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4

Marine biologist would be better.
/r/seduction30/05/11 07:01 PM
1

Here's your motivation.
/r/seduction27/05/11 03:28 PM
1

wtf is a "womyn"? can't you type?
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:35 PM
2

being a douche doesn't make him wrong If beauty is so common, why would you date someone whose only saving grace is appearance? Because you're thinking small. You want an intelligent chick who is also smoking hot.
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:09 PM
5

SEDUCER
/r/seduction10/05/11 06:12 PM
1

"Compensates"? With viagra, that may be true for the 70+ year old age bracket.
/r/seduction07/05/11 09:42 PM
4

Only if the rich guy doesn't fuck them right
/r/seduction07/05/11 08:41 PM
1

Tell her more about how your relationship will mutually improve the lives of both your dogs.
/r/seduction28/04/11 02:06 PM
8

David Deangelo says exactly that. And that making other people laugh while not laughing yourself is an extremely dominant behaviour.
/r/seduction15/04/11 04:11 AM
2

In a situation like this I think making a grossly wrong comment like you don't even know what he's talking about and you're completely clueless will throw them off. He probably sticks to you because you're the one guy giving him attention. As soon as you become deaf to him he'll go away. As a last resort be rude and ask to be left alone.
/r/seduction30/03/11 12:19 AM
1

and what if he's also willing? what if you open your mouth to act tough he feeds you your teeth? To be honest I'd love to have a chance to test my Krav training in a real fight. Unfortunately the one time a guy was trying to get a girl that was with me and I stood up to him he backed away, despite me being skinny and he being a foot taller than me. Guess he saw I was willing to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. True story, happened last month. there are ways to stand up for yourself with…
/r/seduction30/03/11 12:00 AM
1

Yes it is. The keyword being WILLING. Once the other guy realizes you're WILLING to get physical 99% of the time he'll back away. And you can't be WILLING as long as you know he'll kick your ass. And this is about more than some random chick because if you let people walk over you like a doormat you won't ever get anywhere in life. Now that that bully knows he can just take the girl from our colleague he can do it anytime he sees him dancing in that same place. He's a bully. And the way to deal …
/r/seduction29/03/11 09:45 PM
0

If it happened to me, either he'd apologize or one of us would be sleeping in a hospital that night. How do you expect to get any girl when any idiot can walk all over you? What if she was your girlfriend? What kind of logic would you use to rationalize not facing up to him? Go learn how to fight. Judo, Krav Maga, whatever helps you man up.
/r/seduction29/03/11 01:01 PM
1

the real question is why you waste your time on that site
/r/seduction28/03/11 06:46 PM
3

You try too hard. Big chance she'll remember she has to floss the cat or help her grandmother type a letter and won't be able to make it..
/r/seduction28/03/11 04:59 AM
8

While I agree on the door-opening experience I flat out refuse if they ask for gifts or anything that costs money - even if me buying her dinner or a pair of shoes means she'll put out, I don't want to be with someone who allows me to buy their favours. And even worse, if that turns into a relationship, be forced to keep buying stuff to avoid break up.
/r/seduction22/03/11 03:35 AM
2

There are the sardine can clubs with the loud music in total darkness and there are clubs a bit less loud and better lit and not so crowded that you can actually see who you're talking to. Maybe you've been going to the wrong type.
/r/seduction19/03/11 09:07 PM
1

In a weeek she won't even remember who he is anymore.
/r/seduction16/03/11 01:32 PM
5

I don't have the balls to approach one in a group. There's your problem. You're rationalizing your fear of approaches as a dislike of the setting and hoping for some magic cure where the women just fall on your lap. Such magic is called the cold approach and should you get over your fear of it you'd do it in bars or in cafés or parks or wherever and wouldn't be here complaining. I don't wish I was at a cooking class or a reading club when I'm alone or with someone. I wish I was at home playing a…
/r/seduction16/03/11 01:31 PM
1

It's like the Civ games when you get really big all the lesser civs gang up on you...
/r/seduction16/03/11 12:35 AM
2

I'm with you here. I hardly bother posting anymore because so often my advice gets downvoted and the top voted comments are AFCs giving out AFC advice. What we're lacking is an active moderation force that deletes that noise. Do the moderators even read this?
/r/seduction25/11/10 02:13 PM
7

I sure am glad I don't live in LA.
/r/seduction24/11/10 09:53 PM
0

if she doesn't reply to your last message don't bother anymore also, try not to sound like you're doing a job interview or talking to a professor
/r/seduction24/11/10 12:52 AM
0

also, watch John Wayne notice how he finishes almost all sentences lowering his voicce tone
/r/seduction24/11/10 12:10 AM
0

listen to david de angelo talk, he's perfect imho talking fast conveys nervousness... and sounding excited tells the girl you calling her is the high point of your week... ideally you want to sound like you talk to hot girls all day... almost but not quite bored, almost but not quite monotone... "oh I'll call Jenny and see what's up, hopefully she'll be less boring than Sally..."
/r/seduction23/11/10 11:06 PM
0

that's a bullshit excuse this chick is gone if she wanted to hang out with you she'd replied it's as simple as that
/r/seduction22/11/10 10:27 PM
2

since you both work at the same place it may be easier to have lunch together, plus less pressure than a "date"
/r/seduction22/11/10 07:13 PM
-9

Get off the internet and go to a bar/club/library/coffee shop or park.
/r/seduction18/11/10 01:35 AM
1

By forgettting all about your shortcomings. In one of the RSD dvds Tyler tells about a time he went sarging and did awesome. But he didn't know until going back to the hotel that he had a huge mustard stain in his shirt. Then he was told it was there from the beginning of the night. And it had no effect on his game because he (unknowingly) acted as if it didn't exist. It's only a problem if you think it's a problem.
/r/seduction17/11/10 10:40 PM
0

