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wow you sure showed me huh? You are the definition of "failure to comprehend". lol
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:54 AM
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I'm not even going to validate your idiotic diatribe by reading it so I'm just going to point out where you're trying to morally police people: "It's called having morals, standards and values. Idiot men should try this..." [shaming] "You are your own demise." [preaching] Shut the fuck up dumb ass.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:14 AM
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Yeah I argued that these straight white women were just looking for an excuse to belch their homophobic attitudes and they all pretty much shut the fuck up. Especially when I compared them to Vladimir Puten.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:00 AM
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If you gave a fuck about men you wouldn't shame them for their choices like some "holier-than-thou" feminist. I said no one gives a fuck because no one comes on here to get lectured and proselytized by some moral superiorist. Your form of "intelligence" is just a moral high ground that you think all men should abide by; therefore, making you sound preachy which is why I said to save it for church.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:54 AM
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Save the morality check for church tradcon Nazi. No one gives a fuck.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:12 AM
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That's not true. I got this from the stats page on victims (even the victims logo has a woman standing next to a man): Men About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1 In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male. 22.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape. RAINN also has other resources for men: http://www.rainn.org/get-information/types-of-sexual-assault/male-sexual-assault https://1in6.org/ http://…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 03:49 AM
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Here's a thought: dump the head case.
/r/MensRights23/12/13 05:00 PM
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I have no opinion on the matter, just stating something that I observed.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 08:12 PM
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Because a large chunk of the MRM is composed of conservative anti-feminist types who dismiss concepts such as "gender roles" as byproducts of Marxist identity politics.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 05:55 PM
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LOL
/r/MensRights04/05/13 03:59 AM
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Jesus Christ LOL
/r/MensRights04/05/13 03:57 AM
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“Every true feminist, I believe, is deepened and matured by being also a masculinist—a person who understands the male search for equality and approval as the male experiences it. As is every masculinist deepened by being a feminist (a person who understands the female search for equality and approval as the female experiences it.)” — Warren Farrell, Why Men Are The Way They Are (1988) p. 368 This is an idea within the MHRM I fear is slowly being lost.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 03:48 AM
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Seeing all the shit you guys have to put up with from (most) modern women... if minocycline made me gay good.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 09:32 AM
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I'm working on my psychology MA, my husband is working on his sociology Ph.D We're actually thinking of conducting our own sudy, to accompany the various other studies we want to do to further the MHRM.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:37 AM
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I'm going to also attribute that to the media vilification of men, while ignoring female sexual predation, and its glorification of the most unflattering aspects of the majority within a minority. Cultural Marxists use us as disposable tools to push their agenda, but when they're done with us, we know what's going to happen. I've often told my husband that I've been so shamed by society for being a homosexual male, that even I feel uncomfortable adopting a child because of the kind of assumption…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:21 AM
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Yeah but this still doesn't address the lack of research into the phenomena, and whether or not that specific dynamic is harmless/harmful to children and that's my main concern. If CPS tends to place children in heterosexual homes, then why do we have a breadth of research into how the dynamic effects children within dual mother homes (dating back to the 80s), but absolutely none on how the dynamic affects children within dual father homes? Naturally I blame this on feminism within academia and …
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:27 AM
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I like to assume that, but I'm a pragmatic person, and there's a lot of gender dynamics going on in a dual father home. For example: what if I don't want my kid to go to public school because I don't want him to be bullied because of his parents. If I decide to home school him what will happen to his socialization skills? Will he be unable to interact with women? My spouse and I have contended that we would try to surround him with as many women as possible, but would that be enough to give them…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:18 AM
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Is it a situation that isn't visible because of the choice to focus solely on a gynocentric perspective? Because psychologists and sociologists, usually feminists, have only ever focused on lesbians and the lesbian model of a family, we have no information on gay fathers and we probably couldn't even trace back to the first households composed of a dual father unit. Is this a new or rare phenomena, or an ignored one?
