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botcloud/r/seduction22/11/10 07:04 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction13/12/10 02:52 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction23/11/10 08:19 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction19/12/10 07:21 PM
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botcloud/r/seduction22/12/10 07:21 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction27/11/10 07:24 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction16/11/10 03:42 PM
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botcloud/r/seduction21/12/10 07:21 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction05/12/10 06:03 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction30/11/10 02:59 PM
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botcloud/r/seduction19/11/10 02:01 AM
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botcloud/r/seduction01/12/10 09:05 PM
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At first I was looking for a relationship, but after awhile I just wanted to fuck her. And yeah, definitely dodged a bullet, this isn't the first rack of shit she's fed me.
/r/seduction19/12/10 11:32 PM
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Ive never done a 'freeze out' or experienced strong last minute resistance like this. I will be sure to handle it a lot better next time it happens.
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:58 PM
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Ah! This makes sense. I understand now. This is good advice.
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:57 PM
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I will do this next time. ;-)
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:49 PM
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Yeah, that was a big mistake on my part.
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:49 PM
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This response makes the most sense to me I think. Thanks for the advice.
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:47 PM
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It sounded like she framed herself into being slutty. So seriously, you're suggesting that I should have said I liked her and don't need the sex, but it would be 'fun'? That sounds a bit sheepish...
/r/seduction19/12/10 09:46 PM
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I like this answer, but it sounds a bit like an ultimatum. You're suggesting that I basically tell her that I want to stop doing 'extra-curricular' activities outside the bedroom, and just stick with the sex? What happens if she then 'knows' that im just using her for sex then?
/r/seduction13/12/10 07:10 AM
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Okay ill do this.
/r/seduction13/12/10 06:29 AM
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She's supposed to meet me for lunch or dinner tomorrow. Flaking always seems risky to me. There's a high chance it will piss her off because she understands 'the game' and will basically just flake on me next time. I doubt flaking on her will build attraction.
/r/seduction13/12/10 06:02 AM
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I didn't say she was my girlfriend, I said she was my friend with benefits. Ive been in this situation plenty of times before and never know how to build a relationship from it.
/r/seduction13/12/10 06:00 AM
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She says she wants to hang out and go places and do the sex thing. She's not making the relationship strictly sexual.
/r/seduction13/12/10 05:41 AM
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So what 'needy' things should I be avoiding? I do supplicate a bit, but only because she literally 'has nothing'. If we go out somewhere, im pretty much paying because she is completely broke.
/r/seduction13/12/10 04:07 AM
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Cool, so the problem is identified. How do I gain prizability in her eyes?
/r/seduction13/12/10 04:06 AM
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Some women seemingly REQUIRE the feeling of being physically protected due to their upbringing. Yes, I know im more than my body size, otherwise we wouldnt be dating/fucking. But I can tell she doesn't see me as her 'protector'.
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:58 AM
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We kiss a lot outside of sex, but sometimes it feels like she's just doing it because she knows I like it. I have some feelings for her and I don't want them to grow heavier and then just be dropped as soon as she finds a guy she truly wants to be with. We arent even 'exclusive' fuck buddies, she says im allowed to sleep with other girls and she wont care.
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:55 AM
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I have been dating a girl that is taller than me and her hands are way bigger than mine. She has even made the comment a few times that her height makes her feel like she is the 'protector' and she prefers guys taller than her because it makes her feel secure. So im in the same boat as you. How can I make a girl feel physically secure if she is taller than me? Not to mention she typically dates tall, muscled, tattood guys. I am short, thin, no tattoos.
/r/seduction13/12/10 02:48 AM
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Yeah this is what I did. But is it better not to even be in this situation to begin with? Do I 'gain' anything but I telling her that she is an interesting woman to me?
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:34 PM
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Ive been talking to her / seeing her for about 5 days. So its not like I -just- met her.
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:34 PM
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Thank you. This was the answer I was looking for.
/r/seduction05/12/10 08:50 AM
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The problem is that my original girl isn't going to show up at the party and my new girl will recognize that. I have to come up with a safe reason to make it look like I didn't break up with the girl because of her, and also to make it not appear that my main girl just flaked on me.
/r/seduction05/12/10 07:03 AM
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A boss wouldn't even bother telling her because it doesn't matter to me if she knows or not. That's what I was thinking at least. The problem is that my main girl wont show up at the party, so my new girl is going to be asking me why. I don't want it to sound like my main girl flaked on me.
/r/seduction05/12/10 07:01 AM
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She said she isn't looking for anything serious, but that doesn't really mean anything to me. How can I safely inform her that I stopped seeing my main girl, and also somehow proceed into a 'non-casual' relationship? This is complicated!
/r/seduction05/12/10 06:50 AM
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Video games generally have the same outcome when you play them, but every woman is different. No matter how much you read, you're going to have to use creativity and read signals in order to be successful with women.
