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But, you know, hard though it is to believe, even crazy Western women do this more often than you think... Glad someone sees it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:38 PM
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My friend dates a guy who's short. I've never been attracted to tall guys. Women generally date guys who are less attractive than them anyway. No, they don't. I'm glad to see you be fair to both sides ruts. Bravo! Great summary which nails a lot, every example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:36 PM
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you asked if they were morally right. Wrong. Not at all. If you check again, you'd see that my question was about prolonging his life past dignity, and assuming he'd want that. More like Dr. Kevorkian than "reality tv" about cheating. "Cuck" was the least of it, and I wonder why I phrased it like that. But I get that most won't read past "cheating", and if I had spent more time, the situation might have been explained clearer. But to me, this case was what overturned my ideas about cheating, sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:58 PM
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I'm sure he would prefer if she went the "easy" way. It sounds like you are completely ignorant of survival rates in nursing homes, and why home care is better. Hopefully no one's life is depending on your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:51 AM
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This thread was a good writing lesson in how writing "clever & provocative" can backfire, particularly for a "hostile audience". It was also an invaluable insight into understanding RP, a good one. Plus, I really need to stop letting Reddit distract me from writing. But, since you're BP, and might be really interested in truth, I'll repeat some facts about this case (where I replied to others). You didn't see her faithfully attend him for 6 years, raising the kids, and then angst about "moving o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:40 AM
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Yeah. I guess it's easier to not try, and say "never had a chance". That could explain some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:49 AM
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The idea of him watching his wife move in a boyfriend to take his place while he still lives there makes me feel sick to my stomach. Yeah, in your case, that sounds awful. But, there are a lot of details where this isn't like your case. She didn't find someone to replace him. More like the nurse grew into the family. It was never about abandoning him. Anyway, I see this kind of "thought provoking" story too triggering for here. I'd have to waste a lot of time adding details. Plus, it's already p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:47 AM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:40 AM
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Any man would prefer to die in an institution thinking that his wife loved him, but that his state was too much for her as opposed to have his wife betray him right before his eye on a daily basis. Would this same man want his children to lose their school district (ages 11, 13)?? Going from 2 incomes to 1 would mean "moving down", out of the house they grew up in. Just so he could live in an institution. Wouldn't he want his kids to finish growing up in a house? Where do you get this assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:40 AM
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That said the aggressiveness and actual lust in gay male porn turns me on in a more... I don't know. Maybe because it's so intense. I have no desire to insert myself in it. Yeah, me too. But I find a same dynamic in hetereo porn. I have zero desire to join their shenanigans. I just enjoy seeing the lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:43 PM
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Ha, thanks, interesting, enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:32 PM
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Thank you!! You understand. Her husband was addled, and that she had to stop him from destructive action. Like once he heard a nearby church's loudspeaker, and got his wheelchair out into the street. He was rambling, raving, trying to go to that event, but not paying attention to cars or anything. But I don't know if he had a nasty temper. He could have had that, but she hasn't mentioned it. She doesn't go into details much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:22 PM
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Here is essentially what you're saying: she didn't institutionalize him, what more could you possibly ask for? You're saying that not fucking his nurse and moving him in as literal spousal replacement would be too much to expect. It sounds like you never had the cold wind of mortality huff and puff and blow your house down. It's ridiculous to hear the puritan judgy tones of someone who has never been close to that boat. A friend who works at a veteran's hospital told me how most all the male vet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:19 PM
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That drooling mess is a fucking person. That's what makes it doubly hard. If you had made that clear instead of focusing on his sweet sweet disability payments, I might not have been so harsh on her. The picture people got wasn't like the real situation at all. But let's say that I learned from it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:50 AM
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Honestly, I'd say the new guy is more of a cuck than the old guy. That's what I thought too. I can think of too many other jobs I'd prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:44 AM
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You did not say that at all. You said she moved her boyfriend in and he helped. Is he a licenses nurse? was he assigned to her husband? Yes he was the licensed & assigned nurse, which is how they met. It's been that way a long time, and I didn't ask when they started banging. I'd meant to mention it, but forgot. Let's say that I learned on this thread how to better organize a story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:42 AM
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I think this is a stunning endorsement for DnR agreements for older and sick people. But without one, it's a judgement call. If only it was as easy as DNR agreements! She could sign one of those. DNR is clear cut. The harder decisions are where less care, can border on neglect, which might have him fade sooner. How hard do you fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:38 AM
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I think you meant to place it elsewhere. Yes, I got overrun with messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:35 AM
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It always takes months for me to warm up to a man, which is why I only dated friends I knew previously. But one technique I'd use was confidences, see what he does with a small confidence. See how he flirts. Watch if he understands social boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:23 AM
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In your opinion, does she still see her husband as a person? Yes she does, or she wouldn't seek reassurance from me that she's doing the right thing. The story, "he's doing this for his kids" was a way to make him seem more human, when she has to face a drooling mess sometimes. Part of her would rather flee it all & forget. Fuck the house. She & the kids will do alright without it. But it is a benefit, and a "shared project" she can imagine she has with what's left of her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:49 PM
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Actually, not some random dude. The BF was her husband's nurse in charge of his care. I'm sure he has been arranging extra care for free because he lives there now, and wife loves him. But I'm just speculating that this might be a reason her husband has survived longer than expected. I just rattled this thread off, and in hindsight, should have mentioned that part. But I didn't expect this thread to strike a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:44 PM
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She was managing because she chose to bring in her boyfriend rather than spend his disability payments on his care. The BF was hired as the husband's caretaker for years before he started sleeping with the wife. He still gets paid for SOME of the caretaking. But there is a big discount & extras now. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:28 PM
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A nurse would probably be better and more understanding of his needs and condition, therefore, her extra pay would be better. Actually, she hired a nurse, a man who was strong enough physically lift her husband at times. Then she & the nurse fell for each other. But he'd been helping for awhile, and seemed life family. Also, husband can't have sex, doesn't seem interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:24 PM
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This is a fucked up situation that has truly brought out some rage in me, and it has truly hurt me on a deep level. Sorry about that. Believe it or not, I honestly appreciate knowing your position, since it's a morally gray area where she has struggled to know what is "the right thing". But your contribution would be better if you understood better. Also, maybe life isn't as rageworthy if you see thru bad assumptions & illusions. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5im442/q4men_ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:20 PM
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Are you saying that because he didn't die, it's fair that she is forcing him to pay her for taking care of THEIR children? I'm glad you appreciate how morally gray this is. She doesn't know, and does seems best at the time. Despite everyone here being sure "Death is better." It's harder than you think to pull the plug on someone you loved. Summary below. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5im442/q4men_cheating_story_would_you_agree_with_this/dbb80lf/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:17 PM
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If she needs help caring for him, she should hire help, not bring in a lover to do it. He started out as hired help, but then they bonded, fell in love. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5im442/q4men_cheating_story_would_you_agree_with_this/dbb80lf/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:13 PM
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His wife said the vow and everything. I thought " in sickness and in health, until death do us part." was pretty straightforward. She broke it or found a way around or whatever you want to call her hamstering. You realize that the easiest thing for her to have done was to put her husband in institutional care, which usually leads to death within a couple of years. She & the kids were already the inheritors. She could have walked off with his property, the life insurance settlement, and found ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:11 PM
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It's actually part of the "new guy" profession, to care for invalids at home. His expertise is helping the husband's quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:02 PM
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I don't want some creepy guy helping me onto the toilet. Go fuck him; I don't care. Don't have him move in: egads! Ha!! Fair enough. But a lot "home health care" workers are NOT hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:00 PM
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I WOULD want to give my kids every chance. I would be happy giving my former partner every chance also. So personally, I would want that sort of outcome if I had been in the husbands position. Thank you!! I feel the same, and if it had happened to her, she'd want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 04:59 PM
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u/squidracer, u/shoup88, u/darksoldierk, u/idrink2reddit, u/GroovyEFS More facts about this case meaning it's not as bad as you think. The lover had originally been hired to help care for the husband, like physical therpay & helping move 6' husband places like the shower. Husband still has other professional care. But now boyfriend does some for free, or room/board. Studies indicate that home health care extends life, and that patients die relatively quickly once moved to an institution. She cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:48 AM
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OP: What do you think of a man doing this to his disabled wife? It makes a lot of sense, and acceptable as long as it didn't turn cruel. To me, it'd seem like the best arrangement given a horrible situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:15 AM
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Kicking a hive to see what gets stirred up, reactions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:54 AM
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touche :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:51 AM
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I answered the first comment before I went offline for 20 hours. Plus, can you be specific about what you think is hamstering? What's bad do you think I'm rationalizing? I'm not describing my own marriage, just checking thoughts on another.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:14 AM
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Thanks! We can't tell what he wants. We're guessing, which is why I'm asking. It's like he has dementia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:48 AM
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I mentioned it because it was supporting your original statement, but using the term "evolutionary" might have blurred that meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:52 AM
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What I meant is that "Girls can be immature" = / = "Women are generally this way."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:46 AM
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We were both feeling very uninspired, and wanted to "spice up life" during middle age. Beyond the financial incentives for staying together, we're close, great friends, and don't want to break up our team. We just lost that loving feeling, and we're aware enough to realize that life doesn't feel lived if libido is missing. Plus, there's a medical endocrine problem in my husband's case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:45 AM
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That sounds awesome! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:37 AM
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Lower car insurance rates. Plus, I've benefited from male attention when going to parties where I didn't know anyone. Also, socially aware female party organizers give similar benefits, introducing the new person to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:31 AM
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My husband & I have given each other permission to cheat. But neither wants to do it. Yes, that's weird, and why I'm at PPD to sort out. This hits too many buttons. But to me, "cheating" is different from "bad", and that's the real essense of your question. Challenging ideas about bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:28 AM
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Agreed. That's my point too. It's just normal growing up, and not some great evolutionary/cultural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:25 AM
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I've never had a guy tell me he visits prostitutes, so I don't know. What I imagine are escorts and adventures, kinks, and not scary street prostitutes. So it doesn't scream "loser" to me. So I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:24 AM
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Another theory is that Tinder attracts peeps into casual sex, and such peeps are more looks-based. QUOTE From my experiences and observations, it seems to me that people who absolutely love casual sex often: Have a lot of physical turn-ons (as opposed to psychological ones). http://clarissethorn.com/2012/05/18/who-enjoys-casual-sex-anyway/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:19 AM
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Fair point. That's very bad, but "cheating" doesn't seem to be the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:09 AM
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Sounds fun to me. Let me find "Swingers". :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:51 PM
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Look at how many kids majored in psychology in college expecting to get an amazing job. No kidding. God awful. Also, being a lawyer is a terrible bet too. No one warns people. Thank god for Mike Rowe & "Dirty Jobs".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:54 PM
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It's never cheating if the spouse agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:39 PM
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It's all me me right now. Let's take a hypothetical example with that plate who clearly wanted an LTR. If I got injured tomorrow and couldn't lift for a while she wouldn't hesitate to drop me faster than you can snap your fingers. And when I got back to form she would piss on the head of my replacement to get back with me. Women's advice for themselves is about how to tell if someone is capable into growing into "family bond" or not, and not just "snaring" suitable guys. That kind of bond is rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:36 PM
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Who I am doesn't matter. Nobody loves me as I want to be loved, so why should I invest in anyone? You're breaking my heart. The point of LTRs & marriage was never just "provide her with resources", that's what it takes to grow family type bonds where you are deeply loved for who you are, thru thick & thin. One thing our modern society doesn't negotiate well though is that feeling someone is family can sometimes depress desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:29 PM
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The double standard undermines the "dick and pussy equivalence" argument I've heard here. TRP can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:11 PM
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A man with many sexual partners is seen in high regard, while a women sleeping with many men is looked down upon. It is a blatant double standard, however, it makes sense: Men want sex more often than women and with more different partners, so naturally some men are going to lose out. The men who get the sex must be doing something right. As men are mostly ready for sex, women who have many different partners aren't doing anything special, just saying 'yes'. Sex is more of an "accomplishment" fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:11 PM
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The picture seems bigger to me. Both TRP & Tinder show that "dating" seems a lot harder than you'd think these days. Something systemic seems truly fucked up. However, saying that the culprit is "female nature" sounds so Medieval. Yeah! Witches did it. Let's not think about what really causes drought, economic downturns, or truly solve a problem. But I guess beating people up feels better than nothing. What seems a shame is that human brains are great problem solvers if you don't keep them spinn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:01 PM
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I've seen women particularly wonder about their sexuality, whether they're gay or not. Settling on "Aesexual" actually just keeps it simple, and you can change your mind if you run into someone who is attractive. There have been times in my life when I thought I had periodic aesexuality. But it could have just been not knowing how to keep loves fire going or something. Also, it's interesting to Google "Sexual Anorexia", and notice who fits that profile. What's especially interesting is how it'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:50 PM
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It's teenage as fuck but it's also plainly observable. Yeah, I've seen/heard of that behavior in high school particularly. The girl isn't used to sexuality yet, so she acts all offended. She doesn't know how to say "no" politely yet, and worse, doesn't even know her own sexuality. They grow out of it. But yes, it can be tramatic to the guy. Something like that happened to my husband when he was in Jr High or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:35 PM
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I'm looking forward to it also
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:58 AM
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That women are most attracted to men of higher quality than them. And men aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:52 AM
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I laughed at that & other lines. This is saying something, since I think GLO is a dangerous Sith asshole. Crap, finding an enemy funny is annoying, but comes with finding worthy ones. :)
/r/TheRedPill14/12/16 09:29 PM
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:-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 06:02 PM
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but women will interpret individual men completely differently. How many women here know a woman who would fuck Trump??? He's a rich alpha? Right? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:35 AM
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Purple. RP has noticed some things about dating dynamics which society doesn't mentioned. Or rather, male dating advice shines this light in placed where it's needed. But I'm BP about the US court system. Bad divorces happen to everyone, and not a few women end up paying alimony. Reporting spousal abuse will likely count against you in family courts(Lundy Bancroft), plus most marriage counseling is badly set up to protect abused spouses. RP completely overblows the risk of a false rape accusatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:23 AM
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I also pee in the shower standing up TMI, but adds authenticity around here. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:15 AM
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Hey, I'd be mad too and insult other people if I had a big advantage as a woman and I felt entitled to even more of an advantage as a woman. What advantages do you see yourself missing which women have?? Is it something besides sex? Let's say an "average woman", and not super hot. In crime... Minority men have it worst. White collar criminals easiest. In business, it's hard to find reliable studies. My experience is that many men think that women will be forgiven mistakes they wouldn't, which mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:11 AM
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8) Actually women have more road accidents per mile driven. Men constitute the bulk of accidents because more men commute for work Source?? Also, why are teenaged males charged the highest premiums?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:01 AM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:38 PM
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Hell you've probably read more about this shit then me. I don't presume to know more than those who have lived it. I'm here more for research than conversion. Truth must be tested though (debates help there). Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:37 PM
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Who cares? We know its true. You make TRP sound like a Jihad. "We know its true" has justified some of the worst parts of history.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 09:33 PM
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do we not use some form of systematic observation and falsifiable hypotheses to come up with these rules of thumb? no. Succinct & true. :D But human sciences have other ways to verify hypothesis which might fit, empirical qualitative research. Not that I've heard of anyone green lit for an actual science/academic study to verify AF or any of it.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 05:53 AM
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https://youtu.be/fJ9rUzIMcZQ :)
/r/askTRP11/12/16 05:34 AM
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Uh huh... Life must be boring without that sense of mystery. Who would you say is more predictable? Men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:32 AM
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I don't know why you believe it had a scientific source in the manosphere. Because the book "A Billion Wicked Thoughts" implied Evolutionary Adaptionist theories came about from a "scientific" thinker. Steven Pinker and Donald Symons were mentioned. But although I recognized attempts to prove AFBB, the original theorist wasn't attributed. "A Billion Wicked Thoughts" made a semi-credible try at proving Evo Adaptionists theories from porn/erotical usage, a "big data", "unstructured data" analysis …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:29 AM
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Sex studies in general too.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 05:18 AM
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The post-fact world. Ha!! True. At least that phrase is easier to understand than Post Modern.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:17 AM
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By sole virtue of his personality: 100% Ugly-But-Hot. Does Louis CK count as an example? He's freaking nuclear hot. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:47 AM
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Thanks for the reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:45 AM
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Hmmm. Thanks? :) It's really hard to read parts of RP. I only remembered SS because it was a puzzle, which didn't make real sense. So I was curious. But even as a metaphor, SS seems to be an article of faith. Asking me to "back up" proof concerning SS seemed as ridiculous as proving that I'm not lying about never having met the tooth fairy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:44 AM
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we should think harder about why we assume so little of men, including ones we may be married to. Too many men don’t prove those expectations wrong, and are rewarded anyway with prizes like the presidency. The author says feminists don't hate men yet here she is doing exactly that. As she is here degrading men. Actually she's arguing against "expecting so little" from men, which is different from hate. Plus, are you saying Feminist voted for Trump? The article describes attitudes from women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:22 AM
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Has RP helped you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:10 AM
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Much obliged!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:08 AM
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Ha! But this is just more evidence that TRP is rooted in myths, the bad kind of myths which blur fact. Also, the bible has shit for role models for girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 02:26 AM
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Hehe, for me it's a Small City In Germany thing. Well, I'm glad. It sounds entertaining at least. I wonder what the birth rate is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:09 AM
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Self-improvement after 24 for a sexually unlucky man is like trying to sneak in after the feast and lick the crumbs. What a Pollyanna... Glad you don't get too caught up in cynicism. I hope your Xmas is going better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 01:08 AM
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Hmm, good answer. But I still think it's fiction. Fun fiction though. Better than illuminati.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:56 AM
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I guess you're implying that my friends and I wouldn't qualify?? But if I responded to that, I'd be dignifying a BS premise. I've known some SPN groupies, etc... (not long) I've seen cliques, scenes, which might look like a SS. But they're very local, and not widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:54 AM
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If she is obsessed over you not paying instead of being excited about just being with you she doesn't like you. Wow, hard to imagine anyone getting weird about paying for their own coffee. In a lot of circles, that's social suicide. Sometimes I wonder if TRP doesn't encourage paranoia by focusing too much on weird outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:50 AM
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She then told me she had dumped me not because of my then-orientation but because of some unresolved issues with her ex. I still refused to get back to her, and she threw a ridiculous fit Good lord. This reminds me of a woman I knew who dated a man who was in the closet, who really was gay, but in denial, and determined to be straight. That's hell on his girlfriend who is constantly told that her perceptions are wrong, and he really does love her, but doesn't want to make love because.... whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:27 AM
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I don't think TRP would exist if it was as easy as "women love value", because if it was, then women would be more predictable than they are. Both Pook & Mark Manson said that women become sexually attracted to honest masculine sexual vibes. Didn't RT score the most when he was an unemployed musician?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:19 AM
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who snatch a concept out of the RP ether, miss the details, edgelord the fuck outta it, You got to admit, TRP is easy to misunderstand. I've did more than my fair share of reading, and I know I still don't get a lot of it. But at this point, I don't think it's worth the investment, not for my circumstances. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:15 AM
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I can never tell by picture alone. There has to be some connection vibe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:12 AM
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Now it's just society is failing cuz women are shit. Ha! lol. Sometimes it does sound a bit like chicken little.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:47 PM
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Many attractive women never see this Secret Society either. sweet words, kind of doubt you have anything to back it up Occam's Razor. The existence of Tyler Durden's "Secret Society" would require an absurd secret keeping generation upon generation. When did SS start? The sixties? Millenials? Just in the Western world? How about Haiti? The Sudan? China? Calcutta? Even if it is just first world, would it have secret codes? Wouldn't it require unusual discipline from all women, including big flake…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:44 PM
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:-)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:34 PM
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But I want to know what could possibly be going through her mind. Receiving oral isn't a "pump & dump". Some women don't like that score. A lot of women like to feel something for the guy, or don't like casual sex.
/r/askTRP09/12/16 03:32 AM
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Why do I only want her when she rejects me ? Maybe it's a power trip? Or another flavor of how no one likes rejection? What's important is that you don't want to. So stop.
/r/askTRP09/12/16 03:30 AM
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I didn't see her in class and the teacher made an announcement that our final meeting If you are going to see her again elsewhere, I'd think about telling her, "I get it, you don't want to go out. But don't you think it was overkill to cut off all contact? We're grown up enough to not have to play "avoid one another". " This isn't TRP dating advice, a little old fashioned. But worth reminding you that you have rights, and didn't do anything wrong.
/r/askTRP09/12/16 03:25 AM
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Good job. An awkward date rejection is a rite of passage nowadays. Good to get that out of the way before you get out of school. :) You are developing psychological muscles & "counting coup". 'oh I should let her know class is canceled.' She gives a short answer. Then un-follows me. That was actually good, low-key damage control follow-up, and her response was harsh. You don't have to take it personal or decide all women are crazy. Most young women don't start out harsh, but they sometimes find …
/r/askTRP09/12/16 03:02 AM
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We call it the "secret club". Either you are in it and know about the hooking up or you aren't. If you are in the club, women tell you about their hookups. If you are not in the club, they don't and hide it from you. Is this similar to Tyler Durden's "Secret Society" post?? This SS behavior among women you both describe can also be described as "cliques". Many attractive women never see this Secret Society either. Maybe it's an LA thing. Also, it's not "hiding", or the public's business to know …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:07 PM
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Now look... the whole thing has devolved to "women are all hypergamous sluts who cause all my problems in life and are ruining society." To be fair, TRP inception post links to RT's "schedules of mating", which sounds exactly like women are wired to be hypergamous sluts. So apparently, the difference between 1.0 and 2.0 isn't treatment of women, but whether the man is self-improving? Or bemoaning fate? Actually, I appreciate MGTOW better now because of RT's "Bitter Taste of TRP" has this quote. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:35 AM
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I also see such women as weak and needy. Yeah, it's hard not to see it that way. Not my cup of tea. Gross. But it's a big world, and as long as both are consenting adults. It might just be a phase or fantasy. If not, hopefully they won't be too extreme in front of their kids, or be childless. If they break up, hopefully neither feels used.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:07 AM
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A lot of my acting and writing is informed by my experience with women and sex drive. Creative sources are always interesting to me, not the least since "sex" attraction seemed like a waste of time to me growing up. It just made my mind wander when I was trying to focus elsewhere. :D Creative work.... That takes a special kind of tough - heart tough. An actor or writer pours their heart into some creative work, something sensitive, yet it's exposed to the cruelest of criticisms. It's a case wher…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 11:34 PM
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Can anyone explain what is Sphere 1.0?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:19 PM
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Ha! Well you should definitely risk dramatic relationships if you're in the entertainment industry. That's too rich a creative fuel to miss, especially if that's your calling and career path. I forgot the studies which said high sex drive individuals are extra productive.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 04:02 AM
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I'm probably never going to throw away my materialistic values though unless I guess something really drastic happens Good. Have integrity & awareness. Never fake that shit. :) It's normal psychological development of productive, worthwhile people. Also, there are competitive, not-spiritual Yoga classes. Not sure if they avoid meanness too. Even many spiritual types take pride in their bodies push for their personal best. But compassion as one of the Buddha's Nobel Virtues does influence at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:58 AM
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Sometimes you have to test yourself, or you don't know your own strength, limited, less rich. As I've gotten older, I've noticed that it's the "never tried" which stings more over the years, as opposed to "tried & failed".
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 02:48 AM
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Creative. :) Sounds like your mind is detoxing from bad TV. Glad you escaped while you could still think constructively. But seriously, some forms of TV will rot your brain. Reality TV created Paris Hilton. Doesn't that tell you everything? You think something good will come of letting your head stew inside Frankenstien's butt?
