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I don't have any moral issues with fucking a girl with a vague relationship status. But, I also prefer my life to be drama-free. She sounds like problem. If you think you can cut it dry and clean, go for it. If you think it's just gonna cause future headache, walk away.
/r/seduction18/06/20 11:21 PM
1

What's wrong with learning? It's a pathetic move not seek out knowledge to better to your skill.
/r/seduction15/06/20 10:02 AM
1

It's good to do your own things and not always be available. It's not fine to be an asshole about it. Treat others how you want to be treated. Don't treat other as objects of pleasures. Be respectful.
/r/seduction15/06/20 09:55 AM
3

She says I either text like an asshole and too infrequent or too frequently like I’m already her bf or something This is it! Dating is supposed to be fun. You know you have upper hand and acted like that in front of her too many times. She decided she had enough and used whatever self-respects left and back away from you. Smart on her part, why hang out with someone that doesn't respect you enough to have a normal texting conversation? Unavailability does make you more attractive, but you did to…
/r/seduction15/06/20 07:27 AM
3

yeah, that's terrible when you catch feelings. But, there's not much you can do. You tell her how you feel straight up and she tells you I am not interested in you. Then, move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction03/06/20 09:42 PM
8

As someone is often in your position, I totally understand how you feel. And, I am sure most guys have experienced this. Is there no longer a shot at getting her interested again? But, this is why you won't get her back. If your actions and mindsets are based on a longer shot somewhere in the future with this girl, very likely she won't be interested in you now or in the future. Things are pretty fucking ironic. So, accept that she's not interested in you. Do whatever you gotta do to get over he…
/r/seduction03/06/20 09:41 PM
5

ask yourself, why would you want to be in a relationship with someone you barely know? Relationship is a 2-way street.
/r/seduction03/05/20 08:45 AM
3

There's no right answer here. Dating apps can be good tools to meet more girls but it's quite complex to get the process right (I'm still finding my footings after years). The economy is completely skewed, girls have significantly more values than guys. So, most of the time, you will end up dating down. Girls will make you jump through hoops to date them, mostly because they can afford to do that. My answer is: go for it but be prepared mentally. If you get rejected or ghosted or cat-fished, hav…
/r/seduction09/03/20 10:54 PM
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yup, I don't see any benefits either.
/r/seduction30/12/19 09:49 AM
12

Its a toxic behavior on your part. I know because I used to do that. When you say you wont like it, what is she going to do? Says, "it doesnt matter if you dont like it, hes my friend and I am gonna hang out with my friend regardless"? She didnt have much of a choice. Its a toxic behavior because you presume that she is going to cheat on you with her friend. She should have your complete trust until she breaks it. But you dont trust her. It wasnt cool for her to say one thing and do another. But…
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:43 AM
15

move on
/r/seduction12/09/19 11:45 PM
2

Oral - Go down on her (very important): This is the easiest way to give woman orgasm. Slow it down, tease her, don't gun for the clit right away. Play around. Read this book, "She Comes First". It describes in details the anatomy of the woman's parts and gives many many many tips and techniques on how to lead her to the finished line. Combining your tongue with your fingers gives a very intense experience. Penetration: It can be hard for girls to achieve orgasm via penetration. It's possible, bu…
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:26 PM
2

It's possible, but I prefer not to. When I go to the gym, I try to focus on my sets/reps and goals. I don't try to pick up girls there. But if opportunities strike, I'd go for it.
/r/seduction10/09/19 08:46 PM
2

fuck her?
/r/seduction10/09/19 06:43 PM
5

Don't. It's usually not worth it. Stay away from drama.
/r/seduction10/09/19 06:04 PM
7

The only concern is you guys might not be in the same place in life. She just graduated HS and starts going college. You have gone through that stuffs and more. So you guys might not work in the long-run. But morally, nothing wrong with it.
/r/seduction26/08/19 10:20 PM
2

Love this idea!
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:02 PM
1

Yeah, I usually frame suggestions so that the answer is a Yes/No. "How about we meet at XYZ for some drinks at 7:30pm on Thursday?" Responses typically fell into Interested (Yes): "Yeah that sounds fun!" Interested but want to change the logistics (Yes): "How about ABC at 8:00pm on Friday instead?" Not interested, time to move on (No): "Maybe", "I am not free on Thursday" (without suggesting another option), "I am not sure. I will let you know", "Sounds fun, can I bring a friend?".
/r/seduction22/08/19 09:18 PM
1

Sex on the 3rd date.
/r/seduction22/08/19 09:10 PM
1

I think she's just playing hard to get or just not that interested in you. Chinese girls are not that different than Western girls in my experience dating Chinese chicks (which is the majority of my dating experience).
/r/seduction22/08/19 07:52 PM
1

umm, not all Chinese chicks are sexually reserved, actually not even the majority of them. How I know? I dated a fair share of Chinese (FOB and ABC) girls. They are not that reserved. The 3rd date rule still applies.
/r/seduction22/08/19 07:50 PM
2

Her: You are too young for me! Me: I don't think so, but okay, bye! I just refuse to deal with shit tests. It's a toxic behavior and I don't tolerate that shit.
/r/seduction22/08/19 07:46 PM
3

The fuck is going on with the 'cutie'? It gives me the creepy vibes. Back to your question, the maybe is justified because even your suggestion is not certain, "Perhaps". If you have an uncertain suggestion, it makes sense that her answer is uncertain.
/r/seduction22/08/19 07:41 PM
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That's the point. Many applied random techniques without knowing themselves first. The book's focus wasn't about seduction techniques, he even said that in the book. It breaks down the dynamic and the thinking behind dating. It built a foundation where you can build your game on top.
/r/seduction19/08/19 05:43 AM
4

