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Ok but you're defending a concept that's entire basis has been overcoming direct objections to sex, that most of the advice ever given about the concept was pressure related, was about distracting her and then bringing it back around to try to get a new response or about continuing to escalate which is straight up sexual assault. I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm using the words that have been used to describe this concept for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:33 AM
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Dude you are talking to someone who is average looking and who had to learn social interaction from scratch starting at 18. I have all of my own methodologies. So there's this thing about guys with confidence I need to explain. You talk about how you need game to get laid and this is part of the strategy. You walked right past me saying this is a specifically bad, rapey strategy. So let me tell you a story. I met this girl. She came over, we really got along. I threw a cheesy as fuck line at her…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:10 AM
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Lifelong monogamy is economically sound. Relationship standards are changing. It is becoming appropriate to discuss open relationships openly and to expect to be respected. It is something that with someone who enjoys open relationships you can discuss candidly pretty early. I bring up swinging in an eventual future sense during discussion of turn ons usually before we actually have sex. Lifelong monogamy is silly for some. It's right for others. Humans aren't monogamous. SOME humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:21 AM
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People who accept responsibility or accountability are rare by both genders based on personal experience. Men and women both have things that society lets them get away with. In women's case, it's what men will tolerate to get laid. In men's case, it's what women aren't capable of prosecuting or physically stopping them from doing. And financial abortion, no. Child support isn't for the mother. Sorry, but some things don't have to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:18 AM
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Overcoming LMR is a disgusting concept and is rapey as fuck. There is no way to slice it that is not rapey. "But some women also act in a rude/bitchy way" yeah I'm talking about rape, sexual assault, harassment, etc. That's what you're justifying when I talk about men who make women's lives hell FYI not the dude who drops a rude comment back. And no, the blue isn't starting to accept the red at all. Like, if anything we've moved the goalposts further blue as red pill has been forced closer to ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:11 AM
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My experience as a bi dude is that no one I've dated has been anything but enthusiastic, but I'll admit I identify homophobia early and walk and self select away from women who might have a problem with it early based on similar but less personal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:05 AM
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lol Red Pill ten years ago actively promoted date rape and shared success stories about getting girls drunk enough to fuck and regularly reported "false" rape accusations that just based on sheer number if one out of ten was real a Red Piller raped a woman once a week and bragged about it on Reddit or AVoiceForMen. The Seduction community was arguably worse. It took us a couple of years to get them to stop talking about "How to overcome Last Minute Resistance" Aka "How to pressure a girl into se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:53 AM
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You couldn't make one out of having a factual basis for your ideas and beliefs though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:40 AM
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The answer is of course to go the next step and have universal income and have the economy adapt. Expanding maternity leave would help as well. In truth though daycare should be an option, not a necessity for families.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:39 AM
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Being more physically fit, being more socially competent, and being more goal oriented are not things that came into existence with red pill. They are things people have been giving self help seminars on since before you were born. What is it with white boys and thinking that because they do a thing they own it? "Oh look we started saying 'abundance mentality' that means we own the advice 'plenty of fish in the sea' it's Red Pill now" How is blue pill sexual strategy? Treating women with respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:55 PM
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This is dumb and you are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:50 PM
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Hot misogynistic guys get action, true. 1) From a limited subset of women who look for that 2) Often you're right in hook up culture who you are matters less than usual 3) Hook up culture is not how most romantic/sexual interaction takes place in the world 4) Nice guys are men who take actions "at" someone instead of "with" them. They do a thing and expect a result and get angry when it doesn't happen. Moreover, nice guys usually are men who don't bring much to the table. Except, they tend to lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:50 PM
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The idea that frat boys have the most success with women by any rational measure is in and of itself hilarious. Dude there is SOOOOO much more sex going on in the world than you have any idea and there are so many varied measures of success... Your premise is factually incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:39 PM
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It can pretty easily cross that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:33 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:31 PM
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I was with you right up until the word rollercoaster. Have you ever seen a child quietly get on a ride and have no fun at all? Have you ever seen an adult pressured by friends into riding a coaster only to have an anxiety attack during the ride? Have you ever seen someone just be tired and ready to go home but there with friends who won't stop and won't let them go sit and wait somewhere? So, you give this awful example. The metaphor itself is BS. People going on roller coasters itself is more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:29 PM
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Me too isn't like meant to carry the wave forward. It's one small campaign to raise awareness. When it's not effective anymore there will be another, and another.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:23 PM
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Ok. So, the physical differences causes by testosterone vs estrogen during puberty and beyond, aka muscle growth, is one thing. One individual thing separate from anything having to do with your generalizations about behavior. You say men are more prone to violence and fits of rage lol I say you really haven't looked at modern domestic violence statistics in straight relationships, lots of men get hit they just report at a fraction of the small percentage that women do when it's reversed. I say …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:18 PM
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The word you were looking for is humility. Arrogance isn't really good. Confidence is. Arrogance is going to drive lots of people away from you. If you don't understand the difference between arrogance and confidence... well basically confidence will draw about anyone and arrogance drives away most people, especially the ones who aren't arrogant and are confident so they don't put up with your bullshit either. Just saying. The entire point of arrogance is unjustified pride. Pride that doesn't st…
/r/seduction07/07/18 05:31 PM
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Men with stunted emotional maturity who refuse to be held accountable, accept adult responsibility, or exist in relationships that they do not have an advantage in the power dynamic so they can feel secure. Generally. Also men who feel entitled to things they aren't. Men who don't recognize their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 10:42 PM
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That was a John Mulaney quote and you should go check youtube for his entire monologue because that's my actual reply in full lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:20 PM
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No, not an echo chamber. A redpiller not so damaged by your ideology that he can't think his way out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:14 PM
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Why by the cow? That's not even a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:13 PM
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lol "The pride of being a man" No I do not have your childish pride, based in what I think I deserve only. I have pride in who I am, what I have done, and what I mean to those around me. That is a man's pride, if you'd like to know. Backup is your interpretation. It's a child screaming that he wasn't picked first at kickball. Are you kidding me? Did you really not grow up enough to not be upset you didn't get picked first for kickball?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:11 PM
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No it's not. Are you kidding? The history of the species? Lord. I think I'm gonna bow out with you. The history of the species jesus... The ease with which you accept broad generalizations with no basis in fact and can apply them across even all of human history... You are a flat earther. Your beliefs about how people work are as simplistic and irrational as people who believe in a flat earth. This is pseudoscience and bullshit and assumption and bias and straight up lies. And you are quoting it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:09 PM
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I didn't say it doesn't achieve the objective. Lots of people fall for emotional manipulation and artificially introduced power dynamics and such. I just said it's bad and that women are learning not to fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:05 PM
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You didn't make points worth addressing, no offense. Both of your posts before this one were generalizations you either pulled out of your ass or got told to by someone in a chain that originates at someone who pulled it out of their ass. I don't really feel like putting in a few minutes to google something to contradict you so I just ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:04 PM
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.... I know about your motivation levels because of how you express yourself and what you express. Call it a gift. I'm an empath. I can read people even just through writing. You got upset at me for calling them out (that isn't an attack, I feel bad about it, I just know I can't do a thing to give you motivation in the world) and at the same time in the same post you admitted that you do not have motivation to follow basic tenets... Like, dude idk what you want me to say at this point. Your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:03 PM
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Several friends who I lost to the manosphere and who I no longer talk to because their lives degenerated into hoarding, hermitage, and hating women on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:59 PM
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lol No, this is not how things work in America much less everywhere else. That said, I will admit that a significant portion of men have basically become undatable by modern feminist standards and there ARE a bunch of you who aren't going to reproduce. But all of your actual generalizations about how it works are so wrong it's nuts, kinda. Like, you talk about the party phase in a world where more than half of people never spend significant time in college. Your world and what you think women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:58 PM
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To see if there's anyone here worth trying to save tbh. So far, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:56 PM
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I have looked at your side. For years. I've studied it from the opposite side since it's inception. I've seen Red Pill be little more than a guise for a few charismatic guys at the top to use a community of privileged men who felt disenfranchised to harass and hate on the world around them. I've seen it change as the old voices started to fade out and it began to splinter into incels, mgtow, seduction, etc. The only thing keeping TRP afloat is that ultimately almost all of it is online only. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:54 PM
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lol I don't have an obligation to debate. Just because you follow those rules doesn't mean I have to. Scientific fact has little impact on Red Pill beliefs. I'm not trying to convince any of you who argue with me I'm trying to fish for people who aren't ruined yet to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:52 PM
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I have never seen a TRPer who ended up well rounded and success is subjective. The rest of your statement is nonsense. You questioned the existence of male privilege then talked about something that doesn't affect the existence of male privilege one way or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:50 PM
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This isn't true at all. This implies that all women find the same few guys attractive above all others which is not true. Even just when it comes to physical attraction women's standards vary wildly person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:49 PM
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There's a difference between male privilege taking rights away from other people and giving them to men and fighting that, and you not being able to get laid because you cannot relate to women on a level playing field and have them be attracted to you dude. I get it. Your life sucks and you don't know how to fix it. But...you don't have the mindset or motivation to even if you had a path. What do I want you to adapt to? I want you to let life be unfair and focus your time on two things. What you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:47 PM
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It's only an insult when you can't accept yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:44 PM
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lol I love that "female sexual strategy and selection" is a thing you think I am blaming on something. I stated a cause. That's not the same as blame. Know what the difference is? You say blame like there is a problem with female sexual strategy and sexual selection. I say cause like their strategy and selection are doing well and getting better daily and it's not something I have any judgment for towards them. So when you say "how many things can you blame on men" you are missing the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:44 PM
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Wow. Ok. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=touch+isolation+in+the+US http://lmgtfy.com/?q=male+stoicism+and+emotional+repression http://lmgtfy.com/?q=male+privilege+and+maturity https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=tS1C8Sl5ysEC&oi=fnd&pg=PA166&dq=male+stoicism+and+emotional+repression&ots=gkphzypY42&sig=dRZZYY62drtlDnB-MPsSSt1WliI#v=onepage&q&f=false That'll get you started. Three google searches and a book. Not all the sources are reputable, but plenty are if you do the work of reading. This is a deb…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:40 PM
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lol not when the proof is commonly available information you should be educated in before you step into the discussion. You don't get to walk in as a layman and demand sources, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:32 PM
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Women are not cars. They are not your property. You do not own them. You do not purchase them. They are not things that you get to decide what they do when they aren't even aware you exist. The level of entitlement required to treat this like a car with mileage... Only possible if you are a child with no mileage of your own
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:31 PM
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I'm confident because you have all put your collective thoughts out there enough for me to identify the common threads of immaturity. And at least in America, EVERY man is stunted. Sorry, did you not know that? Go read about touch isolation and emotional repression guy. This is not uncommon knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:30 PM
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https://www.google.com
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:28 PM
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Because there is only one type of woman above the age of 25 right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:28 PM
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Yeah no. No nuance, very incorrect. Women like sex with EXCITING guys. Some hot guys are exciting. At the same time, there are some attractive men haunting incels.me who are just too malformed socially to get laid. You don't get something though. I said women are tired of being your dumb sex object. I'm not hot, but I am exciting. I have two submissives and both are willingly my dumb sex objects. They are because they weren't dumb sex objects to me until they asked me to treat them that way in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:27 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:24 PM
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The fact that the effects of privilege and insulation from the lives and perspectives of others has been pretty documented. So has the effects of removing accountability. Yall display all of those effects. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:23 PM
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lol just because I use an overgeneralization to make a point doesn't make me a bad clinician. Generalizations have purpose when they're over 90% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:22 PM
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Only a child sits there whining about what other people have that he doesn't dude. Seriously. This right here is the exact example I am talking about. You are an intellectual adult. You have adult logical capacity, the ability to think in abstract terms to some degree, you have the knowledge of whatever experience that you can draw from and analyze. But then emotions come up and you are literally stuck on "it's unfair" Dude you can't have the experience of a woman anyway. She can cum harder with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:21 PM
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Stunted growth is something that is factual. I have my own mental illness, I have had to work to overcome stunted growth. You only perceive it as an attack because you are unwilling to look at yourself and even begin to think critically or try to improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:16 PM
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lol you obviously haven't reached the mature phase and you're asking about other people skipping it. Because people grow up over time nimrod. Just not you. Or anyone like you. I repeat again, no one wants you to be their cuck. No one wants you period, Women do not want guys who want women for what you want them for. Women are tired of being your dumb sex object and house cleaner and child raiser. It's you dude. You're the garbage dude they just avoid, both when they're fucking and when they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:15 PM
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lol. First off, appeal to authority is when you say "I am right because I have X authority" I haven't made a personal argument for authority. I stated that the clinical perspective on you is stunted growth, as oppossed to the more general view that there's something fundamentally wrong with most of you. I'm simply putting forth the argument that most of yall were ruined, not born this way. Use your logical fallacies right lol. Also, exactly how is stating how things are a self fulfilling prophec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:55 PM
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I really think that we need to move away from monogamy, not towards it personally. Monogamy IS the default. And people are deciding it's not for them. Giving tax breaks isn't going to make me date fewer women dude. It's not going to make the women who date me decide they each need their own husband now. People don't work like that in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:46 PM
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lol why do you assume that appearance is the primary reason women stop fucking their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:16 PM
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I literally just said that the ratio us 60% male doms 40% female dommes. Thats what that first sentence was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:46 PM
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If all you are doing is asking factual questions and learning factual things about a girl she's gonna lose interest fast. The purpose of questions is to draw out emotion. You find something she cares about and ask her about that. The goal is to find the right question to ask to get her talking about herself enthusiastically. If it's about a thing you can talk about enthusiastically too, and you're physically attractive to her... in my experience you've got at least a 1 in 3 shot at her choosing …
/r/seduction01/07/18 04:07 PM
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I don't have to rationalize it dude but thanks for acknowledging that I had no intentions of trying to talk to you like anything I say would penetrate your implicit bias and ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:56 PM
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Your world is awfully binary and one dimensional. Either you are or you aren't. The real world isn't one dimensional like your reasoning is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:14 AM
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Lots of women fuck men who are marriage material on the first date. What women mean and what you think they mean are worlds apart. Chris Hemsworth is marriage material. Ryan Reynolds is marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:18 PM
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I'm gonna be blunt. When women just want sex, looks have a much bigger part of the decision. Part of this is instant gratification, same as men. Part of this is that if they're not gonna care who you are they want to get something out of it. When women want anything more than just sex looks take a big back seat to who you are as a person. That doesn't mean they can't be important. But 40% of the picture is still the smaller portion. And some women it's more like 2%. Not kidding. On the other han…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:53 AM
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Pretty much anything having to do with being enthusiastic about having sex with me because of my body. I feel like I grow a few inches in height every time a girl tells me I have a pretty dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:41 AM
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Yall put straight girls on a pedestal way too damn long and they got used to being overcompeted for. It's nothing like universal but some women really do not understand reciprocal relationships. Those women should be rejected much the same as incels get until they learn to act right. Dealbreakers are dealbreakers. But there's always some dude who'll come along with no self respect who'll engage. So the cycle keeps going.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:37 AM
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lol Man-o-sphere activism is harassment Incel activism is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:03 AM
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Anecdotally no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:01 AM
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"Sounds like a plan, where do you want to meet?"
/r/seduction28/06/18 04:12 AM
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Yall must hang out with shitty people. Super feminist. I just figured out what girls I liked. Then I figured out what those girls liked. Then I figured out how to be more of what those girls liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 04:25 AM
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That she might be worth talking to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 04:21 AM
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Cheating would bother me, group sex would be another box checked under the "wife material" column.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:48 AM
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Dude if your entire life is concerned with doing better than you just did you will never appreciate anything. Mindfulness. Live in the moment once in a while instead of in future moments that may or may not come. I don't know what else to tell you like if you're happy with someone you just are you don't want to choose anyone else. Unless you're me and you're polyamorous in which case you really need to STOP choosing new people before it gets any more out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:46 AM
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Such a tired insult. Cuck. Really? lol in actual fact I fuck other girls and I tried to get my gf to fuck other guys but she's not really super into guys who aren't me so she's asking me to bring her girls home to play with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:53 AM
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Is this where I'm supposed to google a "A wild manchild appears!" meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:25 AM
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A truthful memoir of my life would be banned from...everywhere
/r/seduction26/06/18 05:59 AM
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Yeah there kinda is something sexist about associating strength and confidence with masculinity. Those things are not a male dominated trait. Violence and aggression, on the other hand, are very much male dominated traits. Not only are they male dominated, they are male culture reinforced (which is why surprise men are far more violent and aggressive than women on average) Toxic masculinity is the ideas that men themselves perpetrate as good that are not. Unhealthy behaviors that honestly we're …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:57 AM
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You subjectively describe it as Ghastly so there's no discussion to be had. Your ego requires that you be first and only. This isn't reasonable and is a very slanted view based on (usually) you not having sexual success like you want and rejecting people who have because of insecurity. You described a scenario that lacked any emotional...anything. Any links of emotional ties between the guy and the woman in question. Any ideas about what the guy wants or needs. The man in your question, scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:24 PM
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No. Your ideas about what masculinity and femininity are are rigid and rooted in sexism which causes you to define raising strong women as masculine and raising a boy who is in touch with his emotions as feminism. Further, you mistakenly confuse "emotional soticism and repression" for strength and think that independence is masculine rather than a natural result of properly raising any kid regardless of gender. You're looking at the example of a mother who is limited. No offense to her. I have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:15 PM
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That's some gold plated shit right there. And by shit I mean "stuff" not "excrement" Lemma 3 is about the most on point thing I've seen said in this subreddit. Nailed it on the head. Red pills is an unhealthy ideology attempting to substitute in for healthy growth that got denied when feminism shattered cultural narratives and left a vaccuum in it's wake because it's much more concerned with telling people what not to do than it is about setting a pattern for what men should be. The dearth of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 04:59 PM
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They date each other as well as me. Polyamorous Quad. So part of the responsibility of taking care of each girlfriend gets taken care of by their other girlfriends. I go on a date with one of them, the other two have a night in. Or I have a night in with one and two of them go out on a date. Or someone's at work and whoever is around is around and hangs out and has sex. The eventual goal here is one master bedroom and a REALLY big expensive custom mattress big enough for me, 3 girls, and a few c…
/r/seduction25/06/18 04:52 PM
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You're missing things. Women reject toxic masculinity and are very, very suspicious of men who display aspects of traditional masculinity because toxicity is so common. I'm not describing universal behavior, I am describing trends in women educated in feminism and who are exposed to or participate in online relationship discussions most places. The point is that displaying behaviors that people describe as toxic masculinity will get you excluded immediately now by lots of women. That displaying …
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:15 PM
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Thats not a baby step dude. Kinda act like you're starting over but with someone you're sure will let you hold her hand. Build a foundation of physical interaction and let YOURSELF get comfy because it sounds like she is much more comfy with it than you and you need to actually catch up.
/r/seduction24/06/18 08:11 PM
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lol dude... she's too much woman for you. You don't have the confidence or experience to lead her from the front so you're hoping that you might be able to "settle her down" "Make her feel more feminine... masculine presence" She can be feminine and a leader. In the BDSM community the Dom/Domme ratio is about 60/40. There are LOTS of women who are very feminine and very assertive, and you aren't as assertive as she is. I'm gonna be honest. If you wanna real man it, a real man knows when to lead …
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:31 PM
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Feels like she might be actively interested in sex in the moment, but isn't interested in more than that, and just keeps seeing if you get the message tbh.
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:20 PM
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Semantics
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:18 PM
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Sounds like you were not super emotionally responsive and there are lots of things she can pull from that. Being shut down gives her insecurities alot of room to take over and yell bad things at her. Bring up new plans. Tell her you want to see her again. Instead of getting bogged down in what might have gone wrong BUILD MORE POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH HER. Try to see if she wants to hang out again, even if it's not for a few days. Lock some plans down and go hang out again. Pull some middle sch…
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:18 PM
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lmao that works for me
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:13 PM
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lol I just gave you practical examples. Your reply is literally nothing but denial.
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:12 PM
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Masculinity gets neglected because it gets packaged with toxic behaviors and people would rather have no masculinity and not toxicity than both.
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:12 PM
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lol dude I have 3 girlfriends. Poly guy. This helps you get laid by helping you identify toxic behaviors, get rid of them, and keep the parts of you that are traditionally masculine that girls like and will respond to. Guess what men who exhibit masculinity without being toxic are? Attractive!
/r/seduction24/06/18 03:11 PM
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Yes. That last question? Can a guy be so low that he actually becomes less of a man? Ok so here's how this has started to work. Asking nicely didn't work. Saying "ok, treat us with respect, ask us and respect our no, don't expect things of us you don't give yourself" didn't work. Women tried. Most men didn't budge. Lots bit back against it. Throughout history men have made women fight for equality. We didn't hand it over or negotiate. The internet changed things. If you look at /r/relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 11:41 PM
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lol this got answered fast. Custody. The male dominated judiciary hands children to the woman moreoften most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 11:31 PM
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This is unscientific horseshit. It is so nonfactual it qualifies as gaslighting or propaganda and has no other intellectual purpose than those. The arguments are "well I've been in arguments where people say this or that and that CLEARLY means this other conclusion about leftists that I have no basis nor support for" and "I think that they care about what other people think too much" It has been proven that people from other countries experience massive culture shock at how mentally, physically,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:26 AM
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This just seems like complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:56 PM
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So cathartic? Dumping is dumping? You really have a disturbing need to cause someone emotional damage. Like you're basically asking if it's ok that you look at people to see if they are an opportunity for you to roleplay as negative karma in their life and fuck them up and talking about how much you hope you get to do that to someone. Like ok, someone did something shitty in a situation that didn't involve you and didn't immediately share it with you for fear of honestly a ton less judgment than…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:54 PM
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Women don't need exhaustive strategies dude. Women's teaching for approaching men is mostly about how to keep themselves safe and how to try to identify serial killers and rapists and how to protect yourself. Women don't need pickup or red pill they need "have a friend call you halfway through the date so you can bail if you need" and "men are less likely to attack you if you're carrying an object that can be used as a weapon like an umbrella or a nailbat"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:51 PM
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Use the internet more. Get in chat with girls in groups or one on one and just try to figure out conversation. Use whisper to just talk to random people. Use anything like that. Kik public chats. Anything. You need experience relating to people more than anything. It's gonna be different for you, but learning is essential and online is a good place for you to start. You need actual one on one conversations with girls. Try different approaches. Try talking to them like normal. Try telling them yo…
/r/seduction20/06/18 09:34 AM
1

