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a moderately attractive woman unless if you think most men are inferior to be with. How about then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:22 PM
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Asking to speak to the manager
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:20 PM
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My GF told me that it would’ve been better if I had other girls that were interested in me when we first got together. Am I wrong for being upset about this? No
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:17 PM
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Celebrity men might be different. They also might not be. Only is probably an exaggeration. However, and not to "unsult", but arguably women are on average more skilled at using socialization instrumentally to attack their rivals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:16 PM
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Where's cuck culture 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:57 PM
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This statement is false
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:11 AM
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It's to set the stage for the rebellion or whatever lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:08 AM
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princessss19
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:07 AM
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What's the difference...either way, they either will get it, or they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:01 AM
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So what can you get
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:47 AM
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Is it the best you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:13 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:03 AM
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Respiratory2MD RSV username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:02 PM
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There was a TV thing this reminds me of
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:40 PM
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. i know 2 too many 5’5 hobosexual loser baby daddies for this sub to make sense to me. Well, what do their partners look like
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:49 PM
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The dude took "dating is a numbers game" to a different level. Let me guess: Randomly dials phone numbers using a random number generator
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:47 AM
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win the trip. Do you have to go together? Literal prisoner's dilemma
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:31 AM
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speak Spanish Average height in Mexico is 5'6.5"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:27 AM
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Aren't they admitting they can't? What more is needed like begging forgiveness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:04 PM
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Aren't they doing what you're suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:03 PM
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Them saying what they're going to say is legal, and so is criticizing them, and so is ignoring the criticism, and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:05 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:03 PM
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The buying of sexual services is illegal in most parts of the US. A lot of men that are flooding dating apps right now wouldn't be doing so if this other option was safe and legal. Is the situation better in countries where prostitution is legal? Which countries do you have in mind? Affirmative action restricts men's ability to moneymax. Colleges at least are now exercising preferences in favor of men Men in general pay more taxes in their lifetime than women do. Taxes are gender neutral. If men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:59 PM
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What restrictions on men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:26 PM
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And tell us why you have created a whole dungeon in your parents house versus buying homes and building something to attract us towards. You think we want to consider you as a partner when the best you can offer us is a spot next to you on a couch your mama paid for? All of this is: men begging to have multiple casual sex partners with the minimum amount of effort required and the women who say Nah are incredibly shallow for rejecting us. Casual is a different framework than long term, and so sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:13 PM
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For those working in correctional facilities in the US, hybristophilia is said to affect almost 4 per cent of prison workers, which includes not only prison guards, but psychologists, social workers, nurses, teachers, and other professionals. There's probably some self-selection going on there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:49 PM
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Is that what it sounds like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:12 PM
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Elon?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:11 PM
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Like society returning to a culture of monogamy and chastity. I don't know that that is a solution, but the author did propose that as a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:44 PM
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You'd have to ask him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:43 PM
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Take it up with Ross Douthat lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:43 PM
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How ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:57 PM
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Marriage rate in the US was 67% of people over 14 in 1960, thus unless you believe that nearly 20% of those pairings never even once had sex, "never" seems demonstrably false
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:54 PM
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The NYT column where they actually said the thing There is an alternative, conservative response, of course — namely, that our widespread isolation and unhappiness and sterility might be dealt with by reviving or adapting older ideas about the virtues of monogamy and chastity and permanence and the special respect owed to the celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:51 PM
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Well, at least some of them might also encounter the issue you mention: that the men they're going for prefer women of a different group
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:48 AM
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paint job. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:45 AM
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But on the main apps I'd think it's far more likely they'd be dating out as opposed to a niche app Lack of sufficient network effect (e.g., not enough users) can certainly be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:35 AM
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But these are people specifically on there seeking people from their group. Are you saying like it'll be a bad experience even if they find someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:57 AM
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But, you know, those apps are geared toward people mutually looking for people from their group
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:47 AM
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ethnic minority. Have you tried using dating apps geared toward your minority
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:50 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:30 PM
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I believe part of the convention is in hope of avoiding that outcome as much as possible (i.e., encouraging more involvement)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:14 PM
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The only women who count as women are beautiful women. And surely, the average beautiful woman is not online 2022. So it is okay to completely discount swaths if women because obviously ugly women and beautiful women do not have common interests or concerns 🤡 How could they when only one group is validated by the twitch of the dick - the reason we live! 🤪 So zany! Isn't this your unironic perspective on what society is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:11 PM
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That's your choice. Or, you could choose to find one who is attractive but that isn't needed. Also your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:00 PM
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Viewing it as a penalty means you're just going to fuck yourself over. Filter out the ones who aren't compatible. they're not compatible. Why do you want to be with them day in and day out if they don't even share your first principles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:30 AM
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I'm a single man and I always pay the bill on the first date, but I HATE the social norm of men having to pay. So don't. There's women splitting, some even on this thread. Maybe you're missing out on more compatible women and using up time with less compatible women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:18 PM
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Thing is, men aren’t going to stop paying There's plenty of women even in this thread who are splitting the bill, which means there are corresponding guys they split the bill with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:14 PM
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You do realize women put a lot more into a date generally than men right? Do you know how much makeup is? Do you know how much women’s clothing cost versus men? Do you know how much women’s hygiene products cost versus men? All of it cost a lot of money. Do you know how much time women put into their appearance for a first date versus men? Usually a minimum of three hours. Which I also think it’s ridiculous that we’re expected to do that. But that’s neither here nor there. Also it is a lot less …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:12 PM
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Who hurt you. I was gonna go through and do the thing where you swap the genders as to your vicious attack and see how it feels, but I'm sure it's obvious enough how that would sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:08 PM
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Haha I mean the username just matched perfectly with the exchange is all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:53 PM
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It's a more recent stat perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:53 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:56 PM
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Those aren't the only options lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:51 PM
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"yeah let's split it" I mean there's always going to be tradeoffs 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:50 PM
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Sorting in action
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:49 PM
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It if men don’t pay, they get less dates and therefore less chances of getting laid. If you're a guy and you don't want to pay, don't pay. Less dates is good because you're weeding out women who are not compatible with you. If it's just for dry spells, you can always see an escort in the meantime
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:47 PM
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Not all men, and certainly it's voluntary. A man who doesn't want to pay for the other person, it's as simple as vetting 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:31 PM
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There is usually a disparity in income even at the same age. Single childless women in big cities do outearn their male counterparts though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:29 PM
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People are free to do as they wish. If you're a guy and you don't want to pay, don't pay. If you're a girl and you want to be paid for, select for that. And so on. I think men should accept this reality, stop complaining and “man up”. Toxic. I mean complaining, that's pointless I reckon, but certainly no one is being forced to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:04 PM
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Blue man group
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:46 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ-Bk0F5be8
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:43 AM
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Are you saying you approve of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:32 PM
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If fucking the man of your dreams wasnt so high risk, theyd get fucked quick too. How can he be the man of your dreams if he doesn't accept you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:31 PM
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Is she the SO
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:42 AM
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Peter: You know what really grinds my gears? This Lindsay Lohan. Eh? Lindsay Lohan with all those little outfits jumping around there on stage, half naked with your little outfits. You know? You're up there jumpin' around and I'm just sittin' here with my beer. So, you know, what am I supposed to do? What do you--what do you want? You know, are we gonna go out? Is that what you're tryin' to--why you're leapin' around there throwin' those things all up in--um, over there in my face? What do you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:47 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:40 AM
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He could've done just that, yet there he was...married
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:59 AM
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"How many of the women rallying against overturning Roe are over-educated, under-loved millennials who sadly return from protests to a lonely microwave dinner with their cats, and no bumble matches?" tweeted Gaetz, a Florida lawmaker and unabashed provocateur. They should fly in underage escorts like Matt Gaetz
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:52 AM
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He should just leave already damn Certainly she should
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:50 AM
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Peter: You know what really grinds my gears? This Lindsay Lohan. Eh? Lindsay Lohan with all those little outfits jumping around there on stage, half naked with your little outfits. You know? You're up there jumpin' around and I'm just sittin' here with my beer. So, you know, what am I supposed to do? What do you--what do you want? You know, are we gonna go out? Is that what you're tryin' to--why you're leapin' around there throwin' those things all up in--um, over there in my face? What do you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:29 AM
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There was also the leaked opinion a couple of months ago
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:50 PM
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NPR: The end of Roe v. Wade has huge economic implications for male partners, too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:49 PM
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Associated Press: More than 1 million voters switch to GOP in warning for Dems A political shift is beginning to take hold across the U.S. as tens of thousands of suburban swing voters who helped fuel the Democratic Party’s gains in recent years are becoming Republicans. More than 1 million voters across 43 states have switched to the Republican Party over the last year, according to voter registration data analyzed by The Associated Press.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:34 PM
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What about the pregnancy part
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:28 PM
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even Men are getting pregnant now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:23 PM
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We will start to see the after effects soon. It'll take a few years, but you'll see. And when it hits, it's really going to fucking hit Like what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:23 PM
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while you and all your friends are motivated exclusively by the highest forms of moral virtues https://www.britannica.com/art/dramatic-irony
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:07 PM
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wiglickers Ded
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:02 PM
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If literally every non-prostitute woman ends up this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:01 PM
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Well like saying Nobody in America actually gives a single fuck about dead kids if it would inconvenience them. is just not true, whatever else may be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:32 AM
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Or people differ in what they consider to be worthwhile tradeoffs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:23 AM
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Ya know, if this happened under Trump they's be screaming "It's Trump, he hates women! We told you!" Fuck, I'm Canadian and I know more about the US government than far too many Americans. Did you know that Trump appointed the justices who sealed the votes in favor of the decision lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:21 AM
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A thousand dollar an hour hooker is worth a million 🤷‍♂️💅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:32 AM
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Well if today leads to women like OP and some of the ones in this thread 🤮telling on themselves, at least that's one benefit, to easily spot and weed them out completely. If literally every non-prostitute woman ends up this way, I'll take my prostitution straight up thank you very much It's heartening though that some of the women in this thread are calling this what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:19 AM
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Like didn't you say you don't want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:14 AM
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Texas AG Paxton declares agency holiday 'in remembrance of the unborn' after abortion ruling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:46 AM
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Texas AG Paxton declares agency holiday 'in remembrance of the unborn' after abortion ruling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:45 AM
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Mike Pence Calls for National Abortion Ban
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:21 AM
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Mike Pence Calls for National Abortion Ban
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:21 AM
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Separating that EVEN FURTHER, the vast majority of people are either unwilling to use performance enhancing drugs, Yeah why isn't the average man a desperate loon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:23 AM
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Manchin said he's "deeply disappointed" in the justices. "I trusted Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh when they testified under oath that they also believed Roe v. Wade was settled legal precedent and I am alarmed they chose to reject the stability the ruling has provided for two generations of Americans," he said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:23 PM
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This assumes that he has the same perspective toward the mother as he does toward the resulting child
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:27 PM
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Will say though that this assumes he knows about the pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:56 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:44 AM
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I got some surgery which was 25k, What'd you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:26 PM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:57 PM
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Hey you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:11 AM
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He's a typical golden retriever boyfriend. What is this a crossover episode
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:17 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:05 PM
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Why So Many Amazing Women Give Their Hearts To Unkind Men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:24 AM
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On one hand, you are going to see tons of responses to this question that are like fuck no, but in reality, it happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:14 AM
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You rang
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:55 PM
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I think the argument is about relative to men in the same countries
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:45 PM
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Class is not really a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:49 PM
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How was I "arguing" for anything? I was stating an observable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:45 PM
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Not with increasing your income, it comes with women having increased income. But given that people tend to date and mate within their class, it's intertwined... Evil Not sure what this particular issue has to do with evil though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:35 PM
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I mentioned this women are disproportionately more likely to go to college, get help in accomplishing that, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:28 PM
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How about as between men and women in said situation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:28 PM
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whether or not women have it harder or easier than men here So who does
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:27 PM
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What makes it easier
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:27 PM
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Lol well again, that's quite ironic considering, you know, that appears to be a tradeoff that appears with increasing income. It's a luxury except for the poor, in other words
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:26 PM
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Being a first-world man coming from a family with money seems like an easier mode than being a first-world woman. ...is this comparing to a woman who also comes from a family with money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:24 PM
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Would it be easier mode for one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:22 PM
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Are you referring to having children and families as a luxury item? It's kind of interesting because poor people in both poor and rich countries are far more likely to have children. Could be that the tradeoffs made to become a part of the middle class are antithetical to having children all else equal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:22 PM
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How about compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:19 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:19 PM
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How about compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:19 PM
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The lack of constructive advice that women have for sexually and socially awkward men is at least 50% to blame for the existence of these niche pill communities. Why do they have an obligation to provide constructive advice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:23 PM
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It just is. It'll "work" as long as it works, and then it won't. Such is existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:22 AM
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Exploitation tastes better
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:33 AM
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Don't look down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:04 AM
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I'm stating that's an inevitable consequence of first world comfort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:47 AM
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Well it's not a coincidence that as a society becomes more comfortable, it transitions. What's the big deal anyway? Jesus Russian roulette that's dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:15 AM
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The internet is a different cross-section
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:11 AM
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First Whoever posted this in the thread last week she from uptown I'm from down South, not a loudmouth, we can fuck around Never heard of JID before that but obsessed that shit is so good plus J Cole All hail King Cole, first of his name, long may he reign The boy got the throne, but you know it ain't a game
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:01 AM
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Record-High 50% of Americans Rate U.S. Moral Values as 'Poor' 72% republicans, 44% of independents, 36% of democrats
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:10 PM
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yet misogynistic assholes are constantly getting laid So be one? 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:12 PM
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"The day you sign a client is the day you start losing them"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:49 PM
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Wouldn't it be uncomfortable in its own right to be constantly surveilled. I'm not saying I have a better solution, to be clear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:47 AM
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As in, is that you would like to see happen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:03 AM
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Unironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:42 AM
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What's the point of this? Or like in other words...fuck you gonna do about it? Whining more doesn't seem like it will change anything. You say that in case you weren’t aware men are significantly hornier than women and must satiate this urge on a regular basis. Most attractive women are taken so most men are forced to fuck down. So like, it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:34 PM
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Self-conscious generation: 4 in 5 millennial men insecure about their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:24 PM
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I have no idea how to be a “real” man, honestly I’m lost Why's it matter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:38 AM
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Lululemen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:19 PM
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If it didn't work it probably wouldn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:38 AM
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To the victors go the spoils
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:35 AM
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Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings, According to Reports Looks like the problem with the mainstream isn't censorship, but rather the specifics of what gets censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:47 PM
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They don't have to be valued identically to nevertheless be meaningfully valued
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:17 PM
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Gotta give people false hope to keep the capitalist machine wheels turning etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:14 PM
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This seems to further support my point given that education is positively correlated with income
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:09 PM
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The trends are more pronounced among the more educated classes and less pronounced among the lower classes. More educated people are more likely to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:52 PM
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Seems all to be pretty transparent. Might as well cast off the last few shards of attempted diplomacy/pretense at this point, sure I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:28 PM
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Priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:14 PM
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“Couples who are sterile adopt kids all the time,” Yu told the news outlet. “Please try to empathize with me. The three children called him ‘dad’ for many years, but now he says the daughters are not his own. What is the difference between him and an animal?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:40 AM
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Men and women. Is this a thing that happens for women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:39 PM
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Trump Throws Ivanka Under the Bus: She Was ‘Checked Out’ and ‘Not Involved’ in Studying Election Results
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:19 PM
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"The same" seems unlikely given the consensus of the overall worse things men are apparently capable of
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:00 PM
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True or false: "The bar is on the floor" means "women will put up with the most harrowing abuse if he's hot enough." Not "my standards are low." (Copy)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:15 PM
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That's what some women who are not all women Ironically or unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:03 PM
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But what are the gremlins doing for the attractive woman is the question I guess, and was the woman's tolerance different with respect to more attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:01 PM
1

