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The top wealthiest 10% are mostly white men. And I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:20 AM
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If only the poor would take responsibility for their actions like the top wealthiest 10% of white men do, amiright?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 03:44 AM
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More accurately, from the upper to the lower class.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 03:09 AM
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So? It's not hurting me any.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:53 AM
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Yeah. It's a common way to think among men I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:12 AM
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Why? They don't hurt my feelings I just don't like them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:09 AM
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They don't want you that bad though. You are just one of a hundred women that happened to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:12 PM
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I do, it's just at a slower pace than guys go. I would preferably befriend them first and know them for a couple years before we started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:11 PM
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The stuff the guys talk about on BodyBuilding.com is just as bad as TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:25 PM
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shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 12:31 PM
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Serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 12:31 PM
1

To be safe I assume that any guy who lifts is a Redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 10:51 AM
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Femoid. None of them are attractive 0/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 10:40 AM
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I would rather be rejected for my looks than my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:21 AM
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It's a hole that oozes a thick whitish substance and blood. They just don't appeal to me. Also female bodies are too neotenous and soft. I like the way men look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:04 PM
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Vaginas gross me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 05:56 PM
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Some questions. 45% 35% of women don't want the hookup to turn into anything more. This runs counter to the common belief that all women want to date their hookups. If you hold this belief, what do you make of it? They were drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:11 PM
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Anything less than 5 is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:05 PM
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You used to be on PPD too I remember. Welcome back. Do you know where any of these people are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:42 PM
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Hey I remember you. How have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:41 PM
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I've never had casual sex. It doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:48 PM
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That might be betas acting betas. I'm worried about guys that pretend to like a girl or want a relationship when all they really want is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 07:27 PM
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Most guys pretend to be beta. They act like they are really into you and are nice and supplicating in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 06:53 PM
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I think that's fine. The guys that pretend to beta are the ones women need to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 04:30 PM
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It depends on how they are tricking the woman. Are they pretending to be alpha or beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 07:13 AM
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I still talk to him occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:52 PM
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Yeah I'm happy he is less obsessed. His therapist probably also told him to never talk to me again. =(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:37 PM
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I would also like to know if the following people are still around. HappilySingleWoman bromance946 UrbanSledge Xemnas81 If you are out there anywhere, I miss you!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 11:30 AM
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I was a lot happier when I was more BP so I'd pick that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:02 AM
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Yeah this is it. They are offended that subhuman scum don't want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:40 PM
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The men here will complain about these women having unreasonable standards, but none of the men here would put forth any significant effort to date these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:39 PM
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So hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:23 PM
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Would you be willing to pm me your picture? I have a feeling you aren't exactly average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:15 PM
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Which traits specifically do women view as childish and unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 10:59 AM
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Three total, but I have also been surrounded by them my whole life given my field of study.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:02 PM
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Each guy seems different to me. I have never noticed any patterns in beta male behavior besides that they tend to have similar interests like anime and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:57 PM
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Okay, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:46 PM
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He didn't marry her though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:40 PM
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Is she happy with her relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:30 PM
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Well you know her better than us. Would you say she is happy? And yeah being short is worse for a man. No doubt about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:16 PM
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It seems she is struggling in a different way. And you are successful where she is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:03 PM
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=( You aren't a failure to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:48 PM
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If you've had a 10 year long happy relationship, then I'd say you have it better than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:46 PM
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Is it such a stark choice for women? Can you be an authoritative woman while retaining your feminine beauty such that men "pull out all the stops to seduce?" At least in my field I found that being successful garnished more respect and interest from higher quality men, not less. For an example an intelligent guy who loves math would prefer to date an intelligent woman who loves math. Being a semi attractive women in a male dominated field makes you a bit of a unicorn to them. I am not sure if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:02 PM
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Why do you think we shouldn't moralize basic human nature? A salesman practicing "persuasion" is not being any more honest with his intentions than someone practicing "manipulation" for whatever other reason. I still need something more specific because there are a broad range of practices utilized by sales people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:02 PM
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Is there zero difference between manslaughter and murder except the connotations attached to each word?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:55 AM
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Those guys fall into this group. average looking horndogs tend to prefer commitment free sex And I don't agree with OP's assessment of beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 05:05 AM
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That may be true, but unless you are super attractive yourself, you aren't going to have access to monogamous relationships with super attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 04:59 AM
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Well yes, she is projecting a lot of negative characteristics on beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 04:52 AM
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The more attractive a man is, the more he will be able to implement his preferred sexual strategy which is having commitment-free sex with multiple young women. The less leverage a man has in the SMV, the more likely he is to agree to monogamy. Also, if you look like a Stacy to him, he will likely treat you better. However, you sound like you don't really like beta men, so by all means, don't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 04:38 AM
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control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously. Is that the definition you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 04:10 AM
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So 8 years total with the first guy? Nice work!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:37 AM
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We are just arguing semantics at this point because if there are no shady practices involved then I wouldn't call what you did manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:27 AM
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How long have you been a triple?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:17 AM
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Wouldn't you call that lying by omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 03:12 AM
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Interesting arrangement. And no I am not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:54 AM
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Can you be more specific? How would you convince them honestly in a way that is still manipulative?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:48 AM
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Do you have a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:15 AM
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What is an example of honest manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:43 AM
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The connotations refer to the moral value of the action and are part of the meaning. Like it wouldn't make sense to say "Sarah manipulated Stan into not killing himself". But it would make sense to say "Sarah manipulated Stan into killing himself." Persuasion is morally neutral so it can be used in both contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:41 AM
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Alt right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 06:02 PM
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How does that relate to the broader context?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 01:31 PM
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It was too broad. Can you ask me about a specific behavior? I don't know what they teach in sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 12:48 PM
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Okay what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 12:05 PM
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Persuasion by itself is a morally neutral term, but manipulation is not. For some reason a lot of Redpillers here want to combine the two word into one meaning, but why would we want to reduce the specificity of our language?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 12:03 PM
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They are when men lie and are good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 11:16 AM
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How do you keep her from getting pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 11:14 AM
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o__o
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 11:07 AM
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I didn't say that men trying to get sex was manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 11:02 AM
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No, what people dislike is the dishonesty. Saying that persuasion and manipulation are the same because both involve trying to make someone else do something is like saying that manslaughter and murder are the same because either way someone dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 10:58 AM
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Does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 10:51 AM
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They have different meanings. Manipulation has concealed intentions. Persuasion does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 10:26 AM
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Why did you leave TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 06:25 AM
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Women in his league ignored him too. So what are men supposed to do? I mean he did get some messages so it's not impossible, but it does take a significant amount of messaging and effort just to get one response. And even then they are very likely to ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 03:24 AM
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That may be true for some guys, but I was messaging women that were far below the league of my friend and still not getting any responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 03:15 AM
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They all use those dumb snapchat filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 02:35 PM
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I spent 3 days liking and messaging women indiscriminately for about 8 hours a day on two different dating sites. I didn't bother messaging any of the Stacys unless they looked at my profile. I think I must have messaged around 200 total since POF limits you to 55 messages a day. I got around 10 responses and three numbers, but they all ghosted except one that's still up in the air. It doesn't seem to matter how ugly or pretty they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 02:28 PM
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I have already done this extensively for a few incels and another guy. AMA?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:02 PM
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You got married!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 11:26 AM
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Perhaps this whole idea is just projection from men onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 02:35 AM
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Well good luck. I hope you find the guy you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 05:16 AM
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Did you find the answer to your question then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 05:09 AM
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Why does he mean mug bums in the parking lot? What did those bums do to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 04:41 AM
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Well if you can't attract men that are meeting you half way, and you aren't willing to adjust your expectations, then what else is there to do except remain single or keep looking? I don't want a game playing gigolo, a liar, a man that cares nothing for his physical health, an undercover trper, some mooching ass lothario, or garden variety roach? Again, I am bringing the same things I am asking for. I know several men that aren't like this who would love to have a girlfriend. I would invite you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 04:39 AM
