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Dead ass lol. Come on I just want to live a little. If I can have a Valentina foursome then I'll be a legend.
/r/seduction27/08/20 05:25 AM
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No worries my man. Get a deck of chickenshit cards off amazon and thank me later
/r/seduction27/08/20 04:31 AM
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Get a deck of chickenshit cards off amazon. I play on the beach almost everyday and I'm cleaning up shop.
/r/seduction27/08/20 04:13 AM
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Texting is for logistics and girlfriends only
/r/seduction27/08/20 04:00 AM
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Don't text. Texting is for logistics only. If you really want to meet girls then you have to take a risk. Get a deck of chickenshit cards off amazon. It makes you do challenges with strangers so you'll end up meeting a grip of chicks if you play it anywhere there's girls.
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:57 AM
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Get a deck of chickenshit cards off of amazon, play it and you'll have a social circle in a week guaranteed.
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:51 AM
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Well if you are trying to build rapport over text then you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Texting feels like work for girls. They don't want to tell you about there day over text. Only call girls if you reallly need to talk to them. Texting is for logistics only
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:50 AM
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Don't ask a bunch of questions. I like to make assumptions about her like she looks french, I can picture her riding a bike in paris with a baguette. Let her correct your assumptions and try to make them entertaining. You want everything you say and do to seem like it's out of the ordinary an unexpected. Also get the IG if you're in America not the number, can't stress this enough. Don't forget to hold strong eye contact.
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:45 AM
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I only get the IG. Numbers are for suckers and girlfriends
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:38 AM
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I totally agree with you. People keep trying to tell me I'm missing some extra special bullshit that you can only find in a monogamous relationship but they are so full of shit.
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:35 AM
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Next time you see her jog up to her and stop her. Say Hey I'm glad I caught you real quick, I gotta go in a sec but before I do can you just fill out this survey real quick it'll only take 2 seconds. Then hand her your phone on the new contact page. While she puts her info in spit a lil game. Complement her on something other then her looks. Then make an assumption about her like you seem like you would be really into disney movies or something. After you get her number don't leave right away. T…
/r/seduction27/08/20 03:12 AM
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The night I got drunk was kinda just the last straw. It was a series of unfortunate events that got me here lol. She's definitely still into me but she has a warrped view of who I am. I barely care tho, already met 3 new baddies and I meet more everyday. My ego wants her to come chase me tho so I'm going to play the jealousy plot line with her and see what happens. Besides all that tho, I like her as a person and that's really why I wouldn't mind just being friends. I'll let my brother or one of…
/r/seduction17/08/20 03:05 PM
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I mis read this the first time. Yeah be friends with her but you don't want to end up as that guy that is pretending to be friends but really just wants to fuck her.
/r/seduction14/08/20 05:15 PM
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What you mean, I'm being salty? I'm definitely not salty about it, I think it's hilarious actually. I pick up girls almost every single day so it's hard to be salty when I'm living in such an abundance of women. Plus the situation is actually pretty funny because she actually went out of her way to seduce me and I just fucked it up in one day by getting blacked out drunk while she was over my house. I did a bunch of stupid shit that I don't even remember and the next day I was friend zoned lmao.…
/r/seduction14/08/20 05:11 PM
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Lol yeah ok. You have no idea
/r/seduction05/08/20 02:28 AM
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Thanks bro!! I don't really have much of a choice. I can't fuck with dating apps and I just love women soooo much
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:18 PM
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You ungrateful little trolls. You fools can't even see when you've been handed pure gold. It's a real shame
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:15 PM
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Loser lol
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:12 PM
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Yeah I'll take some covid for some pussy but that's just me. To each his own I guess
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:11 PM
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This is not an ad. Sure I own the company that made this game but I'm a legit pua and I'm being dead serious. If you think you have a better way if picking up girls during covid then I'm all ears but I almost know for a fact that there is no better way because I love pick up and I've been thinking about this for quite some time.
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:10 PM
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V
/r/seduction14/12/19 04:02 AM
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Bro I'm telling you that you have it backwards for sure. Instagram is more for betas then Snapchat. When a girl, or anyone in this case, gets a text, it's coming in at some random time when they are usually doing something else. They see it to make sure it's not urgent and then they never write back. I do this toy own friends that I want to talk to. The magic of Snapchat and Instagram is the state of mind they are in when on those platforms. You are on Snapchat and Instagram when you are bored s…
/r/seduction14/12/19 01:53 AM
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Well done. Do it 100 more times and it will get a lot easier. Do it 1000 times and you won't even think about it.
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:52 AM
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Good job, Next time take the snap chat. You will never hear from her again if you get her number without an insta date or make out session. Snapchat is much much better. I made this mistake too many times thinking I was being assertive. Fucked myself every time.
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:45 AM
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You backed out as soon as shit got real. You are a little bitch. Come back here and say you were wrong you pussy ass nigga. You are a coward.
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:37 AM
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I always win mauhahahahaha fucking stupid ass dummy ass nigga. Time to bask in my victory. Lame ass virgin ass nigga catch me in Snapchat and lets see what's what. Na you had to block me instead of seeing the truth lol. Fucking loser man
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:26 AM
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I always win in the end muah hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahabhahHagahahahahhHH even if you block me you will still know who I am eventually. You are in complete denial lol.
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:22 AM
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Lol me angry and frustrated? Bro you are making the most wildly incorrect assumptions about me. This is just how I talk, I'm not angry or frustrated at anything at all lol. I'm an ultimate pot head chill ass Buddha type person. I text how I talk but it doesn't come off the same way. Lol had to block me instead of just finding out by adding me on Snapchat lmao you are a fucking loser man lmao
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:20 AM
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Lol You are just using simple pain avoiding denial my man. Add me on Snapchat judahman8 stupid bitch this can be settled real quick. You will still chose to continue to live in denial rather than just find out for yourself, just like you chose not to use my killer opener. It's easier to ignore reality then deal with it.
/r/seduction12/12/19 10:03 PM
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Lol Why would I care if you or anyone on here believes that I'm getting laid? I would gain nothing either way so think what you want. Only someone who isn't getting laid would even think that way. I honestly was shocked when I realized how many guys aren't getting laid, I didn't even know it was such a problem. Don't get it twisted, I'm not on here trying to learn, I'm on here trying to help knuckle heads like you. I'm rich, handsome, I live in South Florida, I just turned 30 and I'm already rea…
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:21 PM
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You pulling girls yet or you still hitting the downvote button until your eyes pop out of your ass
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:55 AM
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Downvote yourself then you lame lol
/r/seduction10/12/19 10:58 AM
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And you can save the down votes simpleton.
/r/seduction06/12/19 04:35 PM
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You don't know what qualifying is if you think I'm qualifying to you lol. That's like saying me doing push-ups of my own free will is trying to qualify for the Olympics. Shows what you know about game, no one is trying to win you over, I'm trying to blow you out but you're too dumb to know the difference. That's probably why you aren't getting any pussy, you don't know the difference between someone despising you and someone trying to qualify to you LMAO IDIOT!!!
/r/seduction06/12/19 04:32 PM
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Yes that's right, I have extremely high self esteem and self worth. That's exactly why my life is like playing in a dream. You are the fool here that thinks he's smart, but you can't even see it. I wasn't unable to discuss the merit of what I shared, I chose not to. Big difference that you seem not to be able to grasp while trying to tell me I'm not understanding something. Ooof life is going to tough for you man. Nothing worst then a fool who thinks he's smart.
/r/seduction03/12/19 06:32 PM
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Oh you're one of those guys that likes to think he's smarter then other people. What are you in college? People who just got into college love to say big words and act like that makes them smart. Me and my siblings were already doing that in elementary school just to fuck with everyone, you're like 15 years late. It's childish and it ultimately just makes you look like an ass so you might want to cut it out. Going on a couple tinder dates with some sixes doesn't count as seeing two girls in my b…
/r/seduction03/12/19 03:37 PM
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Bro you definitely aren't getting any pussy, that's pretty apparent.
/r/seduction27/11/19 03:00 AM
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Well you didn't lol
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:08 PM
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Illogical response
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:08 PM
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Well almost all of my girls had boyfriends when I met them lol. High quality women are rarely single. I push as long as they are not married. Married people act too crazy, I'm not trying to be part of a murderer suicide.
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:07 PM
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Run into something like that at least once a night.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:56 PM
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Never ask a girl to dance. Most of the time I just dance next to the girl in my own world. Then when we lock eyes I put my hand out. If she wants to dance with me then she will take it. I never walk up to a girl and ask her to dance tho, that shit would almost never work if I had to guess lol
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:54 PM
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You were in the game and the clock was running but you didn't call any plays. You went for one hail Mary at the end of the fourth quarter and you honestly thought you were going to win the game like that? She opened you after touching you multiple times, which is a girls way of trying to get you to hit on them. Then you provide zero value in return after she does all the work because you obviously didn't get the hint. You don't provide any interesting conversation or funny banter. No kino escala…
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:51 PM
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You are doing it all wrong. Talk to as many girls in person as humanly possible and refine your game threw leveling up the hard way. Make sure you are learning plays to build up a good play book so your progress in game is solidified with each new play you weave into your game.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:27 PM
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Bro what are you talking about? I just gave you a killer opener that I'm completely abusing in the field and you're talking about what exactly? If it's technically an opener if you continue to talk to the girl? My lay count? Wtf ever Nigga take it or leave it, I really don't care. If I were you, I would just try it immediately and instantly find out how well it works. But me and you are not the same, I'm in the real world dominating it in every way. Now if you'll excuse me, the girls I met from …
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:20 PM
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Lol What are you talking about? I didn't invent anything. It's just a new opener that I came up with and it's my go to opener for the time. It's absolutely murdering in the field. What is the problem with you guys. You can't just receive new information without being weird about it or stating the obvious for no reason lol
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:04 PM
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I followed it up by laughing, using a false time constraint and stacking another opener the first time I used it. I said something like no for real tho I gotta head in a sec but do you think I can buy you some chick fila sometime. I've also stacked it into making a cold read about where she's from if she's not super warm already. But that brings me to a point. It's crucial to have plays that you can go to so you don't have to be some kind of inprov God to get a set wrapped around your finger.
/r/seduction23/11/19 02:05 AM
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Ok no. That's not going to give you the highest chances of pulling high quality women. When I see a ten that I want, I intend on getting her. I don't want to see what comes to mind and maybe something might work. I leave my life experiences up to chance as little as possible. I'm in it to master something not just get my dick wet.
/r/seduction23/11/19 12:41 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction23/11/19 12:34 AM
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Yeah obviously you can say anything but there are different levels of effectiveness. It's good to have go to plays and a large playbook to call plays from when your gaming as much as me. If your a regular nigga then say hi for all I care
/r/seduction23/11/19 12:34 AM
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You just don't lol. Na but for real tho, I just ask girls to come do shit that I'm going to do with or without them. I love bringing them to do normal everyday things as well. I want to show them what being in my life would be like I'm a natural setting. It's much better to invite a girl to something fun that you and your friends are already going to do for sure. If she turns it down then it's not a rejection to you, just the offer. Then you can brag about how she missed out and invite her to th…
/r/seduction16/10/19 03:00 AM
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Well I agree with you there.
/r/seduction13/10/19 10:44 AM
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Oh well fuck no then. Completely absolutely unacceptable. Have some self respect man.
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:39 AM
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It's terrible framing. If the goal is to make her chase you then blatantly chasing her by asking her out is obviously not the way to go. It's a good way to make a girl loose interest in you though.
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:37 AM
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You fucked it up by texting bro. Every text is lowering your chances dramatically. Now count how many text you sent her and you will see that you blew yourself out without ever even realizing it. Text are for logistics only. You didn't turn down sex you got curved. HUGE difference. You can't show so much interest. When she asked you to come over and have sex you should of played like you weren't sure if you were into her and make her qualify. You basically act just like a girl would lol. Even jo…
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:32 AM
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Lol tell her exactly how experienced you are and let her teach you what she knows. No need to be worried or nervous, she knows exactly what she's getting into.
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:23 AM
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Bro I would never go on a date with a girl I haven't slept with yet. Definitely don't go. Invite her to something you want to do with or without her and it'll be a win win. After all, girls want guys that seem like they would be having a great time with or without them and the framing is a billion times better.
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:20 AM
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Well my friend this is a classic framing problem that comes from asking girls out on dates. When you ask a girl on a date it shows an extreme amount of interest. This is why I never go on dates with girls I'm not already sleeping with. The entire point of seduction is to get them chasing you. If you asked her on a date then the entire event is framed as you chasing her. You can do stuff to off set it but why work from behind for no reason. The goal isn't to go on a fantastic date, it's usually t…
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:17 AM
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No no no don't do that
/r/seduction12/10/19 01:54 AM
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Well typically it's a terrible position to be in. You don't want to be in a position where she controls the social situation like this. I wouldn't have rejected the invite but I probably would of half ass accepted it and made it seem like it didn't really sound like fun but luckily I can have fun regardless of the situation. Who cares what I would of done tho, what you do now is what matters. At first glance you have two options. Dominate the entire social situation or use a jealousy plotline. I…
/r/seduction12/10/19 01:53 AM
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You don't. Text for logistics only if you can. Every single text brings you closer to your doom.
/r/seduction12/10/19 01:32 AM
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Lol ok weird guy
/r/seduction11/10/19 01:01 AM
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I'm just responding to random recent post genius, IDGAF about you bro.
/r/seduction11/10/19 12:35 AM
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You shouldn't of went on a date. Let this be the last time. DAFG Dates are for girlfriends
/r/seduction11/10/19 12:15 AM
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Love yourself and you will love and feel loved. You can't be given love fool it's within you.
/r/seduction11/10/19 12:08 AM
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If you aren't getting laid but you are still managing to build attraction with women there can only be a few problems. Game is just that, a game. So what level can do you keep getting stuck on? Are you getting girls back to your place alone and still unable to close? If you are into computers then all you have to do is trouble shoot the situation. You know it's possible to sleep with girls right? It's really not that hard. Let's figure it out real quick, it shouldn't be too difficult. You probab…
/r/seduction11/10/19 12:06 AM
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I always have the power of manipulation just about anyone regardless of the age. Bad argument.
/r/seduction10/10/19 11:55 PM
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Na you're good as long as it's legal wherever you are. Girls actually become sexually attractive way younger then 17 but everyone is trying to pretend that's not the case.
/r/seduction10/10/19 11:54 PM
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You are a failure. Do you feel hurt when you lose in a video game? The problem is that you are taking it personal when it's not. Figure the fucking game out and beat it, stop being a little bitch. This shit is way easier then Ninja gaiden on regular Nintendo. You probably have never been truly challenged in your whole life and now you have become a snow flake that melts under pressure. Sack up
/r/seduction10/10/19 11:52 PM
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Lifestyle differences my dude but girls can be exhausting in general.
/r/seduction10/10/19 11:49 PM
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Na I commented on the wrong post somehow. My b
/r/seduction03/10/19 07:52 PM
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Lol what you don't believe it? Numbers are so stupid easy we don't even count them as anything more than a high five. That is unless you get at least a kiss close first of course.
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:26 PM
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I really don't know but I'll think about it.
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:05 PM
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Lol yeah I don't believe those fools either. If they are for real then I'm sure they don't literally mean any girl. They probably mean within reason. People don't realize that just about every hot girl has a boyfriend so you have to pull her from her boyfriend instantly on a whim. That shits not easy nor is it something to be taken lightly. Like I can fuck people's lives all the way up. I don't even think I can pull 5 fine teens doing day game cold approach. However I can for sure number close a…
/r/seduction03/10/19 01:03 PM
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No I agree, MM isn't the only method nor does it define game. I'm not even talking about what method works best and there isn't necessarily anything specific you have to do to be running game. All openers are openers no matter what you call it or who's method it is. You have to be aware that there is even a structure of game in the first place to be running it. Everyone in the world isn't running game just because they are talking to girls. They aren't even aware of game. They don't even know th…
/r/seduction03/10/19 12:41 PM
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You say that but it's different when you can really do that. It's like wanting a bunch of candy but then when you get it you don't really want to scarf down as much as you can. Too much of anything can really hurt you. Yeah just like girls, guys can be 9s and 10s to where they become sought after by practically any girl. A lot of them do become famous. The others are just stupid or lazy lol. Na honestly fame can be annoying, as long as you're rich it's all good.
/r/seduction03/10/19 12:20 PM
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Lol Actually it's the opposite. I don't believe in getting high lay counts. I'm not impressed with high lay counts. It's ridiculously easy to sleep with a bunch of girls as long as you have the lifestyle. I don't believe in monogamy but I try my best to keep my lay count as low as possible. I'd rather sleep with the same two or three girl friends at a time. Better sex, better connection, less drama. I kinda get off on girls not being able to sleep with me lol. Having a ten throwing herself at yo…
/r/seduction03/10/19 11:45 AM
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I got you bro. Good role models are crucial too. Mine are Sadguru, Osho, Hugh Hefner and Dan Pena. Don't forget to get rich. It's about as hard as getting your bachelors degree and takes the same amount of time. The hardest part is self doubt. Once you do it you are going to laugh at how stupid simple it is. Of course that is if you aren't already rich. Dude good luck. I love seeing people trying to be better. Noone hardly even reads these days.
/r/seduction03/10/19 11:20 AM
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Honestly when I see infield videos I'm not impressed at all and I end up thinking I'm definitely one of the very best in the world so I understand where you are coming from. I can definitely sleep with a bunch of girls by just being a normal guy with no real game. But it doesn't change the fact that if I don't say the right things I get rejected a lot more. For example, if you are doing an opinion opener but you aren't saying a false time constraint like "I have to get back to my friends in a se…
/r/seduction03/10/19 11:09 AM
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Don't just thoughtlessly fuck prostitutes and shit like it's no big deal. Any sex you are having has a huge impact on your psyche. Do not take that shit lightly. Sex is one of those things that can fuck you up in the head at any age. Be very careful.
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:50 AM
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I can only go off of my own experiences. I never get any harsh rejections and hardly any rejections at all but I'm moderately handsome and I have ridiculous natural and intentional game. With that said, I promise you that if I go out right now and walk up to a girl and ask her if I can buy her a drink I will get rejected. So obviously what you say can make or break you at any point. I know what it is that makes up a girls rating scale and looks is just a small part of the equation. I'm a ten out…
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:44 AM
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Reverse it. Be friends with her and hit on her other friends and girls around her. Then tell her at some point that you are glad you ended up just being friends even though you are sexually attracted to her. Once she seems other girls want you shell start coming onto you. That is if you can pull other girls
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:09 AM
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No doubt
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:02 AM
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No no no no no. Terrible advice. You don't ever tell a girl your feelings. You show her by fucking the shit out her. You only tell her after you show her. Show her how you feel, don't tell her.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:56 AM
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The four agreements. The life you were born to live. The masterkey system. Get better
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:53 AM
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Nigga 8? I did more then 8 approaches the very first night. You're never gonna level up at that pace my dude. You should be doing like 2 thousand approaches a year if you want to get good before you die. Imagine if Kobe shot the ball 8 times during practice over the course of a two years. That's you right now.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:50 AM
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You never ask for a number. This is 2019, you should be getting the insta or snap chat off bat. If she gave it to you like that tho it was a curve. You showed too much interest. You should of said nevermind I don't really use Instagram, I'll just send my owl. Then you laugh and say na I do have one tho I'll add you or whatever but I'm never going to write you now for curving me like that in public so you're going to have to send me a nude or something to get me back interested. At least that's s…
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:46 AM
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They react directly according to if you are doing something right or wrong. For instance when I say a good opinion opener followed by a false time constraint I get good really good responses %95 of the time. But that is just the opener. You are being tested forever and she is responding to how well you are doing forever.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:40 AM
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"I saw you checking me out so I thought I'd come say what's up" only problem is you won't no where to go from there either. Read some books and all the side bar stuff
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:32 AM
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You don't control it. Best thing to do is re name it excitement. It's easy to do things you are excited to do.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:31 AM
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To each his own. For me and my lifestyle it just makes no sense. Like I always have better shit to be doing in the day time then randomly pulling girls on insta dates. Like I'll talk to girls in the daytime if it's convenient but I'd rather have brunch with the girl I met last night, hang with my boys or make big boy pants moves. I'm going to party at night anyways and I usually don't even wake up before noon so I definitely don't want to waste hours of my day talking to a couple of boring bitch…
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:28 AM
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I usually spin them around and dance face to face as well. You just kino escalate. You slowly get more and more frisky until the next natural progression is kissing. Once you already licked the sweat off her neck kissing her just seems like a given.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:16 AM
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Day game isn't practical. It's just less fun and you get worst results accross the board. It is good for practice and killing time tho.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:11 AM
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That'll get you blown out every time. An opinion opener in a bar scene would at least give you a fighting chance. The problem is you don't understand what doesn't work and why so even if you open a set well you will lose them in ten minutes tops. You have to learn by reading, practicing and using critical thinking.
/r/seduction03/10/19 09:07 AM
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Yeah, don't waste your time.
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:57 AM
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I wrote a letter to a girl in highschool once. I might finally have a chance to pull that girl in December of this year. That was 15 years ago lmao. Don't give her the letter and for the love of God do not tell her how you feel. This isn't a movie or some lame tv show. You show girls you like them by fucking them, you only tell them after you show them. Instead all you have to do is invite her to do something fun that you are going to do anyways. Until then just make fun of her and work on kino …
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:56 AM
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Talk to everyone, even people you don't really think you will like. Make it a point to say hey to every single person you have ever said a single word to. Opinion openers murder in highschool. Try something new everyday. Try something that puts you out of your comfort zone everyday. Participate in everything you can.
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:45 AM
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First of all never go on a date. Just trust me if it's possible. Your problem is that you are putting yourself in win lose positions instead of win win. For instance the classic kiss close "do you want to kiss me right now?" If she says yes you win if she says no you preserve value by saying "I didn't say you could, you just had that look in your eyes." The rejection basically never happened. You can do the same thing with just about everything. If I want to invite a girl to do something I'll sa…
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:37 AM
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It's not about pulling back. You just have to cover up your compliments and displays of interest. For example I'll tell a girl "your hair looks really cute today, but whats up with those shoes tho" or " I would never date a girl like you, but I'm not gonna lie I'd definitely hit that." This is basically push pull. It allows to give as much as you want, just make sure you are giving plenty of teasing and backhanded compliments as well lol
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:24 AM
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No
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:16 AM
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Read the natural by Richard la ruina.
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:15 AM
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Read all the side bar info
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:14 AM
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I feel like people are getting caught up in the specifics of what Mystery is actually saying and they are failing to see the principles behind what he's doing. I don't use almost any of the actual stacks he teaches really but everyone is doing an opener. A false time constraint is just that. Body rocking is a display of the concept of not showing too much interest. Bouncing and logistics are crucial. IOI's are a thing. Palm reading works. Kino works. Role play works. Routines can be extremely he…
/r/seduction03/10/19 08:13 AM
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You are probably boring. You can't have fun interesting conversations with ease unless you are a fun interesting person and you can't be a fun interesting person unless you do fun interesting shit. If you are trying something new and getting out of your comfort zone everyday then you will have fun stuff to talk about all the time instead of the same boring shit. If you ask too many questions and shit then you can practice just making assumptions about girls. Say shit like "you look like you woul…
/r/seduction03/10/19 07:59 AM
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You are making it this big deal because you think it has to be a everything on the line moment but it doesn't. You won't get nervous making a move if you are kino escalating because a kiss will be the natural progression of things. Besides that, just use a classic kiss close routine if you are really that nervous. When the moment is there to make a move just say. Do you want to kiss me right now? If she says maybe you say let's find out and go for it. If she says no then say "I didn't say you co…
/r/seduction03/10/19 07:51 AM
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Game isn't simply talking to girls or having confident body language no more than basketball is simply wearing sneakers and dribbling. Sure you can run around in circles dribbling with no rules, play clock or scoreboard and then claim you played a game of basketball but me and my boys are going to say, "that's not basketball". So I'll say it again, that was not game. As for Mystery, calling Mystery Method super old fashioned is like calling algebra out dated. Math doesn't get outdated like that.…
/r/seduction03/10/19 07:44 AM
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Like buddy said, highschool is all about social game. Don't do anything stupid like randomly asking her out all of a sudden. This isn't a fucking movie, or cold approach. You just need to ask her opinion on something and then use playful banter and push pull to build attraction. Once you are on speaking terms make it a point to talk to her every day. Always be a Little flirty and after a week or two invite her to do something with some friends. No date bullshit!! Bowling with friends or a party …
/r/seduction01/10/19 08:18 PM
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Write a comment.
/r/seduction01/10/19 08:08 PM
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Approaching too early isn't a thing. Never listen to a girls advice on how to pick up other girls because they have zero experience. Those guys weren't running game in my opinion they were just going up and talking to girls. It seems like this is being mistaken for running game.
/r/seduction01/10/19 07:25 PM
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Google The question game pua. You're welcome
/r/seduction01/10/19 07:13 PM
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I like going out solo but it's much more difficult and not as fun. I still do it all the time tho. My advice would be to get into any set as soon as possible and make a little home base.
/r/seduction17/08/19 01:06 AM
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That's a weird way of looking at it. If anyone is doing game and not getting results it's really easy to see what they are doing wrong. Almost noone is doing the simple basic shit you absolutely need to do like using a false time constraint. Wearing something that makes them look good and stand out, like a suit. Not using opinion openers. Having no canned material memorized so they are constantly thinking on there feet. Not making eye contact. Using bad body language. Not knowing how to hook the…
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:50 PM
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Why would it kill your heart? The whole point of ge is to increase your inner game outter game and lifestyle game as much as possible. These are only benefits to a man.
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:28 PM
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I suggested H&M because most guys don't know how to buy a nice suit or they can't afford them. H&M is going to be pretty cheap and it will be very hard to look stupid wearing one of there suits because they fit so we'll. When you ware a suit it gives you instant perceived value. Any set you open will be way less threatened, people will automatically show you more respect and you will feel like you look good which will make you act more confidently automatically. Just try it and see how different…
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:26 PM
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You need to send him this post. You just gave him the best compliment he could possibly get with this post. Tell him about this. Complete honesty is the biggest turn on for me personally. Seeing a post where a girl is asking strangers how she can best compliment me while simultaneously complimenting the fuck out of me would make me fall for a girl so hard. But only if I believed she had no intention of showing it to me when she wrote it initially.
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:39 AM
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Those are day game numbers, night game reigns supreme. It's undoubtedly worth it. To have the skills of seduction itself comes with so many bonus attributes. Paying an escort is of no gain. Gaining pussy by paying for it is a worst experience then jerking off in my opinion. You have to at least do it in a way that not so obvious to your subconscious.
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:28 AM
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You have to get into a set immediately. If I'm not in a set then I'm opening a set. The not drinking is actually only awkward for other people, they will start buying you drinks to feel better lol it actually makes you seem way cooler. No one is there to drink, if they wanted to drink then they can get way cheaper drinks at home. Everyone is going out for the same reason, to have fun!! If you provide fun then they will respond. That's why opinion openers, magic tricks and palm reading work incre…
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:22 AM
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Lounges, night clubs with a place to talk and bars. I only fuck with night game these days.
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:15 AM
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Note to self, don't date this girl.
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:13 AM
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Yeah the classic bring your neighbor some sweets works amazingly well.
/r/seduction18/07/19 03:10 AM
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Bro did you read the Mystery Method? I can't imagine that you really tried everything. Think of this like a video game, you can get good at it. You just suck right now which means you are doing things wrong. Buy a couple of suits that fit you from h&m so you can't fuck up and buy something way out of style. Read the mystery method then watch the pickup artist season 1on YouTube or Vimeo. Then read the Natural by Richard La Ruina. Then all you have to do is go out and practice each step in pickin…
/r/seduction18/07/19 02:55 AM
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Read The Mystery Method. Then read the Natural by Richard La Ruina. Then practice
/r/seduction07/07/19 04:12 AM
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Develope a large playbook full of stacks, routines and gambles that work best for your style. Open way more sets. Opening a set gives you experience points. Level up grind time, just like a video game. Organize your game into things you can practice individually, then master each technique one at a time. When you go out and try to just get better at everything you will get better at almost nothing. I focused only on the open until I can open any set with ease. Then the hook until I can hook any …
/r/seduction07/07/19 04:09 AM
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You have a playbook with a bunch of pre set conversation threads, routine stacks and gambles at your disposal. Having this stuff allows you to automatically lead the conversation in the desired direction. Routine stacks get a bad rep because they are extremely misunderstood and misused. The goal is to be spontaneous as possible and to fall back on routine stacks and gambles. Gaming without routine stacks and gambles is like playing football without a play book. Half of the game is spontaneous, t…
/r/seduction07/07/19 03:35 AM
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Knocking on the door would have been way better. You are too concerned with what you perceive to be weird. Gaming a girl in front of her mom seems super weird and every single cold approach is weird as fuck but what are you willing to do to get the girl. Weird as fuck is a lot better then basic as fuck and I'll be weird and get girls while you be normal and miss out. But you know that you didn't have to knock on her door, you are just excusing the fact that you didn't want to go outside of your …
/r/seduction04/07/19 03:34 PM
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You aren't what she doesn't want, she's not what you want. You can still probably pull those girls that said you are too short for them but you wouldn't want to so it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction03/07/19 05:21 AM
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You just do it. You will feel the anxiety and it's your job to override it with conscious thought and action. Think of the anxiety as excitement. When I feel approach anxiety I say it's because the girl is probably going to be really awesome and I'm just overly excited to talk to her then I do it
/r/seduction03/07/19 05:18 AM
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The problem is you tried gaming her over text. She's your neighbor and you only have the balls to text her. You should only use text to set up logistics not build attraction. Every text you sent out was another DLV until she simply became uninterested. I'm short, you blew yourself out by not progressing in person.
/r/seduction03/07/19 05:16 AM
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It's better to assume she likes you until you get completely blown out. You should friend zone her. Tell her " You know, I just realized that I might have been kinda into you had we met under different circumstances and we weren't co-workers. Then again maybe not. Oh well I guess we'll never know now. You still intrigue me as a person tho, so maybe we should hangout out side of work sometime as just friends. Is that something you might be interested in?" Then a little later invite her to somethi…
/r/seduction03/07/19 05:07 AM
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Here's the thing, no matter how cool or funny your girl is, there is a cooler and funnier girl that is also really hot. I think that's what he means by the best.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:39 AM
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No no no no don't directly ask her out. This is the biggest mistake you can make.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:36 AM
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Jesus Christ man. Google indicators of interest. I wait to notice about three before I try to kiss a girl and you got 300 coming from this girl a day. Are you waiting for her to confess her undying love to you? But be careful, usually the guy goes in and fucks everything up by abruptly asking her on a date out of nowhere or some random shit like that and fucks the whole thing up. You don't want the dynamic to change by showing that you are definitely interested in her for sure. It's fun for her …
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:35 AM
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Go get another one
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:19 AM
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No you haven't ever noticed a women was attracted to you before. Women are subtle with that shit and even when it seems like they are being obvious, it's still hard to pick it up unless you know what to look for. Mostly only really handsome guys get the super obvious shit like girls giggling and shit.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:17 AM
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Are you going out and testing stuff? No you aren't, is that not a fact? I however did, and my results will line up with anyone else who tested shit for themselves. But I'll answer your stupid questions, shit I'm stuck driving to North Carolina so why not. I'm calling people stupid who are talking about a subject that, from my perspective, they seem to know very little about, if anything at all. I've been hard focused on other very important goals this year so I haven't been cold approaching hard…
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:11 AM
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You don't understand the definition of bragging sir. Maybe English is your second language or maybe you assume as much about me as you do about what you think you know. You are simply someone who is not testing things out for himself because if you were then we wouldn't be having this conversation. You would already know for yourself. What you want is for someone to convince you this stuff works so that you finally have the balls to go out and really practice game. That's never going to happen t…
/r/seduction02/07/19 07:29 AM
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I certainly don't want more stupid people giving stupid advice, that's all I'm saying. And by stupid I mean on a specific subject obviously. Now I understand that you can't yet tell the good advice from the bad advice and that's part of the problem, but I can. Now you don't have to believe me, shit I don't want you to believe me lol. You can try anything I say for yourself. No amount of me bragging is going to make you go "oh shit this shit works!!" I do it right in front of people and they stil…
/r/seduction02/07/19 06:36 AM
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Considering the fact that you claim you don't even have any natural game tells me I bet that you wouldn't even notice if a girl was attracted to you or not. You probably have a very warped perception of reality at this point
/r/seduction02/07/19 06:08 AM
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We all build up beliefs in our head and we rarely figure out or even attempt to get rid of them. You have to learn how to use your mind. You basically have the ultimate super computer and you didnt even read the operating manual. Lucky for you a bunch of people wrote operating manuals. Hard reset your shit and try to forget everything you thought you knew. At least compartmentalize it, it's basically malware. Then download some new programs. Make sure the programs are made by people you want you…
/r/seduction01/07/19 05:33 AM
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You can't compare the false time constraint to a mere lie. It was %100 dude. Do you even understand the gravity of that. Look man back up from the elephant for a second. The concept that people are most afraid of you trying to stay too long without their permission is what makes the FTC so powerful. They feel this anxiety as soon as anyone cold approaches them. You alleviate it instantly and now they can't even come up with a reason not to earnestly hear out what you have to say. Bitch you can s…
/r/seduction01/07/19 05:13 AM
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A natural is just someone who learned game naturally. Think of a natural comedian, you think of a guy who doesn't meticulously study comedy, or take courses on it, or actively train with other comedians or something. He's just a guy who has a really good sense of humor for whatever reason. The whatever reason is the key tho. The reason you think handsome guys have natural game is because handsome guys have better circumstances to pick up natural game tendencies early on.
/r/seduction01/07/19 04:47 AM
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Yo why the downvotes lol people are weird as fuck.
/r/seduction29/06/19 02:01 AM
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Take the excuse me out next time and let me know if he see a big difference. I think you might. I always just say Hey and I can't remember why I decided that was the best thing to say. Also try modifying it with a false Time constraint. Maybe something like "Hey I can't stay long and I know this is a little forward but..." It seems ridiculous but that might work a lot better for you.
/r/seduction29/06/19 02:01 AM
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Bro it's really a huge problem that can turn into the worst mistake of your entire life. I'm really trying to save niggas from their fate out here lol
/r/seduction29/06/19 01:54 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 yoooo are you for real?
/r/seduction29/06/19 12:30 AM
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Ok now I guess I'll tell you how to turn this into more as well. You go pull some more girls and just when you all but forgot about this girl, she'll text you. Lol That's it, you won.
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:54 PM
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Go pull some more girls lol. Sounds to me like you are falling into the I have very few options booby trap lol. The reason I think that is because it's a friend of a friend. It's not some girl you cold approached and pulled and it's not some girl that you have had your eye on for a while and you finally pulled her. It's some girl that fell into your lap and now you are all psyched up because you went from zero options to one. So I'm just telling you this stuff as a warning. Typically you are goi…
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:53 PM
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That's excellent stuff my dude, definitely gonna use it tonight. It's so rare that I see someone post something so practical. You sir are a Wizard. Thank you good sir.
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:30 PM
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Lol yup. My bad, long story. I'll do it properly in a sec
/r/seduction28/06/19 10:01 PM
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Game is a subject that I care a lot about for whatever reason, probably because it has a massive impact on my life. I'm gonna be passionate about something I'm very passionate about obviously. To think that is a sign of someone being unsuccessful in a field is a folly on your part. Im not talking about a one size fits all solution to anything. Shit I use different styles of pickup that contradict eachother all the time. I'm not saying contradictory advice is automatically wrong either. I'm sayin…
/r/seduction28/06/19 09:48 PM
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What a long ass comment. Man I really must be in purgatory right now.
/r/seduction28/06/19 07:14 AM
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Yeah I can see why you would get that impression of me. I did read that comment right before I posted this but this isn't about that, although it's a good example. I love the Mystery Method too, you got that right, there's nothing like it. I don't know how long a fort night is but I came across Mystery about 12 years ago. This isn't about my ego, this is about accuracy. You don't know me so you don't know that if I say something about a subject that I claim to be well versed in, nigga you better…
/r/seduction28/06/19 07:13 AM
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Going up and using a false time constraint followed by an opinion opener with mixed in body rocking and then stacking a routine or two to hook the girls before using disqualification to get the girls chasing you, all while using embedded commands and trance words until you kino escalate to at least a kiss close that you pulled off with an amazingly timed kiss close routine. Lol that's what I mean by technique. It's one thing to just go out to the court and shoot around, it's an entirely differen…
/r/seduction28/06/19 06:06 AM
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You should be blown out but somehow you are still in there. Bro just chill out. You don't want to text her at all if possible. Only to set up the next meetup. You don't have to keep a text convo going until the next time you see her. You have no idea how many girls me and my boys blew out before we learned to just stop writing bitches all together. I think of every single text as a DLV for me and now I try to call or send video or audio msgs or I really just try not to even talk to girls not in …
/r/seduction28/06/19 04:50 AM
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Good job, now learn some actual technique and you will be on another level.
/r/seduction28/06/19 04:45 AM
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No there really is a lot of bad advice. It's mostly people commenting on someones post who is asking advice. Someone did kinda trigger me though lol. I tried to give this poor schmuck some wise words of wisdom about showing interest and some idiot is just like no thats wrong and then gives the guy the worst advice ever and the dude was like good looks I'll do that then because it goes along with how I already think. I'm just like what the fuc
/r/seduction28/06/19 03:05 AM
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Yes, you agree with the accusation then amplify it. You do it all the time with friends you just don't think that way with girls for some reason. You fat fuck. "I'm fat because your mama keeps feeding me every night." This is the exact same tactic socially. Imagine saying hey guys I'm not actually fat. You are gonna get roasted lol
/r/seduction28/06/19 02:48 AM
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It's funny because one of my favorite openers ends with me letting the girl assume I'm gay. What you think would be a weakness can be turned into your greatest strength.
/r/seduction28/06/19 02:25 AM
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You have to remember that not everyone is looking for the same thing. There's plenty of girls that I will blow out right away no matter how hot or awesome a girl she is. It's because she's looking for something that I'm not looking for. You want to avoid these girls. Now your fuck boy issue is the same thing as I'm too short or young or any shit like that. You gotta roll with it and amplify it. I remember this one girl said something to me like "you probably say this to all the girls" I said you…
/r/seduction27/06/19 07:31 AM
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Okay yeah listen to this guy then give me a follow up on the situation lmao. You probably blew yourself out with this shit before I even had a chance to respond. Guess you gotta learn the hard way. But let me be clear, you can ask girls on dates, shit you can do whatever you want and it will probably work sometimes. I thought you were asking about how to actually get the girl with a good chance of success, not how to definitely blow her out and move onto the next one lol
/r/seduction27/06/19 06:48 AM
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Bro just break up with her. Why are making shit so complicated
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:01 PM
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Bro it looks like you are just going out and seeing what happens. I don't see any direction or strategy in your game. For instance you should know by now that walking up to a group of girls and asking if you can join them has to be one of the worst things you can do and it should almost never work. But how do you not know that already? Break pickup into steps. The open, hook, comfort, close. Then work on each step until you master it and go to the next one. I practiced opening sets until I can o…
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:58 PM
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The tactics get built into your "normal" behavior after a while. You are creating new habits and after a while those habits become personality traits and then finally they become part of your character.
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:51 PM
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First you are going to want to stop setting up dates. You should invite girls to shit you are going to do regardless of if they come or not. At least make it seem that way. "Hey do you wanna go to so and so Saturday night with me?" Terrible!!!! "Hey I'm going to so and so with a couple friends Saturday night. You should come with!" Bingo!!!! No pressure, no being overly interested, and you can ask someone something like this every single day and even if they always say no then it will feel like …
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:40 PM
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There's only a point if you make it a point. If I'm going out to open sets and meet girls and i get nervous right before I do what I want to do then I need to override that programing and "force" myself to open the set. I'm forcing myself not to open sets for a couple more weeks because I can't spend the time on girls right now
/r/seduction22/06/19 07:03 AM
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Well my friend you live in the age of information. Read books, then practice what you learn. It's called social skills because you can learn them. You can't get better at anything if you give up.
/r/seduction22/06/19 06:58 AM
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Nothing
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:34 AM
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Read the mystery method and think about why the stuff he uses works. Then read the natural by Richard La Ruina. Eye contact. Kino escalation. False time constraints. Logistics. The question game. Opinion openers. Wear suits from H&M to start your wardrobe if you don't know what's up. Hit the gym. Open as many sets as you can.
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:34 AM
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Ok but you don't have any direction when you are talking to people. You are basically saying you go on the basketball court and jerk off for 12 hours a day and you still feel awkward shooting the ball and you aren't confident with your skills. You aren't practicing your social skills you are just passively sucking. You dont have the skills. You either try to learn them or you don't. Just saying I suck so what's the point is just giving up. Go ahead and give up, maybe it's not worth it to you. Th…
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:30 AM
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It's not impossible but it's a massive waste of time. Complete waste of time
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:23 AM
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Not the right moment means you don't have the balls or skill to pull it off in this moment or you genuinely are trying not to get any girls at this time in your life. Always try to pull and you will end up with some amazing stories.
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:22 AM
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You have to lean into the dynamic. I look 22 but I'm 29. Looking young at this age is always a plus. I just make jokes about how I'm so old with young girls and about how I'm so young with older girls. It's easy.
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:19 AM
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It's a lot of pressure. I only invite girls to do things it seems like I'm going to do regardless. Framing is so important. People are lazy by nature, never underestimate that shit.
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:16 AM
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It really is the hardest circumstances to do night game. I was going out solo a shit ton and what I would do is quickly lock into a set of guys girls or whatever. I remember one time there were these cool looking guys from Italy sitting there bored at a table and I just asked if I could chill with them. They said of course and we talked and got to know each other. They were pro motocross racer's or some shit. From there I just started opening other sets of girls and getting them to chill at the …
/r/seduction21/06/19 04:13 AM
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Yeah Im usually walking right up to the set with a purpose, usually if it's the first set or two in the venue. I usually go right after the hottest/funnest looking girls in the place so once I'm locked into the set, girls start gravitating to me. They all watched me come in having fun and go straight up to the baddest bitches in the place expecting me to get blown out like every other guy would, but instead everyone is laughing and giving me mad social proof. Every single set that sees this is n…
/r/seduction18/06/19 06:26 PM
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I gotta give props to Richard La Ruina on that one. Now with that being said I still like to straight up cold approach chicks that don't even look interested at all. My favorite is when the girls pick up their phone as they see me approaching lol. They think I'm going to be just like every other guy that has ever approached them. This is why I love this shit. If you just have solid game then it doesn't matter if it's a warm, neutral, or cold approach. I'm not trying to just game girls that show …
/r/seduction17/06/19 04:01 AM
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I missed you too bro!! Wait I don't know who the fuck you are lol
/r/seduction17/06/19 01:32 AM
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So usually as soon as I walk in a place I do something that makes everyone look at me like a dance move. But I'm laughing and having fun, don't think slick. Then I'll scan the room with my eyes and catch any girls that aren't just looking at me, but they have like this look of hope, or please come make my life fun, in their eyes. They lock eye contact hard and usually smile or something. That's it, now I have my first two or three targets. Hope that helps.
/r/seduction16/06/19 04:12 PM
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Lol I'm the chicken?
/r/seduction16/06/19 04:05 PM
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It's your perception of pickup that is messed up. Think of it as gaining social skills instead of just picking up women. Now think about the benefits of having amazing social skills. Not only can I pick up mad hotties, I can convince people to give me money, I can avoid fights and look cool as fuck doing it. I can make connections with people instantly. I can go out by myself and people will gravitate to me without knowing why. Just last night I was sitting by the hotel pool contemplating my lif…
/r/seduction16/06/19 05:45 AM
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Airbnb won't be tacky at all.
/r/seduction16/06/19 05:23 AM
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But all you really need is a deck of chickenshit cards http://kck.st/2Eap1U4
/r/seduction16/06/19 05:09 AM
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Lol do you really think I was contemplating over this for three days? Or was that a poor attempt at some kind of joke? Do you really think I'm delusional and I have mental issues because if so, you really shouldn't joke like that lol. How am I intimidated by you? What is going on here? Why are you so off topic? I'm telling guys how to best get out of the friend zone and you are just saying random shit and attacking my character that you know nothing about. Look there is nothing to argue here, if…
/r/seduction16/06/19 05:04 AM
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There are some girls I just never fully get over. Live with it man
/r/seduction15/06/19 06:32 AM
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First of all I'm not just a man, I'm also a God lol. Second of all I spend my time doing all kinds of stuff that is beyond most people's comprehension so I'm not surprised that you made all kinds of erroneous assumptions about me. I'm actually super nice to just about everyone, especially girls. you are bringing up all kinds of shit that is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the point at hand. A classic girls way of arguing some shit Lmao. Argue everything but the point. Look, at the end of t…