Depends on what else you have to offer tbh
/r/seduction20/06/18 09:31 AM
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Lots of girls purposefully never go places drunk guys looking to pick someone up hang out anymore unless they're with guys themselves in a group or looking to get picked up and fought over. The kinds of guys who are there, angry, and hostile are the guys women are mostly trying to avoid permanently now.
/r/seduction20/06/18 09:29 AM
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Dude you have serious social anxiety disorder if not generalized anxiety disorder and it's fucking your life up. See a therapist and consider some anxiety meds. I am gonna take a chance and say that anxiety as bad as you've exhibited is at least a little evident to most people in your daily life and I gotta say kissless virgin dudes kinda have a way about them that you can pick out of a crowd if you know it. Even money shot she will not be the slightest bit surprised by your experience level. Fi…
/r/seduction20/06/18 09:28 AM
3

Work around them? That shit's poison, find a better social circle.
/r/seduction20/06/18 08:07 AM
2

Yes. Yes that is a massive part of it.
/r/seduction20/06/18 07:43 AM
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Social circles in high school generally start with a single friend who has other friends when you don't know anyone. Find someone who hangs out with people you like who seems like they might be a dude you can actually hang out with and have fun with him and then go watch "I love you man" and take him on a man-date. A good friend who has friends opens your world up
/r/seduction20/06/18 07:35 AM
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lol ok. Join the dark side and start reading about feminism, women's experiences, and go start asking questions in feminist subreddits about how women want to be treated day to day by men in all walks of life and such. Ask them why. Don''t be combative, don't argue, self educate. Come around to the concept that "nobody owes you shit" mentality has been fully passed on to women now and they can refuse to have anything to do with you unless you act how they want just like you can refuse to have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 09:13 PM
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lol I don't do either of those so find better ways to meet women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:35 PM
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Ok. This is anxiety and tbh you really need to talk to a therapist about it. Dealing with social anxiety in a healthy way... the coping mechanisms vary from person to person. Though Weed is honestly a good goto if you get something that won't couch lock you. There is also... when you freeze is your brain empty or is there like a bunch of thoughts that are negative somehow that you can't answer?
/r/seduction18/06/18 07:34 PM
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You freeze? Ever considered you might have anxiety, social or otherwise?
/r/seduction18/06/18 04:39 PM
1

I literally ignore the arrows And I'm pretty caught up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:37 PM
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Personalities matter a fucking shitload in dating. Like, so much more than looks for anything that is not casual sex or friends with benefits. The exposure effect is very real, if someone gets used to you whatever physical flaws you have become background in your appearance from their perspective if they like you. Attraction can and often does form this way. Everything about our lives is about who we are to each other. Most of our labels that we apply to ourselves and each other are about the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:36 PM
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"What should a man do when he doesn't get what he wants?" ... I just... I really cannot understand yall sometimes. It really boils down to the fact that men in this day and age have been taught and conditioned to believe that they deserve to get what they really want. Disappointment isn't supposed to be part of the equation. I don't get it. When a man doesn't get what he want's he fucking deals. He finds something new to want. He finds a new approach to get it that doesn't fucking hurt anyone el…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:33 PM
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lol Everyone is conditioned especially you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:20 PM
1

lol no I'm pretty woke it's lots of other white people I have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:04 AM
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God the low IQ "gotcha" moments are painful. "Look at you stupid fat american I outmaneuver you with your own words!" I'm sorry you have nothing better to do today. If you hadn't noticed by the declining wordcount of my replies I really do not care. But I'm nice so I won't leave you hanging until after this post. Good luck winding down that mischevious desire to engage in debate between third world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:26 PM
2

Where did you get black?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:19 PM
1

Then no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:13 PM
3

"Single data point proves generalization" is just so boring dude. You look dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:12 PM
1

You can't prove anything to someone who's basic ideas about life are fundamentally irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:10 PM
1

