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Question For MenAGalWithThoughts/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:33 AM
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Flexing on the haters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:36 PM
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"All you gotta do is thrust" - men who don't know where the clitoris is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:33 PM
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I don't think high earners and heavily motivated men are on here. I think it's 20s-30s dudes who just want to circle jerk about why women are the reason their lives suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:31 PM
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The way top stop them from failing is through communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:22 PM
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Then why comment? Do you not understand how algorithms work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:13 PM
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Why do you assume older women are less "agreeable" than younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:11 PM
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overtly communicating anything going to fix things? Tell me you've never had an adult relationship without telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:09 PM
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Useless bitter comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:08 PM
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Do you think she listed all her life skills or she's making a point? Did you pull a muscle with that reach?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:07 PM
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agreeableness Lack of wisdom and easy to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:03 PM
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They assume they're temporarily embarrassed millionaires and by the time they're 40, they'll have all the money in the world and be so attractive to all the young women, despite literally no chance of that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:02 PM
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Only when the sex was bad/boring. It's not an issue of how long you've been having sex. Women check out when the men stop caring about foreplay, stop caring that she's into it, or insist upon it when she's not in the mood. If you want the woman to do all the giving and think foreplay is all about getting you hard, she's going to get bored. If you don't go down on her or make sure she's turned on, yeah she's going to starfish. My marriage doesn't have that problem and we have sex daily (or more).…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:56 AM
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They won’t hear that because it would assume they have the humility to understand an experience outside their own brains. They really don’t get they that women and men are different (unless it’s to vilify us)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:44 AM
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Emotional intimacy. Connection, trust, fondness. You can be physically intimate with a complete stranger, but women often require more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:38 AM
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Disagreeing with you doesn't make me stupid and resorting to insults doesn't make you smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:12 AM
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Yes, we love it with a connection. Meaningless sex is nothing but risk and awkwardness. Hilarious that a man is telling me what most women love 😂 And I think you're thinking of it all too logically. A woman isn't going into a relationship like, "yes, I will barter one pussy for one month of commitment". You're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:01 AM
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PPD: All women who sleep around are whores and sluts. If your n-count is above zero, you are literally a disgusting prostitute Me: Maybe men not sleeping around is a good thing too PPD: You fucking bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:17 AM
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Rude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:05 PM
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We shouldn't reward that kind of behavior 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:24 PM
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Women want good communicators and listeners, not promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:34 PM
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Being used for free sex by men who refuse to get better at female pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:07 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:38 PM
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You know a lot about someone you claim to not care about.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:19 PM
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It really do be like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:02 PM
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Jealousy, inferiority complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:52 PM
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I made a post saying that if men are going to judge our N-counts, call us sluts and whores, and assume we're bad partners for daring to have sex before knowing them, than we should simply lie (assuming we don't have STIs that can cause harm). My premise was that a woman's past isn't a fair indicator of her values, people change, and if men insist on judging us for something we can't change, just don't tell them the truth. People commented that I was an awful, horrible, disgusting menace to socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:39 PM
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Hmm, that all makes sense. I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:35 PM
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Who is “me”? You and your imaginary/only friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:31 PM
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Nah, I just have functioning eyes and a brain. The amount of time women are called sluts, whores, amoral, lacking virtue… That’s not a straw man, that’s verbatim dude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:42 PM
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Sometimes Mr. Tall Handome Stud is hot on the inside, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:01 AM
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I can admit when I’m wrong 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:56 PM
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Do iiiiit. Just make sure the pet isn't identifiable because psychos on this app will doxx you as soon as they can lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:22 PM
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I did! The other one was mostly randomly generated 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:15 PM
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They make and lose friends quickly. The majority of people will eventually recognize and brush off the toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:42 PM
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If y'all want to go jerk off into a bucket, idgaf. But I've seen plenty of posts that talk about male sexlessness as if it's a community problem to solve, and it isn't. "Oh no, the mens will get violent and shoot up schools if they don't have a vagina to masturbate with!" Okay, put those men in jail. There. Community problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:02 PM
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This rhetoric as sex being a "need" for men is often accompanied by some truly creepy talk about "biological urges" and "testosterone blah blah" which all sound like a dog whistle for men feeling entitled to act like creeps or sex-crazed perverts based on biological, animalist desires. If you're an animal, you need to be in a cage. The rest of us in society can and should control our urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:48 PM
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What a sad view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:45 PM
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Lmao at you thinking rapists get decades in prison. Some rapists are out within months. Most never get convicted at all. False rape accusations are incredibly rare when contrasted with actual rape. So you having that ignorant "I'd rather be raped" stance is extremely disrespectful to the millions of women and girls who are actually raped, compared to the handful of men who are serving time for a rape that they didn't commit. But also, this tells me you have no concept of how awful rape is. The t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:45 PM
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If crimes are unreported this is 100% the victims fault. Fuck off. Crimes go underreported because the police don't take them seriously, rarely prosecute, put the burden of proof exclusively on the traumatized woman, never process rape kits, and a million other reasons. You blaming the victim makes you trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:49 AM
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You equating the absolute devestation and bodily destruction of a woman during rape to a man having false rumors spread about him (with many invariably coming to his defense) is why this isn't a conversation. Men are terrified of false accusations, but literally don't give a solitary fuck about the horror and trauma of what rape actually is. False accusations are horrible and should be prosecuted (and are prosecuted) but the amount of false accusations relative to actual rapes and assaults are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:46 AM
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Only 310 out of every 1,000 sexual assaults are reported to police. That means more than 2 out of 3 go unreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:19 AM
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False accusations account for 3% of reports, a huge amount of rapes are never reported, so remember that for ever 3 false reports, there were at least 97 lives destroyed by actual rape, and acting as if false reports are as devastating and damaging as actual rape is laughably insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:18 AM
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-incel-pleads-guilty-plotting-mass-shooting-women/story?id=91388041 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-61472480 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/us/mass-shootings-misogyny-dayton.html https://www.malesupremacism.org/publications/the-incel-rebellion-movement-misogyny-delivers-another-massacre/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:12 AM
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It isn't demonizing men to point out trends. You can understand why people do bad things but it doesn't negate the harm that is done. And I disagree that all men are demonized when mass shooters go on rampages. Even horrific serial killers are seen as anomalies, despite them being mostly male. Women aren't afraid of rapists and murderers because of mass shooters and Ted Bundys, we're afraid of rapists and murderers because the majority of us will be assaulted at some point in our lives, and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:10 AM
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I wasn't the one who said shooters were incels, that was Hazy. And, in fact, a significant number of mass shooters have self-identified as incels, so argue with them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:05 AM
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Also the OPs point is rigth. You will always assume a random guy to be potentially a serial rapist or a murderous criminal, but never a genius scientist or a top class athlete despite the odds being similar. That was literally the comparison being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:43 AM
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A 2013 study found that rape may be grossly underreported in the United States.[2] Furthermore, a 2014 study suggested that police departments may eliminate or undercount rapes from official records in part to "create the illusion of success in fighting violent crime".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:41 AM
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Don't you dare! Height I feel like is entirely overblown by men. But I'm neither short nor a man so I will concede that maybe they really are just in the trenches and none of us can see it because they are so small.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:34 PM
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You don't think ugly losers are out here trying to manipulate women or coerce them into sex? Have you seen TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:15 PM
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I, a woman, agree with all of these and have followed them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:14 PM
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I responded to Zaddy but I'm copying it here because I want double the downvotes Like you know that women like tall guys, but you didn’t know that it mattered THAT MUCH, Disagree with this one. It matters, but not as much as they think it does. Most women want a man marginally taller than them, which should not be too hard to attain. A few women will want grossly tall men and will refuse to settle for less. They can either work to find it or die disappointed, idc. But the majority simply want "s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:10 PM
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Like you know that women like tall guys, but you didn’t know that it mattered THAT MUCH, Disagree with this one. It matters, but not as much as they think it does. Most women want a man marginally taller than them, which should not be too hard to attain. A few women will want grossly tall men and will refuse to settle for less. They can either work to find it or die disappointed, idc. But the majority simply want "slightly taller than me." You know that women like hot guys, but you didn’t know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:09 PM
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If #metoo affected your sex life, you should re-evaluate your approach to sex. Dating apps are a curse, especially for men but women too Porn is likely the cause of literally untold damage on men and women psychologically, not even to mention the fact that it's literally built on trafficking and exploitation Yeah, the economy is bad for everything and I agree it's the biggest factor. Why is "sexlessness" for men a problem to be solved? Isn't the point that women are all sluts and should stop hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:59 PM
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I don't care what men find attractive, I care that they don't go around calling us sluts and hoes for not abiding by how their peepee feels about how sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:15 PM
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Good for you! I still think prostitution, especially in developing countries, is abhorrent. But I'm glad you found... healing I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:52 PM
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Well, I can't speak to that. I do think a lot of guys want to make excuses for not being "datable" but don't want to hear the solutions, which are often: work on your fitness and social skills, have a career you are passionate about, stop jerking off and playing video games 24/7. But I also feel like women are often more likely to internalize their single-ness as a weakness whereas men externalize their singleness as a societal problem (or, more often, the fault of women).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:40 PM
