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They do prefer tall men but it's not as important, they've already got the tall genes so there's already a strong chance of their kids being tall (or at least average) regardless of who the dad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:15 PM
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What frustrates me are the people who clearly hate online dating, aren't successful with it, complain endlessly about it - but refuse to try anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 09:39 PM
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Chores are more than 1 hour a day even if you have no kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 05:06 AM
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> maybe just try to look crappy when you are young. This will weed out the guys looking for arm candy trophy wives. ... This is actually what most people do (accidentally) and it works, lol. The problem with waiting is that the dating pool shrinks every year, and those left over generally aren't the pick of the litter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 05:11 AM
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> The cure for MGTOW is to talk to a woman. Nah, everything is shit-colored when you view the world through shit-tinted glasses. Even if they managed to snag a good woman they'd never trust her or be able to appreciate or really even notice any of her good qualities. Do you know how many men out there are still punishing their girlfriends because their mommy was mean to them 30 years ago? They're better off alone. They'd never be happy with a woman, and they'll make her miserable, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:48 PM
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The book "What to Expect When You're Expecting" breaks down average pregnancy weight gain: 7.5 lb of baby 1.5 lb of placenta 2 lb of amniotic fluid 2 lb of uterine enlargement 2 lb of breast tissue 4 lb of blood 4 lb of water weight 7 lb of fat = 30 lb total
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:55 PM
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This was my experience. I don't know who all these men are that can't wait, but I've never dated any.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:25 PM
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The weight gain isn't even about cravings or being hungry. It's that when you don't eat, the vomiting starts. That's why it's "morning sickness," symptoms are worst when you wake up b/c you haven't eaten in a while. Pregnancy hormones force you to eat by making you sick when you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:09 PM
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They're the blind leading the blind. I don't even care about the 'amoral' aspect but some of the advice is just bad. They whine about how they can't find a "good man" but then you realize they've only been looking on Tinder, I've been downvoted for telling people to go out and meet men in real life. It's like they're not willing to put in any actual effort to get what they're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:48 PM
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I can't speak for other women but I simply don't desire sex for it's own sake except maybe during the 2 days a month when I'm ovulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:50 AM
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Yeah I've only seen it happen a few times, but the guys weren't rich and the women weren't attractive, in fact they were usually unattractive enough to be ignored by men their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:35 PM
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She specified desperate guys. "Guys might date an ugly girl if they're desperate". It's true, desperate guys will date women they don't even like, women who annoy them. So of course they don't treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 05:34 AM
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I'm not one of those women, but I'm friends with one. She's in her 50's and has never gone on a date, or even been asked. She's had health problems her entire life, starting in childhood. Her illnesses, and the side-effects of treatment led to her becoming both overweight and generally unattractive, with little hope of fixing those things. This was at a time when obesity was rare and bullying was a fact of life. In school, the only attention she got from boys was bullying. Men didn't approach he…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 12:30 AM
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It's a bit disingenuous. Nerds who can't get Stacy will ask you out, then try to turn you into Stacy. They've got low standards in the sense they'll deign to go out with you, but they won't accept you or treat you well. Always taking little digs at your appearance, holding you to a higher standard than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:36 PM
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> 40 inch gut Amazing, do they buy their clothing in maternity stores?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:10 PM
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Most fit men end up with fit women, the problem is that lots of thin guys are socially awkward or facially ugly. And awkward men outnumber awkward women - by a lot - so his 'match' may as well not exist. So yeah, he may have to settle in other areas, like weight or sanity. The thin Becky can do better, and why shouldn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 05:59 PM
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I mean it's like cooking, it can be as hard or as easy as you want, depending on how lazy or ambitious you are. For someone who takes pride in their work, the slacker route does not even register as an option, like it would never occur to a chef to serve Kraft Mac-n-cheese to dinner party guests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 12:26 AM
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You know this explains a lot. Like why they think women aren't attracted to betas. They probably think they represent the average Joe, but they're well below average, even for betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 09:18 PM
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As someone dealing with long-term illness: depends on how sick you're feeling. When you've got to concentrate on not puking or shitting yourself, it's hard to do much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:41 PM
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> There's a difference between having sex with your fiance and then getting married and having an n-count in the double and triple digits, which is completely normalized today. But we're not talking about people with n-counts in the double and triple digits. We're talking about tradcons having sex with their boyfriend after dating for 2 years. People who get married in their early 20's with n-counts of 2 or 3. You're the one moving the goalposts from "tradcons don't have sex" to "tradcons don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 11:56 PM
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> The people who were doing this (both males and females) were not considered good traditional people. That was something to avoid or repent from, not accept as an inevitable part of life. It's both. It's always been both. Sex (and the people who did it) were always considered bad and evil but western Christians have always done it (and felt guilty afterwards). The earliest available data comes from Americans born in the 1940's and shows our grandparents mostly lost their virginity in their teen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 06:32 PM
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Women "take advantage of the benefits of being women" by marrying high value men. Not by sleeping around. Most women don't see that as a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:32 AM
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Girls from tradcon families, not necessarily tradcon themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 11:22 PM
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Men aren't the only ones told looks don't matter, girls are taught its Bad and Wrong and Shallow to judge a man based on looks, and we should always "give him a chance" because he's "such a nice guy". Tradcon parents want you to marry the betas, betas are the foundation of tradcon society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 06:30 PM
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The real wall is having kids. Women of any age have a much better chance of finding a good husband if they're child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 05:16 AM
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They're not supposed to be pretty, it's called bumping uglies for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:58 AM
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You don't have to get new hobbies, just talk about *their* interests. My husband couldn't care less about sports, but guess what he talks about with his boomer coworkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:42 PM
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Literally just pick a good husband, then you don't have to deal with any of this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:14 AM
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Some guys literally don't care, they're just scrawny and want a woman that weighs less than them. They're much more forgiving with short girls because the number on the scale is lower and they're smaller in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:39 PM
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People who know they look good for their age are usually proud to tell it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:36 AM
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Half of women are married by 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 03:45 AM
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My point is: There's nothing wrong with being picky. Women should be picky. But at least be picky about things that matter. I don't have much sympathy for the woman that can't find a "good man" but rejects anyone without a piece of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 10:48 PM
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Who cares about college? It doesn't dictate a man's intelligence or earning potential. I have no trouble admitting my sky-high standards, but education isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 10:35 PM
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Not to mention all the women who go out with their boyfriends and husbands, they're getting dick but it's the same dick every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 11:44 PM
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> My parents' relationship is why I laugh and laugh when I see terps talk about how masculine men require feminine women. My mother is an extremely feminine woman, and her marriage to my extremely masculine father was as volatile as it was because of their polarized personalities. Masculine men terrify feminine women. Feminine women annoy the shit out of masculine men. You know I've always said tradcon values are masculine values, and that in tradcon societies, both the men and women tend to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 09:19 PM
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They want to marry the virgin unicorn but end up having to permaspin plates and not commit to them because "where are all da good ladies?" I mean... Those are the women they ghosted because they wouldn't have sex by the third date. By the time the player is ready to settle down, those women are already married to men they met in college. Dating is musical chairs, you wait too long and the "good ones" are taken. Do they not see how they're no different from the woman who spends her youth fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:52 PM
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TRP's whole thing is trying to dupe women into serving male imperatives and then they're... Upset about those women getting duped into serving male imperatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:38 PM
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Getting pumped-n-dumped isn't taking full advantage, for most women it's an undesirable situation, they want the guy to commit and he won't. It's a poor strategy for female "nice guys" who think they can buy love with sex. Taking full advantage means no casual sex (at least not for free), no perma-girlfriend, no one-sided relationships, only marriage to whatever man benefits you the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:26 PM
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I've heard men here saying a woman intelligence/personality/talents/whatever else aren't important, or they're at least far less important than a woman's looks and youth. They're not bemoaning the lack of women with good personalities, they're literally saying personality doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:04 PM
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I swear the guys here don't realize the implications of half the shit they say. Like when you say "All women have to offer is their looks and youth." Then the logical conclusion for women is "Well I'd better take full advantage of those things while I've still got them."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:20 PM
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"Average" doesn't and shouldn't mean "average in every possible metric". Most "average" people are above-average in some areas and below-average in others, and the areas where they're above-average make them attractive to people who value those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 08:05 PM
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Fits with my experience, I've said here before the 'leaders of men' are more likely to be willing slaves to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 07:07 PM
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Without knowing a man's personality, their bodies, faces, and photos are sexually neutral. They can be attractive like a painting, but I don't want to fuck the painting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:45 AM
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Yeah but they'll mostly be wasting their time, that only happens when the stars align, once or twice in a woman's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 06:06 AM
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Doesn't matter what the guys do, they'll still be competing over the minority of women who actually have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:53 AM
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Nah, I'm not young anymore and I've never been beautiful. Young women have all the power, but they don't know how to use it. Older women have less power, but make better use of what they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:53 AM
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I mean to me demisexual is just average female sexuality. Most women don't have one night stands, or they only try it once or twice and decide it's not fun. Don't need a special term for being average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:11 AM
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> they don’t want these women and resent that they can’t do much better than these women. See also: their hatred of fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:34 AM
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Most people already do that, though. Western society is the way it is because of men doing what they wanted. Women have rights because most men wanted their daughters, moms, and sisters to have rights, they wanted women to be protected from other men, and they wanted it so much they were willing to give up their own right to control and exploit other women. Men are the reason patriarchy is unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:52 PM
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Marry a hippie chick and live in a yurt making youtube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:30 PM
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What hoops, what rationalization? We do it because we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:58 PM
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Just make sure you live in a community property state, he might trade up but at least you'll get a decent ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 08:49 PM
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All the good ones are already married by 30, if you go older you'll just be dating other women's rejects. If you're aiming for UMC, there's plenty of dudes that are already moderately successful right out of college. If you're aiming for super rich, yeah you either have to take a risk, or date older divorced men who probably have other things wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 08:38 PM
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I didn't vet when I was younger because I thought I had to take what I could get. Vetting came naturally when I started taking more initiative and this afforded me more & better options. For me the most important criteria is nexting all the guys that aren't that into you. When a guy likes you, it's obvious. When a guy doesn't like you, you'll be confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 08:40 PM
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What advice did your elders give you about finding a husband? My mom is a religious prude and can't be trusted, she gave me advice like "blow jobs are only for prostitutes, never give a man a blow job or he'll think you're a slut and won't marry you." Yet I know she wasn't so uptight in her youth, when she met my dad. My spinster aunts said "all the good ones will be taken by 30" and I've found that to be mostly true. But that was basically the extent of their advice, being spinsters and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:21 AM
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Scarcity isn't a mentality, it's a reality and they know it, you said it yourself, "It’s raining men (good and bad, mostly bad". Shitty men are abundant, good men are scarce and become more scarce with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:16 AM
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That's fine, but they should realize - they might not be thinking about their futures yet, but other women are. And those women are gonna start snapping up the good men, faster than you think. Many of my male friends were even groomed by older women who'd realized all the good men in their age group were taken, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 12:47 AM
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Based on their own comments it seems like they have trouble attracting good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 06:42 PM
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How about just meeting men, then? Let's be real, you can't expect to meet a high value man in the usual places (bars, OLD).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 06:21 PM
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Not enough content about how to actually find and marry a high value man. Maybe they don't know how.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:29 PM
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Why do you care so much about their career aspirations? Are you also disappointed in men, since most of them have no particular career ambition, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 02:09 AM
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But that is what looks match means. It's not, though, because gender dimorphism. A square-jawed man is attractive, his square-jawed sister is unattractive. Attractive brothers often have ugly sisters, and attractive sisters often have ugly brothers. The same genes that look good on men often look ugly on women, and vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:24 PM
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But why would you shame a woman for having a boyfriend who's rich, or handsome, or whatever? Clearly he likes her back; he IS her "league" if that's the case. They don't understand leagues. They think same league = the same in every way. They think your looks match is someone who looks like a gender swapped version of you. They think dating is a market, but they don't understand markets. Supply and demand. Your league is whoever's buying what you're selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:03 PM
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When women marry men for their potential, they spend their marriages trying to change their husbands into the men they hoped he'd become. They're miserable, and they also make their husbands miserable. You have to love a man as-is, or it's not a good deal for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:48 PM
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Shame us all you want, we'll be drying our tears with our husbands' money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:54 PM
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Compromise. Have sex more than you want, but less than he wants. Pretend you're into it. If that's not good enough, there's plenty of promiscuous women he could've married instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:47 PM
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RP thinks it's about men's and women's differences but is actually about their similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:52 AM
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Adults are still free to take risks, there's nothing stopping you from quitting your 9-5, or trying extreme sports, or doing drugs, or marrying someone you met last week. Even if you make stuff illegal, prison is just another risk, you can choose to take it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:47 PM
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Just treat them like a spoiled lapdog. Use authoritative language, make all the decisions, but also complement their good behavior and fawn over how cute they are. You don't have to do it all the time (and shouldn't - too much work), but once in a while say "It's my turn to plan the date" and then really take the lead - you pick him up, you drive, you pay the bill when he's in the bathroom. Put him in your frame, like if you're really good at mountain biking, then take him mountain biking and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 10:46 PM
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It's true though, many men will go CRAZY for you when you flip the gender roles. I honestly think it's a good dating strategy for nontraditional women. I don't mind treating men like my pretty princesses sometimes - but of course, we're talking about cute men with plenty to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 06:30 PM
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Being followed by 4 men in a car yelling at me to get in the car. Being told I'm asking to get raped for wearing a mini-skirt. Having an older male family member joke about how he'd like to rape and molest me, he did this in front of my whole family and no one said anything (I eventually told him to STFU). Guy at work making fun of female coworkers' bodies, comparing boob and butt sizes. He always did this behind people's backs, but every woman heard him talking about other women. Makes you wond…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 06:13 PM
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The easier something seems, the more competition you'll have. The more competition you have, the smaller your chances of making any real money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 10:30 PM
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I don't get it, either. Life is hard enough already. Why would anyone want to struggle all day at work and then come home and be challenged at home? I also don't get when people say they want a partner that "pushes me to be better." I'm already hard enough on myself, I don't need it from someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 11:30 PM
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It really turns me off when men are just like their dads, and most are. I can't help looking at their dads and thinking "I'm going to be married to THAT in 20 years? I'm going to have to fuck THAT?" No joke, I've dumped guys over it. It's more about personality than looks, too. They're just so... Dad-like. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:44 PM
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It's a valid strategy for anyone who doesn't care about love. The reason they're OK with it is because they DGAF about the man they're with. As long as he can support everyone, they're happy to have more women around, that's less time they have to spend with the guy and less duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 06:46 PM
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This is not a good match for extro normie girls. I'm far from the extro normie, but many STEM guys are boring, even to me (INTP woman happily married to INTJ nerd). Many men only seem interested in a few narrow subjects, beyond that they have no intellectual curiosity, and can't contribute much to conversation. I couldn't be limited to talking about their 2 hobbies forever, shit gets old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 09:00 AM
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Misogyny exists across all genders and all points on the political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 04:43 AM
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Women act like men because masculine women are rewarded with money and respect. For women to be feminine, the rewards for being feminine must exceed the rewards for being masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 02:27 AM
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I've met a few older guys I've liked, but I never considered them as real prospects, I'm just too pragmatic for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:25 AM
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I keep telling him we have to start going to concerts before all our favorite bands break up or die. Maybe we're old but they're even older, they're not gonna be around forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 08:12 PM
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My husband in his early 30's has already started using "I'm too old" as an excuse not to do things. "You want to go to a concert that's 2 hours away and starts at 8PM? I'm too old for that."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:48 PM
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There's nothing inherently abusive about an age-gap relationship, I don't think anyone really says that. It's just that in practice, most of them are. Older woman/younger man relationships are no different. Even when they're not abusive, the older person is usually weird and the younger person usually surpasses them in maturity, then dumps the older person. Patterns exist, what's wrong with pointing them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 12:38 PM
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OP is referring specifically to women over 35 who are single and looking. Ok, but older women who discourage young women from dating older men usually aren't "single and looking," they're usually the young woman's mom or aunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 12:08 PM
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stereotyping men (as sexually violent) How do feminists stereotype men as sexually violent? Because that's not how I see it. "Rape culture" doesn't mean "all men are rapists," it's the phenomenon of normal, non-rapist men and women enabling, excusing and covering up for rapists, usually because the rapist is someone they love and respect. It's true feminists focus on the negatives, but the goal is minimizing sexual violence, and how can you achieve that without talking about sexual violence? Giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 12:01 PM
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spinning the most positive and non-rapey conceptions of men: so that men are constructed into being such They already do this. "Real men respect women, real men don't rape, real men don't buy girls.." Is that the sort of thing you were thinking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:53 AM
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Women don't have to turn young women against men - men do that. Everyone knows young women don't listen to anything older women (or older people in general) have to say. They have to learn based on their own life experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 09:53 AM
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I'm always renting power tools for home improvement projects and the guy at the hardware store is always telling me I'll need "someone" to help. If I ask a question, instead of answering he'll be like "See? You can't do it by yourself". When I return the tools he always thoroughly inspects them for damage (which I get is part of his job) but then acts surprised when I haven't broken anything. He also complains a lot about "stupid" customers who just so happen to all be women. I never understood …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 08:34 AM
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I can't even tell how old people are, there's so much variance. I'm 30 and some of my peers look old gross and middle-aged while others look like they could still be in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 10:43 PM
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Right? How is MMA, hiking, and water sports "boring"? All those sound cool to me, but I guess one person's "boring" is another person's "fun." I don't even care if a guy has boring hobbies, I've got my own hobbies. If he can join me and provide good company, that's enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 05:50 AM
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There's certainly a horns effect for people that are downright ugly. But plenty of chubby, nerdy, or average-looking guys still have charisma, and it shows in who they're sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 02:11 AM
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Because they already feel comfortable with those men. Charisma is the ability to induce comfort and trust, better & faster than most people can. Size doesn't really matter, the skinny nerd can still beat you up unless you're an athlete or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:08 PM
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Technically I never said nerds are as likely to use "women," I said they're as likely to use "you", which assumes you're willing to date the nerd to begin with. Obviously if you only date Chads you're never gonna get used by a nerd, and if you only date nerds (like me) you're never gonna get used by a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:47 PM
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Most nerds I know are actually relationship oriented Okay, define "relationship oriented". The whole point of my post is that just because a man pushes for a relationship, it doesn't mean he actually cares about you. He may just want a live-in bang-maid, or he may want kids and a white picket fence. He may want someone to fill the role of "wife," but that doesn't mean he cares about YOU. Most men, even Chads start wanting to settle down above a certain age. and are in no position to use women. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 08:07 PM
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this implies that nerds are able to get as much women of the same quality as hot guys You only need to get 1 woman in order to use her, and she doesn't have to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 07:41 PM
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You don't need to be hot, but if you're not hot you need charisma. Some people have neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:44 PM
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Yes women love them, that's the point. They use women's love as a means of getting sex, since they can't have easy casual sex like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:33 PM
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Hot charismatic men can say "I only want sex" and still get it. Unattractive charmless men aren't going to have much luck with that tactic, so they usually pretend to be loyal Nice Guys who want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:21 PM
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men who actually want relationships... men they’re fucking don’t want to get into a relationship These are the same men. Men will fake entire relationships and sometimes marry women they don't even like, just to avoid loneliness and keep the sex on tap. They want relationships, but not for the right reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 05:29 PM
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Dudes think they should be pulling 5's and 6's just because they're young and thin, but male attractiveness is more than just looks. A guy that looks like a 5, but he's funny and charismatic, total life-of-the-party type becomes functionally a 6. A guy that looks like a 5, with decent normie social skills is well... A 5. A guy that looks like a 5, but he's neurotic and socially awkward is actually a 4. That puts him in the same league as fat girls, even if he's not. Also IDK where people got the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:25 AM
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Husbands also tend to love it when their wives brag about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 12:35 AM
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Realistically the best most people can get is a 5 or 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 05:50 PM
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But most people are average-looking and get together with other average-looking people, they might find their partners hot but realistically they're nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 05:28 PM
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Then he'll pester her about it forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 08:58 PM
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I never thought about this even in childhood, I just wanted to live alone in the woods with various animals like a hag witch. As an adult, I had the opposite problem of "WAATGM?": Too many "good men" and not enough time to date all of them, since I only dated one at a time. Men were either "good enough" or "not" and there was never any shortage of men in the "good enough" category. Of course, today I consider my husband much more than "good enough", but that's not because he's the "man of my dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 06:16 PM
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Yeah I've tried doing yoga in baggier clothes, it just doesn't work with inversions. Your shirt will fall down over your head, the cuffs of your pants will bag around your knees, you're constantly having to adjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:54 PM
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Lots of guys don't even bother with shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:49 PM
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Honest like "not lying" or honest like "telling people everything"? Sometimes it's better for everyone to keep your fucking mouth shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 01:51 AM
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People told me things like this in the early 00's, not about playing sports but about being too good at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 10:54 PM
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Then it's like I said. Would you rather risk never finding someone, or guarantee you'll only find the wrong people? It's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:38 PM
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It's the version of you that YOU want to be. The version that would make you proud even if it didn't help you find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 08:57 PM
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Nothing about that means you can't self-improve, it just means it has to be authentic. If it's inauthentic it won't be sustainable, you'll fall back into old ways and they'll be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 08:17 PM
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You'll never find someone who appreciates your true self by pretending to be someone else. They'll always be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 07:44 PM
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When you're speaking in absolutes, the distribution doesn't matter. You only need 1 albino raven on the planet for "all ravens are black" to be false. Don't speak in absolutes unless you want to make it really easy for people to debunk your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 07:33 AM
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Saying "women in general like tall men", or "men prefer younger women" does not mean YOU personally as a man or woman prefers that. Ok but on PPD I often see people literally saying "ALL women" and "ALL men", and then you only need 1 counterexample for the statement to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:16 AM
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The problem is people aren't socializing, or feel like they can't socialize for various reasons, like being new in town and not knowing anyone. Everyone I've dated, I met at school or they were my friends, or friends of friends. I never dated coworkers but I would've. I can understand not wanting to mix work with dating, but at the time I hated every job I'd ever had, and if we broke up I would've just found a new one lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:34 AM
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Isn't that one of the 48 laws of power? "Never do for yourself what others can do for you?" If it's not, it should be. How do you think they built those companies in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:22 PM
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Yeah that's what Chads do, not necessarily the exhibitionism though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 12:14 AM
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Lots of men, especially young college-aged men are concerned about what their friends think. And lots of guys have the type of friends that will make fun of them for being a chubby chaser or a milf chaser.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 12:02 AM
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Chads are usually nice to women because women have always been nice to them. They're more willing to socialize with fat women & old women because they know their status won't be questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 06:24 PM
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Why can't they just act like normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:12 AM
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Same, some people think my husband's an asshole but in nearly 10 years he's never so much as raised his voice to me. Hell, I'm sure my exes think I'm a bitch. I bickered all the time with some of them, but I can count the # of arguments with my husband on 1 hand. Literally all you have to do is treat me with respect and you have nothing to worry about. We don't take shit, but since neither of us are flinging shit at each other, it's not a problem lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 07:48 PM
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What makes you think they're settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:19 PM
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They can, if he's charming many women will date him regardless of his looks. And if he's not handsome OR charming - why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:42 AM
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Yep... Dating down won't make a man appreciate you more, it'll just make him think he can do even better next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:52 AM
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So, approaching a guy is different from asking a guy out. I'm into introverted guys and I've always had to talk to them first and send a lot of IOI's first, then maybe they'd ask me out, but sometimes I had to do that, too. It's always been like that, shy guys have always been reticent to pursue women, they just have an excuse now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 11:03 PM
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"Hoe" and "sleazy" is shaming language. I don't think anybody would've cared if he'd said he doesn't want to date a "promiscuous woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 09:29 AM
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Just say you want men to treat everyone like shit. That's not what women want though. Women want men who will do whatever is in the woman's best interest. Sometimes it's in your best interest to be nice and respectful. Sometimes you're better off being loud and aggressive. Sometimes it means being prosocial, sometimes it means being self-interested. Sometimes it means helping people. Sometimes it means hurting people. Mostly it means being able to adapt to a variety of different people and situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:36 AM
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even if you tell them directly they’ll usually ignore it That was my experience with previous boyfriends, "It's not a problem for me, so it's not a problem."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:28 AM
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Lol, I've often wanted to do that but I've never had the guts. Can't get the bartender's attention? Just take someone's drink. Hungry at a restaurant and your order is taking forever? Just walk up to the next table and take some fries. I've often thought that women like Chads because we can watch them do all the things we wish we could do, without risking anything ourselves. He'd probably even steal the drink for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 03:00 AM
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So I had a conversation about this the other day with my husband, he said something along the lines of "she's ridiculously picky." He doesn't realize I'm just as picky. He doesn't realize that for me, he's the 1%, probably more like 0.1%. I can't imagine rejecting 99% of men on the basis of looks, but that's because I'm so picky with personality, I can't afford to be that picky about looks lol. I only care that they're bangable, and like 60% of nonfat 21-35 year old men are bangable. We all want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:42 AM
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I want the guy that steals FOR me, not the guy that steals FROM me, ya dig?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:53 PM
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IDK, when my husband gives me a gift, I'm not worrying about whether he's doing it because he loves me or because he thinks he's winning brownie points. Who cares, either way I get the gift lol. I only care about manipulation when it starts causing harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:21 PM
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Sure, I used the word "victims" but they can't always be considered victims. Children manipulate adults, pets manipulate people. And people realize they're doing it, and literally don't care because they're cute. Yes, attractive people can get away with more. Manipulators are attractive because manipulators manipulate people into being attracted to them. But sometimes, people just getting away with being more manipulative because they were more attractive to begin with. The cause and effect can …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 07:54 PM
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Can you explain how being bullied into sex is not rape? It is rape, or at least coercion. And, how being manipulated into sex is not just being weak-minded? Manipulators intentionally target people that are easy to manipulate. If they can't manipulate you, they'll move on until they find someone they can. Sometimes that means "weak-minded," other times it means targeting people in vulnerable positions. Anyone can be manipulated if their situation is desperate enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 07:02 PM
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I feel like the women of PPD have been saying this forever but they won't listen, they can't give up their fantasy of finding a woman that's a slut for them and only them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 06:24 PM
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Does this invalidate the notion that men and women have "equal" sex drives? Or do the sexes' libidos change because of factors such as long term relationships? It's both. Domesticity dampens sex drive for both genders, but the difference is more noticeable with women since their sex drive was lower to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 06:15 PM
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Just try different things, you might actually end up enjoying one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:37 AM
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You're supposed to join a group or hobby that's mostly women. If your hobby is mostly men you'll just be competing with tons of other dudes over the same 3 average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:30 AM
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Left, he looks like the guys that rejected me in college lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:28 PM
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They don't have to feel bad about their family member rotting in a nursing home. They don't have to think of themselves as the bad person who abandoned their family. Maybe they even enjoy having them around despite being a burden. All those things are benefits, you said yourself the benefit doesn't have to come from the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 11:54 PM
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Yeah I kind of mentioned that in another comment. I still consider that a benefit, not having to worry, not having to feel guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 10:14 PM
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People stay with terrible partners who make their lives worse because they perceive it as being better than their alternatives. And that's a benefit, or at least a perceived benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:47 PM
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Yet somehow nobody's ever met any of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:41 PM
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All relationships are transactional and all parties benefit, or they wouldn't occur. Including parent/child relationships. If you enjoy someone's company, that's a benefit. If they're interesting to talk to, that's a benefit. If they make you feel warm and fuzzy inside, that's a benefit. If you stay with someone because you'd feel guilty about leaving them, that's a benefit. A relationship without benefits is a relationship without love or sex or compatibility or commitment, basically 2 stranger…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:29 PM
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If you enjoy their company, that's a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:12 PM
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Conversation isn't like ordering a sandwich, normie language is intentionally imprecise. You start out vague so as to relate to more people, invite questions and promote back and forth discussion as opposed to awkward ENTx monologuing or INTx mic-drop conversation enders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 09:20 PM
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Lol no. Spinning plates is called dating around or dating casually. Shit test = she's trying to get a rise out of you. Use normie words lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:52 PM
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Don't think I'd care, I just don't think it's necessary most of the time. Most young nonfat guys already look good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:37 AM
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Hollywood tries to appeal to women but they're terrible at it which is why all those movies suck lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:04 AM
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And what about all the regular non-famous men who look 10x hotter than any male models or Hollywood actors? Pretty sure my husband has never used gear, pretty sure most of my friends don't. The female ideal is literally just normal young healthy men with cute faces lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:01 AM
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So Hollywood caters 100% to male sexuality and none for female? Gee it's almost like Hollywood is sexist or something, almost like the entertainment industry is chock full of gay men, almost like most directors, producers and casting agents are male...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:57 AM
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Yeah I'm aware lots of guys who look like Lance Armstrong are also taking steroids but he's not the ideal either, his body fat % is too low...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:51 AM
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as appealing as possible to the largest demographic Which includes men and their power fantasies. They're not big enough to be repulsive to women but they're not the ideal either. Musicians are closer to the female ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:47 AM
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Yeah and they're all too big, gay male power fantasies lol. Jason Momoa would look better if he lost 30 lb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:40 AM
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Female led cults exist and they operate the exact same way: control the men by allowing them access to multiple young hot women. Just swap out the patriarchal fundie religion for some new age hippie mumbo jumbo. Nobody really cares about the dogma anyways, the women are there for the community and the men are there for the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:09 AM
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I already explained this in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 08:37 PM
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Existing men would mostly be happy about sex selective-abortions, it means they can hoard all the women (including much younger women) and won't have to compete with younger men. Men in polygamist cults already do this voluntarily, they kick the young men out of the cult. Do you really think men will care about a hypothetical future dystopia if it means they can have all the women and sex they could want for the rest of their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 08:22 PM
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We don't have to overpower men that are never born in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 08:12 PM
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If women believed in AMALT we'd selectively abort them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:36 PM
