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I’d argue it’s more cruel to create an environment where your partner is less incentivised to want to have sex, and then resent them for not wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:15 PM
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Reddit is a much more male dominated platform
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:12 PM
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At what point would you break up if it’s less than 30 days? Does this include being sick, injured, spending time apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:12 PM
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Lmao good chat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:23 PM
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Men compete with other men all the time, especially when it comes to their partners. Everyone wants to be the one with the most attractive, alluring wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:19 PM
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The culture continues bc Eastern men are willing to pick up the bill. In exchange for it, eastern men are a lot more authoritative in their relationships. I know of a couple who both work but she doesn’t pay for a thing and he’ll even pay for her nails, hair etc. The catch is, everything he says goes. If he says no to something, there’s no further discussion. I’d rather just pay my half and keep my independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:18 PM
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Eastern Europe? Or Middle East? I know women from both cultures and they’d be disgusted by the thought of splitting a bill lol. The arguing over the bill is more among friends/family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:13 PM
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Which culture is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:11 PM
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Compared to women they absolutely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:26 PM
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I don’t think this is exclusive to women. Plenty of men step out or leave a relationship because they feel they can do better. A lot of people have a grass is greener mentality. I’ve also known a lot of guys who’ll weigh in if they feel their friend is dating someone less attractive Same thing as if a man were dating a woman who was dull and plain but all his friends were dating women who were gorgeous and exciting, he’d feel a type of way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:22 PM
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What do you mean? I prefer jacked guys not because of aesthetic but I like to be pushed and motivated to be the best version of myself which I can’t get from a guy who spends his weekend eating takeout watching TV
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:05 PM
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It’s a well documented issue many women have had dating men… the common denominator is men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:03 PM
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You’d be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:15 PM

How tf is it my fault how a man was raised by his mum 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:39 PM
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How do you know that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:31 PM
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Why do you think of toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:18 PM
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Why wouldn’t you want to date those girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:15 PM
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Whenever I’ve seen my friends hinge I’m always shocked by how lazy the men’s profiles are. They answer prompts with stuff like “idk” or “I’ll buy you a drink if …. You buy the next round” like so unbelievably dull they can’t possibly think anyone can think of something to say in response? Whereas my friends talk about their interests, hobbies, funny anecdote or at least make it funny if they don’t want to give much away
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:14 PM
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Yeah, it’s an empty gesture to put the ball in your court and call it reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:08 PM
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Based on what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:05 PM
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Not really disproving the point you were trying to make 😂 fortunately I’m in a relationship with someone who had the wise idea to take an interest in my life on our first dates, but I feel for my single friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:05 PM
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Approaching is only the first step. Actual effort is about the time and effort throughout the dating and relationship. All of my single friends at some point have dated men who put no effort into planning the date, asked 0 questions or made any effort to keep the conversation going and still expected to be invited back to her place or have a second date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:40 PM
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Intellectual curiosity and ability to discuss things beyond the surface level, but in a constructive communicative way not just “this is why I’m right and you’re wrong”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:08 PM
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Guy = wants to fuck Girl = must be a basic bitch Right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:59 PM
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It was a girl, she sent to me bc she’s also running a marathon and found the clip funny … Also if a guy sent that to me, the message would very clearly be the opposite 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:55 PM
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I think it was about female runners in general but this clip seemed to focus on marathons ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:31 PM
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I think you just don’t enjoy running and that’s fine haha, when I travel I love going on a morning run to explore the city I’m in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:28 PM
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My friend just sent me a reel of a man saying a woman who is training for a marathon is a red flag for men shortly after I just confirmed my place on a marathon next year lol Any men here care to share their thoughts on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:06 PM
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Where exactly in London were you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:38 PM
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Its just funny bc I live in London and nobody calls it that. Areas are referred to by zone or borough, not “neighbourhood” as they aren’t really a thing unless you go further out, in which case you’re not in central london.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:35 PM
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“Neighbourhoods of central London” …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:28 PM
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Because she’s looking after kids which if outsourced to another person, would cost thousands a month, as well as the cost of a cleaner, cook, driver etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:02 PM
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Can you acknowledge that when a woman leaves the job market to take care of children, her earning potential significantly drops and that’s something to be factored in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:01 PM
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If you’re married to someone, whatever they do does affect you lmao, sorry to be the one to break it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:53 PM
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I suppose it’s interesting to see their thought patterns. They crave a traditional dynamic but when asked more granular questions they obviously desire a modern woman who doesn’t adhere to traditional roles but are unable to see it. Fortunately I have no desire to be a SAHM and after seeing the responses I think very few women should be willing to take that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:50 PM
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Would you expect her to earn money while also taking care of the kids and home full time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:45 PM
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Must be why credit card debt is so unusual in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:45 PM
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What if he suddenly changes the terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:40 PM
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I think you just wanted to talk about your job lol but good for you sounds interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:28 PM
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I feel like reading the first sentence of this post would have saved you some time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:18 PM
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Would you then share the burden in raising children and keeping the home?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:16 PM
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What do you consider to be Veblen goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:06 PM
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So in that case, would you want her to have a job and instead you can split the costs of daycare/cleaners etc? Since you don’t see the value in raising children and keeping a home. Also… do you not see the benefits of washing your ass? :/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:04 PM
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You can tell what someone’s spending habits are before marrying them usually
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:53 PM
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What set up would you consider more reasonable then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:52 PM
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Honestly it’s shocking, no wonder the birth rate is plummeting. I live in London and my cousin was telling me how a daycare for his daughter cost nearly 3 grand a month. His wife is a teacher and that’s her entire salary. If legislators want women to have more children, subsiding daycare and more protection for mothers in the workplace is where they need to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:50 PM
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Yeah very valid answer, if both parties are happy then it’s all gravy. My mum worked before having children and realised that daycare/nannies cost almost the same as her salary, and knew she’d much rather raise her children herself, but when you’re a SAHM to 3 kids your employability drops by a lot. I like my job and hope to be able to freelance/work remotely when I have children as I’d hate the idea of not having my own money to spend as a I choose. I wouldn’t agree to being given an allowance …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:46 PM
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I’m curious to see what their definition is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:55 PM
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What do you mean by treating him like a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:52 PM
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What are you assuming my standards are? Because I’ve already said I don’t mind dating someone who earns less than me. Runner/active would be a perk as I’m training for a marathon which takes up a lot of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:49 PM
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Just because I’m self sufficient doesn’t mean I can’t fall in love or get attached to someone..? There are plenty of ways to be needed outside of finances. By sexual compatibility I guess I mean someone I find attractive and finds me attractive, but I don’t do sex with guys until I know them well and we’ve established exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:46 PM
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Haha I was joking about the FemDom thing, I just find it funny when guys talk about girls being “freaky” when what they’re really referring to is women being submissive/emulating pornstars
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:44 PM
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What if the “freakishness” is being a FemDom? On a first date I agree it’s a no, but at some point it’s normal to talk about what you do for work and you can get an idea of what their career is an how much they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:36 PM
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What masculine traits are you assuming I have? Im in good shape and don’t struggle getting attention from attractive guys, hard to convey I’m a nice person over Reddit but I have a large social circle and I assume at least some of them are around me because they enjoy it, and I funded my way through university by being a chef/caterer 🤷🏼‍♀️ The problem with marriage that puts me off is the fact I have a lot more to lose than most men do, I’m not sure marriage is a safe option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:33 PM
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I’m training for a marathon so I don’t think I struggle with motivation or discipline. I don’t really expect much from a partner because I’m pretty self sufficient as I’ve made a great community and have wonderful friends and family. There’s not a whole lot I need from a partner other than sexual compatibility, someone who I can have interesting conversations and laugh with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:26 PM
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My job is an indicator of my drive and abilities which isn’t a relationship attribute but it is my own, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having pride in what I’ve achieved, I just don’t go on about it and certainly not to people I date. What “acting like it adds anything to your SMV” entail exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:24 PM
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I’m not suggesting I have a SAHD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:19 PM
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I don’t expect my income to be a selling point, I just didn’t expect it to be a source of resentment for partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:05 PM
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Or we share responsibility of the home making and expenses like the majority of couples do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:01 PM
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I am in a relationship btw lol I don’t wear flashy clothes or do anytime to “look” high earning, but once they find out my job and where I work it’s pretty easy to assume what kind of money I’m on, plus the fact I’m a homeowner in London. Not sure I’m open to lying about my job or income if they ask. I don’t want to be a SAHM is the issue. I want to remote freelance/pay for a cleaner and occasional nanny for help. The men I date want me to be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:45 PM
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How exactly have I taken his role and what was my alternative? Not buy a place?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:27 PM
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My ideal set up would be to remote freelance/go part time so I’d be earning less than I do but I’d still have some career. Tbh not something I’ve thought much about as no man I’ve met has said he could even consider being a SAHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:08 PM
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I suppose it’s more when we get to children and what the desired dynamic would be. I struggle with the expectation to give up my career when financially it’s the less rational option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:05 PM
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What else is paying my mortgage..? I also have a great family, friends, hobbies and community and I enjoy my job - but those things aren’t really relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:01 PM

This won’t bother women who are happy in their relationships, I’ve made jokes about it to my bf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:05 PM

If a woman you were dating owned her own place and you didn’t, how would you want to move in. Would you pay bills, pay her rent, or ask for your name to be added to the mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:03 PM

If she already has those things she’ll be fine. My problem is that a disproportionate amount of my time goes to trying to keep him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:15 PM

Unfortunately I’ve recently moved in with him which makes it a lot harder, I’m really regretting it as he’s the one who pushed for it. I keep hearing the narrative that at my age my options are low so I should either be okay with being alone forever or be willing to stick it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:27 PM

Is 26 too late to leave a relationship and start over? I know if I stay he’ll like propose within a year and I’ll be married the year after and I thought that’s what I wanted; but I can’t stop imagining the time and freedom I’d have being single, and I don’t want kids as much as he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:23 PM
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But sure, I’d never pay alimony to an ex husband
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:51 PM
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Where did I say that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:50 PM
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People change over time, especially if you meet them young. No amount of “vetting” can mitigate that. People can go through things that completely change them. Job loss, family deaths, accidents, addictions etc. I had a relationship from 20-24 and in that short span we grew apart, we became very different and weren’t compatible anymore. We weren’t the same people we were as when we started dating and that’s fine. I’m much happier we broke up than him stay with me if he wasn’t happy, and vice ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:59 AM
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Not being exciting isn’t the same as cohabiting with someone who makes you miserable to be around. I’d far rather someone divorce me than stay with me and be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:42 AM
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Why do you think people should stay in a marriage they’re not happy or compatible in?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:35 AM
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You have an array of wealthy men who don’t want prenups trying to marry you? Not trying to knock you but being pragmatic and self sufficient is important no matter who you’re married to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:21 PM
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And if he has a watertight prenup and leaves you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:07 PM
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I’ll keep working bc if my husband leaves or dies that’s a tough spot to be in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:00 PM
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Having close friends is very important and I agree a lot of people overlook that, but also I can’t expect my close friends to look out for me and put me first in the same way I would to my partner. I mean even the word “partner” kind of spells it out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:31 PM
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I think a hallmark of real love in a relationship is when shit hits the fan, that person is going to do their best to be there for you and make life easier as much as they can. It’s nice to have someone in your corner and to be in their corner when they need you. A lot of people underestimate how important it is for us to feel needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:21 PM
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Fair enough, I wouldn’t circumcise my son unless it was medically necessary but it’s also much less common in the UK. Agreed with ear piercings although that seems to be more of a cultural thing. I was desperate to get mine pierced and my mum didn’t allow it until I was 13 which I was fuming about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:49 PM
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Exactly. If the kid is being cared for and has a stable home, who cares who that’s with? Can’t really win either way. If you don’t work you’re not pulling your weight financially and you’re sponging off your husband, and if you do work you’re a bad mother who cares more about a job than her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:26 AM
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I find this topic so interesting. My bf is circumcised and has no negative feelings about it and if anything he likes that it’s cleaner and neater. I asked if he’d want his son to be circumcised and he said he wasn’t bothered either way. Not sure why he was circumcised as he’s British which is unusual, and not religious. It’s only ever online I’ve seen people express a very negative opinion on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:12 AM
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I see this one woman online who talks about her sons father having full custody and she gets regularly crucified for it. She still sees her son but she’s more of a “Disneyland” parent, they’ll go on weekends away and trips but he stays with his father for the most part. She says that the father is better at the day to day stuff and enjoys it a lot more than she does, and everyone is happy with this set up. I had friends who were shuttled to each parents house every week as a kid and hated it, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:07 AM
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She was expressing solidarity for their shared struggles which he has publicised a lot, he was arsey for no reason. It would save everyone a lot of trouble if men were happier without women, trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:34 PM
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Decentering men isn’t exclusive to being single, and she can still talk about previous times in your life you’ve been single and decentered men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:29 PM
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More than a tiny portion of men are in relationships/have sex/date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:56 AM
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That’s… literally the point she was making
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:56 AM
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Nah a lot of women do: serial daters, women obsessed with their appearance, pick me girls, homewreckers etc. common denominator is that they’re all miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:42 AM
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Why the hostility ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:40 AM
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Not the best example as I’m in a LTR but when I was single I wasn’t dating and very much decentered men- I randomly met my bf in a club and things took off from there. My last relationship, I felt like my ex’s mother and that he needed me so much more than I needed him. When we broke up I had so much time and energy to put into myself, my friends and my hobbies. I lost weight, got a new better job, made a bunch of new friends, got back into my hobbies like climbing and running. I didn’t want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:23 AM
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When someone vents to me it doesn’t ruin my mood or my day, if they’re my friend I’d far rather they felt comfortable telling me than holding it in. To me it’s a sign someone feels safe and comfortable around me which I’d hope all my friends feel around me. It would only get annoying if the venting was constant and about the same issue which could be resolved but they won’t for whatever reason. Or if they only ever wanted to vent to me about their issues without ever checking in on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:16 PM
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I remember talking to a bunch of male coworkers and i can’t remember how we got into the topic but I was saying how if I was really struggling or had a terrible day, I would call my friends to vent and it always makes me feel better. They seemed to find that really weird and I was explaining that it’s not that I was after advice or answers but sometimes just having someone listen while you vent can make you feel a hundred times better, you work through it and calm down and it becomes far less in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:39 PM
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As exemplified by the fact not a single man who doesn’t fit these characteristics is in a relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:57 PM
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Which high standards exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:51 PM

It’s wild that this even needs saying. If a guy felt he could do better than me I wouldn’t begrudge him of that at all and I’d much rather he found someone else than CONVINCE himself to like me. I’d find that so demeaning. Do these men have zero pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:48 PM
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Home made food can still be excellent though… you’re either attracted to someone and want to be with them, or you’re not. You can’t be convinced into it. Same with food, you can maybe stomach food that isn’t as nice but that doesn’t mean you’ll keep choosing it knowing you can just have the 3-star food if you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:46 PM
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This is why having your own income and stability is so important for women. My partner may wake up in 20 years and decide I’m no longer attractive and if I can’t support myself, my livelihood is contingent on somehow defeating ageing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:27 PM
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I don’t mind venting or partners opening up, that’s a normal and given part of any relationship. For me I’ve struggled with partners who feel neglected and resentful whenever I want to do stuff with my friends or by myself, because they expect me to mould my entire world around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:32 AM
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Yes - in every relationship including my current my partner has always needed me much more than I need them. This is because I have a very active social life and am lucky to have a lot of close friends I can call on for support when I need it. The majority of men don’t have this and all their emotional needs get dropped onto my lap. I don’t tend to share all my problems with my partner because on some issues I know my friends are better equipped to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:01 AM
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The vast majority of school/uni dropouts do not go on to be successful entrepreneurs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:04 PM
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How many people with those traits actually end up as successful entrepreneurs? You also need to be focused and driven which is also what makes someone good academically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:55 PM

That attitude generally doesn’t bode for a happy, healthy relationship. Weirdly, I care more about being a good partner and not a lazy ass. He’s my partner, not my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:59 AM

If I have sex with someone I find attractive, is that me “rewarding” them for finding them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:58 AM

I own the home my bf and I live in. Does that mean I’m exempt from doing any housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:56 AM

Women like sex with men that aren’t inconsiderate and incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:56 AM

What do you mean by leverage? If they both live in the same home, they’re both responsible for its condition
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:51 AM

Wild that you’re backing your argument with two extremely different subreddits 😂 not having a backbone is unattractive, so is being lazy and inconsiderate - both can be true!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:32 AM

Ahahahah you really don’t get it at all, it was never about the dishes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:30 AM

As a man who presumably wants a good sex life with a woman, it’s worthwhile understanding women’s sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:22 AM

