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Nah, 80% of men are email 100% of women they match with lol. We carpet bomb that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:03 PM
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It's a pretty simple cost benefit analysis. All things have a reward/effort ratio. If the perceived effort needed to have a reasonable probability at romantic success is too high of course people are going to avoid that in favour of different opportunities for rewards. Whether this is an accurate assessment is subjective and debatable dependant on the individual. It is similar having limited opportunity for a pay raise and quitting. Do you bust your ass 80 hours a week for it, or accept that it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:13 PM
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They don't, those are the reasons they give to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:01 PM
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I've got a graduate degree, I play sport semi professionally, I'm well travelled and read. I also have abs and a good face. Guess which one of the two above has gotten me 0 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:50 PM
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Yeah, but that dude wasn't the average man. He has top 5% height and probably top 10% looks (from your description). It seems like he needs to be attractive, PLUS he needs to be smart, confident and charming rather than the average/below man can do well with just the latter traits. You're just raising the bar more lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:45 PM
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Nah, peasants tended to marry for love, but it was restricted to who was in the area (or who got you pregnant). You're thinking of nobility arranged marriages, which still happy (my grandparents were in one).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:55 AM
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Fairly feminine looking straight guy, who knits and dances. I think you just have to consider what the hobbies offer the person. Some feminine hobbies like fashion and makeup have an "aim" to attract men. Since I am not gay, these do not appeal (but I do occasionally read about the subculture). You can also do it for confidence sake, but that's the obvious "purpose" to it. Cooking is seen as a feminine hobby, but tons of guys becomes professional chefs and such (top level is dominated by men). T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:53 AM
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No, you need a tutorial on knowing that the incredibly handsome, smooth, charming man who's inviting you up to his apartment to have tea is probably not considering you a romantic prospect, the attractive badboy is also probably not the best person to date, etc etc. Different problems different strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:33 AM
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I've tried to help a number of incels. I've modelled part time (although I'm 5'9'') so I know pretty much all the tricks to maximise your looks. My skincare routine has multiple steps, I drink lukewarm water, and I only take cold showers, in addition to hitting the gym religiously. If you have the trait, you show it. If not, try to cover it with a beard or something (legitimatly the best tool for men with worse faces if you can grow one). It pisses me off that so much photoshop + roids are used …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:14 PM
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Of course I care about their money, why would I want to date some broke chick? I don't care about her education but I'd like her to be athletic and intelligent. I've had girls support me financially. I feel "red pill" men talk about career not mattering for women, date some broke chick that's after their money that they think they can control, then get salty when they get burned because they've convinced themselves they're a "high value man". If you're using something as a lure don't be surprise…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:54 PM
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Some men have a fetish to get eaten by other men (cannibalism) . Some wish to fuck horses, while others wish to have their balls lovingly crushed by a 300 pound woman wearing nothing but heels. How do you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:46 PM
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Yeah totally agree, if you have genetically elite features and you're intentionally hiding them you should show them off. Good grooming can take you up like 1/10. Those people are not what you call incel. If you don't have very good features to begin with grooming will not have a similar effect so it's not a good example. Disclaiming it from the start doesn't take away from it not really proving anything. Can everyone model if they have a good skincare routine? Surely some % of the population ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:44 PM
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Oh sorry I missed that and just watched the video's, my bad. What point were you making ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:33 PM
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You're kidding me right? Those men have top 1% faces that they're deliberately hiding in the before with as many "dorky" tactics as they can. They're also using filters in the afters. The effect works because the underlying good looks are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:26 PM
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Yes, but how visually fat someone looks correlates directly with my desire to date and bang them. It's like this for a large % of men. Therefore, losing weight will be putting in work for their appearance. If they think staying large is part of being a strong independent women then power to them, but from my point of view it's the same as the neckbeard who doesn't shower. No one said anything about health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:19 PM
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Connor "I'm going bald from roid abuse" Murphy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:16 PM
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If you're not getting results, and you don't want to change anything about yourself, how do you think you're going to get results? What the fuck is "you" anyway. No human being understands any other human being completely. My friends like me because of the persona I put on when I'm around them. My persona is different around my family. I'm still the same person both times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:14 PM
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Correct, I do the same. 3 inch platforms. I also unhesitatingly talk to beautiful women at bars. There is 100% a subsection of women who will not date shorter men. This kills me since I'm more attracted to taller women. Some hilariously harsh rejections. Cool, a funny story and a step closer to getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:11 PM
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You can't rule out evolution making men sad when they can't get a girl. You can't rule out evolution making men sad when they can't eat. Both of these positions are valid ones to be sad in. Because one exists does not invalidate the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:08 PM
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I have a decently extensive skincare routine, a flattering haircut, and I dress decently well. In these areas I'm pretty sure I've put in a similar amount of effort to most women. Women then put a lot of time into makeup. I can't do this. I'd say the closest would be a beard to hide a weak jawline (if you can grow one) or sunnies to hide a weak eye area. Women can "enhance" attributes like breast size, ass shape (heels) and height using a variety of things. The closest thing men have to this are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:06 PM
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I think it's easier to categorise people on a dominance/pro-social graph. Studies show that pro-social is correlated with attractiveness in men when dominance is high, but negatively correlated when dominance is low. Therefore, Melvin who buys you coffee because he's a great guy but a bit of a doormat is going to lose to Brad who openly tells misogynistic jokes but is the leader of his football team who loses to Kelvin who's a volunteer fire-fighter. If you're socially dominant, you ARE an "alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:26 PM
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Redpill: All women are whores and will sleep with any higher value man if you're not offering immediate utility. Women who don't sleep around are at a premium and should be the only candidates for a relationship. Women: Don't sleep around, try to trade exclusivity for a relationship. Vetting hard and seeking only high quality relationships IS a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:15 PM
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It depends on the joke. A lot of people try to cover up things they're insecure about by "joking" about it. The thought process behind why they do it is exactly as you said above. I guess it might work sometimes. However, if a guy made a joke like the one said above, I'd just feel kinda bad for him if he was shorter. It just seems demeaning and something guys with low self respect would do. A LOT of guys with lowish self esteem do this shitty "pity humour" stuff, where they just self depreciate …
/r/seduction08/02/20 05:07 AM
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Same shit. I wouldn't make jokes about it, that sounds kinda dumb.
/r/seduction07/02/20 03:53 PM
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What was the plan here? I can go onto the internet and get a stunning camgirl to talk to me for money. I can go out and bang a pretty good prostitute for money. I can go and buy multiple mcflurries with money. Why would I ever spend it like that? Do you really think a subreddit dedicated to "Seduction" would be interested in getting ripped off? If you actually wanna find customers just join communities in your area with a lot of loser men.
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:37 PM
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I find a lot of "funny" guys just do it to cover up for their insecurities and just act as the whipping boy of most groups. Make sure your posture is good. Don't talk too fast or high pitched or stutter, don't let people talk over you, don't not finish your sentences. Don't be scared of silence. Take a second to think about what you're going to say in discussions. If someone tries to tool you, don't always laugh along. Set clear boundaries. Honor your obligations, as in don't be late, keep your …
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:31 PM
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If you don't react much to it, or react to it well, you pass. If you fold like a little bitch, you obviously have neither self respect nor confidence. Guys do it as well. "Can I depend on this guy when the chips are down, or is he gonna be a wuss. Let's give him a small amount of pressure to see what happens".
/r/seduction07/02/20 12:25 PM
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why are you here?
/r/seduction07/02/20 11:31 AM
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I don't believe an objectively good looking person can be "unphotogenic". I reckon either your friends and family are real bad at taking photo's (and you can't pose for shit) or you're naturally charismatic and it makes you seem better looking than you are (+ stuff like height is more relevant in real life, which is why you take photo's with someone shorter than you if you're tall). If it's case 1 hire a professional photographer if you're rich. I'm surprised you don't already have pro level pic…
/r/seduction07/02/20 04:57 AM
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"I'm buff and good looking". "I'll get out competed by other dudes on a superficial app which literally lists your profession". Nah man. Should be fine unless you're actually ugly. Make sure at least one of your pics has a shorter friend in it to show off the height as well.
/r/seduction06/02/20 09:41 PM
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Real shy dude, never got any action from girls in our high school. Used to try to get him to talk to girls at the mall but he'd always get too nervous and not do it. Find out last year he's flying to where I live to see a random chick. I joke about how that's real expensive to just get some pussy and he tells me she's paying for airfare and a hotel room. I'm surprised and ask is she some sort of rich girl, and he tells me she's recently divorced, fairly rich hubby apparently. I ask about the age…
/r/seduction06/02/20 09:32 PM
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A bit more information than that would be helpful. A mate of mine (24 years old) regularly sleeps with 40+ year olds and get's paid a bit to do it. He also loves MILFS, which I don't understand. Do you just like 55 year olds in general?
/r/seduction06/02/20 09:11 PM
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Post about women giving shit advice. If you ask a woman "should I approach" the answer is "probably not", since they tend to be more risk avoidant. "Just approach more".
/r/seduction06/02/20 12:03 PM
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Talk to an bisexual person. "Which one is easier to get a date with. Women or men". There's a reason bisexual women inevitably getting stolen by a man is a troupe in those circles. It's much less effort to get a date with one. It's easy to offer "advice" from afar, but some of the girls I know have gone "let me on your tinder. I bet I could get you a date in a minute". They have some of the least game I've ever seen.
/r/seduction06/02/20 12:01 PM
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The thing is, a lot of women want to be seduced. Not in the "get cheated out of sex by having the guy put in the least input for sex". More "get swept off your feet, and have sex with a guy they find really interesting and attractive". To become this guy it takes a lot of work. That's what this subreddit should be about: how to become that guy. However, once you know what "that guy" does it becomes less special. It's like knowing how a magic trick works. The problem is, most attractive guys do s…
/r/seduction06/02/20 11:51 AM
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So you have a 90% change of sleeping with a girl after asking 50 out? Sounds pre gud man Edit: Banned so I can't make any new comments. You're thinking of the monte carlo fallacy. (0.96)\<sup>50</sup> is around 12% from the starting state.
/r/seduction06/02/20 07:44 AM
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"Shitty actual stats" are like 1-5 fucks out of around 100 or so. That's still a lot more than you'd get without it tho.
/r/seduction06/02/20 07:43 AM
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I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a concern troll. Some men I know love computers. Pretty much all they talk about are computers. If you also love computers, they're the best. If these men are "themselves" around women, 99.9% of them aren't interested. This is why you teach those men what "techniques" about how to talk to people. Stuff like conversation threading, storytelling, body language, etc etc. Most of this comes naturally for most people, so they never analyse i…
/r/seduction05/02/20 11:03 AM
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A LTR is seducing them but constantly over a long period of time. You still need to do all the inner game and foundational shit or you become a loser and she leaves you. You also have to recognize when something is serious, and when she's just giving you a shittest because she's bored.
/r/seduction05/02/20 10:53 AM
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She might want to have sex, but decide not to cause you've pissed her off. The not having sex (a negative for both of you) is her punishing you.
/r/seduction05/02/20 10:51 AM
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Yeah, so you show that behavior you like is met by behavior they like. Behavior you don't like is met by behavior they don't like. Almost like a punishment.
/r/seduction05/02/20 10:51 AM
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Lmao why are you downvoting this. It's literally a fucking SEDUCTION sub. You think people arent gonna discuss PUA.
/r/seduction05/02/20 10:46 AM
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Hard as fuck to socialize at bars and clubs. Everyone is ADHD as fuck inside. Only real place you can talk is smoking outside (and I don't smoke). If you want to socialize: Find a group. Running, rockclimbing, knitting, dancing, literally any hobby that has at least some girls in it. Best if constant influx of new people. First lesson ask "How long have you been doing X for?" Try to chat to both guys and girls. I mean, cold approach is inherently pretty unnatural. It's effective but if you want …
/r/seduction05/02/20 04:37 AM
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I seriously hope you're joking. Who the fuck is socially awkward enough to not sit next to a girl on the bus but also has low enough inhibitions to wait in front of her university for hours. This is how you get arrested. What are you even gonna say "h-h-hey I saw you on the bus 5 hours ago and I thought you were pretty".
/r/seduction02/02/20 01:13 PM
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Wtf. You literally just wanna sit down. What level of autism are you at where you literally can't sit next to a woman. She's not gonna care if you sit next to her unless you smell like shit. Just sit next to her. Not even as a pick up thing, but because it's a natural thing to do.
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:06 PM
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What do you consider as an asshole?
/r/seduction02/02/20 12:04 PM
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Pretty much everyone is an "enjoyable person" when they're just bantering with the boys on league or runescape. People usually are just "introverted" in uncomfortable social situations. If you practice socializing enough the uncomfortable situations become normal. I think it's pretty much just exposure (and that's why you need to socialize your kids early).
/r/seduction02/02/20 11:43 AM
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Why would I care about looking beta if I can fuck good looking girls?
/r/seduction02/02/20 10:16 AM
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Sti gang gang. Serious tho, I think a random thot on the tram has just as good a chance of giving me aids as club girls and tinder girls.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:28 PM
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Mighta been, looked and smelled pretty clean and was carrying shoes tho. Either way, no regrets unless I get the STD. She wasn't actually going to sleep in front of the 7/11 btw, that's just what I told her to try to get her to come home with me.
/r/seduction01/02/20 03:43 PM
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Well, yeah I'm probably better looking than you tbh. You seriously think things like this don't happen if you're in a city full of girls on a friday night tho? Do you even approach girls? Why are you on this subreddit.
/r/seduction01/02/20 12:36 PM
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Nah it happened, just there's 0% nutritional content in this post. I'll attach a little weight to mine so it gets a bit more momentum.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:35 AM
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Just don't do it from the start. It's like when the fat girl keeps making self-depreciating fat jokes: they intentionally put themselves in a low status position to get sympathy. Once you see someone do it you kinda lose respect for them.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:17 AM
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Essentially just a shitpost masquerading as a field report lmao.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:13 AM
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not if you have Asperger's lmao.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:02 AM
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Why the fuck would you post that shit on social media. It's like you WANT to be at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
/r/seduction01/02/20 04:58 AM
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Instead of approaching, what are you doing with the rest of your day? If you sit in front of your computer or tv for more than 3 hours a day doing unproductive shit it's not good for you. You're gonna feel like a loser, because you're being a loser. I think most people have "bad social skills" now days because they've run away from socializing since high school. The only way is just join groups and chat. Volunteer with a bunch of kids or join a sports team.
/r/seduction01/02/20 04:45 AM
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Goddam that's a mature response, good on you. Sorry if that was abrasive. I'm just mad this sub is watered down to this point tho lol. I got more than 9 girls from just tinder using info you can pretty easily find doing a search on this subreddit. I'd recommend most guys to read a bit about social dynamics and sales, since those guys tend to explain the concepts very clearly.
/r/seduction31/01/20 04:16 AM
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Why are we giving advice out at 9 girls. also, this entire post is: be high status. Be charismatic. Since this is "yourself" it works. It's not helpful to guys who aren't naturally like that.
