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Women's primary attractive trait, the one that supersedes all others, is beauty. ​ So women who aren't beautiful are always going to reconfigure beauty standards in order to seem beautiful. ​ Men, on the other hand, can get women when they're fat, bald and short, so long as they have sufficient charisma, status, or money. Physical attractiveness isn't our one and only card, so when we don't have it we pursue other methods to be attractive. ​ That's overly simplistic, but that's the general thrus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 03:07 PM
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Body acceptance is fine but my main point is that there are other issues that will not be addressed because they go against the current oppressed/oppressor cultural narrative, even when there are legitimate gripes and injustices for people labelled the oppressor class.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:59 PM
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Because the left's cultural narrative won't allow it. ​ Activist movements are always couched in terms of the oppressed fighting back against the oppressor, and these days women play the roles of the oppressed while men play the role of the oppressor. When men start their own activist movements, which they have tried a few times before, the left re-frames it as a reactionary hate group, the media smears it, and the people themselves are ridiculed, regardless of whether they bring up valid points…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:49 PM
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You're trying to pick a fight where one isn't needed. I've stated what I believe. If you want to persuade me then try different methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 10:30 PM
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I don't really care about shame. I'm not going to slap a soda out of someone's hand to protect them from diabetes, no matter how warranted it is, and similarly I'm not going to shame the slut in the hopes to reform them. Actions have consequences, so life will hand out whatever repercussions are due without any extra help from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:42 PM
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I'm sorry but I don't want to hear excuses for that behavior. I have stated my perspective. You can call it "bonding" all you want, or use appeals to the primordial, but people are not admired for how extreme they indulge in pleasures; they're admired for their virtues. Hedonistic pleasure has its reasons for existing and a proper place, but it's foolish to think they don't come with a price or don't have negative consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:34 PM
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We tend to look back at our youth with the experience and wisdom we have accumulated since then and realize that we could have done better at the time. A lot of us have made mistakes, or missed the opportunities we should have taken, or cringe at ourselves for who we were. I think everyone feels that, or will eventually feel that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:04 PM
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I don't use it as an insult - it's just a person (usually a woman) who has a lot of casual sex. Whatever negative associations people have with that term come from themselves. ​ I don't call women sluts IRL because I don't know their dating history and don't want to know. But I see being a slut the same as someone who drinks every day, or smokes, or eats a ton of carbs, or doesn't work out. We all have our vices, and people with vices can still be good people, but I believe they are making a mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:34 PM
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I feel like, in a world full of easily-accessible and free porn, prostitution is a novelty and archaic. It probably isn't worth legalizing it at this point when technology is (likely) going to deliver on VR porn and sex bots. Traditional prostitution doesn't attract all that sweet investment capital like tech does, and the potential profit margins on VR/Sexbots are much greater. Add to that the lack of political will and legalizing prostitution becomes a non-issue, and it likely will never move …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:16 PM
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Nobody gets a user manual for life, so we all have to figure out how to act at every age. It's going to be a different vision for everyone. I think you can define for yourself what 30 means without falling into stereotypes. Accept that your life views and priorities are going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:26 PM
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How are guy min/max their STEM career not guilty of the same thing? Because they're being consistent with their personality. The STEM nerd is going to school, doing STEM nerd things, so he can make money and spend it on STEM nerd stuff, and hopefully get a wife to make STEM nerd babies. Going to school, to make more money, to support a wife and family, is consistent line of reasoning with his goals. That contrasts with those particular women that party it up in school and then want to be seen as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:54 PM
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Based on my current life path, I plan to have my first kid by 35, but if I had a time machine then I'd endeavor to have my first kid at 28-30. I want to be young enough to have the energy to keep up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:41 AM
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Yeah, I get it. I understand why. Security is pleasant. When we get older, we value that over excitement. ​ I don't have a problem with that, because it seems like the natural inclination, but I don't appreciate how (some) women feel so blase about trying to have their cake and eat it too. I get the impression that they try to min/max their lives, going full bore into the party scene to make the most of it, then doing a radical change to become wife material later in life to maximize their marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:26 AM
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TRP tends to focus on quick sex because that's what most guys want when they discover it. They're typically younger and in college. It is the foot in the door sales tactic for a larger philosophy on women. I believe that, not only compatible with long term relationships, it's absolutely necessary to maintain them. I suspect that your relationship with your coworker might be an example of that. You have good conversational skills. You have some charisma, but there is likely something you can impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:49 PM
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I dunno, you got lucky? Figuratively and literally? I don't mean to belittle it, because this all reads like a positive experience for you, but the way you describe it doesn't strike me as bucking the trend or negating RP advice. She said she liked you as a conversationalist, which indicates to me she saw you as safe and non-threatening, which is the mode of dating for BP men - seem as cuddly and non-threatening as possible. That's great for women with anxiety or self esteem issues, but after th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:52 AM
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No. There won't be a shift. You have a few men doing it now, but it will always be a small minority. ​ Most trans women don't like like those pictures. That's the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:47 PM
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You don't necessarily need game to get a girl (quality notwithstanding), but you sure as hell need it to keep her. I have seen men from all walks of life ruing their relationships, or let their relationships get ruined, because they thought the two magical words to make every woman happy is "yes dear". ​ If you get right down to it, Game is just charisma, and charisma is incredibly useful in life. Men should learn it because it's a good skill to have, and a huge disadvantage if you lack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:40 PM
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So in summary, women select for height as a marker of good genetics, but height is actually an indicium of poorer health and shorter life expectancy. ​ Only recently has medicine advanced to the point where humans can live to 80 years old. Nature doesn't care that humans live long, only that humans live long enough to breed. A 6 ft man who's objectively stronger than his competition, but only lives till 40, is still a better prospect in the ancestral environment than the 5ft 6" man who lives to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:21 PM
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This sounds like terrible advice. Don't improve your defects, just play the numbers game. Quantity over quality. ​ OP, have you bothered to try this or is your view purely hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:17 PM
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You view ignores whether the perception of women is reasonable or not. Your view assumes that any woman's perception is already a realistic view of reality, and so men ought to match it, but you don't know if that's actually true. ​ I think that all men should strive to be better, regardless of whether they're even looking for partnership or not, and I hold to the idea that men should be the prize. ​ However, our perceptions of others are dictated by personal experience, and personal experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:22 PM
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Are men attracted to fertility markers or is attraction cultural? Yes. What do you consider to be markers of fertility? Proper waist/hip ratio. Symmetrical face. Good hair and skin. A lot of markers for fertility are going to cross over as good markers for health, because general health and good genes coincide with fertility. ​ The reason why men tend to desire younger women is because younger women tend to be more fertile and healthier. The commenters at at gender critical sound like aging spin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:06 PM
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Apologies in advance that I didn't read the full post, because I think the answer is simple. ​ People who go to college tend to think ahead toward their futures than people who don't, and they tend to pick their partners using the same mindset, which is why their marriages tend to last longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:56 AM
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If experience has taught me anything it's that easy things make you weak, and weakness leads to suffering. Certain things might sound like a simple solution without drawbacks but I believe that there are no shortcuts in life and eventually the negative consequences will surface. ​ Porn is easier than women, but real, physical women might teach you something. That something might be to your benefit later on. Don't use porn at the expense of yourself. If you find it useful then use it, but only to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:52 AM
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I mean, these things aren't double standards, and the people with them aren't hypocrites. ​ The person you date or hook up with means something different to you than the person you marry. These things have some overlap but they are two different contexts. Having different beliefs for two different situations is perfectly reasonable and not at all a "double standard". It's not wrong to accept someone who pushes the right sexual buttons but recognizing they're not a good investment, while deciding…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:44 AM
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Suuuper persuasive, ma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:24 AM
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Yes, you could be expelled from your social group for being a slut if your social group doesn't like sluts. From school? No, but then I didn't say that. ​ I didn't say that social status had anything to do with being a slut. I said that when girls compete for social status they easily damage their competition by calling them sluts. Slut became a derogatory term in part because women used it on each other, not only because only men used it. This isn't entirely men's fault. ​ Women need to take re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:51 PM
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Right. Youth sports. I grew up in the suburbs of northern VA, about an hour from Washington DC. Sports for kids younger than 12 were co-ed with the exception of football.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:41 PM
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Uh, no? Didn't you have parks and rec sports outside of school like soccer, baseball, and basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:12 PM
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Women do slut shame too, and their opinion isn't worth much either. ​ Not only that, but women slut shame the most, and the damage that other women can do to your reputation surpasses any opinion a man might have of you within your social group. Why not turn your sights to your own sisterhood before chastising us? ​ Because I mean, if a man shames you for being a slut, what exactly comes of it? He won't have you for an LTR, but he still might have sex with you, and as a slut that's a win since t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:09 PM
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I recall playing coed sports in elementary and middle school, which is the exact time frame I was referring to in young boy's development. So my point still stands, but thank you for your input. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:54 PM
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College and pro sports have not been watered down, have they? They don't have coed teams, do they? That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:44 PM
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That's what we used to do. ​ We encouraged boys to go into sports, but then the girls wanted to play, and the parents wanted coed teams, and the boys roughhoused too much, and the girls were at a disadvantage, so school admins put in special rules to make it fair and safe, which made the games boring for boys and they could no longer be what they were. ​ Boys used to learn conflict resolution their own way, which involved physical violence from time to time, because boys and men are the sex that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:41 PM
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When you said "A series of gender cults has arisen since 2012", I immediately thought Tumblr. You want to talk about loyalty to dogma, loyalty to leaders, expulsion of all dissent? Tumblr trans, pans et al. are the groups that come to my mind. ​ The whole "Ideology X is a cult" is so overused that it's tedious at this point. Are you telling me that people gather together because they adhere to a certain worldview and have a certain philosophy of how you should act, and that if you don't adhere t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:00 PM
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I don't really care for more income. More income just means more money to spend, which only makes other people richer. I don't buy into materialism. Stuff doesn't make us happy. ​ And intelligence is fine, but it has diminishing returns. People who are really intelligent tend to have big egos and are disagreeable to the point where they're annoying to be around. ​ My feelings on the matter is that careerism is just a motivational trick to get people to work harder when they don't have to. New ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:44 PM
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To me, the Blue Pill is this weird amalgamation of PC culture, advertising, Hollywood, and the hippie generation that came mostly out of America in the last 50 years. The Boomers experimented with free love, female empowerment and male androgyny in their youth, and then taught their daughters to be more assertive and their sons to be more submissive. Maybe it was a noble attempt to give women a leg up in the battle of the sexes or something. Hollywood framed women as always right and men as eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:35 AM
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Assuming there is no attractiveness scale, that everyone were equally attractive and had an equal chance at getting a partner, having lower birth rates would still leave some men forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:47 PM
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Work out, dress better, be charming, make money. Is that really controversial? We live in clown world, so yes. It is that controversial. It really is that surprising. If you were to show TRP to your great grandfather he'd laugh at how simple concepts are given such gravitas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:42 AM
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50/50 is only accurate if people date people their exact age, but they don't. Men date younger women and women date older men. As birthrates decline it means men have fewer women to choose from, and the smaller number of women have more men to choose from. If you assume that human beings are the exact same quality (which they're not), this situation would still lead to more incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:39 AM
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It's okay to be lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:42 PM
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I think you're looking way too far ahead. You can't get divorced if you don't get married first, and you can't get married if you don't get a girlfriend, and you can't get a girlfriend if you're awkward. The future is anyone's guess. Things could get worse. Men and women can drift apart from each other and live alone with their porn like they do in Japan. Or, there could be a reaction to it and people give up Tinder, clubs and sports bars in favor of group or casual meetups. The sexual marketpla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:40 PM
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I'm not concerned about it being read as cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:16 PM
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Eggs are expensive. Sperm is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:00 PM
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In philosophy that thinking is valid but not sound. It is valid that (nearly) every man is a potential rapist because they have the physical capacity to rape, but then so does every woman. (Nearly) every human being has the capacity to rape, murder, torture, enslave, etc. So in the real world, that kind of thinking isn't very practical. This supposed woman having a very selective and inconsistent application of this very narrow logic is likely doing it out of prejudice, personal grievance, or pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:56 PM
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Though not always invalid either. Whatever works works whether it's natural or artificial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:19 PM
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Look at it from an ancestral perspective. Ask yourself this: through most of human existence - from hunter gatherers, to farmers, to the recent past - how many naked women would a man see in his lifetime? How many naked men would a woman see in her lifetime? How many times would they have been able to watch two other people have sex? What kind of sex acts would they have been able to actually see? Humans have been exploring sex since the beginning, and our ancestors did a lot of weird stuff as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:02 PM
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I really hate low-rent posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:15 PM
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Disagree. There are hot men out there that initially get a woman's interest, but they become really, really beta and supplicating, which causes a breakup when she is thoroughly disgusted with him. I think a lot of women out there have a story of going out on a few dates with a hot guy only to see him act really cringey in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:10 AM
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Yeah, it'd say it has worked for me. I apply it to relationship maintenance - I met my GF before TRP and made her my wife after. I used clown game to charm her then a combination of the other concepts here and there. Holding frame and not being submissive is absolutely essential for a man, because I haven't seen a healthy relationship where the man acts like a kid and the woman acts like his mom. RP success can look like anything. Getting a lot of women, holding onto an existing relationship. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:03 AM
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I can't say if you've grown up because I don't know your age. And I can't say if your real world experiences jive with TRP because I don't know what world you live in. If you live in rural Wyoming then TRP isn't going to seem as true. If you live in LA then it will be very true and confirmed on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:55 PM
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There's one big issue with this strategy, especially in today's society. How can you be so sure that the girl you think is "not like that" actually isn't like that? You may be so sure that she isn't like other girls, but you've simply fallen for an illusion, a facade. Do you realize that the problem you've pointed out applies to all deceptive humans in general and not an issue of sex? Psychopaths are really great at showing the kind of personality that you want to see and then manipulating you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:51 PM
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You can keep your house maintained all you want, but if all the other houses around you are declining then your property value will fall and eventually you'll never be able to sell it. So what are you going to do, cut your neighbor's grass, paint their house, trim their bushes? It's not your property. The only reasonable position and practical strategy is to move. You can't change other people. You can't alter the way the winds are blowing. So if you don't mind your house's value declining then …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:40 PM
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Yeah, I have no problems with living with TRP, but then again I'm married so TRP is more like relationship maintenance. TRP is useful because enables you to understand what's attractive to women in a general sense, but then it's up to you how you'd like to apply that information. Ideally, you use it to get a few notches, go on a few dates, try a few relationships so that you can understand how women differ, then use it pick what kind of woman you want from the pack, and to finally keep her. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 01:15 PM
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Women want to be caught, but not by everyone. Being caught by a low value loser is a detriment. So, they want to separate the wheat from the chaff. Women send out signals that high value men can interpret correctly and low value men will interpret incorrectly because it's advantageous for them. If you can't read between the lines or pick out the subtext of a woman's advice then it will lead you down the wrong path, and that's a feature, not a bug. That's what shit tests are for. That's what advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 01:49 PM
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I think if a woman presents herself as an easy lay then she presents to the world that she doesn't have very high standards for herself, or that her only value is a having a wet vagina. People who are of higher market value tend to be have more restraint and caution when it comes to the people they sleep with because they know that giving it up for cheap means you're low value. Sluts are shamed because sluts are low value by their nature of being sluts. You're right that it comes from everywhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 03:01 AM
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Yeah I would in the general sense, but with anything there are exceptions. Is she a virgin because she doesn't bathe? If so, then no. Is she a virgin because she grew up on, and then had to take over, the family farm and had no opportunities to date? If so, then probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:44 PM
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Wow. Talk about going 0 to 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:34 PM
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All single men just want to get laid. If they say they don't want to get laid, they're working the "I don't want to get laid so trust me" angle. All men want to follow the path of least resistance, especially to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:40 PM
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I'm not against lifting, i did it for 8 months 8 months? Dude that's nothing. You need to lift for years and make it a habit, because lifting is good exercise, it increases your metabolism, makes your bones denser, levels out your hormones, and makes you feel good. but i'm living on a budget while being a student in an economically fucked country. You don't need a gym membership or expensive equipment. I have 3 pieces of equipment at home: pull-up bar, dumbells which let me swap out the weights,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 04:18 PM
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You're on the wrong subs, or you just haven't looked for them. r/nicegirls and r/tumblrinaction have some good examples of women hating on men. Also, #menaretrash is a pretty widespread meme at this point, but I bet you've never seen #womenaretrash. I'm not saying that women don't get bullied, but if you think that this is one-sided then you haven't been looking hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:56 PM
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The incentive is to be open and honest with your partner, the benefit being you don't have to keep the truth from them and you won't have a secret to hide. The detriment of lying is that you live on borrowed time, because if they ever found out then your deception, not necessarily the content of the lie itself, would ruin your relationship. So roll the dice at your own risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 05:07 PM
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I don't think there is a mechanism where you can actually physically control whether anyone has sex or not, barring some dystopian technology. But we're all social creatures and social acceptance can be used to modify behavior. One of those social conventions that went out of style with gogurrrrlism is the idea that sex is something to respect. Instead, it's reconfigured to be an entertainment activity to consume, no different than going to the movies or playing a video game. Virtues like modera…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 05:02 PM
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A man seducing a woman is difficult because women are the gatekeepers of sex and he has to prove to her that he has the physique, charm, courage, or status to be worthy of it. It's an accomplishment. A woman seducing a man is easier because, like I said, they are the gatekeepers of sex. They have many more options, because men like easy sex, as you no doubt have seen for yourself. It's therefore not an accomplishment for a woman to sleep around. It doesn't show any skill. For a lot of women, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:40 PM
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I'm seeing a pattern with a lot of these comments. I get a few replies like yours saying that my dad is a successful X and has a successful wife, another person says their dad is a workaholic and married a workaholic, another person says they brush elbows with millionaires and that those millionaires care about the status of their partners. But then I get other comments from men themselves agreeing with me, saying that status doesn't matter. I see the number of upvotes my initial comment, and on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:27 PM
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What about the people you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:25 PM
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Are they happy? How are their marriages? Just because they get together doesn't necessarily mean they're satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 05:32 PM
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All that matters is face frame muscles height and a big thick cock Assuming you do indeed work with millionaires on a daily bases, this is the internet after all, having the above and no money may get you a trust fund baby or street hoes. Having that and millions of dollars will get you swimsuit models. It's not an either/or. Money is a force multiplier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 05:30 PM
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Yup. Like I said. It sounds like she's out of his league. Men don't care about status or money in their partners. In fact, it can be a red flag if a woman is career or status obsessed. Many men would prefer the teacher to the doctor because it means she's more agreeable and isn't stressed from her career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:37 PM
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Online anyone can make any claim that they want. Heh, you're right on the money there, OP. I look at ego through the lens of who you can and can't criticize. Bashing men is something both men and women do, and men more or less take it in stride. But if you're not sufficiently supportive of women, let alone actually critical of them, then it becomes this big hullabaloo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:35 PM
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You explained it: 4/10 surgeon I know married a 5-6/10 teacher | 3/10 lawyer I know married a 5-6/10 SAHM If these guys are 3's and 4's then the money and status enabled them to get someone out of their league. If they were 8's and 9's, and were also doctors and lawyers, then they'd have models.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:23 PM
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MGTOW probably talks about women as a warning to others. At least that's what I gathered from them. TRP talks about women because the whole purpose is to get laid by women. It kinda comes with the territory. I don't really see what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 12:23 AM
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I agree. He's absolutely 100% right. When you try to suck up to women by "doing everything for her", it greatly lowers your status in her eyes. You've become submissive and subservient. Women recognize this instinctually. It's how they sort out the weak men from the strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:24 PM
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I think there will come a time when we look back at our "modern medicine" and realize that most of these drugs were a horrible mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:20 PM
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Why do some redpillers get so damn defensive whenever a woman says she wants a man with a decent income? We... don't? We recognize that hypergamy exists and that women are looking for resources. Who is getting hung up over this? Do you have an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:08 PM
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Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. “The best revenge is not to be like your enemy.” Your opinion is 100% within your power and letting resentment fester is going to ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:09 AM
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Still, it's not our responsibility to keep your legs closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 12:04 AM
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Yes, I believe that, on the whole, men are more romantic. Of all the things I've seen in real life and in fiction, it's always the men who buy flowers and chocolates, or plan these extravagant dates, or otherwise go out of their way to show devotion. Granted, a lot of that stuff is cringey and over the top, but I've never seen a woman do that ever. The only time conceptually that I think the roles are reversed is when a woman meets that 1 out of 100 men who is her alpha. At that point, she swoon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:19 PM
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Why is it our (men's) responsibility? Why is it that we have to control our behavior and not have sex with women to ensure their chastity? Why not have women control themselves? In forming the question in such a way, you have reinforced the idea that women have no agency over their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:07 PM
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Not necessarily, but I won't repeat myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:50 PM
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I don't answer loaded questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:43 PM
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Some people have one kid for economic reasons. Some people have one kid for environmental reasons. Some people have one kid for biological reasons. Putting it all on the fault of kids being shitty is lazy scholarship. And unless you have the personal experience of raising a kid then I won't consider you qualified and your view wouldn't have much value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:42 PM
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There is some medical truth to this. The reason why colds and flu suck so much is not because of the virus itself infecting our cells but because of the body's immune reaction to detecting the viral infection. The body increases temperature and causes inflammation to destroy the infected cells, and that's what makes us feel like shit. In addition to that, the body releases hormones that make us feel worse in an attempt to self-quarantine away from others. Men tend to have a higher inflammatory r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:23 PM
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I think the article is less about giving men actual solid advice and more about the writer reliving some of her personal internal stress by being semi-sarcastic. So, I don't think it's real, actual advice. Real advice would be this: Don't find your honey where you make your money. I.E. stop trying to date or hook up with people at work. Remain professional at all times. I.E. stop trying to impress people with your one liners and jokes. Don't put yourself into situations in which someone could cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:16 PM
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I think that in any discussion about having kids, the only people you should really listen to are people who have already had kids, because they are the only ones who have actual experience on the topic. Asking child free or a single person about kids is like asking a virgin for sex advice. So, OP, do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:07 PM
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People age well if they take care of themselves, but women have a much shorter fertility window. This isn't some feel good nonsense, it's human biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:04 PM
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Are you secure and man enough to look past it? Oooh, you had me until there. I don't do loaded questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:02 PM
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Regardless, female gene quality matters less than male gene quality. Where'd you get that idea? And why do you think that's true? Because as far as I know if a woman has shit genes then her kids will have shit genes too. And that whole superior genes thing goes out the window when you consider the effect modern medicine has on the gene pool. Many people who reproduce now wouldn't have survived long enough to reproduce in the past. So how consistent is your belief? If you don't think the average …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:57 PM
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Funny considering the Manosphere is a salt mine. That doesn't explain your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:46 PM
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Wow, you got salty real quick. Everything okay? Aaaaagain, it's not hypocrisy. Then don't complain when you're not getting laid any time soon. Happily married. I get laid plenty, but I sincerely appreciate and thank you for your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 02:19 PM
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It's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is when you tell someone they should not do something that you yourself do. I don't know what's with this sub and throwing around that word at the nearest hint of any kind of inconsistency. That's not what the word means. And it isn't inconsistent either. There are women we want to play around and have fun with, and there are women we'll settle down with and get married. Women have the exact same feature, so let's not judge too harshly. And obviously sex is importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:56 PM
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I'm not sure why you're confused. If a man wants sex, he has sex with sluts, and he generally likes it. But he's not going to wife-up a current or former slut, or at least he shouldn't. You're mistaking that for hate, but that's generally not true. We like easy women for sex, but that's about it. If you want more investment from us then we have to confident that we're not wasting our time, and sluts are perceived as a flight risk. If we truly hate anything then it's easy women who suddenly have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:22 AM
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All women capable of reproduction have inherent value, but that's not true for men. That has nothing to do with the quality of her genes. Better to die free than live in tyranny. And much better than negotiating with domestic terrorists who hold civilization hostage in a selfish bid to pass on their unwanted genes. You can think of that however you want, but it's the reality. If men don't get their way, they stop working, or they riot. If you give men nothing to lose then they'll burn everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:15 AM
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Well, for one these men aren't genetically inferior. They are just average. If that constitutes genetic inferiority then most women by extension are genetically inferior too. So it cuts both ways. And two, if the majority of men aren't satisfied with how things are then they'll turn over the apple cart. You can't really follow your biological imperative to the fullest when society is in flames and you're afraid for your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 01:50 PM
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True. Women tend to care about looks, status, income, charisma, intelligence, among a lot of other things. But the thrust of the argument is that women can fall into the trappings of vying for top-tier men that are way out of their league. Now, I don't think it's a problem; it's just human nature. But the combination of hypergamy and hookup culture is what's really toxic, at least in my opinion. An average-looking girl, a 6 maybe, finds an 8 at the bar. He takes her home and sleeps with her, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:32 AM
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Yeah, I can definitely see how it came off that way. I should have been more careful with my word choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:06 PM
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I think you misunderstand the context of what I'm saying. My statement was a direct answer to the OP's question: "what's so bad about hypergamy". It wasn't to say "this is what's happening right now this second", but more couched in "this is what would happen with hypergamy." I'm not intending to say that the average man is an incel, but I would say that the average man is having a tougher time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:00 PM
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It's not false. You've basically agreed with me. When men still pair up, get married, have sex, and have kids, they become tame. That's exactly what I said. But if the tide keeps shifting, if hypergamy continues to run rampant, and the average man becomes disaffected (which is becoming the case), then they'll get sick of it and tip over the apple cart, which is what we're already seeing. It would have been inconceivable years ago that incels would shoot up a frat house or drive a truck into a cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:50 PM
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OK Cupid is one data point, but no, I wasn't thinking about that. Use some deductive reasoning. If women are always looking up in status for their mates, and they do, then the real world behavior of that is they will try to get an 8-10, even if the woman herself is like a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:48 PM
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People who have a semi-normal life don't tend to become political extremists. Rather, the people who have nothing to lose tend to become radicalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:21 AM
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Men desperately want to have a strong feeling of brotherhood with other men. Whether that's a fraternity, or in the military, or whatever. We need to have spaces away from women where we can simply be men in our natural element, without competing for status or female attention, where we don't have to be ON all the time. But some women absolutely hate being left out of fun things, and the idea of male only spaces is not politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:14 AM
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Because the vast majority of women fight for the slim minority of elite men. This leaves the vast majority of average men with no one, which causes them to work less because they don't have a family, check out of society, or simply burn the place down. Everyone's so afraid of the alt right and neo nazis these days, but if those particular men had a girlfriend and a steady job then they'd focus on that instead of politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:06 AM
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You can't rely on someone with BPD going out and getting a diagnosis for it. Something REALLY BAD has to happen for them to see a psychiatrist/therapist/whatever, and it's usually against their will. Soooo, while you have a point, it doesn't help us in the real world, where we can identify the symptoms and make our own judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:17 PM
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Definitely looks. That gets your foot in the door so they can discover your personality. Whereas if you have a good personality but look terrible then no one will give you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:12 PM
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Desperation can definitely lead to investing too much into something, but you don't necessarily need to be desperate to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:37 PM
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Nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:35 PM
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I'm using the left as an example because the LGBQTP... list gets longer and longer, and the list of genders gets bigger and bigger, because every special person in there wants their 5 minutes of fame. "Everyone look at meeeeee". If TRP did that then every subgroup would want game catered to their subgroup, and others would want game tactics catered to every subgroup. The expansion of potential combinations would cause game to become so complex that it would be an incomprehensible mess. So it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 11:13 PM
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Look, TRP isn't like the left, who need to spotlight every tiny niche demographic. A commentor or blogger isn't going to take the time to research how game applies to an XXY person on the off-chance that this individual will somehow come across their writing and support their Patreon or something. There aren't enough hours in the day to cater to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 11:01 PM
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may be as high as 2% of live births Again, why would TRP care about such a small number of people? Our advice is general for a reason - regular men picking up regular women. We aren't going to cater to the very minor exception. It's not a productive use of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 10:57 PM
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I look at it this way. Being frustrated by not getting a date is like a salesman getting frustrated when they don't make the sale. Sure, there may be times when it's justified, but most of the time it's not productive. Just work on your technique or find the right market, or give up sales. A lot of these frustrations come from either desperation or investing too much in the outcome. All of that is within the control of the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 10:49 PM
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Intersex people are statistically as common as red heads are in the usa. It's a nonsense statistic. How many redheads are in the US? How many are in Ireland? It doesn't even matter. Your source says intersex - as defined by medial professionals - occurs once between very 1500 and 2000 births. That's 0.06% of the population. And why would TRP care about 0.06% of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 10:36 PM
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Just because you're an athlete an famous doesn't mean you're alpha. He reached out to her. He asked her for pics. He was willing to fly her out. I can understand her confusion. She didn't expect someone else to start the conversation then reject her. But then again there could have been many other things said, and tabloid stuff like this isn't my interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:09 PM
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More spice doesn't always mean better food. Acidity is great, but so is umami, and even some sweetness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:33 AM
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In my opinion, women make an event out of food because they're always looking for fun. I also think they're arguably the more hedonistic sex. Men tend to be more practical. But I find that men tend to take a more systematic approach to food, and they can be some very good cooks. Unfortunately, I cannot think of a single woman in my life that cooks better than I do, and I'm faaaar from a professional cook. But I learn to cook from several fraternity brothers. It's a weird role-reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:30 AM
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Also you keep adding conditionals to justify. Back then it was contributing, doing good things, now it's having an ideal? Jesus!! what's next. Any more parameters to lessen more the right of others to consume planet's resource? So people who do not give you a answer that satisfy you are less deserving and are dysfunctional humans? They're not conditions to justify. They are examples that I gave you which show you the kind of thing I'm looking for. It's not a list you have to check off. They're i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:06 AM
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Maybe this will help. TRP talks a lot about Confidence, but it doesn't say a lot about Courage. Confidence is the absence of doubt - you know in your heart of hearts that X is true, or that you can do X. There's nothing to it but to do it. Courage is the absence of fear, or more accurately acting despite having fear. People generally need to have more courage and stop letting fear and anxiety dictate their lives. That more than anything else has made me more of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:42 PM
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That's a perfect good reason. Only one that does not satisfy you and directly confronts your views. It's not. Saying you don't want to die is not the same thing as saying you want to live, or that you live for something greater. I don't want to die, though I've made peace with it, and I want to live for a greater purpose. You don't. You just don't want to die, which is exactly what my main point was about, if you remember it. The social ennui, the lack of a greater purpose - these things will do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:38 PM
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Does going after what I want (a family, traditional wife, etc) make me blue pill or red pill? Counter-question: does it matter? But I think asking the question makes it blue pill. Don't worry about what people on the internet think. You know your situation better than anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:32 AM
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Okay, philosophy major, but you're still dodging the question. I've gathered from your statements in the previous days that when life is over then nothing matters. The extinction of humanity doesn't matter. That our individual lives don't matter. That eventually we all die and everything we ever did will be gone. Now, I asked you what reason you have to go on, and you said you didn't have one, only that: We're all going to die, no reasons to rush it. Well, that's not a reason to keep going. I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:04 AM
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You still consume resources and so will your offspring. I know. That's what living things do. I don't have any personal problems with it, so I'll keep doing it. My views are 100% consistent. Yours are not. I asked you why you keep living, and you gave me a frankly pathetic answer: that there's no good reason no to. But as a childfree, you know that answer is bullshit. You know that you are consuming the valuable resources of this planet, so if you don't have a better reason to live which justifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 12:30 AM
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But I don't share your ideology, so what would I? I'm having a kid, I have plans for the future, I really like humankind and think we have a the potential to conquer the universe. You're the backpill here. You're the one who needs to make peace with their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 06:40 PM
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Sure there are reasons to rush it. You're consuming the planet's resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 01:39 PM
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I have empathy for people who are frustrated with their lack of dating success. It's a perfectly reasonable and justified feeling. It's totally fine for people to feel disappointed when they don't get something they want. But I don't have empathy for guys being strung along. If a person wants a friendship to be something more then they have the obligation to take the first step. The more they wait then the more invested they become, and the more it will hurt to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 02:17 AM
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life script TM kool aid WTF is that? If you don't care what will happen to your legacy, and if you don't care what will happen to humanity, and if you're just going to be unconscious when you die, then why are you taking our resources? I'm not the kind of person to tell someone to kill themselves, because that's just wrong and cliche, and that kind of language isn't tolerated here, but I still have to ask: why do you continue living if it doesn't matter to you? If you're going to be unconscious …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 02:06 AM
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You watch/read too much propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:36 PM
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r/niceguys has plenty of examples of "nice" guys turning into monsters at the drop of a fedora. They're not honest. They may think they are but they're not. They're employing the sneakyfucker strategy instead of being direct - which is being honest. Befriending a girl for months and not asking her out when there is romantic interest isn't honest. Waiting around for her to get dumped only to pop the dating question isn't honest. Thinking that doing nice things builds up some kind of credit isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:35 PM
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Funny. The supervolcano Toba erupted ~75,000 years ago, almost destroying the entire human species in one go, and yet those people still reproduced and repopulated the Earth. Good thing they did, otherwise we wouldn't be here to complain about kids on the internet. But dat dual income. Muh happiness. You can't miss those vacations. I think the OP's philosophy is what's going to ultimately kill off the human species. Not supervolcanos, not climate change, not asteroid impacts or antibiotic-resist…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:51 AM
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Nope. I'd tell him his partner is looking for something on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:42 AM
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And women don't project? "Why don't men like me for my career? Why don't they appreciate my intelligence?" Everyone projects. I've seen it from male and female posters here, many times. You're not exempt from your own standards, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 01:49 PM
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Why would he need to if he can do it himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:20 PM
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How long are these relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:07 PM
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Bring on the nuclear apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:59 PM
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If you think stating the ability to change a tire is bragging then man have we fallen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:46 PM
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Me being masculine has 0% to do with my sex life. I like being masculine because it makes me strong, both physically and mentally, which then makes life easier. Here's an example: if I get a flat tire, I can change it in about 10 minutes. I used to do it a lot in college when delivering pizzas and I was able to get the routine down quick. After working out, I can lift tires, loosen the nuts, and jack up the car easily. After meditating and going through other hardships I have the mental fortitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 04:24 PM
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You are 100% totally in control of the partner you pick. You also dictate the terms of the relationship. However, if someone is preventing you from leaving through emotional or physical abuse, then that's a different story. And I don't think that meeting with disaster at some time in the past justifies further disasters in the future. They are not always connected. But you have to take responsibility for your choices and admit fault where it's appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 04:14 PM
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Does it just mean a hipster stereotype - i.e. younger guys with a beard and a man bun who's soft and effeminate? Kinda. Effeminate? Sure, but hipsters tend to work on their appearance. Soyboys are nerdy manchildren who don't work out or maintain their looks. Take a neckbeard, subtract the beard, replace their trench coat and katana with an unlicensed Nintendo T-Shirt and Switch. That's ya soyboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 12:51 AM
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People can wrap their children's accomplishments into their own egos, no matter sex or ideological affiliation. I've seen it from sports dads, dance moms, achievers and artists. It's a really toxic mentality to have to see your child as an extension of yourself instead of an individual that you are tasked with upbringing. If your ego is wrapped up in The Revolution, bashing the patriarchy, and showing others how progressive you are, then by extension your child is going to be conditioned (harshl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:16 PM
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You can ask this question about really anything. Everyone knows that sugar is bad for you and that exercise is important for maintaining health, so why are people still overweight? Why do people stay in crappy jobs when they know there are better ones? Why do people stay in crappy relationships when they know they can get a better one? Because it's human nature to resist change and become complacent with your lifestyle, even if it's destructive. You can't help the people who don't want to be hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:00 PM
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The leftover women are writing articles for Huffpo about how they can't find a good man. And you're off-base about these women being desirable. Women lose their value as they age. A 40 year old man can date anyone between 20 and 40. A 40 year old women can date anyone between 40 and 50. You're totally missing the age component here. A high SMV man can date a younger woman. A "high" SMV woman who's older has a lot less dating options. So they typically remain single for the rest of their lives, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 02:10 PM
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Happiness derived from material comforts evaporates once those comforts are removed. God forbid there is a disaster in our future which disturbs the production line.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:07 AM
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Who can honestly look around them and not think we're in a cultural or spiritual decline? What exactly has gotten better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:48 PM
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For me, that outlook mostly deals with education, making sure that smart kids from poor backgrounds get advanced placement and scholarships. I'd argue that, because of opportunity cost, getting a job can actually put them at a disadvantage when they could instead focus on education to become an engineer or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 01:28 PM
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Oh man, I've been waiting for a post like this. I'm both left and right. I'm left because: I think Climate Change is real and we should move to better sources of energy and more sustainable means of production. I think wealth inequality is the second biggest problem in the west besides Climate Change because the rich don't need any additional power or influence, and the poor will rebel if things get too bad. See the Genie Coefficient. I think we should have some kind of incentive or welfare syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:51 AM
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America's universities have a higher ratio of women to men. Do you see your thesis play out in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:23 PM
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IMO, that's an odd interpretation. From my time in the manosphere, these men characterize feminism as this monolithic antagonist that they must defeat, not something that they are subservient to. When they say feminism doesn't address women's bad behavior, they're not looking for approval from feminism to admit to the bad behavior; they're using it as a bludgeon against feminism itself, framing the ideology as hypocritical, or something like it. I think you're getting the intent wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:45 PM
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That's a very strange viewpoint that I haven't seen before. We're all going to come across ideologies and philosophies that we don't agree with, and many specific ideologies are in direct opposition to our own. That's just a matter of living life on this planet. Where does it follow that encountering an opposing ideology means that one cares what the other side thinks, or even further that you look up to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:00 PM
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OP is probably 22 years old with no kids and just got finished reading an angry blog talking about this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:00 PM
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What gene specifically are men lacking which makes them unable to parent? Can you cite the sequence? I'd be curious to know if you have any expert knowledge on that. But let's break this down. A newborn to 1 year old is actually pretty easy. They sleep the vast majority of the time until they need something and cry - at least that's what every couple with one has told me. In reality, the toddlers are the most annoying, and yeah they take mental energy. But once the kid is 3 years and older, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:58 PM
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OP, I feel your heart is in the right place, advocating for people not to ruin their bodies. However, obesity is a huge (heh) problem in the States and UK. For every 1 person trying a fad diet there are dozens of advertisers selling you sugar in some new and different form. People should be aware of their weight, health and diet. BMI isn't a perfect measure by any means, but you can't just do nothing. We don't expend the energy like our grandparents did in our day to day lives, and we have some …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:55 AM
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If their ages are 18-25 then they're young and immature, and that's how they execute RP concepts. It'll get more sophisticated as they get older. But in the end, girls just want to have fun. They're creating excitement and fun, and even if it's cringey it's entertaining. One thing is true though and that's you can't argue with results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:31 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. You've seen the evidence right in front of your face. We at TRP aren't just making stuff up. I guess the question is, what is BP ideology to you and why do you align with it? What about TRP as an ideology or philosophy that you don't agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:41 PM
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I don't think it's a good thing actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:01 PM
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Intermittent fasting and time restricted eating contribute to autophagy, which clears out old cells and contributes to longevity. Going without food for a time is good for you, and much better than 3 meals a day plus snacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:00 PM
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I don't think that women today conform to the functional female build, not when over half of women are overweight and a quarter are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:23 PM
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I think that's right. I doubt that the average man in ancestral times would have our hormonal profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:21 PM
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It sounds like you're just ahead of the curve. It used to be unthinkable that a woman would wear pants, and now it's normal. What woman or girl hasn't worn jeans before? There are certainly social conventions that were labeled before but with changes in environment and society those conventions become arbitrary. That being said, there will likely be some social rules that will never go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:40 AM
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In the ancestral environment, the vast majority of men had the "moderately muscular" look. That is what the normal male looked like after laboring in a factory or working the fields, and even further back by hunting. Today, you can only maintain that body type by going to the gym regularly and eating well. The guys who are overly proportioned, because they are a bodybuilder by profession, were just as rare in the ancestral environment as the skinny numale. The fact that women prefer this body ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:11 AM
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Because in a world that is increasingly automated and requires engineers, coders and scientists, IQ is going to have a much stronger influence on employment and therefore lifetime success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:06 AM
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The greater male IQ usually results from spacial rotational tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:04 AM
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I'll explain it. Gender and sex aren't the same thing. Your gender refers to masculine or feminine traits. Sex refers to your chromosomes. You can disregard your gender roles and still identify as a man or woman, because being a man or woman is a matter of biology. You just aren't a masculine man or a feminine woman. It really gets me how people are uneducated about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:59 PM
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Putting more effort into something that other people get effortlessly makes you appreciate what you've achieved and not take it for granted. If you think it's natural to feel resentment at your hard work then I feel really sorry for you. That thought process is pretty toxic and will only make your life worse. But this whole virgin/whore dilemma is only in your own head. Most guys only really care about the extremes and there's a lot of wiggle room to be whoever you want to be, so long as you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:38 PM
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So the reason is to self-sacrificially give a boost to other guys who haven't figured it out yet? Uh, yeah. Why do you think there's even a subreddit? Why do you think the manosphere exists? We come across this information and, instead of hording it for ourselves, we give it out so that other men can make their lives better. What do you think the whole point of this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:21 PM
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Your view is selfish. In one instance, the increased wussification leads to less competition for you, so you benefit at a personal level. On the other hand, wussification also leaves the overall state of men and society weaker as a whole. And women tend to get resentful when every man around them is a lesser-beta, and that resentment will transfer to you in the form of harsher personal shit-tests. So no, there isn't always going to be a net benefit from this. But all that avoids the question. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:08 AM
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Because men and women are different, obviously. A man with a high N count has shown some degree of skill. Plus, biologically speaking, it's genetically advantageous for a man to spread his seed. A high N count women has shown her lack of inhibition. She only has one womb, so there's no biological benefit to sleeping with different men. She does it because he's a hedonist and/or lacks inhibition, and those are red flags that indicate a man shouldn't invest in her. In the end, it's biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:26 PM
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if only one parent works (they would have to work more) I'm not sure if I believe it myself, but the one of the arguments made in the manopshere is that one of the reasons why a single individual cannot support a family in the modern day is due to women entering the workforce and driving down the cost of labor decades ago. In isolation, the idea makes sense from a textbook economics perspective, but with history, world economy and inflation I'm not sure if anyone can justify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:08 AM
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I don't really get this. I've tried reading over a few times. Maybe I missed a post somewhere. But as far as I know, no, we don't owe anything to anyone, an explanation, justification, or otherwise. It's a courtesy to explain yourself to others, especially when disagreeing, but time and energy are limited resources and no one else has the right to dictate how we use them in our leisure time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 08:42 PM
