bigdonut100 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
239	Feminists do not support stay at home dads	Social Issues	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 03:08 PM
101	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one?	Social Issues	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	23/07/26 04:23 PM
79	Is this why the "civil unions" argument never worked?	Legal Rights	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	07/03/26 11:16 AM
72	Why is everybody insane?	Social Issues	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	03/06/26 11:30 PM
67	Happy Father's day: "Father[s] often feel that what they have to contribute isn't valued [] and the outcome is [] boys are likely to do worse in more than 70 different areas" - Warren Farrell	General	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	21/06/26 08:22 PM
53	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 12:40 AM
39	"The chivalry hypothesis/thesis" in criminology - has anyone heard of this?	Social Issues	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	19/06/26 07:13 PM
33	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours)	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:01 PM
27	French, Spanish, Korean, and Arabic HELP re-creating the "do not retract/circumcise" baby shirts	Activism/Support	bigdonut100	/r/MensRights	30/05/26 12:54 AM
24	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women?	Question for BluePill	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 02:40 PM
18	Need Arabic translation for foreskin retraction baby shirts	intactivism	bigdonut100	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/05/26 04:27 PM
12	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:57 AM
4	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?	Question for BluePill	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 05:55 AM
3	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it.	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:58 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want"	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:57 PM
0	Question for blue pill: how come it's not considered "rape culture" when people complain that manosphere people have "issues" because they can't get laid?	Question for BluePill	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/26 10:32 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:46 AM
0	Question for women: What is your audio preference during sex?	Question For Women	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 01:08 AM
0	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 10:31 PM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 07:56 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men?	Question for RedPill	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 06:46 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is.	Debate	bigdonut100	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:20 PM

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–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Millionaires count their pennies to exploit the working class and cheat them out of their fair wages. If you are implying that men exploit women in the same manner, l totally agree with you. No, I think consumerism causes the "capitalist class" of men to work themselves into a slow suicide. I just don't know whether the life expectancy toll on a CEO or a stay-at-home dad is worse <image> I do know that yes, most of these men are doing this to meet women's standards for financial provisioning No.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 09:35 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer You’re an annoying and terrible example because your disdain for women is obvious and palpable. Projection, furnish evidence. Because of that, the chances of you finding what you want in a woman are negligible. Evidence of that needed too r/MisogynyDating	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 09:13 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date I like the way you jiggle, weatherman https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-5-episode-4-cahill	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 08:16 AM
–	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Nope hard disagree. The surrogate gets paid 80k not the kid. No, if the mother and father paid 40k each to hire a surrogate and then raised the baby, then hiring the surrogate would in fact be an 80k contribution from the parents to the child. So it works. I'm assuming there's no point really because the kid is supposed to inherit the 80k either way, but I suppose if you want the freedom to donate all your wealth to some godforsaken political club like my aunt intends to do when she dies, I ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 08:09 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? You're suggesting women kill kids because the fathers walk away? The point is the opposite: the fathers only walk away; the mothers don't just walk away (or give the baby up for adoption when there are always more couples who want to adopt than there are babies available); they deliberately kill. By libertarian standards, the mother is worse: if you don't feed someone and they starve to death, that is not as bad as deliberately shooting that person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:58 AM
–	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky One partner temporarily gives up earning capacity while taking on pregnancy, recovery, I think, as other people are suggesting, all of that is an approx 80k sacrifice she makes for the child. It is fair to ask the man to contribute 80k to the child equally. I'm sorry, but it isn't fair that she be entitled to anything more. Dual stay-at-home parents during breastfeeding is a thing, and both the mother and the father can be expected to save up a fair 50% for that. When someone's out of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:55 AM
–	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky I don't know if you've been reading my posts, but I have in fact been citing 80k as the figure that we can use to cap the "she gives birth and you don't" noise to persue a stay at home dad relationship all over this sub because it is in fact the max cost of an unregulated surrogate worldwide. Just that the man owes an 80k contribution to the child, like via a no-withdrawals-until-18 bank account, to justify 50% custody in a divorce in a state like Missouri; he doesn't owe her anything I came…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:40 AM
–	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Yes, there is. More men die of workplace injuries than women die in maternity. Jobs that involve a high risk of death are always given to the majority of men. And unregulated surrogates worldwide top out at 80k, most men contribute more than 80k per child in their life to their wives and children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:33 AM
–	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky That's why we need to drop this feminism nonsense and go back to when men were the head of the household and could tell women what to do. When was this? When women raised the children and thus got to brainwash the children into their pet religious and political beliefs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:31 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? men tell us all the time that they don’t give a shit about a woman’s intelligence or achievements, How do you mean? It's more that women give a shit about men's intelligence or achievements more than men give a shit about women's intelligence or achievements because hypergamy to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:22 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? Women getting more rights does not take rights away from men. Yeah, but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with equality either. If there was a racist system where black people couldn't drive cars and white people couldn't ride bikes, and there was a group that only fixed the white people not being able to ride bikes part, they would be a group that wants equality for whites; it's not intellectually honest to label them as supporting racial equality broadly. Similarly, feminists have alwa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:20 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? are you an anti feminist blue piller?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:16 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? yeah but it's not 1 rape = 1 dead baby, someone could say 10 rapes = 1 dead baby, someone could say 1,000,000 rapes = 1 dead baby	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:15 AM
–	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? Mothers kill the child 55% to 75% of the time compared to fathers	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 07:14 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:21 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer How am I an "annoying and terrible example?" I'm probably the one on this sub willing to make the most sacrifices for their children, and I think when whatever overlap of women who want to be female breadwinners and who happen to be anti-feminists finds me, they are gonna get wet as a waterfall; I might just find my wife in the honey badger discord Gay and bi men aren't misogynists, dude, it's just that we don't need women in the same way straight men do, so we can talk about women with no filte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:19 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Projection. This thread is about calling out a double standard where it's considered a form of rape for a man to expect a woman to do stuff to him if she finishes first, but the gender opposite doesn't work. That is WOMEN's entitlement with flying colors. Gay and bi men aren't misogynists, dude, it's just that we don't need women in the same way straight men do, so we can talk about women with no filter. We have studies that show when women are treated equally to men, it's viewed as misogyny, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:17 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer How is this the parallel to the orgasm debate? The female orgasm quantity gap's mirror is the male orgasm quality gap, where when women DO cum, they have multiple orgasms, see shapes, and go to outer space, and sometimes do it without touching themselves at all etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:12 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I sense sarcasm	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:10 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Yes, I saw. Who cares, though? What do you think I meant by demand? I mean I'm not seeing her again if she doesn'nt do it, that is all	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 05:45 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date yeah what makes you think I didn't basically mean me saying this: me: if you get this one, I can pay for the next one if you want a [third] date It's just if she's not on board with equality (or if she didn't insist on paying for herself) she can take a hike	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 05:26 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date It's not really dancing around; it's just another form of splitting 50- 50. If you're suggesting that I should just demand 100% payment because I want to be the primary caregiver and I want her as the breadwinner, say that, and then sort all of this out in a fight to the death with the people here who want a "the person who asks out pays" system, because that will never be in men's favor	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 05:15 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer no, women or men, I am ok being called a future house bitch as a guy into reversal	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 05:02 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date oh lol, but then I used request Is this who women are? You say "demand" instead of another word and suddenly they are filled with images of domestic violence or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:49 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No, I just mean that trans girls are humbler and less entitled than cis girls on average. Because life shits on trans women like how it shits on cis men and that creates humility Squirting is "fake" female ejaculation because it's mostly pee, women who don't squirt still produce a small amount of "real" ejaculation, just sort of a quarter teaspoon of some sperm-like goo If you are anything other than a gay man, you asking this question is kinda self-reporting	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:48 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Men who need to count their pennies shouldn't be dating in the first place. What do you mean? Sometimes the richest people around count their pennies; that's how they got to be rich. Everybody has that one friend who has that millionaire friend and says, "You would never tell it, because he buys the same pleb Walmart clothes and follows the same frugality tips most middle-class plebs do" and they don't do their chores Where is this coming from? Is this you getting personal because you know I wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:18 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to request payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:01 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to request payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:01 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to request payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 04:01 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Because it's not about what words "objectively" mean, it's about what you mean when you use a word https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ Hence I asked her for her definition of demand	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:56 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date So what are you? "men should buy women things because fuck em?" This is why screening is needed	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:55 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date What if it wasn't a game? What if it's just "pay 50%"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:44 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date "Your suggestion is strange because it involves me paying for things anywhere ever"	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:34 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Great, go argue with the people who made the feminist statistics and tell my gfs to last longer, reply notification off	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:15 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No, I do. I've only gone wanting like 5 times I've gotten started up vs the 10,000 or so times if you include masturbations since I was nine. It is genuinely torture; I'm not a rapist and I can go wanting a 6th time, but then she can find someone else. The only time I could get into it is just now, if it worked into a femdom thing, and then she needs to do that so yeah she needs to do something	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:06 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So you can solve the contradiction the other way and just agree that feminists are wrong and that "if you're not puttin out, i'm movin on" isn't really rape? As was the point of the satire?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 02:54 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So is the "economic coercion" of a man controlling a stay-at-home mom's livelihood if she doesn't fuck him ok as long as he just bails without giving her the option to fuck him first? If he just leaves and doesn't tell her? When the blue pill is supposed to be about communication? lol I love feminism	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 02:47 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Oh it's worse than that. You can have a situation where two breadwinners have an equal salary, but they have different numbers of kids, or you can have a situation where two breadwinners have different salaries, but the homemaker's job is the same for different salaries You're supposed to swallow that inequality because if it's trad, there are economic benefits and greater stability, or if it's a reversal it's because there are economic benefits and benefits to the children, in involved father…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 02:32 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No there are men on here who like me https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uzha1i/comment/oyxvthr/ There are also people in real life and people in the mens rights subs who love me https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v4iqa8/is_the_idea_of_women_finishing_before_men_really/ The very first time I said on the men's rights sub, "I want to put alimony in my favor to compensate for a lack of domestic violence and grape services" I was shocked when it got 10 upvotes. Having never …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 02:03 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date I'm guessing it works really well for you. Yeah, this is the problem: people come up with ideas about how they should try to start dating they think will work for them as an individual, and you can just blow ALL of it off with "well it didn't work for you yet, so eat shit loser." I think that's a fallacy, but I don't know which one I hear "demand" and I picture a man who views dating as a transactional act. I hear "I don't want equality by paying you" and I'm thinking she views it as a trans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:55 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date I don't know, if it's repeatedly lopsided in your relationship, then that should be addressed, but I don't eat significantly more than most women as a man, maybe just an ounce of protein more And again, an opportunity to screen people if they are intentional dicks, better to screen a witch who plays this game out on the second date instead of her playing some sort of game with the custody of my children in five years	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:49 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date The Webster Dictionary definition. "a : an act of demanding or asking especially with authority a demand for obedience" Circular reasoning "b : something claimed as due or owed the demands of the workers' union" Yes, I am claiming she owes me a meal after I give her the first one. That is a "demand" for equality. This is why dictionary definitions are bad arguments "But I'm guessing this works out very well for you and you have many successful second dates." No dude, your flair literally says …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:39 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date But then do sober women take advantage of drunk men more often than the reverse?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:29 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date when switch me dated if I was dating a guy who was my sub, I paid, a Dom, they paid. No man ever had a problem with it, except for some blushing from subs. Yeah, that's another weird thing: professional paid doms are considered ok but paying a pro sub is frowned upon, but then when it comes to relationships rather than hired work, it switches	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:28 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Yeah, like when autistic people turn to communication books and job interview books, those are people looking to figure out how to "demand" raises and promotions from their boss What do you guys mean by "communicate instead?" You mean on the first date, offer to pay 100%, then say, "but you pay 100% next time" and do it at the start of the date? Who is suggesting that "you pay me now" on the second date isn't communication?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:23 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Definition of demand No, she gets one free meal. If she wants meal #3 on me, she has to show a willingness to pay for meal #2; she needs to demonstrate equality. The only alternative to equality in this are would be her paying for everything since I refuse to not be the primary caregiver, me asking for equality instead of a full reversal is me being nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:18 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date If you goal is to save money, just invite her over for sex. My personal goal is for her to demonstrate an understanding of equal responsibility so I know she a good candidate for motherhood If you can't get her to agree to a booty call then maybe just spend the money and focus on getting to know her. What? Why do I have to pay to get to know her? Why can't we equally pay for each other while we do that? "If you can't get her to agree to casual sex," maybe I don't really want casual sex? Revers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:15 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Yes, if she refuses to pay, and I pay for only my meal because I don't want to see her again, she has to pay for her own meal, wash dishes, or deal with the police Because you cannot pay for the food you just ate by ordering more food https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-9-episode-2-live-at-the-fillmore	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:08 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date I don't know that it is that much more common, but I can see pro-male arguments like this, why you wouldn't want it It's just, at the end of the day, if it gets your foot in the door and then you can "woo" her into an equal 50%ish contribution, yeah, I'm going with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:05 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date That's not strange at all, that's a pretty typical gender slavery cult	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:03 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date It's not about whether she thinks I'm trad, it's just that she can get the benefit of that arrangement without the detriment, so she's more inclined to let me get my foot in the door	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:02 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date What is your definition of that? My definition of it is I just won't date them again, and maybe I only pay for myself and she washes dishes if she genuinely can't pay for her meal. If she wants to make equality "negotiable" on the second date that's a "no," I am the prize	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 01:00 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date So you mean throw in a little "you pay me next time and we call it fair" as I pay on the first date, and then it's not a "demand?" And what's wrong with "demanding" 50%? The only thing that makes these "demands" rather than "requests" is that she's not getting a second date out of me if she declines; we're not talking about beating women into payment Or I guess she gets to explain to the cops why she dined and dashed after I pay for myself alone	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:58 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date t baffles me how so many of these scenarios can be addressed with a conversation. Yeah, like a conversation by me on the second date of "fuck you pay me"	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:55 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Yeah that's "how to use whichever system of dutch we use," not "which form of Dutch is the correct one"	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:54 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer How am I backing down from relationships? Other men are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwK5gfz7F1I I'm just enjoying my monopoly by being one of the brave souls willing to deal with the insanity Unless you meant other men aren't defending unreasonable women; only women and myself are? What?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:44 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, why did you read it wrong in the first place? Because you want it to be true? <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 12:42 AM
–	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date Most other red pill women, because there's kind of a "created sick but commanded to be well" thing they like to do with men	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 10:39 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Because you want the other person to like and enjoy sex with you, so that they might do it again, obviously Yeah of course, so why don't women give me a hand job when they finish first and just go to sleep? Because it's considered rape when men have that expectation, as you can see from the person in this comment section saying "so you're mad someone didn't suck you off?" and of course this is about a sex worker, who doesn’t actually want to have sex with you I said IN THE COMMENT YOU ARE REPLYI…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:27 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No, I didn't, I responded to one person by saying, "you think this is one of those 'my friend has this problem' situations?" and the next morning you had four of these comments in my inbox, so I'm thinking I gave you the idea The way "my friend has this problem" works is when someone's asking for advice, not when someone is issuing a "how things should work" argument, Fallacy of confusing "is" with "should"	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:24 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer And again, you can find sexual assault statistics that are broken down into the subcategory "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." By that logic, when a guy's a premature ejaculator, and she says, "eat box or finger or I'm moving on," that's considered rape. You can tell by someone else complaining, "You're mad she didn't suck you off?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:21 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer "The bags of sand people are referring to is from the movie "40 year old virgin" where an inexperienced man claims that women's breasts feel like bags of sand and everyone realises he's never touched one. " YEAH I KNOW THE REFERANCE, if you told some people men are raped by women, or how the forskin works, you'll get the same kind of treatment, so as far as I can tell, girls finishing too fast is just anothing thing that men are shamed into not talking about. In fact i saw somebody bully someone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:15 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Who said rich woman? Just a woman who can earn for my kids. When did I say I'm not attractive? You're confusing me with an incel, liek a real one. I have a few setbacks in terms of physical attractiveness, but overall I'm ok, and I've literally never complained about that. You're delusional if you think men will put up with a mom who expects her parents to take care of her kids, 44% of women report a partner breaking up with them over their feminist beliefs, most of them wanted their husbands to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:14 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So which is it? Am I a troll, or am I a real-life premature ejaculator asking about "my friends problem?" lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:10 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So when she finishes first, I get to say "hand job or blowjob, or it's over," and I'm not a rapist? Threatening to break up with someone if they don't fuck you is considered rape. You can go argue with the guy who says, "So you're mad she didn't suck you off" if you disagree	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:09 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer How it feels when your sex life is literally incredible to hundreds of male feminists and cat ladies https://np.reddit.com/r/shitpostbound/comments/1v6z8mi/ihavesex/	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:07 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yes, lol at the cat ladies and desperate male feminists in this comment section who think they figured out the one time "girls want sex over and over" is a more believable stereotype than "guy wants sex and girl doesn't" lol https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v4iqa8/comment/ozf5t6d/	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:05 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Projection. This thread is about calling out a double standard where it's considered a form of rape for a man to expect a woman to do stuff to him if she finishes first, but the gender opposite doesn't work. That is WOMEN's entitlement and lack of logic with flying colors. This comment section shows why MEN are backing down from relationships, because when women are irrational, 95% of both men and women will defend them	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:02 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, who's "them?" Can you and the 6 other people who upvoted this not read? I said IN THE COMMENT YOU ARE REPLYING TO this has happened with other girls and the camgirl was just one girl of many. Of course she's coming back because I'm paying her; what about the other ones? I'm just throwing in the camgirl to prove you can't chalk it up to a skill issue It doesn't matter; there's another guy below who did this trick by pretending it's only one cam girl, so I simply need to acknowledge that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:54 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:39 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:37 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, exactly. Women can go like three times in a row, whereas most guys need like a 20-minute break, so the men finishing first have an excuse, and the women have none. And then they fuck me again a few days later so it wasn't a fake orgasm	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:33 PM
–	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No, you shouldn't be required to contribute to something just because you benefit from it; you should be obligated to contribute if you cause a detriment to it	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 08:30 PM
4	Are SG school punishments sexist? There is a thread either here or in the global male association/pro male association a few weeks ago about how Singapore was openly imposing harsher punishments for men and boys	/r/MensRights	26/07/26 02:20 AM
6	How do you respond to "You're a feminist, yes?" I would say I'm a women's rights advocate, and that women's rights advocates are 1000s of years older than feminists	/r/MensRights	26/07/26 12:18 AM
0	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? Yeah, I've heard it's pleasurable but also that it stretches out your ass permanently, like worse than when girls have normal anal sex	/r/MensRights	25/07/26 08:59 AM
2	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? I don't want plastic in my ass, and honestly, it just seems like it would be easier for someone else to fully reach there than me I'm not worried about being gay if I'm openly bi. If I was interested in seriously dating trans women (because I have been with a few) I would let a real penis enter me. It's just, again, I am seeking ciswomen only because I want a long-term monogamous LTR with biological kids.	/r/MensRights	25/07/26 08:57 AM
2	Is it true that feminists have done more for men than MRAs? \Making rape gender neutral in US.* \ Successfully changing the legal definition of rape to include men as victims, instead of just women. ([article]* They changed the definition of rape so that people with mouths and anuses who could be penetrated would be counted, which includes some fringe of men. Feminists such as Mary Koss have deliberately stood in the way of getting "made to penetrate" treated as rape, which is like 48% of rapes. We can assume feminists just wanted female victims of mouth…	/r/MensRights	25/07/26 04:23 AM
0	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? reply notification off	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 09:27 AM
0	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? your comment is the most bot-like to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00dhw3m3Ts	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 09:21 AM
3	Teen who murdered boy while pregnant ‘boasting about being a man hater’ The Scotsman, I haven't heard of them since they were used as a source for the Wikipedia goatse article	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 03:50 AM
1	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? Yeah, I used to debate if I should get into anal stretching, like the goatse guy. There was a long press interview once with "son of goatse," another anal stretcher. He used to say to get started with candles. then move up to shampoo bottles I decided against it; I think stretching is actually a far greater long-term detriment than just standard anal	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 03:01 AM
4	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? Well, I am actually an anal virgin (and only seeking ciswomen for kids). I never want to be pegged, but I would ok with a woman using her hands, but she probably won't lol	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 02:37 AM
4	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? Yeah but it's harder for them, especially circumcised.	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 01:54 AM
3	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? (noticed that a mod marked this as NSFW for me, sorry I didn't do it if I was supposed to :3)	/r/MensRights	24/07/26 01:03 AM
8	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? The woman finishing first was true, the fake hypothetical "I shouldn't have to please my partner if I'm a male premature ejaculator" was taken seriously	/r/MensRights	23/07/26 10:47 PM
6	Is the idea of women finishing before men really an obscure one? Yeah, it sucks when guys are like that too, but it's not gendered. The social expectation as to when it's ok or not, or whether it even happens, is gendered	/r/MensRights	23/07/26 09:14 PM
–	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. And we aren't. We are saying men could be more efficient as house, thus it fucks up they claim they nessessarily doing less housewor Edit because im banned: im tired of your anecdotes. No offense but you are a zex worker or similar gfe type worker, yes? Those men soundblike a selected group, one that is more likely to have messy men in it The closest alternative is the also cherry picked "male living spaces" memes that show almost no messy nessessary, only simplicity	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 01:17 PM
-2	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No you said "she's already doing too much if your orgasming already," not "your already doing too much if she's orgasming already"	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 01:02 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah I said "unless you mean outerxourse," that's included. I do that, it's just the dirty talking that needs an ltr so I know what im doing Edit again because im banned: Source that includes fingering as a form of outercourse Wikipedia (Non-penetrative sex page) includes it. It defines non-penetrative sex/outercourse as activity that “usually does not include sexual penetration, but some forms, particularly when termed outercourse, include penetrative aspects, that may result from forms of fing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 01:00 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I dont have a problem with her orgasming, I have a problem with her not doing anything afterwards to get me off	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:59 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer You mean the part where I say it's not really a problem for me? At the start, and so this should all be assumed to be hypothetical?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:56 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah only one was a squirter so whatever "Your paying someone for a job" yes that's the point, she makes money if she keeps going but even she stopped Why do I care about this convo when a woman has been touching me for 15 minutes, this girls not done in 3 minutes, gtfo my eyeballs because this isn't kinky anymore	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:52 PM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer And I dont have to do anything if she finishes in a minute? Because the answer is i do, and it's "i have to fap." It's not the same with the genders reversed	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:47 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Your saying "sure thing" like it should just be obvious to everyone that I am a misogynist, but everyone has a bioligical urge to prefect women built in, so almost nobody anywhere is a true misogynist	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:44 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer You said "Women don’t suck you off" and then I said "I don't really like blowjobs" so I wasn't going off topic This isn't incoherent dude, your just being a dick	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:42 PM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Thank you for being the only person who can read, I would give you an award if I wasn't getting a handjob right now and could sort out my debit card problem Goodnight reddit yyyyyy	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:39 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I dont know why they dont want to NOT get started again, because if they get started again then they have to finish again. I like my refractory peroid where I can get distracted before I would be ready to go again, because otherwise I would always be fucking or fapping, or I would always have to walk away relied up but never finished.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:35 PM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer The camgirl tells what? Like why aren't these women leaving? Why do they take my dick 10 more times? And again i know squirtoling is mostly pee, I dont care, I'm into actual pee sometimes too, it's just well, it's also 10% not pee, that's the real magic :3 Edit because im banned: i said I was paying for ONE girl. The point is, she was being paid to stretch her session out and she ended it. And the bigger point was they do the same thing if I pay or if it's free. Always the dumbest people who pos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:30 PM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Right, and that not the problem, it's that she cums almost immediately, so i have to be lazy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:26 PM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I have no idea where the crashing our is in that post	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:25 PM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Not every time they orgasm, and squirting isn't quite a 1:1 with their orgasms of course, but I assume it's a reliable ish benchmark for an orgasm (and i know it's mostly pee and I do not give a fuck, you have a problen with nestle hordeing all the water, so do i) I'll be back in 8 hours because im in bed with someone whose reading this saying "not me" so let's trust but verfy	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:22 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer No we chatted for a while, she was supposed to help me with an AI project but that never materialized I mean we saw eachother later and had sexy times (just like most of these girls) so that doesn't sound like faking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:12 PM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Challenge 1: You're trying to say the person you're having sex with understands your body and orgasm cycle better than you do. If that's true, that's a you problem. Your partner can tell you what works for them. They cannot tell you exactly how close you are to orgasm. No, they can tell how close they are to orgasm, and they can use this cheap trick to drag and drop me around. Challenge 2: Yes, if your partner wants you to last longer, they should absolutely help accommodate that. That might…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:06 PM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer That doesn't explain the squirting, that doesn't explain why I have to be the one to break up with them (or why it ends much later), and it doesn't explain why a camgirl would finish before me (she would've made more money if she went again, especially if she got me to finish via her repeating :P)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:01 PM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Where is this "allusion"? Was it because I said "really"? Yeah, it happened once, and it wasn't an ongoing medical issue. There are two other guys who have said a few times that they came first when they were young; nobody is dogpiling them as problem cases. I think this is all a distraction so that nobody has to address the double standard.. or the actual arguments. The only other time it happened was when I was raped by a woman, but iIf this is about to become a discussion about how I wasn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:58 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer You said "Women don’t suck you off " and then I said "I don't really like blowjobs" so I wasn't going off topic	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:44 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer What going on here is bags of sand obvious. What? You're saying they are faking and then not wanting more because they think I suck? Because one of the women (not all of them, there were real women and real for free sex too) was, in fact, MRA camgirl Anna Cherry, she finished before me when we were listening to a F4F audio together She was getting paid by the minute, so she had every incentive to continue etc, after, but she didn't. I mean I guess you can't chalk that one up to my ability, but s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:21 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer It's not a tangent, you said "I care about sex, wait no I care about LTRs" and the rest of my post set up that response You said "Dude has never had sex before clearly," that was the "i care about sex" part, and then you said " I'm married with kids so I'm not interested in adding to my tally" was the "wait no I care about LTRs" part Again, tired of people pretending something is off topic when they don't understand it	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:15 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yes, I said it's not the premature ejaculator's job, not that I myself am a premature ejaculator. I am the opposite. I have been subject to women who finish early, and I'm expected to take care of my needs myself and not complain, so the same can be expected of women when men do finish early, especially because men have much stronger refractory peroids	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:13 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Well, that woman (Allison) actually self-identifies as a misogynist, and I don't do that, but I do self-identify as a rape apologist to try to match her awesome power, so whatever Keep thinking that the logical explanation is that everyone has a biological urge to protect women, but you can assume misogyny as a motive so wantonly, sure	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:09 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer "It's a you problem if me hypothetically finishing first would be a me problem, a "better" partner would only make it worse" - this is just a salad of words that don't make any sense. What do you mean? Me finishing first would be a "me problem." This whole discussion (in case you aren't paying attention) is about YOU finishing first and leaving ME hanging. That would be a YOU problem. Hence: I don't see why i should dance around guy who can't please me. This doesn't make sense because this whole…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 11:01 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Omg I need to become a sex slave again, not to prove you wrong that I can get puss, just because I need to escape all the "i care about sex, wait no I care about LTRs" bullshit people like you spew	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:56 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I like women, for 12 years now I have always followed female MRAs way more than any male MRAs or any male in the manosphere https://youtu.be/bg8ciNTox6g?t=4077 But if you're not one of the women who listens, then go off with your bad self	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:52 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So are you asserting that I'm lying when I say I'm not the one with the problem? You think this is one of those "my friend has this problem" type questions? Or have you again failed to read before firing off like 6 of these comments in one of those Reddit bullying drive-byes? Or have I wandered onto a forum with a bunch of Danica Patricks who are coping and projecting hard?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:49 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer What do you mean better? It's a you problem if me hypothetically finishing first would be a me problem, a "better" partner would only make it worse You mean now there's an onus on your partner to escalate you slowly? Where's the part where you do anything for anyone else other than "be a woman whose not fat or old"? I think people really hit a mental block where they can't imagine a girl finishing first, and you keep experiencing gynocentric backwash where you think I'm inferior in bed somehow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:45 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer The mere fact that any guy with this problem has to think and negotiate so much means sex isn't that enjoyable, not just because of PE but because the person himself isn't great to spend intimate time with. lol what? Is it really an offensive concept that if my gf tells me something turns her off a little, and something that turns her on, I should say the thing that turns her on when I'm about to finish and vice versa? Like I can tell three sentences to people, and they will say "too complicated…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:41 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Projection, I had the best sex of my life last week that awoke my submissive side, it just didn't turn into an LTR so I'm seeking a temporary arrangement until I get the 40,000 cold approaches needed to find my future wife I prob have a larger body count than you	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:33 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer "Women don’t suck you off "	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:30 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer You mean them and not me, right? Because this is like the number #1 case of people reading the title and not the text I've ever seen on Reddit, I will assume 90% of people on Reddit are like that from now on (explains alot)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:29 AM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yes, I understand why the first guy has a more legitimate complaint, because I at least can find partners in the first place and that's better than nothing If you mean to ask if I understand why incels are considered rapey, no, I do not, because incels have killed a few dozen people tops; feminists are responsible for millions dead via the tender years doctrine and lopsided domestic violence policy	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:28 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I don't see how they're rapey, because their biggest negative quality is that they are balckpill. I told them I was going to try to find what I was looking for in an LTR via mass cold approach, and they were talking about how I should be afraid of getting arrested So they aren't rapey, because they are convinced they are never going to have sex, hence not rapey :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:25 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I don't know what to tell you, man; that's a joke. Did I need to Google premature ejaculation? Because that's the most advanced term I used here, and I realized in the comment section I used the wrong term, because it's something different when women finish first. If I was googling scientific terms for women finishing first, I probably would have found one. I don't know why anyone should fucking listen to you when you have done nothing but bully, saying shit like "your dreamgirl will be too ugly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:23 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer WHO'S A PREMATURE EJACULATOR??? CAN NO ONE READ? I talking about my WOMEN finishing first This makes me think that we need to revamp the English language so that adding the word "no" to a sentence completely changes ALL of the other words, because it's not hard for people to misread with half a burrito in their mouth and spew the total OPPOSITE of reality Edit: the problem is that women get off and I din't. It's not a "my lobster is too buttery" problem unless you define sex as the woman getting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:17 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer If the woman is responsible for her own orgasm because men climax and pass out, then why bother being in a relationship, if she needs to take matters into her own hands? Because I'm also responsible for my own orgasms when women finish and pass out Men aren't responsible for providing. Only 16% female breadwinners and only 29% of couples in equal relationships while doing as little chores Yeah, you're not going to be the first person to address the half dozen statistical fallacies in the studies…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:14 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer lol, if you believe the orgasm gap statistics, it's statistically far more likely I am pissing off some cat ladies epically with this one lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:04 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer does not want to women to use him for his money LOL, You said that was a LOL moment, not me can’t last in bed and thinks that if he can’t control how fast he busts a nut No, read, it's these women who keep finishing before me; there just isn't a name for "premature orgasm" separate from "premature ejaculation" it’s the woman’s job to magically stop it, It's not magic; I'm telling you what works, and you won't listen. It's so hard for a man to find a woman who knows how to listen; that's probably…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 10:04 AM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, the first guy got a more legitimate complaint, but the second guy's problems are entertained more by society	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:59 AM
-2	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Oh god I don’t know what world you’re living in that not being able to last in bed is considered “too good” The world where I'm not the premature ejaculator (or premature orgasmer,) the women are. You just aren't paying attention. When she's a primie, it's my problem (people are already blaming me in the comments). If I were a primie, it would be ALSO be my problem, and then the bullying I would be expected to receive in forums like this over it would also be my problem Like, this is the bullyin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:58 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer The distribution of household labor should be equal (adjusted to working hours, possibly). No, I'm tired of this. If both partners work full time but one earns 10k and the other 90k, there needs to be something to balance it out even if you can't go full divison of labor there based on hours worked. Because then you have partners getting token jobs that don't contribute just to avoid housework and we flush the economic benefits of specialization Gary Becker outlined in his Theory of Marriage i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:49 AM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah dude, ask people what makes incel etc rapey; they'll literally just say "they want things." So wanting consensual sex = wanting to rape to most feminists, which is kinda why Feminism is like the Abrahamic faiths too (if you've only thought about sex, you commit the same sin)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:42 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Is her doing nothing afterwards also the norm?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:36 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Dude it’s not like you couldn’t orgasm and needed her to put in extra work to help with that. Yes, she can. She can do what female rapists do and thrust for power instead of sex, she can spit on me and whip me with a belt and that will make it happen sooner (or really, I'm learning I really excel at submission, because it actually just gives me more control over my sexual pacing overall, rather than just making me finish) We have the technology too: she could just smack your dick limp every 10se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:35 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Perhaps start your journey into attracting more compatible women by not referring to women (any women. Ever.) as “pleb girls” and “bitches” Why? Some women really love it when you trash talk other women and at least try to understand whether women’s aversion to you being a stay at home dad is about more than “wanting your money” Ok, I understand it as being about them wanting money, because of the women who will just come out and say it on Reddit and get 50 upvotes for it. (I love SAHDs conceptu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:28 AM