/r/seduction15/06/19 05:14 AM
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Is this a girl trying to tell me about game? Almost every time I tell a girl about some game they usually say the same thing, "that won't work" then my dick is in their mouth. You are the stewardess arguing with an ace pilot about how to fly planes. You just keep handing out drinks and I'll handle the plane.
/r/seduction12/06/19 04:28 PM
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I don't understand women? I understand women for fun. What I don't understand is why you would auto reject a gold nugget of pua wisdom. You either tried it and it worked, or you didn't try it and you are talking out of your ass. The damn technique works so well that I don't even use it any more. Actually you don't deserve this technique, it's better if you go on believing it's nonsense.
/r/seduction12/06/19 07:54 AM
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Easy bro, flip the script. Tell her you think she's right, it doesn't seem like you have the same intentions. So let's clarify our intentions. I want to hangout with a cool girl that I'm attracted to and really get to know, without any pressure, or expectations, or judgments about this or that. I don't want to rush into relationships willy nilly and I definitely don't want to be pressured into one for any reason. With that being said, sex is a crucial part of me getting to know a potential girlf…
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:49 AM
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Yeah you friend zoned yourself. There's a few easy fixes but first you need to take what I'm about to tell you to heart. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO YOU TELL THIS CHICK HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT HER BEFORE SHE DOES. Be stupid if you want but I warned you. So anyways the first fix is to friend zone her verbally while letting her know you find her attractive. You just straight up tell her you were kind of into her when you first met but even though you still find her attractive, you only see her as a good …
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:26 AM
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Wherever you are when you see a hot girl. Make time and go hangout where hot girls hangout
/r/seduction12/06/19 02:57 AM
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I implant the idea of a bounce early in the set to feel out the logistics early on by saying something like I'm starving and talking about possible food options or something. I disqualify myself by saying stuff like "I can come over for a sec but don't think anything is going to happen because I have to get up early tomorrow. Complete lie, I don't have shit to do tomorrow lol. Using weed is an easy one if they smoke. Really you just use any excuse to have an actual reason to go to the close loca…
/r/seduction12/06/19 02:56 AM
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The Mystery Method. The natural by Richard La Ruina. http://kck.st/2Eap1U4
/r/seduction12/06/19 02:05 AM
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I think you should invite her to hangout and take her back to your place to show her something neat.
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:52 AM
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Ok you just didn't know how to get past that last test. No biggie I'll teach you the ways of the force young Padawan. Framing is key when sealing the deal. She hit you with three nothing is gonna happen when you should of already framed it in your favor by telling her nothing was gonna happen and you have to be up early tommorow so you can't stay long. This is crucial framing so this kinda shit doesn't happen. Shit basically cock blocked herself which girls tend to do a lot. All you had to do if…
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:47 AM
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I got to "I bought her a couple of drinks" nigga that means you did everything wrong off rip. Never ever buy girls drinks for no reason under any circumstances!!! I'm going to read on now.
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:37 AM
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Get some go to lines for any situation. Here's some of my favorites. Hey you, do you remember me? You're umpa lumpa right? Oh no that's not you. You remind me of this girl that use to eat chalk and I started calling you umpa lumpa, I'm sorry about that. Excuse me but do you know where I can find like a healthy juice place? Hey I like your style, you're not from around here are you.
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:35 AM
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I honestly don't know anymore
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:26 AM
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Hold up yo hold up. Man there's mad books on this shit. Don't just listen to the first comment dude that guy literally told you to do almost everything wrong. Read anything by Mystery or Richard La Ruina. For daygame don't bother, but if you must you should watch YouTube videos from whoever really lol
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:26 AM
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Lol yo wtf? Nooo
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:23 AM
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Play the question game, Google pua question game. That's the short answer. It's not what you talk about that really matters though. I'll straight up ask girls if they are into what I'm into like Anime. You would be surprised what girls are into these days, you shouldn't assume they aren't interested in certain things. When trying to build report early on you shouldn't be diving into deep convo unless you are getting to know things about her and are really trying to understand her life from her p…
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:22 AM
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I don't, day game sucks lol
/r/seduction07/06/19 01:11 AM
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Cop a deck for yourself here http://kck.st/2Eap1U4 Thanks
/r/seduction06/06/19 01:35 AM
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Yo good looks my dude I really appreciate it and I sware you won't be disappointed.
/r/seduction03/06/19 09:33 PM
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No
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:25 AM
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You can do whatever but your chance of success by going full direct from the beginning is going to be very low. It's like you being able to just walk straight up to a stray cat and pet it, not very likely unless the cat is just one of those friendly ass cats for whatever reason.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:32 AM
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No, they get it from being approached by men. They really want guy's to be able to approach them and not get blown out.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:26 AM
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Also I invite the friend zone these days. I usually already have too many options to deal with as it is and I love cool girls that I truly enjoy being around and talking to. But not that I'm putting up with your bullshit because I want to eventually fuck you shit, that shits mad weak. Plus girl friends set you up with other girl friends and are excellent for social proof. Throw a BBQ and invite 5 female friends and you'll end up fucking one of them.
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:23 AM
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You did everything as wrong as possible, which I'm sure you are aware of, and you have an disadvantageous scarcity mindset, which you need to change right away. So here's my advice on getting into the abundance mind frame, talk to an abundance of women, it's really that easy. When you flirt with and talk to a bunch of women it really puts things into perspective. Honestly I meet so many girls that are legit wifey material every single day that it's really hard to be hung up over one. You are onl…
/r/seduction31/05/19 07:18 AM
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That's what I'm thinking about, go out solo and let it change you.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:53 AM
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Na bro, your just gonna feel like that for a while. It's cool tho, distract yourself by improving yourself and gaining valuable skills like you should be doing at your age.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:51 PM
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Piiiiiiiimmp!!!
/r/seduction02/03/19 10:14 PM
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No prob. Mystery is the best at mid game in my opinion and Richard La Ruina is the best at kino. Look up Richards YouTube shit and just read Mysterys books online and honestly you should level up pretty quickly.
/r/seduction02/03/19 10:12 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction02/03/19 10:08 PM
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In a place like that you need to stand out in a good way and attract women by displaying how much fun you are having. Ignore all the girls and have fun and if you wear something that makes you stand out then girls will gravitate to you. Then you make eye contact and kind of motion like you are going to dance with them. If they react with positive body language then put ur hand out and she'll grab it and then ur in there. Try not to dance for more than a couple songs and then make a move or move …
/r/seduction02/03/19 10:07 PM
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You had the girl that bought you a drink. You needed to keep her engaged and escalate kino quickly and she would of been making out with you. Opening is easy but the mid game is the challenge. Just like people have lines or they have something in mind to open a set you need to do the same thing for when you are locked in a set. My favorite plays are telling her she'll be my girlfriend for the next 20 mins, palm reading, or just making cold reads that lead the conversation. Sometimes you can even…
/r/seduction02/03/19 09:55 PM
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So figure out what it is you did wrong. What are you saying to open these sets? Try not to lurk, have fun in your own zone by any means possible in order not to be that guy just looking around for girls but isnt actually having any fun
/r/seduction21/11/18 10:14 PM
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You don't. If you don't want to dedicate time to it then you simply wont get better. It's just like everything else in the world
/r/seduction16/11/18 07:15 PM
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Show her physically. The old actions are stronger than words. Why say you like a girl when you can just makeout with her instead?
/r/seduction12/11/18 04:49 AM
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Those are just pua terms. Stacks are rountines that you can learn. When you use one routine and then another it’s called a stack. You can learn about all of that stuff in the sidebar I’m assuming. If not then check out some pua books like The Mystery Method, or The Natural by Richard La Ruina, or The Rules Of The Game and other books like that. If you google pua then you can find a bunch of forums and stuff.
/r/seduction06/11/18 08:39 AM
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It’s like it seems so simple but my brain just can’t grab it. I’ve been awake for a very long time. I’ll get it instantly tomorrow.
/r/seduction05/11/18 08:16 PM
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I’m too tired to wrap my brain around that one
/r/seduction05/11/18 08:10 PM
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If you are already happy with the level you are at then of course there’s no need to practice. This was really targeted to the guys who are having trouble getting to where they want to be. If you are where you want to be like I am then obviously we aren’t going to go out just to practice game unless it’s for some weird reason. This isn’t about being one way or another. This is about getting better quickly. If you don’t need to get better then it’s pretty irrelevant to you. I’m not suggesting eve…
/r/seduction05/11/18 08:09 PM
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That was just when I was first starting. I think the first night I went out when I was in Fresno this girl tried to go home with me and she was like a 7. I turned her down so I can keep practicing. Which was weird because I seduced her just to reject her lol she got pissed and stormed off. ZI’ve done that quite a few times. Plus I really go out of my way to avoid sleeping with too many girls. That’s not a goal of mine. I move a lot so I’m replacing girls way more often. Besides that there really…
/r/seduction05/11/18 08:03 PM
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Like 99% of people get into relationships with someone in their social circle. There’s just no way your average guy has a 33% success rate when it comes to cold approach. I’m out all the time and I have literally never seen a random guy approach a girl and leave with her. I’ve seen a million blow outs tho lol. Me and my buddies love watching guys go into sets and just to see them crash and burn. What we do is actually extremely rare but it’s so funny because T.V and movies make us all think it’s…
/r/seduction05/11/18 07:12 PM
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I was just joking about the lay count bro. I honestly don’t even sleep with that many girls because you’re right, it’s much better to just have a few girlfriends or whatever. I move a lot though so I’m constantly having to build new social circles from scratch and I prefer to do it quickly before I move again. 12 girls is just no where near enough for me personally unless I’m putting in a significant amount of time and effort into finding them and staying with them. But if you really think you a…
/r/seduction05/11/18 06:40 PM
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Very well put. I strongly suggest going for skill because although you can definitely miss out on a few lays, you will still get laid by practicing. Then when you are good enough, you can get your lay count as high as you dare to get it. But also you have to remember that game is not just about getting laid. It’s a social skill and social skills like that will help you in a lot of other areas of life. Getting laid really only helps you in one and it has the potential to not be so helpful as well…
/r/seduction05/11/18 03:37 PM
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Interesting point. Since I was already getting laid before I started practicing game I might not understand what it is that most guys are really trying to do. What is winning it? My goal was to get really good at game really fast, not to get to the point where I start scoring because I was already there. I don’t believe in marriage or monogamy so it never really ends. Plus game can be used in so many other aspects of life besides simply getting your dick wet. Either way, both SKILL GUY and LAY G…
/r/seduction05/11/18 03:26 PM
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Watch your mouth peon. You’re entitled to your opinion but you were saying how this post was stupid because you can practice game while trying to get laid which is something I already mentioned. You’re just talking out of your ass, do you even have any game or at least a solid argument to back up what you’re saying? I would love to hear the opinion of someone who does have game and disagrees with me. That way we can have an intellectual conversation about our different view points and experience…
/r/seduction05/11/18 02:56 PM
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Yeah no shit genius, I believe I already said that. Actually read the post or work on your comprehension my dude.
/r/seduction05/11/18 02:09 PM
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Lol I hear you bro.
/r/seduction05/11/18 10:53 AM
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Blow rude girls right out with a quickness unless you enjoy trying to turn the tables on them. The key is to make a valid point and be polite without allowing them to bother you at all. Call them out on there shit in the nicest way possible and then soften it up with an interesting subject change so she doesn’t even have a chance to respond. It’s usually just one girl that’s being rude and once you check her you’ll be good.
/r/seduction05/11/18 07:00 AM
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You’re to caught up on this chick. I’m not even that caught up on my ex of 9 years lol. You need more options because you shouldn’t be so worked up over some chick you haven’t spoken to for a year. Move on bro.
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:59 AM
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I wear nothing but suits now because I like how I look in them and I like how people perceive me when wearing them. Don’t depend on one thing but use what is at your disposal.
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:44 AM
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The only way a girl can see you as a friend is if you aren’t making sexual advances. Even if I have a female friend I can change that by making an advance on her. She might say oh no I just see you as a friend. I’ll be like yeah me too, but I’ve become sexually attracted to you. If you are ok with that and you still want to be friends then that’s cool but don’t expect me not to go after what I want. If you don’t think we can be friends anymore because of this then I respect that and I wish there…
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:41 AM
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No, that won’t work at all. This might sound crazy but you get a girls number the exact same way you get a guys number. No homo. Imagine you met a cool guy that you wanted to hangout with. You wouldn’t say something like you have a cool look can I get your number lol. You talk to them like a regular human and find things you have in common. Then you invite them to do something that you have a similar interest in. Now you need contact info to get in touch naturally. Yo let’s play some ball someti…
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:31 AM
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Get away from him. Don’t waste your time being around people like that. The best thing to do is just walk away. Sometimes you can’t walk away or you just don’t want to and in those times you have to be nice to him while undermining him and dlving him at the same time. That’s really cool bro but I didn’t come out tonight to grapple with a guy. What dojo do you go to, maybe I’ll check it out. Oh yeah, that’s pretty cool, anyways (turn to a girl and lock him out of the convo. He’ll start forcing hi…
/r/seduction05/11/18 05:23 AM
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He didn’t loose any respect by doing what he did. If you think what he did was degrading then ok, but I don’t think so, it was just a joke for god sake. If you want to stick to the respect thing then I guess I’m done.
/r/seduction04/11/18 11:45 AM
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Well I’m not suggesting to be a complete clown all the time, a joke for this situation was good. I use gay jokes all the time and it works great bro. Matter of fact I’m be it my best openers is basically telling them I’m gay lol. I’m not worried about respect if I’m not being disrespected. I’m gain attraction anyways, not respect. A girl can have the up most respect for you and not be attracted to you. This wasn’t a I need to gain respect moment at all.
/r/seduction04/11/18 10:59 AM
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Getting a laugh is always good first of all. You generally want to get on the same frequency in a sense. Challenging her on something like that won’t do anything for you. Like what do you stand to gain from challenging her in that way? At best you will lucky to remain neutral. Plus you want to lead the conversation away from that not go into why she keeps bringing it up. Keeping things playful and light hearted shows a lot of character and it shows that you are comfortable, confident and you tak…
/r/seduction04/11/18 09:59 AM
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Good shit bro!
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:35 AM
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What, who’s upvoting this? That’s terrible terrible terrible advice threw and threw. He did great.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:32 AM
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Invite her to do something that you are going to do regardless of if she comes or not. “Hey I’m going downtown with a couple buddies to have some drinks, you should come,” or “I’m gonna get high, eat pizza and watch standup all night, you should come chill.” Some shit like that. No formal date bull shit. Then be sure to escalate and do hot cold shit bro
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:30 AM
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You need more plays bro. Dhv stories, role play, compliance test, jokes, banter stacks, do some Jeff Ross shit, palm reading, gambles, games like the question game. These are essential things to have in any playbook and it doesn’t sound like you even have a play book. You are basically hiking the ball and winging it. It’s real tough to win a game like that.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:24 AM
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I’m always down to bounce ideas off of someone. Hit me up sometime.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:19 AM
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Groups take a lot of energy, especially solo. You have to win the friends over but there is another way to single out your target without talking to the friends. You have to force an ioi from a distance with ur target. This can be done by sticking out your tongue at her or pointing or making a facial expression or some shit that is directed at her and forces her to respond. If she gives you a smile or something positive then you can walk right up to her and say “hey how have you been” Say it lou…
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:17 AM
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Well yeah with social circle game that can work because they know you but if you pick up a random girl then you will never get that far without kino escalating. Although sometimes you can just go straight for a kiss instantly but it’s not about what might work sometimes, it’s about getting something that works the highest percentage of times tried.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:11 AM
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Smile and wink at any guys or girls you think are cute.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:08 AM
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It’s easy, kino escalate!!! The entire goal is to escalate physically until you kiss close. Then from there you get her to a full close location and then make your move. Build up a play book and then when you realize you need to score just call the plays.
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:02 AM
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You are pretty average looking bro so no worries there. How many sets have you opened because every time I read something like this the guy has rarely ever walked up and started a convo with a random girl. Life isn’t a fucking movie so if you are waiting for some scene from a romantic comedy to go down then you will be waiting a long long time. You can’t possibly not get a girl if you talk to enough of them. Your problem is most definitely volume. Learning game only makes it so you can get bette…
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:56 AM
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How old are you bro? Just curious
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:14 AM
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I never straight up tell a girl I like her and I have no problem moving past comfort zone. You just might not be aware that there are a lot better ways to show interest in a girl besides straight up verbalizing it. Verbalizing it is the easiest thing to do and it has the worst results from my personal experience. Even I really feel the need to verbalize it then I’ll at least go hot cold. “I really like you but I’m not sure we would make a good couple.” I always let the girl bring up being exclus…
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:07 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with going out solo in college bro. You are there to meet people. If you know that many people that you run into while you’re out then hit them up. Running into people that you know is even better. Strike up a convo with them and tell them your friend had to go but you wanted to have some fun and act like you don’t mind being solo because you can have a good time regardless. Tinder won’t improve your game and going out will. I’m not saying you should go out every night, you…
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:00 AM
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Expect 5% conversion for day game. Open 100 girls and 20 of them will agree to go on a date if you do it right. Half of them will actually go and half of them will end up sleeping with you if you do it all right.
/r/seduction03/11/18 12:30 PM
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Well asking girls to dance at a club is a big no no. You ask girls to dance in middle school. You don’t ask you just kind of move in slowly and see how they react.
/r/seduction03/11/18 12:26 PM
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Never tell a girl you like her ever again. Tell your girlfriend how much you like her after she’s your girlfriend. There’s never a reason to say something like that when you can simply show it instead. You are in what I call the danger zone now. If you want to get out then you need to show her that you have other options by getting more girls. Right now you have zero leverage. It’s no different then sales. She knows you are extremely interested and now she can do whatever she wants including wai…
/r/seduction03/11/18 12:23 PM
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Yeah, go out solo bro. I started by going out solo and I still go out solo all the time. If you aren’t any good then you can expect bad results but the point is to improve by doing it and the outcome is pretty irrelevant. No one starts off good. Open sets and analyze where you went wrong, then do research on how to fix your sticking points. Consistency is what’s it’s really all about. If you go out one time then it’s like going to the gym one time. Don’t expect to see any real results in one nig…
/r/seduction03/11/18 12:15 PM
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On to the next one.
/r/seduction03/11/18 07:04 AM
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It sounds like you only hit her up to fuck. That’s not feelings bro lol. Being on her period is not a valid reason why you guys can’t hangout. You are only caught up in a lack of options or some shit like that.
/r/seduction03/11/18 07:03 AM
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Puas are really the only guys getting random girls numbers for the most part. That’s why almost everyone is in a relationship with someone that is in their social circle. Next time just give them your number. There’s really no reason why you have to wait on them at all. A girl can walk up to me and sit on my lap or make out with me and I’ll be cool with it even if I don’t find her attractive and she taste like cigarettes lol. You gotta go for what you want no matter what. That goes for guys and …
/r/seduction03/11/18 07:00 AM
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It’s easy, use disqualification. “Hey let’s go back to my place and smoke a joint, don’t worry I’m not going to try to sleep with you or anything” Oh but you bet your ass that you will be fucking anyways. I use that shit all the time. Seriously just trust me on this, it works like a fucking charm. Sometimes I accidentally laugh out loud when she says sure let’s go lol
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:50 AM
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I look really young too. Started wearing nothing but suits and similar attire. People call me sir now and get little resistance from ladies of all ages. Especially older girls
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:45 AM
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Interview mode is hard to get out of sometimes but you just need more material. When I catch myself in interview mode I just use a stack. I’ll read her palm and make up some funny shit. I’ll tell a relevant dhv story. I’ll initiate some boyfriend girlfriend role play. I’ll play a game, tell a good joke, show her a handshake. I have a list of go to plays that I can just whip out and get out of interview mode and you just need to make a play book of your own.
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:28 AM
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You already fucked up by going on a date my dude lol good luck tho
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:23 AM
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I don’t have a bed either lmao. I always go to their place tho.
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:22 AM
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It’s normal but you have to realize that the skills you acquire to become a good pua translates into so much more. You are essentially training yourself to be able to get along well with people. You are gaining social skills which is probably the most important and most impactful singular skill that you can learn. I was able to sleep with plenty of girls before I started practicing this stuff so getting girls was never really the main appeal of becoming a pua. We are social creatures and our wel…
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:20 AM
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I mean dating sites are just so lame in comparison to going out and opening sets in person. There is nothing fun about using a dating app. It definitely won’t improve your game. Not sure about making it worst though
/r/seduction03/11/18 06:04 AM
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Right it on a piece of paper and tape it to your back. I’m serious
/r/seduction02/11/18 09:11 AM
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The master key system by Charles F Hannnel The four agreements Don Miguel Ruiz The science of mind Rich dad poor dad The life you were born to live Dan Millman
/r/seduction02/11/18 09:08 AM
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Because everyone should workout. That’s like someone telling you to brush your teeth. No one is better off not brushing their teeth lol. Who cares if you like to brush your teeth, that’s so irrelevant. Your health is extremely important and working out is extremely important to your health. Working out is probably the easiest way to improve yourself with the least effort in the shortest amount of time. If you won’t do that then there’s very little chance that you will do anything else that will …
/r/seduction02/11/18 09:02 AM
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You just extend the night by suggesting you guys do something else. Getting some food is the classic one. Smoking some pot works great. Having an after party is cool. Offering a ride works. Having a reason is the best.
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:37 AM
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You create a reason to talk to her. There was hot new girl back in the day and I just said hey you’re new right. Talked and then told her to hangout with me at lunch and I’ll just introduce you to some people and show you around. It’s hard for me to give advice to people outside of the US about stuff like this because I don’t understand what society is really like in other places. I don’t know what going to high school is like in other places. I imagine finding an actual reason to talk to her an…
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:29 AM
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Increase the amount of girls you approach obviously. If you talked to 5 girls and hung out with one then you can probably talk to 50 girls and hangout with 10.
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:23 AM
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Probably a bad idea. I love party girls and my relationships with them are great but I like to party. I can’t imagine being with a girl like that if I didn’t love to party. I’d probably always be trying to get her to stay in with and that would make her want to go out more. Then I’d be worried about her cheating on me and that will make her want to cheat more. That’s like a mouse dating a cat, the cat will probably tear you to shreds accidentally.
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:20 AM
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The fuck?
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:09 AM
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That’s like saying I can’t wait till I’m homeless so I don’t have to to worry about cleaning. You will have a whole other list of homeless problems and you will be wishing you just took the time to clean the house you had. This stuff doesn’t become irrelevant at a certain age. Learn to enjoy the process of learning it. You need to change your perception. The fact that girls is one of your main concerns is proof that you have it pretty dam good in this life. You can go out whenever you want and m…
/r/seduction02/11/18 08:09 AM
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I spend a typical day trying to avoid having a typical life.
/r/seduction02/11/18 07:36 AM
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If one of your goals in life is to enjoy it, then the things you listed are definitely not a waste of time as long as you actually enjoy doing them. Making a list of priorities and then allocating time to those things will help us avoid neglecting things that are very important to us. No time enjoyed is time wasted.
/r/seduction02/11/18 07:24 AM
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I try to only invite girls to thing that I’m going to do regardless “I’m going to do and so this weekend with some friends, you should come”. I’m not asking her and I’m not planning anything around her. First of all it’s rejection proof. If she says she can’t or doesn’t respond then she is rejecting the invite to do something and not rejecting me. That allows me to ask her again and again no matter how many times she says no without seeming needy or anything like that. It also reduces the pressu…
/r/seduction02/11/18 07:18 AM
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I have kind of a lot to say to you bro so bare with me. Being an introvert has nothing to do with being good at socializing or being out going. It only means you spend energy by being around a lot of people as appose to gaining energy. So just go ahead and stop using introversion as a crutch. When you get tired, rest. Your problem is you, not your “situation”. There’s nothing stopping you from going out, solo if you have to, and opening sets. If you don’t have any time then it’s not important en…
/r/seduction02/11/18 06:58 AM
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Talk to everyone everywhere. Find people with common interest and hangout with them. Build up a social circle. Try not to get a girlfriend and a chick will show up that you really want to date. It’s weird like that.
/r/seduction02/11/18 05:42 AM
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Women are looking for a guy that will make her night entertaining. If she is having fun and it’s because of you then she won’t want it to stop. Your job is to just extend the fun until the last thing to do is have sex. Getting some food and smoking a joint sounds like fun. Going back to my place with a bunch of friends to keep drinking sounds fun. Sometimes just going back to have sex sounds fun but if she’s down for that then she’s usually down for whatever anyways so might as well not lead wit…
/r/seduction02/11/18 05:37 AM
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I love parties!! First of all dress up really nice. This may sound stupid and a bit try hard but that’s because our biology wants us to fit in for protection. Don’t fit in, stand out in a good way. I always over dress and it just works bro, trust me. You will definitely have people comment and or ask about why you are so dressed up but just role with it. Say it feels good to look good. Don’t drink too much. Don’t ask anyone if they want to dance. If you find the opportunity to dance while no one…
/r/seduction02/11/18 05:27 AM
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It’s actually not you bro, it’s that fact that you are going on dates that is the real problem here. Think about it, when you go on a date then the focus is primarily on two people becoming romantically involved. It’s a very unnatural situation that is going to frame you as the one trying to chase the girl and is going to put a lot of pressure on you to “woo” the girl. This is making you act in a way that was not the way you were acting when they became initially attracted to you. Think about it…
/r/seduction02/11/18 04:55 AM
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Well I use a lot of MM stuff and it definitely works really well for me but I’m starting to think that it doesn’t do well outside of America because I only hear about people outside of the US having a hard time with it for the most part. I’ve never had someone say something like sorry we are having a conversation or anything like that. If you are actually delivering the material right then maybe check your body language, tone of voice and how you dress. I only wear suits and I give off disintere…
/r/seduction25/10/18 06:31 PM
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Well you have techniques like negging, false time constraints and kino and then you have principles like letting her chase you, framing and conversational skills. When I’m talking about material that you use in field I’m usually talking about routines and routine stacks like best friends test or palm reading. I use the best friends test, palm reading, the quest game, stacks designed for bouncing to get food, stacks made to kiss close, stacks to go back to my place and a whole bunch of other mate…
/r/seduction25/10/18 07:36 AM
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Yeah I can’t really speak for what it’s like in Australia. One of the things I notice when people aren’t having success with the mystery method is that they aren’t doing it right. I’m not saying that’s the case with you but if you for some reason forget to do a FTC or something crucial then you can blow yourself out a lot. The routine I use is tailored for a wing man and it’s a lot of MM type stuff for the most part. When I’m solo I don’t use any routines and I do a lot of dance floor game and s…
/r/seduction25/10/18 12:14 AM
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I can't say anything for sure but you typically want to kiss her as soon as possible. I don't ask girls out on formal dates at all though.
/r/seduction22/10/18 11:41 PM
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I just say " Hey you're going to be my girlfriend for the next 20 minutes" she has to be aware of whats going on.
/r/seduction22/10/18 11:39 PM
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Yeah bro go for it!! I meant that you don't want things to naturally group up into guys and girls. It's kind of hard to explain but think of it terms of little kids for a sec. You notice how little kids quickly separate by gender? Well the same thing still happens naturally as adults. Try to disrupt that as much as possible so you are viewed as being on the same team so to speak. Actually Im explaining it pretty poorly, Im wat too baked for this lol
/r/seduction22/10/18 11:38 PM
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You shouldn't be talking about stuff where she could respond in one word. How's your day? Good. Tell me what you remember about your first day of highschool. Besides that, if she just doesn't like to talk then you talk most of the time and just make sure you do a lot of Kino.
/r/seduction19/10/18 08:33 AM
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Nope, shit test are just a natural constant thing that you have to deal with forever. The more options the girls has the more she will feel the need to constantly test you. It's not really a reflection of the quality if her character it's just a natural thing that women do.
/r/seduction19/10/18 07:30 AM
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Boyfriend girlfriend role play. You're going to be my girlfriend for the next 20 minutes. Then treat her like your girl and breakup with her in 20 min
/r/seduction19/10/18 07:26 AM
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The only danger of just having fun like everyone is suggesting is that the trip will go by and you won't get any lol. That's fine and all and Im sure you'll have fun but I think we both agree that it's not preferable. Aim high, really really high. I'd only be shooting for a threesome or foursome if you have it in you. If you fail then you'll just get a regular twosome lol. You want to create a feeling of a once in a lifetime opportunity for the girls. You want to do things that don't really happ…
/r/seduction19/10/18 07:23 AM
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Get attached. Don't try to not get too attached. Instead try to get too attached to a bunch of women. This is something that a lot of guys get wrong. They try to not like girls in order to protect their feelings like little bitches. I like almost all the girls I sleep with and would be in a ltr with just about any one of them. The difference is that I never stop getting more girls. I've never been in a monogamous relationship and would never be in one. When I really really like a girl and she re…
/r/seduction19/10/18 06:47 AM
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Next time a girl comes to your place, assume she only came over to have sex. Imagine how shitty it would feel if a girl tells you to come over her place after you both show obvious interest. Then you think you are for sure getting laid but you just end up sleeping on the floor instead of your own bed. That shit sucks. Try to remember that girls want to fuck too. They think they have to let you be the one to make all the moves and you failed at making a move. She did her part and you failed to ev…
/r/seduction19/10/18 06:38 AM
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If loneliness is your problem then you need to make an effort to build relationships with not just girls but guys as well. I'd say it's way more important to have close guy friends before you even start dating girls because that girl will quickly become your everything. The fact that you felt like killing yourself after a rejection is proof of that. Rejection always stings but one person should never have that much power over your emotions like that. Girls are feeling this pressure that you are …
/r/seduction19/10/18 06:29 AM
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Everything was pretty solid from what I can tell. If I'm going to get nit picky then I'd say you should of went for the kiss. I say that because your chances get really slim if you don't kiss a girl the first night you meet in that kind of environment and way slimmer the longer you go with out a kiss close. You still seem like you have a good chance which is all the more reason you should of kissed her. A simple do you want to kiss me, or Im trying really hard not to kiss you, would have probabl…
/r/seduction19/10/18 06:17 AM
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You are probably worried about what to say next. I use something scripted for the first 5 mins of the interaction. I'm comfortable as fuck walking up to any girl because I pretty much know exactly what's going to happen during the first five minutes. Since it seems like you're in highschool or something then you have to realize game is completely different in highschool. It's not cold approaching, it's all social game. With that said you should try it out anyways. Start with I can only stay for …
/r/seduction19/10/18 05:59 AM
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The thing is that you can't be afraid to care. You should care a lot about girls you meet and care very little about the pain of rejection. This isn't about shutting off your feelings so you can fuck girls. I care about all the girls I sleep with and I genuinely want to be close to most of them and it stings everytime they don't want to be close with me for whatever reason. But who really gives a shit? I can deal with a little sting. The pain of feeling when you are trying not to feel and then b…
/r/seduction19/10/18 05:40 AM
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Yeah it's not the girls or monogamy because I've never been in a monogamous relationship ever and it doesn't make me feel lonely. It's about how close you are to the people that are in your life. Sometimes when you are going hard on picking up girls you start spending a majority of your time with people that you aren't close to and that's why it starts to feel lonely. But when I would go out a lot with a wing that I'm really close to I never felt better and we got even closer as friends.
/r/seduction19/10/18 05:13 AM
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You can't find more time, you can only dedicate time that already exist. Right now all of your time is accounted for so something has to give obviously. Change your lifestyle to allow yourself more time or deal with the fact that you are choosing to spend the time you have doing whatever it is you're doing with it.
/r/seduction19/10/18 05:07 AM
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You should really try to make night game your thing. Not to say you can't only do day game but it's like playing basketball and saying offense isn't really my thing. Start by reading a couple books and then just jump into the deep end, that's what I did. I didn't want to take forever to get really good so I just went out in a new city by myself and started opening sets. I've been addicted to the rush of picking up girls ever since. Pickup is mostly just reading stuff and then going out and tryin…
/r/seduction19/10/18 04:57 AM
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When all else fails you can still get your lifestyle game on fleek. Create a life around you that girls flock to if you can't figure out game. If you live a boring life then just go be a Mormon and you'll get a girl or two no problem. Plus the religion really isn't that bad in general.
/r/seduction12/10/18 07:17 AM
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Just because I want to sleep with women doesn't mean I don't like having girlfriends. The only different aims we actually have is that I like to have multiple girlfriends that I have long lasting deep bonds with and you might only want one. That's totally fine tho bro. Regardless of what every individual wants, when it comes to women we both have the exact same goal which is to attract them. Seduction is seduction my dude. What you do after the fact is up to you. The funny part is that I found s…
/r/seduction12/10/18 07:11 AM
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If you just want to get laid then I'll tell you how. Dress up really dope. Think overdressed. Go to parties clubs bars and get togethers. Then dance in your own zone without worrying about anything. Then look up and catch whatever girl is looking at you. Walk up and hold strong eye contact and just pull her in to start dancing with you. Then makeout with her. Dance one song and tell her to come chill and talk somewhere. Play the question game. Then bounce her to go get some food. Then tell her t…
/r/seduction12/10/18 06:04 AM
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Wait what??? Same day lays in day game are pretty tuff but in night game that's all I do. But that's not really the point. Even if I'm doing day game I'm starting by pulling an instant date and I'm still going for the same day lay. I might end up with a number or a "date" later but sex is going to be pretty much implied. There's actually a really big difference between trying to get dates and trying to get laid. I actually don't even go on dates anymore so why would I try to go on them? Somethin…
/r/seduction12/10/18 05:48 AM
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Say no, we're just fucking and then laugh.
/r/seduction05/10/18 08:12 PM
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You actually don't want to smile at girls off of eye contact. I'll only smile at a girl if I'm already smiling before we meet eyes. You should take a more active approach and focus on just approaching the girls you want.
/r/seduction05/10/18 08:10 PM
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It works in the sense that you have a better chance at getting lucky if your game is so trash the you would essentially be getting lucky anyways. But what you really want to do is have fun gaming. I always have a much better time gaming then just having fun with friends. A part of your game should be actually having fun anyways. If you can't actually have fun and actively pick up girls then there is a problem with the fundamentals of your game, most likely.
/r/seduction05/10/18 08:08 PM
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I think wearing a suit can add 1 point to anyone. I'm really a 7 straight up. I think most guys can get to a 7 if they workout and have good grooming and hygiene. Just like most girls can get to a 7. Thats why 7 is the average. Sure there are hopelessly ugly guys and people with disabilities and shit but game is game. I'm not judging rather this guys game is lacking because of how attractive he is, I'm judging it based on the information he displayed. Nothing about what he wrote seems like he ha…
/r/seduction05/10/18 01:12 PM
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Lmao that's fucking hilarious bro. I only did that shit when the girl would give me very strong ioi's from a distance. Thats the only reason it's always worked. But now I'm going to go out tonight and try it just for fun. I kinda want to keep my 100% stat tho lol. ​ As for my looks, I don't get any matches ever lmao. I thought my pics were pretty decent but maybe they weren't good enough. it could be a bunch of things. i don't really mess with apps anyways, don't find it fun. But I'm an alright …
/r/seduction05/10/18 12:57 PM
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Well one of my friends is a ten and I wouldn't bet on him if he was competing against a 60 year old bum with no teeth lol. I think it's likely you don't realize how much game your friend has. Most handsome guys develop alot of natural game really quickly because of how many interactions they inevitably have with women. My friends a fucking anomaly. If I didn't literally open the girls , turn them on and then physically hand them over to him he would only be getting laid from social game situatio…
/r/seduction05/10/18 12:30 PM
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lol Yo fuck Tyler Beeee. lol Honestly a lot of the indirect opener stuff doesn't really work that well outside of America. I don't know where you guys live but that might be a factor. I still stand by the fact that "hey how's your night going?" is a terrible opener in general. The real question is how important the opener really is. Before I really even started practicing game i was a natural at opening girls and I could say I love pickle juice and it would work. It was usually my energy, tone o…
/r/seduction05/10/18 12:17 PM
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Well if your trying to get dates then you are on the wrong path my friend
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:44 AM
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Well you can definitely come to the conclusion that your game needs some serious work if your percentages are less then 1%. 1 out of 500 is really bad for someone who doesn't even have any game. You must have more then a few major flaws in your game. I don't know what they are but if you are still using "Hey, how's your night going" then you can expect to get blown out almost every time just off of the opener alone. ​ If you are getting auto rejected even when you go indirect then it's most like…
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:41 AM
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Yes, it's foolish. Good luck getting to know someone on that deep of a level without fucking and or dating them.
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:18 AM
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You nailed it
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:16 AM
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I don't want to be that guy who hits on girls at the gym. Nobody likes that guy
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:15 AM
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It's true that dating has shifted in the girls favor these days. With that being said, girls are also super easy to pick up these days. How many times have you gone out solo looking fly and opened sets of girls? My guess is never. You aren't taking any shots and wondering why you arn't scoring. You don't even sound like someone I would want to hangout with so I can imagine getting girls to want to be around you is a difficult task. You need to change yourself. Get into good shape, live a more ex…
/r/seduction05/10/18 10:10 AM
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You are already working form behind by going on a date in the first place. A date usually automatically frames you as the one chasing. It also frames you as the provider type as well as another regular guy. Now there are ways to get around this of course but why do all of that work? If your goal is to get laid then go to clubs and bars and just pull girls the same night you meet them. Then go on a date AFTER you sleep with them and you get to know them, that way you aren't wasting your precious …
/r/seduction05/10/18 09:57 AM
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Don't be the woe is me Ive tried everything guy. It's a game that you can beat, figure it out and beat it.
/r/seduction04/10/18 10:58 AM
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Depends on your game. I'll go on an insta date like 1 out of 10. I see about 1 out of 10 of the girls I instadate again. I don't do daygame anymore because it's a lot of work and not very fun for me personally
/r/seduction04/10/18 10:52 AM
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Are you really that dense? You keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. It's not that girls aren't into you, you just keep fucking it up by asking them out like a schmuck. As soon as she catches you chasing you loose. Next time instead of asking her out, invite her to do something you are going to regardless of if she comes or not. " Hey I'm going to so and so this weekend, you should come along. Maybe you can help me pick up girls or something" This is an example of how I woul…
/r/seduction04/10/18 10:50 AM
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Iv'e been only going to the girls place or fucking in my car and I actually have a place to bring girls back to. I usually just ask them if they have any weed at their place or I'll just straight up ask if we can go back to her place and have a couple drinks, then I say "don't worry, I'm not going to try to sleep with you". But I always end up sleeping with them. Oh yeah and fuck what your parents think, let them tease you and go ahead and crack back and talk about how your mom is the only girl …
/r/seduction04/10/18 10:39 AM
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Bra, noone cares. Ask her to the party and fuck off man lol
/r/seduction03/10/18 02:50 PM
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Bra
/r/seduction03/10/18 02:46 PM
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Nope, on to the next one
/r/seduction03/10/18 02:01 PM
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Fair warning, the longer you write her the lower your chances get bro. Invite her to do something she thinks you are going to do regardless of if she comes or not and ask her as soon as possible. Text as little as possible is a pretty well known rule that I go by
/r/seduction03/10/18 01:53 PM
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First of all you need to always assume the threesome is a very attainable possibility. I always egg them on to be sexual with each other first and let them do all the work of turning each other on. Its really fucking easy actually. Saying stuff like whos the better kisser or playing games like the question game can really set the right tone. Or sometimes i'll just escalate kino at the same rate with both of them and then just take turns making out with them. ​ The hard part is when one of the gi…
/r/seduction02/10/18 11:52 AM
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Well your first problem is you are going on dates. Dates are basically for schmucks that are looking for relationships. Girls dont go on a date for a one night stand because the point of a one night stand is to fuck someone without getting to really know them and the point of a date is to figure out if you want to be in a relationship with this person. ​ Save dates for girls you are already sleeping with and you shouldnt have this problem. Go out and cold open sets at a bar or lounge if you want…
/r/seduction02/10/18 11:33 AM
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Don't worry about it bro. The fact that you didn't approach means you definitely didn't have enough game to pull them anyways.
/r/seduction02/10/18 11:22 AM
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Going on a first date lowers your chances of getting laid.
/r/seduction02/10/18 11:18 AM
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You aren't afraid enough. You should be terrified that you are wasting precious years that you can never go back to, being a schmuck. What you do now will follow you around the rest of your life. You will never be able to replace these memories or get any of this time back. Never!! You can live to be 1,000 years old and you'll still be thinking what the fuck was I doing?! ​ I'm almost 30 now and I still randomly scream out loud when I think about a single moment from way back in highschool when …
/r/seduction02/10/18 11:17 AM
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If you want to have sex with her then you have to make a move. How about a good sports analogy. If you are wide open on a fast break then take the fucking layup. Drill it into your head that not taking the shot is not an option. What do you mean you suppose you fucked up? You fucked up for sure!! You held the ball and waited for a shot clock violation when you had a wide open fast break. You should be benched. If you are ever in a spot where you just don't know how to make the move then just sta…
/r/seduction02/10/18 10:45 AM
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Do or do not, there is no try - Yoda ​ Be a man and do what you want. Do you think I want to drive 45 minutes to go out by myself in a city that I just moved to where I don't know anyone, just to cold open random women at a random bar while remaining sober enough to drive? The answer is yes, so that's exactly what I do. Don't allow your emotions dictate what you should do. Make a decision and then stick to it regardless of that little nervous feeling we all get. If you let that little nervous fe…
/r/seduction02/10/18 10:28 AM
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you need a change of perspective
/r/seduction02/10/18 10:07 AM
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How old are you bro? talk to her alone and just stare into her eyes. then say " Do you want kiss me?" if she says no then just say I didnt say you could you just had that look in your eyes. if she says anything else then kiss her. It's really that simple. She likes you and even if she doesnt like you, you are obligated to make a move because you like her. Theres nothing to be confused about and nothing to worry about. Just stop thinking and take action. Just figure out how to get her alone. Dont…
/r/seduction02/10/18 10:06 AM
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What you need is an experience that will change your perspective. That will be a short term fix while you slowly work those deep rooted problems out. Try starring at girls in their eyes and asking them if they want to kiss you. Just do this with every single girl you find attractive. If they say no just say "I didnt say you could, you just had that look in your eyes". If she says maybe or i dont know then say lets find out and go in for the kiss. You might not think this will work but it really …
/r/seduction02/10/18 09:59 AM
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Good points. You really want to show interest physically and not verbally. Even if I do up showing interest verbally I always follow it up by showing some sort of disinterest. Like "I find you very attractive but I'm not sure if we would get along." I used something like that the other night because I couldn't isolate the girl in order to properly kino escalate into a kiss close so I had to show interest verbally. I definitely ended up going back to her place without having to kiss close first. …
/r/seduction02/10/18 09:44 AM
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There's absolutely nothing to worry about. First I would try to sleep with three of them at the same time. Then 2 and if that failed I would just sleep with who ever is the most down.
/r/seduction02/10/18 09:33 AM
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Think of it like being in a dog fight with jets. Your wing can have dibs on whatever target he has dibs on but once his target gets on your six then that's his fuck up and your wing is suppose to switch to having your back at that point.
/r/seduction02/10/18 09:28 AM
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Nice bro. Next time try to do any kino you can possibly do and maybe set up a specific date before you get her number so there's a good reason to ask for the number. Like I'm doing so and so on so and so day, you should come hang if you're cool. Also try adding her on snap chat or instagram instead of getting a number. Enjoy the high
/r/seduction02/10/18 09:21 AM
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I'm usually about 95% authentic. I might ask her an opinion about something that i don't really care about. Or I might tell a story that kinda plays like a joke that a standup comedian might tell and isn't really based in reality. Or I might read her palm and just make shit up or something but that stuff is usually done in a really light hearted way to where I would have no problem just saying "I'm just joking" or that I made it up. I think you should be as authentic as possible, especially if y…
/r/seduction02/10/18 08:12 AM
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rose gold is a cocktail bar right next door to Cle. they have great drinks and no cover. I usually start there to warm up and bounce a couple sets next door to Cle. Cle is a tough gaming arena for newbies but if you have skill then you can pull a ton of really hot girls there that are from all over the place. I only go to Cle with a wingman tho.
/r/seduction02/10/18 07:37 AM
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What!? Houston has excellent night life. Rose gold and Cle on Thursday and midtown on the weekend. There's more bars and girls then you could possibly get around to in one spot. I just went out sarging solo last night and I got laid from the second set I opened. It's one of the best night game spots I've ever been to.
/r/seduction01/10/18 03:36 AM
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Daygaming in Houston is a huge waste of time. It's like trying to jet ski in the dessert. Houston has such a great nightlife that you should really focus your efforts on nightgame.
/r/seduction28/09/18 04:24 AM
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Stop verbally renforcing things you want to change about yourself. It sounds gay but just about everything you do is out of habit. So if you keep saying you are shy then that's exactly what you will be. If you want to be confident and outgoing then tell yourself that you are confident and out going until it becomes a habit in your subconscious and you slowly become confident and out going. Your only real job is to consciously feed your subconscious what you want it to act on. As for technically …
/r/seduction28/09/18 04:18 AM
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A babyface isn't necessarily a bad thing. I also look really young and it doesn't affect my game at all. It's more about how you present yourself. For instance if you wear suits noone would say you look 16 because 16 year olds don't dress like that. Working out is always a good idea no matter what. A beard isn't better by any means. Clean shaven is actually statistically more appealing. Guys think beards look cool but everytime my friends shave their beards they end up getting a lot more girls. …
/r/seduction28/09/18 12:35 AM
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The Mystery Method and the Natural are my favorite outter game books for sure. I'm not sure how well flash cards will work because I've never tried something like that so I just don't know. I have a ton of personal notes but they aren't organized for anyone to really be able to make good use of them. I wrote a few post on here that you can read on my profile. Just remember not to get stuck relying on scripts 100%. 20% of my interaction is scripted and it's usually just at the beginning. When I r…
/r/seduction28/09/18 12:11 AM
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So what do you want bro? Msg me if u want and I'll tell exactly what I do every step of the way if you want. Then you can figure out your own style from there
/r/seduction27/09/18 12:36 AM
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My B. I thought it was solid advice.
/r/seduction26/09/18 04:47 PM
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I'm in space 7 days a week, how do I pick up girls? Nigga come back to earth. If you don't have time you don't have time.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:37 PM
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I only study technique. All that inner game shit is better learned by reading books that have nothing to do with pickup
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:33 PM
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Because most of them just really aren't that good
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:32 PM
1

