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Outcome independence. Don't be needy.
/r/seduction21/08/20 10:49 PM
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need new friends, they're not real friends. you run into this if you have crappy friends no matter what you succeed at - money, women, etc.
/r/seduction21/08/20 10:48 PM
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no not normal
/r/seduction21/08/20 10:47 PM
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Wrong question. You don't build sexual tension by showing interest. You create it by having her chase you. You make her think she has a chance but only a chance. If you're hanging your tongue out and leaning forward and looking all eager--in other words, "showing interest"-- she will lose interest in you.
/r/seduction21/08/20 10:43 PM
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No, that's butt hurt. Go on the hike, flirt with her friends.
/r/seduction14/07/20 04:11 AM
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broh, do you even lift?
/r/seduction04/06/20 01:04 AM
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It's crap post. All he's saying is don't be sexually needy. Look, half of pickup is =====> Don't be needy. If you don't already know that, read the basics.
/r/seduction17/04/20 03:32 AM
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This is good example of don't look at women say, look at what they do. This chick is right on #1 and completely wrong on #2 and #3. She's not talking about guys she's attracted to, she's talking about a provider, someone she will "date." She will sleep with a pennyless guy who's disrespectful if he's arrogant and hot, but she won't date him. I guarantee she has had one night stands with guys like that. OP's post is crap. He's a chair jockey. It's clear he has little to no field experience. Of co…
/r/seduction17/04/20 03:23 AM
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You have a glimmer of truth there. A guy who's cool tends to be poised and confident. That's attractive. Going up to a girl and asking her for her snap is cool if you can act cool and confident. I do it all the time and women respond positively.
/r/seduction17/04/20 03:17 AM
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No, that's not right. I have sex on the first date 50% of the time.
/r/seduction07/04/20 08:07 PM
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Well, usually yes, but if they take him back to their place, I don't think that's the problem.
/r/seduction07/04/20 08:06 PM
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I think you ran into ASD and LMR. If they're letting you finger them at their place, they usually will have sex with you eventually. You have to be patient. The whole time, I'm feeling like I'm building rapport and interest. That's a problem. 30% of the time, you should be breaking rapport. 30% of the time you should be teasing them. Only 30% of the time should you be building rapport. You have to get them chasing you, not the other way around.
/r/seduction07/04/20 08:05 PM
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Good effort but good grief, this is terrible. Before you start giving advice, go and field test. You're focusing on the wrong things. Yes, women look for signals that a man is high value. That signal comes in the form of: 1) He is not needy. That is, he doesn't put her on a pedestal. He's not afraid to tease or to neg her. 3) Other women find him attractive. That's it.
/r/seduction05/04/20 12:06 AM
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Saw the cringy videos. Arg. OP is an amateur. Look at his body language. It's perfect example of what not to do. He makes short jerky movements. OP, you've got to slow your movements way down. You can't lean in like an eager puppy. You can't be watching the girl all the time to gauge her reaction. You look way too thirsty and needy, not OI at all, no self amusement at all. Folks, his skill level is going to land you 5s and 6s at best.
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:49 PM
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/r/seduction02/04/20 09:46 PM
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/r/seduction02/04/20 09:46 PM
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/r/seduction02/04/20 09:46 PM
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Almost never. Less than 1%. The most common is that the guy starts banging a lot of girls who are hotter than the friend and the friend becomes jealous.
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:44 PM
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one of the best FR I've read on this sub
/r/TheRedPill29/03/20 11:14 PM
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I think you're in the minority. I get approached by all kinds of women - blondes, brunettes, black girls, Asian chicks, Indian chicks, etc. Are you sure you're not sending subtle signals to the girls you're attracted to and they're picking up on it? Or perhaps you have a darker complexion and you're attracting brown girls? I do think girls often have a specific preference for a type of look, but I haven't noticed that girls who look a certain way have similar preferences. I have, however, notice…
/r/seduction29/03/20 12:22 AM
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I don't know if she had a BF or not, but it's clear she was using it as a shit test. The guys with really high confidence automatically think even if a girl has a BF she will leave him/cheat on him for the guy. Because for a high value guy, girls often will. I can't even count the number of girls who cheated on their BF to be with me. It's a test to see how confident and high value a guy is. She was super hot so it's a quick way for her to weed out lower value guys. As an analogy, a recruiter ca…
/r/seduction17/03/20 05:43 AM
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That's untrue. You can create attraction. DHV can work but it has to be done subtlely. Negs work though. Absolutely. So do social proof. If you're talking to a girl who's not interested and girl who's hotter than her comes up to you and hits on you 100% likelihood the first one will now be interested.
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:40 PM
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This is totally correct and OP has no idea what he's talking about. It is really really hard to tell if a girl is into you. You might get no IOI until you get her to your place and then she rips off your clothes the instant you walk through the door. The really hot girls often don't show IOIs to anyone. They have learned if they do, they never get rid of the guy so by nature the hot girls are very cautious about showing IOI. Remember the last guy standing rule. A third of the lays are because yo…
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:36 PM
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Dude, it's not their fault you're oblivious.
/r/seduction14/03/20 01:29 AM
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It gets easier after couple hundred approaches.