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When you're young, the 'average' is attractive. Most young people haven't gotten fat yet, their bad habits haven't caught up with them, they haven't been beaten down by life. All young healthy people are attractive unless they really lost the genetic lottery, or have bad hygiene or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:32 PM
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If it's not permanent and I can only use it once, I'd wait until I'm old and then use it to double my life expectancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 04:40 AM
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Charge a lot of money to rejuvenate rich people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 04:10 AM
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Eh, pagan women had more rights and opportunities compared to Christian women, but religious institutions were often male-dominated even in paganism. Women were free to start their own female-led cults and nobody would execute them for it, but they weren't necessarily regarded as highly as the male-led cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:20 AM
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Yes! Many "mundane" disciplines such as medicine were once considered mystical because people didn't fully understand how they worked. Writing is another example! Most people didn't know how to read or write, and thought the words looked mystical. People would pay for "spells" which were little more than the customer's desires written on a piece of paper. Mystics were some of the most educated people in ancient societies. They weren't 'just' sorcerers, they were the scholarly class and fulfilled…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 11:38 PM
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In addition to what u/verticordia has already said: In pre-Christian nature-based religions, women's bodies were considered slightly mystical because of their ability to procreate, and because their reproductive cycles corresponded to the cycles of the moon. With limited career options, selling mystical services was a good way for women to make money, especially old widows who couldn't do manual labor, and couldn't find a new husband to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 11:05 PM
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He'd be 24 forever mentally and physically, my husband was a mature 24 year old though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:39 PM
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RP either thinks women are evil for pursuing their self interest, or that we don't know what's best for ourselves and would actually be happier with a man making decisions for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:26 PM
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Women should pursue their self-interest just like men do, there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:13 PM
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The second guy sounds like every guy I've ever had a crush on. It's not ideal, they don't really know how to flirt, but at least they try. The first guy seems like he's trying to skip right past the flirtatious push and pull, will-he-or-won't-he stage of the relationship. And it's like, why would you want to skip the best part?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 06:06 AM
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I only care that he meets my needs, I don't care if he went down on his ex more often. Maybe her needs were greater than mine lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 08:06 PM
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Most women never do the AF part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:50 PM
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Whats wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:45 AM
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Wedding dresses are white because Queen Victoria's wedding dress was white and she started a trend. Before that, they could be blue or black or any other color, most women chose practical colors they could wear again for special occasions. White was intentionally impractical, meant to show you were rich enough to buy a dress you can only wear once. Of course nobody wanted to admit that, so they came up with the white = purity explanation after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 10:11 AM
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All of the sickly members of an antelope herd get eaten by predators. And you think the lioness feels like she's settling? You think she's wishing she went after the faster antelope instead? Nah man, she's just thinking, this guy is fucking tasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:47 AM
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High betas get snapped up young, most are married before 30 and the ones that aren't literally have women competing over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:02 AM
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If she stays with the man that is hot enough for her to want to bang before looking for his status/wealth If wealth and status were the deal-maker, women would fuck on the first date since most guys start bragging about their jobs 5 mins in. It's about getting to know the guy. Average-looking guys are hot, but only if they have a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 04:18 AM
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Except most women love betas and never do the AF part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:52 AM
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Men will date the fat single mom with 3 kids but they won't treat her the same as they'd treat someone they actually like. The same man can be horrible to one woman and prince charming to the next. That's why lots of low-tier women would rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:13 AM
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"Great guys" are "great guys" because they view marriage as the prize. Nobody wants a man who only grudgingly gives commitment in exchange for sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:44 PM
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Person who has something I don't have = asshole, it's the same principle that makes people assume rich kids are douchebags and pretty women are bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 01:03 AM
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Youtube provides such great examples of different types of male and female charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:14 PM
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Sports car is a nice long-term investment. It can, by itself, be turned into source of income. So can an Instagram account, that's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:36 PM
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It could be flirtation, but some people flirt just for fun and don't mean anything by it. Whatever gets them through another day at the cube farm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:26 PM
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They don't even have to ask for money, lonely newly retired boomers are constantly using international family vacations to bribe their kids to hang out (just crop the old people out of your insta photos).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:35 PM
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They're traveling with their parents' money. And their brothers are doing the same thing. You really think rich boomers are only giving money to their daughters and not their sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:53 PM
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Nobody's independent except hermits out in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:15 PM
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I mean they struggle in the sense that they're cheaters who get dumped for cheating and eventually develop a reputation. Then their looks go, and they struggle to maintain the lifestyle of an alpha while looking like a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 09:24 PM
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they want that passionate validational response from women not realizing that eventually passion fades too. See the movie "Take This Waltz", in which basic bitch Michelle Williams leaves beta husband Seth Rogan for alpha artiste Luke Kirby, only to get bored with him after a few years and realize her mistake. One of the realest portrayals of LTR's in media. New relationship energy can't last forever, regardless of your looks or personality. The only reason you don't see women getting bored with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:05 AM
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Nah, everybody knows you can't change a man. You can't "make him do what you want," you marry a man that already does what you want, without being asked. You don't nag, you marry a man that doesn't need to be nagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:29 PM
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Nah I'd rather have the high beta who lets me lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:08 PM
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Men only dominate women when they fail at dominating other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:04 PM
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Most men are naturally submissive; most people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:11 PM
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Because betas are husband-material men who women actively seek out for LTR's and marriage. They're not male models, but some have cute faces, some have nice bodies, some are charming. They're not the neckbeards I feel like you're picturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 07:40 PM
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Both male and female artists are more likely to paint women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 01:07 AM
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They don't need to know. Many relationships have the strong male figurehead while the woman is secretly pulling the strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 12:17 AM
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That is exactly what men would prefer, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:51 PM
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I'm really bad at pretending to be interested in things I'm not interested in. People can tell and it's conversation-ender. I think that's at least part of it. Also my facial expressions are like Kristen Stewart's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:15 PM
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Of course attraction/interest in others dies out when you love someone. Yeah for the honeymoon period. It starts coming back around the 7 year mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:24 AM
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Just because a guy is with you, it doesn't mean he loves or even likes you. You might just be the best he can get at the time. Women don't get it because when a woman stops liking a man, she dumps him. They think, "If he wasn't into me, he'd leave." But men don't leave, at least not until they find someone new (and sometimes not even then). If you're questioning whether he likes you, he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:26 AM
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Number and quality of orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:10 AM
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Never, doesn't matter how much I love the guy. Love isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:22 PM
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You do routine periodic maintenance on the car so it doesn't break down in the middle of the highway. You don't wait until you have a toothache before going to the dentist, you go every 6 months and hopefully keep problems from happening. It's better to prevent a problem than fix it, and better to fix a small problem than allow it to become a bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:42 AM
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Mutually beneficial transactions aren't toxic. Self-interest is toxic when it comes at others' expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:39 PM
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Most guys ask women out who they already know & like, not strangers on the street. If you have male friends, date them. If you don't have male friends, make some.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:25 AM
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I do, men on this sub consistently conflate hyperfeminine high-estrogen traits with neotenous traits. Large eyes, small nose & chin, lack of body hair aren't only traits of children, they're also traits of high-estrogen low-testosterone adult women. That's just what normal women look like; calling them 'neotenous' is like calling men 'neotenous' because they have a flat chest and small hips like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:29 PM
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They don't usually have full lips either, lips become fuller during puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:17 PM
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Yes this is why I've always found online dating pointless, people have totally different personalities and the ones you're attracted to online are usually disappointing in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:37 AM
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If he won't marry her NOW before the baby is born, she can't expect he'll marry her after.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:00 AM
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Only if they're ok with raising their kids alone and never getting married ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:47 AM
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the guy could string you along with false promises. Then he's not high RMV, he's just tricking you into thinking his value is higher than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:04 PM
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A man that doesn't want marriage is like a phone that doesn't text.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:23 PM
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Old guys cold approach. Young guys will ask you out if they already know you & you've been sending them IOI's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:49 AM
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Any man who doesn't want to get married is inherently low RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:25 AM
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In order to work towards a goal, you first have to believe that goal is achievable, otherwise there's no point. They can't change until someone or something convinces them healthy relationships are possible and not just a romance-novel fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:18 PM
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People accept abuse for the same reason people join cults - it's better than whatever alternatives they've experienced. In their mind, the only options are: Stay in the cult, have friends and community, maybe get abused sometimes but at least it's not as bad as what you experienced growing up Leave the cult, go home to abusive/neglectful parents, lose all your friends/community and still get abused anyways They'd 100% prefer the third option (have friends/family/community without being abused) b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:05 PM
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They hate it, they just hate the alternatives even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:10 PM
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Because they can't find someone better, or because they think they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:02 PM
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have you become more wary of potentially running into a red piller ? I'm married, so no. how would you personally screen for a red pill man? My advice for avoiding redpdillers would be the same as my advice for avoiding any other types of low-RMV men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:42 PM
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Nobody can make another person happy, you can only make yourself happy. But sometimes people make you unhappy and the only way to make yourself happy is by separating from that person. Women shouldn't expect a man to make them happy, but they shouldn't settle for someone who makes them unhappy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 10:27 AM
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Completely unrealistic. Salad doesn't make anyone happy. Should be a big bowl of ice cream lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 10:09 AM
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Yeah I'd have totally dated older men, but not the type of older man who chases younger women. I'd have to chase him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:49 AM
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You're going to deal with drama, bullshit, and baggage I don't, though. It's not that hard to find a man without baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:10 AM
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Most of the women talking about how age gapped relationships are bad for women just aren't emotionally equipped to deal with the culture differences, the baggage, etc, of that type of relationship and they know it. It's an "if I couldn't deal with it, you couldn't possibly, either" problem. More like "Why deal with that when you don't have to?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 06:03 PM
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If he's older than like 5 he can do his own laundry, that was my parents' solution to dirty clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:54 PM
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Working parents today spend more time smothering their children than SAHM's did in the 50's. Mom's in the 50's sent their kids outside and said "come home for dinner". Parents today feel like they have to overcompensate because they're not around during the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:45 PM
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Women develop high standards because they have GOOD fathers, not bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 09:23 PM
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He doesn't even have to tell her anything, he just models those behaviors. He sets the bar for what men should be like. She expects a man who treats her the way her dad treats her mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 09:17 PM
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My dudes, why are you so insecure? Who hurt you? Every man has been hurt and rejected, but not every man is insecure. The question is why do some guys let it roll off their back, and others let it ruin their night?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:30 AM
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Confidence fools people into thinking you're much better, more intelligent and competent than you actually are. Of course they'll be disappointed down the line if you don't live up to those expectations. But for the short-term, it gets you in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 03:37 AM
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I even see some male athletes who I'm pretty sure apply makeup for the cameras.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:06 PM
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Submissive women are the same, it's mostly an excuse to not take initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:31 PM
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Well yes, but I doubt they'd listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:45 PM
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Seems like there are more submissive men than dominant ones, or maybe it's just the guys I hang out with. You can usually tell which ones are submissive, too. The richer a man is, the more likely he is to be submissive. The shorter a man is, the more likely he is to be dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:26 PM
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Financial independence (in the sense of not needing a traditional job), a happy inter-species family, property, enough free time for hobbies and travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 03:07 AM
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Some people prefer quality over quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:15 PM
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Just don't tell the new women about the old kids till you've gotten your baby popped out of her How would she not find out? Surely she knows all his family and friends, surely she can access his bank statements and see his child support payments. If not, she'd be an idiot to have a kid with him. Now, if you want to reproduce with slow women and have your kids be genetic trash, go ahead knock yourself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:10 PM
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How many times do you think he can get away with that until 1) he gets a bad reputation and 2) he becomes bankrupted by child support payments? Having any kids at all would be a dealbreaker for me, and many women. 2 kids from 2 different moms, and any woman with half a brain will stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:04 PM
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If that were the deal, women wouldn't marry him or have his babies in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 10:52 PM
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Look it's really simple. If you don't want to do any chores, marry a housewife or SAHM. If you marry a 50/50 woman who works full-time and pays her own way, you're gonna have to do some chores, or hire a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 10:47 PM
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Income is different from social class though. Most guys marry within their class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:39 PM
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Yeah most people move, but some guys travel a lot for work, and with the internet they can orbit from afar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:18 PM
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I'm 30+ and the first round of divorces has just hit. Men immediately go back to orbiting the same (often married) women they liked in college. Oh and trying to poach their friends' wives like they're Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 08:23 PM
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Women don't care about the SMV market, they care about the marriage market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 08:20 PM
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I see women marrying high-value men in their 30's, the 1 common factor is that they're all childfree. Having kids is a bigger detriment than being 30+ without kids. If you're thin, attractive, charming, and childless you can do well. But with the ADD/ASD, you might need to work on your charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 09:20 PM
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Shyness in women (especially attractive women) often comes across as cold and stuck-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:10 PM
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I have noticed some guys only become more interested after I'm mean to them and try to push them away. I've noticed some guys only become interested after I'm taken. IDK how usual it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:39 PM
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I would only need 3 days if some mishap occurred during the act, which has happened once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:27 PM
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It's not difficult, but it's not effortless either. First you have to look good, which is an effort in itself. Then you have to find where the attractive men hang out. Then you have to select targets - multiple, since some of them won't like you, others will be taken or gay or have bad personalities. Place yourself next to your targets. Find an excuse to casually strike up conversation. Be charming. Send IOI's and gauge his interest. He probably won't ask you out the first time you introduce you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:34 PM
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Yeah we're the same with timing. He'd prefer early morning, I'd prefer midday, but usually it happens at night which isn't ideal for either of us. If he could come home for lunch I bet we'd have sex more often. And better/more energetic sex, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:29 AM
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inb4- “I once had sex 78x in a weekend”. Lol well yeah sometimes I’m super horny and have lots of sex in a contained time frame too. Doesn’t mean I sustain that frequency in perpetuity. Yeah this is why I asked for women who live with their SO's. It's easy to have sex 5 times in a weekend if you haven't seen each other all week. It's another thing to maintain that frequency every day for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:12 AM
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No, I've been manipulated by other teens when I was a teen. They weren't that much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:46 AM
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Well yes, it's low compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 04:46 AM
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High libido woman + younger man sounds like a perfect match TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 01:44 AM
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Ok I guess it's only fair I answer my own question. Yes, I have more sex for my husband's benefit. We have sex 4-5 times a week, if I didn't care about pleasing him it'd probably be 2 or 3 times. I'm still attracted to my husband, if anything he looks better than when we first started dating. I still catch myself staring at him, but that doesn't always translate into wanting sex. I'm your stereotypical low-libido, low-n, no-sex-without-emotional-connection type woman. I also have depression so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:59 PM
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I personally think women are part of the reason they’re walking around with inflamed and sore vaginas and spending money on Vagisil every month. They want monogamy and exclusive rights to that man because they love him. So they are forcing their square selves into that round hole. This comment from u/GridReXX begs the question: How often do you have sex with your husband? How often would you have sex if it were just for you, and not for your husband's benefit? In other words, how many women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:03 PM
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Not all women can have multiple orgasms, some have refectory periods like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 08:56 PM
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Self-employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:16 PM
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Part of the hard truth of entitlement is that the benefits that you want to believe are earned are not. That's not really what it means, though. Having privilege doesn't mean you're not interesting, or qualified, or that you didn't work hard. It just means other (interesting, qualified, hardworking) people won't get the same recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 12:20 AM
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Eh I'm ugly too, average at best, and my husband makes a decent income. I don't think the problem is looks. Do you socialize with any higher income men? They can't date you if they don't know you exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:38 PM
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When someone values something, they're willing to pay for it or work for it. Maybe you are, but I think it's pretty clear most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 02:08 AM
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Do you value and desire random men you don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 01:58 AM
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Nah he's right. Women desire and value individual men, not men in general. Men value and desire women in general, at least the young pretty ones. Men are valued as individuals, women as interchangeable resources. Why they think they'd prefer that is beyond me, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 01:56 AM
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I didn't say an average woman could get a "tall, handsome, masculine guy with a good career." I said she could get a "decent man who loves, respects, and financially supports her."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 10:09 PM
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Men want and need women more than women want and need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 09:32 PM
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I'm not socially skilled either but I managed to fake it long enough to snag a man lol. Social skills are something you can work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 08:05 PM
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I see lots of women who don't know how to play the cards - settling for less when they could easily have more. Trying to change a man when they could easily get a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 07:52 PM
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Anything beyond showing up is overkill. An average-looking fertile-aged woman can show up with nothing but her body, face, smile, charm and personality and find a man who loves, respects, and financially supports her. Anything else you do is extra, it's not necessary to get the relationship you want. Women hold all the cards, it's just that some women don't know how to play them. Workhorses see other women getting twice as much with half as much effort, and they blame the man they're with. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 07:45 PM
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Probably they think they can change him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 07:28 PM
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Its true most people overestimate their contributions. However 40% of married women say their husbands are less supportive than their pets. All they'd have to do is cuddle, pay attention, and then at least they'd be on the same level as the dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 07:24 PM
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Lots of women manage to find better relationships than that. Which is why there's no point in settling - they probably CAN do better. The ones who can't either settle for one-sided or become cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:40 PM
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What's the point of staying in a relationship like that? A dog would be a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:35 PM
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So they should just stay in one-sided relationships forever and be happy about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:19 PM
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The only reason they mind the unpaid labor is because they're doing 40 hours of paid labor, too. They know they're getting a raw deal working 50% of the hours, doing 75% of the chores and 90% of the emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:16 PM
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I can absolutely be attracted to men I don't respect. I just wouldn't marry them. Maybe I'm an outlier here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:09 AM
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It's the opposite: status is a form of currency. Do you think people chase status just to make themselves feel superior and make everyone else jealous? No, it's because status is a bargaining chip they can use to buy easier lives and better opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:21 AM
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You can't use money to attract women and then be surprised when they want your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 12:43 AM
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Alphas are supposed to be attractive though, humorless squares aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:59 PM
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I was talking about personality, I like pretty men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:52 PM
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If you keep them separate, your friends will think he's not serious about you (which he's probably not), or you're ashamed of him (which you probably are). When everyone else brings their SO's to an event and you're the only one flying solo, people are going to ask why he's not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:32 PM
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Nah it becomes less relevant after you graduate and move to a new city where you don't have any friends anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 06:56 PM
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When you bring them around your friends they don't fit in, they're the weird older guy. They're uncool, unless he's famous or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 06:42 PM
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Not only will all her friends be jealous That's not what happens, you lose status among your friends. He'd better be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 04:28 PM
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I look for guys who are similar to me. So probably they're more feminine than an average man, and more masculine than an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 08:34 PM
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Hmm most of the guys I dated expected me to give up whatever hobbies I had and adopt their hobbies instead. Men want you to have hobbies - theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:22 PM
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Why tf do I never see any girls like this in real life? Are the girls that I'm attracted/are attracted to me just bimbos? How old are you? I didn't have any hobbies until my mid 20's. Growing up my parents thought hobbies were a waste of time. They thought I should be studying, or at least doing something that would look good on college apps. They chose my activities for me, based on what they thought would look good. Hobbies became just another chore, something I did to please other people and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 06:55 PM
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Why not? Just find a different guy to date. Abundance mentality and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:25 PM
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Women have no trouble maintaining friendships with men they're attracted to. We have much better emotional control than men TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:20 PM
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They don't want action oriented advice. Why do you think that is? Fear of rejection? Or they see other (prettier) women getting approached and want that for themselves? Honestly it's much easier to chat up a man than it is to lose 20 lb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:01 AM
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Your looks alone aren't enough to attract men. You need to attract them with your charm and personality. But they won't see those things unless they spend time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:02 AM
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Most women already have some combination of beauty and/or social skills that's sufficient for them to find the men they want. Average-looking girls with bad social skills will need to work. But they're a smaller minority than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:04 PM
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I'm only half kidding, it shows they don't care about other people looking and judging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:42 PM
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It's how they show dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:35 PM
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It seems true of old men, not young ones. Old people in general have higher self-esteem despite being fatter and uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:31 PM
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And 19 you were probably underestimating your value and dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:29 AM
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I'm married and literally just do whatever I want. Which would be far more difficult without my husband's support. Also every man I've dated has been more social than me. To find someone less social I'd have to marry a literal hermit. I met most of my friends through my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 01:55 AM
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It depends on what you mean by high value. If high-value includes being marriage and family minded, then it's the total opposite, high value guys settle down early. I know a lot of rich, handsome guys in their 30's who some women would consider high value. But they have other qualities which make them low-value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 01:15 AM
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I see what kind of men are still on the market at my age, I'd rather take my chances of divorce than get stuck with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:59 AM
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Most women are already doing what TRP says they should be doing. They start dating their future spouse in their early 20's and marry him in their late 20's. They're not waiting until 30+ to look for a husband. Men are just complaining because young high-value women don't want to settle down with their older leftover asses. Leftovers get leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:43 PM
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Nah, think of all the female celebrities who get cheated on. For every beautiful woman there's a a man that's tired of fucking her. If her SMV is low, she might not be able to find someone better but she can find another branch to swing to in case he dumps her for his mistress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:42 PM
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Ok, but what happens if you're incorrect in your assumption that he's already cheating? Then you're the one who ruined things. It's the prisoner's dilemma: The winning deterministic strategy was tit for tat... The strategy is simply to cooperate on the first iteration of the game; after that, the player does what his or her opponent did on the previous move. In other words, start off faithful and retaliate if he cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:46 PM
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Nah it's totally possible to find men who don't cheat. But if your man does cheat, and you don't want to leave him over it, then by all means you can cheat too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:09 PM
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Because those things are trivial. Men don't have trouble orgasming and women don't have trouble finding men who want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:20 AM
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An average girl putting out for a hotter guy is just a plate. He can have sex whenever he wants, it won't make you stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:44 AM
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This is why attractive men are the first to settle down. Shit gets old fast. Average guys are more reluctant because they're still wondering what they might've missed out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:16 AM
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If married women started demanding daily sex from their husbands they'd have to fantasize about their secretaries just to stay hard. Part of what keeps them interested is the fact that they can't have sex whenever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:40 AM
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The point is they're happy having sex once/week, I doubt they would be if it were duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:28 AM
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It's effective at securing ATTRACTIVE high-value men. Sex has 2 parts, anticipation and release. Anticipation = the thrill of the chase. Release = the actual sex. Attractive men can get laid whenever they want, it's easy for them. They have release but no anticipation. So to attract an ATTRACTIVE man, you fulfill his need for anticipation by making him chase you, making him work for it and wait for it. Smart women have literally known this for hundreds of years, that's how Anne Boleyn married He…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:28 AM
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Well obviously you can't let him know you're not into it. Sex is performative. The man performs by making the woman orgasm, and the woman performs by making the man feel like a sex god. As long as he upholds his duty, you uphold yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:03 AM
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The more sex you have, the faster you get bored of each other. Sex has 2 parts, anticipation and release. But you can't want something that's always available, and sex without anticipation becomes boring and mundane like masturbation. When there's no anticipation with your partner, you start fantasizing about other people. So you have to choose: quality or quantity? Can't have both in the long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:14 AM
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The only reason people had more sex in the past is because there wasn't anything else to do. That's why birth rates spike 9 months after a blackout.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 11:54 PM
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It's not as simple as feeling like you deserve abuse. People with low self-esteem often cope by trying to make themselves feel superior. She knows she's a piece of shit, so she needs to be with an even bigger piece of shit so she can feel better in comparison. A normal guy would make her feel inferior - because she would be. She's selfish, superficial, and vain, but she doesn't want to change. It makes her feel like maybe she's not so bad, if she can love someone even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:52 PM
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Well you can tell a guy, "I think married people should prioritize their spouse and marriage over everything else," but they won't necessarily understand the far-reaching implications of that. Does the woman need to spell out every possible scenario that might arise over the next 50 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:49 AM
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Women don't change, relationships change. That's what guys don't get. The reason your female friends are so cool and chill is because, well, they're your friends. They have no expectations of you. If she became your wife, she'd expect you to start prioritizing her above everything else. Women have different expectations for their husband than a guy they've been dating 2 months. Before you get engaged, figure out her expectations for a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 07:58 PM
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It means thinking your partner is better than they really are, and better than you deserve. No reason both partners can't see each other that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 11:20 PM
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Huh? My husband and I both pedestalize each other, for different reasons. There should be no settler, both partners should feel and act like the reacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 09:57 PM
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Guys in this thread hate being called "nice" and "cute" because they're a bunch of betas who get told that stuff all the time. You know who loves being called "cute"? Giant bearded lumberjacks who've been over 6" since middle school and never been called "cute" in their lives. They probably like being the little spoon, too. Treat people the opposite of how other girls treat them. Tell the bad boy he's nice and tell the good boy he's bad. Treat the nerd like a jock, treat the jock like a nerd. Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:23 PM
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Stop doing things for men who aren't your boyfriend. Including sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:46 AM
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IDK, my dad dyed his hair for years and no one gave him shit about it. Maybe he got a bad dye job. When I got a bad dye job people gave me shit about it too - to my face, not behind my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:28 AM
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Nah. Most rich 'housewives' have their own income, their husband gives them startup money for their businesses. That's the thing most people don't understand. Poverty mentality = I can have a career OR be a housewife. Rich person's mentality = I can have a career AND a husband that pays all my bills. Rich people don't have to choose, they figure out how to have both. Also someone that rich has no need to work 80 hours per week unless they WANT to (and some people want to). The rich business owne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:29 PM
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Who cares how many women they WANT to bang, it only matters that they don't. A man who could sleep around but doesn't demonstrates high self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:04 AM
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Then why are men more likely to leave a woman when she gets cancer or chronic illness. Or when they have a disabled child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:17 PM
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Ever noticed how rich women look plainer than middle class women? They spend just as much time on their appearance, but try to look like they don't. Intentionally messy hair, little to no makeup, understated neutral clothes. They're trying to separate themselves from the Kardashian copycat bourgeoisie. They're signaling "I'm high-status enough that I don't have to try as hard. I'm high-status enough that I don't have to follow trends." It's all about class and status. Middle class people try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 07:08 PM
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Its not hard to find men with low n's. Most men have low n's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:59 PM
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So you look down on her, but you're not actually confident you can find someone better. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:07 AM
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So why are you with her, then? If it's true that it'd only take 5 days to find someone just as good - give yourself 30 days and you can probably find someone much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:23 PM
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If beauty standards were about "signs of fertility," body hair and acne would be considered peak attractiveness. Eh not exactly. It's true that women are most likely to get acne during their most fertile years. However, adult acne in women is often symptomatic of hormone imbalances such as PCOS which can impair fertility. Women also tend to get acne around their periods, aka their least fertile time of the month. Excessive body hair can also be a sign of hormone imbalance, however moderate body …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 09:51 PM
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9 or 10, it's usually one of the first signs of puberty. Before breasts, periods etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 09:49 PM
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It's really not that hard. Men are the ones pushing women for commitment most of the time. If a woman has to beg for commitment, or if she can't get commitment, she's doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:19 AM
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She should select the best partner who won't ditch her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:00 PM
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Lmfao, womens value relies on their youth and fertility, as soon as that goes, they have the same value as a short/broke guy...which is ZERO. Which is exactly why women need to capitalize on that value while they've still got it. A woman can't afford to waste her fleeting youth on losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:45 PM
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I don't like people in general, but I'd rather hang out with men because women are too nice and it creeps me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:07 PM
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Any guy who likes you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:46 AM
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Uhhh your only argument so far has been that everything in life is pointless unless it promotes your genetic legacy. So why are you even here, you should be out there poking holes in condoms and trying to impregnate randos.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:36 AM
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The bragging is so cringe. Even if you enjoy doing things for your SO, you should never advertise that about yourself, or you'll always attract users. It's like a man using his money to get women, he'll only attract gold diggers. He should fall for your personality, save the favors until AFTER he commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:53 PM
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No. Girls with game aren't bitchy. Bitchy is the opposite of girl-game and pick-me is the cheap imitation. There's other options besides pick-me and bitch, like being a normal fucking person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:19 PM
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Women try to buy men with favors because their looks & personality aren't enough. And men LIKE getting favors, sure. But when it comes time to settle down and get married, they choose the woman with real value over the woman with cheap favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:09 PM
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If you hang out with attractive, valued women, you won't see many of them. They're either low-value women nearing the wall, or high school girls who haven't learned their own value yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:44 PM
3