Bitch sounds she's like 8.
/r/seduction05/08/19 08:44 PM
6

Then I don't know. If you look the way you described, guys should be all over you. It could be you are too hot and could be too intimidating for guys to ask you out. But if look is not the reason, then maybe it's the way you talk.
/r/seduction05/08/19 06:42 PM
3

Improve your looks. Guys are very visual and are willing to be tricked by it. Learn how to dress better. Put on better makeup. Take care of your skins, hairs. Get in better shape at the gym (squat a lot -> nicer butts). Push-up bras can be cheatingly effective XD. Personality comes second to looks when it comes to guys. Dirty jokes don't really turn guys on. If anything, they view you as one of their guy friends because that's what guys do. They make dirty jokes.
/r/seduction05/08/19 05:43 PM
2

If you want to be emotionally involved, try to be okay by yourself and make sure you are emotionally healthy. If you just want to fuck, go out pick up a girl or go pay for one.
/r/seduction05/08/19 05:33 PM
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No, something is just worth doing more than others. Sometimes picking up girls is not a priority (it's 6th on my list). So after I did the important things (work, gym, socializing with friends), it can be tiring to pick up girls, especially the bitchy ones.
/r/seduction05/08/19 04:57 PM
3

This is bullshit. I prefer an awesome girl who knows her way in the bedroom than a thousand random one-night-stands.
/r/seduction01/08/19 05:49 PM
6

Reading these texts hurt my brain.
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:03 PM
9

Touching speaks louder than words. I am sure there are wordsmiths out there that could make a woman wet only by his words. For us normal guys, our action and touching deliver messages better than words. Follow the kino ladders (google this). Keep escalating. If there is resistance, take a step back and try again later. The point here is to demonstrate honestly that you want her. The most natural aphrodisiac is someone wanting you.
/r/seduction24/07/19 10:30 PM
4

Moderation is key. Overloading something, even good things like self-improvement, will eventually lead to unhappiness. There is a balance between self-indulgent and self-discipline. Over-indulging yourself leads to unhealthy habits. Over-self-discipline leads to self-resentment.
/r/seduction22/07/19 03:57 AM
1

Yeah ghosting is a huge problem in the dating scene right now. Its just a shitty thing. We just have to accept it and move on. I know its easier said than done, but thats the current meta of the game.
/r/seduction17/07/19 08:35 PM
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Meh, this is an unpopular opinion here, but I don't deal with this kinda bullshit. There are many mentally-mature and emotionally-stable girls out there, who don't feel the need to bombard you with shit-tests. In your case, I just got up and walked away.
/r/seduction17/07/19 08:19 PM
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It's great that you are out there doing approaches. Approaching is a tough skill to master. You can definitely reduce the flake rate and there are techniques/advice on this. Also, try to figure out what went wrong. Replay the tape. What could have gone better? Why did she flake? Was she just being nice when giving you her number? What can you change about your methods? Hiring escorts and approaching women are not mutually exclusive. If you want a quick fuck and have the money, feel free to hire …
/r/seduction17/07/19 08:14 PM
1

If you cant communicate a simple concern without coming off as needy and clingy, then your inner self is indeed needy and clingy. Its funny how some guys think dating's end goal is to get your dick wet. Like, if you are actively fucking then mission accomplished. What if this guy is looking for a stable relationship? If so, suppressing this concern so that he can keep fucking her is nothing short of being toxic and manipulative.
/r/seduction16/07/19 10:40 PM
1

It feels like you are freaking out over nothing. Some girls are either really busy or just bad at initiating texting. If it bothers you, bring it up next hangout. Just tell her what you tell us. Be honest.
/r/seduction16/07/19 09:51 PM
3

Just keep things professional. You don't have to be her friend.
/r/seduction10/07/19 08:28 PM
2

You gotta make the plan to have sex. Girls won't initiate that shit. But this chick is into you. Try to arrange a situation where you are in her bed again.
/r/seduction28/06/19 07:03 AM
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This really works. This is one of the skills I picked up recently. Before hanging out with a girl (coffee date/dinner/etc), put only a little bit of cologne on your neck and wrist. When you go and hug her, she will smell it. I had gotten feedback from two girls that they like the way I smell. Girls pay a lot of attentions to this. Nothing is worse than smelling bad on a date.
/r/seduction19/06/19 01:16 AM
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Lol, welcome to the texting game. This is the norm, and it sucks. Just do other things, homework, chores, hang out with friends, video games, reading. There are a million other things you can do beside obsessing over her texts.
/r/seduction19/06/19 01:13 AM
9

I touch them while making out. No need to come up with any smart lines.
/r/seduction22/05/19 06:38 AM
2

PaintNite is really cool. Arcade bar is fun. Ice skating. Bowling.
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:49 AM
2

This depends on you. But, in general, it's not worth the effort, headache and potential drama. There are so many single girls out there. Why choose the taken ones?
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:47 AM
1

tell the truth
/r/seduction19/05/19 03:10 PM
2

You have good messages, but your capitalization is all over the place. Emphasizing a few points is good. Yelling at the readers is not.
/r/seduction14/05/19 09:31 PM
2

Damn the people IIT thread are shitting on you. They miss your point. The current state of dating involves too much gaming, from both sides. This shows you truly value your time. It shows that your time is better done on something productive rather than wasted on some random chicks with not much interests in you. Well done buddy!
/r/seduction14/05/19 05:24 PM
1

Netflix and chill would be a good move here.
/r/seduction14/05/19 05:55 AM
1

Then text her. Keep the texts going. Set up the date, time, location, logistics. It's your responsibility to lead. Don't wait on her to do stuffs. You are a man, you gotta assume the masculine role. Don't force her into that role. Let her be feminine.
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:04 PM
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You oversimplify a lot of things. Cheating is a complicated emotional process. People cheat when they are unhappy. More specifically, they feel what they sacrifice (sexual freedom) is not worth what they currently have (a stable relationship). High-quality, high-status men have many options. This is the goal you should strive for. It's easier to complain and bitch about "OMG it's so hard to find a woman" than actually improve yourself to be more attractive. You forgot the slut shame factor in ou…
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:49 AM
292

lol at 4. Don't break up fights between strangers EVER. This is a good way to get a black eye for no good reason.
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:37 AM
1