/r/seduction30/01/20 06:05 PM
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If you read the comments I post there, you'd notice that they're mostly self improvement tips. It's a similar reason I post here (Since the current state of the subreddit is terrible compared to 2013-14) and r/tinder. Obviously clothes help a bit, but someone's face and body is obviously going to have a larger effect in my experience. You don't think this isn't true right? By dress like shit, I mean I buy my clothes from the thrift shop for $5-10 a pop. Also what is this dumbass "let's look at h…
/r/seduction29/01/20 05:30 PM
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If your face is attractive you can get girls wearing patchwork hobostyle clothes. Sources: Dress like shit, it doesn't matter. I'd say looks are a solid 80% of game.
/r/seduction29/01/20 05:10 PM
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Nah, fuck that. Just buy normal condoms. Go in slow. If you jackrabbit from the start you're gonna cum fast, If you inch in slowly while talking shit it's more "intimate".
/r/seduction29/01/20 05:07 PM
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Nah, good looking face is way better. Even shit clothes look good if you're moderatly jacked. I know a few guys who wear pricy watches and "fancy" clothes and still don't look as good as an average jacked guy in a T-shirt.
/r/seduction29/01/20 05:04 PM
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What are fundamentals lmao.
/r/seduction29/01/20 05:03 PM
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"How to last longer in sex" "Fuck more girls". It makes sense 100% dude. Higher end escorts also tend to be pretty hot.
/r/seduction28/01/20 08:21 AM
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No hobbies either? If you don't want friends then why do you want a girlfriend? If you just wanna bang go to a pro.
/r/seduction28/01/20 08:16 AM
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If you're reading fifty shades of gray for the characters and the plot, you also probably go to churches to pray. Women like the buildup to scenario's more than men: men just wanna see someone get banged. The pizza guy coming to the door IS the porn for the girls (but the pizza guy is a billionaire werewolf vampire).
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:12 AM
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State of seddit in 2020 lmao. "Be a leader and be confident" Wtf happened man. Is it just the older guys aging out?
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:27 PM
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I see pickup as throughput * retention. If you meet more women, even if only 1% of them like you you'll get dates (cold approach). If you make yourself more attractive, retention goes up so you get more dates (social circle). You should concentrate on those two factors depending on what the situation is. If you do cold approach tons of girls at uni you have low throughput (same girls). You also get very low status if you get pegged as "that creep", lowering retention. You don't usually get this …
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:25 PM
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You're at a university. This is a campus with some of the best looking girls you'll ever meet (statistically, since there's a ton of young women). Tinder's alright, but if you really wanna meet a lot of women actually participate in university. Go to clubs and events, talk to exchange students, etc etc. Otherwise, every single tip about tinder normally applies. Go to the search bar, and search "Tinder profile", or do the same with google.
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:16 PM
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You can look up a ton of guides on google, or this very subreddit that go into much more depth than I care to. However, here are a few things to note especially for university. Exchange students: foreign country, stay for 6 months than leave, usually lighter workload and no judgement from friends. Easy to bang. Silly clubs: We have a pirate club and an astronomy club which are just excuses to drink. Easy to bang. Careful of overly PUA activity on campus. Girls are hypersensitive to it in this po…
/r/seduction25/01/20 03:08 PM
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So these are your two alternatives: It's too much work for you. You give up. You don't get laid, stay at home and placate yourself with porn and video games. You keep working to make yourself more attractive. After a while you get laid regularly. It's not anyone's decision but your own to pick which one you want to go with. If you don't think it's worth it, by all means go for 1. It leaves more girls for the rest of us. Just don't bitch about not getting any girls. Obviously you're kinda shit at…
/r/seduction25/01/20 07:59 AM
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Yeah. That's also a video that he released like 6 years ago, that he presented specifically in a seminar of what NOT to do, while critically picking apart what he did wrong. He's also released multiple video's where he DOES do most of the things right. I've slept with maybe 10-20 women last year. If you made a compilation of all the cringe shit I've done, or the worst sets I've had, it'd be much worse than that vid. I also slept with 2 more women than the national lifetime average, in a year. I …
/r/seduction25/01/20 02:48 AM
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Because one bad set doesn't mean you're shit. I could compile flops of Messi, Micheal Jordan, Tiger Woods and make them seem like they're the worst players on earth. That doesn't mean that, if they make a ton of FREE educational content it going to be crap. To know if it is, you go out and test what they say. Some of it works, some of it doesn't. Cut out the bad and keep the good.
/r/seduction25/01/20 02:29 AM
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It depends on what you're doing. If it's girls who are already showing IOI's? Probably over 50%. If it's just random girls who might be running off to work? Mabye 1-5%.
/r/seduction25/01/20 02:17 AM
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Your advice is exactly the sort of shit that leaves guy lonely and alone, jerking off in their rooms. "Just believe in yourself, if you know and treat yourself like a high value man the women will come bro". I have incredibly high levels of self confidence. Didn't start getting lots of girls until I understood sales well. If you have a high price art work, you hang around parties with people who want to buy your art work. You take flattering pictures of it, email buyer's who might be interested …
/r/seduction25/01/20 01:16 AM
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I'm assuming you wanna meet a "wholesome" girl. Just do wholesome shit. Church, book club, volunteering, etc etc. Why do you want this tho. If you're legit wanting to meet a good looking girl with no makeup. Date a good looking girl with makeup, and then take the makeup off.
/r/seduction24/01/20 12:15 PM
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Around 90%? I'll always invite, and they say no pretty rarely.
/r/seduction21/01/20 03:31 AM
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Yeah, you'd probably classify the hottest as decently "hot". I feel most of the reason you think it's so great is because your brain is validating itself a ton. "Oh I've finally made it, I'm fucking hot women". If you get sex semi-regularly it stops being such a big deal and the effort needed to get a "real hot" woman isn't worth what you get compared to a 6-7. Probably varies from person to person tho. I usually bang doggy so I don't really even see the face for a good part of the sex so the bo…
/r/seduction16/01/20 11:50 PM
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Yeah, so how are you gonna look like a dumb-ass by having an insta? Just post normal pictures or cool stuff if you go urban exploring or something. 100% fair enough if you don't want to go for instagram girls. That's your choice, like any girl can choose not to go for guys under 6'0''. However, it does limit your options and takes away a pretty easy to use tool to get girls. I personally just cast a wide net since I like to be able to consistently get casual hookups, so we might just be after re…
/r/seduction16/01/20 07:12 AM
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Yeah no shit, do you wanna "be real" or do you wanna get laid. Do you think that people work 80 hours weeks to stack bank, get an apartment they never see, and drive a fancy car because they love to work hard? No they do it to get laid. Do you think 90% of the gym are really there for "health"? No, most of them wanna look good, probably to attract girls. If there was a pill that would make you look ripped but give you no health gains most people would take it. What's "real" anyway?
/r/seduction16/01/20 05:10 AM
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That's fucking autistic lmao. This is what gives "negs" a bad name. ​ The point of push pull is to mix it up so she doesn't get bored with all just the same shit. It's not to actually offend her.
/r/seduction16/01/20 02:58 AM
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Yeah salsa is good fun anyway. Just don't do traditional "game" there, because people find it super weird (just social circle game).
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:49 AM
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It's so they can look at your Instagram and see how cool you are and if you're actually as good looking as they remember. When they think "did I actually wanna date this guy" they just check out the insta.
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:34 AM
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I did a lot at uni, but there's often postings at your local library and stuff (this is very hit and miss) and meetup.com (this hasn't succeeded much for me, cause it's easymode tons of guys and not many girls). Pretty much anything that gives you a shared interest with the girl and allows you to build status in the group. If you can go to conventions for work, companies usually hire a good looking girl, a tall white dude, and an actual tech. You can usually bang the good looking girls pretty ea…
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:33 AM
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Yeah, except you get to choose the girl, and have less clients than usual. So dating < toyboy < prostitution <marriage (all involve some exchange of resources).
/r/seduction16/01/20 01:27 AM
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Like he drives to where they live, they bang, and they pay for food or chuck a few dollars his way so he can get lunch or w/e.
/r/seduction15/01/20 01:51 PM
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You've done this a ton already. The pattern is: Ask for advice, get it, and then go "no that's too hard it's hopeless". If you're in both a bad situation, and you don't want to take any actions to improve it, then yeah there's no hope. You're saying: how to I compete against other guys, but I'm unwilling to change myself to get an edge in any area, and I lose in attractiveness against the guys who are competing based on attractiveness. What do I do.
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:58 PM
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Depends on how you play it. The girls I bang know 100% that this is going to be a hookup, or a fwb, but nothing serious emotionally is going to get into the relationship from the get go. You have to manage their expectations well. How are you meeting these girls? You also can't lay the pipe too well. You're aiming for 6-7/10 sex, enough that they come back but not enough that they get clingy. Because of this, also avoid virgins. Unfortunately I've got actual antisocial personality disorder so I …
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:40 PM
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Tbh for me there's "would fuck" and "wouldn't fuck". I think it's a waste of time to see if she's "above your level" and shit. I mean, pussy's pussy, feels the same as long as you're not disgusted by her. Uglier chicks probably also try harder. My mate who loves to bang 40-50 year olds gets laid once a week easily + pocket money and thinks the sex is better than with younger girls. Note, this is different for relationships, but those are easier to enter with hot chicks than hookups imo.
/r/seduction15/01/20 10:57 AM
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Yep 100%, you have to be congruent as well. It's just it's not as simple as "do all these basic ass things that everyone does and you'll get women". If "what you are" is a loser currently, you need to change that even if you're not going to "be yourself". I'd say in every skill at the start you're pretty aimless. It's in gaining skill that things become fun and effortless. The same applies for seducing women imo.
/r/seduction15/01/20 07:11 AM
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No, I'm pointing out why it's terrible advice. The vast majority of men I know, who are trying to get women do all of the above. Many of them also have a good education and job. However, they don't know what to do to make an interaction with a woman go smoothly. They don't know how to ask her out, what to talk about and how to do it, what dates to go on, when to escalate, when to back off, etc etc. Consequently, they get no women. Social skills, and it's subset seduction skills are a skill, and …
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:56 AM
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There's actually a few PUA boys who hang around ABC's quite a bit. Melbourne usually goes in waves, there's periods where heaps of people are doing it and periods where there's less.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:37 AM
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"Just be yourself bro. I do these real basic things and get girls, if you don't get girls you must be dirty, dress like a hobo, be a fat fuck, or be mentally ill". Nice advice man.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:34 AM
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Good job. It's great you had fun and you're pushing yourself to do new experiences. Also keep in mind nightclubs and bars are pushed as "The place" to meet girls, but they're actually fairly terrible (Unless you're a tall good looking guy) since there's usually more guys, you can't really communicate because of the music, and you've probably got no status in the scene. After going out for a while, you can see that they can be fun, but are ultimately somewhere lots of people go because it feels l…
/r/seduction13/01/20 12:03 PM
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I was fucking a past girlfriend. She said "No", so of course I stopped immediately. She looks at my like I'm an idiot and she says "why did you stop". After talking to her I realized she just liked to say "no" and stuff because it made her feel less slutty, and we decided that if she said "Red" I'd stop for real but "no" was all g. Also, most first date hookups they'll tell you "I'm not going to fuck you", "I never do this", etc. You smile, agree, escalate to where they're comfortable with. They…
/r/seduction11/01/20 11:26 PM
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Really? The majority of the sex I have is first date sex. I don't want long relationships, but they tend to just be normal girls (lots of working holiday, exchange students).
/r/seduction11/01/20 11:22 PM
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Might be different and ineffective, but I just ask them beforehand when it's obvious they're gonna hook up and it's calibrated. Cause most of the girls I get are 18-20, I usually ask about a past relationship, talk about if it was just wholesome going to the movies etc. Girl will usually volunteer they did something sexual if she's into me. Lead conversation into what she likes in bed, favorite positions, spanking, spit or swallow etc. Pretty much only way to find out is to ask tbh. Alternative …
/r/seduction11/01/20 11:19 PM
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You could just read Mark Manson's "The subtle art of not giving a fuck", which is literally the OG text. https://markmanson.net/not-giving-a-fuck Also a lot of people think "I don't give a fuck" means you totally disregard everyone else's opinion. If you're in polite company they'll just shun you socially for that, if you're not you'll get beaten up.
/r/seduction11/01/20 11:14 PM
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If you're a useless sack of shit confidence doesn't matter. It's such a platitude. "Oh you failed? Must have not been confident enough". Imagine how stupid you'd think someone is if you applied that thinking toward getting a job.
/r/seduction11/01/20 02:42 AM
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Why this post downvoted, this is a much more quality thing to talk about than: "How do I talk to the cute girl in chemistry class" "Just be confident bro" threads we usually get.
/r/seduction11/01/20 12:18 AM
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Lmao what's this weakness shit. "Sorry dude I'm sick, I'm gonna sleep" "Yeah sure" If someone thinks that's weak, that's on them. That's like basic human communication.
/r/seduction10/01/20 08:09 PM
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Fix what, talking to a ton of people or making proper friends? The problem with social interaction is, it's a skill. People call other people charismatic but it's really a series of learned behaviors. Most people develop these skills the most growing up, but some people (I'm assuming you) tend to have stunted social skills. This might be due to getting bullied at school or parental neglect, or underlying mental illness (autism), or just lack of interest, but they have a lot of catchup to do. It …
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:09 PM
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My boy's gotten stabbed for me. We've been pulled in by the cops a few times and no one ever says anything. Would 100% give a kidney to a few of them if they needed it. I mean, I guess there is some element of the prison dilemma and game theory in there (if you snitch or run away everyone in the social group is going to shun or try to hurt you) but I have no doubt that people would die for each other. There's tons of examples of people being self-sacrificing even for random strangers, let alone …
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:51 PM
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Yeah, but them knowing that it's much more profitable to keep being friends with you is a nice feeling. If you don't have one or two buddies that you've nearly died with, will die for, and are pretty sure they'd do the same for you I feel bad for you. Much more important than getting pussy.
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:10 PM
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Oh yeah standard I mean. I've done tango and I have no talent (or the instructor isn't so good) for it. The place I'm going to has courses for both latin and ballroom, but they're fairly expensive so I can only choose one. I'll probably choose latin then.
/r/seduction05/01/20 03:22 PM
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It tends to depend on how much pressure you and her are under. If it's just normal suburbia where you've both got stable jobs and boring lives? Feel free to be a pussy, you might get cheated on but it's fairly relaxed. Live in a low socioeconomic status neighborhood and keep getting broken into? Need to pull 16 hour day 7 days a week to keep the family fed and mortgage payed? Someone in the family just died? You best bet if you fold you're gonna lose your woman, at any age. Most people who don't…
/r/seduction05/01/20 10:30 AM
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Would you recommend I just do latin instead of contemporary? The guy I learnt a bit of ballroom off is around my height, but I heard the best contemporary dancers tend to be tall and latin probably would help salsa and bachata more. I have found however, the cuter girls tend to do contemporary (I love tall girls).
