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It's simpler than this, how many mens issues don't apply to the middle east, or 500 years ago? Almost none, it's not like men weren't circumcised, women were drafted, and women couldn't legally rape their husbands 400 years ago? The only real exception was child custody
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:01 PM

The data is never going to show an accurate representation of how many men would be neglectful if they were full time parents because men are so rarely full time parents unless that is the best available option. How do you mean? The data controls for the fact the single dads are less common then single moms. The proportions are still higher. Men generally don’t WANT full custody of their kids. Men don’t WANT the responsibility of being a primary caretaker. If they want that, they’re more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:11 PM

I;ve never seen you produce a data point, so no you didn't explain anything And again, the neutrality of neglect vs the deliberateness of murder. Conflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:03 PM

And the choices made by the mother to give herself more proximity and opportunity are not relevant because...? Single fathers do it less than single mothers, which adjusts for time automatically, so you can't blame time spent with the kid. I don't know how anything in porn is more objectifying towards women than blaming women's crimes on their literal proximity to something, jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:49 PM

Yeah, it's a self-selecting group fallacy too then, because this isn't a 50/50 feminist vs MRA sub. This is an 80%-90% feminist sub. Go on men's rights and ask this shit; you'll get the same selective perception. People who post on the subreddit are more likely to themselves remember men shafted by women than the opposite, and this sub is just the gender reverse We want DATA. We have DATA men get harassed more than women. We have DATA men are raped equally by woman as women by men. We have DATA …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:46 PM

Mom and dad are working to afford food, shelter, enrichment, and in some dogshit countries healthcare and education for the family. And these uncles and grandparents aren't; they are getting exactly the same benefit as a stay-at-home dad without earning an equal keep Again, imagine a country so poor that the grandparents and uncles *also* have to work, and you should get why this is stupid. Also, it's fucking traumatic to throw the mom back into work super early too. You know, the person who gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:39 PM

Or just "why does She does get pregnant and you don't. Complain to nature if you must, but the facts don't care about your feelings. She needs to heal. She needs to gestate. She needs to nurse. You can't do any of these things." not get said to the uncle or grandpa? The answer was this never made sense, but now that I've educated you that fathers mirror mothers, and uncles and grandparents don't, and that the trauma from interrupting that impacts not just dad and baby, but also mom, and that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:15 PM

oh im thinking of someone else still, anecdotal evidence fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:11 PM

What if you weren't financially supporting him? What if, for the millionth time now, he worked full-time whenever he was not raising children, and part-time when he was, and had a nest egg that allowed him to walk away, or a work history where he could resume work and fill a financial 50% at any time and simply chose not to? That man isn't "finically dependant" on you, he just doesn't feel he should cover all his expenses if he doing all the cooking, cleaning and parenting. Tell stay at home mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:05 PM

If both parents want to (and let's face it, it's more of a need to situation work), and the grandparents want and are able to help take care of the kids while the parents are at work, that's great. No, I'm sorry, it doesn't make any fucking sense. Mom and dad are working so an uncle can take hands on care. You can just have the uncle work and pay for a biological stay-at-home parent. We are all aware that due to things like how men psychologically "mirror" their pregnant wives and those kinds of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:59 PM

"Women have no right to rape men" "Wrong in the first sentence."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:54 PM

I mean neglectful deadbeat fathers aren’t uncommon. If fathers did the amount of parenting that mothers do, those percentages would look quite different. *sigh* data? Just as a steelman: men only neglect, women deliberately kill the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:47 PM
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Oh god
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:22 PM

I don't mean "it might as well be all women," I mean it might as well be all the women who hate stay at home dads It's fine to shit on 100% of women who hate stay at home dads dude, that's not all women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:02 PM

Not all of the women who hate stay at home dads? I mean who cares if we slander those bitches, might as well be all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:35 PM
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The trueness of one's truth is clearly defined by their vernacular inaccuracies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsTVhy7jnF8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:34 PM
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The execution, on the other hand, does not fill me with confidence. No data was furnished Having a non working partner is a risk It's the non working partners risk to take, and their responsibility to orotect themselves with a nest egg and work history
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:31 PM
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i didn't call you an intentional liar, only a "liar who thinks they are telling the truth" We can say you had a responsibility to tell the truth that you failed to live up to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:10 PM

And I didn't say it was all women, I said it was working women who want their parents to raise the kids... and hate stay-at-home dads
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:26 AM

Oh my apologies, but you do GFE or something I think you said? You are a "companion for men"? Because that is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:24 AM
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Ok, whatever, you can be one of the five female breadwinners on this sub who people don't believe exist including yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:23 AM

most families can't afford to have one parents stay home Yeah I refuse to believe that, because rural areas exist. (or at least, not for an extended period of time), You're supposed to work while your kids are in school (and perhaps part time on the weekends) but even here that part gets deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:00 AM

he is better suited to being a stay at home parent than me Yeah, it always comes down to individual variation; it's dumb to suggest women who don't feel they would make the best parent never happen to hook up with men who happen to be good parents , regardless of whatever the averages show
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:56 AM

What fetch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBU5dyv-Tjo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:54 AM

Weird how many sex workers have met tons of shitty people, and tons fo good people who in turn have met tons of shitty people Self selecting group fallacy <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:53 AM

Myself and my siblings and my friend are my evidence. Yeah anecdotal evidence. Don't ask me about when my father's first wife had custody of my half brothers before she died, and what it was like with my biological mother after my dad died. The single father in the middle was better than the single mothers easily I don't have to pay my uncle or my grandparents. They're free. Not even room and board. You don't have to pay a stay at home dad "room and board"; you have to pay 100% of the property t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:40 AM

No just look at me arguing with cake below man, she does in fact say she's "warning" women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:02 AM

Did you mean anecdotal evidence isn't uncommon or fathers being neglectful deadbeats isn't uncommon, when mothers kill the children 55% to 75% compared to fathers? I actually don't care about your answer, reply noitification off
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:59 AM

Or just chose a man who is on the same page and isn't demanding he gets to be a house husband from birth. Yeah, and their child can suffer because there are benefits to dual stay-at-home parenting, chemical changes in the child, dad, and mom, and benefits to a stay-at-home parent. Yeah fuck her, she can treat some other guys kids like that, be my guest: https://youtu.be/ZfUU5A8XpYU?t=5 But yeah, getting rich, and actually rich not "I have a mortgage" rich, is a better goal No it's not, it's a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:25 AM
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I think if my partner ever says she prefers a sex toy to me, I should leave her right? Is that what this thread is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:39 AM
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2x what? 2x minimum wage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boUlY3KrEKo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:29 AM

Because most people aren't rich dawg. You genuinely seem to be having issues grasping that fact. Most households cannot afford for both parents to stop working. Yeah, I hear this, and I hear other people say that they had a stay-at-home parent because they couldn't afford daycare or a nanny, so I don't want assertions; I want data. Here's my assertion: in 1990, my parents both lived in a major city known for being expensive, with the same government employer. All of a sudden, my dad got a transf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:37 AM
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Stop accusing me of it and forcing me to talk about it in responce
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:17 AM
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I'm supporting an equal relationship. We both work full time. We both do house stuff. We both do childcare. Yeah thats a form of equal relationship,, another form is one person does enough of one to offset the other. A dollar bill is equal to a dollar, but so is four quarters Sure. And that's five years of being a useless selfish burden. Five too many in my world. How? This guy could just bring a nest egg to the table equal to whatever he would earn if he worked during that time. Hence, you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:35 AM
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Yeah, did you read my post past the first sentence? This doesn't discuss income gaps I just told you I'm working on my own research. I've seen this kind of plebby data before; this is newsweek and not even a study
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:08 AM
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I was born around 1990, my mom around 1950, this was in the USA My maternal grandparents were Catholic, but my mom herself was/is an atheist; my father and paternal grandparents died before I could form memories
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:07 AM
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OMG, projection, studies show that daughters report liking real daddy incest more than sons like mommy incest, and I knew a girl in high school who was sent to an insane asylum for banging her dad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:00 AM
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Yeah, I said high-earning women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:58 AM

Oh, nevermind, I thought you said kikimora, not witches Yeah, I plan on a long-term relationship where once in a while I refer to my wife with my male friends at the bowling alley as my "witch," it's not supposed to be hateful, it's just kind of a "get me some more of that diarrhea soup" moment (family guy)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:56 AM

me: "Women, who when you say you want to be a stay-at-home dad ask you the impossible question, "what do you plan to contribute financially to deserve that?" knowing full well the whole point of a stay-at-home mom is that they don't financially contribute as much you: "no one has ever said this" me: "Dude, "what do you bring to the table" is like the classic question when you say you want to be a stay-at-home dad." you: "what the fuck are you ever talking about lol" Bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:51 AM
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I may not believe in gender roles, but I society does. Yeah I don't like the sound of that, "I won't be misogynistic towards women in STEM, but other people will, so women should stay out of STEM" logic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubt7AGRixXc&t=1395s For as long as the concept of masculinity and femininity exists then we also need to demonstrate healthy and non-toxic forms of it. Yeah I have no idea what you mean, if it's a stay-at-home dad it demonstrates men can be nutrurers; if it's a mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:35 AM

sigh, you can already get private workers comp. That also caps out at a third. Cause they don't want you to game the system. Because of government regulations, that's not privatization This is why privatization gets a bad wrap, because people look at shit like the UK's "private" postal disaster where the government gave state monopoly powers and a billion regulations to one "private" postal company and say "privatization has failed" when it's a disaster it is literally explain by having better f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:29 AM

I'll try telling you this again: because a man who works is also meant to do those things on top of working. So you are offering to do significantly less than the working man. No he's not, for starters, assuming cooking three meals a day, he is missing at least one meal, while literally being not in the house cleaning, parenting, or outside gardening 8 hours a day. Like the dude is literally not in the house 8 hours a day if he's working, and you don't understand that one has to come at the expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:16 AM
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Because in real life, most people understand that mothers would ideally stay at home with their newborns for the first few months. Yeah, who said she wasn't? The idea is to shoot for dual stay-at-home parenthood during breastfeeding, and the stay-at-home dad alone just covers the other four years before kindergarten and summers after that. We're talking *both* parents not working for 1.5 years after the birth, doable in rural areas with lower cost of living, especially. Again *feminsts* cite *sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:14 AM
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Dude, "what do you bring to the table" is like the classic question when you say you want to be a stay-at-home dad. I've gotten it ten times. You answer it with "part-time work when raising kids, full-time work anywhere else" and they complain, "so your answer is nothing when she carries the baby you deadbeat" as if she was entitled to anything compared to what the kids are supposed to be entitled to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:04 AM
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Yeah if I was submissive as a cisman to a ciswoman I would prefer "good girl" to "good boy" sometimes, but I also might want "mommy" instead of "daddy" if I was dominant Still, the point is many high-earning women are uber submissive, both for "erotic irony" and because they are exhausted from the responsibility they have all they, women who are tired of yelling at people as high-level bank executives and just want to be spit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:46 AM
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I used it to describe men more than women. I first started using "Kikimora Craft" on the RevTrad subreddit as a flair for cooking, cleaning, parenting, and gardening, 99% of the time just recipies though. And I just said it was gender neutral because i want it used for reversing husbands too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:42 AM
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She does get pregnant, and you don't. Complain to nature if you must, but the facts don't care about your feelings. She needs to heal. She needs to gestate. She needs to nurse. You can't do any of these things. Yeah, so what are you saying? You're saying the man needs to do something to offset that, right? I'm asking you why "cooking, cleaning, and parenting" can't be that something. Because if he worked by cooking, cleaning, and babysitting in the free market you would agree that he would sudde…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:39 AM
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No, a kikimora is a folk monster that is actually a female housekeeper. I thought it would be funny if tradwives and reverse trad husbands started calling themselves kikimora in response to feminists calling themselves witches, in fact the Puyo series has a scene where the "witch" character and the "kikimora" character fight over a broom
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:23 AM
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cooking cleaning, parenting or gardening, like a tradwife or reverse trad man practices
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:19 AM
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No I said "female breadwinner with a fucked up incest daddy fetish," that's not talking about real incest unless you think I was supposed to make my future daughter my breadwinner somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:18 AM
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You think women who want a SAHH are somehow being talked out of it by other women? Yes, because that is the classic female MRA argument as to how feminism is misogynistic. Allison Tieman famously argued that she believes the fact that women in STEM in the West peaked in the 80s and fell after that is because of feminism saying "if women go into STEM fields, they will be misogynized" (the hyper-PC streak of the 80s being basically a prototype for SJWism 30 years later) And anti-feminists like Kar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:17 AM
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Um yeah, so you agree with me that haveing an uncle instead of a stay at home dad is dumb? And it's not "doesn't work," I've seen feminists say "erm actually, 60% of stay-at-home moms work, according to studies, they just work part time you misogynist," so you know how insulting it should be when you paint a person who *works less* so they can raise children only as somebody who doesn't work at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:05 AM
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Women, who when you say you want to be a stay-at-home dad ask you the impossible question, "what do you plan to contribute financially to deserve that?" knowing full well the whole point of a stay-at-home mom is that they don't financially contribute as much Or maybe they don't know; I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:01 AM
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I made a joke a bout a female breadwinner with a "daddy" fetish, because sometimes these women are submissive and everyone thinks they are femdoms
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:59 AM
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I'm not talking about incest, I'm talking about how many grown women I'm not biologically related to are interested in being submissive to a "daddy," and sometimes there is an incest fantasy component to it And nobody is mentioning incest in this thread, but you have a habit of responding with something totally irrelevant like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:59 AM
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However I wonder if the impacts of being "fatherless" is mostly down to both income I can pull up about 7 studies arguing that you can't chalk the better performance of single fathers vs single mothers up to income alone, like some people try to do and a lack of a male role model. If a kid has an involved uncle or grandfather I don't see the harm I don't know what people mean by "lack of a male role model," and how they can claim to oppose gender roles while they say that There are biological th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:56 AM
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've never ever once heard a girl or woman in real life express desire for a stay at home husband. Theres badgersonic and the woman with the blue snoo on this sub right now who actually are female breadwinners to SAHDs and say they like it that way, and pie-mart said she would do it for someone who matched her politically Most of the negative talk about SAHD comes from mothers who've tried the arrangement. No, it doesn't; it comes from people who were never interested because they don't think it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:40 AM

No it's not like that, it's like when you listen to porn audios and the girl says "fuck a baby into me and get me pregnant," that's not her getting off on pedo shit So it's not pedo if thoughts of her giving my grown children at 18 a college fund. They just have to be thoughts and not visuals, pretty sure it works that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:21 PM

More just a quick link I'll have handy the next time any female snoo anywhere turns "stay at home dad who works part time when raising kids, full time elsewhere, with a nest egg" into "guy who does not work at all and is a bum" so she can get the feeling of 100+ people in the comment section saying she's a strawman who deosn't exist It just also kind of sounds like a bad idea when I put it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:56 PM
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which caps out at what a third of income, hardly enough to say one income is a good financial choice. Yeah I'm an ancap who wants it privatized and then it would prbably be better, but again: nest egg Studies show that children do better base on household income overall. At the end of the day, income matters more in raising kids Ok, single fathers have more income than single mothers, and I can cite seven sources that argue single father being better is not explainable by income difference sooo.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:52 PM
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"Based on my anecdotal data, no"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:48 PM
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First, it's Pew Research that is wrong with their analysis, No I didn't say this, I said your own pew data showed men still do les housework when single. But also yeah, wage gap studies refuted 12 years ago had better sources than Pew then it's the Department of Labor Statistics who are wrong with their methodology. Yeah, wage gap studies refuted 12 years ago had better sources than Department of Labor Statistics Then the women who post this information also are wrong. No idea who or what you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:47 PM
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They log fewer hours because they cut corners or don't do them at all. Yes, men may spend less time doing the dishes but the dishes are still greasy. And you *definitely* have greasy dish data furnished by Pew So the women are lying by overestimating their work hours? Are men also lying by underreporting their work hours? Why? Why would men do that? They're not. They're both telling the truth. No, in fact, we have the chivalry hypothesis/thesis in criminology where female criminals are not viewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:38 PM
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I see no oppression in a stay-at-home dad not being expected to cover all of his finances
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:24 PM
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No the liability that comes with only have one income coming in and if something should happen to that income. We could talk about the SAHDs nest egg being used for that, or we could talk about how the literal breadwinner can cough up a nest egg for this. This is a problem people have when single, "you could lose your job," use unemployment insurance. The argument is, if men are the better providers in general, they should not be the default, because if the woman dies on the job suddenly, the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:23 PM
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there are patterns that people notice. Patterns are not anecdotes not all of them That's not a refutation of most, so ok but reality is because these guys are your competetion they provide a much better deal even for women who work. But that's not an asymmetry; women who work are also more likely to be chosen as stay-at-home moms. What is this logic flub? You're saying "men who work are happy with it as long as a woman takes care of the house, but those men are your competition for women who wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:18 PM
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I'm fine with those changes. You've gotta live in society eventually, and as a homeschooler, I'll say the sooner the better. Ivory towers just lead to different damage. Evidence for this "different damage" and what ivory towers? We're talking about people who sometimes say they couldn't afford daycare This is just trash. I am NEVER giving my kids psychotropic drugs like Ritalin, etc. I am NEVER circumcising them, and I am NEVER going to make daycare a first priority. I don't even like them going…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:12 PM
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Anecdotal evidence. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:51 PM
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And the dad wants to raise the kids and you say "fuck you, she gets pregnant and you don't," You're leaving that part out Simple question: why should dad and mom provide financially so an uncle can have hands-on care, instead of just... dad or mom providing hands on care?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:50 PM
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and it doesn’t mean anyone thinks a stay-at-home parent contributes nothing. A stay-at-home dad can pull his weight and still not be something every family wants or can afford. You’ve decided these women are ashamed of men who don’t work, then written several paragraphs arguing against a motive you made up. No, it is actually several people who I was arguing with. You might not view it that way, but these people did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:48 PM
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What things? And who is this "man who does not work"? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vjuqfs/question_for_red_pill_what_are_some_direct/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:47 PM

I get really hot when I think about dirty talking a high-earning woman and actually getting sexually around when she or I talk about how she going to pay for my children to go to college etc Everybody shitting on stay-at-home dads is asking what they do for *the mother* financially; they don't understand that it's not gold digging if the goal is to secure money for *the children*
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:43 PM
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I'm not gonna lie, you wrote way too much for me to wanna respond to. I'm just too lazy for it. Yeah you said elsewhere that I'm a dishonest debator for skipping a very specific data set that you refuse to address, and I'm assuming this is "well he said he was skipping, so I get to skip him whenever I feel like it" The ultimate reason you get a man is both love and survivability/ resources. A stay at home dad isn't useful for the latter no matter what you say. So you don't support equal relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:39 PM
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Paternity leave is him working. He has a job. He's paid during that time? Not in the US, and I don't want any leave forced by government way too much stuff here and most of it nonsense YOU JUST COMPLAINED ON ANOTHER PART OF THE SUB THAT I SKIP PARAGRAPHS BECAUSE "I'M A DISHONEST DEBATOR." The only answer needed was this: "You need dad to avoid the chemical changes associated with daycare." Why is ANY other answer better? And why is it better for uncles to raise kids so mom and dad can work, rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:30 PM
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-we have data that men also do less housework when both are single such as from pew housework data itself that is usually cited, thus potentially indicating that men log lesser hours because they are more efficient -all of the data is self reported when we have a bout a half dozen psychological biases against men (including internalizable ones) that could explain it, and we have studies specifically that women are more likely to overestimate housework when women interview them instead of men -we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:20 PM
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we don't like the liability that comes with it. You mean the liability that comes with doing it without a nest egg to protect yourself in a divorce that was always your responsibility to build in the first place? I think what I'm seeing are the faces of those "most people have less than $100 in a bank account" statistics, and it's sad, because that is mostly a skill issue in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:55 PM
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Yeah SAHDs dont need to be compensated either; they just shouldn't have to pay all of their own expenses if they practice kikimora craft If these grampas raise these children, they never try to factor in how much time they spend in the house and then demand a % of the property tax or rent, and if these people cook, they don't pay for the food If it's a stay-at-home parent with no nest egg and you don't switch with them and let them work part time too, we *can* talk about some sort of actual fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:51 PM
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Can you take your thumb off the scale and stop exaggerating men's contributions when we can prove otherwise? You're not proving anything until you address the 8 (i think I can bump it up to ten now) fallacies in the data You and Look are the first people on Reddit where I actually skip paragraphs of your posts, because I just see that it's about the data, not about the fallacies in the data, and there is no point. It's not hard to get five or so red pill people responding to you that "it's becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:45 PM
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Im not the one with the daddy fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:26 PM
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my dad suck ass tho so in any scenario had he asked to be a stay at home dad or husband my mom would've kicked him to the curb and it would've been BETTER without him. You mean he was better as a workhorse? Or you mean he was just shit in general and that would have been an excuse to get rid of him? Why is everything anecdotal? this is the reality of most women No it's not dude, lol, most men are good, useful, and brainwashed into the vagina slavery cult you support I mean that doesn't make them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:25 PM
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the brother isn’t quitting his job to do that. So this kid is being watched 8 hours a day, and then he works the other 8 hours? Maybe could work, but how are grandparents better when the grandparents are already paying you via an inheritance, if anything? You should be paying for your stay at home mom or dad, they shouldn't be paying you to practice kikimora craft
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:21 PM
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here is one of many people https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vigrfp/comment/p2h0bxc/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:19 PM
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bad faith argument No, here is one of many people https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vigrfp/comment/p2h0bxc/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:19 PM
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I meant "you/she was never going to be the mother of my children if you were cool with chemical changes in my kids from daycare rather than a stay at home parent"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:18 PM
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More: Paying a stay at home dad for kikimora craft is unfair and unreasonable to these women Grandma watching the kids *when she's paying them via their inheritance* is fair to them Now lets reload and check out the comments, I have obtained funds to solve this vegetable nightmare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2sT-IKJUjQ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:13 PM
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2/2 "When my leave ends, he'll go on paternal leave and I'll return to work. " Oh, so why are you with a man who isn't working? Every stay-at-home dad discussion I've ever had, including this one, has involved me talking about a dad who worked full time and did 50% housework prior to the children being born, and after all the children are adults, and after school starts except summers, and STILL works part time everywhere else, and it's ALWAYS strawmanned as "a man who does not want to work." So…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:36 PM
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1/2 "He cannot have children and he cannot nurse them. Thus, everything else he does no matter how "money saving" or "useful" is going to be ultimately fucking irrelevant. Too much minor benefit, not enough major benefit. The entire plan is a bad plan; no amount of screening will change the baseline facts - cutting your leg off is stupid, and having a stay-at-home husband is stupid." Yeah again, you're still stuck on the fallacy of "nothing can ever make up for it; therefore, men provisioning is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:33 PM
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No one cares that you want to be a sahd that doesn’t trust, like or want women, You very obviously do, or you wouldn't be posting about that want with this level of anger
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:23 PM
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What part of the 1st amendment allows you to talk about a sexual assualt" and not just "make a sexual assualt accusation?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:41 PM
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Yeah but that's the point, what does it mean when feminism only idea of "nobody depending on each other" is an equal relashionship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:31 PM
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I can understand the data that says "what percentage if the population is gay" and "what percentage of parents are stay at home dads" etc aren't really interchangeable I dont understand what's wrong with looking at "a variety of scenarios" and applying it to my own "demand"? I actually only have like five requirements in a partner, so looking at "stay at home dads + 'a variety of scenarios'" makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:29 PM
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Yeah I guess, but we can also ignore people who ignore people's fair opionions as well as their unfair ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:20 PM
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I've never based my understanding of all men and all women on them, no,l
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:19 PM
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Sorry, but if I delete the "leaps of logic" part, this is actually really fun to re-read over and over again I hope "blam" is a reference to newgrounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJLsav-nDQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:53 AM
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How are my opinions not fair? I said we can ignore unfair ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:13 AM
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Yes, I take it back. And it was in responce to people who do believe that argument is valid when it comes to abortion etc Options don't need to be fair, they just also don't need to be listened to if they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:41 AM
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Yeah but your still having teh argument on their terms, "a man who depends on them" It's "a man who saved up a nest egg and has a bit of work history so he can put himself up independently if he needs to divorce and actually doesn't need her for anything," he just shouldn't be expected to pay 50% if he's cooking and cleaning and parenting And many people don't even need a nest egg and can shamelessly bail back to mom's house if they really felt like it, only need a job good enough to pay for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:21 AM
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The person who says this in every thread and then refuses to engage when you tell her about 8 fallacies in her data <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:17 AM
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So we're just going with "you are delusional for reciting your lived experiences that the woman in your life happened to be poor chefs?" You very clearly had a brainfart and are just bailing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:02 AM
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And again: I don't know why anecdotes aren't trumped by data, and I don't know why nobody has any response to my 8 objections to the housework data Do you have *data* that most people who post dubious stats in comment sections that scare women away from these relationships are burned female ex-breadwinners, or are they cat ladies? Badgersonic on this sub has a stay-at-home dad husband, and there's a BDSM female breadwinner with a stay-at-home dad here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:01 AM
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No, they can have their opinion; it's just that they were never going to give a fair opinion and that deserves to be noted I don't literally oppose freedom of speech or freedom of thought for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:54 AM
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Yeah dude, if you have the "negative right to be a millionaire," you don't have a right to actually be given 1 million dollars, or that's positive rights. You do have the right not to be arrested if, for whatever reason, some crazy millionaire decided to give you a million dollars for no reason. Similarly, if you have the "negative right to be a stay-at-home mom," you don't have a right to actually abduct a man and make him your breadwinner. You do have the right not to be arrested if, for whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:50 AM
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What.....? That's not how you use statistics. Stay are home dads are not 10% of the population. Or do you think 100% of the population has minor children? No, it is 10% of parents. I mean we can get into how not all gay people want kids etc but you can furnish *data* on this or speculation is fair either way And this is not about being a SAHD at any point in time. It's about having it as a demand for a relationship. You don't seem to grasp the difference between a couple making a choice for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:43 AM
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Society has certain needs--always had. You have to start with them. They are non-negotiable. No, we had 300,000 years of our evolution without a single program encouraging *or* discouraging any births. There was no "need" for any of this. Making sure these needs are met has ALWAYS entailed creating a ton of personal tragedies Yeah, like "we need a government to exist at all in the first place to give poor people food stamps" turns into "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" at the individual lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:32 AM
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Yeah, but the difference is, I can say "If I HAD to be a male breadwinner, here's what I would expect" or "If we had an equal relationship, here's how much she is *properly* owed financially for the fact that she carries the children and he doesn't, if you had to pin it to something" These people never answer the question "If I HAD to be a female breadwinner, I would..." because they never view these relationships as fair in the first place. There is no "well here's how you could wow me as a sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:14 AM
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What is the joke? Is the joke that I'm not doing anything useful? Is the joke that I would be "girly" when I'm a bisexual who's into crossdressing, and even went through a phase where I thought I was a trans girl for three months once?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:06 AM
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I was going to say "all the data I've looked at indicates I have better odds than if I were gay" but then I realized you actually didn't respond to that. You're claiming that I was delusional in figuring out that my mom was such a poor cook as to border on child abuse, so feminist women are even worse? Only because Emeril Lagasse and alton brown might casually identify as feminists in a random interview somewhere, I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:56 AM
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Because you don’t get view women as humans but rather as a resource to be mined, And when did I do that? I say she has to pull *her* weight if I'm doing the majority of the cooking and parenting. That weight can be pulled by just her not making me pay for 50% of the utilities, and a shared bank account with a debit card she pays into so I can go to the grocery store and buy the ingredients I use to make her breakfast, dinner, and brown bag lunch. How is she matching my $50k+ annual nanny value?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:50 AM
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No, this is me https://youtu.be/ofKrr7HpNZw?t=318 Show me a foodstuff this Nara has *invented,* like my 3D maple syrup and my original recipes, or Alton's "dirt" above, or his leek rings or a half dozen other things I always thought that Alton Brown + Ben Heck would make a gay power couple, with Alton Brown as a gay homemaker and Ben as the breadwinner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SlcVTfP4MA
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:32 AM
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You mean evrybody not MRA/Red pill on this sub is a sexually frustrtreated laughingstock? As in 90% of you? One woman on this sub said "I never cum now that my LTRs over because I am just too fat and nobody cares" Then there's this woman (edit wrong link) https://np.reddit.com/r/antifeminist/comments/1v9nox5/why_you_should_never_listen_to_accusations_by/ Then we have the epic tale of 50 male feminists who don't understand women finishing first, but really understand how a man could be a prematur…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:59 AM