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I don't disagree with you, but it's a real move to be like, "wives aren't prostitutes because I fuck prostitutes so I know the difference."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:32 PM
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My husband is my John and I'm upping my rates, he better get on LinkedIn because this hoe is getting expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:15 PM
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Look, I can cherry pick sources too!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:11 PM
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Accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you of not reading your massive post is weak sauce. My point stands: you're not actually saying anything worthwhile. What are you advocating for? Men to avoid marriage because it personally offends you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:10 PM
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My husband was not a virgin but is against casual sex. He doesn't hold my past against me, nor did I engage in tons of casual sex before I met him (though I was in several LTRs). He would not have respected me if I had sex with him early in the relationship, nor would he have pushed that on me for various reasons. It might have been different had my husband had such a strong drive to sleep with someone very early in the relationship, but he simply wouldn't be my husband now had that been the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:06 PM
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This is a bunch of cherry-picked generalizations and assumptions mashed together to create a weak narrative tbh. You have no idea why people get married, why they divorce, and anything in between. Most of the wealthiest men in the world inherited their wealth or were given upbringings that allowed them to increase generational wealth. So, okay, say your extremely long premise is right and marriage is a form of prostitution. Who cares? How does this change anything? Are you advocating against mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:03 PM
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Yeah, preferences and standards are fine. I never said they weren't, we all have them. A guy calling women "sluts" and "whores" for not adhering to their standards is shit. Guys having standards for women they don't hold themselves to and then moralizing those standards but only for women is shit. A woman calling a short guy "gross" or "ugly" for his height is shit. A woman acting as if a guy is a creep or loser for not paying for her dates is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:49 PM
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Ah so... "flair doesn't check out"? That would make more sense lol. And would also be a stupid thing to think. But thanks for explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:46 PM
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You wouldn't feel very validated and appreciated if you found out your partner did more for his previous girlfriends than he does for you. It will make you feel like they were more important to him. They must have been, because he offered them more than he is offering you. This is what you're not understanding, though. I didn't do "more" because I had sex earlier. It isn't a prize to hand out, it's a relationship. It's intimacy. I didn't give one guy a gold star and one guy a bronze star. Say I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:33 PM
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Title gore. I can't really surmise what you're saying because it doesn't really make sense but I'll do my best. I think women are generally socialized to be nicer and more agreeable to everyone, whereas men can and often do get away with being, at best, vaguely polite and at worst, cold towards strangers. Women have a common saying amongst each other, that you can tell a 'good man' because he is kind to those who he isn't trying to sleep with or get something from (i.e. waiters, children, animal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:50 PM
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Until you can debate without making personal attacks, I’m no longer responding to any of your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:28 AM
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Sounds like you assume a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:46 AM
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An*
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:57 PM
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I don’t see the majority of men doing that much to plan dates or be romantic, tbh 😬 even when a guy was reeeeally into me, his idea of a romantic date was trying to get me to come to his house and cook for him 😂 I’m kidding, kinda, but I low key don’t think most guys are putting in the effort you think they are. Which, hey, if you’re doing that, A+ to you. But even my far more attractive friends constantly tell me that men out here literally are not interested in even trying to be romantic on da…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:42 PM
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Aww why did you delete it? It was great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:32 PM
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I don't think men are "simping" as much as people tend to think. Sure, maybe, for IG models and TikTok girlies but for regular women? Doesn't happen that much. Also, men are already withholding. They'll do exactly what OP is describing and play "hard to get", particularly when they aren't interested in that girl beyond attention and sex. I don't think the answer is playing more games and making dating worse and more confusing. If men want women to be more transparent and honest, the answer is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:19 PM
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One of the few times I disagree with you 💔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:04 PM
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Women aren't "playing hard to get", they just don't like you. A woman will make time for a man she's interested in. She will text back a guy that gives her butterflies. If she's giving you mixed signals, it's because she isn't that interested and either hopes you'll lose interest to avoid confrontation, or is keeping you around for entertainment and validation. I doubt either of those decisions are conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:02 PM
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Female communities, the ones I'm part of, are closed by design. Discord groups, Facebook groups, DMs, Slack communities, etc. If they aren't exclusive, they get overrun by men who engage in bad faith. It's hard to ask for feedback when there are men lurking around, ready to doxx or insult you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:33 PM
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I don't associate with people who would call themselves "bad boys"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:14 PM
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All I have are my personal accounts, I don't presume to speak for all women. But I also feel like you're attempting to invalidate my observations about my own communities based on assumptions you've made about, like you said, an entire population. Why are your assumptions about that population more valid than my lived observations of those communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:49 PM
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Then don't date most women :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:36 PM
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Look at your comments, you literally never asked a question. Should I make up a question and answer it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:25 PM
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now answer the question You never asked a question, and I don't "owe" you an answer for anything just like a woman doesn't owe a man sex for 10, 20, 500 dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:16 PM
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Equating paying for dinner to "deserving" sex is your first problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:14 PM
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So people without children shouldn’t have to pay into the pension plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:11 PM
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But men value women who aren’t easy/sluts, right? For long term commitment. They don’t respect women who are easy/slutty. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support casual sex as it doesn’t benefit women. I’m just explaining the mentality about why women have casual sex with men they don’t care about/respect versus ones they would legitimately see a future with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:10 PM
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Because their experiences and the narratives they’ve been socialized with are different and empathy is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:57 PM
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You didn't use that term, no, but you did say men should "treat them worse" and "shit test" them, so I guess I'll rephrase my question: So did you treat your wife worse than casual sex partners, and do a bunch of shit tests on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:01 PM
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gasp My worldview is shattered. So did you treat your wife like garbage when y'all first got together?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:39 PM
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Hyper fixating on these sort of general intergender mind games is so unproductive and unhealthy. If you are actually consciously considering treating a woman you want to sleep with better than a woman you for a relationship because... you read a post about it by another single dude? Why? If my husband play these kinds of games or even considered this kind of crap, he would still be single. Just be authentic, engage with people and treat them how you would want to be treated, and don't do some we…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:34 PM
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People who play these sort of games unironically deserve to be single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:51 AM
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What would you propose? Forced births? Lock up absentee parents? I don't disagree that these are problems (besides the migrant thing which just sounds like xenophobia with extra steps) but I can't imagine there are any realistic solutions that aren't incredibly dystopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:49 AM
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We're told guys don't respect us if we put out too soon. Why would I care if a casual hookup respects me? But if it's a guy I want to marry, I'm more willing to wait because we're told men "lose interest" if she gives it up too soon and because I want there to be a genuine connection, not just a physical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:22 AM
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I also think the inverse is true. Many liberal men would likely not want a conservative woman, though I think liberal men are often less extreme than conservative men or liberal women and tend to be more flexible or moderate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:10 AM
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It’s so hard to watch. They want to be picked so bad that my second-hand embarrassment goes into overdrive. I even believe some RP ideology but I’d never make my own subjugation my entire personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:05 AM
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I think men are less picky about who they're attracted to but will typically choose to date women who match their value systems. Conservativism is typically the more religious end of the spectrum, so fewer of them are advertising their politics along with their OF because those things don't ideologically match. Plus, there are toooons of simps who drool over a girl with a cowboy hat and an AK-47 who says dumb shit like, "I didn't go to 5th grade and I'm perfectly fine! Feminism is for ugly girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:46 AM
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Yeah the amount of dating profiles that are like, "blue-haired liberals swipe LEFT" is astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:44 AM
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Oddly specific
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:37 PM
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I'd say Seth Rogan is a pretty fair representation of a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:27 PM
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Muscles are fine to a point, but vanity muscles are gross. It's how I imagine guys feel about those HUGE fake eyelashes, extremely spray tanned skin, and other genetically "wrong" features on women. Guys that are super muscular just look like their dick won't work. Skinny guys are equally unattractive. But fat guys look soft and weak and I literally cannot relate when girls squeal about "dad bods." If I have to go through the effort of not being fat, so should you. As far as facial features, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:25 PM
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Aww I love this. I feel like it sounds just like my dude, down to the old man energy 😆 The guys here think we all want Chad but what we really want is a cute guy who likes to go to bed at a reasonable hour and read physics books for fun 😂 Can I ask what your spouse thinks about this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:54 PM
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So true. Someone who is aggressively opinionated but lacks humility to consider other perspectives is an exhausting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:51 PM
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That's lovely :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:50 PM
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I should have! I probably would now but I was too "nice" back then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:49 PM
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Make sure you appreciate her because that sounds exhausting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:27 PM
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Ugh that sucks! 🥣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:26 PM
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(no being rude to service people!) How he treats people he isn't trying to impress is huge and should not be overlooked! I went on a date once with a man who SNAPPED at the WAITER and I died of embarrassment. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? He's not a dog. Never spoke to him again after that. Huge boner killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:25 PM
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Yeah I wasn't asking about women and what you think they think is attractive, I want to know about you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:23 PM
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I love this. Also the distinction between being funny and finding things funny is so real. I'd much prefer the latter because they can be so fun and joyful, but aren't always trying to clown around, which can get old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:20 PM
1

