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| 4 | Should I approach girls I don't like to built my game or should I just approach the ones I like?By approach, I take it you mean cold approach girls; ie girls you don’t know, which is the whole purpose of this sub. So how do you even know if you like them or not? You know nothing about then. Approach girls you find attractive and even some you don’t; you never know. Sometimes after to talking to her you might find something that you find attractive. What I found helped when starting out is approaching other people too, not just girls you’re interested in. Like guys, old people, etc. Just to… | /r/seduction | 30/01/21 06:05 PM |
| 31 | Girl is blowing up my texts after dateIt’s simple: she wants to see more of you. Make it happen or GTFO. She won’t keep chasing forever | /r/seduction | 30/01/21 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Having SEX with 100 women.For sure it’s possible. Easy? No. But unlike what most people are saying it has nothing to do with money. Firstly 5/10 and up aren’t super high standards so that makes it easier. Not judging at all, just listing this as easier. The main thing is time. 8 or 9 women a month is a lot; this would almost have to be a full time job. You have to dedicate a lot of time meeting these women, texting and dating, and then hopefully having sex with them. So you would have to have the experience necessary to … | /r/seduction | 09/12/20 07:49 PM |
| 43 | Eye contact when the other person doesn't break it firstKeeping eye contact is a good exercise, having to do with social or sexual tension, in some cases dominance, etc. But ultimately you’re dealing with the symptom not the root cause. You don’t have to be 100% at peace like a monk or something. But if you are well grounded, secure with yourself and emotionally stable, the eye contact is no big deal. Keeping it is not a source of tension. It’s more of a form of connecting with people. Most of the time, it’s totally friendly. I have no problem follow… | /r/seduction | 12/10/20 01:47 PM |
| 5 | Why do girls joke about me being with other girls?This guy plays | /r/seduction | 11/10/20 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Why do girls joke about me being with other girls?I guess you could do that. I’m not saying it won’t work but it doesn’t sound good to me. She’s acknowledging that you’re a bit of a player, in a cheeky playful way. She’s putting a little pressure on you to see how you’ll react. She’s insinuating, in a softer way: “so you have sex with a bunch of girls and move to the next whenever you want right?” Your replies: “yep! Wanna be my next conquest?” Not good IMO. I mean maybe if she really likes you. But it sounds arrogant. It’s much better to be pl… | /r/seduction | 11/10/20 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do girls joke about me being with other girls?That’s very common. I don’t know why they do this exactly. Likely because you gave off a player vibe and she slept with you fast. I think part of it is her calling that out. It’s not necessarily good or bad. That’s just her way of communicating that. At a deeper level though, I think she wants to know that you are that guy. I mean part of her likes it, or why would she bring it up in a teasing playful way? It’s almost like she admits to you “job well done”. You are good with women. In a sense, s… | /r/seduction | 11/10/20 02:57 PM |
| 6 | How to approach a woman.Bullshit. The guy in the second pic is over weight, fashion looks bad, hair is disheveled, facial hair out of style (full beard, trimmed and taken care of is good), posture is off and he’s not smiling. Body language says reject me. Defensive. Unhappy. Not engaging or positive. These are all things within his control. But hey, I’d hate to have to work on myself. Easier to hold onto the belief that only chads get girls. | /r/seduction | 28/09/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Is there a point of gaming girls you dont even get along with?It's not good or bad; it's about your state of mind and goals. Maybe she thinks you're boring too (or just not what she's looking for in a long term partner) and just wants to smash. It would be a waste of time for you if you invest too much in this without knowing 100% what you want. If you want just sex, act that way. Be clear in purpose and intent and make it happen. If it does great, if it doesn't move on. She will sense it. You can be honest about what you want without being crass and telli… | /r/seduction | 16/09/20 05:11 PM |
| 1 | I thought this was very interesting. Wdy think?It's an interesting take. But the friend zone thing is complex involving a lot of factors, plus individual and situational differences. Basic pickup 101 advice remains true here; if you're intent is sexual, it's better if she knows this early on (indirectly or directly, maybe with a little doubt on her part). If you act like a friend with no sexual intent, it becomes a problem later down the road if you want to initiate anything. I don't think the problem at it's root is women putting men in the… | /r/seduction | 31/08/20 06:09 PM |
| -3 | Jobs/Activities you can do to make yourself more social? Lacking social skills due to sitting infront of the Computer all day, even my ability to talk has deteriorated.I used to sit in front of a computer all day. And instead of complaining about my social skills deteriorating, I went out after work and approached women. No excuses. Covid getting you down? I went out and approached women during covid. Even had a few dates in the park. No excuses. | /r/seduction | 30/06/20 09:35 PM |
| 3 | If you’re still single, you should never cut ties with any woman unless she explicitly says she’s disinterested.Ya I agree. I mean, I can see both sides of it. Never discount a lead from a sales perspective. It makes sense to revisit cold leads once in a while rather than throw them away completely. But don't expect too much... From a game, man-to-woman perspective, I think it's often better to just move on and not look back. If a girl is into you, she'll make it a priority to be available for you. It's very rare that she'll decide she wants to meet up after no real life contact for weeks/months. But it i… | /r/seduction | 30/06/20 09:16 PM |
| 1 | If all you have to offer is sex to a woman you have no chanceNot true. It's not so much that you have to have extra qualities as a person to offer her. I mean that's good, and I'm sure she'll respect that. But that has to be for you, not her. It's more that most guys want sex but don't know how to seduce a woman. A girl will have sex with you based on how she feels around you. Part of seduction is getting her emotions into it, push pull, emotional spikes, negative and positive, some comfort and trust, and she generally needs to feel a sense of freedom and… | /r/seduction | 12/06/20 08:49 PM |
| 1 | NEED HELP WITH LOGISTICS, TAP INIf the weather's nice, set up a park date. If not, your place for board games. Assuming your mom is a wingmam' | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 09:55 PM |
| 10 | The best advise i can give youGotcha. Eat the women. I will try this. Thanks! | /r/seduction | 25/02/20 06:07 PM |
| 4 | My biggest fear of cold approach wasn't rejection, it was about the judgments of everyone else because it made me question my own value system and identity. I've come to a conclusion which ended up solving the main anxiety that I had for approaching.You are genuinely struggling with how approaching women (your needs and wants) might be at odds with ethical and proper social calibration and empathy. It’s normal. But you don’t have enough under your belt. Go out and do it. Hopefully you learn and get good at it. Then you’ll understand that it’s no big fuckin deal. Woman don’t care that much about being approached. They often get approached badly and by creeps, but you’re not one of them. It’s doesn’t bother most liberated woman if a normal gu… | /r/seduction | 20/02/20 09:05 PM |
| 14 | Interesting shit test yesterdayYa I don't think there's anything wrong with it either. 2 consenting adults. I think though it's become more popular to look at it as empowering for older women, and to shame older men for it. That's a problem. | /r/seduction | 19/02/20 05:32 PM |
| 2 | I'm really not impressed by anyones 'game'I've never paid for this kind of thing. I went to an RSD free seminar once. But I do think there is something to be said about game. Most guys are terrible at navigating the social landscape when it comes to sexual tension and flirting. Let alone approaching a random girl outside of his social circle. To be fair, I'm sure there are a lot of scam artists out there, or some guys with poor skills who market themselves as gurus. But I think the reason you feel like you see them contradict themselves… | /r/seduction | 15/02/20 08:23 PM |
| 9 | How to smile at women.This guys moistens | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 07:09 PM |
| 30 | How to smile at women.How do I smile at them without looking like a degenerate? Think of it as a small gift you are giving someone without expecting anything in return. Part of it is accepting that some people will not be ready to receive that gift. If you are a positive person, and feel good about yourself, and have learned to generate positivity from within, without relying on others or external stimuli (which pickup teaches you, if you do it right), then smiling at people in this way is no big deal to you. It cost… | /r/seduction | 07/02/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Approach TragedyYes, I agree with this. It's always good to push yourself and realize that there are so many opportunities that you will miss if you don't take action. But being harsh with yourself and full of self judgment is NEVER good. Let it go. Be kind to yourself. Also, maintain an abundance mindset. There will be countless other opportunities. | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Girl baited me and then rejected meI usually approach super hot girls but this is the first time I've been given a cold shoulder like this. Ok then... good luck | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Girl baited me and then rejected me"Girl baited me and then rejected me" This attitude is part of the problem right there. She was initially interested based on how you looked. But girls need more information than that. After interacting with you, she decided that she wasn't. BEHAVIOR not looks is the main thing women look for in men. You description focuses on what happened before the interaction, like the deal was sealed and that she owed you something. She was just "asking" you to approach. If you focused more on what happened… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 06:08 PM |
| 3 | OUCH! Watch Me Get Rejected By Multiple Women (infield compilation)I would argue that you shouldn't even view these as rejections - She's not interested; it's fine. There are literally millions of girls out there you can connect with. There are millions of girls YOU aren't interested in either. Nothing personal. - She has a BF. Of course she does, good looking girls tend to have BFs. No biggie. - She was rude to you. Maybe she was having a bad day and didn't feel like being approached by some random guy. Totally understandable. Nothing to take personally. - You… | /r/seduction | 06/02/20 05:31 PM |
| 1 | They're just people.I disagree completely. Seduction is not one thing. It can be different things, depending on the people involved, what they are looking for, how they feel in the moment, and countless other factors. Part of seduction involves learning HARD skills, that are sometimes related to sales. As an example, if you have a girl who is horny and wants to fuck, it's not as simple as saying "oh! here i am, let's do this". If you don't understand anything about ASD/LMR plausible deniability, how to lead properl… | /r/seduction | 05/02/20 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Do PUAs exit the game due to aging?Been there many years. I feel ya. I guess I got into an LTR before I knew about game and how to properly vet women. I also was not aware of my own issues. I felt like I didn't deserve a feminine woman, so I always settled for the "cute" or "sporty" ones. Or maybe super intellectual, serious girls. In fact, I fooled myself into thinking that's what I preferred. Now I go for sexy, feminine women. I mean, don't get me wrong, I still like the sporty types. But let's just say that they look more like… | /r/seduction | 30/01/20 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Do PUAs exit the game due to aging?I mean, a lot of them are coupled and look like a pair of potatoes. No male or female polarity. I'm aiming to settle down with some possible quality women around 30. Both our SMVs are declining at the same rate at this point. And a long term companionship is looking plausible. | /r/seduction | 30/01/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Do PUAs exit the game due to aging?but I bet many or your old friends are coupled or single for lack of better alternatives. I looks to me like a lot of them are COUPLED for lack of better alternatives.... ;) | /r/seduction | 30/01/20 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Do PUAs exit the game due to aging?I’m in my 40s and sex with 20 somethings is still fun! But ya, eventually you want something else. More serious. It’s not that the sex is bad or meaningless, it’s just that you might want other things in life. I don’t think you really leave the game. You just play it differently and have different goals. But you know, finding a woman who’s looking to settle can be tricky. For one, a lot are extremely picky! One might even say intolerable... I kinda feel bad for betas who have that as their only … | /r/seduction | 30/01/20 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Can women be seducers?One time, a very pretty girl in a coffee shop did everything but approach me. She didn't actually open me, but was maintaining eye contact smiling at me, standing next to me, essentially screaming "TALK TO ME!". At that time in my life, I was not... very aware. It's just so uncommon, especially for an attractive woman, that it doesn't register. I literally just thought she was being friendly, like a waitress or something. It's not only until later that I realized what was happening. This is very… | /r/seduction | 09/12/19 08:13 PM |
| 3 | How do I solve the anxiety when I see / talk with hot girls?90% of questions here have the same answer: approach more. It’s like “How do I get over ____?”. What they are really asking is “how do I not feel a certain emotion so I can then take action”. It’s the reverse motherfucker. | /r/seduction | 06/12/19 08:27 PM |
| 5 | I'm ashamed and blocking myself when someone is listening close to my seduction attemptI was on a date the other day and this came up: Her: "You remember when you approached me and we were walking together?" (We were having a great chat, connecting and laughing together up until the following happened): Her: "Those people walking close behind us and listening to our conversation. That was awkward..." The point is that it can be uncomfortable for her too. It's natural and ok. You can work though it by working on maintaining composure and being more carefree in life. The more you wo… | /r/seduction | 03/12/19 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Lets have a discussion about something thats been bugging me: Unatractive GirlsGirls have the same guilty feelings when they can't get wet for nice guys. And I mean genuinely nice guys but with no edge. That's how it is... Just be grateful you're a guy | /r/seduction | 30/11/19 07:30 PM |
| 1 | How to overcome the fear of coming off as a creep?I like this as it's quite similar to something I've been thinking about lately. It's like guys want to receive advice on how to make their cold approaches normal. It's not fuckin normal. A big part of what makes a guy attractive to women is his confidence and how he can play by his own rules. He goes after what he wants, breaks the rules but can still be calibrated and display social intelligence and empathy. He just makes it happen. If you don't want to offend anyone, you want to play by the ru… | /r/seduction | 26/11/19 03:55 AM |
| 9 | All women are whoresIt has to be over the top ridiculous like this to get the message across. True, sexually liberated women who love men and love having orgasms with them are free individuals. You could say they are red pilled in a way, and rise above the traditional social norms, and are free to experience life in a modern society. "Princesses" that use their pussy to secure resources ( 3 dates; show me some commitment; I'm not that kind of girl, you just want sex don't you!) are whores. As with everything, there… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/11/19 09:48 PM |
| 1 | I feel the changeI think it's fair to say that the lesson here is that girls will really appreciate you if you finger them well. 👇 | /r/seduction | 12/11/19 08:53 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop being creepy.Just be cool EDIT: JK! when I’m at the club I can approach whoever I want, (I always get turned down) If you ALWAYS get turned down, then you are doing something wrong... It's likely that no one can help you fix this online. You'd have to seek out some kind of coaching or mentor. You likely have some deeply ingrained beliefs and a self concept that won't change over night. At least a coach/mentor can bluntly point out your blind spots and you can start by looking at that to change. Of course, th… | /r/seduction | 05/11/19 09:43 PM |
| 4 | How can I, a 22 year old female get laid without dating apps?1 - Go to online forum about seduction filled with guys looking to practice their skills and get laid. 2 - Post something about wanting to get laid 3 - Filter through all the PMs looking for ones in your area (non-creepiness, exchange pics maybe) 4 - Meet up 5 - Get laid | /r/seduction | 04/11/19 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Instagram Model Reveals How She Feels About “Nice Guys” and “White Knights” on LAHWF.Well she did say that she likes someone who treats her "like crap". She isn't very well spoken though... so to be charitable, she does catch herself and then says that she needs someone who is nice, but can challenge her and not accept everything she says. Which is what most attractive girls want. Not someone who is nice to her and agreeable just because she's good looking. | /r/seduction | 01/11/19 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Why you can't just tell women you like them (and when you can)This is a way better answer than the 2 previous in this thread, even tho they both have a grain of truth. Indirect game isn't about "hiding" your intentions. That's average guy game (no game). Indirect game is about attracting her with your vibe and behavior and attitude rather than directly stating your intentions. You can even make your intentions crystal clear without being direct. Women can read the subtleties in your vibe perfectly well. It can be very powerful because it shows creativity a… | /r/seduction | 22/10/19 09:14 PM |
| 2 | “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness - that is life” - Jean Luc PicardThis is actually the best answer. Be Kirk. Not Picard. | /r/seduction | 18/10/19 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Honest Signals: Why Caring Kills AttractionThe real way to not care is not to just "DGAF, bro". The real way to not care is to have other shit in your life that matters to you. I promise your relationships will be much stronger if you have shit that matters to you besides her. Yes... but also abundance. This doesn't necessarily mean immediately having other women in your life. But having the ability to attract high quality women is key. This is why they say that you have to keep your game tight even (especially?) when in a committed rela… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/10/19 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Nikki Glaser spittin' Red Pill truths on Joe Rogan: "I need an excuse to be bad"Yep. Nothing to see here, just the usual. It's just uncommon to actually hear a woman lay it out like that so honestly. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/10/19 06:46 PM |
| 17 | Nikki Glaser spittin' Red Pill truths on Joe Rogan: "I need an excuse to be bad"I can't stand the sound of her voice, but I think I've heard enough to get it. She's like ALL the girls I've been with who claim to be feminists but aren't actually sexually liberated. Just a mix of ASD, LMR, and you having to "take the blame" for sex, which can be exhausting, not to mention kinda puts you in the danger zone WRT consent in some cases. Women who are sexually liberated and know what they want are so much more fun to be with honestly. EDIT: ASD, plausible deniability, taking the bl… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/10/19 06:40 PM |
| 4 | Let's Talk Pillow TalkI strongly agree with the specifics: don't start talking about your emotional bitch shit; Don't talk about your negatives. Don't talk about your exes. Don't talk about your friends or family. But post sex validation can be a powerful tool for the long game. Attractive girls are constantly getting compliments as thinly veiled bribes for sex. They know it. They're "so pretty" and everything they do is "so interesting!" (thirsty ass chodes). But if you compliment her when sex no longer is on the ta… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/10/19 06:13 PM |
| 2 | How to Imply Escalation for a 3rd DateShe lives with her parents... If it's "awkward AF" for you to bring her home, what makes you think she wouldn't feel the same way at her place? Be a fuckin man and handle it. Take the AF moment yourself moment so she doesn't have to. Or at least it's not as bad for her. But anyway, I think you are stuck with bad logistics. There is no right answer. This is why they say the guy with ok game and good logistics will get laid more often then the guy with good game, but poor logistics. You have a cho… | /r/seduction | 04/10/19 08:45 PM |
| 7 | I met a PUA in real life and his advice was: Approach, Isolate, KissWhen she agrees to the isolation, she basically already agreed to kiss. I can see why this comment would get a lot of flak. I think it's the wrong mindset. It's coming from a frame where 1) It's setting you up for disappointment because you have expectations 2) It's a losing frame for her, because she may feel pressure and/or that you are entitled. She may feel slutty to agree to that if she senses that that's the expectation. Better to look at it from a cooperative frame. Use plausible deniabil… | /r/seduction | 23/09/19 09:42 PM |
| 31 | Maintaining composure (frame) is one of the key attributes of being a man.If it works for you great! But I think approaching women taps into a different primal fear. It's quite common for guys that have literally been to FUCKIN WAR to have AA and not be able to approach girls because they are paralyzed with fear. What do they say again? Women's biggest fear is that a man will kill her. Men's biggest fear is that a woman will humiliate him. I think there's some truth to that. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/09/19 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Didn’t strike when the iron was hot. A lesson on what not to do.Play choking and wrestling... Come on! There was more than enough there. Especially since they already fucked | /r/seduction | 20/09/19 01:25 AM |
| 1 | How to get Laid using Rules 1 and 2Lastly, there is a concern with self preservation, as demonstrated in the Prisoners Dilemma, where if both people choose what's worst for the other person than everybody get's fucked (not in the way we're looking for either). This is where the concern for Rule 2 comes in as part of the social contract of casual sex. If you want to be apart of the causal sex dating group, you need to uphold the social contract of casually fucking. Break the rules and you're out of the group. Just like any other s… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/19 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Women's boundaries are different depending on men's attractivenessYa, that's how I see it too. This guy was not clear in what he wanted, and is not being honest with himself here. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/19 08:10 PM |
| 10 | Women's boundaries are different depending on men's attractivenessBecause you sound butt hurt and called him a Chad. So it sounds like you are comparing yourself to a pretty boy. That's what he meant: You are being feminine, in this case. EDIT: Be honest, if she hadn't given you resistance/a shit test, you would have had sex with her. You wanted to fuck her. You failed her test. Then you attribute that to you "sticking to your morals". You are hamstering. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/19 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Women's boundaries are different depending on men's attractivenessWith him, no remorse of complicate career, she just did it. You don't know that for sure. She may of shit tested him big time. Things escalate and at one point she stops me saying this is a bad idea, that it would complicate both our career and that we should stop. Sounds like she tested you too. If you would have pushed through, there's a good chance you would have banged her. I personally think you made the right decision not to. If your attraction is high enough, her boundaries, limits, rules… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/09/19 07:48 PM |
| 1 | "If you like a girl and want her to date you, go talk to some other girls"If you think the average girl isn't talking to a few guys at once, then you're a moron Bang on. Girls keep their options open in a different way then guys, but they do have them. In fact, if you want to talk about "the right thing to do", I would say it's better to spread your attention around instead of dumping it on one person. So many questions here clearly show the OP is overly invested in one particular person. It's understandable. It takes a while to break out of that habit. But once you d… | /r/seduction | 17/09/19 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Should I ask a girl whether she has a boyfriend?And yes, flirt. She’ll define the boundaries This is exactly it. Too many guys (novices) look at it like, "what should I do/say if ___?". It's not about that. She'll define the boundaries of the game, it's your job to understand those (social intelligence, empathy, experience with women, etc) and play within them. If you want to of course. If you're a man with standards and boundaries of your own, you may decide you don't like the parameters of the game she wants to play and opt out. And of cour… | /r/seduction | 16/09/19 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Should I ask a girl whether she has a boyfriend?It really doesn't matter. But the short answer is no, don't do it. A lot of so called rules in seduction/pickup aren't really about tricks that well help you "score" the girl like she's a video game. They are more about avoiding things that tend to ruin the interaction, make you look socially inept, are cheesy things that lack social intelligence that every guy says, etc. With the BF thing, it really doesn't matter in and of itself; it depends on the context and where you are in the interaction.… | /r/seduction | 16/09/19 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Gaming in college tips?I think that's a valid concern. Now that you've bagged 320 direct approaches, you have a certain confidence. In a smaller setting like a campus, you can go indirect. Chat up girls for the sake of chatting them up and feel the energy. You have no fear of going up to girls and saying you think they look gorgeous or pretty or whatever. Now with indirect, you will have no problem asking them if they want to hang out sometime and getting their number if the energy is good and the interaction goes wel… | /r/seduction | 26/08/19 10:00 PM |
| 1 | The amount of attraction you think you need to pull is much less than you thinkI like this. The better you get at game, the less game you have to use. I think it's important at the beginning: you have to do gamey things to gain confidence, push yourself and discover what's possible. Push the limits of reality, so to speak. Once you know what you're doing and have that confidence with women, they can sense it. You don't have to DO as much. You can touch her very lightly and she'll get it: "Ok, this guy's not fucking around". It's not just your touch, it's your whole vibe an… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/19 08:41 PM |
| 2 | I need help desperately man...Username... eh.... fuck it.... Nevermind. | /r/seduction | 26/08/19 07:55 PM |
| 46 | I need help desperately man...I would recommend paragraphing. That's the first step on the journey to being healthy. | /r/seduction | 26/08/19 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Just an advice I want to give my fellow brothers: "Girls should not be your destination but should be part of the journey." If whatever you're doing is to try and get girls rethink your mindset.Perfect! You live in a high tourist area. That is perfect for practicing (and failing) with people who you will never see again. You are French? Look for tourist girls who are wandering around the city, looking for something magical to happen. Make that fantasy a reality for them ;) Search this sub (and sidebar) for material. EDIT: Your environment is perfect for approaching girls, chatting them up and flirting, and going on instadates. | /r/seduction | 07/08/19 08:50 PM |
| 24 | Just an advice I want to give my fellow brothers: "Girls should not be your destination but should be part of the journey." If whatever you're doing is to try and get girls rethink your mindset.What you are seeing is the inherent contradiction between inner and outer game. A lot of what you read in this sub is about inner game. IE, work on yourself and they will come naturally. It's just not that simple. It is very important to work on yourself, and be a complete, balanced individual with interests, goals and passion. But the cold hard truth is that talking to girls and being good with women is a skill set that can be learned. It's the same as acting, improve or comedy. It's not a stra… | /r/seduction | 07/08/19 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Why do women intentionally reply really slow to texts?I take my time or don't bother replying to girls that are at the mid to bottom of my options. I assume that girls do the same, except their options are 10x larger than mine. The worse thing you can do is send needy, follow up texts when she doesn't respond. She might be on the fence about you, exploring other options (that may very well not work out), or be busy with other priorities in her life. Needy texts just push you to the bottom of the list. Just move on to the next girl, and/or get more … | /r/seduction | 19/07/19 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Self Love & it’s ImportanceGood on you mate. I might be making the same mistake as you were... but after years in a relationship with a woman who has the warmth and sensuality of a slab of marble, I need some feminine energy for a least a little while. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/07/19 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Self Love & it’s ImportanceGreat! I'm glad my words resonated with you. But I’m telling myself everyday, “just be friends”. I guess that's your choice, given that you're doing the celibacy thing. I personally, am having sex with them, but not getting attached. I'll even date some women consistently. But I keep the relationship open and casual; not committing to anything. It's def hard sometimes... I've just met a woman who actually ticks all my boxes and who I get along extremely well with. She's leaving the city soon, so… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/07/19 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kissa backhanded insult disguised as a compliment or joke to take advantage of a persons insecurities to manipulate them into vying for your approval. | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 09:00 PM |
| 6 | Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kissYou are right there. Most guys are terrible at negging. Personally, I don't like negs. Although counter-intuitively, they can help build trust with the hotter, more confident women, given that most men turn into complete sycophants with them. Maybe playful teasing is a better description than negging. The same goes with women; playful teasing from a girl who is attracted rather than shit tests. Although the dark side is powerful and can be effective... humans are tricky. The one thing that guys … | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 07:23 PM |
| 253 | Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kissOk, I know this sounds preachy, but I'm honestly just sharing, hoping it might resonate with someone here. 9-10s are all in your head. They often become 7 or 8s after you have sex with them. It so much more satisfying to have sex with girls who you really connect with, and that TREAT YOU WELL. When they can offer value outside of being hot, it's so much more fulfilling. There's so many beautiful women. It's much better to spend time with one who has beauty + X. For me anyway. | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 05:25 PM |
| 25 | Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kissand I would also like to hit that.. Says every guy, hence she can be an intolerable bitch. But honestly, good on you. It sounds like you weren't a push over like every other guy. You didn't let it affect you and took it in stride. Now it looks like she's chasing. Take this advice from a stranger on the internet with a grain of salt, but I would double down on that. You did sorta tolerate her behavior... Instead of just being unaffected by her, set some boundaries: Call out/reprimand her bad beha… | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 05:17 PM |
| 967 | Very hot girl gave me a record-breaking number of shit tests on our first date. I deflected most of them and she ended up initiating the kissShit tests or not, she sounds like an insecure, intolerable bitch. | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 05:05 PM |
| 12 | Is it even worth it?I went through something similar. The flake rate is extremely high at the beginning. A lot of girls will give you their number and flake/ghost because: they want to end the interaction; they don't want to say no to your face. they feel like you "deserve it", because you were polite, sweet, etc. But they aren't that into you. get caught up in the emotions of the moment, but decide it wasn't a good idea later have a bf. I know it's weird, but some girls will do that in the moment. Any other random… | /r/seduction | 17/07/19 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Why do women who show massive interest/chase after a guy lose interest when they realize that he is also interested in them?How old is she and how old are you? While on our way there and back I escalated to rubbing her thigh. Took a few tries but she didnt mind it. Hard to say since I obviously wasn't there, but if she toned it down sexually after that, then it probably has to do with this. Maybe you came on too strong. Maybe it was uncalibrated (came out of nowhere). Maybe she only knows how to get a guys attention by being sexual because she doesn't know how to flirt very well; she wanted you to notice her and like… | /r/seduction | 15/07/19 07:18 PM |