Bullshit.
/r/seduction17/11/10 07:57 PM
0

I guess you never got a fake number then?
/r/seduction17/11/10 11:30 AM
4

She may or may not actually have a boyfriend. She just wanted to get rid of you in the nicest way possible.
/r/seduction17/11/10 12:55 AM
3

this is the correct response it may or may not be the case that she's using you as a backup date in case her better options don't work out so don't blow her off but don't go after her either, let her come to you
/r/seduction12/11/10 11:59 AM
5

Go ahead. BTW you should film the whole interation specially your faces during & after the performance and post it to youtube for us to appreciate. For science.
/r/seduction11/11/10 05:32 PM
0

Small talk doesn't pick up girls. Everybody does small talk. It just clumps you with all the chumps. Specially with the really hot girls. You're making small talk and she's thinking awww how cute this guy is trying to pick me up... I'll even give him a smile so he thinks he has a chance and gives me more attention that I deserve Negs & cocky and funny do. You should've teased her with something like Wow this place is a dump it doesn't even have <meaningless item you were searching for>... I bet …
/r/seduction11/11/10 05:19 PM
3

I've seen some pretty good in-field videos on youtube So why don't you link them for us?
/r/seduction11/11/10 12:40 PM
6

The general idea is that dating is a numbers game. IOW you have to weed out a lot of chaff to find the wheat you want. There are lots of girls wanting a husband too. Do you want to settle for an unattractive girl that's a bit psycho and will make your life hell or do you want a pretty, well-balanced one that holds a job and will help you build your lives together? The second type is not necessarily that hard to find but competition for them is brutal just like banging that drop dead gorgeous tha…
/r/seduction11/11/10 12:30 PM
1

Agreed. If she invites again suggest an alternate location and feel free to state the reason.
/r/seduction09/11/10 11:58 PM
-1

you're still her emotional tampon also, you're her feel-good fuck. enjoy it while it lasts.
/r/seduction08/11/10 03:29 PM
-1

you're her emotional tampon you'll never get inside her pants reality hurts move on
/r/seduction08/11/10 02:23 PM
9

You don't give us much to go on but I can deduce two things from your post: 1 - you're probably boring 2 - your objective is to get a number instead of getting a girl Regarding number 1 it's really hard to tell someone how to stop being boring. But if not even your friends want to go out with you do you really expect a hot girl to? So, forget about girls for a month and focus on your friends. Make them like you. Your mission in life as of now is to have them invite you to go out pick up chicks w…
/r/seduction08/11/10 12:13 PM
3

as they say you really have to stop thinking about what you should do and think about what you want did you want to grind with her? or did you actually want to brush her off thinking how cool you are? we're not talking about relationships here...
/r/seduction07/11/10 08:49 PM
2

this: ask her if it's ok to give him her number and get the problem out of your hands if she says no you tell your friend you've done your part and that's it, if he still wants it he'll have to go after it himself, and it's not your fault if she says yes you know what to do
/r/seduction04/11/10 01:55 PM
0

around the heat death of the universe btw I think you did nothing wrong this was a trainwreck from the beginning as long as you didn't storm off and walked slowly allowing plently of opportunity for her to follow, and she didn't, it's not your fault and you cut wasting your time on a crazy chick
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:11 PM
8

I think of all the canned crap as training wheels on a bike -- eventually you'll grow out of them and become a natural, but you'll learn how to ride faster and get hurt less with them. Of course there are plenty of people (just watch the pick up artist show or some bad pu videos) that are themselves incapable of growing out of them and instead keep parroting them out. Those people will be forever stuck as soulless human husks and won't ever be able to learn the "natural" methods yet at least the…
/r/seduction27/10/10 09:31 PM
2

each pheromone has different effects so what do they do?
/r/seduction27/10/10 12:37 AM
1

she's a "hired gun" and there's a specific approach to gaming them. IIRC mystery method has a chapter dedicated to it. the tl;dr version is massive DHVs in short amount of time then close (try to meet her when she leaves work, otherwise digits would have to do)
/r/seduction26/10/10 08:40 PM
4

good going but sounds like she picked you up!
/r/seduction26/10/10 08:14 PM
12

I propose we rate girls by how many metres they can move in a club before being hit on
/r/seduction25/10/10 12:09 PM
2

What would John Wayne do?
/r/seduction22/10/10 09:46 PM
1

give me some money, or else I'd walk over to his "girlfriend" and tell her all the shit he says around his guy friends do that and you lose - in all likelihood she knows about it it's not worth it - even if you could take him on a fight you'd end up bruised and hurt. walk away and live your life. the best revenge is living well.
/r/seduction22/10/10 02:01 AM
2

negs, cocky funny, learn them
/r/seduction21/10/10 01:21 PM
1

if I walk around smiling all the time I look like a jackass and if I don't smile I look like I'm going to murder someone. Any suggestions? There's got to be a middle ground somewhere. Find it.
/r/seduction21/10/10 01:19 PM
1

well, mine worked, yours didn't, so be hard headed all you want
/r/seduction21/10/10 01:05 PM
2

there are clubs where you can actually move around and see peoples faces and be understood talking only loudly (as opposed to screaming) - those are the best clubs imho - clubs so loud you can't talk and so crowded you can't move aren't fertile ground for pickup
/r/seduction20/10/10 05:56 PM
1

one text that worked for me in a similar situation is "dreamed about you last night" got a call right back wanting to know about the dream :)
/r/seduction20/10/10 11:59 AM
1

you should avoid talking to her at all costs and if you do insist to talk just be polite and play safe - imagine how you could ruin your imaginary relationship if it doesn't go well
/r/seduction18/10/10 04:28 AM
0

you shouldn't even talk to her, imagine how bad it could go and ruin your imaginary friendship
/r/seduction18/10/10 04:25 AM
1

wake us up when there's actually something there, good luck too
/r/seduction18/10/10 01:33 AM
3

