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chris1227/r/seduction22/02/15 05:16 PM
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chris1227/r/seduction07/06/15 08:28 PM
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Yeah, you have to speak. Of course. Im just saying you arent asking her about her family or job. Just keep it light and short. There isnt anything worse than having to repeat yourself 5 times. Yes you can leave earlier than the club closing...but she is there for a reason and with her friends. So she is most likely going to want to stay for a while.
/r/seduction28/02/16 09:46 PM
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Clubs are easy. Just be physical. High fives, hugs. Reach out your hand, when she takes it, pull her in. Also depends on the time of night. If its 2 hours before closing, its gonna be hard to keep the interaction going for that long...so find the peak of the interaction (the time when you are having the best vibes) and just say, I have to find a friend. Then find a way to see her later. When she sees you again she will greet you like you have known each other for years. If its later, then there …
/r/seduction27/02/16 07:07 PM
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I suggest seeing a psychologist. Thats a serious answer, not an insult. This is a place to share ideas about improving with women, sounds like your issues are deeper.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:23 PM
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Night clubs? Night clubs arent designed to be a place to sit down and have a conversation. Bars in general are supposed to be happy, forgetting places. If you are engaging, and she is interested, you will know that its working. If not, then move on. There is never 1 simple answer. 4 minutes, 35 seconds then get out. Its about reading her and reading the situation.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:22 PM
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You need to read my response again. I never once said that a group of 5 is harder. I said it takes a different approach. You are the one making assumptions about me. That I have some kind of self limiting belief. I never said every group of 5 is higher energy and celebrating something. I said its more likely. I had thought you would provide some insight, because your handle is "daygamecoach" but I dont think a good coach would so quickly label and project a negative self image on someone.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:18 PM
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I look for eye contact and open body language. If I get more than 2 seconds of eye contact, I will walk over to about 4-5 feet away. Put my hand out. When she grabs it kind of pull her in and give her a hug. If you are at the bar, you can introduce yourself and ask for her name and a few (brief) questions. Then just lead her to the dance floor. If you are already on the dance floor, just start dancing.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:10 PM
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This is super vague. Depends on the situation. Sorry but you need to be more specific in my opinion.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:21 AM
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Showing interest and respect.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:14 AM
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Have you been friendzoned? Act friendly, be mature, but you are done with her romantically. No matter what. Treat her like one of your guy friends.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:13 AM
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Friendzone her.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:10 AM
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Its 2016. Calling is weird. I wouldnt want to get called.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:09 AM
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This sort of sounds like a rich guy walking around saying "Oh man, I wish I didnt have all this money, its so hard to count it all." Having a hard time feeling sorry for you buddy.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:07 AM
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Thats a tough one. Sounds like she has you read pretty well. I dont really have any great advice to be honest, sorry. But if you want something serious open up. Be more vulnerable. Be charming, but dont use it as a shield. I will say that she seems like someone who knows what she wants...maybe she wants to be with someone who knows what they want.
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:00 AM
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I think its kind of funny that you went to the doctors to get your ears checked because you couldnt hear at a club. Thats kind of the point of a club. Very unlikely that you will find your next long term girlfriend at a club...so dont talk. Seriously. Or just use the music to get really close in order to "hear" her.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:51 AM
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What are you trying to get out of this?
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:46 AM
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Dont ask for advice, then argue with it. Listen and stop being defensive. You are fine. If she likes you, then you are fine.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:44 AM
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Body language, body language, body language. Look for eye contact. Oh, and body language. You shouldnt really need to say much more than your name.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:40 AM
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This is a great point...BUT you have to go in with much higher energy if you are going to approach a group of 5 girls. Especially because you are most likely interrupting some kind of celebration. Much more logistics involved, like giving proper attention to everyone in the group. I really do think it has to do with how you are feeling and whether you can go in with a high enough energy to take on that group of 5. Thoughts?
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:38 AM
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Asking a girl for her number in front of other people I think gets a high success rate. First of all, it shows confidence. Second, unless she is a mean person she isnt going to want to embarrass you in front of someone else, so she will say yes. Whether she is saying yes just to be nice or because she is interested is obviously something important you will have to find out about later, but if you are just talking about getting the number, then its better to do it in front of her friend.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:34 AM
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I think that guys come here not really knowing what they want. If you want a girlfriend, or to get past a first date, then dont follow the "seduction" steps for taking girls home from bars and clubs. I think the tips and tricks are great for people who genuinely get stuck and dont know what to say. Its good to have some go-to lines and convo starters.
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:28 AM
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Could see that going either way. Im a guy and Im a little creeped out by spiders. How about an interesting coffee table book. Something interactive. Coloring books are REALLY popular right now.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:40 AM
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Talk to someone (anyone) quickly. Don't sit alone for a while...people will notice this and it will start to get inside your head.
/r/seduction06/02/16 08:17 PM
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The only thing you should have done differently is had the confidence to make a move physically. You played it safe and got nothing. Remember it and improve next time.
/r/seduction20/07/15 11:21 PM
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Keep this in mind: If its easier to ask a girl out over text, its easier for her to say no over text. Talking to people is much more powerful, and they will be much more inclined to say yes. That said, asking her out over text is better than not asking.
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:47 AM
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You know what she is saying? "Well he is cute and I like him, but it has been two weeks and he hasn't made a move. I guess he isn't interested in me. Maybe he has a GF...or BF." Yes she likes you, yes make a move, yes ask for the number. Stop thinking.
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:44 AM
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Im pretty sure you were just nervous. Going in cold, and trying to close the first open of the night is tough. Especially if you haven't approached in a long time. Next time, try a few "warm up" opens first. Keep it short and simple, 5 minutes then leave. The goal is to get comfortable and to not be so nervous when it counts. Opening quickly and then leaving also opens the door for you to meet up with the girls later even if you dont do well later.
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:36 AM
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I think you should see a therapist or psychologist. You may have some PTSD or other issues regarding this incident. You should not be ashamed of this, but also this is also a serious issue that you may need advice from a professional for.
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:31 AM
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So you are really just using a classic opinion opener. The classics are classics for a reason. They work.
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:01 AM
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Ok. So he wants to text her "Can I call you?" Yeah that's a bad idea. Just call.
/r/seduction18/07/15 09:40 PM
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I am lost. How do you ask someone if its okay to call them without actually calling them?
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:53 PM
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Seems like this is pretty easily preventable.
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:48 PM
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Here is where you fucked up: My girl gets touchy with me and I don't escalate much because I was not too decided on where I wanted it to go. You rejected her and then wonder why she lost interest in you? Not escalating is telling her that you aren't interested. And you said yourself that you weren't sure where you wanted it to go. Why are you surprised? Touching you and telling you that you may get to see her tattoos is a green light. You should have at LEAST gotten a make out. --- By the way, m…
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:45 PM
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If you are an idiot, you will do this.
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:35 PM
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Cant really see anything you did horribly wrong here. You do the same thing to 10 women and 7 will give you their number just based on this info. Only thing I can tell you is that she seemed like she was challenging your wits when she said "oh this is where you try to pick me up?" (or just annoyed depending on tone...hard to tell here). You did fine. A lesser man would have said no. Maybe a more fun response would have been something alex0919 said or what came to my mind was: "Wow, thats a littl…
