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I don't disagree at all. Im only trying to give perspective. In evolutionary terms - women aren't incentivized to bear children when the guy can't take care of himself (emotionally in this case). If you can't find your own happiness, why would she think you could provide her any?
/r/seduction27/10/13 01:05 AM
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If you think that being in a relationship will make you happy, then you are selfishly using the person you are with. Do you want a relationship where someone makes you happy because of this imaginary debt you've created, or because you love each other and are together to make each other stronger as opposed to filling emptiness? No one owes you happiness, the world doesn't owe you happiness. Sounds bitter, but the reality is that thinking anyone and everyone owes you happiness is bitter. Life suc…
/r/seduction26/10/13 10:05 PM
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Imagine if I gave you $10 without you asking, and you had to pay me back $10 + $2 in interest. You'd probably just rather I never gave you the money. This is why getting upset at someone who doesn't say thank you, is wrong. You are imposing a debt on them that they never asked for. Hold the door because you're a gentleman, not because it'll make you owed.
/r/seduction15/10/13 06:33 PM
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I started a bowling group once. We just started going bowling on Mondays after work, because it made Mondays have something to look forward to instead of being just another Monday. Anyways we'd invite whoever we talked to, just cause why not, and people started joining. People who joined would bring friends. Their friends would bring friends. We would bowl for an hour or two, and then hit any of the local bars for drinks afterwords. I think it became an outlet for many of the people who came. An…
/r/seduction15/10/13 01:27 AM
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Put more effort into your identity. Seriously, that AFC behavior stems from you building her up in your mind. If you have a strong identity focused on independence, not just on picking up, you will find that they chase you. If she thinks you might be interested, as opposed to you are interested, she'll be texting you asking what you're thinking. You do this by removing your reliance on her for your identity - by relying instead on yourself for identity. If you set your frame to be about you bein…
/r/seduction15/10/13 01:07 AM
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The problem is she knows she can have you, and that's not interesting - the power is all in her hands. What you need to do is raise your value. In her mind, she knows you're interested, so in her head she has to decide whether she's interested or not so she knows if she should back out before you date, get married, and have kids. Ridiculous I know, even though you didn't imply any of it, this is how women think (guys too but they don't find themselves in this situation as much). Instead you don'…
/r/seduction15/10/13 12:49 AM
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I wouldn't say amusement. When I say happiness, I mean the sense of fulfillment where you wake up ready to take on the day. If you can derive that for yourself, you will be immensely more attractive. I also really can't stress identity enough. Not just your game, but your identity. Your identity will effect your attractiveness to everyone. A key indicator women use, is how people around you perceive you. I've dated a lot of girls who saw how strong my connections were with many people in my soci…
/r/seduction15/10/13 12:27 AM
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I just posted this rant in reply to the "Happy Flower" thread I think is relevant. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1oej8y/i_am_tired_of_the_shallowness_of_the_game_i_am_a/ccrrpwi?context=3 The attractiveness of "Bad boy" behavior isn't in the negative aspects. It's in the appearance of self-awareness and a strong sense of identity. Though in "bad boys" it's usually (not always though) an appearance that is used to mask past hurt or insecurities. The behavior you want to use to your ad…
/r/seduction15/10/13 12:03 AM
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One of my favorite sayings: You can't be the man of her dreams if she doesn't feel lucky to be with you. She sure as shit won't feel lucky to be with you if (as the OP put it): If a woman can tell that you're trying to get something from her, whether it be sex or “connection,” she will instinctively pull away because she can tell you're being a fucking parasite. I'll add to that list: Oneitus. Excessive gift giving and doting. Excessive communication, especially those tricks you think are clever…
/r/seduction14/10/13 11:39 PM
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I'm sure you've heard people say they have more luck and find more meaningful relationships when they aren't looking. If focusing on yourself and making yourself a better person is your highest priority, your confidence will radiate and women will come to you. It's night and day, I promise. It usually takes time, but if you are willing to find a better match later as opposed to an acceptable one now, you'll find that it actually makes it easier to be confident and independent. Women are quickly …
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:53 PM
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At this point I'm just waiting. Not sure for what. Its just hard for me to not want that (that ideal perfect girl I make up in my head) since it sounds so perfect on paper. Instead of wanting that ideal perfect girl you make up in your head, why not instead focus on and want (edit: to be) that ideal perfect guy that you could be?
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:54 PM
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If you can keep emotion out and remember this, it'll help a lot: She doesn't owe you anything. On the other hand, and more importantly for you, you don't owe her anything. Women are attracted to guys who aren't dependent and can take care of themselves. If you can set your mindset to your future success and stability, it's a lot easier to meet women. One of their biggest fears is an over attached guy who relies on them. This is why Oneitus is a problem - oneitus is all about reliance. Think abou…
/r/seduction07/10/13 03:30 AM
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Oneitus is also the epitome of objectification. Think about it. You are removing her individuality and identity from the equation. In your mind, the scenarios you are setting up, she has no say. You somehow convince her that you're the man of her dreams, and she sees the light. You rationalize that you'll do anything for her, and be awesome for her, and she'll love it. The common response when she doesn't (because most women don't want to feel manipulated into a relationship), is that she either…
/r/seduction06/10/13 09:02 PM
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The woman in question sees that based on your interactions with your wingwoman, you are a good person to be around, and you're not the kind of person she's been jaded by or told horror stories about.
