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2

And her "goal" is to find a man with goals and hook onto him cause she's a bum bitch.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 05:13 PM
1

Ya and OP didn't give a shit until his buddy fucked a girl he had feels for. He's just being emotional and irrational. If you're done with her who cares who else fucks her. Also isn't OP's reaction also "putting pussy before male friends"?
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:11 PM
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It's only disrespectful cause OP is invested in the chick he already STOPPED fucking. He should try to stop feeling possession over chicks he drops. Also I don't see where his buddy lied. OP knew his buddy is about that and chose to ignore it. I could see being pissed if she was a LTR he was in love with. But a plate. Come on. She's not yours it's just your turn.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:09 PM
30

You dropped her. The fuck do you care? Women come and go. Dudes here are "red pill" in name only
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:22 AM
4

Congrats on improving your life and marriage. Feel free to ignore any of the (probably) single guys here talking shit about your mistress, and live your own life.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:56 PM
3

This story makes no sense to me. But you shouldn't have given her money after your first date, if you did.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:52 PM
10

Elaborate on "told her what I really felt about her".
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 03:52 PM
26

This is when you get on some godfather shit. never take sides with anyone outside of the family again, ever.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 02:49 PM
19

While this sounds too much like a redpill dear penthouse letter, and you oversold it a little with the "my brother flipped a switch from doormat to alpha" bit at the end, it's a great story. He threw 200 bucks at her and said nothing. My nigga.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 03:15 PM
2

Many women like seeing men dominated by other men.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/14 10:36 PM
8

I've been listening to hip hop for 20 years. Firstly, the "alpha rappers" lay countless 10/10s due to status and fame. Drake was a thirsty dude just like everyone else before he got famous. Girls fucking rap stars is hypergamy, not some killer game on their part. Secondly, most of these hood niggas talking about all the bitches who suck their dick then get kicked out are fucking a nasty hood bitch you wouldn't fuck with his dick. Rap culture is hypergamy run wild. It's the result of a society de…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/14 02:44 PM
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ITT: hot white guy bragging with no actionable advice. If you're not going to share your bio or an example bio that is similar in nature/tone/funniness this is pretty pointless.
/r/seduction18/05/14 05:13 PM
-7

"That's very impressive" "Great story. When's it coming out in paperback?" Ignore
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 12:37 PM
1

Girls don't care about looks as much as you do. They never will. For a one night bang, sure he may be an attractive prospect, but a lot of chicks aren't looking for a one night bang. My buddy is a legit 10. He gets approached regularly on the street by modeling scouts for Abercrombie etc. When we go out he's needy and passive and unconfident with women. It destroys him with even 7s who end up hooking up with me instead, it's great.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 03:37 PM
-4

1) why don't you just use screenshots like the rest of the world. I don't need to watch a video for a minute to get 5 seconds of information. 2) how attractive are you? 3) I collect numbers on tinder all day. If you ain't fuckin it don't mean shit. All that said, I can see how this would be useful for newbies.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 11:14 PM
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I think you've fundamentally misread the situation, though I agree it's a fantastic redpill example. This woman was NEVER loyal to him, and never had "feelings" for him that she lost due to his insecurity. It was beta bucks from the start. He's 80. She's 31. He's given her millions of dollars worth of shit. She was recording their conversations, and leaked them deliberately to ruin this man. Women aren't loyal to men who buy their affections. It was a sex for money arrangement, he never possesse…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 04:13 AM
1

Congrats on the phone number bro!
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 02:23 PM
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Bicycle/skateboard/fucking rollerblades. You can run to the gym if you need to. Also why can't you walk 10 miles a day? You've got better shit to be doing right now? You have a computer. Learn to code. HTML/CSS, JavaScript, node.js, Python. Get freelance jobs you can even do from home. You're 18. That's young as fuck. Start now and you can salvage your life, trust me I've been down before.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 03:02 AM
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Man on a mission. Heroin counts.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/14 04:25 PM
1

Given your second edit, it seems more reasonable but the fact that you're being applauded for telling your mother to "fuck off" moves me further from TRP.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 09:48 PM
1

You can't fuck a girl cause your best friend doesn't like her?
/r/TheRedPill29/03/14 10:43 PM
11

I really don't think men "get shamed constantly" for not wanting to bang trannies.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 02:16 AM
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Nowhere in this thread have I defended fat chicks in any way shape or form, so I'm curious why you'd wonder such a thing. Work on your reading comprehension skills bud.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 07:40 PM
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I can't really say women are "less hot that they used to be". I'm 29. Their hotness has been relatively constant my entire life. Are you saying you've adjusted your life because women "aren't as hot as they used to be"? You try less hard? If that's the case it's even more critical to reach the heights of success and improve yourself since you're competing for a smaller pie containing the most eligible women. Unless your argument is that it's pointless because there's virtually no hot chicks. In …
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 07:36 PM
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Agreed, that's why I put it in quotes.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 07:26 PM
7

The core tenets of TRP - regarding sexual strategy - makes logical sense to me, is backed up by scientific research (the myth of monogamy, the red queen, the selfish gene), and can be observed anecdotally in my life. The same cannot be said for "fat chicks are making men lazy".
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 06:24 PM
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That's not evidence of anything except that obesity is on the rise, which is not the contentious part of the argument. I'm not denying obesity is on the rise. We all know that. The president's wife is running a campaign against it. I'm questioning the dubious conclusion that the reason men are "dropping out" - which I suppose means generally performing less well all the way from elementary school through to college (but not necessarily in careers) - is because women (and presumably pre-pubescent…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 05:36 PM
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The onus is on the author to argue with "valid points". If he doesn't make any, but just states a conclusion as fact, there's not much for me to do but disagree. However, I'll reply at greater length why it's a poorly made argument later tonight, I'm at work at the moment and can't write an essay on reddit.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 05:11 PM
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I'm not referring to you judging other men on their choice of partners, which is some other shit, but men choosing their partners (or not) because they'd be embarrassed to be seen with them and seeking the approval of others on their mate choice.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 05:08 PM
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Well I've already explained how there's no research, no evidence, and simply the author stating two "facts", one that obesity is on the rise and two that men are less ambitious, and stating a priori that the former is causing the latter. That's not an argument, it's just saying a thing (note he doesn't even say it is true he says it may be the cause, which is a useless assertion). If you want me to poke holes in his theory point by point I can do so, but I certainly don't have a counter argument…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:32 PM
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Yes it's true but the extent to which it's true increase with the insecurity of the man in question. I used to date hot chicks for external validation. Now I still like hot chicks obviously but it's less so due to how it will look to others. If you were the "idealized TRP male" you'd fuck who you find attractive. Reminds me of Seinfeld when George is asking Jerry if he thinks his gf is pretty. He's the definition of the insecure man.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:24 PM
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So have I. That doesn't make it any less insecure.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:20 PM
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The problem with RoK, and the vast majority of TRP articles, is it's just some dude making shit up that he's theorized with absolutely no evidence, research, or even, it appears, critical thinking applied. This article is fucking retarded.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 03:08 PM
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Why do men value attractive partners? Well, you might say it is because it is more fun to have sex with a pretty woman. But another, perhaps more important reason, is that the type of woman a man is able to attract is an advertisement, a direct reflection of his worth in society. Watch a reasonably normal-sized man leave a building with his overweight girlfriend or even a platonic friend. He often walks ahead of or behind her. He cringes at the thought that people will see them together and conc…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 03:06 PM
4

Unfortunately, asking "is what I'm doing manly?" is incredibly insecure as well.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 02:55 PM
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This comment is dumb on several levels.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 05:52 PM
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Hipster seems to be a generic catch all term for an urban dude following current fashion trends (beard, skinny jeans, plaid, glasses whatever). Sure some are lame douches, and some are cool. Just like pretty much every group in the world.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 05:04 PM
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I know lots of "hipsters" fucking fine girls on the regular. But sure, let's go off the anecdotes of one girl on a date with a bro.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 02:59 PM
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Kinda like girls who don't dress sexy for men? Whatever though, do you homie. I used to rock suits and shit too.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 05:55 PM
2

I have faith, I manage it at 29. It's the anti-pedestal. You say you wear "gators and the expensive jeans/shirt combo calculated to impress". You're already trying to impress her before you even show (and she sure as hell isn't trying to impress you). Think of your date attire in terms of red pill/blue pill dichotomy..
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 03:38 PM
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A nice ass in yoga pants is hot. Showing up on a date in basketball shorts is solid game.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 03:26 AM
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You calibrate your game based on their attitude, their perceived value, not their attractiveness (though one is a decent proxy for the other). But yes, "treat em all the same" is a bit of an oversimplification.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 01:33 AM
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One thing conspicuously missing from the answers is your attitude in foreign countries is often far more outcome independent due to the fact that you're leaving forever at some point. There's no social repercussions to your actions and you probably give less of a fuck.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 12:51 AM
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This is untrue. I've gotten tons of pussy due to being funny. Norm McDonald is just not funny in an attractive way. Think Russell Brand vs. Louis CK.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 08:42 PM
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she's merely playing a game men created for her, with the tools she needs to compete: beauty and youth Men didn't create it, millions of years of evolution and natural selection did. Love how stupid people think men just invented this shit and forced everyone into it.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 08:12 PM
4

And why are you spending your birthday driving to one guys house to "hang out" for the entire weekend? Don't you have friends? Maybe you should be less needy and more independent and he wouldn't take your presence for granted. Get some girl game.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 03:53 AM
2