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:34 PM
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Your post is long, but vague. Not enough detail to really determine what went wrong here. You may have not escalated fast enough and they got bored. But that is really just guessing. They could have just wanted drinks. Who knows. It sounds like you are a little timid (just based on the little detail you gave). Girls are going to flake a lot on you and do this until you learn to escalate. You should have been all over that as soon as she winked. Like 5 seconds after. No pep talk. Go for it. Thats…
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:24 PM
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I think you should let her decide. She is a guest in your house, so you should do what you can to make her feel comfortable and not pressured to leave or stay. I mean what are you going to do, tell her she has to leave?
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:17 PM
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Follow up question -- Is this literally the first thing you say or is there a transition from hello to getting to this topic? If you dont mind...would you give an example of how you go from hello to talking about dating, etc. Dont get me wrong, I think its a good idea. Just not clear on how to go from Hello to "How do you feel about a guy that splits checks".
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:14 PM
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If you are desperate, "where are you from" can be perfectly acceptable as long as it isn't part of a long line of interview questions. If you actually listen to her answer and expand on it, it is okay. (what made you move here? what do you miss about it? OH ive never been would you recommend visiting? Oh I have been, I love this about it...) Cliche becomes cliche because it works. Not because its bad. Where guys get into trouble is if they say, where are you from? OK cool. What do you do? OK coo…
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:13 PM
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Just go out a little later than usual. I end up breaking away from my friends for one reason or another at a certain point of the night so if you are not comfortable with saying you are out alone, just say your friends are lame, got tired and left (or some other excuse). If you are inside your head about it, pretend you are on a business trip on your own. That's a normal situation why someone might be by themselves. I know this is kind of lame, but think about James Bond. He is always by himself…
/r/seduction18/07/15 08:02 PM
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How did you create a fake Facebook page? Don't you have to have over 50 friends to be on Tinder?
/r/seduction13/06/15 01:32 PM
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Uh, you need to pay. It's panera bread dude. Fork over the $8.50. We don't want you to buy drinks because you are spending money on a girl that may not be interested in you. This girl is interested, has agreed to go on a date that you invited her to...PAY. End of discussion.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:32 AM
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I feel like 95% of this post is just bragging. Dear penthouse... You are fine. Stop overthinking it and get out of your own head. Why are you "sensing" what she is thinking? Stop trying to sense things. She likes you and you like her. So go for it.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:22 AM
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Ever seen What About Bob? Baby steps. Baby steps...walk up to a girl, say hi, introduce yourself and ask her how her night is going. Then say ok I have to get back to what I was doing but have a great rest of the night. Is that going to get you laid? Nope. But you are going to realize that approaching is no big deal. Nobody is going to laugh at you or throw a drink in your face for being a genuine nice person. Then baby steps to the next level.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:18 AM
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Is this a legit question? Why would 30 be too late? What other choice do you have, giving up and being alone forever? It does NOT take 2 years to get this. Sometimes it takes more time, sometimes less. Depends on the work you want to put into it.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:11 AM
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Thats true. Never said I came up with it.
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:07 AM
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Agree...but would also add that this rule applies to all situations, not just bars.
/r/seduction07/06/15 08:14 PM
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I third what young god said. Green light.
/r/seduction07/06/15 08:11 PM
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face palm
/r/seduction07/06/15 08:10 PM
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I usually open with: (girls name)! For example: mc2157! Response from girl 90% of the time: chris1227! Not exactly re-inventing the wheel, but its a bit more original than just Hi or Hey. You dont want to waste your time crafting a really detailed first message when she may not even respond. So this lets you know she is at least interested enough to start a conversation and then you can take it from there.
/r/seduction07/06/15 08:06 PM
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If she is saying that, its not a good sign. You have been friendzoned. Best option now is to be honest and tell her that you want it to be a date. She will probably say no, but better than torturing yourself and wasting your time. You will get over it.
/r/seduction07/06/15 08:02 PM
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Yeah. Its a combination of acting fast and not caring about the outcome. I'm not a mystery advocate...but his 3 second rule is spot on. I don't think it necessarily has to be 3 seconds, but the faster you act, the less time you have to think about the what-ifs. The first thing I would do if I were you is when you get to a bar talk to girls immediately. Talk to the first few girls you see without any intention of making a move. Its practice. Its also to train your mind to not care so much if you …
/r/seduction02/05/15 11:31 PM
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This is really easy. You are over-thinking everything. Its NEVER going to be the perfect moment. NEVER. Waiting for the perfect moment is a cop out and an excuse to not make a move. Be more polarizing. Get a yes or a no. A no is ALWAYS better than a maybe. You are dangerously close to being friend zoned. If you are dancing with a girl and not escalating rapidly or she isn't letting you escalate then there is a problem (in most cases). I wouldn't read too much into the shots thing, because it sou…
/r/seduction02/05/15 03:33 PM
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I have to disagree with your advice. In my opinion, he is thinking WAY too much about everything. Giving him more to think about is going to make him more hesitant.
/r/seduction02/05/15 03:25 PM
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Agree with first two paragraphs...then things get a little creepy there buddy.
/r/seduction02/05/15 03:24 PM
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What does lifting and not eating simple carbs have to do with anything??
/r/seduction02/05/15 03:18 PM
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Not sure if that's a joke, but if that were to actually work on a girl, I wouldn't want her anyways.
/r/seduction24/02/15 12:19 AM
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I know lots of gay guys that are extremely assertive and aggressive. I still don't understand how being assertive is going to separate me from a gay guy. I'm not sure how to be more assertive when all I do is walk up, say hi introduce myself. I've literally been asked that quickly.
/r/seduction24/02/15 12:18 AM
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What have I said that makes you think I'm not being assertive?
/r/seduction23/02/15 08:05 PM
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Right. I get what you are saying and I'm not looking for a magic pill at all. Just looking for some new things to try out to see if they have success.
/r/seduction23/02/15 12:11 AM
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To me that is you saying that gay people don't have confident body language and don't make eye contact. I didn't want this discussion to go into this direction. I can handle the behavior side myself. I was just looking for some fun comebacks and phrases to say back. That's all.
/r/seduction22/02/15 11:56 PM
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Here is what I don't get: How is "be a MAN" advice? That's just some generic bullshit that people say when they don't have anything specific but still want to comment. Be a man isn't something I can say, its not an action I can do. If you think about it, it really doesn't mean anything. Someone can act like a man in a lot of different ways. I am actually not a beginner and I approach girls all the time. I'm trying to get over this one road block, I am not completely inept.
/r/seduction22/02/15 11:18 PM
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Thanks. I actually do watch a lot of RSD and do like them. I think the reason girls may think I'm gay is bc I dress well and when I raise my voice (club) it tends to have a tone that comes across that way. I'm working on it but I was looking for some good things to say because usually I just kind of figure it's a lost cause and leave the set.
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:06 PM
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Thanks for trying to help. But you are making a lot of assumptions and you seem a little out of touch with reality.
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:03 PM
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What do you mean don't look gay? How old are you?
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:29 PM
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Yeah I've tried this out. And variations of this and I've had some level of success. I just think it's sometimes not appropriate to escalate that quickly. Most of the time it's one of the first things a girl will say.
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:19 PM
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Okay I really appreciate the time you took to write all that out. I just don't see how any of that answers the original question I had.
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:13 PM
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Could you provide a real world example of what you mean by this: letting the girl know youre attracted to her. Maybe something you would do or say?
/r/seduction22/02/15 05:59 PM
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First thing: I agree with everything recyclablebantha said. My approach is usually I see a cute girl walking on the street... My first thought is that if you are using the same or similar approach for every girl no matter what the situation is, it probably sounds rehearsed. I dont know you or your mindset, but your posts sound like when you are approaching girls, its a job, and its not fun for you. Kind of like you might as well be selling life insurance door to door. It HAS to be fun for you or…