| 21 | Self Love & it’s ImportanceI agree but easier said than done. So much has been written about this in various forms. First thing that comes to mind is 7 habits by Covey, where he talks about (co)dependence, independence and interdependence. Most men (people) are stuck in dependence. I think what happens with most people is that they go through a period of hardship in life, start becoming independent and start gaining momentum. This makes them attractive, and they end up meeting someone when they were "not looking for anyon… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/07/19 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Girl I went on a date with texts me this, what’s best way to respond? She’s early 20’s.Ok, fair enough. Question: How long did you wait to reach out to them? (more or less) | /r/seduction | 12/07/19 06:55 PM |
| 19 | There is no fucking difference between cold approaching and swipe right on tinderOnce you develop that skill set, your chances are much better in person actually. I'll get at least 10 numbers from approaching 50 women. At LEAST. I would be lucky to get one match from 50 swipes on tinder. A lot of those numbers will flake or ghost, but a lot of tinder matches do the same anyway. More importantly, the quality of the women I'm meeting in real life is MUCH higher. Maybe MOST importantly, you get to grow as a person and socially. You can more easily make connections with anybody.… | /r/seduction | 12/07/19 06:30 PM |
| 6 | Girl I went on a date with texts me this, what’s best way to respond? She’s early 20’s.I regretted it and reached out to them later Classic. Abundance is the key. The guy truly in abundance rarely will let his ego get in the way. He'll just be like "Thanks, all the best". It's not exactly how polite or rude it is... it's weird... it's something about that vibe that girls pick up on and is hard to fake. If a girl feels like she's rejected that kind of guy (usually mistakenly), she will feel that pang; a sense of loss. There's a lot more that can be said on this subject... but let's… | /r/seduction | 12/07/19 06:20 PM |
| 12 | Self-help notesI don't think it's as easy as drinking Kombucha (and probiotics) though. It can have negative effects for some people. The gut is extremely complex and I don't think anyone really understands it. Although they can probably all agree that it is super important in terms of health; specifically when it comes to hormones and neurotransmitters. | /r/seduction | 10/07/19 10:43 PM |
| 20 | HB I used to fuck asks to take me home after work, wants sex, but doesn’t come in...She may have been trying to make someone jealous | /r/seduction | 10/07/19 03:01 PM |
| 1 | How to be friendly without being a nice guy?You might actually be very well balanced. a) you might be going for the wrong kind of women. b) you might be going for very attractive women. Their main problem is that most guys are too easy for them. Most guys will fall to their knees and propose if she even just smile at them. So you need to present a bit of a challenge for her. It varies wildly from woman to woman of course, but you could be the one that is dangerous/challenging/mysterious/really gets to know her in ways most people don't, e… | /r/seduction | 05/07/19 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Fuck learning "tricks" or "tips". 99% of the time they dont work and just make you look stupid. Just learn about building self worth and the very basics of attraction and everything else will follow.That's a better answer than mine. I was thinking that as well about the girl leaving her drink with you. It's more likely a sign of trust than a shit test, so I'm not sure where the OP read this. Maybe he confused it with "wait here while I go to the bathroom". Especially in a club setting, if you wait there like a puppy, it's an attraction killer. You're better off going somewhere else and talking to other people. Anyway, like you said, it's an art not a science. It's better to be aware of them… | /r/seduction | 05/07/19 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Fuck learning "tricks" or "tips". 99% of the time they dont work and just make you look stupid. Just learn about building self worth and the very basics of attraction and everything else will follow.I think this is interesting. No offense to you, as this applies to most (young) guys learning this: It's a consequence of black and white thinking. Like all pickup is good or it's all bad. In this particular case, the shit test (I prefer congruence test) is something guys struggle with when they first learn about it. They start thinking EVERYTHING a girl does is a shit test. They get into a competitive mind frame with women and that's not good. They may have a negative experience like yours and … | /r/seduction | 05/07/19 10:23 PM |
| 3 | Got a cute girl's number today - How to proceed?It sounds more like this could be a business interaction for her than anything based in attraction. I would say continue forward with setting up whatever you said you would set up for her, if that's what you really want to do. From there, make it clear to her that you also want to get to know her on a personal level and see if you can set up some sort of date. If you're helping her out for her business, she may feel obligated to be friends/friendly so you will have to work from there. This sub i… | /r/seduction | 02/07/19 06:24 PM |
| 24 | How do hookups, fwbs and one night stands even happen? How does it work?How many times a day do you have sexual thoughts? Like most people, probably very often. Just turn these little guilty thoughts into something funny and relatable. EG: I was on an instadate yesterday. She was talking about a sign at the bar: "Oh that one. I couldn't see it at first because that guy's back was blocking it." The guy was sitting at a stool and we were at a table, so we were lower. Our line of sight was in line with his butt. Me: "That guys ass was in the way? Stop looking at guys' … | /r/seduction | 28/06/19 05:50 PM |
| 5 | How do hookups, fwbs and one night stands even happen? How does it work?This is solid advice. You basically have to filter up front. The thing is though, it really has to come from the right place. Women/people are good at detecting when this is an act, or try hard, or thirsty, etc. You really have to be casual about it and have a DGAF attitude. If you have strong beliefs/emotions/values/judgments/guilt about sex or if you haven't had lots of it, it's hard to fake. I think it would be a good idea for OP (and a lot of guys here) to find a way to talk and joke about s… | /r/seduction | 28/06/19 05:27 PM |
| 14 | Using who you are as a strength is better than trying to become some alpha who you really aren’t meant to be.My guess is that you are reactive to women. You are in display mode. "Look at all my good qualities". I'm not sure what you mean over text and not Tinder/dating apps. How are you meeting these women? I assume that the problem is in person rather than "text game" or whatever. In any case, you SHOULD be meeting more women in person, so the following is based on that. You should be leading. Push their buttons a bit. Tease. Play. Make sexual comments and jokes. Touch them while they are receptive em… | /r/seduction | 26/06/19 05:23 PM |
| 8 | Using who you are as a strength is better than trying to become some alpha who you really aren’t meant to be.By definition, only a small minority of guys can be alpha. If you think you have it in you, but something held you back, be it upbringing, society, some kind of trauma, a bad relationship, etc, then go for it. But also understand that alphaness isn't a 100% scientific concept that applies to humans. Human interactions are extremely complex and nuanced. That being said, being assertive (without being pushy), able to lead, handle social pressure without being intimidated, and being able to display… | /r/seduction | 26/06/19 04:58 PM |
| 3 | 7 Body Language Tricks That Help You Attract WomenThis is good advice but the video title is horrible. Attracting "any girl" is a horrible mindset to have. You should be trying to find girls that are the right fit for you. This could be shared interests, natural chemistry, sense of humor, etc. | /r/seduction | 26/06/19 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Study: 23-33% of women admit to going on dates with men just for the free meal.I (almost) always split. I go on a lot of dates... It would be too expensive otherwise!! I don't make a big deal out of it. I just hold the frame and assumption that that's the normal thing to do. If she thinks I'm a cheapskate, then probably not the right fit anyways. Hopefully, by my vibe, she gets the signal is that I'm not scarce on options... Sometimes I'll pay if she is really young and obviously struggling relative to me. You can tell which ones have pride and want to pay and those that s… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/19 07:48 PM |
| 13 | You know what's worse than not approaching a girl?Why am i like this 😪 97% of men are like this, so don't feel too bad. But at the same time, feel bad so that you are motivated to become the 3%. Warning: it won't be easy. | /r/seduction | 21/06/19 10:22 PM |
| 3 | Askwomen sub "why a second date?"whisper in his ear that you want him to come back to your place Haha... ok. I'd say that unless you are "near model attractive, famous, or rich" then this won't happen the majority of the time (or at all). The whole thing is a mind fuck honestly. You have to have gauged throughout the date whether she is receptive to the idea. The man should just know. If you ask her to come to your place and she's not ready, you risk turning her off and coming across as needy. IF you DON'T try to get her back t… | /r/seduction | 21/06/19 10:05 PM |
| 4 | Some girls look better than others (Question)Yes! This is a good way to do it for sure! | /r/seduction | 21/06/19 06:00 PM |
| 3 | Some girls look better than others (Question)I approach whomever I find attractive. I generally have a low standard for approaching, but correspondingly I have low expectations of what the interaction will be like. It's often a "she's cute, let's talk to her and see what happens" attitude. I can become MORE attracted to her or LESS, depending on how we connect. It's all good. Sometimes, I find a woman absolutely stunning. This can go either way. I think when you are starting out, the default mode is to put her on a pedestal. Why would she … | /r/seduction | 21/06/19 05:55 PM |
| 10 | Askwomen sub "why a second date?"Yes, this all makes sense, but calibration is tricky. If you overly focus on it, then you become REACTIVE to her. She is essentially taking the lead and this is an attraction killer. As much as we preach calibration, I don't think it's something you can apply in real time. It's something you learn (assuming you give yourself honest feedback) as you gain experience with women. IE, more interactions, more dates, more bringing her back to your place. It has to become more intuitive. If it requires … | /r/seduction | 21/06/19 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Fuck itit's a common problem. we just want something from everyone else. if we can fix this and be more selfless, it would naturally greatly improve your dating life as well because women won't feel so used Haha. You are coming at this based on the assumption that women aren't equally part of the problem. Remember pickup 101? White knight, pedestal, etc ;) Women are human and equally as guilty and flawed as we are in this whole affair. Having the mindset that becoming a better person will improve your … | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Fuck it(Please read my edit if you haven't). Well... speak louder can definitely help! I think that is super important. But ya, I agree. There is a lot of bullshit posted here about what you "should" say, etc. Which makes it even more important to go out and try stuff for yourself. See what works, etc. Nobody can tell you how to socialize over the internet. You have to just do it. But no amount of self reflection and inner game will help you either. "as long as it doesn't have anything to do with any k… | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Fuck itI agree 100% with what you said. Although I think a lot of people will read this as an excuse to focus on themselves and inner game. While this is always good, you need BOTH inner and outer game to be successful. Inner game is helpful in taking care of yourself and an important part of growth and being more centered and mature. Understanding yourself is very important in developing social intelligence. Outer game is a skill set that is inherently social and must be PRACTICED. You need to interac… | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 06:38 PM |
| 38 | How do I respond to this?That essay was obviously overthinking it. She super liked by accident. It happens. She apologized. Who cares. It's fuckin Tinder. "This reply rolls with the jab she countered with. His opening shows he's confident, but his ability to immediately self-depricate shows his confidence will stand up to an attack on it." LOL. Ridiculous. A girl who invested nothing on one side, a guy playing mental gymnastics on the other. Dancing by himself. I think this shows the importance of going out, in real lif… | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 06:30 PM |
| 1 | How do I respond to this?Or you know... she swiped wrong. Given that is was a super like, it's not so hard to believe. | /r/seduction | 23/05/19 06:20 PM |
| 3 | I feel attractive (21M), but never have been in any relationship or any significant romantic involvement.I guess we won't get along then ;) To be fair, I fully agree with the original feminist message. When it was centered around women's liberation. As with any movement, when it becomes mainstream and popular, ideas become dumb downed and ideological. Male shaming has become mainstream and accepted. That's my perspective along with a lot of men on here. | /r/seduction | 15/05/19 10:18 PM |
| 2 | I feel attractive (21M), but never have been in any relationship or any significant romantic involvement.This is so true. You’re going to need to act. Women LIKE male relationships. They LIKE sex. When you first meet a woman looking for a romantic interaction they are hoping you can be both of those things for them until you manage to disqualify yourself. It is so hard as a male who's been trained from childhood to be ashamed of his masculinity (thanks feminism) to not engage in behavior that disqualifies you with women, at some point or another. Sometimes early in the game during the approach and … | /r/seduction | 15/05/19 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Just tried Day Game for the first time at the Mall.oh boy... good for you for trying this! But this is not game. You're simply asking random girls for their number. In over simplified terms: Game is going in, piquing her interest enough so that she'll talk to you, vibing with her and hopefully creating attraction, while making it fun and playful with some teasing, etc. At the end of the interaction, getting the number is the natural consequence of wanting to see each other again; not the goal itself. It's really hard for most guys to do unless t… | /r/seduction | 15/05/19 04:40 PM |
| 6 | If you're Asian, you are not doomedObviously written by someone who has put in work, worked on himself and is a positive person. Well done! Women love a man who is extra-ordinary. Period. If you work on becoming someone who breaks out of the mold, and becomes or strives to be someone of your own design and choosing, they will love you for it. Asian or not. | /r/seduction | 13/05/19 09:20 PM |
| 6 | Can I be really nice and date an attractive woman?I think this is a common misunderstanding. There's nothing wrong with being nice if it's genuine. You said you make friends easily and it sounds like you have good social skills. The problem with the "nice guy" thing is that it often comes from scarcity. It's a coping strategy. It's not genuine because it's the only way the nice guy can get by in life. He has no boundaries and is hoping he can get what he wants in life by appeasing people, avoiding conflict and just being... Nice. I like to thin… | /r/seduction | 08/05/19 05:11 PM |
| 59 | approaching after jerking off?You should be good to approach but you must first drink a kale smoothie then go for a swim in water that is between 19 and 23 degrees centigrade. | /r/seduction | 21/04/19 04:58 PM |
| 6 | How To Exude Sexual MagnetismThis is one of the best posts I've read on this sub and mirrors almost exactly my thoughts on the subject. I don't have much to add, but thought I'd mention this. It's uncanny... perhaps these ideas form from actual experience cold approaching women in a daygame scenario? What I would add in reference to the porn thing: There is also an empowering aspect to it. You have to realize that porn is a private, shameful act for most people. By extension, most guys who jack off to porn also hold the p… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/19 07:48 PM |
| 1 | 18 Reasons You Should LOVE RejectionsYou're right: you shouldn't care if a girl likes your face or not. That's the point you are making but not the point I was putting forth. Sometimes the girl will be uncomfortable/creeped out/offended no matter what you do. That's just the nature of the game. You shouldn't let it bother you. Whether a girl likes your face: who gives a fuck. If you're making a girl uncomfortable: you should give at least a little bit of a fuck. Nobody wants to be the guy running around approaching girls and creepi… | /r/seduction | 17/04/19 04:38 PM |
| 0 | 18 Reasons You Should LOVE RejectionsIt's only uncomfortable if you decide it is. That's not true. Some girls decide they don't like your face/vibe and chose to view it as an awkward/creepy interaction no matter what you do. That being said, that shouldn't stop you from approaching, working on your social skills, "vibe" and all that. The better you are and the more comfortable you are with yourself, the LESS likely these things happen. Less likely, but not guaranteed. That's part of the whole risk/reward thing... | /r/seduction | 16/04/19 10:33 PM |
| 20 | Where the fuck do people even pull!?I'm not saying I can do this 100%, but the basic principles apply: 1- Don't telegraph your intentions. If you're too obvious about who and what you want, you will get resistance/rejection from the group 2- Gain the group's approval. By being social, normal and not a dick. Being fun/funny/interesting obviously helps. 3- Start engaging your target more.(more basics here; qualify, humor, maybe statements of intent, compliance tests) 4 - if you feel that she is sufficiently interested/attracted, try… | /r/seduction | 05/04/19 07:48 PM |
| 4 | When a Girl says she has a boyfriend...I feel like this is a very complex issue that often gets oversimplified. As if there is a simple course of action that you should take in the "BF scenario". When a girl says this, it often means that... she has a BF. But to be fair, it COULD mean a bunch of different things. If you hear this from her, it's most often (but def not always) a no-go. You shouldn't blame yourself or self attack, but it often means you've failed... but not always. If you get this in the initial stages of the interacti… | /r/seduction | 04/04/19 10:55 PM |
| 0 | Reacting To Cringe Female Relationship Memes 🔥He talk like he black | /r/seduction | 02/04/19 01:16 AM |
| 3 | What are the reasons for a beautiful, smart girl to be single?I mean this seems like the most logical answer. Why does the OP assume they want to settle down? Classic example of look at their behavior, not their words. Of course she's going to say something like "I can't seem to find the right guy". Not "I like fuckin a bunch of guys". | /r/seduction | 26/03/19 02:20 PM |
| 0 | How can I not feel intimidated by beautiful women?Sure you can be a nice guy if you want. Don't play the game. Attractive women DO play a game though. Their game is that 97% of men don't even exist for them. This is how women think of most men. Either a creep, a cute puppy that they would never fuck, or completely invisible. Look, the point is not to objectify women, but if you're like most men, you need to become a bit of an asshole first, and then learn to pull back a bit. Women hate nice guys not because they are nice; it's because being nic… | /r/seduction | 25/03/19 05:30 PM |
| 1 | How to get over hating my bodyWomen mostly respond to the emotions you give them. Why not get out there with a "fuck it, nothing to lose attitude". Nothing would happen sitting in your condo anyway, so may as well go out, have fun, experiment with reality. And no, you don't look like a fat slob. | /r/seduction | 24/03/19 06:40 PM |
| 3 | How can I not feel intimidated by beautiful women?You're asking how do you build muscle without lifting weights. You have to do it. Approach. Look at it this way: beautiful girls are disposable. They will get old. And there is an endless supply of new ones coming in. What are you looking for besides looks? | /r/seduction | 23/03/19 04:56 AM |
| 5 | Is this an IOI or is a girl creeped out by me?If they smile, that's good. If they break eye contact by looking to the ground, it's a sign of submission. Also good, generally speaking. You should approach with a "let's just see what happens" mentality. | /r/seduction | 04/03/19 06:32 PM |
| 1 | You should NEVER ignore any signs of infidelityI wouldn't draw too many lessons from Hollywood shit. This is all make believe. It's manicured. A show put on by people who present an imaginary version of reality to passive consumers. For all we know it was just an act and she was never attracted to him. What sells is "Ow wow look how sexually charged and inappropriate Russel Brand is!! HAHAAHA!! OMG!". It looks like this is exactly what they were selling here. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/02/19 10:07 PM |
| 2 | How to approach at traffic lightsAfter you cross paths, turn around and go back to her. Check your phone as if something came up if it makes you feel better. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Got rejected brutallySometimes it's like fighting. You need to get a good smack in the face and then you're on point. | /r/seduction | 11/02/19 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Detailed Guide on How to Introduce Yourself to a Woman - designed and tested for cold approachingit literally doesn't matter one bit what you say in an approach I agree. And I think approaching women is different for every guy. You have to do what works for you, which is why I don't put much faith in these detailed break downs. The general concepts are: 1 - open (force yourself to do until it isn't such an anxiety provoking thing anymore) 2 - intent (you need to establish that you are interested and talking to her because she is a woman and you are a man; whether it's direct or indirect) 3 … | /r/seduction | 08/02/19 11:25 PM |
| 2 | "I like you because you make me feel good"Nah. I can say whatever I want to her. Insecurity isn't in what you say it's in the place it's coming from. I'm fine. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/02/19 03:32 PM |
| 1 | "I like you because you make me feel good"Hmm... I will try asking my FB why she likes me. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/02/19 12:52 AM |
| 2 | The Untold truth of IG Models and bartenders (They need us more than we need them!)I mean, the video is kinda interesting because it helps guys to not put hot girls on a pedestal maybe. But it's not all that insightful. Hot girls are like any other girls: you are either a provide or lover to them. | /r/seduction | 28/01/19 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?Honestly, you need to try to change that attitude as much as you can. You can't look at human interaction as a zero sum game. A lot of it is emotional. Positive vibes and making people feel good is something you can give freely. If you get good at providing people value in that way, you can get far in many areas of life, not just women. Try smiling at people without expecting a smile back. First, it's amazing how good you can make them feel. Second, it's also amazing how good people are at detec… | /r/seduction | 27/01/19 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?Sorry man. It sounds like you have a lot of problems interacting with women, and have had lots of negative experiences. Again, context matters: I was talking about a girl giving you a bit of shit while interacting. Not a girl who is flat out rejecting you and telling you to go away, either verbally or non. | /r/seduction | 26/01/19 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?You are correct. It's not scientific at all. A lot of human interactions are messy. This is short hand. Stereotypes. Mental shortcuts that guys who have experience doing this converge on. I'm supposed to wanna put MORE effort into a woman that is apparently rejecting me. That is ridiculous. Rejection: the context we were talking about here is a girl giving you signs that she's attracted, but giving you a bit of shit while interacting with her. It's not necessarily a flat out rejection. Not so bl… | /r/seduction | 26/01/19 07:25 AM |
| 1 | How to pick up her?That was just a joke. I was answering your question literally. (It actually can be done though, but I wouldn't try it as a beginner, nor with girls in your social circle. And you have to be able to read girls fast and easily recognize when their emotions are in upward momentum). It was a joke because this question can't be answered. You have to let go of this girl and learn to become good with women generally. Only then will you be able to get a girl that you like, whoever she may be. | /r/seduction | 24/01/19 10:01 PM |
| 6 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?Me too. And that is so true! Once you break through to her, it can really create a lot of attraction and a connection. Even though it's confrontational on the surface, once you know the game, it's cooperative and fun at it's core. You just give each other a little shit. Teasing. But ya, some girls are just nasty. Luckily, they are few and far between. Most just wanna have fun ;) | /r/seduction | 24/01/19 07:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?Read up on shit tests (aka congruence tests) It's easy for any guy to fake certain qualities. She will do things that are meant to throw you off at an emotional level to see if you are what you advertise. EDIT: Learning what to say to "pass" shit tests is good, but will only get you so far. Gain more and more experience interacting with hot women, taking social risks and putting yourself out there (getting your ego destroyed). You will become less reactive at a physiological level, and will pass… | /r/seduction | 24/01/19 06:58 PM |
| 1 | How to pick up her?When she's laughing or on an emotional high, go for a side hug with your arm on her lower back and hers over your shoulders. Look at her for a bit and spike again: "You're kinda weird but I love you. I'm taking you with me." Bend down, get your other arm behind her knees and lift. Congrats: You have successfully picked up a girl. EDIT: That was just a joke. See my reply further down | /r/seduction | 24/01/19 05:51 PM |
| 14 | Why do Women try to catch your eyes and act intrested but when you go over they seem harder to talk too?Catching your eyes: Classic IOI. She's interested/curious/attracted (It is possible that she made eye contact by accident. That's usually obvious unless you have problems reading people). Harder to talk to: Part of it is anti slut defense (ASD). She can't make it that easy for you. For girls to give IOIs is a huge thing in itself, in her mind. If she were to make it easy for you on top of that, what kind of girl would that make her? Society, you, herself would judge her to be too easy. Another p… | /r/seduction | 24/01/19 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Confused about no contact...doesn't it make you appear butthurt and upset?Don't delude yourself. It's very hard to accept this as a guy unless you come from an abundance mindset. It's very easy to delude yourself into thinking maybe you can turn this around... Just maybe. Only see her if you TRULY are interested in friends only. Meaning you are actively pursuing other options. If that's not the case, save yourself the anguish and tell her you can't meet up with her. TLDR; Get more girls | /r/seduction | 23/01/19 03:09 PM |
| 2 | The Tightrope "Nice Guys" Need To WalkThis sub is fucked. But on the off chance that this would help any poor souls who might come across this: a man whispering into a woman's ear is a very intimate thing. Please don't do this unless she's ALREADY attracted. It's extremely uncalibrated and is likely to creep her the fuck out. This is something that you would do very much later in physical escalation after you received signs that she was ok with much more basic things. | /r/seduction | 22/01/19 05:30 PM |
| 2 | What are you supposed to do as a guy if you're 28 and no girl in person has ever liked you or been attracted to you?No. Trust me. Most guys have the opposite problem. They get little or no matches online. Like me. I have to get out there and actually engage women. It's a lot of effort. I'd much rather sit my ass at home or do whatever I want and just swipe on Tinder for 30 mins or so when I need to get laid. I have to actually be charming and try to get to know and understand women; their psychology and sexuality. It's disgusting. | /r/seduction | 21/01/19 10:30 PM |
| 9 | The Tightrope "Nice Guys" Need To WalkTo be clear, I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't mean grabbing a random girl by the hips and grinding on her, or pulling a random girl by the hand to the dance floor. He means that these are some of the things guys who are good with women do, or at least try with girls they have built some kind of rapport with. And sometimes not... | /r/seduction | 21/01/19 10:16 PM |
| 8 | The Tightrope "Nice Guys" Need To WalkLOL. This whole response... I'm gonna call bullshit here. It's pretty obvious to me that you are still operating under a "nice guy" paradigm. There are so many things but for one: frankly I'm not attracted to the kind of woman that likes being treated that way. And what kind of woman is that? A SLLUUUUUUUUUUUTTT? The most ironic thing about the white knight/nice guy thing is that you are making assumptions about women's sexuality based on mainstream BS (and not actual experience) and slut shamin… | /r/seduction | 21/01/19 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Girl I just met sends me text asking me "where do you see this relationship going" how do I respond?To be honest, this seems like a red flag to me too. But if she was cool during the interaction, then maybe give her a chance? Some people are bad at texting. You can be blunt and say you have no idea until you go on a least one date. It could be that she wants to know if you're interested in a relationship or just sex. | /r/seduction | 19/01/19 10:35 PM |
| 4 | Any tips for a 40 year old guy?It took me a while to get over it too. Just be prepared to be shamed, but if you are centered as a man, it becomes less and less of an issue. There are plenty of young women that are intelligent, emotional stable, full of life, curious about life, philosophical, open to new experiences, like to be challenged by an older guy. It's not like women 30+ have all have magnetic fuckin personalities... I don't know anything about you, but if you are on your path as a man, I'm sure you've felt the attrac… | /r/seduction | 18/01/19 05:54 PM |
| 12 | Any tips for a 40 year old guy?I'm not saying I'm attracted to women generally in their 20's Why not? Women are in their prime 18-25. Do you think those judgmental betas go home and jack off to porn with women exclusively 30+? And make sure these women aren't caught up in sex trafficking? And make sure they don't come from a background of sexual abuse? Bullshit. Why not be involved in a consensual relationship with an actual woman instead? | /r/seduction | 18/01/19 05:41 PM |
| 38 | Any tips for a 40 year old guy?I don't have specific advice but think of this: society will shame you for being attracted to 25 year old but will have the attitude of "you go girl!" if a 25 year old girl takes half your shit. Do what you want. Leave the petty moralizing to the betas. Protect yourself. | /r/seduction | 18/01/19 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Do women ever initiate sex with men they are in relationship with ?If you are in an LTR, chances are she's initiating sex because some other guy got her hot. If she is fairly attractive, just hope it was only that. | /r/seduction | 14/01/19 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Technique doesn't matter if you're a mess. Fix yourself or don't bother.This sub-reddit preaches about "game" and "technique", No it doesn't really... It focuses too much on inner game and not enough on going out there and DOING. Socializing is about interacting with others. Gaming is about the same thing, but pushed to a different level. It will expose your insecurities, be painful, and lead you towards growth if you allow it. Technique is important because it gives guys a "social anchor". They can get out there and try new things, and push their limits while havin… | /r/seduction | 10/01/19 05:46 PM |
| 2 | After weeks of lurking, I feel like everyone here is suffering one thing that is holding them back: overthinking.one thing that is holding them back: overthinking. You are right there Its deeper than that. You are wrong here. It's not deep at all. It's not taking action (or giving up after dabbling a few months) that's holding 97% of guys back. | /r/seduction | 09/01/19 10:38 PM |
| 31 | SHE will tell you how to sleep with her!Todd V is very helpful when it comes to technical game EDIT: The problem is that this video doesn't tell you how and when. (Understandable, as he wants you to buy his product). So when she tells you "You're a little touchy feely," you back off, don't act hurt, angry or emotional in anyway and move the conversation forward without making a big deal out of it. Even a quick "sorry" and move on is fine. As long as you don't dwell on it. Once you've built enough comfort, if you see open body language… | /r/seduction | 05/01/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Did (22 yo) guy ruined his first kiss?I'm guessing English is not your first language. It's a bit hard to understand what happened based on your description. All I can offer is a couple of general guidelines when it comes to this kind of thing: Girls will often reject the kiss the first time. (same for sex). They want to see (subconsciously maybe) how you react to this. You need to: - not get butthurt about it. They want to see that you are ok emotionally and won't get all sad or angry or loose all your confidence. - they also want … | /r/seduction | 03/01/19 10:32 PM |
| 2 | How to get over a girl I like at work?Get more girls (not at work though) | /r/seduction | 31/12/18 07:56 PM |
| 6 | New girl at my job. How to engage?"Should I try to engage in a little touching at work?" Jesus fuck. No. You asked her out twice and she declined both times. It's done. Move on. Also, find women outside of work. | /r/seduction | 27/12/18 05:06 PM |
| 9 | Question about No More Mr. Nice GuyYa I think you are misunderstanding. By good enough, you mean skill at something. You are correct: always look for ways to improve. What he means by not good enough is undeserving. Nice guys feel like they don't deserve to have things at a deeper level. They do not feel entitled to things like love, respect, praise, etc. They need to self accept and learn that they are good enough for these things. Every human is, including themselves. | /r/seduction | 20/12/18 04:26 PM |