Oh, so you absolutely don't have an argument then and are scared of my skills, my apologies, continue your coffee talk cope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:51 AM
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Their husbands are on the stay-at-home dad subreddit bragging about how they are *only* the stay-at-home parent and their breadwinners split cooking and cleaning 50 50 with them Those are the absolute Jedi masters of game, the men who are able to tame the hypogamous woman. I don't have that level of Jedi voodoo mastery; I have to find a woman who wants coffee made for her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:50 AM
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Yeah, we're just warning other women, honestly. No, you're not, because you're not telling them "screen,"; you're telling them "don't bother" Because again I am saying there are 8+ problems with the data showing men don't pull their weight. I am telling the female breadwinners out there, "hey, maybe you can find another stay at home dad who pulls his weight if your current one sucks," You are saying, "well if you wanted to be a female breadwinner no matter what, all stay-at-home dads are poor ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:29 AM
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so many missing leaps in logic Show me the leaps in logic. I spend paragraphs writing rebuttals to feminists' leaps in logic, they are ignored because "muh gish gallop." Feminists say "leaps in logic" and bail on actually proving it because I don't actually have any
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:05 AM
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I had to figure out how to cook onion rings from reading The Joy of Cooking and just swiping onion rings and store-bought breadcrumbs and just slapping the recipe together at like 10 because my mom would never cook anything, like one fish dish a week, and everything else was just her making Lean Cuisines and using a George Foreman grill for herself. She just started giving me cash for nothing but takeout at 13, and it took like 15 years to break that habit and cook for myself, lot of good *her* …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:15 AM
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No again, data please. Anecdotally, people tell me we can't afford one-income households anymore; other people tell me they had a stay-at-home parent cause they couldn't afford nannies or daycare. Otherwise, you get to tell me why the norm is mother custody if the average relationship is totally equal in income; the court should be handing out 50/50 custody if the average was two parents working and thus parenting approximately equally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:02 AM
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I have no idea who or what that is? Are you calling me gay? I do identify as gay, as a bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:00 AM
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Which divorces? Which studies? Studies that I'm working on proving income gaps of like 90k are unstable, not ones of like 10k-30k? If people think a male programmer who earns 110k bankrolling a kitty kat tradwive's everything is more stable than a marriage between a man who earns 20k and a woman who earns 50k in the boonies, they were always just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:57 AM
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I'm just getting so much material out of the subject, but I guess it makes sense since the controversy involves people not understanding specialization
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:53 AM
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Yes and the 8 problems I've idenfied also mostly apply to "most" studies I dont know what structures you want to support more people having kids, as a anarcho capitalist I dont want any welfare programs or forced paternity or maternity leave onto employers, I view an implicit system if "any stay at home parent not smart enough to build a nest egg should starve to death like a bitch" as an incentive against irresponsible people becoming any kind of parent in the first place Who has the savings to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:50 AM
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Yeah exactly, it's always people who had one acedotal experience about a bad stay at home dad, or a feminist witch who says "sorry but i get pregnant and you don't" or "sorry but im interested in anti natalist cat lady extinction" If you want anedotal ecidence, ask MRAS about how these relashionships suck for men? I saw a female MRA say that she knew three stay at home dads, and all three of them ended in divorce with abusive female breadwinners screaming at the that they were "not real men," on…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:34 AM
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What's delusional? Are feminists delusional when they say tradwives offer 50k to 150k of unpaid nanny labor to a relashonship? There is no reason a parent who has work at 9am needs to be woken up at 2am by a baby. There are women who have no problem bankrolling my 20k pleb expenses tops just for shit like that, sorry you don't earn enough to be one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:20 AM
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Anti feminist women like that are all over the place like stephan molyneux's wife, the woman who runs inkyverse, and the classic example of gail zappa (well, her husband was the first reverse traditionalist basically) I think I can find more anti feminist women into it than feminist honestly, feminists are the ones telling women they will be beaten if they enter into the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:12 AM
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OP is obsessed with normalizing his desire to become a stay at home dad. The sad part is that he’s already allowed to do that even though it’s not that common, but also not vilified. It is vilified; you just said the *desire* is not normalized. I'm supposed to find someone and be a stay-at-home dad if *she* feels like it as a female empowerment statement, or if I have a workplace injury. I'm not supposed to "seek" it That's why I don't trust the male maid studies; they didn't distinguish between…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:14 AM
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No, I have no idea why that would be an insult. I think it's more like, instead of "men hunt, women nest," it's more like "men hunt and women forage." Women are better at patterned behavior on average, things like being postal "clerks" (not people behind a desk, address-memorizing mail sorters), a ton of legal admin and HR type roles and being lawyers and paralegals. They *might* even be better computer programmers The insulting part is when I tell you that the top 1% fringe of those jobs will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:03 AM
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It's creating and maintaining a home. Women do it better. Just an assertion; explain, please. Alton Brown is my big example of the whole "men's unique inventiveness" in the culinary world, and he teaches you more than cooking; he basically teaches you how to run a kitchen, like in "frozen cache" and his storage tips When it comes to healthy development for the children, psychologists show that fathers are usually better at that than mothers So do you actually mean "frilly little pink things" whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:40 AM
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I don't want to hear you shitting on pastries for breakfast; donuts and waffles are pastries. I'm literally becoming a professional baker. Do you want to shit on my job more, or do you want to continue pretending I don't intend to have a career at all? If "you are what you eat," at least in terms of your body literally building itself from the food you eat, then she gets the feeling that I created her when I fuck her, and thus fulfill her fucked up incest "daddy" fetish like when I make her brow…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:23 AM
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Hong Kong study (requested) “Filicide (child homicide by parents) in Hong Kong” by Yuen Dorothy Yee Tang, Jessica P.Y. Lam, Amy C.Y. Liu, and Bonnie W.M. Siu. Hong Kong Medical Journal 2025;31:99–107 (published online ~April 2025). DOI: 10.12809/hkmj2310809. Full PDF: https://www.hkmj.org/system/files/hkmj2310809.pdf News summary: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3308979/mothers-more-likely-fathers-kill-their-children-hong-kong-study Key quotes and data (2003–2017, 81 filicide…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:03 AM
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Yeah children are better cared for by stay at home parents (of either gender) than the daycare implied by an equal relationship I dont think my future wife waking up to coffee the way she likes it and a pastry every morning is "just noise" though, some women actually are just blown away by a guy who makes his own mayonaisse from scratch
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:44 AM
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"I do believe that, at scale, one of the issues with both genders working is that women are, in general, better at becoming co-husbands than men are at being co-wives. " That would explain why women are notorious for up to 75% of them doing everything in their power to not return to work when a baby happens including asking the husbands to work more Not sure what you mean by the rest, but yes, im pretty sure men can cook and clean better than women can plug away at cubicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:38 AM
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When did I say "i hope she doesn't see i dont pull my weight?" Im saying "try to screen me," you'll get professional custodian experience in cleaning, and any woman who spends 24 hours with me will be in the orbit of three baked goods and two meals, like so much food I usually have to give some of it to neighbors for free And it's not "a 'rich' woman," i still can't get an answer from people as to whether people "can't afford one partner working part time" or whether women "become stay at homes …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:22 AM
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Yes I did raise new one, I totally refuted your claim that I'm not independent. If I repeated any claims it's because you never addressed my arguments of specialization and "i dont want the chemical changes in my kid assosiated with daycare" If you want chemical changes in kids you were never the mother of my children, you were always a child abuser in my eyes. Just like how if you wanted me to "equally" earn the same as your 110k female computer programmer salary with my like 70k max baker care…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:12 AM
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When did i say he should be forced to take custody? Just that they shouldn't be forced to not take custody either I can understand that stepfathers and moms new boyfriend types are more abusive than bio moms, but biological fathers are even less abusive, so I would like to know why we are saying "use statistics to argue you should never remarry" instead of screening new men. Because everybody expects me to screen for an abusive mother using a crystal ball instead of just bailing to a stay at hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:54 AM
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No they are not, does the "zebra crossig fallacy" not exist because you can't look it up in a book? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JUK7vWVLVo I really wish I could block you without getting banned, everything you say is simple contradiction without you explaining yourself at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:48 AM
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No they don't, and if you look at paid work too, men perform more work overall according to pew data It doesn't matter, I told you feminists shut down domestic violence shelters and oppose shared parenting and your only reply was "that's what you believe" so i was never getting a serious debate out if you, only sitcom quips People have changed my view and "educated" me on reddit, like made me realize I should go for a vasectomy instead of her getting a tubal after I am finished having children, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:19 PM
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Better odds than if you were gay? What? What are you talking about lol Stay at home dads are one in five parents, after you adjust for dads who fell into ot due to injury, sickness, school or retirement, half of all stay at home dads are choosing it, so one in 10 parents or 10%. LGBT people are, depending on the polls you cite, 7% or even 2% of the population. That what data from Pew shows. I guess you can say im asking for kids etc too but that means my odds are even better, since not all of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:09 PM
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What are you saying? Obviously I would be a husband and not a nanny, im just saying if im not a provider or an equal partner, that is the closes number you can put to the value There also supposed to be a savings in having your husband knock you up instead of going through the sperm bank process, why would you waste that? And I've heard women say that vibrators are better for pussies than humans, but I've never heard one say vibrator + buttplug beats vibrator + dude banging her up the ass I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:08 PM
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some high paying autistic woman to use your sperm to impregnate herself You mean I want her to consent to my creampie? Lol Feminists keep doing this; you say "I want biological children," and they are all "what? what even is that?" Then let you raise the kids and clean the house and stuff Yes. Some women can move millions of dollars around on pieces of paper, but they just can't find their fucking socks in the morning and make their goddamn coffee. They spend 24 hours with me and notice I produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 03:04 PM
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The statistic was "mothers kill children more than fathers." What is hard to understand about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:37 PM
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o.o People who believe certain "styles" of raising children are bad for kids based on scientific data?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:36 PM
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You are not independent. I would never date a man who can’t do everything I can do. He isn’t my equal. Your failure to thrive as a single person indicates a future failure to carry your weight in a relationship. How am I not independent? I have a career I intend to work whenever I'm not raising the children, and I will bring a nest egg so if *I* need to divorce, I can put myself up in an apartment with expenses until I can find a job again. If the bar for thriving as a single person is "not livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:33 PM
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Yeah, and the more I see shit like this on this subbreddit, I'm so glad I am taking the steps I am to protect custody, because Reddit proves people can get 50+ upvoted for a totally false accusation about you and you get 50 downvotes for simply saying "that's not true," like if these were people in a family court my life with literally be a witch hunt Literally because these women often self-identify as witches too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:02 PM
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Yeah, and a single parent is worse for the kid than 2 parents. If you can't get one other adult out of billions to demonstrate a romantic relationship with in front of your children, the child is better off not existing at all and for you to die without having ever reproduced. Feminists are notorious for creating boys that don't know how to deal with women via enabling single-mother households, this is just making it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:57 PM
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Where are they saying this??? Right here: If someone is seeking a sperm bank, I'm guessing they're in need of sperm. And they aren't looking for a relationship, just sperm from the sperm bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:52 PM
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BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T MY KIDS????? Those aren't kids that are giving me grandkids to keep me company when I'm deathly ill at 80? Omg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:51 PM
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Not every fallacy is a fallacy you can look up in a dictionary or logic book What can't I read? She never fired back, "those are not fallacies" she just bails when I mention the problems with the data
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:50 PM
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Go tell the feminist who told me a "one person cooks and another person cleans, and everything else is equal" system sounds great
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:48 PM
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The majority of households in America are not nuclear with a mom and dad and kids. That’s just not how family works anymore. Fallacy of conflating "is" with "should": we have evidence that 50/50 custody policies reduce divorce, so we certainly shouldn't have a single-mother majority. A nuclear family (including a gay one) is best; the only thing that beats it is involved uncles, etc., which is the problem, single-mother families are a greater problem where people want to raise children in bubble…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:47 PM
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It's not anyone's job to tell you what you want to hear lol Yes, but it is their job to only yell "fire" in a crowded theater if there actually is a fire. All the data I'm looking at indicates better odds than if I were gay, and nobody ever furnishes counter-data or says "actually I would tell a gay person they are out of luck too so I'm consistent," so I don't know why I should care what Reddit thinks There aren't many women out there who would pick a man who wants to be financially supported. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:42 PM
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Everyone knows smoking kills. It’s taught in elementary school. Yeah, schoolkids start at 4 with no info on smoking, then learn it's harmful in elementary school. Or sometimes people who are smoking at 30 see a new statistic on it that prompts them to quit And it’s irrelevant if you can cook, No, it is not; most *women* think that way, and then they actually have a guy baking a fresh pie for them in the morning after banging her, and then they call back Very few people *bake*, like homemade hamb…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:24 PM
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No, how? That would just be an example of how not all sexual selection is murder Are you saying I'm saying "baby murder is not murder because it's sexual selection"? WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:16 PM
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Yeah, so you're not anti the science that indicates these drugs cause as many suicides and violence as they prevent and they are no more effective than a placebo? After adjusting for the fact that pharma companies hide bad studies like the tobacco companies used to? You know what would happen if you said on this sub you were pro circumcision because "I'm not anti-science"? You actually don't get to just bail with "a majority of pleb doctors agree with me"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:09 PM
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Yeah it should be at their own, because adults should sacrifice (within reason) for the sake of children. That's why feminism is so disgusting even to many pro-choice-up-to-9-months people: it very clearly values adult women > children > adult men instead of valuing children over > adults, and that logic goes down the drain when talking about child support anyway And this is a false dichotomy; the three choices are "single parent," "be with a partner you don't like," or "die alone without kids."…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:05 PM
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Can't take the words of a subreddit full of people who have never had enough sex to have a woman finish first seriously... a forum full of male feminists who have never seen a woman finish first, but really really believe a man can be a premature ejaculator somehow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qklvh5Cp_Bs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:56 PM
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When he doesn't want custody, it would be better if the two families lived apart instead of alone. 90% of women will not fuck you if you live in your moms house instead of an apartment, will these women get less dick if they share a house with a divorced person? Because when the argument is "polygamy sister wifes can raise kids better than one women" it doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:54 PM
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The bible literally says that women should work, own land and trade in a market
/r/MensRights06/08/26 09:31 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSZzm36SnuY
/r/MensRights05/08/26 07:57 PM
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Smug Alana etc mostly agree with shoe; they kind of are parasites, honestly, but I dunno, something about shoe always wants to make me keep her at arms length
/r/MensRights05/08/26 07:15 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlana https://www.youtube.com/@LeaflitAsari You can usually just search on youtube "vtuber shoeonhead react" or "vtuber dadvocate react" and a bunch will come up
/r/MensRights05/08/26 06:45 PM
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there are a bunch of antifeminist vtubers who react to her if you don't want to stare directly into the shoe
/r/MensRights05/08/26 01:55 AM
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What do you mean? That would just mean people don't have the positive right to it People having the negative right to be a stay at home mom means that being a stay at home mom isn't illegal basically. Not hypothetical if stay at home parents were actually illegal in the USSR
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:22 AM
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No, it doesn't make sense. 50 50 custody makes sense because it's backed by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:02 AM
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No, it's not. We haven't established why these "deadbeat" dads don't have a 50/50 custody and no child support option, when 50/50 is better for the kids. We're all on board with the idea that mothers are more abusive than fathers, too, right? Again, women were not deadbeats when they didn't pay child support for centuries before the tender years, when men got the children in a divorce, were they?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:01 AM
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Yeah you sound like you take quality dick when you say shit like this, totally /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:59 AM
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Women's health gets more funding than men's, women have custody in favor everywhere except muslim countries, women control 85% of consumer spending, women are a majority in colleges, and in some colleges, 75% of the students, and men are the majority victims of all categories uncluding murder except cherry-picked categories of sexual and domestic violence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:58 AM
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"man figures out how to get woman to stop talking, film at 11" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:48 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXreRyGd8s Even if there was nothing wrong with them, we can say women are experiencing problems that prompt them to take the SSRIs. But I'm shocked that a red pill woman is saying this: you shouldn't take these drugs while pregnant, and since they basically work by making you build up a tolerance to them, you can have withdrawals for months, which also can negatively affect a fetus. I would assume some red pill women would oppose it just like how some red pill w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:36 AM
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No again. People don't have a positive right to be a stay-at-home parent; people do have a negative right to be a stay at home parent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:31 AM
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Yes, they *want* to be involved in the majority, but then of course, the minority *should* be able to bail if they happen to not want to be involved. What of it? You probably view something as a woman's right to be a stay-at-home mom the same? They *want* to do it in the majority, but if a minority wanted to be workers instead, they *should* be able to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:18 AM
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No, I'm saying they might not know what their preferences are if they have never heard this analysis There are people who suddenly change their preference on smoking when they see the math on lung cancer. Like omg, I've been working on my strayberry grunt and I don't know why a woman would leave if she woke up to one of these + a cup of coffee every few days for breakfast Discount professional chef, soooo good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:45 AM
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You mean the same US survey data and Department of Labor time use surveys? Because I have been providing 6 statistical fallacies with that data that never go addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:42 AM
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Pew Research Center (2023 survey, reported 2024): Among adults aged 18–34 without children, 57% of men said they wanted to have children someday, compared with 45% of women. About 21% of these young women said they never wanted to be parents, versus 15% of men. There was little gender difference in desire for marriage. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-young-adults-without-children-men-are-more-likely-than-women-to-say-they-want-to-be-parents-someday/sr_24-02-15_marriage-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:41 AM
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What? I don't know how that's grammatically correct, but I also don't knwo of teh manosphere prohibiting domestic abuse support? Left-wing MRAs want to build equivalent DV shelters for men; Libertarian MRAs want to abolish women's DV shelters equally. That's the best I can come up with; every other part of the manosphere is busy with other shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:25 AM

damn straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqert8lS1YU
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:22 AM
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Great, and she has good data proving that's the majority in the same way I have a forskin: she doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:21 AM
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whine about suicide rates Why would you ever put "whine" and "suicide rates" in the same sentence ever like that? Go to therapy while doing nothing about it. Because we try to do something about it and we get articles in newspapers calling us terrorist misogynists and then we don't get our funding and support https://youtu.be/oLdWRn1y-9A?t=331
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:02 AM
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It's not a landslide, Projection! We have studies that women get raopes 10% tops more than when men get raoed by women, and feminsts never care that it's not a landslide. You are presenting me with 2x which is a huger gap like how the perpetrators of intimate partner violence against bisexual women are 90% men. Source needed, pretty sure CDC in 2010 looked at bi women and had data that contradicted this when looking at last year data and not your garable lifetime numbers with statistical fallaci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:58 AM
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Most men do not care to have kids in 2026; according to statistics, it is mostly women who ask to have kids. So this argument that women would rather not have babies is a lie. Ehh? The manosphere is all abuzz about polls for the first time ever showing that men want kids more than women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4qGYYyyVE That's why this birth crisis is so scary; it's very clearly being fueled by feminism extolling the virtues of a cat lady anti-natalist extinction, and we have literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:08 AM
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No, the thing causing the male loneliness epidemic and it's suicides is unrealistically high female expectations The thing causing the female loneliness epidemic and causing women to get whacked out on SSRIs and turn to political lesbianism, where their abuse rates are going up, is *also* unrealistically high female expectations, that's the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:57 AM
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if they care so much how is it that there is over $100 billion in unpaid child support in the US. Because those men should be entitled to equal adoption rights. Adoption looks like a parent saying "see ya" to a child and not paying for a damn thing "$100 billion in unpaid child support" does not isolate a variable; the fact that the 1 in 5 people paying child support are women, and that they, in fact, are more likely to let their support go unpaid proportionally to men who owe support, does. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:53 AM
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You’re basically suggesting “if you can’t find a man you like, go for a man you don’t like!” So when I tell people that I as a hardcore men's rights activist am only really attracted to and respect female breadwinners as "the women that act the closest to men," and everybody tells me I'm being unrealistic and will never find that, what are they saying? They are saying, "You won't find that woman you like; go find the trad and feminist-women-who-pretend-to-not-be-trad that you don't like?" becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:45 AM
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So data when? No youtube link, just asking for data. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:34 AM
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No, they are in fact associated with single mothers, the argument that single fathers have a better economic status that explains the data, has been refuted by medium, slate, and you can go to your search and find like 10 studies that still show a difference when you adjust for socio-economic status You're welcome to show me this absentee father problem when father involvement has shot up in states that install 50/50 custody policies, as in fathers want to be involved parents when you let them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:34 AM
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No, they don't, look at the comments above you And look how they furnish statistics that "prove" female breadwinners are more likely to be beaten and cheated on and not get the dad pulling their weight in housework, and scare women away from the relationships, and look at how they oppose 50 50 custody so women have to worry about a single father and paying child support to scare them away that way too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:08 AM
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Theres nothing wrong with doing that via a donor and using a nanny. The kid certainly wont be damaged because if it. No they will in fact suffer a greater risk of suicide, drug addiction, poor socilization, failure to achive in school, stuggle in the workplace and failure to launch, more likel y to become criminal and vagrants etc just like in single mothers vs. adopted families, and adopted families vs bioligical intact parents But if you don't see why single mothers with lopsided custody in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:54 AM
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As an "anarcha feminist," do you ever get into a debate with feminists who promote the use of the term "latinx" instead of "latina"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:49 AM
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it doesn't, it was just a joke after i asked for your data, which you aren't giving me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GqABNl26ZY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:47 AM
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Yeah you keep saying "natalist" like it's a slur, it's unironically more cringe than when I call traditionalists and feminists "forwards" (forward traditionalists) as a slur We're going to Alpha Centauri and preserving the Japanese race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQEUfQ_ARd0
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:35 AM
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How about "just don't have children" A Household with a lazy man demonstrates to children that it's okay for men to be lazy. Yeah show me the lazy men? If it's the male maid data you can be the first person to address the half a dozen statistical fallacies in the data. If it's anecdotal crap evidence, all the anecdotal crap evidence I've seen has shown the opposite. The women I've known were messy and poor housekeepers. I was lazier at taking care of the house and laundry when I lived with my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:32 AM
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So find a good relationship? I understand it's bad to do the "no divorce until 18" thing; I understand that prolonging unhappy relationships can be bad for the kids in *that* way. I don't believe the logic applies to *trying* to find a good second parent for your kids and settling for someone with* some* flaws. Looking at studies that show people who consider divorce often say they are happy with their marriage if they just wait five years etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:27 AM
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The guy that posts crappy YouTube videos and links to his abandoned subreddit as sources, is somehow demanding sources. How rich. Yeah, I made my webpage because I got tired of having to post the same five dozen sources over and over again. Like again, it's "a link to my subreddit that in *turn* links to a dozen government studies," "a link to a youtube video that is in fact backed by university and press sources in the lowbar," "a link to a youtube video that is a literal college professor givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:21 AM
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There are people in this comment section below agreeing and arguing the point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:11 AM
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No amount of trivial work from men will ever be equal to the amount of life-altering work women must perform during pregnancy and childbirth. And the amount of labor from free-market surrogates is equal to the life-altering work they must perform during pregnancy and childbirth. If it's *worth* a dollar amount, it's worth that. If it's not worth a dollar amount, your two options are "swallow the inequality in the man's favor" or "antinatalist cat lady extinction." If your after #2. just say it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:58 AM
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Yeah at the expense of the kid's better well-being, so fuck em https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqjeZKhDOso
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:32 AM
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Every mainstream feminist group that does not try to prohibit intentional single parenthood on this level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:31 AM
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I wouldn’t trust most men to sahd at the level a woman could so no I would trust women to be a good stay at home mom could but I don't see how they would make a good stay-at-home dad :P the ones who can parent at the level and intensity of their female counterparts….are almost always gay. Nice data, but what does it mean when I'm bisexual? My standards are as high as they are because after I create my 3 biological children, I can always go alttrad (same sex stay at home parent + breadwinner coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:31 AM
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You’re thinking of the SAHD as a one-to-one replacement for the nanny, but there are a lot of expectations between a relationship between 2 parents that simply don’t exist between a employer-employee. Yeah and why is that the good trade off? There are expectations that come with being a nanny, and expectations that come with being a partners and a parent; we are fond of the coldness of the nanny-related expectations? Thanks for confirming you agree, though, go argue with the people above you and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:24 AM
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Please explain where you have seen this happen? You, in the next sentence: I'm pretty sure that this scenario is more "if you can't find a man who will do the housework, be a parrner and be an equal parent you might as well go to a sperm bank" If you want a family but you have it found a man that you want, what's stopping you from a sperm bank and hiring childcare? The fact that it's not a good starting point for the kids, a two-parent household where the man is a lazy maid is better for the kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:17 AM
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It's buried in the PPD comments and emanating from the biggest cat ladies And here's yet another example of a "red pill woman" agreeing with feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:14 AM
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We are talking about the ones who aren’t chosen. You aren't, I was in the op, where are you? My research project is about proving that role-reversed relationships aren't less unstable than others when we look at smaller income gaps of like 30 max, and when the relationship was supposed to be that way from the start. Obviously, if mom's going to work because dad has an injury or something, of course she's going to be pissed about that if she never wanted that lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:13 AM
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You don't have to financially support them; you simply say two people of wildly different incomes can date if they can both cover their expenses in food, etc and 50% of things like utilities, right? There are parts of the USA with a cost of living so low that you can actually do that only working 16 hours a week on weekends, or 20 hours a week in afternoons So one person just says they will be the predominant stay-at-home parent and do the majority of the cooking and cleaning and then they shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:00 AM
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You're obviously some kind of natalist. your natalist agenda? I'm a liberatarian; I heard someone once say "a libertarian calling you a statist is like a pedophile calling you an 'adult-fucker,'" This is a much stronger example of that energy to me Yes, *I* want to breed, it's normal to want to breed, because life is beautiful (And that's why you leaning on silly feminist strawmen to get the boys worked up. They are not strawmen; I've heard several people on this sub say that women who want chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:52 AM
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You mean the feminists who told *me* emotional labor includes things like housework, because they are morons?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:44 AM
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Yeah, but this person using a sperm bank is an even worse idea. That's the point. Someone just hiring a nanny instead of having a dad or a lesbo doublemom is not someone who should be allowed to be a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:43 AM
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No, there are half a dozen statistical fallacies in the studies men that "prove" men don't pull their weight in housework, compared to no being able to really deny the stats that female breadwinnners do not share their spoils as much as male breadwinners Again, a woman dedicated to the relationship style can screen. You date a guy and watch how he cleans his area and how often and well he cooks for you, etc before you have children. You can see how he interacts with his nephews, etc or, in the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:41 AM
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Autism is not a shield for refusing to learn very basic definitions. Autism is the only shield possible for thinking I was being literal Emotional labor is the work of managing other people's emotions, relationships, social dynamics, and the household's mental load. Women often end up doing both, which is why those topics get discussed together, but they are not the same thing. Yeah, I get that distinction, but I'm normally telling feminists that. Emotional labor is something like a gay man taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:37 AM
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ssues like resentment, egos The dadvocate claimed just today that studies show stay at home dads take more pride and view it as a part of their identity more than stay at home moms, I don't see the resentment there but I would expect a feminist who doesn't understand men's different emotional networks to call that "ego" and ones that don’t actually help around the house nor take care of the baby. No, no more male maid studies with a half a dozen statistical fallacies; I'm so tired of it Did thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:26 AM
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Data shows 77% of single women 18 to 30 say they want to be approached more, it only drops to 45% after 40
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:08 AM
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And women do too, show me your data, show me your data, 2 + 2 = data https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c--NVZh37o
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:58 PM
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I will say "don't approach at work" etc because it's dangerous for the man, but anything public is fair game, parks etc So is a gym a "public place" or a "private" one for the purposes of this convo? Because the answer can't be "you can approach at a government gym but not a privately-owned 24 Hour Fitness" or something, that would be crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:41 PM
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So it's just "nobody hit on anybody ever and go go gadget antinatalist extinction"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:39 PM
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Where is this evidence that men feel entitled to sex if they pay? They don't owe you all the non sexual aspects of a relationship, even if they pay you ten times; you are just as "not entitled" to anything as he is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:36 PM
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Or you can just wrap it up if you're so adamant about not paying child support. Yes, I can wear a male condom, and she can wear a female condom. Why didn't she just wrap it up? Again, she has a female condom; I have a male condom. I can "just keep my dick in my pants," she can "just keep her cunt in her pants," she can get a tubal, and I can get a vasectomy. Those are stalemates, and she has the tiebreakers, even if you take away her abortion. She has more responsibility. You can divorce for any…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:41 PM
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well you're welcome to pay for only those things that you want directly if you want to. starting now no one is stopping you YES YOU ARE STOPPING ME VIA SUPPORTING A GOVERNMENT THAT DECLARES A MONOPOLY ON THESE THINGS. You support a parks department that doesn't let me homestead any woods. You are supporting a government that demands control over the roads. Nothing else matters; if Elon Musk wants to design a private town for me, IT'S ILLEGAL. We've had a handful of "company towns" for the purpos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:37 AM
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give up on roads, plumbing, sanitation and the internet whilst you're at it buddy Or how about I just be allowed to buy those things from people who provide them privately after you stop making private roads and unregulated plumbing illegal? And what regulations are there on the internet you're talking about? The internet is often cited as an example of a mostly free market thing; the biggest regulations I can think of are ID restrictions for porn, which everybody hates those are what the counci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:34 PM
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you know that you do already pay for the kids of other men who don't pay child support through your taxes, right? like orphanages are all supported on taxpayer funds, as are many government programs for supporting unfortunate kids You know that as an anarcho-capitalist I oppose all of that stuff, right? I oppose all welfare, government schools, food stamps, and every other program. My opposition to child support is consistent with all of that. also married women need abortions sometimes too - ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:16 PM
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Yeah, great, like "abortion not being illegal is the negative right, someone else paying for your abortion is the positive right, and you should have the first but not the second" is the nuanced view, and feminists who say "having to pay for your own abortion means you don't have the right to it" is the flatland, simple view?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:00 PM
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He made things personal. He claimed he lost visitation rights to his own child simply for being a man. But I think he made it up to garner sympathy for his cause. He should be banned for that effed up sh\t.* No, I didn't. I said men in general don't get custody according to NOW opposing shared parenting; YOU made up a story about how I was a father who lost custody and then got mad that I "lied" about something you invented in your fucking head You are genuinely terrifying man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:55 PM
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No, male or female, one's reputation is usually their own fault Look at false rape accusations as an issue if you disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:57 PM
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Female Credibility was destroyed for ephemeral gains and tactical convenience. By women you mean? Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:51 PM
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I don't understand what context your talking about because you're being obtuse, no Nuance isn't "baggage" and "triggers,"; nuance is "the top 1% of people in charge are men, and all the people on the very bottom are men, and women are trapped in the middle" vs "men and women suffering is mens fault because they make up the majority of congress." The second is a typical example of how *feminists* have no concept of nuance I think you want "nuance" as an excuse to be inconsistent, like "marjuania …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:49 PM
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Yeah, that's how feminists came to the same conclusion independently. Yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnT6PwYZDh4
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:01 AM
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A human body is not an asset. Organ donation works on altruism in the western world because consent cannot be freely given under extreme duress. Yes legalize organ selling unironically. If it's "they will starve to death if they can't sell their organs" you are dooming people to starve to death, let alone that people don't get organs when they need them when it's not sorted out by the free market https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhgY6Vj1JE The body is our only home on this Earth, and when compro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:17 AM

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/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:36 AM
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No I'm crisising other people for coming to self contradictory conclusions with ultimately unjustified foundationalist premises. I don't have a self contradtory concluion, so my ultimatly unjustified foundationalist premises are a stalemate. I think that all the energy I have for this convo though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:21 AM

I have to peace the whole story together because you’re not being truthful. You don't have to peace any story together! You can just focus on the argument in the hypothetical! Omg https://youtu.be/fXU9T3D_9dw?t=254 People don’t lose visitation rights to their own child for nothing, not even in the misandrist hellscape you’ve imagined. Yes they do, NOW opposes shared parenting and only 6 states have on paper 50 50 custody polices because of it. What is NOW upholding if there is no bias? If your n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:05 AM
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let's talk about that. And I told you elsewhere that that's a case for pregnancy support and not child support. I met a random pleb feminist who had the same idea as me totally independently before, and she said "oh just tell that to the pro child support people and I'm sure they will agree :D" The right to bodily autonomy guarantees that no one can be forced to put their body through pregnancy and childbirth if they don't want to. That only legally entails that if men get pregnant, they can als…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:59 AM

No, it is about something you share, just that she has to want to share it with me. I don't want to hear about how I'm entitled when women leave for sexual abandonment and men who are impotent all the time. It seems you believe that you're owed sex in exchange for ... being in a relationship with a woman? No I don't, it's just I am allowed to end the relationship for that or for any other reason. There are totally asexual people or people into relationships soley for child rearing etc, but again…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:32 AM

If it was so easy to find such a woman you would already have one Yeah that's the fallacy I keep running up against, someone goes to look for advice of a rarer relationship and then they can just say "you can't have one or you wouldn't be asking," circular reasoning but based on the preferences of college educated women who are most likely to be able to be the sole breadwinner, they aren't looking to take care of a man. No we have a self contraction: if they are not taking care of men financiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:38 PM

Ahh shit... You don't believe women are flesh-and-blood humans like you, which is why you're saying that my phrasing of the peach metaphor uses "wrong terms": the right to one's bodily integrity transcends the concept of positive vs negative rights... What are you saying dude? I'm saying bodily interity is a neagtive right and therefore I believe in it. The woman is entitled to the bodily integrity of not fucking anyone, and the bodily integrity of not being interrupted if she want to fuck someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:17 PM