Haha fair enough! No shade, it just made me chuckle. Hope you find your Trekkie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:18 PM
1

That's beautiful <3 The health thing is so real too though. It's crazy how many guys just... don't take care of themselves. My husband is a gym fanatic but he would rather die than go to the doctor for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:18 PM
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Those are all good things. But it's also a little lowkey funny that you had to include that last part. Even when the OP specifically states that physical attraction isn't part of it, you still gotta throw in the, "... but no fatties" haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:14 PM
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Yeah, that's fair. I see the difference. Sexless women are seen as pathetic or prudish, but we're not vilified as dangerous or evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:00 PM
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Women have this same pressure. "You're no fun." "Don't be a prude." "You don't want to be a 60 year old lady who never got to experience life." We get these messages from men who want to fuck us, yes, but also from other women and the media as well. A lot of us have to de-program from this mentality that being a strong woman = being an easy lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:33 PM
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I agree that kids aren't stupid and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to find out at an age-appropriate time (so knowing the age of the kids is paramount to having a complete answer. Adult kids will take it way differently than pre-school). But I also feel like, especially for young kids, they need as much stability as they can get when a family fractures. Infidelity is not just a betrayal of a marriage, but of the whole family. By vilifying the cheating parent, even if it's true and hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:27 PM
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I'm one of those women. I work when I want to but I'm functionally a SAHW. But my husband didn't expect those things while we were dating, and he doesn't put the entire burden of everything on me, which is the key difference between feeling like your relationship is a team versus a prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:45 PM
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Thanks, I do my best! It helps to be with a partner who can hear the hard things and not resent you for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:44 PM
1

