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The reason is because the entire concept of "patriarchy" is just a motte and bailey for feminists to denigrate men. The motte is that the patriarchy is a society in which most power belongs to men; meanwhile, the bailey is that patriarchy is a society in which all men are favored and have much easier lives than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 01:29 PM
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This is part of why the right is constantly losing. The right wing has principles, while the left doesn't and will never be opposed to any mob justice in their favor.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:56 PM
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Would you say the same about your son denying an SA accusation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:21 AM

45% of young men have never approached a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:29 AM
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I have been at raves as a nerdy unattractive guy and I've been approached by women within 5 minutes 100% bs, you're definitely not "nerdy and unattractive then". An actual nerdy, unattractive guy would be laughed out the room by these "druggies" for even daring to breathe the same air as them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:44 PM
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It could be a pregame kickback to a concert, sporting event, or some other sort of big event at a friend’s house (aka a party). Most struggling guys are not getting invited to these type of things in the first place. You need to pass a certain threshold of popularity and status to get invited to parties/social events.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:42 PM
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I already explained that such a guy would get rebuffed by girls even for low-stakes conversation. What exactly do you think is motivating a girl to talk to a random ugly loser that came up to her? Especially at a bar, where she'll more likely than not assume the guy is trying to hit on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:26 PM
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It's mainly a combination of observations from both real life and online. You don't really see the shy, introverted, socially maladjusted girls going for their male equivalent, they generally want to go for confident, socially well-adjusted men who can "fix them" and boost their social status. For a more concrete example, having no friends is a near universal dealbreaker in women's eyes, but for men, it's not always a dealbreaker and in fact sometimes desirable (in the eyes of male losers).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:35 PM
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I never approached anyone who i actually thought was good looking or socially high up because I assumed it would be an automatic no since even loser dudes hated me if only most loser women were this self-aware
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:30 PM
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That doesn't make sense because this has zero impact on female losers' willingness to date male losers- it only impacts the rate of them actually doing so. My question is why are female losers unwilling to date a male loser and only want normie+ men, even when they have the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:27 PM
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Do you think female losers are common, or are they extremely rare (compared to male losers)? As a guy, how can I go about finding a female loser before she gets her heart broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:26 PM
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But would I date a guy who's a "loser" in the sense of just being mediocre and far from model-looking and rich? What about a guy who's a loser in the sense of struggling to connect with orders or form a solid friend group? Obviously I'm not talking about someone who's completely socially off putting- just a normal guy who can make acquaintances and function in social situations just fine, but struggles to connect with others and doesn't have the "x-factor" or "magnetism" needed to be a social no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:23 PM
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Yeah bruh idk wtf these people are on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:20 PM
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It's an absolutely ridiculous point and I've explained in my other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:20 PM
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Dude. Mia Khalifa doesn't care if you want her, just like how Taylor Swift doesn't care if you want her. You are not anything close to her league. She is not wife or LTR material for a healthy , sane , msn with self respect and self esteem. Yeah dude, keep telling yourself that. Fact is, there are thousands of men who are more attractive than you, more confident than you, richer than you, more successful than you in every aspect of life, and literally mog you to total oblivion, who are lining up…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:17 PM
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There are many women who are like I was. You just don't see them. Well, if they exist, it seems to be in much smaller numbers than men. In high school, I remember being on the lookout for any girls who seemed lonely/isolated and didn't have any friends (NOT in order to approach her or hit on her, to be clear, it was just out of personal curiosity), and I couldn't find any. The few shy/quiet/introverted girls I did see still had quite a few friends, and would always look completely unapproachable…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:09 PM
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Yeah, the comment you're replying to is absolutely insanity, I have zero idea why so many people are agreeing with it. The societal idea of a female loser is basically the exact same as that of a male loser- single, undesirable, socially/romantically/professional unsuccessful. Age really has nothing to do with this either, because men tend to want women within their age range. The idea that somehow shy, asocial, NEET women with mental illnesses are the ones who are ACTUALLY desirable winners whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:06 PM
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No this is really stupid. Mia Khalifa does not struggle at all with getting LTRs. The nastiest pornstar you can think of who has a 100000+ body count can get multimillionaire celebrity husbands with the flick of a finger. You think Mia Khalifa is struggling? LOL. She can easily marry a man who's 1000x higher value than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:02 PM
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It's a terrible point and that's not how it works at all. Literally just think to yourself what you're saying here. The popular mean girls are the "actual losers" and not desired by men, while the girls they bullied all day are the ones who are highly desired? LOL WTF. In real life, single moms are very desirable, and in fact having kids or not barely affects a woman's desirability at all. Like it or not, in real life, normie men want fun, extroverted women, it's only incels on the internet have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:57 PM
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Wtf? This is the most absurd thing I've seen written in a long time on here, and that's saying something lol. The popular mean girls are the "actual losers", while the girls they bullied all day are the ones who are highly desired? LOL WTF I have no idea where you got the idiotic idea that men highly desire young, virgin, low self esteem shut-ins... but this is just not even close to true at all. Yeah, a tiny minority of Redpill/tradcon men online want this, and male losers want this, but Chads,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:50 PM
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With all that said, I deeply love him and would simply die without him. He's like a part of me. hard to explain. My soul mate if such a thing existed. If he disappeared, there would forever be a void, and it's my biggest fear. I genuinely fear losing him more than I do our child. People might berate me for that, but it's just how I feel. I'm also incredibly codependent and needy. So that probably plays into it. Wow, I wish so bad that I could have a partner who thinks this about me. This sounds …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:38 PM
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Good question. I guess we'll see in the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:05 AM
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It is absolutely normal to be a pathological ghoster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:56 AM
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No, I don't believe this trend exists. What you seem to be doing is extrapolating the tiny contingent of Redpill/tradcon men from the internet onto the general population. I see no reason why men would want kids more than women do, when logically it should be women who biologically desire kids more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:33 AM
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The injustice is that the crime is punished so differently based on the gender of the perpetrator. That's why it shows that Spain hates men.
/r/MensRights24/08/24 11:23 AM
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Fighting misandry as an academic is like fighting homophobia as a medieval Islamic priest. You're entering into a religion and going against its core beliefs.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 09:30 AM
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Stop simping for women
/r/MensRights18/08/24 06:25 AM
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Ehhhh kids can be a pretty legitimate reason to not have sex in some circumstances. If you have a baby you are not meant to have sex because it can cause pretty serious infections like sepsis until six weeks after birth. That's not what people mean and I'm sure you know it. We're talking about kids who are already in school, or even teenagers, and the woman still using "taking care of the kids" as an excuse to refuse sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:17 PM
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In scenario 2, you would never have had a husband in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:23 AM
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I think most of these questions are odd. Do these guys not go out? Talk to hot girls? I don’t get it. Of course not. Most guys who are genetically and socially privileged enough to "talk to hot girls" have no need to be on this subreddit. But me not getting half of it is part of the problem too. The whole guy/girl thing is so straightforward in my mind. It’s not like some crazy puzzle. Some people make it so complicated. Just like how as a white dude the whole race thing is so straightforward. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:48 PM
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Not asking for empathy, OP, but surely you know that all women aren’t desperate for male validation. Obviously. I'm the first one to say that general male attention is worthless to women. But this is asking about giving up male attention entirely, which includes giving up the possibility of ever dating or having a boyfriend/husband. That's the greatest tradeoff most women would be making when taking this dela.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:33 PM
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No attention means you'd never get with anyone in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:29 PM
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A lot of women in this thread are choosing 2
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:41 PM
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I spent 6 years trying to find just 1 man who shared a handful of life goals with me + wouldn't ghost after not getting sex after only 3-4 dates. I dated attractive men, ugly men, average men, the whole spectrum. Huh, that's very surprising to me. Did you date men who are religious or from more conservative cultures? I'd imagine a lot of these men would easily be willing to wait several months, if not till marriage. Personally I think I'd be willing to wait a few to several years for sex, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:15 PM
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Honestly though...if I wasn't able to have him, but still be able to hire an escort every week, I'd take being sexually/romantically dead to men. That's interesting. What would you say is special about your boyfriend that you couldn't realistically find if you were to "restart" life and try dating all over again?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:32 PM
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That's pretty surprising. When did you first meet your husband? Also, apologies if this is offensive to ask, but are you obese or facially deformed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:27 PM
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So I assume your answer is that you would make the trade?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:19 PM
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I'm not trying to make this question tricky, it's quite straightforward. I'm interesting in better understanding your reasoning though. Are you or have you ever been in a relationship? And what's the worst experience with unwanted male attention you've had?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:18 PM
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It's a pretty common experience among the bottom 10-20% of men. It's certainly not the majority of men who experience this, but a significant minority do. However, the point of this thread isn't really to compare the "male experience" vs "female experience".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:16 PM
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I asked this in a poll on an anonymous app for my college. No women said constantly or frequently; around 41% said sometimes, 26% said rarely, and 33% said never. So in real life, the majority of women didn't experience anything close to constant harassment growing up, and 1/3 shared my sister's experience of not receiving catcalling/harassment at all. This is completely contradictory to what Reddit would have you believe (i.e. 95+% of women experience constant or frequent harassment/catcalling …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:08 AM
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If that's what you took away from my comments you need to go back to grade school to learn reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:02 AM
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So it's been 10 hours and a decent number of people have responded to the survey, here are the results <image> So harassment is actually less universal than I originally thought. Nobody said constantly or frequently; around 41% said sometimes, 26% said rarely, and 33% said never. So in real life, the majority of women didn't experience anything close to constant harassment growing up, and 1/3 didn't experience it at all, completely contradictory to what Reddit would have you believe. (Btw, I nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:47 AM
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I'm talking about kids not teens. Women are the ones saying that they're constantly getting sexually harassed starting from 6 or 7 years old, which is what I find really shocking. I'm not shocked they're harassed when they're mid-teens and start doing stuff on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:41 PM
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If girls were being sexually harassed in school, I'd expect at least rumors to float around of certain guys being creepy, but I've never seen even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:40 PM
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Well, it's just difficult for me to tell whether something is REALLY universal, or if it's simply universal among the Redditor demographic. How do you suppose I distinguish? Inspired by the responses I did make a poll on sidechat for my college though. I'll eat my words if constant harassment really does turn out to be universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:38 PM
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Because what I'm trying to figure out is the disconnect between Reddit women's experiences and my observations, not "who to blame" or whatever. I know that there exist creepy and predatory men, there's no disconnect there. The disconnect is that 7 year old kids are being allowed alone in stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:13 PM
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You got it totally wrong. I'm asking because it's starting to seem that not being allowed outside is something experienced a lot more by second-gen Asian immigrants (like myself), which could explain why Reddit's responses are totally unaligned with my experiences and those of people around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:08 PM
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No, the comment explicitly said "or agreed with/supported it"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:59 PM
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Don’t you think that something pretty much all women claim is a shared personal experience maybeeee has some truth behind it? Or you think we’re all just making it up for laughs? It's something all women claim ON REDDIT. I never said anyone's making it up, I'm saying that women on Reddit aren't representative on real life. For example, on Reddit just about everyone is a woke liberal and hates Trump, but in real life there are lots of conservatives and as many Trump lovers as Trump haters. Seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:42 PM
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It doesn't mean it's fake but it does mean it's likely not a universal experience. And that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:36 PM
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who is admittedly never outside without her parents and therefore is rarely in a position where catcalling & street harassment commonly occurs Yes, and the point is that in real life, this is how I see most people grow up. It's some weird Reddit thing where everyone grew up running off and frolicking outside all day when they were little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm starting to think this might be a Reddit thing, kind of like how everyone on Reddit is a woke feminist but in real life it isn't so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:46 PM
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I'm not close with any of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:44 PM
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How old are you, and are your parents or grandparents immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:38 PM
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How old are you, and are your parents or grandparents immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:37 PM
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I'm gathering that it's in large part a generation difference. Everyone talking about how "outdoors" they were seems to be well over 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:34 PM
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Yes? I've never taken public transport once where I lived (unless you count the school bus). That's pretty normal for suburbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:30 PM
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You left university with ZERO work experience? That is madness. It is madness to reach 18 without having had a part time job. What? I'm in college right now, everyone gets work experience via summer internships. I'm talking about menial part-time jobs like retail or fast food... which it's absolutely not "madness" to go without. I went to boarding school and Oxbridge. I know my experience of privilege is not the norm. You need to realise this It's "privileged" nowadays to not have a part-time jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:29 PM
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Hmm yeah, maybe this is why. When we were growing up, we were more likely to be left alone, be latchkey kids, be expected to spend the majority of our childhood outside in nature or wandering the neighborhood/town with friends. Like, this just sounds totally foreign to my experience, and it doesn't sound like the experience of anyone I know. Maybe it's also the fact that most people I know are second-gen Asian immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:23 PM
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Like I said in the post, my sister also said she never experienced any kind of catcalling or harassment. Maybe you just didn't think it counted or agreed with/supported it? WTF? You're accusing me of SUPPORTING catcalling/harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:17 PM
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Why would Eastern Europe be relevant here? Obviously I'm only talking about in the West, especially the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:15 PM
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Like I mentioned to everyone else who didn't bother to read the post: I actually asked my 15-year old sister about this once (who's objectively above average in looks and much more social than I am), and even she said that she's never once been catcalled or sexually harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:12 PM
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You have lived a very atypical, sheltered life. No, this is pretty typical among the people I know. Are you saying you didn’t work in high school or college, either? Yes, and neither did most people I know. At my college pretty much the only jobs that people work are major-related internships, TA/RAing, campus jobs (e.g. working a front desk), or tutoring/consulting services for high school students. Nobody works retail, fast food, or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:09 PM
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You'd get notebooks across the butt from colleagues in middle school. Well, if things like this was common then I would've seen or heard about it, regardless of whether I'm "sheltered". But like I said, I've never seen or heard of anything like this at my middle school, except among the ghetto kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:06 PM
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It's a universal experience for women on Reddit. Reddit would also have you think that everyone is a liberal, pro-choice, pro-LGBT Trump hater, but clearly it's not in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:04 PM
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Well, if all of this is disgustingly common, all I can say is it's interesting that my sister said she never experienced any harassment. It’s middle aged customers at your first job when you’re 14 making really uncomfortable sexual comments and asking you out and making clumsy attempts to touch you. This is the only one I can really see commonly happening, especially if you're working at Walmart or something. But people usually don't get jobs as teens, and when they do it's usually later in high…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:59 PM
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I went out to play in my backyard, not on the streets. Sometimes I'd go to a playground but it was always supervised by my parents or someone else's parents. I did play sports but it was entirely within actual lessons/practices, or with my family in my backyard. I don't know what you mean by "walled anywhere". Again, from what I can tell, this is a pretty typical experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:55 PM
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Well, my community is a pretty normal middle-class community, I see no reason why it isn't representative of most suburbs (besides having a large immigrant population).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:52 PM
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But again, this is what I'm not getting- why would your parents leave a girl alone in a thrift shop at 7 years old? That doesn't sound normal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:50 PM
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I haven't really seen women say they constantly got catcalled I do, women are saying it on this very thread (and everywhere else). I would perfectly believe it if they said it were just a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:48 PM
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Sounds like your childhood was not the norm. From talking to some family friends, this is how a lot of kids in my community were raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:46 PM
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There's no "preconceived notions" here, this simply the only logical way things could play out. Also, if you cared to read the post at all, I mentioned that my sister, who essentially had my gender-reversed upbringing, said that she never experienced catcalling/harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:40 PM
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What most women do get is covert leering, making off color remarks about your body, attempting to get you alone, etc. and I don’t know a single women who has hadn’t at least one instance of this starting young af. Men don’t see it is entirely the point. Because men behaving badly when they know they are doing something wrong don’t do it around other men• But this is the point. I was never unsupervised in a public setting when I was "young af". Like I mentioned in my post, my sister said she hadn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:39 PM
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It's like you didn't read the post at all. I explicitly detailed how in my hypothetical gender-flipped childhood, I couldn't possibly have frequently experienced sexual harassment, because there wasn't an opportunity to. In my childhood I was pretty much never alone in public, and if I were a girl it would've been the same for my teenage years. I also mentioned in the post that my sister (who basically had my gender-flipped childhood) said she has never experienced catcalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:33 PM