/r/seduction14/03/20 01:29 AM
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Christ, what a moron. The exact same thing that's hot if you're good looking makes you a creep if you're not.
/r/seduction14/03/20 01:28 AM
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#2 and #4 actually belong to a different list. It's called "how to do boring talk that dries up girls' p*ssies"
/r/seduction14/02/20 03:27 AM
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Indicator of interest. In this case, she kept smiling, making eye contact, flipping her hair, and asking questions/prolonging the conversation,
/r/seduction09/02/20 09:57 PM
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You can tell from his mindset that he does poorly with women. You can't be successful with that attitude at anything. "Dude, you don't have to work hard at your job, be cool, and be happy, and you'll get promoted."
/r/seduction06/02/20 12:43 AM
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RSD guys are good, but they do a disservice by going out dressed like that in their videos (IRL, they wear thousands of dollars of clothing).They're doing that to show how good their technique is. Like a professional boxer showing he can beat you up using only one hand. It's a marketing ploy. You want to dress your best when you do pickup. Having a good career and a good body to get chicks is just basic common sense. Yes, it's common sense, that is WRONG. I know internet geeks who are in decent …
/r/seduction06/02/20 12:39 AM
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When I was chubby, my face looked round. When I lost weight, it turned out I have killer jaws and razor sharp cheekbones. I never knew that. Girls go gaga over jawlines and cheekbones.
/r/seduction05/02/20 09:11 PM
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I agree. When discovered PUA, I was already rich, but was a chubby Asian dude who got almost no women. It was so bad that my girlfriend stopped having sex with me. I was basically supporting her, she was living in my place, eating my food, and giving me no sex. It was pathetic. After 5 years of very hard work (losing 50 lb of fat and regaining 30 lb of muscle) and a lot of practice, I am now ripped, and have women coming up to me on the street. I've gone out with runway models, had Instagram mod…
/r/seduction05/02/20 01:42 AM
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This, gentlemen, is why you look at what women do not what women say. I guarantee she friendzones guys who follows her advice so fast you'll get whiplash.
/r/seduction05/02/20 01:24 AM
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Absolutely. When I see something like that, I'm like "way to go man!"
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:45 AM
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This is true. But most girls, especially hot ones, are insecure.
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:44 AM
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LOL, PUA is a skill, just like everything else, my friend. Whether it's friendships, relationships, or pickup, you get out of it what you put into it. The problem with guys like you is that you're lazy. You don't want to do the hard work. That's why you end up with the girls you do. Moreover, PUA at its highest level is all about fulfilling your maximum potential as a human. You have to develop self respect, work out, have a fulfilling career, and become at peace with yourself. The tips and tech…
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:39 AM
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This is roughly right. Much of the IOI are unconscious but the girls can definitely fake it. Generally, a girl can fake IOIs when she's not interested, but can't suppress them if she is (especially if it's the first time she's meeting you) However.... some girls do not express IOIs at all even though they're interested. This often happens when she's super nervous and is standing there like a rock.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:34 AM
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Soooooo.... basically hooking up with girls by lying. Uncool.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:33 AM
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Of course you could have gotten her number. Look, if a girl smiles at you, approach immediately. That's an IOI. That's a warm approach. At worst you'll have a conversation. At best... well all kinds of things can happen. Headphones mean nothing. I open girls with headphones all the time. These are all excuses.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:20 AM
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Poor confidence fucks you up wayyy more than average looks, I can promise you that. Totally agree. Before I learned PUA, I was striking out left and right. Well, to be more accurate, I wasn't even going up to bat. I too was bit chubby and it's only when I brought my body fat down to 10% that women started staring. Even now, if I gain 10 lb, I no longer attract attention.
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:20 PM
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Owen Cook, one of the first PUA
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:15 PM
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I agree with this. I give it 60% chance you could have pulled her. yeah I've never heard that one before," and I said "I thought it was original," and she laughed and said "yeah for people that never get out of the house." This, along with others, was definitely a shit test. Women don't insult men unless they're interested. Anyways, this was awkward but she commented on it being hot in here She’s trying to pull you outside here. Girls will give hints like this when they want to be pulled. A lot …
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:05 PM
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She kept on looking over at me afterwards though Based on these 2 interactions, my guess is that you're good looking. You just don't realize it because your game is so weak. Keep trying and you're going to killing it. Easiest way to pass shit test is agree and amplify. "yeah for people that never get out of the house." - "how did you know? This is the first time I've left my basement in 10 years"
/r/seduction09/01/20 11:04 PM
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important note: girls>coffee. You should have just done a venue change and taken her to a different place. 18 min is a freaking long time
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:54 PM
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Hm, I don't you've understood what you've read. You shouldn't "indirectly compliment while navigating the interaction" You need to directly or indirectly neg them, not compliment them. Why the heck would you compliment them? You're the prize, not them. You should be evaluating and judging them, not the other way around. Just do this. Pick a line. Any line. "Hey, you look like you're European, are you Norwegian?" Go up and say that. After 20 approaches, you know what they're likely to say. Then t…
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:35 PM
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Some guys will, but ones who are top level PUA don't. Because they don't need to.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:54 AM
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I disagree. Junior level PUA can be like this but doesn't work very well and only works on HB7 or lower. Junior PUA is a guy with no confidence or attraction pretending to be confident and attractive. High level PUA is all about being genuine. You can't fake real confidence. If you know you can HB9, and you really don't have your ego tied up in whether the HB9 you're talking to will bang you or not, that's when you bang. Wanting to treat a girl well, and take her out on dates, that's not being g…
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:53 AM
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I don't know why this seems odd. We guys act like this all the time. I mean, you might have a preference for smart girls or blondes or whatever and all but if Kylie dm'd you wouldn't respond? She was trying to be nice to you. Instead of saying "you're hideous and fat" (or whatever), she was trying to let you down gently. The only way to counter this is... make yourself more attractive. Lift. Get confidence. Get game. Fortunately, we have 3 things going for us that puts us in a much better positi…
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:46 AM
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I think people get rejected no matter how good the game is, but you can get that down to <30% if you're very good. There are a lot of variety among the PUA techniques, because each person has their own strengths, and they attract different types of girls, and want different things. If someone is good looking, they can pace themselves faster, for example. If you're looking for SNL, you don't have to spend as much time building comfort vs if you're looking for LTR. However, there are some commonal…
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:38 AM
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No, it's being fine even if a set goes wrong.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:33 AM
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Yeah, I know it's hard.The best ways to get this kind of confidence are: 1) Just bang a lot of girls so that you no longer are so hung up on one particular girl. 2) Make yourself into a better man and build value, so that you are content with who you are and getting girls is just a bonus not a must have.