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:59 AM
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They needed a separate board because the "gamer girls" couldn't get their names onto the Xbox live leaderboard Lol
/r/MensRights01/05/13 12:11 AM
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Fucking weird, I used to take minocyline when I was a kid. I'm gay so that probably didn't do much for the whole...thing... but yeah
/r/MensRights30/04/13 11:01 PM
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You see upon further reflection I've come to realize that MRA & MGTOW are actually part of the masculist ideology. We believe in male disposability and see evidence of that through history, even though plutocrats who were men were never viewed as disposable and were often the ones perpetuating male disposability, the women were just as guilty however as they had grown entitled and superficial. In many ways male disposability is our patriarchy. MGTOW's take the theory to the logical extreme and i…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 07:12 AM
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I'm saying MGTOWs over-generalize several groups of people, and when those people dissent MGTOWs silence them by using NAGALT or NAWALT to dismiss their opinions or ideas as inherently of little value, or manipulative. Even MRAs are guilty of this (NAFALT), even though when they generalize us we come back with "not all MRA's are like that". This is stupid circular reasoning. This is a typical cultural Marxist censorship ploy that stifles discourse and impedes progress.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:40 AM
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Most MGTOW's believe that gay men are brain washed by cultural Marxists to hurt men and boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm01ety2Hw Notice that youtube channel is called MGTOW data base, so I'm sure this is a perspective many MGTOW's have encountered, and probably accepted, when researching the MGTOW as an ideological frame work. MGTOW's like Barbarossa and Stardusk, prominent figures in the movement on youtube, make no bones about their contempt for women as a group. Here's a Barbarossa v…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:03 AM
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MGTOW data base considers homosexuality a brain washing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm01ety2Hw
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:55 AM
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You guys do it to feminists (NAFALT), and I've had MGTOW's do it to me (NAGALT) and seen them do it to women (NAWALT). The hypocrisy is mind boggling.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:54 AM
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MRA, MGTOW, and MHRM are all pieces of the greater ideological masculism. It's headed the way of feminism and that's most evident in the self-victimizing, post-modernist, blame obsessed, separatist MGTOWs. Warren Farrel: "“I am a men's liberationist (or "masculist") when men's liberation is defined as equal opportunity and equal responsibility for both sexes. I am a feminist when feminism favors equal opportunities and responsibilities for both sexes. I oppose both movements when either says our…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:52 AM
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I'm not policing their right to be heard like they're policing mine by throwing my argument away as inherently biased just because I'm gay. That's some bull shit logic.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 12:15 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm01ety2Hw I love how you people are now using ad hominems as valid criticism. The similarities to feminists is becoming even more and more glaring. The fact that Bernard Chapin banned me for simply asking if MGTOW's hate gays, well he'll gladly make a video though where he says they "tolerate gays" with as much seething animosity as you can imagine, he'll gladly post comments from gay men (actually a single man) praising him, but none from gay men wondering if M…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 11:21 PM
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Literally listening to one of Barbarosa's videos on youtube he says: "our generalizations of women as a whole resemble in any discernible way the generalizations that feminists have made toward men, I think on this point RockingMrE you're being dishonest and you're hiding what you must already know which is that some generalizations are accurate and others are propped up by lies and inflate statistics and dogma.." So how do we discern between what generalizations are accurate and which aren't? T…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 11:05 PM
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Wish I could but everytime I post a comment to a youtube MGTOW about whether or not they hate gay men they block me, delete it, or censor me. How feminist of them. Furthermore ad hominems? Really? I'm not telling people to stand up for me, fight for me, or anything. I just figured gay men and MGTOWs should be natural allies so getting this kind of burn from a guy, when as a gay guy I've gotten this kind of shit from straight guys before, is not only disheartening, but does speak to the larger qu…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 10:47 PM
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You know this is pretty depressing. A look through these comments shows I'm getting censored, I don't care if people call me names that's their right, but when they use my sexuality as a weapon against my view point guess what you have there? A feminist using a man's sexuality against him. What makes me really mad about this is I'm a really vocal MRA on tumblr and irl. I'm Hispanic and gay so I'm the perfect anti-feminist, but to realize that MRA and MHRM are just a front for masculism, another …
/r/MensRights29/04/13 10:13 PM
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I was using the story to raise a discussion of this being a fundamentalist tenant within the MHRM. I'm not interested in thought policing or censoring people's views, but with all the down votes and nonsense, it's obvious you guys are.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:46 PM
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I wrote that I was gay all of two times in that post you ignorant fuck. This kind of idiocy will only turn people like me against your movement, and that's sad because I actually give a fuck about the cause.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:44 PM
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As GWW would say "own your shit" and stop fagging out because I brought up that I was gay. Instead of attacking the fact that I'm gay, why don't you try to defend the idea that NAMRAALT, or at least not all MGTOWs.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:40 PM
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And radical feminists are fighting for equality among the sexes. Right.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:38 PM
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There are plenty of MGTOW's on youtube, and even the MGTOW data base, paints homosexuality as a pathology and an impairment to "true manhood". A little trip through the MGTOW forums and youtube channels shows the inherent "I'm a victim, blame all women and gays" mentality that these people tend to share.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:38 PM
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And then holding a chip on their shoulder and a victim complex that blames women and gays for all their woes. Give me a break.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:35 PM
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I guess I'll refer to this as NAMRAALT.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:35 PM
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No like this MGTOW, and many that hold this traditionalist view, only gay men are disposable, women just need to get back to their proper social role. Fuck how retarded is this whole thing?