Go to clubs until you're confortable in them. Just chill and enjoy being there. When you're actually enjoying it instead of forcing yourself the problem is reduced to an existing solution, seducion 101.
/r/seduction18/10/10 12:27 AM
3

if they're the jealous type just talking to, or even looking at, other girls will do if they aren't then you pretty much can't without making them hate you too
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:33 PM
1

I had one of style's annihilation method dvds that featured steve p, those should be easy to find... I was uninpressed. I think he got in the book mostly for the entertainment value of describing the guy that went for a month without a bath to lose self-consciousness when talking ot people, or was that the other weirdo?
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:30 PM
-1

you can't win by giving up and declaring you don't care anymore some people are happy with fat or ugly chicks because they're too lazy to get the pretty ones because that's what it comes down to... work and you've given up just the same as somebody who says fuck it and marries a fatty and spends his whole life inventing excuses to justifiy why he settled for less because let's face it online dating is 100 x worse than meeting somebody face to face... even if you find success, you're settling for…
/r/seduction16/10/10 01:04 AM
1

I would wait for her to bring it up then trade numbers. If you want to be witty though you could take a piece of card and draw a mock business card with some ridiculous profession such as lion tamer or sex coach or whatever. Then you can just give it to her.
/r/seduction11/10/10 08:08 PM
1

Find a club where the music won't be so loud. I find large clubs with live music are better to go solo - farther from the band it won't be loud. Also being a large club I don't feel self conscious about being watched by everyone and singled out as the lone guy approaching everybody.
/r/seduction09/10/10 02:18 PM
1

it's a neg, it's very purpose is to make them self conscious say it teasingly obviously, only if they're actually wearing heels
/r/seduction06/10/10 09:41 PM
4

are you cool? you're too tall, you shouldn't be wearing heels can you cook?
/r/seduction06/10/10 06:08 PM
12

you failed to make a move when you had the opportunity now you got friendzoned
/r/seduction06/10/10 12:02 AM
3

Thanks for this. I've read the link, and I think it's not talking about the same thing you are. Actually he does, though perhaps not as fleshed out as I did. sure many women flake as some sort of power play but thats not always he case. i can remember back in my more inexperienced days when it i had to summon all my courage to go an meet a girl somewhere. they are human just like us. sometimes they get just as freaked out as we do about things cept they aren't as aggressive. they have no warrior…
/r/seduction05/10/10 11:05 PM
4

You may be right of course. But do I want to risk being wrong? It's not like talking to girls is a chore. It's not even like I got stood up waiting for someone, the most work I've done is holding the phone. I have good reason to believe there's truth in this theory. 10 days ago she called asking me out after I froze her due to her previous flake. (Not a 1-1 meet though). She calls me back when she can't answer. We already kissed. Then there are things such as voice tone which I don't think she c…
/r/seduction05/10/10 09:34 PM
0

Don't be too quick to judge. I have a brother engaged to a girl he's been with for 8 years now. When they started dating she was 16.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:59 PM
1

Did she give other IOIs? Did she actually agree to meet then flake, or didn't even agree to meet? Did she ever call you after a week or so without contact?
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:43 PM
3

What is my response? How much time am I spending? I'm not obsessing over her, I call her at most 2 x a week, I have other girls on my calling list. No, I don't agree with you at all.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:33 PM
3

I'd expect the flaking to stop once you get into an actual relationship. If it doesn't, then it's a character flaw.
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:58 PM
4

Stop thinking about IOIs so much.
/r/seduction05/10/10 01:27 PM
1

As for getting numbers, imagine the quality of your interaction like a high jumper, and if you clear the bar you get her number. Whether you clear that bar by a millimeter or a mile, you still cleared it. But if you only just barley cleared it, and you go to call her back, shes had time to play things back in her head, so guess what the bar has been raised and this time you didn't make it. Got it? This.
/r/seduction05/10/10 01:26 PM
1

obviously a troll
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:22 PM
1

the first weekly challenge too good for you?
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:19 PM
2

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=rapport also, see: -----------> New to this subreddit?
/r/seduction03/10/10 06:47 PM
1

the fb relationship doesn't mean too much... are there photos of her together with the guy? it might be casual, or maybe they had a fight, who knows it's probably best not to dwell on her and if you meet her again (odds should be good) even better
/r/seduction01/10/10 04:48 PM
3

i think there's definitely something there, but you need to build more attraction let's put it this way, if she met george clooney on the bus do you think she'd pass an opportunity for a date? she probably likes you but there are other guys higher on her priority ladder... more attraction needed
/r/seduction01/10/10 03:41 AM
10

rooshv is a retarded moron oh god so women will stop taking care of themselves? sure there'll always be fat slobs who don't have the will power to stop eating, but most chicks already do everything to keep a slim figure, and will keep doing so because you know what? there'll be always the elusive man she wants. so what if the water table is higher, she'll always want the best guy. be that because of money (newsflash: so many hot chicks are below middle class. they are the ones wanting a prince c…
/r/seduction30/09/10 07:31 PM
1

don't try too hard roller coaster, seriously?
/r/seduction30/09/10 01:51 PM
7

yeah... I'd love a solution to that
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:38 PM
18