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:30 AM
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Wait, what?
/r/seduction01/12/10 09:15 PM
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Should I call her instead of texting her? We have had some long phone conversations the last few weeks. Or is talking to a girl on the phone into the late hours of the night a bad idea? Now that we've done that, im going to try to back off on this type of phone conversation to make her feel like im not as interested anymore. We only decided on a general location for the date (a city). I can certainly work on establishing what we are going to actually do in that city.
/r/seduction30/11/10 07:53 PM
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Is that the sort of thing you say on the first date? It seems a bit silly to come right out and say, "Oh by the way, im seeing other girls too". It just sounds like you are trying to show her that you're a 'pimp'. In fact that's the response I always get when I mention I went out with a different girl, "Oh so you're a player/pimp huh?"
/r/seduction30/11/10 06:23 PM
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Ive heard mixed responses to this. Some PUAs have recommended keeping the flame in some way. Obviously im going to not send a lot of texts/calls. If she was interested wouldn't she be making an active effort to communicate with me if im not texting/calling her? When I don't talk to a girl for awhile, I start to 'lose interest' in her. Won't the same thing happen to her since the last date will start to lose it's freshness in her mind? Also, you are suggesting that I do not let her pick where she…
/r/seduction30/11/10 06:04 PM
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How do the people im dating know im dating other people? Is it a good idea to talk about the dates I have with other people in some subtle way?
/r/seduction30/11/10 06:00 PM
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I don't understand. Escalate WHAT to 'yes' or 'no'? What type of questions are safe to ask for those responses?
/r/seduction30/11/10 05:32 PM
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Yeah, this is totally the answer I was looking for.
/r/seduction30/11/10 05:31 PM
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I could date different women and all of them would give different signals for how they are interested. There must be something I can say in order to get a subtle response that I can judge.
/r/seduction30/11/10 05:30 PM
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I feel you on this. I haven't ever done a one night stand, but my last 4 relationships have started with sex on the first date. That kind of chemistry is just what I have come to expect from someone that im going to continue dating. So to not even get a kiss on the first date has really bothered me. But yeah, what if the girl just wants to start slow and then go into 'OMG FREAKY CRAZY SEX MODE' as soon as she has confirmed that you aren't trying to meet her just to bang her and roll out? This gi…
/r/seduction27/11/10 09:30 AM
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Great response, thanks for your input. =)
/r/seduction23/11/10 07:39 PM
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I like this response because I can relate to it. I said I was successful with women in the past, but I had been introduced to them or met them through friends at parties. I never actually met and hooked up with a woman in public that was not within my circle. I think this is a good distinction. =)
/r/seduction23/11/10 07:39 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Ill do better next time!
/r/seduction22/11/10 06:43 PM
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This makes a lot of sense actually. But depending on the woman and her 'shyness', she might think that im either boring or not at all interested on her and she will just move on. I guess you have to keep maintaining the push/pull. Ignore her completely for a bit and then walk over and kino/flirt briefly to keep things moving?
/r/seduction22/11/10 06:41 PM
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Yeah this is where im failing HARD. I don't know how to tease without sounding like a dick. Everything I do related to pua feels 'dickish' and girls are just completely turned off by it. I try to be playful, but girls have constantly been saying, "I cant tell when you're joking".
/r/seduction22/11/10 08:37 AM
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I feel like im 'caring too little' and trying to be 'too alpha', but im being verbally aggressive I think and making them feel cornered. For example, ive made statements like, "You're so quiet, im getting bored.". I think that's the wrong approach, but I was nervous that SHE was bored and tried to throw the ball in her court aggressively. Some girls will throw it back at me, "Well you're not exactly doing much to entertain me". And then I would go, "Well since when am I your entertainment?". And…
/r/seduction22/11/10 08:06 AM
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Hey, good advice, thanks. I think my problem was that I was reacting too much to try to 'prove' that im the prize. Does that make sense? What sort of things do you say to show that you are looking for girls 'worthy of your time'? If I said something like, "Im looking for a girl that is worth my time" will get a sassy/aggressive comeback. If I ignore it completely, that feels weak. It's as if I have to have a challenging statement ready, but then the tension just gets uncomfortable.
/r/seduction22/11/10 08:04 AM
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I think the shit test was to see if I would not delete her number just because she wouldn't sleep with me. Are you supposed to come across as a guy that 'doesnt bother' if he doesn't get sex?
/r/seduction21/11/10 07:24 PM
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This is the same idea I got. In fact she told me she likes it rough and likes guys to be aggressive.
/r/seduction21/11/10 07:17 PM
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I thought that was the natural transition. =(
/r/seduction21/11/10 07:17 PM
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That game rocks. So I can be her dungeon keeper and she can be my dark mistress? Or what?