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I asked a woman though. So it's a question for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 04:26 AM
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Are you able to attract men that aren't like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 04:14 AM
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If you can get that, fine. But if you can't then maybe you need to adjust your priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 03:59 AM
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He could be a trp type. He might legit be the 'Chad' narrative the dudes talk about here (even tho I find it ridiculous) and since I am divorced, 30 something with a teen child, of course such a man would see me as a pile of shit because that's their philosophy. Why do you even like this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 03:58 AM
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I think confident Stacies despise weak men but for weak spineless women these guys are pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 12:47 AM
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It is low on the list of priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:25 PM
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He is the best kind of man they can get if they are willing to please him in order to keep him. Besides, like I said, orgasming has less to do with the attractiveness of the man and more about anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:19 PM
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You talk to a lot of masculine women. On average, it's less important. Faking orgasms is very common. Why do you think women do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:12 PM
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Yes, because orgasming is not that important to women, but it is very important to men. In a woman's eyes a high value man is not one that can make her orgasm, this is just male solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:03 PM
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I just gave an example of where an immoral strategy would be better at securing a high value men. If you have a high value man but can't orgasm with him, it is better to fake it so he feels masculine and good about himself after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:55 PM
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Not all women can get the highest value man, and it has more to do with anatomy than that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:44 PM
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What about pretending to orgasm? I think men reward women who orgasm when they have sex with them, because it makes the man feel good about himself. So wouldn't it be in a woman's best interest to fake an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:37 PM
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Can you just quote it to me here? I honestly don't see what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:36 PM
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I responded to notworthmuch, not you, so I don't know what you mean by your original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:31 PM
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Men reward women who have orgasms when they have sex with them, so it would benefit women to pretend to have an orgasm even if she doesn't. Men reward women who have not had a slutty past, so it would benefit women to lie about their slutty past. Men reward women who make them feel like kings, so it would benefit women to stroke the guy's ego. Men reward women that like to have sex with them. So it would benefit women to pretend to like to have sex with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:24 PM
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Wouldn't lying about n-count be an example of a immoral behavior that would benefit women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 08:17 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 07:46 PM
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Maybe this is how religion started.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 01:39 AM
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If that ever changes HMU.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 01:38 AM
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Which got me wondering if being masculinized is just as upsetting to women, as being emasculated is to men, since a lot more time is spent talking about the latter than former. No because being masculine is generally considered superior to being feminine, so for women being called masculine is a compliment unless it's about her appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 12:35 AM
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Are you single?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 11:56 PM
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How do women find the ones that aren't like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:02 PM
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But I also love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 02:54 PM
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AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:18 AM
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You can do all those things and he will still leave you or get bored with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 08:25 AM
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I've dated men all my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:01 AM
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I love him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:00 AM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:01 AM
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No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 02:47 AM
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All guys act beta in the beginning and then when you treat them like kings they turn into alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 01:38 AM
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What if you want a beta but you don't want to mistreat your man to get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 01:18 AM
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The green pill would just be a link to the red pill so that women could find out how men really think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 12:08 AM
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Yeah that's true I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 09:16 PM
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I understand that on average, certain races might not be considered as attractive. But it's a whole fricken race of people. They can't find one single asian guy that they are attracted to? There are so many surely they can find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:24 PM
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I don't know why black women and asian men won't date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:01 PM
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I know, I just love teasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:32 AM
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You aren't nice though, you want to abuse women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 03:05 AM
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You want the lifestyle of the badboy. If want a long, happy relationship, then look at men who have been married for decades. They aren't badboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:13 AM
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What if she leaves for someone more beta? The beast was more beta than Gaston in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:53 AM
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So you can turn into a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:47 AM
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Why do you want to abuse women OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:21 AM
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What about Asian and Indian men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:56 AM
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Men make the decision to require sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 07:28 AM
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Which one favors women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:15 AM
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Sex and relationships. It requires consent from both one man and one woman. So you can't say the current state of affairs is the responsibility of one or the other, but both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 02:12 AM
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Women. It goes both ways though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:41 AM
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As much as black men are competing for the top black women, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:37 PM
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Single mothers are generally black and poor. They aren't competing for the top men, just black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:18 PM
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Well, yeah. It takes two people to have sex. Alpha men are still getting their imperative met more so than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:14 PM
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When there are more men than women, and therefore women have more power in the SMP/RMP, there are more marriages, less divorce, less casual sex, and less single mothers. When there are more women and men have more power, this reverses. So it's not female choice that is driving the current conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:57 PM
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Wouldn't you say our society is alpha-centric then? Being forced into casual sex or single motherhood doesn't seem to be in the best interests of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:51 PM
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Are black women open to dating Indian and Asian men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:39 PM
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I was looking at a different paper that considered couples from the US. Other interesting results emerge in Tables 2 and 3. In the sample of all persons, greater differences in age and education between husband and wife and reporting that one’s partner’s looks were important in the decision to marry are both significantly associated with a higher hazard of divorce. source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:09 PM
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That's not really the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:13 AM
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Yeah, but if she is in a relationship with him I'm assuming she likes the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:59 AM
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Statistically though this couple is more likely to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:56 AM
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I'd think "I'm glad he learned his lesson".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:42 AM
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I see. I think it's intimate and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:28 AM
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Lol Why is gross about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:11 AM
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I think you can condition yourself to get in the mood very quickly this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:36 AM
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Oh. Interesting. Are you able to get in the mood by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:33 AM
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Can't you get in the mood by watching him stroke his penis or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:12 AM
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Even if i'm not in the mood, I still enjoy the attention and intimacy. So it never feels like I'm doing him a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 04:50 AM
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Yeah. Well maybe I should have said "it was easy for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 06:52 AM
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Negged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 05:40 PM
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I honestly don't know. It just seems to happen naturally, I don't even go looking for them really. Maybe because I hang around nerds?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 06:55 AM
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It's easy to date without casual sex if you look for the right people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:46 PM
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They idolized women and then hated them for not living up to their expectations. That's when they go on the internet to find confirmation of their views and find TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:09 PM
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They put women on the pedestal, find out women aren't perfect, then hate women for failing to meet their unrealistic standards. Then they find TRP which confirms their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:07 PM
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I don't believe RedPillers were ever betas like they say they were. They have always hated women and that's why they stuck around TRP long enough for it to take hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 01:47 AM
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Why are you on reddit? Get off and go study! I am downvoting your comment as punishment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:27 PM
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Yep. BlackPillers want love more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:07 PM
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Yes they do actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:08 PM
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I was just wondering if you knew any personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:37 AM
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A few incels try to save bottom barrel women, sometimes it works but more often they're rejected. Is this true?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:18 AM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:48 AM
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Is it two words or one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:06 AM
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Thankfully there’s tons of writing on the Internet by women on this very subject. But there are also tons of women on the internet who have shared their positive experiences with men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:13 PM
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I am a woman on the internet and I don't think men are horrible. They have always been nice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:54 AM
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Then see a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:27 AM
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I don't think men are intentionally tricking women into having casual sex. I mean some are, but not all the time. It's more like men and women have different motivations for having casual sex. For men, casual sex is an end unto itself. For women, they are hoping that the sex leads to a relationship, and they are disappointed and hurt when it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:40 PM
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This and alcohol is the only reason women ever have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:16 PM
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The point is however that since there are only a few guys that women find sexually attractive and almost all women have the exact same tastes in men, that only very few women are going to get to marry one of these men. I don't think this is true. Here is a study on it if you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:50 AM
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What is the longest relationship you've been in OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:29 AM
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Do you think attractive men are never deadbedroomed?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:27 AM
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This strangely made me very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:14 PM
5

