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angatar_/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:51 AM
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Some of the top comments have numerous examples of feminists and even people from r/srs and /r/againstmensrights I'm sure those claims were well sourced. I also heard SRS did a hostile takeover of /r/FacebookCleavage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 08:27 PM
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I don't know if people caught the sarcasm in this post, but I'm making fun of the OP because that's not a minor grievance. At all.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:48 PM
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Didn't you read the OP? Confusing Ukraine and the US is a minor grievance.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 10:45 PM
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All those spots on the lifeboats while the men went down with the ship? That was just another form of oppression to them. What a nice way to weasel out of this statement. Who is it those "feminists" say are being "oppressed"? What do they mean? Do they leave it at this or do they expand on it? Is this accounted for in elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:08 PM
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Diverse groups of people Alright, but why would this make it an all or no one situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:00 PM
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I feel like this could only be true if the TRP was a single monolithic thought. This. I don't know how you reached this conclusion, or why the later sentences support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:54 PM
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Why does it have to be "everyone overreacting" or "no one overreacting"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:47 PM
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I don't think it's condemning all changes in opinion, but the overreactive changes. I personally don't really care for it, but a post I was reading earlier reminded me of it so I decided to get some thoughts. indicative of the truth lying somewhere between the first and second options, which I doubt many RP critics would support. I don't really think it implies that, but let's say it does. What exactly would critics not support?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:47 AM
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when people believed the earth was flat I've always liked this when talking about flat Earth theories. The difference between the Earth being flat and the Earth being a sphere is a tiny measurement: "The curvature of such [a spherical Earth] is about 0.000126 per mile, a quantity very close to 0 per mile[.]" It's been known for millenia that the Earth is not flat. More accurate data was necessary to get more accurate theories. Going from feminism to The Red Pill is obviously a much bigger differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:42 AM
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It wasn't a serious question, I'm just poking fun. When did the Iraq War end?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:35 AM
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Are you going to offer an actual rebuttal or is this just a sarcastic confession?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:18 AM
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In short it's free comedy. If I were to look at it seriously, no, I do not think it has positives. It's just a clusterfuck of terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:07 AM
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You'd start another war?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:56 AM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 01:53 AM
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How long have you been Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:17 PM
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If they were interested in actual discussion they wouldn't spend their time in /r/TheBluePill Posting in /r/TheBluePill and being interested in actual discussion are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:16 PM
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What was the dickish part?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:13 PM
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Every example in life confirms TRP's validity, except the massive amount that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:28 AM
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People also like confidence, thats where TRP comes in. I don't see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:26 AM
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what I was taught about women that was wrong enough to be ruining my life. What was happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:17 AM
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If I were running it I would attempt to do so a bit differently. How so? There's obviously some trigger happy shit that goes down there in terms of bans. Do you honestly think you'd be helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:05 AM
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I was a participant on this sub before I started frequenting /r/TheBluePill. My only posts in /r/TheRedPill were attempts at fair understanding, and that was before I joined /r/TheBluePill. I was subbed to /r/RedPillWomen for months before coming to this sub or /r/TheBluePill. My mind has not been made up, and I've actually changed my mind before. This would be analogous to Jon Stewart asking for his own show on Fox News, and being miffed when he's turned down (or banned in your case). Not at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:57 AM
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It's been three years and the analogy has not only not caught on, it's still being explained to those who actually pay attention. But fuck-buddies is already well known and doesn't need to be explained (especially not to /r/TheRedPill's target audience, straight young males looking for casual sex). Or maybe using unique language helps differentiate ourselves. Things just evolve sometimes. Edginess, really. I agree. I'd take a wild guess at why /r/TheRedPill's terminology has evolved to be so deh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:53 AM
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Your snide remark was just rude Red Pillers pride themselves on their non-PC-ness... yet rudeness is a a contributing factor to being banned? I've noticed that hypocrisy before. This is necessary to eliminate any potential troll's capacity to interact with the sub. I'm a troll? When have I ever trolled /r/TheRedPill?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:47 AM
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I've found analogies are very often used to describe simple things in /r/TheRedPill, and that the analogies need to be explained so often seems to defeat the purpose. Friends-with-benefits is not a foreign concept to all but the most sheltered; why does it need an analogy? Since the word choice is a defining part of /r/TheRedPill, is it an attempt to be edgy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:42 AM
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I wouldn't call it a financial abortion; it gives a false sense of equivalence and legitimacy between the ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:38 AM
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Yup, probably fuck-buddy or friends-with-benefits. Why not just use those words if they're causing you problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:34 AM
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Ah, I see where I went 'wrong': you said "expressed purposes of mockery," so if someone intentionally mocks you then you'd feel the need to ban them. Which is amusing because you'd ban me for being snide- the opposite of express mockery. So I think the answer to that question is, "Yes, mockery is a bannable offense."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:28 AM
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Mockery is a bannable offense?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:19 AM
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That is an attack on who we are I find it curious that the words you use are such an essential part of your being. Is "plate" just a harsh synonym to something non-Red Pillers us? what we're worth Are you worth how much an internet stranger feels like gives you dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:19 AM
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All of reddit is on some level a circle jerk. I'm not sure what your point is. Tu quoque?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:14 AM
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Would you ban every person who has ever posted in a sub disagreeing with /r/TheRedPill, or just those who post in /r/TheBluePill?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:11 AM
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Yes, it makes all the difference. One sub's purpose is to be a circlejerk, while the other one (un)intentionally is. Those two aren't really comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:09 AM
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Known to post in TBP This is a bannable offense? your little snide remark about me making a lot of mistakes in this sub Pointing out that you don't know the difference between mean, median, and mode is a valid criticism of you, considering how often you post statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:07 AM
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Rule 1 on SRS is that it is a intentional circlejerk, and breaking the jerk is a bannable offense. It's out for all to see, but people still get confused. Is /r/TheRedPill an intentional circlejerk and is that expressly stated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:03 AM
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I'd love to hear your explanation on why I was banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:01 AM
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No, there are plenty of places that dispense advice already. Yet another one will do nothing. Make your subreddit if you'd like, but I won't be joining you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 02:00 AM
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You're essentially saying we are not worthy of advice which seems like more of an ad-hominem, emotional argument /u/sretiderytsan's argument was...? There was literally no argument that I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 01:58 AM
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I'm not sure I follow; why is acting on emotions inherently illogical if you surround yourself with assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/14 12:08 AM
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It suggests that women are more emotionally driven than men because they rationalise emotional reactions instead of using logical reasoning. What situation is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/14 12:07 AM
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This is the mega-post on solipsism, for those wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 09:51 PM
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Your language is literally going to be rounded up and thrown into prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 08:24 PM
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He is immune to facts. The only source he will accept is his own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 08:21 PM
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Is acting on emotions inherently illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 08:17 PM
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So you do not challenge the efficacy or usefulness of the red pill, and your participation here is completely unrelated? I've said it before several times; I came here because of SRD and I stayed because it's amused me. Since the drama llamas have gone, my participation has decreased. Before today, I've only been on the sub a couple times in the past few weeks. That I seriously do not believe, and you'd be crooked to suggest it. I'm real proud. But that's just it, you've provided me a testable h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 04:35 AM
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This depends on how much you understand about political science, or game theory. The president didn't punch his way into office because he can't. Why doesn't he punch his the House into doing what he wants? Why is gerrymandering looked down upon? I think these are loaded questions. I just think they're questions you can't satisfactorily answer without contradicting previous answers. If masculinity doesn't depend on context, and alpha is defined as masculinity, and alpha is defined as what is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 04:35 PM
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He's cutting it up to fit their aim. Which is what the real constant in alpha is. Every individual Red Piller defines alpha differently, but it's what they think is ideal. Surely the President lies to us, sometimes he has no choice. It's interesting that you chose an example like this, and not a Savannah-ancestor example. How many small groups work well when everyone is lying to each other and hurting each other? Why didn't the president punch his way into office? In a deleted post in this sub, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 04:13 PM
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I think it's a mistake to think of it is contextual Ah, okay, you disagree with /u/redpillschool on what alpha means. Is your view of "alpha" still coherent with /r/TheRedPill's if you disagree with the founder? How about this post which says that alphas would lie, cheat, and employ violence? Are those good leadership qualities? No you actually you employed a very typical logic trick. Ugh, logic getting in the way again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:34 PM
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I am, of course, speaking to the context of your very presence here on ppd, which precedes all conversations. Actually I just had a conversation with the mods last night that said that this sub isn't really about just debating /r/TheRedPill. Funny. It doesn't preclude you challenging something, but when the entirety of your challenge does not bring forth a model that has better results, it's a useless challenge. This really doesn't make sense. If we apply this to the example I described above, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:26 PM
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Here's the deal... alpha is leadership So masculinity is contextual, and thus what is alpha is contextual? I agree that masculinity has changed. Just as an example; a leader crying today likely wouldn't be conducive. I'm sure you could find other examples. Bad logic. Always stumbling onto that one, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:14 PM
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Why would I be more specific? You are the one challenging the efficacy and usefulness of the red pill. You've forgotten how this conversation started. Here is the context. There was no challenging of efficacy or usefulness in that post. Besides, I even if I was "challenging efficacy and usefulness"... I don't see how that would preclude me or contradict me from asking what you think is good (in form, quality, content, etc.) advice. It fills my needs: Well the advice you said was the worst would …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:06 PM
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Could you be more specific and explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 02:54 PM
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I know almost nothing about college athletics, so I can't really discuss this further, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 06:27 AM
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I'm assuming you mean the tvtropes redshirt... In your original comment mentioning redshirts it was being compared to black hat. I maintain that there is a difference between those two; black hat describes a person's traits, redshirt doesn't. Of course, I don't think I really have a problem with people naming tropes. The real life counterpart to redshirt would be cannon fodder, which I do have a problem with. I suppose that's a major difference between plate and redshirt; the former is a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 06:14 AM
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They are comparable. Analogies aren't meant to be perfect. Anything is similar to anything else, except for the ways they're different. The difference is sufficiently large enough between "black hat" and "plate" that you can't take a description/argument/whatever for/against one and immediately apply it to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:56 AM
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Which is my point. There is a difference, and because of that difference I do not think "redshirt", "black hat", and "plate" are comparable. I looked back and see now that you've edited that post after I replied to it. Well, that explains part of the confusion. My exhaustion usually causes my spelling and grammar issues. I write one thing, backspace too little, and then the whole thing is a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:41 AM
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I'd say the easiest short definition is that alpha is the personification essence of masculinity. Does that mean masculinity is contextual? When are Camaros, fishing, and football not masculine? Truly, one could write thousands of pages on alpha, and it's origination as an idea. I don't think that's your interest. Actually, I'd fucking love that. The less nebulous you are the less slippery. Of course if you're like other Red Pillers I've seen, it'll be a thousand pages of words but only a few pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:35 AM
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You took "the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual" word-for-word from the first definition provided for by Google. It sums up what I meant, so I used it. Should I have come up with my own? Maybe searched a few pages back? In the context of our discussion, we were clearly talking about a films, and the second definition would have been any ordinary person's natural assumption: "a person in a novel, play, or movie." ... ESPECIALLY when we're referring to black hats and redshirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:25 AM
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Character as in "the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual," not "Darth Vader".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 04:36 AM
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Even by common dictionary and wiki standards, the term "black hat" and "white hat" are summarily treated as nouns. Which is a major difference, I believe. "Black hat" is the character of a person. Would it be correct of me to assume that unlike pickup_sticks you do in fact care about the metaphor, not just the actual namecalling (referring to people as objects)? I don't really know. I didn't expect to stay here so long and I've forgotten much of it through tiredness, sorry. It's difficult to par…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 04:07 AM
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I'll restate my questions: could you give me an example of advice that people should emulate and why they should emulate it? If you don't answer them after three direct and acknowledged times, I'm going to conclude that you do not actually want to help us help you. In that case, I doubt the sincerity of your complaints. It'd appear that you'd made up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 04:01 AM
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Shame on you for treating such an important subject with such snideness. Your complaint was that the advice was too general; the logical conclusion is that we must be more specific. Recording lines for you is specific. Is specificity not what you want? I'll restate my questions: could you give me an example of advice that people should emulate and why they should emulate it? You critique the red pill's advice, but offer no better alternative. Like in my example above, I don't need to give you an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:55 AM
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You keep stating that he's an alpha; could you tell me what an alpha is? Is it coherent with the rest of TRP's alpha? Good try though. Try what? I don't know what I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:49 AM
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Currently the best advice I've heard from blue pillers I'd like to hear the worst advice. Grand advice chief! I don't understand what you want. Should I record some lines for you to say? Could you give me an example of advice people should try and emulate, and why they should? example This is long-winded and you've just restated what you said before; misguided caricatures of people, positions, and reasons on all sides. Could you simplify that even more (simple is the point of this)- try and keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:47 AM
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I assume you shorten it because it flows better, like chem or bio. What is plate short for? Edit: I could choose another example more relevant, if you'd wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:37 AM
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So, hypothetically, if you came to me and told me the sky is green, and I said, "no it isn't, look up," you'd continue believing the sky was green because I didn't present an alternative possibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:33 AM
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I think I misread your post, but I still don't see how it'd be analogous (thus the relevance). White hat is an adjective, plate is a noun (for the purpose of this discussion). The problem is when "plate" replaces the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:30 AM
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so your critique is going to fall on deaf ears unless you've got some better advice. Which you don't. I'm not really understanding this position. Are you saying that (hypothetically) you'd put forth a proposition, have it torn apart by others, and you'd double down on that proposition because no one else offered an alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:23 AM
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Using (incomplete) information from wikipedia, I'd guess that the white hat/black hat dichotomy was coined by a movie fan in a time when westerns were more popular. White hats would be good guys, black hats would be bad. It's the name of a trope repurposed to describe intentions, rather than dehumanization. I don't know if that's what you already know or not, and I don't really see the parallel to calling someone a "plate".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:14 AM
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If Billy Gates isn't alpha, TRP is just wrong. Since TRP being wrong isn't a possibility, that forces us to believe Bill Gates is an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 03:02 AM
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male as an adjective and woman/women as a noun anyway This is important. "Man" and "woman" aren't commonly used adjectives, and not what people take issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 02:47 AM
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Why do hackers refer to each other as "hats" (white hats, black hats)? Do you actually know why or is this a rhetorical question?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 02:43 AM
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It's not a rational fear and that suggests it's actually a prejudice. It's called the uncanny valley, if you can call that a prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 12:44 AM
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If I saw that in the middle of the night I'd be scared. I suspect that it was placed there of all places to spark controversy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:50 PM
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I really don't know what other families look like, it was just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:47 PM
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You asked "what would you do" not "what would you do and why"- I played along as much as you wanted. I don't see a reason why I'd standardize something like that, so why should I? Let's assume for a moment I chose the stereotypical American nuclear family; why should I force Chinese families to follow me? Or Indian? Or African? Or anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:42 PM
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Assuming you're correct, what have you gained?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:34 PM
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I wouldn't, even if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:30 PM
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This sounds like hell, really for both partners, really. A good way to become self-righteous and become disconnected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 06:29 PM
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It is a guess, it is an assumption. You recognize the possibility that you or others could be wrong in making that assumption, but you choose it nevertheless, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 06:12 PM
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I assume you meant "shouldn't be making..." and not "should be making..." How does that follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 06:08 PM
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And if you do have sex with someone under those circumstances are you a rapist? The above users said "there is no way of knowing..." so how do you expect them to answer conclusively with such a vague question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 05:45 PM
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I think in some circumstances it can be, well, not-rape. You do accept that you're taking a guess, then (no matter how educated you think that guess is)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 05:43 PM
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I said the point of it is to get more convictions of rapists To which I said this is a good thing, and you said no it isn't. Your problem is not with convicting more rapists (hopefully), is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:59 AM
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The whole point of it is to get more convictions of male date rapists that use alcohol and intoxication. Good. Rapists deserve to go to prison. Its not actually good. Just a reminder on how this started and progressed. consensual sex is not rape Tautologous. But that's not what you said. You specifically referred to them as rapists, so the sex must have been rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:46 AM
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More often than not, male date rapists aren't actually rapists? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:33 AM
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get more convictions of male date rapists innocent man can become a rapist So are they rapists or are they not rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:27 AM
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Johnny Bravo was among Red Pillers' favorite shows growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 07:40 AM
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Just to be clear, you'd just assume that there is consent without conclusively checking? From this quote: That just isn't how most sex goes You seem to think that this is common behavior and is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 07:19 AM
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The whole point of it is to get more convictions of male date rapists that use alcohol and intoxication. Good. Rapists deserve to go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 07:15 AM
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And if you do have sex with someone under those circumstances are you a rapist? You might be. The above users said "there is no way of knowing..." so how do you expect them to answer conclusively with such a vague question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 07:12 AM
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What recent threads are you referring to? http://www.np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1wpjr7/be_a_feminist_and_other_red_pill_advice/ That's probably the most egregious example in the past few days. "Save yourself some hassle and tell women that your a feminist if they ask," would be a complete lie coming from a Red Piller because /r/TheRedPill is inherently anti-feminist, as we've already established. That's explicitly lying. definitely more inclusive. I don't know what this means or why it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 08:58 PM
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And straw women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:44 PM
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It was a general statement, not really specific to this chain. Goodnight, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 08:04 AM
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About The Red Pill? Everything. For the "source?" question? That wasn't me. You'll have to ask them what they want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 07:56 AM
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we're not writing a thesis we're just discussing different views /u/Vornash's post was not written like a view; it was written like a statement of fact. if you can't see it then you can't see it and probably won't see it no matter what sources he brings. We're not all as deadset as you. I could be convinced, and I believe that /u/brolosophy101 could be convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 07:36 AM
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This is not a valid source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 07:26 AM
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It was pointed to somewhere in this thread, so that's the direction I was going to go with my comment anyway. "How much?"->"Has it changed?->"Yes? No? Can't draw conclusions."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:32 AM
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Reading this post raised a question in my mind: does The Red Pill deliberately obfuscate to draw attraction? This can be split into two parts: 1| Does /r/TheRedPill support obfuscation towards potential sexual partners in order to appear more attractive? I'd say the answer is yes, and point to the recent thread(s). But does /r/TheRedPill stop there? This prompts me to ask the question: 2| Does /r/TheRedPill alter its rhetoric, vocabulary, and definitions in order to appear more attractive? I'd a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:30 AM
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Maybe, maybe not, but basing an answer off of that would be dishonest and misleading. As has been said many times in this sub, you cannot point to biology in the way Red Pillers so often do as an explanation for that, if it were the case. Expectations are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:15 AM
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"Because it matters for men if, say, their girlfriend or wife lives in their parents basement and has no dreams. A lot of women couldn't care less if their SO didn't have a killer resume." I can do that because you've used vague words. How much is "a lot of men"? Since I doubt you mean to say all women in the first sentence, how much is "women" supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 02:52 AM
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Why do you descend into platitudes all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 02:25 AM
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No man in his right mind would identify as a feminist. Can you tell me more about this disease I have? Without descending into "liberalism is a disorder" and similar chains, of course. What's your medical experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 02:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure /r/FedoraRights is a thing, though I don't remember if that is the sub or not. It was something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 05:03 PM
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I agree; almost every community on reddit will grow, but there is a point where growth will slow down or stop. Besides that, I'd bet that the people drawn to TRP already have that TRP mindset, just no community. The growth of TRP doesn't really bother me. p.s. You have -1 downvotes on my RES. Interesting little fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 04:59 PM
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Wait what do you mean here? I've been told almost verbatim, "Prostitution is Red Pill." That's -apparently- up to each of you to decide what that means. Why are you asking this anyway? I want to understand. How many times do I need to be (falsely) accused of not understanding before I begin to ask? These aren't quick and simple answers. If you really want to know go read up. I wasn't aware that your answers didn't count as reading. I didn't ask you to reply in the first case, and I'd have no pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 02:14 AM
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I've been told by other Red Pillers that it's alpha and/or Red Pill to have sex with a prostitute. Now it depends on whether I'm alpha or beta? What is an alpha and what is a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 01:56 AM
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No you're not inside those groups. It's why purple pill debate exists in the first place, isn't it? Then you're preaching to a choir, I guess. I wouldn't limit my definition of "TRP" to those who believe in TRP and don't question it, though, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 02:12 PM
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I imagine I have fallen into at least three or four of those categories at one point or another or even now. I am not allowed to question or think for myself? Have I not been doing that for however many months I've been here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 01:50 PM
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This is pretty much why I take issue with your quote. It's too strong and too vague. Why should I care if that's case? You should care because it's the truth, if you really believe that quote. What's outside of that simulation is still natural Is it? You're assuming it's natural, and then concluding it's natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 01:36 PM
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Naturalism is a basic principle of science; it cannot function without it. Can or should we doubt naturalism? Edit: by cannot I mean that it is not science once you start using other explanations
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 12:21 PM
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Yes. There is no proof nor will ever be that we're not living in a completely imaginary world. Sure, I could agree with this for now. Stop. No. Science doesn't pursue confirmations of beliefs. No assumptions? There are literally no principles that are incontrovertibly held to be true by science?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 11:17 AM
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None of those can prove what I asked you to prove. All of those require an initial assumption (that our senses are accurate) and then we use answers that conform to that. The best example might be this one: You build machines that have those senses and see what they register. We have to calibrate things. We alter machines to get answers that we want, that conform. Is this not the kind of thing that you were arguing against in your original OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 10:38 AM
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You have no OP, and your title isn't clear on what you mean. You'll have to wait for him to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:36 PM
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Are we confusing "women being submissive" with "all women being submissive"? I believe /u/mrsamsa is talking about the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:30 PM
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Women that want a traditional lifestyle are still demonized by some other women that identify as feminist. So feminism doesn't rail against women being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:18 PM
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This is one of those times I see it as a joke. And you've projected that feeling onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:11 PM
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You don't control what Red Pill says, you have no influence. The only thing about Red Pill that you can do, is try to understand it. There is literally nothing I can do to change what Red Pillers say or do? The only thing I can do is sit here and listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:08 PM
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you measure multiple times with multiple instruments and get the best result you can at that time with those resources. How do you know your senses aren't faulty? How do you know when they're working correctly or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 07:52 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:49 PM