Does pimping subs out to friends (who we like get our kids together for playdates) for twenty bucks for shits and giggles in suburban America count?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 09:38 PM
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"I have the right to free speech" is what every idiot with nothing valuable to add to the discussion says. I'm not abridging your rights doofus I'm criticizing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 08:58 PM
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Christ it really is cult deprogramming to try to get a guy like you to understand the ways that women are that are a direct result of being conditioned by exposure to men and how we treat them. It's not "natural" thats what you call it to justify being a predator. Meanwhile "male subs are mostly low smv" translates to "I am literally spouting bullshit based on my straight guy opinion of what other guys mean to men" You're just like the rest. Very willing to take a single piece of information and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 08:57 PM
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lol Dude why are you talking about breeding I will convert your women to the true way and they will rise up with or without me there and bury you in your own blood :-*
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 08:11 PM
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I have my double bachelors and am saving for my next semester
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 08:10 PM
1

Ok and so is conditioning directed at women to accept male dominance soooooo.... In places women are not conditioned to accept dominance it's not so slanted. The Dom/Domme ratio in the BDSM community is about 60/40 most places you go and male subs are pretty common now that we've gotten to a point we can shout down the assholes pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 08:06 PM
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Uhh, no, not radfem. Rabid feminists. Radfems are TERFs. Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists. TERFS are to Feminists what you might say the KKK is to Christianity if you like Christianity and hate racism. Instead of the one true race TERFs believe in The One True Sex There Is No Gender and basically ignore everything doctors and psychologists say about Trans people because they want to protect their cisgender privilege. You know what lol. The experiences point though... I'm aware I'm not mainst…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 07:21 PM
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No I'll teach a girl feminism if she doesn't know but I only date people who are rabid about it. Have you ever considered that an increasing number of men are so disconnected from dating and normal social experiences that none of you have any idea how anything works and are just projecting your fears about how you think it works over everyone all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:59 PM
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I like how you have to throw on ugly. I don't date ugly girls dude. But you have to believe it because the thought that my little is hot, 5'2, 118lbs with gorgeous little B cups is too much for your brain to handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:48 PM
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My point is that this entire subreddit is about the social side of western society and you have no experience with it and do not live in western society... Like what is culture even like in Brasil I know yall have your entire own set of traditions and values that developed in many ways independent of white culture and yet you're here talking to us about western white dominated culture like you have enough understanding of it to call me ignorant when talking about it. My point is that you are 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:39 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:34 PM
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lol I love all of this mind reading. "I have never experienced this therefore it is not real despite tons of women talking about it and saying it's real and me just not looking at all of the people who would contradict my worldview" Sorry dude you're too biased to even begin to understand the world so I'm not gonna bother explaining it to you. Except to tell you that I am a dom with 2 submissives and they (and I) are all rabid feminists. Feminism and BDSM are not at all incompatible. But you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:28 PM
3

Ahh ok so you know literally nothing about our country except what little you've seen online
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:17 PM
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Is english not your first language or are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:08 PM
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I have no idea what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:17 PM
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lol if I actually had a nazi son the best he could expect is to be amish level shunned by the family. There's differing beliefs and there's you are a straight up violent threat to the world blood doesn't really matter anymore. But you acting like being a nazi is a difference of opinion is VERY illuminating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:17 PM
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Are you a flat earther?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:26 PM
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lol thats literally not any of the words or idea I said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:24 PM
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lol that's not how the world works when you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:20 PM
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I mean ok. Literally every year the pool of girls who graduate high school not feminists shrinks so I hope you let your kids think differently if you have some.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 03:54 PM
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Ok well here's the issue So I have a type. Specific type for me is bisexual, very slutty, interested in non monogamy, inside the top 1% intellectually in the world, and physically attractive. And bratty. Bratty is the clincher cause I'm a brat taming dom and even my non sub gfs are brats cause I just like em. This type of girl wants a certain type of guy. A guy I learned to be. So if I walk into a bar randomly as well dressed as I can be alone or with another dude? My "SMV" is probably like a 4 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 02:45 PM
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lol as feminists continue to drive our message home through everything from Marvel Movies to the effects of having every woman you've ever raped come forward at once to destroy your public life years later, much of TRP advice becomes a big glaring red flag that feminist women avoid. As the eventual goal is 100% feminist women, and as we are actively making progress towards that goal, TRP ideology will itself be a criterion for natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 02:39 PM
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lol yes I'm very aware of that that was kinda the entire point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 08:29 PM
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I kind of have a fantasy of pimping two of my girlfriends out to a friendly bachelor party (with the brides permsision) for a couple grand. So no sex work doesn't bother me one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:04 PM
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lol not attractive enough for that. If I was I'd have had a sugar daddy by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:03 PM
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It's fun when the overgeneralizations about women come from the type of women that INCELS overgeneralize about thus reinforcing their views that all women act this way based on anecdotal experience and personal preference and an assload of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:01 PM
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I don't know I've never seen one Thats a joke and also that's why I don't watch porn produced by studios anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:53 PM
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Its really not, but tall guys don't exactly complain if a girl we like has that one little issue of "well thats judgy but whatever it's not my problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:52 PM
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I'm blue pill as fuck but this is true. If you've got someone people want and they're loyal as fuck it's a good feeling and it's fun to show off. It's not in any way limited to attractiveness. Men who are proud of their wives professions brag on that. Men who are proud of their wives personality will brag on that. What this really boils down it is that people like to brag about shit they're proud of and some men are actually proud of the women they're with and show it off alot. Also, here's anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:44 PM
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I'm a serious Dom so enthusiastic consent is fucking key and we've got multiple redundant ways to check in during a scene to make sure it's maintained throughout. "I'm not sure I'm ok right now" is reason to hard stop an intense scene before it becomes "Ok I'm traumatized, help" I think that there are healthy ways to have sex when a girl isn't into it. All of them that I've seen involve explicit agreements between partners that are fully and immediately respected on both sides. Like girls who li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:31 PM
1

Size, nothing. Shape, lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:25 PM
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Hmm. Science like studied science? Like funded research? Not much. The government doesn't try to figure out how you should fuck each other they just busy themselves with laws about how you shouldn't and then very quickly ask to stop talking about the subject. Is there a method? Yes, actually. Step 1: Mindfulness People don't pay attention to each other. We've lost social cues and men especially have a hard time listening to others if it runs counter to what they already believe. You want to succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:17 PM
1

There is no breakdown. I look at a woman. I talk to her. I wait. I see how she strikes me. I ask myself "do I wanna?" My mind will figure it out. It'll tell me if I wanna. I know what questions my mind wants answered, I know what types of people I like and don't like. I know what physically attracts me and doesn't. I keep saying this. You look at life like you're trying to find a scale. "It all has to fit into a hundred percent" Try this. Every good thing is a bonus. Every bad thing is a minus. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:58 PM
1

Social circle game. If played right and the right social circle is developed you can have a bunch of women who are at least somewhat available to play with who are into it and the social circle itself draws in new people in ways that an individual person has to put a fuckload more effort into. But not everyone can do social circle game. You've got to be someone that everyone in the group likes to manage it. Genuinely likes cause you're talking about sex and intimacy even on a casual basis. You k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:50 PM
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lol. I'm 33 and I don't know when my drive is supposed to slow down but I can still fuck two to five times a day on good days. I just feel like as I'm getting older like if I don't have my depression shit handled I am not going to be in the mood. Like put the fucking lingerie away and come watch movie with me please let me get level. Then we can fuck. My drive is more responsive to things outside of me than it used to be. I'll say that. But like thats cause I learned to not be repressed so I'm m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:47 PM
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First I'm going to say that calling something "autistic overthinking" is intended to convey that you're convicned you're right and they're not going to challenge you on it because your conclusions are constructed by and filled with confirmation bias and logical fallacies and overgeneralizations that no one can make you understand aren't actually real or applicable to enough individual people to be worth discussion in the ways you intend to discuss this. An example of this being that incels tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:33 PM
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Touch, Words of Affirmation, Acts of service in that order. I suck at gifts and while I'm good at giving quality time I'm too ADHD to really receive it well. People usually have a strongest but that doesn't mean they can't be competent or even skilled in the others. Or fluent if you prefer. And they usually have a weakest. My girlfriend K is Gifts, words of affirmation, and acts of service in that order. She's weird with touch and long amounts of time spent lol. She'll fuck you twice a day but s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:18 PM
1

This is entirely up to personality and experience. The only real correlation there is that attractive people have more potential opportunity than unattractive people to get experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:16 PM
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lol you got told a bunch of horse shit by her angry ex boyfriend. He doesn't know shit. He's trying to start rumors about her so people treat her like shit because he got rejected. Believe me I run in BDSM circles and some of the most depraved, incredibly slutty people I've ever met are people who are very effective at giving you no clue they're like that in bed when they're outside the house. Especially submissives. They hide that shit so no one tries to dominate them without their consent. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:13 PM
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The biggest challenge for dating for women is that women are raised on self improvement. Constant self improvement. They are taught to look at and constantly be aware of every aspect of themselves. And as feminism gains traction in society and women take control of the process of self improvement and define their own self improvement goals, as this becomes a thing women were already taught as girls and they hit adutlhood already defining their own self improvement goals... Men aren't raised to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:51 PM
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No. This is all shit yall made up in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 11:49 PM
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Yes it does. The entire point of the question is how do guys who are openly abusive get reactions from girls and the answer is abusive guys sneak. What is posted doesn't resemble how things actually work at all and is a bad question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:51 PM
1

Nice if the girls I date would go anywhere near you dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:46 PM
1

You have no idea what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:06 PM
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Consensual partners? No. This is still way too simple a question. It's not taking into account things like predators learning who abuse will work on because it doesn't work on most women like that. Most abusers are not abusive fur a while. They hide it and lie and test the water and get her invested so she won't leave. At least I can feel good that you guys don't even seem to know how abusive relationships work first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:05 PM
1

Lol ok dude let's not post your masturbatiom fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:45 AM
2

It's true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:44 AM
1

That makez no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:44 AM
1

Factually untrue but hey why would you read one of the many easily available studies on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:43 AM
1

Kinky people tend to be emotionally healthier on average
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:06 AM
1

I don't think non consensual cuckolding is like a trend though. That's isolated abusive situations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:05 AM
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I don't think disrespect is the default. Especially in relationships with a bi male sub. Lots of women love helping hubby get fucked by a guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:04 AM
2

I only knock up my own girls lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:01 AM
1

OK but you're quoting a definition that doesn't reflect the kink in real life at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:59 PM
2

It's really not have you seen what girls who like bdsm are into?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:56 PM
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No women are by and large exploring anal and more and more are finding they like it. Like I'd say a solid 1/3 girls I sleep with asks for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:54 PM
2

You literally made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:51 PM
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And, again, no one is forcing you. Do you not hear yourself? You're getting angry women like a thing because that thing doesn't serve you. That's like deal breaker level self absorption
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:50 PM
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OK so you're disagreeing with the accepted common use why? To sound dumb and pretentious?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:46 PM
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Hmm, OK yeah but there are lots of guys who are into it. The other side exists. There are girls fucking other men cause their guys like it when they do when it's not really their kink. The world isn't the simple place you're pretending
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:45 PM
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So many assumptions. So much of your self worth is about some stupid male power fantasy I guess? Like it's coming through pretty clear that you do not feel secure in yourself and have to be better than others to be good enough for you. Sucks, I can see why this would set you off and trigger some inadequacy. But like, the world doesn't work like you just said it does. At all. You made assumptions about me... Dude I fuck like two or three new girls for every one the gf I live with does. And I mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:43 PM
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Your loss though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:37 PM
2

It's not cheating and literally no one is making you participate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:36 PM
1

That's not what cuckolding is though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:36 PM
3

The problem with this idea is that this had never been the pattern of any kink and isn't a pattern with cuckolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:35 PM
2

None of this is factual information except to inform us it grosses you out but thanks for the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:34 PM
1

As an experienced dom... Uhh no. First off even with societal conditioning the dom/domme ratio is about 60/40. Dominant women are anything but rare. Sub men/women is closer to 50/50 than that. There are so many good male subs out there. Bdsm appears without correlation to life situation. It pops up in all walks of life and all types of people. Most people who engage in bdsm I would say would much prefer things as they are than some kinda weird society where women are subs and sex is vanilla? Idk…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:30 PM
1

What's up. Hardcore feminist here. Being forward is fine and so long as you respect women's rights to not like it and stop or tone it down when told you're not hurting anyone. Know your audience. Baby step people into being forward. Be aware that there's a difference between being honest and forcing a woman to directly address your desire. But in all seriousness being yourself in a purposefully not offensive way and not having everyone like you isn't a feminist issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:22 PM
1

If you think that seeing a friend like a therapist would be cheating your ideas is what relationships are are so fucked I don't know how to sort you out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:13 PM
1

This is a ton of words to be alarmed that feminism opened the door for dom girls and sub guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:59 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:57 PM
1

I have bpd and stable relationships with three girls in a poly quad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:56 PM
1

No you dumbass, watching stand up like any normal human means when they mention a mutual interest
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:12 PM
2

I highly doubt he was infatuated. Obsessed maybe but she was there for the money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:11 PM
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Every year we get better at excluding that kind of guy from society. The kind of strong man you mean is being naturally selected
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:10 PM
1

I don't think status itself matters outside of the people at the top. I think many of the things that make up or add to status matter plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:00 PM
1