| 4 | I asked a girl out.Now you must suck her figurative dick. Ask her about herself and truly listen and try to understand what she is telling you. She tells you she likes X. Instead of saying "oh ya, I know this and that about X." Or "I did this thing involving X once". Try 'what made you interested in x?" Or "really? How does x make you feel?". Or something like that Try to keep it about her. Your goal is to have her do 80% of the talking. When it does come time to talk about yourself, talk about what interests you … | /r/seduction | 18/12/18 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Update: why does it hurt when I get rejected?This is awesome. You are approaching with the right mindset. Keep it up! Some feedback: Don't count things as a binary win/fail. You talked to 2 girls with BFs. So what. They were just positive social interactions. All good. Same with the girl who didn't want to go home with you. You both had fun. Whatever. Please don't view this as a mistake. Most guys won't go for the "big ask" so you are ahead of the curve. But you can't just ask her directly like that. Look into the concepts of plausible den… | /r/seduction | 16/12/18 08:13 PM |
| 6 | Missed a huge chance yesterday. Didn’t know how to escalate?Totally agree and I was the same way. See my edit. | /r/seduction | 16/12/18 04:18 AM |
| 10 | Missed a huge chance yesterday. Didn’t know how to escalate?Girls are different and they will react in different ways. You said she was just laying there and enjoying it: there you go. You're doing it right. What the fuck more do you want? Words of encouragement from Mommy? Her to take your dick and gently guide it into her pussy? Man the fuck up. She's waiting for you to take her. As a man, you need to take pleasure in that. I don't know what to say... You have dick? Then lead mother fucker. Why do you need the internet to tell you it's ok to take a wom… | /r/seduction | 15/12/18 08:20 PM |
| 1 | My ATTRACTION MANIFESTO : What I've learned in 7 years. From an introvert CEREBRAL guy who went deep down the rabbit whole.I'm late to the party but here goes: Great post. I really like the part about treating yourself like a character in an RPG. It hits on a couple of important aspects of self improvement: 1 - Treat yourself like you would a good friend. Sometimes, it's hard to be nice to ourselves. When trying to level up or character, we do 100% what is in the interest and benefit of our character. There are no feelings of undeserved-ness that get in the way. 2 - Detachment of self and emotions. In a Buddhist/med… | /r/seduction | 14/12/18 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Shit test compilation threadYou don't have to start over. That 30 years is the basis you need to start with this new journey. It wouldn't be possible without it. | /r/seduction | 10/12/18 02:53 PM |
| 1 | How to handle "I have a boyfriend"Haha, and then she would swoon at the show of violence and fall into your arms! "My hero!" | /r/seduction | 09/12/18 12:36 AM |
| 5 | Shit test compilation threadOh shit, you've expressed that much more succinctly then I did :D | /r/seduction | 08/12/18 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Shit test compilation threadReally good comment! But I disagree :D You raise some great points about the similarities, but I think that they are fundamentally different though. Like, the reasons for these behaviors are different between the sexes. For the woman, the shit test is "designed" to throw a man off. Rock his boat and be challenging emotionally. This is part of the process of her searching for honest signals. It really easy for a guy to puff out his chest and say "I'm a confident man". Much harder when she puts yo… | /r/seduction | 08/12/18 11:18 PM |
| 1 | How to handle "I have a boyfriend"I said if she's playful, have fun. You don't sound fun at all. Look, a lot of girls will say they have a BF to a random guy they just met. The "BF" could be just a guy she wishes was her BF. It could be just a defensive response because she's nervous, it could be a relationship that's ending and she's up for sex. Ultimately, it's her choice and you're just keeping the door open. EDIT: I'm making it clear that I want sex. This is actually a lot more honest and genuinely nice, than doing "nice guy… | /r/seduction | 08/12/18 10:44 PM |
| 11 | How to handle "I have a boyfriend""Awesome, how long have you been together?". That's usually my default. Then try to number close as friends. I've made new friends this way. If I feel like there's something more, I push the interaction. Still say "awesome, how long...", But keep flirting, get more sexual. Depends on how you're feeling and the vibe with her. I've said shit like "I'm going to steal you away", "your bf is a fuckin cock block", etc. If she's playful, just have fun. You never know... | /r/seduction | 08/12/18 06:57 AM |
| 5 | This Youtube video I found kind of fucked with my head and made me see something in myself that was holding me back a lot. I'd never heard any one else talk about it so I thought I'd share (TL;DR stop chasing self-esteem/confidence in life, instead just try to be as self-compassionate as possible).Expand. ? | /r/seduction | 05/12/18 03:00 AM |
| 1 | How To Tell If A Woman Is Attracted To You: 5 Subtle Signs A Girl Likes You (+Infield examples)You should try to put your penis inside her vagina. Then you'll know if she likes you. In the meantime, assume attraction and move things forward in that direction. | /r/seduction | 04/12/18 11:42 PM |
| 1 | little free-bee from Mark Manson’s “the subtle art of not giving a fuck”That's taking it too far though! Common. | /r/seduction | 26/11/18 04:40 PM |
| 2 | A total fuckin HagThis makes sense. That was my initial thought. This aggression is her personal form of ASD. You view her as an 8, so there must be some kind of attraction there, so I assume you maybekinna wanna to fuck her, even if a bit conflicted... Just go with something non committal and open ended. Just don't say "ya, let's fuck". Even if I'm right and this is ASD and shit testing, she sounds like her social skills aren't... on point. And or she is crazy. So... good luck? | /r/seduction | 24/11/18 06:02 PM |
| 2 | When a Nice Canadian Player Expertly Dismantles an American Douche at the Club.Papa founded RSD | /r/seduction | 20/11/18 05:13 PM |
| 46 | When a Nice Canadian Player Expertly Dismantles an American Douche at the Club.The more you get into game, the more you realize that Tyler/Owen is absolutely right about that guy. The thing is, the guy is not doing this 100% consciously nor maliciously. He's acting "logically" from the paradigm and belief system he is working under. That mainstream paradigm underlying says that sex is bad (or more specifically, that it can only be "good" under the "right" and ideal conditions) and that women who enjoy it are sluts and men who make "nice girls" wet are corrupting/fooling/ta… | /r/seduction | 19/11/18 07:02 PM |
| 58 | 12 signs that she’s into youQuick everyone get on snapchat!!! SNAPCHAT SNAPCHAT SNAPCHAT!!!! Snapchat = Pussy | /r/seduction | 30/10/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | So the good looking guy in my friend group is a virgin but the obnoxious one who pees on cars gets laid all the time?"Objectively speaking" is the wrong way to look at it. Instead, look at it from the point of view of the girl: He's fun, care free, won't judge me. He gives me good emotions. I can be free around him. Etc. | /r/seduction | 25/10/18 02:34 AM |
| 1 | This shit is so fucking hardHey man. I feel you. Try to take a break from it. Pickup/socializing is an EMOTIONAL activity. It's not like other things where the more effort you put in, the more you start seeing results. That being said, keep at it. It takes a while to start seeing results. Someone told me that women are like a lagging indicator. You are making progress, but aren't seeing results until much later. I kind thought "ya, I want to believe this but I'm not sure...". They were right. Keep putting in "work", but mo… | /r/seduction | 12/10/18 02:48 PM |
| 1 | This is the best time to approach a girlStop raping women then. WTF is wrong with you?! Edit: holy shit. A sense of humor goes a long way in seduction. Jesus. this sub. | /r/seduction | 03/10/18 02:07 PM |
| 28 | I actually did itAA is approach anxiety. The source of the anxiety can be many different things. For me, it's not so much the rejection, it's the fear of being judged by others watching. "The imaginary audience". | /r/seduction | 21/09/18 10:03 PM |
| 1 | I turn red.Therapy is expensive. Pickup is cheap. And you get faster results. Keep approaching. Keep trying. Put yourself in high pressure social situations. | /r/seduction | 20/09/18 10:32 PM |
| 1 | I turn red.I never really struggle with this It only happens when <...> when I communicate with girls that I like a little more than most girls. And you are posting about it. So it sounds like you are struggling with this. I think I would be better off embracing it instead of finding ways to get rid of it That's fine. It's up totally up to you. So why are you posting about it here then? EDIT: Not gonna bullshit you. You are looking for approval. If you want self acceptance out of this then it has to come f… | /r/seduction | 20/09/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | I turn red.I love it when a girl blushes when I'm talking to her, but... from the reverse perspective, ya... Probably not as good. I would try to work on this. I think there are some meditation techniques specific to this that you might want to Google. | /r/seduction | 20/09/18 06:45 PM |
| 2 | I just got rejected on my first approach ever fuckFirst of all: good job. That took balls and the fact that it was a hard rejection makes it really hard, but hey... if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. So it sounds like you need to learn to calibrate a bit better. That was way too fast, even if she didn't have a BF and she was interested in you by first impressions. This is not set in stone but it's something to go by for beginners: Start with statements of empathy. You need to demonstrate to her that you understand that what you are doi… | /r/seduction | 19/09/18 04:42 AM |
| 0 | How do you start the actual hooking up?Just tell him you want to take it slow. | /r/seduction | 15/09/18 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Guys who can't tell if a girl is checking you out, try this.So what you're saying is that I should put peanut butter on my dick? Is that your thing baby? You like that?! Fuck your chocolate chips! | /r/seduction | 14/09/18 06:39 PM |
| 6 | How can you turn on a girl with touch?Ya brushing her crotch area. I'd start with that. Make sure you formally announce what you're doing too, in those exact words. Seriously though, it really depends on what she likes and where you stand with her. You need to learn the basics of Kino escalation. | /r/seduction | 14/09/18 06:35 PM |
| 29 | How do I stop getting attached so quickly?Start approaching lots of girls. Gain the skills to talk to women easily. Start shifting your mindset from scarcity to abundance. These are ordered steps. So you know where to begin... | /r/seduction | 14/09/18 06:31 PM |
| 1 | I openAs long as you don't jizz in your pants, like that other poster, you should be fine. | /r/seduction | 14/09/18 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Advice on girl that doesn't text backWhen getting girls' number in the daytime from cold approach, the flake rate is extremely high. This is simply the reality. She might really like you in the moment, but after that wears off, you are an unknown to her. The more attractive she is, the more other options she has. She has absolutely nothing invested in you and you are just not "worth it". That's why qualifying is so important. You have to learn to make her invest in that way. Get her thinking, "Wait, am I good enough for him? Does h… | /r/seduction | 13/09/18 10:06 PM |
| 11 | This is why you're not getting laid: Asking a woman to have sex with you VS making a woman WANT to have sex with you.Ya, this is just an elaborate story with a truism: get girls to chase a bit. AKA buyer vs seller dynamic. It's all easier said then done. Lots of ins, lots of outs dude. But ya, as you said: it's a lot more complicated than just ignoring girls. AS RSD Jeffy put it: show intent, but give them the room/distance to meet you in the middle. | /r/seduction | 12/09/18 11:01 PM |
| 45 | This is why you're not getting laid: Asking a woman to have sex with you VS making a woman WANT to have sex with you.I agree with the comment above that the OP is bad advice, but reading lines that are written out vs how they come across in real life and their emotional impact is completely different. I believe that a line like this could work. In fact, you can say anything if it's congruent, and has the right energy and emotion behind it. You don't believe that lines like this could work because you think it has to be delivered by the smoothest, James Bond like character. It doesn't. You'd be surprised what w… | /r/seduction | 12/09/18 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Your poor game might not be your faultDiet is key! I had amazing benefits by eating more veggies and less meat, less processed shit. Less sugar and salt. The thing is, once you fix your diet, the weight comes off with a lot less effort. You get more energy, which makes it easier to workout, which amplifies the health benefits. Feeling physically fit and energetic has a HUGE HUGE HUGE impact on your mood. I think it should be considered one of the fundamentals of inner game. This NOT a replacement for veggies, but a great supplement … | /r/seduction | 12/09/18 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Ejaculation whilst texting girlfriendJizz in my pants, by Lonely Island. I cum too fast, by Jon Lajoie. These are two excellent resources that will not help you at all. | /r/seduction | 11/09/18 08:59 PM |
| 6 | Cold approach for older women in store/traffic etc. and it not being creepy??For the creep out factor: it's precisely because most guys are bad at it that the bar is so low. If you do a half decent approach, you usually get a positive reaction. It sounds like you have decent social skills so that won't be a problem. That being said, there will be some creep outs. That can't be helped... Omelettes, eggs, ya. You can't control where she's coming from, but you can control your emotional state and outlook: What you say matters very little. What you feel she feels. That's the… | /r/seduction | 05/09/18 02:03 PM |
| 2 | How to stop lying to the fans?Women/people are often more attracted to things they can't have. Or at least, are uncertain about them being attainable. If you can play up your Metro sexual charm, and have them wondering, this could work well for you. Sorry, I have no specific advice, but in theory this could work well. I'm not saying act like a complete flamer. Ambiguity and curiosity are the keys here. | /r/seduction | 04/09/18 06:36 PM |
| 1 | How to deal with customers vibing you?Learn the skills required to cold approach so that you don't have to shit where you eat. That being said, it sounds like it's just a service industry job. You can go ahead and start hitting on girls at work as long as you're prepared to lose your job, should it come to that. You can give her "extra service". This gives you plausible deniability. You can always act dumb. Get some small talk going, find out about an activity that she likes. "Oh ya that sounds fun. I'd love to do that sometime." Th… | /r/seduction | 03/09/18 05:30 PM |
| 1 | How to stop lying to the fans?You know... That might not be a bad thing. | /r/seduction | 03/09/18 05:22 PM |
| 2 | She [28,F] won't stop texting me [26,M]This would be shitting were you eat. When you are day trading or dealing with high risk investments, they say never put in more than you are willing to lose. It's the same thing here. You can date a girl at work, but only if you are willing/ready to lose your job. It's the same kind gamble. I can't believe I'm seeing this shit in The red pill though. "Does she like me?". Who cares? If you want her, assume attraction, do what you need to do and see if you can fuck her. If you already care that mu… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/09/18 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Need to move on from this one"She texted me that she felt the same way about me ('like', apparently) but she knew it couldn't work with distance". So you have your answer right there. You are an orbiter. Plenty of girls like me. I'm a swell fuckin guy. They tell me all the time. I don't expect to fuck most of them. It's very easy for women to keep platonic friendships going without getting emotionally attached while drawing value from them. Hence, the amount of orbiters attractive ones usually have. Once she tells you that … | /r/askTRP | 02/09/18 07:00 PM |
| 6 | Conscious & subconscious attractionMOTHER FUCKER THERE AIN'T NO GOING BACK! YOU IN THIS SHIT FOREVER NOW! FOREVER!! THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!! | /r/TheRedPill | 02/09/18 06:34 AM |
| 6 | Conscious & subconscious attractionIt is a hard truth. And a bitter... pill to swallow ;) I'm slowly evolving too and starting to see this shit first hand. When you read about it at first, you sort of accept it as theory, but figure it's not actually THAT bad. When you start to see it for yourself, you die a little inside. C'est la vie... death, rebirth, growth. To be fair, some girls are nicer to their BBs (and AFs for that matter). They still do what they do though. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/09/18 06:32 AM |
| 7 | Conscious & subconscious attractionThis is what I wanted to say. This "mix of strategy" to attract women is still playing into the BB game. The whole appeal of being AF is that you don't have to play into that game. Freedom. Sure, women might hate you, spit vitriol at you, lack "respect" for you, shame you, etc.... buuuut they'll fuck you with NSA. It beats the shit BBs have to deal with. They REALLY get fucked over by women, in the long run. The idea is to get good at capitalizing on the 5%, as you mentioned, so you can have a l… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/09/18 06:04 AM |
| 7 | Overthinking this I know, but when you’re straddling a guy are you supposed to sit on his crotch?I see what you're saying. You can stay there and grind if you want to. It may or may not be uncomfortable depending on the guy or the position. Start off slow so he can adjust. ***EDIT: If he pushes your hips away at first, don't freak out!!! He's probably not rejecting you. He needs to adjust his now swollen cock from the pitching a tent position (very uncomfortable) to the log under a blanket position.**\* What you want to do is "jack him off" using your crotch. Pretty simple. Once he's adjust… | /r/seduction | 02/09/18 04:00 AM |
| 67 | Women have a different version of realityThis is classic. Thanks for the reminder. AWALT. I had a married women wanting to sleep with me. I could see her starting to spin the story (her hamster) that she was lonely because her provider was busy working his ass off to pay for the nice house she is now enjoying and raising her kids in. I didn't do it; I don't need the drama. But you could see that in an evolutionary context, he (the BB) would be raising and providing for the offspring of an AF. IT'S NEVER THEIR FAULT. You can't expect an… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/09/18 01:33 AM |
| -2 | How do I respond?Assuming OP has no life. "I have nothing better to do than wait for your day off to hang out with you". Ya, red pill as hell... Down vote all you want | /r/askTRP | 01/09/18 05:59 AM |
| 0 | How do I respond?You should never set up a date like that. With only one option. Give her a few options: Are you free <this, that or this day>? or I'm available <these days>. Any of those work for you? You should have a fairly busy schedule/life. If you don't, make it sound like you do: My schedule as little weird this week but I can make these days work. <Give her 2 or 3 options> | /r/askTRP | 01/09/18 05:58 AM |
| 4 | I hate getting ghosted on tinder, so I just usually tell girls to unmatch me if they are done with me, and they seem to have a problem with this.Now that you got responses from a lot of them, and their reluctance to a unmatch you is a salient, you should use this leverage to establish yourself as the buyer. | /r/seduction | 01/09/18 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Perfect example of what not to doOk. I hadn't considered the cruelty. Fair enough. | /r/seduction | 31/08/18 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Perfect example of what not to doOk sorry. I thought it could help if we broke down what's wrong with it. | /r/seduction | 31/08/18 06:36 PM |
| 20 | What do you say to a girl right before kissing them??For women, it's often a matter of turning up the volume knob slowly. It's not a switch. You should be doing kino/emotional escalation that teases her and gets her thinking of that before the kiss. Once that volume knob is up high enough, then you can almost do anything as a lead up to the kiss. I find that once you've played with her hair a bit and touched her neck/face/cheek and she's responded favorably (or not negatively) then she knows it's coming and she'll be fine with it. Provided you've … | /r/seduction | 31/08/18 07:00 AM |
| 2 | What to do when you reject a girl and she talks shit about you to some white knights who come to confront/fight you?97% of guys can't actually fight. And the ones that do know usually aren't interested in fighting outside the ring. It's great. There is always that rare exception though... but odds are in your favor. | /r/askTRP | 31/08/18 12:51 AM |
| 4 | My GF keeps hugging dudes in an overly friendly manner, should I be concerned?Dude you posted about this before and I'll give you the same advice here. This girl sounds like a handful and it sounds like you are ill equipped to handle her. Multiple posts about her is kinda of a clue that you are freaking out. Read: 3% Man by Corey Wayne. No More Mr Nice Guy. This will help you more in the future than any random posts here. The first 1 probably has more practical advice so if you start with that, you might be able to salvage this. | /r/seduction | 30/08/18 07:24 PM |
| 1 | HOW DO YOU PICK UP A GIRL?I BROKE MY BACK. MY BACK IS BROKEN. Well... SPINAL. | /r/seduction | 30/08/18 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Is it always acceptable to hug a girl you recently met infront of her boyfriend?I don't know what you should do. You will have to figure that out. But from the story you just mentioned, it sounds like she is testing you big time. The drunken dude didn't even say or do anything to you or her (according to what you said; are you sure you are not leaving anything out? To justify your inaction to yourself?). Ok. I'm just some dude on the internet. So you can take my advice with a grain of salt. Also, it's very hard for me to see what is going on based on just what you are typin… | /r/seduction | 29/08/18 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Is it always acceptable to hug a girl you recently met infront of her boyfriend?By unreactive I mean don't let it get to you emotionally. At the very least, don't show emotion about it. That doesn't mean you can't do anything or take some kind of action. What you just wrote now about her calling you out on it. She is testing you. Big. Look up shit tests and see if you can determine how you should handle this. | /r/seduction | 29/08/18 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Is it always acceptable to hug a girl you recently met infront of her boyfriend?It's hard to say. Social context and culture is something to consider. If you get butt hurt about this, it's not good though. It could be that because you are the shy guy, they take more liberties and test the waters. It could be that guys just generally like hugging a good looking girl. They do it knowing that's all they're gonna get. You get to finger her with your dick. So you can take comfort in that. Because you mentioned you are nice and quiet, I would say that part of what you are feeling… | /r/seduction | 29/08/18 12:53 PM |
| 6 | Muscular guys, notice women covering their chests around you?I get that too when I have resting asshole face. (Not so much covering their breasts, but the sense that women feel intimidated). I'm not HUGELY muscular, but I'd say more that average. The thing is, women generally like muscular/fit guys, but they don't want some socially uncalibrated muscle head who has this as his only "shtick". You know what I mean. He walks around, expecting to be admired by women and intimidating guys. It just doesn't work because it intimidates women too. So if you have a… | /r/askTRP | 28/08/18 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Consider the bottom 80% - Your competition is patheticCool. I guess we have a different definition of high value women. That's fine. I don't honestly know if there is a correct one. As for a high SMV one, I disagree with you there. I have definitely met some high SMV women that were also smart, interesting and compassionate. They may not be the "9s and 10s" of the club or whatever, but 90% of guys would be falling over themselves to have sex with them. They look good. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Consider the bottom 80% - Your competition is patheticThis is correct. I think people over think SMV. It's SEXUAL market value. That's it. Of course, there are simply high value women; arguably those that are worthy of an LTR. Maybe that's what he was thinking about. A HV woman will have high SMV. A high SMV woman, may or may not have HV. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/18 07:16 PM |
| 15 | Consider the bottom 80% - Your competition is patheticHere's the thing. A fairly attractive "plain Jane" or girl next door, with a nice figure is just attractive, if not more, because of the personality boost. Also, the quality of the sex has usually nothing to do with how attractive she is, and more to do with the chemistry between the two of you. Sure, if a 9 or 10 happens to be into me, I would pursue it of course. But, is it worth the effort for to make that your goal? For me, no. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/18 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Help me with Tinder?Ya pool, park, lake, during a hike or run. Something less blatent then "look at my body". Doing yoga without a shirt. Shit like that. | /r/askTRP | 23/08/18 06:16 PM |
| 12 | Help me with Tinder?A girl sees this and she thinks "loner with no friends, no social skills". She needs to see you in active shots, (sports, hiking, biking, whatever) Social situations: Having fun with friends. (Some female friends = HUGE plus) Show your body off with a beach pic (or something similar. At a park playing Frisbee or some shit), preferable with friends and smiling. Not a bathroom selfie. It's good to have one pic where you're dressed up a bit. Shows that you clean up well. | /r/askTRP | 23/08/18 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guysJust the regular. Challenge your frame. See how much you try to placate. See how butthurt you get. Generally throw shit your way to see how you reply. Just more intense. More personal, and/or more outrageous. | /r/askTRP | 22/08/18 04:22 PM |
| 11 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guysOne thing about tinder and the like too: It's good for women who don't want an LTR, but don't want to sleep around in their social circle due to... reputation concerns. Slut shaming, really. They can easily pick through a catalog of men. Drop huge shit tests right off the bat (legitimately; for their safety, and to make sure they don't waste time with a dud, etc), and next guys with ease. And she can always use plausible deniability to protect her reputation: "I'm trying to meet Mr right, but I … | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 09:16 PM |
| 10 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guyseh.... what? | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 09:07 PM |
| 7 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guys“you can only get laid if you’re white” I never claimed that at all. That's not what the discussion is about. The claim I made is that Tinder is much easier and efficient when you are white. I'd be curious to see your profile, but I understand if you don't want to share it. PM me if you do. I'd like to see what works for non whites. | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 09:01 PM |
| 0 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guysHmm. Ya. I've gotten with good looking white girls (mostly from offline game), but almost always, upon digging a bit, I find out that they have a history of liking non-white guys. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just wish sometimes women would be more up front about their whites only attitude. It would save me a lot of time and wasted effort. Like seriously, they should wear a little "whites only" badge or something. Just so we know not to waste time with them. ;) | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 08:44 PM |
| 8 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guysMy mixed race ass has been able to kiss on the first meeting, but my matches are SUPER low. Like, I can go for a month without a match. Which makes it worse because I then don't bother swiping as much, which means even less matches. So for some guys, it's a " very time-efficient way to get laid " but for others, it's an exercise in feeling scarcity. I think I might cut it out of my life again... | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 08:19 PM |
| -1 | Why Tinder is a waste of time for most guysAre you white and avg or above good looking? | /r/askTRP | 21/08/18 07:44 PM |
| 11 | How did I handle this plate's exclusive ultimatum?OP delivered: he'll give her a thumb alright | /r/askTRP | 16/08/18 02:30 PM |
| 33 | How did I handle this plate's exclusive ultimatum?Ya, that's a big piece missing... This is obviously not the full picture. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/18 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Why Being Mr. Nice Guy Turns Women OffYou can be an incredibly nice guy and be attractive. If it comes from the fact that you enjoy people and interacting with them, women and men will be attracted to that. If on the other hand, you are nice because: - that's the only thing you are able to do - it's a coping mechanism - it's the only way you are able to navigate the social landscape - you do it not to rock the boat and keep the peace - etc Then no, that is not attractive. Fundamentally, women aren't repulse by niceness because it's … | /r/seduction | 15/08/18 06:42 PM |
| 11 | Picking up women should be easy for youImagine that she hates you and you have no chance of ever fuckin her anyway. Let loose. Or if it works better for you, imagine that you are already going home that night with your 10 and don't need her. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/08/18 03:33 PM |
| 3 | The 3 L's of meeting girls that WILL get you laid🦆 off | /r/seduction | 13/08/18 02:13 AM |
| 43 | I was obsessed with learning ‘The Game’ years back when a friend of mine who was always scoring chicks left and right wrote this over to me on text. I saved it on notes exactly 3 years ago and thought I’d share it with you guys.Meh... this is from a natural's perspective, right? They notoriously make bad teachers. He's not wrong, fundamentally, but his whole spiel is based on the assumption that game/pickup is "faking it" or putting on a mask. Really it's about developing a skill set; specifically, man to woman communication. Of course as a beginner, you will need some crutches or tricks. Kinda like training wheels. When you're in deep waters and you don't know how to swim, these little lines or tricks will serve as fl… | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 10:45 PM |
| 13 | Tonight’s tinder date knows I’m leaving her city tomorrow but just texted me saying she’s “not interested in a one night stand”This is almost exactly like "we are not having sex tonight". Some people say it's a shit test, that it's something you need to work around or push through, etc. I don't like to think of it that way. Instead, think of it as you and her cooperating to achieve a win-win situation: sex! So look at it this way: What she is really saying is "I don't want to feel like a slut. Please be receptive to my feelings and help me feel good about this." - reassure her that nothing needs to happen. You're not ex… | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 05:44 PM |
| 2 | I thought I was immune to oneitis...I'm not as old as you but... As an older guy getting into this, this is exactly what I'm afraid might happen to me. I find that generally, when it clicks with younger girls, there is something about her that inspires the fantasy of "starting over". What if I had done things differently? What if things turned out this way and not that way? It's really something about her that reminds you of yourself. Maybe think about that. | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 05:19 PM |
| 4 | I thought I was immune to oneitis...Atta boy | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Is it good idea to approach taller girls?I agree. Tall girls are, generally speaking of course, very approachable. I suspect it's because short girls are seen as more accessible and are approached more often by creeps and shit. | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Is it good idea to approach taller girls?They make toffee that tall? Damn. That's impressive. | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Is it good idea to approach taller girls?In the past five months or so, I've dated girls from cold approach that were my height or taller. Definitely worth it. I suspect tall girls don't get approached as much because it makes it even that much more intimidating. Even for tall guys. So try it. You probably will be surprised. | /r/seduction | 10/08/18 02:21 PM |
| 1 | What would you tell your 17 year old self?Start doing pickup and cold approaches now. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/18 10:31 PM |
| 4 | Have you fucks just ruined every romantic film ever made for me?Ya I have to say I got the same feeling from it. It's playing into BP fantasy, but showing you how unhealthy and pointless it is. Not a movie you walk away from feeling "oh wow, that was great! I believe in true love!". I don't know if that was intentional but... | /r/askTRP | 05/08/18 01:09 AM |
| 6 | Girl approached me but I fucked upWell, maybe she found you attractive but then discovered that you have zero social skills. Girls rarely fuck guys based on looks alone. I mean, there are some guys that are good looking and dumb that girls like to fuck because they don't feel judged by them, but even they probably have some social skills or are at least fun. You have to become more comfortable around women. Talk to them more, approach more, etc. | /r/askTRP | 31/07/18 09:26 PM |
| 1 | For those of you who actually have a job. What do you guys do with your weekends to make life more fulfilling?General Morning gym fun routine (boxing, or something different. Chill, fun, no pressure. Socialize and meet new girls if you can). Daygame. Dates from daygame. Summer: Swimming, hiking, running, camping, surfing, beach, skimboarding. Winter: Skiing, snowshoeing, improve classes, dance classes. Any other kind of class that isn't male only. | /r/askTRP | 31/07/18 04:42 PM |
| 5 | I began meditating in order to move towards banging a ton of women all the time, but now after about 5 months of meditating I am more interested in just finding a girlfriendNigga you mean like tantric sex? That shit is dope AF. | /r/seduction | 31/07/18 01:36 AM |
| 30 | I began meditating in order to move towards banging a ton of women all the time, but now after about 5 months of meditating I am more interested in just finding a girlfriendIs that like Buddhist and shit? | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 08:35 PM |
| 67 | Pulling chicks from Tinder / Dating Apps: A simple guideThis guy pays his taxes. And is likely fiscally responsible. Oh, and fucks. | /r/seduction | 28/07/18 08:55 AM |
