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Hey, thanks a lot! I have no idea how you came across this post so long after it was posted, haha. Yeah, I didn't verbalize it with the exception of saying from the start that I'm a playboy (when she originally asked). I always smile unapologetically when I confirm it, and girls accept it cause maybe they kinda knew it beforehand? Things have gotten a little dicey when we get/got really passionate towards each other. She (and other girls) have generally been kinda okay with me being a player in …
/r/seduction07/09/12 04:49 AM
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I agree, here's an upvote for you good lady. Caring for women's feelings is the first step to seduction, and it's how the normal guys get the hot girls -- by being themselves -- the people they've always been. I'm a hot guy, and I have a lot of normal looking friends, and even though I just go to the bar and wait for girls to approach me (100% lay success rate if I decide to sleep with them), my normal friends have to get to know the girls better in order to sleep with them. I can't imagine what…
/r/seduction08/08/12 01:52 AM
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How do you get over jealousy?
/r/seduction03/08/12 02:18 AM
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Wow man, they trashed you hard there. It makes sense though, everyone arguing about things being fair or unfair. Honestly, I don't think relationships and marriage are natural things -- they're man (and woman)-made. It would be nice to have one person satisfy all of my desires, but I doubt that's possible; it'll probably come down to making a sacrifice... but I wouldn't want passive aggressiveness to sneak into the relationship because I feel like I've sacrificed something for another person, an…
/r/seduction03/08/12 02:18 AM
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Yeah, probably -- I wanted to hear from people who have experience seeing a number of people (or at least have some sort of abundance mentality).
/r/seduction03/08/12 02:04 AM
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Yeah as usual :P Thanks!
/r/seduction09/01/12 11:05 PM
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Haha, to dance with friends and to get pulled away from strangers who dance with and make out with them by said friends. :P I went to Muse yesterday and the day before yesterday, and though I made out with a couple girls, their friends pulled them home. I couldn't isolate in either case to talk to the girls, cause they didn't want to get separated from their friends. What do you think?
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:36 PM
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SNLs! How/where do you meet girls who are down for this? Most girls I meet are with a friend etc. I guess I need to build more attraction? Isolating to another room or area seems really tough, since Hub ends up being my main stomping ground I think. The only SNLs I've had, the girl was alone already. But yeah I guess dates closer to my place. I feel bad making anyone (guys or girls) travel far to hang out.
/r/seduction07/01/12 01:20 AM
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Haha, I like it. My dates usually start around 7 and get close to ending around 11 because of the last train... if she asks about catching the last train, what's a good answer? If it were up to me, I'd just say, "Catch the first train tomorrow." After that, if there's LMR (and I know she's into me but not sure if she's DTF), should I just keep encouraging her to come to my place and grab her in typical Japanese fashion? :P
/r/seduction06/01/12 11:58 PM
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:o That's genius. Yeah, though girls do know what's up when they go back to a guy's place, they kind of don't openly admit it to themselves. What time did your girls typically get on the train to go to your place? I'm thinking a potential limiting factor is the last train -- they'll want to catch the last train home.
/r/seduction06/01/12 11:15 PM
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Man Tofu, logistics feel like a huge limiting factor for me over here. I live 45 mins away from central Tokyo, and lots of the girls I meet don't seem to be from my area (maybe farther south or west of Tokyo, whereas I'm north.. I believe). For some girls, it would take 1.5 hours to get to my place. If we met up halfway, it'd still be a 45 minute train ride back to my place. Love hotels are too damn expensive... Any ideas? I've escalated in private room izakaya and karaoke, but lots of girls pro…
/r/seduction06/01/12 10:58 PM
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Oh, not talking about you, was talking about the dude whose post got deleted. :)
/r/seduction02/12/11 04:45 AM
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I'm personally against calling girls bitches after getting rejected... What makes her a bitch? But I'm glad to hear that you're good with what happened, OP!
/r/seduction01/12/11 06:38 AM
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"hey. what's your name?" or to be a little sillier, "hey, what's your name?" "HB" (nodding as though you're saying "oh, cool," then turning your head to face forward again. not actually saying anything) Odds are, she'll ask you what your name is. If she doesn't, then say her name, and talk about anything. It should be pretty easy overall, since you already share the bond of being in the same class.
/r/seduction28/11/11 03:24 PM
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:) Good to hear! Congratulations. Ah, to be young. :P
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:41 PM
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Touch her. Touch her shoulder, pat her hip, hand on her lower back while you're walking, push her, pull her, etc.
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:48 PM
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I think it'll work out great. :) Let's put it this way... she goes on a 1 on 1 date with you, which means she's into you -- and she has a great time. She goes on a second 1 on 1 date with you, means she wants more and is still into you. Just that action in and of itself is enough to keep escalating!
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:16 PM
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Be the fun guy. One of my favorite moments at a bar was talking to this girl and seeing her cell phone, which had a case with Tetris blocks on it. I commented on it excitedly and grabbed my friend and started doing a little kick-line while singing the Tetris song loudly (A-Type, if you must know). Other dudes and the girls joined in, and that got the attention of everyone else nearby. A (drunk) girl came up and said, "You're fun!"
/r/seduction26/11/11 01:13 PM
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Escalate kino. Playful push pull and kiss -- I mean, why not?
/r/seduction26/11/11 01:09 PM
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Write up some FRs, I think it'd help to have more of your perspective as you sarge. What things do you say? Etc. You've gone out that much for that long, so I would expect something by now... also, maybe tell us about yourself. :)
/r/seduction26/11/11 01:02 PM
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Who the hell is Ed? But seriously, I wish I could help you. Good luck with it.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:57 PM
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I feel like I say this on every thread, so sorry if you've seen this before. When I sit down, I make sure I sit next to my date. If, for whatever reason, she's farther away, I say "hey, come here," and make her bring her chair over during a moment when things are going well (like when she's laughing). Sitting next to a girl can get my hand on her leg, or on her back/opposite shoulder, or at least around the chair. When I say something (important, with stress, a joke... basically anything besides…
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:53 PM
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I GOT GIRLS I GOT MONEY I GOT 1 PROBLEM BUT A
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:38 PM