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 02:38 AM
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all attributed to testosterone. Does anyone in the manosphere ever mention that high T men are just more fertile? High natural testosterone means high sperm count. Low-T means lower sperm count (BB?). Testosterone is what tells the testes to create sperm. If fertility is attractive for men, then wouldn't male fertility alone be attractive for women who value children so highly? So physical signs of high-T would be attractive to females, not just to women, but across many species. The modern fert…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 02:18 AM
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Yeah. I heard that PPD was a place for weird fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:43 AM
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Hmmm. It depends on how "unattractive" the guy is. You have a point that fucking a screw up would be more embarrassing than just being sleezy in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:42 AM
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Aww man. Yeah, I do believe it actually. Nancy Friday & other authors talk about such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:36 AM
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Ouch. Bummer. I don't know if it's better or worse to have fought and "lost"(?). To me, just having got off my ass and fought always is more satisfying. It's more painful to never try. I noticed when I was a kid, I always felt better if I landed a punch or fought back. Not that I went looking for fights, but I had 2+ brothers, and despite what my parents said, I'd get stomped if I didn't fight back. Nothing worse than just taking it. Back in the sixties, kids were allowed to run more wild than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:34 AM
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Why does seemingly nobody think of romantic reasons as an answer to "why do many men have problems with a high n-count / her sexual past" and instead think of insecurity, jealousy and whatnot first and exclusively? Because he spends most of his time trying to bang sluts?? Or trick a woman in an LTR into banging him. They seem to spend too much time describing how to push normal women into acting slutty. There are confusing contradictions between what they say they want, and their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:02 AM
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:D I actually had thrills similar to reading homoerotic slash fiction even asking that riddle. Your near-obnoxious bravado is masculine. But your sensible(?) reply wasn't angsty enough for those kind of thrills. However, it does sound like good "spring break" type fun. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:55 AM
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Exactly. Because they're unattractive. Also, because she'd risk slut shaming if she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:46 AM
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To women, an "average" man is a man she notices sexually, though she probably wouldn't have sex with him. Argh! Brilliant about "average", but with that blind spot difference between sexes. Guys seem to notice most women sexually. Women notice a lot about a guy before sexuality even registers, could be months. Sexuality isn't as core to her experience of self as a guy, also less testosterone. He is educated, has a bachelor's degree and a decent job, is self sufficient financially Just FYI. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:45 AM
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dude. No. Its still gay. Ha! Let me have fun by posing a riddle. Would it still be "bad gay" if you let yourself get sucked by a dude because it turned a woman on?? She's semi-naked and jilling off in front of you as she watches you get blown. But she's saving herself for her future husband, so you can't boink yet (at least not yet). I realize that this might be considered "female entitlement" too. But that doesn't mean that it can't be mind-expanding fun, or at least try to make lemonade out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:29 PM
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Other sources don't suck dick. What sort of validation can other sources provide that can feel as good as getting my dick sucked? +1 Both my husband & I lol'ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:23 PM
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I wasn't arguing for financial dependence. But men/women have more to offer each other than just money. In some way, he has to see that he can do good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:15 AM
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That is a logical deduction. But here's my rebuttal. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5f6kps/if_not_trppua_then_what/dallgmh/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:10 AM
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I think like 85% of the reason I would go there would still be the women and 15% that I actually would like to try it out due to it's potential benefits. Self awareness and honesty are good. But to be clear, you don't have to be 100%. Just 15% and "open" in the sense of not critical of others, and respecting their practice. Just respecting having a meditation practice is a point of commonality. RT talks about his yin/yang ring. He didn't believe it, but women were curious about him because of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:06 AM
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I'm curious about where you saw these Yoga classes. I've seen the mix before, but I didn't see the women thinking "creep".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 03:01 AM
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Is this something that you and other women together have discussed and with several women from your yoga class for example and have agreed that you'd find that attractive and not creepy? I have a lot of thoughts on that, if you can bear with. I wish Mark Manson would publish his tips on his experiences with Yoga class. But each Yoga class is so different, you should check out a few of them. Only stay where you feel comfortable. A gym like a dating "meat market" will offer a much different enviro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:54 AM
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When men's attitudes get worse, it's because the field has gotten worse. RP complaints about dating are confusing as hell, contradictory. In some ways, the dating market is now better than ever for men, with NSA sex available to most, if they'll pursue it. Less pressure than ever for relationships or marriage. It seems so "first world problems" that there aren't enough good looking women, or too much starfish sex. Back in the nineties, I read on of Warren Farrell's first books, and the harem & "…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 01:30 AM
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This is a problem for both men and women, and simply doubling down on tribalism and gender wars is not the answer. Applause
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:12 AM
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I seriously, seriously do not care anymore what happens. I don't care about anything. Ha, ironic if that's a BP/RP commonality. Like "bad days" even some in BP have that mentality too. No kids leaves little investment in civilization, which shouldn't be anyone's burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:03 AM
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John Gray (Venus/Mars) had an opinion on this, in his book on Mars/Venus on a date. He said guys feel purpose if a woman needs them, and self-suffiicent women are less attractive since she can't give him purpose and a place to shine, and be appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:01 PM
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Women also withhold sex when they lose an argument, no matter how "strong" they are. That can happen, and it's crappy shit. But if that kind of mood last long, something is already wrong. Plus it's not evidence that women are more evil than the rest of the human race. But this is also a difference between the sexes, that I've read about(Jack Morin). Women take longer to recover from arguments. You were just "hating" on each other, verbal blows, if not physicial.. So she doesn't feel sexual at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:58 PM
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I originally said I'd list examples where women loved men in the Bible. Also, I don't agree with David & Bathsheba. David felt lust, not love, completely different. Maybe he felt love later, but that's not what he felt at beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:42 PM
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I think "adorkable" would be easier, plus many women find it charming. Women like to feel they can add value too. Plus I have never seen any man thought of as a creep in a Yoga class. Most people are too busy focusing on the Yoga, which takes concentration. In fact, if you're really doing Yoga, you can't be all tense with fear. It's the mind/body connection, like how laughter lifts depression, or dancing. Yoga embodies relaxed mastery, acceptance, and the exact opposite of tense fear. Male yoga …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:39 PM
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Ye tbh I would love to go try yoga out, but I'd definitely be wondering if girls will think I'm a creep or a gay guy for showing up there. This is where guy thinking is so incomprehensible to me. Women will assume that you are interested in Yoga rather than sex, because that's how women operate. This is where your cerebral self can play to your favor. "Creep" will have a hard time sticking to you if you sound knowledgable about Yoga, and why it's useful, flexibility, extra energy. You'll sound l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:27 PM
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Ruth was respectful and devoted to Boaz and her mother in law. Esther helped her husband, and others. The new testament is full of good wives, particularly in Acts, and St Paul's epistles. The Song of Solomon had a woman's love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:22 AM
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Mentor can be a verb, and not that heavy. But it's just giving a heads up, or showing someone the ropes ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:19 AM
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I'm all for guys lifting. But I wish more guys would join all the excess women in Yoga class. Their life energy is all stimulated there. Mark Manson said Yoga class was one of the best places to meet women. I've been a woman in those communities, and know they check the few guys out who share their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:16 AM
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Today's dating scene sounds awful, so maybe time for unusual strategies. A lot of people have found OM meditations strangely liberating. It's not a date, but it breaks the ice, is sexual, and good for the soul. Maybe there is an OM community in your city. Good luck. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5dkh84/sexual_strategy_for_nondominant_men_feminist/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:39 AM
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Just an idea... Rather than judging, you could give warn your 16 yr old sister what is going on, and what is likely to happen. You can at least tell her that she gives her BF's permission to insult her & her family when she lets them act that way toward you. Like most snotty teenagers, it's unlikely she'll be grateful. Probably snide. But when she starts "growing up", "waking up", it'll dawn on her that her brother warned her. That's he's someone who knows more than she does, and mentored. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:34 AM
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I really was a big sucker. Bad enough to make mistakes in life without shit advice making it worse. Thanks for inspiring me to get off this thread, and go enjoy cuddle time with my husband after dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:47 AM
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Some women love men in the bible but in no part of it is a wife's love treated as the norm or something to be expected. Where do guys love women in the bible? I could answer that, but wonder if anyone remembers functional relationships in the Bible. I gave up on bible relationship advice after Lot and his daughters. What's really whack is that he offered them to be raped & killed earlier in the story. I can't help think that the writer was covering for Lot. How could Lot not know who the father …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:44 AM
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THIS is what I see. I see girls who are late 20ish or early 30ish who are with their boyfriends. Normal guys. Not Chad. The same guys the early 20s version of themselves would be calling a loser or a fake nice guy or a doormat while she blew five Chads in a row in one week. That's what drives guys to The Red Pill. It sounds like you are getting angry over something imaginary. Focus on what you see (reality), and not what you've been told (theory). What did you see? I see girls who are late 20ish…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 01:34 AM
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with Hotep as a flavor Crap - I thought you meant the movie. Weird mental images for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:46 PM
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TRP is emblematic of a very contemporary issue; people hang around on the Internet, develop ill-founded beliefs, have those beliefs reflected back to them by others, and ultimately have their lives profoundly changed by this. I've been reading how this trend really transformed America's recent election too. The old media gatekeepers aren't vetting information anymore, and the consequences are getting worse. So I guess RPers like Nietzsche's 'will to power'. Which is not surprising because this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:42 PM
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Men just want to know how to screw chicks and many women have no idea because they are not out jumping on random dicks, don't care about it, and don't really have than many friends who jumps on random dicks. Yep. Good summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:53 PM
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I think it's disingenuous to say women have never before gotten together and rated/sexualized men like pieces of meat. This is where I hesitate to use the word "sexualized", because I think each gender hears a different meaning for that word. I was in the Supernatural(SPN) fandom, where SPN fangirls are intently lust focused. But it's never about turning the men into meat for them. The man's character is a key point of attraction to them, removing it would remove the attraction. It completely la…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 06:27 PM
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I think it's disingenuous to say women have never before gotten together and rated/sexualized men like pieces of meat. Ha! Really? When you've seen women talk together, have you seen them try to put numerical scores on anything, let alone relationships? Or, look at all the kinkster blogs by women, talking about sex. Are they rating, talking about men like meat, or instead, discussing how to create good experiences, and avoid bad ones? But on a planet with billions, I won't argue that some women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 06:09 PM
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Before bringing it up was cool, so to say. ; ) Hah! Actually, I just thought it sounded like a really interesting discussion which I wanted to read. I thought that asking you for an old link might be least burdensome for you. But I didn't think it thru. Glad to know I have cool interests though. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 06:04 PM
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The first article is trying to define masculinity for me through insults I can see why you'd think that, but it's sad for me to hear you say that. To me, that article is telling women how to make the most of a potentially great "sex opportunity". She has a guy willing to go to lengths to help her actually achieve orgasm. But it's not working, she's not sure why. Oh, it's because it became an achievement goal, and lost the sense of play & that we're really paying attention to what each other is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:55 PM
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I guess you have to start a new thread then. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:24 AM
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Oh crap! I can't find that link anymore. Oh well. Here's one about guys & sex. Could be fun. :D http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/focusing-on-her-pleasure/ This link below blew me away today, relatively easy to read, while referring to Neitzche. But it doesn't go into "internalize misogyny" in regards to dating. https://bostonreview.net/forum/kate-manne-logic-misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:23 AM
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men want sex and women want good sex. Ha!! That's the gap people don't see. "Good at sex" beats attractive for many women. But she can't even get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:55 AM
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No need. I forget it's not a party. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:13 AM
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I hear more and more women complain that their boyfriends have little interest in sex. And I am talking about guys in their 20s. I have never heard a woman complain about men wanting too much sex on the other hand. The scope of it is frightening, but it doesn't really surprise me. There's a lot of possible reasons. I'm curious abut "possible reasons". Do u have a link for 2 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:08 AM
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u/Ignorecomments say how you really feel. Quit pussy-footing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:29 AM
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feminism inherently stems from a deep hatred of women, from within women themselves. Dude - I could link you to a radFem sites which say that too. From the beginning, most Feminists knew about their internal sense of women hatred. In that, they are more self aware then their critics who don't realize their woman hate, or argue that women hate is justified. Also, it's not like men don't hate themselves inside either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:09 AM
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And it's not like finding fathers can't say nonsense. THey are just humans. Now you sound like a psycho or a clown. The Founder Fathers & Declaration of Independence are nonsense!!?? Nope. I only said that the Founding Fathers might not be good at dating advice. But to hell with dating and the human race if human beings aren't worth more than breeding animals or slaves. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:03 AM
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Cynicism is how we desperately try to keep the illusions 'real' and still relevant. I may not like what I see after I've seen through an illusion, but at least I know I'm dealing with 'reality' in the aftermath, and that gives me a sense of power and purpose. Ha! I totally agree (ITA). Nice to see another awake one. B-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:00 AM
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How is that misogynist? Those women envy the shit out of SAHMs... Ha! I agree about that UMC perspective. I have not only seen it myself, but felt it myself, "Lucky her". :-) But I was talking about a different type of woman I've met thru the years, particularly in Supernatural fandom. Career women little interested in dating or motherhood. I think that the feminist theory is correct, that it's due to "internalized misogyny", where on some level, she knows she's superior to other women who are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 11:58 PM
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What I'm trying to get you to understand is that the victim is not the child... er woman in these cases. Ah! To be clear, we should be specific we're only talking about sexual assaults on those older than 18. Children reporting rape is a different issue. :-P in 2012, there were 346,830 reported rapes or sexual assaults of persons 12 years or older. Also, it's not a feminist media brainwash that women make up rape. Actually, it's a ancient attitude, and it comes across as women hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:57 PM
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Careers are built, but require a lot to maintain. Financial stability is often an elusive, if attainable at all, goal. The new economy deserves a lot of blame, the need for 2 incomes in a good school district. I've known long-married couples with the best of intentions can't conceive once the nest is built. But early retirement isn't a bad fate. Also... Misogyny is more to blame than Feminism, imo. It's not fair, but Lawyer or most professions are higher status than mother, particularly if you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:11 AM
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I was a voracious theological student growing up (I read the Bible - all of it - a lot when I was a kid) Ha!! Absorbing work - isn't it? Particularly for the young. I would argue all that 'idealism' (even if it is represented as 'cynicism' or 'nihilism') is the single greatest hurdle any man who wants to truly become successful is going to have to clear. As I got older, I began to prefer disillusionment. Illusions were what was in the way of being effective. The trick is update information witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:46 PM
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I wish I had more time. :D Would you be interested in hearing a possible Jungian version on "hypergamy"?? Not mystical weird Jung, but his thermodynamic vision of mind vs hindbrain (his essay "On Psychic Energy")? You could Google Jung's lexicon phrase "Self Regulation of Psyche" for a preview. I'm in the midst of translating some of his ideas into pop language (I hope). Not self development, but Jung's ideas on how Christian myth stories shaped inherent human drives like mysticism into science.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:38 AM
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Why is she only hooking up with athletes and fraternity bros? Why are any engineers or more intelligent members of the duke student population present? Don't give her ideas. Does this hold any real merit as an academic publication? No, but it's brilliant commentary, maybe in the league of Jonathan Swift. She puts the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. Guys sexualized like pieces of meat, with number rankings. What are your thoughts on this woman? Is she representative of most women who party a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:15 AM
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Now you done it. Somehow checking for your posts... I think I'm finally getting TRP. Well, TRP can't be worse on my sanity than Jung's collected works, which I think is as close to a real "Necronomicon" book as possible. I still think Evo Psych is like the historical version of "Astrology" or "Alchemy". Those disciplines led to science eventually. So, kernel of truth despite being mostly projection. I notice manosphere is into Nietzche. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:51 AM
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Fair enough, I'll concede SMP value has zip to do with "inherent worth". But you sure make TRP look dangerous when you sound like you disagree with US Founding Fathers, like Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, ....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:51 PM
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Seconded!! It painted a picture for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:33 AM
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I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying your threads & thoughts these days. :D Lovely!! My own thoughts & reactions, plus challenges. Tally Ho in case you get banned. Actually, it'll be easier for me to quit spending too much time in PPD if you aren't here. :-P Good nite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:25 AM
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There was just no way she could actually love me as deeply as she said she did but not desire me also. Damn... This convo gets too interesting. I end up overthinking, I think. Thanks for clarifying "men's" ideas of sex & respect. ITA that the genders are so different in critical ways. Men can't have it both ways - they can be a childlike figure whom their wives love and take care of but don't want to fuck, or they can be the strong, powerful figure that commands their wives' respect and inspires…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:50 AM
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It's like the worst locker-room in the world, with none of the athletic ability. That was funny. Good post. Informative. I really like how OP's language goes from delicate precision to "no punched pulled" "unvarnished truth". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:15 AM
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How about the fact that they have the power to permanently ruin a guys life with no drawback to themself? No drawback? The movie "The Accused" wasn't BS. Or Steubenville?? Rape shaming is uglier than slut shaming. Do you really expect me to believe you are that blind? Or, as "Bitchy Jones" would say, "you willfully ignorant fucktard"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:10 AM
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When I think "successful", I think about career and socially too. Some of the most acclaimed player types seem broke, like Rationale Male's "YaReally", or on forums I browsed. Not that RP is only PUA types, but with PUA there's a pronounced pattern of broke but successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:40 AM
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I can't imagine what it's like for a man to discover.... His wife was cheating. Betrayal + All the Lies+ primal validation lost. He help raised the cuckholder's kid. OMG - This child I loved might not be related to me biologically. Horrible. I actually don't take it for granted. But where any "man" loses sympathy and my support is when he throws children under a bus. It's an adult thing. Adults understand that hurt feelings aren't justification for taking it out on kids. Women who throw children…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:23 AM
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EDIT: And, as I've said before, there is no one on the planet whom I love and treat with greater respect than my son. Women wish I treated them with even half as love and respect as I treat him, lol... Beautiful!! Quit the warm fuzzies. :) I'm new to Reddit ffs. I feel so bad for some of the husbands. Ouch. I've said some things to my husband I regret, and he to me. We're age ~52. Women & men can have different mental images for what respect looks like, and getting on the same page can take awhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:45 AM
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I know what you meant. But I'm not sure which door you're talking about. These aren't necessarily hot women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:33 AM
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Who is this? I'm Batman. I enjoy goofing around. Plus never enough stress relief at PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:04 AM
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Women are more explorative after they move from reactive to proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:02 AM
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You do know this is all fiction right? Of course! Damn! You just ruined my head's angsty, hurt/comfort fan fiction story about you. You were supposed to go along with the story, but ruined it. You just don't get it, do you? :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:23 AM
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it is more important than ever now that I'm a father. I have a kid who needs a guy like that watching his back. :) It's so good to hear from a guy who takes that seriously. It does more good than you know. Everyone talks about PPD that way, lol. I've been trying to quit PPD for years now... Yikes!!! I'm bolting for a few days. :-S It's too fun, yet I've got other things piling up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:10 AM
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Oh good grief! What a story! Thanks for typing it. First, conception after a one shot? I know infertile guys who'd love to be you. She got up, and with tears in her eyes, said, "I miss talking to you." Sorry you both went thru that, even if it did finally get you both open to change & healing. Spouses are most likely to see the worst side of each other. Believe it or not, myself & other wives forget our hubbie is NOT indestructible. I've been quite taken aback & horrified when he told me how it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:06 AM
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Ah... You might be immune to toxic elements of the culture. Yes, child-like is powerful. It's OK that it helps some. But those fighting DV says it encourages destructive tendencies guys they're trying to teach better way. So it's hard for me to hand waive that. is the go-to statement when women want to insult, denigrate, humiliate, shame, and otherwise try to control men. Good grief. I'm glad I don't hang there. My girl friends aren't like that, but lots of different types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:26 AM
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I'm into really intimate sex with a slow burn Me too! I know of two satisfied customers. B-) I posted advice on how to connect with OM communities. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5dkh84/sexual_strategy_for_nondominant_men_feminist/da6bz1k/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:23 AM
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Ha! That's a BS test for me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:21 AM
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Men who tend to side with women(when they do it because they are women) over their fellow males always tend to sabotage themselves in life Ouch! So I'm learning here. They want to undermine what men tell other men without giving anything real, so they spit "feel good" sentiments I can't say "no", since I'm not in those women's heads. But I think a lot women have trouble understanding male perspective, just like visa versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:21 AM
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Its more like the guy is offering free OBYN service than a sex party. But helping women cum with fingerwork is still a solid skill anywhere you go, even if you practiced on someone you weren't dating. I haven't seen a better place for a guy to be welcomed doing something sexual so quickly, if he can be cool with keeping his pants on, and focus on just helping her. Of course he's welcomed. Forgive the analogy, but it's like an all-volunteer porn set, and he is just "fluffing" the woman, not bangi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:07 AM
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people who don't do well in the mainstream SMP no offense. I wouldn't want to practice on Prince Charming. Maybe some guys don't mind practice time with someone else, rather than the HB8 they're invested in. But seriously, hipsters, divorced people, all sorts join these groups for a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:57 AM
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It seems that when talking to men these women only want to protect your feelings and ego, but with other women they can actually deliver a message that promotes success Many women don't feel comfortable telling men how to be men. Plus, in general, women will avoid sounding harsh if she can, unless she's in some mean girl group. Why is it the woman's responsibility anyway? I don't argue it's frustrating for a guy wanting guidance in his sex life. But it's not like women prioritize their own sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:46 AM
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Ick!! Abortion arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:39 AM
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What's really funny about you dudes is you say women's work is easy. But when it comes to you guys taking some guy's junk inside you, you run the other way. Why do you say getting cock pounded is so easy, when none of you volunteer?? What you say is that it's easy, how you act is that you can't get away from another guy's junk fast enough. Very suspicious. Plus there's the social aspect. Say you are somebody's wife, and they then his boss gropes you, and tries to seduce you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:36 AM
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I used to be in a catholic school, and have been told oral and anal never counted as sex LOL! Ha! So are you on the Sodomy God's team still? BTW - Are you still friends with that priest? Is it awkward to look him in the eye after you had his junk inside you?? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:28 AM
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Your "self-esteem" is what you think your value is if the market only consisted of you. I don't see why "self-esteem" can't be separate from sex market value. But nevermind. No argument that if I was interested in dating, then there's a "market value". No news there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:12 AM
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This seems like a cousin of tantra. I've read some, but don't really have a handle on it. OM is more like "training wheels". But OM grew out of the Moorehouse community in SF Bay area, which I'm sure had Tantric practitioners, "yoni massage" experts, and all sorts in California. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:08 AM
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Haha that's called blue clit. Oh, I'm glad to learn new vocabulary. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:04 AM
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OM For Women - Nicole’s “4 month orgasm” Detox Like me, the women who join the OM communities are looking for men who will help us follow Nicole’s “4 month” detox program to “unfreeze”. The guys are willing to be “OBYN technicians”. The idea is that some women are too much into their heads, and too little aware of their own hindbrain and body. It doesn’t help that pussies aren’t easy to figure out. She can’t even see it. Plus she might have had “good girl” training to focus on everything & every…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:03 AM
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I do agree that a woman can be frozen, and a 'proper' orgasm can unleash her 'true' self. Ha!! Exactly my experience too. Do you think a dominant man can unfreeze a woman's nature without this technique? IDK. I'm allergic to D/S myself, so I'm not sure of the women who are attracted to that. Some submissive women are super aware, and don't need OM. But if a dominant guy wants to try OM to "level up" learning more how women are wired.... He can practice his mastery of different parts of dominance…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:38 PM
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OneTaste workshops in particular sound expensive. This all comes across as essentially a scam Best Dollar OM Training I don’t want to add to all the scams on the internet, so here’s what I learned about “worth it” OM training. The OM site has demos worth looking at, but if you sign up, you will get emails trying to sell you expensive training. The most valuable thing to get from the trainer is an introduction to your local OM group, usually some Facebook secret group. If your city doesn’t have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:24 PM
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Unless the men are really, truly genuine, they'll be seen as grade-A creeps for trying this shit. No. Not at all. There's very little social to it. It's more like an “amateur” OBYN appointment than a secret sex society, but it's really both. If a guy has a "laid back" work face, that's all you need here. The wanted vibe from a guy is like a work professional, "No worries. It's technical. I got it." Comfortable, not comfort. You're not obligated to do anything except follow the OM script.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:06 PM
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I understood the OP as saying there are ways to immensely satisfy women with a passive approach. Yes!! Exactly! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:34 PM
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Are you wondering if Nicole is legit? She gets a lot of press, and women reporters try it. Over a million views TED talk. I'm sure you know more than me about a lot of women's sexual response. But Nicole's view on "climax" vs "orgasm" is worth hearing. There's neuroscience & decades of private research behind it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:32 PM
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one of the top 5000 fastest-growing companies (INC Magazine). Another magazine article; it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:00 PM
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Women aren't attracted to that. When they want NSA sex Actually many women are, because it doesn't have "sex baggage", since no cock involved. But some guys are happy to go with it, since they quickly get to spend 15 minutes on making a woman happy intimately, with low social overhead. I hear that the guy learns a lot without his own climax getting in the way of coaxing hers. He feels heat pulses down there, her clit hardening and soften, twitches, climaxes, sweating, moaning, she might melt on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:16 AM
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i honestly find it more rare for women to explore a males body. the just stick it in That makes sense because the woman's sexuality is reactive-only. Nicole's theory is that this is because the woman's desire is in a frozen state. Proactiveness from her own lust is impossible since she's not connected internally, frozen. Unfortunately she's still hungry, and the hunger is mostly filled vicariously, and not in a deep or satisfying way. Nicole's book is mind-blowing about how sensuous women get on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:00 AM
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It's online community is a place where "strokers" & "strokees" agree to meet to try OM together. The classes & community screens the guys & women. It's not a date, coffee or otherwise. The classes teach appropriate things to say to one another, which might be helpful for a shy guy, since talk isn't encouraged. What she moans doesn't count. Also, just focusing on a task & not being social is probably helpful for a shy guy. It's a joint meditation, not traditional sex at all, which means she is mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:45 AM
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but they are just interested/relieved to be playing a different game in the moment. I get what you're saying about your wife. I understand that too, it's a different experience to engage without the "would fuck if could" vibes dominating. :) most people get wrong about RPs advocation of 'dominance and control' is that they see 'control' as 'controlling' (and 'dominance' as 'domineering'), when, in fact, it's the opposite. I'm glad to see the enlightened ones who know the difference. But many in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:40 AM
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So when a woman would pull a LMR, that was my opportunity to bolt! Yay! "Yes, we totally should not be having sex. I should go. Bye!" Which, of course, never, ever worked the way I was hoping it would, lol. Your stories are terribly interesting. lol. :D Hmmm. My BS detector didn't go off, plus real life is that unexpected. Thanks for being real. It inspired me to talk a bit more about possibly interesting personal stuff. I see why Reddit can be such a time sink. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:33 AM
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A nerdy, accepting, technically competent community like Nicole Daedone's. I started a thread, just in case, since it's different. My ideal is something which works with people as they really are, and not wish for impossible ideals. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5dkh84/sexual_strategy_for_nondominant_men_feminist/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:23 AM
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:( Uh... Yeah, that kind of thing can be rough. Plus, there's no more stressful event than a broken marriage, emotionally, financially, in every way. To be clear online, yes/no - are you referring to infertility?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:42 AM
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Older women have less to offer on almost every level, but they respond by raising their standards. Very counterintuitive. Once children are off the table, there's no reason to "settle". She doesn't need a relationship to just retire. She might seem irritable as she processes that she's not going to start a family. Kids require more than sex or dating. Shitty relationships won't do for a decently happy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:37 AM
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I like and am attracted to men who are like my father. That's why I gave up on relationships & sex, except for fiction. My husband convinced me otherwise though. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:34 AM
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Value is a supply-demand thing. It's defined by the market/society/others, not by you. Only for commodities like crude oil or wheat. Society isn't shaming you for your dating tastes, but for the bad manners of talking about people as if they were pork belly futures. You might even get a pass for this, if you added, "just venting", and not sound like you take it seriously. Talking about people's value like that became unacceptable after slavery ended. Oh wait, it was OK in Nazi Germany for awhile…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:20 AM
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I don't agree with a lot of RT's conclusions. Oddly though I'm glad he at least talked about fatherhood. This excerpt was worth saying. Lean too far toward Alpha dominance and you become the asshole abuser who domineered poor mom while she was growing up. Lean too far to the Beta, permissive, passive and feminine side of the spectrum and the future men in her life will be colored by your deferring to the feminine as authority – thus placing her in the role of having to create the security she ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:34 AM
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Perfect! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:31 AM
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The great tragedy of this ‘education’ is that it teaches women to empower themselves to find some life satisfaction as a result of their independence from men, but yet they can’t get around the want to find happiness with men. A lot of my fellow career women see non-dependence/independence as a good thing. Dependence gets in the way of desire or love. Dependence motivates faking. Of course women want men, and not just for their wallets & providing. Women who feel safe from depowerment are more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:26 AM
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Looks are a part of a person. Makes no sense. "Objectification" means a pretty woman's life is more valuable than an "ugly" one's. Do you at least understand that concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:06 AM
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Please cite me a news article that says not maintaining your looks is a worse crime than not paying your taxes. Would you date a tax cheat if she was hot?? Do you realize how hateful the manosphere sounds about "fat chicks"?? Unattractiveness being considered grounds for hatred is evidence of objectification. Other posts here have already explained why your articles didn't really address what "objectification" really means. My bullets were to help see the attitudes behind objectification. You ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:02 AM