/r/seduction09/01/20 12:32 AM
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This is absolutely right. OP, your "normal" conversation is known as BoringTalk (tm). That comes AFTER you build attraction. You build attraction with disagreements and friction.
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:06 AM
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I think this is true if you already find him attractive, you're talking about comfort building stage. But do you like it if a guy who you don't find attractive or attractive yet is writing a novel? Pick up is all about who's chasing who, who's the prize, who's above and who's below in status. You can write a lot but usually that's a signal your status is lower, that you're chasing. Unless you're negging, or teasing a lot. OP is not just writing too much, he's being too wordy and needy and it's s…
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:04 AM
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Nit sure why you're getting downvoted. This is exactly right.
/r/seduction08/01/20 03:56 AM
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You have to do it exactly right. It's too risky unless you're really advanced in body language and PUA. The best rule until you get advanced it to NEVER lean in. It gives a subtle indication you care too much.
/r/seduction08/01/20 03:55 AM
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Same classes. Grew up in the same hometown. We're both into nerdy things and understand what it's like having a parent with batshit religious and political beliefs and one who treated their spousal relationship irresponsibly. and I don't care what happens Those are the key. You had outcome independence, and you exhibited vulnerability/built comfort.
/r/seduction08/01/20 03:50 AM
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I'll give you three, but opener really don't matter. It's how you hold yourself when you open. You have to have a smirk, walk up confidently, and speak confidently. 1) "Hey, you're really cute so I had to come talk to you." 2) "Well, you look like trouble." 3) "Cute shoes, but they don't match your outfit."
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:29 AM
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Lol, I remember I was at a club and picked up with HB9 Norwegian, blonde, blue eyed, almost 6' tall. She was a mid-tier model. At the end of the night, she was coming with me and the "friend" she was with (she told me later he had a GF) was physically blocking her from getting into an Uber with me. I confronted him, we started yelling, someone called the cops. he told them I was trying to kidnap his friend, and fortunately, she told the truth. If she hadn't it would have been bad... If I had to …
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:10 AM
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I agree. there’s a million variables and you really just gotta flirt with every girl you encounter until it’s just how you interact with them. Then you always have a comeback for anything she might throw at you as you’ve already heard every basic response a women could give. and You gotta run over it a thousand times in your head while your bored or in bed not wait till you see her and start thinking this is what I’m gonna say. Yup to both. I usually do cold reads - what they do, where they're f…
/r/seduction06/01/20 06:02 AM
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Great FR. Can't wait for the follow up.
/r/seduction06/01/20 05:50 AM
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And then she stuck her hand into OP's pants, saying her hands were cold... But that's not a sign, really.
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:06 AM
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True PUA isn't about being fake or pretending to be a better person. It's about becoming a better person. True PUA is about being genuine. For example, it's very hard to fake confidence, and confidence is what pulls girls. You have to become confident. As another example, most guys are nice guys (TM) when it comes to girls. That's about as fake as you can get. PUAs are genuine-they tell girls off when they deserve it, they're not afraid to neg them, because they're being genuine.
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:04 AM
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Can't stop at numbers. You have to pull immediately.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:09 PM
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I didn't neg in he first couple of months, when I started then the positive outcomes at least doubled. I agree. Push-pull also doubles success rate. I don't neg as often as I should because it can backfire with well-adjusted girls and I like well-adjusted girls. But that's a weakness in my technique.