You didn’t divulge much but my impression from the comments is that your ex was awarded full or partial custody and then you refused to pay child support and because of that you’ve lost all visitation rights. Yeah and I haven't the foggiest how you did that because I never said any of that. the worst you can accuse me of is saying "why should my custody be shafted" for effect, like when a pro gay marriage straight guy says "why shouldn't i be able to marry my boyfriend" And if that’s the case th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:04 PM
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If you and another human being create a child that can't support itself the child will be entitled to child support and other rights that are indeed obligations for its parents. No I don't, the woman has an obligation to give the child up for adoption at any police station, fire station etc instead of dumping the child in a dumpster *if* she doesn't want to or isn't able to take care of the child herself and offer the father 50% custody if she does, and that's the extent of *either* parents obli…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:56 PM
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hose statistics aren't created in a vacuum. A large portion of single mothers start out as teenagers who are already poor. Conversely, the vast majority of single dads are middle aged living in the suburbs, This section from the Medium article provided rebuts over-reliance on this economic framing by demonstrating that problems persist even when poverty is not a factor: Quote: “It’s popular to say that because single mothers are more likely to be in poverty, it must be economic differences that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:29 PM
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No single fathers are more likely to get re partnered in general than single mothers, and women in general are more likely to prefer something in the trad direction to *all* of this, otherwise you are banking on the odds of him moving on to two female breadwinners in a row or winding up in the 29% minority of "equal" relationships when women want to play babysitter and bake cookies to dads with abusive ex wives, cool girls want to play M*A*S*H nurse to men divorcing abusive witches and you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:13 PM
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many of us here on PPD are saying we would support him getting custody and starting a dad vlog channel uploading his adventures in 50/50 parenthood. Because the memes and hee hees would be extraordinary. NO if and when I become a father I am going dark from all social media and hoping to build up a sustainable "reverse traditionalist" community on the internet before then "January 2019, Bloomfield retired, closing her blog and her Twitter and YouTube accounts; she wrote that she could defend her…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:05 PM
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lol "there is no equivalent action that will ever rectify men's biological advantage in avoiding pregnancy, therefore child support is an equivalent action that will rectify men's biological advantage in avoiding pregnancy," fantastic intelligence We don't know for sure it I'm pretty sure there's a reason we both hide histories but only she hides her follower count
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:29 PM

I can't address your positive vs negative rights contention because you've misapplied the framing of rights to ... humans? LOL what rights don't apply to humans? Women want to have sex because it feels good when she wants it physically, psychologically, and emotionally, and it doesn't feel good when she doesn't want it. Does sex feel good (psychologically, emotionally) to a man when he doesn't want it? I have no idea what the fuck your saying. rights don't have anything to do with who feels good…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:01 PM

But why did the courts decide you can’t? Because they profiled me as someone who was going to be a worse parent than your mom in raising your half brother Because I’m critical of the justice system, but I’ve only ever seen examples of people losing parental privileges who fucked up. You can just look at the fact that teh national organziation for women opposes shared parenting an 50 50 custody policies. If there was no bias what are they upholding? And if you did, you can work to atone and regai…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:44 PM
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I think custody should be gender-blind and based only on a parent’s parenting ability, not their gender, That's funny cause I think it should be based on 50/50 and *overridden* when you can *prove* poor parenting ability which is not quite the same. But adoption rights are equal—if a mother wants to give the kid up, but the father wants to keep it she still has to pay child support. No, because the mother gets the first offer; if she wants primary custody and the man paying support, the man has …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:31 PM
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Yeah there's a burden on me to jusify my premise and burden on them to justify theirs, and they have failed at theirs via a demonstrated inconsistancy that I don't have Criterion compatibilism as I call it, is the idea that things like morality have a subjective "irrational" root, but once you have some objective criteria as to when a subjective moral principle has been realized or violated, you can then catch contradictions. For instance "a person who steals $100 deserves one month in jail" is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:19 PM

Most women aren't setting out with the goal of having a stay at home husband. It's not hard to find women who say they would take it, pie-mart basically said she would do it if there were two biological kids instead of three and we agreed with politics. if you're a stay at home anything you have to put up with whatever the breadwinner does or leave. Or you can demand a breadwinner who lets you keep separate finances and build a nest egg to protect yourself, either with their money or when they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:05 PM
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But yeah, you've said you don't wanna pay child support. Yes, because I refuse any sex with a vagina unless I am promised the role as a primary caregiver, or 50 50 custody with no support, or single fatherhood, or adoption/abortion/plan b, so she would either be the deadbeat if she doesn't pay me MY support, or she would be a rapist (rape by deception) and she should not have custody. There actually is no scenario where me being not paying child support would be me being a deadbeat The only exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:44 PM
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Sure, but I wasn't talking about whether people happen to disagree. I was talking about whether the controversy is justified. No I was but consistency alone doesn't establish that your starting premise is correct. You've assumed all positive rights are invalid from the outset, so naturally every conclusion follows from that assumption. It's not an assumption when I give an argument as to how my framework is consistant (the argument that you *can* have all the negative rights with no conflict, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:13 PM

Cite the emotions in my post, and where you post anything other than contentless rhetoric Like show me where you address this: If a woman wants to not have sex, it's because the man does not have the positive right to sex, the woman does have the negative right to not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:07 PM
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Lots of children have died because they had no parents to provide for them, or because their parents neglected to do so. And proof that child support doesn't make that problem better or worse? We have evidence that legalize marijuana reduced the rate of marijuana, so for all we know, people could be having children that they think they can pay for with support, overshooting it, and creating more children that starve to death than if we didn't have it. I presented a distinction between child supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:04 PM
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The comparison to abortion is where your argument goes beyond what your premises justify. Child support deals with obligations to an already existing child. Abortion is fundamentally a dispute over whether the fetus has rights in the first place, when those rights begin, and whether they outweigh the woman's bodily autonomy. Those aren't the same conflict simply because both can be described using positive and negative rights. Child support must necessarily be described as *both* a negative righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:51 PM

No I was traumatized by spending about 8 months on reddit where I say "men should be able to see their children" and then people respond "I think you just aren't able to see your children" and them acting like they would be the compassionate ones if that were true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:38 PM

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. If a woman wants to not have sex, it's because the man does not have the positive right to sex, the woman does have the negative right to not have sex. If *that's* your idea of an "some abstract, philosophical force disconnected from humanity" that sounds like you're like the most hardcore rape apologists around bro, like with regards to the men raping women rape that everyone cares about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:36 PM
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"Here's an actual philosophy of human rights" Feminist #1: "Totally incompehensible" Feminist #2: "Agreed" *dozens of other feminists agree*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:33 PM
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"Here's an actual philosophy of human rights" Feminist #1: "Totally incompehensible" Feminist #2: "Agreed" *dozens of other feminists agree*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:32 PM
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"Here's an actual philosophy of human rights" Feminist #1: "Totally incompehensible" Feminist #2: "Agreed" *dozens of other feminists agree*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:32 PM
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"Here's an actual philosophy of human rights" Feminist #1: "Totally incompehensible" Feminist #2: "Agreed" *dozens of other feminists agree*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:32 PM
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It wasn't approved before I went to sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:31 PM
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And no, a man can ‘straight up rape a woman’ (although it isn’t surprising that the claim is made by someone who is very rape-ee), because he is denying her the right to her autonomy… of course unless you believe a woman’s right to autonomy isn’t a negative right which…. Oh boy I said "you can't rape a woman" and agreed with it, and cited it as an example of teh red pill understanding negative rights, I don't suggest it was awesoem to rape women, can you read? It absolutely is a negative right, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:30 PM
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Just because this thread is garbage, It's not garbage, you just don't want to admit that women are not entitled to aything You need to prove that femcels commit as much violence as femcels before you can paint them with the same brush. Ok, manosphere people have only killed a few dozen tops whereas feminists have killed millions via lopsided domestic violence policy and the tender years doctrine. If every femcel is a feminist, check please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:20 PM
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Holy horseshoe theory, this is just as nonsensical as the gender studies bullshit that came out in the past 15 years. And you say it with the same arrogant conviction the blue haired whales possess Yeah "if marijuania was legal you would have the negative right to it, if its free marijuana you are entitled to that's the positive right to marijuana, and you should have the first but not the second" that isn't nonsensical. The nonsensical part is where OTHER people are inconstant, because you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:17 PM
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t's one of them PolSci terms that makes perfect sense to people with overpriced degrees but never trickles down into the public consciousness because they gave them dumb names that only make sense if you follow a specific theory. Yeah like the terms that feminists use from Standpoint theory and Critical theory Marxist feminism. Those are more technical than "if it's not illegal, it's the negative right, if your entitled to it it's a positive right" which is absolutely a 'lay' understanding Why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:08 PM
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You're clear as mud. You mean the absence of opposition? This isn't a negative right. The concept of a "negative right" doesn't exist. What the hell is a "negative right"? You could watch the video, or google it yourself, or even look up wikipedia. Again, if marijuana were legal, that would be the negative right to marijuana. If you had taxpayer subsidized marijuana, that would be the positive right to marijuania. Imagine NO positive rights and ALL negative rights, and you basically have liberta…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:02 PM
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Negative means the government can’t take it away because it’s innate most of the time - meaning you are born with it Yeah that was how I was cheating really: if a person wants a sugar momma/daddy or a similar positve thing from a partner, it is actually their negative right to pursue such a relationship. It's just less sloppy than most of this sub. You conflating personal decisions like will my GF fuck me and can I break up with her for not doing so has fuck all to do with rights. Are you talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:40 PM
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Even if they did have equal access, it's not like it changes anything. Men do as little childcare as possible and they can't ignore their children any more than they already are. Men complaining about "muh custody" is performative. No it does change something and it is NOT performative, because father involvement has shot up in states that installed on paper 50/50 custody policies. That's isolating a variable as best we can. You're welcome to actually address that argument I've told you on this …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:27 PM
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So where are the dead children from thousands of years when men got teh children in a dovroce and women didn't pay a dime in child support, and still to this day in most muslim countries? Argument from ignorance fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:24 PM

I mean, you ARE a deadbeat who doesn't want to pay child support, I didn't think that required a debate since you say so yourself. You admit to wanting to scumbag max. And I want to be a stay at home father, I would be expected to receive custody and support (if there wasn't a 50 50 custody situation) so whose the deadbeat exactly? It's just that reddit always works on deleting chunks of someone argument, like when I say "I want alimony and custody in my favor in case there's a divorce" and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:23 PM
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And when you refuse to explain what the hell you mean by that, or pretend a more nuanced answer is necessarily a correct one, or use nuance as an appeal to the idea that you can be inconsistent, you are a bigger child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:18 PM
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Red Pill men routinely make leaps in logic and bad-faith arguments to derail the discussion all the time, without the reasoning or statistics to back them up. They also have no idea what an actual double standard is. Projection. I hear people on twitter all the time equating pro life policies with forced vasectomies instead of equating forced tubal ligations with forced vasectomies' We can easily rectify the biological advantage women have just by drafting the women. We don't, because of the hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:12 PM
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Take child support. That's not based on the idea that a woman has a positive right to a man's money. The legal argument is that the child has a right to support from both parents. You can disagree with that reasoning or how it's enforced, but it's not the same thing as saying the mother has a positive right to his income. No that's just arguing that the *child* has a positive right that supersedes the mans negative right. As a Libertarian MRA that actually *is* the argument. My argument is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:00 PM
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Invoking a fallcy without explaining how it applies thus shifting the burden of proof Also no, the definition of the word "insanity" is an *example,* so it's not going off topic or a distraction. r/lowelling
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:22 AM
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Nobody actually usues the word "insanity" to mean "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result," not the dictionary OR common usage or anything, but it's still entertained as an argument sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:54 AM
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Words have objective meaning, otherwise nothing would mean anything and communication would be completely impossible No I'm, tired of this, how many definitions of words did you learn from a dictions? 10% tops? Probably more like 1%, and you understood the rest via common on-the-fly meaning? THAT'S why the argument's bad, it's misanthropic. It's an insult to human brains magically being able to understand word meanings without books. Just like how my brother use to say our other brother's creati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:14 AM
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Why was the birth rate higher for thousand of years before the tender years doctrine, and today in many Islamic countries, where men get the children in a divorce and child support simply does not exist at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:29 AM
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Well op said he was using the "normal definition" which I would assume refers to the dictionary definition. Why? Did you learn 90%+ of the words you know via the dictionary, or did you learn to infer a meaning from how people typically use them? So that sounds like it's not the "normal" definition of a word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:10 AM
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U will ruin ur image if every Girl knows "ah this dude also approached me" There are several PUAs on youtube who openly talk about they made 1,000 approaches or 10,000 approaches and are in an LTR. Some people say "first rule of fight club is not to talk about fight club" but these women can find these videos on google and they don't care Cold Approach lost huge leverage, the conversion rate pre social media era was way better for cold approachers. 77% of women aged 18-30 claimed they wished men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:07 AM
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I argue against other people because I suck at arguing with myself? What? Again, proper debate form is in fact agreeing on a definition on the fly, that definition *can* come from the dictionary but it doesn't have to, and I have no idea what you are saying here Your one sitcom quip away from me turning of reply notifications, because I don't think you know what your saying/doing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:56 PM
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People can show agreession or anger without it having anything to do with their entitlement, real or imaginary
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:27 PM
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Say what made me feel a certain way? It's almost like that's not what I said at all Like I saw someone here once say "70% of stay at home moms work," then I saw someone else say "if you want to work part time, your not a stay at home dad, your a primary caregiver" so the logical approach seems to just to be to agree on temporary definitions when arguing with your opponent. As is a known rule of proper debate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:18 PM
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Yes that's probably the best rebuttal, the difference between "relevent cerediantials" and "bias" is going totally unlitigated, sometimes your ex is just plain nuts and other people will save your from the gaslighting it's just "don't listen to (most) people on the internet" also happens to be fantastoic advice, they will just piss on you on reddit. One guy did tell me I should get my sperm checked and that was helpful, almost everything else was worthless and mentally taxing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:06 PM
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There is no objective meaning to a word, no. Before a term can enter into the dictionary or similar reference material people have to agree what it means first, so the reference material is redundant If you ever watch Alton Browns "Good Eats," he uses the word "multitasker" to refer to an object that does more than one thing like, like a grapefruit spoon can also be used on tomatoes, or an egg slicer that also be used on mushrooms or strawberries. He's pretty much the only person who uses the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:55 PM
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What do you mean? What's the words "podium" lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:44 PM
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No, there is no "objective" meaning of a word dude, there is "what you mean when you use a word" When you say "use the word 'correctly'" that is a circular reasoning fallacy on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:42 PM
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It's not that theres no guilt or shame to pestering a woman 9+ times, it's that there is misogynistic shame in pretending she doesn't have the agency to say "no and I'm dumping you" the 9th time, or say "no and I'm dumping you" the 8th time etc, instead of just saying "no" over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:52 PM
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And it does not matter what the word entitlement "means," it matters what you mean when you use the qword entitlement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:49 PM
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Because it's the most hardcore sopestry possible to make the argument about "what words mean" to "what you mean when you use a word" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ You don't learn 90% of words by looking them up in a dictionary, you learn them by just hearing people use them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:45 PM
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Why do people insist on creating their own definitions instead of looking it up? Because it's the most hardcore sopestry possible to make the argument about "what words mean" to "what you mean when you use a word" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ You don't learn 90% of words by looking them up in a dictionary, you learn them by just hearing people use them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:45 PM
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And it does not matter what the word entitlement "means," it matters what you mean when you use the qword entitlement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:44 PM
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I disagree that dictionary definitions are every good arguments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:42 PM
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Afghan women are not taking university STEM lmao be serious. Nice strawman and you know my browser has a filter that replaces that emoji with "I'm 16." just for shit like this Nah, I just thought it was a bit rude and unnecessary to call you ignorant outright since you're doing fine demonstrating your lack of knowledge all on your own. Why are you losing the argument to someone who has a lack of knowledge? I'm less concerned with matters of *emperical review* being wrong than I am with peoples e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:33 PM
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The specific practice of young boys cross-dressing and being sexually exploited (called bacha bazi) is a historical cultural practice in Afghanistan and Central Asia. Iran is not one of "these countries", \so it's not relevant to compare.* Yeah and the gender equality paradox still applies to those areas too \edit to remove ad hom* Yeah it's impossible to call "ragebaiting" without admitting you are in fact enraged The birth control pill that was invented in the 1950s and became widely available…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:24 PM
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No intentional single parents please
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:45 AM
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So many men are against the whole providing thing You mean they don't want your trad gender roles forced onto them? especially if they wanna leave, they even argue for that Yeah a man not paying child support is just a guy exercising equal adoption rights, get over it manufacturing sector being completely automated Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:42 AM
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So if you look up "cytherea creampie compilation 240p" and skip to abput 22:10, theres a scene where the guy finishes and stops, and then cytheria says "pound me pound me pound me pound me pound me pound me pound me" and then he fucks her for a few seconds after like the seventh time, just so she can finish too Is she a rapist because she asked until he complied? Bearing in mind that sometimes it really hurts for a guy to go on after he's finished, that sounds like a definition of rape thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:12 AM
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You mean harassers you strawman as rapists because you deny women's agency You can just say no the tenth tine, and make it a "no and get out of my house" the tenth time if you doesn't want to be asked again
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:06 AM
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developed because women are especially restricted from participating in public life in that culture and socializing is extremely sex segregated. Citation needed, these are countries that often have like 55%+ of women in STEM like in Iran before the war. If women in 1823 had access to today's modern technology, they would have chosen to have fewer kids. What modern technology? The modern technology where childbrith is safer and easier even if there are still problems with it? You mean "jobs are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:02 PM
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If we advanced technology to allow men to become pregnant and give birth, would you do it? If not, you’re a major hypocrite. The artificial womb is discussed very heavily in MGTOW circles and has the potential to be amazing, not just for men but also for transwomen, and that's where it's probably going to go since some people are expecting transwomen to be able to get uturus implants and get pregnant in the next 30 years. So you could always just allow cismen to get those implants too. The only …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:33 PM
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You’re more than free to carry as many pregnancies and birth as many children as you want fam You mean other women are, and I'm free to creampie them, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:52 PM
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But we’re at a point where people can finally choose to be childfree and NOT face any potential repercussions from it. That wasn’t always the case. Yes it was always the case, the term "spinster" literally refered to a woman with a job instead of a family. We cannot say whether women were genuinely happier back then We have polls that most women who don't have children live to regret it by their 60s etc, so insofar as we can measure happiness, that seems like it. It's just so bumb man, it's "the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:36 PM
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This is... very ahistorical. Reliable, safe, readily-available birth control was not an option until the 1960s. Yeah so women had an even bigger burden then they do now and they still did it. They had abstinence education, and you guys seem to think abstinence education rocks when you tell men "keep your dick in your pants if you don't want to pay child support" so yeah it was a choice. Women didn't have to be "forced" 200, 500, 1000 years ago because there literally wasn't an alternative. Until…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:30 PM
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NO, we need people not having children unless they can demonstrate a willingness to take care of them themselves, if you want the government to subsidize people starting families you will get parents who do not demonstrate any responsibility towards the children Women had a *worse* burden 200, 500, 1000 years ago and they swallowed it, and it wasn't because they were "forced," they had the financial provision of brothers etc back then so they had *less* reason to need a husband and they still di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:46 AM
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Yes we subsidize corn, which causes farmers to burn their crops, and makes candy and soda manufacturers to use corn syrup instead of real sugar, but it's never really been proven to be *uber* harmful, just doesn't taste as good You can buy corn syrup at the grocery store, and your supposed to use it when making a simple sugar sugar syrup or candy as a sugar impurity to prevent the sugars from lumping and forming one gaint crystal. People dissolve regular sugar and water and throw a tablespoon in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:30 AM
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Being attractive. Having a good personality. Etc. Yeah that's every relationship The reality is men with money can use it as a tactic to have better options when it comes to choosing women. Female breadwinners even more so. The reality is, my career will be how I can best demonstrate that i will be a responsible as a parent in the future. Thus my point that you need to be bringing something to the table other than arrogance Yeah being a professional baker so she'll have a chef, waaay above most …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:14 AM
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Men hate women. OMG this is another example of where I talk to a woman for hours and then figure out she said nothing the entire time Reply notification off, cook or be cooked https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-3-episode-13-cookout
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:02 AM
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Men don’t do cooking We are the majority of professional chefs, we are so good at cooking we get paid for it, Alton Brown literally applied men's greater creative drive to the kitchen and invented shit: Men cooking: https://youtu.be/0gdjQRLnqto Women cooking: https://youtu.be/5XnbU35qh_Q Sorry but most women suck at cooking, I don't know what it was like when my mom was an actual stay at home mom before my dad died, but as a widow she used to basically make a fish dish sometimes, that eventually…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:18 AM
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Most dental and medical students are women. Yeah I have seen evidence that nowadays certain fields of jobs are going to 90% women so *students* sounds about right What happened that made men lazy 10 years ago, or 200 years ago? and keeping the house clean and cooking Fuck your male maid statistics, half a dozen statistical fallacies in them you refuse to address and not demanding random men thank them for it. https://youtu.be/r7kqqywey7g?t=1413
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:19 AM
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YOU ARENT EVEN BUILDING THEM. And you are not doing *anything,* not even blowing me NURSES ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. As of 200 years ago yes, and male nurses mostly only skate sexual assualt accusations when they can prove they are gay DOCTORS ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. Citation needed DENTISTS ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. Citation needed ALL OF THESE PROFESSIONS ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT WORK. You are losing your shit and projecting, you probably don't slave over a hot stove *or* a hot cubicle and haven't had a man in month…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:28 AM
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So show me your fucking skyscrapers, show me a majority in the data or anything? Show me female bones lining the great wall of china from it's centuries long building process? OMG https://youtu.be/HPQUn0G2tNw?t=1573
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:05 PM
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https://www.snard.com/sg/guide/?ep=86
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:54 PM
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if you're gay in any way you'll find sex from grindr and a dude who's your type guaranteed on grindr or other dating apps. bi men can find someone to date on grindr if they wanted to, truth is most of them don't want to. It's probably easiER but i tried to find something temporary (like FWB until I find a ciswoman to breed with) and I got no real takers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:50 PM
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I don't believe this framework is truly a useful one to apply to life and the problems associated with it. That sounds like your interested in a debate of the framework Reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:25 PM
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LOL, those "cheat codes" is basic bluepill stuff. The difference is that red pill guys had to study them from some influencer bro, while the rest of us just knows them from birth. No that argument goes both ways, 90% of *both* the red pill and the blue pill's advice is basic "take a shower" type stuff, but the red pill gets death threats and news articles over it https://youtu.be/br1V_MG5fSE?t=8667
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:22 PM
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Red pill almost never meets a solid burden of proof so I can dismiss it without evidence Projection The fact I'm pathologizing it is an entirely different inquiry line nothing to do with disproving it because that would require me to think it was established well enough to need to be disproven. It's a distraction to the fact that you have no answer to dozens of studies on hypergamy and dating apps collapsing into harems, and Warren Farrell producting data that women say no when they mean yes The…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:09 PM
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No, worms live forever because you only cut them lenthgwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:06 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCoEM6aDpc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:53 PM
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You've made worms meat of me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:23 PM
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What? I don't want women to pander to me, I want the claim acknowledged that men are lazier than women is false Since you started this by asserting men are lazier I'm assuming projection that you only said that because you want men to pander to you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:13 PM
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Professional baker and hopefully primary caregiver, I might have to dip ito my custodian work history in order to find something part time that would fit a primary caregiver's schedule This is all dumb, pew data shows that in looking at paid work too, men work a handful more hours when married, women a handful more hours when both are legally single, so I should have just started with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:01 PM
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honey badger discord https://badgernation.online/ https://www.feedthebadger.com/product/subscribe-monthly/
/r/MensRights29/07/26 07:51 PM
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honey badger discord https://badgernation.online/ https://www.feedthebadger.com/product/subscribe-monthly/
/r/MensRights29/07/26 07:50 PM
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Literally your skyscrapers, your home computer and smartphone, that's almost all men demonstrating how much less lazy they are then women omg https://youtu.be/luV7XHQ-Q5Y?t=1502
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:19 PM
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Yes, I openly identify as a radical men's rights activist, and a radical women's rights activist. You're welcome to show me what is wrong with either of those things. In fact, although I oppose feminism, I prefer radical feminsts to casual pleb feminsts who are willing to compromise on a billion things, because I consider them a better mirror of my beliefs, like how Penn Jilette used to say that as an atheist, he didn't like liberal moderate Christiasn wiling to compromise and give you your gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:09 PM

No I'm not changing the subject. I'm saying according to all the evidence, men are less lazy than women when it comes to pretty much every other job anywhere ever, so it would stand to reason in the absence of evidence, men are also less lazy when it comes to housework, It just doesn't register with you that we don't have any good evidence men do fewer hours of housework because you deliberately ignore a half dozen statistical fallacies associated with that data
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:48 PM
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You mean feminists are usually wrong or project like this, sure, down to "everything being a war" https://youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:08 PM
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I definitely don't feel like the attraction I experience is like the attraction of straight men and straight women stacked on top of each other. To me, being attracted to men and women is the same feeling, it's just two different kinds of people who are both my type, like being attracted to both blondes and brunettes. That sounds like the difference between omnisexual and pansexual I gained a lot of respect for the pansexual label when I found out it's properly considered a subcategory of bisexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:49 AM
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Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Not all of them, but some women do deserve credibility for their self-reports https://np.reddit.com/r/antifeminist/comments/1v9nox5/why_you_should_never_listen_to_accusations_by/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:16 AM
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This subreddit is the same 20 people who hate me over and over again, it's like a drunken abusive family
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:42 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aOHQ-sMCps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:34 AM
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I see you https://www.facebook.com/RobPRocks/videos/hes-got-cokerob-paravonian-on-premium-blend-2001/2321440098069747/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:25 AM
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Alot of guys wish they can be assholes above reproach and worshipped. That's why they hate bad boys. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:17 AM
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I like how a feminist mod deleted the "no empty rhetoric" comments and then a "passport bro" mod had to come in and delete the "lol you can't get laid" ones half a day later
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:03 AM
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Yeah it wasn't anything creepier than South Park being "obsessed" with Snooki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pymsn50b9U Great you don't want an empty cup, and you wonder why men feel like they need to dominate and take charge in relationships Reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:00 AM
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What does this have to do with anything?! Men who don't work should be doing exactly the same hours of unpaid work as SAHMs. They don't. That's the problem. Maybe feminist stay-at-home dads do this, and whatever population of antifeminists stay-at-home dads that exist don't? Like how we have waaay more male feminsts busted for sexual harassment and abuse than manosphere people? And again, you are telling me to suck on your half dozen statistical fallacies. This *is* how you debate *instead* of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:20 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwK1spnyMU
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:02 AM
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a conspiracy theory that they must "think their way through" using facts, logic, statistics, analysis, science, and philosophy. You know. Traditionally masculine things which women don't really do because they don't match their shoes very well. Yeah look at all my threads here lol (Kidding, of course Reddit catladies don't represent real women)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:02 AM
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No what is the cage? Traditionalism that I don't want? Equality that she apparently doesn't want? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 AM
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Yeah we have five or six labels, and feminists have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_movements_and_ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:48 AM
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You know I installed a browser extension that replaces that emoji with the text "I'm 16" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:45 AM
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Also, I didn't catch this: how many of those stay at home dads are feminists and how many are antifeminists, considering that literally the definition of reverse traditionalism is necessarily antifeminist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:44 AM
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I mean….. yeah. If all you have to say is “hi” I will absolutely ignore you Yeah, what do *you * have to say other than hi? Those men are usually empty cups that can be filled with whatever you want, just "i don't know, what do you wanna do?" types but women don't want that; they want him to "lead" (which involves him working, thus they are just enslaving him in the jannisary-style) You mean the wife of an absolute nut case of a man obsessed with Taylor Swift’s reproductive clock? You call him "…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:37 AM
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"Most of their views still align more closely with mainstream dating beliefs." "But what about their views tho?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:28 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:10 PM
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And now I've worn you down to just gender shaming a bisexual man who wants to be a stay at home dad. Everything about feminism is a lie, including shit like them supporting gay rights Truning off reply notifications with all of my threads with you because I've finally figured out that women's superpower isn't just talking about nothing, and it isn't just talking on and on for hours, it's talking about *nothing* for hours and hours, so all the women on this sub will literally go back and forth fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:10 PM
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What excuses? You're saying me (allegedly) not getting laid is something I need an "excuse" for? Feminists are supposed to criticize men for placing to much value on pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:11 PM
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You sound VERY irrational if you have no response to feminism shutting down shared parenting and male domestic violence services with just "you need to change your understanding or your not gonna get pussy" I don't want that pussy, as a "I've seen what makes you cheer" moment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:09 PM
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You mean you actually want us exterminated? Stop fucking us if you're tired of us, and stop having us build your skyscrapers and shit too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:07 PM