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I have several questions from before /r/MensRights even came up. How'd I guess that it would derail the entire conversation? It must be magic. Whatever, man, good-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:40 PM
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Whatever you say, bro. If you want a real response you can answer the questions you've been ignoring in your posts throughout this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:26 PM
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What if I told you senses weren't perfect? Everyone has hallucinated, heard a sound, yelled "ow!" when they weren't actually hurt... Do you still trust your senses?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<sup>/r/badphilosophydon'tkillme</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:24 PM
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argument It wasn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:21 PM
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I told you before that I wasn't going to argue with you over this. Why are you trying to get me to argue with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:11 PM
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I know you think that, but I said I wasn't going to argue over it. I recognize you as an MRA who supports AVfM, which only solidified my choice. Feel free to answer the rest, if you so choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:06 PM
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It was specified in the the OP what exactly I mean here by a belief system I don't see where. Feel free to consider this conversion not worth having with me. Simplifying: Hume is an empiricist; he believes that all knowledge comes from the senses. Descartes believes knowledge is derived from the mind/logic. Do either of these sound appealing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:03 PM
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That's why they aren't taken seriously. Sometimes feminism is unstoppable and pervasive, other times it's seen as a joke, other times it's seen as all-powerful... Don't confuse your feelings with the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:56 PM
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What does a belief system mean to you? It's not something you have to believe in blindly. Hume v Descartes, who do you believe and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:35 PM
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/r/mensrights is less extreme than the average feminist area. lol you can find stuff in the women's mainstream media that rivals the worst of trp. lol I think in the context of this red pill we are taking about, there is generally only red pill and blue pill. This is a false dichotomy Red Pillers often set up. I'm either a rejecting the Blue Pill or your very specific definition of Blue Pill above. I don't think I fall into the latter, so the obvious answer is that I am Red Pill, but obviously I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:31 PM
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So it's not anyone who gives you belief systems is your enemy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:16 PM
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[most of reddit] is horrified by men that advocate for men's equality I can only assume you mean /r/MensRights and their ilk, and I don't feel like arguing over that, but it's not as innocuous as you're trying to make it seem. [the majority of redditors] speak about women the same way that women's mainstream media speaks about men. Which is how? "Women's mainstream" sounds like a contradiction, too; is it targeting women? I'm going to take the lack of an answer to that first question as "no". So…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 12:18 AM
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I can't quote you on that second paragraph in the OP, so I can't continue to be specific about that, and thus you. However, let's take this: Anybody who gives you a belief system is your enemy, because the belief system becomes the barrier for your eyes, you cannot see the truth. Is, say, Hume my enemy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 11:08 PM
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That you put forth your beliefs in someone else's quote sounds quite ironic. Why do you think you've escaped bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 09:23 PM
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No. This topic doesn't merit serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:04 PM
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lue Pill means the general culture where men accept that its ok for women to criticize men as a group, and treat them badly, while its a heresy in the reverse and people perceive women as being made of sugar and spice because that's whats normalized, and a bunch of other set observations. Am I Blue Pill? How many people are Blue Pill? Can you prove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 01:33 PM
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We have a minuscule amount of academia surrounding the idea, precisely because it's not politically correct. I doubt that is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 05:06 AM
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Is there gonna be a mod civil war between /u/PurplePillDebate v /u/alphabetmod on whether it's a troll or not? Who will survive? There can only be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:03 AM
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Do you think short-term hurts aren't worth long-term benefits? I'm asking because in conjunction with /u/CFRProflcopter's post below, the only other realistic alternative seems to be stick with the traditions that made the Japanese unhappy. Why should a society stick with a tradition that is hurting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:52 AM
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Now that this won't be the only comment in the thread... [irony]Coming here. It offers a false sense of legitimacy to /r/TheRedPill that I really do not think it deserves.[/irony]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:46 AM
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Fuck your source. Fuck your peer reviewed research. Its bad, simply, because you're being a selfish fucking whore. Shit, we lost, guys. Pack it in, /u/mrsamsa, you're just never going to reach this level of discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:40 AM
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It'd probably be easier to list the users who he didn't get in a slapfight with, so I'm gonna say I was one of those users. I'll give myself the title "/u/redpillschool slayer".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:33 AM
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That's a really stretched comparison. At least both /r/TheRedPill and /r/MensRights are anti-feminist. What's the overlap between /r/AskWomen and /r/PurplePillDebate... women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:28 AM
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Most Red Pillers used to be Blue Pill and self-proclaimed feminists. Proclaiming yourself a feminist is clearly not mainstream if 80% of people don't proclaim themselves as that (I also suspect that percentage is higher for men than women, throwing another spanner in). Your talk about feminist views doesn't really matter if I'm talking about something different, which I am and have been. As "Blue Pill" means anything other than Red Pill, I believe it's worthless to try and talk about specifics t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:25 AM
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If numbers are to be believed, only 20% of people identify as feminist, probably with a lower percentage of men. Hardly mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 08:13 PM
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Was I one of those users?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 07:10 PM
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/u/redpillschool is literally the only Red Piller here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:08 PM
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The whole point of red pill is its one of the last places that don't get censored. I was censored, along with many others. You do not understand what /r/TheRedPill is about, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:20 PM
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At least deactivating the Selective Service. Complete removal would be my ideal, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:12 AM
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Our empire is falling, like previous ones before it, for the same reasons and exhibiting the same symptoms. Can you give examples of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:03 AM
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Time to troll through the defaults for good contributors?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:56 AM
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Most Red Pillers used to be Blue Pill and self-proclaimed feminists. Can you prove this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:53 AM
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It's because solipsism has been censored here. Look at all the censorship rules over on askwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:12 AM
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Look at all the censorship rules over on askwomen. It appears you're lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:09 AM
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Mmmm... feminist-censorship. Delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:04 AM
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I love how the use of solipsism has dropped (here, at least) since that bestof'd post. Progress is being made, slowly but surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:04 AM
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The dynamic of "beta bux" is not that betas don't get sex, it's that they have to pay for it. Is paying a prostitute alpha or beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 05:05 AM
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I'm going to take your reluctance to give numbers to /u/twentyfoursevensex as evidence that they aren't on your side, despite what you claim. I'm also going to take your non-answers to my two questions as, "I can't discount that possibility when drawing conclusions after looking at 'surprise' divorces," and, "I don't know how many people have actual surprise divorces". That cool with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:50 AM
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Terrible at noticing warning signs that the relationship is going south. If they were surprised by a divorce, they must have missed something. How many people unpredictably (etc.) file for divorce with zero warning?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:40 AM
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You keep asking for debatable material and then you stop responding. Why is that, /u/totorox?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:28 AM
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Even if these numbers were to superficially support you, how do you know that the men caught "off-guard and surprised" by a divorce aren't just terrible partners that do not or cannot notice warning signs that the relationship is going south?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:20 AM
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This one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:14 AM
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Point 3: If Socrates were alive today people would ask him for sources on his philosophies. /r/badphilosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 12:55 AM
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No you couldn't. I couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 12:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is just the GIFT at work. People are assholes when they have anonymity and an audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 12:12 AM
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TRP isn't interested in what could be, only with what is. So much for self-improvement, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:44 PM
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I suppose we'll have to agree that I'm right and move along, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 04:39 AM
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AMR is focused on /r/MensRights and the occasional Red Piller. I haven't seen that kind of thing (all men...) in a month of browsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 04:13 AM
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I haven't got the impression that AMR is emotional and illogical. Many users have some good criticisms. This comment stands out as an example: ...[list of "ambiguous" rape scenarios]... Or rape after rescinding consent? Rape after rescinding consent is not ambiguous, or ridiculous. I don't actually feel like debating this, but I do take issue with the "emotional and illogical" labeling of AMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:45 AM
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You should add another rule: Be a buzzkill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:39 AM
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Usually us plebians are told to not play mod. I'm going to have fun with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:30 AM
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I can't help but be reminded of /r/badphilosophy, sorry. Too many bad posts here for me to also be contributing with my shitposting about Wittgenstein and Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:04 AM
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I saw a post on RPW that I (mis)read as "I got threatened with a ban on PPD" or something, and then noticed all her posts were gone. This makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:01 AM
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She came to /r/TheBluePill before I knew anything about her. I just assumed she was a lost Red Piller, and as usual, directed them here if they wanted to fight it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:00 AM
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He has quite an ironic username.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:53 AM
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I'm just cautious. I invited (?) berryokt and I'm beginning to regret that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:45 AM
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You've failed to elucidate your point. Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:58 AM
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Let's replace /u/PurplePillDebate with /u/redpillschool so we can have a true unbiased debate!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:54 AM
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What a shame. The two of the biggest root vegetables disappear when I'm gone? I'm sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:52 AM
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You could start your own sub, if you'd like. I doubt you'd make a more impartial sub than this one. You could look at /r/RedPillDebate to see where your sub would likely end up, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:49 AM
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Should I stop suggesting members to come here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:43 AM
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I don't think /r/TheRedPill gives any good advice that is not given by others more effectively. Any good advice is drowned out by the overwhelming amount of bullshit masquerading as advice, truth, or field reports. Saying /r/TheRedPill has some merit is a disservice to good pick-up artists and advisers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:42 AM
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Was dana also banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:20 AM
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You know the vote counts are fuzzed and only the difference is a real number, right? Fuzzing is only a big factor at higher vote totals. Fuzzing isn't going to do much on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:15 AM
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This is also the reason I have the subreddit-style disabled on this sub. I prefer the bland look; too much going on and it starts looking like a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:13 AM
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Your complaint is about the name, rather than the content?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:09 PM
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That's quite a tangent you went off on, there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 01:02 PM
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VAWA I've asked you about this before. What "caters" to women in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 12:51 PM
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That's a generalization that doesn't hold; I don't believe the Aztecs were a matriarchy and they were conquered earlier, by less men, and with worse technology. The type of society some Native American tribes had had little (if any, really) effect on how the Native Americans as a whole were conquered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 09:56 AM
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Why do you hate that phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 09:39 AM
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A woman, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 08:47 AM
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That is literally a propaganda poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 08:38 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 07:44 PM
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This is definitely not my ideal lifestyle, so it's not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 09:07 AM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/hollander-files-human-rights-complaint-in-nyc/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 01:54 AM
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Shepherd falsely reported that the Male Studies group had ties to “hate groups,” one of them being A Voice for Men. Her article, which misleadingly suggested a connection between the Male Studies group and the A Voice for Men website... Elam is trying to distance his site from the group when members of the group had written for him, especially in the bold. Anyway, I might go more in-depth with this article because it's quite stupid, and that just sounds like fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 02:25 PM
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The AVfM article is complete BS. The lecturers had even written for AVfM and they still tried to deny any connection between each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 12:12 PM
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I agree with this that neutrality is misguided. One of your recent submissions was deleted on grounds on neutrality. Asking again: Will The Red Pill Revolution Be Violent? Don't. The system is what it is, and the system has made any method other than violent revolution impossible for men to regain rights. Allowing women's suffrage and giving majority control of government over to women has made this so: politicians answer to votes, and unless we make them answer to force the greater women's vote…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 08:00 AM
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I don't really pay attention to the subject, but I was under the impression that Women's Studies are/were being phased out in favor of Gender Studies, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:46 AM
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I should just use my degree to sop up my moon cycle. Just as Darwin intended. God bless science!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:36 PM
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This is not a valid defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:38 PM
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If even the defaults call you out on being misogynistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 04:44 PM
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How much of a role do you think the threat of a draft plays in preventing war on US soil when compared to things like logistics, alliances, military strength, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:59 AM
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/u/redpillschool is my favorite terp. How'd you get unbanned, by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 07:30 PM
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I shouldn't have said anything because this guy just goes on and on and on. I should've learned my lesson the first time when he just wouldn't accept that breaking the rules in /r/creepyPMs would get him banned on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 07:14 PM
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Oh because i'm an asshole. I originally didn't post the quote because it was an insult. Rather than do that, I just repeated what you said back to you to see if you would see how ridiculous what you said was. You doubled down on that- you're free to renege any time you'd like, by the way, no harm done. In my first post, I explained the common denominator is skills. Skills or lack of skills. That are part of the identity of a person. In this case you. AKA, common denominator is you. I'm sorry, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 06:46 PM
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Honestly if you hadn't posted the response saying I need to reflect on what an asshole is we wouldn't be on this stupid topic. What an asshole is defined as is completely irrelevant to the point I made; you brought it up, though. If you need your hand held: First definition: I perfectly understand why the southern states seceded from the Union to create the Confederate States of America. They are still assholes, though. Therefore, your definition doesn't work. Second definition: this definition …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 05:56 PM
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That's the same statement. No it's not. I'm doubting you know what "cold logic" is if you cannot see the difference between the two definitions you've provided and insist are the same. It doesn't really matter, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 05:27 PM
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Well if RP sub is like that, then it's reasonable to expect RPs to do the same in other subs. That would be a barrage of deletion request. ...Therefore, it's Red Pillers who want the safe-space. Good, I agree with that statement. In other words you have a frame that isn't beneficial to your growth. I challenge you to describe an asshole that is anything but a person with a perspective that's differs from yours. You've changed your statement from "assholes have a perspective you aren't willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 05:06 PM
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That's RP sub is like it that, and I think it's silly. I'm talking about here. I've even mentioned that in this chain of replies. There is no such thing as assholes, it's just a person holding a perspective that you aren't willing to understand. No. This doesn't even make sense, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 04:49 PM
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Yes cause BPers would just leave and not sit here. Reddit isn't really an emotionally safe environment. People are unreasonably afraid of downvotes. That cracks me up. So Red Pillers calling for deletion of non-neutral posts is really evidence of Blue Pillers needing a safe-space? Nope, I never run into assholes. In fact, I've never met one. Maybe cause i'm a bigger one, idk. You should reflect on that quote if this is what you got out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 04:24 PM
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It's hard to argue points strongly. Repeating things ad nauseam gets old. Can you link me to any where you had a quality argument that drove a Blue Piller away? When it's not about them in the slightest. No. "How women and men and all their interpersonal relationships are" applies to almost everyone. emotion Can you link me to Red Pill arguments here that are high quality logic? Arguing with BP at any depth has to be in an emotionally safe environment. Any evidence for this? The calls for deleti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 04:12 PM
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I hope you're not serious, and to go one step further, I beg you to do some introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 03:36 PM
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Of course every Blue Piller that has a conversation with you leaves. It's because of a trait common to those people, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 03:32 PM
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I'm going to guess that that is a yes, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 11:28 PM
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Are you agreeing with her comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 10:47 PM
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I don't know what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:55 PM
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Your description of it precludes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:38 PM
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particular actions and responses. These responses includes feelings. I hope you are not having sex with people who have no desire to have sex with you. less important than what you actually yourself do to provoke particular actions and responses. How do you know what caused a reaction? How do you learn which reactions are caused by what? Are you sure that it's simply what you do that causes a reaction, with the unknown factors having little to no influence? you should always place your own needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:53 PM
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Locker room talk refers to the way groups of men tend to unabashedly express themselves to each other, often with offensive/politically incorrect undertones. Not concealing your desire to kill someone doesn't make it okay, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:35 PM
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Rather than disown these comments, or delete them, the Red Pillers in this thread attack you /u/soulcakeduck for bringing it to light.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:30 PM
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I don't see how anyone can be interested in The Red Pill if they're not also interested in having sex or getting into a relationship with a women. How the women feels is important for those goals, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 08:15 PM
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You start getting to know someone as soon as you meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 08:06 PM
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BTW I'm banned from TRP for being too contrary (I guess? they never gave me a good reason) such freeze peach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 05:30 AM
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Are women's feeling not real, and thus not part of "how things are"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 04:29 AM
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After spending months here, I'm doubting Red Pillers know how things are. How many field reports include the Red Piller asking how a women feels and why? Compare that to the number of field reports that claim "this is how the women feels and why."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 04:16 AM
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I love drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 04:12 AM
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These are a lot of questions and I don't think I can answer them all timely or satisfactorily. Please go get professional help. Why change the truth because it is a futuristic year? First of all, you're assuming it's the truth. You'd have to show that it's the truth, which brings me to the second point: there's more to us than just biology*. What works in the Sahara doesn't necessarily work in downtown Manhattan or in the Arctic. What worked in ancient Rome doesn't necessarily work in modern Rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 04:02 AM
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You can't prove, and I can't disprove, these feelings you get without some concrete examples to work with. It's fair to say that we can disregard that until something we can work with comes along, okay? They have all around been pretty vicious regarding my personal decisions. I'd call myself a feminist, and I have not been hostile to you in the past. I've disproved this. Regarding your personal decisions, I've read a few of your posts and I agree with others that it sounds abusive. Using drugs l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 02:56 AM
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The reddit admins are why violence and racism aren't allowed on TRP. It looks like reddit is a terrible choice for The Red Pill to even exist, since "censorship" is practiced from the admins on down to the users, apparently. I guess that makes the question even more pertinent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 02:37 AM
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They feel personally used and slighted by any woman being submissive. Could you give examples of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 01:57 AM
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You guys have a website of your own that you've already set-up off reddit. Why hasn't everyone moved there to get their dose of racism and violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 01:33 AM
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Like I said in another reply, these aren't what /u/redpillschool was arguing against. You are on a different topic than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 05:12 AM
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These aren't the VAWA, therefore not what I was looking for. /u/redpillschool specifically mentioned the VAWA. I linked the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which the VAWA is a part of. From what I read, it doesn't discriminate on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 05:10 AM
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I don't even know how you can ask the question in the title without knowing if there are differences, and I don't know how you can answer the question without knowing what the differences are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:51 AM
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I'd like to know what you guys are referring to, though. It goes something like "The one perceived as the aggressor, or the bigger threat" or some shit like that Is this you guessing at what it says, or paraphrasing? If the former- useless. If the latter- can you tell me where to find exactly what you're summarizing? If your problem is now not with the law, I don't see the point in even mentioning it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:43 AM
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I did read it, and didn't see what you were referring to. Rather than assume you were lying, I asked you to show me where to find your evidence. You haven't, though, so I'll ask again. Where can I find this: When there's a domestic abuse call, police remove the man from the home, regardless of who was attacking who. in there? Edit: and saying "google it" isn't telling me where to find it. You made a specific complaint about the ‘‘Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994’’, so I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:00 AM
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I've got to say that I'm really proud of this post. You got him to run away and defeat his argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 12:24 AM
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This is what you're referring to, no? Where can I find this: When there's a domestic abuse call, police remove the man from the home, regardless of who was attacking who. in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 11:56 PM
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By "value judgement", do you mean moral judgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 10:53 AM
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I'm not sure if you were trying to counter my conclusion or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 09:37 PM
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Slut is a gendered term specific to women, according to /u/redpillschool. And I think slut is often used as in a similar way, therefore I believe both sides can agree that these exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 01:19 PM
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I think you're not going to have an aneurysm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 01:14 PM
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Much of the movement (eh) is protesting rape culture, specifically the victim-blaming that often happens to victims. In the above picture the orange sign says, "a dress is not a yes!" to protest the excusing or explanation of rape by blaming the women's clothes. The top-right poster is pointing out that an outfit isn't an invitation or substitute for consent. Of course you can't ask for rape, but it's often said that a victim is "asking for it". I fully expect to get a reply from someone along t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 11:00 AM
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Do you understand what the slut walks are trying to impress upon people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 10:37 AM
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I've recently decided to start calling myself one, though I don't think many of my views have changed since before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 07:35 AM
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I said the thread has been solved using your post. Why does both TRP and TBP view the red pill as inherently anti feminist? Because it is explicitly antifeminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 12:13 AM
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I have a hard time telling when she's serious or not. The waters are muddy and I took a shot at what she meant, I may be wrong. I did take it as that first one, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:50 PM
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Which is my point; you're attempting redirection by pointing to something irrelevant that may or may not be antifeminist. But I think this thread has been solved; The Red Pill is explicitly antifeminist, which is why people believe it to be antifeminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:41 PM
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Alright, I look forward to your explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:30 PM
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Your own sidebar describes /r/RedPillWomen as antifeminist. It's not like the reputation is undeserved or unfounded, as you try and paint it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:29 PM
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Would you mind explaining how you got that out of my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 11:17 PM
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No you don't have to be feminist to be on /r/TheBluePill. A significant fraction of us aren't feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 10:37 PM
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That question isn't going to get sincere answers. You cannot prove any of them are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 02:56 AM
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sooo...have we come to some sort of reluctant agreement? No, it must be a duel to the death. I shall see you in hell!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<sup>sarcasm,ofcourse</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 02:47 AM
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I think that when they said their sexual strategy is amoral, it means that they do not agree with tenants of the strategy which are immoral or moral. So if something is obviously "immoral" or "moral" it isn't part of their strategy. This is an interesting way of looking at it. I'll see if it stands. All of the "immoral" "beliefs" in TRP are handwaved away because they're not what red pillers really believe. It's not that they believe rape (as shorthand and example for a list of things) is a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 02:40 AM
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I don't believe you need to love the people you are racing with. Love also isn't a requirement for sex, as evidenced by the existence of the many types of sexual relationships that do not have love. "Should" and "need" are two different things, but if you believe in "should" I can see why you think that there is a "need". Others disagree, and I don't know if the science answer you provided is true. It's not good enough for me, so I cannot agree with your second bullet. And the first is mostly ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 02:28 AM