I have no idea but anecdotally it's wayyyy higher than anyone thinks. Like, one in three girls I talk to across the board is up for full sex with girls and a very large portion of those are biromantic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:56 PM
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I like being needed emotionally and financially I'm interdependent. Whoever is working, whatever money we get is communal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:54 PM
1

Yes those are all lies. Do you know what happens when you nationally insult a narcissistic manchild with access to billions of dollars?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:52 PM
2

I both have good taste and alot to offer in serious relationships so I kinda have never had a cheating issue. Lots of people do not deal with each other honestly. I don't go near those people. I don't do games and if a girl isn't genuine with me I lose all interest and investment. I've basically made myself into the kind of person that manipulative people avoid like the plague. I'm a scarecrow for bullshit. When you're only fishing in a pond with good fish even if it takes a while to get a nibbl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:50 PM
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Yeah and this needs to change. Not all strong men bully. And weak men do it too. Acting like unhealthy human behavior is the norm either represents an unhealthy attachment to and need for being on the upside of a power dynamic or a lack of empathy such that you really shouldn't act like a baseline for human interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:44 PM
1

I'm basically not attracted to anyone I can't have a fun conversation with. That's enough for a casual connection but I still look for connection with people. So yeah their experience kinda matters a ton to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:41 PM
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No, obviously stating that I dated her for a year, means it was not fuck buddies or fwb. It didn't work because it turns out sex and stand up are the only things we have in common day to day and found ourselves hanging out apart to do things we liked. It's perfectly possible to seriously date a sex worker, especially a cam girl tbh who can work from home and not be gone a bunch, without fights about work.
/r/seduction25/04/18 05:26 PM
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Ugh OK real simple. Guys are taught to repress emotion Repression stunts emotional growth Guys who are emotional are children Women aren't into kids Do you get it now? Emotional expression is great. Manchildren are not. Women are sick of boring men they can't talk or relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 05:21 PM
3

Dude it sounds like she tried to chase you, now she's trying to see if you chase her. You describe this as dating but are treating it like a hook up. If your signals are this scrambled who knows what hers are like
/r/seduction22/04/18 07:46 AM
1