/r/seduction29/06/14 04:16 PM
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Its pretty simple. She gave you the number because she didnt want to feel awkward or reject you to your face. But she doesnt have any intention of wanting to go out. You didnt make a strong enough connection face to face...or she just wasnt interested. Either way move on and try to improve next time. One thing about girls is that if they are into you...you will know. They will text back.
/r/seduction29/06/14 04:03 PM
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Then your mistake is assuming that every guy that gets into pickup has deep emotional issues to solve. RSD is a tool in my tool belt. I use it when Im going out to a club and just want to have fun and hook up with a girl. I dont use it to try to improve my life or my social skills or when Im trying to find a girlfriend. Who cares if its a band aid solution? Sometimes all you have is a cut that needs a band aid, not surgery.
/r/seduction25/06/14 11:59 PM
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Ok, that's one philosophy. But it's not the only way. And it doesn't mean that if we don't follow your way that we have deep emotional issues. That's offensive. Just because I'm using seduction methods to seduce girls means I have emotional issues?? I take issue with that. If you don't think women love to be around the RSD guys then you need to watch some of their videos.
/r/seduction25/06/14 05:54 AM
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But at the end of the day, /r/seduction's primary goal is not to help guys get laid as much as possible (or at least it shouldn't be). This might get buried but whatever. I take exception to the fact that you are saying that pickup and seduction can only be what your definition is. Why do you get to say what it should or shouldn't be? I may agree with you that RSD isn't going to make you a better person or help you with other areas of your life. But maybe some of us are happy in the other parts …
/r/seduction24/06/14 03:26 AM
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Dont worry about length. If its good content, we will read it. Just remember that people come here for selfish reasons. We want to learn something that we can go out and apply. Dont make it about your story...make it about what you did and what we can learn from it.
/r/seduction21/06/14 06:27 PM
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So... A girl invites her to her (or her friends) house. Cooks you dinner. Walks you to your car when you leave. I wasnt there...but from what it sounds like you had the green light to get more than her number. Dont be afraid to escalate! If a girl is sending you those kind of signals and you DONT do anything she is gonna think you arent interested. Thats way worse than being too aggressive. Next time you guys hang out...escalate fast.
/r/seduction21/06/14 06:15 PM
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Dude if you ever come to San Diego please please let me know! First round on me.
/r/seduction21/06/14 06:09 PM
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This might be late...but its the best advice for Vegas: Commit. Whatever you do...do it 100%. Dont go into an approach half way because girls can sense that hesitation. Girls want a guy in Vegas that is focused and goal oriented, and Im talking about knowing what you want that night and never deviating from that mission. Every girl knows why a guy goes to Vegas. Dont try to be that nice guy who goes in half way because you are scared she will say no. If she says no, who cares, there is a hotter …
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:58 PM
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But if you are trying to learn how to swim, it doesnt help for someone to say "just jump in and do it". You have to learn the steps. Same thing applies here. Rather than just saying you had "intoxicating swagger", a good field report would have been describing how and why you had "intoxicating swagger". What did you do (stood up straight, smiled, etc)? Rather than just saying you built rapport. Tell us how you did it. Did you talk about where they were from? Did you talk about what they were dri…
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:52 PM
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You stole my comment. Couldnt agree more. Kaan, you are waaaay too needy. I would also that she is 27 and a professional with clients who cant be sitting by her phone and answering your texts while she is training someone.
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:41 PM
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Wow, this is great advice...I cant wait to go out and use what I have learned from this. Oh wait, its not advice...its just you bragging. My mistake.
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:35 PM
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Yeah, to be honest I am not great about approaching girls in groups of three or more. So I might not be the best to answer as far as specifics. Were the 3 girls at a table and you at the bar? But as far as your general problem, why dont you try going to a trendy bar a little earlier than usual. When it is still slow. Maybe talk to the bartender to just get in a more social mindset. Then just talk to the people who are already there...establish some rapport. Then when the bar picks up and has a l…
/r/seduction22/05/14 08:23 PM
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Hey guys, respectfully the three of you are cute, however I’d like to borrow your friend with your permission to get to know her”. I dont like the way this sounds. You are almost apologizing for being attracted to them. This sounds way too timid. You can be respectful without telling them that you are being respectful. Show them that you can be respectful, but also have fun. You are also asking to borrow her before you know anything about her. You need to engage the group and have some kind of c…
/r/seduction22/05/14 06:19 PM
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Why are you criticizing him for having success? Look, the routines and games arent my style either, but if it works, it works. Maybe he is completely secure and feels great about himself and just enjoys the games. Dont hate on someone just because they arent doing it exactly how you do it. He just needs a little more experience and courage to know when to close. Which he could have.
/r/seduction21/05/14 06:14 PM
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Ugh, I see where you are coming from. If you over-analyze it, it kinda sounds like he is gonna cut her hair off and add it to his collection. But it always depends on how you say it, not what you say. Im sure if it was a genuine compliment, it was fine.
/r/seduction21/05/14 05:50 PM
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I seriously thought about just going down to her seat and sitting next to her, but I got in my head and that was too forward even for myself. Tried this once. Was creepy.
/r/seduction20/05/14 03:52 AM
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having a high value lifestyle, building an attractive social circle, and displaying an assertive, confident attitude will have the high quality women coming to you before you even need to say a word. I understand that this is your message. But the problem is that telling someone you need to act this way is different than telling people how to act that way. Its a subtle but crucial difference. I think that your story is a great EXAMPLE of how using the philosophy of seddit works. But its not a gr…
/r/seduction20/05/14 03:50 AM
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I am super happy for you, and Im not calling you out. I just dont feel like this is a field report. You are focusing too much on WHAT happened...rather than HOW it happened. Here is the seddit definition of field report in their rules and guidelines: Great field reports focus on the techniques, mindsets and phrases you specifically used that changed the course of the night to being successful. A good FR says "This is what I did, and why it worked". While we appreciate functional Field Reports, o…
/r/seduction20/05/14 02:18 AM
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Why so hostile? Its a fun story...its just not a field report. Just because its long doesnt mean its informative. Its basically just telling a story about how he went out, didnt give a fuck (most overused term in here) and had fun and got laid. Is there really anything in the post that you learned from? Go back and read what a field report actually is and tell me this is one.
/r/seduction19/05/14 10:57 PM
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Cool story bro but this isnt a field report. Its bragging.
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:52 PM
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Agree. I cant stand his teaching method...would never attend a lecture. But I get a lot from watching him in action. He is just too high energy, and gets off on tangents.
/r/seduction15/05/14 09:38 PM
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Could you maybe give an example of how a conversation like that would go or at least how it would start? I like the idea...just cant figure out how to make it work without sounding like a game of 20 questions.
/r/seduction15/05/14 09:28 PM
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Oh I see what you are saying. Yeah Im not sure I agree.
/r/seduction14/05/14 04:38 PM
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Dont these rules apply in a club no matter what you wear?
/r/seduction13/05/14 10:34 PM
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Better to SHOW her that you have value than to TELL her you have value.
/r/seduction08/05/14 10:48 PM
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I was just giving you a hard time. Good FR. I tend to have my best successes alone also. Even if Im with friends, my best chance is to break away from them and go to the bar for a few minutes.
/r/seduction07/05/14 06:44 PM
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I really liked the part where the blonde girl from the bar on her phone went from a 7 to an 8 as the night goes on, haha.
/r/seduction07/05/14 05:29 PM
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In my opinion dinner puts a lot of pressure on things, especially if this is the first time meeting her in person, and especially if you met on tinder. If you read Models, you know about investment. Planning a dinner date with someone is a lot of investment...and this is a person you dont know if you will have any chemistry at all with. If you live downtown, pick a trendy bar to have a drink at around 830. Snacks or appetizers are fine. If you dont drink or wanna be more creative, go on a hike o…
/r/seduction07/05/14 05:15 PM
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Oh thats funny. The owner did an AMA here a while ago. At least he was the owner back then. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/t06uw/iama_san_diego_nightclub_owner_im_24_and_have_had/ I live in SD, havent checked out Spin yet...but you should go downtown and check out Fluxx and some of those clubs. They are pretty fun too!
/r/seduction07/05/14 04:27 PM
2

