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/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:43 AM
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I went to Ukraine myself. Got myself a wife and a baby. We live in US now. Her entire family is back home in a war zone. I wish I could bring them too. I tried but they don't want to go. It helps that I'm ethnically 50% Ukrainian myself. But I grew up in the States. And to some degree I did exactly what I am advocating for. If it's a real long term relationship. It's a good thing. If the man is using the woman. It's a bad thing. If the woman is using the man. It's a bad thing. If they are using …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:52 AM
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Right remember I said they only need to stay together for a few years. Emotions are great at keeping people together for years. But not necessarily a lifetime. I strongly doubt women are genetically programmed to find a better mate once they already have children. Men tend to mate guard. When you do that you put your life, your children's life and the life of your potential partner in jeopardy. Sure in 2022 the man will go to prison so there is a large deterrent there. In the wild he might just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:54 AM
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Just because something is ideal doesn't mean it's always common. Proper nutrition is ideal. Up until very recently it wasn't very common. In the animal kingdom there is all sorts of mating patterns. Some animals stay together to raise the kids. Other's fuck off as soon as the sex is done. Human's are built to raise children together. That is why we develop intense emotions for our significant other. It is useful when you need two people to tolerate each other for long periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:38 AM
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Right. If you went after women your league you'd be in a relationship right now. Or married with kids depending in your age. Had the same exact problem. Never wanted to date women in my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:33 AM
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Monogamy evolved in humans because our children are very fragile. They really need the parents to stay together for at least the first few years of life to have the best possible odds of survival. Monogamy is not something Christian assholes invented. It existed long before that. They just mandated it. Because in general it tends to be a good idea when children are involved. Human males have natural aggressive mate guarding behavior. Even if they are never taught to behave this way. It's innate.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:27 AM
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Ok ok I believe with both men and women the issue appears to be people trying to bat out of their league. Even if you're average looking or even above average looking. If you're constantly trying to date people better looking than you. You'll likely come across the red pill or even black pill stuff. Mostly because it will resonate with you. It's difficult to follow ideas you can't relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:24 AM
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What do you mean when you say "get red pilled"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:05 AM
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It's not attraction alone. But attraction is often an immutable point. Especially with guys that go overseas. Immutable meaning other things matter. But without attraction they don't. Does that make sense? My wife's best friend is a 28 year old Ukrainian girl. Very very attractive. She is dating a 55 year old man. In the States she would be a massive hit. In Ukraine it's the best she can get. If you're providing much better options. You're not taking advantage of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:27 PM
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Of course it's based on looks. We're talking about dating. What do you think men base it on? Women can base it on career or something of that nature. Men typically don't give a shit. We just virtue signal that we liked someone who we already found attractive for some other quality. In reality if she wasn't attractive her other qualities would be totally moot. It's just the way the world operates. It's just human nature. You may think it's wrong. And that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:16 PM
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Forget sex tourism. It's completely irrelevant to our discussion. I'm only talking about men who go overseas to snag a wife. You're a 5/10 (average) looking guy with an average income. You want a wife. You live in America. Contrary to popular belief you will likely have plenty of 4/10 and below available to you. But you don't want that. You'll have to work to get a 5/10. And from time to time you'll luck into a 6 or maybe even a 7. But those will treat you like shit cause they subconsciously kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:27 PM
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Using fire to wars off predators is a loophole. Using fire to cook food to make it safer is a loophole. Using sharp sticks to kill other animals for food is a loophole. That is how humans operate. You try to do the best you can with the tools at your disposal. I disagree though that you're taking advantage of the women. If your arguments are against sex tourism then you have a much sturdier ground to stand on. I'm talking about men who go to far away lands to find a wife which is a person you bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:35 PM
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I think you are missing the biologic nature of my argument. A western man in a poor country is hacking the system. He is probably not good looking or rich enough for high quality women at home. They have better options there. But in a poorer country his status rises up a lot. Also humans have this thing called emotional bonding. Especially after they have children. Sure some of the women end up abandoning their family. But it's not nearly as common as you think. Same with these guys being weirdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:03 AM
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Yeah that's how humans operate. At least we have for 1000s of years. Perhaps millions. I imagine our ape like ancestors behaved similarly. Women are very weak during the last trimester and even weaker after birth. The children are also very weak for the first few years. A good sturdy man that can take care of you is at a premium. That is why women care about things like status, money, class, talent etc. It's in their genes to care. You're coming to a shithole country with western money and the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:54 AM
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A lifestyle change. An ability to move up in the world. I was born in Soviet Union. It's difficult to explain what a momentous difference moving to a western nation makes. The life quality is incomparable. You're giving them and their children a better life. Something women are innately attracted to. Same way men are innately attracted to well shaped asses and firm perky titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:26 AM
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You're not taking advantage of them. You need them as bad as they need you. It's a mutually beneficial thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:04 AM
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Soviet bloc countries are technically second world countries and they are some of the best. Its really "country with below western standards of living". Which is everything short of Europe Union, South Korea, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. Oh and Canada and US of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:19 PM
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Another thing. Let's say you have a super hot 9/10 chick gain a bunch of weight. She is a 5/10 as a fat ass. Basically average. You try to tell her that her weight is a major problem and she hits you back with something stupid like "I don't want to be evaluated for my looks anyway". Yes but you are being evaluated for that. That's how humans operate. As a man you're evaluated on more than just looks. Money and status is important as well. That is what your arbitraging by going overseas. You may …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:12 AM
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Yes but the quality you can get is significantly higher. And you can build a relationship/house with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:50 AM
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I moved to Ukraine for 2 years. Came back to US with a wife and a baby. Strongly suggest knowing the language and at least a little bit about the culture. But really there is no better solution for average looking men in western countries. Dealing with western women is a nightmare relatively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:01 AM
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Leg lengthening surgery will leave you as a borderline cripple. You won't be able to run on those things. The drawbacks far outweigh any benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:57 AM
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Western men move to a poorer area. Nothing else will skyrocket your RMV like being a westerner in a non western nation. Smv too but not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:56 AM
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So if a guy has a great career, a decent social circle and a good sense of humor. But he also suffers from being lonely. Because being lonely will make just about any human miserable. He is now a loser? That's a really strange take. This idea that people who have lives don't have time to be miserable due to loneliness is deeply flawed. They are just better at masking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah and I mean if you have attractive women knocking down your door. More power to ya. I'd do the same thing. Often though what you see is people who are struggling who make statements like that. Think of it this way. Say there's some overweight woman going "I don't want to be judged for my face and body anyway". Sure but you're still getting evaluated for those things. Long as you understand you're making things harder on yourself in the process. No problemo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:37 AM
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Yes but in order to find a woman you have to show your best side. Being a cheapskate is not it. It's like if a woman wants a man to be into her she can wear a nice dress or put on make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:38 AM
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Why not? You as a man get evaluated for your ability and willingness to take care of a woman. Being a cheapskate is only shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:26 AM
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I think as a man you're just shooting yourself in the foot for no reason. You're getting evaluated based on your ability and willingness to provide whether you like it or not. Same way women get evaluated based on tits and ass whether they agree with it or not. If women purposely made their tits and ass look like shit. Then justified it by saying "I don't want to be evaluated for that". That might work if you have plenty of options. But a terrible idea if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:05 PM
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Women are not nearly as horny as men. Not even close lol. People who say that don't know wtf they are talking about. When a woman gets horny it may be similar to a men in terms of ferocity. But how often and how much stimulation it takes we are world's apart in that regard. I think the whole "you have to be the most attractive option" rationale is flawed. You have to be a good option. Which doesn't mean you're the only good option or even the best option. I think people who are bad options often…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:40 PM
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I'm not saying it's not important. It is. It's just not as ubiquitous as you think. The idea that is if she ever had a one night stand for a lusty Chad means if she doesn't treat you that way you can't have a successful relationship is too constrictive. Yes maybe she did sleep with a lusty Chad on the first night and had no intention of doing that with you. That has very little bearing on what a relationship will look like 1 month in. This is the part men often don't get. If I don't look at you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:27 PM
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Not necessarily. I spent $1000s on hookers at the drop of a dime. But I am sometimes stingy with my wife. Does that mean I liked the hookers more? Hell fuck no. It's just a different investment strategy. I had no intention of shelling $1000s on the same hooker in perpetuity. It kind of works the same way with a guy. If she just sees you as a sex toy. That doesn't mean she likes you more. That's the counter intuitive thing for us men. Sex toy and long term partner are often synonymous. But for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:19 PM
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You're way overthinking it. Men through their nature have very little reason to make women wait. While women do. Mainly because we don't get pregnant. It's difficult for us to empathize with that. So we assume if a woman makes us wait she is not into us. Sometimes that is actually true. Sometimes it's not. Depends on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:52 PM
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Picky + options = good, to be expected Picky + no options = no good, most common cause for dry sick syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:34 AM
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Sounds like you're either full of shit or got a lot of options. Sure if you have a ton of attractive options you can select based on irrelevant bullshit like a messy room. I just don't see a guy not wanting to fuck some hot chick cause her room is messy. He'd have to be gay lol. Or super low libido or something. Just not how us men function in my opinion. Only reason I would select against a very attractive chick is if I had another one I liked more lined up. I might use one of these retarded re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:26 AM
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That's not how relationship works. There are 2 types of attraction. Physical and emotional. Physical is easy to comprehend. Emotional is more akin to what you feel for your family or friends. But you also share that with your lover. Probably even more so than with your family and friends (in a lot of cases anyway). So if you're dating someone and the relationship is stable. Yeah you might find some 20 year old more physically attractive. But the Emotional attachment you feel towards your older p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:01 AM
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That's because we know not to do that lol. For various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:58 PM
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Yes but the argument is that. Animal Fast. Man not. Man sweats better. Man much better at running long distances. Man wear out prey. I imagine much like lions today we went after weaker pray. Such as a diseased or an injured animal. Which made the whole wear them out process simpler. But what does it actually say to disprove that theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:48 PM
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Thats too many words. Care to summarize it in a couple of sentences. I hate articles that include 800 lines of fluff before they get to the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:50 PM
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No because food is abundant as fuck. If she spent a lot of time starving maybe. But girls on tinder won't be impressed by that. Honestly I wouldn't even fuck with tinder unless you're in a different country. Or I guess if you're attractive. It would have to be some expensive ass shit. If you owned a $5,000,000 server farm. That might work. But yeah squash and shit any Joe Bob can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:20 AM
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Men have dual mating strategies 1) insert penis, ejaculate, haul ass 2) stick around and take care of the woman and the baby All of them are hoping to be #2. And quite often a man attempts #1 but gets ensnared into #2. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't. Your hypothetical is a gamble of sorts. She figures she can get him to fall in love with her. Because she is oh so special.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:51 AM
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You do realize that attraction to resource gathering and nurturing is a biologic drive for women. As in they are all "gold diggers " to some degree. Just like all men are "nice tits or nice ass diggers". It comes with the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:43 AM
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I mean I guess. I remember the strip I used to frequent always had girls in high heels. So maybe it does have general appeal. Just not to me. I got pretty close with one of them. I though she looked way better with curly hair. She said that having curly hair killed her business. So she never wears it that way. Another example of something I prefer that is not mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:44 PM
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Women look their best in heels? Where did you get that strange idea? Tall isn't really a good look on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:25 PM
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When I think of chemistry. I just mean general desire. Guys can be "wow she's hot" one second and like 2 minutes later we completely forgot she exists. But within that moment we are totally down for whatever. You probably mean a social bond not the desire to get intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:32 PM
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Chances are they just see you as a #1 as well. Men often hit on 100s of girls. You should definitely reject them quickly so you don't waste each other's time. Yes rejections are painful. But it's a part of life. Getting up to go to work every morning is painful too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:21 PM
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Pretty much yeah. If she's a drunk kitten stomper you have to ask yourself are you better off alone or not. Because that is often the alternative. Another thing. Men have two distinct mating strategies. You know how RP says women have dual mating strategies. I don't know if it's true for women but it's 100% true for men. 1) stick your dick in. Ejaculate. And haul ass. Let her deal with the baby if there is one. 2) invest in her and the child. Which we call a relationship. The drunk kitten stompe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:14 PM
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Uhhh I answered that exact question like 2 sentences later in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:05 PM
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Think about it. Here's my prerequisites for a significant other 1) passes attraction threshold (already bare minimum can't go any lower) 2) likes me back If even those 2 are incompatible with your environment. In other words everyone who likes you, is not attractive. And everyone you find attractive doesn't like you back. What will happen when you add more layers? We're talking about sexuality and relationships. Not whether I'd hire someone if I was running a business. How we choose friends is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:04 PM
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Well yes in a conversation about sexuality. Where guys regularly visit strip clubs to pay a lot of usually nasty women to grind on them. And many others pay usually nasty prostitutes to have sex with them. Yes in that world the one we live in. Men pretty much only need physical appearance to get turned on. This isn't a red pill thing. This is a male biology thing. That's just how our brains operate. How our hormones regulate our arousal states. Regarding values and goals. I used to say this all …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:18 PM
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Find a woman attractive is all we need to feel the chemistry. Her being attracted to us or at least giving us attention obviously helps. We don't fall in love with every attractive woman we see walking by. I think men realize that looks matter to women. But don't realize that looks affect men and women differently. In both cases it can be enough to turn you on and chase after someone. But women can be turned on and chase after someone for other reasons. Where's men usually are unipolar in that r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:58 AM
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https://www.cosmed.com/en/products/body-composition/bod-pod It's called a bod pod. Saying a mirror is more accurate then a bod pod. Is like saying a mirror is more accurate then a scale at telling weight. That's actually precisely what I was trying to point out. The look is what you're after. Not a %. And the look may come at different % levels for different people. Based on their fat deposit. You might look shredded at 10% while someone else will look anorexic. Anorexic is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:22 AM
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I had it measured in a special sports lab. One that gives you a very accurate readings. I was actually at 12.1% when I had that reading done. I lost a little bit more weight after that. Probably more than 10% but less than 11%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:46 AM
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Below 11% may be way too much for some people. I got to 10% once. And I looked like I was anorexic. I look a lot more attractive at around 15%. Just the way my body is built. Some parts of my body looked better at 10%. Arms looked a lot more jacked. Abs showed up like crazy. But the face looked gaunt. Like a meth addict. Look at "Eminem gaunt" on Google. I looked like that fucker. Actually even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:38 AM
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Because gender roles are not entirely cultural. They are rooted somewhat in biology. Men are stronger, faster and have better endurance. They are built for canvassing the jungle and warding off predators. Women are soft and caring. Built for taking care of children and the household. Of course both are capable of both. Much like male and female lions both can hunt. Human females also can hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:07 PM
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United States only imports 15% of our food supply. We also export 20% of our agricultural product. We do that mostly for variety. If we were under pressure due to starvation we wouldn't need to import at all. So no third world countries are not growing our food. Yes as long as we don't nuke ourselves or get hit with a meteor before we can stop them or settle other planets. The cap for the human population is significantly larger than 8 billion. 8 billion is a fraction of what we could house just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:26 PM
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They have less children because they have less pressure to do so. If you have 1 kid and you live in the west you're not thinking you better have a second one in case something happens to the first one. It happens somewhat subconsciously. A lot of people are not even aware of it. As far as running out of food I beg to differ majorly. We have tons of arable land were not using. Some guy in 1798 made a famous prediction that there would be mass starvation because we were overpopulated at 800,000,00…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:05 PM
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The planet has an easy way to take care of overpopulation. When population outgrows the habitat animals die in masses. Why would us reproducing be the downfall of the species? Every major developed nation is having slowed rates of reproduction. It's the poor countries that still reproduce like 1800. There's a good reason for that. In developed countries kids grow up to be adults most of the time. Parents don't need to have 3 or 4 kids to ensure at least one makes it to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:19 PM
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I always see sex and procreation as a branch of survival. Because without reproduction your genes die when you die. If you reproduce then 50% of you lives on. So it's accurate to say 100% of what we do is for survival one way or another. Even sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:08 PM
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It's a great movie. But it's vastly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:04 PM
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Society doesn't like natural selection rationale for 2 main reasons: 1) It has been used to justify atrocities. To the point where a lot of people would rather stick their head in the sand than acknowledge it. 2) People want to feel in control of their lives. Genetics playing a role is a Debbie downer there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:11 PM
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Well past 2.5 years I've been in a relationship. Married for more than 2 years. Not the cheating type so 0 and 0. However prior to that in 2019. I went out basically every chance I got. 3-4 times a week. I dunno maybe 2-3 girls a night I hit on. Sometimes more sometimes less. Depending on the occasion. I averaged one, one night stand every 2 months. Despite all that massive effort. Two of the one night stands I wouldn't repeat. One I really liked but she didn't like me back and I later found out…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:39 PM
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I just don't find them attractive. Also depends on what we mean by fat girl. Slightly chubby but with a pretty face. That's not bad at all. But straight up overweight I just don't find any sex appeal at all there. She's like a guy at that point. I don't necessarily think anything bad of them. But don't consider them for sexual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:21 PM
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Your flair says otherwise lol. It also depends on your standards. If I had 0 standards I'd be at 100 too. Always some lonely fat girl who's down for whateva. I just never enjoyed that type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:55 PM
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Right and they probably have more sex than the guys racking up bigger n counts. Both quantity and quality wise. N count not the best metric for measuring dating game success for a male. A dumpster diver can easily rack up an n count of 50. But if you look at what he's fucking you'd rather wack off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:36 PM
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Only about 3-4 of them were somewhat overweight. Never obese eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:28 PM
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If I was a Chad my n count would be over 100. I've went out and came home empty handed 99% of the time. It's just with enough volume a blind squirrel catches a nutt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:27 PM
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Vast majority of men n counts only 5? At what age? I'm 39 and my n count is close to 20 not counting escorts. And I'm very very very far from a Chad. About as average as they get. I also didn't lose virginity till I was 19. Never had sex in high school or middle school. Most of my male friends lost theirs between 8th and 10th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:02 AM
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He might be nervous. Is he a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:21 AM
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The part that you control is how you react to being attracted to someone. Yes I agree people waste a whole ton of time chasing after people they shouldn't be chasing. What I'm alluding to is that if everyone you happen to be attracted to doesn't find you attractive. Then you're not necessarily going to be able to just "tone down the expectations". For instance even after toning down my expectations and being about as socially active as I possibly could be. I still found very few people in Gaines…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:05 AM
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It happened because of gdp increases. I was arguing that gdp increases are in general good for the regular public. Women entered the work force a bit earlier than 1950. There is no argument that they increased the gdp. Would be impossible to quantify it in any meaningful way. Too many interlocked variables that feed off each other. For example for technological progress to happen you need to be productive enough to support those doing the research. So even if it's all men innovating (which it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:10 AM
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I need to find it. There was a study done on the percentage of households with all sorts of household items. Comparing 1950 and 2010 I believe. Things like irons, televisions, microwaves, air conditioners, heating, house phone, etc etc etc. Not even taking the quality of those items in account. Every single item went up sometimes by a lot. Obviously personal computer and cell phone went up a lot. They also looked at personal safety. Even there the numbers were superior in 2010. People felt much …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:43 AM
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So the quality of life hasn't improved in the last 70-80 years? Just think about the quality of electronics for a quick reference. Think of the quality of cars. You compare a car today and a car made in 1950, the safety standards are simply incomparable. Medical equipment has come a long way. We have vaccines and anti biotics that we didn't have before. On and on. People in 2022 have access to way more high quality "stuff" than someone in 1952.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:34 PM
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Honestly not familiar with brazils. But yeah a very corrupt government is notoriously a gigantic hurdle to progress. Also very common all over the world. I lived in Ukraine for 2 years. Corruption is a lot more widespread there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:03 PM
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Increase in gdp is naturally deflationary. Governments pump more $ into the economy to combat deflation. Because much like inflation it is also bad for the economy. The ideal is a controlled 2% inflation. When the gdp goes up products either get cheaper or improve in quality. A good example is the smart phone. Used to be a rich man's toy. Now homeless people on skid row have them. Every product in our economy has wither massively deflated or become better quality wise. Even housing. People used …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:36 PM
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Everything gets cheaper and or higher quality. For example smart phones used to be a rich man's toy. Once it became cheaper to produce, even homeless people on skid row now have them. Multiply that by every product but at various rates. That is how a rising gdp benefits regular people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:29 PM
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No idea how the algorithms work. They likely use some machine learning tasked with keeping people swiping as long as possible. Which likely means serving attractive faces but who knows. Fact is these dating apps only do a good job of conveying a snapshot of the person's appearance. There's really no way to evaluate anything else. And of course in a place that only evaluates appearance the hottest people will have the best results. If perhaps we started using into videos that would work a little …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:43 AM
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Of course. We're bombarded with entertainment options that don't require us to leave the house. Social media, Netflix, video games, YouTube, tik tok etc etc etc. Dating apps are a part of that equation too. Before you had to go to clubs and parties to meet people. Or other social events. Now you can just use a dating app but the filtering system there is very different from real world interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:34 AM
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Having unrealistic standards is a common symptom of living a secluded lifestyle. That is why it's so prevalent in society today. This affects both women and men equally. But it creates slightly different outcomes. Men end up with nothing while women end up getting tricked by attractive men into believing they actually want a relationship and not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:29 AM
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Nope not how it works. The health of the economy is determined by the productivity. If 50% of your population never works. Your gdp suffers. Simple supply and demand. If you increase supply without a change in demand prices fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:37 AM
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Ok so both males and females lives are to a certain degree determined by the quality of the economy. People in the west are extremely spoiled in that regard. They've probably never really seen a truly shitty economy. I don't mean a 2008 style recession. I mean people starving on the streets Venezuela style. Anyway men benefit greatly from women in the work force. Women are very productive. It is very good for our economy. The ability to produce goods and services using female labor has probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:27 AM
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I don't understand lol. What does your comment have to do with the one you were responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:19 PM
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I mean men in general can't relate to that. I agree that people feel that way. I can't relate to gay men either. But I know they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:35 PM
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It doesn't work like that. You can't make yourself attracted to people. It's not a voluntary process. If we could there would be a lot less lonely people on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:34 PM
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Mem have a very hard time relating to that. If some hot chick wanted to use us for sex we'd be down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:26 PM
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Probably some projection going on. Men are evolutionary satisfied with simply being given access to the coochie. Without any feelings involved. So they assume women are the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:25 PM
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Yes I caught that too. People make it out to be 1/1000 in reality it's more like 1/20. Which makes both of my statements true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:19 PM
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I think "should lower their standards" is often said without thinking what it actually means. You don't control who and what you find attractive. How exactly do you actually lower your standards? I suppose if you're always shooting for the moon while ignoring people who you still find attractive but not as much. Then yeah it applies to you. But how do you force yourself in a relationship with someone you don't want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:00 PM
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I think the difference is. Ugly women can have sex with people they actually want to fuck. Meanwhile men are forced to have sex with people who they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:55 PM
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Never argued otherwise. Men don't want unattractive women so what they do and don't do isn't particularly interesting to them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:51 PM
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I've had enough fat women hit on me to know that's not true. I'm just never interested so it does nothing for me. Liking fat women isn't as rare as people make it out to be. I just can never tell if it's a true preference or done more so as a "better than nothing". I always assumed the latter. Only recently did I realize I may have been wrong and that is truly what those guys prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:34 PM
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Your type is women a lot of guys don't want. The market is a lot more favorable for you for that reason. Whatever you do don't change it lol. It's good for both you and the fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:12 PM
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We're you responding to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:39 PM
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They need to eat too you know. Most of them don't have shit for $. They aren't going on an expensive date every single meal. Remember I said this is a college town. A lot of these hotties are getting an education. Do you think all super hot women model or live off sugar daddies?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:01 AM
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Yep. I'm telling I used to work the front cash or drive through window. Yes absolutely women of that caliber came through there. The chick I was describing earlier in this thread that was dating a convinct Spanish deebo looking guy. She was absolutely that caliber. She was a drop dead gorgeous Latina. We had some good looking women working there from time to time. But not quite that caliber.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:56 AM
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Jessica Alba. Young Rihanna. Young Beyonce. Tinashe. Gal Cadot. Young Rosario Dawson. Light skin or mixed black girls or Latinas. They come to Wendy's all the time... to eat. Edit: the celebrities I listed was examples of what I thought was super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:50 AM
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A 10/10 drug addicted hooker... if she's a 10 that means she's not too far gone. Yes I think a decent amount of men would commit to her. Cause 10s are rare as fuck. Might as well give it a shot. You're talking extremes though. 10s are very rare in my opinion. An average attractive woman likely would turn off a lot of men with that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:48 AM
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There exist men who like men. And some who like animals. I'm talking about average trends not every single man alive. Most guys are willing to look past a lot of things if she's attractive. Some women have such sex appeal (both in terms of looks and desirable behavior) that they would look right past drugs, alcohol, multiple baby daddy's etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:44 AM
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What???? You're joking right. Super hot women go into Wendy's all the time where I'm from. Gainesville Florida. It's a college town... maybe that's why I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:42 AM
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In what? A poor woman? Which comment are you replying to? I seriously doubt men are going to say no to attractive women if they don't make enough $. That's not how our dicks or brains work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:04 PM
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Unfair sure. But it just so happens to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:59 PM
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I was just pointing out how many drop dead gorgeous mixed girls there was in the hood. Them being gorgeous is what's important not the skin color. I remember it like yesterday. Possibly the hottest woman I'd ever seen. Used to constantly come visit this Spanish Deebo looking guy on work release. He wasn't a junky. But most definitely a criminal. Not particularly smart either. But built like a God damn tank.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:18 PM
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Oh I'm married lol. Moved the fuck away from US to Ukraine for a couple of years and found a wife. I'm back in US now. There my options were significantly better. Orders of magnitude better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:04 PM
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Sure I agree. Sometimes they are drugees too. But not always. I worked at Wendy's for 6 years. A lot of attractive women there were not druggies or anything like that. I mean they might smoke weed here and there. But nothing like a junky. They would date druggies and criminals. It was perfectly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:01 PM
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My response was that a man who is a criminal or a dead beat. Won't necessarily struggle with women. If they don't struggle with women. How can you call them "low value". Yes of course I will base that on who they are fucking. How else would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:36 PM
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No way. There's plenty of dimes in the hood. Especially the mixed girls. When I say dimes I mean 10/10. That's the peak of beauty. There's even more 6s 7s 8s and 9s. They will date a druggie criminal even if they aren't fond of that lifestyle. I've seen it first hand MANY MANY times. This was my response a couple of seconds ago to a similar post. They don't have to be druggies or criminals themselves. Only be from that part of town.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:32 PM
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No way. There's plenty of dimes in the hood. Especially the mixed girls. When I say dimes I mean 10/10. That's the peak of beauty. There's even more 6s 7s 8s and 9s. They will date a druggie criminal even if they aren't fond of that lifestyle. I've seen it first hand MANY MANY times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:31 PM
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You got options :) Try doing that on a typical average man's cold streak. If you're looking for an LTR. You SHOULD evaluate those things. But a lot of men don't anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:22 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm I think at a certain point looks won't bail you out when you're a female. If you're literally a "crack hoe". As in sleeping with men to pay for your addiction. Most guys will nope out of a relationship with you. Though they'll gladly add to your tally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:21 PM
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I admit I am speaking in hyperbole. Relative to how much women care about status and money, men pretty much only care about looks. Sure it matters to some degree. But we're talking very small fractions relative to how much women value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:14 PM
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Fair enough. It is certainly subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:06 PM
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They are usually from the same economic class. But men really don't give a shit about that. If she's hot who gives a fuck how much she or her parents make.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:05 PM
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If she's attractive.... everything else doesn't matter. Lots of average men with decent jobs have a hard time getting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:05 PM
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Not in my experience The hottest women used to come visit the work release cons at Wendy's when I worked there. Were talking about 10/10. For men looks are everything. If you're getting 10s that signals to you, you're doing everything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:04 PM
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I've seen a lot of criminal, not particularly intelligent, no future, drug addicted men do very well with Women. Oh and "doesn't learn from mistakes" times a million.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:50 PM
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Men don't care about height, money, status, job or anything else besides looks. Some guys date richer women but those guys are almost always parasites. We can only be hypergamus towards looks. Why would we be hypergamus towards money if it has zero sex appeal to us. "Better than you in some way" can be reworded as "find the person attractive in some way". Again with guys it's just looks. Therefore as long as she meets the threshold for that she's good. With women it's more dimensional. The seeki…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:01 PM
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If hypergamy is a natural default state for both sexes. Which I believe to be true. Than you have to ask yourself why it even needs to be said. It should just be common knowledge both sexes shoot above their league when given the opportunity. Now as far as opportunity. Me and you both agree that women have more opportunities to do so. But then you have to ask yourself. If women can consistently shoot above. Maybe we're just not evaluating them properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:04 PM
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If your only prerequisite is that they are willing to wait. Perhaps. But if you have a bunch of other prerequisites and on top of that you want them to wait. You might get lucky. But chances are you'll just be pricing yourself out of the market. Depends on demographics of course. This approach might work for the religious crowd or people living in less developed socities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:18 PM
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Yes your advice is best suited for people who wish to remain single. Not for people actively searching a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:27 PM
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Flaky behavior. Admitting that he treated women like shit in the past. Honestly in most cases your gut feeling is pretty good. If you think he's not that into you. Chances are you are picking up on subconscious clues that he really isn't. Sometimes the direct approach is the best. Straight up ask them. Though there are some liars and manipulators who will just tell you what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:25 PM
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It would also weed out most men period. Your pool of potential suitors would be shrunk to a devastating effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:21 PM
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I guess the bottom line is. I always see solitude as the core of the problem. Not dopamine or over stimulation. I suppose you could make the argument the dopamine over stimulation is the reason we are so content with solitary lives. A person living a life of solitude without social media over stimulation will have a worse outlook than a person who has a rich social life but also endulges in social media addiction. At least in my opinion. Would be an insanely difficult thing to study.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:19 PM
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Males have 2 strategies 1) bang bang bang. Let the chips fall where they may. 2) get into a relationship and invest both into the woman and the child(ren). Every Chad I've known eventually settled down and had a family. When men are focused on #2 they focus on quality too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:29 PM
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I had a slightly different experience. My standards were absurdly high when I was a home hermit. Probably to some degree due to this. HOWEVER as soon as I started constantly socializing. I noticed myself getting attracted to a lot of "average" looking women. And it's not like my consumption of porn or seeing beautiful faces online really changed any. The only thing that changed was my exposure to real humans. So in essence the effect they are describing is a result of solitude and not overstimul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:33 AM
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I mean are you really going to argue that an average prisoner is not more aggresive than an average male? Who cares if its genetic or environmental. Its almost always a combination of both when talking about humans. Yes Ive paid for hookers. Yes it was out of desperation. Ive also had 6 or 7 one night stands that I brought home on the first night. A couple of them were even attractive lol. Overall Im arguing that what people value as far as intrinsic attraction can be very different. And on aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:50 PM
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If I wanted to study how aggresive human males are and used a max prison as my sampling. I think we can both agree that my results would be way off compared to if I just took random men off the street. Thats what I was pointing out with your sample of swinger women. Just cause its a large sample doesnt mean its perfectly representative. Any more than a million convicts would be. I agree we shouldnt use outliers. I do believe people overuse them to generalize. Me and you actually agree 100% there…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:12 PM
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I know guys who are genuinely attracted to fat women. Like seriously. I always thought they just wanted something easy and were willing to date someone ugly. But no they actually like them. Just with genetic preference. As in the preferences our genes have. There can be a ton of variety. Were not even talking about environmental. So why would there be no different weight to different things? Im not saying they dont care about looks at all. Im saying they arent as important. Same way how much $ a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:06 AM
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I think 2 things are happening here. 1) People in general are different. My father told me this early on when I started down this black red blue purple pull rabbit hole. In essence he said people can be turned on by different things. And you only notice lookist people like yourself because its difficult for you to relate or empathise with any other attraction type. For instance some men have told me that they are genuinely attracted to fat women and it just seems absurd to me. When I say women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:24 AM
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Wouldnt swinging and polyamory only give you a great look at what those particular women value. Which is bound to be women with higher sex drives and thus likely more comparable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:17 AM
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I think you put way too much value on shaming. Its not nearly as powerful ad you think it is. If women had the same visual urges as men. Male strip clubs and male prostitutes would be far more prevalent. They are practically non existent relative to female strip clubs and escorts. Women in general grossly underestimare the visual urges males experience. We are just wired differently in that regard. For good reason too. Men can have nearly consequence free sex to pass off their genes. Women cant.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:05 AM
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I think thats a fallacy. Women are not wired like men. If I was fucking Oprah.... it would be me just fucking her pile of $. Id need viagra. But that is just how men are wired. Women have different parameters. I clued into it when my wife had a child. How insanely fragile both of them were. A woman who doesnt have a man to take care of her in the wild in that situation will have a hard time surviving. Hence why women actually can find genuine attraction in higher status males. Were not talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:32 AM
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Considering how easy it is for middle aged doctors to have much younger and prettier girlfriends. Id say it works often enough. And im not talking about sugar babies who are just glorified hookers. I mean actual real girlfriends. I think what it really is.... is that it helps make normies attractive enough. So much of these discussions focus through the lens of chad or incel. What happens to normies is a lot more dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:28 AM
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One mistake a lot of socialist type make. And im not accusing you of being a socialist. Just sharing an observation. They complete missunderstand incentives. Humans are very incentive driven. On one hand humans can achieve great feats. On the other hand humans are very often lazy as fuck. A lot of men derive incentive from their sex drive. As in if they are not working towards something that helps them find a mate. They aint working at all. They have no motivation. So in essence what youre sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:05 PM
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As others have pointed out we dont have a prinal urge to drive a ferrari. But we do have a primal urge for intimacy, usually from members of the opposite sex. Trying to compare the two is not entirely appropriate. All the men around you can be single and it wouldnt really change much. Its not a societally learned drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:58 PM
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Ok so pedophilia is attraction to children under the age of around 12 (before puberty). There is another term for those in the teenage 12-18 range. Forget what that is dont feel like looking it up. I specifically mentioned ages 18-25. So neither term apply to what I said. I even said I agree 100% with laws that protect minors. So if anything Im defending prosecuting people who violate those laws. Learn how to read please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:13 AM
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Not a red piller. Because attraction is an impulse we dont control. We can only control whether we react to it. I never said people shouldnt have self control. You guys assume that people can turn on and turn off sexual interest on command. Youd have to have a super low libido to be able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:09 AM
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Evolution doesnt care what you find icky. Every organism prioritizes reproduction. Theres a very good evolutionary reason for men to prefer women in the 18-25 range. It boils down to humans didnt always pretend the world is how they want it to be but how it actually is. And no attraction is not a choice. You can control whether you react to it or not. But not whether it happens in the first place. I agree 100% with laws that protect minors. But it doesnt magically change how we are wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:23 AM
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That doesnt disprove his claim. Some 40 year old guy dating another 40 year old doesnt mean the guy wouldnt prefer a 18 year old if he could actually pull it off. Nor does what he saying imply that men are not capable of being attracted to older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:04 AM
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Status, wealth, talent etc. Those are all markers of a good provider. Someone who can give the woman and any children they sire a comfortable life. Men dont get horny for those things. Women do. Thats the part that took me a very long time to comprehend. I used to also think the whole "this is not what true lust looks like". You are saying that as a man. You would never feel the same way in your balls for Oprah as you do for Jessica Alba. It just doesnt work that way for us. Think about the esco…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:23 AM
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I think this is bad science caused by men projecting their own sexuality on to women. Men just need to be slightly attracted to a woman to enjoy sex. Sometimes very slightly. Women are different. They can enjoy sex with a man who is just hot. But typically you have to really stand out for that. But its not the only thing that can turn women on. Wealth can too. Which is completely different from how men operate. No matter how rich Oprah is it will never make me hard. Women are different because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:57 AM
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Thats why I said if she wants to. There are different types of women. Hes trying to attract the ones that want a guy that provides. Im saying that the reason hes not getting anywhere is that he has to stand out more. Women who also make $ can choose based on whatever they want. Sometimes its lots of $, sometimes its good looks... can be any number of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:57 PM
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It matters. Youre just understimating how much you need. If youre a hot chick in a big tech city. You can easily find a guy making $1mil+ a year. So if youre gonna go that route. You really have to stand out. Take that same salary to Russia, Eastern Europe or the phillipines. And you will instantly see just how much it "doesnt mean shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:44 PM
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Yeah if they are attractive they like them. Its like this. If i met some chick that hit all the spots. Young, attractive, fun to be with, liked me. I wouldnt be like "but she was wearing red shoes so Im noping out". Nobody cares that much about shoes. Same thing here. Most men just dont care. As long as shes attractive everything about her is secondary. Some ugly betty isnt going to get a bunch of men chasing her cause she got a big promotion. Shes still ugly betty and her options are pretty muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:08 PM
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So a man finds an attractive woman who also makes $ and likes him. And runs away? Never in a million years. What really happens is they are never attracted to her in the first place and the career is used as a post hoc rationalization by either the woman or the man. Men genuinely dont care one way or another. Its nice if you have it. But it wont make you more appealing or make a man run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:44 PM
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Everyone on the planet wants to date the top 20%. Or even top 10% or 5%. That doesnt mean if you are with someone who is not in top 20% they can not satisfy you. As long as you find them attractive where they are relative to other people doesnt matter all that much. Which makes the whole 20% thing rather pointless. Your top 20% may be quite different from someone elses. And on top of that they might find the top 50% satisfying so you dont even have to be all that. "Settling" assumes that there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:13 PM
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Well hes definitely a cuck. But hes also an alpha male among alpha males. That guy even at 50+ can bang hot college girls endlessly. Everything most guys only dream of doing is readily available to him at any point. Hes a decent looking guy (mainly due to age. Was very attractive when young). Immensely talented and extremely wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:11 PM
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Another American who doesn't even know what the sides were in World War two. This war started in 2014. You don't even know that did you? I was born in Russia. I am half Russian and Ukrainian. Yes I am very familiar with the war in donbass. if you ignore the Nazis killing people for eight years. Or approve of the killing as you do I guess? That is how the propaganda machine frames it. What really happened in Donbass is that the Russian FSB went in and instigated an armed rebellion. To which Ukrai…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 07:36 PM
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You remember when the German Nazi's attacked Stalingrad. Or any other soviet city. Did the defenders just pack up and leave? Or did they fight them to the bitter end. Guess what. The Russian's are the Nazi's here. They are the one's forcing Ukraine to defend every inch of their land against an aggressor. Yes I'm glad you point out that Mariupol is an ethnically Russian city. So is Kharkiv. Both of those cities had majority Russian speakers. And guess what. They were living just fine until the Ru…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 07:24 PM
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3000 civilians dead in Mariupol alone. That is more than 100 a day. It's called urban warfare. You can't wage it without killing civilians. The second the Russian army decided to take the cities. They condemned 1000s of civilians to death. The reason is very simple. Urban buildings and narrow roads are perfect defensive positions. The Ukrainian army would have to be morons not to use it for defenses. This isn't anything new. We just haven't seen it in Europe since World War 2 at this scale. Puti…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 06:38 PM
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Im also in Kyiv. Next to Dream Town on obolon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:22 PM
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Eastern Europe isn't all that different in that if you want to date a woman more attractive than you, you better have something that makes you more valuable. The difference is just being American is already enough. If you can command an American middle class income (which really isn't that hard) then you're golden. Meanwhile an average looking American with a middle class income is hardly a catch in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:12 PM
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I moved to Ukraine. Though I had a cheat code I was Ukrainian/Russian myself. I just lived in America 25 years. I've met quite a few other Americans who did the same thing. Some of them didn't have the same language and culture advantage that I had. Mostly businessmen and people involved with Information Technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:09 PM
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Hehehehe youd have to blur their faces. Otherwise they would be ridiculed for life for such dumpster divery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:55 PM
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Yeah i mean what are these guys getting their eyes surgically removed and showing up with an 8ball of viagra. How can anyone actually get turned on by that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:54 PM
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I dunno. They would have to do a lot of very questionable (in terms of ethics) studies to know if this is really what's happening. So nobody really knows and probably never will. I feel like in reality average women and average men tend to do just fine if they stay in their lane. Both attempt to shoot up. And the one's that never learn to stop doing that suffer the consequences. This happens to both sexes. Whether it happens to women more often then men is hard to tell in todays society. I suspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:15 PM
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This does happen to some extent. But it is horribly exaggerated. Most women are not idiots. The amount of women who forever get stuck in this loop is actually quite small. Something like 5-10%. We just never notice the 90-95% because they are not out at night clubs at 35 years old. They are busy living family lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:45 PM
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I think it evens out a lot when you start talking about relationships. Think about it relationships are ultimately about having children. A man in order to have a child just needs a woman to open her legs. A woman needs a man to stick around and take care of her and the offspring. So while sure a 9/10 guy will happily impregnate several 7/10s. Chances are he isn't going to stick around. He's going to be doing the same exact thing as women in that position. Trying to build a home with the hottest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:38 PM
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I disagree. I think its pretty obvious nature intended the father to stick around and help with the baby. Otherwise what is the point of the deep emotional attachment we develop with our mates (we call it love). Courtship was obviously quite different. But I think long term relationships have been a thing for a very long time.