That is exactly the reason, but lacking options can actually make you more satisfied with what you have (there is some name for this, paradox of choice maybe) In the study I am referencing, uglier people in relationships would mentally derogate attractive alternatives. They would convince themselves that they didn't want them. Attractive people didn't do this, hence lessening their commitment to their current relationship. Have you ever seen a couple that seem like they hate eachother? Yes but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:54 PM
2

No. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:31 PM
0

that long-term relationships where physical attraction is not present will crumble and fall eventually. Interestingly enough, physically attractive people have shorter relationships and get divorced more frequently than less attractive couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:21 PM
1

The longer the better. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:27 PM
1

You can make a BB profile and ditch the women who match with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 11:29 AM
2

Why don't men make two online dating profiles? One with Chad, and one real one. Then they can like the same profiles on both accounts and eliminate all the women who matched with the Chad profile. You can also test if she is willing to have casual sex with Chad but not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 11:07 AM
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Well whatever you need to do, I am no expert on picking up women. That was just my best suggestion without getting into the particular needs of individual guys. It is possible everyone in your class was there to learn how to dance, and no one was "ugly" No this is not possible lol. Going to a dancing class because it "gets you close" to women is creepy to me, and Im sure if I took a poll, 99% of women would agree. 99% of women don't have to know why you are there. The 1% of women who take swing …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:21 AM
2