Please tell me you are in High School too.
/r/seduction05/05/14 10:22 PM
2

I bet this would work more often than you think. People tend to say yes when they are put on the spot without even thinking about it or realizing it. If you walk up and say it with confidence, and dont backpedal...it will work. Maybe you should try it and tell us whether or not it will work for everyone or just this guy. Ironically, the fact that you are convinced it wont work for you is probably the reason that it doesnt.
/r/seduction05/05/14 10:10 PM
1

This is not a FR. This is called bragging.
/r/seduction05/05/14 07:03 PM
1

Which club were you at?
/r/seduction05/05/14 06:56 PM
4

Just curious, did you see this approach on youtube? I saw a similar thing with the guys going around a campus doing exactly this and it worked really well. Anyways, the reason you got the number is because you had a major "I dont give a fuck" attitude. Dont lose that congruency. Dont start pleading with her to text her back. Dont text her first. If she doesnt text, move on. thats the only way this type of approach works and will actually get you more than a #. But its a great way to build up som…
/r/seduction29/04/14 07:31 PM
2

I have to disagree with you here. Its not putting her on a pedastal. The reason this approach works is because you arent investing anything into her other than asking for a #. You dont know anything about her, but all you are doing is asking for her #. You arent telling her she is amazing, you arent seeking her approval, you arent being needy in any way. What I will agree with however is that this approach isnt going to get a high success rate as far as following up. You are right, there wasnt a…
/r/seduction29/04/14 07:24 PM
1

If you need more info on it when relating to this stuff, read into Mark Manson. Even just reading his 2 AMAs (sidebar) will help.
/r/seduction26/04/14 01:01 AM
1

Best option is just to get out of their way and let them figure out if they like each other, agree? He should take the opportunity to leave them alone as much as possible. Fake a phone call an hour in and leave. Something like that.
/r/seduction25/04/14 06:56 PM
2

How about this: Do you have a dog? What kind? Im looking for dog parks in the area, do you know of any? Cool maybe we can go together.
/r/seduction25/04/14 06:48 PM
2

Baby steps. ...baby step onto the elevator... baby step into the elevator... I'm in the elevator. AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
/r/seduction25/04/14 06:40 PM
1

Because women get drugged and kidnapped by creepers like you. :) Why not try a college campus? Should be plenty of attractive women by themselves.
/r/seduction24/04/14 09:37 PM
22

Tell him to go up to women and say "are you my new mommy?" Ice...broken.
/r/seduction24/04/14 09:21 PM
1

I would do whatever it takes to get her out of her work environment. Ask her to go hiking. Ask her to see a concert. Then try to pick up on signals whether they be positive or negative.
/r/seduction23/04/14 04:26 PM
5

Women who are hired and being paid to be nice to you are always tricky to read. I dont want to burst your bubble, but all of the examples you gave just seem like a bartender being nice and giving good service to a regular customer. That however doesnt mean she doesnt like you...I just dont see it from those examples. I would still ask for her number in a casual way and then try to escalate outside of her work. Just come up with something more interesting to do than going to a bar. Bonus question…
/r/seduction22/04/14 08:18 PM
3

You are wrong to assume that because PU uses scientific ideas such as evolutionary biology that it is a science.
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:22 PM
2

Sounds like Thrillist.
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:17 PM
3

This reminds me of the Louis CK bit about a bunch of guys going out looking for the exact right amount of girls to match with their group.
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:17 PM
5

OK Im gonna be an ass hole here, and OP Im not trying to pick a fight, but Im so tired of these types of questions. This is a seduction subreddit. You are not asking a seduction question, you are asking a morals question. Why are you asking a bunch of random people on the internet what you should do morally? Do whatever you want. Thats not really for us to decide, its for you to decide.
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:54 PM
1

I could see it being bad for you after a while. The first reason is that if you are spending all of your time here, you arent spending it getting better. Its like spending all of your time reading self help books but not following any of the advice. Another reason is that there are so many opinions, so many different and conflicting theories that your perspective could be clouded. I think it is really important to find the style that works for you and stick with it. Sometimes advice here can go …
/r/seduction13/03/14 05:42 PM
2

Im sorry dude...I think that opener is cringe-worthy.
/r/seduction13/03/14 05:17 PM
5

Here, try some of this $8 green beer thats DERFINITELY not Bud Light with green food coloring!
/r/seduction11/03/14 07:05 PM
11

Best. Job. Ever.
/r/seduction11/03/14 06:43 PM
2

Can I ask how much you have spent total on bootcamps...and is it worth it? Is it something that has stuck with you or do you lose it if you dont go out for, say a month? Ive found with "bootcamp" style pickup, where you just approach as many people as you can, you feel really good that weekend, and maybe it carries over for a little while, but eventually you loose that confidence spike. I like the idea of knowing who to approach and knowing how to maximize results better than just approaching ev…
/r/seduction11/03/14 06:39 PM
7

No offense, but you are a piece of garbage. Oh, wait...no I meant that to be offensive.
/r/seduction11/03/14 06:19 PM
8

Pro tip? Are you saying you are a professional at threesomes?
/r/seduction11/03/14 06:04 PM
2

Cant tell if this is sarcastic or serious.........
/r/seduction10/03/14 09:08 PM
2

Im confused. Are you saying you were trying to get your cousin's phone number?
/r/seduction10/03/14 09:07 PM
3

Agree with all of these. Can I add one: Next her. Why its right: There are of course certain situations in which a girl is clearly not interested, and the guy is wasting his time trying to force a situation that isnt gonna happen. Why its wrong: Its just not constructive advice. Its lazy, and anyone can say it. Its used way too much. Every single FR and question has one person just telling him to "next" the girl and give up. You grow a lot more by overcoming a small obstacle or setback rather th…
/r/seduction10/03/14 08:42 PM
1

It sounds like you have one-itis and have been friendzoned all at once. You need to hit on girls right in front of her. Ignore her. This is your ONLY chance of getting anywhere with her.
/r/seduction07/03/14 08:34 PM
1

Wait...are you this guy? http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1zthbs/fr_having_too_much_fun/
/r/seduction07/03/14 08:04 PM
2

Agree with everything you said except #3. I dont see anything wrong with talking about gaming. Its what he is into. If he is looking for a girl to date, he probably wants to share his passions. How is it any different than talking about sports, or movies or hiking? If you are a nerd, thats awesome. Own it and embrace it. From what he said, she didnt recoil in horror when he said he was a gamer, she actually seemed interested. Women like a man who has interests and are passionate about things. As…
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:40 PM
3

Uh, he danced. It was ugly. He didnt get laid. What more info do you need, brah?
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:32 PM
1