/r/seduction04/10/13 02:30 AM
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Just like Riding_Crossbow said, don't. Be a memorable fun waiter (for all your patrons), and the women will see you as a good guy, which'll set you up for openers if you pass them on the campus. Maybe they'll drop info on parties, or even leave their number on a naptkin or the bill. Either way, don't worry about it and just focus on being an awesome waiter. If you're worried about numbers you're going to creep someone out and lose business, and have a reputation to overcome - "Don't go to Turtle…
/r/seduction04/10/13 12:26 AM
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Keep in mind, with or without a wingwoman, you are constantly fighting against preconceptions, biases, and past experiences of every woman you talk to. If your relationship with your wingwoman is strong your wingwoman obviously enjoys your company You and your wingwoman have nothing aside from friendship going on (no risk of jealousy) And that this relationship rises above the girl in questions past experiences, biases, and preconceptions She will want to know how good it would be to be more tha…
/r/seduction03/10/13 11:30 PM
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I agree mostly with what he wrote, but there are women, and men, who will use friendship as a commodity. You have to look at the balance of a "friendzone". Scenario A Typical guy who is 'friends' with a girl hoping she eventually realizes that she will realize he is the one for her and make some moves. She may or may not know that he has feelings for her, but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day she has nothing more to gain from him. He'll occasionally buy her drinks or dinner or take her to…
/r/seduction03/10/13 10:59 PM
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I have a buddy who is hardcore into PUA and can take almost any chick home but can't get into a relationship. I don't know your situation specifically so I'll speak to his as maybe it will relate. He focuses so much on what to say and what to do - he has an answer for everything. The problem is it's all on the surface and he has no depth. All the lines, and situations he knows how to knock out of the park don't age well. You can only ask a girl if "it hurt when she fell" (as a shitty example) so…
/r/seduction03/10/13 10:07 PM
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Was with a girl at a bar. She stole my favorite cap to try and get a rise out of me. I didn't react (because I'm there with my friends to have a good time and I don't let anything get in the way of having a good time). Later that evening part of our group was out having a smoke, including the two of us. I was the first to enter, and she followed right behind me. In the stair well leading back up to the bar, I stop, give her a big sensual kiss. Stop, look in her eyes for a second. The look of dis…
/r/seduction01/10/13 03:54 AM
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Open your arms. If you are taller, lean downwards towards the person. Close in to light chesticle contact. Enclose arms around the other person. Hold this pose for 3~ seconds, and gauge whether the other person lightens their grip or not. If they do, release in a smooth motion. If the continue to hold, you can do so as well at your discretion. When done properly it looks something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNpIPqNj_NU
/r/seduction01/10/13 03:10 AM
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"You think so? Bet we could get a 3 some." Love for all - turns it right around back to her. And hey, you might get lucky.
/r/seduction11/09/13 10:36 PM
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The goal should always be self improvement. For example how you ask a question here changes everything: "I have a date with this chick and [insert circumstance]?" it's about her. It's oneitus. or "In [insert circumstance], what is a good approach?" it's about you and learning for all future opportunities, and improvement yourself. It's ok to use the date as an example, but remember it's not about the date, it's about you improving and leveling up. It's the same question, just asked slightly diff…
/r/seduction04/09/13 07:20 PM
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The nice guy problem is simple. If you are being nice and expecting something out of it, it's obvious, selfish and manipulative. You're essentially trying to trick someone into an agreement they don't know about. This will result in either being seen as creepy (because how far will you take it?) or getting used. If you are being nice because you are genuinely a nice person, you will have no trouble finding women. They will see that you are nice to everyone and you have no expectations of anythin…
/r/seduction02/09/13 09:18 PM
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Definitely right for a solution. As for insight into the problem, or the "why" - it's that he's defining himself by who he could be with, not who he is. Women read through that and get turned off faster than a Dr Seuss book.
/r/seduction23/05/13 12:23 AM
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Yep. I have friends who can pick up girls at a bar no problem. They lose them within weeks after though, because all they know is one-offs, and when they "catch" someone, they are scared of losing it. It's because when they got the girl, they didn't do it by being themselves, and it doesn't take long for the girl to see through it. Me on the other hand, I never go to bars with the intent of picking up chicks, I go with the intent of having fun - and what do you know chicks love that. I love that…
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:53 PM
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When I got divorced, I realized I was a very cynical person. By nature I never was so it caught me off guard. Most people who know me will tell you I am one of the most easy going guys you will ever meet. But at this point in my life it definitely wasn't so. What I realized was, the relationship between me and my wife had deteriorated to the point where the only stimulating conversation we had was criticizing other people, and so that became a part of me. I was not happy with her, I was even les…
/r/seduction17/10/12 08:11 PM
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5 is fascinating. It's definitely backwards thinking. It's so true though. When person A does something for person B, person A is now invested, and wants to protect that investment. It's a strange piece of human nature. Like poker, people are more inclined to bet more, once they've already put so much into the pot. It's not just the investment though, there are many other psychological tangents as well. For example, Person B appears to be a leader - leaders get things done. This creates the appe…
/r/seduction17/10/12 07:14 PM
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Pretty much. More than think.... Believe. Remember, confidence means not outcome dependent. If people see you being yourself, and enjoying life - they will want a piece of that.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:12 PM
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Yep. That's social anxiety. The reverse is the guy who is looked at like a hero. It's unfortunate, but as you get older, it matters less. Also the whore defense usually comes from bitter guys, keep that in mind.
/r/seduction03/10/12 11:02 PM
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This is something that happens with younger girls, because as girls mature they become more comfortable with sex, get past their insecurities and it becomes part of their identity. Either that or the girl is using sex as leverage and manipulation. I've never met a girl over 25 who would say it. Frankly, if a girl says this, she is likely not being satisfied adequately and it's a chore or uncomfortable for her. It's insane how much sex girls want once they trust and feel comfortable with their pa…
/r/seduction03/10/12 10:56 PM
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You are outcome dependent which directly effects your ability to be, and be seen as confident.
/r/seduction03/10/12 10:48 PM
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Telling them how good they look without makeup. Basically, letting them know they don't have to be insecure about things, because you won't judge them for it.
/r/seduction03/10/12 10:47 PM
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It can also be many things - social anxiety, internalized self control (that is the fear of losing oneself by giving in, usually brought on by social anxiety), self consciousness, insecurity, etc. We are hard wired to want sex, both men and women. I have never met a girl that isn't a sex fiend once we break past those barriers.
/r/seduction03/10/12 10:40 PM
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They haven't decided it's not a date until you put pressure on them to define it as such. Have fun, build attraction, and then they'll be putting pressure on you to call it a date. They key is to have fun with outcome independence. When they see you can have fun, and that it's not directly tied to them and they are along for the ride, they will want to attach themselves to it.
/r/seduction03/10/12 08:52 PM
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At the end of the day, most girls want guys who are going to make their life better. Not guys who are going to put pressure on them. This includes all facets of being unable to take care of himself, such as neediness, uncleanliness, lack of stability, etc. Seduction is about attractiveness and being a more attractive person. PUA is about getting laid. I fully agree with you. My advice is always "If she doesn't feel lucky to be with you, then you will never be the man of her dreams".