/r/seduction05/01/20 10:23 AM
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Oh fair enough, I didn't know there was much social ballroom dancing (my friends just do competitive). I going to start next year so should be fun. I do find if you can crush a performance (stand up, speeches, dancing, music) tons of girls in the audience are automatically attracted.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:22 AM
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Depends on how hot you are. If you're super hot you'll get girls dm'ing you on facebook and instagram. Tinder is also really low effort. If you're just hot then yeah you need to actually talk to women yeah.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:19 AM
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Feels bad being strongly attracted to girls taller than you mang 6'0 + girls are where the legs are at.
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:13 AM
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Ei my mans. 5'8'' east asian as well. Salsa and Bachata ezpz meet women. How the hell do you leverage ballroom tho. You have one partner for competitions mostly and usually just end up dating them right?
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:10 AM
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Nope, I don't want a relationship at all so I just maintain a few fwb at a time. The sextoy thing is kinda accurate tho, because that's the only thing that women offer that men don't. I get all of the emotional validation I need from friends. ​ How do you get "You want a mom" from "You should require as little emotional support from a woman because she will see it as emotional labor and resent you for it". What this guy said is he can't always be "an emotional pillar of strength, masculinity, an…
/r/seduction05/01/20 06:04 AM
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Sometimes chicks just wanna thot around and get fucked by good looking dudes tho. You don't treat a girl like that with the usual manners, cause she finds it boring.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:57 PM
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My first girlfriend dumped me the week my grandmother died and my dad lost his job. Didn't cry once to her. I just told her I was feeling kinda sad and to give me a week or so space. Get cheated on.
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:55 PM
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Nah fam. You HAVE to be the emotional pillar of strength, masculinity and control 99% of the time. What sort of woman wants a guy who folds when the stakes get high? Or breaks down emotionally after someone dies? Keeping it inside isn't healthy no, but men have been doing it for all of history for a reason. Now days women are telling men to "open up more" but that's because there's not that many clutch moments in life where you need to step up. In those moments you have to be a man. Of course yo…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:53 PM
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It also depends on how saturated the city is. A few years back, where I lived had around 30 pick up artists asking 500ish girls out each every day in around 3km by 3km area. You could see girls getting less receptive in the area and girls I knew were complaining about having to pass through it. It's like getting handed the flyer to a restaurant. Most of the time you don't really care, sometimes it's a great deal. However, if you're getting 10 flyers walking through the city then you get sick of …
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:25 PM
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Friendzone is fine in college. You make some female friends, they invite you to a party, and you meet a ton of other cute girls who you bang. If they like you as a person they even set you up. What isn't fine is being a creepy pussy low status male. This makes them not want to set you up because they look bad to the girl they set you up with. I get the less attractive male friends I have go "set me up bro". No, because you autistically talk about boring shit for five minutes at a time and are go…
/r/seduction04/01/20 06:22 PM
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Then just capitalize on one of the girls who thinks you're cute? Going out is an inherently pretty hard environment. That's why guys get smashed or do pinga's to lose their inhibitions. That's a bad idea since it leads to fights and doing dumb shit. The guys who I know who do do well usually have the following: 6'3'' or over Model teir face Muscular The rest of the average-slightly above average dudes get lucky maybe 1/5 times because the girl was horny. If you're 19 and actually attractive just…
/r/seduction03/01/20 09:07 PM
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I don't understand how being entitled translates to wanting meaning and responsibility? I haven't gone much past reading his book, but it seemed like 100% self help. Of course it's going to be "No shit" advice, because that's what self help books are. Pretty much the only quote that people who aren't that invested in him know about him is "Clean your room". The seratonin thing might be right, you're intentionally missing the point. "Of course you're going to be unhappy if you're a low status los…
/r/seduction03/01/20 09:00 PM
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How do you know you're attractive? The vast majority of guys I know rate themselves above average. The actual best looking guys absolutely destroy it (will get a girl 90% of the time going out if they're trying, without learning and pickup). I'd say make sure you take care of all your fundamentals. Hit the gym. Also, bars and clubs are a shit meme fed to us by club owners that they're a good place to get laid. Tinder is slightly better: you're not getting laid but at least you didn't pay $20 cov…
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:27 PM
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All of the traits have good points to them, but are real bad if you overdo them. People with naturally dark triad traits need to tone them down as much as possible to try to fit in with society. Especially with the Machiavellian stuff, people need to realize that you need to let the other person win every now and then. Always playing for maximum efficiency in the short term is usually pretty shit, but you see a lot of "manipulators" do it. People do this edgy "I'm a psychopath badboy" shit becau…
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:09 PM
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Narcissists don't have a good level of introspection. This makes it harder for them to improve at stuff. I will legit do something, think it's 100 times better than what someone else did, but have everyone say that what the other guy did was better. I'll think all of them are wrong. I'll usually go with the group consensus and take on criticism on the good point of what the other guy did, but it becomes a problem when you don't and insist on getting your own way (I used to do this when I was you…
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:05 PM
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I think most human beings are pretty lonely in general. What's the average number of actual close friends people have at one time? I think it was something like 2-3 at a time right? All of my closest friends I got from going through fairly extreme situations (nearly dying going camping together, getting chased by the cops) or spending tons of time together doing sport or school. I can't see how I could get really close friends when I'm working and the most I do with those guys is get a beer, or …
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:59 PM
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Let's say you're a millionaire. You want a meaningful relationship. You can get a huge amount of women. Some of these are attractive. You don't know if they're gonna split if you stop giving them money. You can be lonely pretty easily. You don't know who you can trust. However, if you're just looking to bang hot chicks it's golden.
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:44 PM
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Lmao lobster fetishist. Let's take a random line (most animals have a dophamine reward system that creates social hierarchies, lobsters have it and they diverged from humans ages ago) and use that as a criticism. "Hey, you should probably make sure your fundamentals are sorted before you try to do hard stuff. Also most guys need responsibility, meaning and male role models" REEEEE A lot of stuff isn't accurate yeah, but his advice for your depressed loser guy is really good. He's also most likel…
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:36 PM
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You can have advantages over other guys. Those are usually partly earned and partly genetic. You leverage these to get women and you should be confident about these. However, you are not inherently special in an objective sense. You are not the main character of this novel, and you will not get your ideal women if you are a mediocre man. God does not have a special plan for you. To the majority of the women you're attracted to, you're just another one of a sea of faces they see every day. You sh…
/r/seduction02/01/20 06:12 AM
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No perfect 10's exist. Maybe the most beautiful woman in the world to you might be a 10, but that's it. It's a logarithmic scale. The top 10% are 7.5ish one the scale, and dating them is pretty easy (you just need to also be in the top 10%). If you say a girl is a perfect 10 you run out of numbers to use. ​ A 9 is the most beautiful girl you'd meet in a month of walking around a crowded city. Could easily model professionally. Maybe top 0.05 % in attractiveness. Could get tens of thousands of do…
/r/seduction02/01/20 05:37 AM
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Do you watch much comedy? Look at the jokes, and why they work. See if you can twist them to stuff you can say. Look at the funniest guy in a social situation, and try to figure out why what he said work. If you want to get real good write some standup and try to perform it. Also try to understand the different types of humor. I have a collection of stories that I've practices that go from 1-5 minutes and are hilarious, because I've refined the shit out of them and I know how to adapt them to di…
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:44 AM
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Yeah, pretty much this. You CAN get a top teir woman if you're a top teir man. If you're a confident guy who works at Macca's and is average looking, you're not going to get a model looking girl if she has confident guys who are make bank and are better looking. Confidence and self-esteem should be a byproduct of knowing you've put in the work to be as attractive as possible. If you've covered all of your bases and she rejects you, you couldn't have really changed anything so it's just bad luck.
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:29 AM
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Yep, we definitely need stronger male role models in schools. I feel bad for boys who don't play sport and don't have a strong father figure in their lives.
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:23 AM
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Nah, most people largely date people who have similar status as them. Big status difference can work, but are a lot harder. It doesn't make you a terrible person to think that a person is significantly worse in relationship quality than the average person you can date and not get a relationship because of it. I agree that it's worth giving it a go, but your most realistic chance of dating beautiful women is to be in the same social circle with similar or slightly higher status.
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:21 AM
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I'd also say, a lot of people say "just get confidence" You're generally confident if you have your shit together. Make sure you're actually good at stuff, take care of yourself, etc and you'll be confident because you have a bit behind you. If you're a druggie high school dropout loser then you SHOULDN'T be confident. Mentality is important, but so is actually being an attractive person.
/r/seduction02/01/20 02:17 AM
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I know it's a meme "just have good hygene bro" and bone structure matters a lot. However, I see guys out there who actually have greasy hair and oily skin. That's also partly genetic but you can take care of that. Also "I'm so shy" is usually an excuse.
/r/seduction30/12/19 06:50 AM
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Thin isn't that good either. You should aim to be at least a bit fit. A lot of fat people wear baggier clothes to hide the fat, but this looks like shit. Thin people look like they're wearing baggy clothes cause they're thin. Also another thing is layering and the color wheel, but that's a bit fancy. If you can't find anything your size it's often good to buy a $20 shirt then get it tailored.
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:13 PM
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For getting women? I'm around 5'7-8'' so I wear lifts so I'm 5'10''. Daily skincare routine, 40 minutes gym 5 days a week (visible abs and pecs). Face is honestly very good naturally, but above skincare, good tongue posture, and body fat make me look even better. Clothes are all from K-mart but fit very well. Obviously hygiene is on point (flossing, cologne, etc). I'd say looks wise this makes me around top 20% (with up to around top 30% not actually putting in much effort). I'm also asian so I'…
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:09 PM
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Yeah of course looks matter. If you go into a club, you've essentially made the competition "Who's better looking". It's like tinder. Some people are naturally better than you based off just genetics. No matter how hard you train you'll never run faster than Usain Bolt can run without training. No matter how hard you study you'll probably never leave your name behind science. However, you can still usually get good enough to be better than 90% of the population, which is all you need.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:13 PM
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Also, asking women out isn't even that big a deal. I don't understand how so many people can be so chickenshit about it. Is it because they're really sheltered?
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:08 PM
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Dressing well is also having a decent body. You want your clothes to fit. $20 clothes that fit properly > $150 clothes that don't. Your clothes fit better if you're also fit. After a certain point you can wear w/e.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:07 PM
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Nah, it's right in a certain way. If you're past a certain point you're fucked and you should probably get other coping mechanisms (bottom 0.1%). The thing is, this point is like if you're 5'3'' 70 IQ with an ugly face + mental condition.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:05 PM
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5'8'' fucked two different girls this week and plan to hook up on new years eve budddiiiieeee. Fat is also a choice.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:03 PM
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That help with girls : dancing (latin street), stand up comedy, gym. That help in general: Programming. You can save so much time by automating the mundane shit in your life. Cooking, mediation.
/r/seduction27/12/19 12:37 PM
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Lmao MSTOW.
/r/seduction24/12/19 06:03 AM
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Yeah, lots of guys approach better looking girls.
/r/seduction23/12/19 09:21 AM
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Ah, I wouldn't send recordings of your voice to strangers. There was a scam where guys would call you, and ask if "**** is home". They record the yes, and then try to get into your accounts by using a recording of your voice.
/r/seduction23/12/19 09:20 AM
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Yeah this is a good comment. If she likes talking to you (you make her laugh, she feels less stressed, etc) she's gonna want to text you. If it's boring she's not going to. Yet again it's just a "provide value"
/r/seduction18/12/19 08:46 AM
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I'm 180 at 5'9''. It's doable with muscle and frame, but probably 160ish for you. Gym is good for general health and stuff, so it diet and sleep. You'll feel better getting them in order even if you don't get women (cause your body feels healthier). Women are real interested in tech if you make interesting stuff and present it to them. For example, I like making bots in python. Instead of the technical aspects of doing it, I talk about how you can buy tons of cheap shit before anyone else can. A…
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:45 AM
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Do you wear lifts? There's also a chance they're just saying that as a socially acceptable excuse to bail on the date. They're not gonna bail if they actually find you attractive (and they'd find any top teir guy facially who's short attractive). If you're face, body, and height are below average, do you offer anything else in any field? Are you funnier than average, richer than average, etc etc? Do you have any social circles that you can leverage to get women? Any areas where you're exceptiona…
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:50 AM
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5'9'' isn't even short tho lmao. Yeah, but it's not my "friend" it's "me". The stats are mainly for sites that women can choose men by height. I suck on those. I do much better on tinder (no height listing) and real life. Of course being actually short (5'4'' and under) is a huge disadvantage.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:34 AM
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Nah, it's not really a prerequisite I've been with plenty of women who're taller than me. I've also been with women who apparently have a "6' only" or "white guys only" policies. If they wanna bang, they'll justify it somehow. It is definitely an advantage, I been dumped by a 5'10'' girl for being shorter who was otherwise a perfect fit, but not undo-able (also 5'9'' is pretty much average in the west, so it's not even a disadvantage compared to the general population). If I'm feeling real despe…
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:26 AM
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A good youtube for this is charisma on command. The guy analyses lots of celebritites and what makes them charismatic. You have to be able to differentiate what scenes are specifically set up to make them seem cool tho.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:17 AM
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People usually say stuff like that when they don't understand social groups very well tbh. If you know what to look for there's usually constant small battles for status. It hurts your relationships if you're bad at it, yes. In that case it's better to just stick to social norms.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:13 AM
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Yeah pretty much, clubs are just a meat market where girls can't see your face that well. I do get makeouts and stuff but the only people who really slay are 6'3'' white guys in my experience. You can't really make it up with game cause you can't talk. The only times I've pulled in nightgame are girls walking home or at the kebab shop, not in the club itself. Ironically I'm a decently high level athlete but I don't look the part because of my height rip.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:09 AM
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Yep, that's the "social norms" thing. You can either become one of the leaders, which allows you to violate more of the social norms, or you can be lower in the social hierarchy and have to follow more of the rules. If you try to force the dominance and break the norms without knowing what you're doing you get shunned. Having positive interactions and strong relationships with other members of the group offers value (if not done horribly) so raises status within the group.
/r/seduction18/12/19 05:07 AM
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A trick is that "personality" isn't really a thing. IMO it's split into two main parts. > Social dominance >Adherence to social norms. If you're socially dominant, people will consider you "confident", "funny", etc etc. If people don't you generally offer little value. Value is like money, status, social connections,humor, leadership, etc. You want to be as socially dominant as possible. You can also violate more social norms with more social dominance. Even if you're a complete bully, if you're…
/r/seduction17/12/19 03:00 PM
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Yeah, I have no problem getting women. That's the problem. My intentions aren't, because I fundamentally don't value other people much. I can turn on "fake" empathy and cry and stuff at funerals, but only because it's the expected response and I can turn that off very easily. All I want is to do is just enjoy myself. I don't see the point in trying to become a better person than I am today. Hence "bad personality". I'm not particularly bothered by it, it's just objectively true.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:56 PM
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Yeah pretty much. Anti-social personality disorder. I don't really care about other people except family and a very small amount of friends, and even then it's mostly due to convenience. I think I might have un-diagnosed Narcissism as well. I'm not trying to be edgy, I follow societal rules as much as I can and I've developed coping mechanisms to fake empathy, but I feel like my range of emotion is fairly narrow. I'm think I'm objectively very confident charming and interesting, but my personali…
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:26 PM
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Just general racist, sexism, abelism, and homophobia for me.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:12 PM
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"Nazi tinder experiment"(Only matched with minorities on purpose) "Child molester tinder experiment"
/r/seduction14/12/19 12:26 AM
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James bond game is pretty shit tbh. He's written to be charming but I wouldn't recommend it.