I think people really need to retire the notion that "graduated from college" = "educated".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:39 PM
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No, I'm describing low self esteem, i.e. low sense of self-worth, and low confidence, i.e. belief that they won't succeed in a domain. Also, I never said hierarchy is rigid. In fact, I explicitly said that those low on the hierarchy have the option of trying to improve, and if they succeed then they get to feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:31 PM
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the title is different from the body so its unclear what op ,means The body elaborates on the title. I cant take the delusional woman hate I gave you two extremely prominent examples, the healthy at every size movement and girlboss "you go girl" feminism. How many men do you see in the "fat positivity" movement? That's not to say this doesn't happen among men, I see a lot of delusional Redpillers thinking they're a "High value man" who deserves hot young girls just for making a measly 200K at ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:29 PM
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Yes, there's a chance of that happening, even if you chose well. There's also a chance of a meteor crashing on earth and killing you on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:18 PM
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Yes, I agree with that, but I think most people these days need to humble themselves more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:17 PM

It's "tolerate"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:56 PM
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If it's objectively correct, it doesn't matter whether it indicates "insecurity" or "low self-esteem".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:21 PM
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Zero
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:48 AM

Woman struggles with reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:07 AM
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Well, as I defined it, comphet covers much more than simply the pressure to be heterosexual. And like I explained, I'm not "blaming" feminism for men experiencing it; it's always existed, but feminism eliminated traditional social expectations among women while putting even greater pressure on men to fulfill them. Feminism is the explanation for why compulsive heterosexuality primarily affects men these days; I'm not "blaming" it, because I'm not assigning negative moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:04 AM

no argument I see
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:54 AM

I think so, and I think this is easier for most man than people think, because what many miss is that the current cultural idea of straight male sexuality is not only highly exaggerated but also socially conditioned to a large extent. I am quite certain that men's extreme desperation for women is primarily due to social pressure, rather than nature or biology. In fact, I recently discovered a term called "comphet", standing for "compulsory heterosexuality", which is the idea that many women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:49 AM
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The alternative is simply staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:56 AM
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Water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:56 AM
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Especially if in US, we can use some standardization of morals and ethics, instead of everyone just believing whatever the fuck. Say that to yourself again, slowly this time, and with a straight face. You are seriously advocating for kids to be force-fed a uniform, state-sponsored morality? There already exist basic moral principles that are pretty much universal. But anything beyond that and you're essentially advocating for ideological indoctrination (which to be fair already exists to an exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:04 AM
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Jumping to the government mandated gf accusations, very typical. For one last time, no one is asking for that or for women to date men they don't want to date. At the very most, people are asking for broader, social/cultural change in which female entitlement is less glorified/celebrated and men struggling to get women demonized less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:05 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/women/comments/1c4n2s1/for_straight_women_do_you_find_women_to_be_way/ https://np.reddit.com/r/QOVESStudio/comments/tfsc6l/who_else_think_that_females_are_more_attractive/ https://np.reddit.com/r/DoesAnybodyElse/comments/p3xqes/dae_think_women_are_generally_more_attractive/ https://np.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17v20ry/why_is_there_seemingly_more_attractive_women_than/ Nope, it's everywhere on the internet. I can find countless more example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:11 AM
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Unpopular opinion, but no. I'm generally on the side of MRAs, but I think that male circumcision is a very small issue compared to the other problems men face and is more of a red herring than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:59 AM
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I really like myself I'm not gonna lie, no offense but that sounds like such a disgusting, narcissistic thing to say. Just the thought of it makes me retch. I'm a firm believer that there is not one person on earth who should actively like themself (or even worse, "love" themselves); at most you should be neutral and content with yourself, but even then, only a tiny portion of the population has accomplished enough to deserve that. Most people ought to be discontent with themselves if not active…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:57 AM
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Because internalized misandry is extremely common among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:53 AM
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And 100% of them are wrong. It's a well-known fact that men put far more effort into self-improvement and being presentable than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:41 AM
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On the other hand a straight women saying women in general are prettier than men is just stating a fact, not "being gay". Damn, I'm really curious about the process behind attaining this level of internalized misandry. How much do you have to hate yourself to say with a straight face that your entire gender is inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:33 AM
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Except it's not true. If you know anything about history, it's only in very recent centuries that the female form was the sole idealization of beauty. In many older cultures (e.g. ancient Greece), men were considered the more beautiful gender, and there was more art depicting the male form than the female form. And in other mammal species, the trend is that the males are flashy and beautiful while females are bland and boring (e.g. peacocks, lions, deer). In humans it's no different- women are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:31 AM
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Just LOL at calling this "concise logic". It's the exact same "logic" a little kid uses when he crosses his arms and gloats "haha life's unfair, deal with it!!!" There is nothing "logical" about failing to recognize that fairness and justice are foundational principles in every culture, and we do our best to minimize the amount of unfairness there is. That’s how every free market in this world operates by. The one who serves (others wants) the best gets compensated the most. Easy. Free markets a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:24 AM
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Exactly, it's a free market, just like how the job market is free. Feel unwelcomed at your workplace because you're the only black person there? That's your problem, deal with it and self-improve. Don't get taken seriously because you're a woman and get passed up for promotions as a result? That's your problem, deal with it and self-improve. After all, it's a free market, and none of this violates the law, it's just culture and social norms. So all of this is completely acceptable and there's ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:07 AM
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Men also find male displays of sexuality to be disgusting unless they’re the one doing them, to be fair Men don't find female displays of sexuality to be disgusting, which is the equivalent in this context. Women ARE more empathetic and emotionally intelligent than men, it’s not an opinion thing. Obviously it’s easier to build friendships and have a better opinion of people who have the skills that make them easier to communicate and spend time with. Misandrist detected, opinion rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:53 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/women/comments/1c4n2s1/for_straight_women_do_you_find_women_to_be_way/ https://np.reddit.com/r/QOVESStudio/comments/tfsc6l/who_else_think_that_females_are_more_attractive/ https://np.reddit.com/r/DoesAnybodyElse/comments/p3xqes/dae_think_women_are_generally_more_attractive/ https://np.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/17v20ry/why_is_there_seemingly_more_attractive_women_than/ I can find countless more examples. But the overwhelming consensus is that both straight wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:45 AM
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Of course not. Given the facts I've laid out, why would I want to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:04 PM
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It's basic Redpill theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:25 PM

Well you're gonna have to provide some evidence that this is actually a common thing old men believe. Even social media posts are fine, just not some news article about a deranged individual killing his sugarbaby or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:11 PM
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Ageing men (50+) who have literally no USP/appeal other than money, and are trying to date attractive 18-35 group women, how can they not expect that she will mostly be after the $$$? Since when did these old men not expect it? Do you think they're stupid or something? I empathise that most men will be devastated to know that his wife/gf only looks upon him as a provider/walking ATM. Yes, because most men aren't 50 year old men with no appeal trying to attractive 20 year old women. Most men go f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:06 PM

Once in positions of power, individuals tend to balkanize and aggressively favor admitting their countrymen and for grad programs the admissions criteria are extremely subjective. Sure, I can see that happening, especially for Indian immigrants (this actually happens quite a bit in the tech industry). But that's why admissions should be subject to external scrutiny and accountability, and admissions being "subjective" or "holistic" isn't enough to properly justify a scenario like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:58 AM
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It's funny how it's "all men only want sex" but also "most men just want a relationship" depending on the narrative being spun. Has it occurred to you that it's different people saying these things? Personally I find the "all men only want sex" BS to be demeaning and misandrist. Men are generally much more romantic than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:51 AM

I've never heard of such a thing. But if the program does this because the international students were simply the most qualified, no problem at all. Why would anyone have a problem with that? Brain draining from other countries is a large reason why the US is as dominant as it is. I would be very suspicious that even the best domestic applicant didn't meet the bar though. I can't imagine that being the case for any reputable grad program (at least in my field).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:45 AM
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People go through lengths for partner, like relocating etc but would not for a friend. Then why do women give more grace to their female friends than male partners when they "open up" or show emotional vulnerability? A woman never ends a friendship because her friend cried about something she considered trivial. However, plenty of relationships have ended for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:38 AM
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I 1000% would throw every friend i have under the nearest bus for my husband without a seconds hesitation. Damn, it's rare to hear this come out of a woman's mouth. Careful about saying this in front of a feminist lest you be chastised for being a pickme. I'm happy your husband found a unicorn though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:34 AM
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Didn't realise we lived in a world where men vastly outnumbered women The amount of men genuinely interested in love/relationships is significantly greater than the amount of women who are. every woman could just take her pick of top tier men. Not necessarily top-tier men. But higher (than her) tier men, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:31 AM
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Exactly correct. Simply take a look on female-dominated subreddits or in general what women say about their male partners on social media. It's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:28 AM
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In real life, women make their boyfriends or husbands feel loved through gift giving, making his favorite meal, planning dates, buying lingerie to wear for him, etc. Lol, women giving gifts and planning dates? Haha extremely funny joke. do the same kind of emotional support that a man does Lol that's even funnier. It's a well known fact that women lose attraction at the slightest hint of emotional vulnerability expressed in the wrong way. You always have to hold frame in your relationship- this …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:27 AM

These programs are meant to solve a systemic problem at its roots. No they are not. Corporate DEI programs are meant to signal loyalty to the woke religion (and because many corporate leaders genuinely believe in the woke religion). Without drawing a line to where these programs end, it creates a paradox and a looping cycle. The unspoken line is the point at which revenge is achieved, i.e. when the current "privileged groups" have experienced just as much oppression as the "oppressed groups" hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:10 AM
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Yes. The more you think about, the more you realize that basically every single feminist idea is a projection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 08:54 AM
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The majority of people are heterosexuals, so they fall in love with the opposite gender. No, it means that they are sexually attracted the other gender. The entire basis of my post is that heterosexuality and heteromanticity are different things. You seem to be conflating sexual and romantic feelings/attraction throughout your comment, which are two different things. to add emotional intimacy, caring and being there for a person doesn’t mean you’re romantic towards them. Otherwise, we come to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:43 AM
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many women are not only spiritually more attracted to other women, they care more about women and women’s issues than they care for any man unless they have a son (and even then many feminists have a weird vitriolic hatred for their male children that ironically is more likely to turn them into misogynists) Yep, I was actually thinking of including this too. And "misogynistic" men in a long-term relationship are generally the old-school, conservative type, who still love and care for women. Wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:40 AM
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Here we have a prime example of internalized misandry.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 06:29 AM
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I feel the exact same way but gender-reversed. In real life, women have been generally decent enough. But the more I read what women say on the internet, the closer I come to becoming a full-on misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:19 AM
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Comments like yours are the problem. Trying to reason about abstract ideas using formal logic is completely valid, the issue with this post is simply that it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:25 PM
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Lol bruh, if you're going to try to use math or formal logic at least do it properly, instead of mixing formal notation with vague, imprecise definitions that no one can understand. And please actually use grammar and punctuation because this post is impossible to parse. But to start, there is no valid formal logic argument that "echo chambers lead to illogical conclusions", because assuming objective reality exists (without which this discussion is pointless), an "echo chamber ideology" axiomat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:12 PM
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I did some googling, and apparently I am not the first or only one who's made this connection. https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/wokeness-and-the-new-religious-establishment https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/social-justice-new-religion/671172/ https://np.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/wrox4h/how_social_justice_became_a_new_religion_helen/?rdt=59310 Glad to see it!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:58 AM
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No it's not necessary. The first paragraph is tangential to my main point and merely to provide context. The central claim I am making is that wokeism being a religion and western society being a wokeist theocracy perfectly explains the behavior of feminists and progressives. That wokeism is a religion is the premise, not the claim. If you want the justification for why wokeism is a religion: it's an encompassing, comprehensive set of beliefs that asserts moral self-righteousness and must be tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:46 AM
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It also makes sense, because internet content is overwhelmingly female supremacist, and ChatGPT was primarily trained on scraped content from the internet.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 10:02 AM
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I'm not even a Redpiller, but it's just stupid to compare it to feminism or wokeism. If you want an ACTUAL example of a "new-age religion" on "my side", the extreme Trumpists/MAGA supporters are pretty close to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:30 AM
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Who's "you"? I'm not a Redpiller. And you might want to take a look at the word "collectivist" in the dictionary, since you don't seem to understand what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:27 AM
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ETA: Things like 'cancelling' is new speak for the casting out of those that do not fit into the collective. It happens in the left, it happens in the right, it happens under every single religion and belief system there ever was, the pantheons before it and everything before that. We are social creatures. Uh, you're agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:58 AM
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Ok I'll just tell you the point since you didn't get it: "national socialist" is the full name for "Nazi", and it was the name of a party led by a guy called Adolf. When someone claims to be a Nazi, do you apply the literal definition? Similarly, the term "woke" has been claimed by the left, nobody on the right calls themselves woke even if that's what it technically means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:57 AM
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Religion is religion. By definition it requires belief in a higher power, commonly god/s. No it does not. Some people think that religion requires a belief in a higher power but it's not at all universally agreed upon. In fact, I can easily find you a dictionary definition that doesn't mention a higher power, from Merriam Webster: 3**:** a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith As for your claim about "woke"- stop being intentionally obtuse with the dictionary defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:47 AM
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Absolutely not. First and foremost, the Redpill doesn't assert moral righteousness. While RPers do assert moral superiority to the mainstream in certain ways, the overarching claim by TRP is that it's completely amoral, and it absolutely doesn't position itself as the only righteous ideology. In addition, Red pillers are nowhere near as fervent and fanatic as feminists are. There is also zero collectivist mentality among RP, not even among in the ingroup; it's all extremely hyper-individualist, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:09 AM
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Interesting points about hyper-individualism and consumerism, but I'm actually not sure how to what extend they hold. Economically, the left is clearly very collectivist and advocates for individual sacrifice for the greater good. The woke left is also generally collectivist about social issues (especially the idea that social justice is the responsibility of every individual), except for the ones faced by "privileged groups". See also things like the environment/climate change. Wokeism also adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:52 AM
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3, 1. I think the female imperative can be more accurately described as seeking social status and resources to the maximum extent possible, whether that's by locking down a high-value male or through other means. The male imperative is to have a genuinely loyal and loving woman who will have children with him, because biologically, loyalty ensures safety against paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:04 AM
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As a POC, I find the left to be even more racist than the right. There may be more vocal and open racism on the right, but I find that right-wingers usually leave it at that. Meanwhile, leftists will loudly and proudly claim that they don't have an ounce of racism in them, but if you press them in the right direction, it becomes apparent what they really think. Historically, the left wing has always had the grasp of coolness, but the right wing served as arbiter of what was normal and acceptable…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:40 AM
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I do agree that edgy language has become the domain of the right, but it isn't because of some grand conspiracy to "co-opt" language. Edgy, purposefully offensive language always belongs to the counterculture (for the precise reasons I described in my post- keeping out normies, and in-group signaling), and the right wing is the counterculture these days. What you're simply seeing is a shift in mainstream culture. You see a similar change in the left, from being edgy but (presumably?) open-minded…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:23 AM

Women on the internet pretty much are a hive mind. Maybe not all women, but internet women sure are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:22 PM

Well, which part of this is a double standard though? In the ideal feminist society, the vast majority of men would be second-class citizens as described in (2).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:18 PM

Women absolutely do rule America. The entire Democrat establishment is focused on pandering to women and putting women's interests above all. Same with the entertainment industry, corporations, academia, etc. Women don't rule the world because other non-western countries have the sense to reject feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:10 AM

Why do men need to support feminism? Why do men need to "decondition themselves" from "enforcing oppressive social expectations" onto women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:04 AM

The entirety of feminism is about playing the victim. How far do you think feminism would've gotten if men didn't get on board with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:02 AM
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Didn't ACT scores just reach an all-time low last year? In college admissions, the trend is that the average student isn't changing much, while the top is increasing in competitiveness at an absurd rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:59 AM

Women aren’t pushing men to marry. Women aren’t “popular culture, media, politics” Women aren’t “corporate America” Women don’t hate men. You are completely out of touch with reality. Feminism is run by women. Feminism dominates popular culture and media, and dominates corporate America. Feminism hates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:47 AM

In mainstream culture, there is significantly more pressure on men to partner up than women. Single women are empowered kweens who don't need no man, while single men are worthless losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:44 AM

It is hypocritical for women to promote singleness among themselves while judging men who are single. And it is everyone's responsibility not to be hypocrites, so thus it's women's responsibility to not judge men for being single (or via any other social expectation that they seek to dismantle for their own gender).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:42 AM