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But racing and love dont go together like sex and love do, so you cannot conjecture the meaning you give to racing the same way you'd give it to sex. Can you explain again more thoroughly the analogy you were attempting to make and why it is valid because I am beginning to dismiss this analogy because it makes no sense to me, but want to give you 1 more chance to explain it. To be honest, I don't see how sex and love are linked if racing and love aren't. Besides that, your words were: Basically,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 02:20 AM
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I just closed the wrong tab, and lost my whole written thing. :/ In summary, I'm not satisfied with your answer to my original question because it requires a deviation from a core Red Pill belief, that sexual strategy is amoral, to convince them that one of their premises is false. This is a problem to me because the belief is assumed, and any counterexamples (like rape, this thread, etc.) are handwaved away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:57 AM
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You might be, I don't really know you well enough to form that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:55 AM
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In this case the man knows she is a slut but might be unaware to what degree of slutiness she is. Jeez, one bad relationship and she's a slut? You can be in a relationship with the people you have intercourse with......... I can have a relationship with those I'm racing........................ I hope you realize that doesn't make my opinion wrong, either. Maybe not, but it might make you an asshole. I don't have an answer for a situation which clearly is impossible. Could you try to come up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:41 AM
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Reposting from another thread: /u/redpillschool has told me that he'd allow racism and discussion of violence on The Red Pill if he thought he could get away with it. The Red Pill is obviously something more than just sexual strategy, though if /u/redpillschool believes that violence is an important part of sexual strategy I could be wrong. With /u/redpillschool's repeated assertions that /r/TheRedPill is nothing more than sexual strategy, I am curious how violence and racism fit into that. I al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 12:06 AM
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As did you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:50 PM
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Increasing your partner count makes you more of a slut. You said that you are either a slut or not a slut before. This is irrelevant as thus doesn't actually happen to this degree in real life. I'd still like an answer for that question, though. Its my personal opinion that sex should mean something. I hope you realize others see it different or would like to see it different. Not the same situation. You can't be in a relationship with your races. I also can't be in a relationship with my interc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:49 PM
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I don't recall calling myself a woman. If you have some valid criticism let it be known, but I'd appreciate it if you actually read my posts before criticizing them... although I do find it hilarious when you completely miss the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:45 PM
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I was referring to your OP in which you ask if it is immoral to use declared red pillers for dinners. My opinion is yes. You must have me confused with someone else, which I think is coloring your responses. I didn't say that was THE reason. Its just also interesting that you will reinforce this negative image of women. That's my point. My point was that no matter what one does it will reinforce their view of women, thus it's doesn't really matter what one does if they care about Red Piller's vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:37 PM
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Did he? I could've sworn I saw it. I'll look again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:30 PM
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Sure, but I'd be willing to bet that I can write up complete and total bs and still have it accepted and touted about as truth. My point is that the stories people write mean nothing because they can be outright fabricated so easily. On that, any story that goes into (read: speculates) the psychology of the others has fabricated portions. Maybe complete bs won't make the best story, but it'd be good enough to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 10:27 AM
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I get the impression that many bluepillers are quite young and inexperienced at dating themselves Which is funny because a survey of TRP iirc found most users under twenty, and almost all of them were under thirty. reddit skews young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:41 AM
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As for lying, do you think I'd be able to write a field report based on nothing and still get a number of upvotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:29 AM
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The anecdotal and lying should probably be separated into two separate threads. While they are both connected and important, trying to argue both at the same time will probably end up being futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:24 AM
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What I'm trying to say is that... If you decide to sleep with someone and it pretty much ends there, it makes you more of a slut. What's the lesser of a slut? So if I sleep with a hundred men who all marry me I am not a slut? Sex should be an emotional connection between two people; not a way to get off. Why? meaning I've run hundreds of races, each one more meaningful than the last. The first few dozen were terrible; they meant nothing to me. Now when I run I feel much more for them. This is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:19 AM
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I'd be so shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:03 AM
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Also you are supporting their premise that women treat men poorly by using them instead of loving and caring for them. This is a criticism. I should not use someone because it reinforces their premise, but obviously supporting their premise is not inherently a bad thing if being submissive is good. Moot. If you'd like to reword that, or clarify what you mean, I'd love to hear it. No, but the whole premise of your post was basically asking if it was okay to use men for dinners. Which, in my opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:03 AM
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Awesome, but that doesn't really answer whether or not I am a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:31 AM
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Even so, wouldn't this be a good thing? Your above criticism is moot, then. Do you wanna be a hateful, spiteful bitch to a gender? It's curious that the only two options are "hateful, spiteful bitch" misandrist, and submissive. Do you wanna make your boyfriend or husband feel inadequate? That reeks of insecurity if his adequacy is based on how completely I obey him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:30 AM
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In summary sleeping with someone doesn't automatically make you a slut. Slut means someone who sleeps with a lot of people. You can't have it both ways. Choose one. because you lack the amount of foresight to understand that fucking 100 people makes sex meaningless for you. Are you me? Do you know what makes something meaningful to me? Should I withhold sex from my husband so he values it? Isn't that the manipulation TRP loathes? When sex in a LTR should be an emotional thing as well. I wasn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:25 AM
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By loving and caring for them? You don't think this reinforces other premises of The Red Pill, like women are naturally submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:15 AM
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Also you are supporting their premise that women treat men poorly by using them instead of loving and caring for them. How would you convince them that this premise is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:01 AM
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In summary sleeping with someone doesn't automatically make you a slut. Getting pumped doesn't decrease your value; getting dumped does. Let's say I were to go out and fuck 100 men right now, no strings attached. Am I a slut? What if I do that all day everyday, no strings attached? Am I a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:00 AM
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You say that I can contribute nothing to TRP, but refuse to give me a reason why and lie and say you have no problem with me. I don't see why you are denying the fact that you have nothing to contribute to TRP. Because you haven't shown it yet. If you don't see why, it's safe to conclude that you think accusations are true on utterance. I look forward to your defenses of that, or your defense of your accusations (but judging by these past few posts, you're not going to do either and handwave it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 04:15 AM
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If you've got a specific problem, say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:55 AM
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If you're not going to answer me you can simply not reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:45 AM
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So there shouldn't be and aren't discussion of violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 10:17 AM
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Is that because it's against the rules or because it's not valuable to The Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 08:55 AM
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Maybe a mod saw you had nothing positive to contribute to TRP . It's interesting that you've declared yourself and the mods the arbiters on what is a positive contribution or not. Why are you saying that I can contribute nothing positive to TRP like it's a fact? It doesn't really matter since we all know you don't agree with it. What is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 03:25 AM
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I've had a conversation with this guy before and all he does is parrot the same remarks and play dumb. You've made your point, and it might be in the best interests of your sanity to end it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 09:46 PM
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For anyone who might still be interested, here is an update. TL;DR: wife has abandonment issues and the husband's stance on having children led her to believe he'd leave her if he found out about the pregnancies. Getting pregnant was a miracle, according to the doctor. They're gonna go to counselling and solve this together; he'll also get a vasectomy and she'll come to him if another pregnancy happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 10:25 AM
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Happy New Year! And the OP said that children were a deal breaker for the relationship. That doesn't leave much room for discussion. Edit: the OP nomenclature is confusing and I'm on my phone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 05:02 AM
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From the OP it sounds like they had already discussed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 04:56 AM
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Failing to disclose medical procedures to your spouse is a lie of omission and it's not acceptable. I can see why one may be obligated to inform someone of herpes, but I do not think herpes and abortion are parallels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 11:03 PM
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Here he is asking for advice because his wife has been lying to him about getting abortions I don't think any woman is obligated to tell anyone about an abortion. I'm not lying to you if I don't disclose my medical history, just as she isn't lying by not disclosing hers. He is apparently not allowed to consider himself in this situation But they already talked about it, no? She wanted kids, he didn't, and now they don't have kids. only be thinking about the pain the wife brought upon herself. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 08:08 PM
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It is a fun word.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:16 PM
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I don't really see the problem. Wife wants kids, husband doesn't. They have sex, which eventually leads to unwanted pregnancies, and the wife aborts them. That sounds like exactly what I'd expect to happen. Could you explain what your issue is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:15 PM
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Exactly why I take it to mean figuratively, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:09 PM
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I haven't posted to TRP in months. Do you have another idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 12:01 PM
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This is a direct link to the CDC report, for those interested. The relevant part is on page 58, but there isn't a whole lot more on this than what's quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 09:52 AM
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It's 4:30 in the morning, so forgive me for not immediately getting it, but what does that mean? It reads like sex taking priority is what separates men from women; at that point, you're in an unfalsifiable position. No one can separate men and sex as highest priority if you're defining men as those who have sex as their highest priority. This is fallacious, and I think I'm going to go to bed now. Good morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:43 AM
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they will put sex first, period. Speak for yourself, thank you. if... (that implies some degree of optionality) I don't think so. If is a conditional. Using your assertion we can write: "If you're a male, you will put sex first." I doubt you're going to start defending sex at birth as a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:31 AM
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You call it a lens like they're wearing rose colored glasses and if they would just take them off they'd see the real world, but it's a bodily choice that men pursue, same as women pursue their own unique/different preferences. I'm afraid for you if you can take this off and still see anything at all, much less how it "really" is. It's just imagery; it's not analogous to glasses. You're reading far too much into the word choice. Would you be happier if I used one of these synonyms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:08 AM
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"Privileges" might be a good word for that; I think it's more accurate, at least. I hope you and anyone reading can see why saying that Red Pillers are in danger of "losing their rights" is not the intended meaning and is inaccurate. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 07:50 AM
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"Losing their rights" is an awful and inaccurate way of wording this, imo. You should clarify what you mean by "rights".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 07:30 AM
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She's saying that if you view relationships through the lens of putting sex first, anyone you interact with who doesn't will be seen as guarding or abusing it. She doesn't mention libido, psychological conditioning, or rule out biological differences. Those don't really matter to what she said, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 01:36 AM
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I have no idea how you got that out of her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 01:21 AM
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You were originally using the mode, not median. If we're only using the mode of age at divorce and age at marriage, that skews the ages lower (because you cannot get divorced before you married, so we can disregard anyone who gets married over 30). But if we go to median, are saying that half of all divorces occur at or before 30? I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing how this stat supports what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 03:05 AM
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I'm literally repeating my questions because you refuse to answer them the first time. I've been as sincere as can be, unlike you who has insulted me several times already. If you don't want to talk to me, you shouldn't have replied to my comments in the first place. I didn't start this conversation. The rest of your argument falls apart now because my claim is based on continual data that I've observed throughout the months of seeing him talk (write). This just shows that you are a poor judge o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:56 AM
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I'm just saying that your numbers are lacking or would imply something other than what you're saying. Seeing the most common age of divorce so close to the average age at marriage would lead me to believe that younger age at marriage is a better predictor of divorce, because I doubt that so many marriages end within a two years. Edit: I don't think the italics are the best worded, and still am not happy with it, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:43 AM
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But you haven't even shown that. If older more mature women aren't more reliable partners, why is the most common age at divorce not higher? Do you have any data that says that most (or a high percentage of) marriages only last a couple years, as your conclusion would require?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:37 AM
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Have you seen the countless threads and comments around reddit bashing TRP If I can copy and paste things directly from TRP showing that shitty things are said there, it's hardly attacking to claim that shitty things are said on the sub. I'm on my phone and here's a few things I can find within minutes: From /u/SS4james Give her an ultimatum to be your nasty little sex slave who'll do any depraved act you tell her to, or dump her ass and move on to someone better. From /u/trplurker Your just now…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:34 AM
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The most common age of divorce is 30, not 18-23. What does this even mean? Average age at first marriage is 27-29. At 18-23 the vast majority of people aren't married, which precludes them from getting divorced; of course they wouldn't be the most common divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:30 AM
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You've just repeated your above post. You haven't actually said why he sounds like a girl, or what that entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 02:24 AM
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I'm not a RPW, but: The Red Pill is said to have no relevance outside of heterosexual dom-sub relationships. The above applies. We've also had this thread. You'll find the quotes I'm basing these two on in that thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 01:59 AM
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It's gotten to the point where I just take it to mean figuratively. You're right, though. I'll edit it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 01:52 AM
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If vaginas get hot sauced for pregnancy rape then weiners get some condiments too? How about no one's genitals touch hot sauce? Why isn't that your first thought for equality? pregnancy rape You are obviously trying to use rape as a buzzword. Stop. Adult rational people" do way more retarded things than that. "I'm a shitty person, but there are shittier people so it's A-OK!" Does that sounds like a valid defense? (hint: no, it's handwaving )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 01:44 AM
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If a man rapes a woman everybody comes screaming to cut his dick off because he's evil Wrong. I don't advocate mutilation. [a woman]... is literally raping the man's life and [his] first priority [should be] caring about her burning her stupid vagina? You obviously don't know what rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 01:40 AM
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If only I knew someone who is constantly called something they're not...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 12:49 AM
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I'm not Christian, I'm not Kantian, and I know you aren't a do-gooder judging by your other responses. if someone's trying try o harm me they deserve to be harmed back 100 fold I suppose this is what I was looking for. Revenge is the motivator, not prevention. Thanks for being straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 12:37 AM
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I'm curious what your view of the Red Piller's rationale is. I wasn't saying that you personally would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 12:31 AM
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The point of using hot sauce is to harm someone. Sperm will die in a condom from spermicide or giving it a few minutes to an hour. It is completely unnecessary, even if spermjacking were a common thing. Why not take the condom home with you? Why not use spermicide? Why not do any number of things that won't lead to someone's harm while still preventing spermjacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 12:24 AM
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There are more intelligent ways to go about it if your plan is to kill sperm and not hurt someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 12:12 AM
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It's a repeated course of action, if it's not a tactic. Why does he sound like a girl? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 02:13 PM
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Everything I've seen of ROK has led me to believe it's complete shit. No redeeming qualities. You come along and say that there are redeeming qualities, actually. I ask what those redeeming qualities are, and I'm told it's a stupid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 02:08 PM
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no scientific study uses the whole world as a sample size. my sample size far exceeds most scientific studies. I've met enough women to notice certain trends. unless 17-23yo college girls in Chicago behave differently from those in other cities? China has the largest sample size of any country, therefore we can conclude that 99% of people are Chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 06:18 AM
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Are you saying that men and women are the same to you, but you can't respect a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 04:15 AM
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I am not a conservative I didn't say you were. What you are isn't important to what they are. Yes. "Conservatives " are also feminist progressives and liberals and their disgusting form of feminized churchianity is rife with team woman feminists lite. I don't even know what to say to this. Are self-described conservatives not conservative? They're secretly liberals (in a sub where liberal is a dirty word)? Whatever, you answered my question: yes you would call the people in /r/Conservative liber…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 04:07 AM
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Would you call /r/Conservative liberal, leftist, liberal leftist, or feminist? Oh, and according to some of them /r/TheRedPill is liberal trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 03:43 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1pleot/boyfriend_trainer_a_nickelodeon_game_aimed_at/ http://i.imgur.com/g0qV7Td.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/13 12:31 AM
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I believe OP's point is that you cannot combine generalizations to form a picture of the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:41 PM
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But apparently you think I'm /u/redpillschool! Thanks, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:26 PM
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Good God man, stop digging this hole! It's intolerable to read. He doesn't like you, he said so as much. He's also said that he has no opinion on me. You're asking him to reaffirm, are you some kind of a sucker for punishment? I am a sucker for punishment, so thanks for the compliment. Anyone who stays here for more than a few days is likely some form of masochist. I want to hear his opinion, and he wants his opinion heard. You don't have to read it if you find it intolerable. What are you going…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:04 PM
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This doesn't mean anything, and doesn't narrow down anything. You are not defending ROK at all if you are unable to articulate what kind of "stuff" you've found valuable on ROK. Perhaps you are able, but are just unwilling, because the "stuff" you'd be forced to defend is garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 10:40 PM
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One in the same. Huh, so Red Pillers want those who decrease the value of /r/TheRedPill banned? I look forward to this defense. What increases value of /r/TheRedPill? But if you weren't I'd do it right now for just this reason! Sounds like you've got a grudge. I've asked you before what you think of me, and I've gotten an answer it seems: You think I am annoying. You think I am worthless; You think I am worse than worthless, to the point that anywhere I go is worse for it. You think I am dishone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 10:31 PM
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Unfortunately I'm (apparently) incapable of processing The Red Pill. I'm asking for your view, which from what you wrote is that Red Pill is reality, full stop. No exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 10:00 PM
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Our subscribers appreciate those sorts of bans. Ah, so you banned me because Red Pillers wanted me banned? Or because I had the potential to decrease the value of /r/TheRedPill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:57 PM
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What have you taken from ROK?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:49 PM
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It's a common tactic, I've found. Assume the opponent is a female; disregard what they have to say because "obviously they don't understand". It's been used on me several times. The "feeeeeemale (disregard opinion)" flair on /r/TheBluePill has never been more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:47 PM
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There is no such thing as a split, either things agree with the reality of Red Pill or they do not. So Red Pill = reality? Anything that doesn't conform to reality is not Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:43 PM
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Real members ignore shit they don't like or understand the need for things others consider extreme. No True Scotsman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:42 PM
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When I decide to ban people for going there and hurling insults at our users, that's my decision and has been the moderators rule since the inception of the sub. Oh, cool; why was I banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:39 PM
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There are children fighting in broadcasted death games for entertainment and your problem with realism comes from who the protagonist is attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:34 PM
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Is it possible to take each individual response and use it to see which side it comes from? It'd be interesting to see the stats for each side.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 03:47 AM
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Every state will have its own contract, tort, consumer protection, family, constitutional, product liability, and all other types law. Yes, yes, I know. I am obviously not a Georgia family lawyer I don't believe that, either. Which state are you? Massachusetts, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 02:59 AM
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A shitty source is not any better than an anecdote or hypothetical. Low effort posts will get low effort replies. If you have yet to read /u/ChaoticParadox's comments, they are extremely low effort. What do you think could convince him that he was wrong when he calls anyone who disagrees with him a troll? I shouldn't have to instruct someone on how to correctly argue in order to debate them. You don't have to; you jumped into this one, remember? /u/LeaneGenova wasn't even the one who posted the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 10:28 PM
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Then don't just blindly accept them. You can argue why they're untrustworthy, incorrect, misleading, etc. You don't have to accept what's said because it's in a blue font.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 09:55 PM
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Well then I suppose you should drop that line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/13 05:30 PM
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Ask me small questions we can take our time and address individually. Oh, okay: [on truth]...you've got no clue what it feels like. This obviously wasn't your life experience. Is truth determined by what I experience and feel? http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1tbqo7/getting_laid_isnt_all_that_hard/ce7t49i?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 08:06 PM
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...you've got no clue what it feels like. This obviously wasn't your life experience. Is truth determined by what I experience and feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 05:41 PM
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How about all the users who apply the theory to their lives and experience success from it? What about 'em? That not good enough for you? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 07:34 AM
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We both know why you were banned. Because you post on TBP. No, I don't know why, and unless you've gained information I haven't in the past four hours, you do not know, either. Do you think it's unfair for TRP to ban you for posting on a sub that's primary purpose is to mock them? Or should they give you chance to come into TRP and hope that your intentions are honorable? I think /r/TheRedPill is a circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 04:24 AM
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I don't understand why "disagreeing with /r/TheRedPill" is mutually exclusive with parody sub. You'd be hard pressed to find a sub outside of /r/TheRedPill that doesn't disagree with /r/TheRedPill. What's your point? Would you prefer if I slightly reworded my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 03:40 AM
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TheRedPill 0 -38 This is my karma count for /r/TheRedPill just now. I'll post a picture if you don't trust me. This is a link to my overall karma count from over two months ago, and I hadn't posted in TRP for a month prior. I haven't interacted on the sub at all in the past few months, but was just banned. Again, you don't think it has anything to do with the fact that you post in a sub that's sole purpose is to mock and shame TRP? I don't know what to think, which is why I want to hear /r/TheRe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 03:34 AM
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're a troll and not someone who advocates domestic violence & abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 03:21 AM
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Maybe there were some other variables in your life that put you in the position you were in. I don't know. It's important to note that he doesn't know, either. Edit: damn, that was originally horribly worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 01:49 AM
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Simply disagreeing won't get you banned. Did do this. Coming in there and asking questions will not get you banned. Did do this. People hold exact opposite views than one another constantly. Have done this. Coming in there and starting the post off with "You guys are all retarded misogynists and your discussions are stoopid" will get you banned. Have never done this. Is there a more expansive list of reasons you can be banned for in TRP that we should know about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 12:45 AM
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Are you going to explain my ban, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 12:10 AM
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If TRP is being criticized for censoring, then it's perfectly valid to bring up the fact that TBP also engages in censoring. No, it's not valid; this is actually a fallacy. You can't criticize TRP for weeding out disruptive comments one minute and then defend TBP's right to censor comments the next. These are two different things you've described here. Who has said that TRP has no right to censor comments? -Edit: when you show that you're not being fallacious then these questions become relevant…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 07:02 AM
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Can you provide evidence you're a lawyer, please? TIL Georgia still recognizes breach of promise to marry. Sounds like you should know this kind of thing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<sup>idon'tthinkyoudo</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 05:51 AM
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I got banned for seemingly no reason a few days ago. I asked /u/redpillschool why I was banned and he has yet to reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 12:33 AM
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I don't think any guy truly thinks a prostitute is a desirable replacement for a normal sex life. Is ease equatable to desirability? Actually, asking a Red Piller that I already know the answer. What do you think a normal sex life is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 09:37 PM
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Well now you're straying away from "getting laid is hard", and going towards "getting a high quality lay with little cost (in whatever metric) is hard", which is a completely different thing altogether. Edit: and I made no gendered distinction. I don't know where you got that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 09:27 PM
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Again, that's different than what you said. Do you see why it is a different claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 09:02 PM
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For a good one you've gotta drop at least $150 High cost for high quality, in Vornash's words. You didn't mention any requirements for cost or quality in your OP. As I've already said in the post above, adding those into the equation makes it a completely different claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:45 PM
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I don't see why I would address it, or how I could even if I should. Do you agree that by adding cost and quality you've changed the claim being made by /u/redpillschool?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:32 PM
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The specific number doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:18 PM
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For a good one you've gotta drop at least $150, not good in cost/benefit analysis IMO. Well now you're straying away from "getting laid is hard", and going towards "getting a high quality lay with little cost (in whatever metric) is hard", which is a completely different thing altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:08 PM
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This is the most gracious admission of error you've ever done. I'm glad this was all it took to solve TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:42 PM
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"Getting laid isn't all that hard." Prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:30 PM
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What the hell? Are you unable to have even a conversation about comparative primate anatomy without making gratuitous insults about women? IIRC, he's one of the few Red Pillers that will outright say he's misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 05:49 PM
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This is exactly how creationists argue against evolution. Can we honestly say that that is a ridiculous method of arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:33 AM
