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It’s not, it’s from Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft a recognized expert in the field. Sorry I slipped in the first one and didn’t use inclusive language. I know how frustrating that can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:36 AM
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That's not true at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:47 PM
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Abuse. Abusers think like this. Abusers are not mentally ill or "overly aggressive". They treat other people just fine. Abusers believe they own the woman they are dating so normal rules do not apply. Cultures with gender equality do not experience domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:37 PM
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Only care about violent crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:37 PM
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No 🥰. Men cause trauma and it affects the dating market. I’m not going to disappear so you can pretend it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 10:51 PM
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Yes. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 10:39 PM
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Lots of people besides religions make vague statements. If you have an argument that I'm expecting you to take something on faith, you can say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:56 PM
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Thanks. I never thought about them doing background checks but the on thing that made me really angry is that I was still matched w him so I reported him to tinder and unmatched. They never responded to me but I saw w him again a few days later on tinder and I reported him again and unmatched. Still no response. A few days later I found he had made a THIRD profile and reported him for the third time. Still no response from tinder but at least I haven't matched w him since.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:09 PM
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all men benefit from male violence. This means that individual men don't have to beat me up in order for me to feel like I have to comply with what they say because other men have been willing to beat me up, the threat is already there. I don't meet men in public unless I"m sure that I'm interested in them and that they are a safe person. I still could get assaulted, but I do my best. The reason I wouldn't "just meet" a man I wasn't sure about is he could be anyone. He could start screaming at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:03 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:40 PM
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OK. If car accidents were mostly male drivers running over female drivers, we would also have this fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:04 PM
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Cars aren't sentient.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:42 PM
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It was the vast majority of the men I interacted with when I used tinder. It was like clockwork. Talk to him long enough to be able to find him on google, then run a search. 9 times out of 10 I found a wife or girlfriend and sent her a screenshot of his profile and our conversation. It ended up being more of a public service than me trying to get dates. I eventually just quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:41 PM
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"Even if they're brought to trial the law applies to only 1 gender." 995 out of every 1000 rapists walk free and never see one day in jail. Cops don't take any kind of abuse seriously because 40% of cops are abusers themselves. Men and women have a shared problem of cops being belligerently bad at the jobs we pay them a shit ton of money for. Tinder exists to make a profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:39 PM
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idk google it. seems insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:27 PM
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I don't rely on statistics. I rely on my experiences. I share statistics because men do not believe my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:26 PM
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here's an old one: https://www.businessinsider.com/a-lot-of-people-on-tinder-arent-actually-single-2015-5
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:26 PM
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What is neurotic? Do you not believe that men abuse, rape, and kill women? 6 women are killed by men every hour: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/violence-against-women-femicide-census/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:18 PM
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I have no desire to date the vast majority of men so there is no incentive for me to ask one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:17 PM
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Many men are perfectly comfortable harassing and abusing in public. It’s easier to maintain boundaries before you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:10 PM
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Many wimps date. They do not deserve to be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:09 PM
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I expect if someone asks me out, they are paying. I always bring cash to throw down in case I need to make an exit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:48 PM
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Then you have to balance your precautions against the precautions of women. If you are happy with the current rate of male violence against women and how women act towards men, you don't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:38 PM
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tell that to the men crying that they can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:35 PM
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Most solutions aren't perfect. That doesn't mean they aren't very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:34 PM
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They provide a service and are a for profit company. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:34 PM
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"Our role as protectors and warriors is a great benefit to the lives of most women, but the side effect is that we can often be very dangerous." I 100% agree. Men being violent is the other side of men doing things that benefit society. Unfortunately for whatever reason, it has gotten out of control and there is an epidemic of male violence against women. This is not made up and it is reasonable for women to want to protect themselves. "The key here is to make sure that women are properly red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:22 PM
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Because I have nothing to hide and I know based on crime stats it's reasonable to be worried about meeting someone through tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:18 PM
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"Its actually fairly well established in the circles of philosophy and digital rights that privacy should be protected. Not just me and Edward Snowden." OK. What y'all are missing. rape stats: https://www.rainn.org/statistics DV stats: https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS arrests by crime separated out by gender: https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=1&selYrs=2018&rdoGroups=2&rdoData=c global study on homicide: https://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf "A…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:17 PM
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If a guy is a swinger and you find a marriage license, that's obviously not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:56 PM
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I have no issues w consensual ONS. If both people know its a one time thing, go nuts. If a man just wants company for dinner, great. But unless both people know they are using each other, it's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:55 PM
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And I'm just concerned with women being raped and killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:54 PM
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No, but he can ask. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:54 PM
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What you and Edward Snowden are missing is that a not small number of men on tinder are predators. We know there is an epidemic of male violence against women. We know that women on tinder are regularly raped and killed. It's okay to care about privacy, but is it more important than women's lives? If we can make transparent that a tinder user has a violent charge on their record, how would that not be helpful for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:44 PM
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Yes, using people is wrong. Men who pump and dump and women who go on dates to get free shit from men should be flagged so that people interacting with them know their reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:39 PM
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Trans women are women. No disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:38 PM
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I do usually do the background checks myself and I don't need to pay for them bc I am adept at technology. Not all women are and most women in america are not in the position to pay $40 for every guy who wants to take them out. Those women deserve that info and deserve to be safe. It would be nice if you could just go on a tinder date without being worried about your safety but that's not reality and we can't act like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:37 PM
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That's such a red flag. 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:22 PM
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Fine to have that opinion but a red flag for women for sure. Never met a guy into privacy who didn't end up having a secret wife or girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:16 PM
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Run a background check on me. Peep my clean driving record, lack of criminal history, and perfect credit score. 😎💪
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:15 PM
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Do you mean Hybristophilia? That's considered a paraphilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:12 PM
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There is no epidemic of female violence against men, so no, it wouldn't be sexist. It would be a reflection of reality. Tinder also has a much harder problem maintaining women on the app than men, so they have a financial interest in appealing to women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:09 PM
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"there is no guarantee a background check will protect you from that. " Correct. But it will vet out men who are likely to do that. That doesn't mean it's a safe free for all, it just means you have taken one step towards being safer. "most people who have screwed up have had their life put back together and would never repeat a dumb mistake again" Your opinion goes against the research of people who study abusers. " you only hear about 2% of the people who have offended, re-offending." Do you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:03 PM
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"Yes but that’s not practical is it ?" Exactly. Supply/demand. Though I very much encourage men to opt out of dating rather than dating women they don't want to date either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:01 PM
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Your words suggest you are comfortable with current rates of male violence against women. "And you think that an automated background check is going to change anything ?" It has absolutely saved my ass. When I find out a guy has a violent record, I block him before I can become a part of that record.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:57 PM
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That's fine. I don't want to go out w a guy if he won't tell me where he lives or works. Too many creepers out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:56 PM
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Those men are free to not ask women out and make the exact same conditional acceptance when women ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:54 PM
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Give it just to women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:54 PM
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"Women can take their precautions for not dating violent men without this needing to happen." Current numbers of male violence against women suggest otherwise. 😐 It's nice that you are comfortable existing in that world but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:53 PM
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I mean yeah, they aren't just going to assign someone's record to you randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:53 PM
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What info don't you want out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:52 PM
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It's not entitlement when the guy is the one wanting to go out with the woman. She can set the terms of her acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:51 PM
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"it’s 2021. STOP expecting only men to pay for dates." When men are safe and aspirational enough as partners that I want to ask men out, I will pay. Future doesn't look good for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:50 PM
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This is just male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:50 PM
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"Then no need to do more." tinder is mostly men the women on tinder don't feel safe going on dates w most men there is an epidemic of male violence against women If you don't want tinder to do anything, it will die. Which is fine w me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:49 PM
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I've never seen an OFP show up in the kind of criminal records that are publicly available to search, and I search every man I come into contact with. Maybe none of them have had OFPs but I've seen a lot of unbelievable shit (one almost strangled a woman to dead!) so I would be surprised if none of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:48 PM
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exactly! do a background check on me. peep my credit score. 😎💪
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:46 PM
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Why do you need privacy when dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:45 PM
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If you want to date a woman who has strangled men in the past, be my guest. I'm not willing to date men who have been abusive in the past no matter how much therapy they say they have gotten (none, in most cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:44 PM
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why do you need privacy on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:44 PM
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why would you need to be anonymous on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:43 PM
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most men on tinder are legally married
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:43 PM
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A lot of cheaters have a marriage license. Also a lot of cheaters cohab, which you can currently find out if you have their full name and it's not super common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:42 PM
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The need is that not everyone is good at technology/the internet and can run it on their own. It's not dystopian for women to not want to date violent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:41 PM
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"a big tech company gets to automatize access to sensitive information seems pretty bad to me (black mirror kind of bad)." It will weed out the men who are making women leave the app (most men on tinder are secretly married). And keep people safe from dealing w violent offenders. If they don't want to include charges that are *only* drug charges, I support that, but they will need to include violent charges related to drug charges. "they should give you all of the tools to allow you to do it you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:39 PM
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Should be easy for you to find examples then ⏰
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:21 PM
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We need numbers to debate this. Less than 1% of rapists go to jail so I don’t understand the question. The answer is just barely anyone ever even makes it to the cops, much less jail. Rape is common, going to jail for rape is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:15 PM
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Who is in jail w he said she said evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:13 PM
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Question for women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:11 PM
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No. Many scary boys w rage drive trucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:10 PM
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Who is in jail w zero evidence? We need a specific example. My suggestion is teach boys and girls when they are young how to have a plan for if/when they are assaulted in a non scary, age appropriate way. Having to come up w a plan and figure out who to contact after a traumatic event is stupid. We know stress impairs cognitive ability. We should make a plan before we need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:07 PM
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I, like most women, do not “have evidence”. Tinder can ban the guy and keep women safe. Police will do an invasive test and then leave my rape kit to collect mold untested in an evidence locker for a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:56 PM
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What are you under the impression the police are going to do? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:53 PM
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Ok. I would use it to screen out men w violent records.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:37 PM
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An insane opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:36 PM
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What does that have to do with the question? Do you think I want a ONS w a man arrested for strangling a woman? That’s a real thing I found when I searched for a man I met in tinder. Strangulation is widely known as the thing a man does right before he kills you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:35 PM
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I would love this. When my tinder date raped me tinder did nothing. I would love to be able to warn other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:23 PM
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You think women will choose men w records? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:22 PM
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Background checks are a huge value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:22 PM
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They are bleeding female users currently for exactly this reason. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:21 PM
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How could it possibly be a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:21 PM
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If you aren’t being respected, it’s normal to stop engaging and go elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:48 PM
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Sir, this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:35 PM
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That tells you everything about what he thinks about women. Congrats on the self-respect!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 06:48 PM
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There are a not small % of relationships where it would be negligent to accept things as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 04:34 PM
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100% no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 04:33 PM
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Yup I told them that’s why I needed to be switched. Kept him on staff tho. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 10:03 PM
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I hope you got your money back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 09:18 PM
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I was assigned a male personal trainer at my gym so I googled him before meeting. His public Facebook page was post after post of fat women and him saying the most hateful and rude things about them. It’s so scary that this man is given access to women. I called and told the gym and got assigned a female trainer. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 09:16 PM
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You wouldn’t date a woman if she didn’t provide sex. Get off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:39 PM
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You seem to be under the impression you date women for altruistic reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:22 PM
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Okay. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:16 PM
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Would you date a woman who never had sex w you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:12 PM
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Right????
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 04:29 AM
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This disgusts me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 04:29 AM
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I assume you are the seeker? I’m not in need.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:28 AM
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I have a great job and as much sex as I want. This isn’t about me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:47 AM
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idk its your hypothetical gf
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:52 PM
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Whether or not she can fuck others. Basic mate guarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:17 PM
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So if i hired you and underpay you because you are a young employee and don't know better yet, and then you come to your senses and quit, every single employer you have for the rest of your life is a "chump" bc you refuse to allow them to underpay you and they have to pay market rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:15 PM
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it is exclusive access to her sex bc she's not having it with other people. opportunity cost i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:14 PM
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Right. How is she ever going to trust another human again? Meanwhile all that happens to him is a small percentage of women will see through his "my ex went crazy" schtick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 07:52 PM
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100% they just wish we would shut up and accept current levels of femicide/rape. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 07:51 PM
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So he lied to her and then manipulated her into believing it was her fault. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 04:32 PM
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This is why I’m childfree. 🥰 I may become a foster parent for troubled girls in my 40s 💪
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 04:23 PM
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If it’s not rare she should be happy to share the crime rates that show that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 04:15 PM
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Women’s safety > men’s feelings. This is dangerous gaslighting 😡.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 03:54 PM
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yes they have been outed as exactly this
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 05:09 AM
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absolutely not
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 05:08 AM
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Yup. Still up to it. Gotta trick women into sleeping with you by calling them misandrists if they don't.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 05:01 AM
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If you’re not familiar w vice, it’s even worse than being all men at the top. Google their history w treating women. Becomes a little more clear why they think women not sleeping w them is misandrist. 😐🤔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 04:39 AM
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Because women need to be available for men to fuck 24/7. /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:41 AM
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especially since they don't run articles about the thousands of men with platforms telling men not to date women who have been sexually abused.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:39 AM
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I am 100% positive her editor was a bro who thought it would be so edgy but didn't want his name attached to it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:38 AM
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vice has a loooooong history of sexually harassing their female employees and generally being a boys club that hates women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:38 AM
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They don't care about abuse or that women die from men strangling them during sex. They are mad we aren't making it easy for men to abuse us. That's their agenda.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:37 AM
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I love how they have to frame it as if the woman is following her curiosity because it's so obvious that it benefits only men this is the best they could do and still have it be plausible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:36 AM
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Yes, especially at Vice.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:35 AM
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because men are owed sex from women. -- the bros at Vice
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:35 AM
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Jesus Christ I can't believe we have to defend not wanting to get abused to the publication that hired a MAN who was a DOCUMENTED WHITE SUPREMACIST to run their women's vertical. ​ I hate it here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 03:33 AM
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OK but thats because you can't orgasm. I'm talking about women who are perfectly able to orgasm but don't bc the guy doesn't gaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:31 PM
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my ideal child support situation is that if a person sacrifices their financial security to have a baby with a partner, the partner that is working is benefiting from having a free childcare laborer and needs to provide for that person's financial future whether or not they stay together. The working partner wouldn't be able to keep working without the stay at home partner, they can't benefit from that and then leave that person high and dry. I think this should all be worked out like a prenup w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:54 PM
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*you* say it's a hookup app. Your preferences aren't more valid than anyone elses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:18 PM
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That’s not very much money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 04:26 PM
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Average child support is $475/month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:58 PM
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Oh my god 😰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/21 04:47 AM
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She’s my hero
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/21 04:46 AM
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THEY could be engaged and still try.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/21 04:23 AM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:28 AM
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I’m not the one to teach you what life outside the basement is like. Don’t want to ruin your modesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:16 AM
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How are you disagreeing whiles saying “usually” 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:07 AM
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What is trt?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 01:51 AM
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I wonder what was going on in the relationship that she didn't desire him sexually at least once a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 12:15 AM
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And the woman feels safer both to relax and to communicate needs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 11:02 PM
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I don’t think so either which is why this view men have is so off-putting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:37 PM
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That’s why I said hard not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:30 PM
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Amen! 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:30 PM
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What did he do to deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:29 PM
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I thought casual sex was more enjoyable bc I experienced a man who introduced me to sex thar pleasures both men AND women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:29 PM
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Many men use deception to get sex. Gloating is gross to me too but at least better w this definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:28 PM
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What is the dif between dupers delight and gloating? Both operate on the premise that the man is taking something from the woman, and his skill is to get her to take a worse deal than he is getting. It's weird. I thought hookups were going to be mutual affection and fun and then you don't talk anymore. It's this whole other fucked up thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:06 PM
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True but it's hard to lock down a great woman without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:02 PM
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I agree. I think it's a main reason many men enjoy sex ("convincing" the woman to do it). But that doesn't apply to what you said ^
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:59 PM
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Nope. that's enthusiastic consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:46 PM
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https://www.paulekman.com/blog/duping-delight/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:38 PM
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Yeah not talking about canada
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:37 PM
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There's no good reason he wouldn't want it. There's no "potential downside" because I'm a fair person. I've never had a breakup where I was cruel to the other person. Plus I have plenty of money. It's not like I'm planning to marry someone much richer than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:36 PM
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This should be taught in home ec.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:22 PM
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Oh. After a commitment ceremony?? Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:21 PM
1