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:08 PM
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I don't think you've tried it. Yeah, some of the techniques are outdated, but they work. Negs work. Time constraints work. I've tired them and there is a big difference in outcome. Once I was in a lounge with couple of HB7.5 girls who were giving me one word answers. I told them I had to go in 5 min to meet a friend, they instantly turned 180 degrees and opened up, and started to game me. Another time, a girl was totally ignoring me until I negged her-actually I insulted her- and she instantly t…
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:07 PM
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I'm pretty attractive, probably about 8.5. 6 ft tall, 175 lb, completely ripped. I dress well, with a flair. Some people tell me I look like Francisco Lachowski . I think I have a look that's not typical for an American--it's bit of a cosmopolitan, suave look--and I think about 20% of girls don't like the way I look at all, about 60% find me attractive, and 20% really go gaga. Here's my experience. I get a lot of looks during the day, sometimes girls will do the stunned stare where they forget t…
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:59 PM
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She'll tell you if she can't talk. Just be polite about it. I've picked up a lot of girls in that situation,
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:38 PM
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Only #3 is valid, and only if you're in a white collar environment. If you're working in a restaurant or for an airline, go crazy. #1 and #2, you should do the opposite.
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:37 PM
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I prefer day game. Night game, as you say, tolerates a lot more errors and it's often somewhat random. A girl will go home with the guy who's talking to her when the club closes--remember that buying temperature is transferable. More importantly, the very best looking girls often don't go to clubs because they're besieged. The 9s and 8s often avoid clubs unless they're party girls. The ones who look like 9s and 8s in a club usually are 7s who have makeup on. in a club of 500 people, there might …
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:36 PM
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All these guys saying they put up this shit, lol. OP, don't listen to these guys. I've seen hard to get work really really well. If you're hot enough, guys will put up with this and a LOT more. We have a saying: "Watch what a girl does, not what she says." It seems the same applies to men, lol. I'm not surprised you're having better results, because that's how men (and women) are wired. Hard to get works for both sexes.
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:25 PM
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great job dude
/r/seduction27/11/19 07:20 PM
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You can say, it's against policy to give out my number but you can give me yours.
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:23 AM
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LOL, I know, right? Crazy.
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:23 AM
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Nah, unless she reached into your pants with her hand and jerks you off, she's not interested... Go back to that movie theater and buy yourself a jumbo bag of clue.
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:22 AM
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They actually have it a lot harder. If we see a woman, we can approach. They see a guy they like, it's against social norms to approach. They have to just wait and hope. And... you do know it takes them 2 hours to get ready to go out, right? And.. they have some control over how they look, with makeup but we have much more control, we can change our SMV by a massive amount by lifting and dropping body fat. But one thing they do have is that they can whine without sounding like a bitch.
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:20 AM
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I know exactly what happened. You didn't escalate enough. She thought "aughcavan is coming to town! I'm going to get laid!" And then you failed miserably. She went away thinking, "what is this wuss of a guy? he didn't make a move on me" Now you're texting her, she's mad you didn't have sex, and she doesn't want to waste any more time with you
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:17 AM
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Yeah. I read a review of RSD on Reddit that said the sam thing. Anyone know how good Kezia Noble is?
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:01 AM
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Yeah, it's actually good to pick up on cues. Don't escalate before developing attraction and tension. Are you push pulling? negging? Doing take-aways? Your real question should be: "Still struggling with the same sticking point of 'building attraction' in certain sets.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:57 AM
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No, but I've pulled girls without saying hardly anything. Just eye contact at a party, grab her hand, and pull her into a room.
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:25 AM
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You don't have to have kino, though it helps. I've had sex with girls without any kino. But based on your comments, you're not building any attraction with these girls. Do they kino you? If you're doing it right, they should start touching you about 50% of the time.
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:18 AM
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you'll learn to sniff out the attention-seekers and pursue the ones that'll produce results. Girl squatting for 2 hours in front of a mirror? Attention seeker. Gets dopamine hits off of giving her number to guys. Thinks she's a bad bih because she passively rejects them an hour later over text. Whoa, whoa. That's a lot of bitterness. I bang those "attention seekers" all the time. You just need to be buff, masculine, and aloof. Lol. But seriously, wow would you listen to this guy when he basicall…
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:13 AM
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LOL, both texts were terrible. Look, the first was so bad the girl actually called him a nice guy in her reply. It's almost worse than not replying. See RaptorMan's analysis above. The second text should have been "lol, don't be sorry. When are you breaking up with him?"
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:08 AM
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Exactly. That's why insta-pulls are much better.
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:06 AM
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It's a bit weird. But more just weak-assed. You took a low risk approach, which doesn't exhibit a lot of confidence. Should have made it more clear you're asking her out on a date. But don't worry, you'll get better and better. Just plug away at it.
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:05 AM
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Exactly. It's clear most of the guys have barely gotten a number. I mean, OP is a beginner and it's great he got a number--that's really hard to get yourself to do when you're starting, but if you've been doing this a while, you know numbers are a dime a dozen. It's clear you know what you're doing and are speaking from experience because your experience is exactly the same as mine.