Yeah haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 04:25 AM
4

You might find this documentary interesting. It's about an African tribe where the women select the men in a sort of beauty pageant. https://youtu.be/Dm1tN3SmDWs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 04:15 AM
6

Why didn't you make the exclusive woman completely unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:03 AM
4

Not if you are in a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:01 AM
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I don't like your ideas for 2 reasons. Firstly if he goes in there with no tools, he will get the same result. What tools? Secondly, put yourself in that class, I'm sure you yourself would find it creepy if there was an unattractive guy there who was there because he was bad with women. I was in that class. No one was considered creepy. You are not going to like this answer, but tell your friends to check out TRP sidebar. They have all seen it lol. And I don't care at all if they follow TRP. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 12:50 AM
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So let me ask you this, what would you reccomend for an unattractive man? I think "be more aggressive" is not good advice. Also that is an advantage an unattractive woman has over him. "Throw yourself at enough guys and one will have sex with you eventually" I wish I knew. If you find something that works, please let me know so I can tell all my other guy friends. My go to suggestion is to join a swing dancing group because they tend to be female heavy, sensual in nature, and a close knit commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 11:19 PM
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Yes, I believe her description is true 100%. One reason rape fantasies are so popular among woman because it portrays a situation where the women is subject to intense lust from the man. Here is another article that discusses this in more detail. It talks about female desire being narcissistic in nature. What is arousing to women is being the object of intense erotic desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:32 PM
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I am still mid conversation with her, and I beleive her that she did not get much attention. But she is in the minority IMO. To only be approached twice in your life? Do you think that is mainstream?? Excluding online dating, I think this is not so uncommon for passive, unattractive women. Most of the unattractive women can get male attention at least for sex, but they have to be somewhat aggressive. I understand this, and there is no real way for you to know. I can give you 2 reccomendations. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:07 PM
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That is the part I am arguing against. And also this... It may be messed up, but we cannot change those bioligical drives. I would like a "high value guy" to mean a man who is loyal, caring, listens, willing to sacrifice etc. because then I would be swimming in prospects. All men say this about themselves. All men tell us this. I think you believe this about yourself, but you saying it means nothing to women. We have all dated guys who say this exact same thing, and they still leave us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:46 PM
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You don't know anything about her, and you are completely wrong. How can her standards be too high if she agreed to date every guy that seriously pursued her, yet they dumped her? I understand that frustration but think your main problem is too high standards. There are men who would cherish you that have been a lone for a long time. This is what all men say. How are we able to tell which ones will cherish us and which won't? Every guy here is deluded about the female experience. Ironically, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:13 PM
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Pinkgoldrose, there are some very good hiking spots where I live and I would love to have a hiking buddy. If worse comes to worse you can come stay with me for awhile. I will take you to that cool museum that I told you about with all the crazy slides.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:55 PM
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I think they just like saying that to piss Rpillers off honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:07 PM
2

Saying something is superior or not cannot be true or false since it is a value statement. It's just his opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 09:02 PM
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You are thinking about it from a man's perspective, not a woman's. For women, men improve as we age. Men get more mature, intelligent, better looking, and kinder. Most younger guys just want to drink and party and have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:07 PM
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Interesting, since a lot of women who marry at late 20s/early 30s are marrying leftover men, men who have been picked over, low value men, and unattractive men. They're marrying these men just to say they got someone to marry them, not because of mutual affinity or affection or sexual attraction. This is not true. For women, the men around you get higher quality as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:58 PM
2

Yeah when my boyfriend is mad at me he punishes me by not allowing me to cook for him. If he starts cleaning then I know I am in big trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:33 AM
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If he got accused of rape then it probably means he has drunk casual sex so I wouldn't date him for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:33 AM
1

Why didn't you guys have a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:10 AM
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Yes, but I am also freeing him to pursue it elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:59 PM
2

Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:13 PM
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I wouldn't deny a guy anal because if he asked I would just break up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:06 PM
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No she isn't because she can (and will) leave as soon as someone more attractive comes along. If that was the case, all relationships would last a couple months at most. 99% of these relationships, the man pays for sexual access to the woman. Since in a transaction, you have to trade something with value to get something of value, this means that the man's sexuality generally has no value (If it did, he wouldn't have to pay to fuck her) and the woman's does. Now, if a woman is willing to fuck yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:13 AM
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Besides that, TRP and PUA are so popular because men really want to become more attractive to women. OP acts like men are just too lazy to make the effort but this is hardly the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:10 AM
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Yep. Wearing makeup, shaving our legs, and fixing our hair every day is easy compared to leg lengthening surgery or becoming a famous musician.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:56 AM
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Yeah, agreed. And getting rich isn't easy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:39 AM
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That doesn't make sense. If she is in a relationship with you, she is giving up opportunities to be with a more attractive man. She is okay with this trade, because she finds you attractive enough. If she is just having casual sex with you, then she gives up nothing. She pays more for a relationship, therefore it is more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:17 AM
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Ah okay. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:56 AM
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Maybe we are socially conditioned to be this way, but even if that's true it doesn't change anything. Also, women do select men who are taller and have more masculine features. However, this is harder to change than it is for a woman to get a boob job or lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:51 AM
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They don't put in as much effort into their appearance because women are not as aroused by visual stimulus as are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:43 AM
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To get casual sex yes. But men like this generally don't have long, happy, healthy relationships. Men hold this as a standard for male attractiveness only because they want casual sex. Otherwise the would idolize men who are happy and in long lasting marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:38 AM
1