Can't marry a high-value man by acting like a low-value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:43 PM
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Neither. I mostly hear men brag about their wives for being good at things - sometimes feminine things like cooking, sometimes cool-girl things like sports and video games. They don't really complain, high value men know better than to air their dirty laundry in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:32 PM
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I don't have data, but anyone can see what happens in real life. Men use pick-me's as bang maids and backup girls until a girl with actual game comes along. Then they go chasing after her like puppies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:27 PM
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A "pick me" isn't a woman who shows interest in men or asks men out. It's a woman who tries to buy love with favors, the same way a Nice Guy tries to buy sex with favors. It's a fool's errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:54 PM
1

For me, a short guy with a handsome face is about equal to a tall guy with an average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:30 PM
1

Yeah of course, just not as hot as they'd be if they were tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:08 PM
1

I don't think cougars are generally looking for someone to take care of them, if they were they'd go for men their own age, or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:51 AM
1

What makes you think you're not good husband material?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:00 AM
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The ideal situation for me is the current situation - I initiate and other women don't. Part of the reason it works is by making me stand out from all the other women who don't initiate. But if I had to choose between "women always initiate/men aren't allowed to initiate" and "men always initiate/women aren't allowed to initiate", I'd take the former. Initiating is just much more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 01:35 AM
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Guys hold almost all of the cards. A lot of them just don't use them. Women also hold a lot of cards they don't know how to use. They understand the importance of beauty, but nobody tells them about girl game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 01:07 AM
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But most men can't have multiple women, so they settle for having the best singular woman they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:51 AM
1

So like a pension plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:11 AM
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I wouldn't view it as nefarious. It doesn't mean we're not 'real friends'. I've had 'real friends' I've wanted to fuck. Haven't we all? I might feel insulted if they were only asking for sex and not relationships. Like, am I not good enough for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:08 PM
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Only true by counting women as having half of their husband's income pre divorce. But really, she had no income pre divorce. Yes, so what are men complaining about? They're giving their ex-wives far less than when they were married. Financially they're better off divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:42 AM
1

On average mens' disposable income increases by 30% after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 08:18 PM
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Half of men pay less than the required amount of child support and 25% don't pay anything at all. I've known trashy men who whine and complain about having to support their children at all. I've also known men who voluntarily paid much MORE than required, because they wanted their children to have the best life they could provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:29 PM
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Everyone wants to have sex with other people but nobody wants their partner(s) to have sex with other people. Monogamy is the compromise. You can't just tell people to stop being jealous. We're biologically programmed to not want our partners to fuck other people, just as we're biologically programmed to want to fuck other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:06 PM
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The hot ones do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:52 PM
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She still looks good though. I've known girls who look like a frog walking on its hind legs, skinny arms and legs with a thick waist and potbelly. That's what I think of when I picture a skinnyfat girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:38 PM
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Most women end up worse off financially after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:09 PM
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Nah this is the real reason people aren't having sex. People are studying and working too hard, but still struggling economically and often living at home. They don't have the time, money, energy, or confidence to go out and meet people. They live nomadic lifestyles chasing job opportunities, and don't have any social network as a result. They use apps as a band-aid and get discouraged when those apps turn out to be a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:40 PM
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Depression is also a libido killer. It's a choice between being depressed with no sex drive and feeling otherwise normal with no sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:18 PM
1

