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Lots of fake accounts, lots of people advertising their ig account hoping for follows and likes.
/r/seduction04/03/20 12:17 AM
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Always go for the kiss at the end of the date if it didn't go south at any point or if there's been any kind of emotional/physical build-up or escalation. If you're unsure then use the phrase "I'd really like to kiss you". By stating intention you are by default not asking for permission. She can still decline and then you don't feel like an ass for leaning in expectantly, or she will respond with a green light. My favorite responses are "do it then" or "please do" or the cheesy Hollywood-esque …
/r/seduction24/02/20 06:52 PM
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I've always been a fan of the simple "thanks" after a compliment. Then converse about something that isnt looks related.
/r/seduction07/02/20 07:35 PM
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That's not an entirely equal comparison. Rebel Wilson compares more directly to Chris Farley who had status and wealth but died to drug overdosing as a result of loneliness/depression. It's hard to find unattractive female pop stars because being attractive is such a requisite for the job. Maybe Susan Boyle? But she is a very odd case. Even Adele, whom some might consider too full figured to be attractive, would not have Amy trouble finding someone to date/marry if she chose to.
/r/seduction28/07/19 08:55 PM
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Why are you lavishing her with attention (snapchats) before you've even met? Set up the date, stop giving her attention, meet and see where it goes. Up until the actual meet up you should be communicating very little.
/r/seduction25/07/19 07:23 PM
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You think a handsome dude can reach up under a chicks skirt, who he doesnt know and just met, and start fingering in the middle of a crowded bar? Yeeeaaahh ok..
/r/seduction22/07/19 05:12 PM
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the amount we’d text each other was seriously colossal. Found out what you did wrong.
/r/seduction18/07/19 05:19 PM
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Yeah it's how new STIs get created..
/r/seduction17/07/19 04:57 PM
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Nothing more fickle in life than a womans emotional interest in a man. Their emotions change on a dime, especially early on.
/r/seduction17/07/19 04:52 PM
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Let's be clear here. What you're talking about is called emotional cheating and potentially actual cheating. Seduction and game have no bearing on how this plays out. No amount of playing at being aloof and flippant will win you her loyalty. Either she is serious about maintaining the relationship or she is serious about getting as much dick as she can regardless of fidelity. You need to talk to her, and if you're not ok with the outcome you need to walk.
/r/seduction17/07/19 04:46 PM
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A woman wont make physical contact with you if she is trying to ignore you, especially with her ass. There's no such thing as a woman pushing you out of a dance circle with her ass. If a womans ass is on your crotch it's because she wants it there, not because she doesnt want to dance with you.
/r/seduction16/07/19 08:58 PM
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And people wonder why seduction gets a bad rap..
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:43 PM
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Why isnt being genuine the way it works? I do care about her, so why not show it? Because you arent being 100% genuine. You are caring for her because you have romantic/sexual feelings about her and hoping that brings you closer. However she isnt yours to look after. She is a person. She isnt an NPC that will catch feelings if you do x number of nice things for her. You can only be there for her right now as a friend, which is great if you can actually only be her friend and not want something e…
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:56 AM
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That's why I referenced the stat regarding females.
/r/seduction16/07/19 12:18 AM
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The truth is it ain't no fun when the homies cant get none. But most people are too selfish to realize that or care. If you take care of your friends but they dont equally take care of you then they arent friends, they are activity partners.
/r/seduction15/07/19 11:38 PM
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You swiped right about 10% of the time which is even lower than the average for women. And yet you ended up with a long term relationship but you're still complaining?
/r/seduction15/07/19 11:32 PM
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Because this: While on our way there and back I escalated to rubbing her thigh. Took a few tries but she didnt mind it. This sounds like improperly escalated kino (at the wrong time/in wrong setting). She probably got creeped out by your touching instead of having the intended effect of gaining comfort.
/r/seduction15/07/19 05:24 PM
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Denim, you say?
/r/seduction08/07/19 10:56 PM
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Np
/r/seduction03/07/19 09:44 PM
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The reply was to your rant about women having the attention span of a house cat.
/r/seduction03/07/19 09:15 PM
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You're confusing being in a relationship with trying to get casual sex.
/r/seduction03/07/19 08:56 PM
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This is utter bullshit.
/r/seduction03/07/19 08:44 PM
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Like I said search it yourself. You seem to be adamant in not doing that though.
/r/seduction03/07/19 12:47 AM
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Seriously? From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming : There is no scientific evidence supporting the claims made by NLP advocates and it has been discredited as a pseudoscience. Scientific reviews state that NLP is based on outdated metaphors of how the brain works that are inconsistent with current neurological theory and contain numerous factual errors. Reviews also found that all of the supportive research on NLP contained significant methodological flaws and that the…
/r/seduction03/07/19 12:31 AM
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You can read for yourself all the ways in which NLP was debunked. It's easily searchable.
/r/seduction03/07/19 12:01 AM
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You're about 20 years too late for the NLP band wagon. Lol. My point is that if it works then people would have taken notice and it would have blown up.
/r/seduction02/07/19 11:45 PM
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You probably weren't harassing the strippers either. What would I have to be bitter about? I'm in fact trying to discourage you from attempting something pointless based on some fantasy reading you did. But you're so set on it you dont want to hear any talk of reason. If NLP really works the way you hope it does why isnt it being used by everyone in seduction?
/r/seduction02/07/19 11:30 PM
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Totally over thinking group dates. Nothing wrong with them. In fact guys are encouraged to invite women to group dates on this sub all the time. There is little difference in the dynamic of picking up chicks that are out at night with their friends and going on a 2nd date in a double date. She invited you out and you turned her down, then proceeded to bombard her with texts. That's why she lost interest.
/r/seduction02/07/19 11:20 PM
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You're not a wizard, Harry. You sound like someone who has just stumbled upon the seduction community and thinks he just discovered the magic bullet to fucking all the strippers he wants for free. Back in the real world, real shit happens. Try not to get the shit beaten out of you by the bouncers at the strip club when trying your Ross Jefferies era NLP witchcraft.
/r/seduction02/07/19 11:07 PM
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You're trying to explain to me that a concept I am already familiar with. What I'm telling you is that unless you are with a huge group of people your attempt to "reframe" the attitude of the stripper" is going to fail when she asks "so WHY are you actually here then?" after you try to tell her you're not there to be a paying customer. More importantly, after your first interaction with a single stripper you will be known to the entire establishment. You think strippers don't talk? As soon as yo…
/r/seduction02/07/19 10:45 PM
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I do not agree with group dates early on Stupid ^
/r/seduction02/07/19 10:35 PM
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you need to make them understand that you arent there to be a customer You're in for a bad time if you go to someone's place of employment hoping to take up their time and attention while not intending to be a customer. Most strippers act pretty poorly towards people who are hanging out at strip clubs while not buying any lap dances. The method you're referencing might work if you were in a huge party of people that are dumping dollars down g-strings, but if you cruise in solo trying to pick up …
/r/seduction02/07/19 10:21 PM
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Maybe after you demonstrate initial interest you can mention something along the lines of how you "like guys who take initiative to reach out and plan dates".
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:32 PM
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OP not that good at clues, missed the most important one lol..
/r/seduction28/05/19 06:15 PM
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"Would you like some coffee or tea? How about a deep dicking?"
/r/seduction19/05/19 06:16 PM
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She gives herself to you and you fade on her for 24 hrs? Yeah that's a shitty pattern and bad game in general. Always message her they day after sex. You're basically making her feel like you're using her by dropping contact after you get what you want.
/r/seduction19/05/19 06:11 PM
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Just teach her the ∫eˣ = ƒᵤ(n) mathematic expression. She'll get the hint.
/r/seduction16/05/19 04:56 PM
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Dont make it awkward. Dont make it last too long. We arent talking about stopping a random person on the street and hugging them. The situation at hand is meeting someone on a date. There is already interest established, a hug is 100% appropriate.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:54 PM
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I suggest you let the girl lead with what she is comfortable with. This is the exact opposite of what you should do. A hug is not something that 99% will be uncomfortable with. If she happens to be uncomfortable with a hug then you know that she already has some kind of issues with basic casual touching. More importantly she will let you know and you dont have to force the hug. For everyone else a hug will make then feel more comfortable with you immediately.
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:43 PM
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Lmao. I know what neglect means. The OP doesnt since he is stating neglect her by giving her unbreaking eye contact.
/r/seduction14/05/19 06:36 PM
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Neglect her for a few minutes but keep staring into her eyes That's not what neglect means
/r/seduction14/05/19 05:43 PM
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Yeah I know was just making a funny. Also when you get things escalated with her you can call back to the whole "bossing her around" thing, but in bed. Good luck :)
/r/seduction14/05/19 01:16 AM
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Your phrasing "we will" do this or that comes off as over bearing and borderline demanding. There are ways of phrasing it better without turning it into a question or request. "Let's meet up Thursday. I'll walk Luna with you and then we can go into the city..." sounds way more welcoming and approachable than "we will do this and that". Work on your phrasing. And also why would you think her roommate Luna would want you to walk her.
/r/seduction14/05/19 01:08 AM
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Send her a video of you twerking, obvi.
/r/seduction10/05/19 10:20 PM
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She might be "interested" insofar as she thinks your attractive and possess good qualities for a bf but might not be vetting you for herself. Or maybe she is looking to warm the bench as she is planning to leave her current bf.
/r/seduction12/04/19 12:11 AM
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You know the graveyard she haunts so go hang out there hoping to wake the dead.
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:49 PM
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Tell them you'll ace their finals for them if they let you strap them to the dildo rocking chair in your sex dungeon.
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:46 PM
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Without consent that is sexual assault.
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:42 PM
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Doesnt sound like she is aware that you are actually asking her out on a date.
/r/seduction11/04/19 07:22 PM
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She told "I don't like doing this with you, you are very delicate in nature ." You: clearly you dont know me at all.
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:50 PM
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Asshole move.
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:15 PM
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Being a "nice guy" colloquially refers to the type of guy who thinks supplicating behavior will win the sexual or romantic interest of the girl he obsesses over. It refers to a guy that isnt true to himself or his desires, is willing to take on tasks or expenses that he wouldnt normally be willing to do because again he thinks this will win him sex or love. He's wrong, it wont. What you are referring to is a good man. This is fundamentally different than a "nice guy". A good man respects his bou…
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:11 PM
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She didnt flake out on you a 2nd time. She gave your a specific reason and requested to postpone. That's very different and demonstrates genuine interest. No reason for you to behave and feel so defeated. You seem really insecure. Her messages to you seem good while your messages to her seem kinda needy. She said in her 2nd message next weekend then you follow up saying you're free during the week. She said after 5pm on Wednesday then you "told her" to meet you at that time... uh. Chill a bit an…
/r/seduction10/04/19 02:29 PM
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This is no longer how it works. According to tinder they have dropped the elo method and now reward active users with more visibility. https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/15/18267772/tinder-elo-score-desirability-algorithm-how-works
/r/seduction09/04/19 11:36 PM
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RBF generally means you're unapproachable. If you're conscious of it then you should be able to take steps to appear more approachable by smiling, making eye contact, and appearing friendly.
/r/seduction09/04/19 05:53 PM
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Best one lol
/r/seduction08/04/19 05:51 PM
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Drop they preface "hey I was wondering.... or hey just wanted to know... hey I thought I would ask..." this is weak ass shit right here. Dont ask. Make a statement. "I'd really like to meet up with you, let's grab a drink and play pool at x place on y night at z time."
/r/seduction04/04/19 05:01 PM
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Dont expect her to initiate until you've met and there is chemistry.
/r/seduction02/04/19 05:40 PM
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You asked too many questions. You asked if she was interested then asked when she is available. Next time assume interest from her and state that youd like to take her out and state your plan. 8pm on Tuesday at this or that bar. This comes across as way more confident and also makes saying yes a lot easier because she doesnt have to think about logistics. This is 101 level stuff my guy.
/r/seduction01/04/19 11:28 PM
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Next time just take out your wallet and throw dolla dolla bills at her.
/r/seduction28/03/19 09:52 PM
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No dont waste your money. All the info is out there in spade for free. There are some books worth picking up but those won't cost you much. Pua coaches prey on desperate men who have too much money.
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:46 PM
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You flipped her over to be on the top - don't do this, but instead dominate her by being on top of her. You can still be in full control with a chick on top of you. Granted a virgin might not know how to do that, but dominating someone and where your body is physically in relation to hers aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:39 PM
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You insinuated that she is a prostitute, yeah that's gonna kill the mood.. lol.
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:37 PM
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It's not actually a shit test if you're friendzoned. Best to focus your attention elsewhere.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:54 PM
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Why let the grass grow around your feet while you wait to magically feel better. Meeting other people, staying busy and social, and hooking up with someone new will all help you get over an ex.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:33 PM
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This is not true at all. You are confusing girls talking about current guys with talking about their ex. If she is bringing up an ex it is to demonstrate that she is not seeing that guy and can even be a way of showing interest. If you're hearing about guys they are seeing currently or boy problems then you are friendzoned.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:17 PM
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If you stand in the middle of the bus and jump while it's moving the force will move you towards the chick effectively doing the approach for you.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:06 PM
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Same day.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:04 PM
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More often than not if you're hearing about other guys from a chick then you're in the friendzone.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:04 PM
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What you should do is go on as many dates with other girls as possible and friendzone your ex. End of story.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:03 PM
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It sounds like there is attraction there. It was best that you were social with everyone and didnt spend too much time focusing on her solely. She may have just been tired or drunk at various times when she stopped paying attention to you, but it means nothing in the long run. Text her and ask her out.
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:01 PM
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The One for men is also really solid by D&G
/r/seduction28/03/19 04:56 PM
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You cant. All you can do is get over her and move on emotionally so that you can start to pursue other women.
/r/seduction27/03/19 08:00 PM
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Move on. You'll only get continually hurt by this person who wants what she cant have and doesnt want it when she has it. She cancelled on you twice and both of them were fake bogus reasons. This will be a repeated pattern as you continually sink your emotional energy and time into her. Continue engaging her at your own risk. Move the fuck on for reals though.
/r/seduction27/03/19 05:23 PM
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There is a lot to say about using the sound of your voice in seduction, but at this stage it's pretty simple: TALK ABOUT. Ok Bonnie Raitt, give us something to TALK ABOUT.
/r/seduction27/03/19 05:15 PM
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Should I just pull away too? He's the type of guy who likes effort ...
/r/seduction24/03/19 05:01 PM
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Probably cause you eat burgers in elevators.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:59 PM
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Is it playful flirting, and I’ve just been too socially inept to work it out lol? This is 100% correct
/r/seduction19/03/19 06:35 PM
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Do the helicopter dick, to impress a chick.
/r/seduction15/03/19 08:34 PM
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To all the fellas out there with ladies to impress, It's easy to do just follow these steps: 1) cut a hole in a box 2) put your junk in that box 3) make her open the box And that's the way you do it.
/r/seduction14/03/19 06:05 PM
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If you're already over it tell her you work for Google and Google knows all.
/r/seduction13/03/19 11:56 PM
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It is accepted. If you want a hot chick you must pass her shit test while maintaining frame. There are no two ways about it. If it's so bad you can't accept it then you can opt to not try to have sex with high value women.
/r/seduction13/03/19 11:44 PM
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And yet women test men all the time like human test lab rats and we accept it unquestioningly.
/r/seduction13/03/19 08:20 PM
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It's not like he was on a dry spell during the process. He fucked a bunch of other chicks. It was an experiment for sure and a long one but definitely interesting and worth the read.
/r/seduction13/03/19 08:18 PM
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Look for events on campus, join campus groups or study groups. Talk to people in your class. Hang out on campus playing pokemon go or whatever. Find reasons to talk to people. Eat in the cafeteria and chat with people. Join meetups. Host game days or nights.
/r/seduction12/03/19 11:49 PM
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Kissing too early isn't a thing.
/r/seduction12/03/19 11:20 PM
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If anyone is throwing eye contacts around the bus you should definitely catch them. Contacts are notoriously hard to see when dropped on the ground or the floor of a bus. Plus they can be really expensive for a good quality pair too.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:43 PM
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You dont have a choice about it. You can stew in self pity and wallow in misery or bootstrap and start to change things. You're obviously intelligent. This is a mind over matter situation, you must figure it out or else nothing will change.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:03 PM
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It doesnt matter how you look or how much money if you have if you let your negative attitude bring you down. That is a stink you cant just wash off. You have to 100% change your internal monologue about yourself, think positively and it will reflect outwards. Nobody wants to be around a downer. You need to start with getting friends and doing fun stuff first.
/r/seduction12/03/19 08:50 AM
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Yes when rolling people are touchy feely. But grabbing another dudes girl by the hand and leading her is pretty fucking far from normal even in this kind of settings.
/r/seduction11/03/19 10:16 PM
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Move it offline asap.
/r/seduction11/03/19 10:14 PM
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Why not just approach him before or after class and strike up a conversation?
/r/seduction11/03/19 08:45 PM
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Her: I bet you miss me. You: New phone. Who dis?
/r/seduction11/03/19 06:56 PM
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Dude you denied the late night booty call. Y tho?
/r/seduction11/03/19 05:15 PM
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Always text the day after a hookup. It doesnt come off as desperate when you were literally just inside her. It shows you're a man and have respect for the person that just made herself extremely vulnerable to you. Not texting is a lot worse and makes you come off as another fuckboi douche.
/r/seduction11/03/19 05:04 PM
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You could also try eating her out to orgasm before you bone.
/r/seduction07/03/19 01:44 AM
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That's called the cervix and can be very painful during sex if it is pounded for most women. Probably has a little numbness to the pain when she is drunk. You need to ease up on the depth of your stroke my dude. Try other positions for different angles, usually you can get just as deep doing doggy or reverse cowgirl and not hit the cervix.
/r/seduction07/03/19 01:28 AM
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If I ask a question I will usually wait for their response unless I need to add something for clarification. More typically if I double text it's making statements rather than asking questions.
/r/seduction06/03/19 03:10 AM
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I double text all the time. Sometimes triple text if the conversation calls for it. Dates rarely cancel on me anymore. Maybe that's your problem.
/r/seduction05/03/19 06:48 PM
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I like this a lot. Gonna try it. Usually I just drop convos that are dry af and go nowhere because the girl is merely responding to questions rather than conversing and being engaged.
/r/seduction27/02/19 08:48 PM
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Oops that was auto correct (on mobile). Fixed it to be cocky-funny.
/r/seduction27/02/19 08:35 PM
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Being mean is not going to get you anywhere. Go for sarcastic and cocky-funny. The key is to make sure that you're having fun throughout the interaction. Without that element you'll just come off as a prick and you won't get the reactions you're seeking. Being stoic is also a great trait to maintain, especially when they starting dishing it back at you with sassiness.
/r/seduction27/02/19 08:14 PM
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Bleep blorp.
/r/seduction27/02/19 01:40 AM
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What mixed signals?? She sings but she doesn’t sing for most people and she sang for me. This is huge. Too bad you failed to read this correctly. This demonstrates comfort and interest. Just ask her out again and proceed as normal.
/r/seduction26/02/19 11:33 PM
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Originated as another term for the taint or chose. Nowadays it's a term that is used to refer to douchy guys.. like bros or fuckbois.
/r/seduction26/02/19 11:26 PM
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That's not what Chad refers to at all.
/r/seduction26/02/19 11:24 PM
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In the context of this post there isn't much difference. Psychologists can conduct therapy for patients but are often more involved with research whereas therapists main career function is to help clients work through their emotions. Providing actionable plans in therapy takes a back seat to facilitating personal break throughs, usually by asking probing questions. Talking about the past and realizing how it relates to the present is supposed to be therapeutic. Therapists aren't life coaches tho…
/r/seduction20/02/19 03:27 AM
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That sub is trash. Dont listen to the trainwrecks there.
/r/seduction19/02/19 10:22 PM
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In the words of the eternally wise Jack Johnson, it seems to me that maybe pretty much always means no.
/r/seduction12/02/19 12:03 AM
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keep someone entertained or make them laugh This is not your job on a date. You should be getting to know them by sharing stories and engaging in banter. You should be more worried about keeping yourself entertained than your date. If you get bored so will your date, if you're having a good time by keeping conversation fun then likely so will your date. And it will come off an nonchalant, casual, and confident.
/r/seduction29/01/19 09:20 AM
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Then there are those that are on it for entirely different reasons: to gain IG followers or just for attention/validation. Also low value users
/r/seduction09/09/18 01:59 AM
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Get a hobby, new book series, show to bunge, or alternately male friends to hang out with...
/r/seduction31/08/18 09:58 PM
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Um.. whatever works as long as the date your are scheduling is not planned to occur that same day. Give yourself more time to plan out your schedule. Also if you don't end up having plans on a particular day learn to enjoy spending quality time by yourself.
/r/seduction31/08/18 07:13 PM
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Dont wait til the day of, schedule in advance.
/r/seduction30/08/18 10:54 PM
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Nice set of hooters you got there.
/r/seduction30/08/18 10:53 PM
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This is a good podcast. Thanks for sharing. For those too lazy to listen yourselves: TL;DL my take. None of this stuff is new, but the dude says it well. theorem 1: Shyness is just a defense mechanism to tell others you lack confidence in yourself. The state of being shy is not an emotion. Stop being shy by cognitively deciding to knock that shit out. theorem 2: Women are just like men and are attracted to good looking people first and foremost. Women are better than men at settling for someone …
/r/seduction30/08/18 01:37 AM
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don't text her, let her text you but to me This is stupid. I always text after a date the following day, assuming I'm still interested.
/r/seduction29/08/18 06:46 PM
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I’m 24 which I know is young but I missed out on a lot of crucial things. lol
/r/seduction23/08/18 01:20 AM
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Nothing done on a company's computers/accounts is private. You can chat but expect that management will be able to see everything you do on their tech, in some companies this includes recording your screens and calls.
/r/seduction21/08/18 11:51 PM
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I know what you mean, the sub gave me chlamydia because it literally forced me to fuck a dirty chick against my will. /s
/r/seduction21/08/18 08:02 PM
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I didn't. Get older and date younger is the same piece of advice. Only you were interpreting what i said to mean wait to date until you are older, which was not my intent so I rephrased it. The operative mode of thought is you wont really have much opportunity to date girls your age, but as long as there's an age gap you'll be percieved as more mature than the guys going after girl's her own age.
/r/seduction21/08/18 03:36 PM
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Actually what you should do is date younger. If you're 23, date 18-21.
/r/seduction20/08/18 05:20 PM
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It's not exactly a mystery. Women tend to prefer men with experience and age brings that. Almost all women in their 20s will tell you that guys their same age are way too immature to date.
/r/seduction19/08/18 06:07 PM
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I actually wouldn't mind just being friends with this chick. You already are, you just haven't figured it out yet. If a girl is turning away from you when you try to kiss her and says "why do you always do this" you're deep in the friendzone. Keep her as a friend and ask her to wing you when you go out together. If she doesn't agree then you know she's using you to boost her ego and for the attention.
/r/seduction19/08/18 05:52 PM
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As a 23 year old guy, what do I need to do to get attention from someone my age? Get older
/r/seduction19/08/18 04:12 PM
3