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Not sure how it works in Eastern Europe when it comes to social programs but in the US we don't have anything that assists family formation when you're working. You have to pay for private daycare if you work, and the US doesn't have a culture of keeping grandparents or extended family around. That means it's you and your partner working hard to pay for the daycare to raise your kid. It's a situation that's very stressful and doesn't give you a lot of time to bond with your own child. So a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 04:30 PM
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It's probably better to explore the concept not by defining it, but showing how an alpha widow would be created. In the process of living up her early to mid twenties, a girl finds an athlete, or a musician, or maybe an MMA fighter, or a drug dealer, DJ, race car driver, whatever. The profession doesn't matter, but he's not like other guys and it interests her. To her, he's really exciting, maybe even a little dangerous. To him, she's just some annoying chick among the dozens of other annoying c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:26 AM
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Anything athletic. Look at all world records set in sprinting, long distance running, or anything that requires strength/endurance and they're all held by men. For example, the #1 100-meter sprint in the world is Usain Bolt at 9.58 seconds. The #10 100-meter male sprinter is Ronnie Baker at 9.87 seconds. The #1 women's 100-meter sprint is Florence Griffith-Joyner at 10.49 seconds. That means that the top 10 (or even more) of the men's top sprinters still beat the world's fastest woman. And heavy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:41 AM
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Well, let me level with you. I don't think about things in terms of principles like bodily autonomy, because as I've gone through life I've seen exceptions to every rule, causing me to drift toward a more consequentialist moral philosophy. In my view, it's okay to sometimes force people to do something they don't want to do, and it's okay to sometimes prevent people from doing what they want to do. Reality is messy and complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:37 AM
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I suppose bodily autonomy is doing what you want to with your body - eating what you want, doing whatever drugs you want, doing whatever activities you want. It doesn't mean that people, or the environment, cannot do things to you or demand things from you. And I think it is reasonable to demand DNA tests from everyone there. Say you have a rape case in which a woman claims that she was knocked out in an alley and raped, and security cameras on the street see 3 different men. Only one man could …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:24 PM
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It's reasonable, and it doesn't violate bodily autonomy. The police can demand a DNA test if you're on drugs, and they can demand a DNA test if you're accused of raping a fully conscious person, so why is a woman in a coma any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:12 PM
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Nope. 1) I'm not responsible for my ancestors 2) I don't believe that women selectively oppressed through most of history - everyone was oppressed through the majority of human history, and men and women tended to share the same fate within their social caste.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:08 PM
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Women on TRP aren't really welcome. TRP says don't listen to what women say, but watch what they do and act accordingly. So in an online environment like this, where we only have text to communicate, there really isn't a way for them to productively contribute to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:13 PM
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If he's hot, but no relationship material they can absolutely sleep with him solely for the sex without wanting him to commit. And if he falls in love it's just annoying for her, because she has to look for a new fuckbuddy. What you described is not spinning plates. You've described ONS or serial monogamy. They're not the same thing. Spinning plates is having multiple bootycalls waiting for you, and fucking them based on availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:43 AM
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Where do you all come up with this stuff? First, you didn't define toxic masculinity. How am I supposed to agree/disagree? Second, everyone seems to have different and contradictory definitions of toxic masculinity, and here on this sub it's been discussed with no definitive conclusion. Third, having sociopathic tendencies isn't toxic masculinity. Women can be sociopaths and psychopaths too. Fourth, there are plenty of other traits that make men CEO's over women, one of which you already defined…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:10 PM
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I take it that the OP is a woman in her early 20's or a man. Either case, they don't know better. There's a game tactic in which single guys will wear wedding bands for the purpose of picking up chicks, because any married man will tell you that, once you have the ring, women just seem to gravitate to you. Why? Because being married means you're not some incel weirdo. You're pre-approved. It also means you're not on the prowl, so you're not a direct threat. He's not pining for the lay. It also m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 09:14 PM
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I can't say I agree. We're all going to use more emotional language when we're in groups of like-minded people. It's a way to vent internal frustrations and venting can be useful and beneficial to our mental well-being. A lot of these men dated those kinds of women at one point in their lives and they have firsthand experience of the train-wrecks. Commenters are going to use language that both releases these emotions and convince the listener to avoid making the same mistakes. And I see plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:34 PM
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Yeah, why do you care? It's like defending narcissists, sociopaths or people with Histrionic personality disorder. These people can act like monsters. Beyond all that, show me where this is bad advice. Tell me why anyone ought to get close to someone with these disorders. Where's the benefit? Is this a white knight thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:23 PM
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Obsessed? Nah. If TRP is obsessed with anything, it's pussy. You tend to see the appropriate amount of material about girls with BPD as you would expect. People with BPD should be avoided, and while 1.6% may be diagnosed according to official statistics (or what I would believe are official statistics - you don't actually cite them), a lot go undiagnosed, and a lot more fly just under the radar of institutionalization and diagnosis, but still show BPD-like symptoms. You'll run into it eventually…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:54 PM
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Look, people are going to try to have their cake and eat it too, and people are going to get old and ugly. Those are just the facts of life. Some people throw the dice and win, while some people throw the dice and lose. There are women who are single at 40, after a long life of fleeting relationships, and they regret it. You'll find articles all over the internet, from Huffpo to Vice, to lamenting the dearth of marriageable men for educated, professional and older women. You all broadcast that; …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:24 PM
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Divorce. Not even a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:27 AM
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I'm not making excuses for anyone. Where did I make them? Point it out. All I said was that men like massages and dinners and all that, but that women generally don't do it. I'm not going into a dissertation on the causes because everyone has different relationship circumstances, but more because I just don't care. That wasn't the scope of my comment and I'm not about to waste more time on it. Sorry, but I'm just not that invested. You're the one who's injecting gender politics where it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:04 AM
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I ain't throwing any shade. I'm saying men like massages and dinners and all the nice little shit that partners can provide. I've been with my wife for 10 years and we do that kind of stuff for each other. Not my fault that some losers don't reciprocate, but you set the terms for your own relationships so you have exactly 0 excuses. There have been 2 kinds of replies to my post from women. One type that says "I do just that for my boyfriend/husband/whatever" and another type that makes excuses f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:10 PM
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You sound like a person with a lot of internal resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:40 PM
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For some it might.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:56 AM
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Look further back. Marriage is like step 5 in a relationship. Men find dates based on beauty, then relationships based on compatibility, then marriage on stability. Beauty is primary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:48 AM
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Men care what men like, and if someone wants a man they should therefore care what men like. It's little use for some people to wait until the statistical ideal age of marriage if their youth and beauty is not long for this world. You're effectively telling some young women to play dice with their lives - wait until there's a better chance. Well, maybe their best chance is now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:41 AM
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No anecdotal evidence here. It's a fact that we get ugly with age -unless you're saying we get more physically attractive with age. And it's a fact that men like beautiful women - unless you're saying that men don't like beauty. I doubt you would say the converse, which means, and you know it to be true, that these facts are indeed fasts. This is reality. All further truths can be extrapolated from those two points. All it takes is a little deduction. Her advice is general: marry sooner if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:33 AM
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Think of a man that you admire and that you would follow to the edge of the Earth. It could be a real life person or a historical figure. Hell, they could even be fictional. Then think about all the qualities that endeared them to you, qualities that earned your trust and admiration, and traits which make them a good leader. That's your alpha. I know a lot of TRP will disagree with me but I think alpha status is decided by men, while alpha qualities are attractive to women. TRP gets these mixed …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:30 AM
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She is right. You don't get more beautiful with age. You get old. Everyone does. We just get less attractive and our knees crack and body parts don't work like they used to. This is a 100% biological fact. Nobody cares when the prime age is for men and women to get married. That's not what she's talking about. She's saying if you're ugly you'd better partner sooner than later, because life is getting harder by the second. Again, that's just a fact. You're welcome to think that the prime age to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:21 AM
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Thank you for the anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:28 PM
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Men are doctors and nurses and vets and vet techs and zoo keepers too, but I never saw a woman on a construction site when I worked in the field. If the workplace death statistics are any indication, men do far more dangerous and physical labor than women do, since we make up the majority of workplace injuries and deaths. You seem to think that women can only be an elementary school teacher or babysitter. Nope. Never said that. You're just projecting the arguments of someone you want to argue wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 09:58 PM
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I don't agree, because I putting your foot down on certain things gives in impression that you're higher value than the hordes of betas who would agree and roll over. This is especially true when it comes to tolerating bad behavior. You actually more likely to keep a woman, and have her behave better, if you're willing to end the relationship on the grounds that she isn't fulfilling you. Don't waste your time compromising with bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 09:49 PM
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I'm not sure what response you're looking for from me. Men want women who restore their strength, not contribute to stress. But I'm curious, what kind of demanding jobs are these women working?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:45 PM
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If men enter relationships without outlining this/expecting this they have literally only themselves to blame. Can't argue with that. Men need to have standards, state those standards, and stand by them, otherwise she can take a walk. But I think so many men are desperate in this day and age that they accept some pretty terrible behavior, then wonder why they're miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:40 PM
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That's a good part of a stable relationship. Give and take. I'm sure your partner appreciates it. But I've seen relationships where everyone is out for themselves, and it's hell to live through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:38 PM
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Make our lives better, not worse, for one. A lot of guys work physically demanding jobs. Why not give a massage every once in a while? Why not make us a really good dinner? Pick something that refreshes us, allows us to relax, and enables us to attack the next day harder than the last. But women don't generally do that. I guess they think it's demeaning or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:41 PM
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Treating the top 20% of men like the bottom 80% is a feature, not a bug. Women test every potential partner. They need to. If you're attractive you get a lot more leeway, but don't expect to not get shit tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:28 PM
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does this ~feel~ inappropriate to you? Nope. Feels perfectly reasonable to me. I'd call that a fairly tame niche, and it's certainly better for your sexual and mental health than a great deal of other porn out there. most of the porn he watches is couples or gangbangs or whatever, never just a single girl Not to kink shame, but I'd call your bf the weird one if we had to line up your preferences and his, side by side. I don't believe that a man should consistently watch other men have sex with b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:01 PM
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How does TRP explain women who legitimately date/ marry down? One answer is: they have no other choice. I also personally know many girls who I went to high school and college with who are STEM graduates yet they have long term relationships with mediocre looking losers Are they in college? Are they in their 20's? If so, they're not looking for stable guys with long term prospects. They're looking for fun and excitement, and that's what the losers currently give them. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:51 PM
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Someone please explain this to me. Relations between the sexes have always been a prisoner's dilemma. Therefore, being 100% truthful, open and transparent is a disadvantage. Women give men false or incomplete information to weed out the clueless and beta from the list of prospective partners. It's not like women can take what they want directly by force. They've developed tools of deception and emotional manipulation to get what they want for thousands of years. That's why TRP tells men to not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 02:50 AM
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TFW what was once parody becomes reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 02:31 AM
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A jerk is someone who isn't afraid to hurt someone's feelings, but they're not malicious about it. They're there to tease you and prod your insecurities, but not to the extent that it actually harms you. It's all in good fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:21 PM
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TRP isn't about relationship advice. It's about seduction. You're trying to square a circle here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:17 PM
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Well, I have to hand it to you OP, there's a lot of things I agree with here, but not nearly everything. Yes, internet porn and the corresponding addiction is ruining a generation of young men. It gives them poor expectations about their partner, and it does produce a tolerance that forces these young men into more extreme porn. Yes, it seems that women aren't as affected, perhaps because of kind of porn they watch, or maybe it's decreased frequency, no one knows for sure. Yes, I'll even admit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:34 PM
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The school system is institutionalized feminism. It's also an incomplete and shallow argument to put the creation of Nice Guys at the feet of only one thing. Sure, it's the schools, but it's also Feminism, it's also Boomer parents, it's also the media, and it's also the general trend of weak young men to set themselves apart from their jock peers by exploiting the emotional angle. It's so many things. But if you want to know what role Feminism plays, just look at male feminists. They're Nice Guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:37 PM
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She would have to be athletic and have a good figure. I feel as if every woman is capable of that regardless of the rest of her physical appearance. If she's not so great in the face department then makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:45 PM
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The job market in the west doesn't provide most people with careers, with definitive path of promotion and status. Even if you get a job in science or academia, you're still having to deal with escalating credentialism and constant schooling. In reality, most people get jobs, and when you get tired of that job you get a new job. You do that until you're dead. But there's nothing wrong with changing jobs even into your 40's, so long as your income can support yourself. Having a successful career …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:23 PM
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It's easy not to hit on the women in my office. Just don't hit on them. Don't find your honey where you make your money. Keep all conversation professional. The problem that I find is that a lot of these women are distractions in the office when they decide to wear yoga pants or tight jeans to work. I work at a tech startup so the dress code is fairly lax, and I don't have a problem with leaving these women alone so we can get our work done, but when you shove an ass in my face it takes more of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 01:57 PM
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You're right, I got Okinawa mixed up with Osaka, but in Okinawa they do eat more pork that the rest of Japan. B12 isn't the only vitamin that plants don't provide, and it's actually not easily supplemented, unless you want to take B12 injections. Also, as an aside, why would the "natural" diet rely on pharmaceuticals to maintain health? Keep that in mind. Plants also also don't provide A or K2. Those are fat soluble and can only come from animal sources. You also have to realize that all these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 06:12 PM
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Why do posts like these never have a middle ground? Guys complain that their wives or girlfriends have high notch counts, and the rebuttal is "expecting your partner to be a virgin is wishful thinking". There is a huge grey area between slut and virgin that you've missed. The problem isn't that they had a sexual past. I honestly don't think anyone really cares because we're all sexual. It's when you have a slutty past that grosses people out. So look at it as a matter of degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:56 PM
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“Keto” works for literal weight loss on the scale only because the fat content allows you to maintain a high calorie deficit. You will never have a bodybuilders body by being low carb though. This is also not true. Fat has the highest calorie density compared to any other macro-nutrient - protein and carbohydrates - at 9 calories per gram. The reason why you lose weight on keto is entirely hormonal. Insulin is a growth hormone that causes glucose to enter fat cells as storage, but insulin also p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:04 PM
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The healthiest cultures with high life expectancy and low rates of disease all eat high plant-based, diets, with little amounts of meat (and really only fish). This is not correct. The highest life expectancy is Osaka Japan, where the natives eat pork and fish, but with a few cooked vegetables thrown in. The Mediterranean diet, which is also linked to longevity, is also high fat because of olives, olive oil and cheese. You have to understand that plants, just like animals, don't want to be eaten…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:00 PM
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I'd think it was a catfish, or that she's sending out a shit test to the internet. There's no benefit that I see from being that transparent, unless you're doing it for ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:30 AM
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Do you know how red meat is hard on those body systems? I'm curious. I know the carnivore diet is very extreme but people seem to fair better on it then going raw food vegan. That being said, I've heard that you should have a balance between omega 6 and omega 3 fatty acids, but chicken and pork have higher concentrations of omega 6 than 3, while beef has the reverse. I'd figure that beef would be the "healthier" choice in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:05 AM
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It's linked to almost every chronic disease. I'm confused. Are you talking about Keto or the 3 meals a day being lined to chronic disease?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:56 PM
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I don't think men really care all that much. It's women who care, and because women care men have to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:02 PM
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The increasing popularity is what got me into it, but I feel it is still not recognized by mainstream nutritionists, and it's definitely not part of the official nutritional guidelines in the US or UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 03:58 PM
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Because men are increasingly disenfranchised in their work and social lives. Their refuge is the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 03:23 PM
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TRP, or any Red Pill for that matter, cannot reconcile with the establishment because, if it did, it would no longer be "Red Pilled", according to Matrix symbolism. It would become the new Blue Pill. Which is fine in many respects. The Red Pill regarding health and nutrition is that red meat is good for you and a high fat diet is healthy. If the establishment acknowledged that then I wouldn't care if that particular Red Pill became the new Blue Pill because it would improve people's lives. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 03:20 PM
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Stupid. Source 1: Masculinity as a concept requires more social proof and that men perceive it as a threat when you tell them they aren't masculine. Okay, that makes sense to me, but so what? Source 2: Cites a single study that when women are told they're masculine, they're fine with it, but when men are told they're feminine they changed their behavior to be more masculine. They cite another study that men want to compete in dominance hierarchies (shocking, I know). And a third study that said …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:43 AM
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This isn't science. The article references an opinion piece penned by The Washington Post on their "Monkey Cage" board. That article does what a lot of posters here do: take a grab bag of psychological concepts found from free abstracts on the internet and try to shoehorn them all together into a hypothesis that would never come out of the mouths of actual researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:24 AM
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I think our conversation is deteriorating. Willingly paying money to sit in a movie theater and watch a horror movie is not in any way, shape or form within the same ballpark as someone sending you a horrific image over text. I totally understand and respect your stance on government intervention. I agree with that more than people who want to legislate everything. But on a personal level, I identify problems and I want them solved with the best solution available, and that does not rule out sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:56 PM
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The subreddit? No. I only read Heartiste these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:14 AM
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So in the end we'll have a large number of men that will be deemed genetically inferior with no other qualities regarded as attractive. These men will likely never mate. Why'd you stop there? What do you get when you have a high population of men who can never mate? What do they do? What happens to society when those men give up? What happens if those men decide to gun down frat houses or drive trucks into people? You stop at point C but you need to keep going. We have problems that we need to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:15 AM
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Is it RP who are fragile when they're concerned about their masculinity, or are the people who psychoanalyze them fragile because they put disproportionate effort into painting the other side as fragile? I also don't think the "Monkey Cage" section of The Washington Post is where they keep their Pulitzers. Fuck me. Everyone with a political opinion is fragile these days. Have you seen SJW's? What happens when you eat meat around a vegan? Have you tried to suggest the idea of getting a kid vaccin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:08 AM
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I wish they knew that our lives aren't easy. We deal with a lot of shit starting at adolescence and the world by and large doesn't care about us. In my more cynical times, I feel that what I'm about to say is true, but it's not an intellectual position, rather an emotional one: the whole talk about privilege is just projection. Women get so many passes in life that they take it for granted and superimpose those assumptions on men, because when they see a man at a higher status than them they won…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:17 AM
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Anonymous knows all and sees all. Fear us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 11:45 PM
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Dude, what's up? I don't get your reaction. This shouldn't be a tough topic. To some people, pictures of dead bodies or mutilation is way more horrifying than a penis or vagina. Sending them unsolicited can cause harm, and it's disrespectful, like a dick pic. So long as your cellphone is open to the public network, it is open to any pictures from anyone. This discussion is getting really tedious at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:49 PM
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The concept that relationships were somehow better when one person had to take the lead and the other person had to follow. Fair assessment. Some would say that all relationships need someone to lead and someone to follow, but that's a matter of personal preference. I won't comment on the effectiveness of any one strategy, only that: if it works, it works. Red pill is primarily concerned with how to keep men on the upside of a power dynamic during dating in a world where more than ever before yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:56 AM
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I don't even know what toxic masculinity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:10 AM
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So you make up a huge extreme to try and make your point If the extreme is what we need to find common ground and slowly walk back from there then I personally think it's useful to do so. It doesn't matter to me what age, sex or relation to you they are. I don't even really care if it's a naked body or an unsolicited picture of road kill, I still see it as a problem. There are plenty of mechanisms to deal with the problem and one of those is using the state. I wouldn't take that off the table. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:08 AM
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4chan is chaos. They troll what they can. Liberals disproportionately have power in media and in technology, and political correctness is the dominant social ideology, so they're going to troll it and seem right wing. If this was the Bush administration you'd be calling them left.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:50 PM
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They call it right wing but nobody has yet provided a connection. It's likely just 4chan or incels. I don't particularly care, nor am I really all that surprised. Of course cam whores don't claim their income. I don't really get why this is news. The war in Syria is still going on. Yemen is mostly rubble. The caravan is still at the southern border. I couldn't be paid to give a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:01 AM
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YES!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:25 AM
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I keep saying you can make a better version of TRP. It is possible. But I don't believe progressives can do that. A better version of TRP would empower men to be better human beings, but progressives, and especially ideological Feminists, believe that male empowerment is a direct threat to female empowerment. They believe both sexes cannot be empowered at the same time because power is a zero sum game and only one person can take it. If women don't take it, men will. If you give a leg-up to men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 11:12 PM
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Not caring or listening is being bad at it lol. Yes, that's what I said. I agreed with you and gave examples. I'm not sure why this was met with contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:59 PM
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Partially? Sure! Absolutely. He could not know what he's doing, not care, or just not listen. But then the issue isn't with men being bad at sex. It's them not caring or listening. That's also not what the OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:55 PM
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If you had a 13 year old daughter who was sent a dick pic from a 40 year old neckbeard, you'd feel differently. Don't trivialize this because you personally wouldn't take offense. there is no need to make this illegal as it doesn't actually harm anyone This is nonsense. There are already laws on the books right now which deal with this very thing when you're in person. If flashing your dick in public is considered causing harm, and it is, then the next logical step is to apply the same rules to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:52 PM
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I'm with you there, but my hangup is with defining it as unnecessary or not. We all have our opinions. Flashing someone on the street is a violation of the public space and our sensibilities, and it's treated (more or less) appropriately. Right now, our cell phones are open to any person sending SMS's on the public telecom network. They can send just about anything at any time. We've only been lucky so far that bad actors haven't gotten too bad, but this could be changing. This goes beyond being…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:40 PM
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OP is a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:59 PM
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Not this joker again. Do you ever get tired of making these posts beachredwine? You're projecting all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:59 PM
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I'm not ignoring it. I acknowledge it. They can do that, and it's bad. But if you're saying "we shouldn't criminalize dick pics because the cops can use it as an excuse to put you in jail and hide the evidence", then we can use that same reasoning on every crime imaginable. That argument is not sufficient justification to have this law, or not have that law. The cops have hid evidence in murder cases. That doesn't mean we should take laws against murder off the books. You pointed out a rape case…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:57 PM
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The police could potentially hide evidence of any crime, therefore it is not a rebuttal to this specific point about criminalizing dic pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:34 PM
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If women have trouble climaxing due to their biology then it's not men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:32 PM
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Sexual appetite and domestic violence are apples and oranges, and it's a really stupid comparison, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:20 PM
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I think you're trying to make something out of nothing. This really isn't a controversial topic in most relationships. Just pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:59 PM
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But I can say it. I don't care how much money my wife makes so long as she can pay the bills. That's the same standard that I live up to. I don't care if it's 40k or 60k. Just pay the bills. I can also say that I don't want a career woman and I can expect her to pull her weight because you don't need to be a career woman to pull your weight. They're not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:36 PM
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Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say? Black Dragon Blog says to cheat. The rest of TRP does not. If you can find me another source that says the same thing, then I'll be more likely to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:22 PM
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You could say that about any crime though. What's the point you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:18 PM
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It’s more of a caricature that highlights the core features better than a naturalistic portrait. No, it's a straw man, and it doesn't contribute to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:53 PM
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Now that's a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:35 PM
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Sexual assault only happens if you make physical contact with your genitals or theirs. It doesn't apply for text messages. Who said anything about a text conversation Well since the pics can only be sent through text, it's reasonable to assume that she would have asked for them through text. If she was present right there, why should she ask for a pic when you can just drop trow and show her the real thing? And I would think that every conversation that happened after sending the pic would put i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:01 PM
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Countless men have been saved from the courts because they had text messages to support that it was consensual. She can lie whether you have the texts or not, but it's better if you do, so do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:51 PM
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I'm not the one living in a dream world. There's no chance I'd be prosecuted for sending a picture of my junk to my then girlfriend, who continued to stay with me and likely fuck me during that time, with a stored and saved text conversation as evidence and context. Indecent exposure laws already exist and their limits have been defined. Sending dick pics doesn't seem to be essential to our society. We really don't need to die on this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:45 PM
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There's nothing you can do about that. That's life. But you can send her something like "Hey I had a great time last night" and if she says "Me too ;)" then you're in the clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:32 PM
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Wouldn't happen. I could charge her with using revenge porn and she would go to jail. Also, the context around that conversation would make it clear that it was wanted and I would have all the evidence in my text messages. The police would know that we were together at the time they were sent. I doubt any court would prosecute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:31 PM
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Hmmm, nope. Just because women don't always climax doesn't mean that it's caused by men being bad at sex (which, might I point out, is a generalization). Some women don't climax at all, ever. Some need a certain stimulation that penetration doesn't give. It takes more effort for women to figure out what they like, and women learning what pleasures them isn't men's responsibility. And I'm actually surprised that men are giving oral at half the frequency they receive it. That's way more than I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:27 PM
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Saying "Ew" or "Gross" or "I really didn't want to see that" as a text message, saved and unaltered, should be fairly convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:14 PM
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From what I can tell, if we treat dick pics as the same as indecent exposure - showing your genitals in public with the intent of sexual arousal or to offend - then it is a misdemeanor in the first instance but goes up to a felony in the second: Source. Some states make you a sex offender, some don't. If he was really offended and reported it to the police, and if he followed through with the charges, then it doesn't sound like he's my buddy at all. It's an edge case that I think would be so rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:00 PM
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It depends on how the crime is categorized, determining its severity. But yeah, that's basically how it would happen. I'm kinda fine with that. I'm having trouble finding good reasons as to why unsolicited and/or unwanted dick pics should be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:40 PM
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But you can't lump digital images with exposing oneself in person. Granted, I haven't thought about this issue much, but upon reading this I really think that you can lump digital images with exposing yourself. In both cases, dick meets eyeball (heh). Obviously, if she wants a dick pic then that's fine, but unsolicited dick pics are what we're referring to. If I had to compare two alternate dimensions, one in which sending dick pics was perfectly fine and one in which sending dick pics was met w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:19 PM
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when you have a bias in favor of men Prove it. You just asserted this with absolutely no evidence. Show me where I have a bias in favor of men, and no you can't just "infer" it. If anything, I have a bias in favor of my friend, because he's my friend, but not because he's a man. The fact that you blew up after someone mentioned that your friend might not be as innocent as he claims he is, is highly suspicious and highlights the bias that we’re referring to That's not evidence of bias in favor of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:25 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Now, I don't know the guy nearly as well as you do, but I would caution against characterizing him as chauvinistic. What can sometimes be perceived as sexism and domination can actually be from his internal insecurities. In my experience, men today are discontent with who they are, for a variety of reasons. It could be he has some issues to work through. Or he could be a narcissist. In that case, I would be looking for an exit, but don't count on me for relationship advic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 01:46 AM
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I appreciate the sentiment, but bare in mind that I don't believe in equality, nor was equality ideal for us to pursue. We simply want to have a functioning relationship and take care of our responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 01:39 AM
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Perhaps as a thought experiment, you could try momentarily disregarding the desire to be on equal footing with your husband, however you define that, and instead ask if he appreciates you, loves you, respects you, and supports you. Try couching your relationship with him in those terms and see if you get any additional insight. Personally, I have never accepted equality and never aimed for it, but do try to have a stable, harmonious life and that seems to do the job well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:14 PM
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The point I'm trying to get at is we already have concepts like mutuality, fairness, justice, and respect, and we can get a lot of mileage out of those terms when we bring them into discussions, and those discussions can be really productive. We don't get the same effect when we bring equality into a discussion. It actually stops us from getting anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:03 PM
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But by using equality you now have to define what valuable means. See what I'm saying? Equality is a middle man concept that always forces us to do more work than necessary when discussing things. By your definition, as far as I understand it, and I dont think you intentionally mean it, a wife bedridden with cancer and a husband taking care of her isn't an equal relationship because they are not providing equal value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:28 PM
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Equal doesn’t mean doing exactly the same amount of everything. Sure, but how am I supposed to know that? Everyone has a different definition of equality and that definition changes based around the context that it's used. I said to another commenter, who had the same objection: As soon as you bring up equality, you then have to define the terms of what's being considered, which can then be applied in any number of ways and many of those ways don't come out as equal. If Bob and Jim work at a fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 01:51 PM
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That sounds equal to me? Why do people think equal means "the same" or "tit for tat"? Because "Equality" is a meaningless concept. As soon as you bring up equality, you then have to define the terms of what's being considered, which can then be applied in any number of ways and many of those ways don't come out as equal. If Bob and Jim work at a factory, is it equal that they're paid the same per hour? Sure, in that context, but if Bob works 40 hours and Jim works 30 then their take-home pay isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 01:44 PM
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Men don't function on that paradigm. We want beautiful women because beauty is our signifier that she has good genes. You all have that function too, but it's way more important to us, for the evopsych reasons that you already know. On a personal level, maximizing my income isn't appealing to me - having a pleasant life is what's appealing to me. I work insofar as I can pay the bills and plan out my future but, beyond that, overall quality of life is my next consideration. Stress, anxiety, anger…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:28 AM
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Why is equality your ideal? It's a fantasy. It's an unintelligible goal that even people like Marx and Engels criticized as unrealistic and actually a barrier to achieving fairness and justice. No two people have the same physical or mental attributes. No two people have the same experiences or upbringing. No two people have the same strengths or weaknesses. We are all different to such a degree that defining equality one way actually creates inequality in other situations. For example, my wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:54 AM
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There was no evidence and he was with family at the time she said it happened so he was never formally charged with anything. That's why I get so mad at them forcing him to take classes. Giving him a citation or jail time would have probably been cheaper for him in the long run. I see that as an incestuous relationship between professional feminists and the justice system. The professionals in domestic violence make the guidelines for what constitutes domestic violence and punishment thereof, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:27 PM
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Why do you assume that she’s the true offender? Because I trust my friend. And I don't have empathy for her because much of the story I left out for brevity. She was raised in a ultra-religious Mormon household and got the idea from her deluded mother that she was destined to give birth to the next messiah. She became resentful with him because he wasn't worthy to be a father to the second coming of Jesus himself so she wanted to get out of the marriage as quickly as possible, which isn't easy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:02 PM
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Divorce cases aren't heard by juries. That statement makes me skeptical of your expertise. And sworn testimony means jack for perpetual liars. When it was all said an done, HER lawyer came up to him and said "just be glad you're out of there". She was crazy. She came from a super religious background and thought that she was destined to give birth to the reincarnation of the messiah. And who said that I believe every word he says? I'm not stupid. I know there are two sides to every story and I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:56 PM
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Why do you assume he's an offender when you don't know him? Why is your first response not - oh man that's terrible and I feel bad for him - and instead it's - well some offenders are really good at masking it. Why do you come to the defense of a woman you don't know and immediately become skeptical of a man? ^ This bias in favor of women and a defense of the system is EXACTLY what TRP is talking about. In our eyes, you're part of the problem. What's the issue with believing that there are bad w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:22 AM
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For starters, I define BP as conventional, politically correct and nonthreatening "wisdom". That said, I don't think any of it was good or helped me as I was growing up. I suppose the whole "respecting women" thing that the libs like to go on is more closer to right than wrong, but what makes women so special that they deserve respect? Just respect everyone. Be cool to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:12 AM
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My buddy is blue pill AF. Think of a nerdy guy who's into board games and Renaissance fairs. He's Mormon, so he doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs. If anything, he goes beyond respecting women to glorifying them. And he never told me what was in the classes, only that it was a waste of time. Given his gentile demeanor, I doubt he learned anything of use.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:05 AM
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So my question is why do red pillers feel angry when they are left by their spouse? We don't. We really and truly don't. After some time there is healing, we get over it, and we find someone else. That's not the problem, and it never ever was. The 50/50 split isn't a problem either. That's actually a pretty good result and TRP would applaud if that were really the case. But it isn't. The problem is that the system that is supposed to dictate what is fair in a divorce, isn't actually fair. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:58 PM
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Oh, sorry if I got my replies mixed up. I define "throwing herself at you" as someone trying way too hard to gain rapport. Rather than let it develop naturally, some people want to close the gap too early and too quickly. That can put others off. Most people are a little shy or apprehensive of strangers. You don't know if they're a threat or not. So, we typically approach relationships slowly. Someone who wants to get very close in a short amount of time sets off alarm bells. It isn't typical an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 10:59 PM
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Yeah, women playing hard to get is projection on their part, at least according to TRP. They want to chase men, so they assume men will want to chase them. They do things to men that they want to have done to them. But men and women take different approaches to dating. That will likely work against them. Unfortunately, I don't know what a good balance would be from a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 09:08 PM
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Or so you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:45 AM
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Yes, we really prefer agreeable women. No, we do not like women constantly henpecking us, belittling us, or battling for power. No, we don't tend to like women who throw themselves at us. Any sensible man would see that as a red flag. It's like someone giving away a free car. We wonder what the catch is. Crazy isn't attractive either. We put up with crazy because she's hot, until we can't take it anymore and flee with our lives, and a story to tell. We like the push and pull of flirting just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 11:41 PM
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I think it depends. A guy can live decades in that lifestyle but it takes only one event to make him snap. And the whole risk element doesn't matter if he has nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:40 PM
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Could it be that women have far fewer dating prospects after they get divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:52 PM
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No civilization has been poly for very long because men get disgruntled and turn over the apple cart. Pretty much every successful civilization has been monogamous or polygamous, but polygamy isn't very stable either. Sharing mates with other people will always open you up to jealousy and anger, not to mention STDs. The fact that people in the poly community have to actively work against their natural emotions means most people aren't cut for it, and exporting that lifestyle to everyone will res…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:59 PM
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What? That looks like word salad to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:47 PM
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To who?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 08:04 PM
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You're young. Don't get caught up on kid stuff. You have plenty of time to have fun, and being older, with more income to spend, means you can have better fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 08:04 PM
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Every time I hear this I ask the OP to look at what populations are doing the reproducing. They think the world revolves around Europe and Asia. Africa and the middle east are reproducing at 6 kids per woman. How about you tell them to stop? Nah. Can't do that. That'd be racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 08:01 PM
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It was quarantined because it was a threat to the feelings of soyboys and legbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 07:58 PM
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Yeah, beauty can be intimidating. But you can get over that. TRP says to treat every girl like an ugly girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:02 AM
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Your mother. Literally, I think a lot of this advice comes from our mothers. If you don't have a dad in your life, or a weak one, or a lazy one, or a beta one then you're not going to get the right advice from him as to how to attract women. Your mom is going to try to help you through the dating scene the best way she can, but she's got solipsism and projection and all the other biases that folks have. She isn't going to spill the absolute truth because women seem to be unable to articulate wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 02:12 PM
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Q4RP: Is it a womans insecurity that attracts you or something else. Would you class these women as insecure? Insecurity isn't attractive to me because I'm not someone who preys on the weak. Insecurity is definitely a red flag because it can lead to freakouts, jealousy, and yeah even cheating. What I like is a woman who's chill and reserved. I would say demure, but that alludes to the woman being shy and I'm indifferent to shy girls. Career women aren't chill, in my experience. Insecure women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:45 AM
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Heh, how old are your friends? If they're 18 then their opinions don't count. They have so few prospects that of course their friend's moms would be hot. But there's also the silver fox and daddy/baby thing to consider. Some women like older men. There are always going to be outliers in which a person looks really good despite their age. Thinking that the exceptions disprove the rule is a logical fallacy - the spotlight effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:36 AM
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Overbearing mothers. Weak fathers. Japanese anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:53 PM
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I don't need safe spaces. And it wouldn't be PPD with only Purples and Blues. What's your hangup? Why do you care that we're here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:52 PM
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If this isn't about MGTOW or TRP then what's with the title? I think you're backpetaling here. Don’t get mad at me because this is over your head. And quit being a defensive asshole just because I struck a nerve with you in an unrelated post. Get over it. I'm not mad. You're just projecting. Everything you just said is only what you're feeling within yourself at the moment. I am satisfied with how our previous interaction turned out. I told you that you were wrong. You went away. My comment to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:28 PM
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Climate change is real, absolutely, but the left doesn't have science on their side. They're ignorant of macroeconomics and human biodiversity. Just ask them about race and intelligence and they'll melt down. But you're missing a huge piece here. Conservatives have higher levels of threat sensitivity while liberals have lower. In times of social chaos or war, people go conservative, while in times of peace, people go liberal. Women are way more open and welcoming to the poor and downtrodden, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:22 PM
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First, I didn't make a bogus argument. I clearly quoted you. Second, you're the one who's projecting here, not me. And third, like I said, I'm not making any straw men - I quoted you directly from your original post. Someone making an argument that you don't agree with isn't called a straw man. It's just a counter-argument. You can keep repeating yourself but it makes you look worse. And yeah, I can totally use your gaffe from a few days ago to disqualify you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:02 PM
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I think it varies. On the extreme end you have social misfits and outcasts that find comfort in being part of the anti-patriarchy counter-culture. I think this mostly encompasses younger folks on tumblr and twitter. Others might be really into gender politics because they want to defend what they perceive as their political rights. I think these are your buzzfeed, vice and jezebel readers on the surface, while the radicals become radfems who go into lesbian and child free. Then I think you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:59 PM
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-Insults reading compehension. Check. Absolutely. I didn't do it without reason. I insulted you based on this interaction we had a few days ago. How anyone could interpret those words the way you did is beyond me. Your inability (or unwillingness) to read and consider what was being said even floored another commenter who replied to you. This means I don't have any confidence in your analytical ability unless proven otherwise. I'm sorry but that's your reputation in my eyes. Attacks strawman You…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:44 PM
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I think your analytical skills are close to your reading comprehension, which is to say they're not great. Also, what are your qualifications in the psychological field? I'd like to know if you have any expertise. TRPs and MGTOWs display an obsessive need to be validated by women. Outcome independence is a core tenant of TRP that is completely counter to this assertion, and MGTOW has no need to be validated by women. You have it backwards. TRPs and MGTOWs talk incessantly about feeling a great l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:12 PM
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I think you need to go back and reread what I wrote. I never said men couldn't be raped - I said they aren't worried about it. I never said men always empathize with other men, or that women always empathize with other women - I said the sexes can't understand each other because they cannot conceptualize the other sex's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:04 AM
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Yes. It is impossible for men and women to understand each other. Until you can magically go back in time and live my puberty for me then no you won't understand what it's like to be my sex. The Brett Kavanaugh thing is a perfect example. It would never cross a woman's mind to be falsely accused of raping someone. The entire concept for a woman is completely ridiculous, but being raped is real a possibility. Similarly, men don't have to be worried about being raped, except in slim scenarios, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:37 AM
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Feminists would never frame it that way because they're not interested in men's issues. If you take one aside and ask her directly, then yeah she is interested in equality - which she quickly mentions would help men - but she'd add that women are far more oppressed and have fewer privileges than men. They would never throw a bone to the other side. They have no incentive to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:31 AM
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The way feminists describe anything is an extreme oversimplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:28 AM
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Although women are stereotyped as being more passive, I find that to the contrary they are more likely to stick up for their own rights (and those of others) by acting assertively and calling people out on their crap, and are less likely to take shit from others, and more likely to "freeze out" negative people from their lives. That's not assertive. Defending yourself, or your "rights", or ignoring people from your life is not being assertive, but rather being defensive. Being assertive is activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 02:03 PM
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Not this joker again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 01:55 PM
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It's called polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 01:51 PM
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Nope. I can't say I have that problem. Our marriage is still going strong and we're getting ready for kids. Been together for over 10 years now and we're still best friends. What's going on? I hate to use brodude terms, but your male peers all sound beta AF, which is the reason why their marriages are falling apart. It sounds like they've bowed down before their wives and supplicated their own existence for "supporting their family". They've given up their individuality and passion to make sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 05:01 PM
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OP has the wrong mindset. He's assuming that the men need to chase women by only two methods: being directly sexual or being a sneaky-fucker. Don't chase women. Focus on being chased. Push and pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 04:52 PM
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Go one level deeper. Why the assumption that we all need to be happy? That's a very unique and western mindset that many cultures do not share.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 04:48 PM
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r/trufemcels is a thing. They're a lot more behaved than male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 04:28 PM
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Wanting to be more masculine has forced me to work out, eat better, get more sleep, and take care of the responsibilities around me, and by doing so has made my life better. I like working out. I like seeing at my abs come in. I feel like I can take on anything and endure the worst life has to throw at me. Plus, shooting guns is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 04:18 PM
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5'8", 131lb, athletic. Brown hair. Green eyes. Professional beard that has a tinge of red in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:26 AM
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The jury is still out as to who cheats more. From surveys, men cheat more, but women are more likely to lie on surveys. So it's anyone's guess. men all want the same wide eyed naivety of youth that they can mold to their own liking You're putting way too much thought into this. We don't want women we can manipulate - that's your projection. We want women who are hot. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 12:04 AM
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It depends. Imagine a lumberjack lookin-dude that's 6'4, 250 pounds, built like a tank, arm sleeve tattoos, and a giant red beard, but wearing a pink tutu. I don't mind that because he is contrasting his normal masculinity with a display of, what our culture would call, femininity. It's not a problem for me because he's demonstrated his ability to conform to masculine norms but also break them. I don't like people who wear the pink tutu to protest "toxic masculinity" or some garbage political st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 12:01 AM
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Transgender people were born with the brain of the opposite sex Where did you find that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 11:53 PM
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Oh, I've been here for a while, and I certainly know that most people don't want to change their minds. I've come to the conclusion that everyone's views on gender politics is the result of their life circumstances and personality, nothing more. We had a user named jammerly come on here and rail against men every once in a while, and it didn't make sense until I looked at her posting history and saw what a train wreck she was. People want to protect their egos and think they're right, so they'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 02:21 PM
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You are the OP. Did you forget to change users?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:54 PM
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You're welcome to say what you want but if the advice didn't work we wouldn't be here discussing it. TRP would have died a long time ago. And I don't think I could change your view because resentment just hangs on every word. You present extremes, false dichotomies, and (as you claim of TRP) confirmation bias. But I can definitely say that most men do not have game like the redpill says; yet still do fine. Confirmation bias. And, it doesn't make sense. In a world of mass-murdering incels and r/f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:45 PM
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Most men are average because most human beings are average, that means most women are average too. But an average woman can get further on her looks that an average man can. An average man needs more, and the average man, by virtue of being average, doesn't have what it takes to stand out from the other average men and catch the eye of women. That's why, as TRP says, you need to be better than average, because average doesn't cut it. That's why they're perceived as losers. They're not really los…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:02 AM
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Men thought their relationships would be like what they see on TV and in the movies ... but actually the real world doesn't work like that. I recall Ted from How I Met Your Mother being the most unlikable and pretentious douche in the world, but the writers had a revolving cast of romantic interests for him, season after season. I watched Scott Pilgrim vs The World again a few years ago and realized how cringey that movie is too. And if any man out there had his romantic expectations set by Japa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 02:06 PM
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Nobody here seems to understand that sex and gender are two different things, or they think it's a complicated and controversial issue when it's really not. Biologists and Psychologists both understand the difference in the two terms and they recognize the need to have both terms, as they define two different concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 01:58 PM
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What happens to women? Like everything else you've outlined, they become irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 11:53 PM
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Cold showers help your immune system and stimulates your metabolism. For men, it helps with sperm production. And more research is being done to see if it helps with Parkinson's. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5025014/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4049052/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 11:44 PM
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They have nothing to lose.
/r/askTRP04/11/18 09:42 PM
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I lay down on my back on a flat surface without a pillow and let the muscles around my spine relax. Doing it for 30 minutes a night while listening to music has really lessened the back pain I get from sitting at a desk all day and my posture improved. Then again, I'm a regular guy without spinal/muscular issues, so your mileage may vary, but it can't hurt to try.
/r/askTRP04/11/18 09:41 PM
1