So, it’s about how you can’t get laid on “your terms” or anyone else’s terms. Where is the "bitching about not being able to get laid" part? *I'm* very optimistic; this sub is full of *other* people who think I can't get laid. You guys are blackpill incels, just blackpill about someone else's ability to get laid instead of your own. Your guys' response to incels literally used to be to claim that it was a self-fulfilling prophecy and "you can get laid if you believe :D"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:43 PM
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What a goal post if I’ve seen one. There's a difference between moving goalposts and establishing them; you are trying to establish that men are even choosing to leave in the first place, but you aren't proving it with data and feel no need to. The reason why doesn’t matter No dude, the reason does matter. I'm not putting up with a woman who literally throws knives at my face to "protect" my children, because if she kills me she gets to be alone with my child anyway. Because later on you go to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:33 PM
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Yeah it's depressing that even most "red pill" women uphold gynocentrism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:23 PM
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You can want what you want but you’re not going to get it unless you change your perspective What is the perspective you want? You want "feminists oppose gender neutral domestic violence shelters and oppose shared custody, but it's ok to swallow that and call myself a feminist if I want female breadwinner pussy"? No one is sexually assaulting you. Yes dude, I have a rule that I will *refuse* pussy fucking with any woman who does not promise me stay-at-home dad. I mean, of course, she has to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:22 PM
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As a woman who wanted a SAHD and made enough to finance it, I would have never picked this dude. I doubt anyone would. With women on this sub, sure, because 90% of this sub are blue/no-pill/purple pill people. The very first "act of RevTrad" was a guy's wife demanding he send me nudes of her via PM to me to cuck him; that was one of the seedy "red pill" women I was complaining about elsewhere, but overall, it's very clear that pro-men women like what I'm doing. It's entirely possible that I find…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 PM
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I have never seen a man so intent on ruining his own chances at happiness. Are you suggesting I would be unhappy if I became a SAHD? Are you one of the red pillers who suggest men are happier if they are the workhorses because based on a biological determinism? It seems he can’t even imagine a world where he isn’t the ultimate victim. I’m so glad I’m old lol Dude, what a fucking joke. Below, I have you ducking questions about feminists shutting down male domestic violence shelters and opposing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:04 PM
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I told him the same, that's it's very unlikely he's going to find a woman who will support him staying at home. With women on this sub, sure, because 90% of this sub are blue/no-pill/purple pill people. The very first "act of RevTrad" was a guy's wife demanding he send me nudes of her via PM to me to cuck him; that was one of the seedy "red pill" women I was complaining about elsewhere, but overall, it's very clear that pro-men women like what I'm doing. It's entirely possible that I find my fut…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:00 PM
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I'm not petulant, I have similar "demands" to a tradwife this entire thread is a product of a conversation he started with me on another thread where I pissed him off No it's not, this thread is about feminism and has nothing to do with that or you And I wasn't "pissed off," show me the part where I get "pissed off" with you. You just put anger onto your opponent so you can paint them as irrational because I stated that since I am the one birthing the children for my family my husband and I deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:59 PM
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"The Statista page (Number of families with a single mother in the United States from 1990 to 2024) does not break the data down by the reasons fathers left (or any other causes of single motherhood). It simply tracks the total number of families with a female householder and no spouse present" https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg_85b9e9f3-14f8-4677-8bd2-ff1048b71a45 If grok's wrong show me where, you should have addressed this when I asked you the first time If these fathers were abused by these w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:28 PM
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No, she has to promise me stay-at-home fatherhood or she's a rapist if she fucks me Here's a crazy one: how do female rapist of men exist if it's this easy for women to get laid? They can just exist if they want consensual dick. Why did my female rapist do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:23 PM
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It’s truly incredible how you view women having just standard human rights as stealing something from you When did I do that? I viewed them as not being about equality, and women not having those rights traced back to men not having other rights to offset them. I have no problem with women having the right to vote, and the right to hold credit cards etc, but they were never about equality if they didn't fix the other half. Also, I want to know how opposing 50/50 custody, and Erin Pizzy getting b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:21 PM
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So engage in really vicious, insane competition and mind games?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:15 PM
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Yes, it ties back to the fact that "sexual selection" (like natural selection, artificial selection, kin selection etc) is more practiced by females than males, and that is an act of the mother rejecting the father
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:14 PM
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How do you mean? Feminists tell me all the time that two people of wildly different incomes can be in a relationship; they just need to be able to cover their own food, etc and approximately 50% of things like utilities and childcare expenses. I think I can cover that with a part time job in a part of the country with a lower cost of living if she's willing to be a stay at home mom on the weekends or afternoons while I'm at work, then we just say that I only should really pay 20% or 30% of my ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:12 PM
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Then go fuck a man who WANTS to bankroll everything because I don't. I want either equality or I want *her* to pay, because *I* want *her* to be the higher earner. I *want* to be the primary caregiver; I'm bisexual, and we used to throw around studies 20 years ago about how gay men's brains have some similarities with straight women's brains, so who knows if I am just more wired for it. The reason why men pay is that they are supposed to demonstrate that they can *earn* and take on that breadwin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:38 PM
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It's a quote from Animal Farm by George Orwell. The pigs were an allegory for communists, and they wrote "pigs are more equal" and "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Women, for the majority, will be fine if men decide to do this Some women will be very fine when I decide to do this, like lookin fine on my floor, so yeah glad we can agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:27 PM
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You didn't give me a link or a source name you mean? No, no you didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:21 PM
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All 100% of cases I'm sure (/s) and your adjusting for the single mother *wanting* the father to take custody and not her shafting it via the court?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:20 PM
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250-500 filicides No, links (or a study name I can google) or gtfo Lack of paternal involvement was also present. Let's say that was the case in 100% of filicides. 100% of non-involved fathers do not cause filicides Ok? Guess what? Alcohol involvement is present in 100% of cases of drunk driving. But drunk driving is not present in 100% of cases of alcohol consumption, You don't get to blame alcohol merely *existing* as harshly as you do the person's choice to drive drunk, and you don't get to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:19 PM
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Yeah, look who's not posting in this thread at all, the two women flaired "red pill women" who post in everything else, they are ghosts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:47 PM
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I fully support you telling other men not to do that. Because any man who would want to do that isn’t listening to a man who can’t or doesn’t want to about anything. Mmmhmmm, that's right, I support forward-trads right to exist, I even support men forging an identity for themselves doing it, but it is an *individual* identity. About the time I part ways with this branch of it is very much when they don't want my opinion on *anything,* because of these different outlooks and philosophies Because …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:46 PM
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this is a men want to take me on dates and don’t have a problem with it therefore this is a nonissue. There is nothing about being a decent human being or not. This is not a moral issue. Yeah, what do you mean? There are women who exploit this system solely to get free meals; that's kind of a moral issue, and it was one you were inviting with this lopsided arrangement with no checks and balances
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:47 AM
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Right, if a man has means and wants to take a woman out, that is NOT inequality, and if he turns around and requests that she pay for the second date to be fair to him, that actually IS inequality because pigs are more equal to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy28tUpTSWs What do you mean by any of this? Again, men and women have the right to consent to a setup where a man pays 100% for every date, sure, but only because people have a right to consent to an *unequal* setup. Men also have a ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:43 AM
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Art is a buffer and offers deniability and separation and I'm already over it. It's often a way to avoid things and weirdly not be vulnerable. Yeah, and it's still more direct than when women talk about their feelings. Men are known for being direct, honest and blunt; women are known for a dungeonscape, literally "I shouldn't have to explain it to you" shit Again, *what* is your idea of "men talking about their feeling in a healthy way?" Because literally writing a song about how you feel is sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:30 AM
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No, it's not an "every woman is a gold digger" comment; it's an "every woman who's in this comment section who is shitting on equality is a gold digger"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:00 AM
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Vocaloid. What? No, they aren't. They're just less overt in their brokenness. I understand it isn't Marilyn Manson obvious, it's like Kurt Cobain obvious. What? No you don't because you are not stupid, sir. You realize these things are unrelated and that really none of this is about what you say. No, they are in fact related. When people ask for me to enter into an equal relationship instead of seeking stay-at-home fatherhood, they are in fact arguing that I shouldn't have that "leverage" over m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:57 AM
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That's an excellent job of addressing all those statistical fallacies associated with your male maid data Now lets see, how often do I need to send my wife into the coal mine in order for our children to not be one of the 55% to 75% of children who are killed by the mother? Or the dozens of statistics where single fathers excel over single mothers should be flushed down the drain? Like again, you getting a male maid is more important thsn kids not committing suicide Oh, and what do I have to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:23 AM
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Seems like women set the standard You could have deleted everything except these six words from your post, and it would have only gotten more relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:24 AM
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That's a perfect way of putting it. I saw a post by a red pill woman one time saying, "I get a dozen messages from men on dating apps that are just 'hi,' forgive me if you need to put some effort in to stand out or I don't care," That woman is completely indistinguishable from a female pleb feminist Stephan Molyneux's wife is the big example of a reverse traditionalist woman, and she has standards that are mostly equal to her husband's (you should love your partner when they demonstrate virtue)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:22 AM
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You have him confused with the MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:17 AM
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scroll https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1v8kkpw/comment/p07lcfx/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:15 AM
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go ask them r/RedPillWomen I'm not stepping into that vipers den, men aren't really allowed in those spaces just like how women aren't really allowed in the normal red pill spaces The only reason I have to go there is to occasionally fap to a female snoo talking about how much they like giving their man blowjobs, but they still think raising children is being "submissive" vs working in a coal mine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:12 AM
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NO, I want it to be made SHUNNED to make ANY gender START as an intentional single parent We have more *couples* who want to adopt than there are babies available, let alone making a biological mess and just hiring a nanny anyway You don't see why this is fucked up, because a single mom with 100% custody collecting a check from dad is already normal to you What a shame that the conservatives were right and gay marriage led to *this* instead of an understanding that *two* parents are awesome at r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:10 AM
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What is that cage? "You can have your female breadwinner dream life, but you have to drop the feminist ideology that makes you literally afraid to walk down the street, afraid men will rape and dv you, and scare our daughter out of STEM fields, gaming, politics, and existing as a woman anywhere ever by exaggerating the misogyny in those fields? It's not about being in a cage; it's about flying with one wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X_Vsoret_A
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:04 AM
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Then why does it work when women do it? I know the answer, but I want to quiz you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:00 AM
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Why do people think that men have trouble talking about their feelings when men made up (and still do make up) the vast majority of artists, musicians, and made the majority of literature for millennia, and women talking about their feelings usually looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI8uuXEXqg Yes, that's the point: red pill spaces often involve men showing vulnerabilities to one another that they *cannot* show to their female partners because they will kick them to the curb. BECA…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:00 AM
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casual yes, but they are usually on the same page about *some* things in an LTR, but then they are usually just pushing trad with higher male body counts allowed and with sex before marriage at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:55 AM
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No, a reverse traditionalist doesn't care about limiting his dating pool to 1/10th the population, just like how MGTOW don't care about not getting laid at all Again, I just explained that there are three groups in the manosphere devoted to getting laid via men conforming to society (PUAs, Red pill trad, and Incels), one group where the question is irrelevant (MRAs), one group that deliberately does not want pussy (MGTOW), and my group (Reverse trads) are about getting laid on *our* terms
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:52 AM
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https://youtu.be/_2coDEGJdMI MGTOW - Men who refuse to get married, and other levels of avoiding interactions with women for your own protection MRA - People who support men's human rights and oppose discrimination against men PUA - pick up artists, antifemists who try to get laid. What i assume most of us mean when we say "red pill." They seek women's approval because they kind of suck "RPFT" - Red Pill "Forward" trad, what most puas graduate to, sometimes smack talking their pua past like Roos…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:48 AM
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I'd tell red pill men to date an aardvark in a Hatsuna Miku cosplay if I thought they'd do it because that too would be better than the negativity spiral they're in. Who? Sounds like you're talking specifically about incels or "the black pill,"; lots of PUA types etc are more optimistic Because the entire purpose of relationships is to avoid giving leverage to anyone. When people keep talking about how equal everything needs to be instead of giving me time with my babies, yeah, I assume that's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:22 AM
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Carry on what, extracting money from simps? Sure, screen yourself out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:08 AM
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in the area of bodily autonomy for almost 20 years. Yeah, have you done this? (me) https://www.cafepress.com/shop/ForcedRetractionAntiCirc/products Why not just use the dictionary definition? Because you should never use a dictionary definition You’re being petulant to get attention Projection: if the difference between WRA and feminist was a minor one, you wouldn't have a problem with me not calling myself a feminist either because it's a "minor issue" either way rather than actually engaging w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:07 AM
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I'm not saying it. The radical feminazi research organization Pew Research, who used data from the American Time Use Survey, derived from another misandric woke institution, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, is saying it. No this is what you did last time, you made an appeal to authority fallacy when better authorities than those have pushed the wage gap myth, and we don't buy that shit What statistical fallacies? Did they miscount the hours for all men? - All the data is self-reported when we …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:59 AM
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Men could just ask for custody. They don't, Nope, we've been through this; it's a self-selecting group fallacy where fathers only seek custody when they think they will win. Tired of this https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g/five_sources_on_how_fathers_get_custody_when_they/ Again, the National Organization for Women opposes shared parenting, what are they uholding if there is no bias? as evidenced by how little childcare they do, As contradicted by data showing increased father invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:40 AM
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Yeah, I like the basic one "a person who is a women's rights advocate but not a men's rights advocate" Most people agree all feminists are women's rights advocates (but not all WRAs are feminists) and most people view men's rights as the devil, so that is in fact well accepted, and I will feel quite free to use that one. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:21 AM
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And nobody has to believe your male maid statistics when you refuse to address a half dozen statistical fallacies involved in them and just re assert they are true over and over again Again, if there's a problem, it's a "fuck you pay me" problem where female breadwinners are not sharing their wealth and the men are responding to that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:17 AM
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Definitely don't give it a shot, My sarcasm/satire deteor totally breaks down here, I have no idea if your telling red pill men to seek red pill women or what youre doing Why share a common worldview with a woman you're dating Because when your partner has less in common with you, they have less leverage over you. "You'll never find another woman who's into Space Ghost and The Sega Master System again if you leave, so here's a plate at your head asshole" trying to bend her to your will. If this …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:13 AM
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Feminism is about freedom to do what you want, *adds to the pile of contradictory definitions of feminism furnished to me by dozens of feminists* I guess that means abortion is finally a feminist issue, because it has nothing to do with equality, but it does have something to do with freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:51 AM
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My standards for men are so high they'd have to become women to meet them tbh. What does this mean? "My standards for x are so high they have to stop being x." You have to go so far as to undo your male socialization that taught you to see women as bangmaids, *My* male socialization that did that? When I want to be the bangmaid and women say "no i want to be your bangmaid while you work yourself to a slow suicide and never spend time with your children" and "no we are supposed to be equally work…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:39 AM
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So "don't call us, we'll call you" or "we are also cat ladies but we don't call ourselves feminsts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:06 AM
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They are looking to fulfill traditional gender roles. So why on earth is good advice to tell conservative guys to date progressive women who do not want to fulfill those roles? I don't know. If feminism is "traditionalism on crack," as girlwriteswhat put it, then I think most "red pill" is also an equal but opposite tweak to traditionalism, where they do have respect for traddy people but they also allow men to rack up large body counts as PUAs before they graduate to trad This is all just showi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:02 AM
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https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/slippery-slope-fallacy/ (/s)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:53 AM
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Well you consider MGTOW red pill, I don't entirely. Of course, MGTOW rejects women's approval, whereas male feminism, incel, and PUAs often wind up seeking it, and by red pill here I basically mean PUA and trad I consider Reverse Traditionalism closer to MGTOW, because protecting custody via seeking stay-at-home fatherhood is about men seeking their *children's* approval, and seeking a hypogamous women to secure alimony in exchange for a lack of male domestic violence or grape services isn't abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:48 AM
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Imagine being this much of an asshole to someone you like. And imagine women letting it work on them... like they do irl all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 AM
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Women do that by making brunch plans, volunteering, creating book clubs and going to farmer's markets on Sunday with friends, not by going on dates with broke and/or cheapskate men. Wow, they do all that instead of earning money, and I'm the cheapskate for advocating equality? Equality when I'm not looking for an equal relationship and am looking for a primary caregiver reversal, and thus I should be allowed to be 100% of a deadbeat and am being cool by asking for 50% anyway? Again, women have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:32 AM
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It's confusing because I dont see where the father maje her murder the baby instead of give the baby up for adoption
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:05 PM
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Yeah you are talking about a man experiencing a lifetime of adverse experiences at the hands of women and visa versa being justified even when it's contradictory, even when we would expect someone to be shit on by like 12 men at sone point in their lives and someone 12 women when we live on a planet of 8 billion people, and both of these people could be outliers compared to the real statistics The connection is that if someone shout "fire" in a crowded theater and there actually is one,you are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:59 PM
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Some places surrogates earn 200k Yeah thats mostly driven up by regulations in California and he rpregnancy is not similarly regulated So u want to whore ur self out for the sake of children, if that's your dreams hope u get it. It's been done before. Yeah I wanted to be a sex worker (I'm bi) before I decided I wanted to become a baker + stay-at-home father
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:37 PM
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The numbers are infinitesimal to be comparing the 2 as if they have any sort of equivalence. We have no number for fathers abandoning because you aren't giving me broken-down numbers for "single moms because the father abandoned" vs "single moms because they moms felt like it" or "single moms because the father left for abuse" or any other reason; you are just saying "millions of single mother families" without a source or breaking anything down. Also bear in mind that fathers aren't allowed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:49 PM
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That's a separate task/job, childrearing is a different job than child bearing, so if you were to pay someone for each other those jobs, one would be surrogate 80k other would be nanny 50k. For starters, nanny is 90k, and this is the problem with the whole argument. We haven't decided whether raising children is a privilege or a drawback. That's why the *whole* argument is dumb because value can be subjective on *that* level, like I actually can view a woman getting preg as being worth $1 to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:38 PM
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IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ITS WORTH IT THEN DO NOT DO IT. Yeah great, as a libertarian, you can have totally unfair situations or a different idea of what's fair as long as they are consensual, like a woman being bankrolled her everything, it's just people are also allowed to have discussions about how much they should/shouldn't put up with other people's shit, and figuring out their idea of fair that they want to seek in the first place, like when you say this later: I would also not encourage my f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:26 PM
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On that level, I would say it's something along the lines of: there was a guy, bane666au, used to know who was really racist against asians, and then later he revealed it was because he was once mugged by a group of asians, and he healed over time. I say it's *understandable,* not *justified* You are suggesting that if a man experiences nothing but bad times with women, he is justified in distrusting women, and if a woman experiences the gender reverse, the same. Why are both people *allowed* a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:43 PM
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Ok, so why do you view me holding up a mirror to others insanity as "insane"? A woman can expect a man to get her off after he finishes first; can a man expect the same? Just literal equality is all I'm asking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:37 PM
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Great, you're not furnishing any statistics and relying solely on anecdotal evidence so it doesn't matter This is why it's projection that feminists always say "you just hate women because you had a bad experience with one," you do in fact view it as justified to hate a gender over your personal issues with them in the first place instead of viewing it as a cheap fallacy like we do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:33 PM
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No the surrogate gets paid the 80k and the kid never sees the surrogate after it's born or the surrogates money. Yeah, exactly, unlike the surrogate, the mother wants the benefit of raising the child herself, so she should not get paid as much, prob only 40k if she wants 50% custody in a divorce, and definitely less if she's not the primary caregiver like I want to be. It's 80k it's going to used up long the parents die. It's a little less than average 2 year salary. It likely will be used up in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:31 PM
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I think one’s worth is up to them to decide. Yeah, I agree; value is subjective; that's why a man gets to decide if a woman giving birth is most fairly dealt with by bankrolling her *everything,* and a woman is allowed to decide if a stay-at-home dad gives her enough value to do the same. The fact is you are experiencing a female loneliness epidemic because most men *are* willing to pay for most mothers *if* they are sane. Women, on average, are just managing to fuck *that* part up. Also not sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:19 PM
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Anyone I ran into with your combativeness What combativeness? We have women in here calling "delusional" the idea that a man should even ask for financial quality. That's combativeness; this is just a starting point. Of course, you can work out paying together if the staff is overworked, etc, but yeah some shoe should drop in terms of equality and what seems like a reluctance to communicate Half the time I get accused of gish gallop, and people just say, "I ain't reading all of that," or call me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:52 PM
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Men like the one who raped my daughter starting when she was 8 years old. And the woman who preyed on my older brother when she was like 20 and he was 13? The ciswoman who raped me as a cisman on a train and eventually sent me to a mental institution after I attempted suicide over it? The woman who threatened to falsely accuse my older brother of rape in his 20s, and the 8-year-old girl who falsely accused my 8-year-old brother? The two female perpetrators of domestic violence against men I've k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:47 PM
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The incentive is avoiding a female loneliness epidemic like women are currently experiencing, where they are getting whacked out on SSRIs and engaging in political lesbianism, and they are getting domestically abused and sexually assaulted at higher rates Like, I'm not actually sure pleb women *can* get away with *demanding* a man who bankrolls her everything anymore; she really was only able to get away with it from the late 1940s to the early 1970s, so I guess it was always to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:28 PM
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I'm genuinely baffled that people think "you can just communicate :D" is considered a rebuttal to this, to the point of downvoting my comment below. If you want this system, it needs to be communicated, and if you want another system, that also needs to be communicated, so it's totally irrelevant. You want the answer to be "let's talk about it" so the woman has an opportunity to try to steer the system away from equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:24 PM
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I'm genuinely baffled that people think "you can just communicate: D" is considered a rebuttal to this, to the point of downvoting my comment below. If you want this system, it needs to be communicated, and if you want another system, that also needs to be communicated, so it's totally irrelevant. You want the answer to be "leyt's talk about it" so the woman has an opportunity to try to steer the system away from equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:24 PM
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You think paying on the first date(s) gets you sex/appreciation and after that she will just pay for you? Not sex, I do think that women can be asked to go Dutch in this day and age, and this is just an alternate form of it Denial is a river in Egypt? For each one delusional like you, there are at least a 100 men willing to pay for the whole enchilada. 52% of women expect to split the bill on a date early in a relationship and I'm delusional? https://usnewsroom.bmo.com/2026-02-11-Date-flation-Hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:22 PM
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Yeah, hence why I said it was a stereotype or trope, but it has nothing to do with her washing *my* dishes, which was the implication
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:15 PM
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I don’t try to say that i don’t have disdain for men. It has been well earned. By what? Men being the majority of people arresting and prosecuting rapists and abusers, men being the majority of people who built your skyscrapers, and your home computer, etc.? He knows exactly how awful, disgusting and dangerous most men are. Sounds like somebody female MRAs would avoid a class as a creep, when a *men* is able to look at the radical feminist narrative of "men are all rapists and abusers and monste…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:13 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:01 PM
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Yes, and to some people, the people who raise the children have more power than the top politicians, religious leaders, and businessmen, so you wanting women to be the primary caregiver is you actually wanting women to have power over men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=646
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:59 PM
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Because when you don't pay for your meal at a restaurant, it's tradition (or a stereotype) that the *restaurant* makes you wash the *restaurant's* dishes until you pay for your meal in work, so they don't get the police involved The only example I can think of off the top of my head is Earthworm Jim's time machine restaurant, but I'm sure there are others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:57 PM
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who don’t let them make the decision on if they want to work Yeah, exactly, you genuinely think a woman giving birth is literally worth her not being expected to work *at all,* anywhere, ever, like people who hit the lottery and can retire at 22. Unregulated surrogates cost 80k, not "pay for my everything" More men die in workplace fatalities than women die in maternity, and many of them do it paying child support, and nobody gives a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:51 PM
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So you’re ignoring that men are 4000x more likely to abandon than a mother is to murder. No, I'm not; I'm saying murder is worse than abandonment. If it's 4000 abandoned vs 3999 abandoned, it's a fair comparison. If it's 4000 for every one deliberately killed, I do actually get to say the killing is worse. Again, providing you can source this there are between 11 million and 18 million children being raised by single moms, with absentee fathers. Source, please. I don't want you looking at 11 mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:43 PM
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What do you mean? You said, "Men tell us all the time that they don’t give a shit about a woman’s intelligence or achievements." Where are these men? '
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:34 PM
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Yes, and they shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:27 PM
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What? It's not like you enroll and then are instantly deployed, and troops can vote overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:28 AM
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I am that type of woman and I’m only willing to do that for a man who recognizes his inferiority. Your disdain for men is obvious and palpable Yeah, again, so many femdoms don't view sexual domination as play; they view it as some sort of actual statement about power and inferiority in society, and I think that's exactly how you find an abuser. There are all sorts of people who debate whether rape is about power or sex; you guys are saying your femdom is about power. And I refuse to believe I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:05 AM
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Yes, you agree to be drafted (or put in the Selective Service-type reserve system), and then you vote against the war It's pretty simple: if you have to be enrolled, you're not voting for war unless you need to. Show me how we are supposed to prevent war when people can vote for it without personal sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:42 AM
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agree to be drafted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:30 AM
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I stopped calling myself red pill because I like to use examples from fiction... like "the red pill vs the blue pill" :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxQskkZ78cs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:25 AM
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Surely you can see that removing women's rights is completely unfeasible and impractical? With women's right to vote, it's very possible we could move to a unisex opt in + opt out system for both a vote + the draft at the same time, and the practical effect of that would probably be that more men would make the sacrifice in practice and the voting base would become majority male for the first time since the 1970s. That wouldn't be the point, of course; it would be to stop people from voting for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:22 AM
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Millionaires count their pennies to exploit the working class and cheat them out of their fair wages. If you are implying that men exploit women in the same manner, l totally agree with you. No, I think consumerism causes the "capitalist class" of men to work themselves into a slow suicide. I just don't know whether the life expectancy toll on a CEO or a stay-at-home dad is worse <image> I do know that yes, most of these men are doing this to meet women's standards for financial provisioning No.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:35 AM
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You’re an annoying and terrible example because your disdain for women is obvious and palpable. Projection, furnish evidence. Because of that, the chances of you finding what you want in a woman are negligible. Evidence of that needed too r/MisogynyDating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:13 AM
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The point is, less children would die if more fathers stepped up Yeah the dad leaves and then mom kill them. That’s what happens. In your process of trying to villainize women, you drag men down too. I just told you that we always have more couples who want to adopt than we do babies available. She can bring the child for adoption at any police or fire station totally anonymously for free, and we haven't actually proved that the dad leaving is the cause or increases it with any data. This deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:54 AM
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I like the way you jiggle, weatherman https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-5-episode-4-cahill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:16 AM
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Nope hard disagree. The surrogate gets paid 80k not the kid. No, if the mother and father paid 40k each to hire a surrogate and then raised the baby, then hiring the surrogate would in fact be an 80k contribution from the parents to the child. So it works. I'm assuming there's no point really because the kid is supposed to inherit the 80k either way, but I suppose if you want the freedom to donate *all* your wealth to some godforsaken political club like my aunt intends to do when she dies, I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:09 AM
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You're suggesting women kill kids because the fathers walk away? The point is the opposite: the fathers *only* walk away; the mothers don't just walk away (or give the baby up for adoption when there are always more couples who want to adopt than there are babies available); they deliberately kill. By libertarian standards, the mother is worse: if you don't feed someone and they starve to death, that is not as bad as deliberately shooting that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:58 AM
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One partner temporarily gives up earning capacity while taking on pregnancy, recovery, I think, as other people are suggesting, all of that is an approx 80k sacrifice she makes for *the child.* It is fair to ask the man to contribute 80k *to the child* equally. I'm sorry, but it isn't fair that *she* be entitled to anything more. Dual stay-at-home parents during breastfeeding is a thing, and both the mother and the father can be expected to save up a fair 50% for that. When someone's out of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:55 AM
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I don't know if you've been reading my posts, but I have in fact been citing 80k as the figure that we can use to cap the "she gives birth and you don't" noise to persue a stay at home dad relationship all over this sub because it is in fact the max cost of an unregulated surrogate worldwide. Just that the man owes an 80k contribution *to the child,* like via a no-withdrawals-until-18 bank account, to justify 50% custody in a divorce in a state like Missouri; he doesn't owe *her* anything I came…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:40 AM
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Yes, there is. More men die of workplace injuries than women die in maternity. Jobs that involve a high risk of death are always given to the majority of men. And unregulated surrogates worldwide top out at 80k, most men contribute more than 80k per child in their life to their wives and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:33 AM
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That's why we need to drop this feminism nonsense and go back to when men were the head of the household and could tell women what to do. When was this? When women raised the children and thus got to brainwash the children into their pet religious and political beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:31 AM
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men tell us all the time that they don’t give a shit about a woman’s intelligence or achievements, How do you mean? It's more that women give a shit about men's intelligence or achievements more than men give a shit about women's intelligence or achievements because hypergamy to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:22 AM
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Women getting more rights does not take rights away from men. Yeah, but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with equality either. If there was a racist system where black people couldn't drive cars and white people couldn't ride bikes, and there was a group that *only* fixed the white people not being able to ride bikes part, they would be a group that wants equality *for* whites; it's not intellectually honest to label them as supporting racial equality broadly. Similarly, feminists have alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:20 AM
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are you an anti feminist blue piller?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:16 AM
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yeah but it's not 1 rape = 1 dead baby, someone could say 10 rapes = 1 dead baby, someone could say 1,000,000 rapes = 1 dead baby
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:15 AM
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Mothers kill the child 55% to 75% of the time compared to fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:14 AM
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Good, so why do you want a stay-at-home mom matriarchy? At least people who want an unironic patriarchy like Pearl Davis and Brian Martinez light up when you suggest the idea of a "patriarchy" of "all stay-at-home dads and single dad families, the men who don't want children can make up the top politicians, businessmen, artists, scientists, and philosophers, and then women can just work at McDonald's" because supporting the idea that women are the better primary caregivers was always having the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:27 AM
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You're still doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:21 AM
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Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:21 AM
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How am I an "annoying and terrible example?" I'm probably the one on this sub willing to make the most sacrifices for their children, and I think when whatever overlap of women who want to be female breadwinners and who happen to be anti-feminists finds me, they are gonna get wet as a waterfall; I might just find my wife in the honey badger discord Gay and bi men aren't misogynists, dude, it's just that we don't need women in the same way straight men do, so we can talk about women with no filte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:19 AM
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Projection. This thread is about calling out a double standard where it's considered a form of rape for a man to expect a woman to do stuff to him if she finishes first, but the gender opposite doesn't work. That is WOMEN's entitlement with flying colors. Gay and bi men aren't misogynists, dude, it's just that we don't need women in the same way straight men do, so we can talk about women with no filter. We have studies that show when women are treated equally to men, it's viewed as misogyny, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:17 AM
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How is this the parallel to the orgasm debate? The female orgasm *quantity* gap's mirror is the male orgasm *quality* gap, where when women DO cum, they have multiple orgasms, see shapes, and go to outer space, and sometimes do it without touching themselves at all etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:12 AM
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I sense sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:10 AM
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Yes, I saw. Who cares, though? What do you think I meant by demand? I mean I'm not seeing her again if she doesn'nt do it, that is all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:45 AM
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yeah what makes you think I didn't basically mean me saying this: me: if you get this one, I can pay for the next one if you want a [third] date It's just if she's not on board with equality (or if she didn't insist on paying for herself) she can take a hike
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:26 AM
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It's not really dancing around; it's just another form of splitting 50- 50. If you're suggesting that I should just demand 100% payment because I want to be the primary caregiver and I want her as the breadwinner, say that, and then sort all of this out in a fight to the death with the people here who want a "the person who asks out pays" system, because that will never be in men's favor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:15 AM
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no, women or men, I am ok being called a future house bitch as a guy into reversal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:02 AM
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Because you want to be the primary caregiver, or because you want to be the maid to a rich man? If you want equality (or if I want to be a primary caregiving dad) there is no reason you are owed a damn thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:00 AM
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oh lol, but then I used request Is this who women are? You say "demand" instead of another word and suddenly they are filled with images of domestic violence or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:49 AM
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No, I just mean that trans girls are humbler and less entitled than cis girls on average. Because life shits on trans women like how it shits on cis men and that creates humility Squirting is "fake" female ejaculation because it's mostly pee, women who don't squirt still produce a small amount of "real" ejaculation, just sort of a quarter teaspoon of some sperm-like goo If you are anything other than a gay man, you asking this question is kinda self-reporting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:48 AM
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Men who need to count their pennies shouldn't be dating in the first place. What do you mean? Sometimes the richest people around count their pennies; that's how they got to be rich. Everybody has that one friend who has that millionaire friend and says, "You would never tell it, because he buys the same pleb Walmart clothes and follows the same frugality tips most middle-class plebs do" and they don't do their chores Where is this coming from? Is this you getting personal because you know I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:18 AM
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Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to *request* payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:01 AM
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Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to *request* payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:01 AM
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Actually, when did I say demand? I said it's crass to demand 50% on the first date, and it's ok to *request* payment on the second. Does "request" sound a little less domestic violence-y to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:01 AM
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Because it's not about what words "objectively" mean, it's about what you mean when you use a word https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ Hence I asked her for *her* definition of demand
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:56 AM
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So what are you? "men should buy women things because fuck em?" This is why screening is needed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:55 AM
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What if it wasn't a game? What if it's just "pay 50%"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:44 AM
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"Your suggestion is strange because it involves me paying for things anywhere ever"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:34 AM
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Thanks for the 100 karma https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v4iqa8/comment/ozcvp5u/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:17 AM
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Great, go argue with the people who made the feminist statistics and tell my gfs to last longer, reply notification off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:15 AM
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No, I do. I've only gone wanting like 5 times I've gotten started up vs the 10,000 or so times if you include masturbations since I was nine. It is genuinely torture; I'm not a rapist and I can go wanting a 6th time, but then she can find someone else. The only time I could get into it is just now, if it worked into a femdom thing, and then she needs to do *that* so yeah she needs to do *something*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:06 AM
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So you can solve the contradiction the other way and just agree that feminists are wrong and that "if you're not puttin out, i'm movin on" isn't really rape? As was the point of the satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:54 AM
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So is the "economic coercion" of a man controlling a stay-at-home mom's livelihood if she doesn't fuck him ok as long as he just bails *without* giving her the option to fuck him first? If he just leaves and doesn't tell her? When the blue pill is supposed to be about communication? lol I love feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:47 AM
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Oh it's worse than that. You can have a situation where two breadwinners have an equal salary, but they have different numbers of kids, or you can have a situation where two breadwinners have different salaries, but the homemaker's job is the same for different salaries You're supposed to swallow that inequality *because* if it's trad, there are economic benefits and greater stability, or if it's a reversal it's because there are economic benefits and benefits to the children, in involved father…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:32 AM
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No there are men on here who like me https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1uzha1i/comment/oyxvthr/ There are also people in real life and people in the mens rights subs who love me https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v4iqa8/is_the_idea_of_women_finishing_before_men_really/ The very first time I said on the men's rights sub, "I want to put alimony in my favor to compensate for a lack of domestic violence and grape services" I was shocked when it got 10 upvotes. Having never …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:03 AM
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I'm guessing it works really well for you. Yeah, this is the problem: people come up with ideas about how they should try to *start* dating they think will work for *them* as an individual, and you can just blow ALL of it off with "well it didn't work for you yet, so eat shit loser." I think that's a fallacy, but I don't know which one I hear "demand" and I picture a man who views dating as a transactional act. I hear "I don't want equality by paying you" and I'm thinking she views it as a trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:55 AM
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I don't know, if it's repeatedly lopsided in your relationship, then that should be addressed, but I don't eat significantly more than most women as a man, maybe just an ounce of protein more And again, an opportunity to screen people if they are intentional dicks, better to screen a witch who plays this game out on the second date instead of her playing some sort of game with the custody of my children in five years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:49 AM
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The Webster Dictionary definition. "a : an act of demanding or asking especially with authority a demand for obedience" Circular reasoning "b : something claimed as due or owed the demands of the workers' union" Yes, I am claiming she owes me a meal after I give her the first one. That is a "demand" for equality. This is why dictionary definitions are *bad* arguments "But I'm guessing this works out very well for you and you have many successful second dates." No dude, your flair literally says …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:39 AM
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But then do sober women take advantage of drunk men more often than the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:29 AM
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when switch me dated if I was dating a guy who was my sub, I paid, a Dom, they paid. No man ever had a problem with it, except for some blushing from subs. Yeah, that's another weird thing: professional paid doms are considered ok but paying a pro sub is frowned upon, but then when it comes to relationships rather than hired work, it switches
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:28 AM
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Yeah, like when autistic people turn to communication books and job interview books, those are people looking to figure out how to "demand" raises and promotions from their boss What do you guys mean by "communicate instead?" You mean on the first date, offer to pay 100%, then say, "but you pay 100% next time" and do it at the start of the date? Who is suggesting that "you pay me now" on the second date isn't communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:23 AM
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Definition of demand No, she gets one free meal. If she wants meal #3 on me, she has to show a willingness to pay for meal #2; she needs to demonstrate equality. The only alternative to equality in this are would be *her* paying for everything since I refuse to not be the primary caregiver, me asking for equality *instead* of a full reversal is me being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:18 AM
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If you goal is to save money, just invite her over for sex. My personal goal is for her to demonstrate an understanding of equal responsibility so I know she a good candidate for motherhood If you can't get her to agree to a booty call then maybe just spend the money and focus on getting to know her. What? Why do I have to pay to *get to know her?* Why can't we equally pay for each other while we do that? "If you can't get her to agree to casual sex," maybe I don't really want casual sex? Revers…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:15 AM
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Yes, if she refuses to pay, and I pay for only my meal because I don't want to see her again, she has to pay for her own meal, wash dishes, or deal with the police Because you cannot pay for the food you just ate by ordering more food https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-9-episode-2-live-at-the-fillmore
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:08 AM
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I don't know that it is *that* much more common, but I can see pro-male arguments like this, why you wouldn't want it It's just, at the end of the day, if it gets your foot in the door and then you can "woo" her into an equal 50%ish contribution, yeah, I'm going with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:05 AM
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That's not strange at all, that's a pretty typical gender slavery cult
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:03 AM
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It's not about whether she thinks I'm trad, it's just that she can get the benefit of that arrangement without the detriment, so she's more inclined to let me get my foot in the door
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:02 AM
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What is your definition of that? My definition of it is I just won't date them again, and maybe I only pay for myself and she washes dishes if she genuinely can't pay for her meal. If she wants to make equality "negotiable" on the second date that's a "no," I am the prize
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:00 AM
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So you mean throw in a little "you pay me next time and we call it fair" as I pay on the first date, and then it's not a "demand?" And what's wrong with "demanding" 50%? The only thing that makes these "demands" rather than "requests" is that she's not getting a second date out of me if she declines; we're not talking about beating women into payment Or I guess she gets to explain to the cops why she dined and dashed after I pay for myself alone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:58 AM
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t baffles me how so many of these scenarios can be addressed with a conversation. Yeah, like a conversation by me on the second date of "fuck you pay me"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:55 AM
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Yeah that's "how to use whichever system of dutch we use," not "which form of Dutch is the correct one"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:54 AM
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How am *I* backing down from relationships? Other men are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwK5gfz7F1I I'm just enjoying my monopoly by being one of the brave souls willing to deal with the insanity Unless you meant other men aren't defending unreasonable women; only women and myself are? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:44 AM
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Yeah, why did you read it wrong in the first place? Because you *want* it to be true? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:42 AM
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Most other red pill women, because there's kind of a "created sick but commanded to be well" thing they like to do with men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:39 PM
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Because you want the other person to like and enjoy sex with you, so that they might do it again, obviously Yeah of course, so why don't women give me a hand job when they finish first and just go to sleep? Because it's considered rape when men have that expectation, as you can see from the person in this comment section saying "so you're mad someone didn't suck you off?" and of course this is about a sex worker, who doesn’t actually want to have sex with you I said IN THE COMMENT YOU ARE REPLYI…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:27 PM
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No, I didn't, I responded to one person by saying, "you think this is one of those 'my friend has this problem' situations?" and the next morning you had four of these comments in my inbox, so I'm thinking I gave you the idea The way "my friend has this problem" works is when someone's asking for advice, not when someone is issuing a "how things should work" argument, Fallacy of confusing "is" with "should"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:24 PM
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And again, you can find sexual assault statistics that are broken down into the subcategory "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." By that logic, when a guy's a premature ejaculator, and she says, "eat box or finger or I'm moving on," that's considered rape. You can tell by someone else complaining, "You're mad she didn't suck you off?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:21 PM
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"The bags of sand people are referring to is from the movie "40 year old virgin" where an inexperienced man claims that women's breasts feel like bags of sand and everyone realises he's never touched one. " YEAH I KNOW THE REFERANCE, if you told some people men are raped by women, or how the forskin works, you'll get the same kind of treatment, so as far as I can tell, girls finishing too fast is just anothing thing that men are shamed into not talking about. In fact i saw somebody bully someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:15 PM
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Who said rich woman? Just a woman who can earn for my kids. When did I say I'm not attractive? You're confusing me with an incel, liek a real one. I have a few setbacks in terms of physical attractiveness, but overall I'm ok, and I've literally never complained about that. You're delusional if you think men will put up with a mom who expects her parents to take care of her kids, 44% of women report a partner breaking up with them over their feminist beliefs, most of them wanted their husbands to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:14 PM
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So which is it? Am I a troll, or am I a real-life premature ejaculator asking about "my friends problem?" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:10 PM
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So when she finishes first, I get to say "hand job or blowjob, or it's over," and I'm not a rapist? Threatening to break up with someone if they don't fuck you is considered rape. You can go argue with the guy who says, "So you're mad she didn't suck you off" if you disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:09 PM
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How it feels when your sex life is *literally* *incredible* to hundreds of male feminists and cat ladies https://np.reddit.com/r/shitpostbound/comments/1v6z8mi/ihavesex/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:07 PM
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Yes, lol at the cat ladies and desperate male feminists in this comment section who think they figured out the one time "girls want sex over and over" is a more believable stereotype than "guy wants sex and girl doesn't" lol https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v4iqa8/comment/ozf5t6d/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:05 PM
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Projection. This thread is about calling out a double standard where it's considered a form of rape for a man to expect a woman to do stuff to him if she finishes first, but the gender opposite doesn't work. That is WOMEN's entitlement and lack of logic with flying colors. This comment section shows why MEN are backing down from relationships, because when women *are* irrational, 95% of both men and women will defend them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:02 PM
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Yeah, who's "them?" Can you and the 6 other people who upvoted this not read? I said IN THE COMMENT YOU ARE REPLYING TO this has happened with other girls and the camgirl was just one girl of many. Of course *she's* coming back because I'm paying her; what about the other ones? I'm just throwing in the camgirl to prove you can't chalk it up to a skill issue It doesn't matter; there's another guy below who did this trick by pretending it's *only* one cam girl, so I simply need to acknowledge that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:54 PM
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Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:39 PM
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Then why does she fuck me again and again later?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:38 PM
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Then why does she fuck me again and again later?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:38 PM
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Yeah, and why isn't that considered rape? You can find actual sexual assault surveys that are broken down into categories where one of them is "verbal coercion - threatened to leave the relationship." When a woman says "finger me or eat me or I'm dumping you" to a premature ejaculator, it's not considered rape. But when I say "she finished first and then didn't do anything," it's viewed as rapey entitlement, like below, where one guy says "so you're mad she didn't suck you off?" when I try to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:37 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Women can go like three times in a row, whereas most guys need like a 20-minute break, so the men finishing first have an excuse, and the women have none. And then they fuck me again a few days later so it wasn't a fake orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:33 PM
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No, you shouldn't be required to contribute to something just because you benefit from it; you should be obligated to contribute if you cause a detriment to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:30 PM
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There is a thread either here or in the global male association/pro male association a few weeks ago about how Singapore was openly imposing harsher punishments for men and boys
/r/MensRights26/07/26 02:20 AM
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I would say I'm a women's rights advocate, and that women's rights advocates are 1000s of years older than feminists
/r/MensRights26/07/26 12:18 AM
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I said anal stretching stretches your ass out permanently, "worse than when girls have anal sex," not "worse than when girls practice equivalent anal stretching." It has no female/male element to it whatsoever, just that having a penis penetrate your ass isn't as permanently altering as stretching it out.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 05:43 PM
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Yeah, I've heard it's pleasurable but also that it stretches out your ass permanently, like worse than when girls have normal anal sex
/r/MensRights25/07/26 08:59 AM
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I don't want plastic in my ass, and honestly, it just seems like it would be easier for someone else to fully reach there than me I'm not worried about being gay if I'm openly bi. If I was interested in seriously dating trans women (because I have been with a few) I would let a real penis enter me. It's just, again, I am seeking ciswomen only because I want a long-term monogamous LTR with biological kids.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 08:57 AM
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\Making rape gender neutral in US.* \ Successfully changing the legal definition of rape to include men as victims, instead of just women. ([article]* They changed the definition of rape so that people with mouths and anuses who could be penetrated would be counted, which includes some fringe of men. Feminists such as Mary Koss have deliberately stood in the way of getting "made to penetrate" treated as rape, which is like 48% of rapes. We can assume feminists just wanted female victims of mouth…
/r/MensRights25/07/26 04:23 AM
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reply notification off
/r/MensRights24/07/26 09:27 AM
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your comment is the most bot-like to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00dhw3m3Ts
/r/MensRights24/07/26 09:21 AM
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The Scotsman, I haven't heard of them since they were used as a source for the Wikipedia goatse article
/r/MensRights24/07/26 03:50 AM
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Yeah, I used to debate if I should get into anal stretching, like the goatse guy. There was a long press interview once with "son of goatse," another anal stretcher. He used to say to get started with candles. then move up to shampoo bottles I decided against it; I think stretching is actually a far greater long-term detriment than just standard anal
/r/MensRights24/07/26 03:01 AM
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Well, I am actually an anal virgin (and only seeking ciswomen for kids). I never want to be pegged, but I would ok with a woman using her hands, but she probably won't lol
/r/MensRights24/07/26 02:37 AM
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Yeah but it's harder for them, especially circumcised.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 01:54 AM
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(noticed that a mod marked this as NSFW for me, sorry I didn't do it if I was supposed to :3)
/r/MensRights24/07/26 01:03 AM
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The woman finishing first was true, the fake hypothetical "I shouldn't have to please my partner if I'm a male premature ejaculator" was taken seriously
/r/MensRights23/07/26 10:47 PM
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Yeah, it sucks when guys are like that too, but it's not gendered. The social expectation as to when it's ok or not, or whether it even happens, is gendered
/r/MensRights23/07/26 09:14 PM