The term you're looking for is "zeitgeist" not telepathy.
/r/seduction19/08/18 04:10 PM
7

It's literally theater... so...
/r/seduction16/08/18 03:31 PM
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I call, still get voicemail 99% of the time.
/r/seduction14/08/18 07:39 PM
2

Video you posted is not about having a high sex drive. It's about having sex while high on weed. It's also not available to view in the US.
/r/seduction09/08/18 07:33 PM
5

We have been going out for a month and have had 1 short date. Someone you've seen once is asking you for money and dropping hints that she wants jewelry for her bday 2 months away? The fact that you're even on the fence is disconcerting. Move on.
/r/seduction09/08/18 06:14 PM
2

Those are probably bots.
/r/seduction08/08/18 08:32 AM
14

Escalate on up readation.
/r/seduction08/08/18 08:28 AM
2

Use texting to make plans not get to know someone. Meet in person for that.
/r/seduction07/08/18 11:45 PM
1

It depends on how congruent you are when flirting. I've never had a woman insuante anything close to what you're suggesting in person. Kino is a huge part of game, what's with the attempted shaming?
/r/seduction07/08/18 05:39 PM
1

That sounds pretty robotic and not smooth or conversational at all. Go back to her, continue conversation and ask her out again properly. Avoid any talk of negativity or annoyance, dont accuse her of anything. Just be generally pleasant and interesting. If she continues to deflect or ignore, move on.
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:44 PM
3

I love calling girls out on being nervous. It's an opportunity to be cocky funny while kinoing and building comfort. It also shows that you are aware of subtlety and attentive to her needs/wants. Grab her hand gently, "you look nervous. Don't worry I won't bite.. hard" with a cheesy wink or grin. Or "I can tell you really like me based on how nervous are right now" then lean back and maintain eye contact with a grin and wait for her to fill in the uneasy silence.
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:10 PM
1

When you asked her out how did you do it? Just randomly interject "hey wanna go out sometime?" I find it's best to lead with a genuine compliment about an aspect of her personality that you've learned from the conversation. Then state intention with the offer, without phrasing it as a question. Such as.. "Wow you seem very worldly, I bet you have many more interesting travel stories. I'd really like to meet you and continue our conversation, lets get a drink. I'm free on Thursday.." The key ingr…
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:02 PM
2

Don't respond right away, don't respond to everything. If it continues use the type of responses girls give guys when they make guys wonder if they are still interested. "Oh cool" or "Glad you had fun" These are essentially conversation stoppers and if you continue to get loads of texts then you know she is desperate or needy, and probably not worth meeting.
/r/seduction06/08/18 07:04 AM
3

If you are infatuated or obsessed with one person in particular then you have oneitis.
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:53 AM
2

but the validation I really needed wasn’t available because I was expecting it to come from someone else rather than myself. FTFY
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:51 AM
0

Scientifically this is incorrect. Actually womens sex drive increases as they get older til their peak in their early to mid 40s. Perhaps a percieved increase in younger womens sexuality is due to the lacking of inhibitions the typically comes with the 18-21 alcohol phase.
/r/seduction03/08/18 09:17 PM
9

key difference between girls aged 18-21 & girls 23-26 The age of 22.
/r/seduction03/08/18 09:13 PM
1

Hyperbole. Look it up. My point is that it's not a realistic goal to date within such a strict confine of interest. No I don't put anime chicks on a pedestal, I was illustrating that chump nerds do however.
/r/seduction02/08/18 04:53 AM
3

The vast majority of those girls arent worth dating, the ones that are have their veritable pick of the litter. You have a better chance at dating a perfect 10 who has never heard of anime than dating an attractive and well-adjusted anime nerd chick. Maybe instead you should broaden your own passions an interests beyond anime, video games, and nerdy shit.
/r/seduction01/08/18 10:41 PM
1

Tell her that you wont stop yelling pizza until she agrees to get pizza with you.
/r/seduction01/08/18 10:20 PM
1

I'm not a fan of long winded qualifiers. I would recomend just go direct. Skip down to the last line. If she asks about Morgan then you can explain further.
/r/seduction31/07/18 08:58 PM
1

Sounds like breadcrumming.
/r/seduction31/07/18 04:20 PM
1

If you admitted it to the girl you were dating she has absolutely relayed that info to her friend. Which means you need to nut up and ask her friend out asap. If she is interested, which it sounds like, then it wont matter how you ask her out. Dont let your dreams be dreams.
/r/seduction31/07/18 04:14 PM
1

Why not just skip the snapchat phase and ask her out.
/r/seduction26/07/18 10:19 PM
34

Go for an activity date. Mini-golf, Dave n Busters/arcade, billiards, or bowling. Take every opportunity to make it competitive in a light-hearted and fun way. Don't take it seriously but be as cocky-funny as you can.
/r/seduction26/07/18 07:45 AM
1

Because it's actually impossible to escalate and build attraction unless you are spending time together face to face.
/r/seduction26/07/18 12:24 AM
2

Women cant reliably give you logical and truthful answers to questions like this. This is the equivalent of being told "just be yourself and she'll like you for who you are." Simply put she reached out to you because you stopped giving her attention and she realized she was interested in receiving more of your attention. Meaning you played the game well enough for it to work. If someone is interested they will counter offer with an alternate date/time they are available and when there is no inte…
/r/seduction25/07/18 10:47 PM
1

The fact that you've been texting for months with zero in person time, coupled with her ease at saying she loves you (ie.. kinda how girls that are bffs always tell eachother they love eachother) suggests that you're already friendzoned. Shouldn't be spending time continuing down this road.
/r/seduction25/07/18 10:38 PM
3

You dont seem to get the study. It's not saying that only 20% of men get to fuck ever. It's saying that 20% of men are immediately seen as attractive to the opposite sex at first sight. As in, pantries dropped doused and primed for entry. This follows with what everyone generally experiences. About 20% of men will get approached and pursued by women with no effort or initiation of their own. The rest have to fucking work for it which is why the seduction community even exists.
/r/seduction25/07/18 05:13 PM
4

Actually that's the whole point. It's that only 20% of men got all that stuff right so as to appear attractive.
/r/seduction25/07/18 03:54 PM
1

Shitpost. Your post and the title have nothing to do with one another. Nothing you've stated has to do with archetypes or stereotypes. Look up the definitions of those words. What you are trying to say is "use established trends to trick chicks into thinking you're trendy".
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:13 PM
1

He is needy, he even said so in other messages. Just a matter of time till she smells that stench and drops all contact.
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:03 PM
3

and need to see her again asap Change your thought patterns on this asap or you will fuck it all up. You shouldn't need anything from her. Reframe that shit, stat.
/r/seduction23/07/18 07:00 PM
1

She responded positively and agreed to meet and that equates to "playing serious games"? /facepalm
/r/seduction23/07/18 06:59 PM
1

Do it again, go back to it. If she continues to deflect, dodge, or ignore then you know she isnt going to meet up and no amount of social media changes that.
/r/seduction21/07/18 09:24 PM
20

Literally anything. "nice talking to you, enjoy your evening" "k thx bye" "i thought you were someone else, sorry" "oh shit my mom's calling me"
/r/seduction21/07/18 09:17 PM
1

By using mind control, duh. Did you even see season 1 on Netflix?
/r/seduction21/07/18 01:00 AM
1

Don't expect them to chase until after there's investment. For most guys this would be after a couple dates and most likely sex. Better question is why are you concerned with being chased? Unless you're smooth and George Clooney or ruggedly fuckable as Jason Moma you're not going to get the luxury of being chased for most of your interactions with women.
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:38 PM
3

Then go with your friends and leave them standing awkwardly in the corner while you go talk to people. If they see you having a good time and interacting with other people, especially women, then they might change their tune.
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:34 PM
2

Where do you find edge? I got you, my dude. Did you look here or here?
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:28 PM
2

You're confusing the concept of chase and the concept of initiating. Women rarely initiate, but will often chase when you have solid game.
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:20 PM
6

just stick with a swipe right-based app So... like Bumble?
/r/seduction20/07/18 11:19 PM
0

if you’re gonna settle for a 5, why try? Unless you’re looking for something serious
/r/seduction14/07/18 04:02 PM
2

Unless you’re looking for something serious Wut? Why would it be ok to settle for a 5 when looking for a relationship but not a ONS?
/r/seduction13/07/18 11:16 PM
-2

For every x there is a y = 50% chance of one or the other. It's not a hard concept really. If there were only two types of trees on the planet and they existed in exactly equal amounts everywhere then you could say for every cedar there is an oak. And your chances of seeing cedar or oak would be 50% of either occurring any time you look at a tree. How is this not exactly what you are stating?? What exactly do you think I am missing that is so vast that "you're not even going to bother"? I think …
/r/seduction13/07/18 07:57 PM
0

There is no 'nice guy' - that's just a convenient caricature used for ridicule which in reality is a lot rarer than everyone imagines. Wut? Seems like you're the one using absolutes here. For every story of 'nice guy' who creeped a girl out, there is a 'nice guy' who girl had high interest in, thought was sweet and a relationship developed from his 'ploys'. Do you sincerely believe that for every nice guy attempt to get the girl there's a 50% chance it will work? That's what you're saying. And i…
/r/seduction13/07/18 07:25 PM
1

Nice guys success to failure ratio is absolutely not 1 to 1. You dont really seem to understand the underlaying problem of the nice guy. It's not an issue of whether attraction is in place first. Nice guys wont find attraction, as their behavior is not even beta its omega. Attraction doesn't exist for dudes behaving like that. The issue is that nice guys aren't really "nice" they only act in a way that appears to be nice in order to get what they want but it's really just masking a river of rage…
/r/seduction13/07/18 05:28 PM
13

That show has some seriously legit dating/attraction theories behind the writing. The Vicky Mendoza Diagonal deserves a Nobel prize.
/r/seduction13/07/18 05:19 PM
4

Manage expectations prior to sex. Be clear about your intentions about not looking for anything serious. Really this is all it is about. You might lose out on some opportunities but then again those opportunities would have come back to this same point of the girl expecting more and developing feelings.
/r/seduction12/07/18 07:03 PM
4

Understand that your thoughts are not you, they aren't who you are, they are something you have, something you posses. They are not definitive of your being and like all possessions they can be kept or gotten rid of. I use a visualization exercise to get rid of unwanted negative thoughts. I like to visualize my negative thoughts as a big cartoon bomb with a lit fuse. I visualize myself kicking or punching the bomb off into the distance in a cartoony smash bros kinda way, and watch my negative th…
/r/seduction09/07/18 11:06 PM
2

Almost all seduction material for newbies is to convince you to nut up and get out of your room so you can start developing actual social skills by talking to real people. All game related material starts out with adherence bordering on devotion to the phrase "there is no magic bullet" and typically embellishes on that concept by stating what works for x doesn't always work for y and vise versa. That's the plausible deniability built into each and every seduction system. It's necessary to state …
/r/seduction18/06/18 11:15 PM
19

Sub-communication is soooo much more important than anything else in game Communicate with members of this sub as much as possible.
/r/seduction15/06/18 10:09 PM
3

The point isn't to get a girl across the country, it's to practice and learn on women that aren't in your actual dating pool. Such that once you get good you can switch your location back to where you really live and use good solid game on them rather than bottoming out while trying to learn.
/r/seduction05/06/18 09:12 PM
2

Double texting isn't a real rule. It's more like a "training wheels" rule really only meant for newbies to help prevent bad habits from forming. The bad habit being texting someone into a black hole and generally wait for a response. Once your text game is good enough you can and will break the double texting "rule".
/r/seduction04/06/18 10:21 PM
9