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There isn't a single +10 RP comment in the sub This is obviously false. Even you have posts that have a net score of at least ten upvotes, never mind all the other Red Pillers here. Everyone gets downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 05:33 AM
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But if they are mere parody, then they are not engaging in honest, good faith debate and this whole sub is pointless. How does this work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 04:41 AM
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Yeah, I've noticed that, too, and have avoided those threads for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 04:05 AM
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I have no idea what this has to do with TRP and sexual strategy though. I feel like a lot of the recent topics are only tangentially related to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 03:15 AM
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He means the [score hidden] symbol that hides votes for the first two hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 01:44 AM
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I don't understand what you want explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 12:57 AM
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It was a joke, relax, I don't actually think you did it on-purpose-purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 09:08 PM
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But SRS isn't trying to do something other than circlejerk. If anything, that's mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 05:40 PM
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I'm very glad you decided to put the blue portion on top, in its rightful place. Edit: is the default flair color blue, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 05:31 PM
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You have a majority of people who won't actually try to use TRP lessons because its easier to sit at home and complain about the "other side". Edit, I left out a word above
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 07:01 AM
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SRS's goal is to be a circlejerk. Why do you expect them to change the goal of their sub? Edit: missing word
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 06:52 AM
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I think it's hilarious that /r/bigdickproblems and /r/deadbedrooms heavily overlap with /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 02:49 AM
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The reason women can't win in TRP is the same reason men can't win in SRS. The majority of SRS are men and male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 02:46 AM
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Yeah, that's pretty terrible. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:29 AM
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I understand you believe that, but I wanted to know the scale. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:23 AM
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Would you mind explaining the joke, if there was one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:08 AM
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Do you have a link to that test? I'd love to see how fast the manosphere wishes death upon me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:07 AM
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That'd be an example, not a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:00 AM
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We see women referred to as HB10's a lot. I assume that's a measure of SMV. How is that measured? What separates a 5 from a 4 or a 6? Is there an equivalent scale for measuring men? What separates a 5 from or 4 or a 6 on that scale, should it exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 11:44 PM
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I was subbed to RPW for a very long time before discovering TRP or TBP and I unsubbed because it was just depressing. I still find it difficult to read. Just my experience with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 08:08 PM
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Blue Pill master race.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 06:11 PM
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This is why it is a problem. Once someone labels you a sexist or a racist the dialogue stops. ...or you can support what you're saying. You can disregard everything I say because I am just some pathetic racist/sexist. Your biases would be obvious. Everyone has some bias. Just because one is more accepted doesn't mean it is not a bias. Do they have the evidence to show their biases haven't affected their arguments, reasoning, and evidence? Because you can 't bring up anything about race or gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 05:06 AM
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I enjoy hearing the truth even when it isn't wrapped up in pleasentries. I have reservations about the amount of truth TRP can provide, but okay. You've said that the bravado of TRP and friends is exaggerated, though; is it true or faked? Okay it is disrespectful to you. Not to us. I can't answer for anyone else. I don't think the majority of people in TRP think it is overly rude or disrespectful. That doesn't really matter, I suppose. I have put thought into it, I just don't care. Everyone here…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:43 AM
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I'm sorry, what question is this an answer to? You said the third question, which was: Do you believe it's possible to be disrespectful without trying to be disrespectful? but I don't think you meant that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:46 AM
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Also this is not what I said at all. Once we start throwing around racist sexist etc. we essentially stop the dialogue. Maybe the person might have some valid points. Maybe they're crazy and should be ignored but I think freedom of speech is important to all people even those I disagree with. Then I don't really understand your free-speech point, and I'm not eager to get into why free-speech doesn't even matter here, anyway. But the moment we start screaming racist or sexist it becomes very diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:41 AM
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It is just the way we communicate with each other. "It just is" is a common fallback for Red Pillers, I've found. This doesn't answer why it is, though. So from that point of view I think if you post in TRP you have to be ready for some hard ribbing and if not you proably shouldn't post there. This doesn't excuse Red Pillers being disrespectful, and doesn't erase that it is disrespectful. Everything isn't a moral problem. How you treat others is a moral problem. Just because you don't care or as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:31 AM
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Your third question stood out out to me as something I think a lot of men would have trouble articulating because it's a dynamic they've never had to question. Well I suppose that's the best reason why I ask questions, and why I'll remain gender neutral. I just want to hear the explanation, and I don't want anyone blaming me for not understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:11 AM
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Why? Does it matter? Why does it matter? Edit: punctuation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:55 AM
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What women adore I thought TRP was less (if at all) about self improvement in-itself and more about how to get women. predictability How confident are you in your (or TRP's) ability to accurately and consistently predict the future and/or elucidate relationships? Edit: what makes me restating the question somehow more honest, good-willed, less pedantic, etc., and now worth seriously answering?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:48 AM
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Can you list some? Even if you can, and you should be able to, I will point out that is a small subset/minority of groups compared to the whole. TRP works with averages and most-common-scenarios. (Specifically, modern Western cultures.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:41 AM
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What's the minimum that something needs to meet for TRP to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:31 AM
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It was a serious question and I expect a serious response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:22 AM
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Your problem is that all you rely to heavily on black and white, pedantic games This is your game, remember? You've labelled it black and white and implied I'm illiterate because I did not know the cut-off point. instead of actually trying... to make a good-faith attempt at understanding. Me asking what TRP does or does not apply to is me not making a good-faith attempt at understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:15 AM
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I expect you to stick to that, and that you will actively oppose posts and advice about anything that does not meet the 51% threshold. By the way, this kind of post is why you're getting downvotes, since you've been complaining about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:04 AM
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What's the minimum that something needs to meet for TRP to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 01:44 AM
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Me and friends call each other all types of names irl. But it doesn't mean we hate each other or are trying to disrespect one another. Interesting. Why do you do this? Is it the same reason that this: Except when [Red Pillers] bash each other for being pussies and betas in every thread happens? But it doesn't mean we... are trying to disrespect one another. Do you believe it's possible to be disrespectful without trying to be disrespectful? Sometimes we pick each other and sometimes we rag on ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 12:57 AM
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they still have a right to that believe. Bigots' rights are being trampled because they are criticized?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 12:48 AM
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such behaviour works on some women This is further than many Red Pillers admit. Do you think you're going against the grain (of Red Pillers) by saying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 02:17 AM
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That said, we usually only ban TBP users when we see evidence that they might be gearing up to troll. Why was I banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:00 AM
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I believe it's supposed to be an ironic reference to 1984.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 08:40 PM
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I agree with this. Anything useful in TRP you can find somewhere less harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:25 AM
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Thanks! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 03:44 AM
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Edit: Why aren't you unilaterally abusing your mod powers for my benefit, as nature intended?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 03:31 AM
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That sucks. Why aren't you unilaterally abusing your mod powers, as nature intended?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 03:26 AM
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Wait, you mean you treat Red and Blue Pillers the same? Woah...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 03:01 AM
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Or were outright banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 12:03 AM
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There's at least 20+ Red Pillers here, if my count from earlier was correct, and there's been some more since then. She's being hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 09:47 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 04:33 AM
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I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 02:33 AM
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I don't know what an alpha male is. Care to inform me? Edit: it's 3:30 and I may have rearranged some of your words. Just a warning. Edit2: going to sleep, you won't get a reply :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:34 AM
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They're also radioactive particles, but I don't think Red Pillers would be happy with that metaphor. What do Greek letters have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:02 AM
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The Red Pill (apparently) refers to the entirety of the manosphere, if you go by /u/simplepill and others. But if you'd like to move on, what does alpha and beta mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:10 AM
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Well you said the two were very similar. I explained the reason why sunny is used to describe radiant personalities, which is because it is a metaphor and thus is based on something. From what I've gathered, alpha/beta are completely made up by The Red Pill. There's no metaphor, no science. But if you'd like to move on, what does alpha and beta mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:54 AM
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I don't know how that was sarcastic, but okay. Sunny describes both a radiant object (a star) and a radiant personality, the latter metaphorically. Alpha/beta describe...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:29 AM
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A "sunny" personality is another way of saying someone is radiant. There's a metaphor, there. What is the metaphor for alpha/beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:19 AM
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But I honestly don't think it's possible to realistically judge a person over the internet. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:17 AM
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Yes, but we all are. How much information would you need to pass judgement on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:11 AM
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here is obviously variation and degrees of alpha/betaness. They are traits, characteristics, not an absolute identity that defines you. What traits have I exhibited?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:06 AM
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What traits have I exhibited?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:04 AM
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Am I an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 03:59 AM
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Are you the one who decides who is at their best?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 03:52 AM
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"Be yourself" comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 03:41 AM
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I used to go there a lot, but it got to be too bullying for my taste. A lot of the people they mock are just teenagers. People who are posted often are people like Big Red and TiTP, but it's just the same thing over and over and over. I mean, it's kinda funny how crazy some of them can be, but it's not funny how often it turns to bullying. TiA brigades, and it also frequently sends threats to the linked people. That's not funny, and I don't support it. I unsubbed a few weeks ago because it was f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 05:54 PM
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I'd already asked you why and you gave me that. If you have something, please post it, but I doubt you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 01:48 AM
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Because you're an adult who's responsible for their own choices, and you have agency regardless of your gender. This is exactly my point. Why do you think this contradicts what I'm saying? Rather they make a choice to do something with their time that does not involve education or their career. ...so they lost their progress; ie time, career, etc. What do you think should happen, if not allow the dependent spouse to get on their feet? Why shouldn't they support their spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 12:48 AM
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Based on your feelings, I presume?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 12:46 AM
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50+ partners (which isn't even an outlandishly high number for a lot of young, relatively attractive women) if you're having sex only within committed relationships. No, that's pretty outlandish. Why don't you think this number is outlandish? How many women do you think have 50+ sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 12:38 AM
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While they may get some of the same advice elsewhere, it is generally looked down upon to discuss certain things that TRP does in public/in other subs. But does the non-PCness of the advice make it valuable? Just talking about reddit, a lot of subs will ban you for non-PC talk. Men really have nowhere to go to vent about their problems without being censored. Men's problems are not necessarily non-PC. Complaints about TRP, MR, or whatever other subs is almost always not because it is a man's pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 12:34 AM
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Except that it recognizes that men and women are attracted to different things, Debatable, on several levels. and is willing to talk about non PC issues. At what cost, though? Just being PC doesn't make something wrong, just like being non-PC doesn't make it right. The truth isn't always in the middle, either. Take this example of a Red Piller claiming the higher rate of STIs in women is due to the Pareto Principle. /u/sloaaron12 is correct; the higher rate is due to women's biology and how sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 11:59 PM
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if more than half the subreddit disagrees on something can that really be an accurate thing to generalize? What is this "something" that I am unfairly applying to all Red Pillers? How did you judge this? To take away what you can to make yourself better. And in the end, TRP turns out to be no different than all other dating advice. The sub just attracts a certain kind of person and welcomes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 04:22 PM
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It was for ease of use. You can read it as whatever word actually belongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 11:55 AM
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I believe that thread was a response to this one, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 05:43 AM
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I would assume that if the man quit working under your logic he would be compensated? I am not concerned with gender. Neither is anyone else, but that is pretty much how it works now. This wasn't what I was talking about, though. If I quit work under the assumption I'll be taken care of financially and the arrangement crumbles (divorce), why should I be given money? Because you've lost your education/career/time, etc. Why shouldn't your spouse help support you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 05:40 AM
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I've tried explaining what I think is "alpha" before here. I don't necessarily like using the word to describe myself as it sounds kinda cringey to me, but there are certain alpha traits that I strive for, and that my SO is attracted to. Hasn't /u/redpillschool banned discussion on alphas and betas? I don't want to debate what alpha means, though, and what alpha means is tiny part of what TRP is. That doesn't mean that I take everything they say as gospel because RPS or SoftHarem made them endor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 05:31 AM
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I'm not arguing that their aren't horrible people in the manosphere. They don't represent it though. Can I take the works of the radfems and TERFS and claim that they represent feminism? No because I"d get the no true scotsman defense, but that doesn't seem to work for TRP. Which is exactly why almost all of my arguments are targeted towards endorsed contributors, websites, and readings. Like I said, I can start taking average commentors, too, if you'd prefer that. I'd accept complaints against …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 03:47 AM
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I don't see any complaints, distancing, or dissent. I see: That is going to be so awesome. I'm all over this... I'll be in bed or working on an assignment. Would love to stop by but not logistically possible, will read the comments on the thursday night. etc. The only complaints are about the trolls and supposed brigading. Five endorsed contributors and /u/redpillschool himself are in that thread. Nothing negative. I think you're missing the point a little bit. Right back at you. Red Pillers com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 03:00 AM
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ROK website has beliefs that are in line with TRP commenters that are participating here. It's very obvious that sites like AVfM and RoK, readings such on the sidebar, and the mods and endorsed contributors, are endorsed by TRP. If TRP is tired of 'unnecessarily' defending these people and sites, they should be dropped and removed. I won't hold my breathe for that, though. Hell, TRP is hosting this character's AMA. I can't wait to see the results of that, then the subsequent backpedaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 02:21 AM
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for making a choice that didn't pan out as planned. Does this reasoning also apply to men? As in, he knew the potential risks going into marriage, why should he escape the consequences of his choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 02:14 AM
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What is a valid source for debatable material? We've seen objections to using endorsed contributors, mods, commentors, websites, blogs, etc. Nevermind how it's been argued by Red Pillers that the entire manosphere is Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 01:31 AM
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What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 01:17 AM
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Non-binary/Other. That's a link to the survey, if you want to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 05:19 AM
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It didn't look like it was going anywhere, imo. I said what I thought, he asked why, I told him, he saw where I was coming from and raised other points, I raised counter-pints... Isn't that what's supposed to happen? Edit: neutralized
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 07:37 AM
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I thought it was quite civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 07:25 AM
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You called me ignorant. Ignorant is an adjective, not a noun. A name is a noun. Rather than actually trying to support your points. It's ok, as long we don't go the road of name calling, I'm good. I already supported my points. You keep going falling back on your persecution-for-TRP-posts narrative, though. How many ways do you think I can say, "you broke the rules and were banned"? I didn't copy that part about the hate group, but that's what they said. I'm not a mind reader. Because I'm a supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 12:29 AM
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You're resorting to name calling, seems you must be related to some mods. I haven't called you any names. I'm telling you what was said from multiple mods. You don't have to agree with it. And I am ok with that. Your response never engage my points so I am not even really sure what to say. You don't counter points be cause you have rest on interpretations, and an ambiguous post. It's an impossible battle, I understand why you haven't engaged in it. What points have I ignored? middle paragraph A …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 11:08 PM
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Any specific disagreements?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:48 PM
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By blue pill's definition, being sexist is misandry/misogyny and that does mean hate, which is a dislike for somebody. First of all, I don't really care about "blue pill's definition"- I asked if you believed that sexist=hate. Second, where is this blue pill definition? not just some men, all men if they dare discuss something she/he deems unworthy. I'm glad you linked to that post so I didn't have to. Anyone who reads this, feel free to follow the link and read the explicit qualifiers that show…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:44 PM
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My appeal wasn't considered because I post in TRP. Which the mods said specifically. In fact, they didn't even care about the post. From your OP: Your whining here with no respect for our authority in our own sub ensured your ban would be permanent. It's as simple as that. So, no. Why people think TRP is a hate group? Why do subs immediately l dislike posters of TRP? Because of the blatant misogyny, among other despicable ideas, beliefs, actions, etc. I've took a quick look through your history …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:39 PM
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Sexist=hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:27 PM
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I don't know if you're going to find anything satisfying, and I'm not even sure what you're looking for. I just read through a few threads and I'll post the ones that have rape as a major topic: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1lem17/rape_responsibility_and_firearms/ http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1lisap/token_resistance/ http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1lvi5z/i_cant_even_seriously_what_is_this/ http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:12 PM
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Red Pillers are turning Blue Pill after coming to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 08:02 PM
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If you go back in the subs history you'll find several threads on it. That should provide enough context for you to understand what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 07:57 PM
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I don't think you understand what you're writing, and because of that, I don't, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 07:54 PM
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Because I can prove the OP wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 07:44 PM
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No, that's an incomplete list of Red Pill posters on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 07:34 PM
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I've seen enough Red Pill analogies to realize that the are often not analogous. But I just wanted to post that the quoted comment was endorsed by an endorsed contributor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:52 PM
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Here is an endorsed contributor's response: Came here to say this. Obesity is the chicken, lesbianism is the egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:15 PM
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If you wanted to only post about TRP you should have left out the ban part of your post, and blaming your posting in TRP as the reason for your ban. You weren't banned for posting in TRP, and if you were, it was icing on top of the rule-breaking cake. What exactly do you want to discuss about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:04 PM
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I was quite reasonable. /u/simplepill said, "In this thread, we have blue pillers making a false claim that the text of the OP is a return of kings article". I searched and found one person (/u/PurplePillDebate, who is not a Blue Piller to my knowledge), that might have been calling the screen-cap an article. /u/simplepill replies with a quote that just says "found on the RoK website"- nothing about an article. Oh, you want to give evidence to support your view? I asked him for his, and presente…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:00 PM
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I already said that you searched after you had already posted that comment, and before you posted this thread. This thread is a response to the other thread. You can't quote this thread in defense of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:44 PM
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That said nothing about an article. Wrong. Show me the word article in this quote. admits that it doesn't say article I already told you that I searched for the word article in the thread you linked, and only one of them might have been referring to the screen-cap. If you're going to say "Blue Pillers" you're going to need more than one extremely tenuous example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:38 PM
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Did she imply that it didn't exist? All she said was that you didn't search very hard. And you searched after you'd already posted the original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:31 PM
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on TRP website Return of Kings Show me the word article in this quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:28 PM
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I don't think you're reading my posts either. They were quite clear why you were banned. The reply on your post clearly shows that the readers also thought you broke the rules. Good-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:27 PM
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No. That said nothing about an article. Find some real evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:24 PM
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In this thread, we have blue pillers making a false claim that the text of the OP is a return of kings article. Where? Ctrl+F "article" and you only get four results for that. One from /u/PurplePillSchool, replying to a deleted comment, and three in an exchange between /u/mrsamsa and /u/saintmorning10 on "Sexual Utopia in Power", not the subject of the OP. demonstrate that blue pillers rather win an argument through falsity and deceit than treat the topic by its spirit and discuss the actual mer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:22 PM
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You can say no all day and repeat yourself ad infinitum. I'm sorry that there's only so many ways to show and say, "you broke the rules and were banned." Again, you didn't have the conversation with them. Well I've posted the relevant parts from your OP and the post that you were banned for. In my post I didn't blame anything on anyone. I never said she asked for dick pics from this particular person. she may have asked for dick pics before.. You made an excuse for the creep in the comments. Mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 04:50 PM
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You laughed at my comment. Really now? You cannot possible be so myopic to not be able to see that the question is ambiguous at best. The ambiguous nature of the question makes it impossible to think I had any malicious intent. You didn't ask a question, and I posted the relevant section of your post (your "answer"), and it clearly shows you: Don't creep in the comments. Don't victim blame in the comments. Don't make excuses for creeps in the comments. Comments like "is he/she hot?" will be remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:20 AM
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No, I told you I think you were justly banned. You broke the rules and were banned. What is the dilemma?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:54 AM
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Since she asked where.. she may have asked for dick pics before.. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:45 AM
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Posting here is not a right, it is a privilege. You lost your right when you told a poster she was "asking for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:18 AM
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You broke the rules and were banned. What is there to debate? You have no right to free speech anywhere on reddit. The mods are right; posting there is a privilege, not a right. You were justly banned. Not that mods or admins even need to justify their bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:04 AM
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In my experience the reverse doesn't happen You've never been an older women. I'm not shocked it hasn't happened in your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 09:24 PM
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What do you think I mean? What possibilities can or should I consider if I were to assume all of The Red Pill field reports are true in every detail? Do you believe I can eat 100 hot dogs a minute? Why do you avoid so many questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 06:13 AM
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all rape is typically motivated This is contradictory. Do you believe all rape is motivated by something other than sex or that rape is typically motivated by something other than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 06:08 AM
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You are quick to believe Red Pill stories but not mine. for the sake of discussion. That's not what "shits n giggles" means, for future reference. However, were all of them to be true, every single detail, it wouldn't mean a thing to me. What possibilities do you think I can or should consider? Now, do you believe I can eat 100 hot dogs a minute?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 05:47 AM
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I don't really care about what you can do. I asked you if you'd believe that I could eat 100 hot dogs a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 05:30 AM
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What if I told you I could eat a hotdog in a minute- would you believe me? What about 10 in a minute? What about 100? A thousand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 04:35 AM
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You must have quite some proof to say that they're all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 03:56 AM
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What do you think the point of my post was?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 12:26 AM
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I don't see why his ex-coworkers or even family (did he mention family? I haven't really looked at that thread) would respond differently than anyone else that responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:48 PM
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Are you talking about violent-scary-man-in-bushes rape or all rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:39 PM
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I think it's unlikely that the guy's life will be ruined or made dramatically worse; all the replies from the girls said something along the lines of, "I know! He's been such a creep!" It looks like everyone knew already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:36 PM
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I don't think those two are analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:28 PM
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Blue Pillers are only there to laugh at /r/TheRedPill, and feminism is not a prerequisite for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:26 PM
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Yes, I know. However, swinging has been around for decades. Where are all the ex-swingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 08:31 PM
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Still no explanations. Are you ever going to explain what is Red Pill and why? And manosphere and Red Pill are not synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 07:13 PM
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There are a limited number of people in the US. You'd quickly run out of non-swingers if it was 15 million new swingers in 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 06:59 PM
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Can you give a summary of each of these and why they're Red Pill? All you've done here is say, "I'm right. Disagreement of any kind is in bad faith."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 06:54 PM
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I'm /u/angatar_, and I'm encouraging you to start /r/IndigoPillDebate because you are clearly disappointed with the moderation of /r/PurplePillDebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 11:14 PM