| 2 | This old fucker understands gameHe's prolly banging college chicks | /r/seduction | 27/07/18 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Women need to ask men out moreTry just smiling and saying hi. Honestly, it's great if you want to do this, but guys are so unaccustomed to this happening that they'll think "it's a trap". So be prepared for them to be skeptical. | /r/seduction | 27/07/18 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Women need to ask men out moreWhy stop there? "Well... Are you going to insert your penis in me?" | /r/seduction | 27/07/18 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Acting like your not interestedSo abundance. Really, if you've worked on yourself and are confident that you can meet women easily, you will be able to act like this more easily. Faking it at first is difficult. I don't think it's acting like you're not interested. This makes it seem like women are playing games. It's more that you don't act needy. Acting needy is a huge turn off for men and women. | /r/seduction | 25/07/18 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Direct vs indirect approachI can see how it would seem that way. It's hard to come up with written examples out of context. Infield, it's another dynamic. It's not about WHAT you say, it's about where it comes from and how you are trying to connect with the girl. It can come from a place of genuine desire for her, or a place of needing it to work. Some of the shit I've said sounds ridiculous when typed out, but had really good reactions. eg: "Hey don't take this the wrong way but I really like your freckles". The energy, … | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 10:37 PM |
| 2 | Direct vs indirect approachwhy waste time with a girl who doesn't even know what she wants? It's more complicated than that. For girls, attraction is more like a volume knob than a switch. It goes gradually up or down. Sometimes it'll go all the way up right quick... most often, it will go down fast if you do something she finds unattractive. In regards to direct: you often get an emotional spike right off the bat in daygame, but you still have to build attraction over the course of the interaction, eventual date or whate… | /r/seduction | 24/07/18 10:16 PM |
| 22 | How did you overcome Approach Anxiety?Like anything else: exposure. So you keep doing it. Really, there is no secret. One tip: Try to turn that fear of getting rejected into an excitement about seeing what will happen. Good luck. | /r/seduction | 20/07/18 06:18 PM |
| 5 | 24 Techniques and Mindsets that Immediately Attract FemalesI agree. Complete ass sausage. It's fundamentally wrong because at its core, it's exactly that: the Zoolander parody. Thinking that you can attract women passively, by looking "just right". Ie, in a feminine way. In reality, you attract women by what you do, and how you do it. What you say to her and how. How you behave socially.The kind of effect you have on her. Most women/people will see this posturing for what it is; insecure, dumb bullshit. Oh ya, and that lanes shit. Fuck that's annoying. … | /r/seduction | 17/07/18 08:21 AM |
| 9 | 24 Techniques and Mindsets that Immediately Attract FemalesYou are reading a post for geeks who think that you can use a bunch of hacks to look Alpha and get girls wet. | /r/seduction | 17/07/18 08:03 AM |
| 2 | 24 Techniques and Mindsets that Immediately Attract FemalesJesus dick shit. How about do whatever the fuck you want and be care free and happy. That will attract a lot more eh... Females. Worrying about all this petty shit will make you stifled and in your own head. Check out Jeff Cavalier on you tube for improved posture. Some magic chin tilt bullshit isn't gonna fix any thing. | /r/seduction | 17/07/18 08:01 AM |
| 18 | What to do when a girl smiles + stares while walking past you ? (19 M )She is saying "come talk to me," and that's what you should do. Holding eye contact would be better. Don't over think it though, the most important thing is to talk to her. Either right there, or at the next opportunity. Don't wait too long. Smiling back is good. Acknowledging her but remaining unreactive is usually better, as it can make her more attracted/interested. Again, smiling and direct eye contact is the clearest and strongest IOI in my opinion. All you have to do is talk to her. She wi… | /r/seduction | 16/07/18 04:26 PM |
| 99 | What to do when other guys start trying to dance with the girl youre dancing with and shes open to it?Just act like you can walk away at any time and be ready to do so. What you did was probably fine. You shouldn't act angry or butt hurt or judgmental. Just... Meh. Whatever. There are plenty of good looking girls. Not that many hot AND interesting ones though. It depends what you are looking for too. If just to get laid, then you acted appropriately and probably still had a chance to pull her. There's no real loyalty for a girl in a club environment. So there's that to take into consideration to… | /r/seduction | 16/07/18 04:34 AM |
| 3 | How do you guys stop a girl when doing daygame?It's sounds like you've done this before. I have and I 100% agree with what your putting down. I often see top rated comments here that make me wonder. Without experience, I can see how a lot of advice would seem like it just "makes sense" and get upvoted. So back to the first rule: if you want to learn, then go out there and do it. The thing that seems odd to me about the comment you replied to is that it seems to work under the assumption that hot girls get approached in the daytime all the ti… | /r/seduction | 15/07/18 08:09 PM |
| 3 | What a gay guy hitting on me taught me about seduction.I think you are projecting a lot of your feelings into the interactions. I understand why you would feel that because there has been so much male shaming in our society. That being said, one of the most fundamental rules of game is "what you feel; she feels". If you come from a place of positive emotions, you will see that most girls will react positively when you show intent. | /r/seduction | 13/07/18 03:32 PM |
| 4 | What a gay guy hitting on me taught me about seduction.You could even kiss another man's penis. Edit: it's a Big Mouth reference motha fuckas | /r/seduction | 13/07/18 03:26 PM |
| 5 | What a gay guy hitting on me taught me about seduction.I've had a gay dude hit on me and escalate early in the interaction. And you know what, I was fine with that. It was just a small touch on the arm, enough to let me know where he was coming from and I could let him know straight away that that's not what I was looking for. I think girls would appreciate the same as long as 1- the escalation is calibrated and appropriate for a first touch. 2- consider that verbal intent is probably enough in most cases. "Those pink pants really look good on you. … | /r/seduction | 13/07/18 03:24 PM |
| 8 | If a girl keeps asking me if im a virgin and keeps a playful teasing way of asking if im a virgin . Is that an IOI?She wants to fuck. You have to find a place where you guys be can be alone, and come up with an excuse for you two to go there. Any weak ass excuse will do since it sounds like she's down. Once you're alone, start slow. Be patient. Good luck. | /r/seduction | 07/07/18 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Approaching two girlsThis is pickup 101. Always acknowledge the friend(s). It's not just a matter of "gaming" but a matter of basic social skills. If he had done that (or rather, BEEN socially calibrated) he could have still said what he said but in a different way. Like "To me, you are the most beautiful woman in the club," or whatever. This might have been what he meant but it sounds like this guy obviously lacks social skills and is trying pickup as a technique rather than a social skill set. | /r/seduction | 07/07/18 05:28 PM |
| 7 | What are th chances of being hit on by a girl? And how to raise those chances ?Even then, they will just give more overt IOIs. They won't approach you. The closest I've ever had to girls approaching me is the girl just looking at me smiling and waiting for me to come over. That's basically a female "approach". Edit: I've had really drunk, ugly or old women actually approach me. If you've had desirable women approach you, you must have had insane social proof. | /r/seduction | 06/07/18 08:41 PM |
| 4 | Best reasons to give her the excuse to come over to your place?Come over to my place and we can fuck. It's gonna be really fun! :D Reverse plausible deniability. It's what the kids are doing now. New game. EDIT: My comment was obviously a joke, but in all seriousness, this is what the sub-communication should be. It should be a win-win for you and the girl. No amount of plausible deniability, or techniques is going to make it happen. Edit2: ok... there are other ways to make it happen without making it a win win, but they are not exactly ethical. Not what t… | /r/seduction | 06/07/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | DM out of nowhere. Need advice!Maybe just talk to her like a human. Figure out why she's interested all of a sudden. Women don't generally message guys out of the blue... After one year too... It seems a little odd but who knows. Maybe she was genuinely flattered and liked your video and everything but was more interested in someone else at the time. No clue though. I think straight forward communication will get you answers... Edit: like someone else mentioned, let her do a bit of work. Don't make yourself too available. She… | /r/seduction | 06/07/18 08:22 PM |
| 26 | not giving a shit when girls reject you will make you more attractive to girls and rejected lessApproach more | /r/seduction | 05/07/18 04:20 PM |
| 12 | Do girls/women usually fix their appearance when attracted to you?Indicators of Interest (IOIs) are a thing. But they are very hard to read accurately. And they often happen subconsciously. It could mean that she is attracted to you on some level, but would never act on it. Maybe she'll flirt and that's it. Maybe she won't. Maybe she was never really attracted but decided to fix her hair. But you'll never know until you approach. I found the only reliable IOI is if she smiles directly at you and/or makes direct eye contact and holds for a second or so. Even th… | /r/seduction | 04/07/18 10:03 PM |
| 4 | I approached a 9 today and got her number!Yup. I've seen middle aged, 5'8'', balding guys with 9s. On paper, hot chicks would never go for these guys. Online: 0 chance. In person: they get caught up in his world. True confidence (humble and genuine), a sense of humor, etc. It's so much about attitude. Of course, these guys mostly take care of themselves too, so they don't look like the typical middle aged man, but still. "Game" is just about learning to believe in yourself. At first, it helps to have techniques and scripts to give you s… | /r/seduction | 03/07/18 05:48 PM |
| 3 | I approached a 9 today and got her number!if you're confident, have a strong jaw, 6'2 and are ripped, ya it can work. The only way to be confident taking to women is to approach a lot. The reason 6'2'' handsome guys make it look so easy is because they have lots of positive reference experiences from early on. They were "born rich". But you can work for it. It's painful, but possible. Plus, when those guys lose their swagger for whatever reason, it's life shattering. If you are a self made "millionaire", you can build yourself back up f… | /r/seduction | 03/07/18 03:56 PM |
| 1 | What should you say when girls say that they "aren't into coffee", when I ask to hangout?It's not so much what you say it's the intent and attitude behind it. "I'll take you out" works well for me. I guess that implies you're paying. It might be more "providerish" as you say, but... I dunno. Asking a girl out and then letting her pay seems a bit socially uncalibrated to me. Being labeled a provider has to do with more than just that. Like buying expensive meals, gifts, the vibe you give off, or buying her a drink at a bar before she even knows you as a way of keeping her attention, … | /r/seduction | 30/06/18 05:47 PM |
| 11 | Date Asked if She Could Bring a FriendSo this girl (let’s call her A) I’ve been briefly seeing What does this mean? Have you fucked? Kissed? Does she know you guys are "seeing each other"? If she is bringing a friend on a date before you guys have fucked, then that would absolutely destroy the sexual tension no? Am I wrong here? That's a bad sign to me. Either means she is not interested, or doesn't see you as a potential sexual partner. Also, how old are you all? Without knowing much about the situation, it almost sounds like somet… | /r/seduction | 30/06/18 05:38 PM |
| 1 | What should you say when girls say that they "aren't into coffee", when I ask to hangout?Sure. I like "I'll take you out for a drink" personally | /r/seduction | 30/06/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What should you say when girls say that they "aren't into coffee", when I ask to hangout?It's a drink. It's a cocky, confident line. It can work but it depends on her/you/what the vibe is. You have to have that confidence and playfulness tho. Try it if you want. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 11:07 PM |
| 1 | 52, getting my shit together after a long time in a dark pit, and becoming successful again. Too much maybe... (Warning: ramble)Pepper spray Shit test | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 11:02 PM |
| 1 | 52, getting my shit together after a long time in a dark pit, and becoming successful again. Too much maybe... (Warning: ramble)Restraining order Shit test. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 11:02 PM |
| 1 | 52, getting my shit together after a long time in a dark pit, and becoming successful again. Too much maybe... (Warning: ramble)"Stop! Help! HELP!" Shit test | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 11:01 PM |
| 4 | What should you say when girls say that they "aren't into coffee", when I ask to hangout?Alright, I'll buy you an old fashioned then. Wear a cute dress. EDIT: If you've never met the girl IRL, be careful though. I would just go with "Fine, I'll buy you a drink then. What days are you free this week/weekend/whatever?" Depends on what the vibe is I guess. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 10:31 PM |
| 2 | There's This Girl In My Class, Should I Ask Her Out Now Or Wait Until The Semester Has Ended?2-3 conversations and snapchat. That's fine I guess but what was the nature of the interactions? Does she know it's a man to woman thing? Was there flirting, sexual tension, anything like that? If not, you're just shooting in the dark. It's better to ask a girl out face to face and ask for her info after. If she's in the least bit attractive, she'll have tons of guys declare that they think she's cute and "would you like to go out sometime" to her over text. It's weak as shit. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Text Game Advice - Flake?It's more complicated than that. If you are getting #s from a lot of girls, you'll find that the flake rate is SUPER high. Even with good interactions where they offered you their number. There is definitely an art to texting. I haven't found exactly what works yet... but there is a way to make her recall the emotions she felt in the moment when she decided to give you her number. It could be simple call backs to the interaction, and also just trying to say things that might help her recall what… | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 07:44 PM |
| 5 | 52, getting my shit together after a long time in a dark pit, and becoming successful again. Too much maybe... (Warning: ramble)"Age does not matter. " I've had 2 girls recently tell me I was too old for them (I'm 38), while I've got a 25 yo chasing me. I think if she's not attracted, then age is a convenient excuse. But in the end, ya, age doesn't really matter for a lot of girls. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 05:11 PM |
| 23 | Girl didnt sleep with me cause I was a virgin and was too nice i guess.If it helps in the future, I would go with something like: " Honestly im not trying to make my first a super big deal. Im not trying to fall in love before i sleep with a girl. I just want it to be consensual fun and i want her to legitimately be attracted to me. " "I like you because ____. Honestly, you being my first would be special for me." Then fuck her brains out. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 04:49 PM |
| 2 | How do you consistently have multiple sexual relationships at the same time?This is much better advice, honestly. It sounds like this guy actually has experience with women. You can be honest with women without saying things directly and explicitly. In fact, they PREFER it that way. It's like the first rule of seduction. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 04:37 PM |
| 3 | How do you consistently have multiple sexual relationships at the same time?You're not doing this for validation Everyone knows this, but it's extremely difficult to put in practice. It requires deep, deep, DEEP work and self improvement. I honestly think PUA/seduction is a good path in that direction for most guys. | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 04:33 PM |
| 54 | Girl didnt sleep with me cause I was a virgin and was too nice i guess.It sounds like she might actually like you. But, she may have some issues. She expressed that she didn't feel worthy enough to be your first. I think you need to be honest with her: " Honestly im not trying to make my first time special. Im not trying to fall in love before i sleep with a girl. I just want it to be consensual and i want her to legitimately be attracted to me. " Tell her that, but add something that you genuinely like about her. Make HER feel a little special. EDIT: "Oh shit, I j… | /r/seduction | 29/06/18 04:23 PM |
| 3 | How would you respond to a sudden “Let’s have sex”Even this guy knows what to do. | /r/seduction | 28/06/18 09:47 PM |
| 5 | Beach gameGames are the best icebreakers. This works in bars too. You can pretend to have an argument about the rules of the game with your buddy and ask a girl her opinion. It gives girls an excuse to open you too. Similar to peacocking but better. | /r/seduction | 28/06/18 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Does not breaking eye contact first mean anything, like strength or creepiness?There are too many different situations involving eye contact to give one answer. But in the most common situation, when you first make eye contact with a girl you've never met, NEVER break eye contact first. You're done if you do. I have to work on this actually. We men tend to want to break eye contact with random women we've never met because we don't want to make them uncomfortable, creep them out, make them feel unsafe, etc. Unfortunately, it comes off as submissive, and her lizard brain ca… | /r/seduction | 28/06/18 07:49 PM |
| 8 | Just asked a girl out. She also also said she had a boyfriend. But she also said I was brave for trying :)"She said I was brave for trying" That's good. They will often say that when you are starting out. I guess it shows that you are nervous. It's all good. It means you thought she was attractive, and you put yourself out there. Nothing wrong with that at all. Most guys just leer (take mental pictures) or smile awkwardly (looking for rapport). "Oh ok." Try "oh that's ok :)" and keep going. I know it feels really awkward at first, because you see the BF response as a rejection and that you should en… | /r/seduction | 28/06/18 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Just asked a girl out. She also also said she had a boyfriend. But she also said I was brave for trying :)if you say the classic pickup lines to counter the boyfriend wall, you will pass as a tryhard. I get what you're saying, but when the level of attraction is high, there are ways around it... it's a matter of your personal ethics too, so... ya. It doesn't help to think of it as a BF wall that is an objective that you need to get around though. It's more about continuing to pump her emotions and making a bunch of small, little decisions on her behalf so she doesn't have to; making it "your fault",… | /r/seduction | 28/06/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | She said, "We're not going to have sex," Three Times. I Couldn't Believe What Happened NextIf it were really as good as you think, then she would have encouraged another shot for you. You passing it up only would have made the tension rise for her. That is an overly confident assessment. It's what you would think on paper. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work like that. Women can be unforgiving when they expect you to fuck them and you don't. Some anyway, and depending on the context/what kind of sexual prospect they view you as. | /r/seduction | 26/06/18 04:40 PM |
| 2 | She said, "We're not going to have sex," Three Times. I Couldn't Believe What Happened NextYou're right: this is overly negative thinking. I did try again but the moment had passed and it didn't go further then the second date. There were other factors at play so "losing the girl" is not the best way for me to have phrased it. It had more to do with the context of the post and what could have been: a special, passionate night, where sex would have been an amazing win for the both of us. My inability to read the situation prevented this from happening. | /r/seduction | 26/06/18 03:19 PM |
| 7 | She said, "We're not going to have sex," Three Times. I Couldn't Believe What Happened NextOn the surface, having a girl tell you, “We’re not going to have sex,” is one of the worst things that she could say (unless you’re a celibate monk, in which case you should probably stop reading this), but in actuality, it’s one of the best things she could say. I wish I would have known (and actually believed this) about 2 months ago. I lost a girl that was totally DTF. We had amazing chemistry too and it would have been amazing. Like the AFC that I was at the time, I took her words at face va… | /r/seduction | 26/06/18 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Starting and holding a sexual subject during a conversationI think it's a bad mindset to start thinking of bringing up sexual topics as a tactic. Rather, sexuality and self expression is something that you have to learn to be comfortable with. There's no right time to bring up sex. At the same time there's always a right time for it because it's always on people's mind. So you just do it. It's the level of comfort that you have and the emotions behind it that matter the most. How do you work on deep seated issues of a psyco sexual nature? Expensive ther… | /r/seduction | 23/06/18 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Starting and holding a sexual subject during a conversationYes. Mark Manson and Julien Blanc are basically saying the same thing. It's just that Manson's version is more palatable for the mainstream. | /r/seduction | 23/06/18 03:35 PM |
| 1 | How to apply "How To Be a 3% Man" principles to college/informal environment?As long as she knows you are interested in her. IE, you have shown intent already. If not, then I can see that this might be more of a platonic thing. Generally, girls probably like "hang out" since it doesn't come with any expectations, and they hate when guys put expectations on them or the situation. | /r/seduction | 20/06/18 04:29 PM |
| 1 | How to apply "How To Be a 3% Man" principles to college/informal environment?Maybe the former were girls that had a low attraction level anyways Or they may have been validation seeking and it wouldn't have gotten much past Snapchat. It's all about the streaks... Just apply the principles. If she is Snapchatting you constantly, us it to keep the banter at a minimum, and move the conversation towards setting up a date. | /r/seduction | 20/06/18 04:26 PM |
| 1 | How to apply "How To Be a 3% Man" principles to college/informal environment?The principles can be applied to texting instead of calling. No problem there. As far as dates go, why don't you try it? Actually ask a girl if you can take her out sometime for a drink or something fun and goofy, without using the word "date". If you word it in a way that you are signifying fun, care free, with a hint of "sex might happen", then it might not come across as so serious. | /r/seduction | 20/06/18 04:23 PM |
| 4 | Is it better to keep escalating/pursuing until you get a hard no?You are doing it all wrong. I know, it's so easy for me to say from here but hey, that's why we come here for advice no? When you are wrapped up in the situation, it's hard to see clearly. You are overly concerned with how she is feeling and are afraid of making the wrong move. You have to play to win instead of playing not to lose. So assume attraction, make her react to you and not the other way around, just generally go for it without the fear of losing her. It's hard to give specific advice … | /r/seduction | 20/06/18 04:16 PM |
| 4 | Cold approaching is awesomeI haven't tested this very well myself, but the idea is that if you stay, you aren't the guy who got the number and ran. If you stay and are just chill and normal (build rapport), you are giving her the chance to justify to herself that she made the right decision. Think of it like buyer's remorse. If the sales person is like "ok bye!" and took off for his next sale, as soon as you made a big purchase, you'd be second guessing yourself. You might even change your mind and ask for a refund. | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 07:00 PM |
| 6 | Cold approaching is awesomeAh I see. Ya, it's hard to say if a girl blushing means she's attracted, nervous, excited, embarrassed, or any combination of. Still, stirring up emotions is better than the interaction being flat. Try to stay in the interaction after you get the number and calm things down a bit. | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 06:33 PM |
| 10 | Cold approaching is awesomeGood job! She gave her number but I saw her expression , she was turning red and had some slip up already backing out. What do you mean by this? Also, don't sweat it if she doesn't text back. The flake rate after getting numbers is super high. You could think it's an amazing interaction, and you'll never hear from her again. Other times, it seems like it's a bit flat, and you end up going on a date. Just how it is. | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do I keep blanking out after "I saw you and thought you were pretty"NP. Don't get too caught up with direct vs indirect at first. It's generally better to go direct (showing intent) for beginners, but some advance guys still do direct (James Marshall). I'd say it's context specific too. Like if you're in a bar or club, you don't really have to go direct because she knows why the fuck you're there. So a "Hi how's it going?" with the right emotions behind it is often just fine, as long as you can follow up. In daygame, maybe direct is better. But again, generally … | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Why do girls give out their number to guys if they don’t actually have any intentions with them?the person who approaches can be very charming/charismatic but once that state has dwindled the girl is no longer interested. This is very real. It can be described as high buying temperature (she buys in by giving you her number), followed by buyer's regret once the emotions have worn off. That's why it's better to stay in the interaction after she gives you the number and keep it going for a bit. Even better, try for the instadate if possible. If you are both free in the moment, go for a quick… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Why do girls give out their number to guys if they don’t actually have any intentions with them?I know this is a legitimate reason, but I can't help but feel "lied to" sometimes. Like, I generally know if the interaction was so-so and that she is likely to just flake/ignore/ghost. But sometimes, I feel like it's a really good interaction and that there's chemistry and... nothing. Oh well. I get it though. I understand why girls feel pressure to be nice. At least some girls are cool enough to text back and just come up with an excuse, such as "it's not the right time for me to date". As a g… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 03:52 AM |
| 4 | Why do I keep blanking out after "I saw you and thought you were pretty"Instead of trying to think of what to say, try to read what she is feeling and go from there. You can always try to follow up with "I just really wanted to meet you. What's your name?". It really doesn't matter much what you say, it's more the emotion behind it. You don't want to compliment a girl if that's all you have to say. Like, "you look pretty", and then wait for a reaction and expect her to invest in the conversation. You have to keep it going for a while. Try to find out a bit about her… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 03:42 AM |
| 1 | How to ask for her number when I see a girl I know on the streetsEDIT: Don't ask her for her number to then ask her to hang out. Ask her out in person, then the number follows as a matter of logistics. Be forward. "Listen Jane, I'd love to take you out for a drink/coffee/whatever sometime" Strong eye contact so she knows what's up. "Are you free sometime this weekend?" Or whenever. No guys do this, and she will respect the hell out of you for it. Don't pussy foot. If she refuses, it's likely that she wasn't attracted to you in the first place and no amount of… | /r/seduction | 15/06/18 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Shit test?We hit it off pretty well i could tell she was into me, so much so she kept coming back to talk to me And instead of flirting with her and escalating in the moment (touching, maybe a kiss, hell, maybe even fucking her), you chose to try to start something over text the next day. This is the mistake a lot of guys make. They are not truly comfortable with a woman and try to "pause her", take a break to regroup, and try again later. It's a complete turn off for women. You could have sparked somethi… | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 05:00 PM |
| 1 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?Precisely this. People will talk about the kind of vibe you give off. This is true. But to put it into more practical terms, you have to show her that you are willing to take a risk and make things sexual to avoid being just a friend. Making it sexual, or man to woman, involves how you look at her (prolonged eye contact), flirting, touching, sexual topics, showing her you are a sexual person. If you take no risks, you get no reward. In fact it's worse; girls will "punish" you this by categorizin… | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Need help getting past LMRAs bitter as it is, this is the truth. You aren't her therapist and you deserve a healthy sex life. She does too, and will have to work out these issues herself. Why would you want a relationship/LTR with her anyway? Doesn't sound fun at all. BTW: This is NOT LMR. | /r/seduction | 11/06/18 05:23 PM |
| -3 | I don’t Usually go for guys like you - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 7Funny that you mention that. One of them was aware and mention this challenge to me. My reply is the same to you as another similar comment: "Hello fellow Reddit user. Information can spread outside of direct contact and word of mouth. YouTube videos, blogs, Reddit posts, could catch like wildfire and spread across public consciousness unpredictably. " It's not like every guy had the balls/stupidity/whatever to go around and do those obnoxious prank videos. But it caught on enough for everyone t… | /r/seduction | 10/06/18 04:56 PM |
| -2 | I don’t Usually go for guys like you - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 7Hello fellow Reddit user. Information can spread outside of direct contact and word of mouth. YouTube videos, blogs, Reddit posts, could catch like wildfire and spread across public consciousness unpredictably. | /r/seduction | 10/06/18 04:51 PM |
| 35 | I don’t Usually go for guys like you - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 7I feel like this kinda shit is ruining openers for those of us who actually want to get laid. Telling women about a challenge, blog, etc. It's ruining it because it's externalizing the whole motivation behind the approach. It's taking all the POWER away from a cold approach, because the reason a CA is so ballsy and potentially highly attractive to a woman is precisely because of the sexual intent behind it. The whole fun (for her as well) is leading a woman from saying "hello" to her on the stre… | /r/seduction | 10/06/18 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstreamI think you might be right. I've been giving off bad vibes lately and getting negative reactions... I think this is it. | /r/seduction | 07/06/18 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstreamMy background is that I'm an average looking guy that had decent social skills. I was never good with women though. You may have to work harder, but I doubt the path will look much different. You might hear of different tactics that are basically pickup with training wheels. If your ego can handle it, just do the real thing instead. It's gonna be hard. I felt like a total loser at times. But that's the nature of true change. | /r/seduction | 07/06/18 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstreamIndirectly?! More like directly and explicitly! | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstreamJust lose the PUA mindset behind it. Nah. It's just a term. Whatever. I agree, women are attracted to the confidence it takes to cold approach, and that not many men can do this. This is good, and might get you a positive response, a phone number, even a date. But the art of pickup/seduction whatever you want to call it, goes way deeper than that. You have to understand a lot more about how women think and what they feel to be able to make them comfortable with having sex with you (outside of th… | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 09:42 PM |
| 1 | I was told that when it comes to online dating, I should comment on something on their profile. Is this true?Yep. That's why I said you're fucked unless you move to one. Sorry. | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 09:26 PM |
| 5 | Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstreamLikely, the author is adopting the mainstream idea about women's sexuality. She is essentially white knighting. That is, the only respectable way a women can have sex is in the context of a"proper" long term relationship. So of she is up for fast sex, or sex outside of an LTR, then she must be a slut. This is what society labels the parts of women's sexuality that we deem unacceptable. So in this case, instead of "victim blaming" it's easy to appeal to the idea that the evil PUA is tricking/dupi… | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 09:18 PM |
| 1 | I was told that when it comes to online dating, I should comment on something on their profile. Is this true?That sucks. Sorry. You're kinda fucked unless you move to a big(ger) city. If you want to make meeting and being good with women a priority in your life, then you are going to have to make that a priority in your life. | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 09:07 PM |
| 1 | I was told that when it comes to online dating, I should comment on something on their profile. Is this true?Nothing really works on Tinder or online dating. If the girl happens to choose you, then it really doesn't matter what you say (within reason). With this platform, girls are overwhelmed with choice, and it panders to their fickle BS. You could be disqualified for pretty much any innocuous comment. "This guy likes pepperoni pizza. BASIC! Unmatch". There's no way to truly "win" at these games. What I would normally recommend is saying things that are polarizing. If she's into your sense of humor, … | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 07:42 PM |