Limit to 1 - 2 selfies at most, 1 - 2 group or friend shots, and 1 - 2 action shots of you doing SOMETHING other than sitting at home/on the couch/in the car/at work. Make sure there is a clear body shot or 2. If you don't have any good action shots of you doing something, create an opportunity with a friend or two to go out and do something where you can get a couple of these kind of shots. Go on a bike ride or a hike, backyard bbq, playing pool or darts, or whatever your actual hobbies are. Go…
/r/seduction01/05/18 07:23 AM
1

Look it's a tough pill to swallow if you don't have options but flat out if a girl cancels on you and doesn't immediately offer a new date/time to reschedule then she is not interested in you. More importantly however is that she is not worth your time and energy. In your case I would offer a specific reschedule and if she won't or can't agree to that I would drop all communication.
/r/seduction20/04/18 10:16 PM
1

Own it, hard. You may get them to admit to playing video games or something of the sort and you can turn that into an activity to do together. All you can ever is own your personality and interests. If you don't then you will come off as fake, but when you do own it then you appear as confident even if you might not be. It helps the fake it til you make it mantra that is often passed around this forum. Also, get the jackbox games on your console. They are perfect party games that everyone can ge…
/r/seduction20/04/18 09:55 PM
2

I always set the second date up at the end of the first date. If she is interested she'll be eager to agree to a second meeting asap. If she says something half-assed like "yeah text me" I would take this as a sign of disinterest and cut contact altogether. In the cases I've had where I cut contact and she was interested she would always eventually text again to start up a convo and express interest in setting up another date.
/r/seduction11/04/18 06:44 PM
1

2nd should be an activity. Any kind of activity works. Bar- darts, billiards. Mini-golf, air hockey. Anything that's fun and silly but competitive will help escalation. I've even done a movie as a second date. Not ideal but if it's a comedy that's hilarious and you share a similar sense of humor this can work really well. A long walk in an area with lots of little shops and good people watching is also good.
/r/seduction10/04/18 11:25 PM
1

Go up to her when she has a circle of thirsty guys surrounding her and say "Ayyy, I'd like to fill your demand with my supply. Let's get together and grow this economy."
/r/seduction10/04/18 11:19 PM
1

This is a really stupid thread. What's the point in scaring away people from doing something that will expand their comfort zones. Who cares if some people judge you when you're out and about by yourself. Guess what, those same people will judge you and your group of friends just the same. If you're presenting yourself as high value you will be attractive whether you're out alone or in with a group. If the looks of strangers at a particular venue has a strong negative impact on your night then c…
/r/seduction10/04/18 11:07 PM
71

Yeah but those half-girls are seriously flakey.
/r/seduction10/04/18 10:20 PM
10

What's the point of getting a phone number. You have a direct line into their phone via the app. Getting the number is useless anymore. You have to re-open the conversation all over again. I can't remember the last time I asked for a number via an app before meeting someone. Set up the date through the app, meet up, and if it goes well you can ask for the number right before a k-close or something to that effect. This has the additional benefits of being mysterious. Many times I've had women men…
/r/seduction10/04/18 09:25 PM
1

Ask her, but make sure to emphasize that you are NOT planning to kill her. P.S. Yes, 2 dates in is way too fucking early to go on a week long trip with someone.
/r/seduction10/04/18 08:47 PM
1

Yes it's weird to ask for permission. It's also state cancelling for both yourself and the woman youre asking. Always better to state intention/desire. Learn to read body language. She will let you know if she wants to kiss very clearly with posture and eye contact.
/r/seduction10/04/18 08:42 PM
21

4) ASK HER IF SHE'S COMFORTABLE WITH YOU PICKING HER UP For anyone that doesn't know better, don't do this. If it's a first date just meet up at a location. Don't over complicate anything by bringing this up at all. Chances are you'll look way more creepy by trying to pick her up and thereby asking for her address. Save this for date 2 or better yet date 3.
/r/seduction29/07/16 03:51 PM
1

Millennials are touting the "culture of consent" like it's the holy Bible. Colleges are teaching this because if there is explicit consent given for any form of touching then they can not be held liable. It's really a shame because it's damaging to human interactions/dating/relationships in a way we can't predict the long term outcome.
/r/seduction24/06/16 06:00 PM
1

Too little texting seems to result in flakes/cancellations nowadays. Too much texting kills attraction. How to keep interest up in an oversaturated market with everyone to trending toward instant gratification via digital communication.
/r/seduction24/06/16 05:41 PM
-2

women in professional fields are going to highly prefer men on their educational and career level. There already is a shortage of young professional and educated men compared to women and it's predicted to get worse. If alternative is to be single indefinitely I think the dating inside strict class lines is the trend that will be bucked.
/r/seduction22/06/16 05:11 PM
-1

I am older than you and I am professionally employed. I have friends both younger and older than myself, who are both more and less successful than myself. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much to me, and shouldn't mean much to anyone else. You yourself described a shifting landscape in which women are out performing men academically and professionally, this will have pretty major ramifications for dating culture in the long term. It's unlikely that the majority of these well to do women wil…
/r/seduction22/06/16 04:04 PM
-4

edit downvotes for constructively contributing to a conversation while those may disagree with my stance or point of view it's just poor reddiquette. Sad state of this sub. a woman who is a lawyer or accountant will not have anything in common with a guy who is a construction worker that watches pro wrestling and drinks beer with his buddies. This is some generalizing hyperbolic bullshit. People hate to be defined by their professions or their hobbies. These are aspects of a person's life but sa…
/r/seduction22/06/16 03:46 PM
3

He needs to learn the way I learned, from my father, the way he learned, from his father.
/r/seduction26/01/16 06:09 AM
11

especially if they have a boyfriend back home
/r/seduction14/01/16 07:43 AM
7

"I'm, teehee, busyyyyyyy"
/r/seduction09/12/15 11:33 PM
3

Why not? There's a whole lot less pressure if it's done via text. She might say yes in person out of some kind of awkward obligation and then just flake. Same could happen via text but at least there will be less of an incentive for her to try to save face and agree to something she doesn't want to do.
/r/seduction02/12/15 11:31 PM
28

Just scream "better weird than a normie like you!" At the top of your lungs and stomp off angrily, then go play marvel puzzle quest on your phone in the corner.
/r/seduction04/11/15 02:01 AM
2

Lol. What's the world coming to when musicians are coming to seddit for pickup advice?!
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:52 AM
1

In response to Newton and Tesla I believe they are categorically considered asexual which is why they were able to focus 100% on their respective fields of study. As for everyone else in the world that does require human intimacy I believe that actually being the best person you can be is understood to be directed inwardly (hence inner game) and not to be confused with how you are seen by others outwardly. Being the best self you can be, first and foremost to yourself, you will automatically be …
/r/seduction24/08/15 01:02 AM
5

Just prepare for celibacy for your next 4 years. On the bright side both Nikola Tesla and Sir Isaac Newton were virgins and certifiable geniuses, so you've got that going for you which is nice.
/r/seduction23/08/15 12:48 PM
2

Her best friend was/is (idk) in love with her He isn't a best friend.
/r/seduction23/08/15 01:30 AM
3

Do not reference looks at all. If you do you'll be one in a billion more messages that is referencing how she looks. Write an open ended statement about something you relate written in their profile and ask a question about that or something else that stands out to you. Keep it to 2-4 sentences. Keep your expectations low.
/r/seduction11/08/15 06:23 PM
8

You're cool but not my type. LJBF
/r/seduction08/08/15 04:08 AM
3

This does not absolve you from being a decent person
/r/seduction06/08/15 10:01 PM
3

The expensive kind.
/r/seduction04/08/15 03:07 AM
3

You don't "get friendzoned" by a girl who is romantic/sexually attracted to you. You do the friendzoning.
/r/seduction30/07/15 08:42 PM
1

"Should" is the worst way to frame asking a girl out. And following it up with a question is the coup de gras. Instead try: "Let's meet up at [time/place]" Or "You were a lot of fun saturday night at the bar. I'd really like to see you again." And I'm just going to assume you don't use elipses like that. If you do.......No!.......Stop!......Bad!.......
/r/seduction21/07/15 11:21 PM
10

I'd like to meetup in person and talk Sometime's you have to not give a shit where on the cold-needy spectrum you text falls.
/r/seduction05/07/15 08:01 PM
17

You walk over to them and tell them you're a Virgin with a capital V. Then ask if they have any friends that are about 30-40% hotter than them because your head is still in your ass and you think you have the merit to be choosy.
/r/seduction17/06/15 05:58 PM
3

The answer is to just smile more simply because the act of smiling will trick your brain into feeling happy which will cause you to naturally smile more. It will feel alien and weird at first, that will go away over time. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/smile-it-could-make-you-happier/
/r/seduction14/06/15 05:26 AM
0

the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible Which are few and far between.
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:47 PM
4

"Hey, you're such an HB8. I totes gotta bounce now to make my false time constraint seem legit. Lemme #close you so we can bang next time."
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:50 PM
2

I think that no matter how much a girl digs you, if you say something like... I agree with most of this except this statement. There's actually a threshold. It's uncommon but if she's 100% into you then things like this actually wont matter at all. Yes it's important to remain busy and productive and have a social life and not always be available at all hours for anything, but not ever girl will lose interest just because of small nuances like this.
/r/seduction23/08/13 04:36 PM
6

This is a perfect (sitcom) analysis of the theory I've always maintained: If a she likes you whatever you do is seen as sweet/acceptable/desired if she doesn't then the exact same action is creepy. The point being that "creepy" is only ever in the mind of he beholder and shouldn't be something worth considering when determining if you should or shouldn't do something.
/r/seduction12/08/13 12:24 AM
6

You're missing the point. If a woman is giving you attention, then other women notice that. Leverage that, be as open and friendly with her as possible. The seduction advice would be to use her as a pivot to meet other people. Let her positive energy work for you to bring in the positive energy of the women you want to attract whether or not they are her friends or a completely new set. The main problem is you need to stop seeing women as fuckable or not fuckable because the point of socializing…
/r/seduction22/06/13 06:50 PM
15

If a woman approaches you when you're out on the town and you aren't interested because she isn't attractive enough for you that doesn't mean she isn't worth chatting up. You don't know which of her hotter friends are (or aren't) out with her. Just the fact that she's chatting you up while giving off interested vibes and signals is great social proof to other women that can see. And trust me they notice. It immediately makes you the guy with options, which in turn makes you more desirable to oth…
/r/seduction22/06/13 05:15 PM
1

I'm not sure your example really relates to this discussion about seduction. Yes there is "social circle game" but even that doesn't fall into the same category of- So many relationships are created out of friendship whether for years, decades, or months. Anyway, yes you have additional challenges when it comes to dating which I admittedly know very little about. It sounds like what you're suggesting is that a lot of aspects of inner game like frame control don't even come into play when you've …
/r/seduction21/06/13 04:19 PM
1

From which perspective- the relationship seeking male or the uninterested females?
/r/seduction20/06/13 05:39 PM
1

Sounds way too contrived. Texting should sound and feel conversational not scripted. I actually don't like to specifically state who I am up front, though I have seen others suggest this is a good practice. I prefer to play with the air of mystique a bit. Kind of like an off-shoot of the rule where you don't ever tell a woman your name or ask for hers outright, if she's interested and wants to know your name she'll ask. Works exactly the same, and it's basically a default way to gauge basic inte…
/r/seduction20/06/13 10:06 AM
2

Over the past two days, we've had 2 +hour-long FB conversations. Imagine how much more awesome those 2 hour long conversations would have been in person.
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:53 AM
2

Because seeking a relationship out of someone that you haven't even gone on a date with wreaks of neediness. It's unconsciously signaling a lack of experience, which in and of itself is not a manly trait, thus inherently a turn-off for the vast majority of women.
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:50 AM
1

