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I rhyme my name so people understand what I'm saying, it also gets a laugh most of the time (i.e, I'm Frank the Tank, but not as tool-ish as this example). Later on, during comfort, I'll tease a girl with the 'true pronunciation' of my name, and make fun of her for being an Anglo.
/r/seduction14/12/11 06:23 AM
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That was some smooth game. This show gets better and better the more I go out.
/r/seduction11/12/11 08:26 PM
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Playing the intellectual frame is awesome with the right calibration. Some girls aren't in the mood to be engaged intellectually in the bar and, especially, in the club. That being said, I've had girls call me out on it ('I kinda just wanna dance, not talk about stuff'), and the worst thing that you can do is try to appease her. I've blown a lot of sets by doing this, but those are lessons learned. When you do find girls that are receptive, this style of game works great, especially with fast ph…
/r/seduction11/12/11 07:30 PM
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Just as an opposing perspective, my game actually gets better when I get stoned, and I've taken a lot of lessons from my 'high' self and implemented them into my sober and drunk self. I think it comes down to the fact that being high makes me really stabilizes the moment, in the sense that it makes me want to keep doing whatever I'm doing like the thought of changing what I'm doing right now is stupid. Though this makes it hard to initially approach and brings out some antisocial feelings, it al…
/r/seduction25/11/11 11:05 PM
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Inspiring! Also, way to be an awesome wingman for your buds.
/r/seduction13/11/11 07:49 AM
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Just going physical from the get-go and making my interest very apparent through body language. I wouldn't say that my BL was aloof since I was making heavy eye contact and holding physical contact much longer than normal. I've noticed that you're very good at making girls feel comfortable around you. Do you consciously do anything to do this? I think I might need to temper some of the tension I'm creating with a bit more comfort, so I'll have to play around a little and see what works best. Wit…
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:32 AM
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Mostly just saying 'What are you supposed to be?' as a generic opener or something observational if it came to mind. The conversation generally flowed naturally from there, with me applying kino/eye contact/proximity. It would have been awesome to have you observe my sets closely! There were a couple which I opened right next to you that you gave me some quick comments on. Do you remember anything else that you might not have said right then?
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:21 AM
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Haha, yeah, it was pretty funny to watch her as her brain went 'I've made a terrible mistake.' Having more fun out there is something which I'm working on, and I still have a ways to go.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:18 AM
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I would have said 'AIEEE STOP IIITTTT :'-(,' put my hands in front of my face for protection, and cried until someone stronger came to save me.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:17 AM
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You're assuming that testosterone levels correlate with game ability.
/r/seduction30/10/11 10:31 PM
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Thanks! Knowing that someone else is going through a similar situation is encouraging. Were there every any nights for you where direct game worked better than usual/why?
/r/seduction30/10/11 07:45 PM
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Looks are far more based in body language than most people believe. For instance, the same girl slouching and frowning is way less attractive than she is smiling, standing tall, and playing with her breasts. The same goes for men (much more so, in fact). I've been doing an experiment where I try to take less and less care of myself when I go out and see how it affects my results (my sarge buddies can attest to the fact that I spend <10 minutes getting ready to go out). Surprisingly, I haven't no…
/r/seduction15/10/11 07:51 PM
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First off, great job approaching! The first few are the hardest and, in a month, AA will be a dull murmur in the back of your mind. Here's a little reframing point that may help you: girls are not being bitches by not acknowledging you, they're just shy. Before I got into seddit, I would often just stand around when people came up to my group, wondering if I should butt into what, from my perspective, seems to be a private conversation. Even if this isn't the case, believing that it is will ofte…
/r/seduction01/10/11 07:51 PM
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My mood is usually shit the day after I get drunk. It's one of the main reasons why I don't get drunk that often anymore. Nonetheless, most good people don't try to bring everyone else down regardless of how they are feeling.
/r/seduction26/09/11 12:42 AM
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I really like this plan! I'll definitely have to try the cold shower next time, though I might skip the 'jump up and down in my car' step because I have an aversion to dying.
/r/seduction18/09/11 07:25 PM
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we had a grad student pledge, but policies likely vary from frat to frat.
/r/seduction18/09/11 03:54 AM
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Glad you bounced back :)
/r/seduction18/09/11 03:13 AM
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Thanks! This is definitely something to keep in my back pocket if I haven't set the proper frame from the outset.
/r/seduction18/09/11 01:53 AM
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Awesome advice! My problem is that I feel like I'll introduce awkwardness if I mistime the escalation, but the only way to calibrate is to try and fail!