It happens a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:24 PM
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My parents were like "You can tell me anything honey," then when I tried, they'd either get angry, or minimize it, or panic. Basically negative reinforcement, so I learned not to open up, and not to trust people who try to make me open up. Basically the same thing OP is complaining about, but hey it happens to girls too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:21 PM
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Only works if she's smarter than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:56 PM
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Because it's girl game 101. If you want a guy to fall in love with you, don't be repelled when he shows weakness (or at least act like you're not). Become his sole confidante and emotional support etc etc. Girls who shame men don't have game. IDK where people get this idea of being 100% open and honest with each other at all times. It's more like verbal diarrhea. If your wife comes home with a bad haircut you don't say "WOW THAT'S A BAD HAIRCUT." And if your husband's vulnerability repulses you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 07:13 PM
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Because most women have been that younger woman getting groomed by older creeps. And yes, they always turn out to be creeps, it's never a normal guy who pursues teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:59 PM
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Like a middle school dance with all the boys on one side and all the girls on the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 11:18 PM
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Then make him fear the consequences of cheating more than he desires to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:47 PM
1

Married people don't get sexual freedom that's kinda the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:47 PM
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Don't marry a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:45 PM
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In the ancient world men married who they were obligated to marry - often their cousin or niece, sometimes sight unseen. Female mortality was higher than male mortality, so men outnumbered women slightly. This drove down the age of (first) marriage for women as men scrambled to find wives that weren't taken. We can observe the same trend in societies with gender imbalances today. Marriage and procreation were a matter of civic duty - with mortality so high, each couple had to have 5+ children ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:35 PM
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Being a widow for the last 20 years of your life (and a caregiver for who knows how long before that) isn't optimal. Good luck remarrying when you're 50+. You're better off re-entering the dating market as a 35yo divorced starter wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:59 PM
1

Huh? Self-employed people are generally well-respected in society. The more money they've got, the more respected they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:45 PM
1

They sound like my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:35 PM
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Supportive, accommodating. Genuinely enjoys spending time with me. Doesn't talk too much, but makes good conversation. Doesn't try to change or control me. At least average looks. Well above average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:01 AM
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I'd be much more picky about a woman's style and grooming. With men, you expect them to dress poorly. But there's lots of stylish women out there, so why settle for one that's not? Other than that I think my standards would be pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:52 AM
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You can't shun him and you can't send him away, he'll return with an army. Your enemies will partner with him and try to install him in your children's place. The only options are to either placate him and hope it's enough, or make him disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:38 AM
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I'll sleep well knowing there's no one out there who can contest my children's claim to succession.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:53 AM
1

It's not about guilty or innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:47 AM
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I'd just prefer if he didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:40 AM
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Hopefully I'd find out in advance, then I can just push the mother down a flight of stairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:27 AM
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Kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 01:22 AM
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Beauty is relative, if everyone became more attractive people would just raise their standards. 50% will always be below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:52 PM
1

I know people who enlisted solely for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:20 PM
1

Big noses, guys with small noses look slow to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:16 PM
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From the Middle Ages onward, arranged marriage was only practiced among the aristocratic ruling class (we're talking about the <0.1%). Most people would go through courtship and choose their own partner, though they might've had to get their parents' blessing. People think arranged marriage/early marriage was more common than it actually was, because most of the history books are written about rich people. Most people who weren't rich married in their 20's to partners of similar age - because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:52 PM
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In history when women married at 14-16 it was either a result of 1) arranged marriage (which only affected the tiny minority of high-born women) or 2) compulsory military service which effectively segregated the marriage-aged population. When left to their own devices people have always gotten married in their 20's to partners of similar age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:04 PM
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It's a bit of girl game. True - it's not all about protecting his feelings and avoiding arguments. Want a guy to fall in love with you? Make him feel like a sex god.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:51 PM
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Most people in history didn't marry 13 year olds, and when they did it had nothing to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:04 PM
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If I believed half the shit redpillers say about men I'd start a movement to have them castrated at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:55 PM
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when you see him for the first time Never happened to me without knowing him for a couple weeks, sometimes much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:57 PM
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Already have better than that with a ring on my finger Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:19 PM
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So what are they supposed to do? Not everyone can be attractive, no matter how much they hit the gym. The only options are work hard or lay down and rot. I've got more respect for someone who makes the best of what they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:19 PM
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Women lie to spare mens' feelings and make them feel good about themselves. Some guys are very determined and don't want to stop until the woman has an orgasm, but sometimes she's just not feeling it, so she fakes an orgasm to get him to wrap it up. When women aren't satisfied, some men blame the woman's body instead of trying something different, which leads to #4: Women lie because they don't want men to call them frigid or defective for being unable to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 08:06 PM
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flirts with every woman (including the older ones) I tend to go for shy guys but there's nothing worse than the guy who flirts with all the hot girls and ignores - or is rude to - all the fat/old/ugly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:47 PM
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Sometimes people make weird expressions for no reason and it makes them look a bit nutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:41 PM
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Magnetic pull, like it's difficult not to inappropriately touch and stalk them lol. And no looks aren't sufficient, at least not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:35 PM
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Yep my ex was like this, other guys thought he was gay, he had some feminine mannerisms and wasn't even that hot, but girls were constantly throwing themselves at him and he loved the attention. Not very fun to be his girlfriend though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:20 PM
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Yep my husband got into the habit of doing this because he matured early, didn't like standing out in middle school/high school and thought he was "too tall" lol. Thankfully he doesn't do it much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:11 PM
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My life is like 60% marriage, 20% career, 20% other shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:42 PM
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There's lots of reasons to stay in an LTR, but from a practical standpoint, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Your husband might not be perfect but at least you already know all his flaws. The new guy might turn out to be a mean lazy cunt. Women in particular are more risk-averse, as they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:34 PM
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Not everyone struggles to maintain a normal weight, some people self-regulate without even having to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:45 PM
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Sure, 60% isn't AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:39 PM
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Evolutionary impulse is what makes people want to stuff their faces at every opportunity, anyone who maintains a normal BMI is capable of overcoming evolutionary impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 07:34 PM
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If I had multiple husbands but they all stayed monogamous and got along well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 02:03 AM
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Something I read about women, is that they're essentially biologically designed to never be satisfied. They're always pressing for more. I actually think it's the total opposite, the vast majority of people aren't like this, but the ones that are are mostly men. That's why most of the super-rich are men, a woman would've earned a couple mil then retired to Costa Rica or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:47 PM
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Guys with attractive, but bitchy exes can also be easy prey. But I'd prefer if she was awful all-around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:51 PM
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Not only would I prefer if they're fat and ugly, but dumb and bitchy as well. The worse they are, the better I look in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:33 PM
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Really? My husband did. Seems like all the high value men are taken before 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:55 PM
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I agree most of the time it's not conscious, but sometimes it is. One friend of mine in particular would get drunk and laugh about how he's using his older girlfriend for rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:03 PM
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Yeah ok that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:55 PM
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Most entrepreneurs are serial entrepreneurs meaning they'll start several businesses before one is successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:26 PM
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Luckily the women in my life were mostly smart and waited until after the wedding before putting their husbands through grad school. Breadwinner for a few years, wealthy housewife for the rest of your life. It can be a good investment. Just don't do it unless you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:10 PM
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It's simple, they freeload. When it's not girlfriends it's family and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:42 AM
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20 something millennial women are not paying a man's rent in the majority of cases. You must not know a lot of grad students or serial entrepreneurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:31 AM
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Men have the total opposite strategy. They bang the Becky, then marry the Stacy. They use Becky as a bang maid and to pay their rent in their 20's. They string her along saying they're "not ready for marriage yet," when really they're just not that into her. Then they ditch her when they're wealthy enough to afford a Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:09 AM
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They're not dead they're just taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 04:19 AM
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When I say masculine I mean man-brained, having a personality type more common among men than women. Usually more analytical, self-assured, individualistic, emotionally reserved and so on. Men say they want soft, nurturing, submissive, clingy, innocent - and they do, they want someone like that to take advantage of until they dump her and devote their lives to a man-brained woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 09:28 PM
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There's nothing wrong with preferring masculine women, it's just one of those "trust his actions, not his words" situations. Men tell women to be more feminine, then they turn around and take advantage of feminine women while reserving their love and respect for masculine ones. Anyone with eyes can see masculine women are better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 09:02 PM
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Is it idealism if I've already found a partner like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:18 PM
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I definitely don't look better on the outside lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:38 AM
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Most women I know in relationships, the guy chased them. They just got tired of saying no to him. So I've had relationships like that, and I think it's important to note: none of that means he actually loves you. What he really loves is the challenge, as you said. The overwhelming majority of guys will immediately stop putting in effort once they believe they've caught you. You can't judge his love or devotion based on how he acts in the beginning. So it's not a good enough reason to get into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:54 AM
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I'm from a conservative, traditional family - and all the women are kind of mannish. You wouldn't realize it from looking at them, because they dress feminine and have feminine interests. Some have pink collar jobs, some are SAHM's. But in thought and personality, they're mannish AF. I don't think it's a coincidence. When society values the masculine over the feminine, girls adopt those traits, too. They want to be loved and respected just like everybody else. And it works - dad pays more attent…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:10 AM
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SAHM's are SAHM's because they're getting something out of it. It's the same as any other job. If your boss stopped paying you, you'd stop going to work. If SAHM's stopped getting free room and board, healthcare, fulfillment etc, they'd stop SAHM'ing - moreover, they'd have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:44 AM
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The right partner treats you as an equal - moreover they see you as an equal - even if you're physically weaker or poorer or whatever the imbalance happens to be. Because they respect and value your other contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:28 AM
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There's always an inherent power imbalance. My husband is physically stronger than me. I know he won't ever use his strength against me, so there's no point in worrying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:13 AM
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Employment is degrading, that's pretty much why I became self-employed. TBH it's much easier to find a provider husband who respects and treats you as an equal than a boss who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:02 AM
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Not really, it's all just work in exchange for provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:53 AM
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Everyone's financially dependent, employees are financially dependent on their employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:45 AM
1

I prefer animals because they don't talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:22 AM
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I've ignored red flags, but it had more to do with my own desperation than their attractiveness or even shared chemistry. Bad hygiene. Being rude to me and others. Bragging about being a player or being attractive to other women (so lame lol). Not listening or asking questions. Being "busy". Disagreeableness. Throwing tantrums. Never apologizing. Loud obnoxious attention whoring. Put downs. Not wanting me to have anything outside of him - no friends that weren't his friends, no hobbies that were…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:10 AM
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It's not something I think about. The things people listed might make me feel attractive, strong, accomplished, etc. Not feminine or masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 09:49 PM
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Even dumpy guys get bored, then cheat with the funny fat girl who can hang.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 03:17 AM
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I know people who've done it. More common than leg lengthening, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 02:47 AM
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I am, but he's not lame and boring like you describe. Hiking is free. Parks are free. A potluck dinner costs the same as cooking at home. There's plenty of ways to go out and have fun without spending lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:04 PM
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Because people literally tell us we're fat and ugly all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 05:56 PM
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I think it depends on whether that insecurity is serving you, or harming you (and others).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:52 PM
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Men expect a physically attractive partner even if they're not attractive. They expect a woman to have a low-n even if they're sluts. They reject single moms even when they have kids. They expect her to do most of the chores and childcare even if she's working full time. They want her to have the qualities of a good/attentive mom, even (especially) if they have no intentions of being a good/attentive dad. And finally the older they get, the less willing they are to date women their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:39 PM
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Yeah, men are terrified of appearing insecure so they overcompensate and act like they're better than everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:29 AM
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The standards for income are lower. The standards for everything else are equal or higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:51 AM
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Yeah but they dated their wife for 7 years beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:49 AM
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It makes him look like a dad figure to the young bucks. Maybe 50 year old women are into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:46 PM
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Important =/= interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:39 PM
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Majority of women don't chase old men...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:16 PM
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An alpha woman isn't a masculine woman, it's a high-status woman. It's much easier to reach that level of status if a woman strategically performs a balance of feminine and masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:29 PM
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Don't become boring lame and dad-like. Don't drone on about your job or your personal finance strategy. Nobody cares. Don't repeat the same stories from 20 years ago (because nothing interesting has happened to you since then). Don't be curmudgeonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:18 PM
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Moms want their sons to marry a nice girl and have grandchildren, they don't want them to be players.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:52 PM
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Situations like that attract pedos. There's a reason most kids who grow up in cults get molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 07:46 AM
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I'd want to know, and I wouldn't dump him right away. I'd give him another chance to prove his fidelity and earn my trust back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:13 AM
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Yeah that's a good point. Less competition, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 11:31 PM
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The goal was to get an engineering student on the hook. Why? If they want money they can do better than engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 10:48 PM
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Being the aggressor should be a good filter, 90% of them will run away but the other 10% will be your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 08:47 PM
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No, I might date other guys but I wouldn't have sex with any of them. No sex without commitment and exclusivity, that's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 07:02 PM
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It'd make me want him more. I like a challenge. That said, I'd give up eventually. Like maybe around the 6 month mark. Then I'd start questioning his sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 06:04 PM
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I mean I'd rather be raped than murdered, but I think rapists are more fucked in the head than most murderers. Most murders are related to gang warfare, they're not like Ted Bundy killing people for fun. Rape is always sadistic, there's nothing to gain except the act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 04:00 AM
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they might end up just being flirtatious with everyone, and honestly believe it doesn’t count because “who would want to date plain old me?” This is why old ladies are much more outgoing and flirtatious than younger ones. Young women have to stifle themselves, old ladies don't because they don't expect anyone to take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 03:50 AM
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I would say it's not just about breaking rules, it's about making the woman feel like SHE can break society's oppressive rules, and he'll accept and even love her for it. Bonnie and Clyde style.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 06:34 PM
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I don't think of it as "making men wait," I just don't do things I don't wanna do. Sex without emotion is like fake plants, frozen dinners, and live-laugh-love canvas prints. It's like, once you tear the soul out of something, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 06:19 PM
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Not all CEO's are founders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 11:58 AM
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That only looks good in pictures though, in real life it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 07:12 PM
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Dermatologist every 1-2 months, 3 different prescription products, occasional procedures like micro-needling etc. Additional non-prescription products. Weekly DIY facial (mask, massage, exfoliation, extractions, etc). Wear sunscreen, get enough sun to keep you from looking pasty but not enough to age you. Hair treatment every 2 weeks, haircut every 5, henna whenever. Style it daily. Shave legs, underarms, arms, trim pubes, pluck brows and wax facial hair. Body oil, cocoa butter, dry brush. DIY m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 06:24 PM
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Take a bunch of nerds, or a bunch of goths, or a bunch of asperger's syndrome sufferers, and put them in a room together. They socialize with each other in a perfectly functional way. They can cooperate and work together perfectly well, no worse than any bunch of normies. To me social skills is being able to socialize with the jocks AND the nerds AND the goths AND the class presidents, not just people within your own group. On the other hand some people have no friends and can't socialize at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 01:54 AM
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Or they'll do chores, but only when you specifically tell them (nag), because they "can't see mess" and need to be told it's there. And it's like bitch, you could see the mess just fine when we were dating and you tidied your apartment before I came over. It's strategic incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:28 PM
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Nothing, nobody's really a natural, they just think they are because they learned the rules earlier than they can remember. But social skills are learned, that's why they're called "skills", nobody's born with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:18 PM
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Guy with female friends is fine, even preferable. Female 'best friend' is a red flag. Really he's her orbiter and you're his backup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:01 PM
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It's not Hollywood that makes men think they can get hot girls, it's their own life experience. Men think they're as hot as the hottest girl they've ever been with. She becomes their new baseline. In reality they just got lucky 1 time, probably a depressed girl on the rebound. So women should stop dating down, it gives them big heads. It won't make him appreciate you, he'll just think he can do even better next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 09:13 PM
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Well men are the ones promoting the stereotype that "men are simple creatures", "just keep his belly full and his balls empty" etc. Women just believe what men tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 05:56 PM
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No, it means she needs to find her niche and then appeal to that niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:38 PM
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Depression and low self-esteem. I always assumed I'd have to settle, I never thought I'd be able to get the whole package. At least he wasn't abusive and had a few traits I valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:36 PM
1

I just said it depends on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 08:26 PM
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It's not sudden, all the little lame actions and words add up over months until you realize that's who he is and it's not gonna stop. For me the final straw was taking him out to a party with my friends. He'd worn a dirty, stained shirt, got drunk to cope with social anxiety, and made inappropriate jokes and comments in front of my friends. I realized if I stayed with him, I'd have to check his clothes before leaving the house, like a child. And I'm not sure there's anything I could've done to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 07:28 PM
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It's not accurate and it's not enough. Men aren't as simple as they pretend to be. They want the whole package just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 07:00 PM
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Because most women don't have casual sex and don't want to be approached just for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:28 AM
1

Forget the alcohol, 12 beers is a lot of calories and carbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:36 AM
10

Only women are treated as averages. Men have no trouble seeing each other for their individual qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:45 PM
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No matter how competent you are or how much you prove yourself, some men will never respect you just because you're a woman. They'll also hold men to a much lower standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:40 PM
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I’ll show up after she’s been cleaning for a couple hours and it still looks like shit, not even tidied up really. Of course it does, for example to clean and organize the refrigerator you first have to take everything out of the refrigerator, which means it'll be sitting around on the counters looking messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 08:51 PM
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It's true, and unrelated to gender. Being a doormat won't make people like you, it'll make them lose whatever respect they might've otherwise had. People either like you or they don't, and doing them favors isn't going to change it. Trust actions not words. Sometimes it's not enough to stand up for yourself, I once had a boss who only respected people who yelled and argued with him. Sometimes you have to speak their language.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 01:53 AM
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If I have the same problem with every guy or with many guys, it's my fault. If the problem is unique to one guy, it's his fault, or just a fundamental incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:32 AM
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They don't use the phrase 'party boy' b/c that has negative connotations, but they'll tell you they want someone social, extroverted, life of the party. Or the inverse, they'll say they don't want a 'boring' homebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 10:22 PM
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What do you think causes it? Spoiled princess syndrome? Or deluding yourself to cope with insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 09:56 PM
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Seeing women explain away this process is one of the places where i really do see a decent amount of cognitive dissonance, because it goes against the grain of expectations for traditional femininity. I believe women when they say they're still attracted to their husbands. I believe them when they say they still have good & frequent sex. I don't believe them if they say it's the same as it was in the beginning. In some ways the sex gets better, in some ways worse, but it's not the same. Maybe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:33 PM
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Most women don't make loud noises naturally: researchers asked 71 sexually active women why they vocalize during sex, and they found that 66 percent of women moan simply to speed up their partner’s climax (ouch), and a whopping 87 percent said that they moan to boost his self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:08 PM
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Never, in fact it's harder for me to orgasm when I'm making noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:03 PM
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IDK, it's probably because I grew up in the age of internet porn, but I've always had the expectation that women are supposed to 'perform' in the bedroom. I mean almost nobody makes loud noises when they masturbate, people do it for their partner's benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 12:50 AM
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It's exaggerated. Unless the husband becomes repulsive, women aren't going to be "actively repulsed", just less excited than she used to be. Men also seem to get bored, perhaps to a lesser extent. Of course part of being a good partner means convincingly pretending nothing's changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 12:04 AM
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Personality isn't a minute difference, it's a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 04:14 AM
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You're missing the point. Everyone's an outlier in some way, usually in many ways. You don't meet averages, you don't date averages, you don't form relationships with averages. It makes no sense to treat people as averages unless you're literally meeting them for the first time without knowing anything. Ten minutes into your first conversation you'll already know more about the individual than TRP will ever tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:54 AM
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There aren't any. Lots of women don't even have tits, some biological XX women don't even have vaginas and before you say "but those are outliers," EVERYONE is an outlier in some respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:36 AM
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Nobody understands 'women' just the individual women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:19 AM
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Not really, I'm INTP, I kind of hate myself but I hate other people even more lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 12:50 AM
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A woman needs to have social capital to attract a man of means. She's got to make him look good. Which means looking wealthy even if she's not. Sounding educated even if she's not. Fitting in with his wealthy friends and family. That's how women marry up. Most wealthy men don't care about income, they'll marry yoga instructors and children's book authors. But those women have social capital, and usually come from rich families. They won't marry someone who looks and acts like she's from the ghet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:32 PM
1

