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They are losers but you’re going to random accounts and making condescending comments... right
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 04:33 PM
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Is there a reason you do this?
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 04:33 PM
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It’s not really a seething post. It’s more of just like this is what happened to me and why I’m thinking it’s not worth the time. I’m not hating on anyone. I’m just discussing reality from my point of view
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 04:32 PM
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Lol why the sarcastic condescending response. If you read my post, I say anything but being a god. That’s sort of the point. But w/e. I guess you get high off of being an anonymous troll
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 04:29 PM
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Thats where this gets complicated. The word incel at least. Its base definition is no sex. I think very few people are at that level. I feel like the common level though is that many men are putting in enormous amount of effort to sleep with people who are below them, technically. By below them I mean this: If we ranked every human in the world and ranked them on attractiveness and then paired each one, most guys are sleeping with women below them, sometimes far below. This is hypergamy. Further…
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 01:34 AM
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I think its psychologically hard to break out of it. Maybe even impossible for most guys. The primal instincts are eat and fuck. We've solved eating. However, sex is being taken away from the average male and there is nothing he can do about it. It is very difficult to comes to term with tbh. Especially since its been the driving force for me for 10+ years. I mean, you turn 13-14, you want to start having sex. You cant help it. But you have society doing everything it can to take down the avg ma…
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 11:09 PM
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Assets yes. But its also an instinctual drive for me. Like I said, some guys can overcome that drive. I dont actually know if Im capable of that. If Im not capable, a foreign wife would be better than no wife at all. Nietzsche talks about creating our own values. Its possible, but only a handful of people can do that and be fulfilled. I currently dont believe Im one of them tbh
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:48 PM
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Yeah, its all very disheartening. These realizations have cause a depression of some sort for me. Like Ive spent the last 10 years living my life a certain way only to come out losing because I believed that the beta provider type would win in the end. I wasnt just kind of wrong. I was completely wrong. And it takes some time to get over. For instance, I studied really hard to get a high paying job with a primary motivation being getting more female attention. Knowing what I know now, I wouldnt …
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:34 PM
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Fully living abroad would allow for avoidance of divorce rape. And yes, you risk divorce everywhere. But culture matters. Asia and eastern Europe still have cultures that have not been overrun by feminism. Im making up numbers here, but lets say divorce probability falls from 70% to 30%. Ill play with 30 percent odds. I wont play with 70 percent
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:30 PM
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Lol I never listened to him when he was on but have heard some of his youtube clips. Very entertaining info. Thats the fear with women with high body counts. They can fake changing for a few years. But if they are a hoe, they will eventually go back to their ways. And your life is literally destroyed. My heart goes out to that guy. Just think of how devastating it is knowing that your entire world is/was a lie. Its devastating
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:20 PM
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Exactly. N count means nothing to me (anymore) because women vary greatly in quality. It came as an epiphany after I had sex with a mildly overweight girl. I was like, "wtf am I doing and why did I just waste my night for this." If I was Mick Jagger or Jordan and had a line of models waiting to have sex with me or enter a relationship with me, Id have a different perspective. But 90%+ of us will never be that type of Alpha. And sex is currently uncontrolled on the west where the only guys who ha…
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:13 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. Though I will say that the US does vary in its degrees of feminism. For example, Ive been to Florida, Georgia and Texas on vacations/trips. Ive lived in dc, NYC, and boston. The northeast has a indoctrinated almost all women. The south was different. Im not saying that its great, but bringing back a woman and living in the south may be feasible (Ive never lived there, so Im just going off vacations and trips). How old are you btw?
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:55 PM
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That is a legitimate option at the moment. Right now Im weighing the options between completely abandoning the sexual marketplace and what you just proposed. Your option will at least keep me motivated to earning money (retiring and having a family in Malaysia/Philippines etc). Like I hinted at in the post, the foreign marriage plan is something thats pretty new in my ideology. Im just being realistic with what is available to me in the US at the moment. For all of the effort Ive put in, the qua…
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:47 PM
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For me its a battle of wills... My will of wanting to sleep with very attractive women vs opportunity cost and self respect. Opportunity cost being that I could do other things with that time and the self respect of not being played by most women
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:37 PM
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This is info is pretty good. As long as your honest about the age right away, I see nothing wrong with it. You're just expanding your field of potential matches and might meet some interesting people
/r/seduction20/05/21 08:43 PM
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I dont know what your thoughts are on mgtow. I debated it internally for about a year and realized it was garbage. As much as we claim "do better for yourself", getting laid and dating hot women is a primal motivation that most of us will never be able to get rid of. I love women. They ultimately were a large part in making me ripped, wealthy, educated and socially skilled. Hypergamy was the cause. I just discovered their behavior and respond accordingly now.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/21 04:14 AM
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Yeah this is not true, even in the US. Yes, you will run into feminists everywhere. But that isnt what matters. Its the rate of feminism that matters. A place like SF, its rampant where 19/20 women are hardcore feminists. A place like Houston Texas or Miami, the rate is more like 1/2 (Id say even less, maybe 1/4 or 1/5) Travel down to South Florida. Miami is the most conservative large city in the country (surprising as youd think itd be one of the texas cities). Its 50% foreign people, mostly f…
/r/MGTOW16/05/21 08:25 PM
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dude, if you are in a relationship and that desperate for friends, meetup, reddit and bumble bff (where you have the option to only see the same sex) exist. Tinder is not ever for friends. This is horseshit and she's attempting to cheat right in front of you. Dump her
/r/MGTOW16/05/21 08:07 PM
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Below average looking women are actually dangerous to be around. They are far and away more likely to metoo you for very trivial reasons. Ive seen this happen multiple times in the workplace. Below avg guy talks to below avg woman in a friendly way. Below avg woman sees this as a chance to get attention, throws out accusation
/r/TheRedPill25/04/21 06:33 PM
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The wall is undefeated my friend. He's just exposing it to the mainstream
/r/TheRedPill24/04/21 04:04 PM
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Yep... had a 2.5 hour segment ripping men for being low value. Main point Ive taken from him: Its not about fair, its about winning. Stop bitching and find a way to win at all costs
/r/TheRedPill24/04/21 04:02 PM
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I can him the black/red pilled Jordan Peterson
/r/TheRedPill24/04/21 03:59 PM
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I hate these being alone posts. The vast majority of people on this sub are loners by nature. We dont need to be alone more. We need male friends/tribes and social interaction. I understand your point, but this type of writing allows 80% of the audience here to justify their shitty social lives with the "Im an alpha lone wolf" persona. Fuck that. You need to socialize and stop playing the "Im an introvert" card. Youre likely not really an introvert. Youre shy and have social anxiety Youre pointi…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/21 12:35 AM
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I only skimmed, but this was oddly a good write up and I saw some parts of myself in the archetypes emerging from this past year and lack of normal social interaction
/r/TheRedPill23/04/21 12:28 AM
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Couldnt agree more. Getting married is one thing that is questionable. But for all other relationships, the mgtow and black pill movement is a major copout mechanism. We all naturally want to get laid. If youre straight, you want to fuck women. If youre gay, you want to fuck guys. If youre bi, you just want to fuck. Everyone wants to fuck. It is as natural as wanting to eat food. These guys need to look at themselves and see what is wrong with them. I am not a good looking guy, but years ago I m…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 04:37 PM
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Effectively what Rollo and his Rolloists indulge in is reactionary fetishism. Sexual Relationship are downstream of economics. If you want to understand the sexual climate you have to understand what's happening to the middle class. Unfortunately for Rollo economics are far above his paygrade which is why he has to make up bullshit explainations for something he ultimately can not understand Could you elaborate on this. Ive never tied sexual relationships to economic success. Unless you are maki…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 04:18 PM
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Couldnt agree more with your first paragraph. I hate this idea that when people say successful they almost always mean "high income earner at mega corp". Ive worked in these places for years. I would deem almost all of my co-workers as unsuccessful in the sense that I never once aspired to be like them. They are as blue pilled as they come. Hyper feminists, bossy "educated" wife types, major blue pills. Ive aspired to be like my dad, former sports coaches, some popular military figures etc, but …
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 04:14 PM