Because I was dating her, not just a fuck buddy.
/r/seduction21/04/18 11:16 PM
1

Jesus christ your social interactions are a web of shit. I'm gonna be honest there's no way for you to pull a healthy relationship out as insecure and image conscious as you are. If I were you with your history I could totally walk up to this girl and start a relationship. You can't. Not like this. Even if she says yes it'll die cause you have no idea what non casual shit needs you to be. Like you did all this work to look better? Looks don't get old but they stop being enough real fast
/r/seduction21/04/18 08:28 PM
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I'm a serious dom with two subs. Shit takes work. Bdsm isn't like most kinks that are "find someone who's into what you're into and try it" Subs are surrendering control to you as dom. And because of how consent works, that submission can be taken back at any moment. So you, as dom, are responsible for being and maintaining a persona that she wants to submit to. That's not easy. Like, putting yourself in the hands of a guy who cause you pain and bruise you up is trust that has to be earned from …
/r/seduction21/04/18 08:19 PM
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Nah the sex workers I know just want a guy who can handle whatever they do and still have a normal relationship. I dated a cam girl for a year (parted well) who had a bunch of safe dudes who'd fuck her on camera. All friends, all respectful of our relationship. I helped a good bit myself lol and she paid more than half the rent and bills. A sex worker is just another girl who likes sex enough to make money off it. And hey she did girl girl and I got to fuck every girl she did stuff with about as…
/r/seduction21/04/18 08:09 PM
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Feminist man and only child but loooots of first, second, and third cousins I saw at least weekly my entire childhood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:04 PM
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My standards are way more specific than that. If she has a personality I mesh well with sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:03 PM
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No, stoicism and masculinity don't go hand in hand. That's like actually unhealthy as shit. You want to complain about the male suicide rate? Start there. That's how you create generations of mentally ill adult men. No the red pill in addition to a ton of things love bullshit Evo psych has things it believes that are in direct opposition to medical science. You're essentially trying to keep alive toxic and harmful (to the man more than anyone) views and ways of being that people like me are acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 03:16 PM
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Lol "almost a woman in terms of emotions" being emotionally literate doesn't make me feminine. Being emotionally repressed doesn't make you masculine either. Just mentally ill. Yeah I can totally see if you don't know how to talk to people and be vulnerable once in a while these things seem alien to you but lol it happens way more than people think
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:00 PM
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When it comes to human social dynamics... Ehh like 85% figured out for guy girl and girl girl relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:01 PM
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Lol I want what I have. Poly quad with three highly intelligent bi girls who date each other and share me 😊 The goal is one master bedroom and a bed big enough to fit four people and a few co-sleeping kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:49 PM
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Depends entirely on her context and approach. If I want her I'll take the money. If I don't and she's cute and nice I'll take the money. If I'm not into it I'm not into it but bring me ten grand and a viagra and a clean std test and I'll fuck anyone who isn't hideous lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:35 PM
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Jesus this is dumb. "Hey you know who we shouldn't listen to about how we behave?' "... No" "the ones we want to agree to have sex with us!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:28 PM
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What's up I'm a broke dude dating girls 10+ years younger. Lol you want to get it? Go listen to "guys my age" by Hey Violet. Seriously though younger women will date you seriously if you know how to treat them. And aggressively submissive? More than half but less than 2/3 are any kind of serious sub. I say this as a serious dom who has two subs under 21 lol. Women in my thirties totally want something to do with me BTW do you know how many chick's would snap up a dad as good as me for keeps? I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:26 PM
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If you're smart enough there isn't a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:18 PM
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I don't think any of you get what the cool girl actually is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:16 PM
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Men often have shallower standards. And women have different standards than men. A guy will marry a hot girl he doesn't want to talk to and be miserable. Girls want a guy they can hang out with as well as fuck. Girls date down in appearance more than guys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:15 PM
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I'd be fucking miserable I'm not monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:12 PM
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I'm full blue and my time here only makes me bluer Pretty much all the red pill arguments I see don't reflect reality. Like, I get along with women much better than men. Muuuuch better. Not to say I can't get along with men but like all of my friends are girls I hang out with and fuck or parent friends where I'm close with the mom. So I know women. I'm around them all the time, that's most of who I talk to one on one, and the ideas put forth by red pill are caricatures. Like in actual reality th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:01 PM
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It doesn't get much bluer than me. Sex is 17 total 16 girls and 1 guy (it's not my fault gay dudes are flaky af) Oral is the same. Anal is uhh... 7 girls and the guy. One night stands is zero. I don't think I've had sex with anyone less than five times including the ones that were just group sex partners. If you wanted though to do it by casual sex partners... 10 of the girls and the guy were casual/fwb Currently dating 3 of the girls who aren't at the same time. Past 12 months? I continued fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:43 PM
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The dom / domme ratio is about 60/40 and there are tonnnns of male submissives Statistics wise there's a fair amount of evidence for the dom /sub differences between men and women being socialized but dommes making up 40 percent of dominants is barely a minority. There are so many more dom women actually out there than you think. Your beliefs aren't fact based. Make subs are common af. Female doms less common but still relatively common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:16 PM
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I have three very serious gfs and two fwb because I'm a guy who's really in touch with his emotions and am able to talk to them about them. And it's poly and open. Everyone knows and is happy. My experience is that it's not showing "weakness" that turns women off its being the kind of guy who's dumb enough to think emotional vulnerability is weak
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:13 PM
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Umm no radfems are transphobes. That's specifically what they are. They aren't the same as low status males they're more like a cross between gamer gate and white supremacists. They're awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:20 PM
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She was the hot new girl at work and everyone tried to pick her up but I succeeded lol. Two and a half years later here we are. My other two I met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:17 PM
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You're asking why women don't want to be treated like objects dude. Do I really have to explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:12 PM
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Umm. 1) entropy is a physical thing. Physical destruction. It has nothing to do with social anything 2) no those aren't sustainable. Methods that use violent suppression to dehumanize others are not sustainable. That's why it's all breaking. Existing is not sustained. There's a difference. The thing is you can't see the consequences because they exist on a scale bigger than a human lifetime and you don't think well in those terms
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:19 PM
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The women go do not feel that way exhibit the damage associated with cult indoctrination dude. It's not relative at all because you are ignorant of or choosing to ignore everything we know about how people's minds work. Even the craziest Republicans are smart enough not to advocate the kinda stuff you do, because they know it is fucked up and ethically wrong and impossible to sustain but you're here in defiance of all recorded history saying "but what if a situation that can't exist existed"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:59 PM
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"people are individuals with tastes and boundaries and men ignore those and treat women like objects and women want to avoid that" "why tho..."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:55 PM
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What it like to call documented history "bilge"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:32 AM
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I'm trying to flesh out their idea of attraction into something more complex and that better resembles how the process works through peoples minds, both the voluntary and involuntary parts. The idea that incels and to a slightly lesser degree TRP pushes often is that women operate primarily off of physical attraction. Some do, but most don't and attraction is much more a composite sketch of the three draws I mentioned. I've gotten the tingles but only around people who I understood well enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 12:17 AM
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Ahh see you're talking about interesting in a passive sense. I'm speaking about it in an active sense. The act of being interesting. You can be an introvert and be interesting, it's easier to manage as an extrovert admittedly, but it's about what you do in the room dude, not just who you are on paper which is what you're talking about. 90% of dating and sex is how you express yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 12:08 AM
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Way too general of a question to actually competently answer without lots of examples on both sides to analyze.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:32 PM
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Yeah I was right then and this guy is right now. Nice guys get laid plenty when they're interesting people. Nice guys who call themselves nice guys because there's nothing else interesting about them to put forward get ignored alot of the time. Also being comfortable and relaxed draws people in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:30 PM
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Yeah and the entire point is that maybe we need to seriously move away from systems that require human suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 10:25 PM
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I don't only count female suffering, it's just what we're specifically talking about. Nice attempt at deflection though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:39 PM
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It's funny because you said that and I'm pretty sure the ideology of feminism is what you're referring to, having no respect for facts or history. But really it's patriarchy that has pretended this is a man's world all along and ignored the contribution of half the world. It's patriarchy that elevated invention and then assigned the role of child and house care to women and ignored the contribution to society that turning out well adjusted inventors is. It's men who denied the capabilities of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:37 PM
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Existing through violent oppression is not "sustaining itself" it's tyranny. That's not goal post moving. That's factual. That's "witch burnings were literally the church disposing of intelligent and assertive women to punish resistance to male domination" You are acting as if that kind of shit is "sustainable" That is fucking stupid. Or else, you genuinely have no problem with enslaving half of humanity and this conversation is pointless because you're the kind of awful person who really should…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:18 PM
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If you know how to be respectful of boundaries and personal space interacting with women literally has not changed in the last decade tbh. Just my personal experience. Oh and the girlfriend I live with I met at work 2 years ago and we swung together before we started dating, while still working together at the same job every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:14 PM
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1) Because they are emotionally stable enough (hopefully) for a girl to date long term 2) Don't know what dread game is 3) Umm I kinda have developed a habit of finding girls in abusive relationships and convincing them to cheat with me and leave their boyfriends. I don't date them I just fuck them and provide emotional support and get them to move back in with their parents. Being a taken guy in an open relationship in a world where lots of girls want steady sex without the complications of emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:29 PM
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I don't get many matches on Tinder but get really good results in person so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:23 PM
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Emotion is the way to go if you want to get laid. Women love men who are emotionally vulnerable without falling apart. They engage emotionally with you and attraction and chemistry forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:22 PM
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Personality matters alot more than anything else you bring to the table now. Women want men who like them as people and want to hang out with them and have fun doing things with them both before and after the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:21 PM
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You are amazingly smug for someone who is literally pretending history and women being chattel for most of the last 2000 years isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:55 PM
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How do you legislate and enforce the precise force allowed to be used on a child? You can't. What, do you allow eyewitness "I just think that was too hard" testimony? You can't come down on that side well what they do is they determine the effects on the kid. Bruises are an effect. Emotional or mental damage is an effect. Abuse by and large is determined, especially in a court of law, by the effect on the child. Most of our laws excepting egregious actions that are cut and dried are about the ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:51 PM
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Hahaha Yeah no. No that's not true at all. Not even the tiniest bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:40 PM
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Nowhere in the islamic world is it working. Women there are still fighting for their rights. Women there are abused and murdered for stepping out of line. Those countries have some of the worst on record abuses of women's fundamental human right just to be safe from attack. Your example is one where women are treated like property and often broken like slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:27 PM
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Name a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:38 AM
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No I'm literally trying to explain to you why this is bad. Like, what consequences it has in the real world. It's also history. This is how shit works under patriarchy. It's unsustainable because allowing too much control over another person allows you to hide abuse easily. It's what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:30 AM
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That patriarchy is inherently unsustainable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:29 AM
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Counterpoint. I am not monogamous. Lots of people I know, in fact most everyone I see regularly that's not like a parent of one of my kid's friends swings or has an open relationship. Some people love sex. Like, as a concept, as an expression of humanity, whatever. We treat it like it's deep and meaningful because fuck why not if your emotions and perceptions work that way and you're really fucking horny all the time then why not be a slut? As a man who is a slut, I need a woman who is at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:10 AM
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Focusing on relationships and sex, I tend to only date people I have fun with, and that translates into sex. Fun sex is pretty easy to have as long as you have things in common. The emotional sex comes in later and sure it's more powerful, but the fun flirty early relationship "eating her pussy in the passenger seat for a few minutes before we go to studio movie grill" sex is worth not missing. Generally, I also kinda gauge sexuality and interest that way. If a girl CAN wait longer than three da…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:12 AM
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The flip side to that is that not all men are considerate. So I'm going to pretend that history doesn't exist and that we aren't in a place where women get treated like shit by men largely because men having power over women is so ingrained and traditional that men can still often get away with abuse without consequence. So let's talk about something else that'll probably drive you up a wall. Spanking. We know, scientifically, that spanking causes impaired brain development. There have been stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:02 AM
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This is the weirdest post I've seen on here yet, and yet it does make a valid point that TRP isn't trying to control women, merely how men treat them. It advocates avoidance rather than control when it comes to women who don't act like TRP wants them to. That said, patriarchy is basically slavery by gender and is by the definitions you laid out objectively worse so I don't know what the point of this post is except to quietly declare yourself as someone who's worse than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:16 AM
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No, mental and emotional aren't the same. Mental attraction is your attraction and desire for who a person is. Being attracted to someone because they are a doctor is a mental attraction. Or a police offficer. Or a Dominant. Being attracted to someone because they're intelligent. Or because they're politically in line with you. Emotional attraction is the attractiveness of intimacy with a person. Do you want to share with them? Do you want to be vulnerable around them? Do they make you feel safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:28 AM
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I really don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:25 AM
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See I think sexual attraction very much can be a choice. Lots of people rationalize their way out of being sexually into someone even if they still find them physically attractive and stuff, and physical attraction and sexual attraction are definitely not just one and the same. Dom/Sub dynamics are simple proof of that. Sexual attraction based entirely around who someone is to you, and the atmosphere and experience they can bring to the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:23 AM
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Hmm. For the sake of discussion, on the one hand lots of people choose not to be attracted to 16 year olds. They look at the attraction from all sides, look at the adult things they want in a partner that a 16 year old might not have, and it's just not attractive to them. Lots of other people quietly give themselves permission to be attracted to 16 year olds. But... let's talk about practical terms. If I say that it's a conscious choice, I also have to allow for the previously mentioned people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:00 AM
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No, that's orientation. I'm bisexual I would know this. Orientation, what gender(s) you're attracted to is not a choice. And let me put it this way. Can you turn off your critical thinking and act impulsively on attraction? Can you chose for it to not be a choice? I guess. That's really just being someone who says yes to attraction pretty much every time. I date a girl like that. She's a true slut. The good kind who just wants to spread sex around to as many people as possible. That's not how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:37 AM
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Some (a minority) of women don't care for sexual attraction. Tinder is like less than 10% of the active dating population just in the US. Tinder culture is not how people look for sex or relationships most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:27 AM
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That's what I was saying. That sexual attraction is made up of a mix of the other three. It can be lopsided. It can be mostly physical. You can meet a professor who's an expert in your field and want to fuck them and it's mostly mental. You can want to make love to a partner and it's mostly emotional. BDSM and kink are largely mental attractions between partners, with emotional still being more important than physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:07 AM
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Women are attracted to men who accept criticism without defensiveness or insecurity. Men who can figure out the shit they did wrong and fix it without being dragged through it or hand held. Women are attracted to self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 11:09 PM
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Then don't. It's free information.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 11:08 PM
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If it takes longer than a week to have sex regardless of the amount of contact I'm losing interest tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 10:41 PM
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Alright lets explain the basic concept that you and most men seem to not understand. Respect and boundaries. Men quite often until and unless they love a woman will view her as a sexual object. Many men, even love doesn't change that. Objects don't have their own boundaries. So a woman is in a bar. She is looking for casual sex. A first guy walks up to her, she doesn't like his look. He's tried to catch her eye and she's looked away. He smiles in a friendly way "Hey, you want to get a drink?" Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:11 PM
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=)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:14 PM
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Will I be hotter than I am now? Yes if yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:56 PM
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The amount of evidence required to convince you most people are a certain way is both hilarious and alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:43 PM
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"I made an assumption. It's sound" I guess I'm just going to have to assume that your reading comprehension isn't up to par because I've like explained things to you several times and it bounced off like trying to explain to a scientologist that thetans aren't real. Whatever. Have fun being a little unbalanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:25 PM
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I've been debunking TRP for about a decade now dude. Just because I'm new to the sub doesn't mean I'm new to Reddit. Remember anderson cooper and pedogeddon? I'm one of the SA forum goons that helped put that together and ruin /r/jailbait. lol it's not new, though it's grown a few more arguments, and if you want to rise to me telling you that the shit you're saying is stupid I guess be my guest. 'Cutting to the chase and stripping the bullshit" is another way of saying https://en.wikipedia.org/w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:03 PM
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It is an advantage with size queens. Women have internal sizes too. Some girls have bigger, deeper pussies just like some men have bigger cocks. Those girls can take 9 inches balls deep and love it. Other girls, that 9 inch monster will stretch them so badly they will have trouble sitting. Some girls like that feeling, most do not. Some girls are too short inside and being stabbed in the cervix really hurts the shit out of them. I have a 6 inch dick that's like 5.2 inches around? Barely above av…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:59 PM
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Men chase beauty far harder than women do. Also your standards of appearance do not match most people's I'm pretty sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:55 PM
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nooo you're missing the point of that entirely. There is not a surplus of high quality men who women are ignoring or who are ignoring women. There is a surplus of low quality men that no one wants. Like, you're focusing on jobs. It's not about jobs. More than half of millenials are living paycheck to paycheck. It's more important that the relationship be stable and happy so that you can survive poverty together than it is to find a guy with a high paying job because there straight up are not eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:53 PM