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:34 PM
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Wow simply mentioning I'm gay invalidated my whole argument? I'm somehow "trying to shove it" in people's faces because I just am.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:33 PM
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Ironically dissent within the MHRM is treated just like dissent within feminism. Furthermore this isn't the first MGTOW that's espoused this," the world is oppressing me, blame women and gays" attitude. They do act like victims, and it's pathetic. It's the same mentality of the feminists. At its core the MHRM, or the men's movement in general, is about how women have taken advantage of the chivalry of men all through history. What's sad is I agree with some of these assertions, and even though t…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:24 PM
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"Unfortunately the dogma of the AVfM and MGTOW crowd is such that they want to dominate the narrative of the MRM, just like the first-wave radical feminists, who now dominate feminism. There is no room for compromise or pragmatism to extremists. It's an all or nothing mentality revolving around othering." That was RockingMrE's take on it, I can't help but agree.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:18 PM
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I posted a thread there asking them to confirm or deny the hatred of gay men... the resounding silence was deafening.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:14 PM
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The MHRM. The MGTOW is just the true face of the MHRM (as the radfem is the true face of feminism). Just as hypocritical, and just as poisoned with hate and self-victimization as feminism.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:13 PM
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MGTOWs hate gay men and advocate for their death (this particular one told me I was constructed by feminism to hurt men and boys, a sort of Pinocchio of cultural Marxism). That is why they are the ying to the radfem yang. At least they can agree on one thing... who to kill.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:04 PM
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Kind of like how feminists call out radfems? This whole movement is a joke. Another Marxist ideology competing for supremacy. I didn't think I could ever hate anything more than feminism...
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:57 PM
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You people are victims. You're no better than feminists.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:53 PM
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Yeah because not all men's rights activists are like that right? Where have I heard that before...
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:51 PM
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Wow the best part was all the females in the comment section eviscerating Cosmo for writing such a cynical & irresponsible article.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 08:18 AM
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I love when idiots like this speak for lgbt anti-feminists like me. Seriously fuck off, and if I want to support my straight brothers wtf do you care?
/r/MensRights29/04/13 08:13 AM
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Jezebel is Marxist propaganda. Same goes for all of Gawker's affiliates.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 07:35 PM
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Except for it's leftist propaganda and if nothing else she's a Marxist and definitely helping contribute to the problem, not helping to fix it. I doubt she would even wince before ignoring the issue and moving on.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 07:28 PM
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This literally just restored my faith in humanity. I've been hoping to meet at least one FtM that would be open to the MRA. If there's any guys in here that try to trample your emotions you will not be alone against them.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 07:47 AM
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Of course. How long could these cultural Marxists drag us along before they started throwing us under the bus too. Bunch of supremacist scum.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 04:38 AM
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I would argue the reasons we don't hear more positive stories is because there aren't that many. I guess Fl. trying to weaken/destroy alimony laws is a success. http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2013-04-18/story/bill-ending-permanent-alimony-florida-goes-governor I think it's important that any movement enrage as much as it uplifts. Anger breeds activism and if we blind our selves into somehow believing everything is okay, when it is very much not so, then we'll just become castrated sheep ma…
/r/MensRights26/04/13 09:12 PM
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So far we have gendered terminology for a man who is sick (i.e. "man cold") but we don't have such a term for a woman who is sick. So all I see is the perpetuation of another gendered stereotype i.e. men are babies. Funny how people claim men infantalize women so much, but the same is done in reverse. Maybe we need to meet at the middle and find out why this is happening.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 09:03 PM
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It's what Lenin called "the useful idiot". In the end if we can't curb the effects of cultural Marxism everyone's going to pay the price.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 09:00 PM
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Ugh that lady is a sociopath and a narcissist.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:48 PM
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We fell for the liar, feminism, who offered us social equality, but did not tell us the high cost we would pay for this perceived "equality". It was never worth it, most of us mocked the more conservative gays and lesbians, saw them as self-defeating, but we defeated ourselves worst of all. Sorry I was so defensive I'm used to getting grief on reddit from the host of parasitic feminists that hop on here to celebrate their own sociopathy.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:21 PM
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this is me, I think the gender egalitarians and MRA's are waging a pretty righteous campaign on Tumblr, and we don't have to worry about mods controlling us: http://antifeminista.tumblr.com/
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:19 PM
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what's your tumblr name?
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:11 PM
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I don't know how to take this, is this some kind of insult?