| 9 | Stop using Tinder/Dating appsTinder for a guy is like putting your name in a fuck lottery and hoping to get lucky. It's much more useful to learn to become proactive in life. With women and everything else. | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 07:10 PM |
| 3 | Rejection still hurts...wtf?!Male expressing honest sexual interest in the work place: sexual harassment. Female expressing false sexual interest for favors in the work place: you go girl! The more you explore pickup, the more one realizes that mainstream values, including false feminism, should be rejected, destroyed, rebuilt. True feminism has to do with real women's liberation. Sexual and otherwise. Personally, I'm mostly concerned with sexual, but still... | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 04:00 PM |
| 3 | Rejection still hurts...wtf?!SHE approached YOU about wanting to get together? What kind of networking event? Sounds to me like she was flirty with you because she wanted something from you. | /r/seduction | 06/06/18 01:12 AM |
| 1 | What's too young?I feel you. I know why you are being downvoted. This sub has turned into main stream, Mark Manson, watered down shit. It's politically correct game; ie no game. ie, AFC game. PM me and I'll see if I can get you on the real sub. | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 11:15 PM |
| 1 | What's too young?The faster you abandon the idea that there are rules in life, the faster your game will improve. Obviously, there are hard laws, some of which exist for good reason. But you don't need to add any more barriers to your growth and existence. If the OP is feeling something with this girl, and there is potential for 2 individuals connecting, then he should go for it. As long as he stays within the law for his location. Most 18 year olds aren't emotionally up there with most 24 years olds. Besides, t… | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 11:10 PM |
| 2 | What's too young?She said she turns 18 sometime this month. Then joking suggested to ask her out then. If this is accurate, she's VERY interested. Just do it and learn from the experience yourself, instead of asking strangers on reddit. Take her out now, actually! You can wait for the sex if you need to. | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 11:00 PM |
| 6 | Asking a girl out in Front of her Colleagues - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 3I don't think it's that necessarily. More mature women tend to appreciate the balls it takes for a guy to do that. Younger women, in GENERAL, are less aware. Being younger, they may also be more black and white in their thinking. A hard yes or no. They also may not have the tools to handle this kind of social situation. So they just bail. | /r/seduction | 05/06/18 05:15 PM |
| 2 | I did my first cold approach and it was f*ing awesomeYes. The goal is not to Get The Number. The goal is to tell her you like her, chat her up a little bit to get to know a bit about her. Hopefully, she will want to know a bit about you too, if she's interested. You build a bit of a connection, and the idea is that you are interested in seeing each other again, as man to woman. Date, drinks, whatever. The number follows, and is just a technicality. The get to know you part is less serious, more playfully and light. You are building an emotional co… | /r/seduction | 03/06/18 06:10 PM |
| 0 | My #1 go to plan for an awesome 2nd date!So the guy who won the keys to your heart was the one who chose just the right toppings? This sounds completely ridiculous. Rom-com level shit. | /r/seduction | 02/06/18 06:32 PM |
| 6 | Want Pussy? Guess What...You’re in SalesThis is kinda old school. New PUA (or whatever) is more about marketing than sales. Social proof, inner game, etc. But I agree, you need to understand a lot of various things about human behavior to be good at pick up. Sales being one of them. Good write up! Push pull is something I struggle to make more natural. For me, pushing comes in the form of challenging the girl on her ideas and why she thinks what she thinks. Also, good ol fashion teasing. This is really valuable. It shows that you aren… | /r/seduction | 01/06/18 10:24 PM |
| 4 | 👩❤️💋👨3 Ways Men Ruin First Dates👩❤️💋👨I agree with you in principle, but so many times I've been turned off by a girl who was just WAY too into me for no apparent reason. If she looked like a model, I might be OK with it, but when she looks cute but not spectacular... meh. We humans are petty that way. This was when I was much younger though. Now that I am more secure with myself, I might not care as much; I'd be up for a good time without worrying about my value going down. | /r/seduction | 01/06/18 08:30 PM |
| 13 | My #1 go to plan for an awesome 2nd date!This guy kneads | /r/seduction | 01/06/18 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Probably got rejected, how to reactWhat? Text? What did you send and what was the reply? | /r/seduction | 01/06/18 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Do you have an "imaginary audience" that is always following you around and judging you? This feeling that we are always being watched can become a great source of social anxiety and insecurity.I tried to talk to a girl to see if we connected. Hopefully, so her and I can fuck at some point. I"M SORRY!!!! OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE? PLEASE FORGIVE ME!!!! | /r/seduction | 31/05/18 11:05 PM |
| 10 | Do you have an "imaginary audience" that is always following you around and judging you? This feeling that we are always being watched can become a great source of social anxiety and insecurity.This is often a big factor in approach anxiety and giving off bad vibes in general. It's brought about by the fact that you might be in your head, thinking you are "running game/doing weird and shady things" while out during day or night game. Once you feel like you are operating outside the norms of society, you often imagine this audience. Like everyone is watching you and you'll be found out; "Hey everyone! Look at this guy! He's doing game/pickup!". If you were just a guy minding your own bu… | /r/seduction | 31/05/18 11:02 PM |
| 23 | Finally said “Fuck it!”I once gave a waitress my number & a 60% tip. Here, have some gold on me. Dude, stop throwing your money around at everyone :P | /r/seduction | 27/05/18 06:50 AM |
| 7 | Finally said “Fuck it!”Once in how many times? I like this attitude. Always. Be. Closing. I really like it overall, but I'm wondering if there's a way to tweak this a bit to get better results. You've got a statement of empathy, emotional spike (joke), and the proposition. I'm wondering if you could get some sort of investment on her part. Like a way to make her think she worked for your number a little bit. Even if it's some sort of token gesture. | /r/seduction | 27/05/18 06:47 AM |
| 3 | How To Text Girls -- Done For You (With Examples!!)Hey what's up? I totally agree. Just to add to this a bit: women's attraction is a complex thing. The average individual, man or woman, understands it poorly. | /r/seduction | 27/05/18 12:53 AM |
| 19 | I turned down a girl who wanted to fuck meI agree with this. I mean, not to take away anything from OP. Everything he said was great. But this sounds to me like avoidance. He gained all this traction in his life by stopping to give a fuck about sex and concentrating on his passion. As often happens, this led to opportunities for sex. He chose to avoid it to keep that positive motion going and as a way to avoid all those negative feelings that he has from all the negative reference experiences he had when he was trying to get sex. Essent… | /r/seduction | 22/05/18 10:10 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone followed a graded action plan based on Mark Manson's Models?I look at women all the same. A dangerous brain that I need to find out if it's a safe, likable brain. Love it! Ok, I will try this attitude :) | /r/seduction | 14/05/18 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Do men like being asked out or pursued by women?It could be attractive, depending on how it's done. If it isn't, we'll just take the validation and say no thank you. "How do you make it work?", you might ask. Welcome to the world of men... | /r/seduction | 14/05/18 08:05 PM |
| 4 | Why do I only attract girls that I am not interested in?Because you don't put her on a pedestal and she feels like she needs to work for you a bit. This make you appear higher value than her. You are treating her normally, and not saying dumb shit to try to impress her or make her like you. You are not being a complete chode that will bend over backwards to give her anything she wants and be agreeable; you are a real person with boundaries. You are freely expressing yourself without fear of rejection. The list goes on and on. Game is essentially goin… | /r/seduction | 14/05/18 03:49 AM |
| 1 | What to do when your interests are occupied by men only?If you want to attract women, you will have to start to understand them a bit better. I'm NOT saying follow main stream advice about getting in touch with your feminine side or some bullshit. I am saying that maybe getting involved in activities that interest women will get you interacting with more women and gaining more social experience with them. You might have limited time and this might take away from your other interests. But if you want to make meeting women a priority in your life, then… | /r/seduction | 14/05/18 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Remember. Give her time to reply. Infinite patience. I sent a message asking her what day works for her for dinner. I didn’t even get an acknowledgement text. But I did 3 days later...EDIT: as long as you are actively creating more options for yourself and not hoping that it will work for that one girl. | /r/seduction | 13/05/18 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Remember. Give her time to reply. Infinite patience. I sent a message asking her what day works for her for dinner. I didn’t even get an acknowledgement text. But I did 3 days later...I don't see anything wrong with that at all. It's just sad when guys are focused on only one girl, and she has multiple options. They may be second, third, forth down the list, or maybe just barely a blip on her radar. | /r/seduction | 13/05/18 11:40 PM |
| 4 | Remember. Give her time to reply. Infinite patience. I sent a message asking her what day works for her for dinner. I didn’t even get an acknowledgement text. But I did 3 days later...In the dating world... I know I would give my second, third options much less thought about replying until things are sorted out with my first option. I know women do the same. That's just how it is. No judgment. | /r/seduction | 11/05/18 02:35 PM |
| 33 | Remember. Give her time to reply. Infinite patience. I sent a message asking her what day works for her for dinner. I didn’t even get an acknowledgement text. But I did 3 days later...Likely she's considering her options. OP was probably not the first. It may still work out, but at least he has the right attitude. Increase his options. | /r/seduction | 10/05/18 08:08 PM |
| 6 | Being friendzoned when I only wanted to be friends...I've had this happen before too. Friend zoned by a chick that I wasn't even attracted too. It made me feel negatively towards her to be honest. I had never made any moves, obviously, so I'm not sure why she felt the need to do this, but I never really got over it. So I stopped hanging out with her. To be honest, it may have been an ego blow. I guess I considered myself a league above her. Beyond that, the fact that she felt the need to do this made me think that she thought I had ulterior motive… | /r/seduction | 07/05/18 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Some of the best pick up artists lost their virginity at a late age. Mystery lost his virginity when he was 21.I lost my virginity fairly late, at about 19. It only happened when I started absolutely not giving a fuck and honestly expressed myself, and who I was. I started to be in the moment and cherished every moment as a scene in MY life. I put the burden on others to like me, rather than me trying to be likable. All of a sudden, girls liked me. Go figure. | /r/seduction | 06/05/18 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Any men over 40 still doing this?Nice. I find the same about women in their 20s. Just a lot easier in some ways. But women in their 30s... when there is good chemistry, it can be awesome on a different level. | /r/seduction | 05/05/18 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Any men over 40 still doing this?How old are you now? That's a late start, same as me. I just started in my late 30s. | /r/seduction | 05/05/18 01:06 AM |
| 1 | I fucked up, big time. Newbies, please read this and learn from my mistake.To be honest, you don't really know what made her change her mind. Logically, there's a good chance it has nothing to do with you not going for the kiss. I suspect what likely happened was that you started emotionally investing into her before you had sex with her. Women can sense this, even over text (or perhaps during the later parts of the date), and are repulsed by this. This often happens when you are dating only one girl, and she is a serious long term possibility for you. What you should … | /r/seduction | 27/04/18 11:05 PM |
| 7 | I approached a girl for the first time todayDude... your approach was ""Hi, I think you're really beautiful. Can I have your number please." She knows. Lol. She's giving you a chance and making it easy for you. Don't try to be anything you're not. Be honest with her. REALLY, I mean REALLY try to listen to what she says to you. If you're not clear on something, try "what do you mean by that?" | /r/seduction | 24/04/18 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.If you are trying to learn to play baseball, why would you want to even take a swing at a ball the first time, knowing that you have a 99.9% chance of missing? You'll have to learn to enjoy the process rather than being results focused. Or just don't bother playing. | /r/seduction | 20/04/18 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.Probably... why would a hot woman want to fuck you? What do you think she needs? How are you going to go about finding out (REALLY finding out) what hot/most woman want out of a man? Hint: If you can't even express sexual intent without fear of rejection and shame, how are you going to make sure her emotional needs are met? How is she going to feel safe? | /r/seduction | 20/04/18 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.You see a girl on the street you like? You go up and say hi. You express to her clearly and honestly why you are talking to her. | /r/seduction | 20/04/18 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.OK well, if you are honest about 1000+ approach, then work ethic isn't the problem. That's what it is with most guys and that's what this post was for. If I were you, I'd consider pro coaching. If you've been in the swimming pool for this long and can still barely manage dog paddling, you need to find out what you are doing wrong. At what level are you "failing"? Are you not getting positive reactions from women? #s? Dates? Lays? | /r/seduction | 19/04/18 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.Interesting. Thanks. 1000+ approaches Day or night game? both? I guess what I'm saying is that approaching and rejection is a fast track way for many guys to just get over it and be ok with themselves. Which may be simplistic. If you've got 1000+ approaches with no results AND you're a good looking guy... there must be something else going on. I honestly don't know. I'm just a beginner myself. | /r/seduction | 19/04/18 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.Not sure which hurdle you're referring to exactly. I don't want to seem preachy, but what I'm talking about is being ok with yourself. Most people, men and women, are not. Most good looking guys are not. Most ugly guys really are not. I've seen tons of good looking guys who can't get laid. I used to be one of them. The only time I ever did was when I completely lucked out (unrepeatable), when the girl chose me and essentially baby stepped me through the social interactions to get to the bedroom … | /r/seduction | 19/04/18 04:59 PM |
| 2 | End Game: How to get women to hand their numbers to youThanks. Interesting points. I still flirted with women, but I go HARD, like put-downs galore chase framing everything Can you give a couple of examples? | /r/seduction | 19/04/18 02:32 AM |
| 3 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.I guess what I'm saying is that you'll be a more attractive person once you learn to openly and honestly self express without fear of rejection. Of course, if you are really below avg looks, then you won't have the same benefits as more good looking guys. There will be tons of other variables, and things you can do to improve your game. But at a fundamental level, if you don't start with this, it won't work. Every thing will be an act. | /r/seduction | 19/04/18 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Finally getting results! I'm kind of amazed that this one little thing that I changed about myself worked so well.I felt like I was having a heart attack on my first approach. On my tenth too. Sometimes I still feel like that. If I were a woman, I could let guys come to me. But... we're men, so we have to approach. | /r/seduction | 18/04/18 10:35 PM |
| 3 | Get over a hook upSounds like you would have been even more hurt had it lasted longer. Be glad she cut it off early. She did you a favor. | /r/seduction | 18/04/18 10:03 PM |
| 1 | What should I do here, or where did I go wrong with these two women.It sounds like you are misunderstanding something. You don't have to make your intentions a mystery. In some situations, for more advanced guys, you might want to do that. But the general advice, for beginners, is that you want to make your intentions clear. This doesn't mean that you have to say everything directly, but you want her to know that you want her as a girl/woman. Most guys on this sub need to break out of the friendly/nice guy box, not be more mysterious. Baby steps. First you have … | /r/seduction | 16/04/18 05:23 PM |
| 1 | What should I do here, or where did I go wrong with these two women.I'm not sure I quiet understand what you wrote there, but it sounds like she just answered your question about why she chose a particular program. Qualifying is when a girl talks about herself in a way where she is trying to prove that she is good enough for you. For example, if you say you like smart girls, she might talk about all the books she's read, to show you that she's smart. | /r/seduction | 16/04/18 05:13 PM |
| 1 | What should I do here, or where did I go wrong with these two women.I made a comment about pants since it was cold outside and she was wearing camo pants that she herself said "were like pajamas", while her ass looked great in them. Did she say her ass looked great or you? Girls will often say shit like that (especially to betas) to get validation. This is likely not qualifying. | /r/seduction | 15/04/18 11:34 PM |
| 1 | What should I do here, or where did I go wrong with these two women.1st girl: Your memory and perception of the interaction is likely not what actually happened. Men tend to see flirtiness in girls when it isn't there. Some argue that it's evolutionary programmed. It's skewed for false positives because missed opportunities are more costly for males. Secondly, even girls that are taken can be (gasp) attracted to other guys and give off flirty vibes, sometimes subconsciously. I don't know anything about you and too busy with my own shit to read through your post … | /r/seduction | 15/04/18 11:18 PM |
| 17 | I made my first approach of my life today.Congrats! Definitely approach anyone you feel like. Guys, old ladies. This helps build confidence with taking to strangers and makes you more at ease with your interactions in general. I sometimes mix in approaching old ladies and guys in my daygame sessions. It just reinforces that you're just a social guy who likes talking to to people. It makes you appear less needy because you get into the habit of PROVIDING something to interactions as opposed to just trying to GET something from girls. Ie … | /r/seduction | 15/04/18 05:59 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Approach IRL is Much More Different than Over Dating AppsPerfect. Direct openers like that are good for beginners. Try to have a few variations handy so it doesn't sound like a script when you start doing more and more approaches. Experiment. Try to be conscious about using pauses at certain times, body language, smiling, etc. Try to find out what tends to get good results for you. Example: Opening a girl who's made eye contact vs one that doesn't even know you're there; these will involve different emotional tones and social scripts. An "I caught you… | /r/seduction | 13/04/18 07:45 PM |
| 21 | Movie pass subscribtion has gotten me lots of dates and laysAnd if desert is inside her. | /r/seduction | 12/04/18 05:04 AM |
| 21 | Good answer to the “wow your short” shit testThis is so bad | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 11:53 PM |
| 6 | Good answer to the “wow your short” shit testRSD Max uses something like "I know I'm short but I have inner value". As long as you don't say it in a butt hurt way, you are very subtly insinuating that she may be superficial and that she needs to qualify herself. | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 11:52 PM |
| 6 | I'm being rejected daily...This is great. The problem I used to have was viewing rejections as personal/shameful/failure, etc. Most rejections really aren't that bad. It's just a girl saying no thank you. Really hard blow outs are unfortunate when they happen to beginners, but they really are not the norm. When a girl says no, but is obviously flattered or impressed, I take it was a win, smile about it and move on, carrying that positive energy with me. | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 08:52 PM |
| 2 | (FR) Shortest “date” of my lifeThis is the kind of shit that happened to all of us. You handled it fine, and ya, it does suck, but... c'est la vie. Stick to learning game and pick up and this kind of thing will almost never happen to you. You will learn to assert yourself with women by being confident with your sexuality and letting them know what you want from them. No one can guarantee you won't be friend zoned, but misunderstandings like this will be a lot less likely to happen. | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Do hot women get rejected ?I don't think they get rejected per se. What likely happens is that they get blue balled by a poor schmuck who doesn't get it, didn't read the signals correctly, or is too chicken shit to make a move. I don't speak from experience at all... | /r/seduction | 09/04/18 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Why You Might Want To Reconsider Tinder...I wonder with Asian girls; do you have to put in extra effort in managing ASD? | /r/seduction | 06/04/18 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Getting a girls's numberShe's likely saying "I don't know you and I'm afraid you'll blow up my phone and be super needy if I give you my number". You need to (sub) communicate that you are not pushy and not needy. Number closing on Tinder is secondary as far as I'm concerned. You should be setting up a date. In my area/culture, it's usually as easy as a bit of chit chat, then "I'd love to take you out for a drink sometime." | /r/seduction | 06/04/18 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Having trouble going from the funny guy to a serious sexual optionGreat. Give back by keeping us posted. What did you try, what worked, etc. | /r/seduction | 06/04/18 10:54 AM |
| 5 | Having trouble going from the funny guy to a serious sexual optionDefinitely. Getting to 4 requires logistics at the very least. I feel like it is natural, to an extent. It's just not practical... Until we live in a world where people are free to have sex in public. I have a dream. | /r/seduction | 06/04/18 12:17 AM |
| 42 | Having trouble going from the funny guy to a serious sexual optionMost of the answers here mention escalation. I agree. In your situation, because you are a funny guy and make girls laugh, you have a HUGE advantage. A good way to think about it is that making a girl laugh is pretty much an emotional spike. A great way to escalate is on emotional spikes. So try this: After you make her laugh, touch her on the arm. Next time, do it again. Maybe on the shoulder or lower back. Keep using emotional spikes to escalate. Try a high five, then hold her hand for a bit. … | /r/seduction | 05/04/18 10:23 PM |
| 17 | A Rant from a girl: Why it isn’t working for you…You have to understand that when women want a companion, they are imagining a guy they are attracted to being a companion. So an alpha, Chad, fuck boy, whatever. They want that guy to be a companion. Most guys on this sub would do better concentrating on being the attractive guy than the companion thing. That being said, I liked a lot of ideas in her post. It is a dance more than an algorithym. Keeping it mysterious is always good. Body language and confidence will get you far. For me personally… | /r/seduction | 03/04/18 08:57 AM |
| 3 | What To Do When A Girl Looks At YouThis is why it's so important to do day game, cold approach IMO. When you get used to stopping attractive women who aren't even looking in your general direction, forcing them off their ear buds, you will have no problem approaching a girl who is looking at you. None of this song and dance bullshit, as you mentioned. | /r/seduction | 01/04/18 02:05 AM |
| 3 | If you approach a girl at a party and she is into you do you stick with her for a while or do you walk off after like 10 minutes and come back to pull later on?I don't think I agree with you, but I'm curious to know.. where did you get this rule? | /r/seduction | 31/03/18 01:35 AM |
| 1 | If you approach a girl at a party and she is into you do you stick with her for a while or do you walk off after like 10 minutes and come back to pull later on?I agree with his advice. Neediness is not so black and white. If you are clinging to her, in desperation and fear of losing her, then yes you will give off a needy vibe. If you're confident and escalating, leading the interaction towards a pull, and confident that you can leave at anytime to pursue something better/more interesting should you need to, then no that's not needy. I'm pretty sure u/dashdotdashdashdot meant the latter. | /r/seduction | 31/03/18 01:33 AM |
| 5 | If you approach a girl at a party and she is into you do you stick with her for a while or do you walk off after like 10 minutes and come back to pull later on?Logistics based answer. Love it. It's amazing to me that women do this instinctively. Whereas we have to be algorithmic about it. Actually, so much of pick up is learning to think like a women. But for real; not the BS "get in touch with your feminine side" bullshit. | /r/seduction | 31/03/18 01:27 AM |
| 3 | How not to be ''that guy'' in the club?I don't know... Honestly, that's worked for me before and I don't think I'm all that attractive nor super fit. I am in decent shape, and maybe slightly above average looks. I was dancing and having fun but also was pretty open about checking out women. Towards the end of the night, one girl who was there alone made it pretty clear that I should go talk to her. Direct eye contact, smiling, etc. So I did and that was that. Sometimes, you can let them choose you. I was in a mood where I absolutely … | /r/seduction | 27/03/18 01:48 AM |
| 2 | How not to be ''that guy'' in the club?So much of game is emotion. Those guys are coming from desperation, frustration and anger. Just be friendly and cool. Sure, you might be mistaken for one of those guys if they are lots of them ruining the vibe for everyone, which sucks but... C'est la vie. Just remember, when you're approaching you're coming from a place of honesty and good emotions. Girls/people will often pick up on that. | /r/seduction | 27/03/18 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Relief After Cancelled Hook-Up? (Am I The Only Guy)Yes that was the joke... | /r/seduction | 15/03/18 09:28 PM |
| -1 | Relief After Cancelled Hook-Up? (Am I The Only Guy)Fuck you and your "problems" Edit: wow so serious. Relax guys. It was a joke. | /r/seduction | 15/03/18 04:27 PM |
| 3 | How the F do you get a girl to reply to your text after you get her numberOr you are doing everything right and she just isn't interested. You should have multiple approaches. Which refine into multiple numbers. That refine into multiple dates. That refine into multiple girls you are fuckin EDIT: Changed "funnel" to "refine". More accurate as you start with a lot of rough leads and narrow down to a few girls you are sleeping with. Outside of this system, you can have girls that you just click with instantly, girls that you sleep with fast and one time (mostly night ga… | /r/seduction | 15/03/18 12:43 AM |
| 6 | Feeling good about myself thanks to this subYa I'm willing to bet there's a tinder marketing presence on this sub... Your experience sounds standard. | /r/seduction | 14/03/18 02:37 PM |
| 20 | Feeling good about myself thanks to this subGive yourself permission to talk to strangers. Most people love it. Start with old ladies to elevate your mood if you have to. Then go talk to that attractive girl. Do this enough and the next time that cute girl is checking you out, you will have no problem pulling the trigger. Go get em killa. | /r/seduction | 14/03/18 02:11 AM |
| 29 | Feeling good about myself thanks to this subYou're lucky you're getting action from (what sounds like) quality girls from tinder. Most average looking guys get really poor results. | /r/seduction | 14/03/18 02:08 AM |
| 8 | Why do girls get clingy after sex?To add to this, this is why you should have sex with her as soon as she is willing. Postponing it does not really help you; you're job will get much easier after you fuck. The romantic, Hollywood idea of building up anticipation doesn't really work. So if she wants to, and the logistics are bad, then fuckin MAKE the logistics work, whatever way you have to. Also, don't have bad logistics. This is more of a note to self by the way... | /r/seduction | 12/03/18 08:39 PM |
| 1 | How to know if a girl is being friendly only because she knows I like her?This sub is not about that. This sub is about improving your success with girls/women generally. See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/83nvti/the_answer_to_every_question_about_this_one_girl/ Also, the answer to this particular question is the same as with all girls. If she is being friendly, assume attraction, and escalate from there. Either physically or by asking her out on a date, etc. | /r/seduction | 12/03/18 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Safety in sexProtection against false accusations is a good topic. My take on it is that if you do a good job with managing ASD, then you will have less LMR which will lead to more positive emotions about the experience and less possible regret on her part. So maybe if you are encountering LMR, it might be be helpful to think about it in this way: is this standard "I don't want to look like a slut or make it too easy for him", or is there something else? Like is there real, deeper guilt and negative emotions… | /r/seduction | 12/03/18 05:09 PM |
| 3 | How did you raise your self-esteem?"You have to learn to be your own best friend and support yourself." This is the key. We tend to say some really harsh and critical things to ourselves. Things we would never say to a friend. Treat yourself like you would a close friend. EDIT: I'll check that book out BTW. Thanks | /r/seduction | 11/03/18 09:09 PM |
| 8 | "Don't Follow Us, Alright?"Like others said, rejection is part of the game. It'll sort your ego out real quick if you stick with it... It's fuckin hard. Keep in mind that they didn't reject you personally. They don't know you; they didn't get a chance to know that your cool. They just rejected a guy in a situation where they thought that was the best decision. Not gonna lie to you... After a hard blow out like that, things will be a bit hard. You'll be doubting yourself and looking/hoping for a good reaction in future app… | /r/seduction | 09/03/18 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Nothing is hookingI know. I'm trying to break out of it | /r/seduction | 09/03/18 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Nothing is hookingNOTHING is hooking. Damn. They used to be at least flattered. Now they won't even engage. Just "Thanks, bye" OK OK /rant | /r/seduction | 08/03/18 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Nothing is hookingThanks | /r/seduction | 08/03/18 01:38 AM |
| 3 | Is The Dating Market "Broken"?Ok I'll bite... :) | /r/seduction | 06/03/18 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Your Favorite First Date Spots?I might... | /r/seduction | 06/03/18 04:59 PM |
| 11 | Is The Dating Market "Broken"?Great post! Very interesting idea. Yes it certainly seems that way. From your description of the female perspective: You would think though that meeting a woman via cold approach, when things go well and there is chemistry, that this would be an awesome experience for her. Something that is far more real and filled with emotions than the average guy who's presence is defined by blips on her phone. Yet, we STILL are faced with a high flake rate with cold approach. Its almost like the broken datin… | /r/seduction | 06/03/18 03:03 PM |
| 3 | If this subreddit was about cyclingThere is a functionally endless, free supply of bicycles you can try. If this one breaks, just try another one. You'll never run out... Oh wait | /r/seduction | 05/03/18 04:32 PM |
| 4 | Finally did my first cold approach"90% of guys didn't approach." So true. Also with day game: you get an instant emotional spike. At a bar or club, they expect to be approached. During the day, it's unexpected and flattering; as you said they don't have a bitch shield up. You can use that emotional spike to immediately sexualize the interaction and also create a great vibe. When you follow up afterwards, she'll remember all these positive emotions she got from you. | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 07:23 AM |
| 17 | Success rate with women skyrocketed as soon as I moved up north. Does location have that much to do with it?One thing that might be related to this too is that when you are in a new city, you feel like you have a blank slate. The imaginary "people" keeping tabs on you in that city are no longer there. You feel more care free and not stifled. Willing to bet the OP will fall back into his previous state when this honeymoon phase ends. | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 07:04 AM |
| 10 | Your Favorite First Date Spots?Some are hot | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 02:53 AM |
| 4 | Your Favorite First Date Spots?Vegans | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 01:29 AM |
| 3 | My biggest key to having a high success rate with women.Ok | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 01:27 AM |
| 10 | My biggest key to having a high success rate with women.I'm not saying go for only hot women. I'm saying this model is flawed. Guys who aren't conventionally good looking will not be able to solicit these IOIs consistently and hence won't approach as often as they should. I understand what you are saying. Its not inherently bad. What I'm saying is I think it's better to view it like this: IF you get IOIs, then definitely approach. Sure, you can actively try to get them out of the girl, like you described. But don't approach ONLY if you get IOIs. | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 01:14 AM |