It’s not about ‘leveraging’ sex. It’s genuinely hard to be attracted to someone who’s sloppy, lazy and doesn’t respect your time. Why is this so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:34 AM
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Both partners should be. So if he isn’t, he needs to start doing his share
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:29 AM
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That’s just being outgoing and driven. Those things don’t get you in trouble at school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:48 PM
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how come boys don’t perform better in all boys schools?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:47 PM
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Funnily - girls perform better academically in all girls schools. However, boys perform better academically in mixed schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:45 PM
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At my university (top 10 in the UK) when you submitted coursework or exams, the names would be redacted before they got to the examiner… from a quick search, this is more common in the UK and less so in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:42 PM
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Idk about where you’re from, but exams and coursework are marked blind… as in examiners shouldn’t be able to see the name so they can’t have any bias from gender, race etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:39 PM
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Has the way children are educated dramatically changed in the last 100 years? In my parents generation students were also expected to be still and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:38 PM
1

No, but I’m interested to see why people think this is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:37 PM
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How is being impatient and breaking rules beneficial in the “real world”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:36 PM
3

Why do you think young girls are excelling academically more than boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:12 PM
2

Usually women don’t suddenly start clubbing and wearing revealing clothes AFTER you become official. That’s what the dating period is for. If you don’t like how she lives her life, that’s fine, move on. My bf tried to get me to go out less until I pointed out I literally met him on a night out lol, that bought that conversation to a close.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:54 PM
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Not saying it’s anyone’s fault just pointing out the issue with the stats people love quoting to claim that women are constantly just leaving marriages for any minor reason
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:47 PM
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Child support, funnily enough, is for his children… All of the above can be dealt with by a prenup, most people don’t have assets and property to worry about being taken off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:20 PM
3

What other payouts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:54 PM
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I’ve known multiple cases when it was the man who left or cheated but wasn’t the one to file the paperwork as he couldn’t be bothered and I believe this is pretty commonplace and skews the overall stats a lot. Especially as if the man is trying to protect his assets, he can do that more easily if she’s the one filing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:35 PM
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Why do you automatically assume a woman making money means she doesn’t value you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:14 PM
0

Most relationships are financially 50/50 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:18 PM
1

Who are you married to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:09 PM
3

Financial Times - this is for the UK though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:02 PM
0

I have a fiancé, sorry to break it to you! He’s in oil, I’m in finance, we’re both doing just fine :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:02 PM
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Most people would rather have their children raised by someone confident and capable rather than insecure and inept
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:56 AM
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Not really. There are plenty of hot guys around, there’s no reason for me to keep one around who doesn’t treat me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:34 PM
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Except they behaved very differently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:19 PM
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You just have the inverse halo effect - nothing you say actually disproves my point. Not all unattractive guys are automatically going to treat a woman better and there are many valid reasons as to why they’d treat her worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:07 PM
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This! The idea that if you date a man less attractive - he’ll wow you with his dazzling personality and treat you wonderfully couldn’t be further from the truth. They get possessive, jealous and MEAN because they’re always trying to knock you down a peg so you won’t leave for someone better. My ex who treated me horribly I had to convince myself to find attractive, whereas I was immediately very attracted to my bf who treats me well. Idk why men assume that attractive men are all dogs who cheat …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:17 PM

Honestly - be attractive enough that women will pursue you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:12 PM
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We have eachothers passcodes and go on eachothers phones all the time, plus I’m all over his social media 🥱 you’re the embodiment of misery loves company ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:02 AM
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My bf is 6’2 and loves to cook for me, sorry :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:44 AM
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No - they already said nature will take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:40 AM
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Does she know you write essays on Reddit complaining about women’s dating preferences 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:38 AM
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You realise there are guys out there who are both good partners and attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:37 AM
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So my two options in life are to be mistreated by someone I’m attracted to, or be with someone I’m not attracted to 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 09:16 AM
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Same as the many, many instances of SA by men not being publicised or punished properly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:56 PM
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You should look up stealthing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:39 PM
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The vast majority of child SA is committed by men 🥱obviously, women who do it are just as deplorable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:59 AM
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More often than not it’s the 40 year old men doing mental gymnastics to justify wanting to sleep with teenagers, not 40 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:39 AM
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Dear god just move to Iran and marry a child if you’re that desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:37 AM
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Last time I had a dating app I was 20, I kept my age range from 20-26. I never lied about my age. Since that I’ve had 2 relationships both of whom I met in real life, the first was the same age as me and my bf now is 2 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:26 AM
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Are you sure? Birth rates are dropping rapidly, many women I know aren’t keen on having children ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:37 PM
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Explained in edit ^ women aren’t keen on voting for people who deem them only valuable as vessels for sons and want to limit their bodily autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:51 AM
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Political parties with stringent anti immigrations policies tend to also be opposed to women. The UK Reform party for example: one of the candidates has tweeted that the main thing young girls can aspire to is to have sons. Not a great way to appeal to female voters. Nigel Farage also wants to limit when women can have abortions, despite 90% of abortions taking place before 10 weeks in the UK. A lot of foetal abnormalities aren’t detected until 20 weeks - and these can be detrimental to the moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:14 AM
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What exactly are western women supposed to do to prevent that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:01 AM
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And what would incentivise any of them to leave? If I leave my job I’ll be homeless within months and I guess have to move back in with my parents who would rather I didn’t cramp their style in their retirement. What should my bf do in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:22 PM
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How exactly does it benefit women to have no autonomy? You realise lesbians exist btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:19 PM
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They pretty much have done when it’s been enforced in places like Afghanistan and Iran
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:11 PM
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Plenty of good people get divorced, shit happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:59 AM
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And who would provide for the children of all the women leaving the workplace en masse until wages adjust? Your proposal would leave families homeless and broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:20 AM
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What’s the alternative - have children that they can’t afford? The issue there is more about capitalism and the dire cost of living crisis, exacerbated by yours truly, the orange idiot you voted in
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:29 PM
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Lol, my friends in their early 30s single are saying they’re waiting for the first round of divorces now for the good ones to be freed up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:16 PM
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Okay..? Plenty of women get IVF for reasons that aren’t related to their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:15 PM
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Why not enjoy the decade of perky boobs and the have the loving family?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:06 PM
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I think the grass is always greener and we’ll always wonder what a different path would have looked like. As a woman, it’s actually very easy to get married if that’s what you want. The quality of the man and the marriage is a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:57 PM
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So why can’t you apply that rationale to older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:45 PM
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How do you mean “too much power” exactly? Surely that power is only given to them by the men who choose to reward them for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:44 PM
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But then how does that benefit the women? How do they know the man loves them for them, and not just because they’re beautiful and young, which is only temporary?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:37 PM
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On the basis I believe in social, political and economic equality for both sexes, yes I am a feminist. The newer waves have elements I’m less convinced on as I think trivialise the entire movement and infantilise women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:43 PM
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Because my bf and I have talked about it and he said he’d feel very emasculated if I did, it’s something he feels very strongly about wanting to do himself. No reason for me to steal his thunder. I approached my bf and made it known I was into him (we met in a bar) but he’s the one who asked me out, if that answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:38 PM
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Scanning your post - I’ve never hit a man and don’t plan to I’m not against women proposing to their bfs although I personally wouldn’t I always offer to split on dates, although as my bf earns more lives at home he insists on picking up more cheques I’m pro choice but think men should be allowed to opt out if they do so before the abortion cutoff… anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:31 PM
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A main one I can think of is women who get the upper hand is child custody cases. Not much I can do there since I don’t have or plan to have children, nor do I work in family law. But I strongly feel that if a child has two competent, loving parents then they should spend time with each of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:19 PM
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Because nobody’s bothered or talking about about age gaps where the younger party isn’t very young
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:32 AM
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Because she wants you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:42 PM
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Because a 28 and 38 year old couple is very different to 18 and 28
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:12 PM
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Surprisingly, people factor in things other than age
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:13 PM
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Your female friends don’t account for all women Idk what age range we’re talking - but usually women who say this do so because younger men are usually more immature and don’t want to settle down yet compared to men in their later 20s but again, I need an age range here. But you’re asking me to explain the preferences of a few women I have never spoken to… why don’t you ask them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:52 PM
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Younger men are also prettier and less likely to have children. Also, multiple things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:46 PM
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It’s a sweeping generalisation from both sides. People can be single at 35 for a myriad of reasons that aren’t their fault. From what I’ve seen - the most common reason is that that they were in a long term relationship that didn’t work out, but dragged on years longer than it should have. I don’t condone criticising people for being single because it’s not my business why they are. The backlash about older men dating younger women isn’t so much why is he single at X age but rather why they don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:40 PM
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None. They have no interest in finding meaningful connection or improving themselves in ways that don’t directly impact their desirability to men. I’ve read something about the importance of education, not for yourself, but because rich men are more likely to pursue educated women?? All that debt and hard work just to improve your odds of securing a man?? It’s supposed to be empowering but is incredibly vapid and male centric. It’s also very idealist, only a small portion of men can afford to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:55 PM

How exactly have women betrayed men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:03 AM
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Most people already know how to cook before being in a relationship. Also when you’re in a relationship you’re in that relationship 24/7 - you just spend time doing other things as well. So do you just expect her to be cooking for 8 hours straight while you’re at work? Why can’t she just go to work as well ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:58 PM
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Can you be specific on “acquiring skills to spend time with your partner in a different way”? I meant if she’s spending 8 hours a day with you, how do YOU have a career unless she’s following you around work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:21 PM
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How exactly does someone dedicate 8 hours a day to a relationship? How does that leave you with any time for a career?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:07 PM
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Why can’t a wife have a career?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:14 PM
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What do you mean by “respecting your man” - like which particular actions does that entail in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:13 PM

I mean, that’s still a whole year where a woman needs to be with the child a lot more, and you’d still expect her to fully provide as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:56 AM

Not necessarily. I’ve travelled a fair bit, I go to raves and love a night out, by a lot of markers people assume I’ve had a lot more partners than I have. I also know some women who are very proper but have slept with 30+ people and you’d never guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:36 AM
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You do realise many women breastfeed for up to a year, sometimes longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:30 AM

Sure, but it’s not exactly straightforward to do. Asking someone their past early on is a pretty good way to put a spanner in the works. I have a very low body count and I’d still be put off by a man prying into my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:22 AM
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What would your ideal set up be then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:36 PM
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If a woman can do 100 push ups while remaining slender and flat - not being overly muscular - she’s a medical marvel 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:35 AM
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Okay, do you want a woman who can do all of those as well? Because she won’t be slender if she can
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:23 AM
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Wdym by match your fitness? I’m quite a bit fitter than the average woman but my bf could still easily outrun me and bench over twice what I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:19 AM
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Would you want to be a stay at home father instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:20 AM

Incredibly generous of him, women worldwide with insufficient hair and boobs have all let out a sigh of relief
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:07 PM

So only physical attributes, most of which can be easily changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:18 PM

You probably didn’t even know her at the time..? Wym “you weren’t invited” if she literally married you? If that’s how neurotic you are, you’re genuinely better off just not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:56 PM

And what constitutes as “everyone” because that’s quite the feat if it really is everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:48 PM

How do you mean “experienced” your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:26 PM

Ask why those men are happy to be with women who earn less
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:39 PM

It is if they choose to stay, (assuming they’re not in any danger if they did leave)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:38 PM

Obviously not, but that’s not the same as dating around when you’re young until you meet someone you like and want to settle down with. My bf didn’t meet me until he was 26, I don’t feel begrudged by the fact he had past relationships and hookups before me, in fact I’m glad he did as it gave him some insight and experience that helps keep our relationship happy and healthy. I’d be FAR more bitter if I was still with the man I was with at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:11 PM

Why is that so upsetting to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:12 PM

Which preferences would you compromise on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:03 PM
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I would prefer to do it proportional to income (yes even if I earned more) but I want to be a SAHM until my child is old enough for school so during that time that obviously means he would be the breadwinner. While the child/children are school age I’d still expect my partner to pick up most of the bills given that I’d probably still be doing the majority of the parenting. I’m just not interested in having to go back to work 1 month after giving birth and having to stress about keeping up with b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:35 PM
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Because you’re going to that class with the intention of picking up women, meaning that you’re going to do something to achieve that desired outcome. Men are never as subtle as they think, we see you from a mile away 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:43 PM
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Because you’ve made your intention clear already
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:24 PM
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The issue isn’t men participating, it’s how the behave with the women in that class. If they’re genuinely just there to improve their core strength great for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:46 AM
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It’s fairly painfully obvious if you’re the only man in a woman’s workout class. The reason I’m even aware of this is because I’ve heard women complain about men joining women’s classes and trying to hit on them in there. The sports I do are more male dominated so it makes no difference to me and I’m also in a relationship. You sound like someone who wears a fedora, you’re not nearly as suave as you think you are I’m afraid 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:11 AM
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I don’t expect you to care what I think, but if you’re at a Pilates class hoping to meet women there, I imagine you’d care what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:48 AM
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The same reasons many people would say an woman shouldn’t expect a fit man to want to date her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:41 AM
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And who’s attacking the man..?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:40 PM
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I don’t pose the same physical threat as he does but an attacker will always target someone who’s alone versus multiple people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:33 PM
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I’m not expecting him to give up his life for me lol. I’m significantly safer just walking with a 6’2 well built man than I would be alone and he doesn’t have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:26 PM
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Where did I say I see him as disposable? I just said it’s a nice perk. Same as men who like a woman who works out because of how her body looks. It’s not the entire thing but it’s nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:18 PM
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Why ‘more’ fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:20 PM
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I was just wondering where the 87% stat came from
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:14 PM
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By out of shape do you mean overweight? Wow that’s crazy, didn’t know it was that high in the US. I agree with you but there are a myriad of reasons around health and quality of life to be in good shape. I was never out of shape to begin with but when I started running long distance running the amount of energy I now have is crazy. I am so much happier and more productive as a result, I couldn’t care less if it makes me more or less attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:31 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:09 PM
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Can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:39 PM
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Why exactly is an obese woman low status, is an obese man low status?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:04 PM
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My bf approached me in a bar :) also I didn’t mention cold approaching outside of a Pilates class at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:22 PM
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Fair enough! I like having a strong, active partner for that reason but it’s also nice to know I’m safe around him if we’re travelling or walking at night, and if I got hurt he could haul my ass out 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:16 AM
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I suppose the issue you’ve pointed out is what I’m picking up on. A lot of men describe the obesity epidemic as if it’s only women who are overweight and obese when it’s largely the same for both genders (varies within different age groups, demographics etc but not by much)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:11 AM
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What metric is that based off - people who attend a gym? Genuinely curious not being snarky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:09 AM
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I’m very grateful to live in a walkable city for this reason - my commute to work includes 25 minutes of walking each way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:08 AM
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This is something I suspect. I know plenty of thin people who can’t run a mile or hold a plank for more than a few seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:06 AM
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Fair enough - is there a specific criteria for this or do you just go by BMI?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:11 AM
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I’d say being pregnant and risking your life to give birth is someone what strenuous than taking the trash out. Daycare costs more than a lot of peoples salaries. And I’d rather raise my own baby than leave it with someone else. My “50” of the equation would be looking after the baby and the home. Something that would cost a LOT to outsource to someone else. The key is just to find someone who is willing and able to provide that for me. I am not obliged to have babies with someone who can’t fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:55 PM
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Many women breastfeed for up to a year, sometimes more. You’re not actually addressing my point, just throwing out random strawmen about how some women don’t breastfeed. Men biologically can’t go 50/50 on these things so why do they expect 50/50 finances from women during this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:47 PM
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Unless you have tits you can breastfeed with, the early stages of childcare are pretty much all her. Do what works for you but I can’t imagine going through pregnancy, childbirth, doing the lions share of looking after a baby to still be expected to cough up half for the bills. Any woman who agrees to this is insane imo. I’ve made this explicitly clear to my partner who fortunately feels the same as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:41 PM
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But the pregnancy, birth and childcare is 100% her…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:07 PM

This sub makes me appreciate my bf who’s nice and normal so much
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:53 AM
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Would you go 50/50 if you had children with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:52 AM
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Fair enough, until starting my most recent job I’ve always worked with mostly men! Also I’m sure my industry plays a role as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:34 PM
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I work on a team of a fairly even split of men and women (I’m in finance) the men on my team are constantly making snarky comments about coworkers, clients, even people within the team when they’re not around, I’m sure I’ve been shit talked at some point too. One guy was complaining about our boss to me over a work platform which was stressful as those channels are obviously monitored. The women don’t, if there’s a difficult client you obviously have to report the issues back to the team but oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:40 AM
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You can’t form a genuine emotional connection in ten minutes ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:34 PM
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Maybe that time would have been better spent paying your taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:08 PM
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But why did you previously settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:51 PM
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You tell me, you’re the one who’s settled multiple times apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:49 PM
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I’ve seen a lot of lanky/muscular men with “bigger” women, although I suppose that definition is subjective. (I’m on about size UK 12-16, not sure what that is in US sizing)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:44 PM

I thought you rational men loved practical solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:16 PM

Reddit divorce subs are known for their wealth of unbiased information, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:29 PM

Do you have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:28 PM

He’s very upset at his imaginary stay at home wife who’s not pulling her weight and will soon divorce him to collect spousal support, go easy on him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:27 PM

Don’t marry someone who doesn’t have a job or wants to be a stay at home wife then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:23 PM