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The old ways kind of had a level playing field. Not by a lot, but you would at least see women more open to socializing. Funny. One of my girlfriends said the same thing. She tried to socialize with a guy she met online thru some forum(not OLD). He turned her down based on a picture. It wasn't a dating picture, but a humorous picture. She didn't realize he was so goal orientated toward dating. Maybe girls are copying guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:38 AM
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Ah kid. Makes sense. But if not kids, age happens anyway. So many people only have 1 kid. Did you choose that after seeing how much work 1 kid is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:32 AM
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A mother can easily tell her son things like women like touching when they are comfortable with you, etc. I thought you made some good points. But when you said that.... How old are you? Have you seen real parents in action? Have you interacted with 12 - 15 year old males? Being critical of anything women do or say no matter what comes off as woman hate. In the manosphere. It's not ALL women's fault. It's not like men's dating advice works for all men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:49 PM
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Succinct and true. From what I've seen in IT, beautiful blond women might help sell beer, but not data services. My guess is that people tend to assume that a beautiful woman doesn't need to be competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:40 PM
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ual or bisexual man then there's no place for you to disagree. You don't know what men see in women. Interesting study, plus Economist is a great magazine. However another factor could be something like "objectification". Pretty women don't need jobs, and their work could never be as important as reproductive success. It's strange how both men & women can act around a beautiful woman. I know a woman engineer, gorgeous. Even though she's smart and successful, it's like people feel it's a tragedy …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:37 PM
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If you're helping a woman with their homework for the sole purpose of fucking them, it doesn't mean you're not objectifying them. You are hitting the nail on the head of the point which u/gavinok doesn't seem to see. Nothing else about the woman matters except sex. OTOH, it's a fair point that getting help with her homework is still an advantage for whatever reason. Too bad also is that "girls need help with their homework" plays into stereotype. Girls are often better at their homework too, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:27 PM
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Nobody goes up to a woman and starts using her as a sexual object in broad day light. You talk and interact with them. Some really hate that they have to put up with talking to her first. Ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:20 PM
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Their accomplishments and talents are acknowledged even more because they're hot. Agreed. Good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:16 PM
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The idea that a woman is only valued sexually if she is thought of as attractive is a myth invented by unattractive women. None of your "points" are talking about "objectification". Your examples are similar to the general advantage of attractive vs unattractive. "Objectification" means her looks matter more than her person. "Objectification" means a woman not maintaining her looks is a greater crime than failing to be a good citizen taxpayer who pulls her own weight and helps others. "Objectifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:07 PM
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Ha, ha, ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:33 PM
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Can you show me "female dating advice"? Do you mean short articles? How can you compare short articles to more comprehensive PUA/TRP? It's not apples/oranges, since it's comparing a full class and training regimen with what might just be encouraging words like "go get them". I agree that our culture should do so much more to educate kids on how to date & maintain good relationships. But you know how politically controversial life & sex education is. But blaming "female dating advice" for a "cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:08 PM
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I'm a woman who grew up believing "looks don't matter", which seemed true for me when younger. I was much more attracted to wit & personality. A guy who had only looks going for him wasn't attractive to me. But now I realize that his personality would have had to be extra good if he were super fat or below average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:57 PM
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are you positive 2016 US society is 'better' than 1950 US society The 1950's was an extremely unusual time in history. Over the entire course of our industrial age, overworked multi-income families aren't that unusual. Remember the work & family descriptions in Upton Sinclair's book "The Jungle"? (Required reading when I was high school) Although i find the dating advice interesting, TRP & manosphere really lose my respect when they make Feminism the villain for other economic and political issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:36 PM
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Your relationship sounds like mine. Fuck. This is probably TMI, but why not speak it real online & anonymous? I speak to you from the future. My SO has dysthymia Mine too. 20+ years of marriage, and he still does. As the years go by, I see clearer & clearer what that cost me. He still brought things which seemed worth it. But I also see how I blinded myself to the cost, and wish I could have woken up earlier. At the beginning, his illness made me feel like a hero. I grew up in a DV home, which c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:55 PM
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When a man thinks a woman is attractive, the man wants to have sex with the woman. When a woman thinks a man is attractive, it doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him. Women tell about what makes a man attractive, but that doesn't mean they want to have sex with him. Therefore to men, female dating advice is useless. RESPONSE Male tunnel vision missing too much. Female dating advice is actually telling men how women will both date & agree to sex with men, the things necessary for women besid…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:17 PM
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Quite possible. A woman or two I knew who went that way actually knew they had standards & problems enjoying relationships. So they chose to meet their needs thru books deliberately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:53 PM
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You can't really strip the misogyny away from the actual model. Right, because some people are offended just by the statement "most women prefer dominant men." That right there is misogynistic for most detractors. I don't see that "prefer dominance" as misogynistic either. Instead, I do see statements like, "Women are children", or "Most responsible teen ager in the house" as misogynistic. Outsiders can't see how well the various strains are compartmentalized. Actually, "women prefer dominance" …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:48 PM
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Oh good lord. Don't make me curious about what "secret swinger societies" are really like. Damn, too late. I'll see if I can contain my interest. :-) Did you quit swinging because of a marriage? Growing older?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:38 PM
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There's temporary escapism, like through books, movies, videogames, etc and then there's permanent escapism like what you're referring to. Agreed. My OP wasn't supposed to be about permanent escapism, but a way in which NOT ALL women are stuck on a CC, or helpless before a player who knows how to seduce. They get their needs for thrills eleswhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:34 PM
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Yeah, OLD has changed things a lot. I kind of miss the old social skills, and ways to interact in a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:26 PM
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You talk about this as if it's exclusive to women when it's not. Men are portrayed the same exact way in porn. I assume it doesn't bother men since they tend to pay for the porn. Also, men don't have a history of being dehumanized objects, at least sexually. Anyway, my point was to clarify where some women's rejection of dehumanized sex comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:24 PM
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So when she meets a guy who seems interested in her, but not obviously "sexually", she finds that interesting/intriguing. The fact that guys always have such an obvious sexual desire for her isn't really offensive or threatening, but it is boring af. It's a cliche. All guys look the same from that perspective. Oh, I agree with your description here. I read similar before on Reddit. But my take is that the interesting/intriguing is fueled by several factors at least. Intriguing mystery, curiosity…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:37 AM
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extroversion is at the very least linked to ease of getting casual sex, and could to a lesser degree be linked to interest in pursuing it Great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:10 AM
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they are often ill-prepared when that happens (since they couldn't even conceptualize fucking someone else prior to that, let alone feel prepared to deal with it). Actually, I believe it too. There are a lot of unaware people. But women being sexually unaware is definitely a trend. Also, decent book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts goes into documenting that disconnect with women. But I also remember myself when younger. "Good girl complex" + "people pleasing tendencies" = Feeling too susceptibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:01 AM
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People here act like every party is some coke-fueled orgy, it's really weird. It makes me wonder what kind of parties they've gone to, if any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:47 AM
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I read fan-fiction for the graphic descriptions of unfeeling (or, at least, antagonistic) sex. Makes sense!! "Antagonistic" makes it torrid sex. Testerone feeds both lust & aggression, and so make each other more intense. When I said "passion" I meant torrid, hot sex. When I said "unfeeling" I mean "meh" or boring, starfish sex. As an introverted woman myself, I avoided casual sex, in part because I didn't believe I had enough skill to make the sex good. A casual encounter doesn't just have pote…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:45 AM
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I think that if a woman fantasizes about human relationships based on what she reads in a book she is very silly and naive and needs a reality check. Or maybe she is just "bad in bed"? I guess it's really hard for guys to understand how books can be better bet than actual sex. But it's true, like Louis CK said, sex can often be disappointing to women. :-) She'll find an LTR if she wants one, and won't burden her man for the extra thrills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:29 AM
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what is SPN? SPN = Supernatural It's a TV series with an intense creative online mostly female fandom. It's worth a look on Tumblr, DeviantArt, LiveJournal. There's a lot of non-sexual and every sort of art & writing. But there's also a lot of slash or m/m pairing. I met a lot of interesting women there, and PPD keeps bringing it to mind for whatever reason. Your history of swinging is quite interesting, worth starting the thread for. ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:23 AM
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banging someone as a 1L and burning the bridge with them makes the next few years mighty awkward. Oh my, sounds like you had interesting friends. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:17 PM
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Instead she had 6 STRs and 4 LTRs - there's your carousel right there. That will ruin her just the same as 15 ONSs. Ruin?? You think a woman can't love you if she had other relationships? That she wouldn't learn to read people better, and appreciate who she loves more?? Is it because you want her to have "nasty" sex with you only? It's less special if she might have done it with another?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:15 PM
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She didn't date anyone in highschool, but the guys she had crushes on or liked were bad boys, guys who were known to be fuckboys(guys who are known for just having sex with girls and not committing). when this girl got to college, oh boy, she went crazy. She would "hang out" at the basketball player's house every weekend and party with them when they weren't at away games. You get the story. This is where some understanding of individual psychology might help save some guys like u/gavinok from u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:03 PM
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I'm proud of how far I've come, this is an internal sense of pride that I don't share with others The rewards of our own hearts are real. Few things are as satisfying as having faced down your "worst" fears. Winning such a battle can't be taken away from you, and a lasting source of inner confidence, that you can truly handle life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 09:23 PM
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I've never felt getting a date was a "struggle," but it's true I haven't been "riding the CC" (though it would be easy to point out I still have some time for that). I'm not interested; I'm not convinced it's linked to my introversion. Thanks! Your experience makes sense. I'm not trying to define absolute rules for everybody about introversion. My intention here was to help destroy the illusion that every woman is secretly lying about riding the CC, or else so unaware she is helpless before play…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 09:03 PM
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The women I know who read romance novels are actually all married with kids. My experience too, particularly my mother's generation. To me, it's wise. They know real life won't give them that exciting tension & sexual passion, so they find an acceptable source. It's probably better for the entire family if they don't have to go hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 08:36 PM
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Why does everyone think their personal experiences hold the absolute truth? Actually, a lot of people know that "absolute truth" is impossible. We can only triangulate from our subjective truth, which means sticking to "personal experience", and not overreach into defining all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 08:34 PM
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You write this kind of crap, you make it central to your beliefs, and then you're surprised when people think that you're hateful idiots. Bingo!! :D It does destroy credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 08:31 PM
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I've seen too many women friends struggle with preferring to read romance, rather than go on dates. I honestly know of no women (that I can think of right now at least) under the age of...40? 50? that fit this description. Just counting thin ones in their 30's, I met at least 5 thru SPN fandom. In 3 cases, I think that the woman wasn't dating because she was caught up in intense creativity. SPN has intense networks of writers and artists. So it could just be a temporary phase thing. But the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 06:47 AM
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The world isn't split into being only one thing or the other. Agreed. That's why I asked about other people's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:50 AM
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Ha!! You recommend any? :-) I didn't know about those boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:15 AM
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Never had a ONS, took a dude home from a nightclub, dated a guy that I met at a nightclub, fucked a guy I just wanted to have casual sex with, or was "generally irresponsible and riding through life on easy mode getting ahead for no real talent." I had to re-read that sentence a couple of times because it seemed self-contradictory. Then I realized that "Never" applied to the entire list, and not just ONS. :-) You go girl!! What were you doing instead?? Beyond recovering from hard work. Nolo pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:14 AM
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Direction 2: Is TRP correct in saying that most women ride the cock carousel? I thought it was well accepted here that this claim was exaggerated. So the PPD mostly agrees that women riding the CC is exaggerated? Good, because this was about disagreeing with that. My romance examples were about proving the many cases where there is no CC, whatever that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:10 AM
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I knew a mix. But yes, some aren't social at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:33 AM
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And ironically, despite the perceived misogyny of the PUA scene and mano-sphere, I never had as many friendships with women or just plain fun, good times and hanging out with women as I did after that. I was much more paranoid and negative about women before and much more angry and entitled about being turned down too. Good story!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:23 AM
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It's not about the tone, it's not about the sperginess, it's not about the overt misogyny - strip all of that away, and the ideas themselves are still offensive as hell to most BPers. You can't really strip the misogyny away from the actual model. Even if your comments and tone are moderate, the crowd around RP still influences people's perception of it, just like the radfems influence many people's perception of all feminists. This is why I tried to isolate parts of TRP model for discussion. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 03:15 AM
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They have probably been faced with a lot of rejection and torment at the hands of opposite sex Gamers don't seem to have much experience with women actually. Is the torment something she did, or he deduced?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:51 AM
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It's self-damaging behavior long-term, because it's making much of the eligible male population into sad, self-hating sacks of timid misery that will never approach them. The ultimate question is why the fuck should anyone care? Both sides, men and women need to take responsibility for their lives Christ. "Why care" is way too harsh. But I do see that some BP dismissal of Nice Guy's struggle is due to history's horror show of blaming women. Batterers are dead sure they're in the right, and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 01:05 AM
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Female sexuality is the only appropriate way to express sexuality in our society. How? If that were true, then guys taking a D up the ass would be considered cool. But gay is still quite frowned upon. Anyone taking in someone else's D is synonymous with weak. What do you mean by "female sexuality"? Lack of sexuality? I think that was religion, and not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:41 AM
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It's a big part of where the "blue pill" mentality comes from. "Male sexuality is bad, and you should feel bad." Women's sexuality is considered bad too. Each gender hurts in different ways on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:34 AM
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They no longer felt comfortable being in that close of proximity to me, despite the fact that I had never expressed any sexual interest in them. I was now treated like any other guy, which both surprised me and broke my heart. Bummer. I totally believe it though. If she lets down her gatekeeping at all, then whatever happens is her fault. I understand, but it's harsh to let go a friend like that. EDIT - ADDITION I can't tell you the amount of attention from hot women I got as a married man. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:03 PM
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if a man will see a scantily clad woman her boobs will stand out more than her personality, at least AT FIRST. That's what some women refuse to acknowledge. It must seem strange that a woman would be surprised at the guy's response. But it's not some game. That really is so alien to her way of thinking that she can't see the guy's viewpoint. She's only reminded of other scary guys who try to erase her value except for sex. Shaunti Feldham was so shocked at this realization she wrote a number of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 10:48 PM
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You don't need to "sexualize" them, they are already sexual if you want them to be or not. Actually, the word "sexualize" is bad for explaining what offends some women & feminists. "Objectified" is better. But the "hot button" which really angers these women is erasing her humanity, and declaring that her "sexual value" is ALL that matters. Her career, her mission in life, her pursuit of happiness, her inalienable rights, all that is just crap in the way of some all important fuck value. Porn is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 10:38 PM
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sexual dynamics as a whole Can you clarify what is meant here? her stuff doesn't seem to be all that focused on sexual dynamics as a whole, but rather the specific dynamics in a BDSM setting. Confining discussion to only broad influences would throw out a lot. I don't have a sexual bible or anything, just what I've learned in practice. The OP's question was about what I read which influenced my ideas of sexual dynamics. I didn't reply with everything that could do that, including movies & other …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 10:23 PM
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You disagree with the idea that women branch-swing and even think about cheating? Thinking is different from planning. Noticing an offer isn't the same as fishing for one, and planning on betraying your spouse. To me, referencing someone promoting the BDSM lifestyle is just about as slanted in their perspective as someone promoting the tradcon lifestyle. To me, your sentence here pinpoints a key difference about RP vs my BP thinking about "sexual dynamics". I'm not trying to promote anything. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:27 PM
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"Nice Guy" Robert Glover "wrote" that paragraph during an interview. But i won't argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:16 PM
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Cool. So RP's value is in putting it all together? Good to know, you answered one of my essential questions about RP here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:15 PM
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original You moved the goalposts. This is intentional dishonesty.. Wrong! About my intention. The OP asked BP's about sources for "sociosexual dynamics". So which "sociosexual dynamics" are BP vs RP are essential to any point here. My point wasn't to knock RP's originality, but clarify what we're arguing about. RP can't claim every "good sex" technique as exclusive to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 09:11 PM
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What sex/love/attraction dynamics ideas are original with TRP? History has a lot of discussions of male/female difference. Even recently, John Gray's writing, like "Mars/Venus in the Bedroom", and Shaunti Feldham's books all describe gender differences in sex and dating without saying women are children, branch-swinging, and secretly thinking about cheating. I can't help think that guys are projecting there. Other authors I like about sex dynamics are Nicole Daedone(her TED talks are great), and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:26 AM
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The semi-sacred aspect is part of why I think I have trouble remembering that mixed up weekend when friendship somehow turned into crummy sex. :) I don't understand people who can have a lot of casual sex either. I have one friend with a promiscous past. She enjoyed it at the time, the physicality, choosing & being chosen. But it was decades ago. Much of those STR/ONS memories didn't stand the test of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:10 AM
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I read Neil Strauss' "The Game", and started Googling terms. I found an internet ecosystem. Oddly, it was some post on Dave Futrelle's site which made me have check Reddit. Oddly sticky thoughts in TRP. Reddit has more than I dreamed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:02 AM
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Good lord. Of course I'd be honest if N count mattered to him!! A lie like that could hollow out a marriage, and kill it's emotional life. Women are willing to live poor to leave bad marriages. This is no different. Although it might take someone awhile to "wake up" or "grow up", maturity leads away from lies like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:18 PM
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Have you ever said it was lower, then? One possibility I don't see discussed is an N is forgotten because sex can be very unmemorable sometimes. "Oh, I keep forgetting that." Too intoxicated for memory to be reliable, mistaken pity sex, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:13 PM
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Any woman can brag about how much male attention she gets. But how many women can say, "Oh yeah? Well I fucked the frat president," or "I fucked the captain of the football team," or "I gave the President of the United States a BJ"? Actually, I don't see women bragging about sex anywhere, except fiction & entertainment. The "it ain't cool to brag" rule applies to guys too, in real life, you don't see them bragging about partner counts publicly. Only some online men's forums do that. It matters i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:05 PM
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Me either. But I still had good relationships. N count just isn't important for many if there are no red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:27 PM
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One of the few guys I wanted "got away". I had been subtly indicating my interest, but I remember a party where I'd drunk too much & blabbed out boldly, that I'd love to "screw him". He stared at me, looking intrigued, like just hearing that rocked his world. But we didn't leave the party or anything, and I didn't see him again until days/weeks later. (Hazy, decades ago memory) The next thing I remember is talking to him like a friend where he asks me about his plans to escalate his relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:16 PM
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Not much you can do about it except dust yourself off and get back on the horse (a different one!). :))
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:51 PM
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Men put themselves in the friend zone, not her, according to Robert Glover, author of the "Nice Guy" book. Presumably, if she becomes available, if he can show interest without rage at her, she might notice him. Quote... She doesn’t even know we’re interested in her. Guys will talk about being put in the friend zone. I tell guys women don’t put us in the friend zone. We put ourselves there. We go take this passive indirect approach to a woman and think that magically--and here’s a piece that a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:48 PM
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Women are the ones who keep family connections going, even with their in-laws. Women build a different & complementary social network than men. To oversimplify, men are usually better at "managing up" business relationships. Women better "managing down". Also, neighborhood social connectors, local businesses, etc... Women make life more livable by breaking "male standoffs". My brother lived in an "Animal House" during college. Some visiting guy opened the refrigerator door too quickly, and an eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 06:42 AM
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Maybe we should start shaming women for NOT thinking about sex every 7 seconds? Points for originality. But there are less toxic tools than shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:45 AM
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Just negative energy directed at men and male sexuality. Everyone's sexuality. Do you think the mom's who are overharshed weren't ashamed of their own sexuality too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:44 AM
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If it's sex with someone who really wants to be with you, who you really want to be with, and you're both really into it, and there's a connection, then it's validating. That's exactly it for me, maybe I should do a Q4Women to see if many other women see it this way too. I wonder if the RP exists partly because some men can't understand this is how it is for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 12:16 AM
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This seems an incredibly strange thing to do. I think that this is changing with the younger generation. But yeah, I'd be too "old fashioned", and get turned off too. :D Also, me thinks you have other sources of feeling validated as a man than just experiencing sex. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:18 PM
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You're assuming a lot there. I'm saying that that statistic argues that men don't "need women less".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:17 AM
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You have a way of explaining things. :D One question... Was she picky about who she talked to on the site?? Maybe she's just great at pre-screening?? So she's picky in a way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:05 AM
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My best answer is to look for women revolving around some sort of interest or hobby, as opposed to generic day/night game. That sounds like a good strategy. It's best when you genuinely agree the hobby or cause, especially for LTR, but might work even so. I know of a female fandom with a high rate of "good girl complexes" known for experiencing "sexual awakening", and a family like feeling of trust & proof. :) But one of the things I think RP misses is that there are a lot of women who can't ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:57 AM
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I didn't say contraception was perfect. But yes, contraception often works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:47 AM
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Why is this so? If you read about a kink & were interested in trying it, where is the first place you'd go to find partners? A bar? Your church? Your office? :) Your normal friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:46 AM
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Actually I married a male feminists. Such men are the best. And yet even female feminists won't date a male feminist, go figure. You sound like someone who hasn't had sex with the kind of quality woman who doesn't need baby sitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:09 PM
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Why are the post-divorce suicide rates higher for men?? Could that be related to sex? Beyond other social factors? For men's sake, I hope that what OP is implying is true, that men don't need sex as much. (Even if OP just might be asking a fun debate question)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:05 PM
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Shazam! Although I think Incels are a special case, who are missing any kind of human connection at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:00 PM
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For women sex is more psychological, if you know what I mean, while for men it is more physical. I know a lot of women who get their psychological fix online, sharing romance, fanfic with other women. Half the fun of women's porn is it's social opportunities with other women. I've seen fangirls take up slash porn as a way to connect with other "fan girls". Not that they didn't find they loved that kind of fiction too. (BTW - None of these women liked 50 shades. Like "hate watching", some buy a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:58 PM
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One thing I agree with RP, passivity is a turn off. I'm surprised at anyone who enjoys that. I'm glad some men don't find that a turn on in women. Blech. But when I say "passive", I mean disengaged, disinterested. Nobody has to be an egomaniac to be non-passive. The domination thing is an over-correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:53 PM
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It's hard to find a woman that doesnt want to be "dominated". Do you mean online dating, RWP??? Not all, but online is an environment which attracts the women curious about domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:49 PM
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The whole point of sex for women is this idea of getting "submitted" by this man, feeling vulnerable etc. Sounds like you've read about sex a lot more than you tried it. It's a fad now for women to try being "dominated". But many women go "meh", and go back to unlocking themselves in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:47 PM
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Good lord. I'd probably have the baby. I'm sure I could give it up for adoption too. I'm super glad this kind of choice can be avoided though, thru contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:43 PM
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Giving everyone a chance isn't the worst strategy is it? Ha, no, not "worst". There might be easier ways though. Seems like an awful lot of bar fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:39 PM
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SGM seems like good sex advice, but seems bad for anyone capable of traditional success. It seemed like the author didn't have a real job, and if the women were supporting him, that wouldn't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:37 PM
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You feminist nutjobs call women wanting to take care of their children "internalized patriarchy"? The vast majority of Feminists fight to protect children, particularly the influencial ones, and not the fringe nutcases.. Even Hilary has a good record for advocating systems which helped children. "It takes a village"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:24 PM
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They are talking about the people who regret not having kids (childless), not actual childfree people who live deliberately. Most of the "sorry I won't have kids" media I've seen has to do with infertility, and not dating. She married in time, but nope. I've only seen 1 article from a woman who was sorry she wouldn't have children because of her dating choices. I've seen tons childfree by choice(decent media examples, not reddit).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:18 PM
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A culture of sluttiness that makes it harder to find decent women (may as well get laid if this is the case) What defines "decent women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:21 AM
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What are you, psychic? You stalking us? How do you know this? Dude - It's an obvious conclusion. RP compares notes on deception. Lying about relationships works with women, and so an obvious temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:55 AM
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skamed by a marriage swindler and that tgeir value is much too high to adopt such a used saggy old hag with a mountain if mental issues, who sucked miles of cock and drank buckets of cum from chads on club toilets. Vivid imagery!! I laughed. But I can't give you an "A" in writing class because of your spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:12 AM
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All of my male friendships have been defined by competition. I might write an OP on this at some point. Ha!! I'd enjoy reading that one. You never see the typical 'party people' wondering if introverts feel left out. Ha!! Introvert here too. The internet seems made for introverts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:39 AM
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sgm = sex god method
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:17 AM
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Women are the ones who should be educated. Agreed, if you mean "informed" and not "punished". Genders understanding each other better is win/win. Plus I trust in the light of Truth to set people free. Truth is hard to see, and is often humbling. But Truth can cure nations, alcoholics, and has been the guiding light for science. The truth you know about women is debatable. You sound like Anakin Skywalker, who listened to pain until he believed the dark's lies about the best way to protect a light…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:53 AM
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Blue Pillers find in some way "unworthy", The "unworthiness" isn't that you had sex with a woman "better than you".. It's about you seeming unaware and uncaring about causing harm. History has a lot of bad examples of it being cool for men to hurt women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:10 AM
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Like the girls who tricked me into thinking they loved me Most people have had their hearts broken, and maybe even those women. I learned the hard way that it's isolating & wastes years to think that my pain was different from everyone else's. May you learn sooner that you're not that alone, things aren't that desperate, and that the worst feeling of hopelessness/damage are illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:06 AM
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held responsible for their lies, just like you're trying to hold guys responsible for theirs. How are you held accountable for women's lies? Hell, I even agree you have valid claims on 'victimhood points' status, and that some BB's are in a bad position for sex/relationships. Also, I even credit RP for helping(?) naive, wealthy, idealistic men become more aware of how bad specimens of humanity can get them mauled while seeking a mate. But victims get less than you'd think. Victims still have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:59 AM
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I was hoping for a Pink Floyd discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:47 AM
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Offering to cook dinner in exchange for your husband washing the dishes is a manipulation Not really. A better word would be transaction or trading. You're blurring the moral meaning of "manipulation". Blurring moral meaning has it's uses in human interaction, usually not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:45 AM
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you don't like the idea of being manipulated or manipulating people because you assume that everyone who manipulates is bad or doing bad things, but the truth is almost everyone loves being manipulated on some level. Good example. But remember the audience knows and has consented for the purpose of entertainment. It's not false pretenses. If your game is putting on an attractive show, than I don't have moral qualms. But NOT if you lie to her about your desire about an eventual LTR to get her to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:39 AM
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A dubious fantasy based on zero actual evolutionary study changed your idea of evolutionary psychology? Changed my enthusiasm, more like. I'd watch that field trip. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:05 AM
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Why are women making fun of men for a dire situation? To me, it looks like normal click-bait journalism. There is fierce competition in media for eyeballs & clicks. If a fact is controversial, more dramatic, then it's more interesting. So find someone to make a dramatic claim against it. Yeah, it's harsh. But news often is. Women are harshed-on for other things. Some of the women said harsh inconsiderate things. It might be hard to see, but it's partly about frustration & underappreciation for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:38 AM
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I agree that men rejecting unattractive women is good CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:14 AM
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You don't need to have sex to feel validated, it's all about knowing the opportunity is there. Convincing example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:12 AM
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It's not the end for her. I'd say it's a catalyst for change, if anything. Much like a TRP user has came to the crashing realization that he's been used for free as a beta chump, then changes into a man who get's what he's worth, Good post! Agreed. Plus, the clip rocks. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:04 AM
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Lack of sex isn't starvation to them like it is to you, there equivalent is lack of commitment. Also lack of emotional closeness. Guys whose marriages fall apart sometimes find this out the hard way. Also, a lot of women can't open up sexually without it. Commitment =/= Emotional Closeness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:50 PM
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She sounds like a Cubs fan. FUCK YEAH!!!! CUBS!!!! CUBS finally won the world series again. You is a fool now!!!! :) Plus, it's fair for me to say "Quit complaining about sluts complaints. Don't look for their articles." Take your dick out of her rather than tire us with your complaints..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:38 PM
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It can be magical, to be the object of such powerful affection...but too often, you're only an object. Ohhh. I bet you are a woman(?) who experienced this. Women tend to realize it's happening more, even if the said partner isn't fully sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:20 PM
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Oh!! Good point. Now I appreciate the movie better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:18 PM
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I am honored that you, a leader on these subs, replied to me, especially since I'm hear to learn. what a guy does with that knowledge is up to him and according to his choices. Indeed. My confusion was that I thought that the praxeology of the TRP wasn't fully settled, especially regarding LTRs. Also, TRP can mean both a particular subreddit or a praxeology. What I've seen of the TRP subbreddit techniques & intentions seemed most suited to STRs. My posts show me wondering about the efficacy of T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:12 PM
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I think I get it now. You were referring to BDSM play without sexual penetration. I wasn't sure. I agree that I wouldn't want to cheapen it either. Damn, it sounds like impressive. Thanks for answering me. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 09:58 PM
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I also believe, fundamentally, that we have limited parameters with regard to what we can achieve in life. This is the antipathy of the popular culture, which continually emphasises that anyone can do anything that they want to do. Damn! A kindred spirit. ITA. Youth is about discovering the limits of the hand your dealt, and also other limits like energy, time, and opportunity. But also, I'm finding that a well-played can still buy the best of our dreams and more. All I can say to you is that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 09:29 PM