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What's wrong with kissing on the second date? What's wrong with kissing on the first date? I think it's a matter of how much comfort building you do during the date, and how attracted she is to you (both of these based a lot on kino and having a really good time on the date). I think you may have somewhat of a misconception about talking to girls in bars. Sure, that happens, but that doesn't mean that everyone in a bar is there to have a one night stand. You might be surprised at some of the peo…
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:34 PM
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Relevant to Eros_eris She won't care, pretend it didn't happen. You're in your head so much about this; just do what you want to do. Keep up the kino, and it'll happen. Try not to wait til the end of the night when you say goodbye, cause then there's more pressure to kiss the girl or make a move. By the way, a conveniently relevant post: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/mppgr/dont_wait_for_the_awkward_goodbye_kiss_at_the_end/
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:18 PM
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I didn't say just say "ok, next time!". You can tell her "Did you forget our date today?" then tell her she can set up the next date and time. This way, you're still calling her out. I'd probably have said "That's kinda messed up, we had a date at 7:00." and see what she says. If she's deeply apologetic, then next time probably won't be a flake, but if she's not, then I'd be ready for that text I sent to be the last text with her. Really, after something like that, I'd be done with her. Is she w…
/r/seduction26/11/11 07:52 AM
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I read one of them, it was fun. I'd like to see one where it's focused a lot on the direct tactics outlined in The Game and whatnot -- I think some people get a misconception of the seduction community because of some of the bro-ness that (they think) surrounds it. People might hear about negs and such, then often overcalibrate, thinking they need to be assholes to get girls. Lots of dudes think being confident and getting girls comes down to being an asshole. Just like the running title of r/se…
/r/seduction26/11/11 07:40 AM
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She probably wants to bang. Like killusmaximus said, sit next to her (if she sits across from you, tell her to scoot over and sit next to her). Kino. If she's focused on you for the night instead of dancing with a bunch of random dudes and she's kinda drunk, don't wait too long to say "Hey, let's go back to my place for some drinks." Preferable to do this on a high note. Even better is if the high note is earlier, and you get her to commit to going to your place. For example... Yeah, there's thi…
/r/seduction26/11/11 07:33 AM
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I don't think you have to worry about doing anything differently. She knows she's older than you, etc. She's into you, so what insecurities do you need to hide at this point? Edit: ...other than your self-perceived lower value? :)
/r/seduction26/11/11 07:20 AM
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Tofu's post is pretty much it. I think a big part of it is to let the guy you're winging go to work. In my (limited but fantastic) experience, this often involves getting out of the way and taking any of the girls' friends out of the way. If you turn around to chime in, it can disrupt the conversation your friend is having with the target. If the set is hooked, you probably don't have to DHV your friend to the target... I think DHVing your friend might mainly be to get the set hooked. My favorit…
/r/seduction26/11/11 07:06 AM
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Agreed. Sounds like you're lashing out. Not saying you don't have a reason to be peeved, but I wonder if you'd say this to a guy who flaked on you twice? If so, then that's just your personality, and it's all good. If not, then maybe you're dealing with frustration by taking it out on the girl.
/r/seduction26/11/11 06:54 AM
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Ah cool. Sorry, I was referring mostly to the prospect of sex and ASD :P I should've clarified!
/r/seduction25/11/11 04:38 AM
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Haha yeah, reading through that, I checked your name a couple times. Reading that last paragraph cleared things up for me. :P
/r/seduction25/11/11 04:00 AM
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Congratulations on getting this far! Sounds like she's into you. Is it her first time too? But yeah, sounds like she wanted to, and it was ASD. It's like abstractpickupartist said. How do you feel about it all, anyway?
/r/seduction25/11/11 03:49 AM
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Hm, in what way is it petty or needy? I see it as an ultimatum. It's kinda like another sedditor taught me out here in Japan... be ready to walk away at any time. Like, really ready. If there is something you just don't tolerate, stick with it. I mean, the sedditor told me that in the context of opening sets, but the idea is the same for relationships too. I won't tolerate a girl cheating on me or going after / making out with other dudes. I won't tolerate a girl using her cell phone extensively…
/r/seduction24/11/11 02:08 PM
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I once had a professor who looked at girls boobs with no tact whatsoever. Only 30 people showed up to his lectures (out of hundreds of students). In a case like that, I might have said something like "Hi. Look, he's looking at her boobs." Some people always have something witty to say. Sometimes you need to start a conversation before you have any material to work with. If you have nothing to start with, say hi and move on from there. Maybe something will come up, maybe not. Either is better tha…
/r/seduction24/11/11 01:41 PM
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It never occurred to me that it was humorous until now, but I watched "What Women Want" with a girl once. I wonder if that's what she wanted? It shouldn't matter what movie it is, but personally, I'd stay away from things like Black Swan.
/r/seduction24/11/11 01:38 PM
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Yeah... was there conversation? I mean this isn't a club... she's an office mate, and it doesn't sound like you guys were crazy drunk. Maybe she was too terrified to move or react, and with everyone sitting down at the table, maybe there wasn't anywhere for her to escape. I think we need more details here, and I can only hope it's not as creepy as it sounds. To be honest, I opened this thread because the thread title was a bit different from the norm. Just wondering (and no offense), is English …
/r/seduction24/11/11 01:34 PM
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I've never been a dancing monkey before, but I imagine kino escalation would work to your advantage. Keep on kinoing with the what's his face's kino ladder.
/r/seduction18/11/11 07:30 PM
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Sounds like you feel that showing a girl you care involves giving her undeserved attention. What has the girl done for you? Some of this advice/perspective may seem assholish to you, but you don't need to show a girl you care beyond simple actions. Asking a girl out is good. Explaining that you're asking her out because you like her is bad. Obviously, if you say "we should hang out on Friday," that means you're interested. Before, on, and after the date, there's no reason to tell her how you fee…
/r/seduction13/11/11 08:11 AM
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In what way are you a nice guy?
/r/seduction13/11/11 02:16 AM
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I mean if the girl is at your place already, then you should have it made I think (barring LMR). If she tries to sit on the lazy boy, tell her she's not allowed to sit there. You can situate yourself on your bed in a nonthreatening manner first, if you want to... Or pretend to be sexy on the bed for a second to get a laugh and ease the tension; well, the bad tension, if there is any. :)
/r/seduction13/11/11 02:15 AM