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I encourage you to start /r/IndigoPillDebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 11:05 PM
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except for number 2. If there was lack of consent, there is obviously a victim no? Well neither you nor I believe drunk sex between partners has a victim. This is exactly like what soulcake was saying. I don't know where she said this, you'd have to provide a link. /u/mrsamsa is in the chain above us, but I didn't see /u/soulcakeduck. On the top comment, though, there's this by /u/soulcakeduck. Assuming they haven't talked about it before hand, and assuming she was upset about it afterwards (ie …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 07:06 PM
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Rape is rape, consenting and then feeling bad about it later is not rape. That is all. I'm trying to show you this is not what is meant. Mine (the logical one that says that sex with consent isn't rape)? None. Drunk people can't consent*, though, but I'm not going to get into that. This is pretty much what I was looking for, though. What I'm trying to impress upon you is that it'd be a sequence: 1.was there a lack of consent? if yes 2.was there a victim? if yes 3.it was rape. I honestly believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 06:43 PM
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The encounter is over. If the encounter was rape, then it was rape, regardless of if she was okay with it after the fact. Same goes for it was wasn't rape. How many times have you raped someone? This is a genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 05:56 PM
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I don't really know how else to word it, maybe: the person consented, and it can't retroactively be taken back if they feel regret. Does that help you see what I'm getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 05:24 PM
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That opens the door for consensual sex being turned into rape because the woman regrets it the next day. Is something getting lost here? Whether or not someone regrets an sexual encounter doesn't mean they didn't consent. You've agreed to pretty much all the other criteria for rape, but as soon as this part is added, the rest seems to go out the window to you. Why? Edit: neutralized
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 01:05 AM
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What never came?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 05:49 AM
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No, I don't think it does. Which war does that refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 10:27 PM
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No, I did know. I just wanted you to link me to something that showed that the French Revolution didn't cause slavery in Haiti.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 10:21 PM
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Actually this has gotten far off-topic. TL;DR: You think racism exists but it's not important enough to bother with unless the government is doing that. I'm done, you've said you're done. Can we agree to be done for now, together?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 10:18 PM
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Do you have a timeline for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 10:03 PM
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Because it was a colony for hundreds of years? Why do the Irish speak English?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 09:54 PM
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the common denominator isnt racism, its statism and believing in a technocratic state whos job it is to micromanage everyone Why do you think it's less likely that racist views lead to racist acts than it is for progressive views to lead to racist acts? the notion that the american revolution "led to slavery" is patently ludicrous o its FACE. No. Not only did the English protect freed slaves, those slaves also fought against the slave-owning revolutionaries. The revolutionaries also protected th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 09:50 PM
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this could not have arisen from a good faith reading of anything i wrote.. Bullshit: Individual discriminations, racisms, phobias and misogynies don't bother me, not because I believe they are "right", but because in the balance between individual liberty and use of the precautionary principle to avoid certain classes of harm before they occur I will always choose liberty and a government that's too weak to put people in concentration camps What is that supposed to mean if not racism is a roadbl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 08:46 PM
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im not afraid of concentration camps, progressives who know full well their ideas lead to concentration camps, eugenics and gulags are. Let's say I'm a progressive. Which of my ideas leads to eugenics, gulags, and concentration camps? individual hate crimes dont matter, a crime isnt made worse because of the perps opinion of the victim I didn't say they did. I asked you if you'd write racially-motivated crimes off, because racism is (apparently) necessary to stop the concentration camps, gulags,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 08:07 PM
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separate but equal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 07:00 PM
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The problem isn't individual hatred of or distaste for various groups, or even group hatred of groups, it is a governments power to implement those beliefs. If I'm reading this correctly, you think bigotry is only harmful when it's government-instituted? Do you think government-instituted bigotry appears in a vacuum? Without a powerfully centralized, intrusive government supporting, say, nazism, the brownshirts would have ended up as effective and powerful as skinheads in the 80-90s were in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 06:49 PM
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I don't necessarily have a problem with you wanting that lifestyle, but forcing it? Yes, I have a problem with that. You've also labelled what your wife does as your personal choice, which is something I'd suggest you reconsider in the mean time. I dont think this should be the default for every man and woman. I think most of TRP feels this way. I'm going to disagree with this. How does the evopsych fit in if this scenario isn't the default?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 05:49 AM
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Do you think it's possible to dislike a group of people for a reason that isn't well thought out and then treat members of that group badly due to this? Do humans ever do this? You've ignored these questions before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 05:40 AM
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This is going to be a fantastic thread. I can feel it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 11:57 PM
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Very valuable critique. I'm sure you've changed many minds this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 10:28 PM
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they want a relationship where both parties consider each other equal and treat each other as that. Domestic violence cannot be blamed on feminism. I'd be even more liberal and say that they want relationship where both parties are satisfied, no matter what the arrangement is. I don't think the expectation should be to make it difficult (shame? maybe?) for sub-women or dom-men's relationship to occur, but remove the expectation that that's what has to occur or what should occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 06:20 AM
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We're not racists, we're "race realists"!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 06:50 PM
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Me: (lazy, half bottle of mead) Oh look a dictionary that's probably more a straightforward answer then I can be copy/paste The End It was a dictionary. I wasn't aware there was a competition for best or what have you. It defines the term. That 's what you wanted. It fit. You didn't like it. You keep repeating this like it changes something, or that I haven't acknowledged it. What do you think it changes, and how haven't I acknowledged it? If trying to dictate my actions and me not being about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:59 AM
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That's the last amount of snide you will get with me. I've been tolerant thus far. A personal attack is an ad hominem argument, for future reference. That was not an ad hominem, and insults aren't ad hominems, either. If you've been offended I apologize, but it was not a personal attack nor was it an insult. Cause I didn't want to give you a huge wall of text. I mean, I admit I cheated. You asked ME to define it. I didn't I left it up to Webster. I literally pulled the first words I saw. Laughin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:36 AM
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Oh personal attack. Must have hit a nerve. That's not a personal attack? I assumed you weren't an idiot. If you feel so inclined you can prove that you are, but... This is where I got it. First thing to come up Yes, I know. I even mentioned that in my post. Did you skip to the conclusion? And why did you choose the second one in the shortened definition list? Why not choose the first one in the list, or one of the full definitions? Everyone else? Really? I don't see anyone else. Just you. Do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:06 AM
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a bad or unfair example of something Good, good. I always enjoy using bottom-of-the-barrel meanings. I'll try: So.. I'm forming an opinion with little to no evidence that humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers consider something likely that the state of being accused of short, wild sexual relationships here and there are difficult to explain or understand.. to be be made light off. Did I do good, or should we choose to actually look at what the words should actually mean? I'm just…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 04:39 AM
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Could you define the word "parody" for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 03:48 AM
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Well I'll enjoy seeing your valuable contributions to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 02:31 AM
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You can close the tab and unsub, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 02:25 AM
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/u/mymomsaid said that he'd believe /u/-Anteros- if he said that he didn't mean to dismiss the victims, but explained why it came off like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:55 PM
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Only because it's a Marxist-leftist-socialist concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:48 PM
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You're trolling in that you jumped into a conversation, then when I explained what the thread was about, you said, "I didn't even make an argument" You specifically said, "Your position...", when I hadn't even taken a position yet. I did ask for an explanation for your reasoning, but that's not taking a position, and certainly not taking the position you said I did. You're welcome to come on back when you feel courageous enough to post your thoughts. Until then, you're just trolling. I wonder wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:46 PM
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This chain is about this comment. The comment appears to be saying that these women did not actually struggle, and that the people who actually struggle have been done a disservice. /u/-Anteros- says that this is not what it meant, but when pressed, avoid saying what he meant. You agreed with his decision to not explain what he meant, saying that the translation is "Wrong, because TRP". Do you have an alternative explanation to give /u/mymomsaid? Can you see how it would be misinterpreted, if in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:38 PM
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That's not even what trolling means. When you feel up to it you can respond in full, simplistic glory. I eagerly await your reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:32 PM
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Was the comment poorly phrased? What did "it" refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:28 PM
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Sorry. Was that a leap for you? I don't mind making the steps a little shorter to accommodate you. At first I thought you were simply going for tu quoque, but I now see that it's an even dumber argument. Your position is that because (after scanning posts by tens of thousands of members) you were able to find some that you object to, therefore the whole is objectionable. This wasn't argued by me (I didn't even make an argument yet!) here. And there aren't even "tens of thousands" of posts made i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 10:20 PM
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Who is trustworthy, then, if not men? Why shouldn't all women be allowed to vote because some were betrayed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 09:22 PM
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Is your defense of misogyny (or denial of its existence) in The Red Pill supposed racism in Shit Reddit Says? Interesting, you're gonna have to expand on that leap of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 09:13 PM
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After dealing with fools, I think I'm going to start calling myself a feminist. I'm going to rethink a lot of my beliefs (mostly off-topic for this sub), see if I can resolve any inconsistencies between circlejerk-Angatar, serious-Angatar, and Angatar's prejudices. Congrats, The Red Pill, you just might've forced me to swallow the Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 08:04 AM
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lol You really can't see why people call you guys misogynists? Good luck, bro. Maybe one day you'll become self-aware. You might even drag the rest of that sub with you. Good-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 07:48 AM
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I'm curious, what do you think that changes? The fact that you don't/didn't see a use for women beyond sex supports my point, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 07:39 AM
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If you accused me of being a "misogynist", I would say "you're damn right I am" because in my mind, all it means is that I'm somebody who is willing to talk about the things that I don't like about women Which is everything except sex. The lesson here, as I see it, is that a wise man would never invest in a woman more than a woman invests in him, because women have no honor. There is no future return. They wonder why so many of us would only use them for sex. What else is a woman good for? If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 07:30 AM
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You got a bit off topic there, but what I got out of the relevant part is that you think misogynistic Red Pillers would outright say that they hate women. Do you think that they'd call themselves misogynists? From my interactions with bigots on /pol/, white supremacists don't call themselves racists; they call themselves "race realists", the antisemites on /r/conspiracy don't call themselves antisemitic, they call themselves "anti-Zionists", etc. Why should I believe Red Pillers act different?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 06:53 AM
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Hypothetically, if all Red Pillers were misogynist, how many do you think would outright say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 06:11 AM
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Why so much, and why any at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 03:32 AM
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He replied to both of them in the same comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 03:16 AM
3

600 ml of testosterone per week?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 03:11 AM
3

Heh, I wonder how many people saw the ultimatum and decided to listen to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 02:45 AM
1

You sound disappointed... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 12:08 AM
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Luckily no. I'm pretty resilient to injury, I suppose. I had some nasty whiplash later on, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 11:59 PM
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Someone totaled my car my car going 50 mph a few weeks ago. She was drunk, celebrating here 21st birthday. God damn it and my luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 11:26 PM
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Alright, then, if you want to believe that. Good-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 11:23 PM
1

I think you misread that. That I did, you're right. I didn't mention a Red Pill survey but I did mention the Blue Pill survey in that post so I got confused. You'll have to ask someone else for a Red Pill survey, I don't have it, but I know it exists. I don't believe generalizations do anything to help the debate here. When the Ukranian/Brazillian/Asian/whatever-it-is-this-week jerk ends, I'll think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 11:08 PM
2

Yes. People have friends, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 09:15 PM
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These are the results. I'm not shocked you missed it, considering you're a Red Piller. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 08:18 PM
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Damn it, man, it's over the character limit. I'll see what I can shave off, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 07:59 PM
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This is my original comment that would eventually lead to that post. This is the immediate comment I responded to. I didn't think it was important enough to link, but some people may think it's relevant and I'll edit it in to my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 07:55 PM
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Reposted comment from another thread: Original comment, immediate comment. "Every girl..." is not probabilistic. Agree or disagree? Since the red pill is quite consistent in it's usage of generalizations and using the word "women" to denote the generalization implied therein, it's safe to assume that, in fact, this is what I was talking about. But, to clear up the confusion, I explain that I'm talking about trends... to which your response? "And you never even mentioned trends in your original c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 07:24 PM
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Heh, I guess Endorsed Contributors' statements are ones that /u/redpillschool believes are the most accurate statements of Red Pill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 05:08 AM
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Gotcha!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 04:27 AM
0

Eh, nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 04:24 AM
0

An optimist who thinks the government is forlorn?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 04:09 AM
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What do you think an alpha is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 05:29 PM
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If I'm right and not misreading it, that sentence was poorly worded: "that reality" meaning "I think its the nature of business that turns lots of women away". I read that sentence with emphasis on the "that".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 04:12 AM
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Where does it say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 01:47 AM
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I wouldn't say that. There's so much more to voting than the numbers, and saying that women are most responsible for who's in office is ridiculous. As an example of why such a simple view doesn't work: Here's some numbers on the 2000 US Presidential Election. You'll notice that of female voters, 54% voted for Gore and only 44% voted for Bush. If you look at the male voters, 54% voted for Bush and only 43% voted for Gore. Similar percentages but oppositely allocated. Are women most responsible fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 01:20 AM
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Because you'll move the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 09:46 PM
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Take it up with /u/rad_skeleton, then. I was correcting what you seemed to have misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 08:51 PM
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Unless you select a specific definition I won't be able to prove anything. Edit: rewording
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 08:50 PM
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There was, but I can't link it now. If I remember I'll do that later.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:08 PM
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Nope, American here. I think the survey of the Blue Pill asked about nationality. I do agree with Red Pullers being American, though. It shows with the fetish for foreign women and disdain for Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:04 PM
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That was more of a general question. I doubt you really think a difference of 800% is necessary for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 01:18 AM
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I suppose you're right about the ambiguity aspect. I don't really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 01:03 AM
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What would be a big enough difference for you to care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:59 AM
2

What are you quoting there?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:47 AM
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As much I dislike the OP's post, I don't think this would be good move to unilaterally ban them. Maybe only if it's the crux or the topic it shouldn't be allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:43 AM
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I don't think I understand. Using a common topic in this sub, the draft, would women not signing up for the Selective Service be benevolent sexism? Because it is a "good" but it comes about because of a "bad", if you get my meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:18 AM
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Then I think any proof given will simply cause you to alter your definition. If you give a specific definition your request would make more sense and be more feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:15 AM
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It appears to be amending the statement to: Gender stereotypes and traditional gender roles dictate that women are objects, and men are agents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:13 AM
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It appears to be amending the statement to: Gender stereotypes and traditional gender roles dictate that women are objects, and men are agents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:13 AM
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Others don't seem to realize that. Cracked.com is not a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 04:18 PM
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The difference between linking an a real study and an article on a study is that what the article claims the study says isn't necessarily what the study says. She sells sea shells...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 04:09 PM
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If you did have data from women about what they want, I wouldn't believe it anyway. No reals, only feels. You shouldn't even be here if you're not even entertaining the possibility of being wrong. Contemporary society shies away from giving men the agency to tell women what they should want, so women end up desperately confused. I expect certain behaviour of women in a relationship. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:19 PM
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You think pretty much all women who aren't submissive to a man are crazy? That only .01% would rather lead their own life and are sane? Edit: words
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:07 PM
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What would you consider "most" as in this case? 99%? 51%?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:01 PM
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Absolutely shocking that an explanation wasn't given.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 12:44 AM
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If that is the case, then it will likely be explained why. Just because you provide a link doesn't mean you're automatically and uncontestedly correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 11:42 PM
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I take it you don't agree with that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 10:45 PM
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You've expressed a dislike of debate. This is a debate subreddit. Are you here because you are a masochist or for some other reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 08:55 PM
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I mean I see what you're saying, but religion should not come into play when making laws, IMO. I just quoted religion because it's common in social conservatives and they tend to be against abortion. There are still a number of people who would not get an abortion because they believes it's murder but recognize that others don't see it that way. agree, this would be a great step forward. But it still doesn't address the unfairness of the man having no say in anything after conception. It's never…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 07:51 PM
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Women are taller than men, however not every women is taller than every man. I'm correct using the lax rhetoric and definitions The Red Pill uses, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 06:59 PM
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What about the countless men that hold this view that have wanted to keep a child throughout the years but had no choice but to sit idle while the woman chose abortion? I don't see how financial abortion addresses this at all. I mean, yeah, it's a bad situation to be in, but ultimately still her choice. I don't think it's ever the man's decision, but this scenario forces a woman to commit murder or at least incentivizes it. I don't deny it's her choice, but it's a choice that'd be made with a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 06:34 PM
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...whether her reason be religion... it would still be her choice and her responsibility. Those that view abortion as murder get screwed over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 06:03 PM
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Are they saying that one women doesn't act in the expected way, or that 1,750,000,000 women don't act in the expected way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 05:58 PM
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I think he actively avoids a common understanding. If you look back through this sub's history in early September he made a post saying that we don't understand The Red Pill and then refused to explain what it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 05:54 PM
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You were thinking the same thing, I can feel it. Nothing can convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 03:49 PM
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That was my comment that got deleted. :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:38 PM
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What's the reason then for having a man as top mod in a reddit that's supposed to be for women? He created the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 03:15 AM
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I know /u/redpillschool is the top mod but I don't know why, other than that he created it. He doesn't like me, and will never listen to me- if I could convince him to remove himself as a mod I'll have to take a slice of that hat, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 03:09 AM
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No, lol. I just saw the original post in The Blue Pill and I thought that all Red Pillers would get downvoted to oblivion. I never submit things; I'm a leech. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 03:07 AM
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I don't know, to be honest, which is why I was asking. If it was before August, I have no clue; I got into PPD before TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 03:03 AM
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That /r/BestOf brigade wasn't as bad as I thought it would've been. Lucky you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:59 AM
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RPW has a man as top mod because he doesn't trust women to be able to take care of it themselves in a way that will satisfy him. I'm not sure that I'd say this. Why do you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:58 AM
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These are people from the 1800's, though. Has the field not moved forward since then? I'll just assume it's "leftist" for a sec: if sociology is leftist, and it can accurately study it's field, is it not truthful or based in fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:36 AM
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Al- is a common Arabic prefix. It's a dumb joke, but the likelihood of me ever being able to make that again is so low... Edit, I realize not all Arabs are Islamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:16 AM
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Al-Phabetmod?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:12 AM
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The reality is, most science is locked behind paywalls and cloaked in jargon. You can find some pop-science article, but it's probably unsourced/makes conclusions not supported by the original paper. You can go find a paper, but it probably won't back up your claims, and even if it does, it's likely I can find one that disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:09 AM
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I'm not sure what you're asking. Do I agree with his method? Do I believe you wouldn't find much support for The Red Pill? Do I believe what little support The Red Pill has is often misread or misunderstood?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 02:05 AM
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Well then I suppose that it's because he thinks he's a scientist and knows what he's talking about and you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:58 AM
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Ask him in pm. Why do you think it's intellectually dishonest to send people on a wild goose chase of support for their position?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:54 AM
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What about when beta is used as an adjective or an adverb?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:42 AM
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I literally provided the link before you edited it in. I obviously clicked on the link. I even quoted it. You didn't read it correctly, and judging by your previous posts, you are being intentionally obtuse. Edit, left out "correctly"- important adverb there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:41 AM
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No. I'll admit it, when I ask your average layman Redditor for a source, I know I'm sending them off on a fool's errand. By and large, science doesn't make the type of claims layman like to ascribe to it (like women are hypergamous or they go through a four year cycle of love).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:39 AM
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It's a fool's errand because he knows the sources for their claims do not exist. Did you not read his post? Because you did not link it here it is for those wondering I'll admit it, when I ask your average layman Redditor for a source, I know I'm sending them off on a fool's errand. By and large, science doesn't make the type of claims layman like to ascribe to it (like women are hypergamous or they go through a four year cycle of love).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:31 AM
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The frequency of The Red Pill's comparisons of animals and women is disconcerting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 01:13 AM
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To add to /u/mrsamsa's distinction; it's like the difference between a physicist and an engineer. One studies the subject, the other applies it. Medicine has scientific elements in it, but it isn't science itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 12:54 AM
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I hear you're looking for another mod to ease the load. wink wink ^^^^^^<sup>nooo...</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 12:46 AM
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It's probably not hilarious, and just seen as a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 12:42 AM
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Who are thon to tell me what I am or am not? Thon've misgendered me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:59 PM
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I'm reporting this post for misgendering me. I've already specifically asked thon to refer to me as "14,419,310" and thon have refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:26 PM
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Would thon rather me say cashier and law student? That's still an assumption that I wouldn't make. I don't have a reason to jump from one to the other, just like I don't have a reason to jump from paramedic to medical student.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:23 PM
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One could also be a cashier and a lawyer, but I don't think it'd be right to make such an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:13 PM
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Good thing my place in the scientific community allows me behind these paywalls where I can read all the science I want! Thon are a paramedic, unless thon lied in thonr previous submitted thread. I don't believe thon are a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 11:01 PM
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/r/conspiracy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:57 PM
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Thon are being obtuse. It's so obvious that thon are doing this in bad faith. 14,419,310 is my preferred pronoun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:57 PM
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How long do you think an invasion of the United States would take from declaration of war, to landfall, and occupation? What about the resources required to do just that? How many resources would that take, and which country/alliance has those resources outside of NATO? It's not like you can launch a full-scale invasion across at least 3,000 miles of ocean, then across an invasion of a continent in the span of a few days or hours. Something like that would take weeks or months of mobilization, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:40 PM
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It's getting a little stale, don't you think? I mean now we've been reduced to bickering what gender and sex each other side is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:24 PM
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pls dont delte drama! think of the SRD karma!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:19 PM
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If you'd like to believe that, fine. This has strayed quite far and I don't have the ability to debate this further right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:05 PM
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I know you can't vote away war; I've even said that things like the USN are more than adequate as deterrents and defense. I don't think conscription is as valuable as it once was, and I want it changed. It's been changed before under much less favorable circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:38 PM
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Which is one of the reasons I vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:26 PM
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I don't see the need for it at all; not with how strong the USN is. Of the next ~30 largest navies, ~20 are US allies or NATO members.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:50 PM
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I'm opposed to the draft entirely. I think it's outdated because of modern technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:33 PM