/r/BlackPillScience29/06/21 11:30 AM
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Did they only use speed dating as their sample? That seems like a rather questionable method to determine overall attractiveness. Of course initially it will have little impact. We can measure how physically attractive someone is in a matter of seconds. Intelligence takes a lot longet to measure. Intelligence matters though. Even to guys. Most guys will stick their dick in some hot chick with an iq of 75. But they sure as hell wont build a house with her. That would be a nightmare. For women its…
/r/BlackPillScience28/06/21 11:16 PM
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I live in Ukraine. My wife could work if she wanted to. But she would only make like $400 a month. I make 10x that. It makes a lot more sense for her to just care for our baby. She is 4 months old. I also DID NOT want her working during pregnancy. Covid 19 and all that other jazz. Now if the roles were reversed. She was the American who could make $. And I didn't really have any perspective. Would I have a problem being the one who cares for the baby? Not really. Couple of points though #1 My wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:17 PM
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I think I understand where the disconnect is. Me personally here's how I would give a 1-10 rating to "importance in life". 5/10 Career It's important. But you can have a fairly good life with a relatively decent career. As long as you're not working in some shithole and you're making enough money good enough really is good enough. You don't need to be Lebron James to be happy. 10/10 family The most important thing. Career is completely worthless if you have no family to come home to. This is tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:56 AM
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First of all just cause you got a law degree at 25 doesnt mean you suddenly have a bustling career. In fact I would say its pretty standard in a lot of careers for it to take about 10+ years. Obviously there is a ton of variables that determine that. Also i dont think you understand my goal. Im not saying women shouldnt have jobs or pursue degrees. If that is what they want to do. Go with god whaever makes you happy. I dont want women pressured or even advised to put career ahead of having a fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:02 PM
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Both men and women decline in fertility after their peak year. The decline speeds up as you get older. Difference is the peak year for a male is almost always older (not by much 1-2 years) than for a female. The rate at which the decline accelerates also happens faster for women. Dont believe me? Google the following statements "What percent of men can have children at 45" "What percent of women can have children at 45" I never saw an actual answer to either question. But it is obvious that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:27 AM
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It would be ideal for everyone to have children young. Its just that a mans smv is not as intricately tied to his fertility as a womans. Therefore while a man can in a lot of cases increase his smv with age. A woman almost never can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:15 AM
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Me saying that men dont care about your career and you saying that you did it for other reasons are unrelated statements. Both can be true. Considering how many women say "Im a great catch, I am funny and I have a good job" its obvious a lot of women are oblivious to what men actually want. I was also speaking of specific cases where women wasted their fertile years chasing some career path. Not every woman wants to have a family and kids. That is great. But a lot of women do. Those that at 35 c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:10 AM
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Education is also a big one. No matter how good your genes are. If nobody ever teaches you how to apply it. Youre not going to do that well with abstract reasoning. If Lebron James never played basketball most high school players could beat him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:12 PM
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Biologically it makes a lot more sense for a man to wait than a woman. A woman at 20 years old is at her absolute peak in terms of the caliber of man she can snatch. She is also at her most fertile. Men on the other hand stay fertile much longer. They also dont necessarily peak at 20. Some men do. But a lot of men need to gather resources to maximize their ability to get a quality partner. Something women dont need to do at all. Men could give a shit how much $ you make. Every woman who wastes h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:08 PM
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Its not that youd be demotivated. Lazyness is a motivation too. Humans and other animals need to conserve energy because food is scarce. We didnt evolve with a super market down the street that has more food than we can hunt in a lifetime. What youre seeing is just people making logical choices. If you have a kid their livelyhood is more important than yours. Thus you are far less inclined to conserve your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:59 AM
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You're forgetting about the existence of children. The whole point of sex and dating is to ultimately have children. At least from an evolutionary stand point. Leaving a man who you have a child with who is providing for you. Is extremely dangerous. Even today it's a risky move. But back in the days when we lived in the forests and caves it was way more so. Just because some dude has a bigger dick and larger muscles. That doesn't mean he is going to give a rats ass about you once he's done nutti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:09 PM
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I actually spent like a year looking at couples. Trying to make deductions in my head. I still find myself looking at couples to this day. But not with as much feverishness. Anyway I found the looksmatch idea to be extremely consistent with reality. There are other black pill ideas which I found to be complete bullshit though. I saw plenty of sub 5 foot 9 men with attractive women for example. Height feels very overvalued. I'd say about 80% of couples are looksmatched. What I don't agree with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:28 PM
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I didnt say that. But I promise you a man who suddenly has a bunch of options will get a lot more pickier. Happened to me when I first came to Ukraine. I would literally say "Id be all over that back in US, but over here meh" as I swiped left.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:07 AM
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You're right. But it happens to everyone not just women. If men could get on tinder and have a bunch of matches that actually want to fuck them. Their standards would go through the roof the same way. It's not female nature. It's human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:36 PM
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Thats a very common misconception. I agree that each human had a threshold of attractiveness. Past which they wont even evaluate a person. But for your statement to be true two things would have to be static A) all women have a threshold that is in the same exact percentile. Like the whole 80/20 rule. Every single woman only finds 20% of men physically attractive. There is zero evidence of this. I think its far more likely it is tied to their own attractiveness. Hot chicks might only like the to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 09:30 AM
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I think the reason this is so hard for men to understand is because we don't value it. For us looks is pretty much the only thing that matters. How confident a woman is, is pretty much irrelevant. There is biological reasons for this. Men are built to be self sufficient. We like having a society to help us survive but we don't need them. We can survive on our own. Women on the other hand are tasked with producing children. Women are very vulnerable when they are pregnant and when the baby is you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:07 PM
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The way I read it is that you're saying that attraction is a complicated process with lots of nuances. I tend to agree with that. But making yourself more attractive isn't really all that complicated. What I was saying is that in my opinion it's not the primary reason people struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 03:40 PM
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You have to reword it. People don't struggle with dating because attraction is complicated. People have a hard time deciphering attraction because it is complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 03:26 PM
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What was the solution? And you wrote sex years ago instead of six. Freudean slip? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 11:12 PM
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If you define the wall that way then yeah it doesnt exist. Because even a 80 year old woman can get a 80 year old man to hit on her. But thats not what its about. The fact that a 50 year old woman has 10 times less suitors than a 20 year old. Despite being attractive. That is important in its own right. My example was of an attractive female. She may still have quality suitors at 50. But an average looking girl. Her window for when high quality men are hitting on her will likely be much smaller.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:37 AM
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I agree humans life expectancy was probably always in the 80s in ideal circumstances. We just haven't had ideal circumstances pretty much ever. Only in the last 60 years or so are we starting to approach it in many parts of the world. The important part is that our genetic code was formed during a time when life expectancy was not very long. It was mostly because of starvation, diseases, other humans and predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 09:36 PM
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https://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/age-specific-mortality-lifespan-bad-science-2009.html The age structure of ancient populations is a matter of great interest within anthropology and archaeology. Some think we can draw many conclusions from skeletal samples; others are more cautious in their application of models to the past. But there’s no doubt that Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks were dropping dead at age 30, 40, 50 and 60 – at much higher age-specific mortality rates than today…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 03:56 PM
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Not going to argue. 25 probably is the ideal age both in terms of mental and physical maturity. HOWEVER our bodies are not really built that way. If we evolved in todays world perhaps they would be. But we evolved in a much more dangerous world where the life expectancy was too short for people to start making children at 25. If the life expectancy is 35 that means the average kid would be without parents by the age of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 01:31 PM
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Ok look. Let's pretend for a second that every living creature alive wants to reproduce. That's it. No deeper purpose to it. Just spread your seed and die. Can you reproduce if you die before reproducing? Of course not. So you have to eat. There's your survival instinct that is not tied to sex drive but is still relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:59 AM
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Not really. The OP said everything we do is to get laid. I changed it to everything we do is to survive. Then I posited that survival and reproduction are at the very least "very similar concepts" if not outright the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:58 AM
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You're separating survival and reproduction. That's fine a lot of people do that. But I don't. In order for your DNA to survive after you die you have to reproduce. So the same survival instincts apply to reproduction in my opinion. There's a biological reason why so many parents say "I would give my life for my child". That's just natures way of ensuring that your genetic code remains alive after you get old and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:55 AM
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The reason older women are less attractive physically is because they are not as fertile. Youth is a sign of fertility. When a woman starts to get wrinkles, saggy tits etc. That is a sign that her fertility is on the decline or gone completely. So yes it is about looks. We can't tell exactly who is fertile by looking at them. But there are many clues that nature has taught us to look for. A young healthy woman is far more likely to be fertile then an old sickly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:53 AM
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How so? Elaborate please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:36 AM
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No it doesnt. In pure evolutionary terms getting pregnant at 10 years old is very bad for the female. So the vast majority of males are not interested in women that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:50 AM
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I disagree. If some really hot woman goes to the gym daily. Is in great shape at 50. She will definitely still have suitors. But her 20 year old self would have 10 times more suitors. The wall affects everyone differently because everyone has different starting points. But after a certain age its downhill for everyone regardless of life choices. Poor life choices just speed the process up tremendously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:17 AM
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Yes cause attraction is not a conscious choice. Just cause a man has decided he doesnt want kids his brain still finds markers of fertility attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:14 AM
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I can agree that sex has other functions. Like social validation, stress relief, pair bonding etc. But I wouldn't go as far as to remove reproductive function from sex. Especially not in our basal instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:24 PM
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That's because we value things that are no longer beneficial but were for 1000s (or millions) of years. Processed sugars, super calorie rich foods etc. Those are all completely new for our bodies. Same with the abundance. We didn't evolve with a Publix 15 minutes away. We evolved in an environment where people constantly starved to death. People get fat because we eat as if we're going to spend the next month starving. That is a result of our evolutionary history where it benefited us to munch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:17 PM
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500,000 years ago a monkey stumbles across 2 fields of berries. It is familiar with both kind. One has an "ok taste". The other one is delicious. It is slightly hungry but not starving. Which one will it choose? Probably the delicious one. The important question is what makes the delicious berry produce more pleasure than the other one. There can be many different answers for this. Maybe it has more sugar and thus more calories. Maybe it has an abundance of some vitamin humans need. I'm not a nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:06 PM
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First of all a lot of men want to have children. So offering them a hedonistic life with no ability to reproduce would remove the "every desire fulfilled" element of it. But that's not really important. We're talking about how our brains and bodies are built not what decision any individual makes. The reason we enjoy the hedonistic stuff is because we derive pleasure from it. Getting drunk, doing drugs, having sex with strangers etc. We enjoy all those things because of pleasure. Pleasure exists…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:44 PM
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So what in your opinion is the purpose of the sex drive? If it's not to have children.....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:41 PM
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So what? I'm sure that during the 1.5 billion years of life's evolution on this planet there have been creatures that don't die. But they all either died out or have insignificant populations. The ability to combine DNA between two living creatures and dying afterwards was superior. At least in evolutionary terms. Animals that don't die would need some extremely durable bodies. They would also be highly susceptible to changing environments. Animals that constantly adjust their DNA are better sui…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:29 PM
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You realize that your children have 50% of your DNA. So you're kind of "half cloning" yourself. DNA isn't designed to have YOU SPECIFICALLY survive. It needs the genetic code to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:15 PM
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I thought cancer was cells who's DNA was damaged. The part that usually has the cell die stops working.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:11 PM
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There's no argument that the human brain is highly malleable. Maybe even more malleable than we realize. But you never stop being your DNA. I mean yeah you eat food and that food gets converted into structures inside your body. But that structure is always built with your DNA. Any adjustment your brain makes as a result of the environment is done using brain cells that all have been made with your DNA code. I think one argument that can be made against what I am saying is all the bacteria that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:02 PM
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Yes. As I explained you can't survive after death without reproducing. Your DNA can't anyway. Humans are not built to live millions of years. Our DNA has to reproduce to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:56 PM
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that just takes me back to this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:49 PM
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That's a debatable topic. From the moment you are born everything that is you is just your DNA responding to what the environment throws at it. I can see the other side of that argument. That the software that exists within the hardware that is your brain is really you and that the DNA simply builds the chassis. But how much of that software is built through your DNA?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:45 PM
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Your DNA survives through your children. Well half of it anyway. It's the only way for you to survive death. That's what I meant by survival and reproduction being the same thing. We don't have a biologic imperative to survive 1,000,000 years because reproduction takes care of our survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:39 PM
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You're not understanding. Humans derive pleasure from things that help us survive. Most people like sugar because it has a lot of carbs. Such density of carbs is beneficial for survival. So jacking off in a test tube and handing it over to the sperm bank will give you pleasure. Just like jerking off in any setting will. But your body is still going to want to survive after that. There are some species that immediately die after successful reproduction. But humans are not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:38 PM
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We're talking about pre-programmed responses by humans. So what I personally think about my DNA after I am dead is completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:30 PM
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Survival and reproducing is pretty much the same thing if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:02 PM
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Homosexuals have the same instinct to reproduce. Their attraction switches are just looking for the wrong pairing. A gay mans body literally thinks that having sex with another man will produce a child and thus gives him pleasure for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:00 PM
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Yes but they are all centered around survival. Everything that gives you pleasure is somehow tied to survival. Even drugs. Drugs just fool your brain into thinking all that dopamine came from some beneficial activity. Reproduction is just an extension of survival. You can't continue living after you die. But your DNA can continue existing through your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:58 PM
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I actually think its simpler then that. All living creatures preoccupy themselves with ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY. Surviving. Since we all die it's impossible to survive your generation. The only way to continue existing is to produce an offspring. Then take care of it. People like to separate surviving and reproducing into different categories. For me it's the same exact thing. Your DNA wants to survive. Only way to do that is to reproduce. (PS yes I get that the DNA itself technically doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:50 PM
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Humans crave progression. When building a house from twigs and sticks the process of it coming together is pleasurable for us. There's a good biological reason for it. It helps us survive to build a house. So therefore we get a dose of dopamine from accomplishing such tasks. Video games sort of hack that natural evolutionary mechanism. We feel as if we're accomplishing a lot and thus are showered with dopamine. Even if in reality we're accomplishing very little. I'm not some anti video game crus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:47 PM
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Outliers and exceptions to the rule don't disprove a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:44 PM
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The $233,000 seems way overblown. Are they including things like rent and electricity which you would have to pay anyway? Even without children. Truth of the matter is. There is the poor who despite having little money manage to raise children just fine. The middle class who can afford to raise their kids with no problem. And obviously the wealthy who can afford anything. As far as the college education goes. That seems completely irrelevant to me. If your kid half ass tries in high school they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 05:07 PM
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Did you ever go to college parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:48 PM
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Because genetics evolves much slower than technology. A woman wants a tall strong guy because that is what was optimal for the majority of our existence. A Walmart with plenty of food nearby is entirely foreign to our genes. Which is why we still eat like it's our last meal despite the fact that we logically know that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:30 PM
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The appendix removal no. In fact that one may have had nothing to do with the weight loss. I had other gastro problems that almost certainly had to do with huge calorie deficits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 12:52 AM
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I did it way too fast. I recommend losing the weight. But not as fast as I did it. I think it took me about 4 months. Maybe less because I lost about 5 pounds right away due to water weight. The health problems I had later on were not worth it though. Would have been better if I paced myself. 1500 calorie deficit per day is probably the most you want to do. Make sure the deficit comes from exercise too not just from diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 12:50 AM
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When I was 24 I think I went from like 210 all the way down to 160. The result was night and day. I can't even begin to describe it. I went from trying to do all the stupid smooth tactics without any results to having women hit on me. The fact is you really never know your ceiling unless you've been there. It may not be great. Or it may be better than you expected (as was the case with me). Definitely lose the weight. I did it too fast. I was eating like 600 calories a day and doing 2 hours of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 12:40 AM
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Maybe but when people say 20% I always assume the same age range. Maybe not exactly the same age. But I don't really see the point of comparing 18-25 year old guys to say 65-75 year old guys. Anymore then it would make sense to compare 20 year old girls to 50 year old women. They will almost always be more attractive. Shit in my age group I may be 20% but compared to the college aged guys I was competing with in my old town Gainesville Florida I was probably bottom 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:01 AM
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that 20% figure is way overrated. I am very far from top 20%. Maybe top 40% at best. I've had plenty of women physically attracted to me. They are just never anything to look at themselves. Usually fat or older or both. Those women have much lower standards. If you're talking about young fit 20 year old women then maybe your 20% has some truth to it. But that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:15 PM
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For sure. Nice post btw. I think men in general have a very hard time understanding female sexuality. The black and red pill ideas work in some cases. But only in some. The overall idea is lost on us. With guys its easy, if shes good looking we want to fuck. If were desperate she doesnt even need to be good looking. With women its a different ball game that too many people want to put in a neat package.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:05 AM
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That chick Guy 1 is dating is pretty fucking hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:21 PM
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That's a curious level of research there. I just know the name Elliot Rodgers. Never even saw the manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:19 PM
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Think about it this way. The reason we have contraception is because people want to fuck without consequences. We are the only species on the planet that recognizes that pregnancy comes from sex. Our bodies didn't evolve with that knowledge. A lot of our sexual instincts were passed down to us from our more ape like relatives. In fact the reason we want to fuck so bad and have contraceptive. Is exactly that. Because our bodies reward us for trying to procreate. We've just cheated the system to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:34 PM
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People aren’t getting depressed because they need sex by itself. They are getting depressed because they need the intimacy and validation and affection. The biggest complaints aren’t even getting oxytocin releases from hugs. That’s the main issue. There may be some truth to that. But you're probably missing at least part of the picture. There is a lot of hormones and chemicals involved with sex, pair bonding, child nurturing etc. To just say "go hug someone and get some oxytocin" is no different…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:52 PM
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Yes but our bodies haven't. You do realize that technology evolves infinitely faster than our bodies. We might be living in concrete jungles that we built to facilitate our needs. But our bodies are not built for that. They are built for real jungles with predators etc. The reason it's important is because the whole point of this subreddit is to understand human sexuality. Our sexuality is at least partially innately pre-programmed to us through DNA. Some of it is learned, some of it is not. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:48 PM
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Why does that matter? We didn't evolve with a Publix nearby. Food was always scarce and it was important to not waste it. That is why so many people in western societies get fat. Because despite the fact that our food supply problem has more or less been solved by technology our bodies don't know that. Unlike our technology DNA takes a while to get accustomed to the new environment. So even if the human need for sex has been supplanted by prostitutes and artificial insemination (which is debatab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:40 PM
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Yes but our bodies didn't evolve for millions of years with a sperm bank nearby. We're talking about the structure of our bodies. The genetic code evolved in an environment where sex was the only option for fertilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:07 PM
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Let's go back a couple of steps. These "sex is not a need" arguments basically step from the idea that you don't need sex to survive. While that is technically true you can live your whole life without having sex. It ignores the fact that a large portion of your programming (perhaps all of it) deals with reproduction. By programming I am of course talking about your individual genetic code. Yes you're right the offspring you create is not you. It's not the other parent either. The DNA of the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:25 PM
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Regarding the pyramid I'm assuming you mean Maslows hierarchy. I honestly don't know. I always assumed it was on a personal level. But it could be otherwise. I'm not really talking about Maslow. What I mean is the function behind needs. An individual needs food to survive. Without he will die An individual needs water to survive. Without he will die. Reproduction works the same way just a little bit more nuanced. Your DNA can't survive past your generation without reproduction. Without reproduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:50 PM
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I never said it made you immortal. I said its the only way for your DNA to survive after you die. That's not the same thing. How can it not be a tool for the survival of the species? If some virus went though 100% of our population and made us all incapable of having sex (or reproduction, there's actually some books with that premise). Then our species would die. I know that's unlikely but the fact remains the specie needs reproduction to survive. Your particular DNA also needs reproduction to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:35 PM
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Your DNA needs it to survive. Because without reproduction you will die and your DNA will die with you. If you really think about it you are your DNA. This is why this whole argument that sex is not a need is always so strange to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:36 PM
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You remind me of my best friend. He likes to say the same thing "it's just Wikipedia". While never providing any sources of his own. At least I can find articles that say the same exact thing I'm saying. I've never heard anyone contest that sex feels good because it rewards humans to reproduce. It's really somewhat of a strange idea to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:47 PM
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I'm not going to dig through psychology research papers. Though they likely would say the same thing. But here's some basic sources for what I'm saying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure Many pleasurable experiences are associated with satisfying basic biological drives, such as eating, exercise, hygiene, sleep, and sex.[1] The appreciation of cultural artifacts and activities such as art, music, dancing, and literature is often pleasurable.[1] I'm sure you've heard of Sigmund Freud Freud pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:45 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour#Motivation Even though the evolution-related purpose of mating can be said to be reproduction, it is not actually the creating of offspring which originally causes them to mate. It is probable that they mate because they are motivated for the actual copulation, and because this is connected with a positive experience. It is therefore reasonable to assume that there is some form of pleasure or satisfaction connected with the act. This assumpti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:23 PM
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What in your opinion is the reason humans enjoy sex? Why does it feel good? Let's start with that. I've stated my position. You disagree. Fine what is happening in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:56 PM
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definition of objective "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts." The fact that humans derive pleasure from sex = not my opinion, its an objective truth. The fact that the reason humans derive pleasure from sex in order to reward reproduction = not my opinion, its an objective truth. Yes she says that evolution doesn't say "I want humans to be rewarded for having sex and making babies". It doesn't say anything. Evolution is just a process. Humans or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:54 PM
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Right I get that we disagree here. https://www.quora.com/Why-evolution-gave-us-sexual-pleasure Here's how someone else worded it. In evolutionary terms. Well, first it's important to understand that evolution did not “give” us anything. Evolution is not directed, it is not a god. It's just a process. As to why sexual pleasure would be beneficial to survival and breeding, it's because it makes us more likely to have sex. Unlike most other creatures, humans are capable of understanding that having…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:48 PM
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There's both a subjective and an objective element to what I'm saying. Objective: Humans are programmed to enjoy the process of reproduction. Subjective: How we are programmed through DNA is important to understanding the reason for our existence. Which in my opinion (the subjective) part means that we exist to reproduce. ​ If you want to understand why a 20 year old woman almost never finds a 70 year old man physically attractive. Some people would say because society told her so. I disagree. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:34 PM
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So let's say your brain tells you, you are low on nutrients. Another way for saying "you are hungry". You stay that way for 48 hours. Then you finally find some food. The food tastes great. You have dopamine released in your brain. The food actually tastes way better than it usually does. Because of how hungry you are. You are saying this is not a natural process meant to keep you alive? The discomfort from being hungry and the dopamine released when you do find some sustenance. Like it's just r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:24 PM
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I'm a bit confused to what your point is. Human brains release dopamine when we do certain things. Eat sugary food. Have sex. Do drugs. Drink alcohol. There is a reason for all of it. Do we agree on that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:58 PM
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Well yeah that's what I've been saying all along? We are programmed to reproduce. But somehow that has nothing to do with reproduction. okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:55 PM
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Ironically this idea that "we live to reproduce" was something that was taught to me in Psychology 101 in University of Florida. They literally stated that everything we do in life is somehow tied to reproduction. I guess you studied under a different ideology. I always just assumed people know sex feels good to make us reproduce. The same way people know we eat food because we need the nutrients. Never thought I'd have to actually like google for it. But hey its not just me https://www.webmd.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:52 PM
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So wait a minute. You honestly think that the reason your genitals feel good during sex IS NOT BECAUSE OF REPRODUCTION? Like honestly? Strange belief. I mean ok I have no problem with you believing that anymore then I have a problem with religious folk. If nature didn't reward reproduction. Species wouldn't reproduce. There would be no life on this planet. Same as if nature didn't reward eating when you're hungry or water when you're thirsty. Not sure how you don't see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:41 PM
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Its really simple You say you are sexually active. Why are you sexually active? Probably because it feels good. You enjoy it on a physical and psychological level. Why do you enjoy it? Because you are programmed through nature to enjoy it. Why? Because nature rewards you for reproduction. I think you're smart enough to understand all that. This is pretty simple stuff. The whole point of PurplePillDebate is for people to explore human sexuality. Why do men act this way? Why do women tend to choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:20 PM
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Your DNA can survive without penis in vagina, 100%. So what? I never said it couldn't. The technology you speak of didn't exit for 99.9999999999999% of the history of human evolution. This is what we are ultimately talking about. How humans are built. Why humans are built that way. In my view, most humans on Earth get punished for reproduction and marriage, both of which actively ruin or harm human lives every day. If most people tempered their reproductive obsessions, we might be living a much …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:04 PM
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Wait I never said it was perfect or even good. DNA is just what it is. Some parts are very good like our brain. Some parts are pretty bad like for instance the appendix that went bad inside my body. Was it not for a surgeon I'd be dead today. The reason I say reproduction and survival are the same thing is because YOUR DNA can't survive without reproducing. You cease to exist once you die. I get that we humans tend to separate those things. But from a biological point of view there isn't much of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:50 PM
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To me reproduction and survival are one and the same. Why do we derive pleasure from food? Because it benefits our survival. Why does it feel good to be in a warm place after youre cold? Because it benefits survival. Our body is designed to survive. Everything that we enjoy, we enjoy because it benefits our survival. Even the drugs we get addicted to. They trick our brain into flooding us with chemicals that tell us that "you are doing something helpful to your survival". What does reproduction …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:15 PM
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The analogy of Napoleon may not be great for someone outside of the United States. Because in the US I assure you most people only know Napoleon for being short. He is 100% dead on about the reproduction stuff. You can't just will away your objective reason for existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 12:59 PM
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Would you tell a bunch of chicks "I like your friend cause she has a great ass"? Some guys are capable of doing that. But you need some social inhibition to do that. It's a lot safer to be like "she's a nice girl" or some shit. I think everyone kind of figures you are sexually attracted to her. So it's not like some pure female intentional gaslighting. It's just a stupid social standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:24 PM
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I think that's a very dangerous misconception. You really gotta spend some time socializing to see how false that is. Women will try all sorts of men for all kinds of reasons. 20% of the top men have it better than 80% of the other men. For sure. But saying that anything below that is automatically not attractive is just nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:13 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm. As far as cheating yeah I totally agree. Now as far as clothes. I think men do undervalue it a bit. Reason being we don't ever learn how to dress properly. Women are taught from an early age to find clothes that accent their features. So if a woman has a nice ass she's going to find clothes that accent that. If she has good tits same thing. She can be a normie but properly dressed she looks like a Stacy. I'm not saying that clothes can turn an incel into a Chad. That's a pipe drea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:01 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with being nice or affectionate towards a woman. The problem is doing it towards women who are not really into you. If she's writing "its gay shit like that, that makes me want to cheat". She's probably already thinking about cheating and just looking for an excuse to do so. He's better off without her. Yes it turns some women on when you treat them like dog shit. But there's just as many women who are turned off by that assholish behavior and actually prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:44 PM
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Have you tried online dating? It is very heavily skewed towards physical appearance which should benefit you if your self assesment is accurate. You may have a hard time closing the deal for a while but at least youll get to take some shots. I can relate to having a small social circle and it is definitely something that can cause poor results in the dating market. If you dont enjoy social interactions like me its hard to build a social circle. Ive had to force myself to do it. I have no drive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 03:54 PM
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Did you go to college or high school? You really think that good looking males do not achiever better and more consistent results when it comes to dating? I'm not even talking shit. Asking legit questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:56 PM
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hahahah I literally lol'd. That was pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:38 PM
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I've been thinking about a theory that is different from yours. Women and men have different attraction switches. Men: A) Physical Appearance Women A) Physical Appearance B) Ability to provide and nurture the young. Which is where you get attraction to status, money, charisma etc etc. Basically signs that you are a capable provider. ​ It makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Men can just impregnate a woman and haul ass. A man can impregnate several women and just play the numbers game. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:29 PM
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Some men do yes. Just like some women monkey branch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:49 AM
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I don't understand why this is such a mystery. Fatter people are just not as physically attractive. Our attraction switches developed over 1000s of years. Most of our evolution was not spent in big cities with a super market full of groceries nearby. A fat person usually meant that they were either lazy, diseased or stupid. It was a sign of a poor mating partner. Which is why overwhelmingly majority of people both male and female prefer fit partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:40 PM
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I didnt actually bang any of them (well maybe once or twice, they were much younger but fat). Most of the time I just knew thats what they wanted but had absolutely no reciprocal interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 11:24 PM
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Hey i wasnt bragging Just saying its not 8/10 men only who can do that. Most normies can too if they dumpster dive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 11:22 PM
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Thats not really true. I was 36 years old, balding, small frame, crooked teeth, very skinny. I could probably go home with a different fat or old chick every night if I wanted to back when I was going out. And yes it had nothing to do with game or charisma. I didnt even talk to most of them. They just dont have very high standards. They also knew i wasnt interested which makes chicks try harder (if they are interested in the first place, doesnt work if they dont give a shit).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 11:01 PM
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Don't women already do that? It's called AF/BB in some circles. Women get sick of chasing after the McDonalds and start eating Broccoli with a guy who is not as physically attractive. I believe the AF/BB is way too extreme of a mentality. Because it assumes every man fits into a distinct category. The real world is far more nuanced. Every man is somewhere between AF and BB. Nevertheless women already do it. They call it "maturing". Same with men actually. We all chase after the Stacies when we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:52 AM
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Forcing yourself to eat a less calorie dense food is not quite the same thing as having sex with people you dont find attractive. You have to eat something to survive. You can wait for a long time not to have sex. Most people will derive very little pleasure from forcing themselves to get into sexual relationships with people they arent interested in. If the person can find those they are interested in why in the flying fuck would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:54 PM
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So what do you suggest? We dont have genetic engineering yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:47 PM
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Gene's evolve a lot slower than our technology. If you took a bunch of humans from 10,000 years ago and raised them in our environment. Apart from maybe lactose intolerance and immunity problems they would be nearly identical to us. The same things we found attractive out there in the jungle are what guides our impulses now. Asking a human to just switch off their natural urges is like telling a fat person to just stop being hungry for a while. It's not going to happen. Doesn't work that way. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:16 PM
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How does a woman rape a man? Legit question not trying to be funny. What constitutes female on male rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 12:03 PM
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Why do they hate women period? The whole ideology is based around the fact that people cant control who physically excites them. So why do you hate 50% of the population for doing exactly what nature intends them to do? Never made any sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 12:00 PM
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I remember watching a youtube video from Alpha Male Strategies titled "how to make a woman obsessed with you" (something along those lines). He then proceeded to explain the narcissistic abuse cycle to the t. Like the OP said it only works on a specific demographic. It also is very difficult to pull off if youre not a narcissist already. It requires a level of apathy a normal person doesnt have. Because you are required to repeteadly injure the person through emotional abuse as part of the "stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:04 AM
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Yes absolutely. A cute chick with drug issues and some personality disorder. A lot of guys will ignore the warning signs. Especially younger
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:25 AM
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It's like this There is the possibility that: 1) He was attracted to you. Liked you. But found that you didn't have a career incompatible. 2) He didn't like you at all. Maybe because he wasn't attracted to you. Maybe he was attracted to you but had something better lined up. Basically the career thing was not the reason at all. Insignificant in reality. BOTH are possible. But one is a lot more likely. Reason being most men just don't give a rats ass about career if they find a woman attractive. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 10:50 AM
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Funny enough i was pointing out that both sexes do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:45 AM
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Judging by what she said it is far more likely the guys werent interested to begin with.... in anything. Just like women instead of stating the real cause they give them some half ass lie about career.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:07 AM
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Male! Jk jk. Well sorta.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:05 PM
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Most people who complain don't complain because they can get in a relationship but choose not to. Because they are too "risk-averse". That is nonsense. They can't get into a relationship period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:06 AM