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These guys exist because sex is THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM of male existence. Rollo never says to avoid women. He solely states "There are good ones and bad ones, but there is no one". Its his fundamental premise. The MGTOW group that denies women does so for two reasons primarily. One, theyve been divorce raped. Two, they are closet incels. Divorced rape is understandable. Closet incel is major league cope. Many MGTOW guys are just copouts who cant get laid. These guys are coping by lying to thems…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/21 04:07 PM
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I disagree. Just based on physical attractiveness, there are many that can stay attractive up until theyre 40 ish. Not a lot, but there are definitely some. If they have no kids and they aren't obese (which sadly almost half of women are in the US, so its a small population) and they regularly workout and arent getting wasted 3+ times a week, they can remain somewhat attractive. With that being said, they are definitely past their peak. I would still sleep with them (which I have) but I would ne…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 05:35 PM
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I think a lot of us became redpilled (including myself) after realizing the first girl you loved was not the unicorn you made her out to be. Thats why I think MGTOW is an awful idea/cope for young men. They claim that they want nothing to do with women and are virgins. Young bros, stop with the coping bullshit and being "more informed" than your peers who are getting laid. You naturally want women all the time if youre straight. It takes getting punched in the mouth hard to truly become redpille…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 04:32 PM
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If you arent getting laid easily it feels like youre starving. Its a primal need second only to food and water for men. We dont have red pill subs about eating because humans have developed the technology to have ample calories for everyone. Women dont talk have subs about sex because they are getting fucked with ease. Chads dont come on here because they are the ones fucking (generally). If you had to be a top 20 percent-er to eat, food subreddits would be everywhere and it would be the only th…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 01:02 AM
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Yeah its something I feel deep in my gut. I feel like it will be impossible for me to ever love a woman over the age of 25, maybe 30 if she was on the prudier side (rare but exists) and really kept herself in shape and healthy. The reason being that, like you said, it is insulting. When you had it all you wouldnt look at me. Now youve declined and Ive inclined and now youre giving me attention? Ill pass. As a great youtuber once said, "If you cant have her in her prime, do not take her in her de…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 12:51 AM
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I think men arent proposing due to the realization of why they start getting success when theyre older. Some men at least. I used to work at a big tech company. A lot of super-betas (bottom 30 percent if you dont take into account income) would get literally no action until they were 30 plus years old and take the first woman who would sleep with them off of bumble. These guys are getting married The mid tier guys (40-80 percent) are saying no to marriage because they realize what is happening. …
/r/TheRedPill11/04/21 08:56 PM
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Couldnt you give longer responses and be jacked and have good pictures? I dont think the overarching theme of the red pill is to give one word answers. It is to be the best person you can possibly be (Ie jacked, high value, fun to be around, doing what you want, making money, etc)
/r/TheRedPill23/03/21 03:37 AM
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Agree here. "Positive reactions" mean shit. Its equivalent to getting a girls number at a bar. Are you collecting numbers or getting laid/a girlfriend/accomplishing the task at hand. I follow red pill advice. Im jacked, post shirtless six pack beach ab pictures, short bio showing that I make decent money without saying it, etc. This approach "works" in the sense that I can somewhat consistently go out with 5-7s and go out with the occasional 9+ w/ 10k plus insta followers The approach of regular…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/21 03:29 AM
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Dating apps are useful, but not the be all and end all. As has been stated forever on here, you will always do better if you approach in real life. With that being said, realize all dating apps are not run by match group. If this actually gets instituted, eastern European and Asian dating apps such as Badoo, which has more users worldwide and was founded and launched in Russia by Russians, will easily overtake its place in the US. If apps like coffeMeetsBagel and Bumble want to overtake tinder i…
/r/TheRedPill19/03/21 01:45 AM
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Late age is only about 20 percent of people (50-60 years old... ie peak earnings for most people)
/r/TheRedPill11/03/21 02:56 PM
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Most people dont make 6 figures, and if they do, its generally in high income areas. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/ A 30 year old making 6 figures plus is in the 92nd percentile of his age group However, income is irrelevant in todays world unless you are making millions of dollars a year. A Guy making 70k a year will not get substantially less vagina solely based on income than a guy making 150k a year. Ive worked at big tech companies full of wealthy young people, and m…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/21 02:54 PM
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lol 6 figures will not get you a girlfriend/ample vagina. Its an absolute beta male myth. I know because I used to work at a big tech company where everyone made 150k plus a year and no one was getting laid like a king. Multi millionaire business owner? Yes, thats alpha. Middle manager making 130k a year at a fortune 500 is the epitome of a beta male. You need to realize that there are multiple dominance hierarchies. Being in shape is one. Being musically talented is one. Being wealthy is one. B…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/21 02:49 PM
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As much as this sub hates Jordan Peterson, this is JPs approach to living a better life almost to a tee
/r/TheRedPill30/01/21 02:43 AM
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Used to do this all the time. It used to work wonders. Like 10x better than any other strategy Ive used. However, all of the apps ban this behavior now. You get a few chicks to report you and your number/apple account is forever banned and or forced to always verify pictures of yourself. It pisses me off how anti male these apps have become. This doesnt just work good for the switch out, but the number of matches I get is about 7-10 times higher than normal after the switch due to the boosted el…
/r/seduction26/05/20 05:39 PM
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I feel the same way as you. I myself am not a red pill ideologue. I think there are some very good main theories with the red pill (work to be your optimal self, lift weights, dont be afraid to talk to women, dont put women on a pedestal, etc) but I disagree with things like one commenter had on this post(Ie "Just try to increase the n-count") and other things like trying to have sex with as many women as possible (different than abundance mentality) for the sake of trying to have sex with as ma…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/20 02:56 AM
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Yeah, I agree with this. For solely hooking up with women and not caring how attractive they are, online is better (from current objective results). But I think in Person, while the results arent there yet, has a much higher upside
/r/TheRedPill25/01/20 04:43 AM
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I think social circle is vastly underrated. It is a multiplier in all facets of life. My main point being that the crutch of online dating allows you to make excuses about a shitty social life. You dont even have to date within it. But you have legitimate friends you can talk about to other human beings, do fun shit with, and have social proof when talking to women.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/20 08:46 PM
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Did you read any of it? I never once said online dating was good or bad and literally had a paragraph stating my pics are not great. You've seemed to miss the entire point of the post
/r/TheRedPill20/01/20 04:59 PM
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This is what I’m coming to the conclusion of. I would personally be ok with apps if I could just use it as a supplement. But it turned into my primary form of dating. I get a decent amount of dates from it. Just not really attractive women. Generally 6s. Enough to pop a woody, but that’s it. Nothing to write home about. My main issue is that it has surprisingly effected the rest of my social life. So I’ll be quitting them for some time
/r/TheRedPill20/01/20 02:46 PM
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This post was purely to invoke a discussion on the above topics. I should’ve been more clear in the post that this was primarily about my social circle taking a hit from what I believe was easy access to women on apps and lowering my motivation to do other things. Wanted to know if others saw similar problems. Could just be me
/r/TheRedPill20/01/20 02:42 PM
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Good critique. You bring up some good points. Another hole in my theory. When writing this I did consider that on an absolute scale, there are more women, and therefore, in theory, more potential dates for the type of guy who is willing to game consistently. You are coming from a social circle perspective, where, in theory, there are more potential social circles and social niches where guys could climb some subculture's hierarchy and enter the top 20 percent within that relative social sphere. …
/r/TheRedPill09/01/20 04:36 AM
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Please read my other comment. You are making the false claim that you cannot work on yourself and be in a less competitive (and thus have more success right now) at the same time. My previous comment is below: If you somehow max out your potential in some midwestSouthernCollegeTown, then sure, move to a coastal megaCity. But for most of us, our goals arent to sleep with hundreds of 9s and 10s. Its just not feasible for most of us. Yeah, a lot of them live in LA. So what? You arent touching any o…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/20 05:30 AM
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k bro. Go crawl back into the hole. You are a loser
/r/TheRedPill04/01/20 05:12 PM
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Cool bro. You continue to make straw man arguments. I do not care how good you think my game is. I dont care if I have better game than you or not. If Im getting more results, Im doing better than you. And most of us dont care if we are more alpha than some random incel like yourself on the internet. Your goal may be to "learn game". But my goals are different than yours, like most people on this sub. If Im hooking up with 20 girls a year in a lesser city, while youre hooking up with 10, Im doin…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/20 04:38 PM