I gave her my Facebook details and she added me instantaneously. Death wish for dating. Never add someone to facebook that you are interested in dating, I would suggest not adding her to facebook even after she becomes your girlfriend but that's more of a case by case basis. I did this a number of times over a week or so to build up an interest... This doesn't build up interest, this kills interest. so at the moment I'm stuck in a stupid limbo You're stuck as "possibly-maybe-but-not-really" guy.…
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:44 AM
5

Call the Girl. ONLY if you want to talk to a voice mail recording. Nobody answers the phone these days.
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:36 AM
1

The insecure ones tend to get wrapped up in thinking like that.
/r/seduction18/06/13 11:55 PM
1

What? Younger people who grew up with IMing being their most prominent form of communication will get offended if you aren't able to continue texting? I call bull. If they even notice that you haven't texted them back between being texted by a million other people most probably won't think twice about it. Most texting is done to create or solidify plans anyway so once that's out of the way any additional texting is superfluous. If you're trying to have long drawn out conversations over text in t…
/r/seduction18/06/13 11:14 PM
2

Whats the purpose of a "goodbye" text. Doesn't make a lick of sense. If you're busy you just don't text. It's not a phone call happening in real time. Texting intrinsically provides leeway for busy schedules. If someone texted me saying that they had to go and could no longer text me for the rest of the day I'd think they just crawled out from under a rock and never saw a piece of technology in their life.
/r/seduction17/06/13 10:22 AM
1

You gotta stick with your lie. If you lie you gotta believe that lie whole heartedly, it becomes the truth for you.
/r/seduction14/06/13 05:50 PM
3