Don't knock it till you've tried it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 08:45 PM
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1: Work out, then work out some more 2: Take cold showers 3: Eat better, and consume much less carbohydrates 4: Get more and better quality sleep 5: Create something - go into carpentry, drawing, coding, anything that adds something of value to the world At that point, you've leveled out the foundation of a functional person, and you can then go in whatever direction you please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 08:42 PM
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Desperate behavior I define as approval seeking, because seeking someone else's approval is the stance of someone in a subordinate position. Stop seeking their approval and just do/say what you want, within the bounds of normal social interaction, and you'd probably get more traction. And I would maintain interest by, well, I dunno. Maybe I shouldn't say...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:21 PM
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A low status woman to me isn't awkward, poorly educated or introverted. A low status woman acts like stereotypical trailer trash. And yes, it would be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:06 PM
1

Eeesh. That's even worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:42 PM
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You watch too much porn. And your opinion is invalid because you're not a man and you therefore don't know what it's like inside our heads. But your projections to our motivations certainly reveals what's in yours. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a repressed sub fetish, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:08 PM
5

What? No. Is this a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 01:00 PM
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Projection. "There is nothing to be expected from them" can just as easily be said of women, and it might actually be more valid. But the author is too resentful to realize the irony. And putting every problem on the shoulders of men is a simple and easy way to avoid any culpability for one's involvement in systematic problems, which we're all contributing to. Don't forget that every man was born from a woman. I've seen a lot of different folks with a lot of different political positions and aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 11:16 PM
1

I guess A? I'd tell her it's either one or the other; you can't have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 10:41 PM
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OP, do you realize you're not the first person to ask for this? How about you check the archives here. You might find what you're looking for. And how do you have counter-evidence first when you don't have the evidence to begin with? Seems suspicious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 10:39 PM
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Women have far less physical strength than men and, throughout the entirety of the human condition, they had to rely on the rest of the group for protection and survival. Losing that group protection through a poor reputation or social status essentially acted as a death sentence. Even though we're not cave men anymore, we've carried all that baggage to the modern day. That's basically why women are afraid of judgement and shame, and why they tend to be sensitive to social trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:19 AM
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Probably not, because working out that much a day, every day, isn't good for you. You either go hard and take a break or you give it 80% each day, every day. Strength vs endurance. 4 hours a day is beyond the pale for anyone. 1 hour a day is more reasonable, and a lot of your workout you can do at home. I'd be more opposed to the logistics of her workout, not the intent behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:53 PM
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I don't normally reply to people that brake up each sentence with their own commentary. It makes this whole process very tedious. But if you had some courage and intellectual integrity, then yes you would read the other articles that he links. You know, the ones you requested about game and seduction. It's not like I think they'll convince you. You're totally welcome to disagree, or even just ignore his commentary and go right to the source. Regardless, it's what you asked for. If you don't part…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:47 PM
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Take some time to read them, because it doesn't look well on you to refuse. You're here on a debate sub specifically talking about sex and seduction. You were given a plethora of material to look at, and you went for the first example, which was about politics - not seduction - and you're using that as an excuse to not look at the examples you asked for. The impression you're showing me is that either you're lazy and you don't want to look further or you're being disingenuous by poisoning the we…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:57 PM
1

Indeed, but that cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:55 AM
1

You've picked apart 1 article. What about the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:55 AM
1

I mean, I have the same hangups with being an older millennial and not having a family yet or financial independence, and I do feel like I've missed out on some time, but my appearance has nothing to do with any of my anxieties. I'm open and accepting to getting older and losing my looks. Maybe that's because I've always looked 5 years younger. I dunno. Don't fall into the trap that the Boomers did. They wanted to be young forever so they always reshaped the image of someone in their 40's, 50's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:38 AM
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Heartiste has a whole category of scientific findings supporting his various claims which go back to the articles they source. Which ones are debunked, nor replicated, or misleading?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:29 AM
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Why does RP emphasize women's faults? Someone has to. You can watch The View or Oprah all day and listen to them talk about men's faults. How he isn't keeping his end of the deal, or what he could do better. But the moment you tell a woman she's doing something wrong in the same way you would tell a man then she's offended. I have to deal with this all the time at work. I don't mince words about how to do something better, but then again I don't see how it's productive to degrade anyone or hurt …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 07:47 PM
1

Is this is why a man dating a single mother will act as a father to her children by another man and even adopt them after marriage, while simultaneously having no contact with and not supporting his biological children? Because the other bitch is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 07:36 PM
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The technical definition of Privilege is an unearned advantage in some capacity. But what capacity? We all have advantages and disadvantages, so that leaves the word open to be used in any capacity a person wants. Are men privileged because they make up the vast majority of generals in the armed forces or are women privileged because they historically have never been conscripted into the armed forces? Men get paid more, but over and over it has been shown that's because they work longer hours an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 10:27 PM
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I cannot see why people think a trans man is the same as any other man. They are not. I think I agree with you there, but I'm not totally sure. The only bone I have to pick is with people who overuse the term gender. Gender is fluid, and can be socially constructed, so when people apply that in place of sex it makes it seem like biology is fluid. It's definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:39 AM
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It doesn't have to be complex. Sex refers to basic biology while gender refers to the sociological role of that sex within society. It's taught in every psychology course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:22 AM
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Take it up with the academics in the field of psychology and human biology. They're the ones who came up with the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:19 AM
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What she described is sex. Sex and gender are different. You can change your gender. You cannot change your sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:02 PM
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But they don't. Disaffected men only work dead-end jobs to pay the bills, and they don't stay in shape. Their hobbies are video games, the internet and anime porn. Impressing a girl is a fundamental drive to improve one's self as a man. Without girls, or without worthwhile girls, men degenerate. It's happening right now with increasing quantity and severity of incels and neets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:50 PM
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No. Just, no. Beauty is what causes men to strive and do better. Once men see that there is no beauty in this world, they're going to give up. They aren't going to work on themselves. What's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:30 PM
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Feminism attacks "classical and patriarchal notions of beauty", which encourages women to be fat and ugly. Just look at the radfems who adhere to that part of the ideology. Yeah. That doesn't sound all that great for men, unless you're gay, but even so you might not like hanging around fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:58 AM
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Nah, not the peak of male attractiveness. He's definitely in the uncanny valley. All the individual pieces for being attractive are there, but they're so blown out of proportion as to seem cartoony and unrealistic. I'm sure he can pull women, but they'd probably be the female equivalent to him, which can seem just as weird. The perfect male physique has a little more fat evenly distributed around the body and less of a granite jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 06:29 PM
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What makes you think calling a woman a man is a complement? If I were to call any woman Sir or Mister then she'd probably get pissed. But calling anyone dude, bro, man, or guy is just a casual colloquialism and is mostly perceived as gender-neutral, because we as a culture, especially the younger generation, use those terms to refer to anyone regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:46 AM
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My mom was undiagnosed Borderline and had a lot of abandonment issues which caused her to become a control freak and divorce my dad. Those issues made her emotionally abusive to me and my sister, so I left to go live with my dad at 16. She improved as I got older and now things are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:36 AM
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That's a pretty big leap considering you don't know anything about me. But please, go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:20 AM
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31. I work at a tech startup with a bunch of 20-somethings. I have friends my age and older. And being a Mason, I get to hang out with a bunch of old guys a few times a month. I think I have a pretty good cross-section of men to compare and contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:43 PM
1

Why do you prefer younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:02 PM
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As a former college girl, I knew exactly zero girls in college who dated or slept with anyone not college aged. I totally get that and it sounds perfectly reasonable to me. But the statement that "college aged women prefer college aged men" does not mean that "men don't age like wine". Those are two completely different things, and the OP only believes the latter because she's still in college. That's just youthful ignorance talking. She'll change her mind one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:01 PM
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No they don't. Wrinkles and crows feet come on at 40. I challenge you to find someone at 35 with wrinkles, assuming it's not a woman careening to the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 10:54 PM
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And what does it say about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 10:53 PM
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If you do not know this, you're out of touch with reality and coping hard at the fact that you're too old for girls in that age range to find you sexually attractive. I think you and I are on the same page because I don't want girls from that age group just as much as you don't want guys from mine. I'm married and been with my wife for 10 years. Aside from physique, there isn't much about a 20-something girl that would attract me to them for the long term because, as you said, being in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:11 AM
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I think (without any evidence to support it), that daughters raised by a single dad can find a maternal figure in one of their friend's moms. A mother of a friend is more likely to take a young girl under her wing than it is for a father of a friend to take a young boy under his wing. But that's just my supposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:55 AM
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Lol, what? If you think someone in their 30's has wrinkles you need to get out more. Are you still in college or something? I'm asking because university has a way of putting you in a bubble and giving you some skewed delusions of how the world outside actually works. In reality, 40's is when you start to get crows feet and grey hair, not 30's. And I can counter you with Acne. Pimples are all over the place in your 20's. By 30 you stop buying Proactiv and facial cleansers. Lol, better skin my as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:43 AM
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I feel like every new post should have a bio of the OP so that we can discern some history and some context, because, in my experience, college chicks think they know damn near everything when, in reality, they have the least amount of experience of any adult human I've ever encountered. This whole post simply doesn't match the experiences that many men have of themselves, and it certainly doesn't match the experience of many women I've met. Women, who here is into robbing the cradle? How many o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:06 PM
1

Maybe rephrase the question? It sounds like you're more concerned about living alone than dying alone. You should not live alone. Solitude can be helpful but isolation is bad for your physical and mental health. Why do you have a fear of people in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:51 PM
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I guess it depends, but imo being "totally honest" is submissive behavior. It's approval-seeking. It's an attempt to gain confidence with the other person, and someone being so eager to close the gap is perceived by the other as desperate. At it's core, good seduction is about keeping the other person's attention engaged. It's a push AND a pull. If you follow up every question with the plain ole boring truth then they're going to walk away because you've failed to cultivate interest. There's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:04 PM
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I don't agree. As others have said, attraction is pre-conscious. You don't really get to decide what you're attracted to, and many people are unaware of what they're attracted to until they're exposed to it. Second problem is interpretation. The opposite sex can say something that makes complete sense to them but when you hear and interpret it, it has a completely different concept. A woman may say "I like guys that have, like, half a dad bod and half a gym physique." Well, what does mean? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:57 PM
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If you honestly think a family will make you happy then you're more than welcome to attempt to have one. I'm not sure your sex but a women at 27 is typically pre-wall and I'd assume you have some options. But if you're feeling like you've failed at life in the general sense then perhaps more ground work needs to be done to get you in a better state of mind. Maybe it's loneliness, bad diet, no excessive, shitty job. Could be any of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:47 PM
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She actually holds the kid hostage for money Not to be snarky, but I think you answered your own question. The kid is a walking, talking monthly check, and you'd better keep that check "healthy" by feeding them overpriced carbohydrates and soy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 01:06 AM
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I'm not really motivated to fight this battle. Neither of us know him to any significant degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 07:29 PM
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Even so, one lie doesn't turn all our statements to lies. I'd like to think what he said behind closed doors to a colleague, in confidence, was genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:59 PM
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I'd fuck me. But this advice would be great for everyone across the board, assuming someone isn't totally delusional about their appearance. Dudes, lift heavy shit. Chicks, put down the cinnabon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:57 PM
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Everyone in their life has lied at one point or another. That doesn't mean that all other statements are lies. And someone can lie 99% of the time. It doesn't mean that the remaining 1% isn't the truth. The truth is what it is. You're welcome to indulge your fears, or you can give him the benefit of the doubt and be cautiously optimistic that the article is right. The only thing that will really change by doing so is the amount of anxiety you currently feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:53 PM
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This is why Kavanaugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court. Emotionally speaking, he is the worst of the worst, embodying BOTH the male and female weaknesses. He's already confirmed. It's a done deal. Not to mention his blatant partisanship. Okay I'm going to be serious for a second. The current voting system in the US creates and reinforces blatant partisanship and blatant partisanship will not go away until the voting system is completely reworked. The current system does not allow for 3rd partie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:27 PM
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Rednecks, sure, but just look at your typical liberal. Soyboys and pussyhats, all around. I'm sure all of them got their lunch money stolen by Chad, which explains why they hate strong, white men. It's be a fer better explanation to say Conservatives were the villains of every teen sports movie ever. That's the narrative. What world do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:14 PM
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Kavanaugh has gone on record saying he doesn't even want to overturn Roe V Wade. That was some dumb twat's fever dream. This is from the Atlantic, of all places, so it should be approved for the left's ego: In a long speech on the Senate floor Friday afternoon, Senator Susan Collins said she believes that Brett Kavanaugh would not vote to overturn Roe v. Wade and subsequent cases that have reaffirmed it, if such an opportunity were to come before him on the Supreme Court. When she spoke privatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:06 PM
1