/r/seduction17/09/11 07:39 PM
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I think you handled it really well, and probably gained value in the eyes of everyone at the table while the AMOG lost it by seeming socially unaware. My personal style, which I actually don't think is better than what you did here, is to play around with the situation a little. I might've walked up to him and said 'I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable.' while maybe hugging him or rubbing his arm. Then, subtly escalate by looking him in the eyes and whispering 'I would never want t…
/r/seduction16/09/11 05:34 AM
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I find smart girls easier to game. It's hard to feign interest in someone's personality if they have none.
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:53 AM
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Yeah, it's great! I chickened out at the bars last weekend and didn't go full out, but I'm definitely going to try a no-holds barred sexual state this upcoming sarge-sesh. Let me know if you do the same and we can compare success stories!
/r/seduction14/09/11 03:21 AM
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I don't think this is as impossible as everyone is making it out to be, but it's definitely much harder than normal game due to the high chance of 'creep' factor. I remember a while back I had met a cute girl at a party, and, when I went to friend her, there were a couple of girls with the same name and all had fairly ambiguous pictures. I ended up doing the 'add as friend + send message' to each of them, saying 'Hi! I think you're the [name omitted] that I met last night. If not, we can still b…
/r/seduction14/09/11 03:15 AM
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Yep, it just came out. Cajun is genius with body language, you should check him out on Keys to the VIP if you haven't already. He builds instant attraction just from the way he moves and speaks. It is so easy on paper! It's all about being comfortable and having fun. Then you are naturally attractive, and can try out whatever techniques are in your head without ever giving off that 'I hope this shit works' or 'This really is not me' vibe. I've noticed that, when I do get relaxed, not only do my …
/r/seduction11/09/11 09:39 PM
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I recently watched Love Systems Beyond Words. It had a lot of good info on how to portray confident, sexual body language. I know what you mean about the feedback cycle, it's vicious and for me it often comes when something unexpected happens, or if I get stressed out about what I need to do next (This is going well. OK, now I need to touch her arm. If I don't touch her, everything will be wasted, etc.). I'm trying to adopt a 'take everything into stride' mentality, sort of like how a Tai Chi or…
/r/seduction11/09/11 09:16 PM
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I had the same thing happen to me last night! Great vibe, lots of IOIs, and then sudden death when, in my case, I locked in (to be fair, I told them I was trying to hide from pirates). I think you're on the money with all of your takeaways. I always try to show little to no interest in the beginning to build up a chase frame, but I'm consistently miscalibrating when to start showing interest. Come to think of it, it's no surprise that girls, like guys, get a little bit butthurt when they show in…
/r/seduction10/09/11 07:27 PM
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The reason this isn't happening to you isn't because you're not 6'2''.
/r/seduction09/09/11 06:36 AM
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This is really interesting. I'd always heard that it was harder to get women in New York City because there are so many aggressive guys there. Eye contact is gold though, and I've found its effect seems to be amplified with cashiers for some reason. Maybe something about the relative proximity serves to increase tension.
/r/seduction09/09/11 06:35 AM
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My main concern with being rejected like this is how it will impact my social proof. Sometimes, I'll just say something ridiculous and self-amusing. Other times, I like to say something about the situation, even if it is self-deprecating, to make the girl laugh. Even something simple like 'Boy, I really fucked that up, huh?' (why keep the frame if she's already rejected you). Then, I laugh with her, and quickly scan the room for approach invitations (which I am still notoriously bad at following…
/r/seduction08/09/11 08:30 PM
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Walk around like you are somebody important (i.e., slowly, make your movements deliberate, shoulders relaxed and back, tall etc.). I've been making improvements to my body language, and I've noticed recently that random girls are smiling at me when I barely glance at them, as well as just being more aware of my presence in general. This should improve your initial reactions, which will make talking to people much easier. Women are masters at picking up body language cues, and if their thin slice…
/r/seduction07/09/11 11:06 PM
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This is great! It's interesting that a lot of the points you made are things which I've been independently trying to implement, so its incredibly reassuring to know that I'm on the right path. A couple of guys at Love Systems (Cajun, Vercetti) are also really big on positive visualization. Can you expand on notable steps in the journey you had and how long they took (i.e., when and how you felt yourself start becoming the person you wanted to be, epiphany-inducing events, practice plan, etc.)?