My redpill logic? Assortative mating is well studied and acknowledged. People generally stay within their class
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:52 PM
5

True or false: "The bar is on the floor" means "women will put up with the most harrowing abuse if he's hot enough." Not "my standards are low."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:51 PM
1

What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:30 PM
3

That's not really gonna work. The guy will probably be culturally mismatched, seen as effeminate, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:24 PM
6

Everyone wants what they can't have and has what they can't want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:22 AM
1

Aw
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:18 AM
0

So what did you decide to do instead
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:29 PM
2

Does this count as a wingman story? Everything is remote now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:42 PM
1

Trading Places Assumed there would be Coming to America too it's like seeing a list with Tommy Boy but no Black Sheep
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:02 PM
1

No rants
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:11 PM
2

Tsrif
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:05 PM
3

Why bother
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:23 AM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:13 AM
1

Just kinda picked states at random lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:38 AM
1

New York is way better than Michigan
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:26 AM
0

I think there will be an 80-20 split on the replies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:23 AM
2

I see what you did there :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:20 PM
1

It does not matter where a conscientious individual lives, they are unlikely to enjoy Rage Against the Machine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:48 PM
2

This post raises an interesting question: if you can only do one, should you go with optimizing looks or optimizing income?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:28 PM
2

Rad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:57 PM
2

I also am dieting and exercising, planning to be within my goal weight within six months Have you always been overweight or is it new
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:53 PM
2

You'll be waiting forever, but I will return to this comment with a link everytime a woman poster on PPD does it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:23 PM
2

This study is only about romantic rejection though. Seems to me that women do make generalizations on other bases though. Granted one might argue that those bases are more "justifiable" or "necessary" but it's hard to dispute that they exist I don't think this study stands for the proposition that it encompassed every possible generalization made by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:40 PM
6

Using a personal experience to make negative, all-encompassing generalizations is not justified or smart. It’s immature and stupid. whereas women are capable of understanding themselves in the context of a world of experiences that vary and cannot be generalized. You sure you don't want to reconsider this generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:34 PM
3

Which culture engaged in what you believe to be correct socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:20 PM
2

I think thats the main issue, i think if people were held equally accountable, casual sex wouldnt be an issue. Isn't it equally accountable now in that it's indifferent, free to do as you want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:19 PM
3

Trump was previously a Democrat. Maybe the well started drying up with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:18 PM
1

I don't think it's biological but the way men are brought up. To believe they are entitled. Is that upbringing not biological. Saying it is cultural, well, how'd that culture arise.. coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:16 PM
2

People are social and thus suggestible animals, far as I can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:11 PM
3

Conservative to liberal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:10 PM
5

the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race ugly face
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:09 PM
2

You sound surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:12 AM
2

Apparently many people have a weak core lol. Arguably there's going to be some overlap between weak core and lack of romantic success in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:35 AM
3

50 first dates, wedding crashers, 500 days of summer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:07 PM
5

You're basically asking if men want to be famous (aside from I guess the sex trafficking)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:41 PM
13

Any and all lawful standards, and the alternative is awful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:55 PM
11

Most people have a primary, if self-perceived, best asset
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:54 PM
45

As a practical matter, what's the difference? I mean obviously participating on PPD means enjoying this kind of topic as a matter of intellectual discussion, but in reality, the options are always the same for everyone, and it's a matter of calibrating to your circumstances: Offer more Offer less Demand more Demand less Opt out altogether Sounds like you're in the 2, 3, and/or 5 bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:44 PM
5

The counterargument, such as it is, would be that a broad majority of husbands still outearn their wives. Certainly there are variables that people will argue as to why that is so, but the fact remains. Furthermore, it's men's (overall lack of) earning ability that has come to the forefront in many thinkpieces etc as the primary blame for why marriage rates are decreasing--lack of marriageable men. Of course, there may be good reason for this that does not apply equally, such as it being the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:41 PM
2

Being annoyed by preferences is dumb they'll either meet people who satisfy their preferences or they won't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:38 PM
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The argument, such as it is, would be that you could take this principle and apply it to any "insecurity of use" For example, Women who believe that men are 'after their pussy' actually know deep down that they have nothing to bring to the table besides their pussy However, a more plausible explanation would be that people want to be valued by what they don't offer. Good looking people want to be valued for their intellect. Smart people want to be valued for their looks. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:37 PM
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BDSM weirdo #2: ok but first give me 40 minutes to tie you up and hang you from the ceiling like a coat hanger cuck stuck culture
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:34 AM
3

The goalposts have been moved to another galaxy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:02 PM
8

In other words, some generation ends up being right. It's funny how much work normies have to put in to keep their fragile normalcy bias mechanisms from keeling over and collapsing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:02 PM
1

That's just your truth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:45 PM
5

Rome, like the empire, smartass Fall of the Western Roman Empire
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:42 PM
6

To get them to stop whining/what other solution is there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:40 PM
17

Eventually it's right (like Rome for example)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:58 PM
1

Well, you're the one creating conspiracy theories against women The voting and cultural patterns that underlie this trend are very obvious and very much public. You've now spent like 2 days shooting the messenger. Your retort to it amounts to "nuh-uh it won't happen". Literally the dozens of messages you've written on this and not one of them has a single thing to offer beyond "nuh-uh" and insults. And then you have the hubris to brand yourself an intellectual 🤣 That you refer to this as a consp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:05 AM
1

So you agree that all this is one big reaction because you are friendless and unlovable and now you've got antisocial rage. Do we have Payton Gendron 2.0 here?! 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:53 AM
1

You've yet to disagree that not a single person IRL gives a flying fuck about your existence. No wonder you feel the need to insult internet strangers over disagreement. When you look up Dunning-Kruger in the dictionary, there's gonna be a picture of your worthless face. It's hilarious that as its embodiment, you keep repeating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:38 AM
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Your pseudo intellectual approach You wouldn't understand intellect if it smacked you across your worthless mouth. Ah I see so not denying an insult = agreeing it is true, and yet you haven't yet once disagreed that you're a miserable, unlovable loner who no one cares whether you live or die. 🤔 Such a waste of life and resources that could be used on people that are worth a single damn. Don't you feel ashamed eating food that could go to people who actually have a place amongst other people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:15 AM
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Your insults could be improve Says the person using the same one over and over and over. Your lack of self awareness is probably another important factor in the whole no one caring that you're alive thing. I mean forget unlovable; you're not even mildly likable or tolerable. But of course, you know this. It's just weird that you aren't doing anything about it. Which also makes you useless. Enjoy being less than nothing I guess 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:03 AM
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No one even cares whether you're alive, maybe try working on that rather than endlessly repeating the same insult to Internet strangers (then again, of course you'll do that, no one even cares whether you're alive 😂)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:32 AM
2

Damn that's scary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:40 PM
3

That's the part I never understand with these people....they've got the money to not drive etc. It's like do they just do it for the thrill, to avoid the inconvenience...just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:09 PM
4

They can even serve in Congress
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:06 PM
1

Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:03 PM
3

Pelosi's husband arrested for DUI
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:55 PM
2

Ohh I can repeat my self too here look it's funny that that's the only one you can think of, projection given that you know you're worth literally nothing more than your fetid gash (whichever side it may be depending on what it is you are)--if that!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:04 PM
2

Lol same thing over and over, you're such a bore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:29 PM
1

And as a non-liar but totally not ugly guy, who is actually just friendly, it makes me wonder if actually being "evil" is better for dating, and i am totally never doing that Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:51 PM
2

RemindMe! May 29, 2032
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:12 PM
2

Lol this is like a no u back and forth. Time will tell, and the egg on your face will just be amazing to laugh at when it dawns on you that you had it wrong As far as the unnecessary insults, ohh I can do that too: it's funny that that's the only one you can think of, projection given that you know you're worth literally nothing more than your fetid gash (whichever side it may be depending on what it is you are)--if that!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:19 PM
7

Bouncing off of this, I think a summary might be "monogamy isn't forever, so why bother at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:15 PM
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Do women not gossip about how to lock down guys and complain about hating guys when on a bad streak of encounters, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:07 PM
2

The last desperate, choked gasps of the crumbling aristocracy. No grace, no noblesse oblige, just yelped demands of petty pseudo-tyrants. The living in denial at each stage of the process is the most alarming part. Dunning Kruger indeed, the irony. The next one is going to be so much worse than Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:06 PM
2

Casual sex, well, it's casual...fun is a foundational premise no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:54 PM
2

What's another answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:07 AM
1

Everyone wants what they can't have
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:12 AM
1

Yep. Point remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:55 AM
1

For example: Silicon valley. There's guys who literally have more than 1 mil. They can't get dick wet (not all, some..maybe even few).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:19 AM
1

I assume you want to get your dick wet. There's a lot of people with bucks who aren't. Any guess why they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:12 AM
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People make any and all claims for their own benefit. All must be verified and reassessed. I've been around PPD long enough to know that you know that. I don't disagree with your assessment, but rather I asset that it is a daily reassessment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:12 AM
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I highly recommend having a set wakeup time. I do that too. Overachiever crew
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:04 AM
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It means each state can decide It means the federal government can pass a ban. My ilk? This post is predictive and not advocacy. Your ilk will regret itsunearned, unnecessary, ineffective hubris till its dying days. Thanks for fucking nothing worthless arrogant beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:02 AM
1

Money, to a point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:01 AM
1

But the sark
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:00 AM
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you just would rather have money than “ frame “ , I’d rather have that too lol Why
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:45 AM
2

CMV just pay a hooker already she'll fuck you faster
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:42 AM
1

Lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:41 AM
1

Yeah, but before people could just like be on the land or wherever. Now we have all these taxes and registrations and shit. we are making it impossible for commoners to just do their thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:40 AM
1

Assassinations etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:39 AM
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People kept saying roe would never be overturned. I don't know what to tell you. I understand your frustration, but I don't share your ignorance. Good luck to us all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:39 AM
0

Indeed, unless you want stability
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:38 AM
1

😨
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:37 AM
1

I want your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:36 AM
1

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:33 AM
1

That's not what that is right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:32 AM
1

Are you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:31 AM
4

Lol fair, but things are changing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:31 AM
2

Just have a pillowfight heart to heart where you discuss the underlying issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:31 AM
1

Too much pressure (giggity)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:30 AM
1

I am ded
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:30 AM
1

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:27 AM
1

Hashtag yolo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:26 AM
1

1 out of 1
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:25 AM
2

Porn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:25 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:25 AM
1

Perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:24 AM
1

Too much risk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:23 AM
1

Guy or girl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:23 AM
1

The unhealthy are at the top and the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:22 AM
1

Mantachi when
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:22 AM
1

genetic baggage. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:21 AM
2

All the girls I know in their twenties in university were always dating guys who were also in uni, working on their degree or doing something to advance themselves. They weren't dating stable guys because nobody is stable at 20. And even then, indicators of stability were always attractive. Even then, that's a spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:14 AM
2

But society has made men think that they need to be in a relationship before they can be successful and that’s so not true When have men ever been served by adhering completely and unflinchingly to society's dictates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:11 AM
1

No it's a genuine guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:10 AM
1

They would have to prioritize accordingly, which many are not willing to. Why am I telling you this? You know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:10 AM
3

Always a new crowd to be had. We're not limited to our tribe anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:09 AM
1

gimpgirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:02 AM
0

Certainly, Mr. 'cuckedalt', I was shocked it was available you have the opinion we all sheep must believe in Where am I wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:01 AM
1

Less than that. Maybe 30
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:00 AM
2

I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:00 AM
2

You can get what you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:54 AM
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Lol sounds like afbb
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:45 PM
6

That's a choice to make
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:44 PM
1

How so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:44 PM
2

Yeah, I mean different people have different goals. Sometimes those goals even change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:44 PM
-2

Different people have different goals. Sometimes those goals even change over time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:43 PM
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Isn't it kind of a reality that you can get what you can get? "Deserve" is a loaded word that doesn't really facilitate any actual understanding of what the reality is. What you get is what you get. The options are to improve what you offer, aim lower, or be ok alone. That's true of everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:37 PM
2

Too many men belive the bullshit that they have to drive everything in the relationship and that they have to sacrifice more because she gives him kids. If they're not happy with it, they shouldn't do it. If they have other options, they won't go for something that makes them unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:25 PM
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If a guy feels used, he should leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:18 PM
3

Effort, patience, and resilience are not exactly ubiquitous today
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:46 PM
2

Well if she's fucking you, she's not stringing you along while fucking another guy, right? At the least, she is also fucking you, so no issue. Therefore, the way to avoid the situation you want to avoid is that if a given girl doesn't fuck you, find a different one who does. Cultivate options. Make the tradeoffs necessary to be able to cultivate options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:38 PM
10

People want to feel like they have control over something (anything!) in the face of complete lack of control over the big issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:35 PM
3