I'm not a loner so I'd imagine saddling up with a loner would either mean I became one and was socially isolated, or I did social events by myself forever and that's an unattractive idea to me. It also has other implications, like possible career advancement might suffer because the loner isn't interested in networking, that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:42 PM
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I'm honest with my husband. Sometimes he is going about things the wrong way or isn't listening to my advice about something I'm objectively more knowledgable about than him, so I will sit him down and say, "I love you but you are wasting your time. You are going about this the wrong way and I do not want to watch you keep failing. I will love you regardless but from an objective standpoint, you are not making wise choices." It's his choice to listen or not, usually he does. He knows I'm not goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:37 PM
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That's none of their business and will not support their healing or mental health at all by pushing all the blame on the one parent. The kids didn't do anything wrong, why knowingly damage their trust and relationship with the cheating parent? Do the adult thing. Learn to heal and forgive your spouse on your own without "winning" the divorce in your kids eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:21 PM
1

True
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:35 AM
1

I think MGTOW is working toward the end, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:17 AM
1

So there’s less competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:13 AM
1

Why does that matter to you what other men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:11 AM
1

Just say you want to see my hot husband, jeez
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:33 PM
1

ITT: a bunch of married people confirming that their partner is their best friend, and a bunch of single people saying this theory is stupid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:19 PM
1

Decades?! That’s so much time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:34 PM
1

True, that is a risk. But I guess I mean looking for a person you vibe with as friends when looking for a partner is more important than hyper-fixating on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:54 PM
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I feel like this is just facts, but doesn't take into consideration the risks of sex for women. Women would likely be less choosey if sex weren't so inherently risky and orgasm were more guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:43 PM
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Possibly! I feel like my single girlfriends date down. I think it has to do with who you know and interact with. I saw my beautiful, successful girlfriends trying to make it work with actual trash men and that skewed my perspective, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:26 PM
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Oh I see, I thought you didn't know what I meant by "weight class" but you were changing the meaning to mean actual weight. Yes I agree that gyms are often more male-dominated. I don't think men date down as much as you might, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:10 PM
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That’s not what I meant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:52 PM
1

That's possible! You won't be everyone's fit, but you will be a great fit for the right woman. Just keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:42 PM
1

Thankfully those things can be changed. I would strongly encourage you to take my advice and talk to your female friends. For example, the friend I told you about? He would look so, so, so, 1 million times better if he would just cut his long hair, and I wish I could tell him that would, but it would hurt his feelings unless he asked me. If he were to ask me, I would give him serious advice about his posture, his long greasy hair, his unfortunate clothing style, and other advice that he could pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:34 PM
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hmm, I don't really have enough information to give you solid advice, but I do know a guy who sounds exactly like this. He's very sweet, kind-natured, friendly to everyone, but his confidence (or lack thereof) makes him very un-datable. I even went on two dates with him but I felt like his passivity made me feel masculine and I was looking for a more masculine guy. Sometimes it just boils down to the "vibe" you give off. Maybe ask a close female friend or two if they have any ideas about what vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:19 PM
1

Maybe it's your personality. Are you funny and interesting? Good at banter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:06 PM
1

That's not what an ad hominem is, but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:57 PM
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Yeah and men have done severe damage to my mental health but I don't make it their responsibility to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:48 PM
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Because it's literally contrast. "A fit 5'5 woman is way more desirable than a fat 5'5 woman who never showers." It's literally just contrast, calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:34 PM
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I've had guy friends who went through major glow-ups and had far more success socially and romantically. I don't think many people realize what a massive confidence boost comes from wearing clothes that fit, having a nice environment, grooming, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:28 PM
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True but I did say that women do it too, I just haven't experienced that side of it. It's toxic, gender irrelenvant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:27 PM
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No, I'm addressing the fatalism. Acting as if nothing you do will have any impact on your desirability is what's useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:26 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:22 PM
1

That's fatalism. A 5'5 man who is fit is way more desirable than a 5'5 fat dude who never showers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:19 PM
1

Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:32 AM
1

"It JuSt DoSeN't FeEl As GoOd" - because HIV feels amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:31 AM
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Men. They're the only ones complaining about condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:28 AM
1

I love this because men's mental health is seriously neglected (by men). My friends and I often have to play therapist to our boyfriends and husbands because they refuse to take their own mental health seriously. The more this is talked about, the better and men should be supporting men on their road to better mental health, not always relying on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:01 AM
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I just dated people, regardless of race. It never really crossed my mind as I never had a strong type. I'd say the only race I (white woman) didn't date was asian men but not because I wasn't open to it, simply because they never approached or showed interest (either in person or on OLD). I married outside of my race and nobody cares. And if they do, we don't care about them so it's whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:49 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:48 AM
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If your idea of debating requires insults to be meaningful, it isn't a debate you want but a punching bag. Thankfully the mods don't seem to allow for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:33 PM
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You aren't even debating, just insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:30 PM
1

This is literally an example of making personal attacks where they aren't necessary. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:28 PM
1

Hmm I have never done that, and I am here to debate. Men aren't my enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:18 PM
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Then it would just be a circlejerk, wouldn't it, and not "purple pill" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:08 PM
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I read the book, didn't see the movie (not a movie person). The premise is basically, listen to what men do, not what they say, and don't spend forever psychoanalyzing his lack of effort and making excuses for a guy that, frankly, just isn't into you. It's great advice that many women need. Not all dudes are bad or evil or manipulative, they simply don't like you that much and are playing you for attention/sex/whatever. But again, I didn't and won't watch the movie so idk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:50 PM
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Literally lol'd
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:36 PM
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How is that their victim's fault though? Do two rights make a wrong? And you know nothing of my upbringing so quit assuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:08 PM
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Using people is using people. It's wrong and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:36 PM
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Why? I'm not an entitled shitbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:20 PM
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I'm married so the question is irrelevant to me, nice try trolling though 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:52 AM
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You didn't get anything, I'm not answering your question because it's irrelevant to my post and against subreddit rules to make personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:50 AM
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Yikes lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:48 AM
1

Are you making a general question into a personal attack for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:42 AM
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I've been called a slut and gross for having had ANY sex before my husband. The misogyny is coming from inside the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:41 AM
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Those things would be hypocritical if she judged him as harshly as I see women being judged here. "Ew disgusting man only makes $15 an hour" I've literally never seen this. I also don't think actual women judge men for height/earning as much as you all think they do. Literally all my girlfriends have ever wanted is a guy slightly taller than them, and a guy who isn't a jobless dude who lives at home with his parents and can't pay his own bills. The average woman isn't sitting around scheming for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:36 AM
1