Where do women like to go that has no men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:37 PM
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They don't say this in public, but they do online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 03:02 AM
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Well, online men complain that women use them for companionship. If men want companionship with women just as badly, then how are they being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 03:01 AM
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I thought this was just a given. Men don't seem to like being around women very much. I think they would be happier if they could just fuck us and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 02:57 AM
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Me either. There is usually one guy that shows interest every 2-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 02:08 AM
1

Didn't you used to be red?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 01:22 AM
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Women seem to like male company more so than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:48 AM
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I can hook you up with a guy. He's a tall, kind, and a hard worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 09:15 PM
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I think when women say mature, they usually mean willing to commit. You are an exception, but most men your age want to play the field a little before settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:48 PM
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Well since we are hypothetically giving advice to women in this thread, and women can control their actions, then we can recommend that they focus on their career while looking for a partner and also approach any man that looks interesting in their workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:47 PM
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They are more mature usually, aren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:46 PM
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Thirded. I love crows feet around the eyes and speckled grey hair. College kids are starting to look like kids to me. Cute, but not really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:38 PM
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Not because of his looks then? It's just because he's nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:55 PM
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How does this contribute to her happiness knowing she settled for some substandard man for the sake of having a family? She shouldn't think this. Then she won't be unhappy about it. Nonsense. She can start a new career tomorrow, she can't go back in time and have (low risk pregnancy) kids in the 35-40 range we're discussing. Assuming you graduate around the age of 21-22, you can get your career started way before 35-40. If you have kids you won't realistically have the time and energy to start a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:15 PM
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For women the sex isn't good unless the guy gets off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:02 PM
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For men evaluating women it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:00 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:58 PM
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From most women's saying, ugly women would rather stay alone until they find an attractive husband who wants exclusivity. Attractive relative to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:56 PM
1

Well then women can approach the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:25 PM
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Single moms are sluts? men are called "player" just for having multiple partners as a shaming device regardless of whether he actually is "playing" anyone. Same with women being called sluts. But actual sluts don't hurt anyone. Actual players do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:15 PM
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I don't think men worry about this stuff too much outside of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:06 PM
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I could not share unless I didn't like the guy and wasn't expected to have sex with him. Paul Giamatti isn't ugly, just average, so I'd pick him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:05 PM
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Players actually hurt people. Sluts don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:12 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:57 AM
2

They aren't on PPD. You can just hang out here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:07 AM
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Save your sanity and ignore them. That's what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:03 AM
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Yeah I could be wrong. I'll pay attention to the responses here and see if I can find any women complaining about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:02 AM
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Well you can tell them all this stuff when they complain to you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:55 AM
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Seems a fair enough exchange to me. Both people got what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:54 AM
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Why are you reading it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:53 AM
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She was also misleading him by acting like she loved him in order to keep his attention and friendship (at least in his fantasy).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:45 AM
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You wouldn't hear them whining if you didn't read Huffington Post articles. I have never heard this complaint anywhere outside this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:39 AM
2

What did the guy do wrong in that comic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:37 AM
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Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:21 AM
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If it's their standards that are holding them back, then ultimately it is their choice to be single. And why should this be a problem? It is still a better situation than not having any choice at all, which is the other option presented in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:21 AM
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The only career women who are having problems are the career women with astronomical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:15 AM
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Women automatically view male sexuality as predatory, and they are under constant fear that men are using them for sex, similar to how men are afraid that women are using them for things other than sex. The way to get around this is to just change your language. Instead of saying "I made friends with her hoping for sex" say, "I befriended her to determine if a relationship was a viable possibility". Women will object to the first and not to the second, even though in real life they usually equat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:14 AM
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I don't like the idea. If he doesn't want to do it then I'm not going to push the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:38 AM
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That is not what usually happens though. Men will meet women in their social circle or at their job. You are more likely to be included in social events and be in a person's social circle if you work with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:08 AM
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Even if they don't care, they are more likely to date the women they encounter on a daily basis than a woman in a completely different field. Also, they do care, at least in my field.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:53 AM
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No because if the marriage fails (which is not unlikely) then the woman is left with nothing. She can always lower her standards and find a guy but she can't go back in time and get a career. Also, having a good job is the best way for women to be exposed to high quality men with similar interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:35 AM
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I should try to force him to do stuff he doesn't want to do? That doesn't sound right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:46 AM
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Those usually aren't the type of things that women have trouble expressing directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:13 AM
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If you think about it, my ex and I were in the exact same situation. He probably was wondering why I didn't love him enough to do X activity in bed when I knew it was important to him. He didn't want to accept this idea, so he kept pushing hoping that I would change my mind. Direct communication didn't work for him either. When he asked I would say 'no, I don't want to do that'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:10 AM
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Well for another example, another ex used to do things in bed that I did not like. I told him "I do not like that" many times but he would try to do it anyways. I hated him for this because it seemed to me that he didn't respect my desires at all. If I had never expressed my desire, then I could justify it in my head that he didn't know. Then I wouldn't hate him, because if I hadn't asked him to stop, then he would still be innocent in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:26 PM
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Yes if the guy doesn't care then direct communication can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:04 PM
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It doesn't matter the size of the request. If he didn't want to do it before, then he won't want to do it after you ask him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 10:57 PM
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For an example, my ex had OCD and wouldn't want to touch me if I had been in a 'dirty' place. I tried to keep track of his rules, but sometimes I would break one of his rules and not even notice it. Then he wouldn't want to touch me until I took a shower and washed my clothes. If I moved in to hug him, he would back away. I would get worried that maybe it wasn't the OCD and he just didn't like me anymore. I would get upset but try to hide it because I knew I was just being insecure. Then one day…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 10:09 PM
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I have never had any luck with stating exactly what I want to men. If the guy wanted to do it then he would have done it on his own. If I ask directly he'll just say no or not do it, and then I will feel bad and resent him a little. So it's better not to ask and just keep all my wants to myself. Men are not used to deferring to women and they won't do it in most cases. If you try they will think you are a bitch, masculine, or an annoying nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:01 PM
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I feel neutral about it. Not disgusted nor aroused. One possible ramification of it is that an increasing number of previously straight women will start lesbian relationships instead of shacking up with beta providers. Women are already shacking up with beta providers so I doubt this would happen. It is more likely to happen if something like TRP becomes widespread and all men only want to spin plates. I would rather be with a woman than share a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 06:39 PM
2