-4	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Hmm I guess I meant premature orgasm, but there is a proper female ejacu seperate from squirt And also trans girls are better lays than cis girls, I have zero complaints there, absolute heaven	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:25 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, my foreplay sucks; I just don't get foreplay in a casual encounter. That's an LTR thing. Like, it's not me being an asshole; I genuinely don't have any material for it if I don't know her well enough. Unless you just mean outercourse or making out etc Them being able to have multiple orgasms usually solves being premature if my fingers do the job before my dick even goes in. No, that's the pain in the ass part to me; she at least knows that I have a refractory period and she can call her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:21 AM
0	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I actually don't like blowjobs, honestly, they are just a warm up But I knew we'd get to a double standard where I'd be accused of rape-y shit no matter what my problem was	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:11 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation And look at all the skyscrapers and computer chips built by women Look at this woman who turned an Atari 800 computer from the 1980s into a laptop for zero profit, just because she felt like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toycgEcVNxI SO much laze by men, much mental gymnastics Edi: im not changing the subject. You made the subject "man are lazy" and I am disproving that Again, the fact is we have a half dozen statistical fallcaies associated with the data that "proves" men don't pull their w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 09:08 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer If you’re sleeping with women who don’t give you head and who, as you’ve stated in your comments, “want your money,” it sounds like you either (1) have terrible judgment in women on the front end Well, I get like 50 downvotes and women saying, "Why should she let you be a stay-at-home dad when she gets preg, and you don't? You need to bring somethiiiing financial to the table" getting 50 upvotes for that, the noraml thing is that bitches are supposed to want money from me or (2) are the kind of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:59 AM
–	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Way to blame your partner for not being able to last in bed 👏🏻 Yeah, forget these women lol; they should undergo genital mutilation like I did if they want to last Go cure a woman of vaginismus then talk. We have the technology: <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:53 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer I honestly can't explain the first half any more simply than I have She's demanding equality when the guy finishes first and has to muff dive; She's demanding inequality when she just wants to cuddle instead of helping me fix my clog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwK1spnyMU	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:37 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer That's because you are trying to lead with money 🤷‍♂️ And who's problem is that? How am I leading with money? I tell women I want to be a stay-at-home dad, and then they bitch that I don't want to provide them with money The men whom they enjoy having sex with are giving them good sex. You want those women more badly than they want you. And that's who's problem again? Theirs, because I usually leave them. I tell them I want to stay at home dad-ary; they say "no," and then they don't leave, I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:31 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer "Premature" = you are reasonably obligated to help your partner reach theirs, and if you don't make a serious attempt with an appropriate skill, you're a bad lover. Great, so where's all the blowjobs and handjobs from these women finishing first? Nowhere, so I'm movin on we are not done until we are both done. Anyone who can't do that whether it's selfishness or their own performance issues, is a bad lay. We could talk about tessellation. I always try to make her finish, but sometimes in the pro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:24 AM
-3	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Yeah, that's the problem, I need someone who fuck guud, and I'm surrounded by pleb women who don't know how to fuck guud but want my money anyway	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:21 AM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer If she doesn’t like your performance, she just doesn’t come back for more Yeah, and I can do that too, when, according to your second line, I'm doing too much for her lazy ass	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:18 AM
-1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Which one's my problem and which one's her problem???? As a man, every problem is our problem, is that right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:17 AM
-2	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer So whose problem is it when the girls lose their shit before I do? Let me guess, that's ALSO my problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:15 AM
1	CMV: It is not the premature ejaculator's job to solve the problem, it is the other partner's, because they are the ones who wants them to last longer Both partners don't want the relationship to be "transactional," but both partners want the other to pull their weight eh? Oldest trick in the book: when you get less, demand equality; when you have more, demand inequality. I bear witness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poFlE2qs-o0	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 08:13 AM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Do you think most stay-at-home tradwife lumps of crap, or women who just work a little at McDonald's, need all their education? Christ	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:47 AM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Please make an argument for why being a stay at home parent is not a vulnerability. With actual points Because it protects your custody in court Because alimony	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:46 AM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. But many women, including myself DO acknowledge that men face these things So why can’t you just acknowledge that childbirth and pregnancy are hard on women to experience? That’s literally all we’re asking for ok if that's ALL you're asking for, sure: pregnancy can be hard. Now do it, just like how your answer to men dying building cell phone towers is "do it anyway" Because this wasn't all you were asking for, you were asking for an allowance/nest egg system	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:41 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Is this about my foreskin? It's about my foreskin, isn't it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:33 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Men are just lazier than women. Lol, yeah men just lazied up all the skyscrapers and your home computer and all that shit	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:32 AM
–	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Men’s biggest problem in everything is their shame. I'm like the most shameless person on here ("earn money bitch" and talking about how I like to be spit on), and I get downvoted a majority of the time	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:11 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No, we presented a moral should of "men should only have to pay for the elaborateness they cause," and you responded, "you know you should clean up someone else's elaborateness if you know what's good for you, little man" Excuse me while i spend the next half hour with my phone and earbuds in bed	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:24 AM
–	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Okay then are men’s dwelling spaces messier than women’s? No https://youtu.be/ZZTGiotp_AM?t=13 There was one actually messy area, like the stains on the bed, and that was the first one she showed. Nothing else was messy, just simple enough that she was freaking out over them Edit because im banned: yes it's a reaction video and not a study, it beats NOTHING but the "trust me bro" of anecdotal evidence. Otherwise we have no data so far	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:20 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Ok, does the research you are presenting still have all the problems of the dozens of other housework studies? if they are testing for the reason behind it And they are doing that how?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:16 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Yeah when you can just insert a baby into your living room while you watch TV, you can cut down your leisure time in polls, derp	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:12 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation The woman above describes it as a power; I suggested it should be the cooks choice of taking it on themself or going 50/50 with it on those grounds	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:11 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Exactly, shopping is work but also a privilege, so the person who cooks should be able to choose between taking it all on or going 5050 with the shopping. THAT makes sense to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:09 AM
2	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation If men decide to live in a more decorated environment they should understand that there is more cleaning required. What if he doesn't decide anything? Why don't we try to sort out some kind of mutual 50/50 decision-making as to whether the house is complicated or simple? This is just like when I ask how it makes sense why people are telling me I should pay child support are assuming that I was never a stay-at-home father; they say "ok, I'm ok with somebody paying child support and somebody t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:07 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Who, me or the people responding to me? lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 02:24 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation the best way to keep the peace is to clean more than you personally would. Fallacy of responding to a moral argument with a practical argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 02:22 AM
2	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation You didn't, he did,	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 02:18 AM
–	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Sex differences in disgust sensitivity: Robust findings show women, on average, have higher disgust sensitivity (including contamination and pathogen-related disgust) than men. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1754073917709940 One-person households: Gender gaps in routine housework (cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc.) persist even among people living alone across multiple countries. The gap is typically smaller than in couples but still present, which is harder to attribute solely to partn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 02:10 AM
2	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation The bottom of your comment lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 02:02 AM
2	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation By your source that’s the choice of the woman By his comment, he said it was a choice; he said "she still ends up doing the majority of choices," like it's horrible to send women down into the choice mines and mine some choices	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 01:42 AM
1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care I will just say that I don't entirely understand how you expect people who don't know certain things to then be able to teach those things to kids. My parents are wonderful, intelligent, amazing people, but they never could have taught me the three other languages I know, nor could they have organized the theater club I participated in for years. Well, I don't actually think homeschooling really should be the default; I would like to see the default being, well, Zoom classes, but at 10 at a time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 12:38 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Contradicted by other Pew and US gov data, sure	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 11:01 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation What do you mean by "angry that she may want different things?" You save money and effort by sharing one meal What are you saying? I want benefits to the kids. I'm pissed that her flightyness is more important than the wholesomeness of trying to eat that same meal with mom and dad. I can understand her eating something separate for a medical reason, but otherwise OMG, this is why the family is collapsing; this is what people's idea of being a household unit looks like. No wonder half of the peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:48 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Contradicted by Pew data, US government data, and this isn't looking at reversed relationships at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:20 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Yeah yard work is every week, much more brutal	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:17 PM
1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care f your child is in the small group for whom homeschooling is better, great. The data shows that it is in fact the majority of kids who are better off homeschooled your rhetoric seems to coincide with the people who want to get rid of public education entirely, which is an opinion I cannot stand. Yes, I am an anarcho-capitalist who wants to privatize everything and abolish government; fuck bullies, fuck the lies government-chartered schools teach, and fuck everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:13 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Men say that they're happy to live in a dungeon so decorating isn't something men are being prevented from doing. So they shouldn't be doing the majority of the housework if they wanted a simpler setup. If a woman wants a more complex, elaborate setup than is needed for functionality, then she should be the one cleaning it They also say that they have no problem eating flavorless foods especially for bulking so I don't think that's something they have a particular opinon on in most cases. Same a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:45 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Studies have shown that eating dinner together as a family is a big predictor, and some biologists think it might have an evolutionary link to fire, etc I would assume that works better with as few roadblocks as possible, e.g., everyone eating all the same meal	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:42 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation I mean the problem was outlined for you, but you're right, if every stay-at-home dad refused to stay with a female breadwinner who was a greedy bitch things would change, so in that sense there is no problem"	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:29 PM
-1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No other possibility is presented. No, the possibility that all these housework statistics are bogus based on a half dozen statistical fallacies is also possible. Most women who stay home with the kids would like to receive financial compensation for their labor, but they take care of the kids and home because nobody else is going to What are you talking about? They receive the financial contribution of literally having the man pay for everything, “We have no idea how many of these men are deali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:24 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCoEM6aDpc	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:14 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Mowing the lawn isn’t gardening. It’s yard work. Oh God, that sounds like the most inane distinction ever Great, men get stuck with "yard work," and women get stuck with "gardening" where they get to do the fun parts? You just don’t have to do the daily chores when the occasional chores pop up. Yeah, like men shouldn't be required to be your maid every day when the woman does the occasional chore of giving birth a few times Whatever man	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:13 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation a 50 50 everything, I think that's the worst of the three, but it does have some arguments and solves some problems	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:04 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Same, my wife's going to the coal mines or I am filling papers	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:03 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Hmm, that's a good point, but those things aren't considered "man's work" just because they are infrequent. And gardening has always been stereotypically a woman’s hobby and chore. I mean, it seems so weird to me because it was my dad who used to grow tomatoes; mowing the lawn and wheedwhacking , etc is typically considered the mans job It sounds like, again, women get to grow flowers, and men get to do the shitwork of pulling weeds or the responsibility of growing food. But I have heard of this…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:58 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Doubtful. 35k is a livable wage especially if she's willing to go live with parents or shack up with someone else which most of us are and wouldn't be asked to be someone's miscellaneous utility tool. Hmm, I guess it would be an open question whether she's able to pay for all her own expenses (or a 50% share of expenses, etc.) at 35k and simply squirrel away less for the children. Still, it is an unequal contribution towards the children, so hmm. But lots of times we are talking about a woman to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:50 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation If you belive that the person cooking should have final say on food then men who are upset that women buy groceries should start cooking. Who are those men? I've never heard men complain about any of this. https://youtu.be/RZp6gky3FKQ?t=5884 I've heard women complain they "have" to do the grocery shopping when I'm pretty sure that most commuter male breadwinners might at least consider doing the shopping if they are the ones traveling anyway. The real answer is, she should have some say becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:23 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Cuz it's pretty rare not to have a main shopper and it's even more rare the main shopper is not the woman. Data? If the man is usually the one who commutes, it would make more sense to pick up stuff at further-away stores on the way home from work. He makes about 5k more. If he pitched do more cuz you owe me, I'd laugh my way home. Yeah, 5k is about small enough to keep the change in my books and call it equal. The average relationship involves the man earning 65k and the woman earning 35k on av…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:05 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Yeah, fine, if your scenario is being the earner and also taking care of things like cooking, etc then the guy kinda can't complain; those scenarios are deserved I just don't know how many of them are inequitable and how many of them just piss off the women, like one of the mods of Inkyverse is actually a woman who fell into being a breadwinner to a stay-at-home dad, but she doesn't like it and it kinda pisses her off if you ask her about it	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:46 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation I mean, sometimes it makes sense. I use foaming hand soap by mixing 1:5 soap : water like dial gold etc but you don't want to reuse a disposable foaming soap container over and over because the plastic will leach out, just like how you don't want to reuse plastic soda bottles for the same reason. So that requires a $7 foaming soap dispenser from Amazon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:35 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No, because that's "wives who earn almost all the income vs men who contribute," not "wives who earn almost all the income vs men who earn almost all of the income." I noticed this before, but it's just one of the weird little quirks of the data. It is interesting, but I would want to argue that it implies a perverse financial incentive, like the welfare trap, is hiding in there somewhere	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:25 PM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation The problem here is the leap from “make major financial decisions” to “shaft their finances” The leap other people are making, yes (as “men aren’t doing chores because they’re not being paid”) I mean the full answer is "men aren't able to steer the money towards their kids," that's the proper way you get hot for your breadwinner without it being gold-digging sugar mommy/daddy stuff or grimy, you say if you are monogamy-minded, this is about steering money toward your children in the end. But als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:20 PM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "The majority of household spending is on groceries, household items, clothing, etc. Traditionally, the woman is spending this because, well...I'm not actually sure. My husband hates shopping, so I can only guess most husbands hate these tasks. " No, it's because the person who cooks should have more say on the food, and the person who cleans should be able to determine the products used. It's not just a privilege that comes with the drawback either: they literally need to be able to buy eg be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:02 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation And does this research still have all the problems of the dozens of other housework studies? Self-reported data when we have dozens of biases, not attempting to account for anybody doing less housework because they are more efficient or because they count differently, or what? “Women may feel compelled to compensate for violating traditional gender roles as a breadwinner by redoubling their contributions at home,” she continues. Sounds like a fallacy of assumed motivations again, like when these…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:27 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Great, so now go tell the millions of stay-at-home moms to hold themselves to the same standards. Just allow some shoe to drop in terms of literal equality, please? As someone seeking stay-at-home fatherhood, I don't really want money for me, I want equal contributions to the children. And I don't feel I should pay the full 50% of expenses if I'm cooking, cleaning, and parenting. We can talk about coming close if I'm allowed to have a part-time job, but if she wants me on call 24/7, then she n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:16 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Why are you the fourth person to bail from data with an insistence that anecdotal evidence is better? There is research which shows that women are judged more harshly for a messy living space compared to men so maybe women just feel more pressure to be clean I would like to see this, but at the same time I would like to see how it reconciles with eg the very obvious observation that a woman with a trashy apartment can probably get some dick easier than a guy with a trashy apartment can get pussy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:08 PM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "It’s seriously going to consistently be okay for him to grab another beer and watch the game while she’s vacuuming, cleaning, cooking? That’s a feature of many houses?" It's seriously going to consistently ok for his wife to have church lady coffee talk with her friends on the couch while he changes tires, regrouts the floors, installs light switches and probably gets shafted doing the majority of the gardening? "I’ve seen men from very traditional cultures (where is not normal)" Where is it no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:02 PM
-1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No, now your the second one, the idea that women are better multitaskers than men has been debunked scientifically Men are fabulous multitaskers, the classic example is men listening to podcasts while playing a video game, or men doing manual labor with a radio in the background. Female working environments are more likely to require a singular focus	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:33 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "What breadwinners do" as in you agree it's possibility 2 because you want to put agencwy onto the breadwinners? This was also arguably about the men not being good enough fucking maids for these alley cats but if you insist, ok	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:31 AM
-4	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation That what I had assumed, the fact that men also do less housework when single could be because they are more efficient, but also because men insist on simpler designs and women insist on more elaborate ones, and female and male homemakers alike get to pick the interior's design as a perk to the drawback of being the one who has to deal with it Women build really elaborate pointless shit and then they clean more, men build simple shit and then clean less. If you look at the "female vtubers freaki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:28 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "Who pays for the household expenses in the "men share their spoils 50/50"? Because if it's women who pay for groceries etc, and man just spends his 50 on himself, then it's one thing. I just don't understand how it's possible in a family with kids. I meant the man alllows the women 50ish say over finacial decisions. " 1) prove that males mind that. that it's really an issue and not you just throwing tantrum " Um as a man seeking stay at home fatherhood i would mind that. Is this how you feel ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:24 AM
1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care Martin fieberts meta anylasis of 300 studies https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2663360/ **Murray Straus finding equal dv in the middle east: Straus, M. A. (2008). Dominance and symmetry in partner violence by male and female university students in 32 nations. Core findings on symmetry (across all 32 nations, including the Middle East/Asia subsample): - Almost one-third of both female and male students physically assaulted a dating partner in the previous 12 months. - Median perpetration r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 09:09 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Yeah that why Hannah wallen doesn't trust these stats, we have no idea if women are running a washing machine +watching tv and then men could be running a washing machine + vacuuming and then they log fewer hours etc because the research is so vauge	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 08:02 AM
1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation And it's easy to chalk up female breadwinners engaging in non consentual findom to "85% of the decisions" instead of "85% of the wealth," it still doesn't explain why men being better maids is backed up by looking at which gender of custodian and chefs dominate, and the idea that women would hog finacials is backed up by dozens of studies on hypergamy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:58 AM
-5	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation We have a half dozen statistical fallacies in the data points "proving" those ten hours that you refuse to address Great, it has nothing to do with asset division, we can say that your male maids are going on strike because witches are hogging 85% of the finacial decisions instead of 85% of the total wealth, and that's enough for the men to say "fuck you pay me" anyway	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:53 AM
0	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care No dude, child abuse can eat shit, and there is a 100% chance my child will be bullied in school. A private school you can pull your kid our of etc is better but still subject to the whims of the states Prussian model I understand theres a "recovering from the trauma of homeschool" community on reddit but their shit just isn't backed by data at the end of the day	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:50 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation No it didn't, I don't need a rehash of philosophy 101 when you don't seems to understand the difference between a premise and a conclusion yourself and you arent explaining why one data set is valid and the other isn't, so reply notificans off	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:47 AM
-1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "Then they gotta pay alimony to a guy who works 10 fewer hours per week than the average SAHM. " Data please, that adjusts for the half dozen statistical fallacies in the data I've seen so far " So not only do the women have to pay alimony like the average sole male breadwinner, " Only 15% of all divorces involve it, i want to to not exist without an explicit contract but otherwise fairs fair "Is there any situation where a man doesn't try to do the least amount of work and give himself the bett…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:44 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "That happens when you argue with uneducated men with the arrogance to think their opinions are just as good as research and statistics. " You mean how im bringing much more reliable research and statistics than the other side?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:31 AM
2	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation "It's a premise, not a point I'm arguing." Great, so i can ignore all if this as "not an argument" "Your not going to find any evidence that male nreadwinners do more or equal household chores to female breadwinners" 1 we already have in Australia and a few other places that does in fact show that 2 we have data that men do less housework when both are single so it's possible men log fewere hours because they are more efficient at it 3 all of this data is self reported when we have a half dozen …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:27 AM
0	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation I actually like you, because im usually the one telling other people that invoking a fallacy without explaing how it applies is itself shifting the burden of proof (unless it's a negative fallacy like argument from ignorance) Maybe it's not strictly a circular reasoning, but the point is you are just asserting possibility 1 with that line, without giving a reason, other than "the person who cooks totally doesn't need to have a say in the groceries, and the person who parents doesnt get to say ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 07:04 AM
–	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation " Female breadwinners do substantially more household chores than male breadwinners" Circular reasoning fallacy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:55 AM
-1	CMV: If it's true that men don't pull their weight in housework in reversed relationships, it's a "fuck you pay me" situation Schrodingers reversed relationship: if feminists are talking about relationships where the men don't do stay at home parent stuff, and mras are talking about realshionahips where female breadwinners don't provide, we are talking about female breadwinner stay at home dad realshionships that don't exist. Where are the reversed relationships? Why are the goalposts at a shitty relationship at the start, because it feels like a circular reasoning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 06:49 AM
1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care I thought you said 50 50 custody was the norm in Sweden?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:42 AM
0	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care You're wrong, it's at least not as good as free play (Grey) when it comes to socialization, and there are behavioral and hormonal drawbacks. Expensive daycare has some educational benefits but I don't care, if it was a choice between my child being abused vs being uneducated, im going with uneducated (as an ancap I want an unironic return of child labor, because if my fututre 11 year old got bullied at a job at McDonalds, the bully gets fired) So disgusting, incels are people who worst case scen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:40 AM
0	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care "I firmly believe fathers should be stay at home parents and mothers should be the ones bringing home the bread and bacon. " Yes I agree, I don't want the misogyny of asserting men are the better leaders and fighters and women are the better caregivers, I want the misogyny of saying women are worse caregivers too, so every parent should be stay at home dads and single dads, and we fill the top spots in government, buissness, stem fields, religious leadership, artists and philosophers with the me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 05:01 AM
1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care Or she can pound sand with 50% custody and no child support if the father leaves as is happening in the six states in the USA with 50 50 custody policies, instead of acting like the baby is her property just because she gets preg	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 04:50 AM
–	Men insist on being married and having children when they clearly do not have the means to. Yeah women insist on being married and having children while providing nothing finically, and it works for them. It doesn't work for men, as you're demonstrating	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 04:48 AM
-1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care Yeah why is that more important that increased cortisol levels and behavioural issues from your children? You can make a career change anytime and simply earn a little less Im not even happy with schools instead of homeschooling, or instead of letting them take jobs or learn eg accounting, plumbing at 14	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 04:18 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do When I downloaded one of the last few years NCIVIS ( I think 2023) and it was just listed as "--" and I asked allison and ahe said they fiddled with the instrument Maybe it was just that years, but if I'm wrong show me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 01:43 AM
-1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care So this was a fake source: "matin fiebert has a meta analysis of over 300 studies showing women agress more often in dv. We have evidence that women recieve greater severity, but we also have evidence that 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men so it is just a minority of men being that severe. And Murray Strauss found equal domestic violence in the middle east" Sounds like i have about a half dozen sources address your second claim and you are focusing on the one thing neither of us have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 01:40 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do I didn't cherry pick, I openly said womens is more severe, that's exactly what I was talking about. Just also that 70% of dv victims who never reciprocate are men, so again, on a individual basis, women are more agressive. You are the one cherry picking shamelessly, because I am looking at men being the bigger victim of homicide overall, and men being the bigger victim of agression in domestic violence, and you are specifically looking at the sub category of "people dead in domestic violence" an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 01:24 AM
-1	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care No they are not more likely to stay in abusive relationships, I can't find my sources on this right now but I know I've seen them, so maybe you would like to start. No, men are not more abusive, matin fiebert has a meta analysis of over 300 studies showing women agress more often in dv. We have evidence that women recieve greater severity, but we also have evidence that 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men so it is just a minority of men being that severe. On an individual basis, women a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 08:09 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Show me any other male reason, because we have doznes of categories of crimes women commit more that have nothing to do with strength, like the fact that women initate doneatic violence against men more than the reverse	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:14 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do You need a source that men are the genocided gender, look at "rbomi" wiki (reference book of mens issues) and you will see about 9 citations thst men are the primary victims of gender based genocide. You can look at almost any criminal stat anywhere and see a majority male victims, wheather it's walking down the street and being assaulted, or being murdered You can look up Martin fieberts meta analysis of 300 studies, prim reapers compilation of 50ish studies, the partner abuse state of knowledg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:11 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do And it's not a serious as violence against men, by women or men. Notice you haven't furnished any states You have to cherry pick certain categories of domestic and sexual violence to find anything women are bigger victims of then men, otherwise men are the genocided gender	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:03 PM
0	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care What are you talking about? If your talking about some fringe scenario where you are forced at literal gunpoint to marry someone, that is not the norm at all anywhere	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:01 PM
–	I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family. Money usually	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 02:25 PM
1	Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others. "Why should a partner expect money in exchange for housework? It's less fucked up to exchange money for personality!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 02:06 PM
–	I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family. When did women need to reproduce? Women would be entitled to finical provising from fathers, brothers, and they could still get jobs. A spinster was literally a womsn who spun cotton Thats the weird thing, people are saying "women dont need to have children to survive anymore" when they needed to have children less in the past	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 02:02 PM
–	I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family. I still dont know what a "dead beat dad" or "man" is, women's role is literally the who gets paid, and who didn't pay child support for thousands of years before tender years doctrine	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:47 PM
–	I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family. They contribute more than women, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:45 PM
–	I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family. Show men the mens rights groups trying to take away your rights?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:41 PM
1	Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others. So what did you have in mind? Kikimora craft (cooking cleaning parenting)? If you want him to earn it via "having a good personality" or something, that sounds like a worse precedent to set than him earning through all of the other stuff	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:37 PM
3	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care No people who earn 100k both throw the kids in daycare just to have equal relashonship and not take a break from their careers because they are too proud	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:32 PM
0	Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid care Bullshit. She has the choice of single mom-ing out, or a relashionship. Women don't feel "stuck" with men they have gotten knocked up by, men do feel they way with women they have impregged, because we have data men are more likely to stay in abusive relationships	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:27 PM
–	Men insist on being married and having children when they clearly do not have the means to. No, rates of father involvement increased in states that installed 50 50 custody policies, so that sounds like men want to be fathers why you let them, you just don't let them in 44 states Another red pill women indistinguishable from a blue pill, "like how they want puppies" disgusting	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:20 PM
–	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Huh? How is 300k years of males dying more an equality that feels like oppression? What are you saying?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:11 PM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Whatever, the actual issue (women raping men) has other explanations as i said, men being programmed to not hurt women, and the legal system bias	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 01:01 PM
0	Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others. What did you have in mind, did you want men to breastfeed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:57 PM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do "it's actually attempted murder, you FGM apologist, it is lethal sexual assualt"	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:20 PM
-1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do i did not consent, and it involved my penis i was raped	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:07 PM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do It destroys it, how? Lol, if a pedo played with your kids' foreskin, it would be rape; it's only gotten rapier when they chop it off	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:06 PM
-1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Yes, wouldn't you consider it pedo if someone only played with your child's foreskin? So cutting it off is even worse!	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:04 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do She's an "anarca" feminist who calls herself a red pill woman, lol it fits	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:02 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Women are more likely to use weapons and the element of surprise, which is more important. The entire thing that allowed humans to take over the planet wasn't a strength difference; we are fragile lumps of crap compared to other apes, lions, elephants, etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 12:01 PM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Thank you for serving as an example that women can be apologists of male victims	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:46 AM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do No, look up the data that one in 3 men are victims of baby knife rape worldwide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi6qI_h2LTk	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:38 AM
–	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) You mean the 300,000 years of our evolutionary history where males died more than females, eclipsing anything done by government or organized religion in the past 12,000 years? Yeah your right, they are different	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:28 AM
–	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) How is it hateful against women to say the system is biased against men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:26 AM
–	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) No my numbers are the same; today I just found studies that show tons of men seek primary custody and don't get it And women can adapt to working etc too	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:25 AM
–	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) and then tried to gotcha your way out of it by claiming your concerns about possible divorce are the same as women's concerns over pregnancy and child rearing When did I do that? I compared it to alimony. How is a woman putting custody in her favor by being the primary caregiver "not a foregone conclusion" and a man putting custody in her favor by being the primary caregiver "a foregone conclusion"? You guys just don't like men doing the exact same thing women always do, even when it makes more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:23 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Forced envelopment or fee rape	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 11:12 AM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do But you still brough up guards raping inmates	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 09:53 AM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Good, give me alimony if I don't have equal domestic violence services as a man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7aOnX7XeE	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 09:23 AM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do https://youtu.be/_KfCid3U-Q0?t=351	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 08:42 AM
-1	Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others. LOL, the mayor saying "Male loneliness is men's fault; eat shit, men" means male loneliness is being addressed by the government?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 08:03 AM
0	Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others. Average earnings contribution to the couple’s combined income: Men (husbands): ~65% Women (wives): ~35% (Medians: husbands $65,000 / wives $35,000) Men easily contribute more to relationships	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:28 AM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are they would have voted for the party pushing for a gender neutral draft. Who is that? The democrats might support it more but ultimatly no one political party supports it And we just had 4 years of Biden, 8 years of Obama, and 8 years of bill Clinton, and they didn't abolish the draft	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:14 AM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Like if he said u do the majority of the cooking and cleaning for all 3 of us and I do very little in proportion but in exchange you have access to my entire salary and life saving to do whatever you want then that's fine. That's a exchange. No it shouldn't be everything man; it can be lots of things, but everything is not reasonable, she simply instead entitled to that	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 07:13 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Lol, you say "op" so many times I feel like I'm talking to my fan club Again, your studies were worse than mine; you can bail with "we don't know" anytime you like; you can't bail with "the red pill is wronger on this issue" I think you think that kind of thing is sophistry because you don't understand conditional philosophy - on some level the strongest argument isn't "x is true." or "y is true," the strongest argument is "if x is true, then y is true." The strongest argument actually is "if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 03:45 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do earth, scroll please	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 10:34 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do omg <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 10:33 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do You haven't proven it true, and can't because it's not. You were the one who specifically claimed it happens to men more. Yeah, and I cited one study that shows greater female-on-male violence, and another that shows only 10% more male-on-female violence. Prisons as a tiebreaker easily prove that men are the majority of victims. We can talk about bacha bazi as a tiebreaker too, similar situations where boys are targeted but not girls, and I'm not sure war is entirely in your favor based on w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 10:30 PM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do and making the (false) claim that men are more frequently victims It's not a false claim if you scroll up or down and look at the data, and secondly, it's just dumb, man; imagine someone saying "asian victims of getting punched in the face in a bar" vs just "victims getting punched in the face in a bar." How about stop excusing bigotry, because when it comes to men, that is the exact place when even SJWs stop showing sympathy for victims	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 09:37 PM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Regardless though, this is still only applicable to that specific northeastern university. You can't really generalize it to all women and men. Yeah great, but 1 every piece of counterevidence is just as bad 2 we are talking about this instead of the CDC What do you mean? It's the same standard. I pointed out how it's specific to a particular university and an even more specific subgroup. I looked at the sample size. The study overall was bout a broader category than rape. I meant that in the fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 08:11 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Women and feminist are not the same thing, it's also mostly men Yeah, like how it was mostly men granting women the right to draft WE as in men and women could have stopped the draft but WE haven't. You have a turtle in your pocket named "men"? “But while 61% of male voters believe women should be required to register for the draft, only 38% of female voters agree. Most women (52%) oppose such a requirement, and 10% more are undecided.” Link to the poll: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 06:35 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Like if u got a roommate you made 50k roommate made 100k. Y'all split the rent evenly $500 each, but then roommate 2 also did more chores ? Y ? You're assuming separate finances and prenups; I'm assuming combined finances, or the male breadwinner allowing the maid 50% financial control informally because that is the majority, and because if there are kids it should turn into a common inheritance anyway I kind of like the angle you're stumbling on accidentally: "prenups and separate finances can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 06:18 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are What u were talking about in the first scenario the woman is getting nothing in exchange for her labor. When did I do that? I said he earns more and she doesn't, if you honestly thought that was THAT literal, like he should hacve a maid when he just earns more and always keeps separate finances, without any implication she or the child is benefiting via the earnings via rent or food etc, of course that's a joke, it's just (as so many feminists tell me with the genders reversed) he doesn't need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 06:06 PM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do But why do you want her to get custody if there was "other reasons" ? There was no stay at home demonstrated if it was a breakup before birth so that should always be a 50 50 custody situation, she should not be able to steal my baby, babynappers need prison	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:45 AM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Scroll please	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:41 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do No i am claiming that if we only look at heterosexual rape, we have basically the idea that women outside of prisons might only be a majority by 10% vs the criminal justice pretending that women are a majority by like 95% or similar It's just as easily that psychological biases msan that women could be raping men even more often than the reverse outside of prisons Of course once you factor in prisons it is definitely men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:41 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Were not talking about prison rape being underreported. We're talking about five studies, one if them showed slight more female on male than the other war around, the other four only showed women 10% tops more likey to be raped, totally outside of prisons. The idea is after we adjust those studies fir underreporting, we might have a majority male victims Scroll please im not linking it again	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:38 AM
0	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do I heard Adam corolla on loveline and he had a bunch of crazy vampire ladies on, and he said (wrongly) "this is why if you beat your children, make sure it's your daughter, because they only become vampire blood fetishists, if you beat your sons you get criminals etc" He later had Andy dick on and talked about he was crazy etc, not realizing that Andy dick is exactly what you get when a boy is a victim of being raped by a female babysitter 💀	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:05 AM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do What is you idea of "main victims of rape?" The real data shows women might be 10% ish bigger victims outside prison. There are some projections out there that argue we can assume a male majority of victims based on what we know about underreporting alone, and victims of women and not men. Prisons just makes it a majority that we absolutely have undeniable data for	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 04:59 AM
