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Debatebalhaegu/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:44 AM
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Unpaid bodyguard services
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:24 AM
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It "works" as long as you dont need modern coveniences like a starbucks latte and elevators
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:11 AM
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There is also remote chinese village that is a full fledged matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:38 PM
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I like zombie apocalypse movies, books, and games. My gf says I need therapy and jokes that I actually want the apocalypse to happen. God no. What gets me going about fiction is that I can explore the What If, without actually putting myself in danger. Like lets say maybe the zombie outbreak does happen. For a short while my adrelinine will be pumping. Ill have a rush of excitement shooting zombies and building shelters. Doesnt mean I want some higher power to drop me in a zombie infested world.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:49 PM
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Men want to fuck hot women but live with women that brings peace. Post nut clarity hits like a truck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:16 PM
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Easy. Take the money from the simps and pay for the date with a man she is actually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:19 PM
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So why is it in shambles? Why is there resentment?
/r/RedPillWomen22/06/26 01:07 PM
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Would make more sense if he was Muslim The truth is, youre 28, nearing 30. Bro thinks he can pull young hot baddies now that he is financially stable and has his life together. Its just "I wanna fuck the college sorority chick next door" with extra steps. It seems you have 2 choices. Divorce or live with it
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/26 08:00 AM
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Wholesome posts like this make me wonder why the fuck is this sub quarantined?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/26 07:47 AM
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Just by going with my anecdotal experience, the girls I paid everything for on first date didnt get very far. The girls that I made pay at least a good part of first date, one way or another, ended up being more interested in continuing things for a long time afterwards. Of course you want guys to pay for you so you have all the leverage and can discard them if youre not interested. From guys POV its better for the girl to pay, the more he wants to continue things with the girl. The more a perso…
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/26 03:20 AM
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If youre "used" to the guy paying for your dates in the past, and believe that to be the romantic thing for a guy to do, why arent you still with those romantic guys now?
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/26 12:24 AM
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He isnt even a real red pilled man. What loser brings up redpill talking points to his own woman. Thats validation seeking behavior. A real red pilled man would just watch those videos and keep the thoughts to himself because a woman is not someone you discuss these opinions with. He would make his woman feel safe and secure by leading the relationship. Whatever happens behind the scenes. His belief and opinions should be solid, and he should have conviction. If he thinks youre not a good woman …
/r/RedPillWomen18/06/26 01:33 AM
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No there are not. Unless youre twisting cases where man got custody after divorce and claiming that is the same as straight up rape
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:09 AM
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Patriarchy, frostbite, starvation, and wild animals hurt everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:45 AM
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I wouldnt say they hate men. Just acting in collective self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:49 AM
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Thank you for your answer. I think you could have started with that response instead of saying its up to the law to decide. Im not saying you are.one of those people. But im pretty sure most women would oppose a law against abortion or any law that restrict their rights, but when asked about laws that also unfairly disadvantage men, they would have a similar reaction. "Its up to someone else. Its someone elses problem". Not surprised. Most people care about their own issues more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:45 AM
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Again, it doesnt explain why this doesnt apply to murder. Female or male murderers are equally focused on even though theres also a disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:42 AM
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For real. Even minors who were groomed by female teachers have to pay for child support, ruining their future dreams and goals. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:38 AM
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When it affects you negatively, you actively push for changes in the law. When it doesnt, then its up to the law. Not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:30 AM
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Terrible reasoning. If women are more likely murdered by man than vice versa, the times a woman does shoot or stab a man in cold blood shouldnt be brushed under the rug just becayse its less probable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:29 AM
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So when a sober woman takes advantage of a drunk man and gets herself pregnant from his seed, should the man not be obligated to pay for child support because he was raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:28 AM
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Female biological goals are simple. Elevate her own status as much as possible that society and her own abilities allow Find a man that she percieves to be higher status than her and get commitment from him
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:59 AM
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The issue is that you assume there is some kind of imaginary moral right or excuse to do something. It literally doesnt matter. There are women who will never leave their serial cheater drug addict homeless bf. There are women who cheat on their prince charming with mansions and private jets. In the end its about desire. Wome are loyal to their feelings. If she feels she is attracted to you even if you cheat, or even more because of it, then obviously the other imaginary requirements or conditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:23 AM
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Your question was why should women care. It seems like youre incapable of caring even if you lose running water, electricity, safety, food on the table, etc due to societal collapse. Not my job to convince you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:24 PM
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Society was fine in the 20th century. There are more attractive men now than then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:08 PM
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Your society is going to collapse. But thats ok you will just migrate to a different society with healthy family units. And then try to change it from the inside
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:53 PM
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Bro clearly broke one of redpill rules to have an abundance mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:00 AM
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Truth is mpst people like to be told what to do. Even though few admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:55 AM
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Patriarchy isnt against womens rights
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:39 AM
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This is the longest "I can fix him" story Ive read
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/26 11:27 PM
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Experiment was conducted putting men and women on separate islands. One thrived while one starved. The women had all the freedom in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:24 AM
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So in conclusion, Patriarchy does not inherently oppress women because matriarchy by definition does not oppress men. There can be forms of patriarchy where women are treated well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:23 AM
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Yes there have been matriarchies. The Amazonians. The Cherokee Nation. Theres even a mountain village in china right now that is matriarchial. They all failed to achieve enough technological, economical, and military growth and became pushed put by patriarchies. Its Survival of the fittest. Time has shown that patriarchy is a more durable society. Hence they thrived. Proposing that an experimental matriarchy be promoted under the protection and subsidy of a patriarchy defeats the purpose. A true…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:43 PM
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So youre assuming that patriarchy is bad and matriarchy is good despite lack of evidence that this might be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:09 PM
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Women have been rulers of entire kingdoms as queens countless times in history. Ever heard of Queen Cleopatra, from Egyptian times? She didnt suddenly decide women were very capable even when she was a woman. There is a reason a lot of things were the way they were. Why must women be given permission from doing all those things? Why couldnt women just go off into the forest, chop down some trees, build a city, farm the land, and create a society where women had all the rights? Because thats what…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:04 PM
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Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:39 PM
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Have you ever considered that they were treated as less capable because well, they WERE less capable? What next. Women were considered weak and unfit to be soldiers or hunters. No way!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:17 PM
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And we forget the fact that men tend to be more likely to be extremely smart or extremely stupid. Meanwhile women have a bigger middle section of the bell curve
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:58 AM
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If patriarchy is against womens rights is matriarchy against mens rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:56 AM
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That is not what I said at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:01 AM
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No youre putting words in my mouth. Nowhere did i say women can only find happiness with 5% of men. I appreciate that youre engaging in the coversation with a genuine desire to debate. But i think youre fixated on the extremes. There is a difference between bad immature men and the average man. I would say the average man genuinely desires to improve himself and seeks a wholesome, loving relationship with a woman where both parties care for one another. However he is not perfect either. He will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:00 AM
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The CEO enjoying being a sub once in a while is simply due to balancing. Even if a man is relatively dominant, being put under so much pressure to be the top dog in every aspect of life when being CEO of a large company can overload his mental state. So the few breaks in between are a way of re balancing the equilibrium. Say that on scale of 0 to 100 a man is 80 on the dominant submissive scale. If he is forced into 100 levels all the time, then its understandable he wants to feel submissive lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:51 AM
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It doesnt change the validity of the previous persons claim. Women want men that are "better than them" and then to be "considered equal to them". Basically, he has to be objectively a better person than you for you to be able to consider him as your equal. The metrics are an average of different factors. Height, strength, income, education, emotional maturity, discpiline, social status, network, ambition, etc. The moment that a woman feels she can "do better", the attraction dries up. This isnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:52 AM
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I appreciate your opinion. Clearly you are bitter and this makes you want to attack people who may bring out the uncomfortable truth. I hope you find warmth one day after you meet someone who makes you feel safe enough to be soft and feminine, the natural state in harmony with your nature, TheColdWoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:43 AM
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I never said you should help a man grow to be top 5%. You seem fixated on a man's job as the key indicator of his status. They can have an average job like you saud. Truck driver, police officer, etc. But for an average woman to be truly happy in the relationship the man needs to be masculine and a leader. Being a leader doesnt mean he needs to be CEO of a company or a millitary officer. It means he makes plans, stays true to his words, sets clear boundaries, recognizes issues in the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:36 AM
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Im glad you have yours. But do you hear yourself? By mathematical logic, only 5% of women can have the top 5% man. What about the other 95% of women? Im not saying you should nor invest in yourself. Its not a zero sum game. You can help each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:47 PM
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Who is the leader in bed? That will give you the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:17 PM
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Some women want to wait at finish line to select the winners. Some want to cut out the competition and look for a man wirh potential even if he is not perfect. Then invest early. Just like real life investors differ in strategy women do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:56 PM
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Yes you are a team. But there is always a leader of a team. Are you the leader? No? Then he is. When everything is picture perfect, you might seem youre making equal decisions. But when there is serious crisis. Like your roof collapses or there is suddenly a war breaking out, then who does the family naturally look towards for answers? Who bears the bulk of the burden for planning for the future? Yes each partners role is important. But its not going to be exactly 50-50%. If you break down under…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:52 PM
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There is no "glory". When men and women work together in unison they both reap the rewards in being able to live under a nice roof and a comfortable life. Its a free country and people can share opinions however they want. No one is forcing anything on anyone. If yoh havent checked, this post is labeled question for redpill. No one asked your opinion either, yet here you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:48 PM
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Like I said. Everyone is free to do their own thing and listen to whoever they want. Im offering my own opinions. The most stable relationship is when the man is captain and the woman is first mate. Something as simple as constantly asking the woman what she wants to eat for dinner is gonna slowly lead to ruin of a relationship. Because women naturally happy when the man makes the plans, and she helps improve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:20 AM
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There is a reason why the bible said man should lead and love his wife as christ led the church. Im not religious but this idea is in every tradition. When women are led by a capable man they are most relaxed, happy, and secure. Most men are not capable leaders, hence the women married to them are constantly frustrated. On the surface, you may desire equality, and believe you can handle everything yourself. But deep down there is a desire to be proven wrong, and a truly masculine man will bring …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:06 AM
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Thats also an option. And women are free to do that. Im giving advice to women who specifically want a partner in life, but dont want to compete with everyone else for just the top 5%. You can stay alone if you want while others live happy fufilling lives with partners they form a healthy bond with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:32 AM
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Ultimately its up to you. But if you cant find a man that is worth obeying you can also unlock an average man's potential and turn him into a leader. Not everything is predetermined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:15 AM
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But when did he marry you? Not when you were 42 i assume
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 10:20 PM
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Rather than cool, why dont you try being warm? Think about how you can uplift or improve the other persons day with just simple caring words. What goes around comes around.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 03:26 PM
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Nothing wrong with going younger than 28. Its actually more likely the guy will be looking to settle down with a 30 year old if he is 26 than if he is 36. When he is 36 he has his life together and financially stable. He would probably go for the hottest chick around. In mid 20s. If he is 26 or younger he is just reaching his potential and would be happy with a 30 year old attractive woman and may even seek to settle down. The SMV is roughly equal in that regard so it makes a good match
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 03:23 PM
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Well just look at it this way. There are many 26 year olds who are more mature and have more wisdom than lot of 30 year olds. It depends on HOW spent those years. Not how many years they spent. Look for your usual signs of well adjustedness, and just take age out of the equation. Simply having conversations with men you find in responsible settings, unlike clubs and bars, would be a good start.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 01:30 PM
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There are more dishonest businessmen tha decent ones
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 12:10 PM
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Youre seeking integrity from ambitious , wealthy people. Its aa dog eat dog world. Cant become rich easily without stepping on a few toes. And youd be extra special for such a man to make an exception for you. Cant have the cake and eat it too
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 08:38 AM
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Would you consider a man with a stable but not so shiny profession a viable partner at all? A fireman, policeman, teacher, mailman, welder, mechanic, etc. He would make enough to support himself and independent living space, a car, and some modest luxuries. Nothing extraordinary. Spends his free time watching TV, video games, maybe walking a dog or painting Warhammer 40k tabletop figures. Can you imagine marrying him? Or are you gonna be frustrated by his lack of ambition and nag him?
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 08:35 AM
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Thats actually a good idea. If youre 30 then instead of trying to look for only older men, dont cross out guys in their mid 20s.
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 08:32 AM
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Well youre on reddit. Of course reading about random men on the internet using manipulative tactics to get laid will make you cringe. However in the real world you wouldmt even notice who is redpill or not. Its not written on their forehead. You will be naturally attracted to assertive, confident men with their own frame over someome who constantly tries to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:25 AM
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Or clearly you never met a real man who can open your desires Notice i said Once Triggered. That trigger itself isnt happening all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:11 AM
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They were not denied anything. All women had to do is go off into the prarie or the forest and start their own society. Instead women preferred prebuilt cities and societies with the most advanced infrastructure built by men. Hence they had to follow mens rules
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:17 AM
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Problem is they gotta do it every day to be effective
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:15 AM
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Calm down. The exact line that divides innocent and disprespecrful itself is not written in stone and can vary from person to person. I agree that a well adjusted man can tell by reading the room. And i personally have no issues. But this is not something you can put in a manual. If the woman makes a big issue about it and tries to sue the guy for sexual harassment then his life would be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:14 AM
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We are arguing that leaning in for the kiss is in itself disrespectful. She didnt consent! Not all people know exactly what the woman thinks. Theyre not telepaths sometimes they gotta take a risk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:42 AM
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There are tons of guys (we dont know an exact percentage) who report success using red pill methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:39 AM
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$15k for a bang! Thats not respect. Thats sugar daddying! A homeless bum can get laid if he plays his cards right and its not being nice. Women are loyal to feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:38 AM
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When a man rubs one out he can think with utmost clarity. A woman has no such option. Womans lust once triggered is insatiable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:35 AM
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Maybe. But having experience and knowing how women behave itself allows men to also attract a good woman to settle down with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:34 AM
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Womens mind and body react to different things
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:13 PM
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Look at all the guys getting laid with lots of women. Are they respectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:10 PM
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This is not true. lot of women secretly want to express their freaky side. However just like a video game that caters to popular demand, the women in the modern world have nerfed the men and made them boring, since its now considered toxic to be dominant and assertive and now less and less women can enjoy their true feminine nature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:02 AM
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I think harassment is the poor choice of words. "Risk making women uncomfortable" can replaced that word
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:58 AM
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Very beautifully written. Sounds similar to the premise of Everything Everywhere All at Once
/r/RedPillWomen27/05/26 03:11 PM
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Depends on his game. Men gain better game the older they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:02 AM
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Well consider the fact that men were going to be conscripted for war whenever a conflict broke out, but women were expected to stay home. So while there may have been slightly higher privileges for the male medieval serf, the consequences and responsibilities heavily outweigh those advantages. I would say its unequal in roles, but not as unequal in overall quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:59 AM
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As long as you dont leave the home youll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:11 PM
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World war 1 was the catalyst that gave women rights to vote. Even black men were given right to vote before white women. WW1 caused all the men to go fight in the war and women had to leave the traditional homemaking role to work in factories to produce war goods. As a result women startrd to make money and it became more accepted for women to have careers. Suffrage was granted to women because their cooperation was necessary to win the war. Countries like Afghanistan are extremely patriarchial.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:07 PM
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Sounds like they need a man to protect them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:58 PM
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Yes because women in pre modern times didnt live in societies with law and order where rape was often punishable by death and where other men such as fathers and brothers didnt protect the women of the household from random strong men who would try to rape and assault their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:54 PM
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Seems like you have history all wrong. In medieval and ancient times, the lower rhe status, the more equal were the men and women. For example female slave was just as lowly as male slave. Female peasant and male pesants were practically equals. The higher up the hierarchy, the more patriarchial and sexist everything became. Women were confined to the home. Unable to meet any other men, etc. You dont see the male peasant reigning like a lord of a shabby cottage. No, its either equality as a peas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:00 PM
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Ai bf is cheaper than Robot gf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:01 PM
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No it can be a reward for women depending on the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:28 PM
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This is true. However it depends on context. If the woman slept around with other guys in the past BUT made you wait for it, then he would feel like crap. Because it implies she views him as inferior to those other men. But if she is a virgin or had similar standards for other men, then a good man would respect that. It depends on the woman. If he views her as wifey material to begin with, he would protect her honor. If a woman sleeps with a man on first date, chances are he will think she is ea…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/26 02:28 AM
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Are you referring to the documentary The Red Pill? I remember it was about family courts leaving men out to dry
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:04 PM
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Not a woman but from sex gurus advice i assume orgasm isnt the most important thing in enjoyment of sex by women. Its the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:00 AM
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Well humans are guided by emotions. The concept of fairness applies to relationships too. If you dont want bf getting jealous, best to just keep it a secret. If you dont want to lie, maintain a clean past. Third option is find a bf who simply doesnt care. But then he probably doesnt care because he has no other options or doesnt see you as long term. There is no easy answer. Just like women get the ick for weirdest things you cant rationalize male icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:40 AM
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If the person in front of you at Mcdonalds got a toy with his happy meal but you didnt, youd be pretty pissed too no? And youd just go to a different burger joint
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:33 AM
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OR, instead of approaching women with the intention of convincing them youre a catch, why not just go up to random chicks and order them around like she already your bitch. Women like an assertive man. Do it a hundred times I gurantee you some are gonna vibe to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:40 AM
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Sex therapist sounds like a job that makes a lot of sense An attractive man or woman who legally bundles sex as part of therapy sessions would have a much higher demand than traditional therapy. Imagine your conventional therapist, but instead of just listening to your problems, they do so while sucking your dick or licking your coochie. Mental health will improve by a hundredfold
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:25 AM
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Why are you viewing men as a monolith? Clearly the slut shaming is reserved for women who have sex with multiple OTHER men, not you per se. Well ditto sex is an act done to women in many contexts. One genital shoots out fluids, the other recieves. Masculine is the active, feminine is the passive. One is a pointy object one is a hole. Need I go on? Its just semantics. Also we have heard too many women begging to be fucked or railed or have their brains blown out to believe that this is hardly an …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:49 PM
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4B is the biggest joke on the internet. 75% of South Korean women are in a relationship with a man. (Compared to 50% of American women). Thats literally every woman who is reasonably attractive. 4B my ass!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:53 AM
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Modern society punishes men who make commitments. Ergo, less men are willing to commit, or at least vet their partner dilligently before doing so. If you find that men arent commiting to you, then thats about you, not the men themselves. For example i am willing to commit to my gf for a list of reasons, but not most of the women i see in my surroundings. Its like asking why people wont buy your apples. Do people not like apples anymore? No, maybe your apples specifically are sour and too expensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:17 PM
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Sounds about right. I was feminist until I started dating. Turns out, most women want to be put in their place by a dominant, assertive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:37 AM
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Originally votes were made by heads of households. The whole family unified their vote into 1. Women held influence as mothers, wives, and sisters. The men chose politicians who would best look out for interests of the whole family, including the women. And women owned property even in the medieval times. Women were probably discouraged from having careers. Because it was considered natural for women to bear children, and careers can pose obstacles to that. Feminists want women to pursue careers…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:44 PM
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Dutch is cringe. Getting the girl to pay is the best strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:25 AM
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Maybe those people arent desparate for sex. Maybe they want to build a loving family, watch their children grow, and see those children get married and have grandkids. That all requires a woman who is aligned in life goals. If you call that being used, then maybe men are just designed that way. To be used for their resources so that the next generation gets a chance to be born. Even men that have plenty of access to sex long to settle down with a good woman. But cannot find such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:06 PM
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Not really. Men can just go to a different country where their contributions are valued more. Everything balances itself out. Law of supply and demand. Bad for who is the question. Men can always take their business elsewhere. The powers that be will lose those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:16 PM
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Imagine if across the world, every woman grew 1 foot taller on average and twice as strong as men. The men stay the same, but suddenly the majority of men would become undatable and society would collapse from zero births. Because women always want someone who is better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:01 PM
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You cant know on first sight. This is why your male friends or family members who actually know good guys that would make a good match, can provide helpful insight. No matter what you describe about a guy i wouldnt trust him until ive known him for a while, at least 1 year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:09 AM
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I hear lot of reports of academia leaving because they cant pursue research they want when it goes against the mainstream feminist sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:21 AM
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There was a presidential candidate who wanted to make things more fair. Currently only males are conscripted into the military. This has been a cause for controversy for a while. He wanted to create a volunteer military enlisted system for women too, and require prior military service to be mandatory for firefighter and police jobs. That way, women who want those jobs need to serve the military as enlisted beforehand. Guess what this guy was branded as a misogynist by most of the female voters. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:20 AM
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The issue didnt exist when that was the case. So probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:16 AM
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Yes for a long time the tests were easier for women. Only recently the law was passed to make the passed equal starting 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:14 AM
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Sounds like youre just brushing aside problems faced by people in a different time, different place, just because your grandfather didnt have those issues
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:13 AM
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Problem is, no woman actually is sent to go through those tight spots during a fire here. Its all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:11 AM
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Appreciate the opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:10 AM
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Good to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:10 AM
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How the hell would I have proof? no one leaves recordings around for it to be collected into a database or anything. Its all based on anecdotal reports from people who claimed to have worked in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:15 PM
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I dont know the whole story myself. I just report on what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:14 PM
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There was a specific news report aired today that said the office personnel were overstaffed. The frontline personnel were understaffed. Therefore they cant even hire more frontline personnel because office staff is taking up the slots
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:12 PM
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Its not that easy. You will probably be painted as a misogynist if you did that in this climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:10 PM
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Yes it happens often. Women are almost always kept out of difficult or dangerous tasks in public sector jobs in korea. Its remenants of traditional gender norms which are outdated in modern era. Even in municipal offices, which are dominated by women, the few men in the office do the hard labor like moving boxes or carrying heavy objects even if theyre paid the same. When its snowing the men shovel the snow while women stay indoors. This makes less and less men want to apply for those positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:08 PM
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You make it sound easy. Like i said, this is difficult because the heads of departments cant just make those decisions without angering a lot of people. And a lot of people judge based on feelings not long term thinking. Like most jobs, people naturally apply for jobs for money. And if allowed theyll try to do least work for most money. In the end its not even women to blame. Its the men in their 50s that are in positions of power who ultimately pander to young women at the expense of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:02 PM
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Its a growing problem in my country. Pandering to gender equalists for the sake of trying to give everyone a job regardless of their competence. Of course i cant give you an academic paper on this phenomenon because it will be the end of career of whoever writes such a paper. Doing any research or statement that some Institutions are being weakened by feminization is in itself misogynist, and the work will be demonized
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:54 PM
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Well clearly every country has different laws. USA isnt the whole world. We are here to debate. Youre not offering any valuable insights. How about some empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:50 PM
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Like I said, the frontline firefighters are normally supposed to rotate between comfortable roles and stressful roles for sustainability. Even if women make up a smaller portion as a whole, the problem is theyre consistently glued to the comfortable roles, making the front line firefighters unable to catch a break. This causes burnout and less people willing to serve on the frontlines. If women were rorated to frontlines just like everyone else the problem wont happen The same thing is happening…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:45 PM
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Like i said the post was inspired by a recent news report about this happening in South Korea. For California fires, the exact cause is a controversy between the left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:43 PM
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Sometimes the tests are biased to allow women pass who arent fit, just to fill quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:42 PM
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Its a growing issue in many parts of the world. In Catalonia 40% are required to be women. Some parts of Australia, 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:40 PM
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More like bending to pander to the women who beg to be kept out of the front lines. And the senior leadership just listen to women because its the path of least resistance. Its not so easy to hire for what they need. Like i said, there are quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:39 PM
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Depends on the country. In my country, the elibility requirements has been different for men and women, making it easier for women to pass. Recently, it was announced that the favoritism will end starting in 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:37 PM
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So are you for or against the idea that firefighters on foot that are facing more danger and stress should be paid additional incentives compared to support personnel?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:31 PM
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There are quotas on minimum number of women being hired for departments. So even if she wasnt capable, she would still be hired due to DEI. The physical requirements to be eligible are different for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:24 PM
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What if its a normal housekeeping robot with sex features.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:30 AM
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So 500 days of Summer was a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:29 AM
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Depends on what country youre talking about. Its not immoral. Go for what you like. Lower STD rate, lower obesity rate, lower drug rate, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:28 AM