/r/seduction07/09/11 10:17 PM
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High powered, manipulative, routine or shtick-based game is really only a passable solution for short-term relationships. Though there might be a way to 'game' a guy into an LTR, you probably want to have a relationship based on openness, honesty, and mutual respect, and none of those things are possible if you're constantly running 'game' to keep him there. Many of the guys in the community have moved towards changing who we are as people, not only because this is the most sustainable solution,…
/r/seduction06/09/11 02:53 AM
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Awesome! I'm a fan of both yours and insaneyoshi's nicknames as well.
/r/seduction06/09/11 02:36 AM
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It's not as if it's a binary switch model. If we could quantify and project hotness and several personality traits onto several axes, the 'LTR girl region' would be an n-dimensional blob that differs for every guy (as well as the scaling and labels of the axes). To some extent, it might be useless to give a precise answer until better metrics can be used for personality traits, but I would argue that you not knowing yourself well enough to explain to someone else what you want is not a good reas…
/r/seduction06/09/11 02:34 AM
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Yep. I didn't talk at all about what I meant by physical attraction above, but a lot of it is how a girl carries herself and her body language (i.e., sexy eye contact, dancing etc.). When I did ballroom dance, I was always amazed by how the rookie girls seemed to get hotter over time as their posture and the quality of their movement increased. There has to be a dynamic to the relationship. A corollary of this might be variety in the bedroom. On a more existential note, everything must come to a…
/r/seduction06/09/11 02:27 AM
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I think someone else in the thread mentioned that attention to this kind of calibration will murder a newbie in the field. Everyone builds intuition based on their experiences, which are partly dependent on their own personality and delivery. I just put down what I've noticed for me personally, but it may not apply to you, and likely won't even apply to me in the future. The best way to get a feel for these 'thresholds' is to go out and step over them yourself.
/r/seduction06/09/11 12:55 AM
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You got me. I'm hiding what I really want in a girl because I secretly want you to be alone for the rest of your life. Regardless of whether they are male or female, it's hard to find a person who is funny, intelligent, passionate, articulate, and genuinely kind. People like this are people you keep around. What you_require_moar posted about being challenging is also very good advice. People will backwards rationalize things which took them a lot of a effort to do as being 'worth it.'
/r/seduction05/09/11 09:33 PM
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Funny, passionate, intelligent, and articulate go a long way. If a girl enjoys the act of intellectual debate for the sake of mutual understanding, and not for some egotistical need to prove that they are right, then she is definitely someone I'll keep around. If she can actually teach me something and make me laugh, then I'm smitten. That being said, there is a base level of physical attraction I need before I want to sleep with a girl, and any girl below that falls into the friend zone (basic …
/r/seduction05/09/11 08:51 PM
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Depends on the situation. If I feel like we're comfort, I'll answer honestly and passionately. If I want to spike her attraction, I'll say I'm getting a PhD in snake charming (field tested, works 70% of the time, every time). Over time, you develop funny answers to all the boring questions (i.e., where are you from, what do you do, where do you live), mostly because answering honestly too early will lead to a boring conversation (thread cutting), and for self-amusement. You have to calibrate mak…
/r/seduction05/09/11 09:26 AM
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Oh man, you're pretty jacked! Are you sure that girls are insta-rejecting you? Maybe they're just intimidated. Thanks for the perspective!
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:53 AM
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Yeah, one of my gay friends also has the same opinion. My plan is to start bulking up now, so that the more bald I get, the more ripped I get. Eventually, I'll be so bald that I'll be better looking than I was with hair.
/r/seduction02/09/11 01:28 AM
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Awesome! Now I'm really looking forward to the feeling of air (or woman hands) on my skull. This is a great look at the positives of being bald. I guess my personal archetype of a 'good looking male' has always been one with a full head of hair, but this is of course not the case for everyone, including many girls. I'll just have to change my own mind.
/r/seduction02/09/11 01:27 AM
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Fine, fine, I'm definitely thinning though. It's pretty apparent now that my hair is short
/r/seduction02/09/11 01:21 AM
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Haha, it's not at all apparent when I have longer hair. I just got a haircut, so it's pretty easy to tell now. I'll show you tomorrow.
/r/seduction01/09/11 10:54 PM
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Yeah, I fully plan on shaving it in a bit as well. I'm still at the point where I can sustain medium length hair without it looking weird, though.
/r/seduction01/09/11 09:06 PM
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Thanks! I'll check it out. I have noticed that I look pretty good in a hat, but I'd rather retain the belief that I'm intrinsically attractive regardless of my hair situation.