/r/seduction29/09/12 01:01 AM
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You need to identify what you want out of it, so you can filter. There is a reason this stuff works, and it's because it's fun and exciting, and girls like it. And when you take out the depersonalization of an objective, and use it to have fun, it's pretty cool. My GF calls me a dick 5 times a day, while she's getting ready to rip my clothes off. Seriously, it can be incredibly passionate when you know how to get a girl going in the right way. Personally, I have no interest in ONS, or PUA, been …
/r/seduction06/09/12 12:20 AM
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This is absolutely it. Girls are attracted to guys who can just let it go and have fun. More importantly, if you aren't having fun, why are you doing it in the first place?
/r/seduction05/09/12 08:56 PM
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Do Be confident with yourself and let that show. Make it about having fun and enjoying life - you're young and that's what you should be doing. That is attractive to girls. Tell her how awesome she is, saying things like "You're pretty cool, you know that?" makes her feel validated and comfortable with you. Don't Avoid raising expectations. If she thinks you have expectations, that puts pressure on her, and to avoid pressure she'll friend zone you. Let her raise expectations when she wants to. S…
/r/seduction30/08/12 10:06 PM
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Don't tell her what you think of her, tell her what she is. "You're pretty cool, lets hang out" vs "I think you're cool, wanna hang out?" The first one is chill and fun, the second is needy. Girls aren't interested in the guy who's "hoping" to meet someone. They are interested in the guys who are confident and know how to have fun ;) Edit: As you will find out eventually, you can actually say what ever you want. Delivery can sell anything. However first you have to start out by putting yourself …
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:26 PM
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Some comments. First - move on, you're done here. If you see her at a party, let her approach you first. Other than that it ain't gonna happen, she's already friend zoned you. While you didn't say it directly, she lost interest in you because you don't have confidence, and you spent your time trying to get her to like you. This makes you look needy, which is easily the #1 turnoff for girls. Don't go on dates. This isn't the 50's anymore and going on "dates" sets expectations. Expectations make y…
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:06 PM
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I totally just made this comparison before seeing yours. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/yveje/how_to_deal_with_im_too_old_for_you_and_age/ Absolutely agree.
/r/seduction27/08/12 08:17 PM
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As someone who has often dated girls 5-10 years older than me since I was 18, the advice in this thread is solid. Right now I'm 26 dating 34. Don't let her qualify you, turn it around on her. The most common comment I get when dating older women is "how come you're so mature compared to guys my age". And it's because I qualify them and show I have standards, instead of coming across needy and wanting. Usually they are hesitant to tell me their age when it comes up, because I've already set the p…
/r/seduction27/08/12 08:14 PM
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And that's the problem - it encourages the thinking that "If I have this one girl that I want my life will be complete". Seduction is about making yourself a better more attractive (not just looks) person.
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:42 PM
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Absolutely no PUA says that, unless you truly have found a hack. A lot do, just click the link. And it's false - no matter how good you are, you cannot get any girl you want. Saying this doesn't improve confidence in the long run - it just tells the guys that they aren't good enough when they fail. It's hard to maintain confidence when you fail if your failure was your own inadequacy. You won't get 'that' girl, but you will get 'more' girls. This is spot on. P.S. Taking a pen was smart, but bein…
/r/seduction23/08/12 11:27 PM
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Biggest lie told in the seduction community The point is to point out the hacks. And yes this is said within in the community. It's well intentioned, but it's no different than a teacher telling kids they can be anything they want when they grow up. https://www.google.com/search?q=pua+get+any+girl+you+want&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a You obviously haven't been around the PUA community much.
/r/seduction23/08/12 10:14 PM
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I wanna learn to be that guy who has fun with a girl and then they both move on without any hard feelings. This is a crap shoot man. I've been honest with many girls up front - not looking for anything serious. At least half still get attached even though they tell me they won't. Think of it like the guy who tells the girl everything she wants to hear, only in this case it's reversed. Since you are young I will tell you this now, and if you understand it, it will save you a lot of time and frust…
/r/seduction23/08/12 09:50 PM
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Not just host, but social coordinator. Be the guy who everyone calls to find out what's going down on a Friday night.
/r/seduction23/08/12 09:08 PM
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That you can have any girl you want if you're good enough. It's quite normal that not all girls will want you, no matter how much ass you kick. Just because one girl doesn't fancy you, doesn't mean there was weakness in your game or attempt. To accept that is to accept that girls actually have a say in the matter and may have personal preferences, much like most guys. *edit: I'm seeing a girl right now, tall skinny blond, who hates guys who have tone and definition (I'm pretty average). It gross…
/r/seduction23/08/12 08:57 PM
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As a former nice guy, remember 2 things: She doesn't owe you anything, and you can't/wont ever be the man of her dreams if she doesn't feel lucky to be with you. What you want to do is reverse it so she's chasing you, not the other way around. I always setup "dates" as group events. Firstly it's a lot more comfortable for her. Secondly, mystery is hot, and she is in the dark as to what your intentions are. Finally - your friends validate you, especially if you hang out with a lot of female frien…
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:22 PM
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Have fun and don't give a shit. I don't hint at relationships, because I frankly don't want one. Unless she has decided she wants to be with you, dropping the relationship stuff will probably creep her out. If she wants it she'll push the issue. As for the other girls? I just say TPFR. When they realize you don't give a fuck, you look confident and secure, and they want in on that action. Girls know I like girls, and I'm not shy about being upfront about it, cause girls are freaking awesome. I h…
/r/seduction13/04/12 05:29 PM
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I am clinically depressed, and most definitely not forever alone - I actually have really solid game and a slew of guys always taking me out to wing regularly. But yea it's unfortunate that FA project so much negativity and then wonder why they feel like shit. Also, not sure if anyone has pointed it out to them - GIRLS LIKE TO FUCK and the Disney fantasy's FA want are actually quite a turn off. Depression is not fun, please don't lump it with people who are chronically bitter about everything. :…
/r/seduction07/04/12 10:11 PM
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You have more important shit to worry about. I'd just ignore it personally, because whiners are no fun. Also, the more you give credence to it, the more she will associate you WITH her first world problems. Seriously, be more interesting and walk away. thereby causing her to ignore you. This will only happen if she saw you as a gay bff already, and found someone else to bitch to in your place. Girls who are interested in you don't whine much, because they are self conscious and don't want you to…
/r/seduction28/02/12 12:15 AM
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I don't get how their relationships get past the first date because you can spot a crazy bitch a mile off. Because sex. Or even worse, the allure of potential sex. Some guys need to develop a backbone and stop putting up with this because it only enables.