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Does being in a same age relationship guarantee woman not leaving? I doubt it. In fact its more likely the woman leaves him for an older man than a younger man. So whos the real perpetrator of age gap relationships? Men or women? I say it takes 2 to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:25 AM
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As men get older and build life with a woman the libido declines and desire for peace increases. If the wife doesnt nag at the man for working on his car or watching TV, and if the wife continues to show appreciation, respect, and effort to maling her man feel like the man of the house, he will value that peace over chasing hot young pussy any day of the week. The man balances what he has and wants to protect over any new benefit from a risky endeavor. You can help make that choice easy to make.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:20 AM
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Do they express interest or do they actually want to marry and settle down with and have kids with guys 10 years younger than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:56 AM
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Emotional maturity come with age. No brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:48 PM
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And after all this logic and reasoning about a fair equitable transaction the guy who tells a girl "get on your knees bitch!" Gets head. Sometimes using the brain doesnt get results. Action does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:18 AM
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30 year old man with stable job and his own house and car and savings vs 20 year old man with college debt, no job, no savings. Tough choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:08 AM
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Seeing that most people meet online compared to decades ago, times have changed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:04 AM
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Good thing the world is a big place and the West isnt the only place to find women. Even in the biblical times you had the city called Sodom which was basically the morally depraved society you described. I get your frustrations. But modern society gifted you with a passport and airplane ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:24 PM
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Its a simple principle. Let me give you an analogy based on historical events. During the cold war when Communism swept Asia, South Korea was the only country on the mainland that fought back against the communists and kept their freedom. Why? Because the government gave each man a parcel of land as part of land reforms to call their own. If the communists win, they lose their land and it gets nationalized. So the men had something to protect, and many gave their lives in the war when they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:13 PM
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Yes it can be fun. But a woman will always have a voice in her head that tells her to nag her man and constantly test him to see if he is still the best choice for her, simply because of evolutionary biology selected for such behaviors for survival. Even if you can relax aroumd your woman 6 days of the week, that 1 day each week you have to be on guard to be the leader of her emotions. With a guy friend you dont need to deal with all those shit tests or nagging. After doing fun thing together yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:52 AM
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I dont envy being a woman. Men can work hard to become attractive even when middle aged. Women, not so much. What looks like a disadvantage for men, is actually an advantage. What looks like a blessing can be a curse. Women aged 20-30 are going to be highly sought after. But time flies. A man who cultivated his mind, body, and resources is unstoppable at 40, 50, even 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:22 AM
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You cant say that its the only thing required. Everyone has different needs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:13 AM
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And then once you get to the sex part, its not over! Thats when the real hoops begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:03 AM
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I feel like modern couples dont try to work out their issues as much as before and are happy to jump to the next available option. Sex drive can be frustrating to match, but there are ways to help each other. If the woman is low sex drive and man is high, then there are multiple options that can involve effort from both parties. Also applies to vice versa Man works out and gains a sexy body Man and women both do some regular excercise, increasing testosterone and libido, as well as bonding Woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:56 AM
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I think op also means that once you do find someone who clicks the energy of maintaining a healthy relationship can be tiresome. Women get bored easily
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:00 PM
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Everything you can do with a girl, its more fun to do with a male friend, with the very big exception of sex, if youre straight that is. Eating, traveling, hanging out, drinking, playing games, working, therapy, pretty much everything you can imagine, youre gonna be able to relax more, get more done, laugh more, etc. If its your guy best friend. But biology made men desire sex, so having women in your life is also essential for a full life. Everything you give up when youre spending time with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:58 PM
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Men are more than capable of doing everything a woman can except give birth and breastfeed babies Reason why women tend to housework is because if the man earns money and the woman wants to stay at home, then what is she going to do to contribute? Housework
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:11 AM
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Youre basically describing all of East Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:59 PM
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At first i thought it would be that simple. But then i saw some instagram shorts of women approaching guys and asking for their number. Surprisingly, even when the women were attractive the men almost overwhelmingly responded with a refusal. Its not because they dont lile the girl, its because men are automatically wired to be suspicious of women approaching men since it almost never happens unless the woman is trying to sell something, its a prank, or she is a psycho. On the other hand, men app…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:36 AM
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I mean there are entire countries with that belief system like Afghanistan. The idea comes from religious traditions that decided that the only way to maintain a stable population in a human society is by limiting education for women, so theyre dependent on men. Because otherwise, women will become self sufficient and then will not have reason to have kids above replacement rate. People get executed by the taliban for teaching girls how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:48 AM
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Same situation with some men who dislike younger guys, or men of other ethnicities who make more money than them or drive more expensive cars than them, or even dating pretty women they cant pull. Its really not all guys. Just those with inferiority complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:42 AM
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You just gotta draw the line and tell the girl what you expect from her. Simple as that. Self respect is attractive in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:37 AM
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For real. A woman who had a committed relationship with a decent man for a few years but didnt work out, sounds more emotionally mature and reliable even if she did have sex, compared to a woman who wanked off multiple guys just for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:35 AM
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I mean, she had to get the jizz out of that rapper one way or another amirite? She just could not control herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:34 AM
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There is no such thing as a technical virgin. Either youre a virgin or youre not. If you only had anal sex, titty fucks, oral, got cummed on by 8 guys in an orgy but just because there was no PIV are you a virgin? Its just semantics. If you enjoyed casual hookups then youre probably best suited for guys who prefer casual hookups over commitment. Why would a man who has qualities that women desire (looks, status, stability, etc) settle for a woman who disgusts him over the plenty of women who kep…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:32 AM
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Here is a solution. Both couples work and the mother of one of the parents comes to live with the family and take care of kids. I bet the mother of the kids is going to treasure the amount of effort her husband's mother puts into motherhood
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:39 AM
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The amount of gay and trans men in Western countries say otherwise Asian is the perfect size for evolutionary survival. This is evidenced by having the longest life expectancy and ability to maintain male virility as well as testerone levels. This is what defines true masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:16 AM
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Reddit is an American platform. America is a white majority country. White males have tended to be threatened by Asian males in history. Yellow peril, Mongol invasions, Huns, Pearl Harbor, Ottoman Empire, etc if you count West Asians as Asian. Africa or Lantin America never posed a threat to Eurocentric civilization, historically being victims of colonization and slavery hence the lack of anti Black or Hispanic male stereotypes. Even today, China, Korea, Japan is the US main contender in AI, tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:12 AM
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And if he made much less than you, you wouldnt be dating him anyways lol Personally i only do 100/0, and gf does the chores. Simpler that way and she doesnt have to worry about me not loving her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:08 AM
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Either 50/50 or 100/0 and she does the chores. 70/30 or whatever is just stupid. How are you going to nitpitck over everything. Either you have an equal relationship, or a provider relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:05 AM
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Study of European monarchs showed female rulers were more likely to start wars tham male rulers. Reason why men commit more violent crime is because men are stronger. Simple as that. If men and women had equal strength, it could well be the case that women commit more violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:38 PM
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The documentary The Red Pill does its job well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:34 PM
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More like, hook up with liberal women. Then marry the conservative woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:02 PM
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Except the women crying about passport bros being a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:01 PM
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Every woman can be slutty for the right man. Every woman can be conservative for the wrong man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:09 AM
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Only when the group is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:35 AM
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As long as he has a good body, the face can be average
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:06 AM
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People dont collectively act in the groups interest when everyone gets a vote do they? Easier to take a bite out of the future and indulge today than think of the future. Who will think about the childrens future when no one has children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:19 AM
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Not overextending the military with costly foreign wars. Avoiding overtaxation. Not relying on mercenaries to defend the country. All good lessons from the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:16 AM
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And what do you find funny about that? Pondering about the rise and fall of empires, deeply analyzing what they did right or wrong is part of healthy intellectual activity that keeps society strong. And do note the Roman Empire lasted 1500 years. Which you can say is a very lasting empire if any can be called such. And there are even longer lasting empires farther in the past. Thinking about what they had in common is a way to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:57 PM
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Women like a man who has balls to have an opinion that he calls his own. It doesnt matter what the opinion is. Why do you think even serial killers get hundreds of love letters? In a shit hits the fan situation the man who has the balls is more likely to survive and protect his woman than someone who performs to please others. Thats why. Its all based in evolutionary instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:29 PM
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Population collapse is heavily linked to economics, the pension system, social security, and a lot of important things we take for granted in society. The fact that you cant connect the dots is precisely proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:28 PM
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And how many times do YOU think about the Roman Empire? Progressivism isnt necessarily the answer to everything. Lasting systems are borne from tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:27 PM
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This is why religious populations will always be significant no matter how far in the future society progresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:23 AM
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Expecting women to care or have an opinion of a future that doesnt directly affect them was your mistake. Men care about legacy and civilization, lineage. Women care about the me and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:21 AM
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And the minors have to pay child support despite being a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:18 AM
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Man seek peace. Women seek chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:26 AM
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Mens' challenge: becoming rich Womens' challenge: staying young Difficulty levels of both: impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:15 AM
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Masturbation reduces libido which reduces motivation to ask a girl out. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:31 PM
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Ejaculation is healthy. Masturbation can be healthy if the alternative is a year of no ejaculation. Which for some is reality. But most people have wet dreams or absorb semen. Or better yet, have a gf jerk you off. Many religions ban masturbation, and there is wisdom to this. Masturbation itself isnt bad but it is like a cheat code and there are consequences. Of course most people masturbate like most people eat junk food. Imagine the effort it takes to get your life together and get a gf or par…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:15 PM
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Thats it just make a law that requires 20 year old women to only date 20 year old men and vice versa. Not one year older or younger allowed. Same for income level. You can only date someone within $10,000 of yearly income. Then finally everyone will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:39 AM
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Or maybe its about biological instinct to be attracted to fertillity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:35 AM
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They need to start by quitting porn and masturbation. Motivation leads to execution. Instant gratification kills motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:34 AM
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Even better its wise to have the woman pay for the first date just to be extra sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:16 AM
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I dont want to hear anyone complain that men care about womens body count anymore then. They can go marry princes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:43 AM
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Then why women get so mad when rich guys wont marry a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:16 AM
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Not with marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:00 AM
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Both are promiscuous by nature but women tend to reward promiscuous men more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:25 AM
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I would prefer more precise breakdown of my statements for a constructuve discussions. "Why?" Should be answered for all of your opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:08 AM
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In other news, prostitution good because everyone wins
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:30 PM
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Combine all the 3D industries and its not small.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:23 PM
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I dont understand the question. Do i choose which guy id rather be, or rather date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:22 PM
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Women are biologically wired to abstain from procreation unless there is real, strong, attraction while men would settle for an average woman due to the simple fact that women bear children and men dont. This is why traditional societies encouraged monogamy for almost all adults through customs or religion. Otherwise human nature would devolve society into primitive hunter gatherer societies without a large hierarchial civilization. But in a modern democratic society, freedom of choice i everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:02 PM
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Why do you think the men are going into dangerous indistries like logging or construction, oil rigs, etc. Because they want to make money to be able to provide for women and a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:22 PM
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Even better metric. Try to get a woman to spend money on you. If she buys you dinner and a PS5, youre hot stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:20 PM
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Even better, talk to an AI
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:59 AM
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Even better than paying for sex is jerking off. Its free, doesnt cost money, dont need others judging you for it if they find out, perfectly legal (in most developed countries), and all you need is a hand. Just put on yoyr favorite porn, or read some smut, or even redit sex stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:52 AM
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Unless he is rich. A rich man pays her to leave, not to stay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:39 AM
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Marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:45 PM
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https://outofedenwalk.nationalgeographic.org/2022-03-visiting-matriarchal-village-remote-mountains-southwest-china/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:43 PM
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https://outofedenwalk.nationalgeographic.org/2022-03-visiting-matriarchal-village-remote-mountains-southwest-china/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:43 PM
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You ask if oppression of women would stop in your lifetime.there are plenty of societies where it is matriarchial. You just dont want to live there because they dont have modern conveniencss
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:31 PM
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As long as countries like Afghanistan exists, I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:56 AM
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You can go to North Korea where everyone is equally oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:44 AM
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If you believe women are underpaid even if they create same value as men then you can create a company and hire all women and watch your profits fly through the ceiling. Why hasnt anyone done that Money earned is based on supply and demand. Why dont male onlyfans models make as much as female onlyfans models? Isnt that also sexist? Why do Black NFL players make more than white NFL players? Maybe some demographics are more productive in some aspects than others, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:10 AM
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If you ask if we should, answer is definitely no. But if you want to know why some societies do that, including the taliban in modern day who execute anyone who teaches women how to read, or the Egyptians on the ancient times where women couldnt go to school, then there are some explanations. Simply, some cultures that have persisted throughout the millenia happened to oppress women, and oppressing women resulted in their continued existence, reinforcing this trait. For example if society A oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:03 AM
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These are things that mothers and grandmothers advised their daughters and grandaughters since time memmorial so they dont end up becoming old and single. Women ask how they can attract a man of their dreams. People give advice Then the woman asks, but why should I do this? I dont even know if the man is worthy doing this for. Well why did you fucking ask then? When men ask for advice on attracting a woman they take notes. Work out, be confident, be funny, make money, etc. They dont start asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:37 AM
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Israel seems to do alright, with a very low promiscuity level compared to other developed nations, with a healthy fertillity rate to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:55 AM
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This line of thinking is what makes the Taliban shoot anyone who teaches women how to read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:30 AM
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A better attitude is "theres plenty of fish in the sea" If a woman choose another man in front of you, go choose a different woman yourself. If you cant, then the woman is right to assume youre low value. If you can, then the woman will probably get jealous and come runni gback. If not, no loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:28 AM
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Men want peace. Usually the woman who has less leverage is less likely to disrupt that peace
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:03 PM
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Yes men can tolerate women being better at something. But when it comes to strength, damseling works on me for a reason. Asking the bf to open a can of pickles will make him more attracted to you, as opposed to doing everything yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:39 AM
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I guess we cant measure difficulty on a relative scale than the past because no one has stayed the same age 20 years ago and now. So no one can compare experiences. However i will say men have become so afraid of cold approaching that there is literally no competition in the real world. If you just walk up to a girl and ask whats her favorite movie you already rose above 99% of men who dont male the actual first move if its not on an app
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:56 PM
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Dating apps made dating easier by killing off competition for approaching i the real world. More men becone phone obsessed and afraid to be rejected. If you took on your grandfathers mindset and approach 100 women without fear of failure youre gonna be more successful than decades ago
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:30 AM
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I mean buddhist monks are bald and required to abstrain from sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:44 AM
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So youre basically a very successful buddhist monk as long as you dont eat meat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:04 AM
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Guy who makes 200k and pays 80% in either taxes or rent in an expensive city. Vs Guy who makes 70k and keeps every cent because he owns his own property and runs a small business that deducts business expenses and avoids taxes, AND lives in an area with lower cost of living. Most women wont know the second one will offer a vastly greater quality of life, freedom, and disposable income. That helps smart men dodge the vain ones A better measure of a mans suitability for me if i were a woman or giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:26 AM
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No joke. This is what ive noticed. When 2 men get together they inevitably end up talking about stocks, crypto, or other ways to make money. When women get together theyll talk about ways to spend money
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:22 AM
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These women dont understand the difference between income and assets. Imagine turning down a guy who makes 60k but owns million dollars worth of stock. At least say you only date 6 figures or equivalent in annual return based on WACC of 5% of assets
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:39 PM
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When you ask women for dating advice, they are already imaging their ideal dream prince charming , and talking about what they would like for him to act like to make her happy. Easy test to see if what they say is true. Do those things the women advise and ask THEM out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:32 PM
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And among those stunted men a small few still rise from the ashes and dont give a shit about what the women said. Those are the ones that make the women go wet and knock them up, even while the women may be married to and cuckold their docile husbands whom they secretly resent. Story as old as time itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:27 PM
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A real man wouldnt care what a woman has to say about them. This is how women weed out real men from boys. The ones that dont let women dent their self esteem are the winners
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:04 AM
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Pull out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:05 PM
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How many people in that company
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:23 PM
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I have yet to see a company run by all women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:58 AM
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But without men the work wouldnt get done. Thats why you rarely see companies with all women. So men are simultaneously the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:09 PM
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True women are not at fault. But theres a reason why seafaring ships traditionally forbade women on board. Men fight amongst each other for female validation. And then it leads to ruin of the unit. Similar things can happen in a company to less drastic extent. Not womens fault. Just biology. Men in power favor beautiful women over high performers. This leads to disgruntlement of the workforce. The high performers leave and start their own company. Then when they get in power they again promote b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:44 AM
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Women want to hire men because theyre hard workers. Men want to hire women because theyre horny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:51 AM
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He didnt protect provide or lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:29 PM
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How about your father
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:30 AM
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Glorified retelling of the story of Kings and concubines. History repeats itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:55 AM
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Sounds reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:29 AM
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So the man can have sex with other women during the 6 months? Or are you forcing him to be a monk during that time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:21 AM
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I made a post on this sub asking how many women would reject a gamer and it was quite a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:51 PM
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If that is the case then is liberalism harmful for liberal men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:58 PM
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Have you never asked friends to go to movies, arcade, fair etc, any fun activuty together? Was the person that asks expected to pay for everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:37 PM
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And even if research proved that passport bros who get younger and more willing partners from other countries are total losers they dont gaf and are entitled to their choices
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:48 AM
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At 31 if you have wrinkles and receding hairline, how fast are you aging?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:14 AM
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To be fair, pre agricultural society was basically a gangbang culture. No one knew who their fathers were. But that was ok because the tribe shared all resources. After agriculture, land was divided into private property, and purity was important for a patrilineal inheritance of resources
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:32 AM
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The amount of money needed to make a single man happy is probably 1/10 of what is needed to make a whole family with wife and 2 kids happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:56 AM
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The problem is, why would those men build the roads and run the power plants if they dont have a woman and family to provide for? Without a purpose, many men will just work in mcdonalds and live in a cardboard box and society will fall apart. And then you will ask, "so does that mean i have to be forced to marry construction workers to keep society from falling apart?" Thats not the point of the statement. This is a free democracy. You do what you want. But a society that respects mens contribut…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:47 AM
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Yawn. Oldest story ever told.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:36 AM
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Do yiu think men have a choice in choosing a life devoid of turbulence? Women who provide peace and unconditional support is few and far in between. The role of the man is to stand still as a mast for a ship in a storm. Women cant stand weak men. Thats fact no matter the culture or nation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:36 AM
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And women in developed nations arent picky about how much their potential husband earns? Men love bargains. What can i say Consider 2 scenarios. Average american man marries average american woman and lives a life of being nagged about how she could have done better. Or the average man marries a woman from south america who worships him like a god with the same amount of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:35 PM
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I agree. And there is no morale failure in men that succeed in getting their desires fufilled by fully grown consenting adults from other countries that are younger, more attractive, and kinder than the women that keep saying they have no moral obligation to sleep with these men in their own countries
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:24 PM
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Or unpaid inrernships. Or internships where you actually pay to work. But in dating, most men feel like the juice isnt worth the squeeze, unlike jobs which are required to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:41 AM
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Its easier to get a job if you have work experience. But if everyone is hiring only experienced employees where do the fresh college graduates get their experience from
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:25 AM
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Look at the second Joker movie Foilie a Deux. When Joker is being crazy psychopath he gets a girlfriend. When he wants to be nice and human again the girl leaves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:16 AM
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You said hes nervous. People get better with experience. No need to get personal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:20 PM
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What opens up your mood for hookup when meeting a guy, as opposed to causing you to close uo?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:07 PM
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In a LTR even the slip ups become part of a wholesome experience. In hook ups its a big embaressment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:05 PM
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Sentence doesnt make sense 6 long term relations. Now youre engaging in more short term relatoonshops. But at the same time happily married?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:01 PM
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Which is why there are TWO graphs in the other commenters picture. The guy with good potential and guy without
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:43 AM
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Only for husbands who fell in love with her while she was young. By biological design a man being attracted to old women is a disadvantage for gene propagation. Hence alll the hagphiles wasted resources on women who cannot bear children and failed to pass on their genes. The normal man likes women in their fertile prime which increases chances of gene propagation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:16 AM
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Female gaze focuses more on a man's story. Men can gain wealth, maturity, experience, social status with age. Obvioisly not all of them some just waste their lives hence the 2 graphs for type A and type B male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:15 AM
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Women can chase chad. Men can become passport bros. Everyone happy. But i still hear "but those women from 3rd world countries are being exploited by being given the benefits of modern conveniences and much better lifestyle!" For every incel complaining about chad and stacey theres a silent passport bro who just goes where he is desired. Both men and women are choosing who theyre attracted to. Pots shouldnt call kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:11 AM
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When laws favor women over men in any aspect. Thats excessive. If theyre given equal rights, thats fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:57 AM
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South korea provides state subsidies and housing for single women. So many of those single women either date men in secret or stay single to claim the benefits. I wonder who this was aimed to benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:56 AM
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So if an average man goes through all the things you describe word by word will you fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:50 AM
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Women are more interested in excitement than men are interested in peace
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:02 AM
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The natural arrangement for humankind has been Hypergamy excercised by women to seek the most high value men in their awareness Polygyny by the high value men who have options Leftover men join the military for a chance to prove their worth. If emerged victorious they get to rape and pillage the subjugated nation and find themselves a war bride. Otherwise they die out and the problem solves itself. The question is, when barbaric nations attack the civilized nation, are there enough men that are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:49 AM
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The mistake is assuming all those men that are alone, dont want to be alone. For many the juice is not worth the squeeze. Some men just want to have a nice drink and enjoy the sights. If they jump through hoops maybe they get with a girl for a bit. But some want peace. And we shouldnt be labeling them as losers for enjoying their solitude. Its a nice observation though. Lot of the men can, if they want. But they have their own hobbies to enjoy that doesnt need constant emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:30 AM
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Its ironic. Men have an aversion to dressing up for a multitude of reasons even if everyone knows it will increase chances of wooing the ladies. Its actually more related to men caring more about how theyre viewed by fellow men (being called gay) than with women, even when women are certainly a big interest for the single men. For men, acceptance by his brothers is considered more important than being a ladies man. Every person is different of course. When women dress up and put on make up theyr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:41 AM
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Yes, you can sue for emotional distress if someone's intentional or negligent actions caused you significant mental suffering and you can prove the link between their actions and your distress. These lawsuits often require proof of a severe emotional impact, which may be supported by mental health records or testimony from experts Not at all relevent to the situation. You cant sue someone for staring
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:47 PM
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But not the odds of having many children of their own. If youre so smart, you wouldnt want kids because logically they bring nothing but financial drain and emotional burden no? Those who come from wealth also would not want many kids because it will divide the family wealth into smaller pieces and weaken the generational power. So in this sense smartness or logical thinking is not a very good driver of gene propagation. This means it is not special enough gene to survive the test of time. Dumb …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:16 PM
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So by your reasoning, if we require all men to wear sunglasses, this problem will be resolved. Because even if theyre looking, the women wouldnt know if theyre looking or not. The whole scenario is just absurd. Society maintains order when society spends its limited resources on important things like keeping streets safe from muggers and making sure jobs are plentiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:10 PM
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Average US citizen pays just over $500,000 in taxes in their lifetime. $90,000 investment in every new citizen sounds like a sound choice to me. Otherwise you will see birth rates plummet, and put further strain on social security system
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:53 AM
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The government should give a generous sum of money to parents or guardians for every child born until 18, regardless of who is in custody. Around $50k per year. Then abolish requirement for child support. Everyone pays (mostly men because men pay more taxes anyways) through taxes. Edit: i did the math wrong. I meant to say $50k spread out over 18 years. My basis is one south korean province giving the equivalent of $80k per child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:05 AM