Nobody’s forcing you to date someone who’s at home..?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:33 PM
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The category “teen” is one of the most popular categories in porn, and a lot of these women are dressed as schoolgirls, have fake braces or juvenile hairstyles to look younger than 18. It is absolutely about looking like young teenagers. There’s also a lot of exploitation and trafficking that goes in porn and a lot of the women even on more “reputable” sites are underaged or there against their will (look up the court case from “girls do porn”)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:05 PM
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Porn isn’t the issue itself, the disgust usually comes from men who regularly watch porn that’s very degrading to women or features women who are clearly supposed to look like young teenagers. Don’t really see how that’s comparable to women who want sugar daddies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:48 PM
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Almost every successful and career driven woman I know is in a long term relationship, including myself. It’s not that hard. If I ever told someone I couldn’t date them bc I was focusing on my career, I’d be full of shit and the real reason would just be that I didn’t want them and I’m trying to be nice about it. My bf works 7-7 in the office most days and we still make time for eachother because we want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:46 AM
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Can you explain why they’d ask her out again then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:35 PM
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I met my bf in a club, my ex at a friends birthday party, you all need to get out more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:35 PM

Women have tits and ass and naturally carry more fat. Even at 115lbs I was still a C/D cup and obviously those bad boys hold weight. The stats are about the same. Because of hormones, muscle mass and height it’s also much easier for a man to be a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:46 AM

The average male is overweight and probably isn’t focused on macros
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:21 AM
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Not strictly. I’ve known this to happen to loads of women and then the guy will ask for a second date. Some guys just suck at convo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:33 AM

You see it perpetuated most by RP men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:32 AM
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Not every date is from an app
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:19 PM
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I should clarify - the job I got was my career, it was a graduate scheme for an investment bank where I’m now at in a senior role. Also, women in positions like mine have pick of higher earnjng men. Despite mens here protestations, basically every successful man I’ve met in my industry is married to a woman who is also successful in her own industry. People more often than not date within their pool. A successful guy might sleep with a hot 22 year old bartender but he won’t marry her. Any man ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:01 AM
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But doesn’t align with “prioritise finding a man first” like no, I graduated university and got my current job before I met my bf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:35 AM
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But you have to put the groundwork in your 20s to take off in your 30s/40s. I’m in a long term relationship and earn a lot more than the average salary for my age (24). Every woman I work with is also either married or in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:55 AM
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Where did I say that? I’m saying you can pursue both in your 20s if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:49 AM
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More of a response to your advice of “MAN first, everything else second” you can be both successful and married, if you want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:45 AM
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You realise women can pursue a career and have a relationship in their 20s at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:41 AM
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Well, he is the common denominator in his relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:32 PM
0

What does she have to do with his dating choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:28 AM
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Because porn perpetuates the idea that all women enjoy this so there’s no reason to ask permission. Regardless, it’s gross and dangerous to do that to someone if you don’t know they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:28 PM
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Not to mention how much porn is actually showing victims. Look up the court cases behind “Girls Do Porn” the victims were duped into thinking they were going to a vanilla clothing photoshoot, and instead were drugged, raped and had the videos distributed against their will and it ruined their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:25 PM
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Every single one of my friends has had a man slap them, choke them or start doing anal without asking for permission and it is because of porn. In some cases it’s lead to some real trauma and future aversion to intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:06 PM
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And what if the answer is no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:01 PM

The whole story reads like a theatrical fantasy. Could have just said “my friend was dating a girl I’d previously slept with and didn’t realise until he bought her to a party”. Plus some major plot holes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:46 PM

Yeah, not ideal that his gf used to hook up with you although bizarre it took until that party for you to realise although your story is also bizarre. In 8-9 months, he really never showed you a picture of her,mentioned her on social media, or even said her name or any other clues that would make you connect the dots? If he knew the name and some details of the girl while you were hooking up with her, would he not wonder if she was the same person when they started dating? I live in a capital ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:39 PM
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Can you elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:52 PM
1

Interesting take
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:50 PM

Ok but how exactly does he find this out? Men here obsess over this fantasy of finding out their wife was a nymphomaniac before him and never elaborate on how they come across this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:49 PM
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False equivalency and irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:30 PM
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I back this. Of course the guy has free will to say no, and the step after this would be to break up. I’d never hound someone over this and start inspecting their search history, too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:29 PM
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My hair is considered provocative by some cultures, does that mean my partner would be justified in asking me to cover it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:28 PM
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What’s stopping him from communicating that with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:25 PM
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For sure, in any healthy lasting relationship both people want to make changes to be the best versions of themselves for eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:23 PM
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How do you define provocatively exactly? Because even in my most provocative outfit I’m still wearing more than the women in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:21 PM
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Agreed, most people aren’t that special, but the person you’re dating should ideally think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:19 PM
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What’s the equivalency between wearing a strappy top and watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:17 PM

You couldn’t Waterboard that out of me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:16 AM

That’s kind of how it’s worked for me, the times I’ve met someone I was just out living my life and it happened unexpectedly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:17 PM

Or if you’re gna go clubbing, go because you enjoy it, don’t ruin your night by hoping a woman is going to talk to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:57 PM

Well I didn’t go to that club trying to meet someone the way I would if I went to a singles event or dating app. I go there to dance and scream pop songs in my friends faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:20 PM

I know that, and I’m aware of the risks, but that doesn’t change the fact that a lot of couples meet at work or through friends. All relationships have negative ramifications if they fall apart. I didn’t meet my bf at a singles event, it was just a normal club, I know a fair few people who met that way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:50 PM

Yeah, I met my bf in a club. I met my ex at a friends birthday party, and my ex before him at a university house party. I’ve never liked apps or thought they bought any value. Most of my friends met their partners through mutual friends, work, uni. To be fair I’ve met my bf in the more unusual way, but apps are still a fairly small percentage to what I’ve been exposed to. I think a lot of people are very jaded by apps and just want to meet people in real life now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:35 PM

This is what you’re thinking about at Christmas
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:13 PM
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Is anything ever mens fault lol I’m in my twenties and engaged, I’m doing fine. But I’m also aware that I got really lucky with how I met my partner and the type of person he is, there aren’t many men like him around and I wouldn’t settle for anything less just to be engaged. My friends who are older and still single are attractive, slim, kind people, they just have a shit run with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:45 AM
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From what I’ve seen, most were in relationships for most of their twenties that ended up not working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:36 AM
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Shit, better start before ThE wAlL comes for me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:03 AM
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So she doesn’t hit the wall because you got to be with her during her “best” years, but she still looks the same as she did if she were single - And you wouldn’t be tempted to find another 22 year old? I wondered when weight would come into this. Men here talk about weight like the average man is lean and fit and it’s just women who are overweight 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:02 AM
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What do you mean by “got some of her youth”? Really weird phrasing. From 22 to 31 she would become more mature and self assured, have more income, and wouldn’t look that different if she took good care of herself…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:49 PM
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You could argue that attractive people are used to getting attention and aren’t thrown off or phases by it. If an unattractive guy with a gf gets hit on, he’s much more likely to get gassed up and contemplate acting on it because there’s much more novelty to it. I’ve seen so many couples where the more unattractive partner cheats, I think it’s a way for them to “even” the scales or to feel superior. With men it’s a case of kill the cheerleader.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:08 PM
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I mean, my taller friends have always struggled with dating guys and feel they can’t wear heels unless the guy is significantly taller. Even I’ve been told by a guy friend he wouldn’t date someone my height (he’s also 5’6) A lot of famous heartthrobs are short women, Selma Hyek for example. These days you don’t rlly hear about guys lusting after VS models.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:03 PM
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Fair enough, I was just generalising and going off my own experiences :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:55 PM
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The fashion industry is predominantly upheld by gay men… A 5’9 man (which is average height) would choose a 5’3 woman over a 5’9 woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:39 PM
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The divorce rate is highest among couples with a 20+ year age gap, so telling women to pursue significantly older men isn’t really a good idea, unless she’s after a few years of a comfortable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:21 PM
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Idk why heights a thing here, I see a lot of men who consider any woman over 5’5 a behemoth. Saying this as someone who’s 5’6. Besides, majority of people are overweight and most people as asymmetrical. Being super fit and symmetrical would put you in the top category of women. Being short gives you more options. Most men prefer a woman at least a few inches shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:05 PM
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The issue remains that I don’t want to be a step mother. And it would be cruel of me to be around a child I have no interest in looking after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:52 PM
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The difference is though I’d vow to look after my partner no matter what happened, not some random kid that pops up years in and has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:45 PM
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I don’t mind one day being a carer for my partner if such a thing were to happen. I just don’t want to be a step mother. Vows don’t include “even if you have children you were previously unaware of” I also wouldn’t really want to marry someone who had a history of casual sex to the point he knocked someone up without even knowing about it. If the baby mama was suddenly coming out from the woodwork I just wouldn’t want any part of that drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:27 PM
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Bringing in a child I never vowed to raise because I wasn’t even aware of their existence is a fairly good way to negate the vows. It’s certainly a lot more than a minor inconvenience. I do not want to be a step mother, but I know how harmful it is for children to have an adult in their life who clearly doesn’t want to be there. I wouldn’t traumatise a child like that, therefore the correct action would be for me to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:22 PM
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I’d leave. I wouldn’t want to raise a child that’s not my own and deal with the drama and the hassle that would come with the child’s mother. I’d wish them a happy life and see myself out. I’m still pretty young, I can find a man that doesn’t have an elf child wondering around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:51 PM
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But doesn’t speak to great satisfaction with having a very submissive wife
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:03 PM
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Out of interest what makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:56 PM
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I mean, they feel the need to have multiple wives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:46 PM
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How someone feels about you is directly reflected in how they treat you. Taking someone to KFC as a first date is a glaringly clear sign you don’t have a high opinion of them and don’t really care if they have a nice time. The issue isn’t even money, there are plenty of cheap/free dates you can do which are still thoughtful and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:12 PM
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A woman not wanting a KFC date is subsequently a nightmare? Says a lot about you if you’re seeking out women who don’t respect themselves and accept bare minimum crumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:22 PM
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Not really relevant to what I said but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:28 PM
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You can want to spend time with a guy and still respect yourself enough to not accept a date at KFC lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:30 PM
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Yeahhh this is way off. Attractive women know they can get rich men so why would they split or even pay. Kind why sugar babies and trophy wives are a thing. Plus most attractive women require money to be/maintaining attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:28 PM
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What’s your beef with this guy lol, he likes his partner and they have a setup that works for them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:26 PM
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Is 4 boyfriends really considered a lot? Most people have a few relationships before settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:36 PM
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I’ve met a couple guys through friends who are deep in the manosphere realm and in my experience they are SO obvious with it. My friend was dating one of these guys who wouldn’t stop going on about how “logical” he was and spouted a load of bro science to my boyfriend, who has a degree in chemistry. Then went on about “traditional values” and basically wouldn’t leave me alone about feminism and referred to himself as a “high value male” even when I tried to steer the conversation to more normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:59 PM
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About what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:45 PM
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I don’t hear the men who get laid often complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:49 PM
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It’s a how long is a piece of string question. I’ve been really lucky and had a really easy time. I met my ex at a party through friends, a few weeks after we broke up I met my boyfriend in a club. I’ve been on a handful of dates from hinge when I was at uni that were all a bit meh. Some guys meet the loves of their life in school or university and have an easy time with it. Obviously, men who are born attractive or with the personality type of being extroverted and charming have a much better t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:54 PM
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Not sure why you’re taking this up with me, I’m not a mod
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:49 PM
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Most white collar women are dating other white collar men, that’s the rule not the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:14 AM
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Why are you assuming you know every couples job? I’ve only ever dated white collar guys who work in air conditioned offices like me, so what difference does that make to our relationship just because there are other guys out there working physically demanding jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:00 AM
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With my career trajectory I’ll be on 6 figures in a couple years and so will my boyfriend which works because when I was children I don’t want a sudden nosedive in my quality of life while I’m looking after a baby and unable to work. If that’s unreasonable, fine. I’ve made it clear I want to be a SAHM or go part time until all our children are old enough for school so I’d need him to shoulder the majority of the financial responsibilities which he’s very enthusiastic to do. There are men out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:56 AM
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If you do your share, then no argument needs to happen 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:50 AM
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Aren’t part of the shallow standards men here complain about related to income, which in this case does make a difference? If you have 3 kids and work full time, being able to afford a cleaner makes a world of difference for example. Or at least you can live in a much nicer home, or quit a shitty job without wondering how you’ll make rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:47 AM
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The principle being?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:42 AM
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Then what’s the problem with men doing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:38 AM
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Yeah that’s dating. Sifting through the shit ones until you find the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:37 AM

What exactly is a “real man” and what does he do that differs from a pseudo man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:59 PM

In the example we’re currently talking about - leaving your partner when she’s chronically or terminally ill rather than blaming who women reproduce with or raise their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:19 PM

Maybe men taking accountability rather than finding a way to blame women for all of their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:13 PM

Explains why men are significantly more likely to leave their wives when they’re sick or get disabled
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:10 PM

Not in excess they’re not, particularly when they’re coming from ultra processed foods. Also, water has 0 calories and people drink it, it’s pretty necessary I hear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:09 PM

The obesity stats indicate that plenty of people are eating food with 0 nutritional value 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:02 PM

I’m with someone pretty great :) although the fear mongering about the wall is pretty daft bc what happens when I do age? by that logic he’ll automatically trade me in for another 23 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:49 PM

In this scenario what is the woman getting out of the relationship if she’s working and also being a full time cook and maid for another person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:35 PM

So while I’m working full time, pregnant full time, I’m also expected to do all the cooking and cleaning? Lucky me!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:29 PM

Because people who are content and happy don’t make that much fuss about it, you’re only hearing from those who got unlucky
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:28 PM

You could try being with someone because you like them not because you’re trying to derive benefits from them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:26 PM

If my partner and I have children, will he be carrying the baby for 4.5 months and doing half the labour, post partum and breast feeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:24 PM

Good thing I’m under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:22 PM

What’s this got to do with fair chore distribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:20 PM
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Why do you say it’s more common for women? Maybe that only applies to the shitty women you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:21 AM
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3.5 years, the relationship before that 1 year. Been with my boyfriend now for 1 year.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:49 PM
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Just noticed that all he had to say about him as a partner (other than his sister loves him) was that he doesn’t drink or gamble like those are shining qualities. Like I said, not knocking them and am happy they found eachother as he otherwise sounds great
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:31 PM
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Truth will always out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:17 PM
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Then they’re misguided. All relationships require work but if you care about the person you don’t get bitter or apathetic about it. I put work into my relationship but because I love him, I don’t get arsey about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:24 PM
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If you consider it “work” then again, don’t be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:15 PM
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Sounds like you shouldn’t be in a relationship if making an effort for your partner makes you apathetic and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:58 PM
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It’s pretty common for men’s effort to nosedive once they’re in the relationship and comfortable. It doesn’t align with OPs point that only women trying to secure men they’re far too inferior for say this. Another example is men having a parade thrown for them if they change a nappy or they’re out with their kid even though it’s … literally their kid. I’ve seen videos of a father braiding his daughters hair and the comments were full of women singing his praises, yet a woman doing her child’s ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:45 PM
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What’s the issue then? Sounds like you’re sore she landed someone above her station when she’s also a high earner and successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:50 AM
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Someone who doesn’t cheat or gamble isn’t automatically a decent guy, that’s kind of just the bare minimum prerequisite for not being a shitty one. Nevertheless, very happy for your sister and BIL :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:39 AM
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My bf has like 200 Instagram followers be so for real 😂 idk any woman who’s turning her nose up at tall men with a full head of hair from good families
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:35 AM
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The take is usually about men already in relationships and the effort they put in. A lot of times women justify staying with a crappy boyfriend because he doesn’t cheat or abuse her, hence where the saying comes from. That said I think it’s a stupid take because there are plenty of men who will treat you well if you’re selective about dating and look for those traits. I do disagree that the men treating women badly are “above them”. I’ve seen a lot of couples where the woman is significantly bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:27 AM
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Why are you weirdly bitter about your sisters dating life? She’s obviously not ‘average’ to the men she’s attracting if they’re choosing her over other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:22 AM
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I’d say again that comes down to self esteem. From my perspective why would I try to “win” someone’s attention when there are men who’d happily give me time and attention without me having to try? Maybe I have too much pride but I’d never work for a man’s attention. There are areas of my life I like to “work for” like my career and physical fitness so I don’t seek that out in my relationships. Same way I wouldn’t chase a friend who wasn’t giving me the time of day when I have other friends who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:50 AM
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What happened with the affair partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:36 PM
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Didn’t realise it worked like that, that’s good to keep in mind. Btw - isn’t hooking up with someone who works for you illegal or at least able to make you lose your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:05 PM
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Why would divorcing her earlier save you money?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:58 PM
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Well-adjusted, secure women find “bad boys” laborious and burdensome. I know my worth and know I can do a lot better, I also have enough excitement in my life I don’t crave it from someone who’ll probably give me herpes and trust issues. Many women are wired this way as well, we’re not a rare breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:42 PM
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This is a common complaint from my single friends - a guy love bombs them and acts completely smitten but once things progress he does a 180. I have guy friends openly admit that they love the chase but they lose interest as soon as she reciprocates his energy. Luckily I’ve met someone lovely and I’m very happy now, that relationship definitely taught me red flags to look out for :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:10 PM
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When we met, in his words not mine, he was completely obsessed with me and I could do no wrong in his eyes. Endless love letters, gifts, he’d do anything I wanted. I was young and didn’t realise that this wasn’t actually very healthy or sustainable. He’s very close with his family, to the point they had poor boundaries and I was quite uncomfortable with it, his mum was always trying to convert me to her religion and he did nothing to stop her. If we married she would have made my life hell. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:29 AM
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I wouldn’t consider it failed, we were together 3.5 years, lived together for 1 and in the end we just didn’t work out. We were young when we met and both grew up a lot in those years, by the end it became clear we weren’t a good fit. It was never super toxic, no cheating I’m aware of, but towards the end I felt like I was watering a dead plant which made me sad and resentful. Even though my heart wasn’t in it I was still trying hard to make it work and by that point he’d stopped trying. Some ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:04 AM
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“War on men” looking like what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:00 AM
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Yep. Did most of the housework despite being away more (I worked in the office he was mainly WFH) and yes we split everything 50/50 and most of our dates were planned by me. Fortunately I’m with a new partner now who’s significantly better in bed and also treats me far better outside the bedroom too, so we live and we learn :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:31 PM
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Check my edit ^ It’s so funny how blindly men will vouch for men they know nothing of no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:29 PM
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Some men stop trying to be good in bed once they get comfortable, happened with my ex. He was decent for the first couple years then got lazy despite many attempts and conversations started by me to remediate it. Ended up being a big part of why I left in the end. And before you assume - I held up my end of the deal, I’ve always been in good shape and slim, made an effort with my appearance, lingerie, the works etc. he just took it for granted, as many people do when they get comfortable in a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:25 PM
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Which are what, exactly? And don’t they also apply to the husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:24 PM
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Most people are trying to shame women for leaving marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:18 PM
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Which benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:17 PM
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What if the issue is about the quality of sex rather than the frequency?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:16 PM