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Fellatio isn't necessarily penetrative. I didn't say anything about enjoyment. I don't see what is complicated about... Did her pants come off? No? Then doesn't count. I never met a woman who throat fucks, but doesn't take off her pants. I agree "no penetration" is obvious, but the line isn't that clear for oral. I don't think every type of oral should count. But unlike you, I do think that some types of oral count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 07:02 PM
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You're assuming that's their idea of going all the way. Personally, I'm not willing to overlook someone's taste for any other body fluid, or psychosexual obsession with new and more exotic forms of pain. If anal counts, so do they. Please understand that I'm saying this with respect and amusement. But "Go to hell - you just drove me nuts wondering wth you were talking about." Maybe some kind of BDSM fetish play with needles or something?? Sheesh. I usually don't have to suffer not having a clue.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 06:45 PM
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If the man never saw her genitals, then it doesn't count to me, for a woman's n count. Maybe fellatio adds to his N count, but not hers. Guys like a higher N count, women a lower. This seems win/win for me. Also, if he never saw her genitals, then the experience didn't amount to much for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 06:32 PM
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These bp alpha players want LTRs, and rp can help them. Ack!! It's huge surprises like this that keep me coming back to PPD. Where are the BP alpha players looking for LTRs?? PUA advices men to play a numbers game until you run into a woman DTF. That doesn't seem a good strategy for finding someone interested in LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:05 PM
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I get that not making any sense is his "thing" but psychopathic behavior combined with his secure romantic behavior(combined with general insecurity) with that women doesn't make sense You nailed what bothered me about Deadpool. His romantic side seemed too genuine. It would have been more believable if it seemed more forced. Then again, Jung's school would say psychological paradoxes are the rule. He even mentioned that brutality created sentimentality(like romance?). Pairs of opposites drove m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 05:00 AM
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Gay men know dick. If anyone knows how to play one for an involuntary orgasm.... Here's an article mentioning it. QUOTE Some people still see rape according to the old cliche: vile men dragging innocent women into dark alleys and then brutalizing them. As we are finally learning, the reality is much more complicated than the conventional-wisdom cartoon. Sometimes those women experience orgasm, which can be psychologically devastating. I was erect for much of my rape (at least the parts for which…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:03 AM
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What woman will poke holes in condoms or sperm jack if she’s signed a waiver? Good grief. Paranoia strikes deep. I can't imagine being a guy. But paranoia kills my lady boners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:45 AM
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Clear, vivid description. Damn, this description changed my idea of Evo Psych. Before, I was just dubious of it as a science. But now, I think it'd make a great reality series. I don't watch much TV, let alone reality series. But I'd watch a "tribe" of modern researchers testing mating strategies in the wild. Like "Survivor" but for science, with mating strategies, and a scoring system. It could be good science too. "Participant Observation" is a real qualitative research method (social sciences…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:38 AM
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Common sense would ask why on earth would any woman date a serial killer? Think about this for a minute, it's actually very simple, but it might be a key difference between men & women. They are NOT dating him. They NEVER intend to date him. They are enjoying a SAFE, but tingly, dangerous illusion of dating a famous, dangerous man. She is enjoying being immersed in a different world, like a novel. My guess is that men would prefer an IRL sexual interaction. So some women's preference for illusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:35 AM
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Do you agree with this perspective? If not, what do you disagree with? Yes, I agree with most of it. Since I'm new to the pills, and a woman, much seems obvious. In fact, you've got me curious why you keep asking. (I've enjoyed your threads.) My guess is that TRP's "break free from gynocentric society" pitch implies some kind of power over women, or special understanding. But the successes with women aren't about influencing her, instead just a better numbers game for finding available women. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 11:38 PM
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no you can't do ONE SIMPLE TRICK to make a specific woman like you. This thread may be about "False Advertising". I think some ads I've seen promise at least, "making yourself attractive to more women."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 09:00 PM
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Sexual attraction is based in emotion and lustful urges. It doesn't abide by common sense. It abides by how one feels. Its similar to the reason why serial killers have so many lovers and fan girls The article writer says that the serial killer attraction is partly because the guys are safe behind bars, forever. Think about it, she is breaking a taboo by writing him & fantasizing. All sorts of forbidden thrills with zero risk. He's locked up forever, so she never has to put out for real. If thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:56 PM
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Hmmm. Women changing to men strategy does have risk of backfire though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Don%27t_Cry_(film)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:34 PM
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why don't you just become a man? It's only a matter of identification after all, isn't it? Hey... This idea has potential. Maybe unhappy Incels can identify as Women? Women have all the luck when it comes to sex, family, and friends. Even if they don't make a pretty woman, they can get score a lot of bangs? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:30 PM
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A Jedi praising a Sith, you're walking a dangerous line! :))
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:47 PM
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Good points. I even agree. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:49 PM
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Let me be clarify one of the unseen implications of your attitude (which isn't uncommon). Rape isn't like sports, where the score is official and accepted. Unprovable rapes matter, whether they go to the police or not, in a way where everyone loses. Rape is a killer "turn off" for women, and not just the victims. Each one of those rapes create less dates. Plus less children later even since some victims quit the game permanently. One of my college girl friends went on a date in a car. He took he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:39 AM
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so I'm really not the best person to understand such things, lol... Yeah, me either. It's not like I've seen it. I've read about it from what seems like reliable researchers. Hearing that it happened to underage children was somehow convincing. But I'm not willing to look up that reference. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:50 AM
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I agree that the drunk thing is a slippery slope. Maybe they can use DWI or DUI criteria for "too drunk to submit"? But I don't think you can throw out all cases. Also, without third party witnesses, he could be lying that she was "into it". Plus those "Feminists" you're describing might have good reason to make that fight. There are no shortage of horror stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:04 AM
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NAWLT. Yeah, women find that weird too. The world is full of weird, including eroticized trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:58 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:56 AM
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but orgasms happening when a woman is totally turned off Sexual pleasure can happen during rape. I'm not sure how. But it reminds me of how pain can be blocked during sex, wet dreams, and orgasm associated with different body parts. Have you been part of BDSM communities? I'm curious. Have your whether people orgasm from non-normative things? I've heard of "pain sluts" which is hard to understand too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:55 AM
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If you are able to lead a lucid conversation and clearheaded enough to contemplate strategies (change subject, flee/talk) you are not drunk to incapacitating and it's not rape. The OP didn't say rape, I said, "Would you want him stopped?" The judge didn't say rape, but condemned it as "taking advantage". you are not drunk to incapacitating How about just drunk enough to drive when you shouldn't. Would you agree with the judge that it's "taking advantage"? Women need to determine if they want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:49 AM
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Did you read what I wrote? I misread a part. I'm glad that you added "proven beyond a reasonable doubt" about convicting her. Are you claiming that it is the norm? More common than believed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:41 AM
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the case where the woman is proved to have lied beyond reasonable doubt No, this is about women bullied by police into saying she lied, and then prosecuted for it. Then years later, it's proved she told the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 12:28 AM
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You are just another irrational "woman" lying about sex. You're lying about what you enjoy. You probably asked him for those bruises on your ass & face. Yeah, right, you just had a wet dream afterward. Don't bullshit us that you were afraid for your job because he was a commanding officer. I bet you fucked him to get a promotion. There's no proof you had an orgasm either, or made pleasurable noises, or said he was amazing. But he's a commanding officer, and you are just a lying whore admitting y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 12:20 AM
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Yeah, BDSM communities talk about consent a lot more than main stream. I'm not into BDSM, but it has 2 internet writers I enjoyed. Plus, I browse funny memes, and the jokes on this meme illustrate how to "violate" consent while agreeing to some sexual interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 12:14 AM
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Huh, I didn't realize a recent, famous "false rape" never had anything to do with law enforcement "false rape statistics". Police never saw it, nor a court of law. It was a journalism screw up, and not even a serious newspaper. The Rolling Stone is known more for gossip than serious reporting. Some journalists shared a juicy, sensational story without enough fact checking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 12:08 AM
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What about a reach around? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:54 PM
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just "assume a female mind" in a way that I can't do Or think like other guys, like "Lawrence of Arabia", or at least the author.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:42 PM
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It only seems fair given that women who are painted as false accusers also have their lives ruined , and get stigmatized by people too. OMG!!!! THis story. I believe it too. http://www.salon.com/2015/12/16/they_charged_a_rape_victim_for_lying_chilling_case_deserves_same_attention_as_rolling_stone_scandal/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:35 PM
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Don't understand what you see is the problem here. I want to understand, but it's triggering sometimes. I exceeded my limits here. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:24 PM
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It was military, so not sure quarters had locks. I agree scenarios have to make a lot of assumptions. I agree that it's assault. The judge agreed that something wrong had happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:18 PM
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That's clear. What a mental picture....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:15 PM
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what do you think she would do in a situation like that? I don't deny that some women will lie. To her friends or LTR. Not even going to get into that. But I don't believe she would bring the police into it. I don't believe she'd submit to a "rape kit". I don't believe situations like you described with your friend's date are adding to "false rape statistics". Why would she want police investigating "her lie"? Or risk this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:08 PM
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So you put your dick through a hole in the wall. Someone gives you a blow job. You have an orgasm. Is there a chance you are now gay? Wow! u/lurfly and u/prodigy2throw might have just invented an amazing concept! A Glory Hole which changes your sexual orientation. If a girl is on the other side, you are heterosexual, if a guy, then homosexual. Wouldn't it be cool to have a button which could change you back & forth? Gay to straight and back?? Sounds fun. :) This reminds me of a fave bit from "It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:54 PM
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I agree with your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:33 PM
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Thank you!! This is what I'd like to see people understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:30 PM
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I said if a man forcibly rapes you you're not gay But what if the raped guy ejaculates?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:26 PM
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I can tell you, both from personal experience and from the experience of many other men, even Viagra can't really overcome a lack of attraction, a lack of feeling 'comfortable', or 'performance anxiety.' I can't tell you how many times I've failed to get an erection because of 'performance anxiety', being distracted/having too much else going on around me, feeling pressured, not being able to relax, or just not fully 'feeling it' for whatever reason. That sucks. I believe you. I got that Viagra …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:22 PM
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How long have you been married? How long were you together before that? 20+ years. One thing to understand was that medical illness was involved, so we "hand waived" a lot which we're finally talking out, like cleaning out a closet. We were functional, but now want greater quality of life. Not getting into it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:16 PM
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Nope. It's real. A rant. Which part do you think is satire(disputed reality)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:11 PM
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Most women who drink are more likely to agree to sex with someone who they would not have otherwise said yes to. That's the stereotype. It happens, but those women aren't the ones who make a fuss. Sane women don't take it to court unless there was something particularly bad about it. When women complain that rape isn't taken seriously, it's more like this. Or, and I'm purposely being lighter, here are some "Douchebag Dominant" joke meme examples of NOT having any respect for consent. Sometimes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 10:09 PM
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Is there any reports of rape victims orgasming during rape? Yes. That's the controversy about rape which I'm trying to highlight here. It reminds me of one clear neural difference between men and women. Female viagra isn't possible. For men, genital arousal & psychological arousal is linked in a way impossible for women. A man's psychological arousal follows from a physical arousal, which Viagra can trigger. However, cis-het women's pussies get wet watching Bonobos boink, or a woman jog. Study B…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 09:15 PM
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Do you feel used because you're making him orgasm but he's not making you orgasm? Not for long. Because we kept doing the things which worked, and stopped doing the things where we couldn't get on the same page. Why is he being pissy and cranky at what should be something he wants to do. I could be wrong, but this tells me something good about you. Some men start just pushing for the part they like, skipping the stuff which bores them, you know, efficiency or victory. Yes, it does sound selfish.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:58 PM
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They're people whose genetic makeup is our Achilles heel. I finally understood this after decades. It's why it's almost dangerous for young women to instinctively see men as "people first", because a lot of guys have trouble seeing women as people. I appreciate all those who negotiate this successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:31 PM
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It wasn't rape. Don't understand what you see is the problem here. My guess is that you are trying to say that women are lying when they say that there is a difference between rape and sex. It's a shame, because you'd probably be more human, and enjoy more sex if you could tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:27 PM
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How are you defining rape? Are you saying the obvious "consent violations" don't matter because debatable IOIs existed? Violations mean the data is bad, and no outsider can tell what really happened. Consent Violations are... She is not awake or able to wake up. Too drunk or ill to defend herself Threatening her life or others. Threatening her income and employment. Why are these rules hard to remember? Doesn't even the RP acknowledge that "scoring" under those conditions is foul? Do you realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:09 PM
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Not only did she choose her regret sex, she knew about this problem, and she went ahead and did it anyway. Oh FFS! The headline says, "The Judge Slams" the guy who did this. Listen to the quote. He wasn't even supposed to be near her when it happened. Plus it's screwed up that you bring up rape when someone says there never any conspiracy to hide "truths" found by RP. Does the RP say that women make up most rapes. He said: 'Whatever happened to her on that evening, between you and her, she didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:28 PM
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What RT is referring to isnt ever realistic to you? Not that case. RT's story isn't like anything I've seen or read about in real life, unless as a side effect of what felt traumatic to her. I won't say that it could never happen on a planet with billions of people. But it seems a fluke rather than a trend, in my experience. I won't say that various versions of "settling" don't happen. But RT's case was particularly weird. A vid of an orgy??? Plus a threesome would have been a big deal to my wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:59 PM
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Sometimes, female dating advice to men is written from her experience with assholes. She hasn't dated a shy guy, so doesn't know what to tell him. She's telling the men she dated why they got into fights, and why she left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:39 PM
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I'm sure she kept the videos because of her shame and trauma too. I don't remember that story saying she had the vid. If she did, then something crazy is going on. But if someone else gave him the vid, then it's even worse if she enjoyed the BJ, and then was humilated for it afterwards. She'd need special trust to do it again, even for an attractive man. I don't know what really happened. RT is so convinced of his theories he probably doesn't realize when he's altering evidence to fit it. So if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:52 PM
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Screw conformity. You be you, lady! I love it. Death to Normalcy!! Conformity can be a living death. But I had to leave that job, in technical law enforcement. Conformity has it's purposes in military & law enforcement, which I couldn't blow off. :) I was much happier after changing to IT, although I wouldn't trade the law enforcement experience for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:35 PM
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Many gurus in all areas lack integrity. Thanks! I agree. I even agree the PUA thing was a good evolution of human knowledge. I even agree there's value in the hardcore cases. But I'm really curious about your experience. Do you think that PUA sometimes works NOT because of real sexual attraction, but other reasons like she wants self esteem back? Do you know anything what happened to Daniel Rose, the guy who wrote The Sex God Method? I'm all for good sex. But sex is also good for scary brainwash…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:28 PM
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I see women, specifically feminists, metaphorically tapping their feet, arms crossed and expecting to be catered to when they're not a game company's market. I remember reading an analysis on good reasons why gaming companies might be underestimating their female market, and shrinking it unknowingly. Plus, the amount of contempt generated seems all out of portion to the crime. Chances are something else is driving that contempt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:22 PM
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The majority of the women who are having casual sex are clearly having it because they enjoy it, proved by the fact that is the chad that gets the most sex. TRP would seem less naive if they noticed signs of women "trading for sex". Do FR's mention things like, "She started moaning before I even touched her. Her pussy was bone dry. She kept wincing during sex. But she's just young and needs improvement on faking/exaggerating sexual pleasure." Maybe a better example would be PUA Hitori's writing?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:40 PM
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EVERYONE goes "dear God this is terrible" the first time they see TRP. A man has got to be rock bottom to swallow the pill. Yeah, I believe it. This particular thread got to me. Sad! Only toxic "effective" dating help was available to a good man struggling. Now, he expects the worst of women, and gets that. I've seen the exact same pattern in women, of expecting "the worst" of opposite sex, creating it, and then quitting relationships because "no good members of the opposite sex".. Sometimes tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:26 PM
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However, at the same time she avidly propagated claims that only make sense if you assume that women are, in fact, better people, like f.ex. the infamous "only 3% of all rape accusations are made up"-lie Let me check your assumptions. You agree with this Feminist in principal. However then you believe she's just another sinister lying woman because she doesn't agree with you about "made up rape accusations". Women/feminists are not worthy of your trust because when they believe something differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:26 PM
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Women gamers would like the Game companies to NOT forget they exist, and also have employment opportunity. I'm not familar with the organization to help men not kill themselves, but I agree that it should be left alone or supported as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:14 PM
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Where did the anger and frustration come from? It was the frustration I never knew I had, every day frustrations which my job at the time had in extra measure... Having to conform day-in and day-out. Female stereotypes of being considerate, not selfish, being polite & positive, avoid triggering male interest, and not saying what I really think. I wasn't working at a Call Center, but have you ever seen that type of work? Getting yelled at by all sorts of callers, and hands tied in what they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:08 PM
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It's surprising what "neutral" qualities become interesting/attractive, once I'm already attracted. For instance, I was never into Classical Music, but my husband was. Then I discovered how intelligent & uplifting good classical music could be, and it increased my respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:02 PM
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This is really hard to believe. A gorgeous aging cougar paid thousands just to drink his jizz? She didn't want to be pleasured herself? https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1w5aic/iama_22_year_old_male_stripper_amaa/ceyt18l/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:04 AM
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I wonder if that particular AMA guy writes for Penthouse. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1w5aic/iama_22_year_old_male_stripper_amaa/ceyvjy5/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:57 AM
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Even completely unrestrained, there is no reason to hurt someone for your sexual desires. (Using general "your" here.) You are a person, not a rabid creature. Good point. Now that I remember that party better, it was more like... Mob rules. When we let the lid off, there was frustration, anger coming out too. Acting the way we thought men acted, and maybe a bit of retaliation. It's like some rough elements to rock concerts, moshing, just being wild & not thinking. After all these years, I can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:39 AM
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have been to this type of bachelorette party where the bride is giving bjs to the strippers I never heard of any women actually doing BJs or any kind of sex.. Actually, I thought that the AMA "male stripper" was lying. BJs aren't particularly fun for women, or wives wouldn't lose interest. Does a groom give the female stripper an orgasm, or himself? I was more interested in the vibrator I received during my party. Why would I want to give up my own orgasm to blow some stranger in front of my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:26 AM
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But If all men were gay/bi we'd probly be hunting women for sport :P Let the rats & roaches inherit the Earth then. At least they don't self-righteously kill off their females. Silver lining. Actually, what you describe isn't that much different from some of the horrors in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 05:06 AM
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As when you are in college and that living on campus your in a bubble all of your own. The video's of college feminists show you guys fall into this trap it seems all the time. As long as you understand that they're college students busy with school. It's not like they planned on never running into non-college guys. Not that it's safe for women to seek out the opinions of strange men either. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:00 AM
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lefties' disdain for things that come across as unempathic and disrespectful Not that all conservatives are models of civility. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:52 AM
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Then there are the women who grew up in working class families then went on to become successful and wealthy Yeah. I'm one of them(early retirement). Actually women in the trenches understand that Feminist academia helps cut down on everyday business BS. Everyone deals with HR a bit. The more watchdogs the better. It doesn't mean I agree with some of them. But battered women's shelters, hot lines, and other types of activism is good for communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:45 AM
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Demanding, criticizing and bitching 24/7 and her legs are like a steel trap. Wow!! I can't imagine why. You seem like such a peach. :-P It's best for everyone if you end her delusions about you, and stick to hookers. Not every "man" is cut out for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:34 AM
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This thread makes me real happy about how bisexuality is growing so fast among younger men. ITA. Plus men can be with someone more compatible sexually. Women less pressured for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:29 AM
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Threesomes... All the awkwardness, performance pressure, and risk of sex X2
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:27 AM
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I made a gaming group for men only, do you really think some feminist would not throw a shit-fit upon learning of its existence? Not really. As long as it didn't impact their career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:13 AM
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Little wonder straight men turn to violence. Much easier to deal with another mans asshole than a womans mouth. This is why it's good for RP to convince men to avoid marriage. Some woman dodged a bullet here. :) I know women who hate men, and I think it's good that they never marry also.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:08 AM
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My refusal to fuck a guy has nothing to do with furthering these attitudes; however, when I call him a "pussy" or a "neckbeard" for expressing disappointment that his sexual desire for me is not reciprocated, thereby implying that honest emotional displays make him less of a man, then I am contributing to toxic masculinity. Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:05 AM
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This is why it annoys me so much when some women claim their sexuality is the same a man. No, no it isn't. I agree. It's sad & I wish it was taught in high school or something. I never told anyone that male/female sex drives are the same. But I gave my boyfriends disbelieving looks & questions when they told me truths. Then again, they'd seem disbelieving about what I said too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:02 AM
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99% of relationship problems disappear if you will get over yourself and suck his dick. Not every man is that big on BJs. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:55 PM
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Have you also found that your partner resists this type of conversation (sharing intimate details about themselves) later on in the relationship? I've found the "resistance" to be an opportunity, to engage with him on his level. I pay attention to signals when he's open to it, and learn to avoid the stuff that he has to retreat from. It's good way toward self awareness. He picks up some of the tricks to approach me too, so we grow together, and it feels strong & secure too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:53 PM
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Most of her objections were to the way he went about the casual sex he was getting. Like, she was so offended that he hurt a girls feelings by not offering commitment. Arrrgh!!! Give me strength! Actually NO! The upset OP wasn't angry about sex vs commitment. Her objection was because a decent man was ruining his future because of lies. A man she cared for was becoming toxic & abusive, which would make him look like garbage to future quality women capable of loving him for himself, women who don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 10:06 PM
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So, it does not perpetuate the myth that "everyone else" is having sex. It perpetuates the myth that the majority of women are hooking up, when they are not. It makes men resentful of "settling" for a LTR, when that's what the majority of women offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:09 PM
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In your words, the less attractive partner makes her feel more secure, meaning insecurity was a factor in her decision making. Security as a factor for what? Yes, security is a factor in attraction. But my point was something different. A major disconnect between the sexes is that women don't see"pump & dump" as a reward or something to pursue, even if the guy is hot. Guys seem to find any kind of sex rewarding. SOME women find casual ONS rewarding, but most don't. Then PUA/EP & others make gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:06 PM
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During my bachlorette party, I touched one of the male strippers. But it was about acting outrageous, not "unrestrained lust". Male strip clubs have a weird atmosphere. I've never wanted to go back either. It's like a novel adventure. There are a lot more strip clubs for men, with more regular male clients who keep coming back. I've never saw women going to a strip club alone either. There's no point unless it's a bonding experience with women friends. Also, seeing men undress on a stage qualifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:55 PM
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"Ruining society" is a big claim. But "ruining" something I might buy. But can you be more specific about what is being ruined? Omega males lives not working?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:46 PM
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Why are you not allowed to be angry? I wouldn't forbid anger. But finding truth takes discipline, skill, persistence (like scientific truth). After he gets over the anger, if he wants truth, he has to give her space to tell it, where she is not talking to a hostile audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:44 PM
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It's that I was sooo ashamed for fucking half the college frat and enjoying it, Actually, it's men who fantasize about women fucking half the college, not women. Here's some neuroscientists who studied internet porn searches & studied female fantasies. https://www.amazon.com/Billion-Wicked-Thoughts-Internet-Relationships/dp/0452297877 The researchers noted male erotic fantasies of becoming a woman, and fucking lots of men. Men pay to watch huge gang bangs. Women write erotic fantasies of having …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:40 PM
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Why are you all like this? Because historically, the premise "you suck" has often turned out to be shit. So there is a higher "burden of proof". It's like a court of law, and how new scientific ideas need time & trials before they are accepted. I'm guessing you meant "women", but this applies for all sorts of people & eras. If you suck & societies terrible because of your suckiness take responsibility & change yourself. ITA. But you can't accept every Bozo's word on what the suck is. The world i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:32 PM
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withholding sex after her carousel years, This quote above reminds me how I've wondered about TRP is if it's really more about condemning women than successful "sexual strategy". RP men seem to only want to "succeed" with women they feel safely superior to. I see how PUA techniques target women into casual sex(such women rely more on physical arousal cues than psychological). I also see PUA techniques work for women whose self esteem is reliant on male admiration (which means she might not have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:02 PM
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it always comes as a shock to me that people are adamantly against hearing how awful they are, despite making absolutely no improvements to their behavior whatsoever. Ah, would be "improvers" who advise people on how NOT to be contemptible miss this. Has it ever motivated you to do something when someone expresses contempt or disgust with you? The more likely outcome of that is that they think you're an asshole & avoid you. They are more likely to devalue all your other opinions too. That's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:04 PM
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I always find it very passive-aggressive when women do that, though. Yeah, that judgement gets in the way of women's love & lust. Assuming the wrong motive will give you "wrong" results you didn't intend. "Passive-agressive" can be motivated by real fear, and real experience that it's useless to be direct without invitation. I gave you an intel tip for better informed strategy. You could look at individual cases to increase your discernment, which could lead to better outcomes. But not my proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:58 PM
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Good list. But let me add something which gets misunderstood about women. If he's done something wrong, there really is little or no excuse for not simply telling him what's wrong, instead of expecting him to guess and creating a horrible atmosphere for no good reason. Researchers into Christian marriages found that the reason the wife doesn't tell is because guys tend to get angry or defensive. So to the wife, it seems as if the husband doesn't really want to know. Their book had a good case st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:57 AM
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They never address and acknowledge, just deny and call the critics names. Shouldn't that set of alarms? I'm not sure which study you mean here. But no argument that Feminists have had a lot of critics from day one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:28 AM
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citation needed. Aren't men going their own way because MGTOW sees women as more trouble than worth? How is comtempt not part of see someone as worthless? My idea of Omegas came from the Incels threads, which have contempt for everybody at some point. Anyway this is all moot, because real life encounters matter, which online can't show. But attitudes of contempt are a deal breaker in general (among others like bad hygeine).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:25 AM
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The character played by Dennis Fanz (pretty sure). Other examples, one was a Jack Nicholsen movie with an unattractive woman in a hot tub, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:29 PM
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do you know what mbti type you are? Probably INTJ. Possibly INFJ. Not clear. Thanks for the complement. I was enjoying your posts too. Plus drama helps keeps things interesting. ;-) Happy Sunday.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:10 AM
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:-)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:26 PM
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Do men help their past GFs find other guys either? Or if they did, it'd mean something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:25 PM
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If you only knew the power of the Red Pill. That's what all the guys say. Hint. It's never as good as he says. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:06 PM
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my libido does not revolve about my partner being beta or alpha but only around my body and him being or not being a jerk Ha!! Many women feel the same way. A lot of marriages don't end up RP. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:00 PM
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I wouldn't want to live there either. Nor do I think that RP folks want to live there (well maybe some in MGTOW on a bad day). But I'm enjoying the movie. Sheesh. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 09:59 PM
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Honestly, I think a lot of them are doing it just for the traffic it provides. It's clickbait, pure and simple. Good theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 09:19 PM
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I may have "checked my privilege" and recognized that the dating world is much easier for me I may have "checked my privilege" and recognized that the dating world is much easier for me I hear you. Good story.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 09:18 PM
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Why can't you just explain what you mean. There isn't any political subtext here. I don't take the pills seriously. Pill threads sometimes have interesting, new insights, just like comedy does. Remembering Kronar was just a random, funny association when reading a "homophobic" PPD thread about sex with trannies, where some commenters belong to communities which "disdain the taint of woman". I thought that Monty Python's Black Knight was hilarious, and it reminded me of Oglaf's comics because it …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:56 PM
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People, in general, don't want to see unattractive people getting it on. There's a difference between "don't want to watch it", and "don't want it to happen". Audiences often cheer when unattractive characters find love. I can't remember the TV/movie/comic names right now. I think one was NYPD Blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:49 PM
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I never heard of "Omega males" before here. I wouldn't be surprised if many weren't like the worst of their posts. Yes, the world is horribly unfair, and many struggle with loneliness. I don't any magic solution. Just most people find they do worse socially when they build up resentment & hate. Not just omegas, but addicts, & all sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:45 PM
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I couldn't say. He sounds like he could be full of shit. But even if he isn't, I don't think his moves would work for other men. A different approach strategy might work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:39 PM
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means that said idea has no merit. No more ridiculous than the OP's question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:39 PM
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I literally have no idea what you're saying Overanalyzing ruins jokes. Dibs on calling you "not funny" first. Nevermind, I already know enough to not invite you to my Red Dwarf marathon. Also, no watching "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" together either, which had a great "knights at a toll bridge" scene too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:35 PM
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The sexuality of Omega males is seen as inherently disgusting. Hard to tell since their contempt for women & other people is a big turn off. Many people can roll with weight or other imperfections, but draw the line at sex with those who consider them subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:09 PM
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Maybe it was the guy who had problems, since that woman writer went on to have many fantastic, low-drama relationships, once she got free of that unempathetic, self-absorbed dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:07 PM
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no comprendre Wouldn't it be good to have a non-worthless sex partner? Even if you had to enter SciFi alternate dimension for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:01 PM
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What really hurts is the lack of Reddit humor in response. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:32 PM