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Get girls to come to your hotel room with you guys as a group to drink, play Smash Bros., whatever. Especially as a girl, that shouldn't be too hard? You can get a lot of numbers really easily at a con too to set up later meetings at that same con. Once in your room, if he's sitting next to a girl and everyone's sufficiently drunk, you can say, "I think you should kiss him." I'm not sure if this works... I've never hooked up with anyone at a con, but I'm guessing this could be a possibility. Bes…
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:37 AM
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By and large, I agree with Frogma. I mean, if you want to only have sex with someone 'special,' then go for it. I started typing up some thoughts on girls who have sex a lot versus ones that don't (in terms of girlfriend material), but decided not to bother with all of that. Basically though, I think you can have sex with a lot of people, and still have a great, fulfilling, fantastic relationship with one special person in the end. Fucking a lot of girls doesn't make your relationships any more …
/r/seduction25/10/11 10:35 AM
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Haha, I enjoyed reading your corollaries. Rather than respond to some of them in detail here, I'll just edit what I've written earlier.
/r/seduction21/10/11 09:16 PM
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Hah yeah. Not sure if you got the little reference, but there's a quote in the game where they're like... "Don't pursue Lu Bu!" I wish I could find a video of it for you... but if you start searching in Google and type in "Don't pursue," the first result seems to be "Lu Bu," haha.
/r/seduction21/10/11 03:00 PM
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Funny that that was the game... my friend and I have an inside joke where we say a girl is "Lu Bu" if, for some reason, she's off (or shouldn't be on) the market. For example: "Hey, what about that new girl, Emily?" "Nah, she's Lu Bu." "Word." As you could guess, this stems from the quote... "Don't pursue Lu Bu."
/r/seduction21/10/11 02:47 PM
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Which video game was it?
/r/seduction21/10/11 12:24 PM
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Logistics are important. Since I started going on dates here in Japan, I've noticed a few things... For first dates, at least: Multi-part dates: Most dates should have multiple parts to them. Window shopping here, dinner/drinks there, and end at a quiet bar, for instance. This is advantageous for a number of reasons. It shows you have the ability to carry out a plan, have an idea of what you want, and have a variety of interests. It adds variety to the date, and can bail you out of stuffy situat…
/r/seduction21/10/11 08:22 AM
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There's probably more to it than this, but yeah, I like girls, I like fucking, and I want to fuck a lot of girls. A girlfriend would be cool, but I'm not actively looking for one by fucking as many girls as I can. It'd be nice for the novelty to wear off soon, so I have one less variable to worry about when looking for a girlfriend.
/r/seduction21/10/11 08:02 AM
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I'm sure your girl friends are great and care for you etc., but I personally disagree with this advice... Unless you want things to stay the way they are, that is. Basically, I'd say she has the control right now. It's not a matter of having comtrol over her, but having control over yourself and your own situation/well-being.
/r/seduction13/10/11 01:50 PM
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Sorry bout the delay. What ended up happening? I don't know about today and tomorrow etc etc but if you want something, then take it (obviously not against her physically pushing you away). Don't worry about mixed signals. If she's emotionally involved, this could be a turn on, even. It's not the same since I'm a dude, but if I was into a girl and she said "You need to grow up, don't call me until you do" then the next day says "Come over. Now." You bet your ass I'd be over there to (healthily a…
/r/seduction09/10/11 01:42 PM
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I think if you have sex with her, that will help your chances. I don't know her, so I couldn't give a more detailed opinion. I wouldn't try to logic through getting her to dump her boyfriend or anything, though. Bringing him up might make her feel guilty, depending on what side of the fence she's on that day/moment, which could hurt your chances. She's already done stuff with you. If she likes you more than she likes him (having sex with her evokes strong emotions), then great. If I had to prod …
/r/seduction09/10/11 01:29 PM
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tldr
/r/seduction09/10/11 09:28 AM
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You've really never kissed anyone before this? Damn, really happy for you, great work!
/r/seduction07/10/11 08:28 AM
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You know the situation better than I do but if it were me I'd just say "Hey come over tomorrow" and chill, then escalate. One thing I read that I think is gold is saying "Do you want me to get a condom?". I like it cause she wants to be safe, so she should say yes. If she says no, she sounds unsafe. If she doesn't want to have sex, she'll make it clear. Alternately, "do you want me to fuck you?". While making out and such. Or if you get her worked up with oral a little and stop, LIGHTLY but firm…
/r/seduction07/10/11 07:06 AM
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I think frogma's right. If you're sick of the drama and deliberation BS, fuck her, and things will resolve themselves much faster. Personally, I have a low tolerance for drama and things like this, since I grew up with plenty of it. Fucking is a part of (almost any) healthy relationship IMO. It also will likely get her to like you more. That's what you want, right? You can still feel deeply for her and care about her -- that's actually part of the reason why you should fuck her. It's not a matte…
/r/seduction07/10/11 05:34 AM
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It really just comes down to your morals first. What do you want? For her to be your girlfriend? Okay, so she won't do that. Then what do you want? You can f-close her I'm sure... so it's not really a matter of that. I wouldn't worry about what others think of your morals -- what matters is you're honest with yourself. If you want a FWB relationship with her even if she has a boyfriend, it's best to admit that to yourself, otherwise it'll just turn into a complication you'll have to deal with fu…
/r/seduction07/10/11 04:13 AM
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How/why are you friends with them? Just wondering how you fit in with them. After watching Blueprint: Decoded, I started to think more about how I fit in with my friends. A lot of times, I'm riding their coattails and seeking approval from them instead of just thinking of myself as an equal. If your friends can help you, that'd be good. Once you start talking to a girl and get her turned away from the main conversation, hopefully your dudes won't say/do things that will bring her back to the mai…
/r/seduction05/10/11 03:49 AM
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Word. If you wear something distinct, it might be easier to pick you out of the crowd -- not sure if you look super generic in a big crowd or what.
/r/seduction04/10/11 04:56 AM
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Looks don't matter that much, IMO. I'd totally ignore that factor, unless you're like 300 lbs. Every time I go out with buddies over here in Japan, I would otherwise face similar problems, since I can't speak Japanese. Most girls are in 2-sets, so that works out if two of us go in. Open two girls as two guys, and that should handle itself. Also, it's important (in my opinion) to call your target so you don't get AMOGged by your own friends. Since I can hardly speak Japanese, the girls can easily…
/r/seduction04/10/11 04:51 AM
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np, good luck The comics I saw who killed it probably got a lot of people to come talk to them. Not sure though, since I never talked to them... but one dude in particular had a chill style and was self-deprecating about it by saying "Thanks for coming out everyone, I really appreciate it. If you wanna come tell me how much this show sucked, please do, I'll be at the bar after the show," and he reiterated that one or two times throughout the show, which should make people feel comfortable about …