You have to make tradeoffs, and some people are unwilling to make the tradeoffs they would need to make in order to not be stability guy. Often it is because stability is in their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:28 PM
2

Could be that he has other options and doesn't commit, or could be that the circumstances that make him a suitable casual sex partner don't enable or even allow for a long term situation (e.g., on vacation)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:27 PM
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You work out everyday and study the rest of the day. You have to shift your priorities to supplement with the things you'll need in order to get what you want. It's true, time is limited, so what you do with the time you have matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:24 PM
1

Corollary: if you really want something, you should go for it wholeheartedly Men complaining about not getting the casual sex Chad gets is like me complaining that there's no millionaire suitor trying to buy me diamond necklaces. Women who really want millionaire suitors, they prioritize their lives around that goal. If they didn't grow up in a commensurate socioeconomic class, they have to work even harder at it ..strategically researching places likely to lead to "serendipitous" meetings with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:23 PM
3

Their motives are wrapped up into the treatment they recieve. Who they are is going to be intertwined in their motives...people aren't a vaccuum. Take that other thread where the guy is waiting for 9 months for sex or whatever. Do you think casual sex guy is going to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:18 PM
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Well for one thing, different people may have different perspectives on the matter, but for another, the perspective you cited isn't necessarily inconsistent with my OP, since if you're casual sex guy, your motives are likely going to be congruent and aligned, and that's the only way to have success in any long run manner (one off luck aside). Casual sex guy isn't going to spend time worrying about how long to wait for a specific girl. He has other options and will cultivate further options and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:15 PM
2

If your a guy when you read this stuff the only option is to be the guy who gets the no strings attached sex, be the guy who gets to have sex with the girl after she comes back from dates with other guys, be the guy who gets to have sex with the girl that texts other guys she wants to “seriously date”. So do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:09 PM
1

I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:57 PM
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i don’t think those women should be punished for it. Breaking up, if that's what you're referring to, isn't "punishment"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:39 PM
1

The Kanye cancel culture anthem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:23 PM
1

No one can just leave for any reason if they are being reproductively coerced or lied to. Well, they "can". I mean, ain't no laws against it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:21 PM
1

Where did I say I'm in favor of patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:20 PM
2

Well it's all too common that guys say this, but never follow through on the courage of their convictions by doing it. It's almost like they don't actually believe what they're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:20 PM
1

It is arguably not the identical one it once was, however
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:19 PM
0

Which part
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:18 PM
1

I know? I even put the YouTube link to the song
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:18 PM
1

There is a conservative majority on the supreme court. Trump won an election, a few justices died, Trump replaced them. There was enough change to enable this string of events to happen. Trump clearly stated on the campaign trail that he thinks women should be jailed for abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:18 PM
0

American proles in particular have plenty of things to rise up about: cost of living, housing, violence, lack of healthcare and consistently don't so nope not happening. Well that's the thing, what appears to be happening is they're rising up about the polarized issues rather than the material issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:17 PM
1

I don't know, welfare may have had this as the result but don't you think at least some (if not all) of the politicians who support it are just like kids' gotta eat rather than intentionally using it as a mechanism to enshrine their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:16 PM
1

I'm not following
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:14 PM
1

The post is a prediction, not advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:14 PM
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It's not the bare minimum, seeing as how frequently women bemoan the poor behaviour exhibited by their current or ex boyfriends So do the same thing or stop whining Just tell them that by itself is not attractive. Still not accurate given above. So which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:30 AM
1

🥁
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:29 AM
0

Cuck Norris
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:19 AM
5

No. This post is not advocacy. It is prediction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:16 AM
0

The evidence is out in the open
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:08 AM
1

That's what I was saying Downvoting is for
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:07 AM
0

The federal government currently stands in the way as a sheath to defend from various policies, like abortion bans, that states wish to enact. At least from the perspective of the modernists, the absence of total hegemony of the modern program amounts to a total failure (and certainly it is in harmony with the perspective, since if you believe that a given policy defends against human rights violation, the inability to impose that policy uniformly everywhere will feel like a rebuke to basic huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:03 AM
0

Cutting off abortion access. It's a different viewpoint. And it's ascendant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:51 AM
2

Minorities are not equally spread across all constituencies, which is relevant and salient to the outcome given how the American framework is set up (e.g., the electoral college, the Senate)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:50 AM
1

Your fellow voters
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:48 AM
3

1/3 the of the justices were appointed by Trump: despite his stating on the campaign trail that women who get abortions should be jailed, 52% of white women voted for him that year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:41 AM
1

Yeah, which is what makes it all the more terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:40 AM
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Yeah. I mean laugh all the way to the conclusion I guess. Such unearned arrogance is a big part of why things are headed this way as it is, why stop now. RemindMe! May 28, 2032
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:35 AM
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Because he's upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:34 AM
1

They don't care. They want the fiefdom. They want to overturn the board. Isn't it so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:30 AM
2

We live in a state where the masses of people matter to the arithmetic of the end result. The pedantry over which specific semantic description to give the American system is interesting and accurate, but for our purposes I propose that we can call it oogabuggabingobango and still get the point across that the masses being unahappy with modernity is a thing they can conspire to correct by their numbers, in fact in a way that's even more exaggerated than a pure democracy would be (which I suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:27 AM
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This is a prediction not an advocacy. I'm running the numbers, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:24 AM
1

People deeply underestimate how liberal their own lives are at this current moment. What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:23 AM
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They were previously prevented from the reaffirmation. The arrow is pointing where it's pointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:23 AM
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I'm not sure if this is contradicting my points in any way I can discern. .Good luck keeping the country afloat when you're experiencing that kind of brain drain (here's a hint, the US became a superpower in the first place because it collected intelligent people who were fed up with their own countries from all across the world. Reverse that and your competitive advantage will dry up very quickly). The masses would spit on the faces of the elite if it would get them to leave (and wouldn't land …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:09 AM
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How do you define "the patriarchy"? The primacy of men, the submission of women. Honor culture. Purity. Corresponding laws and sociocultural norms and standards. If "the patriarchy" existed/exists, when and where did/does it exist? For most of human history in most places. Today, in some places outside of the west, and in some subcultures in the west in a de facto but not de jure sense. Do you think we should live in a "patriarchal" society? If so, why? What would that look like? I think we shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:05 AM
3

Yet here we are, on the doorstep of the official roe overturn Trump said on the campaign trail in 2016 that women who get abortions should be jailed, yet over half of white women voted for him that year 50% of the USA is voting blue no matter who Yet they're dispersed in such a way that the way that our framework is set up, they're diluted. (E.g. electoral college, 2 senators per state, gerrymandering, etc.) These were the bargains that made the founding of this country possible, but they're sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:59 AM
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I don't think it'll be removed (famous last words)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:49 AM
3

I think your star is missing a sixth point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:28 AM
1

Kanye on parenting timeshare Wait, when I pick 'em up, I feel like they borrowed When I gotta return them, scan 'em like a bar code ... Let the kids dig a tunnel to my house like Chapo Only neighbor in the hood with a door they can knock on I leave the light on
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:23 AM
1

I hear it still happens from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:18 AM
1

What was the prior gain
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:45 AM
2

It's not just women, and funny enough it's not even just liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:23 AM
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Women aren’t entitled to the truth either. Okay, unless she is a judge
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:17 AM
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Ain't no laws against lying far as I know
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:59 AM
2

Democracy results in laws, and apparently that's one of em?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:59 AM
0

People can choose what offends them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:55 PM
1

Even assuming for the sake of argument that it's entitled, ain't no laws against entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:50 PM
1

I don't think that's true of just women though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:48 PM
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Generally what makes you a good person to be around for one person usually makes you a good person to be around for another. I disagree. Something can be good for one person but totally wrong for another
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:10 PM
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It's not for you to decide what an individual prioritizes. She's simply not "smart" or [insert characteristic] in the way that he needs, and thus it will be an unfortunate pairing for both people. She, and he, are better off finding people who are in sync with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:22 PM
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Add sexual acts to the list of things women should never, ever reveal to insecure partners Or how about tell them in order to avoid being with an "insecure" partner? Insecure is bad right or am I missing something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:32 PM
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Couldn't agree more It's like Don't boo, vote Don't whine, leave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:31 PM
1

How so
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:17 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:58 PM
1

Even paring down from the 8 billion, there are still more options than any individual could go through in a lifetime. you seem to want people who dislike their place in this dating situation to feel bad about being angry about it? I can only assume they want to solve the underlying issue of finding someone. The anger in itself isn't going to solve the issue. Maybe it can be useful if it is a driver to action.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:50 PM
2

Every era has its pros and cons, and thus its beneficiaries and...not so beneficiaries. It's true, for those whose focus is lifetime monogamy, this is not the era. But even then, different subcultures offer differing realities in this regard as well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:47 PM
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"he/she was such a [redacted]"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:44 PM
0

There's nearly 8 billion people in the world. If someone isn't compatible with literally any of the thousands of people in their immediate vicinity, or the millions of people in their region, time to expand those horizons. Rather than haphazardly, perhaps strategically. For example, if you live somewhere where the predominant political views differ greatly from yours, perhaps it's time to consider a move. People have more flexibility and access to options than ever before, to a degree that as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:16 PM
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I think we are getting a solid dose of the "men are too demanding" whine as well. Regardless, there's only the solution of weed out those who fit the bill of what is desired to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:05 PM
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I think the other opinion seems to be "I don't have any choice because I don't have many options so I'm going to get super angry about it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:01 PM
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“ compatible “ with them, but that really just means that there’s things that they don’t like about me, just say that. Compatible = both partners incite good feelings in each other Take the other post that's up where there's the discussion about women who did other sex acts with past partners. Well, if that makes you feel bad, then leave 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:56 PM
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Doesn't have to be abroad necessarily. "Fixing" yourself, well, that depends on what it is. If it's a fundamental part of your personality/character, it's always going to be at most a temporary fix, like scotch tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:55 PM
5

By whom
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:54 PM
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There's nearly 8 billion people in the world. If someone isn't compatible with literally any of the thousands of people in their immediate vicinity, or the millions of people in their region, time to expand those horizons. Rather than haphazardly, perhaps strategically. For example, if you live somewhere where the predominant political views differ greatly from yours, perhaps it's time to consider a move. People have more flexibility and access to options than ever before, to a degree that as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:52 PM
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The compatible person would be someone who doesn't incite negative feelings in the other person. The rationalization of it is, again, irrelevant. It is of course possible that no such person even exists, in which case the individual is free to choose singledom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:48 PM
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Just as no one is entitled to performance of an act that another person doesn't want to do, no one is entitled to a relationship. I'm not sure why only one of these things bothers you. Were you dumped for not doing anal or something? Well even if you were, I'm not sure why it is even striking a nerve because by your own logic (and really by any objective logic) it was a blessing. Incompatibility is not a good situation for anyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:40 PM
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walk away laughing and pointing. Permission to slutshame eh. You see, my take was just leave. But now you're about doing it while insulting Guess I need to revise to: leave, but call the girl a worthless filthy hooker how you like them apples you paragon of human civility
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:29 PM
1

Seems disingenuous to the point of absurdity to portray utility as unidirectional
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:27 PM
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The rationale of it is kind of besides the point. If your partner doesn't offer what you want (let's say what you want is "someone who will do for me what they did for past partners"), you have every right to leave for that reason, for no reason, or for any reason. Sovereignty is inviolable. Sure, that's distinct from "or else I'll leave". Don't do that. Just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:24 PM
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Not owing goes both ways...viewed charitably, the OP is just saying to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:01 PM
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Viewed charitably, the OP is just saying to leave. Objecting to that would itself suggest a mistaken feeling of ownership
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:00 PM
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12th
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:32 AM
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Without working out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:40 PM
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A+ face
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:00 PM
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while also doing other things I want to get into for the sake of remaining on topic. What are the other things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:09 PM
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Hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:21 PM
2

Is that why they're upset
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:19 PM
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Another reddit cares referral
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:19 PM
1

Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:18 PM
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Well there is What would it be? Maybe it will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:50 PM
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I think addressing fatherlessness would be a huge step in the right direction. How can that be addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:49 PM
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social dystopia What are the dystopic elements
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:49 PM
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Terrifyingly boring 😨
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:30 PM
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I know what you mean. I guess the classic example of a 180 on this issue is Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:05 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:05 PM
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Which I reckon might come from the strong good feelings they get from the positive feedback, which incentivizes them to chase it more, and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:03 PM
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Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:02 PM
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Whatever happened to keeping these people away from normal ass society? Reminds me of How The Loss Of U.S. Psychiatric Hospitals Led To A Mental Health Crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:38 PM
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I think it depends, some people get stronger feelings from it than others
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:36 PM
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The difference in American culture is that there is easy availability of the weapons that young men can use to take out their anger, as well as perhaps a cultural belief that guns are the ultimate "problem solver". Gun rights advocates know that this is the flip-side of wide availability of guns, but do not want to do anything about it because they actually feel that restricting guns is a greater evil and would cause more problems than children occasionally being murdered. I believe guns have al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:35 PM
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I suggest you start by launching an investigation into Rupert Murdoch There appears to be a resonance in his programming, and even a boycott amongst the fandom when the programming doesn't match the audience's expectations. It thus doesn't seem that clear cut. Perhaps he's giving the people that watch him what they want rather than convincing them of what they want (though of course it's a messy proposition to try and tease out completely the flow here)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:24 PM
2

So if the problem were single mothers, is there a solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:22 PM
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By 18? Surely not all, and the ones that don't, they don't appear to be doing such things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:21 PM
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What can be done? Plenty What can be done?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:19 PM
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Presumably there have always been disenfranchised, yet this appears to be a relatively new type of phenomenon. One commenter pointed out the role models/script that now exist, which I guess is new
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:19 PM
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Why now more than before though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:18 PM
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Do you though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:17 PM
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Guns at least have always been widely available, role models/scripts is interesting, I guess one way forward could be to never cover these types of events in the news
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:15 PM
1

Fix like, castration?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:08 PM
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Well, Buffalo dude was from an intact family wasn't he
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:08 PM
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I guess autism isn't new though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:06 PM
1