It's simple: women want men to be shackled to traditional gender roles and social expectations, while they themselves are liberated and can do whatever they want without judgement. Imagine billions of happy single men minding their own business, hanging with other men, keeping away from you. Imagine what a liberating, empowered world that would be for you women! To be free of men at last! Feminism does want women to be free of men, but not in this way. The society you are proposing is an egalita…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:38 AM
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You can definitely see it in how women make friends easier This is because of the women are wonderful effect, female ingroup bias, and inherent female value / male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:14 AM
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That's not what social skills are
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:10 AM
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There have been 12 cases of incel violence throughout all of recent history, in the entire world. The idea that "incel murderers" are any kind of real or reasonable threat is completely laughable; the entire hysteria about "incel violence" is a moral panic at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:51 AM
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Yep. I think it's much more pathetic on the "internet normies" though, because they are the ones asserting superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:47 AM
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Plus, it works both ways. It’s not that men here excuse any inflammatory content they see online created by/about women. They tend to take random shorts, comments or posts at a face value as long as it supports their worldview about horrible women and extrapolate it on the majority of women out there. Women are generally a lot more literal about it though. I certainly don't see any trolling, humor, or irony on misandrist online spaces (e.g. fourth-wave feminists), nor any women who explain how a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:45 AM
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Yeah, just look at what women on those forum say themselves. They overwhelmingly have more than enough male attention, they're just social climbers who want to leverage their beauty to gain status. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:39 AM
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Isn't it a good thing that men ignore her? I thought women didn't want male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:37 AM

This is a classic case of Schrodinger's feminist: a woman is simultaneously an oppressed victim and empowered kween until something happens, at which point she chooses which is more convenient for the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:32 AM
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What is there to debate here? Obviously there's a difference between falling in love with someone and falling in love with a romanticized ideal of them. The rest is just semantics. I will say though, there's also a distinction between falling in love with a romanticized ideal of person, versus romanticizing/idealizing a person as a result of falling in love with them. I think sometimes people get these two mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:23 AM

Are you being serious right now? We are talking about two completely different levels of obligation here. One is to make immense personal sacrifices for the child and continue to do so for your whole life; the other is to extend them grace and empathy and treat them like a human being, rather than a future monster or ticking time bomb. For the former there's a completely valid argument that you are under no obligation to do that for any child but your own. For the latter, you are under the moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:49 AM
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Congrats, nothing you've said is even remotely relevant to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:52 AM

Damn bruh. Sometimes I wish I was a white man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:43 AM
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So when someone replies to you with the NAvy Seals copypasta, do you fear for your life and call the police? (And no, there is just about no one who actually relates to that stupid copypasta. It's always posted either as a meme or for shock value.) Here's an article about inheritance. Wow, 32 and 28%, such a huge difference. You also missed the next sentence: One bright spot is that more women than men expect to receive inheritance in over 10 years’ time – meaning there is still time to plan and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:41 AM
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"The logic checks out"? How on earth does the logic check out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:34 AM

Are you just trolling or are you really this dumb? For your sake I hope it's the former. Now, to spell this out, we are talking about two completely different levels of obligation here. One is to make immense personal sacrifices for the child and continue to do so for your whole life, and the other is to treat the child like a human being rather than a future monster or ticking time bomb. For the former there's a completely valid argument that you are under no obligation to do that for any child…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:29 AM
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Starting with “it’s the cuckiest thing to raise a girl” Wow, imagine unironically falling for an ancient copypasta. I truly have no words. Leaving inheritance to boys and not girls also happens without any gender related group influence. I know several “my grandson gets the apartment! my 3 granddaughters get nothing” situation in my close social circle. This is simply not a thing at all in western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:17 AM
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You completely missed the point if you think this post is about how mothers treat their sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:16 AM
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Most women love their sons just as much as they do their daughters I never disagreed with this or said that women don't love their sons. But you're missing the point here, this isn't about how women treat their sons; it's about feminist ideology and rhetoric not extending a modicum of grace to innocent little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:13 AM

Lol, you think RP men are "low N virgins"? The RP that advocates for "spinning plates" and essentially getting your body count as high as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:33 AM
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And I see a lot of vague character education yeah, but I don't see them really getting into the nitty gritty with psychology, spirituality, discussing the meaning of life, morality, deep feelings talks, etc. This is for kids to figure out themselves, not be spoon-fed by schools. Having schools implement this is essentially telling them to mask off and become full-on liberal indoctrination programs. Since I presume you're a liberal, imagine if this was implemented in the curriculum of conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:30 AM
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Damn your school was based. Maybe you should've paid attention in class, then you would've been educated enough not to say Facts tend to have an anti-right wing bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:28 AM
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What a bizarre (and untrue, lol) insult. Let me guess, next you're going to say that I'm a virgin who doesn't get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:20 AM

I'm sure some women do it but it's not the primary reason. After all, why aren't men reluctant to date low-N/virgin women since the same applies to them? In reality, I think it's much simpler than that- inexperienced men are generally unattractive, and inexperience itself is also unattractive. Women want men that are wanted by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:14 AM
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Like I said, "reasonable" = clean/tidy enough to live comfortably in and not feel like a slob. Obviously this varies from person to person and there's no hard cutoff, but there's a range of reasonability that most people can agree on. By saying it’s different for every family, you are also disputing your own post 🤷🏻‍♀️ No, I'm saying that what you can't pin down a specific frequency of certain chores as reasonable or excessive, because this frequency will vary based on household size, what equip…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:07 AM
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Bruh, there's no point in giving out specific frequencies, it's different for every household. Growing up, my family of 5 took out the trash once a week, and it was rarely ever close to overflowing because we had several trash cans. The entirely point is about reasonable cleanliness for the sake of keeping your house comfortable vs excessive cleanliness for the sake of impressing others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:54 AM
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That isn't the case for any of the examples I gave, nor for any household labor that's primarily for status competition. Like I said, this specific type of household labor is self-serving, so there is no reason for men to complain when women stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:49 AM
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I'm also going to ask this question for you, do you struggle to read or are you just here to troll? The problem is not "having birthday parties", it's having excessively lavish birthday parties which are primarily to impress other parents instead of being fun for the kid. The problem is not "having the kids do activities", it's packing every minute of their schedule with activities to brag about how much they're doing. Guess you didn’t get any birthday parties? Trolling and dumb shaming tactics,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:41 AM
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The issue where you are allergic to any and all generalizations, and refuse to stay on topic because "man bad too!". There no point in having any discussion with you because you reject every generalization with "bUt NoT aLL oF tHeM".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:32 AM
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Please point out where in the post the husband is described to be an "unambitious slob". In all the examples, the husband is being normal/reasonable, while the wife has excessively high standards for the purpose of impressing her friends. The real world doesn't work that way. Women aren't always the tidy ones and men aren't necessarily socially clueless. And when people have kids, they *do* need to be more and better than they would on their own. Like I explained to another user, we aren't talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:26 AM
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Like I said, no one is complaining about a reasonable standard of cleanliness, meaning things are tidy and comfortable and you don't notice any messes, stains, etc. What I'm talking about is an unreasonable standard of cleanliness, as in having the house be shiny and spotless as if it were brand new, which no one needs if they weren't trying to impress guests..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:23 AM
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It's interesting that you've blamed household strife on the woman for being "neurotic" instead of the man for being a slob "Blame"? Women's higher standards of cleanliness ARE due to higher female neuroticism, whether you like it or not. I'm not sure why you're acting like this is some kind of insult; overly low neuroticism is just as unhealthy as overly high neuroticism. The man being a slob or the woman being OCD-level fastidious are both cases of the woman having higher neuroticism than the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:14 AM
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Wow, I didn't know that throwing lavish birthday parties for your 5 year old kid and packing every minute of their schedule was required to have an organized, tidy home. Thank you for enlightening me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:56 AM
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Uh, literally any basic task? Laundry every week or two Washing the dishes every day or two Mowing the lawn when it gets too long Taking out the trash each week Cleaning the house to a reasonable standard Grocery shopping when needed Taking the kid to school every day etc. These are all very easy and don't take much time. I'm not sure why you think this is some kind of gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:53 AM
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Do you struggle with reading comprehension or are you just here to troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:48 AM
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r/lostredditors
/r/MensRights21/07/24 05:10 AM
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Why do lesbians dress revealingly then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:03 AM
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But it seems like the popular opinion (held by men) is that women who dress in revealing clothes do it because they want sexual attention from men, want to show off their body (to men), want people to look at their body, etc Uh, no? This is overwhelmingly not the popular opinion. Men know that women dress primarily for themselves and other women, not for male attention. This has been hammered home for decades. However, what men DO take away from women who dress in revealing clothes is that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:51 AM
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Lol, this is really funny considering it's the left that's incessantly trying to lower educational standards and bring down high achievers in the name of "racism" and "equity". Remind me again, which side is eliminating magnet programs because they "aren't diverse enough"? Which side is trying to eliminate the SAT/ACT because it "favors rich kids"? Which side in Oregon decided to eliminate academic standards entirely because of "muh racism"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:33 AM
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Sadly, most women are liberal because ya all care to much about other people and their needs, i.e., the homeless, education, i.e., no child left behind while men largely don't care about social policies No, this is quite off the mark. Women are liberal because 1) modern liberalism is highly gynocentric and misandrist, which of course attracts women more than men; and 2) mainstream culture is liberal, and women are conformists to mainstream culture. If you want to see how much women really care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:50 AM
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Nope. The future is female, and men are obsolete. Telling yourself otherwise doesn't change facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:42 AM

I think 99% of the serious advice on this sub falls into the category of just being a functional adult in polite society. I didn't know that you had to be tall and attractive to be a functional adult in polite society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:34 AM
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Thinking critically; being willing to question the status quo, mainstream narrative, cultural zeitgeist, and social mores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:26 AM
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No. Anyone who gleans that from my comment should work on their reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:50 AM
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Lol, "gaslighting"? I never said those things didn't happen to you, I said you're likely misjudging the social value of the men who did them. If you disagree, please describe how specifically these men were low-value and what they were like, because chances are you're getting it wrong in the way I'm imagining. I'm discussing my personal experiences across 6 years of dating men of varying levels of physical attractiveness, social abilities, and general value. Facts don't care about feelings or op…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:44 AM
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ah, so you’re admitting that this is all driven by social constructs that only have meaning because you’ve collectively decided that they have meaning? Take a minute to think to yourself about how asinine this "argument" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:33 AM
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Looks like somebody doesn’t know the meanings of words like “measured”, “nuance” or “reasonable” Ironic coming from you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:27 AM

The ratio of average men trying to physically pressure me into doing sexual things (like pressing me against a wall, grabbing me hard enough to bruise, pulling my hair, forcing kisses, etc) is almost nothing compared to how many low men did those things. I have a really, really hard time believing this, even for a second. From my experience, the men on the bottom of the social totem pole are overwhelmingly quiet, shy, reserved, high-inhibition, and have very low self-esteem. They generally see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:24 PM
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Yes, this is obviously what's going on. But women are the ones who put forward "low self-esteem/mental issues" as the sole explanatory factor for this behavior, so this question was to ask them how they rationalize this glaring inconsistency in their hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:14 PM
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He probably means the hotties with low self-esteem because of trauma choosing unattractive men instead of their looksmatch. No, if I was talking about "hotties" I would've said so. I'm referring to women with low self-esteem in general, who are probably on average on the less attractive side. Whenever I ask them why the overweight men and women in the US can't date each other (the men are leading btw, and I really don't think the majority of fit women are going out of their way to date obese men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:07 PM
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Obviously it exists out of the billions of relationships in the world. I'm talking about the overwhelming trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:03 PM
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Nobody says that ugly men are inherently better than attractive men. However, most abuse is perpetrated by attractive men, because potentially abusive unattractive men don't get any opportunities to actually abuse anyone. Even then, on average, unattractive men make better partners than attractive men. This is because unattractive men have scarcity mentality and would be extremely appreciative, grateful, and loving towards anyone who would give them a chance. Meanwhile, attractive men have abund…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:59 PM
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"Woman good, man bad, and all evidence to the contrary is fake."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:10 AM
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The definition of a skill is "the ability to do something well". So in accordance with this definition, I have coined a new term called "standing reach skill", which is how well you can reach high things while standing flat on the ground. How would I go about learning/improving my standing reach skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:43 AM
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You are a woman. Women have socializing on easy mode so you really shouldn't be speaking for men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:29 AM
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Men don't have to be a social butterfly ( that's one option, man of little words with dry humor that makes the right comment at the right time is another option, for example ), but they should be socially calibrated so know the right things to say and do in the right situation to ( in the case of dating ) attract women. For many men, being socially calibrated means not showing any hint of his sexuality at all under all circumstances. It's more about being able to navigate complex social situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:15 AM
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Because it's not just "bitches on 2X", it's also bluepillers all over PPD (many of whom are on this thread). Just take a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:57 AM
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Lol, nobody ever claimed a "secret internet way" of talking. Stupid strawman once again. And if someone I was talking to you in real life struggled to understand trivial logic or basic concepts within a field after a long chain of conversation, then tried to act as a superior authority regarding what that field does, I'd absolutely call them out. Fortunately, I've never met anyone in real life that struggles with trivial logic to the extent you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:53 AM
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So, you have moved the goalposts from "theorizing about [gender] as if they were an academic topic" to "saying this one specific thing". And you're wrong on that too, a social scientist would ABSOLUTELY say this in substance. Something like, "A critical analysis of perceptual biases by gender provides evidence against the notion of 'female intuition'". It's hilarious that you're the one talking about "lack of self awareness" here, when you're the one who can't even understand basic logic or soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:45 AM
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It can actually be both - a person with basic "social calibration" who knows that saying crazy shit about how women are an evil cabal unified for the express purpose of oppressing men, so they pretend not to think that women are an evil cabal... to trick people into thinking they're not paranoid hysterics who think women are out to get them. Fortunately for you, nobody is saying this except for the strawman conjured up in the head of someone who struggles with reading comprehension. In that thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:32 AM
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Are men the ones telling women that their "desperation and bad personality" are the reason they can't get a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:26 AM
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There is a HUGE gap between not satisfying this insane caricature: "They're easily offended and easily discouraged and tend to think things aren't fair if they're expected to be social or friendly or fun to be around, because "CHAD doesn' have to be fun to be around!" and "being fun, friendly, and flirty". There's no point in continuing this discussion if you keep moving the goalposts. But even then, I'm apparently more generous than you and I afford them the good grace of assuming they're just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:21 AM
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Yah dude, don't you know, if you say something on PPD that also means you're saying it to everyone irl!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:15 AM
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I spent two entire paragraphs writing out detailed evidence. But I guess we can't talk about anything these days unless there's a double blinded peer reviewed study drawing the exact same conclusion huh? (Except for when women claim they can magically sense a man's internet posting history- no need for any evidence at all!)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:11 AM
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Stop dodging the point. The point is you have no idea how many people you've met who don't fit your insane caricature, yet you would deem as an "incel" if you saw their online activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:56 AM
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They're easily offended and easily discouraged and tend to think things aren't fair if they're expected to be social or friendly or fun to be around, because "CHAD doesn' have to be fun to be around!" So you know for a fact that every guy you met who doesn't fit this insane caricature has never criticized women on the internet? This is exactly the toupee fallacy I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:46 AM
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Women's intuition is just like men's intuition. Some people have good intuition and some people aren't so good at it. Some people are good at manipulating and some people are bad at it. This isn't "manipulation", it's basic social calibration to not say things that aren't acceptable in your current environment. I have been pretty good at judging people and is pretty confident in my intuition. But maybe one day I'll meet someone that's better at manipulating than I am at judging them. And pray te…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:41 AM
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I have never ever, met a dude complaining they cant get dates say "I wish I didnt lack confidence, I wish I was funnier and not so god damn boring at making conversation". Never. And thats simply a lack of awareness. What are you on? Online forums are FILLED with men talking about the "autism blackpill" and complaining about how their neurodivergence makes them unsociable and thus unable to date. Men don't complain about their confidence though, because by far and large it's not their confidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:34 AM
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If I heard you telling any of these to someone in real life, I would immediately peg you as someone who’s at the very least, slightly misogynistic And why do you think any remotely socially calibrated person would be saying these things to your face? It's like you missed the entire point of the post- part of basic social calibration is knowing what's acceptable to say in what environment. On Reddit, it's acceptable to say these things. In any real-life environment in which you would be present, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:18 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Women's "magical personality detectors" are literally a meme at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:03 AM
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Rebuttals to anticipated responses: "b-b-but catcallers and harassers!" If you weren't able to tell, none of these men are doing it with the intention of actually dating you. Their GOAL is to make you feel uncomfortable. "b-b-but the guy I went on a date with WAS entitled, misogynist and disrespectful!" Yep, because you're dating Chad. Social norms dictate that you're polite and decent to your equals, but they're much less restrictive of your treatment to your inferiors. The man you dated is com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:52 AM
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All preferences are valid in the sexual marketplace. But you should be prepared to accept the consequences if your preferences are hard for you to obtain based on the value you offer in the marketplace. The difference is that when women struggle to attain their preferences, mainstream society embraces their complaints and tells them the problem is that men aren't good enough; but when men struggle to attain their preferences, mainstream society ridicules their complaints and tells them the probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:18 AM
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What about black people's biology makes them more likely to commit crimes? Greater testosterone, which is also largely what makes men commit more crimes. Also, feminists claim that men commit more crimes also largely due to culture and socialization. If you believe that, then the exact same mechanism is at play for black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:00 AM
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It's not blue pill saying guys can only wait until some 35 year old is ready to settle for them. Bluepillers constantly say this. "Of course young women are shallow... just keep working on yourself, when you get older women will see beyond your looks!" Translation: shut up and be a good betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:41 AM
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In relationships between women and their male equivalent, the woman is easily and clearly the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:38 AM