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You've completely misread (or do not understand) my post. They WERE benchwarmers in college who would have never played in the NFL unless they transferred to less competitive colleges. They were unpaid and unknowns in college until they transferred to lesser schools. Because they transferred, they will now be millionaires
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 08:54 PM
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Everyone's situation is different. But are you actually making more is the real question? Lets assume you make 150k a year in NYC. AVG rent is 3k per year. That comes out to 36k a year. Your post tax income is 98k. After rent, its 62k. Renting is just losing money. You are making someone else rich. Lets assume that you can take a lesser paying job in Arlington, Texas. Lets say you only make 2/3 of your former salary. 100k. Lets also say that, because it is cheaper, you can afford to buy a small …
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 06:16 PM
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Yes. But you are making a false claim that Im saying its impossible to work on yourself. These are two separate arguments. You seem to not be able to wrap your head around that. The end goal for a lot of men here is to become "better". Whatever better is, they define. Why do they want to become better? In part for the rewards of it. Dating attractive women. Having a nice place to live. Having high spending power. So why not just move and get that all now and, wait for it, WHILE YOU STILL WORK ON…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 06:02 PM
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If his skills arent up to par, yes. You cant make giant leaps in skill development in anything. Most gains are incremental. You dont become a UFC champ by starting in the UFC. You wrestle in high school. You wrestle in college. You start training mma. You do amateur fights and win. You fight in lesser professional fights. You then get on the undercard in the UFC. And work your way up. None of these are self deceiving. The end goal is to live your most optimal life. Its easier to achieve that in …
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 04:41 PM
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If you somehow max out your potential in some midwestSouthernCollegeTown, then sure, move to a coastal megaCity. But for most of us, our goals arent to sleep with hundreds of 9s and 10s. Its just not feasible for most of us. Yeah, a lot of them live in LA. So what? You arent touching any of that now. You can go to a less competitive city, still work on yourself (there seems to be an odd misconception here that you magically cant work on yourself if you arent in the most cutthroat environment pos…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 03:15 PM
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I never said to stop striving to be better. Ive made plenty of analogies throughout this post on how people have become more successful when changing to an environment that had slightly less competition (because it allows them to be able to rise to the top faster). Speed to rising to the top matters. We only live 100 years if we are lucky. If you are spending 30 years "working on yourself" to reach the top 20% rather than 10 years to reach that same top 20%, well, you just wasted 20 years. And a…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 03:05 PM
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This is probably the best critique of my theory. The more I think about it, the more I realize that these cities have large populations of woke beta males. At the same time, they also have large populations of alphas. My assumption was that the top 20% of a hierarchy dominates a given population. But that could be off. It may just be the top 5%. Anyhow, this is a good critique
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 02:43 AM
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True... Chicago is borderline. But I consider it lesser than NYC, San Fran, DC, Boston areas. Chicago is a top tier midwest city, but its still midwest. I lived there for a short time and felt the vibe to be different than other coastal cities Ive lived in
/r/TheRedPill03/01/20 02:39 AM
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Do you have experience with this? While its sounds appealing, I feel like this would be difficult to pull off in practice
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:39 PM
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Do you have experience in the south? And on the coasts? What were the major differences?
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:36 PM
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I work in tech where this is absolutely the case. But I feel like Sales guys, Lawyers, doctors etc would have a fair amount of Alphas. Like 25-35%. What industry do you work in? and live?
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:33 PM
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I believe most non coastal cities. Cities in Texas, Chicago, Phoenix, Tampa, Orlando, large Midwestern cities and college towns
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:32 PM
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I think you missed the first paragraph. Ive lived in more big cities than most guys on this thread. Like 3/5 largest in the US
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:30 PM
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To a point. We tend to forget that a fairly large percentage of high earners are pretty Alpha guys. They arent mutually exclusive categories. The high income could be a side effect of him being an Alpha. With that being said, there are absolutely a large amount of betas who are high earners who are getting beta buxxed, as you pointed out
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:29 PM
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I think you are missing the point of the argument. Im not saying Bumfuck Arkansas. I am saying move to college town USA. Move to Madison or Ann Arbor or Nashville or Raleigh. Move to a non coastal city where its easier to stand out. You might be really attractive and are having an easy time. Most guys arent. Theyd be better off in college town than NYC or San Fransisco. You do bring up a great point though. Which is a hole in my theory. From an absolute standpoint, yes, mega coastal city is bett…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:23 PM
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I dont know. This is the basis of my theory. The bay area has similar salaries to where I currently live. Cool, you make 220k a year. The average engineer in that area makes 170k. You are not in the top 20 percent. Lets assume you moved to Salt Lake city, or Las Vegas, for the sake of argument. Lets assume you take a massive pay cut as well. For arguments sake, you go down to 120k. Well, you just moved up the relative dominance hierarchy. Way Up. You are making more than twice as much as the ave…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:15 PM
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By your own analysis, why would Nashville, which is a low col, southern, midwest city, be a bad choice? Relative income would be higher than average. Avg guys can have their choice of women. Purchasing power is higher on a relative scale. Has many amenities of a major city. Where is the downside? I, and most guys, do not want to put in loads of effort for short term flings all the time. It is time consuming and we would rather be doing other things. I did this in my area for a little bit, but I …
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 10:06 PM
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Elaborate on this. Id like to hear more and am unsure what exactly you are referring to
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 05:26 PM
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Curious to know, where do you live?
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 04:31 PM
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What is he long term effect though? I actually work in one of these "prestigious" financial companies that only recruit from a defined set of schools. The turnover rate of the avg employee from the college hire program is 2.5 years (varies by class). Most people dislike the work and do something else. Starting salary differs from mid and end career salary. And there are only a handful of companies that do this. You can work at a less prestigious place and still make good money.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 05:55 AM
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This is just a theory. Mainly from reading and some short lived experiences Ive had in tier two cities. It could be entirely inaccurate. I posted it so it could be critiqued by people who have actually lived in both. Ive primarily lived in t1 cities but have been looking into southern and midwest cities for a general quality of life increase. Dallas, Nashville, Phoenix, Houston, Raleigh etc are cheaper cities, but overall still relatively high quality in terms of everything else (on paper)
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 05:51 AM
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This post was primarily focused on dating, but I feel like it encapsulates many other facets of life. Say you live in NYC. You likely arent buying a house when you are young. However, lets say you live in Omaha Nebraska. You could buy a house. Rather than throwing away 30k a year in rent in NYC on a 120k salary, for sake of argument, you'd have an asset that will likely appreciate. That asset wont be worth as much as a New York condo, but its still money in your pocket. Or Jobs. I work in the te…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 05:13 AM
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There is an entire book written by Malcolm gladwell about this topic. Do you think people who went to harvard always have better outcomes than people who go to a state school? It turns out that its not even close. If you get into harvard, you shouldn't go. You should go to a state school where you will dominate that academic setting. At harvard, you're just an average joe. At a state school, you're the genius, elite student. Turns out the state school guys who got into harvard but chose to go to…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 04:42 AM
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I agree with some of your points. But there are times in life where you need to look at your dominance hierarchy and say, you know what, for whatever reason, this isnt going to work. I think a good example of this is college football. You have a ton of 5 star recruits who go to Ohio State, Bama, and UGA. A lot of these players dont see playing time. So they transfer. 3 of the 4 quarterbacks who made the Playoff this year WERE BACKUPS in another dominance hierarchy. They evaluated their situation…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 04:37 AM
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I think it matters though. I go to other cities for my job sometimes and my results on the apps and going out are drastically different. You need to be able to stand out. Id legitimately like to hear your thoughts on this and why this is potentially inaccurate. I understand the argument of pure numbers. But assume we take that out of the equation, I feel like most things are better in cheaper and or smaller cities
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 03:19 AM
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Top reason: You believe collecting phone numbers is an accomplishment. The number is only a means to continue your awesome hangout or have a potentially awesome hangout