Made me laugh. Fuck it...upvote.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:31 PM
1

I use RSD's advice for nightgame techniques. In my opinion, there isnt any better advice out there if you just want to go out, have a good time, and make out with a girl in less than 5 minutes. I would never pay for RSD lectures. I find Tyler especially to be a bit long winded, and most of his advice is too "rah-rah" for me and not enough substance. For inner game, day game, and personal improvement I look towards David Wygant and Mark Manson.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:27 PM
1

Not to mention it looks like he made it all up anyways.
/r/seduction27/02/14 09:27 PM
2

I could be wrong, but I think its a crossover from the video game culture a lot of the original PUA people were a part of. Either way, I agree that its creepy. Another one I hate is "sarge". What the hell does that even mean? Is it that hard to just say "go out"?
/r/seduction27/02/14 08:26 PM
3

Well said.
/r/seduction27/02/14 08:23 PM
1

I really dont understand this FR. She seems into you, you seem into her. You are acting really needy, but who cares if its not scaring her away...it doesnt seem to be bothering her. What is your question? What to do about the bet? Who gives a shit! Do whatever you want. Every time someone gives you advice about how to handle your bet you argue with them. If you honestly want my advice, it would be that this girl wants you bad. This saturday, go for it. If she calls you out about the bet, just te…
/r/seduction27/02/14 07:28 PM
2

I think what I can improve on is add a little kino or physical touch as the only time I touched her was to shake her hand. Honestly, if she is working, I would stay away from the touching. If she goes out with you in a social setting, then go for it. But you dont want to creep a girl out if she is working and being paid to be nice. Its easy to misread those signals.
/r/seduction27/02/14 07:09 PM
1

In the video he actually approached the girl's friend first to get the number, then programmed it in as " the cute girl next to me". So when he asked siri to call "the cute girl next to me" it did. Kind of a let down...but you can still do what OP did!
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:29 PM
1

Those girls seem jealous that you are with their friend, and not with one of them.
/r/seduction19/02/14 11:26 PM
1

Hey, I appreciate the detail in this post. There is a lot, but you also go through a lot of different interactions. I feel like this deserves and equally thought out response. I am not you and could be totally wrong about this...so keep in mind I wasnt there, and I can never know exactly what happened. Disclaimer over. I think you are in your head a bit too much. You probably already know that. I think I can tell that you are searching for the next clever thing to say or the next joke instead of…
/r/seduction19/02/14 11:14 PM
1

Advanced PUA: Actually has a busy, interesting life and has to work hard to call girls back as soon as he can so as to not look rude and disinterested. This one stood out to me. Not that I am The Most Interesting Man in the World, but back when I was an "AFC" I couldnt IMAGINE not following up with a girl or not texting her daily. When I was in my intermediate stages, I would stop myself from texting to create the appearance of being busy. But I wasnt. Now...I honestly do just lose contact and f…
/r/seduction19/02/14 09:54 PM
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And the guys that are trying to fuck "unavailable" girls are probably more emotionally needy than guys who have no game at all. They are doing it for validation.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:26 PM
2

Why does walking away mean you have been defeated? Sometimes walking away from a woman is the most powerful, attractive thing you can do. If she is really throwing a shit test at you, she is probably expecting a stupid line, or for you to still give her attention and act needy. If you do the opposite and walk away with dignity, she might immediately want you more.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:52 PM
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Hm. I agree with you. You get downvoted (a lot here, Ive noticed) because you come off as a little abrasive, but that doesnt mean you are wrong. Fighting through someone who is telling you she has a bf could work. Maybe. But why fight an uphill battle when you can turn around and talk to a girl who isnt gonna throw that obstacle at you.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:47 PM
1

Im pretty sure just making things up will get you the same results as studying for hours and hours.
/r/seduction18/02/14 08:51 PM
1

Cool. Ill try it, although I sort of am an athletic type so Im not sure how well it will work. I tend to think that anything works...it just depends on whether or not the girl is active on the app. I have gotten good responses from "Hey" and Ive been ignored with really detailed creative openers. A lot of times I use "I think you made a great choice!" You get a lot of playful responses back. You also get a lot of "You are the one that made a good choice" back and then you can say "prove it" or s…
/r/seduction18/02/14 08:47 PM
1

Why do you think this work for you? Are you not a "jock type?"
/r/seduction18/02/14 08:23 PM
2

OK, I didnt mean that you were angry as if you were throwing things across the room...but when you call something horrible it indicates some level of displeasure. I think its just a different approach to use. I would never say only use Tinder, but I would never say only approach at bars, or only use Match.com. It absolutely works for some people so I dont think its "horrible".
/r/seduction14/02/14 10:18 PM
2

Why are you so angry? Its a tool. Ive never read anyone here say it should replace real life game...but why not use it for fun?
/r/seduction14/02/14 06:38 PM
5

I think it works, especially since its also a friday night. Ive been out on Valentines day and it was fun...a little slower than most regular nights, but like you said, every girl out you know is single.
/r/seduction13/02/14 10:10 PM
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I dont mean to be the one to burst the bubble...but the majority of my matches come after Ive liked them. Sometimes even days or weeks later. I really dont think there is that much thought to it...I think its just random. Ive done both, I left it alone for about 6 months (in a relationship) and I have also plowed through...and honestly I dont see any trends.
/r/seduction13/02/14 10:06 PM
0

I am not saying you are jealous, but you (and others who are focusing in on his looks) sound incredibly jealous. Which is an unattractive quality. Yeah, he has confidence and looks, but so what? You dont know anything else about this guy. Its very possible you have something that he doesnt have that you can use to get an edge. OK, he catches the eye of a bartender every once in a while. Thats his strike zone. Maybe your strike zone isnt in bars, maybe its somewhere else where you can stand out. …
/r/seduction12/02/14 06:25 PM
0

Because when you are drunk, you are present.
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:48 PM
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You can tell this is different than just a number. This girl is into OP. Every guy here who wonders why a girl isnt texting him back needs to read this story and realize what it looks/sounds like when a girl is actually interested rather than just giving out a number to be nice or avoid an awkward situation.
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:44 PM
1

Jealous.
/r/seduction07/02/14 05:50 PM
1

That they somehow have the ability to see through my game and into the bitter spiteful whatever guy I am? Actually, yeah. You would probably be surprised at how intuitive women are, and how they can sense authenticity. Thats why a line can work for one guy, and bomb for another. I reference RSD for clubs. When you cant have a conversation and its about being physical and non-verbal. I wouldnt suggest using RSD in any other situation really. Wouldnt suggest their camps or cult or anything. But on…
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:18 PM
1

Im not gonna argue. Thats not what this place is for. You are a really spiteful, angry person and thats why you dont get girls. Nothing to do with looks. I hope you someday find the happiness you currently lack.
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:47 AM
1

OK, lets get one thing out of the way. If he is looking for a long term relationship, then we agree, he shouldnt be in clubs. Correct me if I am wrong but he never said he was looking for a long term relationship. Second, I find it interesting that you assume he isnt good looking. Why? Anyways, I agree, looks will give you an advantage. You probably dont have to try as hard if you look like a male model. But its not the end all be all. Ive seen too many 8s and 9s stumble and fumble their way aro…
/r/seduction04/02/14 04:48 AM
1

Wait...you did 100+ approaches...and didnt get 1 phone number. And this is somehow everyone elses fault but your own? Wake up...you were doing something wrong! And it has nothing to do with looks so stop using that as an excuse and take a look at yourself in the mirror!
/r/seduction03/02/14 11:15 PM
1