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:08 PM
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You know I'm a gay guy and this kind of..."stuff"...really pisses me off.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 07:29 AM
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my what on Earth could you be talking about? =P
/r/MensRights24/04/13 09:47 PM
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No I just delete accounts and create new ones all the time.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 08:51 PM
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Regardless of how I came to these conclusions, a cursory look around the internet, a little bit of analyzing how gendered everything is, doesn't take a genius, and you don't even have to believe the bull shit to realize it, you just have to look a little harder. Why not study this gendered and accusatory definition of rape found in the Encyclopædia Britannica: http://media.tumblr.com/695d20f0df8441ba6fb4f6fc5dc8e2a1/tumblr_inline_mliynaXvz31qz4rgp.png So yea nice ad hominem I don't really care w…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 12:47 AM
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The other side has progressed beyond one side. Saying that women are in anyway systematically disenfranchised just isn't true anymore. The system is skewed especially to their benefit. They have a few bastions left of talking points, reproductive freedom being a major one, but the rest is fabricated and inflated into biased movements, like "rape culture", that seek to do direct harm to men by perpetuating the gender gap in college attendance and allocating men to a purely proletariat role in soc…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:08 PM
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Feminism is an ideology, like a religion, it desperately clings to patriarchy theory as an inherent truth, instead of a possibility. When this happens we usually associate this kind of dogmatism with religions. It's like when Christians say they have proof of God, and they can manufacture anecdotal and even some historical proof, but that does not prove the existence of God. Feminists use this same tactic to validate their ideology, my deal is, how did everyone fall for it?
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:02 PM
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There needs to be, if anything, a backlash from within feminism about the causes and things political & mainstream feminism are fighting for and advocating (like how feminist lobbies in India made the rape law gender exclusive). If these feminists want to really help society then they would start by challenging what feminism is actually doing for equality, instead of spewing talking points like "the gender wage gap" (that doesn't exist) and complaining about their reproductive rights. No one's t…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 03:03 PM
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The liberal wing of politics is composed entirely of feminist ideologues (obama, pelosi, frank, clinton, biden, baldwin, etc. etc.) I'd like to know how we're going to wrench that party free of the feminist ideology when all that happens is more feminists are indoctrinated in colleges and go into political campaigns and areas of influence and perpetuate this cancer. The liberals are lost to the feminist cancer, the only way to level the playing field is to beat that party back, and I don't advoc…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:29 AM
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I'm gay and I'm not doing it. Fuck I'm gay and I got married in Iowa and I live in the south and I'm still not going to sacrifice my civil liberties as an American, and comprise my rights as a gay MAN just for a single issue cause like that. I think the big picture is way more important, and now that conservatives are embracing gay marriage I think I'll be fine voting for a libertarian or a republican, the issue has already made it's way into the supreme court, this isn't a political issue anymo…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:24 AM
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I argue for political fluidity, to not conform to the rigid political ideologies that don't help anyone. Liberals don't help anyone. They promote feminist ideologies, marginalize lower classes, and perpetuate the threat narrative that keeps men oppressed. I don't understand how someone can be a liberal MRA, it's like you want two things that are diametrically opposed. People hate it when they can't have their cake and eat it too and that's what this comes down to. When you want the government to…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:03 AM
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Sorry a vote for a liberal is a vote for a feminist, and a vote for a feminist is a vote against men's rights. I think that's pretty simple to understand. Obama and his cadre are all feminists, guess what that means, they do not support men's rights, they will never support men's rights, and they will continue male disposability and the threat narrative that keeps men oppressed and silenced.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:00 AM
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Feminism's corner stone tenant, patriarchy theory, is inherently prejudicial, and false. The ideology was built on a lie, and the lie perpetuates discrimination against men in the sociopolitical sphere. Feminist organizations as representative of feminism even fail other women. So no I think that being an MRA, especially a well read MRA, does tend to make one inherently anti-feminist if for no other reason than feminism always will and always has been supremacist, not egalitarian.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 11:02 PM
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Biased against feminist theocrats and bourgeois dictators? You're damn straight I'm biased. I'm biased and I want them out of politics. I want them to stop manipulating the media, distorting truth, and making everyone's lives miserable. If that's bias then yeah I'm okay with that.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 10:28 PM
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Alas totally valid... but I don't see any other practical way to stave off the huge impact feminism has had and is having on our society. Am I a bad person for thinking the only way to fix this is letting those crazy Christians tell them to fuck off, and then turning on the crazy Christians when they get out of hand? Probably. Thanks for your insight though and I'm sorry I came off so heavy handed and self-righteous.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:22 PM
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I understand that to keep the dialogue open MRAs should not affiliate themselves with a specific political group, but the liberal feminists control all the perspectives: the blogs, wikipedia, even the biased nature of our search engine results. That influence is too big at this point to go unaddressed, and most of us still look like raving lunatics. I think some political ammunition may help us stabilize our claims. What's something all MRA's can agree on? The liberal media lies about MRAs and m…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:12 PM