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The thing about height... I used to be hardcore blackpill (though not really an incel). However getting out of the house and actually paying attention to couples. Getting into a relationship myself. Those things have made me a lot more moderate. The black pill is very right about one thing. Physical attraction is a prerequisite to a degree for both men and women. There is a "threshold of attractiveness" that you have to meet before you are even considered as a mate. Which is in start contrast to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:00 PM
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I'm originally Russian so I already spoke Russian. In Ukraine most people are bilingual and a lot of people use Russian instead of Ukrainian in day to day speech. When it comes to official business sometimes my lack of Ukrainian language trips me up but otherwise it's not really a problem. The people (not just women) in Kiev are absolutely beautiful. There is so many good looking people here it's insane. The place itself is also beautiful. I haven't seen any violent crime at all in the 4 months …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:12 PM
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Talking about the house to a guy who cant even get through the door. Is like trying to teach a starving african about the importance of proper nutrition and not overeating. At the end of the day hes just going to look dumbfounded "you mean some humans have plenty of food and have other things to worry about?". Its a hierarchy. Rich people worry about all sorts of dumb shit that poor people cant comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:10 PM
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Did just that. It helps that Im slavic myself. But I grew in Amurica. In Amurica the best I could do at my age was either drug addicts (who were at least marginally attractive) or fat girls. Visited Ukraine and found a wife. Ended up moving to Kiev because the visa process takes too damn long. Since Im half Ukrainian and have family that lives in Kiev it wasnt that huge of a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:05 PM
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What is the obsession with Yachts? Like seriously I don't get it. Wouldn't a really big house be a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:47 PM
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I dont get it. Whats wrong with that statement? I am male. Seems fairly accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:06 AM
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Me personally I have a hard time investing in relationships where there is no physical attraction. I used to buy into that whole "it's whats on the inside that counts". But anytime I actually tried relationships with people who had fun personalities but not physically attractive. I was always very apathetic. The thought of losing them just didn't scare me one bit. I would rather play video games or really just sit at home and do nothing than hang out with them. So it really depends. If the partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 08:35 AM
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I dont disagree. Anyone who spends time around other couples knows that most couples are not comprised solely of chads and stacies. That is not what I meant. I meant that when you have a lot of good options you tend to pick for personality and all that stuff. But a good option has to be at least somewhat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:40 AM
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People only choose for those things when they have options. Options = More than one person willing to date you WHO YOU ALSO LIKE. If you have no options or only one option. Personality, life goals, morals.... all those things don't matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:19 PM
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A good looking face can easily overcome height. Also height doesnt take in consideration frame. Im 6 foot tall with a small frame. Guys that are 5 foot 9 with huge frames are way stronger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:54 PM
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First of all the top 40% of men are not touching a 40 something obese chick with a kid. If her standards are "top 40% of men" the only thing she'll ever get is an occasional chubby chaser. Problem with chubby chasers is that they are similar to Chad since they have a ton of options (options that most guys just plain ol don't want). Which means they either treat you like shit or never commit at all. Secondly I can tell you from personal experience that my standards and preferences have changed a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:50 PM
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Such a strange statement. You honestly believe that all women have the same exact standards and appetites? So a 20 year old gorgeous chick who can have sex with just about any man and can get a ton of Chads to commit. Is going to have the same standards as an obese single mother in her 40s? Think about your male friends. Do you all have the same exact standards? What makes you think that women do then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:16 PM
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That first one is pretty nasty. I would imagine they are catering to a very niche audience. I sincerely hope they dont think normal men actually find that attractive. The worst part is when you see before and after pics of good looking women who mutilated themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:32 PM
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Their standards seem to be quite different from what a real man wants. Runway models are a good example. They are often so skinny they look diseased. Skinny women in general are more attractive to me. But even them being "my type" at some point you are way too skinny. Same thing with those wierd duck lips that they pay for. It looks horrendous to any man. Yet women line up in droves to get that disfigurement done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:49 PM
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It's also possible that after 7 years he was tired of the same ol same ol. There used to be a common saying amongst men "Show me a 10/10 super hot model looking chick and I'll show you a guy who is tired of fucking her". Some of it has to do with male nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect So he found another option. Decided to try it out. Found out that it wasn't nearly as good as he thought it would be. The "grass is always greener" effect. Or better yet the problems he had in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:48 PM
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I live in Florida. Not sure about fitness enthusiasts but definitely a lot of people "of color". Maybe its different in other areas of the country but in Florida... the dirty south.... Black women over 30 are almost all overweight . I swear Im not trying to be racist its just an observation. My best friends wife is black, shes not in shape per say (has a little extra weight) but shes not fat either. Shes the exception to the rule. She had like 5 sisters every single one is obese. So this whole "…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:17 AM
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Why are we even comparing an attractive 40 yr old woman to an unattractive guy? In my experience 40 year old women who are still attractive are very rare. She was probably drop dead gorgeous when she was in her 20s. In general I agree there is a bigger range between individuals than there is in age. And I agree women in general regardless of age have a higher sex appeal than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:13 PM
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Younger is not ALWAYS better looking. Some people get in a lot better shape in their 30s. Some people learn how to dress and take care of themselves. But thats only some. The majority of people peak attractiveness is in their younger years. Thats especially true for young women. But its true for young men as well. Young men are stronger, healthier and more robust. Again on average. Some guys spend 10 years in the gym and are way stronger at 30 than 20. But what % of guys actually do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:27 AM
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There's truth in all 3. My dad said something that I find is more accurate the more I look into real life situations. I am very lookist. So it's extremely difficult for me to comprehend things like "Personality is what matters". Mostly because until I find you attractive your personality DOES NOT MATTER (in terms of my sexual selection that is). Here's what my dad said. A) "Some people are even more lookist than you. They will absolutely never date anyone unless they sweep them off their feet wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:16 PM
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My attachment style depends on how much I like the person and by proxy how attractive I think they are. Yes I have dated people I wasn't all that attracted to. Back when I believed the Blue Pilled "Its what's on the inside that counts". After several terrible relationships where we were both miserable I realized it was all a lie. Anyway 1) If I like the person.... Anxious. I think they are better than me and I am constantly afraid to lose them. 2) If I don't like the person.... Avoidant. I'm emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:53 PM
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Honestly I disagree. I worked in an office full of older women for 7 and a half years. There was a ton of women that I had absolutely no interest in hitting on me. They were often 15-20 years older than me. And I'm not that attractive. But relative to them I was. Their SMV had gone way down hill because they were often past 45 years old. Women and men are similar in a sense that the won't hit on people they think they will never have a chance with. It's probably even more true for women. So when…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:48 PM
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I disagree with this whole "You have women of all age ranges available to you once you are older". That may be true for good looking guys. But it's true for them even when they are young. Most older guys who are average looking LOOK WORSE than they did when they were young. Their sexual appeal has gone down. Just like a woman's has. Maybe not quite as much, but enough to be noticeable. I can speak from personal experience the attractive options I had in my early 20s completely evaporated by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:43 PM
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Those same guys who say that would fall head over heels in love if an attractive woman treated them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:17 PM
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Ok now explain "dogmatic knowledge" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:26 PM
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They only say that because they are upset that the women don't like them. They are after sex. But they are NOT after JUST SEX. They want the companionship that goes along with it. The sexual affection that doesn't include sex. Like kissing, hugging, giving each other back rubs etc. The non sexual affection like laughing at each others jokes. Spending time together. Blah blah you get it. When a person doesn't get it for whatever reason. Be it because they are ugly. Be it because they are lazy uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:23 PM
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I think it depends on how you define game. If you define game as some magic ability to get a woman who is otherwise not interested in you... interested in you. Then it's probably even less then 30%. But if you define game as knowing how to get the best results out of what you're working with. Then it's important. To me game can be knowing that a certain type of woman will NEVER WANT YOU. It can be knowing when to give up and chase someone else. It can be knowing where to be like geomaxxing. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:10 PM
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Very simple. Men have figured out that if you hit on 1 woman your chance is 1/1000. So the best thing to do is to hit on a ton of women. On the internet you can accomplish this very quickly. You could easily validate up to 50 women an hour. Or more depending on the medium. Multiply that by a lot of men..... well you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:18 PM
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All good. Google auto corrected it. I didn't even notice you misstyped it. I've never heard it all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:33 PM
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That's a difficult subject to debate on. Because like you said there is still a lot that we don't know. I recently moved to Ukraine. My cousin knows a lot of very powerful people. Yesterday one of the guys in the Ukrainian government gave me a ride. Very smart guy. We talked about this exact subject. I often oscillate between sides on the Free Will debate. My instinct tells me that our brains work just like computers and we just fill in the gaps. There is actually some scientific basis behind it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:25 PM
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sequitor Well I learned a new word today! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:18 PM
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Hard to say. You mentioned that the men had to be desperate. Desperate men develop feelings very quickly. That's true for me and I've heard others say it too. Once you develop feelings your brain sort of fills in the gaps. That's why the question is so odd. If he likes you of course he likes your personality. He might only like your personality because you're hot to him. But he still likes it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:58 PM
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What's the difference in your opinion? You drink water to stay alive. You have sex so that your genes can stay alive after you die. It's just an added layer. Simple as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:53 PM
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Sommer Ray What's wrong with what Sommer Ray is doing. If women were willing to pay me millions of dollars to take pictures of me. You really think I wouldn't do it? (sadly nobody wants to pay a penny but that's besides the point lol). Seriously...... she is very talented. Being attractive is a talent. She stays in shape. Works on her craft. I don't see anything wrong at all with what she is doing. I see plenty of women who are just as hot as her. But they are not nearly as successful as her. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:37 PM
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Chad can stick around for the kids. He might sleep around here and there but he won't leave because he actually cares about them. That's probably what a lot of those Chad chasers are hoping for. Get knocked up and keep him locked up. Which is why a bunch of hot women saying "I'm pregnant" has always been such a strange dread from other men. That would be like paradise for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:24 PM
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You have to define "like her as a person" better. I am probably what you describe as a "beta male with a scarcity mindset". I was very lonely for a long time. Whenever I had the wiff of an attractive chick liking me I instantly liked everything about her. I found reasons to "like her personality". If she was a bitch I'd be like "look how tough she is". You find reasons to like someone if you want to like someone. I'm not sure your question even has an answer. To me you kind of have to like the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:19 PM
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you want to enjoy your life for what it is and a partner is someone you want to share and enjoy life with, not someone that you need to make your life enjoyable. That sounds great in theory. But not everyone can do that. For instance take me. Everything I enjoy is done in solitude. Or it's a sport that women don't play. For the most part I'm happy just sitting at home playing video games and shit. In order to get me out of the house and socialize I HAVE TO BE LOOKING FOR A CHICK. Nothing else re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:57 PM
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I'm afraid it's not that simple. You could say the same thing about Gay men. The fact that gay men exists proves that we don't follow nature. Because nature wants us to have kids. Two men can't have children. But the reality is a lot more complicated. The same things that make men interested in sex with women is what's driving their sexual urges for men. It's the same exact structure it's just not working as it normally would. You can find biological reasoning for just about everything you do. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:38 PM
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Am male. Great sex with one woman every single day. That probably means the woman is very attractive. Bad sex usually means she is not very attractive. I'll take the great sex all day long. As would a lot of men I presume.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:18 PM
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What % of strippers and prostitutes are male? I think that's the first clue that male and female sex drives at the very least "different". My best guess it would be like height. Most men are taller then women. On average. But sometimes women are taller. Some men are short in general. I wouldn't say that every single man is exactly 9 times hornier then a woman. There are probably plenty of men out there that have similar or even lower sex drives. I don't think the difference is quite as large as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:16 PM
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Some women are lesbian. Are they also lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:09 PM
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I think the 80% figure is wrong. It's a very rigid limit that doesn't really make any sense if you put some critical thinking behind it. For one people very much adjust their standards to what they have available. If a chick has 20 10/10 guys who want to date her. Let's say she is a celebrity of some sorts. Her % isn't going to be 80%. It will probably be like 95% or even higher. Likewise if the same exact chick lives in some hick town somewhere where the only attractive guy is already married a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:07 PM
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I've spent the last 18 months or so carefully paying attention to couples. I also fell for this whole "Women are hypergamous" crap. Here is what I found. 1) Most couples are looks matched. Probably like 80% of them. There's no such thing as a perfect looks match. But the couples are usually within the range of each other. You're not going to see too many femcel looking chicks with a Chad and vice versa. I think I saw one fat girl with a guy who maybe was a Chadlite. That's about it. 2) When you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:56 PM
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I don't know what you've heard from others. But I do honestly believe that procreation is about as important as food or air. The entire purpose of any DNA entity is to survive. You first need things like food, air, security etc. But you're going to die and the only way to continue living is to have children. The biological urge to reproduce is a lot stronger than a lot of people give it credit for. That whole "just learn to be happy single" thing absolutely never made any sense to me. You can su…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:19 PM
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Maybe everyone would be "happier". But it would only fill a small portion of the void that chronically single men feel. It's by no means a solution to anything. Just a small band aid that doesn't really address the core of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:15 PM
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Gets you off your ass. Motivates you to go to the gym. Go find some stupid hobby. Get a haircut. You know the whole self improvement thing. I'm not saying you can't motivate yourself without it. But it helps if you're constantly horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:02 PM
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Masturbating and the real thing are very different. Even having sex with a prostitute feels a lot better than masturbating. Having said that. A lot of men are doing exactly that. Most probably without even realizing it. They masturbate to porn so much that they have far less desire to actually go after finding a relationship. They get fat. Which then requires effort to lose the fat. I think the NOFAPPERs exagerrate a lot on the benefits of no porn and no masturbation. But there is some truth to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:35 PM
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ehhhh I usually argue against Red Pill stuff but I have to disagree with this. 1) The average human male penis is the biggest among all apes. So we have kind of evolved to have large penises. Gorilla's are much bigger than us but have smaller dicks. https://www.ladbible.com/now/interesting-heres-why-humans-have-bigger-dicks-than-other-apes-20170125 2) The population has exploded the past 200 years. Thanks to innovation in agriculture amongst other things. That leaves a lot of room for traits to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:16 PM
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DNA = Hive mind We don't need to be interconnected by some Avatar like invisible 4th dimension neuron network. It all comes down to DNA. That is why me and women act a certain way. Just like Male lions all act very similar.... Do they have a hive mind as well? Probably not. It's just in their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 08:33 PM
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Had to google that. Yep something like that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:57 PM
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Youre focusing on the negative effects of testosterone. It also is a large ingredient in sexual arousal and muscle growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:56 PM
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Because we would still be human. Ancient (perhaps useless) bioligical urges in a futuristic sci fi world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:55 PM
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Anything human would be free to make their own choices. We dont condone human slavery in my utopia :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:54 PM
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shit...... They would probably have Virtual Reality type games where you get to live your entire life out as a Lion or some shit. But a bad ass Lion who can think like a human and is way stronger than all the other Lions....... We could really go far with this thought :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:05 PM
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No idea. Obviously humans will be altered to some degree. I think we can both agree on that. But removing 50% of the hormone that makes a man... a man. Not only am I suspect about it being attractive to women. I also think it would make men's lives worse. I think the nanobots would take care of all the cleaning :) We would take showers for the joy of water not because it's dangerous and stinky not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:03 PM
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Humans would still have a very wide range of personality traits. I suspect some men would go exactly that route. A genetically modified woman who is unquestionably yours and never back talks etc etc. I also think a good portion of men would want a woman who is more real. Real in a bad way to some degree. I mean if you think about it if you live 100,000 years how many times are you going to get married, have kids, break up, find another wife, rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:00 PM
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I don't know if women would really want men to be more feminine. That aggression and toughness turns a lot of them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:57 PM
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I watched that movie. But I never watched the first one. I think you have to watch the first one to understand what is going on. I was very confused the whole time. Yeah but why would they choose them over real women? Think about everyone has Chad like genetics. Nobody gets fat or old. You have 1000s of years to "work on your game" or your social skills or whatever. It really is about your personality in that environment. You can always find someone attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:56 PM
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I'm sure some would go that route. I'm sure there would be guys living in their Virtual Reality worlds with their alien looking AI women who fulfill their needs. I suppose a level of "natural" would be preferred by a lot of people (not everybody). You can have sex with some AI who doesn't have the freedom of choice. Or you can have sex with a real human being who chose to have sex with you. Some people don't give a shit either way. Some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:48 PM
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Yes you can. But it's a lot more rewarding with a partner. In this scenario we don't reproduce to survive. People can't die anyway. They reproduce for the pleasure and the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:41 PM
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You still get to raise children. We're not rewiring our nature all that much. There is still a "natural reward" associated with creating a new life and nurturing it. Same with sex and companionship. We will still value those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:39 PM
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Yes I probably should have mentioned Gattaca. It would be a like Gattaca and Time when it comes to genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:30 PM
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The premise already has some really incredible technology. Nanobots that fix complex tissue. Consciousness back up. Those are things that are more difficult to accomplish than provide housing. We could mine the asteroid belt and build ourselves planets after we're done terraforming every planet and moon that can be terraformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:29 PM
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Well I would argue you could satiate the competitive drive with all sorts of things like Realistic Virtual Reality games and all sorts of sporting events. The superiority doesn't actually have to mean anything. Think of how hard people work to become big players in MMO's. Their accomplishments are rather meaningless in the real world. But you bet they work they ass off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:21 PM
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If you got healing nanobots and consciousness back up. I imagine the Virtual Reality gaming would offer all sorts of opportunity to get into some hardcore action. Perhaps we are a simulation of a more difficult virtual universe for the people living in an otherwise boring safe utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:20 PM
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You specifically asked about a preference. Here's my take on that matter. 1) Women who are attractive without make up are usually more attractive period. So when a man says "I prefer women who don't wear make up" he is thinking of some super hot chick who didn't need make up to be hot. He is not thinking of some fat ugly chick with no make up. 2) Some women go way too far with make up. They go way past the "at this point you look worse" mark. My wife and my best friends wife are perfect examples…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:56 PM
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1) it was guerilla warfare. The rebellion here would have to try to hold land something the vietkong were not trying to do. 2) US didnt lose. If you look carefully at the battles. Apart from the tet offensive the US was in control the entire time. They "lost" because we withdrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:10 PM
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Civil war is very very unlikely. The military would likely crush any rebellion with little effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:00 PM
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The % of single mothers would rise significantly. The vast majority of kids wouldnt be raised by their biological parents. Marriage would be a thing of the past. Because women would cheat 10 times more now that their sex drive is similar to men. Chads would still rule the day. Theyd have even more sex. Average guys would get laid a lot more. But the sex would often be meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 07:47 AM
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Its sort of survivial. If you are a manager and you're not capable of firing people who aren't pulling their weight. You won't be a manager for too long. Either because you yourself will get fired or you will drag the business under.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:45 PM
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"innocents" maybe no. But it's really not that hard to convince someone that a person or even a group of people are guilty. The Nazi party through the use of propaganda convinced a lot of Germans that the reason for Germany's economic woes (which were pretty awful) after WW1 was a jewish conspiracy. They believed it the same way we believe our governments now. There was no internet back then either. When they were gassing jews they thought they were gassing those responsible for misery. Though h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 01:28 PM
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Why are you firing them? Maybe you have no choice. You're saying 5,000 people. Maybe you have 50,000 on the payroll and if you don't fire the 5,000 then the whole business goes under. Most companies don't profit from firing 5,000 productive employees that are bringing them more $. They fire people either when they've hired too many or the business is in a decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 01:08 PM
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Chad to me is looks based. If %1 of women find you physically attractive.... you're not a Chad. if %50 of women find you physically attractive... you're most likely a Chad. Also there are levels of attraction. Some people are "gorgeous" while others are just "cute". Again Chad will have a higher % of women who think he is gorgeous. But it will never even be remotely close to %100. I agree that a lot of things that are attributed to Chads is greatly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:51 PM
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You have to be more specific then. Nothing you said is wrong. It just sounds like you don't believe attractive men have it easier when you say "Chad is a myth".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:40 PM
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Good looking guys are a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:11 PM
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He was talking about working out and generally being lazy. Not necessarily "basic things" like brushing your teeth and wiping your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:17 PM
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1) Don't allow yourself to gain too much weight. 2) Stay in shape. Constantly go to the gym. 3) Looks matter. When you are in your early 20s you will be attractive enough to get what you want. As long as you follow #1 and #2. 4) Don't date black women. I'm really not being racist here. Just never worked out for me. This advice is strictly for me. It's bad for others. 5) Get rid of your toxic friends. Make new friends. 6) Do weightlifting and wrestling when you get to High School. Don't do Cross …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:55 PM
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Most guys would gain a ton of weight and just play video games, masturbate, get drunk/high and do other dopamine inducing shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:30 PM
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"Needing to get laid to motivate you to do basic things is pathetic" I really hate when people say that. It feels like a total lack of self awareness. Humans are programmed from day 1 to survive. Since reproduction is required to survive past the current generation it is part of our primary driving force. Most of what feels good is reward for surviving. There's a hierarchy. If you can't get air you're not going to worry about getting laid. If you can't get food or water... you're probably not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:28 PM
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Withhold sex for several months? That is horrible advice. If the guy has any value whatsoever (has options) he will just walk. Even if he likes the chick. Mainly because he will see it as a sign that she is not into him. Regardless of whether she really is or isn't. Edit #1 Wait holy crap just read the whole thing. "Never initiate contact" and "never give affection". This shit will only work on men who are madly desperate. It will work pretty well on them actually. This is not a guide to keeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:49 AM
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Men were dominant because of big muscles. That's it. That's all there is to it. There was no grand conspiracy by a bunch of dudes to hold women down. It was just the fact that an average man can beat the shit out of most women. Nowadays we don't do that because we are civilized. But back in the day when a lot of confrontations were solved through physical violence. Men always had the upper hand in the way things go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:49 PM
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It's an introspection thing. I've liked the same stuff all my life. Who I went after has changed tremendously. But mostly due to circumstances not actual preferences. I used to "only date black girls". I always found white women attractive but they were way too hard to approach for me. So I always said I didn't like white women. Even though that was nonsense. At it's core what I preferred has never really changed. But what I said I preferred and how I acted on it has changed a humongous amount. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:36 PM
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Yeah average is perhaps a bad word. I meant "average looking person". Not ugly, not attractive. By definition fat is ugly for me lol. It's what the word "normie" means to me. The area between Chad and Incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:32 PM
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I dont doubt the art. I doubt that the common man actually preffered them over fit healthy looking women. I could be wrong. Thats just my point of view. Look at the super models of 1990s. Those skeleton looking chicks. They were never really what men preferred. Its just what that industry preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:57 AM
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That whole idea is so strange to me. I just dont see a guy picking a chubby girl over a nice fit athletic looking chick. My best guess is thin for them meant starved and gaunt. Meanwhile chubby would be what we would consider average nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:07 AM
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He could hang out on Tinder/Badoo/POF/Bumble etc every day if he wanted to. I guess he is somewhat constrained by time. I had a regular 9 to 5 with no real responsibility outside of it. So if I was a Chad I would have all the time in the world for women. Though I'd probably just be married and have kids already. What rating system are you using? Cause the 5s and 6s according to that truerateme forum... at least on their sample image, are pretty damn attractive. And that's sober. If you're at a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:10 PM
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It depends on the environment. A REAL CHAD. I mean a guy so good looking that most women instantly find him attractive. He doesn't really have to do all that much. Just go to a couple of night clubs. See which hottie is eyeing him. Figure out if she's single. Talk to her. I mean yeah it takes some effort. But compared to what a normie thinks in terms of effort we're talking apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 03:50 PM
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Not true. I've been approached. VERY FAR from a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:54 AM
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10 in a year? That is way off. There are guys that can do 10 in a week. Good looking one's too. Usually they have a combination of looks, charm and at money. I believe Magic Johnson said he was at 10,000 or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:50 AM
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They say 5 is average.... Average of what? So many women are fat. I'm not even trying to be a dick. OH and Summer Glau is way better then a 5. But I suppose may people will disagree with this and that rating. Just the overall thing of THOSE WOMEN being average doesn't sit well with me. The average woman is NOT ATTRACTIVE. Those 5s are quite attractive. If they want a true % representation then those women are really in the top 20-30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:02 PM
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I'm not the one who made the original post. I don't think of make up as tricking anyone. It's just a tool to make you look slightly more attractive. Of course, women are going to use it. It works after all. I wouldn't be surprised if men start using some sort of masculine make up soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:34 PM
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I've seen plenty of women with and without make up. The good looking one's stay good looking. The so-so chicks can lose some points but not really that much. It doesn't really help ugly chicks they are just uglier. If you really think that I wonder how many women have you actually been around? Legit question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:31 PM
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Your math is way off. Do you really think only 1% of women are attractive? You're also giving make up wayyyyyyy too much credit. It can make a chick look slightly better. But it's not going to turn a 4 into a 7. More like a 4 into a 4.5 or a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:03 PM
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Men fuck up when they have a chance as well. Women fuck down when they are forced to (like a lot of men in western societies are). A good example is after the war in Soviet Russia men who survived had tons of options. Because so many men died.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:47 PM
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Trying to get men to stop randomly fucking women below them is like trying to get a bunch of teenagers to stop drinking/smoking. You can make all the rational arguments you want. Won't make a lick of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:50 PM
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This is basically like lecturing a bunch of starving african kids that having plenty of food gets old very quicky. Yes you can live without sex and intimacy. Especially if you know you can get it if you tried. But if youve tried everything and you cant. Thats a bitter pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:09 PM
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His entire face looks totally different from the 2 pictures. The eyes is what really makes or breaks the face in my opinion. But just like the jaw it's just one of the many things that affect it's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:59 AM
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Maybe thats the basic core behind TRP. People who are otherwise equal. Same looks, status, money whatever. Whoever is confident enough to hit on more women will always have more options. So if you can somehow delude yourself into thinking that confidence is the only thing that matters. Your end point is almost certainly going to be better than your starting point. Regardless of the fact that confidence is only a small portion of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:32 PM
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I had a friend who couldn't gain weight no matter what he did. He ACTUALLY WANTED TO GET FATTER. Well maybe not fatter he wanted to get bigger. He would eat more than I would all day in one meal. On purpose. And just couldn't gain weight. He wasn't particularly active just had a super fast metabolism. Eventually it caught up to him. Now in his 30s he is quite fat. He wasn't a Chad or anything. But if he had looks to go with his metabolism. The only other thing he would really need to do is be ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:30 PM
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Fair enough. Though I've always kind of attributed it to the whole Dunning-Kruger deal. People are just not smart enough to know they suck at something. But yes I have definitely worked with some really confident fuckers who were utterly useless. But you could never convince them of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:22 PM
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Yes that is definitely what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:20 PM
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It depends on the circumstances. For example if you're a natural Chad than the blue pill may work really well for you. In some cases none of the pills will work. In some cases knowing the red pill/black pill will actually make things worse. You woulda been better off just doing the everyday shit everyone else does. As far as who has the science right...... Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle. All pills are exhagerrations of otherwise true statements. Some exhagerrate more than others. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:59 PM
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You have my Seal of Approval
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:17 PM
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What is that based on? Did someone actually do a study on this? Or is it just because the pareto principle can be applied to a lot of things they figure it applies here. How do they know its not 70/30 or 90/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:09 PM
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The thing about the Jaw and Height isn't that it doesn't matter. Is that its value is extremely over stated in the Black Pill and Incel communities. I often bring up "There are many guys who are objectively attractive who are either average height or have an average chin". The counter to my argument is always "if your chin sucks you will be ugly". Yeah maybe to some degree. But if you're missing an eye or your nose got ripped off by a dog... that too will have an effect on your appearance. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:57 PM
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Well it is purge week :) Honestly I don't know. You take a stocky guy who is say 5 foot 9. If you try to stretch him out. You have to keep his proportions. If he starts to get thinner as a result of getting taller. That won't necessarily increase his attractiveness (especially in the niche market that likes stocky guys). So it's a bit more nuanced than just "taller is better".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:26 PM
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It's one of the factors. I actually went out in the real world and observed couples. Took note of the guys who had attractive girlfriends. Many of them were way shorter than me (Im 6 foot tall). Some were maybe 5 foot 6 or 5 foot 7. But they had big robust builds and attractive faces. The way the black pill talks its as if anything below 5 foot 9 is a death sentence. And that is just not true. Same thing with jaw. Its like "you either have this super masculine jaw or you're an incel". That again…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:11 PM
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Sociopaths have a very low level of empathy. They can tell what they are feeling. But they have a very hard time relating to others feelings. This makes them terrible partners in a lot of cases. They are more likely to cheat (notice i say more likely, not guaranteed) They are more likely to lie about their feelings, use people. Most of all they lack often do not feel guilt for their actions. And yes women totally fall for those guys. Especially if they are good looking. Their lack of empathy mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:04 PM
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Online dating sucks for most people. Women hate it because its a bunch of sociopaths, idiots and socially awkward dudes. Men hate it because they outnumber women 3-1 in best cases thus their choices are "limited" at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:08 AM
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You were telling ALL WOMEN that if they have a platonic friend he would fuck them given the chance. I was correcting you saying "If they find her attractive". Meaning if he doesn't find the friend attractive that is not necessarily the case. I do agree that given the right circumstances most men would not say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:25 PM
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If they find her attractive. Most men don't dumpster dive as much as some of these forums would lead you to believe. Dumpster diving usually occurs with a lot of alcohol involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:06 PM
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Depends how you define settling. One of my friends tried to argue with me that if you're dating anyone other than your best possible partner you're settling. As if there's some 10/10 chick somewhere on the planet who would gladly date me I'm settling with anything that's lower than 10/10. I don't believe that. I think it's only settling if you are actively with someone you don't really want to be with. A situation where your choices are either bad or nothing. So you pick the bad choice over noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:28 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it at all. If it's in their nature its in their nature. It's like saying men are wrong for wanting nice tits and ass. It's wired into us. Gold digging whores to me are women who manipulate men into relationships. Think of a chick who has a real boyfriend and has some dude on the side paying for everything. That's a "gold digging whore". A normal woman who cares about the income of her partner is not a gold digging whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:31 AM
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Not necessarily. My sister makes $120k a year before bonuses. She used to say she could never date anyone who made less than her. Lately she has changed her tune a bit and says "I need someone who has some ambition, but he doesn't necessarily have to make as much as me". Point being even if they are making more than you how much you make and your ability to make more in the future still gets figured in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:45 AM
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You forgot a very important part of the equation. The girl has to like you. If you're left with 40% of women after your looks requirement. And only say 10% of women on the planet find you attractive (as is the case with me). Then you're already down to 4% without figuring in personality or money. With your requirements you could be down to 1/400 women matching your standard. Then you gotta figure how many of those 1/400 are not already taken. If the % of taken/single is an even 50/50 you're look…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:41 AM
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Nobody needs to tell them. I used to break my brain trying to figure out how inflation works. Then one day it hits me. Demand rises when everyone has more money so the prices just go up naturally when there is more $ in circulation. Same thing here. If the short/fat/ugly man CAN ACTUALLY get a woman by simply being himself. Then he will continue to believe it. But chances are reality tells him otherwise quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 08:10 AM
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I agree that social hierarchy is real. But thats a bit of a red herring. Being the most dominant man in the room wont necessarily make you the most attractive. Whos going to get the girl the 40 year old fat boss who is aggressive and likes to fire people. Or the cute 20 year old dude who is shy as fuck who gets paid min wage. My $ is on the younger better looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 03:10 PM
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I would argue women have far moes natural imperatives to take relationships seriously. In the wild it is 10000000 times easier for the man to run away from taking care of the child than the woman. In todays society we have child support and law enforcement. Those are all very recent occurrences. And its not like men 10,000 years ago were too stupid to tell its not their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 12:53 PM
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You're right. Some relationships are mutually beneficial. Actually a lot of them are. This subreddit tends to focus on all the one sided one's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:01 AM