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What if the man wanted to raise the kid himself but lost custody
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:04 AM
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No a civilized society operates based on law and order. A consistent and codified set of rules. Not unquantifiable, unsubstantiable feelings. If you can throw people in jail because they made you "feel unsafe" that would lead to ruin of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:31 AM
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Why should anyone care about their feelings? If theyre unsafe, thats an issue. If they feel unsafe, even despite being in a safe environment with actual law and order, then maybe visit a therapist. If someone feels unsafe due to presence of 5G, even withoyt scientific evidence, should we make a law banning 5G? No they can go live somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:12 AM
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So if a man is topless and shows six packs and well toned muscle, in the middle of a big city that also doesnt give womens gaze to linger but we all know how that will turn out. If you dont want people looking, then put a fabric between you and those people. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:09 AM
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Or donate to a sperm bank?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:59 AM
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The practice of levirate marruage, or marrying your brothers wife was common in many cultures but mongols extended it to their comrades in arms. So im assuming it went back very far. Ghengis Khan's (temujin) first wife was notably kidnapped and forcibly wed to a rival tribesman when he was young, and he managed to win her back after defeating the kidnappers. The fact that she was raped and possibly gave birth to someone elses child had no bearing on his love for her. So the penis is not the defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:56 AM
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Maslows hierarchy of needs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:43 PM
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We are mostly talking about liberal western cultures. Otherwise we will be discussing female genital mutilation and polygamy as well. Mongolian warriors had a culture where the men would take on the wives of fallen brothers as a way to honor them by taking care of their women and children. When the man has died doing something noble for their nation, it was actually encouraged to marry their widows and raise their children. Even in modern day, a woman who is a single mother because her husband d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:56 AM
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Case in point. A woman who is a rape survivor or is widow, would not be considered as "defiled" because those are not consequences of her own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:19 AM
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And this is why some women are ok with their man having side pieces?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:11 AM
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So the male version of this line of thinking would be "she cant cook or clean, but she has a nice, kind personality and the sex is great!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:20 AM
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Youre putting a lot of words in my mouth. Ive done no screeching or screaming or hated women over 35. I personally wont marry a woman over 35 because I plan to have children. Others are welcome to. But i doubt many 35 year old men with their finances together actuallly want to marry a 35 uear old woman. If only for the simple reason for wanting healthy children. (Chance of birth defects increase after woman gets older). It will be a huge disservice to the child to risk giving them down syndrome.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:02 AM
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Passport bros exist. There are millions of women across the world with traditional values who want to marry men and have children. Just not in the West. Once my woman bears my children then we pair bond and even after she gets older she remains beautiful because of all the memories we make together. The children are icing on the cake because I would also be very content to provide and protect for the family. This gives more pleasure than banging 20 year olds for a man who has principle and value…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:50 PM
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I have intention of reproducing. So it is relevant to me. For others, even if economic circumstances dont permit reproduction, the biology of wanting to fornicate with the most fertile woman is still wired in most mens brains. Condoms and pills just trick that instinct into thinking it is being fufilled. Simple evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:02 PM
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Then dont be. Meanwhile the men will find women that fit their preferences. You can cry a river about men wanting younger women. It wont change biological preferences. Same as how you cant stop women from wanting men taller, stronger, wealthier than them. Evolutionarily wise, younger women have a longer fertility window. So men with DNA that prefered 50 year old women would have been erased from the gene pool already because the wouldnt have offspring. Also men have had to risk lot of resources …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:59 PM
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The idea is to build memories and affection while youre young, maybe even have children or get married. Its hella less likely to be dumped after that, provided the woman doesnt cause trouble like cheat, nag, disrespect, etc. Men can fall in love. How to get your man to love you is something mothers should teach their daughters more. Not just "youre a strong independent woman who needs no man".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:22 PM
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Higher fertility window. Simple biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:13 PM
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"Date within their economic class" just means "women still marry up with a smaller margin of difference than theyd like" So 30k income woman with 50k income woman is same economic class. But if you asked 50k income woman to marry a 30k income man, she will say "she deserves better"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:45 AM
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Youre putting the blame on men even for womens choices. Not surprised there. When man marries up, then the woman has no reason to be submissive to him. And women fall in love with men they find themselves being submissive to. This thwarts the traditional protector and protected dynamic that have made men and women like each other for millenia. The movie New in Town (2009) shows an interesting dynamic. Corporate executive woman visits a small town to lay off some factory workers. And she meets th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:37 AM
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We are talking about extreme circumstances where almost every guy is an abusive alcoholic. We arent talking about the West, with its army of simps
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:41 AM
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When 99% of the men are abusive, the normal one feels like an angel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:06 PM
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Im talking about when newborns are involved. Sometimes the wife's mother comes to live with the family to help take care of the newborn. Sometimes the husband's. The country is South Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:04 AM
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Well there are a lot of families in my country where the wife stays at home, husband works full time. Kids are sent to school, then after school private academies from 8am to 10pm. The wife handles all the money, eats out, watches TV, hangs out with friends at cafes, complains about how difficult being a SAHM is, how useless their husbands are while spending their husbands money. Chores dont get done until husband returns home (7pmish) so they can do it together. The academy drops off the kid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:57 AM
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So the man needs to have a full time job & share the burden of domestic labor + child rearing even when the wife stays at home? Got it. Oh, and he's not allowed to bring his family members into to house to help the wife. She will still complain about not getting enough help though. But she can bring hers. Or they can hire a maid. I think the woman is the one acting like a child in this scenario. You cant have your cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:51 AM
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And if the father brings his mother into the house to help reduce the workload the wife still gets upset because another woman is encroaching on her sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:31 PM
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So children raised under single dad are screwed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:27 PM
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Youre basically describing Russia. If a man isnt an alcoholic wife beater, he's a catch for Russian women. Which makes it easier for family oriented and provider type Chinese men right across the border to get themselves a Russian wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:38 AM
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Except that women lose their advantage as they grow older while men age like wine. Therefore its more or less balanced
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:18 AM
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Well others can teach him. Not his own girl tho. That defeats the purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:24 AM
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Find your boyfriend a side chick. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:17 PM
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Of course. The act of trying to shape men into good, respectful, nice, feminist men is actually subconsciously a way to vet for the men who have their inner principles and are not swayed by women. Those men are the ones that women will sleep with because theyve passed the test. Never have a woman rewarded a man with sex for being a feminist or doing all the things she says she wants an ideal man to do. Its the ones who do the opposite of what theyre told or expected to do that turns women on. Le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:12 PM
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"No more dick" power move by a man is also possible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:10 PM
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Yeah becayse the prince charming who is both exciting and has stable source of income is very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:09 PM
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If he loves her enough he will And that depends on how successful enough she is in using her feminine charms to motivate the guy to commit. Women have done this for tens of thousands of years. If she fails, it was worth a shot. at least its better than being single for life or stuck in a loveless marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:23 AM
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it doesnt work that way. women are loyal to feelings. if she really wanted her bf to buy her flowers she could have told the boyfriend to buy her flowers and she would get them. but no she wants him to buy her flowers without being told to, from his own volition. it defeats the purpose, telling a guy how to be more fun. he has to be fun to begin with. otherwise i bet what would happen is the woman will just marry the stable man and cheat on him with the fun one. hence the reason i advised agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:13 PM
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i have a female friend who is 30 and broke up with her last long term bf. reason? "he was too good for me" according to her, the guys with their life together and a stable source of income are boring. The guys that she is attracted to dont have their life together nor have a stable job. And even though she has a good career and makes decent money she does not want to be the primary breadwinner in a relationship. I realized she is cooked either way. So I have her some advice. It all depends on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:10 AM
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Abstain until marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:27 AM
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Do what you want Juat dont blame others for your choices
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:18 AM
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The annual feminist symposium delegates got together and voted in favor of a list of healthy masculinity traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:17 AM
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There was a greentext anon story on youtube that basically described an amazing lifehack. Depressed guy who couldnt afford therapy hires a hooker for a fraction of the price and just asks her to listen to him vent about how much his life sucks and when he asks for advice she says "the fuck should i know. If i knew how to get my life together i wont be sucking dick for a living" And that was better than any therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:15 AM
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Next post "AI girlfriends and sexbots cant replace a loving genuine relationship with a real woman" No shit sherlock. This type of reasoning is basically telling starving people "let them eat cake"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:12 AM
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Thats assuming most of normal partners are also not putting up an act for perks in the relationship like financial stability, protection, emotional support, bragging rights to friends, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:00 AM
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In this economy, even $100 is a high ball figure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:58 AM
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Since dawn of time, every man had access to sex in one form or another. Prostitutes are the worlds oldest trade. Even the bible said "It is better to cast your seed in the belly of a whore than to spill it on the ground" As much as society hates prostitution, its a part of human nature that probably will never disappear in the foreseeable future. And prostitutes arent used by just undesirable men. The ultra rich employ prostitutes as well. Instead, theyre not paid to stay. Theyre paid to leave. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:52 AM
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Because the one who asks has to pay for the meal on first date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:21 AM
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I want additional car profiling. What about a Lambo, Mustang, Jeep Wrangler, Hyundai Genesis, Dodge Chrysler, Tesla?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:50 AM
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In this sense it felt like the Woman was using the duty to the party as an excuse to initiate sex, because the society very strictly repressed desire as an act of rebellion. Hence, women would not be able to act like they enjoyed sex at all. The husband is the one who feels awfully dreadful about having to go through the process with a woman who makes it very clear she also hates the act, but still keeps initiating nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:24 AM
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George Orwell's 1984 reference They must, she said, produce a child if they could. So the performance continued to happen, once a week quite regulariy, whenever it was not impossible. She even used to remind him of it in the morning, as something which had to be done that evening and which must not be forgotten. She had two names for it. One was 'making a baby', and the other was 'our duty to the Party
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:16 AM
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What about when sex is Duty to the Party?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:02 AM
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I see a post like this every now and then and then other posts complaining that bf of x number of years who dont propose are aholes and should be dumped. I get so many recommended posts from r/ waiting to be wed. Go ahead and post this there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:20 AM
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Its custom for women to be subservient to and obey their husbands. This is why it was custom for men to go through all the legwork to propose and provide. In the modern day, if we want equality then there is no reason for women to not propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:50 PM
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Why do you need a man to propose to you? Again youre assuming gender stereotypes. The woman can propose to the man instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:00 AM
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Both monogamy and polygyny has coexisted in tandem in humanity. In short, polygyny has thrived for tens of thousands of years in primitive, matrilineal, hunter gatherer societies. This was the natural state of humankind for most of human history. (Primitive communism was the economic system back then) However, monogamy (and patrilineal) supported more complex hierarchies and communities with larger populations, with more intensive agriculture. (Due to inheritance issues and ownership of land and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:50 AM
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Slippery slope there. We are talking about specifically, getting horny from an image of a beautiful woman that a man didnt have a relationship with yet. Which is perfectly normal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:06 AM
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Regardless of values, pretty much every man or boy gets horny from pictures of women they never met irl or have relationship with. A high school teen watches Transformers and jerks off to Megan Fox. OMG hes a creep! No hes a fully functioning male who has desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:05 AM
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They would be stay at home if they could. But they cant. Even if there is a woman that is ok with him staying home at first, truth is she will grow resentful and start to disrespect the man for being "weak" and useless. If not her girlfriends or family members will start nagging her and saying she deserves better. Because in the end women tend to view a marriage as transactional. What can she get out of the relationshjp that improves her life? Rather than valuing the relationship intrinsically. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:01 AM
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I dont think there are that many men who dont want to be provided for if they can be a sahh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:56 AM
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Well no shit only a subset of couples in a relationship get married
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:52 AM
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So after marrying the man of your dreams and having 4 kids with them, he admits having touched his weenie after looking at a photo of you on social media because he foind you sexy as hell before you became a couple and its instant divorce. No wonder men dont let themselves be vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:51 AM
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Those that married their woman and had children with them I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:47 AM
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Sad you made it a question for redpill only. Im purple pill who agrees with bits from both sides. I am planning to be the sole provider once I marry my gf. Many men wouldnt mind this. But she has to be a special enough to want to commit to her. And you can get the list of qualities to satisfy this requirement from asking pretty much any man if you want to know. But you probably dont care because immediately the response is "what would I get in return for being this special person?". So in the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:46 AM
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He literally described a real life incident. How is it a paranoia
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:43 AM
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Usually the women themselves are against providing for a man who stays at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:42 AM
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Passport bros disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:41 AM
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500 days of summer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:32 PM
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Are you in ukraine? How do u know ppl get killed in war
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:47 AM
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Brothels were still more expensive than porn. Also came with greak risk such as STDs. To marry a virgin was the biggest prize for men for millenia. But every virgin was guarded by protective fathers and brothers and traditional customs who would vet for a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:11 AM
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Personal preference and emotions are caused by biology
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:11 AM
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Men will put more effort than women for sex thats for sure. If payment is in form of time, effort, attention, etc, not necessarily money, then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:08 AM
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Porn skews the reward mechanism in the brain. Traditionally, sexual gratification was the reward after hard fought battles or a project of great effort. However when the brain is tricked into recieving the reward without any effort, the motivation to self improve lowers. A man who wants to achieve great things should quit porn. But its easier said than done. Its like quitting the occasional cookie or ice cream from a female POV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:52 AM
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And we can ask why. I believe this is due to biological differences. Women are givers of birth, and sex is originally a means of procreation before condoms abd birth control were invented. Therefore, women have becone evolutionarily wired to want only the genes of men who have proven their value, through various means. Men on the other hand, are wired to be less selective about who will bear their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:49 AM
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One can ask whether this phenomenon of women rarely, if ever, being willing to pay for sex is caused by abundance of options, or simply their lower desire for sex for sex sake. It matters who theyre having sex with, not just appearance wise. Women tend to hate Dick pics from strangers. It matters who the dick is attached to. Men dont mind boob pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:44 AM
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So would you pay anything for sex? Whether its time, money, effort, etc. Would you sacrifice something you have, for the sake of obtaining sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:40 AM
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Theyre called your dad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:55 PM
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Guys need to stop being hung over that 1 girl. See the world. There are millions of girls that are awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:33 PM
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Its like saying black people in 1930s couldnt own land. If I show you proof they owned land, you respond "because 1 black person onwed land, the KKK didnt exist?" Thats not what Im saying and youre using straw man arguments. I just wanted to rectify a common historical misconception. No one is arguing anything other than what was stated. I didnt say women had equal rights to men in the early to mid 1900s. Only that they could totally own bank accounts. Otherwise Marylin Monroe wouldnt have had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:33 PM
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Idk what country your grandparents lived in but women could own property in US and Europe for the past 100+ years. Even in "Their Eyes Were Watching God", a black woman in the 1930s is mentioned as having $9000 in the bank. People on the internet are taking things way out of proportion because some banks in the past discriminated against gender. (Or race for that matter). There was no law that forbade all women from having bank accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:52 AM
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Thats because the women were attracted to masculine men who have go get em attitude. If the women married submissive, feminine men who are content to stay at home this would not be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:43 AM
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The boring answer to why birth rate dropped is because of invention of condoms, birth control, and abortion. We outsmarted biology. So over time the only people who get born will have parents who have strong urge to reproduce, and not just have sex. That will pass down the pronatalist gene and the problen can fix itself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:41 AM
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Asking for dna test is like asking to see your partners texts. Partner can get angry on both cases even if they have nothing to hide, because it feels like youre getting accused. Its better if the state mandates the test for hospital upon birth, so no one gets offended. Otherwise, just marry a chaste woman with low body count, who actually is loyal to you and wouldnt dream of cheating. Which is what many men want to do anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:38 AM
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Because those women actually respect the man in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:33 AM
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But they care if guys they wouldnt give time of day have success as passport bro apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:08 AM
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Its a matter of relative degree. You can be more rebellious and still follow orders to a certain extent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:41 PM
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What about them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:22 AM
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All boys schools are more well behaved and obedient. Militaries, especially infantry units, are all male. Allows for more efficient hierarchy formation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:22 AM
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Thanos' finger is about 4cm wide and 16cm long, putting it at the approximate size of an avarage girth and above avarage length penis If he is being generous I think you can
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:04 PM
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Thanos
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:51 PM
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Katy Perry says Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:49 PM
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You cant change your gender. (Biologically). So its sexist to only prefer 1 gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:48 PM
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No one is pointing out how boys do worse in sports. Its the indoor school studies that is the problem. Sports and military builds physical strength, which is a masculine domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:20 PM
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Wanting princess treatment while also wanting equality is exactly that isnt it? Im not saying theres anything wrong with that. I treat my gf like a princess. But thats because she gives me respect like a prince. If someone claims to want equality but only picks and chooses, thats going to make people scratch heads. In my country, we have a term for that. Buffeminism In south korea only the men are forced to serve a military term. The femininists never suppprt a female draft. But still behave jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:19 PM
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He may have found it odd, but it wasnt a dealbreaker. He didnt break up with her over that. However for many women, a man that does not lead in the relationship and take them out on dates is a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:17 PM
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And the dutiful soldier spends more time frolicking in the grass than reading books indoors
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:08 PM
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Being a stay at home wife is not unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:07 PM
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No one is stopping her from taking her man for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:06 PM
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Emma Watson is a well known feminist who also says that a man has to be chivalrious. You get literally doublethink articles like this explaining away why youre not being a hyprocrite (you are) https://www.bustle.com/articles/68516-emma-watson-said-feminism-chivalry-arent-mutually-exclusive-heres-why-shes-right Special treatment or equal treatment? Choose 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:29 AM
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Boys do better if theyre segregated by gender and there are no girls to impress
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:05 AM
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Women are wonderful effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:04 AM
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For men, Rebels and nonconformists and risk takers, and physically active men who do what they want over what theyre told, were more likely to reproduce. Simply because women would choose to mate with them over the yes men, and the quiet types. Hence the men you see today are born with such
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:01 AM
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Yes, at least for superficial aspects because she never wore makeup, dressed to impress, etc even on day 1. The only thing that might have been 110% is personality. That i expect can change. But we should encourage people being more themselves to begin with so its sustainable. Thats the best for all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:41 AM
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Glad im not dating you How about some appreciation for our fathers that toiled away to provide for us for decades of their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:38 AM
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This is basically the same thing as Hoe Math's womens attraction matrix. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:34 AM
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Being able to be emotionally vulnerable withoht being judged
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:58 AM
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Maybe not in your country. In mine, around 50% of families/couples are single income. Also men are expected to provide the housing. So its not a fanfic at all. A good woman motivates a good man to go above and beyond to provide a good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:28 AM
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Lets make wealth/income gaps illegal too. If you make less than 50%+$7k than your partner, you cant get married or have sex. Thrown in jail if break the law. Income gaps cause financial abuse! Its literally prostitution!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:52 AM
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Hard to say because a man usually self develops. Its a matter of when. So if a man was indecisive, immature, inexperienced, unsure, thats a red flag and i wont advise to marry him now. But 5-10 years later he may be a different person. Also i need to know what youre looking for. Some red flags i can name, im assuming if youre looking for long term relationship, marriage with kids, is: Criminal record. Goes without saying. Even minor things should be scrutinized. Self destructive: Smokes weed, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:01 AM
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Yes The winning male reproductive strategy in evolutionary biology was spreading his seed as much as possible and the committing resources to only the women most likely to stay loyal and chaste. By winning, I mean most likely to increase representation in the gene pool, which shapes how modern humans brains are wired. So in the natural state, a given man has inclination to pump and dump as many promiscuous women as possible and then marry the virgin. The winning female reproductive strategy is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:48 AM
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A man who can attract men on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:40 AM
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What in saying is, just because a man finds a woman attractive and lovely, doesnt guarantee that he wont cheat on her, avoid marriage, leave for someone who is even more attractive and lovely, etc. Its like saying a smart, hardworking person will get a nice well paying job. Sounds good in theory but we all know it doesnt happen a lot of the time. The OP asking the wrong question. She describes herself, and asks if she is attractive to men. Because I can tell you if she posts an instagram pic she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:37 AM
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A man wants peace in the home. Especially when he is the primary breadwinner fighting battles in the outside world to bring home the bacon. The least he expects is respect. He does not want to fight another battle at home after a long day of work, to "defend his position" against a quarrelsome partner. The home should be a safe haven where he feels relaxed and supported. The man takes pride in doing what is traditionally expected of good men in society. Making sure there is a roof over the famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:31 AM
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Its neither a sufficient nor necessary condition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:13 AM
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Thats only half the story. Yes this applies to the type of women men want to date or fuck. But not marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:02 AM
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Just as women say they want 1 thing and react to another, men do the same. Check which woman is in a happy long term relationship and learn from that person. Same advice can go to guys. Just as women understand women, men understand men. Its why it was usually fathers that gave advice to daughters on what kinds of guys to avoid in the olden times. (Same for mothers and sons) Every man has different preferences. The question is, what are the preferences of a man you want specifically? The prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:56 AM
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No probs. Im just starting a conversation. So a woman wanting a dominant man = Totally fine. Its a preference. Man wanting submissive woman = Fragile ego and dumb AF? I can already imagine the inverse. Woman wanting submissive man: Again, totally fine. Its 2025! Who are men afraid of women taking charge? Man wanting dominant woman: He has mommy issues. Point is, there is a double standard. Men arent allowed to want anything. But in the end, a real men doesnt give a shit what people think. Like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:38 AM
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So having a preference for submissive women doesnt make me misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:40 PM
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Date or not. Simple as that. Its not marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:30 AM
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Yes: Different race, different religion, churchgoing, 1000 miles away, quiet, talkative, taller than me, wants to be stay at home mom, lives with parents, dislikes video games, 6ft3, same name as mom, slept with best friend No: Smokes, asexual, alcoholic, OF, 50+ partners, sorority, in the military, 200 pounds, Maybe: -2 kids. Depends on the context. If she is a widow, thats fine. If its a divorce or birth out of wedlock, hard pass. -Waiting to have sex until marriage is ok if she is a virgin. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:28 AM
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Millionare man who voted for trump because tax cuts for the rich benefits him, and in a free society you do what is in your own best interest. But he also has a charity organization to provide help for the disadvantaged. Vs Mcdonalds part timer who smokes weed and has a messy room but pats himself on the back for being a good person because he voted for Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:51 AM
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Well its easier to blame other people for things that are probably your fault. If youre a woman and dont get approached. There can be many reasons. Youre not pretty enough Men are scared Number 2 feels less hurtful than number 1. Women dont like their feelings getting hurt. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:39 PM
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This is simply what fathers told sons for generations since time immemorial. Mans gotta work hard, be strong, smart, disciplined, emotionally mature, build resources, etc. And mothers told daughters to be kind, supportive, amicable, chaste, loyal. The 2 types of people met and started a healthy family. Now modern socety tells men they can be vulnerable and let women take the wheel, and underachieve because muh patriarchy. And it tells women they need to be boss babes that dont need no man and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:43 AM
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In the bible, Men are the leaders women are the led. Nowhere does it say women are inferior. They take a back seat in the relationship yes. But its also true that most women want to be led by a strong, responsible, mature, man. It motivates men to be in their masculine frame, and allows women to be in their feminine frame, which leads to harmony. When roles are reversed, where woman has to lead in fhe relarionship and provide and protect the man, the woman does not feel safe. Women often say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:24 PM
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So the only requirement is NOT do certain things. Whats easier? Doing something or not doing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:37 PM
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The Bible presents a call for men to embody both strength and gentleness, with virtues like courage, initiative, and self-sacrificial love being prominent. Additionally, men are encouraged to pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, and love, while also being gentle. The Bible also emphasizes the importance of men leading, protecting, and providing for their families, both physically and spiritually. The Bible outlines several expectations for women, emphasizing faithfulness to God, modesty, good…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:29 PM
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The point is, bible sets out strict rules for both men and women on how to treat each other. Modern society only puts rules on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:36 AM
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Oh no, this disproves the cause and effect relationship! What shall we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:35 AM
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Or maybe healthier and wealthier men are more likely to get a woman, and poor sick men are more likely to be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:34 AM
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Women will never on average, earn more than men, because women are simply not expected to be the provider, and hence they on average, dont need to. Being in college isnt a guarantee of higher wages. In fact its often a guarantee of massive debt. The only thing that can force women to make equal or higher income than men are government programs or affirmitive action that require quotas on hiring women or supporting women owned businesses by law, using tax money collected mostly from men's incomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:29 AM