/r/seduction13/12/19 01:06 PM
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Except throat cancer, most forms of herpes lmao.
/r/seduction13/12/19 01:00 PM
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The witty stuff is shitty. That's not getting any of the guys laid. I can send you some examples of dates I've gotten (I've got around 7 right now where I just have to finalize the date) if you want? I consider myself decently smart (good university, good test scores across the board with low effort) and have decently smart friends. The ones who have good social skills can change their humor to the level where the other person enjoys the conversation, even if that person is a tradie, a woman, or…
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:24 AM
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A problem you might have is, the 6'2'' attractive dudes kind of have their pick of the litter when they go to bars, since it's fairly rare (6'2'' is top 5%, attractive I'm assuming around top 30%) and a pretty common desire. The ones that do approach either go for the easiest high percentage option, or the hottest girls in the room. If you're looking for casual sex, it's going to be pretty easy (just show them you're option 1). If you're looking for a relationship, kind of hard to do at bars, be…
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:06 AM
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It's kinda like a binary search tree. I'm making it up, but I've been in similar situations enough to know what works and what doesn't. I can also branch off to other things if it's not working really easily. However, I've got the main routes planned out decently well and try to get back onto them if possible. For this, I have around 4 date locations that I know inside out.
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:57 AM
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Or even better: "I don't know if the welfare's come in yet".
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:53 AM
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Of course you get more sex in a committed relationship. If I'm trying hard, I'll mabye get a date a week (while maintaining my life and not just being 100% pickup). I'll bang mabye 70% of those (sex 1.4ish times a week). If I have a girlfriend, I'm gonna have sex at least 3-4 times a week. Of course, things might be different if you're an uber slayer king that fucks 6 different girls a week I guess.
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:40 AM
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A lot of guys don't understand fit. Their shirts look decently pricy, but if it doesn't fit you well (shoulder seam on shoulder) it's gonna look worse than a k-mart shirt (all of my clothes). Don't go for the "premade" real pricy outfits from retailers either, if you're a normal guy you can wear fairly generic stuff and look above average if you've got a decent fit. Fit is a lot easier to do if you're a bit more muscular tho. Also basic layering and contrast takes like 5 minutes to figure out an…
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:35 AM
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Oh they look nice tho.
/r/seduction11/12/19 01:32 AM
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What you first realize is that you're in hardmode. I think the biggest takeaway you can get from schooling is developing your social skills, and you may have not done that that well (the bullies and popular kids tend to do pretty well with the girls). You have quite a bit of catching up to do if they're bad, because social skills snowball a lot. I think that seduction is the least of your worries, and you should pick up a hobby to make friends with. Having a sense of community is also pretty gre…
/r/seduction10/12/19 11:38 AM
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For the gym, you definitely might be over training. I mean 45 minutes for a beginner WITH breaks (4-5 exercises), mabye an hour for an intermediate lifter, which I'd consider myself. I can bench around 225. It sounds like you might be doing too many exercises and be hitting too many parts too much, I'd recommend finding a program that follows your goals and sticking to it. I'd also say 6% is a bit low bodyfat. The real lean cardio monster also isn't the best (130 would be a good weight if you're…
/r/seduction10/12/19 08:50 AM
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Ok, I have no idea if you sound better in real life. The below is my general experience about people who talk like you type. A huge turn off for girls is that guy who takes himself real serious and has to always be right and talking. When I'm at parties, some of the smarter or more successful lads tend to just go on and on about some boring shit that jacks off their ego. Everyone kinda nods along out of politeness. The same happens on dates quite a bit according to female friends. A 30-45 minute…
/r/seduction10/12/19 07:02 AM
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Nah homie. T.terriblepersonwithbadattitude.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:53 AM
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The way you type makes you seem like a pain in the ass to talk to tbh.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:51 AM
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This was a few years back (2017) but I remember sitting down at Melbourne central and just watching a group of about 6 guys hit on literally every girl that walked past. I saw something similar in Bourke street mall, and I'm pretty sure there is a "crew" of about 20 that have a facebook group. I think some of them might even live together. Are you just starting out PUA? If you want to get better at asking women out and more comfortable physically I'd recommend dancing.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:42 AM
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A lot of PUA stuff does work, but a lot of it is also bullshit. Exposure * retention/attraction = dates/fucks. Shotgun style pickup gives you a huge amount of exposure, but lowers the retention that girls give guys in general. If you have a ton of guys doing similar approaches, it pretty much sinks the success of all of the guys doing it. It's very effective if no one else is doing it. A lot of seduction techniques also increase how attractive you are. Unfortunatly, if you're dateless a decade a…
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:38 AM
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There's a ton of PUA in Melbourne, to the point where it was plague levels 2 years back lol. Go ABC on Saturday or walk around Melb central to spot a few.
/r/seduction10/12/19 06:27 AM
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I get way less matches than you (mabye 2-3 a day) but I get a much higher hitrate, which is kinda weird.
/r/seduction09/12/19 08:43 AM
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Tinder isn't based off ELO anymore, because it was too skewed (guys stopped buying boosts and gold)
/r/seduction09/12/19 08:40 AM
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Yeah, I'm basing that off someone who's never touched a weight or played much sport in his life. It's also the body women go to when they're talking about guys they want to fuck. Kiiiiinda "jacked" but not that impressive.
/r/seduction08/12/19 02:11 PM
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Oh sorry, I'll make sure to refer to him using his full name next time.
/r/seduction08/12/19 02:07 PM
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Nah, way too lean + muscular imo for natty (especially in the timeframe he got it). Mind you, even female bikini models now take more roids than bodybuilders used to. I know quite a few guys who are similar size, but no where near the tone he has. Dude in the video's body will have 99% of girls salivating if the face is good, and it's all your really need (it also helps his face is 10/10).
/r/seduction08/12/19 01:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG_Nwp0wZc0 This man was taken as a sex symbol for his body. His body is maybe a year of solid eating and gym (I'd honestly say just my body looks better). Nothing special. To get captain america level you need roids tho.
/r/seduction08/12/19 12:13 PM
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Helps a ton, if you leverage it. I'm around 5'9'' (175cm) 180 pounds, mabye 15% bodyfat. If I slim down to around 12% bodyfat you can see the cheekbones become more prominant, and the abs start to show. Everything else also looks a bit more toned. Any heavier than I am now and my face looks a lot worse. However, body looks pretty much the same in both cases (pretty "average") I notice when I'm dancing with girls, if I'm at 12% bodyfat and they can feel the individual muscles their hands stay on …
/r/seduction08/12/19 12:12 PM
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That's the context of what was said. It's not a trick, you're getting triggered about a guy bragging about getting laid online, in the context of someone saying you can't get laid online. What narrative am I going for (I don't think you know when to use that phrase).
/r/seduction07/12/19 09:29 AM
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Firstly, you're gonna get ghosted, I'm gonna get ghosted. You can't help it. No tinder plan I've made has survived over 2 weeks. Try to meet asap, preferably within the next week (but don't be pushy). I usually ask what they want as a filter. They usually say some fluff ("I don't know", "looking for a boyfriend", etc etc) and then ask what you want. I say pretty much the above (An excuse to get ice cream, someone to try out a new food place, etc) and also add in "hookups are good as well"). If t…
/r/seduction07/12/19 01:17 AM
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Are you seriously that bad at reading comprehension. I'll say it one more time. >Topic is getting laid on tinder is too much effort, nightclubs are better >guy says "nah, can get laid very often off tinder pretty easily. This week, I'm having a good streak off it and I've gotten laid every day" >Stop bragging. It's literally the only situation where an I have sex answer is actually completely relevant and appropriate.
/r/seduction07/12/19 01:08 AM
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I usually just do something I already want to do (eat icecream, go to a gallery of a cool artist, try out a new food place) and then invite them along so I have someone to go with. They pay for themselves. Messages usually don't go over 15 lines before we agree to meet up or stop talking. Enough to know I'm not a serial killer, but not enough to get bored. What do you mean effort on the date? I actually enjoy getting to know people (extrovert) so it's just something fun to do with the afternoon.…
/r/seduction07/12/19 01:04 AM
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Pretty much, it was 100% also a brag, but the message was "nah, online dating still works in my experience". I can see 3 or 4 days in a row being very plausible if you just set it up over a few weeks or were new in a big enough city (which is enough for "literally every day this week, since it's Friday). Not every day, just this week.
/r/seduction06/12/19 08:41 PM
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Girls acting like that is usually because they're not interested. They politely give an excuse because they've been socialised to act non-confrontational. If this is the case you need to be more attractive I guess. EDM is a very different environment also, girls kiss people because they think it's funny and they're on molly. If a girl is on the fence, the activity has to be something she's interested in. I usually tell them how good this burger place and icecream is near my place. I then ask the…
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:56 PM
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Low effort. You're on the tram, and you just swipe and message to kill the time. This nets you a date every week or two.
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:48 PM
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It's debatably worse for asian dudes my mans :( Some girls at least get tricked by the media saying "BBC", "primal", "good at sex" but we just get "small dick", "responsible", "good at math". Both pretty shitty stereotypes but at least one helps you get laid.
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:41 PM
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"I think online dating is a waste of time" "Not in my experience, it's still working for me" "/rIhavesex"
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:28 PM
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Honestly, look at what people do for sales. The negotiating tactics transfer very well.
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:25 PM
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I've had the exact opposite experience. I've gotten laid 20 ish times or so times off tinder after a year and a half of using it, with 400ish matches (college town). The girls also tend to be 1-2 points lower than the girls I'd usually date (4-6) but pussy feels the same anyway and I haven't spent more than $5 a date (and that girl traveled an hour to see me so she deserved it). I'm taking the above to mean I'm attractive, but I absolute bomb at clubs. I KNOW I'm better at dancing than 90% of th…
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:24 PM
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5'8'', got 3 tinder dates schedules in 2 weeks or so. 1 will probably flake statistically, but still not really.
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:16 PM
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Bachata is godmode to meet women tbh. If nothing, asking random women to dance becomes nothing. However, you need to be decently socially calibrated. A woman smiling and touching you would in most cases be an IOI, but is absolutly normal in dancing. The more sensual dances are pretty notorious for creepy guys.
/r/seduction06/12/19 03:15 PM
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Why are you confident?
/r/seduction04/12/19 04:22 AM
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A lot of girls feel uncomfortable with nudes because of sharing on the internet. From their perspective, what does it give them? They can risk the above and mabye get compliments about their body and a dick pic, or they can have their photo shared on the internet. If you can make it fun for them there's a chance tho.
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:55 PM
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For hairy chest: Step 1: Buy a razor. Step2: shave chest. For abs: Step 1: Eat properly Step 2: Work out. Note, the above tips only work if you're fairly attractive, and have a decently jacked body. Seduction is very similar to sales: you show off the good points of your products. My photo's show off my face and my body as much as possible. However, I'm only 5'8''ish so I make sure to avoid anything that indicates my height (which is average, but still a negative on tinder). If you're below aver…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:12 AM
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Just go to places where girls are doing hobbies. These girls are by default interesting (since same hobby).
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:37 AM
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There's high value humor and there's jester humor. People who want something from you or see you as high status laugh even if you say something that's not funny. People who try to make people laugh so they can get validated for being the "funny guy" aren't high status. I think girls go "that guy made me laugh a lot and I slept with him, I must like funny guys". While it's more "he was confident and attractive, so I laughed at his stuff because I was attracted to him.
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:21 PM
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Hey, dancer here. I feel it's hella weird to hit on girls you're dancing with. Especially if they're attractive, isn't the entire point of dancing to interact in an intimate but platonic way?
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:52 PM
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I'm not saying don't do it. A lot of them have super low self esteem. If you worked as a janitor at a modelling agency, you'll be pulling high quality pussy. I'm just saying it doesn't make you unique to hit on exceptionally pretty girls: they get IOI's from pretty much every male the interact with, and hit on mabye a dozen times a week. If you really want them, make sure you because what they'd probably want, "average dude who has enough balls to ask me out" doesn't stand out.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:47 PM
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If you are, I'd recommend just feeding right into that niche. You'll probably tend to get younger and much older women tho (I'm in my twenties, 25-30 year old women avoid me, 18-20 and 35+ women love me). I find a ton of guys just try to impress other dudes (huge guys at the gym) instead of doing what attracts women. Jawline and frame grow until around 24. Make sure you're hitting the gym and eating properly.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:33 PM
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She's talking to 8 different guys right now. A good chance is one of the other guys asked her out, or she just whimsically lose interest. You didn't do anything wrong, you were just unlucky.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:30 PM
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Are you escalating. For example, I had a girl on a riverbank. Talking about botflies (mammalian parasite). Pulled her closer while still talking about maggots eating animals alive. Kept strong eye contact. Kissed her then resumed talking about them. If you're not escalating at the right times girls get bored. Conversation doesn't really matter that much.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:29 PM
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Literally all in the pictures fam. Do the following: One good professional front on picture. Not smiling, perfect lighting. Casual setting if possible. Shirtless picture with abs. Again casual (playing sport, beach, surfing). Preferably wet so there is a more contour on body. Picture of yourself with some shorter friends in a group photo. Mabye at a party. Picture of yourself doing something with mainstream popularity, like a sport or hiking. Any picture with an animal. The above got me a few hu…
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:26 PM
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Around 5'6'' height to 5'9-10'' (big one). Jawline went from fairly oval-ish to pronounced cheekbones and hollow cheeks. Got a lot wider. Brow ridge got a bit more masculine as well. Still can't grow beard. Went from mates telling me I look like a horse to random girls telling me I'm pretty. I also chew gum and keep my tongue in the right posture just in case it gives me jawline gains. Frame (clavicular length) got a lot wider. I think over 50 cm last time I checked. This gives a natural "v" eve…
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:16 PM
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Or alternatively: Learn any south american partner dance, so you can lead body movement. Instead of spinning her around she's a helicopter in Rambo, actually move her to the music. This works well because every other guy there is bobbing up and down in the "please lay me" dance. If she's interested move your face close to hers, then move it away after she goes for the kiss. Do this when it's appropriate with the music. Kiss her on the forehead to tease her, then kiss her for real when she get's …
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:07 PM
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There is a big difference between "I'll dance with you" compliance and "I'm gonna make you a helicopter" compliance. Lots of dumb shit works in clubs tho, but if it's just a kiss you can usually do that right off the bat.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:04 PM
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It's because for their whole life they've been taught this "be funny, girls love a sense of humor" bullshit. This leads them to act like jesters for the girl.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:01 PM
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Actually figuring out how to dance. It's much more fun to actually move to the music than to bob up and down like some sort of bird.