| 10 | My biggest key to having a high success rate with women.Generally speaking, looking away from you is a red light. Looking down is a sign of submission. You may not be able to close but you probably should approach. If she smiles, green fuckin light. If she looks up or rolls her eyes, or something overly negative, it's likely a shit test or bitch shield. If she really didn't at least consider you, even if just as a small probability, she would absolutely not give a shit about you. She wouldn't even bother. You wouldn't register in her world. Generally… | /r/seduction | 04/03/18 12:01 AM |
| 4 | My biggest key to having a high success rate with women.How to game when you are conventionally attractive: be attractive. I know it sounds like I'm butt hurt, but I genuinely believe this model will not work for most men. Edit: the hottest women will generally give very little if no signs. Even for a slightly above average attractive guy, I would have missed some great opportunities had I followed this model. | /r/seduction | 03/03/18 11:47 PM |
| 1 | What are some PUA companies besides RSD?Thanks. I've never purchased their products but their videos seem to focus on things like -Inner game -Value giving -Getting out of the consumer mind set of value taking; being able to self generate fun -Ego destruction -Self worth and self acceptance -Understanding that women aren't sluts or deceptive; they operate on a different set of assumptions and emotions when it comes to intersexual attraction a whole bunch of other things within these themes To me, I looks like pretty decent YouTube con… | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 10:51 PM |
| 1 | What are some PUA companies besides RSD?Curious: why was the hotseat a waste of time? What happened vs what you expected? | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 08:13 PM |
| 4 | What are some PUA companies besides RSD?Why do they seem scummy? I watch their videos; their newish content. A lot of it seems focused on inner game and philosophy. I don't get all the hate. Yes there is some sensationalist shit. But they have to sell. They are a for profit company, not a charity. | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 08:02 PM |
| 6 | I finally did my first cold approachOh man. Sorry. Why don't you try cold approaching like old ladies and guys? Just starting up a small convo even if it's just about the weather. | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 06:28 AM |
| 4 | I finally did my first cold approachGreat job! I'm being a bit pedantic here, but what you did was finally approach a girl you've been eyeing for a while. This is more like sharp shooting. CA is going up to a girl you happen to see and like (usual on the street; day game), with no past or connection with her, and going up to her. That was awesome though. You should be proud. Also consider doing daygame cold approach. It will REALLY improve your skills. | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 04:06 AM |
| 8 | I finally did my first cold approachIt depends though. I was in a weird head space for a bit where I just couldn't approach. It took all my will to break out of it. It was almost worse than doing it for the first time. I guess knowing how good it could be made the prospect of getting a hard blow out that much worse. Whereas when you do it for the first time, you bite down, head in and expect the worst. I'm glad I'm out of it now though. In reality, you are gifting like 95% of them with a huge compliment and flattery. And even if t… | /r/seduction | 01/03/18 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Help a 10 year long keyboard jockey get out and learn gameThat's true. If you are very attractive and suck at game, you will very likely still be able to get some women. But probably not the higher quality ones. Edit: to clarify, I was much better looking when I was younger. I could always find a girl who was interested, but I was also very picky. So it felt like"no girls" wanted me. Now that I'm older, it's a bit of a different game. Both girls and women expect you to be more manly. Coming out of an LTR, I've had to adjust quite a bit. | /r/seduction | 28/02/18 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Help a 10 year long keyboard jockey get out and learn gameIf you’re as attractive as you claim to be, you should have no problem getting laid. That's not necessarily true. I've known some really good looking guys with confidence issues that had huge problems. Even when the girl is practically throwing herself at him, a guy with confidence issues will often find a way to sabotage it and turn her off. | /r/seduction | 28/02/18 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Why does it seem like some people just 'get it' when it comes to girls?Simply because these guys don't give a fuck. Which is usually attractive to women. I'm not saying you should not give a fuck about your life, but you should not give a fuck about women. Women want to be able to chase a bit. They want to feel like they earned a guy. Mostly though, they don't want to be judged. Guys that don't give a fuck generally don't judge and are care free. | /r/seduction | 27/02/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Laughing at myself for this approach.You can open with the tinder thing then tell her honestly "I was looking for an excuse to talk to you, cause you were so pretty...but I didn't know how to start a convo" that's way more genuine. She likely knows this as soon as it comes out of your mouth. It's just a game. A dance. It's supposed to be fuckin fun. Looking at indirect approaches as fundamentally disingenuous is a bit black and white no? | /r/seduction | 27/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Laughing at myself for this approach.There are pros and cons with both direct and indirect openers. Some very high level PUAs use indirect openers. If you are just dismissing that as pussy excuses that real men don't use, then you might be missing out on some aspects of game. But to each his own. Do what works for you, obviously. Peace. | /r/seduction | 27/02/18 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Laughing at myself for this approach.Ya, the 3rd one would have been good. Lesson learned. I doubt I'll have the opportunity to use that line again, but... Really listen to what she is saying instead of trying to control the situation. | /r/seduction | 27/02/18 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Confession: I am addicted to Hooking up and TinderYou're young. Why do you feel the need to settle down? Maybe you're guilting yourself about something that you think ( or more likely were brought up to think) is wrong. Read the rational male. You are in abundance and will continue to be for a lot longer, if you keep taking care of yourself and your career. Take advantage of it and have fun. The more women you are with, the more you will know what's out there, and are likely to find the best one for you. You can settle down later. 35+ EDIT: Cha… | /r/seduction | 26/02/18 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Regarding girls that don't text backWho am I to disagree with Luke? But I feel you may lose a lot of opportunities that way. I think there is a way to call out a girl for not texting back without being needy. In sales, you would never close doors right? So come up with something that leaves the door open, but is still a reminder of what she might be losing out on. I'm drawing a blank... maybe someone has something good? Field tested? | /r/seduction | 26/02/18 06:38 PM |
| 4 | She texted me this. "If you're hungry, i can come over and cook for you <3"If your description of events is accurate, then she is really into you. If I were in your shoes, I would just go with it. When you end up at her place or yours and things get heated, just explain to her that you like her a lot but you're rusty and feel a little nervous. Like others mentioned, if you're really worried about blowing too fast, then make her cum first without your dick. | /r/seduction | 26/02/18 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Most guys don't have game!Shhhhhh! ;) | /r/seduction | 26/02/18 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Best city for pickup other than NYC?Why is NYC considered good for pick up? | /r/seduction | 25/02/18 07:41 PM |
| 3 | your way of 'making the move'I'm not saying just go for it. Those are the words that he is putting in my mouth. I'm saying learn proper escalation. Start small, compliance tests, etc. This is 101 stuff. "Twinkle in her eye". Gawd. | /r/seduction | 25/02/18 07:27 PM |
| 103 | Well that quickly took a 180Why is it always so fuckin easy when you don't actually want her?! (I know why. Still amazes me sometimes though) | /r/seduction | 24/02/18 09:19 PM |
| 12 | Be careful of who you take advice from on hereThis makes sense. All my FRs and posts about deeper concepts have been downvoted or pretty much ignored. This sub seems to be focused more on quick tips and tricks lately. I think what is happening these days in the real world though, is that most guys are faced with the choice to approach a girl and risk being creepy or have what they do labeled as sexual harassment, vs stay home and Jack off to an unlimited supply of gorgeous internet girls. This is largely in their heads though. From my exper… | /r/seduction | 24/02/18 02:46 AM |
| 8 | Be careful of who you take advice from on hereCase in point. "twinkle in her eye". https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7zon9j/your_way_of_making_the_move/dupjs72 | /r/seduction | 24/02/18 02:26 AM |
| 2 | your way of 'making the move'Sure, maybe... but if that's true you think this is going to help them? There’s always a moment where you’re having a good time with each other, time slows, and she smiles with a twinkle in her eye. | /r/seduction | 23/02/18 08:30 PM |
| 14 | your way of 'making the move'Lol. That sounds like what an inexperienced guy would say. You're the fuckin man. Its up to you to make it happen, not wait for a "magical moment". WTF is this sub becoming. | /r/seduction | 23/02/18 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What should I think if a girl dm's ME on IG?So you're saying you have had experiences where there was no previous attraction, you opened the girl on social media, and eventually had sex with her? | /r/seduction | 22/02/18 09:33 PM |
| 1 | What should I think if a girl dm's ME on IG?Messaging girls with no context MAKES you unattractive. Approaching girls confidently and being socially competent makes you attractive. There is never a good reason to message girls out of the blue on social media to try to "open" them. This is a low risk, super unattractive, beta male tactic. | /r/seduction | 22/02/18 09:09 PM |
| 18 | What should I think if a girl dm's ME on IG?There is no double standard. It's just that girls almost never do that. Congrats, you now know how it feels to be a girl being DMed with no context by chodes. | /r/seduction | 22/02/18 07:19 PM |
| 5 | How did you find your 'boys'?Yes. Gaming requires adopting a completely different ideological structure than the mainstream way of thinking. Regular friends will just tag along at best, and at worst ruin your set or game in general. Slowly showing them philosophical aspects of game works only on open minded ones, and only to a certain extent. | /r/seduction | 22/02/18 12:46 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Not your usual FRThat's true. In this case though, it was officially a DATE date. The intent was crystal clear for both of us at the outset. So if she wasn't interested, I'm fairly certain she would not have suggested another one. Or she would have waited until I contacted her and then suggested we hang out as friends or something like that. This is based on my past experience with women. I guess I'll find out soon enough. | /r/seduction | 21/02/18 11:13 PM |
| 2 | STOTD - I like big strong menI think with shit tests it's all about being fun. So you can't use this line in a mean spirited way. When she gives you the "how dare you!" look, you have to be like a kid who just said something he wasn't supposed to, grinning about it. Be playful, and be real at the same time. If that makes sense. | /r/seduction | 21/02/18 07:12 AM |
| 7 | STOTD - I like big strong menI guess this is equivalent to "Why?how much do you weigh?". Yours is probably better though. The direct route is probably too assholish. | /r/seduction | 21/02/18 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...No problem. I just want to say that I still consider myself a beginner at game. In my early thirties, when I was "hitting my stride" as a man, I was constantly surprised by how younger girls were attracted to me. Despite being in an LTR, had I known basic game at the time, I have no doubt I could have had lots of casual relationships had I wanted them. I think what gives you such value as a man in your 30s is that you are old enough at that point where you can't be dismissed as just a boy. You a… | /r/seduction | 19/02/18 03:37 AM |
| 1 | 5 Signs She Wants You to Approach Her"Hi, I've seen you around a lot but we've never really met. What's your name?" Even better: "Hi, what's your name?" Your over-complicating things because you think there's been this tension building up for a while. Think of it this way, if roles were reversed and it was her job to open you, you would be perfectly happy with "Hi, what's your name?" Picture her saying that to you in a friendly manner. Do that. Secondly, the validation from "knowing" that she's into you can be possibly shattered by… | /r/seduction | 17/02/18 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...No regrets here. Just observations. There are many reasons why a man is in his "prime" in his 30s. (Cliche I know). Again, I recommend reading The Rational Male. Take it with a grain of salt, but there are good concepts in there about this particular matter. One of them is the fact that men and women age differently. Women lose a lot more SMV as they age, and have a shorter window. Men on the other hand, gain SMV more slowly and retain it for much longer. The idea that a men should settle down a… | /r/seduction | 17/02/18 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...Sorry: LTR Early thirties: definitely | /r/seduction | 14/02/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...Partly. Let's just say that there were a lot of missed opportunities for me in my early to mid thirties by being in an LMR. Don't do it unless you REALLY want to. Learn game, get out there and discover what you actually want in a woman. | /r/seduction | 13/02/18 04:40 PM |
| 0 | STOTD - You are not even cute...No I'm not. <Flat tone. Look at her body like you are going to do REALLY bad things to her. Not trying to be a bad boy, just matter-of-fact-ly> EDIT: Maybe don't do this if you don't actually have any experience with women, sexually. They tend to be able to see through bluffs like this. But if you are coming from the state of mind that that's what you want to do to her, and it's fun, then yes. | /r/seduction | 12/02/18 07:23 PM |
| 1 | What Most Men Get Wrong About Self Confidence And AttractionLate reply, but after thinking about this more: This technique sounds more like an ego protection strategy. You are eliciting a sympathy response from the woman instead of trying to build attraction; getting her panties wet. You can walk away feeling like "Yay! I got a positive reaction and didn't get blown out :) Pat myself on the back for receiving this validation". But you are not actually getting laid. You are preferring to chose ego protection over real results. BAD. You should be learning … | /r/seduction | 12/02/18 07:21 PM |
| 6 | How do I stop thinking about a crush that rejected me?Functionally, there are an infinite number of girls you can get together with. If things don't work out with one, learn and move on. Let me repeat that: INFINITE. You can always try again with another girl. Always. You will NEVER run out of tries in your lifetime. EDIT: The thing with women is that they get old. As a man, you can still be attractive well into your 40s. With health and nutrition being what it is these days, probably into 50s for guys in their 20s and 30s now. So take care of your… | /r/seduction | 12/02/18 01:41 AM |
| 1 | STOTD - I could out drink you, any dayExact same thing for me. I mean, I like young, hot women as much as the next guy, but this is a bit childish. Thanks for that. This is a good way to communicate that she needs to qualify herself further. I might use that! | /r/seduction | 11/02/18 08:57 AM |
| 30 | Pro tip for finding out if she gave the Right/Wrong number.I guess it comes off as needy. I dunno. If the girl really likes you, she won't mind you checking to make sure you have the right number. EDIT: I talk about deeper game in other posts, but this is the kinda superficial shit that gets a bunch of comments. What I'm saying is that IF the girls likes you, then: You confirm the number in a smooth, socially calibrated way which is not a big deal. The vibe is purely logistical and just making sure that there wasn't a mistake. "We both have each others … | /r/seduction | 11/02/18 08:42 AM |
| 3 | What Most Men Get Wrong About Self Confidence And AttractionThis makes sense and I agree with you on a completely theoretical level. However, this is a tool to help beginners. Like all things of this nature, it could be a good tool to help you build confidence and grow. But it could also quickly become a crutch that hinders your development. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, so I can't say either way. EDIT: Adding to this... This technique sounds more like an ego protection strategy. You can walk away feeling "Yay! I got a positive reaction… | /r/seduction | 11/02/18 06:03 AM |
| 8 | Shit test: your flirting game is weakNot sure about field tested but it seems that the proper way to deal with a shit test is to convey a playfully, I don't give a fuck attitude. A lot of keyboard warriors seem to think it's about showing her that "Ha! I got you back!". Which is completely reactionary and not good. I mean, It could work if it's a REALLY funny, witty comeback, but shit tests aren't about comebacks. You should be conveying that you don't fear losing her, you aren't butt hurt, you are still playful and unaffected, etc… | /r/seduction | 11/02/18 05:48 AM |
| 6 | What Most Men Get Wrong About Self Confidence And AttractionOk. I get what the guy in the vid is saying but I have to agree with u/GlueCherio here. This is a good way for beginners to deal with AA, maybe get some numbers or dates, but it's not gonna get women hot. They can't help but be nice and warm to a cute puppy dog, but they won't fuck puppies. They wanna fuck a man whose confident, friendly, social. And not always safe... They need to think that he still might be a bit of a threat. There's still needs to be some doubt... Taking the approach in the … | /r/seduction | 11/02/18 05:17 AM |
| 4 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...Fucked women all through my early twenties. They all fucking hate me. Sounds like you are doing it wrong. | /r/seduction | 10/02/18 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Progress and Sticking Points - almost three months on...DO NOT look to settle down at 30 just because you feel pressure to. This is when you are starting to hit your stride as a man. If you are well established, take care of yourself and have decent game, you will be killing it from 30 - 40. Settle down at 40 with a hot 27 y/o ;) Read the Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi for more on this. | /r/seduction | 10/02/18 07:18 PM |
| 3 | My first approachFuck you, you dirty little slut. (For the satirically impaired: this is satire) | /r/seduction | 10/02/18 07:05 PM |
| 13 | STOTD - Isn't that guy cute?!And by this, we mean the bathroom of the first date venue. Take the lead by being alpha and by escalating with kino. If she refuses bathroom ass play, then next her. | /r/seduction | 06/02/18 10:58 PM |
| 1 | I banged around 100 girls from cold approach and now I can't even make eye contact without crippling anxietyI would create solutions that didn't even exist. Respect | /r/seduction | 05/02/18 06:15 PM |
| 1 | I banged around 100 girls from cold approach and now I can't even make eye contact without crippling anxietyAs someone new to this, this is one of my biggest fears. It seems like sometimes I am "on" and sometimes not so much. It's REALLY hard to pin point the how/when/why. I can imagine that being on top of the world, and then losing it all would suck bad. I think a lot of it has to do with fear and insecurity. Once you lose that, you start having fun and your life is great. A lot of guys get a major boost when they learn pick up because they loose so much fear and insecurity related to women right of… | /r/seduction | 05/02/18 06:15 PM |
| 2 | What to say to girls? Always at a loss for words, hard to carry on conversations...If you don't know what to say, you can reply: Interesting. What do you mean by that? I'm not sure I understand. Exactly how/why/what/who/where... Etc? Oh? Why do you feel that way? Hmm. How did that make you feel? Really? Why is that? (Works well with random facts that people offer up about themselves) What do you like about _____ ? People love talking about themselves, so the idea is to ask questions that give them the opportunity to express who they are as a person. | /r/seduction | 04/02/18 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Could see the interest in her eyes: But still nope.Weird post... There isn't too much info to go by but: False time constraint. I also have to go, but why don't I take your number and we can get a drink some other time. | /r/seduction | 04/02/18 05:14 PM |
| 26 | "If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present. " - Lao TzuShut the fuck up! -- Einstein | /r/seduction | 04/02/18 02:57 AM |
| 7 | In the age of tinder + bumble, what's the point of hitting up bars and clubs?Because you can be A LOT more attractive as a man in person than you could ever be on Tinder. If you go by Corey Wayne's estimate, 97% of men have no idea what they are doing. If you learn a bit of game, you have virtually no competition. How much more exciting is that compared to spending 2hrs swiping only to MAYBE get a date with an HB6 or 7? I've decided to keep Tinder as another source for new leads, because why not... but it's much more fun and valuable to you in terms of social skills and … | /r/seduction | 03/02/18 03:09 AM |
| 2 | Girl instantly 'friendzoned' me after kissing me?I told a girl she was a bad kisser once. Once. | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 08:46 PM |
| 13 | My standards are waaaay too high!This could be a defense mechanism. If your standards are so high then you can't be rejected. Safe. | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 08:06 PM |
| 2 | How do I make the move if he won't look at me?WTF, is this Sarah?? Oh wait, no. I think it's pretty cute. You are both so young. Guys are generally clueless, especially at this age. You will have to give him VERY clear signals. So when you think you are giving him a clear signal, amplify that by 10. Then he MIGHT get it. To be perfectly honest, once you get older, you will likely start going for guys that just "get it". It will make things so much easier for you because you won't have to "manage" a guy and his emotions, and his behavior wil… | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 07:32 PM |
| 6 | I want my boyfriend to be more dominant in the bedroom during sex. I want him to throw me on the bed, spank me and whisper in my ear. How do I get him to be more dominant and rough?PM me and I'll show you | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 07:24 PM |
| 7 | As a woman, how do I seduce guys and get guys interested in me?Lol. It would be funny if OP is a troll trying to get internet PUA wannabees to approach woman with hijabs. Film it guys! | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 05:45 PM |
| 9 | As a woman, how do I seduce guys and get guys interested in me?There is no way I, or most males in the Western world would approach a woman with a hijab. We just assume you are very religious and that you wouldn't be interested in or allowed to date outside of your culture or religion. In fact, even with moderate Muslims, I would be afraid of getting the girl in trouble and jeopardizing her safety by getting involved with her. | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 05:43 PM |
| 16 | What's up with the influx of women on r/seduction?Not sure... Every one is afraid of talking to them. | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Public Success Does not Equal Game SuccessOk USA | /r/seduction | 01/02/18 03:59 AM |
| 1 | The worst thing a guy can hear: "Well it was nice to meet you"Huh. You know what... It occurs to me now that maybe the compliment is a case where you would want to make it about yourself, not her, oddly enough. Like "I think you look pretty/hot/gorgeous". Hence the reason I'm talking to you. The sub communication being that you are the one initiating action. You are the selector. Not "You are pretty/hot/gorgeous". She already knows, as you said. So what. But yes, either way, further qualification beyond her attractiveness would be necessary. | /r/seduction | 31/01/18 09:34 PM |
| 2 | The worst thing a guy can hear: "Well it was nice to meet you"I'm not sure complimenting is a good opener if it's done to get some kind of approval or conversation starter. But if it's done in such a way to show your intent, confidently, authentically and it a socially calibrated way, then it can be very effective. "They get the same shit everytime they leave the house. " I think that in North America and Britain, they DON'T get that at all. The "same shit" is guys being too chicken shit to approach a woman they find attractive, and trying to play this wea… | /r/seduction | 31/01/18 07:31 PM |
| 1 | How to not care about “secondary” rejection?I have the same problem. I'm trying to overcome this by reminding myself of a few things: 1 - You are doing this for yourself; not for others. Value yourself more than what strangers might think of you in the moment. 2 - Remember that you doing this is you taking the path towards empowerment. Those sneering, ridiculing or thinking less of you for doing this are people who do not possess this kind of power and courage. Ie, AFCs, chodes, generally dissatisfied people. 3 - There is no social police… | /r/seduction | 29/01/18 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Tinder Dates - 2nd dateVery interesting. I think you might be right. Can you explain how qualification could help engender the feeling in a woman that you don't want her for just sex? An example here would be helpful. To be clear, I don't want them for JUST sex, but do want multiple, casual relationships. Obviously women I get along with would be better. | /r/seduction | 29/01/18 08:18 PM |
| 3 | A question about vulnerabilityI answered your original post about neediness. It really sounds like this is not about the concepts discussed in Models, but rather about you having some deep seated issues about the fact that you lost your virginity to a prostitute. I suggest that you look into these feelings and find a way to make peace with them. You may need a professional counselor. | /r/seduction | 27/01/18 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Just moved to a new city. Gonna try something I've been waiting to do for yearsFFS I need to worry about the sides of my eyes now?! Good tips :) | /r/seduction | 27/01/18 07:35 PM |
| 17 | I only like someone till I can get them then after I don’tIt sounds like you are stuck in validation mode. You need sex from girls as a form of validation, and when you get it, you quickly need to find the next source. However, you are only 17. So there's nothing wrong with having a lot of experiences and discovering what's out there. | /r/seduction | 26/01/18 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Are younger girls (18-24) more attracted to unintelligent/childish types?There's a wide variety of personality types with girls 18-24. It would be hard to say what THEY like. That being said, women are attracted to attractive men. The dumbasses you see getting laid... ask yourself honestly: does it really have to do with their intelligence? Or is it more that they are care free and fun? When girls are with them, do they feel free and like they aren't being judged? | /r/seduction | 26/01/18 06:27 PM |
| 2 | The real problem with beta/chode game.1 - Risk taking: I see what you're saying. I was coming from the point of view that most people here would suffer from the opposite problem of Julian Blanc's. 2 - "But some element of plausible deniability is absolutely necessary." ABSOLUTELY agree. I wouldn't want this post to come across as saying that plausible deniability and indirectness are bad things at all. They are valuable tools in regular game. (EDIT: especially with ASD. I've talked about this in previous posts as well). I'm saying t… | /r/seduction | 26/01/18 05:24 PM |
| 1 | The real problem with beta/chode game.Read: AFC or regular guy "game". | /r/seduction | 25/01/18 11:12 PM |
| 4 | Girl Stops Make Out - What Did I Do Wrong?Like others said, it sounds like this was just her. She wasn't emotionally ready and you respected that. Cool. You say that you are a good catholic boy. I'm just curious, is she religious as well? It does sound like there was a bit of guilt there and that this MAY have been a bit of last minute resistance. What you did was good. I would have switched to building comfort at this point by emphasizing that you aren't a pushy guy and don't expect anything to happen. (relieve pressure) making it clea… | /r/seduction | 25/01/18 05:27 PM |
| 5 | How do I ask her to have sex?As u/KingEjaculator mentioned: don't ask directly like that. You have to ask indirectly. Using the example he mentioned is a good start ("we can chill at home and watch a movie"). The reason you don't ask directly is because you ALWAYS want to make sex your fault. You have to take the lead, initiative and responsibility for it. This is related to Anti Slut Defense theory (ASD). There is very strong social pressure on women not to be sluts. AKA slut shaming. So it's better for her to have a story… | /r/seduction | 25/01/18 05:08 PM |
| 16 | How do I ask her to have sex?Fuck you with your fancy hair. | /r/seduction | 25/01/18 05:02 PM |
| -1 | How to approach the apathetic hipster chick?Ok, I still consider myself a newb, but most of the answers here seem like shit. They've already accepted the premise that there is a special way to attract this special type of woman. Straight out of the gate, you are playing into her frame. She already has control, and seduction, as promoted by this sub, is already lost because it's out of your hands. Besides, this post reeks of thinly veiled oneitis. Every man responds to an attractive woman. Every woman responds to an attractive man. The for… | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 05:34 PM |
| 7 | How do I stop feeling down about my height?Dude that was so beta. You should just take a shit on the dinner table to establish your dominance! ;) Have fun! | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Do PUA techniques actually work or is it too much of being a “set method” for every situation?A set method is one approach. This sub concentrates more on general concepts. Its more about understanding what kind of behavior is attractive and what is not. In the end behavior is just that though. Most posters here encourage the development of inner game and self improvement in general. | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 04:28 PM |
| 3 | How do I stop feeling down about my height?Stay strong my friend | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 04:23 PM |
| 31 | How do I stop feeling down about my height?"the most recent one said ew no you’re short." So you're lucky that an insensitive cunt filtered herself out for you. Why would you want to be with her? She will be old faster than she knows it, and you can potentially be banging attractive women well into your 40s and probably 50s, if you play your cards right. Not gonna sugar coat it, height is a big thing for women. So you will have to play up to your skills and attributes. It's gonna be a bit harder for you, but you have to learn to accept t… | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 08:22 AM |
| 3 | Do You Even Realize How Your Voice Sounds To Women?Cool! I'm Canadian and I personally LOVE the southern dialect/accent. "I'm fixin' to" is one of my favorite sayings. I try to incorporate it in my speech, but people usually just ignore it (does not compute) or look at me like I'm crazy. I should head down south sometime and get me a chicken fried steak and a southern belle. | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Do You Even Realize How Your Voice Sounds To Women?I'm no linguist, but it's apparent that you are an educated guy using "ain't" for emphasis. It doesn't have the negative association with it that it would have if someone from a lower socio economic class would. | /r/seduction | 24/01/18 02:50 AM |
| 3 | Seductive Male Characters in movies/tv-showsI hate these kind of posts because it's about celebrating the end result. (As is Hollywood in general). They are just blown up, fictional characters. Trying to emulate their behavior will not be productive to most people on this sub; putting in the work in terms of inner game and approaching will. | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Field Report: flopped on a Netflix and chillThis is a situation where you should feel entitled. Allow yourself to try. Allow yourself to fail, should it happen. Think about it: She put herself in a situation where she was alone with you for hours. When suggestions came up, she turned down the opportunity to leave. This doesn't mean that she MUST bang you 100% guaranteed, but it does mean that she trusts you. So trust yourself to make a move. Believe that she trusts you enough that she will say no to you if something makes her really uncom… | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 10:11 PM |
| 8 | Field Report: flopped on a Netflix and chillDeep down, the OP knows he fucked up. Problem is most guys (I used to be like this) are not actually looking for signs. The signs are already there and they know it. They are looking for signals that will guarantee safety against potential rejection. It never happens. | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 08:19 PM |
| 11 | Is seduction a learnable art?The main stream assumption is that it should be "natural". There is actually a bit of shaming involved for men trying to learn this skill. Like you SHOULDN'T be learning this. You should be "good enough" to attract women naturally by being yourself. Learning these kind of skills is perceived as manipulative and/or pathetic (ie; you aren't good enough, you have to resort to... THIS). In reality though, it's like toast masters or improv. Sure, some people are naturals, but most people will have to… | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Next time she flakes, be like this dude.Looking back on this thread, I can see that it's turned a bit into a "THAT'S NOT ALPHA!" shaming of an emotional response. That wasn't the intent of my comment. Just that his reaction is indicative of a less than ideal mental state; not something that should be held up as an exemplar. Even if you take out the part about him crying. If you are flaked on, coming from abundance, you probably would have other options in your phone that you could maybe set something up with last minute. If that doesn… | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Look at me I'm so special I always get "instant dates" and phone numbers, I'm so special!when you two have already gotten over most of your emotional roadblocks and are now just seeing how much damage you two can do. Oh man. I can't wait to get to that point! So much work to do though... | /r/seduction | 23/01/18 12:08 AM |