"it's possible upon breakup for one party to claim that they were in a common law marriage if they want to lay claim to assets." It's entirely possible someone says that. But that's not what the criteria for common law marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:05 PM
6

If you're a single parent you are working? Men would not be able to have kids then. Only stupid women will get married and take the huge risk of sacrificing their ability to provide for themselves to give a guy a kid. And if they want a kid on their own, what do they need the guy for other than sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:04 PM
1

This isn't a widely known fact. I'm trying to get it out there to help women realize it's not gonna happen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:00 PM
3

THANK YOU. I have literally read every book John Douglas has ever written (the "mindhunter" most our fiction about the FBI is based on). The FBI isn't good at telling whether people are lying, they rely on scaring and manipulating them into confession through intimidating tactics. However I have also personally met a "cold reader" ex conman who shared with me how much he can tell about someone from their body language and it is scary. But I think he has a very rare super talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:58 PM
3

That’s not enough. A quick google is saying that’s not considered common law marriage. The living together for 7 years thing is a myth. It’s more about a couple who has plans to marry and has been postponed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:46 PM
3

No men say that. I’m dumb and misread op.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:43 PM
2

Most women aren’t even in childbearing years so how do you think that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:42 PM
3

Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:40 PM
1

That’s in a relationship. Casual sex takes a nosedive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:40 PM
1

Then you don’t trust actual studies about the orgasm gap based on your “feelings”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:39 PM
2

Nope. It’s not a personal thing. It’s a studied thing. The orgasm gap isn’t controversial, it exists. Communication is a 2 way street. If you don’t know if you are getting your partner off, or you know you’re not, ask (or your a shitty partner). If had guys not be able to cum. 100% of the time I followed up w them and worked on it. I took the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:38 PM
2

Excuse me? Lol. That’s one of the main good parts about sex/a major draw to be in a relationship w a man. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:36 PM
3

Yeah I was most promiscuous when I was suicidal. Lots of hyper sexual people do it bc of trauma, not sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:35 PM
5

Fds 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:34 PM
2

The zoomer girls on tiktok are the moms I never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:33 PM
6

Liberal feminism was women teaching women how to oppress themselves 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:31 PM
1

What pleasure? 4% of women orgasm from a casual hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:30 PM
2

🙌🙌🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:30 PM
2

You mean duper’s delight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:29 PM
14

The statistics on the orgasm gap back up those “cartoonish” descriptions. Imagine ending sex w blue balls most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:29 PM
5

Sounds like you’re too small
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:27 PM
6

Makes me feel like I need to shit 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:27 PM
3

It’s aimed at male pleasure, for sure. But it’s not unpleasant. It’s just not the main event if you’re not coming from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:26 PM
3

Women “know” which men are good and which are bad. Edit: I’m dumb and misread “your own gender says”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:26 PM
3

Wedding ceremony’s are an indication you’re gonna be miserable and get divorced 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:25 PM
2

How will anyone have children or be a stay at home partner if there’s no alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:24 PM
1

I wouldn’t accept that 🤷‍♀️ if y’all aren’t on the same page, break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:23 PM
3

A stipulation of common law marriage is “intent to get married”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:23 PM
2

Think about when marriage was invented and why. It was a mate guarding technique to give men access to ensuring their dna is passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:21 PM
1

No one disagrees with that. Let people fail. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:17 PM
1

Just say you’ve never left the basement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:03 PM
2

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:58 AM
4

Sounds like male reasoning. Never met a woman who was worried about “wasting” resources on children. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:26 AM
3

Every terrorist has a history of misogyny. It’s how many of them got radicalized in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:15 AM
2

So you made it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 03:19 AM
2

What are the ratings?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 03:04 AM
1

men have a temper tantrum if a 6 won't sleep with a 3. That's how it gets dehumanizing. Once they replace the woman with a number, its harder to understand why they are making a human decision and not a robotic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:52 AM
6

It's the same. People are entitled to have whatever standards they want. They don't owe you being available for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:48 AM
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🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:39 AM
42

imagine marrying a man who doesn't go down on you. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/03/21 01:32 AM
2

100% that's fine. What should he do? Be depressed forever or move on with his life and live it on his own terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:29 AM
7

"If you mean the former, then who do you think owns the company that issues your paycheck?" Me. 💪🥰 Casual dating doesn't benefit women, so that's why the cost of attracting one is so high. Probably why men of the past invented marriage to benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:28 AM
3

Sure there is. We can make money now. What are men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:41 AM
1

He still is trying to say it’s meaningful for men to find you attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 11:18 PM
1

Thankfully I'm not in my 20s so I don't have to deal with that because you probably can't if they are sub 25, especially if they are on reddit or somewhere they are gonna get radicalized into misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:49 PM
4

I went to a party he invited me to and he and another guy casually talked about trafficking women in front of everyone. I left and everyone thought I was just being a bitch 😐 I buy my drugs online now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:44 PM
8

College educated UMC women do drugs lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:32 PM
2

It's not taking quality men out of the dating pool. It's taking men who want to buy women out of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:32 PM
8

my broke drug dealer spent hundreds of dollars a month on cam girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:31 PM
1

Thats exactly the draw for some of the men who use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:30 PM
1

Thank you. I was just explaining to a man in another thread why men saying they are attracted to you or sleeping with you means literally nothing about whether they like you or not. ⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:29 PM
7

This is tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:28 PM
19

because we tried casual dating and realized we get less than nothing from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:27 PM
1

On one hand, I don't think it is empowering to women and I hate it. On the other hand, these relationships have much more equity than most relationships so I love it (for others).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:26 PM
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That's fine. It's okay to be hurt by rejection. It's okay to be upset. It's not okay to be unable to manage your emotions and be rude or worse. (It's also not okay to be rude while rejecting people, unless you need to send a "back off" message because they have been disrespectful).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:17 PM
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Not sure how that's relevant to what I said. No I am talking about abuse and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:52 PM
1

OK? That's rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:52 PM
3

I have no idea what this word salad means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:50 PM
1

Yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:50 PM
3

Even if she is attracted to the man. His attention means nothing. Many men will sleep with women and date women they don't actually like. He will give her attention so that she has sex with him, not because he likes her. Men's attention is an unreliable measure of anything, which is why it has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:26 PM
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That's fine but don't make it our problem. People's value has nothing to do with how attracted to them you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:10 PM
1

No one is wondering why men get pissed off when they get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:10 PM
2

No? My point is attention from men isn't flattering to women because it means nothing. Even men sleeping with you means nothing. A man fucked a dead rat on tiktok last week. The only thing that has any meaning is how men act over a long period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:08 PM
1

OK. That's a him problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:30 PM
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I don't understand what you are saying. Men are assigning these numbers to women based on their "value" to men. Men approaching women and sleeping with them is what men value. Men don't value love/relationships and male attention almost never means they love you in a supportive long term relationship sense. It's only useful to talk about men wanting sex bc it's so rare they want anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:29 PM
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🥴doesn't seem like it. I'm 35. I do suspect I will meet someone in 10+ years (not before, as you can tell I am not open to it) but I really have just been too exposed to male depravity to think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:11 PM
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It's an important lesson for women to learn. Men's actions over a long period of time >>>> male sexual desire/words/attraction which is bipolar and has little to do w the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:02 PM
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Yes. If it makes you that miserable, opt out. Dating/relationships are optional. Being healthy and emotionally resilient is not if you want to have a quality life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:01 PM
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"Well, for what it's worth, a man's level attraction to a woman, can change over time." Yes. I know. Men's attraction is literally worthless. Men fuck chicken sandwhiches and dead rats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:58 PM
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then don't poison the well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:57 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=incels+who+have+killed+people&oq=incels+who+have+killed+people&aqs=chrome..69i57.3440j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:55 PM
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"How is she going to have a quality life if her standards/wants aren't being met?" Not sure if you know this but women have jobs now. I provide a nice life for myself. Most men would force me to lower my quality of life to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:54 PM
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It's their own fucked up head games. Everyone has inherent worth as a human being and is worthy of dignity and respect. Anyone who tells you otherwise is worth blocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:53 PM
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Are you under the impression you can't use logical fallacies against an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:51 PM
1

It doesn't bother me. This is a debate sub. You are saying in real life you want to go around bursting random people's bubbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:48 PM
2

Why is it not sustainable? She can have her standards and if no one meets them, she can be single. Better to be single with a quality life than partnered with a low quality life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:47 PM
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Doctors are the worst. I drive an hour to see mine because she is so smart and capable and a great communicator and has really helped me improve my health. And I still take 2 ativans before each visit. When I lived in the city, I experienced constant catcalling and approaches from men. But in more "public" settings where witnesses are around (in a building vs walking down the street) people always open doors and are nice to me. I have lost weight and people aren't "nicer" though probably bc I dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:45 PM
2

Consider why women's mistaken beliefs bother you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:42 PM
1

Why would that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:42 PM
2

Yes. Learning what men think is a great way to protect myself from being charmed by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:41 PM
3

If men approach you all the time, that's not inflated, that's based on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:36 PM
4

"that's why men tend to get aggressive with them." Men are responsible for their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:34 PM
2

It's okay to have inflated standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:33 PM
6

Men should leave women they think are ugly alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:27 PM
9

Thank you! It is ~ CREEPY~ and makes it really hard to see men as normal humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:26 PM
8

Nothing you said argues against what you are responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:26 PM
1

Wow, this is great insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:25 PM
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"I get the vibe that the big issue is the men being triggered when ugly women don't want to bang them" This explains so much of this sub and men's obsessions w rating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:24 PM
2

You are describing the henry harlow experiements. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:23 PM
6

🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:22 PM
13

the way y'all think is so fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:22 PM
7

"now that women have confidence, they aren't willing to accept my lowball offer" 🍼🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:22 PM
11

When you're ugly/fat, you don't even get basic respect like the people walking in front of you holding the door open. This is... not true at all. I was/am fat and most people in public spaces are super nice to me. Everyone holds doors for me. I have pleasant interactions w people in public. It's how men treat me behind closed doors that has always been a problem and is a problem for hot women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:20 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:19 PM
3

"It just irked me she actually believed she was dating 7-10 guys on the regular" Consider why women's happiness bothers you so much. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:18 PM
1

same for women!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:17 PM
3

🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:16 PM
3

Incels hurt other people. FDS keep to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:16 PM
1

not the boogeyman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:15 PM
2

This is so digusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:14 PM
7

I wish I would have known this!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 05:48 PM
4

Exactly. And they know it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 05:47 PM
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Great example of “poisoning the well” ⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:45 PM
13

i mean i grew up in america too? it was def stigmatized in my experience.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 07:37 AM
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I think having cool ideas for your wedding/Bach party is a major way society sells us on marriage. It’s like the only time most people ever get to express themselves creatively to their loved ones and be the center of attention. Both at the event and on social media.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 04:51 AM
51

I remember when going to a strip club was at least taboo
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 04:48 AM
7

That’s called a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:19 AM
10

In your unprofessional opinion as some guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:16 AM
9

Because men won’t reject us. They will fake interest for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:14 AM
2

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:13 AM
8

What are your qualifications to judge what’s “too complicated”? Maybe you have a bad palate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:12 AM
7

Men fuck chicken sandwhiches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:11 AM
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Not one thing. If you pursue men, they will be thrilled. They will love to fuck you and use you for company until they meet the girl they want to pursue. If you’re that girl, he’ll pursue you. If you’re not, there is not one thing you can do to change his mind. Either way, he’s not telling you the truth. He’ll pretend he’s on the same page as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:09 AM
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When men were abusing me this is exactly how it was. They’d do just enough that I couldn’t put my finger on it or call it out, and then when you let your guard down they escalate and repeat. This is why we need to share stories. Abusers benefit from our silence. 😢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 02:17 AM
51

This is the only time scrotes have ever cared about romance.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 02:16 AM
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I 100% agree
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 02:15 AM
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“More dates” This is what men care about. They don’t gaf about you as an individual woman until proven otherwise.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/21 01:55 AM
2

Oh I am w you. I’ve been told by men on here every guy I’ve ever slept w was chad even when he was poor, ugly, fat, etc. it’s just a meaningless word. No matter what I say it’s my fault for “choosing chads”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:10 AM
3

Sounds awful. So glad I don't give a fuck about men anymore. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 02:39 AM
3

That 80:20 study also says women date men they aren’t attracted to at first, men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 02:07 AM
3

Yes? Do you consider women you aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:30 AM
0

Well you're not invisible so we see how men talk about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:56 PM
1

No I didn't? Chads lie and manipulate. They are not disclosing that they don't give a fuck about you or that they are fucking/in relationships with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:47 PM
0

Then why would I have sex w a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:02 PM
1

If men think women want them, why do they pressure for sex? 🤔🧐🕵🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:56 AM
1

🔥😐🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:13 AM
6

The men on here are so fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:06 AM
2

Cool. Then they have no reason to get married. That's fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:17 AM
3

I grew up religious so i was a virgin until i was 24 and meeting a good man to marry was my #1 priority in life the entire time. Tell me specifically how I should have been better. "We men don't owe you anything" I never said you did. I don't think men owe me anything. "We are happy the way we are" I guess male suicide rates aren't a problem then. Good to hear! "We have ZERO incentive to get involved in your emotional baggage." We want all men who call it "emotional baggage" to please leave us a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:03 AM
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seeing men as a prize is dangerous for women and children period
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 07:18 AM
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im gonna guess males were writing those scenes where women were blaming women 😡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 07:18 AM
12

Thank you!!! I am still recovering from the deeply scaring thing this girl told me when I (nicely, obviously) told her I found out she was the gf of the guy I had been dating the last few months and i was his side girl. 😐 This really helped me see that shes obviously acting out of insecurity!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 07:16 AM
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It proves they know exactly what we want and are capable of giving it. It proves that the ~communicate~ men are blaming women for mens actions and they know it. Let's call it what it is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 07:10 AM
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OK I am a clown and ex pick me and i have thought about sending a guy a letter bc he would not answer my texts. I decided not to bc i felt him not responding was a boundary and I should respect that. But the letter I was gonna send was gonna be a nice love letter that he could keep forever even if he didn't feel that way about me. Like it was gonna be nice and with compliments and cute stuff. And a really good painting I did of him. How are we the same species? 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 07:08 AM
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"Why would good men feel the need to try to fix shitty men when women are the ones choosing the shitty men over them? " Why would you fix people robbing homes when people choose to buy those homes. They must have known they were going to get robbed. "How about having some responsibility for your own decisions and not choosing abusive narcissists just because they’re attractive?" 🥴 Because narcissists: lie so you dont know they are a narc gaslight so you think you are crazy for wondering if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:55 AM
1

It sounds like you are describing a situation in which both men and women are happy? Not sure why that isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:20 AM
1

You think someone is responsible for their own robbery 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:56 AM
1

bc 60% of men are sexless and 99% are not wealthy enough to have a child on their own that they can be sure is their genetic material getting passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:31 AM
3

Totally agree. I only date men who meet my standards. That's how individual preferences are supposed to work!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:16 AM
2

So in all robberies, the homeowner is responsible? Make it make sense. I have no idea what you are talking about w the rest of it. But you seem pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:15 AM
3

"You seemed to be whining you had no agency and were being forced at gunpoint to not wear a mask. " Thats your reading comprehension 🤷‍♀️I can't fix that for you. I literally wrote in my post I was thinking about a balaclava. I was clearly not concerned about having enough agency to wear a mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:12 AM
1

I mean... would you be happy if you woke up tomorrow and you were them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:04 AM
3

"You don't get an orgasm out of making out so why do you do it?" Because it might lead to an orgasm? idk I am 35 I haven't just made out with someone as its own event since high school. "Sex is fun even when there's no orgasm" Not for me. That was just something I told myself so that I wouldn't get mad about how fucked up it is. "I don't orgasm from penetration alone " I do and it's what I am most interested in. "I've never had difficulties orgasming from fingering or oral, which I ask the guy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:01 AM
1