/r/seduction04/10/11 04:42 AM
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The comedy shows I've been to have just had the comedians always saying "I'll be at the bar after the show if you wanna talk" or whatever.
/r/seduction04/10/11 12:17 AM
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You're a programmer, aren't you? :)
/r/seduction27/09/11 07:46 AM
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Naturally, TokyoSeddit hijacks this thread. Since she's native Japanese, there are a few cultural differences. From my understanding (though I have FAR less experience than Reseddit and Tofu), lots of J-girls don't want to admit to even liking sex, since liking sex may equate to being slutty. Also, kissing in public might be really embarrassing for them. Basically like Reseddit and Tofu said, getting her alone is pretty much it (besides some LMR maybe). Oh, and if you're making out and escalatin…
/r/seduction25/09/11 04:34 PM
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That random girl who asked you to be your escort may have wanted you to take her home?
/r/seduction24/09/11 11:21 PM
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I read "matinee" as "manatee," both of which I approve of. I mean, if you're planning on taking her back to your place, it might be easier at night. "Hey, there's this really cool something back at my place I gotta show you." That talk about her having self respect and whatnot was ASD, though she may or may not have sex outside of a relationship. Then again, if you don't know her relationship history, this could mean nothing. I dated a girl who was 25 and only had one sex partner ever (liar?), h…
/r/seduction24/09/11 12:27 AM
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Congratulations! You've inspired me, I'm going to be fearless today. What's the worst that could happen? :)
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:07 AM
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Sure? What do you have to lose by trying again? I'm not sure what her deal is exactly, and I'm scared to ask: Who's paying for everything? Is she using you? But yeah you obviously want to get physical with this girl, and if she doesn't actually want it, then at least you'll find out and be able to move on (instead of her coming over and sleeping in your bed more in the future, keeping you attached). It's important that she knows your intentions. Just build it up like you did before (massage, kin…
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:03 AM
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Hey dude, glad you're out there opening girls. I think what nobodybelievesyou is trying to say is that all of your approaches and interactions were just common interactions with girls who are working. In other words, everything you did in your FR (besides asking the girl out) is something that regular people would do on an everyday basis, and it's not really offering anything different for the girl. The next step would be to have conversations with girls. Conversing with girls who are working ca…
/r/seduction22/09/11 10:43 PM
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It can be tough to find super easy things to talk about sometimes; and unless you're really immersed into pop culture and socializing, then it can be kinda hard. You can always tease a girl about silly things -- not things that would offend them, of course. If a girl is wearing a futuristic looking watch (...I love watches), you can say something dumb like "Whoa check out that watch" then keep joking about her being some time traveler or something. I know, it's dumb. The other day, I saw a girl …
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:54 AM
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"Let me buy you some coffee sometime." This hurt to read. You're a smart dude, and she enjoys being around you (at least in class). My three issues with that note idea are: You're giving up power/value. "Let me [do something for you]" is asking for her permission for you to do HER a favor. Do you think you're worth less than she is? How into a girl would you be if she came off as always wanting to do favors for you before you started dating? Indeterminate time. When are you going to get coffee? …
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:35 PM
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I wonder if she would've given you her number if you asked while her friend was in the bathroom?
/r/seduction19/09/11 11:42 PM
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Ah yeah Madam's Organ -- I've never actually been inside, but definitely passed by it. They have live music from time to time, yeah? I've been to like... Central whatever and Heaven and Hell a few times.
/r/seduction18/09/11 09:41 PM
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Yeah I mean you know she's willing to go down on you. It's good that you're honest, but she might not come out and say she wants a FWB. She told you she didn't want casual sex the first day she met you, which, like you said, was probably ASD. She's since gotten closer to you, so I wouldn't think of that as a barrier unless it continually comes up again... then again, you'll have to use your judgment on her emotional state. Sounds like you two get along well, though.
/r/seduction17/09/11 07:46 PM
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Oh nice, where in Adam's Morgan? Any favorite places there? I don't live there now (I'm in Japan), but I've been out there a number of times.
/r/seduction17/09/11 07:38 PM
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"Untrue... so far. :) I'm going to straighten this [shit] out with Sam. Dinner Saturday?" (If I were in this situation and didn't care much about the girl (i.e., abundance mentality), this is what I would say. I think it communicates intent, and that there are things that you find unacceptable; that you don't take shit from your friends. If I did meet the girl, I wouldn't go off on making Sam out to be a bad guy, since that would look pretty beta... bashing a guy to try to join this asian HB's s…
/r/seduction17/09/11 07:25 PM
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Awesome! If you talk about the World Cup with someone else soon (or run into those girls again), say that you guys should get together and watch the next qualifying match or whatever sometime.
/r/seduction16/09/11 08:30 PM
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I disagree. Not with the fact that you find it amusing, obviously. I don't think this is an exercise in frame control at all. I think you've lost your frame pretty badly. Someone holding their frame isn't concerned about revenge, and aren't affected by things like this. Why do you need to teach her a lesson? If that behavior is really unacceptable to you, then you can tell her that. If it's unacceptable to the point where you're not interested in her anymore, then great, just move on.
/r/seduction16/09/11 08:11 PM
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Yeah, why do you feel the need to do this? Before I was interested in this whole community, I kinda used to think "Man, that girl's a bitch" from time to time if things didn't go my way. Over time (and after hanging out with some cool dudes), I realized that this isn't the right mentality. The guys who are the best with women don't do this. It hurts to get flaked on by a girl who you're invested in, but you've gotta admit, this would be a pretty asshole thing to do. In my experience, passive agg…
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:50 PM
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It's all good, just saying. Glad that's not what you meant, but if you do think they're lesser value on some level, then I'm thinking it would be best to try to work that out. I'm personally trying to go through this sort of change lately. It sucks a LOT to 'lose' to someone who I think of as having lesser value, and since I may have already assumed they have lesser value, I totally discount any positive things they have going for them. A fun and innocent example is a friend I have; his logic is…
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:43 PM
19