I can tolerate anything but the outgroup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:50 PM

The reaction to Trump's assassination tells you everything you need about the modern left. In the big subreddits you see tons of liberals quite literally wishing death on Trump, and out of the ones that do have sympathy, their primary reasoning is that it hurts the left politically. Not that Trump is a human too who doesn't deserve to be shot; not that political violence is wrong no matter who it's aimed towards. Even worse, one of the popular talking points right now is the utterly absurd consp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:27 PM

You are completely out of your mind if you think this was a false flag. Look at the actual footage, the bullet literally grazed Trump's ear, and if his head was just slightly turned he would've been dead. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000009570525/trump-assassination-attempt.html It was interesting that no one in the crowd reacted as though they were under threat Are you kidding? You think the CROWD was in on the "false flag" too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:14 PM

But seriously seeing pharmacists as less than is weird to me because I think we need them as society to function We also need janitors and garbagemen to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:58 AM
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Have you ever been on a date or had a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:47 AM
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women with facial deformities (married) and 30 year old virgins (too picky- I have seen them turn down medical students who were way out of their league look wise) Must be nice have dating on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:45 AM
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Most women are not young, fit, and conventionally attractive That doesn't mean they aren't getting attention. Most men in general don’t notice most women. Obviously, nobody notices "most people". But pretty much all women will have some men notice her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:16 AM

I've seen makeup routines that take 1-2 hours just to go to the grocery store I have never, ever heard of a woman doing makeup just to go to the grocery store, let alone for 1-2 hours. Regardless, doing makeup isn't putting effort into their appearance; women don't look much better with makeup, and in fact heavy makeup is very off-putting to men. As women say, they do makeup for themselves and other women, not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:07 AM
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Yeah and most of them are chronically single LOL. Maybe they'll get used by a single mom every once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:07 AM

Have you been picked yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:27 AM

hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:26 AM
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The tech bro medium ugly dad bod but lives in a high rise and his parents bought him a SLS and he makes 200k+ he probably is pretty socially conservative, but you put up with it cause he takes you on fancy dates and buys you gifts and pays a bill or two. The guy you described isn't dating at all. He would be lucky to lose his virginity by 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:42 AM

I sometimes wonder how one makes it to such an age while being this unaware and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:39 AM
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As a result, even more men are being left behind. But the top men? It’s never been a better time to be alive than to be a conventionally attractive, tall, successful man. Nope. Sure, these days attractive, tall, successful men have an endless stream of attention from average and below-average women. But if they want to date an equally attractive and successful women, they will have it just as hard as the rest of men. What modern feminism and sex positivity benefits is women. Not men, and not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:07 AM
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Ffs, we just had roe v wade overturned. If women really had power that would have never happened. Are you being serious? Roe v Wade is not a gendered thing at all, the most vocal anti-abortion activists are conservative women. If you actually look at data, there is barely any gap between men and women in terms of pro-choice/pro-life percentages, but there is a HUGE gap between conservative and liberal. Roe v Wade has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with religion/ideology. So Roe v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:54 AM
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"Get off on" is an expression. You seriously claiming that you don't see feminists on Reddit gloating over male suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:49 AM
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I’d wager a decent amount of money that OP pines over the “good ole” days from the 50s and before, fantasizing about restricting women’s rights. Alright, give me my money then. Sounds like YOU are the one who desires female supremacy, so you project your feelings onto men and think they all want the return of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:05 PM
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Especially how we just lost Roe Vs. Wade I'm really tired of this being framed as "men taking away women's rights". To the Supreme Court's eyes this is about constitutional law, and to all its supporters it's about murdering babies. Nobody is trying to oppress women here, but feminists will still play the victim. and how there are still many internalized biases such as the women are wonderful effect, arguable the strongest and most universal human bias. (btw, regarding the job market, experiment…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:57 PM
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Congrats, you figured out that men are complicit in male oppression. I really don't think you have any understanding whatsoever of what privilege or oppression is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:50 PM
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How is it not revenge to cheer on the male suicide rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:48 PM
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Way to miss the point. Do you understand the difference between a gender and an ideology? Feminist scholars, policymakers, and academics whose work is heavily influential are absolutely representative of feminism. The comparison to Jeffery Dahmer is absolutely absurd. I really don't know how you're struggling to understand this. Saying that those listed people don't represent feminism is like saying Trump doesn't represent republicans and Biden doesn't represent democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:45 PM
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Here are some examples of female privilege/male oppression: Misandry is celebrated in the mainstream, misogyny is completely shunned. The women are wonderful effect, which leads to women being convicted at far lower rates for the equivalent crime, and in general far more leniency towards women. The massive empathy gap, one of the major drivers of men's suicide rate being far higher than women's. Massive amounts of resources to help women succeed in male dominated fields, zero to help men. Massiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:38 PM
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The only way you’re “oppressed” is you can’t just pick out a woman in a crowd like it’s Red Lobster and have sex or a relationship from her. Because you are required to get her consent. No, and you know how ridiculous this claim is. Here are some examples of female privilege/male oppression: Misandry is celebrated in the mainstream, misogyny is completely shunned. The women are wonderful effect, which leads to women being convicted at far lower rates for the equivalent crime, and in general far …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:37 PM
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Feminism is the only one of these groups that has any real social and cultural power. (Conservatism has a solid amount of economic and political power, but zero social or cultural power.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:25 PM
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A lot of these rants don’t even distinguish between “feminist” and “some lady on TilTok that said something mean about my demographic, which I am taking VERY personally.” I'm going to copy/paste this excellent response from (Karen Straughan) for everyone who tries to go "not all feminists": So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:20 PM
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As for your "not all feminists" claim, copy/pasting an excellent response from u/girlwriteswhat : So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists... they are not "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:17 PM
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The global gender gap is completely irrelevant. This is about western countries only, especially the US. You are just running on speculation, if you truly think that they just want revenge please provide some evidence why you think that this is the case. The evidence is feminists' own words and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:16 PM
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Has your arm gotten tired from jacking yourself off so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:51 AM
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I agree with you that much of this had the proliferation of the internet and dating apps as a root cause- I just don't think it was via the decrease of third spaces. I do think I agree with your second claim, actually, but women are judged by their partner much more harshly by the FSM than men are by their social circles. And women are far more status-obsessed than men as well, so they place much more weight on this judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:42 PM
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If anything, the weakening of social bonds is heavily overestimated as a factor. It seems like everywhere on the internet I'm seeing people blame "social isolation" and "lack of third spaces", when in reality that couldn't be farther from the truth. First, the entire premise of this is that modern dating sucks, and it sucks more for both genders than it did a few decades ago- which is definitively not the case. While men have a significantly harder time dating than before, women now have a signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:02 AM
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had many lovers lol, you just proved the redpillers right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:17 AM
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republican presidential nominee and may well win the election and serve a second term. Trump is absolutely vilified in the mainstream LOL, and so are conservatives in general. What on earth are you talking about? Trump's entire appeal is being anti-mainstream and anti-establishment. The only place you'll find support for him is in Fox News which nobody but boomer conservatives watches. But yeah, Trump is very based. I'm 100% going out and voting for him this November.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:22 PM
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Oh wow, I guess specifying "cis" (which including 99% of men) makes it okay and not misandry then! So if I say the same thing about cis women, it's not misogyny? Also dude, you're literally a TERF, so by your own admission, "trans women" are men and "trans men" are women, so "cis men" is the EXACT SAME as "all men". You're really just trolling at this point huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:29 PM
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But you only make a distinction that SOME men are white knights. You make no distinction that woman /= feminist Since (as you admit) the fact that the first claim being attributed to a man doesn't imply it's all men who agree with it, you should realize the second claim being attributed to women and white knights doesn't imply it's all of them who agree with it. Do you not have even the slightest ounce of inductive reasoning ability? This is you continuing to do so. Except it's not. "The person …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:22 PM
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Yeah bro, a subreddit with a 30K-upvoted post saying "trap, neuter, and release cis men" is totally centering males, and not misandrist at all! I'm sure I can speak for all men in saying that we LOVE hearing this kind of rhetoric. Could I ask what drugs you're on, because I would really like to try some. Btw, stay on topic, nobody cares about your personal definition of feminism. This is about misandry vs misogyny in the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:15 PM
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This is you using the word "woman". Not feminist. Yes, the person who says the first claim is a man, and the person who retorts is a woman or white knight. Which part of that is inaccurate? It seems like you are bizarrely interpreting that I mean ALL men make the first claim and ALL women/white knights make the second retort, which is not only a patently absurd interpretation but is also logically inconsistent, as the very mentioning of "white knights" implies that not all men agree with the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:07 PM
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This sub alone is absolutely chock full of misogynist posts. Nothing done about it. Point out someone is a misogynist and you're banned. LOL, this is literal peak irony, imagine missing the point so hard that you are literally proving it. Read the post again, and take a moment to think about why this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:57 PM
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Congrats on having the point completely fly over your head, you're literally doing the exact enlightened-centrist argument that I spent the whole post debunking. I'm not going to use the word "some"; this post is making generalizations, and all of these generalizations are correct in mainstream society. I'll give an example a white knight like you can comprehend- imagine if a feminist said "men are privileged", and some guy goes "no, you can't generalize, only SOME men are privileged, just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:51 PM
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There’s literally a subreddit titled women are things That's a literal fetish/kink subreddit. I took one look at the pinned post, and it has a full-on verification process that requires the written consent of every woman featured. Heck, I did a 10 second check and many if not most of the posts are by verified women themselves LOL. It really says something that this is the best example you have. the same website that bans literally any subreddit that supports actual feminism or female empowerment…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:38 PM
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why does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:00 AM
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Do you really not understand why an ideology focused on attracting women is gynocentric while an ideology focused on completely avoiding women isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:08 AM
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Most still seem to be heavily invested in gaining female validation through becoming more physically or financially attractive. Lol yeah, sounds like they are not actually blackpillers then. A core component of the blackpill is fatalism and genetic determinism; classic blackpill/incel ideology is against any kind of self-improvement" for the sake of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:50 AM
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Basically, it establishes that unattractive men are absolutely screwed in dating, and nothing can change that because it is their genetics that screws them. Thus, the only solutions are to: 1) give up on dating and focus on other things (which they refer to as "copes"), 2) LDAR (lay down and rot), or 3) "exit life". These options all decenter women, though really only (1) is useful. (Note to mods: this is not blackpill content, I am simply explaining what it is.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:38 AM
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It is the blackpill. Espousing it gets you banned from this subreddit, hence why I called it "the ideology that shall not be named".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:33 AM
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Yes, and no one claimed it does. Self-improvement isn't inherently gynocentric, but the type of "self-improvement" that RP advocates for is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:16 AM
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I think the comparison to companies/customers is actually pretty useful. Nobody claims that prescriptive TRP is just to please women, similar to how companies don't exist just to please customers. But even though the end goal of company is to make money, companies are definitely EXTREMELY customer-centric, and in the early stages center customers above all else; in fact, one of Amazon's core principles is "Customer Obsession", and you'll find similar at many other principles at other companies. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:09 AM
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It's not. If it were true, then why do lesbians (and in general, women who don't want male attention) wear makeup too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:02 AM
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I explicitly defined the bluepill in the beginning of the post as the mainstream cultural zeitgeist, aka woke ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:35 AM
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I wasn't alive in the early 2000s so I wouldn't know, but yes I do think MGTOW is great and wish it would be spread on social media to the same extent that Andrew Tate / Redpill gurus are. However, I think MGTOW has now mostly been replaced by another ideology that shall not be named, that decenters women to a greater extent than the Redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:32 AM
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Yes. However, women wear makeup primarily for the social benefits, not to appeal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:24 AM
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"self-improvement" for the sake of attracting women is absolutely gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:49 AM
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Yes. There's a proper way to go about making a delusion calculator, but the existing ones seem to be made by someone with no common sense who failed out of stat 101. Maybe I'll make one myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:10 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:47 AM

And you can reply without tossing your toys out of the cot too. Aww did someone get his feelings hurt? That's too bad. You dudes really do just love to build scenarios in your head to get raging mad at, dontcha. This is at best projection and at worst schizophrenia. I'll be charitable towards you and assume the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:54 AM
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I think the secretary problem is the best mental concept you have, even if it has issues, like this one. I don't agree. Your way of "dealing with the issues" was by essentially removing the math and boiling the whole thing down to the heuristic of "balancing exploration vs exploitation", which is widely applicable and not at all unique to the secretary problem. I certainly agree with this heuristic, but it's not news. So in the problem youre optimizing the probability of finding the best one, by…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:49 AM
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No, I said observe the campus of "any decently ranked college" from the beginning. Nope, skinny fat is still within healthy weight but they are fat. That's not what most people define as fat. The only one moving the goalposts is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:34 AM