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Ultimately its up to the couple what the boundaries are. If the woman doesnt like being told what to do, then she can break up. Its not against the law to leave. Same for guys. If the girl doesnt listen to him, he can leave. If either party wants to stay in the relationship more than the other, then they should probably listen. If the guy has more to lose by breaking up, he doesnt have a say in what the girl wears. If the girl has more to lose, then she better listen. Simple as that. I have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:17 AM
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Its also due to urbanization. Difficult for kids to touch grass when you live in an apartment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:08 AM
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Of course there are conditions to both cases. For the man who doesnt want a promiscuous woman, you also have to ask, who is the main breadwinner for this couple, and will they also have kids? The man who was formerly promiscuous, but has high level of resources and is willing to be the sole provider, may want to settle down with a chaste woman to start a family with. Since he will provide everything for the woman so she can have a child in comfort, it can be reasonable to expect chastity so as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:05 AM
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So is a woman's desire to marry a man who makes more money than her despite wanting to be equals
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:04 PM
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Its always been high and it always will be. Having children was never about cost and benefit. What is the ideal society in your mind when human society can sustain itself? Men also have had to work because being a SAHD was never a choice for them. Men did not all like being soldiers or farmers either. Everyone had an important role
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:06 AM
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Actually birth rate is higher when what you describe is actually the case. When women cant leave with half of assets, she actually is motivated to put effort into the relationship and a man is content as long as he is respected in the house, his stomach is full and balls empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:12 AM
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Its as if people dont make theoretical models that assume certain conditions that arent necessarily reflective of real life to gain useful insight. Are you the type that sits in economics 101 and tells the professor, "but in the real world, there is no such thing as perfect competition!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:08 AM
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If a woman is self aware, then it can be navigated because the woman also loses options as she grows older. Meanwhile men can still be attractive to a wide range of men if they keep in shape after getting older. So if the woman decided the man still has more options than her then its workable and she will remain happy and pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:34 PM
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Well im not taking about level of attractiveness. Simply availability of options. Because women are highly affected by pre selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:53 PM
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I would say everyone follows a bell curve. So generalizations can hold even with exceptions. My girl admits to a lot of petty feelings that I mentioned. I had a more idealistic view of women before I dated one. Then I learned that women follow a different set of internal rules. Im not doing the negging. Even my own girl seems to constantly check if I have other options and her demeanor changes for the better when she decides I do. Its tiring but it is what it is. All the women ive seen have disr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:50 PM
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Engaged to one. First and last partner ill ever need
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:35 PM
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Which is why i said "if you had to choose". Realistically, since women dont have to choose in the modern era, of course they just stay single if option 3 is unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:34 PM
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When there is no woman out there worth committing to, then men are gonna keep searching. Youre preaching to the choir though. Ive already found her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:00 AM
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Maybe this is why people usually married before having sex. Just a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:56 AM
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The dealbreaker is probably not the body. But personality. So the saddest part is, you passed the looks test. But screwed it up by having an unpleasant personality, which would have been very easy to remedy if you listened to other people when they talk about what a man actually wants in their life long partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:55 AM
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Women like being pursued but pursuing loses attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 AM
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It takes 2 to tango. You used each other
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 AM
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Always found this issue ironic. Society told men to "listen to women". Women: "No, not like that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:49 AM
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So basically the sex strike after abortion ban
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:47 AM
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When given the choice between Non cheater. Doesnt have options. Cheater, has many options. Non cheater. Has many options Choice 3 is the best for women of course. They want a "catch" that chooses to stay loyal despite their value. But between number 1 and number 2, if they HAD to choose, they would date the cheater that has options. This is because women are wired to seek the best genes. For men, they prefer number 1. Even if less attractive, than the cheater, the loyal woman is better for build…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:41 AM
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We, or I, already live in that world. Nothing stops me from chasing pussy and getting one. But even if i had women handed on a silver platter i wouldnt cheat on my long term partner. Pleasure from sex is fleeting. What is the point of sex if your seed is wasted inside a condom? I want the better thing, which is building a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:37 AM
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It depends on my stage in life. When young and adventurous, I liked intellectually challenging and adventurous women. When having gotten older having a stable career with plenty of stress outside, I realized I wanted peace of mind in the home and a supportive long term partner, who I would be motivated to provide for. Green flags include Sense of humor: I want laughter and and smiles in my life. Loyalty: No need to worry about raising another mans child. Perspective and Self awareness: Being abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:54 AM
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If she gives birth and chooses to be a SAHM due to the desire to raise children, plus physical changes in her body that makes 9 to 5 grind difficult, then suddenly youre going to lose attraction for her and find another sexy career woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:46 AM
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He can go to r/sluttyconfessions so technically hes in the right app. Wrong sub
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:44 AM
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There is no solution to this except marriage broker agencies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:43 AM
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In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:40 AM
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You comparing Korean women with korean men. Im comparing korean women with women fom Japan, US, France Gemany, etc. Korea has 2nd lowest domestic hours for women, 1st lowest domesric hours for me. Which scenario are you more miserable as a woman? Woman spends 3 hours man spends 45 mins. Woman spends 6 hours. Man spends 5 hours. Idk about you but i rather spend less hours on domestic labor by an absolute measure, regardless of how much my partner spends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:38 AM
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Do you know what rate or per capita measures even means? South korea has lower population than japan and us. Obviously the avsolute numbers are lower. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country Korea is 21 abortions per 1000. Japan is 6 per 1000. US is 14.4 per 1000. The facts are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:34 AM
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Sorry about the delayed reply, but how do you propose we do anything other than "let something get by in other places"? Spread awareness? Like thats gonna help. All talk no action. Drop bombs on the country which will lead to deaths of innocent civilians? I want utopia as much as you do but you have to realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:31 AM
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The only real difference is, you can have a family with one type, and not with the other type. Love for men was always conditional, unless from their mothers. Only things that can be loved unconditionally are women, children, and pets. But the core difference, that of continuing your lineage, gave normal women an edge over prostitutes. You dont marry prostitutes because its always been important to ensure your children are yours. Before dna tests, a womans purity or low n count has been the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:38 AM
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Well youd be surprised how even married men would go for prostitutes when they hit dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:30 AM
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Why bring up other countries? It is their way of life. You can choose not to live there if you dont want to. In many countries men are forced to serve in the military. Some countries are traditional, some are liberal. And there is a reason for that. The USA spent over a trillion dollars trying to keep Afghanistan democratic against the taliban, but the muslim fundamentalists won in the end, and women are not even allowed to sing. Whose fault is that? Not mine. Not the average US adult male eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:19 AM
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Youre reaching. Im only saying that the claim "women were only recently allowed to have bank acount" is false. I did not say womens suffrage was not needed. Read my edits for for background.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:26 PM
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There is a difference between being prohibited by law, vs voluntary choice by a private entity. Women not being allowed to vote is an example of real legal discrimination. Just as some banks did not serve black people, some banks did not serve women. It doesnt mean blacks were unable to have their own bank accounts. (There were black owned banks). Yes they were discriminated against. Thats not being argued. Hence the statement "women were only recently allowed to have bank accounts" is false. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:20 PM
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People keep saying women couldent own bank accounts until recently as if its fact, but thats false information. As early as 1864, women could own banks in the US. In 1974 a new law prohibited banks from discriminating against women. But before then, plenty of banks allowed women to have bank acounts, such as women-owned banks which existed early as 1919. Thats not "recently". This was back in the day when modern bank accounts were relatively new to the ordinary people, banks had many issues of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:29 AM
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Arent women scared of being in a nontraditional relationship? (Whatever that means).What if your partner is a serial killer? Or if he is secretly hiding AIDS, or is a pedophile. What if he just intends to use you for pump and dump, and never marry, so he can find a new gf and leave you old and unmarried for life, and denied the chance to have children in a stable family? So many concerns. If you had to worry about everything its safer to stay single for eternity. Wild take, but some people belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:18 AM
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No one is doubting that. But that minimum level of physical attraction is broad enough to cover half of the male population. So if youre average or better, you have a shot. If youre below average, you still have a shot if you work out and dress well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:59 AM
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Depends on the situation. If you meet each other in a game, and only saw each others avatars for years, and fell in love for personality, then even with average looks she can still love you. This is because you technically passed the first test (looks) virtually, and emotionally bonded. Same applies to other online platforms, reddit even. Another way to pass the first test is special circumstances. Getting stuck in a distressful event (marooned ship, tsunami) or a period of time in isolation (ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:49 AM
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If anything, i doubt many women would want to be "the best that he could ever get", which is literslly what first choice means. (Best woman amongst his options). Women want a "catch", meaning a man who could have gone for other, more attractive women, but still chose to be with her. If she knew he only had worse options other than her, she would likely lose respect for him and act as such. Men on the other hand, may not care, or prefer a woman whose first choice is him. This is because there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:40 AM
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The female gaze is more than just looks. Its about the story behind the man, his future potential, the holistic assessment of his value and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:03 AM
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Plot twist, she makes 500k a year and looks like a top celebrity, has a nice attitude, and can hire maids, but choses not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:00 AM
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Youre saying that in modern day american public schools, girls and boys are taught different things because of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:57 AM
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Still can "got it" after 50
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:49 PM
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The best way to measure who has more leverage or power in the relationship is, who is more willing to walk away (in case there is conflict of opinions), implying they have better or equal options while the other does not. Generally, if the man has no other options, as in his current partner is the best that he can manage to be with, and the woman knows this, she will hold him in contempt and will lead to problems in the relationship, as she loses respect for him and treats him thusly. If the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:46 AM
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This is the exact scenario i see in almost all my Kdramas. And theyre all binged watched by mostly women who get super emotionally invested in the characters. I dont think the show will sell if it didnt ellicit any kind of emotional reaction from such scenes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:33 AM
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Below is different from status. The millionare might think he is higher status than the waitress. If he thinks she is below him, he wont marry he either. But if he finds something he can respect about her, he can. Same can be true if gender was swapped. A female CEO can fall for the broke musician. Because he is following his passion with determination. She respects him, and doesnt see him as below her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:07 AM
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Its also what im saying. Women want to be equals with a man who has more total amount of various factors that make them "better". Tangible and intangible attributes, assets, etc included. She doesnt want to be equals with someone she deems of lower status. (Not just financially speaking, but maturity, strength, etc) Its not a bad thing just how it is. Women being smart. The man usually accepts because every man's weakness is a kind, caring, beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:58 PM
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South korea japan taiwan singapore arent communist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:55 PM
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The desire to procreate is definitely linked to the genome. And marriage is a good platform to have kids, becuase 2 parents are better than 1
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:33 PM
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People who dont marry will be less likely to leave offspring. People who marry more likely to reproduce. Those with DNA that encourages marriage will be over represented in the gene pool. Marriage will stay because of evolutionary darwinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:16 PM
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Women want a capable man that can lead them. Over an incapable man who is led by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:12 PM
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You can both be vulnerable but i doubt 50 50. Realistically it will be like 30-70 or 20-80. Men being allowed to be vulnerable at a less proportion of the time without giving the woman the ick. Women want to have an egalitarian relationship to a man who is objectively "better than them".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:11 PM
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Basically Aragorn from LOTR
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:09 PM
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The mongols literally conquered all of Russia. And they founded the Yuan Dynasty in China. Not chinese per se, but a closer ethnicity to East Asians than Kazakhs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:08 PM
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South korea has the OECDs highest abortion rate. So youre telling me they are still having sex with men they hate lmao. Or is it immaculate conception 24% of Korean women are single as opposed to 51% of American women. Which country has more incels now? https://www.chosun.com/english/national-en/2024/10/31/L6UAF3AKBRCEDHFEJU4OB6M4RA/#:~:text=By%20gender%2C%2034.2%25%20of%20men,a%209.3%20percentage%20point%20difference. https://fortune.com/2023/03/18/record-number-american-women-single-costs/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:04 PM
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Get your head out of the sand. All across industrialized east asia. China Korea Japan Taiwan Singapore, etc. The femicide rate per capita and death of women via domestic violence is much lower than the USA. Youre telling me theyre all fudging their numbers. Or maybe East Asia is just more safer for women and westerners cant accept it because of their racist prejudice. In my country South Korea, a woman can pass out drunk in the middle of Seoul at 3am and no one even lays a finger on her. Try doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:02 PM
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Clearly you dont know many East Asian families in the modern era. All the families in Korea I know, the mother's parents move in with them to help raise the kids. So its the husband that ends up providing for the in laws. Song Joong Ki who famously married a British actress, lives with the wife's mother in Korea who helps take care of their newborn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:59 PM
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China is one of Russias only allies with a decent economy and global influence. If anything Putin depends on China to keep russia afloat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:57 PM
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More civil or not. Are those white men willing to commit to 1 woman and settle down and marry them? Or just pump and dump? Are they richer than the top 10% of china and can provide a comparable lifestyle? (Street safety, convenient mass transit, cheap food, etc). Everything is holistic. Dont make it a race thing. Eastern europeans were colonized by central asian nomads for hundreds of years. Also the USSR promoted racial equality. To them, there is not much difference (race wise) white or asian.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:55 PM
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You wont find many western media coverage on this because it runs counter to their narrative. But if you do a google or youtube search of "china new divorce settlement law" or something aling the lines you get a lot of citizen journalism coverage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:51 PM
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Well no shit. Any country without a female majority parliament is basically patriarchial. Literally 99% of the world. China has a whole town where women are famously the leaders however. Even then youre generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:24 AM
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Clearly you have not been to an east asian country. They got many issues like overwork but crime and homelessness isnt one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:18 AM
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South Korea sitting at 2nd lowest domestic labor by women in OECD and worlds lowest birth rate. You think non Asian cultures like East Europe or South America doesnt push gender stereotypes on women? It depends on the country's HDI. Literally every country has expectations for gender. On a spectrum. Asia is 55% of the world population. Youre being extremely generalistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:17 AM
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There is 1.3 billion chinese people. Even the top 10% of china is almost the whole population of Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:14 AM
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And thats a generalization. South korean women perform 2nd LOWEST amount of domestic labor among women in the OECD. If youre in any qestern country except sweden you actually do more domestic labor as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:08 AM
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Not Russia per se, but this article covers Ukraine, Russia, and other east european countries which are popular source of mail order brides for chinese men. Ignore the sensationalist Vice news portrayal of internet trolls , and you can assume what probably happened. Lot of women lost their homes due to Russo Ukrainian war. Lot of chinese men living in comfort able to provide for them. https://www.vice.com/en/article/chinese-obsession-ukrainian-women-russia-invasion/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:06 AM
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Valid opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:11 PM
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Usually much of wealth is earned after marriage unless he is much older
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:10 PM
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Calling Asian cultures bullshit is a gross generalization and uncalled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:09 PM
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Actually russian women are marrying chinese men in droves. No one is shutting it down. You seem to have wishful thinking based on racial prejudice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:08 PM
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Source that women are abused more in china? Domestic violence for women is 1/4 in china and in US. Nearly identical. I dont see the point of the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:06 PM
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Check out the rates of death by domestic violence for women in America vs China.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:09 AM
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Russia next door with surplus of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:08 AM
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Your generalization is racist and incorrect. In southern china, its the men who are the primary cooks in the household, despite also being the primary financial provider. Chinese men are known to be of the most considerate to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:07 AM
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Then it shouldnt upset many people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:04 AM
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Maybe the men believed in equality. A young fit man with low body count and a decent income wants a young fit woman with low body count and decent income.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:08 AM
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Maybe instead of gaslighting a man for having healthy natural instincts, communicate with him as to how to improve the situation. For example offer a handjob and lots of kisses. If you cant be bothered to do that then maybe rethink if youre compatible with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:05 AM
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Men have always been expendable. When a family or tribe faces danger its the men who throw themselves in harms way to protect their loved ones. If a caveman family gets attacked by a sabertoothed cat, the man sacrifices himself to buy time for wife and kids to get away. The woman might be saddened and grieve for a while, but lasting grief is not evolutionary advantageous. So she has to be more easily able to move on and find a new man to protect and provide for the family that is now without a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:59 AM
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Its possible to become rich doing crpyto but not recommended because its unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:43 PM
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You can do both. Live with parents and make male friends, play sports, karate, etc. No sex until move out tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:42 PM
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They can stay in their parents basement until 40
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:13 AM
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A survey in USC campus said around half of all women wanted a partner that made more money than them and the other half wanted a partner that made around the same as them. 0% wanted someone who made less than them. So a man needs to make equal or higher than a woman. Women are increasingly making more money. And if you omit the older and unattractive women that arent considered, a man has very slim options unless he gets money and status
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:12 AM
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No but without instinctual desire to secure a mate someday (or highly selective nature of women in general) likely many of these men would not have gotten out of their parents basement and explored what they were capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:07 AM
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It is by design of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:03 AM
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Not necessarily. But wanting a partner that has less likelihood of leaving does play a part in choosing someone with less than 10/10 looks for some men who could have gone for higher. For example a man who could pull the most beautiful women and bang them may still want to only commit to a 8/10 if he feels insecure about his woman cheating on him or leaving him. The benefits of a woman smitten with you and acting affectionate because of the looks gap can bring enough peace of mind that it actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:34 AM
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As i said before in another post about this topic, the disgust that women express at the idea of men theyre not attracted to, getting the opportunity to marry and start families with foreign women is not out of jealousy. Its evolutionary instinct for women to feel disgust at men who they deem unfit for reproduction, hence continuation of his genes, to be doing just that. Finding ways to reproduce. This can seem illogical because these below average men dont actually affect a random woman's life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:21 AM
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Lmao this pretty much debunks the joke that passport bros cant get a woman in his own turf. Theres plenty of guys who divorced their local wives to find a more compatible foreign woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:14 AM
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Thats like saying people who buy japanese cars only do so because they cant afford a ford mustang. Its up to everyone's preference. Maybe some people want an imported brand new car with better fuel efficiency when the same price gets you a used car that chuggs gas thats produced domestically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:10 AM
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Guys always seek the best bang for the buck. If you get the same amount of respect and loyalty from a woman if you spend 100k a year vs 30k a year, then they will go for the one that only needs 30k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:07 AM
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If as a man you: Sexualize women and youre a predatory creep Dont view women sexually at all then youre gay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 11:43 PM
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Sounds about right Would you say baldness and aging is also similar when it comes to men and women? Man balding is similar to woman aging Its ok if it happens after marriage but not before
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:37 AM
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The issue is, i doubt the OP would have been attracted to a man who had never dated a girl before. So its tough to find the perfect man who has charm and confidence but didnt excercise his options
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:36 AM
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No! All the harem anime lied to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:29 AM
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What about fatness in men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:28 AM
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Each gender has their pros and cons. Men are built stronger and without the downsides of periods and childbirth. Hence society finds ways to encourage benevolent sexism to level the field. For example, chivalry, ladies first, etc Problem arises when people take consideration for granted and demand equal outcome without equal responsibility Then both genders might as well be treated like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:25 AM
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I was half joking and exaggeration. I know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:05 AM
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Hence the saying youth is wasted on the young. At 40 many men have women lined up to smash but he cant get it up. At 20 the guy is driving himself crazy wanting to fuck but he's broke and got no game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:58 PM
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Dont marry someone who has these kinds of worries or makes your worry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:42 PM
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So is it ok to have sex with other people then? Or are you essentially blueballed for life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:40 PM
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Men have more intriguing things to focus on after they have a healthy relationship. Whether its going fishing, hunting, fixing their car/motorcycle, making model kits for historic combat vehicles, DYI projects, video games, airsoft, golfing, gym, etc. All of which dont involve women. Men want a wife, family, stable and rewarding job, a group of bros to hang with, no drama, regular sex, good food that isnt too expensive, some hobbies, clean house, respect, and loyalty from the family. They dont n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:57 AM
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For sex, not for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:52 AM
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Young men can learn by sleeping with older women (hagmaxxing). Men in 20s and women in 40s roughly have similar SMV, so this is a convenient arrangement. But the young men usually dont seek to settle down with a middle aged woman in long term. So then when he gains experience and becomes late 20s he can match with a woman who is younger and less experienced, and lead her in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:58 AM
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Its safe to say that most women want the man to lead her in the bedroom. Same as wanting him to be a good kisser. And leading takes experience. Virgins lack experience. And hence virgins are not what women are looking for. Its not a dealbreaker. By contrast, men dont mind if the woman is a virgin. A woman lacking experience or skill is rarely a negative factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:51 AM
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More like, women are too embaressed to tell men exactly what they want him to do, and its just easier to just blame his lack of experience for bad sex. Every woman can literally be on top and take control of the movements. Theoretically there is no reason a woman should complain when in an equal society they have the same power to make sex enjoyable for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:41 AM
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Except when men with little sexual experience are criticized for their lack of experience, and therefore skill, in pleasing their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:15 AM
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No, men who can think with their brains and not their dick maintain a code to not let women in the way of their camadarie. But not all men have that restraint. For a long time it was taboo to bring women on board a ship because it distracts the men from their tasks which could be life threatening. I dont blame women. I blame men. Thats why men need male only spaces like boy scouts, especially when theyre young, and havent learned how to act mature, become more confident, and build social groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:08 AM
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Some billionares like Jeff Bezos is unmarried. The high value men that arent married still have women that flock to them and offer wife like services, so its actually impossible to conclude from any study, that having an actual stamp on the marriage papers adds to or detracts from a man's well being. Many marriages are transactional. If the woman is getting money in return for any loss of her well being then again we cant say the marruage was not in her favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:02 AM
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Limitless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:59 AM
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Is it 2% or 10%? Also how many were not oroven false, but were false? Meaning there is a guy rotting away in jail and lost his friends and family for a crime he did not commit? If there was a hole in a box where if you stick your hand in, there is a 10% chance your hand gets cut off, is it irrational to be worried about sticking your hand in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:42 AM
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Queerhotelguide is a source? Of course LGBT is exempt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:39 AM
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Any public institution that bars women from participating is illegal. Sure you can create private groups. But it takes one guy in that group to be a simp and bring a girl in and it falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:37 AM
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Group of guys create a space for themselves. Have loads of fun, get along well, thrive. Some girls enter the space. Disunity ensues, for some reason everything falls apart. The space isnt whst it used to be, as now everyone is focused on flirting or politics, or people getting offended for the smallest things. All the original men who isnt a horny simp leaves so it becomes boring, and the girls look for other spaces to join. How many times have this happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:33 AM
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There is always a bell curve for everything. 25% of men are subs but over 90% of women are subs. So not everyone will get what they want unfortunately. There is higher demand for dom men and dom women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:13 AM
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You can say the same about women who choose this career. They dont value relationships with men or making love with them unless they get what they want, and how much they want (money. It takes two to tango. What does this say anything new about humanity? Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:11 AM
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VIP tier: Will carry your children and raise them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:02 AM
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Not shallow at all. But men who are going to be footing most of the bill also want something in return for their resources. Submission, chastiy, loyalty. Up to everyone to decide whether that is a good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:53 AM
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Sometimes you gotta get unhinged to enjoy life to the fullest. All the mumbo jumbo about not offending people ia a big turnoff. If this is what the guy likes, then all the power to him. At least he's honest. And theres women who want to unleash their inner bimbo. Its the internet and no ones gonna judge you. Masculine women make good employees Feminine women make good long term partners Thats not to say men should marry women with no careers if those men dont make enough money to support a famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:48 AM
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Men are pestered to get a real job. Women pestered to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:40 AM
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You just described a nun. And they are praised, not stigmatized. On the other hand, single virgin men who enjoy their life are called incels, gay, loser, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:39 AM
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And did you accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:36 AM
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Its easier to get a job if you already have a job. Pre selection Evolutionary biology comes into play. women carry children which means natural selection favored who selected the best males. And seeing other want a man makes it more likely he is a good mate. For men, loyalty and exclusivity is more important. If many males pursue the same women, the man has more competitors he may have to fight and possibly get injured from. Also there can be more chance of cuckoldry and raising another man's ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:46 AM
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Shes unmarried and childless but nowhere does it say she's a virgin or never had a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:09 AM
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For a man, sex can be a way of self validating his worth in the gene pool. By converse, lack of sex can be detrimental to a man's self image by suggesting he is worthless in the gene pool. Sex isnt really a sufficient nor necessary condition for a man's value. But genetically men have been wired to feel that. A well meaning woman can tell him how wonderful and lovely he is, that he will make some woman blessed one day, but all that can sound like sugar coated words if the woman doesnt want to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:29 AM
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Telling men to change for a woman is equally terrible advice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:55 AM
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Well one movement wanted equity for all. Its called communism. Why stop at achieving equity between men and women? Why should some be rich while others poor? Why not just make EVERYONE equal? You only need to read Animal Farm to find out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:47 AM
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Birth and pregnancy is the offsetting factor, but for women that dont plan on having kids, they should be treated exactly as equal to men. Thats equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:24 AM