You're 18 bro chill out. Walk up and try to kiss a girl. Then you'll see how easy it really is. You aren't taking any shots and ur wondering why you aren't scoring any baskets.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:31 PM
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Walk up and try to kiss a girl. Go in slow. You'll realize how stupid the have been all this time.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:30 PM
1

Open with a line. Hook with a line. Then play the question game. That's really all you need. Make sure you kino escalate as much as possible and always try to kiss close.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:28 PM
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I honestly think night game is way way better bro. I don't even do day game anymore. Hit up some bars and lounges and go in
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:26 PM
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I'd love to wing for u bro. Holler at ur boy
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:22 PM
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Be honest and say yes. You have nothing to hide. A girl once said "do you say that to all the girls" I said of course I do. Then we made out.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:15 PM
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Fuck the shit out of her
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:12 PM
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First of all do night game. Don't show intent verbally but show it non verbally. You have to work in kino somehow. Go for insta dates or the numbers are useless. Add her on social media instead of getting a number. Use push pull not pull pull. Don't say anything boring or typical of someone that is trying to talk to a girl.
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:10 PM
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The mystery method and the natural
/r/seduction25/09/18 11:02 PM
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Don't show interest verbally at all. Show interest physically. Don't tell a girl you like her, she will know when you escalate kino and go for the kiss close.
/r/seduction19/09/18 08:43 AM
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Go out and pull girls for real
/r/seduction19/09/18 08:42 AM
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Numbers don't count for shit bro. We assume a number is meaningless unless we insta date and or kiss close. In fact social is better anyways but still kind of whatever
/r/seduction19/09/18 08:39 AM
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You did everything perfectly wrong except the fact that you had the balls to go up and talk to her. I'll just tell you what I might have said to start the convo. Hey oh my god are you who I think you are. Did we hook up at summer camp about 6 years ago? No? Then where do I know you from? If she said maybe instagram I would say no I doubt it, I don't really go on instagram that much so I really doubt I would recognize some random girl from it. Maybe I tried to hit on you at a party and blew mysel…
/r/seduction19/09/18 08:33 AM
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Dancing by yourself for one song is good but you have to dance in a way that makes you stand out and looks like you are actually having fun. Then just try to dance with a girl that is looking at u. It kinda depends on the environment. Indirect is good. Always be in a set or approaching a set unless u are dancing. Peacocking helps a lot. Always be having fun
/r/seduction16/09/18 11:30 PM
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You are doing something wrong on the approach. What are you saying, whats ur body language like? Just because they look at you doesn't mean you can approach with weak game and pick her up. This is a problem a lot of handsome guys run into. They think they can just go up and ask a girl to dance or introduce themselves and that's gonna workout just fine but it won't.
/r/seduction16/09/18 11:19 PM
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The mystery method and the natural
/r/seduction04/09/18 11:04 PM
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lmao that is hilarious
/r/seduction02/09/18 11:14 PM
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If Im going to be completely honest I kinda wanted to get laid that night and I did not get laid. With that being said, I was most concerned about just having a good time. I didn't even notice what I was doing with the balloons until the next day. I was high as fuck and I drank a lot of beer. I don't usually do either of those when I go out sarging or whatever It was fun though, I got 2 girls numbers. One of which took a piss right in front of me and gave me a ride home after we smoked some weed…
/r/seduction02/09/18 10:26 PM
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First of all, na yo. So many girls like to think they are beyond being gamed by pua tactics but you really aren't. It's just like I like to think Im beyond really hot girls with no personality but as soon as one sticks her tounge down my throat all of that shit goes out the window. Second of all, dates are for schmucks or online dating. Third of all, negs are for bitches that are acting like bitches. You try me, I try you to show you that I don't take any shit. You don't just neg a girl for no r…
/r/seduction30/08/18 07:30 AM
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Easy, you ask her opinion on something. Hey does this shirt make me look gay? Do you think it's cheating if ur girlfriend kisses another girl? Do you like it when a guy eats your asshole out? The opinion opener works great for initiating convos
/r/seduction30/08/18 07:00 AM
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Let that be the last date you ever go on. Dated are for girls that you are already. I honestly dont know when this whole dating concept got confused but I blame Hollywood
/r/seduction24/08/18 02:05 PM
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Did you like read any of the side bar stuff? What you are doing is baisically the exact opposite of what you should be doing. Dude do some research sheeesh
/r/seduction24/08/18 02:01 PM
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Nope, I dont like drama at all. I really live a drama free life. I dont believe in monogamy and that pretty much cuts out all the bullshit in my relationships. I think the girls that are looking for that American dream ideal family shit are really the ones with the most drama here. They have all these preconcieved ideas and plans and agendas. They want shit to go how they imagine it should go and drama gets stirred up whenever things arnt going perfectly according to plan. A family is kind of co…
/r/seduction12/08/18 05:59 AM
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Thats just an excuse and you are making up shit to justify being like that. You are showing all the signs of simple pain avoiding psycological denial. Its such a cop out to say shit like "Im just this way and theres nothing I can do, you wouldnt understand" I do understand. I know that you cant change unless you first believe you can change. The day you truly believe you can change and you stop making excuses for yourself and stop playing the victim, is the day you begin to overcome all the bull…
/r/seduction12/08/18 05:41 AM
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Its just a rule that I like to use so that Im reminded to constantly be moving forward until I kiss close. If I dont do it in time nothing happens. I just get more aggressive with my advances and if she isnt responding then I move on to another target unless theres a good reason for me not to.
/r/seduction12/08/18 05:29 AM
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Im not debating with u dude
/r/seduction12/08/18 05:23 AM
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American girls are just difficult amd that sucks for a lot of guys. But to me thats what makes them fun and interesting. I dont like anything to be the least bit boring. I cant work regular jobs or go to regular college or date regular girls and have regular relationship while starting a regular family and live out a regular life. American girls are unpredictable and interesting. They are a challenge and they tend to be very unique individuals. When I find a really cool American girl she is just…
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:38 AM
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20 minutes to makeout is my rule.
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:28 AM
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Theres billions of girls in the world. There is no one girl that got away. The more women you meet and get to know, the more girls you will meet that you think are the one. You need to rip that bandaid off now while your young. Thinking like that could ruin your life.
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:26 AM
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No body gives a fuck dude. People die everyday and have real problems and ur bitching about how much of a piece of shit u are and how you cant get any girls. Ur only 17, shut up with all that shit and work on urself. Ur just doing everything wrong. Read some pua books and figure that shit out. The game isnt cheating you, you just suck. What are you going to bitch at your ps4 or are you going to figure out how to beat whatever game ur playing. Yes yoi suck, ur a low level piece of shit garbage pl…
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:21 AM
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What do you whip your dick out a girls just hop on it lol.
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:08 AM
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Nothing ventured nothing gained. I didnt say whip your dick and jump on her. No chick would ever go threw that trouble unless you really did something crazy. You arnt a celebrity
/r/seduction11/08/18 01:04 AM
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Do both but cold approach makes it so you dont have to rely on anything. You cant go to a meet up or event whenever you want and youre options are still pretty limited
/r/seduction10/08/18 07:20 PM
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Go as early as possible. Make sure you buy some thing to snack on during the movie so you arent just sitting there watchinh the movies with no reason to interact. Go to the movie a little early so you can talk a little before the movie starts. You should get something quick to eat after the movie. If shes not really hungry then something sweet is good. You need a reason to tell her to come back to your place. I use smoking weed, playing video games, drinking something really good, watching somet…
/r/seduction10/08/18 07:15 PM
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I actually wouldnt go somewhere before. Thid isnt a first date so you want to save as much time after the movie as possible.
/r/seduction10/08/18 06:59 PM
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Yeah Im pretty dope lol
/r/seduction10/08/18 06:48 PM
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I highly doubt anyone is approaching that many girls and getting rejected by all of them. If they are then they are doing something terribly wrong or they are deformed or super obese or something. You should be at your highest level of emberrasment and regret right now because you arent even trying. Even if you get rejected by 1000 girls, thats better then not trying and disqualifying yourself from every girl on the planet. Your logic is ridiculous. You want to automatically fail because your af…
/r/seduction10/08/18 06:46 PM
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Dont do it man. Your only option is really really long game with slim chance of success. Its just not worth it. Instead you might be able to get closer to her and invite her to a pool party or bbq or something to get even closer. Then use her as a pawn to get a different girl lol
/r/seduction10/08/18 02:38 AM
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No you did that by not escalating with any of the girls or demanding attention with your presence. You have to have a leader mentality and control the situation. I would have said this is boring and started a game or something fun. You dropped the ball man. What are you just standing around waiting to make conversation with some chicks that probably dont have shit to talk about? How old are you man?
/r/seduction10/08/18 02:32 AM
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You probably want to figure out a way to frame things as if you are no longer interested in her. You can still escalate kino but verbally tell her that you dont think things would workout romantically between you 2, essentially friend zoning her, which has the exact opposite effect of her friend zoning you. She might even start chasing you. From there you can start over and do things right.
/r/seduction10/08/18 02:21 AM
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It really depends. You can usualy tell if it has somethinh to do with you. Like if I appoach a girl and she smiles and immediately touches her hair then thats obvious that I had something to do with that. But if a girl moves her hair out of her eyes because its in the way or shes sitting their twirling her hair because shes bored and I approach her as shes doing it then obviously that has nothing to do with. You have to common sense and sometimes it just mighg be inconclusive or a coincidental
/r/seduction09/08/18 10:48 PM
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It doesnt hurt to be able to notice iois when you see them tho. Not being aware of iois and iods only makes you less perceptive. Plus Ive never seen a girl not give some sort of ioi if she is interested. If she doesnt stare into your eyes then shes probably doing something else. I mean I get where you are going but dont shit on iois bro. They are obviously extremely useful and the majority of girls usually give pretty clear iois that you want to be aware of
/r/seduction09/08/18 10:42 PM
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It doesnt matter how scared you are. You cant let emotions dictate what you do. Embrace the fear and do it anyways. You automatically loose by not participating. The other day I thought about this time where I didnt try to kiss this girl like ten years ago when I was in highschool because I was too much of a pussy to pull the trigger. I seriously just yelled fuck out of no where. Ten years later and it still randomly bothers the fuck out of me. I never randomly get pissed about some girl I tried…
/r/seduction09/08/18 10:32 PM
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Yeah dates often ruins things by changing the whole dynamic. You do it just how you would on a date or if you just met her. Escalating works the same in just about every scenario. Playful teasing, push pull and Kino escalation.
/r/seduction09/08/18 10:06 PM
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even in a packed club you want to be the observed. Sometimes when Im in a place like that I will wear a black boa around my neck. It doesnt look that ridiculous with a suit on and I stand out from everyone. Peacocking baisically. But ill also dance in my own zone and really just get lost in it like Im all alone. You would be surprised how many girls just walk up to me on the dance floor and kiss me. Dancing with your friends like you guys are just having a blast usually has a similar effect. Oth…
/r/seduction09/08/18 08:19 AM
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You dont have to believe it, try it for yourself and you can see what Im talking about. Ive had girls actually try to wave me over to them while Im in another set. Girls have walked up and actually sat in my lap while Im in a set. Ive even had bartenders give me their number after seeing me talk to hot girls. Those arnt extremely common things but its very common for me to notice girls watching me. Ive had a bunch of girls even tell me that they noticed me walk in and they thought I seemed fun. …
/r/seduction09/08/18 08:04 AM
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Well there's just too many girls to talk to the first one I see. I like to start with the hottest girl I see. Plus I like to sometimes go fot a warm open by focing the ioi from a distance. Theres just a lot of information that I can gather by waiting even 30 seconds. I think that rules reay helps for AA but Im not worried about that
/r/seduction09/08/18 07:48 AM
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Well you can't really teach that stuff because of how subtle it is. There are too many variables to try and teach social awareness. You kind of have to learn that stuff on your own threw experience. That's why they say the best thing you can do is get into the field and start opening sets. You can't read a book and understand social ques. That's exactly why really smart people that don't socialize enough end up being socially awkward. If they could just learn ot by reading then there wouldn't be…
/r/seduction08/08/18 12:04 AM
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Lol you can't. Next time don't be so hasty. You have to build rapport in person. Texting a girl is the equivalent of a love letter. It's stupid
/r/seduction07/08/18 10:30 PM
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Bad idea lol
/r/seduction07/08/18 09:12 PM
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You don't. Texting isn't interesting. Set up logistics and meet up asap. But fine I'll give you some tips. Send voice recordings and images.
/r/seduction07/08/18 06:28 PM
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You took way too long to try to sleep with her obviously. Probably lost interest or found another guy that fucked her on the firsrt date.
/r/seduction07/08/18 06:27 PM
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I never go on dates, they are fucking lame. Just invite girls to do shit that you actually enjoy doing like if you are having a bbq at your place or a get together. Or to do a hobby that you do anyways like paintball or hitting up the beach with friends. I like to have girls join me to do regular everyday stuff that I have to do anyways like go to the grocery store. Then we'll go back to my place and cook and hangout with some of my buddies abd drink and chill. If you are meeting girls online an…
/r/seduction07/08/18 06:25 PM
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Kino is what you need. Strong eye contact while thinking "I want to fuck you" seems to help get the message threw. Once you do enough kino. Show interest with your words but then follow it up by showing disinterest. "Your actually really cute, too bad you arnt my type." Push pull. Ultimately you have to make a move for the kiss when you are high enough of the kino scale. Watch fo iois and then go for the kiss when you realize she's attracted to you. Talking about sex works too. "I was watching T…
/r/seduction07/08/18 06:17 PM
1