That's right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:06 PM
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It's always election season. What's not a political issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:05 PM
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Is this from something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:04 PM
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Which affects everyone at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:02 PM
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Or better put, current media tries to place a woman's worth outside of sex. There certainly appears to be sexualization, so in the sense of being an object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:58 AM
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It wouldn't be so without the underlying desire I imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:03 AM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:13 AM
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Speaking of society, both questions are rude, and the people trying to justify the propriety of one over the other just keep digging the hole deeper
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:10 AM
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Doesn't seem to be anything planned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:59 AM
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Is that comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:57 AM
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Assuming that were true, anything short of a ban, which seems unlikely, means there's always this latent risk running around, it's like endemic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:57 AM
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tell each other Which is, possibly at least, driven by a common biological urge
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:17 AM
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They're still angry doe, and while killing might be the worst thing, there are other bad things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:17 AM
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They're still angry doe, and while killing might be the worst thing, there are other bad things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:15 AM
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tell someone Are men being told this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:13 AM
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There is no solution. It’s a symptom of economic and cultural breakdown in the west and only gets solved if that gets solved. Surely there are other poorer countries though where this sort of thing does not seem to happen quite as frequently. I don't know, perhaps this is the canary in the coalmine preceding more organized chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:12 AM
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Teach boys that there are worthy dreams, goals and aspirations to be had outside of getting laid and they'll be happier overall Is not some biological mechanism at work there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:11 AM
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The statement Successful careerwomen have interesting personalities and life experiences to share Suggests that that may be something unique or inherent to them. Maybe I misunderstood 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:51 AM
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😤🍺
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:37 AM
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This is classist as fuck, as though other women do not have interesting personalities and life experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:35 AM
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@menofppd if you could have sex with 20,000 women like wilt chamberlain did who would they be list them all 🎶https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QGzq2HQ2YRs🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:33 AM
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Most men wouldn't marry unless they know that it guarantees them sex on demand You really think it went from everyone having sex on demand to something else Sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:28 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:27 AM
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That's what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:27 AM
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Poor and low-IQ women have the least to lose from having kids. They were doomed to poverty either way In this economy A cohort that's growing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:13 AM
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😢
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:02 AM
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Last
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:37 AM
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Well, the poor do have the most children. I'm not sure about your hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:10 AM
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Any downsides?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:20 AM
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“Most men can get a woman easily. All they have to do is go into a poor neighbourhood and offer a homeless girl enough money. Some of them will even cook and clean for a place to stay!” Doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:09 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:05 PM
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All the guys are just telling their own personal opinions and accounts and finding information that only supports their argument while ignoring those that don't. A To be fair, that's kind of the nature of a discussion like this. Like, isn't that what you're doing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:34 PM
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🥇
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:24 AM
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First to say first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:03 AM
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I'm not following
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:55 AM
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Or one is not as good at achieving their desired result, yet they wanted it nevertheless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:47 AM
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So they're both in that much pain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:09 AM
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They both wanted the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:40 PM
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Self-pump-n-dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:56 PM
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Or am I wrong because most woman view “marriage” as the goal? It's about goals. A guy who has sex as the goal isn't going to prefer being seen as marriage guy. A woman who has marriage as the goal isn't going to prefer being seen as the sex girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:55 PM
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Would you say it's....80-20
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:53 PM
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The commenter was attempting to make a point about men's relative misery, but attempts are certainly relevant to said proposition That's the so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:22 PM
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Women attempt more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:08 PM
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Ah so now we've gone from all to most. I think my work here is done 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:05 PM
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Marriage rates are at all time lows, at least in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:31 PM
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What about women who swear off marriage? Surely you don't think they too--all of them-- want to marry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:22 PM
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Certainly among college educated women, but overall, hard to say I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:02 PM
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always Lol what about prostitution, what about fucking in a club bathroom, what about what about? I mean I guess you could say with the intent in the same way that people play the lottery with the "intent" to become a billionaire maybe that is what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:01 PM
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Mich higher percentage of religious women than virgin women, at least in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:00 PM
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You'll make any excuse for her huh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:49 PM
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Religious women having sex before marriage is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:48 PM
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If it were just socialization, then there would be no secular women in sexually open societies waiting for marriage, and there would be no religious women having sex with before marriage. Of course, that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:41 PM
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Zero women follow their instincts? When you say "women" are you mentally filling in [devout Christian] but not saying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:19 PM
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Well that's what you say, doesn't make it so🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:12 PM
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Before this guy, she was dating for marriage. I think you didn't read the whole OP? She even had a fuck buddy with a guy she knew last summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:12 PM
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typical Heh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:11 PM
1