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They're a lot funnier when NOT seen politically. Just as parody. worthless I always thought "worthless" was a turn off. I didn't know you enjoyed it. Pardon the misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:31 PM
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I didn't mean it that way. Yes, the TRP forum is about theory & comparing notes. Still, the forum still has recurring complaints/tones as a byproduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:25 PM
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Ha!! Great one. I PM'ed it to a Dom I chatted with who complained about such things. Oglaf has no end of good comics about sex relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:22 PM
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Maybe. I try, but am newbie to Reddit. PPD did seem more flexible for fun threads than others. Also, I thought that this topic needed "NSFW".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:09 PM
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I've read too much RP. But it's still a learning curve. The cartoon matches complaints & moods rather than actual theory. MGTOW and others sound like they'd be so much happier in a world without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:08 PM
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Thank you!! That was a great shock during the "Crying Game" movie. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:02 PM
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deviant Such folks throw better parties. :) I try to be the fun kind of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:01 PM
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It's better to stop depending on growth while we still have sufficient resources and while we haven't fully destroyed the planet as opposed to later. Know what I mean? I think so. Glad to see you're aware of resource over use. I've seen similar opinions to yours elsewhere. the women that we want to have children are the women who are educated I agree, but I see a lot of systemic reasons that lead to that, with no solution. I'm a woman with an engineering degree. I got married before 30, but didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:00 PM
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better insult towards TRPers than questioning their heterosexuality? Honestly, not meant as an insult. I just have an odd sense of humor. Plus i get jollies discussing gay sex. Now I find that PPD is bad for triggering this combination. Also, I have trouble with the concept that any sexual orientation is morally superior to another. I mean THINK about it. What is so morally superior about one type of sex over another?? Holier than thou sex?? For real?? Beyond fatherhood, what is morally superior…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:42 PM
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What people fantasize about in the safety of their minds doesn't necessarily reflect their behavior in real life... I've read about a study where this attitude was a big difference between the sexes. Women were much more likely to want it to be ONLY FANTASY. Whereas men tended to see fantasies as something they'd be happy to try in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:32 PM
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Me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:30 PM
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Holy tap dancing Christ. You did not just reference fuckin 4chan as an example of a superior culture...They think a guy can be spitroasted between 2 cocks but it's not gay so long as someone shouts "No Homo!" every few minutes. ROTFLMAO. Entire post!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:58 PM
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applause :D Thank you both u/MisgenderedCactus & u/future_space_boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:47 PM
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At least their balls didn't touch. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:41 PM
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Trap is a new word for M-to-F transexual?? Shemale?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:41 PM
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I can't answer since most people say I was above my husband in the looks department. Then again, I was a nerd attracted to brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:24 PM
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give her the punishment you all deserve. Maybe it would be more satisfying to look in the mirror, and focus the anger on the real source of pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:22 PM
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She never said rape. It was NOT a Beta male thing. She was another young woman not sure how sex was supposed to go, who fell in love with a man who thought her feelings were stupid. Then she's puzzled when she starts hating sex with him. Actually, her story has some similarities to my first BF. I grew to dislike sex with him too, and just being around him. It was too long ago for me to remember much clearly. But like her, I remember that it was "break up joy", not sorrow, like she described.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:21 PM
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"her responsibility". I can't argue that. I agree with you that having extended family support could make it more bearable. "It takes a village." Then again, historians show that "the good old days" weren't that good either. I'm curious. Some in TRP complain about the drop in birth rates for educated women & career women. Is that something you're concerned about? My take so far is that your against a marriage split where a man still has to help financially support his offspring, and not see them…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:59 PM
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While many factors can contribute to attraction, looks remain the primary arbiter of attraction. Nothing will ever change that. And the male gender wonders why it can't understand women. :-) Nothing wrong with your own preference, as long as you are not obnoxious about a differing preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:54 AM
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If not, then theyre expressing genuine regret over not having that slightly-better-than-everyone-else-i-know lifestyle than women invariably lust for. What a bummer negative take which I couldn't imagine without you. Remind me to never ask you to help lighten things up. :-) God I hate women. Maybe it might be fun to imagine gold diggers "paying" for it. For example, this "Douche Dom" meme had me LMAO. It's probably a stretch, but fun anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:35 AM
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i had a manosphere blog, i dont even see how what i said was controversial The manosphere itself can be considered controversial. Plus it puts a definite twists to facts about neurochemicals & evolution, etc.. Anyway, thanks for more of your background.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:22 AM
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B) not have the child and lose $10 ($50-40). Abortions cost money too. Plus birth control pill. Tom should only pay $40, but Tom is forced to split the cost of Gina and Sharon's choices regardless of what those choices are. It doesn't say that Tom paid more tax than $50, only that he didn't cost as much. But it sounds like you'd be a natural for deciphering the US tax code. Your example shows how a simple "fair" idea turns into nightmare math come April 15th. But yes, when it comes to medical re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:02 PM
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men pay, what I like to call a "penis tax". You may know it as alimony and child support. That would be more convincing if I didn't know women who were paid alimony themselves, and for whom could never depend on the man to pay child support. What we don't have is an itemization of how much money the man paid vs the woman toward child care. But even so, you aren't even counting "sweat equity", countless hours of labor, even at the cheap payscales for child care. Also, are they his biological offs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:55 PM
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Alternate views are fine. But my guard goes up when an angle seems to be played, such as misrepresenting who one is. I've seen TRP threads refer to blogs proving female nature, which sure looked like they were written by a man posing as a woman stereotype. So BS detectors going off are as annoying as smoke detectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:45 PM
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My question per the title is do you think this podcast is representative of mainstream feminism? WTF is "mainstream feminism"? The 3rd wave had already splintered into multiple groups. The 4th wave is even more diverse. "Mainstream Feminism" to me implies popular. To me, an example would be Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and other examples of popular "political correctness". Media articles too. Salon, Slate, and Atlantic have more political influence. Jezebel seems fluffy. I09 has a type of influ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:39 PM
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I truly think people online either overestimate or intentionally exaggerate how much women care about their own orgasms Agreed. Especially if she wasn't particularly interested in sex for it's own sake, and only paying ante to see if you cared, or "paying for your attention with sex". If you want to understand that comment, you'd have to read my link earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:30 PM
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This does not answer my question with regard to the above statement about attraction For me personally? All those years ago, when I might have been young and naive enough to try bad ONS sex? Can't be sure since too Christian to indulge. But now, I can't imagine how ONS sex appeals. The article says women attracted to ONS have huge physical turn ons, rather than physical. This would match what I've heard from women friends I've known who tried it. Such women were picky about his build, body shape…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:26 PM
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Most of your girlfriends, and probably you, would fuck Chad in a heart beat even if you knew there would be no orgasms in it for you. Occam's razor would say that's your sample bias. The type of woman you have pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:03 PM
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A guy takes a slice of pizza and lays his dick and balls on them then hands it to you. Will you eat it? Haa!!! LMAO. Maybe my husband & I will try it. I'll probably re-nig on eating the pizza though. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:50 PM
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Sausage Party OMG!!! Ha, ha, ha. Looks excellent. Thanks for the rec. I might have overlooked since I usually end up reading books rather than watching movies. Do you get Netflix streaming? I making my way thru "Stranger Things". Excellent. Did you try Orphan Black, Vikings, or Spartacus?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:08 PM
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I'm beginning to wonder as to whether or not you are reading my posts. I know they can be long, and you many not agree with them, Maybe I'm being too brief in my replies, to avoid TLDR. I've only been replying with why it's hard for me to agree with you. I won't elaborate and let you ask questions if you have any. Modern economics are a huge topic, easy to oversimplify. So I'll handwave arguments which sound dodgy for blaming only the sexual revolution for why extended families are no longer any…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:02 PM
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Lifts bag of Miss Vickie's jalpeno chips I got a gallon of Breyer's in the freezer. Extra dark chocoloate. Maybe a small bowl for each of us? I love your party. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:40 PM
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Thus, it's not so much that women are always on the lookout for someone more alpha. I'm sure there is an element of this. It's more that in many cases we just get sick of being confined to one partner, stuck with one person, and we grow to resent them. Nice!! Good empathy to acknowledge that women have human motives too, and not mysterious hypergamy monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:38 PM
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gets popcorn and tea and sits Would you like some chips with that popcorn? Do you lose the urge to argue? :-) I'm wondering about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:22 PM
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When they become terrible, abusive or a danger to their lives, they break up. And that is when her standards become astronomical. The next guy has to be 100x better or she will resent him for conjuring up memories of her bad relationships. Those same girls are going to turn bad and hold their next boyfriends accountable for crimes committed by the first asshole. This actually sounds like how RP react to break ups, and then have terrible standards for women thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:21 PM
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Reality Probably this reddit crosses different dimensions. In a way, that is true Ha!! Makes sense. :-) But damn, I used to think u/Atlas_B_Shruggin joked a lot, but this quote sounds like those fake women accounts & blogs. Even Lundy Bancroft's take on sex in abusive relationships was different. Attraction and make up sex are the glue that keep "abusive" relationships together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:18 PM
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No. I believe that human beings are divine space unicorns :-) advise you to identify (hah) as an independent if you ever want to be taken seriously. I'll hear your joke though. Cool! It's a jokey thought related to Carl Sagan's book "Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors", about evolution, and how human thought sometimes resembles other primates. Some internet threats against those who "identify as feminist" quite resemble baboon threats. Baboons don't use tools either, like chimps. Anyway, the outcome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:13 PM
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We need to create a system where the government covers only essential costs, and each individual covers their cost of living. Prior to the "sexual revolution" families were independent, self sustaining units. It wasn't a perfect system, but it was a better system. Families paid for their decisions to have a child, not strangers. Families paid for their inability and benefited from their ability to save for retirement, not strangers. Let's clarify causality. If you look at history, guilds, antiqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:35 PM
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The umbrella of feminism just encompasses entirely too much crazy and make believe at this point and I would advise you to identify (hah) as an independent if you ever want to be taken seriously. Are you an evolutionist? :-) If you are, I've got a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:22 PM
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You also let your guard down more and are more pliable/susceptible to pressure. One thing the RP fails to understand... A lot of men have no idea what it's like to be surrounded by constant sales pitches for sex. When you're sober & secure, they have no appeal, your immune system is good. But when life deals you a blow, your guard drops, and then suddenly these guy's attention is appealing. She want to believe he's right, that sex makes thing better. She goes along with the fuck, and then realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:12 PM
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How does this relate to ONS. My best answer to that would be in this article, written by a feminist sex expert. QUOTE Aside from the apparent gender split, what are the characteristics of people who experience casual sex as usually fun, those who experience it as usually boring, and those who experience it as usually destructive? From my experiences and observations, it seems to me that people who absolutely love casual sex often: Have a lot of physical turn-ons (as opposed to psychological ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:09 PM
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Not to be mean and not saying there's anything wrong with it, but that IS kind of insecure. You wouldn't approach because of a potential negative reaction to your appearance. Perspective. Women also don't approach because the PAY OFF is nothing. Why approach for a pump & dump? Scoring sexually is a loss for a woman, and a gain for a man. This is where sexual fluidity helps women too. She can find a man in her league which will give equal & BETTER tingles because more security & better connection…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:03 PM
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That is the woman's choice. Her choice has a cost, and she should be the only one to bear it. Every civilization has it's own economics dealing with huge costs of the next generation. Human children are incredibly expensive. Your attitude reflects our wider society's attitude that it's a woman's choice (like toothpaste brand), and therefore she should eat the entire cost of the child, along with any man foolish enough to share costs. Lower fertility rates might reflect the reality of "No Sale". …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:54 PM
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It's quite self assuring to know that you could have married for wealth or an easy life but you turned it down anyway. It's got a feel-good moral factor to it. Good point! Also, it sounds like the type of joke women tell to lighten up a conversation involving financial struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:37 PM
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Can you give me an example of femboy? Misha Collins seems the type, but older.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:34 PM
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The problem is, most people can't hold two ideas in their mind at the same time to form a complex thought. A PR firm would tell you that blaming the public won't help your image or sales. But I agree that heuristics and other mental short cuts exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:29 PM
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I'm talking about the other 99% of feminist propaganda. There is a criticism of the manosphere that it argues with imaginary feminists in their heads, and not as a result of research of real feminist. I don't argue that trying to destroy family is wrong. Instead it's how you paint targets with that brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:27 PM
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Women had the chance, opportunity and the tools to earn the respect by proving that, when they are given equal opportunity, they become equal. You realize that the easiest way around the "maternity dilemma" is for career women to skip child bearing? Many guys & younger women don't realize that suppressing desire for children is a hell of a lot easier than having them. I mention this because I've seen some RP threads complain about career women low fertility numbers. And the hard route would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:24 PM
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Quite a story. The Woodstock era was full of them. What matters is what became influential, and Kate Millet & NOW seemed more focus on practical things, like reproductive freedom...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:11 PM
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dismissing us in bad faith as an overblown caricature. Look in the mirror when you say that. You understand how it works because "takes one to know one". If I was only dismissive, I wouldn't come here presenting the facts which disagree with RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:03 PM
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It's not just body image issues. Both men & women struggle with a deep sense that they are unworthy of what they want. It gives me hope that some in the RP actually seem interested in women's experience, because the genders are closer than you think, if we could only understand each other. Then again, many in RP act exactly as women fear, "There are no good men". This article beautifully describes why women sometimes don't seek orgasms. Plus it has a great alternate explanation for female behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:58 PM
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Women obtained the opportunity to earn (which is what the fight for equality achieved), but then they started pushing to be given. Are you referring to divorce law?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:45 AM
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No, that's not true at all. ?? Only feminists are toxic? Have you been to the DMV? Or watched CNN?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:44 AM
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For TRP to stop being hated they need to get at least some ethics going and stop being "Amoral DARK TRIAD for the win!!" Yeah, that does make it harder to cheer for the shy guys getting the girl. :) Plus it gets too disturbing to be fun internet entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:23 AM
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Our society would be lucky if Feminists were the only source of toxic. :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:20 AM
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Great post! "Women find it validating" is a theory that sounds like garbage. Here's an article by a real woman with tips for how women can enjoy casual sex. She doesn't mention validation as a pleasure. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:17 AM
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None of this has anything to do with 3rd wave campus feminism. Is this the type of feminism you object to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:38 AM
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If you want to talk about people following dark triad leaders, look into politics, organized religion, big business, and so on. I learned about DT via RP. No one else is interested, although the real world has examples no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:36 AM
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How does that have anything to do with ""change the world to not be destructive". I don't know what to tell you if you don't understand that the world is less destructive when children are more protected economically & psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:34 AM
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It was the next logical step in humanity. But the truth is, this is the great war of our generation. Are we going to let it destroy the definitions of masculinity, femininity, fatherhood, motherhood and family units? What do you mean "next logical step in humanity"? I agree with you on that. But that the fight for equality was NOT required? Also, are you certain it isn't a slew of other things eroding family, such as economic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:30 AM
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Answered here. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/59rps5/feminism_is_the_female_version_of_the_red_pill/d9cb6qr/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:27 AM
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Part of what the 2nd wave wanted to do was destroy Patriarchy, destroy the family unit and replace it with communism. I'll quote 2cd wave Feminist Judith Lewis Herman, about a long-time overlooked Feminist agenda, having fathers interact more with children. Many of the causes that women have supported most passionately in the last century—temperance, animal rescue, the suppression of vice—can best be understood as attempts to get men out of the barroom, the game pit, the whore house, and into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:25 AM
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There is plenty of very well reasoned criticisms backed in science which are hand-waved away as misogyny. I hope you mean more than Evo Psych here. :-) Also, most social science observational studies aren't definitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:22 AM
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First and second wave feminism accomplished things that were good for all, but feminism as it is today is, for lack of a better word, toxic. I'm not sure radfems are creating the toxic though. When I first heard of Andrea Dworkins in the 1990's, I couldn't bring myself to read her books. They seemed OTT. Imagine my shock decades later to wonder if she had a point, when I saw glimpses of misogyny as a fetish on Tumbrl. Just as there is always some Radfem, there are guys out there proving them rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:21 AM
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Feminism is not some peace seeking ideology. That's because slavery is the bad kind of peace. Hey, retro quote... Capt. Apollo: I came from a world where the people believed that the opposite of war was peace. We found out the hard way that the opposite of war is more often slavery. I would like to see more happiness & liberty for everyone. But it's not free. Clinging to lies doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:11 AM
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I'm glad you acknowledged 1st/2cd waves as good for humanity. There 3rd wave had many fronts. Some were sex positive, and inclusive. Because of TRP, I read Wikipedia entries on Andrea Dworkin. Funny, this line from one of her books reminds me of TRP. This is nihilism, or this is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:05 AM
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Can you make a popup book? Reddit wouldn't let me share it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:52 AM
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White Nationalists in your sidebar. Not the most savory thing to have. I'm glad someone mentioned it. :) What really killed me about TRP is that they are both frightening and sad. I expected to be angry, and instead I couldn't help but feel for some of those guys. It's not like women have it all together on the dating front either. But then, I see how TRP's advice will only create additional barriers. "Alpha" isn't the only strategy, for it's a harder reach for some. I should just leave Reddit &…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:44 AM
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Blatant misinterpretation of LMR, You guys might want to consider a PR firm. No one is trying to make LMR sound bad. It sounds bad all on it's own. In some cases, maybe it isn't. But it's a subject that's hard to make sound good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:43 AM
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I confirm what I read because it reflects my experience with how things work. That's how it always starts, for every person who regrets following a teacher or guru. If it was obvious, they wouldn't be a danger. If their wasn't hurt or need/demand, they wouldn't have an angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:54 AM
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cringy, awkward attempt at implementing a very simplistic version of TRP Watch out for losing your credibility with hyperbolic reactions. But I changed the language about forcing sex when she's hurting. Actually, I'm trying not to read too much into your objection. I don't want to imagine that you guys actually have compassion for women, when you're just defending reputation & accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:53 AM
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If they saw it like that, then they probably wouldn't do it. Unintentional doesn't comfort onlookers who'd prefer less blindness. Anyway, I'm glad you agree TRP wouldn't appreciate that. I do see TRP correcting folks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:33 AM
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So yeah, I'll stand by what I said: if you handle it like that, you are the exception from the rule. It depends on where you start "romantic trajectory". A few of my suburban women friends knew the guy for months without any romantic thoughts, thru some other social activity. But then yes, a romantic trajectory started which ended in sex after she developed interest, which he had too. I don't count that as "no to yes" because the interest didn't develop in a dating context, even the guy joined t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:27 AM
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Do you RPW acknowledge hypergamy? And do you think it is a major problem in society and men/women relations? When you say "hypergamy", do you mean just normal attraction? Like how men are attracted to celebrities but presumably date women within their league? Or are you talking about why LTRs fail?
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/16 12:22 AM
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This is my first post here at RPW, thanks to all for welcoming me. Mine too. ;-) So I can't welcome you. I can say I enjoyed your post. It was good of you to take so much time to share relevant info. Be the best of yourself Agreed, one of my rules. It surprising how satisfying that can be.
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/16 12:14 AM
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"Don't listen to women" is never meant to say anything about ignoring them when they say something hurts I didn't say it was in the sidebar. But RP does create an attitude that creates those type of situations. It seems chancy on whether taking the pill helps or hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:00 AM
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whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:40 PM
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I'll go realtalk for this one Cool. i hope to reply more at length later when I have time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:39 PM
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Yes, a lot of women do, and they aren't 'rape victims' because they weren't raped. Media coverage & internet echo chambers make that danger seem a lot more likely than it is. Plus it just leads to more disconnect between the sexes because women see a lot more false rape statistics like the following, created by law enforcement fails. Quote And no one hates truly false allegations like a rape survivor. But we should balance that with the knowledge that the “official” numbers are not an accurate r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:37 PM
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Maybe a better assertion/question is "why are those guys hurt and inexperienced and how can men help them?" Here's a quote from Susan Walsh. Bottom of page Basically, TLDR, perpetuating the myth that everyone is getting laid except "your customer" won't make "your customer" happy. As Walsh puts it, most of the leftover men are “have nots” in terms of access to sex, and most of the women—both those who are hooking up and those who are not—are “have nots” in terms of access to male attention that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:31 PM
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WTF? Where is that said anywhere in TRP? A FR I can't find now. But it's a case of how telling men not to listen to the woman can lead to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:28 PM
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What I've learnt from TRP is that to be atractive you have to be independent. If you need the one you're going for you're already gonna loose. Cool. But I think that your life experience was already teaching you that too, which is why you recognized it as truth. But my distinction means you have a healthy instinct to trust as well as bros who look out for you. I might also get a dog! I realy like dogs. I bet that makes you happy, and happiness attracts. hugs & luck
/r/TheRedPill28/10/16 08:26 PM
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Drop that and acting against men's best interests won't be hypocrisy anymore. If only you guys were more knowledgable about "real feminists".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:20 PM
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So stop clutching your pearls and gasping already. Not funny McGee. Sounds hostile. :) Also, you're the one whose love life will suffer by trusting BS reports about dating. The RP doesn't affect me personally, so I have no investment to gasp over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:19 PM
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It has nothing to do with the guy's frame. Older women are simply less desirable. How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:13 PM
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Domestic violence being real Do you agree DV is real? My point was DV was real. We're getting offpoint, and into symantics over language history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:12 PM
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Right, as I've said before look it up. It's not hard to find. Actually there is a lot of noise(Evo Psych articles) to sort thru to find signal. Also, you are the one who made the unbelievable claim that there are more subs of women dedicated to slut shaming then male subs. Frame doesn't substitute from backing up your claim. It happens in business too, implying someone else is mistaken to misdirect attention from the weakness of your own position. So I'll just write off your claim, since it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:03 PM
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Are you implying that seasoned RP writers are all unattractive dark triads lying about being sexually successful in order to sell books and trick beta guys into believing their rhetoric? "All" would be oversimplifying. But you've got to admit some is likely. "Buyer beware." What really stand out to me is how advertisers try to stir people to be discontent with their lives to buy a product. Then, a normal struggling guy might feel even worse about his progress compared to guys like the Black Drag…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:46 PM
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This would make you the exception from the rule. This tells me you don't know many mainstream type people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:39 PM
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For being a Jedi, you're awfully naive about the Sith. Tsk tsk. No substitute for experience in curing naivety. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:37 PM
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I'm not saying RP condones it. I'm saying RP sounds ignorant of the history of Feminists battle with these issues. Then RP assumes "Feminists hate men" from arguments which were developed fighting power abuses from the past. But... RP does have a lot of guys assuming rape victims make it up. RP does also advise men to use techniques used in domestic abuse. Authorities fighting DV (like Lundy Bancroft) say that RP is very bad for men being asked to change abusive behaviors which are destroying ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:36 PM
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Yeah, no, please try again Read your own reference, which said that domestic violence was real. The "myth" is a quibble about the origin of the phrase "rule of thumb" which existed before the wife beating cases in 1800's. Here, article quote... Yet ... there can be no doubt that wife-beating was once common and, in most legal circles, acceptable if it didn't "go too far." The origin of "rule of thumb" may not be accurate, but the culture that it calls to mind was real. Debunking the myth of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:13 PM
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Counting subs is ridiculous Agreed. Not doing. You were the one who claimed women are the primary slut shamers. "Primary" implies more than simple majority. Also, this is PPD. RP has a lot of harsh posts about slut behavior to overlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:15 AM
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Rollo who seem quite sexually successful. Has anyone seen Rollo or his wife? I realize he doesn't sound as bad as the rest. But my BS detector has gone off way too much lately for me extend any kind of trust. An abundance of practiced liars can do a lot of damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:11 AM
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I didn't make any comment on the value of either movement I won't quibble on your intent. I agree it's a fair point about "changing self" vs "changing society". At least on paper, if more RP actually improved, and less blaming. But my intent wasn't about "value", but misrepresenting feminists and putting words in their mouth. Actually, the blatant misrepresentation of feminists & women in general is where RP lost it's credibility with me. So it is right for PPD posts to call BS on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:06 AM
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I know it's not blind belief. Rather, it's belief when you are hurt, inexperienced, which means vulnerable. If you were happy with your dating life, you wouldn't go to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:45 AM
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Not really. I'd count TRP, MRP, and MGTOW as part Reddit's slut hating talks subs. Males outnumber the female subs. Not sure what you're counting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:43 AM
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Is it impossible to hope that you understand it's not that anyone has a problem with pleasure, just when there is a power imbalance which forces someone to dehumanize themselves to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:40 AM
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3 months ago, her x reached out to her and they started an emotional affair. He lives in Germany, and all evidence points toward they haven't seen each other since before I met her. 90% sure they haven't fucked. Yeah, that's how irrationally jealous men think
/r/askMRP28/10/16 05:16 AM
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Women are the primary slut shamers. Really? Are there more female subreddits complaining about female sluts than male subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:39 AM
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they exclaimed they were against prostitution because of its contribution to male pleasure. Oversimplified misrespresentation. The objection was when "male pleasure" made it legitimate to turn women from people into things, commodities. Granted it's a fine line to tell when a person has become a commodity. But 3rd world prostitution does exist, etc... Lots of big words, TLDR, and not everyone agrees. But her argument can't be dismissed as irrational. Quote We are also largely concerned with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:30 AM
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Most Women definitely suffer from penis envy. Only when their BP husband obediantly drops his pants so she can brag about it to her lady friends. The RP has totally ruined this tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:21 AM
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I have never seen a feminist openly support the idea that men should be able to buy sex if they want to. Why is it feminist responsibility to champion this? Why isn't MRA championing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:31 AM
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Feminism is about changing the world to fit your ideals of success More like "change the world to not be destructive". Don't blame rape victims and protect the perpetrators. "Rule of thumb" wife beating shouldn't be legal. Children can't consent to sex. (2cd wave feminist Judith Lewis Herman) Women aren't natural masochists suffering from penis envy. (Phyllis Chesler, Nancy Chodrow)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:29 AM
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She will have proof that you are weak, she will have proof that you are a beta. This will literally disgust her. But as a man I am tought to be hounest to the people you care about and that cared about you. I will not be able to live with myself if I just manipulated and left someone that has previously given so much to me. Being a man is about always giving a second chance but also leaving when there's no progress. I will not let her destroy me is what I've learnt from this. Being honest about …
/r/TheRedPill28/10/16 02:12 AM
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but they are not ok with those choices contributing to the pleasure of men. How do you deliberately misread the feminist's or other women's intentions?? There's no objection to male pleasure. Only objection to harming the woman. Are men really so blind that they can't see that some men are dangerous, and women are right to be guarded and take precautions?? Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:39 AM
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When you sell a service, your entitling a customer to that service, given some payment you are receiving. Do you disagree with the millions of small business owners with a sign like below? Restaurant, bar, or stores sometimes get awful customers. When it comes to sex, you know that there are angry men... We reserve the right to refuse service.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:31 AM
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What is your final statement to the audience at large about your side of the argument? TRP was fascinating. Some of it rings true. But then I realized, a lot of it is based on unreliable witnesses. PUA bloggers who are selling dating advice have a lot of reason to not play it straight. I checked the Black Dragon's site yesterday. Yes, I believe a man can arrange MLTR, non-exclusive. But Black Dragon still sounded like he was full of crap, and only had shallow experience with women. Mark Manson w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:22 AM
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Welcome to the life of a woman. It 'a wonderful to get all those extra messages on match, isn't it? Holy crap. Now I don't regret older & married. :-| PPD leaves me extra appreciative of my husband. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:02 AM
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Are you saying the 'friendzone' is a fallacy? Why? In my early twenties, I never fucked a guy I dated. Only friends. I wouldn't call friend zone a test, but I guess it acted that way for me. If he liked me as a friend, then I knew he wasn't just after sex. I meant real friend, with some common point of interest, and not some overly helpful "oribiter" type. I could only feel attraction when unpressured, and then I'd noticed how attractive a friend was, what a great guy, what great chemistry we ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:53 PM
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Has a guy ever turned your no into a yes? (Or even a Yes!) Not outside a LTR or dating/friendship relationship. I've never had casual meeting turn into sex. Then again, like millions of other young women, I don't hang out in bars for excitement. I didn't date outside my social cirlcle. Etc.... Women who hang out in bars are a different animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:44 PM
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In some way they are insecure about their social interactions or compare themselves to images of other people they themselves have created. Agreed. Plus it can't help guys struggling with dating to compare themselves to these "player" web sites. There might be some truth to them, but they I also detect a lot of BS in them too. I don't think he's doing as well as he says, but it's the entertainment image. http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2011/10/30/when-she-suddenly-vanishes-from-the-discussion/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:36 PM
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I wouldn't be interested in committing to an open relationship You mean she's exclusive and you are not? What exactly are you commiting to then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:43 AM
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Like the others say, it doesn't work. If you convince her she might feel bad and understand it somehow but that will make her think less of you. I trust you have experience in this, even if hard experience taught me the opposite. Different strokes. I've found that the cost of never speaking your truth seems worse with the passing of years. Who cares if she respects him less if they split?