Proud to be the .01%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:20 PM
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Ugly women want to claim PoundMeToo because it projects the lie that "I'm soooo hot that Chad can't control himself around me". Women with psychological issues claim PoundMeToo because it justifies their mental issues if they can claim it's caused by a rape that vaguely rests in her memory. That's not some made up shit either. There was a controversy in the 80's in which therapists were leading on their patients to think they were raped, but what I think actually happened is that the patients le…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:10 PM
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My prescription would be shrooms instead of LSD. They need some time to sit and think in the psychological corner, not go on a field trip to Mars.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:01 PM
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Kavanaugh assaulted women and is going to get on the supreme court. Allegedly assaulted women. You need evidence for the rest. Pardon the double-negative but it's not like there isn't an investigation. All this shit is being taken seriously. The issue I have with the radical left is that they never want to admit when they're wrong. They always assume they're on the right side of history, which is no different than the psychological condition of wanting to have everything your way. Don't fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:10 PM
1

Sounds fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:03 PM
1

To be fair, there are much worse things you could be doing in VR... Talking to you, Japan...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:02 PM
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r/nicegirls has some perfect examples of this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:00 PM
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Not that it matters now, but years ago I had a manosphere blog which dealt with self improvement but mentioned nothing about seduction, and the blogs I read at the time were similar. Unfortunately, the old aggregators have been discontinued and I haven't needed to look for that content in ages, so I don't have an example handy. Maybe the obsession with lady boners is just a reddit thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:58 PM
2

I'm not a conservative. I'm just a liberal in exile.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:42 AM
13

Omg so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:11 AM
1

Probably drugs. But I like drugs so I won't judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:06 AM
2

if he gets a 2nd term I will literally become an MRA. Welcome to the fold, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:05 AM
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At what point does the wishful thinking end and reality set in? Y'all thought Trump couldn't get elected and when he did your grip on reality fucking broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:04 AM
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This is funny because you've essentially outlined AF/BB, but switched the sexes: I got all my yayas out with my girlfriends. I took them to Venice; I skivved off my minimum-wage job for three days so we could fuck nonstop There's your alpha fucks. But I'm more mature now. I understand the value of an obedient woman who doesn't require a lot of my attention and who is a good household manager. So I want to wife you up. And there's, essentially, your beta bucks. Sucks, don't it? I mean, who would …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 10:59 PM
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A girl goes to a party that gets busted by the cops. She's found in bed with a guy there, not her boyfriend. She tells the cops she was raped, but when they start to investigate she relents that it was actually consensual and she didn't want her boyfriend to find out. Sad story but it happened. She had the conscience to not let a poor guy take the fall with a rape conviction and she came clean. But it could have easily gone the other way, like in other cases, in which a woman can cover for her i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 03:58 AM
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The majority of rape accusations are true. They're not though. Look at DOJ and FBI crime statistics. Rape is exceedingly rare and has been on the decline for the last 3 decades. Rape accusations are another thing because accusations are just that, accusations. Cops hear rape accusations all the time but then they're dropped once the police start the investigation because the girl lied and she knows she lied and she doesn't want to get caught lying. The current system is actually NOT stacked agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 09:46 PM
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reDdIt iS A prIVate CoMPany So tHEy cAN dO whAt ThEy waNT Until every company in silicon valley zeroes in on the same kind of speech that triggers the tumblrites and soyboys and bans it all at once. Yeah, that shouldn't be a concern to anyone at all. But I could go either way on this. If TRP is back then alright, it doesn't affect me much since I rarely need to read it. On the other hand, I kinda want reddit to ban everything that's mildly controversial and turn this place into tumblr so it can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:35 AM
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This. And, you won't get divorced if you married at 38 and the dating market is absolute garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 12:27 PM
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This might not be a very popular opinion but if you want to salvage this relationship you could apologize and frame it as a one-off due to stress at work/school or something. This is just my opinion but I think getting mad due to lack of sex can appear to be a thirsty beta thing to do. If she's withholding sex to manipulate you then yeah you have some justification to get mad, because it's not the lack of sex but the manipulation through lack of sex that is disrespectful. But if there's a legit …
/r/askTRP23/09/18 07:41 PM
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The accusation is probably BS. Happened over 3 decades ago and people's memories are unreliable. See the Mandela Effect. All this coming to light now only means it's a political hit job, like Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 05:25 PM
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Only 6% of rape accusations result in conviction because most rape accusations are false or unsubstantiated. Ask a cop. They'll tell you. Cop walks into a frat house to bust a party, goes upstairs to find boy and girl having sex, girl says she was raped because she's actually cheating. But if there's any group trying to make rape accusations have less weight, it's not MRA's. If I recall, some feminist rag claimed getting killed in an online FPS and being tea-bagged was a form of rape. Then there…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 11:04 PM
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What's with these posts saying men don't support SAHM or that they expect 40 hours a week and domestic duties? Did I take too long of a break from this sub? Because this is all news to me. My wife and I both work and we both do chores. I do more than her because I want the house to be cleaner. A put together house is a decent reward in and of itself. I hate living in squalor. So what's the problem? If he works and she doesn't, she'd better be doing something productive with her time. If they bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 07:41 PM
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When you agree to have sex with someone, you agree to possibly have a child with them. Says every neoconservative as they're about to roll back abortion rights. You absolutely sure you want to make that argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 03:14 PM
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Yes it's a real thing. Don't waste our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 03:10 PM
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Wanting femininity and wanting equality are two totally different things, and they're not mutually exclusive. And I'm floored by your claim that most men wouldn't put up with their wife or GF staying at home. So you have a survey or source for that claim at all? Otherwise, it's sounds like your projecting: you don't want a husband or BF that does that so you project that belief on us. Plenty of men, who are not a small minority, would be fine with being the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 11:06 PM
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Unfortunately, I cannot take this advice from a woman because they personally benefit from it. How am I supposed to know ignoring N count is really in my best interest? You're not a man and you're not in my position. Yeah, asking about N count on the first through tenth dates makes you sound like a dweeb. But not asking about any past history is just as stupid, as if it doesn't matter. I can guarantee you that a woman is just as interested in her man's history and, depending on the girl, can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 04:56 PM
2

Because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:56 PM
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25% of women in the US take prescription mental health medication, like for anxiety and depression, and the rate is increasing. So, I don't think you're right. You can't tell by looking at someone whether they're happy. In fact, the more exuberant they look the greater the likelihood they're on something or trying too hard to cover up issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:51 PM
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His post is literally titled Vulnerability Game. I don't spill my guts to every girl I see. Heartiste warned of that. But an example would be telling my GF about the feelings I had when my father died and how it inspired me to continue and exemplify his name. I showed my emotional scars but framed it as something that made me stronger, not held me back. Vulnerability is not the same as weakness. I told these things to her because I trusted she wouldn't use them against me, and that trust was wel…
/r/askTRP10/09/18 10:17 PM
2

You're welcome to disagree, but I feel like you're only avoiding a useful tool. Exposing your vulnerabilies in the right way at the right time can be chick crack, as heartiste described.
/r/askTRP10/09/18 09:43 PM
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I'll just leave this here: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/vulnerability-game/
/r/askTRP10/09/18 03:10 PM
1

Personally, I don't think you know what you're talking about given that you're really defensive right now. It shows me you have no chill. It shows me you don't have an outcome independent mindset. It shows me that you're emotionally invested and that emotional investment shows me you're insecure, and if a dumb old man like me can see it then women will sniff you out too. Stop trying so hard. Relax. Refresh yourself on ZFG.
/r/askTRP10/09/18 02:36 PM
1

Being always on guard shows you're afraid and fear is the tingle-killer. Alphas are give no fucks. Why are you giving a fuck about your vulnerabilies?
/r/askTRP10/09/18 02:29 PM
1

If a guy has one dog then it's whatever. If he has like 10 dogs, and he's their pack leader, then I gotta say: hell of a job man, training all those dogs couldn't have been easy, and why haven't all those dogs landed you a chick yet? And if a guy has a sex doll then I WOULD shame him for being a disappointment and not living up to their potential. I think that's a pretty conventional opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 02:20 AM
1

Make them laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 02:16 AM
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Because, in the right cases, dropping your guard can be a show of confidence. And because, in the wrong cases, keeping your internal thoughts/feelings such a tight secret can signal insecurity. And insecurity is a turn off. Edit, for those who don't get it: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/vulnerability-game/
/r/askTRP10/09/18 02:12 AM
1

What should a woman do when she has a way higher sex drive than her partner and he can't or won't give her the sexual satisfaction that she needs? She can do it herself if she's that horny. Nothing wrong with that. Open relationships are way more advantageous for women than they are for men because sex comes easier for women. Men can make the open relationship thing work if they're able to pull tail, but generally their women ax that idea immediately because they want their alpha all to themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 11:06 PM
1

I think sex validates everyone's ego to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:25 PM
1

"It's okay because they're gay" is just a cover. My feeling is that she's a bit of an attention whore at a deep core level but won't let it happen around straight men because (at least) she knows the consequences of doing that. So, she's scratching that itch in (what she thinks is) a safe way by going to gay men. She can justify it, feel good about it, whatever, but that doesn't change the psychological need. But that's all I can see from 3 paragraphs. It's my best guess. Were you right in doing…
/r/askTRP28/08/18 02:30 AM
3

Look, this is going to sound super harsh, but it's only a reaction to what I perceive as unintentional arrogance on your part. It's hard to take a critique seriously from someone who read the subreddit for a day. It doesn't show investment and hints that this is just a flyby post. It's also hard to take you seriously when you present yourself as an authority figure at the age of 21, from a small town no less. Your lived experience is slim, so you don't have the expertise to be an authority on an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:39 AM
5

Show a happy mother on TV once in a while. That's a great start. Welfare benefits for married families. Yeah, Socialism, I know, but I moved from Ancapistan to this because I recognized that it's a real issue, and if nation states aren't in the business of seeing that they continue in perpetuity, I.E. raising the next generation of tax payers, then what the hell are they for?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 01:49 AM
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This is really refreshing. It's hard to admit you're wrong and I'm guilty of it too. I like reading the thought process of someone who has changed their mind. do you agree that both boys and girls are given bad or wrong information about sex and relationships? Yeah. Absolutely. I might not agree with those on other side of the gender politics debate but women do have legitimate grievances with our society, our system, and our perception of each other. And no surprise being RP, boys get it too. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 01:46 AM
3

I think people these days have way too much faith in turning over their problems to an amorphous bureaucratic system of imperfect rules and regulations when, in reality, a human touch is needed. If you report harassment there is a system which needs to process that complaint and spits out a pre-defined result, and this is the result. Edge cases prove like this prove the system isn't perfect, which is why we shouldn't put all our faith in these systems. I wasn't there. I don't know how it went do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 01:33 AM
1

If it's socially acceptable for some (wo)men to feel more comfortable cutting it off entirely then why not permit someone to feel more comfortable adding to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 04:08 PM
1

It's pretty common for younger guys to find something new and dive head first into it without dipping their toes in first. It sounds to me like you went too hard, too fast. Now, you have to find a balance in using this newfound power responsibly. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Your religious ethics should kick in about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 04:05 PM
1

Is this a serious question? If you get a lot of attention, you're high SMV. If you don't get any attention, you're low SMV. You don't have to sleep with the guy to find out. What makes you think you have to go all the way to find out your SMV? SMV is all about options. Nothing says you must take every option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 12:28 AM
1

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that women entering the workforce has resulted in economic damage. It has resulted in greater consumer spending which employs people in customer service etc etc. But wages have no choice but to go down when you flood the labor market with more labor. Supply and demand isn't just a fact. It's a law. We have equilibrated right now in this age to the effects of women working, but the economy also equilibrated when they didnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:01 PM
2

I've heard these Democratic talking points before and yet here I am, still unpersuaded. Im sorry but if you can't admit that wages are affected by supply and demand then we don't have the groundwork for a productive conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:19 PM
1

First, I would instantly make more money if women left the workforce because wages are affected by supply and demand. Lower workforce participation means more workers are in demand so the more employers will pay to get them. The manosphere has argued in the past that the reason we need two incomes to survive right now is because women entered the workforce and drove down labor prices. And if income is the only con then you've inadvertently made an argument in favor of women returning to the dome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 12:56 AM
0

No. Hypergamy is finding the best mate to the eclusion of others. Men are polygamous. We want more mates.
/r/askTRP29/07/18 05:52 PM
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I have no problem with women reporting people for genuine sexual harassment. I have a problem with women expanding the definition and application sexual harassment to minor social awkwardness. Metoo is partially made up of people with legitimate claims and partially made up of attention whores who want to be part of the oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:35 PM
2

The problem with nice guys is that they really aren't all that nice. The problem with nice girls is that they really aren't all that nice. If niceness is your identity then you're offering the bare minimum as a selling point, and that's not a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:27 PM
2

I don't think that the liberal/left/progressive/BP side is interested in empathizing with an enemy because their whole social hierarchy is based off being more virtuous than everyone else and rejecting those who aren't. The irony is that the desire to be more tolerant and inclusive has made people massively more intolerant than the bigots they purportedly hate. They feel like they're doing good but that feeling of goodness is their one and only goal and, in the face of reality, feelings are a fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 12:56 AM
2

You're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's less about what women want and more what they don't want, and they absolutely hate insecurity. Learn to change your negative thoughts and behaviors, to the best of your ability.
/r/askTRP17/07/18 03:09 AM
2

Is convincing someone to buy your product after they say no paramount to theft?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:49 AM
1

Race and intelligence. Because, do I even need to go there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:01 PM
1

It's complex. I think most humans want to dodge any negative consequences as a result of our psychology, but we tell men that they need to willingly face them, so many men do just that. Women aren't told they need to take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:50 PM
1

Very persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:51 PM
1

But that's not my point. Reread what I wrote and really focus this time. I'm saying that a world where everybody is passive aggressive is worse than a world with the occasional assault and battery charge. Do you know why that is? Because when you look someone in the face and challenge them you take direct and personal responsibility for the harm you're about to inflict and the bruises you're about to sustain. But if you walk away and decide to key their car and slash their tires, or whatever oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:39 PM
1

At this point, what are you even arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:26 PM
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Lol at getting sued over a bar fight, or losing your job. Yeah, not in this reality. If it's a shoving match, which is what I said, the cops separate you. You throw a punch and you might spend a night in the clinck over a misdemeanor. You're not going to lose your job or get sued over that. Men aren't such pussies. But that scenario is better then everyone slashing each others tires because they can't stand direct confrontation. That's a worse world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 01:24 PM
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Because passive aggressiveness can be far worse that active aggressiveness in certain situations, and if everyone on earth did it it'd really suck. If you get into a bar fight with someone and it ends in a shoving match and being bounced out by security then it is an objectively better outcome then getting into an argument with the same guy, him leaving the bar, and you going out to your car hours to find that the valve stems in all your tires have been taken out so you have 4 complete flats tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 09:01 PM
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Heh, thinking women have less aggression and sex drive. Imagine a world where every man was as passive-aggressive as the typical woman. What a horror show.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:30 PM
2

How many men vs women are homeless? There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 10:58 PM
1

True. I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:34 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 12:59 PM
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A person has to willingly walk up to a perceived threat to desensitize themselves to it, otherwise you condition/reinforce the anxiety instead. Sometimes encouragement - whatever that means in practice - isn't enough. Reframing the risk or changing one's mindset so they can perceive things differently, imo, would be more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 12:15 AM
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You can encourage risk taking all you want but that's not the same thing as eliminating the anxiety which prevents people from taking risks in the first place. They're putting the cart before the horse here. You don't want to encourage girls to take risks; you want to encourage them to give up their anxieties. If you try to do the former without the latter then you'll just give girls a complex. And the sweet boys thing has been tried since the 90's, when men were told to get in touch with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 07:25 PM
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I had been with her for 8 years previously, we bought a house together, and we plan on starting a family. I weighed the potential risks vs the benefits, adjusted with my experience of our relationship, and decided to do it.
/r/askTRP01/07/18 05:54 PM
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They’re selfish. They’re lazy. They’re shortsighted. They’re cowardly. They lack direction. This sounds like what an incel would say about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:31 PM
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Not unless you want to make it happen. My goal is to be the dad I got to have every two weeks but do it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:27 PM
1

They tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:41 AM
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Women are always going to push boundaries to know what how their man stacks up and where the boundaries are. Guys give in because they think it will please her, but it actually builds resentment. Telling a woman "No" is sometimes better for the long term because it sets ground rules, but most guys are too insecure to do it out of fear she'll get mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 09:10 PM
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Yes, obvi, because she's going to remember the times when it got weird and she liked it, and you won't be able to match it. In fact, the act of trying to means you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:54 PM
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lets actually compare same situations pls. You'll never get the same situation become women give birth and men don't. That's a hurdle no one can jump over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:50 PM
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It's not the situation that we should be comparing here in PPD, but the reaction of the audience. If they were slightly different then it would indicate that the audience understands the nuanced differences in each situation. If the reactions are strikingly different then it indicates bias. OP's argument is that the reactions indicate bias. And this is about as close to comparable as you're going to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:48 PM
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He found out about the daughter 15 years after the fact. "Left and abandoned" does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:46 PM
1

FMLA doesn't apply to my job because my employer has fewer than 50 employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:45 PM
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Checking with my boss, I've found that my work doesn't offer it. I could take off work using my PTO but unless it's a state mandated thing I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 09:26 PM
1

Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 05:01 PM
2

No I don't. My work does not provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:59 PM
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All the more reason to be a good dad. I think that if there should be any policy changes then it should incentivize having families, and having programs which help. This hits close to home for me. My wife and I are planning on having a kid within the next year or two and we're going it alone. The only aid we get is in tax breaks. Now, we both make decent money, but why is maternity leave only 3 months, and why don't I get paternity leave? Why would we have a kid just to put them in daycare and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:07 AM
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Men see children as a burden, but want women to see them as a gift. Your ability to peddle that quantity of bullshit with such stellar confidence would put Jordan Belfort to shame. I, for one, am a man who is greatly looking forward to children, and I'm sure you'd find many a mother who think their children are a burden. Every time I see a post from you, Jammerly1, it's always some low-effort thesis resting on resentful and biased generalizations. I don't think you're getting much from this sub …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:27 PM
1

Be funny. Girl looks at phone. "Uh oh, we lost her." you wave hand at her face If she gets mad say, "I have a perfectly good and reasonable explanation for this, if you just give me a moment to explain, oh look a bird." And walk away. Two can always play that game. These girls are addicted to their phones. You have to prod them a little to self-correct. What I said might not be comedic gold but it teases her into acknowledging what she did wrong, but you frame it in a way that's not threatening.…
/r/askTRP14/06/18 12:48 AM
1

Well I want to stretch your views as far as they can go, because I'm honestly curious. Let's say my wife and I met and neither were smokers, but after 10 years of marriage I started smoking, and she hates smoking. Let's say that I absolutely 100% will not compromise on giving it up. What happens next?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:50 AM
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If I started smoking and had no intention of ever stopping then do you think my wife would have a good reason to divorce me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:41 AM
2

5'7
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:29 PM
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I met my wife 10 years ago. I'm still 140 and she's still 145. A little weight gain happens in life but becoming obese basically means don't love your spouse or love yourself. You've stopped caring, or you have mental issues that you need to work out. This lady shouldn't be surprised that something like this would happen. No one gains 130 pounds in a weekend. She had to have known. If it takes her man cheating for her to wake up then that's what it takes. I'm not saying that her being fat excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:01 PM
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I dunno. I'm in blue pill world here but nobody has the audacity to ask about people's beliefs. When people do that, they're typically looking for confirmation of their own biases. I would remain upbeat but mysterious. Don't get into those discussions. Make them guess.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 07:26 PM
1

Obvi, the analogy breaks down at the edges, but it's a good heuristic to start with. Don't chase or appear insecure is a good way to go. Acting disinterested is simply aloof game. I'd add that if you want a cat to follow you, play with it. Be fun, interesting and entertaining and the girls will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 10:02 PM
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TRP officially has nothing to say on the matter because it's not intended for lesbians or to game lesbians. But on a personal level, the lesbians I've met have been real cool people who like to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 09:49 PM
1

Why is it that whenever someone rightfully points out disadvantages of men the first response is always "b-b-but what about w-w-women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 09:45 PM
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It's not wrong for anyone to approach anyone, so get that idea out of your head. I take it from the way you phrase things that you are hyper-conscious about the things you do. You're essentially stuck in your own head, and you need to stop that. Ask yourself, what's the problem with me going up and talking to her? What's the worst that could happen? Talking to someone is about as innocuous as you can get. Some people here are giving you shit because it's evident you lack courage and need to grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:07 PM
3

Yeah, yeah, everyone thinks they're sooo woke. But women would be better off not listening to someone so resentful, paranoid, and hyper-empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:27 PM
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I found that not trying to impress people and leading by example are the easy parts, once you've developed as a person. I took a long, hard look at myself as to what was wrong and how I wasn't living up to my potential. Then, I developed habits which fixed them. I got in better shape, ate better food, set aside more time for sleep, became more organized and learned how to talk to people at a deeper level by asking more questions. But on the other hand, there are things about myself I can't chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:23 PM
3

We've had internet porn for ~20 years now. Why does everyone still blame porn? If porn was going to ruin society then it would all be ashes by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:03 AM
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Man, what a head case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:02 AM
4

Is one temperament (fearful-inhibited) inherently less suited to success in social life and with women Women hate, hate, HATE insecurity, and insecurity derives from internal anxiety. You can cry in front of her and most of the time she'll cry with you, but if you show insecurity in yourself or the relationship then she will recoil. Being bold and fearless is all well and good, if you can pull it off, but being comfortable in your own skin and having an amused mindset is going to work just as we…
/r/askTRP09/06/18 10:03 PM
2

A month is not that long, imo. I used to see my gf once a month after we both graduated college and that lasted around a year, until we moved into the same place. If you can text every other day and call once a week then you should be fine. While it is possible for anyone to cheat and show no signs when you return, there really isn't a way around that. So what are you going to do, in a practical sense? Leave her? I get that it's the emotional part that sucks but you have to unpack that shit and …
/r/askTRP09/06/18 09:56 PM
2

This is going to sound like shitty advice but it is the truth: don't worry about it. Anticipation and excitement are good things, but anxiety and insecurity will kill your game. Get in the mindset that you're both about to have some fun. And don't worry about foreplay. If you're both horny then you're already there. Don't try to be a stud on your very first go, like throwing her on the bed or spanking her, because it will be evident this is your first time and you're trying too hard. And if you'…
/r/askTRP09/06/18 09:40 PM
5

My only advice to my past-self would be: deal with your anxiety/insecurity and don't try to impress people - lead by example and let your personality shine through. Everything else I could figure out on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:46 PM
1

The problem is, no one agrees what Chad means. Familiarize yourself with linguistics a little bit, because this is not a problem. Who says that any term needs to have 100% agreed upon consensus? Different terms can mean different things to different people and yet those terms are still useful when communicating. When you say "Chad", 99% of the people here know what you're talking about, therefore the word is useful and carries conceptual weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:42 PM
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brain chemicals Do you mean neurotransmitters? You know, you cannot make an argument that men are deficient psychologically while using the term "brain chemicals" and expect to be taken seriously. Raise the bar a little bit, research some terms, and use them properly, because otherwise you sound ignorant, and sounding ignorant makes you unpersuasive. Do some Googling first. It only takes a few minutes. Secondly, allowing single men to reproduce is circumventing the mechanism by which species evo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:37 PM
1

Wow. This is quite the reach. "I can't speak for all X" is a pretty universal disclaimer. You're trying way too hard to disqualify here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:31 PM
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Then ignore then and move on. This is a debate sub, not a place for personal rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:20 PM
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Hey sorry I missed that. I'll delete the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:19 PM
1

It depends. If she is socially awkward too then the handsome socially awkward guy will have the advantage initially. However, social awkwardness is a slow burn that will eventually destroy a relationship. Handsomeness will get your foot in the door and secure the first few dates, but you have to be maintain the relationship with decent charisma, and I believe this is the case across the board. If you're socially awkward around her friends, family, and in new social situations then you're just go…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:39 PM
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Man, it's hard to find the point here among all this resentment. Unless you're the 20-something woman, or the 40-something man, then why do you care about the dynamics of anyone else's relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:32 PM
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Fuck r/relationships. Stay with your bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:51 AM
1

You can only really love something when you've accepted its flaws. Anything else is just blind adoration. The way around that is to say "this person is really good for me and my life would be worse off without them".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:48 AM
1

This yuppie-woman sounds like a train wreck and is pretty much why I don't trust anyone out of NYC, DC, or LA. But anyways... Q4All: Do we shower women with messages of consumerism and fear of intimacy disgusted as empowerment? There is no such thing as empowerment. It's all marketing, because no outside force can empower you - only you can empower yourself. If someone gives you power then it's not really yours. Q4All: Do we hold multiple casual partners on a pedestal of empowerment while consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:57 PM
1

Criticism is all well and good, but the the context behind that criticism matters. Every forum has a purpose and a general decorum. This is universal across all forms of communication. Even if you think you're providing genuine criticism, the way in which you provide it can get you booted real quick. The mission statement of TRP is not to benefit men, but to provide men with a particular sexual strategy. If you're going on TRP to criticize that sexual strategy - its core mission statement - then…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:35 PM
1

But my question is why do you think that hard work, confidence and so called "game" is a guarantee of success with women? It's not a guarantee but, ask yourself, what's the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:43 PM
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I don't know the full story behind this - you don't show your comments so we can't make a complete judgment on this - however it's not a contradiction if you go into a sub acting like an asshole. And TRP doesn't overtly advocate for free speech, so we can ban whoever we please. Every sub has moderators which, brace for it, moderate the discussion going on. It doesn't matter if you're on the communism or anarcho capitalist sub - they all do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:41 PM
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Sure. Our brain is a series of layered systems, going from the oldest systems like the medulla oblongata and cerebellum at the bottom of the brain stem to evolutionary more recent systems like the prefrontal cortex at the forehead. The oldest systems are going to be way more robust in that they are going to stay active longer and be more resistant to impairment, for the obvious reason that they keep you breathing. Moving up from the brain stem, beyond the life support areas of the brain, are sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 03:01 PM
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Absolutely it did. Rich men got the most women and they selected the hot ones. You seem the think the intellect can override the primitive. It simply cant. The prefrontal cortex governs intellect and it is the first area of the brain to be shut off, for example when you drink alcohol. You really ought to study some neurology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:01 PM
5

So what? That took fucking hot girls and rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:55 PM
5

That's just wishful thinking. Intellect is second to instinct. Neurologically, the neocortex is always the first to power down during stress or impairment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:00 PM
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Men need to grow up and value personality and character over looks, and stop using "but muh biologaaaah" as an excuse. Telling men to ignore hot women is like telling women to ignore rich men. Yeah, it'd be nice if we could, but we won't be able to. It's written too deep into our psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:57 PM
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Ma is AWALT in that she hen pecked my dad to death and only got more angry as he supplicated. I'm sure that if he had put his foot down they wouldn't have gotten a divorce. She now laments that her boyfriend is losing a lot of weight and looks way better than her. He unintentionally inflicted a little Dread Game. Sister is an enigma. Very politically correct and feminist, but is also on antidepressants and not doing so well in life thanks to poor impulse control and being terrible with money. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 07:25 PM
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Not surprised. Also note that LDL is considered bad cholesterol and HDL is considered good cholesteol. High fat keto diets tend to increase HDL and lower LDL, while low fat/high carb does the opposite. I'm willing these kids also have fatty liver disease and the onset of diabetes too. The typical western diet is way too high in carbs and sugar.
/r/askTRP01/06/18 07:00 PM
4

I thought I had the same problem until women kept trying to grab my ass. It's a feature, not a bug.
/r/askTRP01/06/18 04:08 PM
2

If you're not overweight or approaching 60 then you really shouldn't worry about plaques forming. That happens when you're already unhealthy. The amount of time it takes for them to form and dissipate is on the time scale of years, so if you think replacing butter with olive oil for a single week or month is going to give you a rock hard dick then you're tricking yourself. Sugar and obesity have a might higher impact on heart disease than anything else. Also, there are many different kinds of sa…
/r/askTRP01/06/18 04:01 PM
1

Those RP'ers don't like that he advocates for men to settle down, get married and have kids. I think he's right, because it's good for society, but then again I'm married and waiting to have kids so it appeals to my personal sensibilities. Where I personally disagree with him is when he advocates avoiding identity politics. To be sure, identity politics sucks, but at the same time identity politics can't be given up until every single politicized group drops the resentment and unifies. I'm not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 12:58 AM
1

A woman worthy of demanding love, respect, compassion, and kindness. A woman who is loving, respectful, compassionate, and kind. Being slim helps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 12:46 AM
2

Right, and I appreciate and respect the work you did, but I don't want others to get a false impression. AFBB is still real, and the claim itself wasn't started by TRP. I remember discussing it in my psych classes about 10 years ago. If you're looking for more good topics to research I'd look at how birth control affects preference for alphas or betas. The conventional RP wisdom is that birth control tricks the body into think it's pregnant, so women tent to prefer "beta" men while on it and alp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 09:22 PM
3

This doesn't exactly debunk AFBB, as the quotes you provide say that macho guys still won out, only now it appears they win out all the time as opposed to cycles of macho and non-macho preference. This disproves one RP claim about the cycles themselves but only reinforces AF moreso.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 08:56 PM
1

Men can do more physically, which has put us in an advantageous position in society and throughout history. Women are a complement to us in that they restore us physically and mentally so we can keep doing what we're good at.
/r/askTRP30/05/18 01:42 AM
2

When you're married or you have kids, you have other priorities. You can't spend all day on tumblr or infowars.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 01:20 AM
1

Sorry but this is a really bad argument. People can change, sure, but then again they sometimes change for the better and more often than not they change with you. Yeah, people lie, which is why you spend a long time vetting them so they have more opportunities to accidentally let the mask slip. And no, you can't know 100% for sure how anyone will react to life changes but that is true for every human interaction. Anyone can lie. Anyone can change. The issues you brought up with marriage aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 01:04 AM
1

It's not the girls, it's you. This aversion is either disgust or insecurity. If it's disgust - a visceral, unconscious revulsion - then you gotta get out of your comfort zone to experience the world a little more. You're too pure and protected. You gotta get out there and get a little dirty. It helps you grow. If that doesn't work then go see a therapist. If it's insecurity then it's likely because you're afraid of measuring up to the men those girls have been with, which indicates self-esteem i…
/r/askTRP26/05/18 01:47 AM
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Nope, but I did find someone way better.
/r/askTRP26/05/18 01:36 AM
2

When you cause physical and psychological harm, that's when you cross the line. Now, "psychological harm" be construed, and misconstrued, in any number of ways, depending on the emotional outlook of the person judging, so I'm not going to touch that can of worms. But the seduction techniques aren't inflicting any more harm than sales techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:31 AM
1

It's all relative. Where these women are at in life, that's probably the best they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:22 AM
1

Nah. Not all of them. Just look cute and flirt and plenty of guys will buy you stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:59 PM
1

Haha, not to be that guy, but I think you answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:12 AM
1

How do all the other sugar babies do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:10 AM
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I suspect that you only have this particular view because of the current and temporary frustration that you feel about your current boyfriend, and that is not a very good reason to make a generalized statement about live-in relationships as a whole. I'm willing to bet that if your current situation changes then your mind will change right along with it. You can learn a ton of things about a person by living with them. How do you know if your boyfriend snores if you don't sleep in his bed? How do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 02:03 PM
1