/r/seduction01/09/11 08:48 PM
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Yeah, a couple of times the girl just gave me nothing, but I made it a point to try to get a reaction out of them (good or bad). I firmly believe that you can make your own fun as long as you find the things you say and do amusing.
/r/seduction28/08/11 03:32 AM
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Nice, dude! Why didn't you bring her with you to meet your friends?
/r/seduction27/08/11 10:01 PM
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Thanks! Yeah, finding a topic is hard. I did a lot of what you do, actually, where I pointed out some of the things the girl does. I found that doing this with a 'you're a strange person' frame works pretty well.
/r/seduction27/08/11 08:59 PM
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Sounds like an awesome night, too bad absolutely no one from the South Bay could make it ;)
/r/seduction27/08/11 06:28 PM
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Wisdom. I'm gonna try and plow and stay in a good, relaxed mood the next time I go out. Are you coming out this Friday?
/r/seduction26/08/11 07:20 AM
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I'm very similar to you in that my highest value is rationality, so I also strive to have my actions logically consistent with my desires (and my emotions in line with what I want them to be). This part can probably be skipped over, but it is interesting One way to think of the brain's emotional center is as a multi-channel, graded output of a Bayesian inference machine which tries to guess the state of the world based on its model and from the input coming into the five senses. This model is de…
/r/seduction24/08/11 07:58 AM
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holy shit, you're a clone!?
/r/seduction22/08/11 01:21 AM
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Haha, nice strategy for plowing! I'll have to try that the next time I get the cold 'Nice to meet you?' BTW, what happened to you man? I miss having you out in the field.
/r/seduction22/08/11 12:49 AM
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Fuck yeah, I am a couple of cool cats who deserve all the bitches.
/r/seduction22/08/11 12:46 AM
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Haha, thanks a lot! The stick in my ass is the nagging feeling that I'm somehow screwing up the social interaction, and it chafes like sandpaper. I'm starting to agree with you more and more on the 'not giving a fuck' mentality. This does assume that I access some mode of behavior which is attractive to girls when I don't give a fuck, but I'm not sure that pissing on the floor of the bar whilst loudly screaming 'Jesus Christ was a liar' is the one. I had a fun night tonight with good friends (bu…
/r/seduction21/08/11 11:45 AM
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You're probably right. I'll start drinking again once I'm confident in my ability to open without being high on some kind of drug, but I won't let my desire to prove something to myself cause me to lose sight of the fact that our primary motivation is always to have fun.
/r/seduction21/08/11 12:06 AM
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I didn't want to use it as a crutch for having fun and getting into state.
/r/seduction20/08/11 10:12 PM
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Thanks! I do give up pretty easily, leaving when the girl says 'Nice to meet you,' or ignores you is probably too soon. That's an awesome point about the rejection, I would enjoy myself a lot more if I tell myself that I'll stay in set until she is forced to blow me out. Aw, man! I'm totally going to renege on my previous promise to go with you on your awesome adventures! I promised my friend that I would go to her going away party, but I'll definitely try to adopt this attitude there tonight.
/r/seduction20/08/11 08:45 PM
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That's a really interesting point. I do have a naturally deep voice, but I am nervous when talking to people. My main problem is with projecting. I can't talk loudly without straining both my voice and body, which probably exacerbates the nervousness.
/r/seduction20/08/11 08:33 PM
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Yeah, I definitely tend to overthink things. My job requires often requires me to enumerate the possible behaviors of complex systems, and this carries over into my personal life. I convince myself out of a lot of opens this way, but other times I'll kind of have a 'grin and bear it' mentality, both of which are suboptimal. I am genuinely curious about people, though, so hopefully I don't come across like I don't want to talk to them. I'll try the eye contact and posture exercises. I notice that…
/r/seduction20/08/11 08:31 PM
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Thanks! This is exactly what I'm looking for.
/r/seduction20/08/11 08:10 PM
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Aw man, I was imagining some kind of Pulp Fiction-esque briefcase, but all it turned out to be was a girl.
/r/seduction20/08/11 07:44 PM
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I'm incredibly curious as to who or what [REDACTED] is
/r/seduction20/08/11 07:23 PM
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When I read your FRs, it's like Mufasa is telling me "all this will be yours someday," and then I run around on top of all the giraffes singing "I just can't wait to be King!"