There is no "me" in this, the post is completely impersonal. If you can't think of something relevant to say, then stay quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:31 AM
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Which becomes lower after you include "decently ranked college", then lower again once you adjust for demographics within it. Not to mention, "not fat" doesn't mean "not technically overweight"- generally, the bar for someone to be seen as "fat" is higher than 25 BMI, and closer to the obese cutoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:29 AM
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Ever heard of hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:23 AM
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Yep, it's absolutely absurd. A fat single mother will loudly and proudly demand "6 feet, 6 figures, 6 inches, 6 pack, and 6/10 face, or NEXT", and be met with a chorus of "you go girl, slay kween". Yet when a fit, childless man wants a fit, childless woman, suddenly his standards are too high and he's being entitled and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:21 AM
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If "don't be fat" is the minimum, then a decent chunk of both men and women in the US are failing to meet that standard, no? Actually no. Like I said in the post, when you exclude low SES people and middle-aged/old people, the rates of overweightness/obesity drop significantly. Go to any decently ranked college in the US, the vast majority of the people on campus aren't fat. Average Joe is probably a bit on the chubby side himself Again, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:16 AM
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Nearly all men complaining online about how all they want is a "non-fat woman with no kids" are similar to Joe and nothing like Bob.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:06 AM
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Here's an idea: if you struggle to read and comprehend multiple paragraphs of text, then maybe you shouldn't be spending your time on a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:04 AM
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What a compelling argument! My mind is blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:54 AM
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I'm the last person who will spout the stupid "don't reduce human relationships into a formula" BS, but this is an instance in which the math doesn't translate to reality at all. Two things: The secretary problem makes a ton of important assumptions that are simply very far removed from the reality of dating. Probably two of the most important assumptions are that you always have a definitive ranking of the candidates you've seen before, and there's a fixed pool of candidates from which you're e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:42 AM
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Yeah dating sucks for men FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:28 AM
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Plenty of losers have great personalities and plenty of successful people have terrible ones. Unattractive losers can still provide love, intimacy, companionship, support, interesting conversations, etc. So the point is that unattractive loser men want to date unattractive loser women, and not vice-versa- thus proving your claim that women date for love and intimacy too to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:21 AM
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You just told someone else off for assuming the views of some men can be attributed to more than just a few outliers. So why exactly do you think it's okay to take the view of a few female outliers and use that as your basis for your whole theory? The difference is that for men, it's truly a few outliers; even on this subreddit, you have a lot of men disagreeing with those hardcore Redpillers. Meanwhile, over all of social media, pretty much all women are in full agreement that they're "strong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:27 AM
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But this is true of women too - ask a woman in real life and she'll say personality is key too. And in real life, women date men primarily for love, intimacy and companionship - especially in modern times where we aren't forced to be reliant on them financially. If this were true, then unattractive loser women would want to date their male equivalents. But in reality, unattractive loser men want to date unattractive loser women, and not vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:11 AM
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men here literally go on and on about how women's hobbies and achievements means nothing to them. they only care about the girls being hot and agreeable, which is okay you can have your preferences. Btw, not only are your statements false, the second statement also doesn't follow from the first. Do you not have any personality beyond your hobbies and achievements?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:08 AM
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This story is far from unique- everywhere you look, you can find women dating serial cheaters, broke-ass bums who contribute nothing to the household, and even straight-up abusers. Yeah this is just you buddy. I've never seen this ONCE in my life, the only time I hear this story is on the internet when some woman or male feminist wants to claim "the bar is on the ground for men". Pretty much in every case where this DOES happen, it's because the guy is extremely good-looking, very popular/high-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:59 AM
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In most relationships, the man treats the woman far better than the woman treats the man, which only supports my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:52 AM
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Tell that to the women who say they don't need a man because their female friends and random flings provide everything they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:19 AM
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The only men who say that are Redpill men, who are a tiny minority are not at all representative of mainstream society. Ask any man in real life, PERSONALITY is the first thing they'll say they care about. In real life, men absolutely do date women primarily for love, intimacy, and companionship. What is with women acting like what a couple Redpill dudes say are representative of the real world? I can't believe that I'm saying this, but you unironically need to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:13 AM
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men here literally go on and on about how women's hobbies and achievements means nothing to them. they only care about the girls being hot and agreeable, which is okay you can have your preferences. The only men who do that are Redpill men, who are a tiny minority are not at all representative of mainstream society. Ask any man in real life, PERSONALITY is the first thing they'll say they care about. What is with women acting like what a couple Redpill dudes say are representative of the real wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:10 AM
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The study that your false "statistic" and trash article are based on was debunked and retracted a long time ago. Pathetic that bluepillers and feminists keep citing this with no regard for facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:08 AM
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Dude did you read the post? The entire point is that women DON'T NEED a male partner because they have friends and flings. Women themselves say that their female friends provide them with emotional intimacy better than any man ever could, because they naturally get alone with women more than men. And similarly, the hot 6'4" hung chads on Tinder could provide women with better sex than their boyfriend (who would most likely be closer in looks to her) ever could. All of these are solely due to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:05 AM
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I agree that men are disposable utilities for society, but for women, "accessory" is still the correct word. The difference between a utility and an accessory is that a utility, despite being disposable, is something that's still needed and important for practical purposes. Meanwhile, women do not need men at all. Their purpose to women is the same as that of many accessories- purely decorative, to look good and impress others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:01 AM
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Do you apply the same logic for women who keep getting into abusive relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:09 AM
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You often see the statistics about men leaving their wives who get really sick much more than women leaving a man who gets really sick. The study where this false "statistic" came from was debunked and retracted a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:53 AM
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CLEARLY he doesn't actually know what it means then, Or CLEARLY, the woman you are replying to is making things up and spouting a load of crap. Once upon a time in the Discord I said that genetics are extremely important and very underrated, and another time I sympathized with the plight incels face, so being a PPD woman, of course she took it to mean that I must be a "blackpilled incel" myself. As you pointed out, my post here is completely antithetical to classical incel ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:32 AM
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No it's not, and never was. I have explicitly since day 1 that I don't identify at all with the incel community.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:31 AM
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Being a "socially well-adjusted normie" means you have a solid friend group, are decently popular, and don't have trouble with women. All you need to be minimally competent in a social setting is the ability a conversation normally, which is a significantly lower bar than than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:19 PM
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Your second sentence is a significantly lower bar than being a "socially well-adjusted normie". Also, the point is that men have a much lower social bar for women than women do for men, even accounting for men's lower selectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:13 PM
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Because we see men as humans, we want them to have goals, to be inspired, to do something with their lives. This is thoroughly, completely different from being popular and socially successful. It's a small correlation at best if there even is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:02 PM
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The introverted women that I’ve dated did not care that I was not particularly social, and they did not particularly want me to be. Well that is the trend I've noticed. I think you also should consider that there are many more asocial men than asocial women. Another example I gave: Or for another example, look at the dynamic between foreveralone and foreveralonewomen. Men from the former want to date women from the latter, but women from the latter want to date socially well-adjusted normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:01 PM
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Very few people are popular because they are, well, popular. This applies to both genders. My point is asking about why women care about popularity and status in men so much more than men do in women, to the extent that it can't be just explained by greater female selectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:58 PM
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This applies to both genders. My point is asking about why women care about popularity and status in men so much more than men do in women, to the extent that it can't be just explained by greater female selectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:57 PM
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Guys generally don't want that though. Like I said: Or another example- you'll see that shy, nerdy, loser men desperately want to date a shy, nerdy, loser "girl next door" so they can relate; yet shy, nerdy, loser women want to date a popular, charismatic, extroverted guy who can boost her social status and "fix her". Men find the "us against the world" mentality exciting and romantic, while women often put their female friends before their male partner. In general, it really seems like a man mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:53 PM
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Plenty of people making 150K-200K still struggle, especially in VHCOL areas such as Bay Area and NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:48 AM
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What are you talking about? I'm the farthest thing from a Redpiller but its philosophy has always been "enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:44 AM
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I honestly thought, the community was going to evolve into "What to do next" It has already evolved into this a long term ago, via the formation of a new community that shall not be named.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:44 AM
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What is your opinion on feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:42 AM
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But that’s just because if Redpiller’s actually acknowledged Briffault’s Law as legitimate in nature, then they can no longer blame women or society for their lack of sexual success If you dropped your blue pill, male feminist bias and actually read what men say, you'll see that nobody is "blaming women" for their lack of sexual success. What men DO blame women for is their misandry, hypocrisy, double standards, and constant gaslighting. According to Briffault’s law, if a man is struggling with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:32 AM
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*Transactional from the women's end. Men, unfortunately, still love idealistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:25 AM

It's not me downvoting you. My post is getting downvoted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:19 AM
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I'll start: I'm a man, and my answers are: 1) 100 contacts 2) 6 people- my family and my roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 10:17 AM
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Lol exactly. This PUA nonsense needs to die out for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:46 AM
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I'm calling out her dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:40 PM
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No one is angry about anything. I'm simply calling out her dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:39 PM
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Just to get this out of the way: you think that murdering children is okay. See how ridiculous it is when you put words into people's mouths?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:38 PM
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Using two clicks to figure out a disingenuous commenter is an online prostitute is not witch hunting. I suggest you look up the term in a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:10 PM
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Only honest answer here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:05 PM
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Men and women both bodyshame people who are on the other side, the difference is that all women are on one side while men are on both. Pearl being body-shamed has nothing to do with being unfeminine and everything to do with being anti-feminist/pro-MRA. If she looked like a Victoria's Secret model, people would still find a way to insult her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:50 AM
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For example, a lot of men think, 'women... just have long hair''; but having nice long hair requires far greater upkeep and time than having short hair. No it doesn't. This is only the case if you actually try to do fancy hairstyles or curls or stuff like that. If you just have straight, shoulder length hair and you only ever have it down or in a pony tail, it's not much more work than short hair. If women stopped doing all the things they normally do as women (like doing hair, make up shaving b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:48 AM
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She technically is, but her comment implies those are the main factors in her physical attraction, and some men don't realize the hidden part is you need to get past her looks standards first. Her comment really should say: I like nerdy dudes with facial hair who are more on the muscular side, provided that they're at least 6'2" and look like a male model; so the things that make someone satisfying those requirements more attractive TO ME is if they’re smart, funny, nice cock, with shared intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:32 AM
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You forgot to mention your requirements for 8/10 face and 6'3" height
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:27 AM
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Lemme make this abundantly clear: most women do not like even the concept of men. They like the status boost and the validation that male attention provides, if he can provide it. Exactly, this is the big difference. Men date women for love, intimacy, and companionship; women date men for status, resources, and adventure. A female android will be able to provide the former qualities in full, while a male android won't be able to provide the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:05 AM
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Conservatives again show their gynocentrism by erupting over the idea of women being required to register for a draft like men +223 upvotes. The only one denying reality is you. And the first comment doesn't contradict anything, basically no one is denying that conservatism is gynocentric. The sentiment throughout the entire thread was that conservatives are indeed gynocentric, but men shouldn't forget that liberals/feminists are even more gynocentric and far greater enemies to them. That's full…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:34 AM
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If that's true, then why is their vitriol exclusively focused on liberal figures, especially women? It's not. This post and many others at the top of men's rights subreddits are bashing conservatives for opposing the inclusion of women in the draft. The reason their anger is mainly focused on liberal figures is because, like I said, liberal women control mainstream culture. They can't even protect abortion rights, but delusional dudes on this sub think they are in control. Are you aware of the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:16 AM
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Talk to girls more, be sexually assertive, lift 3 times a week, how can it be wrong? Exactly what I meant by PUA nonsense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:34 PM
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I'm against the red pill. The main tenants of descriptive Redpill are pretty accurate (e.g. 80/20, hypergamy, alpha fux beta bux, AWALT, etc), but prescriptive redpill is complete BS and basically just PUA nonsense + bluepill "self-improvement" + guru worship repackaged. Unfortunately it seems like most (or at least many) men who claim to be redpilled primarily define it via and defend it via its prescriptive side ("Redpill just tells men to self-improve"), so I'm against it. If instead Redpille…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:53 AM
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Even worse than women here is bluepilled men/male feminists, and also those weird "super duper alpha males" whiteknighting for women. They're far more aggressive than women and constantly derail discussions with personal insults. It's rare to see any of them ever argue in good faith (whereas some women do, at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:44 AM
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Have you ever considered the possibility that liberals/feminists AND conservatives are biased against men? That's what men's rights activists have been saying since forever. The reason why there is so much attention on liberals/feminists is because they are the ones in control of mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:08 AM
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Why aren't you a billionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:20 PM
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In fact, without good social skills, status and wealth are difficult to acquire, as humans are social animals and success in most employment and business requires... good social skills. Zuck says hi, and so do many other tech billionaires. Sure you do need good social skill to climb the corporate ladder at some boomer company full of nepotism, but there's plenty of ways to be successful besides that. The companies on the cutting edge of technology are generally pretty meritocratic. such as leade…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:13 PM
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If you skip dating as a whole, and you are now 27 and you made it, you will get crushed by woman. Golddiggers will use your ass like its nothing. You as a clown who is loaded DOESNT EVEN KNOW what real attraction is, the fake titts bimbo woman, will make you feel like she loves you, because you have no experience you will believe it. This will happen to you if you're a clown, yes. However, many men aren't clowns. You do realize that men could be focusing on career success for its own sake and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:10 PM
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You really need to stop with this "league" shit. That's part of what's holding you AND your social skills back. There is no perfect "lookmatch" and everyone more attractive is ABOVE you while everyone less attractive is BENEATH you. Stupid mentality, there are absolutely leagues. Why are bluepillers so allergic to accepting their place on the hierarchy (or even admitting there is one)? And no, a mentally ill psychopath not being able to date his looksmatch doesn't disprove the existence of leagu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:02 PM
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No, because I never got past the looks or status threshold in the first place. It's true that by having better social skills I could've been higher status, but then you can apply that logic to any trait useful for developing status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:57 AM
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That said, being the super confident fun guy who gets invited to parties will get you more dates just because more people will notice you. And becoming the super confident fun guy is about as realistic as becoming the super handsome tall white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:53 AM
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But outside of that, social skills are THE most important thing in all relationships. It becomes more obvious once you've had a few relationships, and start to realize what you actually DO in relationships. It's technically social skills but it's a very different thing from the usual definition of social skills- which is how well you can impress new people and make new connections, especially in a group setting. This form of social skills has overlap with the skills you need to get a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:51 AM
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Yep, this is true. I also want to clarify because many people on this subreddit have a huge misconception about status. What this "status" refers to is your social status- your position in the hierarchy of your social circle- rather than societal status, your position in overall society. A good way to think about this is social status being your "local" status while societal status being your "universal" status (with local meaning close in social proximity, not geographic). Or another way of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:00 AM
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Like some others said: money yes, status no. Attraction to status is very much real, but many people on this subreddit get the concept of status wrong. What this "status" refers to is your social status- your position in the hierarchy of your social circle- rather than societal status, your position in overall society. A good way to think about this is social status being your "local" status while societal status being your "universal" status (with local meaning close in social proximity, not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:51 AM
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No, money doesn't really have anything to do with status. Your local drug dealer has more status than plenty of billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:47 AM
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a lot of us especially those who want kids, probably think how beautiful their children would look, and have a mentality of "I would totally plant my seed in that". No, stop projecting your disgusting, creepy mindset onto men in general. Most men absolutely do NOT think like this. Men like you are doing a huge disservice to all men by agreeing with the same misandrist generalizations that feminism ascribes. You're just one step below simps, white knights, and male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:17 AM

Most men's problems stem from being in the lower half of the male hierarchy and those problems can be amended if men preform the necessary demands and rise in the hierarchy. No, this is simply wrong. Yes, men lower in the hierarchy do have it worse off, but feminism creates just as many problems for the top 5% men as the bottom 95%; the only difference is that the top men have much more going on for them that shields them from these problems. But even then, not entirely- just ask Johnny Depp or …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:28 AM

Copy/pasting from my other comment: Men don't have a collective identity like women do. Naturally, men compete with each other while women cooperate with each other, which drives the women are wonderful effect (female in group bias + male outgroup bias). Because of this, a movement that stands for men is doomed to fail. Instead, the only way for the men's rights movement to induce male solidarity is to stand against a common enemy- feminism and the gynocentric mainstream. That's why all suggesti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:20 AM

So do you think more men need to adopt a mirrored version of this worldview, to serve as a counterweight to the female agenda? A stronger sense of collective identity based on their sex, to more effectively advocate for male interests? Yes, no. Men don't have a collective identity like women do. Naturally, men compete with each other while women cooperate with each other, which drives the women are wonderful effect (female in group bias + male outgroup bias). Because of this, a movement that sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:12 AM

No, you're completely off the mark. I'll start with the part where you're the most wrong- reproductive issues, abortion in particular (since you're clearly referring to that). Contrary to feminist propaganda that anti-abortion laws are "men taking away women's rights", abortion is almost entirely a liberal vs conservative issue and a religious issue, and women are most definitely NOT in solidarity on abortion outside your liberal bubbles. If you look at actual data, the divide between men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:55 AM

There is just no reason to favor your rivals over the people you want to preproduce with. Said no woman ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:20 AM

Gonna be honest, if this is how you think women advocate or how men should advocate This is absolutely how women advocate, and it's how men should advocate but don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:13 AM

But I don't value my friendships with women more than those with men, That means you're not a girl's girl. The key part of being a girl's girl is putting women before men, and especially putting your female friends above your male partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:45 AM

The key part of being a girl's girl is putting women before men though (which isn't necessarily man hating), especially putting your girl friends at the same level or even above your boyfriend/husband. Do you identify with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:43 AM

What do you like about the spirit? To me there seems to be a big difference between "looking out for other women" and "putting women before men".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:40 AM
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You were off to a good start with the title of your post and went off the rails with this comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:44 AM
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Very good connection you made here. The current state of society is at least somewhat balanced because capitalism biologically privileges men in the professional sphere, while women are biologically privileged in the social sphere. By eliminating the socioeconomic/professional hierarchy inherent to capitalism, social democracy restricts your position in society to your position in the social sphere- so thus, such a society becomes a de facto matriarchy. I will say, it's a bit inaccurate to reduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:41 AM
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Yeah I think that's what happened. I'll repost it.
/r/MensRights18/06/24 08:03 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:08 AM
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An example of what? I'm the one asking the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:56 AM
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None of this answers the question. I'm specifically asking whether evidence provided by another user has changed your mind during a debate on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:50 AM

pre-industrial life was overall more fulfilling for everyone That's all I need to stop taking you seriously a woman had to have a husband because women weren’t allowed to even own credit cards till 1974 And this ruins your credibility even more. In reality, there was no law forbidding it, it's just banks generally didn't sign off on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:34 AM

r/antinatalism poster detected, opinion rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:26 AM
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I've never accidentally become someone's boyfriend just by showing up to a group over and over. This is how a lot of relationships form though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:46 AM