But hypocrisy is hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:02 AM
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"It's bad if you do this thing but not bad if I do this thing" is literally the definition of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:02 AM
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A lot of guys told me they just wanted to be casual/friends and they were the first ones to be mad that I wouldn't commit them seriously. Men don't know what tf they want either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:02 AM
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Many non-insecure want to be submissive but it's rare to find a man we can trust enough to "submit" to without him simply using that dynamic as an excuse to be an asshole. So we have our fair share of unicorn thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:10 PM
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No, I'm saying the same applies for women. Women shouldn't entertain friendships with guys they're attracted to if she's going to become a jealous weirdo if he dates other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:08 PM
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A guy who has an interest in a girl that could potentially lead to a relationship down the line isn't a creep. What makes a guy a creep is when he's possessive, resentful, or bitter if that relationship never materializes. If a guy can't have a platonic relationship with someone, he shouldn't try to be her "friend" and should have the balls to make his non-platonic feelings known, or not waste everyone's time on the fake, manipulative friendship. Same with women, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:58 PM
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What vague insult did I make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:15 PM
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If you aren't a creep, then it doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:06 PM
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Don't vomit your projections all over people and then demand they "answer the question."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:26 PM
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lmao so much projection, I can't even. If you aren't a creep, then it doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:27 PM
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Dude. We're talking about calculating "Nice Guys" that befriend women with the intention of forcing or manipulating a relationship. If this isn't you, you shouldn't be so mad. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:26 PM
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Hot dudes are some of the worst lays. Change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:40 PM
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That's a good idea and I might do that. It just frustrates me that I have to teach a 30-year-old man the basics. He's so competent in literally every other facet of life, why am I having to explain how to fold pants? haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:18 PM
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I said in my post how this has been true of every single relationship I've been in, did I not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:12 PM
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For sure. She's a homemaker who literally lives for her children. I am a career woman who wants things clean but doesn't have 12 hours a day to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:08 PM
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This has a 100% success rate for them at this point lol. Infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:08 PM
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This would be easier if it didn't drive me fucking insane in the meantime lol. I might try this, but I feel like it would be worse to live in filth until he "gets it"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:07 PM
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My husband's mother is extremely clean. It doesn't make sense that he was raised by someone very clean and doesn't understand it, which leads me to think it's a biological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:52 AM
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And he never wanted friendship, only used it as a means to an end. Guys hate being friendzoned, but being fuckzoned (only having friends who want something from you) is equally as shitty if not more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:51 AM
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That's the bulk of it yeah haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:35 AM
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You had me in the first half, not gonna lie. The amount of men who think OF is a legitimate option is staggering, and all of those men are incomprehensibly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:28 AM
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I mean, I personally never met my dad so the pool of people with bad or absent dads is wayyyy bigger than the people with bad or absent moms. That mentality is to be expected until dads in general step up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:26 AM
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I’m not in debt at all 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:11 PM
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Lovely answer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:47 PM
8

Please link your International Womens Day post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:39 PM
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Umm there are plenty of comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:49 PM
2

You could compliment men but I figured that was even more unlikely lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:41 PM
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You’re overthinking it smh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:55 PM
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Amen 🙏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:42 PM
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Let the people enjoy things
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:42 PM
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Come on January, it’s men’s day! Don’t you know that literally every man would eat his left nut for a crumb of validation? Give the boys their day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:34 PM
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Were you the one supposed to draw it? Maybe they’re waiting on you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:13 PM
4

My husband appreciates that about me too lol. No more bachelor meals or expensive takeout.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:02 PM
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B. I can get over the ick of being with a man I’m not attracted to and my attraction tends to grow. But I can’t get over the insecurity of knowing a man wouldn’t want me sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:44 PM
1

Mmk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:38 PM
1

Disagree but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:34 PM
1

Or support each other and lift one another up 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:30 PM
1

Personal attacks are against the subreddit rules soooo I suggest you stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:20 PM
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I can’t even with you. If you don’t believe anything I say, there’s no point in discussing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:33 PM
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Hahaha my husband is very much a man and a great one at that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:05 PM
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False. I’m married and am keenly aware of men’s issues. I can comprehend the extreme loneliness and do my best to “adopt” single, lonely men into our lives and holidays and celebrations so they have a sense of family and community they’d otherwise be sorely lacking. I provide a listening, empathetic ear to my single guy friends as they navigate the nuances of dating. I would never want to be a man because I know enough to know how terribly lonely and dehumanizing it can be. We women are often re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:49 PM
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I chose my husband very very carefully
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:35 PM
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Share your issues without using them to invalidate women and I’m happy to give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:30 PM
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Literally none of your business. I owe you nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:25 PM
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Lmfaoooo my husband is extremely handsome and in his twenties. I guess my personality just made my disgusting, horrendous body count worth debasing himself for 😂😂 or some men aren’t weird and don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:37 AM
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Which part of that information do I owe you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:05 AM

Women can change their approach to sexuality and casual sex. People can’t change their sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:45 PM
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They cheat because of insecurity and weakness of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:39 PM
1

You wouldn’t date a promiscuous woman. How is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:34 PM
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Not necessarily a guarantee but it would be a fear that he feels like he’s “missing out” and may cheat in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:31 PM
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I would assume he’s more likely to cheat in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:49 PM
2

My husband is extremely jealous and I love it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:47 PM
1

Rehabilitation is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:21 PM
1

Attraction is subjective lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:00 PM
1

Both things can be true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:58 PM
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Hope you never get judged for your past mistakes 🙂🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:31 PM
1

Fair. But also people change, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:56 PM
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Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:53 PM
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What is "virtuous" to you outside of some intensely puritanical, religious dogma? I'm virtuous in the sense that I'm loyal, honest, and dedicated. Your opinion of my past or anyone's opinion of my past won't change that, and this idea that women are lesser than or less worthy people because of some past decisions is honestly beyond disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:47 PM
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No it doesn’t. Not anymore than literally anything else you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:44 PM
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Facts and figures don't equate to the real world enough to matter. People aren't statistics, but believe what you want and live your life accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:43 PM
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It literally isn’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:47 PM
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I wear it to make myself feel good, not for approval from men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:23 AM
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I never wear makeup for men lmao. I wear it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:49 AM
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Fascinating! Do you prefer femme guys? Or if a guy is more masculine is that cool? Thanks so much for these insights. I’ve always wondered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:05 PM
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Sorry if my lifestyle upsets you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:04 PM
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Fascinating. Do you worry about settling down with one gender over another and worrying about missing out in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:14 PM
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Lol no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:13 PM
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Do you find that men are generally nicer though? I feel like that’s the rhetoric in this sub and others, that men are nicer on dating apps and put forth more effort
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:48 PM
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That’s not the point of the post and not true. Many of my guy friends flabbed out after marriage and their wives didn’t leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:58 AM
1

Very enlightening! Do you prefer dating men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:48 AM
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You’re assuming emotion that isn’t there. I literally don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:44 AM
1

there are many, many studies about this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:48 AM
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Did I say it was the law? The reality is that most men won’t be able to provide for a family alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:46 AM
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How has your perspective changed or informed how you interact with women? I have so many questions for a bi dude but I don’t want to be annoying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:17 PM
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Nope. There are some lies that are beneficial and cause less harm than the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:10 PM
1

I don’t lie to my partner actually
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:00 PM
1