For someone who's supposedly read up on both TRP and TBP, you seem to understand neither. While it's true your dude's behaviour is far from "beta", for lack of a better word, mainly because he places his own happiness above yours, while a supplicating man would do the opposite, it's not necessary to be a total dick to get girls, nor does TRP specifically advocate that. I'm dominant, aggressive, confident, while still being kind, and I give women the best relationships of their lives. Your dude i…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 03:50 AM
1

The fuck you paying her back money for? Did she give you a loan? Calling her a john made me lol.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:09 PM
1

Listen, you can disregard the tattoo criticism. This sub is socially conservative and judgemental by its nature. Ignore that, especially because tattoos are permanent, but take into account some of the other feedback. I have tattoos and find women with tattoos very sexy.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 05:49 AM
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"I like my girlfriends without pants" Or the always excellent "shut up"
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 04:47 AM
1

What question?
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 04:42 AM
1

Yes but it indicates your mentality with women. Lotta guys think that way. It would help you to stop thinking in terms of what's acceptable and what's not, and start thinking in terms of what you want to do. It's perfectly fine to "call her out", but don't get emotional or invested in it in any way. Be calm and honest if you think her behaviour is lame.
/r/seduction17/02/14 04:14 AM
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Sorry, stupid PUA term. Basically seeing how she is responding and tailoring your game accordingly. If you're too much of an asshole dial it back. Trying to predict in advance isn't possible.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 02:52 AM
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There's no way to predict how to run game on a specific chick. That's what calibration is for.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 02:42 AM
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It's very tough if they truly know you as an "incredible beta".
/r/seduction16/02/14 11:45 PM
0

What the fuck does allowed mean? Who do you think is making rules?
/r/seduction16/02/14 11:42 PM
3

Even more reason to be hyper-confident to overcome people's initial impression. Pity fucks aren't a thing. Also nobody has to fear you.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 06:18 AM
2

Binary scale for fucking is fine. But I don't game 7s the way I game 10s.
/r/AlreadyRed16/02/14 06:06 AM
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No. Here's the thing. TRP boils us down to our biological imperatives. The need for reproduction, and thus sex, is hard-wired in us, but we can rise above our biological imperatives. Clear examples are things likes vows of celibacy due to religion, or suicide bombers and kamikaze pilots. Clearly these don't help you get laid or reproduce. Like most things, the reality is more complicated. I think most things men do is motivated by ego. Your desire for money and power. Even game. If we just wante…
/r/AlreadyRed16/02/14 06:03 AM
1

Don't worry about other men. Social media is a tool. It can be used for or against you.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 05:49 AM
0

My favourite weeknd lyrics: I understand your body wants it I know your thoughts Oh you 'bout it, 'bout it You're a big girl and it's your world And I'ma let you do it how you wanna Girl ride wit it, ride wit it I know you know I know you wanna fuck with it Don't be shy wit it, I'll supply wit it I got you girl, oh I got it girl With your Louis V bag Tatts on your arms High-heel shoes make you six feet tall Everybody wants you, you can have them all But I got what you need Girl I got your bag, I…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 04:26 AM
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I think the dude is a genius. And I love the way he's done his career. Writes number 1 pop hits for superstar artists but on his own albums basically does his best Prince interpretation and like concept albums full of synth. Dude chooses to eschew mainstream success and do what the fuck he wants and still stacks paper writing pop tunes for others.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 04:21 AM
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Wayne was tight back when he was hungry. He murdered the first track on Carter II for five minutes straight with no hook. Carter II and III were on point. Then he sipped too much lean and burned out. I think Kanye's music is fucking genius, but it's not really rap. Rap in the 90s sense is over it's now a melding of genres. Trap, r&b, electro all mixing. I love some ignorant rap though lol. Chief Keef, King Louie. It's like comparing classic rock to indie rock. The Strokes aren't Zep and they nev…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 04:18 AM
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Abel Tesfaye (Weeknd) has the best understanding of what appeals to young party girls of any lyricist I've ever seen. Essentially all his songs are that they will never possess him and he doesn't want to possess them for more than one night but they can let loose sexually and be a whore for a night. Early 20s white girls love that nigga. If you don't need women they will want you, basically. The-Dream is bomb, though I wouldn't call him especially "red pill".
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 04:12 AM
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I hear ya. Metal is another energy level. The aggression in rap is more from the MC than the instrumentals.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 03:40 AM
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There's always a rap purist that's gotta come in and pine for the good old days. There's hella good rap being made these days. Dudes should listen to what they like. Ty Dolla isn't even rap just ratchet r&b but I posted it cause it's redpill as fuck.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 03:22 AM
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Those also qualify. Don't know what else you'd call hardcore gangster rap though. It's male bravado, violence, anger, masculinity, misogyny, and sex.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 03:20 AM
2

The vibe issue is just my guess given limited information. Don't take if as gospel. See if it makes sense and seems reasonable to you. Also, this is a bit controversial but if you have a female friend who can be honest with you and is self-aware they can shoot you straight sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 02:49 AM
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my reply was pretty much exactly as you suggested Great. The "sweetie" is there for a slight note of condescension for her presumption that you want to settle down with her. You could even take it farther and say something like "That's rather presumptuous of you. Don't worry, I'm not looking for anything serious with you". I will also work on polarizing. By that you are referring to push/pull? Push/pull is one example, yes. In more of a broad sense, polarizing in the sense of something people ei…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 02:30 AM
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Do you fuck these girls you're dating? My guess, with limited information, is that you're not exciting/polarizing enough as a man. You have a lot of on paper value but may be a bit dull. Your response to that message should be "don't worry sweetie, I have zero interest in anything serious". Going forward, you should be the one preemptively saying you don't want something serious. The "I don't want you think I'm tricking you part" means you're giving off the impression you're a dude who wants to …
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 02:15 AM
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Rap is the shit. Men need aggressive music. A dude told me once hip hop culture is just hypergamy run wild. Made perfect sense. Edit: not really rap but dudes should fuck with Ty Dolla $ign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC2ZgCEaLWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6J80Gi1FRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmF1iIiIvtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gj_uOmSvYA
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 02:03 AM
0

Yes.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 07:56 PM
1

That's cool, nice job.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 09:15 PM
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Why am I sharing this. Cause I want to brag I got a girl's number let me call it hypergamy.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 08:42 PM
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My dad is a strange mix. And, surprise, surprise, so am I. Intelligent, dominant, hard working, tremendously wealthy, not afraid to stand up for himself, very controlling in his relationships with women (too much), prone to anger (too much). However, he also suffers from low self-esteem, neediness, is a slave to his emotions, and has a victim mentality. People are not so easily divided into the camps TRP would like to divide them into.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 05:24 PM
8

It was once a controversial truth that the earth was not the center of the universe.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 05:18 PM
1

I think if it was he would have said so.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 05:03 PM
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So you didn't answer my question if it was a nude, but I'm assuming it wasn't since if it was you would have said so. Here's my opinion, and where I break with most of the advice in this thread: no other woman you date will EVER be any different. You wanna next her and find another one she will still be talking to five guys on the side. That's just what women do. If she cheated on you, sure, dump the bitch, but understanding and embracing what women are like from the jump will serve you far bett…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 05:03 PM
1

What's a flirty pic, like a nude?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 03:13 PM
1

Sure. I'm only speaking to the cultures I'm familiar with.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 06:50 AM
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The men who enter those fields are omega losers before they enter. They don't lose their skills due to lack of socializing.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 06:07 AM
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Of course I fucking read the fucking question. Fucking.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 04:07 AM
-7

You'd do well to follow your own advice, I don't give a shit.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 04:01 AM
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He was contrasting his own culture with ours and saying he was "truly confused" that they're different. I don't know how one can think TRP is genetic. Exercising the slightest bit of critical thinking would make it fairly obvious it's cultural.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 03:47 AM
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Fair enough. I think there's a large number of contributing factors, not any one cause. Firstly, the "West" - America and Canada, where it's the same - are both very young countries. Without a firm, long standing cultural history in place. They came of age relatively recently. Secondly, women working during the war. Thirdly, there's a strong belief in opportunity. It's hard to have an idea like the "American Dream", and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and only apply it to a subset o…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 03:39 AM
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You can't understand that different countries have different cultures?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 03:08 AM
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This is not a FR it's bragging with no value provided.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/14 03:56 PM
10

Never join a group of other men on a date unless you can firmly handle them and be the leader of the group/hold your frame. You should have decided - with no deliberation, and no input from her - whether or not the two of you are going. When she mentions you "should go home" you should tell her to shut the fuck up. You became an orbiter. You were in a situation you couldn't handle. It's ok, it happens. Ultimate takeaway: you lead, never follow. Shoutout Toronto! Used to live there, coming home s…
/r/seduction05/02/14 03:34 AM
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I'd say our need to fuck strange is less than optimal.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 05:40 PM
2

Cool story. How old are you?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 05:13 PM
-1

Well you were fat. Your anecdotal insight isn't that valuable. Everyone knows fit >>> fat. I find being attractive and fit is beneficial to a point, after which it has dimishing returns.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 05:47 AM
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You're overestimating the importance of muscles. Don't wait till things are "right", they will never be.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/14 06:02 PM
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Well it doesn't sound like you actually did anything with the girl in question. Did you expect her to isolate you and jump on your dick?
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 10:29 PM
2

The laws of attraction aren't really laws more like guidelines. There are no LAWS to female attraction I'm aware of (ie. Apply to all women all the time). Betas still get laid. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 10:27 PM
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Aka dating.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/14 09:57 PM
0

Personally I think your response was too soft. Firstly why did you even say anything? They didn't ask you to buy them drinks. Just say sure join us. If they ask, you can just say "no". That's usually what I do.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:03 PM
2