And we aren't. We are saying men could be more efficient as house, thus it fucks up they claim they nessessarily doing less housewor Edit because im banned: im tired of your anecdotes. No offense but you are a zex worker or similar gfe type worker, yes? Those men soundblike a selected group, one that is more likely to have messy men in it The closest alternative is the also cherry picked "male living spaces" memes that show almost no messy nessessary, only simplicity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:17 PM
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Yeah you aren't paying attention
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:16 PM
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Yeah and I can not want to be with someone at all if they dont want to do anything after they finish and im not finished
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:15 PM
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No you said "she's already doing too much if your orgasming already," not "your already doing too much if she's orgasming already"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:02 PM
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Yeah I said "unless you mean outerxourse," that's included. I do that, it's just the dirty talking that needs an ltr so I know what im doing Edit again because im banned: Source that includes fingering as a form of outercourse Wikipedia (Non-penetrative sex page) includes it. It defines non-penetrative sex/outercourse as activity that “usually does not include sexual penetration, but some forms, particularly when termed outercourse, include penetrative aspects, that may result from forms of fing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:00 PM
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I dont have a problem with her orgasming, I have a problem with her not doing anything afterwards to get me off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:59 PM
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You said "yeah sure" like the obvious assumption is that I am a misogynist, whereas most people have a biological "protect the woman" urge so it doesn't make sense to assume random people are misogynists as a motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:58 PM
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You mean the part where I say it's not really a problem for me? At the start, and so this should all be assumed to be hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:56 PM
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Yeah only one was a squirter so whatever "Your paying someone for a job" yes that's the point, she makes money if she keeps going but even she stopped Why do I care about this convo when a woman has been touching me for 15 minutes, this girls not done in 3 minutes, gtfo my eyeballs because this isn't kinky anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:52 PM
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And I dont have to do anything if she finishes in a minute? Because the answer is i do, and it's "i have to fap." It's not the same with the genders reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:47 PM
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Your saying "sure thing" like it should just be obvious to everyone that I am a misogynist, but everyone has a bioligical urge to prefect women built in, so almost nobody anywhere is a true misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:44 PM

You said "Women don’t suck you off" and then I said "I don't really like blowjobs" so I wasn't going off topic This isn't incoherent dude, your just being a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:42 PM

Thank you for being the only person who can read, I would give you an award if I wasn't getting a handjob right now and could sort out my debit card problem Goodnight reddit yyyyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:39 PM
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I dont know why they dont want to NOT get started again, because if they get started again then they have to finish again. I like my refractory peroid where I can get distracted before I would be ready to go again, because otherwise I would always be fucking or fapping, or I would always have to walk away relied up but never finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:35 PM
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The camgirl tells what? Like why aren't these women leaving? Why do they take my dick 10 more times? And again i know squirtoling is mostly pee, I dont care, I'm into actual pee sometimes too, it's just well, it's also 10% not pee, that's the real magic :3 Edit because im banned: i said I was paying for ONE girl. The point is, she was being paid to stretch her session out and she ended it. And the bigger point was they do the same thing if I pay or if it's free. Always the dumbest people who pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:30 PM
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Right, and that not the problem, it's that she cums almost immediately, so i have to be lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:26 PM
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I have no idea where the crashing our is in that post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:25 PM
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Not every time they orgasm, and squirting isn't quite a 1:1 with their orgasms of course, but I assume it's a reliable ish benchmark for an orgasm (and i know it's mostly pee and I do not give a fuck, you have a problen with nestle hordeing all the water, so do i) I'll be back in 8 hours because im in bed with someone whose reading this saying "not me" so let's trust but verfy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:22 PM
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No we chatted for a while, she was supposed to help me with an AI project but that never materialized I mean we saw eachother later and had sexy times (just like most of these girls) so that doesn't sound like faking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:12 PM
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Challenge 1: You're trying to say the person you're having sex with understands your body and orgasm cycle better than you do. If that's true, that's a you problem. Your partner can tell you what works for them. They cannot tell you exactly how close you are to orgasm. No, they can tell how close *they* are to orgasm, and they can use this cheap trick to drag and drop *me* around. Challenge 2: Yes, if your partner wants you to last longer, they should absolutely help accommodate that. That might…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:06 PM
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That doesn't explain the squirting, that doesn't explain why I have to be the one to break up with them (or why it ends much later), and it doesn't explain why a camgirl would finish before me (she would've made more money if she went again, especially if she got me to finish via her repeating :P)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:01 PM
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Where is this "allusion"? Was it because I said "really"? Yeah, it happened *once*, and it wasn't an ongoing medical issue. There are two other guys who have said a few times that they came first when they were young; nobody is dogpiling them as problem cases. I think this is all a distraction so that nobody has to address the double standard.. or the actual arguments. The only other time it happened was when I was raped by a woman, but iIf this is about to become a discussion about how I wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:58 AM
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How? Tell me what you don't understand. This is why I call you a bully; you're like one of those negligent half-assed toxic parent types, where it's like "they have colors because they have scanners in there or something, use your head" https://youtu.be/MtK11FJSQBY?t=210
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:48 AM
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You said "Women don’t suck you off " and then I said "I don't really like blowjobs" so I wasn't going off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:44 AM
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It's not really inconsistent because if I had to pick one half of the contradiction to push, it would be the one I advanced in the op; that 1st challenge is actually a fantasy of mine (and something that comes up while fapping). It's just that the double standard undeniably exists, and upholding the double standard is always the weakest argument If you are just gonna bail with "i will find someone better," my problem is that is just the mechanism of enforcement; the question of "whose burden is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:43 AM
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No, now that I've nailed it, I'm not. I was pissed because I thought people were just being really, really stupid, like the kind of stupid that erodes my faith in humanity, where they literally cannot read the screen But go on thinking that the fireworks I had with a girl last week were totally imaginary and that I'm suffering dick issues, I'll be laughing behind my keyboard too at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:34 AM
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I was oversimplifying; it's a conditional argument: either both of us have to take care of it ourselves, or neither does. I have had experiences where she finished first, and I had to take care of myself by myself, so all we need to figure out is if it *should* have worked that way, and then we have an answer for the opposite gender Because everyone's answer is just "you should leave your partner" when maybe I can stay with the same partner, where we could figure out something consistent, *if* I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:28 AM
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What going on here is bags of sand obvious. What? You're saying they are faking and then not wanting more because they think I suck? Because one of the women (not all of them, there were real women and real for free sex too) was, in fact, MRA camgirl Anna Cherry, she finished before me when we were listening to a F4F audio together She was getting paid by the minute, so she had every incentive to continue etc, after, but she didn't. I mean I guess you can't chalk that one up to my ability, but s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:21 AM
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It's not a tangent, you said "I care about sex, wait no I care about LTRs" and the rest of my post set up that response You said "Dude has never had sex before clearly," that was the "i care about sex" part, and then you said " I'm married with kids so I'm not interested in adding to my tally" was the "wait no I care about LTRs" part Again, tired of people pretending something is off topic when they don't understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:15 AM
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Yes, I said it's not the premature ejaculator's job, not that I myself am a premature ejaculator. I am the opposite. I have been subject to women who finish early, and I'm expected to take care of my needs myself and not complain, so the same can be expected of women when men do finish early, especially because men have much stronger refractory peroids
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:13 AM
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Well, that woman (Allison) actually self-identifies as a misogynist, and I don't do that, but I do self-identify as a rape apologist to try to match her awesome power, so whatever Keep thinking that the logical explanation is that everyone has a biological urge to protect women, but you can assume misogyny as a motive so wantonly, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:09 AM
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"It's a you problem if me hypothetically finishing first would be a me problem, a "better" partner would only make it worse" - this is just a salad of words that don't make any sense. What do you mean? Me finishing first would be a "me problem." This whole discussion (in case you aren't paying attention) is about YOU finishing first and leaving ME hanging. That would be a YOU problem. Hence: I don't see why i should dance around guy who can't please me. This doesn't make sense because this whole…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:01 AM
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Omg I need to become a sex slave again, not to prove you wrong that I can get puss, just because I need to escape all the "i care about sex, wait no I care about LTRs" bullshit people like you spew
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:56 AM
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I like women, for 12 years now I have always followed female MRAs way more than any male MRAs or any male in the manosphere https://youtu.be/bg8ciNTox6g?t=4077 But if you're not one of the women who listens, then go off with your bad self
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:52 AM
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So are you asserting that I'm lying when I say I'm not the one with the problem? You think this is one of those "my friend has this problem" type questions? Or have you again failed to read before firing off like 6 of these comments in one of those Reddit bullying drive-byes? Or have I wandered onto a forum with a bunch of Danica Patricks who are coping and projecting *hard?*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:49 AM
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What do you mean better? It's a you problem if me hypothetically finishing first would be a me problem, a "better" partner would only make it worse You mean now there's an onus on your partner to escalate you slowly? Where's the part where you do anything for anyone else other than "be a woman whose not fat or old"? I think people really hit a mental block where they can't imagine a girl finishing first, and you keep experiencing gynocentric backwash where you think I'm inferior in bed somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:45 AM
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The mere fact that any guy with this problem has to think and negotiate so much means sex isn't that enjoyable, not just because of PE but because the person himself isn't great to spend intimate time with. lol what? Is it really an offensive concept that if my gf tells me something turns her off a little, and something that turns her on, I should say the thing that turns her on when I'm about to finish and vice versa? Like I can tell three sentences to people, and they will say "too complicated…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:41 AM
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Projection, I had the best sex of my life last week that awoke my submissive side, it just didn't turn into an LTR so I'm seeking a temporary arrangement until I get the 40,000 cold approaches needed to find my future wife I prob have a larger body count than you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:33 AM
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"Women don’t suck you off "
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:30 AM
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You mean them and not me, right? Because this is like the number #1 case of people reading the title and not the text I've ever seen on Reddit, I will assume 90% of people on Reddit are like that from now on (explains alot)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:29 AM
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Yes, I understand why the first guy has a more legitimate complaint, because I at least can find partners in the first place and that's better than nothing If you mean to ask if I understand why incels are considered rapey, no, I do not, because incels have killed a few dozen people tops; feminists are responsible for millions dead via the tender years doctrine and lopsided domestic violence policy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:28 AM
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I don't see how they're rapey, because their biggest negative quality is that they are balckpill. I told them I was going to try to find what I was looking for in an LTR via mass cold approach, and they were talking about how I should be afraid of getting arrested So they aren't rapey, because they are convinced they are never going to have sex, hence not rapey :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:25 AM
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I don't know what to tell you, man; that's a joke. Did I need to Google premature ejaculation? Because that's the most advanced term I used here, and I realized in the comment section I used the wrong term, because it's something different when women finish first. If I was googling scientific terms for women finishing first, I probably would have found one. I don't know why anyone should fucking listen to you when you have done nothing but bully, saying shit like "your dreamgirl will be too ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:23 AM
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WHO'S A PREMATURE EJACULATOR??? CAN NO ONE READ? I talking about my WOMEN finishing first This makes me think that we need to revamp the English language so that adding the word "no" to a sentence completely changes ALL of the other words, because it's not hard for people to misread with half a burrito in their mouth and spew the total OPPOSITE of reality Edit: the problem is that women get off and I din't. It's not a "my lobster is too buttery" problem unless you define sex as the woman getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:17 AM
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If the woman is responsible for her own orgasm because men climax and pass out, then why bother being in a relationship, if she needs to take matters into her own hands? Because I'm also responsible for my own orgasms when women finish and pass out Men aren't responsible for providing. Only 16% female breadwinners and only 29% of couples in equal relationships while doing as little chores Yeah, you're not going to be the first person to address the half dozen statistical fallacies in the studies…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:14 AM
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lol, if you believe the orgasm gap statistics, it's statistically far more likely I am pissing off some cat ladies epically with this one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:04 AM
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does not want to women to use him for his money LOL, You said that was a LOL moment, not me can’t last in bed and thinks that if he can’t control how fast he busts a nut No, read, it's these women who keep finishing before me; there just isn't a name for "premature orgasm" separate from "premature ejaculation" it’s the woman’s job to magically stop it, It's not magic; I'm telling you what works, and you won't listen. It's so hard for a man to find a woman who knows how to listen; that's probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:04 AM
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Yeah, the first guy got a more legitimate complaint, but the second guy's problems are entertained more by society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:59 AM
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Oh god I don’t know what world you’re living in that not being able to last in bed is considered “too good” The world where I'm not the premature ejaculator (or premature orgasmer,) the women are. You just aren't paying attention. When she's a primie, it's my problem (people are already blaming me in the comments). If I were a primie, it would be ALSO be my problem, and then the bullying I would be expected to receive in forums like this over it would also be my problem Like, this is the bullyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 AM
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The distribution of household labor should be equal (adjusted to working hours, possibly). No, I'm tired of this. If both partners work full time but one earns 10k and the other 90k, there needs to be *something* to balance it out even if you can't go full divison of labor there based on hours worked. Because then you have partners getting token jobs that don't contribute just to avoid housework and we flush the economic benefits of specialization Gary Becker outlined in his Theory of Marriage i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:49 AM
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Yeah dude, ask people what makes incel etc rapey; they'll literally just say "they want things." So wanting consensual sex = wanting to rape to most feminists, which is kinda why Feminism is like the Abrahamic faiths too (if you've only thought about sex, you commit the same sin)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:42 AM
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Is her doing nothing afterwards also the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:36 AM

Dude it’s not like you couldn’t orgasm and needed her to put in extra work to help with that. Yes, she can. She can do what female rapists do and thrust for power instead of sex, she can spit on me and whip me with a belt and that will make it happen sooner (or really, I'm learning I really excel at submission, because it actually just gives me more control over my sexual pacing overall, rather than just making me finish) We have the technology too: she could just smack your dick limp every 10se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:35 AM
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Perhaps start your journey into attracting more compatible women by not referring to women (any women. Ever.) as “pleb girls” and “bitches” Why? Some women really love it when you trash talk other women and at least try to understand whether women’s aversion to you being a stay at home dad is about more than “wanting your money” Ok, I understand it as being about them wanting money, because of the women who will just come out and say it on Reddit and get 50 upvotes for it. (I love SAHDs conceptu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:28 AM
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Hmm I guess I meant premature orgasm, but there is a proper female ejacu seperate from squirt And also trans girls are better lays than cis girls, I have zero complaints *there,* absolute heaven
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:25 AM
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Yeah, my foreplay sucks; I just don't get foreplay in a casual encounter. That's an LTR thing. Like, it's not me being an asshole; I genuinely don't have any material for it if I don't know her well enough. Unless you just mean outercourse or making out etc Them being able to have multiple orgasms usually solves being premature if my fingers do the job before my dick even goes in. No, that's the pain in the ass part to me; she at least knows that I *have* a refractory period and she can call her…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:21 AM
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I actually don't like blowjobs, honestly, they are just a warm up But I knew we'd get to a double standard where I'd be accused of rape-y shit no matter what my problem was
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:11 AM
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And look at all the skyscrapers and computer chips built by women Look at this woman who turned an Atari 800 computer from the 1980s into a laptop for zero profit, just because she felt like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toycgEcVNxI SO much laze by men, much mental gymnastics Edi: im not changing the subject. You made the subject "man are lazy" and I am disproving that Again, the fact is we have a half dozen statistical fallcaies associated with the data that "proves" men don't pull their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:08 AM
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If you’re sleeping with women who don’t give you head and who, as you’ve stated in your comments, “want your money,” it sounds like you either (1) have terrible judgment in women on the front end Well, I get like 50 downvotes and women saying, "Why should she let you be a stay-at-home dad when she gets preg, and you don't? You need to bring somethiiiing financial to the table" getting 50 upvotes for that, the noraml thing is that bitches are supposed to want money from me or (2) are the kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:59 AM

Way to blame your partner for not being able to last in bed 👏🏻 Yeah, forget these women lol; they should undergo genital mutilation like I did if they want to last Go cure a woman of vaginismus then talk. We have the technology: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:53 AM
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I honestly can't explain the first half any more simply than I have She's demanding equality when the guy finishes first and has to muff dive; She's demanding inequality when she just wants to cuddle instead of helping me fix my clog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwK1spnyMU
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:37 AM
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That's because you are trying to lead with money 🤷‍♂️ And who's problem is that? How am I leading with money? I tell women I want to be a stay-at-home dad, and then they bitch that I don't want to provide them with money The men whom they enjoy having sex with are giving them good sex. You want those women more badly than they want you. And that's who's problem again? Theirs, because I usually leave them. I tell them I want to stay at home dad-ary; they say "no," and then they *don't* leave, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:31 AM
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"Premature" = you are reasonably obligated to help your partner reach theirs, and if you don't make a serious attempt with an appropriate skill, you're a bad lover. Great, so where's all the blowjobs and handjobs from these women finishing first? Nowhere, so I'm movin on we are not done until we are both done. Anyone who can't do that whether it's selfishness or their own performance issues, is a bad lay. We could talk about tessellation. I always try to make her finish, but sometimes in the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:24 AM
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Yeah, that's the problem, I need someone who fuck guud, and I'm surrounded by pleb women who don't know how to fuck guud but want my money anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:21 AM
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If she doesn’t like your performance, she just doesn’t come back for more Yeah, and I can do that too, when, according to your second line, I'm doing too much for her lazy ass
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:18 AM
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Which one's my problem and which one's her problem???? As a man, every problem is our problem, is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:17 AM
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So whose problem is it when the girls lose their shit before I do? Let me guess, that's ALSO my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:15 AM
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Both partners don't want the relationship to be "transactional," but both partners want the other to pull their weight eh? Oldest trick in the book: when you get less, demand equality; when you have more, demand inequality. I bear witness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poFlE2qs-o0
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:13 AM
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It's just supposed to be a comparison between two opposites regardless of how common they are. Feminists are bitching that women are getting the male maids they deserve inside of an uncommon relationship, so it was always a part of the question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:18 AM

Do you think most stay-at-home tradwife lumps of crap, or women who just work a little at McDonald's, need all their education? Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:47 AM

Please make an argument for why being a stay at home parent is not a vulnerability. With actual points Because it protects your custody in court Because alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:46 AM

But many women, including myself DO acknowledge that men face these things So why can’t you just acknowledge that childbirth and pregnancy are hard on women to experience? That’s literally all we’re asking for ok if that's ALL you're asking for, sure: pregnancy can be hard. Now do it, just like how your answer to men dying building cell phone towers is "do it anyway" Because this wasn't all you were asking for, you were asking for an allowance/nest egg system
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:41 AM
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Is this about my foreskin? It's about my foreskin, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:33 AM
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Men are just lazier than women. Lol, yeah men just lazied up all the skyscrapers and your home computer and all that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:32 AM