The rationale for the cut all contact with her thing is that AFCs in recovery won't be able to separate things and will continue to cling to and obsess over a girl that friendzoned them ruining any game they might be learning. The better thing to do is of course to keep them around as friends. Friend friends, without any sexuality whatsoever. Treat them like little sisters. And often they'll later realize their mistake and take back the LJBF. But, again, unless you can completely separate sex an…
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:53 PM
13

well if you enjoyed your time with her I think it's obvious: set up another casual date and see if if you get the kiss... if you don't, then forget her
/r/seduction28/09/10 01:39 PM
20

no kino escalation = friend zone
/r/seduction27/09/10 04:57 PM
2

Sadly, she was with a group of girls that were friends with my ex and when the recognition happened all bets were off, those girls killed my chances. I'm sure not being a jerk when you break up helps. I try to stay friends with all girls, even those who blow me off. You don't want to burn any bridges.
/r/seduction26/09/10 09:17 PM
6

So you lost the opportunity of upping her kissing score?
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:35 AM
2

stop them as if you were asking for directions, do ask some simple directions, then tease and neg them and if they're receptive you can try talking for a minute or two (more teasing / negs but don't try too hard) and # close
/r/seduction23/09/10 03:18 PM
3

Take acting lessons
/r/seduction22/09/10 08:26 PM
8

Just go there, buy something and during the process of buying quickly tell her you'd like to meet her again and ask for her number. But for the love of FSM don't dither. Walk in like a king. If she catches a glimpse of you outside the store stalking her then it's all over.
/r/seduction22/09/10 08:25 PM
5

This is talked about in some RSD material as being "inside your head". When you're inside your head you come across as forced, try hard, awkward. When you're outside your head you are natural, confident and attractive. So stay outside your head from now on.
/r/seduction21/09/10 10:32 PM
1

sad but true
/r/seduction21/09/10 08:24 PM
4

Yeah then the girl thinks what a pussy who won't stand for himself.
/r/seduction21/09/10 12:47 PM
1

Part of the thing with Neil Strauses stuff is it seems to work better the dumber the girl. I believe that may be so but only at the beginning. It's like training wheels in a bike. Once you practice it you'll start becoming a natural and won't need the training wheels anymore. You might like RSD stuff - it's less gimmicky and focuses on natural game but also for that reason may be slower to give results.
/r/seduction21/09/10 02:26 AM
11

Mystery: Hey girls look! That guy is trying to impress you! How's he doing?
/r/seduction21/09/10 02:24 AM
2

The reason most FRs are HB8+ is probably that once you're past AFC you don't even bother with lesser girls. And if I see a 9 I'll be trying my best to get to her. So even if they may be rare the number of FRs won't be proportional.
/r/seduction21/09/10 02:21 AM
1

Please tell me you're still sargeing other girls. Of course I am. Update: met her in a club saturday night, when I tried to kiss her was told she couldn't because we're friends. I wasn't the least bit surprised and still had a lot of fun that night. The consolation is I'm pretty sure her cousin wanted us to hook up, I caught two definite signs of that I'm not going to elaborate upon for brevity. I won't be holding my breath though - in fact I'm pretty sure I don't even want her anymore. But it a…
/r/seduction20/09/10 07:56 PM
2

I think you're on the money... thanks for a fresh perspective. As I said, I'm merely going along for the ride to see what happens.
/r/seduction18/09/10 08:26 PM
1

She's 19 so I guess I can't expect her to act much different.
/r/seduction18/09/10 07:39 PM
-1

Oh dear, there's nothing I hate more than fundies. I'm sure there are other places you can meet girls around there.
/r/seduction18/09/10 05:52 PM
5

My mantra is "find someone interested in you". If the girl isn't responding it's probably not your falt. Don't fixate, and find someone interested in you.
/r/seduction18/09/10 05:51 PM
1

what kinda body language tells I have been getting those are called IOIs, read about them then game her with negs + cocky funny until her panties are wet best case you hook up worst case keep her as friend to show you around no loss
/r/seduction18/09/10 04:48 PM
3

Is she hitting on you? Pretend you don't get it and if she insists LJBF her.
/r/seduction18/09/10 03:03 PM
2

You Sir are quite an scholar. What a magnificent description!
/r/seduction14/09/10 04:17 PM
2

5
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:32 PM
0

6
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:05 PM
1

negs + cocky funny will do the trick make sure to sound natural, if it sounds forced you'll come across as worse than a creeper
/r/seduction14/09/10 01:07 AM
2

Well, I guess experiences with 7s and 6s aren't that memorable? With a 9 it's much more of a rollercoaster ride. Plus, the beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. If she's a 9 to me that's what I see her as and how my behaviour is adjusted to her, even if you think she's a 7.
/r/seduction13/09/10 09:49 PM
1

You obviously have no sense of humour. The response you get by insisting on the most ridiculous things with a straight face is amazing.
/r/seduction13/09/10 09:45 PM
6

I would argue the original test works and the execution was poor. Come on, shampoo... Good one though.
/r/seduction13/09/10 03:08 AM
4

How does that chump behaviour of buying drinks makes them AMOGs? I thought A stood for alpha.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:16 PM
3

Insist those are your real feet and get fake outraged when people don't believe because you have this rare genetic disorder that makes them look like that
/r/seduction12/09/10 12:37 PM
5

look up di carlo's escalation ladder
/r/seduction09/09/10 06:43 PM
-3

this gets asked here every other week
/r/seduction08/09/10 11:51 PM
2

You're probably either not creating enough attraction/rapport or coming across as a try-hard.
/r/seduction08/09/10 08:37 PM
3