Responsibility for what? If I choose the house I move into, am I responsible if it gets robbed? "Frankly, I'm glad women are starting to wake up and blame men, because the less responsibility a woman takes, the more exploitable she is down the road." Dude that's fucking sick. 🤮 Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:58 AM
2

Not sure why you're trying to give me fashion advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:41 AM
2

"And women give away sex like candy to douchebags nearly all the time because vagina tingles." A man fucked a dead rat on tiktok this week. "I got more success hooking up with women when I was cold and uncaring and sending mixed signals rather than "be nice" to them. Why do you think this happens?" Because you are using tactics that mirror how an abusive parental figure showed love to that woman: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693773/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:37 AM
1

as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:35 AM
3

OK. Are they aspirational men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:11 AM
2

Yes. I 100% thought that I had to have sex for a man to want to date me. I thought I would die alone if I did not have sex with men. Not sure what your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:06 AM
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Men have agency. Men choose to abuse and damage women. Why is that okay with you? "no one owes them a nice boyfriend to fix their issues in life," Everyone agrees with you. Everyone. EVERYONE agrees with you. No one is owed a partner. men should not abuse and damage women because it is wrong to abuse and damage people. People have a right to not want to be abused. The whole point of civilization is to be able to work together to collectively protect each other from bad actors. We have police for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:58 AM
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"pushing interracial relationships" Sir... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:57 AM
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"Men are already better," What, specifically, do you mean? Why are you more mad at women for choosing wrong than men for being douchebags?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:25 AM
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If you read my post I wrote that I literally thought about buying a balaclava.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:23 AM
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What? I'm really lost how you got there. "i'm the one picking them" No? Men pursue women. I have accepted dates from most men who have asked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:22 AM
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100%. Collateral damage. When I was younger I gave men tons of chances. I learned that it is not worth the risk for me. "The other side to that is that men who are good at deliberately misrepresenting themselves get to fly under the radar" That's not the "other side" that's the main problem. That's why you have to look 🕵🏻‍♀️for poor character and actively vet men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:19 AM
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Just making a point how Women will choose a guy no matter how abusive he will as long he attractive. Yes. Just like monkeys clung to the barb wire mommies. I think many women are already traumatized by the age they get to mate selection and do a lot of self-harming with men. I know as I work w a therapist on my childhood trauma, i realize how unhealthy a lot of my behavior w men has been. I truly had no clue. "I try to be nice towards Women but they think im too much of a square/nerd" Nice isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:11 AM
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Oh kink being empowering is a big thing. it's 100% marketed that way to women just like sex work is. It's def newer though, it wasn't like this when I was in high school thank god. Yes, FDS isn't the same as rad fems but there is a lot of overlap and there's a chunk of beliefs FDS and TRP share. I think TRP is not going to make you happy though. FDS is like... men aren't going to make you happy so be financially independent and figure out what else you want in life. That is doable. IDK if doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:04 AM
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Sure, if he's hot many women will give him a chance. Then he will treat them poorly and they will leave damaged. Why are y'all not pissed at chads for hoarding women and damaging them so that 70% of men are now sexless and we are unwilling to give men chances until they prove themselves? Why does abuse bother you less than a woman choosing someone else over you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:53 AM
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Because they think they are experiencing an act of intimacy and the guy cares bout them at least as much as you care about a friend you're not close with. That's no longer part of hooking up. Men treat women they have sex with worse than they would treat a stranger on the street. I'm not leaving my house for a date unless the guy is pursuing me hard, planing a nice date, and offering monogamy. 🤷‍♀️ There's just nothing else that would make me want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:43 AM
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100% if it is legal, regulated and we've worked to reduce the % of trafficked women in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:41 AM
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"I think the women generally resent some of the rules placed upon them, but as an overall they generally like it." This has changed w generations too! I read one memoir about Iran and how one generation HATED the hijab bc they were forced to wear it. Then the hijab got banned and the next generation found liberation in wearing it. It seems like its just about the freedom of being able to do what makes sense for you. "I also have enjoyed women covering their faces and often wearing bulkier less s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:47 AM
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One thing to note is that this is for strangers/people you are dating. When you decide to commit to someone you transition into not blocking them because they say one thing, but assuming they have good intentions. You can't assume men you don't know have good intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:31 AM
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Not automatically for being kind. But if a guy demonstrates that he is unkind, he gets blocked. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:27 AM
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OK. That seems healthy? Seems like you're getting your ideas about what women want from the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:24 AM
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To be completely honest. As a rad fem I 100% agree w you. On tiktok today women were talking about how they love masks and are sad the pandemic is over bc they will have to stop wearing them. I relate. I love my mask. I love that no man has asked me to smile in a year. I love that men don't get to see my face. It was a disturbing thought process bc I was like "i wish I could keep wearing this as a trend" and realized I meant a balaclava. I know in muslim countries have cycled with women loving t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:20 AM
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I agree w you. I think we're about to enter a period where men and women are more separate than ever. 80% of men will be sexless and mostly chads and young women will be fucking. After women realize chads are lying to them and they are all the same, they will lose interest in men and age out of dating/sleeping with men. Interactions between men and women will be more and more transactional. More communities of men and women living on their own, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:17 AM
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sounds like transphobia more than preference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:15 AM
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I think a woman is only gonna have one long term FWB partner in her life. After the first experience I'm not sure she will be inclined to try it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:14 AM
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No I have never heard of that lol. TLC is wild. I'm picturing Angela from 90df. Yes I am sure desperate people will continue to do things that suck for them. It concerns me, but it's the bottom whatever percent of people and this isn't my main concern w ways people are harming themselves rn. I assume its mostly men who want non-monogamy. Is their goal a harem of women like angela from 90df? Cause that sounds like what ends up happening most of the time for the reasons you outlined above . Could …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:08 AM
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Unfortunately for us Americans we aren't like Japan. Our boys don't quietly drink themselves to death, they take guns to public spaces and start shooting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:06 AM
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What? There have been hundreds of times in my life a guy said something and I was instantly turned off to him forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:01 AM
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What shit are we "wrecking"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:00 AM
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ok. Share?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:00 AM
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If there’s no benefit to marriage, that will impact how many people choose to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:50 AM
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Their daughters raised in Sweden by a Swedish parent and a Thai parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:50 AM
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Sure. My job doesn’t take 40 hours a week and my performance goes up when I am resting and having leisure time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:49 AM
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There is no benefit aside from social currency for women to marry 🤷‍♀️ Men aren’t providers and sex is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:45 AM
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So men are going to actually become better humans? Sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:45 AM
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He brought up sex toys to try to make a comparison to porn. Men watch porn, women use sex toys, as if those things have an equal affect on relationships. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:44 AM
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“Most senior guys” What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:43 AM
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For women it’s about survival. So men flourish in times of scarcity. For men, it’s about mate guarding, which is why marriage goes down in times of abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:42 AM
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What is the upside for a woman being non-mono vs staying single? Are women really gonna cohabitate w men, clean up after them, have (probably orgasm less) sex w them, give them children for.... what? Companionship? Most men don’t provide that and non mono less so. Sex? Don’t need a relationship for that, or even a man. Children? See above. Money? Yeah if you are poor, I guess. But a non mono man is sharing that w other women. If this is truly your only option for survival I think you’d hold out …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:41 AM
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Then you would be worried about destigmatizing sexlessness in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:38 AM
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Why would women expand who they have casual sex w? We already don’t get orgasms, it’s risky, and now it’s more open than ever that y’all don’t respect or care for women you fuck. Many men fuck women they don’t even find attractive. It’s meaningless for a guy to wantsex from you. Why would that be better than a sex toy where you are at least safe and cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:37 AM
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Only 4% of women cum from casual sex. Why would the vast majority of women have casual sex when they don’t lead to love, put us in danger, and don’t even give us an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:34 AM
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I’d love to know what those women are teaching their daughters about mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:33 AM
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Men are always blaming this on women not finding men attractive. It’s way more about the way y’all talk about and treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:32 AM
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Extreme separation and interactions as transactions only. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:31 AM
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Yup gaslighting is harmful. If the only way you can un-gaslight yourself is snooping, go for it. You should prob block him too, but get that scoop first.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:57 PM
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For the rest of his life he will regret it. Never gonna get a young vibrant woman to love him like this again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:40 PM
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Do you have an anxious attachment style? I do and can def relate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:40 PM
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They have no idea marriage was invented by men to benefit men as a mate guarding technique. He’ll downgrade her and she will meet someone else and lose interest and then he’ll say she’s branch swinging.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:39 PM
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Idk sometimes you gotta go FBI. Having information is valuable. Through snooping I have found at least two boyfriends had wives/gfs and I was the side chick. That info helped me soooo much.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:37 PM
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YOU BEING GOD DAMN BEYONCÉ would not convince him to treat you w respect.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:35 PM
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Wow. That’s so fucked up. When I’m insecure in a relationship I just cry to my dog and listen to Taylor Swift.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:34 PM
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Why would I ever speak to a man knowing this is how they think? 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 09:33 PM
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Wow. This was so powerful.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 07:42 PM
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Think like the way men talk to me on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:29 PM
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When women say “I want a good guy” men gaslight us and say “no you don’t”. Given you are saying women believe what they are saying, how do men benefit from gaslighting us?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:21 PM
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I think it is just psychologically damaging to be with a partner who wants to have unwanted sex w you. I’ve never been in a db tho. When a guy is nagging for sex, it’s always been within a few weeks of breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:18 PM
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If he doesn’t read books in the current year, not back in high school, that’s not what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:17 PM
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I’d rather adopt. 🤷‍♀️ I don’t get needing a biological child. Seems like an ego thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:16 PM
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So how do men benefit from gaslighting us about our preferences if you agree we aren’t conscious of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:15 PM
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Haha interesting bc it has convinced me to block most men irl bc they really do think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:13 PM
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Explain to me why thats my problem. I would rather be single than partnered to someone that doesn’t improve my life. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:39 PM
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You’re right. He is prob indebted to her ugh.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 04:20 AM
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😐😐😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 01:14 AM
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“I consider myself a supreme gentleman” — a guy who murders people. This is why guys get mad when girls say “where are the good men? Depraved men consider themselves good men. They think we want scumbag men. 🙄😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/21 12:03 AM
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Then he will get blocked. Why is that women’s problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:58 PM
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I’m so relieved I’m not having children. I could not deal with this. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 11:24 PM
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Yeah I’m not opposed to that either
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 11:13 PM
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I hope she keeps a copy of this and if he ever cheats on her she takes every cent he has.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 11:06 PM
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Even before I realized I was cf this was always my biggest fear. I became cf bc while I love kids, the risks of something like this happening are too high for my comfort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 11:06 PM
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I feel like him including that his children are girls is sus. 🤔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 11:04 PM
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If women were just "hard to get off" or just "needed to communicate" the orgasm gap would be the same between relationships where women date women and relationships where women date men. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 09:03 PM
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I don't want my boundaries pushed at all. "Yes" = yes. "no" = no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 07:05 PM
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Ah. Yes I think some men think not wanting to go out w a man who doesn't want to take you to dinner is her playing hard to get. But it's not a game, she is actually saying no to the guy who doesn't want to take her to dinner and she isn't trying to change his mind. She is trying to vet him out forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 07:01 PM
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I'm not playing hard to get. Bar is just on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:38 PM
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Yes, it is terrible advice. There is no guarantee a man will stay with you. Therefore there is no guarantee that putting someone else's happiness over you own will result in anything other than building someone else's dream and then watching them live it with another woman. For every woman who plays by the rules and is young, thin, gives her husband children and puts him and her family first, there are men who are cheating on her and because it's the information age, we can see how men treat eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:25 PM
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Nope. Pushing also gets you blocked. 🥰 That's a firm boundary for me. Chasing = ask me out on a nice date. Not pushing, not a "walk date". There is no ignoring "nos" involved. My "no" means "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:22 PM
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I am so, so, so happy for my mental health and wellbeing I found FDS. Being able to make choices based on what is best for me, not what pleases men is life-changing. I had no idea I was so brainwashed and how much it affected my mental health until I started following rad fems and talking to my therapist about my relationships w men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 05:04 PM
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Yes. I am not telling women in the current meat market. He gains nothing by having a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:01 PM
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No. If we're fucking he has no currency left to gain from his dick size. All my friends are married. Who am I gonna tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:43 PM
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Being a good partner to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:20 PM
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If he meets the criteria it doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 07:06 AM
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This girl gives me so much hope for the future of girls!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 05:56 AM
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I don’t understand why psychologists aren’t mass diagnosing women w Stockholm syndrome.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 05:52 AM
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Wow I have the same dream! I was thinking about fostering teen girls or building a women’s intentional community. I would love to be a good provider for women and girls 💕😂 Edit: yes Oprah is a hack for sitting on her money instead of doing shit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 04:46 AM
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Right. Has this woman really never had a guy not respect her consent? Does she not know most women are not so privileged and will struggle to communicate not wanting to be strangled and beat up by someone who is supposed to care for them?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 03:59 AM
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Absolutely. As one commenter on the article said "consent fails women". Consent is the bare minimum and men can't even do that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:49 AM
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Thank you. She is not listening to women when we talk about why we don't like kink. It's great that some men are apparently great communicators and are really good about consent. That is obviously not everyones experiences so normalizing kink within a system that *already* fails at consent is just making life more dangerous for women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:44 AM
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Not only the abuse and deaths of women, but the men don't get brought to justice because they can claim it was consensual and dead women don't press charges.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:42 AM
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we don't allow people to "consent" to selling their organs on the black market.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:41 AM
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😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:33 AM
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I had a friend whose boyfriend was not allowed to make eye contact with me for religious reasons. How was that supposed to make me feel? Is that a loving or respectful way to treat someone?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:32 AM
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Yes. We live in a patriarchal white supremacist world so everything within that is going to be racist and sexist. religions are inherently racist and sexist. gaming is racist/sexist. academia is racist/sexist. There are false beliefs in all these systems that harm women and poc and we need to work to unlearn them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:31 AM
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Tell us more! What don't we know that we should?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:29 AM
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I would love to! what websites do you read?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:27 AM
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especially if they're fucking conservatives. If they mention biblical roles stay the fuck away.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:26 AM
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omg I'm so sorry you had to talk to such a scumbag. Men always tell on themselves. can you tell us about your work?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:26 AM
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That woman is so scary. She said "would you question your daughters gymnastics coach?" as a sincere question in light of thousands of girls coming forward about being sexually assaulted by their gymnastics coaches in the past few years. She still thinks you shouldn't question men in situations where men have shown themselves to be dangerous to children, to women, and to other men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 02:21 AM
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I'm allowed to have preferences. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:39 AM
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I don't like men who think they are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:34 AM
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Men make me laugh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:29 AM
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Then there is no reason for me to fuck a man. I have luxury sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:21 AM
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Then we are looking for pussies. 🤷‍♀️I will take a pussy who respects me over getting pumped and dumped by an alpha chad. That is literally what i am looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:20 AM
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Only 4% of women will have an orgasm during casual sex. You sound like a clown telling women to risk pregnancy, STIs, and getting hormonally attached to these men for NO ORGASMS. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:17 AM
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I am financially independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:23 AM
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Are you dumping money into PLTR yet? I know you want to be wealthy and this is my current fav scheme for being rich in 10 years 😂 (i am not a financial advisor dont invest money you cant afford to, just thought i would share since it is a great long term stock you can buy and forget about).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:06 AM
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Yeah it is. I love kids but it makes no sense to have them, esp as a woman, with how things currently are unless it's truly your #1 thing you want in life, or you happen to have parents who live close and want to help a lot or a great husband that wants to be really involved or are super wealthy. I think people just numb out until their kids are older and then it's worth it. People live in terrible situations all over the world. Dogs adjust to losing a limb in 2 weeks. When something terrible ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:03 AM
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Makes complete sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:50 PM
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That's... not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:35 PM
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" I dont want kids so its really just household stuff. And I plan on hiring help for most of it." Me too. And I'm so happy its the future and I can hire a handyman or handywoman with an app. 🥰 I have dated two poor men who were really put off by me having a cleaning person though. I grew up lower to upper middle class and we had a cleaning lady at all income levels so I did not think it was a big deal. They were both very vocally against it even though we were just at the beginning stages of dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:33 PM
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There are a lot of men who don’t want to be providers just remember that. I believe most men don't want to be providers. I don't think most men realize that if they aren't providers they have to do something else for women because women still do most of cooking/cleaning/childcare if that's your thing/whatever, now in addition to supporting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:18 PM
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So you think less women are financially independent now or are you just frustrated progress is slow?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:58 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? I’m the first woman in my family who has not had to get married to support myself. It is a v recent change and it is still socially not super accepted to be an unmarried career woman. People love to hate on it. Idgaf about my “career” I just like being able to have whatever boundaries I want w men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:41 PM
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It is the worst thing to happen to many men. They used to be assigned a woman to care for and were pretty much left alone to do whatever they wanted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:51 PM
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For me as a woman, it means be financially independent bc there is no guarantee, no matter what I look or act like (bc I can see women who look or act like I would ideally, who are also cheated on or abused), I will find a man who wants to treat me well forever. When you are financially independent, you have options. This doesn't mean more men want a financially independent woman, again, women of all kinds are cheated on and abused, there is no guarantee, but you can choose between what they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:35 PM
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You don't have to convince me. That's what I grew up with. Big time eating disorder from age 5-31. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 07:28 PM
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apparently. wish someone had told me when i was growing up in the 90s w heroin chic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:47 PM
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IDK my experience before OLD was that men don't ask women out much. As I got older I got asked out a lot more (in person and OLD) which is weird bc I gained weight and got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:32 PM
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I was a girl at a non-partying school and didn't get asked out once 😂 Everyone knew I was not having sex until marriage for religious reasons, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 05:56 PM
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This is an adult man 😳🤭😧
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/21 04:34 PM
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Men are so fragile
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/21 04:27 PM
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It’s not even that something so evil exists, it’s that the vast majority of men will defend it being up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/21 01:25 AM
3