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It definitely has more opposition from the right, and has the least influence within libertarianism.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:10 PM
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I understand I think I came across the wrong way, you see I think that people should have shifting political ideologies depending on the usefulness of said ideology at any given time. I think political fluidity might fix a lot more problems than rigid adherence to singular political models. Rand Paul isn't opposed to same-sex marriage he thinks its a state's issue, I'm gay and married, but I live in a state that doesn't acknowledge this, but I don't fault this mentality because I don't want my m…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:08 PM
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Look I do not believe that aligning the MRM with any specific party at any given time will have long term propsects, but for the short term in order to equalize the playing field and at least create a voice, I see the right as a tool the MRM can utilize. I do not think people should ever align themselves with any one political philosophy, but for the short term, the damage done by feminism is substantive, and the only way to start repairing that damage is to start staving off the beast causing a…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:35 PM
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I don't have any long term political affiliations, I believe people should use politics as ways to address social and systemic issues, and this means never aligning with any one political idea. I'm saying for the short term, in order to stave off the beast of feminism, we're going to need to align ourselves with people we don't necessarily agree with. Feminists used democrats as a political tool to push their agenda, why isn't the MRA doing the same thing?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:34 PM
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Because feminism is the single biggest opponent to equality in western society. I don't think people should ever fully adhere to the political values of one group, but I think shifting groups and utilizing politics as a weapon against inequality is more effective than standing out in the pouring rain and screaming for equality when no one is listening.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:28 PM
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I think there's a commonality there and it can be used to fight off a common enemy. Once the playing field is leveled, won't it be a little easier for MRAs to stand up for themselves?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:16 PM
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Well then your vote doesn't really count for much does it? In the mean time the feminist beast will keep marginalizing you. I'm not right wing by default, I am communist because I think communism is the only path toward true egalitarianism, but in this society the only way to make any headway is to beat back the beast from the left using the right.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:12 PM
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I'm saying as a cursory solution, to stave back any further advancements of feminist politicians who further feminists agendas and causes and marginalize other groups of people, the best thing to do would be to go to the other side and fight them from there. At the given time we have staved back the beast, and evened the playing field, maybe then we can talk about equality. But equality will not be a relevant issue until we're able to oust feminism from the political power it holds.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:09 PM
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I think establishing a political persona within the opposing side may be a good start.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:56 PM
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I don't see how. You seek to reconstruct liberals from within the confines that their own dogmatic institutions created and reinforced. It seems like the only bastion of hope to stave off the beast of feminism is from the opposing side. Like I said once we beat back the monster, maybe then we can actually talk about equality. At this point its rampaging, and the liberal feminists will only strengthen their own resolve as time goes by. At best I think we hope that feminists will see the damage th…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:55 PM
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So wouldn't it be best to actively stave off the cancer by staving off its advancements from the left?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:42 PM
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I worry that not politicizing it, in any nation, will only allow more feminist politicians into power, and will limit the growth of the MRM into an online only phenomena. How much longer until U of T protests turn much more hostile then they were? How many more decades of this intrusive ideology can we stand before they really do become violent oppressors?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:40 PM
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If our vote is divided than our movement means nothing. Liberal MRA's will continue to vote in feminist politicians who will continue to enact restrictive gender biased legislation, and our movement will be limited to an online presence and may never reach beyond that.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:38 PM
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So what about libertarians like Rand Paul who run on the Republican ticket? Any amount of decreasing of the big state government we currently have might be a strategic way to slap back the over reaching affects of feminism within our political, social, and economic climate.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:38 PM
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The issue of feminism entrenched within our political system affects every aspect of the societal organism: the economic, the social, the schools, the military, etc. I find it hard to believe that any political opposition to it in any form, is a single issue because the issue implicates and affects so much.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:37 PM
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But where feminism has its strongest hold is within the "political left" in America. So maybe we need to stop thinking inside of the right/left binary and see what both parties are really fighting for. Because the left sure doesn't mind pushing the "hyper-conservatvie/ tribalist" feminist agenda in the political sphere, in their blogs, and on their news channels that spew gendered propaganda.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:30 PM
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I think the case could be made that if a group of people appeal to a political party in the throws of defeat, especially before the mid term elections in 2014, that the party being appealed to not only will be likely to listen, but may in fact enact legislation to help secure our votes?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:29 PM