I would be a little careful about judging people based on whether or not they went to college. You'd be even more pissed if a person with only a GED amoged you and took your girl.
/r/seduction16/09/11 01:10 PM
1

Keep'em coming, glad you're making good on your day game goal. :)
/r/seduction16/09/11 10:54 AM
1

I'm clapping for you. I've read some of your other FRs and it sounds like a lot of stuff came together for you on this FR. Through the gay guy, you can still get to HB8, so I'm looking forward to that happening. I lol'd at DING DING DING
/r/seduction15/09/11 02:32 AM
3

Can I ask how old everyone is, roughly? Just that there's a big difference between being 14 and being 18. Assume she likes you. Walk out of English class with M and put your hand on her shoulder and say "Hey, come here." (You can then remove your hand from her shoulder) Take her to the side of the hallway. Then say "We should hang out sometime." Take out your phone and get her number. It's probably a good idea to get used to speaking as casually as what I just typed above. I promise you she'll g…
/r/seduction15/09/11 02:22 AM
1

Your best friends wouldn't understand if you're into this girl? Go for it.
/r/seduction15/09/11 01:29 AM
2

I'd say find more girls. You may have gotten friendzoned. If she asks you to hang sometime, definitely do it to get in with her group. I wouldn't bother chasing her during a group meeting, just have a good time. If you get her isolated, then maybe you can kino and whatnot. I mean ultimately (if you don't get her), she can DHV you to her friends. When asking a girl on a date, I don't think it's a good idea to call it a date. Call it chilling or getting some food or whatever.
/r/seduction15/09/11 01:18 AM
1

I'd like to hear what Tofu says, but in my limited experience here in Japan, none of the (few) girls I've been with have expected anything beyond friendship just yet. Part of it may be that I sometimes explain the difference between American and Japanese dating customs are if it comes up. Certainly not the best seduction tactic, but I think it's a good idea that they know.
/r/seduction14/09/11 08:02 PM
1

I'd like to hear what Tofu says, but in my limited experience here in Japan, none of the (few) girls I've been with have expected anything beyond friendship just yet. Part of it may be that I sometimes explain the difference between American and Japanese dating customs are if it comes up. Certainly not the best seduction tactic, but I think it's a good idea that they know.
/r/seduction14/09/11 07:52 PM
5

What are you doing to peacock? I'm thinking feather boa. Whose palm should you read?
/r/seduction14/09/11 06:45 PM
2

Nice FR -- yeah, it sounded like the whole date was full of shit tests. Sounds like she's trying to get you to qualify yourself at every turn.
/r/seduction14/09/11 06:30 PM
2

Go after others. This sounds like a complete pain in the ass, to be honest. Sorry for your situation. Wish I had some good advice here... it sounds like those social situations are kinda lose-lose for you. If you chase after her while you're there, it's pretty beta. If you make out with her and the guy catches wind of it, he might try harder to get her (which she might give in to). You can't really complain about this to her either cause I doubt she'll use logic to adjust her actions in those so…
/r/seduction13/09/11 07:32 PM
3

I've never been in your shoes, so I can't say one way or the other... But dude, you're REALLY skinny. I don't know much about health and nutrition, but I'm not sure 125 lbs at 6'1'' is healthy. I know you expected to hear this from someone on this post, but I would recommend putting on some weight just for the sake of being healthy. Skinny game and inner game are important, but I think health game is #1. :)
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:32 AM
1

Hahahah, happy birthday cracked me up, that sounds like a lot of fun. I'm going to try it, and will hopefully let you know how it goes. :) Really happy for you though, glad you got to get out there!
/r/seduction08/09/11 01:05 AM
1

Again, another victory by way of Tofu's advice. Thanks for helping him out. :)
/r/seduction05/09/11 07:59 PM
2

It's neat that you were able to analyze what's going on after the fact. That means you're conscious while you're interacting with her, I imagine. You're sharing books (I hope she offered to split the refund for her book with you), so you inevitably have to do homework together, right? You're both on campus? If so, ask her over to do homework sometime. Try to escalate kino from there.
/r/seduction03/09/11 04:54 PM
1