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:00 PM
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Just do it mang. 9's and 10's have literally been turning guys down their whole life, so they're usually a lot nicer about it than worse looking girls. A lot of them also tend to be super insecure, so chances arn't too bad.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:57 PM
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Lmao alpha energy. "Just seduce her with your ki bro".
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:56 PM
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I see this "Hot girls are never hit on because guys are intimidated" quite a bit. Know a few model ish looking girls from dancing and part time job (nightlife). Always getting hit on by a wide spread of the male population. They also tend to date exactly what they're looking for (looks, money, emotional tampon). They can have pretty specific standards because they have a very fast throughput of guys trying to date.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:52 PM
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Yep. Hit late puberty, became much better looking. Gained weight because I wasn't playing sport 5 times a week (more muscle) and could hit the gym. Personality same, mostly just looks.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:48 PM
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If you're actually top 5% looks just set up an instagram and follow girls. You'll have them messaging and asking for sex. Again, top 5% looks, you should get above 200-300 matches on tinder very quickly. Set up cheap (you don't pay for her) date and improve social skills.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:46 PM
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Lmao "DarkArtsPUA". You're not Tyler.
/r/seduction16/11/19 04:15 AM
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Aahahhaa goddam this subreddit has gone to shit.
/r/seduction07/11/19 02:47 AM
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I'll tell you the name of a spell to get Chad to come to your door at any time. "Tinder". If an average women wanted to sleep with a guy, if he's single 95%+ would say yes.
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:14 AM
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Oh nah, the running is just from sport. If I play a good amount (5-6 days a week) and actually sprint my knee's are stuffed after a week. I'm very bad at long distance because I'm mostly fast twitch I think (stuffed after 5-6km). I should probably get back to doing dedicated cardio tho. Actually thinking about it, running groups are probably a good way to get to know girls as well.
/r/seduction30/10/19 04:46 AM
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What amount of fat are you on? If you're doing 1500 calories I'd just stick with that and not do anything extreme tbh. You can't do unsustainable shit and expect to have enough willpower to keep doing it.
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:31 AM
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I do agree with you, if you win. It's hyper-competetive where pretty much no one knows any sprinter who isn't Usain Bolt, and that's the most popular track event. It might be different for your environment, but long distance runners tend to be thinner and less people are fans of the sport to something like football or basketball. Girls tend to gravitate to those imo. I haven't really met many girls who are long distance fans. But you only really need a few I guess, so if that's your niche I hope…
/r/seduction30/10/19 03:29 AM
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A good test is the street test. Make sure you're looking close to your best in casual street clothes, and walk down a street with a decent amount of people. Do many of the women look at you? If around 30-40% glance at you or turn around to look at you then you're probably either significantly above or below average (top or bottom 20%). If no one looks at you you're probably pretty normal.
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:11 PM
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You should be escalating physically throughout the date. At some point you'll end up sitting next to her with your arm around her waist. Just stop talking and look at her with your face reasonably close. Even if you don't kiss her, the idea will go through her mind. Tbh tho I wouldn't recommend kissing unless you're in private with her.
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:07 PM
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Where you getting the fresh mice? Lettuce has no calories if you just wanna feel like you're eating SOMETHING.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:49 PM
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If you've just started, fuck meal prep. Just get your calories but enjoy your meals. The quickest way to quit is to set unreasonable goals. On the other hand, stop eating like shit. That's a benefit in itself, as you just feel better and don't die quick. I eat a ton of eggs and bacon and meat because I love eating it, and it helps with gains. Gym also has lots of good effects for your mental health, so it's it's own reward.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:47 PM
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Society has got a huge thing about men "tricking" women to sleep with them. Women lose and men gain in this interaction. If you trick lots of women into sleeping with you you must be a villain.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:46 PM
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They tell you this. They also say no hookups.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:40 PM
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That's because he's attractive. Tinder is pretty much all attraction built from pictures. To girls on the app, you're not a person. You're a product that's competing with all of the other products trying to get her to have sex with him. This is why you distill all of your fuckable traits into pictures as well as you can. Are you asian and can you pull off the k-pop look? Target yellow fever girls. Are you black and can you get swole? Hit up that ghetto stereotype. It's unfortunate but it's how t…
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:40 PM
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Not on tinder lmao.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:30 PM
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Yeah feels bad. I'm at my best looks wise at 80 kilograms-ish of muscle, but I'm slow as fuck. If I'm 72 kilograms I look like a twink, but I can run a sub 11 100 for soccer. So it's aesthetics or actually being good. Also athletics isn't really seen as a sexy sport. You could probably leverage it in mixed sports tho? I don't know how well a long distance runner would do in most of them.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:15 PM
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Buy a longboard or go surfing. Make sure it's an environment where it looks natural to be a bit wet (makes abs look better) and it's darker so the flash gives you contrast. Get a mate to do it. It also adds appeal of "interesting" activity".
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:14 PM
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Nah, had hookups off tinder solely because I have abs. I'd say my matchrate went down by a good 50% when I removed my shirtless pic as well. You have to make it "natural" tho (Mine is longboard in the rain shirtless).
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:47 PM
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Because the major changes were just height and jawline. My personality was exactly the same in highschool and university. If I tell the same joke, something that would be ignored before now gets laughs. It makes me think that "game" is a bit of a meme, if you have normal social skills. To be honest, after sleeping with enough hot women I don't really care about looks above a certain threshold. It's not like the pussy of a hot woman feels any better than one of an average one. I feel you read tha…
/r/seduction13/07/19 04:57 AM
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Yeah, that's why it's a shitty situation. I dated a girl who left a guy, who I was objectively than in pretty much every sense, except for height and dick size. He was also "abusive". She decided to cheat on me with him, so we broke up. After that, she broke up with him really quick because she was used to what I could give her. Girls who've been with decent quality men tend to compare all of the best traits each of those men had with their next partners. This makes it pretty much impossible to …
/r/seduction12/07/19 04:25 PM
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People can tell if someone has an intent that they are trying to hide. If you really want to bang a chick, but pretend you just want to be friends, it doesn't match, and that's creepy. Also, if you do something socially uncalibrated (hit on a girl in a way that makes her feel unsafe, or makes her feel like she's going to lose status) it's also creepy.
/r/seduction12/07/19 04:16 PM
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If he's in the top 5% of guys, you can't. He WILL be able to get other women, since women tend to be attracted to the same guys. Since you're already giving him sex (and probably emotional support) without demanding a relationship, there is no reason for him to concede any power. This is why, in most relationships between equally attractive people, there is some exchange of sex for commitment at the start. Tbh, the best thing for you mentally is probably to just cut him out of your life. As a ma…
/r/seduction12/07/19 03:54 PM
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I used to be decently ugly (5'6'', asian, narrow face, high voice, 160ish pounds). I grew 4 inches from 19-22, my jaw got like 2 inches wider, my voice dropped, and I hit the gym enough to be 180 pounds at about 11% body fat. No girlfriends in middle and high school, now 1 hookup a week off tinder with fairly low effort. It's honestly depressing how different girls, and people in general treat me.
/r/seduction12/07/19 03:50 PM
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I'm probably chadlite (goodish face, 5'9'' cuts me from full chad but at least 9/10 body). I can get about 1 date a week off tinder from max swipes every day. If I try really hard using tinder gold, I can get mabye 3 every week. Off those, I can hook up with mabye half of them. This is putting in effort to message pretty much every girl I match with, and swiping on girls a solid 2-3 points below me. I matched with 2 fat girls that I ended up banging after a dry spell. Both had 99 likes, 1 had 60…
/r/Chadfish24/06/19 07:44 AM
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There's a TON of information about nutrition and fitness on the internet, so just look up beginner nutrition and fitness programs. They will explain it much better than I can over just a reddit post. Also, take it slow, and don't kill yourself. It's better to go slow and enjoy the process of slowly getting fitter and stronger, than going ham at the start and quitting after a month. After a while you start feeling way better than you used to.
/r/seduction14/06/19 04:03 AM
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Man, no one's gonna care at the gym. In fact, it's usually "good on you" because everyone started off relatively weak, and most of the people aren't gonna be 300 pound benching beasts. If you wanna look good, make sure your diet is good. Calculate how many calories you need for maintenance, and eat like 1000 more than that. Try to eat clean, lots of protein and veggies, cut the sugars. It's hard to eat enough so protein powder is a pretty cheap alternative. To gain mass, eating is just as import…
/r/seduction13/06/19 05:06 AM
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Yeah, if you see some weedy or fat kid at the gym, you just think "Good on you mate, keep going and in 2 years you'll be a beast". Especially when that fat drops off some guys and their jawline is actually good and they go from like a 4 to an 8. Just don't do those erotic moans.
/r/seduction13/06/19 05:01 AM
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I don't think I phrased myself very well lol, I'm going to break down what I think, but since I'm not there there's a good chance I'm wrong. Women usually have what I consider inner beliefs, and outer beliefs. Inner beliefs are values that they actually consider important, and outer beliefs are those that society tells her she should consider important. For example, one chrisitan girl might actually really want to fuck, but society's told her not to. This girl can be persuaded pretty easily thro…
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:59 AM
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This isn't really a shit test. It's closer to a comfort test. Sometimes women actually want a relationship, and if your intentions don't match you're not gonna bang them unless you actually date them. The only real reaction is either to agree "sure" and if she wants you, she'll keep chasing. This will only happen if she's really attracted, and since you've only had one date and she's texted you that it probably won't work. The other method is to establish what her intentions are, and how you "ac…
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:25 AM
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Just decide what you actually want, and the possible consequences of those actions. Then act on them.
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:19 AM
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Not no condom tho. That's just retarded. You can be attracted to someone but not fuck them because you decide it's not good for the particular situation. That's not beta at all. Also who the fuck still uses beta in 2019.
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:18 AM
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People do naturally respect physical attributes more than you'd think. Height and muscle do matter a lot, so I'd recommend hitting the gym. I'm only 5'7-8'' but I weight 190ish with abs, and that's enough to get respected physically. Also, don't let people talk over you and have decent body language. Although people pretty much always assume the biggest loudest person is the leader at first, after a while you get respect through good decision making + winning social situations. In groups, you ac…
/r/seduction12/06/19 03:16 AM
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I've seen similar behavior in people from more conservative backgrounds as well, where they have a really defined sense of personal space. I think it's mostly socialization. That's why you can't really have hard and fast rules: the girl who's a conservative christian might think kissing is just for marriage, while a more liberal girl might make out with strangers for fun but have no intention on sleeping with them. I think that's the fun part about humans tho: they're all different so you have t…
/r/seduction06/06/19 07:26 AM
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No offense, but from your comments you seem a little on the spectrum. The people I know who are higher functioning try to boil down social interactions down to concrete rules. People touch each other when they are comfortable with the person, and depending on their past socialization. Women hug each other all the time with no sexual element, because it feels nice and you get a nice oxytocin boost. Men also interact physically with other men they feel comfortable with (handshakes, back slaps, etc…
/r/seduction06/06/19 03:54 AM
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I see arrogance as actually seeing other people as lesser. You're not insecure when you're talking to a dog, but you think you're smarter than it. Arrogant people act like that, but to other people. Confidence is knowing you'll be alright no matter what the outcome is. The girl can laugh at you, you can lose your job, but you know because of the skills and worth you have innately you can probably claw your way back pretty quick. Cockiness is joking confidence (usually overstated). If it's not do…
/r/seduction06/06/19 02:23 AM
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Yeah, that makes it sound psychological. Do you get morning wood? Do you have trouble putting on muscle and gain weight easily, and feel lethargic and foggy often?
/r/seduction04/06/19 10:51 PM
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Cover your bases for the false rape accusations tho.
/r/seduction04/06/19 01:44 PM
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Get your testosterone levels checked. If they're very low, make sure you have a good diet and enough sleep. Worst case, you might need a topical cream. It's either that or psychological usually. Also, make sure you're having fun lol. It might seem like a big deal to lose your virginity, but you only do it once, so try to enjoy it, and you'll perform better.
/r/seduction04/06/19 01:43 PM
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You can't turn no's into yes's. Yes's are pretty much layups and you can bang them with no game Pickup is to turn mabye's into yes's. Fortunatly, this is a large number of the population.
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:58 AM
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Yes: Mildly annoyed. Why would I feel defensive, all you've done is say wrong things and you haven't made any arguments. Yes: The definition of dominance I've provided is pretty close the the accepted one, and you've not provided one https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a658/0c11678bc2a2cfe711348eb9c0edfe484fc0.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5494206/ Yes: Because it looks like the only "point" you've made is a no-true scotsman fallacy that a "true" alpha would succeed in that situa…
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:52 AM
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No, I'm defining social dominance in the way that it's defined by pretty much all sociologists and how it's accepted by common society. You're the one who's failed to provide a definition. You're point is "true alpha always wins I'm true alpha ahahah" which is braindead.
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:34 AM
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You actually think some people are dominant in every situation? The true alpha doesn't have to "cave" but literally everyone in the venue is laughing at the funny fat guy cause he's a professional comedian. If the true alpha doesn't laugh he's just a boring motherfucker. In this case, the comedian is much more socially dominant. It's good that he doesn't give a fuck, cause he can be mr James Bond all he wants by himself. Social dominance is knowing which conventions you can get away with breakin…
/r/seduction01/06/19 07:18 AM
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Like, one of my boys is the heir to a multinational company. He literally knows princes and shit. In the club, he's not the alpha because he's a 5'6'' brown shy boy, even tho he could have any guy in the club get the shit beaten out of them by 4 6'3'' ex pro-wrestlers. In the club, all of the 6'3'' boys are alpha, but if you put them in a comedy club then the funny fat guy is the one women wanna bang the most. I would kick the shit out my bosses ass, but at work we both know I'm his bitch cause …
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:11 PM
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What the fuck is a "true alpha" lol. A guy who doesn't laugh at anyones jokes? That makes you look like an antisocial retard. No one's the "alpha" in every situation.
/r/seduction31/05/19 04:56 PM
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All you do is primary school name calling you actual retard. If you can't handle enough confrontation to change your order, you obviously don't have any fucking balls. Is this hard to understand for you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/19 03:51 AM
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Holy fuck is that a bad argument. Having balls is willing to risk confrontation (in this case changing your order) to defend what is rightly yours (having the right order). "Calm down princess we can all disagree" just shows you're a fucking idiot. If you're trying to say "It's too small a thing to show you have balls" then I agree with you, but not doing it shows for sure you have no balls.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/19 11:39 PM
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You can just fucking talk to them normally (since it's a social activity) and then if you vibe you ask them for lunch to get to know them better. Do this after a while of doing the activity unless she looks interested. I'm a weird fuck so I just talk to random women at the library and public transport anyway but it usually goes alright. I avoid talking to girls while they're working out at the gym, but if they're doing a similar exercise just ask them for a spot or some shit. Cold approach style…
/r/seduction29/05/19 11:32 PM
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More birth control in the water and xenoestrogens have an actual noticeable effect. Also, the lack of conflict in the average male life, as well as being on the internet, sleeping like shit, and eating like shit lowers test. Soy doesn't actually lower test (unless you've got it pumping on a fucking IV). It's just a funny meme.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/19 09:35 PM
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Yeah, I can tell from the way you fucking type lol. No, but if you're girl friend and boyfriend you have nothing to be insecure about, since you're both gonna be shit.