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Do you think libertarians would do the same thing?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:27 PM
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But if we make an appeal to them, as men and women of color, of different orientations, who see the inequality being wrought by the left don't you think they'll be willing to pander to us a little, give us a little bit of voice within the senate and within congress, in order to secure our votes?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:24 PM
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All of the current left wing leaders (Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Frank, Clinton, etc.) all identify as feminists. So yes feminist ideals have become the ideals of the left, and that means that they stand diametrically opposed to any measure of equality especially where it regards men.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:23 PM
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The left won't fix gender role marginalization. The left have always been, and will always be, bourgeois slave owners. The left pushes feminist political agendas, and won't ever concern itself with the issues of the lowest rung of American citizens. Furthermore focusing on failed Republican politicians who have been admonished by the right and left doesn't create a solid argument for why the right isn't the MRM's only hope for establishing a political voice within congress, the senate, and other…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:22 PM
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We have a better chance of enacting change and promoting equality from within their ranks then we do the Liberals who exclusively appeal to feminist voters, men and women. That's why there are groups such as the Log Cabin republicans who did not and do not identify with the feminist agenda, but have always promoted equality from within the ranks. the feminists are winning, or have won, and being sprawled across a political spectrum isn't helping us, it's silencing us.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:18 PM
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So why can't MRA's do the same by appealing to the right?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:15 PM
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Why bother referring to yourself as an MRA if you're going to actively vote against men's rights. This train of logic baffles me.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:15 PM
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It's pretty simple: The left owned slaves, the right fought to end slavery, the left changes geographic positions but still institutes a form of slavery, in the form of lower class working men who have to risk their lives to make ends meet but still have to pay really high taxes and are still subject to be exploited and enslaved by wives who may divorce them and request entitlements. The dialogue has changed, but the positions haven't, the left just uses much more manipulative tactics to maintai…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:11 PM
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Someone who votes for a leftist feminist politician, such as Obama, is inherently voting against Men's rights. How is that an ally?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:03 PM
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Men's rights is a political issue, just like women's rights was, not politicizing the men's movement is a mistake. It has costed us dearly for the last 40 years, and the longer we stay out of it, the longer the feminists will have to continue to pass marginalizing and oppressive legislation. At this point it's pure foolishness not to get involved in the political process and not establish our own political persona. If we don't have politicians in government willing to fight against oppressive ge…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 03:02 PM
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That's not how feminists did it, and it isn't going to work for us. If we make an appeal to them, especially as they struggle for votes from POC and gays, I bet they'd be willing to talk.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:57 PM
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This makes no sense. You can't change what the left thinks, they're the ones perpetuating the threat narrative, they're the ones who benefit most from the enslavement of the proletariat. They're the ones who use the one-sided talking points to win elections. They're the ones who appeal to women and feminists to attain their power. They're the ones who pass and fight for the biased legislation. Just because Scandinavians prefer to be taken care of by their feminist government, and their feminists…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:56 PM
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Libertarians and Republicans are both now trying to appeal to people of color and gay voters, many Republicans have come out in favor of gay marriage, as these two parties start to open their doors, it would be foolish of us to not run into those doors and try to establish a political presence within the government to counter act the laws that the left-wing pushes on a daily basis that continually marginalize us as a group. We promise that party our vote, they fight for us, that's how it works, …
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:46 PM
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Working from the inside of the left? This is preposterous. They're the ones perpetuating the threat narrative, they use the feminist talking points and propaganda to win elections. Republicans and Libertarians tend to be far more social and gender egalitarian than left-wingers. There's no way you're going to turn the party that is enslaving you, into the party that gives a damn about you, it isn't in their best interests to pander to you when they can "appeal to women" and feminists and win the …
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:43 PM
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Conservative politicians are falling and looking for a branch to hold onto. If we appeal to them with our vote they'll likely take up our cause, and this won't just appeal to white male voters, this will appeal to gay male voters, and male POC voters as well. Feminism is already in its third wave, and the huge imbalance it has caused politically and economically can only be offset if we go ahead and start entrenching ourselves within the political system now. We already have a cadre of admitted …
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:38 PM
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While feminists may have infiltrated all areas, they started back in the 60s, and still till this day, by aligning themselves with liberal politicians. While I agree that MRA's in feminist strongholds are going to cause schisms and dissent isn't the best case for this within the political system? If we have a voice in congress that is arguing down bills like the VAWA on an egalitarian or men's rights basis then we'll have a lot stronger chance of off setting the current imbalance. The only reaso…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:33 PM