/r/TheRedPill27/10/16 02:52 AM
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TL:dr Broke up with gf who had BPD, guilt tripped like crazy, feel like shit, I took a stand for me, Don't know if I did the right thing. You absolutely did. You might have saved her future kids from a ton of mommie issues by giving her a wake up call. Never go along with a relationship which feels wrong. Eventually your family & friends will wake up to this.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/16 09:42 PM
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I wish I could tell her straight up what a shit she's been to me. Do it. Do it for yourself. Do it because your truth deserves to be spoken. I found out the hard way in mid-life that the worst regrets which sting the most come from betraying my own heart, such as not speaking my truth, or defending something my heart thought was important. Most regrets lessen with time, but not heart betrayals. Do it because it's the only way to find out if the relationship is worth saving. The relationship end …
/r/TheRedPill26/10/16 09:21 PM
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It's like that old saying, "There are lovers and fighters". There are guys I really enjoy arguing with, and banter. But somehow that's not a turn on for me. My energy for him can be diverted from sex into teasing, fun, and other things. Also, I find it a turn off when a guy is blind to everything but his own theory. But self awareness is a huge turn on. If he's aware of the argument's pluses and minuses, that's very attractive. If he's sure the other side is just stupid, ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:18 PM
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I like to have my views challenged. Me too. That can make the friendship extra interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:08 PM
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the stronger male sex drive isn't a fiction invented by the global patriarchal high command to further oppress the XX community. I don't think that they believe it's fiction. But they don't understand how much they "don't get it". I'm older, so I know my limits. I know my imagination can't tell me what it's like to have 10x the testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:57 PM
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Some quality guys don't want a submissive girlfriend. More needs to be said. Fight the TRP stereotype! I like variety myself. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:24 PM
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It's good to be an attractive woman at a bar. It's easier to find new people goof around & engage. It can be good to be a woman on a dating site or fling site. But it's a plus a lot of women don't choose. I love the social communities of women who share their love or romance or fan fiction online & become friends. It's bad to be a woman during an IT meeting where the guy in charge doesn't seem to hear anything I say, until a male friend coworker repeats it. Then said male coworker confirms, yep,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:14 PM
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I would be very upset at him for lying TRP is so different from what my husband says in real life that I'd wonder if he had Multiple Personality Disorder. So I might leave because he's crazy or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:51 PM
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The ancient world was fraught with anal sex and they had no porn to speak of, other than some risque heiroglyphs. I like history, and now I'm interested. Do you have as source for me to check on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:48 PM
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anal in porn? O_o its fucking awesome Is the awesome part giving or receiving for you? :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:43 PM
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I just don't understand why anyone would think that most men are like that. A little goes a long way. If you run up against the strong-flavored ugly, it is hard for forget. Kind of like TRP. I was looking for one of your old posts saying that "RP men" or some kind of men weren't just losers who wouldn't be missed. But it's not that I think you're losers who don't matter (at least not some of us). Some of the resistance to RP is that it's horrifyingly bleak, and so people will cling to abundant e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:20 PM
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Makes sense. But stupid/mean/horrible exists. This is why no one should say everyone is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:37 PM
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The only women I know who want Alpha males are fucking insane. I don't have any women friends who hang out in bars looking for sex. A coworker used to do that, and everyone thought she was way screwed up. Most women I know are career women, and they are working HARD, and won't accept a man who doesn't respect them. When I look at history & some of the evolutionary arguments, I see females REQUIRED to service the alpha, but really she sneaks off with the male whom she has affection for. A button …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 12:03 AM
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In this situation, would you tell her boyfriend or husband about this? Why or why not? Depends. Why did she do it? Is her LTR on its last legs? Is their marriage open? Is she going thru a horrific break up?? Did she recently discover her husband has been cheating on her?? Did she accidentally try E for the first time? Is the guy she hooked up with "Brad Pitt", and her marriage has a "Friends" style agreement that certain celebrity sex opportunities are handwaived? Is she an inconsiderate jerk wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:26 PM
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for reference, the first pictures of each of these that come up on google: Jordan Barrett Chico Lachowski Simon Nessman Sean O'Pry This post gives me hope that Puahate/Sluthate/Lookism will turn gay. So many would be so much happier if men could be sexually attracted to other men they respect. I'd feel easier knowing that women who date them won't be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:18 PM
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So what did she have to gain by wanting to fuck him? I'm just saying she didn't do it for self esteem. Also, not all low-SMV women are the same. I bet your buddy's neighbor is older, and so doesn't give a fuck what people think about her sex life. This leads to women experimenting with sex more. The point I'm trying to make is that the reason many women aren't fucking low-SMV men is because they are worried what others think, and not because they're pining for some Chad. Worrying what others thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:11 PM
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There are lots of reasons to want others to be less confident. Insecure people are more likely to let you walk over them and cater to your whims. Confident people are more likely to be arrogant and less likely to seek your approval. Sound like insecure women are easier to control, and feel better than.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:57 PM
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Are there truly foreveralone type women out there who haven't been laid in years, live alone in their apartment, no friends, no solid social circle, weak social skills, and absolutely can't get any dick whatsoever? Yes, but that's because they aren't trying, and don't believe that dick will solve anything for them. Sex is why they don't trust men enough for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:55 PM
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it just means that the SMV of women is relatively low compared to the SMV of the most attractive men. Huh?? Why is low-SMV-female getting laid by way-hi-SMV-male if she is intrinsically lower than him??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:49 PM
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fat is unattractive. u/DarkLord0chinChin seems really obsessed with fat. It reminds me of the study where homophobes were more aroused by gay porn. Now I'm wondering if u/DarkLord0chinChin is conflicted with his secret desire for land whales. Or maybe u/DarkLord0chinChin is just fat himself? My buddy even refers to her as a nasty fat pig but that didn't stop him from getting his dick slobbered down by her. I'm glad u/darkmoon09's buddy stays classy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:47 PM
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Just the other day that same woman was complaining about how she got asked out by some weirdo creep at the store, probably by a guy who couldn't possible look any more bad than she does, yet she thought she was above him because she may occasionally get fucked by guys like my buddy. Right here is the disconnect. Women DO NOT get validation by having been fucked. Women's self esteem comes from other sources. Men's self esteem seems more related to sex. I remember Mark Manson said something simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:37 PM
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What if Men Disappeared? Remember "Rosie the Riveter" back during WW2?? When the men went to war?? Yeah, that again. Losing 90% of the men would be a wet dream for remaining guys, but NOT good for civilization. But as for sex & reproduction, I can see tons of women sighing in relief that they won't disappoint their mother if they don't have kids. They can enjoy their independence & relief from family responsibilities. I see a lot of women opting out, and not particularly interested in repopulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:10 PM
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I love men. Me too. I love the emotional simplicity of men, & other things. Viva la difference!! But I'm not RP enough for this thread perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:52 PM
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I know leftism pushes this idea, but we're really really not. Most of the country has extremely low population density. Agreed. Overpopulation isn't happening in the USA, except maybe overpriced yuppie enclaves like NYC and San Francisco bay area. I mention this because it's almost funny how it's always privileged, educated white who claim overpopulation, and they're the ones least likely to have experienced it. They're least likely to have grown up in an overpopulated house, or gone homeless, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:44 PM
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Well said. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:27 PM
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Ha, ha. I take it that you're male. Now I'm wondering if you're normally attracted to men. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:15 AM
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I wish everyone was required to have a therapist. Me too. Oh wait. Many therapists are crappy. Shucks. Otherwise, I'd totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:01 AM
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The disgusting reality of the female nature and my outmoded instincts are why I became an RP after all. I'm glad you decided not to be Dark Triad, even for a "woman's love". That's a great moral choice. I agree with some observations from TRP, but some conclusions seem self defeating & wrong. This seems like a huge logic leap from, "Some women fail at relationships, cheat, or don't know how to save it, or ask for help." I wonder if you grew up in a family with DV. I did. The daughters in those r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:00 AM
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Sex you don't want is as valuable as a job you don't want. THIS. It's not that men are bad. But a woman's sexual response is tricky. It's actually hard to find good sex, safe, exciting, & patient. Men's sexuality seems a lot less complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:18 PM
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So if you're a male and you want protection, assistance, or to be seen as innocent, then fuck you. If your a female and you want to be seen as a strong, capable adult, then fuck you. Ha!! Perfect! ITA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:02 PM
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I agree that both men & women don't really understand themselves or each other. God knows teen agers could be taught more about dating than those Jr High health classes. Women buy the "Iron Man" press that men can't be hurt, but it's probably oversimplification to just say men are more sensitive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:30 PM
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THIS!! Financial factors could be depressing relationships. In the past, children were a retirement plan. Now, a woman's choice to have a kid puts a huge dent in her 401K. Good book on it, "The cost of motherhood"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:16 PM
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I don't know what your source is. But I do know that "spotting douches" abilities is dependent on context variables like: have you seen them in action, length of exposure, and experience level of observer. It sounds like you're saying that it's all a woman's fault if the high N count woman gets insulted by a guy who just enjoyed intimacy with her. She was asking for it? Attitudes like this are why many think that the RP is too harsh on women. A man doesn't want a relationship with a high N count…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 12:04 AM
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I used to also. The feminine role doesn't have as good as press. I think it's partly why so many career women de-prioritize relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 10:27 PM
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I thought more of u/life_is_fatal's posts before this thread. So the guy can treat her like crap just because of her high n count, and she's the bad one if she doesn't like it? The kind of guy to insult a woman he has just had sex with to her face is the kind of guy that's a douchebag all the time. Unfortunately, the douchebags aren't that easy to spot. Guys can be selectively douche, particularly with those they perceive as less valuable/status. But I don't want to get into anecdotal arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 10:25 PM
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Cool. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 10:18 PM
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;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:17 PM
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Charmer. I was seeing how much this sub is actually a debate, and how much just entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:17 PM
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Doesn't that mean they shouldn't get upset or even care for that matter? Depends. Did he just insult her about it? After intimacy? Did he fail basic courtesy after she sucked his dick? Young males with "poor social skills" aren't the best for figuring why she got mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:15 PM
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If she gravitates to Thuggy and Harley McBadboy and Asshole Drugpusherson and Tommygun McMultipleFelon and Paul PrisonTerm and Willy WeaponsCharge and Al Coholic and..... Wow. Sounds like you had some interesting Ex gfs. I hope you wrapped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:00 PM
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I don't understand why high n-count women get upset when guys say they are undateable. Because it's a heuristic telling her that that particular guy is terrible. There's a good chance he's particularly judgmental, hypocritical, or doesn't realize how much he resents or hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:56 PM
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I thought that "poverty" explained those stats equally well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:03 PM
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But I understand how it's easier to just call people assholes than to critically analyze things without the security blanket of your female privilege. Note that u/AwesomeSister looked thru u/DogfishSushi's comment history. u/DogfishSushi didn't research his opinion, although he was replying to a comment that seemed more insult than debate. I mention this because I watch RP & BP for who has the discipline to check their opinion against facts, & other checks against bias. Not that I let that get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:59 PM
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I want to be a provider in my relationships Some women feel that way because of self-esteem struggles. And other reasons. If her last boyfriend insisted on paying, and then he turns out to be abusive, she'll be suspicious the next time she sees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:40 PM
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Lots of other "funny bloggers" don't get "hate media". Hey, I'll even say being controversial isn't a bad strategy to earn fame & eyeballs on the internet. Why do you care what people think about Scott Adams?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:37 PM
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Thanks! I'll Google to see if there is a way to upvote without buying Gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:32 PM
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Some women have problems with self control and act like whores and other women are capable of telling the guy to buy them dinner first. False dichotomy. There's at least a 3rd choice where women run the other way toward respectability. But other possibilities like feeling out of their league, wants him to notice her good work, or noticing that he's annoying. The rest of us men have to live knowing that we will always be second best in the tingles department. If children didn't need dad's in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:13 PM
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I tend to write them off as out of my league. I did that too, during my years of maximum SMV. Terribly unfortunate. I much prefer being in the "provider" role, and cannot do that if he's rocking a fat wallet. Oh man. You are not alone, other women feel that too. There's always lazy playboys looking for such women. Be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:13 PM
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Zing. :) Succinct argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:10 PM
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I think that most people are aware that a lot of women find wealth and power an irresistible aphrodisiac. Ugh. I agree that a lot of women find wealth & power attractive. But not "an irresistible aphrodisiac". There are other reasons why those same women get into it. They don't get enough excitement otherwise, or it's their job. Also, it can be like scorekeeping, banging the richest guy, like the "HB" rating system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:07 PM
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Huzzah!! B-) I'm new to Reddit, but harder won agreement is fun. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:54 PM
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Obviously he doesn't. :-) Maybe Scott is an example of not maintaining frame? Others certainly don't agree with his.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:45 PM
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losing credibility with who for years? and why? I Googled Scott Adams & saw years worth of complaints, including scienceblogs. He got involved in the Creationism arguments too, not just complaints about misogyny. Political mud too. I'm not going to do a full blown investigation. It's a case of "where there is smoke there is fire", and different quarters are calling him flaky. Plus, it's not like he got targeted for defending something important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:41 PM
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Thanks!! I wish I could. But I'm not willing to pay for Reddit Gold yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:37 PM
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Even in a serious relationship? No. If a serious relationship is on the table, then it's fair game, in a respectful way, not for throwing in the face later, etc... It's tricky to share good information in a way that's not tacky. But such discussions are NOT fair game for STRs, friends, family, or other convos. Also, LTR possibility implies that some trust has been earned to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:36 PM
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Thank you. Yeah, porn fertilized my imagination too. In good ways & bad. :-P I still like looking at BDSM outfits though. ;-) Not that I'll risk looking for awhile. I think part of why women(me) liked BDSM images for awhile is because it requires dressing up. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:30 PM
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This meditation teacher is funny with good stories. Plus, unlike many, he warns people how meditation can fuck you up, and how to avoid that. Plus good stories about sex. http://www.lorinroche.com/benefits/dangers/dangers/miserable.html
/r/TheRedPill19/10/16 05:18 PM
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Classics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:26 AM
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I misread your comment. I thought you said your friends prefered porn to their gfs. Thanks for clarifying, the reverse makes more sense. Plus, you could write novels, good scene imagery there. ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:23 AM
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I think it's important to keep in mind that the circle of women who frequent clubs and bars with rich celebs almost perfectly overlaps the circle of women who are whores. Sssh! The truth endangers some women's jobs. Their employers have to believe that these women desire them. Just kidding (Adams tactic) Scott Adams story about his female friend might have been convincing, if Scott Adams hadn't been losing credibility for years. Salon had some nice coverage of his stance during this election. ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:15 AM
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women will do some nasty shit for status/money/power ;) Those women are vastly outnumbered by men who would pay for it. Or even pay to watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:01 AM
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The signals can be confusing because sexual attraction and celebrity-awe look the same to the observer. This sentence tells you a lot about Scott Adams, maybe Trump too. Extremely thin evidence. It doesn't help that no one here is buddies with billionaires, so none of us can prove or disprove squat. This post is like one of those baseless political allegations, where just the rumors color people's opinion. Years before McCain ran against Obama, McCain had lost a Republican nomination previously …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:59 AM
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are you a woman btw? if so I can see why you dont watch porn lol Yes I am a woman. I love my husband, so I torment peeps on the internet instead. Plus I have strange taste in humor. I like "Best of" porn gifs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:42 AM
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The working conditions are generally poor enough that they wouldn't be tolerated in any other industry, and most "stars" don't even make any money. Yeah, that soured me too. Clarissa Thorne said that women actresses can actually get hurt, and won't say anything for fear of losing their pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:38 AM
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Even the good sex scenes have a nasty tendency to suddenly zoom in on some dudes asshole, which is not cool. I've heard this from others. I don't know why it leaves me LMAO, thinking about a frustrated fapper seeing that. But it makes me glad that I'm too lazy to watch a vid, and instead just check Tumblr's amazing collection of GIFs. Or it did before Tumblr traumatized me. barely even see the girl, it makes me seriously question straight male sexuality. Glad I'm not the only one. :-) The dopami…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:18 AM
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I've gotten ideas from porn that have been great to implement. Do tell. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:10 AM
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Agreed. Real people didn't do money shots before the internet porn takeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:09 AM
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I used to occasionally look at porn GIFs on Tumblr, for inspiration, ideas, and focus. But then I got traumatized. I didn't particularly look for the BDSM gifs, but they are getting POPULAR, plus shocking & extreme. (Not the good type of shudder here) Back in my youth, our porn was sexy, and not soul-shriveling. Tumblr is a gasp. There are role playing communities that are unbelievable, or seem to forget they are role playing. Bimbofication, anal-only, female-orgasm-denial. Even the Marquis De S…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:04 AM
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By that logic, is a woman watching romantic comedies cheating? Only if she cums.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:53 PM
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I thought that the Purple Pill Debate was about realizing what's evil vs not-evil. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:48 PM
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I wish I could upvote. Ah well. There were running gags around the Andrew character similar to the joking in your replies. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:46 PM
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And you say women are illogical? Why does a guy want a girl friend where even the sex is a chore? Plus, he's got to pretend he enjoys it? That's crazy making.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:20 PM
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If he had a girlfriend, he COULD just have sex with her, but it would feel like too much work to do it, especially if he wasn't too attracted to her. To be clear, would having sex be "too much work to do it"?? Or is not humping the furniture the work part??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:14 PM
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Makes sense. Humans are still too complicated for science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:11 PM
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IMO a lot of making relationships work is both the man and the woman acknowledging and dealing with the overwhelming complexity of women's emotions/hormones, while men on their own are not all that complicated. Before or after the baby? Before the baby is relatively easier. By "her hormones" do you mean her desire for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:11 PM
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I find all discussions regarding exes to be pretty tacky to begin with. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:08 PM
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I just had a hunch you and Andrew could be great friends. Nevermind. :) Thanks again for the lols.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:04 PM
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Sounds easy. But it's also clear how kids throw off that balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:45 PM
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It makes sense that what women look for in men reflects not only what they want, but how they see themselves. Also, the pressure to be a "good girl" mother might make her blind to when she reaches breaking point, and runs off & acts whorish just to feel free again. But she can't do it near her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:44 PM
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Maybe u/Never_Evil should change his user name to Never_Thinks_Evil_Matters. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:41 PM
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Nah. I'm not gay. But I'd suck Achilles off. No homo tho. Oh God!! I can't believe you said. LMAO. I don't know if you intended to be funny, but hilarious none the less. Thanks! Did Achilles leave your jaw aching? He looks like he has endurance. So many straight guys never take the chance to discover that blow jobs are hard on the jaw muscles. Say, do you remember that character "Andrew" from Buffy & Angel?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:39 PM
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It's a paradox. It has to be appreciated what men do to keep their sex drive in check, but it's disturbing for women to think about that too much. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:33 PM
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There are alphas who are appreciated for altruism and fairness. Another word for "alpha" who are incapable of fairness would be "asshole". I cite the business book "No Asshole Rule". It had a case study where the Top Salesman for a store was clearly top of heirachy, but a jerk too. When the store lost it's Top Salesman, the overall actual sales for the store increased. Alpha Top Salesman's sales came at the everyone else's expense. Overall, he subtracted value, not added it. He was a "Vampire Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:33 PM
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I agree lying is an obvious bad. But I don't agree that evasion is deal breaker. I agree that a woman should not pursue a LTR with a man based on false pretenses. But I'd consider her N count to be none of his business for a STR. Men talk too. So it's fair for women to consider "N count" privileged information which has to be earned along with her trust. For some men, 5 is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:19 PM
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I call BS. That would make boys men too. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:12 PM
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Do you think that my worship of Achilles is not deserved? Yeah, a bit. But TBH, I wonder if you "hate" women because your idols will sleep with women before you. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:10 PM
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Hilarious! u/SkinnySweaty & u/VermiciousKnidzz
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:08 PM
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Fair enough. Male desire can't be relied on either, in many cases. If not her looks, I'm sure he can find other explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:05 PM
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men have sex to make everything feel okay. As I've gotten older, I realized that this is an incredible trick, a super-power gift. It wasn't until my husband got sick that I realized how sex keeps the hard knocks of life in perspective, and just adds to "joie de vivre". But I couldn't see this when I was younger, life was great, and I was almost overwhelmed fending off male sexual hunger. Youth is wasted on the young. :-) I know plenty of mothers who are actively turned off by their husbands afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:00 PM
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That doesn't mean that you shouldn't pay attention to the principles of economics, or that business leaders became successful through sheer luck... Will the human race ever be able to take the art out of science? :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:50 PM
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Good boys are basically obsolete, the slutcrew and the government has taken their jobs. You are calling it too early dude. :-) The revolution ain't done yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:41 PM
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Because the real prize is a relationship where you are loved and accepted for who you uniquely are, not just how averagely average you can be. I like your relationship ideals here, but not quoting them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:40 PM
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That's where most of this orbiting shit comes from. They prioritize beauty to the extent that a long shot is everything to them Thanks!! Makes sense. I never understood "orbiting" before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:37 PM
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Does this mean - yes, he really is very happy just with sex & attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:32 PM
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Ignoring her attempts to address problems in the relationship and then acting surprised when she cheats or leaves. Another great one!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:31 PM
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Yet, a-lot of women who also believe this will hide their n-count? Especially from men they are seeing. Can you be specific about you mean here? In my experience, your "N count" should never be public knowledge. Mentioning it can be awkward, akin to wearing your heart on a sleeve. Some "hiding" is appropriate, such as TMI. Also, it's a bad sign when a potential partner is grilling her about N count. Sounds like an insecure jealous type, so there are other factors in N count discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:23 PM
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He's as far from redpill as you can get. Agreed. :-) I wondered how RP theories would explain him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:06 PM
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but they completely fail at using biblical themes like perdition, purgatory or redemption for subtext or anything. Agreed. That part was disappointing because thought that the show had potential it never used. How they could have used it? I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:02 PM
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Over time he becomes ridiculously likable but he loses a lot of his hotness. That makes sense about Castiel. But then his admirers tried to stick his old character, and try to ignore what ruined that. It's hard to leave the Supernatural fandom, and that's what will happen when you lose interest in the characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:59 PM
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Guess what happens when SAHDs get together to let the toddlers play? They talk about their struggles. And guess what was a big one on every SAHDs mind? Ha, ha. What you're describing sounds plausible and amusing. SAHD's singing the blues. Yes, it'd be ironic and "human nature" that when women are pushed into the provider role, they are as imperfect as their fathers (generalizing). As a SAHD, do you agree that raising small children is an underrated job, particularly for women who work also? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:54 PM
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I'm thinking of feminist critiques of social studies. I'm not a social studies expert either. But I know something about qualitative research, which is the type of research used on human beings for insight, etc.. Research on human beings is inconclusive unless it's held to clinical standards, with double blind, and other checks against cognitive biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:44 PM
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it's ultra risky to assume that's the case, guys probably think it's safer to err on the side of less aggressive I don’t blame an inexperienced guy for wanting to NOT leap into dominance or aggression. Plus even experienced guys don’t leap into Dominance when relationship starts. But as a woman, I’ll make a suggestion on how to build momentum towards sex in a way which we’ll tell you beforehand if/how much she might appreciate bedroom Dominance. Once you reach “make out” stage, try caressing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:18 AM
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That shit doesn't work, it kills libido. Here's another fave of mine, I tell him what I want, and he looks put upon & unenthusiastic. I didn't ask for anything extraordinary. For instance, can you wait until 7pm? But no, he has to whack off earlier. Or I ask for a type of sensuous touching, etc... Please touch, kiss my neck more for warm up. Oh well, women aren't perfect at pleasuring guys either. But looking put upon is a deal breaker for me. Oh, and let me share a great, low-key bedroom trick …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:23 AM
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This video is the #1 reason why. Thank feminism. Actually, "Thanks Obama!" works better. Be careful what you blame Feminism for, or else people stop taking you seriously. Feminism is platform for people to say, "Confusing sex with rape is fucked up." But feminism didn't invent that confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:18 AM
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Every girl I've ever been with said I was good in bed, and with so many women talking shit behind men's backs about how bad they are in bed, I can only assume my exes were full of shit. She probably does think you're good in bed if she sticks around, and doesn't ghost on you. Harsh assumption about how women talk about you. Most women I know don't talk about "bad in bed". They're more likely to say "meh chemistry". A guy doesn't have to be dominant, but some bedroom fire, not selfish guy robot s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:08 AM
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I've been with a male virgin (my first too). I was honored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:46 AM
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But their are Evolutionary Psychologists who are doing work that is every bit as legitimate as any other social scientist, including working with a lot of academic rigor and the falsification of hypotheses. OK, fair enough. But that puts Evo Psych on same footing as feminist studies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:45 AM
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Complainer. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:44 AM
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There is a pretty good reason why a lot of marriages are sexless: the majority of women in these relationships don't want to have sex with their husbands. The DB sub seems to be at least 50% women with uninterested men. Just trying not to let stereotypes run away with us. /r/DeadBedrooms/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:15 AM
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It does the heart good to see truth in places without it. Your other posts look good too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:44 PM
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Hell, sometimes she can even be willing to have sex with him, and sometimes for her the sex is pretty good. But she is not nearly as attracted to him as she was to the men she used to fuck as a younger woman, and that's the key. I can't tell you how naive this sounds. I was engaged(not married) to an attractive alpha type, and have enjoyed "girl talk" for decades. What AF/BB "alpha widows" misses is that she left Chad for a reason. Or if Chad left her, that's more reason for her to think, "hot s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:28 PM
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'm sure everyone has friends who are ridiculously attractive but can't keep non-crazy girlfriends around past the casual stage because their perceived childishness/ immaturity/ whatever erodes attraction as soon as it starts negatively affecting the relationships. Exactly!! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:59 PM
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Source? Evidence? Factual basis? Bullshit!! You are not fooling anyone by demanding something which YOU DON'T HAVE EITHER. Most scientists don't take Evolutionary Psych seriously. It's not real science. The studies behind it are weak, poor sample size, methodology doesn't stand up to peer review.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:53 PM
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My response ignores the kid factor because it's a bullshit cop out. I've met plenty of women who had kids with their Chad husbands and they never lost attraction - you should see the way they 'mire their husbands. How do you know? Did Chad tell you about his married life? Married folks often posture even if they're in a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:48 PM