I’ve been to 8 countries this year and made over $130k. Not sure how I did that when I’m making myself so unproductive…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:52 PM
1

The more time I spend on this sub the more I appreciate being married
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:03 PM
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Men shouldn’t ask and judge women based on it and then lying would be unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:33 PM
1

I never lied, you’re making assumptions based on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:19 PM
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She’ll leave you once she gets the green card lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:33 PM
1

Or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:52 PM
1

He can try and date more attractive women but it likely won’t work oit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:32 AM
1

Women date down far more than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:30 AM
1

It really isnt. My “main” account has more identifying info and men love to weaponize it against me and attack for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:05 PM
1

Women stick to subs on Reddit that pertain to their interests more than just using it generally, from my experience. You’ll see them in MUA, KUWTK, or in subs related to their careers and niche interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:29 PM
1

An important one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:27 PM
1

Every time I make a post about male behavior, it’s twisted to be my fault every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:22 PM
1

I hate when women have standards that they meet 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:21 PM
1

But I did way more than that 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:20 PM
1

On bumble the women have to initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:15 PM
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Where did I ever say that was required? Reciprocation is not the same as expecting them to entertain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:00 PM
1

Thanks! I wasn’t boring though. Like I said, I was carrying the conversations despite one word answers half the time. It sucked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:29 PM
1

You can question the premise without insulting me and my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:27 PM
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We can have different personal experiences. I’m sharing a different perspective than yours, but neither should invalidate the other and I’m not going to call you a liar or boring simply because our experiences don’t align.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:17 PM
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My experiences, my friends, my sisters, many other women online and that I've talked to. Writing it off simply as "my experiences" is just a way to negate my opinion as my personal moral failing and not something bigger than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:17 PM
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That implies that the man cares and listens (news flash, most don't)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:55 PM
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I don't debate with people who engage in bad faith and choose to "LOL" at people instead of actually have a conversation. Argue with the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:54 PM
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If you can't engage in friendly debate without making personal attacks, maybe you shouldn't participate on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:52 PM
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I didn't downvote you, I didn't even read your comment until just now but nice to out yourself that other people have downvoted you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:49 PM
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I'm in my 30s and I could get a dude to my house within 5 minutes if I wanted to. But the risk makes this borderline useless to me. It's like saying "I could order garbage and it would be delivered to my door." Just because I can get it doesn't mean it's worth getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:34 PM
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I'm cold and emotionally distant and have to fight that literally every day to be a good wife to my golden retriever husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:32 PM
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Don't be fat, take a shower, be confident. It's really so easy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:08 AM
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You can forego them and exist in the real world. Or just do your best within the system. No point complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:01 AM
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most women are at least slightly hate men as a group so they have no problem saying things like “most men are ugly” lol what
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:45 PM
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Don't give up on yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:34 PM
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Well, us "females" hate it and you not listening to women might be part of the problem. "Will you stop" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:29 PM
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Thanks for your empathy! That's more than I usually see from RP men so there's hope for you yet haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:23 PM
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But you're failing to recognize that the attention is a threat. Not always, but enough of the time. Getting unwanted sexual tension has an undercurrent of danger associated, because many men react violently or crazy when rejected. So yeah, he might just be giving you inert attention. Or he might show up at your house by finding your address online (happened to me).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:17 PM
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Oh yes, the whole "I'd love to be used and degraded if I were a woman because at least it's AtTeNtIoN." Next you'll tell me how catcalling is a compliment and we should be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:06 PM
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Focus on the things that make you (or whoever) objectively unattractive. Living with parents, not working, no ability to get around--these are unattractive qualities, regardless of gender. It sounds to me like they have nothing going on and will be a clingy leech of a partner. I wouldn't even bother dating until those things were resolved because the person will likely go from being dependent on their parents to depending on their partner and that sounds like adopting a child, not finding a soul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:17 PM
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What have you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:06 PM
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Imagine if the only people who gave you attention wanted to get their dicks wet and then block you. Men are not the victims of the modern dating world. Stop saying females, we're not animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:01 PM
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If you always make the problem something out of your control, then you never have to take responsibility for your life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:43 AM
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I'm happily married, cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:41 AM
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And leaving rude comments to strangers that add nothing for no reason? A busy schedule indeed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:10 PM
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Guess that's how you want to live your live, c'est la vie!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:16 PM

They think that the average blue collar normal dude is invisible in society (which can be true in some ways), but they literally can't fathom that any woman over 120 pounds and 22 years old should be considered in the discourse because she's not fap material.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:15 PM