Give us more context: how long have you known this girl? how did you get her number? did you guys have rapports?
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:31 AM
1

well, looks matter to guys a lot more than girls. What you are describing is personality. Give us a sense of how you look. Face, boobs, waist, ass. These things come to play first, way before personality. If guys already determine that you didn't make their look cutoff, your personality won't be considered.
/r/seduction05/05/19 09:23 AM
1

You are on the verge of getting hurt. You have strong feelings for this girls (miss her, heartbroken, can't stand the thought of her messing with other guys). I see two options: (1) talk to her about something more serious or (2) stop seeing her.
/r/seduction04/05/19 12:32 AM
3

You didn't mess up. She is clearly not interested in you. She had no intention to ever go out with you. No girl that is interested in you would respond 3 days later. If she was interested, she'd had made extremely easy for you to go out with her. Forget about her and move on.
/r/seduction03/05/19 08:01 PM
1

It depends on your mentality. Approaching girls in real life is better. But, I have a job and can't really go out everyday. My hobbies (martial arts, weight lifting) are male-dominated. Hitting on the few girls that are there is just asking for drama. Online dating helps increase abundance, my coverage, and my exposure. I view it as a supplement. The keys are: Don't swipe right on every girl. Only on the ones you actually like. (IMPORTANT! Lots of reasons for this.) Be ready to un-match her or w…
/r/seduction03/05/19 12:20 AM
1

Take improv classes.
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:04 AM
12

Or you could talk to her, date, get married. She cheated on you with your best friend. She force you to move out. You still have to pay for the house and alimony that she and your best friend are fucking daily. Equally likely lol :P.
/r/seduction01/05/19 12:26 AM
5

She is upfront and honest with you. She deserves the same from you.
/r/seduction29/04/19 05:52 AM
1

it was a success, I presume.
/r/seduction28/04/19 08:33 PM
2

Saying yes means she is still interested. She is willing to invest more. Go on the date and have fun. The level of interests and investments change all the time. If she is still willing to go on a date, that means she is still interested in you. Give her another shot.
/r/seduction23/04/19 11:03 PM
4

It's the date. Maybe the dates weren't as good as you thought. Women (and us men also) re-evaluate a person via the date experience. If they were bubbly before the date and not after, then the date has changed their perception of you. In these cases, just try to set up a second date. If they don't respond enthusiastically, just save your time and move on.
/r/seduction23/04/19 09:57 PM
5

She might have low esteem or be humble about her appearance. Just let it go and talk about other stuffs.
/r/seduction23/04/19 06:08 PM
11

kiss -> tongue -> full-on makeouts. While making out, hand on boobs over clothes -> hand under clothes -> unhook her bra. Hand on her vagina over clothes -> hands over panties -> hands under panties. If you get this far, she's down to fuck. Just take off her clothes and fuck her.
/r/seduction22/04/19 09:54 AM
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I don't think it's that high. But if that's what you worry about, looks can be improved: getting a good haircut (research and find a good barber) dress well (understand fit and color combinations) have a good physique (work out and eat well) keep your face pimple-free (skin care) It's not your fault to not have a high cheek bone, but the above are solely your responsibilities. It makes a huge difference if you take care of your physical appearance.
/r/seduction18/04/19 10:32 PM
2

Different people, different games I guess. I prefer to be honest. If she makes a funny joke, I will laugh. If I have to suppress my natural urge to laugh and have fun in order to get laid, the lay and the girl are not worth it. I rather jerk off and love myself than get laid and resent myself.
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:13 PM
2

Well, there are a lot of conversation techniques. It's always safe to go with the FORD techniques. F - Family. Are you the only child? What's your brother doing? O - Occupation. What do you do? What does a Dental Hygienist's day look like? R - Recreation. What do you do for fun? How often do you hike? What do you usually do at workout? D - Dreams. If you have unlimited money, what would you do? What's your dream job? Have you thought about becoming a professional runner? From these, you can bran…
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:04 PM
1

If it's funny, laugh.
/r/seduction18/04/19 06:42 PM
1

Don't rely on people changing. Just move on.
/r/seduction17/04/19 08:01 PM
7

yeah because you are dead wrong
/r/seduction12/04/19 03:57 AM
1

For fuck's sake, just walk away. She's clearly not interested in you. She completely ditched out on a date with the "fall asleep" excuse and gave multiple reasons for why you should not going out with her. So many red flags! Walk away.
/r/seduction08/04/19 10:37 PM
1

It's not a bad thing. It also depends how you do it. You gotta gauge her responses. Keep pushing, if she is uncomfortable, back up a bit, then push again. Two steps forward, one step back.
/r/seduction08/04/19 10:17 PM
2

Walk away.
/r/seduction08/04/19 09:23 PM
1

don't read into that. If you want to date her, let her know. Stop the guessing.
/r/seduction29/03/19 11:21 PM
2

That's fine. Just communicate your intentions to her.
/r/seduction27/03/19 09:07 PM
1

She's just not ready. She likes you and wants to know you more. She senses that you just want sex. Stop trying to game her and start being honest with yourself and with her. Do you actually like this girl or do you just want sex? Whatever your answer, tell her that. If you just want sex and the girl wants something more, please leave her alone and not trying even more moves to trick her into sex.
/r/seduction27/03/19 06:24 PM
5

Don't worry about texting. Texting is boring and it's fine. Don't try to be clever or funny over text. Save that stuffs for the real date.
/r/seduction20/03/19 10:55 PM
2