You can believe whatever you like. Your beliefs have no impact on reality or society. The incel question is already a social problem - people have already died from it. When there are enough men who are incels and have nothing left to lose, they'll take down society. Mass shootings, truck attacks, bombings. At that point, what will your beliefs get you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:37 PM
0

There will always be incels, but the number of Incels in a society matters. You wave away the problem at your own risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:58 PM
1

Well one, the attack in Toronto couldn't be ignored or spun into another narrative like with Elliot Roger, and since it happened the newscorps want money in ad revenue. That's why it's an all of a sudden shocking issue that you need to see. More at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:45 PM
1

D: beat him unconscious is the most masculine imo. But you probably want to go with A.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 08:49 PM
1

Keep looking. Neither of the two are great candidates but they're practice. Casually seeing many girls gets you an idea of what type of person you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 08:45 PM
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They’re about ensuring that any Asperger’s diagnosis said straight white dudes have obtained does not interfere with one of the Cornerstone Straight White Dude Life Successes to which they are entitled: that of obtaining a woman. You can just feel the resentment pouring out of the screen. How dare those straight white dudes dare pursue anything they want? At least, that's how I'm reading it. They seem to re-frame the pursuit of another person and handling one's condition as a social justice issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:55 AM
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My first instinct is toward Clown Game. I don't think Mime Game is a thing but you could tap into it to mock the dude. To quote the chateau: if your choice is stupid game or nothing game — staring from afar as the girlworld passes you by — then you should choose stupid game. Every time. Because stupid game man is getting more numbers, and more dates, than nothing game man. Boldness bereft of any charm is still boldness. And girls respond to boldness the way men respond to beauty… stunned, arouse…
/r/askTRP20/05/18 10:44 PM
2

I think I need a little more context. How old are you?
/r/askTRP20/05/18 10:35 PM
2

I've noticed here that anxiety of varying levels is pretty common. If you're able to be comfortable in your own skin and your demeanor flows naturally then you're taking a big step in the right direction.
/r/askTRP20/05/18 10:29 PM
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First, ask if it's even a problem. Do you want these girls as friends? I don't think there's anything wrong with having girl friends, so long as you have guy friends too. If you don't have any intention of dating/screwing these girls, but you still want their attention anyways, then you're only looking for validation, and seeking validation from others is a sign of insecurity. I'd examine that first and see if it applies. If you're worried about being beta then you are beta. Worry/fear kills con…
/r/askTRP20/05/18 10:19 PM
1

Some do, but they burn out, or they switch to easier degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:30 PM
1

this is exactly the same thing that happens to male geology students And psychology students, if you're me. The difference between men and women is that women get the signal to go into STEM, or coding, or science, because there are fewer women in those fields, so they get a double dose of the 'go to college' advice. In 15 years people will marry at 35 You're off the mark. In 15 years, the 10 year olds of today will be 25. That's who I'm talking about. This newest generation sees the harm that co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 06:51 PM
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True, but I feel like girls get a double dose of this. "We need more women in Tech/Science/Math, etc." Anywhere there are more men than women, except in the trades, women are told to go there and do that for the sake of equity, and those might not be things that women would ever actually enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 06:11 PM
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I think the main problem is women just don't know what they want. It's rare to find a women who has a serious goal and a working knowledge of the path toward that goal, and the reality of life once they've accomplished it. Most women have a general, nebulous idea of what they want to do in life. They're susceptible to other people telling them that they should pursue X, Y, Z, and frame those things as something glamorous or important. But when most women finally get into the working world they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 04:12 PM
1

Well someone's salty today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:59 PM
1

I wish I knew more about this. I feel as if the averages don't give us a good view. Is it possible that there's a group of men with normal T and another group of soyboys with room temp T bringing down the average? Or does this affect every man to some degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 04:11 PM
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We lie to them that a career is something worthwhile. Nobody on their death bed ever regretted not putting in enough time at the office. The conspiracy theorist in me pictures fatass cigar chomping capitalists all laughing about how "female empowerment" is paying them massive dividends. And when the birth rate drops they'll just open the borders and get cheaper labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:46 PM
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What? Are you intentionally being obtuse or really don't see a big difference between an LTR and a marriage? A LTR is a perquisite for marriage, unless it's arranged or something. If you can't pass the LTR test then you don't move on to marriage. So therefore the qualifications a man is looking for in a wife are also what he's looking for in a LTR, and visa versa. The only difference marriage has to a standard LTR is that you can't leave it without the courts. Now that is indeed a huge differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:29 AM
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I'm not talking about marriage. I'm just talking about being with somone in a LTR which for all intents and purposes is marriage. It's a long term commitment, so the rules still apply. How do you make this happen? How would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:51 PM
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Heh, I married that former-virgin unicorn and we just celebrated our 10th anniversary. My situation is hardly common, but I'm proof that it happens. You don't have to marry a virgin. You don't even have to get married. The pool of quality women is probably pretty low, which is why you have to go out and separate the wheat from the chaff. As I said previously, know what to look out for to optimize for potential success. But what is your suggestion? What should you tell a guy in this day and age? …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:17 PM
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I honestly don't get where this conversation is going. First, you ask why men want virgins, and I tell you it's to reduce risk. Then you tell me not to gamble, which essentially means we should pursue no women at all. I'm already well aware of the risks associated with divorce court, but if that is the worst case scenario then there are plenty of things men can do to reduce those risks to acceptable levels so that it's no longer a 50/50 chance. That 50% chance, by the way, also takes into accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 01:40 PM
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Deciding not to play makes for a very boring life, and you can gain a lot if you're careful and invest in the right person. I'm confident you'd do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:35 AM
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Life is nothing but a gamble. Every day we drive to work we throw the dice. finger snaps
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:13 AM
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I don't want to marry a virgin, and I didn't. I de-virginized her long before that. "No hymen no diamond" is just rhetoric, man. Not to be taken literally. I don't get why this is so hard to understand, and I can tell you really don't understand it because the questions you ask. Here it is, the full-on truth, simplified down so that anyone can understand: If men are going to commit to a relationship then they want to trust that their partner is a good investment. That's it. That's the entire thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:06 AM
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But your topic is attraction. You can't put numbers to it because our values differ from person to person and what might be valuable to one person isn't valuable to another, so you would have to tailor make your numbers per person, which kinda defeats the point of quantifying it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 07:39 PM
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You can't mathematically break this down. High N count always has been, and always will be, a red flag. That's all. If she has good reasons or plenty of green flags, and shows investment potential, then red flags can be forgiven.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 07:05 PM
1

The cost of a relationship to you is high so you need to pick the best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 01:27 PM
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Thank you for perfectly, and inadvertently, defining hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:56 AM
2

they are both at end of the spectrum improving to the extreme side within their gender "roles". But they're not. You're equivocating two completely different causes, outlooks on life, and motivations. The analog you're actually looking for is: a beta turning alpha is like a housewife becoming a hoe. You've got it reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:54 AM
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Potentially. If you only hit up clubs then you'll only get club chicks, but I don't believe that all these posts are from dudes selecting for club chicks, or their analogs. Back when I read the manosphere, there were guys from all different walks of life sharing their experiences, and it's hard to believe that they were all selecting women from the same source. And even if they hypothetically were, TRP bashing women is really no different than women vocalizing their frustrations or sharing the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:52 AM
1

Not all men need to be alphas, and our society would work better if the lesser betas were turned into greater betas. Sometimes I'm floored by how many of my younger peers give women the pussy pass. If men learned how to be men, how to stand their ground, how to have standards, and be more quick to drop a woman who's doing them wrong then the world would be a much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:59 PM
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There are 3 potential stories here: The guy thought that he was sexually assaulted and reported it accordingly (his story). The guy was getting revenge on her because she did the same thing to his friend (her story). Or, the guy woke up and was afraid she would report him, so he reported her first. In any case, all these stories show systemic problems with how the universities handle cases of sexual assault. The actual problem is that they shouldn't. Cases of sexual assault should always be repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:55 PM
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There are always exceptions to the rule, but they don't invalidate the rule. If you honestly think you'll be one of the outliers then go right ahead. I'm not going to stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:49 PM
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I'm actually relieved. Years ago, at the time it was announced, Affirmative Consent was billed as a verbal agreement. I even recall seeing a pro-AC video on YouTube explaining how to ask and say yes at every step and it was unintentionally cringey. I'm glad they either stopped that characterization entirely or took it a step back from what it was initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 02:06 PM
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I honestly don't care what magazine say I think they're absolutely horrible sources so they do not persuade me. Plus they they say nothing about whether consent is verbal or not so they seem to be neutral on the issue. And as for the Universitys how do you know whether those specific ones adhere to the affirmative consent standard or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 01:20 PM
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Then how is my source wrong if it claims to be the standard of affirmative consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 01:01 PM
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You're going to have to unpack that a little more. I don't understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 09:23 PM
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You're reversing cause and effect. If guys were beta and got cheated on before they found TRP, and used TRP to improve, then how is TRP responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 09:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure, but not 100% confident, that the California law only applies to Universities, where the student codes of conduct require affirmative consent. All it really does is give the force of law to University policies. If you're just a regular Joe or Jane outside of Uni then it doesn't apply to you currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 06:07 PM
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Yeah I'm not sure where the disconnect is. All I can say is that here in the States there are many colleges, and the state of California, which are putting in laws/rules that require verbal consent "yes" to every escalation because implied consent through body language isn't enough to avoid rape. They've called that Affirmative Consent. Now, I personally don't agree with this, along with many others, because actually putting this into practice makes the bedroom dull. And I don't want to speak fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 05:33 PM
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That's not what it says: The Affirmative Consent Standard - You Must Receive a Verbal "Yes" The Affirmative Consent Standard states that the person who initiates sexual contact must receive a VERBAL YES (affirmative consent) from the other person before engaging in any sexual activity -- and that consent must be ongoing throughout the sexual encounter. The Affirmative Consent Standard makes it clear that it is the responsibility of the person who initiates sexual contact to make sure they have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:09 PM
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If you're anything like me then you read what you have to read, improve what you need to improve, then you get on with your life. I don't need to read RP threads anymore and I don't have anything to add, but that doesn't mean I've rejected the things in the sidebar or think they're any less relevant. The fact is, I just have more stuff to do and I'm less and less interested in the internet as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:06 PM
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I think this is twisting things around. Afaik, Affirmative consent is asking verbally to do something before you do it. Kino is no non verbal physical touching, and you don't ask to do it first - you just do it. Seems like two completely different concepts to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:02 PM
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Nope, not to me. I'd accept person 2 way more than person 1, because I see no problems doing whatever freaky shit you want if you're with a person you've bonded to. It shows me that person has their priorities straight which is: find a person you like and connect with FIRST, THEN do the nasty. Whereas person 1 had to have acquired 17 guys in like a 4-6 year period. It's a red flag because that could indicate she's impulsive, or that she cannot form attachments with any of these men, or she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 03:22 PM
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From what I've been able to gather, state regulations tend to push up cost because they require a certain square footage per child and limit the number of children a caregiver can look after at any one time. This increases the size of the builing, and therefore the lease, and the number of staff they need to pay. Those are the biggest costs. Then add in insurance, food, materials. Here in the states they sometimes drive kids to and from their school, if they're school age. If you're more well of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 10:09 PM
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I'm American and that's my viewpoint. Things are kinda fucked up here. Grandparents don't usually take care of grandchildren because young adults move out when they get older. They, like me, move thousands of miles away from family. That means a lot of couples don't have anyone to rely on. They have to work and raise kids all by themselves. Daycare in the US can also run about $2,000 a month, which is more than some people make. That leaves couples having one kid or two kids. And because they on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 08:42 PM
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That's not the point. If you go to work you don't see your kids and if both work then you have to hire someone to see them for you, so then what's the point of having kids? What do you get when someone else raises your kids for you? Millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:19 PM
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Men do jobs women don't want to do, and they generally earn more. It's therefore more efficient if they are the breadwinner. There are always exceptions but that's the general rule. And they suffer when they do that. They don't get to see their kids very often, but it's a sacrifice that someone has to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:10 PM
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Probably the biggest. That changed the entire game and we still haven't worked out the full consequences of it. Personally, I think our civilizations will either collapse due to low birth rates or we'll have discover life extension to counter-balance it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:53 PM
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The answer is between those two extremes. There's a lot of middle ground between slut and prude, just like there's middle ground between passed out drunk and stone cold sober. Like everything else in life, you have to find a reasonable balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:34 PM
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Yeah. It's true. If you spend your time on occupation and education then you have little time left over for reproduction, because there are only so many hours in the day. Feminism encourages women to go to school and get a career; it doesn't tell them when and how to start families - women are left on their own to decide that. And women have only just had this opportunity so they haven't figured out the work/life balance yet. Their only strategy seems to work harder, which can burn them out. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:29 PM
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Bottom barrell men are hooked on opioids, violent, chronically unemployed, in and out of prison, and abusive. Let's not forget that this is not exclusive to men, and let's not put all single moms into one box. The woman who says with, and has a child with, an abusive boyfriend is a tired old cliche. There are many different kinds of single mothers out there and they don't have the same background, nor do they all deserve the same level of respect, or blame, for the situation they're in. Let's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 12:08 AM
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Make it as clear as you can as soon as you can. "You're really cool and I want to continue hanging out with you, but I'm not interested in anything more than that, and I respect your friendship and your time so I don't want to lead you on." If he is indeed cool then he should take it in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:53 PM
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The same argument can be made for women's birth control pill, or condoms, or the morning after pill, or abortions, or... Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean that methods cannot be developed so that responsible people can be more to be responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:50 PM
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My apologies. My posts were directed at one user in particular who hand-waved away any contribution that fathers make and said that single mothers don't need them. That's all I'm truly hung up about. I realize that there are good and bad people out there and it's all a mixed bag. I don't think single parentage should be encouraged over dual parenting, and it should probably be discouraged, but I don't want that to be interpreted as advocating punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 03:57 PM
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If the courts gave custody to my dad then most likely yes. But where are you getting the idea that I want to punish single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 03:28 PM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 03:05 PM
1

Not until you prove you have some skin in the game. Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:41 PM
1

Lol it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:37 PM
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I'll do just that when you cite something for me to counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:35 PM
1

Lol wow. You made the claim, you have the burden of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:33 PM
1

Omg cite a source or this conversation ends here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:30 PM
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That's great and I'm happy for you. I myself am married, own a house, and I'm prepping for having kids. Life right now is pretty good but that was in spite of, not because of, my mom's parenting, and it took a lot of extra work on my end to make that happen, hence why I'm RP. It would have been a lot easier and I could have been more successful sooner had I been with both my mom and dad, or just with my dad. My sister, in contrast, never got the chance to leave like I did when I was 16. She took…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:27 PM
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You certainly did make generalizations. father are not important That's a big ass generalization if I ever saw one. So 100% of fathers are not important at all? Those are your own words from your original post. children need a mother figure first and foremost, fathers are an accessory Wait, so do 100% of children need a mother figure or isn't it possible that they can get by, just like they can sometimes get by without a father? I dunno. Your statement is just a generalization. again, no father …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:58 AM
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I don't have a cause or a narrative any more than you do. i only called you out on dismissing mine I sure did dismiss it. You had no problems with making sweeping generalizations regarding single mothers and fathers. The only difference between us is that you got your information from your friends while I lived it, and saw different results from others. Sorry if it doesn't support your own narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:41 AM
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And you can't dismiss my experience either, remember that. But prove me wrong. Are you a single mother with successes under your belt? Were you raised by a single mother and did you turn out okay? As far as I can tell, if both of those answers are no then you are completely ignorant of what life is like with a single mother as a parent, which gives you no greater insight into my experience than myself. To use your own nomenclature: check your privilege. And I don't have a narrative, I just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:30 AM
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Well your experience differs from mine. I know people who are adults who never had a father. If they're men, they don't have a sense of drive or purpose and are socially retarded. The women don't have any sense of boundaries and are impulsive to a fault. I don't give partial credit when the results are train wrecks. I grew up with a single mother, which was her choice, and she was absolutely terrible at it, causing lasting damage to everyone involved. Thank God I left home at 16 and never came b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:18 AM
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:43 AM
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So dear red pillers, why, instead of hard nexting such girls, do you not try to do something benevolent and teach some of these girls patiently about their mistakes? You can't, because the woman in this example has her entire identity wrapped up in being a confident, opinionated, nasty and hard core woman, and the moment you try to convince her otherwise she'll take it as an aggressive attack on her values, and it won't end well. Why would I waste my time? The truth is you cannot give people uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:32 AM
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Because, generally speaking, men are interested in things while women are interested in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:17 AM
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As a vetting process, and as a humorous experiment, only tell your dates that you work in the medical field, but don't elude to more. Hell, make them think you're a murse. If you can get a hot girl who accepts you as a murse then you can drop the ruse and surprise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:50 PM
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Crumb wasn't an incel. He had sex. He even had ex wives, and kids. At first, his comics were adored by feminists because it presented women without the glitz and glamour of the pussy pedestal. But if Crumb was anything, he was a neurotic nice guy with an amazon fetish, his psychological profile created in part by an overbearing mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:44 PM
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I think that's worse. If it were one woman you could brush it aside but now I can't get the image out of my head of all the women in the Buzzfeed office ogling guys' crotches over break room coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:06 AM
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I'm 31 and I'm still looking for my direction, but I still have a house, gf, car, decent job in a nice city. Purpose in life does not equal quality of life. You probably won't get a purpose in life until about 25, and that's because you're still young, you've got a lot of energy, but very little experience. You're at the point where you should be experimenting and trying different things, not locking in your life. You lock in your life at 18/19 and your 25 year old self is going to hate you for …
/r/askTRP06/05/18 07:17 PM
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Your problem is becoming too typical. Isolation is bad for you. It's going to build resentment and damage you psychologically, and it probably already has. You need people to talk to, and not ones on the internet but actual people, face to face. Work out and get some exercise, because it changes your neurotransmitters and will make you feel better. Stop eat crap food, if you are. Eat more meat, fat and vegetables, and reduce grains/bread to one meal every other day. Your gut bacteria also have a…
/r/askTRP06/05/18 07:08 PM
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Only gay men view men as sex objects. Buzzfeed: 11 Men's Luge Bulges that Deserve Gold Medals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:40 PM
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Sounds like a step backwards to me. This whole victim mentality can go a number of ways, and not all of them are positive. If people are being victimized but aren't cognizant of it then making them aware allows the group to band together and tackle the cause of their problem - that's really the only good outcome. But it could just as easily happen that a victim narrative makes people dis-empowered because they believe that the system is too powerful to tackle. Victim mentalities can also build r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:36 PM
2

Attention all by itself isn't an indicator of SMV necessarily. An obese man in a banana hammock is going to get a lot of attention but he's definitely not more attractive. Whether the purple wig increases or decreases your SMV depends on the demographic. My college friend used to love girls with punk hair, while I am turned off by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:59 PM
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We don't, not always. Most beta dudes would love to have a long time girlfriend or wife, so what guys are you referring to? This usually happens because the girl is good enough to put up with but not good enough to stay with long term. Why buy went you can lease? In my experience, some girls don't understand relationship dynamics, that you have to give and take. They only see the taking part. If could be that these girls just aren't a good investment and they need to improve their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:49 PM
1

Sometimes people want to get nasty. Just wrap it and you're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:41 PM
2

99% of the time when someone says TRP "hates" something it's usually the accusers projection and not our actual views. For example, I don't hate career women. I am disappointed that they chose a career over a family, or didn't get the opportunity to both have a career and a family, because the US sucks at social policy. And another example, I don't hate sluts; I'm disgusted with them. Totally different emotion. I don't hate anything really. I might be disappointed or disgusted or frustrated by c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 05:05 PM
1

Yes, my 20's self looked up dating/relationship/sex advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 02:26 PM
1

True, but most men tend to carry over that disgust into voluntary cuckolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 02:20 PM
0