This. I don't believe this story.
/r/MensRights08/09/10 03:48 PM
1

Hmmm, well reading this over a second time, you come across as trying hard. You energy level was at 9, hers was at 5. Except from the beginning you pretty much carried the whole conversation. It appears as if you're making an effort to impress. At least to me. And trust me on this one, there's nothing that kills attraction faster than letting it show you're making an effort.
/r/seduction08/09/10 04:37 AM
2

I think she was just being friendly and having fun and had no intention of going out with you from the beginning. I also think mentioning creeping and stalking is very, very stupid and sends a very wrong vibe. Also, what's with the penis shit? Wtf... If you had anything going that surely killed it.
/r/seduction08/09/10 04:26 AM
1

I think more active moderators might be needed. ThrowawayPUA might be a good one.
/r/seduction07/09/10 08:48 PM
2

REPOST http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d9yl6/what_do_you_think_of_this/
/r/seduction07/09/10 01:16 PM
1

Yeah, do your homework and check out the New to this subreddit space on the right --> But not to be a jerk, I'll leave you the Tao of Steve
/r/seduction04/09/10 03:22 PM
-3

fuck you with truckloads of single women around why do you have to hit on married ones?
/r/seduction03/09/10 03:19 AM
-4

Allow me to explain. I'm totally interested in reading what intelligent, well rounded women think of it. That shots girl who posted here a while, for instance. OTOH I really don't want to wast a minute of my time reading about insecure women with a sense of entitlement bitching about pick up as if it were the reason they can't find a boyfriend because all the good ones go after good looking and sane women.
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:44 PM
-5

Oh dear what a waste of 1 minute it was to read some comments there. I hope they don't follow the link back here and start with aggressive comments.
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:37 PM
6

yeah, but if you don't take risks you're a lame afc she won't want to hang around. taking risky behavior is a very strong dhv - it shows you're not afraid to lose her because you know there are more where she came from basic seduction 101 stuff - not caring if you get the girl or don't, walking away, etc, makes she chase you
/r/seduction02/09/10 12:35 PM
3

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d0tfm/the_full_stop/ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d1j6b/the_reverse_lbjf_manouvre_this_is_fucking_genious/
/r/seduction02/09/10 12:18 PM
5

You don't want to be with someone who gets black out drunk. It happened once, it'll happen again. BTW, this should really belong in /r/relationships.
/r/seduction31/08/10 05:41 PM
3

Well I think she staying to watch you pee is a most certain sign she wanted to fuck you. Though IMHO you shouldn't have actually made good on your threat and peed in front of her, how gross is that? I mean, if a girl I was into peed in front of me I'd surely be turned off and grossed out. As for what happened later, who knows? Girls need no reason to act. Maybe she had regrets? The alcohol faded away? She was shy because of all the people watching? If I were you I'd let a few days go by then inv…
/r/seduction29/08/10 04:07 PM
1

What would you do if for whatever reason she doesn't like the activity you had planned? Just take her back home. If she were more interested in you than the activity she'd go along. If she doesn't like it then she's interested in neither.
/r/seduction26/08/10 06:51 PM
2

I think you should work on first-person naked. Much better than pics.
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:31 PM
16

she not answering your second question was the hint to move to a different line of conversation she saying she's hot raises 57 red flags - this was the point to eject, doesn't sound like someone I'd want to even talk to you acknowledging it means you lost - you're doing what she wants
/r/seduction24/08/10 10:17 PM
2

Do you want us to do your homework too? Take a look at the sidebar on the right, where it says New to this subreddit?.
/r/seduction23/08/10 09:41 PM
1

I think you answered your own question.
/r/seduction23/08/10 12:46 AM
12

Don't bend your life around her. Keep doing your things, for yourself. Let her tag along if she wants to.
/r/seduction22/08/10 08:08 PM
1

tell her that my sister told me that girls that say things like "if you buy me a drink" are basically whores and ask her what she thinks of that... Why insult her? That'll only make her hate you and kill any chance you might have had. Call their bullshit, ask if she's keeping score with her friends and imply she's behind. That's much better - she'll qualify herself now.
/r/seduction22/08/10 12:53 AM
2

There is no hard to isolate. There's only not interested enough. At some point you'll experience a girl falling head over heels for you. Then you'll realize that when you play your cards right they'll ask for your number, if you live by yourself (get the hint?), grab your hand and isolate you. Tricks are for kids. Work on building attraction, the rest takes care of itself.
/r/seduction22/08/10 12:48 AM
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That was stupid. If she'll be fine what's the point of the message? It's not funny or intriguing. Why is he wasting his time on a person who isn't sexy or smart? Doesn't he have anyone better to call? That's what it communicates to me. It would be MUCH improved by simply changing it into a question. Do you think you'll be safe? But still not good.
/r/seduction21/08/10 08:05 PM
8

Is it bad to buy a HB a drink? Does this ruin the attempt? I think this is covered in seduction 101. Don't buy drinks to girls you just met. This'll place you in the loser group of guys doing anything for her attention. In fact you don't even want to talk to a girl that asks you for a drink. She just wants attention. She's probably keeping score with her friends of who gets the most drinks in a night. In fact you might ask her about that to turn the situation around. Read the other FRs posted he…
/r/seduction21/08/10 04:57 PM
2

repost http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d218e/is_there_a_seduction_thats_aimed_at_women/
/r/seduction20/08/10 06:04 PM
1

what if you`re the older man?
/r/seduction20/08/10 12:24 AM
3

women aren't attracted by you, but rather by the idea of you what does a guy with big muscles make her feel? do you need big muscles to make her feel that way?
/r/seduction19/08/10 01:51 AM
-3