There's no such thing as "I kissed a girl way too early". If anything, this is strongly in your favor. People love to be desired. It's a huge turn-on. Your kisses indicate that you want her. You've shown honest intentions. That's perfectly good!
/r/seduction12/03/19 10:51 PM
1

Okay, you have bigger problem than a girl. You are shitting on yourself. Nothing is wrong with being 24 and not holding hands. You are thinking too negatively. Trust me, you have a lot more values than you think. You gotta convince yourself of that. I suggest that you see a therapist to resolve deeper emotional issues. Until you do this, learning all the techniques or asking any advice on here is useless. You gotta learn to love and respect yourself.
/r/seduction12/03/19 07:26 AM
2

From what I read from your posts, the odds are against you and they are getting worse. Act fast! First of all, your friend revealing that you have a crush on her puts you at an disadvantage. But, you owned up to it by asking her out. That's the correct and strong move. She responded positively. That's good! However, you messed up by not setting up date right away. You kept things open with "great, well catch a dinner and a show". WHEN? WHERE? By not setting up the logistics, you are asking the g…
/r/seduction12/03/19 03:52 AM
3

You cannot build rapport off chatting and texting. Say a few things to establish some common grounds and try to set up a date ASAP. When it's time to ask for the number, says, "Hey, let's exchange contacts. My number is ...". Don't say, "Can I have your numbers?". The first one implies that you are both exchanging something of values instead of you asking for values from her.
/r/seduction12/03/19 01:17 AM
1

Follow the escalation ladder, my friend.
/r/seduction12/03/19 12:57 AM
2

You should bring this up to your girlfriend and how it makes you feel. Don't think of it as, "Should I let her go to Vegas?" Think of it as communicating your boundaries. You have things you are comfortable with and things you are not. Tell her your boundaries and communicate that these boundaries are rock solid. Also, don't buy into this excuse, "Oh I was fucked up on E so I didn't know that he was kissing/touching/entering me". That is a BS excuse.
/r/seduction12/03/19 12:21 AM
3

Massage parlor works too. Protip: use rubmap.
/r/seduction12/03/19 12:12 AM
5

just be more drunk when I meet new people Don't do this. No one likes a drunk. ​
/r/seduction05/03/19 11:23 AM
4

Cute - 7 Really cute - 7.5 Cutie - 7, but you look young. Hot - 8+
/r/seduction28/02/19 01:06 AM
2

Don't blame your parents, hot women, society or anyone else. Blaming does nothing for you except perpetuating the toxic cycle. Luckily for you, there are many ways to better your life just by a google search.
/r/seduction20/02/19 11:45 PM
1

They are just a bunch of immature trolls. I guarantee you those kids are 100% insecure inside and they are trying to feel better by making fun of other people. Pretty common low-status behaviors. Just ignore them. If you feed the trolls, they will continue I really do not know how to react or what to say Don't say anything. If they make fun of you, just completely ignore them. If you want to be mean, shoot them a condescendingly disappointing look, the way their disappointed parents look at them…
/r/seduction20/02/19 07:23 PM
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She's tolerating your initiations because she doesn't want to risk the friendship or just doesn't want to hurt your feelings. If a girl likes you, she will let you know. What to do? (Btw, these are just basic friend-zone advice that I am regurgitating) Take another shot. Tell her, "Hey, I like you. I want to take you out on a romantic date.". If she says anything to the effect, I just want to be friends, tell her "I can't be just friends with you now". You do this because this is the truth. Just…
/r/seduction14/02/19 07:47 PM
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Shit tests responses: “Do you do this to all the girls.” Only to the ones I really like. “You just want to fuck me” Yes, I do want to fuck you. “I dont have sex on the first date.” I do. I can teach you.
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:22 PM
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For the love of god, don’t let her bring a friend. Never let her bring a friend to dates. Tell her no. If she threatens to not come, says "OK".
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:13 PM
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I know how you feel. Date logistics are tiring. These invested efforts easily went to zeros, with ghosting and other things. Frustrating, I know. Dating sucks, bro! From your descriptions, you are more invested in the relationships than the girls. With online dating, it's easy for girls to be less invested in dating as dates are easy to come by for girls, exponentially more for the pretty ones. The trick is to be less or equally invested than the girls. There is a term in poker: loose aggressive…
/r/seduction10/02/19 09:35 AM
7

Walk away, NOW, please! Block her on everything (phone, facebook, twitter, myspace). There is no good outcome. If you hang on, I guarantee, you are going to regret it. Get out, NOW!
/r/seduction21/12/18 05:32 AM
1

If you have the time and want to play games, go head and try again. If I am in your shoes, I'd pursue someone else and leave her on the back burner. If she asks to go out, do it. Otherwise, it was nice knowing each other.
/r/seduction19/12/18 12:45 AM
2

isn’t complimenting appearance a needy thing to do Definitely not. It's not about you are not supposed to care. It's about choosing what to care about. Time is a limited resources, the difficult part is to choose what to give a fuck about. Life can be pretty rough if you give a fuck about the wrong things. https://markmanson.net/not-giving-a-fuck ​
/r/seduction11/12/18 06:31 AM
5

First, I think this is probably the wrong sub to ask this question. Getting a girl and maintaining a relationship are two very different subjects. Advice-wise, it's not really about "being on your game" anymore. You are in a relationship now. You gotta figure out what her mental state is. From what I read, it doesn't sound good (she hates her job/wants to move). Sit down, talk to her, listen to her, and figure out a solution that works for both of you. Empathetic communication is the key here. Y…
/r/seduction11/12/18 02:30 AM
2

"Game" works. In the sense that it will definitely help getting you laid if you invest enough time into it. But, sex/relationships come from ingenuity often feel empty and demoralizing at the end (at least for me). Having sex with someone you don't have a deep connection with is kinda boring, might as well fuck a hooker, probably cheaper in the long run. A deep connection requires honesty, complete and brutal honesty.
/r/seduction01/03/18 11:43 AM
3