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That's kinda what I was pointing out, yeah. Lots of guys forget that it's other men who set the rules up in society much of the time. Men run most companies, including the advertising ones and media ones that dictate a ton of how people see themselves and each other. Men make the major decisions most of the time when it comes to how things are viewed and treated in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:41 PM
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lol the goalpost moving You think women are mostly similar. Well, the data doesn't bear that out even within the same culture much less across other dissimilar cultures. Standards of attractiveness vary the world over for men and women and have varied as well throughout history. All of that information is readily available and easy to find, but it's not a part of your processing. Again, your view of the world is too small. You said yourself 'I made the following conclusions about most women base…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:37 PM
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Actually this is a red/blue pill debate forum. Even TRP knows blackpill is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:31 PM
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Actually I can name like fifty, but here's 5. 1) Confident, soft eye contact generates positive feelings in others 2) Successfully creating a positive touch association with others makes them more likely to see you as a potential sexual partner 3) Being consistent is far more important than making huge gestures. Being consistent with the occasional huge gesture is how you end up in a healthy marriage. 4) Men think strength means you're threatening. Women do not. Think about that. 5) Every woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:40 PM
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This is a good post and I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:29 PM
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"Women use Tinder, therefore my argument is valid" Lots of women also refuse to use Tinder because of the ways guys behave on it. In fact, Bumble exists exclusively because women had issues with how men act and gave women more power to be selective over...guess what? Personality! See this is where my whole "vague and meaningless" statement gets really specific. Tinder is part of the world. It is a part of the world. It is not a majority part. And he had 190 matches. How many of those were just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:26 PM
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1) It is factually true that female predators are far less likely to be coercive, to blackmail, etc. Usually just some casual seduction does the job if the kid isn't already interested in her. This results in incidents between female teachers and male students harder to demonstrate as directly harmful without the male student's direct testimony that he believes he was taken advantage of and was damaged by it. Judges sentence mutual "We care about each other" and even "We were just having fun" mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:51 PM
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And I can get 2 matches or 30 in 24 hours depending on how well I put together a picture as an average guy. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC DATING MEDIUM THAT PUTS MAXIMUM EMPHASIS ON VISUAL APPEAL. A LIMITED PLATFORM THAT REPRESENTS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF DATING CULTURE AS A WHOLE, MUCH LESS EVEN ONLINE DATING CULTURE. TINDER IS NOT THE WORLD. Jesus Christ is this hard to understand? And the point has been made, repeatedly, that these were initial responses. They aren't proof of women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:35 PM
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You're acting like a ton of the women I have group sex would wouldn't date me in a heartbeat if I was seeking new romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:20 PM
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So are you not able to understand that like twenty cherry picked tinder responses from a major city doesn't represent women as a whole in even the vaguest representative sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:19 PM
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I'm genuinely amazed that you can have your ideas publicly debunked and still manage to be this smug. Really shows how information doesn't penetrate the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:54 PM
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Guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:19 PM
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lol you don't even realize that while not insignificant the number of women who even HAVE a "fuck only" box is a minority in the world. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Overgeneralization Here, this should at least get you started understanding why you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:18 PM
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Hahaha It's so cute when someone tries the "I'm just gonna smugly talk over you until your self esteem implodes" approach. Because online matching apps are the only place to meet dates now am I right? Oh you're SO SMART citing Tinder as THE place people go to date. It's the end all be all of human interaction now! Or maybe...maybe Tinder culture is it's own specific isolated thing that has alot less bearing on how anyone works outside of instant gratification "swipe right" dating culture! You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:17 PM
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Ok, you have support for "some" women will do this. Most? No. Most don't. There are legions of women who don't subscribe to the Americanized version of what TRP thinks all women are. And there are legions more who work very differently in specific ways like girls who are happy to fuck a hot guy but only if he's nice. And you aren't around those.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:03 PM
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lol "Muh sample size" like that isn't relevant. Yeah, you massive dumbshit. Your "hey hot guys get an initial message easier on Tinder" experiment shows literally nothing about how anyone interacts with anyone else on even a first date/hookup basis. It literally shows nothing other than attraction creates extra opportunities for interaction. That's it. It's not an analysis of male or female behavior, it's just a simple datapoint in support of statistics that are already well researched and that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:51 PM
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Even if every one of those messages was real (something I highly doubt incels and TRP have a long history of faking things up to and including throwing out statistics on one thing and claiming they measure something else and making fake convos) that amounts to a tiny, tiny ass sampling of just the people on Tinder in one city. The fact that hot guys do often get pussy thrown at them doesn't prove literally anything else, nor does it disprove a single word of what I've said. Except the one thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:32 PM
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Not where I was going with it but I guess. My dating life is what I want it to be though so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 11:18 PM
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Five plus years ago Seddit was a hive of rapists swapping stories about isolating women, plying them with alcohol, and gaslighting them effectively enough past repeated nos to rape them without them feeling taken advantage of enough to press charges. And then, you know, the feminists attacked. We tore their threads apart, we looked for any admissions of crime we could follow up and report to authorities, we made a huge stink about it, and eventually the community had to shave off the rapists and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:59 PM
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Yeah no the entire point of the changes you see now is that this isn't sustainable and hasn't been. Things haven't changed because men still by and large control the world, legislation, and money. Change is a generational process dude, you're not going to see equality in ten years. Shit doesn't ever work like that. Wish it did, but it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:54 PM
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yeah noooooo So far as I experience women evaluate sex completely separately from every other part of you. Hot, not hot, smart, not smart, successful or not, all of these things matter to some degree and sex is the same. It's entire own category. Truth is lots of the hottest guys are fucking terrible in bed because sex comes easy and they get to be kinda selfish about it. Every time in my life I have ever met a girl with a serious love for sex and a long kink list she picks personality over look…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:48 PM
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Yo just so you know attachment styles are made, not born. Secure attachment is when your kid trusts your love and presence, insecure is when they can't count on it all the time, and avoidant is when they have no presence of trust and love to rely on. Secure is the goal, insecure happens when things go wrong, people who are avoidant basically cannot have relationships with others that are healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:44 PM
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Alright so lets teach you about abuse education. I've been present in online relationship discussions for fifteen years now. A trend that started then and that you can still see in /r/relationships is people coming and asking "Is this abuse? Is this ok?" and discussions as to what is and is not abusive behavior have been taking place for more than a decade now. These conversations developed their own meta. Agreed upon rules of relationships. Much of these conversations were women talking about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:35 PM
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Let's start with "shit test" Language matters, and a woman's evaluation of you (no matter what form it takes or how she approaches you with it) is a shit test. Hostile to you by default. Women are opponents. You're discussing strategy. Planning how to "get sex" It's all super dehumanizing man. I really don't know how to make that bit any clearer. The level of dehumanization you guys engage in makes me viscerally uncomfortable. Angry at times. Everyone deserves to be treated better than you guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 07:08 PM
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There is no way in hell I could afford the amount of sex I have making 40k a year if I went to prostitutes. Especially the kinky shit? Do you know how much it would cost to find a girl as hot as my girlfriend who wanted to fuck bareback, make out, get tied up, cum in any hole... and that's the tame stuff. It would cost me probably at least 10 grand a month to maintain a hooker who fucked me at least 3 times a week and let me piss on her in the shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:34 PM
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I really hope this is sincere. As a troll it's dumb and unoriginal but if you actually believe this that makes you a truly rare, special kind of stupid. Denying intimacy and treating it like currency falls under emotional abuse fyi so most women would never be willing to consider doing that to a partner. That's a little like switch in your brain that doesn't flip because you apparently lack empathy, which is not super uncommon in the west but neither are people like you anything like a majority.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:28 PM
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https://dominantlife.tumblr.com/post/67696583510/50-cunnilingus-tips-from-women Read that first. Master that list and your oral game will be remembered by every woman you get to use it on. Start everything gentle and slowly increase in intensity. Fingering, fucking, eating, etc. Steady pace is better than awkward and jerky so if it's not working slow yourself back down and start over with something. Remove her clothes yourself. Stripping a girl down is an experience and it's better (imo) than un…
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:02 PM
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I meet all my dates on social media. Facebook, tumblr, tinder, whisper, kik. Anywhere that lets you organize with locals is a potential place to meet new people to be attracted to. All you have to be able to do is hold solid text conversations.
/r/seduction22/02/18 08:51 PM
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Situation 1? You've got a girl who's down and another you're not sure. Bring up the threesome to the girl who's down. Ask her if she's into girls and tell her you would love to watch her play with one. Talk it up gently, gauge her reaction, and have her help wingman it. Having a girl on your actual side and down for the threesome multiplies your chances by at least 10. TBH I've only ever had success with arranged though. I date bisexual girls who want to fuck women anyway so in the end from my p…
/r/seduction17/02/18 08:21 PM
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Yeah no this is really bad advice. These days, you go too aggressive and you're risking making her uncomfortable and there aren't second dates after that. And ASKING A WOMAN WHAT SHE WANTS IS NOT SHY. You don't have to be a fucking chode about it and whisper out "may I please touch your boobies?" jesus use words effectively.
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:55 AM
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Why would you stop giving girls who are looking for a way to interact with you a chance to do so?
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:47 AM
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Golden rule: Straight up asking if something is ok is better than both not trying anything, or trying something and her not liking it in 95% of situations. Support rule: Breaking an action into smaller individual actions makes things easier on everyone. In simplistic form it's easier to have sex with someone if your first kiss isn't planned to happen as you unbutton their shirt. Take things in steps. If the steps are smaller, take more of them over time. Support rule 2: If you do something and y…
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:43 AM
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Oh this one's easy. Arrange a day to spend together in bed. Like, order pizza, have access to movies you both like viewable in bed, and do not get dressed the entire day except to grab your pizza. Hang out. Like, actually just hang out naked. Chill, watch movies, cuddle, fuck intermittently. At some point being naked and having sexual access to each other starts to feel normal. Your head is getting in the way of your dick, so give your head some time to adapt to the situation and your dick will …
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:37 AM
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You know attraction has to develop, right? I don't even... you yourself in the same post talk about not being able to understand the language of attraction and then said "I didn't see what I was looking for so I stopped talking to her" I feel like I need to reach back into the 90s for an agent smith meme. "How do you expect to fuck a girl if you cannot...speak..."
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:34 AM
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You're pretty out of touch with women if you think they don't fantasize about the storybook ending. What happened since the internet? NETWORKING Men and women both have the ability to seek partners they'd never run into in their normal lives. Life used to be about who you saw face to face. Telephones connected you to people you knew face to face who you couldn't see right this second. The internet connects you to strangers. It lets you be remarkably specific about who you're attracted to. Women …
/r/seduction16/02/18 05:43 PM
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Go to strange places a ways away from where you live where you never go and practice making friendly eye contact with women. Like, seriously. Just try to catch a woman's eyes and if you do, raise your eyebrows and smile a little, and then look away. You seriously have to get used to the feeling. You might look a little crazy. That's why you're in a strange public place. Don't stare at anyone, don't freak out, and if you get anxious have a book or go through your phone for a few minutes or go som…
/r/seduction16/02/18 05:22 PM
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Take the open invitation. Call the second girl, ask her out and tell her you're busy this week and want to go out to dinner next week. Sleep with the first girl with a hook up understanding and tell her you've got alot of shit going on at work and if the sex was good you'd like to come over a few more times this week and fuck her stupid so you can concentrate at work, see if she says yes. Remember, you never know who's going to assume exclusivity and who's not. So make sure you bring it up in a …
/r/seduction16/02/18 05:18 PM
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You start a conversation, find a way to naturally segue it towards sex and dating, and you ask her about her opinion of FWB and what she's looking for in her life, if anything. If you can't feel your way through a conversation enough to successfully ask her about those things and feel her out on it about the only other thing you can do is just bring up your specific interest and see where the chips fall. Just throwing it out there like that, though, rarely gets a good response. You're basically …
/r/seduction16/02/18 05:12 PM
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I hate the term abundance, let's talk in terms of possibility. Ever been on OKCupid? They have all those questions, and when people answer a bunch they get match percentages. You might have a few in the 90s, 80s and 70s are more frequent, and at least I rarely find someone under 50% who's answered at least 50 of their little questions. The thing I'm pointing out is that the general trend is that people are alike enough to find something in common with just about anyone, and that the closer to a …
/r/seduction16/02/18 05:05 PM
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You don't know shit about how women work dude. OP talk to your boy, you might find he's got some darkness he needs to do something with.
/r/seduction01/02/18 08:22 PM
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STDH.txt
/r/MGTOW03/07/17 04:00 PM
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Neediness is a demand. You can't turn down a need without provoking a negative reaction because someone's needs weren't met. When someone is needy immediately it shows they have issues with meeting their own needs as an independent adult. Neediness happens in established relationships plenty. At that point there is an agreement of interdependence whether it's spoken or unspoken (or there should be) but when you get slapped with it right out the gate you see that this person in front of you is no…
/r/seduction28/11/15 08:49 PM
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I'm not entirely sure why something got bolded...
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:18 PM
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This is basically your ideal answer. To put it in a wider context, asking why is open ended. Open ended questions which can be explained often are, non open ended questions are questions which have a short direct answer. The most basic short direct answer questions are yes and no. "Do you like __?" and "Have you ever done ___?" and such. Why is great. But you can also ask what and how pretty easily. The only thing this answer is missing is what exactly the difference between a small talk questio…
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:17 PM
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It's incredible how your endpoint of "Well I got laid, see, it's possible!" completely misses the point that you're kind of a self centered douche who cares more about getting his dick wet than anything else. The fact that not every girl is going to recognize that before she sleeps with you doesn't make you right. This experience is what is known as confirmation bias.
/r/seduction19/01/14 06:15 AM
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Ugh. You shouldn't have kicked her out. You're lying to yourself pretending that you kicked her out because you didn't want to harass her. You kicked her out because once sex was off the table her company became a stressor because you were horny and she wasn't doing what you wanted her to do to solve it. It was entirely selfish. "Overcoming Last Minute Resistance" is worse. It's making the direct assumption you know better than them and asserting that physically. You want to talk a girl out of h…
/r/seduction12/01/14 05:08 PM
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Two more attempts, and he did so by just trying. No, he didn't have a "good reason to think the situation had changed" You're doing mental backflips to justify going after your own goal to get laid regardless of what a woman directly expresses that she wants. You're making assumptions based in a perspective of "I know better than they do what they want" and pretending that because some people sometimes might think what you think they think that then justifies you acting like they're thinking tha…
/r/seduction12/01/14 12:26 PM
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Continuing to initiate sex makes women feel like you will not take no for an answer. It shows that you feel like you have the right to change her mind for her, which is disrespectufl. It puts a woman in a situation where she is isolated and vulnerable in a position to have to be confrontational in order to get you to stop. You're basically relying on The Implication to get laid. That makes you a piece of shit human being. Women do not need you to convince them or make up their minds for them. Wo…
/r/seduction12/01/14 12:55 AM
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Uhh, you aren't doing anything wrong by not getting laid in those situations dude. I just talked somewhere about how people don't bring up LMR anymore and here you are asking about it. Fucking hell. When a girl says no it's not that she's putting up some kind of obstacle for you to overcome. You didn't fuck up, and whether or not you slept with either of these girls you did the right damn thing by not initiating further. Women are not a program or equation where you got the inputs slightly wrong…
/r/seduction11/01/14 10:06 PM
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Yeah, probably the validation thing. The thing about your buddy is that he is completely confident and wears that confidence like an extra set of really nice clothes that never come off. People wonder why women go after attached guys, and it's not that they can sense a guy is with someone, it's that they can sense the self confidence and self possession a guy has that occurs when he's got a partner and isn't insecure about it. That's not the only place that confidence comes from, but it's one of…
/r/seduction11/01/14 09:46 PM
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Can I take a second to feel good about how far the seduction community has come in the last few years on this website? So many comments about not getting her too drunk, recognizing that you don't have to get a girl wasted to initiate, even a post with the word "consent" in it. They're right. Initiate early. Be flirty from the get go. Break the touch barrier. Smile at her. Get yourselves laughing. Do something goofy. Compliment her. All the usual shit. If you're really ballsy you can try some kin…
/r/seduction11/01/14 09:28 PM
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Use your friend as an introduction. When you go to house parties, start with what you're comfy with and go from there. So chat up guys, make some new buddies. Find some dudes you have things in common with, guys you could potentially hang out with without being at a function your roomie invited you to. Being social opens up new social circles for you to hang out in, and when you can walk up to a mixed group and greet two or three people in a circle of 8, the rest of the circle sees that you're a…
/r/seduction11/01/14 09:20 PM
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The funny thing is that with one exception none of this is game. Self improvement is not game. It's self improvement. Game is being glib in social situations, projecting confidence in uncomfortable situations (approaching someone you don't know without looking like an idiot) and so on. That said, 1 and 2 are absolutely right. Keep yourself in shape and get/have a life, basically. 3, it's not about leading so much as taking the initiative and having an opinion. And coming up with new ideas. When …
/r/seduction10/01/14 09:41 PM
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Oh good lord... The first glaring problem is that you're looking in the wrong places. I have no idea where those wrong places are, but if they weren't wrong you wouldn't be meeting the kind of guys you describe. The second... you're friggin spergy about this. Seriously. "Looking for your perfect mate" and "Profiling with my psychology degree and specialization in nonverbal communication" and such. When guys do this the usual response is "Beep Boop You're a robot! Romance is not a formula!" Excep…
/r/seduction10/01/14 09:28 PM
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Be interesting and hilarious. I'm a nice guy. I don't ever do the "I don't care" keep aloof thing. If I'm interested I act interested. If I'm attracted I act attracted. I too have gotten to an age where I don't have the time for and have better things to devote my energy towards than game playing. I just have things to talk about. I'm funny and I make girls laugh. And I'm confident in myself. If a girl isn't interested that's fine with me, it means not compatible not that I don't measure up. Tha…
/r/seduction27/12/13 08:16 PM
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Genuine approach is a good point, as is not letting random people impact your self esteem when you're out having a good time. You can't control whether or not someone tries to embarass you, but you can control whether or not you let yourself lose your head and actually be embarassed. A point that's worth bringing up is self evaluation and evaluation of friends. Wingmen who's opinions you respect are always a good idea. If you're out of line, they can bring it up outside of whereever you're meeti…