Then all you have to do is hit the gym and do lots of squats and leg exercises. In 6 months you will be annoyed at how many guys try to wife you up.
/r/seduction07/08/18 05:52 PM
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You need to try more things and or talk about the things you are interested in. Usually if you have a lot of different experiences and hobbies then you can relate to just about anyone. Some ideas are to read more books and learn about all kinds of stuff. Try watching anime and other good television shows and movies. Really you are going to try to get as many new experiences as possible so you have stories to tell. But you can always just be actually interested in other people. Try to learn all y…
/r/seduction07/08/18 07:51 AM
1

Don't even get numbers at all. The goal for night game is to make out in the first 20 minutes and then you be the one to pull away from the kiss. Then you hangout the rest of the night. I like to bounce the girls to one more location before inviting them over to my place. Sleeping with them before spending at least 8 hours will usually end in a one night stand. Depending on the kind of girl and how you go aboug seducing her, this isn't always the case. Having a girl crash at your place and not h…
/r/seduction07/08/18 07:39 AM
1

I meet a lot of hot girls but they are mostly boring, uninteresting, shallow girls that don't have any real hobbies and can hardly hold a conversation. They can't even tell a good story or make me laugh. They are dead in the eyes and have no passions in life. When a girl is like that then all she has to offer is sex. Don't be one of those girls and you won't have a problem keeping guys. This world operates on a value system. If you give value you get value back. Most of these girls think all the…
/r/seduction07/08/18 07:19 AM
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Trying to get into a LTR is a lot like trying to loose a leg in combat. You don't try to do anything but go out and meet women. Go into combat balls to the wall and if you just so happen to loose your leg in and explosion then you'll get a medal and get to go home and be forgotten about. Lol
/r/seduction07/08/18 07:02 AM
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Read some books. Go travel, change up your regular day to day routine. Try some new things like meditation. Just sit silently and think and analyze your life. Self reflect on your life and whats important. We are so busy doing shot all day that we rarely take the time to step back and look at what we are doing in the big picture. Here's a few book suggestions. The four agreements The master key system The mastery of love Any books on Buddhism The life you were born to live.
/r/seduction07/08/18 04:04 AM
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Yeah I don't know you or anything, I was kind of talking generally about happiness. I've been deeply in love before too but you never know how long that will last. People change and you change as well. In ten years you wont want what you want now. It's a natural part of life. Another thing is that you actually don't really ever know someone. A lot of times you are in love with an idea or concept that you have of this person. Sometimes it can take ten years to see something that you were ignoring…
/r/seduction07/08/18 04:00 AM
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Look at old pics of yourself and say, at least I'm not that ugly fuck anymore lol
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:06 AM
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Too late lol. Just kidding. Dude escalate!!! Kiss her!!! Invite her back to your place to smoke some pot or something and tell her not to get any ideas because you have to get up early tomorrow. Then fuck her. What's the problem? Look at the sidebar info. Google kiss close and kino escalation. Read my post on kino
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:04 AM
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You would have to completely change how you view this whole dating thing at it's core. You are looking at it like I want to find the perfect one and then I'll be happy forever, but there is no perfect one. Even if there was a perfect one and you found her, you would still be wondering if there is better out there. I look at it a lot differently. I look at relationships with women the same way I view relationship with anyone. I have friends that I play ball with, I have friends that I watch anime…
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:01 AM
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Na for real tho, you're handsome as shit. No homo dude. Reddit doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. Easy 9 bro, you could seriously model if you wanted. It's a real gay ass industry tho so fair warning. I mean gay as in dicks in your face lol. Start talking to these chicks man. If they are locking eye contact then they definitely want you to talk to them. A smile is irrelevant and way too obvious really. A quick "hey don't I know you from somewhere?" "What's your name?" "I guess yo…
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:24 AM
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Look at yourself bro. What is it about you that isn't attracting the right kind of girls? Are you a fun interesting person that is doing something with your life? Are you a good person with a good mental foundation? Or are you just another regular boring guy that does the same shit every weekend and really doesn't have anything going on. The fact that you don't seem happy without an awesome girl really says a lot about you. My guess is that even if you found the perfect girl you would fuck it up…
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:14 AM
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A lot of the times you kist might not be noticing when a girl is trying to get your attention. Girls are subtle and usually don't make it obvious at all. Even when a girl walks up to me on the dance and literally all she wants is for me to take her home and fuck her without even asking her name, she will do something like stand completely still just a few feet away from me. Any regular guy would see her and be like "wtf is she doing? Why is she standing still on the dance floor? Welp, whatever, …
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:00 AM
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This clearly isn't a popular answer but I stand by it... Never!! Instead just spend all your time with the one girl if thats what you really want to do. No need to put a label on it. If you never get tired of being with just her then keep spending as much time with her as you want. If you're tired of multiple girls then stop for a while. I stop talking to all girls for a while sometimes. But I don't believe in monogamy anyways. Just do whatever you want. The only reason you are questioning it is…
/r/seduction07/08/18 12:44 AM
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Wear the dress because it makes a good story, then just go change real quick. From a game stand point you really shouldn't loose any points as long as you make her do something in return. But you have to make her do something as well or it might come off like you would just do anything for this chick.
/r/seduction07/08/18 12:24 AM
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Well you move faster. You have a 1 to 10 scale of kino. 1 would be stuff like high fives 10 would be making out. The goal is to get to 10 as quickly as possible by going up 1 point at a time. You can't jump from 1 to 10. Well you can but you probably shouldn't. I don't go on dates anymore but lets ignore that for now. When you are on a date, most guys are waiting until the end of the night to go for the kiss. But why? Wouldn't there be a lot more sexual tension if you made out in the first 20 mi…
/r/seduction06/08/18 11:31 PM
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Ahhh yes, well that makes complete sense. I'm really not that young, I'm going on 29. Trust me, it really just doesn't work like that here, especially if the girl is hot. Maybe you can pull it off if you have a really large following or a really dope instagram but your chances are still probably going to be pretty low.
/r/seduction06/08/18 08:39 PM
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Whether she's ready to have sex or not really falls on you if she's already into you. You are the one leading and you are moving dangerously slow. Try to remember that can never really move to fast. Too fast would be like a few hours of hanging out. You should always move as if she's down to have sex during the first date, as long as you have spent at least 8 hours total with her. You can't really move too fast because she can always stop you. She isn't going to blame you for trying to sleep wit…
/r/seduction06/08/18 08:34 PM
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Do you live in America? Because that doesn't fly in America unless you at least know the girl. If you do live in America I honestly just wouldn't believe you unless you are rich or something.
/r/seduction06/08/18 08:24 PM
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You know because she's going on a third date with you. I don't know how you even made it to a 3rd date without at least kissing her. You gotta make some moves man.
/r/seduction06/08/18 08:20 PM
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You should of never followed her back or complimented her. You have to follow up showing interest with disinterest and all you did was show interest. Plus you should of talked to her in person. You can't pullby msging girls on instagram
/r/seduction06/08/18 08:19 PM
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Do what you would do in any normal relationship with a guy friend. You don't ask a guy out to dinner friday night, or to get some coffee, or to even to go out to the bar with just you and him unless there is a purpose to it like going to pick up girls. Instead you might tell him to come hit the bar with you and another friend or 2 on the same day. You might tell him you are going to go do something in an hour and you wanted to know if he wanted to tag along. You might go over his house and smoke…
/r/seduction06/08/18 06:14 PM
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You don't have to describe your relationship to her or tell her that you should hangout after graduation, you don't have to say anything. Just keep doing whatever you're doing until you are in a better position to make a move on her after you graduate. If you have to tell her anything, tell her that you hope she stays in contact with you after you graduate.
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:46 AM
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You don't have to describe your relationship to her or tell her that you should hangout after graduation, you don't have to say anything. Just keep doing whatever you're doing until you are in a better position to make a move on her after you graduate. If you have to tell her anything, tell her that you hope she stays in contact with you after you graduate.
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:46 AM
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Online dating is a bit different because you haven't even ever met each other. I don't fuck with online dating. I'd still write her as little as possible because I usually have better shit to do. Not everything she writes warrants a response and she is likely going to double text you every time.
/r/seduction06/08/18 05:56 AM
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You should be constantly changing into the person you want to be. There's a difference between wishing you were this fun outgoing type and just copping out and saying that's just not me and having the courage to try to be how you truly want to be. You have to be completely honest with yourself as to what kind of person you really want to be and then work towards that goal. You should really think about what comes along with the kind of person you are trying to be. For instance if you want to be …
/r/seduction06/08/18 05:26 AM
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Should of never asked her on a date. Shows too much interest.
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:59 AM
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Honestly I would suggest that you don't go for it until after graduating. She could loose her job like that. If you can get her then you can get her after you graduate. If you swing and miss now then yout whole relationship can change with her for the worst, even if she actually likes you she will want to distance herself. Don't listen to these idiots telling you to go for it. They don't give a fuck about you or her. You can get her a gift if you want but dont ask her out until it becomes approp…
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:57 AM
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To do kino you just need to start small. Give her a hug or a kiss on the cheek when you meet. Play thumb war. Tell her to pug out her hand and slap it while calling her a bad girl. Just google a list of things you can do for kino. Look up Richard la Ruinas micro escalation on youtube. I did a post aboug it to. I'm sure you can find it.
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:46 AM
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Stop going on dates. If you are only getting girls from online dating then thats not an option. You just have to have make the time she spends with you enjoyable and not boring. There's a long list of shit to do that. Google pua question game. Works really good. Try opening sets in person and learning some game. It will cross over to your online dating success. Make sure you escalate kino and use lots of push pull. Also have a good reason for her to go back to your place like to smoke somd pot o…
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:43 AM
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Yeah I agree, I do the same thing. You really don't see it mentioned very often but it's very important just like you said.
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:34 AM
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You don't need to buy anything to learn game. You have to go out and open sets and read a few books.
/r/seduction05/08/18 11:33 PM
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There's nothing to do. How hard is it to not date a girl. Sleep with her and then don't date her. Go out with her and then don't date her. If she says something like where is this relationship going then you say, let's see where it goes, I like hanging ouy with you and you are contemplating being exclusive with her but you need a little more time. I personally don't do monogamous relationships at all so it doesn't really matter if I date the girl until the other girl get back and then date her t…
/r/seduction05/08/18 11:31 PM
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I said it before and I'll say it again, this is why you don't do dates
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:53 PM
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It's hard to say because I picked up a lot of things naturally before I came across the pua stuff. When I really started practing this stuff I went out almost every night for 6 months and I got really good but I was always naturally pretty good with girls. The first time I saw the pick up artist on vh1 like 10 years ago I immediately picked up this ridiculously hot girl. I don't know how much had to do with what I learned and how much I already knew naturally tho.
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:52 PM
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You're welcome but I might have gotten carried away. But you should try some new stuff, you're really young and there's so many ways to enjoy amazing sex. I truly believe that everyone is into bdsm, they just don't know it yet. I've never slept with a girl who didn't like it in one way or another. You should really look into it. Having sex in public is really hot too. Giving head while he drives is always awesome as well. Anyways I'll tone it down. Dirty talk is a great thing that girls can do r…
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:45 PM
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Yeah you should read all the sidebar info on here. Most of this stuff isn't really targeted for 16 year olds but it's all great for understanding how girls think and it can make a huge difference in your ability to attract girls. Simple things like eye contact and kino can make a huge difference at you age. Some quick fundamental things you should know are things like push pull. "Hey you're actually really cute, too bad you arnt my type". That's just a rough example of push pull. Playful teasing…
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:25 PM
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Read the sidebar of this sub. It has plenty of info for beginners.
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:39 PM
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My feelings arnt the least bit hurt buddy. I'm telling you because I know what I'm talking about. If want to write girls all day then you are much better off sticking to dating apps. If you think you are going to write random girls on instagram and they are going to go out with you then you are sadly mistaken and you are wasting your time like a schmuck. Ultimately the goal is to get girls and I'm telling you not to waste your time doing something that will not give you good results. If a guy co…
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:38 PM
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My feelings arnt the least bit hurt buddy. I'm telling you because I know what I'm talking about. If you want to write girls all day then you are much better off sticking to dating apps. If you think you are going to write random girls on instagram and they are going to go out with you then you are sadly mistaken and you are wasting your time like a schmuck. Ultimately the goal is to get girls and I'm telling you not to waste your time doing something that will not give you good results. If a gu…
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:38 PM
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Lol noone is trying to have a conversation threw text like that. "So what's up?" "Oh nothing much" "so yeah, how have you been" "I've been good, you?" "Good, good. So I saw you at that party, pretty good party right?" "Yeah it was fun. I remember seeing you as well" "yeah I was the guy who looked like I would have a conversation like this over insta gram messenger" dude just stop. You don't build rapport threw text. Me and my buddies have a rule, if we don't make out with the girl then the numbe…
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:20 PM
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That isn't a shit test, that is a straight up indicator of disinterest. Your energy is too much if someone says something like that. You want to match the energy of the group. If they are real chill you be real chill. If they are all hyped you he hyped, but don't be over hyped
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:13 PM
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I don't know your friend or what he did but go ahead and give it a try if you want lol. I can't imagine that not being a massive waste of time. Maybe in highschool that might work a little. The real question is why would you do that? Is it really coming down to something like that? That sounds like some ultra desperate catfish type shit. Just go out and open some sets like a man.
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:10 PM
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It's more like, "hey I just picked up some really fire bud but I have noone to smoke it with because my buddy is working late tonight. I hate smoking alone, come keep me company." You can't build rapport threw texting. You either have it or you don't. You plan on texting her to get her number to ask her out? You obviously don't get it so nevermind, do you lol
/r/seduction05/08/18 09:04 PM
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Wear some sexy lengire with some high heels. Cat ears and an anal tail. Or a regular tail. Tell me to lay down and smother me with your ass. Role play is always hot, like I'm a burglar and you are a victim and I break in and rape you. A fake or really dull knife helps. Going on a date while you wear a remote control vibrator that I control. Cooking with nothing but an apron on. Lap dance if your good at it. Twerking is hot. Dirty talk. Then there's the whole dom sub bdsm dynamic to have fun with…
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:58 PM
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You don't. You don't text unless you are setting up logistics to meet up. Texting is for your girl friends.
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:48 PM
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Yes, it's weird and retarded
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:47 PM
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You're very welcome. Stay cool
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:46 PM
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Your protein intake is going to play a much bigger role then how many calories you eat. As long as you are getting in a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight then you can put on a lot of muscle with a 1000 calorie diet.
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:44 PM
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I have an extremely high metabolism too but you can still put on muscle pretty easily without spending a lot of money. My food budget was seriously like around $125 a month. What I did was drink a protein shake after a workout and one before I went to bed. I ate oatmeal everyday for breakfast, top ramen with 2 eggs and some cheese in it for lunch and breakfast tacos that consist of 6 corn tortillas fried in oil, 3 scrambled eggs topped with cheese and hot sauce. I'd get about 150 grams of protei…
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:41 PM
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I've never been attracted to a girl by simply reading her comments. I don't know how you did it but well done.
/r/seduction05/08/18 08:20 PM
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Just make it before hand and put it in the fridge. Then drink it when you are home alone with her.
/r/seduction05/08/18 04:20 AM
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I don't remember how long it last but I doubt you will have a problem getting it up for the rest of the night no matter the circumstances.
/r/seduction05/08/18 04:19 AM
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Drink some horny goat weed tea. You were just nervous, no biggie. You should probably stop jerking off for a bit tho
/r/seduction05/08/18 04:04 AM
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Im confused
/r/seduction05/08/18 04:02 AM
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Lol yes I'm positive they did not think I was gay. The gay guys would actually only hang out in clicks with girls or other gay guys, which is a lot different than what I was doing. I made a bunch of guy friends and it's not like I wasn't dating girls and making out in hallways between classes and shit. I would obviously flirt with the girls as well. If its the kiss on the cheek thing that made you ask that you have to remember that all the girls greeted guys like this. It's extremely normal, it …
/r/seduction05/08/18 03:57 AM
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Whats the problem, that's a good thing.
/r/seduction04/08/18 11:05 PM
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No girl wants to be set up by her mom. Plus it makes you kinda lame in general. If you meet her in person then go for it but don't msg the daughter of some girl when she doesn't even know you. There's no way to not come off desperate like that because any guy that gets girls would not waste his time with something so lame.
/r/seduction04/08/18 11:02 PM
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Don't hit her up.
/r/seduction04/08/18 10:57 PM
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Just dont get stuck in cycle of only hanging out with the same people and doing the same shit over and over. Talk and socialize with people from every click even if it seems like you don't have anything in common. To as much stuff as possible like going to football games and what not. Get a part time job. It wouldn't hurt to read a few pua books so you can start understanding how girls think. If I knew some of the shit I knos now I would of slayed in highschool. Simple stuff like eye contact and…
/r/seduction04/08/18 10:52 PM
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Oh my bad. Sets are like a group with girls in them. A 2 set would be 2 girls together. I probably posted something about kino escalation but if you don't know how to escalate then use the internet dude. There's a ton of books and videos. Learn some game. The mystery method. Mode 1. The Natural by Richard la Ruina are good books to start.
/r/seduction04/08/18 08:43 PM
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How many sets are you opening a week? Are you escalating physically as soon as possible? If you open 50 sets a week and you escalate physically then you should be good. You can get way better by learning some actual game. If you don't know what you are doing wrong then you don't know what to do right. Read a few books and practice.
/r/seduction04/08/18 08:02 PM
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Show up with a good wing and you are in there
/r/seduction04/08/18 07:55 PM
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How dare you insult night game like that. Night game for life. Dates suck lol
/r/seduction04/08/18 07:54 PM
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My hot girl friends are usually unavailable or not interested in me or I might not be interested in them. They are always girls that I think are really cool people and I'm actually interested in being around them.
/r/seduction04/08/18 07:47 PM
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I'm saying you need to man up and think about what you sound like. You have a bunch of other issues that you need to work on if you're asking people on reddit if you're pretty enough. If you were my friend then I would roast you until the end of your life for that. If I say looks are all that matters then what? Use your brain and think for yourself. One girl says ur a 3 and ur like "I must be a 3" you sound retarded and like you have very little self awareness.
/r/seduction04/08/18 12:41 AM
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No you're trying to be a little bitch " Am I pretty enough mommy? Tell me I'm pretty enough"
/r/seduction04/08/18 12:17 AM
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50 sets a week
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:46 PM
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Just do something that doesn't take much commitment like smoking a joint in your car. You don't have to go on a date or some bullshit. Dates are lame anyways.
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:45 PM
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Stop looking for confirmation. I just told you that you can't be lower then a 5 and if you workout and take care of yourself the lowest you can be is a 6. Anything under 5 is reserved for looking abnormal. There's no way you look as bad as a 500 lb man with a nice haircut. Even if you were a 3 and that's as good as you can possibly look who the fuck cares? What are you going to sit there and dwel in it or are you going to try and makr up for it by having a lot of confidence in yourself, getting …
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:39 PM
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There's no way you are a 3 out of ten unless you are extremely obese or deformed. Any guy that hits the gym, grooms himself well and has good hygiene can be a 6. You probably give iff the energy of someone who thinks he isn't attractive at all. Stop. Where do you live? You need to read a couple books, start wearing suits and go out and open 50 sets a week.
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:25 PM
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Try not to but if it happens it happens.
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:19 PM
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The games are not necessary at all.
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:18 PM
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Attractiveness is the single determining factor for guys and girls. How attractive a girl finds a guy is divided into 5 things fairly equally. Physical appearance, confidence, personality, social value and survival value. A combination of these things is how a girl determines how attractive she finds a guy so we have to do a good job of improving these traits and knowing how to show them off. Now for girls it's actually a lot simpler because guys are pretty simple. A girl is divided into physica…
/r/seduction03/08/18 11:16 PM
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You don't have the skill set that people refer to as game. It doesn't matter how confident of a person I am, if you put me in an NBA without knowing anything about basketball, not only will I be terrible, I will be extremely unconfident. I'd have to be an idiot to be confident and not know what the hell I'm doing lol. Read a couple books and go out and approach like 50 girls a week. Think of it like practice and you will eventually get good with women and be a lot more confident around them beca…
/r/seduction03/08/18 10:42 PM
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I think most of the time people are confusing what being introverted is and they use it as an excuse to not have any balls and be a shy person or not want to put the effort into being good at socializing. I'm introverted and I can be just a social as any extrovert. It just drains me like crazy and it takes a lot of effort to learn how to deal with all the stimuli. It's overwhelming being in large groups and that's why I practice being in those situations. Sometimes I stay inside by myself for mo…
/r/seduction03/08/18 10:38 PM
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You can't fight the truth so don't try. Instead all you have to do is act how someone acts when they have an abundance of women and then it will start to become a habit and that will eventually become part of your character. There are a few crucial things you need to do to act this way. One thing to do is everytime you show interest show disinterest and vice versa. An example of this in conversation is push pull. "Hey you're really cute, too bad you arn't my type." Or you can do it non verbally …
/r/seduction03/08/18 10:21 PM
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The college days are great. Plenty of house parties and cool shit to do like go see a bunch of live bands playing in a basement or backyard or some shit. There's no need to go to clubs when you are around that many girls day to day. That shit is over when you get out of school tho bro. If you arn't going out then you simply arn't meeting girls. I'm probably a rare kind of guy that really just doesn't give a fuck about going on a date. I mean I'm not saying you can't make them fun, I make going t…
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:51 AM
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There might be a problem with the function you are inviting them to and or how you are going about inviting them. I'm trying to help out but I realize that there just might be a major difference between how we run game on a fundamental level and that's probably why you can only ask girls out on dates. For me dates aren't even really an option. A lot of it depends on how the girls already view you. I set myself up as the fun spontaneous guy that does shit on the spot because that's actually what …
/r/seduction03/08/18 03:54 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8irxnj/the_8_different_types_of_women/?utm_source=reddit-android
/r/seduction02/08/18 10:04 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8irxnj/the_8_different_types_of_women/?utm_source=reddit-android
/r/seduction02/08/18 10:04 PM
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Do you live in America? Nothing is 100% full proof but certain things have much better odds than others. What you are doing is trying to maximize your chances. Of course every girl is different and you are different so you wonhave the exact same results. Even your environment makes a difference. Someone who is reallh good knows how to calibrate for the situation and use what is his best chance. I categorize the girl into 1 of 8 different types and ajust my strategy accordingly. Think of it like …
/r/seduction02/08/18 03:46 AM
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Do you live in America? It's not a pretext for a date, I dont go on dates unless she's my girlfriend. It establishes a relationship where you can just hit them up and hangout which is exactly what you should want. It has nothing to do with being scared and I said you don't have to make it a group thing. Then I gave an example of getting her one on one if that's what you want. I feel like you didn't actually read what I wrote. You do you tho but I think he was already doing things that way and it…
/r/seduction02/08/18 03:35 AM
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Everyone is born with gad lol. Anxiety is the default setting. Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we react to it. I didn't even talk to anyone but my older brother for a really really long time. Not even my mom or dad. I spoke to no one. Everyone thought there was something wrong with me. Imagine a kid that goes to school and refuses to talk lol. You would think I was mute. The first words that I said to one of the ladies of the day care I went to was "I'll slit your throat" lol. That's …
/r/seduction02/08/18 12:06 AM
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Write them as little as possible. You only want to set up the meet up, no small talk on conversations threw text or social media. If they are specifying hanging out as friends before you even hangout then you are asking them to hang out all wrong. There should be no reason for them to specify that it's just as friends unless you ate basically asking them out on a date. Do your best to not let it come off like a one on one formal date. You can even go put with her and some friends and do somethin…
/r/seduction01/08/18 10:24 PM
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Maybe in a place like the UK but in America you can get by on only game as long as you look like a normal human being. Any normal guy can be a six if he does as much as he can and a 6 is enough.
/r/seduction01/08/18 09:32 PM
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You probably arnt escalating physically or you are just boring. Talking about boring shit, doing boring shit. You could be showing too much interest. Remember to show disinterest before or after you show interest everytime
/r/seduction01/08/18 09:29 PM
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In places like the UK looks just completely dominate. People are just naturally a lot more social and open to talking to strangers in the US. It's not very normal to strike up a conversation with people in some places and not have an obvious motive, so you never even get a chance to get to that crucial turning point where you can get them to chase you. You only become a dancing monkey if you keep on trying to entertain people by stacking routines. That's why it's crucial to flip it on them after…
/r/seduction01/08/18 08:52 PM
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Yeah fuck that shit lol. You need to analyze and understand why stuff works and doesn't work tho. Then you can adapt things to be more optimal or even make up your own stuff.
/r/seduction01/08/18 07:32 PM
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You are using the wrong stuff. The things you are saying are more like hooks that you delivery after an opener. Forget these guys that say you can't just say a line that you read tho. I'll tell you exactly what to say. This is for American girls for the most part tho, so if you live in the UK or something then you are oug of luck. Also this is almost strictly for night game. This is one of my go to openers when I'm really trying to maximize my chances of getting locked into a set. There's a lot …
/r/seduction01/08/18 07:30 PM
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Don't give them feedback unless they ask. It just hurts even more like that lol. Also, from my experience, you girls give the absolute worst advice. There's very very few girls that can give good advice on picking up girls. It's like trying to learn boxing from a ballerina. I love asking girls for their advice just so I can laugh at how clueless they are on the subject.
/r/seduction01/08/18 06:52 PM
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I try to say stuff that I feel like I maybe shouldn't say. For instance I was at a party that had nothing but coast gaurd folk and it was all stuffy and proper and shit. I said "hey does anyone actually know how a bong works?" Everyone got mad silent because they aren't allowed to smoke weed, then this one guy says "yeah actually I think it works like bla bla bla" we had a good ten minute conversation about bongs and that single statement started the party. Everyone loosened up and started talki…
/r/seduction01/08/18 06:48 PM
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You were texting her small talk. That's a fatal mistake. Texting people back is like work for girls. Set up the date and leave it alone l. Texting is only for setting up logistics. When I text a girl it is only to invite her to something specific. She can either come or she can't. There is no whats your schedule bullshit or none of that. Most of the time its the day of. "Hey I was meeting a friend for some drinks but he bailed on me, come keep me company. "Hey I got a pizza to share with my boy …
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:33 AM
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Day game is a real bitch even when you get good at it. It takes some time to get it just right. You have to go for the insta date and it's tough when most people are busy doing shit in the day time. College and social circles are crucial at your age when it comes to girls. Soon as you hit 21 and can go to bars clubs and lounges everything will change for you. If you are meeting girls in the day time then try to go where girls are stationery for the most part. You can get girls that are working a…
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:30 AM
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One girl said something like "ok what do you have to say?" I should of said never mind but I said fuck it and ended up delivery a half ass opinion opener. She waited for me to finish and basically said "is that it? Ok bye" Back in high school I was at a football game and there was this really hot girl in the bleachers. I was the only one of my friends to have the balls to talk to her. I walked up and asked if I could sit next to her for a second. She said no. Then I said something that I can't r…
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:23 AM
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Just don't buy any drinks.
/r/seduction31/07/18 10:35 PM
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I'm just messing. But I don't like day game. It's a huge waste of time and it's not fun. The conversion rates are much lower, you usually have to do it solo and it takes a lot more effort to find girls. I'll do some day game if it just so happens to be convenient but I would never set anymore time aside for it like I did when I was practicing it. Night game for life
/r/seduction31/07/18 10:17 PM
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Depends where you live. Downtown Boston you can just walk around anywhere. In Tallahassee you should go to Grocery stores or walk around the FSU campus. San Diego you want to hit the beach. South Florida you can hit the beach or the Saw Grass mall. In Houston you should hit up the little coffee shops. Just go wherever the girls are. Day games gay anyways lol
/r/seduction31/07/18 10:08 PM
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You never get over it. You just think about it differently. Like it's a good thing. When you get that feeling just think of it like excitement. If I get really strong AA it makes me smile now and I get all giddy because the girl is probably really hot if she's making me feel a lot of AA
/r/seduction31/07/18 10:02 PM
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Logistics over everything if you ask me. I'll live in cardboard box for good logistics lol
/r/seduction31/07/18 09:59 PM
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Bars, clubs and lounges. You don't need to smoke or drink
/r/seduction31/07/18 09:57 PM
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For day game right? Humor and playful teasing is the way to go in general but really you want to do a cold read and make up a story that gets her to visualize something. For instance "you look like you would be good into art. Are you one of those artsy girls that didn't realize how hot she was until after high school, so now you are kinda shy around guys you don't know, but in a cute anime way?" Now she's going to either say yes and you just won or she's going to kinda laugh and say no. Either w…
/r/seduction31/07/18 09:56 PM
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Go out and open 50 sets a week while practicing your game. Read books and improve yourself on your free time. It won't be long until u start getting laid.
/r/seduction30/07/18 10:55 PM
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I would assume that you will eventually see her again.
/r/seduction30/07/18 10:52 PM
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Lol yeah that's rough man. I can just imagine you using every trick in the book to no avail lol. There's really nothing you can do about stuff like that and it just sucks. I wouldn't get hardly any girls if I was in your shoes. You should seriously consider moving to California, Boston, South Florida, or even Houston before you ever consider plastic surgery. I'm still on the fence about prostitution. I just don't know If I would love or hate it. I don't know how to feel about it really.
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:49 PM
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He lives in the UK. That literally changes everything because of how their society is set up. Your social value is connected to your looks over there so if you are good looking you automatically have high social value which is going to make you automatically confident. The likeliness of your survival value will be high with a lot of social value. Your personality can be terrible and you would still be considered a catch. So yeah he's kinda fucked in that situation. The attraction thing still wor…
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:42 PM
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Oh fuck you live in the Uk? Well that explains everything. The MM tactics don't work in the Uk lol. It's almost strictly for American girls. Well this is a big misunderstanding. Yeah girls are probably going off of looks a lot over their because from what I understand, striking up a convo with a random girl is a lot harder and more out of the ordinary. So of course you are going to have girls naturally relying on how a guy looks in order to determine if they are worth their time. You likely won'…
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:29 PM
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Are you kidding me? Women are nothing like men at all!!! They don't think or act like men and they definitely don't look like men. No wonder you think looks matter so much. There has been countless studies that prove that women do not rate physical appearance as being particularly important for attraction. This is not a topic that is even worth debating. You are simply lacking information that is easily accessible. Game doesn't start when you walk up to the set, it starts as soon as you walk up …
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:19 PM
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Try wearing a suit or dress shoes, jeans and a blazer the next time you go out. If your sets a 98% instant rejection then you are definitely doing something wrong. You want to spike your perceived social value. I like to do a dance move as soon as I enter a venue. Everyone takes note and it usually makes all of the sets more approachable. Then I'm talking and laughing a lot with my friends while I get a drink. I'm always the observed and never the observer, which means I'm never looking around o…
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:09 PM
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Looks, confidence, personality, social value and survival value IS attraction when it comes to girls. Looks make up 20% of what women find attractive. An ugly ass dude can pull up with Rihanna on his arm aka a ten in social value and pull way more girls than a perfect ten model. You guys simply don't understand attraction when it comes to girls because you think they work like us men. We have been programmed to be attracted to physical appearance almost exclusively when it comes to choosing a pa…
/r/seduction30/07/18 08:39 PM
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I have to suggest that you learn some technique. Its like saying I want to be good at basketball by being my natural confident self. Yes you want to be confident, but if you don't know how to dribble, shoot, play defense and all the other stuff then you are just a confident person who sucks at basketball. It's going to be harder and harder to remain confident when your results are so terrible. Guys who seem like naturals just picked up on techniques naturally. You have to actively learn these te…
/r/seduction30/07/18 08:25 PM
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Your game isn't good enough. You can always improve your game. There are probably just a few key things that you aren't getting right. Game is a lot like playing street fighter lol. One little move that you learn can make all the difference in how good you are. If you aren't getting the results you want then its you. It's not the girls or your friends or your looks. So lets figure out what the problem is and fix it. Lets start with how you look. How do you dress? Do you work out? What kind of ha…
/r/seduction30/07/18 08:07 PM
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You fell into the date trap. Gonon dates is like shooting yourself in the foot. You are the onr showing all the interest and trying to chase her. Now she's likely just bored of you now that she knows she can have you if shr wanted. Next time dont set up hanging out like it's a date. Just invite her on the spotvyo do something that you are going to do whether she comes or not. One on ond dates are fo when you meet a girl online, schmucks, and for your girlfriends or girls you are already sleeping…
/r/seduction30/07/18 07:32 PM
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Me and Tom Ford wear suits anywhere we go, I don't care if its a picnic Lol. When you wear a suit to a place noone else is wearing one, you will find girls coming up to you out of the wood works. It's basically peacocking on 100 in a good no ridiculous way. Jeans and a blazer work great too but I'd wear a tux to a dive bar if I felt like it lol. A well fitted suit can instantly add 1 whole point to your looks. It's basically and enchanted item, your personality is kind of irrelevant. The sooner …
/r/seduction30/07/18 05:25 PM
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Unfortunately they are too busy doing shit with their lives to give enough fucks to make infield videos. Tyler is only average looking because he puts in a lot of effort into his looks and style. A fluffy balding ginger is definitely below average on any girls scale. He wears nice clothes and does his best to stay well groomed. Any guy that isnt deformed can look as good as Tyler with enough effort. You obviously have a deep rooted belief in this whole looks thing, so I'm not going to waste any …
/r/seduction30/07/18 05:08 PM
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What? No lol. You are already in a relationship with someone you have sex with. You are in a relationship with anyone you know. You don't need to label these relationships or put rules and restrictions on them. You don't ever say to your best friend that you are now best friends starting August 5th and that means this this this and that. The point is to make her feel like you care about her as a person and you arnt just using her like an object to jerk off. That's what she really wants. If you f…
/r/seduction30/07/18 04:58 PM
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Lol yeah you don't need a suit but I tell everyone to wear suits. A nice cheap suit from H&M can do wonders for a guy. If a suit like that is wearing you then you probably look like a schmuck in some jeans too lol
/r/seduction30/07/18 04:48 PM
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No I won't let him just be him, I want him to be the best version of himself. Sure he can do day game as well if he wants but day game takes a lot more time and energy and it takes a certain kind of person to do it successfully. It's much harder than night game so I was suggesting what I think would be best for him. How many times do you think a guy like this has even gone out to a club or bar? He hasn't even been going out to talk to girls which is really the only reason to go out. Of course he…
/r/seduction30/07/18 04:45 PM
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Im not going to get into the looks matter debate. It isn't a myth because I've seen it, I know some of these guys so you can't tell me they don't exist. It's not a myth and I have nothing to gain by lying to you. Anyone who is not deformed or obese can be at least get to a 6 with a nice haircut, nice clothes and good hygiene. You might look at them and think, he's not ugly, but thats only because they are always looking their very best and women respond to that effort. They really do put a lot o…
/r/seduction30/07/18 05:40 AM
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Read some books. The mystery method, the natural by Richard la Ruina, Mode 1, Models. Then go out and open like 50 sets a week and you will 100% start sleepimg with women again. You would essentially be cramming in 1 year of interacting with women for a normal guy into every single week. The truth is that a lot of guys don't even approach 50 women in a lifetime.
/r/seduction30/07/18 04:04 AM
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Anything, anything at all lol
/r/seduction30/07/18 03:59 AM
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I think you might be misunderstanding me. I'm not saying everyone hooks up right away with the person they get into a relationship with. Nor am I saying you have to wait to get your own place to have a relationship. What Im saying is that not having your own room or place is no excuse to not sleep with women. I'm assuming you are a boring person because of the things you are saying, not simply because you don't like to drink or go out to bars and clubs. Interesting is subjective but If you were …
/r/seduction30/07/18 03:57 AM
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Any guy who uses his looks as an excuse better be deformed or extremely obese. A guy who thinks like you can't attract very many women because, not only are you not very handsome, you don't even act like you are. I know some ugly ass dudes that pull baddies. It's no coincidence that they act like they are as handsome as they come. They would never even suggest that their looks are holding them back. An ugly guy with a lot of game that cant get a lot of women simply doesn't exist.
/r/seduction30/07/18 03:09 AM
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You don't have to drink to go out. In fact one of my wingmen never drinks and I sometimes don't drink either. Everyone has this idea that if you meet a girl at a club or bar then you cant have a relationship with her but that's a load of crap. If you don't have thr means to hook up then what makes you think you can be in a relationship? That's completely ridiculous. You sound boring, completely uninteresting or fun and like you are so desperate to be in a relationship because you don't know how …
/r/seduction30/07/18 03:00 AM
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With that mentality I doubt you even pick up girls hardly at all anyways.
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:47 AM
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The guy who doesn't know how to swim doesn't like swimming pools. How could you like it if you arn't going out and pulling girls? It's time to do things differently and get out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:42 AM
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You never really need to bring it up. She will eventually bring it up and my response is usually the same thing everytime. A slight look of confusion and then I say "what? I thought we were already in a relationship. Did you want to put a title on it and do the whole lets put rules and regulations on our relationship thing? Na I'm good on that. But I like our relationship and I hope we become even closer."
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:37 AM
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Wtf does it matter? You look how you look. Try to look as good as possible but don't dwell on that shit. Dont be a little bitch man, go out and open some sets
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:27 AM
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Go to bars and clubs and start opening sets my dude. Wear a suit
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:25 AM
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That's a bitch made move and if one of my friends said some shit like that I slap him.
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:19 AM
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If you can't get girls with your friends then you cant get girls without them either. That's just a lame thing to do no matter how you try to justify. Up your game don't be a little jealous bitch about it. That's really some shit girls would do and any guy who do that deserves to get roasted for being a little bitch lol
/r/seduction30/07/18 02:14 AM
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You just automatically assume they are better looking? All of my friends are better looking then me but there's just no way they are competing with me when it comes to girls. He needs to up his game threw learning better technique. What kind of prick stops going out with his friends to pick up girls because they are better looking anyways?
/r/seduction29/07/18 04:58 PM
2