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So women go out get degrees and get jobs. They get shitted on for not fulfilling their normal feminine role. Woman marries an older man. Gives him her most furtile years. Gives him child (or children). She is suddenly a freeloader. Does exactly what a woman is supposed to do in a traditional role. I really cant stand all this woman hatred its ridiculous. But at least figure out where youre stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:49 AM
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Half of the time they are only friends with you because they want to get in your pants. Half of the time they do see you as a friend at first. But due to proximity develop feelings. In both cases once you are rejected. Some men simply can't handle being around a woman who has rejected them. Perhaps they don't want to see you with another man (as is the case with me). Perhaps because their pride is hurt. Whatever it is. It's not really on the chick. Men don't need a whole lot to be lead on. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:07 PM
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I would imagine a good portion of these subreddits and forums are people like me. My goal isnt to get equality for men or to fix societies problems. I could give a fuck a about all that. My goal is to improve my position. To do that I want to understand the dynamics. The dynamics are very nuanced. There is a lot to dig through. People often make hasty generalizations. Sometimes people are just dead wrong. There is a lot to shuffle through. I think focusing on the genetic aspect is an important b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:06 PM
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We all make generalizations based on personal experiences. I'm not a particularly great looking guy. I've had I dunno maybe 20-30 different women chase after me throughout my life. Almost all of them I didn't like back. The 2-3 that I did, ended up being my girlfriends. We're talking blatant interest. The "I would like you to fuck me" type of interest that can not be mistaken. I've probably had a bunch of women show me indirect signs of interest and I didn't catch them. I can only imagine how of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:29 PM
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I agree with the premise that women would stop wearing make up. I think it's pretty obvious a lot of them would. HOWEVER I disagree with your assertion that female's value is somehow patriarchal in nature. All humans both male and female derive value from how attractive they are to their target audience. You easily could turn around and say "Men only work hard to get pussy. Thus this is a matriarchal society because men are controlled by vagina". Men are just as easily controlled by women's appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:59 PM
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Women chase men all the time. I think it would be more accurate to say the volume of men chasing women is much larger than women chasing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:28 PM
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There's another side of it. I'm a very productive member of society when I want to make $. But the only thing that motivates me to make $ is the idea that it benefits me in the dating world. (Whether it makes me attractive or not is debatable. But it definitely helps.). If you took that benefit away. I would become very lazy. My motivation would plummet. Imagine if suddenly a large group of men lost motivation in bettering themselves. In buildings things. Inventing things. etc etc. I'm sure you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:10 PM
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Yes but we dont control who we are attracted to. Indirectly at best. Whats the solution? For her younger version to force herself to date you even though she has no attraction to you? For her not to date you now even though she IS attracted to you because she wouldn't have been back then? Your beef is not with the woman Its with mother nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:10 PM
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Why does that even matter? I was better looking at 21 as well. Probably why I had bigger more stringent standards. How does that affect the woman I am dating now if I treat her well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:54 PM
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It depends on how you define "beta bucks". Take me for example. I have always been very looks oriented in regards to my mate selection. However the type of women I was interested in when I was 20 years old has changed dramatically now that I am 36 years old. As in my actual sexual urges have shifted to a different demographic. So if my demographics can change. Then what's wrong with a woman's demographics changing? I too have adopted more "reasonable" partners into the realm of what is attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:24 PM
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I think only 50% of the population is "secure". Everyone else has one of the pathologic one's. It's definitely something you can work on. I know with mine the solution is to date a secure partner. Over time their ability to make you feel comfortable translates into you being a more secure partner. I've been going to a CBT therapist. He is the one who taught me about attachment styles. Up until that point I used to think anyone who didn't act like me in a relationship didn't like me. I had no ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 06:22 PM
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You should read up on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory Sounds like a mostly "Anxious preoccupied" with some avoidant sprinkled into the mix. Since I suffer from a lot of the same issues I would obviously date someone like me. But someone like me probably wouldn't be happy with someone like me. Typically people with that attachment style end up with avoidants who are the polar opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 06:07 PM
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I don't agree with the women hatred/blaming either. It doesn't really make any sense to me. Seems counter productive. Obviously if your solution to a problem is to whine about it and come up with unrealistic solutions, that too is counter productive. So no argument there either. I guess its just the way it was originally worded. "Stop worrying about it" or "Learn how to be happy without it". Those all sound like fantastic pieces of advice. But have no practical applications in the real world in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:50 PM
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been seeing a therapist for 2 years. Been seeing multiple psychiatrists for i dunno at least 12 years. I have what I would consider mild OCD. But it recks my life. Tried many different drugs including illegal ones. People think that you start seeing a therapist and all of a sudden in 6-8 months all your problems dissapear. If only that was true. Funny thing is though. Ive always been this way. Long as I can remember. I remember pretty far too. I have vivid memories from as far back as when I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:38 AM
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Your argument boils down to "If you're unhappy single you will still be unhappy in a relationship". That may very well be true for some people. Who knows what the % is. Maybe its 90% maybe its 10%. Noone has ever actually done any studies on this. The reason I'm saying you're being dismissive is because even if its only 10%. Meaning 10% of people will actually feel a lot better in a relationship. Then you're giving them shit advice and ignoring their real problems. Ironically the same thing you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:07 AM
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What exactly is your argument. "Plenty of men are depressed despite getting pussy. Thus you shouldn't be depressed about not getting pussy". Ok yeah thanks pal. I'll get right on that. It's just as dismissive as the side of the argument you're trying to wage war against.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:45 AM
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This is straw man 101. Nobody is saying that relationship issues are THE ONLY problem that causes people misery. All we're saying is that it has caused us misery. If you're suffering from $ problems its natural to assume that people with $ are happy. Or that having money would make us happy. It's just human nature. That doesn't mean we don't recognize that people with $ have problems too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:50 AM
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Who knows. I don't have hatred for women so I can't really speak on it. I think most women hatred is actually outward manifestations of insecurity due to their own shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:24 PM
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A) I don't disdain women. I actually really like them. The whole dating scene being a shit show isn't their fault at all. B) But even if if I did. You can both disdain women and crave their affection. The two are not self exclusive. Men are wired to crave these things. Women hatred is more of a learned behavior that can occur for a large number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 03:44 PM
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I would imagine guys who frequent these subreddits and other TRP forums are probably NOT ALPHA. Honestly the whole Alpha Male thing is very loosely defined. When I think of an Alpha Male I think of the Mountain in Game of Thrones. 7 foot tall, humongous muscles, great fighter etc etc. He's not necessarily very good looking. A typical tik tok pretty boy can probably get 10 times more good looking vagege. ANYWAY. Normal men want real affection. Something you're almost never going to get from an es…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 03:41 PM
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Because its not about sex. I never understood this whole "just get an escort" thing. First of all you need the validation that the person actually WANTS to fuck you. Second of all sex is only a small part of affection. Youre not going to spend all day giggling at inside jokes, cuddling and generally having fun with each other if its an escort. Youll be lucky if shes personable enough to feign interest. Those are usually the most successful escorts. But ultimately its unsatisfying. It doesnt addr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:57 PM
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I think the one of biggest super power of them all is knowing when you are wasting your time. Being able to quickly deduce if the woman has sexual interest in you or not. That takes a lot of practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:16 PM
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I think you're confusing women's lower sexual drive compared to men. To no sexual drive at all. All you need to do is spend some time around horny women to know that everything you just said is not true. I have an older sister. She used to have 2 roommates her age. I used to hang out with them a lot because they were old enough to buy beer. They frequently talked openly about their sexual adventures. You don't have to take my word for it. But just about everything you said is COMPLETELY AND UTTE…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:41 PM
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I recently catfished as an attractive chick on tinder in Miami. I could write a long essay about it. But I'll spare you the unimportant details. She had so many different Chad options that..... yeah it's a waste of fucking time. She had Doctor Chads, Lawyer Chads, Firefighter Chads, Police Chads, Thug Chads.... whatever the fuck you want lol. Club and tinder are very different though. Almost every bar I go to there is a sitting area where you can talk. I honestly do believe that you can luck out…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:58 PM
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I've heard it said the other way. Basically if you want a one night stand. An average (not ugly) looking dude with a lot of charm can talk the panties off a drunk horny chick. But when it comes to having an actual relationship. Ya know the part where you see each other all the time and are at least supposed to be committed to only fuckign each other. That same charming dude will have far less success with the same exact girl. Mainly because she is not drunk and horny all the time and her prerequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:27 PM
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I think youre using the word attractive wrong. Whether someone is attractive or not has almost 100% to do with how they look. At least to people like me. If they are a hooker with 50 children I may decide that is too much for me. But its more like "shes hot but fuck that" rather than "she was hot but now she isnt".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:27 PM
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Chat rooms... sure. Discord Lineapp Whatsapp Just to name a few. I'm sure there are many others. I bet more couples meet through FB and Instagram than all the dating sites combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 11:26 PM
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There's also the volume factor. There is like 3 guys for every girl on tinder. If you take 40 women and 100 guys. And picked out the top 20 best looking one's. 50% of women will be "top 20" and only 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:43 PM
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Online doesn't mean dating app. Facebook = online Video games = online Chat rooms = online Reddit = online Instagram = online Too many people assume that this means that "40% of relationships staretd on Tinder and Bumble" which is far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:29 PM
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They are not necessarily lying. The people asking these questions are usually focused on more attractive women. Women like that have options. What's the last time someone asked some fat whale at the bar "what kind of men do you like?". Anyway when you get to choose from 10 different guys who are all attractive to you to some degree. Something a lot of men will never experience. Personality, charisma and compatibility really is what makes them choose one over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 12:18 AM
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A man doesn't need to be attracted to you at all to have sex with. Not true. There are men out there who have very low standards. But they are a minority. Most "normal" men who dumpster dive do so when they are drunk. But so do women. And I don't see how hookers and prostitution have anything to do with that. Most guy pay hookers THAT THEY ARE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO. Oh and most men don't really care all that much about n-count. After a certain age you realize most women have had a lot of sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 03:49 AM
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Well it's kind of a catch 22 If a billionaire feeds a starving village. They all survive because of him. He did it to feel good. Because his brain releases dopamine for being altruistic. Did he do it for himself? The people who are now eating because of him don't seem to care all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:16 PM
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altruism releases dopamine :) Nature intended it to feel good for us to "help others". Because it benefits our survival chances and reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:29 PM
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Right. And I'm saying you it should be "human sexual nature". That would be a far more accurate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:29 PM
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I actually googled the definition. hy·per·ga·my /hīˈpərɡəmē/ noun the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class. Based on that alone you would be right. Women tend to marry up in caste or class. Men don't give a shit to do that. The thing is the whole red pill/black pill has decided that this means that women are only willing to date people who are better then them one way or another. And that men do not behave the same way. I think this is a fundamentally flawed view. Men will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:42 PM
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Black pill. Though I'm really a mix of everything. I think I'm more black pill than anything because I believe looks trumps all. But I think it has a ton of flaws. Like A TON. A) Female hypergamy. I firmly believe men are hypergamus too. We're just hypergamus strictly for looks. The only reason men date down in terms of looks is because it's the best they can. Women would(and in some cases do) date down too if they were limited in options. B) 80/20 rule. It's just wrong. According to them 80% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:19 AM
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I've heard that said before. Makes sense. It's probably the equivalent of her cleaning the house. Cooking the food. Taking care of the children etc. Women have always had some sort of function that keeps them busy. They aren't meant to be just lazy asses who watch TV all day long. The idea is that males were the one's providing the resources that are difficult to attain. Through hunting or heavy foraging. Hence the bigger muscles and more athletic build. Edit: My grandmother who was born in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:32 PM
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How is he going to know your n count? Is there a record keeping bureau he can address? Possibly her friends. If you don't tell him chances are he's not going to know. Also most men aren't really going to judge that harshly. If you're a former street worker with an n count of 1000+ that's one thing. But otherwise as long as you don't have some serious STD or some shit. Most men are not going to give a fuck. Only the super religious type and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:29 PM
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It has benefited some. It has hurt others. There's also a group of people it had no real effect on. Let's assume for a second that a woman can develop genuine sexual and emotional feelings for a man over time. I don't know if that is actually true or not. But I've heard enough people say it's good enough to at least consider. In that scenario there's a large group of below average and average looking men. Who through hard work could secure a more attractive female. Have a couple of kids. Grow ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:25 PM
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I dunno man For every guy that will have sex with a woman just because she is rich. There is probably 10 or more women willing to do the same. Same with higher class. Female hypergarmy is more than just looks. Male hypergamy is ALL LOOKS. Rich guys don't travel to the phillipines to find themselves an old rich hag hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:23 AM
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I never enjoyed having sex with unattractive women. I don't even comprehend how other men do. It only happens to me when I get really drunk. And I'm absolutely disgusted by it the next morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:36 PM
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Any man who genuinely thinks sex is a chore is probably sleeping with a woman he has 0 attraction to. Otherwise they are probably just justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:23 PM
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You're confusing enjoyment with outward display of enjoyment. Just because men don't do those things. Doesn't mean that their experience is any less enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:21 PM
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Can you really change who you're attracted to though? You may be able to slightly temper your expectations. I've been able to accomplish that much. But fundamentally change it? Seems like a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:27 PM
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If men's nature is polygyny its a very weak driving force. I've had no problem preventing myself from cheating. All it takes is a little bit of self control. As opposed to fundamentally WHO YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO. That seems like a much stronger force. One that can't be mitigated through an ounce of will power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:08 PM
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I never comprehended it either. On one hand "Humans can't control who they are attracted to". Which I think is a true statement. On the other hand "Women have unrealistic standards. They are at fault for this growing crisis". If it's not something they control then how the hell is it their fault. At the end of the day I'm here to figure out exactly what's going on in the dating market. I don't care who's right or wrong. I don't care to demonize anyone. Assigning blame to anyone for anything in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:37 PM
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You'd have to show me what you mean by Average. Otherwise I can't in good conscience answer that question :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:20 PM
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Tell that to the hordes of young attractive chicks that turned me down :) I wish I was part of the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:28 PM
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Tell that to the hordes of fatties I've turned down at the clubs the past 12 months or so. Men can be choosers to. Men can be hypergamus too. Women being the stronger sex is a joke as well. Both sexes have their advantages and disadvantages. 99% of women can't kick my ass and I'm not even that strong. Women spend more time on make up and all that shit than men. They are competing too. They just compete differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:50 PM
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It really just boils down to the fundamental level. What is the point of any organism alive. From human down to a plankton? 1) Survive 2) Reproduce Since you kind of need to survive to reproduce. You can cut #1 out of the equation. So while yes technically a guy starving to death isn't going to worry about banging some Stacy. Truth is the only reason he wants to survive is to bang the Stacy. Of course all this is extremely basic and ignores nuance. I just wanted you to understand the point of vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:40 PM
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Funny you mention that. I was talking to some random guy on a random drunk night. Talking out of my ass mostly. I complimented him on his speaking ability. Told him he should look into public speaking. A month later I see the same dude. He took that shit to heart. Started taking classes and all that. It was just some off the wall random comment I made without giving it too much thought. Just thought it would be a nice thing to say. Was probably trying to impress some chick that was standing next…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:01 PM
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Have you tried tinder and all that jazz?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:49 PM
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Get a rebound. I know I know people always say you should get over your ex first. In my experience getting into a new relationship has always been the magic cure. My ex wife was a lot hotter than me. For a year I wallowed in misery when we broke up. Found a new girlfriend and completely forgot about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:24 PM
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The 400% figure is for men over 55. I can see fertility being a much bigger problem for a 55 year old male. Men dont hit menopause but as we age fertility lowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:10 PM
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That statement is a bit wrong. There is a 1 out of 59 chance of having a kid with autism which is 1.6% A father who is over 40 but under 50 has a %28 higher chance. Which makes it 2.1% instead of 1.6% In reality there is not a huge difference between 97.9% and 98.4% success rate. People make it sound like majority of the children men have after a certain age are bound to be fucked. And that is just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:39 PM
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It's a bit of a catch 22. Technically yeah "men peak in their 30s and 40s". But they peak in their abilities to attract women in their 30s and 40s. 22 year old women are not going out of their way to go find a bar with a bunch of 40 year old dudes. Unless they need their rent paid. Those places are called strip clubs. If you want to attract young hot prime women. You're going to want to be in their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:26 PM
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"After 35" That sounds like horrendous advice. At that point you're getting into an LTR with a woman who's either much younger than you or is going to run out of fertility quickly. I would say get into an LTR or marriage in your early 20s. That's when the chicks are the hottest and most fertile. The older you get the uglier you get. The worse your dating pool is going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:37 PM
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I'm very moderate. That's like asking me if I'd dump someone if they didn't like my favorite sports team. It's just not that serious for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 11:26 PM
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I work with a bunch of Trump lovers. They know I'm a democrat. We get along just fine. It's just not that serious. Most of us are not ramming cars into opponent rallies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:58 PM
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Its trivial if youre very moderate like me. Because I basically see both parties as full of shit. I think Trump is slightly more full of shit. But not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:45 PM
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I had social interactions. I was single and wasn't even trying. Because I was sick and despite the fact that I wanted a relationship I knew that I couldn't handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:51 PM
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I guess this is how I see it. I meet a chick. She thinks I'm cute. She's cute as fuck to. We get along great..... But she likes Donald Trump. First of all who gives a shit. Second of all if I can afford to throw away a perfectly good relationship over something so small. I probably have other cute girls in line. Otherwise I'm a cretin lol. That's just how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:48 PM
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That's an extreme though. In a lot of cases its "I like Trump" and "I like Bernie Sanders". Not "I think certain people deserve to be murdered by raging lunatics"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:43 PM
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I spent maybe 4-5 years in true isolation. That shit sucks. There's 7 billion people on the planet. I suppose some may actually genuinely enjoy it. My best guess is most people are miserable in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:43 PM
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You're talking about rules for extremes. Good looking men don't need advice cause they can just get what they want without doing much. Ugly men don't need advice cause they can't get right no matter what. The vast majority of men are neither ugly or attractive. Having the correct approach to a situation may not guarantee anything. But it sure as fuck improves their odds. Also nothing about my advice tells you to be nice to women or even treat them fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:57 PM
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Let's look at 2 pieces of advice. "You shouldn't care what people think about you" "You shouldn't worry about things you can't control" Both solid pieces of advice. A+. Would be great if I knew how to do that. But I don't. I do care what people think about me. I do worry about things I can't control. I don't choose to. I just do it's how I'm wired. A better advice would be. "This is how you stop caring about other people's opinions of you" "This is how you stop worrying about a meteor falling on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:35 PM
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If you can afford to turn down otherwise good options because of something as trivial as political views. You're probably already doing pretty well anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:12 PM
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You have to see the context. I am very obsessive. I tend to drive women away by being overbearing. So for me yeah it is very good advice. Have things in your life that do not have anything to do with women. Make women a part of your life not your entire life. I'm not saying just go MGTOW and forget about women altogether. I have no idea how to do that nor would I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:22 PM
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That's the thing. I'd rather be hungry. The disgust I would feel from eating dog shit is similar to having sex with someone I find repulsive. I have had sex with women very drunk. Woke up the next day and wanted to puke. And not from the alcohol either. I speak from experience here. I would have literally been 1000 times better off going home and masturbating. So maybe not quite "dog shit". But the idea is that you are better off eating nothing because its disgusting. Edit: oh and I've been on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:01 PM
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How would I fix that. Do you want me to repost?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:56 PM
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I know guys like that exist but they don't make any sense to me. Especially if its a good looking Chad. Why would you eat dog shit when you can afford to eat at a 5 star restaurant? Why would you eat dog shit at all? I'd rather be hungry. But I'm not saying you are wrong. There are definitely men out there that will "eat anything". I just can't relate to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:55 PM
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It's usually something like "don't put pussy on a pedestal" or "focus on yourself first". Which to me translates to having passions outside of the dating world. Let's say you are into computer programming. Be able to immerse yourself into that. During that time you could give 2 shits about what some woman is doing or thinking. You are only focused on fixing the project you are working on. It's a lot easier said then done when you are lonely. But it is good advice nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:50 PM
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I can see the appeal of some hottie step sister moving in and you having a fun sexual relationship with her. I can see how a young guy could get off on that. Fucking your actual sister is pretty god damn disgusting. I never understood how that shit caught on. But then again I dont like puke or midget porn either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 02:33 AM
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Even though I don't necessarily agree with everything you wrote. I thank you for a well thought response. Let me think about some of the things you said and I'll respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:37 PM
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https://bigthink.com/elise-bohan/women-have-a-biological-advantage-on-dating-apps Holy shit those pictures are off the chain. I'm going to have to read this. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:24 PM
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How much time does an average attractive female spend on her appearance. A) going to gym B) getting her nails, hair, wax done C) buying new clothes. trying on clothes D) doing make up E) the typical hygiene routine for a woman is much longer than a man. How many guys apply 3-4 different creams after shower to make sure they don't get forehead wrinkles etc. I think it evens out quite a bit if you look at it from that point of view. In fact I would say the Chad spends much less. He just needs to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:05 PM
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One of my best friends growing up was like the Chadliest Chad you can imagine. He was tall built like a tank. Had a very attractive face looked kind of like Will Smith. He was a degenerate video game addict :) :) :) Finding women was very easy for him. He would just go to a bar couple of times and take someone home. Fuck them and then pay little attention to them. He loved the games more than he loved them. By a humongous margin. That's not to say the average guy would do that. But women showing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:01 PM
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Yeah that makes perfect sense. People used to waste tons of time in front a TV. I remember when I was young that was always the problem. But back then you had to wait for a certain time for a certain show to be on. If your favorite show wasn't on you would channel surf and likely not find anything interesting. Nowadays there's an overload of "interesting stuff". That and you had to sit on a couch in front of a huge clunky tv that would only fit in certain places. You can fit a phone or an ipad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:52 PM
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shrug maybe. I spent like $10,000 on a mobile game that is essentially digital crack. One of those cash grab strategy games that determine the winner by who spent the most $ and not necessarily skill or strategy. So for me $60 is a fucking joke. But that doesn't mean you're wrong. Netflix is what $15 a month? Netflix can easily keep you busy for several hundred years :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:43 PM
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If a woman wants to find a partner at a bar. She goes 2-3 times. Finds a partner and stops going. If a man wants to find a partner at a bar. He has to go there all the time. Hence the sausagefest effect. The alcohol at a bar is basically an anti anxiety drug. It allows people to socialize that would otherwise find it difficult to socialize. Since the natural imperative is for men to approach women. Women have a smaller need for it to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:40 PM
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I wonder why intelligence doesn't seem to have a lot of selection power. Not directly anyway. I think it can be a nice complement to physically attractive people. But it can't make up for the lack of it. I'm guessing its because things like ass and tits are very easy to quantify visually. While intelligence is damn near impossible to quantify. What do you think? You seem to have a pretty good grasp on evolutionary science. I don't know if its through hobby reading like me or you have a professio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:33 PM
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Sure. Most artists don't even write their own lyrics. The record company does extensive market research and caters their songs to what their audience wants to hear. This is true for both male and female artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:27 PM
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In my experience the social isolation isn't necessarily tied to women. You get addicted to say Counter Strike and spend 30-40 hours a week playing the game. That causes social isolation. Even if you're "socializing" with other players. That does not create the type of social bonds our brains evolved under. We need the physical presence that is absent in that environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:24 PM
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Well said. Maybe that's why its so difficult for men to conceptualize being attracted to someone with money or status. We never had an imperative for those things to be attractive to us. I really struggle empathizing with it. The best way I can envision it is the respect I feel for my boss. But that is not a sexual urge. Maybe it is for women? I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:20 PM
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They sing about the topics that make the most $ for them. If singing about sports or politics gave them a better ROI. You would hear songs about Bernie Sanders and the super bowl. But they don't. Love songs are more profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:07 PM
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que? Isn't the standard "I'll fuck you or I won't" pretty much for 100% of the human population? Except for like hookers or some shit who have sex for $. Maybe I didn't get the message you were trying to portray. Try rewording it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:32 PM
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First of all society is 50% men. The people in power are probably 80+% men. So to say that society doesn't give shit about men completely falls apart just with those 2 pieces of information. What's really happening is that the media outlets don't have any motivation to report on this story. It doesn't benefit them to go back and say "ya know 3 years ago we were totally wrong". It doesn't benefit them to constantly run a story that does not generate ad views. Johnny Depp being an abuser..... that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:26 PM
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most guys find most women attractive Where do you get that from? I know two types of guys A) Guys with standards. They definitely don't find "most women" attractive. Far from it. B) Guys without standards. Who will dumpster dive and fuck anything. The catch is they treat all their uggo's like absolute shit. If the woman isn't in it for the sex she's literally better off completely alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:16 PM
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Maybe I'm not average then. I constantly have fatties trying to take me home. I always nope them because I'm not interested. I fucked up and got wasted enough to do it a couple of times and regretted it. They one's I did take home weren't super fat. But they were below my normal "threshold". Edit: If I had attractive women trying to take me home at the same rate I'd have 30 bastards and every STD known to mankind by now. But sadly they don't :( Pretty much never. It's only women I don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:35 PM
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I don't think 56 is impossible. It totally depends on your standards. If you are willing to dumpster dive you can do 56 very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:03 PM
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Does this sound reasonable to you. Im going to make some statements and you just tell me by letter true/false. a) every single woman no matter how old, attractive, rich, poor whatever. They all are attracted to exactly 20% of the population b) every single woman is only attracted to exactly the same 20% of the top men. No variance. Im being hyperbolic on purpose. Obviously both a and b are false. Theres variance in both. If you are only after young early 20s super model type chicks. It might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:40 AM
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Red pill exaggerates value of game and frame and all that mess. I dunno the amount of times I heard "the okcupid article that says that women are attracted to top 80% of men". Which in itself assumes only 20% of the male population is attractive to women. Completely negating things like preference, age and women's own personal self evaluation. The true number is probably much higher than 20%. Even if an average woman only finds 1/5 of men attractive. The real % of men who NO WOMEN FIND ATTRACTIV…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:35 AM
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You have to be very careful with this advice. The body fat % for ideal facial aesthetics can vary wildly. I dropped my body fat to under 10% about a year ago. I don't have a lot of lean mass. At 9% body fat I looked like I had aids. My face was super gaunt. It was not a good look. My body looked pretty ripped. But very small. The muscles were protruding the little bit I had. Overall I'm better off in the 15% body fat range. This "under 10% body fat" is only really true for specific body types. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:41 AM
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Facial symmetry is also overrated. You're better off with 2 asymmetric attractive features then perfectly symmetric bland features. I remember "the most beautiful woman in Britain according to science" was this above average looking chick. She was sort of cute but nothing special by any means. She just happened to have great proportions according to some computer model. Which probably overvalued things like "perfect ratios" and "perfect symmetry". The reality is far more nuanced then that. Hell …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:29 AM
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The red pill exaggerates the value of certain things. The black pill is also guilty of this. For example, the black pill basically says "either you're a Chad or you're a loser in the dating market". But anyone who's spent any time in society knows that this is not actually true. You don't need to have elite level attractiveness to get married have children etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:26 AM
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Lol if they refuse to date guys who look at porn they better go to an Amish village or some religious coventant or something. Otherwise they are going to be sorely dissapointed with the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 03:58 AM
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Why do you say that? I've went out at least 30 times last year. What did I miss?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:51 PM
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Someone else wasn't sure about the difference between a 3 and a 7. The best way I can describe it is that a 7 has a "looks threshold" where the personality is highly negotiable. The 3 has a "personality threshold" where the looks are highly negotiable. I'm not even sure how that would work to be honest because I'm a 7. But they would literally NOT BE ABLE TO BE SEXUALLY INTERESTED IN MOST PEOPLE unless they have certain personality traits. Even if they were gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:22 PM
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Looks threshold can be anything. An average woman who is not "ugly" would not meet my looks threshold. She has to be at least SOMEWHAT attractive. There has to be either some facial features or really good bodily features to attract me. That leaves plenty of room for imperfections. But she can't be totally bland. A 3 would evaluate personality the same way I evaluate looks. I would prefer someone who is smart and funny etc. But I'd be fine with someone who is average intelligence and not particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:53 PM
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I started to write "never" cause I'm still a very shy awkward mess around women. I did get better for a time though. I married a really hot chick who came on to me (cause when you're shy you have a hard time approaching yourself). Me and her eventually broke up but I felt more "confident" approaching chicks after that. I also took Lexapro back then. Hard to say if it helped or not. But something did click back then. I regressed since then. To some degree it's always been a struggle for me. Havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:43 PM
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Yep I actually lost a lot of weight. I was quite overweight the first 1-2 years of puberty. Women gave me no positive reinforcement when I first "entered the market". By the time I lost weight and they did I was a shy mess who couldn't put two words together without freaking out. It's pathetic... it's sad.... but it's what happened. Even if I was a Chad I would have had a hard time with women. I had some cute girls blatantly approach me and I totally bottled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:23 PM
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I have definitely seen this. To counter some claims from others that this does not happen. I actually spent a lot of time paying attention to couples for this very reason. Instead of just taking the whatever pill version as the truth. I wanted to see with my own eyes what was happening. I found that good looking women were more likely to be with "inferior" males than vice versa. Good looking guys almost always had good looking women. The contrasts I saw usually had the female as the more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:18 PM
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Could be a lot of different reasons. Now I'm not Chad...... but the social anxiety issues I have don't have anything to do with women either. When I moved to Italy as a kid I spent 1 year in school not being able to communicate with anyone because I didn't know English (I went to an English school). That fucked with my development. I went to a predominantly black school first 2 years in America where I was a wimpy little nerd who hit puberty late. The kids used to pick on me cause I was an easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:04 PM
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Ohhhhh man thats tough. I can give you a description. "Fuckable". That usually means she has sex appeal somehow. Either she has a really nice body and a so-so face (not ugly face). Or she has a cute face and a meh body. She has definite flaws. But there is enough good to still make you attracted to her. You know how guys say "just don't be fat". Thats because if you're skinny in a lot of cases guys will at least find you fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:08 AM
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In my experience there's a looks threshold. If a woman is a 6/10 or above I can fall in love with her. Maybe it would be easier with a 9/10 but the difference isn't really all that big. Anything below 6/10 it's probably not going to happen. And yes I have tried. Once you have an emotional attachment to someone. Better looking people are not necessarily a threat to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:42 AM
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I'm not a big proponent of the whole "Just be confident" crap. I actually think being physically attractive is a better predictor of sexual success than your social skills. BUT HAVING SAID THAT. Having social skills will definitely improve a person's position no matter where they are. If they are in a position where they severely lack them. Think about it this way. Picture a 10/10 Chad. Most women find him very sexually attractive. But he is fucking shy as shit. Even when women show him interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:30 PM
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In my experience, the body can definitely compensate for the face when it comes to women attracting men. To what degree is very hard to tell. It depends on a lot of different variables. Her looks match is definitely not a 4/10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:37 PM
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That's why guys date single mothers. Less competition. You are more likely to swing above your league in terms of looks with a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:21 PM
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Honestly, if you're a good looking guy then it lines up perfectly with the black pill. They don't really give a shit how damaged you are. They are just physically attracted to you. I don't know about this whole nurturing thing that everyone keeps talking about. Wouldn't women want to nurture men who are terrible with women? Who are constantly single? Why do those guys get 0 attention. They are damaged in a way too. They have terrible self esteem. But for some reason that doesn't seem to work. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:15 PM
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im tall with long arms. 30 push ups is really not a lot. im very far from what you consider "strong". I can do 30 right now and i havent done push ups in 3-4 months. and yes i do them properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 04:44 PM
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I live in a college town. It's hard to know whether the women already know the guy or if its a legit first time meeting. But to answer your question I see women going home with guys all the time. Like ALL THE TIME. It's impossible to put a number on it. Depends on the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:31 PM
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Uhhhhhhhhhh where? You're being way too vague. Are we talking on the planet? In New York City? In a college town? You're going to need to elaborate here pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:30 PM
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Theoretically we should all always see ourselves as a prize. So yes you definitely should. It may not make you any more or less attractive. But it will make you a lot healthier and less prone to anxiety. HOWEVER the problem is. It's much harder to do than people lead on. When you are self conscious it can be very difficult to dig yourself out of that hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:23 PM
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You can still have a good relationship with a woman. Even if humans are hypergamus (notice I said humans not women. All humans are hypergamus in their nature.). I think everyone realizes that any person on this planet is capable of lying and cheating. Any person on this planet is capable of falling in love and then falling out of love at the drop of a dime. Any time you get into a relationship you run the risk of being left for a "better option". Doesn't matter if you're male or female. Everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:04 PM