Oh you mean that there are male feminists too? Yes of course, I thought I implied that in my post. In my post I explained that this is because of self-hating men, and also because feminism has been packaged into woke ideology which many men support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:25 AM

Yes, and I'm very grateful for all the non-feminist women in my life. But sadly non-feminist women becoming increasingly rare (and from my experience is mainly restricted to first or second generation immigrants); any woman immersed in mainstream western culture is a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:19 AM
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But even then society doesn't them consider a loser. Mainstream society says the these "welfare queens" aren't losers but rather disadvantaged victims. The only people who use "welfare queen" as an insult are conservatives, who hold no social or cultural power whatsoever and are all but going extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:37 AM
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Men are losers, women are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:35 AM
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No, I've never seen this a single time. Throughout all of elementary, middle and high school, I've never noticed a girl ever being bullied. I've seen guys get bullied, but even then I could count the number of these guys on one hand. Partook yourself in calling them frigid, or ugly, or fat or skanks, etc..? Call them dogs or tell them they were too ugly to even rape? Hell no. I've never seen ANYONE be insulted like that. Did you grow up in the hood or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:31 AM
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There should be affirmative action programs for men in the job market, especially in female dominated fields. There should be just as many initiatives aimed towards getting men into higher education as there are aimed towards getting women into STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:02 AM

Well like it or not they're looksmatched
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:38 PM

This isn't a gorgeous woman. It's an average woman getting dates with normal, respectful average men. This kills the idea that women's matches on Tinder are all "ugly creepy losers".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:21 PM
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Maintaining a platonic friendship, yes. Becoming someone's best friend or becoming a core member of a friend group? That's a lot closer in difficulty to finding a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:14 PM
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Did you know that not all men are Redpillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:12 PM
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Wow a woman admitting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:12 PM
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Thank you, finally someone who gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:11 PM
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I literally just explained to you why your study is irrelevant. Try READING my explanation this time: A study on how many close friends men and women have has nothing to do with my claim. Use your brain for a second and think about why. Here's a hint: this is about social groups, not close friendships. And also, men and women have different standards for the term "close friends". (Particularly, female "close friends" are much closer than male "close friends".) Like I said, truly a walking bluepi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:51 PM
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Can you read? try to read my previous comment and actually understand it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:47 PM
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You need to work on your reading comprehension dude. The study you linked has literally nothing to do with my claim. The claim was: In the social market, women are automatically accepted into social groups as long as she's cooperative/agreeable, even if she's boring and unexceptional. But for a male to be accepted, he needs to bring something of his own- whether it's being exceptionally funny/interesting, exceptionally well-connected, exceptionally intelligent, etc. A study on how many close fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:38 PM
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Sigh. If you can't tell that how lonely people claim to feel is very different from how lonely people actually feel, and that how lonely people feel is very different from how lonely people are you're truly beyond help. Your stupid study means nothing at all. Imagine calling yourself an adult and not understanding this. When you dismiss extremely compelling evidence as "dudes whining in social media echo chambers" then you've know you've already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:26 PM
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If you want a girl attracted to you, there has to be something for her to be attracted to. If you're not assertive, or funny, or creative, or adventurous, or entertaining or cute or brave.... like... what do you WANT a girl to be attracted to? So you agree with the idea of inherent female value and male disposability? Men need to bring something to the table, women are the table. Because a girl who's "not assertive, or funny, or creative, or adventurous, or entertaining or cute or brave" would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:22 PM
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2) Yes, obviously. Literally look at the complaints of loneliness on social media, it's clearly almost entirely coming from one gender. You'll also see there's a difference in the loneliness complaints- men complain that they don't have anyone at all, women complain that their lonely despite having lots of people in their lives. Even more compelling though is the interaction between the r/foreveralone vs r/foreveralonewomen. The former would accept ANY girl that asks him out and would love to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:45 AM
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1) For dating this is easy. Search up the pig woman experiment for instance. There's Tinder experiments showing obese women getting flooded with matches and dates, even when she explicitly specifies LTR only. On dating apps, average women date and have relationships with hot men all the time. For the social circle claim there obviously aren't any studies on this. But I haven't seen a SINGLE girl who doesn't have a friend group or at least a few close friends, which is really saying something. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:33 AM
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I'm not gonna go digging through the other threads for your comments lmao. If you want to get answered paste them here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:27 AM

Nope. All the privileges I wrote apply to all women, attractive and unattractive. And no, I'm not "not noticing" unattractive women, I've lurked on r/foreveralonewomen and all theses privileges apply very much to them. The person is obviously in a first world country writing this crap because women in many parts of the world do not get any sort of societal privilege. Duh. Non western women are completely irrelevant to any of my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:26 AM

Ok, now imagine going without sex or relationships for your entire life, and not by choice. Not only that, you get zero validation and only elicit repulsion from the opposite gender. How many of your female friends have gone through that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:22 AM

It's not about changing dating, it's about changing mainstream discourse and culture. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:17 AM
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Sigh. I'll try to explain this to you one last time. Men are privileged in some areas of life, women are privileged in others, that's a fact. This was always the case, but previously men's privileges were on aggregate greater than women's- hence men were privileged. Now this is not the case, women's privileges are balanced with men's. But what feminists want to do is eliminate all remaining areas in which men are privileged and simultaneously reinforce female privilege- which leads to women oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:15 AM
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Except it's true. Ever heard of affirmative action? Also, I'm getting hundreds of comments each of the past few threads, many of which are addressed to me. Of course I can't respond to all of them. And you think my post is addressed to you specifically? Your entitlement is really showing here lil bro, you're not the center of the universe. If you want evidence for the women are wonderful effect you can literally go on the Wikipedia page and take a look. There's a bunch of studies linked, but I b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:09 AM
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Dude you and the other guy literally express sadness that you can no longer subjugate women, and you want pity for that. NOBODY has expressed this except the stupid strawman you made up in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:05 AM
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Here you go, men. Here’s the proof that men desire a return to the subjugation and ownership of minorities. You need to work on your reading comprehension my guy. Where did anyone call for this? Men are privileged in some areas of life, women are privileged in others, that's a fact. If you eliminate all of one gender's privilege but not the others, you get one gender being second class to the other. Idk what part of this hard to understand. Btw what's more hilarious about your comment is that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:57 AM
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Is the impotent rage in the room with us right now? Or maybe you're just projecting. Either way, the point I've extensively made is that non-western societies have completely different cultures and contexts. Western women demonizing western men based on what goes on in non-western societies is like Americans demonizing the US government based on what the North Korean government does. No, I literally addressed this the last paragraph of my previous comment, which you either didn't notice or faile…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:12 AM
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If that's truly impossible, I guess feminism wins then. Maybe we'll be seeing a matriarchy in a few decades where 90% of CEOs and politicians are women. Or maybe China will just conquer us before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:55 AM
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Well, how about you go a feminist subreddit and try to get a consensus that the vitriol against men is entirely "sins of the father", and that men aren't privileged today. Good luck with that. As for your second point, as I literally just said: Non-western places are completely irrelevant here, they're completely different cultures and different contexts. It's pathetic and despicable how western women and male feminists try to co-opt the genuine oppression faced by many non-western women to adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:53 AM
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Yep, fully agree. As can be easily seen, feminism is simply unable to tolerate the existence of male privilege in any aspect of life, even when female privilege in other aspects more than counterbalances it. The feminist movement will never be satisfied until the point where every single last male privilege is eliminated and women have privilege in all aspects of life- in the words, the point where men are de facto second-class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:48 AM
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No. It’s because historically, women were oppressed. By men… And so now women view men in general as oppressors. Any woman under 40 hasn't been oppressed a single day in her life. "Sins of the father" is not a valid excuse and most people recognize it, hence the narrative that of modern-day male privilege and systemic misogyny. You really think that mainstream society doesn't believe that men are privileged today? There are places in the world where women are still oppressed by men to this day… …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:38 AM

Why? I think all of them are fine, perhaps except the race one. Also, do you even like women? Women irl are fine. Women online are despicable. Do you even like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:30 AM
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Yes, many men are filled with internalized misandry, for example you. Doesn't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:27 AM
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Any vitriol us men may experience in mainstream culture is just a reaction to the historical atrocities that men (as a collective) have committed towards women. No it's not. If it were, there would substantially less support for it. The primary reason there is so much vitriol against men in mainstream culture is that even today, men are considered privileged and women are considered oppressed. The entire point of this post and my last one is to explain why that's not true and that needs to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:22 AM
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I wrote my last paragraph specifically for people like you. Now I anticipate one of the most common retorts will be something along the lines of "but this entire framework is stupid in the first place!" I personally agree to a large extent, but this framework isn't going anywhere, so the best we can do is try to be achieve justice within it. The only way for the privileged/oppressed class framework to put to rest is for conservatives to regain social and cultural power, which won't happen for at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:12 AM

You don't say that tho. You think it's absolutely a fact and anyone who does a "compelling argument" is just wrong. bruh, "straight facts"/"all facts" is an expression. just because i've yet to see a compelling argument against my past two posts doesn't mean i'm not open to one. I know damn well women are addicted to validation but didn't know inkwells are also obsessed with it not an inkwell but of course men are obsessed with validation too. just not as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:31 AM

that's how debate works. why would i post it if i don't think it's true? i'll change my mind if i hear a compelling argument against yet but i haven't yet. Why are men so addicted to validation omg ironic coming from a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:23 AM

my posts are all facts. at the very least, my past two are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:16 AM

You're not a girl's girl then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:15 AM

Already made 4 banger posts in 4 days. How do yall like them so far? My current ideas for the next 4 (subject to change): Men want change in mainstream culture and discourse, not the violation of female autonomy. (just started writing this, inspired by yesterday's post) Swapping race for gender proves that women are sexist, bigoted hypocrites. Women project the monolithic female hivemind onto men. The future is female. I think after these I'll wait for a while before posting more, since making t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:06 AM

But that alone doesn't make you a girl's girl. The hallmark of being a girl's girl is genuinely preferring and trusting women more than men, and putting female relationships before and over male ones. Do these apply to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:34 AM

Chad is on dating apps for the convenience of ordering women to his house like doordash. But most men who are on dating apps are there because they struggle to date in real life. So dating apps are generally a sign you're not attractive or high-value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:31 AM

It's definitely somewhat of a sign of not socializing enough, but more importantly, it's primarily a sign that you're not attractive and high-value enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:18 AM

Q4W: What do you think of "girl's girls"? Do you consider yourself one? Is being one a good thing? I'm asking because I've been seeing the term a lot on social media that women are proud to be "girl's girls". If you aren't familiar with the term, here are the comments on this thread defining "girl's girl" that I find most accurate: "Genuinely preferring and trusting women more than men, supporting your female friends and lifting them up, recognizing that most guys will not provide you unconditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:12 AM

Sigh. Back to the government-mandated gf insinuations lol I'm seeing this so much that I think I have to make a new post for this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:12 AM

This is due to the fact that women are inherently valuable while women are inherently disposable. Women's inherent value (in contrast to men's inherent disposability) is one of the fundamental female privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:05 AM
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LOL i'm saving this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:36 AM
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As I explained many times in this thread, this is very reductive and completely incorrect. There are MANY contributors to female privilege besides being desired for sex by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:34 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:32 AM
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Even in dating alone, there are many more factors contributing to female privilege than just male horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:31 AM
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Not it doesn't. (1) and (2) (female value, women are wonderful effect + ingroup bias) still apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:03 AM
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So, has “acknowledging privilege” actually changed anything? It changes discourse and the mainstream narrative, which affects everything from people's attitudes towards your struggles to government policies. And also, fundamentally, mainstream discourse and attitudes DOES have a huge impact on your well-being and self-worth, unless you fully immerse yourself in a bubble. Are those people of color who are less advantaged gained anything from the subset of whites (who are usually the richer and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:05 AM
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My thing is what do you gain from women "admitting their privilege"? The same thing any underprivileged group gains from a privileged group acknowledging their privilege. And if we really want to expand on this someone in the world always has it worse than you. Yes, I agree. Does that mean their issues aren't real and dont matter? No, it means that their issues are not as serious as the people who have it worse than them. That doesn't mean their issues aren't real. I don't know why this is alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:14 AM
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What a terrible analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:08 AM
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There's much more to it than the male sex drive. Boiling everything down to "men are hornier than women" is extremely reductive and simply incorrect. And like I explained in the comment, the "what can be done about it" is for women to acknowledge their privilege. That's all men are asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:02 AM
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So glad I'm living in the US and not that garbage country. Sadly though, it seems like we're going in their direction.
/r/MensRights15/06/24 06:55 AM
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This is a bit too hyperbolic, but unironically it's very much directionally true and I agree with your sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:48 AM
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And by "problematic thinking", you mean any thinking that doesn't subscribe to your specific ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:42 AM
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I think it's pretty simple: women are nicer to other women because they don't represent a sexual or physical threat to us. No, it's because females have an inherent ingroup bias. For example, women notoriously overrate other women in looks, which has nothing to do with men's or women's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:34 AM
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Why are you linking random posts on PPD? Nobody cares what a fringe minority of delusional Redpillers have to say. As I thoroughly explained in my post, female ingroup bias allows women to form strong social networks and make friends with significantly less effort than men. That's a form of privilege inherent to your gender. There's nothing wrong with having a privilege so long you acknowledge it, but what IS wrong is ignoring your privilege and attributing your success entirely to effort. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:10 AM
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It’s very simple The reason I am more open, trusting, giving, helpful and friendly towards women whites than men blacks is because women whites don’t try to fuck assault and rob me. I assume I am not the only woman white person who does this How does this statement by a white person sound to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:06 AM
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Nobody claimed it was a flaw. You're debating a strawman you made up. What female ingroup bias is is a privilege. There is nothing wrong with having a privilege, what is wrong is denying your privilege and acting like your achievements based on merit. Like the other commenter said, women attributing their strong social networks to their effort is akin to nepo babies attributing their career success to their effort. I see all the time on here that men wish to hate women for contradictory things. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:03 AM
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Thank you, finally someone who understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:58 AM
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So if men want to build up the same social networks it's on them to do it with each other. My entire first point is dedicated to explaining why this is not possible. Did you even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:57 AM
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I said that it: prevents men from bonding with each other as easily as women do with each other The correct analog is: you owning a brownie factory prevents me from making more brownies than you do. Group A has a huge advantage in something, group B doesn't have that advantage, thus preventing group B from doing better than group A in this thing. It's not about if group B can do well, it's about if they can do better than group A. I don't know what's so hard to understand this about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:59 AM
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What is the specific mechanism of action that me being able to more easily bond with my female friends that actually affects your ability to bond with your male friends in any way? Irrelevant question. Every single claim I made is about men's ease of bonding relative to women. Seems like you concede my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:16 AM
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Women and feminists in particular should actively push against "kill all men" or "men are trash" rhetoric Ironic statement coming from you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:09 AM
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The feminist logic is that stereotyping minorities is not okay because minorities are oppressed, but stereotyping men is okay because men are privileged. That is, unless the minority is Indian or Asian- they're privileged so it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:57 AM
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Ok, now do you admit that women having an extremely strong ingroup bias (while men don't really have one) prevents men from bonding with each other as easily as women do with each other? Because my post is about men compared to women, nobody said men can't form deep bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:50 AM
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No they aren't. I literally linked research that overwhelmingly supported my claims about female ingroup bias, then I explained this bias causes women to prefer women for friendship/companionship. Your point on "opening up emotionally" doesn't even make sense because female ingroup bias and inherent female value are about the initial stages of making friends and joining a friend group, and you don't "open up emotionally" that early. Emotions and stuff is only relevant for building a deeper conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:41 AM
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Because western society is the epitome of gynocentrism and institutionalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:32 AM
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This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger\5]) than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.\5])
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:19 AM
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Do you deny the existence of female ingroup bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:12 AM
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You haven't even tried to dispute a single one of my points, besides handwaving it with "I don't think so". If you engage with my points I'll engage with yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:04 AM
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Got anything better than useless ad hominems? Always the male feminists trying to turn a completely impersonal post into something personal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:02 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:09 AM
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Women are as desperate for love from Chad as men are for sex FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:08 AM