/r/MensRights02/02/12 12:03 AM
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Definitely. I've seen it before too. However that's a huge turn off for me. To be conducive to my preference for just having fun, she's got to be conducive to taking risk :)
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:29 PM
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Good luck man, let me know how it goes :)
/r/seduction20/01/12 12:05 AM
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I think you spent too much time letting her try and figure out what it means with you. Her continuously reinforcing that you're not together is interesting. What you haven't said is even more interesting - you haven't really clarified what you want, and really haven't shown any emotion towards being interested in the girl yourself. That said, it seems as though she's playing games with you, for one reason or another. If you have fun when you hang out with her, that's all that matters - but I can…
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:56 PM
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You're too outcome dependent. Instead of thinking about getting numbers, just talk. As you gain confidence, instead of seeing girls as opportunities, you'll find it's just fun to shoot the shit with strangers. Girls will see that gained confidence and want to hang out with you more, will ask for your number, and try and get you to do things with them. :) When I had trouble approaching, I was jaded from not getting numbers, or like you getting numbers from girls with bf's (though sometimes that w…
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:28 PM
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Interesting read. I agree with some, and disagree with some. I have always been one that is interested in self improvement. Seddit for me is one area of my life I can accomplish this. In fact, the magical lines that PUA's will spit out, are nothing more than clever gimmicks. They work, and there is a reason for it. I'm more interested in the underlying psychological reasons behind it than the quirky parlor tricks. In terms of personal improvement, this will ensure that I am able to adapt to situ…
/r/seduction06/01/12 08:48 PM
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I met Day9. When we were introduced to each other, he looked at me like we had been best friends from 10 years ago and was amazed to see me. "How's it going [biffy]?!!". It doesn't happen often but I was incredibly disarmed. I would have bought him a beer on the spot if I could have.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:40 PM
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When you care more about her than she cares about you, she owns the relationship. Bingo. To make it worse, she's less likely to care because she has nothing to gain. You want the exact opposite. You cannot be the man of her dreams if she doesn't feel lucky to be with you.
/r/seduction23/12/11 07:39 PM
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than.. *ಠ_ಠ *
/r/seduction22/12/11 08:38 PM
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Become needy and push for crazy commitments, start texting them every 15 minutes, and get upset if they don't reply right away.
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:53 PM
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kekekekeke :P
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:39 PM
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6.Tell them you are Wang Jaji. Perfect opener guaranteed laughs.
/r/seduction20/12/11 06:24 PM
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He's a pawn in a drama circle, and by allowing it he's dlv'ing. He needs to gtfo of those group dynamics. They are using him for their own internal status, and he's letting it fly. He's playing their games. The real question is, why is it only K S and B? Don't get caught in one social circle, because you are hanging yourself. Blackout, let them initiate, drop DLV and let them qualify instead. If invited to a party, show up for an hour and then "have somewhere better to be". In the mean time, get…
/r/seduction19/12/11 10:32 PM
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Try the IRC. We're always doing ad hoc FR's.
/r/seduction19/12/11 10:25 PM
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Are you going after Koreans specifically? In my experience (living on the west coast) Korean girls are mostly looking for a dude with a CC who wants to go to the mall. You keep the money flowing and they'll hang around.
/r/seduction19/12/11 10:07 PM
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Not low expectations, but controllable expectations. Inner validation as opposed to outer validation.
/r/seduction19/12/11 07:27 PM
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Well, I can't really get into specifics because you didn't give any. But I can say pretty confidently that you probably have that plea in your eye, you know the one that says "please love me". It comes down to expectations. As soon as a girl "figures you out" you're done. So more than likely you are inadvertently raising the expectations, probably uber afc style. I wrote these awhile back. Read them. Basically you need to turn the tables, make yourself interesting so that girls chase you. http:/…
/r/seduction19/12/11 06:39 PM
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If you are there to pickup chicks - chicks will see through you. If you are there having a good time, chicks will want to be associated with said good time. Then it doesn't matter if they see you fail a set because you didn't fail, you don't give a fuck because you're just having a good time.
/r/seduction19/12/11 06:19 PM
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It really boils down to what your expectations are. If you set high expectations, you will constantly be disappointed. Girls have good radar for it too, as soon as they think they can read you, you're done. If you're just there to have fun, girls will wonder why you aren't doting on them like every other guy.
/r/seduction19/12/11 06:17 PM
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By not giving a fuck.
/r/seduction19/12/11 06:11 PM
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One easy way is to look at a girl's Facebook and see what type of guys she dates. What Marco said, and ** you don't want to be like every other guy **
/r/seduction19/12/11 05:59 PM
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Why do you give a fuck? Let him lead by example... if he can't or doesn't, stop wasting your time and go talk to chicks without him. I really hope that wasn't the focal point of your night... Does anyone have any experiences with guys faking a big ego like this? I can honestly say no - I'm too busy having fun... You know that thing you do when you go out. ;)
/r/seduction19/12/11 05:51 PM
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Rape. LOL
/r/seduction15/12/11 11:20 PM
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Nice work guys, this is good stuff.