For me, this book wasn't about getting laid more or 'banging every girl out there', but it is about how to actually find meaningful relationships. If the former thing is what you seek, then Models is the wrong book to read. Been a while since I read his book but there's one thing he said I always remember, 'Do not go out with girls that you are not 'fuck yeah' about. not even for practice.' Many dates later, some I went against this advice. I can definitely vouch for this solid advice. "Investin…
/r/seduction01/03/18 11:32 AM
1

It's good that you talked to her. This takes a lot. But so far, it sounds like nothing special. She didn't invest anything. It seems like a normal daily interaction for her. My tip is "don't keep it casual". Fuck "casual". Let her know that you are interested in her. Be straight up and honest. After class, come up to her and ask, "Hey [her name], how's it going? Would you like to get a cup of coffee?"
/r/seduction01/03/18 04:28 AM
1

Lol, I am a grad student, 30 years old. I walked by cute undergrad girls (18-22) everyday. I generally don't even bother talking to them. The age gap is too huge. There wouldn't any meaningful relationships going to come out of this.
/r/seduction24/02/18 10:06 AM
2

Time, dude! Time will heal everything. In the meantime, to take your mind off the pain, try the following things: Surround yourself with friends. Call people up to hang out. Invest your time and energy into a hobby (sports, or whatever). Try to change your surrounding, get rid of things that remind you of her. Cry if it hurts too much. Nothing is wrong with crying. Anyone who judges you for crying is a pussy. Explore new things that you haven't done before. Things you shouldn't do Don't do rebou…
/r/seduction20/02/18 03:41 AM
10

This kind of saying is really generic and not exactly helpful. What does it mean to put someone on pedestal? Some people might take it as, "you should treat her coldly and she will sleep with you". Dating is no where as simple as this. As a general rule, you shouldn't put anyone on a pedestal. If someone is on your pedestal, they better should have a really good reason to be there, "not just because she's pretty or because she's like really cool". If putting someone on a pedestal means you would…
/r/seduction20/02/18 03:29 AM
2

Make friends with everyone (especially the mother hen) and then isolate the target.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:44 AM
1

Working out alone won't pull you chicks. But it helps you improve tremendously overall. More energy, healthier. Give you a higher chance of life success. Girl-wise, it gives you the mental push and helps you in the look department.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:41 AM
4

This is the signal that they are bailing. I had to learn this the hard way too. From this point on, all your attempts will be futile. Learn and move on would be the best move.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:37 AM
1

Mostly big cities, just based on pure statistics. The more people you meet, the more likely you will find people you like.
/r/seduction11/10/15 04:35 AM
1

Work on your confidence. Give yourself choice. Don't settle for the first girl that says yes. Be honest with yourself. Be honest with the girls you date.
/r/seduction11/10/15 04:33 AM
1

"Hey, I want to take you out on a date. When are you free to grab a drink?". Most of the success depends on how you say it, rather what you say, confidently, look her in the eye when you say this, stand up right. project your voice. how do I react in the event she says no? It depends on how she says no. "Ohhh, I don't want to ruin our friendship". "Oh, but I don't really see you that way". If she says these things, you are deep in the friendzone. Really not many things you can say will change he…
/r/seduction10/10/15 07:30 AM
1

Is it societies fault? Nope. I've read PUA stuff for years but made no actions Well there you go. You can read a million book, but no action means you are just wasting time and money. Been diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder See a psychiatrist. Fix this first. I realize I could 'fake it' and just sleep with a girl, but I am unable to do that Don't do this. These are short-term pleasures. Aim for the long-term benefits. Just improve one thing about yourself at a time. Find ways to love yoursel…
/r/seduction09/10/15 09:50 AM
11

It's good that you are seeking help here. So, I'm becoming a recluse who plays video games and owns cats for the rest of my life. Well that is your problem. Instead of trying harder to improve yourself, you gave up and dig deeper holes for yourself. To be brutally honest, giving up makes you a lot more unattractive than being chubby. Get out of your room, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Join a gym. Learn to dress better. Learn to put on better makeup. Learn to speak better. Do amazing things wi…
/r/seduction09/10/15 09:43 AM
3

Ask her out. If she said no, then just be friend. If she said yes, then nice.
/r/seduction09/10/15 09:37 AM
0

Be upfront with her. But it seems like you guys still want different things. Resolve the conflicts first before doing anything else.
/r/seduction09/10/15 09:34 AM
0

Girls you are not interested in: end it, don't waste her or your time. Don't string her along. Girl you are interested in: ask her out, take her on a romantic date. If she said no or if the date fails, move on.
/r/seduction09/10/15 09:31 AM
1

Okay this makes a bit more sense now. 12% is a bit low for number close.
/r/seduction06/10/15 06:39 AM
1

Don't do lunch date.
/r/seduction06/10/15 06:26 AM
3

is a week after the first date too long for a second date? Definitely not. You have been busy with your school. You are doing the right thing. Chasing girl is not your top priority. the date did have a more friendly vibe rather than a romantic one This is bad. In your second date, make sure you establish romantic interests. Make it obvious, not subtle, but don't come off as desperate. Get physical. Start light touching her early (hugging, touch her arm lightly when you talk). Your goal should be…
/r/seduction05/10/15 09:52 PM
4

12% number close, 1.7% f close. This is a rough game.
/r/seduction05/10/15 09:43 PM
2

You have to ask your goals and your end goals. If one of your goals is to sleep with as many girls as you can, that's fine. But that's a bad end-goal.
/r/seduction29/09/15 07:55 PM
1