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Its scientifically proven that being castrated also increases a male's lifespan by avg of 4 years. Monks are a very exceptional lifestyle, surrounded by nature, relaxation, and not a lot of hard work. I think that is more influential
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:56 AM
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But women always have higher expectancies. What does this prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:48 PM
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Once a woman has born his child the old age is less of a negagive trait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:56 AM
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Or, in order to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:20 AM
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Did you live there and conduct surveys?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:18 AM
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best flair ive seen so far
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:29 AM
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Well we aren't from those cultures. Different groups of people can form different genetic preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:28 AM
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Men like big tits and women like six packs & muscle. We have baby formula and meat is sold in supermarkets. You can yell and criticize peoples' preferences all you like but it's probably not going to change very quickly since urbanization is only a recent concept. If we view history correctly, we can draw useful inferences from it and design a more harmonious society. If we bury our head in the sand and say we should change, then it sounds good in theory but its difficult to practice in reality.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:20 AM
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It depends on your social class. If youre from an upper middle class the parents are the ones with hypergamy and believe their kids deserve to be with a partner that is equal or better than them. If youre from lower class there are no such expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:51 PM
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There is a limit to what the father can teach their sons whe the mother is vehemently opposed to their sons dating while in school, having sex, partying, or doing any of that stuff good boys shouldnt be doing. And mothers tend to have the final say in how children are raised and taught in many Eastern cultures. Even if the father wants to teach his son how to be a rizzler the mother will throw a big fit about it. Some of it is sound advice. Dont get a girl pregnant before you have a stable job. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:34 AM
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I agree with you and i never claimed womens life is in easy mode. Im only responding to OP's question why men are not stigmatized for promiscuity while women are. Men and women are different. Men are stigmatized for being jobless and and living with parents while women arent. A successful man is fine with marrying a younger dependent virgin while a successful woman probably isnt. Never mind who has it rough in a marriage. that depends on the marriage. I believe being born a man has more advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:24 AM
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Its the same everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:49 AM
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Well yes. Women still jave duties theyre expected to fufill. But the difference is, if both men and women are going to the marriage job interview, the man needs on his cv, a good education, a good income, charming personality, maturity, sexual competency/skills, good looks. For the women its just be 20-35 and above average looks. Never mind the argument which job is tougher. I might agree childbirth and motherhood is a tough job. But the credentials dont even compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:48 AM
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I think theyre equally hypergamous. Dont believe what tiktok tells you about 4b in korea. Korea has the highest abortion rate in the OECD. Lot of people fucking but not having children. When theyre ready to have children at 35 biological fertility is down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:13 AM
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Women are born with value. Men must create their own value. If you advise a man to live a limited life, he will have much trouble getting a partner. He needs to gain experience for women to find him attractive. Youve seen women complain about inexperienced men. But men complaining about inexperienced women? Rare. Women can do absolutely nothing and be desirable. Youre right its not fair. But thats the cards you are dealt. You can do what you want at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:43 AM
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You know nothing about Korea. Stats show the US has a much higher portion of single males than Korea. Anecdotally, most of my male friends in Korea in their 20s have a girlfriend. Unlikely they will put a ring on it however because that coats money and committment. Young koreans are increasingly serial daters. They date for fun, not for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:38 AM
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Are you willling to pay a special tax to support families with children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:40 PM
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Although the US is not in danger of being wiped out right away In order to prevent economic collapse many western countries may also need to feel the pressure to adopt israel style culture to stay nationally competitive Israel ranks low on Global Sexual Permissiveness Index https://m.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-770283
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:43 AM
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When men and women want to have their cake and eat it too, they will cheat. Men can marry a virtuous wife to guarantee his children are his. Then cheat with promiscuous women to obtain excitement. This can lead to bastardization, where births out of wedlock happen and the man provides attention and resources to his bastard children and their mother. A married woman's worst case scenario. Women can marry the beta to secure financial stability and commitment. Then cheat with the alpha to obtain th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:37 AM
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Israel is a liberal democracy with a birth rate of 2.89. The highest in all developed countries. What do they do? Mandatory draft for both men and women. 1 year for men, 6 months for women. Women are exempt if married or have at least 1 child. Women already get much preferrable treatment in service length and exemptions. Yet it has a huge impact on the birth rate. Some women get married and/or have kids just to avoid the draft. Couple in a sizable population of religious people. Bam you got a gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:15 AM
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Its so easy to simplify issues. Women also have a loneliness epidemic. Femcels on the rise. Its a complex issue that has no simple solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:14 AM
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Do you realize even the mongols give ultimatums to besieged towns. Surrender and you live. Fight and you die. No invader is stupid enough to fight an enemy that surrenders peacefully. Some of the surrendered men sometimes join the ranks of invaders and make them stronger. Thats free recruits. Also lot of invading empires like jurchens, mongols, etc exacted yearly tributes of silver and women and offer protection. If the men have self respect they will fight to the death to protect the chastity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:45 AM
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Ad hominem attacks, straw man, fale binary, red herring yawn I get your point. Now have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:41 AM
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Men perform incredibly efficiently in groups comprised purely of men, in pursuit of specific goals. This is why sailors always believed that it was bad fortune to have a woman on board a ship. The military doesnt allow women to serve as infantrymen. Studies in israel showed that when women get injuried in battle, the men would all focus on saving the women rather than fighting the enemy, which can cause huge failures in the operation. Whether you like it or not, most men are wired to be simps fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:32 AM
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College education for women is 50% in china. All laws guarantee women equal opportunity. Japan had there own feminist movement in the 1990s. Nothing will prevent fertility decline save for large child support payments. Sexual conservatism will encourage marriage and family building over hookups and casual sex. Families give birth to next generation, not casual meetups. Nothing will singlehandedly solve the societys problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:25 AM
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Even in modern day, where rape and sexual assault is heavily punished and stigmatized, it still happens. Your point? The law is useless because it doesnt do its job? Without facts and figures the anecdotes are not helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:16 AM
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You dont understand the use of past tense do you. And none of you would exist if your .other didnt give birth to you. How about some appreciation for the pain and labor she put in so you could live? The IT engineer wouldnt have a job if the internet cables arent put in the ground by a man. The surgeon wouldnt have a place to work if the hospital wasnt built by a man. The lawyer wouldnt have electricity to power the lights in her office if the oil wasnt drilled by a man. Its admirable what your f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:07 AM
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Youre making straw man arguments that dont even exist. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:05 AM
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Wise men would just surrender peacefully if they dont have sisters or daughters to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:04 AM
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Many pre columbian native Americans tribe were matriarchial. This is outlined in the post. Problem was, they didnt have the technology or populations to resist patriarchial european invasion. So matriarchy is possible, but it will be a hunter gatherer tribe. Because what use are female judges, entrepreneurs, and politicians if there is no electricity, roads, buildings, and fuel? No one disagrees that men are the more physically violent gender. Its the masculine nature. But without men you also d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:54 AM
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Is it coincidence that conservative societies have more babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:52 AM
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I have a long term partner. Thank you for the advice thougj
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:50 AM
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It already has to some level?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:50 AM
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Its more correct to say men are so controlled ny biology that they will forgo health, safety, and resources that could be use for self gain, if they are given an opportunity to get women and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:49 AM
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If saying factual statements such as "men and women have biological and psychological differences that make them more capable in filling certain roles in society", without saying what those roles are, and if they should, makes me a tradcon, then I guess I am. Because someone who loves to read between lines will conclude Im a sexist, misogynist, and want to live in the 1400s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:46 AM
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Gender equality is definitely very high in China and Japan. In fact hypergamy is even bigger in those countries because women have been traditionally raised to have high standards in men, picking ones with best careers and education. Thats why getting into college would be a huge plus for men who want to be married. Problem arises when womenare also given same oppprtunities, and women cannot find enough men who make more money than them, and are not attracted to men who make less. Also realize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:39 AM
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The 100k wont be a lump sum. It can be spread put over 18 years of childs life. The rationale is, pre modern society rewarded childbirth. Children can feed animals, pick vegetables, help in the farm. Even in industrial era, children went to factories and made money. However modern era disincentivizes children, with the exception of mom and pop shops where children help out from time to time (think Bobs Burgers). Child labor laws and urbanization nmhave created a disincentive to have children in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:33 AM
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Typo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:15 AM
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Youre seeing arguments that dont exist. Nowhere in the post does it call for women specifically to do anything or blame women. Its both men and women reacting to changes in the economy and society. Its natural for humans to seek gratification if there are no consequences. In christianity masturbation is forbidden. But realistically, rubbing one off once in a while wont change your life. But when it becomes an addiction it can ruin a man. And now that porn and gooning js ubiquitous we have self h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:14 AM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:06 AM
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No they couldnt care less. Did you read the part where i said most men have other forms of entertainment that reduces need for sex? Men have always been able to visit a hooker since dawn of time. Pussy is cheap. Family is expensive You missed the whole point or didnt read
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:04 AM
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Mouse utopia experiment can give us a glimpse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:02 AM
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It goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:01 AM
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It doesnt matter who you fuck. Just stick to one good person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:00 AM
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There is no easy answer. Every choice has consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:59 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/may/19/equality-and-polyamory-why-early-humans-werent-the-flintstones This article explains everything. It's not polygamous. Its polyamoury. Each woman can have as many partners as she likes. Because at the end of the day she gets her share of the hunted meat equally, since resources are shared in the tribe. All the men have a chance at fucking the same woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:07 AM
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That's not the same. Your hunter gatherer Alaskan community has all the modern technology and knowledge. Not to mention the Arctic is a special case because living conditions are so incredibly harsh compared to temperate environments. The Eskimos have had a tradition where foreign visitors would be invited to fornicate with the wife of the host's family to add diversity to the gene pool and prevent genetic disorders. Very different from the traditional societies we know Studying primitive commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:02 AM
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primary incentive for men to build a family was the sexual exclusivity of marriage Incorrect. The incentive to build a family is the family itself. Nearly every accomplished man in history, the Kings and Emperors, Industrialists, etc, after gaining the wealth and influence and power he wanted, has desired to have children. Especially sons who would bear their name and provide a form of pseudo-immortality. Such men could have all the sex they could ever want, but still wanted a family. Hence, sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:51 AM
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Did you miss the part where I said hunter gatherer societies were a primitive communism? The hunters would distribute the meat equally, and the women will also add calories to the diet by gathering plants and berries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:43 AM
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A News article by the Guardian which cites studies by established academia. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:35 AM
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Much appreciated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:33 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/may/19/equality-and-polyamory-why-early-humans-werent-the-flintstones
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:30 AM
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You missed the point. Society will probably revert to a level of moderate conservationism because humans adapt to avoid collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:24 AM
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You can't force wealthy people to invest in a country. That's their free will. Capital flight will occur if you tax people with capital much more than other countries. Sure you can prevent some of the money from leaving by imposing strict rules, but that will scare many more people from bringing money in. Imagine you put money in a bank, and the bank now makes it difficult for you to take your money out. Then you dont use that bank anymore and go to a different bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:22 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/may/19/equality-and-polyamory-why-early-humans-werent-the-flintstones Darwin’s premise was that due to their need to carry and nurture a child women have a greater investment in offspring than men. Women are therefore significantly more hesitant to participate in sexual activity, creating conflicting sexual agendas between the two genders. This creates a rather awkward situation. With women producing such “unusually helpless and dependent offspring”,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:12 AM
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Read the title again. Then read the closing remark. I said it may collapse if certain conditions are maintained. I also said it may be prevented if there is a move towards moderate conservatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:08 AM
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Which is why the option of moderate conservatism exists as a more viable alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:15 AM
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Well consider for a moment that China is already making plans to conduct an Anaconda plan on Taiwan. They don't even need to fire a shot, just surround the island with warships and starve them out until they acquiescence to the new system. That's just one example. Population decrease doesn't only entail loss of people. It causes an entire economic collapse due to a break in the pension system.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:13 AM
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Nature giveth, nature taketh. Women aren't entitled to modern conveniences. Everyone earns it. Humans have lived in a primitive state for tens of thousands of years in the natural state. No one is stopping all the average girls from building and living in a city where only women are allowed. But reality is, men build the cities, and women go to them to better their lives. In the past, a man builds log cabin, and the woman chooses the man with the best log cabin. Just because men don't build log …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:10 AM
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This is one way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:02 AM
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Today is just a glimpse into the future. Let's draw a few scenarios. In 50 years, how can we guarantee the state of the world that we take for granted today? First, the pension system fails. The 20 year olds of today are 70 year old in 50 years. The US social security system already is set to run out in 2035, and people will be given less and less than they were promised because there are less young people paying taxes. But old people still have to eat, pay rent, and live. They will take out loa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:59 AM
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Is a modest movement towards sexual conservationism necessary to prevent civilization collapse? It's literally in the conclusion of my post. Aristocrats are supposed to be wealthy. No matter how intellectual, you're not a aristocrat with $50,000 in college debt. Government will need to incentivize child rearing by giving cash payments to families with many children, collected from people who are childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:42 AM
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Ancient classics and records across cultures all record the power that a single beautiful woman is able to lead to the demise of an empire. In Chinese classics, there is a 4 character word 傾國之色, which means "Nation-toppling beauty". It's based on the true story of an Emperor who did everything his favorite concubine wanted to make her happy, which led to the destruction of his empire. Similarly, in the Bible, the descent of Man and expulsion from the Garden of Eden is originally caused by Eve's …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:37 AM
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Civilization won't collapse because the people who have conservative values will out-birth the people with liberal values, and society will revert to moderate conservatism. Law of Darwinism. It's the people with liberal values whose bloodline will be ended. Why do you think the religion that says "be fruitful and multiply" has the most followers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:31 AM
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He blames women for men’s declining ambition, as if personal drive only exists when sex is a reward. Correction: Family, not sex. Sex has always been attainable since dawn of time because prostitution is the world's oldest trade. He claims birth rates are collapsing due to feminism but conveniently ignores factors like economic instability, housing costs, and lack of parental support. Nowhere in the entire post is feminism mentioned. Progressivism is a more apt word. Every time I cite a reason f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:25 AM
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I said in the post that it takes two to tango. No one is blaming women. Both men and women, after inhibitions are thrown off, are inclined to drive society towards the ground. Did you not just read? I said that the horny men that are lined up to fuck the sexually liberated women are also part of the problem. How do you even work towards a strong unified community when just speaking the facts of reality itself is met with such hate and animosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:15 AM
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It probably wouldn't be as extreme as Taliban levels, but more like Mussolini or Putin levels. The French women who were conquered by the Nazis didn't unalive themselves. They instead adapted by offering themselves to their enemies. Only a small portion of Ukrainian women are fighting to protect their homeland. A huge number would flee to other countries. Also, I doubt there would be mass enslavement because slavery is inefficient in an industrialized economy. They would instead be subject to ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:03 AM
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Didn't porn used to be ridiculed? Now we have posts on this sub defending their right to use porn How long before even married men banging their maid robot once in a while becomes normalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:58 AM
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Actually the idea is to fuck less people. Thank you for your contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:48 AM
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You're making things into a choice between two extremes. You realize that when the father is dead or absent the mothers would do the same thing? In fact daughters were married off with a dowry, meaning the father PAID the man to take care of his daughter. If your civilization burns down and another civilization that is still very strong and much more conservative comes over and tries to take over yours, then everyone is forced to choose the lesser evil and build civilization again, or be enslave…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:46 AM
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Straw hat arguments are not helpful to the discussion. Im not surprised syphilis was a big issue in London. Prostitution is the world's oldest trade, and syphilis is a new disease acquired from the Americas, which means Europeans lacked natural resistance to it. There is a reason this was the most problematic STD in the era. It only takes a small minority of women who are prostitutes as a trade, to each fuck thousands of men for money, who would be so bottom barrel in society that they would fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:40 AM
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Humanity isn't going to die out. There are 195 countries in the world, and any one of them could go a different route and if successful, dominate the others. Strong, unified communities will eventually come out on top and history will repeat itself. Crying about it isn't going to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:28 AM
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Are you not aware of the fact that after the initial nomadic lifestyle, the mongols settled down into the large cities that they conquered, starting from Chinese capitals such as Beijing, Chang'an, etc, and by the height of Mongol empire, the vast majority of the population lived in a sedentary agrarian lifestyle, retaining their traditional customs? And even the mongols were patrilineal The Mongol family was patrilineal, meaning men passed down their property and status to their sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:25 AM
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Promiscuity has been highly stigmatized in traditional societies. There is no single cause of birth rates falling. Civilization collapse is a result of 2 factors. Population decline and mens' loss of motivation to go beyond their needs to provide for a family. Youre condensing everything into binaries and that is not helpful to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:23 AM
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I already described the original state of humankind as hunter gatherer societies that didnt have this patrilineal system. Did you even read? Nomadic peoples are difficult to achieve a civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:54 AM
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And the reason why men have wanted to make more money than they realistically need to feed, clothe, house, and support themselves is because of dream of having a family, sex, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:53 AM
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I pointed out the historical trend. Im asking everyone what should be done about it. If there is a big meteor headed to Earth, and I draw up the facts and figures to prove it, am I advocating that we fire a nuclear missile to eliminate the threat? Not necessarily. I could also advocate that we just kiss our loved ones goodbye and accept our fate. Or we could build underground shelters, or colonize other planets. It sounds like YOURE the one drawing conclusions. You're saying Im choosing a singul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:52 AM
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It's more likely that just like in the natural ecosystem, a more effective predatory nation will take advantage of weakening countries and impose their systems on them. For example, if the US and Western Europe go belly up from economic and social crisis and their military falls below necessary levels, countries like Russia or China may eventually take them over and enforce a more totalitarian and ruthless regime than the current Grand Old Party, which compared to them, are . Not sure how long i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:47 AM
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One solution I forgot to mention is, give a very large sum of payment to families that have children. But it would have to be around $100,000 per child. However this may be unpopular with citizens who do not wish to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:43 AM
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Well that's basically what the post said too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:43 AM
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Calm down. You're making too many assumptions and putting words into someone's mouth. Men built civilization. Women gave birth to it. Both had clearly defined roles. Sometimes, women were queens or warriors, but this was a minority. You think only men are responsible for benefiting from repressive regimes? The high-profile female leaders were equally if not more ruthless. Female leaders have been known to be more likely in waging wars than male leaders in fact. And in pre-modern societies, rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:40 AM
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Well the problem is, population isn't going to shrink indefinitely. THe world isnt united under 1 government. There are plenty of countries around the world who are happy to revert back to regressive and totalitarian methods, if not downright medieval, to maintain national competitive edge. Then those countries will have the leg up over progressive countries by leveraging their higher populations and more advanced industrial systems and take them over. So in essence, society is bound to keep cyc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:26 AM
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That would cause the rich to move their assets to countries with lower tax rates, drive away investment in your country, and decrease tax revenue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:21 AM
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So not even the lifespan of 1 person. Many people born in 60s are still alive. In fact they're only 60s now. It didn't even take the end of one lifespan to start seeing the cracks in the walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:20 AM
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Literally began the statement as "im not advocating any policy"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:17 AM
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How low of a population are we talking about? Back to hunter-gatherer levels? This by definition is end of civilization. Not end of humanity, but a big regression from advanced social and technological civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:13 AM
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Own a gun
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:34 PM
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So youd rather run into a stranger than your own intimate partner in the woods? Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:31 PM
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Intimate partners are not more dangerous than strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:29 PM
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Statistically people are more likely to be killed by bee stings than a shark attack. But thats because bees and humans both live on land and sharks live in the sea, where more humans have no business being in. Knowing this would you say a bee is more dangerous than a shark? No, it's Law of probability at work
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:43 AM
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Yes and the women who are asked what their preferences are, dont tell you this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:33 PM
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50 shades of Grey? Twilight? There is a big gap between what women want and what women get. In their wildest fantasy Women want werewolves, vampires, aliens, young billionaire, etc. But how does a normal human win her heart? If she has to tell you then youre not the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:04 PM
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Average looking guy with game can get 10/10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:45 AM
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Not really. I have no abs, not well groomed, and I have a loving gf. Its about the personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:40 AM
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Makes sense. Having few choices makes people more humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:35 AM
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Women naturally hide their preferences because they dont want to give a cheat sheet to the men who must pass the test to gain her approval. She wants a man to attract her naturally, without knowing what her preferences are, which means he is THE ONE. He either read her mind or stars aligned for them to be together. This is great and all, but when youre just trying to do a nonbiased survey its frustrating to get a clear picture. To women the interview about her preferences becomes personal and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:27 AM
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Modern men date women from traditional countries, to whom the modern men are an upgrade, and modern women drop out of the dating market. It all works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:48 PM
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However women tend to value emotional maturity, independence, financial stability, social status more than youth in men. Sure, a strong healthy man is desirable, but in the modern world a man in his 20s is rarely going to be dependable as husband material. And its not anyones fault. This is why men need to keep exercising to keep themselves in prime condition. Then they get best of both worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:39 AM
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The single mother will most likely talk a man into doing the job
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:16 AM
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Even the statue of lady justice is a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:15 AM
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Socially awkward but fearless, brave man Vs Socially alpha, but scared of a bug Who's more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:12 AM
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At this point the poor black man is considered more privileged than a middle class white woman according to feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:29 AM
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I love how OP suddenly stops offering her two sided discussion or counterarguments to replies such as this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:28 AM
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Classic hollywood moment where two boys who had it for each other fight it out on the mud until one of them beats the other, and then extends a hand to the defeated boy. He takes the hand, they pull each other up, and shake on it and become best friends ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:18 AM
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A group of men plan a fishing trip. Their wives get upset and they have to sleep on the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:13 AM
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Men can also fall for false sense of valued caused by economic strategy by corporations. A $100 necklace looks like its a bargain if its at a 70% discount, and you buy it. If the exact same necklace was sold for $10 you might not buy it. So if flowers are sold for a certain price it has more percieved value. Also, time is money and men dont always go on road trips to the countryside. In the urban environment you actually save more money buying at a flower shop than spending hours looking for flo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:36 AM
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Seek a man who is grounded in masculine principles, swayed by no one. Keeps his word. Strong morals. Protective, caring, hard working. Self-confident, assertive, and intelligent. Then you will not regret. Note: Notice I didn't say anything about how he looks, how much money he makes, how he dresses, his height, etc. Those things can become useless or disappear overnight. But the traits I mentioned, they will remain valuable for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:29 AM
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Or maybe sometimes a 22 year old is exceptionally mature for their age?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:24 AM
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Guys think more economically. Women think romantically. Women probably don't want a subscription because that's offloading the effort of picking out flowers and bringing it to a third party company. Even if the flowers aren't expensive, a guy plucking wildflowers off a highway and gifting it to his woman is more romantic than spending money to pay someone else to get the best flowers in the world delivered. Men think more economically. If they can pay less and get more bang for the buck thats a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:18 AM
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Raise your standards in his personality. Not your standards in his height, wallet, looks, etc. If you got abused or manipulated, that was 100% his personality. Date an average man with a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:21 AM
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Agree Guy gets friendzoned. He focuses his efforts to improve himself and gets a gf. Girl that friendzoned him now sees he's actually damn fine, and would like to hang out more. The guys gf feels like this "friend" is a threat, and doesnt want bf to hang out with her Women asking on reddit why men dont wanna remain friends after being friendzoned. Oldest story ever. Women, do you want your bf or husband to keep being friends, giving gifts and services to, and spending lot of alone time with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:03 AM
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Men have a lot of burden on their shoulders. They need to make money to afford a house and lifestyle for their future wife and unborn child. They need to grow strong, smart, and mature to face all of lifes troubles that might threaten his family. A Man has got no time giving attention and validation, gifts, time, and services to women who provide nothing in return. If this female friend offered something in return, clearly he will want to remain friends! Does she bake cookies for him? Does she f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:02 AM
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Its their choice. First, the couple needs to discuss the issue and set rules about what is ok amd not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:45 AM
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I told my gf that I will abstain until marriage. Gf got upset. Women want what they cant have. If you want to have sex with them they dont want to have sex with you. If you dont want to have sex with them they want to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:42 AM
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Surprised pikachu face for all the bluepill women who thought redpillers are incels that hate all women and not people with a rational brain that simply respects themselves and has standards for people to gain their respect, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:51 AM
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Pregnancy isn't the punishment of sex. Sex is the reward for the pregnancy. Human beings would not willfully get pregnant unless the act of sex was pleasurable. So evolutionary genetics has wired human brains to enjoy the act of fornication, so they would get pregnant in sufficient numbers and continue on the human race. People overthink the ethnical, moral, social connotations of sex and pregnancy. it's just biology. If you don't like this description then feel free to seek artificial dogma reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:49 AM
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I'm saying, if youre in your 40s and build your career, your options are reduced to guys in 20s who have less life experience and financial stability (and hence can't get women his age), or men in their 50s or even 60s who can't get women in her 20s or 30s because of the age gap. And these kinds of men usually aren't the type you would feel like you deserve, since youve already been with higher value men when you were younger. The men in your age range, in their 40s with a financial stability, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:45 AM