9	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do When women are the majority of perpetrators of female genital mutilation in most areas, most child murder including selective infanticide and selective abortions against girls, and slut shaming, and in some areas they enforce nuqiab/burkha more, what does that mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 04:56 AM
4	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do And bail with "I don't know," sure, "I know that I know nothing," not "men are rapists" We can say if they both have the same problems, you actually should toss both if you were being logically consistent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 04:20 AM
6	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do But then we have to bail with "we don't really know," not "studies with an even smaller sample size, the same selection bias, and that only look at men and never compare women, let alone two separate time periods, have the true answer" which is so much worse	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 04:15 AM
4	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do So do you believe it is rape by deception when a man conceives a child after he was promised stay-at-home fatherhood, and the woman steals majority custody by breaking up before the birth? (11%-22% of live births happen to couples who are broken up) I actually don't have an answer, but we have no idea if this "whatever they want to hear" is " I will marry you if you let me creampie that snatch" or if it was "you don't look fat in that." Gauge people's reaction to a man poking holes in a condom v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 04:10 AM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do That didn't just magically cut off in 1999, and you have nothing to support your hamstering that "this century" flipped some kind of statistical switch and made rape equal magically starting exactly in the year 2000. Again, we have reasons we use last year instead of lifetime 1: men dropping out of the population of people who can be polled via being homeless, drug-addicted, suicidal, and institutionalized, especially because they don't have equivalent grape services 2: consistent with research …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 03:46 AM
8	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do For starters, the reason we used the studies from 2010 and 2012-2013 is that they fiddled with the instruments. We went from 48% of rapes being "made to penetrate" in 2010, to "--" victims of made to penetrate in 2024." Maybe you would think that we would suddenly shoot from almost a perfect 50/50 to "--" in 15 years, but I don't think so, dude. Secondly, Allison's crown Jewel was arguing why we don't look at lifetime numbers instead of last year 15 years ago: Why Last-Year Numbers Are More Reli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 03:39 AM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do or scroll up and down lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 03:28 AM
5	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do A topic about men being raped isn't the time to bring up male victims, Yeah, that sounds about right. We can't talk about male victims in a topic about male victims, and we can't talk about male victims in a topic about female victims. Good observation I'm sorry, but you're in the wrong here if you think that's cool. I'm sorry, but I don't see people bringing up male victims in response to people talking about women being raped and the ways they are different. I see people responding to an imp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 03:16 AM
2	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do "but the fact that most men are heterosexual and closer in size and strength to other men surely has an impact with male perpetrators. With regard to female perpetrators, I don’t understand how there could be more female perpetrators and male victims than male perpetrators and female victims, because of the difference in strength' Because the strength difference is marginal, all humans have fragilities, and although fringe, it is possible to kill someone with one punch. And because men cannot fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 03:02 AM
1	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do Thank you for the data, but i hope you're only wielding that patriarchy in self-defense	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 02:50 AM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do data please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GqABNl26ZY	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 02:49 AM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are You can go sleep at home tonight if you can get up and walk away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs2vQkRGHRU	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 02:45 AM
6	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do So, 1, it's about SA rather than rape. SA is more broadly defined, but it also found twice as many women were victims than men. Not at all what you were suggesting that only 10% more women than men are raped. Yeah, did you look at the two data points harvested? At the top: Forced sexual intercourse (physical force used for vaginal/oral/anal penetration): Men 0.6%, Women 0.4% (men slightly higher) - Threatened sexual contact (threats of physical force): Men 0.6%, Women 0.5% (similar, men slightly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 02:41 AM
7	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do When women call this whataboutism, it's usually because you're bringing up male victims in response to women talking about women being raped, rather than starting a discussion about male victims on its own. No, it's not just women talking about how girls are raped; it's that they present it as an implication that it is a majority female or a female-only issue. There are differences between the typical male rape victim and female rape victim, but as long as they establish that implication, its re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 02:00 AM
4	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do At least in the US, it's 10 to 1 in the other direction "An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male," Source please https://revtrad-femalesv.tiiny.site/ Your analogy to police brutality is also really odd, because people who recognize racialized police brutality also recognize general police brutality. I really don't know what you're on about, here. I really don't know why you're breaking the analogy. Feminists who recognize w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 01:43 AM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do No, because I want a rape fantasy and not to be actually raped, please You're just here to make yourself into a counterexample? I have actually been raped by a ciswoman as a cisman; that's probably why femdom works on me	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 01:38 AM
17	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do 95% of men between 18-34 Table 2 breaks down things like: “Told her whatever she wanted to hear” (78%) Asking repeatedly, using friends to help, isolating her, etc. More serious items like physical restraint or drugs were much lower (~9–10%). Denied 32% of college age men Worse sample size than the one I presented at 86 mostly White college juniors The phrasing was “Force a woman to sexual intercourse,” which can have other meanings in BDSM and similar, and no female control was given so this is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 01:34 AM
3	Debate: Women engage in rape apologia of male victims more than men do That'll need a citation. These five studies indicate that women are only raped by men about 10% more (if they are raped more) compared to the reverse https://revtrad-femalesv.tiiny.site/ Then add prisons, and it's a majority In fact, you can ignore the first five studies and pretend the criminal justice statistics of like 90% men are totally correct and just add in prisons and get a male majority anyway. If it's, instead, a general discussion about rape, that would be different. You mean if ther…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 01:23 AM
0	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Joan Kennedy Taylor didn't organize against the draft because she was a feminist; she did it because she was a libertarian Other than that: feminists granted women the right to vote in every country in 150 years, except one. Coca-Cola is about 150 years old and is sold in every country except three. You guys could've stopped the draft, so you are not the greatest taste around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrYXvNSTcmQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 12:20 AM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are We have data that male breadwinners often share their spoils informally, 50%ish, with stay-at-home moms, but female breadwinners make 85% of the financial decisions. So maybe you'll get a male homemakers who act like female hommakers, when you have female breadwinners who act like male breadwinners? Maybe one half of the realshionsip will stop playing pretend when the other half does? And that would explain the domestic violence rates; it's not justifed but that shit would piss me off too https:…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 11:57 PM
–	Old people have no understanding of how dating works today Or because places like Iran have the largest number of women in STEM, because gender bending is a function of poverty, not wealth	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 11:17 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are No u used the word exchange. So there should be a exchange of labor for money in that case. No, if I "exchange" apples for a pack of cigarettes, there is no money involved (and no labor involved either in the exchange itself, strictly speaking) And she contributes labor to the household in the form of chores, and he contributes money Yeah, so she needs to contribute the labor then? This is "I thought we would pay them for the food we just ate with the food we just ordered" logic https://www.wcos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 10:05 PM
-1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are 16% of breadwinners are female, I wish it were more but lets be real And that "nobody discusses salaries on the first date" is such a crock, obviously the question is about relationships that go past the first date	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 07:12 PM
0	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Yeah again, unregulated surrogates only top out at 80k worldwide, and men contribute much more than that typically. I head a story the other day about a woman who earned 300k leaving a man who earned 200k because she wanted him to be able to enable her to quit working, like without her income dropping. That waaay beyond the scope of "make up for my preggary"	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 07:10 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are "Traditional men who make more and think it’s the woman’s job to keep house are more likely to intentionally leave messes." Citation needed, men do not intentionally make messes just for the wives to clean them up " and carry the baby," Yeah unregulated surrogates worldwide top out at 80k, and most men provide most children with more than that We can say that she bring an 80k contribution to the child, and thats all I should I have to bring to the table, and then we can be equal or figure some s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 06:52 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are She does mores of the chores for them both...he doesn't turn around and pay her 25k in exchange. No, because that money is supposed to go towards the kids; the question is, what does she contribute to "the household" broadly Cleaning up a mess, etc improves the household for the kids; contributing financially to what the kids stand to inherit helps them; what does she DO? I mean, if we are talking no kids, we still have the answer: he is giving her a place to stay but paying 100% of the rent. If…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 06:10 PM
0	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Has she tried doing something before demanding my fucking money? If not, she is in fact a bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hXaqEJh2T0	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:58 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Except it's not the same "amount" of work! It has a different value but I would never date someone like you. And I think most women wouldn't either Someone like me who? Someone who's willing to say, "Yeah, the person who isn't earning needs to houseslave-it-up, oh btw I want to be that houseslave"? I mean, you're right, most women don't like that answer either, but only because there is usually no right answer with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:53 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Yeah, what do you mean? Primary caregivers can still work part time	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 04:05 PM
2	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are If one partner earns 1 penny more, it's dumb to dump all of the housework onto the other person. If both people work the same hours, but one person earns like 50k more, you bet your ass the other person has to do something. It would be unreasonable at that point to ask the other person to do everything, but yeah, 40%-60% division of housework at the minimum, prob can go a bit higher	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 04:04 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Women absolutely count those things. Go to a woman (as a man anyway) and tell her you want to start a family with no job, and you expect her to pay for everything because she should "love" you that hard. Go look at what went on on the FDS subreddit. I just heard a story the other day about a woman who earned 300k, leaving a guy who only earned 200k because she wanted him to be able to allow her to not work, in her income bracket You are not HIRING a husband so that he has to work while you take …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 03:29 PM
1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are The first "son" was a metaphor for the husband There is no exact number to it; it's just "bitch do something," and the number can't be zero	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 03:20 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? No, you invoked the idea that femdoms are harassmed more than women who profess submissivemess, lets see YOUR data The pew research was online harassment, specifically death threats etc. I don't even know what you mean by sexual harassment. I didn't know if you meant "unsolicited dick pics from submissive dudes" or "toothless hillbillies threating to tie dominant women to the back of pickup trucks"	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 03:16 PM
2	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are I didn't just "say no"; I identified that all the data was self-reported when he had a half dozen psychological biases against men that could explain it, we have data that men still do less housework when both are single, potentially indicating that men are more efficient at it, and that your alternative take that "women are better multitaskers" was itself an outdated stereotype But yes, you can always talk about anecdotes when data doesn't back you up :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 03:13 PM
-1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are How many men intentionally are leaving messes? Yes the idea of revtrad is to in fact earn less and be the stay at home parent, i expect to do more of the cooking cleaning and parenting to a woman who earns more. I WANT to be an "uncle tom" or "union scab" type where I take on the stay at home parent/cook/cleaner role to troll feminists who think being a tradwife is like the most hardcore slavery The real inequality is that two breadwinners can eg equally earn 100k but then the homemakers have di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 03:05 PM
4	The feminism that appeals to men becomes mainstream. Yes, their sexuality is making these women insanely wealthy, there are women who become millionaires off of onlyfans	/r/MensRights	17/07/26 02:54 PM
3	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Yeah sounds like your insisting the researh that "proves" men don't pull their weight in housework when women earn more is totally valid when we debated for 30+ comments about the statistical fallacies behind them	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:53 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Harassed, and the point is that men are absolutely punished for being submissive to women. You just said they "open themselves up to harassment." Did you mean death threats etc, or did you mean they get flooded with messages from men who "love" them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:51 PM
-4	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are So what does this mean? Im not talking about turning a 1k income difference into a division of household labor, Im talking about if he earns 60k and she earns nothing, yeah bitch should clean up her "sons" messes, because most actual mothers only do that shit because they similarly expect their real sons to financially provide too	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:44 PM
5	The feminism that appeals to men becomes mainstream. What are you talking about, Andrea's feminism is winning if you look at sex work in general, and pornography is usually heavily socially shunned even if legal And what does porn and prostitution have to do with men's sexual power exactly? Lol	/r/MensRights	17/07/26 02:38 PM
-7	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are No but it is about exchanges that feel fair Like is it really a rocket science concept that you should either earns something comparable or be prepared to prace kikimora craft (cooking/cleaning/parenting)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:34 PM
-1	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Well I want to keep finances seperate im my future relationship, but im in the minority That also doesn't sort out if one person pays the rent, but ther other person lives with them and etc. That's "seprate finances" but it's not really fair until you pick up a broom or pot	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:32 PM
3	The Red Pill Will Never Have Good Prescriptions Because Its Historical Claims About Gender Are Wrong. Why are you telling the red pill this and not feminists? Feminists are the ones convinced women only started working in the 1970s thank to femininst	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 02:30 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? You really really do not want to be saying that you like submissive men as a woman with your name attached to it. The levels of harassment can be unreal. Data? Pew research show men are harssed more than women I don't recall women being forced to ride a donkey backwards 300 years ago when tehy were submissive to men	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 01:47 PM
-20	The utter revulsion women feel and openly express against the idea of coddling or nurturing their partners like a mother figure is conclusive proof that women do not actually love men for who they are Yeah because if you don't earn as much as him, you are actually not an equal partner	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 01:27 PM
18	Saw a comment claiming that rate of domestic violence in lesbian relationships is lower. How true is it? Iirc, if you correct for the fact that there are male perpetrators in the lesbian statistics, lesbians are still the most violent dv group	/r/MensRights	17/07/26 07:29 AM
1	If woman understand there own attraction and stuff, why then people do studies? "why then people do studies" <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 12:53 AM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No he's not, he's on fucking youtube, twitter, dailymotion, and substack right now How about we just look at the never-accused-of-being-a-nazi" sources he's using for his daycare claims: "Multiple studies showing that children's cortisol levels (a stress marker) often rise over the course of the day in center-based childcare but decline at home. This is a well-replicated finding (e.g., research involving Watamura and colleagues, Geoffroy et al., Vermeer et al., and others). Stronger effects note…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 01:27 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. lol when the most nazi-esq argument in this discussion was made by you when you said "if you don't like your office job just work it harder," like "work sets you free" and "you get what you deserve" lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLJjPVYscaw	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 01:08 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Td10o2jpk	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 01:01 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. HOLY SHIT EPIC EDIT, statistical fallacies and counter studies indicating men do just as much housework as women (not that they shouldn't do housework, strawman) are now racist nazi talking points, lol It's about time reverse traditionalism gets falsely accused of being nazi (because Wikipedia called some other guy a nazi and that's proof enough for you); it looks like we're becoming a real part of the manosphere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DwFOe935hY	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 12:36 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? If a teacher at your kids' school was into loli/shotacon, would you say "fantasy is one thing, reality is another" to that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 08:39 AM
3	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Then why do they want their men working instead of raising children? The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 08:30 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? 60% of men vs. ~47% of women have at least one fantasy where they dominate a partner; that's like half of you Like, every time I see a stat on women being pervy, it's always like half of you, and you have such squeaky clean reputations despite that	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 08:12 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Yeah, one of my fantasies involves a woman riding me so hard that she causes like an insanely loud pussyquake with shit falling off the walls etc. and I don't wanna be someone who just starfishes because they are lazy, it's just kinda needed for the rest of the fantasy to work Like, do that on my birthday and I'll put in effort into being raped (what?) every other time of the year	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 05:49 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? the likelihood of me having an orgasm is pretty small with most guys. You haven't found an LTR with a guy who rolls a "cunnilingus if I finish first" policy? Or would that not work because you view that as the guy being submissive? I never leave girls hanging; I would munch and finger for hours, because I know it is fucking torture to get closer but never finish. The only problem is that she might need like an hour, and by that point I need to take the trash out again after watching her reac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:44 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Or just "women dig men with scars so much, sometimes they will put them on you themselves" https://youtu.be/VGPW1y06buo?t=430	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:27 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I mean, female rapist fantasies are all over Gone Wild Audio, those girls have a better understanding of rape than most feminsts	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:12 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? without the rights I have now I wouldn’t be allowed to be as sexually free. And women's rights and feminism are two separate things I have my own bank account to buy my kink gear. Women only didn't have bank accounts, etc because men were required to financially provide for them. It's very likely your brother or father would be forced to pay for your dildos via a coal miner job The being called a misogynist is starting to work for me, is why I mentioned the retaliation thing earlier. It feels li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:00 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I don't think female rapist fantasy kink is a small number, and I'm sure there are a sizeable portion of women who are basically no limits whatsoever if they are the dom	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:37 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? It means this: You don’t want a woman who considers herself a feminist even if her reason for being a domme comes from the freedoms she perceives she’s been granted through feminism How much feminism was there in 1869 when "Venus in Furs" was written? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii_J3qJ0ba4 Also, people calling me a "misogynist" is very quickly starting to "work for me"; I noticed the other day that after getting way into submission, bullying comments from female snoos hit COMPLETELY diffe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:26 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? What if it's male breadwinner + female stay-at-home kikimora, but the man is submissive in the bedrooms? Because everybody thinks female breadwinners are supposed to be femdoms, but 1 hiring a paid submissive is waaay more stigmatized than paid dominants; many people consider it "real slavery." 2 The high-earning women I've known (bank executives who yelled at people all day) were UBER submissive in the bedroom, not just because of the erotic irony, but because they are genuinely exhausted from …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:48 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? it’s just [] giving men an excuse to beat up women. You mean women are cooking up excuses for men to beat them like they so often crave, sure, based on the fact that 90% of both the red and blue pill in this section are talking about how much women hate submissive men, and the success of 50 shades of grey etc? What U Crave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyKbqmDhYUw I heard there's a patriarchy in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, where men beat their wives until they get as wet, just thinking about that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:27 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Where's the room for two people respecting each other when one is drawing a connection between being "dominant in politics" and being dominant in the bedroom? That's a person who doesn't view it as play, or doesn't view it as sort of a "let's make sexual heroin for each other" session	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:53 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? You enjoy hating women and yelling at them because you like or want to be hated by woman. No? I hate myself, and I want the kind of dark submission that makes me feel like I am shedding my mortal coil and ascending into a higher level of consciousness It's again, sometimes the last thing I want to think about is my female rapist raping me, but other times it's "everyone in the world treats me like dirt, so yeah, the person I make love to might as well do the same..." You know who I really am b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:33 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? "You don’t want a woman who considers herself a feminist even if her reason for being a domme comes from the freedoms she perceives she’s been granted through feminism" I especially don't want a domme who draws a connection between what goes on in the bedroom -> politics, no. The motto of the antifeminist women's rights advocates sub is "the personal is not political" in big bold letters And I definitely don't want a woman who literally believes feminism was responsible for her freedom (rather t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:11 PM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I don't know why the fuck you think I should give a shit what you think when you openly started a witch hunt where you convinced 40+ people on Reddit that I intended to divorce and steal custody of my children and "give a middle finger to my wife's sacrifices" Like, you are pulling the "as a woman" card like I should give a shit what you think when you are one of the first people to make me understand why defemation is actually a criminal offence rather than civil in some countries, Like I kinda…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 06:56 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? You'd be telling her to do things she doesn't want to, which will be described as coercion in online spaces. What do you mean she "doesn't want to do them"? She can just say no if I reach a limit, and I won't force her to do anything. I'm just saying that would be the actual mechanics that she could get into or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 06:47 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? But women don't like the "safe" way of acting out a blood kink either, it's usually actalually men who want to do sexy things while she's on the rag and women who don't, like out of embarrassment etc. Strange	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 06:31 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Yeah it sounds like the bdsm profile i saw like 15 years ago where a woman said "if you've ever had anything in your ass, don't ever talk to me because you're not a real man" Feminsts: "Men enforce toxic masculinity" Red pill men: "No they don't, women do" Red pill women: "yeah, we do"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 06:12 PM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Oh, so what if it's not formal femdom, just a woman giving me a rape fantasy (with her as the rapist)? I guess that's not the same as formal femdom, but that's great; I'm not really looking for the cheesy femdom. I imagine when a female mra and a male mra hook up, the female mra giving the male one a rape fantasy would look like this, and a feminist would roll a weird formal femdom that's not really stable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:12 AM
2	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? From paying and providing resources Not happening, going to be a stay at home dad who only works part time for a hypogamous woman. I don't consider that part submissive (or blue pill at this point) I consider the stay-at-home parent dominant over the breadwinner will not be changing the tyre on a highway Yeah, but that's not my fucking job either; Triple A can handle it, I will pump my own gas that's it, I'm not a car guy Karen Starughn grew up doing this kind of Tim Allen shit btw, her family…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:09 AM
2	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I refuse to believe women do not get off being dominant, female rapists are things, female abusers are things, and women being women everywhere else are things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:04 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? You mean when 50 people on Reddit give me an armchair diagnosis, they all diagnose me with 50 different things? Because I was thinking the opposite: when over 100+ antifeminists, including expert psychologists, produce a diagnosis for not just the average feminist, but feminist ideology itself, they unanimously come back "borerline persoanlity disorder," I think the fact that we can make up our mind gives our diagnosis a bit more weight	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 10:02 AM
-2	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? You can't respect women as people and be a feminist I've had fantasies about deprogramming a feminist female breadwinner where I just tell her, "get a male feminist in here who pretends you only started working in the 1970s to fuck you one thrust for every year since 1970, and me as the non-feminist women's rights advocate gets tothurst for every year since women in ancient Rome controlled 30% of businesses 2000 years ago and see who gets you on the floor babaling incoherintly" And then I tell h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:53 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? OMG yes, Doctorandomercam is a MGTOW MRA who eventually wound up hooking up with a red pill gf, MRA women are the only women I feel safe with Again, they don't say it's about them gaining power if and when they dom	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:43 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? And also: The person who really goes out of their mind when they are kink-ifyed and experiences outer space levels of pleasure from it, is the person who belongs in therapy instead of a kink dynamic But you know who belongs in a kink dynamic? Feminist femdoms who openly view it as an attempt to gain power over men, oh yeah you'll get safe, sane, and consensual out of those girls for sure /s lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:16 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I do respect her as a person. If she's a feminist, I will leave her and find a woman who isn't a feminist. That's me holding her accountable for her choice to be a feminist and respecting her agency. I mean, you can just poll female mras if they are ever dominant or physically sadistic; Karen Straighn sometimes treats her husband to three ways with other girls, and she's very obv dominant towards those other girls at least; I think she fantasized on air a few times about getting aggressive towar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 09:06 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? I'm not into that man lol, I was sexually assaulted by kids attacking my balls on a school bus when I was 14, and CBT always just reminds me that, and I don't like the "formality" of spanking It's female rapists' fantasies that make me a bit nutty, and blades cutting me, cigarette butt out on me, and a few other things like that Like I said, it's nothing about either of ours social status or some sort of female empowerment; it's just "my orgasm is times 1000 if this shit goes down, especially wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:54 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Yeah, what's the body count on this dom if we are talking red pill here? lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:43 AM
-9	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? What about dominant masochism? You tell her to spit on you, hurt you, etc with direct, clear commands Because that actually describes women's typical masochism, to me. Like I said, I don't believe stay-at-home parents are submissive to breadwinners; I believe it's the other way around, so if you believe the red pill solution to LTRs is "trad :D" then you do believe men should be actually submissive to women in my book, not just token submission in sexuality alone According to the strongest r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:38 AM
-1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? "I’ve never met a femdom who wasn’t a massive feminist. " I believe Anna Cherry (porn star and camgirl MRA) does femdom, and probably makes 50x any pleb feminist femdom you know. I'm less into formal, cheesy femdom and just street female rapist and female domestic abuser fantasies; I just found out an author of an audio I was a fan of from years ago has a female rapist audio too, and she actually says "if you get me preg i will take you court and you will have to pay for the baby" like MRAs are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 08:28 AM
-1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? Yeah she will care when she leaves me And people do care if it's extreme enough (a woman cutting me might get mental health services or the law involved)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:58 AM
1	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? And I should take advice from a guy with a virgin flair why? I'm pretty sure most red pill dudes would be at least clever enough to say "Spin five plates, try to get your submissive shit out of your system with your worst one, then trash her and get into an ltr with one of the others"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:50 AM
0	Question for red pill: what of genuinely sexually submissive men? IIRC, the best research says men and women both prefer the submissive role, but women more so So yes and no "The mistake that submissive men often make is that they still sexually objectify dominant women, " Yeah, here we go: the lectures by feminist femdoms who complain about not being respected enough by men who (sometimes literally) beg to drink their urine, because there is just no winning with feminism 'and don’t consider that to be submissive is to give yourself up to someone else’s whims.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 07:43 AM
1	Women are to blame for doing more house work and not men Women don’t do it because of how it looks, but because there are real consequences if you don’t clean. Yeah, it's just "men are messy assholes" and then anecdotes about your dad instead of data Another award that needs this https://youtu.be/pdofyKSWEik?t=132	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 04:25 AM
1	What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud? Yeah, and all these "for fault" standards were harsher on men than women; the only time they weren't was because men owed alimony and women did not https://youtu.be/6WSn7vTSGZI?t=1064 Would you like five 60-year-old toothless women to check to see if you can get an erection when your wife claims sexual abandonment in a divorce? I'm pretty sure that where the Salem witch trials came from, five guys had that happen to them, then became the patriarchy and enacted psychotic schizo revenge	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 03:55 AM
-1	What should the punishment be for false accusations of paternity fraud? Well 50 50 custody has reduced rates of divorce. I have no idea what Ann Colter's idea of making divorce harder would look like, but I would suggest that to her, because it's also social progressivism, and it's always everybody's greatest troll when alabama, missori, and florida are like half the most progressive states in the biggest way possible (literally the structure of the family lol)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 03:44 AM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Why the fuck would wikipedia know anything about who is and isn't a nazi / white nationalist? You should have called him a "white nationalish" https://youtu.be/SR7jWitZNvI Lol at calling an anarchist any kind of nationalist	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/26 01:29 AM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Yeah it doesn't matter what i say with you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddy-mPR04Fw	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 11:09 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Are we comparing daycare kids to kids given proper free play, or to kids who were just raised in a bubble? And are we using anecdotal data, or real data https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpwMuTrQ364 And I don't know what you mean by "cordial soul ," I assume you mean "cortisol?" No, the experts criticizing daycare are not red pillers selling testosterone supplements to three-year-olds?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 10:21 PM
–	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Bad faith, reply notifications off	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 10:15 PM
–	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. "We have no data so I'm right!!!!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:48 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. If working an office job is “too much” for either then work it harder to get the promotion to get the raise to hire house cleaners. No, because daycare is bad for kids, and that's what two people equally working turns into. It increases cortisol levels and increases behavioral issues, and it doesn't teach as good socialization as free play. Any parent who thinks "muh career" or another parent "pulling their weight" is more important than avoiding chemical changes in children doesn't deserve to b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:45 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I'm assuming sarcasm based on the "without communicating with" part, which is a strawman. I have like 6 ish requirements. Women typically have more requirements than me, but they are not upfront about them My requirements are "lets me be a stay-at-home dad" and do some basic "don't be a child abuser" things like "don't circumcise"; show me a woman who wants to be a tradwife stay-at-home lump of shit, OR a woman who wants an equal relationship, who has fewer requirements than me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:27 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. And nobody ever actually addresses my arguments, like half a dozen biases in the studies showing men don't pull their weight in housework. They just say "mental illness" and then bail. I'm chalking it up to "the genius of the crowd" https://youtu.be/66cRAZroII0?t=1785	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:22 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Scroll down for sources	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:11 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Why are you the third person to bail from data with an insistence that anecdotal evidence is better?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:10 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No the argument is wlthat women are in fact more abusive than men depending on what we are looking at	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 09:08 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I mean the female breadwinners horde the wealth, not a horde of kikimora	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 08:13 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. So do I want to move to Australia because women will believe me that I can be a good housebitch, or do I want to stay in America so I have my monopoly and potentially a harem/spinnable plates of female breadwinners because im the only good one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 08:12 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Women's complaints (in the domestic space) aren't just about quality, but also quantity. So, even if it could be argued that the quality is always high in both professional and domestic spaces, it may not matter if there is a far lower level of contribution in domestic spaces to begin with. But again, we have data that men still do less housework when single too, and we have half a dozen biases in the stats, so we have no idea For example, most men may have a female therapist, only because there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:43 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. It's a deep, world wide feminized agenda to lie about what it is like to live with a man. Strawman, these are unconscious biases; a guy below furnished a study saying women misreport their number of hours depending on weather a man or a women are interviewing them. (Don't tell them about our annual meetings) You mean the NOW meeting where they shut down shared parenting? Because I intend to keep telling lots of people about those meetings	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:35 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No, slaves are people who have their children taken from them and are forced to give their earnings to someone else, get the questions right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:24 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. The kikimora is a folk monster that is usually a female housekeeper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUG2dIcWd4 I thought it would be funny if antifeminist tradwives and reversing husbands called themselves kikimoras, like how feminists call themselves witches. In fact, the Puyo Puyo series has a scene where their "witch" character and their "kikimora" character fight over a broom https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z9-fYA4VqYM https://youtu.be/LWwMqAg8JAY?t=342 The witcher series renders the kikimor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:20 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I have no idea; the best would be couples who basically let themselves be spied on (like a reality show, but with 1000+ couples and a way to comb through all the video data), and then we would still have observer bias to deal with. But we can also say we have data out of Australia that is also self-reported, etc, but contradicts this and shows men do more kikimora craft than their female breadwinners, finally, so who do we believe? Australian women happen to have the hottest accents to me; is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:07 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. If you look up men's living spaces meme, it's not that men are messier or dirtier, it's that they are simpler. They want a couch + TV being the entire apartment; maybe lots of guys have a futon, or no dining area separate from the TV, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZTGiotp_AM So men want a simpler design and then do less housework. Women want a more complex design, and then they do more housework. Actually sounds fair to me. Women are the pharaohs demanding male slaves build elaborate, co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:48 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. https://www.ons.gov.uk Self reported data https://eige.europa.eu Self reported data Weird that the majority of women in relationships all have the same lived experience No, that's exactly what I would expect from self-reported data	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:40 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Yeah the actual nannies in latvia are male, and you pay for male custodians, I said most pro nannies are female but you pay men to clean all the time	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:24 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Not doing half of the parenting is a reason to divorce. If I hook up with a career woman who lets me be a stay-at-home dad I am absolutely not dumping her for not doing half the parenting; I am buying that woman a "World's Greatest Mom" coffee mug and railing that bitch nightly like ketamine I will have to consult with the red pill council of doom as to how sexually submissive I can be without her losing respect for me, because it would be genuinely hard to not be submissive to a woman who l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:17 PM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Or those people should bow the fuck out if the subject matter is too complicated for them I don't use a "dumbed-down lay explanation" of how brain surgery works, and then bully brain surgeons ; I just say "I don't know" and back the fuck off	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:24 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Yes, I am the king https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-6-episode-1-chambraigne I'm so glad I resigned myself to only debating people on Reddit after smoking weed; there is no more rage anymore, just shit like this	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:20 PM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Maybe other people, but this post is "we actually are doing our chores, so haul ass to the coal mine ladies please"	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:04 PM
3	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. So you won't be one of the people accusing me of having an "imaginary girlfriend" for even believing in trying to have a plan/goal before I have a real relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:03 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No, but you misinterpreting "i want to be a stay-at-home dad to protect custody if my wife is abusive, otherwise, I will give her 50 50 custody off the books" as "he just wants to steal the baby to 'stick it to her'" and getting 40 people on the internet to believe it, was probably not intentional at all. I believe you probably were unintentionally evil like that, if such a thing is possible. I mean you honestly thought the person closer to having a mental disorder (having a "manic episode") was…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:00 PM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. You mean engaging in Socratic questioning? That is what being intentionally dumb looks like; thanks for self-reporting that you are being the other kind of dumb	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:52 PM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I'm not sure who does/doesn't do the grocery shopping is settled in trad or reversed trad. You could argue the person who cooks needs to be able to decide the products, and that they should have the privilege that comes with it too, but you can also say the breadwinner pays for them. You can show me where this is sorted in something like Gary Becker's theory of marriage or furnish some data	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:51 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No, I have no idea what you mean. Your initial post was you accusing me of saying it as far as I am concerned, regardless of whatever the male tampons who lurk on this sub are doing to the ratio and whatever totally-not-an-echochamber peanut gallery shit you guys are into	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:45 PM
3	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Men give women money all the time for just being women who exist and fuck them. Don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about, and those sentences were completely incoherent Male breadwinners have no problem bankrolling stay-at-home moms when they want that luxury; female breadwinners have such high standards that they make their own existence effectively impossible	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:36 PM
-2	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. So we're going with the worst answer possible https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:28 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. That doesn’t change the fact that women shouldn’t be picking up after a lazy partner And it doesn't change the fact that the data we have "proving" men don't pull their weight in housework is extremely dubious; it's all self-reported. We have women reporting more housework when other women interview them vs men, and we have other biases, and counter data Men allegedly being shitter maids than women doesn't change the fact that children should not have to put up with abusive mothers. The biggest …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:20 PM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. https://youtu.be/RZp6gky3FKQ?t=6303 Real Sources; Farnoosh Torabi / When She Makes More, UBS "Own Your Worth" reports, and others	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:09 PM
-5	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. "And you can stop with the ‘let’. " I mean, if you guys deleted the "let" from Trump saying "they let you grab them by the pussy" I guess it would make sense that you would delete my let too "It’s more like men don’t pay attention to the fact that the cleaning products need replacing, or what packed lunch things and snacks need picking up, when the kids are running short on something, clothes need replacing, shoes are getting too small, gifts for their friends when they’ve been invited to anothe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 04:02 PM
0	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Yeah I specifically said professional maids and nannies are mostly professional women	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 03:58 PM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Who is deciding the majority of Female genital mutilation, slut shaming (hint: women) and who controls 70%+ of consumer spending, and who is 55% of voters, and we have data that children learn sexist attitudes from mothers more than fathers? Like if you honestly think "men are killed more often, but other men are doing it" is a rebuttal to anything you are just projecting, feminists actually do want a man vs women war, where as MRAs want a male and female MRA vs male and female tradcon/feminist …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 03:55 PM
-3	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Women are mostly safer with men than men are with women Women agress more than men in domestic violence, mens is more severe but 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men, so it is actually just a miniority of men being that severe. The statement "women are majority perpetrators on an individual basis" is true. For rape, best data indicates men do it to women 10% more often at most. I would take that 10% if it meant that ky rape would have a better chance of beibg taken seriously by the crimi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 08:07 AM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Yeah im just saying, it's telling "the patriarchy" could finally create hypogamus women if they wanted to, but they refuse and genocide men instead	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 08:00 AM