| 1 | OK to get drunk?This is how I look at it. Drinking is just a tool. I drink JUST enough for it to be a social lubricant and lower my inhibitions. Nothing more. My rule of thumb is about a beer an hour. | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Look at me I'm so special I always get "instant dates" and phone numbers, I'm so special!In my opinion though you build a dependence on them. Good point. Having your wingman look at your approaches and give good feedback and push you when you are being too safe is really helpful though. I dunno... hard to say. | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 09:42 PM |
| 1 | My first Tinder match = success!Just curious: how old are you/her? | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Look at me I'm so special I always get "instant dates" and phone numbers, I'm so special!For beginners though, just approaching is so hard. I think you are right though. At some point, you need to be pushing yourself more. This is why a wingman is so important. | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 08:55 PM |
| 17 | Next time she flakes, be like this dude.Sure, there are a million maybes as to why he had such an extreme reaction from just a flake. The conclusion shouldn't be "be like this dude" though. So weird. | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 07:13 PM |
| 26 | Next time she flakes, be like this dude.I'm not sure if being alpha is the issue here. If he is crying about a flake, he is in serious scarcity mode. I get that it's a bit of a catch 22; you have to get out of scarcity to not act like you are in scarcity. This is why so much of this sub is focused on self improvement and self acceptance. Finding inner drive and contentment will achieve this. Crying about a flake shows he isn't in the right mind set yet. But you know, it could be good. Maybe he needed to let it out to start making his … | /r/seduction | 22/01/18 06:30 PM |
| 2 | The real truth about text game and why you're focusing on the wrong thing.Ok. I misread the sarcasm in your previous post. It sounded like frustration. Good for you. | /r/seduction | 21/01/18 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Screwed up another date with low confidence/Sneaky shittestsI highly doubt this was about failing any perceived shit tests. It sounds more like a confidence issue, plain and simple. | /r/seduction | 21/01/18 08:01 PM |
| 2 | The real truth about text game and why you're focusing on the wrong thing.That's exactly right. But you're thinking being that really attractive guy is out of reach for you. You're thinking of a Hollywood image of what that guy should be. | /r/seduction | 21/01/18 07:55 PM |
| 1 | The truth of day game (in major cities)I think this very dependent on the city. Where I'm from, people are fairly open. Walking around downtown can be very productive. | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Got a first date tonight, any advice on touching/escalating?The trick is to start with minor acts of compliance and work your way up. The very beginning could be something as little as "hey, take a look at this" (showing her something on your phone, but making it so that she has to come to you). The general concept of taking the lead applies her. So you have to get away from the mindset of: "Can I touch her? What will be her reaction? Will she explode?" to "Listen to me. Come this way. Get over her so I can touch you" Of course, this is the mindset. Thes… | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Suffering from "Not good enough-itus"I would suggest getting professional help. Do some research and find a therapist that can help you achieve your goals. EDIT: It's expensive but you said you are doing well. May as well invest in yourself. | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 05:57 PM |
| 72 | Had the best Cold Approach everdon't let random strangers around you be the reason you didn't approach a girl. This is still a big sticking point for me. Good job on approaching on a bus. Baller. | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 05:50 PM |
| 0 | Asking a girl about what exactly went wrong and turned her off?I didn’t suggest offering me a painkiller as a “move”, just like, common human decency lol. Ya, I know... it's still a great move though ;) | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Asking a girl about what exactly went wrong and turned her off?Ya that was good feedback. Especially the part about him pushing too much for sex. I bet he felt bad about it. Males tend to be very goal focused. It's not that they don't care, it's just that they get distracted by the end goal. I think what you said about offering a Tylenol or something is great. Its not only a great move, it's also a reminder for guys to be in the moment, which will help a lot more. | /r/seduction | 19/01/18 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Thank you bros! You guys have a bigger impact than you think!Congrats! I wish I would have learned all this when I was your age. The world is yours my young player. | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Asking a girl about what exactly went wrong and turned her off?Love it. Great answer. | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 10:00 PM |
| 3 | Asking a girl about what exactly went wrong and turned her off?Males and females are different, and have different sexual selection strategies and so the rules of attraction are different. Let's flip this. Let's say you're utilizing typical, alpha male, PUA reproductive strategies or whatever. You were having sex with a girl that was a hb6 because it was convenient, but something better came along and you decided to make some changes to your roster. She asks you what went wrong and wants an honest answer. How much room do you really have for honesty? Think … | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 09:36 PM |
| 1 | How can you tease/have fun with shy/reserved girls?I would say you just do it more subtly. Like when you are teasing or flirting, make it like a little secret between you and her. | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 09:20 PM |
| 2 | How can you tease/have fun with shy/reserved girls?nail. hammer. head. Shy people will feel insecure if you are obviously adjusting your behavior for them. In a one on one situation, where they are more comfortable, you can probably tease and flirt with shy girls with much better results. | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 09:19 PM |
| 2 | The 2 Elements of "Confidence"For #2, I like to imagine that life is a giant video game that I am in complete control of. (Barring anything illegal of course). Ultimately, nothing is stopping you from getting up and leaving any situation that is not working out in your favor or you have lost control of. Of course, there are some exceptions, like when you are working for example. You have to remind yourself that you are choosing to be in a situation to achieve long term goals, but when it comes down to it, you can STILL walk … | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Randomly Blocked Prior to Date, Convo Posted: (Thoughts?)It's probably nothing you did, like others posted. One tip: you are using her name a little too much. It's coming off as a bit desperate/rapport seeking. | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Is it best not to say "hit me up to hangout sometime?"I think he is conflating this with anti slut defense theory. With ASD, the idea is that you need to make sex your fault. Essentially, she always needs a way not to feel like she is the initiator of sex since that would make her a slut. Sometimes, she needs to put up some last minute resistance to feel like she isn't being too easy, or to feel like you aren't perceiving her that way. (slut shaming is a strong thing) Eg: Her: I''m kinda tired. I think I should go home. You: Listen, come back to my… | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 06:33 AM |
| 6 | Is it best not to say "hit me up to hangout sometime?"You have to gauge this yourself, but a lot of girls will play hard to get a bit. It's easy enough for a guy to pretend to take the lead with one sentence, hidden behind a screen. But if she remains vague and non committal, then she can see if you really know how to lead. This is more applicable to Tinder and online game. If you've built a connection in real life and she likes you, then yes, she will usually suggest an alternative; she'll make it easier for you. Edit: I should also add that you w… | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Approached a lady, and the world didn't end.Maybe the coffee was a payment for the drawing? Regardless, if they were from Montreal then they were probably open to a threesome. Or at the very least would have taken the proposition with humor and not have been offended. | /r/seduction | 17/01/18 05:50 AM |
| 3 | As a woman, how do I help my male best friend get a girlfriend or an FWB?You can't directly. A man who needs a woman to help him find other women will not appear attractive. You would have to be fucking him, or at lest pretend to be. There's nothing wrong with a guy who has female friends, but there at least has to be some of them with potential sexual interest in him. If he's the nice guy that none of his girl friends would actually fuck, that's not particularly attractive is it? | /r/seduction | 16/01/18 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Negging detection from then female perspectiveThe first one: A backhanded compliment: You're really pretty for an Asian girl. I actually laughed out loud. That would work SO WELL on an Asian girl. Maybe not as direct though. The point is though, that you really have to observe women on women backhanded compliments to learn negging well. They are amazing at it. | /r/seduction | 16/01/18 06:14 PM |
| 1 | What does Mark Manson mean by saying "Be honest"?Neediness is when you need something from other people (the woman in this context), in order to feel a sense of self worth or validation or completeness, etc. Withholding personal information is not. | /r/seduction | 15/01/18 11:27 PM |
| 2 | gaming a girl vs talking to herUnless it's strictly professional, I am always "gaming" women. This doesn't mean that I am trying to fool them into anything. I am just aware of the dynamics and I try to create sexual tension/tone, which is calibrated according to the social situation. This may or may not work, but I am always planting seeds. You never know when/if they may sprout. Sometimes, it's not about sexual tension either. In their day to day interactions with men, very attractive women are used to men trying to please t… | /r/seduction | 15/01/18 08:59 PM |
| 2 | What does Mark Manson mean by saying "Be honest"?You can (and I think SHOULD) hide this. You don't have to be 100% transparent to every woman you meet, because some guy wrote something in a book. If I don't say that I lost it to a hooker, does it count as neediness? No, you are not understanding neediness. Realistically, you should never have to say this. Who are these people/women that are pressing you about your past sex life? If it is women, then they really don't need to or want to know the details. They are probably trying to gauge what k… | /r/seduction | 15/01/18 08:51 PM |
| 7 | What’s your opinion on this, Seddit?Let me start by saying that I'm not defending her reaction; I'm just explaining it. It's essentially the result of beta game (ie, most guys). Beta's believe (or have been taught) that seducing a woman involves building rapport and comfort with her. The problem is, they ignore the first and most important step of seduction: building sexual tension. From her point of view, if you are building rapport and comfort without sexual tension, you are being friendly. When you later come out and express se… | /r/seduction | 15/01/18 07:47 AM |
| 8 | Approached a lady, and the world didn't end.I wasn't there but I'm sure it's safe to assume that "draw me like one of your French whores" was uttered at one point. | /r/seduction | 15/01/18 07:10 AM |
| 1 | “I can never tell if you’re serious or sarcastic”One thing to add: keep this up, but make sure you give them a glimpse of your true self. That is, be vulnerable and genuine in certain key moments to give her the impression that there is a side of you that only she can see and is privy to. Woman love the idea that they figured you out by themselves while you remain a mystery to most people. But that's it. Just small glimpses here and there. Nothing more ;) | /r/seduction | 13/01/18 08:20 PM |
| 0 | “I can never tell if you’re serious or sarcastic”No, this is good. Especially if it's coming from a woman. This is one form of ambiguity that women love. It can come off as try hard if it's forced, but if a woman actually says this to you, then it's working. The only source I have is Corey Wayne about keeping women guessing and about ambiguity, but I'm sure there are a lot more sourses and theories. More importantly though, this works in practice. | /r/seduction | 13/01/18 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Totally stumbled into this on accident but I had no idea this line would work so well. Feel free to try it out in your own venturesHead explodes | /r/seduction | 11/01/18 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Asking a girl out through snapIt's not about this girl only, but she is a girl I would like to ask out and could have an opportunity to do so easily. So do it then. What's the issue? Anyways, what is your advice? Get over her? Get over what? You have no relationship with her. What is there to get over? I think you are not aware that you are in scarcity mode and in oneitis. You need to learn more. Seek out the resources available in this sub. Anyway, just ask her out. The worst that can happen is a no. This sub is not about w… | /r/seduction | 10/01/18 08:24 PM |
| 3 | Asking a girl out through snapYou feel like you are into a girl that you never had a man to woman relationship with and haven’t seen in a year?? My friend, this has oneitis written all over it. You have built up an idea of this girl that you are infatuated with. It almost certainly won’t work. If you go into this curious about her and wanting to find out more about her to see if you actually like her, then maybe it could work. IF you manage to shake off the oneitis. | /r/seduction | 10/01/18 06:38 PM |
| 2 | What's the ONE first step to take today if I [40M] want more success??You can’t outrun a bad diet. All the energy in the world isn’t going to help you. Focus on your diet and you will have incredible gains in terms of appearance. Your energy will also go up, which will make working out a natural second step, which will multiply the effects of your good diet. You don’t need energy at all to get amazing results at first. Diet diet diet. | /r/seduction | 10/01/18 03:48 AM |
| 10 | Yes, Complimenting Women Works and It Is AttractiveYour SMV will likely appear to be low if: you are complimenting them via Tinder, FB, etc, with no context. you are doing it face to face but not genuinely, or doing so in a outcome dependent way. You can appear to have high SMV if: You do it face to face, in a confident, genuine and socially competent way. you do it online or via text, but she has some context that indicates that you have high SMV (eg, really good social media marketing of your "brand") I say appear because it's very difficult f… | /r/seduction | 10/01/18 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts about "Models", by Mark Manson?I get it. I don't really care if they like the real me. I just want to have 5 or so FWBs. So in my case, 3% man is better in terms of practical advice. I'm not saying Models is wrong, just saying what style/advice you select might depend a lot on your goals. | /r/seduction | 09/01/18 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts about "Models", by Mark Manson?I was reading 3% Man by Corey Wayne will texting a girl, and Models while dating her. My behavior was affected to the point where the girl notice incongruity. I think she liked the "3% Man" version of me better. :D My point is that my mistake was taking too much of these books/tips at face value, which in my defense, is normal at the beginning. There's no easy answer, but I guess it involves taking ideas and applying them to your goals, personality type, where you are in your game at the moment,… | /r/seduction | 09/01/18 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Alternate ways to phrase "let's get a hotel" without being sleazy?haha. I've never tried that on a first date. I'm pretty sure it would work if the right chemistry was there. But... I need to work on more basic things first :D | /r/seduction | 08/01/18 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Alternate ways to phrase "let's get a hotel" without being sleazy?Sometimes the direct approach is best :) | /r/seduction | 08/01/18 04:54 PM |
| 8 | Guy coming over to my place tonight, how do I prepare and what should I do to seduce him and help him feel comfortable?Oh that’s nice :) I think you might be putting a bit too much pressure on yourself. Speaking for I think most men, his first time will be memorable no matter what. I think that if you have a good time, he will enjoy it more. Men get turned on when the woman they are with gets turned on. I think that is generally true. As for him staying the night... just ask him? | /r/seduction | 07/01/18 09:40 PM |
| 5 | Alternate ways to phrase "let's get a hotel" without being sleazy?I’m in a similar situation. I’m thinking of just saying “let’s go back to my place”. It’s a fairly standard phrase, that sets the right expectations and agreement. Once she’s committed to that, she’ll likely accept a “change of plans”. If she’s game, it doesn’t really matter. Just come up with something somewhat plausible. i forgot, my friend is visiting from out of town. my place is too far away and I’m getting tired. I know somewhere... my place just got fumigated you look so hot right now, I … | /r/seduction | 07/01/18 09:35 PM |
| 12 | Guy coming over to my place tonight, how do I prepare and what should I do to seduce him and help him feel comfortable?Sounds like you are more experienced than him and that you don’t mind taking the lead a bit. This is it, essentially. We don’t know how clueless he is or what would or would not make him more comfortable. As a girl, I imagine it would be a turn off for you to completely take the lead. So you want to make it easy for him to take action, correct? Depending on how insecure he is about being a virgin, you might want to let him know in some way that it is a non issues with you. If you are uncomfortab… | /r/seduction | 07/01/18 09:23 PM |
| 2 | do girls seek validation of men they don't find attractive?Definitely. One theory is that men seek validation from women by having sex with them. Women seek validationon from men by getting attention from them. So you will definitely see some women who are not interested in you sexually, but will go out of their way to get your attention. Once you’ve committed, and played your cards, she’s gotten the validation she needs and no longer needs you. She’s won, in other words. Keep in mind that this doesn’t always apply, this is just general validation seeki… | /r/seduction | 07/01/18 07:15 PM |
| 3 | I was dumped this morning after three dates because the girl didn’t feel a connection, this keeps happening. How do you create a connection?Are you meeting these women on tinder or something similar? If so, then you are more likely to encounter women who are looking for something casual. If you are giving off a relationshipy vibe then this might be their way of bailing out. Another possibility is that you are investing in them more than they are in you. This could be another reason that is killing attraction. Of course, this is just basic, general stuff. Without knowing much about your situation and what you are doing... who knows. | /r/seduction | 07/01/18 07:06 PM |
| 1 | The 5 worst cities in North America for men.PUA is frequently and publicly shunned. Really? I never got that impression. How do you mean? EDIT: If anything, it seems that guys aren't very direct. Girls tend to react positively, since they don't see it often. That's my impression anyway. | /r/seduction | 06/01/18 01:43 AM |
| 1 | The 5 worst cities in North America for men.This is based on limited info and anecdotal, but... I recently came back from Montreal and Ottawa to Vancouver. I was getting more Tinder matches on the East coast. The women tended to respond more quickly and not be so hard to get. I even had 2 or 3 that texted first. This never happened in Vancouver. As far as actually getting out there, I don't find Vancouver THAT bad. Women are not as unapproachable as you might think, depending on which scene. What could be a "no response" or "fuck you" in … | /r/seduction | 06/01/18 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Wanna truly know a woman? Ask her to cook with youPickled carrots are surprisingly good! | /r/seduction | 05/01/18 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Wanna truly know a woman? Ask her to cook with youI love cooking with a girl! Especially when it ends up with her using a carrot as a dildo while I cum in her mouth. | /r/seduction | 05/01/18 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Ultimate goal of self-confidenceThis may or may not help: If you look at it from the perspective that everyone is your friend (or at least potential friend), then instead of looking at people as better than you, you can appreciate them for their qualities. "Cool, I have an awesome friend". Or at least, "I'd like to get to know this person better, they have this awesome quality that I find fascinating". | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Ultimate goal of self-confidenceA sustainably confident person doesn't act this way. I agree with you in theory. We should all work to be truly confident. In everyday life, there are highs and lows. I dunno... there's something to be said about riding out a high and being in state. | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Getting in statelooking at it like a game you can literally win seems inauthentic in a way This whole sub is heavily influenced by game/pick up. I would suggest that you explore these ideas with an open mind. Game doesn't entail in-authenticity. | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Need Advise On MILFS/COUGARSThis. They will make it easy for you if they like you. Just be honest, without making her feel like a slut. You still have to pretend that sex is your idea and take charge. Instead of saying I want something with no strings attached, you can say something like I'm looking to date, and just see what happens. | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 12:56 AM |
| 1 | I'm awesome, you are awesome, WE are awesomeThis is awesome. Now I just need to find an awesome girl to be FWB with. Actually, five. Five awesome FWB girls. Then my life will be awesome. | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 12:15 AM |
| 25 | Ultimate goal of self-confidenceI totally agree with this message in spirit. But honestly, when I'm on a high and feeling on top of the world, I'm in a state that I am better than everyone else. I'm not even comparing myself to others, because I truly believe that I am better... Comparison is unnecessary. And you know what? People react positively to this, for the most part. It's fucked up. But yes, I agree. One should learn to find true confidence, whatever that means. | /r/seduction | 02/01/18 11:48 PM |
| 2 | First date ideasThe girl is not going to care how good you are at bowling. It's about having a fun, goofy attitude about it. Just don't throw the ball like a faggot (not that there's anything wrong with being gay; just don't be straight and act gay). And don't over compensate by throwing super hard either. It's fuckin bowling. It just fun. Don't take that shit too seriously. Last time I went bowling on a date it went from high fives, hugs, to kissing pretty fast. I couldn't care less what the score was. She was… | /r/seduction | 02/01/18 11:33 PM |
| 5 | First date ideasI could use help with this myself. First date venues with side by side seating. In my area, almost all bars/pubs have restaurant style seating. This means that a table for 2 usually involves a face to face arrangement, not ideal for physical contact. If you can find circular bunks, they are usually meant for bigger groups. An alternative is sitting at the bar itself, which may come off as forced, depending. Another one is finding a small circular table where you can sit side by side, but there h… | /r/seduction | 02/01/18 03:04 AM |
| 1 | She said she wanted to grab drinks multiple times and then stopped responding?I look at numbers as leads. If they've gone cold/dead, then neediness isn't really the issue. Sure, texting needy shit isn't going to get you a close. But neither is doing nothing. At that point, I usually text something that keeps the door open, and stand by the "product" I was offering. If she changes her mind great, the offer still stands (but I will have a better position ;) At the same time, I'm letting her know that I'm walking away and not chasing her or being pushy. | /r/seduction | 31/12/17 05:15 AM |
| 7 | Flirting with a touch. Advice needed.Upper back and shoulders are good places to start. It's not necessarily flirty or sexual, which makes it safe as a first touch, but can be done in a fairly dominant way. It's a good way to get initial feedback. A more risky one is lightly grabbing a girls hips. Key word is lightly. It's not so much a grab as just controlling her for a second or 2. I usually only do this if I get the right vibe from her. There needs to be some kind of IOI on her part, or an existing familiarity between the 2 of y… | /r/seduction | 31/12/17 12:35 AM |
| 3 | So apparently I have made the mistake of setting up dinner as a first date, how can I make it go well?You could try grabbing drinks and appetizers at the bar first, if the place has it. It's a more relaxed atmosphere and sitting side by side will allow for touching, kino, etc. | /r/seduction | 27/12/17 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Conversation skills that trigger girls to engage and talk?Solid plan. Don't forget to breath into your genitals | /r/seduction | 26/12/17 01:39 PM |
| 9 | How do I even reply to this?For tinder, my experience is that you don't have to over think it. I live in a fairly big city. Just a few friendly exchanges and then I pretty much just go into asking her out for a drink. The point is to meet up in person, not get a texting buddy. Women seem to feel the same way, from what I can tell... | /r/seduction | 25/12/17 03:42 AM |
| 27 | How do I even reply to this?It looks like you only have to set the time and place at this point. Unless I'm misreading this completely, she just needs to be "convinced". I would personally just take the lead and say "great, this is what we're doing..." | /r/seduction | 25/12/17 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Going back to hers"with hair pulling and choking". Jesus... I guess I'm doing it wrong. | /r/seduction | 23/12/17 03:54 AM |
| 2 | Not sure this the roght place but how to be known for more then just being "smart"?Coming from idiot6978. | /r/seduction | 23/12/17 03:45 AM |
| 4 | Girl calls me out on my game. What do I do?Curious: why not wish her Merry Christmas? | /r/seduction | 23/12/17 03:43 AM |
| 2 | Signs Attention and ValidationIf I were a good PUA, I would say that you have to recognize that all women are validated by attention. The trick is to first use the initial attention seeking behavior she is wanting from you and create a dependency on her part. By withholding it at the right time, then giving just enough at the right time. Once you have created this dependancy, and she is completely hooked, you switch it to a system where she only gets your attention and therefore validation, in a sexual manner. That is, you a… | /r/seduction | 20/12/17 07:00 PM |
| 1 | How To Make A Girl Like You Again After She's Checked OutThis will be useful... <Evil laugh> | /r/seduction | 12/12/17 04:52 AM |
| 0 | What went wrong here? Really bummed because this girl was absolutely gorgeousYou're insane. All the projection is yours. I've spoken out against white knighting before. No where in my post do I suggest women don't like dick. I'm just pointing out the physical reality. If you can't understand this or if you can't understand what it would be like for a woman to feel like a slut, then there is a part of game you are missing. | /r/seduction | 11/12/17 03:26 PM |
| -16 | What went wrong here? Really bummed because this girl was absolutely gorgeousMaybe. But have you ever stopped to think what it's like to be a woman though? Like actually? You will meet a random guy that you met online. Likely, so that he can pin you down and insert his penis inside of you. At any point before, during or after this, he can over power you physically and you would be completely at his mercy. So ya, sometimes women flake. Can you really blame them? How much trust are you willing to give some random stranger? Like if he had a pill that would make you instantl… | /r/seduction | 11/12/17 05:37 AM |
| 8 | [FR] I went for it.Cool. Don't be afraid to make a move and escalate on girls. This is a big mistake that most "nice guys" make. You have to take charge. Girls aren't that helpless :) They will make sure they do not isolate themselves with you if they really are not interested. Learn to escalate physically. You will almost certainly find that she is more receptive to advances early on. If you wait too long, and then make a move, it will seem incongruent and she will actually be MORE likely to be creeped out. If sh… | /r/seduction | 07/12/17 07:05 PM |
| 16 | [FR] I went for it.I hope you got her number! It sounds like you are pretty young and inexperienced. It took a lot of guts to approach a group of girls like that, so well done! Firstly, single women are very open to meeting guys at weddings. It's actually a great place for this. All you have to do is open and be friendly. Secondly, the "how do you all know each other" line is a perfectly good opener, so that was fine. You did that right. I think your overall assessment is good: sometimes, all you need to do is ope… | /r/seduction | 07/12/17 03:18 PM |
| 3 | what do you 'qualify' girls with?Yes! "I read that true 'game' is about not showing your interest/intent until she has first." This is just shit. Regarding qualification: you can use it as a measure of attraction, just like physical escalation. For example, if you talk about your interests and passions and you see that she attempts to qualify herself based on those, then that's a good sign. It's also a small investment she is making into you. For me, if I sense a younger girl is maybe attracted, I will often bring up the topic … | /r/seduction | 03/12/17 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Got called out for following /r/seduction in a different subredditWhat this guy is doing is white knighting. tony15215 is coming from a frame where women must be manipulated, fooled, duped, tricked into sex. The only other "noble" option is to make them fall in love with you for sex. He is seeing himself as protecting women from the predatory "non-noble" options. What game is about is switching frames completely. Imagine for a moment that we come from the underlying assumptions that women love sex and women love to have fun. We are not boxing them into a role … | /r/seduction | 02/12/17 09:03 PM |
| 15 | Got called out for following /r/seduction in a different subreddit"pick-up lines" This is NOT was this sub is about. "learn to communicate with the other gender and have relaxed fun in mixed social groups." This is exactly what this sub is about. "as you stop putting the pussy on a pedestal you're going to have a much easier time attracting women." Again, this is exactly what this sub is about. This person doesn't really understand game. In fact, a lot of high value women will prefer a guy who has game, because those guys "get it". There are definitely some sh… | /r/seduction | 02/12/17 04:22 AM |
| 13 | Nobody Owes You AnythingExcept Gary. Gary owes me 20$ | /r/seduction | 30/11/17 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Is it too late to kiss herAre you sure it was a date? Did she know it was a date? | /r/seduction | 29/11/17 07:11 PM |
| 4 | 28 years old female virginYou are going to tell your therapist that you have deep seated issues with shame about sex due to your religious upbringing. You deserve to find a romantic and sexual connection with a man and therapy can help. | /r/seduction | 29/11/17 05:28 PM |
| 14 | Mentally masturbating so much right now.You know the answer... | /r/seduction | 28/11/17 05:40 AM |
| 13 | How do I stop "bucketing" girls into either "girls I'm trying to lay" vs "girls who are friends"? I tend to interact much more naturally with girls who are just friends.However when there's a girl I'm actively trying to seduce/date, I don't interact as naturally as I would with one of my female friends. This is because you are outcome dependent. Instead of looking to get a positive reaction from her, try giving yourself like you do with your regular friends or female friends. This is called being vulnerable/genuine. It's hard to do because you want the person you are interested in to view you in a positive light, and avoid risking having them view you in a nega… | /r/seduction | 27/11/17 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Are my standards too high?The stats you are thinking of were put together by the founder of OK Cupid. You can search for "Ok cupid blog" to get more info about this. Exactly WHY this is is a bit of a mystery. BUT, knowing what we know about how female attraction works, my guess is that given only visual information about males, females will rate males quite harshly. This is because a HUGE part of attraction for females is related to much more than just physical appearance. It's likely either that most men are not communi… | /r/seduction | 27/11/17 09:01 PM |
| 5 | Don't fear the friend zone.I can't see them introducing you to her friends. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it but if you are friends then: She put you in the friend zone therefore doesn't look at you as a high value mate. Why would she think you are good enough for her (high value) friends? She is keeping you on the back burner. She's not going to introduce you to her friends in that way. If you're cool with the back burner, you would keep the attraction alive and wait for the right time. She is genuinely your friend and will … | /r/seduction | 27/11/17 08:45 PM |
| 8 | Low confidence guy with ''above average'' looks seeking helpOne important note: talking about your emotions is great. Being vulnerable is attractive to most women, but it is important not to be needy. You must be genuine without expecting anything back from her. This means: You're not looking for sympathy. You're not looking for her to make you feel better. You're not trying to impress her or otherwise get a reaction out of her. You are simply displaying that you have emotional intelligence, maturity, openness and awareness. As a man, you are 100% capabl… | /r/seduction | 26/11/17 05:02 PM |
| 56 | Oneitis, and how to get over itFuck a bunch of girls, be safe, be honest, have fun. Make sure you do step 4 before doing this. Oh great. Super easy. | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:37 PM |
| 1 | A few days, attraction gone...NP. Consider that you MAY have missed the boat here. You might have to rebuild attraction, or it could be too late. You'll have to figure that out. | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:26 PM |
| 5 | A few days, attraction gone...Should I appear aroused by her? Uh... not sure what you mean, but probably not. And how can I do that with so many people around? You are the man :) You need to make it happen. You have to find a way to get her alone. You have to take the lead. | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:15 PM |