Just google pua question game
/r/seduction29/07/18 09:17 AM
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Ok so you read the secret, good job, now read the rest of them. It doesn't matter how much anxiety you feel, all that matters is that you do what you have to do anyways. Don't be a coward, we all feel that extreme anxiety at one point. The difference between me and you is way back in high school I did what I wanted to do regardless of the anxiety. Now I have less anxiety when social. You are literally letting a stupid feeling control you. That feeling of anxiety is just a feeling, it doesn't eve…
/r/seduction29/07/18 08:50 AM
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Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right. You're the only one who can make yourself do something. If you are more afraid to talk to another human being then you are of being a hopeless virgin for the rest of your life then you need to reorganize your priorities. You don't have the resolve to talk to girl. Your problem stems from how you think. Not many people realize this bit what you think has a huhr impact on what you do. Obviously because you can't do without…
/r/seduction29/07/18 06:45 AM
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Anytime bro
/r/seduction29/07/18 06:20 AM
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I'm sure she does miss her ex but what I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with your ability to seduce her. You can make her forget about him if you do it right. You can still recover. Use her as a pawn to get other girls. Ask her to go out with you for that exact purpose. Make her your wing man. Then not only will you attract other girls by having her helping you, she will start to become interested in you because you arnt sweating her and you are attracting other women. Dont simlly ask her…
/r/seduction29/07/18 05:44 AM
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Drop day game all together and just stick to night game for a while. Go out like 2 or 3 tines a week and try to open 50 sets. Have a routine opener and hook to use so you don't have to think too much. Once you dobit enough and get more confident in knowing exactly what to do then things get easier. If you are spending 3 years not talking to girls then you are just failing at attempting to attempt to talk to girls. You need to get use to embarrassing yourself. During the day just go up to girls a…
/r/seduction29/07/18 05:36 AM
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Yeah closing is kind of difficult when you go out solo so try to have a wing. If not it works the same way. You want to have a reason to tellher to come over or to go to her place. Weed and frozen pizza usually does it. People are in groups so you have to either pull two girls at once and then sleep with both of them. Or bring them both home and see which one backs out first. She'll wait politely while you bang her friend in the other room as long as you give her a chance to opt in on the fun. O…
/r/seduction29/07/18 03:53 AM
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Go out and open more sets. It's hard to think of some chick you haven't even slept with when you are talking to other girls. In the future you should really avoid formal dates. If she has to say I'm not really looking for anything then you have already shown an unbalanced amount of interest. You're still hung up on her so I'm sure she picked up that needy vibe and it turned her off. Her ex has nothing to do with it. She shouldn't be that positive that you like her. This is not.the same as friend…
/r/seduction29/07/18 03:45 AM
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You should avoid formal dates. Playing the question game is a sure fire way to make interesting convo on a date but you can only play it once.
/r/seduction29/07/18 03:30 AM
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You're in there, nothing to worry. Don't be detoured for a second. Go in with extreme confidence and let her know you are mature enough to handle her and any shit twst she throws at you.
/r/seduction29/07/18 03:28 AM
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I don't think it's a sex drive issue. It sounds like you just aren't having a good time. You arn't enjoying what you are doing and it's starting to feel like work. You are drinking in an attempt to make it feel less like work, just like someone who drinks to cope with going to work. The initial excitement of doing pickup has worn off and now you only have the goal of getting laid like a jobs goal is getting money. You aren't interested in what you are doing or the people you are talking to becau…
/r/seduction28/07/18 07:01 PM
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Working out is good for anyones self esteem. Most people who are depressed are simply not getting enough sleep, not spending enough time outside and are not socializing enough. For instance an extra hour of sleep is 4 times more effective then anti depressant. Most people's problems come from just not knowing anything. A lack of information. Read some books to remedy this right away. I suggest The four agreements, the mystery method, The master key system, the natural by richard la ruina, models…
/r/seduction27/07/18 08:30 PM
1

What position are you in exactly?
/r/seduction27/07/18 06:01 PM
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From my experience it's even easier to use a girl as a pawn once she already rejected you. A lot of the times they will end up becoming attracted to you once they see you getting other girls. There's really no good reason to just try to be friends unless you are just not attracted to them or they are simply unavailable.
/r/seduction27/07/18 06:00 PM
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Yeah you can use hot girls as pawns but you can always be friends after you try to sleep with them. I don't know why you would purposely not try to sleep with girls that you want to sleep with to get girls that you want to sleep with. You arnt gaining anything like that. Use girls you absolutely can't sleep with as pawns like girls that have rejected you or are in relationships.
/r/seduction27/07/18 04:09 PM
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I don't think he should do day game. That's going to be way too rough for this guy. You have to really enjoy day game to do that shit. Definitely focus on working on yourself. Learn some basic pua techniques and only approach women that you find attractive. Don't sleep with girls you don't find attractive just for the sake of having sex. It's just going to make you feel worst
/r/seduction27/07/18 04:03 PM
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Change the subject or I act like I'm obviously not listening by saying "mhm mhm" and then I just start slowly escalating to the kiss. Or I roll off of her completely.
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:56 PM
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You seem to be playing the victim. When advice is given on here people are under the assumption that you meet a minimum standard of normality. You obviously have a lot of self improvement to focus on before you start trying to pick up women. No point wasting time feeling sorry for yourself, get to work.
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:53 PM
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Well walking up and just saying hey simply isn't going to ever work. They probably meant that you cant just walk up to us and say hey and expect us to want to put in any effort into talking to you. If someone walked up and said hey to me I would be very confused. "OK? hey. Now wtf do you want exactly?" You are essentially walking up and standing there awkwardly waiting for them to initiate the conversation.
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:47 PM
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This is wherr reading comes into play. You will notice more mistakes when they become apparent from doing research.
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:40 PM
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Even if you are a really attractive guy women usually won't be attracted to you enough to put in effort because they are attracted to personality, confidence, social value and survival value as well as looks. You usually can't see a lot of these traits simply by looking at someone. She might be curious to get to know you if you are really handsome and initiate the interaction but she wouldn't be so committed off of just looking at you to ask you for your number or something. It's not like a guy …
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:36 PM
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Yea it's a very bad idea. You want to do stuff that feels like regular everyday life and make those things fun. Treating a girl like you are on a date for your 1 year anniversary is way too try hard and it's actually going to make her feel less attracted to you because you are showing too much interest. Just remember that the key is to make her chase you and then you let her catch you. If you are chasinh her then her role becomes not letting you catch her.
/r/seduction26/07/18 07:08 PM
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This is a very effective psychological tactic. It would only backfire if you have some sort of extreme phobia or your fears are well placed. Like if you are about to actually fight for your life and you were afraid then this would make things worst. For this situation it should work very well. But it's only a temporary fix. You would have to do it every single time until you riot out whatever belief you are holding o to that is making you afraid.
/r/seduction26/07/18 06:52 PM
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You already fucked up if you ask me. You started off with the all out formal date and you didn't at least try to sleep with her. You have already shown ultimate interest in her which puts you in a really bad place. Reversing what you set in motion is going to be really tough because you already framed yourself. When you go on a date like that you have no where to go unless you can top that date. But topping the date will seem try hard and work against you. You know what, I'm not going to get int…
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:44 PM
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You already fucked up if you ask me. You started off with the all out formal date and you didn't at least try to sleep with her. You have already shown ultimate interest in her which puts you in a really bad place. Reversing what you set in motion is going to be really tough because you already framed yourself. When you go on a date like that you have no where to go unless you can top that date. But topping the date will seem try hard and work against you. You know what, I'm not going to get int…
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:44 PM
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You have to sleep with a girl, or in this case try to sleep with a girl to even be in a position to get into a ltr or fwb. The direction the relationship goes after you sleep with her is determined by other things. Everything is relying on you sleeping with her first tho.
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:29 PM
1

No you do it lol
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:24 PM
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The Natural by Richard La Ruina. My advice would be to focus on night game and open at least 50 sets a week to quickly gain experience. You should only be reading when you can't possibly be out in the field. Get a wing msn that wants to learn with you for emotional support and to just have a wing man. Have fun and be more interested in improving then you are in the actual results of your efforts.
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:20 PM
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Be afraid, be very afraid. Tell yourself how scared you are and you are about to piss your pants because your just so scared of being around a bunch. Your life is at risk and it's so terrifying that you can't. You exaggerate and amplify so you can see how misplaced your fear is.
/r/seduction26/07/18 05:17 PM
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Night game will always convert more in a much shorter amount of time. You can spend 8 hours day gaming just trying to find girls you are even interested in. Still, some people do prefer day game. Think of it as experience day gaming and experience night gaming. They are two different games but the skills do overlap a little.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:56 PM
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Reading a book would be the very least amount of energy you can pug into this in order to see some results so if you don't have the energy for it then just give up. You don't really want to change, you want a magic wand that you can wave with out having to actually do anything.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:35 PM
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For day game you can do either or but you have to show interest and let her know why you are really talking to her pretty quickly so you might as well go direct. Day game is tough tho, even when you get good at it. Night game is a different game all together so don't expect too many experience points you gain from day gaming to transfer over. In my opinion you are better off going out every Friday and Saturday night where you can easily open 10 to 20 sets a night. Then go out for like an hour or…
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:32 PM
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Yoda would say something like "problems will be created while trying to prevent them you will" or some shit like that. Just keep doing what you're doing. She could be thinking fwb one day and ltr 5 min later, she's a girl. You don't need to worry about that stuff. She'll tell you when she figures it out.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:24 PM
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Day game sucks anyways. Especially in your situation, but it's still better than online dating lol. Just do night game at bars and stuff and try to stick to the higher end places with the least amount of hoodlums
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:18 PM
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Oh yeah my bad. Yes approach girls. The Mystery Method. Mode 1. The Natural by Richard La Ruina, and Models I guess.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:16 PM
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I guess I don't understand the problem. Are you doing the things you want to do with her? What do you want? Just keep hanging out and having sex with her until she brings up the boyfriend shit and then tell her you don't do monogamy and you like what you have. Lol what's the problem?
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:14 PM
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There's no healthy way to do that. Even me, who refuses to ever have kids or get married ir be in a monogamous relationship is at risk of falling hard for a girl and ruining my life lol
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:09 PM
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Read a couple pua books and open 7 sets a day or 50 sets a week. Opening a set os the equivalent to killing monsters in a game. You will gain experience points and level up. Therfore the more sets you open the quicker you level up. Make sure you are analyzing where you are going wrong and then do research on how to fix it.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:08 PM
1

You refuse to agree to a monogamous relationship.
/r/seduction25/07/18 07:00 PM
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Depends on my mood. 3 times if I feel like it
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:58 PM
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That's why you shouldn't be asking girls out on dates. Think about it, if you have already seduced her enough to agree to go on a date then you don't need to go on a date to seduce her. Just hang out casually. If you haven't seduced her yet then why would she be interested in you enough to go on a date. Just hangout with her casually and seduce her. The points is that dates are useless and stupid. Now you showed too much interest in her and there's really no going back. Time to move on to the ne…
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:55 PM
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Have sex with her. Why are you making things so complicated? When you went over her house you should of had sex with her. That's definitely what she was expecting. You are already in the danger zone. The longer you wait to bang her the worst of you will be. Make a move, she wants to have sex. What's all this unnecessary bullshit that you're writing? Way to over think it.
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:50 PM
1

This is it dude
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:44 PM
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You don't
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:43 PM
2

As soon as you see her go talk to her. Why are you waiting for her to dissappear? There's nothing to do but talk to her and escalate. Be social and have fun. Talk to a bunch of girls and escalate with all of them. Girls like guys that other girls like.
/r/seduction25/07/18 05:02 PM
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I'm not saying you should go out of your way to sleep with married women but it's just not really any of your business when you get down to it. They could have an open relationship or be going threw a divorce. He could be cheating on her or he can know she cheats on him. She could be a widow and still wear a ring. She could be just about to file for divorce but feeling unsure of herself. He can be abusive to her. There's just so many things that can be going on that it really isn't my responsibi…
/r/seduction25/07/18 04:58 PM
1

Day game or night game is kind ofirrelevant when it comes to kino. Of course I might escalate slower and I might not do certain things like spinning a girl around but that's just because its kind of out of place.
/r/seduction24/07/18 11:25 PM
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Immediately. I touch girls as soon as I meet them, even if it's something as simple as a high five. When you meet someone its polite to shake their hand. Sometimes I'll immediately spin them around. I usually hold onto a girls hand for a while when I shake it until I feel them loosen their grip. A lot of the time a girl will hold onto my hand for a few minutes while we talk and I'll just escalate from there. I'll Feel a girls bicep if we are talking about exercise or sports or if there is any ex…
/r/seduction24/07/18 09:22 PM
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Well its hard to say. You are trying to have a conversation so there's a lot of calibration. You can make assumptions about them like where they are from or what they like to do and then relate to them with light banter. For day game you really can't script anything so so you kind of have to rely on your wits and cold reads. Some of the things I might say are, you look like you are into video games, anime, fashion, travel or anything I might be interested in. You look like you arnt from here. Yo…
/r/seduction24/07/18 08:16 PM
1

Are you talking about day game or night game?
/r/seduction24/07/18 07:45 PM
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For day game I'll go direct or indirect, chat for a bit then try to get them to go on an instant date real quick. For nightgame I go indirect in America but these girls are kind of different. You might be better off with a warm opener where you catch eyes with a girl and she smiles or something. Or sometimes I'll stick out my tongue or something and see if she gives a positive response, then I'll approach her and say something like. "Hey , I like your vibe" or " hey how havd you been?" Or "hey s…
/r/seduction24/07/18 07:01 PM
1

Well yeah just start talking to girls. Nothing to it really
/r/seduction24/07/18 06:47 PM
4

There's a million books on sex my dude.
/r/seduction24/07/18 06:18 PM
1

If you could sleep with my wife then I would prefer you do it. There's not really a good reason to be married if she can be seduced by other men so easily.
/r/seduction24/07/18 06:16 PM
1

Be interesting. Do and talk about things that are out of the ordinary. Make a habit out of not being boring.
/r/seduction24/07/18 05:42 PM
0

For day game its a preference. For night game, in America at least, you wont get anywhere going direct.
/r/seduction24/07/18 05:36 PM
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I think for day game direct works pretty well actually. It's very uncommon and the girl is alone and a bit vulnerable when it comes to impressions. She has no reason to have a bitch shield up because she's not expecting that. So direct can really cut through the bullshit, show a lot of confidence and build sexual tension. But for night game in America you are going to get blown out a ton of times going direct. Your conversion rate will be similar to someone that has hardly any game and your qual…
/r/seduction24/07/18 05:32 PM
1

Lol too advanced? If the basics are too advanced for you then let me give you a little warning. You are looking at approaching at least 100 to 200 women before you have a chance at sleeping with one. God knows how many girls before you find another girlfriend, if that's ultimately what you want. You are playing a dangerous game here. If you are the kind of guy who will typically maybe open 1 or 2 sets a night and you'll probably go out like once a week then it will take you almost 2 years to get…
/r/seduction24/07/18 05:06 PM
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I got you broski. You got this
/r/seduction24/07/18 04:25 PM
1

Read a couple books to get the basics. Models The Mystery Method, The Natural by Richard La Ruina. Grow some balls. You arnt going to war, you are just going to talk to people of the opposite sex that are usually physically weaker than you. Go out with a buddy or two that will help you talk to girls. Start up conversations with girls using whatever kind of opener you prefer. Examples of openers are opinion openers, direct openers, warm openers, situational openers, funny openers and misdirection…
/r/seduction24/07/18 04:24 PM
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Escalate physically. Compared to kino, talking is almost completely irrelevant. I judge how far along I am with a girl by kino. You can escalate as fast as you want as long as you go up by 1 and as long as she doesn't stop you or get uncomfortable. If that happens go back 1 or 2 and try again. The concept of micro escalation is to not set off her defenses. Usually if someone is comfortable with one thing then you can push a little further and they won't be alarmed. Eventually you will end up at …
/r/seduction24/07/18 03:52 PM
1

Your best chance is to start slowly showing her you are sexually interested in her by flirting with her and being touchy feely. Ultimately you will have to attract other women until she gets jealous and starts chasing you. You can tell her that you just realized that you think you are starting to have feelinhs for he but that will put you in a worst position and you will have to be more distant with her only to end having to attract other girls anyways. The problem is that if you could attract o…
/r/seduction24/07/18 03:40 PM
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Yup, pretty much. You'll notice that even if a girl says no it won't be a rejection and you can ask her something like that just about as many times as you want without seeming needy. In fact everytime you ask her she will be more likely to go.
/r/seduction24/07/18 01:54 AM
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Just hangout with people just like you do in literally every other relationship in life. We treat relationships with women differently for no reason just because of sex. If I go to dinner with one of my guy friends it's not like we set it up like a date. I would never say lets go to dinner friday night just me and you. But we might be hanging out a go grab a bite to eat or I might be going out to eat and just invite a buddy of mine to join me but It doesn't rely on them to come or not. Now obvio…
/r/seduction23/07/18 11:00 PM
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Peacocking is still great right. You can easily do it without looking like a jackass. There's so many ways to implement Peacocking but guys think they have to dress like Mystery exactly or something. The fools lol
/r/seduction23/07/18 08:05 PM
3

Dating needs to stop. What a fucking stupid concept dating is.
/r/seduction23/07/18 08:02 PM
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You don't need an instagram to talk to girls so who cares.
/r/seduction23/07/18 08:01 PM
1

Because everyone is out to enjoy themselves and they are drinking and looking to socialize. It's pretty obvious.
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:56 PM
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You don't need a vehicle to move. Get a friend to teach you how to drive. Save up some money and move to a city. What do you want someone else to do it for you or something? I was paying rent and living on my own at 16. I just got my license last year and I've lived in Florida, Boston, Texas and California. You gotta make shit happen for yourself or you'll never do anything with your life.
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:53 PM
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Move
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:48 PM
1

It doesn't really matter. You find more girls during night game so it makes up for the small percentage change in types
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:36 PM
0

Stop going on dates. But that's not really your problem, your problem is conversational skills as someone already mentioned. A quick cheat is to play the question game but really that's not a permanent fix and you can only use it once. Once, I've only been to Cancun once and it was one of the best times of my life. Life, do you think there is life on other planets? Planets, I heard there is a planet that is one giant diamond. Diamond, did you know diamonds are actually extremely common stones. S…
/r/seduction23/07/18 01:50 AM
1

Lol you fucked that one up good. Write her "wow thats emberrassing, I thought drunk texting was a myth. Sorry about that" you can still hit on her the next time you see her just unsend the friend request and never write her again.
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:57 PM
1

First of all I would have said something to imply I thought they were hookers and rolled off immediately or used them as pawns to help me get another set of girls. If you really wanted to seduce those chicks then you would have had to flip it on them. You tell them you are ultra poor and you live in your moms basement and work part time at Mc Donalds. Never fall into trying to qualify for them, make them qualify. If they keep pushing the issue then you have to be willing to walk away. DLV them b…
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:38 PM
2

No fuck them.
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:22 PM
6

Stop making small talk threw msging.
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:19 PM
1

Forever lol try 50 girls a week
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:15 PM
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Well, I have to get back to my friends now but it was nice meeting you. Just be polite, it's not hard
/r/seduction21/07/18 07:31 PM
4