That average dumpy women are bombarded with dozens of offers every time they so much as leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:02 AM
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When women act like they have some kind of flawless personality detector, "we can just sense those things" yet I see women in abusive relationships all the time. I mean it can be both, you can see the red flags and ignore them due to low self-esteem or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:59 AM
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They could be average in looks, and below average in charm or effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:53 AM
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I know, it's like they grow up and their soul dies, it's the worst lol. Meeting their dads always freaked me the fuck out, because usually they're uncannily similar, yet the dad is so boring and practical and dreary. And it's like, is THAT what he'll become?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:34 AM
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WHY should an average woman sit around waiting for 2's and 3's to approach when she can go out and get her looks match or someone even BETTER? There won't be any competition, in fact most of them have never been asked out by a woman in their life. They're easy prey, especially the shy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 06:51 PM
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Men only approach 5/10 women for the following reasons: It's the end of the night and he's already struck out with all the better-looking women. He's a 2/10 and thinks she looks 'obtainable'. He thinks she's a 'sure thing' for pump-n-dump. He thinks he can somehow take advantage of her low self-esteem, income, etc. If average women want an actual relationship and not just to get used, they're gonna have to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 06:41 PM
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And our ability to approach is a strength. We choose who we approach. See that's how I always felt about approaching, even if he says 'no,' it's like at least I have an answer, I don't have to waste any more time trying to impress him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 05:02 AM
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A fair number of men are like this, BUT in a crowded room they still won't notice or approach the 5/10, it's on her to make her 'great personality' known to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:45 AM
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Bill sounds like a mess and you sound like a saint. Your plan sounds good. I agree you should make him work out and see a dermatologist, but your biggest obstacle is going to be getting him to act like a normal person lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:37 PM
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Why do you think there's such an imbalance in the casual sex marketplace? It's because most girls don't have casual sex. For every girl willing to have casual sex, there's 10+ dudes. That's why they can pick Chad. Casual sex is unappealing to most women regardless of who it's with. They're not fucking Chad and relegating average guys to boyfriend material. They're just fucking their average boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 08:31 AM
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Have you ever had a woman go nuclear?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:40 AM
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Maybe I got on some guys' nerves, who cares? I also got dates. I'm not scared of rejection like the men on here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:02 AM
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As an 'invisible' woman myself, plain looking women would do well to take some initiative in making men notice them. A 5 woman doesn't have the luxury of sitting around waiting for men to approach (well, unless she's willing to settle for a 2 or 3). Most women figure this out but a few seem to have missed the memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:52 AM
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I'd call it revulsion. That said some straight guys would still fuck a dude or at least receive a BJ from one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 01:55 AM
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Men will fuck women they're not attracted to. If a woman has nice tits but you have to put a bag over her head to fuck her, you're not attracted to her lol. If a woman is invisible to you until she comes up and offers her pussy for free, you're not attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:07 AM
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I'm not even attracted to the majority of women Most men aren't, and are being disingenuous when the say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 11:56 PM
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Average men can't have commitment-free sex with Stacies, just like average women can't marry rich guys and be kept in luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:35 PM
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Women sleep with sub-8's all the time, they're called boyfriends and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:26 PM
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I've never heard a blooper say that would guarantee success. I've heard bloopers say that not treating women as people is likely to cause failure. I've also heard bloopers say there is nothing you can do to guarantee success. That's one of BP's main criticisms of RP - RP makes it seem as though you can do X, Y, and Z and you'll be swimming in pussy. Success in romance is like success in business. There's no one way to succeed, but hundreds of ways to fail. There are plenty of things you can do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:07 AM
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You're right, women are cowards too, and I think that's part of why they've become less receptive. Women are uncomfortable being approached, and it's not because they think the guy is creepy, it's because THEY feel socially awkward talking to a stranger. Both men and women attach all these weird pressures and expectations to every social interaction, a conversation is never just a conversation, a date is never just a date: it's THE BEGINNING OF A RELATIONSHIP. So women won't hang out with a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:34 AM
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High SMV, low RMV. Low-n women have their eyes on the marriage prize. SMV is irrelevant to women who don't have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 05:17 AM
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My behavior is that I'm married and been with the same low-n man for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 05:02 AM
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I make the rules for who I date, and I don't date mansluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 04:51 AM
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Virgin women don't marry mansluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 04:42 AM
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Haven't eaten pasta, bread, or sweets in years (with a few exceptions like my birthday and Christmas). Those are my trigger foods so I don't keep them in the house. I've tried the high protein/low carb thing before and it didn't really help with hunger or tiredness. I've tried stuffing myself with low calorie veggies until I shit green. The only thing that helps is eating more calories, which I obviously can't. I'm not even trying to lose weight, just maintain. If I ate enough to not be hungry I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 11:27 PM
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I'm not even necessarily talking about cold approaches, just like... Making friends and being social. It used to be that most people met their partners through their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:54 PM
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Both of us deciding to pursue our interests instead of the highest paying careers, also living in a city where 6-figures buys a middle-class lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:48 PM
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We both come from wealthy families and now we're middle class, yay downward class mobility lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:44 PM
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I will say some of them certainly seem to recognize class tells in a woman's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 09:33 PM
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No I think it comes from people relying too heavily on dating apps while being little bitches in real life, afraid to approach someone and start a conversation. That goes for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:16 PM
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Healthy isn't good enough, people want to be attractive which means being slightly underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 07:30 AM
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My husband definitely notices that stuff but I'm not going to assume he's typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 07:29 AM
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Here's the problem: Healthy isn't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 07:27 AM
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If someone's being unreasonable who cares what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:43 PM
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It's true because women can appreciate men for more than their looks Assuming they have something else to appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:37 PM
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And not being fat literally takes negative time. What about the time spent cooking healthy food instead of ordering pizza? Not to mention the time spent lying awake at night because your stomach is growling, or the time spent sitting on your ass because you haven't got the energy for anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:15 PM
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Hair just needs to not be bad, anything more is only going to impress women. Same for fashion. Disagree completely, men don't care about the specifics of women's fashion, but they care about the whole picture, and all that stuff is a part of the picture. They won't notice how that haircut flatters her face shape or how that color blouse matches her complexion, they'll just notice she looks good without being able to put their finger on why. But again, none of that will make you top 20%, since mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:58 PM
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Yes, putting in effort doesn't help you that much because all other women are putting in the same amount of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:01 PM
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Marriage. Average men can't have commitment-free sex with beautiful women, they just can't, just like average dumpy women can't marry a hot rich guy and have her life provided for. An average guy can marry an average girl and receive average amounts of sex in exchange for an average amount of provisioning. That's the best deal for him. And for her. Everyone can't have whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 08:50 PM
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Ask people to join your study group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:32 PM
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There's a lot of middle ground. People shouldn't overshare, meaning they shouldn't go into all the boring details of their lives. They should know their audience - don't talk about religion at work, don't make dirty jokes with your in-laws etc. Don't talk so much that other people don't get the chance to speak. But if you're too closed-off people perceive you as inaccessible, unfriendly, and - worst of all - boring. Saying something witty is better than saying something dumb, but saying somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:49 AM
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A little bit of mystery is a good thing but introverts need to be LESS mysterious not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:16 AM
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Nah. Let me guess, are you a straight man? Because it sounds like you're trying to justify your reticence by calling it something different and declaring it attractive. It's like 'stoicism' all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 07:05 AM
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Offering to help is fine but I hate and despise when people just take the suitcase without asking, like I didn't give you permission to put your hands on my belongings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:40 AM
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or r/skincarescience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 06:10 AM
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They don't actually think it's that girly, they're just lazy and use that as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:55 PM
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I already dress well and I'm skilled with makeup to the extent people regularly ask if I do it professionally. I have a masculine bone structure and there's nothing I can do to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 09:52 PM
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It's entirely possible. I have masculine facial bones and my shoulders are broader than most mens'. Everything else about me - body, skin, hair, teeth, style - is arguably above average (after working on it for years). But that's not enough to compensate for my genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:47 AM
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I've had plenty of success, I just had to work hard for it. Improving my looks didn't help me nearly as much as pursuing men aggressively.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:37 AM
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I used to think all I'd have to do was make myself as attractive as possible and men would approach me. Never happened. Maybe I'm still ugly but I think I'm pretty average. I never would've gotten married if I hadn't worked for it. Romance doesn't "just happen". Women, especially average-looking women who say it "just happens" are probably extroverts. From their perspective, it seems like guys approach them "randomly" because socializing and flirting come naturally. They'd do those things anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 10:02 PM
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They're not invisible to their husbands. They're invisible to most men, even most 37 year old overweight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 07:27 AM
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The average US woman is 37 years old frumpy and overweight. What men think of as average is actually above-average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 01:05 AM
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Most women are happy to keep their husbands sexed and satisfied but when it becomes a never ending escalation of weirder and weirder shit This is the worst part. You can't just try something once to see if you like it. If you do it once, he'll start asking for it every time, even if you hated it the first time. Don't ever think that if you give in and try something, he'll stop pestering you about it. The opposite will happen, he'll increase the pestering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:50 PM
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No even when I was a teenager I was never approached by guys my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:28 PM
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An average man is more likely to listened to, believed, and taken seriously than even a beautiful woman. An average woman doesn't even get that far, people don't even hear the words that come out of her mouth let alone believe or consider them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:18 AM
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I often admire my male friends' clothing and appearance and I'd love to be able to complement them on it, but you just can't because most guys will take it as flirting. Not to mention inappropriate for a married woman, which I am. I complement my husband all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:08 AM
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It's annoying to be told I'm lying or I must be fat or otherwise doing something wrong. But I don't mind being unattractive. Sure, if someone offered me free plastic surgery, I'd take it. But I have an enviable life and more confidence than many attractive women. Unlike them I don't have to worry about my world crumbling as my looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:43 AM
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Yeah white women just need to be above average to get some degree of beauty privilege, nonwhite women have to be exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:12 AM
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I doubt it, most women are invisible simply by virtue of their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:08 AM
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I already do all that. Still barely average and invisible to most men. Even when I was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:51 PM
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I exercise every day, do hair and makeup every day, dress nicely, adhere to a strict diet and I'm still barely average and invisible to most men. I'd need radical facial surgery to become a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:38 PM
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Some women have to work hard just to be a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:08 PM
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It's easier for a woman to obtain beauty privilege than a man, but men have other types of privilege to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:07 PM
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You're talking about beauty privilege not female privilege. In order to help someone you first have to notice they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 10:59 PM
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No, I rarely get cold approached and the men who do it are always 45-70 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 10:52 PM
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Botox takes about 3-6 months to dissolve, if you don't like how it looks you can just stop getting it. It's only meant to take 5 or 10 years off your appearance, but people keep going back and asking for more. They're not satisfied with looking 10 years younger, they want to look 25. That's how they end up with frozen faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:27 PM
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Youth = attractive and men are retards for not using skincare. They look ugly AF with wrinkles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:13 PM
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People SHOULD start using anti-aging products at 26 if not earlier. It's much easier to prevent wrinkles than get rid of them once they happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:00 PM
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I've heard this before, but how common is it really? Yes, it takes a lot of TIME to get ready and there's an opportunity cost to that. But I've always done my own hair and nails and I've never bought outfits specifically for dating. Do most women get their hair and nails professionally done before a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:54 AM
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It's better if he isn't because then he'll repel other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:34 PM
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If being a man's equal means being stuck in a cubicle all day staring at a screen and kissing the bossman's ass then I'll pass. Why settle for being equal when you can do better?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:02 AM
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How high are we talking? 140? 160?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:53 AM
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Personality didn't earn me my STEM degree but it's what made me get bored and quit a couple years later lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:44 AM
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Income has more to do with personality than intelligence, INTP's in particular have some of the highest IQ's but are some of the lowest earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:31 AM
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How are you defining 'highly intelligent'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:17 AM
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You know I'm not convinced there's a man in the entire word that has attractive legs. Even the few that can pull off shorts would look better in pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:39 AM
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Personally I say no to neurotic personalities because I'm neurotic and I need someone who can calm me down. My mom was neurotic and whenever I tried to tell her about my problems she'd just continue the spiral of anxiety and make me feel worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:30 AM
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Spends quality time with me and actually enjoys it, doesn't act like it's a chore or spend the evening on his phone. Doesn't try to change or control me. Doesn't talk too much but is interesting when he does. Laid back, doesn't obsess over what people think or what's proper and right. No mama's boys, workaholics or picky eaters, please. I don't know how that relates to personality types or big 5 but my husband fits the bill and he's INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:28 PM
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Being submissive. I'd rather be single. Luckily no one actually has to make that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:05 PM
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If anything women are the ones orbiting gay men, nerdy girls are always crushing on their gay friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:07 AM
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I love timid soft men, they look like snacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:33 PM
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Women who can't find a man usually fall into one of 2 categories. The first category is: Shy, introverted, closed off, distant, guarded, unfriendly. The second category is: Critical, bitchy, fussy, high-maintenance, control freak, perfectionistic, maternal (but in a strict overbearing way). The first group can't find a man at all, the second can find relationships but can't maintain them. Both groups are often anxious or depressed. If you're in the first group: Stop being those things. Some men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:31 PM
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You should marry your spouse at 25-29 which means you start dating them at 20-25. Most people realize 27 is the average marriage age, but seem to forget marriage doesn't just happen, it's the culmination of YEARS of dating, cohabiting and engagement. If you marry at 27, you're actually leaving the dating market much earlier than that. Age 16-22 is just practice relationships and doesn't really matter, people in that age group can do whatever they want as long as they're not dumb enough to get pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:52 PM
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It can be done without dating older men, all the guy's I've dated were enthusiastic to commit before sex. Granted I didn't get a car lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:48 PM
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In order for him to be lucky, other men would have to be jealous of his situation. Plenty of men probably are TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:46 PM
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Why are you only going on 3-4 dates in 2 months? They should be wanting to hang out with you every weekend AT LEAST. And talking/texting in between. It sounds like you're going out with guys who aren't that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:44 PM
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You seem to be confusing 'attractive' with 'ideal'. Most guys that aren't old, fat, or skinnyfat are pleasing to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 03:00 AM
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I don't know what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 02:40 AM
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Well I go to a specialized gym, there's not a lot of lifting going on. Most of the guys aren't muscular, they look great because they're healthy. When 60% are fat the standard for looking good isn't that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 02:12 AM
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95% of the guys I see at the gym have great bodies and the other 5% are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:56 AM
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You don't understand how female attraction works, even 10's don't make panties wet by looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 08:26 PM
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Why is it that, regardless of the number of chaotic realationships, do women seem to simultaneously "get it" right around the magical ages of 27-33? Do they? Most women are already married by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:08 PM
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You have to have very delicate features to have short hair and still look feminine. If your facial features are masculine/androgynous at all, you'll look like a boy and most women don't want to look like boys. Older women are more likely to have short hair because their hair becomes thin and looks stringy if they leave it long.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 08:08 PM
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Boys and girls who go to separate schools become socially stunted incels who can't interact with the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:52 PM
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Some people have 13" shoulders and some people have 18" shoulders at the same height, the difference is significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:24 AM
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Hell, just look at skinny people, you can literally see the different sizes and shapes of their bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:11 AM
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is a loving, supportive, and good person who is willing to wait for sex until a serious relationship or marriage happens and isn't manipulative or abusive or tempermental Really, this is the only thing that's difficult to find. All the others are easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:01 PM
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I've always had a flat stomach and the biggest part of me is my boobs, I'm just WIDE (big shoulders, big pelvis) and those parts of me don't get any narrower no matter how much weight I lose. The good thing about having a large frame is your body can 'hide' extra weight much more easily, the bad thing is that you'll never look small because your bones will never be small. With clothes on, I look much the same at a BMI of 21 and 25 because the width and overall proportions don't change. Without c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 07:37 PM
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I think what stems women from dieting down and attempting to stay there are due to other women’s compliments. Nah it's not complements that give people poor body image, it's insults both from men and women. People called me fat at a BMI of 21, when I had visible hip bones sticking out due to my large and massive bone structure. people called me fat all my life (starting at age 5 or 6) simply for having a broad build.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:54 AM
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I genuinely fancy men who rescue ducklings from sewers You're not alone, I'm def hairy and mannish though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 10:50 PM
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Not the person you asked but to me it means someone who literally just does whatever they want most of the time. Uninhibited, someone who follows their authentic impulse and doesn't apologize for it. That COULD mean sex drugs rock n roll but not necessarily, not everyone likes those things and the whole point is doing what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:51 AM
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Trust their actions not their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:17 AM
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Ya know who loves bad girls? Good boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:40 AM
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I don't care what he calls himself, all I care about is how he treats me and other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:28 AM
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Most women don't and will never have hourglass figures. Even most celebrities don't, and they've got unlimited access to personal trainers and plastic surgery. They can try to fake it with flattering clothes, posing, and photoshop, but the paparazzi beach photos give them away. A lot of it comes down to bone structure, the angle of your ribcage, the size and shape of your pelvis, the width of your shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:22 PM
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Someone willing to lead most of the time who still gives her veto power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:54 PM
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Honestly, she doesn't have to pick. She can find a guy who'll give her both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:29 AM
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I think some of them are just really man-brained, conservative women tend to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 06:59 AM
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By fucking other sluts obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:43 AM
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That's what masturbation is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:15 PM
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Girls don't like mansluts because they're gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 09:09 PM
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Only if the man is happily married / in a relationship with a woman he likes more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:15 AM
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I'm the opposite, I can't have PIV orgasms and I've never had casual sex. I might've been more likely to have casual sex if it were easier to orgasm. Knowing I probably won't, it's kinda like, what's the point. I've cheated though. Cheating for women usually isn't about the sex. For me personally, I wanted to leave the old relationship but wanted to secure a new partner first (ie branch swing), so I wouldn't have to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:24 AM
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Nobody WANTS to live in expensive areas (except rich people I guess), they live there because that's where their job is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:45 AM
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No I don't consider it dishonest unless you lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:55 AM
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Nah, the body you create is a better reflection of your 'true self' than the genetics you got stuck with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:14 PM
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Once every 2 years by 70 year old guys that may or may not be homeless lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:06 PM
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Let's be honest, most women will never have perfect skin for a day in their life, doesn't matter if they're 17, 24, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:48 AM
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Probably, my husband would deserve half my business if we divorced. People who've never owned businesses don't realize how beneficial it is to have a supportive spouse (and family etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:26 AM
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Mail order brides from Easter Europe and Asia don't try to hide their intentions at all, they're totally honest about wanting to marry for money because in their cultures it's acceptable to marry for money. Yet men still delude themselves because they want a young hot wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:15 AM
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Not OP but I also don't like pushy or dominant men. I'm the one who initiates most of the time. Not always because I'm horny, sometimes I do it because we haven't had sex in a few days and now's as good a time as any. My husband has the higher libido so I try to initiate as often as he'd want. I actually think it makes much more sense for the lower-libido party to initiate, then the HL one won't be pestering them for sex (which is a huge turn-off).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:54 PM
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I guess the contradiction is that if every woman demanded the same as her (a man who earns more than them), it'd be impossible for everyone to find one without a wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:11 PM
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Usually when people get called tryhards it means they're trying too hard to impress other people, not like trying to improve at their hobbies or something. Comes across as shallow desperate social climbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:57 AM
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Because women are less delusional than men. Men fool themselves into thinking their 20 year old sugar babies are actually attracted to them, women know he's just along for the ride and eventually he'll leave them for someone younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:51 AM
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I said 'long term' relationships as in those lasting at least a few years. Someone in her early 20's isn't gonna have more than 3 or 4, not 'too many' IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:32 PM
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Don't use dating apps. Dating apps are for casual sex. Ergo you'll find a lot of women who enjoy casual sex. Look for serial monogamists, the kind of women who go from LTR to LTR, who haven't been single for more than a few months since they were 16. Yes, those women get snapped up quickly by definition. Again, they won't be on dating apps. Hell, you can try to poach a woman in a failing relationship, lots of guys do it, but don't invest a lot of time because there's always the chance she won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:33 PM
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It doesn't, really what men should do is stop using their money as woman-bait. But they won't because then they'd have to date women in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:45 AM
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I agree most men are horribly insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:50 PM
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None of the women in my life are like that, and you know why? Because if someone annoys me, I don't talk to them again. If needy women annoy you, next them until you find a woman that's not needy. If I can find multiple low-maintenance female friends then you can find 1 low-maintenance girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:49 PM
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When your man is in a bad mood you obviously want to cheer him up, but you can't make it obvious you're trying to do that, because then it's like you're pressuring him to feel better and that just makes him feel bad about feeling bad, IDK maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:11 PM
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Hmm here is a short list of things different men have gotten mad at me for: Liking a book he didn't like Calling him cute, men aren't supposed to be cute or something He sucks at assembling Ikea furniture and somehow that's my fault NOT going through his phone (if I really cared about him, I would?) I could go on but I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:01 PM
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Women are constantly handling men's emotions in ways they don't even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:23 PM
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Except for crying, men do all those things more than women and they do them while masturbating about how logical and stoic they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:12 PM
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Lol that doesn't sound like an emotional woman, that sounds like a woman pragmatically manipulating men into taking care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:11 PM
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Adult men are more moody and emotional than teenaged girls on their periods. They really don't suppress their emotions at all, I mean maybe they try but they usually fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:27 PM
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Why are you going after women who've already graduated, just date the girls in your college classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:16 AM
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There's no such thing as 'enough'. You can't buy a man's love by being young and pretty or by being nice or cooking for him or doing his chores or giving blowjobs or being submissive or raising his kids. People either love you or they don't. So many women do all that shit and their husbands still dump them for some rude ugly slut who does none of it just because she's new.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:52 PM
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I still hate everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:32 AM
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I agree, 'demisexual' is just regular people, especially regular women with typical female sexuality, pretending to be special snowflakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:01 AM
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If the tables were turned, a lot of guys would react badly too. if a woman was slutty and submissive with low self esteem, but then got into therapy and set boundaries and learned to say no a lot of guys who manipulated and fucked her in the past would be upset too. Happens quite a lot in abusive relationships. People don't like talking about it because there's this revenge fantasy of the woman finally kicking her abuser's ass to the curb. But a lot of the time, it's actually the abuser who dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:49 AM
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That doesn't mean they enjoy feeling patronized or are attracted to men because those men make them feel patronized. Really most people (including men) are willing to be patronized if they can get some other benefits out of it. Consider all the men out there who want mommywives to do their chores and comfort and take care of them, that shit is patronizing AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:46 PM
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Why does the article treat it as either/or? Every woman knows 'woke' men can be sexist, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:04 PM
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I've dated sexists and feminists, macho guys and femme guys, sweet guys and mean guys. All very different both in looks and personality. And it's always the same story. Doesn't matter what type of guy you date, jealous men will ALWAYS see them as big dumb neanderthals.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:47 PM
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This is just the updated "women only date assholes", nerds have been saying the same shit since I was in high school (at least). Really men demonize their competition. Do you know how many times my sweet accommodating husband has been called an "asshole," "controlling" etc. by jealous men over the years?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:28 PM
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why should someone else who doesn’t feel the same way about marriage as you do get married? They shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 08:58 AM
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IMO shaming isn't a critique on someone's actions, it's an attack on who they are as a person, it's not "your actions are bad because reasons," it's "you're bad and you should feel bad."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:08 AM
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I don't get it either, he was repulsive to me, in fact there's not a single likable character on that show IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:59 AM
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It's not just about what they look like, it's about women's perceptions of their personalities based on what they look like. Yes, ugly men can 'look creepy' but the flip side is that classically handsome men can 'look gay' or dumb or boring or 'look like a douche,' especially when you take things like style and body language into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:31 AM
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3 or 4 if you include oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:45 AM
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Women police other women's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:25 PM
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Everyone's got a checklist but the checklist goes out the window as soon as she meets a guy who doesn't meet her requirements but turns her on anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:21 AM
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I'm not familiar with big 5, my ex was ESTP but he was definitely a conscientious person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 01:43 AM
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Women don't have a "one that got away," we only trade up not down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:33 PM
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I'm gonna go with ESTP, my ex was this and he always had women throwing themselves at him despite being 5'6" and having chin pubes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:25 PM
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It's not about being a systemizer, it's about demonizing people who hurt you. Women do it too, but in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 05:13 AM
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No idea, I wasn't going to ask about my parents' sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:58 AM
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I'm in my 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 12:58 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 12:55 AM
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"Personality matters more" doesn't imply looks can't be a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:41 PM
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But that's not what they did when they were dating. Not true, they both claim it was normal at the time. Aunts and uncles corroborate. I never dated more than one person at a time and they all thought it was weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:13 PM
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you went on a date only if you were not dating anyone else My parents are your age and they always said the opposite, they always encouraged me to date multiple people. You weren't supposed to have sex with any of them, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:05 PM
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Yeah that's why I said "almost anything", bras are another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:02 PM
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True but there are 2 different remedies for this: make everyone conform or teach everyone to distinguish themselves. If everyone's different, no one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 07:44 AM
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Anything related to fashion. Almost anything currently considered womenswear has been worn by men at some point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 07:36 AM
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Women hate women like that, too. They rarely have friends because they think other women are 'jealous' of them (really they're projecting their own buried insecurity).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:09 AM