at any point, "Wait." Then, go for the kiss. You don't even have to say anything. Just face her squarely and loosely grab the tips of her fingers while gently pulling her close. After good banter and rapport during a date, under the street lights and stars while walking, during a lull in conversation.
/r/seduction12/06/13 11:29 AM
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I always see insanely good guy to girl ratios at the off-leash dog park near my house. With warm weather during the days there's always a lot of cuties around and the presence of dogs makes everyone super friendly and easy to have a conversation with.
/r/seduction23/05/13 01:04 PM
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If you're both sitting and she's in a chair next to you just grab the back of the chair with one hand and the closest arm of the chair with he other and pull her and the chair as close as you want, preferably as close as possible. This even works especially when the chair makes a loud grinding noise. This simply act is so full of good old fashioned manliness that I've had multiple women tell me they knew they liked me as soon as I did it while on a first date, which for me is the first thing I d…
/r/seduction07/05/13 06:03 PM
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The -close suffix just denotes how an interaction ended. I still think only newbies use these terms but they are ingrained in the seduction community far beyond reddit. Kino has a specific connotation. The term finds its root in kinesthetics which has to do with movement in the body and limbs. Kino itself basically refers to casual/playful touching that gets two strangers warmed up to one another. Touching in America is sort of a different beast. You see most of us grow up in an insular world of…
/r/seduction21/12/12 04:47 AM
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Yes and no. Seduction tools are designed to help you learn how to grow comfortable being yourself in conversation with strangers. The vast majority of boys grow into men that don't think it's ok to express their sexuality and act on sexual/romantic impulses. Seduction counters this but you won't really find success with women until you can actually talk to a woman while being comfortable in your own skin. Seduction is like a stepping stone.
/r/seduction19/12/12 02:20 AM
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If she has a time issue then she'll inform you and you can either choose to be flexible and accommodate her or reschedule or whatever. The point is you are coming off like you're trying to supplicate to her by asking questions and in reality she wants to be led and not have to make any decisions. This sounds chauvinist as fuck but I'm only referring to dating, make sure you respect her independence as a woman outside "the game" or whatever and lead her as a man when it comes to anything revolvin…
/r/seduction14/12/12 11:42 PM
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This shit test came up because of your initial "reminder". You asked her what time she planned to blah blah.. and the point is as the man you make the plans so as to avoid this in the future. Directly tell her what time you are available and if you need to add anything else tell her the time range you expect her to show up. When in doubt remember to NOT ask any questions. By asking a woman questions like that you are giving her wiggle room to end up flaking. If you man up, make the decisions abo…
/r/seduction14/12/12 11:30 PM
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The problem is you and your ego not the try hard friendly people you are meeting.
/r/seduction13/12/12 05:16 PM
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I'm 6'3" and I tend to date women that are between 5'8 and 5'11 so definitely on the taller end of the spectrum. I always love telling them to wear heels when making plans to take them out and usually get good responses for it. Actually come to think of it almost every time I tell a date to wear heels she does. It's essentially a compliance test but one that works so well for me because tall women love to wear heels and still be shorter than their taller date. If a guy tells you to wear heels an…
/r/seduction13/12/12 04:34 AM
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Taking their style will help... He is saying pay attention to your grooming and wear clothes that don't scream out fashion emergency. Make your own style and do it with a bit of understanding about what a well groomed / well dressed man looks like.
/r/seduction13/12/12 12:11 AM
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First of all women tend to be harsh critics, particularly of themselves, so I'll take your self assessment with a grain of salt. Though gotta say.. I'm also curvy and like 5'10". Called it, haha. Own your height and your body type, wear clothes that accentuates these aspects. This might play into the intimidation factor so conversely work on becoming as approachable as possible. On the other hand if a guy won't approach you in heels it's also likely that he wouldn't be the type to make a move re…
/r/seduction12/12/12 11:16 PM
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Here's the thing about using a card. It's great because you seem professional but then you run the risk of giving out too much personal info. It's actually this point that can make it a pretty meaningful gesture, like you trust someone you meet enough to actually let them know your full name and place of employment. And it's also a good sign when you write down your cell number on it too, and I do mean write so maybe consider adding a pen to your purse in lieu of a ketchup or 2. I've never seen …
/r/seduction12/12/12 09:10 PM
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Are you too attractive? like that upper end of the bell curve such that you're seen as unapproachable? If so, smile more. Go the extra mile to seem warm, open, and approachable. Or maybe you're not playing to your strengths enough. If you're tall, wear heels and make eye contact with tall guys above the heads of mere mortals. If you are well endowed curvaciously then don't be shy to wear something that shows off said curves.
/r/seduction12/12/12 09:03 PM
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Simmer down there james
/r/seduction12/12/12 08:59 PM
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any tips to get the guy to take it further? I personally don't think it can be any more obvious than when as woman is touching my chest, it's basically a huge green light especially if the touch lingers while her body is close enough to mine for other parts of our bodies (hips, thighs, etc) to be touching by just standing there. The only other thing that comes to mind is to be blatantly obvious about laughing at his dumb jokes. Well that and cleavage.
/r/seduction12/12/12 08:57 PM
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not using them is more masculine. I agree but without them texting comes off as dry. For example cocky/funny style humor via text w/o smiley or winkey emoticons can come off as just plain arrogant. Personally I get better responses when using emoticons. On the flipside, the "alpha" argument can also be used to defend emoticons on the basis of not giving a fuck what seems more or less masculine.
/r/seduction12/12/12 11:04 AM
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Make a point to say someone's name 3 times during the first conversation you have with with them and it'll be far more likely to stick. An easy way to do it for me is to talk about how nobody ever remembers names on the first try, you can even bring up the 3-times rules as a point if you can't think of another excuse to say that person's name.
/r/seduction11/12/12 04:42 PM
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Only if you follow up that statement with your best end-zone dance.
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:22 PM
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why the hell she would drop a creep bomb on that. Well yeah, hence why I think it was more of a shit test. I was just trying to keep the post as anonymous as possible. It didn't even cross my mind that withholding that small detail would cause such an uproar.
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:19 PM
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Answered
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:16 PM
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Not it's the latter but if you're still wondering I answered the question at hand in this comment.
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:14 PM
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Hah, ok fine. I was referring to legs, and I said something to the effect of thinking long legs were sexy. It's a pretty innocuous statement that must have triggered her memory of dating some gibbroni that fetishized feet. I never mentioned feet nor toes and it was her that eventually brought it up and even conceded the point of it being in her own head. I'm almost certain that she tossed out the creep-bomb as a test to see how I would handle it. Moral of the story is unless you're John Waters c…
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:10 PM
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Because it's irrelevant to the story or any discussion I wanted to have about it. It's just placating peoples' curiosity for no real reason. If you want to learn to be good with women you need to know how to keep that mysterious vibe alive.
/r/seduction07/12/12 04:38 PM
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Maybe it's your approach?
/r/seduction07/12/12 01:50 AM
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Your negative response actually makes you creepy because you're essentially validating the statement made against you.
/r/seduction07/12/12 01:42 AM
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Haha I read that article you linked and I know a guy like that. Well not quite like that but basically every time he and I hit the town ladies are opening him and falling all over themselves just to give him their number. It's a wacko world we live in bud, but here's the thing you can't let yourself be your worst enemy. Plenty of women will absolutely be unavailable to you if your looks are sub-par, but not all women and not by a long shot. You have to adopt the attitude of not giving a fuck abo…
/r/seduction07/12/12 01:39 AM
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I wasn't referring to feet or foot fetish but.. previously she had dated a guy that fetishized that part of the female body ..nail on the head regarding the above.
/r/seduction06/12/12 11:39 PM
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I haven't seen it but I heard lots about Pitts performance in Moneyball. Also Fight Club. It's not so much about getting into the mindset of pickup as getting into the mindset of an alpha male.
/r/seduction16/10/12 09:10 PM
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hah. Actually what I said was unrequited love is not the same as real romantic love. I posed the question about love regarding sex which nobody seemed to answer, though I did not myself make a judgement on it.
/r/seduction15/03/12 06:45 AM
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How do you know if you love her. You don't know her completely, at best you know her well as a friend. Can you love someone you've never had sex with? What if you are completely sexually incompatible, would you still be in love with her? Unrequited love is the only love that you can have for her currently and that is not real romantic love, which can only be expressed mutually by two people. There's also polyamory which is what "And I'm actually in love with her now as much as I've been in love …
/r/seduction13/03/12 09:20 AM
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How did the date go? Was it really a bad date or was the date itself fine just with no kiss. After a potentially bad date, what do you do next? You can text her, but if she doesn't respond you can expect that she lost interest. Don't beat yourself up over anything, like you said bad dates are just learning experiences. Then you find someone new to go on a date with, there's billions of women out there.
/r/seduction13/03/12 09:00 AM
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Adds a whole new context to the 6 degrees game.
/r/seduction13/03/12 08:55 AM
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Try to be extremely lenient in what answers you want your ideal match to select. Check off more than one box for their answers, you can check off all answers but 1 and still select the importance level. Best to just be completely indifferent to their answers in as many questions as possible. Then find a few questions that really matter to you and be more strict in how you answer and how much those questions matter to you. Cast a wide net.
/r/seduction13/03/12 08:36 AM
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Ask if she has any single friends.
/r/seduction10/03/12 11:23 PM
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She asked my plans for the weekend and told her I was busy. FTFY
/r/seduction09/03/12 09:47 PM
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"Don't text me" definitely comes from anger. She clearly likes you which is why I don't think you should wait. Waiting makes it seem more calculated, the alternative being more genuine. Afterall, if you had feelings for her you wouldn't want to wait and let her lose any feelings she may have for you, or worse transfer them onto someone else. My point being that if you make no more moves, then you've lost her. You can wait until her anger subsides but that may not help you because she will have s…
/r/seduction09/03/12 09:31 PM
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It's not too late for the hail mary text. You can still send her something along the lines of: If you can't handle casually dating someone who has options then I respect your need to bow out before things get emotionally charged. Which may get her to reconsider her position since you guys have obviously not committed to one another.
/r/seduction09/03/12 09:11 PM
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"Whoa whoa whoa. Are you trying to have 'the talk' with me? Look, I'm very flattered that you want to have me as a boyfriend but I'm not exactly ready to settle down just yet. If you can't handle casually dating someone who has options then I respect your need to bow out before things get emotionally charged." This would be my response verbatim.
/r/seduction09/03/12 07:44 PM
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just act confident and do whatever I would do if she never had flaked in the first place. This is exactly right. It also depends on the flake. Did she flake by not returning 1 text? 10 texts? Did she flake on a date? Stand you up w/o even a warning? Differing situations call for different strategies. If it was just a text or phone call flake then ignore it and proceed. If she flaked on a date w/o offering a reschedule that's usually a sign of disinterest and best to move on because its not worth…
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:42 PM
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Ok this may sound off the wall but I would suggest looking into ways to increase your testosterone levels. Don't eat soy (at all, especially processed soy like tofu), don't keep wireless devices near your crotch, spend more time outside even if its as minimal as a walk around the block but exercise in general helps. When you begin to stress yourself out take some deep breaths, when you feel emotions getting out of control focus on the breathing to calm yourself down and center yourself in the pr…
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:35 PM
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Your opening should be no more than 4 sentences and often 2 is just fine. I like to ask a question even if it is open ended or teasing rhetorical question because I like to prompt women to respond, otherwise they tend to not go out of their way to continue correspondence. It's always a good idea to comment on one of their pictures and (or) to comment on something they wrote in their profile. Do not compliment them based on their picture, but instead compliment or relate to information they've gi…
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:24 PM
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I'm starting to think all the phone talking and text chatting is fuel for the friendzone.
/r/seduction07/03/12 06:17 PM
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Thing is.. if you wanted to get a date out of her you should have stopped earlier. Staying on the phone/online chatting for hours is something that friends do. The clincher is you actually refused when she wanted to come over and jump your bones. Boggles the mind.
/r/seduction07/03/12 06:12 PM
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It sounds more like anti-attachment defense. She already slept with you so the slut judgement is basically meaningless, which is to say that either someone will judge her a slut for sleeping with you or not but regardless the deed is done. At this point she prob asked about you hooking up with other women to gauge your investment. Not every woman will be interested in MLTRs and it's likely that she, herself, has a FWB already on the side. Assuming she doesn't need another and doesn't see you as …
/r/seduction28/02/12 04:36 PM
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What? My name is... Who? My name is... wika wika Slim Shady
/r/seduction26/02/12 10:43 PM
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Creepy is an adjective that only exists in the mind of the perceiver and not at all in the mind of the perceived. That is to say, none of this is creepy. Is it creepy to spend 2 hrs a day at the gym improving oneself? Is it creepy to read Tolstoy or Kafka or take classes in another language in hopes to expand ones mind? What makes the deliberate attempt to become more successful with women creepy to you? Is it the fact that there is lingo surrounding it, or stories of successes, or the knowledge…
/r/seduction26/02/12 04:38 PM
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My game got so much better once I started understanding the importance of body language and all non-verbal communication. Of course you don't want to be in an analytical mindset forcing yourself to be removed from the actual interaction when trying to hit on women, but understanding what you are seeing/hearing beyond the words is clutch.
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:23 PM
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Here's a shit ton of evidence that is completely applicable to seduction. I found this video through seddit so props to whichever sedditor posted it originally.
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:17 PM
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Meh.. its pretty obvious to almost anyone with any degree of social aptitude that "The Game" isn't meant to be regurgitated with canned material in lieu of having a real conversation and real connection. What all the techniques are great for is to get guys that otherwise would be paralyzed by fear to take action and get out there. That said there are concepts that are great through lines and extremely helpful to just about anyone hoping to get better with women.. stuff like the importance of all…
/r/seduction24/02/12 07:49 AM
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Came across this somewhere on seddit.. definitely hits home with what you were saying: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/193591/forum • Making ALL of the decisions - ALL OF THEM • Being that calmness whenever she becomes emotional • Having CONTROL over YOUR emotions • Being a clean, well-organized, physically and mentally fit Man • Planning
/r/seduction24/02/12 07:32 AM
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I wasn't saying she was, just kinda talking on the idea oneitis/crush. so maybe ask her to show me around her room? Do no ask her this, at least until sufficient comfort and attraction is developed. You live in the same dorm as her, you don't need her to show you around the floor she lives on. Just go up there, check it out for yourself, and talk to the other folk that live up there. This also gives yourself the opportunity to casually run into her and also allows you to talk about the dorm, see…