/r/seduction19/12/13 12:53 AM
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Length is fine. Organization is the problem. It's one long speech. Divide it into topics, separate with some kinda formatting. If you have to re-order things or break paragraphs up and put them together differently that's not a bad idea.
/r/seduction19/12/13 12:48 AM
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Yeah, I honestly don't know what to tell you there. Your problems sound familiar. After divorce I tried casual sex and FWB and hit the same problem with both. Lots of people looking for connection whether purely physical or that more platonic sexual connection you have with a FWB you're never going to develop feelings for. Tried both out, neither did it for me. I wanted chemistry. I didn't want a relationship or anything, definitely didn't want someone in my daily life to have obligations to lik…
/r/seduction19/12/13 12:43 AM
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I've spent years considering that maybe I might be wrong. How do you think I eventually ended up learning what was right?
/r/seduction18/12/13 10:57 PM
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Reading them just fine. It's just, you're wrong. And arguing with your points is pointless when you can't see why you're wrong.
/r/seduction18/12/13 09:12 PM
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Hahahaha "A healthy relationship is where each party is doing each other a favor" beause if you're not doing that you're "serving" someone. I wish there were some way I could make you understand that people have basic emotional needs and that it's a perfectly healthy thing to have, and that relationships are based around the healthy and balanced fulfillment of need, but I doubt you're really capable of understanding concepts like that. You said supplicating. Supplicating is equal to begging. The…
/r/seduction18/12/13 09:01 PM
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Do you not see something wrong with being so arrogant that you pretend that you're doing people a favor by hanging out with them? You said he's supplicating. No, he's not, but that really tells us alot about your perspective. An offer to show a girl an area that he knows and she doesn't is not begging, pleading, or imploring "humbly and earnestly" and we both know that's exactly how you meant it with the "doing them a favor" followup. You're telling him he's getting the power game wrong. From yo…
/r/seduction18/12/13 06:44 PM
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Your head is getting in the way of your dick, and what you need is to get them working in tandem. Let's look at the girl's side. Girl I'm with I've been with since July. First two months, no orgasms during sex without a shitload of effort and concentration. She thought she was incapable. This is not uncommon. After a few months of regular sex, connection, and getting comfortable with being in a serious relationship with each other, she was relaxed enough in bed to really let herself go. Suddenly…
/r/seduction18/12/13 06:16 PM
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Pursuit is somewhat expected, so you do have to pursue. Especially when it's just text, it's easy for people to get busy and never message if you leave it up to them when you're not dealing with intense mutual attraction that starts driving both of you insane from moment one. She said next time she'll definitely come. I'd tell her next time is going to be the weekend or something. Don't call her on a promise, just communicate from the assumption that what she said is true and figure out a next t…
/r/seduction18/12/13 05:26 PM
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Yeah, no. You don't have to be Kilmanjaro and force her to climb you to draw a reaction. There was nothing wrong with offering an activity that was of benefit to her, or telling her she's missing out.
/r/seduction18/12/13 05:16 PM
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Reading all your responses, you've got a good attitude. Showcase that. Someone said be honest with your desires, and that's good advice. Phrasing that you don't want the night to end yet is a good idea too. Finding a reason to bring her home is a good idea, and that's entirely situational/contextual. Sex works, obviously. A movie, a few drinks that aren't at bar prices, dinner, or just private conversation in a quiet environment can all work as well. Having some decent liquor, a massive movie co…
/r/seduction18/12/13 05:08 PM
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There really aren't pros and cons. It's just two ways to go about it, and which one you prefer is more about you than her. If she's not interested you can get or give a number and still get no response. If she is, you can go either way and get her to engage with you. But some guys prefer to put the ball in her court and if they never get a reply that's how it goes. Other guys prefer to have the number so they can send a message of their own and lead the initiation so they feel like they get off …
/r/seduction18/12/13 04:33 PM
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Hey, if your method works for you and you find success with it, I'm not telling you to change. Some people draw others in naturally, other people have to learn how to do it. I had to learn, and this is what I learned that works and works well. It attracts the kind of people I want to be around into my social circle, and it gets me into other social circles that I want to join. You know, my methods aren't for everyone just like I'm not for everyone. There are people I don't get along with, people…
/r/seduction14/12/13 01:08 AM
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One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air,…
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:58 AM
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Yeah, probably.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:54 AM
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Nope.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:53 AM
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It's not "friendzone" if you're not trying to get in her pants. You can have girls who are just friends. It's ok. People do that.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:53 AM
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Foursomes aren't for everyone.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:53 AM
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If it's regurgitated daily, why do there seem to be so many posts that lack these concepts. Sure, I present things better and more coherently when I'm sober. Doesn't change the fact that literally every time I come into this sub I see more than one person who needs to hear this advice. If it's not for you, congrats, you've mastered something somewhat basic. I said it was basic, right? I'm pretty sure I remember that.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:52 AM
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12 shots deep it happens.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:50 AM
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Dude having sex not happen the first night you have them over at your apartment is not a fucking brutal rejection. Story time. Girl I was dating, came over the first night straight to my place. Watched movies, flirted, started making out. She was into me, and I was into her, she was gorgeous and we laughed most of the night away. End of the night came and I did not want her to leave. Not at all. She did not want to have sex. She didn't do sex on the first date. I'm aces at communication so I dug…
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:44 PM
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Mix of the two for me. I like being open to new experiences. But at the same time, I will use my own preferences as a way of excluding women I'm genuinely not interested in. Basically, I'm not and have never been desperate, and I'd rather not get laid than compromise myself to get a girl I find really attractive. I require some mutual engagement. My nature is to lead, so I try to lead a girl in directions I want and if she doesn't respond then the date is a wash and I'm fine going home and enter…
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:29 PM
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Music. I have like thirty different playlists for different moods, varying from 5 to 100 songs that get me in whatever mood I'm in the mood to be in. Also, I don't try to completely eliminate nervousness. If you can't function while tense, you're going to end up fucking yourself in the long run when you run into a girl who you really, really like. No one can not be nervous around someone they really don't want to fuck things up with. If you can operate mostly normal in that situation it's better…
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:24 PM
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Depends on you and what you like to work, honestly. I like chasing. That's where I'm at home, that's where I have the most fun. I'm a bit of an aggressive person by nature and I like it when a girl responds well to the chase. I express interest because I want her to respond specifically to that, and if she doesn't that's when I lose interest myself. Obviously, I look for her engaging and pursuing a bit as well, but if there's no pursuit on my side it's flat out because I'm not interested and the…
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:22 PM
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Ehh, rather than "alpha" I just think you're too aloof, but I approach very differently than most guys do, especially on Seddit. Forget the past. She's up for coffee. I suggest you have plans which can take it past coffee. Movie, Dinner, putt putt, I don't know. Whatever you like that's available where you are. Make them plans you plan to do with or without her (have a life, basically) and invite her to join you. If she remarks anything about going alone I'd flat out hit her with "Yeah well I di…
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:18 PM
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I don't feel like finding the link (sorry) but I wrote a megapost a little bit ago that talked all about escalating conversation in a sexual way. Not to be immodest but it was a seriously good post and you can find it if you spend 2 minutes searching through my post history.
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:09 PM
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Desperation move: Google "The Carleton" and go do it in a club and laugh your ass off at the reactions. Basically troll the club with your horrible dancing. Hope to God you're not in a club where no one is old enough to have seen Fresh Prince.
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:06 PM
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1) Take dance lessons 2) Find a girl who can dance who you can be friends with and vow not to try to fuck her so you can ask favors like "teach me how to dance" 3) Go look like an idiot anyway and have fun doing it and at some point you will find a girl who qualifies for number 2.
/r/seduction13/12/13 03:05 PM
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Don't hide behind stupid PUA terms to pretend that you didn't get called out on a legitimate attitude problem. And yeah this is my third reply to you, because you're fucking hopeless without some good advice like the above.
/r/seduction13/12/13 01:59 PM
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Really? Get to act all bitchy and slutty? Go read my first reply to your post and see why you're fucking your shit up royally. Girls aren't bitchy and slutty. They're just horny and uninterested in you. Change that second part and you benefit from the first. Don't fucking dig on girls because they aren't into you. That's your fault, not theirs, dumbass.
/r/seduction13/12/13 01:58 PM
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Ha, cause you're focused on the wrong outcomes. You're selfish, basically. It's all in your post, short as it was. You're focused on your outcomes, you should be focused on theirs. Women aren't pieces of ass. They're people who you can have a hell of alot of fun with. And with the right mentality, they see you as someone they can have a hell of alot of fun with and they flock to you. I could explain how the girls I want flock to me, but I don't want to get off into "yeah my life is awesome what'…
/r/seduction13/12/13 01:57 PM
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Dude abundance mentality or whatever is specifically for avoiding internal traps with regards to people you do not know. The entire point is to avoid over-investment in someone you do not really know or have any real mutual attachment to. Genuinely not caring doesn't lead to better relationships. There is no line between neediness and faithfulness in a relationship. They are two entirely separate things, and having the self confidence to not be a needy person in a relationship has less than noth…
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:19 PM
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I think this is way oversimplifying things. Through this lens, every positive attribute possessed by anyone translates into power either over their own life or over others in some fashion and men and women are all equally attracted to power. And then, when you get into that analysis people are attracted to different types of power or place different priorities. Some people want power expressed externally while some people want power expressed internally. A man or woman who has power over themsel…
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:05 PM
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This post should have contained a fairly detailed dissertation of what you've tried recently and how people reacted to it. Learning to be humorous isn't easy, and it's impossible to advise someone on it when we have no idea what you try or how you try it. We don't know you dude, and a simple question or a four sentence paragraph isn't going to change that.
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:48 AM
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Instead of trying to find the perfect activity that fits you, look into the activities which are available around you and go try them. Even if you don't like them, it gets you out of the house and gives you a life which you can talk about with people. You could then actually use your fruitless search for a hobby as a conversation topic if you go in with "So I've done these twenty different things looking for something I love to do and none of it fits!" and tell a story about something that went …
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:45 AM
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That's worse than just using Bing as a search engine dude.
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:42 AM
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She pointed it out to you, so own it as a fuckup and assert that it won't happen again. You know, apologies can be a tool. Remember that whole inner aspect about not being down on yourself? That applies here. If you apologize without conveying shame about what happened, you can do it with an "Oops, yeah I can totally fix that next time, when are you free to give me the only chance I'll need to do it right?" attitude. See that "shot to prove myself" thing you said? WRONG! You do not need to prove…
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:34 AM
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Two points of focus will get you there. First, focus on things with personal meaning to her. Second, ask her what she thinks instead of asking for factual details about her life. Example, you start talking about work, and instead of quizzing her on what exactly she does and how her job works and other facts, you focus in on what she likes or doesn't like about her job, and bring the conversation onto the topic of how she feels about what she does. Rapport is built in simplest terms by getting he…
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:23 AM
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The girl I'm with now, I brought up Obamacare and birth control. She's liberal, as am I, so I went with Schaudenfraude at Republicans who are angry at the sexual revolution because younger generations are having all the crazy sex they wish they had had and they want to shut that shit down because they're jealous. I had been reading an article earlier that day about some rep who was speaking out on the topic who was going off into the moral degeneration of society and I got her speculating with m…
/r/seduction07/12/13 08:59 AM
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I feel sad for you, SadCarnival, that you do not get to talk about sex with women who you then have sex with.
/r/seduction07/12/13 08:23 AM
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Literally read through the subreddit. Sidebar and stuff. I know you're looking for guidance here, but you also need to put in the legwork and asking people for the most basic level resources so you can get laid once in a while is a sign that you're not nearly as aching for sex as you think you are. If you were, there would be alot more initiative here.
/r/seduction07/12/13 08:21 AM
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Rule of 3. This means 1.
/r/seduction07/12/13 08:17 AM
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It doesn't have to be national news, dude. I mean, you're looking for specific topic suggestions to use and that means you can't just look at the world around you and see the sex in it. People around you and what they're doing can be a conversation. Obamacare and free birth control can be a conversation. Your friends, her friends, something from work, something from school. I took a psychology class in Human Sexuality a few years ago and used that. I'm not trying to be mean, but if you can't com…
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:50 AM
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That's why I put up at the very top of the post that this is advanced interpersonal interaction. This is not really for guys with zero experience, but guys with zero experience can adapt some of it for their use if they're dealing with a girl who is going to stick around. If you're trying to find casual sex, no, starting a conversation about sex when you've never had any is not the best way to go about it.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:42 AM
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Honestly, if you're a virgin that means you've never had a serious adult relationship and you don't know enough about them to have any idea what you want at this point. How often do you decide you don't want something you've never really had? What exactly do you want? If you want to just get laid and know what it's like, this post isn't for you. You'd be better served figuring out how to open up a conversation, present yourself as someone fuckable, and keep trying until you end up in a conversat…
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:41 AM
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That depends entirely on the girl involved and what "incredibly inexperienced" means. Generally I think I'd focus more on fantasy and obviously less on experiences. Someone who hasn't been around can still have plenty to say on the subject of what they like or what turns them on. I might end up talking about myself a bit more with a girl like that than I would otherwise, talking to her about what turns me on and why and bouncing it off of her to see if she likes the ideas.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:28 AM
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Definitely a guy. If anyone doubts this, keep an eye on GoneWildCouples for future updates.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:23 AM
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The friendzone doesn't exist except in the heads of guys who are incapable of making women feel wanted who expect women to want them anyway. Also I'm bisexual so when a girl invites me on a manhunt it's because she wants to watch me fuck him in the ass ;-)
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:19 AM
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If you pound that nail on the head any more you're going to break the board it's set in.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:17 AM
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You're painting in broad strokes which entirely miss nuances in any given situation. The difference between you and me is that you ignore a woman's boundaries and I erase them.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:16 AM
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This is why this stuff is advanced. Truthfully, I can think of ten different possible responses and I have no idea if I would use any of them because I develop responses in the moment based on who I'm talking to and what we've talked about. I might try a line about how dismissing it as only a blowjob is an insult to Monica Lewinsky and for all we know she gives the best head in the world. I might make a threesome joke about Hilary joining in. I probably would pick some comment she'd made in the …
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:13 AM
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I honestly have no idea who Mark Manson is. I don't follow gurus or anything, I make it up as I go along.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:04 AM
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Ha, no, no, no, no, no (natural blonde)
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:46 PM
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Huh? Not specifically, no. The girl I'm with is turning that direction if the amount of time she's spent playing New Vegas and Red Dead Redemption in the last week are any clue, but the woman I was with for 8 years before her was not nerdy in the slightest, I don't count liking Big Bang and Mario Kart as nerdy without other corroborating evidence.
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:39 PM
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Yeah you are. That looks good on you or you look good in that are physical compliments. That looks good is a mental compliment. You are complimenting her taste instead of her appearance.
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:33 PM
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I don't know why you got a downvote, because this is not wrong at all. In the right situation, you can go for broke and succeed without dancing around the subject, and especially in a more casual sex directed encounter when you're both clear on what you want, why the fuck not just start talking about sex? I did the long writeup because there are lots of guys who either aren't prepared to be so bold or simply don't have the confidence in themselves or the experience to be able to ask a question l…
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:04 PM
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This is what this is for more than anything. Escalating only physically has the potential to send mixed signals. Breaking the touch barrier while having a fun and stimulating conversation about sex sends a girl 100% clear messages about what's on your mind, and is a great way to move things forward in directions you both want to go when you're in a situation where sex is an attractive idea on both sides but she hasn't actively made a decision about whether she's going to go ahead and do it.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:53 PM
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Throw yourself out there once in a while. You'd be surprised how far a blunt proposal can get you. If you come off as nervous as hell when you ask a girl out you can still get a yes if she likes you and you're able to convey to her that you're damn sure you like her and want to go out with her. Being nervous and asking anyway takes courage. If she's interested back, she'll respect that.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:51 PM
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Don't lie. You back yourself into a corner when you lie. Everything else about turning the conversation back around is fine. Don't lie. One lie means that you have to be able to come up with others. Suddenly you've been talking for 20 minutes about sex you've never had. And unless you can keep that lie going forever, you eventually end up being that guy who lied about having sex.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:48 PM
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Short answer, but on point. The "if you're cool about it" is definitely the most important point.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:46 PM
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Everyone has their selection biases. For me, it's important. I like the mess that comes with sex, and I like women who feel the same way. If I get "I think X about normal every day vanilla sex is gross" perspectives from a girl, it's a huge turn off.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:46 PM
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If you are the one initiating the conversation about sex, use your best judgement. If you start a lopsided conversation with someone who has experience when you do not, you've hopefully got faith in yourself to carry that conversation as you are. If you're just having normal conversation and she brings up sex and you're a virgin, be honest, open, and positive. All three are important, but none more than that last. As with anything else when you're dating someone, you don't want to willingly broa…
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:42 PM
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Questions and options for exploration So here are some basic ideas about things to ask and how to ask them. Or, at least, things I do and get away with regularly. It works for me, it may work for you. As with everything when it comes to interactions involving romance or sex, take advice and make it your own. Don't copy, imitate and innovate. I'll also address a little bit of your side. Things to share and how to share them. This part applies mostly to the turning it personal part of the conversa…
/r/seduction06/12/13 07:48 AM
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Wear your attraction on your sleeve. I wish I could break down what I do and how I do it well enough for you to find some kind of a plan in it, but I can't. I'm all about reactions. First off, start incorporating touch into your natural behaviors. You want someone's attention? Touch their arm or shoulder. You tease someone? Poke them, slap them lightly, or tickle them. I can't give you a huge list of opportunities to look for, because I just hit upon them in the moment and take them, but if you …
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:46 AM
1