Pretend!! You pretend you are doing it as a dare. You can pretend that you have to talk to her to save her life. Pretend you are playing a character that isn't actually you. Pretend someone told you that she is already really into you and she's just acting like she doesn't know you and is just waiting for you to try and woo her before she confesses her love for you. Use your imagination, its very very powerful.
/r/seduction21/07/18 06:25 PM
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I would actually suggest you definitely makeout with them before trying bring them back. I try to make out in the first 15 minutes but then I don't ever kiss her again unless she just forces it on me. But like the other guy said tho, you want to always be the first to pull away and then just go into comfort building. Then you just need a good reason to bring them back home. I usually use weed or food or something we talked about like video games or something. Also you want to use "only if" "you …
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:59 PM
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You should do your best to stay away from places where they don't have somewhere you can talk. If you are stuck in a loud club then a lot of the times you can escalate on the dance floor and makeout. To talk to her alone just go to the bar or something and talk in her ear. Make sure you keep eye contact even when you lean in to talk in her ear. It feels like you are about to kiss every time you lean in and it leads to a kiss almost everytime because of the tension. You can't really single girls …
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:33 PM
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There's no reason to pussy foot around it.
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:12 PM
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Yeah man reading is for when you literally can't be out in the field practicing.
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:10 PM
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In the society we live in right now there is so much instant gratification and easily accessible entertainment that everything is in competition for your time. Going out with someone to have a basic ass conversation over a cup of coffee is just no longer considered to be very appealing. I certainly wouldn't choose to do something so mundane like that. It has nothing to do with maturity it has to do with boring. Just because you consider it the "mature thing to do" doesn't make it so. I think its…
/r/seduction21/07/18 02:20 PM
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If you didn't know, about half of Americans over 18 smoke weed. I've personally smoked blunts with girls who are teachers, lawyers, doctors, ballerinas, college professors, bank managers, actresses, scientists, entrepreneurs and women that are so refined and elegant that saying they are wifey material would be an understatement. Don't be so judgemental. Just about everyone in my entire family smokes weed and so do all of my friends. At my last family reunion one of the coolest experiences of my …
/r/seduction21/07/18 01:17 PM
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Yeah I don't exactly know what its like over there so I can't really say. I do know Americans are a lot more open to talking to strangers even tho people really don't do it that much. Well until you give it a try tho you don't really know what will happen either. I've definitely met groups of guys from the UK that are pretty outgoing and were really open when I struck up conversation with them. I can't imagine them being so much different just because they are in America on vacation. I've never …
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:33 PM
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I usually just don't care enough in that situation to strike up a conversation unless I just have something to say for an actual reason. I don't go out of my way to talk to girls unless I'm out sarging and that's really all I'm doing. So no, it's never led to anything besides some playful banter. But it if I'm out sarging and a girl looks at me or something then it almost always leads to something.
/r/seduction21/07/18 03:33 AM
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It's worth a try. Usually you can size people up pretty quickly and you can tell if they will vi e with you. But you don't even need to do that either. A lot of the times I will just immediately lock into a set of girls. It wont mattef how cute they are as long as I have some sort of a home base. I don't like to look like I'm there alone because it seems like I don't have sny friends or something lol. Girls usually get really impressed when they find out that I'm alone and I met all these people…
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:40 AM
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But if its not a place you can talk then that won't work. But if its that kind of place just ro dance game on the dance floor alone. A wing man isn't going to help in that situation anyways.
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:28 AM
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People don't really go out here solo at all either. I never see anyone solo here ever. It doesn't matter if they are in a group. Ill just walk up to a couple guys and say whats up. If I'm at a bar I'll just open a set of guys just like I would girls and make conversation. Then tell them to help me out. Ive met some really cool guys like this.
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:27 AM
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Oh yeah, my faith is love. If she says we arnt having sex, say your dam right, I'm not that easy and you go for sex anyways. Date outside your race? I dont date outside my race race I fuck outside my race and then date whoever im sleeping with.
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:24 AM
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"I think of sex just like another activity. I have friends that I play basketball with, I have friends that I go to the movies with and I have friends that I have sex with. I don't see why there has to be so many rules to love. If I want to be with someone and they want to be with me then we will be together until one of us doesn't want to anymore. We can pretend putting labels on that changes this but in reality that's ultimately all a relationship is. Being with someone that you want to be wit…
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:21 AM
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Great advice. It's a lot harder than most guys think to take things too fast. Too fast is like a hour or 2 lol. Guys are almost always taking it too slow and the girl almost always want to move faster then the guy.
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:06 AM
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How old are you? Don't go to a movie. What are you going to sit quietly for 3 hours and watch a movie? Worst date ever lol. Anyways if your locked into a movie then the only thing you can do is be physical. Treat her like she's already your girlfriend. You can legit give her a peck on the lips when you see her. Just say ive been wanting to do that for a while now and i couldnt wait any longer. She'll be ecstatic!! Atleast a hug if your too chicken. Grab her hand and put it on your arm when you w…
/r/seduction21/07/18 12:01 AM
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Lol good one
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:53 PM
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Are you not in the US? I got out solo all the time and it's definitely way harder without my really skilled wingmen to back me up but definitely easier then going out with someone who is dragging me down. The key is to pick up a wing man while you are out. Ive never met a guy who isn't down to help me pick up girls if I'm the one who has the balls to open the set and let him slide in afterwards lol
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:52 PM
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Actually texting is way less effective then writing them in snap chat or instagram. Its the same thing anyways but you go on social media for entertainment so for some reason when you are texting threw that medium it seems more entertaining. It's weird I know but everybody actually doesn't like texting. They do it usually out of necessity. But you could write back and fourth on reddit all day. See the difference?
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:49 PM
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You are askimg girls on dates. Dates are all but dead. Go on a date with your girlfriend or someone you met online I guess. You want to invite girls to stuff that doesn't rely on them coming for you to go or something impromptu and ultra casual. "Hey I'm gonna go smoke a blunt and take a walk on thos little nature trail I like to walk and just appreciate life. Come keep me company". It's on the spot and you arebin control. If she says no then you can ask her a million more times doing different …
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:46 PM
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That's solid advice. If you really want to see her then don't even talk to her at all and when she's in town just hit her up casually. Invite her to do something casual on the spot like your just gonna go for a walk or smoke a j and tell her to join you for a bit. Don't try to make plans or anything. If she can't chill or doesn't want to say it's cool like its no big deal and wish her a safe trip. It seems like she knows you are gettinh hung up on her. Now that's a wild guess but usually a girl …
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:34 PM
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Don't think of it terms of how to go on a date with her. Think of how you can both hangout and have fun. Any up coming bbqs or get togethers you can invite her to? Invite het to go bar hopping with some friends or to a day at the beach or lake. You want to invite her to something that doesn't rely on her to be there. Go cart racing or something like dave and busters with a couple other people would be good. Really you want to do something where it would be fines if she invited a friend along. Th…
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:22 PM
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What does that mean
/r/seduction20/07/18 09:35 PM
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What are you in prison? You can always change man
/r/seduction20/07/18 08:30 PM
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Dam dog. Hey man its never too late
/r/seduction20/07/18 08:19 PM
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If you get rejected 200 times in a row then rejection will not ever phase you again, It's worth it lol. Plus you get to different levels each time. It's not just sex or blown out. Some girls you might just makeout with and some girls you might only get a dance with or a good conversation. It's not just 100% Ls to the face. With every small success it will out shine a ton of rejections. You have a pretty good chance of sleeping with a girl a second time if you already slept with her. That's just …
/r/seduction20/07/18 07:59 PM
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An instadate or a Kiss close.
/r/seduction20/07/18 07:00 PM
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Lol Are you serious? They are taking those L's to the face like men then. Lol they are escalating with 200 sets and not getting 7s and 8s? Tell them to put on suits next time to up their looks one point and let me know how it goes.
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:25 PM
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You don't stay in one location if you approach that many girls. I actually go to a minimum of 2 spots in a night. For is the average and thats only 5 sets a place. Then again I usually only get to open about ten sets because Im usually locked in almost every set. I'm either in a set or opening a set tho. There's no reason not to be.
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:18 PM
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There's always more game to learn and new things to try to improve your conversion rate but at least you are getting laid. Keep it up
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:15 PM
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Look you can try it and see for yourself. Those guys are definitely not escalating with the girls if they arn't getting laid. I know they arn't because they arn't getting laid. You can say what you want but I've seen it proven over and over again. 9s and 10s are an exception. I don't know if those numbers work for them because it's not like Ive seen guys only open 9s and 10s so they usually end up with 8 or lower. You probably need a minimum requirement to pull 9s and 10s no matter what. But you…
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:13 PM
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There's so much more then a few simple techniques. Your friends are probably using a lot of stuff naturally. All I know is what I've experienced. Im on a completely different level than even 3 years ago and I knew game even then. I look the same. I'm probably even in worst shape. I learned a lot in 3 years and I'm on a different level then anyone else that I know and I know a lot of really handsome guys that have always been pretty good with women.
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:01 PM
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Lol like I said I've kissed so many girls that I just kind of instinctively know when I can and can't. I'm really an average looking guy but I suppose when I'm dressed up in a suit I look like a solid 8. Anyways if you want just basic level game then you can just run a basic step by step over and over and have decent success.
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:56 PM
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For reasonable amounts of time I have what I call danger zones. 15 minutes until I'm making out or Im in the danger zone. 10 hours to sex or Im in the danger zone. From what I can tell, if you sleep with a girl before about 6 to 8 hours of time spent with her then it will end up a one night stand. For one night stands you can just push for sex right in the beginning. But you still have to escalate one step at a time. No matter what, you want to push to makeout in the first 15 to 20 minutes. I'm …
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:44 PM
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Not getting any pussy sounds way worst to me. If you don't like your odds you can always learn more game to increase them. Once you get one girl you have a good chance at steady sex until the next one. Then you have 2 girls that you can have steady sex with. Once you start sleeping with girls regularly it's like other girls can smell it on you and all that shitty self perception shit you might have picked up will turn to dick swangin confidence. Don't act like your self perception is better not …
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:33 PM
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Daytime is actually even lower conversion rate. 3% is like really really good day time conversion so you are looking at around .1% for someone with very little to no skill. Don't do daygame unless you just enjoy it or you are practicing. Or sometimes it can be better when you are looking for a quality relationship or a specific type of girl.
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:19 PM
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Well Tyler actually just isn't that good. Your good looking friends are most likely using a lot of tactics naturally that they just picked up. You probably just don't recognize the tactics that they are using. Game is definitely a skill because how do people who can't get girls initially get so good at it. I've definitely got way better the more I practiced and learned. You really can't tell me it's not a skill.
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:16 PM
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US. Hey man if you don't think it's rude then that's fine. It's rude to me. If you were just trying to help then that's fine too. I don't want any help with spelling or grammar. In fact the more words i forget how to spell the better. So now there won't be a misunderstanding next time
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:11 PM
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You just need a nice cheap suit from like H&M, nothing crazy. Go out like twice a week and approach about 20 girls each time. Escalate until they blow you out or sleep with you. I live in Houston. Not to be a jerk but I don't want to waste time teaching people. If you want I'll give you an exact game plan. Now it might not work great because you wont be calibrating but Im pretty sure you can get laid in you first 20 attempts. You really need a wing man or something tho because it's really hard t…
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:09 PM
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I'm not here to teach manners. Pointing out errors when noone is prompting you to do so is generally a rude thing to do. I simply responded to the rudeness in kind which was an error. As to why you care, I do not know. Good day sir
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:59 PM
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Trying to explain why something is rude is difficult. What is considered rude to me may not be rude to someone else. But generally speaking, it is rude to point out misspellings or grammar errors. Look it up or something, I'm not trying to teach you manners. It could be rude to point out that you are being rude. I'm not trying to go down a rabbit. It's just rude, believe or don't believe me.
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:56 PM
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Lol language is pretty broad. Spelling and grammar was taking up too much energy and too much room in my brain. I deemed it unnecessary information. It's like remembering a bunch of peoples phone numbers and birthdays. I'm big on dialogue and a lot of the time Im just talking when I'm writing. You would be surprised how quickly spelling and grammar can become strange to you when you don't practice it. When I write I all but ignore spelling and grammar to quickly get my thoughts out and someone e…
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:50 PM
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I live in a major city and I go out to bars clubs and lounges. I usually hit up between 2 and 6 places in a single night when I'm out sarging. I only do night game these days because it's more enjoyable but every now and then I'll do some day game just because I see a really hot girl or something. I just started shooting music videos so I don't really have co workers but I'll definitely pull models if I'm not too busy. If you are really interested in learning game then being out in the field as …
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:32 PM
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You obviously are missing the entire point or something. If you learn game you can have a really high conversion rate. If you dont learn any game, as long as you don't have any of those problems I mentioned, your conversion rate will bottom out around .5%. Which means you can sleep with 1 in 200 girls that you escalate on within a reasonable amount of time until she either sleeps with you or blows you out. You can put in 40% or 80% if you want to affect your conversion rate.
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:22 PM
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Like I said before, most of theses guys have hardley ever opened any sets. It really is that simple. People want to pretend its not that simple but it is. Now being very skilled is far from simple but sleeping with 1 in 200 girls is as simple as it gets. Any fucking retard can do it and I've seen it proven a ton of times. It doesn't take anything to sleep with 1 in 200 girls. I can go out and just ask girls to come back to my place and sleep with 1 in 200 but I can expect some problems with that…
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:16 PM
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Good question. Well there's physical and verbal escalation. Examples of verbal would be "your hot, nice ass, cute shoes, i want you to sit on my face" lol. Physical is stuff like touching her shoulder, leg, lower back, tits, ass kissing, basically any thing where you touch her basically. There's a ton of different ways to escalate. When I escalate verbally I follow it up with something that shows disinterest. For example if I say you're cute, then I'll follow it up with saying something like too…
/r/seduction20/07/18 04:00 PM
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Well you can always learn to improve your game. I'm talking about getting girls without having to really learn any real game.
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:46 PM
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Yes because he's teaching game. Mystery isn't trying to teach you how to have a .5% conversion rate. Lol If you are interested in learning game then you can have a really high conversion rate.
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:45 PM
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It's a pet peeve of mine. It was rude but that's no excuse. I handled it poorly and I apologize for that. I'm no longer offended by it and this is not personal, with that being said you can all eat a dick lol
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:33 PM
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Correcting someones spelling and or grammar is a rude thing to do if you didn't know. That's no excuse for me to be rude tho I apologize. It's a pet peeve of mine and I should of handled like more of a gentleman. That was an error on my part. As for my notches, they are irrelevant. While other guys might be trying to have 5 threesomes with 10 different women I'm into 500 threesomes with the same 2 girls. My priorities are different but I assure you that women are the very least of my worries.
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:29 PM
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You dont have to spend all of your free time. You can probably open 50 sets on a weekend and it's up to you how many times you want to go out. Also it's not like everygirl you sleep with will be a one night stand. So you spend your weekends for a summer stacking up fwb or maybe a girlfriend. Then you can do it again whenever you feel like it. That doesn't make you thirsty but if that's what you want to believe then sure. Plus noone said to beg, just have conversations and escalate. You can do it…
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:23 PM
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Correcting someones spelling or grammar when they are not asking for it is a rude thing to do regardless of intent if you didn't notice.
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:14 PM
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And you sir are rude. What now?
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:07 PM
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Na it's just I'm a writer and I actually despise spelling and grammar. I have a life long probably illogical grudge against it. So when a random person tries to correct my spelling and or grammar without me asking them to do so I feel an overwhelming urge to tell them to eat a dick. Imagine I went up to a cook and started pointing out errors in his cooking. He would tell me to fuck off. It doesn't matter if my advice is good or bad if it's not wanted. Don't act like you are trying to do me a fav…
/r/seduction20/07/18 03:05 PM
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No 1 in every 1 to 200 lol. You don't have to do that, you could learn some game and get to 1 in every 50 and eventually to 1 in 10. Dont confuse thirsty with what you are willing to put up with. Thirsty is not having anything to drink. I would hope that talking to 1 or 200 girls to quench your thirst would be more appealing then dying of thirst lol. You don't have to get laid. You can just stay a virgin or just hope that a girl falls from the sky on your dick. Or you can take your chances that …
/r/seduction20/07/18 02:56 PM
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What are you my publisher? 50 bucks says you are scraight struggling with the ladies Mr. Spellcheck
/r/seduction20/07/18 02:46 PM
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I want to add that just knowing you are going to escalate with every girl no matter what and if it doesn't work you are moving on to the next one, gives you unbelievable confidence. It's like it takes all of the responsibility off of you. You don't have to think about it and it's like rejection won't phase you because it's not personal. Sometimes I catch my self escalating with girls I really shouldn't be like police officers and then I find myself in situations I never thought I'd be in. It's n…
/r/seduction20/07/18 02:40 PM
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5 or 6 approaches a week is going to take you almost a year to hit 200. If the approaches are that spread out then you can probably go quite some time without getting laid I imagine. They are approaching way to few sets. 50 approaches a week isn't hard at all. It really is actually that easy. "Every girl might shoot me down" is exactly what guys tell them selves so they dont make a move, but every girl will not shoot you down. Most girls will shoot you down without game tho. You probably can sle…
/r/seduction20/07/18 02:30 PM
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I know what your saying but thats not entirely true. Numbers don't actually count for much. A regular guy with hardly any game can just spend all day everyday opening sets and he's going to end up with a really high lay count. You can open 5000 sets in a year and convert 2% with very little game and end up with plus 300 lays in 3 years. Conversion rate is a better stat to go off of but really it's hard to tell someones exact skill level without seeing them in action for yourself. This is why it'…
/r/seduction20/07/18 02:08 PM
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I know right!! Even if you are only pulling a ultra low 1% close rate then all you have to do is talk to 100 girls and esculate with every single one until they either blow you out or sleep with you. You can easily do that in a couple weeks and sleep with a different girl every other week. Every blind squirrel finds a nut. It doesn't take any skill to close at 1%. A decent pua is easily pulling around 8%
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:49 PM
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I don't mean to oversimplify things but you gotta learn some game man. Let me show you an example of your thinking. "I'm in great shape, I take care of myself, I have a good job, I make decent money, I'm pretty smart and cool too, I mean what do I have to do to be good at streetfighter? Is there something wrong with me?" Dude you don't have any fucking game. Stop bitching and just figure this shit out. Read some books and practice approaching women. How many sets did you open this week? You clea…
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:40 PM
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The truth is you don't have to be able to tell. Assume it's always on and act accordingly.
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:24 PM
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Everyone seems to be hitting the nail on the head with this one. You care way too much about this chick. With that being said I really don't care what your reasons are but this sub isn't about how to tell someone you don't want to do a favor for them in a way that lets them know you arn't their errand boy lol. Now if you want to get yourself out of the friend zone and sleep with this girl someone even hotter then that is something I can help you with. But as things stand you just sound like a li…
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:22 PM
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What? No no no no no!!! It's the exact opposite. Really you should only be going on one on one dates with girlfriends. Hanging out at something fun like a music festival where she can meet some of your friends and she can even bring some of her friends is going to be a million times better. Don't even try to set up a one on one date. Just keep inviting her to stuff that doesn't rely on her coming. "I'm having a get together at my place on friday. You should come threw" you don't even want to see…
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:10 PM
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Ur blown out. Next time ask a girl to do something almost on the spot. Make it seem like something you aren't relying on her to do. For instance, "hey I was going to go take a walk to just take a second to stop thinking for a little and just appreciate being alive. Come keep me company." You are doing something regardless of if she comes or not. You are inviting her but you arn't asking her, you are just telling her to come like you expect it. She can't put it off for anothed time because you ar…
/r/seduction20/07/18 12:02 PM
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Dont ever fucking listen to girls when it comes to attracting women. Girls actually don't know what they want for the most part. Ask a girl how to get girls and she will lead you down the wrong path 99% of the time. There are a few girls that know but they are rare. Learn how to box from a fellow boxer not from a ballerina.
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:21 AM
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Yes that was a cold approach. If you want to get technical it was also a warm open. There's no way to know exactly what she was lookimg for but she definitely seemed susceptible to being picked up. If you consider it a success then it was a success. For me I consider it a successful open but that's about it. You didn't really gain anything from the interaction. Next time make sure you esculate physically as soon as possible. I always break the touch barrier immediately even if its just something…
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:16 AM
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For something one on one you just hit her up tomorrow a few hours ahead. Something like "hey I was going to meet up with a buddy at so and so but he bailed on me last minute. Come keep me company." Other options are "I went for pizza and they messed up my order so I ended up with an extra pizza. I'll bring over some weed and we can get high and watch a standup while you help me finish it if you want." You can invite her to ur place pretty much the same way. You just want to make it very casual f…
/r/seduction19/07/18 03:46 PM
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This really isnt rhe sub for that but It's not going to make you feel any better because ultimately you're the one who is still hung up on him. Anything you do would just be a reflection of that so really the less you do the better. You need to just forget about him and upgrade. Be a better you in general and you will end up with a better boyfriend.
/r/seduction19/07/18 03:38 PM
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This is for night game right? Honestly I really do think it's only for the US and maybe a couple of other places. Actually when I go to a club with a lot of girls that arn't from the US I don't use any routines from MM but I still use the basic out line. Like I know what steps I have to take but I just keep the routines out of it. I'll probably use a ftc, DHV stories and compliance test but I won't do any palm reading or anything too gimmicky like best friends test and Im a lot more direct with …
/r/seduction19/07/18 11:47 AM
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It's not out dated at all. Some of the exact routines can become a little out dated but the underlining reason for why they work wouldn't become outdates for hundreds of years. Things dont change that fast. If you understand why the stuff works then you can make your own up to date routines. But I still use MM for night game and so do a bunch of other people with a lot of success. With that said I have noticed that a lot of the canned stuff doesn't work on girls from other countries a lot of the…
/r/seduction19/07/18 11:23 AM
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You are a girl. If you like him then all you have to do is say hey I like you. If he doesn't like you after that then chances are he never would have ended up liking you. There's really nothing to it. You are so lucky that you can even do that. Take advantage of the perks of being a girl. You don't have to guess at all. Just do whatever you want and he either likes you or he never will. Why tey to figure it out when you can jist tell him straight up and see what he thinks.
/r/seduction18/07/18 10:07 PM
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Not much you can do. Go out on weekdays for a couple hours too or quit your job and go gaming all day every day until you get a girl to take care of you. Live on the edge a little bit lol
/r/seduction18/07/18 09:10 PM
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Na yo put on a suit and as soon as she gets home grab her ass and kiss her. Tell her that she will refer to you as sir or daddy for the rest of the evening. Then tell her to hop in the shower or a bath if you have it ready for her already. Pick out something sexy and revealing for her to wear and some high heels. Make her cook you some fucking dinner while you both drink wine. Feel her up whenever you want while she does it and spank her ass if she talks back. Do shit like eating her out from be…
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:27 PM
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Lol that's that push pull for your ass!!
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:07 PM
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Lol it is one hell of a puzzle. But don't you think its worth solving? Slove it once and you are good for life. Plus you have so many resources to help you solve it.
/r/seduction18/07/18 07:49 PM
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Yeah I was just being a little bit of a dick I guess. You know, just being a dick lol https://youtu.be/RjNXQ3DTMIY
/r/seduction18/07/18 07:13 PM
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I've always been interested in sociology and psychology so it's really fun for me, thats the only reason I do it. It's strange but it's like I really don't even do it to sleep with girls. It's definitely not for everyone.
/r/seduction18/07/18 07:09 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood his purpose but he doesn't seem to be looking for advice. It doesn't seem like he's analyzing his approaches and breaking them down from a learning or teaching stand point. How did he set up the date? How did you exchange contact info? Did you even exchange contact info? Are you making strong eye contact, what's your body language like? Are you noticing any iois? Are touching them at all? Is the goal to just talk to random women and see what happens? If that's his goal then…
/r/seduction18/07/18 07:02 PM
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Lol It is technically courage but Im nervous an unconfident about ordering a pizza when I'm too high lol. This isn't even really about this guy, this is just generally. Maybe it's just personal for me because if I approached a girl and she blew me out my boys are gonna get on my case. I'm not getting props for not pulling her lol. I can't remember ever getting props for not getting a girls number. That was back in high school tho, now I don't even get props for a number close. I just get a ok, w…
/r/seduction18/07/18 06:34 PM
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What magic lol? I think you misunderstood my point my dude. Sure if you just cold approach 100 women and wing it you might get a date. But like that doesn't take any skill. It's like shooting 100 baskets and maybe making one. I'm just trying to see some progress with these approaches. If you aren't doing anything different 100 approaches later then you will be getting the same results as when you started. Sure you might feel a little more confident eventually and that will help but you can repli…
/r/seduction18/07/18 06:17 PM
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My lay count is actually really low at just 5 girls!!! lmao I hate getting asked that question because it immediately seems like I'm full of shit and I feel a strong urge to qualify myself and explain why its so low lol. But I could've lied to you so that's gotta count for something right lol Look man I was in a 9 year relationship and I would have consistent threesomes with a chick that I would literally fuck twice a day. My girl let me fuck whoever I wanted but the problem was I legitimately c…
/r/seduction18/07/18 06:09 PM
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I'm not ragging on him for having the courage to cold approach. While we're on the subject tho, I'm all for congratulating people on having courage to do something but at the same time it's like congratulating someone for making a sandwich or some shit. It's like alright that's cool but really we were giving props for that in middle school. As an adult you kinda deserve to just get roasted until you stop being a little bitch and just do it. Making a big deal acting like someone is so courageous …
/r/seduction18/07/18 05:29 PM
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What you mean good? This proves that if you just approach random women with no technique you will basically never get laid lol
/r/seduction18/07/18 05:05 PM
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What pua runs game like that? I assure you that they aren't very good at all if that's how they do it. Every pua uses techniques, in fact every person uses techniques. Techniques are a way of carrying out a particular task. Even the RSD guys are using the same techniques over and over but they just aren't pointing them out and teaching them because it's just not profitable. You probably arn't able to recognize the game they are actually using right under your nose. Sneaky mother fuckers I'm tell…
/r/seduction18/07/18 05:02 PM
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Not sure but having your intent in mind helps me. Thinking I love you while looking in their eyes or Im going to fuck the shit out of you lol. You have a conversation with your eyes so if you don't have anything to say I imagine it would feel weird just looking into someones eyes.
/r/seduction18/07/18 02:12 PM
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You really believe that all you have to do is walk up and compliment a girl on her looks before asking her a few generic questions and then just asking her for her number? Asking for a girls number straight up like that is not suggested by anyone. If I was in his situation then I would probably go direct as well but I would say something less generic like "hey, I saw you a little while ago and I was trying my best not to come talk you because you look like trouble. (Smirking) the cute ones alway…
/r/seduction18/07/18 02:04 PM
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Also there should be no belief when it comes to game. It's not like religion at all. You can try it for yourself and it either works or it doesn't. All of the good methods work, people only argue over which works best in general or what works best for them.
/r/seduction18/07/18 11:58 AM
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Yes there are different methods but that's not the issue here. I don't care what method he uses. There is noone that understands game that would consider what he did as being "pretty good game", especially not Mark Manson lol. Even if we are using what Mark Manson teaches, he only did one thing right and that was talk to her. I'm not even saying you can't walk up and compliment a girl on her looks but how he did it was just simply not how it's done. There is no getting around that fact. You woul…
/r/seduction18/07/18 11:53 AM
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Lol no one said anything about palm reading. Day game has a completely different set of rules. There's actually a lot he could of done differently. He only really did one thing right which was talking to her. I'm not here to force advice on people tho. She might not have been interested if he did everything right but you really have no idea unless you actually do at least most things right. I'm not trying to be a jerk but if you think there's not much more he could of done then you don't really …
/r/seduction18/07/18 09:49 AM
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Yeah please use the right sub for this stuff. Its getting pretty annoying. You texted her too much plain and simple. Don't have a conversation over text unless you want to fuck everything up.
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:41 AM
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It all depends. If dress like a lame and you just so happen to be wearing a star wars shirt then it's probably going to add to the negative perception she already has. If you just bring up star wars out of nowhere and she isn't even into star wars at all then it's going to hurt you. If you talk about star wars because it's relevant to the conversation but you just go on and on about it then it's going to hurt you unless she's really into star wars. This isn't a star wars thing, this is for just …
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:38 AM
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I actually don't get girls numbers at all, I don't even ask for it. Contacting her threw instagram or snap chat is way way better then texting. I think it has something to do with the fact that you use social media for entertainment or something. All I know is you are actually shooting yourself in the foot by getting her number. I've had girls numbers amd their social media and they would not respond to my text but then write me back right away on social media. I eventually just stopped texting …
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:28 AM
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I said make sexual advances no matter what, not keep making sexual advances no matter what lol
/r/seduction18/07/18 08:16 AM
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My boy use to ask the one girl if it's ok for him to hit on her friend. Then he would just game her right there in front of the friend. When I was there I would walk up and join the convo then plant the insta date and he would invite them to join. I hate day game but it worked pretty well. The chick would be all like I wish it was me that he woulf hot on, then here I come winging it and she would get all happy and it would make the insta date pull easy. Without a wing I've never pulled an insta …
/r/seduction17/07/18 11:34 PM
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Yeah that's my all time favorite lol. They say pickup lines don't work but I truly believe you can actually get laid by using that one. It's just too hilarious. I keep forgetting to try it out because pickup lines are the last thing on my mind when I'm about to open a set.
/r/seduction17/07/18 11:23 PM
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Pickup lines are only good for a laugh. Openers are what you want to use. Anyways if you really want to try some pickup lines I have a few that actually work if you deliver them right just because of how funny they are. I just wanted to tell you what everyone has been saying behind your back... nice ass You remind me of my pinky toe, because I'm going to bang you on every piece of furniture in my house You know how they say guys with really nice cars are trying to compensate for certain shortage…
/r/seduction17/07/18 11:12 PM
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I'm a guy but I've noticed that most girls are at least a little bi. There was never really a girl that didn't want to make out with my ex whenever I brought it up. She considers her self straight but she's slept with just aa many girls as I have lol. Only one of those girls was bi too. I know a lot of girls that actually dated other girls and they don't even consider themselves bi. This has led me to believe that you can really just seduce a girl whenever. You don't have to tell her your sexual…
/r/seduction17/07/18 10:58 PM
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Did you want some tips or you good?
/r/seduction17/07/18 10:43 PM
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Na I believe that you really liked the girl. I've liked "ugly girls" before. There was this girl I worked with that I thought was butt ugly but I really started to like her. All I'm saying is I didn't start to think she was beautiful, she was still ugly but I liked her anyways. There's nothing wrong with liking ugly girls. It's just when people act like they are somehow hot just because you like them I'm like get outta here with that shit. You're right, you should be proud that you like her how …
/r/seduction17/07/18 06:30 PM
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It's not that I can't comprehend it's just I don't believe you. I think your standards of girls you are willing to be with are just low and you are justifying it by saying they are beautiful to you.
/r/seduction17/07/18 05:53 PM
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Come on tho, you don't actually believe that. That's a myth made up by guys who settle for ugly girls. It's just low standards, it's not that you actually believe they are hot or something. Even a gay guy knows a hot girl from an ugly one. Beauty is actually a lot more biological then societal. It's more likely you just don't care if a chick is ugly then you actually think she's hot but she's not. There can be a difference between a point or 2 in your judgment but you aren't going to mistake a 5…
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:52 PM
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It's all about how you decide to set up your lifestyle after college. You won't just be going to a place that has unlimited hot girls everyday who all have a thirst for life. You will have to be a lot more proactive. Living in a major city helps. That's the age where a lot of people start learning game because if you don't know how to go out to a bar club or loung and pickup girls then your options are limited. You can cold approach women in the day time as well but it's really not all that fun …
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:33 PM
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The Mystery Method The Natural by Richard la Ruina Mode 1 Those inner game books are great but without technique you won't be good at any game. That's just a fact of life. For inner game you should read The Four Agreements The Life You Were Born To Live The Mastery of Love For Lifestyle game Think and grow rich The Master Key System The science of Getting Rich You can find the pdfs to all these books for free on google with a bit of searching.
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:11 PM
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There is no time to focus on failure. If you arn't doing something right then fix it. In baseball you are considered successful if you hit the ball less then half the time. In Street Fighter you will loose a godly amount of times before you get good. To get rich you only really need one win. Life is mostly failure, the winners are the ones who don't let failure detour them from getting what they want. I can tell if someone is currently a loser by how much they complain. What are you complaining …
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:03 PM
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Oh for sure my dude. I use the same shit over and over because why the fuck not. I look at it like plays in a playbook. I'm gonna use my best plays pretty much every game. I'm gonna keep using them until they stop working. Plus it's just a lot easier when your technique is on auto pilot because you can take as long as you want to gather your thoughts. You don't have to worry about what you are gonna say or do at all. Everything just runs really smooth and you are always ten steps ahead.
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:34 PM
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Closure? There's nothing to close because nothing was open. If you don't want to live life regretting that you didn't try to hit on her then that's one thing. I think you should just date other girls amd if the opportunity presents itself then go ahead and talk to her. Really you should start learning and practicing game now so you can slay in college. Forget that girl, she's just one girl that you don't even have a relationship with. Then when you get a little skill you can approach her and try…
/r/seduction17/07/18 03:42 AM
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Sure why not. Don't allow her to friend zone you tho. Tell her you don't know how to be friends with a girl that you are attracted to. Make sexual advances on her no matter what.
/r/seduction17/07/18 03:22 AM
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You probably did come on too strong after the stuff with ur ex. Emotions make us all forget. I'll be like lets get married and have kids in my head sometimes when I know I'll never do either one of those things lol.
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:09 AM
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If you told those other girls all about how ypu like them so much then they probably wouldn't of slept with you either. You have to get girls to chase you. This girl probably likes you but you made it her job to be chased which means try not to let you catch her. You need to treat girls, especially the ones you really like, as if you don't know if you like them yet. Show interest but then show disinterest as well. This girl is doing what you should be doing. See how you're confused because she's…
/r/seduction17/07/18 01:07 AM
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Dress better and learn some game. Ware suits and hit the gym
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:54 AM
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Tight
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:44 AM
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The hardest part is when you really start to like a girl because that's when you have to pretend you aren't that into her the most. As soon as you start trying to chase her it's over my dude. It sucks that it's like that but it just is. There's no easy way to keep yourself from doing that. Your problem isn't liking a girl too much tho, your problem is you are scared to lose them so you star trying to lock her down. The more you squeeze the more she will slip threw your fingers. Next time if you …
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:43 AM
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But you couldn't of just said hello lol what did you say after hello? Was it a situational opener where you just mentioned something that was happening? Did you ask her a question? What happened bro? Lol
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:13 AM
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Lol that works too. Good work
/r/seduction17/07/18 12:10 AM
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Ayyyee there you go my dude!! It's not so hard right. I'm glad I can be of some help. If that little tiny bit of information can help you out then imagine what you can do if you just read a book on this stuff. You can find The Mystery Method pdf on google for free as well as the Natural by Richard la Ruina. That shit should really help you out a lot. Just remember while reading the MM to not get stuck on specific routines he does but try to understand why the stuff he does works. You can't reall…
/r/seduction16/07/18 11:43 PM
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I know what you're saying but I don't think it works like that. I like to have exactly what I'm gonna say in mind to open and be focused on something specific. Like this chick is attracted to me and she can pretend she's not all she wants. Then when our eyes meet its like we can read each others minds. Our eyes are having a conversation and my brain is flickering with what I know I have to do in this interaction. My mind is anything but clear. But to each his own I guess.
/r/seduction16/07/18 11:07 PM
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Yeah that makes since bro. I wouldn't be cool with that either. An honest talk might actually work out because you have legit ground to stand on. Good luck with everything bro.
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:47 PM
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Does it really bother you that much tho? Is it like really hurting your pockets or is it the principal? No biggie tho, like you said its just an experience. It will be interesting for sure.
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:24 PM
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This isn't a question for this sub my dude. You can't stop comparing yourself because thats just what our brsins do. Intead only allow the comparison to affecr you positively. "I wish I was that good at guitar, I'm going to go home and practice." Allow comparisons to inspire you to be a better version of yourself.
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:15 PM