/r/seduction21/11/10 07:17 PM
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Can either of you please explain why a comedian is a bad idea? It sounds like a relaxed atmosphere, she won't be too pressured by the 'no date' thing.
/r/seduction19/11/10 09:10 AM
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Awesome, haha. But how am I bringing them into 'my world' if I go to different places than I normally do? If the girl is a typical poor college girl, regular shitty bars are her comfort zone but not mine. I like stuff a bit more upscale, which would take her out of her comfort zone and more into 'my world'. This is more expensive though.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:50 AM
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Is this what you're supposed to do even if you want her for a LTR? Does this really reveal to her what your lifestyle is? Maybe I just feel like im misrepresenting what I enjoy doing. I dont feel like I have to 'woo' the girl with fancy things, but I feel like it's just what I enjoy doing 'for myself'.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:14 AM
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Okay, 20$ per plate then, or do you mean for the whole meal? lol
/r/seduction19/11/10 03:36 AM
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Isn't 'a lot of money' relative to the financial status?
/r/seduction19/11/10 03:36 AM
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I doubt anything I say will change her mind, im just working on knocking her down a bit in some way. I can look for places in the midpoint, but there is really nothing between her and I, so it's tricky. I'm not trying to overthink it, but I have 4 days to figure out where we're going to go, haha.
/r/seduction16/11/10 09:41 PM
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I have a couple ideas, just don't know how to knock her down some notches. She has the princess complex and she knows it too and it using it against me hard. I cant say that I was out in her neck of the woods because there is NO reason id ever go out that way and I specifically told her earlier that I have never been to her city (its a good 30 minute drive!). Since she has a princess complex (I have joked with her repeatedly about it), one idea is that if she says she isn't driving all the way o…
/r/seduction16/11/10 09:27 PM
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Thanks cheddarchexmix! 35 minutes is a pretty decent drive. I met her online so I haven't built much of any attraction/rapport with her yet. I have no problem driving, but she has princess-syndrome and I don't want to concede. Is it better for me to tell her im coming out that way rather than tell her to come out my way, but then concede when she refuses? I have a feeling she will refuse to talk to me any further if I don't make the effort to come out to her. More advice please! =)
/r/seduction16/11/10 09:08 PM
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She's my unicorn/oneitis object.
/r/seduction16/11/10 08:57 PM
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Yeah it was a really strange line from her, she's a bit odd. She has some trust issues and has the tendency to flake unless pushed. Those are some pretty fun lines.
/r/seduction16/11/10 08:48 PM
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I agree with you, and it's true that I have nothing to lose, so im going to go for it. Another question though. If she says, "Sorry I don't think I can come on Friday", what should I say? Remember, she specifically told me that if she said she couldn't go on Friday that I should "make her go". I suspect this is some sort of test. When a girl demands that you make her go somewhere with you, how do you respond?
/r/seduction16/11/10 08:19 PM
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I have a question about #2 actually. There is a girl that I have plans to see this weekend, but she lives about 35 minutes away (a pretty decent drive). What happens if she is 'refusing' to drive all the way over this way as a shit test? Should I be driving out to her if shes in a more 'happening' city? I haven't asked her to come out this way yet as we haven't made solid plans. I have a feeling it's going to be met with strong resistance because she is nothing but shit tests. Please give advice…
/r/seduction16/11/10 07:42 PM
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Okay, so what if she asks why my brothers aren't coming this weekend? Any clever lines for that? I won't pick up the tab, ill play the 'ill get the next round' game. She's one of those super friendly girls that is very touchy-feely and makes awkward comments that can be construed as 'flirting', so it's always hard to tell if she's serious or not.
/r/seduction16/11/10 07:38 PM
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I really appreciate your input. We've never been 'close friends', just party buddies from time to time. She always had a boyfriend, I always had a girlfriend. I'm not big on trying to be friends with her, we are never going to be consistent friends. I would rather have anything other than the simple friendship we have, even if it causes some fallout.
/r/seduction16/11/10 06:30 PM
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She hangs out with guys normally, and only has a few female friends that I already know. I'm not afraid to ruin my friendship with her, so how about some tips for Friday?
/r/seduction16/11/10 05:26 PM
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Okay, so I should have agreed that it's not a date. Advice taken. I will box the shit, more good advice. I haven't had a girl over in a few months so I guess I hadn't noticed how much of a problem it could be. I'm seeing a different girl on Saturday so im not real worried about it. But with this old friend of mine I've never played around much in the seduction game and now I see it as an unrealistic challenge. Maybe you can give me some actual advice rather than continue to cringe? =)
/r/seduction16/11/10 04:51 PM
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I feel you on this, but I figured that since we've had no contact for so many years that it would be a fresh experience. We are both completely different people and it feels like 'starting over'. I was 22 or so when I last saw her.
/r/seduction16/11/10 04:45 PM
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