Men’s biggest problem in everything is their shame. I'm like the most shameless person on here ("earn money bitch" and talking about how I like to be spit on), and I get downvoted a majority of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:11 AM
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because I don't live on reddit https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1v1dud6/comment/oyt81io/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:31 AM
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A 2019 study by Hirsch et al. (published in PLOS ONE) specifically put the stereotype to the test. With 96 participants (balanced by sex), they measured sequential multitasking (task-switching) and concurrent multitasking (dual-tasking) across multiple performance-cost indices for both reaction time and accuracy. They also controlled for working memory, processing speed, spatial ability, and fluid intelligence. Result: substantial multitasking costs overall, but zero significant gender differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:30 AM
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No, we presented a moral should of "men should only have to pay for the elaborateness they cause," and you responded, "you know you should clean up someone else's elaborateness if you know what's good for you, little man" Excuse me while i spend the next half hour with my phone and earbuds in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 AM

Okay then are men’s dwelling spaces messier than women’s? No https://youtu.be/ZZTGiotp_AM?t=13 There was one actually messy area, like the stains on the bed, and that was the first one she showed. Nothing else was messy, just simple enough that she was freaking out over them Edit because im banned: yes it's a reaction video and not a study, it beats NOTHING but the "trust me bro" of anecdotal evidence. Otherwise we have no data so far
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:20 AM
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Ok, does the research you are presenting still have all the problems of the dozens of other housework studies? if they are testing for the reason behind it And they are doing that how?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:16 AM
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No this is sophistry, the whole argument is a rebuttal to feminists bitching about what male maids supposedly do This whole discussion is all four categories: stay-at-home moms and dads, and male and female breadwinners omg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:14 AM
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Yeah when you can just insert a baby into your living room while you watch TV, you can cut down your leisure time in polls, derp
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:12 AM
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The woman above describes it as a power; I suggested it should be the cooks choice of taking it on themself or going 50/50 with it on those grounds
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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Exactly, shopping is work but also a privilege, so the person who cooks should be able to *choose* between taking it all on or going 5050 with the shopping. THAT makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:09 AM
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If men decide to live in a more decorated environment they should understand that there is more cleaning required. What if he doesn't decide anything? Why don't we try to sort out some kind of mutual 50/50 decision-making as to whether the house is complicated or simple? This is just like when I ask how it makes sense why people are telling me I should pay child support are assuming that I was never a stay-at-home father; they say "ok, I'm ok with *somebody* paying child support and *somebody* t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:07 AM
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I am the airport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_k5y3kKjX8
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:57 AM
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reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:24 AM
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You jumped into the conversation to defend a guy Nope. Not reading the rest if there was wrong detected this far into the post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:08 AM
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What contempt and disdain? I respect women by having higher standards for them than they have for themselves Sucks to suck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:34 AM
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Who, me or the people responding to me? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:24 AM
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the best way to keep the peace is to clean more than you personally would. Fallacy of responding to a moral argument with a practical argument
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:22 AM
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You didn't, he did,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:18 AM

Sex differences in disgust sensitivity: Robust findings show women, on average, have higher disgust sensitivity (including contamination and pathogen-related disgust) than men. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1754073917709940 One-person households: Gender gaps in routine housework (cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc.) persist even among people living alone across multiple countries. The gap is typically smaller than in couples but still present, which is harder to attribute solely to partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:10 AM
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Lol what? It's not personal at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:03 AM
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The bottom of your comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:02 AM
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By your source that’s the choice of the woman By his comment, he said it was a choice; he said "she still ends up doing the majority of choices," like it's horrible to send women down into the choice mines and mine some choices
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:42 AM
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Women’s Relative Resources and Couples’ Gender Balance in Financial Decision-Making Martin Klesment & Jan Van Bavel (2022) European Sociological Review, Volume 38, Issue 5, Pages 739–753 Official article page: https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/38/5/739/6582960 DOI: https://doi.org/10.1093/esr/jcac019 And fuck the American labor bureau
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:02 AM
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In the study "Women's Relative Resources and Couples' Gender Balance in Financial Decision-Making" (Klesment & Van Bavel, 2022, European Sociological Review), women who earn more than their male partners are more likely to report that they alone make major financial and other important household decisions. https://youtu.be/RZp6gky3FKQ?t=6281 Address that data before you make me dig, I addressed your data
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:46 AM
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Yeah, and this is when I came in: https://preview.redd.it/17c98jgobheh1.png?width=571&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7424b5fa6f470dc00da42f93874bd83dd5ac683 and you went about how horrible women are. It's only the majority of women; I intend to pick well, I deserve the 1% of you that aren't shit I deserve the best, because I am the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTF5kv03CAM
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:43 AM
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I will just say that I don't entirely understand how you expect people who don't know certain things to then be able to teach those things to kids. My parents are wonderful, intelligent, amazing people, but they never could have taught me the three other languages I know, nor could they have organized the theater club I participated in for years. Well, I don't actually think homeschooling really should be the default; I would like to see the default being, well, Zoom classes, but at 10 at a time…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:38 AM
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Um if it was in response to someone who doesn't even want to cohabitate (and prob wasn't even talking about having kids) , that's fine, but I was in fact, arguing with someone yesterday who thought the man should cook separately in a cohabiting relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:12 AM
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Your original point of this thread that you jumped into was that women are overly picky about groceries. No, it was you suggesting that they cook and eat separate meals. I didn't see that *that* was in response to a "purple" man suggesting no cohabitation whatsoever, but I also think that's insane, of course You accused her of destroying the family structure, and said “fuck her”. Yeah, and I'll do it again: she's destroying the family structure, and she can go fuck herself; she's less dangerous …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:13 PM
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Contradicted by *other* Pew and US gov data, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:01 PM
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your hypothetical wife down for having different tastes than you It's not "different tastes"; she can have input on the meal selection, but yes, sometimes kids learn how to eat by watching parents do it together at the prospect of doing a little extra labor by picking up a few extra things at the grocery store. What? I just told you I'm not sure I agree or disagree that breadwinners should do the actual shopping more often. I'm ok with it being the person who cooks more getting to decide if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:34 PM
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What do you mean by "angry that she may want different things?" You save money and effort by sharing one meal What are you saying? I want benefits to the kids. I'm pissed that her flightyness is more important than the wholesomeness of trying to eat that same meal with mom and dad. I can understand her eating something separate for a medical reason, but otherwise OMG, this is why the family is collapsing; this is what people's idea of being a household unit looks like. No wonder half of the peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:48 PM
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More men violently harm women than women who harm men. It’s not even close. Not even a little close It's very close; we have breakdowns that, after adjusting for criminal justice bias, prisons should only be like 10% ish more male, tops. You're free to live in this fantasy world where men are just the most unhinged monsters, but it's not reality https://cjsbam.tiiny.site/ Men are killed more by men than by women, and it’s not even remotely close. It is again pretty close; the bottom line is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:40 PM
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Contradicted by Pew data, US government data, and this isn't looking at reversed relationships at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:20 PM
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Yeah yard work is every week, much more brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:17 PM
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f your child is in the small group for whom homeschooling is better, great. The data shows that it is in fact the majority of kids who are better off homeschooled your rhetoric seems to coincide with the people who want to get rid of public education entirely, which is an opinion I cannot stand. Yes, I am an anarcho-capitalist who wants to privatize everything and abolish government; fuck bullies, fuck the lies government-chartered schools teach, and fuck everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:13 PM
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Men say that they're happy to live in a dungeon so decorating isn't something men are being prevented from doing. So they shouldn't be doing the majority of the housework if they wanted a simpler setup. If a woman wants a more complex, elaborate setup than is needed for functionality, then she should be the one cleaning it They also say that they have no problem eating flavorless foods especially for bulking so I don't think that's something they have a particular opinon on in most cases. Same a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:45 PM
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Studies have shown that eating dinner together as a family is a big predictor, and some biologists think it might have an evolutionary link to fire, etc I would assume that works better with as few roadblocks as possible, e.g., everyone eating all the same meal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:42 PM
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I mean the problem was outlined for you, but you're right, if every stay-at-home dad refused to stay with a female breadwinner who was a greedy bitch things would change, so in that sense there is no problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:29 PM
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No other possibility is presented. No, the possibility that all these housework statistics are bogus based on a half dozen statistical fallacies is also possible. Most women who stay home with the kids would like to receive financial compensation for their labor, but they take care of the kids and home because nobody else is going to What are you talking about? They receive the financial contribution of literally having the man pay for everything, “We have no idea how many of these men are deali…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:24 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCoEM6aDpc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:14 PM
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Mowing the lawn isn’t gardening. It’s yard work. Oh God, that sounds like the most inane distinction ever Great, men get stuck with "yard work," and women get stuck with "gardening" where they get to do the fun parts? You just don’t have to do the daily chores when the occasional chores pop up. Yeah, like men shouldn't be required to be your maid every day when the woman does the occasional chore of giving birth a few times Whatever man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:13 PM
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a 50 50 everything, I think that's the worst of the three, but it does have some arguments and solves some problems
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:04 PM
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Same, my wife's going to the coal mines or I am filling papers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:03 PM
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Hmm, that's a good point, but those things aren't considered "man's work" just because they are infrequent. And gardening has always been stereotypically a woman’s hobby and chore. I mean, it seems so weird to me because it was my dad who used to grow tomatoes; mowing the lawn and wheedwhacking , etc is typically considered the mans job It sounds like, again, women get to grow flowers, and men get to do the shitwork of pulling weeds or the responsibility of growing food. But I have heard of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:58 PM
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Doubtful. 35k is a livable wage especially if she's willing to go live with parents or shack up with someone else which most of us are and wouldn't be asked to be someone's miscellaneous utility tool. Hmm, I guess it would be an open question whether she's able to pay for all her own expenses (or a 50% share of expenses, etc.) at 35k and simply squirrel away less for the children. Still, it is an unequal contribution towards the children, so hmm. But lots of times we are talking about a woman to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:50 PM
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If you belive that the person cooking should have final say on food then men who are upset that women buy groceries should start cooking. Who are those men? I've never heard men complain about any of this. https://youtu.be/RZp6gky3FKQ?t=5884 I've heard women complain they "have" to do the grocery shopping when I'm pretty sure that most *commuter* male breadwinners might at least consider doing the shopping if they are the ones traveling anyway. The real answer is, she should have some say becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:23 PM
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Cuz it's pretty rare not to have a main shopper and it's even more rare the main shopper is not the woman. Data? If the man is usually the one who commutes, it would make more sense to pick up stuff at further-away stores on the way home from work. He makes about 5k more. If he pitched do more cuz you owe me, I'd laugh my way home. Yeah, 5k is about small enough to keep the change in my books and call it equal. The average relationship involves the man earning 65k and the woman earning 35k on av…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:05 PM
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Yeah, fine, if your scenario is being the earner and also taking care of things like cooking, etc *then* the guy kinda can't complain; *those* scenarios are deserved I just don't know how many of them are inequitable and how many of them just piss off the women, like one of the mods of Inkyverse is actually a woman who fell into being a breadwinner to a stay-at-home dad, but she doesn't like it and it kinda pisses her off if you ask her about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:46 PM
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I mean, sometimes it makes sense. I use foaming hand soap by mixing 1:5 soap : water like dial gold etc but you don't want to reuse a disposable foaming soap container over and over because the plastic will leach out, just like how you don't want to reuse plastic soda bottles for the same reason. So that requires a $7 foaming soap dispenser from Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:35 PM
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No, because that's "wives who earn almost all the income vs men who *contribute*," not "wives who earn almost all the income vs men who earn almost all of the income." I noticed this before, but it's just one of the weird little quirks of the data. It is interesting, but I would want to argue that it implies a perverse financial incentive, like the welfare trap, is hiding in there somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:25 PM
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The problem here is the leap from “make major financial decisions” to “shaft their finances” The leap other people are making, yes (as “men aren’t doing chores because they’re not being paid”) I mean the full answer is "men aren't able to steer the money towards their kids," that's the proper way you get hot for your breadwinner without it being gold-digging sugar mommy/daddy stuff or grimy, you say if you are monogamy-minded, this is about steering money toward your children in the end. But als…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:20 PM
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"The majority of household spending is on groceries, household items, clothing, etc. Traditionally, the woman is spending this because, well...I'm not actually sure. My husband hates shopping, so I can only guess most husbands hate these tasks. " No, it's because the person who cooks should have more say on the food, and the person who cleans should be able to determine the products used. It's not *just* a privilege that comes with the drawback either: they literally need to be able to buy eg be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:02 PM
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And does this research still have all the problems of the dozens of other housework studies? Self-reported data when we have dozens of biases, not attempting to account for anybody doing less housework because they are more efficient or because they count differently, or what? “Women may feel compelled to compensate for violating traditional gender roles as a breadwinner by redoubling their contributions at home,” she continues. Sounds like a fallacy of assumed motivations again, like when these…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:27 PM
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Great, so now go tell the millions of stay-at-home moms to hold themselves to the same standards. Just allow some shoe to drop in terms of literal equality, please? As someone seeking stay-at-home fatherhood, I don't really want money *for me,* I want equal contributions to the children. And I don't feel I should pay the full 50% of expenses if I'm cooking, cleaning, and parenting. We can talk about coming close if I'm allowed to have a part-time job, but if she wants me on call 24/7, then she n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:16 PM
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Why are you the fourth person to bail from data with an insistence that anecdotal evidence is better? There is research which shows that women are judged more harshly for a messy living space compared to men so maybe women just feel more pressure to be clean I would like to see this, but at the same time I would like to see how it reconciles with eg the very obvious observation that a woman with a trashy apartment can probably get some dick easier than a guy with a trashy apartment can get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:08 PM
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"It’s seriously going to consistently be okay for him to grab another beer and watch the game while she’s vacuuming, cleaning, cooking? That’s a feature of many houses?" It's seriously going to consistently ok for his wife to have church lady coffee talk with her friends on the couch while he changes tires, regrouts the floors, installs light switches and probably gets shafted doing the majority of the gardening? "I’ve seen men from very traditional cultures (where is not normal)" Where is it no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:02 PM
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I don't know why you think we should care that men are the "culprets" it doesn't disprove that men are also the majority victims And again, you are insisting on looking at womens victimization as a group and acting like that trumps the individual argument. It doesn't, because the system can only look at individuals. You are citing that "men are much stronger than women" as the cause but not demonstrating it. If you want to be a misandrist, do it right and entertain the possibility that it is sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:52 PM
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"Men are killed more often than women, but by other men" is still "men are killed more often than women" smart girl I expect most misandry to come from men and most misogyny to come from women, because we are overwhelmingly a heterosexual species.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:37 PM
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No, now your the second one, the idea that women are better multitaskers than men has been debunked scientifically Men are fabulous multitaskers, the classic example is men listening to podcasts while playing a video game, or men doing manual labor with a radio in the background. Female working environments are more likely to require a singular focus
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:33 AM
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"What breadwinners do" as in you agree it's possibility 2 because you want to put agencwy onto the breadwinners? This was also arguably about the men not being good enough fucking maids for these alley cats but if you insist, ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:31 AM
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That what I had assumed, the fact that men also do less housework when single could be because they are more efficient, but also because men insist on simpler designs and women insist on more elaborate ones, and female and male homemakers alike get to pick the interior's design as a perk to the drawback of being the one who has to deal with it Women build really elaborate pointless shit and then they clean more, men build simple shit and then clean less. If you look at the "female vtubers freaki…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:28 AM
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"Who pays for the household expenses in the "men share their spoils 50/50"? Because if it's women who pay for groceries etc, and man just spends his 50 on himself, then it's one thing. I just don't understand how it's possible in a family with kids. I meant the man alllows the women 50ish say over finacial decisions. " 1) prove that males mind that. that it's really an issue and not you just throwing tantrum " Um as a man seeking stay at home fatherhood i would mind that. Is this how you feel ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:24 AM
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No, grow the up, all the same statistical fallacies apply to that data and you are doubling down instead of addressing them Once again, the female breadwinner being 33% more likely to experience domestic abusive has never been proven, if it were it would just make it the safest relationship for a man becauae every other relationship has a majority of female aggression in domestic violence, and it would easily be trumped by the fact that children of single mothers have a 4x greater risk of suicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:15 AM
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Martin fieberts meta anylasis of 300 studies https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2663360/ **Murray Straus finding equal dv in the middle east: Straus, M. A. (2008). Dominance and symmetry in partner violence by male and female university students in 32 nations. Core findings on symmetry (across all 32 nations, including the Middle East/Asia subsample): - Almost one-third of both female and male students physically assaulted a dating partner in the previous 12 months. - Median perpetration r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:09 AM
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Yeah that why Hannah wallen doesn't trust these stats, we have no idea if women are running a washing machine +watching tv and then men could be running a washing machine + vacuuming and then they log fewer hours etc because the research is so vauge
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:02 AM
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And it's easy to chalk up female breadwinners engaging in non consentual findom to "85% of the decisions" instead of "85% of the wealth," it still doesn't explain why men being better maids is backed up by looking at which gender of custodian and chefs dominate, and the idea that women would hog finacials is backed up by dozens of studies on hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:58 AM
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We have a half dozen statistical fallacies in the data points "proving" those ten hours that you refuse to address Great, it has nothing to do with asset division, we can say that your male maids are going on strike because witches are hogging 85% of the finacial decisions instead of 85% of the total wealth, and that's enough for the men to say "fuck you pay me" anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:53 AM
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No dude, child abuse can eat shit, and there is a 100% chance my child will be bullied in school. A private school you can pull your kid our of etc is better but still subject to the whims of the states Prussian model I understand theres a "recovering from the trauma of homeschool" community on reddit but their shit just isn't backed by data at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:50 AM
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No it didn't, I don't need a rehash of philosophy 101 when you don't seems to understand the difference between a premise and a conclusion yourself and you arent explaining why one data set is valid and the other isn't, so reply notificans off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:47 AM
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"Then they gotta pay alimony to a guy who works 10 fewer hours per week than the average SAHM. " Data please, that adjusts for the half dozen statistical fallacies in the data I've seen so far " So not only do the women have to pay alimony like the average sole male breadwinner, " Only 15% of all divorces involve it, i want to to not exist without an explicit contract but otherwise fairs fair "Is there any situation where a man doesn't try to do the least amount of work and give himself the bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:44 AM
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"That happens when you argue with uneducated men with the arrogance to think their opinions are just as good as research and statistics. " You mean how im bringing much more reliable research and statistics than the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:31 AM
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"It's a premise, not a point I'm arguing." Great, so i can ignore all if this as "not an argument" "Your not going to find any evidence that male nreadwinners do more or equal household chores to female breadwinners" 1 we already have in Australia and a few other places that does in fact show that 2 we have data that men do less housework when both are single so it's possible men log fewere hours because they are more efficient at it 3 all of this data is self reported when we have a half dozen …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:27 AM
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I actually like you, because im usually the one telling other people that invoking a fallacy without explaing how it applies is itself shifting the burden of proof (unless it's a negative fallacy like argument from ignorance) Maybe it's not strictly a circular reasoning, but the point is you are just asserting possibility 1 with that line, without giving a reason, other than "the person who cooks totally doesn't need to have a say in the groceries, and the person who parents doesnt get to say ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:04 AM

" Female breadwinners do substantially more household chores than male breadwinners" Circular reasoning fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:55 AM
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Schrodingers reversed relationship: if feminists are talking about relationships where the men don't do stay at home parent stuff, and mras are talking about realshionahips where female breadwinners don't provide, we are talking about female breadwinner stay at home dad realshionships that don't exist. Where are the reversed relationships? Why are the goalposts at a shitty relationship at the start, because it feels like a circular reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:49 AM
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I thought you said 50 50 custody was the norm in Sweden?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:42 AM
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You're wrong, it's at least not as good as free play (Grey) when it comes to socialization, and there are behavioral and hormonal drawbacks. Expensive daycare has some educational benefits but I don't care, if it was a choice between my child being abused vs being uneducated, im going with uneducated (as an ancap I want an unironic return of child labor, because if my fututre 11 year old got bullied at a job at McDonalds, the bully gets fired) So disgusting, incels are people who worst case scen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:40 AM
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"I firmly believe fathers should be stay at home parents and mothers should be the ones bringing home the bread and bacon. " Yes I agree, I don't want the misogyny of asserting men are the better leaders and fighters and women are the better caregivers, I want the misogyny of saying women are worse caregivers too, so every parent should be stay at home dads and single dads, and we fill the top spots in government, buissness, stem fields, religious leadership, artists and philosophers with the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:01 AM
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Or she can pound sand with 50% custody and no child support if the father leaves as is happening in the six states in the USA with 50 50 custody policies, instead of acting like the baby is her property just because she gets preg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:50 AM

Yeah women insist on being married and having children while providing nothing finically, and it works for them. It doesn't work for men, as you're demonstrating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:48 AM
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Yeah why is that more important that increased cortisol levels and behavioural issues from your children? You can make a career change anytime and simply earn a little less Im not even happy with schools instead of homeschooling, or instead of letting them take jobs or learn eg accounting, plumbing at 14
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:18 AM
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Why am I deranged for not wanting my baby molested????? Are you a medical professional who assists in circumcision? Everybody wants to rape by baby and he's not even conscieved yet, people are insane monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:32 AM
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Yeah it worse, I would choose the person playing with my fishing vs it I might choose 100 real rapes over it, at least most of the kids on epstiens island (who weren't murdered) didn't have pieces cut off of them you fucking monsters I don't want to meet the people who circumcise for non pedo reasons, those sound like the scariest people. Like imagine a rapist who didn't do it for selfish pleasure, and thought he was curing canc3r ir something, that sounds like a scarier rapist to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:01 AM
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It is literally chopping off the foreskin, what did you think it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:44 AM
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When I downloaded one of the last few years NCIVIS ( I think 2023) and it was just listed as "--" and I asked allison and ahe said they fiddled with the instrument Maybe it was just that years, but if I'm wrong show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:43 AM
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So this was a fake source: "matin fiebert has a meta analysis of over 300 studies showing women agress more often in dv. We have evidence that women recieve greater severity, but we also have evidence that 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men so it is just a minority of men being that severe. And Murray Strauss found equal domestic violence in the middle east" Sounds like i have about a half dozen sources address your second claim and you are focusing on the one thing neither of us have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:40 AM
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The bible literally says "kill the boys, but keep the girls alive," and you cam find examples of ot, such as Cambodian genocide being up to 80% men in some estimates, shortages of men in rohwanda, sicialy, and we suspect Ukraine might have a shortage of men soon Your welcome to do your tally of female honor killings, geneder slelective abortions, and female infanticide and see if it comes close to any of that (after you ignore those last two are caused by the misandry of expecting sons to provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:32 AM
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I didn't cherry pick, I openly said womens is more severe, that's exactly what I was talking about. Just also that 70% of dv victims who never reciprocate are men, so again, on a individual basis, women are more agressive. You are the one cherry picking shamelessly, because I am looking at men being the bigger victim of homicide overall, and men being the bigger victim of agression in domestic violence, and you are specifically looking at the sub category of "people dead in domestic violence" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:24 AM
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No they are not more likely to stay in abusive relationships, I can't find my sources on this right now but I know I've seen them, so maybe you would like to start. No, men are not more abusive, matin fiebert has a meta analysis of over 300 studies showing women agress more often in dv. We have evidence that women recieve greater severity, but we also have evidence that 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men so it is just a minority of men being that severe. On an individual basis, women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:09 PM
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Show me any other male reason, because we have doznes of categories of crimes women commit more that have nothing to do with strength, like the fact that women initate doneatic violence against men more than the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:14 PM
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You need a source that men are the genocided gender, look at "rbomi" wiki (reference book of mens issues) and you will see about 9 citations thst men are the primary victims of gender based genocide. You can look at almost any criminal stat anywhere and see a majority male victims, wheather it's walking down the street and being assaulted, or being murdered You can look up Martin fieberts meta analysis of 300 studies, prim reapers compilation of 50ish studies, the partner abuse state of knowledg…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:11 PM
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And it's not a serious as violence against men, by women or men. Notice you haven't furnished any states You have to cherry pick certain categories of domestic and sexual violence to find anything women are bigger victims of then men, otherwise men are the genocided gender
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:03 PM
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What are you talking about? If your talking about some fringe scenario where you are forced at literal gunpoint to marry someone, that is not the norm at all anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:01 PM

Money usually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:25 PM
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"Why should a partner expect money in exchange for housework? It's less fucked up to exchange money for personality!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:06 PM

When did women need to reproduce? Women would be entitled to finical provising from fathers, brothers, and they could still get jobs. A spinster was literally a womsn who spun cotton Thats the weird thing, people are saying "women dont need to have children to survive anymore" when they needed to have children less in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:02 PM

I still dont know what a "dead beat dad" or "man" is, women's role is literally the who gets paid, and who didn't pay child support for thousands of years before tender years doctrine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:47 PM

They contribute more than women, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:45 PM

Show men the mens rights groups trying to take away your rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:41 PM
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So what did you have in mind? Kikimora craft (cooking cleaning parenting)? If you want him to earn it via "having a good personality" or something, that sounds like a worse precedent to set than him earning through all of the other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:37 PM
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No people who earn 100k both throw the kids in daycare just to have equal relashonship and not take a break from their careers because they are too proud
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:32 PM
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Bullshit. She has the choice of single mom-ing out, or a relashionship. Women don't feel "stuck" with men they have gotten knocked up by, men do feel they way with women they have impregged, because we have data men are more likely to stay in abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:27 PM

No, rates of father involvement increased in states that installed 50 50 custody policies, so that sounds like men want to be fathers why you let them, you just don't let them in 44 states Another red pill women indistinguishable from a blue pill, "like how they want puppies" disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:20 PM

Huh? How is 300k years of males dying more an equality that feels like oppression? What are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:11 PM
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Whatever, the actual issue (women raping men) has other explanations as i said, men being programmed to not hurt women, and the legal system bias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:01 PM
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What did you have in mind, did you want men to breastfeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:57 PM
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"it's actually attempted murder, you FGM apologist, it is lethal sexual assualt"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:20 PM
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i did not consent, and it involved my penis i was raped
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:07 PM
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It destroys it, how? Lol, if a pedo played with your kids' foreskin, it would be rape; it's only gotten rapier when they chop it off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:06 PM
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Yes, wouldn't you consider it pedo if someone only played with your child's foreskin? So cutting it off is even worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:04 PM
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She's an "anarca" feminist who calls herself a red pill woman, lol it fits
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:02 PM
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Women are more likely to use weapons and the element of surprise, which is more important. The entire thing that allowed humans to take over the planet wasn't a strength difference; we are fragile lumps of crap compared to other apes, lions, elephants, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:01 PM
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Thank you for serving as an example that women can be apologists of male victims
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:46 AM
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No, look up the data that one in 3 men are victims of baby knife rape worldwide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi6qI_h2LTk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:38 AM

You mean the 300,000 years of our evolutionary history where males died more than females, eclipsing anything done by government or organized religion in the past 12,000 years? Yeah your right, they are different
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:28 AM

How is it hateful against women to say the system is biased against men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:26 AM