This is also something I want to work on, but open the guys for the hell of it. Don't even look at the girl, and open the guy. It's easier to talk to guys cold (I'd say). After you learn their names and chat a bit, you now have people in that location who know you... which helps in a number of ways, from what I've seen. This is something I've seen in action a lot lately (social proofing), and it's pretty damn huge. As in, a girl I was trying to sarge totally chased my friend (another Sedditor) a…
/r/seduction03/09/11 10:13 AM
6

If you're a regular at a certain bar and know people there, then going there could work to your advantage. If you're not THE MAN at whatever bar or place, then I would probably avoid it for Friday/Saturday night crowds (you'll have to compete with other dudes). I think a quieter place would probably be best, so you can actually talk. Hug her when you see her. Sometimes the girl gets occupied with her purse or whatever when she sees you, so it might not be easy to hug... so just say "Hey. Where's…
/r/seduction03/09/11 10:05 AM
1

This. I don't think your follow-up text will accomplish anything except to DLV. You could try her again in like a week or something; maybe ask her out in a text... that way she doesn't have to go through any awkwardness of texting back and forth to explain why she didn't originally text you back (though it's only been a day so far, so she still might reply anyway).
/r/seduction01/09/11 02:47 AM
2

Great work dude, keep it up! I wish we could see how you look during all of this, so we get a better picture of what's going on. I think you made a big step with all of this... keep at it! Lots of good advice in this thread. :)
/r/seduction27/08/11 12:01 AM
1

I think coffee would be a good first step. It's casual enough. Movies, on the other hand, I would say no to... I think the only time I'd go to the movies with a girl at this point would be if it's at her or my place... or after we've been dating for a bit. Maybe plan a string of places you can go on your date. Check out this place (antique shop, whatever), go to dinner, go for a walk down the whatever.
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:59 PM
2

FRs are only for cold approaches? I'm happy to see any FR that helps bring insight into the workings of PU. :)
/r/seduction26/08/11 02:00 AM
1

Thanks -- I'm probably in my head too much, but I keep thinking "this is going to be lame, I'll give off a disinterested vibe," but that's probably just some excuse for myself, yeah?
/r/seduction25/08/11 12:29 AM
1

Looking at some of the list reminded me of how mediocre/bad some of my inner (and other) game is. Just wondering, how do you become self-motivated? I saw the Tyler Durden video you linked, but that seemed more about overall persistence and the end goal. Overall, my motivation is pretty decent, but I'm thinking more about the immediate moment. For example, I see a girl I might want to open on, but then I think something like "eh, she's waiting for her friends so it'd be a waste of time to talk to…
/r/seduction25/08/11 12:21 AM
1

Over time, I started to think certain romantic things were cheesy. "I'm too old/mature for that." Have you seen romance movies or romantic comedies lately? Maybe emulating them too much is going overboard, but a little bit gets their panties wet, I'd say. :) Plus, they'll have a story to remember (and tell their friends), which should continue to build attraction well after the deed is done. But yes, it's cheesy. :)
/r/seduction24/08/11 11:52 PM
1

Pro. If the attraction is there (which it must have been if she went to the beach with you), then I think this is awesome. :P
/r/seduction24/08/11 11:49 PM
2

This sounds really good. I think you may run the risk of being friendzoned, but that's probably a necessary risk. Of course, everyone will tell you "don't shit where you eat." I've never dated anyone in the workplace, but lately, I've had a bit of an eye-opener... once I started becoming more social and started sarging regularly, I've become more attuned to the abundance mentality. When we sarge, we let some gorgeous girls get away, but you know what? There'll be more. Unless one absolutely blow…
/r/seduction24/08/11 11:45 PM
1

Maybe you can do a light poke at her for not knowing her own phone number, though I'd be a little careful with it. Some people just can't take a joke. :P
/r/seduction24/08/11 11:36 PM
5

The Bolero of Fire is a great song to escalate to.
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:51 PM
6

lol i'm in japan suckersssssss ...........and i shuda sold all my stock before coming here. :(
/r/seduction23/08/11 03:25 PM
1

Damn, wish I could've seen it. What the hell was I even DOING that day? I'm realizing more and more how my schedule with work is totally not conducive to sarging during regular sarging hours.
/r/seduction23/08/11 03:05 PM
31

If you live in the US, this may not be the most timely analogy.
/r/seduction23/08/11 02:42 PM
1

Easy on the vocab. Grade your language to your audiences. IMO, the (socially) smartest people are the ones who don't have to flaunt what they have. They impress others with their overall knowledge, experience, and abilities... but only when those things become public knowledge through natural conversation. If you use lots of big words, it will alienate you and other people. People will try to upgrade their language to match yours, and some people just aren't able to do so (not that they're not s…
/r/seduction23/08/11 12:41 AM
1

i lol'd
/r/seduction22/08/11 07:03 AM
1

Sounds like she was qualifying herself or it would've been LMR depending on what the kino and whatnot was at the time. I'd have disregarded that, cause if a girl's into you to the amount that that girl sounded like she was, it wouldn't have mattered. :) If anyone is concerned about being naked in front of someone else, it's women. All of them.
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:56 AM
3

These are AWESOME. I just wish I could use them in the near future.
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:31 AM
1

Come back to Tokyo
/r/seduction20/08/11 09:11 PM
2

I lol'd at the agree and amplify, nice job!
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:19 AM
2

Bags and bags of pussy sounds gross. :(
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:09 AM
3

Next time you talk to her in person, stop whatever conversation you're having and slap her on the hip with your hand and say "Hey, let's get dinner on Saturday" and smile. I mean if this is the only girl you're into, you may as well just go for it and move on if it doesn't work out... but if you're going after her, do it like a boss. Don't try to reason a relationship or date out of her. Also know that she's at a pretty key age, so that's significant in more ways than one. Well, my two cents. Do…
/r/seduction19/08/11 06:05 AM
7

wear chloroform cologne Good luck on your date, I think a hug is fair.
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:11 AM
3