/r/seduction17/10/11 06:54 PM
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I fully agree. Every AFC believes they are unique and not like the other guys. The side bar might help, but more often than not they would still post even if they read it. They are sick, and they need help. Oneitus is a symptom of a bigger problem. They are a disservice to women everywhere, and we can help fix that. Instead of flaming or downvoting or deleting to oblivion, I'd advocate for pointing out why they won't get with that one girl so we can setup a frame to rework their thought process.…
/r/seduction13/10/11 07:05 PM
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Neg the shit out of that, it'll catch her off guard and drive her interest levels up. "Unique? I'd say so ;)"
/r/seduction11/10/11 07:05 PM
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I used to have that problem, things are going well with a girl, was hoping to escalate, and would always blow it. Then I decided fuck that, I'm going to just have fun. I'd rather die single and happy, than single and lonely. Once I changed my perspective, I found girls started coming to me. Yes, it's that easy ;)
/r/seduction11/10/11 07:03 PM
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For most women, physical attraction is driven much more by other attributes aside from appearance... This has been proven time and time again. This is why guys can have game, whereas a girls game is to "look good".
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:58 PM
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Statistically, guys are more attractive to girls when another girl is beside him. Mating bias et al. Don't turn her down, instead just treat her like a good guy friend, she might have cute friends or even set you up. I had a less attractive girl come start flirting with me, and I just went along with it (as in just having fun, because that's what a motherfuckin boss does when he goes out). After awhile she introduced me to her friends. Turns out one of the girls thought I was cute, and the first…
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:41 PM
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By being happy with yourself
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:34 PM
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Stop caring and have fun. Seriously, drop all expectations. If you telegraph expectations then you'll come off as needy. Create a plan, and execute it, with or without her. It's alpha, and good for you either way. "Hey, some friends and I are going to this [totally nerdy thing that she would like] you should come."
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:31 PM
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"Seduction can only help you become more attractive to women in general". It's understanding what women want, and what women want. I definitely want to settle down with a partner in crime, and take over the world. By understanding the ins and outs of attraction, I can make sure that my partner has a fulfilling, passionate relationship together with me. Anything less is a disservice to women ;). Oneitis is when you decide that one specific girl is the girl you have to have. You are actually insul…
/r/seduction30/09/11 12:00 AM
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I used to think that, but then you realize gaming is the modern fire dance of attraction. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is a classic players reference, specifically the scene where they are about to retire for the night. Holy shit it's hot, sexy, and passionate. They are totally gaming each other. Willie: I can be hard to handle. Indy: I've had worse. Willie: (seductive) But you'll never have better. Indy: I don't know. As a scientist I don't want to predjudice my experiment. I'll let you…
/r/seduction29/09/11 12:08 AM
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Moral of the story, if you play your cards right, she will come after you. Women love to put effort into attracting guys.
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:16 PM
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And it works well for them, because they're good at it. No, there are just too many AFC's who suck at it, and will do whatever women want. This is why saying no, playfully of course, drives their interest up. You become a challenge. "Why isn't he bending over for me like every other AFC? This intrigues me" How do I recognize when a woman are gaming me? Assume they are. This is the modern fire dance of attraction. How do I recognize what a woman is trying to get out of me/what sort of things they…
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:11 PM
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Yea, that's fine, but I'm just pointing out how it comes off to her. It reads as a typical "nice guy" and it's not that interesting to her. Me:How many guys in hats did you hit on that you didn't save my number? This is exactly it. I know you were trying to be funny, but because you framed yourself as a nice guy, it comes off as insecure. Secondly, she probably does have 3-4 guys chasing her at any given time that you have to be more interesting than.
/r/seduction28/09/11 06:26 PM
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"My BFF said so and so said something stupid about me" "My mom is ragging on me to spend more time studying / less time at the bar" Pedantic shit. Another way to put it, is she upset that the world isn't revolving around her?
/r/seduction28/09/11 04:49 PM
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Hey HB7, I'm going to be getting some coffee tomorrow around 230 in (this area of town). I don't know how close that is to you, but are you interested? This is where you failed. You're getting coffee.. by yourself? You plan to have solo coffee dates at specific times? You were too obvious with the expectations. This means you are boring because she knows exactly what you want, which is what every other AFC wants. Coffee is boring. You might as well have asked if you could stop by for a hug becau…
/r/seduction28/09/11 12:04 AM
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** Examples of making her chase you ** Please note that only a retard would think that any of these could be followed to a tee. You have to be ready to adapt, they are merely examples of setting the frame and driving her interest up. At a bar (I've used this example a few times before) You: "How's it going?" Girls will tell you they prefer this approach, but it is the least successful. I like it because I can turn it around on them right away Her: "Fine/Good/Ok" From here you can ask specific qu…
/r/seduction27/09/11 10:23 PM
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Firstly clean up your post, that's really hard to read. Secondly, while you are probably accidentally gaming her perfectly, her interest in you is probably more one-itus based. If you would go after any of the other girls but her, that leads me to believe she is a bit insecure and desperate underneath. Thirdly, should you game every girl like you accidentally gamed her? You almost already are. The difference is with her, you are playing hard to get. This plays off her insecurities which makes he…
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:17 PM
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I always ask if I can pay. "Do you mind if I pay? I'm kind of old fashion, and believe in treating a woman right" They always say yes. Some comment how flattering it is, because no other guys ask, they just do it They often set up the second date because they feel they owe me It shows that I have confidence and assertiveness in key situations Especially after a strong night of back and forth flirting, neg and shit testing, this throws away any expectations of me she may have built, which is good…
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:10 PM
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“Hey, totally forgot to mention this to you at the review session the other day. My fraternity is having a party this weekend, you should come. You can bring your boyfriend too” motions towards guy sitting next to her. She responded with “Oh, no he’s not… I don’t have a boyfriend.” You basically just made her friend zone this guy. I would guess that's exactly what he was trying to avoid. You've got this one. Be confident, go out and have fun.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:58 PM
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It's an ok start... I guess. But you need to make yourself more interesting. “yeah, I did the same thing” This is a shy, passive thing to say. You're basically lowering your own value. You should have said something more aggressive - "Nice one, Einstein" or "So you really just like to jump into things eh?" This establishes a strong frame for the conversation. I pretty much already have my line to get out of small-talk when hanging out at the party; "So the only thing I know about you is that you…
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:41 PM
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I think it's a great idea. I'm currently seeing a girl who is incredibly shy, but a total sweetheart. I'm trying to bring out her inner personality and confidence.
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:53 PM
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You're over thinking it. Being gone makes you interesting, just be honest with her "I'm outa town this weekend, I'll give you a call when I get back :)" If what you've said is accurate, the attraction is there, and your absence will only build anticipation.