What gay men do is no threat to me. That's why it feels different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:35 PM
1

Hehe :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:33 PM
1

Damn stuck up babies. They needed to be taken down a peg.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 05:48 AM
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Both are too young for me but Francisco is hands down more attractive. The other guy is just meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:36 AM
1

Are you incel no more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:12 AM
3

My standards increased as I got older as I lost some of my naivety and blind trust in people. Physically I now prefer older looking men (35+). Men in their twenties are starting to look like babies to me. I care about money even less than I did when I was younger because now I don't have my parents to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:03 AM
1

The prostitute wouldn't be as bad because I'd know there was no emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:57 PM
3

They are seeking money. Sex is the means to this end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:21 AM
2

That isn't common. When most women have casual sex it's with a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:42 AM
3

With ONS's the woman is usually drunk or high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:50 AM
0

No. Women are hoping it turns into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:37 AM
1

Was that sarcasm? I don't know any women who seek out meaningless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:33 AM
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Why? Probably some biological reaction that protects me from getting emotionally involved with a man that will likely cheat or grow bored with me easily. I don't understand nor like the male desire to have meaningless sex with lots of women. I want to avoid men like this as much as I can. slut shammerrrR. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 03:16 AM
2

You could also play the numbers game and increase the chances of getting lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:59 AM
8

It depends on the guy really. Recently one of my friends confessed to me that he had seen a prostitute before, and I did not find it disgusting. I knew that he was struggling to achieve success with women. He took the initiative to try something new and get over his fears. This was admirable to me. His situation was understandable, and it was easy to empathize with him. However, a different friend also told me that he had seen a prostitute, but this time the news was revolting. My friend was not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:55 AM
2

What if the 10/10 woman was annoying or a bitch to you? What if you didn't ever get that close? Would you still think sex was better with her than a 6/10 who you loved more than anything? This is crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:31 AM
1

No he will just be hugging me trying to comfort me and then he will get a boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:25 PM
7

Men here on PPD have told me that after they sleep with a hot women, less hot women will not longer satisfy them sexually. To me this is insanity but I guess it comes from men being more visually aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:59 PM
2

It is such a silly exchange of emotions that I can't help but laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:08 AM
1

For me yeah haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:19 AM
1

And no, crying does not make me horny. The fuck kind of dude gets off on crying. It's not sadistic, it just happens naturally to some guys when they are trying to cheer up their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:26 AM
2

She doesn't have to talk to every guy, just the one she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 10:30 PM
2

Consequently, there is a theory that says men get horny when a female is crying around them. This happens to my boyfriend. It makes him feel so bad but I think it's the best possible response he could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 10:25 PM
3

Yeah maybe we should just give up on the whole being special thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 10:22 PM
1

Yeah this is the main problem I think. Women will assume they are not interested even though they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 03:19 PM
3

Then I don't mind being owned as long as I am the only comic in his collection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:06 AM
8

They want to set a precedent in the relationship where they have all the power and he takes all the emotional risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:03 AM
1

Hehe :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:02 AM
1

What are the negatives and positives of being treated like an object?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 06:57 AM
1

Probably more so. I also have sperg episodes so we'd have that in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 06:56 AM
2

I would at least wait and make sure he is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 06:37 AM
2

You can sit down and wait for him to stop screaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:52 AM
3

Yeah not everyone is going to be into you obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:32 AM
2

Yeah I know but I'm trying to convince them not to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:02 AM
2

That's manageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:33 AM
12

It's not that hard. I have social anxiety and I can do it. You are approaching a shy guy. What's the worst he's gonna do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 03:53 AM
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Those women have it backwards. If a guy approaches you it's only because he's approached 100 other women prior to you and they all turned him down. It's not because you are special. If you want a guy who thinks your special find a guy that no other women wants and approach him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 03:31 AM
1

Any tips for keeping your relationship healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:53 PM
1

From what I have read, agreeableness does not increase mating success because it makes the agreeable person likely to defer to competition and lack the assertiveness to pursue what they want. Prosocial behavior such as helping others increases mating success. Also note that dark triad traits also make women more attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:29 PM
5

Prosocial behavior actually is positively correlated with mating success though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:37 PM
1

Yeah this happened to me so I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:58 AM
1

I don't always agree with her but she has a unique perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 11:51 PM
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No she isn't and I appreciate her comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:51 PM
1

You have yet to show me an example where they are calling the guy disgusting and only after sex. They are telling the guy to go for it because in the OP he mentioned that he was open to the idea. So why shouldn't he go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:57 PM
1