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:35 AM
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Yes, I agree. But My point was more of it wont solve the answer to living your most optimal life. With that being said, it is generally an indicator that things are going "better" for you when you are getting laid more
/r/seduction23/11/19 02:07 PM
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Theoretically you could. Some men can pull this off. But I agree with OP for a lot of men here. Getting 6's on the apps reduces my instinct drastically to go out and meet 7s,8s and 9s
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 06:37 PM
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Ive had a similar experience. Not that I ever get 10s on tinder, but I get what you're saying
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 06:32 PM
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It is only a temporary drop and does not have long term effects like sleep, diet, and exercise/body composition
/r/seduction09/11/19 01:45 PM
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What you just wrote has a lot of merit. But where you and I differ is with what to do with "the chase". From all Ive read and experienced, positive emotion comes from having your optimal "chase". The optimal chase would be some goal that you really value that takes effort and competence developed over time to reach. Acceptance could be a possibility, but for me, it borders on a nihilistic existence. And that causes me to become depressed. Edit: This was truly a great post. I think part of the re…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/19 02:04 AM
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True to an extent. At times when my life is great socially, I tend to not use reddit at all. When it hits road blocks, I go to reddit. I assume a lot of people are like me where they will go to using reddit for a month, then not using for 3-9 months, and repeat the cycle
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 02:05 PM
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I highly doubt most are incel. By definition, if you have sex, you are not an incel
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 01:52 PM
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When you have the realization that she will be getting piped by some random dude shortly after the break up, you will not care. Was in a relationship for 3 years. After the breakup, was somewhat upset. Found out that she hooked up with some random guy within a month. Literally did not care and laughed when she called me months later asking to get back together
/r/askTRP08/11/19 01:46 PM
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Peacocking is essentially telling everyone that you are at the top of some dominance hierarchy. Like OP said, depending on who you are and how you look will determine your optimal peacocking strategy. I’m a pretty jacked guy, so I peacock by wearing things that really show off my muscles. Tight t shirts, tanks etc. This would not work if I was thin or fat. The main point is don’t look like everyone else
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 12:09 AM
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I would avoid apps then or try to get incredibly high quality pictures. Apps do not work for 80% of guys out there. You will have more success in real life. Become a very active member of whatever religious group you are in and befriend everyone. Expand the social circle and youll be likely to have more success. This includes guys as well
/r/seduction07/11/19 03:39 AM
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If you want a relationship I have suggestions. 1. Dont go to nightclubs looking for one. 2. Church girls are your best bet for finding one 3. You have crap luck on dating apps because you dont stand out in any positive way. You need to portray that you are at the top of some dominance hierarchy on the app. It is 100% solely about your pics. Your profile will help, and text game matters after a match, but without great pics, you dont stand a chance. Do you have great facial aesthetics? Are you ja…
/r/seduction07/11/19 03:33 AM
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You seem to be implying a relationship (someone to join me through the ride called Life) vs just getting laid. There is a major difference and it was one of the main points of my posts. Very Strong relationships with other humans beats a lot of random hookups
/r/seduction07/11/19 03:19 AM
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If your life begins to revolve around pick up and meeting women like mine did, you will begin to have problems or it will at least expose holes that you have in your life
/r/seduction06/11/19 02:49 AM
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I think this is common knowledge from a psychological perspective. Most psychologists would say the same thing. It happened to be in a JP video because, ya know, he is a psychologist. There isn’t really anything tradcuck in here at all
/r/TheRedPill05/11/19 11:41 PM
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Depends on the hobby. CrossFit/gym has a lot of alphas. Any martial arts gym will also have alphas. Church will have a handful of alphas, but a small enough amount that you’ll stand out
/r/TheRedPill05/11/19 10:44 PM
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Assuming that you are working regular 9-5 hours (or something like it like 7-3/10-6), view your day like it is starting at 5pm. I did that initially but fell off when I started doing additional schooling plus a full time job. Im getting back into it hough. Realize if you dont put yourself in situations to meet people (constant unplanned contact with the same group of people), it will be tough to make friends/cultivate a social circle. BJJ, Lifting/crossFit (crossFit is the best form of exercise …
/r/TheRedPill05/11/19 12:56 PM
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I covered this in my goal pursuit emotion statement which I consider to be equivalent to the process of fulfillment
/r/TheRedPill04/11/19 02:45 AM
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Fulfillment/happiness/meaning.... I should have been clearer in that getting laid all of the time does not equate to long term positive emotion and meaning. I agree that happiness is a frail thing. But I meant more along the lines of the opposite of depressed and meaninglessness
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:42 AM
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I agree. Sure you'll have the rare guy who can succeed as a loner. But he is 1/100. 1/1000 maybe. Maybe even less than that. The rest of us need a tribe
/r/TheRedPill04/11/19 02:20 AM
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This is also true
/r/seduction04/11/19 02:16 AM
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Im not saying you should not strive to be better with women and get better at game. My point was that there are multiple facets of life. All of them (or most of them) need to be in order for fulfillment/happiness
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:33 AM
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How long? Whats the cause?
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:04 AM
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Because +90% posts here are about how to achieve this for happiness
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:04 AM
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I think my situation has unique properties to due to the fact that I came from a semi BFE to major metro areas. If you are in BFE, you are likely there because you grew up there. Some jobs will take you there, but most jobs that you move for, for most industries, take you to metro areas. If you never moved before, you are likely to have a larger social circle of family and friends from childhood. The lacking part of your life would likely fall into the intimate relationship category. And thus, y…
/r/seduction04/11/19 01:03 AM
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Yep, this same type of realization hit me hard the other day. I would justify it sometimes as them being boring or us just not having a lot in common. But upon deep introspection, I don't really have a "life" or a great group of friends around at the moment. Life involves work, school, lift/run, go out to bar, repeat. Not much of a life if you ask me. And within those activities, I have no deep connections with other men. It sounds gay, but straight men need deep connections with other guys
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:53 AM
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A couple things to get you started. 1. Are you lifting weights or doing any form of exercise? 2. Do you eat healthy? 3. Do you have a job and or go to school? What forms of discipline and structure do you have in your day to day life? 4. Do you have any interests at all? If you have none, pick random things and try them. If you dont like it, you know not to try it again in the future and it will guide you towards things you do like. If you do like it, you have now found an interest/hobby
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:39 AM
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https://www.help.tinder.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005626726-How-do-I-request-a-copy-of-my-personal-data-
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:35 AM
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The corporate politics at some large companies drives me insane. Ive seriously considered moving down south to a cheap city so I can take a pay cut and have a better company culture and maybe work in an area that actually interests me. Ive saved up a shit ton of money preparing for the inevitable quit. Unfortunately,all of my family and friends are in the northeast. But Texas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee... all look like great places to live
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:31 AM
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Agreed
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:26 AM
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Absolutely, thats why you should focus on multiple facets of your life rather than just one
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:26 AM
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True. I will say this though. I have moved around a lot and Im in an industry where people move around a lot. The more deep friendships you have, the more hits you can take when friendships go away. Lets say you just have 2 best friends. Its great while they are there, but if they have to move for some reason or one of them gets married, you are now fucked. Im naturally a guy who prefers deep friendships. Developing deep friendships with a few guys and then having them move away has happened mul…
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:25 AM
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Large and/or deep relationships are necessary. James Bond is not real life. 99% of us need others to thrive
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:19 AM
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lol
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:18 AM
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Lol man I just read a post of yours about the size of companies and money. Accurate AF. Making 6 figures right out of school at a fortune 500, 50k+ employees, "Tech" company. I contemplate quitting every few months. I have the golden handcuffs and student loans that are keeping me there for the time being. What industry do you work in?