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:10 PM
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Because I'm confident, cool and collected. At the root this plays off peoples' insecurities, which makes them want to be around me more. I don't go after every girl, only the ones I'm interested in. When they're thinking "Holy shit, finally a guy who's got his act together, this is who I've been looking for" They always call back.
/r/seduction27/09/11 12:58 AM
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That's only a problem if you don't have the confidence to destroy those notions and create intrigue.
/r/seduction27/09/11 12:02 AM
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on the contrary he is framing me as an average guy that would never dare stand up to a woman (catch her shit tests) or show a shred of sexiness or an ability to take care of things on my own. TPFR: Use this situation to your advantage. It's like driving a shitty car, or having a shitty apartment. Joke about it, because if you care, they care. First take Mike out of the equation, because if he sticks around, he's in the way: Mike: "Here's my friend I was telling you about [who's a complete wuss a…
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:42 PM
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I have a big fat cowboy hat. It is an awesome conversation starter when you don't live in a "western" style locale.
/r/seduction26/09/11 09:24 PM
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Like CurveBall, I get a 1:1 response. That is if I #Close, I always get a date. Your problem is probably one of two things: Girls are prone to cave to peer pressure, that is either they are scared of upsetting you, or you are annoying, so they give you their number so you'll go away. This means your approach in getting the numbers is off. You are texting them too soon, or coming off as too needy when you do text them. Because girls want to give you the benefit of the doubt, and will reply if the…
/r/seduction26/09/11 09:16 PM
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You don't want to set the expectations. If you play the date right, she'll let you know that she wants to come over. The entire night is a prelude to this. There is a good chance she's already decided what she wants to do, but you will still have all the influence over it (and could even change her mind - either way). Since you've kissed already, you need to tease the shit out of her. Be playful, and have lot's of fun. Make her want you to kiss her again, but don't do it. This will drive up the …
/r/seduction26/09/11 09:05 PM
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She is from my social circle and I think I have screwed up more than one thing, like talking about another girl when I was with her That's not a screw up - you are an adult (I think) and it's perfectly normal for 2 adults to talk to each other. If this was a problem for her, then she has maturity issues. Thing is, how would you drop her? Radio silence? Honest talk? I dont want to seem angry or resentful by going radio silence yet I dont want to seem a pussy by talking about it. Pretend you didn'…
/r/seduction26/09/11 07:07 PM
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Two tickets to [comedy club / amateur sports / theatre] Big group gone, go for the close.
/r/seduction26/09/11 06:43 PM
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That being said, most girls won't play games like this, she probably legit has a relationship starting with this guy. Her saying friend earlier was because she hadn't thought through what she was going to tell you about him, and you had no right to know if he was a friend or more. This is absolutely correct. In fact you shouldn't have joked about it, because it implies that you want more, and shows that her texting other guys is on your mind, and that makes you boring, needy, etc. Girls all the …
/r/seduction26/09/11 06:36 PM
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4Mv09s2KMBg/Tn_piBfywQI/AAAAAAAAToc/-ZfaSO0oJzU/s1600/0GetHer.gif This sums it up pretty eloquently. Basically, girls love to be challenged. This is why playing hard to get works. To attract any girls you have to be different than all the other guys chasing her. By implying that you might be interested but aren't sure, you challenge her on multiple levels. Firstly you are saying you're not that easy, which makes you interesting compared to the guys lined up to have her …
/r/seduction26/09/11 06:22 PM
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No this is absolutely not the case. When you sacrifice your identity to 'respect a woman's wishes' you get friend zoned. It's not being a dick to say no. It's the opposite, it's showing that you have a backbone and are strong and assertive, and that you have more interesting things to do than to be their stool. Does this mean you should never help a lady out? No. Does it mean you shouldn't go out of your way to help a lady out? Yes.
/r/seduction23/09/11 10:24 PM
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"It's not you it's me". Classic. You friend zoned yourself by doing everything an AFC friend zoned would do: She invited me over last night at 11, and so I went. I gave her a full body massage. She made it clear that I wasn't getting any tonight, but that didn't bother me. She pops some Tylenol and we go to sleep spooning. I'm not saying you should have reacted negatively, but you basically proceeded to provide her with everything she would expect out of a gay best friend. Going over late at nig…
/r/seduction23/09/11 09:02 PM
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The quality of women is good. The nice thing about Vancouver, is there are always people moving here from all over the world. The local girls are pretty hit or miss - a lot are looking for someone to show up and make their life right. The ones who move here though, are usually very professional and career oriented. In terms of attractiveness, it's probably above average because the nice summers and plenty of beaches, as well as a culture that fosters staying healthy.
/r/seduction23/09/11 07:09 PM
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Because I am a keen observer. I have lived here for 8 years. When girls are admitting that they're settling because they don't think they can do better, it means the guys are dropping the ball. There's a lot of "nice" AFC's, and there's a lot of guys with nothing attractive going for them. The girls who are aware of this have been using a term to describe guys here, they call them "man babies" - aka guys who can't take care of themselves and are looking for a surrogate mother. I'm not saying the…
/r/seduction23/09/11 06:57 PM
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We have all the answers to your problem, however there is no magical pill to fix it. You have to recognize what women want, as Marcob10 said, and you have to identify your inner ladies man and let him out. I can tell you right now, your problem is not unique. You are an AFC who lacks confidence and are boring to the women. As spunaround said, read through the side bar. Once you've done that, present us with scenarios where you didn't achieve the results you thought you would, and we will point o…
/r/seduction23/09/11 06:48 PM
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I like the cut of your jib, where abouts do you hail? OP - to elaborate on making the girls want you: If she is a 'tougher pickup' that means she has a lot of guys going for her. You want to be different and hint that there could be something there, but you're not sure yet. She'll be confused that you aren't her doormat like everyone else, and be dying to know more. Playing hard to get works really well, especially since most guys are easy.