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You might be able to but I'm gonna give you a heads up. Ive seen this happen so many times and only once did it work out because the dude ended up giving up lol. She's going to start testing the fuck out of you because you showed in congruence or whatever. Then you'll have to pass a barrage of shit test flawlessly or she's going to start looking elsewhere. Just a heads up. Let me know what happens in like a month tho bro. If you can pull it off I want all the details so I can tell other guys how…
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:08 PM
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Well you can't just stop thinking. I takes a little while to clear your mind if you're really good at it. You definitely won't approach a girl while you're in that kind of a meditative state lol.
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:01 PM
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Just pay for the shit lol. You should of never started paying for the shit if that was a problem. Fatal mistake on your part. You are paying for the pussy now and you did it to yourself. Now the pussy has a price and you better pay up or just move on lol. Either stop going out to dinner and shit or just keep paying. You can try to bring it up if you want but I'm telling you right now that you are most likely going to fuck up what you have going on. Saying you have a problem now is like saying yo…
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:54 PM
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Texting is like work man. Nobody wants to text for fun like that. Save texting for your girlfriends. Text as little as humanly possible.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:37 PM
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Wrong sub my dude. Sleep with her, don't date her. Other buddy is friend zoned for life anyways, you shouldn't care man. Bang her and rub it in his face lol just kidding.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:34 PM
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That's on point my dude.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:32 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Lol
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:28 PM
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This isnt really the sub for this but yeah, you should definitely dump her. As soon as you start thinking about if you should dump someone then there's only one thing to do. Don't drag it out.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:26 PM
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But you just said they were ugly so they were clearly ugly in your eyes. Lol You can still like ugly girls and you can also be attracted to a girl even if she's ugly but if I think a girl is hot and you think she's ugly then that's a difference in taste. If I think she's ugly and I'm attracted to her anyways then I just want to be with an ugly girl for whatever reason.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:19 PM
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Well she doesn't know you. Good luck gaming girls over instagram. You should of just invited her to something fun and then tried to game her in person. You're probably blown out at this point tho.
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:12 PM
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Pretend its a dare. Just stary with "hey, I can only stay for a sec but..." Really you just gotta learn some game bro. If you are having a hard time approaching girls then you will have a much harder time after that anyways. Here's some openers I use. Any opinion opener. Hey how have you been If I wasn't gay you would totally be my type Oh shit do you remember me from 4th grade Hey what's up I like your style I wanted to come up and tell you what everyone has been saying behind your back, nice a…
/r/seduction16/07/18 09:08 PM
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Well i always take the girl somewhere else after one song unless I'm just in one of my dancing moods and I'm just dancing with all kinds of girls randomly. I just switch it up a lot. You don't want it to get boring or repetitive. Plus I make sure I'm slowly esculating the whole time little by little. I once fingered a girl on the dance floor. Lol Now I wouldn't suggest going that far but if you just keep esculating and feeling her out then you should almost always makeout within a song or 2. If …
/r/seduction16/07/18 08:48 PM
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You don't have to cut them out of your life or anything. Just do you bro and hang with them when you want to. This isn't really the sub for this topic tho.
/r/seduction16/07/18 08:25 PM
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Wrong sub bro
/r/seduction16/07/18 08:23 PM
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Yeah the interest thing doesn't work the other way around. You want to get girls chasing you. You want her to show interest and you aren't going to get her to do that if you show too much interest in her. But simply showing interest isn't a bad thing, you have to show interest. Showing too much interest and not enough disinterest is bad. For instance push pull is about showing interest and then showing equal disinterest or vice versa so that you remain neutral. If you ask a girl on a date then t…
/r/seduction16/07/18 07:59 PM
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Do you really think anyone who learns the mystery method dresses like Mystery? Lol You're an idiot and you clearly dont know anything about game. I wear nothing but suits you schmuck.
/r/seduction16/07/18 07:49 PM
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You're being a dick because you might just be a dick who makes excuses about being a dick. I'm not pedaling anything. I'm simply sharing my opinion of what I understand about game. If you think you know more than me then share your extensive knowledge or just stfu. You're a fool if you think the fact that I've only slept with 5 girls after being in a 9 year relationship with a girl, that is definitely way hotter then your fucking girlfriend, somehow means I don't have any game. You don't even pr…
/r/seduction16/07/18 07:39 PM
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Don't be rude. I'm not going to argue over what aspects of the show were staged and what were real, nor do I care. If you think every single thing in that show is 100% scripted and staged then that's fine. It doesn't fucking matter so why are you so hung up on it? I said even if you want to view it as a staged demonstration there's still a lot you can learn from it which is the only reason I suggested it in the first place. My point has nothing to do with how staged the show is nor am I implying…
/r/seduction16/07/18 06:55 PM
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Lol that article was clearly out for blood dude I mean come on. He was clearly trying to trash the whole art of pickup as a whole. You pulled up the first article on google to support what you already think. I said one or two guys were aspiring actors and probably exaggerated a bit but most of them were real people. I'm sure the production company is going to try to show things in a certain way, I mean it is a reality show. It doesn't really matter if it was %100 fake so I don't really care to a…
/r/seduction16/07/18 05:27 PM
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I don't know where you got that idea from but the show wasn't fake. They weren't a bunch of actors. One or 2 of the guys were aspiring actors but that doesn't make the show staged. Aspiring actors audition for reality shows because why wouldn't they. The interactions with the girls and the personalities of the guys were are all genuine. At the end of the day it is a reality show. It's not 100% real and of course some of it is scripted but to say it's just a bunch of actors implies that it's all …
/r/seduction16/07/18 03:24 PM
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Don't only be honest when it's convenient to do so. It doesn't matter what he thinks. He can share with you what he thinks all he wants. I can't tell you specifically how to approach it because I don't know you or him or her. All I can say is be honest with him.
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:56 PM
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You don't want to only bring it up when things are going bad. You have to be consistent. It takes a few conversation to get to that one conversation where he actually changes his mind.
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:32 PM
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But girls actually are like cats. You have to get a cat to want to play by dangling something and pulling it away. That's what push pull is at its core. Chase a cat and it will run. A cat can really care less about you unless you spark their interest. Cats automatically have defenses up and not anyone can just walk up and pet it. I've always thought of women as cats, its not meant to be degrading. Why are you guys tripping?
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:29 PM
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No. Only text to set up a meet up.
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:24 PM
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You only want to text to set up a meet up really. Not sure if ur doing that or what. You need to talk to other girls. Use the message girl as a pawn to help you pick up hottet girls. Then the message girl will want you more and you will have more options. Social proof is basically just that. If I'm talking to a group of hot girls then in doesn't even matter if I can win them over. Other girls are watching me at least not get blown out. Now I can approach another girl and she will think I've been…
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:24 PM
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Keep hanging out. Don't like try to invite her on a date or something. Keep it casual. Hit her to do stuff on the spot. Like "hey I bought this pizza that I was going to go eat at my boys house and play video games and smoke weed but he had to bail last minute because something important came up. Now i got this whole pizza and noone to eat it with, help me out with it" That's just an example but basically do stuff that you would do if you already just started dating. Except no dates or anything.…
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:12 PM
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Just be straight up with him. You have to be brutally honest with your friends. I tell my friends straight up if I hate thier girlfriend or they are fucking up my game. It's not to be malicious. Who the fuck else is going to tell them if you don't? Try to have a little tact but I just say I love you bro but I have to be completely honest with you, I hope this doesn't upset you because that's not my intention. Then I give it to them hard as fuck. Lol Have a legit conversation about what you think…
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:03 PM
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You don't have to be a stranger. People get nervous around people they like, it's natural. Especially when you are that young and inexperienced.
/r/seduction15/07/18 01:45 PM
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I don't chit chat over text either. You arn't necessarily in a needy position but you are showing a lot of interest no matter what. There's just no getting around that. You can still get girls by showing a lot of interest but it goes against my entire style of seduction. It's like "ok now I'm out with you, impress me, entertain me." I have no problem doing that but I'd just rather not. What's in it for me? I know really fun and entertaining people and if I wouldn't go for coffee with them or go …
/r/seduction15/07/18 01:42 PM
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I like the dance of seduction as well, I just prefer to do it differently. If you enjoy going on dates then that's cool. It's just a preference thing.
/r/seduction15/07/18 01:00 PM
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It's a lot better to hangout in a group and then break away for a bit for some one on one time. That could be tough if you don't have cool people to always hangout with tho. Really you just want it to not be boring. Just chilling at the park and getting coffee sounds boring unless you are just a really fun person to be around.
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:41 AM
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Not making eye contact just means she's nervous. She showed you a ton of iois which means she is definitely into you, no doubt about it. Look up.what iois are so that you can recognize when a girl is into you. When i see 3 iois I start esculating to the kiss be because I'm already sure she likes me. She might as well have just said it out loud. When you notice this stuff you will become surprised at how many girls have been trying to show you that they are interested in you lol. You're going to …
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:37 AM
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It shouldn't be awkward and it shouldn't feel like you are putting it all on the line. The key here is micro kino esculation. The concept is basically like you are esculating touching her in small increments so the next touch isn't a big deal from the last touch. For example, If I rub noses with a girl then kissing her isn't going to be awkward because we are already almost kissing. high five, back of the hand touch hand on shoulder, hugs feeling her arms, arm link hand holding leg touching, low…
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:31 AM
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Oh shit I'm about to put you on. It's only the best pua book of all time imo. Google it and read it asap. It's pure gold. You don't have to do his exact routines but it's important to understand why the stuff he does works so well. It's the whole teach a man to fish thing. If you just use his routines and don't understand them then you will get stuck with one fish. Once you understand them to where you can customize his stuff snd make it your own, or even make up your own stuff all together then…
/r/seduction15/07/18 02:00 AM
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I'm not actually worried about frame. I don't like dates because they are just lame. I don't really want to go on dates with my girlfriends and they are really fun to be around. I definitely don't want to hang out one on one with some random girl I don't even really know like that. It could just be a preference thing but I feel like guys are only going on dates to seduce a girl. If you can seduce women without going on a date then why not do that? I'd much rather invite a girl to a BBQ, or get t…
/r/seduction15/07/18 01:53 AM
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Well you don't want to makeout for too long first of all. Always be the one to cuy it off first. Kissing is cool but you want to be turning her on and esculating. Pull her hair and feel her up. The goal is always sex in the firsr date. Have sex or make her reject you. Dates are gay. They are automatically putting you in a poor frame. You are trying to win them over equals death on the battlefield. It should always be more of a casual hangout anf not resemble a date at all. Even a group outing wo…
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:59 PM
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You go to their place. Say something like lets get you home. You have to probe for logistics and find out a good reason to go in their house tho. Using the bathroom can work. If you can't go to their place or urs then just hang out in the car or somewhere outside. I love fucking outside, it's the best. As long as you have a car your good.
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:49 PM
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The mystery method is my game bible, if u haven't read it you should. People love to shit on it for some reason tho. The natural by Richard la ruina is good too. You can find them both on google if you look hard enough for the pdf file. And watching the pickup artist that came on vh1 on vimeo always good stuff. Saw it 10 years ago when it came on vh1 and iy still pumps ke up to see those almost hopeless guys try to pull lol. I love it
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:44 PM
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Na yo, the key is to be smiling before you catch eyes. Definitely don't do the awkward smile at you because we caught eyes thing.
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:37 PM
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Thats whats up man. I only wear suits like a man lol. Suits are a life changer bro. Some well fitted suits from like H&M are cheap and nice. You will stand out tho. You cant look good and not stand out. I can go on all day about how legit suits are but just trust me if you can. Suits and similar attire is beyond any doubt the way to go. Dark blue jeans with brown dress shoes and a rolled up button up and shit like that. Yeah its hard being all that shit but when Im feeling lazy I lean on the sam…
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:22 PM
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Don't take her out to dinner. Regular formal dates are fir schmucks or for your girlfriends. Invite her to do something that doesn't rely on her coming. "Hey I'm going to so and so but my friend bailed on me. Come keep me company." You don't want to show too much interest and you don't want it to seem like a date. I like the "Im really high and I want some good pizza, do you know a place?" Then dont invite her, just say thanks and you're going to check it out. If she doesn't invite herself then …
/r/seduction14/07/18 04:58 PM
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You go out and talk to a guy thats just chilling. Tell him you need a wing and you are going to go open a set. Tell him to come in after 1 min and say something like hey are these ladies bothering you Then look at him weird and say ummm no.... then you both say "but I'll take a grape soda" and crack up laughing. Tell the girls that it's just an inside joke and you just met this guy 5 minutes ago and you already have an inside joke. Then introduce him. This is going to frame you as the extremely …
/r/seduction14/07/18 04:06 PM
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Yeah in a club it's just every man for himself bro. You can only have one on one interactions so if ur talking to ur boy you aren't talking to girls. But I have to warn you bro, loud clubs are just bad news. You can probably pull some easy one night stands and you can probably make out with a bunch of girls but that shit gets old quick and it's just not fulfilling. It's like it has no substance. I try to bring girls I met somewhere else to a loud club so we can dance and makeout then bounce some…
/r/seduction14/07/18 03:48 PM
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Not once in my life have I had a girl just look at me and ignore me lol. That's just not going to happen bro. 95% of the time I'm locked into the set with that exact opener with no problems at all. That's why I don't like going direct. If I ask an opinion then there's nothing to reject. Try to remember that people go out hoping that something fun will happen. Your the guy who is making stuff happen and they are the ones waiting. You have all the power. If they reject you then they are rejecting …
/r/seduction14/07/18 03:20 PM
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The hard part is that guys that aren't really good looking have a hard time being confident because they think girls won't find them attractive. It's really hard to fake confidence and its hard to have it when you believe you aren't attractive. After all, what is there to be confident about? I could go up to a group of 10s and exude confidence like I'm a perfect ten, even tho Im really only a 7 physically. That's not because Im just lying to myself but it's because I know that my confidence and …
/r/seduction14/07/18 02:46 PM
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Good work bro keep it up. Some basic knowledge would help.you tremendously in the field. Try reading a pua book or 2. The mystery method is my favorite even tho people love shiting on it for some reason. The natural by richard la ruina is good too. You need some basic plays in your playbook and a general understanding of what you are trying to do and how the girls will perceive you. A quick tip is no compliments on a girls looks. Pic out something more specific. I like your style or those are do…
/r/seduction14/07/18 02:05 PM
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There really is no real difference no matter the age. There will always be much more of a difference between what kind of girl she is then what her age is, so it's pretty irrelevant.
/r/seduction14/07/18 01:46 PM
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It's the best excuse to get them back to your place tho. I don't think anyone can turn down some weed and food.
/r/seduction14/07/18 01:43 PM
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That's because they don't have jobs. The lazy hippie bums lol. Just kidding. I love weed.
/r/seduction14/07/18 01:42 PM
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Funny story about this. My mom was living in san diego and she thought the sativa made you tired and the indica was more energetic so she bought a while bunch of different indicas because she likes to smoke throughout the day. I went to visit her and Im like lets smoke ma. She said she thinks shes getting old or something because she just cant smoke in the daytime anymore and be functional lol. This chick had like 13 different indicas and I was like mom, where's your sativas at? No wonder you ca…
/r/seduction14/07/18 01:39 PM
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Insta dates are the way to go. I don't even count numbers as anything more than a hail marry last ditch attempt.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:58 PM
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You sound like you aren't being completely honest with yourself. You sound pretty young and naive. You can be physically attracted to someone before you get to know them. Imagine you were hanging out with your boy one day and he just says he likes you as more than just friends. Then he says he wasn't being dishonest, he just needed time. It's possible for him to had just noticed he was attracted to you but it's highly doubtful. When I meet a girl I don't instantly know if I want to have sex with…
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:53 PM
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Play the question game
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:26 PM
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Who cares about some girl you met online that you will probably never actually meet. You need to focus on learning game, going out and cold opening girls and working on yourself. If you work out and dress nice and take care of yourself then you should look average at worst. Stop saying you're ugly man.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:25 PM
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Don't invite them on a date, it shows too much interest and it's not necessary. Dates are for girls you met online and for girlfriends. Invite yhem to something that isn't relying on them to come. Like a bbq with friends or meeting up at a bar with some some people. Your life is just going and you are asking them to pop in for a sec. I'd invite the girl as Im about to go out. "Hey I'm heading to so and so and my buddy bailed, come keep me company." I can't understand why guys are still asking gi…
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:18 PM
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Stop going on formal dates. Save dates for your girlfriend. There's no reason to ever go on a date with a girl you are not dating. Its a lot better to just hang out casually with them or invite them to hang out in a group setting. A double date is even better but I still would try to make it not seem like a date and more like just hanging out
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:11 PM
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Start being more casual. No more dates. Just hangout and do mundane everyday stuff like go to the grocery store. Start making her a part of regular life and stop trying so hard. Don't text her unless it's to invite her to hang out. Hangout in group settings and avoid the one on one date crap. This sounds crazy but you need to treat her more like a buddy and less like a potential lover. I know how that sounds but she just wants you to stop trying so hard.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:08 PM
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I wonder if a boxing coach would say some shit like that to his fighter. Lol "hey man there's no formula or anything, just get out there and throw punches. Keep at it. You can do it!" Lol I'd say pickup is way more complicated than boxing. You definitely need some structure. You don't want to overthink it but you don't want to under think it either. You gotta know what you are doing in order to be good at something.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:03 PM
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Jokes. Don't take anything serious and respond with a light hearted joke
/r/seduction14/07/18 11:57 AM
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You can assume every girl is going to be in a set of 2 or more. There's a way to open one girl out of the set if its 3 people or more by just walking up and saying how have you been, like you know her. The problem with this is you usually have to be out solo. It doesn't work well with a wing. You need to coordinate with ur wing. You are usually going to be opening the entire set and talking to everyone. You should approach the set alone and have your wing walk up a min later and say something. I…
/r/seduction14/07/18 11:54 AM
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I'm glad I could help. I was in pretty much the same situation only I was sleeping with the girl. She still rejected me twice when I asked her to be my girlfriend lol. When I switched it up she ended up asking me out on a formal date then asking me to be her boyfriend. The whole dynamic just shifted. Good luck bro
/r/seduction14/07/18 11:23 AM
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Na yo, if you want something serious then you are still in good territory. She clearly likes you and is interested or she wouldn't keep going on dates with you. At least you tried to sleep with her so it's not like you are in a bad place. Definitely don't ghost her at this point. All that will do is make her feel like you got tired of waiting to sleep with her. That's not going to go well and you don't want to loose the good momentum you already have built up. All you have to do is re frame the …
/r/seduction14/07/18 11:02 AM
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Too much writing her and you never esculated. Who cares tho, there's way too many girls to worry about how to rekindle something that was never really there to begin with
/r/seduction14/07/18 10:43 AM
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It doesn't matter if you are in the friend zone or not. Just try to seduce her either way if you want to
/r/seduction14/07/18 10:40 AM
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This is why I don't go on formal dates but you might be making it too obvious that you are inviting her back to have sex. Try inviting her to your place for a good reason and then disqualify yourself by saying something like "bit don't het any ideas I have to get up early tomorrow". Game is all about getting her to chase you so if you are showing too much interest then she's naturally going to feel like she's in a position to make you wait as long as she wants. Taking her on dates and inviting h…
/r/seduction14/07/18 10:38 AM
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The truth is that it's rare for an ugly guy to have a lot of confidence. You may think your looks are holding you back but it's just not true. As long as you look like a normal human being and you arnt extremely obese or something then you can be a 6 with the gym, hygiene and wardrobe. If you are deformed than you are at a huge disadvantage but besides that looks help get girls but that doesn't mean because someone might have it better that you have ot worst. All normal guys are on a pretty much…
/r/seduction14/07/18 02:25 AM
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Being a dancing monkey is not what you want to do either. You should read some books on outter game and practice the techniques they teach. Asking a bunch of questions is one of the worst things you can do. There's a difference between being mysterious and just not letting them know anythinh about you. If they don't get to know you then how can they connect with you and feel comfortable sleeping with you? Here's the basics of what I do. The first 3 minutes are pretty much scripted. Hey, I can on…
/r/seduction14/07/18 02:07 AM
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He's just trying to eat at the dinner table tho lol. Logistics couldn't be better lol
/r/seduction13/07/18 04:13 AM
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Well you shouldn't of told her you had feelings for her, next time just show her. You want to keep them guessing. All you have to do is say lets go get whatever after you play tennis and esculate from there. You need to hang out with her doing more than judt tennis. Never invite her on a formal date because it shows too much interest and it's too high pressure. Invite her to go out somewhere you and your friends are already going and tell her to invite her friends. Just hangout as much as possib…
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:36 AM
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If you arnt very talkative then you have to do more stuff like dance floor game. You are going to want to focus on esculating physically so you don't have to say much. You really don't have to be very talkative, you just need to know how to make them do all the talking. A lot of puas are actually introverts tho. You shouldn't try to look for a book for intrverts because game is game. Learn it then adapt it to your style. Really you only need to read a few books tops. Infield experience is the on…
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:30 AM
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That's a tough question but I would say the best thing you can do is keep things how they were before you started dating. For me that means no monogamy as well but I understand if you dont want to do that. Just try not to let thr dynamic of the relationship change because you started dating. Don't get boring all of a sudden either. Just keep doing what you are doing.
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:16 AM
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Don't use introversion as an excuse, extroverts can be just as shy and nervous about talking to people. Being shy is a habit that you can change. Just like being confident or outgoing.
/r/seduction11/07/18 07:53 AM
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What are his intentions? To take it slow by not trying to have sex for 2 months? Or were they to pretend he's trying to take it slow by not trying to have sex so she will be the one to facilitate things? The reason I feel bad for her is because it's normal for her to expect a guy to make a move. I'm sure both her and OP expect the guy to be the one to facilitate things. OP isn't confused why they aren't having sex, he knows why, she's the confused one. They are playing the same game and the ball…
/r/seduction10/07/18 05:19 PM
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Yeah but try not to paint it like she's taking advantage of this guy or something. The dude is taking her on dates and not making a move, it's really all his fault. This guy is talking about months later and he still didn't try to fuck her because he's "taking it slow". Its not like hes been trying to sleep with her and she keeps turning him down and going on more dates and making out. She probably been wanted to fuck since the first date and was just waiting forever for him to just try at all. …
/r/seduction10/07/18 04:23 PM
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Well said. Your boy is in the danger zone for real. If he had the skill it would take to get out of this hole then he wouldn't be in it to begin with. It's basically a lost cause at thos point but he can turn it around by friend zoning her and using her as a pawn to help him get other girls. Then he can get a fresh start by playing it off like he wasn't really that interested in her. But he would have to quickly esculate with a new girl and she has to know about it. Then you can flip a switch an…
/r/seduction10/07/18 03:32 PM
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You should always find out for sure if that's her boyfriend by saying something like how do you you know each other. You should of ignored that guy even if he was telling the truth because you are playing into his hand. He was probably jealous or trying to start shit because he obviously wasn't winging for you or yoi would know when a guy is trying to look out. You need to memorize indicators of interest. She clearly showed you one by calling out to you. After she shows 3 ioi's then you can go f…
/r/seduction10/07/18 03:21 PM
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I dont know them so I cant tell. I assume every girl is a little bi because everyone knows women are attractive creatures. You don't have to do anything but make them attracted to each other. They will get each other horny and it's pretty much unspoken that a guy has to be involved so they can justify not being straight up bi. You make them both think the other girl wants to do stuff. I'll say stuff that makes it so one of the girls has to agree with me or it will be kind of rude lol. Then the o…
/r/seduction06/07/18 11:37 AM
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It's only my personal opinion that he shouldn't do it unless he just wants to for whatever reason. I didn't say it didn't work for me so it wouldn't work for him. I simply stated a fact that I've done it and I shared the results. Have you ever tried it yourself or are you just talking out your ass? I asked him what he was even trying to accomplish then I made an assumption of what that was and suggested a better way to do it in my opinion. What is your point? Do you think I made an error in my s…
/r/seduction06/07/18 10:45 AM
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Dont drink too much, be very social with everyone and have fun. You can still do cold approaches tho. Indirect is going to work great at a house party. Girlfriend boyfriend role play works great. Constantly be doing something fun and be touchy feely with everyone
/r/seduction06/07/18 05:53 AM
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The key is to get them into each other not compete over you. Think of it as being a wing man for both girls but they don't know it. You want to make it all about them and you are sort of just a bystander.
/r/seduction05/07/18 11:30 AM
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Should help with both
/r/seduction05/07/18 06:54 AM
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You have to use push pull and be willing to walk away. An easy thing to do is every time you show interest follow it up by showing disinterest or vice versa. For example "your cute, too bad you aren't my type". Think of showing interest as adding a point and disinterest as subtracting a point. Try to stay at zero.
/r/seduction05/07/18 05:00 AM
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Ok will do. You can probably find it in about an hour of looking for it yourself, or maybe on the piratebay or something. The book probably upped my game about 10% but it was really interesting. Now I can quickly categorize what kind of gurl it is that I'm talking to. Ther are 8 types of girls in total according to this book and it helps me to be able to recognize the 2 types that I really don't want anything to do with so I don't waste my time. I did a post on the 8 types of girls about 10 post…
/r/seduction05/07/18 04:56 AM
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I found the pdf free online somewhere. Definitely not worth 80 bucks lol
/r/seduction04/07/18 08:15 PM
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I have to say tho, is kissing cheating is a bad opinion opener. You might not be using good openers. Do me a favor and try mine out and tell me what happens. Don't forget the FTC. I'd appreciate it
/r/seduction04/07/18 06:35 PM
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That makes since. I have no idea what its like it in Britain
/r/seduction04/07/18 11:07 AM
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Both work but one works better than the other from what I've seen. Im pretty confident that going direct during night game can only be pulled off consistently by certain types of people and fewer girls that are not as hot are more likely to respond to it. Pulling a ten by going direct is basically a suicide mission. Plus looks end up playing a much bigger role as well. I dont feel like the opposite is true. I'm the kind of person that can pull off direct night game well but I still do way better…
/r/seduction04/07/18 10:36 AM
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Yeah we definitely just have different styles. It's all good. Keep doing you pimp
/r/seduction04/07/18 09:38 AM
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You arn't likely going to get blown out right off the open unless the girl is rude. You can basically walk up and say anything just like you said. But having a girl invite me into vip, buy me a drink and start flirting and qualifying herself right away is making things really easy for me. If I say "hi Im judahmam, you have an interesting look" then I'm already showing a lot of interest and it becomes and up hill climb to get her chasing me unless she was just really into me from the start. Stuff…
/r/seduction04/07/18 09:37 AM
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I don't even know if I want to actually sleep with a girl that fast so my goal isnt to take them home as fast as possible. We probably just see things differently. I'm not only out to take a girl home, I'm trying to actually have a really good time and get to know them. I could just do dance floor game, makeout with girls and take them home without even talking to them if I'm going for speed. But I'm into set merging, trying to pull 3somes and 4 somes and making long lasting connections. If I pu…
/r/seduction04/07/18 08:47 AM
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Im just confused by this. You are talking to her to open the set by getting her opinion. The opener is supposed to take up usually less than 1 min maybe 2 tops. You are only trying to open the set, deactivate her bitch shields, display higher value and put yourself in position for her to qualify herself to you. You can usually start kino esculation immediately as well. "Oh I agree with that, high five". You can easily do push pull as a response as well as all kinds of other stuff. The male to fe…
/r/seduction04/07/18 08:37 AM
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I can tell you right now that you probably didnt use a false time constraint and your body language didn't look like you were about to walk away. Keep your toes pointed away from them. This is crucial to doing an opinion opener but I know for a fact that opinion openers have the best open rate if you use them right and you are in a setting where you can talk and be easily heard. Try to make sure that it comes off natural. I'm usually really engaged in conversation with my wing man then I'll just…
/r/seduction04/07/18 08:15 AM
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Why do hate them? they always get me into a discussion which is the point of opening a set. You havr to follow it up with something to hook the set and be locked in tho.
/r/seduction04/07/18 07:44 AM
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It's what I wrote. "Do you want to kiss me?" If she says maybe then say lets find out. If she says not here then wait until you are somewhere more private. I described the rest. Yeah man just assume she wants to do what you want to do because she most likely does if you are on a date or whatever already. Your only job is to make things go smoothly by leading. She is relying on you to be man enough to make shit happen. Don't disappoint her by not trying. Her only responsibility is to stop you if …
/r/seduction04/07/18 04:28 AM
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Grocery stores.
/r/seduction04/07/18 02:21 AM
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Change is going to be uncomfortable. You have been avoiding girls so now it's going to be uncomfortable to talk with girls and be sexual with them. You will naturally create excuses for yourself to justify how you are being and find out what those excuses you created are and stop believing them. It's not going to be easy. In the meantime you need to force yourself to talk to girls and be sexual with them regardless of how uncomfortable it is. Try to makeout with every girl you meet within 15 min…
/r/seduction04/07/18 02:17 AM
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I totally agree with this.
/r/seduction04/07/18 01:57 AM
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Pandoras box by vin dicarlo
/r/seduction04/07/18 01:48 AM
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I'd kiss her to start the date this time. As soon as you meet her give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Depending on where you are snd if you feel balsy then you could run your fingers up the back of her neck and to the roots of her hair. Grab her hair while looking into her eyes and say "do you want to kiss me right now" if she says no then say I didn't say you could, you just had that look in your eyes. If she says maybe then say lets find out. I'd probably wouldn't say anything and I would …
/r/seduction04/07/18 12:47 AM
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Hey, I have to get back to my friends in a second but I had a quick question. Do you think its cheating if your girlfriend kisses another girl?
/r/seduction04/07/18 12:32 AM
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Well it sounds like you don't have any actual game for one. You have a bad opener then you go into interview questions and you don't use any push pull. You basically are at like a 2 out of 10 for outer game. Your life style sounds boring as well. You probablyhave inner game issues as well. I would suggest you actually learn some outer game, that's going to have the biggest immediate effect. Your life being boring and inner game isn't so easy to fix. What was the most exciting thing you did in th…
/r/seduction03/07/18 11:48 PM
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You don't know me dude, don't be rude. It's a bad habit that will lead to bad character traits. I actually love taking risk but usually there's something I'm trying to gain from it. I don't know what you expect to gain from telling a girl you had a dream about having sex with her. Have you ever told a girl that? I have and it always plays out the same way. At best they may giggle or something but the conversation doesn't lead anywhere, it gets a little awkward then they change the subject. There…
/r/seduction03/07/18 11:27 PM
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Oh shit she's not what I thought then. It sounds like you have her figured out. The friend zone should work out great then. Do you want to date her tho?
/r/seduction03/07/18 01:25 AM
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Cold approach or not, until you're having sex you are still running the bases in my book. I started by saying chances are nothing bad will come of it and she probably will react like that. If he thinks that's fun then go for it. I like to break it all the way down tho my dude. My brain just thinks like that automatically. I'm just telling the man how I see it and what I would do. He can take it or leave it. He might find my suggestion to be even more fun or possibly gain some insight into how gi…
/r/seduction03/07/18 01:22 AM
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I know her type. She wants to deny the fact that she enjoys sex. She actually does still want to still have sex but she doesn't want you to know that and she wants to convince herself that its not the case. Now that you saw that side of her she's going to over compensate by not doing anything sexual at all. It's going to be extremely frustrating but you know how to play it now.
/r/seduction03/07/18 01:01 AM
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Lol well yeah that's your problem. It's extremely hard to recover from bad sex. Next time ur drunk Try to make her cum orally or by fingering her before you start. This will save you from blowing yourself out like you did.
/r/seduction03/07/18 12:45 AM
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Are you trying to get into a relationship with her? If not then I would leave her alone. If you are then you should still try your best to sleep with her. If you esculate sexually then she will want to be in a relationship with you because she wants to have sex with you. The only way to make her want to be in a relationship is to make her want to have sex. The only way to do that is to try to have sex with her. A lot of the religious girls are actually super freaks with conflicting ideas. Don't …
/r/seduction03/07/18 12:34 AM
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The sex could have sucked. She could be trying to have a seriously relationship and feels you would not respect her if you.keep having sex casually. She could be testing you to see if you are only hanging out to have sex. No matter what I would start to hit on other girls. I would essentially friend zone her. I would say something about thinking she just wanted to be friends because she kept turning down my advances. I would even tell her to help me hit on other girls or to hook me up with one o…
/r/seduction03/07/18 12:17 AM
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The risk are that she could think you are lying about the dream and using it as an excuse to talk about sex with her. Or even if its true you are still using it to basically confess you want to sleep with her in a lame way. The more I think the worst it seems. How do you expect that conversation to go really? Now it might not go over badly at all but I don't really see the benefit. Being that direct is something you do right as you are about to have sex so it allows you to verbally get in the mo…
/r/seduction03/07/18 12:09 AM
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Nothing to do really. A movie is just the worst. You can do your best to hang out after the movie so you can flirt. Be touchy with everyone. Demand hugs from everyone when you meet up starting with your guy friend. If your balsy you can lead the girl by taking her hand and putting it on your arm. Maybe play games or something before the movie. Just try to gave fun and make lots ofvstring eye contact really
/r/seduction02/07/18 11:52 PM
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I don't understand. Is she stopping your advances cold? Or are you just not making strong enough moves?
/r/seduction02/07/18 11:46 PM
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I wouldn't. It might not backfire but its not going to help either
/r/seduction02/07/18 11:45 PM
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Just remember to always be moving forward. I think about it like a wheel on a hill. If Im not going up I'm rolling down but there is no standing still. When You start thinking like this you wont miss any opportunities to make a move because you will feel like you always trying to make a move whenever you can.
/r/seduction02/07/18 11:44 PM
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Lol oh dam dude that's your entire problen right there. You have a crucial flaw in hiw you think and I'm going to do my best to make you aware of it. If you don't fix it then it doesn't matter if you move on to the next gurl because it will just keep happening. Now you said you want to sleep with her, but you are not trying to sleep with her. Does that not sound completely illogical to you? Do you somehow think that if you don't try to sleep with her she will think you are a better person and th…
/r/seduction02/07/18 11:25 PM
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Will thats it, thats the core of needy behavior. Those that are happy regardless of their circumstances are not needy. You can be happy in a cell with no arms or legs. Happiness is actually choice. If your happiness relies on circumstances then you are needy and will never truly be happy. That's why you hear money can't by happiness and all that shit. It's because you chose to be happy and no amount of money can do that for you. I remember somebody said that they can quickly tell if a person is …
/r/seduction02/07/18 10:59 PM
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Training yourself to think properly is not an easy task. It's essentially all you need to be successful in life so you can bet your ass that It's not going to be easy to figure out. Usually the first step is unlearning everything you think you know. You might not be able to understand this but rid yourself of all beliefs because beliefs are a burden. Replace them with ideas because ideas can be easily changed. Then it's simply a matter of collecting ideas and using them to your advantage. It tak…
/r/seduction02/07/18 10:32 PM
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I'm not suggesting to just hang around waiting for her. You should always be talking to more girls. You should go out with her 2 or 3 times and try to sleep with her. If you can't do it then let it be. Sometimes a girl will say something like thay and then sleep with you the next time they see you. Don't blow yourself out for no reason. At least try to sleep with her first.
/r/seduction02/07/18 10:21 PM
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Wait ditching her is not the only option. Why not sleep with her. Don't text, hangout with her and make strong moves. If you can't sleep with her in a certain amount of tries then you just need to up your game. She's obviously interested tho.
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:51 PM
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There's a big difference between wanting something and being needy and it seems like you really don't understand the difference. Saying stuff like "if I had a needy radar then I could" is being needy because you are basically trying to put yourself in a position where you are relying on something else. If you would of said a needy radar would be pretty cool but Im still going to practice not being needy so I would never need one." that would be different. You have to figure out what beeing needy…
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:12 PM
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Also its not about sleeping with as many girls as possible. I'm screening to have the best girlfriend possible. I won't be thrilled to just have any girlfriend. If you become my girlfriend then its because you are sn amazing girl not just the first girl that will have me.
/r/seduction02/07/18 08:14 PM
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Well its not really a handicap if you are an ugly guy. Lol It's part of being a man. You should not want to be needy anyways lol
/r/seduction02/07/18 08:07 PM
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I wasn't assuming you were going to dinner I was saying not to. You shouldn't judge a girl as a slut or whore just because she slept with someone on the first date. A lot of my friends are married to girls they slept with on the first date and would never consider any of them as unworthy to date or whores because of that. I was with a girl for 9 years and I slept with her on the first date and she was a great girlfriend and she's still a great person. I don't know where you got that idea from bu…
/r/seduction02/07/18 08:02 PM
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You can't buy them in stores if that's what you're asking.
/r/seduction02/07/18 07:13 PM
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My friends usually don't tell me we can hangout as just friends lol.
/r/seduction02/07/18 07:11 PM
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First of all you shouldnt be looking for a girl friend. It's making you come off ass needy and girls are picking up on that vibe. You want the girl to chase you. Girls want guys that other girls want. Guys who get girls are actively trying not to have a girlfriend. You are trying to get a girlfriend when a girl should be trying to get you to want to make her your girlfriend. Not only are you making the chase boring, you are telling these gurls that you are a low value man that girls don't want t…
/r/seduction02/07/18 06:57 PM
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I love the Mystery Method, I still think it's the best hands down.
/r/seduction02/07/18 06:16 PM
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Lol Believe whatever helps you sleep at night, right next to your ugly wife.
/r/seduction01/07/18 01:57 AM
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Most definitely. I've only read like 10 books tops but I was going out literally every day for about 6 months straight when I was really trying to get good. Now I don't even really have to try at all. If I read a book I'll be happy to learn one little thing that I didn't already know.
/r/seduction01/07/18 01:32 AM
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You don't need to cum while having sex. I purposely don't cum while having sex most of the time. Most people don't know this but and orgasm and cumming are 2 different things. I can orgasm multiple times without cumming. Read a book called the multi orgasmic man, That should help.
/r/seduction30/06/18 11:58 PM