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:21 PM
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Why the fuck are you taking sex so seriously. It's literally you putting your dick into a fucking hole and then you're pumping back and forth, until splooosh. You're also both making retarded faces while this happens. Also, something you realize is that sex with good looking chicks doesn't feel better than sex with ugly chicks: even feels worse sometimes physically cause ugly chicks try harder. This has made me value looks a lot less in terms of women. Seriously tho, if you want 0 insecurity jus…
/r/seduction29/05/19 03:50 PM
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Then you go to places that girls with those hobbies go cuz. Like girls who read? Go to the library or book clubs or book signings or some shit. Like sporty girls? Play some sport or join a gym class. Like crazy girls, travel to America. Then you know them, and you can chat to them easily. Also, try to have traits that girls who go to those places like. Sporty girls probably like real fit guys more than library girls. Edit: Salsa and Bachata are fun as fuck and you can do them anywhere in the wor…
/r/seduction29/05/19 03:44 PM
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It's a mix of both. In my experience, seduction can move you up 3 or so points on the scale. This means if you're Jo average, you can hit about an 8, which is good enough for most women. You'll still lose out to mr 6'3'' Chris Hemsworth lookalike, even if his game is very average. If you happen to naturally be a 2 (bottom 1% or so in looks), attempts at style kinda look silly, and people don't talk to you so social skills don't matter. Girls at my uni have reported guys for trying pickup stuff o…
/r/seduction09/05/19 08:24 AM
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Gym sleep and diet. Sleep 10-6, every night (cut the games and internet to until 9). Eat a balanced, nutritious diet, and hit the gym 6 times a week. In 6 months you'll feel like a god. Cut down on the porn and processed sugar. Fucks your reward pathways. Girls are more insecure than you most of the time. If they like you, but they feel they lose social points being with you, they won't go out with you (don't be a dumbass). However, the reverse of this is any position of authority will get you c…
/r/seduction03/05/19 02:11 PM
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I just go Ice cream (she pays usually, but at worst I lose $6) Park to chat and increase confort (same street as icecream) Home (same street as icecream) Bang ​ 80% success so far, usually 1 hour or so invested.
/r/seduction03/05/19 11:55 AM
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Cause when she sends it to her girlfriends in the groupchat they're gonna laugh at how much of a neckbeard you are.
/r/seduction03/05/19 11:51 AM
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I thought this meant forget the gf and bang your sister for a sec
/r/seduction27/04/19 02:15 AM
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If she see's herself as similar value: smooth sailing, don't do it, unless she says something personal as well. If she see's herself as higher value: need to up that value, don't do it. If she see's herself as lower value: might go into auto-rejection, time to open up some flaws (tbh I usually fake some like a fear of heights or some cute shit).
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:40 PM
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Why should you get women?
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:31 PM
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I also found it interesting cause salsa is kinda a hybrid of night and social game (you kinda know who the main people in the scene are, but too many people to know everyone well, with lots of small cliques). You literally move her body in a way that would be sexual harassment normally, but you both just have a mostly platonic great time. However, girls got more creeped out at him trying to run a set between dances then when I accidentally hit a girls breasts with my head trying to do a move (wh…
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:22 PM
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I feel game is played on the "mabye" girls. The "yes" girls, you flirt a bit then bang easily. The "no" girls, you're fucked.
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:18 PM
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Have you got like $60 bucks for a motel room? Car's more uncomfortable but can do in a pinch.
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:14 PM
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Nah, the idea is if you fall below a certain % in genetic attractiveness, game no longer matters, and girls won't give you a chance. This is like bottom 1-2% before deformities (incels also count many deformed people as incel). To be a "truecel" (A real incel) you usually need to have a combination of a height under 5'5'', low IQ, usually a bad job (because low iq) and ugly face. However, most people who call themselves incel aren't really (they could jump into fuckable territory with work). Peo…
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:01 PM
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I know humor, I do stand up at a decent level. Comedy Central is different from talking to women. If a guy roasts me, I'll fire back as hard as I can because that's how you interact with guys. If I fire back with a really good zinger against a girl, she might laugh, her friends might laugh, but there's a good chance she'll resent you for ages because of it. It also doesn't exactly help you in getting laid in my experience. From my experience, it's much better to just twist what she says into a w…
/r/seduction18/03/19 10:41 AM
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Nah, if you go too far it seems buthurt and non socially calibrated. If you can bring them in your frame (put the visor on them, grimace, and say "Yeah, I know what you mean") or something that escalates the situation while still being funny, it's effective. Don't just take the insults tho.
/r/seduction17/03/19 01:34 PM
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I don't see how "what about me do you find hot" is not confident, but fair. I notice a lot of guys on r/tinder just dance around like monkeys trying to attract the girl with "witty" messages, when really you kinda both know if you wanna meet up from just pics
/r/seduction12/03/19 09:33 PM
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Nah, eating pussy was the gayest thing and fucking some dude was the most manly (cause domination) while getting fucked was the second gayest thing. It's mostly societal standards. I consider myself as straight as it gets, but if some chick had great tits, 10/10 face and tall body, and then she turned out to have a dick when we were gonna fuck, well shit, I guess we gay now.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:16 PM
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What a cuck, fucking women and being in healthy relationships kekekek. The reason she isn't talking to you might be because your personality comes across in text?
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:14 PM
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I feel introversion is a meme. Plenty of introverts are excellent at talking to people, while plenty of extroverts are terrible at it. What people tend to mean by introversion is poor social skills, not getting drained from social situations.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:07 PM
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"Why did you swipe right on me" does work if her bio and pictures are shit tho.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:01 PM
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Most peoples sexuality is on a spectrum (the Kinsey scale) and very few people are 100% gay or 100% straight. If a woman who was extremely androgynous and attractive started hitting on you, and you were attracted to feminine guys, I don't see why not. Yeah, straight men turn gay all the time in environments that facilitate it (Prison, Ancient rome, etc etc).
/r/seduction12/03/19 03:59 PM
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This was 3 months ago. What are you doing. 7 is about the national average, so it's all g You're not gonna learn any actual technique unless you gain reference points from the same woman. You can also bang much more consistently (once or more a day) compared to just hookups (I can only manage once a week at pretty high effort).
/r/seduction18/02/19 10:33 PM
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It depends. If you try to pickup at uni too much/poorly: you will become that guy if you fail, people will use you as a bonding tool by bitching and laughing about you, and you will have a ton of negative social proof.
/r/seduction01/02/19 09:43 PM
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Also: what pickup is made for is adults who work, and have limited chances to meet women (cold approach is perfect for this). If you're at a university, social circle by joining clubs and talking to people in class is just as/more effective as cold approach. I'd recommend just practicing social circle game at uni, and cold approach at nightclubs and stuff because "Oh I was drunk ahahaha"
/r/seduction01/02/19 09:42 PM
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From a young age: I don't care about what other men (except family) think of me. I care about what women think of me only in so far as getting laid. So yeah, just getting laid pretty much.
/r/seduction01/02/19 09:31 PM
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You're fucking kidding if you think that's 2/10. At least above average for any man with eyes.
/r/seduction01/02/19 09:29 PM
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Just move then lol. That mentality is going to kill you with those girls.
/r/seduction31/01/19 02:53 PM
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Why should a girl care about how smart you are (this is the main thing you have emphasized). A "white trash girl" wants what any other "good girl" would want (that also reeks of whore/Madonna complex), just in different amounts. That's why good looking, muscular charming badboys do well with them: they can provide enough comfort, while giving tons of excitement. Keep in mind, compared to these blokes you are probably a bit of a pussy. For example, when I hang out with my "white trash" friends, s…
/r/seduction30/01/19 10:27 AM
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If you know double handed reward the follow/reward the lead, you can get girls feeling really sexy with such a basic move as well. With intermediate girls you bodyroll leads are also good, but beginner girls can't do that usually. What kills me is my solo dancing is still shit ahaha.
/r/seduction30/01/19 04:11 AM
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Who the hell keeps counting after 50 lol.
/r/seduction19/01/19 11:36 AM
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Have you noticed that most of the stuff you've listed is (except height) related to money? You'll definitely be able to get a gold digger type girl if you're private plane rich, but then it'll be a very simple transaction: her time and sex, for your money. I actually know a few model-teir (part time model girls) who date rich guys, but absolutely hate them because all they do is make money, while they're very boring people. However, they've gotten used to the lifestyle, so they kinda just live i…
/r/seduction19/01/19 09:48 AM
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What, we're fishing in two completely different pools dude. You seem to go after club girls and strippers, which might be fun, while I just get one girl a week or so passively without having to do any actual game. Two completely different types of seduction. As long as you're having fun with short term flings, good on you, but keep it to yourself and don't spurt your e-jizz all over reddit. You kinda seem like a spoiled kid who's looking for validation tbh.
/r/seduction19/01/19 09:34 AM
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What, from me? Saying that your entire comment is the cyber equivalent of jerking yourself off is jealousy? Maybe check with a psychologist for signs of narcissism lol
/r/seduction19/01/19 06:47 AM
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So what's the point of saying this lol. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it's close to 100% self masturbatory. "Oh, this is what I do, but you can't do it because I'm awesome ahaha". No shit they ask common sense questions, they're trying to learn. Most of the good guys only answer questions or don't come here at all.
/r/seduction19/01/19 05:38 AM
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What do you want in a guy? Do you want him to be fit? Time to go to the gym. Do you like funny guys? Time to watch comedy. etc etc, try to have some similarities to your ideal guy. Also try to make it a bit easy. Most guys are cowards in asking a girl out.
/r/seduction19/01/19 04:38 AM
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So you're comment is essentially content-less because you don't say what you do well. It's like someone on a investing forum saying "I'm already way past the average pleb with my net worth, I have two lambo's and a 5 million dollar houses. I've had banks loan to me without even knowing my asset portfolio. Even those trust fund idiots don't do as well as me. I think the main problem with guys is they lack the instinct and risk taking skills" Well thanks, but that doesn't tell me how I can improve…
/r/seduction19/01/19 04:34 AM
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Can you highlight what bits you think work well? I feel a problem with naturals is they don't know "why" what they does works, so they just give pretty generic advice that ends up making other guys feel worse.
/r/seduction18/01/19 05:18 AM
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7 can make you good at sex. 7 doesn't make you good at seduction.
/r/seduction18/01/19 05:16 AM
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You sound like you don't really know what you're talking about tbh. If you want to get really good at sex, and have really good sex, you need to practice multiple times with the same woman. This is because you tend to have more sex when in a relationship, and you have accurate feedback to improve your technique. The first time with most girls is usually the most technically inept. Also, I highly doubt your the level of sex god your trying to portray, since you posted such a masturbatory fantasy …
/r/seduction18/01/19 05:10 AM
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Brb hit him too hard and had him land on concrete, giving you a manslaughter charge. Brb didn't hit him hard enough, and he knew how to fight so he kills you. Brb similar levels of physicality but someone picks up a chair or something. Brb never invited back to any party's because your "that guy who can't control his emotions like a little bitch". The absolute state of someone who'd try to gouge your eyes after a bit of banter. No, don't do any martial arts, because the last thing you need to do…
/r/seduction12/01/19 04:12 PM
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Yep, I'm conscious of the fact that every girl has a ton of matches on tinder, so "hey" or a random sexual comment as an opener isn't as effective unless you're really good looking. However, I feel cheesy pickup lines are only a step up, since you can just mass send them without any real thought. A unique comment about them tends to be better than both, because it shows he can talk to a higher degree than a pickup line. I do use pickup lines when she has absolutely nothing worth commenting on on…
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:37 PM
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Giving her 6 times the orgasms as normal
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:34 PM
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Yep, looking good matters. However, what I believe the core of seduction is, is to change a mabye into a yes. You advice right now is just "be hot lol" (which can be improved on, but should be a given, and isn't as helpful). If she's a yes, she'll either play along, or tell you "cut the bullshit and just come over and fuck me". It's not much effort to be "creative", literally just make a comment about one of her photo's, or just a generic "why do you think I'm so cute". I've only had 100 matches…
/r/seduction08/01/19 07:48 AM
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I feel asking for nudes shoots you in the foot. First, I look for stuff in her photo's she's probably proud of, apart from her looks. For example, there was a goth girl who wore a lot of chokers in her photo's. I said they really suited her hair, she replied that she had over 30 of them, and I asked her out on the pretense I really wanted to see a cool choker. I use about 10 messages to show I have a bit of social calibration, then ask out if it's going well. Pickup lines kinda seem like they wo…
/r/seduction08/01/19 07:43 AM
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Keep in mind the objective of tinder. You should try to set up a date as quickly as possible. All prior conversation to this is just to make her comfortable enough to get her on a date. The opener should just be something about her profile, but not about her looks. If there's hardly anything on her profile, I usually just ask "so what do you find so attractive about me". Just banter a bit, but ask her out to a FUN casual date, within 15 or so messages. If she's keen, she'll keep chatting, but as…
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:26 PM
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Just hello doesn't work very well, because you don't stand out. If you look at any girls tinder, there's just a stream of boring "hey" messages.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:23 PM
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Neg's are a terrible idea lol. They're literally a meme in current culture.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:23 PM
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6 times 0 is still 0 for me.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:16 PM
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There's a free pdf floating around, I have the one on cunnilingus. It just goes over thing like the stages of buildup to orgasm and what to watch for, different techniques to use on different women, etc etc. I really liked it because it gave me enough to just switch to something else that is usually effective if what I was doing wasn't working well.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:16 PM
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Female black book also isn't too bad, and there is a nina nartley video that teaches how to eat pussy well.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:28 PM
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Yeah but it's probably tied to your ego. The cuter the girl, the more your brain perceives her going out with you as making you high status, but if you get rejected you're lower status. Unfortunately, this is kinda an evolutionary trait you need to train yourself out of, which is by not caring too much about how she'll affect you socially
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:04 AM
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The main problem is most girls don't go for foreigners because Japan is a deeply racist country (I am part Japanese). You have a minority (mabye 5-10%) who really like foreigners, which is why gaijin (foreigner) bars, and tinder work well, because supply and demand is good. I'd suggest these. However, if you go try to pickup in the train the foreigner aspect might work against you, unless you can get a "novelty" fuck. It's kinda how some girls in the west have a black male fetish, or yellow feve…
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:39 PM
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You motherfucker. You're in the best time of your life to lose weight and gain muscle, and you wanna just give up? You're literally perfect height gang, I wear elevators to compete with 6' bro's in clubs. You sound so fkn fatalistic, I think the issue is not a girl one, but one where you need to achieve some shit to get yourself some self confidence.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:31 PM
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That's still her fault. Most of people who commit crime are "good boys" who just hang out with the "wrong people". If she hangs out with a potential murderer, and then gets caught up in a murder, well tough shit.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:27 PM
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Right now, imagine this. This beautiful angelic girl is taking a steaming pile of shit. It's really bad, it smells like a dead toad. Do you still see her as a "9/10"? I feel the main fear is the fact she's attractive. If she likes you, it's good for your ego, and if she doesn't it'll hurt. You think she's beautiful, but realistically under a nice wrapper she's essentially the same as most women. She probably tastes similar, feels similar, and has similar insecurities to most other girls. In term…
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:25 PM
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It really depends on what you're going for. Girls are attracted to different attractive archetypes.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:16 PM
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Any nice places that are CASUAL near your place? Personally I shy away from drinks or coffee as I see them as kinda cliche. You want the girl to kinda be excited to go on the date, even without you. This is the exact routine I do, with every girl. I take her to either a milkshake or icecream. I hype this up a bit, as the "best milkshake I've found in Melbourne". We talk a bit, then I move her to the park. We talk a bit more, and I either make an excuse to go get water at my place, or to go to th…
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:14 PM
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This is good in maybe highschool, or mabye with veeery immature university students. Any social circle that I'm in would think you were an absolute loser if you used them, because you're also playing into the guys frame, which is to have a low level tit for tat. The later responses also seem really tryhard. Your mom jokes convey a bit of a lack of wit, especially if they're as generic as listed. I was talking to a girl at the pool, and my mate asked "nice bro are you getting her number". The qui…
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:10 PM
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This is really good. I'd do the same, but smile and look at the girl like "what a loser huh". This puts additional pressure on him since the girl he's going for him now thinks he's a loser. There's a difference between "I'm too intimidated/stupid to come up with a response" silence, and the aristocratic amused "dance for me peasant" silence, and I think you know how to go for the second.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:06 PM
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I don't understand how game interacts with getting a lot of tinder matches. That is 95% looks, and mabye 5% bio. If you get 1000 matches you're just a good looking guy. Also, as if you've counted your bangs after 100. Did you just stop at 234 because it's a nice number lol.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:04 PM
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That seems real terrible, does that actually work? Negs should usually be playful at worst.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:03 PM
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I've found pretty much any skill that's polished will attract women, if you can present it in a calibrated way. If you try to draw attention to a skill, people don't care. This means skills like music are good, because they come up a lot, while something like juggling is much rarer. I'd also recommend open mic stuff like comedy and public speaking, as these are really easy to present skill.