/r/seduction19/11/19 06:01 AM
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In my experience, over 50% of the girls with BF will cheat if given a chance with a higher quality guy.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:56 AM
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Works every time 5% of the time. Polite approach works 5% of the time, and usually with well-adjusted girls with no daddy issues, who are not super hot. Most girls are not well-adjusted, most girls have daddy issues though.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:55 AM
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Uh, why not? It works.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:53 AM
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You can say whatever hot garbage comes to the top of your head to spike her emotions or entertain her as long as you're not boring, overly polite, needy, etc. Absolutely. Just. Don't. Be. Boring.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:51 AM
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And... OP's approach didn't work.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:51 AM
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This goes to "watch what they do, not what they say" I have to agree with RaptorMan. Not because of what I think but because of facts. Just try the different kind of texts. The fact is that the the assertive approach works better. Sure, not on everyone, but it more often works than not. That's based on my experience, with dozens of girls. And hotter the girl, better it works. There is the world that you would like to believe exists, and the world that actually exists.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:50 AM
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Most likely, she was getting an endorphin rush, and she was attracted to OP. Then she came to here senses later after her emotional spike wore off. OP should have pulled right then and there.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:39 AM
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So many girls on this sub, I didn't realize. What brings to this neck of the woods?
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:37 AM
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Actually, game is completely different. It's all about having inner confidence and showing it.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:43 AM
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Negs. -Those earrings don't match your outfit -You're very argumentative -Nice haircut, did you cut it yourself? But there are a lot other techniques
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:43 AM
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I hook about 75% of the time. Are you going in poised, confident? Are you negging?
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:28 AM
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Of course approach her. Do it normally, like any other set.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:26 AM
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Why not? They see other girls talking to you, that only improves your SMV.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:26 AM
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Sure, why not? You laughed when you got rejected, right?
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:24 AM
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But only about 5% of men have poise and cool. It's very rare.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:18 AM
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That's because you don't have good game. Looks certainly matter, but only in the first 30 seconds. Then it's all about game.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:17 AM
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I don't shake their hand unless they initiate it. It's against etiquette to extend your hand first to a woman. Just give her strong eye contact and . smirk, that's all you need.
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:14 AM
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PUA is about making yourself into an attractive man - confident, non-needy, strong, valuable. It's a skill set, and it takes work to become a man of high value. It may not be worth the effort for you, and that's OK. I have known guys who are not fit or groomed well and not necessarily fun to be around who have no trouble getting laid. See, those guys are attractive to women because of their confidence and personality. You think women are attracted only by physical traits. You have a lot to learn…
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:13 AM
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One thing that's not talked about: when men say shit, they mean it, when women say shit, like "I could cheat" or "I'm going to divorce you" they often don't mean it. It could be a shit test, or it could be venting. Don't take what they say at face value. Look at what they do, not what they say, applies even when they say shit like that. Don't get offended. Take it in stride. IF it's just words from a woman, they're just words.
/r/askMRP12/11/19 08:16 PM
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I agree. When girls have headphones in, they are saying "don't approach me if you're unattractive or creepy" not "don't approach me." I approach girls with headphones all the time, and about 50% of the time, they open right up and about 20% the time I can at least number close. Of course, I am fairly attractive and have good game so your mileage may vary. I don't see much of a difference in how receptive they are whether they have headphones in or not. In some ways, it shows incredible confidenc…
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:21 PM
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Girls shit test guys, not the other way around. You were just getting awkward and nervous and wanted to bail. That's OK. Next time, don't end the conversation, let her end it.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:17 PM
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For sure. Most guys bail too early. NEVER bail. Grind it out, even if it gets awkward.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:16 PM
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Yeah, the chase is more fun than the sex itself. Sex with a girl you know well is often better.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:14 PM
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Good job. The first ones are the hardest. I still remember first time I asked a girl for her number. I was so nervous my hands were shaking and I handed her the phone so she could type the number in. Good thing she didn't notice.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:12 PM
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"a woman will usually forgive you for being too forward, she will never forgive you for being a pussy." Yes. 100%
/r/seduction06/11/19 12:29 AM
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it's one of the 3 best book on PUA are you talking about being vulnerable? it doesn't mean you whine like a bitch, it means you project confidence, and you're like "yeah my dad beat my ass when I was a kid and put me in the hospital and that sucked. I'm still not over it and have a lot to prove because of that, but so what? I don't care what you think about that."
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:38 PM
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It's not hard to do if you have game and you lower your standards.
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:20 PM
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Don't wait too long. These things have a window of opportunity before they go stale.
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:04 PM
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You are way below the level you need to be before you can show vulnerability. Manson's point is that when you're so self confident that you don't care if people see your weakness then you're showing true strength. First, you have to become more comfortable with yourself.
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:03 PM
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Models is one of the top 2-3 books. Blueprint is the other one.
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:00 PM
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Well, sex is likely, but not guaranteed. Don't be like all overeager. Just. Play. It. Cool. Assume she wants to, and make her work for it.
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:59 PM
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I agree. I prefer going out solo, most wingmen aren't aggressive enough for me. I will have to drag them into sets. I sometimes go overboard on the drinking, but I agree it's best keep sober. I also agree with talking to a lot of people. Make if your goal to 1) Have fun 2) Meet interesting people 3) Get laid in that order.