A lot of guys just won't hear it. All women have endless, bountiful, high-quality options. If a woman is celibate it's because she's a 600-pound stuck-up bitch with crazy high expectations. They don't think of women as living a real, human experience full of rejection and heartbreak and pain because the only women they see as being worth considering are egirls and unrealistic influencers. Women can use every statistic, adjective, and anecdote in the English language and they just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:04 PM
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Thanks for this useless waste of a comment <3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:59 PM
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We have easier access to something we don't want because it's not enjoyable and we're supposed to be grateful for this opportunity, but then slut shamed for it after.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:51 PM
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Sooo ugly guys shouldn't even try? Maybe that explains why so few actually do...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:48 PM
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If casual sex sucks for men, why are they SO INSISTENT on getting it and SO MAD when they don't? Literally the math ain't mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:19 PM
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Attempting to invalidate my point by making wild assumptions about my performance instead of addressing the main topic is not the hot take you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:13 PM
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Oh sorry, should I have posted "hey fellow dudes, how do I trick a woman into having sex with me despite her clearly not wanting it?" Because that's the rest of the posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:54 AM
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I agree with this. Which is why casual sex with someone who doesn't care about you is a waste of time for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:51 AM
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"Let me practice on you so I can be good for other women eventually maybe" No, I've had sex with men who had plenty of partners before, they simply don't care. Acting as if sex is a cello or something that you need to practice to get better at is a way for low N count men to justify being shit in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:50 AM
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I mean, I'm married to a quality man so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:49 AM
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Stigma, safety, and it's just not that much fun lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:24 AM
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An actual empathetic man is a rare sight to behold. You sound married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:24 AM
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And the unbelievable lack of empathy to understand that vaginal sex is NOTHING for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:07 AM
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But the option in reality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:03 AM
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I want to live in this world where men care about the sexual pleasure of female strangers 🤣 😭 It's so funny to me. Most men won't even hold open a door for a woman they aren't married to or related to, but YEAH, Jerry is going to go down on me until I cum the first time we meet lmfao 😂 They REALLY don't comprehend that sex for women is ONLY enjoyable under very specific circumstances, and that's pretty much 1000% incompatible with some random ass stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:02 AM
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Literally everyone is single by choice if they're single. They just don't like their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:49 PM
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Yeah, embrace that defeatism! That will surely help!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:39 AM
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One is all you need!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:29 AM
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I thought I did but they kept fumbling! I dated several dudes like that, one for 4 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:23 AM
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I'm sure there's someone out there who will disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:22 AM
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The first sentence is "I'm a happily married woman." If that's why men don't want to get married, then they shouldn't 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:56 PM
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All sex is lame sex for women because men don't care about the feelings or desires of women they aren't attached to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:37 PM
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Oh did you want sordid details of our sex life? Well you WON'T GET THEM, BUDDY!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:11 PM
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This sub makes everyone their most defensive, least friendly, extreme funhouse versions of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:37 PM
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We met on online dating. I didn't actually respond to his first message because he was intimidatingly attractive. I know that sounds ridiculous but in my experience, super attractive guys on OLD are mostly looking for hook ups. He was persistent, though, and messaged me again, and we started talking. He mentioned how he isn't into hookups, is looking for a serious relationship, I met his family 3 months later (the first person he's ever "taken home to mom and dad"), we were engaged 6 months afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:39 PM
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I pictured myself with a nerdy, chubby, tech-y introvert, indoorsy type. My husband is an athletic, outdoorsy, adventurous, goal-driven, travel type. I always assumed that my partner would be my opposite, not compliment me like my husband does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:32 PM
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There are plenty of male celebrities who are not that attractive if you look at them at face value. Benedict Cumberbatch, for example, or even Harry Styles. Harry Styles is literally mid at best. But they have an air of confidence that make them magnetic. I believe that confidence comes from environment. If you have clean clothing, a hairstyle that works (or go completely bald, if you're thinning), if you have an apartment or home that you're proud of, a cologne that reflects your masculinity, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:30 PM
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I guess my "type" was more self-imposed and self-selecting than an actual preference. I had an "idea" of who I wanted to be with, and that person was not my husband. But I grew up and realized I was wrong. The guy I thought I wanted? Yeah, no. I couldn't fathom trying to have a real, adult, mature, calm, peaceful marriage with that type. So I think it's more a symptom of maturity and opening my eyes to other "types" than it was my type doing a full 180.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:25 PM
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"How dare you not sleep with me even though you are post-wall? I was promised unlimited geriatric pussy but all I can find are women who still think I'm yuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:22 PM
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He wasn't what I thought I wanted in a guy. I had this idea of who I would end up with when I eventually got married, and my husband isn't that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:40 PM
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The biggest dick you've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:39 PM
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Opposite! I was full Team Dad Bod, thought insanely hot guys were mean (based on past experiences). I dated boring, chubby, nerdy guys but they either didn't hold my attention, wouldn't initiate enough/too passive, or were actually assholes acting like Nice Guys. My husband was super into fitness, working on his Master's degree (which he's since gotten), is as into self-development and is as goal oriented as me. We're very equally matched in our energy and approach to life. I don't know what "de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:39 PM
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Aren't we all? 🤔 Not sure if that's the own you thought it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:32 PM
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If my husband were misogynistic, he wouldn't be my husband. Be the future husband your future wife needs!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:31 PM
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And let your haters win? Wack.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:30 PM
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That's during masturbation, not sex. And that same article indicates "To be fair, nearly 60 percent of guys also admitted to fantasizing about their ex during masturbation." So, even more,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:43 PM
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Honestly, facts. If I had found this sub before I met my husband, I probably would have never opened up enough to get to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:30 PM
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Just because he wasn't what I thought my "type" was doesn't mean I'm not insanely attracted to him. And I (and honestly pretty much all women I know irl) literally never think about our exes or anyone we hooked up with, and if we do have a fleeting thought about them, it's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:25 PM
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That's exactly where I was at when I met my husband! I was more on OLD out of boredom and psychological interest, I'd given up on actually finding someone who didn't just treat me like shit for no reason. And then I met my husband! And he's real cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:54 PM
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As weird as it sounds, this subreddit has increased my physical affection towards my husband (just like random hugs and hand holding and butt slaps). Seeing how starved many men are for comfort makes me go the extra effort to be randomly affectionate, and I can always tell he appreciates it. Great advice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:51 PM
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Mental gymnastics? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:51 PM
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I understand the distinction you're making, but to me I think a lack of interest is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:50 PM
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Then why are incels? If porn is so satisfying, why are so many men bitching about not getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:58 PM
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Yes, who will save the men from *check notes* not watching porn enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:57 PM
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It's the lack of object permanence for me 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:54 PM
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If sex were mutually beneficial, men would have it more and women would give it more freely, and you wouldn't have to persuade someone to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:27 PM
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Women rarely wear makeup for men. Let's just be clear. Men are clear about not wanting it, preferring "natural" looks, and saying that women wearing makeup is a turn-off for them. Women wear it for their own confidence and sense of put-togetherness. Women wearing makeup is the equivalent of men having a nice beard or wearing cologne, NOT A MAN TRYING TO FUCK WITH HER HEAD FOR SEX. Those are NOT the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:20 PM
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I disagree. My husband is totally open with me and we are each other's biggest supporters and champions and we listen to each other and hold each other as we cry without judgment. The problem, though, is that so many men depend on a woman they are dating to be their sole source of emotional and mental health when they first start dating that it's a turn-off because it's exhausting. That kind of intimacy should come with time and trust, not just dumped on a person you're still getting to know and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:17 PM
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Wait, are you saying he shouldn't use a bunch of fucked up head games to trick you into agreeing to have sex with him even though you don't want to? And then acts like that's the SaMe As WeArInG mAkEuP 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:08 PM
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Again, that's different from using mindfuck head games to trick and manipulate women you don't know into sleeping with you. These are all false equivalencies. I don't get how you don't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:06 PM