No my numbers are the same; today I just found studies that show tons of men seek primary custody and don't get it And women can adapt to working etc too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:25 AM

and then tried to gotcha your way out of it by claiming your concerns about possible divorce are the same as women's concerns over pregnancy and child rearing When did I do that? I compared it to alimony. How is a woman putting custody in her favor by being the primary caregiver "not a foregone conclusion" and a man putting custody in her favor by being the primary caregiver "a foregone conclusion"? You guys just don't like men doing the exact same thing women always do, even when it makes more …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:23 AM
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Forced envelopment or fee rape
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:12 AM
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It doesn't matter, this is the extent of your arguing, no sources, not even a "here is what feminism is about" assertion, just pulling teeth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:56 AM
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But you still brough up guards raping inmates
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:53 AM
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Good, give me alimony if I don't have equal domestic violence services as a man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7aOnX7XeE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:23 AM
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I told you that, in the majority, she has 50%ish decision-making on average; honestly, I think that's too much. She has a right to not be expected to pay for a full 50% of expenses like food and rent, she should not dictate 100% of the finances And people always say "I'm not messing up my algorithm with misogyny" in response to me linking Austin Powers or Ren and Stimpy or something lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwK1spnyMU
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:21 AM
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https://youtu.be/_KfCid3U-Q0?t=351
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:42 AM
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How about no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HJxya0CWco
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:12 AM
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LOL, the mayor saying "Male loneliness is men's fault; eat shit, men" means male loneliness is being addressed by the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:03 AM
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Average earnings contribution to the couple’s combined income: Men (husbands): ~65% Women (wives): ~35% (Medians: husbands $65,000 / wives $35,000) Men easily contribute more to relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:28 AM
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they would have voted for the party pushing for a gender neutral draft. Who is that? The democrats might support it *more* but ultimatly no one political party supports it And we just had 4 years of Biden, 8 years of Obama, and 8 years of bill Clinton, and they didn't abolish the draft
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:14 AM
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Like if he said u do the majority of the cooking and cleaning for all 3 of us and I do very little in proportion but in exchange you have access to my entire salary and life saving to do whatever you want then that's fine. That's a exchange. No it shouldn't be everything man; it can be lots of things, but everything is not reasonable, she simply instead entitled to that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:13 AM
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So pay her so it's proportional. It would ease a lot of his burden to simply pay this woman for her labor. Then everyone is happy. He gets labor, she gets compensated for her labor, kids get family meal where everyone gets to break the same bread together. Yeah it can just be an expectation that she pay less than 50% of her own expenses, and she picks up the rest (like 30% or 40%) with a part-time job; that's what I want to shoot for as a hopeful primary caregiver in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:10 AM
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Lol, you say "op" so many times I feel like I'm talking to my fan club Again, your studies were worse than mine; you can bail with "we don't know" anytime you like; you can't bail with "the red pill is wronger on this issue" I think you think that kind of thing is sophistry because you don't understand conditional philosophy - on some level the strongest argument isn't "x is true." or "y is true," the strongest argument is "*if* x is true, then y is true." The strongest argument actually is "if …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 AM
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earth, scroll please
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:34 PM
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omg <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:33 PM
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You haven't proven it true, and can't because it's not. You were the one who specifically claimed it happens to men more. Yeah, and I cited one study that shows greater female-on-male violence, and another that shows *only* 10% more male-on-female violence. Prisons as a tiebreaker easily prove that men are the majority of victims. We can talk about bacha bazi as a tiebreaker too, similar situations where boys are targeted but not girls, and I'm not sure war is *entirely* in your favor based on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:30 PM
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and making the (false) claim that men are more frequently victims It's not a false claim if you scroll up or down and look at the data, and secondly, it's just dumb, man; imagine someone saying "asian victims of getting punched in the face in a bar" vs just "victims getting punched in the face in a bar." How about stop excusing bigotry, because when it comes to men, that is the exact place when even SJWs stop showing sympathy for victims
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:37 PM
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Regardless though, this is still only applicable to that specific northeastern university. You can't really generalize it to all women and men. Yeah great, but 1 every piece of counterevidence is just as bad 2 we are talking about this instead of the CDC What do you mean? It's the same standard. I pointed out how it's specific to a particular university and an even more specific subgroup. I looked at the sample size. The study overall was bout a broader category than rape. I meant that in the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:11 PM
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Women and feminist are not the same thing, it's also mostly men Yeah, like how it was mostly men granting women the right to draft WE as in men and women could have stopped the draft but WE haven't. You have a turtle in your pocket named "men"? “But while 61% of male voters believe women should be required to register for the draft, only 38% of female voters agree. Most women (52%) oppose such a requirement, and 10% more are undecided.” Link to the poll: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:35 PM
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Like if u got a roommate you made 50k roommate made 100k. Y'all split the rent evenly $500 each, but then roommate 2 also did more chores ? Y ? You're assuming separate finances and prenups; I'm assuming combined finances, or the male breadwinner allowing the maid 50% financial control informally because that is the majority, and because if there are kids it should turn into a common inheritance anyway I kind of like the angle you're stumbling on accidentally: "prenups and separate finances can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:18 PM
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What u were talking about in the first scenario the woman is getting nothing in exchange for her labor. When did I do that? I said he earns more and she doesn't, if you honestly thought that was THAT literal, like he should hacve a maid when he *just* earns more and always keeps separate finances, without any implication she or the child is benefiting via the earnings via rent or food etc, of course that's a joke, it's just (as so many feminists tell me with the genders reversed) he doesn't need…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:06 PM
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I didn't forget, I'm saying this is the closest thing we have. You can toss it as irrelevant, but then you have to bail with "we don't know," not "it's obvious that men harass women because they are assholes, or because muh lived experiences" "men are sexually harassed more" is a strawman of "men can be assumed to be sexually harassed aprox equally, *or* more" "spending five minutes listening to experiences" is simply bullshit, man; we could have men being equally harassed, but they are gaslit b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:20 PM
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I'm like a convict; you're like the FBI I ask for breakfast, you bring a piece of pie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptP4OGw0Ht4
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:32 AM
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But why do you want her to get custody if there was "other reasons" ? There was no stay at home demonstrated if it was a breakup before birth so that should always be a 50 50 custody situation, she should not be able to steal my baby, babynappers need prison
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:45 AM
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Scroll please
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:41 AM
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No i am claiming that if we only look at heterosexual rape, we have basically the idea that women outside of prisons might only be a majority by 10% vs the criminal justice pretending that women are a majority by like 95% or similar It's just as easily that psychological biases msan that women could be raping men even more often than the reverse outside of prisons Of course once you factor in prisons it is definitely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:41 AM
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Were not talking about prison rape being underreported. We're talking about five studies, one if them showed slight more female on male than the other war around, the other four only showed women 10% tops more likey to be raped, totally outside of prisons. The idea is after we adjust those studies fir underreporting, we might have a majority male victims Scroll please im not linking it again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:38 AM
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I heard Adam corolla on loveline and he had a bunch of crazy vampire ladies on, and he said (wrongly) "this is why if you beat your children, make sure it's your daughter, because they only become vampire blood fetishists, if you beat your sons you get criminals etc" He later had Andy dick on and talked about he was crazy etc, not realizing that Andy dick is exactly what you get when a boy is a victim of being raped by a female babysitter 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:05 AM
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What is you idea of "main victims of rape?" The real data shows women might be 10% ish bigger victims outside prison. There are some projections out there that argue we can assume a male majority of victims based on what we know about underreporting alone, and victims of women and not men. Prisons just makes it a majority that we absolutely have undeniable data for
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:59 AM
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When women are the majority of perpetrators of female genital mutilation in most areas, most child murder including selective infanticide and selective abortions against girls, and slut shaming, and in some areas they enforce nuqiab/burkha more, what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:56 AM
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And bail with "I don't know," sure, "I know that I know nothing," not "men are rapists" We can say if they both have the same problems, you actually should toss both if you were being logically consistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:20 AM
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But then we have to bail with "we don't really know," not "studies with an even smaller sample size, the same selection bias, and that only look at men and never compare women, let alone two separate time periods, have the true answer" which is so much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:15 AM
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So do you believe it is rape by deception when a man conceives a child after he was promised stay-at-home fatherhood, and the woman steals majority custody by breaking up before the birth? (11%-22% of live births happen to couples who are broken up) I actually don't have an answer, but we have no idea if this "whatever they want to hear" is " I will marry you if you let me creampie that snatch" or if it was "you don't look fat in that." Gauge people's reaction to a man poking holes in a condom v…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:10 AM
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It is not too late for you, it is not too late for me, to find my homeland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSyLS2QXeFg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:50 AM
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lol that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:48 AM
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That didn't just magically cut off in 1999, and you have nothing to support your hamstering that "this century" flipped some kind of statistical switch and made rape equal magically starting exactly in the year 2000. Again, we have reasons we use last year instead of lifetime 1: men dropping out of the population of people who can be polled via being homeless, drug-addicted, suicidal, and institutionalized, especially because they don't have equivalent grape services 2: consistent with research …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:46 AM
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For starters, the reason we used the studies from 2010 and 2012-2013 is that they fiddled with the instruments. We went from 48% of rapes being "made to penetrate" in 2010, to "--" victims of made to penetrate in 2024." Maybe you would think that we would suddenly shoot from almost a perfect 50/50 to "--" in 15 years, but I don't think so, dude. Secondly, Allison's crown Jewel was arguing why we don't look at lifetime numbers instead of last year 15 years ago: Why Last-Year Numbers Are More Reli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:39 AM
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or scroll up and down lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:28 AM
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home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTOu-EkN9G0
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:20 AM
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A topic about men being raped isn't the time to bring up male victims, Yeah, that sounds about right. We can't talk about male victims in a topic about male victims, and we can't talk about male victims in a topic about female victims. Good observation I'm sorry, but you're in the wrong here if you think that's cool. I'm sorry, but I don't see people bringing up male victims in response to people talking about women being raped *and the ways they are different.* I see people responding to an imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:16 AM
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"but the fact that most men are heterosexual and closer in size and strength to other men surely has an impact with male perpetrators. With regard to female perpetrators, I don’t understand how there could be more female perpetrators and male victims than male perpetrators and female victims, because of the difference in strength' Because the strength difference is marginal, all humans have fragilities, and although fringe, it is possible to kill someone with one punch. And because men cannot fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:02 AM
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Thank you for the data, but i hope you're only wielding that patriarchy in self-defense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:50 AM
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data please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GqABNl26ZY
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:49 AM
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You can go sleep at home tonight if you can get up and walk away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs2vQkRGHRU
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:45 AM
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So, 1, it's about SA rather than rape. SA is more broadly defined, but it also found twice as many women were victims than men. Not at all what you were suggesting that only 10% more women than men are raped. Yeah, did you look at the two data points harvested? At the top: Forced sexual intercourse (physical force used for vaginal/oral/anal penetration): Men 0.6%, Women 0.4% (men slightly higher) - Threatened sexual contact (threats of physical force): Men 0.6%, Women 0.5% (similar, men slightly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:41 AM
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When women call this whataboutism, it's usually because you're bringing up male victims in response to women talking about women being raped, rather than starting a discussion about male victims on its own. No, it's not just women talking about how girls are raped; it's that they present it as an implication that it is a majority female or a female-only issue. There are differences between the typical male rape victim and female rape victim, but as long as they establish that implication, its re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:00 AM
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At least in the US, it's 10 to 1 in the other direction "An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male," Source please https://revtrad-femalesv.tiiny.site/ Your analogy to police brutality is also really odd, because people who recognize racialized police brutality also recognize general police brutality. I really don't know what you're on about, here. I really don't know why you're breaking the analogy. Feminists who recognize w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:43 AM
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No, because I want a rape fantasy and not to be actually raped, please You're just here to make yourself into a counterexample? I have actually been raped by a ciswoman as a cisman; that's probably *why* femdom works on me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:38 AM
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95% of men between 18-34 Table 2 breaks down things like: “Told her whatever she wanted to hear” (78%) Asking repeatedly, using friends to help, isolating her, etc. More serious items like physical restraint or drugs were much lower (~9–10%). Denied 32% of college age men Worse sample size than the one I presented at 86 mostly White college juniors The phrasing was “Force a woman to sexual intercourse,” which can have other meanings in BDSM and similar, and no female control was given so this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:34 AM
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That'll need a citation. These five studies indicate that women are only raped by men about 10% more (if they are raped more) compared to the reverse https://revtrad-femalesv.tiiny.site/ Then add prisons, and it's a majority In fact, you can ignore the first five studies and pretend the criminal justice statistics of like 90% men are totally correct and just add in prisons and get a male majority anyway. If it's, instead, a general discussion about rape, that would be different. You mean if ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:23 AM
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Joan Kennedy Taylor didn't organize against the draft because she was a feminist; she did it because she was a libertarian Other than that: feminists granted women the right to vote in every country in 150 years, except one. Coca-Cola is about 150 years old and is sold in every country except three. You guys could've stopped the draft, so you are not the greatest taste around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrYXvNSTcmQ
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:20 AM
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We have data that male breadwinners often share their spoils informally, 50%ish, with stay-at-home moms, but female breadwinners make 85% of the financial decisions. So maybe you'll get a male homemakers who act like female hommakers, when you have female breadwinners who act like male breadwinners? Maybe one half of the realshionsip will stop playing pretend when the other half does? And that would explain the domestic violence rates; it's not justifed but that shit would piss me off too https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:57 PM

Or because places like Iran have the largest number of women in STEM, because gender bending is a function of poverty, not wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:17 PM
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but your statistics don't reference bring dominant or submissive at all. Yeah, like I just said: If you just want to say "nu uh, online harassment is irrelevant to women being harassed by men who are literally submissive!" then we have nothing. So you like burying your head in the sand, good for you. No, I say if we have no direct data, there is a reasonable assumption of "men are prob harassed more based on other data," or the reasonable assumption of "we don't know," and you are presenting the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:28 PM
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Now you're just saying "no" and playing bad faith volleyball, reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:20 PM
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No u used the word exchange. So there should be a exchange of labor for money in that case. No, if I "exchange" apples for a pack of cigarettes, there is no money involved (and no labor involved either in the exchange itself, strictly speaking) And she contributes labor to the household in the form of chores, and he contributes money Yeah, so she needs to contribute the labor then? This is "I thought we would pay them for the food we just ate with the food we just ordered" logic https://www.wcos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:05 PM
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"It's a conclusion I've come to without consulting statistics. I'd rather do that than vaguely half-reference something that may or may not exist or be relevant." Yeah you would rather vibe, and go with a "vibes > bad data" argument than a "good data > bad data > vibes" argument Here were my studies btw: Pew Research Center (2014) Report: Online Harassment Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2014/10/22/online-harassment/ “Overall, men are somewhat more likely than women to experience at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:55 PM
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No I didn't. Show me where
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:39 PM
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So is the modern safer abortion, instead if having ti take an herbal tonic in ancient rome See the problem? In the 1920s, we could finally afford children to leave the workforce and we basically invented modern childhood. In the late 1940s the average household was able to afford a stay at home parent in the USA, with benefits to the kids. In the early 1970s we "suddenly couldn't afford it anymore" due to the Central banks and shit, and we pretended women never worked for thousands of years befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:32 PM
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Yeah I understand romantic partnerships and friendships should involve a little bit of "keep the change" once in a while, it's just that very clear women want to abuse the "keep the change" into "it should be on you"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:24 PM
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Yeah see this is what I mean, this is your idea of explaining what you think the difference is. I'm pretty sure accepting abuse is always submissive, but not all submission is abusive, so the analogy does work without legwork by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:20 PM
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Yeah it was astronomically cheaper than trying to raise a family in NYC, where public transit eliminated "the cost of a car" Buy a house in a rural area is not what you do when you are privileged, it was cheaper than the city. Paying $2000 a month for rent in NYC just so that the grocery store is a 10 minutes walk away instead of a 30 minute drive away, is absolutely privileged, just kind of like being "n word rich" where you have the apartment that women want to see before they fuck you, but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:15 PM
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And again, you are suggesting the higher earning partner pay for a cleaning service that both partners benefit from. Not that they split the cleaning service 50 50 if they both afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:04 PM
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No again, because it makes sense if one earns more and the finances are seperate. if the finances are together somethings gotta give You cannot expect a full breadwinner vs homemaker division when both people work the same number of hours but as a practical matter only. It is fair that the person contributing less work more or so somwtjong. Housework is not assigned to the person who works less because it is more practical because they are physically inside of the home. It's because that person …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:03 PM
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YES, either earn, or suck on the dude's shit, what dont you understand? I would rather you earn, and make me do your laundry after you squirt the bed, and yell at me in a pout in a buissness suit to do it, then I make you STFU with cookies, and doing things that will make you squirt again, and then the whole cycle repeats itself every day until one of us dies of old age Most women would rather that I earn more than them, and then voluntarily clean up my messes, and then complain that I earn more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:42 PM
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No man, you can just move to a rural area with a lower cost of living, you just need to make a few sacrifices (30 minute drive everywhere) Like this is such a generalization, middle class and lower class are huge brackets
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:15 PM
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16% of breadwinners are female, I wish it were more but lets be real And that "nobody discusses salaries on the first date" is such a crock, obviously the question is about relationships that go past the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:12 PM
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Yeah again, unregulated surrogates only top out at 80k worldwide, and men contribute much more than that typically. I head a story the other day about a woman who earned 300k leaving a man who earned 200k because she wanted him to be able to enable her to quit working, like without her income dropping. That waaay beyond the scope of "make up for my preggary"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:10 PM
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And I'm tired of the "it wasn't women!" bullshit. I never said it was or it wasn't. I only said it was an example of men being punished for being submissive. The fact that other men were punishing them was irrelevant And that's not even established either, the women would n3ed to tell the men first
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:06 PM
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Yeah but your not good faith enough to spend paragraphs litigating the difference so it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:04 PM
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"Traditional men who make more and think it’s the woman’s job to keep house are more likely to intentionally leave messes." Citation needed, men do not intentionally make messes just for the wives to clean them up " and carry the baby," Yeah unregulated surrogates worldwide top out at 80k, and most men provide most children with more than that We can say that she bring an 80k contribution to the child, and thats all I should I have to bring to the table, and then we can be equal or figure some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:52 PM
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What difference does it make? Is it wrong to say "if someone pedo'd my kids, I'd torture him" if I don't have kids yet and am "getting worked up over nothing"? This is just another way of people trying to slip in "imaginary girlfriend" as an insult. I'm calling projection; I am probably giving you the most attention you have gotten for years, second only to your cats, and you actually are "getting worked up over nothing"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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That's not the natural assumption; a similarity is the absence of information, and a difference is the presence of information, so the logical assumption is that women who out themselves as dominant experience similar levels of harassment to everyone else, because the burden of proof must be on the person who wants to prove a difference. Otherwise you are asking someone to prove a negative Oh, and the donkey thing was in reference to domestic violence; men who were victims of female domestic vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:16 PM
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She does mores of the chores for them both...he doesn't turn around and pay her 25k in exchange. No, because that money is supposed to go towards the kids; the question is, what does she contribute to "the household" broadly Cleaning up a mess, etc improves the household for the kids; contributing financially to what the kids stand to inherit helps them; what does she DO? I mean, if we are talking no kids, we still have the answer: he is giving her a place to stay but paying 100% of the rent. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:10 PM
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Has she tried doing something before demanding my fucking money? If not, she is in fact a bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hXaqEJh2T0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:58 PM
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You just said that no statistics exist, so I'm calling that not only your L, but you drowning in your own pig feces I'm sorry, I feel a very strong biological hard-wired urge to protect women built into my psychology. I don't assume people are more likely to have that urge, and then harass faces and voices that are more female-shaped than male-shaped. It's not impossible, it's just you aren't giving me *any* data
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:56 PM
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Except it's not the same "amount" of work! It has a different value but I would never date someone like you. And I think most women wouldn't either Someone like me who? Someone who's willing to say, "Yeah, the person who isn't earning needs to houseslave-it-up, oh btw I want to be that houseslave"? I mean, you're right, most women don't like that answer *either,* but only because there is usually no right answer with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:53 PM
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Nope, not bothering. You claimed "dominant women get flooded with harassment," which clearly implies that dominant women get harassed more than dominant men or submissive women. You just said that no statistics exist, so I'm calling that your L
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:08 PM
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Yeah, what do you mean? Primary caregivers can still work part time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:05 PM
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If one partner earns 1 penny more, it's dumb to dump all of the housework onto the other person. If both people work the same hours, but one person earns like 50k more, you bet your ass the other person has to do something. It would be unreasonable at that point to ask the other person to do *everything,* but yeah, 40%-60% division of housework at the minimum, prob can go a bit higher
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:04 PM
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Women absolutely count those things. Go to a woman (as a man anyway) and tell her you want to start a family with no job, and you expect her to pay for everything because she should "love" you that hard. Go look at what went on on the FDS subreddit. I just heard a story the other day about a woman who earned 300k, leaving a guy who only earned 200k because she wanted him to be able to allow her to not work, in her income bracket You are not HIRING a husband so that he has to work while you take …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:29 PM
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The first "son" was a metaphor for the husband There is no exact number to it; it's just "bitch do something," and the number can't be zero
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:20 PM
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No, you invoked the idea that femdoms are harassmed more than women who profess submissivemess, lets see YOUR data The pew research was online harassment, specifically death threats etc. I don't even know what you mean by sexual harassment. I didn't know if you meant "unsolicited dick pics from submissive dudes" or "toothless hillbillies threating to tie dominant women to the back of pickup trucks"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:16 PM
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I didn't just "say no"; I identified that all the data was self-reported when he had a half dozen psychological biases against men that could explain it, we have data that men still do less housework when both are single, potentially indicating that men are more efficient at it, and that your alternative take that "women are better multitaskers" was itself an outdated stereotype But yes, you can always talk about anecdotes when data doesn't back you up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:13 PM
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How many men intentionally are leaving messes? Yes the idea of revtrad is to in fact earn less and be the stay at home parent, i expect to do more of the cooking cleaning and parenting to a woman who earns more. I WANT to be an "uncle tom" or "union scab" type where I take on the stay at home parent/cook/cleaner role to troll feminists who think being a tradwife is like the most hardcore slavery The real inequality is that two breadwinners can eg equally earn 100k but then the homemakers have di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:05 PM
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Yes, their sexuality is making these women insanely wealthy, there are women who become millionaires off of onlyfans
/r/MensRights17/07/26 02:54 PM
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Yeah sounds like your insisting the researh that "proves" men don't pull their weight in housework when women earn more is totally valid when we debated for 30+ comments about the statistical fallacies behind them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:53 PM
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Harassed, and the point is that men are absolutely punished for being submissive to women. You just said they "open themselves up to harassment." Did you mean death threats etc, or did you mean they get flooded with messages from men who "love" them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:51 PM
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So what does this mean? Im not talking about turning a 1k income difference into a division of household labor, Im talking about if he earns 60k and she earns nothing, yeah bitch should clean up her "sons" messes, because most actual mothers only do that shit because they similarly expect their real sons to financially provide too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:44 PM
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What are you talking about, Andrea's feminism is winning if you look at sex work in general, and pornography is usually heavily socially shunned even if legal And what does porn and prostitution have to do with men's sexual power exactly? Lol
/r/MensRights17/07/26 02:38 PM
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No but it is about exchanges that feel fair Like is it really a rocket science concept that you should either earns something comparable or be prepared to prace kikimora craft (cooking/cleaning/parenting)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:34 PM
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Well I want to keep finances seperate im my future relationship, but im in the minority That also doesn't sort out if one person pays the rent, but ther other person lives with them and etc. That's "seprate finances" but it's not really fair until you pick up a broom or pot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:32 PM
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Why are you telling the red pill this and not feminists? Feminists are the ones convinced women only started working in the 1970s thank to femininst
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:30 PM
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Yeah, like when I asked you to explain how "right-wing manosphere shills" support violence, and you are a brick who refuses to engage. If you want me to turn Roy Den Holander etc into clickable links, I can, uit's just that I have previously hit the "I ain't reading all of that" limit with you before, so I don't see why I should bother; you are almost always bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:09 PM
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You asserted that "it's impossible to respect women as people and be antifeminist" I gave two examples where I think anti feminists respect women more than feminists: they pretend women only started working in the 1970s, and they scare women away from STEM fields, gaming, and politics by exaggerating the misogyny in those fields. Again, stop pretending that invoking outside elements means that I'm going off topic. They have a connection to what was initially said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:05 PM
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You really really do not want to be saying that you like submissive men as a woman with your name attached to it. The levels of harassment can be unreal. Data? Pew research show men are harssed more than women I don't recall women being forced to ride a donkey backwards 300 years ago when tehy were submissive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:47 PM
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Yeah because if you don't earn as much as him, you are actually not an equal partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:27 PM
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'Food and sex are pretty linked for a lot of people I guess. Maybe fruit are more “erotic” subconsciously for some reason." Yeah, it's not really my thing; if you pressed me, I might be able to get into something like licking chocolate syrup off a belly or something that kinda "fits" like that. The people eating pastrami sandwiches etc off each other is too much for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3DG4RN_DNQ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:23 AM
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Iirc, if you correct for the fact that there are male perpetrators in the lesbian statistics, lesbians are still the most violent dv group
/r/MensRights17/07/26 07:29 AM
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"why then people do studies" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:53 AM
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You didn't post any proof; you posted Wikipedia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCf9VRLnDY
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:44 PM
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Childish, no proof was furnished and you dont care you are going off topic Reply notifications off https://youtube.com/watch?v=7mL6OqvHFis
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:43 PM
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lol I'm trying to get back onto the rails of the daycare topic, and you are derailing to talk about the "nazi" Sounds like cope now that you have been shown up by data Or what were you saying about the male loser epidemic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk7NqfCL0Ts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:36 PM
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No he's not, he's on fucking youtube, twitter, dailymotion, and substack right now How about we just look at the never-accused-of-being-a-nazi" sources he's using for his daycare claims: "Multiple studies showing that children's cortisol levels (a stress marker) often rise over the course of the day in center-based childcare but decline at home. This is a well-replicated finding (e.g., research involving Watamura and colleagues, Geoffroy et al., Vermeer et al., and others). Stronger effects note…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:27 PM
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lol when the most nazi-esq argument in this discussion was made by you when you said "if you don't like your office job just work it harder," like "work sets you free" and "you get what you deserve" lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLJjPVYscaw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Td10o2jpk
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:01 PM
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HOLY SHIT EPIC EDIT, statistical fallacies and counter studies indicating men do just as much housework as women (not that they *shouldn't* do housework, strawman) are now racist nazi talking points, lol It's about time reverse traditionalism gets falsely accused of being nazi (because Wikipedia called some other guy a nazi and that's proof enough for you); it looks like we're becoming a real part of the manosphere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DwFOe935hY
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:36 PM
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No your just not paying attention, then chalking up the errors from your own ignorance/laziness to the other person Lazy solipsism, reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:33 AM
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No, you said "right wing MRAs who promote violence," so i talked about manosphere violence vs feminist violence Like you are choosing to not follow the conversation, it very clearly has a flow that you just aren't taking seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:28 AM
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Lol no evidence, you are in such a female supremacy huff that you feel no need to explain yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:34 AM
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If a teacher at your kids' school was into loli/shotacon, would you say "fantasy is one thing, reality is another" to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:39 AM
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Then why do they want their men working instead of raising children? The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:30 AM
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60% of men vs. ~47% of women have at least one fantasy where they dominate a partner; that's like half of you Like, every time I see a stat on women being pervy, it's always like *half* of you, and you have *such* squeaky clean reputations despite that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:12 AM
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Show me the violence the manosphere supports? We've got maybe a few dozen people dead from incels going full Elliot Rodger, and Roy Den Hollander was a case of "MRA shoots MRA then mysteriously dies," vs we have millions dead from lopsided feminist domestic violence policy and the tender years doctrine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:44 AM
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Yeah, one of my fantasies involves a woman riding me so hard that she causes like an insanely loud pussyquake with shit falling off the walls etc. and I don't wanna be someone who just starfishes because they are lazy, it's just kinda needed for the rest of the fantasy to work Like, do that on my birthday and I'll put in effort into being raped (what?) every other time of the year
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:49 AM
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I dont, I think it full of some feminists and some neutrals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:56 PM
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the likelihood of me having an orgasm is pretty small with most guys. You haven't found an LTR with a guy who rolls a "cunnilingus if I finish first" policy? Or would that not work because you view that as the guy being submissive? I *never* leave girls hanging; I would munch and finger for hours, because I know it is fucking torture to get closer but never finish. The only problem is that she might need like an hour, and by that point *I* need to take the trash out again after watching her reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:44 PM
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Or just "women dig men with scars so much, sometimes they will put them on you themselves" https://youtu.be/VGPW1y06buo?t=430
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:27 PM
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So nobody made him pay for your dildos, great
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:23 PM
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I mean, female rapist fantasies are all over Gone Wild Audio, those girls have a better understanding of rape than most feminsts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:12 PM
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Yeah, you prob think that's an example of me being "2 percent honest as usual" because everything you say is projection I'm just going to assume your post was "something about rough-and-tumble play" and assume it's therefore evil
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:05 PM
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without the rights I have now I wouldn’t be allowed to be as sexually free. And women's rights and feminism are two separate things I have my own bank account to buy my kink gear. Women only didn't have bank accounts, etc because men were required to financially provide for them. It's very likely your brother or father would be forced to pay for your dildos via a coal miner job The being called a misogynist is starting to work for me, is why I mentioned the retaliation thing earlier. It feels li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:00 PM
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I don't think female rapist fantasy kink is a small number, and I'm sure there are a sizeable portion of women who are basically no limits whatsoever if they are the dom
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:37 PM
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It means this: You don’t want a woman who considers herself a feminist even if her reason for being a domme comes from the freedoms she perceives she’s been granted through feminism How much feminism was there in 1869 when "Venus in Furs" was written? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii_J3qJ0ba4 Also, people calling me a "misogynist" is very quickly starting to "work for me"; I noticed the other day that after getting *way* into submission, bullying comments from female snoos hit COMPLETELY diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:26 PM
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What if it's male breadwinner + female stay-at-home kikimora, but the man is submissive in the bedrooms? Because everybody thinks female breadwinners are supposed to be femdoms, but 1 hiring a paid submissive is waaay more stigmatized than paid dominants; many people consider it "real slavery." 2 The high-earning women I've known (bank executives who yelled at people all day) were UBER submissive in the bedroom, not just because of the erotic irony, but because they are genuinely exhausted from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:48 PM
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it’s just [] giving men an excuse to beat up women. You mean women are cooking up excuses for men to beat them like they so often crave, sure, based on the fact that 90% of both the red and blue pill in this section are talking about how much women hate submissive men, and the success of 50 shades of grey etc? What U Crave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyKbqmDhYUw I heard there's a patriarchy in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, where men beat their wives until they get as wet, just thinking about that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:27 PM
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Where's the room for two people respecting each other when one is drawing a connection between being "dominant in politics" and being dominant in the bedroom? That's a person who doesn't view it as play, or doesn't view it as sort of a "let's make sexual heroin for each other" session
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:53 PM
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You enjoy hating women and yelling at them because you like or want to be hated by woman. No? I hate *myself,* and I want the kind of dark submission that makes me feel like I am shedding my mortal coil and ascending into a higher level of consciousness It's again, sometimes the last thing I want to think about is my female rapist raping me, but other times it's "everyone in the world treats me like dirt, so yeah, the person I make love to might as well do the same..." You know who I really am b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:33 PM
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"You don’t want a woman who considers herself a feminist even if her reason for being a domme comes from the freedoms she perceives she’s been granted through feminism" I especially don't want a domme who draws a connection between what goes on in the bedroom -> politics, no. The motto of the antifeminist women's rights advocates sub is "the personal is not political" in big bold letters And I definitely don't want a woman who literally believes feminism was responsible for her freedom (rather t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:11 PM
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I don't know why the fuck you think I should give a shit what you think when you openly started a witch hunt where you convinced 40+ people on Reddit that I intended to divorce and steal custody of my children and "give a middle finger to my wife's sacrifices" Like, you are pulling the "as a woman" card like I should give a shit what you think when you are one of the first people to make me understand why defemation is actually a criminal offence rather than civil in some countries, Like I kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:56 PM
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You'd be telling her to do things she doesn't want to, which will be described as coercion in online spaces. What do you mean she "doesn't want to do them"? She can just say no if I reach a limit, and I won't force her to do anything. I'm just saying that would be the actual mechanics that she could get into or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:47 PM
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But women don't like the "safe" way of acting out a blood kink either, it's usually actalually men who want to do sexy things while she's on the rag and women who don't, like out of embarrassment etc. Strange
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:31 PM
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Yeah it sounds like the bdsm profile i saw like 15 years ago where a woman said "if you've ever had anything in your ass, don't ever talk to me because you're not a real man" Feminsts: "Men enforce toxic masculinity" Red pill men: "No they don't, women do" Red pill women: "yeah, we do"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:12 PM
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Oh, so what if it's not formal femdom, just a woman giving me a rape fantasy (with her as the rapist)? I guess that's not the same as formal femdom, but that's great; I'm not really looking for the cheesy femdom. I imagine when a female mra and a male mra hook up, the female mra giving the male one a rape fantasy would look like this, and a feminist would roll a weird formal femdom that's not really stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:12 AM
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From paying and providing resources Not happening, going to be a stay at home dad who only works part time for a hypogamous woman. I don't consider *that* part submissive (or blue pill at this point) I consider the stay-at-home parent dominant over the breadwinner will not be changing the tyre on a highway Yeah, but that's not my fucking job either; Triple A can handle it, I will pump my own gas that's it, I'm not a car guy Karen Starughn grew up doing this kind of Tim Allen shit btw, her family…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:09 AM
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I refuse to believe women do not get off being dominant, female rapists are things, female abusers are things, and women being women everywhere else are things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:04 AM
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You mean when 50 people on Reddit give me an armchair diagnosis, they all diagnose me with 50 different things? Because I was thinking the opposite: when over 100+ antifeminists, including expert psychologists, produce a diagnosis for not just the average feminist, but feminist ideology itself, they unanimously come back "borerline persoanlity disorder," I think the fact that we can make up our mind gives our diagnosis a bit more weight
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:02 AM
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You are not seriously engaging; you are just saying a black woman in a happy relationship with a MGTOW man supports violence with no evidence. These girls are NOT female abusers, feminsts women often are (amber heard)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:57 AM
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You can't respect women as people and be a feminist I've had fantasies about deprogramming a feminist female breadwinner where I just tell her, "get a male feminist in here who pretends you only started working in the 1970s to fuck you one thrust for every year since 1970, and me as the non-feminist women's rights advocate gets tothurst for every year since women in ancient Rome controlled 30% of businesses 2000 years ago and see who gets you on the floor babaling incoherintly" And then I tell h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:53 AM
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OMG yes, Doctorandomercam is a MGTOW MRA who eventually wound up hooking up with a red pill gf, MRA women are the only women I feel safe with Again, they don't say it's about them gaining power if and when they dom
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:43 AM
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And also: The person who really goes out of their mind when they are kink-ifyed and experiences outer space levels of pleasure from it, is the person who belongs in therapy instead of a kink dynamic But you know who belongs in a kink dynamic? Feminist femdoms who openly view it as an attempt to gain power over men, oh yeah you'll get safe, sane, and consensual out of those girls for sure /s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:16 AM
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I do respect her as a person. If she's a feminist, I will leave her and find a woman who isn't a feminist. That's me holding her accountable for her choice to be a feminist and respecting her agency. I mean, you can just poll female mras if they are ever dominant or physically sadistic; Karen Straighn sometimes treats her husband to three ways with other girls, and she's very obv dominant towards those other girls at least; I think she fantasized on air a few times about getting aggressive towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:06 AM
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I'm not into that man lol, I was sexually assaulted by kids attacking my balls on a school bus when I was 14, and CBT always just reminds me that, and I don't like the "formality" of spanking It's female rapists' fantasies that make me a bit nutty, and blades cutting me, cigarette butt out on me, and a few other things like that Like I said, it's nothing about either of ours social status or some sort of female empowerment; it's just "my orgasm is times 1000 if this shit goes down, especially wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:54 AM
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Yeah, what's the body count on this dom if we are talking red pill here? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:43 AM
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What about dominant masochism? You *tell* her to spit on you, hurt you, etc with direct, clear commands Because that actually describes women's typical masochism, to me. Like I said, I don't believe stay-at-home parents are submissive to breadwinners; I believe it's the other way around, so if you believe the red pill solution to LTRs is "trad :D" then you do believe men should be *actually* submissive to women in my book, not just token submission in sexuality alone According to the strongest r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:38 AM
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"I’ve never met a femdom who wasn’t a massive feminist. " I believe Anna Cherry (porn star and camgirl MRA) does femdom, and probably makes 50x any pleb feminist femdom you know. I'm less into formal, cheesy femdom and just street female rapist and female domestic abuser fantasies; I just found out an author of an audio I was a fan of from years ago has a female rapist audio too, and she actually says "if you get me preg i will take you court and you will have to pay for the baby" like MRAs are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:28 AM
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Yeah she will care when she leaves me And people do care if it's extreme enough (a woman cutting me might get mental health services or the law involved)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:58 AM
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And I should take advice from a guy with a virgin flair why? I'm pretty sure most red pill dudes would be at least clever enough to say "Spin five plates, try to get your submissive shit out of your system with your worst one, then trash her and get into an ltr with one of the others"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:50 AM
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IIRC, the best research says men and women both prefer the submissive role, but women more so So yes and no "The mistake that submissive men often make is that they still sexually objectify dominant women, " Yeah, here we go: the lectures by feminist femdoms who complain about not being respected enough by men who (sometimes literally) beg to drink their urine, because there is just no winning with feminism 'and don’t consider that to be submissive is to give yourself up to someone else’s whims.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:43 AM
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Women don’t do it because of how it looks, but because there are real consequences if you don’t clean. Yeah, it's just "men are messy assholes" and then anecdotes about your dad instead of data Another award that needs this https://youtu.be/pdofyKSWEik?t=132
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:25 AM
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Yeah, and all these "for fault" standards were harsher on men than women; the only time they weren't was because men owed alimony and women did not https://youtu.be/6WSn7vTSGZI?t=1064 Would you like five 60-year-old toothless women to check to see if you can get an erection when your wife claims sexual abandonment in a divorce? I'm pretty sure that where the Salem witch trials came from, five guys had that happen to them, then became the patriarchy and enacted psychotic schizo revenge
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:55 AM
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Well 50 50 custody has reduced rates of divorce. I have no idea what Ann Colter's idea of making divorce harder would look like, but I would suggest that to her, because it's also social progressivism, and it's always everybody's greatest troll when alabama, missori, and florida are like half the most progressive states in the biggest way possible (literally the structure of the family lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:44 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdU6ylem38
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 AM
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Ya? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NioMSFZliA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94pEjn0c8cc (reply notification off)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:40 AM
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What excuses? "You aren't presenting any evidence" isn't an excuse Again: You have yet to furnish a single Nazi or white nationalist quote or similar as actual evidence that this dude is a white nationalist. We have you making yourself a laughingstock by claiming that an *anarchist* is a *nationalist.*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:35 AM
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Yes, when you listen to Aristotle, you are listening to a literal slavery apologist; when you listen to the Founding Fathers, you are listening to some racist and sexist motherfuckers. When feminists listen to Mary Wollstonecraft, they are listening to a racist! When I practice vegetarianism, that is me actually following a Nazi idea! As a bisexual Polish dude, omg! It's actually pretty embarrassing that you think separating a person's bad from their good is intrinsically laughable. It's embarra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:14 AM
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"Obviously you didn’t look to see the sources which also confirm he’s been banned from every major platform because of his white nationalist agenda." Because he's been accused of having a white nationalist agenda "It also notes his followers are declared a cult." Yeah, and they're wrong if his "followers" don't have to agree with *everything* he says. Like if this nazi shit were true, and I just said, "well, I don't agree with the nazi shit, but I agree with his parenting stuff," that would be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:50 AM
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Why the fuck would wikipedia know anything about who is and isn't a nazi / white nationalist? You should have called him a "white nationalish" https://youtu.be/SR7jWitZNvI Lol at calling an anarchist any kind of nationalist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:29 AM
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Yeah it doesn't matter what i say with you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddy-mPR04Fw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:09 PM
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Are we comparing daycare kids to kids given proper free play, or to kids who were just raised in a bubble? And are we using anecdotal data, or real data https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpwMuTrQ364 And I don't know what you mean by "cordial soul ," I assume you mean "cortisol?" No, the experts criticizing daycare are not red pillers selling testosterone supplements to three-year-olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:21 PM