Often we censor too much of our thoughts. We think if we vocalize them, people will see us as weird and don't like us. My advice is: don't censor yourself. Talk about the first thing that comes to your head, no matter how ridiculous it is. Don't trust me? Start talking to your friend, your family without censoring yourself. Then, when you approach the girl, just start talking about whatever that comes to your head (how you wake up this morning, how she kinda looks like a chicken). Usually it's m…
/r/seduction24/09/15 11:37 PM
1

I am currently in the same spot. Gotta start over again, but not really from scratch. You learn the mistakes (she broke up with you for reason, if you do everything right, unlikely that she left you), don't make them again next time.
/r/seduction24/09/15 11:31 PM
27

There's a technique on conversation. People call it different things: cold-read or make statements. It's the same thing. Instead of asking a question about her, make an educated guess instead. For example: Instead of: do you go to school here? You looks like a student here. Instead of: what's your major? You look like a poli-sci major. Instead of: what year are you in? You look like a senior, you carry this senior-ish vibe, lazy but knowledgeable. This will illicit 3 responds: It's wrong. She is…
/r/seduction24/09/15 11:27 PM
14

my sorry life (FYI I'm fat, dark ugly short and a virgun) These are bigger problems than the girl. You should focus your sadness and frustration on improving these things first. It sounds like you have low-esteem and unhappy with yourself. If you don't like yourself, it's hard for others to like you. Here are few thoughts: Sign up for a gym ASAP. (fix the fat problem) Dark + short (nothing you can do here, but accept it). It's not that bad really. Dress better (save up around $200, read around t…
/r/seduction24/09/15 11:12 PM
1

Tell her you are a bit busy. Slowly reduce the frequency of responses. If the problem still occurs, talk to her.
/r/seduction20/07/12 09:49 AM
5

Sounds like rape.
/r/seduction18/07/12 04:41 AM
2

Unless you know how to keep them.
/r/seduction31/07/11 02:05 PM
18

Her relationship is her responsibility, not yours.
/r/seduction29/07/11 07:02 AM
3

You, sir, live in an ideal world. "Too drunk to drive her home". "It is ok, I can take a cab." GG!
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:39 PM
3

Mosby!
/r/seduction25/05/11 11:36 PM
9

the point in pick-up (which is to become a better man, and therefore have an easier time getting laid) What about getting laid to become a better man. Quoting from Lonely Island. Having sex could make a nice man out' the meanest
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:54 PM
3

Not sure why you made such a big distinction getting laid and becoming better man. They are not mutually exclusive. They are actually extremely intertwined. People like Mystery and Style, who clearly understand the concepts behinds the routines, still use routines. If they work, why not? For me, I went into this to become more social, and also getting laid. That is why I said both.
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:50 PM
5

Both?
/r/seduction18/05/11 06:39 PM
19

This line is a little hard to pull off.
/r/seduction13/05/11 10:47 PM
8

Forever Alone.
/r/seduction12/05/11 09:41 PM
4

Chloroform!
/r/seduction14/04/11 09:27 PM
34

How can these guys walk with the size of their balls?
/r/seduction13/04/11 07:01 AM
5

I agree with you. Unlike xtakeout, I am actually a violent person. But, it is about using violence in the right manner. If you resort to violent just because someone insulted you, you just look weak and unintelligent.
/r/seduction03/04/11 09:21 PM
5

Nothing too impressive.
/r/seduction21/03/11 08:14 AM
1

Good shit!
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:29 AM
3

This guy mistakes PUA for the male cast of the Jersey Shore.
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:12 AM
1

No need to lie. Tell her the truth and how you feel about the show. Another interesting you can do is turning it back on her, by asking "Have you? What do you think about the show?", then change to different threads. This way, you don't have to answer the question, and able to gauge her emotions and calibrate your response if she insists on the answer.
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:03 AM
3

As opposed to 15 seconds?
/r/seduction16/03/11 07:18 PM
10

Was it the fact that you are nice guy that your girl dumped you, or were you too clingy on her and not show enough control in the situation?
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:08 PM
29

I don't know why people are so hung up on the topics between nice guys vs. douchebags. The important factors are how interesting you are, how well you present yourself, and how seductive you are. It has nothing to do with whether you are a douche or a nice guy.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:06 PM
12

That sounds like a DHV, shows that you are a confident creeper. Chicks dig that.
/r/seduction03/03/11 01:51 AM
15

I love every response. His mental set is that "I have done nothing wrong. Fuck people who judge me. Who the fuck are they, or you, to judge me?" Fucking perfect.
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:31 PM
1

From your description, there wasn't much flirting going on from either side. Not to burst your bubbles, it is her job to be friendly to people. But in general, when in doubt, assume that the girl is into you. Go for it. The worst thing you can get is a rejection, which helps you calibrating your game anyway. So there is not much harm done, except a small damage to your pride if you get shot down.
/r/seduction10/02/11 11:17 PM
7

I am free after 5. Found some good links, want to come over?
/r/seduction10/02/11 10:42 PM
0

This goes against everything I know about game.
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:26 PM
1

The sidebar contains some good information on where you can start on getting materials or training yourself to be able to converse with a lady.
/r/seduction03/02/11 12:19 AM
1

That is a very good pickup in my book. There were attractions. He established himself as confident and fun. It is very innovative. The girls were hooked, especially the one he borrows the phone from. The guy clearly got game.
/r/seduction28/01/11 08:06 PM
5

Totally agree. You must have a super personality to pull that off.
/r/seduction27/01/11 11:06 PM
3

This is a trade-off. Many men had this exact same problems. That is why they refer being a relationship/marriage, as being in a cage or tamed. I wouldn't suggest that you break up with your girl, just because of sex. What you can do to get more sex out of her at this point is through positive reinforcement. This is risky though. If the girl is smart, or you screw up, she might get upset. So, use it with precaution. The trick is to award her with something nice right after sex. Massaging, listeni…
/r/seduction25/01/11 12:51 AM
1