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Damn, you said it well. Every bit. If a guy was working 100 hours a week with small children, he'd be less interested in sex too. Yes, women don't have enough testerone to appreciate men's predicament, but men wouldn't feel accomodating either if they were exhausted with small children & their partner didn't seem to give a damn about it. Particularly great quote. He assumes it's that he's not getting laid. She assumes it's because she's underappreciated. Neither of them are wrong, but getting st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:34 PM
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What do I agree with about TRP? The Matrix was a great movie. Many men do seem to be massive sluts who just give up their dick easily to any floozy. So, women don't respect men because of their loose morals. But man-whores are people too. So man-sluts shouldn't undervalue themselves, even while they spend too much time looking for female sluts. Women appreciate men lifting and looking attractive. I'm all for eye candy even if I'm married and can't pull that dick. Confidence is attractive for all…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:30 PM
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Yes, birds of a feather also. I'm sure some cases are like that, but not definitely all. Also, whoa, I feel for any guy who doesn't think he can get a woman unless he saves her. First, low self esteem like that hurts. Second, that leaves him open to vengeful, damaged women. Ouch. There can be a lot of trip hazards in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:46 PM
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I'm not referring to your final conclusion, I'm referring to your statements about being less afraid of women, given that gay women are statistically more prone to violence against women than men are. Hmmm. We're not on the same page. I didn't even think of fear. My earlier point wasn't about "less fear of women". Instead I was just saying non-sexual teen sleepovers with women were incredibly fun, and hard to pass up. The point was that it wasn't an easy decision when I chose dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:39 PM
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I think that many Terpers are BPD guys. Ha! Funny because it sounds plausible. http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzrg2iWRvf1qaarijo1_r2_500.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:31 PM
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And chose the legendary Supernatural "I don't understand that reference"-reference. : ) It is a great reference. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:34 PM
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There were no quality guys around even willing to monogamy at a young age. To be fair, what young guys most often lack is maturity, which is to be expected for the young. Guys are harder on themselves & others than women. It's news for many women that a disinterest in sex is interpreted as a judgement of overall worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:19 AM
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Did you miss the part where I admitted that this is something to consider? Could be, can't remember. But I was proposing new food for thought rather than replying to every part of your message.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:11 AM
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why would you be less afraid of sleeping with an unattractive woman? Sounds like WaW to me. Huh? I said I'd prefer sex with a dude, because I'm not into women, sexually. I'm not Bi. But I prefer emotional sharing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:09 AM
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She sounded like she was being real about life, and not BSing. I wanted to say something reassuring, and had a Hug pic at hand. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:06 AM
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PS: Is Supernatural any good? The first 5 seasons are good. Some of the 6th. Steep down hill. But even the early seasons had mediocre episodes. The 4th season is considered some of the greatest, most iconic TV ever. The 2cd season is close. (Opinion of critic Mo Ryan & others)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:04 AM
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Agreed. Misha is someone who has cried on stage before fans too, and he's loved for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:22 AM
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Yes. Supernatural fandom is full of good, creative art by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:21 AM
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Misha is the king of the nerds. Plus he's got humor. But what's interesting about SPN is that it draws the sighs of non-nerd women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:00 AM
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I'm really not sure I could handle raising a girl. No one can. Knowing this makes you wise grasshopper. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:58 AM
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Cool! No BS! I like it!! Hug? :-) https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/81/af/14/81af14b100fb2392b619e9cfb2c75e23.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:57 AM
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but at least they aren't gay. Not that anything is wrong with that. I used to watch SPN, but had to bail after S6. The jokes about fangirl homoerotic fantasies were only hilarious the first 500 times I heard them. Actually, SPN fangirls were way too into it for my taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:32 AM
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Read my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:26 AM
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Seriously you women have some sick minds. That's rich coming from a "Femogyist asshole", whose flair name sounds like a Rectovaginal Fistula. Amusing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:17 AM
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But my feelz :( Aww, have a hug. http://img00.deviantart.net/65ba/i/2013/004/a/5/chibi_castiel_by_niji_panda-d5qgj39.png
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:09 AM
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woman said that for a straight woman to sleep with a guy she's not attracted to, it's the same as a straight guy sleeping with another guy, and another guy responds by saying that it's not the same I say that Woman->Man-No-Attraction is the same as Man->Man-No-Attraction on the basis that they are the same amount of experience points. Dick is like killing an orc. Pussy is like killing a owlbear. (Yeah, I just dated myself)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:07 AM
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ha, ha. Exactly. Plus I don't want to be hipster trendy about "all females are bisexual"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:00 AM
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When u/KoennonTiger starts banging dudes, he won't have to worry about child support or false rape accusations. Just man sweat dripping on you. Your lips locked with a scratchy face dude. Deep tongue probing. fans self Did I tell anyone I'm one of those straight women who likes gay porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:59 AM
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Thanks!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:54 AM
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Nah, because gentle timid betas are even more repulsive to women. I don't agree, although it's a dealbreaker if he's trying to be repulsive. :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:46 AM
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Isn't ''oneitis'' just the development of a crush/romantic feelings for a particular person? IDK. What I see described in the manosphere doesn't sound like the "crushes" I had, or my women friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:22 AM
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workinhg makes my mental health better. also the feeling of achievement and being useful and meaningful. Makes sense. Me too. Mommies alone with kids sometimes wish they could escape to work. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:20 AM
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"Women are wonderful" effect ALso, less "Women are wonder" and more that there's less fear she'll be harsh. Also, when I think of sleeping with a woman I imagine my best teen sleepovers. So it sounds like cosmic rapport to share it with a women, and that we'd "get" each other. OTOH, it's sex and I prefer dudes, even an unattractive one. So I'd rather fuck the unattractive dude. But not if I have to see him again, or he's scary or threatening. But meh unattractive dude sex seems better than unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:17 AM
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Sounds more like hamstering of women who won't admit tingles towards a dominant man. Sounds like you already have an answer, and any answer besides what you expect is wrong. It might be scary to consider that many women don't want dominant men so that they can become sheep. Some women want "dominance" so that they feel fully challenged, and better, that they don't have to hold back with him. For a science explanation, see Michael Bader's book on male sexuality or arousal. Also, another equally p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:10 AM
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Since I'm not a statistical average, when you say "Dominant Men" I think of the BDSM scene on Tumblr. I think the appeal is that primal emotions are hot, and BDSM adds a layer of safety. So it's like riding a roller coaster compared to vanilla sex, a nice change of pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:01 AM
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Wasn't Jorah lying to her the whole time about why he served?? He was really spying on her for pay. That lying vibe can be hard to forgive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:56 AM
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There have been researches that show men who work more have healtheir mental and physical lives. Live longer, etc. The opposite is shown to be true to women That is hard to believe. It sounds like study methodology might be off, like when polio was correlated to eating ice cream. Also, single motherhood was blamed for problems due to poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:51 AM
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Sounds compassionate, also like you feel you've had it rough, which sucks. I hope you don't torpedo your life over first world problems though. I've seen that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:48 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:45 AM
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He wants to be there for a woman, he wants a loyal woman and he wants to be the one in the relationship who takes care of stuff. He is attracted to women who fulfill these dreams. Ambitious project there. But no wonder it doesn't work. Women that damaged aren't always able to be loyal. (Not saying u/Elsanahai is damaged, but generally it's a risk.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:35 AM
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I hear this. Also it'd hurt my pride of workmanship. I don't think I can fake orgasms well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:33 AM
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Its just biological impulse ingrained in male brains to seek out women so humanity doesnt go extinct. Is there a biological impulse to work 9 to 5? Could you bang a guy rather than punch a clock? You don't have to like it. THen again, I can think of one reason. Gay dudes might be put off if their sugar baby doesn't get an erection, which women don't have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:42 PM
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Women aren't having children because they are saints and want to give to the unborn generation, life. They give birth because it suits them, to spread their genetic lineage and to achieve biological immortality. It sounds like you have no friends who are parents, who love their families & want to continue & graduate to next level of adulthood. It's amazing how you make parenthood sound selfish. Plus it's really cheeky to think you know better than women what woman's true motives are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:38 PM
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Women aren't like that! I don't date jerks! I care about personality not looks! It's a matter of degree. It sounds like this is the miscommunication. WHAT RP HEARD: Looks don't matter at all to women. Zero. WHAT WOMEN(BP) MEANT: It's not a deal breaker if you don't clean up like Brad Pitt. Women aren't as dependent on appearance as men. But it never occurred to us that you'd take this to mean zero pride in your appearance. Just like good hygiene, look like you take care of yourself, hairstyle, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:24 PM
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What do you propose we do to lower the single mothers in society? What little I've read on single mothers who chose it indicates she didn't see a better choice in life. per this book link. She didn't have marriage or career plans which required holding back on motherhood. https://www[dot]amazon[dot]com/Unsung-Heroines-Single-Mothers-American/dp/0520247728 The other single mothers I know had their husband quit working during the economic downturn, so it seems like he bailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:15 PM
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I'd agree. I stopped flirting when I figured this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:56 PM
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So I contend that what TRP describes is generally true for most of the women in the SMP that most men encounter, and the women of PPD are outliers by simple self-selection bias. So you can throw out data which doesn't match the theory? Slippery slope. Can you describe the demographics of "most of the women"? I assume you mean single women you want to date? Career? Did any go to college? I disagree with AF because when I was in college I noticed that a significant number of high SMV women found t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:49 PM
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I think some women are that mercenary, but much fewer than RP thinks. But more than BP thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:27 AM
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I figured, but was joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:22 AM
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Congrats about having such good chemistry with your partner. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:21 AM
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I wish I didn't have to pay to give you a point. Thanks! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:15 AM
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follow what society would have them do. Another word for that is superego. I've noticed that women tend to themselves in "superego", whereas for men it's more likely their "ego". Generalization, but for ages women's assigned role has been less individual than men's, and pressured for the greatest good. Women don't have morality. They don't know what morality is, and quite frankly nor do they care. Even the ones that happen to be interested in philosophy and morality and have studied still reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:14 AM
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What morality do you follow? Golden rule? Do onto others. Not formal, like Google's old slogan, "Don't be evil", without getting too hung up on any code of ethics. But meditation cultivates an attitude of compassion too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:56 AM
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Weird that a nurse wouldn't marry. Sucks that they couldn't get past such fears. That nurse was born in Nazi Germany, which affected her outlook on life, and was part of why she didn't want marriage or children. By spiritual practice, they do spiritual rituals and things on their own? Meditation tradition, but not too formal about. As for non-profit, well part of a community/family like "Habitat for Humanity" or a certain church.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:52 AM
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But even so, that does not mean that they aren't hooking up. In fact, hooking up is becoming more commonplace nowadays than at any other point in history (even more so than during the hippie days). That's confusing. Tinder says one thing, but then surveys & other studies say that milenials aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:48 AM
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Modest too. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:47 AM
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Sounds like someone doesn't want to express their personal position. Neutral good. Is that what you were asking? I'm not clear. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:46 AM
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Gay Dudes can plow through dick for days. Hmm. Sounds interesting to me. Would you mind researching a field report on that for me? I can't, since I don't have a dick. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:46 PM
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but the difference is that even though a lot of men are burned by "bad" women, they can often never discern that these women they are dating are bad That has got to suck. But RP's solution seems to increase hunger, and make it hopeless. I hope it gets calibrated. A lot of women who tend to say there aren't any good men out there, are often dating men who present with the "bad boy" stereotype. My personal women friends are of the type who gave up dating long ago. So I'd say your diagnosis is over…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:44 PM
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They're white knight cucks. Is there a porn vid of this? Might be interesting to see. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:39 PM
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But that isn't science. Indeed. I was thinking of Darwin's big quest was to tear down the "science" of his time which justified slavery. It's hard to understand pre-Darwin mindsets. But it took Nazi Germany before post-Darwin Eugenics movements were discredited. Whatever honest-to-goodness findings it uncovers about men and women don't dishonor it - science is about truth, not comfortable lies. Agreed. But it's also agreed that it's impossible to separate Nature from Nuture. Further, Nuture favo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:39 PM
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Yeah, cause women are fickle and Machiavellian. Pot calling kettle black, from self confessed Neutral Evil. I could give you my morality, but generally I agree with Joseph Ledoux that observers can tell you more about a person than the person's own assessment. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:34 PM
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What is your morality or good/evil? I tell you mine, that I was appalled at my Ex's friend, and that I would have been at fault if his friend's succeeded. I think slanted "science" is bad, particularly when it deepens depression, or causes worse mental/emotional illness. I'm faithful to my husband, but am used to a world where my word is worth less than a man's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:54 PM
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Thanks for the reply. But isn't oneitis different from wanting to settle down?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:44 PM
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Thanks a ton for reply. I enjoy your other posts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:43 PM
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RPers value sex, but what they really want is a woman who is the quintessential unicorn. Hey!! Silver lining!! Men & women aren't so different after all. Men say "No good women", just like women say, "No good men". Also, each side think that the other is entitled and doesn't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:42 PM
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I love your reference. Dune rocked. Not sure of your point either. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:31 PM
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Ah, I was trying to say that flirting is basically a lot of suggestive talk but not actually talking about the issue: You do know that women enjoy the art of flirting without having sex as a goal? Particularly married women.. Although the married sex might be more exciting later because of flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:25 PM
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places like DrNerdLove and GoodMenProject Aren't both these site run by men? They are hardly feminist conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:18 PM
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If no women have morality, how can they be good? They're amoral, and selfishly seek to gain power however possible as desired, which is evil in its own right. This reminds me of the "science" of racism. Slavery is justified because this race is deficient in a human quality like morality. Now "science" is dishonored by using it on an entire gender, nevermind conflicting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:13 PM
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All women are evil(no woman has morality, they follow does it feel good or not). Ah! Now you just lost credibility. Overgeneralized. Maybe it works if you say, "my mother was evil". Or, "All hot women are evil(18-23), and other women don't exist for me." But still over-reaching. Hopefully neither of us is taking these generalizations too seriously. All women are hoes. Except for amnesia whenever women don't act like that. I never cheated on him, and he believes it had to have been branch swingin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:55 PM
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This guy's book has a chapter on that, how fame is considered "value" these days, even if warped, for some people. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/841985-we-want-recognition-not-accomplishment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:49 PM
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Because they're hot, probably. This is why men never understand women. It's always about "Hot" tunnelvision. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:42 PM
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I really like you right now. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:39 PM
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For men the temptation is always there, and some men are pretty shitty towards their other male friends and will hit on their woman. It's the opposite of "attractive to me". Their behavior was frightening, as nutty as my dad in his bad moods. No thanks, bye. What about "bros before hoes"? If she falls for his BS, then she's a "ho" and doesn't deserve respect? I'm sure my Ex is still convinced that it was my badness that caused him to be alone. I'm not saying men are evil. But some of the worst m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:34 PM
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A man's friends are his biggest threat towards his woman. I would be extremely grateful to understand that better. I'm starting to remember how paranoid that situation made me, decades ago. Reading PPD seems to be part of my midlife journey. Plus, thanks, you helped me understand hypergamy better. Why did you wait till 19? HUGE girl nerd. Plus my parents marriage was bad, and I never wanted to be my mother. Hmm, more memories. I think my dad threatened to kill the first guy who asked me out, awk…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:52 PM
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congrats! keep rewarding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:44 PM
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Female BMI: 28.7 Where? All over. My hour glass figure got even more extreme with weight. Yes my waist is wider, but my boobs & butt grew even more, which is hard to hide with clothing. Embarrassing almost. Weight gain easy after age 45. I'd like to reduce more. Sticking to Fitness Pal calorie counting works, but if I exercise too, I get too hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:34 PM
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I hear you. I'm a feminist-leaning woman who took my husband's name, because my maiden name was a bear to spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:23 PM
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The anonymity of the internet provides you with an easy 'out' in just concluding that all these whiny men are just the dregs of the male sex who can't get any; but in reality this is an assumption you've made because you don't like the conclusions. What conclusion? Are you implying Western civilization is ready to collapse because 60% of men can't get laid?? And this is because 80% of women are "wearing out" 20% of men with sex? Odd as it may seem, I'm too new to Reddit to be out to ridicule. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:19 PM
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What do you think hypergamy is as defined by rp? RP hypergamy sounds like AF/BB. "Women attracted to dominant alpha, but need beta comfort too. More evidence why she is irrational & slave to her feelz." I do think women need to own their shit. But having been engaged to almost pathological jealousy for years, I know what it's like to be on the defensive for every smile, how it killed his logic, and how suffocating it was. Plus, one of his friends deliberately hit on me despite knowing this about…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:06 PM
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Do gay men get oneitis?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:50 PM
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Isn't revenge porn worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:37 PM
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Man keeps "gaming" her throughout the night, and eventually she relents and has sex with him. I've been one of those women who says "yes" just so he'll shut up about it. It's not particularly enjoyable sex, but I'll never bring it up because not hearing about it anymore was the point. Usually that kind of "relationship" doesn't last. I'm not saying this covers everyone's experience here. But it's part of why men/women have so much trouble talking about sex. "Watch what she does". She had sex!! T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:22 PM
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TRP and your logic remind me of my first boyfriend. He was always right. He couldn't see how he treated me with contempt, anymore than Scrooge could understand that "Ba Humbug" wasn't a good reply to "Merry Xmas". I eventually left that boyfriend. I didn't date until months after I left him. But he kept seeing it as that I left him for another. That's the only thing that made sense to him, and if it didn't make sense to him, I must be irrational or lying. That's how he lost the hottest girl he e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:58 PM
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try understanding how men love and how Oneitis develops and why. That's why I'm here. I'm trying, but not easy to read minds. I still think Hypergamy is a bad theory for the sets of behaviors it's meant to describe. Also, I'm saying that real love doesn't think all is lost if someone dies, what a horrible, pathogenic belief for one-itis men to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:42 PM
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Do you think that at the limit our current trajectory is headed back towards this natural equilibrium? It doesn't seem to be a long term equilibrium. Most of the differential seems to be due to a slice of time during the Neolithic where the ratio was 17f:1m during the conversion to agriculture. Yes, still a lot of questions. http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/03/neolithic-culture-may-have-kept-most-men-from-mating/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:42 AM
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The 20% you don't agree with is what I don't agree with. So what's the 80%? Be confident, look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:53 AM
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Gay men have a thing for straight guys, or so says that book "A billion wicked thoughts". I hope you find the relationships or sex you want, I do wish for happy endings for everyone. My objection to the TRP are tactics/beliefs which sound like emotional abuse aspect of DV.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:17 AM
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Trust me on this: there are a lot of lonely, miserable married people. It’s so much better to be single than committed to someone who doesn’t match you. I like this article quote, which probably makes me contrarian on dating related sub-reddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:49 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:35 AM
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Goodluck being fulfilled with music and no kids or career Actually, my meditation group is full of women like that. Well, a couple are widows. But 3 never married: lawyer, nurse, engineer. They have their spiritual practice, and usually some non-profit cause, family, and wonderful girlfriends. Some women realize it early, they're particularly turned off, maybe sexual assault, child abuse, or a domineering father just makes them never wanting to risk falling under that spell like their poor mothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:34 AM
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he does sound like he satisfies your hypergamy Ugh!! Fuck you. She adores him, calling it "satisfies your hypergamy" is misrepresenting it. What your describing about oneitis doesn't sound like love at all, but it's opposite fear. How is it heart-open, abundant love if it feels like a cage? Yes that particular love with her could "die", but you wouldn't lose the ability to love again. OK, switching it to myself. Yes my husband is unique, special, wonderous. Yes I'll never love anyone the way I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:19 AM
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I found that I appreciate love more now that I've given up on "the one". ITA. This is why it's strange hearing /u/SetConsumes say that women hate hearing men don't believe in "the one". One-itis and scarcity marriages sound terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:10 AM
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It's just that if the woman never tells the man she doesn't like it you can't really blame the man. Or she told him, and he dismissed it because it didn't make sense to him. It can be hard for people to see when they treat another with disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:13 PM
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Money and wealth are still part of the exchange, but now instead of being a major factor they are just seen as extras. Do men want to be wanted for themselves or for money? It sounds like plenty of people are getting laid enough. "For themselves" isn't just looks either, personality matters a lot. Just like they said in "Pulp Fiction". :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:04 PM
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As someone who has successfully used tinder for hookups I can tell you that it's not really a good option if an option at all for the vast majority of men - it's really serving women's interests. Tinder serves women's interests?? "Dating Apocolyspe"? I hear it's mostly bad sex. What advantage do women get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:00 PM
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I find it funny that women tolerate so much rapish (or actual sexual assault/rape) behavior from men like Trump Tolerating doesn't mean acceptable. If they scream or what not, ugliness may start, and it'll stick to & hurt her more than Trump, who doesn't seem like the listening type.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:35 PM
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(his ability to earn money because if he didn't have the ability to earn the money, the money wouldn't be there) as marital property, then the wife's body should be considered marital property. Is a woman's body supposed to be cut in half? Money can be divided. A person's body can't. Am I missing something here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:10 PM
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Why the hell would it be anyone else's fault that she's choosing to stay with someone she doesn't want to be around. Isn't that what you're complaining about? That women don't want men around. It must be hard to figure out why women don't want men more if the problem is always the woman. Men have absolutely no control over doing things women don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:28 PM
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But men are not allowed to equally shit all over women. Bullcrap!! The manosphere "loudly and proudly" says insulting things about women fatties, "hippo feminists", "the crazy", and feminazis? If women said such things about incels on social media, they'd get blasted too. So your comparison sucks, is bad logic and deluded comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:46 PM
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Do you have any proof of that? Go to the forum on xnxx. Also, have you tried m4m on Craigslist? Grindr?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:32 PM
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It would be non-consensual though, since incels are attracted to women. To me as a woman, this is part of the attitude that makes me annoyed about sex. Gendered "Women's work". No dude would do it. But they're shocked that women aren't Disney-happy taking care of more invisible work for free. Women are supposed to be the inexhaustible source of most love & low value but absolutely necessary work which enables humankind to continue. She owes it, or is a bad woman or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:22 PM
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Non-redpill women don't save sex because they think they're special, they do because they think sex is special Thank you. applauds Maybe a handjob for friend in need, but not the more intimate kind. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:11 PM
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Great post. Really clarified frame in a new way for me.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 04:44 AM
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Maybe because women do the work of raising their own kids? Also, most societies had slave masters or arranged marriage rather than female choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:11 AM
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Yep. Quickly said nutshell which seems like a powerful life turning point.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/10/16 12:36 AM
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What kind of shared hobbies do you have with your friends? I wish you had a wingman or someone who could watch your interactions with women & give you feedback. You're kind of a mystery. Interesting sharing, thx!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:22 PM
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I know Im not clingy or needy. That makes sense. But if you're too much of an island, then women can't make that arousing emotional connection. I know another guy who was super confident, and unhappy his last LTR left him for another guy whom she thought she could help more than him. He couldn't wrap his head around that. She told him he was so self sufficient, she couldn't understand why he needed her, which I suppose makes no sense to many guys. To try to explain.... Men are more attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:22 PM
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What is your interpretation of AWALT? I don't see LA Club party girls among women getting good 4 year degrees, graduate work, etc... Many career women looking for men don't hang around in bars, more likely at exercise classes, or meet up groups. Even "Stacey" grows up, often before age 25. The women I know who actually held good jobs chose their life actions, and it doesn't just happen (after 25). If more young men (betas) had nice girlfriends early on, instead of being perpetually thirsty, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:05 PM
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Wish I had taken more pics though. I had a good V and my biceps looked awesome. God damn. Sounds nice. I wish I could see the pic. You actually sound like a good guy. You shouldn't assume women are judging you never interacted with them. It sounds like you got a "self fulfilling fear" going. I've got 2 non-dating examples. Aspiring Hollywood writers/actors/etc want to prove themselves by achieving success, but if this gives them a "desperate" vibe, they'll be rejected out of hand. Also, I knew s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:01 AM
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I think people will get a truer account from the children than angry Ex husbands. Also, reputable experts say that common views of the family court system are warped. http://lundybancroft.blogspot.com/2009/05/disorder-in-courts-mothers-and-their.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:30 AM
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Women on the other love sleeping with bad-boy abusive Chads and they usually also like dating them. NAWALT. Gods, Chad is so high school. Most women I know in suburbia & a long work history see the "bad boy" thing as completely immature. Any woman who doesn't grow out of it after college is sad. This is all a gross over-generalization though, much like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:23 PM
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How exactly are women damaged by "men's cruelty"? One of my grandfather's left his ~40 yr old wife for a woman half his age. He left behind 6 children under age 18. Not only did he not support is Ex family, he had their aunts, uncles stop interacting with them because an Ex ruined his image. My grandmother had a decent job to support the kids, but she was stretched & died young. I never met either of those grandparent, I only heard from his children who felt like their father threw them under th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:37 PM
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Women love casual sex. Some women enjoy it, and those are who men look at most. Many don't however.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:13 PM
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It's hard to live with someone whose default assumption is "women are irrational". :) "Female hypergamy" fears are just as irrational & exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:12 PM
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What mannerisms? How do you tell the difference between someone using you, and someone just kinky and sex positive? I'd love to hear an answer to this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:01 PM
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When I was a younger woman, I would have been surprised as hell to hear that "men want female approval". I certainly hungered for male approval, but knew that "hungry for sex" wasn't approval. But it's good to hear that the genders are maybe not so different. There's an image in a lot of women's heads that men just don't give a damn about anything except sex, and they're lying if they say otherwise. The players are almost a relief for seeming somewhat honest at least. Women can read each other m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:48 PM
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"Madonna/Whore" dichotomy in male mating desires Some TRP Evo Psych theories about male desire sound like a Madonna/Whore complex translated into Evo language. Men are promiscuous (want whores), but only want their children raised by a inexperienced woman(Madonna). Some tribal cultures don't reflect this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 10:55 PM
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You mean he can divorce her if she breaks the rules. Stop thinking women are superior to men. Of course. When did HE lose his rights? He's free to next her. His wife acted deplorably. I'm sure social services would find a place for the kids, so he could be free. But he seems bigger than than that & has a better solution. What's screwed up is you thinking that this is normal behavior, or that AWALT. Watch "Divorce Court" for even better follies of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 10:21 PM