Wow I love. It must be a good hobby if this is who it attracts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/21 12:48 AM
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Yes. And when you spend more time thinking about it, that’s the right decision. If he’s hesitant at all to believe a friend when she talks about being abused he is a misogynist. Full stop. ✋ there is no reason to question your friend when she needs support. It’s a private conversation not a court of law. Less than 1% of rapists go to jail for 1 day. Men are more likely to be raped by other men than accused of rape. There is no reason to side with rapists and abusers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 11:29 PM
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No one wants to fuck a slob
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 11:20 PM
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What can you do to make yourself feel safe? For me, it’s really nice to know that by rule, I will never be alone w a man again unless I trust him first. I also feel better bc I have a huge mean guard dog. Also, I block any guy who defends abusers. I feel 100% safer giving myself permission to group them together and avoid everyone who isn’t empathetic and supportive. Would taking a self defense class or getting a dog help? Have you tried therapy? I’m so sorry you have to deal w this 😢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 10:05 PM
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No prob, I only know from women poets calling him out!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 09:27 PM
3

It’s true. Not everyone hits their peak as a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:24 PM
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It sounds more like you’re in apps to date around and get women, not find love. That’s fine but that’s not what women want so it’s weird to complain they don’t make it easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:16 PM
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I have anxious attachment and I’m working on it but I’d never sleep if I had to trust someone else w my future. I don’t know if it could work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:06 PM
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Alright. Good luck! 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:51 PM
1

How much life insurance is enough for you to not worry about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:47 PM
2

Lol what. I literally didn’t have kids bc they are so much work. You don’t even need to check on a car if you’re gone for the weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:55 PM
2

I didn’t have kids bc they take up too much time 🤷‍♀️ most women saying this aren’t SAHM so they have a right to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:54 PM
1

How long have you been doing it? Do you feel respected by your partner? Are you given enough money to get what you need? Are you scared for the future if your partner dies or divorces you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:54 PM
1

Before kids!!! The STAP needs to understand the financial hit they are taking and deserve alimony in case of a divorce imo. This should be discussed before anyone quits their job so there are no surprises!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:52 PM
1

I don’t see how a relationship like this could be healthy. It just seems impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:51 PM
2

Every single person has a place in their community, has a valuable job to do, and is treated w dignity and respect. Everyone is supported in being the best version of themselves, regardless of gender. Predators are punished, not victims. People are allowed to expect to feel safe in most places, not told they are babies for having real concerns. Wholesome examples of masculinity and femininity from people of all walks of life. Everyone gets a puppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:49 PM
8

Rh sin is actually a scrote who makes money on women’s pain. 😰 But I do love the sentiment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:22 PM
14

Only men are self centered enough to think that someone else’s liberation movement is supposed to primarily benefit themselves. 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:21 PM
9

Yes. Has word gotten out to pick mes?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:10 PM
26

No prob, it sucks that he was allowed to insult you in the middle of group. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:07 PM
30

Yes I’m glad when I went to aa I went w a gf, it was full of sketchy men. I’m proud of them for working to improve their lives, 💯, but it was def not a safe space for a shy young girl.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:05 PM
2

So many men are like this. 🙅🏻‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 06:04 PM
8

Perfect insight. Triggered is the perfect word.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:41 PM
40

I only go to stuff like this when it’s women only. If there are men they take over and make everything about themselves. Super excited I found a closed women’s spirituality group I will be joining next month!! 💕
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:40 PM
110

He felt insecure and rather than working in himself, he put you down. The facilitator should have shut this down. Shame on them for being shitty at their job. Proud of you for blocking before he could weasel more out of you. Men literally see us as objects. Getting a gf is like adopting a cat to them. Of course they’d be surprised the cat has a life of its own.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:38 PM
1

Yikes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:34 PM
2

Then what are you doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:12 AM
11

Ok what is the broom for?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:03 AM
18

Yup. It’s all about their boys.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 11:37 PM
12

Doesn’t surprise me. It makes me irate to think about the way men treat other men until I remember how they treat women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 11:14 PM
33

They don’t care about other men, they just want to shut women up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 11:10 PM
134

Men fuck chicken sandwiches and barn animals.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 11:05 PM
26

I would immediately block this man if I knew him in real life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 11:04 PM
0

Remember that the topic is "ugly men who get laid all the time". If alphas and betas both get laid all the time I am not sure what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:43 PM
1

So, the top 30% of women. How is that different? Can't wait to see how you talk your way out of this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:39 PM
1

Hey, if you want people to disclose up front how they feel about you and not lead you on when they aren't really interested, I support you 10000%. I would love for that to be the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:24 PM
1

Women to date outside of the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 09:04 PM
1

Isn't that what men want?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:59 PM
-2

I guess I don't understand what the problem is then. Men swipe on everyone bc they don't get many matches. If men got a lot of matches, they would only swipe on the most attractive women, even if a woman has a good personality. I'm not on OLD because it's just not really possible to sort through people and find good matches, but maybe one day there will be a better app that helps people find matches based on overall quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:15 PM
3

Yes. I think we will get a lot farther if we all agree bad behavior is bad and everyone should aim to treat people well. And everyone who is able to should be concerned about their financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:13 PM
3

I think if we could communicate a better understanding of being a woman in a relationship vs being a man in a relationship these people would be less jealous. If you're an unattractive woman, you can still get in a relationship, but it's likely that person is going to treat you more like a pet they are considering keeping than a human person they are considering partnering with. Especially when it comes to being financially dependent on someone, a lot of "being in a relationship" that single peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:45 PM
4

Many people in this sub do! It's really frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:35 PM
1

OK. I agree. So now we can also agree there are men who are not chads (OP's "ugly guys") who can get sex somewhat easily bc they have the social skills to connect w women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:32 PM
36

This man is such a great example of wholesome masculinity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:27 PM
39

WHERE DO I GET A MAN LIKE THIS
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:26 PM
35

"mad at you" No. He got caught being a piece of shit and is embarassed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:26 PM
17

If she turned around and said oh in that case we won't do anal then, it would quickly not be a joke.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:25 PM
7

This is so manipulative. "it was a joke, sorry that triggered you" What is the point of being in a relationship if this is how you get treated in that relationship? FOR WHAT.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:25 PM
26

yes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:24 PM
68

The first reason is just for the second reason. Hooking up with tons of women isn't impressive to women. It's for them to feel worthy in their male friend's eyes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:24 PM
131

men will do anything more male validation, its why they have always died earlier.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:23 PM
177

Men don't understand when they are telling on themselves. I welcome men to reveal this information to me. Tell me your friends validation is more important than what you want and watch my pussy dry up forever.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:22 PM
2

But he is ugly to the person calling him ugly, the woman, who also somehow thinks 80% of men are uglier than this man. It just doesn't add up to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:21 PM
-2

So women think 80% of men are uglier than the ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:12 PM
10

Congrats!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 07:01 PM
-1

You think women think ugly men are in the top 20% of men by looks? A woman walks into a room w 10 men, sees that 7 of them are not attractive to her, calls the 2nd hottest one "ugly" but still considers him one of the 2 hot people in the room?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:53 PM
40

I like a lot of things that are not appropriate for a first date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 06:47 PM
2

"1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence (e.g. beating, burning, strangling) by an intimate partner" And that's just physical violence. Abuse is common. https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20nearly%2020%20people,10%20million%20women%20and%20men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:43 PM
-2

If only 20% of men are attractive and get all the sex, how are women still sleeping w men they consider ugly? Don't those stats show women only sleep w men they think are attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:42 PM
-4

Those 80% of women go for 20% of men according to you. How are ugly men getting into that 20%? You think women think the top 20% of men are "ugly guys?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:41 PM
3

Anyone who doesn't think this is true needs to define what a chad is. Are chads the hottest/most successful 20% of men? Or are chads guys w social skills/charm that get 80% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:40 PM
3

OK this sounds crazy but it's actually perfect advice. If you care about the person you are walking with, you match their speed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 06:31 PM
1

It's a survival skill, like being a healthy weight or not binge drinking. We can tell people what is ideal but for a lot of factors we don't entirely understand, sometimes basic things are really difficult for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:27 PM
2

"They have the autonomy to leave relationships where they aren't satisfied." Many people are in abusive relationships. They are very common. Why don't we ask the guy why he is holding someone hostage? Why doesn't he let her leave? Why do we view it as morally right that a guy can manipulate a woman into staying? In every other area of life we recognize duress in consent and use it as a legitimate reason why consent is not consent. An employer treating an employee this way would lose a lawsuit. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:22 PM
2

I got abused by men taking advantage of me bc I thought they were a wounded animal that needed help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:13 PM
2

I don't think it's just on them to "grow a spine" i think it's also wrong to use someone if you can see they are having difficulty setting boundaries. There's two people in a relationship. It's wrong to do this in general, but especially if you claim to love someone and you're not looking out for them? That's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:08 PM
2

Yes, and the women in those relationships suffer lifetime financial setbacks because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:59 PM
3

Many women sacrifice their income potential for men. If a guy needs support, she will do less in her life so she can be there for him. Women will move for men, most men will not move for women. Children affect women's earning potential negatively, but men's earning potential positively. If you have an equal relationship where you get as much as you give, good for you! I was just explaining why that might not be the case for many other couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:56 PM
5

Would be a fucking stupid move to agree to take a forever hit on your earning potential while the other co-parent doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:54 PM
167

The men who gaslight women about abuse are causing just as much, if not more, harm then the men who are abusing. They all accurately get grouped into the bad men who should be preemptively blocked category.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:53 PM
2

Who is going to pick up the kid from school when they are sick and take the $ hit on their earning potential?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:47 PM
1

You were giving him wife duties before marriage. Not every woman is comfortable doing that bc of the opportunity costs like sacrificing your income for someone if you are accommodating them to that level already or having kids with them, or just being so emotionally invested before they've committed to you and could leave you at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:39 PM
7

Not if you're a woman who wants to have kids. You're a fucking idiot if you have kids with someone you aren't married to on purpose. You're tanking your financial future while accepting responsibility for way more expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:37 PM
2

Probably the children you bring into the world would enjoy it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:36 PM
4

I think a lot of people are just immature and steamroll their partner. If you have two people concerned about each other's needs, you're going to have a lot better chance of enjoying a healthy relationship. I don't think most people do that, though. Dating is opt in bc you are trying to vet out bad partners. You want to make sure you are getting rid of people who are bad for you. Marriage is when you are satisfied with your vetting and you decide to be on the same team forever. Then you can prio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:35 PM
15

Right i'm sure he was perfectly happen to take her affection and possibly sex/physical affection and has no guilt about taking too much or "giving it back".
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:28 PM
14

Please expose him. This is honestly creepy and manipulative and I feel other women would want to know before interacting with him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:26 PM
1

I’ve thought a lot about men’s feelings and put myself in danger bc of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:42 PM
1

Black people are oppressed. There is a history in our country of racists using fear of black people to be violent to black people. Men are not oppressed. There is no history of women being violent to men bc of widespread cultural misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:20 PM
1

That seems fair given men are more dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 02:47 PM
2

Right. I’m saying I do that stuff. If I do any more myself I will just be mastirbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:35 AM
32

Especially bc we know men beg for sex. In any other area of life we call that duress.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:12 AM
3

I do. I have no problem doing it. But I’m not masturbating so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:09 AM
6

Lmao I thought all men were playing games in their moms basement bc girls were too mean so they couldn’t learn 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 04:02 AM
9

Wow I thought there was a huge gap
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:56 AM
11

3 million women getting 3k a month 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:55 AM
3

😂 I got radicalized as a child by being forced to cook and clean while men in my family sit on their ass and watch. Good luck thinking you know your kids tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:42 AM
6

I don’t buy it 🤷‍♀️ I would have kids if I could be a dad but being a mom is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:32 AM
1

So you don’t think there are any but maybe there is. Sounds like a reliable claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:07 AM
148

She’s about to have some very low quality sex, not orgasm, and then wonder what she did wrong that he isn’t messaging.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 01:54 AM
4

Marrying for love, communicating, and having an attitude of talking about stuff/being attentive to each other's needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 12:17 AM
6

"If men did as you suggested en masse, we’d probably see female infidelity rates drop significantly." I don't think so. I think women probably cheat more for attention or because they don't take their relationship seriously than for quality sex. I think pre-marriage infidelity rates are about even, with more men cheating after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 11:45 PM
1

I don't see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 10:52 PM
11

I am sure 100% of those women would rather be having passionate, loving sex with their partner than unwanted sex to keep the relationship alive. Why aren't men more willing to provide that kind of sex if they love sex so much? Why aren't they having unwanted passionate sex so that their wife doesn't cheat? Men will cheat on you whether you fuck them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 10:48 PM
3

I don't understand why you would sell something because of the fact that you don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:46 PM
6

Women sell sex bc men like it, not because they don't want to have it often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:39 PM
14

Women sell sex bc men like sex, not because women don't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:36 PM
3

Its literally a rising trend right now. Google bimboification.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:15 PM
6

Someone who starts out as a fuckbuddy can become the object of a lot of affection. a lottery ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:14 PM
17

very telling that you think sex is the "cost" of a relationship for women. Maybe in a day to day sense, but the real cost is the opportunity cost of not finding a better partner because they are taken, along with labor differences between men and women in domestic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:13 PM
3

I have no idea what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:09 PM
73

The kind of men that want a porn star in bed are the kind of men who are not going to be loyal to one woman. It's not a game you can win.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 09:08 PM
19

I wouldn't call it sexual attraction, but yes young women are beautiful and interesting. I think more than that, though, it's those women's inexperience that appeals to men. Most young girls weren't taught to set boundaries or that their needs should be met in a relationship. Those are things you learn as you age, which is why men resent women aging. They can't manipulate us anymore.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 08:32 PM
17

I'm so happy I know what PUA is so I know not to trust any man asking me out in public.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 08:23 PM
6

haha wow this is a great explanation of male culture.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 08:23 PM
0

It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:16 PM
60

Just make sure people know what he is doing. It's even better if *he* knows other people know, so that he knows if something happens to you he'll be the first suspect.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 05:45 PM
8

post the screenshots at least for your friends and family to see in case anything happens to you. :( I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. I was just reading about this case. Please be careful: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-law-student-accused-killing-dismembering-classmate-lauren-giddings-article-1.944209
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 05:43 PM
27

Big ass dog that barks at everything. Bells on the doors and alarms on the windows. Makes me feel super safe.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 05:41 PM
1

It's a complex bc if i like a dude I want to fuck him and i like him even more after. If you like a girl you want to fuck her but then you don't like her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:40 PM
2

social skills/is easy to talk to and makes me feel safe 2. cute/makes me feel attracted to them 3. independent/not looking for a mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:38 PM
-1