/r/seduction23/09/11 06:15 PM
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You were boring, or tried to set expectations. Either way, you gave her 0 intrigue, and didn't make her chase you. You messed up somewhere before she told you she hates men, but since I don't have the details, I can't tell you where. Realistically you were boring. "That's cool, I understand what it's like." That's exactly what I would expect a friend to say. You were accommodating her and lining up to be her bitch buddy. This is what you really said, "There is nothing intriguing about me, but si…
/r/seduction23/09/11 06:05 PM
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Absolutely. A confident man will turn the biggest pile of shit into his advantage. I used to live in a bachelor suite with a closet big enough for a twin bed. That bed got a lot of use.
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:43 PM
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http://www.practicalpickup.com/shes-your-biggest-fan Read this first, because it illustrates my point better than I'll be able to. Go for it. If it doesn't work out, whatever it's life experience, but don't get caught up in any ensuing drama. As refined cultured men, we are above that. Don't talk about the other girls, and if she brings them up, just be vague and polite - "It just wasn't meant to be, we weren't a good fit". If you go into detail you are shooting yourself in the foot and dropping…
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:41 PM
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Vancouver is good, definitely has a fairly active social scene. The competition here is pretty sad actually. If you have a regular job, you're already ahead of the guys here. You would be competing against: couch surfers / living at home, trying to start a band well into their 30's but doesn't have a day job, high all the time, emotionally dependent, too busy blaming everyone else for their lack of progress in life. Seriously, the girls here are begging for someone with a modicum of responsibili…
/r/seduction23/09/11 04:53 PM
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I fully agree with having no expectations. That's not something people can switch on a dime though. As they internalize their expectations and options open up, they'll start to shift to that mentality. As for subreddit, seddit seems a bit skitz between PUA, and being more attractive to women. I personally don't put as much weight in PUA, but do respect it, but I find attraction makes PUA stuff more natural. If you have the confidence, you don't have to trick someone into dating you, as you say. …
/r/seduction23/09/11 05:17 AM
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It's something that's really screwing with my self-confidence. In fact, it happened a few times today. I greet girls, say hi, and everything else, and they do not return the same level of acknowledgement. There is an animal, that quite regularly exhibits this behavior. They have a constant need for reassurance, and are always craving reciprocation. This animal is a puppy. You are not a puppy, you are a man. If all your interactions are based around expecting reciprocation, you are screaming inse…
/r/seduction22/09/11 10:03 PM
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You are way over thinking this one dude. She agreed to come over and watch TV alone with you, that means she's already interested. She's over analyzing this more than you (just way better at hiding it). Don't create an agenda of what to do at what time and how to do it. Something will deviate from any plan you come up with, and you won't be ready to react. Instead take a more adaptive approach. Most importantly, chill and have fun.
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:34 PM
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What could I have said to be "different" and not just another "omg do you dance?" type approach? "Get good tips tonight?" - It would totally catch her off guard and set you up in a position of control. How do you avoid psyching yourself out and coming up with a bunch of bullshit excuses? I have a car battery wired to my nipples, and every time I wuss out I push a button in my pocket to shock me. Seriously though, you pysch yourself out because you aren't confident. You avoid this by being confid…
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:14 PM
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I agree, I have no interest in encouraging it. It's a terrible disservice to that one woman they are trying to get. The problem is most definitely in the AFC's approach, they are doomed to fail, and we all know this. They need to correct their approach, and we have the ability to help them do that. If we shut them down, then we aren't helping them... If they're lucky they may stumble on another forum that will, but in all likely-hood, they'll continue hopping from one woman to the next until som…
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:05 PM
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The problem with one-itis, is it's like trying to buy a car. If you are ready to walk away at any time, you are in control. Otherwise you're setting yourself up to get burned. AFC's are going to always post about this girl, or that girl, and they don't realize that they are doomed to failure already. They aren't going to read the side bar, because they believe their situation is unique. These are the people that need the most help. Back to the car scenario, if someone was asking for help on what…
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:40 PM
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Definitely. This is for people having problems only getting 2 dates or constantly getting friendzoned.
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:18 PM
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One of the most attractive things you can say to a girl is "no." She might have a hissy fit depending on the situation, but she'll respect you more.
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:14 PM
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My college has the unofficial slogan, "Where the odds are good, but the goods are odd." There is a study that shows, that a guy with a girl beside him (relationship or not) is more attractive. Build a good relationship with any and all girls you can, even if you aren't interested in them. This will show other girls, who you are interested in, that you are easy to get along with and will make you more appealing. When there's a girl that's classically attractive here, all the guys are over them. I…
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:12 PM
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So what is your question? Can a good first impression make you much more attractive to girls in the long run? The answer is most definitely yes, but that question I don't think is outlining your problem. You're a "nice guy" or AFC. You're going to keep getting friendzoned until you build up some confidence, and change your approach. You sir, are in the enviable position of having all the opportunities in the world to meet women.
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:54 PM
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'I don't date white guys because her friends boyfriend beats her' (I called her out on this shit btw.) You don't want her. Unless she was joking, saying things like this is unacceptable and she's looking for a puppy, not a boyfriend. As for getting friend zoned, she was comfortable going further from the sounds of it, but when you set the expectations, you made her uncomfortable and her interest dropped to 0. Stop setting expectations and you will stop getting friendzoned.
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:50 PM
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You nailed the opening. Something interesting to note, even though you lost your confidence, I guarantee that she was MORE nervous than you after that magical opening ;) If you can remember this next time, it'll be easier to stay collected. As neurotic as you feel, multiply that by about 5, and you have an idea what the girl is thinking - "omg don't do something dorky, is my hair ok? oh shit he saw my zit, I shoulda covered it up".
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:44 PM
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basically go to a girl's college What do you mean "basically"? You go to a girls college (because you are a girl) or you go to a college that primarily has girls (like nursing school or something?) if I didn't get friend-zoned by most of them, I'd have very few friends. As for having very few friends, the theory behind picking up women, is strikingly similar to enlarging your social sphere.
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:36 PM
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I agree. I think games like these are good AFTER you've shown that you are a confident cool guy, like second date. Then it makes you interesting. If you open with them though, you're trying too hard, especially since the girl KNOWS you're trying to pick her up. Actually something like this is money for later when you meet her friends. You'll blow her off guard because she didn't know you could do it, and her friends will be super interested in it (because you're obviously not doing it to try and…
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:31 PM
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Probably, but if you got friend zoned it's because you were too needy and tried to set the expectations instead of making her chase you.