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So if they see a single mom on the street, they will throw rocks at her? Or is it more of a "I wont marry a single mom" therefore they "hate" her? What about me? I am perfectly fine with being friends with a single mom. But I wont date or marry a single mom. Do i classify as a single mom hater?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:20 PM
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An older man, 40s or 50s are willing to taken on a jobless basement dweller in her 20s or 30s. Its called a stay at home wife. If you build a career like a man then your options are also same as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:34 AM
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Good for you. Hope it works out. In the long run dont many of these women choose to drop out of the labor force to focus on family and children? As for the second point it depends on how successful. Warren Buffet married a cocktail waitress 20 years younger than himself, when he was in his 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:08 AM
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I dont understand your question. Its a run on sentence. What arent the shit people in their 20s not known for? Edit: i think you misunderstood the scenario. The woman in her 20s isnt required to only choose men in their 20s. 25 year old Jane can meet the 30 year old Joe who has a stable career and life experience that allows him to stay calm and in control despite all the challenges you may face in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:52 AM
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I dont think he meant prioritizing a career means the same thing as getting a job. You can get a job at mcdonalds but thats not a career. You can get an entry level job at Mckenzie but if you dont put in the difficult work and hours, you wont build your career and advance up the organization. What he is saying is, if a woman puts her career above building a relationship during her 20s, the bargaining power she can get from her youth and beauty is severely reduced later in life despite having a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:49 AM
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Technically true. You need to proivde more than sex. An emotional bond. Sex is the cheapest thing. Literally costs $50. Just as giving women compliments and buying her dinner doesnt gurantee love, neither does sex. Having a woman that a man can be vulnerable to and not be judged for it is rare. Using sex doesnt work but withhold sex doesnt work either. If youre too easy on first date, the man wont see you as a long term partner because he assumes you will do the same for everyone else. But if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:38 AM
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You will be ok taking care of a divorce mans children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:29 AM
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Thats literally what "get your man early" means
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:28 AM
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Youre literally saying the same thing the redpill is saying. Congratulations. Most men dont have time or energy to become the top 10%. So they pick up tricks from TRP that can be learned in a few days and give off the appearance of top 10% with the goal of banging chicks. And apparently it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:59 AM
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You got it all wrong. Men are biologically attracted to younger women for fertillity reasons. The older men who knocked up younger women and abandoned them have succeeded in fufilling their biological instinct to reproduce. Then those children will grow up and seek young women to knock up, and the cycle continues. Imagine 2 groups of humans. Group 1, men like young women. Group 2, men like old women. In group 1, the men compete and spend time effort and resources to get a chance to procreate wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:49 AM
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Why is the man always considered "preying on" and taking advantage of women in a relationship when both parties consent? When older men date younger adult women, that's preying on "barely legal girls who are easier to manipulate". When it's rich men dating poor women it's preying on their financial situation. And now, if young men date older women, it's preying on their neglected status. You've got to be kidding me. Why isn't it ever women preying on the men for the looks, stability, financial r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:25 AM
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For a broke man in his 20s, she may be a good catch as a dating partner. Men with a mommy complex would actually be thrilled to date a woman like this. (Not implying ALL men who date much older women have that. Its a a sufficient not necessary condition) For older men who are financially stable, they would most likely want to settle down and have children. Question is, are you as an older and financially stable woman attracted to the kinds of men who are attracted to you? Are ok with supporting …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:37 AM
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What if the parent that doesnt work, is an abusive narcissist who spends the child support on themselves and doesnt properly care for the child? Just give custody to whoever has more reputable position in life. The parent that works can hire something called a nanny or babysitter. If the father is a jobless alcoholic and the mother works 3 jobs to support the family, does it make sense for the father to take custody just because he doesnt make an income?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:05 PM
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Well there is a reason why there was a superstition along sailors that having a woman aboard a ship is a bad omen. Men that should be cooperating to achieve a common objective can easily start competing for the affection of one or few women in isolated spacses like this, and end up even killing each other. Real life example is 1 woman who was stranded with 31 men during ww2 on the pacific theater. Most of the men ended up killing each other over the 1 woman. https://medium.com/@threeand10/the-qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:41 AM
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Or they can both make the equal amount of money and hire a maid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:40 AM
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But why do women working part time who have men working full time still feel like both parties need to split chores equally? Shouldnt the person working more outside of home work less inside? Btw it absolutely makes sense for women to want to work part time. Women are naturally better at multitasking for a variety of evolutionary reasons while men are better at focusing on one task
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:49 AM
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And if he makes a move on them he would get friendzoned instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:13 AM
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The mirror treatment works best. If you are ok with your partner spending a night over at their (attractive) opposite sex straight friend without you present, then you have a case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:09 PM
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Sometimes you expect people to change their behavior after certain stage of their life. For example if youre married and have kids do you still want to dress like a stripper? When the girl is single, maybe the guy expected she dressed like that to get a boyfriend. Once she got a boyfriend she expected her to stop. If she doesnt then he can leave. You can use your faulty logic on other things. "She flirted with guys before you dated her. Why do you expect her to stop flirting with guys after you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:02 PM
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The man has a right to leave if she doesnt act the way he wants. The woman has a right to keep doing what she wants if she is ok with a break up. I dont get what is the controlling aspect. Its a free country. Why let yourself get controlled? Either break up or follow his rules. If someone is literally controlling you by force, call the police because thats illegal. Each partner needs to evaluate their cost and benefit. If the guy wants his gf enough to not break up even if she dresses provokativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:17 PM
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No the women divorce because the men are busy working their ass off to make money to provide for the family, and the woman feels like he doesnt love her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:07 PM
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Maybe she initiated the divorce and chased him away?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:51 AM
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And women often choose to initiate divorce because she doesnt feel tingles anymore, take custody of the kids, and tell the kids every day how terrible father is to justify her choice, so father becomes absent from her life. Even when the father wants to be a part of the kids life, what he can do is limited. The father then gets a new woman, and the new woman hates it when the father spends time with his old children so that he focuses more on the new children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:48 AM
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I dont know why the parameters of the question keep changing. We are comparing womes attitudes towards random men using sex toys vs mens attitudes towards random women using sex toys. Of course a couple needs to be on same page about what each partner should be ok with doing sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:40 AM
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Interesting. I also know of a broke musician friend who have women happy to pay his bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:35 AM
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There is literally tons of porn with women using vibrators
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:34 AM
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Not so bizzarre. If you read the Dune anthology, you can see there is an entire planet of women called the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood that have ran a breeding program for thousands of years, to create the perfect male god human who leads humanity to prosperity. This is an allegory of the role that women performed in all human societies to shape the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:04 PM
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So most people think man having sex doll is weird. But most people dont think women having a vibrator is weird. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:29 PM
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I dont see boatloads of men saying disgusting things and attacking women using vibrators like how women do the same about men using sex dolls. There is a clear difference and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:19 PM
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But are you going to roast women for having vibrators?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:15 PM
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Yes, no man cares if unattractive women are fucking themselves with a dildo. All the power to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:15 PM
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Not making any judgement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:14 PM
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For the men, who can die any day for a million reasons, they couldnt afford to be selective. Short son is better than no son.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:14 PM
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However there is a difference between how men and women percieve these things. A man doesnt feel disgust at a woman owning vibrators or dildos, or body pillows.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:54 AM
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Its not that complex. There isnt an ulterior motive to women attacking less attractive men from satisfying their urges. Such men are invisible to the women, and arent even a back up option. But women have been selectors of good genes in the community, and feeling revulsion by the idea of men with undesirable characteristics having children was what kept the tribe in peak strength. This is why women influence each others preferences as well, and shame women that date guys they deem undesirable. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:04 AM
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Most straight men dont find it gross thinking about average to less attractive women having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:59 AM
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Here is a theory ive read. Women have a biological instinct to be disgusted by the idea of low value men having sex... with anything. People, objects, jerking off, etc. Historically most men died in wars and became cannon fodder and only the strongest survived to repopulate the community. Womens have evolved to be repulsed by the idea of fornication done by men who they wouldnt give time of day, even if theyre not impacting those womens lives directly, because when the low value men reproduce, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:44 AM
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Its not preventing me either. Lets make everything personal. Good for you. Pat pat pat. You deserve a cookie for being so masculine. Ever heard of cultural trends? Social normas? No its not going to put a gun to your head and prevent you from being masculine. But it has an influence. Let me give you another example. Epidemic of boys raised by single mothers due to divorce laws being favorable to women taking child custody, leading to men growing up without a strong father figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:37 AM
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Poland Finland Norway Sweden Romania Germany Switzerland Italy Hungary all democracies that are within invading range of Russia and dont got nukes. South Korea Taiwan Japan all democracies within invading range of China, NK, Russia and dont have nukes. Must be nice being in American bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:55 AM
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And when advanced democracies want to get nukes, they get threatened with economic sanctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:45 AM
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To begin, mainstream media has a trend of promoting the boss babe that fights against the patriarchy. We have seen a decline of respectable masculine role models in the media. Look how Lord of the Rings franchise used to have well written strong male characters such that were universally loved, but with recently reboots of the franchise, the media is pushing "strong women who dont need no man" who can take down entire armies by themselves and implies men should just shut up and let women speak. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:44 AM
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Is she oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:35 AM
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She wont be any better off if she was in a wilderness without any men. There are wolves and bears, cold and starvation. Now you understand why this partnership works. The woman needs the man's resources, log cabin, and protection. He isnt oppressing her. He is providing safety and security, shelter and food. Hence she has a reason to want to be with him. The world began as a harsh place. Its not mens fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:41 AM
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If it were that simple ever wonder why isnt it done already?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:01 AM
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Why are you eager tp downplay the contributions of our servicemen? Who said women arent in the military? Youre being needlessly defensive. Im refuting the claim that men arent good protectors. The entitlement is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:00 AM
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Many enlist because of sense of honor and patriotism. When society respected servicemen more, this woupd be a bigger factor. Ridiculing their contributions like youre doing is doing you no favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:56 AM
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Jumping to conclusions lile so many others. Women want masculine men. But society demonizes masculinity. More and more men become bottoms. Then they wonder why most of the men arent masculine enough for their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:54 AM
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And people born atheists dont stay atheists. Plenty convert after adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:53 AM
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Ai and robotics dont pay taxes to support the social security system. Less people in middle class mean less taxes. If you raise taxes on the rich then the rich move their assets to countries with lower taxes. Just like what Apple did in Ireland. Raising taxes on the rich actually decreases tax revenue. Problem not solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:52 AM
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Oftentimes When a man makes enough money to hire a maid to alleviate his beloved stay at home wifes house chores, he does. Why? Thats making life easier for her. You making very broad statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:49 AM
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Yes and because some fathers abuse their children, absolutely no fathers ever protect their children from danger and youre better off in the streets. You win the argument congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:48 AM
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Its in almost every mans biological imperative to do what they can to protect their wife and kids from danger. A coward who runs to save himself leaving his family to die is an exception to the rule, and even sp will haunt him for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:45 AM
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Ukraine disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:41 AM
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And? Im simply refuting the statement that men are not good protectors. Why are you bringing women into this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:40 AM
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If you have a commited long term partner, they will protect you. If its a random stranger, fat chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:05 PM
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Afghanistan population projected to increase by 85% by 2050. Its well over replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:48 PM
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In any case I believe that women should stay away from those kinds of men that want low body count. Im sure those women that get angry over his preferences dont have a chance with him anyways. Why get angry about a guy that wants women with beards? His choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:43 PM
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Quality of men have also gone down because of demonization of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:40 PM
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Talibans Afghanistan birth rate is nearly 4 per woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:38 PM
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Men are already protecting the very borders of ypur country and the streets of your city as you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:35 PM
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Thats the point of the OP isnt it? Its the 21st century and men and women dont actually need each other anymore except to satisfy the occasional sexual needs. Hence the reduced factors that lead to bonding and partnership and building families, which leads to societal decline. Thats the entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:31 PM
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Christians have much higher birth rates than atheist populations. They dont treat women as second class. The bible says men should love his wife just as Jesus loves the church. Im not christian but religious people will out birth atheists in the long run. Society wasnt having such big issues with birth rates in the 1990s and 2000s. Men and women still had equal rights under the law. But there was much less gender conflict then. A cultural approach is a way to mitigate the issues without restrict…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:24 PM
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What about average wage earning women wanting men making over 6 figures? Is this also hypocrisy or a valid preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:16 PM
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Youre the one imagining things I never mentioned. Isnt Ukraine invaded by Russia currently? Its happening today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:10 PM
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South Korea. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:10 PM
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Why dont you respond with actual constructive arguments about how to solve the demographic implosion which is literally forecast by facts and figures, and the impending economic aftereffects that come with it? Why shoot the messenger thats only delivering facts? Does it make you uncomfortable facing reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:07 PM
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Man hunts deer. Woman smokes and preserves deer and weaves baskets and makes pottery to store deer so that the man can spend the saved time hunting more deer. If either partner gets sick the other can take over some functions temporarily and nurse them back to health. When alone youre more likely to die in the wilderness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:05 PM
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But he doesnt own her. Whats the point? Are men responsible for the reality of a harsh world? Did men create the earth to be unforgiving? No, men have worked to modernize society and create inventions to make it more convenient for women to live comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:03 PM
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I dont need to work. I own assets that generate interest. I dont see how youre trying to relate this to your point. However I have military service experience and when society falls into crisis I have essential skills that can serve my community.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:00 PM
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More immigrants from countries with notoriously oppressive belief systems that restrict freedoms of women, who will seek to spread their ideologies in their new home and vote for politicians that align with their beliefs. Well if thats the bed they want to make they will have to sleep in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:52 PM
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Agreed. Women in countries with forced conscription for men but not for women still oppose female conscription even as their national defense is running itself to the ground due to declining birth rates and lack of young adult male population. Even as the country gets invaded by totalitarian regimes and the military is in shambles the women will never willingly vote for a politician that reduces their freedoms by conscripting them to help defend the country. Literally what is happening to South …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:48 PM
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All im saying is necessity results in partnership. When there is no necessecity, no partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:46 PM
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How easy to make false claims whenever convenient. Only two countries in the world have a male only draft? Are you kidding me? Full list of countries with a male-only draft: Algeria, Angola, Armenia, Austria, Azerbijan, Belarus, Brazil, Cambodia, Chad, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Cyprus, Egypt, Guinea, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Greece, Guatemala, Iran, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lativia, Libya, Mexico, Moldova, Mongolia, Qatar, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:00 PM
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Imagine the American wild west. Men and women worked together to fight against the wilderness, indians, bandits, starvation, the elements. They built a house together, farmed, had children, and divided up chores according to ability. That was a partnership. The woman wasnt oppressed. She could leave anytime. But they needed each other. So they respected each other. This was in the 1800s. Did the man own the woman? No. Did they work together? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:50 PM
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I dont think many women have thought that far ahead. Throughout history women have ensured their survival by gravitating towards whatever system gave them the best chance of survival. Historically, when the nazis conquered europe, it is well documented that women in France consorted with the enemy in droves as well as in other conquered nations. So realistically, when the developed countries get invaded by countries with less freedoms, then the women will either flee to safer countries (like wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:39 PM
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In a debate each party is usually convinced that their position is the right view, unless presented with irrefutable counterpoints. All youre doing is avoiding the burden of having to back up any counterpoints may not align with your worldview. In essence youre saying "I dont like your POV, but I cant think of any logical arguments against it, so Ill just frame you as close minded. Im right but I cant explain why. It just feels right" Thats not a discussion. I havent heard what points you disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:06 AM
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I will tell that woman to pick better. Problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:02 AM
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I did answer the question. I listed the basic necessities people need for survival. Food, shelter, energy, safety. And the jobs that go along with it. Sure women can learn how to operate machines and do farming, oil rigging, construction, logging, arctic sea fishing (highly doubt). But how much of the hard work will they do and how are they able to organize and allocate tasks? Women do not like following orders given by other women. Social experiments have been done with all women and all men gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:59 AM
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In a discussion, parties usually offer their points and counterpoints. If you cant, thats called ceding a point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:29 AM
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It has always been practical and necessary. There is a reason every single society in the world eventually became male dominated and patriarchial, even when some tribal societies used to be matriarchial. It is necessary for a large, strong, populous and flourishing society. Only recently we took a detour but quickly learnt the lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:43 AM
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A woman in a talk show in my country literally said on TV she rather date an abusive man than a short man. Became a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:39 AM
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Depends on what you define as functioning. We are talking about basic necessities. Food. Housing. Electricity. Prevention of crime. What is worse: Cant send kids to school or go to the hospital vs Cant eat, stay warm, or deal with armed robbers? Both men are women are needed for a well functioning society obvioisly. Without women, society will be barely afloat. But it will still float. Without men, it will collapse entirely. Yes women do a lot of important jobs. But the point is, a man can repla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:27 AM
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Thank you for opening up an important discussion without making it politicized, and asking good questions. We are definitely at a turning point in history wjen it comes to gender issues. Throughout the 2000s, empowering women and challenging gender stereotypes was the next big thing in all aspects of the first world cultures. And by all means, there have been important progress made in increasing access to education and opportunities for both genders, bringing awareness to sexual crimes, and bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:18 AM
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A society that prioritizes men should do so out of practicality and necessity, not sexism or outdated notions patriarchy. Men are responsible for keeping a country's infrastructure and essential services operating. Men build the roads, hospitals, buildings, bridges, and maintain them. Men keep the lights on by working at power plants and drilling oil. Men drive the trucks, unclog sewer systems, fight fires, catch violent criminals, defend the country etc. Yes some women are strong enough to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:08 AM
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If a couple dates for 8 years and the man never proposes. Usually we look at this scenario and say the man is an ahole for wasting her best years without promise of marriage. Already we are assuming the man is the gatekeeper of marriage, by putting the burden of proposing to the man. The woman has the liberty of accepting or refusing a proposal. But If he never proposes the woman can never accept. And usually after a long term relationship, women are very likely to accept, and get angry if he do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:20 PM
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Ever heard of the marriage proposal made by a woman? Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:38 AM
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Men are gatekeepers of marriage. Easy to get a man to sleep with you. Hard to get him to propose. Men have standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:09 AM
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And children should be raised by single parents or the orphanage?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:04 AM
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Wanting to fuck someone is the same as having a crush on them, aka having the hots for them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:56 AM
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People that have a crush on you arent platonic friends. Why do people get upset when their friend confesses to them, saying it ruins their friendship? Having hidden desires is same as explicit ones. You just dont know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:49 AM
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Men are more likely to volunteer to fight in a cause theyre passionate about. Look at Spanish civil war and how many Americans would volunteer in that war. Or even the Ukrainian war. Men are more likely to sacrifice their life for a movement they believe in. It doesnt compare with donating a few dollars here and there with not threat to your own wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:57 AM
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Usually tends to be other women who picks on "pick me"s or anyone who disagrees with them. Men are happy to be of assistance to women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:56 AM
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Men have a brotherhood that look out for each others' backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:38 AM
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Give it a test. Most men will disappoint you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:04 AM
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And if the opportunity presents itself, do you think they will really refuse to have sex with their female "friend"? Easy test for ladies who claim to have male friends. Offer to have sex with them. If they accept they werent friends to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:02 AM
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You also need to accept that many men have no interest in being friends to women that offer no chance of romantic interest. They rather spend the money, time, and effort to self improve and get a real partner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:54 AM
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Be a man 50 years ago and get drafted into vietnam
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:01 AM
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Its physically impossible to know. If there is any gap, then it can be blamed on sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:13 PM
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We will never know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:01 AM
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There is a dual scenario happening simultaneously. During times of peace women had fair amount of choice in whom they marry. They would run away with their lover if parents disapproved. They could join a nunnery if they didnt want to marry. They could seduce a man they like most. Men dont simply get a woman they want. You think its easy, but look at it from a man's POV. There are 20 other young men in the village, and they all want the most beautiful woman. In Anarchy They would need to fight to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:59 AM
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The womans mating strategy evolved into attracting the most powerful male. So if invading horde burns your village the smartest woman would be most evolutionarily pressured to offer herself to the highest ranking officer, unless if she was exceptionally pretty, the officer would want to save her virginity to be offered to his own emperor, in hopes of getting a promotion. Then for the woman her sexuality became a weapon to rise up the ranks of empires and become the favorite imperial consort and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:45 AM
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Not only brothers and sisters, but any young men looking to marry such women would also bash the skull of anyone attempting to rape them in the hopes that they would be picked. In every culture and civilization rapist was a monster. The more traditional a society was, the more severe the crime. For example, execution was the punishment for rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:40 AM
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So not married?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:49 PM
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Men are genetically wired to not want to commit to a woman that is openly promiscuous due to evolutionary reasons. Its a womans free choice to be promiscuous. Its a man's free choice to withhold commitment. Just dont lie about your past or complain when men just want a quick fling and dont commit. Im sure there are millions of men who "dont judge" a woman for being promiscuous, and lined up and hoping to fuck her. But how many of them want to marry her? Men and women are different what do you ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:06 PM
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Women are attracted to men with options. Usually, men with options capitalize on those options. (Pre selection) Its well documented that a man's attractiveness goes up if he becomes married or has a partner. For women' its the opposite. So women, stop rewarding fuckboys and go for the bachelor who never had a girlfriend!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:26 AM
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Usually its the women that are fuckboy apologists. Men dont like to deal with fuckboys. Men detest fuckboys. Ask any father of a woman if a fuckboy is a good match for his daughter. I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:45 AM
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Better than cuckolding If wife and I dont have kids. Divorce. If we have kids, stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:51 AM
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Simple reason. Men are expected to be breadwinners. If an industry is profitable, lot of men compete for a place in it, so they make a lot of money and provide for a woman and family. Women dont feel the need to compete as hard as men for the same jobs because their marriageability isnt contingent on their ability to make money. Its their youth and beauty. So they would be more advantageous to do less profitable, part time work that frees up more time for self care and grooming, socializing, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:48 AM
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Most men dont actually want 50-50. Most men want to pay 100 for a submissive, agreeable, loyal, devoted woman that they want to cherish and protect. Take how you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:44 AM
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So in order to recieve consistent love from a woman, she needs to depend on you. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:03 AM
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Watch the second Bladerunner movie and find out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:02 AM
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Its usually other women who get upset. Probably because either sour graes or "leave some for the fish" mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:06 AM
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Add mandatory high school class for sex and romance. Not the usual sex ed, but how to actually make love to partners and behave in ways that are attractive and romantic to the other sex. For BOTH boys and girls
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:57 PM
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Well we had a post describing the ideal man to be emotionally mature, financially stable, protective but not aggressive, well adjusted, stoic, yada yada yada And all these traits come from years of experience. Hence between a young man who is immature, vs middle aged man who is mature, young women seem to gravitate towards the latter as long as both have good looks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:30 AM
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Bitches and kind dont belong in the same sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:58 PM
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If a woman in 20s and woman on 40s offered themselves up to a man in 40s, he will most likely go with the woman in 20s. The reason why some older men may not go after women im 20s is because the chase is expensive when the prize is attractive. Woman in 20s is in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:57 PM
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And this is why women in 20s are often attracted to men over 10 years older than her. If they can just ignore the age difference older men simply have more life experience to get closer to the ideal. Every man wishes they knew the things they know at 30 or 40, when they were in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:16 AM
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Do you ever find yourself comparing your husband's sexual performance with your past partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:04 AM
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Men in their 40s and 50s who are rich seem to go for women in their 20s plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:01 AM
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However most men are willing to settle for just 3 of the traits you describe because theyre realistic. Top 3 would be youthful, attractive, agreeable. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:13 PM
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And this is why passport bros on the rise. To 3rd world countries, the average Joe in a 1st world country is a catch. Got a problem with that either?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:09 PM
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Plot twist if he did protect the random girl and she steals her man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:05 PM
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"Why arent you saving the kid from a burning building? Youre so not my type" And if I get injured while saving some stranger, who is going to save you and our potential family? Women are strange. They complain that their man ha goes off risk to dying in wars leaving the wife and kids alone to fend for themselces. They complain that their man isnt risking their life to save random strangers. Choose one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:53 PM
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But then why stats show divorce rates are higher with women with higher body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:14 AM
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Id be more worried if my 18 year old daughter wants to marry an 18 year old boy who hasnt even finished high school, than a 35 year old engineer working at Google who has a clean record and good morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:51 AM