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I don't see it benefiting anyone or anything with your model.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:24 PM
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Doesn't conscription for women put everyone at a disadvantage, then? Women are stuck with shit pay, men are put at risk because of female soldiers, and the same men are still put at risk because virtually no women would be put into a combat role. No one benefits from this. Essentially, your complaint about the draft in it's current form is meaningless. Assuming what you believe is true (that the draft will make female hawks less numerous), those same women are incredibly unlikely to actually be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:16 PM
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That doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:01 PM
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How should promotions be handled if a large number of women are conscripted but only a few would pass the current male tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:51 PM
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It's a "he", so you can stop trying to sexually harass me over PMs. I'd love to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:17 PM
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(On a side note, there is no word to describe the space between a girl and a woman. No word analogous to "dude" or "guy", I for one find it bothersome.) Why wouldn't something like "chick" work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:12 AM
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In the end we the people will all lose and the lobbyists and special interest groups will win. Then you should vote. Your efficacy is in your vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:28 AM
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Believe me, it surprised no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:25 AM
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There was something from months ago The Red Pill is primarily Western white males younger than thirty with conservative values. I have a recent survey of The Blue Pill, and I want to complete my collection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:07 AM
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Yes. I'd love to see who Red Pillers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 04:00 AM
3

system is self-correcting given enough time I wonder how many ancaps are on The Red Pill. I'd love to see an updated survey on The Red Pill's demographs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 03:46 AM
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I think you're misunderstanding me. Prostitution is illegal Not everywhere. so don't expect them to show up for STD testing and report their status. It's legal in some places, and it's also regulated in some of those. Thus: How would you even collect evidence proper? It's just a matter of consolidating the data from there. Then you also conflated prostitution and drug use, which don't always go together. I think you link them because they're both illegal where you live, but as I've shown prostit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 02:12 AM
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I just wanted to point out that it is actually possible to research prostitution and its effects. If you do want to know more, you should do your own research. Australia and Nevada look like they'd be interesting considering they have different restrictions within their borders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 02:01 AM
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How would you even collect evidence proper? Prostitution is illegal, so don't expect them to show up for STD testing and report their status. Also coming with that territory is drug use. Having sex for money to then obtain drugs is sadly a significant problem. Do they use IV or IM? Clean needles every time? It gets ugly fast. The far more sensible approach, and palatable approach for most men and women, is to have sex due to mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 01:55 AM
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There are many countries where prostitution is both legal and regulated, and legal but not regulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 01:14 AM
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If you don't want a better system then I don't want to hear complaints about how shitty it is. Then you're just a lazy entitled hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:50 PM
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I generally agree with this view of The Red Pill (that The Red Pill perpetuates the problems they complain about). "The king of shit mountain" comes up when this is pointed out. The Red Pill doesn't care about changing or improving the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:38 PM
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And Dana gave you others. She posted one and it's the only one I considered. You haven't brought anything. And what you quoted: In summary; find quotes of intentional misgendering on this subreddit (/r/PurplePillDebate) or stop accusing others of "weaseling out". explicitly stated what I would need to be convinced. You have failed to live up to that, so I remain unconvinced. Have fun, though- it was a pleasure talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:31 PM
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Nope, simply poking fun the STEM circlejerk that reddit tends to have. It really wasn't serious, and I'll delete it if it bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:56 PM
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I'm glad you've seen your error.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:53 PM
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TRP is for heterosexual mating. That's not what I meant by that. I mean things like loyalty, respect, etc. that men apparently have but women lack. So really, I don't get what you're saying about prostitutes. I don't want them, and most men coming to these parts aren't interested either. I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:52 PM
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It was a joke, and I'm going to assume that that link is talking about saturation? Called it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:51 PM
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But actions and emotions aren't the same thing, and you're basing these views on a small minority of a minority of the populations and extrapolating it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:42 PM
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What do Red Pill men want out of relationships that they can't get from other men or prostitutes? Like I said, I've seen many posts that call women inferior to men mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically- what else is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:37 PM
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No, not really. I have several concrete examples, and you have one dubious one. I want more evidence before I'll say I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:35 PM
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I read "bar attempts" as trying to pass the bar for a lawyer That's actually really amusing. Too bad law isn't STEM, and thus worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:28 PM
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Exactly! Sex is the only draw to relationships with the Red Pill worldview, so the obvious answer is the relationship that is only about sex. You don't have any of the perceived bullshit and all the benefits, 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:27 PM
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The men visiting the manosphere and TRP are primarily looking for advice on sex and relationships, not prostitution. Red Pill relationship boil down to women being completely submissive to men, and with the vitriol spewed towards women it appears sex is the only thing that keeps them interested in women. I often see posts about how women are inferior to men; why are Red Pillers getting into relationships with those they hate if not for sex? This is a false dichotomy. Alright, I want to hear the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 08:16 PM
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No, you learn to filter out what works and what doesn't work. What parts of The Red Pill don't work? I'm fairly certain they want improved sexual strategy. Which prostitution will give. These are awful strawmen. Aren't these the challenges what Red Pill men face in relationships? Where did you get failed bar attempts from? The Red Pill either works 100% of the time, or it has failures. Many of the field reports take place in bars, and they often end in failures to get sex. College frats? Some mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 07:59 PM
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I didn't say it didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 07:46 PM
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It's the most sure-fire way to have sex. And intimacy is a different thing than sex, unless you were using it as a synonym. I don't think many Red Pillers want intimacy as much as they want control, which a prostitute can conveniently supply. The Red Pill advocates payment for "intimacy" in different ways; you must completely alter your life to have sex using Red Pill techniques. How much is that compared to $70? How much is $100 compared to "divorce-rape", all the failed bar attempts, college f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 07:44 PM
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Prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 07:29 PM
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I'm not the OP. And an introduction isn't a victory speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 03:55 AM
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Politicians are criticized all the time for their vague statements, especially during election season.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 03:29 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 03:26 AM
2

I just read through it and I didn't see any others. Judging by /u/CyanidePillSchool's post history, I'd say it's a troll. First comment is going to /r/TheRedPill and calling a moderator asking for a better tone a cunt? It screams troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 03:24 AM
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Thank you for actually linking something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 03:14 AM
3

What would you call it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 02:11 AM
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(Emphaisis mine, as clearly it is need) It was (and still is) your only example. I asked you to find me a better one, and you refused. I don't know where your numbers are from. Mine is a direct copy/paste. Of course since the result is always in flux and it was pointed out, it's no longer a 'control' but a variable. Ergo, I don't know where or at what time index you got your numbers from but it is no longer valid. I just looked at the RES numbers myself after you posted yours. I looked again, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 01:55 AM
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This is terrible advice using either interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 12:11 AM
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I looked through /u/dangerfaceisback's comment history, and I didn't see any posts in either /r/TheBluePill or any Red Pill subs. That, with the fact that she altered her language, leads me to believe that she didn't know beforehand. You can't say that it was intentional as a fact. I got 14 upvotes and 1 downvote for my comment correcting her. She got 9 upvotes for her reply, and 4 downvotes. I am a Blue Piller, and to my knowledge /u/dangerfaceisback is not. What does this say about the mindset…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/13 11:50 PM
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/u/dangerfaceisback honestly didn't know before I told her, and has altered her language accordingly. It'd be best to find another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/13 10:45 PM
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I don't see any benefit to living in ninth century France, or thirteenth century Turkey, prehistoric Africa, etc. compared to now. As a whole, we're the best we've ever been. I think people who believe otherwise have succumbed to hysterics; I simply do not see how we've regressed. I'd rather not live in a place that executes me for my religion, or precludes me from voting or being free. I'd rather not be involved in a war over a bucket. I rather like my comfortable life, and I wish the same on o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/13 01:11 AM
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I can find more than one person who agrees with the user above about the attractiveness of those traits. Do you really want me to go quote them? And you never even mentioned trends in your original comment. So "alpha" traits are not everything that's attractive, but only certain traits that can generally be found attractive by some group of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 07:04 PM
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You defined "alpha" as what women find attractive. If a woman feminine emotional guys attractive, then femininity and emotionality must be alpha traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 06:36 PM
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My question was clarification on an earlier point he made. I asked specifically about suggestions, where he said he doesn't want to violate the ToS by allowing suggestions of violence and racism. The conversation up until his final reply was about suggestions, not simply discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:39 PM
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I love reading you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:31 PM
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It should be re-approved now, but in case you didn't see: /u/redpillschool has told me that he'd allow racism and discussion of violence on The Red Pill if he thought he could get away with it. The Red Pill is obviously something more than just sexual strategy, though if /u/redpillschool believes that violence is an important part of sexual strategy I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:29 PM
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You're bad and you should feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:28 PM
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Neither do I. I disagree with you, but I guess I'll just remain confused for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:27 PM
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But he will clarify. He'd probably be more inclined to do so if the question was worded neutrally as well. Just the other day we cleared up a common misconception, about the whole women voting thing. He doesn't respond to me. He wrote up a whole essay for you and didn't even respond to me. Just the other day, you had to ask him because he wouldn't respond to me. If I'm supposed to take his words as literal, then his quote (from an now deleted comment, but you can search his comment history from …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:26 PM
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I'm glad we've cleared that up then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:16 PM
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It sounds like hell. But there's no reason to believe it's normal (and good). Many of the greatest empires allowed the conquered to keep their culture, and some even converted to the new culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:15 PM
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Does this mean my comment is re-approved?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:06 PM
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I was hoping for an explanation rather than just a yes or no answer. I don't think it's normal, and if it is, I don't think it's good, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:05 PM
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Does this mean that you would allow suggestions of violence and racism if the ToS allowed it? The discussion could take place. What is a suggestion if not endorsement? Or does his slight change in words really prove me wrong (and you want me to ask this guy for clarification when he doesn't even answer direct questions?!)? And that also says racism, and is in the linked post. I think you're just trying to stir the pot. If I were trying to cause trouble, I'd have done it already. I don't need pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 04:03 PM
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Why are you jumping from him saying he would hypothetically allow a discussion about racism, or violence on his sub(which is all that was said) to "he believes that violence is an important part of sexual strategy." That's not what I said, and I don't even believe that. I don't even say that I believe that, and my statement was based on the assumption that he doesn't believe that. I think it's irony that you'll complain about context and twisting words and then do the same thing in literally the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:52 PM
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"Normal nationalism and ethnocentrism"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:28 PM
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The Red Pill is obviously something more than just sexual strategy If discussion of racism and violence would take place, The Red Pill is obviously about more than just sexual strategy. Maybe I was giving The Red Pill too much credit. Are racism and violence part of sexual strategy? though if /u/redpillschool believes that violence is an important part of sexual strategy I could be wrong. I say that I'd be wrong if he believes that those two things are important to sexual strategy, than it's sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:24 PM
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This is what i tell my pledges, be drunker or as drunk and if they don't give you a morning bang be ready to right a written statement, but you can skip on pressing charges partway in. Are you seriously advising people to coerce women into sex by threatening to accuse them of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 06:58 AM
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Quoting myself on this "citation" (which is just a blog claiming to be supported [it isn't]). No they didn't? They refer to things but never give them. Then numbers seem to have been pulled out of their ass, as noted near the bottom of the page, which also happens to have made a couple of points I want to. Age is the first thing I thought of when I saw those graphs, particularly the first one. It follows common sense that women who get married later (and thus more likely to have more partners) a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:53 AM
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China has the largest sample size of homo sapiens. 99% of Chinese people are Chinese, so 99% of homo sapiens are Chinese. QED
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:45 AM
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I don't think this claim is falsifiable. I've not yet heard a definition for alpha that doesn't revolve around women finding it attractive. Saying women find attractive traits attractive is utterly meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:39 AM
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/u/redpillschool has told me that he'd allow racism and discussion of violence on The Red Pill if he thought he could get away with it. The Red Pill is obviously something more than just sexual strategy, though if /u/redpillschool believes that violence is an important part of sexual strategy I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:33 AM
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I don't recall fighting any wars against the blacks, chinese, or arabs. I don't recall waging a war on women. Do I still deserve to be called a white male? Should I still benefit? Oh, and just because it's a different worldview doesn't make it not-racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:10 AM
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I'll be here all week.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 04:43 AM
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I don't understand what your problem with my original statement was if you agree that only some young people are mature and only some older people are immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 04:17 AM
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It's not strictly related, and I didn't claim it was. Are you asking me to prove that people gain experience as they go through life? Though for your trouble: http://www.omicsonline.org/emotional-maturity-and-adjustment-in-adhd-children-2161-0487.1000114.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 03:46 AM
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I know you're not being serious, but there's a thing called puberty. I pray for your sake that you are able to recognize what that is, and no matter what your urges are, respect that boundary and the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 03:30 AM
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Most women they desire, not most women. If you're only going after teenagers and young adults, as The Red Pill advocates, you're going to notice less maturity than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 03:04 AM
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Yes, I've decided to do something along those lines. I actually teared up watching Apollo 13 a few days ago, so that's progress. Thank you for the kind words, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 12:49 AM
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Swoon
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/13 03:51 AM
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The OP says "she's older, has had some sex, wants to get married, etc." in the same line. How did you miss that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/13 03:12 AM
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I'd also like to add that danabana9's advice boils down to "don't be doormat", and you can find that advice elsewhere other than The Red Pill. You don't have to follow The Red Pill, and I'd advise against it, but you can take a look at other communities that are less toxic and get good messages from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/13 03:10 AM
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I think a lot of people here can relate. We should have a group therapy session. I'll go first: I struggle with this every day. I was told that I am distant that I will be distant, and now I am distant. I often ask myself, "how would it be if this wasn't encouraged?" If I were born a female, would I have been raised the same? I'd been led to believe stoicism is the "right" way, but frankly I think it's bullshit. I didn't notice it before, but as I've gotten older I've realized that stoicism has …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/13 03:07 AM
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Congratulations. Whatever you do I hope it works out for the both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/13 02:24 AM
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Assuming all upvotes are for misogyny, and all downvotes are against misogyny, and all votes are made by Red Pillers, then yes I do think that's widespread. Then 43 / 73 x 100 = 58.90% misogynists. If that's true, then 20,000 x .5890 = 11,781 misogynists. You wouldn't call that a widespread problem? What would a widespread problem look like to you? If it's labelled as "endorsed by The Red Pill", can we reasonable believe that it's endorsed by the subreddit's community?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 10:16 PM
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I have RES and it still says score hidden, though I haven't messed with the settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 10:10 PM
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There's actually over forty upvotes, but about thirty downvotes. And that's one post from within the past 24 hours. You can take a gander at many of the posts on The Blue Pill to see more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 09:57 PM
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Mods can see up and downvotes before us plebs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 09:51 PM
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Congrats on getting good service from a waitress. Did you tip her well?
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 09:08 PM
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We're (Blue Pillers, I suppose) aren't his target audience, so his excuse that it's just to get a point across and not to be taken literally falls apart. Is there an alternative explanation that doesn't rely on either 1. it being handwaved as hyperbole or 2. embracing misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 08:10 PM
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Second paragraph from the bottom. Unless he actually believes that misogyny (hatred) literally flows through the heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:56 PM
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Nope! Now I'm just going to make things up about him. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:54 PM
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Are you just going to be the intermediary? And isn't hatred a feeling to /u/redpillschool? Isn't that what he was just arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:49 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:46 PM
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You should directly ask him, if you haven't already, and link it to me if he ever answers (lol!).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:41 PM
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The Red Pill hasn't proven it works, and it hasn't proven that it works better than other strategies. If having a waitress talk nice to you and bring you food is "evidence" of success for Red Pill Theory, that shows how weak of a theory it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:30 PM
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What's specifically change, how has it changed, and what's the best "solution" or adjustment for these changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:26 PM
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I think it's a good thing to embrace him and make sure he knows his feelings are valid His hatred is valid? Or did you mean to write another word?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:24 PM
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I didn't ignore the context; I've addressed it in other places. You've refused to finish conversations, however, so I'm picking up where we left off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:18 PM
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You do think women should vote, right? No changes to the current system? No "responsibilities", "obligations", registrations, etc. differences from today?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:17 PM
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I've asked him about this before, and he hasn't gone back on that when I proved to him that it's not true. It's not like this is the first time I've discussed this with him (he even says so himself), and he knows exactly what I'm talking about. If he wants to go back he can- I've no problem with that. That's what this sub is here for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 07:15 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/5lB4g4l.jpg There are no responsibilities given to men in order to vote. If you'd like to recant, I'd gladly drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:56 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/5lB4g4l.jpg There are no responsibilities given to men in order to vote. I've given him the opportunity to amend this statement, or recant, but he's ignored me thus far. I'm hoping I'll get an answer sometime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:54 PM
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I didn't leave anything out of context, and you know exactly what I'm talking about anyway. If you want, we can continue the voting discussion in the relevant thread. You can even start by replying to me. Until then, I'd appreciate it if you'd go back through this thread and reply to my other comments that you've ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:47 PM
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If I say that women are stupider than men, you would call it misogyny. What if I found a even a 1 point difference in average intelligence via study? I think it would be fair. It depends on your evidence. If it's something like an IQ test or modern standardized testing, I'd say that you haven't proven anything regarding intelligence. And I don't believe 1 point is significant, mathematically or practically, and doesn't deserve labelled 50% as "stupider". We may not have a fully formed set of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:45 PM
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Have I changed your mind? I'll drop it when we finish. Most of our conversations end with you disappearing. And you forget who I am when we stop conversing, remember? How do you know it was really me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:23 PM
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When your position is that I like potatoes, I am not only the authority but the only authority on the matter. Are you sure you want to maintain that explicit statements of desire are the most truthful? Certainly not for your pleasantness. You don't even recognize us, so I'm not surprised. But if you're not going to come here to explain The Red Pill, you shouldn't even bother. You're not contributing anything if you're just heckling. Your assertions are the nebulous "misogyny." It's not nebulous …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:21 PM
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For instance, when I explain my position on rape, people disagree and tell me that I must be a rapist because. You can explain that you're George Washington, but people disagree and tell you that you must not be George Washington because... Wonder why I don't chomp at the bit to explain the entirety of the red pill in great detail? I've already spent a lot of time attempting to do so on the red pill. It's not a single theory. Then why do you even bother coming here? If it was adequately explaine…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:02 PM
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You shouldn't accuse me of willful misinterpretation after I've asked you to explain yourself. It's also against the rules. Users on The Red Pill often claim that women are mentally, physically, and emotionally inferior to men. As I said before, there are even upvoted comments that outright say "I hate women"- who is upvoting that, other than the people who hate women? You yourself have said that women shouldn't vote. How is that not misogynistic? You've also said that if you could allow discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 06:02 PM
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I don't think so. The merits of a woman is limited to her body- that's misogyny if I've ever seen it. Of course, the upvoted comments that literally say "I hate women" mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 05:44 PM
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Is misogyny running rampant in your sub not a trend? And pointing out that it's a circlejerk is valid criticism. Complaints about the quality of the sub (specifically Endorsed Contributors and sidebar material) is valid criticism. All your rules are designed to weed out "trolls", but trolls simply seem to be critics of The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 05:32 PM
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a melting pot where we bring together experiences we've shared or have in common and analyze if there are trends or not. Except you're selectively removing things and people that contradict The Red Pill. If you only look at things that support The Red Pill, no matter how much contradictory evidence there really is, of course you're going to find the support for The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 05:27 PM
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I remember you making a thread saying that we all misunderstood The Red Pill, Red Pillers, and the message, but then refused to elaborate on that. Round 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 05:24 PM
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No, it doesn't. He avoids the fallacy fallacy by explicitly saying the presence of a fallacy (or numerous) doesn't disprove TRP's position. Simply pointing out fallacies isn't a fallacy, though an argument consisting entirely of pointing out fallacies is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 02:59 AM
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Then you need a new analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 04:32 PM
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The analogy holds. No. No it doesn't. 1906 eugenics experiments in America can never retroactively be the fault of the Nazis in Germany thirty years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 04:06 PM
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If you're claiming something was caused by a group, but that group didn't even exist at the time, you're simply wrong. It's more like saying Nazis are responsible for the eugenics experiments in the US, but even then that isn't accurate. You should leave analogies out of something so simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 03:57 PM
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When you can prove that she's not a woman you can come back with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 12:26 PM
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Yes. She's a frequent poster on /r/RedPillWomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 11:47 PM
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She, not he.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 11:28 PM
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Then they can attempt to defend those views.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 05:46 PM
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http://i3.minus.com/i5vdnWTJbpEwe.png This was just posted on The Blue Pill. Apparently there is a Red Pill belief that trans* people are mentally ill, delusional, gold diggers, petty, and self-harming. They're not even worthy of being called humans, being referred to as "it". They're also only valuable when they conform to the Red Pill idea of masculinity- being who they are is simply unacceptable because they are defective. Of course, that's just the article. You'll find a load more transphobi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 05:54 AM
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I think we were talking about different things and there's been a misunderstanding. Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 05:59 PM
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turns somewhat female blanks into males or females I'd like to hear more about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 05:49 PM
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Hearing about how men are this way because of genetics, and women are this way because of genetics, and trans people are this way because they are genetic failures (whatever that means) makes me think there's something relevant there. Hearing about how transwomen are failed men on a subreddit that espouses masculinity makes me that there's something relevant there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 05:34 PM
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I've seen some nasty comments on transgender people on The Red Pill, but I can't recall if it was endorsed contributors or highly upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 03:31 AM
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Working out in itself isn't masculine, but body building is. What kind of body building? The amount to which we recommend confidence (bordering arrogance) does not look good I agree with this. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 04:19 PM
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Even female models would do better then male models. Now very attractive males tend to have more sex then very attractive females These are direct contradictions. Pareto Principle What are the numbers for equally attractive men and women, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 04:10 PM
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Subject: a person or thing that is being discussed, described, or dealt with. "hypermasculinity" really is just guys who work out and embrace confidence. Working out and confidence are hypermasculine traits? You changed the subject when you changed "working out" to "strength". How would a confident women who works out compare in attractiveness to their polar opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 04:00 PM
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I said working out and confidence, which is what you'd previously been saying. Don't change the subject. How would a confident women who works out compare in attractiveness to their polar opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 03:54 PM
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Working out and confidence are hypermasculine traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 03:40 PM