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:02 PM
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What are you talking about, the saxophone is the sexiest instrument, followed by bass for guys, and flute for girls. Drumming shows dat there rhythm.
/r/seduction06/01/19 11:59 AM
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Your advice is the most generic stuff that anyone says. You may as well just tell them to brush their teeth and take regular showers. It's not helpful at all in getting women.
/r/seduction02/01/19 01:12 AM
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Heaps man, and it's much more fun than just dancing with friends and "having fun". It's a huge rush to go up to a cute girl and realize that she's attracted to you. You're assuming I'm not enjoying myself, which is one of the main premises of game (self amusement)
/r/seduction02/01/19 01:11 AM
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Me, when you give out shit advice to people who are struggling. Your advice would help literally no one, why are you even on this subreddit
/r/seduction01/01/19 05:30 AM
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The 1:17 ratio WAS what happened throughout history before socially enforced monogamy. There is no reason to think that after societal restrictions are lifted it would not go back to similar numbers. This is absolutely terrible for society, due to various social and economic reasons.
/r/seduction01/01/19 03:07 AM
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This is because it's from what you can see, you obviously know very little about pickup, with most of the information being from the mainstream media. There are some (quite outdated) techniques such as negging and pea cocking, which hardly anyone does now days. However, you do realize that is PUA's didn't get any results, they would just alter their actions to get results, then tell other PUA's what they did? And this sort of process would be much more successful in generating good outcomes than…
/r/seduction01/01/19 03:03 AM
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Cool, that's exactly what pickup is, except you have other guys also give you tips on what they did. Also, when you're starting out with a trial and error approach it's creepy af.
/r/seduction31/12/18 10:30 AM
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One of the points you were trying to make was that monogamous relationships are not "natural". My point is that the "natural" way is 17 women to one man. This is not speculation, but backed up by our genetic record. I don't get where what I said was problematic, can you please elaborate? ​
/r/seduction31/12/18 07:36 AM
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Yeah, what's natural in our species is 1 male reproducing for every 17 females. This is great for that one guy, and alright for those 17 women (they get a high quality guy) but not so good for the other 16 men. Now, if you want our society to function, you need those other 16 men to be happy. This is marriage. If you get rid of the societal pressures forcing people into these arrangements, women tend to try to sleep with a few attractive men, while a large amount of men give up. Of course the ma…
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:03 AM
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So you're saying that people should just try to talk to lots of girls and then reflect on what they did wrong to improve their skills with women?
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:48 AM
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You do realize game is a term people use to refer to proficiency communicating with the other sex right? What I've seen, FROM ACTUAL EXPERIENCE that isn't 10+ years out of date, is you need to approach in clubs to get women. I take dance classes three times weeks and I go out with semi professional dancers to clubs, so we're probably having the most fun there. I think I've been overtly approached maybe once by a woman to dance. Compared to that, I think you're average 17 year old at a club has b…
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:44 AM
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If you want a threesome, it makes sense to pursue more liberal (feminist) women as they are more sexually open minded, and tend to have sexually open minding friends. Also you can't manipulate a girl who doesn't want to sleep with you into sleeping with you very easily. Seduction is usually turning a maybe into a yes, the yes and no's stay the same most of the time. It's not about what I think is respectful, it's about what she enjoys and gets excited about. Women can't smell "fakes", they just …
/r/seduction31/12/18 01:09 AM
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A lot of the feminists I've met seem like normal people, but are entirely unwilling to consider alternate points of view politically (like most people). The more radical ones also tend to destroy activity groups and clubs.
/r/seduction31/12/18 12:27 AM
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Nah, game is about winning. You want to get threesomes? Do certain things and date certain women. You want a nice fulfilling relationship? Do other things and date other women. The women with self esteem thing is also a huge meme: I've dated women with great self esteem and I'm a piece of shit.
/r/seduction31/12/18 12:26 AM
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Nah you fine. "That sounds so fun" is pretty keen. Girls don't plan for shit, so they won't usually give dates imo.
/r/seduction31/12/18 12:21 AM
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Why do you have to use standard shaming language like "creepy virgin"? It seems like you have some sort of negative emotional trigger toward game. You also seem to think no-one on this subreddit actually gets laid, and we're all just fantasizing or something? Your premise behind this is guys who think about game are creepy, and you should rely entirely on personal trial and error to improve with women. No one would do this, in any other activity that they actively want to become better at. Think…
/r/seduction31/12/18 12:14 AM
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"Just be yourself ahaha" What terrible advice to give someone. Obviously what he's doing isn't working, and it's a little more complicated than just "have fun lol". No shit game is for guys who can't get laid, the point is to get them laid more often.
/r/seduction30/12/18 11:26 PM
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From playing sport with men, the "alpha" is generally decided by skill, not attitude. You can pretend to be the alpha, but if you don't know what you're doing, no one respects you. If you act like a beta, but are really good, people respect you.
/r/seduction26/12/18 10:02 PM
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This is more just a note of the general trend: activity becomes known for being good to meet girls -> lots of guys who aren't that interested in the activity join it -> girls go away/become bitchier, as well as asking for unique locations that you use to get girls.
/r/seduction21/12/18 02:28 AM
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Tried this with my drug dealer. Typing this from the ICU now.
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:23 AM
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Since no one's mentioned it: sports are good, but especially martial arts. I feel super people pleasers are generally raised mostly by their mother, and so have pretty feminine values, trying to always make the group happy. In any sports team, you're going to get the shit ribbed out of you if you're not assertive. In martial arts, you're going to have some other guy try to beat the shit out of you while you do the same to him. Doesn't get more assertive than that. After that, who cares if you ma…
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:22 AM
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PM me pictures and I'll tell you what's attractive and what's not, and what sort of style would suit you.
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:16 AM
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200 matches in two days is absolutely insane. For perspective, over a 13 week or so period I got 100 around matches. Out of those 100, I got 12 dates, which all ended decently well. I have no idea how you can't convert off that many matches. Have you tried being more polarizing? Also, try to meet up with them as soon as possible. For coffee and drinks, try to be more interesting. A girl I went a date with complained that it was alllways coffee or a drink. I took her out for a milkshake, which I …
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:14 AM
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If you don't know her, don't do a duck based pun if you saw it on other social media, since it seems like you've stalked her online.
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:08 AM
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So firstly, she seems attracted, which is good. Sickness can't really be helped. What I'd do (and what I always do) is convey a tone that takes all the pressure off of her. Something that lets her know you're fine with taking it easy and that you won't get too clingy. Tbh, who knows what's happened. She might have found another guy, or just isn't ready for a relationship. The best you can do is make sure she doesn't feel you're going to be clingy if you do start to go out.
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:06 AM
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10-20% is pretty good for dating apps dude. I've gone out with 8-10% of my matches, and that's still a date a week. From what you're saying you're doing the right stuff, but do you ask them out quick enough? I usually ask them out within 10-15 messages or so.
/r/seduction20/12/18 10:48 PM
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To be honest, for me there are only girls I would bang, and girls I wouldn't. I don't care if she's conventionally attractive, since I don't need the status or ego boost of being with a attractive girl. I just want her to be good at sex. Vagina feels the same no matter what they look like, and ugly girls often are more enthusiastic in bed. She just has to not be too fat, if she's ugly you can just hit it from behind. I agree with you tho, who cares about laycount. It's just a number you use to b…
/r/seduction17/12/18 01:44 PM
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Hey, did you actually read the post? Do you think this sort of life is fulfilling? Calling other guys chodes because they don't put pussy as the sole goal of their life is strong loser move. People who act like you are refuses of society.
/r/seduction15/12/18 06:49 AM
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I actually agree with incels that, if you're genetics are below a certain level (bottom 2-3%), you're going to be pretty stuffed and bitter, especially if society has told you it's normal to be in a relationship. A large proportion of incels do follow basic self help advice, like going to the gym, basic hygene, etc. Incel tears is also huge bully subreddit lol.
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:51 AM
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Yeah, that's a perfect answer. Just classic agree but jokingly. However, you both know that you're trying to bang (girls arn't dumb). If she's not interested, it's a IOD, and you keep doing it, and she's not kept there by an obligation (work, friends), she will leave. Who cares. If it's an IOI, you seduce her, you bang.
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:45 AM
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Thanks, I might start one because I do a lot of activities I think people find cool (urban exploring, dancing, etc) but have hated taking photo's . Does your insta just pop up on hot girls feeds?
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:34 AM
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The thing about dating apps is, the only important thing is lots of girls use it. Interface and the things that set the apps apart don't really matter if you're just trying to hook up. This is why tinder is king: if you have good game and can get them on a date, even if they're not on a 100% hookup app, you'll hook up. The attitude of the apps changes a little, like on bumble you're more likely to get a date (girl chooses guys who can message) and POF and such are better for an actual relationsh…
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:32 AM
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That's interesting, is it pretty much Facebook but with mostly pictures? I haven't really kept up with insta because I don't like taking pictures, but is it because you have social status (followers and interesting pictures) that you can show from it?
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:26 AM
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Let me ask you something: What are you actually, and actively doing against "the destruction" of our environment? Protesting doesnt count by the way. I am sure you have a smartphone, you wear clothes that have been transported thousands of miles to your destination, your food is being transported through your country to arrive at your grocery store, and if you are not actually living in in country where you can harvest your own bananas, did you stop eating bananas? You are aware that all those t…
/r/seduction12/12/18 02:55 PM
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Pretty much every generation in the history of time has considered the generation's after them spoiled and weak (even plato wrote about this). This is probably because when you're young and stupid, you don't understand how young and stupid you are, so when you get older things that young people do seem ridiculous. However, if we're talking trash about other people's generations, do you think it was a move by a "strong" generation to destroy the environment to this point? What about house prices …
/r/seduction12/12/18 12:12 PM
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So at university, there are a variety of clubs. I'd suggest dance, but for the extra socially inept, clubs like boardgame and anime are good to join because you can practice actually talking to people.
/r/seduction11/12/18 08:09 PM
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Because as a man, you can just get good. Do you want to fuck a girl more if she's an elite athlete with a doctorate? Nah you just care if she's cute. But men can build up things to make women attracted. It's exploitative, but true, at least you have a possible way out, unlike a hideous girl.
/r/seduction11/12/18 11:38 AM
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To be 100% honest, it get really hard to improve your social skills if their shit. This is because people don't want to socialize with you, which gives you less room to practice. This kind of accumulates over time. The hard thing to realize, but also one of the most freeing, is no body fucking cares about you. They don't really care about how much work you've put in, or what your dreams are. They're too busy with their own shit. What they do care about is what you can give them. Can you give the…
/r/seduction11/12/18 11:31 AM
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I'm being a "jerk", because the only way you can improve on something is to admit where your shortcomings are. You can't claim to have a trait if you've never displayed characteristics of that trait, especially on a medium (online dating) which revolves nearly 100% on surface looks, where actual social skills mean very little. Why are you even on this forum. Do you want to learn how to get women? Then of course you have to try. Do you not want to learn how to get women? Then go away and stop com…
/r/seduction09/12/18 06:59 AM
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So you're saying that people can overcome disabilities and get laid? We obviously agree on this. Isn't it pretty obvious that they need to try to get laid? Pretty much everyone needs to try to do that.
/r/seduction09/12/18 06:53 AM
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A study was done where researchers found, a combination of weak status and kindness was the least attractive, but a combination of dominance (high status) and kindness was the most attractive.
/r/seduction09/12/18 06:51 AM
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The "best" humor is just what makes someone laugh in the moment. This means that context and timing are key. Jokes are very different in real life from stuff like stand-up, in real life it's mostly just a mildly funny observation delivered at the correct timing to the correct audience. Also, female humor tends to be a bit different from male humor.
/r/seduction09/12/18 06:50 AM
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So you're saying: You don't make much money. You're not physically attractive You're not charismatic. What are you good at?
/r/seduction08/12/18 10:35 AM
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If you're gonna save $400 on fucking a prostitute by fucking a girl off tinder, or $100 on drinks and cover for going out a few times, surely it's worth getting a professional photo. You can even use it for work.
/r/seduction08/12/18 10:23 AM
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I'm sure being autistic is a very attractive trait. Look at the following statement. "I'm attractive, but I can't attract women of any race". If you can't attract women, you are by definition not attractive. It seems like you're defending your ego using the typical "I've never tried" defense. However, we are what we can do. If you can't lift heavy weight, you're not strong. If you can't think using abstract idea's, you're not smart. If you can't attract women, you're not attractive.