/r/seduction24/02/12 07:21 AM
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The idea is simply not to get so caught up in the belief that one specific person could mean so much to you that you start to suffer when you don't get the kind of attention from her that you want. Don't let yourself get caught up in the mental fantasy of how awesome it would be to date this girl at the cost of actually taking action and making it a reality. Next time you see her make a point on engaging her in convo, and within that convo make a point of setting up some kind of hangout. If she'…
/r/seduction23/02/12 11:46 PM
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I never even heard of her (I don't follow celebritae) before reading this thread earlier and then did a google search. But here is why she in particular may be a good candidate specifically other than being requested or mentioned by other sedditors specifically: Sasha Grey transcended (or is in the process of) from porn star to hollywood. This alone is something most porn stars couldn't hope to do and takes one helluva frame control. On the issue of transcendence many sedditors may hope to gain …
/r/seduction23/02/12 12:05 AM
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Californication is solid gold in terms of seduction/pick-up relevance in TV. Regarding Sasha Grey- I would be fascinated in an AMA from a woman who could provide good insight into the minds of women like you suggest. In my own experience, however, I have never met a woman capable of giving good advice about women/dating/seduction. Get a woman talking about sex though, that is a completely different story. Perhaps the angle for the Sasha Grey AMA could be more focused on escalation and, getting e…
/r/seduction22/02/12 06:55 PM
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Personally Sasha Daygame's day-game :p is right up my alley. His natural style is how I am when I am in state, and I've never been good with the canned routines and indirect stuff so I'm really stoked on this AMA. I have no idea what Sasha Grey contributed to the pick-up community as I try to avoid hollywood trends and prefer Mark Wahlberg Talks To Animals over Entourage.
/r/seduction22/02/12 06:15 PM
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There's a How I Met Your Mother episode where Ted has a first date with a girl he had a first date with 7 years earlier and she doesn't remember him at all. Definitely hits home with what you're saying.
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:46 PM
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This is going into the mental inventory.
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:42 PM
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"Whoa you got a dirty mind. Who said anything about sex." or "We'll see"
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:41 PM
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From the sounds of it I got the gist that he isn't worrying so much about the techniques because he basically just sets himself up to have as much fun with whomever he is hanging out with. Basically like a true natural. With his confident and genuine style creating little pockets of explosive fun for the women he's with. The mechanics of indirect game cease being an issue because being self-amusing to the extent he is demonstrates value while building comfort and attraction all together. The who…
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:25 PM
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The beauty is they don't even have to be words that consistently form a sentence, or even words from the same language, or species for that matter!
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:24 PM
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There's a youtube vid where James Marshall is interviewing Sasha, he basically says he averages 2~3 mins in a day game set.
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:15 PM
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"I don't do maybes" "I like a girl that can make a decision" "Seems to me that maybe pretty much always means no" <-- dont use that one
/r/seduction21/02/12 08:53 PM
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AKA surf reddit for an hour errday.
/r/seduction20/02/12 06:27 AM
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"That guy really had the hots for you. Some sort of stalker Ex?" Don't come off as jealous or too interested. This is an interesting sticking point for me. How does one come off as disinterested while asking anything of this sort. True disinterest would manifest in not caring at all, and moving on either with seduction or with a different woman.
/r/seduction19/02/12 04:17 PM
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I wasn't getting many signals to get physical. This is kind of like saying "I couldn't see whether the traffic light was green or red from the parking lot." You gotta start the engine and hit the gas before you can see signals. I can't help but feel some solid social circle game would have helped a lot. Something like ignoring her completely, only talking to her friends, and then getting up to dance with someone else in the bar. Just because you got to the bar with a group of people doesn't mean…
/r/seduction19/02/12 04:09 PM
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Being a kind or generous person with a positive outlook on life is not the same thing as a "Nice Guy". "Am I only being nice as a means to achieve an end?" Most AFCs can't honestly answer yes to this question. The whole "Nice Guy" trope is as fallacy. That's why it's easier to understand the mindset when you think of it in terms of frustration. "Nice Guys" are just normal dudes who are neither socially skilled enough nor confident enough in their own sexuality to evoke the reaction they want out…
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:09 PM
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The awkwardness is most likely your own perception. Women are pretty dissociative so if she remembers you at all it will be in context of the music not any awkwardness. The rule of thumb with mistakes and goofs or awkwardness is don't give a fuck. It happened, move on. Pay it no mind. If she brings it up just say you were busy and maintain a positive mindset.
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:46 AM
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How Do You "Not Care" Getting rejected a lot helps. Develop that thick skin. Rejection is the pavement on the road of abundance.
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:39 AM
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This is such detrimental and fallacious reasoning. Detrimental because it in no way helps anyone to become a better person, a better socializer, or better at seduction. In reality, fucking a chick with a condom on makes you no more alpha than if you would have stayed at home asleep or baking a cake. Lolwut. Having a large family doesn't make a man an alpha, it just makes him a father. If every father throughout human history was an alpha male then humanity would never have developed society, par…
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:34 AM
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This is something you learn with experience. If you feel like closing the personal space gap, then do it. If she reacts adversely like stumbling over herself to keep the distance, then clearly she isn't that into you or just isn't that good at socializing. The general rule of thumb is 2 or 3 feet is a comfortable distance for casual interactions, and anything closer starts to enter seduction territory. These 2 seddit threads deal with exactly what you are hoping to learn. Hope this helps! http:/…
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:23 AM
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Holy shit. Reminds me of the crazy shroomin German hottie
/r/seduction18/02/12 12:13 AM
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Yeah that part was quite enlightening.
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:50 PM
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I do to women exactly what most women do to men. That is, if I'm not interested in a friendship I will just stop contacting them back. Nothing comes across with more clarity than indifference.
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:47 PM
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"Thanks" with a confident and genuine smile. Avoid the counter-compliment and trying (hard) to be impressive. Ask if they play music, or what their favorite bands are. If they want to hear you play more they'll ask for another song "What else do you know.. do you have any original songs?" Let them ask for it, you're trying to converse not entertain. Change the subject to pretty much anything. Seriously anything, think what you would do/say if a good guy friend randomly saw you playing, stopped t…
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:42 PM
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For the future, make an effort to get to know the friends.. then invite them all to the after party. If anything you can get them high and feed them pizza. Go for the gold! (warning this vid is shyte quality but still classic.)
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:31 PM
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Jealousy is a powerful emotion.
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:27 PM
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A friendly face is a dead give away. Disinterest may come in the form of a scrunched up nose, or turning away and backing off. It's really a no-brainer. Just think of how you feel when you are being approached by a friend from across a large room vs how you feel when being approached by a homeless begging for money. Generally most people are willing to talk if you aren't seeking something from them. If their only investment is a conversation, most people are more than happy to chat. If they aren…
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:13 PM
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Seduction is generally more useful when starting a long term relationship rather than in the midst of one. The bits about becoming a true alpha male, being the master of your own sexuality.. these are inner game belief structures that shouldn't be left behind when in a relationship. These are through-lines for life, not just seduction/pick-up.
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:05 PM
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But playful teasing can still be a fun way to keep a flirty vibe throughout an LTR.
/r/seduction17/02/12 11:03 PM
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weedy awkward teenage boy with 1 child There is nothing alpha male about this supposed person. Maybe to his baby mama and his baby he is an alpha male, but to society and the rest of the world including his own parents and friends he is just another fuck up. Alpha, as it applies to seduction, is a state of mind. It is the outward projection of your own self worth. When you see people on seddit talking about being alpha, they are talking about behaving in a way that an alpha male would behave.. n…
/r/seduction17/02/12 10:51 PM
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You should be having the conversations you had during the 200 daily texts in person. If you would have insisted on making her meet you in person to get to know you that well then you would have build far more attraction. Being that available to her texts is extremely poor game. We learn the hard way. Pace your texts, do not reply to her more than once an hour.. which seems like it will be more applicable to the next one. I learned this the hard way too. I dated a girl who could have become my wi…
/r/seduction17/02/12 02:56 AM
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Taking things slow is an indication that she views you as bf material. This may please you of course but you have to remember that as the man you lead the interaction. Taking things slow, in my own personal experience, is a death sentance. It's something I personally refuse to do because by default you are giving up the job of leading the interaction. You might ask her, "have you ever started a meaningful relationship by taking things slow?" The answers vary from person to person but in my own e…
/r/seduction17/02/12 02:45 AM
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Free? Hardly. $12K is not free. The only thing that might be considered free is the instructors' time.. which they value collectively at $150K. This sounds amazing, if you can take the time off work or school and have the living and traveling expenses taken care of. Definitly not free though.
/r/seduction17/02/12 12:51 AM
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Pua brightons post on the front page today about assumption covers this concept with more depth and clarity, I highly suggest reading it.
/r/seduction16/02/12 05:13 PM
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Your first problem there is you are allowing youtself to think about it at all. You pump your brain with thoughts of doubt, that doubt is written on your face, expressed through your body language, and shown through your tone of voice. The words are inconsequential. You shut yourself down before any woman has the oppertunity. Working on positive reinforcement. Instead of mentally doubting yourself try to mentally reinforce positivity. Think "this chick is all about me, she wants me" and walk ove…
/r/seduction16/02/12 04:51 PM
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Isn't that more useful in a situation where you don't know anyone? Watch out who you use it on and how many times you use it on otherwise you'll quickly become the perv everyone's trying to avoid.
/r/seduction03/02/12 05:42 PM
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I like this notion, it follows through with a lot of other concepts on game. Specifically re-framing negative things that we think we have no control over into into something that we do have control over.
/r/seduction02/02/12 04:50 PM
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You can't lose a friend you never had. She lost his attention, not his friendship. There is a big difference. The OP never gave his friendship- he offered her romantic/sexual attention, she countered with only offering the platonic side of herself, OP ended the interaction. Nothing wrong with that, definitely no reason to be ashamed of anything.
/r/seduction29/01/12 05:03 PM
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If all you do is let her know that you're physically attracted then you are doing it wrong, kinda. This can become a turn-off if you fail to establish rapport and eventually down the line fail to build comfort. Direct and open intention is a great component of pick-up/seduction but it is not the only component by a long shot. You only ever need to tell a woman once, from then on she'll know you want her. Continuing to do so is pulling too much w/o pushing. You need both to build sexual tension p…
/r/seduction28/01/12 05:01 PM
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You are just calibrating to this particular girl. There is nothing set in stone about the number of dates acceptable. The idea is just to always escalate. Have you gone further (even if slightly) with her on every encounter? She is probably letting things move as slowly to build up your desire to date her rather than just have a romp. If you move too fast for her she may lose interest, if she moves too slow you will lose interest. Just find the middle ground and go see her on sunday because it s…
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:54 PM
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Give them a pet name. It'll stick mentally, they'll love it. Alternately I would make a joke out of forgetting a name. Do something along the lines of This after obviously forgetting it.
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:40 PM
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Gotcha, so really the best advice would be to not get discouraged and keep up the high energy and good times. Eventually you will get better at spotting signals, and you'll stop focusing mental energy on looking for them. Still try to pace the kiss a bit for now, isolating will help you get that pacing down.
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:35 PM
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I have always struggled with meditation. Maybe it is a hurdle I should look into overcoming. Thanks, great summation!
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:23 PM
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INTRA-VAGINA. It's like a series of tubes.
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:58 AM
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This all sounds great. Pace the kiss more that's all. Isolate, pull the one that danced best off the dance floor. Chat her up, then go for the kiss. Think of the kiss as the reward you give to the most awesome girl you meet that night, not as something you are trying to extract from them. It starts to become borderline desperate if you try to smooch every single girl that dances with you. And of course the one with the bf wasn't going to give it up in front of her classmates if that were true.
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:01 AM
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It sounds like what might have shook your frame was the reaction of the girl when you claimed she was yours.
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:30 AM
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Take it to the extreme. Joke with her about how your intentions are to marry her, keep her barefoot and pregnant, pop out a dozen babies, and start your own child labor colony. Or turn it sexual.. you intend to tie her down. Ask her how she feels about leather zipper masks. Of course all of this is with a complete asshole smile/grin. You're joking with her of course, and she'll be well aware. It's gotta be funny to think how easily that simple question shook the awkward right out of you. Shit te…
/r/seduction28/01/12 02:20 AM
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Touch her. Then touch her some more. Touch her on her back casually. Make up reasons to grab her hand and caress it. Don't to it for too long, but then touch her again somewhere else. Playfully tickle her knees, then stop and talk with your hands. Eventually she will start to crave it. And when she starts touching you back you'll know she is starting to feel comfortable. My favorite thing is to play hand games. By this I'm referring to grabbing the tips of her fingers with the tips of yours and …
/r/seduction27/01/12 09:00 PM
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Wear a mini-skirt with no panties. Drop everything around him, have a total blonde-clutz day. Make sure he sees your ass sticking out each time you bend over. Laugh at yourself for being such a clutz.. "I don't know whats with me today!" seriously laugh about it, and bend over a lot. Have a good time with it, smile a lot. Call him dirty when you catch him checking him out. Let him escalate, your job is just to tease, and do it relentlessly. Don't talk about sex at all, let him think he's bringin…
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:46 PM
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To be honest it sounds like there was not much of a connection made and you might want to gain some rapport with her before telling her to go to a concert. Being direct, confident, and even aggressive is good but there has to be some kind of established familiarity before she will just let you lead her around. I would suggest phrasing a text more like: "Hey whats up. I'm going to so-and-so concert @ 3 with some friends, I'd love it if you joined us. It's free so invite a friend too." You're givi…
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:39 PM
2