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But there's example of groups (not just men!) taking issue with the unjust laws... Do you understand how difficult an activist group has it if they don't have any supporters? Why would they tell you to shut up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 03:32 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 08:43 AM
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the harshness of reality outside the matrix Only one reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 08:11 AM
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No but it would make you unable to comprehend a male reality. Try me. They are not only for sex. You're major complaint about having no game (which is why you need the relationship) was that the guy wouldn't be having sex. And if you do it right it's cheaper than a prostitute. Perhaps monetary wise, but there are costs beyond just cash. And what is game?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 01:48 AM
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Not a relationship, you're obviously not a dude or you live not in reality. Would being a woman make me unable to comprehend English? If I misread something, you're free to point out what I missed without the attitude. A guy becomes single after a long period then guess what, HE HAS NO GAME. No matter how much game he had before he now has NONE! What is game? He's fucked and he isn't getting laid anytime soon. But what if he just flirts with girls every once and awhile, for funzies. Texts them g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 01:31 AM
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This is a perfect example of the fallacy fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 01:15 AM
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What I don't get is: Why is everyone trusting a biased view of my own words over my own explanation of them? You just explained your words now. The posts you're complaining about came before your explanation. context I'd like you to link it so I can see for myself, because I didn't see the original. I think I found it. It wasn't as clear as you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 01:03 AM
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Are blogs valid sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:53 AM
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There's the third conclusion, that you believe more >365 murders, rapes, and robberies occur every year but that they're concentrated on some days and nonexistent on others. And still, "...is not an everyday occurrence" is not the same as "...is not an everyday occurrence for any given person".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:51 AM
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There's an "or" in definition 1. It can mean than what is being described as void is not valid or it can mean that what is being described is not legally binding.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:44 AM
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I'm sure that's an exact quote, and we can trust you to mean exactly what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:41 AM
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It wasn't clear because murders and robberies happen somewhere every day. If you'd pointed out that a person is unlikely to experience one of those crimes on any given day, it'd have been more clear what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:21 AM
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Well we can look at muscle mass, strength/weight ratios, etc. to directly determine strength. What you've suggested is that we look elsewhere to indirectly determine emotionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 11:47 PM
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Spinning plates keeps your game solid You need relationships to have game to stay in relationships? This problem can be avoided by buying a prostitute. ...also free sex. A man however needs to spin plates, keep a level of attraction there. Then the sex isn't free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 11:21 PM
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I'm not convinced of that. How does the commonly trumpeted Pareto Principle fit in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 06:30 PM
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What does looking "average-looking" entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 08:53 AM
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A man however needs to spin plates, keep a level of attraction there. You could buy a prostitute, if all you want is sex. Why even waste time with a relationship or "spinning plates"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 08:48 AM
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My position didn't specify how strong any effects were. My position was just that an effect was highly likely to exist, even if it's of a small magnitude. Pretty much everything is different when a woman is ovulating vs when she's not so that is covered in studies a lot. You're sending out mixed signals. Is there a small change during ovulation or is everything completely different?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 08:43 AM
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I don't see how a non-masculine shape relegates you to being a cuckold, or how they're even related. But assuming that it is true, a masculine shape is not the most desired shape in most situations, so I don't see why there's an emphasis on what's attractive to ovulating women. If The Red Pill is a guide to have lots of sex while avoiding the "pitfalls" of modern relationships, I have to ask why there is such a focus on masculinity in The Red Pill? If, as you say, masculine-looking men are the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 04:43 AM
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There's masculine and feminine shapes. I'm calling them alpha and beta shapes. Everyone seems to be getting really caught up on the names. Because we don't understand how you're extrapolating "alpha" and "beta" out of that without going circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 02:12 AM
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Likely /r/BestOf, from the thread about the giant effort post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 01:16 AM
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Those are off-topic; you said that what you think is more important than what you learn. I asked you if you thought schools were useless to follow up, and now I've gotten confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 07:56 PM
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You're just quoting yourself...?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 06:00 PM
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Interesting. Are schools useless if random thoughts are more valid than real lessons?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 04:33 PM
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Color me convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 01:35 AM
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and can be easily talked into doing things and don't realize what they are getting into. Very good. Too bad I'll never a get a response from /u/MrsStrom where she reconciles her contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/13 05:00 AM
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This is useless to me. I found he's a comedian, which makes my questions even more pertinent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:50 PM
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Who is Joe Rogan and why should I care about his opinion on women and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:35 PM
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The original quote said said "Bill Nye the Science Guy". That's a TV show, not a person. I suppose there's been just a small misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 12:42 AM
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Thought so but wasn't sure. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 03:03 PM
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How do we send modmail? I've forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 01:33 AM
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If you'd like to amend your criteria from "ability to say yes" to something else, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 05:49 PM
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A child can verbally express their desires. Is sex with a child consensual? Please say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 03:39 PM
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Oh, now everything's not subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 01:36 PM
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This seems like an argument that is inherently against rape. Not really. Attempting to get a yes doesn't mean you're given a pass on whether or not you receive one. What about the above was coercive or deceptive? Furthermore, lying to a person does not make sex rape. Maybe I'm missing your meaning? It was just example of ways that sex would be considered rape. It was just to point out that going for a yes doesn't mean that you can't coerce someone into sex. Then I and everyone I've ever known in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 09:54 PM
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If you're going to rape somebody, seems to me it doesn't matter what they say or what their opinion is. So why would you spend so much time trying to push through last minute resistance? If you were going to rape her, you wouldn't spend so much time trying to turn a 'no' into a 'yes.' At the end of the day, seduction is sales. Rape doesn't bother with sales. Rape isn't just strangers in a bush. Just because you tried to get consent beforehand from someone doesn't mean you're not a rapist when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 09:15 PM
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Well, I find it helpful and insightful, so it's not nonsense. Insightful of what? The reality that doesn't exist? You can't deny truth and reality's existence while also claiming something as insightful- that's nonsense. It's not a hyperbole, because the effect of discovering this TRP community, I find, is very similar to the effect the character Neo, from the Matrix, had when he was unplugged. If reality doesn't exist, as you claimed, then the metaphor falls apart: -You discovered The Red Pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 06:16 PM
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Explain how, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 05:41 PM
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So really The Matrix metaphor is complete nonsense and hyperbole. Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 05:12 PM
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Whomever refers to society. If the most important (or seemingly only) tenet of Red Pill philosophy is breaking away from society, is it not conceivable that truth can be lost? If Red Pill "reality" can be anything other than society's, then how can it be the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 04:15 PM
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Strange how you keep replying to a nonexistent concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 03:21 PM
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Looks like I solved philosophy and won this debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 02:57 PM
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Because, apparently, everyone has an SMV that determines who they're in a relationship with. Women's decrease over time, while men's increases. The logical conclusion is that men will leave their relationships for young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 12:42 PM
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The Red Pill is simply disagreeing with whomever the Matrix is, reality be damned?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 12:38 PM
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"I" is a concept, and can be doubted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 12:32 PM
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Can you prove you exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 05:43 AM
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The Red Pill only cares about objective reality. Relationships are concepts. Concepts are subjective. Subjective things don't exist in objective reality. Relationships don't exist in objective reality. The Red Pill doesn't care about relationships. QED
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 05:38 AM
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It looks like he proved children shows are a valid source. I wonder how many children's shows will support Red Pill ideology compared to say, feminist ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 04:42 AM
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But we aren't monkeys, and she said so herself that she knew it wasn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 01:51 AM
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What's your definition of "valid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 01:31 AM
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So if you don't like the side bar, quote the side bar. It has been quoted. Look at the early days of the sub where there were several threads on it, and there will likely be many more. Each time /u/redpillschool told us the sidebar was perfectly clear in what it means. If you don't like the required, quote that. Do you have any proof this guy read those things? Do you have any numbers on the number of people that visit TRP or AskTRP or RPW and actually read the those things? It's required readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 12:11 AM
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The source is going to be a blog. If it's not this, I'd be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/13 01:04 PM
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I'm sorry TRP makes you so uncomfortable. But if you take the emotion & anguish of out of "Women are incapable of being trusted/they will only sap your resources", it's no different than a woman's advice of: "Men are incapable of being trusted/ they will only sleep with you and leave". That's accusatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 08:59 PM
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So no experience. Okay. Yes, feminism is more interested in perceived disadvantaged groups more than it is in general concepts of moral equality. They believe violence against women is exponentially worse than violence against men. Why not consider violence against people equally? It is equally bad, but male-on-female violence typically causes more severe damage. Urgency is important, too. (500,000 U.S. feminists / 150 million U.S. women) = .333% of U.S. women That's one third of one percent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 08:56 PM
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What difference does a quote make? Are there really that many women not aware of the existence of men whose only interest in them is for sex? It exists, and women know it. So you're not actually arguing against us, but the strawmen you've decided we are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 08:10 PM
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I'd like to see the quote, with a link, to where /u/soulcakeduck has ever said, "Men are incapable of being trusted/ they will only sleep with you and leave".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 08:03 PM
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I'm not familiar with these terms. Feminism is seen as only advocating for women, when it's expanded to include other things such as race, transgender issues, etc. Basically, because it's a token gesture if you don't have consensus. "Equality" in consideration of gender alone is flawed. Women as a group are too fragmented. There's over half-a-million members in some of those groups. How meaningless do you think a group that big is? The "piggybackers" want the (1)advantages: "higher wages", inser…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 08:01 PM
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A better question would be: How is the supposed misogyny of a hyper-polarized group even relevant? I think you may be overestimating their influence. It's man-space, dedicated to uncensored discussion for men, by men. It's relevant because this is a thread on misogyny in a subreddit dedicated to discussing The Red Pill, among others. as it is a safe-space to be uninhibited, have discussion, and feel welcomed. It says a lot about your community if you need to hate others to feel welcome. That goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 07:03 PM
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If it's ubiquitous than couldn't you have found someone who hadn't just gone through/is going through one of the worst moments of their life? Up votes can be people agreeing with him or gestures of support. Again, that's not evidence of much. There's a number of things. How's the side-bar article that says that women are oversized teenagers? It's been stickied and labelled as required reading. If that's not support, then you simply do not know what "support" means. You have point though, in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 06:20 PM
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No one speaks for all women because all it's members (muddying the gender/sex divide, fuck) are there by chance. They had no say in being born male or female. You'll find more variety in women than you will in Red Pillers. Red Pillers on the other hand, do have a say. In fact, if you'll look at recent threads you'll even see that Red Pillers chose to be a member of that community. Due to how reddit works, you'll see the best-received opinions on top. How is taking the best received replies from …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 06:14 PM
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I cannot say what honor and courage are to women, because I am not a woman. I can say that women are not expected to protect anyone, or ever put themselves in harms way unless it's to protect their own child. But women who do protect someone or put themselves into harms way to protect a child are honorable and courageous, no? If you replace "woman" with "man", the sentence still makes perfect sense. What feminist organizations support is irrelevant. How many women actually identify as feminists?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 06:07 PM
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It's funny to see the claims go from "all women", to "most women", to "a significant portion of women", to "these specific women".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:44 PM
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Standard bearer? It's just an example of misogyny, which is rampant throughout The Red Pill. Is the statement not hateful towards women? Did it not receive a 2:1 vote ratio (63 to 27)? What about the comment that follows it that says that that's all women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:42 PM
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If even you don't know what he really means, how is it distorting to go based off what he actually said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:16 PM
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What are his true feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:03 PM
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I don't think one guy on TRP speaks for everyone Red Pillers are so quick to abandon their fellow men. Who does speak for The Red Pill, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 04:58 PM
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Apples and oranges. These are just words with definitions but no meaning. They all have no meaning? Then they're exactly the same. Thank you. Why are we so quick to point the misogyny finger, when both men and women equally pigeon-hole different versions of love, honor, and trust on each gender. I'm asking you to show that love, honor, courage, and trust mean different things to men and women. Please, go ahead. Men are expected to die for women if the necessity arises, go to war, do manual labor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 04:55 PM
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You can but generally speaking women are more likely to fall out of love once their husbands can no longer provide for them It appears love isn't so different after all. This has nothing to do with the conversation and doesn't change anything. It certainly does mean a lot. If it's only the discovery of interest, it has nothing to do with love. Men are more likely to give their lives to protect people. Women are less likely to give their lives to protect other people. Doesn't mean they can't or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 06:09 AM
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No that was an example of a generalized possible difference of reasons for falling out of love "A woman may love a man and be happy simply knowing he's happy until his looks fade/he stops taking care of himself/or whatever" is equally valid, no? No, but more women find their love/interest in a man somewhat based off of what he can provide. Men don't usually care abiut what women can provide. Is this interest because women traditionally couldn't (due to a myriad of reasons) provide for themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:31 AM
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A man may love a woman and be happy simply knowing she's happy until her looks fade/she stops taking care of herself/or whatever. A man's love is less permanent than a woman's? A woman may love a man until he isn't able to provide for her/offer her protection/she can benefit from his resources. A woman's love is based off what she can leech? Honer to a man may includes giving his life for a woman, women generally aren't the ones willing to give the life for their boyfriends/husbands Women are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:14 AM
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"Locker room talk" is a general term for how men speak to each other when they're "with the boys". By being a woman, it's not specific to being "with the boys", is it? I don't think any woman who's lived with men or seen entertainments directed at men hasn't encountered it Entertainment directed at men is valid, so entertainment directed at women must be valid, too, no? You arent going to like this, but I don't believe men "respect" women at all (in general, please from now on insert in general …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 05:11 AM
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How different is a woman's love, honor, and trust compared to a man's love, honor, and trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 04:40 AM
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They don't see women as less or unequal, they just see them as different. Different in that they are incapable of love, incapable of honor, incapable of trust...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 04:28 AM
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dont you think this is really more like the obnoxious bravado humor of the locker room than what he really thinks women are? As a woman, when have you ever been privy to a men's locker room? when men are talking to each other qua men without regard to a female audience, they say a lot of things, things that might be repulsive to women So is respect of women an illusion to get more partners, or is disrespect of women an illusion to maintain masculinity? it seems to me a lot of feminists and "mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 04:04 AM
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You mean I have to go to a specific subreddit to find their actual views? I can't just look at their opinions on feminists here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 02:53 AM
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Does this also apply to Red Piller's descriptions of feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/13 02:26 AM
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Obviously not. Hence "what is so hard about being decent to everybody?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/13 02:33 PM
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I don't see how it matters who said it or when the specific quote was said, especially if he's been saying it for a while and in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/13 02:21 AM
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And? He's been saying that for weeks, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/13 02:10 AM
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If that change (which I doubt is happening), why do you think it is changing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/13 01:48 AM
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Actually, that's a common quote from our very own /u/mazzyTuff. Here's one example in this sub, though it's been deleted. You can read him defending that belief throughout that line of comments, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/13 01:44 AM
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Not to mention an incomplete picture of the world. "Why" is such an important question. I don't see how anyone can completely dismiss it or disregard it, as I see so often here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 01:15 AM
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I don't know on what basis they arrive at that figure, but we all know how difficult it is to change patterns of human behavior, so I suspect it is close to being accurate. It just feels right? Women do often say they want one thing, but respond to the exact opposite, which confuses men in their dealings with women. Sounds just like The Red Pill. All I can tell you is that most men and women are locked into a biological determinism that will dictate what they end up doing in a relationship situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:45 PM
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I mean that "women are this way because of biology, and it will always be so", whilst also saying, "we are this way, but we can change it so easily". That's not even getting into the who selectively applying evolution, but that's for another time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:26 PM
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I've seen it suggested by Red Pillers that women don't belong in the military because they aren't as physically able. Do you support the separate fitness requirements, or should only a small portion of women ever actually be in the military?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:16 PM
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Women respond to social cues based on biology, but men do so based on a conscious decision? Why does The Red Pill downplay the importance of nurture in women's actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:10 PM
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You must have gathered something from these exchanges we've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:04 PM
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They are separate, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:03 PM
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What do you think of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 11:00 PM
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Do you just naturally analyze everything everyone says or does, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:58 PM
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Well I'm just asking you so it shouldn't take a consensus. If I decided to start topics in The Red Pill I'd be downvoted and banned, so I engage you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:57 PM
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That's different than what you said, which was: without the responsibilities given to men in order to vote. I do agree that men and women should have to sign up for the Selective Service, but trying to add voting to it just detracts from the legitimacy of the complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:54 PM
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How much [brain power] does The Red Pill strategy require?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:51 PM
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Do you mean negging or Red Pill in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:49 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:49 PM
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Are you just citing yourself saying men need to join the Selective Service to vote? That doesn't actually do anything. Is there a law saying men must join the Selective Service to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:48 PM
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Just gonna shorten that description to "slut" for now. You prefer not to be with a slut, but you'll sleep with one anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:43 PM
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Recognition of the conceptual experience of emotion in others does not denote morals. Wasn't your angle just, "concepts don't real"? What makes this concept real but other concepts not real? What moral action does breathing have? Blinking? Sneezing? Assuming you mean value... Little value. Still has value, though. All people have a sense of morality. You mean attempting, correct? Nope. I've shown several times that you've contradicted yourself, and I'm saving a couple more. What Red Pill members…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 09:42 PM
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How much brain power does it require? How much does The Red Pill strategy require?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 09:17 PM
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I prefer girls who don't do random one night stands, this is a preference. Does this always apply?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 09:14 PM
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Where did you get that you need to join the Selective Service to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 09:07 PM
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Partly, but this is not the man's fault if she feels that she might be perceived as a slut by that particular individual. It's problem generated and perpetuated by people in general. I would never blame one person solely for any wide-spread issue, but at some level anyone who perpetuates it is responsible. It could be a plethora of reasons ranging from hotter women's arrogance where they might think that they'd never swoop so low as to approach a guy Women are arrogant for following gender roles…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 09:01 PM
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Questioning every action, every thought, and every motivation of everyone around you is necessary to have sex? Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 07:37 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 07:34 PM
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"Needlessly" is the more important word, imo, though both are necessary. I think over thinking is a good substitute for the phrase, but that doesn't convey the detachment calculating does. We can have some more fun in a few hours, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:53 PM
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Thank you for agreeing with me that it was about The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:47 PM
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Calculating* I'll give examples when I'm on my PC in a few hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:45 PM
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Oh, you just made comments regarding The Red Pill support or not of rape, but it has nothing to do with The Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:41 PM
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Why go somewhere else when I already have examples in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:40 PM
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Blue pillers are absolutely obsessed with rape. I have made comments regarding a hypothetical thought experiment, and y'all can't stop talking about it. It has nothing to do with the red pill. Thank you for agreeing that hypothetical are fair game. I expect /u/mazzyTuff's responses to reflect this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:37 PM
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Any number of non-calculation greater than zero makes me right. If you want to say I'm wrong, you'll have to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:35 PM
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They cite all of their sources. No they didn't? They refer to things but never give them. Then numbers seem to have been pulled out of their ass, as noted near the bottom of the page, which also happens to have made a couple of points I want to. Age is the first thing I thought of when I saw those graphs, particularly the first one. It follows common sense that women who get married later (and thus more likely to have more partners) are less likely to be in a five-year marriage at that point in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:41 AM
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Science? What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 02:38 AM
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/r/amiugly It can definitely happen. Even if 2/3 of those posts were to turn out to just be fishing, that's still a massive amount of people who are genuinely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 01:46 AM
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TRP has a consistent morality of amorality. The individuals of TRP are up to decide their own morality. It appears that there is absolutely nothing holding The Red Pill together. Each individual is so quick to say, "I don't believe that! It's the others!" And I've already pulled empathy out of you. You do have morals, even if you like to obfuscate them. All human action has morality. You really like pretending as though TRP's focus is living in a mysterious hypothetical world. No, I'm exposing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 01:34 AM
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It's not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:22 AM
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Don't forget the scholarly citations of Cracked!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:20 AM
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It's the lack of other plans, not being housewife, that I think is dumb. It leaves you completely helpless if anything goes wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 08:06 PM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 03:13 PM
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Promiscuous women are more likely to file for divorce and are more likely to cheat. Prove it. No they get a job, having a white picket fence family doesn't mean women don't work. Even the most conservative girls i know want to work after school, they just don't go slutting it up. aka wife material Housewifes are traditional. And now you think sluts are a bad thing? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:17 PM
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To be a Red Piller, you can't see women as equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:11 PM
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The Red Pill is incompatible with equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 05:04 AM
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You say that like slutty women are a bad thing, when they're awesome! Actually, I was just pointing out that your experience with women is what I described as the targeted women. No by advocating someone who is educated, but from a conservative background, IE midwest. Considering what follows this; just accumulating debt for fun, huh? Who believes in a traditional family values women who don't normally divorce multiple times. If you'd like to condense it to that, fine, but that's pretty much wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 03:37 AM
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And women in there mid lat 20's and early 30's oh and feminists from my experience. Oh? I'd love to see this evidence. I only see posts about Red Pillers going for women who aren't past "the wall"- the highest I've seen it it was set at 26, but I've seen it all the way down to 17. And I don't understand why you think feminists would be immune to sexual strategy at all. Women are human, too, you know. So that's a shitfuck ton of dumb women, because every fraternity guy i know except the fraternit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:58 AM
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It was just a joke. He says he's not biased because he wasn't originally a Red Piller, but he changed his mind and became one- ergo, he's not biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:47 AM
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TRP works for getting sex from young, dumb, malleable women who are already out looking for sex. I wasn't denying that. It's not an effective strategy for anything other than that, though, judging from healthy relationships and your own anecdotes. And no, I don't think they'd flock to it if I suggested anything. The Red Pill's "good" lessons obfuscate the bad ones that make the community unique- namely the misogyny and anti-feminism. Although I have noticed that people on the fence with TRP don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:45 AM
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I can't tell either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:34 AM
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No, he's not biased; he's changed his mind before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:25 AM