/r/seduction04/11/19 12:10 AM
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I agree. Just wanted to make the post because many people get lost in thinking that TRP is borderline PUA. I got stuck in that trap. On the hierarchy of needs, intimate relationships are very high. It can drive you insane if you aren't getting any. I couldn't get laid/get a girlfriend for years and it really bothered me. I know there are a ton of guys out there who feel the same way. The mentality is all I need to do is figure this out, then Ill be happy. Its why many people come to the red pill…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 11:06 PM
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False: A homeless guy who was divorced raped with diabetes would generally be less happy than a guy who is making six figures with a great social life and women. Sure, the extremely, extremely rare man could be happy as the described homeless man. But most of us here are not that man
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 10:54 PM
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We'll agree to disagree on this one. My job and school already requires a lot of non social time. Outside of work and school, I need it
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 10:30 PM
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Im not trying to be a dick, but this is by no means an optimal situation. It is Highly Unstable. If this is your situation I suggest you fix it fast. Where is your income? What the hell do you do all day? Sure, you can be fine for a month or two, but you need to do something or it will crash quickly. This will easily throw off your circadian rhythms. Youll be bored and masturbate/play video games all day. Where is the social output? Like just talking to people? What are you doing to at least try…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 10:28 PM
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I feel like people who say that either A. Are lying to themselves or B. have a personalty capable of doing that. Part of the red pill is being brutally honest with yourself. In a brutally honest assessment of my self, I am always happier when I have a great group of guy friends then when I am alone or have just a handful of friends
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 10:06 PM
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Those are very bad problems if you have three of them. Would you say an unemployed guy with no education, no friends, and no girlfriend would be doing well? Or an unemployed guy who has diabetes due to lack of exercise and overeating, and no friends is doing great in life? That sounds like an awful life. He would need to fix those things
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 10:02 PM
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Yeah I essentially agree with what you said, but was just elaborating on it
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 09:54 PM
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Success and fulfillment/happiness are not the same thing. Im currently paid in the top 1% for my age bracket and industry, am pretty ripped, and am pretty educated and intelligent. By normal definitions, this is "success". However, for me to be truly fulfilled and have my life in order, one of my needs is to have a group of guys who I have brotherhood like bonds with. There in lies the difference
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 09:52 PM
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This is true to an extent. You can still have all your other phases of life in order but be lacking "game". But "game" is much much easier and more fulfilling if you solve your other problems
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 09:48 PM
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I noticed the same thing. Im currently dating a girl who has one of the most extensive social lives I have ever seen. She is basically an Alpha female in the sense of social abundance. It bothers me because it is a constant reminder of my lack of social life at the moment. And looking back on my life its kind of funny how things came full circle. I had a lot of Alpha male type friends in college and high school. It bothered me that they always got laid and could easily get girls whenever they wa…
/r/seduction03/11/19 09:46 PM
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I would start with the above list of 5 and ensuring that is in order. If all of those are crossed off, then that means you have a somewhat stable life. You can still be unhappy. But those are fundamental problems that need to be addressed. Are the above 5 things taken care of? If you are still unhappy, I would suggest diet, exercise, medication, a better job, trying new things (IE Jiu Jitsu, Weightlifting, Church, school, literally anything). The other fundamental thing is that you need goals th…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 09:38 PM
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Yep. Now, is it an important problem to solve? I think so. Its sort of like being hungry to a lesser degree. But once you have a constant food supply, you realize that eating all the time is not the thing that will make you happy. Until you have that food supply, you are blinded by starvation
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 08:34 PM
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ceereality Haha You seem butthurt too. Sorry for stomping on your dreams of traveling. So in your two week trip to Budapest and Barcelona you really get to experience living as a local(lifestyle)? You and I both know thats bullshit. You're a fucking tourist there. And like I said in a prior comment, I could care less for sight seeing/architecture in cities. If you're a history buff, all the power to you to go view these things. However, most people are not history buffs. Not worth thousands of d…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/19 12:23 PM
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That is not the people who are obsessed with traveling. The girls and blue pills we are referring to are primarily middle to upper class Americans and Europeans. They do not live in shitty third world countries. They live in the wealthy cities that I live(d) in
/r/TheRedPill28/07/19 04:04 PM
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As awful as some countries in the Middle East are, they are much more red pilled on females and relationships and will continue to outproduce the west because of it
/r/TheRedPill28/07/19 01:01 PM
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Commitment is probably the most satisfying “thing” you can have in life. Now, this doesn’t have to just be marriage and is best when you’re valued in the commitment. For example, my strongest bonds with other men in life have come from playing sports. High school football and college rugby. I legitimately have not been able to find stronger bonds with other men throughout my life. And I’ve tried a lot, but nothing has come close. I hear the military can be the same way, but it’s not something I …
/r/TheRedPill28/07/19 12:57 PM
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Good job on the weight loss man
/r/TheRedPill28/07/19 12:50 PM
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Entitled females my friend
/r/askTRP28/07/19 12:43 PM
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Tyrone seems to be butthurt by my comment because he likes traveling. Good for you man. Go do whatever the fuck you want to do. I never said you couldn’t do it. I just stated that most people do it to flex on other people, not because they actually like traveling. It’s the modern day keeping up with the Jones’s. I’d love to know how you experience the different cultures? By eating their food (I can eat plenty of different types of food in NYC, Chicago, Houston and DC). Sight seeing? Not into it …
/r/TheRedPill26/07/19 09:31 PM
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If you have social anxiety and your symptoms are primarily physical (ie shaky voice, sweating, rapid heart beat,etc) go to the doctor and get beta blockers. They were a life altering drug for me. I use it primarily for public speaking (20-40 mg... prescribed to use up to 100mg per speech if needed). However, many people use it for daily use (10-20 mg a day). I’ve been considering using it for daily use just because it makes me so relaxed when I take it for speeches and relaxed in all social situ…
/r/askTRP26/07/19 03:37 PM
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This is exactly why they travel. There is a reason travel is a new obsession by women and blue piled men. Don’t get me wrong, vacations are nice sometimes. But what do you actually do when traveling? You eat food, drink, maybe sight see. You can do this shit anywhere. If you’re into the outdoors, I get it. You need to trace to national parks. But cities, they’re fundamentally all the same. I’ve lived in 4 major US cities. They are basically all the same. The reason women are obsessed with travel…
/r/TheRedPill26/07/19 12:47 PM
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I don’t think their passion is travel. It’s a guise. In reality, their passion is to be more “dominant” (for lack of a better term) on Instagram, competing against other women. What is the essence of this dominance? Dating high valued men (whether or not they actually like them) and taking pictures in exotic places. Seriously, go on vacation with a group of women. It turns into a photo shoot, where the vacation itself becomes a second class citizen
/r/TheRedPill26/07/19 12:43 PM
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Living entirely for yourself isnt a bit nihilistic?
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 02:23 AM
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To a point: my conclusions so far. Purely just understanding TRP is the least nihilistic. PUA is nihilistic in the sense that it is just about hedonism. MGTOW is in the sense of you need something valuable to do with your time now that blue pill goals are off the table
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 01:11 AM
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Bill burr said it best: “Women are just constantly patting themselves on the back about how difficult their lives are and no one corrects 'em cause they wanna fuck 'em” This lady realized all the privileges she lost when no one wanted to fuck her anymore
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 01:06 AM
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I wouldn’t consider myself the avg techie. Dont get me wrong, programming is alright. But I have to care about the problem I am solving. Tech by itself is absolutely not a passion. I’m a pretty athletic guy. Like low level d-1 athlete athletic. But I chose computer science because I was good at it and I knew I could make a lot of money quickly
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:53 AM
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Good post
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:48 AM
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It’s a genuine question. My idea of a meaningful life for a while was providing for a wife and kids. And I think that was meaningful for most people for some time. But I agree with MGTOW in the sense that the current culture is so against men that having a wife and kids is no longer a sensible option. So what do you do with your time? I make a lot of money. But I don’t really like my job. And I’m not sure what job I would love, though I have a handful of other jobs that I’m pretty sure I’d at le…
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:31 AM
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I consider it less risky than a workplace hookup. Most of these women are basically random strangers when I meet them
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 11:36 PM
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To a point. You at least need to go out and do things. Let’s say you’re in a shit situation where you have nothing going on for you and your only free time is Friday and Saturday nights. In that case I think going to a club or bar and socializing is way better for you than sitting alone inside. I’ve gone out plenty of times when I was feeling “down” and only had 1 bad experience. All the other times I was happy I went out
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:35 PM
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Are you legitimately autistic? Like actually diagnosed by a doctor? Or just saying it as a way to indicate you lack social skills?