Talk about something else. "So, what makes you interesting?"
/r/seduction23/01/11 06:45 AM
1

Without attraction, a number means nothing, but some awkward conversation later. If you already had attraction with the girl, just ask. Therefore this move is classified as beta!
/r/seduction23/01/11 06:44 AM
7

It is like working out. It is painful, but it is good for you.
/r/seduction20/01/11 08:22 AM
2

It is like that because you think you are boring them. Think that it will give them a chance to know you.
/r/seduction20/01/11 01:29 AM
5

True. However, there is a adage: "It is only awkward if you make it awkward". Imagine this scenario, a person comes to you on the bus, extends their hands and says, "I am X. How are you?" to you. Would you think that person is awkward? On the contrary, common perception is that person is very confident to approach and be friendly to a total stranger. You are not a loser when soloing. Famous PUAs solo from time to time. I actually prefer soloing. Force me to be more social. Visualization. Politic…
/r/seduction19/01/11 01:59 AM
3

For hanging out and bsing, you can go with your AFC friend. But when it comes to sarging, soloing or going with an experienced wingman/wingwoman is best. In too many occasions, I opened a set and kept it alive. While I was getting a beer, they blew the set. They also want to change bars a lot, which is a pain because all the social proof I built is gone.
/r/seduction19/01/11 01:10 AM
1

Couldn't agree more. This extends much further than just the bar environment. I talked to staffs at the climbing gym: "Hey Mike, what sup man?", "Abby! How is it going?". There are many events that they have helped me out. Last night, I forgot my shoes, and Abby rented me the shoes without charging me.
/r/seduction18/01/11 11:56 PM
1

"Hi, my name is Aazadi"
/r/seduction18/01/11 11:52 PM
7

What happens in the other 20%?
/r/seduction18/01/11 09:43 PM
1

I don't follow your first point o.O?
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:21 PM
1

I would take the phone and tell the person on the other line: "Hey, Sara/Jessica/etc. is busy now and she will call you back." If she gives you shit about it, that means she doesn't really respect you. Move on! Don't fuking tolerate this shit.
/r/seduction15/01/11 02:00 AM
-4

This depends on the girl and how you pull it off. In my experience, it is not worth it. I spent 20 minutes on a poem and get 2-second smile from from her. I can get that with just a funny joke or tickling.
/r/seduction15/01/11 01:55 AM
16

Keep the relationship interesting. Take your girl to dance club once in a while. Bitches love to dance, regardless whatever they say. It is in their DNA. Try new things with her: new hangout spots, new common friends, new nicknames, and, most importantly, new sex position, missionary-only is not the way to go. Travel with her. Connect with her on a deeper level, both passionate, romantic and sexual. GIVE HER SPACE! This is very important. Try this. Don't see her for 3 days. Says you are very bus…
/r/seduction14/01/11 10:33 PM
1

Why is moral even an issue here? Hitting on girls is just another form of complimenting. She is an responsible adult. She can make her own decision and be responsible for it.
/r/seduction10/01/11 09:27 PM
15

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/r/seduction09/01/11 10:37 AM
5

It is all fair game dude.
/r/seduction09/01/11 09:40 AM
2

You motion her over? Like waving? How is that forcing her to open?
/r/seduction21/12/10 01:42 AM
3

I agree with almost everything you said. I somehow doubt this: "this will lead her to being less than satisfied with her sex/romantic life". All of this is just a shit test.
/r/seduction21/12/10 01:36 AM
0

2 years is not that much younger. And stop giving a shit about what other people think.
/r/seduction14/12/10 08:46 AM
2

Do what your instinct guides you. If you think that is crossing the line, don't do it. If you think that it is wrong to mess around with women' feeling, then don't do it. If you think it is ok, then do it. Simple as that. It is America, I assumed. Do whatever the fuk you like. You are old enough to set a guideline for yourself and to not let others define the line for you.
/r/seduction11/12/10 10:12 AM
8

The fundamental principle of FR is skipping this part, because it tends to get very graphic and is no longer pertinent to purpose of the FR. The OP did a great job not to include it in the FR.
/r/seduction09/12/10 07:32 PM
1

Good point dude. I also want to add this. In case the girl calls you out on it, "Your dancing is... questionable." Raise your hand and says "Talk to the hand!". Works magically!
/r/seduction06/12/10 07:21 AM
4

This seems forced. The target will mostly like be like "Uhhhh, what?".
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:13 AM
0

Umm, this is strange for sure dude. My advice: be selfish. If you like hanging out with her or like this unpredictable nature, sure hang out more with her. If you don't want to deal with this bs, forget this.
/r/seduction21/11/10 10:08 AM
1

This is not true. A HB8 from OKCupid is coming to my town to go climbing with me this Sunday.
/r/seduction18/11/10 05:49 AM
2

A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell.
/r/seduction16/11/10 02:32 AM
23

"OMG girlfriend, you are barking up the wrong tree"
/r/seduction14/11/10 10:06 PM
1

Yup, totally agree. You need to maintain your cool frame, but also at the same time let her know that she is wasting your time.
/r/seduction04/11/10 09:32 PM
1

Easy dude! Easy.
/r/seduction04/11/10 05:55 PM
2

What if she was really busy that day? Shit does happen. It would be harsh to write her off the book just because of this.
/r/seduction04/11/10 05:51 PM
1

First off, maybe she really had something to do that day. You shouldn't have used the unhappy face though. It makes you comes off desperate. Just play it off cool, but let her know that this kinda action is not acceptable: "It is ok, but you should have told me this earlier. You clearly didn't respect my time." That is verbatim of what I said the girl when she flaked on me right before our meet. She kept saying sorry and set up the next meet-up the next day. You don't have to react exactly the w…
/r/seduction04/11/10 09:08 AM
1