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I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or you honestly did that. This scientific perspective does not use pop psychology phrases like 'alpha' and 'beta'. Instead MHC research how more 'aggressive' or 'variable' men are more attractive to women while ovulating, while more 'stable' and 'similar' men are preferred during pregnancy and other down times. Hey, you claim Cracked is valid source. Although I looking back I can see it was separate. I'm not going to argue against the straw men you are putting up …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 02:20 AM
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What stage is /u/redpillschool on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:34 AM
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Your average guy will literally never be approached randomly by a cute girl just looking for either platonic relationships or hook ups. Is this because any girl that does is labelled a slut? Is it because the average male is significantly less physically attractive than the average women? It's like a sprinter trying to teach a fat guy how to run as fast as he does. "Just pick up your legs and move them back and forth faster. It's easy!" Actually as a sprinter, it is that simple. It just takes re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:30 AM
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Also: Alpha fucks / Beta bucks is hormonally linked. Did you link to the wrong page? Ctrl + F: "alpha" and "beta" brought up no results. TRP deals in trends, not absolutes. Most women I meet follow these trends. Some don't. For the sake of making my point, I'm just going to assume they do follow those trends: that says nothing about women, though. Only the small set you've met. Just like most guys I meet are heterosexual. Some aren't. There's a lot of evidence that heterosexuality makes up +90% …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:23 AM
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I know. I'm a masochist, though. Sometime I'll wise up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:01 AM
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The red pill THEORY is like any other theory. It is not a law of nature but it best describes the current set of observations. I have several problems with this: it falls apart under examination, there's so many exceptions it might as well be worthless, and it's supported almost entirely by anecdotes and blogs. Or even Cracked. It is not a law of nature but it best describes the current set of observations. The Red Pill is the best at explaining what? Again, I accepted a change in worldview to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:34 PM
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My ideology was developed as a result of my experiences. It goes the other way... If I have experience to the contrary, I will change my view again to a different ideology. When people come across evidence contrary to their worldview, they tend to ignore it. That's bias. You're not free from bias. And people HAVE been helped by game. I'll admit I accidentally a word. No one has ever claimed to be helped by spirituality? I grow up a feminist / egalitarian Did this change? My female classmates ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:06 PM
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Thank you for confirming that TBP has no alternative to TRP. Me not giving you advice doesn't mean I don't have advice to give. It also doesn't mean no one else outside of The Red Pill has any advice. Oh wait, did you read the thread title? I did. You'll find that I didn't reply to that, but to you. Right. TBP's objection to TRP is morality. Some parts of it, yes. There isn't an all-encompassing test, though. The rape question only tests the amorality claim. I don't know if you've been spoiled b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 10:38 PM
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The long term goal of TRP isn't to always be manipulative. It's to have as many partners as possible through whatever means necessary. It actually means be yourself to the max. With how often I see claims that Red Pillers were like this or that and have now swallowed "The Red Pill", I find this very hard to believe. Also, you have no authority on what is or isn't Red Pill. It's about learning how to be so comfortable in your mind and environment that you no longer try to impress or validate your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 09:58 PM
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I'd appreciate if you communicated your ideas in a coherent way, but alas. It was coherent. My stance has been coherent, if I've taken a stance. If you wanted clarification, you should ask, as I've done numerous time to you. It's a bit much to expect TBP to put together an alternative method which would garner the results of TRP. I don't know where you got the idea I was here to give you dating advice. Beyond "testing" rape, the only thing TBP tells us is that we're all bad horrible people who j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 09:46 PM
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You claim all sexual strategy is amoral. "Amoral" is what's being tested, not "sexual strategy". I'd appreciate it if you'd read what I write.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 09:10 PM
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The thing is, TBP never actually argues against TRP's effectiveness. That's been contested numerous times, usually coming to the conclusion that it only works on some women sometimes. Very different from claimed effectiveness. So from what I can tell, TBP believes rape and kidnapping is a more effective sexual strategy. I've explained to you several times what a hypothetical is. Rape is a sexual strategy, no one has contested this. You claim all sexual strategy is amoral. The best way to test th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 08:59 PM
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But you're not a feminist now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 07:17 PM
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I offer my experience of 'gaining female attraction only while acting like an asshat' as anecdotal evidence. I and many others find that attraction during 'game' is higher when not 'gaming'. That's fantastic. We're all real happy for you. She compares it to homeopathy, for which there is no anecdotal evidence beyond the control treatment. No one has ever been helped by spirituality? Would you like to demonstrate how 'game' does not work or tell me why my experiences are biased, other than an ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 12:57 PM
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Complains arguments are nonsense... ...Only attacks character. STEM logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 12:25 PM
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How many anecdotes are there of UFO abductions? What about those of witchcraft?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 12:23 AM
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That's luck, not strategy, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:45 PM
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Do you think slut shaming gets in the way of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:44 PM
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Then that's not disbelief in love but disagreement in what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 06:04 AM
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You believe in emotions, but not love, an emotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 05:45 AM
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Do you believe in any emotions? How do you explain what others call "love" if it's not real?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 05:32 AM
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So love exists. What was the point of this thread, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 05:20 AM
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To be honest, I don't even know what you're trying to say in this thread. If you don't think love exists because you've never experienced it, then you're wrong. There's several lifetimes of material on love written by millions of different people; are you saying that that's all been a conspiracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 05:19 AM
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If you believe that, fine, but I think it's a useless position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 04:59 AM
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Yes, obviously Buddhists exist, just like lovers obvious exist. I can be be a devout Catholic and still know Buddhism exists, just like I can be scorned and still know love exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 04:55 AM
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Is this solipsism you're defending here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 04:43 AM
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Yes. Although I have never experienced Buddhism, I do believe it exists and other people have experienced it. Or are you trying to compare an emotion to the veracity of a religion? Then you're doubly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 04:35 AM
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If you don't think love exists, you're simply wrong. You can't reasonably believe that all the writings on or about love have been a big conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 04:24 AM
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Equality is ensuring equal opportunity based on individual choices, that's why the wage gap exists. Because men choose certain fields vs the fields chosen by women. The opportunity should exist but equal outcomes should not be enforced for you'd limit liberty. The wage gap isn't significant because the gap exists because of the different type of jobs men and women go into, with the fields men go into being paid more. You specifically mention that you support equality of opportunity and not equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 06:23 PM
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Highest suicide rates, death on job rates Your position is that women are able to, but choose to go into low-paying, less stressful, and easier jobs so things such as the wage-gap aren't significant? How do you reconcile support for equality of opportunity with support for equality of results, as you've supported here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 02:03 AM
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Do either of the first two give an answer to my question, or are you trying to argue a point that I agree with? I found this in the abstract of the second one: Women and men agreed that female proposers were more intelligent, successful, and sexually skilled than men who made the same proposals. So it appears it's not something inherently sex-specific, unless females are inherently more intelligent, successful, and sexually skilled. How does this support the assertion that: The double standard f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:47 AM
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I'm in awe at the sophistication of your survey. I hope your analysis is equally nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:01 AM
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I just realized the rephrasing didn't clarify anything. I'll get back to you when I can be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 11:48 PM
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Actually this doesn't clarify it at all. I'll reformulate the question at another time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 11:47 PM
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Are racism and sexism good things or bad things?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 10:12 PM
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How do you know what men think and are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 06:52 PM
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that i dont consider human nature something that needs to be "corrected" from the top down by "-ists" of any stripe isnt a qualitative statement of that nature being "good" or "bad". Why even have laws if it's natural to have none? Why fight crime in any form, slander to human rights violations, if it's human nature to commit such crimes? Why attempt to curb over-exploitation since it's human nature to exploit all resources in a habitat? Because it's harmful. i am SPECIFICALLY saying these words…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 06:44 PM
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We can still agree about stuff. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:49 PM
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"you aren;t allowed to notice that aspect of reality, dont say that, its not nice, we dont condone you thinking that, it makes us feel bad" Does affirmative action help or hurt blacks? Does it help or hurt asians? What do you think of differing prison sentences based on race or sex? Just two examples of racism. Neither of them are natural: why should nature apply? Second paragraph You seem to have fallen into the "natural=good" trap. It's simply wrong. You can look at any number of things and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:46 PM
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Wait what? I'm confused. If it's meaningless you don't have to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:44 PM
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It's almost as if we're not caricatures. That's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:20 PM
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You don't think "sexism" or "racism" mean anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 04:54 PM
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This just sounds like "reverse racism" vs "racism" which is just dumb. They're the same thing going in different directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 08:21 AM
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Was the stay-at-home parent coerced into staying, like alphabetmod gave an example, through say traditional gender roles? Did the woman give up her career or education to placate the man? Why didn't the man give up his career or education? There's many factors to the difficulty of being a stay-at-home-parent, not to mention that not all full-time jobs are equally stressful. I don't think a parent spending their SO's money if the SO is the sole provider is wrong. I think gluttony is a negative fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 07:47 PM
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"Normal" kids can be extremely difficult, too. Docility is rare in children, and to an extent teenagers. I personally think it's rare until you see your parents as people, which often takes a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 07:21 PM
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Could you explain what this has to do with The Red Pill or Blue Pill, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 07:17 PM
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Because he's the one who used it. I didn't change the terminology in use at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 07:12 PM
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Then you should bring that up with /u/nicethingyoucanthave, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 04:40 PM
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Not to mention currently there are many single mothers "failing" in that they're using welfare money on drugs instead of feeding their kids for example. What kind of drugs? And how many is "many"? In the brief research I did, the number of people receiving welfare and doing drugs is between ~1-5%, but I didn't immediately see something related to single mothers and drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 03:01 PM
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Like the taxes that would need to be taken for the government to pay for the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 02:53 PM
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Just making sure that's what would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 02:52 PM
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There is a certain pride you get from knowing that you can dictate a person's reality just by speaking to them. You can undermine their beliefs, sense of self, values and national identity with words. That my friends is empowering. Empowering in the true sense of the word, not feminist empowering i.e showing cleavage in the workplace for attention. I once introduced a girl to nihilism. Her belief in a higher power took a large hit. She unfriended me on Facebook and told all her friends that he m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 01:46 AM
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A few good options. When a male is notified that he's fathered a child... I am being consistent. You're the first person to introduce that terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/13 01:35 AM
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The fact that you don't even know what it is you're talking about, and that it doesn't interest you anyway, doesn't instill confidence in your psychology skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 05:58 AM
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I agree. But what happens if she fails?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 05:45 AM
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This doesn't instill confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 05:44 AM
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That was self-imposed, if I remember correctly.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/13 04:30 AM
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Can't pick up the slack; not accept responsibility. You edited your post before I submitted. justify continuing to deny men this basic human right - a right that we have gladly afforded women through legislation. Gladly is a bit of an overstatement, don't you think? There's still bitter debates and suppression over abortion. And I'm not justifying anything. I haven't even argued against you, here. Why is it justification if I'm asking for clarification? Your first post in the thread wasn't even …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 04:20 AM
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And if they can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 04:09 AM
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If a fetus is being aborted, it doesn't eventually have to be paid for. I'd need some more information on adoption laws to form an opinion on that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 04:06 AM
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I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm trying to find out what you believe. I'm not even necessarily opposed. But, either way, the fetus will turn into a child eventually, and the child will have to be paid for. Who picks up the slack?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 04:04 AM
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Of course, but the child still has to be paid for. How would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 03:58 AM
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Is the child or the father more important here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 03:42 AM
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No one knows what they want? "The third type of brain"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 02:45 AM
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Through technology and legislation we've given women the following choices: abortion, legal surrender, adoption. This is how we have given women the right to choose to be a parent. There is absolutely no reason why we should not also grant this right to men. We can do it, but we choose not to. Granting men this right does not mean taking away any of womens' rights. No woman would never be forced to have an abortion or forced to carry a child to term. Are you talking financially here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 02:43 AM
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Parts of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 02:08 AM
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I don't think it's men that need to change. All of society needs to change, and I'm asking why it should be the responsibility of men to bring about change for the entire world, not just their own mindset. It's a daunting task. It's not only men's responsibility, it's just that you need widespread support. Men are part of society, like it or not. You also misplaced the emphasis on "really". I'm saying [most/many/this is a generalisation try not to dispute the shit out of it because it's quite ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/13 12:52 AM
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Think of it this way, the US has a problem with math scores, now what would happen if women found math majors sexy. Problem solved... It's my understanding that math majors are undesirable in the workforce because pure math jobs are rare, especially so for those with a bachelor's- not because women don't find it sexy. That's quite a leap you're making there. ...the male sex drive is a massive means of economic growth. Maybe with porn, but in engineering? I'm not so sure. Hell most my friends do …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 11:45 PM
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchy There ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 11:34 PM
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I think this, too, but I want o hear the biotrooth reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 10:45 PM
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Do you know what patriarchy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 09:46 PM
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With the ultimate goal of more sex. Income, status, and extroversion are just your means to an end. It's not that you desire those traits but that you desire the consequences of them. If, as you say, women want to have sex with only those kinds of men, inflating your SMV to increase your number of willing partners is bending to the will of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 06:03 PM
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Leading an alpha life revolves around the alpha bending to the will of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 02:05 PM
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There is no way you can convince me that is not true. Then why are you even here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 02:03 PM
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Why should the responsibility fall to men? What makes you think it's only men who need to change? Until societies attitudes towards men change, being the person who tries to change the system and go against gender roles is pretty much self-emasculation and won't lead to the kind of female attention that men really want. I wonder if the same criticism was leveled at the men who formed the women's suffrage movement. Anyway, do you know what I really want? If what I really want is female attention,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 02:01 PM
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Alphas are the only ones who know what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 01:50 PM
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Oh, good! You have some hard numbers we can all look at, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 01:41 PM
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Even if a woman is unattractive she will still have man who are willing to have sex with her because she has a vagina. They might not be proud of it or brag about it but they will still do it. I gave you evidence that unattractive women and even average women, have it harder than attractive women and unattractive men. What would it take to convince you otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 01:39 PM
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If you think that women have a harder time convincing men to sleep with them then men have convincing women to sleep with them there is no point in continuing this discussion. It is not going to go anywhere. You are either being intentional dishonest or live in a world that is completely different then the world inhabited by 99.9% of the population. I never claimed this. I don't know why you think I did. In general women can get laid easier then man is a statement of fact. Sorry I don't have "st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 01:35 PM
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I don't think we need a scientific study to agree on something that is easily observable, especially in the United States. According to this, women are the ones with lower standards. Men rate women fairly, but only message the upper brackets. Women rate men harshly, but message them anyway. How do you explain that? Why do men work as hard on their attractiveness as hard as women do? And keep in mind I'm not talking about standards for an average, but standards for initiative. Women have more guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 07:07 AM
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First I did answer your question. Please reread my third paragraph. I explain why men have to do more work to get sex. You didn't explain why. You just said that's how it is. If you'd like, I can ask more specific questions. Let's start with: why do men have lower standards than women- and do you have evidence to support this (the why)? There are more males in the U.S. but women have more viable options when it comes to sexual partners. Less males, not more. So it's not about number of options, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 06:07 AM
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You didn't really answer my question, you just restated your assertion. They have more options so they are more selective. 49% male to 51% females in the US. Men have more options than women. Why do men have to work harder than women to have sex? You'd think that since most people want sex, you'd find a bounty of partners. What's the limiting factor on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 05:52 AM
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Why do men have to work harder than women to have sex? You'd think that since most people want sex, you'd find a bounty of partners. What's the limiting factor on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 04:49 AM
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Rationalism doesn't really value experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 04:10 AM
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I would guess because that's what it was originally called, and it's left as "brand recognition" of sorts. I'm not sure exactly how all the groups became intertwined, but I doubt it was a conscious and immediate decision- thus it wouldn't require a name change. Also, I don't understand why being a feminist necessarily means you can't recognize other forms of oppression- if I were a feminist I would still be able to see that trans folk face a ton of discrimination and racism that's still present …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 02:32 AM
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This anecdote is practically the definition of flimsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 08:58 PM
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The Demon-Haunted World is a fun book. Do you think when people say "patriarchy" that they mean a conspiracy of men, or that it means the happenstance of our history? I think it's the latter, and most people outside of SJWs would probably agree. If you look at the definition of patriarchy I provided, it's simply men disproportionately in power over women. I would say that men are in a position of power over women; just look at representation in government, the rich, or religion, and you'll find …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 04:41 PM
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I got that you believe that. I'd still like to see for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 08:14 AM
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I understand that. I have a problem with you accusing them of saying it to shame men, which is why I'd like to see it to judge for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 07:07 AM
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What did you mean by this: I've heard this phrase used many times in debates I've had with women to make them seem like they are more successful than me/ are of higher value. if not to qualify this: ...feminists use this term to build rapport and shame men. If there's been a misunderstanding, fine, it's happened before. But you should clarify what you mean if there has been one. I'm not seeing how the first quote is anything but an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 06:34 AM
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That's the worst logic I've seen on the subject. You look at two traits in a man and an action in his life and come to a conclusion about... what? You don't even give a conclusion!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 06:17 AM
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...feminists use this term to build rapport and shame men. This is the egregious part that you qualify with: I've heard this phrase used many times in debates I've had with women to make them seem like they are more successful than me/ are of higher value. I'm sure someone has called themselves a strong independent woman, but you're claiming it's a common thing (at least among feminists) and it's to shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 06:04 AM
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Then it should be easy to dissect and tear apart, no? And I don't know how you can accuse me of not reading it when you are the one who admitted to reading less than a quarter of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 05:52 AM
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Honestly, if you're going to ask a question here you should read the answers and actually respond. What's the point of being here if you're just going to be dismissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 05:44 AM
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I'm sure you'll be able to cite that, especially since it's personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 05:34 AM
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I've only ever heard that when making a joke directed at black women. Is it really so widespread?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 11:07 PM
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What does patriarchy mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 11:05 PM
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 10:34 PM
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That's fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:25 PM
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I can't believe you used Cracked as a source seriously. There's no way you're serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:14 PM
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Any one of these should do. They don't necessarily believe what other people write. Of course, but I don't see how it really matters when you have upvotes, downvotes, endorsements, and the sidebar. It doesn't matter if it isn't unanimous if there's a large portion that does believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 05:17 AM
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Who decides what's constructive and destructive? What do you do when about something that's destructive? You can quantify that. When a subset of a movement that requires large-scale social support is turning away potential supporters, then it is destructive. If it gains more support than it loses, it's constructive. And if something is destructive, you attempt to eliminate it, of course. For instance is communism constructive or destructive? I would say destructive since it doesn't work in princ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 05:11 AM
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What do you mean? Only a small group thinks it's necessary to break away from society and morality to get sex. More people would think it's necessary to get food, however. Can you give some examples? I have yet to see it. Confidence and the importance of it can be found in any self-help book, as can advice suggesting working out and improving appearance. Do you think TRPers believe everything written on TRP is absolutely true? It's a sounding board. Red Pillers are only interested in discussing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 04:51 AM
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Something I've mentioned before but haven't mentioned today is that freedom of speech is political; it applies to governments. Private organization like reddit and the moderators of subreddits have the right to censor anything or anyone for any reason or no reason at all. Governments should not be given that power because they have far more power than something like reddit ever will. That distinction is important to me, and probably clarifies my position a bit more. Also, you might want to clari…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:52 AM
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We don't want anyone's sympathy. That's not the point. The point is that there's a lot of people in your situation but they aren't like you, but if they were starving I guarantee that there'd be a lot more overlap. It's possible to find a woman who wants you without limiting yourself to The Red Pill. The positives of The Red Pill can be found in any self-help book without all the junk science, misogyny, and moral relativity/amorality/whatever sounds nicest at the time. It's simply a toxic combin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:43 AM
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If freedom of speech must always be defended, then murder in defense of free speech is justified, no? I think in principal it is a bad idea to implement a policy of censoring ideas even if I vehemently disagree with them. The only realistic response to ideas that you disagree with is criticism and perhaps parody. Until they become destructive rather than constructive. Not all ideas are created equal, and people are dumb. You should not rely on bad ideas being filtered out through discourse. By c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:31 AM
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I wouldn't call something feeling terrible a need, but whatever. I can empathize with rejection, but pretty much everyone can. Pretty much no one sympathizes with The Red Pill, though. Going back to your original analogy, many people would sympathize with stealing food or something along those lines because food is a necessity. While I think social interaction is necessary for a healthy life, being wanted by a women is not a necessity. You will die from one, the other will make you feel bad. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:00 AM
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If they are rejected by society it is because of their views or actions, which they are only exacerbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:50 AM
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I suppose you just replied to the wrong comment, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:39 AM
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Being rejected isn't an excuse to act like children, though. Everyone's been rejected at one point or another; most people just handle it better. I don't have sympathy of them, though I can empathize with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:38 AM
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Yes, that is my position. That conflicts with: You have to look at situations wholistically. Unless by holistically you meant one individual part. I'm wondering what are they actually doing? Forcing gender roles upon people, hurting the men's rights movement, promoting regression society, promoting sociopathic/anti-social behavior. The second list is more of a list of things The Red Pill does to try and legitimatize the first list. That essentially breaks down into circlejerking while claiming o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:29 AM
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Shouting fallacies at people in an argument without support is itself a fallacy. What do you think this is this, /r/atheismrebooted?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:10 AM
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Argument from fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 11:25 PM
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That's fantastic, but now we're back where we started from. Free speech should always be defended? By the way, what exactly is the evil that you think TRPers do? Misogyny, selfishness, promotion of Dark Triad traits, anti-feminism, among others. Most of that is moral, but there's also the anti-science, lack of critical thinking, and censorship of dissent. It's a combination of things that I just happen to find hilarious. "holocosting" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 11:23 PM
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Is that not what men like Plato, Newton, or Edison were, though? They were in the right place at the right time. They didn't build anything on their own. Of course, it was just irony I was pointing out and not an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:59 PM
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Feminism has never actually contributed anything useful to society, now, huh? What a nice work of fiction you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:24 PM
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