/r/askTRP22/07/19 12:17 PM
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Good post
/r/seduction22/07/19 12:15 PM
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Agreed, this is difficult for a new guy to pull off. But for a guy more advanced, this is solid advice. For new guys, beginners, and some intermediates, just focus on talking to a large quantity of women rather than using this method to pull high valued targets
/r/TheRedPill21/07/19 10:16 PM
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This advice as a whole is fucking gold. I’ll add some summarizing details on to it. What the OP is doing is creating a narrative in the girls mind. Narrative is vital to being successful. What story is she going to tell her friends about you? By doing what he says, you’re essentially letting HER create the narrative. You are giving general points, but she is writing the story. Unless you a great looking, just meeting some rando at a bar will not cut it for very high valued women. Nice job OP
/r/TheRedPill21/07/19 10:11 PM
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Jobs will help. I’d also heavily suggest diet (keto and carnivore tend to help a lot of people, or just cut out all of the garbage you eat), medications (for anxiety and/or depression), and losing weight or gaining weight via exercise (looking and feeling your absolute best from a physical standpoint)
/r/askTRP21/07/19 07:00 PM
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Haha Yes. It is called Hypergamy. They are monogamous with the highest available suitor to them. They will leave and become monogamous to a higher status individual when that opportunity arises
/r/askTRP20/07/19 11:22 PM
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Haha yes man you got me.
/r/seduction20/07/19 09:47 PM
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So what you’re saying is people never lie to gain points in society? As the great bill burr once said: “Women are constantly patting themselves on the back for how difficult their lives are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck ‘em”. If you look at fbi statistics on crime, men are far and away more likely to be victims of violent crimes. I’m assuming all women tell the truth about rape too? Jesus you are pathetic
/r/seduction20/07/19 06:45 PM
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True, this can happen. But it RARELY happens. Men experience magnitudes more of random violent crime done to them. Stop with the sob stories
/r/seduction20/07/19 05:40 PM
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Hahaha the mental gymnastics you play with yourself. I’m assuming you get turned down by a lot of girls, so you’re one of the guys who created this false narrative of strictly platonic male to female relationships with the majority of women you meet. Am I right or am I right? Edit: yup, profile checks out exactly how I assumed. Nerdy guy who can’t get laid
/r/seduction20/07/19 03:58 PM
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If you were social, confident and attractive, these things would not be happening to you
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:42 PM
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Why not just approach American girls? They’re likely to stick around. Could become a future fwb or girlfriend. I don’t think they are any “harder” to get with and I’m not sure where you got that idea from. Also, numbers mean absolutely nothing. You get the number as a means to continue the interaction. Not to collect numbers
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:41 PM
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Word to the wise: if you are decently attractive, no guy actually just wants to be your friend. Especially if they are single
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:27 PM
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Rappers and old school comedians who didn’t get bitten by the PC bug
/r/askTRP20/07/19 01:27 AM
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Dude is a fucking poet. Reminds me of a Bill Burr quote: "Women are constantly patting themselves on the back for how difficult their lives are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck ‘em." Sums up society today.
/r/askTRP19/07/19 06:44 PM
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Exactly right. We live in the instagram culture. Why do you think everyone is so obsessed with traveling and "experiences" today? Solely to boast on instagram and social media. No one actually cares that much about traveling. They do it for the pictures and social posturing. Went on vacation with my family this past year. My sisters solely cared about getting pictures, not the actual sites, events, and activities we were doing. All that matters is cool pics and a cool narrative to up their socia…
/r/askTRP19/07/19 06:40 PM
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It’s annoying af. Genuinely not doing anything wrong. Like it’s dating site. People are going to talk about sex. For some obscure reason girls can show off their boobs and ass, but god forbid a guy has a shirtless photo... banned... blue pullers irritate me so much
/r/askTRP19/07/19 06:04 PM
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I would assume nothing that bad. Being sexual in my flirting in private messages has gotten me banned multiple times. This is with the girl either initiating the sexual flirting or at least positively going with it , back and fourth
/r/askTRP19/07/19 05:13 PM
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Bumble also band you for highly sexualized profile. Surprisingly, Tinder seems to be the only one that doesn’t. Though for similar profiles, I do better on OKC
/r/askTRP19/07/19 04:05 PM
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There are some pretty big red pills in Christianity.... read some passages about female nature and then reform your thoughts about it from there
/r/askTRP17/07/19 01:11 AM
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As someone who works in IT and can’t stand being around half of my co workers all day because they are Woke, blue pilled, cucks... couldn’t agree more
/r/askTRP17/07/19 01:01 AM
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I’ll say this as someone who got a “great job” immediately after college. If the job is portrayed as high status and is high paying, but there is nothing else that is great about it, stay the fuck in school. You will literally be working for the next 40-60 years of your life. Sure, you can go back to school. But it won’t be the same. This is coming from someone who has constantly taken the practical routes in life. Don’t be so practical all the time. Remember to live
/r/askTRP17/07/19 12:56 AM
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Absolutely, but you can optimize angle of the pic, lighting, tight fitting clothing, shirtless in "appropriate" situations to overcome avg to below avg face
/r/TheRedPill17/07/19 12:43 AM
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What did you do to get out of tech? Totally beginning to realize this man. Kind of sucks. My ”passions” (if I actually have any) lie in health, nutrition and fitness. Wanted to either be a pharmacist or doctor but had no money for school. Studied computer science solely for the money. Knew I could get a job in 4 years that paid a lot. 6-10 years for pharmacy/med school seemed risky with the potential for a lot of debt and not being accepted into schools. Yeah, I got good grades, am well above av…
/r/askTRP14/07/19 05:49 PM
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My main point of this, as well as most guys, is that you dont know you are dating a liar/false accusser until its too late. Lets assume 75% of women dont lie. 25% do and will falsely accuse upon breaking up. You dont know who these women are until it happens. That is where the risk lies.
/r/seduction13/07/19 05:20 PM
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All women say that until you break up with them. Then anything goes and thats where the potential false allegations happen. Ive been threatened with false allegations before when living with a girlfriend. Threatening to bruise herself and calling the cops claiming I hit her. Btw, this relationship was great for 2 years prior to things falling apart. She only started to behave this way when the break up was inevitable. Im sure things happen both ways, but its pretty bad for a lot of guys out ther…
/r/seduction13/07/19 05:14 PM
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Id have to disagree with you on this one. You spend 40 hours a week around attractive women who are somewhat like minded, have a decent job, educated, and share a lot of common experiences. In many ways, they are the optimal mates for you. Example: In college, it was so easy to talk to women in the same class as you. You already have 2 common experiences that you could always fall back too (school and that class)
/r/seduction13/07/19 05:11 PM
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So work networking events is absolutely off the table for me ever since the bs metoo movement. Id love to ask out a few women from work but the potential repercussions are massive. A potential harassment charge on your record forever just because you ask someone out who doesnt like you. What type of volunteer events?
/r/seduction13/07/19 05:02 PM
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Haha... I will game aliens and let you know how it goes
/r/seduction13/07/19 04:47 PM
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There is some truth to what you’re saying. But there is a lot of good material from some guys. Models by Manson and Todd V are very red pilled and have a lot of useful material. Just approaching a bunch of women is not necessarily efficient. Knowing how to properly escalate, how to not be boring, when to get physical, push pull, etc are all part of game. I don’t think most of the community is looking for “10 easy hacks”. It takes a lot of time and work to actually become good. I’ve done pick up …
/r/askTRP13/07/19 01:27 AM
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I would try approaching in a high volume bar or club in a city. Do it until approach anxiety becomes greatly reduced and you realize that it’s not that big of a deal. Night game is an easy way to get your feet wet
/r/askTRP12/07/19 09:54 PM
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How so? How many approaches do you have under your belt? Day game? Night game?
/r/askTRP12/07/19 09:51 PM
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I’d suggest just going out and doing it. You can read about it all day. Means absolute jack shit. If you really are so clueless that you won’t start without out it, read Mystery Method, Models, and the seduction subreddit. But again, you will learn more in 3 hours of cold approach then you will in hours and hours and hours of reading material
/r/askTRP12/07/19 09:49 PM
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Is PUA really cringey? I doubt it. How is approaching women you find attractive cringey?