You mean to say you don't like touching girls? Are you gay or something?
/r/seduction18/08/10 09:22 PM
2

Express your interest subtly (not too subtly). Make sure to present some cchallenge. Girls throwing themselves to us are a huge turn off. Sure free sex is every male's fantasy but if you want a relationship - present some challenge.
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:41 AM
21

many people don't want to spend their lives up until the early morning chasing women sometimes you just want to find the one losers settle for some ugly chick with psicological issues because that's what they can get and they're too lazy to change winners don't settle for anything. they go for the gold. if that's laying a new hb9 every week, so be it. if it's finding a hot, emotionally stable woman who's also good company to be the mother of their kids, that's an equally valid goal.
/r/seduction17/08/10 01:25 PM
5

Most likely he'll spend the next year of his life depressed and feeling worthless. Been there, done that. Maybe in a couple more years he'll realize the way.
/r/seduction17/08/10 12:48 AM
4

What? If you're in position to decide whether to have sex this definitely doesn't apply.
/r/seduction16/08/10 02:05 PM
2

Other relevant posts from the original thread: boys fall for their girl friends, girls too not an excuse for oneitis, it's a long term tactic while seeing other girls about the frame for doing this
/r/seduction16/08/10 01:12 AM
2

Why did you ignore her when she called you back? That's stupid.
/r/seduction15/08/10 10:18 PM
7

"make the ho say no" that's great
/r/seduction15/08/10 02:09 PM
1

Except it IS under control to a large extent -- there are many documented behaviours that generate attraction (negs, cocky funny, etc). But using all those correctly will result in nothing if the chick realizes you're making an effort, trying to impress. It must come from a frame of indiferrence, of not caring about the outcome.
/r/seduction13/08/10 09:00 PM
3

I've been observer in a few pickups where I was part of the set being opened and let me tell you - nothing is a bigger turn-off than letting it show that you're making an effort. The more indifferent you appear the more attraction is elicited.
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:45 PM
2

one my favorite, and most effective seduction techniques. Your favourite technique is to get nearly friendzoned? Seriously? I'm not criticizing because this actually works.
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:43 PM
3

Because you think you'll fail. That's a self defeating attitude. You must convince yourself you'll get what you want then walk up to and talk to her like it's a given she'll give you her number. That's how it works.
/r/seduction12/08/10 12:52 PM
2

what's the problem with the staff overhearing?
/r/seduction12/08/10 12:34 PM
1

Take acting classes.
/r/seduction10/08/10 01:06 PM
1

Barry White
/r/seduction09/08/10 01:21 AM
2

"funner" is not a word you do know that usually when a girl asks if you're gay she's implying that you're not making a move on her, right? she might have a future
/r/seduction09/08/10 01:08 AM
6

I think he's making too much of a small thing. First off, it's a mistake to take any woman to an expensive place on the first couple of dates until you're sure things are moving in the right direction. Secondly, as long as it's an inexpensive place, who cares if you pay the bill? At least in my experience, and given the type of women I'm attracted to, I have much more money than them. I own my business. They're no more than a couple of years out of college. I have no problem paying for a date. I…
/r/seduction09/08/10 01:01 AM
1

Perhaps you need to do things that aren't boring? How about some exciting hobbies? Take flying lessons, go off roading in a dirt bike, anyting! Here's a quote for you: The self always comes through (Tyler Durden). Canned material will only go so far.
/r/seduction08/08/10 09:22 PM
7

I think you're spot on. How about you tell her you need some new clothes and ask her to help you shop?
/r/seduction08/08/10 06:06 PM
1

Well, in that case, you shouldn't have left a message and called a couple times more until you talked to her. Leave a message only as a last resort - in this case if she doesn't call back don't bother anymore.
/r/seduction05/08/10 09:14 PM
1

How weak is it that you tried to set up a date with a machine? How weak is it that after thirteen days of she not answering you're still trying to meet as if nothing had happened? What happens to your value in her head when she hears those messages? It's 2010. Doesn't everyone have a cell phone yet? Why do you even talk to a machine?
/r/seduction05/08/10 07:46 PM
3

Want to bet this marriage won't last more than a year? Keep waiting for her! /sarcasm I know the feeling. Try to keep her off your mind. Go out with friends. Talk to other girls. It'll go away.
/r/seduction05/08/10 12:11 PM
2

I think that's awful advice. It's like I'm training a kid to ride a bike and I tell him. I'm not going to give you any advice on handling the bike. Training wheels are for losers. Go and fall down. Try not to hurt yourself too much. After you fell we can analyze what you did wrong and try to improve next time. IMHO it's the worst advice ever - even if it may be correct (and I'm not convinced of that)
/r/seduction04/08/10 08:11 PM
1

hey, I ask myself WWBD too :)
/r/seduction03/08/10 10:30 PM
1

reads more like a condemnation of weak men
/r/seduction03/08/10 08:07 PM
2

I think it's OK not to kiss on a first date. If you don't kiss on the second date something is definitely wrong though. IMHO the waiting game is silly. Don't wait too much because the interest will only fall off so seize any good excuse to call her and set up a date. Also, 4 hours may be too long? Don't be afraid to cut a date short if you think things are dragging. In fact you should always be the one to end the date.
/r/seduction03/08/10 05:08 PM
6

If nobody calls anymore all the more reason for you to call and stand out from the crowd. Shows confidence not hiding behind a keyboard. Call the next day if you want to.
/r/seduction03/08/10 02:58 PM
1

Definitely that's the missing piece of the puzzle (if there's one). Thanks.
/r/seduction02/08/10 10:16 PM
1