I think you’d have to be spectacularly stupid to get knocked up by another man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:57 PM

Can doesn’t mean will
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:56 PM

The endless benefits of exercise and having muscle mass for women are second to none. Mentally, regularly exercising has done more for me than anything else I’ve done over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:50 PM

For every handful of female influencers being annoying yes, there are millions of women worldwide who just go to the gym to workout with no fuss or drama. Most gyms don’t have female content creators in them. Like I said, I’m all for banning cameras and tripods, I hate working out feeling like I’m awkwardly in the background of someone’s video. But because most of the people in my gym are men, I’ve only ever seen men film themselves and it’s equally irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:03 AM

To exercise..? Besides I have a bf, so weird and irrelevant point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:17 AM

For every women he refers to, there are millions of women who go to the gym who don’t do any of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:07 AM

This tells me you don’t actually go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:06 AM
-2

False, I’ve found a lot of really valuable information about nutrition and form from female influencers, plenty of them are accredited and qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:24 PM
0

Exactly! I’ve seen plenty of bare nipples from men at my gym, none from women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:06 PM
2

Tbf I’ve only ever seen one woman wear an outfit like that (I’ve moved about a lot so I’ve been to 6-7 different gyms) and I remember clocking it and getting grossed out thinking of someone’s bare ass on gym equipment. Most women at my gym wear a sports bra and leggings, usually with a t shirt or long sleeve top over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:05 PM
3

What’s a “revealing outfit” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:43 PM
5

Because it’s weird and rude. Costs nothing to just not comment on someone’s appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:43 PM
6

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:39 PM
-4

Exactly - the men who rage about women in the gym online I’m very suspicious if they actually go to a gym in real life. Most women just go there in normal gym clothes, do their workout, leave. I’ve been going for about 6 years now. They act like we’re all waltzing in wearing bikinis, tripod in hand, ready to screech at any man who looks in our direction and post a video of him online. It just implies they’re chronically online and don’t actually spend much time on a gym when they bitch about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:37 PM
6

I mean they don’t usually give a ton of reasons, they’re just needlessly being spiteful in their comments
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:34 PM
9

Yet you don’t get women chiming in with unsolicited advice or comments about their body, at least not nearly to the same extent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:32 PM
2

But when any attempt to communicate is immediately labelled as nagging, what’s the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:55 PM
6

In those cases it isn’t strictly about how much the woman values the abusive man but how little she values herself. Financial abuse is also much more common than people realise and that also keeps them in that situation. Also, the most dangerous time in a woman’s life is in the six weeks after she leaves an abusive man and she is significantly more likely to be murdered. It is often safer to stay. Please educate yourself before spouting this drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:27 AM
3

So if we don’t silently accept mens bad behaviour we are automatically nagging..? But if we just leave, then we’re fickle and don’t value relationships because we didn’t try to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:24 AM
5

I believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:04 PM
13

I’m sure yoh know that pubic hair actually protects women from infections and that’s it’s arguably more hygienic to keep it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:41 PM
11

Well, what were you wearing 😂 Jk, just wondering as I’ve never heard it happen to someone more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:08 PM
10

How many times exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:41 PM
1

Being single would be so much better than dealing with all that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:12 PM
9

I’d say 14/15, but I was a really shy kid and had to force myself to be extroverted and sociable as I quickly figured I wasn’t going to make friends otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:11 PM
2

The 4B movement is hardly influential in the west, it’s just chatter on social media by a few extensors. It’s more prevalent in South Korea but if you look into it you’ll find there are very solid reasons for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:05 PM
4

Didn’t realise me having a tall bf would cause so much upset. Get a grip. I’m not out here snipping at everyone with a submissive/younger gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:59 PM
7

What happened to allowing preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:36 PM
12

MGTOW is also a thing, so you consider that to be abandoning women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:04 AM
15

But it’s not abandoning anyone if you’re single and decide to remain single because you have nobody to abandon. By your logic im abandoning short men by being a monogamous relationship with a happen who happens to be tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:34 AM
13

“Abandoning” implies some kind of obligation or duty of care to men, which there isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:04 AM
3

Any time I’ve seen a reel/tiktok of a woman sharing her experiences being abused by a partner/ex partner you don’t have to scroll far to see comments like “but what did she do” and “I want to hear his side of the story” and sure sometimes it’s just trolls and ragebait but some of them are legit and one video in particular was about a woman who was beaten to death by her partner and there were still comments like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:46 AM
15

Not wanting a partner isn’t “abandoning men”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:44 AM
3

How old is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:56 PM
5

Exactly. The guys here who are obsessed with 18 year olds I’d love to know what their plan is. Do they think they can be like Leo and swap out their girlfriend when she hits 25? Most of them here complain they can barely get a woman at all, never mind a teenage model who’ll think the sun shines out their arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:28 PM
2

Nothing really to do with my comment? I’m pointing out there’s a lot of middle ground between skinny teenager and being “fat and sloppy”. Also, false. A body that works out usually looks better than a body that doesn’t, regardless of age and gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:15 PM
2

You can be in shape without being a skinny teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:07 PM
3

Certainly not with that spirit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:02 PM
3

Don’t have to, my bf does it for me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:51 PM

I’m gna need you to log off for me and go outside for a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:47 AM
2

Sure there’s someone for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:37 AM
3

Waiting for the right type of person
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:05 AM
3

For sure but saying it’s impossible to have feelings for more than one person you sleep with is a little ridiculous and you’re limiting your options a lot, especially if you’re now well into your twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:36 PM
6

Maybe unpack that one then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:32 PM
5

You can have feelings for someone you’re sleeping with even if you have precious partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:23 PM
7

You sound deeply autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:21 PM
14

It’s bs. I’m 25 and I get more attention from much better looking men than I did when I was 18, plus I’m in a relationship with a man who’s wayyy higher value than the men I used to date. I’m in better shape now, wear nicer clothes and know how to style my features. Relax, majority of men in the real world aren’t weird about women over 25. Those who are, you don’t want anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:15 PM
3

If you’re green enough to derive your perception of relationships from pop music you have bigger issues
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:58 PM
7

I know those statements are hyperbole but a good relationship does feel like enjoying life with your best friend even though everyone is imperfect and life goes through rough patches
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:53 PM

How are you able to tell they’re entitled militant feminists from a dating profile
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:06 PM

Like I said, I don’t feel that strongly about it either way. If it was something he wanted for our sons, I’d allow it. If he wasn’t bothered either way I wouldn’t insist on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:01 PM
2

How much choice do you think they get in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:02 PM
-2

He prefers the look and cleanliness and that he can last longer 🤷🏼‍♀️ also I’m not American, being circumcised is quite unusual where I’m from
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:55 PM
1

He was actually a bit older when he had his done, like 6-7 years old because his foreskin was too tight and was causing him issues. Kids are a while in the future for us, i said im not bothered either way and happy to let him make the call.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:52 PM
-4

My bf is circumcised and he’s happy about it and would want his sons to be circumcised as well. I don’t think any women feel that way about FGM.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:39 PM
1

I don’t know what the guy looks like so how could I, check who you’re replying to 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:34 AM
1

What’s that got to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:11 AM
1

To what extent though? Is it slacking off to gain a few pounds over Christmas and therefore your partner is justified in leaving you/cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:09 AM
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On the flip side I’ve seen really gorgeous women get treated poorly by their objectively less attractive bf. Even when they do score the 9/10 they then get insecure about her leaving him and have to bring her down a peg.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:55 PM
2

Is it entitled to expect the person who made vows to be your life partner to see them through?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:37 PM
3

Idk, just curious if your standards refer to actual fitness or just appearance I know some fit women who don’t have the stereotypical “fit body”, take Iona Maher, but when I was at my thinnest with abs, I barely worked out at the time and was very unfit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:53 PM
2

What’s this high standard exactly? Sub 20% body fat or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:24 PM
8

What’s with the assumption that all party girls sleep around? I go out a lot but have never had a ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:22 PM
1

Because women usually aren’t trying to convince male virgins to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:17 PM
2

Is it really discipline to not have sex when you haven’t met anyone you’re attracted to and have a connection with? It’s usually just circumstantial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:13 PM
2

A lot of women I know are single in their 30s usually had a long term relationship that didn’t work out, she usually wanted marriage and kids and he kept shying away from the topic and this dragged out for a sizeable chunk of her 20s. Or, they’ve just genuinely had bad luck in dating when what they want is a relationship. I’m in a relationship and the way I met my bf was pure luck, not everyone has that. Most women my age (early 20s) are looking to date for something long term, they’re not fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 01:42 PM
2

Better choices such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:03 AM
9

Been there, can confirm it’s exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:20 PM
2

What if you couldn’t go back in time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:59 PM
3

Is it monkey branching if she didn’t know you while she was with her ex? That’s what I thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:56 PM
2

Gna need you to expand on your point about condoms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:54 PM
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Yah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:26 PM
58

If men could get pregnant you could buy plan B at vending machines in every shop 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:23 PM
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I think it’s a given courtesy from both parties that you don’t go into detail about your previous sex lives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:51 AM

Which problems exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:17 PM

Rather than asking her to give up part of her income so she can watch Netflix with you, find things outside of your relationship that bring you happiness and fulfilment. A relationship should be a cherry on top of a happy life, not the only thing that makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:28 AM

What would you rather she do with the time she spends working? You’re effectively asking her to deplete her financial freedom and quality of life. Idk what she does but a lot of jobs you can’t really choose to work fewer hours if that’s what the job requires. If I started clocking off at 4.30 every day I’d find myself fired before long. From what I’ve seen, don’t ever see marriage as a solution to relationship issues, it will only exacerbate them and now you have an expensive divorce on your han…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:10 AM

I’m in investment management. Every team I’ve worked in I’ve been the only woman and also the youngest, which is why I mentioned it’s a more “masculine” job which I imagine would deter a lot of men here. Fortunately my bf doesn’t mind so it’s all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:06 AM
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I personally wouldn’t date a man who’d had a ton of precious partners and I’d be sceptical of their ability to be monogamous. I’ve only slept with people I’ve been in relationships with, I prefer my partner to have the same approach. However, because I’m not a fucking weirdo, I don’t work myself into a fury over other peoples sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:30 AM

Even though the male loneliness epidemic refers to men having far fewer friends than they used to 30+ years ago, the issue is still framed as spiteful women not giving them the time of day. But if you mention the possible benefits of increasing their social circle, they go apeshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:27 AM

I don’t let these narratives make a dent on me. I know that no matter what I do I’m upsetting someone and I stopped caring long ago. I have a good job that allows me to afford a nice life for myself, this will upset some men here who think women shouldn’t be in my industry and that my job makes me unappealing as it’s a typically masculine job. If I earned less, I’d be a scrounger and a gold digger. I have a boyfriend, this upsets men who would consider him a “chad” and that I didn’t give other m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:19 AM

Sure except sometimes you start out dating someone who earns the same/less until she gets a new job or promoted and now she earns more. You’d really end a relationship of multiple years over that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:56 AM

What do you mean by taking care of yourself alongside the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:40 PM
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Then why is the loneliness epidemic primarily talked about in the context of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:26 PM

The traits that make a good, supportive partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:36 PM

Isn’t that how a lot of men rationalise not doing chores to their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:35 PM
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I think because even when women are main/sole providers, they’re still expected to uphold their roles as well. Whereas a man can just be a provider and that’s all is expected or needed of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:45 PM

Isn’t it a loss to the men who would have otherwise slept with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:33 PM

Eeek, that’s some mental gymnastics on his part right there. Out of interest what did he do for work? I think a lot of men here aren’t looking past the surface and are just thinking “why WOULDNT I want someone who can pay for gifts and trips and a nicer home?” But don’t think about the dent it can take on their ego if they allow it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:06 PM

I actually agree with you - but if the woman earns more than the man what’s the move if they can’t survive on his salary alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:51 PM

Why do you think lower frequency of sex is? I’d put it down to maybe being more tired and stressed by the new job and responsibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:33 PM

If there are kids, then it has to be at least one of you no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:32 PM

Why did he find it so funny? That’s so strange, good thing he left you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:31 PM

Interesting take. I think a lot of men would feel betrayed by their partner squirrelling away money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:14 PM

Where did I say that? Men need to focus on bringing other values and traits to a relationship outside of a paycheque, since most women don’t require being “provided” for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:51 AM

Most men I know in real life and many on this sub have said they wouldn’t want to be a stay at home dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:50 AM

The narrative is more about what do men bring to a relationship outside of a paycheque
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:48 AM

I mean in the case of one of my friends I know that they were still having sex at least once a day so I doubt that’s where their issues were but I don’t know what the case is for other couples. What’s the “minimum threshold” exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:47 AM

I don’t consider being with a man who earns less as “settling”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:35 AM
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Very strange overstep from the families to ask you about your salary or to treat you differently because of it. Well therein lies the issue - because a lot of men equate their worth to their income, they panic that if the woman outearns them, what can they bring to the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:31 AM
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“The number of female doctors gaining a licence has increased by over a third (34%) since 2018, but the figure for new male doctors has gone up by 48%. In 2015, applicants to medical courses were 63% female and 37% male.” https://www.fenews.co.uk/education/re-ucas-record-68-of-medical-related-degree-applicants-are-female/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20female%20doctors,%25%20female%20and%2037%25%20male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:29 AM
-1

Aren’t there multiple studies proving how marriage improves men’s lives and health while it depletes women’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:27 AM
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Depends. Some of my more successful friends have struggled in dating because they’ll date someone who earns less and they’re very graceful about it. But eventually, the man gets resentful about the hours she’s at work, if she’s taking work calls while with him, that she can buy herself things he can’t. It usually results in him trying to cut her down in other ways or even discouraging her from pursuing her career.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:25 AM
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It’s pretty well documented that women are outperforming men academically and more are going to university. It seems like a straightforward conclusion that we will see a rise of couples where the woman is outearning her male partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:23 AM
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Why do you think the women’s family has an issue with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:20 AM
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Slut shaming has been around since the dawn of time. Women who don’t care now aren’t going to start anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:19 AM
1

I mean if I come up to someone’s shoulder, they’re probably 6ft or above as I’m 5’7. You can also tell if someone’s in good shape or not without them stripping off? Im saying that women don’t all throw themselves at “Chads” regardless of their personality or other circumstances - not denying that good looking people have an easier time hooking up/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:47 PM
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The ones I have in mind were over 6ft, good shape and nice face which I believe is the criteria for a “Chad”. However, for the reasons stated above, I didn’t go for them because the world doesn’t adhere to your narrow perception of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:24 PM
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What makes you say that, were you one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:12 PM
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I mean I’ve turned down attractive guys for plenty of reasons - I was/am in a relationship, I don’t do ONS anyway, or I didn’t like them as a person. It’s sad and bizarre you think if a man ticks off certain boxes, any and every woman will throw herself at him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:19 AM