Not looks, presentation. Be presentable. Dress nicely, be well groomed, care about how you present yourself, but not about how you look. Next time you go to a club, watch and mimic Tyler/Owen from RSD. You can see tons of footage of him doing his thing in clubs on YouTube. And by the way, he isnt what you would call traditionally attractive. He is not tall, chisled, or whatever bullshit excuse major_tom38 wants to use for his own lack of success. The main thing to remember about clubs is to not …
/r/seduction03/02/14 11:07 PM
1

Why would his confidence be wrecked? The only thing that I can see that is wrecking his confidence is your bullshit comments.
/r/seduction03/02/14 11:00 PM
1

This is not true. At all. Girls will respond if you dress well, have a sense of style, and you dont look like a slob. I dont know how you could think looks have anything to do with anything if you have even spent one day learning about this stuff.
/r/seduction03/02/14 10:58 PM
1

With your attitude...I find it hard to believe you cant make friends. Oh, that was sarcasm.
/r/seduction03/02/14 10:52 PM
1

If you are a virgin by choice, own it and be proud and dont feel ashamed of it. Its your choice. If you are a virgin, but not by choice...lie. Hate to say it, but lie to girls and lie to yourself until it happens. This will take a lot of the pressure off. I dont think its a problem that you want to make sure you know a girl first. Just be upfront about that part so that the girls dont feel rejected.
/r/seduction03/02/14 09:29 PM
2

My trick for going out alone: Act like your friends are there, but you just wandered away from them for a second. 90% of my approaches happen like this anyways. Whats the difference? Another trick is to talk to people almost immediately. Dont be the guy at the bar sitting there alone staring at your drink for an hour. You will get inside your head. If you find yourself doing that, literally leave that place and go to a new bar and start fresh.
/r/seduction27/01/14 10:13 PM
1

do you mind if I sit here, the beach is super crowded Wow. I LOVE that. Especially if the beach is empty and you say it in a joking way. I will be stealing it.
/r/seduction27/01/14 06:57 PM
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Haha, Im just picturing guys going to gyms fake yawning every 30 seconds then quickly looking around. Good idea though!
/r/seduction23/01/14 09:34 PM
1

I dont think there is a consensus. Some say never do it, some say do whatever you want. So its probably somewhere in between. If I was going to do it, I wouldnt ask at work. I would invite her out for lunch or after work happy hour and try to talk to her there. That way you are out of the work environment.
/r/seduction23/01/14 09:31 PM
1

If you get something as vague as "another time", it's almost as good as a no. It depends on how she says it. Im sure you can make "whats your schedule" work...just like you can make virtually anything work. I guess its just not congruent with my personality. This is merely about making sure you get a date with a girl who is interested before she forgets why she's interested in you. What are you dating goldfish? What do you mean she forgets? Give the girl a little credit...if you attract her, she…
/r/seduction22/01/14 05:13 PM
1

Read Mark Manson's book Models. Today. Anything I was gonna say would just be plagiarizing him anyways.
/r/seduction21/01/14 11:51 PM
3

OK, I am not a "guru" or anything. So I will say this, for bar/club game, I go with RSD. Really quick and direct. Escalate kino and intensity very quickly. Ive stopped looking for relationships at bars so Im really just out to have fun and see what I can get away with. And for real life, where I could actually meet someone I would want to date (daytime, parties, hanging with a group of friends), I use a combo of Mark Manson and David Wygant. Direct, honest. Make observations about your surroundi…
/r/seduction21/01/14 11:19 PM
1

You are overthinking it. But I dont really do the whole "pickup line/routine" thing anyways...so maybe your question is better for someone who does.
/r/seduction21/01/14 10:50 PM
5

Yeah I think your problem is somewhere else. Not the way you are asking them out. if they were really interested they would've contacted me first This is generally the case. If a girl is into you, you will know! And she will make it work. Dont force it...if you force it, you risk taking a girl out who isnt 100% into you anyways...and then its just a waste of time/money.
/r/seduction21/01/14 10:28 PM
3

Seems like a great excuse! You probably shouldnt approach anyone. Who cares if people know you? If you dont want people knowing what you are doing or are ashamed of what you are doing...then dont do it! Why do you think that bars are the only place to go to meet women?
/r/seduction21/01/14 10:22 PM
3

I will usually give a girl 2 "chances". So if she says she is busy, say "ok, no problem, we will do it another time." If she responds positively...then wait a little while (a few days at least) and try to schedule one more date. If she still just says she is busy and doesnt say "but how about ____day?" then I let it go. Hope that helps.
/r/seduction21/01/14 10:11 PM
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I disagree with you actually. Im sure it works for you and thats fine. But to me, asking "what does your schedule look like this week" sounds like you are setting up a business meeting. Its kind of cold. To me. I agree that a girl WILL at LEAST say "lets do it another time though!" if she is into you. If not, then you have your answer. Its a no. Not trying to start an argument...just pointing out that there are other perspectives. All of PUA is about maximizing efficiency. This I also disagree w…
/r/seduction21/01/14 09:57 PM
2

you were initially planning to go to said place alone Good point. This method only works if its GENUINE. What an incredible idea...be real and honest. If you werent initially planning on going to said place alone then DONT USE THIS METHOD!! As long as you avoid this: "Oh you are busy thurs? how about fri? no? How about sat? How about sunday? How about sunday night?" You will be fine.
/r/seduction21/01/14 09:53 PM
12

Not having any other furniture other than a bed... Hmm you may be on to something there.
/r/seduction21/01/14 09:45 PM
1

I say just play it cool. Respond back to her text with something simple, but since you will see her in class later, wait to ask her on a date in person. I think you could say something like, since you are sick of coffee, how about a hike (or something similar).
/r/seduction21/01/14 08:09 PM
1

Do you have a link to a video of him doing this? I like the idea but dont know exactly what it is.
/r/seduction17/01/14 07:33 PM
1

Haha. Good for you for being able to share the story. I obviously think the last thing you said was kinda weird considering how the night went. But I dont think you did anything wrong up until that point. She just seems really shy. It doesnt sound like there is anything more you could do to open her up. I can see why she has problems keeping guys attention. I would say hi at the party, be friendly, but dont make any attempt to pick her up.
/r/seduction17/01/14 07:14 PM
2

How long have you been on? For the first month or so I only got maybe 5 or 6 matches. Now I get on average 1 a day. I didnt change anything. I think it just takes some time for the girls to get around to your picture. I dont really have any tips on how to improve your odds because I have changed my pictures around and changed what my profile says, and nothing really makes a difference as far as matches go. Just have a good profile picture that shows your face and have a few after that showing th…
/r/seduction17/01/14 06:51 PM
5

Sorry, I hate this. Why not go after the girl YOU want no matter how hot she is?
/r/seduction03/01/14 11:52 PM
4

Make it a game. Make rejection fun. Come up with the stupidest lines you can think of and challenge your friend. You pick the line, you pick the girl, and he has to say it to her. Then have him pick a line and girl and you have to say his line. This game wont get you laid, but those approach anxiety butterflies will for sure go away after the 4th or 5th girl of the night. Plus its hilarious.
/r/seduction03/01/14 11:49 PM
3

She seems into you. You seem into her. Relax and have fun! Who gives a shit what the next step is?
/r/seduction03/01/14 11:40 PM
2

She replied saying she had a good time but she hadn't decided on getting her number. This is probably a nice way of saying that she isnt interested. To me it sounds like she got drunk, and is now embarrassed that she made out with you so quickly. It happens. I would move on with my life, and if she is interested, she knows how to contact you!
/r/seduction03/01/14 11:30 PM
2