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:56 PM
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No one can get anyone he want. A better way to say this would be that no one is out of your league - there is some non-zero chance you can get HB10 no matter how terrible you are, but that chance can be improved with PUA. And remember that different girls have very different tastes in men. Frankly, I don't think PUA can raise your SMV much below what your potential is to begin with. It eliminates bad habits that are holding you back. So a guy who's a 7 who can only get 5s because he's a retard c…
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:51 PM
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The guy you talked to is using outdated version of game. PUA started off as scripts and routines, trying to parrot what "naturals" did. It's evolved into a much richer, more natural discipline, with fairly deep theoretical underpinnings now. There are couple of reasons why guys do poorly with women, which I've talked about in the past, but boils down to couple of things. If I had to point to the most important reason, it's that most guys put girls above them, on a pedestal. This is the case espe…
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:30 PM
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I've had conversions from hard no's. For example, I'd be at a bar at open a girl. She shuts me down hard. Open her few minutes later. Shut down. Open her 3 more times, about 5 minutes apart, and she finally hooks and things go well from there. I find that guys re-open 2-3 times max. You don't stand our until you've opened at least 5 times. AT 5th time, you're displaying a lot of confidence. Of course, you have to do it politely. Or open a girl and her friend early in the night. Get shut down har…
/r/seduction23/10/19 12:39 AM
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Hm, you're more advanced than I thought. You're absolutely right that how you carry yourself is important. I looked up the Selena/Lebouf video, and the way Lebouf carries himself and talks, that is exactly what women are looking for. I should have said 'attractive' not 'physically attractive,' to make it clear how you carry yourself does affect your attractiveness. But most guys can't do that. I also agree women tend to have a wide range of tastes. So there are guys who look attractive to some w…
/r/seduction17/10/19 07:07 PM
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This is basic PUA. Warm approaches work well for guys who are physically attractive, with girls who are at similar or lower SMV. There is nothing wrong with it, but it's very inefficient. The biggest drawback is that you will never pick up a girl who is substantially more attractive than yourself. If you're an 8 or 9, then this isn't a problem. But if you're a 6, then.... good luck. The biggest advantage is that it doesn't really require balls. It's one thing to open an HB7 girl who is staring a…
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:51 AM
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Don't be autistic. Of course she likes you. How many hints does she need to drop? "Oh, and she put her hands down my pants but I don't know if that's because her hands were cold."
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:45 AM
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It depends on how good your game is. Guys with no game, it will be "always" they decided when they first saw you. Guys with OK game, it will be "sometimes." Guys with great game, it will be "rarely."
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:42 AM
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It's just an idiom, it comes from spinning plates. There is nothing wrong with it. Kind of like how people say they're going to grab a bite or grab some shut eye. Idioms.
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:40 AM
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Guys AFCs chase, pursue, court girls. Guys AFCs provide for girls, fails to make her feel special and protected. Girls chase, pursue Chads. Chads do not provide for girls, but instead makes her feel special and protected. Providing for a girl is the opposite or making her feel special and protected and certainly the opposite of creating attraction.
/r/seduction12/10/19 01:11 AM
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I know you're trying to help. This, gentlemen, is the perfect example of "watch what they do, not what they say." There are only 2-3 ways to generate attraction. Be good looking. This alone will rarely be enough, but sometimes. I've had girls grab me by the hand in clubs without saying a word and drag me off to hook up, but that is not very common. Competition and social proof. A girl sees other girls chasing or responding to you. Challenge. She sees that you're not chasing her, and she starts c…
/r/seduction12/10/19 12:56 AM
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Of course you should pursue her. When a girl denies you a kiss, it's not a "no." It's "not yet."
/r/seduction11/10/19 11:00 PM
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And stop just going for the phone number, which in reality is just an excuse for you to feel like you accomplished something and then you leave the interaction. Exactly
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:26 PM
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They're not going to set up a second date. You're the man, not them. If you can't get a second date, you didn't spend enough time building comfort. You only built attraction, they've had sex with you, and they've been validated.
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:24 PM
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text "Emily, sorry, I'm running late 30 min." "Oops sorry, wrong Emily,"
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:22 PM
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This is 100% wrong. And nonsensical. How does attraction exist in the first place? Yup, you create it. It can be your looks, but more commonly, it's how you carry yourself and how you act.
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:20 PM
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You choked. Why the F were you texting back and forth? You arranged a date and time, don't give her validation. When you told you she was tired, that was a shit test. She was testing you to see if you are strong or weak. If she didn't want to have sex, she would have just stopped responding to your texts.
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:18 PM
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This is 100% wrong. Girls want to chase guys, they want a challenge. Last thing they want is a guy that chases her.
/r/seduction11/10/19 10:12 PM
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You didn't move fast enough. Women will get frustrated and lose interest if you take too long, and more importantly, the fact that you weren't more aggressive makes her decide you're timid, which lowers her attraction to you. This is why if you see a girl smiling or staring at you, you have about 3 sec to approach her. Also why if a girl brushes up against you accidentally on purpose, you have to open her as soon as possible. Too slow = timid = weak = unattractive
/r/seduction08/10/19 05:55 PM
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LOL. You don't have to jacked but.... there are no fat PUAs. OK, I exaggerate, but very very few good ones, and none that are obese. Being jacked and well dressed helps a ton in daygame though.