-19	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Then stop hiring professional men to cook your meals and clean up after you and your kids, as you do, according to the statistics Ungrateful female breadwinners, male breadwinners let stay-at-home moms control 50%ish of the finances on average, female breadwinners to male kikimora horde 80%-90% of the wealth and use the men as playingthings	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:55 AM
-8	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. So if we reduced the female population, suddenly the women that are left over will start paying us? I mean, that is just indirect economic polyandry without the kin selection element (when 2 men share a woman, it's usually economic, and they are usually related, like two brothers who work a farm)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:46 AM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I saw data from Pew the other day that again showed men do less housework than women when they are single, so again, the possibility that men only log fewer hours because they are more efficient at housework returns, this time backed up by something better than the Clorox advertisement poll	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:41 AM
1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. I'm waiting for someone to express incredulity at the phrase "kikimora triforce" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjv1SbLdPCY	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:34 AM
2	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Thank you for the tip, we now have reason like number seven as to why these "women aren't getting the male maids they deserve" "studies" are totally bogus	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:31 AM
-1	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No, I am assuming that the purchases of people paying men to do this kikimora shit are 70% women. Do we need to establish whether it's a minority of women or a majority, or what are we looking for here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:30 AM
-4	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. Because they actually usually pay you, as indicated when I said they actually usually pay you Omg	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:26 AM
-3	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. No, because they're getting ripped off? Men are cheaper; they actually usually pay you (I won't, but most will)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:16 AM
-9	CMV: Women shouldn't complain that men don't pull their weight in cooking + cleaning + parenting based on dubious self-reported statistics when they are willing to pay men for it. "Also, household/consumer shopping is "women's work." When did I say that? I said women control 70%-80% of consumer spending If I said 55% of voters are women, is that me calling voting in a democracy "women's work"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 07:15 AM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Uh no, because the surrogate who only charges 80k also is risking all the same things. It is as close to equal as we can "For example, if you could spare your wife from suffering pelvic floor prolapse and perineal tears, would you do that for your child?" You mean if I could get mpreg myself and risk all of that shit for a child? I would do that, sure, which is why I'm a patriarchal shitload who expects her to be willing to sacrifice equally to my intent, as the only one who actually..... can "G…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 05:19 AM
64	A European Man Drought Has Women Hiring Stand-In Husbands for Everyday Chores So first they say men don't do enough housework (especially in "reversed" relationships) and now they say women are paying men to do housework because they have such uber housework skills Make it make sense!	/r/MensRights	14/07/26 03:24 AM
3	Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them. It kind of baffles me that so many blue pill people don't understand that dating apps are shit, when most of them (and likely lots of the red pill) believe that capitalist health care is a scam, because they believe it leads them to promote treatments instead of prevention. Dating apps have the same problem: they don't want you in a LTR because then you stop using the app. The op criticizing Hinge for being advertised as "an app you are supposed to delete" makes no sense; you should be criticizi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 03:13 AM
3	Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them. Because men are worth it too? We have no idea what women making men feel like their worth something looks like, because they never do it	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 03:03 AM
1	Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them. So when did women need men 250 years ago? During that time, men would be forced to provide for women, as in adult sisters (and women could STILL get pleb jobs as coal miners etc on top of it) When have men ever needed women according to this logic? Women were a formal expense then and they are an informal expense now... and a formal expense now usually too	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:52 AM
0	Dating would be alot easier for men when they notice who they’re trying to meet and where to find them. Women literally need men in order to breed, and single parenthood should never be the starting point	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:02 AM
6	Which country is fairest to men? Saudia Arabai, no, those places force men to provide financially for women (eg sisters) as the West did 250 years ago	/r/MensRights	11/07/26 08:41 PM
1	AskTRP Megathread If I could only read one, "the rational male," or "reignite?" Interested in cold approach -> LTR	/r/TheRedPill	11/07/26 05:52 AM
5	It's not just a "boy problem" Allison Tieman used to say that according to certain domestic violence stats, teenage girls are the most violent group of people period.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	11/07/26 03:50 AM
12	Which country is fairest to men? Yeah im moving to one of the six 50 50 custody states (Missori)	/r/MensRights	11/07/26 02:17 AM
4	What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy? No, they are not. If cooking, cleaning, and raising kids was the "submissive" role, more women would allow men to voluntarily take it on. They don't, they want workhorses	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:25 AM
2	What do you think about the patriarchy theory being used in therapy? And you are living up to the mott and bailey	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:23 AM
3	Boys are supposed to BECOME men What. Part. Don't. You. Understand. People want men to protect children. If someone breaks into a house with a stay at home mom, the onus is on her to protect the child. If someone breaks into a house with a stay at home dad, the onus is on him to protect the child. Thus, a stay-at-home dad is what you want if you want men to protect children. Like, I really don't know how you are NOT understanding at this point. The only thing I can think of is if you believe there should be an onus on men to p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:20 AM
-1	Boys are supposed to BECOME men Bruh, take the L and self-reporting of you viewing bad qualities as being "masculine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlvTsKYTeQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:16 AM
3	Boys are supposed to BECOME men People expect men to do the protecting in a relationship Thus, stay at home dads should be norm instead of stay at home moms, yes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:02 AM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Unregulated surrogates top out at 80k so her pregnancy is really just her 40k contribution to the child. I'm ok with being expected to cough up 40k for the child, like for a child's college fund, becauae the child should be entitled to an equal contribution from parents who want 50% access in a divorce (in one of the states with a 50 50 custody policy) I don't see why she's entitled to a damn thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:58 AM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. No, it was very possible for women to go their entire life without reading, it was not possible for men who needed to provide	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:49 AM
3	Boys are supposed to BECOME men What don't you understand?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:46 AM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Good, run from evil "baby napper" while men never run from women who ask for way more (putting alimony, custody, and asset division in their favor when the court is already biased for them) It will continue to make the statement it does about male and female nature	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:45 AM
1	Boys are supposed to BECOME men I'm pretty sure that the bible says women are supposed to farm. The bible literally talks about women buying and selling shit and working	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 08:42 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Only because men would die if they didn't know how to read EDIT: and because fathers, brothers, etc had to financially provide for women (eg sisters) back then	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 08:30 PM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. To morons on feminist Reddit! It doesn't sound like that to Men's Rights Reddit, where I get like 12 upvotes every comment I make saying "I want alimony in my favor in exchange for not having a DV and grape services"; it doesn't sound like that to dozens of people in real life, including my therapist. It doesn't sound like that to hot female MRAs like therapist honey badger The Prim Reaper, or hardcore MRA Allison Tieman, who said it might be necessary when we have data indicating 90% of new job…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 08:24 PM
1	Boys are supposed to BECOME men I like how half the posts on this sub have this image posted under them	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 08:01 PM
2	Boys are supposed to BECOME men Why aren't stay-at-home dads protectors? Women are safer just walking down the street (like to their jobs) compared with men, so why do you need a dainty lil woman to do your dirty work of slaughtering trespassing pedos for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:55 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Yeah or become one of the 30% of women in ancient Rome who ran businesses Or just be financially dependent on men, because fathers, brothers, etc had to financially provide for women (eg sisters) back then	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:45 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. I have no idea what you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RdWnhO0uXc	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:42 PM
2	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. If she does her housework and childrearing for 20 years and gets divorced she leaves with almost nothing. And no half marital assets isn't going to get her to retirement Why should she be entitled to retire after 20 years? "You can say that it was her choice to make herself vulnerable. And that's fine. But you could at least admit that the vulnerability itself is the sacrifice. Not just the cooking and cleaning" "And that vulnerability is a much bigger sacrifice than working." Then where are the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:34 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. "having to over communicate due to the man's upbringing since no one talk him how to regulate their own emotions properly and how to help others with their own emotions" "A problem with their upbringing," as in they grew up with a single mother, and fathers are among the most important influences in a child learning to regulate emotions? women tend to also do the bulk of emotional labor in relationships They really don't; men are the ones that can't get away with criticizing their partner's anyt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:22 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. No, the opposite, when monkeys do that, we don't do anything about it, when humans do that, we call it a problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:11 PM
34	Nora Fatehi thinks feminism 'f***** up our society completely', brainwashed men: I think women are nurturers Feminism invented the idea that women are better nurturerers 250 years ago with the tender years doctrine, we had a men as the default single parent for thousands of years before then, and men being the majority of nurses and schoolteachers too	/r/MensRights	10/07/26 07:01 PM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. No, where's the part where I actually say that it's my goal? Again appeal to majority fallacy, a majority of people support religion and atheists are a minority, and it doesn't prove anything. And pretending Reddit is the majority too, when IRL i never met a single person who supported abortion until birth, but I have found like 100 people on reddit who do indeed support it, so I need to imagine reddit doesn't represent reality for my own faith in humanity	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 06:43 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. When did i do that? Again, when a richer partner demands finaces be kept seperate via prenub, is thst "thinking of the poorer partners as the enemy" and planning to divorce? No, you simply say they want the emergency switch. So this is the same	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 06:39 PM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Well, there's nothing about my posts that suggests I plan on divorcing and stealing custody, but that doesn't stop you, so I assume we get to just make shit up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 05:57 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Yeah, I should get kids and then figure out how to protect them? Once again, fuck reddit for advice, because this is what 90% of the "advice" looks like. Like you don't even see how this is you being a bully; that's the crazy part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 05:55 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. And studues show 50 50 is best interest if none if the parents are neglectful or abusive So we should make the court operate under that assumption too	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 04:59 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. You want a pat on the back for what men do? No I want child custody Who is likely to end up in poverty if there is a divorce? Who was likely poorer before the marriage? So how about some credit for what women have to do? The reality is pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and infant care is unbelievably demanding. Surrogates top out at 80k outside the USA; the child is entitled to an equal 40k contribution from the father. The woman is not entitled to anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 04:07 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. "I will never understand why it is greed to want to keep money you have earned, and not greed to take money from others" - Thomas Sowell	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 04:03 PM
–	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. That explains why your wife puts up with the beatings; mine will leave even though I won't beat her because I anticipate earning less than her, and that's what a "bad" husband is to you and most other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:50 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. The breadwinner should automatically give the stay at home partner a part of their paycheck that only the sahp has access too. I'm not sure I would need this as someone seeking stay-at-home fatherhood; I would rather a simple expectation that I have a part-time job and an onus to have savings on me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:47 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. ou dont get to change terms. No, but I get to ask you what you meant when you used a term, and I get to claofy what I meant. You are planning on being a single dad, No, I'm not planning on being a single parent; I'm shooting for a lifelong partnership with monogamy. It's just that she could turn into an abuser. Again, I just told you that "I only want full custody if there's abuse," but it goes in one ear and out the other. while insulting single parents. I'm not insulting single parents who lea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:29 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Yes, women abuse children more than men do, including single mothers vs single fathers, so you can't blame it on time spent with the kid https://youtu.be/pDi4KxIR57I?t=17699 And women initiate domestic violence more, and 70% of DV victims who never hit back are men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:09 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. "You have a serious obsession with talking about wanting to be a SAHD for all the wrong reasons," What is the right reason vs the wrong reason? The right reason to me is that the courts are biased against men and their abused children. The #1 reason I can think of is that "the courts will shut down my custody if I am abusive; they will not shut down her custody if she is abusive." That is a FANTASTIC reason, like a better reason than "I just feel like being a dad" "and spamming it all over the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:03 PM
1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Yeah, after people lie and say I want to intentionally and deliberately divorce and steal the child, rather than I want the child to go to me if there's a divorce to compensate for a bias in the courts as much as possible. Like, there are chicks who literally stay with men who beat them, and you think a man who is literally taking steps to protect his kids from abusive women is going to have a hard time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 02:38 PM
2	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. It depends on what you mean by "single parent," most people's idea of a "single father" is not a father who sees his kids every other weekend and pays support to the other parent, most people would describe that as a "single mother family" Because it matters more what YOU mean when you use a word than what a word "objectively" means https://youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ and I don't "have it all planned out," i have requirements I'm going to screen for, just like when a woman wants an equal rel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 02:32 PM
-2	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. No, I said multiple times that I would go 50 50 off the books unless she was abusive. But I now plan to relocate to a 50 50 state as a sign of good faith to her, as much as me; she never has to worry about a single father she pays child support to, and I never have to worry about the courts throwing out my stay at home fatherhood because sometimes they randomly do that, too. Fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 06:54 AM
-4	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Alimony and child support, as well as asset division during divorce, offer protections to women who give up some of their chances for professional success, so that they still have the ability to leave their relationships without fearing for their financial future. Those things also do it for men, but men putting alimony, asset division, and custody in their favor by choosing stay-at-home fatherhood also compensates for biased courts and a lack of equivalent DV and grape services for them And t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 05:33 AM
1	Men, how often do you cry? My dad also passed of a heart attack when I was four too, small world	/r/MensRights	10/07/26 04:04 AM
1	The NEW dating etiquette (a guide for gents) How infeasible is it to start with a woman who insists on some of this shit on the first date, and then "convert" her to an equal contributor? Even women who eventually wind up the breadwinner usually start with a little bit of this crap.	/r/MensRights	10/07/26 04:02 AM
0	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? why do men struggle to merely acknowledge that women are the only ones that have to suffer the consequences of having a child Because we get things in the mail that say "child support due," and it changes based on our income, so it's not strictly a biological offset Why does your man owe you a damn thing for you getting preg? Unregulated surrogate mothers top out at 80k worldwide; if you consent to having a child 50%, I figure your contribution to each child is 40k for getting preg. I am ok with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:51 AM
1	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? The danger men face is from other men. Yeah, and? If the man is in more danger from other men vs a situation where he is in more danger from another woman, does that change the idea that he should be equally or more "scared"? . And when women go outside they risk being hurt by the men who are strangers but also by their date Yeah, the goalposts have to be "in the first few dates," or "specifically looking at rape or sexual violence' or "men's overall severity." If it's "who aggresses more in dom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:32 AM
1	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? Men don't usually risk their safety to go on a date when women definitely do We are talking about people going outside, yes? Men being outside on a date implies them literally walking down the street, where they are more likely to be assaulted than women. Unless you like to jump staright to going over to the guy's house	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 03:14 AM
1	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? Men are going to be victims of robbery much more by men than women. "Men are going to be victimized more, but by other men" is still "men are going to be victimized more"	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 02:12 AM
–	Why do some women find it so much more difficult to orgasm than others? Yeah I think very obviously, women generally have a smaller quantity of orgasms, but a greater quality. When women do cum (and they mostly do) it's always crazy shit like this	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 01:44 AM
–	Why do some women find it so much more difficult to orgasm than others? Why isn't it the common denominator when men take other men as partners?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 01:41 AM
2	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? So you did in fact mean female wife? But then you wouldn't be a career woman? Men and women are very different, that's the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 09:00 PM
1	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? We have 500+ studies (Martin Feibert's 300 studies, Prim Reapers' 50-paper mega upload, and the partners' abuse state-of-knowledge project (over 5,000 court cases examined), and the work of Murray Strauss, etc showing that women initiate domestic violence more. We do have evidence that men's violence is more severe, but we also have evidence that 70% of domestic violence victims who never hit back are men, so it really is just a small minority of men being THAT severe that it distorts things tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 08:13 PM
1	What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of? I’d be like 10x further in my career if I had another person dedicated to domesticity. Yeah, but then you call reverse traditionalism schizo :/ Like the whole problem with "red pill women" is that they end up just pushing the same stuff as feminism and traditionalists; they are just honest about it	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 07:49 PM
2	Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealistic they have no actual frame of reference for sex. Weren't you just in another thread talking about how women don't have orgasms as often as they are supposed to? lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 07:39 PM
-2	Why do women so drastically change their mind about marriage? So it's mothering when a couple follows Gary Becker's Theory of Marriage and engages in specialization? A male breadwinner is making the woman do all of the housework, and a male homemaker is making a woman do all of the financial provisioning, so we want equality even though it's the worst answer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 07:34 PM
-3	Why do women so drastically change their mind about marriage? Was sorting out the finances his job alone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 07:27 PM
–	CMV: On Reddit, posts asking for emotional support get significantly more replies when they appear to be from women than from men What are you talking about, if you go to most r4r subs, most f4m posts are literally "just friends only for a few hours" like women want entertainment	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 03:40 PM
–	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. Again, we only have on paper 5050 in six states, and NOW is continuing to oppose shared parenting, so there would be no bias if they weren't upholding something	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 02:53 PM
0	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful I dont know that we have one. The explanation is that fathers don't fight when they think they won't win, that is the self selecting group fallacy	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 02:50 PM
0	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Some way of showing that fathers are being given an equal 50% opportunity and turning it down. The closest we can come that I know of, is looking at the 6 states with 50 50 custody agreements. As far as I can tell, we have data indicating that divorces dropped in all of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:46 PM
0	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Self selecting group fallacy https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g/five_sources_on_how_fathers_get_custody_when_they/	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:42 PM
0	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Women claim men commit the majority of violent crimes and they list statistics to prove their assertion. They cite criminal justice statistics, which do not account for a bias against men. Men, as some sort of low-effort, tit-for-tat argument because they refuse to acknowledge statistics and lack insight and self-reflection, claim that women are just as violent but are unable to produce statistics or date to validate that claim, as women simply don't commit the same volume of crimes as men. Thos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:37 PM
1	There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't work Why are we talking about politics? That's not true at all, bro. There have been like 50+ male feminsts (particularly in the anti gamergate world) who have been busted for harassment	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:29 PM
2	There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't work Yeah, that's nothing compared to the millions dead via lopsided domestic violence policy and via the tender years doctrine, red pill people are teddy bears compared to feminists	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:25 PM
1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful "Numbnuts?" What do you mean? People need to have kids in order for the species to continue, and you're cool with the legal system being broken with regard to that? What do you want to do with the legal system that is more important?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:21 PM
1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Great, you're not presenting any data or even telling me the name of the country, so I don't see why I should care	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:19 PM
–	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. Yeah, laws change; a self-selecting group fallacy is the same. And what about that national organization for women opposing shared parenting in the first place? That's within the last 3 years. What are they upholding if there is no bias?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:19 PM
1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful So if it's just "don't have kids because it sucks," that's just antinatalism; you don't need to make it about gender. And marriage again is irrelevent What about "fix the legal system so that this doesn't happen?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:14 PM
1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful The default is 50/50 here Where? I'm only hearing rumors now that Sweden has a 50/50 custody presumption, but as far as I know, the only true 50/50 places are six states of the United States. I've dealt with the system a lot Yeah, and that has the potential to be biased as much as relevant experience	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:12 PM
1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Then don't get married Why is your answer "don't get married" vs "be a stay-at-home dad?" And how does that solve the exact same problem when the relationship has no marriage? I didn't actually mention marriage at all, and I specifically cite couples who were broken up in the live births example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:08 PM
-1	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful Men who fight for custody usually get some custody unless there are good reasons why they shouldn't get it. Yeah again. NOW opposes shared parenting; what are they upholding if there is no bias? EDIT: and the point is that men will value themselves based on what women want, not that they should	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:02 PM
-2	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful the only way someone doesn't get 50/50 is if there's serious abuse or neglect, actual charges, Source needed; most of the time, fathers don't get custody even if it's a 50/50 custody state	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 01:00 PM
–	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. The fallacy (on gathering the data) stops being relevant after 20 years? :/ And what about the other two? And what about that national organization for women opposing shared parenting in the first place? What are they upholding if there is no bias? How is there even a difference between a 50/50 custody state and one without it if there was no bias?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:58 PM
0	Media couldn’t have lied to you if you can’t name the media that you consumed. I don't know what OP is talking about, that shooter in Australia was pretty direct when he said "Spyro the dragon taught me ethno-nationalism"	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:47 PM
-4	After a lot of self-reflection, I realised that men create their own problems and blaming women is counterproductive and harmful "Men get screwed over by divorce", any man who marries a stay-at-home mom honestly deserves this. Never be the provider. You don't have to marry a stay-at-home mom, if it's an "equal" relationship, or one of the cases where 11%-22% of live births happen to a child whose parents are broken up, custody still often goes to the mother. It has to be that rare stay-at-home dad for custody to sometimes go to the father. nd I can tell you that it's men who are enabling this shit out of a misguided not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:37 PM
0	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. Men wanting custody is performative. If they did as much childcare as they claim they want to, they wouldn't have gotten divorced in the first place. 91% of custody arrangements are agreed upon between the parents, before a judge gets involved. These are rare, because men don't ask for custody. I gave you like half a dozen sources that completely contradicted this last time, and here you are, pretending I never posted anything and that men are just assholes who refuse custody. https://np.reddit.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:21 PM
1	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. No, they don't https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g/five_sources_on_how_fathers_get_custody_when_they/	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:14 PM
-1	Men should have primary custody of their kids by default. I don't have to google, I have a half dozen sources saying that's a simple self-selecting group fallacy https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g/five_sources_on_how_fathers_get_custody_when_they/	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/26 12:12 PM
1	Is marriage still worth it for men today, or is it too risky? I just want an answer as to whether marriage protects child custody Honey badgers say yes, a quick check with AI says yes, Paul Elam says no.	/r/MensRights	09/07/26 12:34 AM
1	If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choice Oh, I've been to bars, Irish dives, karaoke bars, arcade bars, bars that were celebrating a "sex night"; it doesn't work alone. Men look weird to women like that. That's where wingmen come from, but I'm not the wingman type. I think cold apprach - > take her to a weed bar, or a barcade https://youtu.be/-AqOZKoFwfc?t=186 (maybe not on the first date :P) or a bowling alley's bar, or a movie theater that sells alcohol, is just better; I don't want to have to fight over three drunk chicks with in a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 02:43 AM
0	If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choice If you “hate bars and the club” that’s literally a you problem Lol, most bars are about people trying to impress each other Are you presenting a false dichotomy of "bars or dating apps," because there's also "creeping girls out in public parks after reading a cold approach book" Or "taking a girl from a park to a bar," because it's classic advice that going to a bar alone is considered creepy to a lot of women, like creepier than cold approach at a park	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 02:15 AM
1	There’s nothing wrong with living for love. I don't know what you mean by "romance". Paul Elam (and "the Gold Pill") calls himself "anti-romance," but I think he's referring to "romantic chivalry," which began popping up in the Middle Ages and is about men worshipping women. But, at the same time, I don't have a problem with two-way "romance" and mutual exchange. I have Stephan Molyneux's (the original revtrad) Real Time Relationships on my reading list, and he seems to push the idea that you should have reasons to love someone, and tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 01:51 AM
–	why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with men Yeah which one? We're talking about male pedophilia and female pedophilia, and you are saying there's a difference	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 01:10 AM
–	why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with men Which pedopheilia is social conditioning? We have never produced hard evidence that anyone is "born with pedophilia"; people just think pedophilia is such an extreme crime that they demand pedophiles be sterilized just to be safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 09:35 PM
–	If You Struggle Online, Nightlife Will NOT Save You (bartender of 3 years) Isn't approaching women in bars/clubs without consent (i.e. 100% certainty of mutual interest) tantamount to assault these days? If you listen to incels, yes; if you listen to PUAs, absolutely not. We have polls indicating that 77% of women 18-30 wish they were cold-approached more often	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 09:33 PM
–	If You Struggle Online, Nightlife Will NOT Save You (bartender of 3 years) If you mean "go to bars," yeah, that's shit advice, because bars are where people go to impress. I was just thinking this morning about cold approach -> taking the girl out to a nearby cannabis lounge if she's into that; I think that would be better than an alcohol bar because you have less competition	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 09:30 PM
–	why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with men We don't really have evidence that men are more predatory towards children than women are. When it comes to male schoolteachers, we do indeed have evidence that males are bigger pedos, in fact disproportionate to their installation, and I have no trouble admitting that. BUT it's still closer than what the criminal justice system outlines: it's more likely 40%ish female teachers, and 60%ish male teachers; again, the criminal justice statistics that pretend it's like 90% men are a joke But we have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 09:25 PM
0	Study finds one third of Americans think that there are some situations where men are treated worse than women Playing the "who has it worse" game gets us no where Then tell feminists and tradcons to stop saying women have it worse Discussing a bias is not the same as just talking about how one gender "has it worse,"; it's asking people to address the bias You specifically asked me how one could advocate for both men's rights and women's rights No, I said you could via being a women's rights advocate and a men's rights advocate at the same time; I said I didn't understand how you could be a feminist an…	/r/MensRights	07/07/26 05:15 PM
0	Study finds one third of Americans think that there are some situations where men are treated worse than women What did I say about dismissing the concerns of other people just because you don't see it. I can give you dozens of sources indicating that we don't have a wage gap, I'm not "dismissing"; there is data https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1siurjn/today_we_should_all_talk_about_the_wage_gap_is/ On top of this your "source" is a decades-old quote from an oligarch lol I'll get the sources for the woman is wonderful effect lessening in countries where the quality is more equal. What did I say a…	/r/MensRights	07/07/26 04:04 PM
0	"Game" is overrated. I have never in 25 Years off my Life seen a ugly, low status Man "dominate" because he can yap the correct way. Have you seen a "high value" man who is rich, tall, and has attractive features bomb because he couldn't yap correctly? That's the real problem lol, it's just NEVER enough	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 08:44 AM
2	Study finds one third of Americans think that there are some situations where men are treated worse than women Second, stop treating gender equality like a zero-sum game. I'm not; I'm saying I can be a wra in addition to an mra. I don't think it possible to be a feminist and an mra. I can think about like a half dozen women's issues feminists almost never talk about, because I believe you can get a better understanding of women's issues if you understand men's, eg: - The law should be changed so that forcible scissoring is legally considered rape, which I am prompted to say because I already feel that wa…	/r/MensRights	07/07/26 08:28 AM
1	You shouldn't be angry at women Imagine if men had the reproductive and sexual power of women. What do you think they would do with it? Based on the fact that medieval queens were known to start more wars than male kings, I honestly have no idea bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 07:21 AM
3	Study finds one third of Americans think that there are some situations where men are treated worse than women So what does being a mra + wra look like then? Being a wra is supporting women's rights without believing in "patriarchy" etc The only "masculinism" i support is the anarcho masculinism subreddit, which basically does just use it as slang for mens rights anyway. My older brother used to talk about a "masculinism movement" from the early 90s that would complain about men being incompetent fools on tv who would "burn cereal," i don't take that seriously just like how i don't really take feminists …	/r/MensRights	07/07/26 07:15 AM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. No, I am happy that the child is away from the abusive mother playing a game with the custody, that father deserves to drill that stepmom,	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 11:07 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. when men rarely uphold their end of the agreement even under threat of garnished wages and jail? huh? She is offered majority custody, and she asks that man to take 50%, if he doesn't take the custody, yeah i guess she can keep the custody and then collect support She's taking a weapon away from the man because if she won't do everything to get custody he has no leverage. Without leverage a man has no control. What? She's giving him the weapon of custody after she turns it into a weapon like a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 11:05 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. How could you be a stay at home father with only half custody? The same way mothers can be stay at home mothers who get 50% custody: she has to get a job and perhaps get daycare/nannies involved good luck to any woman that makes the mistake of staying pregnant by you. lol all the hardcore career women I know are like the most submissive women ever, they get tired of all the responsibility, and they like to come home and get spit on and whipped with a belt	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 10:57 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) She can barely pick up a paper towel during that time either	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 10:00 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) I had an ex who complained she couldn't go to the coal mine 1/4 of the month; how does she unlearn that helplessness? I know "weaponized biology" probably sounds like something you want to accuse the manosphere of doing more often than feminists, but they really don't	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 09:32 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) Ok i will, enjoy your L Gajda et al. (2022) – Real classroom observations Researchers observed actual classrooms and found that when boys and girls showed identical disruptive behaviors, teachers directed more criticism and negative responses toward the boys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 09:17 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. And I'm so sick of people pulling "lowlings" with their "you're going off the rails" bullshit. In the 1920s former Harvard President Abbott Lawrence Lowell openly pushed for restricting Jewish enrollment at Harvard, justified the quota by stating: "Jews cheat." When someone challenged this prejudice by pointing out that Protestants cheat too, Lowell allegedly replied: "You're changing the subject. We are talking about Jews now." That's all I hear when I hear this shit. They just see an analogy a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 08:46 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. What fairness do you want? Men might only walk away more; women actively dump the kids in dumpsters more. Do you want me to spin both of those into their own topics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvxxdZpMFHg	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 08:33 PM
1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) Studies show spikes in cortisol related to clutter in the home, and women show higher spikes than men. Did this adjust for women whose job it was to take care of the house vs. those whose job it wasn't? Unless this is some weird argument about women being biologically hard-wired to clean??? That's one of those "more red pill than red pill" moments I guess 80% of those who have autoimmune diseases are women. I think the least we can expect from the "protectors and providers" is to try to help to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 06:40 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) Your comment to someone else didn't have any data	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 06:10 PM
0	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) Soruce, please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q8LO_rZk9o I'll tell you the same thing I told someone else: your "credentials" could just as much be a source of bias on the matter	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 06:07 PM
1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) a win to be confident that you gave up a debate What?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 06:04 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Lol, I'm only seeing one side because every other side is off topic from the social media meme Of course shit dads exist and good mom exist too	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:12 PM
1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) Evidence needed, being a stay-at-home dad takes a bigger life expectancy toll than a stay at home mom, and breadwinning men are committing suicide, including in Asian cultures where women have even stronger standards for workhorses. After the Dreamcast failed, one Sega ceo dumped his entire fortune into the company just to keep it alive. He then died like a year later without ever retiring. That's stress, bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:04 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) No we have evidence that teachers grade boys worse than girls for the same tests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3vOEgvcDE It's not boys' fault half their fathers are gone, and unisex schools were tailored toward girls in the 90s, and boys may learn better through tangible, physical education instead of blackboards Nothing female-psychology-focused about expecting them to socialize at 30 a pop, sure (/s)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:53 PM
1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) lol why can't all be crazy women be crazy like in the Judy Tenuta way Judy, at least, makes you want to stick it in her, not to seek her approval, just because you wanna see what would happen, like if there were fireworks, etc that would come out	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:48 PM
1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) I have no idea, that's why this question is a mindfuck to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:09 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I wonder how much your father's death stressed your mother out? Not reading 90% of the rest of this when you start with that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nus1xFSLhto You are very unfair in your approach to this problem. You do not see the issues parents can have when they are divorcing. I am being uber fair; she starts by saying "take full custody" as leverage; I am saying the man saying "ok" and then taking the custody is just protecting the child from the person using it as leverage Unless …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:09 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I don't think a stepmom is a babysitter. I have two older half-brothers whose mother died of a heroin overdose. My biological mom is their stepmom; it's not a problem as long as there is a50% custody arrangement for the biological parent, if possible	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:50 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Proving my point. Not only have you shown you don’t actually see custody as a real issue pertaining to the child I didn't mention custody in my last post at all you think it’s a great thing that a man basically just finds girlfriends to be a babysitter for him. I think it's a great thing that women have the choice, and I would rather people choose trad OR reverse trad than egalitarian In 1971, Gary Becker published "A Theory of Marriage" where he talks about "specialization theory" where yes, yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:28 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Oh you meant the stepmoms No they choose to do that Trad and reverse trad are "unequal" in that two breadwinners who both equally earn, e.g., 100k, could have different numbers of children, or similarly two homemakers who cook, clean, and parent the same number of kids, etc can have breadwinners with different salaries. It's not really an unfairness between the two partners; it's an unfairness between couples, and that's good, because then the couples compete. In an equal relationship, the two p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:32 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. LMAO. Show me any jurisdiction in the US that refuses to award a father some custody or visitation? One that gives her 100% over his protests? Every state except 6. My argument is always that NOW opposes shared parenting, so they wouldn't be upholding anything if there was no bias So you ready to give up all child support the second your rich doctor wife the second she divorces your stay at home dad ass? You have that kid 50/50 and you are fine having zero money from your much richer wife to hel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:26 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I don't think that; I want the mother in the coal mine while I raise the kids I just think the data that mom's new boyfriend types are worse than Dad's new girlfriend types might have an evolutionary basis	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:09 PM