Here is the top comment. You need to be honest with her about your lack of feelings. You would be a bad friend by leading her on. If she needs distance to get over her feelings for you, then she'll do what's best for herself and you should take that as an opportunity to focus on other friendships. They are telling him to stop leading her on because he is actually leading her according to the OP. He is cuddling with her, playing with her hair, and he even took a freaking shower with her for God's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:55 PM
1

Haha I will keep looking for a little bit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:42 PM
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Everyone knows that's a bad idea. I doubt you will find such a thread. It's better for both parties to go not contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:38 PM
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This is the top comment. You rejected him romantically, which is 100% fine, but you need to give him his space. He is undoubtably hurting and may need to pull way back or end your friendship for his emotional well being. Seems okay to me. What is your complaint with this advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:32 PM
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I know its weird. I guess women get friendzoned more than guys? Anyway I found two more examples and edited them to my comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:25 PM
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Here's another similar one. Strangely it seems like women fall in love with their friends more than the reverse. I'm finding lot's of these. I'll keep adding more to this comment as I find them. Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:12 PM
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It's hard to find any post with the specific situation you are looking for. Do you have an example of a thread that shows the double standard you are talking about in the OP? In the mean time, I'll see if I can find more examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:04 PM
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You didn't actual show an example of the double standard you are talking about. Here. I found a thread with the exact same advice to the woman. The top comment is telling her to be upfront with him to protect his feelings. https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/4c70si/my_friend_20m_found_out_i_19f_am_recently_single/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:42 PM
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Yeah. It's strange to me. I wonder what their relationships are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:14 PM
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For instance I could tell my boyfriend was unhappy and I asked him what was wrong. He told me that I have been playing video games late at night and so I haven't been going to sleep at the same time as him. He likes me to lay next to him and gently scratch his back. So now I do that until he falls asleep. Then I get up and return to my game. He also likes showing me videos of bulldogs on skateboards. I have to come over and give the video my full attention and make sure I say 'aww' and 'so cute!…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:03 PM
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If you stop doing the other relationship parts men will complain and get cranky. Why would this happen if they really didn't want this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:48 PM
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I don't know about that. The #Metoo thing seems bigger than any complaint I've seen against Nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:13 AM
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If you love someone, don't you enjoy doing things for them? I secretly like it when my boyfriend gets sick because I love babying him so much. (Of course I don't like him to feel bad though)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:08 AM
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I don't know about all, but I would guess that the majority of women are this way based on how men advertise themselves. Men usually downplay how much they are interested in casual sex because they know women try to avoid being just a quick fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 07:26 AM
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You are interpreting the Nice guy's intentions to be as malicious as possible. A more charitable (and true imo) interpretation is that the guy is following a normal and natural social norm where you befriend and get to know someone in order to see if there is any potential for a romantic relationship. I cannot believe that the women here can say with a straight face that they have never done this. We basically invented this strategy. Your analogy is also wrong because the guy genuinely wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 07:15 AM
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What are the women you date asking you to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:55 AM
5

I shame frat boys all the time. Just follow me if you wanna see some frat boy shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:36 AM
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Men want more than sex and not being a nag. They also want you to watch skateboarding videos with them and go to the grocery store to pick up the brand of water that they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:17 AM
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She wants something else from him but is afraid that giving him a hard no will turn him off completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 07:09 PM
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If the person is a stranger then having sex with them will be worse than masturbating or doing nothing and just being horny. If they are a friend it will still be worse, but at least you open the doors for later, better sex. If you are in a relationship with someone you like, then the sex is better. If you are in a relationship with someone you don't like, the sex is worse than masturbating and even worse than doing nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 07:01 PM
1

Would you have a problem with the male equivalents?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 06:48 PM
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Your perspective sounds reasonable although I have never seen it myself. The bit that’s winds us men up and fuels things like trp is feeling like we get the worse deal here. At least nice girls achieve intimate connection with bad boys however fleeting. We rarely get a kiss from our infatuation let alone what our body aches for. To women though it's not the case. For men, getting sex is a plus 1 despite the circumstances. For women, having sex without serious commitment is a minus 1. So men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:47 PM
1

What kind of women are they approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:35 PM
1

Thanks boo you're the only one who gets me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 07:30 AM
1

Are those virgin guys approaching women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 11:24 PM
1

Did you look at my examples? Do you agree that TRP would have called these cases AF/BetaComfort which is defined as a female specific behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:29 PM
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I am not talking about the BP subreddit. I am talking about mainstream advice. RP absolutely advises men that women find desperation to be unattractive. Yes, that is not the part that is incorrect. The part that this is incorrect is that this is a particular feature of female sexuality when it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:20 PM
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Men choose by initiating with certain women and not others. They also choose by investing more energy into certain women and not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:07 PM
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Most of the guys here have an exaggerated view of what being a woman is like. I have had 2 real boyfriends plus one who wouldn't fuck me. I'm 33 and a woman. I've also not had casual sex. I dated the first guy that showed interest in me. Never did I have a group of men to select from. It was always just one man showing interest in me at a time, and if I was single I'd date him. I feel bad for the guys who can't get anyone at all, but I don't feel bad for the guys who just want to be Chad and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 09:07 PM
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"Women don't like it when you act desperate" is BP advice. It's also true. RP would say that this is a particular feature of female sexuality, which is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:35 PM
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I feel like no one here actually read and understood my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:33 PM
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Here is another example of a man on /r/relationships that is only with a woman for beta-comfort. I challenge you to just read /r/relationships for a week and only focus on the men talking. You will see what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:11 PM
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We are talking about different things. You are talking about TRP's usefulness. I am talking about whether or not it is true. You say you don't like this argument, but what else is there to argue about here on PPD? As a woman, I can't tell a bunch of men that TRP won't work for them. They can try it themselves and see. The only thing I can address is the truth of their theories and I think it's interesting that none of the men here seem remotely interested in this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:56 PM
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That wasn't my argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 04:40 AM
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Where was I dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:47 AM
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How would you explain the behavior of the examples I listed? And perhaps you don't have as much exposure to male behavior in relationships because you don't date men and probably don't have as many female friends who talk to you about this stuff, nor do you pay much attention to it when you do encounter it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:12 AM
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That's a given. Why don't you respond to my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:11 AM
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These are not isolated incidents. You just don't pay attention to male behavior since you aren't trying to fuck men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:35 PM
2