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There is a PPD meetup? Did I miss something. This ought to be an interesting crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 04:01 PM
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Men just have a very hard time processing this. We can't relate to it at all. We can't project on it. It doesn't make any sense to us. This is how just about any man thinks. I want to have sex with her + She wants to have sex with me = We will have sex when an opportunity occurs That is just how we are wired. Sex can be dangerous with diseases and unwanted pregnancies. It's dangerous for men just like it is for women. But we don't have an innate fear for it. It can be learned by learning about S…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:06 PM
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Rosario Dawson from Men in Black 2 Paula Patton from Deja Vu
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:40 PM
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Im 36. I actually tried to date a couple of girls I wasn't all that attracted to last year. Cause they had pretty good personalities. And it was terrible. I typically treat women well. But I treated them like shit. Mostly due to apathy. I just wasn't into it. They were better off without me as was I. I like younger women. My current girlfriend is 29. But thats more out of keeping it realistic. I'd date someone in the early 20s if I actually thought it would work out. I know what I'm saying is "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:46 PM
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You act as if I wake up every morning and calibrate who I am attracted to. It's automatic. I want who I want. 20% is a very rough estimate. For women over 40 its like 1% or even 0%. For women in the 20-25 age range it can be as high as 60%. I literally like most college chicks I see. Long as they arent fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:28 PM
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Fair enough. I guess the perfume thing is a bit of a stretch. Obviously that's not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:24 PM
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I think a cologne that makes women find you irresisitible. As outlandish as it sounds. Is more realistic than trying to force a bunch of liberated women back into sexual slavery. Especially in a society that generally doesn't want it. Genetic engineering that makes everyone physically attractive is also a more realistic option in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:13 PM
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honestly........... I don't think it was that different from today. Everyone was a lot poorer. But for the most part people got into long term relationships for the same reasons they do today. Sometimes because they genuinely like each other, sometimes for financial reasons etc. Most men weren't running around raping random women. Some men did. Just like today. They were a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:11 PM
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Sorry I didn't explain well enough. My original point is that women are given advice that says "men prefer women with good careers". A lot of women will take this advice to their detriment. They will gain a ton of weight and waste their youthful peak years seeking some degree. Now if they are doing it to "not be poor" thats great. No problem whatsoever. If you don't want to be poor that is probably the best thing you can do. But some women do it thinking it will make them more attractive to men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:22 PM
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Yes but women are given this advice. If you dont care, then you dont care. But its still a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:31 PM
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Maybe... Maybe not. I dont know. Im one of those guys whos only attracted to a small % of women. I have seen male friends dumpster dive horribly. But they do it for financial gain or because they just want to be worshipped. Its no different from a female seeking a sugar daddy. Not sure you could qualify that as genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:30 PM
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Why though? Why can't you find someone who you're sexually attracted to who reciprocates it. I don't believe in the whole "only the top 20% of men" thing. I think its far more nuanced then that. Some women are only attracted to "top 5%" of men some are fine with "top 50%". Also even if it was "top 20%" what one woman considers a top 20% man is never going to be the same as another. Isn't the real trick to find someone who you share a mutual physical attraction to? Who you have ENOUGH interperson…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:21 PM
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In my experience the men who are preoccupied with how much women earn are leeches. They are usually the one's who dumpster dive for uglier women who proceed to take care of them financially. All the while treating the women like dogshit. Most "good men" rely on themselves to support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:09 PM
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Becoming Chad is only possible for some people. You have to have certain physical and mental predespositions to begin with. "You're not into her either". I guess it depends on how you define "into her". If I want to fuck her because she is attractive to me. That to me is I am into her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:02 PM
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Hard to say am not a Doctor or a Lawyer. 2 things come to mind 1) Doctors and lawyers are more likely to comingle with other Doctors and Lawyers. If you are a doctor you are more likely to be around female doctors all the time not female waitresses. 2) Women who make a lot of $ usually have a hard time dating guys that make less then them. My sister makes $120,000 a year and for the longest she couldn't see herself with someone who made less than $100,000. I'm sure that plays a role too. I'm upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:30 PM
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Yes and in that regard it's obviously a good idea. But I have seen videos that are aimed at women that offer "dating advice". Saying shit like "good men will want a woman who has good earning potential". Maybe some men do. But in my experience most of us don't really give a shit. We are far more interested in your breasts/ass. It's probably wrong to say but its also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:22 PM
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I'm a man so I have to post here. That men care about your career and your earning potential. Most men don't. And the one's that do are probably broke and want to use you. You don't want them. Having a career and making $ is great for many other reasons. Hell it can even help you in the dating world indirectly. By facilitating opportunities. Be it through travel or just having more time to meet people. But it won't make you more attractive as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:16 PM
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Ok so my options are 1) Date someone with a good personality who you are not sexually attracted to. I already discussed why that has never worked for me. 2) Date someone who is sexually attractive but is only into it for the $. I've had a couple of those as well. Those relationships suck for a different reason. You end up being on the other end of "your SO is just not that into you". Which again is shitty for both parties. But at least the sugar baby is getting some free gifts out of it. 3) Don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:13 PM
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I think you have to define "most women" very accurately. Before you can have a real discussion on this topic. Most men are not physically attractive Most women are not physically attractive ALL WOMEN (and all men) want to marry and have children with the hottest most stable partner they can find. Thats everyone. Fuck the hypergamy bullshit. EVERYONE wants a hot partner. How much they are willing to compromise depends to a large part on their options. Which is why women appear to be more hypergam…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:07 PM
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What you don't realize is that the alternative isn't any good either. So you want me to date women who are not sexually attractive to me but have a "good personality".......... I actually tried that this is what it looks like............ You see when I like a woman AKA I am sexually attracted to her. I want to spend time with her. I enjoy her presence. She doesn't need to do much to keep me entertained. When I don't find her attractive? I can't wait for her to leave. Being with her is a chore. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 02:38 PM
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In my experience both men and women parrot the lie. It's not always women. For whatever reason the ideals of dating are far more pressed upon than the reality of dating. Ideally people would care about personality more than looks. But that's not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:31 PM
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I would say its the "game" lie that really got to me. There is this myth that an ugly dude can get an endless supply of attractive women wanting him. If he just learns this "mythical" game. Whenever a Chad or Chad Light get with a sexy chick. Nobody ever says "she likes him cause he's good looking" no its always his "game" that gets credited. Unfortunately I used to believe all that stuff. I wish I didn't. I wasted so many years of my life on that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:28 PM
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Because most people realize that things labeled as absolutes actually exist in a world where nothing is "black or white". Relationships are way more complex than the red pill or the black pill claim for them to be. Some of those ideas are decent at describing general patterns. But anytime you try to get granular with a single person you will find a shitload of flaws. Also relationships are not "manipulation on both sides". It's like saying that children are using their parents for nurture and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:59 PM
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Hard to know what's going on without actually seeing it. Maybe your friends are always picking up the good looking guys who have many other options. Maybe it's just shit luck or confirmation bias of some sort. Most guys want attractive chicks. When they are chill and low maintenance that's a plus. At least in my opinion. But they don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:17 PM
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You have to understand women are not "choosing" to be this way. They didn't get to pick out their gene's before they were born any more than you did. They are wired to seek high quality partners. Men are too but I don't want to debate the whole female hypergamy thing. If there are high value partners available at least BASED ON THEIR PERCEPTION. That is who they will aim for. It's human nature. Your beef isn't with women. It's with the Flying Spaghetti Monster for making us this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:00 PM
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Most men need it to be consensual. It's an empathy thing. We don't want to hurt others. You have to have some sort of trauma or mental disorder in order to rape women guilt free. Or be very incapacitated by drugs or alcohol. Even then most men won't do it. I don't really think its in mens nature to rape. Most of those vikings were seasoned warriors who murdered other men for a living. You lose a lot of empathy this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:44 PM
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Like I said you want to turn back the clock 100+ years. It's not going to happen. I don't know if you're old enough to remember about Napster. It was the first technology that let people download unlimited music for free. Before only geeks knew how to do it. The music industry fought hard against it. Eventually taking it down and even dishing out some lawsuits against normal people who downloaded music for free. But it didn't matter. The genie was out of the bag. You can't go back once technolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:24 PM
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It's a vicious cycle in my opinion. Man needs affection, sex and companionship. Man is unable to get it (for whatever reason, ugly, shy, broke, whatever). Man feels like he is not good enough to get it. Man places his self value in the most important thing he can't get. (chances are if you're starving or running from a mob you won't be worrying about getting laid). Man needs affection, sex and companionship EVEN MORE. it goes on and on. It's easy to say "just find other things to validate you". …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:58 PM
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The whole legalizing prostitution thing is a complicated debate. There are good points on both sides of the argument. But in itself it wont solve the crux of the issue. Most incels dont actually miss sex. They miss general affection and companionship. Something hookers arent particularly good at replacing. Regarding teaching the truth. When I was growing up I was taught that Marijuana was this devils poison. Most of us saw right through the idealistic bullshit. As time went on the rhetoric has s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:06 PM
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Yes but asking women to behave in a way that nature did not intend them to is not an actual solution. That's just like asking Chad to stick to one girl when he has 100s of sexy girls wanting to hook up with him. You can try to rationalize it any way you want with him. He's just not going to listen. Why would he? That's what I mean what is an actual solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:29 PM
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What exactly is your solution? All I see is rambling about how unfair it is that women can attract mates easier then men. Do you want to go back to 99% poverty and 30 year life spans? Back when being the 1% meant you were the only man who could guarantee your kids would survive the next generation. Everyone else was just flailing in the wind hoping they wouldn't catch a cold that will kill them and their whole family. With no access to medical supplies, constant starvation etc etc. You get the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:09 PM
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Yeah but he's using the one criteria that men define as "attraction". Which to us is analogous with physical attraction. Also I wouldn't say "one glance". We can rule out a large % at one glance. And we can green light a %. But sometimes we have to check a woman out. She might have an ok face but a really nice ass for example. That would green light her for sex which she could then use to form a relationship if she knows what she's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:02 PM
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Its not. Beauty is one of the most if not the most valuable commodities in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:22 PM
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It depends. Im not good looking by any stretch. Ive had women hit on me in the clubs. Make it obvious they want to sleep with me. With basically no effort from me other than being there. Problem is they were not even remotely attractive. So it definitely happens. Im guessing the better looking dudes have higher quality chicks chasing them this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:55 AM
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Am I the only one who always assumed normie means someone who is not ugly or particularly attractive. I never equated it to anything other than looks. A normie guy may be attractive to some women but not most. All this other mumbo jumbo doesnt even compute when I hear the word normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:13 AM
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In itself confidence will not make a woman any more or less attractive. Arrogant women can be a bit if a turn off but nothing serious. Hardly worth mentioning. But confident women do get what they want more often. Not because it makes them more attractive. It makes them more likely to go out of their way to either approach a guy she likes or send obvious signs of interest. Because they are not as worried about rejection or generally anxious about the situation. So it does help but not directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:52 AM
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pussy = cheap quality pussy = very expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:30 PM
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That's incredible. I've always thought Brazilian women are the best looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:20 AM
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I'm also in the south. I wasn't saying that it's at the same rate. Men definitely get rejected a lot more often. They also approach more often. So not only is it less % conversion ratio but more volume. I was pointing out that women DO get rejected. And it happens all the time. You initially made it sound like this is something they don't experience either at all or hardly ever. That's the part I was disagreeing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:07 PM
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Women get rejected all the time man. Maybe not as often as men. But you initially made it sound like most women have never been rejected. Even good looking women get rejected from time to time. If they try to date some dude already taken by another good looking chick for example. You know how I know this? I've rejected plenty of women in my life. I'm not that great looking either. They usually weren't all that as well. Men can go hit on 10 different women and get rejected 10 times. Shrug it off …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:52 PM
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WomenGood looking women, in general, don’t face rejection, so they rarely learn to deal with it. A man’s constant rejection year after year after year can be normalized, or give clues to what’s wrong with him eventually. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:31 PM
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I think the issue with statements like these is it assumes that there is a one size fit all. As in "all women prefer slim swimmer types" or vice versa. In reality it's not like that. Some women prefer swimmer types. Some prefer the muscular type. There are even a very small minority that prefer the slightly chubby type. But those are very rare and banking on finding one of those is a turrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:54 PM
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I think people underestimate how many simply don't know how to lose weight. Try googling "how to lose weight". See how much absolute nonsense you get as a result. If you know the magic formula "Calories out > Calories in" all those articles are obvious bullshit. But if you don't you can be let down a rabbit hole. After a while when everything you try fails because you're being given shitty information to begin with. You just say the "the hell with this shit I'd rather just eat". I was lucky beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:51 PM
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It goes "show me a hot chick and I'll show you a dude who's tired of fucking her". At least that's how I heard it told many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:57 PM
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Wasn't my experience at all. Losing weight has almost always correlated with increased interest from the opposite sex. Even going from "skinny fat" to "slim" made a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:17 PM
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Read up on "Narcissistic abuse cycle". What you're doing sounds a lot like it. They don't always hurt people intentionally. It's just in their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:40 PM
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Because back then guys would go to war and spend years and years murdering people for a living. War desensitizes you to empathy. They aren't what we would consider "healthy" when it comes to their mindset. I'm not saying its a good thing. I'm saying I understand how widespread rape could happen under those circumstances. I brought that up because you can't compare normal men to men in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:26 PM
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I guess me and you have different definitions. At what point do you draw the line? Why is a guy who can have sex with another guy an incel? It has to be someone you find attractive right? My definition is "Can't find a willing partner who is attractive to them". Which obviously makes it far more encompassing. I just don't see how knowing that an 80 year old woman would have sex with you is any consolation to a man who never has sex. It gets murky when you start to analyze whether their standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:32 PM
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I really hate this argument. Most incels could severely dumpster dive or go walk into a nursing home. And have a ton of sex. They don't because that would require them to be sexually attracted to PEOPLE THEY ARE NOT SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO. It's almost like telling them to go to a gay bar and hook up with another dude. Femcels are not having sex because nobody they are physically attracted to is interested in having sex with them. They can't control the attraction switch anymore than men can. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:18 PM
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That's me. I have socialized a lot in the past year. But I have done it specifically because I realized that part of the reason I was single was because I was NEVER AROUND WOMEN. If it wasn't for that you couldn't drag me out of the house to do any of those social things. I just don't find them stimulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:12 PM
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"Most men don't get laid"??? "Intense frustration and delirium"??? Where are you getting this from? No most men wouldn't resort to that. Mainly due to this thing called empathy. It's one thing for a battle hardened soldier who just spent watching his comrades get slaughtered by this other tribe to rape the other tribes women. It's another thing for a stable man who grew up in a modern society to have a lack of empathy at a level to rape women without feeling any remorse or guilt. That takes a so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:27 PM
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I think the relationship is indirect. If you become a drug addicted drunkard who is chronically on the run from the law. Yeah perhaps if you are physically attractive you might still be able to pull in a girl here and there. But when it comes to having realistic long term relationships with stable women it's going to be a huge detriment. In most cases you won't be able to have a "healthy relationship" under those circumstances. That's what they really mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:21 PM
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If everything else is good I don't think I would care all that much. It would be annoying from time to time but definitely not a deal breaker. Just seems like a very low priority item compared to some other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:46 PM
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Talk about a polarizing statement. Good job :) Reality is usually not this black and white but this is how I see it. You have 2 different bars 1) Where a bunch of ugly guys hang out. If you go there you'll be the best looking dude. But only cause everyone else is worse. 2) Where a bunch of good looking guys hang out. Both clubs have their problems. Club #1 will have much lower quality women. But any women worth a shit will pay attention to you. Club #2 will have a bunch of good looking chicks wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:20 PM
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What you're saying is both depressing and accurate based on my experience. I have tried to "date down" before. It just doesn't work. The relationship feels like a chore. I don't get anything out of it. That's why when people say "female hypergamy" I always scoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 01:59 PM
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I don't get enough credit for not eating 5,000 calories worth of cake, ice cream and other tasty shit every day. After all my brain is hard wired to enjoy those things. My brain is also hard wired to be a lazy sloth. This is because before food was widely available it was smart to conserve energy. There are many things our brains are hard wired to do that people are not going to give you any credit for resisting. Over eating, being lazy and cheating on your significant other all have consequence…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 08:05 PM
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Plastic surgery is a very slippery slope. Think about all the monsters you've seen that spent millions in some cases. There are good plastic surgeons. But most of them are just scam artists. The likelyhood of you looking WORSE after spending a ton of money is substantially better than you reaching that 10% you're after. There is a definitely ceiling when it comes to "natural" gym maxing and looks maxing. There is a ceiling with surgery too. I used to frequent a lot of Miami strip clubs. The good…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure early 20s chicks would have no problem dating an 18 year old dude. Yeah sure women prefer slightly older men. But that doesn't mean they refuse to date anyone their age or slightly younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:54 PM
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The only real thing they can do is invest heavily into studying the science behind attraction. Currently they dont really focus on it. And teach people the truth instead of shit like "looks dint matter just be confident bro". I don't know how many of you have seen the movie Gattaca. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca Thats another solution make everyone physically attractive. But the technology for that is still at least 50 years away. Nature has never and will never be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:42 PM
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My only beef with PUA is the coaches that claim that looks are of secondary importance. The rest of it Im fine with. In psychology there is a thing called "immersion therapy". That is a very useful technique for dealing with phobias and anxiety. Many guys can get over approaching women by simply doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:03 PM
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I can only post here since its for women only but...... Anyone who's ever gained or lost a lot of weight. Will quickly tell you it matters. Cause they've seen it first hand. Anyone who's gotten older. Male or female. Will also tell you the same thing. It matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:21 PM
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Sure go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:14 PM
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ok ok ok So here's the exact playbook I have used unsuccessfully many times. And the few times I succeeded I wished I didn't. Step #1 Get drunk. Get so drunk you have very little to no inhibition. Your biggest enemy is anxiety. Use a very safe and totally not bad for you with no side effects medicine to get rid of that pesky anxiety. Step #2 Go to location where your target is located. Preferably a bar or at least a location where it is socially accepted to be drunk Step #3 Talk to him. Make it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:52 PM
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Never heard of him. I'm at work. Anyone care to quickly summarize what his main points were.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:52 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm thats a tough question. There are certain things that I really hate about myself. Some things I really like. Most of the things I like deal with my personality. Most of the things I hate deal with my physical appearance. Since I am lookist to the nth degree....... Then again I'm not THAT PICKY. Now if I was a woman and I had the same looks standards. I probably wouldn't think "OMG he's so hot" when I look at myself. But I wouldn't necessarily get completely turned off either.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:38 PM
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I'm male. If you took the whole female population (all ages) then you would likely end up with 95% of women being "sexual non entities". Anyone under the age of 18 or over the age of 40 doesn't even register.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:21 PM
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Yeah you're totally right. Gild worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:25 PM
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Also your face doesn't change all that much. So if he had a good looking face at #1. He still has a good looking face at #2. But now he has a body to go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:09 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm Ok so let's say I'm on a diet. And I get used to eating some pop tart which I THINK has 200 calories. It tastes good I like it. And at 200 calories it works well with my diet. Then I come to find out its actually 1500 calories. I no longer wish to eat it. BUT I STILL THINK IT TASTES GOOD. The same can occur when I'm into a woman. I can find out she has herpes or some other disqualifier. I still WANT TO fuck her. But I know not to. And I probably won't . That's why I say its a subco…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:07 PM
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Very very interesting. Some of the things you've said I have absolutely never considered. I think the "how we feel about ourselves" applies to men as well. The getting invaded part is totally foreign to me lol. Also the bit about your relationship with your genitals is something I have literally never heard put in such a way. Thank you for taking the time to write this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:56 PM
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Very interesting insight. When you say 5% of men do you mean ALL MEN or men in your age range. For example if you were to say "ALL WOMEN" I probably too only find about 5% of them attractive. But if you give me a sample of say a college graduation party. The number might be as high as 50%. Likewise if you take me to a place where most women are 40+ it might be 0%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:55 PM
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I suppose it depends on the semantics. I will frequently be sexually suggestive towards women in a playful manner. Knowing 100% I would never actually take it there with them. Just for shits and giggles. If I do it, I imagine women do it a hell of a lot more. Guys probably quite often confuse that for real interest. Easy to confuse since real interest often manifests itself in a similar fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:51 PM
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I dunno. There's plenty of chicks that will flirt with a guy and mean absolutely nothing by it. Hell even I flirt with women I don't find attractive. Just for kicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:45 PM
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High value men is just a catch all term for men who a lot of women want to sleep with. It can be because they are attractive, have a lot of money whatever. Doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:50 AM
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I disagree. Unless I'm shit faced if you lock me in a room with an ugly chick. We might get into a conversation about something. But I'm not touching her nasty sex organs. Edit: honestly even when I'm super drunk I have standards. If she's legit ugly I won't even fuck her then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:45 AM
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It may be a part of the issue. But only a small part. The problem with these one size fits all solutions is that often times fixing them won't actually do anything. I'll give you a personal example. I was a hermit for many years. Pretty did nothing besides work. Last year I decided enough is enough and starting going out.... all the time. And not just partying. I joined all sorts of clubs. Kickboxing, Bachata, Salsa, Kickball, Jui Jitsu, Regular Gym. Went to all sorts of parties and regular soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:01 PM
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1) Be good looking (the most important. Otherwise your standards have to drop past the "it aint even worth it" point) 2) Have enough $ to take a year off work 3) Have enough $ to go out partying and socializing all the time 4) Spend many hours on many different dating apps 100 is only a different girl 1/3 of the year. If you're good looking and spend the majority of your time looking with the sole intent of 1 night standing everyone. 100 is doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:20 PM
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First of all this thread is so much better than the usual polarizing and unyielding war. Its a breath of fresh air. 1) Im very submissive towards women when I am really into them. And as long as they are remotely pretty its easy for me to be into them. This turns them off even if they are initially interested. At least 2 of them have outright told me that I am way too easy and that made them lose interest in me. 2) I dont trust people I am in a relationship with. Mainly because I know if it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:52 AM
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You ever heard of the coolidge effect? It's been studied thoroughly. Exactly what you describe BUT with one caveat. It happens to males not females. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect And here's a video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQuppzt1yEc You have to admit it sounds EXACTLY like what you're describing. But with men not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:17 AM
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I disagree. I think both sexes compete and both sexes select. It just looks different. My current girlfriend.... holy fucking shit she spends more time doing her hair, trying on different outfits, pedicure, manicure, all sorts of make up etc etc etc. She claims its because "I feel good when I look good". But in reality its wired into her to compete with other females. They all do that. Same as men who compete with other men on the playground with a soccer ball. Yeah we like being good at a sport…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:47 AM
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He was 18. Eightteen. EIGHTEEEEEEEEN. Jesus christ the dumb shit me and my male buddies did when we were 18. If you gave us the winning lotto we probably would waste it on a bunch of nonsense. Hot girls, gambling, drugs, toys you name it. You're giving 18 year old men way too much credit in the maturity department.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:44 PM
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Honestly it seems sort of common sense. If you put men in a position where we were forced to marry some land whale because our parents figured it was what was best for us. It would make us miserable. Then if we were forced to do some piece of shit job we hate and not allowed to pursue any career we want. It would also make us miserable. I'm not sure why you think women are any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:42 PM
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The one's who are forced to marry men they are not interested in? Not allowed to make their own $? I guess the source is the feminist movement. If the women were so happy with their position. Why would they start a whole social revolution to make it go away. I'm not saying feminism is perfect. Everything in society is a delicate balance. Feminism obviously upset that to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:35 PM
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The way I see it. It works like this. If the chick is a gold digger. You're inviting her to use you. HOWEVER if the chick is kind of into you. Paying for her shit is going to be very pleasant for her. Especially if she was raised with that moral fabric. So it's a give and take. Are you betting on most women being users or most women being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:32 PM
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Most men are sexually unattractive to most women What do you base that on? I'm no Chad. Not even close. Not even a high tier normie. And I still have women into me all the time. When I was younger some of them were pretty hot. Not so much anymore sadly. But you didn't say "attractive women" you said "most women".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:26 PM
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This "men should stop paying for dates" reminds me of the female version "we should make men wait so we don't get pumped and dumped". You're protecting yourself from women who will use you for resources. The issue with both is that you are focusing on loss aversion. The woman who makes a good potential partner wait can lose that partner if he decides that "she probably doesn't like me cause she won't fuck me". Likewise the man who is too worried about gold diggers could potentially miss out on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:19 PM
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All humans can be dishonest. Some are more pathological than others. Some feel less guilty about it. Some don't feel any guilt at all. Anyone who has spent any amount of time in the "dating game" has probably been lied to at one point or another. It's part of the game. Doesn't mean you should be a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:09 PM
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Problem is people don't always understand their emotions and motivations. I've told women that I liked them before. Even loved them. Then in retrospect realized I was just trying to get poonani. It wasn't conscious I did not intend to mislead them. What he was asking was a lot more deliberate. "I know I don't want to wife them. But I will pretend like I do because I want to get laid".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:07 PM
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He was asking if it was ok to pretend like he wants a relationship to get sex. Which is basically manipulating. It's not right for men to manipulate women and its not right for women to manipulate men. Nobody wants to be made a fool of. Nobody wants to have an emotional investment for make belief bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:02 PM
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If you're dishonest about it yeah I'd say thats pretty immoral. People commit suicide over heart break all the time. Do you really want to be responsible for something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:42 PM
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I dunno. There are still many societies in this world where women are treated as property. They have very little or no say so as to who they will get to spend their lives with. They don't have the option to make their own $. You get the idea. I would say that perhaps women today have more "pressure". But the overall quality of life and opportunities are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:27 PM
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1) I'm not going to argue that a 5/10 woman can get laid a hell of a lot easier then a 5/10 man. But the looksmatch hypothesis which by the way has a scientific foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matching_hypothesis deals with LTR not hook ups. Both women and men get into relationships with people who are less attractive then them. Usually for different reasons. Men probably want easy access to poonani while women want to get taken care of. At the end of the day the better looking part wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:33 PM
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Fair enough I probably should have used overrated or something like that. Irrelevant is a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:02 PM
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I'm 6 foot tall. I'm just speaking from what I've observed. I see tall guys with good looking women. I see not so tall guys with good looking women. Those guys usually have attractive faces. That seems to matter a whole lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:50 PM
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I don't think that's what they mean. To me a looksmatched couple is where neither side is obviously out of each others league. A woman can be slightly better looking than the man and vice versa. With them still being looksmatched. They only need to be in the ball park. If you see a fat land whale with a chad. THATS NOT A LOOKS MATCH. But honestly. What's the last time you saw that? I don't think I ever have. Height is rather irrelevant. If the guy has a nice looking face and physique he can be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:41 PM
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Honestly that world is sort of foreign to me. So I can't really speak on what those guys are thinking. I've known quite a few Christians who only pretended to wait. But that doesn't mean they are all like that. I'm an atheist myself so that further muddies the waters since I don't even believe in the efficacy of the whole thing. That's a whole other topic though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:52 PM
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Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Sex can greatly strengthen a healthy relationship. But if the relationship sucks having sex is probably not going to fix it. Unless the lack of sex is the catalyst for the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:47 PM
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You're trying to rationalize it. I'm not talking about conscious thought here. A woman may have 100% legit reasons for not wanting to have sex. It's irrelevant. We perceive it as disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:42 PM
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The best way I can describe it is..... You have to separate the physical element from the emotional element. Men can have sex for the physical element alone. We don't need to have any emotions to a person to be sexually attracted to them. That doesn't mean we don't enjoy it more when we are emotionally invested. But we don't need to be. My guess is that some men are like that and some are not. Same with women. It's just the ratios are much higher for women who need the emotional attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:40 PM
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It's a gauge. I'm not saying its a good gauge or an accurate one. A hooker will have sex with you. Doesn't mean she likes you. A hooker will equally tell you that she is so in love with you. So will a gold digger. Asking a person directly will often get a dishonest answer. You wanted to know how men think. This is how we think. I want to fuck her = I will fuck her if the opportunity presents itself We can't make sense of I want to fuck him = But I will not fuck him It doesn't add up Usually I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:37 PM
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Sex is a gauge of whether the chick is into you or not. If a girl makes a guy wait 3 months. Theres a good chance he will bounce because he will assume she doesnt like him. Even if she gives him plenty of indication that she does. Thats just how it works. Its not wrong or right. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:32 PM
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Honestly that wouldn't be so bad. A lot of women are into me that I'm just not into. And it's not by choice either. They just don't do it for me. I'd be a lot happier if I had your standards :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:24 PM
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Men turn pussy down all the time. Because its not attractive. Not sure what planet he lives on lol. SOME MEN don't turn anything down. The vast majority of those are not what you would consider high quality male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:15 PM
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I don't see a guy who can consistently get attractive women giving a shit about any of the RP stuff. I don't need a pill philosophy on how to tie my shoelaces or walk upright. I suppose some people obsess about this shit out of sheer curiosity. I would reckon most do it because they want to improve their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:59 PM
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I have a hard time understanding women when they say "Looks aren't the only thing that matters". But more so when they say "lack of sexual appeal through physical qualities can be overcome by other qualities" that one is like speaking greek to me. I AM EQUALLY dumbfounded by men who seem to genuinely enjoy having sex with unattractive women. I can't tell if they just have much lower attraction triggers than me. AKA their "looks threshold" is way below mine. Or its the same as mine and they are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:47 PM
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I think what they mean is that guys need to be 1) Socially capable 2) Charming 3) Funny 4) Confident 5) Talented 6) Interesting 7) Outgoing 8) Have a good job etc etc etc where's women pretty much just have to be good looking. Also I think they are referring to the man having to make the approach. Women approach sometimes. But more often then not if you can't read IOI's or are too scared to act on them. As a man you'll end up with very few options (which usually won't be good options). That woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:40 AM
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Yes. It definitely is. When I broke up with my ex-wife I wallowed in misery for like a year. Then I met someone else and completely forgot about her. I felt like I had a new lease on life. I guess everyone processes things differently. But for me it's about the only way to get over an ex. If I don't find someone else I just miss them non stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:52 PM
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Yeah sorry didn't see the for Women tag. Thought it was fair game for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:45 PM
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I dunno maybe I'm gay or something but the whole threesome thing never particularly appealed to me (referring to the other posts in this thread) Honestly my fantasy is a woman who enjoys fucking ME as much as I enjoy fucking HER. Has a strong emotional bond to me the same way I do. So basically making love with the purest definition of the word. Not just fucking. Finding some attractive chick to bust a nutt on. I mean it's not easy but its a lot easier then finding someone who enjoys it as much …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:43 PM
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Oh yeah I live in a small 200,000 town with mostly college girls (Gainesville Florida). I'd probably notice a lot more if I lived in New York or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:33 PM
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I guess people are just different. I'm 36 and the % of women over 40 that I find attractive is very small. If she's 40 and I find her attractive she was probably a 10/10 when she was younger. On the flip side I find like 60+% of women in the early 20s age range attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:02 PM
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I disagree that 18-24 males have the smallest range. Aging makes both men and women uglier. Trust me I wish it wasn't true but it is. Most 18 year old guys could actually get with 32 year old former Stacies a lot easier than 18 year old current Stacies. I think the rise of inceldom has more to do with lifestyle choices. It's a lot more secluded and sedetery. I'm not saying that incels didn't exist before. There has always been a % of men who are jus too ugly to date no matter what they do. But n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:27 AM
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I'd personally pick the hottest one initially. After a while I'd go home with one that I click with the most (but still attractive). Which is basically what women do. I don't need to fuck more than one at a time. One is plenty for me. If it wasn't for condoms I'd probably have a couple of bastards by now. It wasn't just Chad's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:20 PM
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Sounds a bit like narcissistic abuse. I watched a video once from "Alpha Man Strategies" where he explained how to get a woman obsessed with you. What he said to do was describing narcissistic abuse to a tee. You start fucking with their self esteem. Telling them their fat or ugly or whatever. You start out slow and ramp it up gradually. To the point where they feel like you're the only one who would ever want them. Problem with all this is you have to be at least somewhat of a psychopath to pul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:16 PM
