Is it even worth it?

ethical_pa · 2019-07-17T15:54:33+00:00

I went through something similar. The flake rate is extremely high at the beginning. A lot of girls will give you their number and flake/ghost because:

they want to end the interaction; they don't want to say no to your face.
they feel like you "deserve it", because you were polite, sweet, etc. But they aren't that into you.
get caught up in the emotions of the moment, but decide it wasn't a good idea later
have a bf. I know it's weird, but some girls will do that in the moment.
Any other random shit.

People will try to give you a bunch of advice and quick fixes. Honestly, the only way to get through it is to keep going. Once it becomes part of who you are, you will get a lot better at getting girls out. Your interactions will be more solid, more grounded, and more genuine. Girls will feel it.

You could get escorts or just watch porn of course. But you don't need me or anyone else to tell you that the social benefits of developing cold approach skills go far beyond just getting girls.

Here's a tip: go out this week WITHOUT the goal of getting a number. Go out to engage a girl you find attractive and have fun with her and make her laugh. Go with how you feel with the particular girl. If there's strong sexual energy, flirt with her playfully. If there's a playful vibe, joke with her and make her laugh. If she's stylish, go with compliments on her outfit. If she's just a down to earth kinda girl, see if you can connect with her based on interests and trying to get to know her. If she has a bf, then ask her how she met him. Flirt with her anyway ;) Etc

Good luck

pnadlerlaw · 2019-07-17T13:03:05+00:00

That’s like saying: “Fucking JD preferred jobs have a fucking 95% chance of not leading to an actual job offer after interviews. So, what the fuck is the point of even applying? Might as well work at McDonald’s.”

A 5% chance is literally a 1 in 20 chance. If you had cancer and there was a 5% chance of it metastasizing, would you safely remove it from your body? Or, fuck it, not even worth it?

The other thing you can do is, oh idk, maybe not be lazy and put in the effort to actually work on yourself instead of putting in the effort to work the streets and cold approach.

I’m not a fan of the cold approach either. But my solution is not to hire fucking escorts. Jesus. What kind of defeatist thinking is that? Use a warm approach. But you actually have to put in effort behind the scenes so that you can get to a warm approach.

Paltenburg · 2019-07-17T12:53:29+00:00

Obviously a 90%-95% flake-rate is not your goal, so don't you see any way of improvement?

caesarfecit · 2019-07-17T19:27:16+00:00

It's kinda like Dark Souls. You fail over and over again as you slowly start getting gud.

What you're in right now is the pain period. Go read Models again and focus on having a lifestyle that you enjoy and others find attractive.

aepr88 · 2019-07-17T20:14:58+00:00

It's great that you are out there doing approaches. Approaching is a tough skill to master. You can definitely reduce the flake rate and there are techniques/advice on this. Also, try to figure out what went wrong. Replay the tape. What could have gone better? Why did she flake? Was she just being nice when giving you her number? What can you change about your methods?

Hiring escorts and approaching women are not mutually exclusive. If you want a quick fuck and have the money, feel free to hire an escort. I believe paid sex is a healthy thing. But, keep in mind this is cheating and won't help you in the long run. If you want an emotional connection and a potential for a long-term, healthy relationship, then you have to put in the work and do the dating route.

Redditaspropaganda · 2019-07-17T21:57:58+00:00

5% chance of success is pretty good when it costs you nothing to approach...unless you just absolutely have NO free time in a day which I doubt. I mean if you're a chinese factory worker who works 7-7pm jobs then yeah you have an excuse.

judahman8 · 2019-07-18T03:28:08+00:00

Those are day game numbers, night game reigns supreme. It's undoubtedly worth it. To have the skills of seduction itself comes with so many bonus attributes. Paying an escort is of no gain. Gaining pussy by paying for it is a worst experience then jerking off in my opinion. You have to at least do it in a way that not so obvious to your subconscious.

Title	Is it even worth it?
Author	Ash266
Upvotes	18
Comments	36
Date	July 17, 2019 12:13 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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