Never compliment on her physical appearance. But rather her personalities, her lifestyles. The more details the compliments the better. For me, I gave out max 1 compliment to a girl per interaction. And I made it count and memorable because if the girl you are trying to get is anything close to pretty, she will hear compliment like "You are so pretty" her entire life. Compliment her in the way that stands out, that no one ever compliments her in that way.
/r/seduction03/11/10 07:01 AM
1

Umm, you didn't close her. She closed you. The girl was coming on to you/your friends from the beginning. Now you have to figure out whether she is into you or your friend. The lucky guy will get a lay without effort.
/r/seduction03/11/10 06:55 AM
2

A buddy of me tries the same thing, and gets the same results. He hit it off with the girl very well. She was showing IOIs left and right. He tried the Wygants method. Her friends pulled her out to another party. Now he has to patrol the area in hope to run into girl. To avoid these situation, you need to make sure that she will be there when you return. If there is a chance that she might be bouncing while you are gone. You better get her number before leaving or else this is going to happen.
/r/seduction02/11/10 07:31 PM
1

I'm not a guy to fuck up someone's relationship "Every man for himself" - Barney Stinson In your situation, man up and make a move on her.
/r/seduction27/10/10 10:39 AM
1

I would, but I don't have any other forms of contact.
/r/seduction27/10/10 03:36 AM
1

Much to learn from you :)
/r/seduction27/10/10 01:46 AM
1

Yooo!
/r/seduction21/10/10 09:11 AM
1

how is that a fail?
/r/seduction20/10/10 09:59 AM
7

Her: "I am so fat" Me: "I think 24 hour fitness has a discount on new membership".
/r/seduction11/10/10 08:01 PM
1

Couldn't agree more.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:41 AM
1

"Yeah I know" - Always get a smile.
/r/seduction06/10/10 05:47 PM
1

I saw a lot of FR here that mentioned HB4 and HB5.
/r/seduction29/09/10 01:55 AM
2

Sounds like she is interested in you, but trying to play hard to get. If she is worth it, give it another try. If not, sucks for her.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:50 PM
6

Oyyy, you must have a great follow-up.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:26 PM
2

We should have a HB6+ rule.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:20 PM
3

If David Beckham was there on the stage with that settings, he still has a 2% success rate of picking up that bitch. The fucking tv show was there to ridicule the ideas of pickup. Fuking haters!
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:16 PM
5

I don't know about you guys but those advices have been working out well for me.
/r/seduction16/09/10 07:57 PM
2

I guess inflation affects the PUA world too.
/r/seduction15/09/10 08:03 PM
3

The whole thing could happen in one night. And I forgot, don't text her. In most cases, she will think that you don't have the balls to come up to her in person, so you have to resort to texting. Just ask her out. Be bold and in control. Try to be sexually playful.
/r/seduction27/07/10 05:38 AM
2

WTF? Alcohol is a magical drug which has been responsible for much human procreating for millenia....it's exactly what is often needed to allow the social barriers to come down and allow banging to occur (or provide the 'excuse' for it.) That is weak. If you truly have game, you should be able to seduce her without the help of alcohol. Give me a break. A girl that's been banged once is far more likely to be banged again. Only true if she actually desired the first one.
/r/seduction27/07/10 05:31 AM
2

Don't use the effect of alcohol to your advantage. You may get what you want once. But after that night, you will most likely lose her trust. Becoming a FWB is a hard thing for a girl to do or admit because it automatically classifies her as slutty. So I think it is best to never mention that word in front of her. Try this if you want to push things further: Take her to a date where you guys can be close, so you can escalate. Have alcohol only if she suggested it. Don't try to make her drunk. Br…
/r/seduction27/07/10 02:16 AM
2

Try this: Use your laptop. Have 2+ clothing items on your screen. While she waits for the drink to come, say "Excuse me, would you help me pick out the birthday present for my sister/cousin?". After she picks the item, you can criticize her choice, "Really?" and expand to "Why?". Then talked about her clothing choice.
/r/seduction27/07/10 02:05 AM
4

The bad new is that you are in the friend zone, my friend. The good news is that it is common. There are tons of fixes out there right now. Just google search how to get out of the friend zone. Here is my take: Reason why you are in this situation: you put yourself into the friend zone when you ask her to rollerblading. There is no sexual tension or romantic suggestions in that activity. That is what "friends" do. I would just ask the girl straight up to a night date and clearly send the message…
/r/seduction25/06/10 09:42 AM
1

You are the man. You should initiate. End of discussion.
/r/seduction04/05/10 10:04 AM
-1

MONEY!
/r/seduction23/04/10 06:57 PM
2

Because most of the time they don't think with thier heads. They tend to be more impulsive than men.
/r/seduction21/04/10 05:44 PM
1

She doesn't know that
/r/seduction21/04/10 05:41 PM
1

Good point!
/r/seduction21/04/10 09:25 AM
-5

Lol then why don't u take a knife and runs it across your face? According to your theory, that would make u much sexier right?
/r/seduction21/04/10 09:23 AM
4

Still doesn't justify your move. Just don't do things to others that you don't want them to do to you. Imagine you are with your dream girl, and this dude keeps flirting with her. So, stay out of their ways and let them resolve the issues on their own and wait for the window.
/r/seduction21/04/10 09:22 AM
-2

What is the purpose of u writing this then?
/r/seduction20/04/10 02:29 AM
3

First of all, alpha? I don't think it applied here. I have learned through the course of interacting with girls, most of the time it is not what u say, but mostly how u say it! The best response is probably mixing humors with sexual implication. For example: 1. "Watever. But the lesser the better" 2. "Why wears something when it is going to be took off?" Depends on the situation, serious or playful, but it is good to not give her a direct answer, 3. "Wear whatever u think will turn me on!"
/r/seduction24/02/10 02:10 AM
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