-1	Weaponized Incompetence isn’t intentional. (In general) You mean people are mislabeling the incompetence as weaponized? This is why we need a "projected motivations fallacy" instead of just Hanlon's razor. I don't know how Hanlon's razor is supposed to handle "accidental weaponized incompetence"	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:05 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. And I didn't say they were free overall, just in one specific area You guys HAVE to strawman like that to make the argument work	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:56 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. ou're trying to explain that a man using his girlfriend as a babysitter is a great thing. No it's a woman forcing the man to take custody, and then the man saying "ok" is in fact a good thing Again, female MRAs say the real misogyny is in denying women's agency, and you are an example of it. You just started looking at a situation where the mother is doing something to a man, and you view irt the other way around for NO reason So can the girlfriend, Yeah I agree...?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:50 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. If I'm not gay, I can still have rage at people beating gay people	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:47 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah I've heard my older brother claim that my dad was a sperm donor to my mom because she qwas a witch It's just she used it as a circular reasoning fallacy then, ""shitty fathers are shitty fathers"	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:46 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. You went from Grok to thinking Wikipedia was any better? You need a better source that the distinction without a difference fallacy exists? https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Distinction-Without-a-Difference Enforceable court order vs. informal arrangement with no recourse if broken Uhh yeah, men should NOT be expected to put up with an informal arrangement instead of an enforceable order, but the fact that women CAN give 50% off the books custody but choose not to is exactly w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:41 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Except i dont think intentional single parenthood is more, gay parents are fine, but I dont WANT to raise the child in a bubble, I WANT it to be shunned to start as a single parent, and I just want single parenthood to exist as an emergency switch I've told witches who want a literal sperm donor and to hire a nanny the same thing, so yeah	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:26 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Why should I not figure out the risks etc of divorcing under certain circumstances etc while I AM single before I get invested with anyone? Yeah fuck those hundred adults, just like how 95% of the religious population actually IS wrong and the 5% of atheists are right. Like the fact that so many people want me to "fall in love" or get someone pregnant BEFORE sorting out how the courts work explains the fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce And I didn't make this personal, you made it persona…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:23 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah, her using the child as a weapon is not how life works, so fuck her	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:18 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Why? They might be more likely to leave me if they dont have to pay support if they do, derp Go tell the people who actually believe women have it worse than men in the middle east instead of us? Doctorrandomercam has actually told feminist men "why don't you go move over there?" Because it make sense for us to say it, it makes no sense for you to say it	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:17 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. The best interests of the children would be adoption over a single parent, and eliminating child support would finically incentivize adoption. The single parent who can afford to pay for the child themselves has demonstrated enough responsibility to be able to keep custody Tired of buzzwords and the fallacy of a presumed conclusion	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:13 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. And according to the data, they are taking it I mean they are using full custody as a weapon when maaybe 50% would be more defensible? Like the father would be able to handle that, and wouldn't be able to complain about unfairness? But they can't handle 100%, just the mother should have it if she willing to use it a weapon?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:03 PM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I have been in therapy for four months now, and I am going to switch soon. Great improvements so far, but my therapist is kind of dumb, and I need a better one I am going to bed; please do not mock me when I can't respond to it for 8 hours while I fall asleep to girlfriend ASMR, and I ignore the parts where she bakes me cookies instead of me baking them for her (i am not an incel and have gotten pussy etc., before, just not with girls as nice as the asmr girls)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:56 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. then why am i typing with one hand /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:49 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. maybe he has a deadbeat dad He died before I could form memories; he wasn't a deadbeat and a horrible mom Other people think so when I describe the weird shit she did to me when I was a kid, but I'm not personally invested in criticizing her So he blames her for his dad being absent instead of blaming the dad for being a deadbeat. We still haven't established what is wrong with being a "deadbeat"; the alternative is my mother being a "deadbeat" by mostly sitting on her ass and collecting checks …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:38 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Women in Arab countries have less rights. We are literally talking about rights they have that men do not, namely the right to be financially provisioned. They are owned. They are property. No, you can't kill them like how you can destroy property; you cant really sell or trade them, and you have to pay for them, and they can divorce YOU. And they can be lesbians where men are not allowed to be gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqLGgtjz_Q8	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:28 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. You presented so much data I am literally swimming in papers https://youtu.be/bqwVOP4CGsg?t=7	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 05:11 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. "you're wrong but I can't tell you how" Missouri (Presumption State) – Practical Differences in Outcomes Example 1: The burden of proof shifts — the parent who wants significantly less than equal time must prove why it is not in the child’s best interest. Link: St. Louis Divorce Law Blog on SB 35 (2024) Quote: “The burden of proof lies on the party opposing equal parenting time, who must present a preponderance of evidence (more likely than not) that such an arrangement is not in the child’s bes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:47 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. So how does it work? Is there ANY advantage to an on-paper 5050 vs a state like New York, or is it ONLY an on-paper thing? Am I wrong about the broader "well it's better than nothing" claim? And I don't see why a suggestion that I stop educating myself via youtube would be a compliment to you or Danika Patrick either	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:33 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. The sources I try to cite for professional work are things that have reputable backing without a huge bias on them. I don't recall you specifically citing a damn thing in this discussion at all In the Atari world, things were named things like "the STacy" after hot secretaries; this is even better because it's recognizing the hot brains too, like a little rottytops talking points that poison the well as a third party when good faith dialogue is trying to happen Sounds like what you just did: rep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 04:02 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUwY0nibdU	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:53 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Gee, thank you for your expert opinion in that respect. Please write them. Wow, way to take a compliment gracefully. I bet Danika Patrick wouldn't complain if you told her, "Women normally suck at being racecar drivers; that's why you're so special and awesome" And that's why she's in Sonic games and is in a position to buy a men's rights trust to fund dozens of hot female lawyers if she wanted to, and you are a single mra trolling pleb mras like me Female attorneys do not aim to be "hot" in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:51 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Pretty sure that the causation is in the vasopressin and oxytocin arguments and how they led to "operational thinking" vs "relational web thinking," the kind of stuff Allison is into now, and we can go deeper with the stuff Karen used to talk about linking the high abuse of moms-new-boyfriend types might be linked to evoultianary scraps where certain species of ape had males that commited competitive infanticde (and the bioligists backing her up) but yeah zero causation bro Even when most of thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:29 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yes, behold my radiance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-eBQ5lKKlo	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:21 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. It was also how places like the UK worked 350 years ago? And I don't want this system, I want 50 50 Derp	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 03:15 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. so much data	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:40 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Great, so then I can get laid as a bad father? (/s)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:40 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. You mean the person who refused to provide separate mother data vs separate father data? Or the person who cited "men have no access to children" as a stat that actually doesn't prove it's a choice on the men's part? Try again, I have given more reliable numbers than that	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:39 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. My source for both is being a former practitioner. Yeah I think that women might actually be better than men on average at* some* legal roles, among a few other thing so that would be a hot reverse traditionalist fanatsy: being a stay-at-home to a female breadwinner who is a literal mens rights activist, being hot in the courtrooms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-QVzfolwc Still, being inside the system can sometimes be as much of a bias as being outside of it Nevertheless, \I am glad* to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:36 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. think it's pure socialization that men write off as "well she's biologically meant to be a mother!" I mean, they literally are biologically meant to be a mother because that is the second goal of an organism, after survival She can be a working mother if that's what you mean, great, get into the coal mine And I refused to date any man with kids. Great, it's not in the statistics If you get to cite Cinderella and stuff, do I get to cite Bulma as a really dumb stepford wife who is an example that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 02:11 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Correct, I am part of the men's rights wing of al-Qaeda, and I am here to firebomb maternity wards to protest infant circumcision and the tender years doctrine, and I would like 2 meester cokes (/s) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgJ_zxYYTeA	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:57 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. That talk or email stat in intresting, but sometimes mothers police comunication and cry harassment etc, but that 27% doesn't say why or say that it's a choice on teh fathers part But less than a third of all non-custodial dads made any support payments. No fuck your support, that's not fatherhood, that is using the father as an atm. I want to see custody please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRdq2zqGxgY&list=PLgnjgPx0TdMeQFfLBwbnja4jDDIG0TyV7&index=2 The ATM is now closed If that were true, yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:55 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I can address the distinction by saying it doesn't present a difference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinction_without_a_difference The point is that they are both choices these women can choose whatever the fuck they want to do. Karen Starugh and the Dad Advocate voluntarily gave their ex-husbands 50% custody off the books. This is why we need 50/50 in every state. Because whoever knocks you up can just say "uhhh 50%" and doesn't have to deal with this incoherent minefield	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:48 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. No, the actual studies. Not some site that leads to sites that leads to snippets of paywalled studies of journals. Most are not paywalled. The Medium article is deliberately reproduced because it's known to be behind a paywall I'm sorry you have to pay, bro, but I think you might have to take the L; this is the best I can do to satisfy the burden of proof without committing copyright infringement. how the data shows what age the offender is, Do you have data that it's a significant diference? if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:41 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. we openly call it shilling, we don't care bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEZv-49dYlc	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:37 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Just typically they don’t want it Source, please; mind your self selecting group fallacies when you furnish it If you think only mothers weaponize child custody, boy do I have a bridge to sell you Source, please; I'm sure not every parent who does is a woman, but ask the parental alienation societies who can get away with it easier	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:36 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah, what does it mean that women typically get custody here, then? Derp It's like the argument "we want the right to be a father custodially, and the right to not be a father financially" is actually your idea of a paradox instead of two ideas that actually fit together when someone believes 50/50 custody should equal no child support	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:33 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. A lot of men don’t want to be fathers. Yeah, and I don't want "paper abortions"; I want "no child support unless you can prove a rape in court, or have a contract." It's simple: the woman who wants support has to want the government to perform an action. So yeah, the onus is on her to have a contract. I think you should need a contract for alimony too, but that really is JUST a question of what the default should be, with child support, there's no contract that a man can sign to get out of it ei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:31 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I'm sorry to hear that, but it's not backed up as the norm by data https://revtrad-biofathers.tiiny.site/ Don't scare away other mothers from involving good fathers into their kids lives, please	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:26 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I am wondering if she knows the father? Can you wonder while watching the video? So tell me why did you make this post about mothers, when there are obvious problems with father's not paying child support? Sounds like a whataboutism to me; those are men trying to exercise equal adoption rights to me, taking their cue from the millions of sexually liberated women pre tender years and today in the Middle East, who are not expected to pay support or take custody of anything https://np.reddit.com/r/…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 01:01 AM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. projection	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:57 AM
-3	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Dude, you just linked a study that wasn't even broken down by mothers or fathers, you actually don't knwo what your talking about	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:56 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Women don't pay child support at all in Islamic countries where they are still pre tender years, and the fathers still get the children in a divorce Liberate Western women from child support to stay at home dads, so they can be free like their arab sisters	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:53 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. The classic Nintendo 64 game Goldeneye 007? The one I linked to? And the one everybody is emulating on the Switch now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:51 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. you have a problem with links bro? https://youtu.be/8B28iy21rKI?t=7	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:50 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah i don't, it's fun, the prim reaper calls it "social media junk food" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2d0uk5Yjg This is why you're married and prob ten years younger than me, because most women love this kind of bullying	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:49 AM
-5	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah but she's more abusive than the biological father, so she still sucks for not involving him	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:46 AM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I just want to find a single single mom who is giving the biological father 50% custody without me asking first? Like I might get hard for one who does, but otherwise no	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:44 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. You couldn't take my kids away from me; I don't care. I'd crawl over broken glass to be with them. Yeah, if you're talking up to 50% or if you can prove abuse fine; I feel the same Ortherwise don't make me posses you https://youtu.be/ThwCBJyHKPM?t=32	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:42 AM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. https://revtrad-biofathers.tiiny.site/	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:39 AM
1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. It’s her giving up a formal protection. It's not a protection; it's a legal right to take more than 50% custody. If that's a "protection," so is not pressing charges against someone who beat you ou called bold two comments ago WHat? I never used the word bold, I talked about it as a good thing so I have no idea what you are saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:38 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. are more than happy to get custody of their kids because they will use her as a free nanny, Yeah, it's a "free nanny" for the father as much as it's a "free workhorse" for the stepmom Like you don't think there are reasons rooted in biology that women slip easier into a stepmom role than men slip into the stepdad role?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:32 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. It shows that single moms set the bar higher for whatever reason. That could be an explanation, but it's not a higher bar for child abuse, because moms' new boyfriend types are way more abusive than dads' new girlfriend types (but biological fathers are the least abusive)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:24 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. . Instead of doing all the work for his half, he splits that with his new partner and manages to get away with doing 25% of the childcare. New partner is already cooking and cleaning, what's one more meal? Data please, stepmoms are perfectly capable of dual income relationships with single fathers 91% of custody arrangements are agreed upon between the parents. The judge just approves it. Men don't have custody because they don't ask for it. Self-selecting group fallacy; they don't fight because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:22 AM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. “they could offer 50% off the books and don’t’ is an assertion What do you mean? It's like when someone has the option to press charges for a crime and declines; do you not know you can sometimes do that? Devil's advocate, the best argument I can come up with is that maybe they don't know they can do it, as it appears you don't seem aware that you can do it And “off the books” that’s bold of you. Tells me your character. Yes, as someone seeking stay-at-home fatherhood, I intended to not take mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:18 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah I mean she's punished automatically in the process of the father protecting the child by accepting the custody Like she starts by playing a game with the custody, the father protects the child, and then him pissing on her grave is just a bonus bro, calm down	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:03 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. You can ask the parental alienation societies what gender they think is more guilty?. I'm following like 5 of them on twitter	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/26 12:02 AM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. This dataset does not even compare mothers and fathers, and it does not adjust for a leverage sailecncy bias, as a literature review https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg_a843485e-07e9-4077-ad66-d4256eacea7e Try again; popcorn awarded under false pretenses. and sex is not as good as sweet corn	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:59 PM
–	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. https://youtu.be/a6UWO9QS5co?t=15	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:51 PM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I don't hate women, but if you believe society runs on misogyny, why aren't you making misogynistic arguments for women's rights? Why don't you make misogynistic arguments for ALL your pet politics? Capitalism, socialism etc? If everybody has a built-in "protect the women" bias, then women must REALLY be dropping the ball if I'm able to hate them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:51 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Notice how everything you wrote had nothing to do with the child at hand. No it did. If she's weaponizing custody, she doesn't deserve it because she might be a child abuser. SO it all works out. The dating stuff is just a bonus, because fuck those hags	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:47 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. In fact you only proved mothers sacrifice more than men. No, because they culd offer 50% custody off the books most of teh tijme and they don't offweer it, so it's a chloice to be a single mom Your “full custody bluffs” is you planning to weaponize custody to punish mother of your children. Yeah, it's not my full custody bluff; it's hers. She's saying "do x or you take full custody," and the father says "ok il take full custody" That sounds like the mother using custody as a weapon	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:45 PM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. LOL it's from goldeneye! That's a joke, this is like when the media thought real white supremacists were using the ok sign	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:43 PM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Why does Antia "post video games" when she makes a feminist frequency video? I hate Reddit man	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:41 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Then don't comment on a social media trend if you don' t want social media links? I could post as much of the YouTube transcript as will fit in here but I'm not bothering with your shitty attiute	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:39 PM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah whose talking about real life? This topic actually was social media and you derailed to my personal life	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:37 PM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. “Why dont women take men’s issues seriously?!” Because it’s the type of stuff you guys think are men’s issues. Yeah I think custody is like the #1 issue, derp It would just be easier to say you hate children. Evidence that a single father drilling a stepmom like a champ is a bad thing for the children needed, as long as they don't do it in front of them	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:36 PM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. I mean I really don't give a cshit how much harder it is for single mothers to parent without a co-parent, because they are mostly choosing it; they can give the father 50% off the books and choose not to 58% of single fathers don't find someone new, and they are still equal or better than the single mothers according to the data But here's the thing: I see very few sperm donors that are interested in 100% custody. Yeah, because it's a sperm donation and not someone in a relationship? We have is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:34 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah, how about some data instead of what reality "sounds like" to you? Edit: your flair is literally "companion for men"	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:24 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Why are you planning the children divorce and remarriage prospects of someone you have not met? I'm not, wtf? I'm talking about other people who really exist as a social media trend online but by God man at least have a first date before you plan your divorce and subsequent next marriage! I'm not planning on divorcing and remarrying! I just think it's a good idea to figure out my backup switch now! Because the alternative is me starting a relationship first and then figuring it out, and by then …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:23 PM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah the women in it claim they are using custody as leverage to get what they want; that's an open admission And you have to click the YouTube link I gave below because it's a social media trend; all the links are, of course, to social media if it's a social media trend! Unless you meant you're not clicking the links that clearly say "pew" and "researchgate" or thats bad faith	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:19 PM
-2	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XWjNxiYFZg	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:15 PM
-9	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. If you’re trying to get custody of your children in order to emotionally or financially punish their other parent Yeah fathers who take the bluff aren't doing that, it's just mothers who openly start by saying "i'm doing it as leverage" A father who takes the bluff is protecting his kids, and punishing the mother is just a fun side effect or (perhaps worse) because of a “social media challenge”, you need therapy, not custody Yeah I hope you are talking about the mothers there	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:13 PM
-1	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. It's a reference to the video game link I posted Are you one of those "I don't want misogyny in my YouTube algorithm" people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:58 PM
-7	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Yeah because she's openly admitting to using custody as leverage, so fuck her; she should be punished for that These men should try to sue for child support after too "Dames are like mustard: they taste great on a sandwich. But when you're not eating a sandwich... they just sit there in the fridge... on a shelf... in a jar... labeled... mustard." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXqV237u0U	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:47 PM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Sources need that fathers abuse court more than mothers, and he's not the one doing that in this social media trend,, the mothers say they are doing this as a "bluff" The father is just letting the mother shoot herself in the foot, because she does not deserve custody if she plays games with the custody and openly admits she wants to use it as leverage	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:44 PM
0	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. They are using custody as a weapon, and men are in fact calling the bluff according to the fact that single father families are growing	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:37 PM
-4	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. Data please? Take me to the mainfraime terminal https://youtu.be/vI3h21DdJRk?t=137	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:35 PM
-11	CMV: Every man's response to the "full custody bluff" social media challenge should be "she can try that," and it mostly already is. No, but it's just deserts for the mothers	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:29 PM
1	Unpopular opinion: I think asking for a live-in relationship before marriage is a red flag—for me Sure, as long as there is no abuse or cheating of course And men arguably more... depends on the circumstances; is it a 50 50 custody state, was he the primary caregiver etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:38 PM
1	Unpopular opinion: I think asking for a live-in relationship before marriage is a red flag—for me I don't agree with all your premises, but you are stumbling on the right conclusion: studies show that couples who do not cohabitate before marriage are less likely to divorce The first person who I heard talk about this was Stephan Molyneux, which is the other reason I consider him the first reverse traditionalist: the first goal of reverse traditionalism is female breadwinner + stay-at-home dad + men's rights activism, but the second goal is female breadwinner + stay-at-home dad + incorporatin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 05:13 PM
0	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) They didn't just conclude custody "matters," they said I plan TO divorce. I mean theres kind of a paradox: I do want to be in a 50/50 custody state AND be the primary caregiver/ stay at home dad, just like a condom + birth control pill to be extra safe in protecting my 50% custody. At the same time... if the courts DID work and gave me primary custody as a SAHD outside a 50/50 state (because sometimes they do, sometimes they don't), she would stand to lose, so let's minimize the roulette wheel a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 02:33 AM
1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) I have a note in my inbox that you sent another comment but it's not showing up EDIT: and yeah, custody matters to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 01:53 AM
-3	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) So, does someone who wants to move to a no-death penalty state want to do so because they want to slaughter people? Because my answer would be no; they just don't want their taxes going towards a death penalty, based on the fact that most people don't want to murder people, but they do not want their taxes going to stuff they oppose. Here's a pop flyball: what does it mean if I have a gf who does not want to move to these 7 50 50 states? Is that suspicious? Because ok, that's fine that she doesn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 01:10 AM
1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) 10% of parents are stay-at-home dads are choosing it, which is better odds than if you werer gay You can ask the original RevTrad (MRA + Stay at home dad) how small his pool was, 18 years later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oX86OsGIk0 I don't want to be the president; I want the greatest job in the world	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 01:00 AM
0	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) So when your accused of a murder for engaing in self defesne, you don't want your lawyer to be able to say "that's a projected motivations fallacy" and have a jury know what he means? Seems UBER necessary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 12:41 AM
-3	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) . If someone told me they were moving to a state because it doesn’t have the death penalty, I’d probably wonder why too. Yeah, but would you think they plan to murder someone? They didn't just "wonder why"; they accused me of having an "imaginary girlfriend" and said I shouldn't worry about that stuff until I find someone. As in "waiting until it's too late" (preg) or "wait until you waste your time on someone" or else I'm guilty of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CzLr1rGRWM You’re compar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 12:38 AM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) And once again, if there's no evidence, we have no idea if the mother or father is falsely accusing of abuse while being the abuser The best "the safety of the child at all costs" system when both are equally accused of abuse is to let the child be taken care of by a neutral third party until a proper trial can be held. NOT a system where the first person to accuse gets custody (because someone who is outgoing enough to abuse is also more likely to be the first to accuse) and NOT a system where …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 09:41 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) f you can’t seriously make 2 clicks to back up your own shite, why do you expect the rest of us to do so? (Unless you know it’s fake/lying/shite) Because I expect to read a much longer study anyway, nice projected motivations fallacy via an argument from ignorance fallacy though Mark B. Rosenthal, "Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias Committee of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court" (circa 1995–2005) Link: https://www.familytx.org/research/articles/SJC_G…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 08:14 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Naw, I'm thinking the opposite, this is practice for the insane bullshit I will have to put up with, and I'm getting stronger. Because some of the female snoos are more reasonable (and well, smarter, and less mean) than others so I'm starting to pick up on red flags Also, female snoos + a really insane, vicious comment bullying me and making shit up about what I've said can sometimes steal a fap out of me, not in a femdom way, just in a "crazy women are attractive" way, like "maybe she will calm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:48 PM
2	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Yeah, because this isn't a college-level course where you take off points because of poor grammar, we're supposed to have more freedom here Why are you getting owned by not-real sources? You're just flustering because you don't want to make two clicks and you have no argument. This is what a top 1% commentor looks like on this sub, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:44 PM
2	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/01/08/most-dads-say-they-spend-too-little-time-with-their-children-about-a-quarter-live-apart-from-them/ You're welcome to address the other 95% of my post instead of complaining about having to make two clicks while presenting NO sources of your own But I won't be around to see it, again replies off	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:41 PM
1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Men were offended again because women told men to pick the tree. You "heard" that? I "heard" men in mRA circles about 6 months ago saying, "Yeah, the trees are great." When men in the Congo are forced by the local warlords to penetrate trees with an acidic trap, that sounds like men choose the tree all the time, over being shot at least Why is choosing a relationship with a woman equivalent to being shot to most men? it’s backed up by the fact that women are still the primary parents Circular re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:07 PM
0	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) No, I'm tired of this now. If it's Reddit comments (literally my own comment to you below) that leads to real sources, you are the one engaging in bad faith and "reflecting" es you need to prove abuse, bit not at the expense of the child. Yeah, and shutting down 50/50 custody if we don't have abuse proven is against the best interests of the child. If you want a presumption, we should be giving the child to the father because he is statistically less abusive I don't know what you mean by "that p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:02 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Yeah, do you own leg work and link it for us all to see. Otherwise it’s just flat earth shite. No, I'm not bothering. If you seriously can't make two clicks, you weren't reading the half dozen studies anyway. Turning off reply notifications because of this childishness They are upholding because it’s a case by case bases. So you admit that it's not 50 50 Having a default presumption against shared parenting is NOT treating it on a case-by-case basis. Allegations are enough to protect the child N…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:56 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) links here https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uncq2u/comment/ovjvo03/ you do not prioritise the child’s safety because one parent might get offended. Yes and you need to prove abuse. Again, we have data that mothers are more abusive than fathers (including single mothers vs single fathers, so you can't blame it on more time spent with the child), so I am being cool by assuming the mother should get their goddamn 50% custody. And it's not "because the parent might get offended," i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:45 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) What single source? The badgers provided about a half dozen sources if you were willing to make two clicks, and the YouTube video by the dadvaocate cited two sources in the lower bar If you want the claim that now opposes shared parenting backed up: “A presumption that shared parenting is in the best interest of the child is pervasive. Parental rights seem to trump what is in the best interest of the child and is evident in many cases where parents raise allegations of abuse.” Newsletter of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:35 PM
2	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) I guess the topic was in absolute terms rather than relative ones, but I assume that was to be... assumed but whatever	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:20 PM
2	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Context matters. Power matters. History matters. They CAN matter, and they CAN have the potential to be totally irrelevent. When it comes to, e.g., hate crime laws, I don't want people looking at a white guy punching a black guy and saying "history matters, therefore hate crime." I want to hear "he didn't just punch a black guy, he used the n word while he did it, therefore hate crime" or "a white guy spilled a drink on him and a black guy spilled a drink on him and he only punched the black guy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:05 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Have an award for being the only sensible person in the first half Still, I'm pretty sure men have much worse projected onto them more often at the end of the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JDVh6HjbcQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:49 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) u/Ok-Ninja-8165 <image> Yeah you can't enforce 50 50 custody if men don't want it. The point is, allow 50 50 custody, and then we will know if men aren't taking it because they don't want to, or because they can't. This is how what I call "conveyor belt theory" works: if 90% of domestic violence victims were female (they are not) and you build a DV system that treated male and female victims the same, that system would simply help 90% female victims without trying. There is no reason to even i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:46 PM
0	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) "This is why women pick the bear" You aren't picking the bear unless you actually live in the woods (which mosly men do) instead of choosing to live in civilization with male firefighters, male cops, male grocery store clerks, male coworkers, and male Amazon delivery drivers, even if you DID want to sit in your house all day shitting yourself inside out The classic rebuttal is that "men pick the tree because the tree is actually a better listener," even though the tree has sex with dogs, what's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:24 PM
0	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) I’d love to actually see that thread because I remember it and didn’t see anybody criticise the op wanting to be a stay at home dad with 50/50 Yeah, they didn't have a problem with me seeking 50/50. That's why they had to invent an accusation that I was a baby napper, or that I would try to go single father instead of 50 50 if there were reasons other than abuse And I am talking about a totally different thread on an Ask{state name} subreddit, where I just causally mentioned I want to move to a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:17 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) Yeah, "I've heard" that other states have 50- 50 custody in practice, according to Custody X Change. The "self-selecting group fallacy" is not the "I've heard" part; it was something I figured out myself, this Custody X CHange service is for mothers who ARE willing to negotiate. (and the source wouldn't matter anyway because it's a reasoned logic claim and not a claim of empirical review. If Hitler said "accoridng to studies, 50% of homosexuals are...." you question the source because it's a que…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:09 PM
2	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) women are hypergamous, women only want money, I'm hopeful that I run into the 16% of hypogamous female breadwinners, but as far as the majority is concerned: "females valued ‘good financial prospect’ in a potential mate more highly than males did. The sole exception was the sample from Spain, which showed no significant sex difference." David Buss’s “Sex differences in human mate preferences: Evolutionary hypotheses tested in 37 cultures” https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/10/buss-1989-s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 05:02 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) How is it a "made-up fallacy?" It's literally invoking a fallacy onto another fallacy. You can delineate your own fallacies, bro, because they are reasoned logic claims and not claims of empirical review; here, Doctorradnomercam is doing it: https://youtu.be/-JUK7vWVLVo?t=1882	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:34 PM
-4	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) I guess the second, but people will probably be pushing the first alone more, because it gives them a kick to accuse me of baby-napping The world is so fucked up man	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:32 PM
-1	Debate: women are allowed to distrust men, men are not allowed to distrust women (repost as I dodn't partipate within three hours) I posed this before I went to sleep, and it was removed for me not participating within the first three hours, but I had some comments waiting for me in the morning. I will address them now and here since they are very common arguments so I can probably just copy and paste them again below TermAggravating8043: "Let’s all remember the default everywhere is 50/50, judges for by what’s best for the child." No it's not; there are 7 states with 50 50. I've heard data that about half of states have 50…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 04:04 PM
–	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" So what would you like honey? I think meji choco baby would integrate the best because of the size of the pieces, but we can go with what ever you want, meji coffee beat, m&ms with or without peanuts, meji makes strawberry marble candies (the name for m&ms and reese's pieces pieces type stuff,) any kind of nut you want, whatever You say you have too much to do all day but the you have the time to make five comments like this while I sleep	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 03:03 PM
–	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "We" are the men's rights movement Again, this is an interview with Warren Farrell, talking about how he was head of NOW in the 1970s and had to leave. You know sometimes people upload entire college lectures onto YouTube? Or youtubers will back up what they have to say with sources in the lowbar?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 02:52 PM
–	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" If she needs me to, yes she will prefer me taking care of her instead of going into a home If it can be avoided, yes, she wants to work until she dies. Like i say it probably won't come to me moving back in with her, and if it did, she wouldn't be expected to take care of my kids or me beyond just giving us a roof over our heads and running water + electricity. We can talk about a "paying half of the property tax + utility bills" system where I do pul my weight, just that I can owe her, so there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 02:49 PM
–	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" We can literally convert one of the boards of the National Organization for Women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbS3PvLoS5o	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:43 AM
–	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Why would she take care of the kids? I would be there. Have you asked my mom if she wants me to take care of her AND the kids when she's 90 and needs help eating applesauce? Or is this your boyfriend and grampa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAuy4UmWaZs	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 06:39 AM
-1	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. Yeah I said the sample size isn't great, but show me a feminsts study on how many women hate it when stranger talk to them in public, or any other study with a bigger size? They also don’t ask if the person doing the approaching needs to be considered physically attractive. Yeah, that's not how it works; attraction is subjective; you're either open for business or you're not. That sounds kind of like being raped "at first" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS9UWeoq7WA	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:53 AM
1	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. Well it's not a huge samel size but: <image> These stats are making me HUNGRY, like I want to become a wolf and pounce and eat bloody, meaty carcass (and I'm a vegetarian)	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:22 AM
1	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. Because a lot of men (probably the majority) would have sex with a lot of women purely because they like the way they look, have a vagina, and said yes. Great. Go bitch at them for making women turn down me when they think I only want sex. Or don't because 40% of people who have done over 1,000 cold approaches report a ltr, and not all of the other 60% report not getting one, so that DOES imply they were looking for LTR. You know lots of guys want an LTR, and will just cut their losses with ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 12:05 AM
-1	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. What makes you say that? A date is also an invitation for her to prove to me she's not crazy, because I do not stick my dick in crazy. I refuse to chance conception with a woman (but outercourse is ok) until she promises me stay-at-home fatherhood or single fatherhood (or adoption, plan B, or abortion; she just has to delete the "single mother, stay-at-home mother, or equal relationship" options) so if anything goes south, I can call rape by deception, in principle at least. "it's not foolpr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 11:50 PM
1	Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming. There's a world of difference between someone freely choosing sex work because it's the job they prefer and someone engaging in it because poverty leaves them with few realistic alternatives. Yeah, they are still choosing sex work/being a passport grill over the alternatives. If you take away their ability to do those things, you are admitting they had another choice, or else you are dooming them to those worse opportunities. It's because once she has comparable legal rights, What legal rights? …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 04:10 PM
2	Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming. Yeah, I believe it's possible, it's STILL better odds than homosexuality (10% SAHDs vs 7% ish gay people) but which working mom subreddit? Breadwinning women isn't very active but I have it linked on my sub, along with stay at home daddit	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 04:03 PM
3	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. What algorithm? I specifically searched for these videos when my algorithm was tuned to men's rights, not pickup. And I pulled up the best stats I could via Grok Like, I'm sorry, this isn't some outer-space novel technique for finding a girlfriend; this is what people used to say 20 years ago: "Just go talk to her, bro." https://youtu.be/wMo0gUjHdZk?t=111 They just didn't do it 1,000+ times, and they were being as obtuse about the advice along the lines of "just be yourself" instead of learning …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:57 PM
2	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. Lol no, 40% of people online who went over 1,000 report an LTR, and the other 60% include people who didn't say they didn't find one. And finding tons of flings and LTR attempts along the way. It's creepy if you do it to a woman who's obviously busy, or has a visible boyfriend; it's fine if it's just "a woman in public without a ring or a dot on her forehead"	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 03:25 PM
4	If you are the type of feminist to call men paranoid or closeted creeps for not wanting to approach women, while also praising men for following the "cross the street rule," then you are clearly a hypocrite with an agenda. Don’t cold approach women in public, tell them that they’re pretty, and ask them out. That’s creepy. WHY? If you can go up to a strange woman and ask her the time, you can go up to a strange woman, compliment her, and ask her if she would like a free meal. I'm tired of this "get to know a person a little," the point of the first date, and every date until "the sex" happens (as space ghost used to say) IS to get to know them. If it's creepy, I'm going to be creepy 20,000 times over the next six y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 02:46 PM
0	Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming. Yeah, it's less uncommon than it used to be, but only 1 in 5 parents still, and guess what? Only about 1 in 10 are choosing it, basically; half of stay-at-home dads are just doing it as an emergency switch Like, talk to women. Feminist women, half of them will at least lie and pretend to support it (but then have no answer to supporting child custody, or the fact that mothers get custody when it's one of the 11%-22% of live births that happen when the couple was broken up, and no stay-at-home pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 02:41 PM
-1	Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming. So then go look at my stay at home dad threads. Women complain that they want men who bring "somethieeeeng" financially to the table, even after you tell them you are willing to work 20 hours part-time in the afternoons or 16 hours during the weekends, and have a full time job while the kids are in school, it gets strawmanned as "a man who doesn't want to work at all" Because they complain, "why should she carry the baby when you don't do anything?" and the only thing that gets them to shut up i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:54 PM
5	Passport Brooing is nothing different then cheaper Escort Spamming. So what is traditionalism then? Men are expected to work hard and give their earnings to women; is that also prostitution?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:47 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill How were Epsitien and Weinstein misgonsts? Epstein was a monster and all, but you have to prove these people would have still targeted women if they weren't straight too. Like, IF Epstien was gay or bisexual, would he have stuffed his island with women all the same, or would he have targeted men 50% or 100%?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:45 PM
2	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Yeah when a woman becomes pregnant, the man "mirrors" her, it's not 100% but he goes through some big changes The difference is the woman becomes more agressive, but the man becomes more gentile	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 07:29 AM
0	One of the worst pieces of dating advice men get is "forget the apps, just talk to women in person" women on dating apps can filter for exactly what they want and have enough interested men to keep dates lined up for months. Sounds like you're contradicting the rest of your premise with this one sentence. If you're someone who gets virtually no interest from women on dating apps, its insane to think you'll suddenly have more success because you meet those women at the bar, park, or sports league.. No, I have no idea what you mean, man. I asked grok the other day: of the people online who repor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 07:18 AM
3	Feminists do not support stay at home dads No man I'm sorry, but woman earns the same and does equal child care -> she gets custody. woman earns less and does more child care - > she gets custody woman earns more and does less child care - > a prayer that you will get custody I'm sorry, but insofar as I can gamble on behalf of my future children, I feel obligated to say this is my best gamble. Yes, there are horror stories, because the courts are a shitshow, but the number of single fathers is growing, and they have to be coming from s…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 06:49 AM
3	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Jesus Christ, I guess 1 in 3 is better than nothing, but is there income-based child support flowing in one direction? I mean, this is all anecdotal, but we really don't have data. I would like to know the location if it wouldn't bother you? No alimony is not a surprise because supposedly only 15% of divorces include it, but asset division? Prenups?	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 04:17 AM
2	Feminists do not support stay at home dads So you WANT to be hired as a daycare worker, Not the point but are angry because the majority of sexual crimes are committed by men. So we've gone from "men are not profiled as pedos, stfu you paranoid little man" to "men ARE profiled as pedos and thats a good thing Men only commit about 10%ish more sexual crimes when looking at adults, you are citing criminal justice statistics when you should know the criminal justice system is biased against men, you need to look at surveys https://revtrad-fe…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 04:04 AM
2	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Oh, and what happened to the father's custody and alimony? Because the best argument to me when it comes to these supposed "more likely to divorce" stats: "She can try that"	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 03:03 AM
5	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Yeah, the PPD mods complained that someone could find the original thread by searching for the text in the image, and then said "she has a right to defend herself," which is like the ultimate facepalm They then said that if it didn't stop, they would temp-ban BOTH of us. So feminism works like a school where you ALSO get suspended for standing up to a bully, fantastic, we all loved having to put up with that dynamic when we were kids I'm sure.	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 02:53 AM
2	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Or unless you move out to the boonies My mother and father both had to work when they lived in a city suburb. One day, my father got a promotion/transfer to a rural area, and suddenly shit was so cheap that my mom was able to stay at home. The only problem was that you had to drive 30 minutes to get everywhere, but it was a purple state that was more "wood-sy" rather than than "cotton field-y" like in lots of parts of the south, or "desert-y" like Nevada or New Mexico. But I tell women in the ci…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 02:48 AM