Ive only been watching their youtube videos for a few days, but I havent seen any manipulation of women. desperate heart broken men that want to get better with women. They'll eat any content up because they don't know any better. Couldnt you say the same for any company that sells this stuff? Or any self-help company/guru/professional. but that slippery slope will have you blindly agreeing with whatever they say. Todd told me to convince her to cheat on her boyfriend? Okay! OK, thats on you. If…
/r/seduction03/01/14 09:14 PM
2

Agree.
/r/seduction03/01/14 07:18 PM
2

I dont see where he said this is a 1st date. Am I missing something?
/r/seduction03/01/14 06:50 PM
1

First of all, give it more than a couple weeks. It might not be a race thing. I started using Tinder and for the first few weeks or so I only got 5 or 6 matches. 1 date. Now Ive had it for 6 months and get a match at least every other day. I dont know why but it just took some time for girls to scan through the profiles and see mine or something. My advice is just to not take it seriously. You are gonna get a match and she wont respond. You will get matches who will talk to you for a day, exchan…
/r/seduction03/01/14 06:30 PM
1

Wow. You feel strongly, I can appreciate that. Clarify, do you mean they are teaching men to manipulate women or do you think they are manipulating men who pay for their stuff? I just think you have to understand RSD for what it is. It is not Models. It is not even The Game. It is literally just how to get a girl that night, that moment. Its how to have a good time that night. Not how to build a foundation of confidence. I think there is a time and place where this can be a good thing. To let lo…
/r/seduction03/01/14 06:09 PM
1

I like David Wygant for daytime approaches too. Do you have any links or books from Sasha? Ive never heard of him.
/r/seduction03/01/14 05:54 PM
1

Oh damn. You're right. Thats what happens when you get like 3 hrs of sleep. Haha. Sorry about that!
/r/seduction02/01/14 10:00 PM
2

Why is that closed minded? You dont factor looks in when you look for women to date?
/r/seduction02/01/14 09:51 PM
1

My friend has them, and has used them. He doesnt have much game, so it ends up looking like he is seeking approval. I doubt they have gotten him anywhere. FWIW, I think those cards are just meant to be handed out to make people feel good. Not to be used as a pickup line. That said, anything can work if you do it confidently.
/r/seduction02/01/14 09:44 PM
1

I am a little late in the RSD game. Just started watching some free youtube stuff a few days ago. I agree with you. Tyler says many times that he only succeeds 10-15% of the time. But the videos show 95% success. And I dont really like Tyler's teaching style, he kind of blabbers on and on. That said, I tried a bit of his tactics (adding my own style, I am not nearly as hyper or energetic as Tyler) and they work at the clubs. Not saying its any good for relationships or long term success, but if …
/r/seduction02/01/14 09:36 PM
1

Oh ok...thats not what you said on your orginal post. Might want to consider editing.
/r/seduction02/01/14 09:27 PM
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One night try doing the opposite. The winner is the person with the most rejections. See how that works out.
/r/seduction02/01/14 07:16 PM
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This. This and to not be afraid to make mistakes. Trying and failing is better than not trying, especially in high school when it really doesnt matter.
/r/seduction30/12/13 06:00 PM
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The second night I realized I have no idea how to approach a group that looks pretty engaged. This is also an issue for me. I have the same feelings about it. how do I deal with girls telling me they're going to come back, and not doing so? Exactly how you did. Fuck it, move on. Doesnt even phase you. By the way, I dont think any of these are failures. Can you improve? Sure. Just keep at it. But the failure would have been buying those underage girls drinks and then getting nowhere.
/r/seduction27/12/13 06:13 PM
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Alright, I feel a little bad now. Haha. I was just giving you a hard time dude, dont be discouraged. Its just that most of this stuff is already covered in the material in the margin on the right of Seddit. And to be honest, most of this stuff should be covered by just knowing how to talk to another human being. I didnt mean to make you feel bad.
/r/seduction27/12/13 05:55 PM
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OK, well you were responding to a thread about asking the 2nd girl out after being turned down by the 1st. So I think there was some miscommunication. To be clear. I am all for going for the girl you are interested in. But if she says no, dont turn to her friend and proceed to hit on her. Thats just a bad look.
/r/seduction27/12/13 05:43 PM
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Kind of like making this post?
/r/seduction26/12/13 11:52 PM
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Shit. All this time I thought it meant she wanted to go to sleep.
/r/seduction26/12/13 11:36 PM
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What does it mean if she says she is thirsty?
/r/seduction26/12/13 11:26 PM
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Her: Im hungry You: Wanna go eat something? Her: Yeah, no shit. Thats why I said Im hungry.
/r/seduction26/12/13 11:16 PM
2

One million upvotes for you sir. Thank you! I am so tired of reading about how some douche got drunk on his B-day and banged a girl. Then acting as if "have fun and dont give a fuck" is some kind of lesson we can all learn from.
/r/seduction26/12/13 07:10 PM
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I think turning to her friend after you have been rejected and asking her out simply because you have nothing to lose is classless, desperate and creepy. Yeah. What message does that send? Ill take anything I can get. Ill settle for 2nd choice.
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:59 PM
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I think you have been friendzoned. But not necessarily permanently. You are young. Dont do anything crazy, like try to kiss her. But you could tell her how you feel. Another option is just letting it go. Especially if you work together. Step 1 to get out of the friendzone is to stop texting her every day with nothing to say. Only text her if you are making plans or have a legit reason to text her.
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:34 PM
1

This is my thought exactly. I dont think it was your response to that question that fucked it up. You messed up somewhere else along the line.
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:20 PM
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"didn't even bother for a number" (implying you could have gotten it easily) I dont think he was implying that at all. I think he was saying that because after she made an excuse to not see him, he knew it wasnt gonna happen, which I agree with. If she was interested, she would have said, "I cant do it this day, but maybe another time." When she didnt say that, he knew it was a no. Which doesnt necessarily mean he did something wrong.
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:05 PM
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Doing things just because you have nothing to lose is a really quick way to go from a confident, attractive guy to a douche bag. Heres something you can lose; your dignity. OP got outta there with class and dignity, and didnt look like a desperate creep. Thats a win.
/r/seduction26/12/13 05:55 PM
1

Great job! Your friend was probably in the corner by himself regretting not going over there with you! Your interaction seemed so much more natural and confident than the ones you have reported on previously. Even though you didnt get a number, you didnt get a total burn out, and the conversation never seemed awkward. So thats great!
/r/seduction26/12/13 05:45 PM
1

Hey, you're cute. Whats your name? Obviously as you can tell, I'm not here to buy clothes, but I'd like to get to know you. Well, think about what that message says to the girl. You are at a mall...but you obviously aren't there to buy clothes? Then why are you at a mall? You don't want her to know you are just wandering around the mall looking for girls to hit on. That's creepy. Women want things to happen organically. This is why I also told OP to go somewhere else if he cant make the mall see…
/r/seduction22/12/13 02:46 PM
1

Completely agree. You arent doing as badly as you think. The woman you talked to just didnt sound like she was that open to having a conversation with a stranger. Which happens, especially during the day. If you are having trouble being genuine and finding things to talk about in a mall, why dont you go somewhere else? What do you like to do? Go do that and maybe you will feel more comfortable talking about it. Or if you are having trouble finding enough women to talk to, go somewhere where wome…
/r/seduction20/12/13 05:09 PM
1