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I guess we just approach it differently. I don't want to do anything with anyone who doesn't want to. Especially something as vulnerable and intimate as sex, I literally don't want to have to convince anyone and even considering having to makes the whole thing gross to me. Lack of enthusiasm should make sex a non-starter. The point where you're having to "butter someone up" just means they don't really want it and you're a creep for pushing it. Board games or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:03 PM
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Yeah, be charming and charismatic. Have good social skills. Those are good things. Wearing cologne, dressing nice, grooming your hair--those are not manipulation. Negging, lying, playing mindfuck games, and other pick-up artist tactics to trick and manipulate women into sleeping with you when they don't want to are different from just being a normal functioning non-disgusting human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:49 AM
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False equivalency. Attempting to influence someone's decision versus attempting to manipulate someone who don't want to have sex with you into wanting to have sex with you are completely different things. If you don't see that, idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:34 AM
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That's not manipulation, that's accentuation. If she photoshops herself and misleads you about what she actually looks like, yeah, that's not good. That's lying and coercive and shitty. Makeup is playing up natural features, clothes are accentuating features you have. Not lying to create things that don't exist. If a man is too stupid to understand that a woman's eyelids aren't naturally purple or something, I can't help him there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:19 AM
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If I have to manipulate someone into having sex with me, I don't want it. And manipulation is inherently wrong, what are you on about? Attempting to exploit, control, or otherwise influence others to one’s advantage is literally shitty, bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:18 AM
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Why would you WANT to have sex with someone who isn't a WILLING and HAPPY participant? I can't even fathom enjoying sex for one second with someone I had to CONVINCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:16 AM
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I've read about all kinds of techniques and stuff to use for when a girl doesn't seem receptive to you, but i'm basically failing all of the time to make it work Sorry but this is so gross. Why are you trying to force/manipulate/coerce women that aren't happily willing participants? Yuck yuck yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:43 AM
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One is a link to a reddit post with cherry-picked data, one is a link to a reddit post linking to the other reddit post with cherry-picked data.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:38 AM
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I don't see your premise as being wholly ridiculous, the only part I have issue with is this weird PPD idea that women don't have to compete or try in the dating marketplace. Where is this magic universe where women don't have to go on dates, have conversations, get rejected, and win the attention of men!?! Like, maybe your analogy is true for the hottest 5% of women, but the rest of women are out there dating and failing and trying and having endless pointless Tinder conversations just like men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:38 AM
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Haha, thank you. I think
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:04 AM
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You can develop your personality by reading books going to therapy building engaging relationships traveling having life experiences helping your community having a career you're passionate about caring for people and animals around you learning skills having a support system based on mutual care learning and taking classes journaling having a mentor or advisor who gives you feedback joining a spiritual community what the fuck you mean you can't develop personality? lol. If you are just a passiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:19 AM
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Literally this times a thousand. Many men don't develop their bodies or personalities because they grow up being told that having a doting wife was the default, because it was for most of history. Now they actually have to earn a partner and they're big big mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:49 AM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:47 AM
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Men don't understand that a lack of confidence is a boner killer for women. I knew a really "nice guy" when I was single. We went on a couple dates but he was too meek and the spark wasn't there. We remained friends after but he was just too weak, soft, passive, effeminate, that even if I WANTED to be attracted to him, he was like a big, doughy, sweet, kind-hearted friend, like Baymax. I couldn't think of him even remotely sexually. Men HAVE to be confident and strong for the majority of women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:42 AM
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Because if someone doesn't """think about""" things we all live in squalor and nothing gets done and we live the quality of life of single men and that will never abide 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:26 AM
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I agree with you in many ways, but I think the accepted implication is that women simply sacrifice more in relationships. We now provide (at least) 50% of the income but we also do the lion's share of the childcare, housework, cooking, and emotional work in a family. So to ask what she brings to the table in addition to the myriad things women bring to relationships is just... unnecessary, IMO. I love my husband, but I do way more than he does for our household simply because I think to deep cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:42 PM
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You got some rage in you, man, and it has nothing to do with me. Good luck with that though, I wish you healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:58 PM
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Hahaha, you are basing that on literally nothing, speaking of baseless assertions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:55 PM
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It's not baseless at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:52 PM
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I guess that's pretty subjective, you're right. I clean my house religiously because it's a big part of my mental and physical health, and I would not be okay with a partner who didn't see the importance of helping me maintain that level of cleanliness for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:48 PM
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But... clean isn't subjective. It's entirely objective. Dirt and germs and tidiness and order are the bare minimum in a functioning house. Would you want a wife who never washes her clothes, leaves food and dishes and dirt all over? It's not that women demand OCD levels of cleanliness (and there are some dirty women), it's that the BASIC level of cleanliness is usually put on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:30 PM
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You have a type, I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:28 PM
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Ugh I feel this. Respecting someone and staying attracted to someone whose lifestyle and general work ethic you don't respect is so hard. I have to baby you AND act like you're a big strong man? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:23 PM
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True, but I think it's those hyper-feminine things that make us feel more confident and feminine that many of us simply don't have the time nor resources to do. I don't think the majority of women do their hair and especially nails because of the perceptible difference to men but because, as a total package, it makes us confident, feminine, put-together women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:19 PM
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If you haven't already, I hope you find a nice lady who likes your nerdy shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:30 PM
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STDs for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:18 PM
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I feel that. I wish I had time to go get my nails and hair done more but that's like, 100th on my list of priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:15 PM
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That's fair! I wish guys were more forthcoming with those interests in an accessible way. When women try and show interest in those things while getting to know guys, they often either don't elaborate (so it seems boring) or gatekeep hobbies to the point where it's not fun or engaging at all. When I was dating, I tried to get my dates to share about their projects and interests but they brushed it off, either assuming I was too stupid or something, I guess? But either way it just made them seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:14 PM
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I guess we find different things funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:52 PM
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Maybe I just know more interesting women than you, because that describes only a small percentage of the women I know 🤷‍♀️ And to act like onlyfans is a typical girly hobby is ridiculous and tells me you aren't friends with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:43 PM
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How does that one sentence make all women hypocrites?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:31 PM
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I really think the masculinization of women is not by choice and very few of us actually want to be "the man" in our relationships. But maybe that's the side effect of equal rights lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:30 PM
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A lot of guys say they will be equals when it comes to cooking, cleaning, and caring for the kids, but their standards of what's clean and what's food means that the woman will be doing most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:26 PM
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I think that's where a lot of the frustration comes from by women in the dating world. Men don't have to be traditionally masculine or provide or bring the "manly" parts of relationships to the relationship because the workforce is more equal than ever. But I think this also effeminates men and makes it harder for women to respect them. If you want me to be the soft, feminine, nurturing woman, but I also have to... bring half the paycheck, clean the house, cook most of the meals, take care of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:16 PM
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Yeah it's a weird question. I don't know anyone who wouldn't be defensive about that kind of question, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:11 PM
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I suggest it. Many women get awful, rude, degrading, and sexual messages far more than they get normal conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:07 PM
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I also don't think "top tier" people care about phrases like "top tier" 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:10 AM
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What do you mean "shop"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:05 AM
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Men put in tons of effort for women they deem hot (aka aspirational) and treat regular women like garbage. Just look on tiktok to see how "average" women are being treated on dating apps. The proliferation of "wyd" and minimal effort culture on dating apps for women is a huge reason women want nothing to do with dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:23 AM
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I mean, no. Maybe in a TRP fever dream, but that is not true for the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:16 AM
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By treating non-super model women like free sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:07 AM
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Then what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:05 AM
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Men drove women off the dating apps so the competition is getting fierce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:35 AM
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If the goal is "getting more pussy" and you're trying to do complicated analytics to explain why you aren't getting it, you're missing the point. If you have to have the hottest women to be happy but aren't interested in trying to become the top 5%, you simply don't deserve happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:29 AM
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