It's your fault. You should have went to the friend directly instead of using her as a gatekeeper. No wonder she didn't want to fuck you. No offense.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 05:24 PM
2

Do you have all those things?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 02:54 AM
24

Most women (and beta men) believe a woman's pussy is a gift. It's special, precious etc.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 12:34 AM
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You're perpetuating low sexual standards for women in relationships. You should expect more from your partner. My ex sucked my dick every time we fucked for 6 years.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 10:52 PM
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Worst comment: End that shit. Just end it. He sounds like a dick. Appreciate your blowjobs. Rule #1 they are a gift, which you should be happy to receive regardless of quality.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 10:33 PM
5

No I'm not. But thanks for the condescension.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 06:44 PM
1

I expect better than some fool chasing me down a thread over absolutely nothing. Again with the name calling. Lighten up, it's okay if you're wrong. It happens to the best of us. It's not "absolutely nothing", you answered a direct question with factually incorrect information, so I corrected you. It's not personal, so you don't have to take it that way. And I'm not incorrect, Patrice has an open relationship with a slut above, and I said you don't commit to them, and you say "I guess it depends…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 05:41 PM
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He says it in the battle with Dr. Z when he criticizes her entire ethos. Ah yes. I sent you that link. He doesn't say anything regarding LTR. If you are able to replicate the theories practiced here on the average woman, then your anecdotes and this become statistics in themselves, whether or not the CBS did a study for you. You believe your own personal, anecdotal life experience represents statistical significance? This is basically hamstering. I expect better from this sub. I never once talke…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 05:22 PM
2

We talk about averages and statistics here. No, usually we simply talk theory with anecdotal examples. Rarely do I see any averages and statistics to back up the claims. Much like the claims you're making now. Patrice will still tell you to steer clear of relationships with these types of women Where are you getting this? I've listened to literally every recorded word Patrice O'Neal has spoken and never heard that. If anything I'd say he said ALL relationships with women "are often unhealthy rel…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 05:11 PM
4

True. He referred to her as his "wife" though, they were together for 11 years or something, and she now manages his estate. Most certainly a LTR.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 04:55 PM
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So what? Why are you changing the subject? You said he doesn't believe sluts are wifey material. You're wrong. You're saying blatant falsehoods about the guy to support TRP theory on relationships. If it's not deliberate, and you simply don't know, you should stop. "Designed" doesn't mean shit. He was a swinger with his gf, he watched her fuck other men. Edit: not his wife, lt gf
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 04:41 PM
2

Watching redpill dudes hamster is priceless.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 04:28 PM
3

Yes he is. His wife was a "ho". He talked at length about it.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 04:26 PM
4

Link?
/r/TheRedPill26/01/14 01:58 AM
2

This is literally the greatest Patrice battle of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW9ySaJO4K4
/r/TheRedPill22/01/14 04:02 PM
1

Really? You might want to look into a whole field of research that is separated twin behavioral studies. And then go look up the "liberal gene" (I swear DNA be trollin that the liberal gene was discovered first). Thanks, I'll check it out. Nope, but I read the summary enough to see that he actually thinks altruism exists, which means he's wrong. I already showed you examples of the existence of altruism. You responded with a sarcastic dismissal. You should read it, you'd probably enjoy it. Not a…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:09 PM
1

But we aren't driven purely by our instincts. That's my point. We have critical thinking ability to overcome our emotions and instincts.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:07 PM
1

Source?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:05 PM
1

Who said this imaginary woman asked them to? She's a slut right, why would she be looking for commitment?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:05 PM
1

I don't know if I'd have an exclusive LTR with anyone, so it's hard to answer, but sure I don't care.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:04 PM
1

It's driven by ego I think. You want to conquer something.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:04 PM
1

Absolutely, but TRP seems to encourage and embrace it rather than attempt to move beyond it.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:03 PM
1

Yes, I understand the simplistic explanation. I have an innate revulsion to heights too because they're dangerous and I might die. I choose to ignore it and still fly because I recognize intellectually it's very safe.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:03 PM
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Oh wow, exceptions exist! That must invalidate the overall rule! Sarcasm, nice. It's not a rule. Any reputable scientist will tell you we aren't governed by our DNA. It plays a critical role of course, but an attempt to explain human behaviour exclusively by biological imperatives will always fail. That's why the explanation in this post is so easily discredited. Have you read Richard Dawkins discussions on altruism in The Selfish Gene? Look at society, culture. We have evolved socially acceptab…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 08:00 AM
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We'd like to think not, but software still runs on hardware. I wouldn't like to think not, but it's plainly obvious. Kamikaze pilots, Suicide bombers, Men of the cloth taking a vow of celibacy, homosexuals, all of these run counter to the biological imperative of reproduction. Correct. It indicates poor ability to keep high-quality mates around. Maybe. So what though?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:49 AM
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She might not be able to distinguish between the varying degrees of alpha, though. She doesn't compound her biology with consideration of consequences and an evaluation of just how much value there is. I don't know what this means or why it matters. We're starting to use "climb the cock tower" now, btw. Heh. Nice.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:45 AM
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I break with TRP because I don't have a problem with sluts. I've moved beyond my biological imperative, I have no interest in children, so I see little benefit to monogamy or chastity. My life is devoted to my own pleasure, so I love sluts and like a woman who isn't gonna put me through a bunch of bullshit to get pussy. This will get me downvoted to oblivion, as it always does here, but I believe jealousy and anti-slut feelings stem largely from men's ego more than any biological imperative. I d…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:42 AM
1

Of course, but what I'm saying is the evolutionary reasons to hold women to the "slut" standard don't really fly in the face of pregnancy being a remote chance, and not a main driver for sex. In addition, we as human beings are not simply slaves to the biological imperative of our reproductive DNA. This argument, which is incredibly old, is also incredibly simplistic. It's also contradictory with the rest of TRP. If a woman is uncontrollably attracted to "alpha" males, and rides the "cock carous…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:20 AM
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Wouldn't the invention of birth control nullify the entire first paragraph of women? Also what if a woman was a slut with tons of top-tier alpha males?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 06:25 AM
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I already do all those things. And earn a six figure salary. It seems you're implying he got $60K spare cash just by saving his income. If he told you exactly what he did he'd kind of be an idiot. Magicians don't reveal their tricks. Not at all. A tenet of entrepreneurship is there's not a finite amount of value in the world, but rather value is created. Not sure why you're looking at it as a zero sum game.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:08 PM
1

I think this may be even more vague. Do you have a practical and specific example, beyond generic business advice?
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:05 PM
1

I have a high paying job, no car, and I don't drink, nor eat out. I have no debt. Saving 60K would take a long time though.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:03 PM
1

Kinda glossed over how you made $60k spare cash..
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 04:36 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with asking if a girl has a boyfriend. I do it all the time, and it can easily come from a non-needy place. It's a direct way to make your intentions clear and filter girls who are going to either a) not be down or b) be more trouble than they're worth. Don't follow the logic here at all.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:09 AM
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Sounds like the article is saying the opposite of your title.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 05:57 PM
3

Do you really think there's no variation in libido between people? I'm a man with a medium libido.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 02:36 AM
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Software engineer. I used to think it was the shit. Now I'd call it a 7 at best. Stacking cash but that's about the only attractive element to it.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:44 AM
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There's no clear definition of "alpha" that I've seen on this subreddit, it seems to be just alpha = good behaviour, beta = bad behaviour, but I would say if you define it as money, status, and power farming fulfills only one of those (which you inherited). Not knocking your career it sounds fantastic but I'm not sure your characterization is accurate.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:41 AM
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Here's the thing though. Why should I have any loyalty to my gender? Firstly, y'all are my competition. I don't see any benefit in the short term. In the long term you could argue not being a feminist can benefit men down the line, but just like Dawkins pointed out in The Selfish Gene, drawing lines along gender lines within our species is pretty arbitrary. Why not benefit the species as a whole, or the kingdom or phylum? Why do you personally care about the long term outcome for men?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 05:08 AM
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Fair. Seems reasonable. I don't plan on getting married, so I don't care if a relationship ends. I want my relationships to end, I don't plan on growing old with one woman.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 07:38 AM
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So Patrice would rather marry a woman who has fucked 100 guys, who most likely cheated on multiple partners, probably had STDs at some point, then marry a woman who realized there's more to being a woman than banging every guy that pays attention to her? This is what's known as a false dichotomy. Hell, if I knew 100% for certain that a slut who loved nothing more than having sex would not cheat on me than I would date her. But that is in no way reality. It's idealistic and anyone with common sen…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 07:31 AM
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Got some links? I haven't seen those. I'd also wonder about correlation vs. causation. My experience with women, again echoing Patrice's view but it's spot on, is that they're very loyal when you possess their mind. I'm not too concerned with unfaithfulness. Losing their mind by regressing to "beta" behaviour when you get comfortable is the larger concern.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 06:37 AM
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I differ from TRP majority opinion on this one. I subscribe to Patrice O'Neal's view: it doesn't fucking matter. This concern is some young man shit (I was obsessed with lay count of women when I was young). Really, what difference does it make? I'd rather ho a girl down than ho her up, as Patrice put it. I want a slut. And by the way, there's no definition, so this thread is pointless. It's just whatever a dude arbitrarily decides.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 06:26 AM
1