3	Feminists do not support stay at home dads The Swedish National Agency for Education (a government body under the Ministry of Education) explicitly identified suspicion of pedophilia as the primary barrier to increasing male participation in Early Childhood Education and Care (ECEC/preschool). In a 2014 report cited in research:“The largest barrier to get more men to work within ECEC, and to keep them, is the ever-present threat of being suspect of pedophilia.” (National Agency for Education, 2014, p. 19)The Swedish National Agency for E…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 02:30 AM
3	If men understood having a victim complex is "feminine", very few of them would have it. What nose? The stuff that guy linked was amateur hour; the first act of feminism was the Tender Years Doctrine, which was not equality. Women's right to vote without the draft was not equality The first founder of DV shelters for women (a non feminst) tried to make them gender neutral later, and was chased out of the country by feminist bomb threats Show me feminism being about equality anywhere ever? We even have two feminist groups contributing to the Philippines banning ALL video games and pi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 01:59 AM
5	Feminists do not support stay at home dads No, go to r/revtrad , half the posts are recipes. You just profile us as pedos, so we can't practice the "parenting" portion of the kikimora triforce professionally as daycare workers and elementary school teachers, and you take half the professional cleaning jobs from us (fortunately, we get to be custodians), and, of course, we are the majority of professional chefs and bakers. We are not too good to cook and clean. I WANT to be a stay-at-home dad who cooks, cleans, and just switches off for h…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 01:50 AM
9	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Do they just work, or do they earn more? I don't care about your "studies" that "prove" SAHDs do less housework than their female breadwinners (when we have some evidence that contradicts that in Australia, we aren't adjusting for income gaps, we have some data that men do less housework when single, potentially indicating they log fewer hours because they are more efficient at it thank you, and all of the data is self reported) I don't care if they ARE 30% more likley to be beaten by thei…	/r/MensRights	03/07/26 12:38 AM
3	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Yeah, I just would like to know what the income gap was in the last two? Because I am working on research that shows this stuff happens in like 90k gaps, not like 10k-30k gaps. If you head on over to the stay at home dad subreddit you'll find happy dads and happy moms (mostly) The truth is, if female feminists fucking HATE tradwifes, they would probably HATE men doing the same. It's just so baffling to me that trads are unironically the coolest people about these relationships. Most feminists ar…	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 11:31 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" oh wait, I didn't see you are in fact responding to this comment what are you saying? Are you saying that because I said it DOES in fact get them to stfu, it is a lie or a plot? Because I have no idea why else you would think that comment is a refutation rather than a confirmation My goal is to protect my children from abusive wives; otherwise, raise them with a working non abusive wife. I will tell my future wife she is the best mother in the world if she lets me stay at home (and I will mean i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 10:06 PM
0	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Oh yeah, it's just sometimes the breadwinner finds the stay-at-home more useful if he/she doesn't work at all and is always on call, like they can drop everythiong and pick up a sick or injured kid from school, or if they have a huge house to clean. I;m just prepared to earn part time too because it's just not reasonable to ask someone to not work at all in expensive places like NYC I want to know why they view the stay at home mom as being "protected" by the man by letting her stay at home, and…	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 09:40 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" No dude, look below you, this chick stopped responding, and then the next person stoipped resonding https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uj97cy/comment/ouofzkr/ You can find other threads where I have discussed this too Now GTFO my inbox and stop slandering me as a baby napper. I'm not giving you any other arguments. You're free to class that as "me not having an argument," I'm classing it as proof YOU are stalking/harassing me if my repluies only say "go away" and your say ANYTHIN…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 09:37 PM
10	Feminists do not support stay at home dads You mean I started off with a main post that made me look bad, and you posted a link to a post that made me look good, like a reverse mott and baily? NOW we are done, get out of my inbox and take a look at the ratio here	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 08:14 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" It doesn't matter, log out and view the thread (like in another browser) and a bunch of your posts are missing Again turning off reply notifications	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 08:00 PM
12	Feminists do not support stay at home dads The link wasn't projection. Calling me obsessed was a projection You linked words you agreed with for some strange reason, and said "you should have said that at the start" and I told you I made a np link, and you are participating. Nobody from this sub is commenting there I'm turning off all reply notifications on every comment you have for me in my inbox because I know the rule with false accusers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrVJtMoRfCI It just REALLY sucks that that sub has a "no frivolo…	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 07:59 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I have a pleb job and i live on my own, and I just dropped out of an online coding boot camp (that's SUPPOSED to take 1.5 years but took me 3 years to barely finish 1/3rd of it) to go to baking school in the spring I do have an income, and the point is, I would give her the payments off the books so she JUST increases her credit; she just owns a house that is worth half a million that we could use as collateral, and I would inherit that house anyway. I do live on my own, but if I'm into taking c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 07:53 PM
14	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Projection, you followed me here, and you brought up a totally fake history of mine (wanting to be a baby napper) on that thread	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 07:39 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah that's why I said I wanted my mom to take out a loan, so I could talk about starting a family in like two years instead of six-ish, but me not being a "mooch" on my mom in that way is so much more important to women than my future wife's eggs getting 5 years more autistic, and my sperm getting 5 years more schizo, because people are fucked in the head My mom and my dad had me at 40, I'll be fine. How about this: let's take a peak at how my kids are doing in 30 years, and how your kids are d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 07:00 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "None of my comments have been removed." You have to log out (like use a seperate browser) to see it, smart girl: <image> "Grow a pair." Sounds like you're enforcing toxic masculinity, Feminsts told me to express my vulnerabilities and be more sensative "Oh perfect I'll go ruin that for you with what you actually said LOL" So: 1 Congrats on admitting you are about to brigade when i gave a np link 2 I thought you just said that you "never said" that I wanted to steal custody and I intended to div…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 06:53 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" No dude, if you swipe an old lady's purse, you don't get to call the cop chasing after you a "harassing stalker" And the reports worked great: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uj97cy/comment/ouok4pa/ But also this is the second fastest growing karma I have ever gotten on Reddit: https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1ulkw7g/feminists_do_not_support_stay_at_home_dads/ Easily going to make up my downvotes I got here, thank you	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 06:16 PM
9	Feminists do not support stay at home dads You mean "earns less money," right? Because otherwise you're doing it too. I honestly told them, "I will work 16 hours on weekends, or 20 hours in the afternoon, then summers like that after kindergarten, and full time EVERYWHERE ELSE" and women just flat-out said "that will sound like you don't want to work at all to most women," and "women wants a man who brings sometheeeeing financial to the table"	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 06:02 PM
7	Feminists do not support stay at home dads Milton Friedman used to talk about how the wheel was not invented in parts of africa until the 1700s At the same time, Places like China were also impressive: woodblock printing, discovering gunpowder, and inventing calculus when the Europeans were still drinking the water they were pissing in. But then the classic "if you believe in white privilege, you have to believe in asian privlidge even more" argument can come back, after taking a break during COVID. And it's really not a race thing; Geor…	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 05:19 PM
22	Feminists do not support stay at home dads I did find they (mosty) stfu when you argue, surrogates top out at about 80k outside the usa (only drivinen up by regulations in California, and her preg is not similarly regulated) so you give her 40k (because she consents to sex 50%) so i start talking about a 120k bridal gift, and then say "my 'emotional labor' could be worth up to 140k according to the un" and that shuts 90% of them up. A few press on with "but you're not a woman lol" or again, erasing their memory of you being willing to wo…	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 04:58 PM
22	Feminists do not support stay at home dads I expected them to at least lie to me, like they make an effort to do with everything else :P https://youtu.be/RTMBsJ9t2Ec?t=471	/r/MensRights	02/07/26 04:41 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I still want to know what "future fathers days" posts you are talking about? I have a post celebrating father's day. You can pay tribute to the faters who already exist without being one yourself. Four upvotes for incoheritance, Christ	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:24 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" https://np.reddit.com/r/tradwives/comments/1go2j0a/how_many_of_us_tradwives_also_work_and_how_do_you/ https://np.reddit.com/r/tradwives/comments/1moldbf/comment/n8l2j3s/ Like, I'm sorry, you can see it's an unpopular answer there, but the "tradition" of having one half of the couple just not work at all was only a thing starting in the late 1940s, and it dropped by half in the early 1970s, because it's genuinely fucking absurd. I mean, some SAHDs even do indeed say they need that time off to g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 03:26 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" SO a womans not a trad wife if she works part time? That's crap; if I wanted trad, I wouldn't want a woman who literally sits on her ass and does NOTHING when the kids were in school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 02:16 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah so you not see the "reverse" in my flair? Six people upvoted your comment, that's six people who don't understand that stay at home moms get custody when they were financially dependent, and when people honestly think that someone who work full time when they can, part time while raising kids is suddenly going to be tettering on the edge of homelessness if they divorce someone who earns more money (not the only source of money)	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 02:07 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Great, I don't even think the vegan woman who said she would be a female breadwinner to 2 biological kids who randomly popped up in this thread is even one of them, so I'm thinking you are just jelly because you are a workhorse Like I said, there are people in this comment section who are asking "how can you pay her alimony when she earns more" and pushing the "she should get custody if you divorce because you can't take care of the kids financially, oh but if you were the breadwinner she should…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 02:01 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah the "rev" in "revtrad" stands for reverse, did you not see yesterday when it said "reverse traditionalism"? Like I maybe should not have xhange my flair, because it really does totally confuse people	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 01:42 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" We now have 35 upvotes on this comment When 75%+ of relashonships imvolve the women setting up majority custody and demand alimoney open SAYING they are doing it because they want the alimony in case he leaves, nobody bats an eye. You find ONE guy who says the same (to compemsate for a biased court instead of making it worse) you lie and say he intends to steal custody just because he feels like it, and everybody's "protect the women and view men as assholes" biological biases go haywire and the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 01:40 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" No that's what I make to actually eat around the house Of course I will make homemade rye bread and thinks like hedgehog cake when I get a lottle more advanced	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 01:32 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" if you can't afford to look after the kids and she can or if she has enough to pay for caretakers while she works. This donation made possible by viewers like you https://youtu.be/VIJ1WaYeC3Y?t=5560	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 07:12 AM
1	Mongolia shows that traditional masculinity and relatively high gender equality can coexist. Compare that Compare what? You aren't teling me anything meaningful about mongolia pre 20th century Europe where women where expected to be house wives and submissive Which pre 20th century europe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYlw_ly6R5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9jBdac3KQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoU035Egt64	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 06:58 AM
0	The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away. Red Pill ideology—and the broader conservative politics that increasingly overlap with it—are among the major reasons many women have become more cautious around men. Look at what large parts of the modern conservative movement are advocating. And we are conflating the red pill with conservatism why? Conservative people in the top political spots are far too busy to fart around on red pill forums like us plebs. If you're looking for the people in the top offices who DO have that much free time, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 06:43 AM
2	If you have to use Money or Status to attract a Women she just doesnt like you that much. Well I know an MRA who agrees, and disagrees with me (another MRA) because it's just the ONLY thing that gets them to shut up about how "I carry the baby" when you say you want to be a stay at home dad https://youtu.be/N1A9WM0SrAc?t=4369	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 05:40 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah, I've been an ethical vegetarian in the past, but now my vegetarianism is just rooted in me just not being able to physically process meat. I honestly don't care if she eats meat; it would just suck if we can't eat dinner together. A guy on The Daily Show once (25 years ago) said one of the biggest boons to kids is actually eating dinner every day as a family, and doing what my mom did when I was very young (eating a separate NutriSystem meal from everybody) I don't think is great https://g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 05:15 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I mean you can check out the thread in the stay-at-home dad subreddit the other day where a guy said he really is ONLY a stay-at-home parent, and cooking and cleaning are split 50 50 with his wife, and he has no part time job? Because I'm thinking we call up that guy, and we build a matriarchal beehive with that guys wife as the queen, and enslave every female snoo whining in this godforsken comment section to have that arrangement with their husbands (the female snoos who aren't living out an a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:58 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah I didnt see this in your first comment days ago My op was about securing MY alimony FOR ME by earning less in case I or my children are abused, and I don't have a DV shelter Hence you say "no alimony would be awarded" because the idea men would get alimony is rediculous to you, rather than "SHE is supposed to pay ME alimony" jesus	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:45 AM
2	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah, these handful of reqs or dying alone and childless, unironically fine	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:40 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Then stop linking in comments to me. Why? The audience sees my comments to you. If you're ignoring them it shouldn't matter I'm not bullying you. I'm classing "imaginary" as bullying You could find a woman who meets all your criteria but looks like a run over foot. Yeah there's no way to say this without being mean and nice at the same time. but I would rather marry this female MRA (if she were single etc) <image> ... than a girl who abuses you into treating people like this, and you put up with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:11 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" It doesn't matter if you're not watching it because there are 200+ people who read every comment; there is an audience. You know one guy did 10,000 cold approaches? I can do 20,000, work on communication, mental health (find the right therapist), hit the gym, build my career as a baker, and yeah I'll get there by 6 years or so man. Because you know what? I can always bully the girl like how you're bullying me. It got you married, so it works, I'm assuming /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 03:45 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" There's a vegan woman above you who says she would be a breadwinner to a guy who wants two bio kids and adopt a third, just randomly happens to be a regular on this forum We just need to find one whose one of the 40% willing to compromise on politics, and be willing to have one more bio kid (and be cool with my eggs and dairy off the clock, I would cook exclusively vegan at home for her if needed) and I'm home free bro, 40% of people who have done over 1,000 cold approaches found a ltr, and the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 02:26 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" coming back to award this because you actually were helpful, again thank you bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 02:18 AM
2	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Yeah, and that's called serial monogamy, so you are conflating when you pretend it's equivalent to polygamy 🤷‍♀️ That’s it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 01:50 AM
1	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Serial monogamy is not the same as polygamy or polyandry There's a paradox that the whole thing that made humans different from every other surviving ape is the fact that we have sex in private and thus "fathers" end up raising children that aren't their own, (and this made us the most socially empathetic species with uniquely involved fathers, because it served as a check against competitive infanticide) The paradox part is that this also may have led up to humans being (mostly) monogamous, BEC…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 01:01 AM
-9	“Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to men "Men should show vulnerability to women" yeah the women will totally reward that with a stronger bond /s I hope someday I DO find a wife that I can be vulnerable to, but the fact that most men don't express vulnerability with women is... not usually a "him" problem, be honest	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 12:22 AM
1	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Yeah, all these incomes can be reduced to a lifetime amount, and I have a smaller amount than a man who earns the same but does not take a stay-at-home break Like I'm sorry but how do you mean? People cite, e.g., men being made to pay on dates, and prostitution usually going male to female, as examples of hypergamy. Like what is the evolutionary basis for hypergamy then? It was an ape with fewer resources losing to an ape with more. It specifically existed to offset the burdens and dangers of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:57 PM
3	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Yeah what are you saying? If my wife and I both pull in 70k a year working full time, then I become a stay-at-home dad who only works 16 hours on the weekends, or 20 hours in the afternoons; suddenly, my salary can drop. If I go full-time stay-at-home dad, mjy salary can drop to 0. If the idea of that pisses her off enough that she doesn't do it, and instead seeks a guy who earns 90k that lets HER stay at home, that is economic hypergamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:44 PM
2	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Because stay-at-home dads don't earn? Like, the fact that stay-at-home moms are more common than stay-at-home dads by a factor of like 10 is ITSELF an example of hypergamy? I know, the logic is like magic bro https://youtu.be/4-Q1tlHBNVI?t=4	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:29 PM
0	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them I love how women act like it's obvious that polygamy is worse than polyandry when polyandry is only evolutionarily advantageous when it happens as an accident of kin selection, thus polyandry involves the males being related (like brothers or cousins) more often, and thus there is an incest by proxy situation in them	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:27 PM
2	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them I didn't say the women they pulled; I just said very broadly, there are openly hypergamous women Go look at my stay-at-home dad threads on this sub, one three days ago and one about a week ago, the only thing that got women to stop saying "why should breadwinning women carry children for you????' is to suggest a bridal gift of 120k (because unregulated surrogates top out at 80k worldwide, so if she wants the child 50/50, then three kids is 40k x 3) That, plus an insistence that we keep the finan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:21 PM
1	Mongolia shows that traditional masculinity and relatively high gender equality can coexist. "Mongolia traditionally is more gender egalitarian." How do you mean? If it's gender egalitarian, then it's DEFINITELY not feminist :P	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 10:09 PM
2	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Interesting take, now what about women who just straight up admit they are hypergamous	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 09:57 PM
3	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them Some evolutionary biologists believe that the reason humans are different from every other animal is the fact that we are one of only two animals that has sex in private; thus, males would wind up accidentally raising children that are not their own, evolutionarily That doesn't mean paternity fraud is cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 09:53 PM
–	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls I mean it's not the park, it's the sort of vibe that you sometimes get, sorta like, when parents say they hope their kids aren't gay, not because they hate gay people, just because they don't want the kids to experience homophobia	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 08:48 PM
0	Mongolia shows that traditional masculinity and relatively high gender equality can coexist. Are you familiar with the "gender equality paradox"? Places in Scandinavia that throw money and build crazy governmental programs to get more women into things like STEM fields, and men into nursing etc. totally fail and they wind up following trad-ish roles anyway, because they afford the trad-ish roles If you want places where you DO have 55%+ of people in engineering being women, you want iran, iraq, etc... because the women take those jobs because they can't afford to be stay at home tradwif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 08:34 PM
–	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls I've heard that disputed, and some parents do that because they don't want to be accused of being kidnappers when one of them takes the kid to a park, not just because they are racist shitbags	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 07:58 PM
1	Passport broing should unironically be illegal Source? Half the time, people like you call casual republicans "nationalists," and they stress they support legal immigration, not literally allowing no one to come in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 07:29 PM
0	Passport broing should unironically be illegal Source? Half the time, people like you call casual republicans "nationalists," and they stress they support legal immigration, not literally allowing no one to come in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 07:29 PM
0	Passport broing should unironically be illegal It was three options, and I don't care about your definition of consent when all choices are relative, and "if you choose not to choose, you still have made a choice" Why not just give them water without exploiting them? Well, do you want to force them to give them water? Because sex is the incentive if they don't want to. The point is, if it's two equally dehydrated women and you could only give water to one of them, yeah, the one who's willing to fuck you should get it. Then you fan the logic …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 07:10 PM
2	Passport broing should unironically be illegal When feminists pretend women are the only ones disenfranchised in other countries,14 year old boys end up engaging in cross dressing prostiution to pay for 16 year old sisters and 42 year old mothers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:46 PM
0	Passport broing should unironically be illegal No you can, you just say "i support legal immigrants and not illegal ones," and passport grills are legal ones	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:43 PM
0	Passport broing should unironically be illegal JD Vance wanted the same sexbot you did, he's just not as much of a lookist as you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3NEyfW0Q8	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:40 PM
1	Passport broing should unironically be illegal The men verbally and physically abuse their wives and they can’t divorce. hey often abuse their kids as well and the women still can’t leave their husband. Statistics and evidence that it's different from the gender-reversed need: all the stats I've seen have shown mothers to be bigger child abusers than fathers, including single fathers vs single mothers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:37 PM
1	Do you think you have a positiv impact on men here? Well, I did figure out that i need to get my sperm checked at 34 via reddit, and that asking my mom for a loan to pay for dual stay at home parenthood for breastfeeding will simply not fly with most women and i need to save up to pay for it myself (even if my sperm gets 4 years more scizo and I'm limited to eggs 4 years more autistic) And I got translations for my "do not retract" baby t shirts on reddit Then you have the paradox of both at the same time: you deal with unhelpful, bullying asshol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:34 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" No, I'm talking about women in the thread I started yesterday, about family planning. I'm not linking it because even np links sometimes get caught on the filer	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:25 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I mean, they are women on Reddit, so that's probably not indicative of women as a whole. As in, most women irl are probably far more rational	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:09 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Ah yes. Stick it to women Dude, the alternative is sticking it to men; the alternative is granting women majority custody and hoping they give the fathers 50% off the books "just because they feel like it," compared to the opposite. When the court is already biased against fathers, so this mutes that, whereas setting up mother custody makes it worse because men cannot be trusted around children. But also! Men should have custody because kids need their father more than their mother. Yeah, it's n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 06:04 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Pops up is the wrong word, the point is they STFU because they know they don't have an argument at that point The only rebuttal I've gotten is that "you are putting a dollar amount to preg," not realizing that them asking that men bring something to the table financially is them bringing money into it. The only reason they DON'T want it pinned to a specific dollar amount is so they can use it as a rule to ask men to pay more informally. (this started as a convo about how men should pay on dates …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 05:45 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" That quote doesn't contradict the claim, and that's not what i was talking about; i meant the "only goal" part is: "Not only that but he wants this woman to give him 3 children, and before she even does it, before she even EXISTS, effectively gives her the middle finger and ignores her sacrifices. His only goal is to take custody from her later." I can't believe you would say "give her the middle finger and ignore her sacrifices." Like women don't do that when they initiate divorces for no reaso…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 05:35 PM
1	Men should be glad that they’re less desirable than women. I'm not sure how those first three sentences jive with the idea that men are supposed to be considered more independent than women. I'm not sure they always were, though: when they opposed drafting women during World War II, they did give a misogynistic reason (and the misandrist reason of "women shouldn't have to lower themselves") but it wasn't what you think; it was that they thought women were too independently minded, that they might rebel etc. So that could be another gender inversion, lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 04:53 PM
1	Passport broing should unironically be illegal They don't want to fuck you, it's economic desperation Again, if you want to stop the situation, you are tacitly admitting they have another choice, and then you have to admit they HAD that choice before you stopped it, and they were not choosing it; they were choosing the hookup instead	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 04:34 PM
1	Passport broing should unironically be illegal huh, TIL, but it's only one of two countries in the world like that. And adulty is illegal too, so ouch And muslims get an exception At the same time, I don't see how the drawbacks specifically hurt women; if you believe the stereotype that men are houndogs who want to play the field and women want commitment, that would sound like it would benefit women more	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 04:14 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Again, how would I be unable to support the kids if we keep finances separate? I work part-time while I'm raising the children, full-time elsewhere, and again, if this logic held, millions of stay-at-home moms would not get the kids half as often as they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 04:01 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I always continue the debate via private message when the thread gets locked, or I get banned from the sub. It's not YOU, because again, there are dozens of people I have engaged with below. I just want you to either retract or back up your statement that I PLAN on divorcing and stealing custody, rather than I want cutody IF a divorce happens, because defemation is a crime. I would have to call you obsessed with me more, because you poked your head into this thread and launched into (false) pers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:58 PM
4	Passport broing should unironically be illegal No, paradox of exploitation: When you say the person "has no choice" because the alternative is living below subsistence or being unsafe, etc., then by stopping the situation, you are FORCING them to choose the unsafe thing instead, according to your logic. If you aren't, then you are saying they have another choice instead of being unsafe, but they had that choice all along, so the passport relationship was a choice all along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:50 PM
1	Passport broing should unironically be illegal "a country where divorce is illegal." Where is this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:45 PM
3	Passport broing should unironically be illegal "If you want access to women stop being a creep and work on your personality and hygiene" Are you saying foreign women like to fuck creeps with shitty personalities and poor hygiene? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPAk3Sg4lU	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:43 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Every single word is incorrect? YOU are incorrect in asserting I PLAN on divorcing and taking full custody. I'm reporting this comment for a personal attack too because of your use of the word "delusions" Also, no, I don't notice that people aren't responding; look in this very comment section where I go back and forth with like 6 people for 10+ comments a pop, and look at this: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uf82zo/comment/ou15jtt/ It's not a gish gallop if: - You agree I co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:36 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" She pops up all the time when I say there's a 120k bridal gift to offset the actual pregnancy (80k max for a worldwide surrogate; I want three kids and she consents to sex 50%, so 40k x 3 = 120k) Then keeping the finances separate is in her favor; me earning less is (hopefully) just in case the prenup is thrown out. I might have to swallow earning more though, just becausse it would be weird to turn down promotions etc, but then all of a sudden she might not want the prenub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 01:45 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Do you actually have a response to my post below, or was it too long for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 01:20 PM
0	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them "Lets assume it's manufactured by social media for a minute. How will i be able to control it?" You can stop using social media. "And i don't really think you want women to be attracted to same things that they were during mammoth periods anyway. and that also would be against evolution." Strawman, Reddit really is hopeless. I was assuming people strawman me all the time because I have communication problems, but that's not the answer. Reddit is simply a place for people too busy with work or ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:54 PM
2	"Hypergamy" is just a way to blame women for men's lack of effort to attract them 1: Dude, I tell people here that I want to be a stay-at-home dad to a hypogamous woman; it NEVER flies on it's own. I told them over and over, "I will work full time before the birth of my oldest, and full time (except summers) after the youngest is in kindergarten, and during the stay-at-home parent periods, not only will I cook and clean, I will work 20-hour half days in the afternoon, or 16 hours a week on weekends" EVERYBODY said over and over again, "you are the definition of mooch" and "wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:44 PM
1	What movies would you like men to watch? I don't know that it's relevant to the sub, but Penn and teller get killed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxjLYkOCI3k	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 02:54 AM
1	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. Oh I didn't see in your first post that you said you had a "roster." That probably implied having children was never in the cards. Ok, that was my bad I never said that age-gap relationships should be stopped with force (or even social shaming really, just warning both about the dangers if it was LTR) so I apologize, have a good one	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 01:31 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Also, whether asset division is 50 50, or based on what people started with, or based on some other system of "fairness" varies by state Why am I asking any part of Reddit outside of TRP for dating advice in the first place? This is just a place for people to fight -.-	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 01:22 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Because I haven't really tried (either in a red pill way or a blue pill way), and honestly, I didn't really know the man I want to become until about three months ago. Like literally my next career move after dropping out of an online coding boot camp, that I was unemployed for three years to take (when it's supposed to be a 1 and a half year course tops) and got barely 1/3rd the way through if that, I figured out I want to become a professional baker, took a pleb job until I attend culiary scho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:52 AM
1	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? "So you believe women should make it easier for men to filter out who to cold approach?" Yeah, why do you want it to be an open question? It's a waste of your time as much as it is ours, unless you WANT to play a "squirm for the queen spider" game with us " In doing so, women need to expend money, time, and attention to benefit the man who wants to approach women?' Yes, like the person who wants solicitors not to bother them has to spend money and time putting up a sign, or spend time walking to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:33 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Ok, but you'll probably see a glut of "reverse traditionalists are misogynistic terrorists" articles in whatever newspapers and guardian/jezebel type outlets still exist before then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWP7aKxZBxc	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 12:03 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" lol I've had women pm me nudes in PMs after telling them about it, and I had a woman say she agreed with everything I said, just that she didn't want kids Talking about how I'm trying to do what I think is best for children drives women away? nuh uh! I don't want to meet the women who prioritize adult women over children... because I already have, dozens of them	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:58 PM
1	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? Sure, if you don't want people ringing your doorbell, put up a "no solicitation" sign. Maybe you can argue there are certain contexts (eg church or something) where cold approach is inappropriate; you can definitely say guys should fuck off the first time when you tell them to leave you alone, and you can definitely say men shouldn't fingerbang you out of the blue or something, but just initiating conversation is not really a problem	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:55 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah, and atheists are 5% of the population, are the religious people right? Who is "everyone else"? Feminists who despise these relationships while pretending to support them? Tradcons who are unironically more supportive? The two MRAS i've talked about it with, who said they would seriously consider it? Legendary MRA Allison Tiemen who said she thinks it might be necessary because we have polls showing 90% of new jobs going to women in certain areas?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 09:19 PM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Great, so go with your 2 bio, one adopted plan then. I said it was a good moderation. Yeah, me getting hit by a bus is on the level of "shit happens," knocking someone up and hoping she lets me be a stay-at-home dad afterward is NOT "shit happens." Like, name me a thing that could "happen" that suddenly justifies me going forward-trad or egal? Or being ok with a woman who wants to circumcise, or corpally punish the children? That's why this "you think things will go perfectly" argument is a tota…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:45 PM
-2	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Obsessive posts about future fathers days What "future fathers days?" You mean the holiday, or me trying to be a little more responsible than people who knock someone up when they are 16? , shitting on feminism, mens right Yeah, because 95% of pleb feminists off the street I've spoken to are against stay-at-home dads (trads are unironically more supportive) just like how MRAs found out 12 years ago there were aginst gender quality in dozens of different ways for men, as if they couldn't tell fro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:38 PM
1	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. "When you start off with a snotty remark about being a stay at home dad that it’s at that point that I don’t have to take you seriously anymore." It's not a snotty remark - I'm saying the courts are broken so that you HAVE to do that to protect custody of your children, or take the greater risk of losing them if she breaks up, marriage or no. You don't understand the risks if you don't understand that. Why should I take you seriously when you are saying all of this childish fucking noise instead…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:24 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" She almost died. She was dead on the table for 1 minutes and 12 seconds before they could resuscitate her Yeah, that's HER. YOU could be a totally different story. As I said, adoption is an option if she turns out to be high risk like your brother's wife was. You are free to make your own choices; my future wife is free to make hers. If hearing about ONE woman almost dying in maternity scares YOU off, fine, but don't speak for other women. In fact, having only two but being willing to raise a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 08:03 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" ("would at the top is supposed to be wouldn't, I can't edit)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 07:38 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "My brother's wife nearly died giving birth to their first daughter. Asking her again to go through that is super super selfish." Yeah, and telling someone like my mom she should have stopped when she had me, when she openly said that kidney stones were worse floer her than pregnancy, would be trying to control a womans sexuallity. Thats why, Iwould look at your brothers wife alone if you want to try for three, you might be a totally different individual and I would be doing you a disservice if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 07:35 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "Also the children need a house to live in. You should aim for getting one." Uh yeah, I said I would move back in with my mother. That implies I already don't live with her, and my mother has a house. You know, I want to take care of my mom - or my future wife's parents - in their old age if I need to? So we don't need to stick them in nursing homes? The easiesy way to do that is to have them live with us. Not me moving into her house vs the other way around, but that's why, even women not fucki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 06:32 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Well, I would rather die alone if I can't be a stay-at-home dad Sorry, but this is the life I want https://youtu.be/lzPANRxaZk4?t=514 (Aside from the stepdad part, again I would be ok with a single mom who is giving 50% custody to the biological father, but I think that's harder to find than a woman who wants a stay at home dad to new kids :P)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:50 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Great, so I'm not a "stay-at-home parent" according to your arbitrary definition; I am just in a position as the person taking care of the children to be declared "the primary caregiver" and be granted majority child custody in the event of a divorce Is your idea of a "stay at home parent" one who does NOTHING literally while the kids are at school, like not even picking up something part time? Is that your stay at home mom fantasy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:41 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Lol, I just had to log in on mobile to edit a reply while my desktop internet connection was down, and I didn't have my browser extension that hides downvotes/upvotes as I do on desktop. This was worth -8? And people don't think this site has a pro feminist/ pro woman bias? lololol	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:33 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" A "bridal gift" is the proper name for basically a dowery, but from the man's family to the women's (in this case, from the man himself) Surrogate mothers top out at 80k outside the USA (regulations in California make it rise to 250k, but her pregnancy is not similarly regulated, so the max 80k that the rest of the world charges is good enough for her) I give her 40k for each pregnancy (because she consents to sex 50%), totaling 120k, to shut down ANY argument along the lines of "she's carrying …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:29 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "What I'd be concerned about, is if you have no earning capacity or don't work/never work, " Can you please make at least an effort to read the comments before replying? Below, I say this like three times: - I will be a full-time pro baker that starts at 40k and can top out at 120k - Only taking a break ( where I will work 16 hours on the weekends or 20 hours in the afternoons) between the birth of the first and until the youngest is in kindergarten, and after that the same on summers 'what if s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:19 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" 'Dude. You still haven't understood my first comment. I asked why you don't bring up being infertile. (like perhaps you had your fertility checked already, or maybe you straight up hadn't considered being infertile. READ: BEING NOT BECOMING.)" I mean, honestly, you are right man, but only because I have never had my sperm checked. I just always assumed it was fine based on me being young, etc but sure, I'm 34 now, and if you think some people will find it suspicious (and of course she would expe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:45 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" " I would only be ok with being a breadwinner with a guy who wants 3 kids if at least 1 of them was adopted or a surrogate" See, this is what I'm talking about: why 2? You can do what you want, but you already admit you're willing to raise 3; do you have data that 3 biological would wreck your body? Or is that an environmental thing when the birth rate is crashing worldwide anyway? 25 years ago the average was 3.5, I remember that from the "Son of the Beach" TV show I would even be cool with a s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:36 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Thats not what's in in the op. u wouldn't have a income Yeah maybe scroll down and read one of the five comments where i said otherwise then? This man likely has no money to give. Yeah, you also get alimony for earning less money, rather than just if you earned none. I understand that less than 15% of divorces involve alimony but some is indeed awaded to partners who merely earned less. My work history will be taking a bigger hit than moms who take a break to stay at home https://youtu.be/bFCpiT…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:48 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Women who fit what you're looking for are rare, They really aren't at all, we have about 1/10 of stay at home parents being dads as a decided upon thing (which is huge when we are looking at 12 million women) and we have 3x as many female vegetarians as male. Those two things filter out to the left wing, which in turn is quite likely to automatically support anti-corporal punishment and anti-circumcison, and atheism; she just has to tolerate me being an anarcho-capitalist, and I probably convinc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:03 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" That would be fine, but then I would want a wife to teach those daughters to respect the men in their lives, such as potential boyfriends, coworkers, or um, me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:58 PM
-2	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" You misunderstand. I'm not talking about that you might have two kids and then BECOMING infertile, which you mention. You do not address BEING infertile. I am talking about you BEING totally infertile. Like right now. Not being able to have a single kid. Not knowing before a relationship that your sperm does not and never will work. Uhh how would that change my answer? The solution to that is ALSO adoption or surrogacy. you did answer my question that you would adopt/surrogate Yeah, thanks, thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:57 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" This is clearly a comprehension issue. Yes, you are not comprehending me That makes zero sense. No, it does; if you are responding to more than half my comments, but you are ignoring half, you would be making up the topics in the ones you are not reading. never once mentioned any of that to me in prior discussions. I'd probably want all of that in writing, personally. I didn't mention the bridal gift, but you can find me on this sub saying that if pregnancy needs to be financially compensated by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:40 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "but you haven't mentioned the possibility of you yourself being infertile" In the op: "...could have two kids, and suddenly [] my sperm stops working." Read, please "if so, how would you approach this issue?" Adoption and/or surrogacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:16 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" 100k swipes on a dating app you mean? Because dating apps are completely different from cold approaches, they are mostly for informal harems. A completely different caliber of women. Not to pry, but why isn't adoption or surrogacy on the table for you guys? None of my buisness; I just want to know how this kind of compromise goes down in practice	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:51 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I mean it is an assumption, but you really think I won't find someone with 5000 attempts?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:41 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "Yes. You were not being honest in your post. Why didn't you use the same format in your post you use in all of your comments? You softened it and left a lot out" Because people like you tell me all the time I need to only include a few things to keep me more consice I didn't leave anything out that would fuck up my argument; you do. I say "I want to be a stay-at-home dad because I think I'd be a good one, AND because it protects me in a divorce," and then you delete the "I think I'd be a good o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:39 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Soemtimes it gets so painful, just like talking to yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjizgMynf6Y This is her btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SNAcwnYjYU	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:35 PM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Deprogram? Really, dude. Yeah, it's a reference to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npSIM0MeJks You don't want a person Yes I do. A person compromises on some things and refuses to compromise on others. If you want me to compromise on refusing to impregnate a feminist, and not compromise on.... anything else, I'm calling that YOU not treating ME like a person. You want someone to play a predetermined part I have no idea what you mean; I want to "predetermine" her part as the breadwinner, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:32 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Oh, I didn't see "in a way" That's a circular reasoning fallacy; if I'm not a stay-at-home dad unless I am expected to not work at all, then you are saying I CAN'T bring anything to the table, or I'm not a stay-at-home dad (because you don't think stay-at-home parents + chefs + cleaners do anything that can be called "bringing something to the table") Try: what do you think a woman is entitled to when she gives birth to three of my children? You don't have an answer, because you know when you le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:16 PM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "You are making a ton of assumptions." Screenings are not assumptions. If a woman says "i want an equal realshionship, or i am ok dying alone" that's not an "assumption." You saying "assumption" implies that she will compromise instead of dying alone like she said she would prefer. "The average SAHM works ... they're still trying to rip women off on household chores and duties." I am working with a researcher to prove that this shit doesn't happen as often as people think, and the stats are most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:00 PM