/r/seduction08/12/18 09:12 AM
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Nah, I met up with most of them only once or so, the only one I've hung with is my mate. For the SJW thing, I feel that sort of thinking is kinda because most men don't have the problem of unwanted sexual attention, but I've been propositioned to by gay men at least once every 6 months since I was in high school. It's alright, or even flattering, if they're cool about it and back off, but if they're calibrated it's weird and unsettling, and this is from men who are of a similar size and strength…
/r/seduction07/12/18 06:25 PM
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Don't use hot, comment on outfit or shoes for looks. People like it if you compliment them on something they did (choose nice outfit) rather than just genetics.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:41 PM
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Don't do this shit lol. If she likes you already and you neg her you'll fuck up a sure thing. Nothing worse than when you're vibing and some guy comes along and tries to be the alpha of the group. Party's real hard, lots of different variables. If you can take her back to your room pre-gaming, do you have any tasty (Bailey's) alcohol? You can tell the rest of the group you're both just going to get some beer and then sneak some with her in your room. The main point is you need some excuse. She n…
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:40 PM
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If you actually get her into bed: Female black book of orgasm. Most guys do alphabet method which is ok but mediocre. Some guys can't even hit the clit regularly. If you can get her to cum 1-3 times while sleeping with her the first time she's usually much nicer to you/easier to get into a relationship.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:33 PM
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Don't say "I know this is a bit weird". You're both aware of this, but be a bit more confident. A simple "Hey, I thought you were cool and I'd like to get to know you a bit better, can we get coffee" is fine. No one in their right mind would think this is creepy. If some douche does make fun of it, you can laugh at him and just tell him you do find cute girls cute + homosexual slur of choice.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:31 PM
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If a woman told me "All men are pigs, they start all the wars, and they are inherently violent" I'd tell her to shut up. If she was a good friend who was becoming a radical feminist because of her surroundings, I'd try to help. In fact, I'm friends with both feminists and white trash, because I think to have an unbiased viewpoint you need to associate with many people from different stations. If a man tells me "all women are good for are having babies" I'd have the exact same reaction, which is …
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:25 PM
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So I'm fine, I get about a date a week without seduction or pickup because I'm good at using tinder and I have a decent social circle, plus I'm in uni. My friend has done pickup and is gradually becoming more antisocial (This is the crux of the post). I was wondering if this was a pickup thing that happened often, and if so what sort of positive pick up resources should I send him toward to make him display more pro-social behavior.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:22 PM
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Too long message length. This is completly my style, and may not work for you. However, instead of actual serious conversation I keep first messages light. I also try to meet up within 10-12 messages at most, and I want her to feel at least a bit of excitement. I'd probably say something dumb like "your anatomy looks fine to me". If she's not interested, she'll disengage. If she is, then I'll set up a date. Serious tho, if she's interested literally just ask to get coffee. I can include examples…
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:18 PM
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I've read Models and quite a few articles on Girls Chase (I really like his style). Should I just point out what he's doing is different than in Models?
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:11 PM
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Isn't the whole incel mindset wanting women over everything else, and feeling bitter that they can't get a relationship? I feel saying "unattractive men who express discontent at not being able to find a partner are misogynistic, and this can never change" quite a dangerous mindset to have in itself.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:10 PM
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Another example is he went on a trip to Brazil. He told me he didn't want to hang around with the other guys on the trip since they were "chodes" and didn't know any "game", and he talked about going out every night and picking up chicks. When I asked him what else he'd done, he told me he slept during the day so he could nightgame.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:08 PM
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I'd love the extra girth tbh. I'm 2 years older than him and I'm kind of a role model/friend figure (I went to highschool and caught the bus with him), and I just want to try to steer him in the right direction.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:04 PM
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I think that this in itself is ok. A man who has little success with women (incel) trying to better himself to become more attractive to women is something I'd welcome with open arms, and I think the incel term itself is just used to slander men women find unattractive.
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure they're talking about the right guys. I googled RSD maddison right now and he looked really similar to the black guy I saw with the girls (fashion and hairstyle). I've watched a few video's, and while a lot of it does seem to agree with what you're saying, I don't get what a "chode" is. It seems kinda like a word used to just stimulate tribalism, like "alt right" or "soyboy"
/r/seduction07/12/18 05:01 PM
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I think so as well, but he gets defensive if I tell him. He's my boy tho so I wanna stick with him. Do you think there's any way to show him he's being kinda dumb? I've shown him other ways of getting girls apart from cold approach (online dating etc), but he calls a lot of it something a "chode" (I have no fucking idea what that is) would do. Tbh even I'm not looking for relationships, I'm a bit of a fuckboy, but even I think a lot of the PUA stuff might be unhealthy.
/r/seduction07/12/18 03:27 PM
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Yep, that's fair enough. My friend went for the number every time, and he had about a thousand I think.
/r/seduction07/12/18 02:49 PM
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Yeah, that sounds about right. What I noticed was, it works. If you ask enough girls out, even in an calibrated way, I'd say 5% give you their number. This ends up positively reinforcing that behavior, even though maybe 50-60% of the girls didn't enjoy the interaction (note, more girls than I thought did enjoy being hit on).
/r/seduction07/12/18 02:45 PM
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No, not the niche of woman. Who cares about what you want. What do you offer? What are your strengths. For example, I'm asian myself. I'm also not tall (5'9'') with decently feminine features. If I tried to compete for the girls who love huge muscular men, I'd be stuffed. However, I like dancing, and I'm not bad, so I meet girls from that. I'm smarter than average, so some girls like that. I read a lot of books, so girls who like books can talk to me about that. I know what sort of personality t…
/r/seduction07/12/18 02:43 PM
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Adding onto this, self-depreciation does not turn women on. The best type of humor is hard because it very closely skirts social boundaries, but doesn't break them.
/r/seduction07/12/18 02:04 PM
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Nah, you'd find something else to fixate on. Oh he's taller than me Oh he's richer than me Oh he's more educated than me If you compete with guys at their forte, of course you're going to lose. You need to appeal to a specific niche using your strengths. The average white guy not getting laid has more in common with you than the average asian who's getting laid.
/r/seduction07/12/18 11:07 AM
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Sydney (Australia) is great dude, idk what you're talking about. I got 3 dates in 5 days when I went there for a banking conference.
/r/seduction07/12/18 07:46 AM
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I don't go to bars and clubs all that much. However, I feel being white would be like being vanilla ice cream. Most girls would be pretty neutral toward it (because of media) while some girls would be against dating minorities. However, if you don't play completely to the stupid societal stereotypes (be assertive and cocky as an asian, be a gentleman as a black man) it's even somewhat an advantage as it polarizes girls much more quickly. Would you feel better if those girls were talking to asian…
/r/seduction07/12/18 07:44 AM
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If you're 30 and you haven't been on 1 date, you're not an attractive white guy.
/r/seduction07/12/18 07:40 AM
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I'm a bit too busy with study to maintain a proper relationship, and I'll likely have to move for work, so I feel it's unfair to date a girl since I can't deliver the standard of relationship I'd like to. I'd rather not have sex than do what I consider a grey area (drunk girls, virgin girls) because of morals, but also because I'm pretty set to get a great job and lifestyle and having any allegations is likely to ruin that. However, I want to have sex, preferably a few fwb for maximal convenienc…
/r/seduction06/12/18 03:37 PM
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Thank you for your time and responses. I felt a shirtless picture in a more casual setting (longboarding) would be best to show off my body, but you think it'd be better for me to take a picture of myself in the gym?
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:36 PM
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Gym 3-5 times a week. I play soccer and dance as well as additional cardio, so I have abs, which I've got in one of my pictures. So what would be good to attract older women? Picture next to expensive shit?
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:30 PM
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I'd love to get the 21-30 age range, but they tend not to match with me. Any advice for this? Would a picture of my diploma be good?
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:17 PM
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Like an "LB" which is an asian boy who does a lot of drugs and goes to raves. The Asian version of what Justin Beiber has.
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:16 PM
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I do really bad in clubs and pubs, probably because of the "too kind good boy" vibe. I'm also allergic to alcohol, and I'd say most of my attractiveness comes from speaking or texting, so it kinda puts me in the situation where my value is the lowest (pure physicality). I'm also bad at judging when drunk is too drunk, so I try to avoid that grey line as much as possible. I'm not a bad dancer, so I've met a few more experienced girls through dancing (classes) and general university social circle.…
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:14 PM
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I'd probably be fine if they're 100% down, but usually they're quite hesitant even coming to my room, and quite a few of them have told me "I'm not going to fuck you". I know some people might consider this a shit test, but I know that if I escalate and they're in my room, I'll at least get mutual oral and probably be able to escalate to sex 90% of the time. However, the reason she'll fuck me is because she's really horny in the moment, and she'll regret it later. I've also slept with virgins be…
/r/seduction06/12/18 02:08 PM
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The way I see things is, you have to be confident in yourself. No matter what anyone does, unless it's a close member of your friend or family, or your boss, it shouldn't affect you too much. Who cares if it's genuine or a shit test? If you're confident you generally reply to it in the same way. For the driving thing, if I was busy, I wouldn't go. If I had nothing to do, but the thing she was suggesting doing was boring, I'd either try to change the activity, or not go. You said your reply would…
/r/seduction06/12/18 01:55 PM
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Bachata and zouk are even more sensual than salsa, would recommend.
/r/seduction21/09/18 07:26 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious we're not going to agree, and I'd like to not make this post too cluttered, so I'm gonna try to make this my last reply. When you say "He just decided to leave her for a better prospect" he did it in a very underhanded way by making sure he had a branch swing, and then insulted her after cheating on her. I'm not saying that he should not have broken up with her: if a high n count is a deal-breaker, it's unavoidable. It's just not entertaining for me so see a woman who…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 03:24 AM
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She's pissed off because he called her a whore and cheated on her. This guy literally is a former 25 year old virgin (implies unattractive physical traits) who thinks he needs a pure virgin girl 10 years younger than him because she's "saved herself" for him, but decided to string the current girl along until he found a better replacement. The female equivalent of this is seem too often on this sub, and I think behavior like that is disgusting regardless of gender. If we're gonna over-analyse, t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 06:18 PM
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If we're quoting rules of the sub, the very purpose of the sub is submitting post fitting the theme: "The woman in question must be looking for a "Good Man" while also either complaining about jerks, riding the carousel, having kids and needing a bailout, chasing Chad, demanding more than she can reasonably get, or she complains about being single and "can't find a decent guy". Which parts of the theme does this post fill? This post does not fit the theme of the sub well. It also does not even g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 05:36 PM
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Oh good, we're in agreement that the male was in fault in this situation. "The point is, this person in the OP is getting a taste of what HUNDREDS of other women do to men, and get away with" seemed was where I thought you were implying it was somewhat poetic that a woman experienced what men do sometimes, and that this was righting the scales. I agree with you that it's interesting, and it's similar to when a fat girl loses a lot of weight or gets a college degree and dumps the boyfriend. Howev…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 04:59 PM
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I don't feel this is really in the spirit of the sub. For me, a good WAATGM post includes a two main things: The woman should be hitting the wall. Her age should be early 30's, or if she partied excessively last 20's at the latest. In this post, the woman in question is 24, where her sexual attractiveness is usually still decently high. This means that she's made a conscious decision to try to step off the CC for something more meaningful. This shouldn't really be mocked. The woman should have r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 04:46 PM
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So you think that this is some sort of poetic justice that, because she's a woman, she should experience what some other shit women do to men? That's a pretty terrible point. You're making the assumption that she hit the wall early, rather than actually making a deliberate decision to try to lead a better life. I like seeing women hit the wall as much as the next guy, but making the decision to try to stop slutting it up before losing all your market value is objectively the best choice she coul…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 04:38 PM
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It's just not an attractive trait for me personally. It's not witty at all to put on a sarcastic voice and repeat what someone's said.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 10:44 AM
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The average erect length in western countries (America, Australia, etc) is about 5.2 inches. The largest country in the world is the Congo, at about 7 inches. Therefore, it's possible if she only went for above average Congolese men. However, assuming this is in the western world, an 8 inch penis is very rare, at less than 1% (probably 2 or so in a thousand men). The biggest dick in porn is mandingo, at about 9.5 inches, while most guys in porn are about 7.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 10:44 AM
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I had a similar thing happen in a hackathon. My teams idea wasn't the best, but the theme was for code that would "help the developing world". Some guys decide to make an app that can get around most government censorship using a combination of DHCP encryption, proxies, and VPN's, while also coding it to find the most efficient method. There were also a few other good projects, but this was by far the most technically advanced and innovative. The team that won was 4 girls and a trans guy, making…
/r/MGTOW24/04/18 12:39 PM
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How is it hamstering to realize that you've made a flawed study, and to try to stop the people who have adopted and morphed this into an oversimplistic idea?
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 04:39 AM
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So I've clicked that link, and he's pretty much just talking about dominance hierarchies, not an alpha/beta dichotomy, which is pretty much what is corroborated by the current sociological literature. Did you just read the title with alpha in it and decide to link that? Jordan Peterson is a very intelligent man, and I agree with most of what he's saying, but I'd like you to show me a clear example of him showing the alpha/beta dichotomy in the context used by most males in this sub (some men are…
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 04:36 AM
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As has been shown earlier in this post, the initial scientist proposing the Alpha Beta dichotomy in wolves later discarded his theory. The theory has mainly been taken up in broculture, but it's very difficult to define what "Alpha" is. We could take Alpha as the guy who gets the most pussy, is the most financially successful or is the biggest. However, these men still get dominated by other men in other area's of their life. I feel that you're trying to talk about dominance, which IS a real thi…
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 01:32 AM
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Try eating a lot of watermelon, or just take straight L citralline supplament
/r/seduction18/02/18 12:41 PM
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Who cares that she is beautiful (obviously most men, but this is besides the point). Imagine being fabulously rich. You have a lot of guy friends hanging out with you, but you never know if people are after your money or not. What you want would be a friend who appreciates you for traits that you value about yourself, not some arbitrary genetic lottery win. Of course her being beautiful is part of the subtext of the situation, but you should ask yourself do you mainly only value her for your bea…
/r/seduction14/02/18 04:23 PM
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I brought up the too muscular stereotype because you said a girl said it to you. Now, it might not be a comment to take at face value (she might just be seeing if you're using gym to cover up for another insecurity) but I've known a few guys who are constantly bulking but don't have an attractive physique to women. This also really depends on the girl. I don't mean Olympic bodybuilder, I mean 18% body-fat powerlifter mode. It's alright if you're fine with getting more muscular turning girls off,…
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:35 AM
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This guy has some right idea's, but the idea of NICENESS being the negative factor is not right. It's more NEEDYNESS. Girls like "confident assholes" because they are very non needy and seem confident. This makes it seem like they can get other women, which is a major turn on for girls. You might overcorrect if you've been caught to be only nice to girls your whole life, but a study showed that the worst results were by guys who were nice but non dominant, but the best results were from guys who…
/r/seduction03/02/18 11:40 PM
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You have to be honest with yourself. If you're ok with being alone, and you want to dedicate yourself to research, that is fine. Many scientists such as Tesla and Newton did the same. Just don't ever complain about it, because that is your choice. Why do you find things outside your interest field boring? It seems you've lost interest in learning about things that are outside your comfort zone. Seduction is not really "tricks" but ways to interact with people more effectively. Teasing women is j…
/r/seduction05/12/17 09:19 PM
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