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Well this is somewhat off topic BUT. Let's talk about freeing slaves and giving women rights. It wasn't necessarily done because it's fair. It was done because it benefits everyone. Think about it this way. Some black kid goes to med school and becomes a doctor. Throughout his career he saves... lets say 1000 lives and makes 5000 other lives better. Sure he makes good money and his family directly benefits from his good income. But all of society benefits from him developing that skill. The same…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:43 PM
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If you dropped your standards enough you'd only need to go out twice a week or so. I agree you'd have to spend a lot of time doing it. But we're not talking about going out of your way to get lucky and hook up with someone attractive here. We're talking about grabbing what you can get. It's only realistic for people who are capable of stomaching it. I personally am better off using my hand and could never even imagine going that route. I was just trying to point out that while 54 may seem like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:40 PM
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So I was looking into buying a $10,000,000 Yacht for my upcoming trip to Bali. And can you believe this shit. They don't have it in my favorite color. They have every other color but the one I want. This is madness. What a cruel world we live in. All I want is my yacht to have that perfect beige tint that I love. I'm just going to go drown my sorrows in a bottle this is too much for me to handle. (in other words most people aren't going to relate to rich people's problems)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:44 PM
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It's definitely about validation to some degree. I want to get into computer programming. But in order to get a programming job without a computer science degree you need experience. But in order to get experience you need to get hired first. Unless you're willing to work for free for a while you're never going to get the ball rolling. I agree that the same principle applies to dating to a certain degree. You need a level of comfort in order to function. That comfort comes from actually accompli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:37 PM
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I have in the past. It has very little long term benefits. I'd have to disagree. I don't see any parallel between paying for hookers and being able to pick up women. Mainly because guys from all walks of life do it. Usually with a heavier emphasis on those that fail in the usual dating market but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:48 PM
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As soon as all that business is dropped, it's actually extremely easy for a man to get laid. Shockingly easy, in a lot of cases. I mean, he could use a lot of strategies, but the inner game is nothing but dropping all the need to have an identity validated in some sense. This is why a lot of casual sex is with people you don't even like. They don't need to be if it's really just sex. So let me get this straight. You are suggesting guys sleep with women they don't find attractive? Cause yeah its …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:38 PM
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There's some gazelle on some plain somewhere getting ripped apart alive by lions. Or some Zebra getting suffocated and disemboweled by a bunch of crocodiles. The lions and the crocodiles don't do this out of spite. This is how they survive. The world is cruel and the strongest survive. "Fair" and "unfair" are concepts we came up with. The real world has never been fair and likely never will be. You make a subtle point about guys only caring about women's looks. Just like the crocodile and the li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:18 PM
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That's a common misconception. I don't really like the term Alpha. Most guys who can get endless "Stacy pussy" are at least moderately attractive. If you're not it's not going to work no matter what you do. You can only looksmax so much. I basically dedicated a whole year to socializing and exercising. Made a lot of progress. But I sure as fuck am nowhere near the level of getting "Stacy pussy" all the time and am in no delusion to think I will ever get there either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:14 PM
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There's a looks threshold for everyone. Male and female alike. At a certain point you'd rather be alone. Because a bunch of awful options is the same as no options. It's not something you actively control either. You don't decide where your threshold is. You don't decide who you find sexually appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:37 PM
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54 is not really that much. I'm 36 years old. Let's say I started when I was 18. That's just 3 per year. If you lower standards you can easily do 3-4 a month. If you're good looking or have something else women want you might not even need to lower your standards all that much. My n count is probably somewhere in the mid 20s. And I spent more than half of my 18 years of active sex life as a fat hermit who didn't even try to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:33 PM
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The other version of this is "You'll find love when you're not looking" or "do things you enjoy not to look for pussy". All great advice. You know what me not looking for love and doing things I enjoy looks like? I gained a ton of weight. Played video games all the time. Basically I was either working, sleeping or playing video games. Because after all this is something I enjoy. I had no social circle and frankly wasn't particularly interested in it. I would probably be a total hermit if I didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:19 PM
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There's some other guy in the picture who she has an emotional attachment to. Maybe a current boyfriend. Maybe someone she's been chasing for years. Could be anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:09 PM
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It really depends. First of all if a chick isn't attractive enough without all that shit. It is very unlikely that it will "bring her over the threshold". In most cases it's just a terrible waste of money that adds very little. Secondly the big question is "can I tell". Meaning if she gets her tits done and they are those obvious balloon looking things. It will make her looks much worse. I think those things are disgusting. If it's done well and you can't tell the difference..... then you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:08 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley Maybe I just have a higher sensitivity to the Uncanny Valley. She definitely brings out the whole "is she even human" subconscious element in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:47 PM
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Maybe it's the obvious plastic surgery combined with age but I've always thought Melania isn't attractive at all. She looks like a walking photoshop. Not in a good way either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:42 PM
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I was literally saying "I would totally fuck you back home" as I swiped left on some chicks (they liked me and I didn't want to match with them). My standards increased proportionally to what I had available. The chicks I was going out on dates with were WAYYYY better looking than me in some cases. What I'm trying to say is women act this way because men are hungry. It's not some biological drive to find a higher value male. We all would choose a higher value partner if we could. The difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:52 AM
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Ok but why do men want good looking women in the first place? You have to agree that given the choice between an average looking chick and a hot chick a guy will take the hot chick provided the other variables are the same. Because physically attractive traits are a display of superior genetics. Right? Well isn't that exactly what women are doing by selecting better looking, richer, higher status men? Selecting for better genetics. The criteria is slightly different. But the behavior is the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:46 AM
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If the only thing you care about is looks. Then being hypergamus is just about dating someone better looking than you. That's how I see it. Which is why I say rich and famous men ARE hypergamus. I'll give you a personal example. I went to Kiev for 2 weeks. I went from having like 4 Tinder matches in 6 months to 60 in a matter of 5 days. Yeah its becaues I'm American whatever. But the point is my standards rose tremendously in a very short time. Did I suddenly become hypergamus? Or was I simply r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:33 AM
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I don't really think thats how it works. I strongly disagree that a man who has better looking options will be "satisfied" with someone way below his standards. He might get drunk and hook up with someone like that. But that's not the same thing. Men have a drive to find the best possible long term partner to have children with. Same as women we just have different criteria for sex. Yeah a man is far more likely to dumpster dive under pressure or under the influence of alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:28 AM
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That's an interesting way of putting it. So what would make DiCaprio hypergamus in your estimation? Because honestly I could give a rats ass how much $ or status a woman has. A 10/10 is a dime whether she's broke or a millionaire. The only difference is a millionaire is likely to be totally unapproachable. But they have the same intrinsic value in terms of their capacity to excite me sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:13 AM
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What makes you think men don't question that? There's a reason why men with options often don't want to settle down. They are also looking for the best possible option. The difference isn't psychology it's opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:56 AM
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That's not true at all. Take any super rich guy. Or super famous. They are always batting way above their league in terms of looks. Because they can. A better argument is "women have more opportunity to be hypergamus". That much is true. But the whole "women are hypergamus and men are not" is not. edit: I misspoke. Some rich and famous men don't do that. But enough of them do. T.I. and Jeff Bezos are notable examples that do not follow my original implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:47 AM
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I'm more curious when people will stop saying "female hypergamy" and start calling it what it really is. Human hypergamy. All men and women are looking for the best possible partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:40 AM
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The point is the talent is a bigger factor than looks. In dating looks is the talent. I'm not disagreeing that looks can help you in the workplace. Obviously they can. But talent matters more in a lot of applications.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:31 AM
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There's a reason why so many sales people at big conferences are attractive women who barely know anything about the product. It works in many cases. But unlike dating for a salesman their attraction level is not the main currency. If I'm looking to buy a car I may consider a car that some hottie is selling just because I like talking to her. But at the end of the day my goal is to get the best car possible. So yes it definitely helps. I guess what I'm really trying to say is I don't want people…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 09:53 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmm yes and no. Depends on the job. If I hire some ugly salesman who brings me $10,000 a week. I'm not going to give a rats ass what he looks like. It's highly circumstantial. You also have to remember that the people making the decisions aren't always lookers themselves. In my opinion looks can help you get a job but if you suck at it at some point it won't save you. Unlike dating where it's the primary currency. It's only an added bonus at best in the workplace environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 09:22 PM
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The way I see it TRP has a ton of different ideas. Some are downright batshit crazy and wrong. Some are true for certain situations and certain demographics. Some are true in most cases. I would imagine most people base at least part of what they believe on personal experience. I lost 60 pounds and went from being invisible to having attractive chicks approach me (when I was younger). Most people who have gained or lost a lot of weight will believe in lookism to some degree. Because they have ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:20 PM
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Average is too broad. I work in an office where most of the women are 40+. I don't find any of them attractive. Even the "better looking one's" are not interesting to me. I also live in a college town. When I go to parties where a bunch of college chicks hang out. I find like 60-70% of them attractive. Even what most guys their age see as "below average" is quite sexy to me. (most of the time as long as they are not overweight) You have to define your sample group better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:16 PM
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Yeah but why are you so dead set on changing everyone else's opinion? I'll give you an example. When I first started reading about this red pill, black pill, purple pill stuff there was a huge emphasis on height. Tall guys were better looking yadda yadda. I looked around the gym I went to and other places. I found a lot of relatively short guys who were nevertheless well built and had attractive faces with very attractive women besides them. I thus concluded that height was overrated and that ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:11 PM
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Why wouldn't you be able to? We use personal experience to base our opinions on everything else. Why would it be any different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:02 PM
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They have a lot of convergent views but not necessarily the same group of people. From what I understand the black pill came about as a rebuttal to the notion that "women don't care about looks. if you have game you can be very ugly and still get any woman on the planet". Those were exaggerated claims sold by PUA coaches. You could say fraudsters. Black Pill sought to explain in scientific terms why that is actually a load of shit. But they also took it too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 05:38 PM
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I'm starting to wonder if people are equating Belief in lookism (sometimes referred to as Black Pill) = Incel You don't need to be an Incel to believe that looks are a big determinant for success in the dating market. Hell a good looking dude can be sleeping with 4-5 women a week and believe in lookism. The problem with lookism is just like the opposite "game" believers. They all take it too far. "she only wants Chad" "women only find 20% of men attractive". But then again you don't to be an inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:14 PM
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From what I read/heard about leg lengthening. They don't really do it in the West. You have to go to Russia or some shit. They break your legs and put stints in them (or something) to make you taller. Then you spend months in bed waiting for everything to heal. When you do heal in many cases you won't be able to do things that you previously could. Like say run on a treadmill. Because you are no longer structurally sound. To pull the whole thing off you need quite a bit of $ and time. I just don…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:58 PM
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First of all I doubt any woman is going to read some reddit post I spent 30 seconds compiling and adjust her whole dating routine based on my words. At least I hope not :) I don't think there is a one size fits all to this. Take a man who likes a woman and wants to be in a LTR with her. Some guys won't give a shit about waiting. Some guys will take it as a sign of disinterest. Particularly the one's who have other women willing to go to bed quickly. That was actually the case with me and my curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:24 PM
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This comment is very strange for me. Because you get a lot more than just sex out of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:20 PM
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Why would a guy who wants to have a relationship with you not want to stick around if you have sex with him early in the relationship? I dunno about other guys that would actually make me MORE INTERESTED. That's why a lot of women do it in the first place. Because they figure it might help them get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:04 PM
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https://myspace.com/nick3131/photos This is from when I was getting approached (12-16 years ago)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:24 AM
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Speaking from personal experience. When I was younger and the few times I actually got in shale and looked semi decent. I was very far from a Chad. Maybe a high tier normie at best. I had women who were attractive come up to me at clubs and other places. And without openly stating it, it was obvious they wanted sex. Sometimes it was blatant sometimes it was just hinted. Im bout as socially awkward and shy as they get. I get super nervous around cute girls even now. Im very skinny so I only ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:56 PM
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It depends on how you frame the whole "Chad nonsense". There are definitely guys out there that can pull women with their face/physique alone. They don't need money or even game. Just some basic social awareness and skill is all they need. Those definitely exist. Whether they are 1% 5% 10% 20% of men who the fuck knows. It depends a lot on the target audience. I would likely be a Chad in some nursing home lol. But that's far from my target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:32 PM
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What about a fat bald loser with $100,000 to his name?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:53 PM
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This has probably already been said a few times in different ways. But I actually wanted to ANSWER THE QUESTION. Yeah sure the fact that Asian women are a bit more traditional and agreeable has some effect. But it is by far not the main reason. THE MAIN REASON IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY LIKE US. Like us. As in they like us and the Western/American women don't. Now whether that is true or not is irrelevant. You asked why those women are being fetishized. And that is the precise reason. Because unli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:46 PM
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Uhhhhhh Stacy chasing has nothing to do with AWALT or even feminism. Men were Stacy chasing before we were even men. Our ape like ancestors had the same exact behavior. You really think Bojo the humanoid chimp was sitting there worried about Chad and all that mess. Nah........ He saw a hot chick and his balls and brain told him that this is something he wants. Stacy chasing comes down to nature. It's not something men sit there and think about. We just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:10 PM
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I dont know much about others success on tinder. In the United States every dating app I tried didnt work worth a shit. I remember when I was younger and Myspace first came out. I was living first in Dallas then back home in Gainesville Florida. Very few guys were clued in to the fact that you can message 100 different girls in one day. Back then it worked like a god send. Now its over saturated like any good thing online becomes after some time in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:25 PM
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Of course. But the point I was making is Demographics. The same exact $ and status was completely useless in my hometown.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:04 PM
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You're forgetting a very important factor. Demographics. I'm a 36 year old male. I'm neither ugly nor particularly attractive. I live in a college town where most single women are 20-25 years old. There are women more my "age range" but most of them are already married or have children. I spent 6 months on Tinder and got 4 matches. 2 shitty conversations and 0 dates. I then traveled to Kiev. Had 70+ matches in 6 days. I could have went on a dozen dates. Did I suddenly become a Chad? No of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:24 PM
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Well no. There are a lot of different types of traumas that can have permanent psychological effect even if there is no physical disability. For instance my mother committed suicide when I was 21. It wasn't rape or my SO coming after me with a knife. But it still had a pretty pronounced effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:13 PM
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I believe in the field of psychology there are several critical milestones that a person has to go through in order to "mature". Certain steps take place shortly after birth. Certain steps do not happen until sexual maturity. They are not set in stone for when they are supposed to happen. There is a ton of deviation from one person to another. But in general we all go through stages of personal development. So yes I agree that one small experience typically will not define who you are unless it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:08 PM
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Like say your ex got hotter would you want her back? Only if looks were a problem to begin with. In most cases if it's an "ex" she was already at least somewhat good looking. Being more good looking in that context has practically no bearing whatsoever on the matter. Also like just about everyone said an ex is an ex for a reason. Unless that reason was "she wasn't good looking enough but now she is" it's probably not going to change anything. Do you choose girls based mostly on their looks? Yes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:29 PM
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I think the dynamic between gene's and the environment is a bit miss understood. People try to separate the two as if they are not constantly working in tandem. Let's pretend for a second the OP is on to something here. Here's an example. A "genetically gifted" chick in High School will get a ton of attention and have lots of friends. Her experience in high school will form a lifelong mental construct that does not have a whole lot of insecure sentiments. Sure there is still some insecurity. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:13 PM
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That's exactly what I was thinking. To further that point the people that had good experiences in High School and college. Who were treated well and had lots of relationships. They are going to have totally different point of views from someone who didn't. That is reflected in society as a whole and is reflected in this subreddit. Where people often have completely polar opposite point of views on simple subjects such as "how much do looks really matter".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:59 PM
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It's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:55 PM
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If you're 36 in a college town. You may as well be 72. Sure if I was some Chad that might work for me. But then again if I was some Chad I sure as hell wouldn't be writing any of this. I'm not an ugly dude. But not good looking enough to pull early 20 chicks. I have had some one night stands but those aren't relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:52 PM
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I live in a college town. Not too many options here. I'm 36 years old which is basically Grandpa level here. Oneitis all the way. I'm not proud to admit it. But it is what it is. You have to have options to cure that. Before me and her started dating I spent a year going to parties, clubs, social gatherings etc etc etc. Nothing at all worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:48 PM
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https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/the-challenges-of-anxious-avoidant-relationships/ read this I found it very interesting. It describes our relationship very well. To a tee. I just can't tell if its because she's actually avoidant or just straight up isn't into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:46 PM
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Honestly she does. Sometimes begrudgingly. But there's definitely some highs with the lows.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:44 PM
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good question. Honestly I was going to break up with her until I read about the dynamic between avoidants and preoccupieds. The answer is simple. I fucking like her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:43 PM
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Are you anxious preoccupied? I read that we're attracted to avoidants because they give us a high from the cat and mouse game. Other avoidants usually don't date each other. Cause avoidants actually like the attention they get but they refuse to give it back. I don't know how you would screen for it though lol. I used to think she was a secure attachment person till I actually had to live with her for 10 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:41 PM
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you're wrong 100% haha. I'm already suffering. But to me thats like normal. I was single for many years because I associate relationships with pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:39 PM
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It's a long distance relationship. We don't have any common friends. We met when I was on a trip to Kiev. I'm half Ukranian myself but I'm American by citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:39 PM
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Fair enough. I appreciate your input :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:38 PM
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I am seeing a therapist. I have read that finding a secure partner is ideal. But at the same time I don't want to throw away a relationship because someone has the same exact problem as I do (granted on the polar opposite of the spectrum)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:37 PM
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Different sides of the coin. I'm more preoccupied she's more avoidant. How do you work through relationship problems without being in a relationship? You can study them all day long. You can do yoga and meditate. But until the shit hits the fan you won't know how to react.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:36 PM
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Tried. She doesn't like to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:35 PM
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Definitely is a possibility. But I wanted to know more about "how do you tell them apart". If I started right off the bat with "I spend $ on her". It would automatically load the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:33 PM
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Because I too have an attachment issue. I'm willing to work through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:32 PM
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Oh no she's very demanding. I spent $4000 on the DR trip. I didn't want to mention that part because everyone would just assume that she's in it for the $. I have $ so I don't care about spending it on a person I like. But I do care if that's all they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:31 PM
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Sounds about right haha. Though she doesn't block me. But yeah that type of behavior. I don't claim to be an angel. I have my own attachment issues. I'm willing to work through them if there's a genuine connection between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:29 PM
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She has a lot of good qualities. Very attractive, smart, compassionate. I'm willing to make it work if that's the case. If she doesn't like me then what the fuck am I doing.....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:21 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "Crazy". I think those are both bad choices with their own problems. If you date an out of control maniac you can end up destroying your chances of future relationships and god forbid you have children together. If you date an unattractive person you're just never going to be satisfied. Again depends on what level of "unattractive". I think if there's some sex appeal present you can learn to value them over time. If they are just butt ugly you're better off alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:17 PM
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Who knows what the real % is. But let's say its 15%. "Looking at porn is hurting your chances with women" is often a blanket statement. If it applies to 85% of men then it's mostly valid. When you start looking at things on a case by case basis blanket statements often fall on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:50 PM
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Ok so since this is a CMV I'm actually going to try to change your view. I was actually quite successful for about four months, but because I stopped I had a really, really strong urge to talk to just about any woman I saw and have a conversation. After all, many guys my age at the time were having no problems getting dates and casual sex. You sort of made the argument against your own argument right there. Let's think about this. Not all men look at porn. But all types of men look at porn. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:37 PM
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Well I'm with you there. I think that the anti-women shit is stupid and counter productive. The way I see it there's 2 kinds of incels. One's that are truely so hideous that women don't find them attractive. Or at least 0% of the women they find attractive. And mentalcels like me who are only incel because they have terrible anxiety and social skills. For the latter hating women is stupid and counter productive. For incels that just fail at basic level of attraction it's counter productive in ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 05:56 PM
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That doesnt prove anything. Ive dated and fucked women I knew from day #1 were no good. Being attracted to someone physically is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 03:53 PM
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Hmmmmmmmm I guess that's a fair point. Most of those chicks might weigh more than me but I am still a lot stronger then them. When I was younger there were a few chicks into me that could likely kick my ass. They were black girls. Being short doesn't necessarily mean weak. I've seen some 5 foot 5 guys that I wouldn't want to fuck with. They probably weigh more than me despite my height. I dunno. I'll throw you a bone. My sister who I have had long discussions on the subject. Told me "I would rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:32 PM
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"smaller" in what sense? Fat women want to hook up with me all the time. I'm quite skinny. I'm 6 foot tall but I'm not heavy set built. I have a pretty small frame. I only weigh 165 lbs. Lots and lots of much bigger women have tried to get with me. I'm not interested in any of them though. If anything a woman who is bigger than me turns me off lol not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:12 PM
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May be, but if she is merely content with what she can get, and a better looking or more alpha man comes along and gives her tickets for his cock carousel, it is an iron-clad guarantee that she is gonna monkey branch 95 out of 100. Content is a bad word. I should have used the word "satisfied". That is really what I meant. If a woman is satisfied in her relationship and a more attractive male starts hitting on her. A lot of variables will determine if she would cheat. But I wouldn't say its 95-1…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:32 PM
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Have you tried outside of the country? How old are you? If you don't mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:36 PM
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Did you travel? Where do you live? I live in a college town. Gainesville Florida to be exact. I've always had trouble finding women here. Even when I was young and at better than average looking. Getting away from Gainesville has always worked to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:57 PM
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Hard to say I've been around a lot of black dudes. They always had this thing for "big butts" even if they were out of proportion and frankly nasty. I've always liked WELL PROPORTIONED butts. Even if they weren't particularly big. If they had a nice shape to them. I find that a lot more attractive then just a big sack of potatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:41 PM
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There's a couple of issues with that "only top 20% of men should even bother" theory. A) The definition of settling. I have a very specific one. It states "I would not date this person if I had other options". If you are dating someone who can make you content the fact that there are better options out there is irrelevant. A lot of people assume that if a woman has better looking options and decides to "date down" it means that she is settling. She could simply be content with his level of looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:38 PM
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I agree we're probably thinking of two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:45 PM
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I should show you the video if I could find it. It's definitely not safe for work though. They had a lot of lean mass. They had healthy body fat but lots of meat (some had more fat than others but none of them were what you would consider fat). Think of like a track athlete. Like a sprinter. Those girls often have fantastic bodies. I suppose we could have different definitions of thick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:40 PM
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Safer is a relative term. A lot escorts associate themselves with criminals or are criminals themselves. Mostly because what they do for a living is also a crime. When it comes to STD's, getting arrested and generally finding yourself in shitty situations. Escorts are probably worse when you consider all the variables. The answer is to lower your standards. I ADMIT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT OR IF ITS EVEN POSSIBLE (i made a thread about this recently). There are a ton of lower value women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:28 PM
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Moneymax yes Fuck escorts no. It's pointless. What people need is real intimacy and nurturing. Waking up next to someone who actually enjoys sleeping with you. That type of thing. Escorts only provide a very small portion of what's really missing. You're not going to turn them into wifes. You're not going to have children with them. You're not going to play house with them etc etc etc. You get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:15 PM
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I think I thought of making this thread after reading his posts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:14 PM
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No I don't. I've had gay male friends before. They told me straight up "I've always liked guys". I think they were born that way. At least some of them. The thing about the waste to hip ratio is interesting. Though I would say most overweight women actually have a pretty bad waste to hip ratio. Their waste is large and their hips are unnaturally large.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:11 PM
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I don't approach very attractive women because A) They make me nervous. Their validation is worth more thus a rejection from them also carries more weight B) I figure I'm too ugly for them anyway Most of the rational "she's too bitchy" or whatever is likely a masquerade to conceal facts such as A and B. In reality if they actually thought they had a chance and weren't nervous they would probably approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:08 PM
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The "thicker" thing is pretty common. But it's not really what I mean. A woman who is fit but has a lot of lean mass is likely going to be quite attractive. Unless she has masculine traits. I watched a video yesterday of a bunch of spanish chicks who had really nice uhhhh assets. They were what you would consider "thick". But they were also in great shape. When I think of someone saying "I prefer thick chicks" I think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:59 PM
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I've heard this argument before. But again I always dismiss it due to projection. The thought that pops into my mind is "Just because some painter paints fatter women and says this is what is attractive. Does that mean that the average man actually prefers this." If all the media outlets spent all day telling me that obese women are what's attractive. Would that really have any effect on me? Not really. To say its 100% genetic is wrong. I think there definitely is a developmental and cultural el…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:56 PM
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People always say if a women is hot she’s probably crazy. Who say's that? There's plenty of hot women who are not crazy. There's plenty of not hot women who are crazy. It's one of those useless umbrella statements that most people realize is an exaggeration at best. So do hot women have it easier then non hot women? Well of course they do. Just like hot men. The more you value someone the more shit you're going to be willing to put up with. Which is why attractive PEOPLE (not women people) can g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:39 PM
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Why do you say that? Seems pretty spot on to me. I've known several attractive women who DID NOT THINK THEY WERE ATTRACTIVE. Nothing I said could convince them otherwise. Men care a lot less about another man's appearance particularly a friend than their female counterparts. What part of what he said was so wrong that you had to go and say "you've never met a chick"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:16 PM
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when I was 24 years old (I'm now 36). I went from like 200lbs of lots of fat. Down to 150-160lbs. When I was 200lbs I was frequently going out and clubbing and all that. I essentially had 0 attention from women. ZERO! When I lost the 50 pounds the treatment I received from women was just night and day. I was still quite poor. I still had terrible higiene. To this day I'm not a very confident person. Didn't matter all that much. I literally had women driving me to my apartment. Which was litered …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:20 AM
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Why are we even discussing this? Theres a ton of reasons why eating lettuce and vegetables is better than candy and ice cream. Guess what our animal brains still prefer candy ice cream in most situations. Its not a choice its just who we are. Almost anyone in a position where they have to choose looking at porn or having consentual sex with an attractive partner will choose the latter. For the same reasons its simply more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:02 PM
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What's so insane about it? People catch feelings for people they've never met online all the time. It's pretty normal. People fall in love with catfishes. People fall in love with pictures from 10 years ago. Feelings are often for people that don't exist. Just fantasies that a person creates. Ever heard of "maladaptive daydreaming". That's why people stay in shitty relationships. Cause they imagine things being better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:42 PM
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Here's my "I could totally be wrong" opinion of your 3 examples. Guy A: I went on one date with him where he was enthusiastic and asking me to move with him to another state. But after the first date, he went from texting back right away to texting back in 48 hours. Lo and behold on the second date, I got the “I’m not ready for a relationship” conversation. Has another girl or doesn't like you. Or still in love with another woman. Guy B: I knew him from church. For a year I would approach him an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:58 PM
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I actually agree. Lucy Pinder is 35. Her tits look fake and nasty. She's a high 7 at best. Jessica Barlett... she looks good in some pictures. But pretty average in others. Average in terms of "attractive average" not actually plain average lol. But she's not like a 9 or a 10 bombshell not at all. She also looks like she has fake tits as well. Which brings her down a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:19 AM
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Good looking people date other good looking people. If you're a Chad your Stacy girlfriend has 10 guys hitting on her before lunch. Some of them will be richer than you, some of them will be stronger than you, some of them will be better looking than you. You get the idea. You face a ton of competition. The more GOOD OPTIONS you have the harder it is to stay faithful. Chad and Stacy both get cheated on a lot. That shit is tough to swallow no matter how attractive you are. Most of us not living i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:11 AM
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A real 10/10 Chad who's been a 10/10 all his life probably wouldn't give a shit about women. If he ever came across this place he would think we're all a bunch of idiots. He couldn't comprehend why anyone would ever care about any of this. BUT YOU ASKED me... not a real 10/10 Chad. Me knowing what I know now at the age of 36. I would fucking make an online dating profile in every dating site I could possibly think of. Go out every night. I'm sure you get the idea. I would pretty much OD on pussy…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:37 AM
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Nah lol I'm a man. I did Tinder at home for like 6 months. Got 4 matches. 2 of them never spoke to me. 2 of them talked to me once and dissapeared. Visited Kiev and got like 70 matches in 5 days. However I don't think tinder is indicative of the overall dating world. It's only indicative of the tinder dating world. And even there I haven't seen any actual science coming out of tinder specifically stating 80/20. Hell it could be 90/10 or 70/30. Who the fuck knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:57 PM
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How do you get 80/20 out of that? According to google only 6.6 of women NEVER have children. So thats uhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhh 93.4% do. So then if they are only having kids with half of the men. That's still 46.7% of men not 20%. But according to google that % is actually more like 60%. No 80/20 in any of those figures. I must be missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 08:45 PM
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generally speaking 80% of the women have their pick of their mates, and they usually pick within a pool of 20% of men Where is the science behind this? All I know about is that stupid OkCupid article that got taken down instantly. You specifically used the word "generally". Trying to generalize overall trends based on how people respond in anonymous online dating experiments with god knows what variables. Is probably not a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 08:37 PM
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She wasn't an ex at the time. I cringe just thinking about all the horrible shit she wrote about me. That's how I found out she was cheating on me. Man makes me feel shitty just thinking about it and it was 16 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 07:22 PM
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I read my ex wife's diaries. She was pretty hot. While we were still together. Was a huge mistake hahahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:47 PM
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but she "just wasn't feeling it" for completely unspecified reasons. She probably just didn't find you attractive. Had nothing to do with good guy/bad guy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:42 PM
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Your example is terrible. A 22yr old coed vs a 35yr old. Assuming that their looks are at least comparable (22 year old will almost always be more attractive) the 22 year old will win by default high n-count or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:28 PM
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Guys are physically attracted to pretty much anything I dunno if I agree with that boss. Your post is otherwise very well written and interesting to read. But "pretty much anything". Maybe some men......... I don't have out of this world standards or anything. Put me in a big college classroom I'd probably find like 60-70% of the chicks there attractive. But normal women like older (I am 36 years old). I am a lot more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 03:58 PM
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I was talking about me lol. I feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:29 PM
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I dunno man I lived through perestroika. When the USSR economy completely collapsed when it broke up apart into 15 different countries. I was a little kid but my parents were pretty fucking stressed. The people around us who were working for free cause the places they worked at were completely broke. And the only reason they showed up for work is because they knew if they left they would never see any back pay. They were pretty stressed. Comparatively speaking......... I dunno. I've been pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:21 PM
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She's investing her time. You're assuming she's not interested. What if she is? Good looking man = good Good looking man + nurturing = VERY good If you're not attractive to her you already lost whether you pay or you don't. If she is attracted to you however you can improve your standing big time by showing her your nurturing side. You can't get inside her head and know where you stand. Figuring that out comes with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:19 PM
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I guess it ranges from an extreme "Go women fuck men" beliefs to a more moderate "we just want the same treatment and opportunities as men". My question is why do we focus on it so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:14 PM
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I defend men anytime a woman says "Personality is all that matters" or some variation of that mess. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:07 PM
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Why is paying for a bill such a big deal anyway? Its usually like $20-30. That's like nothing in the grand scheme of things. Cost of doing business. Not every investment you make is going to bear fruit. You can make a woman feel appreciated. Or you can get used. One gets you where you want to be. And one is a waste of time. You can't have one without risking the other. If this meal cost $1000 I can see the argument. But $30 who gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:03 PM
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Of course they do. I was just answering the OPs question. He asked why we defend women. I explained why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:00 PM
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"humans are very stressed" What do you base that on? The last 100 years our population has exploded. Families used to have many more children because a lot of them wouldn't make it to adult hood. https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/04/Record-female-life-expectancy-since-1840.jpg The life expectancy has went up 40 years in just 160 years. In terms of evolution 160 years is almost nothing. It may seem like we're stressed. But that's only in relation to perfect comfort. In reality humans have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 03:20 PM
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A lot of what I say can be perceived as me "defending women". But its usually just correcting what I consider an incorrect statement. Men constantly constantly accuse women of doing things that MEN ALSO DO. I never understood the reason to differentiate between men and women when both parties are guilty of the same shit. I also feel like many people don't realize what they are doing. Calling out women for being human basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:37 PM