It's not as bad as you make it out to be, dancing with the hottest girl in the room with her breasts against your chest and your leg brushing against her crotch. You know, I could be starving in Siberia. That would be worse :)
/r/seduction02/08/10 10:00 PM
1

Think of the other guys as a shit test. She's judging your reaction to her flirting with other guys. She's judging your reaction when she goes home with other guys. Yeah, that's what the voice in the back of my head keeps saying that makes me think all is not lost. After all, almost all the fucking time, it's HER asking me out. I'm sure I never let any hints of jealousy out. If it's some shit test I must be passing. It's fucking weird though, for now I'm going to sit tight and let her call me if…
/r/seduction02/08/10 09:41 PM
2

OK, now I agree with you.
/r/seduction02/08/10 09:33 PM
1

Don't diss it. True story: me plus a couple friends went to a secluded park one night to drink, with a hottie. The three of us were trying to win her over. I was playing the cool guy. Then one of my friends blurts out that exact line to the hottie. I think, what a ridiculous thing to say! Expressing your interest in such a blatant way! 10 minutes later they're making out. And he took her home. Maybe I can't pull it off like him, but there's some food for your thoughts.
/r/seduction02/08/10 09:05 PM
2

Wise words. Easier said than done though.
/r/seduction02/08/10 07:59 PM
0

Thanks that's good advice. I don't buy the massage though, sounds submissive with me trying to please her. I'm more inclined to say I'll take her to a motel and eat her until she passes out.
/r/seduction02/08/10 07:59 PM
1

Thanks, that's some good advice which resonates with my thinking. It's indeed hard to keep her under control, it seems every minute or so a different guy hits on her. I don't feel confortable interrupting them as that would be weak and jealous.
/r/seduction02/08/10 07:57 PM
3

Any learning course will have good students and bad. It's unfair to judge all bootcamps because two people failed miserably.
/r/seduction02/08/10 07:53 PM
1

One-itis. While I really want this chick on a physical level I don't find myself emotionally attached so I don't think I've fallen for that trap. On the rest, have to agree with you.
/r/seduction02/08/10 03:01 PM
2

The next couple nights we text back and forth and it sounds like she wants to meet up, but nothing ever happens when I try to make that happen. That's what made me say that.
/r/seduction02/08/10 02:22 PM
0

Maybe you should take different friends sarging? You should've found an excuse to isolate her, though. Hey, let's go grab a couple drinks. No, friend, you stay there, now it's my turn to talk to HB9. Something like that. Other than that I don't knot, AMOGing a friend is a bad move because it makes you look like a jerk and insecure about some guy who's obviously less of a man than you.
/r/seduction02/08/10 01:38 PM
3

I'd say she's gone. Find someone interested in you.
/r/seduction02/08/10 12:57 PM
3

Let the weekend go. Call again tuesday. Find something interesting and funny to say for half a minute. Then try to set something up. Accept only a specific date with a specific time. If she tells you maybe or to call again later to confirm it's only BS and she has no intention of ever seeing you again.
/r/seduction29/07/10 06:35 PM
7

You made a big mistake on monday. When she said "maybe wednesday" you should've said "ok, so let's make it a deal. what time wednesday?". Not only you'd be showing control of the situation but then and there you'd see if she was interested or not. Instead you postponed it in hopes her interest would magically rise again and called wednesday like a good AFC... Then you repeat the pattern. Here's a hint: when women are interested in you they find time. They don't give excuses. They invite you out.
/r/seduction29/07/10 05:27 PM
2

Excuse-me, I'm selling these fine leather jackets... (I'm totally serious)
/r/seduction29/07/10 02:47 AM
8

Don't try to fluff. Don't look like you're making an effort. They'll pick up on it. Make some funny comments about the environment or other general subject and see if they pick up on it. If they do they're interested. If not, probably best to move on you can always come back later too.
/r/seduction28/07/10 01:14 PM
1

Here's a quickie field report Yeah, right :) Keep going!
/r/seduction27/07/10 10:21 PM
5

Next!
/r/seduction27/07/10 09:48 PM
2

I feel for you, I've been there though it's been quite some time already. Don't worry, you'll hit your stride soon enough. Enjoy the pursuit and it'll happen naturally. Don't get anxious.
/r/seduction27/07/10 07:37 PM
1

Don't be anxious. Don't expect anything. If it happens, it happens. Meanwhile keep looking.
/r/seduction27/07/10 07:28 PM
2

Jake, you kick ass. One thing I'm not getting though. If you think I was wrong in wandering off, what would you have done in my place?
/r/seduction27/07/10 12:13 PM
2

There was a response. At one moment I was always close to her, every once in a while saying something. I was with her, even if she was being a bitch and barely talking to me. Then I wander off and don't come back to our spot until much later. That's a response. I'm pretty sure she knew I like her. What was I supposed to do? Complain? Make sarcastic comments? Pick up the next chick passing through and slapping a kiss on her? Can't see how any of that would'be helped.
/r/seduction27/07/10 12:06 PM
1

I don't know, this might work. But doesn't sound like associating yourself with cats will project a very masculine image...
/r/seduction27/07/10 02:36 AM
2

Hey buddy, thanks :) That was this saturday so it's pretty fresh :) Haven't talked to her since. As posted, we went out with my friend and his GF (her cousin), usually meeting other acquaintances on the spot. Indeed I need to escalate faster and/or more aggresively. No texting, I don't like texting. Let's see if more happens I'll keep you posted.
/r/seduction27/07/10 02:13 AM
3

Thanks for a very good analysis and solid advice. A couple of things though. Also, with her being an HB 9, she is probably going to get into any club she wants. I'm not american. Clubs don't work that way here. Either you have VIP passes and go straight in (none of us had), or you wait in line with everyone else. You obviously are still attracted to your ex and your body language probably gave that away. She wanted to one up you to try and put things back into her favor and get a reaction out of…
/r/seduction26/07/10 10:01 PM
3