?
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:53 AM
12

Firstly, lose the trickery lead up to asking them out and just approach directly like a confident man.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:08 AM
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I don't follow.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:06 AM
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His approach lacks confidence, is indirect, weak shaky delivery.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:06 AM
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I think the lesson is even a lamborghini won't save a pussy.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 01:47 AM
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You're the one who's unclear. "Civility" is a social construct, and has absolutely nothing to do with morality. The definition of civility varies from place to place (NYC vs Florida). Society's expectations are not obligations, because I didn't opt into them nor agree to them.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:48 PM
1

I'll take you up on that when I'm less hungover.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:43 PM
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It does, but you're right it's not a critical part of the post, just a side discussion.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:33 PM
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Why?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:26 PM
1

Are you confusing amoral and immoral? How can anything be more directly related to SS than cheating? It's literally a strategy to have sex. I'm not condoning it, just thought that distinction was interesting.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:26 PM
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It wasn't explicitly stated cheating is "wrong" but it was implied. My point is if sexual strategy is amoral, and exists outside of the construct of morality, cheating can't be any more wrong than anything else, and is simply, as he clarified, a poor sexual strategy (arguably).
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:24 PM
3

That's fair.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:20 PM
1

It's not at all. Being impolite means you're "bad"?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:19 PM
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So being uncivil is immoral, in your world?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:52 PM
0

If sexual strategy is amoral how can cheating be wrong?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:51 PM
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Obligation: an act or course of action to which a person is morally or legally bound; a duty or commitment. By which of those am I obligated to be civil?
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:43 PM
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I'm not sure why this is considered great. He comes off really negatively. Patrice O'Neal with no charm, wit, or personality.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:25 PM
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I agree with you that he came off as a try-hard loser, but no one has an obligation to be civil.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 10:25 PM
1

Make the date when you're getting the number.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 02:35 AM
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How does what the guy said contradict your statement that "nobody deserves anything?" Because he thinks she is undeserving of a "good" man (as defined by him) because she's had a bunch of sex before him. I should reword, no one is deserving nor undeserving. They just are. Deserve is a concept tied to the idea of fairness, of which there is none. The delight TRP men take in anticipating or seeing women hit the "wall" bolsters my theory of craving what they view as justice. They want sluts to pay …
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 10:07 PM
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Do you have examples of this in real life? Ryan Gosling is a multi-millionaire movie star who happens to be beautiful. He doesn't have to talk. I'd say there's no one way. Counter examples, russel brand never shuts up very attractive. I get most girls when I get a motor mouth going.
/r/seduction13/12/13 05:21 PM
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First, read the sidebar. POSTS ASKING HOW TO GET A SPECIFIC GIRL WILL BE DELETED. That being said, until this gets deleted I'll give you some advice. First, he's not exactly like you. Cause he's fucking her and you're texting her every day. Stop doing that shit. Why are you accepting less than what you want? You've already lost probably, but you seduce her by reading game material and applying it. Being a confident, assertive man and making a move on a girl you want.
/r/seduction13/12/13 04:34 PM
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Listen to all 13 episodes of The Black Philip Show by Patrice O'Neal. Why has this woman allowed you to become pathetic? If she left what would you miss? Other than sex. Everything you've described about her is physical/sexual. I've gotten over dimes. Once they're gone everything is the same. Do you want to leave her, or gain your power back in the relationship? Either way, the answer is the same, she needs to know you can leave her and be just fine with it. Willingness to walk away. Generally, …
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 01:43 AM
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n at this point and says, "Hey, I'm giving you the cold shoulder because this is a networking event for me. Let's get in touch later though." This meant she wanted to fuck after the party.
/r/seduction12/12/13 12:07 AM
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I prefer day game. Gets to the point faster, no distractions, no competition, easier to hook girls. Also as you get older you'll find the chicks still in the bar scene regularly are going down in quality. Bad bitches at yoga and stuff.
/r/seduction11/12/13 07:26 PM
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It's pretty damn good. How old are you? You don't need a long dating session just cause you meet chicks outside the club. But you'll generally find a higher quality woman. Also you need to develop normal game. What if you meet a bad bitch on the street, you gonna carry a flask around?
/r/seduction11/12/13 06:26 PM
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That's what I mean. It should be who he is. But right now it's just something he does.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:57 PM
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You use alcohol as a crutch to become "confident". Quit drinking. You feel you have to be "in state". Game isn't who you are, it's something you do. Keep doing it and it will become who you are. You're probably not as charismatic as you think you are, given you're black out drunk, they're just drunk and so are you.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:06 PM
1

lol you're open to feedback, that's good. Read, listen, learn and you'll get there.
/r/seduction11/12/13 06:09 AM
1

If you can get your hands on the book Models by Mark Manson that would be a good place to start.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:47 AM
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No. You go on a date because there is attraction and you want to build it. While women may say yes if they're neutral towards you, it's not that common. Generally, yes. She doesn't have to show a sign of attraction, but you can make her attracted before you ask her out. By being cool, confident, direct etc. Even the way you ask her out can make her attracted to you, but in your case you haven't done anything to pique her interest in you. Some friendly conversation, and an unconfident IM coffee r…
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:46 AM
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Okay. If this girl actually goes out with you, and I don't expect she will, this is generally what women are attracted to. Confidence. This is by far the most important trait a man can have. Confidence and belief in himself in all things. Not arrogance, not cockiness, but confidence. He knows he can do what he needs to do. He doesn't need to tell anyone, he just knows. He knows women want to date him. Telling the woman "No is ok too" was indicative of poor confidence. Self-control. AKA non-needi…
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:41 AM
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I mean she isn't interested in you romantically yet. She isn't attracted to you sexually, emotionally, or otherwise. You are just some guy at her office. A woman should have some attraction to you before you ask her out.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:33 AM
1

I'm not saying don't. I'm just saying it may create an awkward situation if you're not experienced in approaching women. Have you been on dates before?
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:32 AM
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LOL. Please come back and comment on this when you approach your first woman.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:31 AM
1

By game I mean attempt to romance.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:27 AM
1

You didn't establish any attraction before asking her out. She said yes out of politeness. Also, you shouldn't game girls at work as a beginner.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:22 AM
0

She's gonna flake.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:20 AM
1

Can you post the conversation?
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:15 AM
1

How did you ask her? In person?
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:11 AM
1

How many? Don't answer that question when chicks ask.
/r/seduction11/12/13 05:07 AM
2

Why's it bother you?
/r/TheRedPill11/12/13 03:57 AM
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YOU control the frame. Not her. You decide what kind of interaction you want and take it there. Also, a date with a girl with no interest in romance is friends. If you asked her out on a date with romantic intention and she can't agree to that tell her you'll have to politely decline, because it would be dishonest of you to pretend you are interested in friendship when you're not. She will appreciate it.
/r/seduction01/12/13 03:38 PM
2

More attractive, less open and approachable.
/r/seduction27/11/13 04:50 PM
1

Sounds like you're letting other people's expectations dictate what you should be doing with your life. No wonder you're unhappy.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/13 06:12 PM
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She will flake on him. Both of your approaches are two opposite extremes. The right one is in the middle.
/r/seduction21/11/13 07:18 PM
1

Charisma isn't inate. Read The Charisma Myth. Being "beta" isn't really that bad. You don't have to be the leader of every male group in order to have sex, this isn't the animal kingdom. It sounds like you're taking these terms too literally. What the fuck does beta parents mean? Years of practice: you've got plenty of those ahead of you.
/r/seduction08/11/13 12:10 AM
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I wake up at 6:45AM. Earlier than 6:30 I find it unsustainable. Kinda kills your social life.
/r/seduction30/10/13 10:31 PM
3

So you wake up at 5:30?
/r/seduction30/10/13 07:57 PM
3

How did you end up assisting on the boot camp? I'd be interested in doing that.
/r/seduction29/10/13 03:09 PM
1

Those are just pickup buzz phrases. The vast majority of women will not be assertive enough to call you. It will also make you look passive and unassertive. You even say yourself you do it cause you don't want to "worry about when you should msg her/what you should say, etc.". How many girls have you given your number to who called you?
/r/seduction26/10/13 04:15 PM
4

Don't do this.
/r/seduction25/10/13 11:50 PM
1

Downvoted to oblivion. No wonder dudes here don't get laid. The blind leading the blind.
/r/seduction23/10/13 07:58 PM
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This is the stupidest shit I've read in a long time. Obviously written by a loser.
/r/seduction23/10/13 03:29 PM
1

Do you mean do I literally run a prostitution ring, or are you using pimp colloquially to ask if I have sex with a lot of women? If the former, no. If the latter, better than average but not crazy.
/r/seduction22/10/13 10:24 PM
1

I'll check them out. I'll say anything to a chick, down to try some crazy shit.
/r/seduction22/10/13 09:29 PM
1

My pics are good. My text is lame for sure. I'd certainly consider online coaching if the price is reasonable! I read your comments regarding crazy sexual escalation, was more meaning how do you get to that point? I assume you don't open a woman by escalating sexually aggressively, or do you?
/r/seduction22/10/13 08:44 PM
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I do pretty well in real life, but have ZERO luck online. Wanna help me craft a good profile? I've experimented with lots of profiles. :) What's the number one rule of pickup? How do you do "crazy sexual escalation"? Can you give an example of approach and the escalation you're talking about? Is this environment specific (ie. nightclubs)?
/r/seduction22/10/13 08:18 PM
0