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Regardless of the stupid or laughable things they do on a daily basis the only way to offset the imbalance is to get politicians in there that will promote egalitarian and men's rights values and issues. The left keeps pushing feminist values, we see it England, Germany, France, Iceland, North America, Canada, etc. but we have no way of counter acting this degenerative influence if we don't entrench ourselves within the political system. This is a one-sided war so far, it feels like we're in the…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:26 PM
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Simple fact is that in America the rank and file of the left that currently holds office all identify as feminists (Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc.). So if you think keeping people in power who maintain the philosophy that impedes equality is in any way going to help, I'd like to know how? This is the party that furthers the threat narrative, that uses the feminist campaign banter to win elections. If it's not obvious that we're being forced to the right and toward libertarian values then you aren't…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:16 PM
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It's what strengthened feminism, explain to me how exactly entrenching our ideals in a party that we can elect to pass legislation which favors our cause would be a bad thing?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:11 PM
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Yeah in the South they're called "blue dogs" they still have them here, but it's hard to convince the modern socialist democrat to give them any power.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:10 PM
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1 million apolitical voters don't get a say in how the process is conducted, thus choosing to be apolitical makes their voices null and void. The idea that men's rights can exist in all spectrums at the same time seems a little naive to me. I mean we can scream all day at the liberals to hear our plight, but the liberals are the bourgeois in this society, and feminism is a tool they use to maintain power. Liberals in American society have in one way or another always enslaved a people, and I don…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:09 PM
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I don't know I see the havoc that feminist political values have wrought in Western Europe, especially Iceland, and then I see the declining economy in America as a direct result of feminism and left wing politics, and while I agree that right wing politics are just the authoritarian right of the spectrum, I think as an American I'm pushing for a more centrist party like the Libertarians. The reason people in America think Democrats and Republicans might seem modest, is because politically they'…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:05 PM
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So then how about rallying behind libertarians who ride on the Republican ticket, like Rand Paul?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 01:29 PM
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How about Libertarians?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 01:26 PM
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As long as America has so many feminists in office, Obama and his cabal, I'm still going to be a little paranoid though. What do you think is going to happen if we get into a war with Iran, or any other country? I would hate to see the president need to "divert" all resources to women and children under a state of emergency... who do you think is going to be occupying those FEMA camps? ... or am I still being paranoid?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 09:25 PM
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Lol I get it, you think my reasoning is fucked, that's fair, but Jesus I had everything I ever thought to be true turned upside down and hadn't slept in about a week and a half when I started having these delusions so no I don't think it's part of a deeper underlying emotional disorder, although I wouldn't doubt it, I think it's because I stayed up for two weeks reading shit on FEMA camps and feminist conspiracies.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 08:47 PM
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South America is either actively working against feminist influences, or feminist influences are years behind what they are in western Europe and America. Also Russia, China, and many parts of Asia are anti-feminist or non-feminist.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:14 PM
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Funny story actually. You see around the time I started realizing all of these things he was still very much indoctrinated. So when I became increasingly paranoid (I used to think that I had to disconnect my computer from the internet because our feminist government was watching me and recordings of my postulations would be used against me later in the feminist inquisition) and started talking about my views on feminism and its relationship with fallen societies he thought I had had a schizophre…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:11 PM
2

fucking MRA father's anthem
/r/MensRights17/04/13 03:02 PM
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I've weighed my options heavily. Because of the declining political and economic climate of western society, which I fault squarely on the massive impact of the feminist ideology, I've been considering expatriating to a non-feminist or anti-feminist country. While I'm here I'll fight the good fight, but the paranoia I now have will probably stay with me until I leave, and unfortunately follow me afterwards.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:39 PM
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No troll I literally lost like 6 ibs in two weeks and hadn't gotten a full nights sleep because I was waiting for the FEMEN to bust down my door and take me to Gitmo. I got so paranoid that at one point I believed that when you're young they give you shots that contain inactive HIV virus, and that if you ever awake to the programming that somehow activates the HIV (I'm gay so this was a thing to me). I spent all night pacing back and forth having a panic attack. Lol looking back on it now it was…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:17 PM
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The thing that has affected me most is that I can no longer listen to music or watch tv without seeing feminist programming everywhere. I'm still having a really hard time going out into public because I see it everywhere. I'm sure I'm still suffering some secondary waves of dissonance, but I'm not sure how to cope with my new found perspective and the hell that the reality all around me is.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:12 PM
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Intersectional feminism, and feminism as a social-political organism, has never addressed the issues of men (including men of color) which is why incarceration rates, murder rates, high school and college drop out rates, and suicide rates are highest amongst this group. If feminists gave a shit about anything besides themselves then the campaign slogans would be "end violence against people". I even provided tables and now you're just countering with rhetoric. It doesn't matter how you define fe…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:47 PM