Required by whom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:11 PM
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Men have a moral obligation to go along with women's plans on when sex occurs No, they do not, as they can simply find a different woman. No plan-folliwing necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:07 PM
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because both partners would feel convicted about premarital sex, Having already previously had it? Which verse
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:04 PM
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You're trolling people aren't you What sick satisfaction do you derive from it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:03 PM
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The whole point of dating is to find a spouse. If you are not looking for a spouse, you should not even be dating What would you call what the woman was doing yet before this guy lol, dating for marriage? Or does your "rule" only apply for men because reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:57 PM
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Cucked = what (mostly) guys on this sub call my opinions... Not literally into cuckoldry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:43 AM
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What you're saying is like someone from Canada blaming everyone in America for Roe v Wade being overturned
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:11 AM
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SeLl Me On MeN
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:12 PM
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You should let people be themselves, and when people tell you who they are, you should listen. You don't have to like it, but in the end you have no choice but to accept the reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:11 PM
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Also in Utah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:33 PM
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The idea that someone having a preference = needs to be fixed doesn't deserve charitable interpretation. It deserves in fact mockery and derision that I'm too noble to offer up alas (this being PPD, no doubt someone will give you what you have coming to you soon enough). Have viewpoints that merit charitability and you might recieve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:20 PM
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A lot of people actually just wish that others could be in a less paranoid, negative place so often. This hubris that other living beings can or need to be fixed is the height of arrogance and presumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:10 PM
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If you’re not willing to wait for someone if they want to (ok maybe not too long) then you aren’t patient that’s not inherent or a virtue compatible You are of course free to judge people. Ain't no laws against it last I checked. But then they're also free to judge you, and you're free to meta-judge them, and they're free to meta-judge you, and so on until the heat death of the universe. But regardless in no event should someone try to force themselves to be what they're not. If they're "impatie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:59 PM
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Some women would be put off by waiting. Some women would be indifferent to waiting and wouldn't see waiting as any indicator in either direction. Some women believe what you believe. There are men who are compatible which each type of woman, and vice versa. Only mistake here anyone can make is to try to deny who they are and push through with someone they're just not a good match for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:55 PM
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It could mean that, for some people. And those are people who are compatible and should be together. If only one of the people sees waiting that way, they are not compatible, and so they're each far better served finding someone different who is compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:53 PM
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Or people weed out the incompatible. There's this in my view wholly unrealistic and frankly somewhat irrational thread of reasoning in American/western thought that every single deviation from the zeitgeist is some kind of abomination meant to be relentlessly attacked and self-helped and therapied into eventual sweet oblivion. What if that's fucking ludicrously insane and actually what people should be doing is listening to their gut rather than treating it like a horrific disease? I mean certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:47 PM
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I think there are premises that make sense to debate, but "you'd be willing to wait if you cared" isn't really an argument. It's an opinion, to which the ready response would be "nuh-uh", and then yours would be "uh-huh", and so on. It's also a fairly high burden to meet even as an opinion. It would require, for example, that no man unwilling to wait has ever gotten into a mutually loving relationship, and responses by women in this very thread clearly demonstrate that that isn't true. The waiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:43 PM
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It is up to the individual how to assess the other person's past (or present, or future, or whatever other characteristics) and there are no limits to this sovereignty. For example, you'll see that many women will consider a man having ever even once seen a prostitute as a deal breaker. It is each individual's inalienable right to account for anything they want to account for. In fact, any limits to this sovereignty, to demand a kind of meta-fairness for its own sake in this regard, is counterpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:23 PM
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It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:52 PM
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As you're seeing throughout the thread, many feel safest making inferences of some measure of inconsistency based on their understanding of their environment. Both genders do this with respect to the matters that are of their interest, and so it is difficult to begrudge them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:50 PM
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Why are you so bothered by individuals making private decisions about who they will or won't be in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:49 PM
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Why are you so bothered by individuals making private decisions about who they will or won't be in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:49 PM
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If you do find out that she had been promiscuous with other guys, that’s a problem for sure. There's not necessarily such a thing as "finding out". As you're seeing throughout the thread, many feel safest making inferences of some measure of inconsistency based on their understanding of their environment. Both genders do this with respect to the matters that are of their interest, and so it is difficult to begrudge them that. Thus once you get past step 1 "assumption that she has slept with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:45 PM
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But if we’ve seen this data, shouldn’t we prefer partners who don’t sleep with new partners right away? Shouldn’t we actually commend that sort of thing? Would you really prefer someone with a low cost-of-entry for new sexual partners? The argument, such as it is, is that the women are waiting selectively, it would be ok to wait if she made everyone wait, but the fact that she only makes certain people wait means if you're one of the ones she is making wait, then it is a bad situation. Which, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:29 PM
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My wife for instance is low n Any girl can just lie to you about her n count anyways 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:14 PM
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When men hear things like this, it angers them. Uh ok so don't be with someone that angers you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:13 PM
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There's a question of strategic palatability of the message. The roe situation has me thinking that it's time to start addressing this as an issue of the type of salesmanship being used, and measured by how effective it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:00 PM
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But that means nothing Well, it is a democracy, and not only is it a democracy but at least in the US it's a weighted democracy (Senate, electoral college, etc), so I'm not sure how it's possible to conclude that it "means nothing".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:49 PM
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Measuring whether treatment is good or not in the long term and whether or not it's good in the short term also have different dynamics because of the nature of time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:46 PM
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Fuckin, prolly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:53 AM
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IQ is a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:53 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:52 AM
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(bridal) shower thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:20 PM
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Are you saying that's universal? Nothing's perfect I guess, but neither is everything the worst thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:57 PM
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although they ignore the fact that would make them mindless animals Are you sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:54 PM
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It's like the other commenter said, best treatment is subjective, but the position goes something like short term men gets the quick sex which is what the men want while long term women get the long term commitment which is what women want. True or not, well, that depends of course on the individual and what they value etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:50 PM
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Better treatment is subjective. Hence it's an argument without a conclusion other than what the individual deems to be good or not good treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:33 PM
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The argument, such as it is, pertains to who gets the better treatment in each dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:37 PM
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The argument, such as it is, is that short term men are the ones getting the best treatment, while long term women are the ones getting the best treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:29 PM
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Just go on r/relationship_advice, most of the time the women is the one suffering in the relationship One person suffering doesn't necessarily mean the other is happy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:19 PM
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going back Might as well wrap it up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:53 AM
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maga
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:20 AM
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Lightning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:13 AM
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Yeah, but also there's a lack of understanding and context when people say these things. a girl might like a photo but she's not literally fucking a photo. Charisma, smell, voice, etc., these are not present variables in photo ratings and yet they're so crucial in on the ground pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:05 AM
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The argument, such as it is, is that they're settling, that only the men they're "truly" attracted to are getting good treatment while the other men are getting crumbs and duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:57 AM
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I feel seen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:38 AM
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Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:48 AM
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Feminists are disproportionately likely to want 50-50 expenditure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:46 AM
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You're blaming women for men having lower expectations? Empathy is a pretty charitable description
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:45 AM
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Is it feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:44 AM
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It's like $3 lol why are you so offended
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:43 AM
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He's 40 years old working part time. I mean I don't know that that's exactly golddigging to not want to choose to remain
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:42 AM
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For her Starbucks? I mean seriously what's the big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:41 AM
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Why's that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:40 AM
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doesn’t pay for her Starbucks The horror...I mean seriously, that's entitled now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:39 AM
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he is 40 and I’m 47. Might just be in different life stages
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:38 AM
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Conspiracy theory: this is propaganda by corporations to try to lay the groundwork for return to office
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:36 PM
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More than a third of single white-collar workers think returning to the office will help their sex lives, according to a new survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:09 PM
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The rarer is more jarring, whether fair or not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:33 PM
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Every generation thinks they're the one who has everything figured out correctly. But knowledge evolves, and so the gaps in our current understanding if any will be revealed in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:29 PM
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they don't want to use condoms Alas, recklessness is an equal opportunity endeavor Men Aren't Only to Blame: Young Women Resist Condom Use as Well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:35 PM
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the condom industry would go bankrupt. Alas, recklessness is an equal opportunity endeavor Men Aren't Only to Blame: Young Women Resist Condom Use as Well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:24 PM
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1) He caused the problem by having sex and not using condoms. They?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:19 PM
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They've been indocrinated by sex-pozzy cuck culture Is it you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:55 PM
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legal plane crashes Lol that's a good way to put it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:24 PM
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as the logical, stronger, and more intelligent gender I don't know about that, well other than physically stronger
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:21 PM
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Statutory rape victim forced to pay child support The justice system is not perfect. Like every other system, it is made up of people, and so from time to time you get results like this. It's my understanding/hope that this is not the norm, but it has happened a nonzero amount of times, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:15 PM
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I assume people would not do this IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:02 PM
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It's the best
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:36 PM
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I slept with a guy for the first time & he told me I’d be ‘hotter’ if I lost weight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:00 AM
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Whatever else may be legitimate about your position, child support isn't restricted to the rich
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:42 PM
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Look around you. Your parents could die soon. You will lose a loved one at some point and realize how much other problems were never real problems. Your may get a health problem and long for the days where your biggest problem is why you didn't get a match on tinder. To be fair, people don't choose to be born with few real problems any more than they choose to be born with many real problems
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:02 PM
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Uncles, aunts and grandparents often played pivotal roles, when something happened to parents. Extended family was often a necessity, and homes were passed from generation to generation, to provide a constant “home base”. Much has changed since then. Much of this part at least in theory need not have changed, and it seems to be the detriment of many that it's deteriorated. Even when accounting for modern conveniences, parenting in isolation is far from optimal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:31 PM
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The argument, such as it is, is that modern times are incompatible with a family. Though not for the same reasons (unless you dig deep enough, in some instances), that's not even a particularly uncommon perspective, certainly not unique to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:42 PM
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Life is pretty unpredictable. "Best laid plans" and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:42 PM
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We're all pretty much just guessing at this point. The price of a mobile society
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:37 PM
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Unless you're a top 20% man, courtship is for her benefit and your detriment. Period. How does courtship benefit top 20% men in your view
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:52 PM
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How does immigration stop white people from having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:30 PM
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For entitled women, they expect you to pay for their recreational use of birth control. I believe Obamacare requires insurance to cover birth control. Is that what you're referring to? It appears the argument won, since it's policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:27 PM
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There's certainly no consensus that people should forego for example finding height or strength attractive if that's what they find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:25 PM
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Yes but by talking about community property you...initiated a discussion about community property in the subsequent sentences. That's how language works and how the words you used work. There was no caveat or modification to indicate that you'd ceased talking about community property. Thus as written, you are misleading people and potentially dooming them. You should edit your comment to clarify what you did mean. Some people for whatever reason take the comments of random internet strangers as …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:13 PM
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Marriage entitles you to half of the community property. Things bought during the marriage as a couple, like a house. That does not apply to your paycheck. You don't need even need a prenuptial for that. Joint accounts are community property regardless of who puts more in, but marriage does not allow access or ownership to private accounts. The entire bolded part is false, at least for community property regime, which is what the first sentence introduced as the topic. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:59 PM
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Well you were talking about community property, which is a term that applies to ...states with community property.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:55 PM
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Things bought during the marriage as a couple, like a house. That does not apply to your paycheck. It actually does. I mean a lot of people don't end up saving money, it ends up getting used in marital expenses, but the money earned during marriage is community and the savings are community
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:49 PM
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end up dying alone in a nursing home with nobody that cares about you. That can happen either way. I mean to say that avoiding this is not a good reason to make these kinds of decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:47 PM
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The post you should've made instead from the looks of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:20 PM
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The female expecting the man to be far richer/make far more money People today marry partners of similar income and education (assortative mating)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:11 PM
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Damn there has been complaining for a long time. The passage of time makes it all the more clear which side won.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:10 PM
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Just needs to be video instead of fixed image
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:19 AM
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It will never happen again. Not with that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:05 AM
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Hope he sees this, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:27 AM
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At best that justifies mutual mistrust
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:23 AM
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The instinctive mind doesn't just catch up to modern conditions/technology. That's why, for example, height/strength remain attractive qualities even though we aren't hunting/fighting daily as we were in ancestral times. Regardless, some people do catch up more quickly than others
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:23 AM
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That's not really how it works. Do you think women were "politely invited" into the conversation when they agitated for change?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:06 AM
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The relevant question is whether or not they're better off not marrying at all rather than relative unfairness between the parties at divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:00 AM
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So meet women from elsewhere? We've got the internet and stuff now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:59 AM
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they go along with it because it's social suicide not to Apparently not, since there are in fact men (and women) who don't go along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:48 AM
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They're trying, affirmative action in colleges is now being geared towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:46 AM
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Arguably women also benefit, depending on the woman, and since men are still marrying apparently some do benefit from it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:58 PM
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You can just discreetly go about your business through OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:35 PM
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Conflated rmv
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:33 PM
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There are in fact people who would take it as a joke, or at least not get that upset... Maybe they're just not compatible, and it's good for both of them that they found out early, lest they become trapped in a vicious cycle of the guy feeling like he has to walk on eggshells and the girl taking offense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:31 PM
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They're both working and they're both responsible for raising children
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:25 PM
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I mean yeah guys can choose not to marry also right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:25 PM
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can and sometimes can't, and sometimes it gives off the opposite impression of the reality. Maybe on average it would be accurate but the person in question needs the process to be accurate for that specific person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:23 PM
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I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:22 PM
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Employers certainly do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:21 PM
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only if these partners are recent Could it be preferences at a given stage in life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:57 PM
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Yeah, I've caught a lot of women lying. Dude, they even lie in anonymous surveys, what makes you think they won't lie to a man they want? Seems like there's no real way to know anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:55 PM
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What's n count have to do with feeling deceived when their egalitarian partner is suddenly changing their mind at the worst possible time to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:53 PM
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If they're so insistent on this then A. Why pretend to be egalitarian B. Why marry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:43 PM
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When men say "I want to raise a family in an egalitarian manner" and then do the contrary when the bill comes due, that is certainly a problem and it is not a political one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:39 PM
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Lol the meme...makes sense, and yet it doesn't seem that there's a way out of this spiral
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:38 PM
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Desirability and willingness to be loyal. What's a desirable man who is willing to be loyal going to choose over marriage ..spinning plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:36 PM
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If women are the natural nurturers, why would they be complaining. Maybe it's not so cut and dry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:36 PM
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Well yeah. Ain't no laws against it. But then there's divorce and the complaints about divorce (often by men) yet she, too, is free to leave 🤷‍♂️ Could be that marriage and families are no longer a sustainable thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:34 PM
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That literally all of them claim to have personality detectors or anything along those lines
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:32 PM
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That could be the case. Might just be that marriage, families, etc., are no longer really a sustainable endeavor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:32 PM
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Seems awfully convenient to "change your mind" precisely when the going gets tough. If that's the case, how can women be blamed when they say they don't trust men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:31 PM
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Very possible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:30 PM
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That seems highly unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:29 PM
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Are all women saying this? What about the women who don't say this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:28 PM
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SINGLE WOMEN WORK LESS HOURS THAN SINGLE MEN. How's that possible? Unmarried childless women in big cities outearn their male counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:27 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:26 PM
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Then there's literally no way to know in advance If women want men who do their 50%, perhaps they should choose men who are willing to do the 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:25 PM
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How's it her fault if he changes from what he was?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:24 PM
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Housewives from the 50s didn't have to work. Takes two incomes now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:23 PM
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Whose problem is this? Sounds like women are complaining more about things than men or they get more mainstream media attention for their complaints. Men do seem to be complaining about lack of sex, companionship, etc. Even if it's not amplified through the mainstream as much (partially because men are less inclined to do such a thing non anonymously in the first place)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:23 PM
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Why not just be up front about it. The issue seems to be that men are pretending they want egalitarian marriages until kids come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:21 PM
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Nevertheless, the premise remains that men are not freed in the way the OP contemplates
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:21 PM
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Regardless, the freedom is not happening, and the lack of sex Less sex than ever Is something men are complaining about. Thus porn is quite apparently not the panacea you purport it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:20 PM
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Have you considered that the woman may want to work longer shifts but that that possibility is foreclosed by the man not doing his equal share at home (after starting off by pretending that he would).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:19 PM
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The ability to get a divorce doesn't lead to the necessity of getting one. Apparently distribution of household labor is a significant contributing factor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:18 PM
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I'm a guy. I think what people should do is be up front about what they want. It's not like it benefits men to be in an unhappy marriage. The men who are pretending they want egalitarian marriages should stop pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:17 PM
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The middle class salaries mostly require college degrees. It's in fact men who colleges have to do affirmative action for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:16 PM
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The change appears to happen after kids come along, so they're not getting the husband they married. It's like the meme of male feminists being wolves in sheep's clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:15 PM
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Not only that but apparently the men were in on this ...until children came along. It's like the meme of male feminists being wolves in sheep's clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:15 PM
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The change appears to happen after kids come along, so they're not getting the husband they married. It's like the meme of male feminists being wolves in sheep's clothing. Also, marriage rates are declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:14 PM
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I don't think expecting equal contribution to the household is "unrealistic" in an objective sense. It may very well not be on offer though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:13 PM
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Making it all the more of a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:12 PM
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the idea that men will become women is a liberal/leftist myth and wishful thinking on the part of women. At the least, men should not pretend to be otherwise at the outset as appears to be happening. It's like that meme of male feminists being wolves in sheep's clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:12 PM
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Which part of biology makes this inevitable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:10 PM
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The only solution is to not entertain men who don't see childcare as an equal responsibility. Apparently the millennial men are changing their minds when children come along
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:09 PM
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There's porn, yet there's men complaining about lack of sex. Where's the freeing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:07 PM
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Job gaps should be allowed. Deferred education should be accessible. Working from home should be encouraged. Age discrimination should be eliminated. Until those measures are achieved, what do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:06 PM
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Yeah I mean change isn't usually deliberately orchestrated by the masses
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:05 PM
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I'm confused. What do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:04 PM
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Cheating is nothing new, and isn't limited to the wealthy. The more money a man has, the more likely he is to be married in a relative sense. What other measure of value are you relying on for the proposition that it's the opposite, that men of high value are the ones who are or will be discarding marriage? Already conceded that financial situation isn't the only way to measure a man's value, but then what measure are you referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:04 PM
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The issue here is the change in the guys' attitudes apparently happen once the children come. it's like that meme of feminist men being wolves in sheep's clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:02 PM
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How about a 750k salary and a 120k house lmao. The whole social situation does not seem to be sustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:01 PM
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Lol. Well is the conclusion here that marriage is now unworkable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:00 PM
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More men meaning more than half? Or more than there are now? Certainly there's a matching problem at play, finding people who are compatible with what you want. But to the extent that there are men pretending they are into equal contribution at home only until the children come, and then after that they want the 50s style arrangement from their wife, that doesn't do anyone any good
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:59 PM
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Does not appear to be working out that way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:54 PM
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the men of value especially are gonna opt out. I guess it depends on how value is defined, but even today wealthier men are more likely to be married
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:52 PM
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The idea here is that if they're not going to get their virgin, they might as well get someone who will put out, so as not to lose out on both fronts. Do with that what you will I guess, I mean there's no time machine at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:47 PM
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I'm a guy. I also think vetting is a false idea in modern society. It's just something people use to blame each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:45 PM
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Well it's a discussion. You're saying "the article does not adequately establish its premise". I hear you. I didn't post this as science or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:44 PM
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Have you considered that the woman may want to work longer shifts but that that possibility is foreclosed by the man not doing his equal share at home (after starting off by pretending that he would). NY post I mean they're not exactly liberal though. I thought it made it all the more surprising it was in there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:43 PM
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Where the man is dictating who gets to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:42 PM
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Have you considered that the woman may want to work longer shifts but that that possibility is foreclosed by the man not doing his equal share at home (after starting off by pretending that he would).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:41 PM
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I'm serious, when is the bottom going to fall out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:41 PM
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From the New York Post, which as far as the political spectrum goes isn't exactly the Huffington Post or even the New York Times Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kids I've provided some excerpts in the OP but the full article is linked as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:40 PM
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I don't think this is an issue that lends itself to blame. People respond to their personal incentives. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:39 PM
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Have you considered that the woman may want to work longer shifts but that that possibility is foreclosed by the man not doing his equal share at home (after starting off by pretending that he would).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:38 PM
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Alas, silence is not dispositive. Take for example men feigning belief in equality until the children come
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:34 PM
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The argument, such as it is, is that a relatively small portion of men is having the lion's share of sex. Regardless, suffice it to say that the whining doesn't seem destined to dissipate anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:32 PM
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Not everyone is lucky enough to have good choices to choose between
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:30 PM
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So when will marriage hit zero
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:28 PM
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You understand I hope the amount of gymnastics required to make that claim. It underscores an issue caused by men not doing their part on the home front after apparently feigning that they would do so. It's like that meme about the feminist guy being a wolf in sheep's clothing They don't particularly. It's women who demand this, men don't really push for equality in marriage. So men are at best pretending to play along ..for what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:28 PM
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Paradoxically, at lower income levels (which I'm assuming for the woman as well due to assortative mating), it can be more cost-effective for the woman to stay at home rather than work because of the cost of childcare relative to what she can earn in the workforce. Perhaps that's neither here nor there, I mean yeah there's certainly no shortage of reasons that the society is unsustainable as currently constituted
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:26 PM
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Why are you even participating in this thread lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:25 PM
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There is certainly a lot of messaging that tries to indicate the contrary, not the least of which is the men themselves putting on the act until the children come
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:24 PM
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So what would they come up with as the alternative to the present (I mean it's all speculative of course, but while we're here)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:24 PM
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Finally, marriage rates have reached a historical low now that promiscuity is rampant in women. So we can conclude that men care about n count Then how are any marriages happening at all outside the branch-davidian-compound-type locales
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:23 PM
2