I'm not appealing to his authority. This is literally a random diagram to illustrate the concept of hypergamy, not some scientific graph. I can find a billion other diagrams like this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:25 AM

I'm pretty sure it should say "invisible". Sadly the maker of the graph (some random Redpill dude, not myself) is clearly not the best at spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:13 AM

A random study that I've thoroughly explained the irrelevancy of is a "giant truth stick"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:57 AM

Well that's obviously true. In the context of this post though, most would assume "attractive" to mean its "good-looking" definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:32 AM

Bruh I just chose a random diagram. Ok, here's this one where the top one isn't left out. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:36 AM

It doesn't break down targets by gender, so it's entirely plausible it's women's high ratings of other women dragging their average up (or the reverse for men). For instance, say men on average rate men a 5 and women a 5, and women on average rate men a 4 and women a 7. Clearly, women underrate men and overrate women, despite giving a higher average rating than men. By overrating/underrating I primarily mean relative to the opposite gender, not in absolute ratings. So rating the average man a 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:22 AM

I mean, I've already seem women in this thread saying that women are genuinely more attractive than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:12 AM

I wrote my last paragraph specifically for people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:11 AM

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/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:10 AM

The part you quoted is about self-perceived attractiveness, aka irrelevant to the post. Men rating other's people's attractiveness lower also doesn't contradict anything (especially since overrating/underrating one gender is about relative ratings, not absolute). Again, work on your reading comprehension. I can't believe I have to spell this out to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:08 AM

My post has nothing to do with self-assessment. It's entirely about how each gender rates other people from their own gender vs those from the opposite gender. Your study is completely irrelevant to this point, in fact in the results section it doesn't even split targets by gender. Try working on your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:03 AM

Irrelevant study. Edit: full explanation of why, since some people have to have it spelled out: My post has nothing to do with self-assessment. It's entirely about how each gender rates other people from their own gender vs those from the opposite gender. This study is completely irrelevant to this point, in fact in the results section it doesn't even split targets by gender. Men rating other's people's attractiveness lower also doesn't contradict anything. The study doesn't break down targets b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:59 AM
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I fully explained in the post: I made this post because whenever men complain that they have it harder in this area, the enlightened centrists come and say "women have it hard too! just in different ways". As we can see, obviously this is not the case. That's not to say women don't have problems- but comparing women's and men's problems in this arena is like comparing the struggles of a billionaire whose investments are doing poorly with those of a poor immigrant struggling to make ends meet. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:46 AM
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You're the one who's not. Again, basic logic: assuming all lineages are equally likely to survive, the fact that the reproductive success ratio is 1:4 implies the actual reproduction ratio is around 1:4. Assuming 80% of women had children, that means 20% of men did. In order for the numbers to be very different from this, there must be an extremely high disparity in survival rates between lineages of "top" and "bottom" men in ancient society. This is an extraordinary claim and there's no compell…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:41 AM
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Sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:35 AM

I said animal attack because you said animal attack. Women are scared of men because we are raised that way by Fathers warned us against. SO you can't have it both ways. Yes, internalized misandry is common among fathers. That doesn't make it any less of women's responsibility to unlearn it. Here's an analogy: let's say a guy learned from his conservative mother that women are only good for cooking, cleaning, and motherhood. Does he get to use the "we were raised that way" excuse and keep these …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:30 AM
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No, stop projecting modern western society onto all of history. We are talking about a time period where agriculture had only recently been invented, and currency and written language didn't exist yet. There likely weren't even official legal codes in society back then, and you're here talking about child support, LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:25 AM
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I debunked that garbage blog post in another comment. And obviously neither can be straight-up proven, but the less than 1:4 ratio in reproductive success is significant evidence that a minority of men have had children. I've yet to see any evidence of there being a significant disparity in survival rates between lineages of "top" and "bottom" men in ancient society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:20 AM
2

How do you know that the women in your life don't secretly have unhinged beliefs that they aren't sharing to you?
/r/MensRights13/06/24 04:17 AM
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Lol I've said it before but these women are legit NPCs. "Incel" is like the only word in their vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:58 AM
1

To you it's a womens rights issue, to pro-lifers it's a murdering babies issue and has nothing to do with women's rights. I really don't understand how liberal women keep failing to understand this. Regardless, when close to half of prolifers are women, pro-life legislation clearly isn't "men coming up with oppressive legislation to disadvantage women".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:55 AM
1

Totally irrelevant. Think to yourself for a moment why lack of regulation about something (that's not even inherently gendered) is by definition not an example of "men coming up with oppressive legislation to disadvantage women".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:52 AM
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I just responded, and the fact you think this garbage blog post was some kind of own says quite a lot about you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:48 AM
1

This isn't the gotcha you think it is, because if you actually the blog you just linked you'd see the entire thing is a massive gish gallop meant to sound smart and "scientific". The author simply rehashes a bunch of studies that supports his viewpoint while ignoring or handwavily dismissing everything that goes against it. It's telling that for someone trying to be "scientific", a meta-analysis is not even attempted. As always when dealing with gish gallops, I'll focus on one example. This is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:39 AM
1

Hear that folks? Demanding that commenters on your post engage with your central question rather than derailing is now considered sociopathic behavior! Maybe you should pick up a dictionary and learn what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:58 AM
1

If you read the question, it's not about gender swapping. Ok I'll ask you then, what would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:51 AM
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I'm too lazy to fully do the math right now but it would take a large difference in survival rates between the lineages of "top" men and "lower" men in order for the reproductive success ratio to be significantly different from just the reproduction ratio. Intuitively, with the "top men" you have probably better genetics but also decreased parental investment (being a bastard child doesn't really give you any privileges...), but unless you have clear information about the hierarchy/structure of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:22 AM
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success According to the article: "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:41 AM
0

Did you read the last paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:41 AM
3

Read the last paragraph. https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success According to the article: "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:41 AM
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success According to the article: "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:41 AM
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success According to the article: "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:40 AM
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success According to the article: "In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:40 AM
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Men want women to pick better in character. But women are getting pickier in looks/status while becoming less picky in character, so men blame women for their choices when they get used by rich Chad. What is so hard to understand about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:37 AM
4

Dude, every single sentence of my post is about the west (especially the US). The non-west is completely irrelevant here and you know it. It's telling you had to make such a stretch. Also, how is repealing Roe v. Wade not disadvantaging women? It was like one of the dumbest things to happen in the 21st century, bar none. Roe v Wade is not a man vs woman issue, it's a conservative vs liberal issue. The difference in support between genders is small, and the most vocal pro-lifers are conservative …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:25 AM
1

name one "oppressive legislation to disadvantage women" from the 21st century. (and if it's abortion-related, you have an IQ under 50 and can be automatically written off)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:31 AM
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success you're the one making things up, twisting what i've said, putting words into my mouth, and ignoring every one of my points. since it's very clear what your agenda is, we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:02 AM
0

Ever heard of IQ, arguably the most valid and thoroughly backed construct in the field of psychology? Or are you one of those delusional "IQ is meaningless and just a number" type of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:57 AM
0

Most of the time people talking about these theories are trying to reduce human beings to patterns and algorithms. They defend themselves by saying they're just dealing in facts and being scientific about it, and anyone who disagrees is emotional and irrational. Yes, and they completely right. You are having a visceral, emotional reaction to human beings being reduced to numbers and statistics. But statistics aren't and never will be some kind of map to life. LOL, I am bookmarking this quote for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:54 AM
0

Did you miss the stat that 80% of men didnt reproduce throughout history?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:49 AM
1

Now you know what it's like to argue against ridiculous strawmans, like the one you previously created (though the 100%/1% claim is much closer to reality than yours). And again circling back to my last point which you clearly didn't read: 80% of men in history did not reproduce, so realistically like I said, a significant fraction or even a majority of men lived their lives without getting a date (or whatever the equivalent was back then). The phenomenon of average men getting dates is a remnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:47 AM
0

Did you read my last paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:37 AM
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It seems absurd on its face because you're making it absurd by completely ignoring the relative likelihoods (a common feminist tactic, for ex. "men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them"). A 100% chance of never experiencing love or intimacy your whole life is worse than a 1% chance of rape and violent assault, I think most people would agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:34 AM
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I explicitly stated "in the area of interaction with the opposite gender", and you completely ignored my main point (women prefer the female experience to the male experience), so your argument is totally irrelevant. Nonetheless, considering that feminism has a stronghold on all of western society, traditional conservatism has all but died out, and the patriarchy has ceased to exist since decades ago, the only "discriminatory social norms" that exist right now are against men. unseating discrimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:30 AM
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I explicitly stated in what area women have it harder. Because women overwhelmingly get the shit end of the stick in the sexual assault and rape areas of “opposite gender interaction.” The positive male attention more than makes up for it, as evidenced by women's answer to the question. If women truly had it worse, they would've been willing to eliminate all positive male attention in exchange for removing the chance of harassment, assault, and rape. Lastly, you yourself brought up enforced mono…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:23 AM
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Yes, I deleted it after automod removed it. I did edit my comment with responses to your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:20 AM
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That's from your post. That's not a normal male experience. It might be your experience and I'm sure there are lot of men who relate to you, but it isn't the norm. I know you're trying to insult me and insinuate that I'm a creep, but in reality I have never in my life expressed the slightest hint of interest in any woman. Try again. This experience is what I gleaned from what both men and women say on Reddit. It's definitely a very common male experience, and your anecdotes of what's the norm in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:14 AM
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The point here is that men have it harder than women in the area of opposite gender interaction. Nobody said the words "return to forced monogamy" except you. Did you know that a claim could be descriptive and not normative or prescriptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:12 AM
1

Therapy is the left's new religion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:28 AM
1

Words have meanings, did you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:56 AM
2

Nobody thinks that drinking beer and watching sports are a hobby. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:55 AM
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It's like asking, would you rather die from an animal attack or be r__ped and then brutally killed? No it's not. It's actually asking asking: would you rather have a 10% chance of dying from an animal attack, or a 0.00001% chance of getting raped and brutally killed? The only rational choice is the latter, and anyone who chooses "bear" is doing so out of feelings rather than facts. Now, it's okay to feel scared of strange men, but it's your responsibility to control your emotions and not let it …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:08 AM
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I thought so originally, but then I asked the man vs bear question on an anonymous social media platform for my college. 2/3 of women chose bear, and many of them were legit parroting nonsensical feminist talking points (e.g. "at least the bear won't ask me what I wore"). So now I'm questioning if these beliefs ARE in fact common, but women don't say them in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:11 AM

I don't hate women. Stating that women are hypergamous is not hating them; I explicitly assigned no moral judgement to hypergamy. You're the only one who said the word "greedy bumbling idiots" (a totally bizarre interpretation of my claims).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:55 AM

I literally rejected it. Try again LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:45 AM

If multiple men are posting this stuff over and over and over again, then yes, it’s a sign Nobody is posting this stuff except redpill losers on tiny internet forums. I can find lots of examples from FDS, TwoX, etc of women saying way worse things I don’t even identify as a feminist so your “teaching moment” falls short. you sure seem to, based on how much you hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:44 AM

nope, stop pretending that passport bros are anything representative of most men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:34 AM

edit: I'm not diaspora, genius. well then it's incredibly ironic that you want to marry a western man, but complain about/insult western men going overseas to find women in fact, your argument is literally the flipped version of that of passport bros. you and them are two sides of the same coin LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:31 AM

In the west there are still many traditional conservative women around. These are not western women. OP's definition of "western women" means culturally western, and mainstream western culture is not conservative by any means. Conservatism has long since lost the culture war to progressivism. Where I disagree with OP though is his ridiculous pretense that passport bros complaining about western women are anything but a fringe group on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:26 AM

Men aren't a monolith. You think that "most men" are passport pros hating on western women? Some of you are absolutely not satisfied unless a woman flagellates herself or wears a scarlet letter A. Congrats, now you know how men feel in a feminist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:19 AM

because I'm Iranian and my mom always tells my brothers to marry someone from the west. classic internalized racism and white worship. is this very prevalent in the iranian diaspora?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:15 AM

Nobody is bringing up "oppressed submissive Asian waifus" except you. This sounds like a projection, do you secretly want them yourself? Based on OP's post, I assume his definition of "western woman" means a woman who's culturally westernized. This is a woman who's fully immersed in mainstream western culture, the hallmarks of which include militant feminism/misandry, a strong sense of entitlement, and an emphasis on unfettered hedonism. Any woman who's conservative, traditional, or egalitarian …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:11 AM

I personally find this post ridiculous but love how much it's triggering the women here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:59 AM
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In real life, my experiences with women have been mostly neutral to positive- women are generally nice and polite to me, and I have no trouble working with them academically/professionally. They just avoid forming actual connections with me (which is totally fine, I don't feel entitled any such thing). However, my negative experiences with women have pretty much entirely been online (Reddit and Instagram in particular). Seeing the things they say about men and their attitudes towards men on Redd…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:06 AM
0

Of course you're not armed. The bear/man is 20 feet away. The type of bear doesn't matter; if it's a small black bear vs a convicted felon, the logical answer is still the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:22 PM
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Personally, I would choose the man in a heartbeat. My answer wouldn't change if he was a convicted felon or convicted murderer. If he was a convicted rapist I'd hesitate a bit... but I'd still choose the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:19 PM
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Q4M: Would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear, or with a (randomly chosen) gay man who's 5 inches taller than you, 30 pounds heavier than you, and significantly stronger than you? Follow-up: Would your answer change if this man was a convicted felon? IF not, what if he was a convicted murderer or rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:18 PM
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The point of the thought exercise is misandry, nothing more. We fully get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:15 PM
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Would you rather be alone in a forest with a normal bear or a bear with a human brain? And now assume this human brained bear may be sexually interested in you? That's not a valid comparison; the strength difference between bears and men is much greater than that between men and women. A much better comparison is: Would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear, or with a gay man who's 5 inches taller than you, 30 pounds heavier than you, and significantly stronger than you? To me the answer i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:14 PM
1

You got lucky. If the bear was hungry you'd be eaten alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:06 PM
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Delusional. Humans dominated animals in large groups using technology (as primitive as they are, spears and knives are still technology). Not 1 on 1 with their bare hands. If the bear 20 feet away from you thinks you might be tasty, you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:02 PM
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Q4W: Do you think that most women's answer to the "man vs bear" question are genuine? Particularly, if you answered bear, let's say that you were in a forest and a bear appeared 20 feet away from you. Would you snap your fingers to have it replaced with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:52 PM
2

Sadly men are biologically and culturally hardwired to be simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:32 PM

Yes, men are logical while women are emotional. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:35 PM
1