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We are talking about men whose lives have been ruined by trying to do good deeds and youre debating if people who bring up thes issues are dateable or not. Thank you for the advice but I am specifically staying away from getting involved with other women in situations that can end in incrimination so that I dont end up in jail and be prevented from helping my own girl when she needs it. And she likes it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:24 AM
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No one is obsessing over them. Theyre just quietly protecting themselves and only looking out for their immediate family or friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:14 AM
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If youre a woman you will be less likely to be charged with sexual assault for accidently grabbing another woman's body, so kudos to you. The men want to help they used to help decades ago when chivalry was alive. But they just cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:57 AM
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Beasts, germs, cold, starvation. Did you know that before men built civilization and prosperity from wilderness, humans were hunted by wolves, bears, tigers, died from simple illnesses, froze under the cold, and starved from an unforgiving world? Women also played a part yes. Giving birth to the next generation which is equally important. But men are the ones who invented modern technology that allows you to sit in cushy homes all season around without getting cold or hot, and get uber eats deli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:53 AM
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Well this is actually a true story in the news from my country. A woman was falling from a subway escalator, and was on a trajectory to fall on a man at the bottom of the escalator. Seeing this, the man stepped out of the way and the woman fell on the ground, hurting herself. (Not fatal) The woman then sued the man for allowing her to get injured instead of catching her and protecting her from the injury. Was the man a coward for not gallantly saving the woman from harm? Maybe Sir Lancelot would…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:36 PM
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And who guards the prison that keeps the stalker away from you to keep you safe? A man probably. Youre making no sense by discount all help you recieve from men. Imagine a police force run by all women. Sure, a woman was helpful and a man was an Ahole. But seriously? Dont need help from all men? Be careful what you wish for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:29 PM
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It does not work anymore because simple hair flips, smiles, and light touching of the shoulders done by women in olden days to signal interest in men, are no longer sure guarantees that she actually likes you or is messing with you to get you in trouble. Too many men have been branded as creeps for approaching women who they thought were giving them the green light, and had their reputations ruined. So this system is broken in the modern egalitarian society where men and women should bear equal …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:24 PM
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In a traditional society, women didnt need to approach men. Men approached them or their fathers arranged their marriage. In modern society, women would need to approach men more IF they want a relationship with a good man. The good men arent approaching women anymore because society told them thats not what good men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:20 PM
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They tell men they dont have to be a provider or macho. But will they sleep with or marry unsuccessful men that are very feminine? Probably not. You can tell someone they can be a drug addict and homeless if they want. That is common sense. No one is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:16 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They lay the rules on what is a normal interaction in hetero sex. Hot take, but maybe orgasm isnt considered as important to women as it is for men? For example between a man that cant make a woman orgasm, but has charming personality, high status, makes her heart flutter with romantic gestures, vs man that can make a woman orgasm, but doesnt have the other traits, the woman would probably go for the first option. On the contrary, a man would probably choose the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:08 PM
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So in order to increase strength of family relationships and marriage, government aid in increasing mens' income has a positive effect, and government aid in i creasing womens' income has a negative effect. Why do modern democracies have so much government policy to advance womens' careers and aid for womens' education, employment, etc. And then wonder why the family unit is in tatters, divorce rates are through the roof, and child birth rates are plummetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:37 PM
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I would be disraught if the wife started to treat you with utter disrespect and cheats on you because she now has a higher paying job
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:35 PM
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So why dont those women tell the men to do specific things that makes the women orgasm, and refuse to have sex if the men dont comply? Why keep rewarding bad behavior and complain? Im sure that if youre a decently attractiive woman, you will have no shortage of men willing to lick your pussy until you cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:19 PM
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Because every guy has a line of women they can practice their sexual skills on until he gets good enough /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:16 PM
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Well CNC is a popular type of female fantasy. 50 shades of grey is basically a a sexual abuser billionare. Maybe a large portion of women say one thing and act another. Not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:55 AM
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Women complain that the men they are attracted to, dont commit. Men that women are generally attracted to, dont commit because women are now sexually liberated. He can get sex from many other women that are not her. Why would he commit? Imagine, if women were NOT sexually liberated. The men she wants to commit to her, has no choice but to commit, to secure at least 1 partner since all other options are now closed off to him. No wonder that the biggest slut shamers have always been women. They we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:49 AM
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What if she pokes holes in the condom
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:46 AM
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4B is a joke. South Korea, the country where 4B term was coined, has the highest abortion rate in the OECD. Are those fetuses created from immaculate conception? 4B is just cope for femcels. Its actually the men who are practicing 4B, not women. Last time I checked, men propose to women, not the other way around. Do the 4B women have a line of men proposing to them and she is just chronically rejecting one after another? Hardly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:36 AM
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4B is a movement for women no? What does this have to do with men having less sex? Fact remains Gen Z women are having more sex than any recent generation. Before, it was 1 man for 1 woman. Its the winner takes all scenario for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:33 AM
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I hope everything worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:38 AM
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Nothing else is necessary. Just give $100,000-$300,000 for every child born, spread out over 18 years. Between choosing to work all day and putting their kids in free daycare, vs NOT working and spending time with your kud at home with free money from the government, Ibet many would prefer the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:36 PM
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Yikes! Seems like projection
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:32 PM
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All very solid rules. However the car rule seems off. Maybe cars are a necessity in North America but in many countries with good public transit system (Japan, Korea, etc) , depending on where the man is in his life, a car isnt necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:31 PM
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Presence of loving parents is important for building self esteem, and loving oneself. Good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:26 PM
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Random question: Do you think women aren't generally attracted to masculine and aggressive partners over feminine and passive partners? If so, does certain kind of stress not excite and keep a woman attracted? On the other hand, does passivity, predictability, and familiarity not grow contempt in a long term relationship, which causes many marriages to end up dead bedroomed or divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:14 AM
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The only limitation for older men is their physical strength to keep it going in bed. But with good diet, lifestyle, and exercise men can stay potent and strong well until 70s. With reasonable amount of wealth, good personality, and good looks, all women are within their dating pool. Unfortunately for women no matter how good they take care of themselves or how much money they make their fertility loss cannot be prevented
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:24 PM
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Ick is the right term here. Just as wonen have icks for men who do certain stuff, men can have them for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:41 AM
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And some women report to only orgasm during CNS or dubcon. Does this mean we need to normalize more BDSM and CNS roleplay? Its a problem only if you make it one. Communicate what you want. But dont blame men for womens inability to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:45 AM
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Lets give a simple example. Man and woman are married. Man married the woman because she is beautiful and he is attracted to her. Woman married the man for his money and want a comfortable lifestyle. Nothing wrong with either. However, man gets orgasm during sex because she turns him on. Woman doesnt orgasm because shes not sexually attracted to him. Boom we have an orgasm gap. Solution? Women should marry men that turns them on, even if theyre broke. But is this a problem? Not really. Both side…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:54 AM
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Reminds me of a funny cartoon. Bro vs Wade https://youtu.be/-FC1IRiJ9x0?si=4-u9S8yne5iYIpiq
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:44 AM
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Can you see yourself saying the same regarding marriage? "Why does he expect me to stop partying just because we are married?" Or are you going to complain that he wasted 5 years of your life and didnt propose to you while you were still partying. And women ask why men dont want to settle. Maybe you should have a serious conversation with your bf. What each expects out of the relationship. Tell him you have no intention of settling down for marriage or have kids, so you will party as much as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:00 AM
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If a man stays with a woman he doesnt know, HE could be accused as being a stalker by the woman, and who will the police believe? The woman. Its much more dangerous for a MAN to get involved with a woman he doesnt know in todays society. Youre basically giving her the keys to your house. If she is normal, then great. You dont get accused falsely and spend 10 years in prison. If she is crazy, then your life is literally over. A woman doesnt need to worry about that because its less likely the pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:32 AM
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Women recieving protection from men is a social contract since dawn of history. But the condition is, he will only protect HIS woman. A partner or family member. In the past, men had more rights than women. Which also meant more responsibility. Men protecting women was considered chivalrious and encouraged. The common romantic story goes, man saves woman from danger, woman falls in love with him. This encourages men to do more acts of heroism. In the modern era, women have same rights if not mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:26 AM
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So what would be the advice you would give for a man looking to have sex with you? If they followed it to the iota, then you will smash?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:25 AM
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Counterpoint to points https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings. Being the physically weaker means you dont get very far starting violence. Doesnt mean theyre more rational. For men, fighting is important part of life since history. A man that was weak and could not fight would not get women or pass on his genes. However you do have a point about men doing anything for sex. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:17 AM
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Men that want to settle down and commit to 1 woman get cheated on or dumped because he is too boring and women turned on by a man who keeps his other options open. Why is it that women are the initiators of opening up their marriages 2/3 of the time? https://www.askmen.com/news/dating/survey-finds-women-more-likely-to-propose-open-relationships.html Arent women happy with the man who settled down for her? Maybe those men that arent settling down for you, know that once they do that, then you won…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:14 AM
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Its literally the opposite of what you describe. Women get to have sex, men dont. So what if youre called a slut? Go bang 100 dudes. Just dont complain when no man wants to marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:10 AM
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If everyone else is doing ONS, and you dont do ONS then youre not relatively promiscuous. In western society a man works with what hes got
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:09 AM
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Arent women the ones that slut shame other women the most? Ive never seen a man complain about sluts. Only refuse to marry or commit to a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:20 PM
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No, sluts are women who have no self respect and chase depraved hedonistic pleasure with a large number of men, making her unmarriageable and unworthy of commitment by most men. Incels are men who just tried their best and still failed to get a partner. And fun fact. Women slut shame and police slut behavior more than men. Men like sluts because they give sex. Women hate sluts because they take attention of men they desire using cheap tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:54 PM
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Dread or dead. Seems to be the trend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:50 PM
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Men and women want different things. Women call men incels. Men call women sluts. Same difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:34 AM
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Tell her you need sex for a happy life. If she doesnt care about that, then she should have no problem if he fucked other women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:41 AM
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No one is surprised about that. But women are expected to live up to the standards they set for others. If they want a man that fits their standards they have to be the woman that fits his.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:33 AM
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And the man will probably never marry such a woman, regardless of whether she sleeps with him or not. Men generally want to sleep with a hot woman. Men generally want to marry a woman who is not promiscuous. So youre going to get different complaints depending on what the goal of the man is. Reminds you of the Date Fuck Marry challenge: Name 3 women and choose which you would date, fuck, or marry. This implies the women men want to be FWB with are not necessarily the same one they want to marry.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:28 AM
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Simple. Men want a woman to be their partner and sleep with them. They also dont want those women sleeping with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:47 AM
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And this is why traditional societies since time immemorial made it into law that women were second class citizens to men. By law, men were above women. Which caused resentment by women by limiting their individual bargaining power, but ALSO caused greater attraction to a great portion of male population by the women. When a man passed the rite of passage in whatever culture he was in (fighting a wolf in Ancient Sparta, or a victorious battle in Japan), then he was acknowledged as a MAN by socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:04 AM
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If you actually follow BTS you will realize that their personality and actions are highly masculine. Women are more attentive to the story and personality than you realize. They are able to keep their emotions in control, stay positive, respectful, mature, and generate camadarie among brothers, as well as preaching wisdom. By contrast a jacked, ripped man who constantly takes selfies flexing his muscles for instagram, getting triggered over small things, seeking outside validation, desparate to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:54 AM
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As a Korean, I can say that Korea has a unique culture where almost all men are required to serve in the military where they learn how to fight, overcome great challenges, and be part of a brotherhood that works as a team, which are all traditionally masculine features. No matter how visually effeminate korean men can portray themselves on media, in the eyes of Korean women, their masculinity is NEVER in doubt because they are all required to serve in the military, which is a duty only bestowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:47 AM
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This will cause downfall of society because sex is literally the ONLY reason men work harder to make more money than they need for the bare necessities of survival and entertainment. Lights will go off, streets would be unguarded by police, military will be understaffed, roads unmaintained, food prices soar, trash not picked up, It goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:43 AM
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According to CNN, the US is a patriarchy because most politicians are men. But the fact is, half of the voters are women. There would be no patriarchy if all women only voted for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:42 AM
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As a consequence a society where women make the rules is bound to make women miserable more than anything. Men can just distract themselves with entertainment and pleasures offered by technology. Or even prostitution. But women cant be satisfied by what is under their control. Men desire peace and order. By contrary, its chaos and drama, a roller coaster of emotions that brings pleasure to a woman. They cant get what their body desires because their mind would be against it. If they get what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:36 AM
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The only way to understand this is, they want to tame the toxic masculine men, and then once thats done, find it boring, so exit and find another toxic masculine man, tame and domesticate him, exit, and so on. The point of the excercise isnt to be with one type of man forever and ever. Its to prove her own power over a man, by being able to change him. And women are turned off by men that they have power over. Which causes them to find more challenging men that cant be tamed. Eventually this hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:26 AM
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The guys have heard many stories of opening themselves up and emotionally trying to bond to their girlfeind and immediately get cheated on or dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:16 AM
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That would be impossible in a developed society because a man would do anything for a woman he lives, and most men and women would therefore continue supporting womens rights. However if society collapses and is replaced, then small radical juntas can impose their will on others. For example the Taliban.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:10 AM
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Women's suffrage was primarily driven by the government's need to get women to contribute more to the World War efforts when men have gone off to battle. Most women were opposed to the idea of universal suffrage because it also meant equal responsibility. Men have also served to protect their countries and put themselves in dangerous occupations to feed the families. And dying from that. Your point? Women had freedom in anarchy. But they didnt want to live in anarchy because it meant as the weak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:57 AM
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The government doesnt even need to take away rights. What rights do men or women have in anarchy? They have all the rights but also no rights at all. The strongest make the rules. Smart women in anarchy will pair bond with a reliable man that fits the minimum standards to ensure her survival. Smart woman knows that having fun flings will get no commitment from a single man with self respect. This what drove chastity, not arbitrary rules. Yes the rules existed, but they came into place for a reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:53 AM
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And who gave the rights to women? The men did. Men protected women from danger. When men created a safe developed society where women can be single and protected, and technology that required less human labor women saw less value of men, and increase theirbstandards. That causes men to give up on working hard to maintain society infrastructure and services. These systems wont run themselves. And when society declines who will protect womens rights? The woman in wild west didnt live with a husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:33 AM
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The situation will correct itself when society deteriorates to a point that having any male partner that can protect you and is not a total psycho is actually a net positive to your own well being, because of how dangerous society inevitably becomes to people living alone when the economy stagnates and public services become underfunded. Which was the primary driver of pair bonding relationship since dawn of human civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:27 AM
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Men want consistency. If you want equality, then be masculine. Carry the loads. Pay for dinners. Lead conversations. Bear a traditionally mans burden, and dont just expect everything to be handed on a silver platter. There are men who like dominant women, moreso than women who like submissive men. If you want to be treated like a princess, then dont seek equality. Accept your place in the hierarchy but you get to choose the man that is best for you. Dominant yet respectful. Assertive yet kind. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:18 AM
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A man she is married to for 30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:13 AM
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If the guy is looking for someone to hook up with or casual relationship, virgin is a turn off. If the guy is looking to settle down and marry, virgin is a green flag. Of course it depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:07 AM
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Not an option if you want children
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:44 AM
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Humor
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:36 AM
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Yet according to a survey of USC students, when asked what they wanted their potential partner to be, Women answered Successful and the breadwinner : 54% Financially dependent on me: 0% Equal positions in life: 46% By contrast, men answered Successful and the breadwinner : 22% Financially dependent on me: 25% Equal positions in life: 53% If even educated young women from a liberal US university in California are like this, imagine the rest of the world. Most women want their partner to be the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:42 PM
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Did not say that. I said, its not oppression. Not "its ok"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:33 AM
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But many teenagers such as 15 year olds clearly have the ability to drive (and some do, illegally) yet are barred from driving because the law says the age floor is 16. So they are capable but prevented from doing so, as you say. Hence that is oppression? Teenagers younger than 14 cannot work due to child labor laws. According to the reasoning, its oppression to hire children to work and make their own money. But many 13 year olds are very mature for theur age and definitely can do simple jobs i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:09 AM
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Women were treated same as children. The 10 year old child wasnt allowed to have bank accounts. But the parents fed and clothed and sheltered the child. By your logic, children are oppressed even today. Why arent you protesting in the streets demanding voting rights, financial freedom, right to work in factories, military draft for children? Isnt independence the best thing in the world? And quite frankly society doesnt judge women for acting lile children. But for men we have terms like Man chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:12 AM
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Many men would love to stay at home while a woman brings home the bacon. So why dont more women marry househusbands? Fact is, this type of man is not attractive to a woman. Because fact is, women have always preferred that the man go out and bring back money while the women stay home than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:09 AM
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Under strict christian society, men were not alcoholics. Christianity protected women from all those social ills and vices of men you describe. Not saying every sungle household was perfect, but in fact alcoholism became a result of declining religiosity. Most violence women recieve is in the home. Most violence men recieve is outside the home. Whats the point? How about death rates disparity between men and women? Men are more likely to die from violence than women. Guess why? The men are fight…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:05 AM
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You have to realize that, as long as a guy has hobbies he is passionate about and get consistent sex from a woman that is kind, understanding, and supportive of him, he doesnt need so much pussy in his life. If you had all the money in the world there is only so much water you can drink. I think the MAIN advantage of being super desirable is that you can lock down one woman who has the values and personality and appearance you want in your partner. And you can pursue your other passions that don…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:12 AM
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24% difference is actually a bigger disparity than the 19% difference i projected. I assumed people would have more self respect for both genders. That is the only point i was wrong. In other words, men are 50% more likely to divorce a cheating spouse than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:25 PM
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My stats were just conjectures to solidify a point. Your stats support my claim that men are more likely to divorce cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:21 PM
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No longer? Youre implying that they used to tolerate said wandering dicks. Took them long enough to figure that out. A man would never tolerate a wandering pussy in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:19 PM
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Youre confusing cause and result. I said, if a woman cheats, the couple has a higher chance of breaking up versus when a man cheats. Not saying who cheats more or who initiates divorces more. Look at it this way, if a woman cheats, the man will break up 99%. When man cheats, it's probably around 80%. Still high, but not as high. How many times have you heard of the woman who keeps returning to her abusive, cheating boyfriend, thinking he will change this time? By contrast, you rarely hear the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:12 AM
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Your son says he was just wooing her because women dont always give a straight answer and there was no force or violence and she was totally open to him after a brief chat and came onto him. If the son is telling the truth then you still think this is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:08 AM
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Well heres a scenario. Your son asked a woman to smash. She refused. He asked again and again. And finally she conceded and they slept together. She regretted it next day and filed charges. Its considered a crime to have sex with a woman who willingly agreed after multiple requests because thats coercion. The woman claims she felt threatened and scared that he would retaliate if she refused and thus, it was rape even if she consented. Your son says he was just wooing her because women dont alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:21 PM
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Biologically speaking women dont have to worry about their child being some other woman's child. Only that men will create more offspring while shes pregnant and then divert his resources to the other woman and her chuld. Men have to worry about their woman being pregnant with another man's child, and investing his resources in the wrong child. This issue existed for tens of thousands of years. Hence modern humans are wired to act in ways that maximize their DNA expression. Women will feel threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:06 PM
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When a woman is really invested in a man she will pay for 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:29 AM
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Women dont like needy men. Hence making the first move automatically lowers his value in her eyes. Men like willing women. Women making the move increases her value in his eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:23 AM
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You have to wire your brain to have a good boy bad boy mode. If your girl is beeing a good girl you treat her nice. If she is being a bad girl you ignore her or treat her with disrespect. Carrot and stick. If youre all nice she gets bored and exits. If youre all bad she gives up hope and leaves. You gotta mix it up and take the girl on a rollercoaster ride of emotions and thats how a woman feels like "you actually care", and sees a future with you. Evolutionarily speaking a man who has both a da…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:18 AM
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Not shameful if he turned down an opportunity. That makes him more respectable. But its shameful if he had no opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:56 AM
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Calling woman a slut is the insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:55 AM
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The milkman she is cheating with is being desired clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:53 AM
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When the married woman bangs the milkman while his provider husband is off at work to acquired said resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:43 AM
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Well thats what Im saying. Without sex, theyre a very valuable, and intimate friend that enriches your life. Sex just adds the cherry on top, but you can still value rest of the cake without sex. You can love your mother very much and she adds much to your life but the dynamic is different from a wife you can have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:45 PM
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Then that person is just as good as a same sex friend or sibling. Not a spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:24 PM
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Imagine there is a drug that makes women taller or stronger. Only women though. Id expect a lot more women will suddenly find a bigger portion of men undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:10 PM
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All the incels were rounded up and conscripted to be sent to wars. Those that survived and emerged victorious would find themselves a war bride after they killed off the enemy's men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:02 AM
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Assuming all else is equal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:22 AM
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Yes. And in 20 years, I will be their best friend(s) for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:12 PM
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Korea is the one Asian country where passport sis outnumber passport bros. The expectations of the men are perhaps even higher than the expectations of women. For example, men are expected to provide a house upon marriage. That's 2 million dollars for you if you want to live near seoul. Korean style feminism takes all the benefits from western feminism (without the responsibility) and all the benefits from confucian patriarchy (without the responsibilities).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:48 PM
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So you only want to date men who are already dating or married to a woman their age. Got it. Im sure the older women will be happy to hear this news.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:48 AM
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Word!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:02 AM
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So in the case that the man owns a fair bit of property/assets that earns him a passive income, and has a lot of free time, this is totally fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:20 PM
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Are you aware that even billionares can be gamers? For example Elon Musk expressed being a fan of Overwatch and Dota 2. Not saying there is anything wrong. But just trying to understand your mind. A high value man, 10/10 in looks, makes 500k, good sense of humor, very loving and caring, excellent in bed, is suddenly a swipe left because he plays Pac Man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:39 PM
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Spitting facts lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:36 PM
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So now we need an actual gamer dad who is knowledgeable about which games are harmful or wholesome, so that the kids avoid the toxic ones and explain why. Gamer dad can actually be good for the child's upbringing in this respect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:35 PM
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So no violent games?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:30 PM
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Maybe she wanted to be railed on the top of the bonnet. Unfortunately sometimes a man's love for his car comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:28 PM
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Gaming isn't even offered as an option on that survey, so RIP. Also, manosphere can't be a hobby. It's a noun, not a verb. Might as well add "misogyny" or "rape". Those will be listed even lower on the list. Porn isn't a hobby either. "Masturbation" would make more sense. But then that's a habit. Not a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:25 PM
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Yes, with the prevalence of couple friendly games like "It Takes Two" this is a great opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:21 PM
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Good to know! It's interesting how this aspect elicits such a strong reaction in some, and not in others. It also matches some of my original assumptions on why it gives the ick. However, imagine this. What about a casual gamer who also designs his own game and makes money off of it? Does that suddenly change the hobby from an ick to a more attractive feature? Also how do you reconcile the fact that some highly successful individuals like Elon Musk are fans of video games? Are they an ick?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:13 PM
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I respect your standards. However don't assume that there are no healthy gamers. Even on this post, we have women saying they play games with their husbands/bf on a regular basis without letting it get in the way of the relationship. It's fine if you are just turned off by men playing games, and whatever reasoning for it. But healthy gamers that are contrary to your first description are not rare by any accounts. Even a good looking, alpha male, millionare can play games. I really appreciate how…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:11 PM
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That makes sense. 2 hours a day is a general figure, not to be followed religiously. It could be seen as an average of sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:06 PM
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Of course priorities come first. With 3 kids it can be difficult to fit 2 hours each day until the kids are older. We are assuming that there IS free time, and whether it is still a source of frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:02 PM
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Home by 6, eat dinner. 30 min walks together at 7. Back at 7:30. Chores, chatting until 8:30. Gaming until 10:30. Snuggling, sex, etc until 12am. Wake at 7:45am. Make and eat breakfast. Commute to work by 9am. Eat lunch at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:00 PM
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Thx for the input
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:41 AM
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Then swap the times lol. Game till 10. Sex till 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:41 AM
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I thought sex 2-3 times a week was considered still a lot for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:40 AM
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I get what you mean. I can nitpick the time schedule and add all of this but if you see an issue with gaming in itself nothing will change your preferences. Thats ok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:39 AM
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Yup its important to stay fit. Which is why tht was past of the condition in my post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:29 AM
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https://youtu.be/N6uHzh5KPh8?si=GFMhpnCrjqZFzQ9p Its at the top. And i agree. Addiction is never good. For example, drinking on occasion is ok. Alcoholic is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:22 AM
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This is fair. Everyone can have preferences. Just like how some men can filter out women who watch tik tok shorts or have Instagram accounts. It doesnt have to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:20 AM
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Get home by 6, eat dinner, spend time with partner and household chores until 10pm. Play until 12am. Sleep till 8am. Arrive at work by 9am. Not that impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:17 AM
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Im glad you have a healthy dynamic with your bf. This sounds very ideal!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:15 AM
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Your POV is fair. But there are women commenting even on this post that expressed their refusal to accept even the 2 hours per day, so its false to say women dont express issues unless its 6 hours per day. And thats fine. Everyone has their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:12 AM
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Thank you for your honest input!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:08 AM
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Very wholesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:00 AM