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Fair enough I didn't see that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:35 PM
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I really don't think it has a lot to do with being afraid of the person. I get super annoyed when unattractive women hit on me. It's uncomfortable. I'm not afraid of them at all. It's like they are putting the burden of rejecting them on my shoulders. Here I was walking by minding my own business. Now I have to reject them and feel bad for hurting their feelings. When all they had to do was leave me the fuck alone. Does that make sense? Now if the chick is cute...... Then I don't have to reject …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:31 PM
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Women get addicted to it too. At much smaller rates obviously. But it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:25 PM
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I guess the point I was trying to make is guys will do everything that women are accused of doing as well. We fall for chicks because they are hot. Even if they are terrible people and horrible potential partners. Some guys learn after some time not to go after those. Some never learn. It's exactly what women do. Imagine if you got put in a position where just about any woman would sleep with you. But most would not have a relationship. What would end up happening to you? Would you instantly hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:22 PM
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Because no man has ever went for the "wrong girl" cause she gave him the tingles. That just doesn't happen. Only women do that. (severe sarcasm in case you didn't catch it)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 01:12 PM
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According to your theory I started out as a fairly attractive guy and have slowly but consistently gotten uglier lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:11 PM
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Why are people so afraid to say this? Chick #2 is better. She is attractive. I would rather date/fuck her. I could give a fuck where she works or how much $ she makes. It's irrelevant in sexual attraction. Maybe #1 might make a better life partner. But I'll never know because I don't want to be with her. Hell about the only thing that would make #1 a better choice is the fact that I probably can't compete with all the options #2 has.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:17 PM
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This is a tough one to answer because it depends on the who is doing the evaluating. Take me for example. You put me in a room with a bunch of women. Have them come from all sorts of backgrounds. All sorts of age ranges. I am probably attracted to only 10-20% of them. BUT I live in a college town. Unviersity of Florida to be exact. Anytime I walk around the campus I am attracted to maybe as many as 60% of the women I see. Something about mostly fit young college students........ you get the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:17 PM
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Depends on your starting point. If you're already somewhat fit then I tend to agree with you. If you're horribly out of shape going to the gym could do wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:09 PM
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Uplifting story for all the chubby Claude's out there :) What is your opinion on the matter? Have you put it here yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 07:27 PM
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It could be a result of how you're treating them. Ya know the whole "you get what you put in" theory. You're nice to guys you find attractive. They are nice to you in return. There could be a million other reasons for it. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 06:31 PM
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I often say this. If you need advice on how to make money. Ask a millionaire dont ask a homeless person. If you need advice on how not to be homeless. Ask a homeless person the millionaire doesnt know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:53 PM
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You're often wrong. OMG. What's wrong with you man! you're supposed to have answers to everything! hehehehehehe I remember I ran across FaceANDLMS videos about 11 months back. I must admit I was sucked in by the rhetoric. Me and my best friend email each other a lot during work hours. Cause at my job I have a lot of down time. I started reading some of the shit I was writing LESS THEN A YEAR AGO and I ask myself "how did I actually believe in this shit". But I DID! hehehehe The reality of dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:01 PM
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Ahhhhhhhh I see what you're saying. It's an availability issue. It's not that women don't have a thirst for it. It's that they are able to satisfy that thirst without resorting to those things. Ok I'll have to think about that one. It makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:46 PM
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You just stated the theory behind women's "hypergamy". Which I only half way believe in. I think everyone is hypergamus. If the male who is a 3 has the option between fucking 3s and 2s or 8s and 9s. He's going to pick the 8s and 9s. More importantly it doesn't actually explain why most of the strip clubs and prostitutes are aimed at males. I've went to many strip clubs believe me I'm not getting lap dances from my looks match hahaha. I'm sure that if there was a huge market for it they could fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:16 PM
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Ok so let me ask you this. How come the vast majority of strip clubs and prostitution is aimed at men? Even most pornography is centered around what men want to see. What explains this discrepancy? I agree with you that women do enjoy sex and don't just do it to please their man. They want to do it too for the same reasons as a man. But the amount of effort men put into it and the intensity of the desire. That is what's really in question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 09:04 PM
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I've tried quite a few different anti depressants. Honestly the only thing that ever worked was opiates but for obvious reasons it didn't work out too well for me in the end. I eventually did kick the habbit. I've been going to therapy for the past 4-5 months or so. I have a pretty bad case of OCD. Even before I knew anything about women or sex I was obsessing over shit. I obsessed over my mother dying from the age of 7 to 12. I probably spent like 90% of those 5 years somehow preoccupied with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:40 PM
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Ya know I used to get triggered by people saying stuff like "as a man is weak shit" or whatever. But lately I've come to realize that sometimes its ok to have traits that others consider to be weak. Maybe you don't get validated through female affection. More power to you. But I do. I don't really understand how you validate yourself when you can't give yourself female affection. You're not female and self affection is obviously not the same thing. If your validation comes from other things like…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 07:49 PM
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Based on your description of him he sounds like Lebron James who never played basketball and instead focused on his weed smoking and McDonalds career. He can still pick up a basketball and be pretty damn good if he tried. You'd have to be more specific on why he sucks with women. If it's just a lack of practice or effort then that can be very easily fixed. If it's some magical curse or some shit then yeah I guess #2 is better. He has everything he needs to be wildly successful based solely on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:29 PM
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Ahhh fair enough. Yeah I guess I use that term loosely to imply she is not overweight. So many people are that it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:02 PM
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Which chart are you looking at? According to the ones I looked at she fits right in the healthy range. Admittedly I'm not huge on the BMI chart. But since we're using that metric....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:55 PM
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Ok so I'm going to assume you are a 24 year old attractive fit woman like you say you are. Chances are you are going after equally attractive men. You have a good income so chances are they too have a fairly good income. Good looking guys with high income are like women when it comes to options. They have a lot. But unlike women they are not particularly interested in being tied down to one. At least on average. Combine that with the fact that they've probably been burned by some other good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:44 PM
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Ok first of all what the fuck does skight mean? I tried to google it and the Urban Dictionary gave me a definition that doesn't seem to fit the context. Everything else thought I meant slight. I agree with what other people have said in this thread. It's not necessarily a conscious process. We don't sit around thinking "If I don't have sex I must be useless". We simply feel it. The same way you feel cold when it is snowing outside. You don't decide to feel cold you just do. That's what your body…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:02 PM
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It's important to note that the affirmation is highly parallel to how interested we are in the female. Being wanted by an old obese ugly woman has almost no validation value. Being wanted by a hot fit young fertile woman has tremendous value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:56 PM
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Where do you guys live? I thought the job market was pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:46 PM
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The actual pleasure from it is very short lived. 10-20 seconds at most. The build up to it is fairly pleasant too. But that usually only lasts several minutes. It's a lot more mental than physical. Also it can hurt if you are horny but can't release. Its called "blue balls".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:43 AM
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I am I am lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 08:24 PM
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I'm watching now. Just started. He said something I don't agree with lol. He said "no matter how attracted a woman is to you she's not going to drag you to her bed ever". I've literally had that happen to me somewhat recently. Now 2 days later she said she regretted and you're a nice guy tee hee type shit. And we were pretty drunk. But still it does happen. I'm not that good looking either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 08:01 PM
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What specific methods worked for you? I've tried mental gymnastics. It works when I'm in a good mood. But completely falls flat on its face the second reality hits. By mental gymnastics I mean things like "thinking positively" and "viewing yourself in a positive light". All it takes is one rejection and it just flies out the window. IT SHOULDN'T...... but it does. I have some narcissistic traits where I think I'm better than I really am. But facing reality hasn't really helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 05:48 PM
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How did you get rid of your need for validation? If its a method that can be applied by anyone you're probably a millionaire and don't even realize it lol. Or is it just something you grew out of? I would love to not have a need for validation. But have no idea how to accomplish that. Or that its even possible for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:08 PM
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For me its always been validation. A woman can tell you she likes you all day long. But if she's not having sex with you....... chances are its bullshit. Now I know I know its a very shitty metric. But it's subconscious I don't really think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:38 PM
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The 4-6 range has a ton of variation due to standards and preferences. It's the 3 and below and 7 and above that most people start to agree on more. This is actually why some of the personality and alpha advice does work. Because if you are operating in the 4-6 range as most people are those things do tend to set you apart. If you're in college surrounded by hot chicks and some of them like you. Then you can't possibly imagine how someone could rate her higher then a 5. If you're some older dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:25 PM
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Why would you tell an older woman that? Maybe you missunderstood the context. If I'm having a civil non argumentative discussion with an older woman. It is not polite to tell her that I find women younger than her attractive. Its rude and sociopathic. You're beating down her self esteem for no reason whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:54 PM
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I mean you could go on a soccer or football forum and make an argument for why it is a waste of time to follow the sport. You'll never convince anyone there but hey why not. I agree that these communities do tend to be absorbing. People do get "hooked" on these discussions. I also agree that people adhere to beliefs that are irrational and not factual. Certain ideas that are echo chambered over and over but have little correlation with reality. The truth is a lot of us are just trying to figure …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:16 PM
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Society is somewhat to blame. The idea of having to grind it out is lost in an avalanche of get rich quick schemes and endless stories of people becoming millionaires overnight. Most people are too dumb or inexperienced to understand that those situations are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:17 PM
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I think you're drawing parallel's that don't exist. If someone is depressed because he can't get a girlfriend that doesn't mean its women's fault. And funny enough I'm coming at it from a lookist standpoint. If you're born too ugly for women to find you attractive. Is that women's fault? Who's fault is it actually? Yes I agree not everyone who is depressed is depressed about the lack of human intimacy. But you'd have to be living under a rock if you actually believe a lack of intimacy doesn't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:04 PM
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(different person here) Which part do you disagree with? Young women have more options? They definitely do. Younger men typically don't want to date older women (on average). Older men typically DO want to date younger women (on average). Thus the competition is stiffer for younger women. Which means more options for them. I don't know if you saw my earlier post. Its difficult for me to even project beyond "I cant do any better" on why some men actually go for older women. It seems totally irrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:14 PM
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I dunno. I'd be curious to ask all those milf lovers what they see in older women to be honest. I wonder if its a genuine preference or just a reaction to not being able to get anything besides older women. I would imagine both exist. The type that are genuinely attracted to them. They could shed some light on this whole "dating older people" phenomenon. To a person like me it's incomprehensible. When I was 7 years old I thought chicks in their early 20s were the hottest. When I was 13... chicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:56 PM
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I am the OP :) I was making up a fictitious environment where looks dont matter at all to anyone because everyone looks the same. For one most people myself included CANT get someone who makes you say wowza. Because those people arent interested. The good news is I am perfectly content with someone who gives me a very moderate level of wowza. Settling for me would be dating someone who has 0 wowza effect. Just because someone is not the hottest person on the planet doesnt mean they cant satisfy …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:58 PM
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Where does Money and Social status fit into this. Important to differentiate. A broke ass college student who is a starter on the football team. Has a lot of status. But no $. So while one often accompanies the other. That is not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:03 AM
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EVERYONE IS HYPERGAMUS NOT JUST WOMEN. Worries about cheating stem from insecurity, past experiences and not trusting yourself. 1) Insecurity. If you feel that your partner is "better than you" (doesn't actually have to be true) then you will frequently worry about them cheating on you. Because you stand to lose more then them. That's probably what you're trying to describe. Happens to both men and women. 2) Past experiences. If you've been cheated on before........ I don't really need to explai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 02:51 AM
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Continuity. I guess maybe its because I've struggled my entire life with relationships. Either being single or being in relationships that sucked for one reason or another. I adore the idea of there being a person who is for me I am for them.... and I feel 0 urge to chase anyone else they feel the same. To the point where the dating game is basically dead. I don't have to worry about it anymore. Its always been stressful for me. But I don't want to be alone either. I would love to just end that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 02:45 AM
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Here's what I mean by "nothing in between". Let's take me. When it comes to my mate choice I'm quite lookist. If a woman doesn't meet my minimum threshold it ain't happening. I happen to think Tinashe (the singer) is really fucking hot. Lets say I started dating Tinashe. She is a millionaire. She starts buying me all sorts of gifts. Shit that I can't afford costs pennies for her. Takes me on all sorts of expensive cruises and trips etc etc. Even a lookist motherfucker like me would be affected b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 02:34 AM
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hmmmmmmmm I guess it depends on how you define "who they are". Your physical appearance is part of who you are. Also did you mean "The plain people who beat themselves up thinking their looks sucked will realize it wasn't just that"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 09:45 PM
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I actually tried to google "are there more male or female models". All i could find was countless articles that state female models get paid more. I would venture to guess there ARE MORE but I can't confirm it. I can confirm there's a lot more female porn actresses and a lot more female strippers. Those are obviously quite lookist professions. Whether there is more men or women behind the scenes would be very difficult to gauge. I imagine it depends on the profession. If in general there tends t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 09:14 PM
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OK perhaps I missread. I'm saying that in reality good looking people have it EASIER. Easier in the dating world that is. On average. If you were to strip looks out of the equation. That would make it harder for them. It would be like going from playing Mario Brothers on easy your whole life to suddenly being switched to Normal difficulty. Average people who play on normal difficulty as is wouldn't notice it as much. But people who are used to easy mode would find it harder. I guess at the end o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:54 PM
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The definition of "real man" is as ambiguous as they come. I'm the complete opposite of you. I'd rather settle down and spend 24/7 with a woman. Trust me plenty of people don't consider me a "real man" for that reason as well. At the end of the day you are 24 years old and you sound like you have no interest in a long term relationship. Either because you haven't found anyone worth having a long term relationship with. Or you just don't want to (which is very difficult for me to relate to. But I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:19 PM
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How did it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:12 PM
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Good looking people find life more difficult? What is that based on? I think that satisfaction with life and attractiveness have a very weak correlation at best. A very good looking guy who is an emotional/anxious/depressive mess isn't going to fair as well as a "normie" who doesn't suffer from those things. Even if he can date 10 different women at a time. I think of physical appearance in the same realm as athletic talent. There are guys who are born with NBA/NFL level of athletic talent. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:09 PM
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Are you that chick on youtube who talks about incels all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 07:01 PM
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Why would it be settling? You mean get into an LTR or choose a "lesser partner". Settle is somewhat ambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 07:00 PM
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Humans and basically all species always find a way to create a hierarchy. I have no doubt that some would do well and others would be incels. Just like today. This point of this whole thought experiment is to sideways analyze the effects of physical appearance on the dating market. I agree that overall there would still be a small population of people who "do really well" a large population who "do alright" and a small population who are incels. BUT WHY THEY ARE THERE would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 06:35 PM
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"This post is written with the assumption that attractive people aren't talented. They may not have to rely on talents as much or put them on display for every encounter, but this is a false assumption." I wouldn't say that. If talent plays a role now it would play an even bigger role in that scenario. The thread doesn't assume that physical appearance is the only deciding factor. Far from it. I acknowledge that there are many other factors. "Also written with the assumption that females are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 06:17 PM
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i agree its one of those things that our minds cant really wrap around. like a world without time or something. we can speculate on it but we dont have enough information to make accurate assessments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 04:54 PM
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Race cease to exist? No Physical sex? No Sex organs universal? No Childbirth and procreation? still the same Genders are still the same. Everything is pretty much the same. There is just no emphasis on appearance whatsoever. Either because its not programmed into us or because all members of the same sex look identical. No matter what your take on lookism is. There is some appearance based hierarchy. Pretend that is completely wiped out. The thought of "I want a good looking partner" doesn't eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 04:33 PM
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The women who's job revolves around attractiveness would lose them. Think of an instagram model. Not all women. In fact most women wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 04:30 PM
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That's funny that article both proves the "you have to meet a woman's minimum threshold of attractiveness" which is probably my favorite Black Pill idea (one I believe in). But it also debunks the idea that women only want Chad. The latter is the source of a lot of their nihilism. "I'm not Chad therefore its hopeless for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 02:17 PM
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Well for one I'm very lookist myself. So for me a lot of what the black pill says is easy to relate to and to project. I disagree with a lot of stuff but the core concept of lookism appeals to me. The real answer to your question is that when I obsess about something I want to to know as much about it as I can. I take all information in. Blue pill, Red pill, Black pill, Purple pill it doesn't matter. There's some truth to all of it. There's extreme views that are probably only true about outlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:22 AM
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Wait wha? (for identical SMV) pool 100 conversion rate 50% you have 50 conversions pool 100,000 conversion rate 50% you have 50,000 conversions What am I missing? Bigger pool = more potential conversions. Also like I said the rich chad has a lot more time for the conversions than the poor Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 05:44 PM
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Yes but a rich Chad can just go to bars all day long. Travel all over the place. Dedicate 100% of his time to chasing women. He can probably have 2-3 different girls every single day. A poor Chad may be able to go out 1-2 a week. Spends most of the time doing some shitty task that makes him miserable. Has access to a lot less women. And the women he does have access to he doesn't have nearly as much time for. I'm not saying a poor Chad isn't doing well compared to others. I'm saying a rich Chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 04:44 PM
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not really. 1) first of all the idea of beta bucks alpha fucks is inherently flawed. it takes two extremes and assumes there is nothing in between. most males are not attractive enough to have tons of women chasing them and not ugly enough to have none interested. both extremes definitely exist but solely focusing on them ignores reality for the vast % of the population. 2) even if the whole alpha fucks thing was right. ask yourself this. whos going to get more play. a Chad with no $ and a shitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 04:34 PM
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I think you worded it wrong Men want to be desired the same way we desire women. Not "chosen because he provides". For the most part men don't really care about being provided for. We are usually fairly independent and don't really value it nearly as much as we value an attractive piece of ass. We want a woman to look at us the same way we look at that piece of ass. With lust. Men don't want to think that the only reason their woman is having sex with them is because later on during the day we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 03:28 PM
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Are you serious? Of course a career as a microbiologist would help tremendously. Those fuckers get paid well. I don't care how good looking or ugly you are $ helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 03:06 PM
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The argument is that the only reason we enjoy those things is due to the value it has for procreation. When you ask "why do we live, what is the purpose of our existence". The only logical answer we can find is "to reproduce". You can come up with a million different angles to that. But as far as we can tell all organisms exist for the sole purpose of passing on their genetics. So yeah eating foot feels good. But it feels good because without it you can't survive. If you can't survive you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:37 PM
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I guess I'm one of those "autists" that you describe. And I agree. The world me and you live in are totally different. You know how you can't make yourself believe in the Santa Claus. I can't make myself care about things I don't care about. I've had OCD all my life and everything is either 0% or 100% with me. I either care too much or I just don't care at all. When it comes to women I go from not thinking about it at all to obsessing about it. Depends largely on my surroundings and my "opportun…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:22 PM
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I'm still wondering why people think only women are hypergamus. Everyone on this planet is hypergamus when given the chance to be. In our society... at least in some countries. That is women. Men can act exactly the same way when they have the options and women don't. Imagine if a war wiped out 90% of men and the 10% of men left had endless options. You really think those guys wouldn't be hypergamus? Something similar happened in Soviet Union after WW2. You best believe those guys weren't walkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 03:29 AM
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You sound like a man with options. GTFO Just kidding just kidding. Some of us are more obsessive and or desperate than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 04:21 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmm how can I explain it. You can't separate people into categories after they reach the attractive threshold? Like for instance "this person is kinda cute" "this person is really cute" "this person is fucking hot" "holy shit this motherfucker is insanely attractive" Are they all the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 07:29 PM
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I disagree. Let's say you have a very high self evaluation/self esteem. Let's pretend YOU THINK you are a 9/10 .... and not necessarily delusional either. Maybe you really are a 9/10. You find some chick who is I dunno 7/10. She's not as attractive as you in your own personal evaluation. BUT nevertheless she treats you really well. She is very warm and passionate. Gives you sex whenever you want. Cooks for you. Cleans for you. Blah blah you get the idea. She puts in a ton of effort. AND SHE IS A…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:42 PM
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For men not looking and porn and masturbating goes a long way. I'm not a "nofapper". So I'm not like suggesting its a good idea or any thing. But it's definitely effective. If you don't masturbate for a while your standards drop noticeably. Drinking alcohol and doing other drugs lowers your standards a lot. Probably should be avoided at all costs though. Unless you plan on being drunk or high 24/7. Amongst a myriad of other problems that lifestyle creates. Being asocial can actually raise your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:38 PM
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I've had sex with women that I wasn't attracted to. I mean yeah you get a nutt. But then you just wait for them to leave. You know the whole "you don't pay a hooker for sex you pay her to leave" shit. I never understood it before. Now I get that they are talking about an unattractive hooker lol. Anyway the experience with someone you're not attracted to is .... bust a nutt... wait for them to leave. The experience with someone you are attracted to is... bust a nutt... enjoy their company some mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:04 PM
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I think when people think of "lowering standards" they are talking specifically about physical attractiveness. Though I must say you're not the first girl to tell me there's a bunch of weirdos on online dating apps. This really cute girl I met in Kiev on tinder told me that she ended up deleting the app and I was the only "normal person" she talked to. (don't know if thats actually true but it was what she said)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:17 PM
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Its impossible for me. Not for the lack of trying either. I actually tried several times to be with people I had a very weak sexual attraction to. And they just couldn't keep me interested at all. They were literally better off without me. And brought me no real joy either. The whole idea of being with someone you are not physically attracted to is completely foreign to me. That's not to say other things don't matter. They do. But not if they aren't physically attractive. its like A really reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:12 PM
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You became sexually attracted to people you previously weren't sexually attracted to? Legit question not trying to start an argument. To me that's what I hear when people say "lower your standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:50 PM
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Me and my best friend spend countless hours at work emailing each other back n forth arguing about all this shit. I used to be very black pill but I have recently changed my outlook a bit. Anyway point is while we are emailing each other we bitterly disagree. Sometimes we even get pissed off at each other. In person totally different story. We find the middle ground much quicker. There is a lot more reciprocal communication where one side talks and another listens. Which makes it easier for us t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 03:14 PM
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Why do so many people assume that it takes no effort to "lower your standards". Attraction is not a choice. You're either into someone or you're not. You can't just will yourself to like someone. It's not happening at the conscious level. Yeah there are things you can do to adjust your standards. But all those things are working to affect change at the subconscious level. Those things are difficult and take time. Most people don't even know how to do it. Its just like telling someone who suffers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:50 PM
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I'm not saying their projection is incorrect. What I'm pointing out is that if you can't trust yourself to behave properly in a relationship. You're not going to expect the other half to do so either. Think about it this way. These player Chads you talk about. 50% of women they run into really are not trustworthy. But they apply this to 100% of the women BECAUSE they know that they are untrustworthy 100% of the time. I don't know what the actual % is. It can be anything depending on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:52 PM
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Here's something interesting to consider. Those players you speak of who don't trust women. They can't trust themselves either. They are projecting. They know that a woman SHOULDN'T trust them because they are not trustworthy. If they know that about themselves. It's not a difficult thing to do to apply the same thing on the women they are chasing. "You can't trust them either". Truth is its never an exact science. 50% of people are too trusting. 50% of people have trust issues where they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:41 PM
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From what I've studied the attachment style depends more on the parents than anything else. If the pretty girl has parents who give her no affection/attention. There is a good chance she will grow up to be avoidant. If her parents are inconsistent with their attention/affection. There is a good chance she will grow up with the anxious preoccupied attachment style. That's the theory anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:36 PM
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Friendly and anxious are not always separate. You can be both friendly and anxious. You can be avoidant without being disinterested as well. It's typically a bad idea to say "people always act this way in this situation" because life doesn't work that way. In lamens terms. A girl can act disinterested when she really is because she is shy. Likewise she can be friendly as fuck and have no interest whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:25 PM
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I've been researching it a lot. Identifying where it comes from has been pretty easy for me. The issue is that the fear comes from I consider "logical fears". So for me its because when I'm in a relationship (as I am now). I always think in terms of "This person is better than me". The girl I am with now is attractive by my standards. Which means it wouldn't be hard for her to replace me. For this reason I think "she can always find someone as good or better than me" and "it would be difficult f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:04 PM
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Yeah I learned about it because my therapist told me I have a "anxious" attachment style. Mine is not avoidant though, sort of the opposite. Mine is "preoccupied". Which is known by the more common term "clingy". Both suck really. The two tend to attract each other as well. Clingy people attract avoidant and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:56 PM
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Sounds like Anxious Avoidant attachment style. Google it. Its pretty interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:20 PM
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Fair enough. I probably said it wrong. What I really meant is that the whole thing loses a lot of value if its only talking about the ONS side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:01 PM
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If its only about one night stands then why does anyone even give a shit? I always assumed it was "in general women only get sexually turned on by 20% of men". I'm not saying I believe it. It's actually not true in my experience. But if its only one night stands then anyone not looking for ONLY one night stands shouldn't even care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:48 PM
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bmi is shit too. it doesnt take into account frame size and lean body mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:08 PM
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Within the manosphere. At least when I was growing up. Men were shamed for being loyal to their girlfriends. It was a "dumb thing" to do to be faithful to your partner. Because women were all going to cheat on you anyway. Hell even now I am in a long distance relationship. And my own father is telling me to fuck around on the side because "you don't know what the fuck she is doing over there" (she lives in Ukraine). So this is definitely both a genetic and a societal thing. Even guys who want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:40 PM
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What would you say is the woman's equivalent of the "I can fuck as many women as I want" dream. Cause I admit just about every male I know would love to live that lifestyle. And the good looking guys I know did exactly that. All those guys eventually married women and some are even loyal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:46 PM
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I actually think I know whats happening. Males are more likely to go ape shit over a woman for their appearance alone. Do stupid shit etc. Women need the man to be extremely attractive for them to react that way. Doesn't mean they can't fall in love or even crush hard on someone less attractive. But for them to act impulsively and fanatically the bar is definitely higher. This is probably the fine point that a lot of these "Women only want top 20% men" miss. You don't need a woman to instantly w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:17 PM
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"she only wants Zac Efron" I used to be big into black pill stuff. I still believe in lookism. Value of looks are underplayed. BUT I actually went out into the real world and decided to test some of this. Everywhere I went I looked at couples (for about 3 months. lots of different places, bars, clubs, gym, park, restaurants whatever). Tried to find patterns. There is a lot of findings that simply do not go hand in hand with black pill philosophy. 1) Asian girls almost always date asian guys. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:55 PM
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You're basing this on a parody experiment. Have you ever actually asked a "fatty boom boom" what her love life is like? Even as far as that experiment is concerned. Those were just guys messaging her. How many of those guys would actually commit to her? Did anyone do an experiment like that? ALSO "If she rejects her options she's just picky". I find this to be a very poor argument. We have little control over who we find attractive. It's not a logical process. We either like what we see or we do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:23 PM
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Fat ugly women can occasionally get a lower tier Chad drunk enough to fuck them. He will completely ghost them when he sobers up. They can get normies to drunk fuck them. And occasionally even commit. But even when they commit they will get treated like shit. Getting random sex is no more gratifying to those women then it is for a rich guy to have a meal. Only hungry poor people are desperate for food. Relationships is what they crave. This is something that is not easily available to them. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:06 PM
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im pretty sure if women all of a sudden decided to "charge different men the same price". as if that somehow makes sense in the real world. there would still be guys pumping and dumping. in fact i imagine if it became easier for all guys to get laid. it would actually happen a lot more. its just nature. both the double standards and the pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:36 PM
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so "pursue multiple options" would be more accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:10 PM
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i guess when i think of having multiple options the fact that im at least somewhat pursuing them is rather implied. but i get where youre coming from. a guy can know he can get laid at a club any day without actually going there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:48 PM
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perhaps i fail all those tests on purpose cause i dont want to be with someone who is on the fence about me. this might be projecting but if a woman is on the fence with me chances are shes better off with someone else. it usually means im not all that attracted to her. ive had so many women (most who i didnt like) lay our a clear easy path for me. anytime i feel like im jumping through hoops it almost always ends up being a shitty situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:31 PM
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Spinning plates = having multiple options. thats a very simple way to reword that Shit Test = managing an argument BUT I must say I dont really believe in the whole idea behind shit tests. In my personal experience with women. If a woman likes you shes not going to throw any tests at you. She doesnt really want you to fail anyway. If she doesnt then passing some arbitrary "test" isnt going to make any difference. Im sure conducting yourself in a certain way can be advantageous in different circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:43 PM
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I was slightly being sarcastic. It's more about seeing the full package. I suppose the beach or the pool works the same way. A high SMV girl is always going to have an attractive face. That is like a given. If she has both an attractive face and a bad ass body. That's high SMV for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:57 AM
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Go to any big gym. The yoga pants are a great indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:48 AM
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I think its like a secret of sorts that guys get emotionally invested as well. Particularly if they dont have a lot of options and place a high value on the person they somehow involved with. Everyone tends to think that guys are automatically in "I dont give a shit" mode. From personal experience that is really only true for the guys who know they can easily get with women. And even they fall from time to time. There is no simple answer to your question. CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 05:54 AM
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Yes and no. I've developed crushes on men I wasn't initially physically attracted to because of their personalities. But these men weren't unnattractive, they just weren't my physical "type". I think there's still a base physical threshold most people have to meet. Elaborate on this please. The way I pictured it in my head is there is 3 states. I'm attracted to this person This person is neutral I'm repulsed by this person You are saying they went from neutral to attractive. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 08:41 PM
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Yeah I'm the same exact way. The whole concept of "dumpster diving" is entirely foreign to me. How people derive any pleasure out of that does not compute in my head. "If there’s no physical attraction at all, I don’t think so. I think emotional attraction is the personal “rationalization” or social “justification” resulting from physical attraction." That's an interesting way of putting it. What about things like emotional attachment? Wanting to be with someone. Missing them. Thinking about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 08:21 PM
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Interesting. I would say I equate emotional attraction with emotional attachment. Thinking about someone. Missing them. Wanting to reach out to them. Wanting to spend time with them. Things like that. Where's physical is just "this person makes me horny". Or at least pleasant to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 08:18 PM
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Yeah "attraction threshold" is another interesting topic. Two very intriguing ideas behind it 1) Standards. How and why some people tend to have "higher standards". Usually it deals with the amount of options but not always. Amount of options is also another way of saying your own attraction level aka "looks match" and "perceived self image". 2) Variation in preference. This is a very difficult topic because it delves into nature vs nurture. I made a whole thread about this earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:05 PM
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Fuck that was amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 05:22 PM
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The honest answer is "As soon as I start getting laid consistently". Though as I stated I often get complacent and actually end up worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:22 PM
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Well first of all you never "stop". Because the one thing about going to the gym is that everything you achieve quickly disappears if you stop working at it. I think we all have an ideal image in our head. It is quite often exaggerated and ultimately unachievable. Which means there never really is an "end point" you just keep going at it forever until you either get tired of it or get caught up with other things. To answer your question though I have fallen for this trap many times in my life. 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 02:28 PM
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I'm not going to pick a side on the bald debate. I think it matters a lot more to some women then others. However you can't use the Rock and Vin Diesel as examples. They are extreme outliers in terms of finances and status. They also have attractive faces which ultimately trumps hair line. An average bald guy is absolutely nothing like those 2 in terms of pure SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:21 PM
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I think one of the problems is that nobody has a clear definition. If your definition of game is "being able to attract women" then it is probably wrong and doesn't really exist. If your definition of game is "finding women who find you attractive" and "maximizing your opportunities with these women" then it starts to make a lot more sense. Learning where to be and when. Which clubs, bars and social outings have the best opportunities. Learning how to approach properly and when (and when not to)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:33 PM
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I think we get the most validation from things we are insecure about. People tell me I'm smart all the time and I could give 2 shits. I know I'm smart. But if someone tells me I'm good looking it will make my fucking day... hell maybe even week. I don't necessarily even think I'm ugly. I'm just very insecure about the fact that I have been single forever and feel that my appearance has a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:33 PM
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Very little. Most will help. Men are more than capable of being aggressive. But it's usually for a reason. Only complete psycopaths get violent without any cause whatsoever. I have a friend (male) who is a legit psycopath (to a smaller degree then what I described above). He will tell you as much. He gets into fights all the time. But it's never unprovoked and he doesn't hit women. Edit: where I'm from men who are violent towards women are considered the scum of the earth. And it's not like I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 06:36 PM