/r/seduction07/10/19 06:17 PM
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Christ, grow some, like the other guy said. Open with, hey are you all sisters? Give the mom a spike with that, and then you can open direct - I thought you were really cute, so wanted to say hi.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:56 PM
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He was too much of a wuss to ask you for your number
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:52 PM
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I think part of it must be that they have low standards. I could easily sleep with 20+ women per year if I were willing to sleep with 6s. Even the PUA you see on youtube, you can tell the girls they're picking up are typically 6s.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:48 PM
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Yes you're bailing too early. You should have re-approached the first girl. And you should have definitely talked more to the girl in the cocktail bar. Keep plugging away at it.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:45 PM
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Girls are used to having 100% control over their dating life. Whoa whoa whoa. No. That's a terrible mindset. And wrong. Girls have far less control over their dating life than guys. Most girls don't feel comfortable approaching guys, and there is social approbation against that,5so they have to wait for guys. You should feel very sorry for them. Of the few girls who do approach me, either directly or indirectly, I reject 90% of them. More importantly, I don't approach 95% of girls I see because …
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:37 PM
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It often has nothing to do with you, but sometimes it does.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:29 PM
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You should ping her right away before the forgets you. And 100K is not that many. As the posters above say, act like she's just a normal girl. Before we can give you good advice, we need more info. Why did you exchange Instagrams instead of numbers? How long did you talk to her? Did she suggest you exchange Instagram or you? By the end was she chasing you or were you chasing her? Who do you have in common?
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:28 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa. That's way too try-hard.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:24 PM
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What does it usually look like when an "average frustrated chump" hits on a girl? You come here often? I like your dress/hair/shoes. What do you do? That's a cool job. Where are you from? How's you day? Is there a good place around her to eat/dance/hang out? Do you have a BF? Oh, that's too bad. What does it look like when you are a PUA? That dress is cool, I like it when a girl doesn't care about what's trendy or not. Those are great shoes, my mom has the same pair. You're an accountant? You sh…
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:21 PM
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Of course it can be done. I do it all the time. All. The. Time. I would say I can flip about 50% of these cases. Once, I said "hi" and she immediately frowned said, "sorry, not interested." I turned that around within 3 minutes. There are 2 types of rejections. They are cold to you from the start. This is the typical situation. This can be because you're not her type, she has a BF, or has a headache, etc. but often, it's because she has her bitch shield up. It's basically a shit test. You can br…
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:10 PM
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First, congrats on doing so many approaches. And direct ones at that. That is actually one of the hardest parts. The good thing is that it's almost certain you can improve by improving your technique. Based on the little info you've provided, I have this advice: Getting girls to follow up after they give you number is a much higher level game than pulling right then and there. You have to start by trying to pull for an instadate right then and there. Once you get to about 20% instadate success r…
/r/seduction07/10/19 04:25 PM
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LOL
/r/seduction07/10/19 04:17 PM
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Yeah, this is a very possible answer. If you didn't talk to her very long, and she didn't give you any IOI, then you're coming on too strong. See my previous posts. Did she laugh at any of your jokes? Smile at you? Any IOIs?
/r/seduction03/10/19 05:53 PM
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This is really a function of how attractive you are. If you're not attractive, it's creepy. If you're attractive, it's not.
/r/seduction03/10/19 05:50 PM
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First, great job on 100 approaches. That is hard to do. 5 min is not enough to establish a connection, usually. I mean, if you're very attractive, that can happen. I've occasionally had to get a number in like 60 sec because I had to go somewhere and once in a while I can get a follow up from that, but it's rare. As a rule of thumb, the number of minutes you spend with the girl will correlate with the likelihood she will come out for a follow up date. If you're spending 5 min on an interaction, …
/r/seduction01/10/19 06:44 PM
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move on
/r/seduction01/10/19 06:30 PM
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Great FR. Definitely correct on not approaching too early - you can read the body language and see if they're done "catching up." Also important to ID the alpha girl and neutralize her. She can shut you down and neutralize you otherwise. Looks alone is never enough, but I disagree that it's insurmountable if you're not good looking. Your mother hen didn't say "he isn''t good looking" she said "he's not her type." E.g., different girls have different tastes, so one girl's ugly isn't another girl'…
/r/seduction01/10/19 05:36 PM
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Sexual tension comes from friction. Push/pull. Break rapport then rebuild it. Compliment then neg. Tease. Playful insults. Disagreements. Back and forth. Sexual tension does NOT come from rapport/agreeing.
/r/seduction30/09/19 11:37 PM
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If it's a big group of 4 or more, you can usually approach the one you're interested in while others talk amongst themselves. For a 3-set, you usually have to open the set, and provide value, via teasing, stories, etc. Mystery Method works only if you're able to be high energy and keep the group/target's interest. If you are having side conversation with another person and excluding her from participating at all, she will lose interest. Mystery Method also only works if you're not overly attract…
/r/seduction30/09/19 07:27 PM
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Don't go for the number, go for the pull. Flake rate is really high on numbers unless you've established an emotional connection with a girl. Why are you asking for the number instead of saying, "hey, let's go for a walk and get some fresh air" or "let's get something to eat, I'm hungry." It's a LOT easier to pull a girl the same night than it is to get her to come out and see you through texting. You need a ton more game to transition from a number to a date than to pull that same night. Look, …
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:57 PM
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Dude, move on. She considers you to be good enough to have sex with, but you don't have what it takes to be her BF. People think if a girl has sex with you then she wants a relationship. No. But if you run into her again at a party at some point, she may have sex with you again.