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It depends on what you mean by woke. Feminist, yes. Liberal, sure. The problem with a lot of 'woke' people is that they're obsessed with APPEARING progressive and being that obsessed with appearances would put me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:03 PM
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She said several times she'd expect women to do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:58 PM
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Women: Communicate directly Men: Listen to women when they communicate directly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:04 PM
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some guys can apparently not only think they're being nice when they're totally not being nice, but walk away from that situation with the belief that somehow their problem is that they're too nice. Yep the female equivalent is the woman who thinks she's just TOO smart and successful and attractive, other women are jealous and men are intimidated, and that's why everyone hates her (not because she's a narcissist).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:58 PM
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No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:34 AM
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People with a genetic predisposition for introversion migrated here (also Scandinavia) because they were trying to avoid other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:16 AM
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Yay because then I don't have to be pregnant or give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:26 AM
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Yes I think some people thought less of me after meeting some of the guys I had LTR's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:47 AM
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Not nearly as bad as having a real relationship with a low-value man. If it's just 1 night you can blame it on alcohol or poor judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:39 AM
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What's the goal of discussing male nature, if it's not about getting women to acquiesce to it in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:36 AM
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I don't think it's controversial to say men and women are biologically different, I think it's controversial when men start using male nature as an excuse to do things like cheat on women and harass them. It's not a good excuse, everyone has to suppress their nature and most people do. If dogs can be trained not to hump people's legs, so can adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 09:28 PM
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Ok. So what? People suppress their true nature all the time. Everyone has to do it every day when they go to work, or parties, or participate in society in pretty much any capacity. If a dog wants 3 meals a day and a roof over its head, it has to stop biting people and humping their legs. If men want to date, fuck, marry, and socialize with women, they have to play ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 09:22 PM
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Tell everyone you're 10 years older than you are. Then they'll be like "wow, you look so young for 45!" Also find a dominant woman and be her puppy dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:36 PM
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Nah, it's about 50%. 80% if you can afford plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 01:43 AM
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I am both, I prefer approaching because it makes me feel more in control of the situation. That way I can corner them when they're alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:38 PM
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Oh god I hate being adorable, I'd rather be teased or ignored than treated like a pet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:08 PM
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Your score is 28 out of 36. Your score is equal or better than 64% of all participants. Better than I expected TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:05 PM
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I'm shy and I like guys that are even quieter. I don't have a problem making the first move, I actually prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:21 AM
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Women are not stingy with complements, they complement each other all the time. I would love to be able to complement my male friends, but when I've done it they always thought I was hitting on them. Now I hold my tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:06 AM
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Most people know more waiters than sex workers, and have no way of knowing if they're reporting their income since they're not actually friends or acquaintances. It's like ignoring the thief currently running away with your wallet and going down to Walmart to try and spot shoplifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:33 PM
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If you wouldn't do it for free, it's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:49 AM
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Everyone I know is an introvert who has like 2 friends and doesn't talk about anything personal. My husband didn't even tell anybody when he lost his virginity at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 09:17 AM
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I know nothing about my best friends' sex lives let alone random acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:52 AM
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Lots of men are widowed right out of the gate by their moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:37 AM
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I doubt she's any different than a typical human female, Bart is probably more charismatic than a typical human male. The average woman is willing to overlook a multitude of sins as long as the guy is fun, charming, and socially adroit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:29 AM
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How would you find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:15 AM
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Are they also gonna start reporting waiters to the IRS? Let's be real, almost every waiter out there under-reports their income from tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:40 AM
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It's extremely likely to be successful as long as you don't have pics/videos floating around. Unless you live in a small town, he'll probably never see or meet another of your previous conquests. If he does, it'll be your word against theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 08:03 PM
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Malls are for old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 07:12 PM
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50% of the rent on a bigger, nicer place is still less than 100% of the rent on a studio.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:39 AM
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Women always worked they just weren't paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:30 AM
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"best of... [their] partner" He sees it as her best. But from a woman's perspective, when she was hung up on Chad, that was her at her worst. Why would a woman want to go back to being her worst self? The self that's desperate, that's afraid to say "no"? What kind of man would ask that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:14 PM
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Yeah the standards for teenagers are different than adults, 'fat' doesn't mean overweight it means fatter than your skinny teenaged peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 10:14 PM
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They don't want a housewife, they want a woman who works and pays for half of everything, but also does all the chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:43 AM
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RP - Be attractive, don't be unattractive. BP - If you attract women by acting like someone else, you'll never find a woman that's attracted to your true self.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:24 AM
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Being healthy isn't good enough, you're supposed to be skinny and if you're not skinny then you're fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:26 AM
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Fat moms are just as bad as skinny moms, they pick on their daughters weight because they don't want the daughters to grow up fat like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 12:10 AM
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Same, people started calling me fat when I was around 8 (I wasn't) and this persisted throughout high school (still wasn't). Guys wonder why normal-weight girls think they're fat, but it's because other people literally tell us we're fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:11 PM
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Equality will ALWAYS depend on how you frame your comparison. Sure, but here the only frame of comparison that matters is that of the 2 people in the relationship. If they both feel like their relationship is equal (ie nobody feels like they're getting taken advantage of), then it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:18 PM
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That was me, I enjoyed my major when I was in school, but ended up hating the daily realities of it. It's a shame there aren't more internships for freshmen, sophomores, or even HS students. If I'd gotten one sooner, I probably would've changed my major.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:45 AM
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It could be a problem with how they were educated as well, like maybe they'd fare better if their education was more project-based instead of lecture-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:36 AM
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No but I actively seek friendship, and some of those guys have tried to become orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:15 AM
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Yeah when I said 'giving' and 'taking' I don't just mean money or chores or w/e, but also intangibles like giving up your autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:44 AM
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Unless you have a tit for tat situation, you have a subjective appreciation of the value that each one brings to the relationship. Subjective value is what allows both partners to feel like they're getting a good deal. And people who feel like they're getting a good deal generally don't feel the need to keep score.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:30 AM
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We do what we're best at and we cover for each other's weaknesses. That sounds equal to me? Why do people think equal means "the same" or "tit for tat"? To me an "unequal" relationship is one-sided, one person gives and the other person takes. If both partners contribute, even if they're contributing in completely different ways, it's equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 03:47 AM
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So while a more proportional shorter statured man might look better, a stockier/broader individual might offset any hangups a woman might have about size and masculinity. I just don't want a guy that weighs less than me, it makes me feel fat. I'd rather be with a short guy who weighs more than me than a tall skinny guy who weighs less (though I like the look of skinny guys). I wonder if other women are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:05 PM
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Being quiet is a positive for me, I hate people who talk too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 07:28 PM
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If it was a wife-centered environment, I could dominate it. But as it is child-centered, I cannot. You say that like it's a given, but your lives shouldn't revolve around your child. It's not good for your marriage OR for the child. I don't know how, but you need to get your wife on board with putting yourselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 10:14 AM
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Well I don't want to date a guy that's so desperate for my approval that he agrees with eveything I say. How can you respect a person like that? It's projection, lots of men want that in a girlfriend and don't care about having a partner they can respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:27 PM
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Masculine men don't understand anything other than direct speech and action. If they're manipulative it's in the same way a cat or dog can be manipulative, it's not conscious on their part and very easy to see through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:20 PM
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Manly men aren't manipulative, they're not even capable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 10:14 PM
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Bad hygiene, rude, pushy, cocky, dumb, boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:10 PM
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Predators look for prey, not for other predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:04 PM
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Well hopefully by then there'll be a pill you can take for weight loss that doesn't also cause heart attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:05 AM
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what traits/habits do you have that you don't respect in others? Being so afraid of failure that it prevents me from trying at all. If you've overcome it/them, what was the process like and how did it impact your life afterwards? I'm still afraid of failure, I just ignore my feelings and do it anyways. And that's honestly what it is a lot of the time. People ask "how can I become more motivated?" You can't. Just ignore your feelings and do it anyways. The feeling of motivation will come later, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:34 PM
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Never said it's not well-paying. Some jobs are worse than the cycle of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:22 PM
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I wasn't talking about millennials. I'm a millennial. I was talking about the younger generation, don't know what they're called, the ones currently in HS and college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:08 PM
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You can't expect the world to be easy and coast on it and never have to have strife You don't start a business if you're expecting to coast by in life. I mean you can but it'll be over quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:54 AM
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It's a black hole they're never going to get out of. That is true, however so is being an actuary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:55 AM
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Millennials pursued self-employment because of the shitty economy, not in spite of it. It wasn't because they all wanted to be rich snowflakes who ride their scooters into work at 11am (as boomers would suggest). It's because they could only find shitty part-time jobs which were insufficient to pay off their loans and get out of mom's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:35 AM
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Old lady rant incoming. The younger generation honestly seems like a bunch of squares obsessed with doing things the 'right' way and terrified of making mistakes. And it kinda makes sense, they're the first generation to live their entire lives under the threat of having your mistakes broadcast for everyone to see. They largely don't drink, party, or do drugs. They choose their hobbies based on what looks good on college applications. They won't have sex unless you wear 3 condoms, take birth con…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:00 AM
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Stephanie Seymour already had 2 kids by the time she started modeling for VS in 1995, Daniela Pestova had a kid in 1996 and became an Angel in 1997.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:19 PM
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Not true, several of the original 90's angels were moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 07:36 AM
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I don't think VS is a good example, they have other concerns besides attractiveness to men. They wanted to choose models who could appear sexy without being slutty, which is why they cultivated the "angels" image and hired lots of married women and moms. Being older and have a husband/kids makes them seem more wholesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:59 PM
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I don't find RP principles any more or less applicable in my relationships with men vs women. This. Some RP principles are bullshit but the ones that work, work on men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:46 PM
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Most of these ring true to me except the ones about appearance. Ugly guys have fewer opportunities to cheat but they're just as likely to take those opportunities when they arise. He forgets which stories he’s told you. Very true and less obvious than the rest of this list.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 01:34 PM
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Also the dress code is enforced differently based on what you look like. Fat girls and large breasted girls are told to cover up more than thin, pretty, small-breasted ones. Cheerleaders are allowed to wear their uniforms to school, even though the uniforms are often outside of dress code.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 11:38 PM
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Not a man, but honestly it seems like most people's marriage gets worse after they have kids. I'm not saying people shouldn't have kids. But I can't understand why they continue having MORE kids after the first one makes their lives shittier. Having a kid is like dropping a bomb in your marriage, and instead of picking the pieces and rebuilding, it's like people say "fuck it, let's just keep dropping more bombs". It defies logic. Just because someone grows up with this dream of having 2, 3, or 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:45 PM
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Try to focus on enjoying the conversation instead of viewing the conversation as a means to an end. It'll take some of the pressure off. If you're too nervous to talk to pretty girls, talk to ugly ones. It's not like you have to marry them. It's just to get you more comfortable with socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 05:40 AM
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I think it's a misinterpretation of old-school dating strategy. Traditional dating advice tells men to "treat the whore like a lady, treat the lady like a whore". But what does that really mean? All women can't be categorized as ladies and whores. You've also got prom queens, artists, stoners, hippies, class presidents, whatever. The point is to treat them like their opposite archetype. And it works on guys too: treat the jock like a nerd, treat the nerd like a jock. It works because the whore i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 04:49 AM
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Um for me it's more about NOT doing certain things that would make me lose respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:45 PM
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I think it depends on whether those late 20's people are divorced and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:54 AM
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Husband/wife material doesn't need to be trained because they want to accommodate you. They anticipate your needs and make adjustments to their behaviors accordingly. If you have to nag or manipulate them into it, they're not husband/wife material and probably won't ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:44 AM
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You'd be surprised at the number of times this has happened to me. Men think men have to make all the moves, because when women make moves they don't notice or it doesn't count. My husband is like this. If you asked him who initiates sex more often, he'd say it was him. He'll say it's him even when I walk over to his computer desk, sit down on his lap and make out with him while rubbing his body underneath his clothes. But he's the first person to physically stick the P in the V, so to him that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:26 AM
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What do the muscular torso and skinny torso look like though? Like I'd choose A over B but I'd rather have C.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 01:26 AM
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Average AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 01:13 AM
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You can shave the neckbeard off your face but you can't hide the neckbeard in your soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 12:00 AM
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I agree men should be taught to be wary of women, just as women are taught to be wary of men. I agree men should be taught how to vet women, just as women are taught how to vet men. However I don't see a lot of redpill advice about vetting, instead I see them saying "AWALT". If "AWALT" then vetting is pointless. If "AWALT" then you might as well just settle for a shitty partner, or go MGTOW. Women who were abused as children often end up being abused as adults, why is that? It's because they thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 10:15 PM
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Yeah, they're perfectly fine with only men in power seeing them as wonderful and showering them in free stuff and leniency. Only if they don't see those men as serious prospects, I think. If they're just using him for the free stuff, then sure. Do whatever's going to get you the most free stuff. I don't think most women want their husbands to pedestalize them. Being on a pedestal means having to maintain frame. I think most people want to be with someone who accepts even the strangest and uglies…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 09:43 PM
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I know a lot of good men with shitty women, and good women with shitty men. And I truly wish all the good guys would just date the good girls and leave all the shitty people to make each other miserable. And sometimes they do, but most people stay with shitty partners way longer than they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 09:04 PM
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I never said that only a 'tiny minority' of women managed to participate in the job market. Most women participated in some capacity, but it was often limited. It's true that only a 'tiny minority' of women became very wealthy, but the same could be said for men. Whether or not men were 'successful' depends on how you define their objectives. If the goal was to unilaterally ban and exclude women from the job market, they failed at that. If their goal was for women, on average, to have less econo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 08:32 PM
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Again, there's no contradiction. Some women can be empowered even while others are oppressed. Some can be oppressed and then overcome that oppression. Some can't, through no fault of their own. Just because things aren't horrible for everyone 100% of the time, it doesn't mean the world is a perfect egalitarian utopia, either. I mean you realize nothing is ever that black and white, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 08:04 PM
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Show me where I said it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:46 PM
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My group also dated like musical chairs. Sometimes it was awkward but generally no big deal. And I never really got the bros over hoes or chicks over dicks mentality, sometimes the person you're dating is your best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 02:59 AM
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In my opinion yes, but some people just don't want that. Some guys want to be bosses and some women want to be princesses and you can't force them to want anything different. And they'll probably find what they're looking for, but that type of relationship inevitably breeds resentment IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 02:28 AM
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Not every tall woman has model proportions, some of them have linebacker shoulders, man hands etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 02:22 AM
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I mean clearly she doesn't value human life so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:03 AM
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mens role in civilization You're assuming she values modern civilization, maybe she doesn't, not everyone does. Maybe she thinks the planet would be better off if most people died and the remainder went back to living in mud huts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 11:55 PM
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"I want to be able to bully people, but I don't want people to call it bullying or act like it's bullying." Bullies and abusers are not that self-aware, they genuinely see themselves as the victims in everything, they think calling them bullies is the bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 08:24 PM
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I think you're thinking about this the wrong way. Christianity emphasizes 'faith' but many religions don't. For some people, it's not about 'belief' at all. It's about utility. They think it adds something to their life and don't care if it's true or not. Maybe it makes them feel powerful, or gives them a community to participate in, or maybe they just think it's fun. If their 'beliefs' stopped serving them, they'd give it up or change to something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 07:57 PM
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It's not common, but women are still expected to take precautions against stranger rape, and most do. Why wouldn't men do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 07:51 PM
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Of course most aren't bad, but you can't tell the difference unless you know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 07:50 PM
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You don't have to, I can't say I've ever felt that way though. I've been friends with plenty of guys I've had crushes on. Usually the crush just goes away when you meet a new guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 06:15 AM
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Why do you assume she doesn't want to be friends? Maybe she does, but she's afraid you can't handle it. Most guys don't or can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:35 AM
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Maybe she's afraid you'll mistake her friendship for romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:02 AM
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What if she actually does want to be friends and invites you to hang out and such?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 04:31 AM
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Men SHOULD be afraid of women, but I think some guys are afraid for the wrong reasons. There are MUCH worse things a woman could do to you than calling you a creep or even a rapist. For example there's the well-known scam of an attractive women luring men with the promise of sex, while her friends wait in the shadows to beat him up and steal all his shit. Women can be stalkers, rapists, abusers, and murderers and THAT's what men should be afraid of. Not being called a creep or w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:43 AM
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If you bring a friend, it's not a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:28 PM
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I can live without humans but not without pets lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 01:23 AM
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I live mostly in solitude and love it that way. I wish I could live in a cabin in the middle of nowhere with my husband and pets, but unfortunately he's got a real job and stuff. Also if we lived in a cabin together, he'd be around all the time and I dunno if I'd like that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 11:02 PM
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Not fantasize per se, but I'm attracted to all the average and above-average looking ones. So at least 50%. If they're my friends then I already find their personalities attractive, so if their bodies are attractive too, then I'm attracted to them. With how many would you actually have sex given the opportunity? Probably none, there's been instances where I've wanted to, but didn't want to create drama in my group. How many would you want to date or have a romantic relationship with if the oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 06:58 PM
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"He's a ghost and I'm the only one who can see and interact with him. I'm basically his only option." Read that book in HS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 07:25 AM
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Lots of women seem to like Andy in Parks and Rec.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 07:22 AM
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Sure, I like dumb loyal guys who admire and follow you around like a puppy. But I like smart competent ones too. They each serve their purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 07:10 AM
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Wanting to leave the relationship, but wanting to secure a new partner first (ie branch swinging).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 02:31 AM
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Yeah it's like after 35 you can't be the protagonist anymore, the best you can hope for is to be the protagonist's nagging mom or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 02:25 AM
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I also feel like an 18-year-old dressing up and pretending to be an adult - but honestly, it doesn't really bother me. Part of being an adult means YOU get to decide what that means. You don't have to start being all boring and practical just because that's what other people are doing. You're gonna have to make peace with the wrinkles eventually, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 02:17 AM
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Show me where I said it was pointless. There's no contradiction. Oppression stacks the odds against you - increases risk, lowers your chances for success, makes it so you have to work twice as hard to get half as far. It blocks the paths to success, so you have to forge new ones. It makes many people feel like there's no point in trying. But there's always been individuals who still succeeded in spite of all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 11:28 PM
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Probably, I mean people treat women as if they're mentally ill so...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 02:32 AM
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They think Carrie deserves Mr Big. Lol Mr Big is a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 01:40 AM
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In general yes, but if her words contradict her actions then you should trust her actions more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 12:54 AM
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My husband is INTJ and he seems interested to talk about almost anything, including relationship stuff. I'm INTP and I'd like to be interested, but can't help zoning out sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 12:52 AM
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I mean you realize rights can be abolished, too, right? You mention Rome, but married women in Italy weren't granted separate economy until 1919. France went back and forth on inheritance rights. For the US, England, and most of Western Europe, separate economy happened (hopefully permanently) in the 1800's. Before that, a married man and woman were considered as 1 financial entity, and the man owned and controlled that entity. In England, even a woman's intellectual property became her husband'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 05:41 AM
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The only guys who seem happy supporting SAHM's are the ones who genuinely like their jobs and don't see working as a burden. Most people hate their jobs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 11:34 PM
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Married women couldn't, anything they earned defaulted to their husband. Married women didn't gain property rights until the 1800's in the US and Europe. Widows always had more rights than married or single women, though they were often limited in what they could inherit. Edit: This is how the tradition of expensive engagement rings got started, often jewelry was the only thing of value a woman could legally own & control, it was an insurance policy in case your husband left you destitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 07:54 PM
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Who gives a shit about society? It makes sense to keep red pill knowledge hidden if you think you've got some trade secret that will give you an advantage in the sexual market. If everyone has the same advantage, it's not an advantage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 06:48 PM
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I like taller men because most of them weigh more than me, while still being skinny. I like skinny guys, but I don't want a guy that weighs less than me, that makes me feel fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 06:37 PM
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They did, women owned businesses even when they couldn't legally own money or property. But operating illegally carries inherent risks, your opportunities are more limited, it's not equal. Feminism is about equality so...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 06:23 PM
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How does it hurt them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 06:21 PM
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So explain it to me. How do you keep a group out of the job market? Because people have already tried it all. Making it illegal doesn't work. Collective discrimination in hiring doesn't work. Boycotts don't work. Even slaves came up with ways of earning money in secret. The only thing that kind of works is physical separation, rounding them up and holding them prisoner. Even then you still have black markets in prison. You can keep people out of the mainstream market, but the only way to prevent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 05:42 PM
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I agree, women can get much better partners if they're willing to be proactive. They're too lazy or scared of rejection I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 05:00 AM
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IDK, I can only assume they wanted love, marriage, and a family and had to settle for what they could get. Some women seem to adore their shitty husbands though, I can't explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:47 AM
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the quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward. I mean personally I don't think people deserve praise for being born smart or talented, they deserve to be rewarded for things they've worked for. Praising children for their innate gifts makes them arrogant and lazy, and I don't think adults are much different TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:29 AM
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Lol most men don't pay the bills, they expect you to take responsibility for all the housewife duties while also working full-time and paying for 50% of everything. The ones who support SAHM's mostly hate and resent having to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:25 AM
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Lip service isn't the same as valuing something, when you value something you're willing to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 02:53 AM
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Incels can buy sex with their govt. dole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 01:42 AM
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given equal opportunities Why would we give people equal opportunities? You don't give out wheelchairs to all the kids, just the ones that need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:43 PM
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What happened in the past when women and minority races were kept out of the job market - they started their own businesses and worked for each others' businesses, legally or illegally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:29 PM
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If you accept biological differences, you accept unequal outcomes. How does that follow? Seems like it should be the opposite. If everyone's got equal potential, then life is basically a meritocracy, and if someone fails it's because of their choices. If you think everyone's got unequal potential, then some people will fail through no fault of their own, because of how they were born - and that doesn't seem fair, that seems like they should be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:57 PM
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Also masculinity and femininity are relative, they could be dating a masculine woman but still see her as feminine because she's more feminine than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:38 PM
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Lots of men are currently dating or married to masculine women, but they don't see it. They they think if a woman has long hair and wears makeup, she's feminine. But she's still got that man-brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:34 PM
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You're thinking about this the wrong way. Men view women like a lioness views a gazelle, they're not gonna go after the strongest and fastest, they're gonna go after the runty baby with a withered leg that straggles behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of value. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do that by asking men out. Or by sending signals to let guys know that if they ask you out, you'll definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:29 PM
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As a man I was extremely confused when you said that femininity is disdained, as it's not really a typical mindset for men. Really? Most men don't even want to watch a 90-minute movie about feminine women let alone share their lives with one. Maybe disdain is a bit strong but men are bored by feminine women and look down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:15 PM
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As a man I was extremely confused when you said that femininity is disdained, as it's not really a typical mindset for men. Really? Men don't even want to watch a 90-minute movie about feminine women let alone hang out with one for the rest of their lives. Maybe disdain is a bit strong but men are bored by feminine women and look down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:50 PM
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As a man I was extremely confused when you said that femininity is disdained, as it's not really a typical mindset for men. Really? Men don't even want to watch a 90-minute movie about feminine women let alone hang out with one for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:48 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how a lioness sees lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:42 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how a lioness sees lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:38 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how a lioness sees lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:35 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how lionesses see lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:31 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how lionesses see lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:31 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how lionesses see lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:30 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how lionesses see lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:29 PM
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You're thinking about it the wrong way, women see men like how lionesses see lions, they want the strongest most high value male, but men see women like a lioness sees a gazelle, they go after the gimpy runt with the twisted leg that limps behind the rest of the pack. You shouldn't be thinking about it in terms of 'value' at all. You can make yourself more attractive to men by making yourself more available to men. You can do it by asking men out. Or by sending signals to the guy you like that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:29 PM
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"Personality matters more" doesn't imply looks can't be a dealbreaker, if looks are worth 40% of the exam and personality is worth 60%, you can get 60% based on personality but that's still a failing grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:58 PM
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You're thinking of a guy who looks groomed, but you can be groomed without looking groomed. Like I spend 15 minutes every morning trying to make my hair look messy, but messy in a good way. Looking 'effortlessly' attractive takes effort. Wearing moisturizer and sunscreen isn't gonna make anyone look gay, it'll just prevent them from looking old and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:49 AM
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I can make friends, but I don't enjoy spending time with people and often feel like I'm faking it. How can I learn to enjoy other people's company?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:44 AM
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Honestly no, I'm low-energy, not outgoing, I zone out during conversations, and I don't like attention even if it's positive attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:11 AM
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Any sources for how I can change my attachment style? I take forever to open up to people and tend to feel smothered by normal amounts of attention and closeness. I think I'm fearful-avoidant. I've got a close relationship with my husband, but he's the only person I trust, and if he dumped me or died, I'd be totally alone in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:27 PM
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Yes, but it's not just about feeling inferior to men, a lot of women feel inferior to other women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:49 PM
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I think women look better because they put more effort in, on average they have better hair skin teeth hygiene etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:53 PM
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Probably not, which is why I think the question is kinda ridiculous. Most people ignore most people regardless of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:52 PM
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IDK how, I've been on public healthcare before and somehow ended up having to pay for everything out of pocket anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:51 AM
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A lot more than 31% of men ignore me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:44 AM
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IDK, I think women look better than men even without makeup, and MUCH better with it. On average women have better hair, skin, teeth, hygiene, and bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:37 AM
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IDK if that's true statistically, but I've absolutely met unattractive men who've rationalized cheating by saying "this could be my only chance." As in "this could be my only chance to fuck a redhead", "this could be my only chance to fuck an asian", "this could be my only chance to fuck a woman with big tits." An attractive guy knows it won't be his only chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:28 AM
1