Doesn't seem like a sustainable society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:22 PM
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In what sense, like you're not in a relationship so it's inapplicable to you? You're in a relationship with a traditional woman? I'm not sure I follow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:21 PM
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People can have whatever lawful preference they wish. But the problem is when this preference isn't revealed and acted on upfront but rather ambushed on the other person when the kids come.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:20 PM
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It's domestic servitude when only one of the people does the work and only one of the people is expected to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:19 PM
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(some) women really want children. If it's what's available, I'm not sure how sober a choice it is. This desire, it doesn't exist in a vaccuum. It's very motivating, for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:18 PM
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How is equally sharing the chores in a household they both live in to handle a mess they both contribute to and help raise a child they both agreed to have the same as "doing the chores for the female"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:18 PM
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And yet the demands persist, apparently. What do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:17 PM
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If she wants a kid and that's what's available, I don't know if "dumb" is necessarily accurate. I mean yeah I get it make the bed and lie in it or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:16 PM
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Do current circumstances even allow for that? Work history gap etc...can't fight city hall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:16 PM
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They're both choosing to have kids together. "Fuck you" doesn't seem to be a recipe for cooperative success lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:15 PM
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Well that's the point here right is that millennial men are apparently feigning a belief in and desire for equality...until the bill comes due
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:15 PM
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And yet men outearn women in every age group. Childless unmarried women in large cities outearn their male counterparts And yes, men want 50s wives.There is no point in marriage for a man if you don't raise your kids and don't take care of the house. We don't marry women for their money. The issue seems to be that millennial men are feigning a desire for and belief in equality until the bill comes due Why are women jerking each other off so much? What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:14 PM
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so now they want to work AND do the chores and raise the kids. They wanted, expected, and believed that the husbands would do their share
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:12 PM
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Maybe some women. You're a woman right? You care if things are true or not I take it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:20 PM
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Was looking for elaboration I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:44 PM
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Lol what do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:42 PM
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Flair doesn't check out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:41 PM
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What was the giveaway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:22 PM
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Which is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:19 PM
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People without boundaries as to their preferences and needs end up making everyone miserable, themselves and their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:58 PM
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unser Kampf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:39 PM
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Sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:16 AM
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Meta-analysis of the n on n-count studies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:27 AM
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most just do it because it is expected. So they're doing it because it's expected, but they're not getting the results they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:24 PM
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Catherine the Great and Potemkin I hear he makes a mean village
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:23 PM
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kind of sad. Is it? Are they satisfied with their dating lives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:19 PM
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Well, you can't take them back. Might as well go for a record. It's a post on r/advice what were you hoping for exactly time machine
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:52 AM
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NASA wants to send nudes to space in order to attract aliens The images were revealed as part of study included in NASA's 'Beacon in the Galaxy' project.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:02 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:35 AM
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Ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:14 PM
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And quite frankly I think it's insulting to give this advice to others who are struggling. There are tons of people who don't do any of this hobby and self-improvement crap, they go to work, come home, then watch Netflix and cuddle with their SO. What would you prefer they say instead
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:12 PM
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It effectively already is, but not in an especially convenient or workable manner. Rural on one side, urban on the other (visual)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:54 PM
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Due to the way the population balance is set up in the electoral college and the Senate in particular, GOP elected officials perform a different type of calculus than national public opinion. For example, much of that 70% is clustered in constituencies where a democrat has no chance of winning, while from the perspective of a GOP office holder, if they don't give their people what they want, they'll be replaced by a different republican who will. I think one of the best examples of this was in 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:51 PM
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With Roe likely to fall, Senate Republicans weigh nationwide abortion restrictions Mitch McConnell Acknowledges a National Abortion Ban Is “Possible” if Roe Is Overturned The top Senate Republican explained that a federal abortion ban is on the table in his most explicit comments to date about what the SCOTUS draft leak could mean going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:43 PM
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With Roe likely to fall, Senate Republicans weigh nationwide abortion restrictions Mitch McConnell Acknowledges a National Abortion Ban Is “Possible” if Roe Is Overturned The top Senate Republican explained that a federal abortion ban is on the table in his most explicit comments to date about what the SCOTUS draft leak could mean going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:43 PM
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Fair. If they're actually fighting for justice, they should expect that they will face hate just as previous generations of justice fighters had to. Progress, however one may define it, isn't just handed over without objection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:02 PM
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calling society and laws that most people consider reasonable as unjust and oppressive That's a slippery slope to go down. Many of the laws we take for granted today were all but unthinkable by a majority of the population within living memory That would leave the assumption that modern society and laws have reached perfection whereas just 6 or so decades ago they were unenlightened. I guess only another 60 years will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:57 PM
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Genuinely is of course going to do a lot of work there, but yeah, that would be my take
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:53 AM
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I never said otherwise. It seems to go without saying that someone who prefers short term treatment shouldn't marry, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:41 AM
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What's it called when you do both at the same time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:25 AM
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Both genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:08 AM
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I feel there are some details missing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:57 PM
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Highly attractive women are perceived as more aggressive by other women when wearing make-up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:04 PM
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The dispute, such as it is, is whether the "short term" option or the "long term" option gets better treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:24 PM
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Or more importantly, does it have to come from a place of authority? Or will peer discussions suffice? If their peers happen to be ones not sufficiently into the prevailing perspective, well, there goes that. On the other hand, maybe that is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:34 PM
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11-13 I assume then you think it should be 18...so let's say they're off to college and then the workforce, and there's been no discussion of any of this, so then what are they supposed to do? How can they even be employable without at least speaking the language of elite tolerance if not actually subscribing to it? You may despise them and the power they have but hopefully you recognize that wishing it away doesn't actually change the underlying reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:53 PM
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No matter how slim the rest of my body gets, my thighs stay thick, and I really can’t help it. Humblebrag: the post
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:45 PM
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Thus why most guys are struggling nowadays especially to embrace a MGTOW-esque stance and just stop playing the rigged game, because for 99% of people family is the number one source of joy in life, and a lot of guys are starting to realize that he might never be able to form a healthy family, if he can form one at all. I'm confused are you saying it's the most achievable goal or it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:37 PM
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Exactly. This is the reality that needs to be reckoned with directly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:15 PM
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That's why I included the part about in a general sense, as it's not like what you said is limited to you or limited to PPD. It's a take I am seeing pretty frequently out there, and the thing is it has this paradoxical effect in my view where it minimizes what is at stake because it gives the impression that sex will somehow go away and make everything ok, when human nature readily indicates the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:13 PM
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This will make it harder for the average guy to get a date at all because the filter will be more brutal on them. They assume it will give them more opportunities to show they are worth it. People were having sex even before roe v Wade. Taking this approach to the argument minimizes what is at stake because it gives the impression that sex will somehow go away and make everything ok, when human nature readily indicates the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:10 PM
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Of all the arguments to make in support of abortion, this one seems misguided. It's not like no one had sex before roe v Wade LMAO. I mean, I get it, it's a jarring situation, but muh sex drought instead of actually valid arguments seems counterproductive. I mean this in a general sense and not specifically about you in particular of course. Anyone is free to advocate however they please, but in this crucial moment, focusing on the heart of the matter seems most appropriate to me at least--carry…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:09 PM
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Without any examples, it's hard to assess whether or not the material in question is legitimate or illegitimate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:25 PM
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it has the exact opposite effect of what they are intending; women are completely turned off by this submissive behavior. Perhaps the most embarrassing part is these guys who shame men and virtue signal seeking women’s validation are struggling as much or more than the men they’re criticizing, and it’s so obvious it’s pathetic. "Hope she sees this, bro", the post Maybe it's just you who only does or doesn't do things based on likelihood of getting laid, whereas the guys you're criticizing, has i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:12 PM
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8-5 = 3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:26 AM
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How many women bleeding to death in back alleys would it take to conclude that it doesn't justify the precious cash savings (most child support goes uncollected anyway even as it is)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:24 AM
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looks like we might be going with the latter. Happy now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:07 AM
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Signs point to yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:23 PM
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proven How has it done that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:19 PM
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I don't think people do it to improve their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:19 PM
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Some women are
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:37 PM
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on my wife’s side it would be third generation That's pretty cool
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:35 PM
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For example, For most highly educated women, motherhood doesn’t start until the 30s It's not a guarantee, of course, but odds are
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:34 PM
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Ostensibly with the corresponding idea that the girl who got pregnant would be a classmate with similar motives to not carry to term
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:28 PM
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It would probably be inaccurate to ignore that possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:27 PM
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One of the openers in the article talks about what if it became illegal to fly home for an abortion. Not sure how that would be possible logistically but just thought it was interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:23 PM
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Would You Send Your Kid to College in a State Where Abortion Was a Crime? Even airing the question shows what a different country we're about to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:20 PM
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on paper What's this mean exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:16 PM
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So what's the actual reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:10 PM
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If there's no solution, what's even the point? "There is a problem" Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:38 PM
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Then what is your proposed solution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:02 PM
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Lol that's all you got
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:40 PM
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69 times All on 4/20
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:04 PM
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There are those who choose to settle out of desperation and those who choose to hold out for what they are worth. You're worth what you can get If broken down in simple terms absent “pill” terminology, most men would concede almost all of them. So why doesn't anyone do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:01 PM
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the most ambicious, wealthy and smart men That's not enough alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:00 PM
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Could be correlation rather than causation, and necessary but not sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:54 PM
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My first reaction...they didn't think it through did they My second reaction...they thought it through didn't they
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:30 PM
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Aww
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:16 PM
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"Do you believe in abortion or no as a principle?" "The answer is there has to be some form of punishment," Trump said. "For the woman?" Matthews said. Trump said, "Yes," and nodded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:09 PM
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Louisiana Republicans advance bill that would charge abortion as homicide
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:54 PM
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is fine? "Fine" for this purpose is determined by the marketplace of each person's available options
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:33 PM
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after almost 25 years of reading pill content The pharmacist is in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:32 PM
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Roetest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:47 AM
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I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:37 AM
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After a year of incorporating those belifs in his own life, he suddenly starts to have luck with women. He gets a few hookups, a few flings etc and his life feels more fulfilled and complete now that he has found success in the dating market. How would you go about de-radicalizing a dude like that? Which beliefs did he incorporate? Did it involve basic grooming and fitness? If so, might suggest that those were the driver of his newfound success and he is experiencing it despite the rest of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:57 PM
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MAGA is the most extreme political organization in American history': Biden warns of Republicans' 'ultra MAGA agenda'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:34 PM
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Abortion rights would be up to the states if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. Two dozen states and territories would ban it immediately, and 13 have “trigger laws” waiting for the ruling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:44 AM
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This intense drive makes them more reckless Alas carelessness is an equal opportunity situation Men Aren't Only to Blame: Young Women Resist Condom Use as Well Newsweek
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:02 AM
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They do all this because... That's what men want? The researchers found roughly half of women in the study engaged in unprotected sex. Nearly 40 percent of women who fell into this group said they downplayed the risks with their male partners, while 33 percent said they used "seduction tactics," which the authors described as getting a man sexually aroused enough that he gave into her request for unprotected sex. Your perspective is too cucked even for me as I view women with minds and agency an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:18 PM
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Alas carelessness is an equal opportunity situation Men Aren't Only to Blame: Young Women Resist Condom Use as Well Newsweek
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:22 PM
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never in my life have I felt as anxious as I now do in anticipation of the debate that is about to unfold. Why's that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:38 PM
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Some reddit admin "that PPD does draw a lot of depressed people"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:40 AM
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I can't cope with this message alone Hi there, A concerned redditor reached out to us about you. When you're in the middle of something painful, it may feel like you don't have a lot of options. But whatever you're going through, you deserve help and there are people who are here for you. • Text CHAT to Crisis Text Line at 741741. You'll be connected to a Crisis Counselor from Crisis Text Line, who is there to listen and provide support, no matter what your situation is. It's free, confidential,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:50 AM
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the fucking refusal of the conservative majority to even hold a hearing on garland, who 100% should have been sworn in instead of gorsuch. It was within the possibility of what they could do (I assume there was no way to prevent that) and that's how the left has to start doing things in order to effectively compete
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:15 AM
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I'm a guy Did you read your own backup. What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:13 AM
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Men are extremely reckless with sex sometimes Alas carelessness is an equal opportunity situation Men Aren't Only to Blame: Young Women Resist Condom Use as Well Newsweek
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:24 AM
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Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows "We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:24 AM
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Like it or not, the real answer is that this is a reflection of the overall major problem with dating. Women have dramatically inflated self images created by abundance in online dating, social media and in person. Everything else is simply smoke and mirrors. I'm not seeing that you've proposed any solutions. I doubt whining about it will change anything. In fact, it seems likely to have the exact opposite effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:15 PM
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No one? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:18 PM
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I was just addressing the idea that there isn't a difference rather than opining on need or not need. As to that, I mean who cares LMAO people will keep saying they need whatever they need, and other people will say their needs are not needs, and still other people will argue the first and second groups, while all of us live like the royalty of eras gone by, repeated until heat death of the universe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:38 PM
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The sensation feels way better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:45 PM
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I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:36 PM
2

Ohh haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:56 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:55 PM
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It does happen, and it happens more than the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:49 PM
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You need to drive to fulfill the necessities of life. Don't need to go on a date, as many women choose not to nowadays given what's on offer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:38 PM
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Uber Teats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:37 PM
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pretty handsome, tall dude, just not elite tier What do you believe is missing for you to be elite tier
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:43 PM
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Found this sub a few years ago around the time I transitioned into a topical line of work, and it just kinda stuck. Wasn't really into reddit before but I gotta say it's definitely the best sub on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:39 PM
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r/ppdrehab
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:35 PM
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🎶 where everybody knows your (user)name🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:34 PM
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The issue with the premise in the OP is that in the long run just about everyone regardless of gender ends up at from their point of view, it’s really not that great. thus it's not really possible to say that being one or the other gender is better because in the end people grow accustomed to their advantages (hedonic treadmill) and overwhelmed by their disadvantages
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:55 PM
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Ah I see so we should all defer to your selective sampling of YouTube videos instead
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:32 PM
1

Who is more likely to be raped and/or murdered on a heterosexual date, a man or a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:32 PM
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Phalliarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:26 AM
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My favorite is when people forget that humans are not purely rational. I forget what that's called.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:53 AM
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Human society operates fallaciously Always has and always will The fallacy fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:35 AM
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That's what I was going for :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:41 AM
1

Why not just become dinner date only escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:41 AM
2

Too reasonable for PPD good luck LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:15 AM
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Workahol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:10 AM
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F DS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:12 AM
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if people love him, he won. That's a big if. PR can only go so far, and I have a feeling that this who isn't who he was hoping for
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:16 AM
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Hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:12 AM
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Not you too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:12 AM
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Money maybe can't buy happiness, but it can buy image recovery (sometimes)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:12 AM
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Time use stats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:11 AM
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Time use stats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:11 AM
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Seinfeld reincarnate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:32 AM
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straight
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:31 AM
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But you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:30 AM
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I'm dating successful boss bitch kind of women, which is a headache in and of itself. Sounds like a skewed sample
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:31 AM
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Unfortunately people don't always show their true colors up front. I don't know why anyone would do that as it's desperate and gross, but so it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:29 AM
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Well there's always prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:07 AM
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Adapt or be left behind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:06 AM
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No you're not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:05 AM
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Username checks out Maybe men are more than their penises
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:00 AM
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Based on "choice", yet is it really a meaningful choice when men refuse to do their fair share on the home front
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:33 AM
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Women changing their voting patterns, or the laws suddenly changing, won't suddenly instill the norms and understanding that people who grew up with guns have. even if that's been caused by women's voting patterns to date, reversing it isn't as simple as ok make it easier now because the elements that make gun ownership a reasonable thing, which are present in some places, are missing elsewhere. Maybe something like universal gun ownership could do the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:32 AM
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I can't put my finger on why this sounds so resentful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:27 AM
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So go find those girls Who is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:26 AM
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I'm not seeing an argument I'm also not seeing anyone holding a gun to guys' head and forcing them to pay for dates 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:22 AM
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Surely it would be easy to refute then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:21 AM
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I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:21 AM
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You can't just stick someone into gun culture and expect it to work out. Now if we're talking about a new day where people grow up with guns, how to use them responsibly, when not to use them, etc, maybe you have a point. It's true that the people that make the laws and the people governed by the laws have a huge disconnect in terms of their realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:20 AM
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You should drop the part about murder, because men are actually far, far more likely to be murdered than women But for both genders the likelihood is that the murder is perpetrated by a man, aka the exposure women are signing up for when going on a date with a man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:58 PM
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Uh huh, if you don't like it you can leave and find a better a man, nobody's forcing you to stay in a relationship or live in the same house as a man that you're incompatible with. Oh sure just be a single mom bro 🤣 and of course the same people like you will then proceed to criticize single moms
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:53 PM
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That household work is woman's work. Men either explicitly state they won't do it or demonstrate through their actions of not contributing their fair share to household labor. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:50 PM
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Doesn't necessarily need to be the woman whose career takes a backseat after childbirth, the guy could be the one to do that. They make the decision to have the child together, yet patriarchal expectations mean it's so often women who are forced to take the hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:47 PM
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Nothing sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:39 PM
1