Like women don’t work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:59 PM

Who do you think takes longer to get ready for a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:40 PM
4

You can be perfectly empathetic without being neurotic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:35 PM
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If you want someone with no self worth and neurotic then yeah sure. If you want a healthy relationship with someone who’s self possessed and stable, this won’t get you far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:56 PM
1

I met and started dating my bf about six weeks after breaking up with my ex and a couple weeks after moving out of our flat. In my case we met randomly and I definitely wasn’t planning on dating but it just happened. As for my ex, we were together nearly 4 years but the relationship was over long before it was over. I think in our final 3 months, we had sex twice. We didn’t end on terrible terms, it had just ran its course so when I met someone new there was no “filling a void” it just so happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:25 AM

I think there’s nuance to this. I don’t think I’d be attracted to someone who was broke and literally couldn’t pay for anything. Someone earning less than me isn’t necessarily broke or struggling to pay their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:39 PM

Do you think men want a partner who can buy them expensive things, even though they can’t return the favour? I think a lot of men would eventually resent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:28 PM

Rather pessimistic take
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:26 PM

Some people have experienced relationship difficulties once the woman is earning more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:02 PM
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What should someone do if they raise something once and the issue continues? Without it becoming “nagging”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:00 PM

If a woman in a relationship just got a job where she’d now be significantly out earning her partner - should she tell him and if yes, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:55 PM

Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:38 PM

For sure - you can expect a therapist and people close to you to acknowledge your struggles but the issue lies within expecting half the population to get on board. Some people can’t/won’t acknowledge your struggle for whatever reason and you need to find a way to be okay with that instead of raging about it until it happens, because it won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:36 PM

In this particular situation - yes. It’s also a bit pathetic and unrealistic to demand half the population sympathise with you and your dating struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:24 PM

I think people are misguided into thinking they’ll feel better if someone acknowledges their pain. You can’t force everyone, much less an entire gender, to agree with you and it would have no tangible benefit if they did. Women can acknowledge dating harder for men, doesn’t mean it will make it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:12 PM
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You’re a grown man unironically using the words “beta simp”. You should start worrying about yourself instead of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:20 PM
3

Being in a relationship also doesn’t guarantee happiness, and depending on someone else to make you happy is a surefire way to become an codependent partner who will eventually burn their relationships to the ground
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:59 AM
6

Men still have autonomy over who they date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:57 AM
2

Eh not really that was more of a tongue in cheek comment. I consider him a very good looking man so to me it’s pretty straightforward. I think I classify as “Demi-sexual” but never really call myself that as it’s a bit of a silly term. I think it’s not often you meet someone you really connect with and when you do, that’s how the attraction comes about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:37 PM
6

There’s only so much you can intellectualise attraction and chemistry… I liked his face and wanted to sit on it, idk what to tell you. I’ve had objectively better looking men hit on me but had no chemistry or attraction to them. I can acknowledge when someone’s good looking but I can’t feel attraction for someone without a connection. With him, we had a good connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:01 PM
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I was attracted enough to want to sleep with him on the first date but we didn’t sleep together until our fourth. I’ve never been a “I wait until X”, I just do it when the time feels right and I feel comfortable enough around them. Never been a one night stand person so it’s pretty consistent with my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:39 PM
4

I liked his smile and his sense of humour. He barely ever smiles in pictures because he doesn’t like his teeth lol (I’ve told him many times he has good teeth and a really nice smile). He also texts like a dad, but in person he’s very outgoing and funny. Both of us have only ever dated people we met IRL because we agree apps suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:20 PM
4

I think online dating exacerbates this - I met my bf in person but I think if I saw his profile on a dating app I wouldn’t have matched with him but when we met in person we were immediately attracted on got on well. So if your only means of dating is online you probably feel like your situation is worse than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:11 AM
4

It’s actually not lmao, it’s a huge indicator you can’t deal with confrontation and have no consideration for others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:38 AM
11

Society is already lacking in the housing, education, healthcare and mitigating the environmental damage of having too many people. Those who have children are arguably just adding to that strain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:44 PM
9

How do they “use” the labour of young people? Unless they’re employing them and not paying them your comment makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:40 PM
8

Because those who are bums that don’t work are being supported by someone in their lives or the government. Childless people aren’t getting handouts from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:21 PM
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It’s referred to in some articles as the motherhood tax, kind of splitting hairs here Agreed, but as of now women can’t have it all and have to choose between their career or children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:36 PM
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Yeah, I’m making the point that women are forced to choose between their careers and having children and that we can’t “have it all”. It’s why I always put myself as “single” in job applications and take my ring off in interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:52 AM
2

Chores are different to night feeds, changing nappies, being on top of doctor/dentists appointments, being emotionally available and supportive to the children. It’s a good litmus test for sure but like I said, you don’t know until the baby’s there. By “neutral observer” you mean self reported from a third party who refers to himself as a “conservative patriarch” who actually doesn’t know how much either party contribute unless he’s living in their walls 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:41 AM
29

Look up the motherhood tax. For women, having children tanks your earning potential and career trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:36 AM
3

“Equally” by their account or the wife’s account? You can’t know how involved a man will be as a father until after you have a baby and by then it’s kind of too late. A lot of men want children but are less interested in being a parent. Because it is hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:34 AM
20

A lot of it is economic - single income households are rare these days meaning that as well as the pregnancy and caregiving burden being on the woman, she now also has to take on the financial burden. I’m lucky that my partner makes good money and we’d be on the same page about me staying home until the children were school age, because I don’t think I’d have children if I had to come back to work 6 weeks after giving birth. Kudos to those who do, I just don’t want children badly enough to subje…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:32 AM
20

Have you considered making sex appealing enough for her to actually desire it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:39 PM
7

Not what financial abuse means but feel free to educate yourself Taking precautions is not fear mongering. In the same way it’s not fear mongering to wear a seat belt, get health insurance or a prenup etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:38 PM
3

You have hands for that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:36 PM
21

My question is, if raising children is such a cakewalk that can’t be considered work then why don’t more men do it? It’s piss easy and hardly any effort after all. Women are stepping into the provider role but men haven’t caught up to matching their roles in the household and then they wonder why women don’t want marriage and children as much as they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:35 AM
14

It’s several tasks that need doing at least once a week so you’re doing at least of them every day, I never said you’re doing all of those things every single day. Men like you are determined to minimise the labour that goes into raising children then wonder why fewer and fewer women want children and now the birth rate is stagnating. If it’s not work then why aren’t men stepping into these roles themselves? As others have pointed out, many mothers work and have stepped into the provider role.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:30 AM
16

Even by the time they get to school age - you have to leave work early to collect them from school or pay to enroll them in after school clubs/activities. Then it’s making sure their homework gets done, cook them dinner, washing up after dinner, cleaning their PE kit and uniform, making sure the fridge is stocked and going grocery shopping, getting them ready for bed (this is more age dependent), after you yourself have been working your day job since 8am. Then there’s practically being a secret…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:20 AM
10

Childcare also covers a bit of each of the aforementioned professions, and it costs more than most peoples paycheque. Why do you think that because raising a child is fulfilling that it stops it from being work? Why can’t we just agree it’s both? My boss doesn’t wake me up screaming at 3am until I come to feed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:17 AM
3

Think it depends on the individual, I want children one day and to be a SAHM until they reach school age so I’d prefer to be with someone who earns enough to make that happen. Someone who doesn’t want children probably feels differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:05 AM
20

Not just an unpaid nanny. Unpaid chauffeur, cleaner, chef, nurse, teacher and so on. Except no sick days, benefits, PTO or acknowledgement as exemplified by your post. It’s incredibly fulfilling and important work, but it is still absolutely work nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:04 AM
4

In the UK, 1 in 5 women have experienced financial abuse and that’s just the reported cases. It’s actually not all that unusual. I haven’t experienced financial abuse myself but a few of my friends mothers have and I’ve seen the huge damage it can do. I could never let myself be in that situation, it’s not paranoia to protect yourself. I’m in a happy relationship and I trust he wouldn’t do that but I’d really struggle being in a dynamic where he gets final vote on every decision because ultimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:01 AM
3

True, but things have changed as more women are now entering higher education and the workforce and it’s time to consider what both people bring to the table. Particularly as the economy these days mean that single income households are hard to come by.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:56 AM
21

If it’s not “work” then nannies, babysitters and au pairs wouldn’t be paid to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:54 AM
6

I don’t think it’s fear mongering to acknowledge that financial abuse is far more common than is talked about and it’s sensible to have measures in place to make yourself less vulnerable to it. 99% of DV cases there is financial abuse involved. Unless you have a wealthy family to bail you out it’s incredibly hard to escape for obvious reasons so it’s ideal to not be in that situation in the first place. Financial abuse isn’t limited to poor men, you have very wealthy men who do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:41 AM
4

Probably better to ask a man that. From what I’ve seen, men feel emasculated or threatened by it. I’ve seen my very successful friends date men who would put them down or even discourage them from pursuing their career.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:23 AM
5

Out of interest why wouldn’t you be satisfied? Especially if she was at home raising your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:21 AM
8

Of course many men can be providers and have their wife’s best interests at heart but it’s an incredibly vulnerable position to put yourself in, and you can’t really know how he’ll be until you’re in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:18 AM
5

Fair enough. I imagine staying at home without children to look after would get boring for both parties very fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:11 AM
5

I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive. In my experience men like to feel useful and like they add something to your life, and of course everyone wants to feel desired by the person they’re with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:03 AM
3

If you two choose to have children - would you expect her to stay at home with them and be okay being the only one bringing in income?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:01 AM
2

I only like to split the bill with friends, I’d feel weird doing it with my bf. My ex was a tightwad to the point he split the bill taking me out for my birthday, and asked me to pay him back when he bought me a yoghurt from the shop. Our first date started as drinks that ended up in us going to dinner. He insisted on paying for dinner but I still bought a couple rounds of drinks and then on our second date I picked up the bill. Now we just take turns, as he earns more and lives at home if we’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:23 AM
1

Right, so those basic things aren’t “wife duties” they’re just basic adult tasks both partners should partake in. Especially if both of them are working, which is the vast majority of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:46 PM
1

Isn’t the man also lazy and incompetent if he’s not cooking and cleaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:35 PM
1

“Needs to fuck on sight” why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:27 PM

In my country abortion is available up to 24 weeks. That is not the case in many states in the US so idk what you’re on about. Do you have proof of the pill dosage being 10x higher in America? Sounds interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:41 PM

Feel free to suggest somewhere better for this. In the US I may have my reproductive rights taken off me soon lol. Also… American men :/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:16 PM

In the UK it kind of is. I live in London and almost every man who’s catcalled me and harassed me hasn’t been ethnically British. I know I’ll get downvoted to hell for this but you can’t argue with my lived experience which many other women I know share. These men come from cultures where women are treated as second class so I don’t know why we’re all in denial when they treat women here the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:52 PM

I’m not in the US so I can’t carry a gun, I can’t even legally carry pepper spray. Besides, any weapon I do carry can easily be used against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:41 AM

In the article they’re both described as Asian
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:39 AM

Sadly yes you’re welcome to look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:39 AM

There’s a case in Birmingham where a teenage girl was being raped at a train station, another man came along and she pleaded for help, the second man then raped her as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:35 AM
-1

If your belief is that women don’t bring positive qualities and that when relationships end it’s all because of her - why do you date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:11 PM
8

How is the woman having it easier if she’s being made to prove herself to a neurotic guy all the time? Can you conceptualise how exhausting that would be? It is easier for a woman to find a relationship. A quality relationship is a different ballpark though. I’ve dated both men and women and found women are generally stronger communicators, more upfront about their intentions, and more altruistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:28 PM
8

I agree it’s more about what they get from dating women than the actual woman. He gets social proof, status, alleviated loneliness, a lot of how men behave with women is about getting approval from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:55 PM
3

Those are called homosexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:52 PM
1

If it’s false feel free to correct
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:52 PM
2

How does that answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:14 PM
7

I’ve never heard of someone racist being willing to date/sleep with a POC… they’re awful ofc but at least their logic is consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:14 PM
4

What would be the point in showing love to someone who doesn’t appreciate it or believe in it? I’ll just find someone less neurotic and annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:12 AM
4

That’s objectively not true and if it was, men should be less desperate and not date women they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:19 AM
2

The resentment comes from committing to someone you don’t actually like because you couldn’t cope with being single. Where did I imply men owe women anything? If anything I’m saying to leave women alone if you don’t actually like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:15 PM
1

I’m in a relationship and have better things to do than to catfish women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:14 PM
3

Could just hold out until you actually meet someone you like, instead of if subjecting a woman to a marriage with someone only with her to ameliorate his loneliness and doesn’t actually like her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:44 PM
11

And a resentful marriage that ends in divorce is better than none at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:30 PM
13

How silly of people to seek out a partner they find interesting and funny
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:40 PM

Do they devalue men, or are we just no longer forced to marry out for financial security and social acceptance?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:07 PM

Isn’t that a good thing in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:11 PM

Until recently we literally weren’t allowed to “pull our own weight” when we couldn’t own credit cards, property or get paid the same for the same work, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:58 PM

Fertility isn’t relevant in the context of the rise of people who don’t want or can’t afford children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:57 PM

What would that look like exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:52 PM
4

And it’s also money spent on men so what a silly argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:20 AM

You can be good with women and not cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:11 PM
8

Isn’t that a little misandrist to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:42 PM
1

The issue is men who don’t want to be with a woman who earns more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:10 PM
6

Why would anyone entertain those kind of mind games? Anyone with basic self respect would hear “we’re not a great pairing”, accept it and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:01 PM
4

I mean, can’t really fight genetics and not everyone can afford surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:46 PM
1

The issue is more that as a woman, if you achieve too much you’re hindering your romantic prospects or you risk causing issues within your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:44 PM
18

Except he rejected her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:22 PM

It’s interesting that the male equivalencies made to sex always involve some kind of expensive gift
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:07 PM

Easy answer to this - if you asked her if she’s done anal before and she says yes she’s tried it and didn’t enjoy it. That’s the case for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:06 PM

Except we’re talking about an instance where a woman tries something kinky or like anal with an ex, doesn’t enjoy and doesn’t want to repeat it. It has nothing to do with desire. If you knows she doesn’t enjoy it, frankly it’s concerning you’d even want to. Oral isn’t kinky and it’s kind of a given even in vanilla sex, so it would be an issue for most people if someone wasn’t willing to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:04 PM

Regardless of what he did or didn’t do with previous partners, I wouldn’t be sexually compatible with that person so what does it matter either way? I’m not going to debate someone into going down on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:46 PM
18

I think you need to find a job because wtf is this creative writing project
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:22 PM

He’s technically both, I’m just picking from the options OP gave for the reasons stated above
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:26 AM

What incentive do I have to lie? I don’t enjoy boring men. Luckily my bf is good looking and outgoing but between the 2 options that’s what I would go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:22 AM

Option 2, assuming he’s outgoing in a fun way not an obnoxious, love-the-sound-of-his-own voice way. Looks fade over time regardless, I’d always choose someone I have fun with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:56 AM
12

Hey, sex toys aren’t people. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:56 AM

I’m sick of hearing “if you do XYZ it won’t hurt!” Ok fine, that doesn’t change the fact ✨I don’t want to✨
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:50 PM

So you don’t enjoy knowing the deep truths of your partner 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:28 PM

Why? So you can demand she do the same for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:09 PM

Not really. We have great sex and enjoy exploring those sides of eachother, I don’t need to know what he did with who before me. If he likes something or wants to try something, he’ll tell me and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:06 PM

Why? And can you answer the other points raised? I don’t talk to my bf about my sex life and what I did or didn’t do with exes, why tf would I.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:02 PM
34

THIS. I could never have sex with someone who wasn’t enthusiastically partaking. If I can tell they’re not really in the mood it snaps me out of the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:36 PM
1

Everyone has the privilege to not approach and reject whoever approaches them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:30 PM
0

So nobody should approach eachother ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:00 PM

Not really what I was on about but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:57 PM

From what I’ve talked with my friends, it varies from fairly inoffensive and you treat it like taking a shot, to absolutely fucking putrid. Diet, smoking etc plays a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:05 PM

Why do men enjoy degrading their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:04 PM

How would he know she’s done it with others? And what about instances where she tried it, didn’t enjoy it, doesn’t want to do it again. Is she now obliged to do it with every other partner to make things “fair”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:01 PM

I’ve only heard of my friends doing it when the cum tastes like actual battery acid, at which point you can’t really blame her
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:57 PM

Women are kinkier than men on the whole, although men have more of a fixation with anal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:23 PM

Why is the pain an ego boost?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:17 PM

I think there are other ways to make a man feel loved and trusted that don’t involve putting something up your arse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:17 PM

I think these days it is the norm but I’ve never known a guy to be fussy about it, once you cum you’re done either way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:11 PM

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:01 PM

The answer is porn. In conjunction with this it’s not so much about anal sex itself rather than the novelty and taboo around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:59 PM
10