What man doesn't want the best possible mate he can get? It's literally the only reasonable thing for anyone to want. Because men can get multiple women pregnant at the same time. Just because you've locked down the best mate you can get doesn't mean you can't Genghis Khan another few dozen children, which could potentially make a few hundred grandchildren. There's always a primal drive, buried deep in the subconscious, to spread our seed. It doesn't matter if those other women are 9's or 6's, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:53 AM
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If she uses the word "privilege" unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:44 AM
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Can you grow a beard?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 10:54 PM
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Do you have an example of where it is used in literature, as a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:54 PM
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Non-consensual cuckolding is the fear of every man who wants to have children, so you've got a bias against it right there. Most men don't want their wives to cheat and would feel terrible betrayal if she did, so there's a second bias. These biases don't give a shit if someone else is doing it consentually or not because a primal feeling of disgust always follows, and you can't negotiate it or rationalize it away. But let me turn the question around on you: why do you need my approval? Why do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:51 AM
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Thank God someone decided to finally post this. Half the people blame guns and half blame psychological issues, but the elephant in the room that nobody seems to recognize is that the vast majority of mass shooters are the children raised in single-parent female-run households. The fact is a boy cannot become a man from the parentage of a single woman. It's just not possible. These boys are stunted socially and have no sense of healthy masculinity, which puts them at the bottom of the social lad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:45 AM
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I'm having a similar discussion with another commentator. Where in history did married couples find another man to have sex with the wife while the husband watched and masturbated? That is a particular sexual fetish, not to be confused with wife swapping and orgies, which did happen. If it's as old as time, then where does it appear in the historical record? And I don't mean inadvertent cuckoldry, I'm talking about the sexual fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:31 AM
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I get that it was a festival, and I remember from history class that decadent Rome was notable for its orgies, but where in history does a married couple find another guy to have sex with the wife while the husband watches and masturbates? That's a very particular sexual fetish and I can find no evidence that it was practiced anywhere. I'm sure someone somewhere did at some point, but it appears that it was never a thing like it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:28 AM
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I might be out of bounds here, 'cause I didn't read the whole post, but it sounds like OP is speaking of a cuckolding as a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 12:17 AM
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I'd definitely need an example to believe it. I mean, it's not out of realm of possibility, but it'd be a surprise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 12:15 AM
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No, I strongly disagree. If some people are incapable of forming strong relationships with people then marrying them to robots is only going to make the problem worse. The last thing you want to do to someone who is unhinged or broken is to leave them by themselves, even if they're with an android. When you're in a relationship, or in a marriage, you have to learn how to negotiate, how to persuade, and how to understand. You end up learning a lot about yourself and your partner helps you to see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:06 PM
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Do you believe Alek was ugly or repulsive looking? I don't think he was ugly by appearance, but he likely had a ugly personality and attitude. Do you think we might see more of these incidents in the future? Absolutely. This is only the beginning. As more people see these terrorist attacks, more Incels will be encouraged to do it. The same effect has been observed for school shootings - when the media shows a school shooter's name and characterizes them as a villain, the other would-be school sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 03:57 PM
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All I'll say is that if a conman wanted to take your money, they'd tell you a sweet lie to gain your confidence. A lot of people who are conned will defend the conman because believing the lie is more comfortable than confronting the fact they were conned. The same principle applies to ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 10:02 PM
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I realize that we're all individuals with differing characteristics, but when you take averages of people they cluster into groups based on certain traits. Women tend to be more agreeable than men and are less tolerant to risk and violence. Men are way more violent than women when comparing the group averages and are more likely to be libertarian - far more likely. So when you're looking at a pool of potential voters, if you happen to exclude one group then you're going to remove a certain psych…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:30 AM
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I think by trying not to spin communism's death toll you're being dishonest in the opposite direction - trying to lesson the impact of all those deaths, so long as they weren't ALL executions. It doesn't matter to me if everyone was killed by execution, in a gulag, by a famine, or shipped off to the wastes of Siberia, or any proportion thereof. The fact that all this happened still makes the ideology guilty of killing a lot of people, and whether it's all chalked up to malice or the fault of inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:05 AM
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Yeah I definitely see your point. I think that the only time where a collective group's experience factors into politics is when Democracy is involved. Men have had more experience with democracy than women due to women being unable to vote for so long. In many ways, they as a voting group are new to the process (and so are many other groups too). The way I see it, philosophers have written on how to lead, but they were men talking to men, people like Machiavelli and Marcus Aruleus. Some male po…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:09 PM
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Right. I think that is wise advice. I think compassion and all of that sort are meant to guide us how to act in our everyday lives, not to determine who we should follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:00 PM
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Equality isn't the only moral good. Others will have other moral goods. All a tyrant needs to do is speak the right one to get you on board. The ideal is to not let that happen and don't get attached to the ideologies that kill millions... And, well, are the evangelists and BLM activists wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:16 PM
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they don't advocate for social equality Why should they? That's YOUR moral good, not theirs. They are pursuing the highest moral good that they can think of. To them, they're do-gooders. Just because their good doesn't match yours doesn't make them any less good in their own eyes. I think you'll find if you look through the history of this last century that every faction was pursuing their moral good. Each one, including the Nazis. The problem isn't that people do bad shit, it's that they do bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:53 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant Based on their ideology they belive we are approaching the end times and view themselves as a holy army. They want to establish a purified Muslim state with a recognized caliphate. They believe the highest good is through radical Islam and are making ends toward that. Yes, they believe they are the good guys. Yes, they believe they are morally right. And being morally right allows them to mentally justify the ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:58 PM
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I don't think they had political power, but I also don't think men had political power either, except for a small few if you look at the entirety of history. I do recognize the few women who did have power, but I don't see them as inherently more capable than men by virtue if being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:32 PM
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ISIS definitely thinks they're doing a moral good. They prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:15 PM
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Unfortunately I don't have the time, as this and other conversations have taken enough of my day. If the hangup here is that my initial comment was absolute then replace "women had no power" with "women had little power". But I think the overall point remains. Feminists generally think that women had little political power and that women were oppressed in the past. That isn't a controversial statement and it's so common knowledge among the left that a citation I don't think isn needed. It certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:05 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't at the moment. From my experience here, there are the semi-regular posts from low-effort commentators who like to make blanket statements that women had no power and that women were always oppressed back in the olden days. And I know at an ideological level that Feminism is in an offshoot of Marxism, which interprets history as a class struggle, re-framed as an oppression narrative between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:37 PM
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Really? No feminists belive that women had no power under patriarchy, so they believe that women did actually have power under patriarchy? That's a first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:15 PM
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what people say is not necessarily what their intentions are That's precisely the issue. Evil people will preach equality and compassion to gain power for the own selfish and murderous ends, and people will go along with it because equality and compassion sound really nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:14 PM
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Who cares if it's a small list? Who cares if they're utilities (actually they're not. I dont think you read the article. They're mostly credit unions and trade organizations. W/e)? You're factually wrong based on your previous claims that governments in the west don't own companies. And it's a real shame that people cannot own private property, especially considering they can own private profit. But that system was in Europe during the middle ages. We called it feudalism. But aren't we getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:08 PM
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I mean that feminists think women in general had no political power under patriarchy. Is that a straw feminist? Sounds pretty legit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:03 PM
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You can play all the mental gymnastics all you want, but it does not take away from the fact that social ideologies built upon equality and compassion have been and will be co-opted by evil, and that compassion alone doesn't make your ideology morally good. In fact, assuming your ideology is morally good increases the chances that you will do great evil along the way to your utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:01 PM
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Yes there are government owned companies in the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States And there are many other government-owned companies all across the west. Nobody actually has a capitalist economy. They're all considered "Mixed" economies with varying levels of government participation, from regulatory oversight to nationalized corporations. That makes China no different than any other economy in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:49 PM
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Socially communist and economically capitalist doesn't make a communist country. Marx and Lennin would be very displeased.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:33 PM
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That's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:32 PM
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The economy boomed when they abandoned state planned production and went to a market economy. They essentially became capitalist with red tint.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:07 PM
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Doesn't matter if they were compassionate as individuals. The ideology which gave them power preached equality, compassion and justice, and the ideology couldn't stop the atrocities everywhere it was tried. There is no ideology with more blood on its hands than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:05 PM
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You're welcome I'm glad you enjoyed the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:24 PM
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Absolutely. Righteousness is the perfect justification for killing millions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:02 PM
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Well, if the Feminist version of history is correct then women have no experience in political power (which I don't agree with). It's like like giving a 15 year old the keys to your car. Yeah, they might have a general idea of what it means to drive a car but they've never done it. Now, I don't agree with the Feminist version of history. There were queens and empresses who wielded power just as well, and just as badly, as their male counterparts. They were just less frequent. But we all know how…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 01:48 PM
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I am worried I might kill myself. Why? She's not worth it. You can weather this shitstorm. I know you can because others have been through much worse and made it out okay. It doesn't sound like you have kids with her. It doesn't sound like you're married. From your post, it doesn't seem like there is anything physically keeping you and her together. There were guys who have been divorced by their decades-long wives, racked over the coals, and had everything taken from them from the exact same de…
/r/askTRP26/04/18 01:35 PM
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What's the obsession with happiness anyways? It's just a consumerist concept drilled into everyone's heads by marking moguls - you must always be happy and if you're not then something is wrong with you, so buy X and you'll be satisfied. Happiness will only get you so far. It only exists when times are good but evaporates when times are bad. Purpose, on the other hand, exists when times are good and bad, and will motivate you to keep going. Don't seek happiness - find a purpose instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:18 PM
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'Course I like women. No, getting to know them isn't a big deal or a chore, but some of them assume they are WAY more interesting than they actually are. Women who have hobbies that aren't social media or politics are generally interesting and are fun to hang out with. Then they’re extra mad when it doesn’t lead to sex on their desired timetable. You're thinking of r/niceguys. TRP says to remain aloof and have an outcome independent mindset so you don't particularly care if there's sex or not, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:14 PM
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This is kinda all over the place so I'm not even sure where to start. Are women truly sexually unsatisfied or is all this an assumption the OP is making? Women, who aren't the OP, help me out here. Explain this to me, is this some kind of epidemic I haven't heard of? I get that you all have to figure yourselves out sexually, but I've also heard that 90% of the time a dick is a dick. And there was a previous thread here saying that Chad doesn't always satisfy either. It'd be nice if I found that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:45 AM
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All the things he did right: Handsome Good job Supported her Was a great dad All the things he did wrong: Traveled for work??? All the things she did right: ??? All the things she did wrong: Didn't lose weight Didn't have sex - and seemed to be a prude in the bedroom Was resentful about choosing to be a stay at home mom Thanks OP for this classic example, because this teaches several lessons: 1) As far as we can tell with this example, no matter how good you are as a husband and father you can s…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/18 08:44 PM
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This is just a rationalization hamster. You: Sending hearts is okay. Her: No it's not! Well maybe if you're joking. Well maybe if he's gay. Well maybe if you're close. It's not a shit-test. You just caught her in a contradiction. Her knee-jerk reaction came from thinking about you sending hearts to someone else, then her brain caught up and realized that it's hypocritical, so she invented all these rules an exceptions which justified the way she feels and the way she thinks. You're going to find…
/r/askTRP22/04/18 06:24 PM
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in black and brown urban neighborhoods policing is very different. Very true. Like you said, black folks view the police as an outside occupying force. The problem is, if you don't patrol those neighborhoods then it turns into anarchy, and if you do then you have tension between police and civilians. Black crime is a problem with many dimensions and unfortunately I wouldn't know how to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 06:15 PM
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I don't. Sex is supposed to be fun. If sex were truly a reward for my "good behavior" then I'd refuse to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:52 PM
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Nope the ratio of men to women being shot or arrested is not a men's rights issue because men are more likely to commit crimes and we're more likely to be violent, which explains increased arrest rates. That just the way it is. The issue is with sentencing - women get lighter sentences on average for the same crime. But even then, is that controlled for prior offences, showing remorse, etc? A lot goes into sentencing. As far as the non-white issue goes, blacks commit more crimes per capita in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:33 PM
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It's too top-heavy. I don't intend to sound like a liberal but they're right about wealth distribution for the most part. That and my generation is loaded with debt. Housing prices are still beyond our ability to afford. Wages are still stagnant. I'm glad things are trending better but it could be all undone with one wrong action.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:53 PM
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The problem isn't hypergamy, it's that single mothers grossly over estimate their SMV. They think they're an 8 but the kid makes her a 3. And it isn't "hate" we feel - that's just projection. The actual emotion is disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 12:44 AM
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No. Men aren't hypergamous, we're polygamous. We don't typically swing up to one partner and abandon the other; we try to get multiple partners in a harem. Women don't have harems. Biologically, it doesn't make sense for them to have multiple men if they can only get pregnant by one of them. Extreme hypergamy in a woman means she will divorce her husband for someone better looking or richer. While extreme polygamy in a man means he will have a wife, and a girlfriend, and a mistress, and a booty …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 12:35 AM
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One reason is that the average guy is pretty pitiful. That'd explain why they don't meet her standards. But another valid reason is that the average woman has overly high expectations of what they think they deserve. Just as men are bombarded with images of beer babes, women are bombarded with athletes and movie stars. If all you see are 7's-10's then you'll think the average is an 8.5, plus here in America everyone thinks they're above average, which is not only false but statistically impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:52 PM
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If a numale can succeffuly act dominant in bed then more power to 'em, but I won't hold my breath that most could maintain the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 07:30 PM
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Tell her in no uncertain terms that you do not want to be associated with her and to please leave you alone. Keep the texts in case of legal issues. That's the only reason why I would text at all. I'd personally want something archived that I could hand to a lawyer.
/r/askTRP16/04/18 01:16 AM
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Sure. How do you know a woman is fit to reproduce? She's beautiful. That's how you can tell she has the right genetics, and we men have become incredibly adept at reading physical attributes like bust, butt, waist and face. Because of that, women receive a lot of attention from men, as each one sizes her up. That's our way. How do you know a man is fit to reproduce? Beauty also indicates good genetics, sure, but beauty for a man doesn't get you very far if you're weak and cowardly. So a man has …
/r/askTRP16/04/18 01:09 AM
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Yup, quick edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 12:58 AM
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You need to stop focusing on how they have it easy and redirect your attention to yourself. Women definitely get more attention, but does that make their lives easier? Not necessarily. Read more of TRP sidebar in regards to sex differences. Men and women are different and our sexuality is different, and our modes of attraction are different - you should know this by now. You're taking one aspect of how they attract mates and applying it to yourself, thinking that there's some kind of deficiency …
/r/askTRP16/04/18 12:57 AM
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The female ID wants a dominant man because dominant men were reproductive successes. You can fill women's heads with fantasies like equality and they can accept ideologies like Feminism but you can't stop instinct. The more effeminate men get, the hornier women get for dominant sadists. I mean, 50 Shades of Grey is the highest selling novel in history. That isn't a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 12:48 AM
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You just lost your virginity to this girl, you don't want to get too attached. If I were you I'd stay with them as a networking thing, but I'd take my romantic interests elsewhere. If she chases after you, great, but you don't want to be the guy to stick around after an orgy.
/r/askTRP16/04/18 12:39 AM
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Study programming on your own. Employers who are looking for devs don't care about degrees, only if you can do the work.
/r/askTRP15/04/18 06:07 PM
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The effective way to get rid of phobias and anxiety is to increasingly expose yourself to them so that you become desensitized. The more familiar something is, the less your brain reacts to it. So, the only way you'll be better at social situations and get rid of social anxiety is to be more social. The first step is to find a social environment that is more accommodating, less judgmental. I think the best way to start is to find a group of people who's primary goal is NOT socializing, but doing…
/r/askTRP15/04/18 04:31 PM
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Tell him he's projecting and show everyone else otherwise.
/r/askTRP15/04/18 04:13 PM
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Because wanting only casual sex can sometimes be an indicator of deeper psychological issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 12:05 AM
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He couldn't do a lot of fooling around or multiple positions. He had like 15 minutes to have sex before they had to stop, whether he climaxed or not, and she surely didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:54 AM
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It's not my place to say, but I had a buddy in college who had a girlfriend with vaginismus and he said it made sex impossible, if not very painful for her when it happened. There'd be times when it was fine, but the times when it wasn't acting up it put a lot of performance pressure on both of them, and when she was anxious it got worse. You couldn't take it at your own pace which made sex either quick and mechanical or painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:49 AM
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STD's are a deal breaker. If she were fat or old then that $1000 wouldn't be easy but I'd probably do it. I'm not going to say that I've prostituted myself out before but I have done things for money that I don't take pride in. I did feel a little used but it'd be more accurate to say that I was "capitalized upon" given my financial situation. There's no such thing as easy money when you're paycheck to paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:29 AM
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There would be a lot more orphanages. That #5 though. Yeah, men would be less careful with protection since they know they have a way out, but by that same token women right now in this world are less careful because they have a way out. How do you know that this world - where women have less of an incentive to be careful - is any better or worse than an alternate dimension where were women have more of an incentive to be careful? I'm sure that if men could have financial abortions then women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:19 AM
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I know I'm going to sound like a blooper for this, but off the top of my head I don't despise any particular trait that is unique to women. I do despise deception and malice, and women can be deceptive and malicious. What I feel is not necessarily disgust but instead a primal rage when I hear about a woman cucking her husband. I understand that women want good genes for their kids - we all do. I understand that sometimes they just want to get their rocks off. I understand that Chads can be sexy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:14 AM
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I'm not sure if he legally could but financially he didn't have the resources for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 12:29 AM
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Divorce rape is mostly financial in nature - losing the house, most of the assets therein, joint savings accounts, retirement accounts, etc. But in addition to that, it's being forced to pay for lawyer fees, counseling, and "classes". For example, when my buddy got divorced he had to pay $1,000 a session USD for "domestic violence classes" because she accused him of hitting her. There was no evidence of this at all. He was out of town with an alibi over the time-span of when she said it happened…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 01:25 AM
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I'm not sure if I understand the question correctly, but if I do then I'd say that wouldn't change anything because I feel that I already act genuine to my nature. I don't have a front or a false personality meant to appeal to people, and I'm not afraid of people seeing the real me. I've made efforts to integrate TRP into my personality instead of constructing a separate RP personality. Edit: I've thought about this before and I don't see TRP as changing me, but rather has allowed me to be genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:22 PM
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You need a purpose greater than girls.
/r/askTRP10/04/18 01:14 PM
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I empathize, because I used to be like you, but you have to realize that the disease is worse than the cure. The frustration you feel being at the bottom is worse than the pain it takes to improve. The problem you've described is not only unique to you but is also not permanent, so fix it. Get out more and talk to people. If you're the nerdy type who's into games then the first step could be getting into board game group. For exercise you can start running, then join something like a running clu…
/r/askTRP10/04/18 03:17 AM
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The real Red Pill is that there are no such things as "rights". The whole concept of rights boils down to either don't fuck with me (negative liberty) or give me free shit (positive liberty), and you are not entitled to either because in this reality people still fuck with you anyways and you don't get free shit for nothing. It's a fantasy. Best you can say is that your government super duper promises that it won't stop you from doing certain things and ultra super duper promises to stop people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:24 AM
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My wife approached me first when she contacted me over AIM, back when we were in college, but I closed the deal by asking her on a date. You're either 1: not getting approached because you aren't attractive enough (sorry but that's the reality for some people) or 2: you are getting "approached" and just don't realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:19 PM
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I think I woke up in an different dimension this morning because aren't women the ones complaining about nearly fucking everything? I seem to recall a year or two women complaining about how air conditioning temperature is sexist. Give 'em an excuse to complain and they'll find it. They'll even complain about men complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 09:08 PM
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Sometimes it's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. Next time, go in for a kiss and if she pulls back or says no then you have your answer. Also, don't be so worried about impressing her or what'll happen at the end of the night. An outcome independent mindset is your friend. You probably made your motives too clear to her, which could have put her on guard. You don't want to be too easy to read. Remain aloof and focus on having fun.
/r/askTRP07/04/18 08:31 PM
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Neither of us know what she did so you don't have justification to say whether OP should stay or go. Some girls love to hate you, or hate to love you. She could have a case of sour grapes - maybe she wants him but can't get him and so she tells everyone she hates him as a cover for her own psychological desires. Maybe he cheated on her or fucked over one of her friends and now she wants to ruin his reputation. There's a lot we don't know.
/r/askTRP07/04/18 08:18 PM
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Maybe positive? If she didn't care, she wouldn't be mad. What'd you do?
/r/askTRP07/04/18 07:46 PM
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Biologists have coined the term The Sexy Son Hypothesis to explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:22 PM
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This is a large reason why school shooter Nikolas Cruz got so many love letters - women aren’t necessarily writing him because he’s “hot”- these women largely see him as a victim of circumstance who was never really loved and that they can change or fix him. Alternative hypothesis: women like bad boys because bad boys make bad sons who will crush anything that challenges them, which will keep mom's genes going. Hey, it's just as applicable and explains just as much as the "these women want to nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:12 PM
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I think that men would be the ones to turn off their libido while women wouldn't because they think they wouldn't need to, which would result in a lot of confused and angry women as they suddenly lost the pussy pass. Then feminists would campaign against it as sex discrimination or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:07 PM
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TRPers often defend their ideology by claiming that AWALT is merely a heuristic, but at the same time they also say that it is female nature. You can't have both at the same time. Sure you can. There's nothing contradictory about claiming AWALT and that AWALT is female nature. It's just saying the same thing in two different ways. all guns are loaded" is a heuristic The actual heuristic is "treat all guns as if they're loaded". The heuristic doesn't care if the gun is actually loaded or not, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:24 PM
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I think it depends. I think it's reasonable for a woman to leave her boyfriend if he becomes dead weight. It really shouldn't matter her relative status, if she has a great job or if she's a waitress at Denny's, he has still failed to provide any utility. A man leaving his girlfriend because he's improved his life and she's gotten fat is equally acceptable in my book because, in the previous example, the boyfriend's lack of ambition is the primary reason a woman would boot him, and in this examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:06 PM
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Teasing is the life blood of my marriage but it's not intended to maintain dominance. You gotta have fun sometimes and not take life too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:03 PM
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Using her sex appeal to get whatever she wants to the determent of others. Stringing along men to use them at her will. Pretending to be in relationships with someone to extract what she wants out of them. The classic femme fatale. Though looking at some of the comments, people saying "well I don't know what that looks like". Christ, people, are we really still under the impression that women are perfect little angels that have no ability to do evil? That bias is what the MGTOW's point to when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:38 AM
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Extremism has many, many forms, and the herbivore men are certainly extreme in their own right even though they're not violent. All I mean by extreme is that men go to the margins of society to form beliefs that are radically different from the majority. It doesn't matter to me personally if they're a Brony or a neo-Nazi even though they're radically different groups. Something has still pushed them to the fringes, or to put it a different way: something about the fringe has attracted them to it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 10:53 PM
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Some guys here think that being honest gives them the justification to be a hard ass. Don't spend too much time on them. I feel for you. I'd never want to be in your position, but I think you made the right choice. It would have been more damaging to go through with the marriage and try to suppress your feelings rather than do what you did - live honestly. I don't think this path will be easier, but it will be better.
/r/askTRP01/04/18 10:39 PM
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Whether you call it an ideology or not, we all need a systematic framework with how we process reality. Sometimes, that system needs particular words to describe concepts, otherwise how can anyone explain anything? I get what you're saying because there are plenty of ideologies out there and plenty of them are toxic so you should be skeptical of them, but don't be the guy who's so anti-ideology that they end up creating an empty framework which prevents them from conceptualizing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:43 PM
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Even though "toxic masculinity" is a can of worms that I'm not going to open, they are more or less right. Men are found at all the extremes because men can afford to be at the extremes. We take risks. We're willing to fight for what we believe in. We're even willing to die for it. This can be channeled to positive change or destructive change. I wonder why people think ISIS or the alt-right are such an enigma - They're not. You have young men with no wives or girlfriends and nothing to look for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:36 PM
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People couldn't be depressed or have crippling anxiety in the past. they did not have the luxury of checking out for a while or ignoring daily tasks. I think you've hit the central core of the issue. When life is hard, you don't have the luxury of complaining about it. And I'd go one step further to say that, if I was in that situation, I'd see every day as dodging death so every day is a small victory. In our age, death is so remote that people take life for granted, and when things are so easy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:47 PM
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I'd actually say for most of history you just accepted whatever your lord or king did to you, so you had even less agency to toe the party line. But then again research is pointing to innate personality traits as the primary predictor for your political beliefs. Progressive/future oriented/novelty seeking people have always bumped heads with conservative/traditional/orderly people, only they rarely did so anonymously and they were usually right in front of you, so you had to keep up social custo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:08 PM
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I think they are more common. Things like Depression I think we're over-diagnosing, while things like narcissism are under-diagnosed. I'm sure our ancestors had their problems, some that we cannot understand because of our frame of reference, but then they also didn't have to worry about things we do. They didn't have access to mass media or the internet. Our brains were just not meant to process things like Facebook - where everyone puts they best face on their profile, so you get the impressio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:52 AM
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To an extent, I agree, but I'd rather not have people with profound personality disorders having access to the launch codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:31 AM
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There's a lot of things going on in the west. Like you said, we're increasingly isolated. Second, personality disorders and anxiety disorders are rampant because of that isolation. Third, people are captured by ideologies that feed into their disorders - like Social Justice for example can certainly feed a person's anxiety disorder or narcissism. Fourth, when people with these ideologies clash, they're not clashing over ideas; they're not even clashing in order to persuade the other side. They'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 09:17 PM
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I regret being a Nice Guy in my 20's. None of my other mistakes compare to that.
/r/askTRP31/03/18 04:31 PM
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I don't think either of us has the statistics or personal experience or argue any side.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:08 AM
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IMHO, masculinity pretty multifaceted and creates multiple effects, so everyone's answer is going to be different. But if I had to outline the core of what Masulinity is then it is the strength within your body and mind which lets you regulate your Self. The effect of this creates order within you, which then sets you up to accept the challenges that life throws at you. Obviously, if a man were to crumple into the fetal position because he got a flat tire then we wouldn't call him very masculine…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:52 PM
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These women are a small minority. Or are they? Every time something like this happens, whether it's Cruz, or the Boston bombers, there are hundreds of women that come out of the woodwork fawning over them - and those are just the ones that send letters to the perpetrator. I mean, I get the impulse many of our commenters here have to not generalize, but don't let your egalitarian thinking get in the way of your brain's pattern recognition. You don't see women getting this kind of attention when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:38 PM
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I can't say how common or rare it is, but it certainly does happen. I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger the Govenator banged his maid. I'm sure there's a laundry list of male celebs and CEO's that will screw just about anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:28 PM
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I hate wall of text posts so I omit a lot of rhetoric and boil down to simple concepts. I also hate wall of text posts so I appreciate you formatting your post to make it easily readable. However, I wouldn't shy away from rhetoric. I'd actually embrace it because, from my experience, people aren't persuaded by facts. They usually process new information by intuition first - does this make sense? - before applying reason and logic. I agree that we don't know if hypergamy goes away in egalitarian …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:50 PM
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There is zero evidence that hypergamy goes away when women become self sufficient. The female CEO is still going to try for a male CEO. She isn't going to fall in love with the janitor. Your entire argument is based on your own suppositions and unsupported assertions. Jammerly1, I notice that you do this with the majority of your posts. Just because something makes sense to you doesn't mean that you have no obligation to support it with further evidence, reasoning, or packaging it into a persuas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:34 AM
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Uniqueness and individuality are reserved for your friends and family. Everyone outside of your monkeysphere is an automaton. You literally cannot conceptualize every human you meet as a unique individual. You don't have the neurology for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:16 PM
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You and I might need to have a short talk on designing games. That's my passion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:44 PM
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My mission is to publish my game, have kids, and eventually sell my house to live in the mountains somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:43 PM
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If Freud/Jung are to be believed, even in the slightest, then the first exposure a boy gets to girls/women is through his mother. The boy doesn't see the mother for what she actually is - a flesh and blood human being - but the idolized feminine, because her powers as an adult and as a woman imprint on a newborn as a kind of god. The idolized feminine stays with every young man, which is then projected onto every girl/woman they come across. Maturity and experience tend to kill the idolized femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:40 PM
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Of course another person can make you happy. That's why we have friends and partners in the first place. We're social creatures. Happiness also comes from within because if you don't work out your insecurities and neuroses then you'll be unhappy no matter who you're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:00 PM
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Feminism has already lost the public debate because as it scores more and more victories the ideology needs to create more and more problems to keep itself relevant, problems which are becoming increasingly trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:55 PM
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If a woman is 100% independent then she doesn't need me, and I'm just a means to her ends. Not fun. If a woman is 100% dependent on me then I'm the only thing keeping her afloat. Also not fun. I want her to be independent in some things and dependent on me for other things, just like I'm independent in some things and dependent on her for other things. Needing help and giving help - reciprocity - are both vital components in creating a bond with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:32 AM
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It doesn't necessarily have to be a problem. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but all eyes put together do create some kind of subjective consensus as to what constitues attractive. And being subjective, there won't be a hard rule that beyond X pounds you are therefore "fat". The problem with making a hard rule on weight is that some are taller than others and muscle weighs more than fat, and the BMI has the same issue. All we can really say is that most men prefer thinner women. I know that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 07:15 PM
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The only solution is to create a better method of seduction and life improvement to replace TRP. It is possible. It can be done. There are a lot of things to improve on. The problem is bloopers are critics, not creators. They'll bitch about anything for hours on end but won't spend a second creating something of their own, because creating something opens you up to criticism and they know from personal experience how ruthless people like themselves can be. So TRP will continue on, because TRP do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 01:42 PM
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Let's recontextualize this a bit. I'm going to assume you're a woman, so I'm sorry if I assume wrong. Imagine 80% of the guys you pass every day are fit and athletic. They're not roided out gym rats, they're not Olympians, they're just guys who run every other day and eat right - you know what they look like. Some of them might be a little bigger than others, some might have the dad bod, but you can tell by looking at them that they take care of themselves. Very few are overweight and none are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 01:31 PM
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Like I said before, you should be careful with your examples. Know your audience. I'm not your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 08:04 PM
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But if you want to motivate or persuade someone then you might as well put a little work into it and use examples that appeal to them. Otherwise, you're just preaching. Do you even realize that Doom came out in 1993 and that the teenagers who played it then are in their late thirties now? Seriously, know your audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:52 PM
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You need better examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:26 PM
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I found what would eventually be TRP after I met my girlfriend, who I would later marry. I found TRP through men's rights. Back then, I was an egalitarian liberal, a progressive, a blooper. I believed in equality, but the equality that applied to everyone, you know, equally. That meant I applied the same standards to women as I did men, and when I did that I noticed how men came in short in many areas. TheHappyMisogynist, ManWomanMyth and Barbarossa were my main introduction into the manosphere.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 03:03 AM
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Tells TRP that they shouldn't generalize women / Generalizes young men's lives as if they all watched action movies and played DOOM. I've never seen such a profound lack of self-awareness, but hey, I'm glad you were able to grow up all by yourself. The results speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:50 PM
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TRP never ruined love for you, man. The approach anxiety you feel, the bitterness about "being beta", feeling that women will never truly love you, that's all internal to you, and TRP wouldn't have changed that either way. At best, you can accuse TRP of making you aware of these things, but wouldn't you rather know than stay ignorant? I'm willing to bet that you're a man in late teens/early twenties. The bad news is that every 20-something guy, especially the reflective "introverted" ones are ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:34 PM
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I can believe that. Say you have an impulsive person. They're going to want to get married right away, and they'll be the first person who wants a divorce when things go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:45 AM
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BTW, this laziness applies to men too. Oh absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:38 PM
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Being fun and entertaining is half the battle, so if you have that covered then you don't need to worry as much. If you think you're too loud then work on it. That's actually a much simpler problem than being quiet and no fun at all.
/r/askTRP18/03/18 07:05 PM
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Have you actually watched Sex and the City? As a straight man, I can definitively say that I've never seen a minute of the show, but given your description it seems that 2 of the 4 didn't chase marriage which is kind of my point, regardless of their moral characters being harpy bitch and unscrupulous slut. But Girls does seem to be an apt example. And let's not get started with Disney. One person can point to The Little Mermaid reinforcing traditional roles and another can point to Mulan doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 06:22 PM
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The problem with "cultural values" arguments is it allows people to make shit up because they can interpret "culture" any way they want, and they can either overplay or undersell any aspect of cultural influence to get the worldview they want, and they never have to prove anything because the evidence is "cultural" and can therefore never be pointed to. For example, what part of popular culture makes women's primary purpose marriage? For every example you could give, there is a counter example, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:39 PM
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Women’s self worth is tied to marriage. I'm amazed by your ability to make shit up with such confidence. How do you know that any woman's self worth is tied to marriage? How many have you asked and who has told you this? Did you come to this conclusion from your own personal experience, or did you read it somewhere like Cosmo, or worse yet: Tumblr? In my experience, every woman that I've known who has gotten married didn't do it because it gave her more self-worth but instead did it for a variet…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:22 PM
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Looking at how miserable a lot of women are in their marriages What women, where? Do you have examples? Because examples from my experience don't support your thesis. Most women want to get married and it's the guy who can take it or leave it. Most men don't want to get married because it doesn't change the relationship that much and it adds a ton of risk to his way of life if she divorces him, and most guys know that once they get married she doesn't have to work as hard on her appearance/demea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:07 PM
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There is no male positivity, so if men want to feel good about themselves then they have to do it from the inside out. They have to face the existential problem of who they are, what kind of archetype they want to embody, and constantly work toward making that fantasy a reality. Positivity coming from the outside will always be unearned to some degree, it will always be second guessed as soon as the person fails, and it will always be fleeting once everyone around you stops cheering you on. Posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:10 PM
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FFS people, you're trying to find a partner who meshes with you, and part of the vetting process involves learning about their past, and yes that means their sexual past. For example: if I'm dating a girl who hasn't had a relationship that has lasted over a year then it's a red flag and I want to know why. Is she a flake that can't do relationships? Was she just meeting the wrong people? Did she have to move every year for school or work? What's the reason? Not everything is deal breaker but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:00 PM
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7-8. If I had a different job then I'd be happier, about a 9. Male, 30, married, RP all the way baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:35 AM
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What does seduction and humor have in common? If you explain it, it will fail. So people aren't going to be okay with bypassing the seduction aspect of it. I think the girls laugh because you might be complaining how hard it is to get a fuck buddy. Those kind of deals are exceedingly rare, and complaining about it is like complaining how hard it is to find a model to go out with you. It shows that your starting position is off base. We're all just trying to find a match, which means testing and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 10:49 PM
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Because if women gave away all their secrets they'd lose a lot of power. There are benefits to keeping it on the DL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 10:40 PM
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It's the internet. People don't interact face to face anymore unless they're at school/class/work so of course they're not going to go out together and actually do things which might lead to relationship/sex. Everyone's is either on their computer or looking at their phone. Including you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 10:16 PM
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I don't think it's the religiosity. I was growing up during the GWB administration when the religious right were pushing for abstinence only sex education HARD, and people still had more sex. It was before my time, but I'm under the impression that even back in the Reagan years 20-something's were having more sex. Plus, the US is the least religious it has ever been. I believe it's the crippling social isolation combined with the ubiquitous online presence that keeps people from interacting on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 10:13 PM
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Equality of opportunity? Yes. Equality of outcome? NO. While it sounds good to have 50% of CEO's and government officials to be men/women, what does that mean for everything else. Should preschool teachers be 50% men? Should construction works be 50% women? And why stop at sex? Asians make up 5.6% of the US population, according to the census. That means Asians can only be 5.6% of total number of doctors. 5.6% of engineers, or coders, or anything else. That also means they MUST be 5.6% of coal m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:36 AM
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Hitting on them creates a hostile environment. Avoiding them creates a hostile environment. Nothing you can do is right, and everything you currently do is wrong. This is what TRP calls a shit test. Nobody gives a shit how you* feel. Get back to work. *Not directed specifically at OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:02 PM
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Myth 1: Men are biologically programmed to prefer non-promiscuous female so they can ensure their reproductive success by not investing on someone else's offspring. I don't see how the sources you provided debunk that myth. The sources you provided say women are better at identifying sociosexuality by visual queues alone. That's not the same thing as preferring low N count. Where's the connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:41 PM
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Same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:46 AM
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The patriarchy had resources which is a form of power. The matriarchy had access to further generations of humans, which is also a form of power, and a resource. Male power needs female power to keep going because all the resources in the world don't provide children by itself, and female power needs male power to keep going because having children requires resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 10:12 PM