/r/askTRP12/07/19 09:36 PM
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I have to somewhat agree with this post. I used to get very very few matches on any online dating app. When I say few I mean almost none (unless I posted a shirtless selfie with head cutoff, which unsurprisingly got a ton of responses because I’m in great shape). I thought, “well I must be fucking ugly” and kind of just gave up on it. Recently, I started doing cold approach pick up in “real life.” I started going out with guys through networking that started on Reddit. When I started cold approa…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/19 09:15 PM
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Can you elaborate? This interests me. What is milk work exactly. And the whole brotherhood thing is something I severely miss... haven’t had that since I stopped playing team sports
/r/askTRP12/07/19 03:23 AM
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I make roughly 105k+ potentially 10k with bonus and the other usual benefits. Student loan debt is around 55k at the moment. I’ve done cost of living adjustment calculators for a lot of southern cities where a comparable income would be in the 60ks in a lot of the areas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, Tampa, Raleigh, Phoenix etc). I’ve seen what jobs are paying for my skill set and level. Even if I took a paycut in these areas (say down to 80k), I’d be taking home more money due to decreased cost in e…
/r/askTRP12/07/19 01:24 AM
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I wouldn't say that my life outside of work is that bad. Purely gaming women is surprisingly big here. At least the groups Ive found. I also workout like a champ via running, power lifting and crossfit. The problem is AT work. I find my job pretty miserable, political, blue pilled, and boring. But I have student loans, need to live somewhere (and DC is as expensive af), and other minor bills. Would a lower cost of living red state increase the chance of having a better work environment in the sa…
/r/askTRP12/07/19 12:44 AM
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Industry and City? DC is like 96% liberal... it can be pretty bad
/r/askTRP12/07/19 12:13 AM
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Why do you keep saying that people are spending money on this? Almost no one does. Drink water when you’re at the venue, get a wing or go solo, and it’s completely free. And I completely disagree. It may not work for you, but it has yielded results for me and a fair amount of people I know
/r/TheRedPill08/07/19 03:04 PM
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Cold approach isn’t “that” much investment. And it does work, assuming that if you weren’t cold approaching you’d be doing some other useless activity. You do get better at game with time and effort. It might take a year. Maybe a few years. But once you’re good, you’re essentially unstoppable. It doesn’t cost money. It takes about 1 night a week if you don’t care too much for it. For guys that enjoy it or really want to get good, they do it multiple nights a week. I know a fair amount of people …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/19 04:55 AM
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I named a few. Tradesmen I know make more than a lot of programmers. Do they make that right away? No. Most plumbers/electricians/HVAC guys start out at like 30k a year. However, they dont go to college. Within 5-10 years they generally aquire enough licenses and experiences that they become foremen, specialize, or start their own businesses (which are much less competitive than starting software companies due to issues of scaling. Each town needs its own set of plumbers. One app can reach every…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 04:04 PM
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Lol, how about you read my original comment in the thread. Ill copy and paste for you, but go ahead and look for yourself: Couldn't agree more with some points. Is the job market oversaturated? No. I made 6 figures my first job out of college. Is corporate programming (the jobs 90% of people have) mind numbing, boring, confines you to an office, makes you uninteresting because the work you do is so mundane and abstract that no one besides fellow programmers can understand your work, yes. This is…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 03:45 PM
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The point of your post was that you can make billions from a "hobby". This is incredibly unlikely is my point. Apps do not easily transition into money, especially now. 10-15 years ago, maybe. But a lot of the real estate is already taken up. Why are you so offended pussy?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 03:34 PM
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Haha, that is literally one in a million. Right time, right place, genius IQ for a handful of them. Low hanging fruit like facebook no longer exists in the industry. You are incredibly unlikely to make a billion dollar app. And now you are just a boring guy
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 03:23 PM
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Sounds like you either A. Lucked out in a high paying start up B. Have yet to work in the industry C. Are an actual nerd
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 03:21 PM
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Couldn't agree more with some points. Is the job market oversaturated? No. I made 6 figures my first job out of college. Is corporate programming (the jobs 90% of people have) mind numbing, boring, confines you to an office, makes you uninteresting because the work you do is so mundane and abstract that no one besides fellow programmers can understand your work, yes. This is not even to say that I completely hate programming in general. But corporate programming is a much different animal than t…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/19 03:20 PM
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Im just seeing how long and how much effort the avg amount of time is. Ive seen Todd V and Mystery both say it can take anywhere between a few months to a few years. I just seem to go in highs and lows of being motivated to go out and sarge. As much as I want to go out 4 times a week for a few hours a night, my motivation and life in general hasn't allowed it. Ive progressed immensely from when I started, but have only gone out 5-6 times in the past couple of months for the sole purpose of worki…
/r/seduction04/07/19 05:33 PM
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You are a so dumb there is not even a point in arguing with you. Good luck with whatever the fuck you do with your life
/r/seduction04/07/19 05:24 PM
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It’s either you have it or you don’t /s
/r/seduction04/07/19 01:37 PM
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This is completely untrue. Being willing to go and talk to women is a minor part of game. The fact that you say this leads me to believe that you are a keyboard warrior who actually never goes out for pick up
/r/seduction04/07/19 01:36 PM
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Everything matters. To what degree for each person, who knows. Why focus on things you can’t control? It’s a useless waste of time, effort and energy
/r/seduction01/07/19 06:04 PM
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As an avg looking guy, hookups have happened for me in the past. And I don’t put too much effort in. Go out on avg 1-2 nights a week (sometimes 0, sometimes 3). Have only gamed at night so far. Also have had a few results online. For in person, generally don’t go out on an actual date with the person. Just invite over house/apartment. Online, make a sexual profile. I objectively have a 9/10 body when not clothed, so I just post a couple shirtless pics. A decent amount respond and almost all are …
/r/seduction28/06/19 01:03 PM
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Same problem I have. The number is just a means of communication. The interaction can not be based off of whether or not you got a number. You are not in this to collect numbers. You need to break the ice, establish some attraction and rapport, then get the number as a means to continue the interaction at a later time. Don’t get me wrong. It was a huge step for me when I first started just to even approach a girl. Then it was huge to just get a number. So take these as major victories. But as yo…
/r/seduction25/06/19 11:13 PM
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Genuinely believe that everyone likes you, and if they don’t, that is their problem and they are missing out. You should almost feel bad for them
/r/seduction24/06/19 08:59 PM
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This isn’t necessarily a bad thing though. It’s more of social proof than a bad reputation. These two girls you’re referencing do no know each other and are not part of the same social group. That’s why it’s different from a small town/high school/Greek life setting
/r/seduction24/06/19 12:51 AM
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True... which falls under the sorority/high school dynamics. But for that to happen, the city would have to be under 50k, maybe even smaller
/r/seduction23/06/19 11:22 PM
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I disagree... I generally do a couple “warm up” approaches to start my night with not so attractive women, and they are arbitrarily receptive
/r/seduction23/06/19 10:40 PM
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If you’re seen with other attractive women, your status goes up. A bad rep would only happen if you were somehow being genuinely creepy, which I haven’t actually seen before. If you were in college sleeping with a bunch of girls from a sorority or something like that, then yeah you could gain a negative reputation. But in a city, no one really knows anyone else that well
/r/seduction23/06/19 10:39 PM
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I’ve found it to be almost entirely random
/r/seduction23/06/19 10:35 PM
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To add on to what a “nice guy” is: he is also a guy who is only being nice to get something out of the transaction. Other ways haven’t worked for him. “If I’m nice, she’ll be my girlfriend and sleep with me”. This is being very dishonest, and that is what a girl can “sense” when she’s around a nice guy. If he will lie about this, he will lie about anything. A douchebag is more trustworthy and honest, although still a douchebag
/r/seduction21/06/19 09:23 PM
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I like it
/r/seduction20/06/19 11:53 PM
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Not sure why some of these comments are so negative. "Ehh, she was not completely sober. At least a little drunken stage". People being drunk is literally every club, bar or party. If you watch the video, he essentially returned an IOI for every IOI she gave him. It didnt look like she once asked him to stop touching her or gave an IOD at any point. And she was very reciprocal and initiated the touching. Most sets are not this physical, but in this case, it seems completely appropriate. The gene…
/r/seduction19/06/19 02:55 AM
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This is bad advice. Study after study indicates that for male to female interactions to occur, males must start the interaction between 75-90% of the time. If you are above avg in facial aesthetics (top 20 percent) , sure, your way might work. But by definition, the vast majority of men (75-90%) will be much better off getting used to approaching
/r/seduction14/06/19 03:58 AM
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You decide what you want out of life. Some guys want to fuck as many women as possible, some want a lot of great relationships, some want one girl, some just want to be alone. If you genuinely value being her friend rather than being her next boyfriend, you did the right thing. If you actually pussied out of it, I would say learn from the mistake and do differently next time. But only you know the true answer to that
/r/seduction12/06/19 01:57 AM
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Very odd that you prefer a wingman of similar stature. Some of the best guys at game are short and not the greatest looking. They’re great at game because it was the only way. And a true wing is someone to hangout with between sets and occupy other girls when you open. You are really limiting yourself by having this attitude. I’d go out with and wing a lot of people. You would not be one of them Edit: Looking at this guys post history, he is a confirmed tool bag
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:36 PM
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Your Main problem: you are overthinking this way too much. Have some opener ready. It can be anything. Something as simple as “hi, my name is x, what is your name?” Follow the 3 second rule. You need volume at this point in your game. Meaning a lot of approaches. And they don’t have to go anywhere. You need incremental progress. You are trying to get laid when you can’t even open. Game doesn’t work like that. Opening is step one. Attraction is step 2. Seduction is step 3. Sex is the final step. …
/r/seduction09/06/19 03:00 PM
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Haha... most people are guys on this sub... well then, one other point then on what I prefer. Don’t do anything crazy with your hair. Either natural, straightened or ponytail
/r/seduction08/06/19 11:30 PM
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Other people will have different advice, but my main points are as follows: 1. Make sure your clothes fit. Always go slightly tighter than slightly looser, especially if you are skinny/in shape 2. Do not smell bad 3. Be groomed. Don’t have a 4 week old untamed neck beard. If beards are your thing, then keep the beard. If not, short stubble or clean shaven. That’s about it. Don’t overthink it
/r/seduction08/06/19 11:26 PM
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High school? College? Adult? Venue?