I don’t think detaching sex from emotions is a sign of intelligence. In my experience people who’ve slept around a lot are the most neurotic and insecure, for those reasons alone they’re not ideal partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:43 AM
-3

What’s inherently degrading about expressing interest in a woman? Is it still degrading if she responds well and gives you her number etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:37 AM
0

Why not for women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:32 AM
-4

You think initiating is putting yourself below someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:18 AM
11

Guess I’ve only met 10% of men then lol, pretty much every guy my age I know has had a relationship and/or sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:00 PM

You mean negging?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:50 PM
8

Every man I know in his 30s is either in a relationship or has been in one in the past. Where are you seeing this is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:56 PM
7

Good thing I never said that then. I think it’s fine to be curious about eachothers past, being judgemental and interrogating is another thing though. If he wasn’t comfortable talking about it, I’d leave it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:49 PM
7

Ideally before having sex so I could manage my expectations. I’ve never slept with someone without seeing their STI results first so I guess that’s how the conversation would come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:35 PM
10

I’m allowed to have questions aren’t I? It’s his prerogative how much he wants to share
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:27 PM
16

Again, I’d have some questions bc a man in his mid 30s with zero experience is an anomaly but if I liked the guy it wouldn’t put me off. I’d certainly prefer it to a man who’d slept with a ton of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:55 PM
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Im in my 20s so I wouldn’t date a guy in that age range to begin with. I’d be fine dating a guy my own age (24) who was inexperienced. I’d have some curiosity about the why he hadn’t had sex but that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:51 PM
17

Ehh no. I don’t enjoy the flack single mothers get but not wanting to date someone with a kid is perfectly valid. I also would never date a single dad I just don’t feel the need to bitch about them either. I have no interest in looking after someone else’s kid. I’d rather enjoy my freedom and youth until it’s time to have my own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:47 PM

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:53 AM

Only dolphins and bonobos have sex for pleasure, not solely reproductive. Most sex between humans is for pleasure. So yeah, try and make sure the person you’re sleeping with is having a good time, not sure why people get so up in arms over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:45 PM

Matt Rife did exactly that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:54 PM

Take some deep breaths babe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:29 PM

I’ve known women who’ve had their labia insulted by a guy they slept with and had those guys talk about it with others. It’s not a made up scenario. Why do you think labiaplasties exist? There’s even horrifying cases of young women trying to perform them on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:06 PM

Most animals don’t fuck for fun they do it for reproductive purposes. If you’re justifying being bad in bed by comparing your performance to a rabbit, good luck with that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:04 PM

Weird, every guy I’ve been with has loved the baggy T-shirt and PJ shorts I sleep in. In the winter unless you’re paying my heating bill I will not stop wearing joggers and a hoodie to bed 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:17 AM
1

Same question I asked him! It was a different type of machine ig. My family suspect weaponised incompetence as do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:10 AM
0

This was after I showed him how to use it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:53 AM
-1

It’s funny in this case as he lived by himself for a year before we moved in together so I had higher hopes. Ah well you live and you learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:32 AM
0

I can kind of see this although I don’t agree with being in a marriage where people keep score and are petty like this. They sound very unhappy especially if she’s blasting it all over social media. But when I lived with my ex I would do both of our laundry together as I just figured if I was doing mine I may as well do his. Several months into living together he didn’t know how the washing machine worked, and whenever I went away for a weekend he would only do his own laundry, when I then start…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:32 AM
7

TIL being a morning shower person makes you low value
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:23 AM
1

That’s why I said “some” and not “all”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:43 AM
4

How does that work when men commit far more crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:37 AM
4

I’m not American… I can carry a conversation, I’m talking about dates where a guy doesn’t bother asking a single question about the person or show any interest in their lives or interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:53 PM
3

For sure, but if someone’s exclusively talking about their job (a common theme from what I’ve seen) and not creating any space or opportunity for you to contribute to the conversation that becomes a little off putting. Or if they’re only talking about things you have little knowledge/interest in and not trying to find common ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:26 PM
4

How are you supposed to highlight your strengths if the other person is constantly talking about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:26 PM
4

If I was catfished on a date or really not attracted to the person I’d politely cut it short, not talk about myself for several hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:14 PM
2

Plenty of men don’t though, I’m asking about the ones that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:03 PM
4

Fair enough. I just feel weird talking about myself or giving anecdotes unprompted, I need to feel like the other person actually gives a shit and wants to know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:02 PM
3

Some of the guys in mind were actually pretty attractive, but looks don’t make up for someone being a bad conversationalist or too self absorbed to ask any questions on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:00 PM
4

Well, my bf asked me plenty of questions on our first dates beyond “and you” while also telling me about himself. We continue to take that active interest in eachothers life and wellbeing, it’s fairly easy to identify if someone wants to get to know you regardless of how attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:36 PM
6

My guess would be that the guys are attractive enough to secure a first date, but lack the conversation skills to land a second, third etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:13 PM
0

How’s that relevant to the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:00 PM
4

I suppose as well with friends you’re not looking for signs of if they’re interested in getting to know you since they’re already established in your life, whereas with dating you’re often getting to know a completely new person and looking to see if there’s a connection/compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:59 PM
18

That’s what my bf said - the way he and his friends communicate is mainly by telling anecdotes back and forth and volunteering information. I think women typically don’t talk about stuff unless they’re explicitly asked about it which is why that communication style doesn’t carry over well into dating unless you’re dating a woman who’s super chatty and doesn’t mind that style.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:54 PM
3

Some care enough to follow up and express interest and desire to continue dating - this is where the confusion comes in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:48 PM
4

The best dates I’ve had with guys who were engaged and asked questions were typically more attractive than the guys who didn’t ask question. The other woman who replied to this explains it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:30 PM
1

I under the desire to want to make a good impression - I’m just not sure how that translates to exclusively talking about yourself for an entire date
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:27 PM
2

Did it not occur to you to ask anything about her after you told her about your time at school and college? Not asking questions is usually an indicator you’re not interested, which is likely the impression you gave her if you showed no effort to learn anything about her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:26 PM
3

So do women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:41 PM
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Whenever women claim to be lonely, men here say “no you’re not because you can hook up with a man anytime you want” which shows that their scope of loneliness is ease of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:38 PM
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There’s a difference between being lonely and merely feeling lonely. If you have friends and a partner and still feel lonely, you’re either around people who aren’t good for you or there’s something deeper going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:14 PM
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Would you be happier without your group of friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:12 PM
2

I’m aware
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:50 AM
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Expecting a girl to be head over heels with you immediately and ghosting if she’s not is a little extreme. Healthy relationships start out with mutual interest that builds into being “head over heels” with time. By all means, don’t pursue a girl that isn’t showing effort/interest but you’re eliminating a lot of options with this approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:31 PM
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Be groomed, have good fashion sense and haircut and be in good shape. Good skin and teeth go a long way. I won’t lie and pretend height doesn’t help, it does, but if you’re short you can still control what kind of shape you’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:48 AM
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Nah don’t, they get VERY upset when you mention that if they put in a fraction of the effort women put into their appearance they’d be more attractive. For some reason they also like to wildly undermine how much effort it takes to look “naturally attractive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:31 AM
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Why does the fact that attractive people have an easier time dating keep being bought up as some revolutionary statement? In other news, sun is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:58 AM

Low effort post warrants a low effort response. What are you hoping to get out of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:43 AM

I’ve had quite a few job interviews where the recruiter/interviewer has reached out to me, so already this metaphor is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:42 AM
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THIS ^ the behaviour they describe is from bougee materialistic women who are gorgeous but ofc they’re going to be high maintenance. They claim that they’re happy with someone average and homely but that’s obviously not who they’re going after if they keep having this experience. They keep demanding that we acknowledge dating is tougher for men and when we do it’s just… now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:36 AM
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How do you think it differs for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 PM
2

Me too! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:15 PM
2

Yes, I feel very fortunate for my bf :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:56 PM
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Ok, I hope things get better for you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:45 PM

I’m convinced most people in this sub have never actually been in love and loved
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:24 PM
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Aren’t a lot of men already upset about women leaving them alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:46 PM
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Nope, what will happen is their neuroses and behaviour will ruin whatever relationship they have and probably traumatise the woman involved
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:37 PM
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Being open with each other and showing you care about one another isn’t synonymous with trauma dumping
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:06 PM
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I think the question is more what do you want women to do about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:33 AM
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Spending time with friends usually doesn’t feel like “dealing with people”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:03 AM
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For your second sentence - I’m curious why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:02 AM
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Is it stingy to not want to subsidise another person? Most men here are vehemently against doing that for a woman. Is there proof of this? Again this just sounds like an extension of your rant, not a legitimate point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:21 PM
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But the manosphere doesn’t actually advocate for means to help mens issues, it complains about women not doing it for them and blames them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:47 PM

This is a good faith question fyi: how exactly does society prevent men from having social networks? I know plenty of guys who have friend groups through sport teams, work, hobbies, school, university etc. I notice a lot of guys aren’t great at maintaining friendships (like keeping uni friends after graduation) but I’m not sure what society can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:38 PM

Then maybe that’s something men should work together to improve upon
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:46 AM

You can absolutely have closeness and vulnerability with friends as well as your partner. I’m genuinely sorry if you haven’t experienced that. Some subjects I’m more comfortable talking about with my friends than my bf and vice versa, the point is I’m not dependent on just one person to open up to. My friends have been incredibly loving and supportive through difficult times and I’m always more than happy to reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:09 AM

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:56 AM
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People say that about men who claim only the top 10% of men can have sex or relationships, which is obviously untrue. Nobody in their right mind is denying that attractive men have an easier time getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:58 AM
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Financial inequality is on par with unattractive guys not getting laid as easily as hot guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:58 AM

So if a woman sleeps with you on the first date, don’t get pissy about if she’s done that with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:57 AM
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Agreed to be his gf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:39 AM

Nobody has bought up this angle yet so I’ll try: as someone who’s been the partner of someone who didn’t have a support network it puts an immense amount of pressure on you. I was the only one he really opened up to and when things weren’t working I felt incredibly guilty about wanting to leave. I also think our relationship would have been much healthier if he’d had more friends and people besides me he could be vulnerable with. It’s not fair on partners to treat them as the antidote to your lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:51 AM

Why can’t both be true? Fat women get bullied relentlessly online and often at school if they were far as kids. Most of the jokes about fat people are directed at fat women. Fat women I know irl have had men and kids come up to them and say nasty shit or shout at them across the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:03 PM

How is that anything to do with what I said? I just said that I wouldn’t care if a fat guy wasn’t interested in me, but for some reason the inverse is the greatest insult to men. In this sub, men crap on fat women constantly, that’s what I’m referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:54 PM

I think they get even more upset when the women they aren’t attracted to also aren’t attracted to them. If a fat guy didn’t want me and had his sights set on a VS Model, good for him, literally wouldn’t spare it a second thought
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:22 PM
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A date with who, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:05 PM
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My favourite move from them is when they show examples of no/natural makeup and show women wearing foundation, fake lashes, filled in eyebrows etc 😂 they look great but that look took 40 minutes be so for real
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:55 PM

They seem bizarrely offended by fat women merely existing. I’m not into fat guys but I’m not upset or angry about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:23 PM
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Arm/leg hair has no bearing on hygiene. Pubic hair actually exists to prevent the transmission of bacteria and other pathogens, arguably it’s more hygienic to keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:20 PM
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Is this the inverse of “just take a shower and get a haircut bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:14 PM
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What do you propose should be done about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:16 PM
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You… don’t see how treating a woman as a sexual object is being a jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:09 PM

Lmaoo, doesn’t take much does it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:21 PM

Because she doesn’t want him hitting on her friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:13 PM

You may not meet your person, not everyone does I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:13 PM

Keep trying your luck on apps then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:06 PM
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I’m not referring to violence, you’re the one who bought that up. Some guys just don’t take the hint no matter how many times you rebuff their advances and tell them you’re not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:20 AM
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Yeah you’ve clearly not dealt with someone who won’t take no for an answer ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:23 AM
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How exactly are you meant to prevent someone doing this if you’ve already made it clear you’re not interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:52 AM

Have you tried being likeable and pleasant to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:25 AM

Why wouldn’t it be over when a man strays?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:11 PM
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All I did was point out his manipulation as shown in the OP, like I said idk why she isn’t having sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:45 PM
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I don’t, but there are many other reasons she isn’t having sex so why jump straight to that assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:35 PM
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Which would only be made worse by ignoring them, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:42 PM
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It’s kinder to both of you to just get divorced if that’s the guaranteed outcome anyway rather than stonewalling her (which is a manipulation/control tactic)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:40 PM
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You’re not on your wife’s payroll I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:37 PM
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Sounds like a solid way to maintain a healthy and loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:36 PM
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If you’re in a relationship and you run into issues, you should work together to figure it out rather than just throwing a silent protest until you get your way. Dead bedrooms are often an indicator of deeper issues in the relationship and if those issues don’t get resolved, the intimacy won’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:36 PM
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Because like you said, ignoring will eventually lead to divorce so what are you achieving exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:34 PM
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You’re being obtuse. Ignoring your wife bc she doesn’t put out isn’t comparable to getting a divorce because you clearly don’t like her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:31 PM
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Because he’s deliberately withdrawing his attention to punish his wife for lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:28 PM
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Do you have a touch of the tism out of interest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:35 PM
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All my personal relationships are pretty great, don’t worry about it :) If a particular person is the direct cause of me being unhappy in some way, I’ll sort it out with that individual, I wouldn’t expect other people to intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:31 PM
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My problems are my own, I don’t expect anyone to do anything about them. Least of all, strangers on Reddit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:25 PM
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Okay, I empathise that men have how sexual desires. What do you expect me to actually do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:05 PM
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What does “empathy” entail exactly? Okay, I empathise that your sexual appetite is higher than mine. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:04 PM
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When a lot of men here mean by empathy for their sexual needs, what they usually mean is women being willing to have sex with him whenever they wish (however if she’s had too much sex in the past that’s bad)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:03 PM
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Yep, no bigger turn on than a man mewling about his “need” for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:45 AM
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It really depends on the couples, some issues can be solved, sometimes the relationship is already over but they’re sticking their head in the sand. In my past relationships, I lost interest in sex because I didn’t feel loved and for me sex has only been something I’ve done with people I have a connection to and love. One of my exes gained a lot of weight and blamed me for it (I didn’t gain any) constantly whinged but never did anything about it. That killed the attraction quick. Lack of sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:22 AM
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Some other chump said that men without sex are more likely to kill themselves, so that’s their angle now. “Fuck me or I’ll off myself” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:18 AM
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I think sex is a barometer for other issues within the relationship. Men here focus so much on the lack of sex itself and not WHY that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:16 AM
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https://www.simplypsychology.org/wp-content/uploads/maslow-needs3-1024x1024.jpg It’s literally the first rung of Maslows hierarchy of needs - physiological needs alongside food, water and breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:14 AM
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The dead bedroom sub has MANY women posting about their male partners, I’d say it’s a relatively even split although I haven’t spent much time on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:11 AM
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Nothing disgusting about physical desire - what’s disgusting is using it to justify your entitlement to another persons body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:10 AM

Again - where’s your source for this? BF% is subjective to everyone, a while ago after a bulk my BMI was around 24 but my BF% was 22% and I had visible abs. I prefer how I look smaller but I was perfectly healthy then and I could deadlift 115kg. And let’s be real the main issue is the obesity epidemic which is far more pressing than splitting hairs over whether or not a healthy woman could be considered overweight. A woman with a bmi of 24/25 isn’t going to be dealing with weight related health …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:50 PM

Do you have a source for this? BMI accounts for gender and height. Also, men tend to store fat around their organs (visceral depot) which has more health implications than how women store fat in the gluteal femoral region. We’re supposed to have more body fat regardless because, yk, tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:09 PM

Healthy BMI goes up to 24.9
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:51 AM
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Doesn’t stop them loudly bleating their opinion on it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:25 AM
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I work at a large investment bank. Every woman in my office wears makeup and smart clothes. Check out the article by the economic times, it’s more to do with weight but shows that a woman’s appearance has a much more direct impact on a woman’s job prospects than a man’s. The men have far more leeway in how presentable they have to be, plenty of them wear trainers and even trackies to my work sometimes. I take my makeup off at the end of each day when I shower regardless of if i work out or not. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:35 AM
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It’s expected to wear makeup, if you show up to your corporate job without makeup you come across sloppy/lazy, it is what it is. There are plenty of studies showing how women’s appearance impacts how they’re judged in jobs that have nothing to do with their looks. Besides, what exactly is the issue with going to the gym with makeup you wore all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:10 AM
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Depends - I get way more sweaty and uncomfortable doing cardio in tracksuit bottoms than leggings, plus leggings offer more mobility if you’re training legs. It’s a weird one because when I’m in the gym I don’t think I ever clock what other people are wearing because I’m focused on myself (I’m bisexual btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:51 AM
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Most women have to wear makeup for work… if she’s working out in the evening that doesn’t make any sense. Also, there really aren’t many short options for women that are knee length.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:59 AM
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But you’ll also complain that men can’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:20 PM
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I think that says more about the people you interact with or how you are with people. Most people I come across are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:15 PM
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He can’t even call us women, only “females” which is even more telling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:03 PM
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You really think you did something comparing abortion to beating up a pregnant woman 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:49 PM
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Given that broke men get laid all the time, not that crazy of a statement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:39 PM
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It’s not incorrect though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:06 AM