Wtf? That's legit the dumbest thing I've ever heard of, right up there with "body positivity". Being confident in your looks without actually looking good is called arrogance/delusion. Loving how you look is called narcissism. If you look bad, you should admit you look bad, and that comes with not being confident in your looks. By definition, being confident in something means you believe you can rely/trust on it. If you look bad then this isn't true, so confidence would necessarily imply delusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:29 AM
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I completely agree with you. In fact, the same holds true for many other things, including personality and social skills. If you have a major flaw (e.g. you're rude to everyone, you're a total shut-in that's too shy to order a meal) then you can improve a lot by fixing that. But for a somewhat normal person, "social skills maxxing" is going to have marginal improvements and will never make you into a "Charming, outgoing, intuitive, sociable, assured, lower-inhib" man (quote from a prolific femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:53 AM
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Yes. I explicitly explained why that's not misogyny, if you don't get it that's on you. Male variability justifies men dominating influential roles AND the dregs of society. Anything you have to say about my examples or do you admit I proved you wrong there?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:33 AM
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The framework of our entire society and culture has been created by men, for men. So incredibly wrong. For much of history, women have been just as powerful as men, if not even more so. And men in power do not create culture for men as a collective. You have a child's understanding of culture and power. In most influential roles in our society, men still dominate these spaces. As they should. Greater male variability means there are more men on the right tail. In a meritocracy, men SHOULD domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:40 AM
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Actually I agree. Feminism is a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:34 AM
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That's true. It tells men that they are worthless objects who are not valuable for anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:06 PM
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Like I don't think of this as so much of a standard but from my experience women are much more likely to be supportive emotionally, whereas while there are some men who are good at being emotionally supportive LOL this is a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:23 PM
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Gender-flipped incel ideology. Aka the belief that men as a class oppress women as a class, and thus all misandry is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:16 PM
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The difference is that incels are a fringe group that has zero actual power. Whereas radical feminist ideology is entrenched in every facet of mainstream society, from academia to corporations to the government. The fundamental difference between misogyny and misandry is that the former is relegated to the dark corners of the internet, while the latter is adopted by the most powerful institutions. I don't understand why this is so difficult for people to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:09 PM
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Wtf? You've got to work on your reading comprehension man. My entire comment is about the second study on medical students. I even used "men" and "women" throughout the entire comment, not males and females. I have no clue why you're trying to shoehorn the rat study in, I never brought it up and I'm not talking about it. I’m discussing behavior patterns. You always bro signal by calling out perceived virtue signaling. Again wtf? I never ONCE mentioned virtue signaling. Nothing even close to it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:06 PM
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No, because all women are desired. Any women who wants a "feminine, introverted, passive, thoughtful, and inhibited men" can get one, and probably one way out of her league at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:37 AM
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As always, you cherry pick what you want from studies to hint that women are somehow more virtuous than men. Here's the most important part that you missed: Women had self-reported higher affective empathy (EC component) than men, while there were no differences in cognitive empathy (PT component). In other words, men and women have equal cognitive empathy: the ability to understand others' feelings/perspectives actually feeling them. This is the virtue that is associated with empathy. But women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:17 AM
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No, it's very much nature. Men are inherently disposable and women aren't. That's the fundamental reason behind the empathy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:49 AM
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Bachelor of Science ---> 8/10. My logic behind this is PhD, J.D. or M.D. = 10/10, Masters = 9/10 etc Lol where did this come from? I think more accurately: by default, high school grad is 1/10, bachelors and masters are both 3/10, MD and JD are 4/10, PhD is 4.5/10. Then +0.5 for a hard major and -0.5 for an easy one; +1 for a decent (top 30) university, +1 additionally for an excellent (top 2 or 3) university. That caps the score for a "normal person" at a 7, and all other points come from speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:21 AM
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No way. In high school I had a 6'5" classmate who looked pretty average, and he pretty clearly got the same amount of female attention I did (aka zero).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:11 AM
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Income - 10 - I make 400K/year That's a 6 or 7 depending on how old you are. Not a 10. A 10 means you have tens or hundreds of billions of dollars. Education - 10 - I have a PhD in physics PhD in physics at a decent school is a 6, not a 10. If you were an IMO/IPhO Gold Medalist, did your PhD at Stanford/MIT, and published in Nature/Science/PRL, then that's a 9. If you don't have any of these three you're a 7 max, barring some other insane accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:04 AM
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LOL you're the one who's a total joke. If you unironically think that the 0-10 scale is linear, then the education system has truly failed you. The wealth scale is logarithmic, the career scale is a logarithmic at the 7+ range, and the looks scale is roughly normal except at the tails. Regarding finances, OP is in top 2% net worth for his age group. More like top 0.2%. Your rating for finances is the number of digits in your net worth, minus 1 if you're under 30 or minus 2 if you're over 30. Sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:11 AM
4

Which option would you choose? Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:26 AM
1

Can't handle the fact that someone brings you back down to earth instead of simping for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:09 AM
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Personal insults don't work on me buddy. You know I've said nothing but facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:09 AM
1

This is how even below average women rate themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:55 AM
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Have you been scouted by top modeling agencies? If you have I'll believe that you're a 7+.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:54 AM
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Life situation: 8-9/10. I own a few investment properties, multiple luxury cars, take multiple trips a year, basically whatever I think of I can do. That's a 7/10. Fancy but nothing special. A 9/10 means you have a fleet of private jets and the power to influence national politics. Career: 9/10. Im an oral and maxillofacial surgeon. You have cancer in your jaw? Im your guy. Your face got wrecked in a crash? I’m your guy before your appointment with a plastic surgeon. Wisdom teeth? Pop em out all…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:53 AM
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I’m saying that there would be very little consensus on who the most attractive woman out of 1,000 women is. That's true. However there would be significantly more consensus on who the most attractive man out of 1000 is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:34 AM
1

You have the option to make your own dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:29 AM
6

Would you prefer to never be perceived as a sexual being?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:27 AM
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So realistically, somewhere between a 3 and a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:26 AM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:17 AM
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An analogy: yes, a billionaire's investment portfolio not doing well is a perfectly real problem for him. He has the right to feel upset about it. But if he loudly complains about it to a bunch of minimum wage workers struggling to keep a roof over their head, it's very reasonable that he gets laughed at and dismissed. And if he claims to have it worse than the minimum workers, it's very reasonable for him to face significant backlash and vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:04 AM
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Nobody denies that women have problems too. What people have an issue with is women claiming that the female experience sucks just as much, or even more than the male experience (in terms of interactions with the opposite gender).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:00 AM
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See here's the thing. Let's just say you're looksmatched (probably not though, because women overrate women and underrate men; see here for a recent example where a female 4 is claimed to looksmatch with a male 6-7). Women really want a tall men, men don't care about women's height. Women really want a rich man, men don't care that much about how much the female earns. Women really want an big dick (I mean 6-7" range, not 8+), men on aggregate don't care about breast/butt size. So all the traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:58 AM
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Whatever by Michael Houellebecq, if only for this one quote: “It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:25 AM
-1

or maybe it's a sign you're an npc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:52 AM
-1

drinking game: take a shot whenever a blue pill woman says "therapist", "health role model", "insecure", or "chronically online".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:22 AM
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No, just because shaming tactics are constantly used doesn't mean they "have a point". Also, even if it were true, how is it relevant to the thesis of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:08 AM
1

Is this the only retort women know how to say? That and calling men "incels" who "don't get any". At this point I could make a ChatGPT-2 agent that's more creative than the average PPD woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:01 AM
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80% of women are attractive by default. Nope, 100% of women are attractive by default. It takes a very serious flaw in a woman for her to not be able to find a relationship. Even for the five things you mentioned, an overweight, awkward, passive-aggressive woman who has a RBF and terrible communication skills will find a desperate simp willing to treat her like a queen. It's so pathetic. I agree with what you say about men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:59 AM
1

Would you be okay with never having PIV again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:23 AM
-1

Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:09 AM

I have a healthy relationships with my parents/siblings and never experienced any childhood trauma, but I still think of myself as thoroughly undesirable and unlovable. The only thing even resembling trauma I experienced was being a social outcast throughout my entire childhood and adolescence, in almost every single environment I was in. I'm aware this is NOT trauma and doesn't even come compare to actual childhood trauma, but it's still had a really negative impact on my self-esteem and made m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:43 AM

He's a 6-7 and she's a 4 at best. If this isn't hypergamy then what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:36 AM

I came from a healthy, loving 2-parent upper middle class household, and I'm still this way. My main "trauma" was being a social outcast throughout my entire childhood and adolescence, in almost every single environment I was in (school, extracurriculars, sports teams, summer camps, etc). My secondary "trauma" was spending countless hours reading mainstream subreddits/female spaces that constantly demonized men, along with manosphere forums which opened my eyes to reality. Combined, this has res…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:09 AM
2

Would you be okay with never having PIV again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:06 AM
10

Women want the benefits of patriarchy but not the harms, this is very obvious and well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:02 AM

female hypergamy in action again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:29 AM
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The obsession about penis size is mainly from below average men wishing they were average, not average men wishing they were huge. Considering how women treat men who are <4 inches, this obsession is completely reasonable. It's not important unless you're under 4 inches or something, and even then, you can take a page from lesbian sex. Do you realize how degrading that is? "yeah bro, just be a cuck and put on a strap-on and settle for never having PIV". Would you be okay doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:20 AM
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It's disturbing that a significant fraction of men are forced to be asexual robots in social settings, because even the most innocuous expression of their sexuality (e.g. admitting that they have a crush or expressing the desire for a girlfriend) gets them automatically labeled as a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:00 AM
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Because men have actually reasonable standards for looks, unlike women. A 5/10 man would be okay with a 3 or 4/10 woman, while a 5/10 woman demands a 8/10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:57 AM
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Source? Hypergamy based on class and social status is a well-known phenomenon in the social sciences. My thesis which posits that hypergamy holds for all traits is grounded on a combination of empirical observations and theoretical reasoning based on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:00 AM
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I wouldn't consider it sterilizing the dating process, more like analyzing it from an objective perspective. For some reason this tends to offend women... Underplaying the importance of connection in favor of believing that females are calculating, cold-hearted, and superficial beings is not a great strategy. Where did I claim this? Females are superficial yes, calculating and cold-hearted no. Hypergamy operates at a subconcious level. And I don't believe that there's anything magical about "con…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:54 AM
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he is indeed a 6+ in all of those categories. LOL, i knew it. So you agree with me about hypergamy now? unless you're a model yourself this is a perfect example of hypergamy in action. i would gander that most couples do meet those 3 criteria I won't say most. I'd estimate maybe 1-5% of couples fit all 3 criteria. but if you asked women who were with men who didn’t fit the 6-6-6 if they were genuinely happy and they said yes, would you believe them? not automatically, because women aren't honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:42 AM
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Where did I express a low opinion of women? Do you consider hypergamy to be morally wrong? Also, why should I care in the slightest about you not wanting to date me? Do you think I post on PPD to get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:40 AM
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Stop listening to the red pill. They are not representative of normal men. Secondly, again you have asserted without evidence that women in general are unsatisfied with a man equal to them? Yes. Do I also need evidence supporting my assertion that the sky is blue? These really aren't separate concepts. If a woman has no ambition and wants to date a man with lots of ambition is she not hypergamous? My point is they aren't separate concepts but directionality is only one way. Hypergamy implies dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:32 AM
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Not exactly the same. Friendships are generally low-cost/low-commitment, so people usually aren't picky about making casual friends. But when choosing close friends and their primary friend group, women are definitely very picky, and they are also somewhat hypergamous in the males they choose to include (though nowhere near to the same extent as in dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:19 AM
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It's not unfalsifiable, in fact it's quite simple. I define a genuinely fulfilling relationship as satisfying 3 simple criteria: Both people are genuinely, viscerally attracted to each other, both physically and personality-wise. Both people genuinely respect and admire each other, both as a partner and as an individual. Both people have a deep emotional connection with each other. Does your relationship satisfy all 3 criteria? If so, there's a good chance your main is in the top 0.3%. Many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:13 AM
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I think that most would. Those that ideally want a LTR absolutely would given those wild specifications. Well this is where we disagree. My empirical observations tells me few would take the offer, because women aren't attracted to their equivalent male. Your claim is that women are avoiding LTRs due to poor male behavior within relationships and oppressive societal expectations. If that were the case, women would have high standards for character and reasonable standards for superficial traits.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:56 AM
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Secondly, almost all of what you said here can apply to men just as much. Men are hypergamous in terms of looks, youth, fertility, personality traits like submissive or agreeable, innocent or purity. Incorrect. The entire point of my post is that women are hypergamous in every single trait. There isn't one trait in which men must date up to be satisfied, whereas women must date up in all traits to be satisfied. Men are hypergamous in terms of looks, youth, fertility, personality traits like subm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:29 AM
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I fully addressed this in my post. This number only applies for genuinely fulfilling LTRs, aka alpha bux. The vast majority of relationships are alpha fux or beta bux. Most marriages are beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:22 AM
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My logic is completely sound and you haven't said anything that refutes it. Copy/pasting from my previous comment: Here's a thought experiment: suppose a magical genie offered all women a relationship in which her partner was guaranteed to be perfectly kind, loving, supportive, generous, communicative, and emotionally intelligent, and to give the relationship his all. He wouldn't have an ounce of misogyny, chauvinism, toxic masculinity, etc. However, the catch is that he is her male equivalent i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:20 AM
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For generations women sought out relationships because they contributed to a better and happier life. Thanks to modernization and feminism, women can now make a living all on their own. I completely agree with this. So when you take away the financial and legal pros of a relationship, what are you left with? A shit load of bad that women have watched generations of women go through, that 50 years ago may have been worth it, but now absolutely not. I completely disagree with this. The entire poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:07 AM
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My entire post literally explains the why. Females are naturally hypergamous, but in the past women often settled for men who don't fulfill her hypergamous instincts out of social pressure. With the advent of female liberation and erosion of enforced monogamy, nowadays there is no such pressure. But posts like this seem to just ignore that whole part and opt for “well women are weird 🤷🏼‍♀️”. Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:58 AM
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Was this written by chat gpt?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:21 PM

It's so weird that whenever someone talks about how criticism of women isn't acceptable in mainstream society, blue pillers bring up how criticism of women is accepted in fringe corners of the internet (e.g. the manosphere, ppd). It has to be intentional obtuseness at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:51 PM

ie "I'm an active person and I like women who are as active as I am" is expressing a preference in a way that isn't going to upset anyone. But if you say "I don't date fat chicks, gross, I don't want a nasty landwhale", you sound like a tool who likes punching down on women for... idk not being attractive FOR you? Meanwhile, women will loudly and proudly proclaim that "men under 6 feet are just little boys" and "men who won't spoil me are useless bums", and other women will cheer her on saying "…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:45 PM

It's so weird that whenever someone talks about how criticism of women isn't acceptable in mainstream society, blue pillers bring up how women are criticized in fringe corners of the internet (e.g. the manosphere, ppd). It has to be intentional obtuseness at this point. Why don't you point out to me ANY article or clip in the mainstream media in which women's standards are criticized?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:35 PM

In context, female = woman or girl. Look at a dictionary. Just using female is othering women. Like I said, hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:14 PM

You're wrong. According to the Merriam Webster dictionary, one of the definitions for "female" as a noun is: ": a female person : a woman or a girl" In my other comment I explained in detail why "women and girl" doesn't work as a replacement. And no, I'm not calling a 5-year old girl a "lady", that's creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:09 PM

Getting offended by use of "female" as a noun is hysterical, yes. No male is offended by the word "male" like women are by the word "female". (See, I just used women and males!) Also, I shouldn't have to spell this out to you, but it's also a matter of flow and clarity (which are extremely important), not just "more syllables". Here's a mini English lesson (ironic since you're a teacher): Consider the perfectly well-formed sentence: "Group A consists of five females and three males, each of whom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:02 PM

I'm not going to sacrifice concision, flow, and precision for the sake of appeasing hysterical feminists. Why should I say "women and girls" when "female" is perfectly fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:38 AM

There are more rich men than rich women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:05 AM

Q4W: For the women who get triggered by the word "female", what single word do you suggest I use that includes both women and girls? For a concrete example, let's say there's a group of females with ages ranging from 5-80, and I want a term to refer to an arbitrary member of the group. I don't want to call a 5 year old girl a "woman"/"lady" or an 80 year old grandma a "girl". "Women/girl" is not concise, and nobody uses "gal". So if not "female", what term do I use?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:02 AM
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Ok I see what you mean, yes it's true a trait with many factors often becomes approximately normal via CLT (I brought up LLN because I originally thought your point was "I have lots of data so I'm confident in the population average"). But in this case, you still shouldn't be using CLT + normality to justify the existence of outliers. The "many factors => approximately normal" heuristic isn't very strong, since you assume the factors interact linearly and there aren't a few that dominate the res…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:22 AM
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It's so easy, there are countless things you can pick up on. Most obviously, simply look out for signs of suspicion and distrust towards you, as well as signs of believing in misandrist/feminist ideology. Ask her the man vs bear question- any sane, well-adjusted woman would choose man with zero hesitation, whereas one with trauma would choose bear. If she brings up the fake 1 in 4 "rape statistic", she definitely has trauma (or is a brainwashed conformist with no critical thinking ability, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:01 AM
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Feminism is the reason why I'm using my first-ever vote on Donald Trump this November.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:41 AM
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Small nitpick, but I think you meant Law of Large Numbers, not Central Limit Theorem. (I'm aware that CLT implies weak LLN because asymptotic normality implies consistency, but I don't really see the use here for asymptotic normality of a sample mean beyond its consistency.) Also, I know this is getting into "well asckshually" territory, but I think it's more accurate to simply use the concept of outliers rather than trying to invoke LLN or CLT. LLN and CLT only give you information about the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:55 AM
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Yes. Due to male hyperagency and female hypoagency, all aspects of a relationship are the man's responsibility and none are the woman's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:43 AM
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