"Excuse me, do you speak English?" ...then I try to find something to make fun of them about. I mean really, I just hate women.
/r/seduction18/08/11 11:22 PM
4

That's a lot of weekends. Time to pick up WoW.
/r/seduction18/08/11 11:02 PM
1

What an absurd concept.
/r/seduction18/08/11 09:25 AM
2

Sorry things didn't work out for you dude. Go for it next time -- there's no reason not to. I'll tell my inner game the same. In the meantime, stop reminding me of Craigslist with posts like this. :)
/r/seduction17/08/11 11:24 PM
2

Wow, thanks for linking that FR. Loved it.
/r/seduction17/08/11 11:21 PM
1

Hah, I told you I wasn't interested in going after her. I mean HB5 in Shibuya with tons of awesome HBs everywhere? But a redditor who frequents a place that I do out in Shibuya? Whether it's a man, woman, or Mister Kebab -- it couldn't hurt to kampai a biiru. Besides, 300 men? You know, they made a movie called 300, and all of those men died. The movie depicted a more graphic death than the reality that was behind it: STDs. :( But all joking aside, it never hurts to have another friend in the ci…
/r/seduction17/08/11 10:39 PM
1

Hah like what? There are tons of girls in Shibuya, no need to chase after an HB5; but a redditor who frequents a place I do in Shibuya? Awesome, couldn't hurt to chat.
/r/seduction17/08/11 10:35 PM
1

Maybe we have. Hey, send me a message (or have her send me a message). We can get coffee sometime and chat. Does she speak English? No, not trying to run game on her. :)
/r/seduction17/08/11 10:01 PM
3

If only girls extended the same courtesy. Then again, no point in asking for the number if you're not going to call it. Ok no more bitterness. :P
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:42 PM
1

She could be crazy (or super needy or whatever), or she could just be summer-lonely...
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:23 AM
5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr5aq63Z6gk lololol "...I just fucked somebody... you still wanna do it?"
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:19 AM
5

Unfriend them on Facebook. They'll get the hint. I don't really know, since you've already dropped hints. If it were me though, I'd have ejected with the girl, which would solve both problems. With my friends around, I'd say out loud (humorously yet passive-aggressively), "Hey HBStalker, this place got loud and stupid all of a sudden. Let's get outta here." I'd then peace out with the girl. I mean, she's there to see you, but even if she wasn't, she might come along anyway. Everyone might think …
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:08 AM
3

He's lying. You can thank Seddit by paying your monetary dues. Send them here: AbsurdConcept Tiny Ass One Room Apartment Tokyo, Japan You may be concerned that they won't arrive at the correct address, but Seddit hasn't steered you wrong yet, has it?
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:01 AM
1

Isabella Valentine - Jackpot lol
/r/seduction17/08/11 12:06 AM
3

Don't be afraid to go after what you want and do what you want. High school is a very closed environment, and you're living with your parents (probably). Once you get to college, you're on your own, and the exploration begins. There are (likely) far more people in college than in high school, so meet lots of people. Talk to strangers, talk to other dorm mates. Setting up dates is easier at college, since you leave so close to each other (walking distance, even). Just do it, because fuck everythi…
/r/seduction17/08/11 12:04 AM
2

:P Just promise me you'll make me jealous with your future exploits.
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:56 PM
1

I don't know much about seduction, but really, the best way to get a girl who friendzoned you is to move on. I wouldn't flaunt it, but if she asks what you're up to on Thursday, say you have a date (assuming you do). She might ask a lot about the girl you're going on a date with, but my guess is that it's not best to go into much detail. "Oh, someone I met at this place." and change the subject. Thoughts, more experienced sedditors? Sucks though, doesn't it? Now that I think about it, I haven't …
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:55 PM
2

Dude I'm dying. "Hang on, let me say bye to my friends." "Okay, cool. Hey, we should totally get coffee sometime." T_T
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:49 PM
1

Holy shit. I just got an influx of testosterone after reading this.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:17 PM
3

Just wondering, how old is she (and how old are you)? Also, I don't usually do this, but here's a hilarious typo: I DON"T want to be her girlfriend, but I think she does.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:12 PM
2

This. Reseddit forwarded this headphone-take-off motion to me (probably from TofuTofu), and it works, from what I've tried. Everyone in Japan (say what you will about sarging in Japan) wears headphones, so you get used to it. If you repeat your opener once or twice, it's okay. Don't falter. The first set I opened on over here wore headphones, and she was a fucking babe and wore the most intimidating clothing... she was on her way to meet her boyfriend, but fuck it. We had a good chat and parted …
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:07 PM
1

I don't know where her deal is, but I'm looking forward to her telling you next time over pillow talk. Update us, yeah? I wish I could meet this girl, just to see what kind of girl said something like this, haha.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:01 PM
2

...and here I thought it was something like... "Oh, we just cuddled." I'm actually kinda surprised you got to her place without making out or whatever, but I guess if she was in need of some drugs, maybe that's all she cared about. I don't know, I don't know anything about drugs.
/r/seduction15/08/11 03:13 AM
2

Haha, sorry, I don't have much to offer in terms of advice besides some theory and what-ifs (since I suck and don't have HB10 experience). I mean, she can definitely just avoid you, right? If you get with her friend, you'll end up in the same social circle at some point, I imagine (if you aren't already). Oh, and if HB10friend is hotter...
/r/seduction14/08/11 07:32 PM
1

This makes me want to build more social proof at venues now. Fun read. :) Good work with that HB8.5, I hope things turn out well (for her situation too).
/r/seduction14/08/11 07:23 PM
2

I wonder what would happen if you got with her friend?
/r/seduction14/08/11 07:10 PM
1

I think it's a good idea to support people who write field reports. Reddit (and Seddit) is a community where people respond to posts and links. Wouldn't be much of a community without comments and feedback. Seddit in particular is about learning about seduction, so comments can help the FR author, as well as the others reading the FR. Having said that, bad advice is worse than no advice, and I've seen some pretty bad advice here and there. Fortunately, it's pretty easy to tell who gives good adv…
/r/seduction14/08/11 04:32 AM
2