I think that she was definitely interested. We did kiss. Maybe the interest fell off? Hard to tell what was on her mind. On the rest, I agree with you.
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:46 PM
1

Why am I being downvoted?
/r/seduction26/07/10 05:26 PM
1

Thanks bro, agreed. Further discussion: isn't meeting 9 days in a row excessive, at first? Just asking for other people's opinions. Probably, but then again most of the time it was her asking me out...
/r/seduction26/07/10 04:55 PM
1

Girls will get interested in you. She's single at a party so she's probably looking to hook up with someone. And you were there. You should've made a move. This is a moment thing, next time you meet she might not be interested anymore. So don't waste any opportunities.
/r/seduction26/07/10 03:35 PM
1

IMNSHO routines are like the little wheels bikes have for you to learn. You'll ride tumbling and almost falling down, but you'll ride... Routines such as MM are made for the average totally inept chump to score with average chicks after failing a lot and finally meeting one that likes him. In that they are succesful. Yet... Just as you can't be a good rider with training wheels eventually you have to outgrow the routines or you'll never score with hot, intelligent chicks - they'll smell your can…
/r/seduction25/07/10 02:33 PM
3

Sir, congratulations. Your FRs are clear, concise, gripping, and encouraging. I wish you boatloads of success.
/r/seduction25/07/10 02:24 PM
18

the SMILE
/r/seduction25/07/10 12:48 AM
3

from here: http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/07_Miscellaneous/bad_jokes.shtml Rating system explained. This one is quite harsh for a girl and not because of the sex-theme but rather because of the "rating girls" theme. Even while laughing at this joke, she's bound to think "I wonder what she rates ME?". Of course this could have her imagine all sorts of fun stuff like "I wonder if I'm 8 / if he'd eat me?:)" but more probably than not, rating her, even if only hypothetically, is a major turn-off…
/r/seduction24/07/10 05:04 PM
16

If he's as clingy and needy as you say you should encourage the chick to hang out with him and tell her playfully and teasingly that they'd make a good couple together. Them let the guy shoot himself on the foot, desperation pushes chicks away faster than a bear could. Specially with a confident guy around. Meanwhile you enjoy the show but don't make bad comments about the guy because then you'll come out as desperate.
/r/seduction24/07/10 04:03 AM
7

dinner and a movie? seriously?
/r/seduction23/07/10 07:10 PM
5

I think it's cool when an enlightened female offers her opinion but I have to agree that most female advice is crap, not because they want to sabotage us but because being women they don't know how to seduce other women.
/r/seduction23/07/10 12:35 AM
1

loser close? seriously if you were interested in a girl would you tell her to look you up in facebook?
/r/seduction28/06/10 04:38 AM
1

same thing as driving a bmw, there's the dude with 5 bottles in his table and all the other chumps
/r/seduction16/06/10 10:55 PM
2

you buy a bottle of vodka for 5 x what you'd pay at the market. usually there's minimum required spending for a table so you use that for the bottle. whiskey works the same except it isn't trendy anymore.
/r/seduction16/06/10 09:06 PM
-1

if you were a rich successful and busy man would you waste time with lame chatting or would you make a phone call to resolve matters quickly and efficiently?
/r/seduction07/06/10 12:51 PM
3

stop making assumptions, go out and actually talk to girls
/r/seduction21/05/10 04:48 PM
-6

if she's too shy maybe she just isn't interested?
/r/seduction19/05/10 09:08 PM
2

when in doubt, fall back to the cave man method - it's proven by thousands of jocks who still get the babes! So, are we gonna take our clothes off or what?
/r/seduction14/05/10 02:05 PM
2

Style states, together with Mystery, in one of his DVDs, that they define a "master pua" as having a 5 out of 5 success rate, in his words, out "of 5 sets you get 5 girlfriends". I do believe a 5 streak is achievable when you get to their level, though I don't see it happening for people with real lives who aren't billionaires. From my experience and observation a 20% rate is pretty great and totally achieveable (hot chicks only). 100% seems pretty easy if you include below average girls (a step…
/r/seduction13/05/10 02:59 AM
0

oh god I'm in the wrong profession
/r/seduction28/04/10 05:13 PM
1

style's future girlfriend lisa
/r/seduction27/04/10 09:20 PM
1

hehe funny how this sounds, roles reversed, exaclty like the AFC asking how to get the hot girl read "the game", in the last chapters a very similar situation is described from the pua's point of view anyways, good luck
/r/seduction27/04/10 07:18 PM
3

why waste your time behind a screen when you can meet people in person? that's the antithesis of eveything the "community" stands for
/r/seduction27/04/10 01:21 AM
3

"Hey girls look at him, he's trying to get your attention! How's he doing?" IIRC this is Mystery's... You can follow up with something like "Gee, too bad you don't have any qualities to make yourself look good and must instead try to bring me to your level"...
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:26 PM
3

asking people for the answer is weak just run another opener, or hijack the conversation back
/r/seduction19/04/10 04:54 PM
12

"It's Friday night, look like you're having fun!" we are told. Sitting down is not allowed, as that "puts us out of reach". We have to smile a lot and look confident, yet relaxed. We should take in our surroundings in case we want them to be conversation openers. Is there a jukebox? Is anyone drinking a cocktail that we can comment on? We should never embark on a night out without an accessory that could invite someone to open a conversation - a hat or a striking necklace, for instance. So far I…
/r/seduction09/02/10 08:52 PM
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