I have struggled with molls in the same way. It's a double edged sword. You have to understand what is happening in your brain chemically to really understand why you feel invincible, completely positive, and fearless. Your brain is overflowing with serotonin, all the reserves that you have already produced and stored hit your brain at once. In a sense it is possible to reach this state by learning how to make yourself happy at will, to truly feel happy, and learn to mentally pull yourself up fr…
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:19 PM
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This is good. So what steps do you take mentally to keep yourself from enjoying things too much?
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:07 PM
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Your example is on one far end of the spectrum. I mean more along the lines of when you've got a woman in your lap, in a private location, and you know things are going where you want them to. Her willingness to let you sexually escalate can be seen as a form of validation, she is sexually attracted, willing, and often eager if things have gone well during attraction and comfort etc. For me, I'm not focused on what steps I need to accomplish to get her naked and in my bed, I'm enjoying the proce…
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:03 PM
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Because creepy is not a thing. Women who call men creepy are the equivalent to a guy who gets rejected and then calls girls sluts. Wow, never seen it put so succinctly. I will be borrowing this from now on. Thanks!
/r/seduction26/01/12 09:21 PM
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That's when you tell her you were spelling it with a PH.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:30 PM
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This is exactly right.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:28 PM
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or pointed out how skinny I am as a negative The thing is the negativity is only in the OP mind because he cares about his body image. This could have just as easily been a compliment. "You're skinny." "Thanks."
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:27 PM
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Yea the delivery was a little too 1940s stand-up.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:25 PM
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If you say this and she's a redditor you might get to bang her on the spot!
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:24 PM
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Always use their lines on them. Turn anything they say on its head, turn everything back on them. They love verbal games like that.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:22 PM
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If you want to get slapped, this is a good one.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:21 PM
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Ignore her attempt at a neg, and keep talking about anything else. Maintain your frame, if she says something you don't like do not respond to it, don't even blink. She will see the reaction on your face and it doesn't matter what you say because she'll see she found something that got to you.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:19 PM
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But we've made out just friends don't make out.
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:15 PM
1

I always say that I'm picky, and most girls don't measure up. This seems to really fire them up.
/r/seduction24/01/12 12:59 PM
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I gotcha, so really it was just kind of incongruent since you didn't connect with the friends that much. Personally I think it's rude to just walk off like that even though it kind of does feel bad ass. Shrug off her neg, which was pretty clever I might add, then just keep making out, or go grab more drinks, or do your thing. No reason to let our egos blindside us.
/r/seduction21/01/12 11:45 PM
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This is really her problem and her decision. The only way you can convince a woman to leave someone she is already with is by being a better man, and offering her more fun, security, comfort, and ultimately love. You can only lead down the path of a decision but you can not make that decision for her. Your job is to ignore the fact that there is anyone else in either of your lives when you are spending time with her. Make her treasure the time she spends with you above all else and she will make…
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:07 PM
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She identified you as a player, simple as that. The fact that you ended the interaction and left confirmed her suspicions. She's obviously intelligent (PhD) and experienced in life (being a mom). It sounds like you didn't really try to get to know her or her friends much at all, aka she preemptively stopped her friends from cockblocking you. Did you really think she would go back to her group of friends and pull them back to the house of the random bar dude she had been making out with? Not unle…
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:02 PM
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I think of this as a compatability issue. You will eventually meet someone who's mind works in a similar capacity to yours, and the click will be amazing. Think of anyone else who can't keep up as a slowpoke who needs to do some mental aerobics on their own.
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:49 PM
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"Not going to tell on me.." That's solid gold right there. Thx friend!
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:16 PM
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Best successes I've had are by playfully teasing one of their pictures and referencing it. Then make sure to ask a question that can at least be expanded upon. Hey what's up. You must change your hair faster than Ramona from Scott Pilgrim, which is your favorite color to show off? I feel like there should be a t-rex emerging in the background of your zion pic. I was compelled to tell you this to save your life. Stay perfectly still, they can only detect movement. OH SHIT ITS A VELOCIRAPTOR, RUN!
/r/seduction20/01/12 10:00 PM
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some unsolicited okc profile pointers: -nix the: "I'm confident, I'm funny" you can't tell people this stuff and expect them to believe it. This can only be shown and from the small sample of your profile that I see you are neither confident nor funny. You start out with a justification "I figure your reading this because... so I might as well..." This is boring and comes off as self-conscious. To be quite honest I find it hard to believe any girl would read past this first paragraph. -nix the: …
/r/seduction20/01/12 09:55 PM
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link?
/r/seduction10/12/11 03:21 PM
1