From an evolutionary standpoint - isn’t a guy that sleeps around a bad bet for women? If he’s getting everyone pregnant that means fewer resources for myself and the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:12 AM

You can be a manwhore if you’re desperate enough and willing to cast a very wide net. Regardless of how or why you’ve managed to sleep with that many women, it’s not an achievement. Your statement is derogatory to men, you’re saying they aren’t capable of self control or loyalty unless literally nobody wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:41 AM

Sure but you’re blending the lines between promiscuity and cheating. I’d understand the aversion to a woman with a history of cheating for that reason, but if she slept with a bunch of guys 5 years ago and now she’s pregnant with your kid in a committed, monogamous relationship/marriage, you can assume the kids most likely yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:32 AM

Then the same be said for men who sleep around a lot. I wouldn’t want a guy who’ll put his dick in anything that’s willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:20 AM
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And evidently, also you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:17 PM
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Yeah we’re talking about having friends in the first place, it’s fairly standard to not introduce your friends until things get more serious with someone. When you’re dating someone you can usually tell if they have any without meeting the friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:36 PM
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Could you clarify where either of these women created tension or drama?
/r/MensRights15/07/24 04:54 PM
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So you run up to a young girl outside her home, she was perfectly polite to you and for all you know genuinely forgot her keys - that’s an example of extreme sexual paranoia? As for the first - you were watching a girls phone on public transport and felt the need to ask her about it, which again she was civil and polite to you, a stranger. Someone is deeply neurotic here and it’s neither of them.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 04:10 PM
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Except the stat you quoted says only 15% of men report having no close friends, and 15% is far from the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:01 PM
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What is stopping men from reaching out to their friends to hang out? Or joining team sports, starting a hobby, volunteering, going to work drinks/events? As someone who moved to a city a couple years ago and had to build a new social circle, it is a LOT of effort with swings and misses but it does eventually pay off. If you’re not willing to make that effort, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:05 PM
3

What do you think the drivers are?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:01 PM
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Men created a countdown timer for Natalie Portmans, Hillary Duffs, Billie Eilishs etc 18th birthday …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:50 PM
2

Ok, why do you think women don’t want men with no friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:34 PM
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Sounds like you’d rather date one of your bros tbh… if your bros happily let you do heroin those aren’t your friends, friends aren’t yes men or enablers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:34 PM
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Absolutely WILD that men here are arguing that a social life and support network being good things is propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:05 PM
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sure but there’s a lot of overlap in the traits that go into both - do you make an effort with people, are you pleasant to be around hence people want to be around you? I know some people who got really unlucky with friends and therefore don’t have many and that’s fine, but for a lot of people who don’t have friends there’s a good reason for it and it’s also a big part of the reason they can’t get into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:01 PM
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Not really, my bf only has a couple of close friends while I have a much wider circle of different friend groups and it’s not really a factor to me. He’s maintained those friendships for years and it means I’m not his sole support network.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:55 AM
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And you don’t think that has anything to do with the decline in men’s mental health? Humans are social animals, socialisation is important even if it’s become less common
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:52 AM
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it’s telling of how someone is in a relationship if they can’t even make and maintain friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:51 AM
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Is this proven anywhere or you just going off snippets from trashy podcasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:34 AM

That’s fine, like I said just reporting my own observations. Idk how tall you are. When I referred to my tall friends I meant women, 5’7 upwards is usually considered tall for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:36 PM

Do they actually want to be with the woman they dated as a kid, or do they just not want to be single? Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:15 PM
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Love a good generalisation! Most men don’t want to marry the person they were with at school. The person you’re compatible with at 16 is often not the same person you’re compatible with at 26, and that’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:12 PM
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TIL anyone not attracted to men is “deviant” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:08 PM
1

So asexuals and some gay men also have a primal desire for masculine control?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:06 PM
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I’m 5’5 but my friend is 5’9, she gets hit on a lot by average/short guys who are into taller women, whereas I’ve always got more attention from tall men. This is purely anecdotal but my observation is that tall men seem to be into petite women whereas average/short men seem to be more into taller women, not sure why. Most of my tall friends (5’7+) are with guys around their height or shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:04 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:01 PM
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Lesbians and asexuals have left the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:01 PM

Then why do many men leave their wives for younger, more attractive women after many years of investment? You really think that guy found more in common with a 25 year old than the mother of his children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:51 PM
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Do they?
/r/MensRights12/07/24 04:19 PM

Depends what else both people bring to the table. Looks can get you in the room but it won’t keep you there unless that person actually likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:58 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think?amp People behave differently on apps than dating in real life which is why I’ve not been on a dating app in 4 years. If those women are getting matches than in the eyes of the men they’re matching with, they’re in the same league. There isn’t much to prove or disprove this as it’s just anecdotal. While egotistical people are everywhere, women on the whole struggle with more body dysmorphia, ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:38 PM

Not all women do it - there’s your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:29 PM
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Don’t men typically rate themselves higher than women in terms of attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:28 PM
4

After work I either go to the gym, run, climb with friends or do chores if you’re after an actual answer. My bf is similar to me so it all comes down to compatibility really.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 01:10 PM

What kind of discrepancies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:24 AM
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My mindset has always been that a guy who’s about to see me naked probably has an idea of what I look like and he’s obviously keen to see it so why stress? Complimenting someone goes a long way if you’re dealing with someone more insecure (plus who doesn’t like compliments)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:16 AM
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It’s definitely not bad, a guy asking tells me he cares that I enjoy myself with him which is a huge plus. If I’m sleeping with someone for the first time I wouldn’t expect them to know what I’m into because how would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:14 AM
4

Usually they gain experience in their younger years with women who are also inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:05 AM
0

You could try checking in with your partner and asking what they’re into
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:05 AM
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What do you mean exactly by “experimenting more” Apparently they did some survey and it shows that during sex, women are more anxious about their bodies while men are more anxious about their performance so the above checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:04 AM
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You really cherry picked the traits didn’t you ahaha - one is abusive, the other is a trump supporter and a single dad, the other is shorter than most women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:33 AM
0

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:36 AM
3

And the answer in this case is because they haven’t met someone who’s right for them yet. Nothing wrong with that. It’s better than being in a relationship with someone who isn’t right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:07 PM
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So people’s options are to either be forever single or date someone they don’t want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:05 PM
4

If a man is well groomed, fit etc then why would he care what obese women think of him as he’d be able to pull women within his league
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:17 PM
1

Do men who sleep around also do if for attention and self soothing trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:26 PM
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I’m not a sex worker so no, not offended, just interested in clarity. All you’ve said is that they’re lazy but that’s not really being a blemish on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:57 PM
0

How exactly are they a blemish on society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:39 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:36 PM
-1

Do women with a history of casual sexual have a clinical/transactional view and poor boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:36 PM
10

This is also a great point. For me I would expect someone who’s previously paid for sex to be entitled and inconsiderate in bed, since he’s used to getting whatever he wants in a very transactional manner. I’m not sure how anyone can have sex with someone they know doesn’t want to be there and is only doing it for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:30 PM
4

Fair enough. Nobody really needs to defend or justify any dating preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:28 PM
5

Out of interest, if he’s had sex workers but only engaged in relatively vanilla sex with them, would you still feel that way? I wouldn’t date a guy who’d seen sex workers but for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:21 PM
1

You explained the background, that’s what I’m judging
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:26 AM
0

By your own words, he hit the road
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:48 AM
1

No, because there’s no moral responsibility or duty of care to a child that doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:48 AM
3

Not even slightly relevant to the point I made
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:01 AM
1

You’re friends with a deadbeat dad who made your sister a single mum..?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:51 AM
6

The guys in OP are married and the woman is with her AP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:50 AM
1

… yeah you’re clearly a few cards short of a full deck, I said nothing about myself. I’m in a relationship and I don’t want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:08 AM
1

You do know penises are shaped in a way to pull out the semen of other men in a woman’s vagina so that his genes stand a better chance of passed on? Since it’s our instinct and we’re evolved that way, should women just fuck a bunch of different guys and see whose sperm wins the race? Or should we practice a little critical thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:07 AM
1

Because we’re not primal animals and we can think beyond our evolutionary instincts. Evidently, not everyone however.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:32 PM
5

I’m questioning why people feel so strongly about continuing their bloodline
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:07 PM
1

How do you know their friends make it look glamorous? Divorce is horrific, women aren’t going to make it appear anything else to their closest confidants. But it is a better alternative to a shitty marriage. Nobody enjoys dating, especially online dating and especially once you’re divorce age, people have way more baggage, kids etc. none of it is fun or glamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:04 PM
10

Except we’re a bit more sentient than flowers. Do you really think the world is worse off if your bloodline doesn’t continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:02 PM
6

Evidently, they’re not that happy if they’re choosing to leave. Divorce is traumatic, expensive and dating afterwards is grim. No woman would subject herself to that if she had a good husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:59 PM
11

Women in happy marriages want to stay married you absolute donut
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:47 PM
19

So you think half of divorces were in couples that were perfectly fine and dandy until one of their friends got divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:45 PM
3

I get that it comes from a place of existential anxiety. My take has always been even though I live an average life, if I can improve the lives of others around me in some way however small, that makes it feel worthwhile. Just funny how the men on this sub who bleat on about passing down their genes realllly shouldn’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:41 PM
3

Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:44 PM

Don’t be in a relationship if you desire “leverage” over someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:13 PM
7

You can still value your career without being one of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:28 AM
10

Why do people care so much about their genes dying out? I’ve always found that bizarrely narcissistic. Unless you have exceptional intelligence or something, the world will be just fine without your bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:27 AM
4

There’s still a chance of dying..?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:26 AM
17

How is it not being selfish to be a crappy partner and think you’re doing her a favour by merely staying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:58 AM

3 goats and some land
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:27 AM
14

I think unnatural hair colours are quite polarising. Less people are into but but those who are, are REALLY into it. Whereas natural hair colours don’t usually illicit that same response by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:56 PM
0

So only exceptional men deserve monogamy and commitment too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:19 AM
14

Women also can’t force themselves to enjoy a hobby just because it’s male dominated, so you’ve undermined the main takeaway of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:15 AM
31

I mean you can still try new things and see if it’s something you enjoy. It’s like you’re determined to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:35 AM
2

Someone else already did
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:55 AM
5

So all men are forced to either be with women they don’t actually want or die alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:17 PM
8

They’re the ones who proposed, no? You can’t force someone to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:50 PM
6

Doesn’t that reflect more on them to be so publicly dissatisfied with the wife they picked?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:47 PM
17

People generally don’t complain about something that works well for them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:04 PM

Where did you get this from? Being upset over losing out on a promotion, family troubles whatever is fine. Having a tantrum because your team lost the game is not fine. You can be vulnerable while not also making your partner your emotional punching bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:50 PM
1

Are we talking about physical type, compatibility etc? Because otherwise what’s being said is that most men in relationships are just with women they don’t necessarily like or are attracted to but whoever would take them which isn’t from what I’ve observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:19 PM

Most?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:18 AM
2

What exactly entails “deserving it”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:22 AM
1

1 meal can easily be $20, I didn’t realise you were counting in your own as well Besides financial love bombing is buying elaborate gifts, trips etc for someone, not buying dinner which can easily be affordable. Justify going 50/50 how you want but it’s not love bombing to pay the dinner bill ahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:15 AM
1

Is dropping $20 on a date really “financial love bombing”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:05 AM
19

Guys often say that if a woman sleeps with them too soon they assume she’s done it with a lot of other guys therefore she’s not “gf material” that’s where those women get that neuroticism from - they haven’t fabricated it from nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:14 PM

What’s has the UN said about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:38 AM

Have a look at the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:21 PM

Less women are getting married anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:17 PM

Not wanting your partner to leave you even if they’re unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:17 PM
7

Where have you seen this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:45 AM

Isn’t it also proven that gay men are known for being the least monogamous and known to turn a blind eye to cheating? Staying in a relationship doesn’t necessarily mean you’re happy, and for some people divorce is better than cheating or an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:31 PM

Approx 5 drinks, 3 if I haven’t eaten
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:27 PM

It only works on a woman naive and insecure enough to not see through those methods
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:01 AM

As someone from London can you specify what you mean by “inheriting the ghastly culture?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:06 AM
7

Lmao “women weren’t being abused since technology wasn’t being advanced enough to prove it, plus they could have just murdered their husbands if they were” be so for real
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:31 PM
6

I’m much happier living with my girlfriends than I would be with a family
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:22 PM
7

Happy women with Leo who get dumped on their 25th birthday?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:25 PM
1

Where was I looking for sympathy? I explicitly said I was fine. And for most people, a year is a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:24 PM
6

Sex without emotional connection isn’t enjoyable for me, so I stopped until I met someone I had that connection with. How exactly is it “voluntary” when my alternative was meaningless sex I wouldn’t have even liked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:23 PM
5

In my circle, yeah it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:04 AM
2

Like I said in another comment, I’ve had a year long dry run and was fine. It was a really productive year actually. Also, men here constantly telling us that sex is a purely physical outlet for them and it’s women who get attached through sex? Ergo it’s worse for a woman to cheat but that’s a different can of worms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:39 AM
1

Likewise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:51 AM
-1

I didn’t have sex for a year, I was just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:49 AM
9

If your main gripe is that you don’t get as much pussy as you’d like, you have a very privileged life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:48 AM
0

That’s why it being called Red Pill is disingenuous, because it’s not “reality” it’s just some men’s opinion. They sprinkle in some generic self help advice like having an internal locus of control, going to the gym etc and the rest is just misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:55 AM
9

You can’t demand honesty while making an entirely false equivalency…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:07 PM

🏅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:00 AM

I’m glad I don’t relate to the experience of ogling strangers and rating their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:37 AM

How does that disprove her point that it’s sad and pathetic to analyse couples to see who’s hotter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:21 AM

I’ve been hit on by hot guys while in a relationship, didn’t cheat since that’s not in my character, that’s what it’s about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:55 PM

If she’s not cheating then I don’t see the big deal. My partner doesn’t care if I go out, my friends have good morals and if I did do something they would push me to tell him, or tell him themselves. We dance, have fun and go home, he does the same with his mates, no big deal. There are certain boundaries like I don’t let men buy me drinks and I tell them straight away I’m not interested, some women entertain a guy for free drinks while having a bf at home but not do anything with the guy. Their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:48 PM
15

The “feminist lifestyle” is just about exercising choice. You can be a traditional SAHM and a feminist if that’s what you choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:32 PM

Female rape victims can be forced to carry and raise a child as well, that’s why abortion benefits both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:42 PM

Are men not taught about condoms? If you know you have fewer options and info, why wouldn’t you be vigilant about using the options you do have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:44 PM

If that were the case I don’t think men here would be bitching so much about women’s standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:30 PM

Same advice for men who don’t want to get roped into child support. Takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:26 PM
1

As a father - why would you want someone in their early 20s around your kid and not someone more mature, experienced with kids and age appropriate? Weird dynamic if your gf is closer to your kids age than to yours and a surefire way to fuck up your kids as well. In my case, I also don’t want kids at all so I don’t think a good father would subject to kids to a stepmother that doesn’t want to be around them. If the only thing you’re looking for in a partner is youth and looks, well, no wonder you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:33 PM
0

That’s fine, I still wouldn’t date one and I doubt a single dad would want to date a woman in her early 20s either, so it all works out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:50 PM
7

How does that happen when he wasn’t doing the partum
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:59 PM
11

Sure, depends what each of them want and their own personal circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:43 PM
13

No, she’s subjecting herself to sex in the name of duty you keep you happy. Coercion is a form of SA btw. And “out” where ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:11 PM
12

Except it’s your wife doing the work and duty, so what is your justification for it without resorting to ad hominem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:55 PM
3

Ok so for every single mother there’s a deadbeat father since we’re splitting hairs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:02 PM
12

Sure, but maybe if he focused on how to mitigate the disruption of the birth for the woman who actually went through it - he’d feel more involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:45 PM
6

For every single mother there’s a single father? Unless he’s a deadbeat, which is even more reason to not date the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:41 PM
12

I think if a man feels neglected and hard done by because his wife is focused on keeping his baby alive after carrying and birthing it by herself - he probably shouldn’t be a dad in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:39 PM
20

Most women don’t want to raise someone else’s kid either, I absolutely wouldn’t date a single dad but I also don’t feel the need to shit on single dads either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:36 PM
0

So because you’ve met women who want those things - this is a universal issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:56 PM
1

In what way is it true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:15 PM
14

I can’t remember verbatim but the gist is: having a daughter is putting in time and money into a woman that eventually another man will get to fuck. Was a horrid day for me to have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:21 PM
17

If it doesn’t require something residing in my body for 9 months and requiring me to take care of it for the next 18 years, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:47 PM
34