Because you might be wrong and missing major aspects of her pleasure since society pushes male centric sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:18 PM
1

So you think an actual researchers work is “elementary” compared to your feelings. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:06 AM
2

Yes. They compare women to prey all the time and they don't understand that they are telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:11 AM
1

Fair enough I have never tried one, but I'd guess they can be pretty helpful. Not a miracle worker I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:10 AM
1

yes its one those things where you just don't want to be an outlier but i know other women have different experiences and it's all so hard to say because we are never comparing apples to apples. I have no idea what inches I have slept with. I find gyno visits to be extremely painful as well. Oh also, is your vagina different sizes during different times of the month and different stages of arousal? bc i think that feels true based on what we know about bodies (blood pressure, weight, temperature…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:03 AM
5

I see your point, but it's also nice to celebrate older women. I'd love to see these kinds of posts of women who have other kinds of achievements besides beauty in addition to this!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 12:30 AM
11

Wow thats a great quote!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 12:29 AM
5

She looks so healthy and gorgeous.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 12:29 AM
36

If you think you need to lose weight to get a great boyfriend, look at how thin women talk about the men they date. If you think you need to be more beautiful, have better teeth, bigger boobs/ass, whatever, look at how women with those attributes talk about men. There is no set of rules women can play by to be respected by men, but they will always blame their behavior on women not following the rules.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 12:16 AM
2

Why would you be in a relationship without sex? That's just friendship. "you're wrong about ED and porn connection. It's a myth." Just because you're desperate to keep watching it doesn't mean it's a myth. Men existed for thousands of years without porn and managed to get off. If it's harming your relationship, it's worth taking a break and seeing if there is a change in your arousal. If it doesn't make an impact, see a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:11 PM
2

Men benefit from female inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:00 PM
1

How is stuffing it down going to better serve them? Better to get it out and move on than try to "get over it" without getting the mental stuff you need to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:59 PM
1

This is a good way to get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:58 PM
1

As a woman i def wish my parents would have been more focused on telling me to get a good job and be financially independent than be beautiful and attract men. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:57 PM
5

If you have ed the first thing you should do is stop watching porn and if that doesn't work see a doctor, not assume you are unable to satisfy your partner so they have to use plastic toys instead of having skin to skin contact with you, which is the whole point of sex/relationships. That's selfish. Sorry. I can use toys by myself. I don't see the point of sex if it's just me and an audience and plastic toys. Yuck. If other options are exhausted and it's genuinely the only way he can get you off…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:54 PM
3

😂😂😂 OK what if instead of giving you blow jobs your girlfriend moved the fleshlight up and down for you? Does she care about you more or less than the girlfriend trying different oral techniques with her actual mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:45 PM
3

really? Damn I've been w two guys who were too big to be comfortable and have regular sex with. I assumed they were outliers. I have no idea what inches mean bc i've never measured a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:36 PM
2

Yeah if they are doing it for the ego boost and not to pleasure you. If I gave my bf a fleshlight instead of giving him head, so that i could brag about how I get him off, that's selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:35 PM
1

Have you read Come As You Are?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:55 PM
2

Did you try/was he open to a vibrating cock ring? that seems good for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:54 PM
2

Many women don't like sex toys with partners either!!! Skin contact or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:58 PM
3

Did he tried using his fingers/dick/mouth in different ways? Or was the sex toy like a hail mary?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:58 PM
6

Yeah plastic in my sex life is gross. The literal main draw of sex is skin to skin contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:57 PM
1

Have you tried making them cum with oral prior to penetration? The second orgasm is way easier than the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:56 PM
3

No. We absolutely do not want the top 10%. The top 10% is painful af. How can you have good sex connection with your loved one if it hurts when they fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:55 PM
6

His relaxed attitude about his ED was such a huge turnoff Can agree I have experienced this too. Sex toys were the first thing they wanted to try instead of thinking about WHY they have ED (porn) or trying other ways to pleasure me. It's so selfish and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:55 PM
2

I hate using sex toys with men. Maybe in a long term relationship but the men who have tried to introduce them have tried to introduce them instead of trying literally any way to pleasure me with their hands, mouth, or dick first. It's so lazy and gross and not romantic it turns me off a lot. If you've exhausted connecting with skin to skin contact, I'm sure it can be healthy. Not really sure why eating your girl out and then having sex isn't a better solution. Also for ed, have they tried not w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:53 PM
1

Everyone operates with ego. A mature person recognizes when they are acting in response to ego and can course correct. But it doesn't stop being something that happens, it's human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:49 PM
9

There’s an appropriate time to vent and an appropriate time to change course. There is an appropriate time to critique and an appropriate time to listen. Some people lack the social skills to understand the context and blame it on others. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:38 PM
2

👍👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:21 PM
2

Idk what you mean? We all benefit from information being public. It’s like how only employers benefit from keeping your salary a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:16 PM
2

Do you eat pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:15 PM
8

Men say they want their partners to orgasm and yet the orgasm gap persists. Men want the ego boost but don’t put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:15 PM
1

🤷‍♀️ people gotta do what they feel like the gotta do even if it ends up being a mistake they learn from. I love memoirs so I can’t complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:12 PM
2

I answered your question and now you’re being malicious. Consider why anyone would have an incentive to communicate with you. This is exactly why women avoid men and make them simp before they know they are safe to interact with. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:07 PM
1

Ex: in my dating history I’ve given head to 30 men, 3 of them have returned the favor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:58 PM
2

It does help 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:55 PM
2

I expect an emotionally intelligent, communicative, independent adult who is loving , supportive and affectionate. Doesn’t matter if I deserve it or not bc if I don’t find it I will continue to support myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:41 AM
5

If you had a good sex life she isn’t settling. When you settle, the sex is never good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:39 AM
4

Nope but I think most sex workers are self-harming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:38 AM
1

Whats the perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:25 PM
1

"Maybe there are particular things a certain fat woman does that the man pursuing sex with her wants to experience" This is explaining why someone would have sex w someone they aren't attracted to? Plus men say this all the time, sex means nothing and they all admit they would have sex w ugly women if they were desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:41 PM
1

OK so now you agree men sleep with people they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:23 PM
1

Explain why men fuck fat women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:03 PM
1

I've been in therapy for 4 years. Getting perspective from other people is helpful. I do not have an understanding of whether I am asking for too much and over reacting, having so many bad experiences by pure chance, attracting bad men, or doing something else. It's triggering to post here but I block the bad dudes as they come and genuinely feel resolution and progress after I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:25 PM
1

"Happens so often to guys I know that I say man's greatest hardship in life is pretending he doesn't love the one that he loves." So you think men are just pretending to be assholes to me? I'm sure many men have these experiences bc I hear about them all the time, it's just hard to imagine. My friend's husband so nice and supportive and they have a great marriage. I think everyone with a good marriage has a "nice" husband and women notice that. IDK maybe I'm not realizing my social group is outl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:08 PM
1

So a relationship with someone who is using you for sex and doesn't care about you is enviable? That's legit worse than being left alone. You might not think so, but thats bc when men have sex they have orgasms 99% of the time. Instead of being used for sex, imagine being used for cuddles and never getting off and having blue balls on top of being in a relationship with someone who doesn't love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:00 PM
1

"women is that women are guaranteed relationships to begin with" I'm 35 lmao. I was a virgin until I was 24 (for religious reasons) and I have been desperate since birth to meet a man to love and get married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:54 PM
2

All of these guys I had pleasant convos w on OLD before meeting them. One guy introduced himself to me as a "bad boy" and it was so confusing why he thought that would be a good thing. I unmatched. If they weren't nice, I wouldn't feel safe to meet them or feel like they were a "real" person I could relate to. I don't understand how you can be mean to someone on an app and the girl feels safe to come meet you. But I guess it happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:53 PM
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I know y'all say that constantly so it must be true but I have never had a guy ask me out that I have rejected bc he was "too nice". Nice is one of the #1 things I look for. In high school I had a guy that was nice to me that never asked me out? Are you talking about guys who try to be friends with you but don't make a move?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:43 PM
2

"The fact that women have a passive dating role and men have an active one creates an automatic bent towards the success of arrogant and unempathetic males." Women can't fix this though. If you approach a guy, he will likely say yes and be with you for as long as he can, regardless of whether or not he sees you as relationship material. Men will not say no if they are not interested. They will use you for sex and companionship until a better opportunity comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:40 PM
1

haha you live in a fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:33 PM
1

I did find them boring and nice. Nice is one of the main reasons I saw most of these men a second time. People put on a show and then change after you are hooked. I've hooked up w 2 chads who were "exciting" and didn't come off like a nice, average guy. I have no hard feelings because they presented themselves the way they were. They disclosed they weren't looking for a relationships and so my feelings weren't hurt when it was a fun one time thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:19 PM
3

Yes. Is this the first time you are learning men put on a mask for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:18 PM
1

😂 I guess I would have to commit to being a redditor if I did that which is why I have been avoiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:15 PM
1

"You don't even date men. You have nothing to do with men. Why do you even care about any of this? What is any of this to you, personally?" I have dated in the past? And how I feel about that is why I don't date now. And whether I just pick bad or whether most men are like this affects whether I will decide to date in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:15 PM
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I've never wrecked anyone. I try to treat people well which is why I was easily guilted into seeing my ex and giving him sex even though I already knew it was going to be harmful for me and I wasn't even going to get an orgasm or any affection from him out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:12 PM
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so you're saying these are all men who have studied red pill/game? Its happened so many times I have no idea if its all men or how its possible that i am just attracting evil men who front like they are good guys and then change? I specifically try to pick good guys who are average non-chads bc I am looking for a partner not a hook up. This is how hard it is to pick out who is lying and who is truthful about being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:09 PM
2

But they didn't act like assholes when we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:08 PM
2

Thank you. I think this is normal. PS the guy who forgot my name is short, skinny, and ugly. There's hope. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:04 PM
1

Right. I am saying it's fine for an extrovert to want that, but they aren't owed it from other people. "Why do you feel the need to downplay issues that I listed out that men have?" It seemed like you were oblivious to women's issues, sorry. It just seems weird to be complained about someone being afraid you might follow them vs being afraid of being followed. Like I agree it sucks, but idk, if someone has a rational reason to be afraid of me because of stuff that has happened to them, I'm not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:02 PM
3

see above ^
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 03:59 PM
2

So 5'4 unemployed non-white men are chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 03:59 PM
2

Ok but not everyone wants someone to come up to them and start a convo. 🤷‍♀️ It doesn’t sound like as much of a pain as being on guard you will be followed (happened to me) or that a nice guy from a nice family will turn into a date rapist (happened to me) or that every guy “just being friendly” wants to pump and dump you (also happened to me 🥰).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:59 PM
2

If incels think that they shouldn’t try. I don’t get the point of a relationship if you’re not simping for each other. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:56 PM
1

Sure. Maybe that’s more similar but then you cum and have post but clarity. After I cum I’m more in love than ever and ready to go again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:46 PM
2

That seems fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:31 AM
-1

Mate guarding is the primary reason men marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:16 AM
1

I’ve had an eating disorder for 3 decades (I’m 35, for reference) bc I felt I was unworthy to basically be alive unless I was attractive. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:13 AM
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The hypnotherapists love story by liane moriarty! A really nice, realistic love story a middle aged therapist finding love as an intelligent, loving, rational woman from the author of big little lies!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 03:18 AM
1

Rational
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:40 AM
2

Haha that’s a great thing to remember. It really is all in our heads. Like it actually doesn’t matter at all but women have so many body hang ups already it’s hard to be bigger than a guy you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:31 AM
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Maybe bc 3 inches is a lot so I’m glad it worked out and now that I’ve done it I would do it again. What you’re saying also applies to fat women. I know short men hate that comparison bc they can’t get taller but it’s something the opposite gender can be vocal/cruel about. Let me clarify that the 10/10 guy was a 10/10 in my eyes and wasn’t a 10/10 by American beauty standards. He wasn’t chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:45 AM
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Nope. They prob have better looks/social skills which is how they got the partner they already have. Some people swipe based on pics d as bd read the bio later and some don’t disclose in their bio at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:43 AM
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I don’t think it’s about men being bad at sex. I think all our ideas about “what sex is” focuses on male pleasure so female pleasure is an after thought. Coupled with widespread porn use so men aren’t doing curious exploration w a partner but just doing things they saw in porn. Plus as a woman I go down on all my partners and like I said that is not common for men to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:41 AM
1

Of course. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:08 AM
1

It's extremely common on OLD bc poly men are always looking for partners, so they never leave the app. Married men are at least 50% of tinder, I read that somewhere. And since the algo serves people who get matches, those people are at the front of the line even though they aren't available. It's so frustrating, especially when they don't disclose right away and you waste time talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:08 AM
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I have no idea what 20lbs looks like on most people tbh. If a guy is a couple inches taller than me I don't care at all. I dated a guy who was 3 inches shorter than me (I didn't know his height when we met on OLD, i forgot to ask) and it was a little bit awkward but we liked each other a lot so it was totally fine and i thought he was a 10/10. I have gotten annoyed when I have asked his height and shown up and he was shorter than me despite saying he was taller than me, but I think it's fine to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:04 AM
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how do people gather any info about sex? surveys and studies. I'd be really surprised if your gfs had a good experience having lots of casual sex because that's the worst kind of sex orgasm-wise for women even if it takes awhile to put it together bc the cultural narrative is more some men are good at sex and some men are bad, not that sex as a whole in our culture is focused on male pleasure so women are less likely to orgasm in all kinds of relationships with men. The orgasm gap does not exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:02 AM
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sus af
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 01:00 AM
3

No, any dude. A new partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:57 AM
1

Why don't you facetime with women before meeting so you can see what they look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:57 AM
1

Mens photos on OLD are blurry and they are doing something gross like flipping off the camera. It's literally impossible for them to be uglier in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:56 AM
1

What if she showed up 50 lbs heavier bc she thought once you knew her personality you wouldn't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:55 AM
0

"FDS just makes me laugh now, because it’s just average chicks to maybe Beckies complaining they’re not being treated like Stacies and feel they deserve it. " Why is this wrong? If i'm going to be treated average when I know men are perfectly capable of treating more attractive women better, why would I be in the relationship? Either I'm in a relationship where we both treat each other super well, or I'll be single and just treat myself super well. There is no point to being with a man who treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:51 AM
1

That's not catfishing. Catfishing is hiding who you are. If she wrote she was telling men she loved her job and wanted to be an equal financial partner but then switched once they were committed, that would be catfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:50 AM
3

The first time a woman sleeps w a man she has a 4% chance of having an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:46 AM
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"The sex she had prior to her marriage was all consensual." Good for her but a lot of the women reading her articles weren't so lucky.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 12:43 AM
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It's just another way to blame women for men's behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 12:41 AM
14

Wow that is so scary!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 12:39 AM
6

I can understand if you rushed straight from work having to check or send 1 message when you sit down. You should apologize and it should take less than a minute. 15 minutes??? He was negging or just that self-absorbed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/21 12:38 AM
1

I thought you said that was your preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:33 AM
1

got it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:30 AM
1

I think a one time thing you experience together as a couple is also different than being okay with someone fucking your gf while you're not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:29 AM
0

I used to not understand. Then I read Come As You Are and understood female sexuality more. The first time a woman has sex with a man, she has only a 4% chance of orgasming vs his 99%. So of course, if I could get an LTR orgasm with a casual partner, casual sex would be WAY WAY WAY more appealing. I def get it more now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:23 AM
0

Poly men is one of the handful of reasons why I retired from dating. It's just too much for too little. Most of OLD is poly and married men. The algorithms favor people who get contacts so even if other men on are on, this was the vast majority of my matches. "women are growing more comfortable with sharing high value men with other women." IMO a man who will share his woman is not high value. Boner killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:18 AM
2

I think in the right circumstances shed still find a shorter man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:00 AM
0

Please go to thailand. Those women are ready for you to give them your money and since you can't own land there, they will be happy to put the property in their own names :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:18 PM
1

If men like logic and reason, why are they the ones that start wars? Why do men solve problems with violence rather than words more often than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:17 PM
1

"A lot of women grow out of this, but a lot of women never do... being able to spot the ones that never grow up is crucial..." I thought it didn't matter if you grew out of it or not bc once you have been pumped and dumped you are no longer attractive to red pill men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:16 PM
3