-3	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Which parts of my post history?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:38 AM
1	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. I didn't suggest you get married; I understand even prenups are not invincible. I'm saying it's reasonable to assume unmarried LTRs are ALSO less stable with an age gap That is all, don't tell me to "run along" when you cannot even understand the meaning of my post and think I was supporting marriage. I'm the one who needs to prevent you from running into traffic, not the other way around	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:36 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" "No. I never claimed you were hiding it." Yes you did: "In typical fashion he's only being about 25% honest in his post." "I'm geniunely concerned for you at this point." Then stop trolling me and tell me what I need to practically become a stay-at-home dad to a female breadwinner? I am in therapy, changing therapists soon to find a better one, and I am being as practically minded as I can If it's just "you can't be a stay-at-home dad because fuck you" then I will go childfree and spousefree, or…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:32 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" That just makes it "practical trolling," like a practical joke. Like when 4chan said electing Trump in 2016 was an act of trolling. It's not a sub "where I talk to myself" like a schizo, there's one other person (after three months) and I gain a new subscriber every two weeks or so, and a few other people vote. If you go to r/womensadvocates it mostly is just the founder because it's a young sub; you aren't saying she "talks to herslef"	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:27 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" It's not parental leave; it's going part-time Dropping from 40 hours a week to 16 on the weekends, or 20 on half-day afternoons, and I can take custodian jobs (I have 5 years of experience) can do it if needed, because custodians are known for weird hours In fact, I went on the SAHD subreddit and asked if anyone switches on weekends, and one guy said he was a custodian 4 hours a day in the weekday afternoons, that how i got the idea that I could go afternoons instead of weekends if I need to	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:23 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Going to school isn't really a stay at home dad, 34 + 13 + 13 = 60%, so approx on in 10 parents are SAHD because they feel like it? Ok, so I am assuming it might be more like 5000 cold approaches then and adding about two more years, and there might be a bit of an age gap if I want fresh eggs (like 5 years, nothing insane) I'm calling it doable with 12 million women in NYC	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:19 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I'm thinking she might be more likely to have to trade "enjoys sex" when I'm more interested in raising children. I didn't call my gender's birth control pill "the greatest invention ever" on the cover of time magazine lol Like, if she wants us to audio rape our children by exposing them to moaning sounds from the bedroom, that's not happening; I'm willing to drop sex down to us getting a motel room + a babysitter twice a month just to avoid that pedo shit Fortunately, soundproofers are on yelp,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:13 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" In the originbal post: "Obviously, anything could happen; my future wife could get injured or die, and suddenly I need to work full time and pay for a nanny/daycare. I could have a child with a disability. I could have two kids, and suddenly my wife goes barren, or my sperm stops working." The implication was I will swallow a woman going barren; I won't swallow her not trying If it's "her not trying" because she had a miscarriage (rather than just taking a break after)... sorry, this is gonna so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:07 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Could be 5000. Could strike gold after 50. You want me to only go for 50 before I decide "fuck it I die single"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:02 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" There are 3x as many female vegetarians as male, and then that filters to left wing women who automatically line up with 90% of the rest of this She either has to agree, or agree to tolerate my capitalism, pro gun politics, some kind of abortion limit (I want one month, but I found a female snoo the other day who wanted 22 weeks; that's fine) and every thing else is pretty standard for the left wing On feminism, I will try to de-convert her to WRA r/womensadvocates Sorry, she cannot be the mothe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:01 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Would OP accept this and be flexible? I specifically said I would. I just don't know why adoption and surrogacy would be totally off the table at that point. Like, I can't be with someone who deletes something I've said like you just did, because she sounds like an abuser to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2PhMiYc6vA It's just tough for the younger person to see it because they often haven't ever lived it yet much less enough times to see the pattern and recognize the lesson in it. You just …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:54 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" It's meant to be more fluid and you meet someone and something that never clicked before clicks. Exactly, you want me to "fall in love" and then suddenly 90% of theid shit goes out of the window, and then in 10 years I lose custody of my kids and pay alimony to an abuser. Not happening, will go childfree and spousefree over that And I don't think that something is going to be she's a vegetarian atheist girl boss who wants exactly 3 children and to marry down etc She doesn't have to be atheist; s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:50 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" The kids arguments here are good points, but I don't think I will find being a stay-at-home dad boring. There's always plenty to do, I love baking, and if all the kids are asleep, I get to dick around on the computer or play videogames anyway Cleaning is probably the worst part of it, but that's not "boring," just a pain in the ass	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:37 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Vegetarianism is a boon; there are 3x as many females as males there . Most of them are left-wing and thus are quite likely to agree with no corporal punishment, no circumcision, and being ok with SAHD and female breadwinners (i assume the women who want that are mostly left wing) She just has to be "culturally left, but economically right," or be fully left and be ok with someone who is like that, when 40% are willing to parter with someone with different beliefs The thing is, I can't compromis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:34 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" What I bring to the table: - Full-time baker that starts at 40k and can top out at 120 k - Only taking a break ( where I will work 16 hours on the weekends or 20 hours in the afternoons) between the birth of the first and until the youngest is in kindergarten, and after that the same on summers - My "emotional labor" of practicing the kikimora triforce of cooking + cleaning + parenting could be worth up to 140k according to the UN - A 120k bridal gift for the pregnancy itself, - enough saved up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:20 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" So you're perfectly fine with men sharing their chores (where they dump the household duties, chores and childcare on the woman), while keeping their finances separate? What are you talking about? I simply said "men don't want to get married because he doesn't trust her, and she does want to get married because she doesn't trust him" The full answer is that the man usually bites the bullet and gets married, and people are viewing that as "the man has to swallow distrust." I am saying I view that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:17 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" How is "working 6 hours on teh weekedns, or 20 hours in half days on the afternoons" before the youngest is in kindergarten and on summers afterwards "not having a job"? Why does she deserve alimony? lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:08 AM
-3	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" These are FEW FEWER demands than most women ask for. The only reason you think it's more demands is that I'm open and upfront about them, and most women make it a guessing game. But what I bring to the table: - Full-time baker that starts at 40k and can top out at 120 k - Only taking a break ( where I will work 16 hours on the weekends or 20 hours in the afternoons) between the birth of the first and until the youngest is in kindergarten, and after that the same on summers - My "emotional labor"…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:06 AM
-4	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" See my other comments for stats breakdowns. This is going to sound SO CRINGE to my fellow red pillers, not just because it's white pill, but because it's kinda oneitis for a woman I've never met yet, but I live near the Halsey Street L train subway stop, and "I will reach my destination for sure, I know" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3R-CcSjmjQ Goodnight Reddit. try to show me a purple or blue pill woman on this sub bragging about her antinatalist extinction who is half as optimistic as me in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:16 AM
-1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" some of these things seem like something you decide with someone else rather than decide and then find a woman who fits the part Again, vegetarian is the biggest boon, because we have 3x as many female vegetarians as male the lowest stat for the rest is 16% female breadwinner. then 19%, SAHDs, 40% ok with political disagreements (because I'm not going to find a fellow ancap) 70% ok with different religion and some of the remaining 30% are athiest (especially with these other filters like veg and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:11 AM
-2	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I mean I haven't really been seeking any women since I decided this is the path I want to take with my life about three months ago Again, 3000 cold approaches in NYC, the only thing I think I might have to do is "deprogram" her from feminism, and I think my branch of the manosphere (revtrads) might have the best shot at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npSIM0MeJks	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:01 AM
0	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yes i started out with "earns 10k more" so if the prenub is thrown out, hopefully I don't pay alimony to an abusive wife (as in, the potential abuser of my children) now I'm thinking 5k is fine, but this is all VERY fussy because I have to be careful about refusing promotions etc if I want to really be a sleezeball. I don't though; I will probably just naturally earn less via taking entire summers off, and even if I don't, a prenup will probably work, but you never know There's someone a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:57 AM
-9	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" He mentions "tipping the scales in my favor" a lot. Yeah, because if I am abusive to HER, the criminal justice system will likely work and shut down any alimony that she owes me. If she is abusive to me or our children, I deserve the alimony and assets if our prenup is thrown out (or at least, not paying HER alimony or giving her any assets if shes abusive) "He wants this in the event of divorce, so he can get custody (because fathers are better than mothers according to him-something about roug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:19 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Source?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:57 AM
2	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" No, I say if I can't have it, I am comfortable dying alone then. I'm not sure if that technically means I WILL "get everything I want and everything will go fine," or if that IS me technically saying that it's an ideal and not a standard...?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:57 AM
-3	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" 19% percent of stay-at-home parents are dads, 16% breadwinners are female, it's not a perfect overlap but better odds than homosexuality 40% of women ok with different political beliefs, 75% open to different religious beliefs, Only 6% vegetarian but they are all over NYC because they want veg restaurants, and only 2% of men are veg so that's a surf city stat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6V-suUgrBA So I'm thinking, I'm spitballing but it's doable with 3000 cold approaches over 3 years max (t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:52 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" What GTO? No circumcision, no daycare unless one of us dies, no corporal punishment, non feminist, does not care that I am ancap and atheist, and is willing to raise kids politically and religiously neutral. I work full time before the birth of the oldest and after the youngest is in kindergarten, except summers, and work part time either on the weekends or in the afternoon IF she wants me to during stay at home parenthood Separate finances, except I grant her 120k at the start of the marriage (…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:25 AM
1	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Yeah, so what's left over when only 29% of couples are in "equal relationships?" 29% equal / 18% SAHD / 48% ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:07 AM
0	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. I didn't say feminists, I said female collectives. Like a bunch of female friends. Glamour magazine and its "how to please your man" articles written by women. I'm thinking it might be it's own problem that women can listen to men talk about men, but men can't listen to women talk about women	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:59 PM
0	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. Do you take advice on men from men? Because you prob don't, you prob take advice from female collectives most likely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCHb2yE4Gfo	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:39 PM
1	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. "That's great blue pill advice. Literally had this type of advice in women's magazines from the 90's" Yeah, kinda like when people say lots of people who would have been considered casual democrats in the 90s are now considered right-wing today because the Overton window has shifted so much? Yeah, things that were considered normal in the 90s are considered hardcore misogyny today; you go on to call TRP misogynistic below, so confirmed. "ncounts" It's misogyny pushed by women, then, because it's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:37 PM
–	I would be happy if hypergamy was real You mean "work on your career, so you can find a man with a better one"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:26 PM
1	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. 'When men arrive there, especially the young ones, they are angry at the revelation of male/female attraction. It's so common that it's almost treated as an initiation into TRP and called "the anger phase." This kind of anger is not conducive for a happy and healthy relationship. " Yeah, and isn't it supposed to be temporary, and then they figure their shit out and calm down after a few years, figure out what women want, and get some sealegs? My problem is, if it's a red pill woman + normie man …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:07 PM
1	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. " If you don't want a divorce - which, in the US would generally be a bad thing for the older partner if there was no pre-nup - then don't get married. Simples." Yeah, and then be a stay-at-home dad to protect childhood custody? Like, it's not just divorce, bro; it's breaking up altogether. "Once I am dead, I am dead and my assets will be divided at that time by my will, and any trust I have put together (which I would use to protect kids (if any) or other heirs from adventurers.) So not worried…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:07 PM
1	If you are looking for an obedient wife the red pill probably won’t get you there. "TRP works as a constant source of bait posts. " Last five posts in TRP that are not mega threads 1. "How to Develop Social Skills from Scratch" Mostly focuses on a "conversation skills guide" with stuff like this in it: Good reactions fuel the listener's or co-conversationalist's commentary to keep the conversation not only lit but potentially more animated Having fun reactions will accomplish this Example: Friend: dude, why the FUCK did he think spanking her butt in the middle of church would …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:45 PM
–	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Hmm, I honestly don't buy it, because the cultures that practice "more nudity" 1 don't really build skyscrapers and 2 outside of nudist colonies and nude beaches, always wear something, like some kind of loincloth; I think the most we have are tribes with boobs exposed I understand there are some symbols that appear convergently and independently across cultures in isolation, but I don't understand how private parts would symbolize death. You say yourself that children is how many cultures bel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:52 PM
1	Manosphere supporting Age Gap relationships to a fault is strange. People like the op's "eww pedo!" stuff isn't the argument against it, and economic duress can't be the argument against it either, because of two paradoxes: - By stopping the age-gap relationship (either by law or social shaming), they are admitting the economically vulnerable partner has another option; otherwise that partner would, e.g., starve to death if they stopped the relationship under their argument. But then they have to admit the economically vulnerable person HAD that other option BE…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:24 PM
-1	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. Right, so just delete the sitcom source and we still have statistical fallacies associated with your data I mean, if you wanted to provide an example of where "no source beats shitty source" as an argument, I will admit you have bested me there; now prove that ovary possessors are actually cleaner in bathrooms?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 07:48 PM
0	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. Yeah but that doesn't explain why I experienced dirtier bathrooms in 1 a government building where the employees are not allowed to go outside and leave the building and 2 when there were 5x as many man working as women, and 3 e want data adjusted to account for similar pop breakdown and 4 we want data that accounts for time, this is just "have you ever once in your life" and does not measure frequency You can call my data anecdotal, but I don't see any polls by custodians or business owners on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 07:13 PM
0	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. Yes, because bad sources beat no sources. That person was literally suggesting that men are more likely to piss on trees like bums in great enough numbers to explain more women using the restroom more and thus making those restrooms more dirty I agree that they are more likely to pee on trees, but not enough to explain dirty-ass women's bathrooms; that's ridiculous. More ridiculous than citing seinfeld as a source	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:34 PM
1	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. They’re still acting out for women’s attention. Evidence needed; the closest you can say is that some view it as a protest to fix family courts, and some people like Paul Elam believe in a "temporary MGTOW" that should turn to pair bonding, but that's all And their sub was all about bitching about women which got it banned from Reddit That doesn't sound like they want women's approval. Not casual MGTOW, but hardcore MGTOW happens to actually be like, the one part of the manosphere that is consid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:30 PM
1	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. (NSFW) https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1uiiny3/penismonster_comics_009_red_pill_forward_trads/ The problem with PUA, Red Pill Trad, and Incels is that they ultimately seek women's approval, like male feminists. MGTOW rejects that in favor of seeking men's protection. Reverse Traditionalism is about men seeking the approval of their children by protecting their custody of them via being a stay at home father. That just completely bulldozes everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:21 PM
-1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? Great, make it a top-level comment in response to the OP who is asking for anecdotal evidence. I am looking for stats and looking for people caring about the millions of other men on the planet	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:03 PM
2	AWALT is used by guys who are bad judges of character. AWALT isn't just used by guys who get rejected; it's used by people who want to gaslight guys. I had a woman tell me "I don't see why a single woman would trust you" just four hours ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:01 PM
1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I mean, my real answer is that you guys are compromisers. As an atheist, I DON'T like the casual Christians who compromise and give you your gay rights and abortion etc, I prefer the radicals and the hardcores, because it's a better mirror of my brand of atheism https://youtu.be/IpNRw7snmGM?t=241 As a practical matter, I would rather you liberal Quakers having more impact on policy, etc than regular Quakers. But on a philosophical level... no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 03:43 PM
1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? It's just an atheism argument, you can substitute Quakerism for any other Christianity	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 03:10 PM
2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test I mean, why doesn't this apply to marriage in general, though? The classic situation is that the man earns more than the woman, and the woman wants to get married, and the man doesn't. The woman wants marriage because she "doesn't trust" the man, and the man DOESN'T want to get married because he "doesn't trust" the woman. That actually IS normal. Let alone the argument that people insisting on keeping finances separate before marriage is just as "distrustworthy." So iI don't know why distrust i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:32 PM
-1	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test Alright, but broken-up people have no incentive not to test then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:31 PM
1	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I mean that would help, but ink and paper of the law and it's practice are two different things. I read a story the other day about how a guys wife flew to another country and fired off a bunch of bogus sexual assualt accusations against the guy to do it. Because you know what? Even though alienation is illegal, theres a massive criminal justicde system bias in favor of women so it basically doesn't matter	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:28 PM
-2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test Yeah, I see now. I would say, maybe agree to the test on the first date, so they know you're not bringing it up because you've cheated? That's the only thing I can think of, even if it would never work in practice	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:26 PM
2	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? I mean I guess I would understand if it's basically like "god is grey"'s approach to christianity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptm2w1EKR1I At the same time, with due respect, you probably believe something that I would consider toxic, and if you don't, you ultimately enable those who do. I'm sorry to say	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:22 PM
-2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test I mean, why? If he brings up paternity and you refuse, that would make sense, but if you bring it up, that's you showing you have nothing to hide I guess I can get it in a "lady doth protest too much" way and a fake test could happen, but you can get trused labs etc involved	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 12:26 PM
-2	No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity test You have seen the opposite?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 12:19 PM
2	Men have no sympathy towards women "A lot of times i saw men complain that they are oppressed" I very rarely hear MRAs use the word "oppressed," just the pro-male association "because they have to care about women being scared about them at night, when they are just minding their own business." "Then we have infamous men vs bear. I see this as women scream from frustration and fear and what men do? They see women break down and start to lecture them that their feelings are wrong, and "actually...." " No, that's an example of how …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 12:17 PM
-7	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? "who statistically have the least chance of divorce in any developed nation so divorces and custody battles are not really something happening in my social circle all that often." The chance of divorce may be lower, but a college education is your protection? Compared to being a stay-at-home dad or finding a partner who earns more? I ain't no jive ass forward honey, who do you think I am? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygNnyHZ12cs " to know how well it's applied." It's never applied, bro; even …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:46 AM
1	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? "Funny. I thought you were comparing stay-at-home mothers to Janisseries as though they were simply slaves serving their husbands/sultans. I thought you were suggesting that the patriarchy was the longest-lasting empire, and that it survived by convincing women that they were important household leaders rather than slaves." No, do you know who that video is by? Female MRA Allison Tieman, and that series (threat narrative tropes) is her crown jewel. She was comparing the Janissary slaves to men. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 11:12 AM
-7	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? Ok, lucky you, do you have anything else to say to the men who are not so lucky? Like the men who don't have proper due process, no custody guarantee, etc?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 10:54 AM
11	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? "as someone who has been in a a relationship with the same woman for almost 15 years (and married for about 8), I don't have any bad experiences in my day-to-day life." The question wasn't "bad experiences with women," it was "bad experiences with feminism." Is this just the nicest way possible for you to say "anti-feminists just can't get pussy?" Because that's not a new argument at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 10:41 AM
6	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? What do you mean it doesn't make any sense? I learned about the Quakers supporting abolitionism in the 3rd grade 26 years ago The point is, if you say "murder is wrong," that's one thing; if you say "murder is wrong because the bible says 'thou shalt not kill'" that's another	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 10:25 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? "You have an unhealthy obsession with a made up reality that is never going to come to fruition for you no matter how hard you try" 19% of parents in the USA are stay-at-home dads, you can go to r/StayAtHomeDaddit and tell all the men, and sometimes their wives, that they don't exist Unless you mean me, personally, because I'm weird, etc. I don't think that's true when women stay with men who literally beat them, but let's see if the mod team considers your post a personal attack "That is defini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:48 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? "Sure. We take longer because we have 3 kids in tow." Again, no data, and women wouldn't have to if they didn't steal the kids in family court, so pound sand. "And this is exactly why I will never take the word misandry seriously." Yeah, even when men are the genocided gender you won't take it seriously. "It's misandrist to point out men can and do, pee on a tree." It's misandrist to suggest women don't https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/frozen-assets/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e29vP6gbvCc&…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:38 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? Then we don't get our undertakers, or the five people who are willing to be undertakers cost $500 an hour Why do you think this is an argument? This is contradiction without argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:25 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? That's because, well, they take longer in there. That might mean there are fewer women using them at the end of the day And lines are less common when it's multiple stalls rather than single occupancy, and single occupancy bathrooms can be unisex, and this is all anecdotal evidence anyway, so I don't know how your anecdotes trump mine as someone who had to clean these things professionally "(men will find a spot outside if there's a line)" Yeah more casual misandry, "we all know men will piss an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:23 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? "Lol you are really obsessed with this topic" Yeah, and it's not off topic, it's serving as an analogy and a demand for logical consistency. Why do people always say "obsession" like it's a bad thing? If someone's obsessed with dead bodies, you don't say "go to therapy until you are no longer obsessed," you say "dude, you should become an undertaker, because the 98% of the population who are grossed out by dead bodies could really use your help." "It was a man who freaked out" What does that hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:17 AM
1	Redpill or the dark pill isn't suitable for 3rd world countries Are you aware that the men's rights movement in India is a big deal? https://theprint.in/ground-reports/atul-subhash-suicide-was-a-sacrifice-for-indias-mens-rights-movement-its-mainstream-now/2453432/	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:02 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? Were these areas where there were more men than women using restrooms in general? Because that could distort things easily	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:56 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? "Maybe cleaning services should cater to the extra requirements instead of whine about it?' Yeah great, so when I ask for a female breadwinner to birth three children for me while I cook and clean and be a stay-at-home dad, I shouldn't even be expected to contribute more to make up for the dangers of pregnancy, she should "cater to the extra requirements" compared to if you flipped the genders? Because the answer is, I did cater to the extra requirements just fine thank you, it's just not mutual…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:49 AM
2	Asking men to support feminism is peak audacity: Feminists in Australia lobbied to have suicidal men insta-flagged as potential woman abusers when they reach out to authorities for help I mean I think I understand how the data is flawed without even reading it, as you can see in my comments below: Classic statistical fallacy, if you filter out the population of heroin users by asking "how many of them have tried marijuana," you will get an answer closER to 100%, if you filter out weed users by asking "how many of them have tried heroin," you will get an answer closER to 0%. Those are the only kinds of data points people are furnishing here, so I assume that's all that needs to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:28 AM
0	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? They are a kind of christian, thus they believe in the same theological homophobia etc Religion is off topic for this sub, but a belief in an afterlife is necessarily hateful because it winds up valuing dead people more than living people, "I need to fly this plane into the wtc so I can get 72 virgins," "I need to be a kamikaze pilot so I can be reincarnated as a butterfly instead of a cockroach," etc. On the other hand, that's why it's a perfect analogy for Feminism: Most feminists are mostly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:11 AM
0	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? "Are you currently a stay-at-home dad?" No, do you want me to actually become one before I am allowed to complain? Because it affects me now, via me seeking only seeking partners who will let me do it. "I don't follow your point on the "soft echo" of the tender years doctrine" Even though the tender years doctrine is officially abolished, the soft "vibe" still leads judges, etc., to award the mother (or the primary stay-at-home parent) custody in practice. Like how Jim Crowe is gone, but things …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:06 AM
1	Men who criticize women for not going after the good guy don’t care about getting a good woman either. Why do you want pretty privilege to exist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 07:52 AM
3	What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience? "I experience the benefits of feminism every single day. I am able to go to university, vote, have my own property, speak freely, I'm not forced to marry and people generally don't look down on me for having a job." Should black people say that they "experience the benefits of Quakerism" every day that they are not enslaved? If you say "slaves should be free," you are an abolitionist; if you say "slaves should be free, and the fact they are not is caused by Satan," you are Quaker scum. Similarly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 07:26 AM
–	Why are women's restrooms dirtier than mens rooms? I was a custodian for 5 years and women's rooms were worse, the gender that poops + pees is not as dirty as the gender that poops + pees + has a menstrual cycle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:47 AM
2	Asking men to support feminism is peak audacity: Feminists in Australia lobbied to have suicidal men insta-flagged as potential woman abusers when they reach out to authorities for help "Research estimates that approximately 60% to 80% of family annihilators are suicidal men who intend to die, or do die, by suicide following the murders." Yeah it's "80% of family anniliators are suicidal," not "80% of suicidal people are family annilators" Classic statistical fallacy, if you filter out the population of heroin users by asking "how many of them have tried marijuana," you will get an answer closER to 100%, if you filter out weed users by asking "how many of them have tried heroin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:34 AM
-1	Asking men to support feminism is peak audacity: Feminists in Australia lobbied to have suicidal men insta-flagged as potential woman abusers when they reach out to authorities for help This is fucked up, in fact I sent it to the badgers as a show suggestion, but I do kinda understand where it might come from: suicidal people have nothing to lose. Prob what Chroistopher Hitchens meant when he said "I find masochism to be a creepy and sinister impulse." (though I disagree :P) You can't sway them with anything, because they are ok dying no matter what you do, so they might as well take down like 12 people in their high school while they do it. But I don't think that's where…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:27 AM
1	JP Morgan executive suing for defamation will have chilling effect on male victims. MRAs want more rape kits to be tested, for the opposite reason, because it might bust more false accusations Like how MRAs actually do support the ERA, just without the Hayden rider	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:18 AM
4	There are plenty of single and childless men who are just as happy as single and childless women, we just don’t see it advertised as much No, it's not 🎯, if you push any men's rights issue with a male snoo, you will get "lol you can't get laid." I mean, women get called pick-mes when they do it, so I guess it's at least a stalemate	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:13 AM
–	Blue pill psychologist's critique of a red pill psychologists's take: why common red pill talking points are just unscientifically sound "He promotes the idea of a nuclear family being the default, which she refutes by pointing out this is revisionist and a false narrative since historically extended family and entire tribes of people were responsible for child-rearing, not just those who conceived the children. " Yeah, but then single-mother families are even worse; two-parent families raising children are closer to a tribe than a single-mother bubble. That's also a reason for 50% custody in a divorce, because it's not fair to p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:11 AM
–	Why can't women be funny? I'm not laughing because it's not clever We do it too, it's called being self-deprecating: Face creams are made via baby forskin, so "Rub my dick on your face, and it's makes all your wrinkles go away" is a true statement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMrNIx9cdZs	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:47 AM
–	Why can't women be funny? I agree, rape is too important and needed to be funny /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:35 AM
–	Why can't women be funny? What about this joke: My friend asked me why men always have to be the ones who initiate, and then I replied "That's not true, your sister asked for it based on the way she was dressed"	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:25 AM
-8	Women who don't pay for thier stuff or avoid 50-50 are red flags. Ok, pretend I said equitable instead of equal Instead of downloading a dictionary app, you could watch a 40-minute video on how you should make every argument about *what your opponent means when they use a word," rather than "what a word ' objectively ' means according to reference materials like dictionaries" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:55 AM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Maybe you would understand if you actually saw the comic (NSFW) https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/s/7USDmBybCw	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:50 AM
-1	Women who don't pay for thier stuff or avoid 50-50 are red flags. Omg man, if the guy wants to pay he's a predator, but when you want him to pay it's "equity" Who are you running from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ent8mI6p4	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:32 AM
-3	Women who don't pay for thier stuff or avoid 50-50 are red flags. Yeah, instead of putting a dollar amount to pregnancy and childbirth, you want "no amount because it should imply that men should pay for women with no accounting," not "no amount because men and women should be equal"	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:18 AM
-8	Women who don't pay for thier stuff or avoid 50-50 are red flags. "Pregnancy. Childbirth. Postpartum recovery. Breastfeeding. ' Surrogate mothers outside California top out at 80k. So, according to the logic, you deserve 40k tops for every child, and you should haul ass to the coal mine for everything else, and this doesn't apply to childfree partners " The orgasm gap." You can't pin a dollar amount to that without arguing prostitution is ok, which you likely don't. And because again, this doesn't apply to the men smart enough to have a "cunnilingus + fingerba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 03:53 AM
–	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him Yes and no: I would say, it's whatever was understood and agreed upon before the marriage. Two totally asexual people should be able to get married (and enter into a similar LTR without an official marriage) just like how two people who never want kids should be able to. I say, women and men are not entitled to "sex anytime they sneeze their fingers" like rapists, they are entitled to a "sex life" broadly (if that was the silent understanding), like how people can cite sexual abandonment as a re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 03:07 AM
–	The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative. It wasn't "far less" than what men were paid, it was less pay according the the difficulty of the job. The "1800s wage gap" was due to the fact that women were doing things like hauling coal onto lories, and the men were mining coal into the mines. Secondly, citation needed on the "her wages were owed to the husband retroactivly" part Thirdly, all of these women's prohibitions on having no male cosigner or their own bank accounts came with fathers or nearest living male relatives having to pay f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:07 AM
–	If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them And that's an argument from ignorance fallacy Abolishing welfare is in fact a solution, milton friedman was famously quotes as saying that the society that puts freedom before equality will get both, the society that puts equality before freedom will get neither	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:00 PM
–	If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them Subsiding poverty, and then you get more poverty	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:32 PM
1	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? "“Might”… you have no clue. " Yeah because you aren't giving me sources or arguments, just assertions. I actually don't have a clue, and it's your fault. I also find it fairly terrifying that you think it is only rational for men to murder their wives and girlfriends. I’m not interested in jumping down this bonkers rabbit hole of you putting words in my mouth I also find it fairly terrifying that you think it is only rational for women to murder their husbands when they don't have no fault divor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:32 PM
–	The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative. No, i think it was a more domestic role for women, and they had fewer jobs available often for sure There's no evidence they were kept out of the workforce to such a degree that they wouldnt have been able to find a pleb coal miner job where they would have payed chilkd support A "spinster" was literally a woman who spun yarn in a factory. Women worked, they just weren't the presidents	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 07:07 PM
1	If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids? "I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m not interested in jumping down this bonkers rabbit hole of you putting words in my mouth." I meant informal tender-years supporters, as in people who still support resumed mother custody rather than 50/50. And by that token tender years is not repealed, only on paper, not in practice. And you are accusing me of putting word in your mouth is a joke, because it was an "if," and a question "Women are murdered during pregnancy, so you want to abolish so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:10 PM
-2	Women Love Objectification, When It Benefits Them No this is all wrong, you are talking about women sexualizing themselves or being sexualized I don't think wanting to have sex with someone is objectifying them, I think wanting to eg fuck a dildo is humanizing the dildo, because sex is a reaffirmation of our humanity The closest I can think of as objectification is the human footstool <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:57 PM
–	If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them No, economic conservatives believe that those men are helped worse by things like welfare due to things like the welfare trap and perverse incentives Most conservatives actually don't believe in intentionally fucking people over	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:53 PM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls I mean, yeah, the money is supposed to go to the children rather than the wife, but that's sorted out in the inheritance usually when they don't break up When they do, women take more than what they have earned (40k per kid they give birth to) I realize this was all off topic from your initial argument, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:38 PM
2	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Yeah, sure, Asian cultures are known for higher suicide rates with their workaholic culture, and that disproportionately impacts men, but the point is, it would probably be even higher if men weren't able to work when they needed to And again, there is a difference between eg accounting bullshit, and writing a song for yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 04:34 PM
2	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Better for your boss? Sure. No, it can be something totally for yourself. The example that Tom Golden used was Eric Clapton wrote "Tears in Heaven" after his son's passing. That's not a perfect example because he did it for millions of dollars, but I knew a guy who wrote a song about his dog dying once. We need to let men know that they are not only valued if they can produce something They can produce something entirely for themselves, for instance, Maddox of The Best Page in the Universe used …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 04:23 PM
2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls I mean, when feminists talk about toxic masculinity, they say "men should be willing to be fragile, men should cry and show vulnerability" Then you try to talk about father custody, circumcision, or even just call yourself an "anti-feminist" and they bully you to pieces by calling you "fragile," "whiners" etc Thus, feminists are hypocrites who complain about (their definition of) toxic masculinity, and then enforce it on people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:55 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides No, we actuially din't have great data on this but the best I could find: Roughly 40–45% (sometimes cited up to ~50%) of first marriages in the U.S. end in divorce, though rates have declined from peaks and vary by cohort, education, age at marriage, and other factors. Because male-breadwinner/SAHM families show annual rates 2–3× lower than female-breadwinner ones, the cumulative percentage that ultimately end in divorce is likely below the overall average — plausibly in the 25–40% So not 10x mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:52 PM
1	Good behavior is earned The example you are giving of the homeless man not being sexually inappropriate is in fact an example of inaction, not action. It's kinda simple: Most of respect can be earned and not granted, but you need to respect the person some amount at the start, in order to respect their ability to demonstrate to you that they deserve more or less. Like when a person rings your doorbell, they are in fact entitled to do that without asking your permission first, and entitled to the 30 seconds of your time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:39 PM
2	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? According to Tom Golden, men express their emotions via productive work. How is that not healthier than just expressing them via talking etc like women do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:32 PM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides hey are mostly knocked up by adult men. Guttmacher Institute study (widely cited analysis of 1988 National Maternal and Infant Health Survey and NSFG data): https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/1997/03/age-differences-between-minors-who-give-birth-and-their-adult-partners (or PDF version via Urban Institute). Quote: "Among mothers aged 15-17 who had a child in 1988, 27% had a partner at least five years older than themselves. ... While births to young mothers and older men raise social conce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:06 PM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides OMG man, it's not a gish gallop unless you can prove my intent is to overwhelm you (and it isn't), and you haven't demonstrated that it's incoherent I'm reporting this comment to the mods because this sub has a rule against not making a substantial comment Here are the bullet points: One: suggesting that it is ok for boys to drop out of high school "because they can go to trade school" is REALLY terrible, because boys shouldn't have to become plumbers instead of tax accountants, or whatever they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:45 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Great to hear a red pill woman say this. Tomorrow's penismoster comic (spoiler) is literally just laughing at red pill woman who says "yeah sorry boys, we're all doomed because women are hypergamous and like to be tradded out, and that's just the way it is.... oh BTW that means you have to feed my hypergamy and trad me out"	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:16 AM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides I am working on research (with someone in Pakistan on fiverr :P) that demonstrates sahd +fbw relationships are not meaningfully more abusive or unstable when the income gap ranges from 10k to 30k instead of these crazy 90k gaps that studies typically look at, and if the rel was intended to be that way from the start We might have to borrow some feminist research and definitions there, like the researcheres definig places like france as "egalitarian" cultures, that's fine and we can work with tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:12 AM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides 1 yes, that is why people should avoid divorce and monogamy should be encouraged. If your truely unhappy then a divorce is in order because that unhappiness can translate to the child and all, but we have data that most people contemplating divorce reconsider when they stay married another 5 years or so 2 yes, if you are too poor to take care of your children, the court can declare you unfit, and it's a good idea to seek a financially stable partner, and be stable yourself first 3 ehh, eggs star…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:02 AM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Just adding that half of the quotes are missing but im not retyping it (it won't even let me edit my post without an error) all my comments and sources showed up so I don't care	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:53 AM
2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls I think "playing feminism's game of trying to be sensitive and more emotionally available, and then feminists proving themselves to be total hypocrites about that" would work fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:36 AM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Medium is a trash "source". Medium itself cited studies, they were all linked in the article (though it does have a paywall) Men have access to the trades. High school diplomas aren't relevant. So you would be ok with your kid dropping out of high school if trade school, um, existed? Great, so if your boy wanted a white collar career instead, he gets to be a plumber when he might not want that, because the absence of his father made him unable to handle high school psychologically Like, am I the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:25 AM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Mansplaining? The dadvocate is a woman, the honey badger brigade is women, and the national organization for women is mostly women too. Not only is all your evidence anecdotal, but you're also supposed to call mansplaining when a man is explaining a woman thing to a woman. You are a woman explaining a man thing to a man! LOL! What is this mediocrity I "expect" from men? I expect men to not have to just through hoops and literally "fight" for their kids when it's a right, like how some people don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 07:54 AM
-1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Yes, I have been called fragile when I furnish a laundry list of male issues along the lines of circumcision, and fathers not having custody As someone who is prepared to die for my future children, I consider "fragile" to be very close to the n-word for men based on that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:45 AM
0	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls It's called "giving money to your wife/gf after you creampie her snatch" Like what do you mean how?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:43 AM