What do you mean?
/r/seduction22/10/13 07:11 PM
2

For example if he tries to focus attention on the girl, I'd get side by side with him, and put a hand on his shoulder, and use my other hand to wave to the crowd at DP. Comment on all these beautiful women and ask him if he has had any luck meeting women today, and then I'd ask his approach and give him some pointers. That's some next level shit. Pretty awesome. To be honest my mentality is usually "if she wants to go with another guy, let her" but that's definitely cost me women.
/r/seduction22/10/13 07:10 PM
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It is good to not get jealous, however I think you should take a much more active role of assessing this guy, asserting dominance and being protective of your group. You can do this in a non-needy way. You're absolutely right, this is a weakness I have. I err too much on the side of non-needy, it can come across as apathetic. Good opportunity to go back up to check on her to isolate for makeout / figuring out logistics??? Not sure Yes, I did this actually. Thanks for the feedback! Can you elabor…
/r/seduction22/10/13 04:03 AM
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The point of my post, which was clearly articulated, isn't that the books he posted are bad. They're just not "required reading" for everyone. Not everyone has the nice guy problem, for example. There's no shortage of reading recommendations on Seddit. My list will suffer from the same shortcoming as his, it's what helped me. If he offered more detailed reviews of WHO THIS BOOK IS FOR instead of saying everyone should read every one, I'd be totally on board.
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:18 AM
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I've gotta disagree, I've read all 3 of those books and got almost nothing from 2 of them. Models was fantastic, the other two didn't address my problems. You can't make a reading list for 150,000 seddit readers because of what helped you.
/r/seduction27/09/13 02:25 PM
2

Because you can't perform under pressure.
/r/seduction26/09/13 08:42 PM
5

You're describing basically the female equivalent of the "nice guy" a woman would describe as husband material. Responsible, successful, reliable, generous etc. You want to add a bit more of the bad bitch guys want to fuck. Exciting, sexy, carefree, unattainable, confident. Especially at 21. Who, in a celeb we'd all know is that girl to you? Channel more of her.
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:31 PM
2

Zzzzzzzz. How old are you?
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:25 PM
2

I mean that's if you want to be the fantasy. The problem with dating the carefree unattainable girl is what do you once you've attained her? How would you describe yourself now?
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:19 PM
1

And if you're crafting your appearance on what women like that speaks volumes about your personality. What's more attractive is a man who does what he wants without worrying if other people will accept his choices.
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:07 PM
1

Beards are very much in. Look at celebs, sports stars, musicians. Even open a magazine and see the number of models with beards, which would NEVER occur in a mainstream magazine like GQ. Hell even Gillette for the first time EVER has featured men with facial hair in print ads (Andre 3000). If there's ever been a time to grow one its now.
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:06 PM
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If your bf runs off when a girl sends him a mildly flirtatious text that says more about him than you. That being said, girl game is kinda hard to describe. Being beautiful is a part of it. It's an image. A fantasy. Men tend to like women who are fun, vivacious, emotionally expressive, carefree but unattainable. We can't really tell you how to craft your entire persona. Maybe watch some movies with "that girl" and see what characteristics her behaviour telegraphs.
/r/seduction26/09/13 04:58 PM
2

I'd be curious to know if you're super handsome or something. I rarely have girls initiate making out with me from casual conversation.
/r/seduction26/09/13 02:16 AM
2

Have you seen the tango scene with Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman?
/r/seduction25/09/13 08:18 PM
1

You can make your legs walk and your mouth move, yes? Why hasn't a friend just physically pushed you into some random girl?
/r/seduction23/09/13 07:38 PM
1

I'm with you buddy. I've wasted many a day hungover, I feel depressed, guilty. I quit for two months, then slipped. I'm quitting again today. However, your math skills aren't great, stick to writing :)
/r/seduction23/09/13 12:20 AM
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What is your concern exactly? If you don't want to come off insincere don't be insincere. If you live your life based on avoiding girls "negative reactions" you're gonna have a bad time.
/r/seduction22/09/13 10:30 PM
2

She didn't have to tell you.
/r/seduction22/09/13 10:25 PM
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You've actually left out another significant benefit. In my experience a large percentage of women - the majority - will find your choice not to use alcohol as an immense positive trait. It shows self-control, confidence, and is often an indicator of a pursuit of higher interests. You should highlight it, rather than act like you're drinking. Also, your ABV comparison is incorrect. Alcohol by VOLUME means you have to take into account volume. A glass of wine is < 200 ml, a beer is 350 ml. A stan…
/r/seduction22/09/13 08:34 PM
1

I could have written this post myself.
/r/seduction22/09/13 04:56 PM
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/r/seduction19/09/13 03:53 AM
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/r/sex
/r/seduction14/09/13 11:41 PM
1

Try putting your beliefs to the test, the results can be rewarding and liberating. For example you can approach anytime even if you're dressed bummy, you don't need your pickup uniform on. This is something most men don't get. Women like MEN. They like men the same way we like women. We like what's under the clothes, we like sexy women in tshirts, pajamas, our jeans and dress shirts, whatever. The messy girl look is hot cause she looks like a hot mess who just got fucked. Girls are the same way.…
/r/seduction13/09/13 09:20 PM
1

Neither am I. It's just a funny statement. It's easier to pick up all girls if you are hot. I think you overestimate the role "looks" play in seduction, and by looks I mean clothes and grooming. I agree being hot makes seduction way easier. I question if clothes make you hot. I used to wear $1,500 suits and make sure I was impeccably groomed at all times. Now I wear a beard and an oversized t. Do you judge girls if they're not in a dress and heels with their hair done right? Some of the hottest …
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:55 PM
1

Can't argue with that. It's much easier to pick up ugly girls if you look hot too.
/r/seduction13/09/13 05:20 PM
1

You are. if you want girls that look hot, you have to look hot as well
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:51 PM
1

I'm not saying don't dress well, do so if you want to. It will get you some more attention from women, and maybe a warmer reception, and that's about it. From a guy who has picked up looking like I stepped out of GQ, and in dirty sweats and a t. It's an attention grabber, but it's neither necessary nor sufficient. The author seems to believe it's necessary (with "exceptions"). The entire premise of this post, beyond basic hygiene as I pointed out, is essentially that you should dress well for wo…
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:59 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:13 AM
0

ITT: limiting beliefs and basic hygiene.
/r/seduction13/09/13 01:23 AM
1

No worries. PM me your number if you want to be added to the groupme.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:29 PM
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/r/bayareaseddit
/r/seduction11/09/13 04:38 PM
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This is pretty well established, it's the basis of the HB scale. Her attractiveness is rather irrelevant, her perceived social value is what matters. More teasing, disqualification, "douchebag game" for girls who think they are hot shit. Also more explicit sexual come-ons, for me at least. I don't tell pretty girls they are smart, I tell them their ass looks great in that dress.
/r/seduction06/09/13 09:13 PM
3

Arrogant, moralist, white-knighting, sexist, bullshit.
/r/seduction06/09/13 08:09 PM
1

I mean I guess you could argue "Hi" is a canned opener, which is what I generally use.
/r/seduction06/09/13 06:15 PM
1

If you use exclusively canned routines you don't have game. You're a robot. You're an actor.
/r/seduction06/09/13 02:26 PM
1

It's the same as guys who tell you to text a girl who flakes on a date later that night with what an awesome night she missed out on. If it was so awesome, you wouldn't be texting her. I can't really explain why it's so bad, but it's bad. Try it, you'll see what kind of reaction you get. It won't be good.
/r/seduction04/09/13 05:12 AM
7

This screams insecurity and makes no sense, she's gonna miss out on what, you having sex with yourself?
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:17 PM
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Amazing how all the comments on a goddamn pua forum can be so misinformed. "Nice guy" doesn't simply refer to a man who is nice. It refers to a spineless, people-pleasing, unassertive man who has no sense of self but rather acts as a mirror to a woman (ie. agrees with everything she says, a "yes man") in the hopes that will get him some pussy.
/r/seduction02/09/13 05:32 PM
1

How do you define "best"? Creates the most attraction in the shortest amount of time? Piques the most interest? I've never used any of these, but instinctually I find them to be "try hard" and poorly socially calibrated. You "think" they are the best, or you know from personal experience they are the best? I have had tremendous success with qualifying openers, though less silly than these. The "you're beautiful, but so are a lot of girls, are you more than a pretty face?" has worked to get girls…
/r/seduction02/09/13 04:25 AM
1

He didn't have an ethical dilemma. He was scared and rationalizing it as "I'm ethical" because that's easier on him than "I'm scared". Self-protection at its finest.
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:31 AM
1

You've discussed a number of approach styles, but not direct. How do you feel about direct approaches? I like to get to the point. I generally tell girls I think they are "fucking gorgeous", or open with "Hi. I'm here to hit on you" or something. Sometimes I get sexual right off the bat (you have amazing breasts). I find the reception to be good, but probably worse in a club environment than day game. Girls seem to have a guard up in night environments, or they assume you're drunk (I'm sober). W…
/r/seduction22/07/13 11:03 PM
1

You should do an AMA. I have a few questions I'd like to ask. I'm sure others do too.
/r/seduction22/07/13 10:16 PM
6

I've done it a few times. Had a variety of responses. From "no", to "you shouldn't ask girls that", to "yes, but not yet". Always been drunk though, gonna try it now that I'm sober. The purpose of it isn't so much to get her to say "yes" right away, that will be rare. It demonstrates super clear intent and confidence. If she stays talking to you, it means her answer is maybe.
/r/seduction08/07/13 06:02 AM
2

Welcome to SF. Join the Bay Area groupme if you want a solid group of wings.
/r/seduction08/07/13 03:39 AM
1

That's a lot of words. If I can drill down to your central point, it seems to be that focusing on looks is counter productive, because you can't improve them significantly. Personally, I'm a believer in making everything your best. I think the vast majority of men can improve their looks enough to be considered "hot". Like everything in life, most people will tend to be mediocre. Put in the work. Get "shredded", not just not fat anymore. Buy tailored suits (or whatever you dig) and have impeccab…
/r/seduction03/07/13 05:42 PM
1