Yes I was in my 30s before I realized men are attracted to big butts because I grew up in the 90s/early 2000s around white people and men making fun of any kind of fat on a woman's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:15 PM
4

You only used your personal anecdote in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:43 PM
3

No. That's not true. I've known women who have personally been told they need a husband to come in with them or they need to come back in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:31 PM
4

I don't believe anyone exists who has no attraction to anyone under 6 feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:23 PM
2

I've never heard that about vasectomies, only getting your tubes tied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:22 PM
2

There is little research. There is not no research. We know a lot about women's biology and orgasms. You should read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1476762090/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=come+as+you+are&qid=1614027580&sr=8-1 "Obviously we can't compare trans women orgasms to cis women's, or trans men's to cis men's - but we know that when their biology changed after surgery and hormones, so did their orgasms." Have you compared this w trans people who did…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:00 PM
2

But the hormones don't change your internal biology? I'm not saying they don't have better orgasms when their quality of life increases following SRS. Trans men say they have more intense orgasms after transitioning too. I'm saying trans women don't have the same orgasms natal women have because even with SRS they don't have the same biological process that natal women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:51 PM
2

No one has to date someone they aren't attracted to. I'm just saying "over 6'" should be negotiable. Being attracted to your partner should not. I've thought many men were incredibly sexy 10s that I wouldn't have looked twice at when we first met. Because I know for me attraction develops with the relationship, I don't use stupid standards like "over 6'".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:37 PM
2

But an orgasm isn't a "feeling" it's a biological process. Not all trans people change their biology. So I kinda feel this is junk science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:36 PM
1

Can you tell me how trans people relate to this? PLUS if i have an orgasm, its pretty easy for me to have 2 more in quick succession if he keeps doing what he is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:14 PM
-1

Got it. I didn't realize doctors counseled people to consider it permanent. "plenty of women are scared of getting pregnant but dont do anything about it" Different if they lecture the guy about "trapping" them and then insist on no condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:13 PM
2

🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:11 PM
6

Wow. That's sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:10 PM
1

"Using an insulting term towards someone doesn’t mean they’re being dehumanized or treated like an object." Yes. That is what dehumanizing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:08 PM
2

Yeah, but if I were a 20-year-old dude that didn't want kids until my late 30s, wouldn't it be worth having a reversible procedure for a decade and a half+ of NEVER having to worry about it? This is just such a weird topic. Men are so afraid of it, but so many men don't want to use condoms. My r*pist actually told me he was really afraid of me getting pregnant. I told him no sex without a condom and then he forced himself on me and came inside me, knowing I'm not on bc. Like, he couldn't have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:07 PM
4

Yeah i've never experienced that or heard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:02 PM
3

"I think the worst part about being a female is having the lower sex drive and not able to orgasm as easily." If you want to change everything you think about women and sex, read this: https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1476762090/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=come+as+you+are&qid=1614024049&sr=8-1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:00 PM
5

That doesn't seem that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:00 PM
-1

Many men take me on dates and fuck me and their attraction is real and I feel it. We have romantic sex and date but later I learn they have a girlfriend or are otherwise only fulfilling a sexual urge. I don't know how I'm supposed to know this ahead of time, but PPD men love to blame me for not knowing men are using me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:59 PM
9

It does but it affects men and women. Men just tend to think of their emotions as not emotions. I took CBT to help me learn how to separate thoughts and feelings. It was really helpful. And that's 10 years after i got a degree in philosophy, so I knew what makes a good rational argument already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:57 PM
2

As a not hot woman, I hate fucking up because I have anxiety that men will resent me because they will feel pressured to help but they won't want to. I never ask for help irl. When I fuck up I am super hard on myself. This is just classic anxious attachment stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:56 PM
2

I played 2 sports growing up and now that I am in my 30s I am starting to realize how weak I am and it sucks :( It's like being short. Like you are just less good at life. Will eventually get into lifting I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:55 PM
9

Yes. When I went off BC I cried all day every day for a month. It was completely involuntary. I was not in control of my body or my brain. It was terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:53 PM
3

omg i would love to jerk off as a dude but i would hate to be a male because even though women have way less orgasms, when you are with the right guy i have to imagine its so much longer and more intense than what men experience. It's like a blockbuster movie vs a black and white commercial.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:52 PM
1

Isn't a vasectomy super easy to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:51 PM
12

It's not just that you aren't attracted. It's that they are big and scary and want to put their dick inside you. Think about being a small guy in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:50 PM
5

Not being able to get emotional support or physical affection from my friends. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:50 PM
6

Men do everything for validation from other men. This is why the socially accepted version of a beautiful woman is more important to men than what men are actually attracted to. Many men find big women sexually attractive but it doesn't matter because they are not socially attractive to their boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:48 PM
14

Think about your needs. You should not compromise on your needs. But you can compromise on the specific ways you fulfill that need. ex: "I need to be attracted to my partner" is a non-negotiable. "I need my partner to be over 6'" is a standard that you can compromise on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:47 PM
3

I don't understand your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:46 PM
1

Interesting. So you treat a sex worker with the same respect you treat the customer next to you in line at the grocery store? Or do you go out of your way to be cruel to them and humiliate them? Maybe, for instance, by calling them "whores" when you know "sex worker" is the correct term?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:42 PM
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yeah growing up fat I have major self worth issues because of loud men telling me how bad I was. Then suddenly big asses became popular when I was in my 30s and I seriously had never in my life thought that big asses were attractive bc I had just heard being fat was bad over and over and over. It was such a paradigm shift to even realize black women have always had different body types and that different body types exist and even if I was thin I would never have a flat ass like I grew up wanting…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/21 06:02 PM
2

How do men working construction not "sell their bodies for money"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:12 PM
5

So proud of you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/21 05:11 PM
2

I’m a woman and there were plenty of catfish on old. Both love bombing scammers I never met and men who said they were athletic and used old photos that were v different than how they currently look. As a fat woman I hear men talk about this constantly so I had full body photos and tried to make men FaceTime w me before we met. Imo many men that think women lie about their looks don’t do DD. I was always willing to answer questions or send more pics before meeting but men just wanna rush the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:56 PM
14

Men will sexualized us with or without our consent. Why is making money on that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:54 PM
1

This is an urban legend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:41 PM
1

Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:39 PM
1

Give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:39 PM
1

Even the way you describe it in your rebuttal is dehumanizing. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:38 PM
1

It is harmful. It’s damaging to be treated as an object and it changes the way you view yourself and your interactions with others. It’s psychologically damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:10 AM
1

That’s atypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:09 AM
9

Then he should have kept his legs closed. This is one of the most vile things I’ve ever read. It’s so upsetting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/21 04:09 AM
18

Why hasn’t your wife had time to shower for three days. 😐😐😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/21 04:07 AM
1

I sent you a source. You choose to not believe the source. I didn’t stutter. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:40 AM
1

That’s a nice straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:34 AM
1

Idk I didn’t do the study
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:24 AM
1

I don’t understand what you are confused about. Yes, it’s a well known fact that women generally have lower self esteem than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:19 AM
2

Literally how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 02:47 AM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_guarding_in_humans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 02:24 AM
1

So biblical era men didn’t mate guard?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:57 AM
3

So you agree. Marriage was invented by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:38 AM
10

My pick me friends don’t understand and the girls are mean sometimes but I always tell.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/21 01:00 AM
1

That marriage is mostly about male parental involvement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:59 AM
1

Nope. Amy Coney Barrett is smart. She is smarter than before her education. She can also be duped. See how it works when you don't use all or nothing thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:23 AM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:20 AM
1

People will choose the lesser of two evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:20 AM
1

Education doesn't mean you're not in a cult. Look at Amy Coney Barrett.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:19 AM
1

Yes. Have you ever seen a porn star? Do they look like they are making healthy decisions for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:18 AM
1

Not sure what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:18 AM
2

Why do cult members do what the cult leader tells them to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:53 PM
1

Well we're don't talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:53 PM
5

If it was childbirth, we'd know that by now. It's child-rearing because, like you said, women shoulder the majority of the burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:41 PM
1

Marriage was invented by men for the benefit of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:40 PM
1

Yes you were. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:33 PM
1

People get duped 🤷‍♀️ that doesn’t mean they deserve to be punished. I grew up in a v cult like sect of a religion and it takes time to come out of the worldview that was taught to you. Young girls are being taught sex is empowering. There are influencers on tiktok telling their underage fans they should join of when they grow up. It keeps us trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:13 PM
2

What do you think I should have done? Try to file a police report?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:11 PM
1

Money is a form of coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:11 PM
1

What is there to judge? It’s not harmful to the woman or the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:10 PM
4

Nope. A lot of it is harmful. Look up attachment styles for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:07 PM
1

Ok that answers a lot of questions. It’s not about the best looking/most successful men it’s about the men w the best social skills + at least average looks. Those are the men that are “chads”. I’ve been swiping left on hot guys for no reason. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:04 PM
1

So the guys can do that, are they average men? 5’4-5’10, retail worker in their 30s?, nonwhite? I hate pointing this stuff out bc I don’t think those things are inherently bad but you guys keep saying only chads do this and if I’m only dating chads why aren’t they hot or rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:43 PM
1

I disagree but it’s not provable so I’m not trying to have that convo for the 15th time today 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:24 PM
1

So you think most ex sex workers think they made a great decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:23 PM
4

Yes. Not everything you think is “intuition”. Some is socialization and conditioning, fear, ego, things your parents told you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:47 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w5dkp/we-asked-former-sex-workers-how-and-why-they-left-the-game-behind https://scholarworks.lib.csusb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1030&context=etd
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:47 PM
4

You don’t have to have sympathy. I do. I’m not here to debate basic human decency with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:27 PM
4

Sex workers are self-harming, johns are harming others. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:11 PM
2

Because ex sex workers overwhelmingly say they thought it was empowering but were harmed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:10 PM
5

Sure. Rape will probably never stop existing. Still can think rapists are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:02 PM
6

I’m fine w sex work not existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:58 PM
2

I support sex workers. They get to decide what’s best for them. Just like obese people might not be healthy, but are adults and can make their own decisions. It’s likely either a medical condition or self-harm that leads to people being obese. It’s not ideal but people need to be allowed to live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:58 PM
2

That doesn’t make any sense. I interact w clients all the time from evil corporations. Sorry, I want to only deal w nice ethical people but I also live in the real world and need money to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:57 PM
11

You’re saying I was motivated by character. They were strangers. I had no idea what their character was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:36 PM
8

They were strangers. How could I know their character?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:25 PM
4

Why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:24 PM
10

I’m guessing not a lot. A guy on old told me his gun travel stories of visiting prostitutes in Thailand and Central America. I asked if he knew if they were trafficked or not. It had never occurred to him. (He got blocked).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:24 PM
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Drug dealers are harming people by selling them something that can harm them. Not everyone who sells is selling something harmful. Do you think a sex worker selling sex is harming the man? If so, do you support keeping prostitution illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:22 PM
7

What % of sex workers are of and sugar babies? Take a guess and then I’ll tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:21 PM
4

I support sex workers and I think johns are disgusting There’s a dif between self-harm and harming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:20 PM
5

I ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:16 PM
8

What character? lmao. I'm talking about strangers. Men who I wouldn't pick out of a crowd to talk to but then I heard that voice in my head to not be judgemental and give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:19 PM
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"If you run through a mine field and get blown up, sure the mine is responsible for blowing you up but it is your fault for ignoring the signs and rushing in." What "signs" do you think bad men are giving off? You realize men lie for sex right? They will spend years with a woman they don't like for sex. It's a mask. It takes awhile to discover it is all an act. "If you keep on ending up with bad men, then you have to be doing something wrong as less then 10% of the male population is as bad as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:16 PM
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"Yeah, but all the women who wanted to date him are at fault" No they fucking aren't. He was charming and a great liar with narcissistic personality disorder. The cops talked to him multiple times and let him go. There was a woman who professionally wrote about murderers who was also on the task force to catch the "ted" killer who looked like ted bundy and they knew was probably named ted. She was friends with ted bundy and worked with him. AND SHE HAD NO IDEA. Even after bundy was arrested for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:11 PM
1

"Okay, then avoid men. " Yes. You have just discovered what FDS is. "You are not owed good men" I would never say this. I don't think I'm entitled to a good man at all. I was surprised when good men have wanted to date me. But I am entitled to not be treated cruelly. "But really, the correct option is to just vet better here (unless you believe the costs outweigh the benefits ofc)." Male attention is a fire hose. In order to attract good men you are going attract a mob of bad men who are good en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:59 PM
4

should be easy to explain why then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:38 PM
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"Girls are pressed to “Just give him a chance,” even when we aren’t attracted to the guy." This sentiment has put me in so many dangerous situations where I ignored my intuition because I felt "bad" I was judging him and not "giving him a chance".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:37 PM
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There is no way to act for women that avoids bad men other than avoiding men altogether. "Same is true for men and we already do exactly that." No. r/relationship_advice is full of men being treated badly by women. Those men aren't responsible for women's actions. People are responsible for how they treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:36 PM
3

Yup. Plus I am just a bad sleeper so we can cuddle and then we can have space.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:32 PM
1

Great. Not all men respect women’s boundaries like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:44 PM
1

Target them for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:35 PM
1

I don’t see how it’s a problem bc women aren’t saying “I deserve chad” they are saying they deserve to be happy with a dude. Which is true. Why be in a relationship that makes you unhappy? How does that harm anyone? Meanwhile chads are leading them on. It takes awhile to realize someone is lying to you. Women aren’t responsible for men’s actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:33 PM
118

I remember 20 years ago Giuliani had a reputation for being the nyc mayor who ignored public rapes at the Puerto Rican day parade. We were called hysterical for implying he’s not an altruistic politician. Now that he has been confirmed as scum it’s real quiet. 🦗
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 03:45 PM
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Men have no problem announcing how disgusting they are.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 03:35 PM
7

A real partnership is the goal. If you have that, nothing is more tempting. That’s the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:31 PM
13

I’d never be w someone I didn’t love, but I’m financially independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:30 PM
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No but I think each having our own bedroom is ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:29 PM
1

Word salad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:26 PM
1

So women are responsible for men’s actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:25 PM
2

So there’s no way for a woman to be telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:24 PM
1

Men won’t even take us on dates. They can’t need sex for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:20 PM
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Correct. Dating a woman or sleeping with her means nothing to a man. It’s doesn’t mean he finds you attractive or cares for you. It’s just about him using you to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:19 PM
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Yeah I mean obviously it’s easy to tell after it’s over they don’t treat you bad until after you fuck however many times or years he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:34 AM
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Women’s sexual prime is age 31. I actually want to die reading this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 04:31 AM
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Being dumb isn’t an excuse. It’s a fucked up way to treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:38 AM
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Because 95% of the time a woman is telling me about her experience and never even mentions the guys name. It’s inhumane in that context to ask shitty questions about what they did to deserve it. I’m not a police officer. I know how I responded to my own rape so I can recognize it in others 🤷‍♀️ I think most women err on the side of not calling it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:47 AM
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I believe most of them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:26 AM
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I know I am telling the truth and I know the response from men who think they are good men and that rapists are bad men responding to me with gaslighting and blame has honestly been worse than actually being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:14 AM
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Men are always telling us if we just did xyz they’d stop abusing us but if you find a girl who has xyz quality you will find men are abusing her and telling her the same thing. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 02:12 AM
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I would love if it were like that but it’s not. Men will fuck women they aren’t attracted to and date someone they don’t care about for years. A guy will not leave you alone just bc he doesn’t care about you. I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:03 AM
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Well usually there’s a gap between meeting a woman and her sleeping with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 01:12 AM
1

Many kinds, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:31 AM
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No. I’m saying it’s sus that men claim sexlessness is sooooooo bad when they don’t even treat women well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:27 AM
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You act as if all the other kinds of men haven’t been a bad surprise too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:26 AM
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You’re a male. What you think is high value is irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:17 AM
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You misread. Men are more likely to be raped by a man than by a woman. They are far less likely to be raped than women. It’s so sick how you guys treat rape victims. Why would any woman feel safe with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:15 AM
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I mean y’all say you need sex sooooooo bad it’s this huge problem that not all men can have sex. It’s pretty natural to assume that means you guys value sex. I don’t think I’m better than a starving person bc I’m not obsessed with food. But if those starving people were harassing me constantly, yeah, I’d be pissed and scared. Same as men. I would give up sex too and that’s more rational than turning into a monster but there are many men in this sub that have told me men have to be monsters bc th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:12 AM
1