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When my SO describes a guy as nice and can't think of another way to describe him other than as a Nice Guy, it's because there's nothing else to identify him by. It's an inherently shameful label. I can understand why someone hearing "Nice Guy" about themselves would cringe. But that's social over-sensitivity. "Nice" is something positive to say when there isn't much to go on. It's actually a neutral term that can be turned around at any time (in most situations, maybe not this sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:17 PM
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You don't even know how much a compliment or little kindness means to a (below-)average man. It can make their day, week or month even. Hell, it's exactly why so many men become infatuated with women seemingly out of the blue. This was why I had to stop saying encouraging things to guys who looked like they were going thru a rough time. I'd remind them of their good points, like a coworker having a bad day. Then Surprise! Telling them no romantic interest was worst. I don't hate the Nice Guys, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:02 PM
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Thanks for the answer. But everything you say is quite a stretch without research cred.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:42 AM
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OMG for real?? I had no idea. Insanity. Not quoting it since I still need kittens & rainbows to recover. The premise of the SGM book sounds cool, "Be so good at sex that women are addicted." Good sex tips. But horrifying how he justified certain controlling techniques seemed unaware that those women were left in an off-balance, suggestible state. Plus, the premise is obviously a lie if you have to lie to get women into that state, which means they aren't really staying for the good sex. This lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:16 AM
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my response was basically that dick for pussy is a fair exchange, Actually, I agree with you on that. But the argument is ruined if he uses false pretenses, lies, or mind control(SGM+NLP). so she tolerates being non-exclusive or some other form of lower emotional investment. Tolerates non-exclusive? Sounds like you struggle with equal dick/pussy too. Isn't it possible to have emotional investment without exclusivity? For instance, how BDSM will have one relationship for vanilla, and one for D/S.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 01:07 AM
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You would be correct if the men were promising to give commitment and lead women on. RP is explicit about never talking about commitment with plates. Wait - doesn't RP recommending "Sex God Method(SGM)" also?? That's BS and contradiction, since the SGM books specifically states to encourage a girl's hope for exclusivity until she is "converted". SGM author also lists signs of a girl's conversion which actually sound like she's desperate for a real relationship. Plus SGM recommends language & tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:41 AM
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So do you accept that male and female sexual strategy is at odds with each other? Can you explain what you mean by "male sexual strategy"?? Plate spinning is supposed to be ideal, but it's also constant work, often empty, plates flake without a look back, and the biggest excitement is landing a high-drama BPD who is great in the sack. In contrast, LTRs give a man more sex with less stress. I'm really confused that this has something to do with Evo Psych, when the point seems to be to never have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:17 AM
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That message isn't directed to you, or to women. It's directed to men. Does it really help men with relationship troubles to tell them women are inferior? That's a no-brainer deal-breaker for a lot of women, a man who doesn't know when he's being insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:04 PM
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the same as they would be doing had they been talking to their fathers, uncles, grandfathers, older brothers, friends and other men. The problem is that women drove those men out of their sons' lives, leaving TRP/MRP the only place men can find what they need to make this shit work. More clarity. I appreciate it - thanks! So it didn't take two to tango? Why dad left? No older brothers, grandpas, uncles either? Rough. Although I've seen sons regret their mother staying with an abuser too. Not cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:48 PM
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Another thing is that during these "monogamous" "relationships", she is always on the lookout for something else, something bigger/better. Always looking out for the bigger better deal. She is looking for something "wrong" with him. If she finds it, she dumps him in a split second. Ah!! Now I'm understanding better why trp gets so annoyed with CC. Because young, immature women are too picky? I don't agree. The tales I've heard from college are that many women get frustrated finding out that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:44 PM
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Sensible point. Another thing to avoid is the guy who is hoping he is not gay. Bi guys can be super secure & HSD, which is sexy. But not those who are really just not ready to come out of the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:31 PM
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Agreed about the gender flip. I look forward to reading more of your stories. Sounds like an interesting life. Your in a LTR & do sex work too? Just hearing that helps free me from my Catholic upbringing. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:17 PM
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The guy they hated in high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:15 PM
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This is a funny philosophy tho! I like it ''make an ugly man your wife'' lol. Great song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9ZZgDqzAg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:12 PM
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A woman married to a beta she's not attracted to will either run his life (and make herself as happy as she can) or divorce him, take half the stuff, and be the woman the asshole alpha cheats with. Do you have stats on this? In my neighborhood, I see a lot of wealthy men on their second wives, and that was their choice. Arrogance kills a guy's hotness too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:07 PM
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A male that is very loyal and committed only to you. Guy A A guy that is loyal and committed, but not as much. Also he wants an open relationship, he wants mistresses on the side. Guy B You never said if the "open marriage" would go both ways. To answer your question, when I was younger, definitely Guy A. Now that I'm older, well off financially, with a sick husband, open marriages make a lot more sense. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:04 PM
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There are more expensive wake up calls. It sounds like you got invaluable experience with relatively low drama & investment. There is no substitute for experience. No easy way out. Everyone falls off of a bicycle occasionally while learning. I'm not MGTOW, and won't be here much. I just had to point out the non-harsh, positive side of this experience.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 06:29 PM
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See from the conclusions of that research you would be forgiven for saying that women are not sexual nor do not like sex. They don't like being sex objects. But then we all know that's bullshit. Why does it have to be all one way or the other? If she's not sexual in a way a man can understand, then she's either lying or not sexual at all. One other more hidden conclusion from Shaunti Feldhahn's work is that men don't believe women aren't triggered visually like a man. Even her husband needed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:30 PM
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Just because we think about fucking girls we see in the street because of what they are wearing, doesn't mean we actually would do so push gave to shove. Ha, glad to hear the real, so puzzling truth. Was the girl who approached you for ONS hot? Did her "keeping it impersonal" weird you out? Some women can experiment with strange sex as long is it's with a guy they have no investment in. This reduces risk it'll hurt, if she doesn't care about his opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:19 PM
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Deep down I knew the long distance thing wouldn't work, so I can't be upset about it. I bet money this is why she had to cut it off. She knew long distance wasn't going to work either. So why torture her heart with more amazing times only make the inevitable good bye harder? Rip the band aid off fast. She might have been afraid you'd talk her out of it.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 04:56 PM
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This is what I've seen work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:32 AM
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More NiceGuy hate. I get it -- you all hate NiceGuys. Honestly, I'd like to help. Lots of people get mis-trained for life. More importantly, I've been reading on the internet about "Nice Guys" since my husband said something about relating to them. Is there a way to help Nice Guys which doesn't require "obligation sex"? Everyone agrees that that would suck. When I feel unwanted, I do something to feel useful or valuable. Is there a way for a Nice Guy to feel good about himself without focusing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:25 AM
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RMV = Results May Vary??? I guess I got that wrong. Was it supposed to mean "Real Market Value"?? Christ, there are tons of acronyms to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:52 AM
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"Just be nice" and "Just be yourself" advice will not help these guys, and in fact it hurts them. Honestly, I'm glad someone helps them, even if I think TRP has some major misses which leave them even more isolated. There are a lot of tech men in my extended family, plus I share some of these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:28 AM
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RMV then I like smart ass, but that one didn't quite gel. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:20 AM
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A lot of girls do dress up because they liked to be admired. And they liked to be desired but they never admit that. Like that poster. So guys rightly call bullshit. That's cool. Everyone wants to be desired by the opposite sex. But not every type of desire is welcome. Honestly, I don't think women get male desire. How are we supposed to know what it's like to have 10x more testosterone than we ever felt in our life? Christian business writer Shaunti Feldhahn was so shocked to hear how Christian…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:04 AM
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I thought I read "sluts are lower SMV" in TRP reddit. :) But it's true that double standard demotivates at least some women from pursuing more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 08:08 PM
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Why can't you admit dressing up because you like being desired by men and envied by women I can speak for my experience. I've dressed up for parties or Sci Fi convention costumes. I feel great about how I look. My girl friends and I talk about how I pulled the outfit together, and it feels like a work of art. I enjoy catching people's eye, just like any costumer. But then, sometimes, when it's apparent that "men are desiring", I feel very uncomfortable. I didn't mean for some guy to start lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:57 PM
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Commitment can be scary for women too. Maybe there was domestic abuse in her extended family? A handful of my women friends never married because of that. Or sometimes a rape victim gives up on any picket fence ideas. But women are human, and still want someone they can trust enough to enjoy sex with. Also, some college age women feel too young to commit. So relationship experience is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:41 PM
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Makes me wonder what's wrong with those girls if they are that horny and won't have sex. Maybe because it lowers her SMV? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:17 PM
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Most women like working for the money and independence, not working for some higher purpose. I disagree. A lot of non-profits are staffed by women who willingly accepted less money to work for something that mattered to her. You think teaching isn't something women do because preparing children for life isn't a calling? But yes, money & independence are important for all human beings. What you're describing sounds like how each gender doesn't see the other's values. I'd like to see less of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:07 PM
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I didn't mean for it to sound like advice. You were sharing your world view about men, women, and children, like I had earlier. I was sharing my position that I'm fine with lots of men/women who just want sex and no kids. It's just history's pendulum swinging, and this generation is hardly Western civilization's worst crisis. :) And with feminism here there are SO many foolish young women around more than willing to hop into my lap and nobody dares to try to stop them. The misogynist assholes. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:50 PM
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I will also say that I have seen many many women hamster and say that they are doing what is best for their child when what they are clearly doing is doing what is best for themselves. I'm sure some women are like that. I'm sure that everyone lies to themselves sometimes & takes awhile to realize it. Also, I'm sure that many men don't see their own blindness, particularly why she left. As far as a girl's vagina tingles confusing her into having children with the wrong man I agree that this is ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:18 AM
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I thought you'd call me a stupid female who got one upped. Also, it was enlightening to hear your viewpoint that sex was an expression of superiority, rather than "Argh!! He's breaking my heart & nothing is breaking this sad mood. Maybe sex can be resilient & cheerful & let him know I'm for him." :P
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:58 AM
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Cold blooded in what way? Simply brutally true? Anyone who makes a spouse into a slave is cold blooded. But if it's happening to men, well it's hard to see, especially since it's so damn quiet. Pussy can't be that powerful. Loneliness maybe. But living with lonely men is more difficult than you imagine. "A smart woman can work little to none in her life" - This sounds like neglecting your husband & children. Family relationships are work, even if it's fulfilling work, all the more because it's u…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 12:21 AM
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A smart woman can work little to none in her life, and wield much power at the same time. That seems really cold blooded. Good lord. I'm not sure what you mean by power either, not CEO or money power. Or do you mean power to make people feel happy or valued? Jeez, I'm glad I'm not a bartender around here. You guys would break my heart. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:20 PM
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once they've realized they should begin vetting new males, don't actually compare them to their current potential suitors but rather they compare them to the suitors they had available back at the beginning of their relationship. Can you explain why you think she is comparing to beginning of relationship vs current? Men create this SMV system for themselves based on money, looks, & things they can quantify. But intangibles weigh heavier for me & other women. Guys take to a rating system so insti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:11 PM
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Thanks for sharing all that. I want to understand if possible. It's not like women don't care. We got to be careful of not ending up paying thru the nose on a misunderstanding. That fiancee relationship broke my heart too. He was my first. I adored him during the early years, good guy & fun. But as time went by, he was driving me crazy, like he was my father & not my husband-to-be. He drove away my female friends too. He became critical ALL the time. Neither of us could hear the other. Maybe I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:40 PM
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Sounds like you had good intentions though xD that was nice of you to try to help him. E for effort. You just defied my expectations about RP. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:15 PM
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Women confused about their own power. Sad in a way, beneficial to men in others. Beneficial to men how? These are women who shied away from dating much. Men not involved really. My BFFs have a good BMI too, so not that fat/unattractive stereotype. If your parents had a rough relationship, it's harder to believe in the romance fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:11 PM
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Having children benefits the woman greatly. It's something nearly all women want in their life and something most women feel empty without fulfilling especially as they get older. Ha!! Actually any sadness about no children fades. I was sad for a couple of years, and then I found some other way to contribute to the world. The hardest part was disappointing my parents/family. This is what many women are finding; a job is 10x easier than motherhood. Children are 24x7. Kids are the leading cause of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:46 PM
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TBP's assertion that TRP only works on insecure women is patently false. It most works on confident women who know what they want and get it. TRP works on women who want to fuck. End of story. The "insecure" part is about whether TRP convinces women who weren't really interested in fucking, but were looking for validation, or to recover self esteem. Manipulative tactics sound like they work best with inexperienced or insecure women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:00 PM
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I will tell you that TRP in my anecdotal experience works on feminists, shy girls, introverts, extroverts, sluts, virgins, insecure, secure, etc. Then give us a definition of what acting like a TeRP means to you Are you asking me to type out the trp aspect of my game, explain how it works, and why it works? No, we're asking you to say something that we don't have to dismiss as BS. Surely you have a supporting antecedote? Otherwise, ya got nothing. Just more trp bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:52 PM
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This needs to be yelled from the mountains Sing it brothers & sisters!! I used to be an insecure woman. Sex made me MORE insecure, not less. If I'm feeling bad, the last thing I need is possibly crappy sex with someone I barely know. Sex seems to help male self esteem in a way which doesn't happen for women. Dick isn't a victory. There's no sense of accomplishment. Yes, dick is wonderful, but for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:35 PM
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Maybe we have no interest in being solid men? Honey, be what you want. This is an age where many are trying to find what works, because the old rules don't work anymore. Who wants to be a ball & chain? What a drag! Even worse to have a baby with a man who only sees it as a drag. Ugh!! Everyone who just wants sex should just fuck, and forget family. Get out of the way of the solid men & women who feel a calling toward parenthood. Birds of a feather flock together. The thugs and the assholes and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:00 PM
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I did not cheat. I'm repeating what a study said. Honestly, it seems like some men are oversensitive about cheating. My first bf & fiancee acted like I had cheated on him because I slept with some one MONTHS after our engagement ended. How is it cheating when we called quits?? He was a jealous type, and this just proved that I was somehow having unfaithful thoughts all thru our LTR. Me getting grilled by him about every male friendship was part of what drove us apart. I'm in a male-dominate prof…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:45 PM
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Funny! :) (1) I did not do "pity sex" during a relationship. I was a free agent then. (2) Pity sex sucks. He seemed disappointed too. It was probably a bad time, because it was right after my LTR break up. At another time, for another reason, my friend & I together might have been good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:41 PM
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Women lie about cheating, or fall on habits of falsely lowering n count. "I just gave a blowjob to an old friend, its not like I was having an affair." Sounds like you had some crummy partners if she actually did that while you both agreed to be monogamous. I will admit to one area where I found myself lowering my n count: pity sex. Pity dates happen. Even that book "The Game" has Courtney saying she'd give a woman's brother a "pity fuck". Anyway, for me, I hate that I have to count the pity sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:51 PM
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This way she can have one guys commitment while vetting new guys the entire time. This is often a male misread. Her primary interest is vetting her current relationship. Is her bond with him strong & mature enough for children? No? They can't talk about some subjects? Weak boundaries? Too much irritation? Time to start looking again. Once, it took awhile for my mind to wake up to how my heart already made the "not working, look again" decision. But I was very young then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:43 PM
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Yep, sex is worthless to women Argh!! Actually, sex is an irreplaceable part of the emotional feast of a satisfying encounter or relationship. Sex unlocks everyones emotions and ups the intensity. You know how guys savor a visual of a woman? How it lingers in his memory? How he imagines her nudity even if hasn't seen it? Well women do that with certain masculine emotions. As a woman, I savor the scent of certain masculine emotions. They linger on my mind. I imagine what his emotional nudity is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:30 PM
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If they could bang someone more attractive than their partner and knew they'd get away with it, I think most women would. More so even than men The most common reason women cheat is because her bad relationship was ending anyway. "More attractive" sounds like a male reason, & more opportunistic. http://www.womansday.com/relationships/dating-marriage/a6060/why-i-cheated-on-my-husband-124536/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:09 AM
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Yeah, I call bullshit on the claim that women risk a lot with sex. The risk of unwanted pregnancy is effectively zero. Not fear of pregnancy. Fear that he's a psycho, mean, or selfish. Or that he's saying shitty stuff about her to friends. I guess it's hard to understand if you don't believe in rape or abuse. Or how men present a different face to women in private which they'd never share publically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:08 AM
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The kind of "attracted" matters very much to men. This sounds like men are only interested in the kind of sex party girls offer. :) Us women who have to build up to erotic adoration are take too long I guess. Kidding. I think I know what you mean. But I still think that it's an isolating lie for TRP to think that all women are secretly having better sex with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:56 AM
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Be careful of assuming all women are after commitment. Commitment sounds like a ball & chain to women too. A lot of women are skittish about commitment & kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:42 AM
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That's a limiting over-generalization. Not every women is immature, or a party girl for whom the Mystery Method works. I know a lot of women who have worked hard on their careers who appreciate solid men. I hate calling men like my father "betas". It sounds high school plus disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:32 AM
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What does it mean when a woman(you), says that she needs to get to know a guy first before she wants to have sex? Like what changes in feelings or desires do you feel if you do this? >Specifically, does getting to know a guy make you more horny for him? Secondly, is the decision to put off sex because you find a guy interesting conscious or unconscious? Like do you actually feel like having sex initially, or is the desire not there at all? As a woman, I can only speak for myself. I don't feel an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:24 AM
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Its not that men must be dominant. Strong men, alphas, are dominant. All kinds of strength are sexy, in men & women alike. Agreed. If "dominant" paradigm is how it's achieved, so be it. I'd like to think of it as an interim step. I've got to admit it's funny as hell to see men too confuse "dominant" with "domineering". It takes some experience to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:53 PM
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"INTJ death stare" LOL. I like that phrase. I'm more than thinking than feeling for a lot of women, so it's something I have to be aware of too. Also, like a lot of women, I have my own way of categorizing people "coworker/call center", assessing competence, showing polite amount of feeling, etc... I've seen men not just assess each other on work performance, but also knowledge of other subjects. A guy who can sound convincing rises to leadership. Unfortunately, I've got a long time habit of not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:07 PM
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accepting the wrong offer for a three way, in good faith, can turn ugly, quickly. Not going to lie. That sounds like a juicy fun story I'd like to hear, while eating popcorn. :) Also, it was enlightening for me to know that guys can also have trouble with love & sexual-intimacy boundaries too. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:09 PM
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I prefer to be left alone to get my work done in peace, but realized that to start making better money, I had to learn to deal with "people", and I wanted the cash enough to put in the work required. Makes sense for me. I'm not a people person, and prefer working with data (career inventory choice: which do you prefer? data, people, or things). I'm introverted with a need for quiet too. I moved into IT myself, since more career choice in this economy. Even my lesser social skills proved useful t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:00 PM
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Supporting what you said about OP not having experience in kink. I gave an example how not all women are into men dominating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:43 PM
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I don't know if that will lead to more women in STEM or not though, because honestly I think that in a general sense, women aren't interested enough to make it a life-long career. I'm an older woman with a BS in Chemical Engineering. I loved the coursework, but didn't like the predominantly male work culture, and I think it's a big reason why STEM doesn't sell for girls. One of the reasons I went into ChE though was that it attracted more female class mates. Male classmates seemed one-dimensiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:15 PM
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It works AGAINST him if he believes sex with him will damage her, and she that couldn't want to have cut & run sex too. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/10/neil-strauss-the-game-book-truth “I think that a lot of guys who read The Game, they think that they’re fooling or tricking women. But most women are smart enough to know exactly what you’re doing. They just might like you enough to go along with it. I think one of the misconceptions is that someone else can be tricked into d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:04 PM
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Why do you think is her "actual reason"? I know you can only guess, and no one can be certain. But I'm curious what other motive could she have beyond finding men sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:55 PM
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That sounds like women are manipulative by nature, that it's something children have to grow out of, and men can be plenty manipulative too. But I grant that it can take awhile for a young woman to learn how NOT to be unintentionally manipulative with male attention she doesn't truly understand, especially if she's trying to be polite & nice. Also, bad apples and mental illness exist on every side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:30 PM
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Women are manipulative and are willing to manipulate their partners into getting what they want. This might be why you have trouble meeting "non-manipulative" women, if your default assumption is manipulation and shit tests. Confirmation bias skews what everyone sees. My women friends & I once had a fun convo comparing notes on a time we tried to set up FWB with a male friend, and having it fizzle because our attempts to set up light fun were interpreted as strings or worse. Boundaries aren't st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:19 PM
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Maybe you're working harder, but they're working more efficiently. I'm willing to bet that in most cases, when women spout that nonsense, they're overvaluing their work and undervaluing the work of their peers. Lots of people at lots of offices see that too, more than just gender, "I'm working on what matters, and they aren't. They're wasting time." Organizations wouldn't have phenomena like "shadow it" if management was awake to what the bread & butter work of the organization required. But bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:22 PM
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More men than women and you get men all fighting to settle down with the most attractive women. More women than men and you get unfaithful men and all the women fight over the faithful ones. Just "settle down"? What kind of environment encourages a man to not settle down, be honest, and just look for multiple women to bang? When you say "unfaithful men", why commit at all if he doesn't have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:12 PM
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https://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/my-hero/ Male submission is a masculine thing. You don’t need to be anything but you. And you know that thing you have between your legs that gets hard and demonstrates very visibly (and sometimes wetly) that you are aroused by your degradation. Yeah, that. Oh, baby – you had me at hello. But joysticks aside, male subs are heroes. Everything we are ever told about good wholesome pure beautiful masculinity – everything women are taught to fall in love …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:25 AM
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QUOTE I’m a straight woman. Men and masculinity turn me on. Maleness. Male beauty. Men are so heart stoppingly beautiful. The shape of a young fit man’s body. When his abdomen is concave and hard and the ratio between his shoulders and his hips is almost preternatural. All men are beautiful. High foreheads. Big hands. From the shape of their arms to the fact that the greatest ever skin sensation play tool actually grows out of their fucking faces. Men are made for sex. (And I didn’t even mention…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:51 AM
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QUOTE I am sitting in the library writing this right now and I find it impossible not to look at every man who passes me, every non-descript, crumpled, nothing-in-particular of a man and think that each of them has a cock, has a wonder of flesh-engineering hidden close at his centre. A delicate shadow of a thing at this moment perhaps, but its soft shape is the perfect chameleon circuit for its hidden hot and its hidden hard. Cocks are magical. The transform and they are transformative. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:50 AM
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Are trp more interested in being right or being lusted after by women?? I thought you wanted to research women's lust, not just "be right" about stereotype ideas about "men must be dominant". That blogger is a kinkster, but her male partners are submitting to her lust. Domineering is the wrong word for her, since it's not about her taking advantage, blind to his needs, or bossing him around. Her kinky tests are about viewing his strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:50 AM
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You want a rebuttal to AWALT or AMALT?? How about something sexy & not another suggestive but inconclusive study?? How about "Bitchy Jones Diary"?? A famous blog within Kink about how porn is blind to hot veins of cis-het woman's desires. No one could read item #6 on this post, or her other posts without reading a woman's sincere sexual passion for non-alpha men. I've been up close & personal with female fan fiction erotica communities, and she's not wrong that there is true female hunger for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:23 AM
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I'd like to see convincing evidence of "female hypergamy". Most PUA success seems more easily explained with: manipulation works, and so does confidence & self respect. Mrp is lousy with confirmation bias. "Sperm wars" doesn't prove women actually want to sleep with men other than their husbands, any more than husbands would actually sleep with a porn actress if given a chance. The hypergamy theory is unconvincing. But worse, it's terribly sad for anyone who believes it. From what I can tell ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:00 AM
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1 me, and most of the women i know. it's not that those women don't exist; it's that they aren't all that exists. 2 I have too many friends and colleagues who are fiercely intelligent, independent, competent women with successful careers. PUA and that hypergamy theory falls apart once you meet women outside of bars or clubs. The women I see at work or professional conferences aren't like that at all. Also, no wonder a women's SMV peaks at age 23, those PUA techniques work best on immature women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 08:05 PM
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Dude I went to a concert last night, he's gay. He looks defintely gay. He even wore a t-shirt saying, ''no pussy please, only dicks'' and he had women frome very SMV range even the highest throwing themselves at him offering sex. I'm a woman who has done that, with my group of women friends. It's BECAUSE he's GAY and wouldn't accept that we could let our naughty girl out in safety without the pressure that he'd expect us to "come across". Flirting is a way to have safe, non-threatening fun; we t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:53 PM
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For reference: http://imgur.com/a/SjcgE That's the bottom 20%'s behinds he's crouching behind. Damn that's funny. Bottom 20% in more ways than one. lol. Thing is, for perspective. With those guys however, I can see how their family wouldn't bother pressuring them for their lack of achievement, could be awkward. However, those guy's parents will pressure their sisters, to make the family look good. Female family members must be approachable, and not clueless. Women shoulder a lot of hidden work k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:35 PM
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Ha!! Interesting thread you did there. Although I don't agree with your conclusion that women "turn up their nose" at average looking guys. For me & other women I know, yeah looks are great but how they're used is so much more important. So images are a terrible way for a woman to rate effective attractiveness. I can say "yes attractive face", yet no engagement or interest until I can vibe his personality. wub1234 - Surely you have noticed that there is a lot more to your attraction to a woman t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:24 PM
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I mean, if my husband didn't do sweet romantic things for me, I would be upset. But I don't think I would be more upset if he'd done them for other people in the past. Like, why is that relevant at all? That used to puzzle me too. But now my theory is that men have trouble believing a woman's love is true if her sexual desire isn't true. From books I've read, it seems like men need sex to feel love. Through sex he opened up more to love her, and then made the ultimate sacrifice for love, commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:54 AM
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Isn't the world overpopulated for our resources? I usually hear that from upper middle class white women who are feeling pressure to have babies, but are afraid to do so. Personally, I think that the world could use more US middle class children free of student loan debt. Some cities have a lot of those kind of women, like NYC, San Francisco bay area. The don't want to give up their freedom or risk the horrific financial cost. Plus, motherhood could cost her social status if she loses her profes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:25 AM
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It sounds like what the OP is saying is that thinking PUA advice reduces rejection is wrong. Yes, you'll care less about rejection, and find some strategy. Agency is always better than helplessness. But it's a false delusional promise to believe you can interest any woman. It's no silver bullet to suddenly make you feel super-attractive to women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 04:58 AM
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You underestimate male thirst: God damn!! Lovely article. But this is exactly true for how women find men sexy too. If the man has any kind of spirit at all, there are women who'll find him sexually attractive. We were lying in bed one night after some of the best sex of either of our lives and I asked him what it was that had attracted him to me in the first place. I knew I wasn't the type he always went for, so I was curious. He just looked at me and shrugged and smiled and said "confidence is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:13 AM
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young girls are stupid.< I'd say "young girls are immature". On some level they know that they are too young to be making life commitment decisions. At least, that's how I was when I was 18 and a good man fell hard for me. I fell hard for him too, but he wanted a big commitment way before I was ready. I couldn't live without him, so I ignored the little voice saying it wanted to just enjoy teenaged dating without life commitment. Eventually, we broke up when I couldn't arrange the wedding. We da…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:40 AM
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Agreed. That seems to me like the big disconnect between men and women (in general, not everyone). As a woman, sex without some kind of warmth isn't worth taking my pants off. An embarrassed, cold(loveless) fuck is less than worthless. It's risky, because you'll feel even more unvalidated after exposing yourself intimately and he couldn't care less. But it seems like sex alone is validating for men, even if cold or risky?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:23 AM
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