PM me your name/# I'll add you to the group.
/r/seduction03/07/13 04:16 PM
3

I created a groupme for Toronto, it's only got like 5 guys but it can grow. Join it and make shit happen.
/r/seduction03/07/13 02:31 PM
1

I'm not offended in the slightest. I think you're being deliberately obtuse or extremely bad at making your point. CALIBRATION I'm not asking for pick up words. I'm asking in this FR what would you specifically invalidate for a less physically attractive guy. In my mind, given the initial attraction phase was skipped because the guy was hot, everything else is valid after the girl is attracted to you.
/r/seduction03/07/13 02:28 PM
1

You could make an argument being delusional about your physical attractiveness helps your game, but I'm not convinced being aware of the fact that being beautiful makes game easier is a limiting belief. It's like being a short basketball player. You know there are guys more genetically inclined to play the game, who will need less "skill", and you train extra hard to make up for it. Everyone posting their anecdotes about "how I learned to stop worrying about looks and love myself" doesn't invali…
/r/seduction03/07/13 02:17 PM
1

here's a word you'll understand: calibration Don't be condescending. don't you think leaving information like that out is detrimental? I only care if they disclose what's relevant. She stated he was good looking, and I responded that this is good looking guy game. You then stated that Asians can't tell if white guys are good looking (seemingly contradicting my point, though that could be read either way, I'm not sure what your point was, hence I asked). As I stated, his game was still solid afte…
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:33 PM
1

None of that answered the question of How will you adjust your game given that information? It's fake, he's good looking, she gamed him. So what? get over your insecurities. You must be a troll.
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:27 PM
8

Sigh Ok, firstly, whether Asian women can "tell" if a white guy is good looking (wtf does that even mean?) is irrelevant. She said he was hot, so as far as she's concerned, he's good looking. Why would it matter whether he's conventionally attractive by "white guy" standards? Same goes for whether he's a "loser". If he's cool in his environment, then to her he's cool. Honestly, what is the point of your comment? Everyone saying it's a "critical" point that he's French in Asia, how is it critical…
/r/seduction02/07/13 04:52 PM
2

It changes nothing. None of what you're pointing out - assuming it's true, for argument's sake - is relevant.
/r/seduction02/07/13 04:24 PM
157

Prepare for AFC loser hate. You can tell who's getting laid by reading the comments here. Good FR. I know this game though, it's good looking guy game. Essentially it's be confident, listen, be polite, and don't do anything "wrong". He didn't really have to gain your interest, he just had to not lose it, no?
/r/seduction02/07/13 03:05 PM
3

Your mentality when approaching is "she's beautiful, I want to see what she's like". You don't need anything from her, she has piqued your curiousity and you want to find out more. That's all. Lose the mindset that you "need" her to add value to your life. You are seeing if it's possible that the two of you can mutually improve each other's lives through fun, good company, and maybe sex.
/r/seduction26/06/13 03:56 PM
1

If you're getting backlash your social skills need work. "Not taking shit" implies people can give you shit, and is an inherently negative mentality. Your managers and supervisors in grad school are supposed to be people you work with to reach mutually beneficial outcomes. Work on not having an adversarial worldview and being a value giver.
/r/seduction26/06/13 03:51 PM
1

Being Don Draper only works when you're Don Draper.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:29 PM
1

You're trying to cram pick up into the ultimatum game for some reason, and I have no idea why, because it's an awful analogy. Did you just read about it or something? The game doesn't work when there's 20 men trying to offer the woman to take the whole $100 and he'll keep $0.
/r/seduction18/06/13 02:17 PM
1

I'm trying out the sobriety thing currently. Haven't been out to a bar yet. Was thinking I'd switch to other environments, but maybe it's not necessary after reading this. Do you still go to clubs? They feel like such a drinking environment to me.
/r/seduction17/06/13 01:36 AM
8

It's not only a good place for it, it's the best place for it. There's nowhere more filled with positive energy and happiness than a wedding. It's socially acceptable to "open" anybody, and you'll receive absolutely no resistance when talking to strangers. I'm pretty sure I've hooked up at 80% of weddings and engagement parties I've been to. Sometimes you can even pull a bartender or cocktail waitress (true story).
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:48 AM
1

I'm not telling you to take it down, I don't care. Leave it up if you like. Just don't get upset if people don't agree with your methods. Where in my response did I say it doesn't work? While it may be successful, it's unnecessary and sends the message that you and your company alone aren't enough. I'm glad you get laid by dropping hundreds of dollars on first dates, but my experience, with classy educated women, allows me to know that's not necessary. Btw, I don't think it's "politically correc…
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:42 AM
1

You have misread the intention of this subreddit. Firstly, let me point out the irony of claiming to be a gentleman while engaging in paid deceit and elaborate social engineering to elicit emotional responses. You talk about how women "should" be treated but don't respect them as equals enough to be honest with them. Now, your first date with a woman appears to cost at least $300. You are wining and dining her and you barely know her. What message are you sending here? You barely know this woman…
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:25 AM
1

There's plenty of text game FRs. I have a (pretty unorthodox) one you can find in my history.
/r/seduction07/06/13 02:54 AM
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You're gonna go far in this game. Your handling of group dynamics is fantastic. Preemptively giving the friend your number and reassuring her is revolutionary. I'm significantly older and more experienced than you, so don't expect to learn much from these type of FRs. Happy to say I did from this one. Cheers. As to your weak points, always get the # just for the hell of it. You also seem like you don't know what to do once you make out so you just get her # and leave. Just go back to talking lik…
/r/seduction04/06/13 03:57 PM
4

Came to say this. Really elaborate way to start talking to a woman. "Hi" would work. Also I personally hate roundabout openers that hide your true intention. You could just open with the last part (you're the best looking girl here I want to make out with you) and skip all the bullshit pretense.
/r/seduction04/06/13 01:26 AM
3

Pretty good. But where do you live where bars can't make an old fashioned? Not a major city, I assume?
/r/seduction23/05/13 05:01 PM
0

The point is make sure you meet at least the minimum standard of attractiveness before you go out and spend a year trying to pick up women and get frustrated because you're facing rejection after rejection.
/r/seduction23/05/13 02:43 PM
1

Much higher than what? Men's? So what? I assure you I do. You receive a lower return on your investment as you continually increase a factor of production. In this case the factor of production is your looks, and the return is more sex/women. My argument is going from an 8 to a 9 will have better returns than going from a 9 to a 10, all else being equal. Are you sure you know what they are? Evolutionary theory is in about as much doubt as the theory of gravity. However, the theory doesn't need e…
/r/seduction23/05/13 02:38 PM
0

Even if this theory were "true", unless you knew a specific target's threshold, it doesn't help you. Nonsense. You simply need to know that you exceed the minimum threshold for the average woman you would like to woo. The variance isn't that large. Looks do not have diminishing returns above the minimum threshold. It goes up. Sure they do. Having a flat stomach, versus a six pack, versus a 12 pack won't allow you to get a significantly better woman as an adult. For a SNL perhaps, but long term i…
/r/seduction23/05/13 05:06 AM
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I disagree that most of the other factors suffer from diminishing returns. The example of Bill Gates is an extreme. To the level achievable by most men, wealth will continue to offer linear or even exponential returns. $100M >> $10M > $1M. The lifestyle you can lead (and thus expose others to) at each of those levels varies greatly. True confidence also offers great returns as it increases to the levels that can be achieved by most people - and it's not douchey to be absolutely confident. If any…
/r/seduction23/05/13 04:58 AM
2

You're correct. But intelligence is largely a function of genetics and upbringing. I don't think there's much you can do to increase your intelligence as an adult. You can become more knowledgeable, but that doesn't increase your raw intellect.
/r/seduction23/05/13 04:53 AM
1

Absolutely. I've been struggling to write a good answer. Initially I started to say that what's ethical is what is mutually beneficial. But there are varying degrees of benefit. Say a woman chooses to sleep with me, exclusively, she has now forgone the possibility of sleeping with any other men. Those men may be better mates for her, her life may have a greater net improvement by choosing one of them over me. They may be richer, more fun, or better able to improve her life. However, clearly it's…
/r/seduction21/05/13 07:06 AM
1

I agree that you don't explicitly state the fallacious conclusion, but the implication is there. I would argue seduction techniques are independent of the intention behind them. There are many men who take advantage of drunk women, insecure women, or any other weakness to get what they want, and they do so without the techniques discussed here. Creating a code of ethics and ensuring everyone who comes here internalizes them would be great, but it's rather impossible to accomplish in practice. Th…
/r/seduction21/05/13 06:06 AM
7

I'm not going to address specifics of your story, as they are largely irrelevant. You met a shitty guy. He employed seduction techniques, and therefore you've concluded seduction techniques are shitty. That's a logical fallacy, transitivity doesn't apply here. Ethics are independent of the techniques espoused in this community. There is one point I'd like to discuss. The use of the word manipulation has a negative connotation to it. When does something become manipulation? I'm a funny guy, I mak…
/r/seduction21/05/13 05:41 AM
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I'm not missing it, it's just poorly articulated. He is convolving two different types of security. Being secure vs. insecure in who you are is different than providing security to a woman, which is what OP is incorrectly attributing to "bad boys" - by which I believe he means commitment averse players - who would provide a thrill, but not much in the way of security.
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:12 PM
1