It's one thing to opt out altogether, but quite another to make this joint decision and then the guy, influenced by patriarchy, forces his expectations that she do the bulk of the work on the home front, either by explicitly saying so or just not doing his share. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:35 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:27 PM
1

Let's not forget that having children is an optional choice for women who have access to birth control and abortion. Thus women having to spend more time then their partners on domestic duties is largely due to their own personal choice to have children and also due to biology considering only women can be pregnant, give birth and nurse. When women choose to have children they choose these biological consequences and essentially put themselves into this role. Generally it's a joint decision by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:15 PM
1

Do those come with mind reading facilities
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:56 PM
1

You seem to claim to know a lot about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:46 PM
1

Let's say hypothetically it turns out that's not true, would you still behave like an addict or would you reform your ways? Is your addiction dependent on all men being addicted?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:16 PM
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Clearly you're the one who needs it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:15 PM
0

Yeah extrapolating to generalizations from a concededly skewed sample is real "science"-y 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:11 PM
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The plights of the modern woman managing a small apartment full of modern appliances. Their ancestors who walked miles to nearest river or well and came back all the way with a heavy bucket could only dream of such hardships. Were the men sitting on their ass munching Cheetos and getting obese typing at a computer in an air conditioned office and calling it hard labor? Or could it be that things have gotten easier for everyone over time, but more easier for some than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:10 PM
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If the goal of life is happiness It's a bad goal to have, that's all. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:07 PM
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What kind of a man would let such a paltry thing shape his behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:06 PM
1

People eat many times a day, does that mean that "everything" is about eating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:06 PM
1

Less than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:05 PM
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Happiness is very fleeting. The human condition is such that once you get what you want, you want more. Hedonic treadmill and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:59 PM
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What did they say
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:57 PM
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LAsT woRD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:56 PM
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Why the long face
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:54 PM
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Why are you responding Is this white knight act you're putting on compensating for some dark triad shit? Yes LaSt WorD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:53 PM
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I mean, even something far more mild like anti-depressants can take the edge off of horniness if that's what you're getting at. However, throughout history men have sublimated these drives to create profound works of industry, art, science, and so much more. This is an issue most of us are not immune from but I think that having basic needs so easily met creates this spillover where the mind feels everything should be similar. But it's a tale as old as time, and to me it seems far more useful to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:52 PM
1

If they signal to me that they are the type who expect a man to pay, they signal to me that they are not there to build anything. I will pay, but just to hit it and quit it. Ain't no laws against it. Only you can decide if hitting and quitting is worth the damage that may be caused. Maybe my experiences have made me a worse human being but atleast my heart is not a blank check anymore. It's your journey. At some point, you may find that you aspire to a higher endgame beyond making sure you aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:48 PM
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Why even bother saying that? I guess the point speaks for itself 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:43 PM
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Oh sure a guy who would rather entertain chopping his balls off than pay for a date is definitely the proper arbiter for manhood
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:41 PM
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Ok, well then what do you have to say about If you agree that women on Reddit are unusual relative to the general population of women, why would you extrapolate the statements of women on Reddit to be representative of the general population? How can statements made by unusual, non-representative segment be representative of what is normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:40 PM
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So most men then. I agree, and the contrary is what I was arguing against What about the women who save the dudes numbers as "dinner " and "wallet" What about the girl who i chose to not fuck and leave behind and further traumatise, ending up fucking my friend in retaliation and describe the encounter to me in graphic detail just to make me regret my descision. You seem to think that women deserve better behaviour from men. A consideration fir sone inane reason. Short of a physical challenge i d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:39 PM
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Did they worry about male individuality when they decided to grab torches and pitchforks and condemn men for allegedly condoning inappropriate behavior? Yeah imagine being more cautious about being raped or murdered than about paying for a meal 🤪do you people even listen to yourselves Did they consider the individuality of each men when they decided to pester society about how men are not helping with domestic chores and burdening them with “emotional labor” or whatever kind of bullshit labor th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:35 PM
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Only while supplies last :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:30 PM
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Rape and assaults by people you know do happen. That's actually mostly what happens If they are worried about it they could simple but a hibatchi and remain celibate. Same with guys who don't want to pay. So why all the whining like homeless worthless useless fucking trssh beggars about the cost of a meal? I'm a guy Could have fooled me That maybe just maybe chopping you balls off is not as crazy an idea as it would seem at first contemplation. We've got a ReAL mAn right here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:30 PM
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Do you even know what non-sequitur means? If you agree that women on Reddit are unusual relative to the general population of women, why would you extrapolate the statements of women on Reddit to be representative of the general population? How can statements made by unusual, non-representative segment be representative of what is normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:27 PM
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Because when you take out the variable (cohabitation) the stats show women still work less and so you can see how it then falls on them more for housework as the man they have picked out works and outearns her. Did you/they make sure to account for women who have children and aren't cohabiting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:26 PM
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Yeah obviously they shouldn't actively be putting women at risk. It's sad that some men apparently feel they need an education on how to be civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:26 PM
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Maybe for you..guess it would be more convenient to live with if it were universal, but doesn't make it the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:25 PM
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They dont attempt more. Their attempts just get counted because men obv don't report on it. Why? Because men are not treated as subjects but as objects. Is someone forcing them to not report? Is someone treating them as an object or are they seeing themselves as an object? Who is forcing them to see themselves as an object? Look, you mocking men dying just shows you objectify them. Admit it, then correct it. I'm mocking men who whine like little girls about being ForgOttEn. They're obviously all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:24 PM
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These
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:23 PM
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Men who think beyond the immediate impulses of their penis, who strive for a more noble and equal and just world and conduct themselves accordingly, men who don't so much as blink when the check comes knowing full well the disproportionate costs imposed on women prior to arriving at the table, men who--if they indeed held the conviction that there is some injustice in paying, would far rather go without than compromise their alleged "principles" for the possiblity of a crumb of intercourse You k…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:23 PM
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The relative burdens are what's relevant given that it's a situation involving both people. It need not be the case that men have no burdens to assert that women have disproportionately higher ones. It's of course up to men whether to acknowledge and adapt or whine and get left behind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:21 PM
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I was referring to men as a whole. Seems to be a lot of projecting going on "I'm an unthinking monkey so everyone else must also be an unthinking monkey"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:20 PM
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Ah yes, thrice the suicide rates, in divorces even up to ten times the suicide rates, thrice the homeless rates, you can really feel the working towards equality. Women attempt more I have adapted. I don't view men as objects. You should adapt as well. Adapted to what exactly? How? Whining and grievance. MuH DiSpoSaBiLiTy lmfao. Maybe put in some effort to not be disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:16 PM
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“it’s up to the person who made the invitation to pay” is just one of many ways they use to maintain a status quo that benefits them without actually saying it out loud and admitting their own inconsistenc What percent of women say asker pays? Is it the same women subsequently not paying? How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:15 PM
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Seems like it's not the best basis to be extrapolating from, then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:14 PM
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Maybe guys as a whole don't think the way you think
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:14 PM
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I'm a guy Look if you bear that much more risk then why are you out meeting strange men? Meet men through common friends and people who vouch for them. Fancy thinking that friends of friends can't be dangerous. If only that were true. Beyond that , its a date not sex. Men never expect that a date will result in sex? Could've fooled me. Just admit that you are loath to change a dynamic that benifits you.- as a gender. Again, as a guy, I see no reason not to make the world a more just and equitabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:13 PM
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This is down to the womans decisions, like wanting a man who earns more than her and not wanting to work as many hours as a man is willing to do (married men with kids work the most hours out of anybody) How do you know it works out this way because of what the woman decides rather than because of what is forced on her by societal expectations, expectations within the relationship, and the reality that someone has to get the things done?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:11 PM
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like the saying goes men's worst fear is that they'll be humiliated while women's worst fear is that they'll be murdered. Not to mention pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:10 PM
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There's 167 million women in the US alone. The forums are self-selecting in that they draw the kind of people who like to write in complete sentences to anonymous strangers about this topic. Hard to imagine that's in any way representative of the population, especially when you're trying to make inferences about women given that reddit in particular skews so heavily male, meaning the women who post on Reddit are already likely to be unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:09 PM
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I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:07 PM
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Did they ever state that the bad women are somehow few in number? Given the amount of bad men that women have to deal with, it could be inferred that they felt it's understood you have to wade through a lot of incompatible people to find someone who is compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:06 PM
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That's just not true. This is the standard grievance politics where the oppressors think working toward equality is oppression. Times have changed. Adapt or be left behind Your Choice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:05 PM
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Could be that men as a whole have a more nuanced, higher approach to life than you assign to them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:04 PM
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Why as a man would men be objects in my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:03 PM
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I thought you said when all things were added up it comes out equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:03 PM
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I really don't give a shit if you agree with it or not. What you should give a shit about is that your're drawing broad conclusions based on an extremely small and self selecting group's sample of responses. What if your indignation is based on a misunderstanding of actually prevailing attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:02 PM
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Which just underscores the problem . Women are not able to work as many hours because of having to spend more time than their partners on domestic duties and childcare. Asserting that it comes out "equal" and calling it a day ignores that only one of the types of hours is paid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:58 PM
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My opinion is that the majority of women seem to excuse women not paying for dates because it's up to the person who asks the other to go out Unsourced opinion I take it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:56 PM
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feminists are like “lol we will make sure they keep doing that” How'd they do that exactly did they go around holding a gun to the guys' heads? Was it mean anonymous words on he internet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:56 PM
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If the leverage were baseless, men would not pay so much. You don't think men are just mindless fucking seeking machines do you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:54 PM
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The assumption is being made that the askers in the study all uniformly believe in/advocate for asker pays women choice of work It's not much of a choice when they're expected to both work and shoulder the disproportionate share of domestic duties and childcare If you argue equality you need to realize modern dating and discourse about is gaslighting, emotional abuse and economical injustice. But you wont because men are objects in your eyes. I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:47 PM
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You implied it Not all women don't pay. I already posted the stats, you don't have to repeat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:46 PM
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I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:46 PM
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To balance out the above-mentioned points. Of course, not all women feel that way, and even if they did, men can choose not to date, so it's not really "entitlement". They're not going to hold the guy at gunpoint. They just, you know, might pick a different guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:45 PM
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It's not much of a choice when they're expected to both work and shoulder the disproportionate share of domestic duties and childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:44 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:44 PM
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I'm a guy What is the point of having a discussion when you can always say “yes, we do X, but YOU made us do it!” This assumes that the premise is false. If it's true, then it's to help the people who don't understand it to gain a better grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:44 PM
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What would you like to see happen exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:29 PM
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Well, it's a debate sub: let's hear them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:28 PM
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You're stating that it's the same women who say asker pays who also don't pay when they ask. So where are the stats establishing that it is the same women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:27 PM
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Well it's women they're trying to date
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:27 PM
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F
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:24 PM
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Women who say it's up to the person who pays and then ask out a man and don't pay, they are lying. You seem to be assuming that all women are a monolith, that all women who say asker pays refuse to pay when they ask. Not all women say asker pays. Not all women don't pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:22 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:18 PM
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Well I guess this isn't going to go anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:16 PM
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You're saying they're holes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:15 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:14 PM
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A date is a part of a life. Gender issues are understandably going to factor in. They're not just holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:10 PM
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Guys saw playboy and thought "I want a piece of that more than my boring wife", forever shattering the delicately placed facades of base nature. They didn't realize how that would go lol...it's like when guys clamor for an open relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:09 PM
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Sometimes people just aren't compatible with each other. It's not right or wrong. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:03 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:02 PM
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imo no one should feel pressured to have sex to be in a relationship, since everyone has the authority over their body's autonomy. Goes both ways of course. The worst is when people take out their resentment on the other when something that they are looking for in a relationship, whatever that may be, isn't present. Far better, for both parties, to break up at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:01 PM
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the truth is that women don't pay just because they happily take part in sexism when it privileges them. This conception of sexism is very narrow and self-serving when viewed in the broader context of reality rather than a vaccuum of isolation Women face disproportionate risk and bear disproportionate costs in dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:00 PM
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No one forces anyone to date if they feel it is not sufficiently beneficial, but that doesn't change the underlying realities I've described
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:58 PM
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It could also mean taking for granted the many lopsided benefits men recieve, so much in health and wealth from being married, and the statistics show it's women who contribute more to the household, who end up harmed more by divorce, who obviously bear children, who work the second shift after coming home from work, and more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:54 PM
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The pay gap remains, and even as it fades, let's not pretend that dating is a vacuum--it is a prelude to relationships, which often lead to babies, and of course women are the only ones that can get pregnant, not to mention that statistically women are doing more than their fair share in domestic duties and child rearing. Then there is the disproportionate risk that women face when dating itself--like the saying goes men's worst fear is that they'll be humiliated while women's worst fear is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:52 PM
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ASAP as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:53 AM
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50 first dates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:44 PM
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aaand it's gone! The money in your account - it didn't do too well, it's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:29 PM
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40% of women in the U.S. make under $15/hour
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:12 PM
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MLB suspends Dodgers’ Trevor Bauer for two years for violating abuse policy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:29 PM
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What other reason did you offer for why they are accepting this treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:39 PM
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The truth is only 20% of men don’t have to jump through hoops, go through dry spells, accept flakiness, say “ you’re right it’s my fault “ even when it isn’t, sleep on the couch, treat her like she’s the prize etc The same can’t be said for women because 80% of men have to prove themselves to women, court, offer commitment, provision etc If it's about dry spells, more than 20% of men have access to prostitution, which is still available even if it maybe should not be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:36 PM
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Not convinced
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:22 PM
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Kyrsten Sinema Boasts of Charming GOP Colleagues With ‘Cleavage,’ Book Claims It's our values and equality and who we are in a democracy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:58 AM
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Mercantalism Is this the one about family businesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:45 PM
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Oklahoma legislature approves Republican bill banning abortions putting the state on track to be the first in the nation to enact a total abortion ban once the GOP governor signs the measure into law.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:11 PM
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frens Intentional pepe?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:09 PM
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challenging their true oppressor Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing a proposed replacement framework. Replace capitalism with...what, exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:28 PM
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People propagate these problems, not dna. Are these not essentially universal problematic attitudes.. at what point where does the person end and the gene begin?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:25 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jlaZL7CWHY
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:18 PM
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So recently I got asked to propose I should get proposed to... Sounds like you were
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:16 PM
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they were on a brink of a ban so they left quickly to avoid embarrassment. How meta
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:43 AM
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I disagree with the premise that attractive women have it easier than attractive men. I mean you're talking about a small group of people relative to the overall population so you can plausibly craft a few different impressions of the situation I suppose, but if you take a step back and look at it holistically the oppsite seems true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:17 AM
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Not convinced these aren't real examples
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:08 PM
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🏅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:04 PM
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A man of culture I see
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:56 PM
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This is the best sub on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:06 PM
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So that's what gaslighting is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 03:24 PM
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I find infuriating the lack of accountability for their consistently poor choice in men It's a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:28 PM
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You were asking for a description of self pity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:10 PM
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Oh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 06:09 PM
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Women were probably cheating too but they lie and are better at hiding their infidelity, so only the guy gets caught. Women do face a higher social penalty, and so it would stand to reason they would be more discreet out of a desire for self-preservation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:41 PM
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What men must do as men is something I call masculine nature. We do what is in our nature to do, naturally, unforced, and willingly. This is refuted by generations of rituals for entry into manhood. Of course, those are all gone now, yet the need remains. I don't comprehend what self pity actually is. I mean I know the dictionary definition but it just doesn't make any sense to me. I believe that "self pity" is just some insult people throw at someone to illegitimatize their otherwise justified …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:28 PM
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But yes I think it's more a wipping inside of LTRs or marriages that makes man suddenly become "driven" at least more into the direction of monetization. Generally, with exceptions of course, you have to lay a foundation that starts earlier on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:51 PM
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When are we most alive than when we are in a rage? Either as predators or prey, whether employed in the preservation of our own life or in the pursuit of it's sustenance there is no other point in time when we can truly be more alive. This bottomless rage is the spirit of freedom clawing, biting, and hacking at the cage of decay it finds itself surrounded with. Proportionate to the situation, not a constant hum of rage and self pity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:50 PM
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Poetry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:44 PM
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It is a ritual of generations, except this time the message is drowned by anger and self pity. It is what men must do as men. The details of it can vary, sure, as to what it entails, but to reject it altogether, well--for one thing, how can someone claim to reject today's prevailing narrative while simultaneously adopting it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:28 PM
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Men don't seem to be taking very well to this freedom you allege, or is bottomless rage just kind of part and parcel of contentment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:11 PM
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Telling a man to man up is being anything but a man - makes the whole thing ironic and absurd. How do you figure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:05 PM
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They didn't do anything to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:04 PM
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Mortality is no joke Death and taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:45 PM
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Their life will be a lot worse. We should all hope for a more humane society that sees the vulnerable and innocent as more than "well, they won't die". Having that perspective will ultimately harm us all when they grow into adulthood having lived in such a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:44 PM
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Ok, but this isn't about them, it's about an innocent child
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:41 PM
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false advertising Did you just learn about aging today
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:36 PM
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What's the women on this subreddit's definition of need? I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:35 PM
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I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:34 PM
0

Rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:33 PM
1

So why perpetuate the cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:17 AM
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I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:05 AM
0

Then the child is being punished, the child didn't do anything wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:00 AM
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If people always thought that way we'd still be living in mud huts flinging shit at each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:44 AM
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Who said anything about a law forcing men to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:22 AM
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It'll make the world a better place if people do it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:22 AM
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Well, won't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:21 AM
1

If so, how so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:21 AM
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the name I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:25 PM
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Your scenario assumes that a father figure can even guaranteed replace the actual father effectively. He can if he strives to In this scenario, if the child is harmed by any type of upbringing for any of these reasons we've discussed the responsibility is on the mother who decided to have that child. It doesn't get simpler than this. If there is harm done to that child, the person who has done the harm is the mother because she has so many choices. Men do not have half of those choices. Assignin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:44 PM
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The second is something you can't force any man to do -- lest you damage the child even more. Thus, what do you expect said "man" to do? Fake it? Right built into this is that the guy should work to be doing it genuinely. It's not easy, but it's worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:40 PM
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Well that's exactly the perspective that is to be avoided if we want a better, more humane world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:31 PM
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Allocating fault and responsibility this way doesn't fix the problem either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:30 PM
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why can’t you bring another 9 of them? If you didn’t you are such a horrible person… So dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:29 PM
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Blaming the mother won't save the child
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:28 PM
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Internal sense of pride and accomplishment either exists or don't Well that's the rub isn't it, it's internal, has to come from within. Seems a mindset that is worth striving for
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:24 PM
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I'm a guy. Even assuming as true that the woman has the responsibilities you describe, the child is still harmed by the absence of a father figure. No one is preventing the man from playing that part even if he's not required to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:20 PM
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And if it doesn't work, then what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:07 PM
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Obvious the men who don't take on the burden will come out ahead of the males who do. Depends how your measure come out ahead though. Yes, there's effort, but what about the reward
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:54 PM
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Manning up is for the guy who created the child. And what if he doesn't... Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:43 PM
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That's not gonna make the world a better place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:41 PM
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Obligation is one thing but he can try to see above their own interests and pain like the great men of past and present have done, seek therapy, etc. It's a lot of work, but the rewards are immeasurable, both at the micro and macro scale
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:34 PM
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They can try to see above their own interests and pain like the great men of past and present have done, seek therapy, etc. It's a lot of work, but the rewards are immeasurable, both at the micro and macro scale
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:33 PM
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Well it stands to reason that an ineffective justice system wouldn't exclusively fuck up in one direction. Nevertheless, just 44% of custodial parents recieve the full amount of child support. Only 69% received any payments whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:32 PM
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How many women of any kind even do such things in the first place. Far, far fewer than men, that's for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:28 PM
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How many such 1 offs has two-x spawned
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:26 PM
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We can move past such
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:26 PM
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Yeah I saw that thread, and I'll say at least your proposal is doing something, yet he bonded with those kids for three years, and now they're just nothing to him? He's free to do that, of course. But it's not the best the human spirit is capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:26 PM
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None of these will replace the loss of having an involved father in the child's life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:18 PM
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Yet that's not the one we live in. Massive amounts of child support go uncollected, yet the child is no less hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:11 PM
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When it spawns violent rampages in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:06 PM
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Capitol carnival, part 2
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:51 PM
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He can't control what the other people do. He can only control what he does. And the child, who is blameless, will be better off with an involved father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:51 PM
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I reckon he might change his mind
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:38 PM
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Support is just money. The child needs an involved father
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:38 PM
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If the biological father doesn't become involved, that still leaves the child without a father. Why not be better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:33 PM
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Do you feel the same about men and child support, that they should've just kept it in their pants
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:29 PM
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Abortion is a painful and emotionally fraught decision
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:27 PM
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Obviously he shouldn't do that. I'm not saying men should begrudgingly do this; if they do it at all, it should be lovingly and with open arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 PM
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Well, food has come, in many places
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:25 PM
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We already live in that society, yet it persists nevertheless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:25 PM
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It may be that the genetic component gets triggered in ways that are not avoidable the way societies are currently structured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:21 PM
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She can go after the biological father. What if he doesn't want to be involved? I can't and am not forcing anyone to do anything. It's not like my saying the words will magically involuntarily forced men to do what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:20 PM
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It being the kid's mom's doesn't feed or nurture the children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:17 PM
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Inherent is that they don't really care if someone else will pick up the tab or not as they aren't thinking that far ahead The end result even when everything goes with your outline is that men who abandon their biological children will outcompete males who take on the burden of raising other men's children across the board. Outcompete in what sense, more children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:16 PM
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But it's too late for all that. The child is born. Now what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:14 PM
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An orphanage is a pretty unfortunate place to end up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:13 PM
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The kid already has a biological dad in this case, why shouldn’t him take the responsibility? And what if he doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:08 PM
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Shaming won't feed or nurture an innocent child
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:08 PM
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There are biological differences, and so we should be compassionate in trying to alleviate the disproportionate burden that would otherwise result from those differences. It only seems contradictory because you're coming at it from a place of grievance and gotchas rather than "how do we make this place better"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:07 PM
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Not every society adopts everything that is most advantageous, yet that doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't. It doesn't mean it won't eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:06 PM
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Yet he can choose to transcend these base, petty frameworks of "obligation", instead seeing the reality that he can make all the difference in the world for the life of an innocent child
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:05 PM
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Well certainly it would be encouraged that he work through those issues to not resent the child, who did not choose to be born of infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:04 PM
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The gravely disproportionate consequences that women face for the same exact offense, cheating. This disproportionate reality is due to biology, and as you say, we can aspire to be better and acknowledge that and make a more humane and civilized society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:04 PM
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Even the monsters of history were not born monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:03 PM
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The point you seem to be making is "tough shit", when there is an opportunity to be more humane and civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:02 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:02 PM
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Lol her highness will tolerate it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:02 PM
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It's not easy, but they should strive to. Being better is not easy. But it's something to aspire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:01 PM
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Men aren't the ones carrying children. Is that on the table now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:01 PM
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I figured that eventually there would be a push for infidelity to become normalized in society Infidelity is a reality for both genders whether or not normalized. What advantages are there to doing as you think should be done? Your time is limited though You will see within 50 years See what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:00 PM
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That's certainly an underpinning of my post, that there are biological differences. But that leaves the question of what do we as a society choose to do about those differences. Too many people seem content to conclude "tough titties" when convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:59 PM
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It's not like the child chose to be born of cheating. The child is blameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:38 PM
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Is there not some significance to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:38 PM
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That is a reality of biology, yet we as a society are arriving to remedy the inequalities imposed by biology, which is for the good. This is quite an important one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:38 PM
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You sure do sound like you care
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:37 PM
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Not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:36 PM
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Why not strive to make our society a better one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:36 PM
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Yet that's water under the bridge by the time a child is born
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:36 PM
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An innocent child, and not a slave. No one is forcing anyone to be better, but nevertheless it's a worthwhile objective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:36 PM
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We as a society can choose to not see this as a humiliation. It isn't easy, but it's a change worthwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:35 PM
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a gun is innocent too. it can be used for sport. a knife is innocent too. Well for one thing, a child is a human
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:35 PM
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Even assuming that's true, if that's what they want, then that's what they want. Who are you to tell them otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:28 PM
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mere
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:27 PM
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Just because it's hard doesn't mean it isn't worth trying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:26 PM
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Yet people do make mistakes. And then the question becomes, shouldn't we as human beings strive to minimize the collateral damage, particularly toward the most innocent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:26 PM
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So then you have your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:25 PM
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We are not mere slaves to biology
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:24 PM
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Yet with all those "outs" you describe, sometimes a child nevertheless is born, and whatever mistakes are alleged that were made by the mother, that doesn't unbirth the child, who now needs a mother and a father to thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:24 PM
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The Mosuo don't rape and kill each other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:21 PM
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I'm not saying that a man who doesn't do this is necessarily "bad". But that's such a meager aspiration. Why not strive to be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:21 PM
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people using "innocence" are most times only pushing their agenda. Yet even if true, what's more innocent than a child? That people used to call children born out of wedlock bastards doesn't establish that they deserved it. Children used to be forced to work in factories. Civilization strives to become more civilized over time, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:20 PM
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And whether your shaming or theirs will prevail, well, why don't you find out? Make a post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:19 PM
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Cheating = breaking the agreement to only have sex within the pairing. So how could it be any different which gender does it? It speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:19 PM
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Why punish an innocent child for her mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:18 PM
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The men for whom my heart breaks is someone who’s been tricked but still love the child but can’t help but see them as constant reminders of their partner’s cheating. You have to opposite emotions and probably need a lot of therapy to process that. Life is full of disappointments, yet at the end of the day we all must choose. Why not choose to be fueled by the love for the child? Therapy indeed, that's a way they can move past what standa in the way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:18 PM
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Yet why allow an innocent to suffer if it can be avoided by making the right choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:16 PM
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why should the child be innocent? it is used. I'm not sure I follow. How does the child being used negate its innocence. If anything, it underscores it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:14 PM
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But the people commenting here are not hermits. They're still a part of that society. And some of them are going to react accordingly. You can't stop them from doing so any more they can stop you from saying the thing above that you said you should say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:13 PM
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It's only a raw deal if he sees it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:13 PM
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Yet men also cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:12 PM
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Second, I'm not on the scene anymore To the detriment of an innocent child
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:11 PM
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Should be easy to refute then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:11 PM
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Apparently wantonly abandoning innocent children does? Maybe there needs to be a reassessment of what it means in the first place to be a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:10 PM
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That's the thing is it's not equal opportunity. Society is a constant struggle between our base natures and trying to keep it honest in furtherance of a greater good, yet when men fall short they can just wash their hands of the issue while women face a coterie of bad options. It is not easy to rise above but if we're going to work towards a better society, of course it won't be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:09 PM
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You're (I mean not you specifically, the guy) is on the scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:07 PM
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First of all, I wasn't going to vote at all until you said that, and then I downvoted you; woman up. I'm a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:06 PM
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Well sure, kid's gotta eat, but the hope is that it's not limited to making a paltry ordered payment but being fully involved as a father. Why deprive an innocent child of that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:05 PM
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Yet there is not an innocent child being abandoned in that path
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:05 PM
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🎶we're gonna need a montage🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:04 PM
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Well, let's say he doesn't. There's still an innocent child who needs a father in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:03 PM
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This is true, and all the more reason to endeavor not to perpetuate the cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:02 PM
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Child support is such a paltry substitute compared to the love of a father
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:01 PM
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Yet men also cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:01 PM
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There's nothing inevitable about men refusing to help out with children they didn't sire. Many cultures do not have this bias. It's not set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:00 PM
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It's "on" an innocent child
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:59 PM
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because all that needs to be done to avoid it is not act like a whore. Men also cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:59 PM
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Seems unwise for a society to pick the poison that is most damaging to innocent children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:58 PM
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You could do your small part to bring about real, meaningful equality to the world, and better an innocent child's life to boot. Got anything better going on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:54 PM
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I was shocked it was available
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:52 PM
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Wondering why under automod that seems to be a relevant point worthy of debate. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:52 PM
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