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:23 PM
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I'm a fan of the "make them chase me" mentality. It keeps me in control. To do this, you have to stop chasing them after a certain point. Keep them wanting more. Walk away while you're ahead - it shows that you have the confidence to not need her. After you've established your opening, break out, it makes you interesting and intriguing, she'll want to know more. Something interesting, "Anyways I gotta meet up with some friends, I'll see ya round" (yes you have friends, you're a cool guy that peo…
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:20 PM
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I was able to hide the fact that I am entirely unsure of myself well enough to fool my target. What you fail to realize, is that 90%* of the population has the same issue. Most people are just making shit up as they go with the flow. Odds are any girl your with has more deeper insecurities than you, they're just better at hiding it. And now that I've told you this, it's no longer that everyone knows something you don't, it's you know something everyone else doesn't. Use that to unleash your calm…
/r/seduction22/09/11 06:09 PM
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I wouldn't. Either she was too shy with giving him her number, or uncomfortable with it. She gave him his email without him asking so probably shy, she wants to communicate that way at this point. I'd invite her via email to a party or some social gathering, because she's shy this will be a more open environment without expectations. Or at least something fairly public. One on one I imagine both of you would be pretty awkward, save that for the second outing once you have an event to talk about.…
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:02 AM
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Fully agree. The best way to show confidence is to pretend like you don't know anything even happened. It sounds like you missed your window. I agree with this too. But it doesn't matter because you are a cool collected manly stud and women chase you. So you'll still joke around with her and be buds, because that's what you do with all the ladies ;) Then they wonder why you don't chase after them like* every AFC out there*. And who knows, her interest level might go up, or she might have friends…
/r/seduction21/09/11 11:55 PM
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Any way to right this situation, seddit? You said it yourself: But it's the beginning of the semester so I'm hoping I might be able to use this as a learning experience and redeem myself Be ready to lose, NAY, Embrace it. This is how you learn, build character, and become the manly stud that you have inside you. Whenever I flop in some area of my life, I think to myself, "Fuck yes, I'm stronger now bitches" Which makes the whole thing seem funny to begin with.
/r/seduction21/09/11 11:17 PM
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Yep. I find sports are awesome for this. I used to have a small social network, then I started playing sports and trying to keep up with teammates in the off season. Now I have the first world problem of not being able to keep up with everyone, I have people calling me saying it's been too long since we hung out, and I have to schedule them in 2-3 weeks in advance. Not only do you meet people on the teams, but you get invited to other events, where you meet even more people. I can get 15~ people…
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:51 PM
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This is correct, and yes my case was only one example. However, it doesn't matter who the woman is, if she isn't comfortable with perceived expectations, you are done. This is more of an insight into why we fail, with an example of how it can be done right.
/r/seduction17/09/11 04:36 PM
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You know the smile that says "I know something you don't?". Flirt like that. To drive a woman crazy, be really coy about it when you flirt and keep her guessing. One I like is, walking down the street, mid conversation I stop. I grab her light by the shoulders so she's facing me, go in for a hug, and swing her around 360 in a bear hug. Then put her down and continue walking and pick up the conversation where we left off like nothing happened. If she says anything, at most I'll say just felt like…
/r/seduction17/09/11 12:48 AM
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Then I nonverbally friend zoned her. If you've done it right, she won't say I thought we were friends because you haven't told her you were friends but you have created enough attraction that she is trying to break your friends barrier, as opposed to the other way around. With this woman, I was messing around with her in under 2 weeks. If you're looking for a one night stand, then another approach will probably be better than this one - this approach is more about building a strong attraction ;)
/r/seduction17/09/11 12:39 AM
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That I'm not desperate? Were I in your shoes, I'd tell her to go to the game, seriously, for some people going to a local sporting event is a big deal. You're screaming insecurity by taking it personally.
/r/seduction16/09/11 08:06 PM
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Have you met her before? I would take cubs tickets any day over a 2.5 hour drive to meet someone I've never met.
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:43 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/estpo/frequently_asked_questions http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/eq77s/good_friends_with_this_girl_about_7_years_but/c1a2dx7
/r/seduction15/09/11 10:47 PM
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Is it effecting your ability to do your job? No? Then don't worry about it. I think you have the wrong sub reddit.
/r/seduction15/09/11 10:18 PM
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Be not that into her first. Seriously. You have to be different than all the other guys who are / have lined up to have her babies. Create mystery and make her wonder what your intentions are. Show that you could be interested.
/r/seduction15/09/11 09:11 PM
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Yep. You sir, are absolutely right. Elaboration edit: When I wrote that, I read it with the tone in my voice that I would say that in person. This of course doesn't happen in text, and more likely would come off like a puppy wanting to go for a walk.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:10 PM
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I think you're coming off as too easy and timid. Let her chase you a bit, you're busy and important - your life doesn't revolve around her (if it does she'll be turned off super fast), nothing wrong with waiting up to a week even. Every other guy at the bar is texting her the next day desperately trying to get a second date, you have to be more interesting than them. "Hey, it's [me] from last week, how're you doing?" "Good [...] How are you?" "I've been really busy [at work or school with a dead…
/r/seduction15/09/11 07:53 PM
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Go with it man. she's into you and you go for it win! she's into you and you don't do anything, and blow it she's not into you and you don't go for it, you'll never know and always be second guessing She's not into you and you go for it. Worst case scenario right? Wrong. If you come off as shy and sorry, then you lose in the friend zone. If you play it like it was no big deal (and pretend you weren't hitting on her) you show confidence and there are no hard feelings AND there is a chance she jus…
/r/seduction15/09/11 07:06 PM
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I have a 5 year plan. I change that plan at least twice a month.
/r/seduction09/05/11 08:35 PM
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Women are more inclined to take advantage of benefits and programs offered through employment, such as health care, mat leave, etc. The health care one is probably debatable, I don't have stats - but guys are too lazy to fill out the forms to expense the small things whereas woman are more diligent about it in my experience. Anecdotal I know. Mat leave though - how many guys do you know who take advantage of that? That's months of benefits to the employee with no appreciable benefit to the emplo…
/r/MensRights16/12/10 12:12 AM
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