Cant-stanz-ya!
/r/seduction10/12/11 03:13 PM
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I feel like this has to be said: don't shit where you eat. You are all caught up in your semi-emotional attachment to this 1 particular guy because you happen to see him all too often. Take that pent up frustration and focus it into being more social with men outside of work. Sure all the advice here to actually go approach this guy and talk to him is great, but it likely won't solve the real problem in your life which is detrimental self-image and lack of social interaction. Go talk to the guy …
/r/seduction10/12/11 03:09 PM
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Attraction is universal but instead of universally applying to male or female only the rules actually apply to pursuer vs pursued. Obviously there are differences in what men and women want out of interactions / relationships but the rules of attraction are.. rules.
/r/seduction10/12/11 03:04 PM
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If a girl says she "needs to talk to you", but then it ends up being something really stupid like "I don't know what colour to dye my hair", then she probably chickened out of telling you she likes you. "We need to talk." Nothing good has ever followed the statement.
/r/seduction04/12/11 09:13 PM
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You want to get to know her better because you are attracted to her. Doesn't the mindset of most women straight off the bat counter this? ...like the notion of giving a complement that is about their personality opposed to their looks.
/r/seduction04/12/11 09:07 PM
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I think she's trying to play the jealousy card. He made her laugh, and thus is always in her thoughts. She's trying to get you to entertain her more during work.. you might have good rapport but she might be just looking for something to help the work hours pass quicker. If you supplicate to her and continue to play "her game" then things may not work out the way you want. Change things up, stop talking to her at all then ask her out to happy hour and keep her laughing the whole time if you do m…
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:27 PM
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Yeah sounds like it's time to call her out on it. I would have done it a long time ago. I feel like that is setting up boundaries, and is applicable to friendships as well as pickup. When calling her out on it don't offer your version of what might be the case "..you guys hook up before" that will definitely reveal your hand. Instead, just call her out on it and see where she takes it. "You talk about that guy so much I'm sure you want to have 500 of his babies!" or just "Wow, I really feel like…
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:03 PM
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Hey Sleiveen, I know nobody likes a no-it-all so let me be the first to admit that the perspective I've presented is all based on conjecture. Obviously I don't know you, her, or the situation beyond what you've told us. That said, you probably are too close to the situation to really see things and I'm trying to help you out by offering some alternate perspective so that you actually CAN claim to have learned something from this community as a result of these experiences beyond the notion that i…
/r/seduction03/08/11 04:40 PM
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It appears you've misunderstood my point by focusing on the minutia of my words. Just because I wrote the word "value" doesn't mean I was inherently claiming that all (or even any) self-righteous princesses are deserving of it. I was merely pointing out the perspective she and the mutual friends would likely take with regards to worth / value. My point was that by throwing in the towel early because of apparent impatience the OP lost, assuming the goal is sex of course (which seems to be the cas…
/r/seduction03/08/11 04:30 AM
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Having known and dated Russians, Jews, and JAPs- I can definitely relate to your story. I looked through your previous posts that were linked, several threads deep to get an idea of the situation and I feel that the most telling part was where you posted an email correspondence that seemed like it was one of the final straws. It's very common for that particular demographic to play up the spoiled princess bit- and the problem is that if they don't get away with it with one dude, they can always …
/r/seduction03/08/11 02:07 AM
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By dumping her after 2 months because she didn't give it up you've unwittingly proved her right and she's thanking herself for holding out on you. Do you really think your mutual friends didn't warn her that you are a player?
/r/seduction03/08/11 12:49 AM
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Also, given the chance for sex you'd be doing yourself a favor to put yourself out there and let him know that while you aren't looking for a long term committed relationship you aren't looking for a one night fling either and that you aren't interested if he's just going to turn you into a belt notch.
/r/seduction02/08/11 10:31 PM
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Hey awesome, glad to help. Hope things work out the way you'd like & would love to hear a follow up later.
/r/seduction02/08/11 10:25 PM
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All those female friends were trying to live vicariously through the JAP-HB as she tamed the alpha wolf so to speak. They kept in touch with you long enough to see your pua lifestyle left behind for this most amazing of female specimen. I wonder what made all those other women so enthralled with this one- Is it looks alone? Personality? She must be very picky with men, I wonder if those mutual friends were working her over as much as they were working on you.
/r/seduction02/08/11 09:54 PM
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haha i suck at poetry. =D
/r/seduction02/08/11 09:34 PM
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I'm just using the term "trashing" loosely the describe walking on someone else's feelings and potentially driving a wedge between him and his other friend. I mean really, how'd you like it if one of your girlfriends asked you to drinks this weekend and when you show up she's sitting on this guys lap.. only to later found out they met through YOUR facebook profile. And all because he wants you to see what you're missing by not pursuing him harder. In short, yes if you are trying to actually get …
/r/seduction02/08/11 09:27 PM
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how is that advice helpful? are you actually looking to make this guy feel crappy or looking to get his attention. You said yourself you already have plenty of cool guys you're interested in sleeping with, why go out of your way to contribute to someone else's dissatisfaction? It doesn't sound like you plan to turn around and give him another shot once you've made him realize what he's missing. Honestly, it sounds like he may not be as good a pua as you think he might be. You might just be over …
/r/seduction02/08/11 07:05 PM
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This is such self-fulfilling bullshit. Go ahead and remove ALL responsibility from the seducer. Sure it wasn't his fault he opened the girl, and run a bunch of game on her knowing which kind of unconscious ques to hit an that she will succumb to her feelings and whims of that interaction. Afterall it was her choice to cheat on the other guy, not your choice. But wasn't it your choice to approach? To run the boyfriend destroyers? To take her bra off? Get the fuck over yourself. This mantra that t…
/r/seduction02/08/11 04:59 PM
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Seems like what is up in the air is your definition of "quality". Maybe by quality you mean "extremely hot and very fuckable women" will have their bench lined up when going from relationship to relationship. This is no surprise, its a common practice with women because they have the luxury as the pursued. That doesn't make them quality, to some men that behavior lowers her value. What does it say about someone who is unwilling to be single even for a second between parnters/boyfriends? If flipp…
/r/seduction02/08/11 04:51 PM
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I saw this in a movie trailer for a movie I never saw: "To people who make toasts!" it stuck with me cause it caught me off guard and always seems to illicit a chuckle from friends / dates. Also the movie "I hope they serve beer in hell" has a metric ton of great toasts if you like toasting in iambic pentameter. edit: here it is Here is to the people we've met And to the people we've fucked And to those of us with no such luck. Here's to beer in the glass and vodka in the cup Here's to poking he…
/r/seduction02/08/11 04:24 PM
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yeah this one confuses me. I've got that big smiley on the receipt from waitresses who I flirted with and some that I haven't. I assume that servers bubbly enough to banter with patrons are also the type to leave a smiley face for bigger tip. I tend to overly-disregard something like this because it seems to me more often than not it's just a friendly gesture and has nothing to do with real interest, but I'm known to be wrong.
/r/seduction02/08/11 04:21 PM
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Everything man has ever made existed in one's imagination first.
/r/seduction25/05/11 01:05 AM
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Thanks! Even if this one doesn't work out I'm still gonna look to DAE for text quips. Great idea. =)
/r/seduction25/05/11 01:04 AM
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You're right, I won't keeping saying sorry. I've given her the opportunity to accept my apology and let us work things out. So far she does not seem interested in anything other than moving on. I'm not sure how it'll go when I try get a hold of her in a week or two. I'll just be casual and present her the opportunity to spark something up again. If she is unresponsive or just flat out passes on me then I'll recognize it's time to move on too. We had 2 dates, a hand full of phone conversations. I…
/r/seduction24/05/11 08:32 PM
1

eh?
/r/seduction24/05/11 06:51 PM
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What about all the success stories of men using PU to re-kindle romances with ex-wives? Point 2 is spot on. Well stated. My thought falls into the camp of: Disagreements are bound to happen. The most successful relationships are those where people can disagree, can fight, and can still appreciate one another after settling the argument. Going to hell and back with someone usually makes us emerge stronger. I wouldn't suggest that this is bound to happen again in the future though. It was a misund…
/r/seduction24/05/11 12:18 AM
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Thanks! This is what I'm trying to foster. I really hope she sees my current humility as a character strength, despite other character flaws already being present. Nobody is perfect and she herself has already shown me flaws, none of which were game-enders only because of how she eventually dealt with it. I am capable of looking past rude behavior so long as the person recognizes their fault and makes steps to be better in the future. She was rude to me on the phone at one point (separate circum…
/r/seduction24/05/11 12:14 AM
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I've tried. At this point she is unresponsive to me save for a few "Good bye" type responses. I completely agree about relationship advice not being so spot on from the PU community. Then again this isn't a relationship yet. I was hoping for some magic technique that would shatter her defense and get her to feel towards me what she let herself feel when things were working out between us. There is no magic technique, I'll giving her time and space now that I've expressed my apology. Reminds me o…
/r/seduction24/05/11 12:07 AM
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I think it came from a lack of game. I don't think she was trying to play me but just gave me the impression I got because of being an insecure woman who has never really had a successful, meaningful relationship. She was being distant but inadvertently made me feel like she was only mildly interested. If I had been given the impression that it was intentional I would have definitely been out much sooner.
/r/seduction24/05/11 12:02 AM
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Clutch advice. I've made my case to her. A pretty strong one at that. Best to let it sink in. I like to believe forgiveness is one of the higher functions of humanity. . . not everyone has the capacity.
/r/seduction23/05/11 11:04 PM
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Too much of PU is focused on the lay as the end goal. That's not my focus. The connection is what I'm after, and this can still occur despite fuck ups. People fuck up all the time. It's really a shame that we live in a consumer culture that prizes the mindset of "newer is better" and "never bother putting any work into someone or something. If it doesn't work out right now find a new fill_in_the_blank" (woman, job, car, computer, life)
/r/seduction23/05/11 11:02 PM
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We had plans for friday. They were bumped to sunday night, then bumped to sunday lunch. I should have cancelled lunch prior-to and moved the date to a point after I leveled off. I thought "It's just lunch, what could happen." I had been given the distinct impression that she was keeping me around on the back burner while feeding me lines to make me think she was interested just in case something with some imaginary "other dude" didn't work out. According to her there was no other dude. Over the …
/r/seduction23/05/11 10:57 PM
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Only time? As in "nothing I do or say at this point will help" ?
/r/seduction23/05/11 10:45 PM
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Good point. By default, would you say your natural reaction to a 1 word reply is to put the phone down and do something else? Best to just have a zero tolerance policy?
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:05 PM
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"you are a non-reactive alpha wolf and nothing she does affects you." I am a non-reactive alpha wolf. FUCKING ACT LIKE IT! I like the link, appreciate it. I'll give it a full read thru after work later. From skimming it though I immediately see some contradictions: Re-initiate mutual contact Increase the frequency and intensity of communication Maintain or build attraction Maintain or build comfort The other side of the bridge These points suggest what everyone else (including yourself) seems to…
/r/seduction13/05/11 11:03 PM
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I think ignoring her and letting her come to the realization "Wow, I bored him" is much more powerful. This of course requires her interest already. . which is actually mutually beneficial. If she isn't already interested: I ignore her, she ignores me, we go on about our lives. If she is interested: I ignore her, she wonders why, she makes the effort to continue interacting, I've got the IOI and continue to give chase.
/r/seduction13/05/11 05:09 PM
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"never respond to a one word text unless it would be natural to do so" agreed. I would take this a step further and even say "never respond to a 1-word text because its never natural to do so".. continuing a conversation in a different direction and responding to a previous convo thread are two different things by my estimation.
/r/seduction13/05/11 05:05 PM
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True. I like to avoid texting altogether these days with the exception of coordinating & solidifying plans. But it seems like dating in SoCal/LA or any big city.. texting is a necessary hurdle. I've read people suggesting that text game is better for building attraction than phone game. I've wrangled dates through just texting, but I can't see how this is even remotely true. I've had amazing connections develop with guy and/or lady friends over the phone, never w/ just texts. From my perspective…
/r/seduction13/05/11 05:02 PM
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Ignoring it is pretty much what I do after the third 1-word reply. This is also after I've generally changed strategies either going from direct questions to open ended thoughts/convo hooks and humorous comments. My criteria for any sort of correspondence is she has to be putting at very least 40% of the effort into a conversation. When it's obvious she isn't willing or interested in giving it that much I move on.
/r/seduction13/05/11 04:52 PM
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On?
/r/seduction13/05/11 04:49 PM
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Long time lurker first comment: I wrote up a blog mirroring many of these thoughts and ideas in both the OP and some of the comments. I edited much of it down (FTFY style) because the blog is mainly for myself to remind myself on a near constant basis of these ideas and ideals. This is not a plug for my blog, but check it out if you feel so inclined: http://bolxrex.tumblr.com/post/5424474549/eastern-philosophy-a-great-foundation-to-build-a-life Thanks for the thought provoking post.
/r/seduction12/05/11 06:02 PM
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