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:49 PM
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I prefer it to, for example, nightclub. Yeah, you can almost always find a SNL at a club, but I find that you have to drop your standards because at a club, the ratio of guys to girls is so high. On the street, if you have the balls, you can approach a super good looking girl and there is essentially no competition. In my experience, direct approach works the best, especially with really good looking girls. "Hey, I wanted to tell you I find you very pretty." This signals that you're confident. Y…
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:37 PM
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This is good, but you shouldn't say "sometime." Set up a specific date and time. Better yet, you should have taken her for an insta-date. Guys are always like "I should get her number and then set up a date." Why? Flake rate on numbers is 90%. Why not do it now? In pickup, you have to seize the moment. The next time you see her, she might have found someone, she might be on a different part of her cycle, etc. Stars don't always line up the same way. Don't hesitate.
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:19 PM
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I've had a lot of success in London. I number close about 60-70% of the time, and instadate about 10-20%. At Pret a Manger, while crossing the Thames, on the subway, etc. Brits are less responsive to being approached, but in London, half the people are international and even the Brits are more open. They like American guys, and also I'm fairly attractive and very confident so that probably helps--they probably think, "oh, this cocky American is trying to pick me up, he doesn't know that not done…
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:13 PM
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I don't think so. This girl texted OP that she wanted to get in bed with him. I think when she said they're just friends, she was saying she wasn't ready to make out yet. I would have raised her buying temperature more and tried again later. She might have been nervous, she might have felt too much like slut, whatever. The key is to be nonjudgmental and play it cool. OP didn't do that, but he did kick her out of bed which at least shows strength. The thing is, this isn't over. Invite her over ag…
/r/seduction25/09/19 12:51 AM
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Two sets are hard, but you have to basically set up the frame where you get her friend to vouch for her - hey your friend is really cute, but is she cool too? She' not psycho? It can be done, but not super easy. Some times when I've done it: 1) Take them both back to their places, drop the friend off first. 2) Take the friend aside and ask, "hey, your friend is really cool, I'm going to ask her to go for a walk, if you don't mind" But more often than not, the friend will cockblock.
/r/seduction23/09/19 10:31 PM
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Yup
/r/seduction23/09/19 10:27 PM
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You don't tell het you're taking her home. Even if she and you both know, that's way too crude. You have baby step it. Go for a walk, go get something to eat, stop by the house to look at you pet iguana...
/r/seduction23/09/19 10:27 PM
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It was heat of the moment. Girls always say that after ONS, because endorphins are running high. You may be good enough for her to have sex with but she may have higher standards for a LTR. Whatever you do, don't act needy. What happens will happen.
/r/seduction23/09/19 04:49 AM
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Ah, grasshopper, this is one of the hardest concept to grasp. There is "interest" as in "I want to telegraph that I like her" and "interest" as in "I want to see what she's like and then decide if I like her." To avoid confusion, let's call them "desire" and "curiosity." You never, ever, want to show her desire at the beginning. You should never telegraph desire until she has earned it. If you show desire before she has earned it, then you're showing too much thirst, and it kills all fun for her…
/r/seduction16/09/19 11:56 PM
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Every guy wants something different. The first point is this: a lot of girls want to go out, attract a confident, charismatic guy who leads, makes her feel safe, and sweeps her off her feet. To quote a feminist I read on reddit, "no woman spends three hours making herself pretty with the hoping 'I really hope no charismatic, funny guy approaches me tonight.'" So long as you're upfront about your intentions, the outcome can be a win win. And yeah, the point is that you don't want to put on an act…
/r/seduction16/09/19 10:23 PM
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Making it clear upfront that you're interested in her. Bring up something sexual, touch her arm, etc.
/r/seduction16/09/19 09:39 PM
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Seduction isn't about tricking a girl. It's about generating genuine interest and enriching both people's lives. If done right, PUA leaves both parties better in the end than before.
/r/seduction16/09/19 09:37 PM
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"Be friends with her first" - famous last words "act like what she did doesn't bother you" - what did she do, actually? She didn't say no. A confident guy would take that as a yes. If you take silence as a no, that tells her you're a loser.
/r/seduction14/09/19 09:21 PM
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Yes, you can attract women but given your question, it doesn't sound like you have much game or confidence either. So if you don't have something else to offer then it will be vey hard. Losing weight will make a huge difference, although it depends on what your underlying facial structure is. I went from about 20% body fat to 10% body fat, and it turned out I have very good facial structure which was not visible before. I have women throwing themselves at me. Not only that, women will give you g…
/r/seduction14/09/19 09:05 PM
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Thank you for the post and detailed FR. It seems you're attractive to begin with. Some people argue that game isn't important if you're attractive, but clearly your 2 FRs demonstrates game is important to everyone. I think u/bemore_ was pointing something out that is important and correct in your last post, although he didn't bother really explain it very well. I think what he was saying is that on the previous FR, you were being too outcome dependent. You saw the date as a success if you got la…
/r/seduction14/09/19 08:21 PM
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slip him your number
/r/seduction14/09/19 07:57 PM
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It's clear what happened. She was giving you signals, you didn't have the balls to act on it, she realized you're weak and scared, and lost attraction for you.
/r/seduction14/09/19 07:56 PM
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