If TRP isn't about women then why are at least 90% of the posts and sidebar about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:06 AM
1

I agree, it's easy for Nice Guys to judge cheaters when they've never had the opportunity, but once an opportunity presents itself, ugly guys are just as likely to cheat as hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:47 AM
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In EVERY way? No, probably not. But have you ever met a man married to a woman that's worse than him in every way? I haven't. If that's your definition of hypergamy then men are just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:29 AM
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Sure why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:23 AM
1

TRP teaches men how to attract basics because men care more about quantity more than quality. They're just trying to sleep around not find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:00 AM
1

Never seen what, an aggressive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:57 PM
1

Most women date slightly BELOW their looks match because that's who approaches them. Most women aren't going after anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:57 PM
1

Men dont listen even if you tell them something. They know better. Yep this is a big one, often accompanied by them mansplaining your feelings to you. They complain women don't communicate directly, but when you communicate directly they don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:50 PM
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TBH I do that and I'm a woman, I don't expect anyone else to clean it, I just leave it and then come back to it later. Like, I clean the whole kitchen on Saturday so why would I clean the stove on Thursday when I'm gonna do it again in 2 days? Thursday is laundry day, not kitchen day - who's gonna fold the laundry, if I'm cleaning the stove? I just always stick to the same routine, I'm sure that'd drive some people crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:10 PM
2

Masculine women should use their STEMbux on facial and body feminization surgery, then they can rule the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 07:45 PM
1

See nobody believes me when I say men prefer masculine women, but in my experience man-brained women come out ahead in life, relationships and pretty much everything. If you ever see a frumpy woman with a man that looks WAY out of her league, I can almost guarantee you she'll be a loud, aggressive ENTJ or ENTP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 07:24 PM
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The bait-and-switch. Presenting themselves as thoughtful, respectful and engaged, then turning into a completely different person after the relationship talk. And usually they're the ones pushing for commitment, maybe because they think it means they can stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 06:08 PM
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Trying to solve interpersonal problems without emotional intelligence is like trying to hammer a nail with a screwdriver.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:22 PM
1

Not really, I'm the type of person who looks forward to parties and socializing, but when I actually go out and do it, I don't enjoy it and want to go home. Sometimes I think "maybe I should get out more" but then I try something and remember why I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:32 PM
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Because money buys 2 important things, security and freedom. Security means never having to worry about getting evicted, never having to move back in with your shitty parents. Being able to go to the doctor when you're sick or injured, without worrying about how you're going to pay for it. Knowing your kids will always be taken care of. Knowing you'll be taken care of when you get old and you won't end up in some shitty nursing home. Freedom is being able to go back to school to pursue your drea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:11 PM
1

Money doesn't make men SEXUALLY attractive, that's just male hamstering. And faking attraction is girl game 101, women pretend to be attracted to rich men so they can get his sweet beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:36 PM
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I'm with you, I only care about whether a guy is fuckable, and a 5/10 is just as good as an 8/10 because both are fuckable. But the 8/10 will get you more social status and admiration, some people care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:32 PM
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Do they just never go out in public I think you might be onto something...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:26 PM
3

financial independence, retire early
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:15 PM
1

I agree STEMlords make quality beta bux, would recommend. Most of them read r/personalfinance and hoard as much money as possible, trying to FI/RE because they secretly hate their boring jobs. Those are the ones to look for. Every once in a while you meet one who thinks he can buy his way into being alpha with fancy cars and motorcycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:01 PM
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Indulging a man's delusions is a good way of getting him to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:47 AM
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This is a fairly accurate description of a narcissist, I disagree that all men are narcissists though. Most men don't believe they're the best, they believe they're slightly better than how they really are. In every way. Slightly more attractive, slightly smarter, more competent, likable etc. So that when a man meets his equal, he believes he or she is slightly inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 06:38 AM
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My husband and I have a deal for that sort of scenario: either we both live or we both die.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 06:03 AM
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If it looks good who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:48 AM
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I've never met someone with the "same exact personality" but I've always preferred dating guys with a very similar personality to mine. I think it's good when you have the same strengths, but couples run into problems when they share the same weaknesses. Most people have one or two weaknesses they feel deeply ashamed of, and when you run into someone who shares those weaknesses, you tend to hate and look down on them. They remind you of everything you hate about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:47 AM
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I have noticed some men expect empathy from women while being unable or unwilling to return that empathy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:35 AM
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research finds that when men rate female faces as more attractive - less attractive, the ones around age 12-14 are the most attract If I recall correctly they weren't rating pictures of actual 12-14 year olds. They took pictures of adult women and changed some of the proportions to be similar to 12-14 year olds. I doubt they actually looked underaged. And I don't think any of the celebrities you mentioned look underaged. All women's faces are 'neotenous' compared to men's faces, our faces don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:38 PM
2

Looks like a butterface to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:29 PM
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My partner comes first, without question. 3 and 5 hours a day seems like a LOT though, my husband and I are both introverts and neither of us requires or even wants that much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 08:14 AM
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If that's emasculating then dudes must love being emasculated, I've never met a guy who didn't like it when a woman takes control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:32 PM
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I'm not even a fan of the natural look, I like wearing smoky eyes and dark lips, often at the same time. But that said I think the Instagram makeup looks awful, especially the brick-like eyebrows and overly shiny Rudolph noses. All the contouring can actually make women look masculine since it's copied from drag. Fake eyelashes weigh down your eyelids and make people look like dead-eyed uncanny valley real dolls. Overly injected, overlined lips looking like prolapsed buttholes. Not to mention th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:18 PM
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Honestly it takes at least 6 months of practice to learn to do makeup that well, and that's if you're talented to begin with. Some girls will never have the skills to transform themselves like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:03 PM
1

180 pounds is too much unless he's 6'2".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:58 PM
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IDK if it goes that deep dude, maybe wiry guys are just hotter than bulky ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:53 PM
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IDK, I don't think men are actually threatened by skincare, I think they're just lazy as hell and use "it's girly" or "it doesn't work anyways" as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:19 AM
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I think guys look best around 24-ish. I'm older than that. I'd definitely pick Tim over Jeff. If Jeff's got wrinkles at 25, he's gonna be looking fucking rough at 35. Likewise even if Tim is likely to turn more heads, after you learn he's older than you thought, the attraction would go bye bye! Actually I think it's the opposite. Let's say I assume they're both 30, but I learn their real ages after talking to them. I'd be more tuned off by Jeff because I'd assume he doesn't take care of himself.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:12 AM
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I'd do it, but I've never been very attached to a job so if we broke up I'd probably just quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:18 PM
1

Because when you interview rapists they often admit they use rape to punish women for perceived transgressions. Also many rapists have wives or girlfriends and don't need to rape in order to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:24 PM
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I know the day's going to come when my husband doesn't find me sexy anymore. As long as we're both still happy, he treats me well, and doesn't cheat, it's not a problem. It'll be disappointing, but thats just reality. Everyone gets ugly eventually, and you can't expect people to be attracted to you when you're not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:38 AM
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IMO it's better to be exceptional in some areas, and really shitty in others vs. being mediocre at everything. At least you've got one or two strengths that make you stand out from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 07:18 AM
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What's the word to describe how men choose women who are more physically/sexually attractive than themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 06:54 PM
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Mine have gotten worse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:13 AM
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Some guys have zero awareness of what's attractive, which you can tell from the horrendous photos they take of themselves: Resting murder face. Dead-eyed smiles that look like fear grimaces. Low angles emphasizing nose hairs and double chin. Even attractive people can look ugly in photos. They should be doing what girls do, take 50 photos of yourself with different angles, expressions, lighting conditions and outfits, then post the best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 11:00 PM
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Any adult who yells, interrupts, throws things, stomps around etc. looks stupid and will make me lose respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:21 AM
2

Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 02:43 AM
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Cleaning the bathroom, I just have a psychological aversion to it. That's where people poop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 02:35 AM
1

All the coaching in the world won't help unless they actually take your advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:57 AM
2

The girls above ^ are showing more skin than the examples you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:47 AM
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Most of those are only showing back/shoulders/arms, and wouldn't register to me as skimpy or even sexy. Like how are arm cutouts sexy when people regularly walk around without any sleeves at all. That said everything looks cheap and fug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:43 AM
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Young pretty women wearing skimpy clothes in hot weather isn't new.. Especially celebrities, sometimes I watch old movies and they're dressed skimpier than 99% of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:37 AM
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IDK I always thought men look pretty fucking stupid when they throw tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:11 AM
1

Yes, or at least ban the ones who aren't regulars here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:08 AM
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Gingivitis/10
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:04 AM
1

I never felt unsafe even in shit neighborhoods, the only thing that came close was on public transport when someone got in my face and started yelling at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:26 AM
1

Ehhh the men I know care more about cultural markers of class than income.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:25 AM
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Girl there are no 👏 ugly 👏 women 👏 only lazy ones. Just look at my incredible before and after transformation. Can you even believe that's the same person?? Why don't you come to my place this weekend for a free #younique makeover?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:30 PM
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I'm with you girl, organic is SO important. Did you know #youngliving #essentialoils are 100% PURE and organic? They even helped cure my dog's autism, heres a before and after. Now he's friends with Kylie Jenner. 🙌 #totallynotnamedropping #soproud #rabiesvaccinescauseautism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 09:37 PM
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hey girl just got back from my trip to the caymans, #blessed. 🙏 So proud of you for FINALLY starting your fitness journey #itsabouttime Have you tried using It Works? #notapyramidscheme Here's my before and after pics, can you believe they were taken just 30 seconds apart? It Works helped me lose 2 pounds of water weight, gain 3 orbiters, 2 photographer boyfriends, 10,000 followers and $40,000 a month. Take 👏 control 👏of 👏 your 👏 life 👏 girl 👏 #itworks #bossbabe #noseriouslyyouneedtoloseweight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:08 PM
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I looooove Anastasia dip brow, can't live without my dippie. #eyebrowsonfleek
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:32 PM
1

Nah worst position is anything in the car.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:19 PM
1

Manson was 5'2"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:02 PM
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If you never get pumped, you never get dumped. ¯\(ツ)/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:57 PM
1

Tourists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:54 PM
1

Low effort = low reward
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:51 PM
1

No one will be raising the next generation of humans, fertility rates will plummet and the population will decrease as is the illuminati's will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:42 AM
1

Achieving all my goals and realizing none of them made me happy or even satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:34 AM
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I didn't have a teenage rebellion but now I'm compensating for it as an adult. Did everything by the book until I was in my 20's and had a quarter-life crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:29 AM
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How are they different?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 03:59 AM
2

Same. They're easy marks, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:58 AM
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Younger women find older attractive men quite attractive. Meh I don't, but if it'll get me some of that sweet beta bux I can pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:53 AM
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Pros of dating a RPW: sundresses sparkling water probably attractive will Marie-Kondo your sock drawer Cons of dating a RPW: basic AF needs a handbook to teach her how to not be a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:47 PM
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Dumb guys are the best. More cons of dating a Chad: roid rage stares at himself in the mirror while having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:42 PM
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I mean maybe they'll give you a discount for fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:26 PM
2

No judgment if you binge on chips and soda. Nooo see only gentlesirs are allowed to be fat, a human-sized body just can't contain their superior intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:23 PM
1

More than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:05 PM
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Pros of dating a feminist you don't need to provide for her doesn't mind going dutch will get an abortion if you accidentally impregnate her slutty Cons of dating a feminist slutty castration
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:58 PM
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Pros of dating a neckbeard: sweet ass samurai sword won't cheat (because he can't) Cons of dating a neckbeard: everything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:29 PM
1

money tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:25 PM
1

It doesn't bode well for a marriage if you're spending more time with your cute coworker than your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:54 PM
1

The odds are good but the goods are odd. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:42 PM
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They're not noteworthy, and it's cringe when people act like they are. My point is that people who have actual interesting lives don't need to act pretentious about whatever tattoos they do or don't have. Like if you're a straight laced virgin with no tattoos and you're actually cool, you'd have better things to talk about than whining about degenerates or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:16 PM
1

Incels exist in every society and always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:41 AM
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If you can do better, by all means go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:15 AM
2