The scene may be filled with "pseudo bullshit", but the power of eye contact is well documented outside of it. Some excerpts from The Charisma Myth: Anthropologist Helen Fisher explains that when you stare intensely at someone, it can speed up their heart rate and send a hormone called phenylethylamine, or PEA, coursing through their bloodstream. PEA is the same hormone that produces the phenomenon we call love at first sight. In one study, complete strangers were asked to count the number of ti…
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:55 PM
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You just said the word secure a lot. How does a "bad boy" - one who sleeps with a lot of women, won't commit, and will have the mentality that the woman is replaceable - make a woman feel secure? Particularly when it comes to making sure her "gene is passed on"?
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:45 PM
1

Bay Area Seddit what up!
/r/seduction15/04/13 04:04 AM
35

This technique may well work, but I think it's predicated on an incorrect premise: that someone needs to be checking you out for you to go chat them up. Approach who you are interested in, not who's interested in you.
/r/seduction15/04/13 03:00 AM
6

I don't think it's out of line to tell Anne that you enjoyed talking to May and asking her to pass on your number or email, or if Anne would ask May if it's allright if Anne passes on her number to you. You're never going to see the girl again otherwise, the worst thing that happens is she says no.
/r/seduction14/04/13 07:16 AM
2

Tupelo - 1337 Grant Ave (between Vallejo St & Green St)
/r/seduction12/04/13 05:56 PM
2

Jesus my man does this poor girl have to come out and grab your dick? Yes, she wanted you to fuck her. when you were at her house and she suggested going to the bar you should have said you're tired let's just have drinks at her place just because she lives with her mom you can still have sex, you have a car she hangs out in the car on the fucking driveway with you waiting for you to make a move, bringing up random shit to keep talking to you she puts her lips on your neck Listen, don't look for…
/r/seduction10/04/13 03:04 AM
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That context is largely unnecessary. It creates bias, as you've stated. Your gender is only relevant if there are users asking for sex advice, and you can talk specifically about what feels good for you and turns you on. Even then, it only serves to increase your credibility as a speaker, not provide any necessary context. So you are partially responsible for the increased attention, positive and negative, being given to you due being a woman. Here you've included your age and gender, along with…
/r/seduction09/04/13 11:37 PM
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It's true, men here will give your opinion more value than others for some reason. However, you don't have to include the information that you're a woman on every reply you make. Being a woman doesn't give you any heightened insight into seduction.
/r/seduction09/04/13 04:47 PM
1

Haha nice! If it were me I would text and say "So it turns out AT&T has been sending my text messages into the ether" and then explain it and either make a joke about how you thought she just had terrible manners, or if you were direct that you demanded a refund because they almost cost you a date with a gorgeous woman.
/r/seduction08/04/13 03:49 AM
1

[M/28]. Yes, you can build attraction and sexualize via text. And it's not an age thing.
/r/seduction08/04/13 03:42 AM
2

I disagree. Firstly, when sending messages via iMessage you should see when it's delivered, and some girls even leave Read Receipts on so you know it's been read. If you texted more (for example to friends and family members) you would have discovered your phone wasn't setup right. I use texting for general conversation, getting to know girls, and sexualizing. You can text her and tell her that story, it's funny.
/r/seduction08/04/13 03:31 AM
2

Whoever has the stronger reality wins. You went into approval seeking mode (reintroducing yourself) and accepted the dynamic of your relationship the way she framed it. Make fun of her, call her jealous because she isn't getting her vitamin C along with her alcohol.
/r/seduction08/04/13 03:24 AM
3

Then why do you want to do this? That won't go away.
/r/seduction06/04/13 06:57 PM
24

Stick around, we need far more female FRs. Just start seducing! Also negs are bullshit, but what you did was just teasing, not a neg. Are you sure you're actually an introvert and don't just lack self-confidence? Many people feel they're introverted but only find social interaction draining because they suck at it and are anxious and not confident.
/r/seduction06/04/13 06:42 PM
3

I can't get over the fact that if someone were to approach a girl, and start flirting with them hard, they would be content and play along with it KNOWING that the only intention he has is to seduce them and get them in bed. What's wrong with that? Women like sex too.
/r/seduction06/04/13 06:18 PM
7

She supposed to refuse it when the dude brings it and hands it to her without her asking?
/r/seduction06/04/13 05:22 PM
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While this is technically a terrible "FR", because nothing happened and there was no seduction occurring anywhere, still helpful to hear how girls think. Your reaction to the guy buying you drinks was interesting, you respected him less. Why are you "not interested in meeting new guys"? Assuming you're single and an attractive, charming guy talked to you would you not engage? No feedback to offer cause you just hung out with some dudes all night.
/r/seduction06/04/13 05:19 PM
2

"No I'm not, you're just short" [shit eating grin]
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:43 PM
1

Those aren't conflicting ideas. Firstly, it's not that beautiful women aren't hit on. They are. Constantly. Your question was, are men intimidated by a woman's beauty and will that cause them not to approach. The answer is yes for a high percentage of men. However, the ones who aren't are hitting on all the beautiful women constantly. The reason exceptionally beautiful women are more difficult to get is not because they are more likely to have heard lines, which no man should use anyway, but bec…
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:31 PM
1

It didn't get that way in a vacuum.
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:07 PM
1

I think they know whether the girls are attractive or not, but (many) girls value themselves based on their appearance and use that compliment as an expression of friendship. You know how drunk guys have the "I love you man you're so awesome I'm so glad we're friends" conversation? With girls it's "I love you you're so beautiful I'm so glad we're friends".
/r/seduction05/04/13 08:33 PM
2

Absolutely. I wouldn't say it's exclusive to guys with a lack of self-confidence. I have a stupid amount of self-confidence and I still get approach anxiety. Approach anxiety is your brain trying to protect you from embarrassment and emotionally damaging situations. Beautiful women have a higher likelihood of rejecting and potentially embarrassing us. Not only beauty but presentation as well, a beautiful woman really well dressed in designer clothes and jewelry for example. I'm surprised anyone …
/r/seduction05/04/13 08:28 PM
10

Girls playing with their hair is an "IOI" in pick up lingo. Adjusting your appearance when someone is staring at you means you're a little bashful at the attention, it's very cute. Having this effect on a woman will give the man a boost of confidence he may need to approach. Eye contact is generally used to gauge interest. If I get a bad response from eye contact I may not approach outside of a bar/club.
/r/seduction05/04/13 02:08 AM
1

Fantastic. Thank you. Read your FRs great stuff, will apply. Really considering switching exclusively to direct, it's more congruent with my personality, sounds like yours too. One question. What do you do if girl is in group? Just pull her away? Do you care if her friends are present and can hear your direct approach?
/r/seduction05/04/13 02:05 AM
1

I'm really surprised how passive girls are in the seduction process. Why do you have to play the passive role? It's traditional, but this isn't Saudi Arabia, you're free to ask a man out if you want to. If you feel the need to adhere to traditional gender roles there are a number of easy, low risk "girl pick up" ways you can arrange to see him again. Two examples that have happened to me recently: Girl adds me on facebook. Generally I assume the girl's interested and will make a mental note to m…
/r/seduction05/04/13 12:10 AM
25

Congratulations on making the decision to better yourself. Heartbreak is an excellent motivator. A word of caution, don't become obsessed with "beta" and "alpha", viewing the world in that way is a rather "beta" thing to do. Make yourself and your life as fucking awesome as possible. Where to begin: Join a gym and begin a weight training regimen immediately. Visit r/fitness to get a program for hypertrophy. They'll push Starting Strength on you, but fuck that it will make you strong but you want…
/r/seduction04/04/13 08:11 PM
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Firstly, loving all the ladies coming out of lurking. Nice to know women wonder about us as well. Keep it up! To answer your question, not necessarily, but you should still treat it as such. I make eye contact with every reasonably attractive woman within 10 years of my age that I pass on the street simply to keep up the habit of doing so. Your response, if you are interested, should be to hold it for several seconds, then look down demurely and smile as if you can't help it, because our unabash…
/r/seduction04/04/13 07:45 PM
1

Can't you bring friends? You're over thinking it. Just go and have fun at the party. Nothing would specifically "turn me on/off to get to know a girl at a party", other than don't get sloppy wasted and be loud and obnoxious. If there's a guy there you are interested in be hot/cold. Talk to other guys, don't give him all your attention. And smile!
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:08 PM
1

To be honest I think it's unlikely you'll find what you're looking for from this subreddit. I don't think men are aware of what attracts them beyond the physical any more than women are. And most men here are unsuccessful with women, and thus not incredibly discerning. Study your friend. What's the difference between her and you (assuming you're equally attractive)? Have you looked for a modern version of The Rules? I tried to think of what attracted me to women more strongly than the ones I jus…
/r/seduction04/04/13 03:41 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/bayareaseddit read the sidebar.
/r/seduction04/04/13 02:59 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/bayareaseddit read the sidebar.
/r/seduction04/04/13 02:59 PM
5

What are you looking to get out of "game"? Laid more, a bf, social skills etc.? Also if you happen to be in the Bay Area join the groupme.
/r/seduction04/04/13 01:10 AM
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Mostly. Women would be a very positive addition though.
/r/seduction03/04/13 11:59 PM
2

I don't really believe in "shit tests" I just use the phrase because it's convention in this forum.
/r/seduction03/04/13 06:11 PM
3

It's hyperbole. If you want to continue to believe it's all about looks, more power to you. That limiting belief won't help you, however. And it's easily dispelled by looking around at the world. Haven't you seen attractive women with unattractive men? They're everywhere. It's the best part about being a man, you don't have to be a genetic lottery winner to have a satisfying sex life with beautiful women. It certainly helps, but it's neither necessary nor sufficient.
/r/seduction03/04/13 06:07 PM
7