Those dudes are probably APD vs being a normal guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:40 PM
1

I think the men who are fucking other women when they are dating their future wife are the men who end up in that 20%. Dating multiple people is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:07 PM
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No? I think they are buying pornography to jerk off to. I think knowing it’s a real woman makes their peepee hard which is important bc most men are addicted to porn, which causes Ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:04 PM
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The fact that even though there are way more women who want to fuck men than men who want to fuck me you’re more likely to be raped by another dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:03 PM
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I've never heard it implies desperation. I heard it was doing nice things for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:56 PM
1

Thats how arguments work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:52 PM
0

perspective i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:52 PM
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"But that doesnt explain why "players" or "fuckboys" do ultimately commit." I don't think they do. If they get married, they cheat. Men who are looking for their wife find her and commit. Why would you go date another girl to lead her on if you want to find your wife? By your logic this guy is dating his wife while also dating and sleeping with a woman he doesn't care about at all. Those two things don't add up to a loving, happy marriage to me. Like if he wants to be with his future wife, be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:51 PM
1

Y'all keep saying there is this mysterious group of "good men" who are average looking and treat women well. Is there any proof for the existence of this group?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:43 PM
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Men will never be called a gold digger for wanting someone with their same or more level of success.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 10:42 PM
3

There was one that said "men love saying mean things and then saying its just jokes so how about we joke about your height?"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 10:41 PM
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You have this view that can't be wrong because when I tell you I have experienced it not being right in real life not just what I think in my head, you gaslight me about it. Y'all think men are good because you think yourselves are good men but you are exactly the men we are afraid of who will gaslight us instead of protecting us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:11 PM
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That's just a loser? Aren't simps supposed to be doing nice things for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:07 PM
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This is so far away from the reality I've experienced I guess there is no point in continuing to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:06 PM
1

It doesn't sound true to me so I'm asking for an example so I can better try it on. A husband leaving a wife because she gets sick (common scenario) is not someone who "loves" his wife. If you get rich and resent your wife, I'm gonna also guess you don't love her and the money is allowing you to be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:04 PM
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"From experience I know most men dont want to feel pressured into a relationship almost in the same way women dont want to feel pressured into sex" Please don't say this to women. If you don't want to be in a relationship, you can say no. Your "no" should be respected but its also a convo that can take place over text or out in public somewhere. It is absolutely not close to being similar to being alone with someone bigger than you who is begging you for an immediate action. Men aren't scared fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:01 PM
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"I know two men in my life right now who would make great boyfriends" I didn't say women have dated your friends, but that womens general experiences with all kinds of men are bad. "“Chads” have sucked up all the oxygen in modern dating today" I'm in rad fem circles so it could just be my circle but it does feel like bc of the men who ARE mistreating women, access to women is about to get shut down for everyone who isn't simping hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:55 PM
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"thats affection in a relationship" I agree, yet those men are called simps by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:47 PM
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"Women need to do a better job of picking the men they spend time with." Every woman I know has tried dating ugly/average men and find them to be just as mean and entitled as hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:43 PM
2

Sure you do. I've heard plenty of men talking about having sex with women they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:42 PM
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For sure, you side with abusers. You aren't a safe person for me to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:41 PM
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Women don't say men are valuable. That's the difference. Im specifically asking why men say sex is valuable and then mistreat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:40 PM
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"There are people who treat others like shit but love themselves. " Can you give me an example that isn't someone who would be a narcissist or have anti-social personality disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:40 PM
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No, I think they are "shame prone" which I guess I was conflating with low self esteem. They are people who are very afraid of being judged so they judge others loudly first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:39 PM
2

The only time I see simp mentioned is when a bf is doing something for his girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:37 PM
1

Men pursue women they aren't attracted to all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:37 PM
1

Ugly men treat women great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:37 PM
1

But in relation to leading someone on. How do you define it? It can be very small things like when a guy is asked "what are you looking for" and he obscures that he knows at that point he does not want a relationship or he does not want a relationship with that woman. Anything like this where he is manipulating the truth to obscure his real intentions while the other person is genuinely asking questions to see if they should escalate to the next level. Because it's usually not explicit, I give g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:35 PM
1

I wouldn't call the first kind of guy a player I guess, so that might be the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:28 PM
1

This really isn't controversial https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/intense-emotions-and-strong-feelings/201010/do-bullies-really-have-low-self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:27 PM
1

So you just don't believe women's own experiences. There's nothing else for us to talk about then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:27 PM
2

You will think a lot of men are sadists then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:26 PM
1

OK. Well if its a nerdy simpo boyfriend thats cute af. If its a nerdy simp stranger, see above. Consent and boundaries my dude 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:25 PM
1

I guess I don't get why you said it then? It seems obvious unless you are trying to contrast?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:24 PM
1

idk do those men that don't take care of themselves value themselves? if they are treating themselves as poorly as they are treating me, wouldn't it mean they think of themselves as poorly as they think of me? Like not even getting into ytf these men are pursuing me if they think so poorly of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:24 PM
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"Acting like all players are inherently liars is a cope plain and simple." Some men are charming and get a lot of women and ONS because they are fun to hang out with and sexy. Some men rack up a body count bc they regularly go after drunk women, pressure women for sex, or lead women on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:23 PM
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Because EVERYONE says to date ugly guys. You have personally said it to me like 20 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:21 PM
1

Yes they can. lol. You literally have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:21 PM
0

That's exactly my question. Men don't have a disposable supply of women but still treat women as disposable. Men on apps, who famously aren't getting many matches, usually said something disgusting to me when we matched or sent dick pics or just generally put no effort into the convo until I unmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:20 PM
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"So women are constantly getting raped and abused?" Yes. Welcome to conversation. "So, women are constantly afraid that the man they're with is going to rape or abuse them?" Usually just the first date or two. "Why do you even have anything to do with any man then?" IDK I quit dating because I can't answer that question. "YOU PICKED THOSE MEN, so I don't know what to tell you." You should say "stop picking men".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:19 PM
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right but everyone agrees victimized people have low self-esteem. And having low self-esteem isn't a bad thing or an insult. Just like checking your blood pressure and if its too high or low, you need to adjust your lifestyle or get a medical intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:17 PM
3

The point is that men cry about women not giving them a chance but still treat women like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:16 PM
1

No, it's an idea a lot of therapists talk about. I didn't make it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:16 PM
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What I'm saying is that it's a lie women are valuable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:15 PM
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" don’t think the average woman has any idea how hard dating is for the average man" If dating is so hard, why do they treat the opportunities they have to date so poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:15 PM
2

Me. I've done that. Most women I know who have been single for a long period of time have done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:14 PM
1

Right. Most people aren't narcissists though. That and APD are exceptions to normal human behavior. I think abusers are normal. It's too common for it to only be people w personality disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:13 PM
2

Well thank you for agreeing that the rampant "date ugly men" advice on here is really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:12 PM
4

They asked me out. They begged me for sex. Its fine to be out of my league but then what are you doing in my league?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:11 PM
2

OK? Men act like women are disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:10 PM
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But you cry about not having sex? Like which is it? Is not having sex the worst thing in the world that men can't survive? Or is it not even valuable enough that would treat someone who has sex with you as a valuable person in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:09 PM
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"rape and abuse are not "women's dating problems". Those are crimes." I mean its literally a problem that every woman has while dating. Either rape or the fear of rape or abuse. It's so common it's normal to talk about meeting in public on OLD for safety reasons. "No one is asking you to fuck men you don't want to fuck, so just put down that strawman." Ok explain to me how you think women should be helping men with their dating problems then that has nothing to do with us sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:05 PM
3

I mean if a random stranger is doing something nice for you its weird. If your boyfriend does something nice for you, it's a normal relationship and you don't treat him bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:04 PM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:03 PM
1

"How someone treats someone regularly is TOTALLY different from treating someone differently because of a current mood/situation." Every time you "treat" someone in a way, you are in a mood/situation. Lots of people are chronically crabby because they hate their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:03 PM
1

"Is your argument that all people think and behave exactly the same, regardless of background or personality?" Not at all. It's that men who treat women bad probably treat those women the same as they treat themselves. So the woman perceives she is being mistreated and the man perceives that he is treating her the way he treats himself so it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:01 PM
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Every woman I know has tried dating ugly men because thats what men tell us to do and every one of those women said the ugly guy was more rude and mistreated them more than a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:01 PM
1

What lol Men say women are just lying about rape and abuse all the time. I feel super bad men are lonely and I’ll help where I can but it’s not my responsibility to fuck men to fix their loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:56 PM
1

Why would it vary from person to person? I think human behavior would be more similar from person to person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:52 PM
1

Simps are generally hvm tho. Men who struggle to get women aren’t simps past maybe high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:51 PM
1

What about my example? When I treat someone badly, it actually isn’t about them at all. I’m just hangry or upset about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:47 PM
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Bc men act like women are disposable. If women are supposedly valuable to men, why don’t they value us?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:46 PM
1

What’s the real number
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:46 PM
6

You don’t have an understanding of dating for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:45 PM
-2

If it’s so hard for men, why don’t they value opportunities more? Even ugly men regularly treat women like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:45 PM
2

I would say that person doesn't have good self esteem if they are doing that, people lashing out can look like they think highly of themselves but it's not real confidence. If they didn't have some kind of scarcity mentality/insecurity, they wouldn't be triggered enough to be shitty to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:31 PM
0

There's no argument you can make for women being eugenicists that changes when they pick you. If this is true, this is a static role women have played since time started, which has nothing to do w modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:27 PM
0

It’s not my fault you can’t separate your feelings from the comparison and easily understand the point that not everything that is “practical” is good or helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:48 PM
3

Which aspects do you find problematic? "if a guy doesn't get any dates or action, what should he do?" If I couldn't get sex, I wouldn't force myself on people who didn't want to have sex with me. 🤷‍♀️ There are sex workers, sex toys, free support groups, and platonic friendships. Women don't get what they want either and they have to rely on sex toys and platonic friends for what they wish they were getting from men. Furthermore, the most important thing to me is my quality of life. When I act i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:31 PM
32

Yes. When I feel bad about being single I just need to visit relationship subs to remind myself what being in a real relationship is like. There's a reason marriage was invented by men. I do think single women are treated better in the workplace though. Moms get way more time off/leeway, but they also have their whole identity changed from a fellow worker to a mom and their future pay stagnates. This is obviously super fucked up and wrong, but it's a little thing I am happy doesn't affect me at …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 07:21 PM
3

Do you think TRP teaches men to manipulate women, use women for sex, or generally mistreat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:15 PM
1

It was practical. "practical" is not inherently valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:02 PM
-1

Yes a comparison is when you take two unlike things and talk about what is similar. Hitler offered a practical solution. "Practical" isn't valuable unless it is combined with other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:01 PM
-4

Hitler offered a practical solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:28 PM
1

I am fds and I 💯 don’t understand dating. I just want to keep bad men away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:27 PM
25

And he will cry everywhere leading even more men to believe courts are biased against women when most men simply do not show up to ask for custody of their own kids. 😐
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 06:14 PM
59

She looks like the nurse
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 06:13 PM
22

It’s just different. Can your dad name the schools you went to growing up? I don’t think my dad even knows I have asthma. It’s like moms are the single parents and dads are uncles that come around sometimes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:55 PM
22

💯 dad of the year on Facebook clown of the year in real life
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:36 PM
60

This seems like the end but when you look back at your life it will be the beginning and you will wonder what took you so long.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:35 PM
2

Ok. If you’re comfy living like that fine. I’m not. Op asked why you’d want a career. My answer is to not live like that. I’ve done it, I hated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:30 PM
2

If you paid 1500 you would have $500 a month for all other life expenses. Housing is supposed to be 30% of your after tax income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:28 PM
44

Oh and him doting on his new gfs kids 😡😡😡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:27 PM
4

No the last apartment I had was $1k which is cheap for my area. If you make $15/hour you will have another $1k/month to buy health insurance, food, utilities, car, etc. literally everything else. For reference, $1k is my currently monthly budget for groceries and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:23 PM
121

He’s about to get a cash job and post to fb about how she’s keeping him from his kid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:20 PM
81

That’s the exact phrase that keeps me single. Even in my pick me days I don’t allow “that’s just the way it is” reasoning.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:19 PM
71

This is why I’m childfree. I love kids, but I’m not raising one on my own.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 05:18 PM
3

Ok both sound awful. I would try to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:16 PM
8

Good for you. It’s not for me. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:50 PM
2

For women it’s a paraphilia like being a pedo, so I assume it’s the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:38 PM
4

Even $15/hour will have you constantly struggling for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:37 PM
7

Ok but ugly men act the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:03 PM
9

Right like no one is paying to see him if these girls wanted to do porn they would. The audacity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 09:06 AM
16

Is he fucking kidding??????? The entitlement he has to ask his exes if he can pimp them out is astonishing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 09:05 AM
2

You’re supposed to optimize your own happiness until you are committed and agree to work as a team and ops advice is for dating, not committed couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:31 AM
1

I agree, commitment is for people you’re committed to. Before that you are supposed to get rid of people who don’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:29 AM
10

I have sex w a guy bc I think we are hitting it off not bc I’m trying to buy him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:28 AM
3

no offense but I’ve dated these kind of guys they are the same as chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 02:10 AM
1

🤷‍♀️ Then they shouldn't have pressured me into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:34 AM
0

Thank you for saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:49 AM
-1

How do you know a man has no other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:48 AM
6

" it's pretty easy to tell what men are users and which ones are not." How do you tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:47 AM
16

"Why would the guy leave if everything is so great?" No idea but i've experienced this too. Most of the times a guy has left me it has been great and I have no idea what's wrong. I would guess they leave because they never thought I was wife material but wanted to sleep with me. When I slept with them, they got what they came for and were able to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:46 AM
27

"seem to have this idea, men are just gross pigs who want sex only" Men will literally fuck you and then say they always thought you were ugly. We didn't get this idea out of thin air. We're never ugly enough to be left alone, but we're never pretty enough to be treated with respect. I am currently retired from dating but I will consider dating and being retired from sex only. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:36 PM
3

Depends what you think "success in life" is. I see a man who is going to hit middle age and have an absolute meltdown because he's been stuffing his feelings down for 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:35 PM
20

Wise!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 10:27 PM
8

No but I’d love to live vicariously through you! Tell me the t!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 09:52 PM
56

I feel like misogynists are going to use this against us bc they think being abused by a man is better than being single.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 09:51 PM
0

I would donate to a charity that works to give men a more feminized manner of speaking 😂 That shit is so attractive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuCcchMOsKE Is this feminized? I found how thoughtful he was being (i mean obviously he is under immense pressure to not say the wrong thing, but he always talks like this) what you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:38 PM
2

This isn't a thing in a relationship and if it is, it's not healthy. Yeah, dating people is a lot of work. I'm an introverts and I have a really high standard for what I'm gonna leave my house for. No complaints from me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:31 PM
1

"Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee—Although this precept, like the other two with which it is associated, was in all probability designed to root out some superstition, it seems to have had a farther meaning. The law, it is to be observed, did not prohibit the Israelites wearing many different kinds of cloths together, but only the two specified; and the observations and researches of modern science have proved that 'wool, when combined with linen, increases its…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:23 PM
2

1000% of them. I'm not perfect, but I generally try to do the right thing and since I'm human and there's no expectation of perfection, I'm confident in the efforts I put in to make my past partners healthy and happy in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:21 PM
3

"I’m done having sex with women beneath me." Then it sounds like you solved your own problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:55 PM
3

Oh. So you secretly resent her while using her for sex but don't say anything and get mad when she doesn't mind read. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:48 PM
2

Duping delight smiles are sooooo creepy
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 03:02 PM
2

How do they feel entitled to your company?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:58 PM
1

Nice!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 04:55 AM
0

You can want a perfect 10 if you want! Just don’t have to be rude about people who aren’t for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:45 AM
-3

This is why fit men freak me tf out. Like they’re so judgemental and obsessed w getting someone on their level. I don’t want to stand in the way of their perfect 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:33 AM
2