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I became a natural threw a ton of experience.
/r/seduction30/06/18 11:53 PM
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If you read that much material already then you should just be out gaining experience in the field. You don't need a book on logistics lol. That's like a chapter at most but logistics is mostly common sense.
/r/seduction30/06/18 11:50 PM
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Lol yeah ok, whatever you say loser.
/r/seduction30/06/18 09:09 PM
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If that link doesn't work just google it and yoh can watch it on vimeo
/r/seduction30/06/18 08:50 AM
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https://vimeo.com/114058775
/r/seduction30/06/18 08:45 AM
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I'm done playing with you. It was fun but I'm on this sub to talk about game. If I have any questions on how to get stuck with an ugly wife then I'll be sure to ask you for advice. Until then, eat a dick my dude. Lol
/r/seduction30/06/18 07:38 AM
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You're the one deflecting. This isn't a business deal, I didn't ask you for an offer. You dont have anything to offer me. It's hilarious that you even think you can pay me anything. I'll pay you 10gs to prove your wife isnt ugly lol. I will continue my make believe fantasy life and you continue pretending you're happy with your ugly wife. lol
/r/seduction30/06/18 07:31 AM
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Lol still not worked up. You sound worked up with all the misplaced insults tho lol. You didn't mention what you were good at. Dont be shy. Lol "I'm supper happy" lol that's not even somewhat believable. You're just upset that your wife is ugly and you probably arn't getting laid hardly at all. Who uses the word dweeb? lol you're a lame. And I'm not your buddy pal. Lol
/r/seduction30/06/18 07:00 AM
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Lol I am about 150lbs and I should totally get one of those anime pillows!! Do you watch anime? I live in Houston right now but I don't need your money, I pull girls for fun. I wish I knew you so I could make you look stupid. That would be really fun but unfortunately I don't know you so I don't care about you at all and I care even less aboug 1000 dollars. Your right, if I was picking up women then there's just no way I would waste anytime on reddit. I just moved from Boston so it was the perfe…
/r/seduction30/06/18 06:49 AM
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Lol you wish I was mad. I have nothing to be mad at. I don't get mad at dogs for licking their own ass.
/r/seduction30/06/18 06:05 AM
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Lol First of all I wear nothing but suits. Im not worked up, I told you that this is entertaining to me. When did I say you said you were a writer? No, that was a retorical question genius. One of us definitely needs to work on reading comprehension. I know you aren't a writer, I'm pointing out that you are just a regular schmuck probably living some unfulfilled life with your ugly wife that I could probably take home and bang if I ever met her lol. I only post on here to help others not to lear…
/r/seduction30/06/18 06:03 AM
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Go watch the pickup artist that came on vh1 like 10 years ago, on YouTube.
/r/seduction30/06/18 05:44 AM
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How does she know you are a virgin? Next time don't let that be known. This girl falls into a certain kind of personality type that isn't looking for commitment. She would get into a relationship with someone after being casual lovers for a while first just to see if he gets clingy. She doesn't want a guy to get clingy with her so finding out you are a virgin would be a huge red flag. Like if I found out a girl was a virgin I straight up wouldn't want to be her first either. I never suggest lyin…
/r/seduction30/06/18 05:41 AM
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Lol So you think I'm lying? Do you have any idea how lame I would have to be to lie about something like that? Think about the psychology behind that. I'm lying to some schmuck on reddit to some how justify my lack of grammar only to admit that I am indeed extremely lame and stupid just so I can convince some lame that I don't even know of something that doesn't even matter. What would I gain from that? I would just make myself feel bad for no benefit lol. Now either I'm a very illogical and uns…
/r/seduction30/06/18 05:30 AM
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You don't actually need to talk much you just need to get them talking about themselves. The question game is a great thing to play when first meeting a girl. You can get away with just asking her about unusual topics that naturally lead into a lot of topics. For example the first day of highschool. The last time she went to an amusement park. The last place she traveled to. The last time she got blacked out drunk, if ever. Anything fun that corresponds to a lot of different memories. Think of t…
/r/seduction28/06/18 10:37 PM
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Beach game is one of my favorites. I lived close to Miami and Fort Lauderdale for a long time so keep that in mind because the beach you go to just might not be the same kind of crowd. First of all you need to be having fun. Music, drinks and at least one thing to toss around. Don't walk up and ask girls to play with you and don't do any direct openers. You can expect almost 100% blowout rate if you do either of those things. Instead open sets indirectly. The beaches I go to are usually packed w…
/r/seduction28/06/18 10:27 PM
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But to trick your brain into allowing yourself to approach you can do a lot of things. Think of it like a dare. If you pretend you were dared to do it then you won't be worried about her reaction because it doesn't matter, it's just harmless fun. All that matters is you not being a pussy and doing the dare. Think of it as research. "I wonder what will happen if I walk up and say this to a girl". Now you are just trying to see the results but the results of the experiment and you arn't worried ab…
/r/seduction28/06/18 08:33 AM
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Don't think about how not to be perceived as a predictable boring nice guy, think about how to not be a predictable boring nice guy. Do this by trying new things. Read books you never thought to read, especially non fiction. Watch more Anime if you haven't seen a bunch of different kinds. Watch movies that you never thought of watching and play video games you never thought to try. Make a habit out of constantly looking to try something. The more things you try the more well rounded you become a…
/r/seduction28/06/18 07:59 AM
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I actually really enjoy solo night game but it is definitely a lot more challenging. I try to establish a home base with some other guys or girls as soon as possible. Then it's like you are with peopls and it makes things easy. You can usually get a random guy to wing for you no problem.
/r/seduction28/06/18 04:29 AM
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I wasn't going to say anything but I really want to. This is so ridiculously pathetic that I truly believe that it's most likey a joke. With that said, someone who thinks like this will most likely never get laid or have a girlfriend. Do everything different
/r/seduction28/06/18 04:25 AM
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I haven't asked a random girl to dance since high school. I guess maybe that might work sometimes but I doubt it. You can ask at a party but you will for sure blow yourself out at a club or something. When Im at a club or something I mighy ask a girl that I already opened. What works best for me is when I ignore everyone a dance in my own zone like I don't care. Then whatever girl gets close to me I just make eye contact and use body language that shows I'm going to attempt to dance witg her. Th…
/r/seduction27/06/18 07:10 AM
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Usually the problem in these situations is that the guy isn't actually making a move. If you are sleeping in the same bed with her and not having sex then that's usually a dead giveaway that you arn't making enough sexual advances twards her. A girl will not sleep in the same bed with you while you are actively trying to have sex with her. Make her kick you out of the bed. She should be having sex with you or kicking you out of the bed. If you aren't being kicked out of bed then you probably arn…
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:59 AM
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They were bored. After one or two songs I try to bounce girls somewhere we can talk. You could of not been in sync with how they wanted to dance as well. I never dance for more than 2 songs tho
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:42 AM
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When I'm cold approaching during night game I try to always make it seem like I'm not going to leave soon so they don't get worried that I'm going to linger around. A false time constraint or body rocking work good for this. I don't know if you are familiar with FTCs but you say something like "I can only stay for a sec but..." or " I have to get back to my friends in a second but" this really loosens people up. Body language like keeping your toes pointed away from them or doing body rocking un…
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:36 AM
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Lol nope
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:10 AM
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Lol Its so hilarious because I'm literally part of a writing team that writes television scripts you foolish foolish person. Do you feel better about yourself when you point out grammar? If it makes you feel good you should go back and fix all of the grammar in all of my comments. That should be fun for you. You are showing all of the signs of a complete loser and I doubt you have any game at all.
/r/seduction26/06/18 07:26 PM
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Well it's marketed as a way to get women into bed which is exactly what it does. It's not relationship advice and success with women is a very vague statement. Anyone who thinks all of their problems will be solved by a single book is just an idiot. They will be an idiot with or without MM. But that same idiot wont be successful by reading a different book. You are essentially steering people away from information that you also agree is useful just because they might be an idiot. Maybe that's th…
/r/seduction26/06/18 04:05 AM
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A specific routine can only be used once but so what? If you understand why a routine works then you can create them without limit. Ive never approached a girl and she was like " false time constraint, nice try. I'm not gonna fall for your opinion opener and your DHV story has no effect on me." Lol It's way more covert then you think. I have yet to meet a girl that has ever even heard the name Mystery or has seen that show on VH1 from ten years ago. Lol I would never suggest only learning MM, th…
/r/seduction26/06/18 01:54 AM
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I'm writing quickly, this isnt a book that Im trying to publish. You understood what I was saying right? So what are trying to accomplish, or are you just being a lame for no reason? How about you work on your game instead of peoples grammar on seddit
/r/seduction26/06/18 01:07 AM
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I love MM and I have no problem using it and being my honest and true self. All you have to do is replace the routines they use with routines that use the same fundamentals but are customized for you to stay true to yourself. For instance instead of telling one of his DHV stories you tell a real DHV story that you have gotten good at telling. What exactly are the superficial techniques you speak of? I still use FTC's, opinion openers, compliance test, kiss closes, negs, peacocking, kino and DHV …
/r/seduction25/06/18 11:35 PM
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When you learn something it starts off simple, then it gets complicated, then it ends up simple again. "To get girls, all you have to do is be bla bla bla" it's simple. "Wait how do I become bla bla bla?" now it's complicated. "Oh I finally get it" simple again. So is it complicated or simple? Well it's actually both.
/r/seduction25/06/18 10:47 PM
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You can show interest but you have to balance it out by showing disinterest. Puch pull basically. Being willing to walk away and not sucking up to women is another example. Playful teasing women like they are just another regular person is another example.
/r/seduction25/06/18 07:51 PM
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The Mystery Method Mode 1 The Natural by Richard La Ruina
/r/seduction25/06/18 07:46 PM
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You better up your game and quick. Times running out. You know what they say, if you don't use it you loose it. You've been out of high school for a whole 2 years and you haven't slept with at least 30 women yet? It doesn't matter if most guys only sleep with an average of 5 women their entire lives. Or if over 90% of men only date women in their social circle and never actually learn how to really attract women but rather just settle for the very limited options that come their way. So what if …
/r/seduction25/06/18 09:05 AM
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I don't care about boyfriends or husbands unless I know the guy and that may sound messed up but I thought about this a lot and I really do care a lot about ethics. Think about it like this... What are the rules of their relationship? Is she about to break up with him? Are they on a break? Is she lying to you about being in a relationship at all? Is she looking to replace him but won't end it without having another guy already? Is he cheating on her? The reason for all these questions is to poin…
/r/seduction25/06/18 08:37 AM
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If you want to play then play. You don't see me asking people for support to play street fighting 5. It's just a game, play it and enjoy it while you still can. Don't forget that you are going to die. Even if you live forever, every single moment is gone forever after it passes by. Read some books on game and then go play it. Focus on improving yourself and your own life in whatever ways you want. Be happy about being heartbroken. That means you care and you have some good memories. Don't try to…
/r/seduction25/06/18 08:08 AM
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First and foremost you need to get over this idea that you should be more experienced with women. It's perfectly ok to be your age and have no experience with women. I think most of the best pua's in the world were in your exact same situation. There's a ton of guys in the same position as you and a lot of guys have only had a single relationship. Most single guys only sleep with one girl a year and 5 girls in a lifetime. You may feel like you are pathetically far behind but in reality you can s…
/r/seduction25/06/18 07:48 AM
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Yes, very.
/r/seduction25/06/18 12:27 AM
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Online is lame
/r/seduction24/06/18 11:35 PM
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Texting is only working against you. If you aren't setting up a meet up then you should barely ever text a girl. Save texting for your girlfriend
/r/seduction24/06/18 11:34 PM
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Lol Thanks for the compliment.
/r/seduction24/06/18 10:52 PM
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Talking and drinking is pretty boring. I don't really go out with women in their forties and my personality and lifestyle is probably extremely different than yours so its really hard for me to say. I like to go to 3 different locations. I'll start somewhere chill and casual like a coffee house. Then I'll take them somewhere fun like dave and busters. Bug it seems like I thought it up on the spot. I'll challenge them to some video games like mario cart or something then I'll get competitive and …
/r/seduction24/06/18 09:59 PM
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You want to text her as little as possible anyways. It doesn't matter if you have to text her next week again. You don't want to be too invested in this girl anyways. Go out and talk to more girls. But yeah you could invite her along to something. The night time venue is best tho.
/r/seduction24/06/18 09:33 PM
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I thought I explained how to do that already. The point is to frame the situation as an impromptu hangout. Where do you want to casually hangout with her? Whatever that place is text her " Hey you, I was going to so and so to meet up with a buddy but he just bailed on me, come keep me company." You can say it however you want but the point is to make her believe you are going to do something that doesn't rely on her showing up. You are inviting her into your everyday life. You arnt sweating ger …
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:48 PM
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Yes she will feel like your second choice, that's exactly what you want. You want ger to chase you. The only way to do that is to not show more interest in her then she shows in you. Imagine if she texted you an invitation on a date. You would probably think she likes you for sure, your 100% in there. You don't ever want her to think like that too early. Stay away from asking her on a formal date, it doesn't matter what you have planned for the date. It needs to not come off like a date. Dates a…
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:28 PM
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It just sounds like a wasted opportunity. Like you just wasted time. It seems like you didn't make any progress at all with her. I don't see the point. Am I missing something?
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:16 PM
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What's stopping you from hanging out?
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:11 PM
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I meant the conversation was boring because it was just regular conversation. Sure it was a conversation but nothing was going on that was really progressing thjngs in your favor. I'd text her today to meet pp just like I described. You want to stay away from asking her out on a formal date
/r/seduction24/06/18 07:56 PM
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Whatever bro like I care
/r/seduction24/06/18 07:50 PM
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Ill give you some basics that might help. You shouldn't have to put yourself in a position where you have to put yourself out on a limb. Eye contact is crucial. Show sexual interest but cover your ass by immediately showing disinterest. "Wow your really hot, too bad you aren't my type" would be an example. Just Google push pull techniques. This is bread and butter stuff. Ask girls to meet up with you casually to do something that it seems like you were going to do anyways. "Hey I was going to me…
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:58 AM
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Like what do you want from a girl? She's basically like "please have sex with me" and you're all "is she dropping hints?" First of all learn what the indicators of interest are and memorize them. Most girls will not be so direct about it. Here's the rules I go by. If I get 3 ioi's then I need to make out with the girl within 15 minutes. After that I no longer need to esculate, I already know where the night is going so I can just have a good time and enjoy her company. In the meantime all Im thi…
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:41 AM
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Take it one step at a time. First of all you need to start kissing her a lot more often. You can't kiss 2 times in 2 months then jump to sex lol. Start feeling her up when making out. You can't have sex before you start grabbing her ass and tits and are comfortable touching her body. Then when you are alone you need to just esculate. So you're making out and feeling her up as usual then you just tell her to take off her shirt. You want the vibe to not feel heavy so talk to her. Tell her how sexy…
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:25 AM
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That's what's up bro, congratulations on that. Now it's time to learn from this experience. First things first I'm not trying to be a dick. Lol I fully support you and I'm only trying to help. Now lets go over what you did right!! You had the balls to go out alone. You made a move and opened her. (Talked to her) You made solid eye contact. You made physical contact, aka kino. You went outside and stood close to her. You had the balls to ask her to come home with you and to kiss her. You fucking …
/r/seduction24/06/18 07:47 AM
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It should be done immediately. What you did was more like playful teasing, which is good on its own, then you showed interest later when you said she looked beautiful up there, but you should of still followed it up by showing disinterest right after the compliment. In my personal opinion that would have been optimal. The push pull is a single action, a single move. It's not push then wait then pull, its push pull. You can push or pull first, it doesn't matter as long as you are doing them toget…
/r/seduction24/06/18 06:54 AM
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Saying actually is good because it implies you were thinking the opposite. Actually you're pretty smart. Actually you're kinda cute. Its like saying you just noticed this because of something they did or say. It's basically push pull in a way
/r/seduction24/06/18 05:29 AM
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Whenever I show interest no matter what I immediately show disinterest. This is what I follow no matter what. You can show disinterest verbally or non verbally and it doesn't have to be disinterest to the same degree you showed interest. For example I could say " you're really rocking that dress it's so cute I can't take it" then immediately turn away from her and engage someone else in conversation. This would be showing non verbal disinterest. There is never a good reason to show interest and …
/r/seduction24/06/18 05:26 AM
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Sorry I'm not trying to attack you or anything. Go out and practice purely for the sake of learning for a while. I think you need a certain state of mind to really get good at this. When I was training I wasn't worried about getting results at all. I would open the hottest girls and I took every set like a lesson. I would go home and go over every little thing I did wrong and figure out what I should of done instead. I would give myself challenges to complete to work on my weak points. I would w…
/r/seduction24/06/18 04:45 AM
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That's extremely vague to be a sticking point. Are you good at opening and hooking the set? Do you then escalate kino and get the girl chasing you by using push pull or what do you do when you are in the set? Do you have an idea of how to mini isolate or even full isolate to go for the kiss? How long do you take to get a kiss? What do you do after that? How fo you get them back to your place? Do you have a good idea of how to do these things consistently? Exactly what point of the interaction ar…
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:55 AM
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I gave up on worrying about someone else's relationship status. If the guy isn't there with them or I don't know him them he doesn't exist to me. That's on her and him not me. It sounds messed up but it's not. I do what I want and she can do what she wants. I'm not here to make her decisions for her. If she's going to cheat on her husband then it doesn't matter if it's with me or another guy, she's going to do what she wants. If a girl starts grinding on me on the dance floor I'm not gonna say "…
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:42 AM
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Being an Alpha is being an Alpha. At any point you become a Beta, even if its 10 years down the road and you are married with 5 kids, she will treat you like a Beta. You can help girls out without being a Beta. You have to realize that a girl is going to constantly test you to see if you are who you say you are. They will do this forever and they are very good at it because they have to be. Guys are constantly trying to trick girls into thinking they are better then they are. If you become incon…
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:34 AM
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Guys with no game walk up and play the numbers game by just being direct with girls until one says yes. Don't mistake this for gaming girls. This is what regular guys do that don't know anything about game. Naturally if you are just that guy who approaches girls with no tact until one says yes, then you are displaying lower value and you can blow out an entire venue in 20 minutes like that. If you arn't getting results when you are going out and actually trying to build your skill set then you a…
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:26 AM
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Physical looks make up about 20% of what girls find attractive. A lot of guys confuse how important looks are because of a lot of reasons but mainly because the physical appearance of a girl is extremely important to us as men. That's just how we are wired. The other 80% is a combination of confidence, personality, social value and survival value. This can actually be proven. You can be butt ugly but compensate for that with high social value like being a celebrity, or high survival value by bei…
/r/seduction24/06/18 12:53 AM
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Well I'm saying not to just come from behind and start grinding on a girl. The girl is usually aware of who it is that is coming up from behind in one way or another.
/r/seduction23/06/18 09:43 PM
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You have to get a signal of some sorts from the girl so you know it's ok. Basically it's like non verbal consent.
/r/seduction23/06/18 09:39 PM
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If I were to show interest by calling a girl cute then I would follow it up with showing disinterest. "Your cute, to bad you're not my type." Or "Actually your kinda cute" is similar. To be honest I wouldn't compliment a girl that I'm not sleeping with on their looks in the first place.
/r/seduction23/06/18 09:36 PM
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I understand it's hard to believe but that's why you should try it for yourself and experience what I'm talking about first hand. Being pretensious is an attitude, it really has nothing to do with wearing a suit at all. If you are wearing a suit and being pretensious about it then that's different. I'm not the least bit pretensious. There are no pretensious suits just like there are no happy suits or confident suits. A suit can maybe make you feel pretensious, happy, or confident but the clothes…
/r/seduction23/06/18 06:25 AM
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Oh yeah that's him lol thanks bro
/r/seduction23/06/18 06:11 AM
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It should work the same on all people actually. Also a lot of this stuff can be applied to a bunch of areas, not just pickup. Like you can use some of this stuff to get people thinking about any topic that you want them to think about, not just sex
/r/seduction23/06/18 04:40 AM
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Sure I'll telll you a story. Me and my wing were at a high end club in Houston and we were locked in a set with these two sexy ass European girls. We started playing the question game and naturally questions started leading to sex. One of the girls started talking about how much she loves having sex and how rough she likes it. She said she loves when a guy fingers her and we were telling her how we hate when girls scratch our backs so hard we bleed. You can see in this girls face how turned on s…
/r/seduction23/06/18 04:07 AM
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I agree that Newbs should definitely focus on those things but I think things like the question game come in clutch regardless of what level you are at. Quotes are also basically risk free and can be used by begginers. Also I don't know if its for beggi begginers or not but my very first night out sarging I talked about a girls choker and it was one of the highlights of my night. Infact it's because of that night that I always mention BDSM when I see a girl with a choker and I can't remember it …
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:32 AM
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These are great ways to be flirty and playful as well as a way to turn girls on. You are basically saying these ways to be flirty and playfuly are try hard and forceful as long as you are flirty and playful and she's magically turned on with out you knowing how to do that then you need to up your game by not upping your game using these 5 easy tips that will up your game. lol
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:22 AM
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Whos RJ? lol
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:13 AM
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So much more goes on then just talking about sex when it comes to "closing the deal". I mean it's basically like asking me how do I close the deal after making a joke or reading her palm. I don't know how to answer that without just telling you every single thing I would possibly from beginning to end. Generally speaking you want to makeout and esculate kino and then get them to a full close location and make a move. After talking about sex you can go anywhere you want to go from there. It depen…
/r/seduction23/06/18 12:21 AM
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Lol go on youtube and watch the pick up artist that aired on VH1 like ten years ago. It's good stuff
/r/seduction22/06/18 11:41 PM
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Lol well dam I don't really know how to answer any of those questions. You are in the territory of over thinking. There are no rules for that stuff. I could open a set by bringing up sex like Ive done with the choker thing or I can talk about sex right before having sex and anywhere in between. All of that stuff pretty much falls under calibration.
/r/seduction22/06/18 11:39 PM
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There's a lot of guys who don't know how to get a girl thinking about sex at all. Body language and kino are both good tools to use but that doesn't make words obsolete. I wouldn't say don't use body language because you can use words either. This idea of one being more fabricated is dumb. Every single thing you do and say is learned out of habit. Neither words nor body language is any more fabricated then the other. Learning game is about learning new habits. I can't stand when people say so an…
/r/seduction22/06/18 10:46 PM
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Is it simple or is it complicated? The truth is that it's both. Things start of simple, then they become very complicated and finally they end up simple again. This is the process you must go threw to master anything. If anything remains simple to you then you simply don't know much about it.
/r/seduction22/06/18 10:21 PM
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Thanks for that very wise and detailed breakdown. You're a god dam savant.
/r/seduction22/06/18 08:40 PM
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Well that's complicated but I'll tell you what. I first learned about Mystery when I say his show on VH1 called the pickup artist 10 years ago. You can probably find it on YouTube. I always had a lot of inner game and I was naturally social. I didn't really have a problem attracting women or talking to them but I still didn't understand them at all really. I was 18 and a virgin like most guys at the time. I watched that show and I didn't really get a chance to go out and practice at the time but…
/r/seduction22/06/18 03:47 PM
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RSD is tight but like they aren't really going to teach you how to properly open a set. I'm not trying to shit on RSD because I watch all of their shit but I have to be honest. The stuff I learned from RSD makes up about 5% of my game. Basically if I never even heard about them it wouldn't affect my game hardly at all. They are great like motivational speaker ass guys but when it comes to actually stuff you can use in field they don't teach you much. Like how do you actually open a set lol. They…
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:58 PM
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Lol that's cool. This one time I was in Destinel Florida bar hoping around during saint patricks day. Me and my wing were suited uo and we looked way ouy of place. Occasionally we would here people snicker or laugh about something as we walked by or they would make a comment about us out loud and we would all laugh and chat for a sec. Whenever you stand out stuff like this happens but it never bothers me. Anyways we were walking up to this bar that had a live band playing and a group of people r…
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:36 PM
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You havd to google pua question game and pua best friends test
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:21 PM
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Lol yeah I feel you bro
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:19 PM
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Have you read any pua books?
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:19 PM
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Yo if you arn't opening sets then just stay home bro because you are wasting your time and money. Read a book and use any line and just try that at least. Are you seriously just sitting there by yourself? That's going to make you not want to go out so quick bro
/r/seduction22/06/18 07:22 AM
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You should go out with a wing man or someone who is also just trying to get girls. If you try to go out with schmucks that aren't on the same page as you then it's going to suck. Read a bunch of pua books. I know how that sounds but these books give you an insight into how girls think and what to do that would take you a lifetime to figure out. Use them to learn even if you don't use the exact same tactics. This is just my personal opinion but you should use a scripted opener. I've always been g…
/r/seduction22/06/18 07:20 AM
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You definitely want to turn it to your favor like everyone is saying. What you said was basically the worst thing you could of said. You tried to qualify yourself. Everyone already gave solid advice but I just want to add a response I thought of. Laugh and say "I prefer to call it being down to earth " then this is where you get them. Say "You know I use to be really self-conscious about my height (punch straight to a girls heart) but I was dating this gorgeous gazelle of a girl and I asked her,…
/r/seduction22/06/18 07:03 AM
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But I don't understand, are you even attempting to game these girls?
/r/seduction22/06/18 06:41 AM
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You can't get far with eye contact. But you should work on getting comfortable touching girls. Lots og high fives, hugs, nudges and shit like that. My bro is in the army but he was only getting laid while he was away on leave. My other brother was in the coast gaurd and was getting mad girls in there. Invite them to hangout and get a hotel or something. Then just make out with them. It should be pretty straight forward really.
/r/seduction22/06/18 06:35 AM
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Oh no trust me, I get it. When I started wearing suits I just threw the rest of my shit away for the most part. I bought a black suit and a dark blue suit. A black pair of dress shoes and a brown pair. Like 400 bucks for everything. You can switch up the blazers with jeans and different kinds of shirts and slacks as you go and you can get away with just 2 suits like that forever. I mean Tom Ford even wears the same shit everyday like a uniform. If you don't make a drastic move then you aren't ch…
/r/seduction22/06/18 06:00 AM
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So this is kind of tricky and you have to view it in the right way. Social circles develop naturally and they have limits. Like I can't have a close social circle of more then like 8 people. Try to think of it as linking social circles rather than adding to your close social circle. For example you have your close social circle. Then you meet this really cool girl that you feel like she would get along with your friends. You hangout and then invite her to bring her close social circle to hang ou…
/r/seduction22/06/18 05:18 AM
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Well fitted suits will change your life. Hit up H&M to start to get some cheap but good looking suits. Then when you figure out whats up you can buy more expensive ones
/r/seduction22/06/18 04:48 AM
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Oh it will be really hard because you will have tinder as a crutch. It's kinda like when you pay for prostitutes. Your just like fuck this I'm going to go buy a 10 because I can. It's not exactly the same but you know what I mean
/r/seduction22/06/18 04:44 AM
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With what I call direct humor. They are basically a string of one liner jokes that are similar to pickup lines but you are only trying to get laughs and show that you are interested but be misleading at the same time. It's better if I just give you examples. Wow you look really really just unbelievably happy. Do you always wake up like this, just ready grab the day by the balls. Your boyfriend must must bring you a lot of pleasure every morning before he goes to work. Unless he doesn't have a jo…
/r/seduction22/06/18 04:41 AM
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When it comes to sexual tension I try to focus more on kino and what Im doing more than what I'm saying. I'll bring up sex when it's appropriate tho like if I'm reading their palm. If I'm playing the question game then sex comes up naturally and I'll talk about. If you are already in seduction phase then you can bring it up out of knowhere but thats like right before you are actually going to get laid You don't want to seem like a little kid talking about something they shouldn't. I go out of my…
/r/seduction22/06/18 04:18 AM
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Keep in mind that people go out to have fun not to have a regular conversation with a complete stranger. No one wants to waste 2 hours of their short night out locked in conversation with a stranger. Do you really even want to do that? Is that really fun for you? Of course not, so why would a girl want that. I like to converse with my good friends because we have a lot in common and we know each other well. You need to change up what you are trying to accomplish. You should be trying to have fun…
/r/seduction22/06/18 03:49 AM
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BJ for sure lol. Na you say goodnight. The fuck?
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:55 AM
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Definitely do him a favor and tell him. Just be light hearted about it and you can even tease him quite a bit lol. Then say lets practice. If you have a problem being up front about kissing then imagine having sex lol. You guys are adults, I'm sure you can talk about how he sucks at kissing.
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:53 AM
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Beat them by having solid game. Good inner game, outter game and lifestyle game is what really matters
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:49 AM
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Lol yeah I know right. It works so well tho haha
/r/seduction21/06/18 06:44 PM
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I have to disagree with you. Tom Ford wears a suit everyday regardless of the setting for the most part and I don't think anyone would ever accuse him of wearing a suit incorrectly. In fact I think he wears the same kind of suit everyday. From my own personal experience when I wear a suit in a setting where no one else is wearing a suit or would think to wear a suit, that's when suits are the most powerful. You can only wear a suit wrong if you chose the wrong suit. I have endless stories of how…
/r/seduction21/06/18 08:30 AM
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That sounds pretty dam dope bro. I always liked the pink. I honestly dont have a real go to out fit because I switch it up a lot but my style is always pretty simple really. I'll wear something like an all black three piece suit with a green shirt and a dope tie to match. Then I'll throw on a black feather boa or something that just makes me stand out in a crowd.
/r/seduction21/06/18 07:46 AM
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Oh it will work. An immature low life still looks better in a suit then not in a suit and that's just a fact. My brother was telling me this shit for years but I just ignored him. I was like my style is dope I just don't care about suits like that. I went out one time wearing one of his suits and I threw all my other clothes in the trash after that. Suit game for life and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
/r/seduction21/06/18 05:30 AM
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Oh that makes since. I personally love the old stuff. Still works just as good as always in the US, at least for me it does. What are you doing in China?
/r/seduction21/06/18 04:17 AM
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There's a lot of ways to open a set and it depends on the circumstances. But a basic opener that I use when its quiet enough to talk and the set is stationary would be. "Hey, I can only stay for a second but do you think its cheating if your girlfriend kisses another girl?" That's it then I just chat them up and go from there. You should really read some pua books to learn tho because just know what to say real quick is hardly going to actually help you if you don't know what to do next.
/r/seduction21/06/18 03:08 AM
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The more you text the sooner you blow yourself out.
/r/seduction21/06/18 02:24 AM
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I always preach about wearing suits. Ever since I started wearing suits I never went back. People treat you a lot different. Calling me sir and shit but little do they know I'm a degenerate and I'm immature lol. Just kidding, but seriously, they make a great first impression. Suits are designed to make you look as attractive as possible, take advantage. Suit game for life!!!
/r/seduction21/06/18 02:23 AM
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House parties are my absolute favorite but I wasnt really counting that or things like bonfires or BBQs because those girls are just extensions of my social circle. I was really referring to cold opening. The thing about bars and clubs in the middle of nowhere is that there usually just isn't that many hot girls. The chances that you come across a dime is slim to none. Plus you end up running into the same girls over and over. When I lived in Alaska I had a great social circle of lots of hot gir…
/r/seduction21/06/18 01:25 AM
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High fives are great
/r/seduction20/06/18 01:26 AM
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Sometimes you can just get really into pickup and it kind of consumes your life. If you hangout with guys that don't really care then you just aren't going to be on the same page. I just wouldn't pick up girls when I'm around them if it bothers them or just hang out with other people for a while
/r/seduction17/06/18 05:12 PM
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Day game is brutal. It takes a lot of time, effort and skill to pull it off at a low level. I personally just don't find it to be that fun either. I personally love night game but it does fit my personality. I have a hard time believing you will have more success during day game if you are struggling with nighg game but I could be mistaken. Just be prepared to put in a lot of time and effort to see any results. If you don't have good night game locations that could suck tho
/r/seduction17/06/18 05:06 PM
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You are basically defeating yourself before you even try. Girls can sense the low confidence and self esteem. If you think the way you currently do then your actions are going to follow that train of thought. You have a lot to work on because you don't have any inner game or outter game. You need to teach yourself these things. But first you have to rid yourself of all the false beliefs you h ave filled your head with. I'm not going to lie, it's going to be tough man. But you can do it
/r/seduction16/06/18 01:32 AM
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There's a million techniques that help with AA but a lot of it stems from not understanding what to do or say. This is where outter game helps the most. If you don't have a good idea of how an interaction is suppose to play out from beginning to end and what you need to do for it to play out like that then you are going to feel a lot more AA. Imagine going up to give a speach but you don't even know the topic you are suppose to give a speech on, you didn't practice giving speaches and you have t…
/r/seduction15/06/18 07:05 PM
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You shouldn't have told her you are interested in her like that. You want her to think "is he interested in me?". You want her to chase you. Talk to other hirls and use her to help you get other girls. As soon as you do that she will be all over you. Oh and you should probably learn some game or its not going to be easy getting other girls and you will just look even worst to her because you don't have any options. You clearly don't understand the basics of attracting women right now so learn th…
/r/seduction15/06/18 06:54 PM
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I roll off girls like that. I'm looking for fun not drama. If they get too dramatic then I just roll off plain and simple
/r/seduction15/06/18 06:50 PM
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There's inner game, outter game, and the one that goes unnoticed most of the time is lifestyle game. Most of the time girls rely on guys for entertainment. If your lifestyle is really boring then only a really boring girl will want to be a part of it. Also if you arnt the kind of person that makes doing pretty much anything fun then girls will most likely want to look for a more exciting partner. Girls rarely know how to generate fun on their own so it's a big deal to have a fun interesting guy …
/r/seduction15/06/18 06:46 PM
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Na you're straight. Obviously you want to look as good as possible by hitting the gym, wearing nice clothes and being well groomed but you are plent good enough looking. Usually the case with guys like you is you never had cute girls in your social circle. 99% if people date someone in their social circle. What you have to do is cold approach women in a skillful manner. Most guys are prone cold approaching like 20 girls their entire lives while guys like me can easily approach 20 girls in a sing…
/r/seduction15/06/18 06:30 PM
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Just laugh about it and say pineapples is she gets to rough. Tell her it your safe word so she doesn't end up biting off one of your lips lol
/r/seduction15/06/18 06:19 PM
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I mean it depends where you are going out. Where do you live? I'll go bar hoping and stuff but if you want quality women you have quality game snd you have to hit up stuff like high end cocktail bars and lounges. Nice clubs that have strict dress codes snd rooftop bars and anywhere classy women go at night. If you are going to some shitty dive bar then I'm sure the women suck and not in a good way
/r/seduction15/06/18 03:06 AM
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Secrets of speed seduction might be what you are looking for
/r/seduction15/06/18 02:18 AM
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Night game for life. Online sucks. Grocery stores are awesome tho
/r/seduction15/06/18 02:15 AM
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I agree that you should work on inner game. But it takes a lot of time to master inner game so you shouldn't wait until you master it to learn outter game. Learning outter game is still a very useful tool to learn better inner game. You should learn both as much as possible. Neither should be neglected. You should try to be happy and you should have respect for yourself and be a confident person. You should know that being needy is bad and that you don't need validation and you should try to be …
/r/seduction14/06/18 10:57 PM
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Actually they are both great examples of remaining indifferent. They dont allow their emotions to be affected by other people. For example if Brand is challenged by a girl on a talk show he doesn't get the least bit upset. He just negs her right back and keeps on joking and being how he wants to be. Being indifferent is about being in control of your own emotions. You don't get upset or flustered even when a girl is acting like a complete bitch. It's not about standing to the side or not being e…
/r/seduction14/06/18 10:22 PM
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I really am good but I can't just pick up any girl, especially not in day game. Although sometimes I really do feel like I can. I thrive doing night game but I'm going to do some day game again when I have the time. And yeah looks can get you laid but my buddy is a straight 10 and it's not nearly as easy for him as everyone seems to think. He actually gets pretty pissed off at the fact that people think he should just be able to easily get laid lol. I mean I have to do all the work and then serv…
/r/seduction14/06/18 05:14 PM
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Yes
/r/seduction14/06/18 03:51 AM
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Oh and tips would be to esculate kino. Basically touch her more. You can really get away with being as playful as you want as long as you are making eye contact and esculating kino properly. Its more important to show interest with your touch than it is your words. I just read someone write be indirect with your words but direct with your touch. I totally agree with that.
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:27 AM
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The Mystery Method. Tha Natural by richard la ruina Mode 1 I can't remember the names of most of the books I read so those definitely stand out for me
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:24 AM
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Well I appreciate you being straight up with me.
/r/seduction13/06/18 11:15 PM
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Uwww yes. That's exactly right!!!
/r/seduction13/06/18 10:12 PM
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Those things are true and very important. But they take a very long time to develop. Outer game allows you to have a lot of experiences that can help you while you develop those other qualities. I think you might not be realizing how quickly you tend to learn some of those lessons by practing outter game. You only get real truth threw experience. Think about what kind of path you had to walk to discover those things. You had to walk that path and others will have to walk it as well. Do you think…
/r/seduction13/06/18 10:11 PM
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It's no joke, if I was going to lie then why wouldn't I just tell you my lay count is much higher. I don't need to sleep with a bunch of individual women to have a lot of game. You said numbers dont matter but you are saying it does matter lol. Which is it? You see you guys are viewing this whole thing all wrong. You think having 3 threesomes with 6 different women is awesome. I think having 1000 threesomes with 2 different women is awesome. I think having amazing sex that I'm sure you don't eve…
/r/seduction13/06/18 09:47 PM
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Well said
/r/seduction13/06/18 04:29 PM
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But I have a lot of experience. My lay count is extremely mis leading I assure you. I've literally turned down more four somes then my total lay count. If Im going to be completely honest I've always had this weird thing where I just want to get girls to want to sleep with me, then I don't let them. I know it sounds really weird because it is weird but it's not that I'm afraid of having sex with them or intimacy problems or any of that stuff. The best way I can explain it is it turns me on and i…
/r/seduction13/06/18 04:28 PM
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