Bad faith, reply notifications off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:15 PM

"We have no data so I'm right!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:48 PM
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If working an office job is “too much” for either then work it harder to get the promotion to get the raise to hire house cleaners. No, because daycare is bad for kids, and that's what two people equally working turns into. It increases cortisol levels and increases behavioral issues, and it doesn't teach as good socialization as free play. Any parent who thinks "muh career" or another parent "pulling their weight" is more important than avoiding chemical changes in children doesn't deserve to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:45 PM
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I'm assuming sarcasm based on the "without communicating with" part, which is a strawman. I have like 6 ish requirements. Women typically have more requirements than me, but they are not upfront about them My requirements are "lets me be a stay-at-home dad" and do some basic "don't be a child abuser" things like "don't circumcise"; show me a woman who wants to be a tradwife stay-at-home lump of shit, OR a woman who wants an equal relationship, who has fewer requirements than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:27 PM
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And nobody ever actually addresses my arguments, like half a dozen biases in the studies showing men don't pull their weight in housework. They just say "mental illness" and then bail. I'm chalking it up to "the genius of the crowd" https://youtu.be/66cRAZroII0?t=1785
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:22 PM
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Scroll down for sources
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:11 PM
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Why are you the third person to bail from data with an insistence that anecdotal evidence is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:10 PM
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No the argument is wlthat women are in fact more abusive than men depending on what we are looking at
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:08 PM
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I mean the female breadwinners horde the wealth, not a horde of kikimora
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:13 PM
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So do I want to move to Australia because women will believe me that I can be a good housebitch, or do I want to stay in America so I have my monopoly and potentially a harem/spinnable plates of female breadwinners because im the only good one?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:12 PM
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Women's complaints (in the domestic space) aren't just about quality, but also quantity. So, even if it could be argued that the quality is always high in both professional and domestic spaces, it may not matter if there is a far lower level of contribution in domestic spaces to begin with. But again, we have data that men still do less housework when single too, and we have half a dozen biases in the stats, so we have no idea For example, most men may have a female therapist, only because there…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:43 PM
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It's a deep, world wide feminized agenda to lie about what it is like to live with a man. Strawman, these are unconscious biases; a guy below furnished a study saying women misreport their number of hours depending on weather a man or a women are interviewing them. (Don't tell them about our annual meetings) You mean the NOW meeting where they shut down shared parenting? Because I intend to keep telling lots of people about those meetings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:35 PM
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No, slaves are people who have their children taken from them and are forced to give their earnings to someone else, get the questions right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:24 PM
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The kikimora is a folk monster that is usually a female housekeeper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUG2dIcWd4 I thought it would be funny if antifeminist tradwives and reversing husbands called themselves kikimoras, like how feminists call themselves witches. In fact, the Puyo Puyo series has a scene where their "witch" character and their "kikimora" character fight over a broom https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z9-fYA4VqYM https://youtu.be/LWwMqAg8JAY?t=342 The witcher series renders the kikimor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:20 PM
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I have no idea; the best would be couples who basically let themselves be spied on (like a reality show, but with 1000+ couples and a way to comb through all the video data), and then we would still have observer bias to deal with. But we can also say we have data out of Australia that is *also* self-reported, etc, but contradicts this and shows men do more kikimora craft than their female breadwinners, finally, so who do we believe? Australian women happen to have the hottest accents to me; is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:07 PM
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If you look up men's living spaces meme, it's not that men are messier or dirtier, it's that they are simpler. They want a couch + TV being the entire apartment; maybe lots of guys have a futon, or no dining area separate from the TV, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZTGiotp_AM So men want a simpler design and then do less housework. Women want a more complex design, and then they do more housework. Actually sounds fair to me. Women are the pharaohs demanding male slaves build elaborate, co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:48 PM
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https://www.ons.gov.uk Self reported data https://eige.europa.eu Self reported data Weird that the majority of women in relationships all have the same lived experience No, that's exactly what I would expect from self-reported data
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:40 PM
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Yeah the actual nannies in latvia are male, and you pay for male custodians, I said most pro nannies are female but you pay men to clean all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:24 PM
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Not doing half of the parenting is a reason to divorce. If I hook up with a career woman who lets me be a stay-at-home dad I am *absolutely* not dumping her for not doing half the parenting; I am buying that woman a "World's Greatest Mom" coffee mug and railing that bitch nightly like ketamine I will have to consult with the red pill council of doom as to how sexually submissive I *can* be without her losing respect for me, because it would be genuinely hard to not be submissive to a woman who l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:17 PM
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Or those people should bow the fuck out if the subject matter is too complicated for them I don't use a "dumbed-down lay explanation" of how brain surgery works, and then bully brain surgeons ; I just say "I don't know" and back the fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:24 PM
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Yes, I am the king https://www.wcostream.tv/space-ghost-coast-to-coast-season-6-episode-1-chambraigne I'm so glad I resigned myself to only debating people on Reddit after smoking weed; there is no more rage anymore, just shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:20 PM
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Maybe other people, but this post is "we actually are doing our chores, so haul ass to the coal mine ladies please"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:04 PM
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So you won't be one of the people accusing me of having an "imaginary girlfriend" for even believing in trying to have a plan/goal before I have a real relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:03 PM
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No, but you misinterpreting "i want to be a stay-at-home dad to protect custody if my wife is abusive, otherwise, I will give her 50 50 custody off the books" as "he just wants to steal the baby to 'stick it to her'" and getting 40 people on the internet to believe it, was probably not intentional at all. I believe you probably were unintentionally evil like that, if such a thing is possible. I mean you honestly thought the person closer to having a mental disorder (having a "manic episode") was…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:00 PM
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You mean engaging in Socratic questioning? That is what being intentionally dumb looks like; thanks for self-reporting that you are being the other kind of dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:52 PM
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I'm not sure who does/doesn't do the grocery shopping is settled in trad or reversed trad. You could argue the person who cooks needs to be able to decide the products, and that they should have the privilege that comes with it too, but you can also say the breadwinner pays for them. You can show me where this is sorted in something like Gary Becker's theory of marriage or furnish some data
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:51 PM
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No, I have no idea what you mean. Your initial post was you accusing me of saying it as far as I am concerned, regardless of whatever the male tampons who lurk on this sub are doing to the ratio and whatever totally-not-an-echochamber peanut gallery shit you guys are into
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:45 PM
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Men give women money all the time for just being women who exist and fuck them. Don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about, and those sentences were completely incoherent Male breadwinners have no problem bankrolling stay-at-home moms when they want that luxury; female breadwinners have such high standards that they make their own existence effectively impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:36 PM
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So we're going with the worst answer possible https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:28 PM
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That doesn’t change the fact that women shouldn’t be picking up after a lazy partner And it doesn't change the fact that the data we have "proving" men don't pull their weight in housework is extremely dubious; it's all self-reported. We have women reporting more housework when other women interview them vs men, and we have other biases, and counter data Men allegedly being shitter maids than women doesn't change the fact that children should not have to put up with abusive mothers. The biggest …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:20 PM
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https://youtu.be/RZp6gky3FKQ?t=6303 Real Sources; Farnoosh Torabi / When She Makes More, UBS "Own Your Worth" reports, and others
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:09 PM
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"And you can stop with the ‘let’. " I mean, if you guys deleted the "let" from Trump saying "they let you grab them by the pussy" I guess it would make sense that you would delete my let too "It’s more like men don’t pay attention to the fact that the cleaning products need replacing, or what packed lunch things and snacks need picking up, when the kids are running short on something, clothes need replacing, shoes are getting too small, gifts for their friends when they’ve been invited to anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:02 PM
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Yeah I specifically said professional maids and nannies are mostly professional women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:58 PM
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Who is deciding the majority of Female genital mutilation, slut shaming (hint: women) and who controls 70%+ of consumer spending, and who is 55% of voters, and we have data that children learn sexist attitudes from mothers more than fathers? Like if you honestly think "men are killed more often, but other men are doing it" is a rebuttal to anything you are just projecting, feminists actually do want a man vs women war, where as MRAs want a male and female MRA vs male and female tradcon/feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:55 PM
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Women are mostly safer with men than men are with women Women agress more than men in domestic violence, mens is more severe but 70% of dv victims who never hit back are men, so it is actually just a miniority of men being that severe. The statement "women are majority perpetrators on an individual basis" is true. For rape, best data indicates men do it to women 10% more often at most. I would take that 10% if it meant that ky rape would have a better chance of beibg taken seriously by the crimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:07 AM
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Yeah im just saying, it's telling "the patriarchy" could finally create hypogamus women if they wanted to, but they refuse and genocide men instead
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:00 AM
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Then stop hiring professional men to cook your meals and clean up after you and your kids, as you do, according to the statistics Ungrateful female breadwinners, male breadwinners let stay-at-home moms control 50%ish of the finances on average, female breadwinners to male kikimora horde 80%-90% of the wealth and use the men as playingthings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:55 AM
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So if we reduced the female population, suddenly the women that are left over will start paying us? I mean, that is just indirect economic polyandry without the kin selection element (when 2 men share a woman, it's usually economic, and they are usually related, like two brothers who work a farm)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:46 AM
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I saw data from Pew the other day that again showed men do less housework than women when they are single, so again, the possibility that men only log fewer hours because they are more efficient at housework returns, this time backed up by something better than the Clorox advertisement poll
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:41 AM
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I'm waiting for someone to express incredulity at the phrase "kikimora triforce" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjv1SbLdPCY
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:34 AM
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Thank you for the tip, we now have reason like number seven as to why these "women aren't getting the male maids they deserve" "studies" are totally bogus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:31 AM
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No, I am assuming that the purchases of people paying men to do this kikimora shit are 70% women. Do we need to establish whether it's a minority of women or a majority, or what are we looking for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:30 AM
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Because they actually usually pay you, as indicated when I said they actually usually pay you Omg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:26 AM
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No, because they're getting ripped off? Men are cheaper; they actually usually pay you (I won't, but most will)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:16 AM
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"Also, household/consumer shopping is "women's work." When did I say that? I said women control 70%-80% of consumer spending If I said 55% of voters are women, is that me calling voting in a democracy "women's work"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:15 AM
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Uh no, because the surrogate who only charges 80k also is risking all the same things. It is as close to equal as we can "For example, if you could spare your wife from suffering pelvic floor prolapse and perineal tears, would you do that for your child?" You mean if I could get mpreg myself and risk all of that shit for a child? I would do that, sure, which is why I'm a patriarchal shitload who expects her to be willing to sacrifice equally to my intent, as the only one who actually..... can "G…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:19 AM
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So first they say men don't do enough housework (especially in "reversed" relationships) and now they say women are paying men to do housework because they have such uber housework skills Make it make sense!
/r/MensRights14/07/26 03:24 AM
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It kind of baffles me that so many blue pill people don't understand that dating apps are shit, when most of them (and likely lots of the red pill) believe that capitalist health care is a scam, because they believe it leads them to promote treatments instead of prevention. Dating apps have the same problem: they don't want you in a LTR because then you stop using the app. The op criticizing Hinge for being advertised as "an app you are supposed to delete" makes no sense; you should be criticizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:13 AM
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Because men are worth it too? We have no idea what women making men feel like their worth something looks like, because they never do it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:03 AM
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So when did women need men 250 years ago? During that time, men would be forced to provide for women, as in adult sisters (and women could STILL get pleb jobs as coal miners etc on top of it) When have men ever needed women according to this logic? Women were a formal expense then and they are an informal expense now... and a formal expense now usually too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:52 AM
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Women literally need men in order to breed, and single parenthood should never be the starting point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:02 AM
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Saudia Arabai, no, those places force men to provide financially for women (eg sisters) as the West did 250 years ago
/r/MensRights11/07/26 08:41 PM
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I find both sexually submissive women and sexually dominant women hot in different ways. I don't support women using the *legal system* to be "dominant" there
/r/MensRights11/07/26 05:55 AM
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If I could only read one, "the rational male," or "reignite?" Interested in cold approach -> LTR
/r/TheRedPill11/07/26 05:52 AM
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Allison Tieman used to say that according to certain domestic violence stats, teenage girls are the most violent group of people period.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/26 03:50 AM
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Yeah im moving to one of the six 50 50 custody states (Missori)
/r/MensRights11/07/26 02:17 AM
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No, they are not. If cooking, cleaning, and raising kids was the "submissive" role, more women would allow men to voluntarily take it on. They don't, they want workhorses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:25 AM
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And you are living up to the mott and bailey
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:23 AM
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What. Part. Don't. You. Understand. People want men to protect children. If someone breaks into a house with a stay at home mom, the onus is on her to protect the child. If someone breaks into a house with a stay at home dad, the onus is on him to protect the child. Thus, a stay-at-home dad is what you want if you want men to protect children. Like, I really don't know how you are NOT understanding at this point. The only thing I can think of is if you believe there should be an onus on men to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:20 AM
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Bruh, take the L and self-reporting of you viewing bad qualities as being "masculine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlvTsKYTeQ
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:16 AM
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People expect men to do the protecting in a relationship Thus, stay at home dads should be norm instead of stay at home moms, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:02 AM
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Unregulated surrogates top out at 80k so her pregnancy is really just her 40k contribution to the child. I'm ok with being expected to cough up 40k for the child, like for a child's college fund, becauae the child should be entitled to an equal contribution from parents who want 50% access in a divorce (in one of the states with a 50 50 custody policy) I don't see why she's entitled to a damn thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:58 AM
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No, it was very possible for women to go their entire life without reading, it was not possible for men who needed to provide
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:49 AM
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What don't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:46 AM
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Good, run from evil "baby napper" while men never run from women who ask for way more (putting alimony, custody, and asset division in their favor when the court is already biased for them) It will continue to make the statement it does about male and female nature
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:45 AM
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Great, you have nothing substantial to add, gonna go watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:45 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the bible says women are supposed to farm. The bible literally talks about women buying and selling shit and working
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:42 PM
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Only because men would die if they didn't know how to read EDIT: and because fathers, brothers, etc had to financially provide for women (eg sisters) back then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:30 PM

To morons on feminist Reddit! It doesn't sound like that to Men's Rights Reddit, where I get like 12 upvotes every comment I make saying "I want alimony in my favor in exchange for not having a DV and grape services"; it doesn't sound like that to dozens of people in real life, including my therapist. It doesn't sound like that to hot female MRAs like therapist honey badger The Prim Reaper, or hardcore MRA Allison Tieman, who said it might be necessary when we have data indicating 90% of new job…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:24 PM
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Oh, I'm so sorry, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:18 PM
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I like how half the posts on this sub have this image posted under them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:01 PM
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Why aren't stay-at-home dads protectors? Women are safer just walking down the street (like to their jobs) compared with men, so why do you need a dainty lil woman to do your dirty work of slaughtering trespassing pedos for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:55 PM
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It's literally just a link to a Brak show clip where Brak laughs at the word "monkies" If you can't have a text-based conversation and you're using nothing but text, and I can't have a text-based conversation but I'm throwing up YouTube links, I think I've got the better approach
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:49 PM
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Yeah or become one of the 30% of women in ancient Rome who ran businesses Or just be financially dependent on men, because fathers, brothers, etc had to financially provide for women (eg sisters) back then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:45 PM
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I have no idea what you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RdWnhO0uXc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:42 PM
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your wife sounds like she has neurological and psychiatric problems. Sounds like she's a rapist if she sabotaged birth control Would never have entertained 12+ years in the relationship if I had known about that from the start; that was always going to be bad news. That's my cue to bail and find a nice stepmom ten years younger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:40 PM
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If she does her housework and childrearing for 20 years and gets divorced she leaves with almost nothing. And no half marital assets isn't going to get her to retirement Why should she be entitled to retire after 20 years? "You can say that it was her choice to make herself vulnerable. And that's fine. But you could at least admit that the vulnerability itself is the sacrifice. Not just the cooking and cleaning" "And that vulnerability is a much bigger sacrifice than working." Then where are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:34 PM
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"having to over communicate due to the man's upbringing since no one talk him how to regulate their own emotions properly and how to help others with their own emotions" "A problem with their upbringing," as in they grew up with a single mother, and fathers are among the most important influences in a child learning to regulate emotions? women tend to also do the bulk of emotional labor in relationships They really don't; men are the ones that can't get away with criticizing their partner's anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:22 PM
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No, the opposite, when monkeys do that, we don't do anything about it, when humans do that, we call it a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:11 PM
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Feminism invented the idea that women are better nurturerers 250 years ago with the tender years doctrine, we had a men as the default single parent for thousands of years before then, and men being the majority of nurses and schoolteachers too
/r/MensRights10/07/26 07:01 PM

No, where's the part where I actually say that it's my goal? Again appeal to majority fallacy, a majority of people support religion and atheists are a minority, and it doesn't prove anything. And pretending Reddit is the majority too, when IRL i never met a single person who supported abortion until birth, but I have found like 100 people on reddit who do indeed support it, so I need to imagine reddit doesn't represent reality for my own faith in humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:43 PM
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When did i do that? Again, when a richer partner demands finaces be kept seperate via prenub, is thst "thinking of the poorer partners as the enemy" and planning to divorce? No, you simply say they want the emergency switch. So this is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:39 PM

Well, there's nothing about my posts that suggests I *plan* on divorcing and stealing custody, but that doesn't stop you, so I assume we get to just make shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:57 PM
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Yeah, I should get kids and *then* figure out how to protect them? Once again, fuck reddit for advice, because this is what 90% of the "advice" looks like. Like *you* don't even see how this is you being a bully; that's the crazy part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:55 PM
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And studues show 50 50 is best interest if none if the parents are neglectful or abusive So we should make the court operate under that assumption too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:59 PM
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You want a pat on the back for what men do? No I want child custody Who is likely to end up in poverty if there is a divorce? Who was likely poorer before the marriage? So how about some credit for what women have to do? The reality is pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and infant care is unbelievably demanding. Surrogates top out at 80k outside the USA; the child is entitled to an equal 40k contribution from the father. The woman is not entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:07 PM
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*saves link*
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:04 PM
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"I will never understand why it is greed to want to keep money you have earned, and not greed to take money from others" - Thomas Sowell
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:03 PM

That explains why your wife puts up with the beatings; mine will leave even though I won't beat her because I anticipate earning less than her, and that's what a "bad" husband is to you and most other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:50 PM
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The breadwinner should automatically give the stay at home partner a part of their paycheck that only the sahp has access too. I'm not sure I would need this as someone seeking stay-at-home fatherhood; I would rather a simple expectation that I have a part-time job and an onus to have savings on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:47 PM
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ou dont get to change terms. No, but I get to ask you what you meant when you used a term, and I get to claofy what I meant. You are planning on being a single dad, No, I'm not planning on being a single parent; I'm shooting for a lifelong partnership with monogamy. It's just that she could turn into an abuser. Again, I just told you that "I only want full custody if there's abuse," but it goes in one ear and out the other. while insulting single parents. I'm not insulting single parents who lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:29 PM
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Yes, women abuse children more than men do, including single mothers vs single fathers, so you can't blame it on time spent with the kid https://youtu.be/pDi4KxIR57I?t=17699 And women initiate domestic violence more, and 70% of DV victims who never hit back are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:09 PM
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"You have a serious obsession with talking about wanting to be a SAHD for all the wrong reasons," What is the right reason vs the wrong reason? The right reason to me is that the courts are biased against men *and their abused children.* The #1 reason I can think of is that "the courts will shut down my custody if I am abusive; they will not shut down her custody if she is abusive." That is a FANTASTIC reason, like a better reason than "I just feel like being a dad" "and spamming it all over the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:03 PM
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Yeah, after people lie and say I want to intentionally and deliberately divorce and steal the child, rather than I want the child to go to me *if* there's a divorce to compensate for a bias in the courts as much as possible. Like, there are chicks who literally stay with men who beat them, and you think a man who is literally taking steps to protect his kids from abusive women is going to have a hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:38 PM
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It depends on what you mean by "single parent," most people's idea of a "single father" is not a father who sees his kids every other weekend and pays support to the other parent, most people would describe that as a "single mother family" Because it matters more what YOU mean when you use a word than what a word "objectively" means https://youtube.com/watch?v=R-aKyci8PMQ and I don't "have it all planned out," i have requirements I'm going to screen for, just like when a woman wants an equal rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:32 PM
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No, I said multiple times that I would go 50 50 off the books unless she was abusive. But I now plan to relocate to a 50 50 state as a sign of good faith to her, as much as me; she never has to worry about a single father she pays child support to, and I never have to worry about the courts throwing out my stay at home fatherhood because sometimes they randomly do that, too. Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:54 AM
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Alimony and child support, as well as asset division during divorce, offer protections to women who give up some of their chances for professional success, so that they still have the ability to leave their relationships without fearing for their financial future. Those things also do it for men, but men putting alimony, asset division, and custody in their favor by choosing stay-at-home fatherhood *also* compensates for biased courts and a lack of equivalent DV and grape services for them And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:33 AM
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My dad also passed of a heart attack when I was four too, small world
/r/MensRights10/07/26 04:04 AM
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How infeasible is it to start with a woman who insists on some of this shit on the first date, and then "convert" her to an equal contributor? Even women who eventually wind up the breadwinner usually start with a little bit of this crap.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 04:02 AM
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why do men struggle to merely acknowledge that women are the only ones that have to suffer the consequences of having a child Because we get things in the mail that say "child support due," and it changes based on our income, so it's not strictly a biological offset Why does your man owe you a damn thing for you getting preg? Unregulated surrogate mothers top out at 80k worldwide; if you consent to having a child 50%, I figure your contribution to each child is 40k for getting preg. I am ok with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:51 AM
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The danger men face is from other men. Yeah, and? If the man is in more danger from other men vs a situation where he is in more danger from another woman, does that change the idea that he should be equally or more "scared"? . And when women go outside they risk being hurt by the men who are strangers but also by their date Yeah, the goalposts have to be "in the first few dates," or "specifically looking at rape or sexual violence' or "men's overall severity." If it's "who aggresses more in dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:32 AM
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Men don't usually risk their safety to go on a date when women definitely do We are talking about people going outside, yes? Men being outside on a date implies them literally walking down the street, where they are more likely to be assaulted than women. Unless you like to jump staright to going over to the guy's house
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:14 AM
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Men are going to be victims of robbery much more by men than women. "Men are going to be victimized more, but by other men" is still "men are going to be victimized more"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:12 AM

Yeah I think very obviously, women generally have a smaller quantity of orgasms, but a greater quality. When women do cum (and they mostly do) it's always crazy shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:44 AM

Why isn't it the common denominator when men take other men as partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:41 AM
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So you did in fact mean female wife? But then you wouldn't be a career woman? Men and women are very different, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:00 PM
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We have 500+ studies (Martin Feibert's 300 studies, Prim Reapers' 50-paper mega upload, and the partners' abuse state-of-knowledge project (over 5,000 court cases examined), and the work of Murray Strauss, etc showing that women initiate domestic violence more. We do have evidence that men's violence is more severe, but we also have evidence that 70% of domestic violence victims who never hit back are men, so it really is just a small minority of men being THAT severe that it distorts things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:13 PM
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So where's the part where there was an equal onus on the woman in this relashonship to look at the finacials and thus catch this error before their car was repossesed? If the whole thing was "it's his job to look at the finacials" then this is about him failing to "mother" her properly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:57 PM
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I’d be like 10x further in my career if I had another person dedicated to domesticity. Yeah, but then you call reverse traditionalism schizo :/ Like the whole problem with "red pill women" is that they end up just pushing the same stuff as feminism and traditionalists; they are just honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:49 PM
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they have no actual frame of reference for sex. Weren't you just in another thread talking about how women don't have orgasms as often as they are supposed to? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:39 PM
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So it's mothering when a couple follows Gary Becker's Theory of Marriage and engages in specialization? A male breadwinner is making the woman do all of the housework, and a male homemaker is making a woman do all of the financial provisioning, so we want equality even though it's the worst answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:34 PM
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Was sorting out the finances his job alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:27 PM
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No, I did in fact read them, just like how when Allison read the NCVIS 2010 and then gave a *reason* to discard the lifetime numbers in favor of the last year numbers. The point is, both sources that believe there IS a bias against fathers and sources that believe there is none acknowledge this statistical fallacy, as a steelman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:15 PM

What are you talking about, if you go to most r4r subs, most f4m posts are literally "just friends only for a few hours" like women want entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:40 PM
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I did read them, just like how we read the NCVIS 2010 and gave reasons why we believe last year numbers and not lifetime numbers The point is, even sources that say that there is no bias against fathers, cannot deny elswhere that this self selecting group fallacy exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:34 PM
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And again, NOW opposes shared parenting, so am I going to get an answer as to what they are upholding?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:21 PM
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You mean the source contradicted it's own conclusions? That is fine Also one of those sources was literally Glenn sacks, that's a men's rights blog, he absolutely does not believe fathers get custody when they seek it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:20 PM

Again, we only have on paper 5050 in six states, and NOW is continuing to oppose shared parenting, so there would be no bias if they weren't upholding something
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:53 PM
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I dont know that we have one. The explanation is that fathers don't fight when they think they won't win, that is the self selecting group fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:50 PM
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Some way of showing that fathers are being given an equal 50% opportunity and turning it down. The closest we can come that I know of, is looking at the 6 states with 50 50 custody agreements. As far as I can tell, we have data indicating that divorces dropped in all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:46 PM
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Self selecting group fallacy https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g/five_sources_on_how_fathers_get_custody_when_they/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:42 PM
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Women claim men commit the majority of violent crimes and they list statistics to prove their assertion. They cite criminal justice statistics, which do not account for a bias against men. Men, as some sort of low-effort, tit-for-tat argument because they refuse to acknowledge statistics and lack insight and self-reflection, claim that women are just as violent but are unable to produce statistics or date to validate that claim, as women simply don't commit the same volume of crimes as men. Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:37 PM
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Why are we talking about politics? That's not true at all, bro. There have been like 50+ male feminsts (particularly in the anti gamergate world) who have been busted for harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:29 PM
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Yeah, that's nothing compared to the millions dead via lopsided domestic violence policy and via the tender years doctrine, red pill people are teddy bears compared to feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:25 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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