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Peak fertility is correlated to attraction. That is how biology works. Mens brains are wired to find the most fertile period as the most attractive due to natural selection. A man who wasted resources and possible threat of death trying to pursue a less fertile woman is less likely to pass on his genes to the next generation. This applies even if the man doesnt want kids. His brain is still wired to be attracted to women who are most able to have kids. (Same as how people want sex even if they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:17 AM
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Thats crazy! I hope you still have plenty of good girl friends to chill with. You basically named the big 3 toxic female archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:54 PM
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Brain may be still developing at 18-25 but that is also when a woman is most fertile. Fact is, men are most established in their careers at 30 as opposed to 20, and you need a stable income to support a family. And if you also want to minimize chances your baby is born with defects, its good to have a baby with a woman in their reproductive prime. So when you focus on the well being of unborn baby, to be maximally healthy AND have resources to grow up in a stable environment you get a married co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:50 PM
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Well thats where the effort makes a difference. A woman who makes the effort to show her affection and kindness is going to have an advanrage over the woman who is slightly prettier but have a bitchy attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:29 PM
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If they didnt then humanity wouldnt have existed for 10s of thousands of years. Where did all the mammoth meat the hunters acquired? Did men eat it all by themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:27 PM
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Marriages happened in the past with women much younger throughout history so its a no brainer that some men would be attracted to younger. Even in some US states AOC is 16. In the end its their business. As long as its not illegal its really not anyone's place to judge. Both parties clearly get something out of it, and the prevalence of long happy marriages with a large age gap shows that if both parties are happy then criticism is premature. Of course it makes some people uncomfortable. Just li…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:23 PM
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No, you might have not put ENOUGH effort to pursue them. If you really wanted someone then you would have put enough effort, and it would have succeeded. At that point you're moving goalposts. Call it cope, whatever. It's not lying. If you say it with confidence, then they believe you. In fact you know all those times women say to men (or vice versa) "I cant believe you're single! You're such an amazing person!". You gotta first make them feel like this before you give the explanation. But it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:39 PM
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As long as a straight number isnt given, its very very hard to determine whether this is fine or not. Laws are there for a reason. If the majority thinks Age of Consent of 18 is still very very young, then raise it by 2 years (as well as the voting age). That's called democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:29 PM
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No, imagine this. Someone asks you why youre single. Option 1, you say "im mediocre looking, dont have much money, or anything that allows me to compete with the other guys". Option 2 "The right girl just hasnt come along yet that Ive found the motivation to make her mine. But you never know" wink Are you lying by saying the option 2 when option 1 is actually also true? They can BOTH be true. Use your creativity, and dont be such a gloomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:39 AM
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No, just find a different explanation of why he is a virgin than "ive been trying to get laid so bad but no girl will want me". Dont lie that youre not a virgin. That is cringe. Just dont let the vrigin tag affect you. Have some self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:33 AM
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What you wrote is cringe AF. I really dont want to read that a second time. No thanks. Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:30 AM
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Women want to be with men that 1. Make more money than them. 2. Taller than them. 3. More emotionally mature than them. 4. More experienced than them (in every way) 5. Stronger than them. 6. Braver than them. 7. Wiser than them. 8. Smarter than them. 9. Better conversationalist than them. The list goes on. Surprise surprise, the more of these boxes you check, the man also becomes older than them. And now the men are the manipulators for simply going where the demand is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:28 AM
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Statistics on that? And how many older married couples have dead bedrooms, and maybe this is partially the cause of this? Many of those men wont be looking for alternatives if their wives didnt turn frigid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:23 AM
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Then they are a turn off for women. Because it means he wanted girls and failed. Because he had no rizz. Definition of incel is, INVOLUNTARY Celibate. The next girl is not gonna be a charity case and be his first. Girls want pre selected males. Even better, a man that no girl can attain. This is where virginity can become a strength. If he wasnt interested in sex in the first place because of higher callings. For example a Priest that gave his body to God. If a woman can seduce a priest she has …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:14 AM
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Looks dont feed your kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:52 AM
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This argument is usually sour grapes logic by older women who feel bitter that men their age isnt interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:21 AM
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As chance would have it women generally want to marry a man who are more established in their careers, make more money, own their own property, etc. If 20 year old women enjoyed marrying men their own age that didnt have a cent in the bank and no established career, emotionally less mature, etc then this phenomenon wouldnt be as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:19 AM
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Actually this is false. It matter WHY the man is a virgin. If he is an incel that tried to be a manwhore and failed, that's a red flag. If he went monk mode and focused on his dreams and rejected boatloads of women throwing themselves at him, that's a green flag. The tricky part is that women love to probe a man's vulnerabilities to test his fortitude. You have to not let the tag of virgin affect you AT ALL. Men will be their own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:24 AM
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The group of women who want to lock down the top 10% is not small by any means. Majority of women simply don't want to marry the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:23 AM
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lmao. You are delusional. In every instance of human history, the only thing stopping women from being enslaved were other men who were willing to rescue them. The Nazis did have breeder cages. Guess who defeated them and freed the women? The Allied male soldiers. And even in the most fascist, patriarchial dystopia, the second most powerful person in that society is always the wife of the dominant male. So don't make it sound like women aren't complicit in the enslavement of other women. This ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:57 AM
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They need to self improve in order to get the men they want. And to get him to propose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:54 AM
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This is reddit. There are even confessions of criminals. Are you serious? People can be honest if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:23 AM
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And do they regret giving birth to these children and wish they can go back and unborn them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:51 AM
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From my experience and experience with many other men who have been in relationships, women complained when youre not being controlling enough, or punish pedastalization. Apparently if you dont make demands on your woman it means "you dont care". And they lose the tingles and want to be called a good girl by a more assertive man. So if anything, its women that corrupt the loving and gentle men theyre with by wanting to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:13 AM
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It seems like abusive and controlling men still exist. Actually even more than ever because everyone is free to do what they want without social obligations. There are no end of women on tik tok complaining about how abusive their partners are, how they cheated, and still go back to them time after time. At least a God Fearing man who went to church in the olden days was pressured by a community to uphold moral principles, and fathers vetted the potential suitors to make sure his daughter was ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:07 AM
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Or you can move to a country that actually values mens contributions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:05 AM
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Actually there is no reason to worry about this happening. When feminists win, society grounds to a halt because no one will have children anymore. (Women gain nothing from becoming a mother according to them) Those feminist countries will implode into obscurity and patriarchial countries that maintain a high birth rate will simply take over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:03 AM
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Well are there anyone in this subreddit that have kids, who regret giving birth to them? If they could go back in time and didnt have those kids, would they do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:01 AM
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I was not talking about physical care. Love and support was implied to be moral support. Even a phone call to parents is a form of support. Now do any of those elderly in hospice care regret having children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:58 AM
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Agreed. We should also tell women to self improve. Not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:14 AM
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So youre just going to dismiss all the fillial children who maintain a happy and healthy bond with their parents until old age and bring them tons of fufillment and happiness. Just because unfillial children also exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:12 AM
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Sorry i changed my comment because it was unfair to put responsibility on you when youre technically not her descendant. But in any case she indirectly benefitted from her sibling having children. In some small way, because at least you care!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:18 AM
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For every one of those cases there are loads of happy extended families that care for one another. If she was completely alone she would be even more miserable. Even being able to complain about ungrateful children is a luxury. Money is of no use when youre 80 years old and have dementia. You might as well say there is no point eating 3 healthy meals a day because there are people who died of unforeseen accidents even when they ate 3 healthy meals a day anyways, so its no guarantee of a healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:13 AM
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But where exactly? Do you have reading issues? Nowhere in my comment did I say about who sacrifices more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:12 AM
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My personal opinion, but people who had children will generally be less miserable in their later life than people who never had children. When all your friends have died of old age, your only true friends will be family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:48 AM
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I dont see where our statements conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:45 AM
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Clearly not completely alone when you exist. Yes youre away, but you can still or call visit once in a while and that makes a world of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:34 AM
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Children usually have stronger bonds with mothers than fathers. If the children know who made more sacrifices, they usually account for all of this in their own choices of which parent they care about more. For example if, men are absent or abusive or a drunk, etc, and the mother worked hard to nurture and raise the kids, the kids 100% will love and repay the mother more than the father. The opposite holds true as well. You reap what you sow. Ive never once in my life met one mother who regrette…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:30 AM
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Yes they get children that love and support them and provide company even when she reaches old age
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:03 AM
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Maybe the men make more money because they HAVE to make money. Women on the other hand can pursue their passions in liberal arts and stick to part time jobs and still dont have to worry about becoming homeless at age 60 because they have a husband that will foot the bill for necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:53 PM
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Lmao. According to this logic its my mother who financially abused my father even tho she is a SAHM. Some people just cant wrap around their heads that a man actually doesnt want to constantly abuse his wife his kids just because they rely on him. Its the woman's job to properly vet a responsible and honest man. And in the olden days the woman's parents vetted such men for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:01 AM
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This is why prostitution is illegal in many countries. Its incredibly easy for people in positions of power to abuse that power for sexual abuse. And its rarely clear cut if it was consensual or abuse, which makes prosecuting such cases even harder. In fact some hierarchial sexual relationships are outright banned in some countries even if you can prove it is consensual. For example between professor and student, officer and soldier, etc. IMO, a sexual relationship betwee boss and employee shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:27 AM
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Harvey straight up raped and sexually assaulted women against their will, among other things. If he only had consensual sex he would not be in prison. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/nyregion/harvey-weinstein-sentencing.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:52 AM
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My gf actually says she envies being a guy because the bros seem to get along with each other much better abd have lots of fun. So i can see where youre going with the post. I appreciate womens' ability to multitask very well and their ability to give birth to the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:48 AM
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This is similar to how hollywood casting jobs are offered only when the actress offers sexual services. Or when female startup CEOs are asked for sex by venture investors to get that Series A funding. It sounds like sexual abuse and personally find it gross. But if those individuals had talent, then they would recieve the jobs or investment regardless of sex. Only a dumb investor would miss out on a potential jackpot just because he didnt get his dick sucked, and there are many other competitors…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:41 AM
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Promiscuity equals higher chance for woman to seek pleasure even after marriage. Not saying its that much higher, but more likely nevertheless. Some African and Middle eastern cultures circumcize girls (and this is wrong) specifically to prevent them from feeling much pleasure. In many traditional societies the men wont marry a woman unless shes a virgin. But theyre open tonhaving sex with women that are not a virgin. So virginity is a virtue prized for marriage, but offers little for dating or …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:43 PM
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If someone wanta to spend a lifetime with you, then there is no need to fret about teaching you a few sex skills. Just 1 month of experience and youre go to go for 50 years. Clearly those who saw your inexperience as a turn off didnt plan to tie the knot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:40 PM
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Its less of "im the only person she had sex with" and more of "i dont have to worry about raising another man's child"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:05 AM
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When looking for casual relationships, then sure low N count is disfavorable because the guy wants pleasure. When looking for a woman to commit and settle down with, and devote all his resources and faith and the possibility of being a mother to his children, then low N count is preferred. This is why it can be misleading to consider men who wan to date high N couunt women. There is no guarantee he will marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:55 PM
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Thats overthinking it. Evolutionary forces simply made men wired to be disgusted by the possibility of competing mens' DNA cuckolding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:53 PM
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Thats overthinking it. Evolutionary forces simply made men wired to be disgusted by the possibility of competing mens' DNA cuckolding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:50 PM
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However the difference is, men care less if the woman is a virgin because she was physically unable to hook up with many guys. For example, grew up in a strict family, or a small isolated town, etc. Its the FACT that she remained chaste for whatever reason, that makes her valuable in the eyes of a man who values chastity. There is no getting bitter over "if she could have she would have". From a womans POV it seems that a man's ability to pull women is in itself attractive, regardless of whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:25 PM
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Depends on who likes who more. If the girl wants guy friends then she should be ok with the bf having female friends and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:31 AM
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Im sorry that you had to go through such experiences. You should stay away from narcisstic abusers. Vetting for good men in itself is a challenging task. However i was referring to people who are single, and their reasons for it. Your exes, despite thinking youre not good enough, still chose to be your partner. So this was NOT a sufficient reason to be single. The fact remains, that if you ask any man why he is single, or in fact doesnt have a harem of 30 beaufiful women, the reason he will give…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:20 AM
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Instead of complaining that your partner wants to replace you, it may be helpful to ask yourself, what could you have done differently to become irreplaceable in his or her heart. As long as the wife didnt change her attitudes towards him after marriage (nagging, dead bedroom, disrespect, etc) a good man will find other hobbies to occupy his mind that doesnt involve fucking young women every day. In fact that shit gets tiring after age 40 or so. A man rather drink with his buddies, play games, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:39 AM
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"Im fine" basically means youre darned if you do darned if you dont. If you let things be, youre a dense mfker because a real man would know shes not fine and do something about it. If you keep inquiring whats wrong, youre not giving her space and putting words in her mouth. Maybe an experienced partner would find a way to make her feel better by going on a date, preparing surprise gifts, without inquiring whats wrong. Then she will feel comfortable and talk about it. In my experience, when your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:30 AM
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This is why its common for older men to marry younger women. In fact, a necessity in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:17 AM
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If the man is the sole breadwinner its reasonable to expect submission from his partner. It doesnt mean blind compliance. Healthy communication is important. It doesnt mean criticism isnt allowed. Innfact, constructive criticism is important for a family unit to progress. But if one of the partners is designated as the family head, then he or she must be trusted to make sound decisions on the family's behalf, after taking all things intp consideration. When there is discord and conflict, it brew…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:10 AM
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But what if the reason the partner was not initiating sex more often was NOT because he wasn't into you, but a misunderstanding that YOURE not into it, and don't desire them back? Then a higher quality communication would be saying something lke "Im just letting you know, I still find you totally hot, and down to smash whenever, you know? Just say the word"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:50 PM
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On the flip side, a woman who is already old or unattractive will find it much more challenging to find a fulfilling long term relationship. However, the pinnacle of what makes a man attractive is not his physical appearance but a "galaxy" of potential inside of him. And this can be worked on no matter the age, appearance, status, etc. Therefore, for a determined individual, being a man is a blessing. For the lazy, it is a curse. The opposite is true for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:46 PM
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Asking men why they gave up on dating & relationships: I'm not good enough for them Asking women why they gave up on dating & relationships: The men aren't good enough for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:50 AM
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I can understand where you're coming from, because (minus the pro choice part) I can attest that my GF who already loves me dearly loves it even more when I do all those things you listed. But this is not what caused the attraction in the first place. And it's not looks, height, or wealth like some people may assume. It's actually personality and behavior. Some behaviors cause attraction without the women actually being aware of it. And once that attraction is in place, the things you listed wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:08 AM
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So a single father who is very good with his kid is a prize. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:01 AM
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So the second choice is basically your mother or sister (minus the once a year sex). Why would someone need two mothers in their life? First choice is basically what a king or lord of olden times had to deal with anyways. Most would rather be the king.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:29 AM
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I just learned what a homie head was thanks to this post. From its name, it sounds like a guy friend giving another guy friend head. aka Brojob
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:45 AM
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Maybe I should adjust my previous statement to, men want the woman to offer pay for him but ultimately want to pay for her instead. So instead of offering to split, you should offer to buy the meal, and then to make things fair, he will buy the next meal. Or if he buys one meal you buy the next one. Then technically it's 50-50, not necessarily at the same exact time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:38 AM
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How about the wife just gets a 10% allowance of the husband's paycheck that she can do with as she pleases. She can save it if she wants or spend it on personal luxuries no questions asked. The rest of the husband's paycheck goes into keeping the lights on, food on the table, and other living expenses that are agreed on by both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:36 AM
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Men want to be given the offer to split the check BUT they want to ultimately be the one paying. Because men want to pay for a good woman and a good woman would offer to split the check.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:31 AM
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Complaining about men approaching them is a way of bragging that they're beautiful. So of course they'll also complain if no one approaches them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:29 AM
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Those impulsive women aren't wife material in the first place. He will live a happier life focusing on himself, building an inner philosophy that is unshakable by outside forces, and then choosing a good woman who didn't have a hoe phase during high school. When your son is 25 with maturity and a life together, then he will be much more attractive to an actually smart and self respecting 20 year old woman than another 20 year old bad boy who has no plans. His future wife doesn't need to be the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:16 AM
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Then choose the woman who hasn't gone through the hoe phase. Did you know that older men and younger women tend to marry in higher rates than vice versa? In his late 20s he can find a woman in her early 20s who is kind and nurturing and has enough self respect to wait for someone that appreciates her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:03 AM
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South Korea is the only developed country that prohibits porn. Let's just say, this is impossible to enforce and doesn't really fix the issue. Since production of porn is illegal in Korea, they will just consume JAV instead, and Korean AV actors go to Japan to do their work. So in essence, the Japanese government takes a cut from taxes earned from Korean models, making Korean porn, for Korean consumers. A better way to fix the harmful effects of porn is teaching youths about the impact that porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:10 AM
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What is your opinion on animated porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:03 AM
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A dog cannot bear children however. There is nothing wrong with a dominant husband and a submissive wife if it is consensual. The economy is too polarized to allow a traditional gender role comeback, but a kind and submissive wife is a strong motivator for a dominant man to work hard and succeed in his career to bring home the bacon to provide for the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:00 AM
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The alpha males can marry the divine females. Problem solved. No need to mock them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:56 AM
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Thank you for your encouragement. I already found my person actually. Lot of guys want a good woman without being a good man himself. Christianity tends to promote moral values that are conducive of a functioning society in the absence of arbitrary laws that oppress one group or another. No wonder Christianity is more fervant with women than men. I wouldnt have been interested in religion at all if not for my gf who grew up in a household that used to be strict and christian. Equality and freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:47 AM
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Not only this but the culture also shifted considerably. Just 50 years ago, promiscuity was still largely shamed. Monogamous relationships were encouraged, and christianity played a larger role in peoples lives. Womens' status in society was also lower, even in America, the most progressive country. It was easy for women to appreciate a hardworking man providing for her and the family, even if he was not top 10%, when the alternative was much worse. All these factors played a part
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:25 AM
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Social media and internet only been around for one generation. Before, people just settled down for whoever was in town. Only after 1900s did food become plentiful enough for a taller human to not be evolutionary disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:10 AM
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But korean women dont actually prefer white men over koreans if you ask them lmao. Marriage rates between korean women and foreigners is abysmal compared tp vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:26 PM
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Actually its funny you mentioned this because Korean men and Japanese women intermarry in great quantities and express high levels of satisfaction. Much more than vice versa. For both countries the fundamental "issue", if it can be called an issue at all, is the progression of womens status in society despute the lack of progress in womens expectations from their partners. Say that traditionally, it was considered manly and masculine to be more educated and higher earning provider for the woman.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:44 PM
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Women want to tame the beast. Your gf wants the tamed version of you because she already has you. The stranger women want the beast. You dont go to a shop and pick out a fully built gundam modeling kit. You buy the box with the parts that are unbuilt, and then go home and build it yourself. Heres the catch. If the beast is tamed too easily she will get bored and find a more challenging beast to tame. If the beast is too difficult to tame she will lose patience and give up. It has to be juuuuust …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:44 AM
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A real problem is shaming of those who DONT want to have casual sex. Calling people incels and throwing around virgin as an insult. Both men and women are to blame for this. People want to justify their own actions and feel comforted theyre in the right, so they want to pressure others to do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:25 AM
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I would say even if the woman remained chaste before marriage, she can still be terrible to her husband if she thinks she could have done better. In those cases, the man should agree with her and let her do better and go on her way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:22 AM
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I think he means dont settle down for someone who will only fuck you once every 5 years, only to have children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:20 AM
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Agreed with you. In an ideal world everyone has a number above their heads that says how many hookups they had. But currently there is only a way to tell virgin or not virgin. Im sure many men dont really care if a woman as a virgin or just had a few committed relationships that didnt work out because their exes were aholes, but since its easy to fake it, can you blame men for playing it safe and preferring the virgin if all else is equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:19 AM
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To each their own. Some men, me included, dont consider sleeping with a multitude of women a priority in life. In fact, having so many women in your life is a liability rather than an asset. Increased chance of catching STDs, falsely accused of rape if I dont commit afterwards, etc. Not to mention that sex can get boring and tiring after a million times, if you dont have a real emotional connection with the person. I rather spend the time and money chasing so many women on building a business or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:15 AM
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Its because those men havent learned how to act in an attractive manner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:38 AM
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Women are gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:36 AM
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Actually my gf is everything Ive wanted from a woman. And i wouldnt have settled for anything less. Plays video games together. Sometimes board games. Willing to learn to play anything with me as long as its not too scary. Watches movies, anime, cartoons, documentaries, etc together. If I find passionate about something, and explain what I like about it, she is also passionate. Because she loves me and loves everything I like. Listens to any thoughts or philosophical musings, or stories from wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:01 AM
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Men have no problems dating 40 or even 50 year old women. Its just less likely that a man would marry them because of obvious reasons such as the possibility of the man wanting kids later on. Just dont shame older men and younger women relationships, and dont be bitter that so and so is not interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:37 AM
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Actually a lot of struggling and broke young men may be happy to marry an older woman that makes good money. But most women arent happy with stay at home husbands unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:28 AM
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Its because they dont want the 18 year olds to steal all the good older provider men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:17 AM
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And it also teaches how to give off high status vibes without actually being high status
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:15 AM
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If you wanna be my lover, you have got to give Taking is too easy, but that's the way it is -Spice Girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:25 AM
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You got it all wrong. Only the men that theyre not attracted to are shamed for having sexual desires
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:10 AM
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50 shades of Grey exists. Traditional romance novels exist. Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:05 AM
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Boy Love. Manga with romance between 2 handsome males that is catered to a female audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:00 AM
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So BL content shouldnt exist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:58 AM
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Either both should be traditional or neither should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:29 AM
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When she is not attracted to him yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:20 AM
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Looks also contribute to social status
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:56 PM
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You just said the answer in your question. You're a good looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:07 PM
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No I would rather get a more practical gift like a sweater
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:05 PM
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Youre being needlessly bitter. The OP asked, and I answered. Q: "Is it a red flag if a woman sleeps with you on the first date?" A: "No if its her first time doing this" You: Thats highly improbable. Youre not likely to meet such a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:34 AM
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Many womens' expectations of their ideal man is also highly improbable too. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:56 AM
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Sounds like the exact characteristics that make a woman attractive to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:02 AM
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So between a man that needs to ask for permission before making a move to kiss you or get kinky, and a man that decided for himself whether its the right mood to lean in for a kiss or get intimate, even while running the risk that you might not be in the mood, you want a man that asks for permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:58 AM
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If she has never slept with a man before but makes an exception for me then it is a big plus. It means we are highly likely to be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:42 AM
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Example of non sexist misogyny would be requesting women to split the bill and make everything 50 50. Requiring women to do all the physically difficult things men do in exactly the same amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:44 AM
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Better to date the bully than the kid that gets bullied
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:42 AM
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Yes if I am her first
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:31 AM
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So basically your first wife saw that marriage was a prize, and once she got it she no longer needed to make you happy. Sex became boring because she had nothing to work for anymore. No wonder redpill teaches men to withhold commitment in order to excite women with chaos and uncertainty. Its because of women like this that get turned off by safety and certainty. Id say she wasnt the one for you. Glad things worked out for your second marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:30 AM
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Because society says men and women are equal. But reality is not In the past it was accepted that men need to work hard to prove their worth, and that is just what it means to be a man. Modern society says gender equality is the new trend. The young men scratch their heads and say, "but I have a few questions. How come the women dont need to work hard during their 20s and get men with little effort?". The men are unhappy not because their lives suck. It just seems to suck more compared to women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:23 AM
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More like, by age 30 the men dont feel the need to commit to a long term relationship and marriage because he has more to lose and less to gain. He is not as horny as he used to be in his 20s, has more resources and life experience and finds fufillment in other things. Meanwhile the women face the opposite experience where they are increasingly more looking to marry and have children, after a string of short term relationships but by then ship has sailed. The issue has always neen young men. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:03 AM
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Im sure the men that left, left for reasons other than the woman out earning them. For example, the woman acting more entitled and b***hy as a result of making more money. Men that have the resources prefer to be the provider in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:04 PM
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Not when it is voluntary. For example, voting for your president is not oppression even if he leads your entire country.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:40 AM
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Christians are having more kids. https://ifstudies.org/blog/americas-growing-religious-secular-fertility-divide
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:25 AM
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Conservativism and liberalism is relative. Of course we are dealing with relat8ve conservativism. No one is advocating for ancient rome level of conservativism. In fact hunter gatherer societies were more progressive than modern day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:23 AM
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