0	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Ok, a statistics platformk that calls men fragile is a serious platform. I mean maybe it is, I don't care, but you think youtube is not credible when it has primary sources and shit	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:39 AM
2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Men already pay more than the 80k max surrogates outside the USA cost, to their preg wives and gfs typically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:37 AM
2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls "The gender that does not have a natural womb is the gender least affected by the lack of an artificial one" Can't make this shit up	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:36 AM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Lol, and here you are, thinking a study that calls men "fragile" is a serious paper "So here we are, bailing you out of jail for something questionable again" - Zorak	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:34 AM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Yeah how about no intentional single parents of any gender when we have more couples that want to adopt then there are babies available? Not as a legal thing, but as a social/moral thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:32 AM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Yeah but the zygote from two eggs isn't relevent	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:30 AM
1	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Well, if you don't want to look up research on the psychology of the manosphere, then your opinion is moot. No, yours is, because the burden of proof is not on me. You are refusing to cite a paragraph or a page number, so you are shifting the burden of proof via gish gallop. that document isn't a "definition," it's an psychometric inventory. Yeah, so give me a definition instead of a psychometric inventory? Because you don't have this base understanding of research methods or statistical analyse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:28 AM
–	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides No it's fine, I just gave you my answer without any "reflections" whatsoever: ""If women are more likely to be abused, let's have stay-at-home dads and female breadwinners and build them a 'where's my dinner bitch' statue" https://youtu.be/TkxRddtsngc?t=33 And facts aren't facts when we have a 50% to 70% non respose rate biasing your data But again, not discussing child suicide at all: ""If women are more likely to be abused in stay at home dad and female breadwiner rels, let's have stay-at-home…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:47 AM
1	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Oh no not the Honey Badgers. The very pillars of rigorous science. Yes, this is off topic, but honey badger the prim reaper actually published this peer-reviewed paper: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43545-021-00263-x Allison also produced a paper that rebutted an article on testosterone and risk-taking in men vs women, a few weeks ago, that I showed her, although it wasn't peer-reviewed. I got you. It's called psychometrics. Standardized ways in which to measure psychological variab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:41 AM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides How am I trying to "reflect" the debate? The initial topic was "stay at home dads should be a thing." Your response was "but the women are more likely to be beaten." You don't consider THAT a "reflection." My response was "but that beating is outweighed by the fact that children are 5x less likely to commit suicide during a divorce." You consider THAT a "reflection." So fine, my full answer is: ""If women are more likely to be abused, that is outweighed by the children being 5x less likely to co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 04:38 AM
1	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Men do get 50/50 custody when they put in 50/50 effort. You would be shocked at how many don't even bother to show up to custody hearings. Yeah, self-selecting group fallacy, they don't show up because they think they will lose, not because they don't want to take care of the kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTDff_kNU5c That's not JUST a YouTube link, there are two academic sources at the bottom, if you need like a dozen sources: https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 04:24 AM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides And half of all normal marriages end in divorce, and I repeat, the simplest way to get a single father instead of a single mother in the event of a divorce by the courts is to have a stay-at-home dad, I'm not talking about single parents as an off-topic distraction; I'm saying these women getting beaten more often (if the stats check out) is worth it compared to the children being 5x more likely to commit suicide. Parents are supposed to be willing to DIE for their children; that means these wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:57 AM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Where's the evidence that it's because they are successful? What the hell is this argument? We have studies that women initiate domestic violence more, so men deserve equal services. Erin Pizzey, the founder of the world's first women's shelter in the 1970s, agrees	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:48 AM
-2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls The family courts are designed to benefit children, not men. That's how they should be. No, giving the father 50 50 custody is beneficial to the children, silly, and the courts don't do that. Warren Farrell has identified over 70 areas where boys suffer without a father, and the effects on girls aren't great either We might actually have evidence that the single father is better than 50/50, but we know that both beat the pants off single-mother families. You want to avoid this whole problem? Get…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:15 AM
0	The root of misogyny is jealousy. You've never heard an anti-feminist say "feminists say women need safe spaces, and that's misogynistic because it implies women are weak" or similar? That is feminism making misogynistic arguments for women's rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:43 AM
1	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Alphas, Betas, and Guy whose not trying to get laid but I'm going to push a rape culture on them, beacuse that's totally not a sign I'M trying to get laid lol..s: Theorizing the Masculinities of the Manosphere Sent to the honey badgers as a show suggestion topic, they covered the "male fertility crisis" paper I sent them two weeks ago, but this is too huge for me. Show me quotes and percentages that I can sink my teeth into What I want to know is: -How did they define entitlement objectively -Ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:40 AM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides The only reason single fathers do better than single mothers is because they have more money and live in better neighborhoods and thus the kids go to better schools. No, from medium: "It’s popular to say that because single mothers are more likely to be in poverty, it must be economic differences that explain the data; however, studies have found that economics does not explain it, it’s the same story even if the single mother is not in poverty… Further issues with the economic link can be found…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:16 AM
0	The root of misogyny is jealousy. Yeah see, you DO believe female kikimora should "do as they are told," just only in specific areas under specific conditions	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:24 AM
3	The root of misogyny is jealousy. I won't "do as I'm told" when I become a stay-at-home dad with everything, just if it's specifically "actually do your kikimora craft asshole" (cooking, cleaning, parenting) yeah she's allowed to tell me to do that if I slack off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:20 AM
0	The root of misogyny is jealousy. If you believe that misogyny runs society, then feminists should be making misogynistic arguments for women's rights. Which they already basically do, so women do want to fuck misogynists when they fuck male feminists	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:08 AM
2	Invest in artificial womb and girlfriends and sex dolls Yeah you still need an egg donation for an artificial womb to work. Scientists have made zygotes out of two sperm cells, but it's extremely expensive (like how scientists actually are able to synthesize small amounts of gold, like alchemists always wanted, but it's not economical) and it probably has problems compared to a natural, real egg. Like waiting until you're 40 to have kids increases risks of autism and schizophrenia, we will probably find artificial eggs have an increased risk of somet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:00 AM
–	Why woman have such high looks requirements in dating? Yeah exactly, she has that biological urge even though it's heavily mitigated now due to modern medicine. Many biologists believe that the thing that separates humans from every other animal is the fact that humans are the only animal that has sex in private, thus fathers end up raising children that are not their own. That doesn't mean paternity fraud is cool. Similarly, pregnant cavewomen really needed cavemen to be on the ball, that doesn't justify a huge slavery cult in the modern day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 12:45 AM
2	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? I mean, the whole manosphere movement is explicitly men expressing feelings: entitlement, Citation needed, or explanation needed that it's a bad thing. Men should feel entitled to a 50% custody right, or their forskin. resentment, Citation needed, also see Feminism anger, https://youtube.com/watch?v=NoOnAgJn35k horniness. Only one that I knwo of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5dj5x_g4Lk Actual esearch shows that some men have a harder time being vulnerable because they think it's emasculating.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 12:28 AM
2	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides So do you believe everything Allison Tieman tells you No, because she's called me incoherent a bunch of times. or comparing more sources outside of your bubble of beliefs What are you talking about, half our content for 12 years has been responding directly and in depth to feminist materials, so we get exposed to opposing views all the time in the course of that. I suggested this feminst paper I found to Allison 2 weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZuMJq4yO20 So yes, I leave my "bubble" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 11:36 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides So how have YOU contributed to society or are you just trying to take credit for what others have done? So you admit that other men have indeed done those things and have value? So what entitlement we are talking about, or is that just total projection? I get the vibe your going for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy19YmQHHJU but it doesn't fit, because you are asserting women have more value than men for.... what exactly? Surrogate mothers are 80k, does every man who have more than 80k have val…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 11:30 PM
–	Why woman have such high looks requirements in dating? No, because their role was guaranteed, way to invert the point. Males died more than females before modern medicine saved women from the most dangerous aspects of motherhood; that was men's sacrifice. Oh and btw, modern medicine has saved women from the most dangerous aspects of motherhood I'm so sick of this "she gets preg and you don't" bullshit, a surrogate outside the USA is 80k, most fathers contribute more than 40k per kid in most relationships. She's not the parent that keeps the child …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 11:20 PM
–	Why woman have such high looks requirements in dating? So who will you be attracted to when you're 60? 30-year-old guys who are not interested? Because the whole point is, you bond with someone while you're both attractive to each other, and then the history you have together keeps you together after you are both ugly due to age. Whereas people who are 20 NOW are fucking each other in fox costumes, that costume will look exactly the same but you know there's love at the other end of it <3	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 11:13 PM
–	Why woman have such high looks requirements in dating? NO, somebody needs to raise the child after that, and men are better suited aside from breastfeeding. We have the most resource intenstive offspring on the planet, we wouldn't have survived if we didn't have uniquely involved fathers, do you know how the gay uncle hypothesis work? Source & link: The Decision Lab – Inclusive Fitness (reference guide) https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/psychology/inclusive-fitness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection Also you're demonstrating WHY mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 10:57 PM
–	Why woman have such high looks requirements in dating? So what are you gonna do when you're 60? My answer is fursuits unironically	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 10:45 PM
0	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Yeah, and how she should swallow all of that for the benefits to the kids if there's a divorce, turning into a single father household instead of a single mother one I'm sorry, I've seen how stubborn people are and how stupid people are, now I'm VERY suspicious of women who DON'T want to reverse, like they honestly care more about themselves than their own kids	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 10:24 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides That’s because SOME men provide value. It’s too bad most don’t. Women are a net tax drain, and men are net taxpayers Also, 95%+ of the people who build and designed your house, the people who farm to make your food, the people who built the computer/phone you are using to spew this shit	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 10:19 PM
2	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides No, I have no idea what you mean. We have research indicating that men handle loneliness better than women do. Female MRA Allison Tieman claims that the loneliness epidemic is gender neutral and actually impacting women more, and laughing at them over it. And cite any stat you like on how many women regret never having kids in their 60s vs the other three categories. That's why I'm not afraid of a matriarchy if the whole world went stay-at-home dad + female breadwinner. There have always been "l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 09:57 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides And 50%ish of all marriages end in divorce IF a divorce happens, it will turn into a single father family instead of a single mother one IF you start with a stay-at-home dad and a female breadwinner Not only will stay-at-home mother families turn into single-mother families, most of the time, "equal" relationships, or "she worked but took care of the kids more often," or the 20% of births that happen to couples who are broken up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 09:47 PM
0	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? Pretty sure feminists are more likely to be against circumcision than nonfeminists. Yeah if it's "feminists vs nonfeminists," sure, if it's "feminists vs MRAs," absolutely not And the difference is, most of the nonfeminists who aren't against it don't claim to support gender equality	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 09:31 PM
1	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? But we have evidence that the whole "boys like to cry alone vs girls" thing might be partly biological too, we are the only surviving ape (and one of only two surviving animals) to have sex in private, so humans are supposed to have a weird relationship with privacy sometimes like that	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 09:29 PM
2	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? Does the success rate suck? Social circle involves getting 3 to 5 guy friends, rising in status over the guy friends, and hoping compatible women appear. Everything else is also hoping you find compatible women. I need "vegetarian" and "lets me be a stay at home dad to our future three biological kids," I can find that if I do 1000 cold approaches in New York City, I can't find that if I try finding 10 women via friends or clubs, and of course, dating apps are a joke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 08:13 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Why does it have to "high earner?" Why is everyone's idea of this stuff a woman who earns 110k? It can be a woman who earns 50k and a man who earns 30k (when he's not a stay at home dad) and they move to bumblefuck Kansas to make a stay-at-home parent (or starting a family at all) affordable	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 08:01 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Oh, and this is the studyt this news article is referancing: https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/236256/1/dp14225.pdf This study is non-criminal justice-based, and DID adjust for a leverage sailecncy bias (basically a self-selection) bias, which is impressive, but we still have a 50% to 70% non response rate, which... kinda sucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 07:11 PM
–	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Dude fuck off with this shit. Children from single-mother families are 5x more likely to commit suicide when they come from a single-mother family vs a single-father family, and Warren Farrell has identified 70 areas in which boys suffer without fathers, and mothers are 55% - 75% of parents murdering the children. And the simplest way to get a single father in the event of a divorce in court is to have a stay-at-home dad. Why the fuck should anybody care about the gender that HAS shelters *suppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 07:01 PM
3	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides And if alimony, custody, and child support are in my favor, she can try that? Single fathers + dads-new-girlfriend types are way less abusive than single mom + moms new boyfriend types, and just like how body count is less of a detriment for a man (in dating) single fatherhood is less of a dating detriment than single motherhood: Single fathers are more likely to be living with a cohabiting partner (Pew data: 41% of single-father households vs. 16% of single-mother households). https://www.pewre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 06:42 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Yeah, so "men's protection" in these rels is achieved with flying colors as the female breadwinner is (supposidly) one of the least abusive catigories Like, I'm sorry, do you want the gender that is taken seriously by the criminal justice system, DV system and has shelters and services to be the ones abused, or the gender that doesn't? When rels in general having women agressing more often in domestic violence?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 06:31 PM
2	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides How is it any different with the genders flipped?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 06:23 PM
1	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides Studies show that the child is 5 times more likely to commit suicide in a single mother household than children from single-father households, 9 times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape, 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home. Single-mother households also account for 70% of all teen pregnancies, and 55% to 75% of children are murdered by moms instead of d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 06:20 PM
-1	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? Yeah, when you were single, you could have worn your damn ring, instead of insisting on a "no cold approach" rule protecting you Sorry, but this is solipsism; you're not trying to sort out rules between men and women in general; you are just making it about yourself. Then, you project that solipsism onto me with your last comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:29 PM
0	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? It means you can wear your damn ring instead of telling 3.5 billion men they have to meet women via anything else. Like I'm sorry, non-red pill people started by saying "you can't date your co-workers, because the job relationship can be impacted by it even if there is no leverage" Everything that's NOT cold approach has that same problem, if it's a social circle you could lose your friends, if it's church you could be ostracized, etc If it's a dating app, those are jokes collapsing into informa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:16 PM
-4	Talking to women is impossible. Why? You're approaching a stranger right now	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:09 PM
0	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? Do you not know that some single women wear rings just so they don't get hit on? Some of them make it a real wedding band, some of them make it a right that looks like a wedding band at first glance but isn't one, to screen out guys who aren't smart enough to tell the difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:04 PM
-2	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides We already have data on this scenario. The female breadwinner still ends up doing the majority of household chores and childrearing For starters, there was a "study" that found men still do fewer hours of housework when men and women are both single. People were strangely using it to shit on men on Twitter, but that might actually prove that men do fewer hours because they are more efficient at it. (but we can throw that "study" away entirely, as it literally was a poll created by Clorox for an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:02 PM
0	It's not "men act, women are", it's "men's skills are recognized, women's are taken for granted". Women literally get paid by husbands just for raising children	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 04:19 PM
-3	Where is it ok to "cold approach" woman? Well a married woman shouldn't be, but what is the problem with it? There's a difference between ringing your doorbell and breaking into your house. I mean a ring/dot on the forehead should fix this	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 04:17 PM
0	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? uhh data needed, I can't find it now, but the other day I was looking at evidence that men stay in abusive relationships more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 04:04 PM
-2	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? I mean that's not the only reason, every time we talk about family court it varies wildly by state, let alone country, and I'm pretty sure women initiate more in courts that don't have this problem too, so it's not the only factor	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 03:48 PM
0	Question for bluepill: Why do feminists say men have problems expressing their feelings, when men are known for being more direct and blunt then women? They would always love to ghost or "quiet quit" relationships by basically being a bad boyfriend until you decide to end things Off topic, but that is why you don't make it a detriment to be the person initiating a divorce in court, because then they are incentivized to do stuff like that. Like how you get severance if you are fired, but not if you quit, so then you have all sorts of plot lines in Dilbert and elsewhere about people walking around offices naked etc trying to get fired https://www…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 03:40 PM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Huh? They need to recover not do more. What the hell are you even talking about? I don't know, I assume some women going through postpartum might need a distraction, some women might need to be left alone, as an individual thing Also you think a woman with a newborn baby has nothing to do??? If she's one of the 14% who does not breastfeed, and she has a stay-at-home dad (likely a lot of overlap there), then not really I don't encourage women not to breastfeed (but I will allow her to decide not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 02:20 AM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about They aren’t dying from sex Neither are women when they have birth control, abortions, and tubual ligation. the reason a lot of women don’t die having a child is because they’re already at the hospital when they give birth. I mean, without even pulling up "at home birth" statistics, which are made safer by regular doctors' visits alone, again, she can have the last three months or similar off When a mother gets pregnant, she gets more aggressive, and the father, otherwise mirroring her pregnancy,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 01:35 AM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Depends on her pregnancy some women work fine many do, others can’t. Yeah, so let's say we are talking 2.5 years average? Just to account for individual variance? At three kids yeah, that's 7.5 years out of work, which is not good, but then teh stay tat home parent of any gender is looking at about 12 years after the youngest is in kindergarten, and THEN not working summers (or dumping the kids in summer camp, which I don't think is great but I'm not sure. Summer school was not optional at my hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 01:09 AM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Yeah, and what is a father supposed to do if he wants to "adopt" out? You're not actually addressing the whole "mothers are implied to have 100% adoption rights" and "fathers don't have to pay if the child is adopted out" angles. The mother CUTS THE FATHER OUT of EVERYTHING other than "you have to pay child support." You are right; that is not adoption, hence the father has no adoption rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:01 PM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about So how the fuck is adoption supposed to work? Adoption is literally "abandoning the child," it's just that someone else agrees to pick up the tab first. Again, you guys pretend "best interests of the child" is financially incentivizing the single mother situation, when single mother families are 4x more likely to have the children committing suicide and adoption is fantastic for kids in comparison	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 01:15 PM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Yeah, that's the privilege he gets for the trade-off of having to pay for them. It's not fair, but it's not entirely one-sided and arbitrary. You want women to be in charge of all of this shit WITHOUT paying a dime, which is kinda worse Interesting you are talking about remarriage. If a man domestically abuses his wife "too much" / "the wrong way" in the Middle East, she is sometimes allowed to demand her husband put her up in a separate house, and if she never divorces him, she is allowed to do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:32 PM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Yes, dude, "before the 1920s" includes thousands of years before the tender years doctrine, you think that women weren't allowed to work prior to tender years in the 1850s, but were by 1920, or what? And "quoting proverbs" is fine, ask a feminist about marital rape through the ages, they will say "well, this bible passage condones it, therefore it must have been prevalent," this is the same argument, the bible celebrates working women, so it was likely prevalent You are ignoring that a literal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:26 PM
–	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about On what planet? Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYlw_ly6R5M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinster Proverbs 31: Verse 13: “She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.” Verse 16: She buys a field and plants a vineyard “with the fruit of her hands.” Verse 18: “She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.” Verse 24: “She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.” We just abolished child labor in the 19…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 06:17 AM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Why is a financial abortion needed for that? It's a system where the woman CAN dump the child onto the man; the man isn't allowed to dump anything, he is at the mercy of a random roulette wheel And again, if SHE has to pay child support to him if he accepts instead of the child going to an adoption pool, she is financially incentivized to keep the child and harvest dad's support. I'm the only person ever talking about financial incentives in these child support debates, and they are like the mos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 05:48 AM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about That would mean that feminism has even more respisibility for not fixing the draft and circumcisoion then? I mean feminism got women the right to vote in every country but 4 in 150 years, the sounds like they very easily could have solved everything else by now, and it only gets worse if tehy also got every country to swallow tender years. When people say "Coca-Cola is available in every country except two" people usually impart a responsibility onto Coca-Cola when they say that	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 05:09 AM
1	If you're a regular, average guy, you don't need to relate on dating apps It's not low pressure; if I fuck up with her, I could fuck up my friendships with the guy friends and all the other women, too That's why it sucks: you have to get 3-5 guy friends, then rise in status of the other guy friends, then hope the women that pop up are compatible. If I have to make 250, or 1000 cold approaches (because one guy said he had to make over 1000) i will eventually find what I want: woman who lets me be a stay-at-home dad, vegetarian (only because I can't process meat) …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:09 AM
-2	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Why would you want the pregnant one getting hit in the head with a crane?? Can she not work while pregnant? 9 months at least is a fine break to minimize everything The opposite: when I was a custodian, the first thing they had us do was actually mover shit, throwing away heavy old lockers and getting into accidents lifting them. One of the bosses would have the men hide from the real boss for 4 hours a day (government job) and the girls would just sit in the girls changing room the full 8 hou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 03:37 AM
-1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about whereas pregnancy is inherently risky by nature. You mean "intrinsically by nature" as in "without modern medicine..." Actually, no, males died more than females evolutionarily with no modern medicine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26181346/ Modern medicine just makes the gap even larger, so what are we comparing preg to? Because I think the rare school and post office shootings might actually make those jobs more dangerous than preg Also how can a stay at home dad be a good provider? How can a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 03:30 AM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about You do not make sense to me. I do not think the men who fall short of picking up their share of the financial load of caring for children should get away without picking up the reproductive load. Yeah, "pick up a load" as in "benefiting women, so they have to carry less of the load," like making them take 50% custody instead. This just adds a load to men; it's a negative to make people equal without an actual positive for women Do you mean men will carry 50% of the children from now on? I don't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 02:17 AM
0	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about What is best for the child is best Tautology. Those early months if the mother's are breast feeding are best mostly with the mother. The father gets to slowly move in and when the child will stay with him and not be unsettled, then it should be 50/50. Sure, if it were JUST an exception for breastfeeding that would be fine, we have talked about that before https://youtu.be/tTvY8Yee78g?t=3019 but: We can argue there is no reason for 50% if she is not breastfeeding, she can haul ass to the coal min…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 01:57 AM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Whoever children end up with should be in their best interests. The best intrests in the child are 50/50, and a basket of vetted good adults of both genders involved, so aunts, uncles, grandparents. So it SHOULD be assumed 50 50 is in the best interest of the child UNTIL abuse is proven But if you give men the option of "50% custody or pay up," you financially incentivize involved fathers so that's best right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 01:09 AM
0	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about For starters, this is some people's idea of artificial wombs, just without forcing them on people. And people are saying transwomen may be able to get transplant uteruses in the next 10 or 20 years, it would be fantastic if transwomen were able to deliberately install an ability to get pregnant later, instead of people getting vasotomies/tubal after they've finished having kids. I would have stayed with the transgirl who took my virginity if that was possible instead of having to move on to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:37 AM
0	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. The "answer" is that women are not lesser. But men can be? That's why Allison calls women's right to vote "feminism's first act of female supremacy," because it didn't come with the draft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyIQJT8x1vg Not the case. are given at least joint custody 70-94% of the time. Oh, I'm tired of this. I really need to add fathers' rights to my website infodump after I took my glitchy wiki down https://youtube.com/watch?v=xTDff_kNU5c https://glennsacks.com/column.php?id=149 htt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:12 AM
7	Most men here don't just have dating problem, they're severely under-socialized in general. I would rather have someone treating romantic and social questions as logic puzzles than someone treating logic puzzles like math, science etc as subjective vibes matters	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 10:57 PM
-2	If you're a regular, average guy, you don't need to relate on dating apps So a cold approach beats social circle then? Because social circle I think has that same problem, if a woman knows you via your friends, they can get hyper focused on flaws they would overlook.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 10:53 PM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Now the law is changed and women get custody for children up to 15 in most cases. Rip Saudi Arabia, I guess. I'm ok with the driving ban being gone, but that sucks There are still like a dozen other Islamic theocracies where men get the kids instead of (basically) the most Americanized one	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 09:59 PM
-3	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Puhlease only she is risking her life and health for the child. Men who had to pay child support, winding up as part of the "80%+ of work fatalities are men" statistics, were risking their lives for their children, and there are way more of those men than women dying of childbirth, at least with modern medicine If men are better providers, that's why they shouldn't do it by default. You want a stay-at-home dad + female breadwinner, because if the mother gets beamed in the head with a construct…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 09:26 PM
0	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9LSEVtBRvk	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 09:13 PM
0	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about If you pay a surrogate 80k and it’s her egg—-she still has unilateral rights over the baby. , if the woman changes her mind Then that's it's own problem that sounds like it needs fixing, like how we have a few cases of sperm donors being made to pay child support as an outlier court weirdness You can scream eQUaliTY all you want but pregnancy even in and especially in surrogacy is always treated as a special category Yeah, so it's an open appeal to the idea that you don't have to be consistent, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 09:05 PM
2	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about The more you guys go off, the more I think it's a good idea to install uteruses in men. Let's make things equal. Hormone swishes, childbirth (definitely a C-section) breastfeeding, let's give you guys the whole of it. Or just find what women who are glorious enough to sell their bodies would charge for that, and we can charge your man that when you choose to have sex with him The answer to a woman who says "I'm a woman, therefore I deserve the planet for biology" is always just finding a woman w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:57 PM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Literally, I don't know what you mean, we have the most instensive offspring on the planet, so humans are defined by uniquely involved fathers. Are we looking at statistics or biology, or are we looking at one painter or Charles Bukowski type artist? How does the father have any adoption rights? When the mother adopts out, neither she nor he pays support, so this is another admission men aren't allowed to have 50% adoption say. They are not allowed to be an earth mover and say "the child will be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:46 PM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about In Saudi Arabia fathers have to pay for their children even if they don’t have custody Yeah that's it own problem, as far as I know, witches rarely get custody there tho a religious obligation You could call it that https://youtu.be/utyjmoHTr_0?t=1105	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:38 PM
1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about With the way things were in Saudi Arabia, how many of them could pay child support? Nearest living male relatives have to financially support female relatives there still, so you could be a 16 year old woman/girl who pays for it by having your 12-year-old brother engage in cross-dressing prostitution And those places have more women in STEM than Western countries because of the "gender equality paradox," STEM in Iran is like 55% female because they can't afford 1950s shit there Also, do you th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:28 PM
-2	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Part of why the kids of single moms fair worse is because the father abandons them and the moms are poor. That’s a huge factor. Women initiate divorce more, and we have data that women aggress more in domestic violence, and we have data that men stay in abusive relationships more, so citation needed. Also the paper abortion wouldn’t solve this issue there would still be single moms No, but 50% custody would, then throwing the mother or the father in prison for negligence if they fail to feed/s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:12 PM
-5	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about She paid with her literal body what the hell did he do again? He paid for everything It doesn't matter if she paid with her body; it matters if anyone asked her to. If I cut myself to protest circumcision, pro-circ people would say "I didn't ask him to do that and I don't care"	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 07:48 PM
4	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Why would you be charged 40k and not the full 80k? Because she equally chose to have sex. THAT's equality, they both chose to have sex, they both chose condoms/no condoms etc, so they should take 50% responsibility Prove a rape in court and then you get your 80k US wages are higher than international wages Yeah the whole problem is that California inflates the cost of top suggorates in the US with regulations, and suddenly people are paying 250k for an egg There are countries with higher wages a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 07:46 PM
-1	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Women couldn’t even fight for custody of their kids though right? Yes, that's the point. It was a bad system because "you don't have to pay if you don't take custody, but we're gonna make you not take custody," like saying "marijuana is legal, you just need a tax stamp" and then never giving out the stamp But the modern day is worse because it's "men have to pay because we're taking away their custody" They couldn’t even be in the workforce like men. Mostly incorrect, women worked for centurie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 07:16 PM
3	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Men would historically just leave the wife and kids abandoned and the woman would need to find a new man to depend on or live in the poorhouse. Evidence? The way it worked was, fathers only had to pay for sons until 18-21, they had to pay for daughters for life, until they got married, and then it would transfer to their husbands, and with a "nearest living male relative" system for emergencies https://youtu.be/6WSn7vTSGZI?t=6061 And alimony DID exist so this is all wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 07:09 PM
0	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. It's not "the way they have approached social reform," it's that they have always had the wrong answer, giving the mother majority custody in tender years vs giving 50%, giving women the vote without an equal draft, abolishing limits on women owning bank accounts and property, when non-feminists later were the ones who got rid of men being obliged to take care of women finically Now show me how feminism is about equality? On ANY discussion about "women are raped," mention that men are 45%-55% of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 07:03 PM
1	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. I heard CBT is worse for certain kinds of abuse and trauma, because they cause the victim to internalize the idea that they are supposed to blame themselves for it Then again, I have heard MRAs like Karen argue that victim blaming can be a good thing, because the alternative is a sense of hopelessness in saying there was nothing you could have done, and it's normal to replay traumatic situations in your head wondering what you could have done differently	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:56 PM
1	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Yes, most therapists believe that women are not inferior. The idea that that would be a problem is baffling. You know that not what antifeminists mean when they criticize feminism, they mean feminists' definitions of rape culture and rape apologia, patriarchy theory, the Duluth model of domestic violence, erosion of due process for men accused of rape, feminists who want to make the criminal justice system bias worse via femicide laws and abolishing women's prisons, national organization for wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:49 PM
0	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about It means that if men don’t have automatic financial obligations it wouldn’t make sense for them to have any automatic parental rights if they wanted to be in the baby’s life No this makes even less than the guy below is trying to explain to you Lots of pro lps people, let alone normies, say "he shouldn't have custodial rights IF he doesn't meet up with the financial obligations." But then, aside from income differences, the way custody-based support is decided on is that you pay for NOT taking…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:38 PM
-4	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about But why didn't child support exist for thousands of years before the tender years doctrine? Men originally got the children in a divorce, and women didn't pay a dime in child support for thousands of years. That's still how it works in Saudi Arabia, so the statement men in the West are oppressed in at least one area Saudi women are not, via child support, is technically a true statement. What a bunch of deadbeat women, abandoning their children like that (/s)	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:30 PM
2	Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about Why is this an argument for child support and not pregnancy support? Surrogate mothers outside the USA top out at 80k. Charge us 40k, then give us 50% custody and BTFO when children from single-mother households are 5 times more likely to commit suicide than children from both unbroken households and single-father households, 9 times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape, 20 times more likely to end up in pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:25 PM
0	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Except heterosexual men with tradwives	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:13 PM
3	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Yeah nice sources and data, show me how it trumps evolutionary theory, arguing that men heal through action better than therapy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yaH-DVbYQ Men should go to therapy, but it makes sense that they would need to change therapists a few times until they find a good one, given that most therapists follow a feminist bias?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 06:10 PM
1	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. That's not a problem with therapy. It's a problem with those men holding the expectation that it'll be pleasant, quick and easy. No one who succeeds in therapy has a good time doing it. They persevere in spite of the difficulty, bc the goal is more important. And that they need to screen out bad therapists and try to find a good one, please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isNckwtqDQg Worth saying that almost every tool gained in therapy is available online for free. I actually would disagree, un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 05:55 PM
3	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Most psych meds are worse addictions. Some of them "you are supposed to keep taking them until they start working," which basically means giving yourself an addiction to them intentionally, regular drugs don't do that to you. Then withdrawals are CRAZIER, people ACTUALLY hallucinating, etc., there was one guy coming off a 20 year xanax prescription who couldn't stop shaking. Seizures are common there too. Basically, anything the drug is designed to treat can be caused by dropping them, and they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 05:21 PM
1	What are red flags in men that women commonly miss? Is that the majority / is child support as a general practice misandrist? Irrelevant. When it's a death penalty argument, you don't get to say "only 200 people have died of a false conviction since 1970," you say one is too many. Up to 20% of births involve parents who are not romantically involved at birth, and we both know that doesn't turn into 50/50 custody are they sufficient evidence it should be disbanded Yes they are, because women didn't pay men child support for thousands of years be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:41 PM
2	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Then go try other medication? Women don't like our medication https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzcEG_JoVuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWifyHd9li0 We haven't established that they don’t actually want medication to fix their problems I just told you there's evidence that it causes much worse problems. Would you rather have a brother who is Billy Joel's "angry young man" or would you rather have him commit suicide/shoot up a 7-Eleven? that make people noy want to be around them? No, that IS the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 03:48 PM
0	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. therapy, Yeah, therapy is great and all, but people act like it's a cure-all for EVERYTHING when it's literally 1 hour a week. get medication Or listen to him when he says medication doesn't work for him? Psyche meds are completely evil, we have research indicating that meds cause as many suicides as they prevent, they cause disorders where people literally can no longer feel any pleasure whatsoever, and shut down sexual function, make you fat, etc https://youtube.com/watch?v=gK6CQqKn0d0 learn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 03:34 PM
1	What are red flags in men that women commonly miss? Do you agree that child support should be paid by the woman if the man was a stay-at-home dad? Because you have to admit, it doesn't make sense that the man should pay if she breaks up before birth with no stay-at-home-parents history established by either of them. When you say the man has to pay child support, you assume he doesn't have 50% custody. That's why it almost always ends up being misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 03:15 PM
1	What are red flags in men that women commonly miss? The "Men and women should be treated with equity" type ISN'T the common feminist. The common feminist is like the common/casual Christian: some good qualities, but if you press them, they will probably be homophobic, even if they aren't in the Westboro Baptist Church. Similarly, most feminists will push misandry because misandry is the default, something like "child support should exist"	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 03:09 PM
0	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? It’s NOT default for custody to go to the mother. It’s just more common for the father to not bother trying to gain custody at all. Most men who actually show up to the custody hearings actually do get custody. Oh and I didn't see this two days ago btw, this is very wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 01:32 AM
0	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? > He wants her to pay for everything from date one Where did I say that? I said I am fine going Dutch, I just worry about my oppressed forward brothers in Albertastan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfOoTa--C5o	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 01:13 AM
1	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? Polygamy sounds terrifying, imagine walking into a room as a man and four wives are all mad at you at the same time	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 12:34 AM
1	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? You are the definition of a mooch How? Let's say my mom dies tomorrow and I inherit this asset, and then use it like this in five years, am I a mooch? This is my mom improving her credit score for free. She has a debt and interest on paper, but it is 100% paid by me unofficially, which means she gets the better credit history for MY interest payments thank you very much, or do you suddenly think SHE should "earn her own credit?" 🙄 If it's about my wife being preg, sorry, but surrogate mothers ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 09:05 PM
1	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? Women in rural areas are often not interested in having a SAHD so you wouldn't be a big fish in a small pond, you'd be the fish no one bothers catching because you don't fit the aesthetic. Uh, no, for starters, it's "find a NYC woman to move from the city to a rural area with," the education and NYC work history we would take with us would make us big fish in small ponds. The women aren't fish or whatever. A child isn't gone if it isn't known to the father. By not having to put a name on the bir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 08:38 PM
2	What are red flags in men that women commonly miss? Basically, number #4 (edit) but expanded, if he's a male feminist and is able to look at the radical feminist narrative of "men are all rapists and abusers and monsters" and go "oh yeah, totally, I agree" Like I have met male feminists who say "straight white men like you and me are the problem," that guy can go be "the problem" somewhere else	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 05:53 PM
1	Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads? I know plenty of women who take their kids to day care; majority of career women would prefer to do that Because they refuse to look at (or ignore) the data on how daycare sucks? Free play is the best way for a kid to socialize in the first five years, not daycare. Expensive daycare has some educational benefits, but teaches rotten socialization. Daycare socialization sets them up for the next 13 years of school, where they learn how to be the best bully possible (so I guess it sets them up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 02:27 PM
0	People, especially women, will often push their personal boundaries to make their partner happy. So, war? No, I mean males dying more than females for our 300,000-year evolutionary prehistory and down into pre-human animals, due to a very obviously ingrained biological "protect the women" urge that everyone has. That's why men are more likely to be victims of street assault and murder everywhere; there's no reason to assume it was different then. Literally in the Bible, "kill the men, but keep the women/girls alive" War killed women too. There were gender neutral wars and genocides, and mal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/26 01:42 PM