No, it really isn't. This girl told me her last bf was a short, fat, hairy hungarian dude and that looks mean nothing to her. While I don't subscribe to the theory that looks don't matter, they're certainly not why she slept with me, especially given she didn't even remember what I look like and 95% of our interaction took place via text. I've also been reasonably handsome for my entire life and still had no luck with women. Nor am I giving anyone anything, I simply told a story. Guys should max…
/r/seduction03/04/13 12:20 PM
1

I enjoyed the opportunity to be aggressive and unapologetically sexual. It was fun.
/r/seduction03/04/13 05:41 AM
1

Sometimes I just continue the conversation on other topics. Sometimes I stop and wait till she sends another text.
/r/seduction03/04/13 05:39 AM
3

5'11" and I'm reasonably handsome.
/r/seduction03/04/13 05:38 AM
1

To be honest that's my normal state, I need to tone down aggressiveness or I come off creepy. So for me this was the ideal girl. I usually lose sets by being too forward.
/r/seduction03/04/13 05:30 AM
1

lol gotta rejoin the BAS groupme for those.
/r/seduction03/04/13 12:23 AM
8

You're correct that my texts were congruent with my real life personality. Texting agressive sexual shit while being meek and polite in real life would have been a non-starter. That's why a lot of dudes crash when sexualizing over text, they don't back it up in person. Also I don't know your stance on shit tests..
/r/seduction02/04/13 06:31 PM
7

I loved every minute of it. It was challenging and fun. To be honest I love a girl who can give me shit, and keep things interesting. Most girls texts are boring as fuck. It's also a challenge, I wanted to win.
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:40 PM
23

I picked a few choice ones. There were so many more. Endless.
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:15 PM
8

Lol well clearly it sometimes works. That's the point. It's douchebag game. See this FR: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/haepr/fr_tokyoseddit_lords_over_shibuya_seduces_model/ Relevant excerpt: "It's very important to understand calibration here. The aggressive, unapologetic, somewhat douchey game he runs here is pretty much designed for HB9 models. Do this on a run-of-the-mill HB7 and watch the set erupt in your face."
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:08 PM
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It is. But 1/100 scenarios occur. Figured it might be useful as it's different than the standard FR with the cute girl from the local college. Certainly too aggressive for her, but I think it's solid calibration for a girl that's telling me about getting fucked and saying I'm all talk. Being caught off guard is great. And none of those were sincere "fuck offs".
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:19 AM
2

You look for signs of loyalty. I'm not sure I can describe them, but I know them when I see them. You keep her excited and attracted. Women can be in love but not excited and they'll cheat. Keep her excited, thinking you're sexy, and fuck her good regularly. It doesn't even matter if she fucking hates you sometimes or you make her cry, that won't make her cheat, the danger is if she's bored.
/r/seduction02/04/13 03:04 AM
0

Not sure why it's depressing. Women are attracted to ambition, success, popularity, social skills. All positive qualities. Should they like a dude who's got nothing good going on?
/r/seduction31/03/13 09:20 PM
0

Hard to say what the order is. Financial resources are pretty universally attractive. An arrogant, brash personality can become attractive when backed by a ton of money/success/ambition.
/r/seduction31/03/13 07:11 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/seduction31/03/13 07:07 PM
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No there isn't. It happens a million times a day, it's a part of the process. Does a man ask you "can I hold your hand" before he holds it? "Can I put my arm around you" before he does so? "Can I kiss you"? The last one being described frequently as a turnoff for women. There's a certain risk involved in every physical interaction, and the unknown aspect of what's allowed/going to happen next. That's part of the fun of it.
/r/seduction31/03/13 02:03 AM
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PUA community likes to say that any guy can get any girl, and downplay the importance of looks. This is a business tactic in my opinion. The list goes: status > money > personality >> looks Looks aren't super important, and less important for dating. There is however a minimum threshold of attractiveness that most women have that you have to meet, or work a lot harder to overcome. We also unconsciously assign positive characteristics to attractive people (happiness, health, popularity, extrovers…
/r/seduction31/03/13 12:41 AM
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Sounds like you've given yourself a job to do!
/r/seduction30/03/13 06:11 PM
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Chalking up his success to a cultural difference simply because you believe you'd be unreceptive to an aggressive, direct approach is really quite silly. Surprising as it may be, you are not every woman in America. I approach women here in the states very aggressively regularly and they love it. You claim you don't have an attitude but have betrayed one with your use of the word predatory and your talk of pulling out a gun in response to a man suggesting you come home with him. There is nothing …
/r/seduction30/03/13 06:09 PM
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Just saw your edit. What situation do you think I'm in?
/r/seduction29/03/13 06:14 PM
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I understand your point. The reason I included that is she behaved as if I was a "cuckolded man" so to speak, telling me don't feel bad and reacting with sympathy. I never gave any indication I cared, but she assumed I would (from past experience I guess). I laughed and told her I don't care.
/r/seduction29/03/13 04:20 PM
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Yes, she's banging me. Fair enough, guess I'll just be honest.
/r/seduction29/03/13 03:25 PM
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Yes absolutely. Insider view of the industry would be very valuable!
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:50 AM
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Came to say confidence is knowing you can [get the girl, get the job etc.], cockiness is saying you can.
/r/seduction27/03/13 07:31 PM
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You already slept with her. She's attracted to you. Just be a normal person. "She's adorable, have fun. Talk to you next week."
/r/seduction22/03/13 07:31 PM
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Looks do matter. Height does matter. Both help. But you can't change it so there's no point worrying about it. I'd wear dress shoes with a small heel (not stupid shit like neil strauss wears), make sure you're well dressed and groomed, in shape, and move on.
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:49 PM
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Thank you is always good. With that specific one you could say ok my turn and play like you're gonna lift her shirt up.
/r/seduction21/03/13 04:55 AM
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I don't understand this FR. You met a guy to fuck him, on craigslist, and gave him lessons in pick up, and then fucked him? How is this seduction?
/r/seduction15/03/13 04:02 AM
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How much money do you make annually? How do you get your clients?
/r/seduction12/03/13 03:09 PM
1

It's not so much that you weren't always like this, but that you didn't always exhibit this behaviour. The potential to behave that way was in you given the right circumstances, and your relationship provided them. Ask yourself why, and why it will be different in the future. It may be a combination of something in you, or some incompatibility between you and your boyfriend. In either case it takes more than 3 weeks to know. That being said, I've been in love and I know it's hard to walk away ca…
/r/seduction10/03/13 07:37 AM
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You are in the wrong place. This is about seduction, not manipulating your ex's emotions into getting back into a bad relationship. You have not changed. People don't have miraculous transformations in 3 weeks. You are the same crazy bitch you were a few weeks ago. You are simply trying to validate your ego because you have been rejected, and trying to get back your supply of the chemical addiction that is "love" to stop the withdrawal. Give it a year, if you still want him then maybe consider i…
/r/seduction10/03/13 07:03 AM
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What you miss is that the advice about texting and keeping it short isn't because that's viewed as good "text game", but rather that if you don't know what you're doing it gives you less opportunity to fuck it up. If you text purely logistics when setting up the first couple dates, the girl won't lose any attraction for you. She may not gain any (though if you're direct in the way you set up dates, she will), but it won't do you any harm. While lame, boring, question texts will cause her to lose…
/r/seduction05/03/13 03:35 AM
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Why don't you look for a job that doesn't require you live in a town full of men and ugly women?
/r/seduction24/02/13 09:03 AM
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I don't know where the young crowd goes. The Maddy? Also queen west. Day game at u of t.
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:25 AM
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I view it as being for absolute beginners. When you look at what Style was like starting out, he couldn't even talk to a woman. He talks about how he ran into trouble with his girlfriend when he realized he ran out of routines and had to be himself. From the limited amount of his material I've seen, most of it seems to be targeted at guys like him. For example, the stylelife challenge is designed to get you a date in 30 days. Day 3 is asking 3 women for a clothing store recommendation. Personall…
/r/seduction20/02/13 07:08 AM
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No, you're not missing that much I don't think. It's a good book on general social skills, but I don't think it's effective unless you read it regularly and make a concerted effort to apply it in your daily life. Edit: I agree The Game does show that anyone can do this.
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:50 AM
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Kino her after with stretching.
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:15 AM
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Fuck The Game. It's antiquated and for guys who have no personality so need to memorize what to say. Unless you're very socially awkward and can't even talk to a woman I wouldn't bother with it. Read: Models by Mark Manson. How To Win Friends And Influence People by Dale Carnegie
/r/seduction20/02/13 04:38 AM
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1) She's 24. 2) I should clarify this is an example of calibration. This girl firstly stated that timid people irritate her, and secondly works in the porn industry so is very sexually comfortable. You have to adjust for your target, this would scare off some girls.
/r/seduction16/02/13 11:24 PM
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Here's one. Gave this girl my number by saying "Okay you've intrigued me. You can have my number now". She texts me later. Her: I never really asked for your number lol Me: I know you didn't. But I wanted you to have it. I like to take control. Her: I like a man who takes control. Timid people irritate me. Me: I know you do. Me: That's why you're going to come to my place and do everything I tell you to. [this was overly aggressive, I was drunk, and we exchanged some explicit conversation earlie…
/r/seduction16/02/13 11:08 PM
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"Take your dress off". Don't say "you should". Maintain strong eye contact when you say it.
/r/seduction15/02/13 10:18 PM
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