| 2 | A few days, attraction gone...I really don't know enough about your situation to know if this actually applies, but... You have to consider that women have something you can think of as an anti slut defense. In her mind, she may have been super flirty with you, holding up a sign that pretty much says "fuck me" (or whatever your 16 y/o equivalent is). If you are a guy that doesn't recognize this and make sex "your fault", ie make it happen, then she will not pursue things further because she doens't want to be a "slut". Or, i… | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:06 PM |
| 10 | Be Humble."Constraint breeds creativity". Love it. | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:48 AM |
| 119 | Be Humble.By the way you kiss | /r/seduction | 24/11/17 06:48 AM |
| 1 | She replied after 17 daysI wouldn't necessarily believe her excuse, but it doesn't matter. There could have been a million reasons why she didn't text you before. She's interested now so, go for it. I don't know where you are at, but general advice: if you don't want this to go the friend zone way, then escalate early on. Kino. Spike her emotions. Etc. Be the fun guy. | /r/seduction | 22/11/17 05:50 PM |
| 2 | I'm so insecure about my lack of relationships and experience that it sabotages me from getting anyYou made yourself vulnerable, which can be good, but also needy, which is bad. I don't have specific advice for you, but to break out of this vicious cycle of neediness, you need to discover something about yourself that is worth giving. Something that you feel happy to give to people, that adds value to their lives, and from which you need nothing back in return. EDIT: I should have been clearer. Once you come to accept yourself and love yourself, you will know that you don't have to offer anyt… | /r/seduction | 21/11/17 07:25 PM |
| 1 | [VIDEO] Lies Women Tell You (A+) Newbies Watch ThisThis is really good. I really like Tyler's philosophy/outlook. It's making me reconsider game. A lot of what he talks about seems well rooted and researched. | /r/seduction | 20/11/17 03:36 PM |
| 1 | I hate the way this sub has goneI'm curious too | /r/seduction | 19/11/17 01:58 AM |
| 1 | I fucked upInteresting. My life is in order and I have no problem talking to girls, for the most part. I think I need to try to focus on being more fun (spiking emotions, escalating) and working on existing insecurities. The insecurities are not so significant that it's preventing me from meeting women, but it is limiting the number and type I am meeting, and my ability to escalate. | /r/seduction | 17/11/17 11:11 PM |
| 2 | I fucked upI guess romcoms and media in general are to blame for the most part for this nonsensical notion of women as these virtuous little creatures that just need to be catered to enough to bring out the perfect little angels that they are. No one has said that. This is all you projecting. Anyone who claims that women in general aren't hypergamous and manipulative by nature is either full of shit or completely clueless. https://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/ Both sexes are guilty of that,… | /r/seduction | 17/11/17 05:27 PM |
| 3 | I fucked upThanks. That's so classy, tater tots. | /r/seduction | 17/11/17 01:33 AM |
| 1 | I fucked upYa maybe. | /r/seduction | 17/11/17 12:36 AM |
| 4 | I fucked upNo not at all. With the few women I did see, I couldn't help but see them as complex individuals with flaws and insecurities of their own. I don't know if we all should be playing games with each other. | /r/seduction | 17/11/17 12:26 AM |
| 12 | I met a girl and we've hung out a few times, and I really like her. I can feel the neediness kicking in and I'm not sure what to do about itI've come to this realization recently, but take my advice with a grain of salt; I'm a beginner. It is true that it's about neediness. But it's also about something else. In the seduction phase (before she is your girlfriend), women don't want comfort or respect. I'm not saying disrespect them, I'm just saying they haven't earned that yet. If you give them these things, it will turn them off. (Obviously, you want to give them enough comfort by showing them that you are social and well calibrated… | /r/seduction | 15/11/17 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Bad Advice: "Just Be Yourself"Totally agree. Although I'm guilty of that a bit. Not because I'm trying to put up a front, just because I'm honestly trying to grow/change. So there may be inconsistencies in my behavior, which girls often pick up on... oh well.. Learning. | /r/seduction | 15/11/17 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Bad Advice: "Just Be Yourself"When girls say "be yourself" it means be genuine. Example: I was talking to this girl on a first date and was explaining the kind of things that I like to cook. It was coming out naturally since we were talking about food. I was not trying to impress her. I saw her eyes light up and I realized after that she found this attractive because: 1 - She likes a guy that can cook 2 - More importantly, she could tell it was coming out naturally; not for her benefit. This turned her on even more. So find … | /r/seduction | 14/11/17 09:27 PM |
| 2 | How To Become The Best Version of Yourself<flicks> | /r/seduction | 14/11/17 08:35 AM |
| 3 | Though it's a fun video, look where confidence can get you.This is great. I honestly love it. But there's no way to tell how legit it really is. Part of what is fascinating with this though is not just the confidence aspect of it, it's how he sets the"social tone" or whatever. He creates a reality and sticks to it, and people follow along. | /r/seduction | 13/11/17 11:39 PM |
| 1 | What to do if catfishedThere are flattering angles, and there is completely misrepresenting what you look like. From the OPs comment, it seems like it's the latter. I'm not saying burn her house down / disrespect her. But there is no need to accommodate individuals who will intentionally waste your time. | /r/seduction | 13/11/17 01:15 AM |
| -1 | What to do if catfishedI disagree. She was dishonest. If you are a high value individual, you should not tolerate this kind of behavior towards you. I would be polite, but firmly tell her this is over. "You know why" is a good enough explanation. | /r/seduction | 12/11/17 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Said she has a boyfriendSource | /r/seduction | 10/11/17 06:31 PM |
| 5 | 19yo virgin. Advice?I bet it would depend a lot on the guy. If he came off as a confident, highly social guy who was being genuine, you'd probably be a lot more receptive. Hell, I would and I'm a straight man! With shitty nails. | /r/seduction | 09/11/17 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Girls keep flakingIt may not be specifically that. Are you initiating anything physical though? Touching, kino? | /r/seduction | 08/11/17 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Date excalationAre you taking about a situation where you two are alone together at your place? Dude... I don't think it's really about not knowing what to do. It's that you're afraid. Just remind yourself that she wouldn't be alone with you if she didn't trust you. You need to start something, anything. If she's uncomfortable or thinks it's going too fast, trust that she will tell you and be receptive to what she says. If you're looking for the right moment, it almost never happens. You can semi create it. Sa… | /r/seduction | 07/11/17 08:18 PM |
| 1 | A question about the concept of vulnerability (From the book Models by Mark MansonThis is a good question. I think that making yourself vulnerable is good. But you have to learn to love and accept yourself first. Part of being vulnerable and honest ties in to his idea of polarizing people. If you are honest about who you are and unashamed, then you will attract people, but also repel some. Playing it safe and being a neutral nice guy is not fruitful or satisfying. That being said, it doesn't mean you have to be an open book to every single stranger you meet. Being open about … | /r/seduction | 06/11/17 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Some examples of how to behave like an alpha male.This is interesting but Hollywood has been notoriously bad at feeding men bullshit about attracting women. In this particular case, I wouldn't read too much into it. It plays out an outdated 70s-80s, male (possibly sexist) fantasy. For example, if a woman rebuffs your advances 8 times in real life, I'm not sure it's great advice to keep pushing for the kiss. I mean, you could make some generalizations about how Harrison Ford exemplifies attractive male qualities, but the whole point of seduction… | /r/seduction | 03/11/17 10:23 PM |
| 5 | Should I be ashamed of having sex with a chubby girlThat could also be true. I don't even know myself anymore! But in a good way... Rediscovering | /r/seduction | 01/11/17 08:13 PM |
| 18 | Should I be ashamed of having sex with a chubby girlI know this sounds shallow but I enjoy sex with women whom most people consider 5-6s, but there is something about them that I find particularly attractive. It's like they are more grateful for the sex. More into it. | /r/seduction | 01/11/17 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Is the Scarcity Mindset Sabotaging Your Dating Life?That's reasonable. There's just so much to think of. For example, am I being myself and genuine or falling back into my old self? I'm I applying skills that I learned or putting on an act? Approaching too much or too little? Is she looking for comfort or is this a shit test? Pulling or pushing? Is she chasing? Arrrrrr There's so many things to analyze as a beginner. | /r/seduction | 31/10/17 09:05 PM |
| 4 | Is the Scarcity Mindset Sabotaging Your Dating Life?The problem though is that if you do it shittily, then you are not helping create a abundance mindset. You may actually make it worse. Before, you could fantastize that once you start approaching, you will learn to attract women. After many rejections, you might start thinking that your options are even more limited than you originally thought. I really thought the answer was to start approaching when I started all this. Now I'm beginning to think inner game is more important. You have to be in … | /r/seduction | 30/10/17 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Getting in shape has destroyed my dating lifeI think you know the answer. It's pretty clear that being on drugs allowed you to avoid dealing with feelings of shame and lack of self worth. You need to deal with that now, with therapy or in some other way. | /r/seduction | 29/10/17 05:11 PM |
| 2 | First kiss attempt rejected, not sure what to make of it.Well she said "not yet". That's a good sign isn't it? If she said "I'm not interested in that" or "let's just be friends" then that would be bad. Maybe it just means not yet... | /r/seduction | 28/10/17 01:45 AM |
| 3 | Why do girls never tell me about their boyfriends? (College)This is another reason you should make your sexual intentions clear from the start an/or escalate quickly. You could be friend zoned. Maybe they like the attention. If you start escalating from the start however, they might be receptive or not. But you'll have an answer and can move on without wasting time. Edit: you also have to keep push pull in mind. | /r/seduction | 27/10/17 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Do girls shit test via text?Sounds like now she's chasing a bit. Reply to her accordingly; like you are the one being chased. | /r/seduction | 26/10/17 11:06 PM |
| 2 | What do you consider as a quality woman?Honestly, I had some notions about what those were before that I'm not sure of anymore. I am in the process of redefining myself, so I look forward to rediscovering what I really want in a woman. By dating a lot of them :D | /r/seduction | 26/10/17 05:17 PM |
| 1 | How do I escalate physically when I always have cold clammy hands?You gotta use your dick then | /r/seduction | 26/10/17 02:36 AM |
| 2 | The 8 Commandments Of Self ConfidenceThanks for the pep talk Joe. I needed that today. | /r/seduction | 24/10/17 11:15 PM |
| 3 | She's asking what to wear?Dinner at my place. Bring your pyjamas. | /r/seduction | 24/10/17 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Need to shift my text game to kill my neediness right now, post suggestions pleaseCool. I should get a cut from Corey... | /r/seduction | 24/10/17 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Need to shift my text game to kill my neediness right now, post suggestions pleaseGood luck. And as others said here, keep your options open. Always be creating opportunities with other women. | /r/seduction | 24/10/17 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Need to shift my text game to kill my neediness right now, post suggestions pleaseI suggest looking at 3% Man by Corey Wayne. I don't necessarily agree with some of his theories, but he does have a lot of practical advice in this matter. Better yet, he explains exactly WHY and HOW neediness is a turn off for women. Once you understand this, you'll realize that women are not just "playing games" to be fickle; they are doing what they have to do, even if they are not fully conscious of it. | /r/seduction | 24/10/17 01:02 AM |
| – | Given the recent posts,what is your experience on building a good social circle from scratch?This is amazing info but what I think is on everyone's mind is: How did you avoid getting raped by a zombie? EDIT: Fuck all yall. I ain't breaking frame | /r/seduction | 23/10/17 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Need to shift my text game to kill my neediness right now, post suggestions pleaseI get you. I read this more as "I need to fix my neediness" rather than "I need to get this girl", but I think we don't really have enough info. | /r/seduction | 23/10/17 10:54 PM |
| 15 | Need to shift my text game to kill my neediness right now, post suggestions pleaseChanging oneself involves changing your behavior. Giving the op practical advice regarding this might lead to positive results, which will help in his long term goal of changing himself. It sounds like he's aware of how he is, wants to change it, and is taking action. | /r/seduction | 23/10/17 05:10 PM |
| 14 | How detrimental is seeing hookers? (situation inside)Don't feel too bad brother. I'd say keep the drinking under control. Use it as a social lubricant. Drink enough to be more social and lower your inhibitions, but not more. You have to find that zone. Maybe try one drink every hour. | /r/seduction | 21/10/17 05:54 PM |
| 10 | You are what you WEARI've heard some PUAs actually suggest against this. They say it projects the provider chump persona. They want to work the pure sexual attraction angle. | /r/seduction | 20/10/17 10:36 PM |
| 1 | How's your love life atm?35M. Doing day game now for self improvement. Got 1 number out of it that probably isn't going anywhere. Another number from night game; same. Another from Tinder; dead. I really want to work on day game in the hopes that I can get into a state of self amusement and have things flow more naturally and genuinely. | /r/seduction | 20/10/17 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Non-Response After Texting Giving Her My NumberThanks for this. As a beginner, I've been too focused on the #close as a modest goal. I can see now that the whole concept is flawed. | /r/seduction | 19/10/17 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Getting coffee with a girl before our class today... How do I not fuck this upDon't put your dick in her coffee. Hmm.... Interesting strategy | /r/seduction | 19/10/17 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Getting coffee with a girl before our class today... How do I not fuck this upThe biggest way you can not fuck THIS up is having the confidence that there are literally millions of other girls you can date. | /r/seduction | 19/10/17 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Game advice for the youthful looking dudeI suggest cougars. | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 11:39 PM |
| 0 | Approaching?I believe I did this during my last approach. Nothing spectacular; just a #close. Like I said I'm a beginner. I honestly don't recall the interaction very well (I should have taken notes that same day) and I don't think it would be useful to detail here. Just a general mood/feeling. I told her she was attractive fairly early on, but there was a bit of time where I let the "we both know why I'm here" moment linger on for a bit. What worked for me is the genuine, unashamed "frame", if that is what… | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Getting Vulnerable About My PastCorporal punishment dude. Holy shit. Not capital. | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 10:02 PM |
| 2 | What is better?You will get more out of life if you view every possible encounter with another human being as raw, exciting potential, male or female. Worrying whether you are alpha or beta in a group just makes you an insecure, unattractive asshole. | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 08:37 PM |
| 2 | Approaching?Beginner here. I would say neither. It all depends. What your style is. How you're feeling at the time. What kind of vibe you're feeling from her. There is no fixed rule. When you are approaching a girl, especially a good looking one, she knows what's up. What I found works for me is just playing with it. She knows that you know. You know that she knows. That kinda thing. It builds up a bit of excitement and humor. | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 08:23 PM |
| 1 | I have been approaching more and I want to know What am I doing wrong in approaching? My failures are affecting my confidence and my academics. How can I help myself?A little tough love here. I think the reason people have a hard time early on is because they think PU and approaching is like a magic trick that will get you laid or get you a GF. It sounds a little wierd, but approaching is not about getting the girl. It's about working on yourself, and developing better social skills by doing something that is incredibly terrifying for most men. Eventually, you will get results with women, doing a cold approach or otherwise. | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Save, these six lessons I learned, to your camera rollThat's true. I like that. When women are subject to cognitive biases it's like "THEY ARE IRRATIONAL! OMG HORMONES!". With men "oh well, it's due to cognitive biases unfortunately. Science and such." | /r/seduction | 18/10/17 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Picking A Girl Up On The Train In SydneyVery useful. This is one of my problems with approaches. I'm constantly imagining an audience. I had a few clear green singles today on my walking break. Coy look, followed by eyes to the ground. A couple of clear smiles and eye contact. I didn't do anything... grrr. | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 09:42 PM |
| 1 | The dangers of alpha vs beta male thinkingNP. I ain't getting in your van though. | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 07:36 PM |
| 6 | Would Tinder be worth it for below-average/average looking guys?Tinder is awesome! You just have to swipe right until your thumb bleeds, and then go on a date with a mediocre looking girl. /s Man up, go out and meet girls. | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Save, these six lessons I learned, to your camera roll1- Yes. Yes you can. Sometimes, as crazy as it sounds, some women just want to fuck. If you don't recognize that and go for it, then she'll find someone else. There's no magic formula. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slow. As surprising as it is, she's an individual who you will have to interact with to gauge this. 2 - Ok. Kinda useless, but a truism. Get off the god damn computer/phone and go talk to women. 3 - Sure. Push pull. 4 - That's fine, but how do you apply that? Going out solo is f… | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 04:54 PM |
| 18 | Save, these six lessons I learned, to your camera rollAgreed. Actually, most of this is dumb. 1- Yes. Yes you can. Sometimes, as crazy as it sounds, some women just want to fuck. If you don't recognize that and go for it, then she'll find someone else. There's no magic formula. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slow. As surprising as it is, she's an individual who you will have to interact with to gauge this. 2 - Ok. Kinda useless, but a truism. Get off the god damn computer/phone and go talk to women. 3 - Sure. Push pull. 4 - That's fine, but ho… | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 04:45 PM |
| 4 | The dangers of alpha vs beta male thinkingThis vid nails it on the head. I've been thinking about this too and have come to accept the term alpha as it is used in the community as a misnomer. It's more about being confident, and true to your values and goals. This will naturally transform into leadership qualities that others will sense. People will start to turn to you for validation and this is when you might start to feel alpha as fuck. It's not really alpha in the standard, biological sense. Essentially, inner game is what makes you… | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 06:04 AM |
| 2 | I think I pinned down what the source of my AA is.Sure. Which one? The main post or the edit? Really liked your video on the danger of alpha male thinking. I'll comment on that one. | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 05:53 AM |
| 1 | I think I pinned down what the source of my AA is.From the bottom of my heart I was thinking "Wow that dude got some massive balls". For real. Respect. | /r/seduction | 17/10/17 12:19 AM |
| 1 | I think I pinned down what the source of my AA is.You're an action taker, I like action takers Are you qualifying me bitch?! :P | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 11:15 PM |
| 2 | I want to approach three women tonight at leastI'm a beginner myself. What I found helps in the early stage of the game is to just do it, instead of trying to "win". Think of yourself as Ben Stiller in a goofy comedy, where even if it's awkward as fuck, you can laugh at yourself and the situation. | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 08:33 PM |
| 1 | I think I pinned down what the source of my AA is.Or will there... Aw ya | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 08:21 PM |
| 2 | I think I pinned down what the source of my AA is.Really? That's cool. I want to believe that. But I get the feeling that there are a lot of unfulfilled, powerless and bitter people just wanting me/us to fail. In the end, they don't matter though. | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Had good success online, want to get into cold approach more. I live in a big city (NYC) and the lack of significant eye contact is crushing my ego with this. Most girls walk by looking kinda mad/stone faced. Not sure what to do. How much does this affect cold approach game?Just makes me feel so unattractive/like a huge loser. You will have to break out of this outcome dependence attitude. One of the fundamental concepts that you will see here is that you must to learn not to need others' reactions to you as a form of validation. Don't get me wrong... I live in a place where people are a lot more friendly, and it feels great when you catch a woman's eye. NYC is totally different though. I imagine women have to be stoned faced to get through the day. Anyway, it soun… | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 07:21 PM |
| 5 | 5 tinder "hacks" that will AT LEAST double your matchesFuck Tinder | /r/seduction | 16/10/17 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Is it even worth approaching?I would not approach girls in the gym in this case. He needs a separate environment where he can experiment and allow himself to be adventurous and possibly fail. If he gets one hard rejection, it could mess with him and that may affect his motivation to go to the gym. | /r/seduction | 15/10/17 05:44 PM |
| 1 | telling hot girls you think they're hot as an open?The reason your friend got laid is likely due to what was COMMUNICATED rather than what he said specifically. There are no magic words that are going to "get the girl". AFC: "You're hot. Please sleep with me. Don't reject me though... oh god please don't reject me. Please sleep with me? Oh please please please. You're so hot" Jake: "I am attracted to you. I'm confident enough to leave that out there and you can do with it what you like. I'm having fun right now, in this moment, and with my life … | /r/seduction | 15/10/17 05:12 PM |
| 1 | About to close but then she says she thinks of me like a brother?She would ask her brother about the size of his dick?! This bitch be crazy. | /r/seduction | 14/10/17 09:15 PM |
| 1 | The key is to stop caring what people think of you, especially what beautiful women think of you.SUGGESTION: Breaking this up in paragraphs would help readers a lot. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 08:37 PM |
| 3 | The key is to stop caring what people think of you, especially what beautiful women think of you."That's another reason why you shouldn't care, because we humans aren't telepaths. We project all kinds of stuff that are likely to be completely off the mark." I like this. This is key. We are all insecure beings with badly flawed assumptions of what others are thinking. Breaking out of this means freedom. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 08:36 PM |
| 1 | help textingShe already gave you her number... I wouldn't wait to long to take ask her out. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 08:08 PM |
| 2 | help textingI don't know if I have any specific advice for you, but from what I've found, it seems that women prefer GOOD replies rather than timely ones. Take your time and combine that with strategies you learn from here or elsewhere. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 06:55 PM |
| 10 | How to pull a girl to your place if it's small, sucks and has not even a couch?Scents dude. Scents. Look up "diffuser" on amazon. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 06:51 PM |
| 5 | Do Men Enjoy Being Dominant? And Do Women Enjoy Submission? Yes.I respect that. But I would be wary of drawing general conclusions on the nature of men and women based on those. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 06:44 PM |
| 29 | How to pull a girl to your place if it's small, sucks and has not even a couch?She's not gonna agree to go back to your place unless she wants to fuck you. Clean it up as best you can and invest in scents. Make it smell nice. EDIT: Shit. I didn't mean that as forcing yourself on her. She is an individual and can change her mind at any time and you should respect that. Just saying that it's usually a done deal at that point. Just make sure your place doesn't gross her out. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 06:40 PM |
| 7 | Do Men Enjoy Being Dominant? And Do Women Enjoy Submission? Yes.I just want to go on record as saying that this entire thread is pretty much based on pop evo psyc 101 bullshit. But... carry on. | /r/seduction | 13/10/17 06:38 PM |
| 2 | My journey to finally getting laid. A full break-down.Just learning all is this so bear with me. I imagine push pull is almost impossible without the mind set of abundance. If you're exclusively focused on a girl, then pulling back is really hard and counter intuitive. | /r/seduction | 12/10/17 02:16 PM |
| 29 | My journey to finally getting laid. A full break-down.Dad? | /r/seduction | 12/10/17 02:12 PM |
| 1 | I'm looking forward to rejectionI guess we'll have to disagree. I don't believe you. The only way I think you are going to get good at approaching hot, intimidating women successfully is by having practiced a lot. Which means having had the experience of being rejected by a lot. This ain't coding son. | /r/seduction | 11/10/17 08:31 PM |
| 0 | Enough with the "eye contact" and "smiling" bulls$*tI have to agree. I couldn't believe that post made it up so high. Just basic... If you want to make progress, you have to do the shit that scares the fuck out of you. For most of us, it's approaching women. | /r/seduction | 11/10/17 01:46 AM |
| 2 | I'm looking forward to rejectionI think you missed the point by taking the title too literally. The point is looking forward to the pain of training. If you don't enjoy putting in the work, you will never be great. | /r/seduction | 10/10/17 02:48 AM |
| 2 | What resources are there for street or walking conversations with strangers? It’s always a beta cringe when I pass women on the sidewalk.Think more about giving than receiving. What do you care? It's just a smile. And you know what? Making yourself smile more will make you happier. Weird, I know. But it's like... science and shit. | /r/seduction | 09/10/17 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Is it safe to assume that "signs" that a girl likes you are bogus and you should just go for it every time?Learning to hone in on the girls that are attracted to you will definitely help your results. But going for it every time and increasing your numbers is always the best strategy. You'll learn from rejection more so than when a girl actually likes you and makes it easy for you. (Although you should always take that, of course :) | /r/seduction | 09/10/17 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Getting back into the game... sharing a few thoughtsHa! Ok. Well, social intelligence might come naturally to some but not me. I think a post game analysis like this is good for me to learn a bit more. Realizing what I did that displayed low social intelligence after the fact, and writing it down will help me improve and display higher social intelligence in the future. This isn't only for women, it's about personal development that will affect all areas of my life. | /r/seduction | 09/10/17 01:58 AM |
| 1 | 2 Personality Traits That Make You Better Looking - "Positive personality traits — like helpfulness and honesty — make people appear physically more attractive, research finds."I probably missed out on so much.... :( Thanks for this though. This is great advice | /r/seduction | 06/10/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Single, sexually frustrated and ready to put a hole through the wall...This is it. We have to stop thinking of it as a loss of this or that girl. There will be many rejections. The more the better. It's like excersise; you are working to better yourself. | /r/seduction | 04/10/17 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Not hated by anyoneI haven't read the book, but I wouldn't start with trying to be hated by anyone. Instead, try to focus on what you want and having the confidence to do it. It's about having the confidence to do what you want, and doing it without shame or fear, because you are doing it for yourself and truly feel that you deserve it. You can do this without being a douchebag. You can do it with consideration for others. But when you learn to be empowered like this, there are always people who will hate you. Thi… | /r/seduction | 03/10/17 06:23 PM |
| 1 | The Science of Seduction Part 1- How To Attract Women Using the Power of ScarcityThis is great advice and I don't mean to undermine it at all. I just thought I'd present an alternative scenario: You are applying these tactics, and you think scarcity is working. However she is simply a tease. She wants you close enough to feel that's she has your attention. When you make yourself scarce, she reaches out to you, but ultimately always keeps you just out of reach. This highlights the importance of keeping your numbers up. | /r/seduction | 01/10/17 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Weird situation with a girl I like"I'm asking you as a pal, you know I'm into ____, right?" Wow... this says it all. I think it's pretty clear you've lost here. If you want closure, I would answer with a nothing-to-lose attitude. Something like: "I have no clue what ____ thinks, but I'm really into you though" I dunno. Maybe something better. But ya, this is a really long shot. Think of it as closure more than any real chance. She made it pretty clear you are a the friend, and the other guy is the stud that makes her hot. The fa… | /r/seduction | 01/10/17 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Finally asked her out.Could you describe the approach and why you think it worked? | /r/seduction | 01/10/17 04:07 AM |
| 53 | How NOT to do it!!What you guys don't get is that he put that ungrateful bitch in her place and proved he's actually a really nice guy. That has BOOSTED his attraction level like crazy. He can now start hitting on her friends, who will be super receptive. | /r/seduction | 01/10/17 04:00 AM |
| 13 | I am extremely sensitive to being ignored and I fucking hate itI didn't quite get that. Could you repeat it 5 times? | /r/seduction | 01/10/17 03:49 AM |
| 5 | Women Love Good VocabularyMy vocabulary and verbal skills have gone down significantly since a medical condition I had that affected my sleep. I realize now how that used to be a big part of my game, back in the day. I am recovering now, and trying to get back into it, but ya... lack of sleep is REALLY bad for that. This is why I am trying to work on my day game a bit more, when I'm wide awake, caffeinated and alert. | /r/seduction | 30/09/17 07:03 PM |
| 4 | I've been friend zoned by a guy. No idea what my next steps should be.he thought being physically intimate with someone should be reserved for couples. Might he be really religious or some shit? Cut your losses and move on. | /r/seduction | 30/09/17 06:57 PM |
| 15 | Tinder lowered my confidence to approach womenThanks. This reminded me of why I deleted Tinder in the first place. Deleted it again. And Bumble. And Happn. Fuck that shit. These apps have taken all the manliness out of it. It takes absolutely no courage to swipe right. Then we let the women do all the choosing. Having the balls to approach women and the social skills and confidence that goes with chatting with them will set you apart and put you in control. | /r/seduction | 30/09/17 06:35 PM |
| 2 | **Women are sadden by this act of their close male friends**No idea about your specific situation. If your impression of her is correct, and that she's a "lots of guy friends" girl, then is it much of surprise that she has commitment issues? I'm not saying she's cheating hooking up with others or not, I couldn't possibly know. But what do YOU want out of it though? If all you want is a casual thing with no commitment, then that's great. If not, then ya... bad news. My personal view is that these girls need the attention. They need to constantly feel want… | /r/seduction | 30/09/17 04:49 AM |
| 6 | **Women are sadden by this act of their close male friends**Ya sure... I tend to stick to the following and it's been great since then: if a girl tells you, or otherwise conveys that she is the type that has lots of guy friends, get the fuck out of there and don't look back. There are probably a lot of theories as to WHY these girls are the way the are, some wrong no doubt, but sticking to this rule will avoid lots of bullshit. The worst is that they will sometimes blame you for developing romantic feelings for them if you do. Like "All you wanted was to… | /r/seduction | 29/09/17 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Is it a good idea to say to a girl outright "I want to kiss you"I'm not sure I would say that but it might work for you. I saw it suggested here that one trick is to say "wait...". Then you've got a pause, eye contact, and you can lean in and go for it. This gives her a chance to see it coming a bit too so she's not completely off guard. The variation of this that's worked well for me is using her name instead, but in the same manner and tone: "Ashley...". | /r/seduction | 28/09/17 01:29 AM |
| 3 | when a guy jokes about having sex with youIMO You should never hit on anyone at work. For "real" jobs anyway. | /r/seduction | 26/09/17 11:02 PM |
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