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Hurt you in what sense? You mean like break up with you and cheat on you? Or do you mean physically harm you. Break your heart: out of 100 totally depends on you and the people you date. If you're very attractive and you only date very attractive men. Chances are a lot of them will cheat. There are just way too many variables here to give any answer worth a damn. Injure you physically: I think that number is actually rather small. Most men I know are not violent especially towards women. Most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:40 PM
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well first of all "pussy" or "getting pussy" is a terrible missnomer. its a lot more about companionship, having a family, having a deep connection and yes having sex. I really hate when people say "cant get laid". now as far as the parallel i used it was simply an illustration. of course i understand that you can live without a woman vs living without air. but asking me not to pursue women is inherently unnatural. i dont choose to do it. i just do it because im wired that way. same way im wired…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:41 PM
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I have OCD. It's genetic runs in the family. I see psychiatrist and therapist. So you're not wrong there. "don't put pussy on a pedestal" sounds like good advice. But it's not very practical. There is no actual functional approach. I just don't care about anything else. I have tried playing soccer, basketball, kickboxing, jui jitsu, going to the gym, kickball, bachata, salsa, drinking, drugs etc etc. It's not like I haven't tried. I can occasionally forget about being lonely for a period of time…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 01:59 PM
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People say that. But it's almost like saying "you're putting air on a pedestal find something else to breathe". I personally don't give a shit about anything else at all. Finding a more "important goal" would at best be deflecting into something that eventually leads into trying to get more women. Like for instance getting a new job to make more $. Well why am I trying to make more $? I suppose it's the loneliness talking. If I had women lining up wanting to date me I may see it differently. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 01:43 PM
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I don't think anyone would truly "not have sex with them". People keep saying that but I honestly don't believe that. I think they are really saying is that they wouldn't go out of their way to pursue such a person. If she was throwing herself at them. Personality would play much less of a factor. That is my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:41 PM
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Now that's interesting indeed. Have you guys ever tried to introspectively figure out what causes the differences? Like for instance do you guys both prefer the type of guy who was your "first boyfriend" or even "first crush"... that type of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 08:43 PM
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Its very relevant. Care to give a specific example (maybe a celebrity)?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 05:25 PM
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They aren't doing it consciously. It's biology. Ultimately the point of having sex is to have children. This is why we are rewarded with a ton of dopamine for it. Men chase after the dopamine. You also get a dopamine reaction from attractive individuals. A more fertile individual is thus seen as more attractive (produces more dopamine). It's all happening behind the scenes. Men aren't going around trying to get high on hot chicks. Its just what our brains do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:11 PM
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Older people babble about "inane stuff" (I like that term btw) all the fucking time as well. If anything younger people have more interesting conversations. The older people tend to have conversations about fucking kitchen appliances and interior decorations. While younger people talk about philosophy and life n shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:07 PM
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I agree that there are many forces in the way of such relationships. But men not being interested is not one of them. Men would prefer to date an early 20s chick IF THEY COULD. They just often can't for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:11 PM
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It's probably true. But not due to preference. Due to availability. Most women in their early 20s simply don't want to date much older guys (40 years old was the age OP used).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:05 PM
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There may be a significant risk of divorce. I just don't see too many men giving a shit. A 20 year old is more desirable in every way then a 32 year old. Unless the 32 year old is REALLY HOT that is an extra 12 years of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:43 PM
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Why wouldn't he marry the 20 year old? If she was willing to settle down at that age I don't see too many 40 year old dudes going "nah I'd rather marry someone older because........ (not sure what the reason would be)". Also the real argument against women not pursuing a college degree being stupid is the fact that the best place to find a significant other is college.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:36 PM
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Chad is someone who was born good looking. Sometimes they go to the gym. Sometimes they don't. Often they don't really need to. It just helps them separate themselves further from the rest of the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:12 PM
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Its actually not an incel concept. There is actual science behind it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matching_hypothesis I've been paying very close attention to every couple I see. There's no such thing as a "perfect looks match". But if you look at enough couples you will see that in almost every case they are very close to each other. Miss matches do happen regularly but at a much smaller rate. For every miss match you will see 9 or 10 matches. There's a variety of reasons for it. I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:33 AM
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This is how I think it really works. You take a VERY ATTRACTIVE person. They can look good skinny. They can look good slightly fatter. They probably won't look good obese. But the fact is they can make whatever shape they are in look good. Not the other way around. If you want everyone to like skinny. You pick out the hottest chicks who can pull off that look. And you parade them. Media/Internet helps a lot. You could do the same thing with slightly fatter chicks if you wanted to. Gene's always …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:50 PM
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I disagree. I think that genetically we have a set of traits we look for. No amount of media could ever convince the majority of men to like very obese women for example (admittedly extreme example).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:01 PM
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A woman telling you that she likes Jason Momoa. Isnt going to magically make you look like Jason Momoa. In fact it may make you realize that the whole endeavor is pointless which will hurt your feelings. Something she is trying to avoid. So she just sugar coats it. Honestly you cant really blame her. 50000 years ago that ugly dude she just told is ugly could hit her with a club and rape her. Its a natural defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:52 PM
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Why are the two self exclusive? You can be both solipsistic and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:45 PM
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Here's where it gets interesting. One of the black pill ideas I don't believe in is that "all women want Chad". Chad of course being a very good looking guy. I think that the degree of attraction necessary is not always that high. I think me and you sort of agree here. The incels think "well I am not Chad so its over for me". When in reality there are probably still a % of women who do find them attractive (even if to a lesser degree than Chad). But here is where we disagree. The % is important.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:35 PM
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I seriously doubt its "just charisma". Good luck trying to escalate correctly if she feels 0 physical attraction towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:16 PM
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Doesnt really work that way. People want a challenge. Everyone wants what they cant have. Combine that with the fact that the average male tends to let himself go (get fat) once secure in a LTR. The sexual attraction goes to shit. Doesnt surprise me that the satisfaction from the relationship goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:08 PM
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Depends on how much I like the girl. There are many women where that would actually be a blessing. If this is someone you actually want to have a relationship with. I wouldn't necessarily hate the arrangement as much as a woman would, but I would still want more. I think a man could be hurt by such an arrangement if he is deceived. Even if the deception is for you two to do something you inherently enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:47 PM
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You know thats an interesting point. I dont find Oprah even remotely attractive. But if she wanted to date me I sure as fuck would. Just for the limelight and the potential access to money. Lets not kid ourselves men are fully capable of being gold diggers too. What attractive young broke man from the ghetto wouldnt sleep with Oprah for $. Yet you really dont see nearly as often. I wonder why that is. Maybe its just not as publicized I dont know. Maybe its a societal thing. The only thing I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:16 AM
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I hate the word shallow. Its so stupid. I tell people I want to date attractive people i get called "shallow". Like its my fault that nature, flying spaghetti monster or whatever made humans the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:11 AM
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You cant ask a question like this without mentioning what they look like. If the CEO doesnt work our chances are she is quite overweight. Which makes her less desirable. How much $ they make is largely immaterial to men who already can provide for themselves. Perhaps it would make a difference to a bunch of broke men. Furthermore their profession only gives vague unreliable hints about what those women are like. The CEO is likely a manipulative bitch with sociopathic traits. But thats not a guar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 09:05 PM
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Ive never actually seen a study that states "20% of men are having 80% of sex". Ive seen the okcupid study which said that women only found 20% of men attractive but it did not specify whether they were the same exact men or whether it simply meant most women did not find 4/5 men attractive. My hunch is theres bound to be at least some diversity there. To answer your question I dont think it applies to either. More than likely because human sexual urges and human emotional attachments dont alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 06:08 PM
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Confidence is very misunderstood. It generally comes from accepting where you stand in the world. Whatever that may be. If you know you're only attractive to a small portion of women. You own that shit. You go into the world knowing full well most will reject you because you are not up to par. People think that you develop this mysterious confidence and suddenly every girl you couldn't get before suddenly starts bowing at your feet. What really happens is you stop giving a shit about all the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:15 AM
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Heres my logical counter argument. I refuse to date someone I am not attracted to. You could say its selfish because its all about me and how that person makes me feel. But theres another side of that coin. I have dated women before that I wasnt all that attracted to. Sometimes because I was peer pressured. Sometimes because I wanted easy access to sex. More so than anything out of pure loneliness. In theory being with someone is better than being alone. I treated them all like shit. I was very …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:07 AM
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I joined a kickball league in my city. For like $50 a season I get to hang around a bunch of different people. I ended up joining two different kickball leagues. It helps that after the game we go to the bars that sponsor these leagues. But you're not at the bar hoping to hook up with some random person. You're going there with a group of people you at least sort of know. It's also great for just making friends in general. I am now looking all over town for other sports related leagues I can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:59 AM
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First of all I 100% agree with your sentiment. I would give you 10 up votes if I could. I may actually copy this and use some of your language later when this type of shit gets brought up again. Secondly I think it is an over correction. Think of a driver who is falling asleep. He starts to steer into the median. Wakes up right as he is about to hit it, see's what is happening and proceeds to overcorrect right into the ditch on the side of the road. I believe society is doing the same thing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:03 AM
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I think at the end of the day "reaching the attraction threshold" is more important than overwhelming someone with your appearance. I think that is where all these arguments kind of falter. You see a good looking woman with a normie guy. You assume that she "settled" for him and would prefer a better looking dude. But maybe she is perfectly happy with him because she does find him attractive. It's not necessarily that she doesn't trust the better looking dudes. That's really the basis of my argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:50 AM
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What type of women are we talking about though? Girls in college? I find that one of the issues with discussing these trends is we're assuming everyone has these rich social lives with constant contact with new members of the opposite sex. That's not reality for a lot of people. There's plenty of good looking hermits with few options. There's plenty of people who never use dating sites. There used to be an epidemic of women who wouldn't leave the house because they had too much anxiety. My thera…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:46 AM
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I find this highly questionable. I think the real issue is supply and demand. There is a lot more demand for good looking guys for LTR then there is supply. For obvious reasons because they are rare. It's the same with women for men. I just don't see a really good looking dude being turned down for a LTR because a woman thinks "you are too hot".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:27 AM
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In my personal experience I was married to a woman who was better looking than me. She had me wrapped around her pinky always got what she wanted, won most important arguments etc etc. I was simply too overwhelmed by her, didn't want to lose her. This type of shit where I "put her in her place" happened at least 2-3 times a day. It amounted to pretty much nothing. Because whenever anything of significance happened she always held the upper hand. You can't tell the dynamics of a relationship base…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:56 PM
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BMI is almost entirely useless period. It doesn't take into account body frame at all. Body fat percentage is far more useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:49 PM
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A) the same size is shit. For all we know he is a total wimp to her 99% of the time. And we happened to see the 1% of the time he wasn't. B) The gesture itself is very small and fairly insignificant. Its not like he slapped her face and said "mind your tongue woman" (a more extreme example).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:31 PM
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It totally depends on what you mean by "average". An average 18-25 year old chick is actually quite attractive to me. So I'd take the one who likes me more without a doubt. Av average WOMAN is not attractive at all. The 10/10 would win by default. I think at the end of the day most of us would prefer a SLIGHTLY attractive person who thinks the world of us versus the 10/10 who doesn't care. But I doubt too many would pick someone unattractive in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:24 PM
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where are her other pictures. im not into fat girls at all. but she doesnt look like a real land whale. gotta do the same experiment with a very fat woman with a shitty face to go along with it. Put "NOT HERE FOR SEX" in the profile. i know a lot of guys wont read it. but it will be a fairer representation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:00 PM
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Yeah I'd have to see how they did it. Cause the word "average" is kind of a shitty one to use. The average woman is not attractive. So if I tell a girl that I think she is "average" that is very far from a compliment. Probably means I am not interested. But that's me, other people may have different semantic perceptions of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:49 PM
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See it depends on what you mean by "settle". Take me for example. Yeah sure all things being equal I would take a 10/10.... I mean who the fuck wouldn't. But I know that's likely unrealistic barring some miraculous circumstances or straight up gold/visa digging. Thing is though I don't need a 10/10. You give me a 6/10 someone who is still attractive enough to fuck. She may have some imperfections or whatever. Maybe slightly overweight maybe her teeth are slightly crooked. She has good facial fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:27 PM
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This reminded me of this situation I got into in my mid 20s. I met this girl at a club. We made out right there on the dance floor. Me and her friends went home to my house and some roommates. We hung out for a bit. Then I literally picked her up and took her to my room. We made out. I took my clothes off but she was like "No I don't want to right now". We talked a bit afterwards. Then we talked on Myspace (tells you how long ago it was) for a couple of weeks. I hung out with her again. Pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:50 PM
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If someone was to "articulate it very well" how would it sound? Very curious :) You can just put it in a few sentences. You don't have to type out a novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:15 PM
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I really have noticed they just don't get that you can find someone attractive and not want to fuck them. Can you give me an example of this situation. I'll be honest me being a man the fact that I find a woman attractive by default means I want to have sex with her. Unless she is like my best friends girlfriend or underage or some shit. There has to be a barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:12 PM
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We're just kind of throwing numbers out there. I go out a lot (3-4 times a week). I spend at least 10 hours a week at the gym. Everywhere I go whenever I notice a couple I take a mental note of who's more attractive. I don't find many mismatched couples in terms of looks. Most are at least in the ball park of each other. But I tell you what I see a hell of a lot more "normie" guys with attractive chicks than vice versa. I hardly ever see good looking dudes with not so attractive women. It's a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:45 PM
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What do you base that on? Some okcupid study? Tinder trends? What actual scientific evidence is there that 80% of men or whatever you want that % to be is 100% unattractive to ALL WOMEN. Even if an average normie has 10% of women who find him attractive (meaning 90% DO NOT) that is still a ton of options if you're constantly socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:38 PM
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Whats the girlfriend like? If shes hot all is forgiven. If she was a looks match back then chances are now the eyes are moving all over the place. Its a shitty thing to say but its probably true. Depends on many other variables though. You said "she treats you well". That can go a long way honestly. Theres also these things called emotions. If youre attached to a person you may be inclined to forgive them for anything. And here there isnt even really that much to "forgive".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:27 PM
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Imagine for a second if women were expected to approach men. You would go to publix and a bunch of fat ugly women would constantly harass you for a date. Maybe it requires no special skill. But it's not exactly all fun and games all the time either. As a man you can just ignore them. Women have to find ways to fend that shit off. Some develop assholish tendencies as a result. Just to keep the unwanted attention away. Some end up stuck in the house 24/7 cause they don't want to face it due to anx…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:38 PM
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It probably centers mostly around the fact that men have stronger sex drives. For this reason most cultures and societies are based around the fact that men approach women. Which means women usually have multiple suitors. There's a catch of course. If you're not the one approaching you can only influence who approaches you. Some women do approach but a lot do not. If everyone who approaches you is not attractive to you, and you do not approach yourself you end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:14 PM
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Well said my friend have an up vote lol. I tried to think of a way to counter that but I don't have anything at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:16 PM
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Men and women are very similar. If you want to figure them out just use introspection. People often criticize each other for "projecting" or "thinking like a man". In my experience when you look at it from that lens everything makes a lot more sense. It's not always lookist either. I've been crushing really hard on this chick who is just slightly attractive. Ignoring the more attractive females around her. Why? Fuck if I know. Probably because when I met her she made me feel like I had a chance.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:10 PM
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Interesting. So let me ask you this. Why is there such a huge emphasis on making $ in the Red Pill. If you're not really flossing it to get women. I sorta get the whole "better yourself for the sake of yourself" idea. But it's kind of hard to do when you're sleeping alone and just gave up porn and jacking off hahahah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:58 PM
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"Alpha male" has so many interpretations. Here's some potential interpretations just from my head: 1) Guys like Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Stalin, Putin etc. The guys at the absolute top of the food chain with no competition whatsoever. 2) Guys like The Mountain or Kimbo Slice (or some other heavy weight professional fighter). They are so fucking big and dominant nobody is going to fuck with them physically without a weapon. 3) The criminal type who just generally don't give a fuck about anyone or …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:53 PM
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You just covered most of the planet :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:40 PM
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I don't doubt some women will try. You have to remember though. I'm not some normal Western style traveler. I speak the language. I can even pass as one of them if I really want to. I'm also pretty blunt if I need to be "I'm looking for a real companion not a sugar baby/visa hunter". I agree though a large % of those "interested in me" will likely only be after the what I have to offer and who I am. I guess that's where the red pill and black pill kind of diverge. Black pill says those things ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:35 PM
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Well there's a couple of things 1) I am a slav. Both of my parents are slavic. Which means I have slavic facial features. A slavic woman is more likely to find a slavic man attractive then say a European woman. This is of course on average. 2) Being an American with decent finances gives you high status in those places. My status here where I live is median at best. Over there it's quite a bit higher. 3) My upbringing is Russian not American. I may be Americanized but my parents were not. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:30 PM
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While I don't agree that 80% of males are not attractive to women. I think that is a very pessimistic view. I think there is a % of men who truly do struggle in that regard but it is much smaller than 80%. What you got here is an outlier. I don't think stark lookists deny that there are men out there who are capable of manipulating women. Even if they are not particularly attractive. That guy isn't ugly by the way. He's more of a normie. This guy wasn't just "capable of manipulating" he was a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:25 PM
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lol uhhhhhh well I probably have. I'm often quite drunk so I can't really tell how old they are. Sometimes they look like they are in their mid 20s. Sometimes I can't tell if they are even old enough to drink. I live in a college town some of the bars/clubs are 18+. My real issue is I'm shy as fuck. I have to be drunk to approach women. I'm getting therapy and shit for it. I think when I was in my early 20s I was a decent looking guy. No Chad or even Chadlite. More like a "high tier normie". Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:15 PM
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Interesting. I started out life as blue pilled because of my mother. I think a lot of us did. She always told me the whole "its how you make a girl feel thing". Spent most of my life red pilled. Thinking its more about acting like a dominant person. Even being an asshole to some degree. I'm 36 now after a string of rejections I ran across Black Pill material on YouTube. Felt like it was very consistent with HOW I FELT ABOUT THE OPPOSITE SEX. So it wasn't a huge leap to say "maybe that's how they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:07 PM
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That sounds more red pill to me. Funny thing is I don't even know what the blue pill is. In my mind Blue pill: Looks don't matter. It's all about personality. (mostly nonsense) Red pill: Looks do matter. But you need to be a macho man. Alpha male etc etc. (more about how you carry yourself). Black pill: Be good looking. Seems like different people have different definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:52 PM
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That's more black pill for me lol. As in. Men like attractive women. Women like attractive men. Obviously there's more to it then that. But that's the overall idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:48 PM
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I've fallen "in love" with girls I wasn't overwhelmingly attracted to. Emotions are a whole different ball game :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:39 PM
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I like to think of it this way. Instead of using the old 1-10 scale. Just use a 1-3 scale. 1) Not attractive 2) Attractive 3) Overwhelmingly attractive When its #3, things like personality, charisma etc. They don't really matter all that much. Long as they are at least somewhat passable its all gravy. It also doesn't matter with #1, cause we're not attracted to them no matter what. This is how it is for me personally. I can't know what goes on in other people's heads. I reckon a lot of guys are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:33 PM
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It depends on the environment. An attractive female may work in an office with a bunch of guys she doesn't find attractive. They hit on her.... but that means nothing to her. She may be really shy and never goes out. Doesn't use tinder etc. Her options are limited. Just because you are attractive doesn't mean you are immune from social anxiety and solitude. Some have kids. Some have other obligations that force them to have little free time. Edit: but thanks for the interesting word "solipsism".…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:21 PM
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I'm with you on that one. The women hatred really kind of turns me off from the whole thing to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:18 PM
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Honestly I don't know because I'm not a woman. But I can tell you from my own personal experience as a man. If a chick is attractive enough as long as she doesn't start drooling and acting like a retard I'm going to be interested. She has to work her ass off trying to make me disinterested. But this is only in cases when they are OVERWHELMINGLY attractive. There's plenty of women out there that I find attractive who don't have this over bearing effect on me. My hunch is women and men are not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:11 PM
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There's a ton of potential reasons 1) She is overwhelmed by his appearance. Aka LOOKS. 2) Not every attractive woman has options. There's a difference between having a lot of options and having GOOD OPTIONS. He may be the only "good option". 3) There's often a tug of war going on in a relationship. The person who puts in the most effort often gets the short end of the leash. Sometimes the fact that he won't pay attention to you or treat you like royalty actually makes him more appealing. Those a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:02 PM
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How would I frame this properly? I don't want to have this discussion with incels. They are a little bit too brain washed by their own rhetoric. I want to have this discussion with a wide array of people who have different ideas. And women particularly women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 02:39 PM
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That's what I was thinking. What man in his right mind WOULDN'T enjoy flirting if the chick is attractive and flirting back. It only becomes a problem when it's not being reciprocated. By the same token it's equally uncomfortable if the person flirting with you does not interest you in the least (not even enough to flirt back).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 01:04 PM
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I guess it depends on how you define it. The most important tenet if you will of the black pill is "Women are not different from men when it comes to choosing mate". Men care about personality to some degree. Men care about status to some degree. But mostly we care about looks. That to me is the black pill. Furthermore it's not really about ideas we agree or disagree on. It's purely the search for the truth. Of course Chad will have more and better options. But the common black pillers mistakenl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 12:15 PM
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this is in a college town bro. these girls are in their early 20s. like i said its possible im just shit at judging guys. but i have seen a hell of a lot more attractive chicks with what i would consuder normie guys than vice versa. chads are almost always with a hot chick or by them damn selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 01:49 AM
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the 80/20 rule ignores a lot of factors and comes from dubious science. let me give you two examples. put me in a room with 100, 22 year old chicks. I might find as many as 60 of them attractive. put me in a room with 100, 40 year old chicks. i may not find a single one attractive. reference point matters. also where does this 80/20 idea come from? some okcupid study? just because the same principle applies to other things? its miss applied science without any real backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 11:25 PM
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What is the blue pill? I'm black pilled myself. I always think of the blue pill as the more "optimistic" version of red pill. Is that the one that says looks don't matter? Promise not trying to argue. I literally have no idea what the blue pill really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:43 PM
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Black Pill.......... oh my where do I start 1) 80/20 rule is mostly nonsense. I think it could be true in a complete vacuum where everyone has access to everyone. But reality doesn't work that way. 2) Women only want Chad. I actually debunked this through observation. Maybe I'm just shit at judging men but I constantly see quite attractive women with what I consider normies. 3) Women are hypergamus. While that statement is technically true. In reality all humans want the best possible option. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:40 PM
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"very attractive personality" is actually nonsense too. a girl who is horny will gladly settle for a normie if thats the best thing available. most guys would never get laid if that wasnt the case. chad is just as rare as the 10% Stacy. there is only so many to go around. for every girl holding out there is 2-3 that just want some dick. women are no different from men. they will take what they can get. if its the cream of the crop... they will take it... if its the next best hing... if they are …
/r/BlackPillScience02/06/19 07:34 AM
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You gotta remember. All the laws that apply to us apply to them too. If you want a relationship and you're not in the 10% or 20% or whatever. You gotta do the best you can with the hand you're given. It may not work that way when some normie chick wants some dick on tinder. But that is just a small portion of the exosphere.
/r/BlackPillScience02/06/19 07:00 AM
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honestly if youre not normie. I'm not the guy to give you advice. I'm really not. So yes you're right. If youre the tier below get advice from someone who's succeeded at your level. I can't fucking do it :( I really wish I could man. But I can't.
/r/BlackPillScience02/06/19 06:59 AM
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i thought about this post for a long time. and you guys might not like it. you might not respect it. but it is a broken application to a broken science. yeah women want a gorgeous guy. we all want a gorgeous significant other. but to think like that is the only thing that will ever suffice is to completely ignore reality. go out tommorow night. youll see plenty of normies with bad ass girls. you know why? cause they are.not that different from you. they will take what they can get. they are fuck…
/r/BlackPillScience02/06/19 06:20 AM
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I don't think there is a one size fits all here. Some guys can pull off the bald hair look so it doesn't really affect them that much. Some looks absolutely dreadful because of it. There are women who will simply not date visibly balding guys. There are some who don't give a shit at all. It's certainly a flaw. But I highly doubt it is as bad as people make it out to be.
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 12:41 PM
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Could you show me a few specific issues. I learned how to write in Russian not English.
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 12:36 PM
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I think the idea that women are hypergamus is inherently flawed. It's true that women are hypergamus. But so are men. Men are equally hypergamus. The difference is men don't get bombarded with options the way women do. Some of it is society (tinder etc). Some of it related to men's sex drive. Think about it this way. Let's say you're a normie man. If you could get on tinder and have a bunch of hot chicks messaging you genuinely interested in having sex with you. Would you look for your looks mat…
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 12:16 PM
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As with most red/blue pill ideas there is some truth to it but it is misrepresented. The question isn't whether beauty is subjective. The question is why there is variance in what people find attractive. Its easy for us to rationalize the differences between what men and women find attractive. There is biological reasons behind it. But why certain men like fat women while others are appalled by them is harder. To me its a question of nature vs nurture. It's easy to visualize how a person's "pref…
/r/BlackPillScience26/05/19 09:39 PM
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"long as women are not lusting after him or have been impregnated by him" I need you to clarify. So if some overweight generally ugly 50 year old man makes I dunno $300,000 a year. Goes to some super poor country and impregnates a bunch of women. Let's pretend he masterfully convinces all of them that he will take them back to US with him. Now he's a Chad? Chad to me is a guy that women want without resources. He doesn't have to court them, he doesn't have to take them out on dates. They just me…
/r/BlackPillScience13/05/19 05:35 PM
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i personally think that the notion that only women are hypergamus is highly dubious. humans are greedy in everything. i asked my dad one time why Bill Gates still came to work. Even though he had 50 billion dollars. he casually explained "When you have $1 you want $2. When you have $2 you want $5. 5 you want 10. 10 you want 100. On and on we always want more". Look at any famous ugly male celebrity. A lot of them have attractive wives. Maybe those women are being hypergamus for resources. But th…
/r/BlackPillScience09/05/19 01:41 PM
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One anecdotal story is not enough to discredit anything. No more than someone saying "hey I know this fat ugly guy with no money dating this really hot chick". Even if it's true doesn't mean anything.
/r/BlackPillScience05/05/19 08:56 PM
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hmmmmm that may be very true for hook ups. but for relationships women are just as jealous as men in my experience. id have to see some data on this because anectodal evidence isnt always the best metric for this type of thing.
/r/BlackPillScience05/05/19 05:33 PM
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People hate me for making this argument. But this pretty much shows how women aren't the only one's who are hypergamus. Men are also looking for the best possible option. Women just have better options and thus opportunities to be hypergamus. Men would behave exactly the same way if women went out of their way to talk to as many men as possible.
/r/BlackPillScience05/05/19 02:25 AM
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Men act like they are not hypergamus. Take a normie guy who dates an uglier girl. He's not dating her because he is genuinely interested in someone uglier than him. He is dating her because he feels that is all he could get. If he had better looking options than him. He would take those instead. Normie women on the other hand frequently have better looking suitors. It's not that the guy is any less interested in better looking women. He just can't have them in most cases.
/r/BlackPillScience03/05/19 12:31 PM
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I don't think womens innate hypergamy is a correct statement. Women are not hypergamus. HUMANS are hypergamus. Men and women alike. The difference is women have a lot more opportunities to be hypergamus. Think about it this way. If you found yourself in a Colombian night club surrounded by super hot chicks who will gladly sleep with you because they want to live in America. Would you go for your looks match? Hell no you'd find the hottest chick there. Look at male celebrities who have a ton of m…
/r/BlackPillScience03/05/19 02:08 AM
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Did anyone read the actual study? Reason I ask is because I actually read one of the studies that claim babies look at attractive faces longer. It does show a preference but its much weaker than I anticipated. Only like 60/40 or so if I remember correctly. Just by reading the summation it says "Strength and Attractiveness" not just attractiveness. They don't really say which one plays a bigger role.
/r/BlackPillScience22/04/19 08:46 PM
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I actually trained for MMA religiously for about 5-6 months with that exact thought in mind. There's one humongous problem with that whole concept. All it takes is a knife, a group of friends, a gun or surprise sneak attack you don't see coming. To completely neutralize your MMA training. You go out specifically looking for a fight. With a chad or whatever. Sooner or later you get shot, stabbed or beaten up by a mob. That or land in prison for assault/murder.
/r/BlackPillScience20/04/19 05:35 AM
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Have you ever considered going to like Colombia or some shit. To get a visa wife. I mean it's not the greatest relationship ever. But if you're picky enough you'll at least get one thats accommodating. Pop out some good looking children dedicate your life to them. If she wants to leave after however many years she has to stay with you... fuck it you got the kids to live for. When I say I'm a superstar I exaggerate. There are several women that I could easily get with if I really wanted to. But p…
/r/BlackPillScience16/04/19 03:04 AM
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Because what you're saying only makes sense for a small portion of the age group. 18-21 yeah sure girls want the best looking guy alive. They all think they are going to marry a 10/10. But as they get older they realize its not going to happen (at least for most of them). They are still attracted to the 7/10 8/10 9/10 the lesser attractive ones 6/10 5/10 etc. I mean shit I promise you... you ask a random group of college girls (I'm 35 years old and live in a college town) what they think about m…
/r/BlackPillScience16/04/19 02:42 AM
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I'm not saying that tinder and other dating places have not changed things. But I feel like at least PART OF the reason why so many men are now single is due to the social isolation occurring in our society. Shit I was at the gym working out the other day, 3 other guys around me, all glued to their cell phones. And these are gym goers mind you. An average guy probably spends 75-80% of his free time playing some video game. You can't get with women if you are never around women. No matter what yo…
/r/BlackPillScience16/04/19 02:22 AM
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hmmmm interesting if you're right and it's really +3 that's a fucking lot. at least on my scale. you put me in a room with a 4/10 i wont even acknowledge she's there. a 7/10 will easily command 100% of my attention. night and day. seems a bit much to be honest. that doesnt mean you're wrong though. hard to know for sure. those thugs typically have money and status at least within that realm. how much of their SMV comes from their shitty attitude is difficult to quanitfy.
/r/BlackPillScience02/04/19 07:30 PM
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isnt that though what the red pill pua crap tries to teach you. how to pretend to be a narcissist jackass?
/r/BlackPillScience02/04/19 04:14 PM
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Well I mean ask yourself. How many people can actually accurately access a persons height? Do women walk around with a measuring tape? When they see a hot guy who has nice muscle definition and attractive facial features. Do they whip out the measuring tape and make sure he is exactly 6 feet or taller? Of course not. They just say that shit. Most people don't even know what 6 feet looks like. I am 5 foot 11 and like 3 quarters. When I go to the DMV they put 6 foot 1 on my drivers license. When I…
/r/BlackPillScience21/03/19 04:56 PM
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cause it's a nice round figure. nothing more to it.
/r/BlackPillScience21/03/19 04:19 PM
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I may be an extreme outlier. But this happens to me all the time. If I'm in a relationship how interested I am is often proportional by how much I feel the whole thing is "in the bag". If I feel confident about it I'm constantly thinking "is this really the one I want. Is she good looking enough. Can i get a better looking girl". Soon as things turn sour though I start treating her like a princess. I'm a big believer in lookism. But there is definitely an advantage to behaving a certain way once…
/r/BlackPillScience20/03/19 05:51 PM
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There's a few reasons 1) It's traditional. In a society where the lord is great and everyone should only judge each other by their character and not looks (utopian bullshit), you have to go on dates to get to know each other. It's ingrained in us. 2) For hookups personality plays a very small role in attraction. But for long term relationships anyone with any experience will know it plays a larger role. You can only tolerate it for so long if that 10/10 you're with has a fetish for smearing fece…
/r/BlackPillScience04/03/19 11:01 PM
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I don't mean to turn this into a political debate. But I don't think its only leftists that promote these types of ideas. "Just be a good person" "Everyone is beautiful" "God made someone for everyone". Those are all religious type ideas. Those are usually promoted by the right. What I'm saying is that both sides are equally guilty of promoting nonsense on the matter.
/r/BlackPillScience26/01/19 05:51 PM
4

well........ For one you can't use The Great Gatsby as an example. Its just a story. A fictitious one. Hell I've never read the book. I only saw the movie. In the movie its Leonardo DiCaprio who's the rich guy. I'm sure Leo would do quite well even if he was totally broke. I think without a doubt money ATTRACTS women. But does it actually make a person more physically attractive is what I'm curious about. Like say a chick thinks I'm a 5/10 nothing more. Then she finds out I'm rich as fuck. Do I …
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 07:43 PM
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So is it looks or money I'm confused. I was under the impression that women only settled for richer guys. In reality it was far better to be good looking than rich if you wanted a "fulfilling" relationship. And not one where you're stuck with a resource sucking leech who wouldn't fuck you if it was up to her. Now science is saying $ can actually make you look more attractive physically. I find that difficult to digest. I mean I can see the logic behind it. But I just fail to see how a male can a…
/r/BlackPillScience23/01/19 09:24 PM
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"Abs start to show" at 12% fat? That's way too generalized. I have very prominent abs. Even at 20% body fat you can see them. My best friend carries most of his fat on the stomach (unlike me). He needs 10% bf to have any definition at all. I carry most of my fat on my chest love handles and face. Funny thing is my abs arent actually bigger or stronger than his. You can just see them a lot better. It really depends on genetics.
/r/BlackPillScience19/01/19 04:50 PM
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I am an incel. But I've had problems with drugs and anxiety. To the point where I was a hermit for years. I was also very overweight. I have since lost weight and made a lot of changes to my every day behaviors to get out of the house and shit. I guess you would cal me a mentalcel. I'm not necessarily unattractive. As far as 6/10. What I mean is that on my scale anyone who is 6/10 is "fuckable". If they are not fuckable they are not a 6/10. Its just how my scale works. For the fat girls "gorgeou…
/r/BlackPillScience17/01/19 02:19 PM
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Man that's a lot of reading! Thank you for that. I'll have something to do at work tomorrow haha.
/r/BlackPillScience17/01/19 02:38 AM
1

touche :)
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/19 07:44 PM
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I've dated girls who were physically attracted to me. I've dated girls who weren't. The difference in the relationship is night and day. I would literally rather be single than have the latter. The best thing you can do with a hot chick who settles is have some kids and focus on them. Let her do whatever the fuck she wants (she's going to anyway).
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/19 07:33 PM
4

Those tests can be wildly inaccurate. Often they are trying to sell you a product. They are not going to sell too many "intelligence profiles" after they tell people they are below average.
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/19 07:30 PM
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