No idea
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:34 AM
2

No but I assume they are perfectly good for themselves or someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:33 AM
1

I don't need to dwell on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:00 AM
2

Those aren't words I'd use to describe someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:40 AM
2

you sound mean as hell too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:22 AM
1

So fake
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 10:24 PM
44

He really thinks women liking sex in general entitles him to whatever woman's body he wants.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 09:57 PM
4

id say its what most men on dating apps are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:33 PM
1

There are too many bad men that you collect if you do this. It's not worth it. Even for a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:31 PM
2

wouldn't you want your partner to have skills you don't and be complementary vs a carbon copy of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:28 PM
2

So you are one of those guys that start talking about sex when we match with you and get confused when we unmatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:28 PM
5

Interesting, I really do think men prefer to be the breadwinner. I think all the men I've dated low key seemed like they wished I was less successful/they made more than me and I am pretty laid back about that stuff so it's not like it's really important to me and they were reacting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:26 PM
1

Nope, no one in my family went to college before me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:55 PM
1

Yes, I knew that. I also knew I would probably get married and he would probably make more than me so what I made wasn't as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:32 PM
103

And Khloe is one of them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 02:13 PM
2

I could google my current job title and not have an idea what the salary range is, there is like 30-50k range for every position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:12 PM
2

If you listened instead of commenting about how I'm stupid, you would probably learn about people who are different than you. Yes, I knew bankers were rich and janitors were poor. But I just assumed I would get married and not be in charge of the money bc I would probably take care of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:42 PM
2

People aren't going to share their experiences with you if this is how you respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:08 PM
2

There is no sex that doesn't require effort from women. We could get pregnant. That is a huge risk. Beyond that I agree you should not sleep with people who aren't demonstrating enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:47 PM
2

Yup, got a useless liberal arts degree had no idea I was supposed to provide for myself no one taught me about wealth I had financial anxiety for a decade. Everyone needs to be taught basics of how to provide for yourself as they reach adulthood. It was weirdly hard for me to find good information about what kinds of jobs I would find, what my future expenses vs pay would be, what salaries were like after taxes and withholding, what my student loans would cost monthly in the future, etc. this in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:42 AM
89

Exactly. They always tell on themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 06:14 AM
143

Yes when you’re messaging hundreds of women I’m sure it gets exhausting. Maybe stop mass messaging.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 06:14 AM
39

We don’t not ask you out because we think it’s weird. We don’t ask men out because we don’t want to. This feels like gaslighting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 06:12 AM
7

Thank you!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 06:04 AM
57

There’s no “correct” way to strangle someone. You can die without warning the first time someone strangles you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 06:03 AM
142

They absolutely do. The men in the comments are PRESSED.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 05:59 AM
48

It’s literally true
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 05:58 AM
8

Is there any book or anything in particular I can read on this? I’d like to be better versed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 04:51 AM
12

my blood ran cold, this woman is in danger.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 02:46 AM
27

It's really hard to understand. The way I treated men and the way they have treated me are so far apart. :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 02:15 AM
7

thanks!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 01:48 AM
126

this man tried to tell me that women never had to choose between marriage and starving in the streets the other day. He was dead serious. He thought throughout history women choose marriage because they are just gold diggers I guess.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 01:19 AM
17

I need to watch more period films.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 01:18 AM
243

degrading is the perfect word
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 01:02 AM
2

I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm not saying ideals are wrong, I'm saying men treat their ideal woman poorly, too. You might think you need to lose weight to please men, but men treat instagram models poorly too. It's good to know so you can figure out what you want to do to live your best life on your own terms instead of putting years into trying to please someone only to discover it doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:29 AM
77

The reason it took me so long to stop dating men was I really thought they knew something I didn't. I thought I was oversensitive and asking for too much, because that's what men told me. I thought all my boyfriends were sex-deprived by their withholding ex girlfriends even though I experienced first hand that 95% of them did not do oral sex the way women (me) do blow jobs. Now that I have more confidence and believe my experiences are real, I can see how these men are abusers. They are looking …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 12:29 AM
46

"we do not discriminate, we exploit all teens"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 12:07 AM
95

Well this is rapey af but i think all of us here have tried dating ugly guys and they are the same or worse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 12:03 AM
6

This will be really helpful information for OP to see. Thank you for confirming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:49 PM
4

Sure, it's easy to separate yourself from people from the past. Point to a woman in 2021 who is demure and feminine and I will show you the hate comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:41 PM
26

Yup. Plus I assume they are pick up artists or studying pick up artists.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 11:35 PM
1

"They may not be conscious they are doing that, but they are." You can't consent to something you aren't aware of. You are coming to the arrangement with a secret motivation and getting mad that your expectations you never shared aren't met. Try communicating. "strippers, sugar babies, even down right prostitutes do not accept being called what they are." I disagree but idrc about this. "I mean... those who can without some woman nagging the hell out of them or accused of some lie, do just that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:34 PM
1

How would you feel if a 26 year old guy wanted to date an 18 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:17 PM
38

I don't want men to approach me in real life though, so that's okay with me?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 11:16 PM
80

Not inherently unattractive, unattractive by choice. The vast majority seem fixable if they showered, got a haircut, got some new clothes, exfoliated their faces, showered, and didn't flip off the camera.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 11:14 PM
1

35 year old going after someone 10 years younger than him is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:13 PM
1

Look that guy up in your state's court records. Bet he has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:04 PM
1

If a guy doesn't protect himself from Covid and STIs, how do you think he will protect you from those things or anything else? He won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:02 PM
7

No matter what men say their ideal behavior for a woman is, if you look at women who acts that way you will find them ridiculed by men, called sluts/fat/ugly/old/etc. There is no decision you can make that will keep you safe from this so you should decide what is important to you, and live that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:01 PM
2

"Women are offering a service for resources/services." No they aren't. Sex workers consent to having sex with you in exchange for money. No sex worker thinks its rude to be called a sex worker. "we also want kids and whatnot too." I don't believe this one. If men wanted kids they would spend time with the kids they already have. "If we were to use sex workers, surrogates, housecleaners, and what not, it would become too expensive, too quickly" So you're saying having a woman in your life is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:55 PM
2

OK fair enough. I wouldn't phrase it like that but there def is an element of complementary life skills and personality types. I think in a healthy relationship, both people are better off. If you can't make someone else's life better off, you should leave them alone. You say above you think women mostly don't have a sex drive. If this is true and marriages are about resources, and it's also becoming more and more the case that women don't need men for money... what do you expect to happen in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:51 PM
2

Marriages are supposed source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:44 PM
18

This is so sad. Some of the many reasons I didn't report my rape.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 10:42 PM
2

Men put in effort then stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:38 PM
1

There are other good sources of sex. Hire a sex worker. Leave the rest of us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:38 PM
1

When a guy says he is interested in me, I used to believe him. I didn't know that men lie and are only interested in sex. Now that I know that, I can see it, but you can't expect people to "just know" that someone is lying. Also, I make more money than almost all the men I've dated. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:34 PM
5

"the fact that you have the privilege to be an abandoned single mom, or live in poverty instead of under a bridge somewhere, is because us men have all the power and jobs AND we pay taxes" Damn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 08:30 PM
4

Men lie for sex constantly. And unlike women lying for marriage, society at large accepts men lying for sex as okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:19 PM
5

So it's okay when men use women but not when women use men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:16 PM
3

It doesn't matter what the definition of marriage is. It matters what most relationships are actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:11 PM
7

Women have sex to get married, it's the bait to catch a fish. Men only talk to women to get sex. If they just liked women, they wouldn't even think about sex. They care about women because they care about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:10 PM
5

I love routine and I've never had my sex drive go down bc of familiarity. Generally in the beginning the guy romances you and then kinda says he only did that for sex and doesn't want to do it in a relationship so the sex stops/you break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:09 PM
7

This is only true in their delusions and they know it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/21 06:13 PM
1

Not unless his social skills are on the extreme bad end of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 01:08 AM
2

Do you think Amy Schumer is fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:13 PM
2

You initially described him as trim. Do you still think he's trim after looking at pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:10 PM
2

I think he is fat. I don't mean it in an insulting way, I think he is very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:03 PM
10

Right but that is how it works. Genetics and wealth aren’t distributed fairly. It’s also not “fair” that as a woman I worked hard for a good education and career and men dgaf about that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:28 AM
3

Yup. I don’t do dangerous things. I like to be safe and cozy and do my adventuring through reading. Dating men is too dangerous to be enjoyable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:07 AM
1

Good to know it’s not gonna get easier if I work out more 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:56 PM
2

He’s not trim and in shape at all? He is fat. But yes he is attractive bc he is a skilled and knowledgeable chef and businessman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:16 PM
3

I’m not sure great partners exist. Another man in this sub just said men come to Reddit to say things anonymously they would not say in public. Knowing what men say on Reddit, I’m not sure it’s safe for me to be so close to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:50 PM
7

It's... okay for a woman to prefer a 6'2 man with a beer gut?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:30 PM
22

Using this page I found out a guy I'd gone on a few dates w but creeped me out was arrested for strangling a woman a few years later.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 09:26 PM
2

wow. You really dodged a scary bullet! Can you recomend the service you used? How much did it cost? I'm gonna start doing this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 09:25 PM
0

No he wouldn't. There is literally no way a rp guy would get me out of my house and on a date w him, esp during a pandemic. " he would superficially meet all of your requirements" My requirements aren't superficial, so again, no he wouldn't. RP men cannot pass for human. Your friend sounds like a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:32 PM
2

What I'm filtering out. RP men don't demonstrate interest in a woman, at least not without also negging her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:28 PM
3

He's not worth me allowing into my life. That's just me making decisions based on risk/reward, not commenting on his worth as a human being. Make sense now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:27 PM
1

Maybe you haven't made your partner feel safe to be vulnerable and honest with you. I have told men what's helpful for me, and I have faked orgasms. If I have no interest in having sex w the guy in the future or I am otherwise disassociated/not present in the relationship, I'm not going to be teaching him how to be a better lover. That's more wife duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:19 PM
4

"Yes, you conflate their worth with whether or not they want you." No. Not at all. They have dignity and worth because they are a human being. It has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:17 PM
8

They are perfectly "good enough". They just aren't for me. Unlike red pill men, I don't conflate a person's worth with whether or not I personally want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:09 PM
3

"women" is a large group. There are some women who say one thing while other women do another. Yes, you should focus on the women that do what you are looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:03 PM
4

Yup. Seems like an easy enough fix though. When women have sex w other women they have orgasms. So it’s not biological. Maybe if men were making women cum, those women would want to have sex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:58 PM
2

So again, men hear women say something, disbelieve them, and then call them liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:53 PM
3

But I'm only "losing" out on a RP man. I don't consider that a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:46 PM
1

I didn't really think about it. I just thought, is he attractive or not, not really noticing/paying attention to men's hairline in particular. That doesn't mean balding men aren't considered less attractive, just that i never paid attention to baldness in particular. Tom Collichio is a sex symbol in the culinary world and he is super bald: https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+colicchio&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxtmf0uzuAhWFLn0KHfKvBP0Q_AUoAnoECBMQBA&biw=1199&bih=621
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:39 PM
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And yet I don't victimize others. Anyone who leaves me alone is left alone. Not very narcissist of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:30 PM
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men aren't funny. this video is legit just scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:28 PM
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No. I would not reach out to an ex if I were in a relationship, for any reason without talking to my partner about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:28 PM
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It's not "wrong" lmao. It depends on the relationship. If he has asked her to please leave him alone, she should respect his boundary. If they are friends, that's a nice sentiment. It's his decision if talking to you violates the trust of his LTR. I def would not talk to an ex while in a relationship out of respect for my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:19 PM
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Yes that's extremely scary and rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:16 PM
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Marriage isn't the determination of success here. Many, many women are unhappy and lonely in their marriages. My goal is to avoid that whether I avoid it by finding a great partner or by staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:12 PM
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Men often disbelieve women when they are telling the truth and call it lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:10 PM
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idk its def sluttier to have a higher n count. The way I think about sex is very different from how I thought about it when my n count was > 5. I just don't think that's a bad thing, esp to other people who have slept around a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:01 PM
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Yeah generally good people have that reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:00 PM
5

She does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:59 PM
1

That seems like a terrible lesson to give to little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:52 PM
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Yes I think hearing your parents accept the mistakes of their co-parents as normal and manageable can be very helpful, but not every parent is able to have that relationship w their coparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:51 PM
1

Why "is viewed as" vs "is"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:50 PM
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Being slow to anger, being who you are regardless of what others think, treating all people (especially those others don't treat with respect) with respect, playing by the rules/encouraging fairness, facing challenges head on and being able to communicate about them rather than running away. I think looking out for little boys safety and keeping them safe from predators, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:49 PM
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idk, i certainly want the guys who want a low n-count woman to keep looking. I'm high n count. I don't want anyone who doesn't want to be with me to be with me. But I do agree that I think the high n count people are promiscuous to be not a great metric for evaluating partners. I'd certainly give a chance to a high n count man who was no longer into hooking up. That's where I am at in life. I also don't really relate to most of your post. I have a high n count mostly bc men relentlessly pursue w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:47 PM
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Yes, that is what we want you to do. 👍 Contrary to however this belief got started, no means "no" not "keep trying".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:44 PM
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Correct. I am telling you women do not experience those feelings bc sex w men is usually unsatisfying for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:33 PM
3

Why assume they are lying vs assuming they are telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:23 PM
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I don't have to. I can just look at my behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:22 PM
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No, a man has intrinsic worth as a human being. His worth is not affected by whether I am attracted to him or not. When I am looking for a partner, I want someone who wants me specifically. Many men will lie about being interested in me in order to get sex or some other resource from me. Vetting for actual interest in me is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:21 PM
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10000% I can't see how people can visit prostitutes without considering it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:20 PM
1

" I mean even the most butch dykes resemble autistic, short, overweight, betas" They're beautiful and fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:18 PM
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Because men have orgasms from sex with women. Most women (9/10) don't have orgasms from having sex with men. Masturbation/being able to make yourself orgasm plays different roles considering what sex is like for the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:17 PM
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This is what "no means keep asking" codified into law looks like.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 06:10 PM
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Those are women who aren't fit though. Anyone who works out knows the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:08 PM
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She can be shy *and* just not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:07 PM
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"no sane woman would play hard to get with a man that they actually wanted." I would. No matter how good the guy is, if he's not chasing me, he's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:07 PM
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Counter view: attractive women are hard to get. They aren't playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:05 PM
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I could read your thoughts on this forever!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 04:57 PM
6

Wow.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 04:55 PM
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I assume fit women who go to the gym know what fit men who are frequenting their spaces look like We’re on apps too. I know what men who describe themselves as fit look like. It’s def many average men. Personal trainer is one of the most common jobs on old
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:39 PM
2

Seems immoral and destined to hurt people you love and ruin your reputation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:32 PM
1

Please advertise this so us non slim women can opt out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:30 PM
18

I assumed it was easier for fit people to date other fit people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:30 PM
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What are the young men doing with your daughter then??? Fuckin enablers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 02:16 AM
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1 nightmare
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/21 12:46 AM
1

Well some expectations are unreasonable so I’d want to become aware that I have that expectation so I can figure out a healthier way to meet that need.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 11:55 PM
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Are there any tools for recognizing you have covert expectations you aren’t conscious of?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 11:47 PM
5

I feel like I lost my whole 20s to dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 11:12 PM
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Wow. This is so true. I def am one of these women that used to be a huge people pleaser, esp to men. Then I slowly started hearing these things and seeing them treat women who were thinner than me, etc just as bad as they treat me and I realized it doesn’t matter. Men will be men so I get to be released from the burden of trying to please them and live life on my own terms.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 11:08 PM
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I’m so proud of this woman and happy for her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 10:41 PM
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If they want another woman, they should be with another woman. How is wanting another woman love? You seem to want women to be mommies who are excited by the bare minimum of a guy not fucking around on them. Why would anyone get married if that’s all marriage is? I could just stay single and have a better life than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 10:08 PM
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I will sleep in the house I bought and paid for. Yes, buying a dinner is more of a sign of love than going home from work? If you want to include better examples of “showing love” that’s fine but going home and hanging out is what literally everyone does after work. I’ve done that w roommates I didn’t love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:36 PM
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