K look on Meetup for a pagan group in your area and see how many men vs women are on the members list.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:42 AM
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When you've never done anything noteworthy you have to be pretentious about things you HAVEN'T done, ie NOT doing drugs, NOT slutting it up, NOT getting tattoos etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:24 AM
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I’m a control freak. I mean that's why you're surrounded by yes-men. Your personality attracts followers and repels everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:35 AM
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Sure they don't need feminism... Until their husband dies, and they're too old to find a new one. Husband was poor or middle class, so no inheritance. Before feminism women like that ended up in the poorhouse or begging on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:24 AM
1

I remember an old thread where dudes were posting examples of the 1000 cock stare, turns out it's just false eyelashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:00 AM
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I'd have it flat iron the back of my hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:55 AM
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They should convert to paganism or Wicca, seriously it's like 90% big tiddy goth bitches. They need more dudes for their fertility rituals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:12 AM
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Mixed group would've been better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:09 AM
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Especially when I have had circles before and didn't get laid anyway. What kinda people were in your circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:03 AM
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I think the most important thing you can do is to make friends, but people don't like hearing that and I can understand why. Incels don't know how to find girlfriends or make friends, it's like if you're trying to learn French and I come along and say you need to learn Latin first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:08 AM
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Don't worry, you won't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:59 AM
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Beating up a smarter girl in a competition that allows it (so LIFE pre-not-that-long-ago) is an extremely pragmatic and intelligent solution. Men don't want to compete with women, you don't earn any respect for winning, but you'll catch a lot of flak for losing. There's no reward and significant risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:47 AM
0

The kinda men who fail at dating aren't the same ones running the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:35 AM
1

12 years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:56 PM
1

I actually agree with this. Discrimination against ugly people is more acceptable because there's a perception that anyone can be attractive if they try hard enough, or spend enough money. It's like you owe it to the world to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:47 PM
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IDK, they probably witness women falling for their male friends, and fail to realize that can only happen when he's above her attraction threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:36 PM
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Lol you wouldn't say "I'm a Chad" if you were a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:44 PM
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To me attractiveness and masculinity/femininity are on 2 different axes and masculinity doesn't matter as long as the dude's attractive. Any uggo can be masculine, I'd rather take a femme boi with a nice face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:27 PM
1

No not deformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:36 PM
1

People don't change their minds in response to facts and data, they change their minds in response to psychological and emotional manipulation. The best way to get someone to change their mind is to convince them it was their idea all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 10:07 AM
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Toxic Islamism? I support the use of this term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 10:04 AM
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Yes, one has an illness that affects her appearance and never dated. The other wasted a lot of time cohabiting with guys who wouldn't tie the knot, now her youth is gone and she's given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:24 AM
1

if you have a condition benzos are used to treat (anxiety, insomnia, depression, etc) you are already more likely to get dementia anyway. Fuck, I have all of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:00 AM
1

Sooo did mid-century women have higher testosterone than women of today?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:43 AM
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It doesn't matter how brutally you reject them, dudes always believe they can change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:38 AM
1

If I can say this without offending, it also doesn’t sound like love to me. Not offensive, it felt like love at the time but I was only 16 so who knows. There were certain things I loved about him and I wouldn't have stayed if it'd been all bad. I wished he was better, I wished he could be like that all the time. But if he'd actually improved himself, I think it would've made me feel insecure. I always felt insecure around regular people, and still do to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:04 AM
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No but I regret not manipulating more dudes for fun and profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:40 AM
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Yes I got out of it 10+ years ago. And I was not conscious of any of this at the time. We literally had an argument where he said "you don't respect me" and I emphatically tried to convince him otherwise and believed everything I was saying. Looking back, no, I didn't respect him and still don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:09 AM
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I agree with that, I loved my abuser in a condescending way like how you'd love a child despite their temper tantrums. I thought I was a piece of shit and the only way I could feel good about myself was by putting myself next to an even bigger piece of shit. I feel like this is the darker side of victim psychology that isn't really talked about. I really just wanted someone I could look down on. So attraction is irrelevant. If he was ugly, all the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:24 AM
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Where are the women who are attracted to "skinniness" raises hand Where are the women who are attracted to ugly guys Well I wouldn't call them ugly, but I've always liked guys with big Roman noses and big fuckin fangleteeth, does that count? Where are the women who are actively attracted to anything other than "wealthy"? Wealth is irrelevant to SEXUAL attraction. Where are the women actively attracted to "shyness" or "sensitiveness" in guys? Are you kidding me, when I was single I pounced on shy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:08 AM
2

I agree, here's yours. You are now required to support her for the next 60 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:40 AM
1

Atlas is a good guy who thinks she's an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:18 AM
1

PPD causes brain damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:59 AM
1

How does it feel to be a man knowing you already are?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:58 AM
1

Most women aren't sexually submissive, they just use BDSM as an excuse to be lazy and not take initiative. Men are the more emotional sex. They just try harder to keep their emotions under control, but even then most of them fail at it, causing repressed emotions to come out as anger and moodiness. This is also why men can't maintain friendships with women they've got crushes on. They can't dismiss their emotions as easily as women can. If a guy hates his mom, he'll probably marry someone just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:27 AM
1

That is your opinion, that's not how the market works though. If I'm selling essential oils to bougie gen-x helicopter moms, I can get on Twitter and say "vaccines cause autism" without my business taking a hit. However if I were a Pharma rep and I did the same thing, I'd get fucking fired within 2 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:38 AM
1

Not exactly... Most consumers think Monsanto is more evil than Amazon, the difference is that Monsanto doesn't have to care what those consumers think. They're being held to different standards because they're accountable to different groups of people. That seems silly, since both progressive men and regular men both want to appeal to women. Their target demographic is the same. If 95% of people reading your shitty RP blog are dudes, RP men are your target demographic and you don't have to worry…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:25 AM
1

What it really comes down to is having to please your target market. For example, Monsanto mostly sells to big aggro companies, not consumers, so they don't have to care what consumers think of them. But Amazon has to care, since they depend on consumers to keep their business running. So Amazon ends up being held to a higher standard - and being scandalized for making people work in hot warehouses, even when other companies have done much worse. This Smith dude's target market is progressives s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:11 AM
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My husband was convicted of a felony for beating the shit out of his school bullies, I'm not gonna fault anyone for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:37 PM
1

Most pretty people have good personalities, but they've still led easy lives and give shit advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:10 PM
1

Ugly people have more clout because they actually have to work to obtain and maintain a relationship. As opposed to pretty people who have everything handed on a silver platter no matter how awful and boring they are. Pretty people are the ones who give such sage advice as "just be yourself mate" or "you just have to wait for the right guy to come and sweep you off your feet."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:49 PM
5

I see this all the damn time. Dudes using their wealth, popularity, and d-list celebrity status to get women. Then acting like the victim when those women turn out to be gold diggers and clout chasers. Like what the fuck do you expect dude? I don't actually think they're that dumb. Truth is lots of guys just wanna get the hottest women possible, by any means, and they don't care if she's using him. A Stacy can literally tell a man "I'm with you for your money," and he'll still think that if he k…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:40 PM
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I see this all the damn time. Dudes using their wealth, popularity, and d-list celebrity status to get women. Then acting like the victim when those women turn out to be gold diggers and clout chasers. Like what the fuck do you expect dude? I don't actually think they're that dumb. Truth is lots of guys just wanna get the hottest women possible, by any means, and they don't care if she's using him. They only start caring when she leaves him for another guy with even more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:40 PM
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Don't they? Cause from where I'm sitting I see plenty of women encouraging men to dress their best and even wear makeup and get plastic surgery if they need it. I wouldn't have a problem with wigs if they looked good however 99% of the time they look awful. Even hair extensions on women look terrible most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:29 AM
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So you just take the pill again, like who cares. I don't care if my husband turned into a bridge troll at night as long as he changes back before I have to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:14 AM
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If I had a magic pill that could turn me from a 4/10 to an 8/10 that wears off after a few hours I don't think anyone would care as long as you keep taking the pill when you're with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:09 AM
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He's popular, kind, non-judgmental, can walk on water, and his beard is always perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:01 AM
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My parents were the same, they didn't even let me shave until high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:32 AM
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Purity ball dads are creepy AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:01 AM
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A lot of how we perceive age is performative, it's your clothes, makeup, speech, attitude and how you carry yourself. Girls start trying to look and act like adults at 13-ish. Not even sure if this is a modern phenomenon since I remember it being the same in the 90's. And it's perfectly understandable to look up to older women and try to be more like them. Especially when all the other kids your age are doing the same thing. I remember being teased for wearing 'kids clothes' in 7th grade. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:51 AM
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Most of the guys who post on r/incelselfies aren't ugly, they're mentalcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:22 PM
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Nah I agree with the OP, it's just a way of complementing a guy by suggesting he's attractive enough to be a player if he wanted. People use it because it's less forward/more flirtatious than just telling a guy he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 06:46 AM
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While I wouldn't want separate homes, I think there's something to be said for maintaining some level of distance in a relationship. There's 2 components of sex, anticipation and release. When sex is always available, there's no anticipation, and sex becomes boring and perfunctory like masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 04:41 AM
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Open disrespect, verbal abuse, cheating, ghosting for a week then coming back acting like everything's normal. Being dead last on their list of priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 03:21 AM
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Forget normal, I dated bullied ostracized nerds who still acted like that. Of course they believed they were 'nice guys'. People's self-concept doesn't always align with their actions. 'Nice guys' start acting like Chad as soon as they think they've got you locked down. Maybe the success goes to their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 09:54 PM
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I'm INTP my husband is INTJ, can confirm great match. I've heard ENTJ is INTP's best match but I don't like them. I think a male INTP would do well with another INTP, ENTP or INFP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 08:56 PM
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A man will never love you the way you want him too No woman has ever expected a man to love her unconditionally except maybe her dad when she's a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 01:33 AM
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Hand jobs are obviously cheating. French kissing is cheating because nobody French kisses platonically. A peck on the lips might be OK depending on your culture and background. Cuddling, it depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 01:21 AM
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I like good boys who think they're bad. So adorable when they try to act all edgy and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 03:49 AM
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It's normal for married couples to become more similar to each other over years and decades. Not normal to do it for someone you've just started dating, and seems disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 03:38 AM
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I've noticed a lot of extro women flirt without even realizing they're doing it. From their perspective, guys just ask them out, out of the blue. For an introvert, being friendly and flirting is something you have to do consciously and it feels like work. It feels like you're the one making all the moves. When the guy finally asks you out, he thinks he's making the first move. But from an introverted girl's perspective, you've already made the first 10 moves - making eye contact, smiling, approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 03:29 AM
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I kinda have little dog syndrome where I think I'm way taller than I am I have this too, I perceive and remember almost everyone as being shorter than me. I'm somewhat tall to begin with, so lots of people are shorter. But it's exaggerated in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:05 PM
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How tall are you? How tall is your SO? I'm 5'8" he's 6'2". Did the height differential make any difference to you in sexual attraction, selection, etc.? Do you believe it made any difference to your partner/SO? Yes, I've dated short guys (like 5'5") but I prefer guys that are my height or taller. My husband has said he doesn't like short girls and wouldn't date anyone shorter than 5'5" or so. But I'm betting he'd make an exception for someone hot enough (just like I would). How old are you? How …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:49 PM
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How tall are you? How tall is your SO? I'm 5'8" he's 6'2". Did the height differential make any difference to you in sexual attraction, selection, etc.? Do you believe it made any difference to your partner/SO? Yes, I've dated short guys (like 5'5") but I prefer guys that are my height or taller. My husband has said he doesn't like short girls and wouldn't date anyone shorter than 5'5" or so. But I'm betting he'd make an exception for someone hot enough (just like I would). How old are you? How …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:48 PM
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they forget to even ask themselves if they like him. I can't be the only one whose friends and family told me to "just give him a chance" even though I knew I didn't like him, which is bad advice in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 09:40 PM
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Men: Women shouldn't worry about clothes, guys don't care about it anyways. Same men, 24h later: You look great, did you lose weight? Nope. The difference is clothes. Men don't care about the particulars of women's fashion, but they care about having a woman that looks good, and clothes are a part of that. They won't notice how your jeans emphasize your waist:hip ratio, or how that color makes your eyes pop. They'll just notice you look better without being able to put their finger on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:38 PM
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The whole debate over whether or not women should ask men out. In my experience women have access to MORE and BETTER guys when they're willing to make a move. It's OK for women to make the first move, or even the second and third moves - but that being said, you shouldn't be making ALL of the moves. If you're the one who always texts first, always approaches first, always asks him out first - he's not that into you. After the first few times, the ratio should be at least 50/50. Also "guys like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:22 PM
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I mean it also works out for the men those women end up dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 07:05 PM
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Tinder is by far the most popular, a quick google search will tell you only 15% of Americans have ever used dating sites or apps as of 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 06:59 PM
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I live in a major city too, but I've never used dating apps and don't really know anyone who does. Dating apps are for casual sex. So of course the women you meet on Tinder are going to have had a lot of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 12:13 AM
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I grew up thinking that the path to success with women was to meet, become friends, grow to like each other over time, start dating, become boyfriend and girlfriend, get really serious about each other, start having sex, then get married. How I met all my boyfriends. If you spend your life following that top path instead of the bottom one, you end up in your 30s with a previous partner count of 3... and you have no idea how to play the game It's true, I have no idea how to play the dating game, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 09:54 PM
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He can maybe get dates if he is willing to settle for a 2 or 3. Marriage could net him a 4 or 5. How can he marry a 4 or 5 if 4's and 5's won't date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 09:19 PM
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it's perfectly reasonable and healthy for a young, mormal-weight man to seek out a young, normal-weight women The problem is that lots of these young, normal-weight men are autistic, mentally ill or socially awkward. Their match would be a young, normal-weight, mentally ill/autistic/socially awkward woman. But they can't find a woman like that, since men with these problems outnumber women. Young, slim, normie women aren't interested, since they can get a young, slim, normie man. That means they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 09:04 PM
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For some guys it'a a manifestation of jealousy and controlling behavior. They don't want you hanging out with other guys. So they try to convince you all your male friends are just waiting for an opportunity to rape you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 03:43 AM
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It is reasonable for a top 30% man to want a top 30% woman. However men consistently overestimate their attractiveness, intelligence, competence, and likability to women. When men date their equals, they think they're settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:11 AM
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50% of women are post-wall (median age in the US is 37). 41% of millennials are overweight or obese. A non-fat 18-36 year old woman is a top 30% woman. If she's got a decent face, skin, etc she's probably top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 05:47 AM
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Why does it only take 15 minutes? There's 2 possible explanations: They don't do anything at home except sleep/watch TV, so their apartment never gets dirty in the first place. Their apartment isn't as clean as they think. For me, I cook every day, work at home, and have hobbies at home, so you can bet your ass 30 minutes a day isn't going to cover it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 08:00 PM
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Homeschooled kids perform significantly better on standardized tests than public school kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 07:47 PM
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I've done it a few times. I never liked the guys in person as much as I did online. Looking back, I chose long distance relationships because I was emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 10:26 PM
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IDK, I'd much rather be a cat lady than a single mom or unhappily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 12:59 AM
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Men and women are different but couples are similar. I'm far more similar to my husband than a randomly-selected woman, and he's far more similar to me than a randomly-selected man. All the research seems to suggest like attracts like. And not only do couples start out similar, but they become even more alike over time. Sometimes married couples even start looking like brother and sister, it's kinda creepy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 12:07 AM
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I feel like 99% of jobs are mindless drudgery, or at least become that way over time. Eventually you learn everything there is to learn about your position (usually within a few weeks or months) and then it's all drudgery from there on out. And I've had jobs that sounded impressive to others, but to me it was all the same, the $35/hour job is just as boring as the $10/hour job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:53 AM
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Same, my parents taught me to read and do arithmetic before I ever started kindergarten. Because of them I got in all the gifted classes, got educational opportunities the other students didn't get, and all those extra opportunities snowball over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:20 PM
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The problem is SAHM's are disrespected as humans. When people call them housecats, golddiggers, parasites, that's a personal attack on the human. When you reduce a person to their job and then disrespect the job, disrespecting the job is disrespecting the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:12 PM
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Some jobs are better than others but that doesn't mean the people who hold those jobs are better than others. People are more than just their jobs. The barista could be writing a novel, the burger-flipper could be volunteering with the elderly on weekends. I respect people like that more than I respect people who make a lot of money, but are totally boring in their down-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:55 PM
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it should't be held in any more respect than low tier jobs with no benefits So people in low-paying jobs shouldn't be respected...? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:07 PM
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Did men ever respect SAHM's? I mean obviously certain individuals do but what about men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:05 PM
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I think people just want to be able to do what they want without being disrespected because of it. Some women still want to be SAHM's and they're unhappy when other people call them housecats golddiggers or even parasites. It's never feminists I see using those words, though. There's also subtle forms of disrespect like treating your SAHM friend/family member like an errand girl because she "doesn't work". Thing is no matter what you do there's always going to be SOMEONE out there who disrespect…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 07:56 PM
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I had an LTR with a guy who was 5'6" (I'm taller).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 10:38 PM
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What you'll learn in class isn't as important as the social & practical skills you'll learn while in college. Don't neglect your social life, make the most out of it because it's never going to be this easy to socialize again. Also don't major in something you find boring just because it's practical. You'll end up quitting your job after 2 years and working outside your major just like all the liberal arts grads. Do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 07:26 PM
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They wanted LTR's. Some of these guys were attractive and could've gotten casual sex with women more attractive than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 10:00 PM
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I agree, biographies are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:47 PM
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I believe they were physically attracted to me in the sense that if I walked up and offered free sex, they would've taken it. However some guys will approach and pursue women solely because of their looks, and I've never been that girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:46 PM
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What OP is talking about is raw sexual attraction developing over time. That's what I'm talking about too. I mean all the guys I've dated have been into me sexually, to the extent they don't even seem to notice other women anymore. But that's not how it was when we first met. I think it's not always possible to untangle physical from emotional attraction - definitely not for women, but sometimes even for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:32 PM
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Is it really that different for guys? I've known plenty of guys who totally ignored me when we first met, but went head over heels after getting to know me. I'm average-looking and pretty much invisible in a crowded room, but social circle game is my jam.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:09 PM
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I've gone from "maybe..." to "yes please" after getting to know a guy, but I've never gone from "no way" to "yes please" after getting to know a guy. What I'm saying is that it happens all the time, but there's a limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 08:57 PM
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The problem is that in order to make money, you need to sell a lot of books to a lot of different types of people, so most of the advice ends up being really general. It's not necessarily bad advice, but a lot of it ends up being the same stuff you've heard before. A good, actionable self-help book would have to be written by someone who doesn't care as much about selling millions of copies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:03 PM
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Women should be terrified of being single moms, it's one of the worst fates there is for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 06:07 PM
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Dump the douche, talk to that cute guy, you know the one. Be more open and talkative in general. Stop caring what people think of you, after high school you'll never see them again anyways. Major in something fun, not practical. You're gonna be self-employed so your major doesn't matter that much anyways. Practical skills & social skills are more important than what you learn in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 08:46 PM
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Some of them look good to me but most don't. I would say they're dressing for fashion/self-expression more than attractiveness. Some people love fashion more than they love beauty. Some women love makeup more than they love beauty. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just different priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 08:09 PM
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It's a consolation prize women don't want and men have to trick women into.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 03:51 AM
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Waiting until you're in an LTR usually works IMO. I've heard that lots of guys will get bored and leave but I've never had that happen. Sometimes women put guys in the friendzone so they can pseudo-date him without being pestered for sex. He may or may not be having sex with other women. She may or may not be pseudo-dating other men. Then eventually one of them confesses their feelings and they jump into dating, sex, exclusivity and an LTR all at once. Which is basically how our parents dated, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 09:48 PM
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Like fashion, dating trends are cyclical. Being a Nice Guy works when being a Nice Guy makes you stand out from all the Asshole Chads. Chad only wants to get in your pants, but the Nice Guy is emotionally complex and sensitive! He's not like all those Other Guys! He even plays guitar! The problem is that when too many guys start being Nice, they don't stand out anymore. And women start realizing they're only being Nice to get in her pants. Now it's the Assholes who stand out. So honest! So refre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:55 PM
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You're his backup girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:23 PM
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When I was single I dated one at a time, because guys usually wanted to be "boyfriend/girlfriend" right away and I went along with it because I didn't want to lose them or disappoint them. However, if I could go back in time, I think I'd date around more, and wait longer before going steady.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:14 PM
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Many of Lana del Rey's songs are about one-sided love and devotion towards men who don't feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:04 PM
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I think a better parallel would be a woman who fakes attraction, enthusiasm & orgasms. She makes him think she's got the Eros when she really doesn't. Women have been doing it for thousands of years and it's how mistresses kept men on the hook for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 09:03 PM
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