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Let's get this out of the way: I don't believe the Patriarchy as you see it exists or has ever existed. I know what feminism says about Patriarchy. I've heard it before. Hearing the same arguments again will not persuade me. Throughout history there were male leaders who were colonizers and brutal tyrants, like Genghis Khan. However, throughout history, there were male leaders who were beneficent and were loved by their subjects, like King Rhamesses II of Egypt. Then, you have female leaders who…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 10:12 PM
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I am a westerner, yes, but if you don't like generalizations against women, and you also don't like generalizations against other races/ethnicites, then you know exactly how I feel when you generalize history. As I said: you weren't there, so you don't know for sure how any of this transpired. The best you can do is take someone else's word for it on faith, which isn't a problem you're more than welcome to do that, but then you go one step further and preach someone else's worldview as if it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 09:10 PM
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You gave me no facts with sources, so you can't really use "the facts" against me. And, from what I can tell, you calling me ignorant is just you projecting. You couldn't possibly know how marriage was different between the bronze age and the feudal age, between the Egyptians and the Celts, so as far as I can tell you're just bullshitting me, and it's not very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:55 PM
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I don't believe you. History is thousands of years old and spans thousands of unique cultures, each separated by continents and ages. You don't have a time machine and I doubt you're a historian, so your generalization isn't persuasive. About the only thing that is true is that marriage was meant to determine paternity, which is such an obvious thing in the days without medical science that it really shouldn't be a shock. But that wasn't the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:24 PM
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It doesn't matter whether something is natural or not because some natural things are bad for you and some artificial things are good for you. See the fallacy Appeal to Nature. The only thing that matters is whether a thing is beneficial or not to the survival of the species. Marriage is so ubiquitous around the world and has lasted for so long then at the very least all you can say is it's less bad than not having marriage. There's an argument to be made that marriage serves a utilitarian good,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:35 PM
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So when you can get casual sex you know women aren't settling for you. In addition to that, it means you have more negotiating power in a relationships, and you don't have to tolerate bad behavior. If used in a positive manner, that leverage can force your partner to act like a mature adult. It can bring very good things to the relationship for both people involved. People lose all respect for their partner when that partner lets them get away with anything, which then build resentment, then hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:26 PM
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Sure, there'd be more competition, but I'm not afraid of the competition. The current paradigm is what'd disastrous for men, not the reverse. Society has a lot more to gain if all the timid, anxious soyboys grew a pair and became men again. And it's not like we're treading new ground here. TRP is only preaching old wisdom that our grandfathers already knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 09:07 PM
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Observations, but also Heartiste has a tag dedicated to scientific studies that support RP game advice, like dread game, hypergamy, mate guarding behavior, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 08:58 PM
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Management at state-level government agencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 08:56 PM
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Toxic femininity doesn't exist because women are an oppressed class and oppressed classes can pretty much do whatever they want no matter how bad it is and if you think that's wrong then you're a bigot in need of reeducation. -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 03:01 AM
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I can't think of a particular topic that I disagree with within TRP, but I really disagree with the commentators and newbies who filter that information through their own personality disorders and act it out in destructive ways. For example, TRP says women like confident bad boys. What's supposed to happen is that you should act like a lovable jerk, keyword being lovable, like me, Bender, but a lot of guys forget the lovable part and just act like jerks. TRP says have standards and don't be afra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 02:45 AM
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TRP exists because its ideas are seen as secret, ancient knowledge, which give those ideas an allure. The concepts are really no different than what old PUA's used to teach. But because PC society has deemed those concepts misogynistic, and has raised boys to be passive and submissive, coming across TRP is like discovering the secrets of the Free Masons or Illuminati or something. That's why it's called The Red Pill. The moment that progressive society admits that there are fundamental differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:37 PM
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I always roll my eyes when someone says "hierarchy" like it's a bad thing. Hierarchies exist everywhere, even in nature. They're reliably solid. Why do you think they have existed for millions of years? The “Red Pill” community is an oppressive hierarchy. A very skewed one at that. A small minority of guys in the community are hardcore-RedPill members, slaves to the ideologies which they passively succumb to. Dude, every organization is like this. Feminism has a small minority of women who are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 07:40 PM
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Within the last decade, especially within the last 5 years, there's a positive correlation between school shootings by young men and a cultural attack on "toxic masculinity". FFS it's not a coincidence. I'm 20 years removed from high school, but if things have gotten worse then the advice always being handed to men is "you're free from the constraints of your gender so that you can do whatever you want.. except rough housing, shit talking, physical competition, gloating, fighting off bullies, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 09:50 PM
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Because being the stoic ripped sex machine is fucking cool all on it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:23 AM
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You're saying responsibility. OP is saying blame. They are NOT the same thing, so you're not arguing the same thing. You argue your points. Let the OP argue theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 02:18 AM
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You're saying men have no sexual agency. No, you're saying men have no sexual agency. See here, in your own post: Men can avoid the situation by either not having sex, or only having sex with women they wouldn't mind having a child with. Why do I only get that choice, as you've defined it? If every man out there only had sex when they were totally and completely ready to have a child with the person they totally and completely trusted then every man would be a virgin until 30. If you're in colle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:13 AM
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OP is saying that if he takes precautions on his side of matters, regardless of any carelessness on her part, unless she is outright stealing the sperm he should be solid. OP is not saying that. Look at OP's reply to me. OP is saying that men and women only have themselves to blame if something goes wrong. Well hold up one second. Life is full of events that no one could see coming, that totally blindside you, and take you off your feet no matter how confident you are or how well you've prepared…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:09 AM
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I hate to say this, but your logic is what's used to blame rape victims for their situation, or to blame people in abusive relationships. "What matters where he chose to put his sperm" = "what matters is how many drinks she had" = "what matters is why she stayed with the guy". Nah. That view just doesn't fly with me. You're trying to make reality black and white and simple, but the world isn't simple. There are always exceptions, there are always other considerations. Your view is a very low res…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:06 AM
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But unless she stole spermicide out of the condom (the only exception) he knows there is a possibility of getting her pregnant. It's not the only exception. Say she forgets to take her birth control. Who's fault is it now? What if she says she's on birth control but lies to him. Who's fault is it now? You can try to make this black and white, but reality is very grey. Men and women have to take responsibility for their actions, but they also have to trust each other, and we as a society have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 11:43 PM
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Patriarchy emerged because someone had to go outside the village and hunt, and since men were stronger and women had children to take care of, the men did it. Hunters then interacted with other tribes and became warriors. Some men eventually began to domesticate animals. Some men became the guards of their farm, and then the guards of their village. Men who traveled from village to village became merchants. Some men became raiders. Some men became soldiers, and their higher-ups became generals. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:49 PM
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Okay, I agree somewhat, but your quality of life is linked to your society. It's not necessarily optimism but pessimism that makes me advocate doing good, or I prefer to call it 'contributing to order', because I realize that we could collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:08 PM
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Nice Guys are overly nice because in their fantasy they want a demure girl to be overly nice to them. So they think: if I act like that to the person I like then they will like me. Their own desires stand as a reference point to how they think they should treat others, but it's a skewed viewpoint. I'm red pill because I accept the truth behind men and women, but I accept kindness on top of that because I believe that helping out your people makes your people strong and more able to survive in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:05 PM
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Incorrect. If they really wanted to manipulate, they would do something that, y'know, actually worked. Well, I didn't say they were good at it. It definitely doesn't work. Nice Guys think it does because that same behavior is what they want done to them. It's projection, and insecurity, among many other things. No comment on how you treat women. If it works, it works. But, I do think "niceness" does exist, depending on how you define it. I think there are things, usually small things, we can do …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:30 AM
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How old are you, OP? I ask because, no offense intended, it seems like your viewpoint doesn't come from experience, but from thinking about it in isolation. Many philosophers, psychologists and biologists have all examined your stance: why be helpful? They've come to the conclusion that small self-sacrifice, or doing good deeds without personal gain but also without personal injury, is evolutionarily beneficial to the species. If you have a group of people, like a large family, who do good thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:34 AM
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It all comes down to friend groups. The 40-something man who is unmarried and/or unemployed probably has no friends. What reason do you have to NOT off yourself? I think, generally, women have more friends than men, and they're more likely to seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:05 AM
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TRP would suggest to date down to women in their late 20's. You might have better luck there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 02:25 AM
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It's easy to point to another group being the cause of your problems. It's a very low-level thinking pattern. Just blame someone else. But you're also kind of right - a lot of men do suck. They need to improve and get better and stop listening to the conventional wisdom that turns them into fat wimps. However, stating the problem like you have doesn't earn you any points. You are more deceptive by presenting a half truth than presenting an outright lie. Men and women take behavioral cues from ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:33 PM
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Nah. They're accurate and typical. 10 years ago, I was one of those fuckers. It's like that and more, and it's pretty widespread. Every insecure dude has a Nice Guy hiding somewhere in there. The insecurity makes them obsessed about ONE girl, it turns them into doormats, makes them profusely polite, paranoid about cheating, and evaporates any trust they have in their friends or relationships. There are thousands of horror stories and absolutely no success stories coming from this kind of behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:14 AM
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My mother has a successful carrier as a military contractor doing data analysis for the US Navy. She went to college for computer science back when you had to run computer programs by feeding punch-cards into mainframe computers. But she didn't have a successful marriage. She divorced my dad when I was 10 and as a single mother she didn't provide the guidance I needed because of that career. I ended up leaving her care when I was 16. My wife is successful because she's competent at what she does…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 01:14 AM
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I don't think he is popular with the alt right. If anyone tells you that, ask them what proportion of his fans are alt right and what proportion of alt-righters like Peterson. You won't get any hard statistics because there aren't any. The media likes to bind Peterson to the alt right because it's a great way to disqualify him, but in the end the fans of his don't really matter - his ideas do. If I get famous for making a political point, like let's say against affirmative action (as an example)…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:27 PM
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Want girls to be interested in you? Stop worrying about girls. Stop worrying about most shit. Zero Fucks Given = Outcome Independence = you don't really care either way how shit goes. I can only read between the lines, but this is what I get: You're impatient, because you spent a month improving and expect better results. The reality is a month is like nothing in the grand scheme of things and self improvement is a long term process, so don't get discouraged over not seeing immense gains in such…
/r/askTRP01/02/18 03:35 AM
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Peterson doesn't want to say zhe, or zir, or any other made up pronoun and I don't see the problem with that position. If I wanted to be called "Balrog the Destroyer", and not he, or she, or you, or they, or any other pronoun, and not Balrog either but the full name of Balrog the Destroyer in any context that I deem necessary, because I super duper identify with it, then you'd think it was a ridiculous request and you likely wouldn't do it for understandable reasons. The whole zhe, zir, etc. thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:05 AM
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The reason why women are rare at the top is because there's no one to date (among dozens of other reasons). Obviously feminists wanting more women in positions of power and status fail to realize that it's very, very lonely up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:53 PM
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Feminism produces the numale grimace. It does not make men attractive, unless you're into hipsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:11 AM
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Rape can be about anything the perpetrator wants. That's the real scary shit. If it was just about power, or just about sex, then it'd be a simple problem to diagnose. The world isn't that simple though. I don't think anyone has an answer for that, and I doubt we'd ever find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:07 AM
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Just like every young women gravitates toward Chads, knowing full well that these guys aren't good for them, every young man gravitates toward Stacy, ignoring all her red flags. Most people are still trying to figure themselves out. They don't know who they are, what they want, and what's truly good for them, and so they're inevitably going to make mistakes. When I was single, the idea of a "type" just didn't compute, because I was single and I wanted anyone, whether or not they were good for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:03 AM
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Dread game is meant to get their attention. Once you have it, you really should ease up. You gotta relieve her tension and do a little comfort game. That's where she's getting frustrated. She's obviously interested and sees potential but you're almost too aloof at this point in the relationship that it's throwing her off. If you keep up the ZFG then you will lose her, without a doubt, and if that's not a problem then hey don't let me stop you. But if you'd like to keep this girl for longer to se…
/r/askTRP30/01/18 03:12 AM
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Nice Guys are worse because they rely on the bait and switch while Chads, as much as some people might dislike them, are straightforward at least. A Chad won't pretend to be someone's friend only to drop the "I like you and always have" bombshell, then to chimp out when they're rejected, like this, or something like this. A Chad would just be like "okay cool" and move on to the next person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:57 PM
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Can you take what you want and leave the rest and it still work? For sure. Nothing says you must accept everything at once, and I would encourage you not to. Maybe this distinction will help, or maybe not, but try to separate anger from resentment. Being told to act a certain way all your life and then finding out that the entire time you weren't just wrong, but acting completely counter to your goals, will definitely cause some anger. Having thought women acted a certain way only to learn after…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:29 PM
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Sorry, OP, I wish I could disagree. I think the only thing I would disagree on is that manipulation that uses deception is wrong, but manipulation without deception is still widely and frequently used with beneficial or benign effects. Like, pointing out a flaw in someone's thinking or informing them of something they might not have known is manipulating and changing their psychological state, and most of the time it helps them out. And if people really didn't want to be manipulated then why do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:13 PM
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I don't agree. I don't believe strength and vulnerability are on the same scale. You can't be both weak and strong, but you can be weak and vulnerable and you can be strong and vulnerable because even the strongest armor has a gap, meaning every person, no matter how great, still has a vulnerability. There's nothing wrong with a man showing a woman he knows and trusts his vulnerability. In fact, it can increase that trust between them. Weakness is something else entirely. If you're weak, you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:06 AM
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If the boards and steel are too expensive then business will hire people and automation will be postponed. That's still a win. And if we're importing cheap stuff for the last 50 years then why is cost of living still high? It should be low if the economic models are right. I'm of the opinion that things being made here are not that expensive and things made abroad are still not that cheap. Apple phones are made in China and are still $900 a piece. The cost savings isn't always transferred to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:52 PM
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True, automation would still occur, but if you're going to build robots then the steel might as well come from Pittsburgh rather than Japan and the boards can be made somewhere like Texas instead of China. That would still put citizens to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 06:46 PM
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But now I am curious what if I did vasectomy and didn't mention it to her. Well of course it is my body my choice and my privacy and nobody needs to know it... When you form a relationship with someone you're no longer a simple individual. That "my privacy my choice, my body my choice" is no longer as clear because now two people have become one. They are entitled to a certain degree of information which could make or break the partnership and by keeping that relevant information from your partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:00 PM
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I can only speak for myself but, in order of importance: 1: Higher tariffs for overseas manufacturing to return manufacturing jobs to the US. 2: Greatly but temporarily restrict immigration into western countries, both illegal and legal until the demographic decline is fixed internally. 3: Trust busting, a lot of trust busting. Media conglomerates are way too powerful in that they can just buy up competitors. 4: Reform divorce law. Not exactly sure how though. There's a financial incentive for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:41 PM
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First sentence: For 99% of our human history, we were a nomadic species, moving from place to place as Hunter-Gatherers. Nomadic hunter gatherers basically live in mud huts, tents or yurts so that they can pack up easily and follow animal migration. A "return to form of feminism", which isn't really even true but w/e, isn't a selling point because why would you want to take cues from pre-civilization, or even pre-agricultural people? What's progressive about that? With that line of reasoning, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:22 AM
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It's been the said on TRP that if men were ever spirited away then women would go back to living in mud huts. It seems that the writer of the article agrees with this, seeing how our "natural state" means living as nomads in mud huts. It really, really odd sometimes how the two ends of a spectrum can somehow converge with each other, like radfems and tradcons, or in this case, feminists and TRP. How about we don't rely on shitty reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:14 AM
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A university campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:28 PM
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You have to put more effort into thinking about stuff like this. "Doesn't it suck that women had no choice" is basement-tier analysis. History is thousands of years old and spans thousands of unique civilizations, cultures and tribes, each with their own general rule set, and each with their own unique exceptions. Boiling it all down to "it's really messed up" is like high school freshmen term paper level depth. How do you know it's messed up? Were you there? And if you were born into that syste…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 06:10 PM
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I have no problem with any example above, given the information I have in front of me. People living through a tough life aren't necessarily bad people. Failure isn't necessarily a bad thing either. If you're going to judge someone based on their economic circumstances then the really one and only thing is their debt. Someone making 18k a year with no debt is a multitudes better prospect than someone making 30k a year with 60k in student loans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:45 AM
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25 % of millennial men think asking someone for a drink is harassment. 33% of millennial men and women say that if a man compliments a woman’s looks it is harassment Two thoughts: 1) Was the poll taken in Portland, San Francisco and/or Washington DC? 2) I'm totally fine with this. Less competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:41 AM
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It makes perfect sense when you look at the methodology. If you show women a series of pictures of men, each picture with a description of what the man does or likes, then of course women are going to rate men based on appearance - it's about all you have to go by.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:54 PM
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But were you, personally, raised in that household? OP is asking for specific experiences from your own life of people telling you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:17 AM
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The reason OP wants to give specifics is because if people accept the amorphous "girls are told they're inferior" WITHOUT further investigation, and it turns out that in reality NOBODY is directly saying to a woman's face that she's inferior, then the whole thing is just an urban legend and women are believing it because it fits their PERSONAL insecurities. I get that there were, or are, some old fashioned people out there who don't trust women to be auto mechanics. I get that there are misogyni…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:08 AM
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Most of these are generalities, not specifics. Who cares what the Old Testament and Ancient Greeks thought? In your life outside of the internet, has anyone singled you out and said that you were inferior because you were a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:02 AM
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For context: I'm happily married so it's not like I have a personal stake in wanting men and women to stay single. I'd rather relationships be stable and happy but that's not the world we live in. I think you outlined the problem right: men are at risk of being taken advantage of and women are at risk of being abandoned. But the deeper problem is the court system. That alone is a deterrent to men getting married. If men perceive the court system to be corrupt then they will avoid it. So you eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:07 PM
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So the adult version of throwing a massive hissy-fit and shooting everyone including themselves in the foot. Stupendous show of judgement there. Well, what else can you do if the system is corrupt and your input doesn't matter? Let the mother fucker burn!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:24 PM
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Not every state has alimony so it won't affect everyone. I think the logic was to make alimony just like child support. Currently, you cannot deduct child support payments of any kind and you cannot be taxed if you're the recipient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:22 PM
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Roles can be negotiated on a marriage by marriage basis, so I don't understand the hangup on traditional roles for husband/wife. If you don't want them, don't do them. If your partner wants you to do them and you don't then negotiate or find another partner. If other people outside your relationship want to do them, then what's it to you? I think people get emotional over gender/marriage roles in theory but when it comes to the real world they're not an actual problem because no one is physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:10 PM
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You can keep that arrangement so long as you don't have kids. As soon as you have kids, the courts gain control over distribution of your assets after the marriage. Even if you and your wife have plans settled to split it 50/50, and both of you agree to that, the courts can overturn it based on the child custody laws that apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:53 PM
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Creep should mean a person who breaks typical social norms. For example, if a woman stands up from her bus seat and leaves, and a guy goes over to her seat to smell it, that is absolute 100% creepy behavior, and that guy is a creep for doing it. It's gross and no one should do it, ever. But some women use the word creep to mean anything that she doesn't personally like or finds awkward, even if it's socially acceptable to do it. For example, a man comes up to her at a bar and starts up a convers…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:28 PM
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If TRP was an ideology that didn't work then we wouldn't be here right now. We're on year 10 of the manosphere and it's still chugging along. TBP is a satirical reaction to TRP. Not an ideology. Incels don't have an ideology, or a set of beliefs. They're a collection of disturbed young men. If your set of beliefs constitutes: ideologies are wrong because they're ideologies then you, sir, have an ideology. Ideologies aren't bad. At best there's low-resolution views of the world, but they all have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:46 PM
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I don't think Rey is a Mary Sue. Mary Sues are 1) author self insert characters 2) competent in everything 3) adored by the rest of the cast. She definitely fits #2. Rey is too good at too many things for no adequate reason, but she's purposefully generic as to be a blank slate for the female audience and not everyone is fawning over her. 1/3 does not make a Mary Sue. I find her completely unlikable and forgettable though. Star Wars became crap thanks to the prequel trilogies and it's still crap…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:39 PM
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Seriously speaking, what a person values in their partner is completely subjective and no one else's business, including valuing low N count. Let's turn it around on you. Why do you care that other people care about other people's N counts? What insecurities do you hold by trying to make N count not a thing? I know plenty of men and women who don't care about N count, and plenty of men and women who do. What's it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:24 PM
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Whether intentional or not, the original trilogy was pitch perfect for adolescent boys, though people outside that demographic enjoyed it as well. The last trilogy is engineered to appeal to women. I don't even blame Disney, because I really enjoyed Rogue One, and that had a female lead. They know how to do the Star Wars aesthetic, if they try. The new Star Wars is designed to appeal to women because of how they reframe The Force. The Force was supposed to be something you had to work toward and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:07 AM
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You don't need qualifications to be right, you just have to be right. It actually plays to the strengths of TRP that there is no "qualified" gurus, because people will believe "qualified" "experts" even when they're wrong, and it's actually much harder to prove "qualified" "experts" wrong when they are indeed wrong due to social inertia. That's part of problem with human advancement - the "experts" of old hold back the "experts" of now. With semi-anonymous people making claims it's ridiculously …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:54 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. The world is full of people with different views than you, and just as you think they're wrong, they think you're wrong. If you're trying to fix a problem and you're getting resistance than either change your tactics or learn to be persuasive. I can't tell you how to fix your shit, not that you'd listen to me anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 09:46 PM
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A faction of TRP denouncing self-sacrifice does not necessarily mean that TRP as a whole denounces self-sacrifice. From TRP sidebar, I haven't seen the issue addressed, nor have I seen that situation appear in the manosphere blogs I've read, so I don't think the topic is part of TRP. I'm not convinced you're right, OP. I think this is just a few guys with personal views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:11 PM
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I don't know about nerdy girls but there is a contingent of low SMV women that become sluts in order to "prove" how well they can get men. It's a reactionary defense mechanism to their low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:03 PM
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If my wife cheated I probably would question paternity, not only with the child she was currently pregnant with, right then and there, but also of any children we already have. I get that cheating hurts people, no matter the sex. My wife and I currently have no kids and if she cheated it would be the end of our marriage. It'd be devastating. I'm sure if you were in the same situation it would be exactly the same thing. Men and women would feel betrayed by their partner cheating, just as a baseli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:08 PM
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If your experience is mostly bad then it can break the illusion that women are holier than men. It might even break a guy. Make him jaded or cynical. However, I think guys like incels have a far greater hatred of women. In all, I think the bad aspects of experience are minor compared to the bad aspects of ignorance, and at least experience can protect you from betrayal. And if women's preferences are any indication, they don't care about misogyny nearly as much as they say, because it appears th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:48 PM
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That's an example, but it's an anonymous writer. I'm convinced that things like that exist, because it's a great big world out there, but as I said before they're edge cases. Assuming you're a woman, and assuming you have a male partner, and assuming that they cheated on you, would the first thing that popped into your mind be child support for the bastard?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:42 PM
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Not every place is some super liberal utopia of open mindedness. Why does every place have to be? If you don't live there, why should you care? And why do your prescriptions have to go through the schools? I already said schools aren't going to teach you how to masturbate. That's a can of worms the school boards are not even going to touch so you might as well save yourself the effort and stop barking up the wrong tree. And if women are having problems figuring themselves out, then how is that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:36 PM
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I'm already aware abstinence only sex education is ineffective. That's not my point. The belief that conservatives are still trying to stop it in [Current Year] like this is 2002, and the belief that sexism in science is preventing women from figuring out their vaginas, is radical lefty delusional bullshit. Get off tumblr and step outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:17 PM
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Okay, give me an example. People always respond with hypotheticals as if something being possible means it's probable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:09 PM
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Not saying you're wrong, but I am saying that if I had to live with bachelor roommates again rather than live with the wife I have now, I would just fucking end it. Living with your friends is cool in college or immediately after, but at some point you gotta get your life together and strive for better things. That doesn't have to be marriage, but it does have to be better than video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:49 PM
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I think you need to get off tumblr and get some experience in the real world, because "religious conservatives refuse to fund sex education and the scientific field is too male dominated and sexist to do any real research into women’s sexual function" is radical lefty bullshit. Which scientific field is preventing women from getting a dildo? Also, schools aren't going to teach you how to play with yourself. That request is beyond the pale. And what school isn't addressing basic sex education whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:44 PM
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I view cheating differently, because a woman can't get cuckolded with a child that's not her's. People here have tried to convince me otherwise, but a woman getting cucked is such an edge case that no one has been able to provide one real world example of it happening, so effectively there's a 0% chance. Critics can save me the hypotheticals. Everyone is going to feel betrayed when their partner cheats, because cheating sucks, and each sex is going to see their situation as worse. What I know fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:39 PM
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The word misogyny is so overused that, at this point, it basically means: any comment about a women or women that isn't overly positive. Women aren't above criticism. They aren't magical or divine. Once you get it out of your head that women are beyond human, you see them for what they are: human, and humans are apes, and apes can do some nasty shit to each other. Experience doesn't make you a misogynist; it merely shows you the good and the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:26 PM
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He's not saying all women are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:16 PM
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I'm an outlier. I don't have a problem with the distribution of women - just because ~80% of women want the top ~20% of men doesn't mean they'll ever get the chance. It's mostly fantasy. I do have a problem with the distribution of wealth for a variety of reasons. And if I had the choice to tackle one of those issues, and only one, it'd be the wealth problem, because fixing wealth distribution also fixes the woman distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:26 PM
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Simply put, a right wing ideology puts the individual first - not the group. If you fuck up, it's likely your fault. The silver lining to that thinking is that you can improve your situation by improving yourself. In contrast, left wing ideologies blame all people's problems on hierarchy and systemic oppression, which deters believers from taking a good hard look at what they are doing wrong with their lives and improving on it. Blaming a collective group for personal failure is a very appealing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:17 PM
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If people are suffering and TRP offers them a way out then of course people will continually flock to it. It's not that hard, people. Want an alternative? Then fucking sell it. Have something to offer. Appeal to people's self interest. Be persuasive. TBP is just a joke. Seriously. r/thebluepill is only there for satirizing TRP, but has never, and was never intended to, offer anything of substance. It's not an ideological position. It isn't anything, so of course it's not going to get any tractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 10:06 PM
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Because society's a game and if some players think the rules are rigged then they'll flip the table and no one gets to play anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 09:58 PM
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Yeah, I'd be okay with it, depending on her looks/personality and if she was good with kids. Though, I wouldn't like it if she was a bartender. I've done the late/weekend shift and it doesn't help a relationship. She should take her lack of ambition somewhere with a sweet employee discount.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 01:28 AM
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Not to be snarky or dismissive but I'll need to see some stats on men statistically being bad parents before I believe it, because my reality as a kid was very, very different than your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:36 PM
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I do agree that the mother plays a primary role when the child is just born up until the age of 2 or 3. After that though, anyone can take care of a child if they're a good parent because, at that point, the child's developmental level requires broader socialization outside the home. Maternal care doesn't matter much after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 03:01 PM
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As much as I hate to side with the law on this, it's because it takes two people to have sex and there is a possibility that the other person could have taken advantage of you. The problem is essentially different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:01 AM
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Went to college for Psychology. Got the degree. Worked in retail/food service for a few years until I got a job at a tech startup and was promoted to a department lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:56 AM
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You make some good points, u/KwesiJohnson, but they're all invalid because, as an American, you've hurt my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:54 AM
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Not necessarily, if they can hold onto multiple branches at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:47 AM
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It's hard to frame hypergamy in economic terms and get far analytically. It's much more useful as a general rule of thumb: women tend to date up. I'm curious, OP, where have your travels taken you? I've only been out of the US a handful of times so I wonder what you've observed and where.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:46 AM
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Being married without kids shouldn't provide any tax benefits. Having kids out of wedlock should have a tax penalty. Being married with kids should come with a tax credit. That should take care of the social engineering aspect. More equitable divorce. Assuming that the female parent is the primary caregiver because she has a uterus is sexist on top of being wrong a non-trivial part of the time. And the idea that the children should keep the same standard of living after the divorce as before the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:40 AM
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I'm RP and married. Marriage can be a raw deal at it's worst - there's no argument about that - but marriage also can be a great thing. You can never know for certain beforehand, but at some point in your life you have to make the choice to either walk into the unknown or stay in your comfort zone. The unknown always has the potential to destroy us, but the unknown also has the possibility of fulfilling us in ways that we couldn't imagine. The RP man can definitely still get married because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:08 PM
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We maybe argue once every 3 months. There's no yelling, shouting, or name calling. We talk about what we need to talk about and there is always some kind of resolution. I also don't keep track of who "wins". Arguments are typically the result of a misunderstanding at some level, so if you can clearly articulate your point of view then you can resolve it without a whole bunch of drama (aside: why would you even want to yell at or berate your partner? They're YOUR partner. Treating them like shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:56 PM
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This is normal. You can't convince people on the other side. It's better to focus on the bystanders, but it's best to focus on the next generation. It's my opinion that TBP fails to give the next generation anything of value. It says: be yourself, be polite, always treat women with respect. That's Nice Guy shit. That's where Nice Guys come from. TRP does give you something of substance, even if that thing is immature and ultimately fleeting - poon. Say what you want about that, but you can't den…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:25 AM
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Who the hell says that a 30 year old guy needs to date a 30 year old woman? I take it that OP is a woman and hasn't stepped outside herself to understand the opposite sex, otherwise she'd realize how ridiculous this statement is. Brotip: men can date women younger than themselves. It's women who are largely fucked when they're 30 and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:15 AM
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lol I'm not really seeing the selling point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 03:22 AM
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This is becoming more of the norm Why nitpick?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:25 PM
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Look, I never said that they were the norm, yet. I said that the ideas are proliferating, and that's the problem. I can understand people who don't believe in evolution, and I can get a laugh out of people who think the world is flat, and I can even listen to people who believe the Anunaki are controlling all the world's governments but to deny sex differences, as obvious as they are, is a work of intellectual deception so egregious that it shouldn't exist at the university level at all, period.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:01 PM
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And hormone imbalances aren't a cake walk either. Then you're talking mood alteration, psychological side effects, sterilization and increased risk for cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:55 PM
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Second, no one is suggesting that biological sex "isn't real." Only that biological sex is distinct from gender. Do a Google search for "biological sex isn't real" and you'll get plenty of tumblrites that actually believe that biological sex isn't a real thing. It's not just the low level activists either who believe this. Off the top of my head, Nicholas Matte of the University of Waterloo when on TV and said the same thing: link. "It is not correct that there is such a thing as biological sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:53 PM
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Nope, because when getting my psych degree we went into detail about what "transitioning" actually does to the body. Surgically removing my testicles and inverting the penis is one thing, but most people don't know that afterwards you must stick a balloon inside your "vagina" and inflate it every single day for the rest of your life otherwise your body will naturally close up the orifice on its own. Not to mention PI"V" sex is extremely difficult and you can no longer climax. Yeah, sounds like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:45 PM
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I accept Lewis's schema that female infidelity is different and maybe even harsher in how it represents, effectively, a total rejection of the man whom she leaps from. But, it is also fundamentally more honest; she doesn't cheat more opportunistically, even though her life is one long sexual opportunity. She cheats when she's fallen out of love. I think it's all in how you look at it. I'm sure what you said is true for some people, but this can be framed in a slightly different way and it justif…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:46 AM
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Yes, definitely please talk to others, because that line of reasoning is just awful for justifying anything. For example, I could say that false rape accusers should get twice the punishment as the rapist. Now I honestly think that's a terrible idea but, hypothetically, I could justify that stance by saying "What? You think that punishment is too harsh? Well you should only be concerned if you're a liar". This immediately writes off any dissent and places the dissenter into the perpetrator colum…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:26 PM
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All I'm saying is, "you should only fear X if you're one of them" is really crappy justification. It assumes that X will always be right and never get any false positives. It's a fallacy because everyone is fallible any every system has flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:09 AM
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Are you telling me any male will be accused just because he has a dong down there? According to your logic, yes. See r/tumblrinaction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:08 AM
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I remember the same logic after 9/11. Only terrorists should fear the TSA/NSA, because they're the perpetrators. No innocent person should ever fear the TSA/NSA. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 12:11 AM
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Because OP is trying for a specific answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 12:05 AM
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WTF is up with this low tier shitpost? These stereotypes aren't even actual stereotypes; they're just your fantasy, OP. Feminine women like to look pretty most of the time and aren't disagreeable bitches. That's a pretty low bar, meaning that's a lot of women, like the vast majority of women, including some grads from MIT. In contrast, the aggro hag does not like to lift weights, as you say, but is rather a HAES advocate with a short, neon haircut and problem glasses. Because hey, if we're going…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:49 PM
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I'd partially agree. I'd amend the statement to "Most men aren't bad people, but most overtly bad people are men." Men are by nature outwardly aggressive when they go feral, so they're easy to spot, and it's therefore easy to conclude that most bad humans are men, but behind closed doors women can be monsters as well. We're all human. We're all capable of some pretty bad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 09:24 PM
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I've been dabbling in the manosphere on and off since 2009, and the idea that TRP believes men owned women or that women contributed nothing in hunter-gatherer societies is a surprise to me. I don't believe that's RP cannon. It has always been the belief that men and women each contributed at least something, even when those things are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:45 PM
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Where does it literally say in TRP that women did literally nothing? I haven't seen it, nor do I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:38 PM
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I think the news story is bunk, because the study doesn't say that early hunter gatherers were egalitarian. They took the behavior of current tribes in the Congo and a single tribe in the Philippines as a base for a computer model, and then did virtual genetic modeling on how closely related the tribes were. They found that if men had sole authority to ban or accept people from the tribe then the genetic modeling showed closer kin relationships in the tribe. Egalitarian modeling showed further o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:33 PM
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What does this say about societies attitudes toward sexual harassment and assault? Does this indicate that the feminist dogma and ideas about sexual consent are becoming more mainstream? Our culture has a problem with giving victims of anything saintly status, whether you're a victim of sexual harassment, or racial profiling, or you've experienced any kind of prejudice. The knee-jerk reaction is to always coddle the oppressed rather than ask first if they need support in the first place. Many pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:20 PM
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Both? Waiting is beta, almost by definition. It's complete lack of options. It's reverse-abundance mentality. Don't ever wait for a girl. Either she's available as a romantic interest or not, and if not you should move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 12:10 AM
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What do you want from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 11:44 PM
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But I'm concerned with the message it sends. First, awkward and inexperienced people don't need another reason to be scared of rejection (seeing themselves as a sexual harasser). Specifically that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 02:22 PM
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One tried to have sex with a child, one asked a colleague if he could jerk off in front of her at work, and one is literally accused of rape. To call these scenarios "the slightest discomfort" is pretty dishonest. I'm not being dishonest. Everything you mentioned is sick and abusive and needs appropriate punishment. I'm not referring to that. I have no problem with people coming out if they were abused and the abuser getting the appropriate response. But I do foresee problems if we cultivate a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:34 PM
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Yeah, I don't get it. Just because something is unwanted, or makes you uncomfortable temporarily, doesn't mean it has to be this big cosmic drama. Homeless people coming up to me and asking me for money is completely unwanted, because I'd rather they didn't, but that doesn't mean it's harassment. Just say no and move on like a mature adult. I think people are becoming more isolated and neurotic. They just don't know how to deal with others and they have psychic armor made of glass. They crumple …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:23 AM
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Happiness tends to fall under the "Extroversion/Introversion" arm of the Big 5 traits, as Extroverted people are, generally speaking, happier. There doesn't seem to be a big difference between men and women there. Agreeable tends to encompass non-combative natures. They're usually "Go along to get along" or "don't rock the boat" kind of people. People low in agreeableness will tell you you're wrong, and sometimes enjoy doing so. But the split in agreeableness between men and women isn't all that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:58 AM
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Not crazier per se, according to the researcher's definition of Neuroticism, just more prone to negative emotion, like anxiety and sadness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:40 PM
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Neurology isn't the same thing as cognitive psychology. I'm not sure where the origins of the Big 5 come from, but the Myers Briggs was based off Carl Jung's work in psychoanalysis. I love Jung, but his methodology was not experimental and doesn't reflect our actual cognition - only a basic facsimile of it. Feeling vs thinking - we all do both. Sensing versus intuition - we all sense and we all intuit. Same goes for judging and perceiving. It's why on any given day I can be an INTP or an INTJ. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:30 PM
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the MBTI is about ones primary cognitive processes That's not true. The Myers Briggs was created in 1943, back before the field of cognitive psychology which was created in 1967.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:16 PM
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Nobody studying personality uses the Myers-Briggs anymore, and hasn't for many decades. Most personality psychologists consider that particular test pseudoscience. The Big 5 is where it's at. There is no male or female archetype for personality. There are clusters of traits and general trends. Women tend to have higher Agreeableness and Neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 10:18 PM
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I think you've found a few tangentially related studies to support a single-dimensional ideological worldview. I think that the anger felt in the manosphere comes from many sources, some of them justified and some not, and that attributing "threatened masculinity" to their anger is getting real close to gas lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 10:12 PM