Wow I disagree with everything you said in the first paragraph. But I guess different things work for different people.
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:59 PM
1

OK, being direct is key. I dont want to take that away from you. And it takes balls to tell a girl that you think she is cute and that you are interested. Take pride in that. Take that confidence and shift it into building a conversation before you go direct. You have to build rapport before expressing interest. Go in with the idea that you are trying to find out if she is cool enough for you to be interested. Not the other way around. You shouldnt know that she is a cool person before you even …
/r/seduction19/12/13 08:00 PM
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Im gonna say this stuff ONLY based on what you wrote. Obviously I dont know you. So if I am wrong, sorry. Problems: You are going into this with the wrong attitude. You are trying to pad your stats, not make meaninful connections or interactions. What I mean by this is that to me you are more focused on how many girls you talk to than focusing on the actual interaction. I can promise you that girls are going to see through that. Be genuine. Be actually interested in this other person, not just i…
/r/seduction19/12/13 07:16 PM
2

To me this guy's whole problem is that he is coming off as a little awkward and not genuine. I dont agree with telling him to make up stories (not genuine) and referencing movies that the girl has probably never seen (awkward). Remember a 22-23 year old girl was 5 when that movie came out. Even if they did see it, its not exactly on their radar. If anything, its an unnecessary risk he doesnt need to take.
/r/seduction19/12/13 05:59 PM
3

I dont think you should tell him to lie. Or reference bad 90s Sinbad movies.
/r/seduction19/12/13 05:42 PM
1

Yeah I get that. But maybe wait to say that you think she is cute for when you are getting her number. After you have built some rapport, had a nice convo, have a reason to think she is attractive other than her looks, say "Hey I think you are really cute and fun, lets go out sometime, give me your number."
/r/seduction19/12/13 05:15 PM
1

Where do you live? You are only seeing one or two hot girls...at a mall...during Christmas? Wow. Here is an idea. I think saying the line I dont really need ____, I just wanted to talk to you because you are cute is good. Not great. It kind of stalls the conversation. Because after she says what she says you have to completely change topics and think of something new to talk about. Why not tell her why you are asking for what you are asking for. In your situation, Say, "Thanks! Im just trying to…
/r/seduction18/12/13 07:21 PM
2

Wow Im surprised this comment got downvoted so much. I kind of agree. I happen to think MasterE is going into this date with a terrible approach. You want her to come home with you? Why? You havent been on a single date yet. What do you know about her that makes you want to sleep with her other than that she is hot? If thats all you need...ok. If you just want to fuck...ok. Fine. In that case why are you taking her out at all? Why dont you go on this date with the intention of getting to know he…
/r/seduction18/12/13 05:56 PM
2

Do that thing where you kneel down and walk on your knees...but put your shoes on your knees. They will never know!
/r/seduction16/12/13 10:30 PM
1

The fact that advice conflicts should tell you something. One way can work for one person and be the worst advice in the world for another person. If advice conflicts, look at the bigger picture. What is the overall message? Its probably pretty similar. It sounds like you are focusing too much on perfecting the process.
/r/seduction16/12/13 10:21 PM
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OK, then he didnt really do anything wrong. Suck it up...happens to all of us. Its happened to me. Maybe ask him for some advice or try to understand why she likes him and not you.
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:57 PM
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That blows. I feel for you. Kind of a dick move by your friend if he knew you like her. I guess just try to move on and try to find better friends that wont fuck girls you are interested in. Oh and learn from it and dont get friendzoned.
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:48 PM
1

In my opinion, asking where something is is a GREAT opener. So much more organic than some pre-rehearsed "PUA" opener. But like everyone here is saying, dont ask where the bathrooms are. You still could have asked where a coffee place is. When she points out the starbucks, say, "Oh come on! You can do better than starbucks...wheres your favorite place to go for coffee around here." And Im sure you can figure out what to say when she tells you. Your second line to her shouldnt be that she looks r…
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:36 PM
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Completely agree. Friendship should be natural, not forced. If your friendship becomes a chore and you arent into it, then its not worth it, whether the person is a hot girl or not. I also agree that having hot girl friends is great in that they usually hang out with other hot girls, and might be able to set you up. But if you dont need that or its still not worth it...then dont worry about it.
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:26 PM
1

Comment on something about where you guys are. Ask for directions. Ask where a good place to eat is. Be genuinely interested and engaged in where you are and who you are talking to and you wont need something pre-rehearsed. BEST day game material to read or watch (in my opinion) is David Wygant's stuff. I generally dont approach women with kids, because I have no interest in dating women with kids. And why are you seeing so many women with children? Where are you going? Stop hanging out at playg…
/r/seduction16/12/13 08:38 PM
6

Heres something you might try but I think it goes against what most people say here. I think your problem is starting when you first get the number. From what I can tell, you arent making it clear that you want a date...not just looking for friends. This has to start early. Here is where people are going to disagree: Throw in a quick compliment. I know, I know...bad! But you have to make it clear that you are attracted to her and want to be more than just friends. Try this when you get the numbe…
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:38 PM
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Why are you asking us if you should call her? Do what YOU want! OK forgive my cheesy How I Met Your Mother quote...but do you want to keep playing the game or win the game? Why in the world would you not call a girl you like? The entire point of this is to attract quality women. A quality woman should help you improve yourself when you are with her. If this girl fits into that category, then dont worry about what we say or getting more "experience". You won!
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:23 PM
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Ohhh, I see. Ask her who she thinks cheats more, men or women? Why are you trying to make it harder on yourself than it has to be? You were making out with her at a party. Pretty sure she is interested. The hard part is done. Just be direct.
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:12 PM
9

Yeah I would say thats success. First of all...stop with the "how are you doing" texts. Girls hate this. When you text her, have a fucking reason. But it sounds like you are WAY overthinking this. How about: Hey I enjoyed meeting you at the party. Lets get drinks this weekend. Im free Saturday night.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:55 PM
1

If I am going out to a trendy bar or club, I will watch a couple of episodes of Keys to the VIP on YouTube. Then I say to myself, if these D-bags can have success, then I can too! Does not help for job interviews.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:49 PM
9

If nobody in the club has seen Fresh Prince...leave that club immediately.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:45 PM
1

Damn, you stole my answer.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:41 PM
10

More details please...where and how did you get the number?
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:40 PM
1

Forget you! Tell me how you get 100K in savings in your 20s. But in reality, I agree with WittilyFun. Let your money be an nice bonus, not a feature. But if you really want to, you can easily get girls who want you just for your money. Just get a table and a couple bottles at a club and start inviting random girls to your table. They will be happy to drink your drinks.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:37 PM
2

Fuck if I know dude. Only thing I know about women is that I dont know anything about them. But you have to ask yourself, if she is trying to keep her options open, is she that into the date? If you were really into a girl, would you not want to call it a date to keep your options open? I wouldnt.
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:13 PM
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How exactly did you "convince the girl to sleep with you"? How exactly does this prove you "know how to talk to these women"? You just said yes. How is that game? Basically your advice to guys is that if a really hot girl walks up to you/texts you that she wants to fuck, say yes. Wow. Thanks.
/r/seduction12/12/13 11:23 PM
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Trying to think of a way you can salvage this...but I agree with bl1y. You have to go into it like its not a date (since thats what you told her). Treat her like a friend, show no interest, and hopefully that will catch her off guard and spark some interest from her. If not...cute girls usually have cute friends they can set you up with!
/r/seduction12/12/13 11:14 PM
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