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We men of color face a host of issues relating to both our race and our gender. We're more likely to be incarcerated, murdered, and drop out of school/college. If we collectively attack these injustices within all systems I think men of all colors and orientations could benefit. I think the MHRM provides a good platform, like feminism did for many women, accept we don't have this widely held notion that all women are oppressing us. Most of us understand that the bourgeois persecute the proletari…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:15 PM
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There is rape in our culture, this DOES NOT necessitate the existence of a "rape culture". Furthermore the basis of rape culture theory is that all men are possible perpetrators, but this lacks any psychological context of rape as a fetishistic or psychopathological disorder. Instead it trivializes rape, and the agony of actual rape victims, by becoming an anything goes, "hey he looked at me sexually, that's rape" mentality that seems to permeate through our culture like a cancer. Furthermore th…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:39 AM
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I'm gay... and Hispanic... and eww ICP reeeeaaally??? Your over-generalizations are duly noted though.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:49 AM
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I can't come up with much to describe vitriolic scum who get their kicks from putting people down. How's this: you must have really low self-esteem.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:40 AM
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You're a nasty, rude person enjoy your future as the resident cat lady.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:30 AM
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No... just... no to this entire statement... bias protrudes from every word used in this statement. Calling rape a gendered crime... generalizing students who go to college on sports scholarships... I mean Christ how many sweeping generalizations can you make before you realize how empty and biased your argument sounds?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:26 AM
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Furthermore you sent me a link to a study I have to pay 19$ to read, so no I can't adequately critique it because... well that's pretty self-explanatory isn't it?
/r/MensRights16/04/13 05:05 PM
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I don't have to pretend like that biased intellectual terrorism is anything more than some second-wave dinosaurs still spreading McCarthyist lies to dehumanize men and continue the feminist threat narrative. Ironically schools like Yale have come out with articles claiming that they don't experience such a "rape culture". Could it be that the privileged don't rape? Or could this be a class thing, as it always has been, and as it always will be.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 04:52 PM
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Oh 2 feminist sociologists lol I'm sure that's completely unbiased.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 12:42 PM
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A "pig" is a pejorative often used by feminists to describe men, "tranny" is a pejorative used by people (and many feminists) to describe trans people, please explain how these are different?
/r/MensRights15/04/13 12:19 PM
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Why don't you specify what you mean when you say "some college campus cultures". What "cultures"?
/r/MensRights15/04/13 12:05 PM
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One convincing way to tell that there is a threat narrative in our culture against men is the phrase "rape culture" and what it seems to imply about all college age men.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:50 PM
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God do you even know what a threat narrative is? Have you not ever ventured outside of the boundaries of your myopic world view to see the documentaries coming from western Europe?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 11:33 AM
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it's called 'patriarchy theory' it's the cornerstone of all feminist's religious tomes.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 03:48 PM
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One thing I have noticed irl is that people tend to collectively hate reddit because of r/mensrights. They usually dismiss reddit as collectively sexist and male dominated. Then they put their "this is what a feminist looks like" onesies on their babies and continue blaming "the patriarchy" for their bad choices.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 03:53 AM
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Lol don't get married. Birth rates will go down, the economy will suffer, it's all connected and when the system falls apart maybe reconstruction will bring about change.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 08:59 PM
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This wasn't an argument, she was "arguing" but certainly not making any real arguments.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 08:34 PM
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feminism does not equal women's rights.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 08:22 PM
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My fear is that the economy will collapse soon, martial law will go into effect, and when resource management strategies become an issue... guess who the first group of people headed to the FEMA camps will be? (Sorry btw this mainly applies to US MRA's, and even the ones in Canada because you guys have FEMA camps too.)
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:29 PM
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Lets shoot this down pretty quick. Indian feminist organizations lobbied to make the rape law gender exclusive, instead of gender neutral. This means that women and men who are sexually assaulted, raped, or molested by women, can't claim it as such. Weeeeelll feminists believe in equality but... this clearly isn't equal... so they lie... and feminist organizations are actually hurting women too by promoting gender exclusive legislation... seems pretty hypocritical. You see the difference between…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 01:49 PM
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" It blames a patriarchal society for creating economic and cultural inequality for men and women..." Ah the wonders of feminism, placing blame by... not placing blame? The fact is that feminist organizations aren't even interested in the rights of women. Indian feminists lobbies argued to make the rape law gender exclusive, this means that women and men who are subject to abuse from women cannot claim it as such (lets remember that most serial killers admit to being molested by a woman in youth…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 01:37 PM
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