I'm really happy for you! Glad you had a great night. :) Just wondering, how old is she? Also, I don't think you really need to break contact... sounds like she likes you a good amount, so you can keep winding up her anticipation throughout the week via text, right (I may take my own advice here in a few minutes)? I said "OH NOOOOO" out loud when you said your phone was flustered due to her beauty. Then again, I don't know her, so who knows. I mean it was nice wit on your part, and getting her t…
/r/seduction14/08/11 03:15 AM
1

Was just reading through some of your FRs, and I have a couple things... *PPP (Physical Push Pull), which is in this FR, I'm having a hard time picturing... would you mind giving an example, like stage directions? [I push her] "So the other day I was pooping." etc? *For this FR's shit test, what if you said you open on girls in English because you like bilingual girls... then go on to say that being bilingual lets you express your emotions in a greater number of ways. I believe the English vocab…
/r/seduction13/08/11 11:29 PM
1

Ah sorry, I've been using that term loosely to mean "bump/distract another guy out of the set," which would technically be "B/DAGOOTS" which I misspelled as "AMOG." :) I also think that I have an unintentional typo in that sentence you quoted as well ("our" instead of "hour"), so I'll go back and fix that.
/r/seduction13/08/11 11:04 PM
1

I think it's when they use strings to groom your eyebrows. Yeah, use threading next time. :D
/r/seduction13/08/11 10:56 PM
2

I enjoyed the FR, since you sound like a nice guy. Lately, from watching others (and the reactions of girls as I try it more often too), establishing a playful mood and getting girls to laugh can easily be done by taking something they say and blowing it out of proportion, then running with that idea. All in good fun, you know. :)
/r/seduction13/08/11 10:55 PM
1

That sounds like a success story to me. Good job! The opening is the very initial interaction: "Hello" and maybe the next minute after that. Keep at it, and don't be discouraged if only 1 out of 5 (or whatever ratio) people give you more than a hello. There's no tried and true formula to get with EVERY stranger that you meet (or don't meet) on the street. People are people, and they have lives, histories, and opinions too. Keep at it! I will too. :)
/r/seduction13/08/11 10:53 PM
2

We head home. I eventually get near my home station, and I see a banging girl wearing some... black and leopard print type clothing or something. She came back from the club or something... but she looks pretty well awake. I stand near her while waiting for the train, and mostly turn my back to her... but make it a point to let her see that I'm there. I'm wearing headphones and rocking out to Rage Against the Machine's "Killing in the Name Of," which makes anyone feel fearless by the end of it. …
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:01 AM
2

One night, it ends up just being reseddit and I. We're in the standing bar, and reseddit waves for a girl peeking in the window to come in. She comes in and they immediately start chatting. She's pretty damn cute. They get along great, so I pretend to not pay attention and mostly turn my back to them. Eventually, I say I'm hungry and peace out to try some solo game. I come across a 2 set that's waiting for some comedy show to end so they can stalk the comedians for their autographs. I get some l…
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:00 AM
2

Maybe not, Mr. O'Wily, but we can send Megaman in after it.
/r/seduction11/08/11 01:33 AM
1

I think you're right. I number closed a girl who was really into me tonight, and through texts she kept suggesting that everyone should hang out again, instead of just the two of us. ASD though kino and everything else was fantastic. She's 19, sigh. Maybe I'll try to 2 on 2 the date, and worry more about day 3.
/r/seduction11/08/11 12:46 AM
1

Randomly flipped through some of The Game in a bookstore. Ironically, I sarged a girl working there not long afterwards (weeks later I think). She was pretty fucking hot and her sex life with her bf was lacking. One text from her that I loved was something like "Don't forget to pull my hair and call me dirty names!" in anticipation of our first fuck. :) Our first meeting was like: "Hi." "Hi, can I help you find something?" "...maybe. I'm looking for something interesting." Then she gave me a blu…
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:21 PM
1

Yeah, maybe once I can pick out which ones are above 22 years old. A couple days ago I opened on this woman on a train, and I thought she was 33 or so. She was 27. Oh well. :P Oh that was ASD? That's good news... yeah, maybe it'd be different if I had her completely alone instead of her friend just being out of the room for a few minutes.
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:06 PM
1

(or with Black/Korean fever)
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:01 PM
1

Awesome idea. I'll do that.
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:00 PM
1

The famous one was the one who took your seat. She had a string thing around her forehead. I... I think I just got suggested her as a friend on Facebook by SoftShirt.
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:59 PM
1

Whoa, so not Shibuya... where to, then? Mini FR here: I went on a date with an 18 year old that I met a couple weeks ago. I was going to work, and was walking between the train station and where I work... and I see this girl walking near me, she totally looks at me 2-3 times, so I talk to her. Since I'm pretty early for work, we sit down and have a few donuts. She took a few pictures of me, I took a few of her, and we exchanged info. Two weeks later (not due to flaking, she's been very good abou…
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:45 PM
1

Pro, I took the okonomiyaki line, butchered it (to match my level of Japanese), and sent it. Appreciate the advice!
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:30 PM
1

Yeah, he's great. Mad props to him. I'm here for 1-3 years, just another eikaiwa. Using horribly broken Japanese, I can hold simple conversations, but abstract ideas are beyond me.. And, of course, understanding wtf they're saying.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:41 PM
1

Appreciate the advice, by the way. I went on a date today or some equally strange bullshit (with someone else I met some time ago), so maybe I'll write about that when I get home. Fucking 18 year olds man. She and her friend are asleep now, and the three of us are in a karaoke booth. This is dumb. More on it later.
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:36 PM
1

Got it, thanks! I'll just reply with a specific day and see if she bites?
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:32 PM
1

Yes, this. What is it?
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:16 PM
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