When someone tells you they're busy, ask them if they want to make plans. If they waffle, say ok and just leave them alone. Needing closure is you ending things to salve your own insecurity. If I like a girl and she's being ambivalent I'll just say something like "You seem busy alot lately. Call me when your time frees up and you want to make some plans." and then they don't hear from me again unless they decide to take some initiative to free up their time for me, and I go about my life. Someti…
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:22 AM
1

Projecting.
/r/seduction05/12/13 01:16 AM
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Yes because talking to someone with a paradigm they understand equates to subscribing to said paradigm. Any other fifth grade meme based pearls of wisdom there person-who-thinks-using-pain-in-his-name-makes-him-edgy?
/r/seduction04/12/13 05:03 AM
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I'm going to be honest, this post is an exhibit of why alot of people do not like seduction/PUA. I'm not trying to jump on you, just trying to help you understand a perspective from someone who has seen troubling things come out of PUA communities. I myself am not a PUA, in the terms that I was familiar with several years ago I'm a "natural" Now, in your terms right now I'm probably a 4 and the girl I'm with is an 8. How did that happen? I'm someone who was born with a native talent for empathy …
/r/seduction03/12/13 03:07 PM
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Kinda like personality flaws, physical flaws are just something where you have your priorities and you sacrifice some things to get other things you want more. That's how dating generally works. People evaluate you, decide what qualities you have and don't have that they want, and if you have things they really want they can let go of other things. Example, everyone knows the bubble tits. The natural large b to small c with nice nipples that just seem to defy gravity when a girl is standing. The…
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:48 PM
2

Did you get her talking about herself, or did you have a conversation where the sharing went back and forth? You said "our friends, our childhoods" and then "her issues" so I am curious as to where that conversation went. The lack of importance you ascribe to it though, yeah it's important. How to put this... The things you do do not exist in a vacuum. I read posts here and I see a ton of "what I did" but not alot of thought about the girl, what she's actually like, what her individual responses…
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:37 PM
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That's kind of a personal choice, and if you're up front about it who cares. I had my days of "If we want to have sex, we're going to have sex, and literally nothing else matters" and at the end of last year I ended up in divorce and casual sex was incredibly unappealing. I had alot of problems with my ex, the quality of sex was far and away not one of them, and you kinda have to know someone pretty well to get into the shit I'm into. Different strokes for different folks. Literally.
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:14 AM
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I have a personal policy that any woman who uses the word "selfie" in a non ironic context gets the boot with no further questions asked. But then, I stopped with casual sex a while ago and only date for relationships, and I'm in a relationship so I truly don't give a fuck right now. Fuck the world for actually putting that and twerk in the dictionary. I had the same policy when "blog" became a verb with the people who used it.
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:06 AM
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Now, some of that is just... I don't know. It's like winning the lottery, the chances that I would meet someone that compatible with me. Someone who has no flaws I'm not prepared to deal with without resentment or regret. And yeah, at this point I'm pretty much bragging because why the fuck not, I'm happier than I've ever been in a relationship. But there are a shitload of checkpoints on that list she could have missed and she would still be an amazing partner for me, someone who is capable of m…
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:00 AM
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You're already setting yourself up to fail. Now, let's be clear. There's nothing wrong with going out to find the girl of your dreams. That basically boils down to finding a girl who has no flaws you can't easily deal with who gives you everything you require plus a bunch of the optional stuff you'd like. Fighting through the pain, though... Fuck dude, you make it sound like dating is the trail of tears or something. This post is desperation.txt and I don't have an answer to your actual question…
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:00 AM
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Good lord you put too much emphasis on game and routine and figuring out the perfect way to do things. You have no idea what this girl is thinking and neither do we. That's where you fucked up. Your game got in the way of any form of real communication. She expected you to stop playing at some point and it seems like you did not. I bet she's got no fucking idea who you are and a decent idea that she has no idea. I mean, from bratty little sister to "slow down you're ruining your chances with me"…
/r/seduction30/11/13 09:32 AM
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If you have a problem with not being "popular" enough you're in high school chasing after stupid status obsessed children. Or you're part of an adult social circle with a maturity level equivalent to the average three stooges skit. Either way, the problem is your social circle sucks and you should expand into other circles asap. It is also possible that that's the nicest thing they could come up with and there are other problems with how you act.
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:56 AM
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1) Keep talking to women. Be nice. 2) Establish friendships with women, especially a woman who is willing to flat out tell you that you seem desperate. 3) Get advice from women on what you do and how you come off, and what they think you could do to fix it when you go talk to someone else. Also get fashion and appearance advice. There's always something you can improve if you want to. I've got like six different close friends (girls) who I can ask to go shopping with me because I know fuck all a…
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:52 AM
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Across. You can't read someone's body language when you're both facing the same direction, and they can't read yours either.
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:44 AM
3

Eye contact should never be constant unless you're in the midst of some intense conversation. Like, a conversation about the disgusting, amoral, societally unacceptable things you want to do to each other. Look around the room when talking, and return to her eyes periodically. You should do this with everyone not just girls. I mean, basically, you look at someone when you want to see a reaction. Punch line for a joke, the end of a story, a question or statement that's not quite rhetorical (like …
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:43 AM
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Tell your mutual friend you're interested in this girl. Don't go all nuts with it. Just let her know you like this other girl and that you'd appreciate it if she'd help you start a conversation. Also, consider asking her if she thinks your clothes and haircut are up to snuff. Women friends can be invaluable for that kind of advice if they like you and want to give you a leg up, and even if you look good in general there might be something you can do that makes this other girl think you look good…
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:39 AM
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I agree with Jeff, this sounds more like you actually being insecure and over-analyzing. If you're actually dealing with a problem where guys are somehow subtly trying to emasculate you, give us more details about the interactions. What was the situation, what did you do, how did they look at you, what was your reaction, why exactly do you think they were basically calling you out in a subtle way?
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:34 AM
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Actually, introverts and extroverts are often defined by the way energy flows in social situations, and where extroverts gain energy from interactions introverts expend energy on interactions. You sound more like a gregarious introvert than an extrovert. It's a common misconception that all introverts require little social interaction, and that they are by default socially awkward or have social anxiety, and the opposite assumptions are made about extroverts as well. Dealing with the unspoken so…
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:30 AM
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An absolute minimum of 4/5 first dates I've ever been on did not result in a second date for this exact reason. A girl being able to have an active conversation which keeps me interested is a prerequisite for sex or dating. I tend to provide an explanation, real or false depending on the girl and her attitude. Let the nice ones down easy, tell the assholes not to contact me again, ignore the petty passive aggressive ones entirely. If you have a smart phone there's this awesome little app called …
/r/seduction30/11/13 08:08 AM
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She knew him and he's got age on you. You didn't do anything wrong, there's nothing you can do when a girl realizes there's someone else in the room she'd rather go home with than you after she's flirted with you. There's probably a history there.
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:56 AM
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What do you notice, here? There are two possible answers to your question. 1) You are sabotaging yourself because you don't know how to value women as individuals and become interested in them on that level. 2) You are asking out women who don't meet your standards for personality and there's not actually a problem here unless the problem is that you suck at picking up on whether or not a girl is going to be a girl you like early on. Without knowing what you're noticing or downplaying, I can't t…
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:44 AM
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Depends on the girl and what she's told me about herself, I guess. I don't have a list, I just fish around for a friendly topic and then explore it. Find a tangent and jump to a new idea. Just listen to what a girl says, ask her about herself, and tangent in sexual directions.
/r/seduction26/11/13 06:31 PM
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Agree on the advice here being geared towards women in their 20s. Adults who can bring someone home with them or have a relationship on their terms if they like. Especially those not stuck in a high school social structure. Obviously anyone can have casual sex. Personally, I think that's like "advanced sexuality" and you shouldn't really step into that realm until you've been having sex for a couple of years at least. If you were an inexperienced adult, you'd at least have had a few more years o…
/r/seduction25/11/13 03:22 PM
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There's another thread in here, go read the "How do I bring up sex in conversation" thread. I have a reply in there that will probably help you out.
/r/seduction25/11/13 03:08 PM
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This is the answer to this question, the only good answer. I always, always bring sex up early. First date, or first conversation over half an hour. Anytime I know I can bring it up, finish that part of the conversation, and then move on to another topic and have fun with that too. Cardinal rule - Hold your judgements. Everyone judges, but if you want a girl to feel comfortable talking to you about things they might expect to be judged for, they have to know that either you don't judge them, or …
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:55 PM
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If guys are keeping an eye on you instead of sleeping with you, it's because you're not asserting your interest in sex in such a way that your signals are picked up by and understood by the people you want to end up in bed with. If you can get a guy into bed and it stays platonic, if nothing else, just flat out look him in the eye and tell him you came in the room with him because you were hoping for more than conversation. You can be as coy or as blunt as you want, depending on your confidence …
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:32 PM
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I don't even know how to begin explaining to you all of the things wrong with your post. You are incredibly self centered. To a degree that plants you on a very extreme end of the bell curve. Your advice is terrible because you don't get that most people do not work like you. Sure, everyone is to some degree self centered, but very rarely is someone as self centered as you, to the point that you are supposedly open and honest about it with others. It may be who you are, and you might even be hon…
/r/seduction25/11/13 01:03 AM
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You're not exiting the relationship or whatever. You're not walking out on a date never to talk to her again, or calling her and saying "It's not gonna work out" Instead you're sticking around and just leaving until it hurts her enough that she comes back and fixes something for you (which doesn't actually work, by the way). And you also, again, do not see women as people. Your word choice really lets me know where your head is. You want women to behave. You care about the actions, not about the…
/r/seduction25/11/13 12:13 AM
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Uhh, if you read my response to the OP you'd know my answer to this. You don't tolerate abusive shit from a woman any more than you offer it to them. If you can't respect each other more than that, get the fuck out of the relationship. There actually are a large number of women out there who fall into whatever person who likes women's standards of attractiveness who are decent people. And there are alot of shitty ones too, just like how there are a large number of decent and shitty guys out ther…
/r/seduction25/11/13 12:05 AM
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If you can punish someone in a relationship, that's an unhealthy relationship. If you do, you're someone who feels like they have the right to hurt others to enforce your worldview upon them. Do you know anything about authoritarianism?
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:51 PM
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You search for a way to hurt someone and then use it against them to stop them from doing things that you do not like. It is manipulative, controlling, and because of the emotional harm aspect it's also abusive. Leaving because you need space and distance to deal with your own inner emotional turmoil is one thing. If nothing else, sometimes walking out and saying you need space is better than letting yourself be an asshole because it's going to feel good. Leaving with the specific intent to with…
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:50 PM
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Good fucking God dude, women are not pets whose bad behavior you "correct" The problem here isn't that you didn't chastise your live-in girlfriend enough. The problem here is that you moved in with some random chick who you quite obviously did not know a damn thing about and were surprised when this person turned out to be a leech. It's not that your actions lowered your value to her. It sounds alot more like your lack of perception raised your value to her, she was a manipulator and a leech and…
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:46 PM
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You know literally nothing about relationships. What you just described is dictionary example quality emotional abuse.
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:03 PM
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Nice is perfectly accurate. No one makes it their goal to be nice. In the above example, no one says "I want to be nice" when they mean "I want to be a buddhist monk" or "I want to help those in poverty" If a guy is a social worker because he can handle the stress of that job and loves feeling like he makes a difference is telling anyone about himself, he's not going to say "I'm nice" he's going to say "I'm a social worker and I find the work rewarding because ______" The same goes for literally…
/r/seduction21/11/13 06:07 PM
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