/r/seduction08/06/19 11:19 PM
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I agree with nivajoe. I only do night game. I get rejected a fair amount, like everyone else. However, the rejections are rarely as bad as guys make it out to be or imagine them to be. A lot of the time, even if the girl has no interest, she will not put you down hard because most people aren’t huge dicks. Now, have I been put down hard? Yes. Is it common? Not at all. Are you smiling during the interaction? Are you cornering her? Are you touching right away or saying anything ridiculously inappr…
/r/seduction07/06/19 11:22 PM
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H
/r/seduction07/06/19 11:22 PM
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If your goal is to get laid or get a girlfriend AND every girl thinks you’re boring, you need to change. What good is it being stubborn and resentful? Adapt and get better. And if you are boring, there is a good chance you aren’t being “yourself”, giving a fuck, or just have bad social skills. Try to improve
/r/seduction04/06/19 10:25 PM
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Looks do matter. The good news is you’ve realized this, admitted it to yourself and are actually making a change. Focus on being better than you were yesterday, rather than instant results. For me, I have yet to pull a girl in one night. However, I considered my first approach a huge accomplishment. My first good set a huge accomplishment. My first number a huge accomplishment. To a legit pua, these things mean nothing. But I don’t compare myself to them. I compare myself to what I was yesterday…
/r/seduction04/06/19 10:21 PM
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Go to high volume bars/clubs. I realized something the last couple times I’ve gone. I’ll go with one or two other guys, both interested in game. We’ll get separated. I then proceed to make a fair amount of approaches alone. Being that these places are high volume, it’s difficult to find these guys again (being that they are also approaching). So I’m essentially there by myself even though I’m technically with a couple friends. At one point, I really was at the place by myself because my approach…
/r/seduction04/06/19 05:07 PM
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Interesting tactic and definitely worth a try
/r/seduction04/06/19 04:58 PM
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I’m pretty new to game (only been doing it for a few weeks), but my go to move that rarely failed in the past was me asking a girl to come back to my apartment to watch a movie. I either met these girls online or through social circle. If she said yes, I knew I was getting laid. When she comes over, we go to the couch, talk, turn on some movie/show. I make physical contact. Rubbing a leg, back, stroking hair etc. Then keep on escalating the contact until we start kissing. Now, during night game …
/r/seduction04/06/19 03:06 AM
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Solid question and am dealing with the same issue
/r/seduction04/06/19 02:58 AM
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Two things: 1. What’s your regular opener? 2. What’s the return of texting rate (they text back and eventually go on date) on number closing? I only do night game and while I have been successful in getting numbers, getting responses and eventual dates has been around a 20-30 percent success rate
/r/seduction04/06/19 02:56 AM
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While I agree Models is the best, other pua advice is still useful. Was watching a few Mystery videos a couple of days ago. The guy knows his shit. While you shouldn’t just use his stuff, or one gurus way of doing things, obtaining a wide array of knowledge AND then later applying it in the field will yield you best results
/r/seduction04/06/19 02:54 AM
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Still relatively new so I don’t want to give a ton of info because it may be bad. But I generally say something ridiculous as an opener, in a funny way with a huge smile on. That sets a playful tone. I have generic questions in the bag (what do you do for work, what’s your major, where are you from, why are you out tonight, etc). However, if I only do generic questions like this, it’s generally a bad set. Because it’s boring. Guess your/my age, nationality, what I do for work, 2 truths and a lie…
/r/seduction04/06/19 12:03 AM
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Message me
/r/seduction28/05/19 03:25 AM
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Rsd and reddit have worked for me... then network from there Edit: worst case scenario. Go out by yourself. If asked why you’re alone, say you’re waiting for friends, friend ended up canceling when you got there, friend just left, jokingly/playfully say you have no friends. Or get anybody with a pulse to go with you, and approach even if they don’t want too
/r/seduction24/05/19 01:07 AM
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Focus on getting better rather than stats. Fundamentally, you’re doing this to improve your life. Not trying to be better than other strangers online who may or may not be lying about their stats on picking up girls
/r/seduction24/05/19 01:06 AM
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If you’re solely doing it to meet women, I’d suggest cold approach. Do other hobbies that you like, not just doing them solely to meet women.
/r/seduction24/05/19 01:03 AM
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Are you measuring correctly? Honestly, that is abnormal. I would go to a doctor, get it checked out. Surgery probably exists for this. But FYI, a proper measurement is when you press into your pelvic bone. Take an iPhone, push into the bone above. If it’s around the same length, you’re average my man
/r/seduction21/05/19 12:57 AM
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I’ll have to think about this one for a good answer, and if I come up with something better I’ll edit later. But here is a go: I’m naturally a playful/joking person around people I’m comfortable with. Strangers not so much. But what I did Friday was be that joking/playful person during an approach. Two Asians were the set. They happened to be older than I was (I’m 25, they were both 30). Made stereotypical Asian jokes. Made fun of their age. Made fun of myself (not too much though, but just enou…
/r/seduction19/05/19 10:21 PM
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Just say you are waiting for your friends to get here. Friend is going to the bathroom. Friend just left but you felt like staying out longer. Not too hard to do. You are overthinking it. Pro tip: when in the bar, actually believe and convince yourself that you are meeting up with people
/r/seduction19/05/19 10:11 PM
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I agree. I think we forget the ultimate goal of pick up sometimes. The goal is to make your life as happy/fulfilling as possible via relationships. If she makes you happy, text her more often. With that being said, don’t become a push over
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:54 PM
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Only focus on things you can control. Are looks important, sure, to a point.Make sure your clothes fit. Get a haircut/shave your head. Lift weights and don’t be obese. Floss. Don’t waste time and energy about height and face. It will only give you a reason to cop out. You really don’t have to be that good looking to get laid. What do you gain from worrying about this? Your ability to talk and hold a conversation, be charismatic and energetic, and have enough balls to approach women matter infini…
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:44 PM
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I think its a great book (read it a little over a year ago). My perspective: I want to get good at game to gain great relationships with women. My ultimate goal is not to fuck as many women as possible. My goal is to get great relationships by being able to approach and talk to any woman I find attractive. Sex comes along with that, but that isn't the goal. And that is one of the main takeaways of models. How to develop great relationships. There are great points in the book, with my favorite be…
/r/seduction19/05/19 06:16 PM
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