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If you're not happy then leave. Obviously your instincts are telling you somethings wrong. Your girl likely has no respect for you because you tolerate abuse and you stay. You have two choices: don't tolerate the abuse or don't stay. I'd go with the latter because, if your perspective is correct, she isn't worth staying with. Please, I’m the only one patient enough to put up with your bullshit. When returning a shit test with a joke, don't use expletives. Pretend you're playing with a child, or …
/r/askTRP25/11/17 03:18 PM
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If it was your buddy and the two of them were talking about childhood fishing trips then you weren't AMOG'd - he just had something in common with her and you dropped out of the conversation. It happens. You're going to find casual social situations in which a girl you like clicks better with one of your friends. Perhaps you could have done something different to keep her interested in you, or perhaps it was inevitable that she gravitated to him. The only thing you can control is how interesting…
/r/askTRP25/11/17 03:05 PM
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Any girl who talks about her sex life on the first date or two is a girl who lacks any modesty, so act accordingly: (Hit it and) quit it.
/r/askTRP25/11/17 02:50 PM
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Courts tend to side with the mother in cases of child custody because we have a cultural perception that women and mothers are better at raising kids. Sometimes that is correct, in which case children should go with their mothers. But sometimes that is not correct. Sometimes the mother is a train wreck, but the courts grant custody to her anyways much to the detriment of the children. Another cause of divorce rape is allegations of abuse, physical, sexual, or psychological. In divorce law this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:44 PM
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It depends on the lodge. There are good opportunities to meet people and improve your oratory skills. I mean, it's not going to turn you into Chad Ubermench if you're looking at it strictly from a self improvement angle, but there are good things about it. You can meet a lot of good people and I think that's important with how isolated we are these days.
/r/askTRP13/11/17 01:25 AM
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Not every positive interaction is sexual. It doesn't have to be. And it isn't instantaneous. It's about building rapport with people. Being funny is a good way to do that, among other things. Some woman isn't attracted to me. I give her 10k. That makes her feel good much better than the funniest joke. Do you really think she's attracted all of a sudden? Yeah, actually. I'm sure that works on some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:13 AM
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Could it go both ways? Let's say you're attracted to someone. You've got love struck hormones and neurotransmitters swirling around in your head. They say something mildly funny and of course you're going laugh. But you can always meet a stranger who you're not attracted to and they tell you a legitimately funny joke. Your brain flushes with those neurotransmitters again and associates that feeling with the person saying it. Over time, you can build attraction. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:09 PM
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Obviously, you perceive your partner differently because you love them a certain way that no one else does, so indeed perception is king in any relationship. Two relationships can have the exact same division of labor, but if one perceives itself as a hierarchy and one perceives itself as egalitarian than the perceptual difference could mean the world to the people in it. Sometimes is all in how you sell an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:05 PM
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Sorry to hear that blue collar folks in China are shit tier. Most blue collar workers in the west are black or Hispanic, or Asian if you're in the UK. Did you mean to be racist or is that an honest mistake? (Sometimes the tumblr stuff makes for a fantastic bludgeon)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:58 PM
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There's nothing you can do about a really, really good liar, but keep your eyes and instincts on the watch for certain tells and inconsistencies. Maintaining a certain outward persona takes energy. Most predators eventually let the mask slip in a moment of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:15 PM
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Most relationships don't work because most people are broken, insecure, and don't know how to effectively communicate. Once you sort yourself out and learn how to ask the right questions, listen to what they're really saying, and frame a persuasive argument, you've solved half the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:04 PM
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TL;DR: It's the [Current Year]. We're on the right side of history. Get with the times, bigots. BearSaint, I get it, you're very righteous. I'm sure all your progressive friends love you for it, but hate to burst your bubble you can't change human biology. No matter how many soyboys suffer from clinically low testosterone, them dressing as women won't make them women. Inverting their penis to make a hole doesn't make that hole a vagina. And doing so won't make them feel better about themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:59 PM
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From the nice Christian folks at Hobby Lobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:53 PM
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I'm married and TRP keeps our relationship going and staves off beta behavior. This April is our 10th anniversary. Marriage is always an option, maybe not a smart option for a lot of men/women, but it's there for when you click with the right person. TRP has helped in many facets of my life. It forced me to get my shit together and stop being weak and insecure. That is what it's for.
/r/askTRP05/11/17 11:52 PM
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A few years ago NO MA'AM, a blog in the early days of the manosphere, said that women reach psychological maturity at 15 because nature needs them ready to handle children, but that they stay at that maturity level until menopause for the same reason. The conclusion was that women mature faster, but stay as teenagers for the majority of their life until either kids or menopause force them to confront a higher level of maturity. Now, I don't know if that's entirely true, but what is true about me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:34 PM
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The lesson is: stay away from the "Nice Guys". Their self-delusion allows them to justify anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:37 AM
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You don't know what sacrifice means. Sacrifice doesn't require a bloody death on a stone altar. It means you give up something good in the present moment for something better in the future, or to someone else. Giving up my coat to someone who doesn't have one is a personal sacrifice - I'm fucking cold, but now they're warm. I don't need to die for it to be a personal sacrifice. What relevance is bloodline. You obviously haven't had a parent die, otherwise you'd see it differently. Perhaps you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:30 AM
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Which is a sacrifice. You sacrifice your personal future, your bloodline, your future family, so that the environment doesn't take a beating. It is 100% a personal sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:13 AM
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No, I'm saying that you want to sacrifice people who act good and you want to pardon people who act bad. Genetics has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:11 AM
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Why do the countries who are environmentally conscious and doing their part need to sacrifice for the countries that don't care? Why are you willing to sacrifice the good so that the bad can propagate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:09 AM
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Although 2.1 is not excessive replacement 2.1 is considered perfect replacement. 1 man and 1 woman make 2 children. They don't add extra people, only replace themselves. The .1 is "extra" people for those who die by accident. Therefore, a population at 2.1 replacement will not change size. So in that sense it's a very charitable cause. Self-sacrifice is only moral of it contributes to the greater good. Sacrificing yourself so that others can do wrong without cost is not moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:01 AM
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TRP is at the mercy of the personalities who contribute to it. Being the internet, you've got a lot of toxic people running around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:59 PM
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Anyone reading this forum very likely lives in a country where the birth rate averages to 2.1 births per woman - replacement level. Why not take this question to Niger and ask them to stop having 7 kids per woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:55 PM
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You only take the pill you want. You don't want to see the studies that show that women prefer men who are tall as opposed to manlets. You don't want to admit that there are things affecting your SMV that you have little control over. That's not it at all. Everyone will admit that women like tall men, but TRP will attempt to instill in a young man that it's also futile to worry about things you cannot change, and to change the things you can. I'm not sure why this is framed as a negative thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:51 PM
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Truth isn't dictated by popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 01:42 AM
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Yeah, I'm going against the grain, but I'm married RP so I live against the grain. Maybe what I say will help, but ultimately you do what you think is right. If she doesn't hesitate to give you an upfront answer to a straightforward question then she doesn't think what she did was wrong. That could be because she's a hoe and hoe behavior is normal to her, or it could be because it was an innocent exchange and she didn't think much of it, forgot about it, and went on with her night. The question …
/r/askTRP24/10/17 12:50 AM
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Because they're adults and it's their job to make their own decisions no matter how crappy you think they are. Yeah, and I'm an adult who has lived longer, knows more about the world, and has more wisdom with which I can use to judge the hell out of them. People don't have fully developed brains until ~28 years. When you're 20, you literally do not have the mental capacity to see decades into the future, so you do not have the mental capacity to fully weigh your options. It's like some idiot tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:35 PM
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Chateau Heartiste's Big List of Scientific Studies Confirming RedPill Concepts.
/r/askTRP22/10/17 02:26 PM
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Men think they know what’s best for a young women. In fairness they share this belief with older women. Let's reframe. Why do 20-something women think they know what's absolutely best for themselves? In the past it was men and religion who decided what was attractive. A bad boy would’ve been condemned by the community and had a difficult time getting past her father. So like minded men essentially rewarded like minded men with the ultimate prize - women’s intimacy. Not really. Everyone back then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 02:17 PM
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It's both. She wants a man that pulls her up, not brings her down, but also a man that is better than most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 02:05 PM
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I'll know it when I see it, so I can't really give you an exact number, but I can give you red flags: If she has never had a monogamous relationship that has lasted over a year then it shows she can't commit. If she's had more than one STD then it shows she doesn't care to protect herself. If she's had more than one abortion then double that she doesn't care to protect herself. If she's cheated then it shows she's impulsive or devious. If she's poly then it shows me she wants to maximize every b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:39 AM
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All we're doing here is trying to create a conceptual map of human interaction, and you're right that there are many factors going in to one's life which determine whether you make it or break it, but some of them are in your control. I look at it like a game of poker. You don't get to choose the cards you're dealt, but you do get to choose to fold, raise and call. You're not playing a single game of poker over you're entire life, but rather you're playing hundreds of games. You can learn all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 12:28 AM
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Right. All our perspectives are selective instances of truth. They are never the whole picture because we can't conceptualize it. This goes back to why we debate. Presented correctly, we can argue versions of the truth and perhaps come to a clearer picture. At least, that is what I think is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:00 PM
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It can mean I'm right. Those experiences can exemplify truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:35 PM
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So long as the right people know what kind of work you're doing then it doesn't matter what kind of tantrum she throws. Don't try to convince her of anything. Don't even speak to her. Just do your job the way you've been doing and make sure upper management knows. Send them an informal weekly report with your progress. If she can't cut it then tough shit. If she blames you, and if you've informed the right people, then it'll just look worse for her.
/r/askTRP14/10/17 02:21 PM
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A debate is supposed to convince people that your position is better than the alternative, which is your opponent. How exactly do you know you're right? How does anyone know they're right? Experience, reason, logic, adherence to certain values and principals, acceptance of certain axioms. We all do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:14 PM
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The point of debating is to convince bystanders and those on the fence. I can try to move my opponent to a new position, but that likely won't happen. What is more likely going to happen is anyone reading the dialogue between me and them is going to be swayed one way or another. Debate is less about truth and more about presentation and persuasion. If you want truth, go science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 12:22 AM
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Sounds like a hell of a lot of projection to me. Nah, no projection on my part, just experience. I've worked in retail and food service. I joined the trades and became an apprentice plumber after moving across the country. I'm a certified water treatment technician in my state. I've worked in construction. Now I'm a manager at a technology company. And that was all after I finished college with my degree in Psychology. So I've seen and done more diverse work than most people ever will, from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:51 AM
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It's profound self-ignorance. Most of TBP haven't lived outside the suburbs, unless it's some newly gentrified "safe but looks dirty" part of their coastal cities. They went to the best high school, then into college, then internship and finally some low-paid job at a yuppie startup, and never during that time have they made relationships with anyone outside their own socioeconomic bubble. They have no idea how people think outside that bubble and just assume that everyone does, or should, think…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:42 PM
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From my Ancestry.com: 31% Italian, 27% Scandinavian, 20% Western European (likely German), 11% Irish, 11% Other I'm like, 5th generation American? My grandma on my mom's side was from Italy. My dad's side goes back about 5 generations of farmers in upstate New York. The Red Pill has helped with gaining confidence so that I'm no longer a beta loser. Now I'm a beta winner. It has helped with my LTR. This spring my girl and I will have been together for 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 12:58 AM
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I do most of the housework, but that's just a matter of expedience. If I'm making dinner and waiting for the chicken to cook then I'm going to unload the dishwasher. I'm standing right there. After making dinner I wipe up any mess because, again, I'm standing right there. If the garbage is full, I just take it out. It's easier and faster if I do this stuff myself. If she doesn't do anything, I'll talk to her about it, but it has rarely come to that. She sees me cleaning and starts cleaning as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:20 AM
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If it ever got to that point, I'd actually look at myself and wonder what I did wrong before I start giving him advice. If he was under my care for that duration then I don't think I'd have any justification to tell him how to live his life. I would have to take responsibility for not setting him up correctly. But if later is better than never, I'd tell him to work out and eat healthy, dress well, and learn to talk to people. All the other finer points can come after learning the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:16 AM
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45% upvote and 0 points does not constitute an endorsement from TRP community. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:09 AM
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I don't believe this is correct. A woman who has borderline personality disorder can be extremely destructive. It's characterized in the psychological literature as "female psychopathy". It's also less likely to be diagnosed and treated compared to men's antisocial personality disorder. And from personal experience, having a mother with anxiety and depression is like a nuke going off for the entire family. These problems are never just localized to the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:34 PM
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Yes there are women who lead men on only to get something out of him. True. They exist. But they are few compared to creepy guys getting oneitis for a girl who gave him just a bit of attention. Those guys claim they were led on but I don't trust their perspective on the matter. Call it Desperation Bias or something like that. They are highly likely to misinterpret her actions and therefore are likely to misinterpret her motives after the fact. What I believe is true, the vast majority of the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:12 AM
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As someone who browses r/niceguys and r/justneckbeardthings way too much, I've never agreed with them being "entitled". I think some girl magazines used that word and it stuck, but I don't think it's truly applicable. These guys are (among many things) desperate. Very, very desperate. They also know they can't compete with people on muscles or social skills (or a lot of times wealth) so they play the niceness angle thinking it gives them an edge. It doesn't. There's a lot of parts to this proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 01:01 AM
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It might not be that you're too nice. It could be you're just high in one of the big 5 personality traits: Agreeableness. The problem with agreeable people is that they do not like conflict. They won't speak up when taken advantage of and they won't challenge lies or disrespect because they believe it's simply easier to take the abuse for the sake of group cohesion. You need to stop doing this. 1: If someone comes at you with a blatant lie or falsehood, don't keep quiet. Say "No, the truth is th…
/r/askTRP23/09/17 03:26 PM
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Because if they were fully transparent then we'd have them fully figured out, which would put them at a critical disadvantage in the mating game. There's an advantage from them to be deceptive.
/r/askTRP21/09/17 01:00 PM
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I think you answered your own question: you need to set some goals and make a schedule. That's basically it. You don't feel happy because your body has nothing to be happy about. Happiness occurs after you've achieved something, and that's neurological basis to the reward system, not just some hokey wisdom. Is your lack of a job and schedule due to health problems? Are you able to get out and do stuff or is there a physical/psychological condition keeping you from doing that?
/r/askTRP21/09/17 12:57 PM
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If what your feeling is a result in a hormone or neurotransmitter problem then the first steps in self-medicating are getting exercise, eating decent meals, and a daily routine. Happiness, neurologically, is in the reward circuit and the reward circuit doesn't activate until you've accomplished something - exercise every day or every other day helps encourage that. Decent meals give your body the materials to create and regulate your hormones, which affect cognition. And because humans are goal-…
/r/askTRP21/09/17 02:34 AM
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She could have gotten pissed initially because all you said was "hi" and she wanted to be approached. Approach her once and if she's not into it consider it a solid next.
/r/askTRP21/09/17 02:25 AM
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I wouldn't call most of those guys feminine. Over half have a huge manjaw. And it's the Hollywood hair that makes them seem more feminine. Mess up their hair and put a visor on them and you'd mistake them for frat bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:11 AM
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Yeah, I definitely feel for people with dysphoria. Typically, the surgical procedure comes after many hours of counseling, just to be sure. I can't imaging resetting my entire life as a new person. New ID cards. New friends. Who knows how your family would take it. It's a massive sacrifice. As for the body parts themselves, they... well... I guess this would be a trigger warning? I could be way behind the medical advances, but last time they taught this in a classroom, the male to female vagina …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:50 AM
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Capitalism and open markets are great at solving coordination problems and making systems vastly more productive. These gains in productivity help everyone, so they are not zero sum. That isn't in dispute. But the gains aren't distributed evenly. If you find a new way to use, say, recycled plastic, then you have taken an unproductive resource and made it productive. You've helped consumers, workers, and yourself by doing so. Everyone wins. But you take the the lion's share of the benefits, rocke…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 12:57 PM
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I gave examples in a reply to BiggerDthanYou.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 12:42 PM
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That all depends on how you define a woman. If you define a woman as someone appearing like a stereotypical woman should appear, then sure anyone can pass as a woman with enough effort. But that definition isn't a scientific, biological or medical classification.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 12:41 PM
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I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything. I have a degree in psychology, and sex and gender was part of that formal education, and I descried the ways that current science categorizes sex, gender, and the development of sexual organs. Do you see anything factually incorrect about what I stated? I said that the way we categorize beings into the binary sex categories can change. Yes it CAN change. Our understanding of anything CAN change, but so what? Unless you can state how our understanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 12:38 PM
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Their point isn't biology doesn't exist, but that what we understand as "sex" isn't as real and concrete as some might believe, but is changing as well. Unless we're developing more and different chromosomes, then no, biology itself isn't changing. Yes, our understanding of biology always changes, because it's a science, but the tumblirites and the writer of the article aren't biologists, so they don't have the authority to claim IF the field of human anatomy is changing or how. They leave it as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:52 PM
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Show a source. http://i.imgur.com/6IAo1YK.png That's your typical tumblr response. "Sex is a social construct." Nope, biological sex is not a social construct. Gender certainly is, but sex is not. That's what these people are trying to conflate. Another below: https://www.autostraddle.com/its-time-for-people-to-stop-using-the-social-construct-of-biological-sex-to-defend-their-transmisogyny-240284/ And here's what the agender community thinks of these misinformed people: http://www.asexuality.org…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:45 PM
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I don't honestly know. I'd like to think it's some kind of profound ignorance rather than malice. Or perhaps because they want to transition to the opposite sex so much that they overlook the inconvenient facts that prevent this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:33 PM
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Yes, they say that there's no such thing as biological sex. They say "a penis isn't male, there's nothing about it that's male. A woman can have a penis, a man can get pregnant." They see gender expression as the ultimate form of identity, even surpassing biological sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:04 PM
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Anyone who says "There's no such thing as biological sex" or people who say "There's nothing about a penis that is male, or there's nothing about a vagina that is female". I've seen plenty of that from r/tumblrinaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:01 PM
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Why do you say he's overblown?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:19 PM
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To a certain degree, yes, but that ideal goes out the window when you meet regular women. You have to sacrifice your fantasy a bit to accept another person. But if you never have to meet real women, you never have to make that concession. People in isolation can get real weird, real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:13 PM
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I see this in the hard core anime nerds creating waifu's out of maids and cat girls. The image they have of the perfect woman is young, cute, demure, eager to please, very agreeable, and domestic. It's basically a caricature of the 1950's housewife blown way out of proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:13 PM
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I can certainly see that happening, but before it does we'll need to have a national conversation about the differences between sex and gender, because even now people who are trans advocates don't admit to the difference. It's one thing to adhere to your gender, be nonbinary, create your own gender, not be any gender, while it's another thing entirely to say there is no such thing as biological sex. Biological sex is important, even just looking at it from a medical standpoint. There are certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:03 PM
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I don't think a male birth control's intent is purely to protect against female deception lol. Yeah that was the wrong choice of words. I don't think any sane person would submit the pill to the FDA as "female deception protection", but it would practically be used as such, not that I think that's a bad thing. I think a birth control pill for men would probably have more benefits than costs, but I had to really dig in my previous post to imagine the costs. I didn't want to sound like a guy who's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:57 PM
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I agree with your first part, that labor was divided because females were the ones to get pregnant and have children, however I don't believe that the division between male and female can simply disappear because of social androgyny. I believe those divisions are deeply rooted in our neurological programming, which has been running for thousands, if not millions of years. I also believe there is a draw for men to seek the feminine, and a draw for women to seek the masculine. The more that those …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:46 PM
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The good for men is that they can 100% (or near 100%) ensure that they don't get a woman pregnant. If a man's wife or girlfriend comes home, says she's pregnant, then he can drop the bombshell that he's on the pill. That same situation can happen, and has happened, with vasectomy's that men have kept secret. It's not good for her, but it means he dodged a bullet. The downside is mostly for women. Imagine a man saying he's on the pill when he's actually not, has sex, then ghosts. You could be stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:35 PM
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If it was safe, and I were single, then I'd probably take it. It would probably offer men in general more protection and peace of mind. But that would also come with social consequences as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:12 PM
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Nope, not necessarily, only that we don't know how this experiment is going to end. There are plenty of negatives in a world where women have no birth control, although something about that world must have worked, because that world brought us to today. And there are plenty of positives in a world with birth control, but there are also some negatives too. I think that if we can keep an eye out for the negatives of birth control, and address them accordingly, then we might be able to have our cak…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:08 PM
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I definitely agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:39 PM
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When you say "offer more", you're referring to relationships, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:31 PM
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in addition people are overestimating the inequality of dating in Western civilizations. I think so too. A few bad dates and people are ready to decry an entire sex. What do you think is the root of the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:27 PM
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"Sexual access for males is a Pareto distributed phenomenon, where a small proportion of males get most of the invitations. The thing that is a bulwark against that is monogamy and part of the reason why societies are set up to be monogamous is so that that proclivity is controlled, because it's not good for children if they don't have access to the father, and it's not good for women if they're all competing for the same men, and then it's not good for men who aren't being chosen because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:18 PM
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He's been critical of capitalism before, specifically detailing the Matthew Effect. That was what changed my mind. The gap between the rich and the poor is a huge issue. Automation is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:59 PM
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Here's a study from 2013 that outlines a lot of these psychological changes caused by birth control pills: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/147470491301100315 Women who use HCs report higher rates of depression, reduced sexual functioning, and higher interest in short-term sexual relationships compared to their naturally-cycling counterparts. Also, HC use may alter women’s ability to attract a mate, as well as the mate retention behaviors in both users and their romantic partners. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:35 PM
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I don't see how it's all women's fault. It seems to me that this is a natural consequence of separating sex from reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:28 PM
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I've listened to most of his lectures in their entirety and they definitely evened me out. Not only from TRP but politically as well. He's a great bridge to bring people to a more moderate position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:27 PM
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I'm married, so I have no horse in this race, but sexual equity usually means social stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:23 PM
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Women like the masculine. Men like the feminine. As society becomes more egalitarian and asexual, women will seek the extreme forms of masculine expression, just as men will seek the extreme forms of feminine expression. 50 Shades of Grey sold more copies than any novel in history, while weeaboos cling to their waifu pillows. This isn't a coincidence by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:35 PM
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Dude, I'd prefer raising the kids, keeping the house clean, and cooking meals compared to the mind numbing data entry I had to do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:37 AM
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Happiness comes from meeting hardship and overcoming it because it's part of the dopamineric system. It's a reward for doing something difficult and worthwhile. You can't have happiness without first earning it and that's not some hokey wisdom - that's how our neurochemistry operates. Happiness is the effect, not the cause. I believe the west is too comfortable to give us any worthwhile challenge. There are certainly other factors like isolation and the paradox of choice. Not to mention paradoxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:34 AM
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Think of hypergamy as one of the big 5 personality traits, then find a woman who is low in hypergamy. They all have it to some degree, but not every woman expresses it with the same intensity. That is what you should be on the lookout for. Your ability to use Game allows you to select women at your own discretion rather than taking what you can get, and this is probably the one aspect of game which will contribute to your success. Yeah, most women out there will probably not meet your standards,…
/r/askTRP15/09/17 12:59 PM
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Aside from my flair, what about my response indicated I was Red Pill? I think that the content of my initial post, and in my response to her, which you should also read, is actually fairly neutral. I get that there's a lot of negativity in TRP. I've personally seen worse elsewhere from r/niceguys, and even worse than that from r/incels. I get that women can be hated to a far more toxic degree than what radfems say about men, because men who truly hate women have embraced their own nihilism. It'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:54 AM
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I think the problem of men's suicide is multidimensional. Telling men to share their feelings is not a panacea, because ultimately if they're uncomfortable with that process then it can do more harm than good. You don't want to help someone psychologically if they're not seeking it, and the mode of therapy is just as important. Many men could benefit from logotherapy instead, which doesn't ask anyone to talk about their feelings, but instead commits the patient to recontextualize existing proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:44 AM
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I figured I'd let this go since ignoring/selecting certain parts of my post let me think you're a toll, but instead I want to take this as a learning opportunity. Please explain why you're defending this woman. I really want to know. Because she said that if she had children, she would have sent them to an orphanage, and if she were carrying children she would have aborted them. All because her husband cheated on her. Now, I don't mind her divorcing him for doing that. I don't even mind her want…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:28 PM
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Men generally recover from problems by meditation and reflection, not socializing. If it works, it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:23 PM
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The problem is your conclusions aren't derived from the studies. You came to a conclusion and used these studies as support, but they're not proving what you want them to prove. So you're being dishonest and not posting in good faith. Older adults often pursue dating relationships to mitigate feelings of loneliness, and this is particularly true for men This study states that women have have wider social circles but it does not say that men don't have fulfilling social circles. Here you're being…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:01 PM
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Fine, all the things you've mentioned above are creepy. Wanting to abort a fetus because the man who made it cheated on you is also creepy, and creepy is putting it lightly, in fact. So you get off YOUR high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:55 AM
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Women in the west aren't having children. Birth rates are as low as they ever have been. Before you say that's a good thing, it's definitely a problem when a mass aging generation tries to retire without young people to keep the economy going. Japan is the country with that demographic problem. Europe is to follow. Please educate yourself on this problem. The standard liberal boilerplate message is simply false, and you won't convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:30 AM
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And the contemporary way will fail if women keep having 2.1 children. So don't count the other side out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 10:25 PM
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I don't like the advice about spinning plates. To me, it's a lot of effort to keep several women at arm's length - never too close, but rarely committing. It becomes a problem of diminishing returns to keep all these quasi-relationships going. I think that, in that situation, you're more likely to overlook a good LTR because your focus is elsewhere, and you might get a reputation that dissuades that LTR.
/r/askTRP11/09/17 02:17 AM
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What part of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:53 AM
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How about you come at me like I'm an actual person and NOT like you're shouting at my flair, because you don't know who I am, what I believe, or what part or parts of TRP I agree with or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:53 AM
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Well, it sounds like there's something we agree on. I guess what I'd say to close this out is that there is a line where you can judge another culture, but obviously that line somewhat differs between us. I guess what I'd recommend to you, at least in regards to the OP's situation and commentary, is to not immediately judge too harshly, because the end result of this cultural experiment is not yet concluded. It could very well be possible that the American ideal of marriage will lose in the face…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:11 AM
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No one here has talked about women needing to be submissive inferior housewives or that men are superior breadwinners. That is your own projection. But in addition to that, you're also speaking for people who you are completely unaffiliated with and do not know. What experience or expertise do you personally have to dictate what other people do elsewhere in the world? So I'm also curious how consistent your stance is. What is your opinion of Islam's treatment of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 12:55 AM
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Here is what Indian women think: That is not how Indian women think. They're not a hive mind and they don't all read or write liberal entertainment clickbait on the internet. And even taken at face value, their 9 reasons why marriage is scary isn't restricted just to India. Commitment anxiety is pretty universal everywhere. Not convinced. Here's why Mexico is changing their traditional marriage vows: Yes, this reflects that their society is changing, which isn't surprising. How does that change …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 12:44 AM
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And yet somehow you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:59 PM
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I haven't seen her post history, but 1: how do we know it was perfectly functioning? and 2: do we have his side of the story?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:46 PM
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Well, "being there" certainly would lend credence to your beliefs and make you a whole lot more persuasive. For example, do you know where the OP is from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:46 PM
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People with Borderline Personality Disorder tend to be impulsive and have black and white thinking. Things are either super amazing omg this is great or you're terrible I hate you!. They are also profoundly afraid of being abandoned, to such a degree that their insecurity most assuredly causes people to abandon them. It's totally reasonable to divorce your ex for cheating. It's less reasonable, but probably forgivable, to want to take him for everything he's got. To suggest removing his hypothet…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:19 PM
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How do you know? Have you ever been there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:11 PM
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That is definitely one of the creepiest things I've seen. This has BPD written all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:06 PM
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Some of the commenters here need to stop being so racist in judging marriages on the other side of the world by the standards of the west. ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:02 PM
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It's all in how you frame it. Saying, "Yeah I've been through some tough relationships but that's all behind me and, honestly, I wouldn't be the person I am today without them." is COMPLETELY different than saying, "I don't know if I can trust people anymore. They always betray you eventually." Both statements can be the result of the exact same situations, but how you frame it and how you let your insecurity affect you, or not affect you, is what makes the difference. We all have our crosses to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:57 AM
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I can see some truth behind what you're saying, but I don't agree entirely. I know nothing about the OP, but if he's a virgin because, let's say, he's a string bean who gets no exercise, has few friends because of some awkward social tic, then having sex via dumpster diving won't solve all of the above. I've had friends in college who lost their virginity by that method and it didn't really improve things. They were still nervous wrecks with plenty of problems.
/r/askTRP04/09/17 03:32 PM
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Dudes fucking hate me. What's the story behind that?
/r/askTRP04/09/17 02:36 AM
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Work out, both for the health benefits and your physique. Make some friends, guy friends, girl friends, nerd friends, jock friends, it just doesn't matter. The more your social circle increases, the greater the chance that someone else in that social circle will be a romantic interest. Make realistic, attainable goals for yourself so you have something to work toward, ones that don't rely on chance. "I'm going to have a girlfriend by the end of the year" is not a good goal. "I am going to run a …
/r/askTRP03/09/17 10:53 PM
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Women have the biology to create and feed infants. Infants can only communicate through pure emotion. If a woman is going to understand what her infant needs, she will also need to understand communication through those emotions. To do that, she needs to have those emotions within her in order to empathize. That is why women are considered "more emotional". If you're saying that men are more emotional because of a single emotion - anger - then you're only looking at one dimension, which is not v…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 12:22 AM
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I'd probably laugh because I couldn't take that seriously, and that's only because our history goes way back. But if I were to put that all aside, for a thought experiment, I probably wouldn't be too beat up over it. Maybe it's my background in psych, but I believe we all settle for something. I don't think relationships are magical, or that they require fireworks. You shack up with someone because all the negative stuff that happens in life is the norm, the baseline, and moments of bliss are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 12:45 AM
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I certainly can't speak for women, since I'm not one, but maybe it's because they don't see transsexual women as biological women. Perhaps that's the one point where they and radfems agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 12:34 AM
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So then, men inevitably must and do benefit most from casual sex. What men? It sounds like you're assuming that "men" are a monolithic entity, like a hive mind. We're not a sports team. We don't share points. Opening the pussy gates doesn't mean that every single man will see a X% increase in how much he personally gets laid. It means that that the top 20% of men will get laid more. It doesn't mean that the bottom 80% will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:29 PM
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Sure I believe it. I've seen it myself. People have prejudices, and some of these prejudices can assume you don't know your own goddamn job, and some of these prejudices think you should get the first spot on the life raft. It always cuts both ways and no sex has all negatives and no positives. Life for each sex is, and always has been, and likely always will be, a mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:21 PM
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Divorce, as soon as you can. Yeah, you might only see your kids on the weekend. Yeah, you will have to pay child support, but it is the better path. She has already lost respect for you, if she has an affair, and you know, and she hasn't stopped it. She will continue losing respect for you the longer you hold out, and soon your kids will lose respect for you. It's just a downward spiral that you cannot fix. You need to get out of there. The divorce might be a total disaster, but you can handle d…
/r/askTRP06/08/17 09:16 PM
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GF told me she couldn't live without me, causing a chill to run up my spine. I know it's supposed to be endearing, and probably not literal, but it's a little unnerving to know that I'm responsible for her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:52 PM
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Many many patriarchal civilsations HAVE died out, some of them spectacularly. And many have not. I'm sure feminists would characterize most of the world as a patriarchy, including our current society. Do you personally believe our society is a Patriarchy or not? And if a patriarchy goes up against a patriarchy and one side wins, is that a point for patriarchy or against? You are using your values of what matters to assess their culture. Yup, I absolutely and unapologetically am. Going to the moo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 07:37 PM
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Most civilsations have been patriarchal. This means that most of the failures of humanity occured in a patriarchal system so it doesn't make sense to say that therefore patriarchy works. Of course I can say they worked. They brought us here. If they didn't work, they would have died out long before they had a chance. The proof is self-evident. Many primitive cultures work on quasi egalitarian systems and it works just fine for them. And yet they are still primitive cultures, even to this day. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 02:37 PM
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It's saying, "feudalism was the norm for humanity across the ages and in most places, so something about feudalism worked, because it brought us here". You can't really argue against that. It's self-evidently true. I'm not saying that feudalism, or even patriarchy, is the end-all-be-all of any political/social system. The system can evolve into something different and better, or it can evolve into something temporary that destroys itself. You don't know because your individual life is short comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 02:25 PM
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There has never been a truly feminist civilization in the past for us to know how it would turn out. Aaaaand, that's not exactly a point in your favor, OP. It's like libertarians saying there has never been a truly libertarian nation, so that's why you need to trust us and implement one. Maybe there is a fundamental flaw to these kinds of ideologies which prevent them from ever being successful in the first place. I take the Darwinian point of view: nature is a constant experiment. Things that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 11:49 PM
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You're a fucking asshole. I have status. It's 2017. You're right, my comment was uncharacteristically mean-spirited, and not necessary to make my point. For the longest time women had no status. This is what I have contention with. You couldn't be there, all throughout history, to know women had no status, so what is your source? BP/Feminist historians will always make the claim that universally women had no status because it's comfortable for their worldview and they have no personal incentive …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:18 PM
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It's not biological, it's social. It's both. It's never just one thing, unless you have proof that it was 100% social. Even female primates go for the males with the highest status in their little primate society. They don't have a "culture", let alone a language, and last I checked we are primates too. So no, I don't believe for a second it's 100% society. You're not going to change my mind on that unless you have some pretty stellar evidence. Not trying to be a dick, I'm just sparing you some …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:52 PM
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It's not about belief; it's a fact. Women date at or above their economic/social level. Men date at or below their economic/social level. Hypergamy isn't about individual traits; it's about one's social position relative to others. My theory is that the reason why RPillers calls women hypergamous, but not men, is because they believe the male role is better than the female role. You need to go back to the drawing board, because hypergamy has nothing to do with one's role. It's all about status. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 12:32 AM
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You can't know what's in someone else's mind. It's a black box. Having a degree in psychology doesn't make me any better at divining that than some average Joe. Only difference is I'm aware it's impossible. Joe will try to take a stab at it anyways. Some RP guys will dive too far into TRP, thinking they're some sort of mind reader because AWALT. They could be right, they could be wrong, but it'll always be could. No one can ever know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:11 PM
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Of course they have the responsibility to disclose. They have the obligation of setting expectations at the start of a relationship and the more you want to hide something the more it's going to come back to bite you. It's no different than someone starting a relationship with you and not telling you they're in another open relationship with someone else. You might be totally okay with that arrangement, or you might not, but that should be established at the very start to avoid drama and avoid w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:02 PM
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I just know I'm going to get grilled for this, but after reading through this thread and the "What's the worst thing women have done?" it doesn't look even in the slightest. The women above have dealt with horrible things like domestic abuse, ghosting, thankfully very little rape, but after reading the men's side of girlfriends lying, cheating, raping them, sending them to prison, it just seems to me that men have the far worse end of the deal. It's not even comparable in my eyes. Yeah, men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 12:17 AM
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People can weather catastrophe pretty well. It's deception that really screws us up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:17 PM
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Sane and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:20 PM
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I think it's silly, but then I think guys who wear skinny jeans and do man-buns are silly. That whole yupster demographic is in a world of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:38 PM
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Haha, this post is the exact opposite of the ones made by the occasional physics major that wander in here: "What scientific evidence is there that TRP is true?" Bitch, you are your own scientist. Get out of the basement and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:51 PM
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It doesn't need to be a conspiracy if you're unsure of your own attraction triggers. Psychologists have done studies on women's sexual arousal when looking at porn and found it is far more versatile than men's. Men will become aroused when looking at straight porn and lesbian porn, but women will become aroused at straight porn, gay porn, lesbian porn, and even chimpanzee mating. Does that mean women are lesbians, or like bestiality? No, and I definitely don't think they'd admit to it. Obviously…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:42 AM
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Are you a woman? Because in your post you have clearly heard from women that they have different preferences than the men here. And even you say that men and women are wired different in your post, so you recognize there are differences. And it's not like you can swap brains with a man or woman to experience those differences for yourself, so it's not like you can claim personal knowledge about how the opposite sex thinks. And it's highly unlikely that men and women perfectly match in their libi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:27 AM
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Can you grow a beard? If so, you might be able to rock the lumberjack look. Some chicks really like that.
/r/askTRP13/07/17 01:58 PM
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I mean, it would be surprising if men and women had absolutely equal sex drives, considering that sex has vastly different consequences for men and women. Men desire sex more because they have the biological ability to get multiple women pregnant at the same time, so of course they're going to have a higher sex drive. Social science research has also borne this out. Gay male couples have the most sex and are more open to open relationships, while lesbians have the least amount of sex. Heterosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:18 PM
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I mean, everything listed in the quote is certainly superior in the eyes of our caveman ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:04 AM
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Just got back from Norway last week. Can confirm that they're hot, though I can't confirm if they're hotter than the Swedes. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:59 AM
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