/r/seduction20/08/11 06:56 PM
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Awesome FR! The set I winged you on was probably my best set of the night. It flowed so naturally from a group conversation to isolation. I've learned my lesson; the next time you stumble upon some strange adventure, I'm coming with you.
/r/seduction20/08/11 06:42 PM
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I need to see some proof of this
/r/seduction18/08/11 02:13 AM
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It's definitely true that coming in guns blazing can force a woman to make a decision about you, but in my experience the girls I go direct on will stay to talk to me. You left because you saw that there was absolutely no circumstance in which you and that guy were leaving the bar together, whereas a girl simply doesn't have enough knowledge about you to make that decision if you approach in a confident, direct manner. A couple of times that night I approached girls with 'Hi! You're cute.', and …
/r/seduction17/08/11 01:18 AM
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This is my best guess: we shouldn't advocate unreactivity so much as we should advocate selective reactivity, in which we only react to those responses from others which are in line with our desires (emotionally, logically we should take these reactions into account and calibrate, but it is exceedingly hard to separate thought and emotion). In doing so, we re-affirm our reality, enjoy the feeling of success in pursuing our desires, and build momentum. I think the fact that this seems like 'twist…
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:12 AM
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I've got a few tidbits. Take from them what you will, since being funny isn't the be all end all of pickup, but it is one of the main reasons I got laid in college (that, and my impressive math skills). How is your friend circle? If you are the 'funny guy,' and are surrounding yourself with the right type of people, you should be getting awesome introductions and social proof whenever you roll with your friends. Also, at a fraternity, new women are showing up at your doorstep on a weekly basis, …
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:17 AM
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I totally agree with you that there are inherent contradictions in the inner game dogma, but I think that those contradictions might come from contradictions in its Buddhist underpinnings. One aspect I'm struggling with now is the idea of nonreactiveness. It's all well and good to say that one's emotional state should be nonreactive to the environment, and that we should draw good feelings from within and pursue our desires purely, but I think that this argument breaks down in the face of positi…
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:29 AM
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Yeah, attractiveness to women is a set of physical and mental characteristics, one of which (arguably one of the more important) is the belief that one is attractive. That being said, I think that most people can get to the point where most females would find them attractive based purely on physical appearance just by working out and dressing well.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:20 AM
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Definitely. I've been reading a lot of inner game stuff. The problem is that many of the topics have inherent levels of contradiction built into them, in the sense that they are incompatible with a mind which is not prepared to accept them and their corollaries.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:54 AM
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Thanks! I used to do some stand up for shits and giggles, and before that I was always the 'funny guy,' so its something I've been working on for some time now. I've got a lot to work on before I can use humor to its full advantage in the field, though. The funniest thing a guy can do is make people trust that he is funny.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:51 AM
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Yep! Awesome advice. I should have definitely used it as an excuse to close the distance.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:43 AM
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Thanks! I'm glad you think so. It's amazing what you can come up on the spot with when you truly feel nonreactive. I think I'm just beginning to realize the mindset that I should have in a bar, and it's certainly not my usual anxious one.
/r/seduction14/08/11 10:14 PM
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Haha, right around when 'Baby got Back' started playing and the entire bar went apeshit. I sat down at a table with two girls who weren't joining in and started making jokes about how they must hate big butts. Then the conversation lulled and I fell asleep since I was exhausted from moving all day. A third girl joins and says to me 'Don't fall asleep!' I open my eyes and, feigning annoyance, say 'I was having a good dream... you were in it.' Built a ton of attraction, but given the lack of respo…
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:09 PM
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Definitely! I ended up getting a number close from a cute girl later on in the night who I opened by falling asleep.
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:00 PM
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Haha, you straight up yelled at me! I was saying that girls keep blowing me out because I can't hear what they're saying, and I think you said (paraphrasing) "What the fuck? If you can't hear the girl, lean in! Don't blame some guideline for you getting blown out. Just fucking approach!" You shocked me out of complacency, and I am grateful for it.
/r/seduction14/08/11 08:19 PM
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Nice! You were on fire last night. Thanks for calling me out on my bullshit.
/r/seduction14/08/11 08:02 PM
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From your post, it either seems like you approached some not-so-nice people, or that you have a body language problem. I've had similar blow-outs before, but I noticed that the way girls responded to me changed for the better when I changed my mindset on the approach. Imagine it from the girls perspective. If you approach with the mindset of 'I hope she likes me. I have to make her like me.' then she would definitely be a little weirded out. Instead, when you see a girl, don't think about how yo…
/r/seduction22/06/11 06:10 PM
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