Red pill men believe raising daughters is a form of being cucked so… yeah. Let them die out, I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:43 PM
3

I earn a good amount more than the average person my age. I just don’t take a drug I don’t need to lose weight I don’t need to lose. And if I do want to lose weight I’ll just be in a calorie deficit, it’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:23 PM
5

Most women find him kinda gross but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:15 PM
9

Until the tide changes in a few years and we’re onto the next body trend. I weight train and eat well, I’m a size 4 which isn’t heroic chic skinny but it’s never stopped me from being able to get a guy I wanted. How many songs are there about a woman’s curves versus her rib cage and thigh gap? Taking a drug which has a ton of side effects that you don’t even need to fulfil a trend is honestly tragic. Even another guy replied to this post with “having a big ass”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:14 PM
1

Why are you on ozempic for weight loss if you’re not fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:05 PM
23

I don’t think it differs that much for either gender. Compatibility, good communicator, honesty, basically just treat someone how you want to be treated
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:03 PM
11

You realise there isn’t exactly a shortage of fat men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:01 PM
11

She already said it was bc he was too old for her and she was already seeing her now bf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:22 PM
1

It’s almost like women are different and want different things in men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:01 PM
4

In this subreddit people forget that most adult women are neither virgins nor have they slept with a ton of people, but that seems to be forgotten
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:57 PM

You’ve never seen a woman with a man who isn’t as attractive as her?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:50 PM

My point is that women aren’t only attracted to just 20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:46 AM

Isn’t that what men keep telling us to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:45 AM

Not really, men with options can also seek out a monogamous relationship. I’ve known very attractive men who’ve never been interested in hookups and have only wanted relationships. Again, which sort of “treatment” are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:10 AM

Yeah… like men don’t do the same for women they find attractive? It’s almost like we’re all inclined to do things we usually wouldn’t do when we’re attracted to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:03 AM

Idk her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:02 AM

Rules like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:45 AM

Women usually don’t date or sleep with men they’re not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:21 AM
3

Yep time to delete Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:17 PM
1

Why can’t you leave your family home and go NC? They sound nasty and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:03 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:55 PM
0

Sorry, how often are you coming across Nazis? The point is - I can’t control other peoples actions but I have a responsibility over my own. Same goes for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:02 PM
0

No, if someone said something like that to me I’d assume they were mentally deficient and not associate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:58 PM
1

The rage fantasies you lot come up with are something else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:54 PM

But do you not see that the entire rhetoric is pointless as you cannot force people to lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:18 PM

All obese people should lose weight but not for anything to do with dating. Ultimately, no man is forced to be with a woman he’s not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:32 AM

Nice goalpost shifting but okay. Why does that bother you? The healthy men aren’t forced to be with a fat woman, if they’re with her it’s because they’re attracted to her. No skin off my back who fancies what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:25 AM

Please - fat women receive far more vitriol than fat men do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:20 AM

Why do you assume his gf is Megan Fox? He may just be a normal looking guy with a normal looking girl - like the majority of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:53 AM

Sounds like a delightful life, enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:52 AM

Where does he call himself good looking? I know plenty of guys who aren’t “good looking” but don’t struggle with women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:43 AM

Top 10% is having a gf and living in a developed country?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:38 AM

Asian men are still the demographic that get the fewest matches on dating apps. This is all unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:36 AM

Where is this trope being seen in real life? Most women are already in relationships, basically every couple Ive seen are on the same level attractiveness wise. Of course you get a few women with insane standards and those videos get circled around social media as rage bait so men can point to it and go “Look! All women have insane standards!” I could compile a string of videos and decide that all men are misogynists only attracted to teenage virgins, there are enough videos of men saying that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:23 AM

Good thing that doesn’t happen then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:18 AM

I’m not sure what solution men here want - do they want to bring back forced marriages so they have a shot of getting laid? And do they realise that often in forced marriages, the man doesn’t pick the woman but his family would, and god forbid she may not be their perfect ideal of a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:11 AM
7

It’s so funny given that all they do is bleat that we don’t take accountability for our actions. But aggressive and threatening behaviour? Ehh, probably got pissed off by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:41 PM
2

Agreed, but people here only accept that when it’s a man who’s been abused or treated poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:31 PM
12

Just fyi their actions are their own and aren’t justified regardless of what they felt you did to “cause it”. Gross comment from that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:28 PM
3

A ONS isn’t the father of her kids and there aren’t any expectations of him to pull his weight anywhere, since it’s not his home … all she wants and expects from him is sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:52 PM
0

Well yeah, women don’t desire husbands who are letting them down and don’t contribute. Resentment and having to baby someone kills desire quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:51 PM

Isn’t it harder to find someone who wants a relationship with you than to find someone who only wants you for a night?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:41 PM

So the majority who are doing the interviews aren’t the ones then sharing and posting the content?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:51 PM

I’ve learned that if you mention personalities as a factor of attraction here, you’ll get a witch hunt after you 😂 anything BUT be a kind and enjoyable person to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:00 AM
13

They make pussy sound like Berghain 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:35 AM
3

The lengths they go to justifying saying shitty things to women because “that’s just the male experience” and then are shocked when women don’t want them, lmao. They’ll consider everything but their personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:34 AM
15

So men who are having sex within relationships also benefit from birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:30 AM

Besides the point - what’s the purpose of telling his gf, who looks nothing like Sydney that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:20 AM

The woman in the example is literally the opposite of Sydney Sweeney, the guys crush
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:17 AM
6

Men here say all the time that they don’t want to be beta bux and they want a woman to genuinely lust over them and desire them… you really don’t see how it works in inverse? Just be nice to your partners and let them think you like them, how hard is it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:17 AM
13

You think only 10% of men have sex lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:01 AM
0

Would you stay with someone after they told you you have none of their preferred physical traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:00 AM
13

It did the same for men you do realise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:38 AM
7

Yeah, my point is mainly just don’t tell the person you’re dating that you’re just “taking what you can get”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:11 AM
3

Oh yeah that kills your appetite that’s impressive managing to gain weight on it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:37 AM

I find it weird bc I regularly see couples where the woman is more attractive and very rarely the other way around. Which is fine, he’s obviously her type and I’m sure they’re happy together. I also accept that women also have more options to elevate their looks. I’m bisexual and I find myself attracted to women far more often than men, they’re just nicer to look at 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:29 AM
1

The issue is why would he feel the need to tell her in the first place. Celebrity crushes are weird once you’re not a teenager but that aside, can you not see how tactless it is to tell your gf that your celebrity crush is someone with the opposite of all your features?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:25 AM
1

Which amphetamine?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:13 AM
2

Not really, I’ve dated people who weren’t my usual type and I never bought it up bc I was obviously attracted to them regardless, and what would that achieve exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:12 AM
7

The point is more that if you have a usual type, and the woman you’re currently dating doesn’t fit that, don’t tell her. Let’s say if you were blonde and lanky and she tells you her celebrity crush is Jason Mamoa, wouldn’t feel amazing. A bit of tact goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:33 AM
1

I’m an optimist, I like to think most people are together because they actually like one another
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:20 PM
4

You lot are so weird
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:30 PM

Hush, it’s because of hypergamy 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:38 PM

The lengths they go to to justify being unlikeable are extraordinary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:57 PM

Rather misandrist to liken a man to an aggressive dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:48 PM
-4

We didn’t until fairly recently, and in many countries women still don’t. Things for women in Iran are even worse now than they were before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:46 PM
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For me, the issue isn’t so much the minority of men who commit these acts against women but the larger portion of men who minimise or deny women’s experiences and or even blame them. Or those who can’t see past their own nose and forget they’re not the only man alive, an example of this is the “not all men” hashtag trending in the UK after Sarah Everard was raped and murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:13 PM
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It’s… a hypothetical scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:55 AM
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It’s just another stupid way to perpetuate the online gender war, I haven’t paid it any mind. Neither gender has anything to gain from that discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:52 AM
3

Do you think that’s down to matching hypothesis or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:03 AM
10

I suppose the two aren’t always mutually exclusive, but I don’t agree with the premise that if women go for men with no options, that man will automatically treat them better. Look up kill the cheerleader syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:52 AM
0

I obviously don’t agree with that sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:50 AM
9

And woman want to be with a man who knows and loves them, not just with them out of lack of better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:15 AM
9

This is a really good point I hadn’t considered this angle. The whole suggestion of going for men with no options is pretty insulting - I wouldn’t want a someone to be with me because I was the only one willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:59 AM
9

Yep - kill the cheerleader syndrome is dangerous. Every woman I know who’s dated a guy who used to be fat was treated horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:57 AM
0

It’s rather pessimistic to frame women’s options as either be with a man you’re don’t desire or be forever single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:51 AM
5

Then get a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:03 PM
6

How does that make his behaviour any less reprehensible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:25 PM
6

This isn’t about cheating because of not enough sex in a relationship, this is about cheating because the woman you chose to marry you’ve decided isn’t good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:19 PM

Can you elaborate how the trauma works in this context? And no… those times were rough but I have a new job and my mum is fine now, so please don’t be weird and try to diagnose a stranger via Reddit. You can go through something tough and come out of it okay, not everything has to be trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:49 PM

I’m not arguing, I was just asking you think the pandemic has such a lasting affect on peoples dating lives. Those I know around me have pretty much continued as usual post lockdown. I lost my job and my mum almost died from covid but it didn’t impact my dating life because it’s two entirely different kettle of fish. I don’t think casual sex is good for everyone or that gen Z are wrong for not engaging in it, but on the whole we are far more antisocial than previous generations which is the main…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:45 PM

Do you think? It was 4 years ago and restrictions lifted 2-3 years ago depending on location. People say this but never really explain why it would have a knock on affect years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:36 PM

Are any of those guys trying to be in a relationship with her though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:03 PM

None of us want Red Pill guys sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:02 PM
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They usually find new ones. And no, you shouldn’t marry if you plan to leave someone/cheat as soon as they lose their job. Happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:47 PM
9

What about it? You think she’s justified in cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:41 PM
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If he’s only loyal to her on the condition she doesn’t gain any weight, he should be upfront about that and let her decide if she wants to go ahead with marrying him. People get injured, sick, become disabled. If weight gain is all it takes for you to cheat then don’t marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:37 PM
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I’m not calling men scum, I’m calling men who assault women and the men who blame women for their assault scum (and same for women who engage in those behaviours before anyone chimes in)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:27 PM
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I was just saying - men here want all the respect and adulation but we should also expect them to have the decency and self control of a feral animal… Like I said elsewhere, I’m bisexual and I have a remarkably easy time not assaulting women, even the ones who were drunk or wearing skimpy clothing. It’s very doable when you’re not scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:51 PM
8

In this case she didn’t do anything horrific she just apparently wasn’t good enough by OPs metric
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:13 PM
4

He reversed it in the context of if a man had a mail order bride… that’s not the same as a couple where apparently the man feels he can do better, despite willingly marrying the woman in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:12 PM
15

Goes with the status quo here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:59 AM
48

If he feels he can do so much better, why marry her in the first place? A high status man surely he has options. Cheating is reprehensible regardless of who does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:57 AM

Exactly - they demand respect and then reduce themselves to uncontrollable animals with no regard for women’s autonomy. I’m also bisexual and have never been tempted to grope a woman, no matter what she wore or how she looked - because I’m not a fucking creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:40 AM

The maths is the same though. Would a 20 year old rather have a 57 year old dad or 72 year old dad? My friends dad was in his 50s when she was born (her mum was in her late 30s) she’s in her mid twenties and he’s already near 80. He may never see her get married or meet her children and it really sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:19 PM

Having a kid at 37 is very different to having one in your 50s… I’d have that same energy for women trying to conceive in their 50s for sure. Which is less likely ofc but it has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:49 PM

So you’re banking on guys moving to rural areas and women following them in order to increase the rates of marriage and birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:40 PM

But women can choose whereabouts they live as well, especially if they’re single
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:27 PM

Which tweaks exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:05 PM

Didn’t claim it was the same as women’s fertility. I’ve seen men here claim they can wait until their late 40s and 50s to have children - while they ostensibly can doesn’t mean they should. Due to increase risk of birth defects and subjecting your child to losing a parent young is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:05 PM

Women can choose to not get married or have children
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:41 PM

You realise RP content only makes women more opposed to marriage and children?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:43 AM

Reminds me of the scene from The Social Network, “you’ll go through life thinking girls don’t like you because you’re a nerd, but it’s because you’re an asshole” (paraphrased) and my God it’s so, so true. A lot of smart guys especially in tech have a God complex and are insufferable (as well as often having poor hygiene) but no, they can’t get girls because they’re all intimidated by their intelligence!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:05 AM

Do they know you share their conversations on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:28 AM

Hugh Jackman could have left his wife for a younger woman who’d have an easier time conceiving if it bothered him that much. I doubt he’d have a hard time finding a willing 25 year old. The hypocrisy you mention is men who bring up the fact they’re fertile until they die but neglect to mention that sperm quality decreases a lot as you age and there’s a higher risk of genetic defects, but act like women are barren at 30. Also if you become a father in your 50s, that sucks for the kid who’d have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:17 AM

I think if you start treating dating like a part time job it’s easy to get jaded and you won’t meet someone. I wouldn’t suggest going on more than one date a week. Ignore the noise about age and don’t get married just to meet a deadline. If I married the guy I was with when I was 21 I’d be miserable. I have friends who feel like their happiness is on hold until they meet a guy and it’s not fun. They then date guys who aren’t nice to them or treat them well but to them it’s better than being sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:09 AM

You make a lot of time for this subreddit for a man with 300 female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:50 AM

Better than being 30 with a husband you hate saddled with his kids
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:42 AM

She seems just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:37 AM
8

That does sound rough, one thing I’m grateful for in being a woman is that I have an easier time making new friends. There’s that ongoing meme of “guys make 3 friends when they’re 15 and decide that’s enough socialising for a lifetime”. Unless you join a sports team as a guy, it’s harder to find an in and I do sympathise with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:32 AM
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The two aren’t mutually exclusive? It’s just pointing out that random chit chats with strangers aren’t having the social life people talk about men lacking. Those random guys aren’t people you can call when you’re down, will help you move places, hang out with on weekends etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:45 AM
4

Ok? You asked what measures were being taken to support men in education, I just gave an example. Feel free to start your own initiative if you feel that strongly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:42 AM
-1

You seem to already have the answer though, so I’m asking for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:34 AM
1

Why do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:32 AM
2

What’s social proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:31 AM
6

A study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) found that girls do a lot more homework than boys, which directly effects results. Boys were more likely to spend a greater amount of time in a virtual world playing computer games or using the internet rather than focusing on homework. Boys tend to be rowdier in class whereas girls tend to be better behaved and less negative about attending school…The disruption in the class can lead to frequent breaks in learning to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:29 AM
8

https://inthenews.co.uk/why-are-girls-continuing-to-outperform-boys-at-school/#:~:text=Many%20schools%20require%20self%2Ddiscipline,are%20more%20likely%20to%20persist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:21 AM

Because you follow up with “we’d have more opportunities to meet women” and “there’s plenty of social shit to do, it just won’t involve many women”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:15 AM
2

That part of the UK has a really high immigrant population, mainly Middle East/Pakistani people, that’s why it focuses on white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:14 AM
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“Men socialise plenty, I recently had a 30 minute meaningless talk with a guy I’ll likely never see again!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:11 AM

“scaring the fucking hoes away” I wonder why you don’t socialise around women much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:09 AM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-67779200.amp
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:05 AM

So you’re fine with women not having sex with you to see what your intentions are?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:57 AM

This is interesting - I like being single but the rare time I have a weekend without plans with friends I get bored and tetchy. I lean more extrovert, I recharge by being around people, having ADHD is also probably why I’m like this. I’m a lot better than I was at university where my housemates and I were super codependent and I wouldn’t even go to the shops alone, so there’s something ahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:02 PM
2

I was going to say - I think some men here don’t have the type of close friendships that women do: regularly checking up on one another, talking, meeting up more often, being emotionally vulnerable. So to them, friendship isn’t a big factor to them, if I only had surface level friendships I’d probably agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:44 PM

The best doesn’t mean the only. It’s fine if your partner is your best friend as long as they aren’t your only. From experience - it’s a lot of pressure knowing that you are your partners sole support unit and the only person they hang out with. It puts a ton of guilt and pressure on you if the relationship goes south and you want to leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:43 PM
1

I don’t think pursuing women puts us off - it’s if you come across like we’re the only good thing in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:13 PM
2

Aren’t you just incentivising women to hold off having sex with men for even longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:04 PM
1

I think bc they like the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:00 PM
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You point out that it’s easier for women to be sexually pursued, but when we’re constantly told that men go well below their league if it’s gets them laid - it’s easy to get jaded by the attention once you consider that the guys pursuing you just want to get their dick wet and don’t find you attractive. Being used as a fleshlight doesn’t really help loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:32 PM
1

Yeah, that’s not claiming that lack of friends is what causes men to not have GFs… read it again maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:47 PM
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