They do many of the exact same things. Look at the examples in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:14 PM
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I intentionally posted a thread questioning the accuracy of RP theories on a debate subreddit meant to discuss the accuracy of RP theories, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:05 PM
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I know what RP is, but here we are on PPD. The purpose of this sub is to debate topics related to TRP. They already understand how men think, since they are men. It’s the differences in women’s tendencies that confuse them. Why would it confuse them if men do the same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:58 PM
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No it's not. Every RPiller would have read that story and said AF/BB unless they knew the gender of the people in the stories. You are making an assumption of his/her reasoning based on their gender, but then using the same stories in order to prove the same theory you assumed. It's circular and unfalsifiable. Evolutionary psychology is something different. They for the most part use the scientific method and check for gender similarities and differences. TRP does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:35 PM
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If your theory cannot eliminate false positives based on observations of differences in behavior, then your theory is unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:16 PM
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Look at the first example in my OP. Do you agree that if that had been written by a woman that it would be considered a clear example of alpha fucks/ beta-comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 10:04 PM
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Yes. But if given two different but equally valid explanations, it is better to pick the one that explains a broader range of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:56 PM
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Yes, of course. But Rpillers don't usually check to see if men exhibit the same behavior before they explain a woman's behavior as a consequence of her gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:37 PM
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That is the whole foundation of TRP. Their initial premise is that men and women are different, which they are. However, RP does not look at male behavior to see what parts overlap female behavior, and what parts don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:32 PM
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Let me try to better explain my argument through an analogy. Say you have a golden retriever that pees on the floor. You join a dog group that tells you how to fix the issue and it works. However, the reason they give for your dog's behavior is that this is something particular to his specific breed. But you know this is false, because you have a chihuahua that does the exact same thing. So a better theory would be that peeing on the floor is something dogs do, not something golden retrievers do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:26 PM
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"My last relationship was extremely toxic with my then boyfriend exhibiting extreme disrespect and emotional abuse. He used to make me feel like shit about myself by withholding affection and attention, sometimes purposefully ignoring me. This went on for years until I was completely broken inside. One time he spend an entire week hyping up this romantic dinner date he had planned for me. I was so excited and happy just to be spending time with him, I didn't even care about the dinner or the foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:15 PM
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Correct lol. I can tell if it's a woman or not by how good she makes herself look in her story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:47 PM
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I am not asking whether or not RP is useful to men. I am making a statement about it's accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:24 PM
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No, it is wrong because they are calling it a categorical difference instead of a statistical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:12 PM
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I am talking about the accuracy of RP theories on female nature, not whether any of this is useful to men or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:59 PM
1

Never said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:28 PM
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It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:09 PM
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People absolutely believe that the Bible was written by God himself. Humans wrote the actual words down, but God was telling them what to say. Christians believe that the Bible is the literal word of God.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:02 PM
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Men determine our worth. If men only want us for sex, then that is our only worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:00 PM
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Why aren't you winning? You have the secret to getting women to have sex with you. Isn't that what you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:27 AM
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By coping I mean it makes me feel better in the short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:40 AM
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I didn't say he needs to do the same thing over and over again. But he is making the assumption that her motivations are based on her gender rather than pulling from a more general principle of human nature. You do realize that guys do the same thing that the girl did in his story correct? And if this is so, how accurate can his analysis be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:52 AM
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I'll point it out when you bring it up again, but the general idea that you usually express is that the non sexual parts of the relationship have negative value to you. You see the relationship as payment for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:34 AM
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I don't know how to fix the monster in my head so this is how I cope. I don't care what RPillers do. You do your thing and I'll do mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:31 AM
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Well if you have figured out what women are attracted to, then it looks like your problems have been solved. I don't know what else you want from me or other women. You can go out in life and win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:20 AM
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I was speaking for the BPillers who say that. I don't believe it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:56 AM
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What do we do with the men for whom there are no women several notches below them? Those are the true incels. For them, their only options are to either improve themselves or play the number game and hope they get lucky. Why are we settling for less as men in order to protect women's feelings, interests, and life imperatives? You are not. I am not talking about AFCs here. I'm talking about incels. These are men who believe that no women on this planet will ever love them. I am telling them how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:41 PM
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I don't know. I am messed up but who knows what the reason is. The religion stuff affected me the most and strongly altered the course of my life. I got into science because science views all walking meat bags equally. I only dated men who would be financially dependent on me. TRP bothers me the most right now. It's probably just a substitute for the God stuff though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:12 PM
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I wasn't thinking of Chads. I was thinking about RPIllers. They are the ones who say this stuff about what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:46 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:45 PM
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Would you get offended if someone assumed you were from the East Coast because of some vernacular you used? Probably not. Because there is nothing inherently inferior about being from the East Coast.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:26 PM
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I don't understand Lewis. You argue here all the time that women are only good for sex. And now you are saying it's not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:19 PM
2

Are there any women only subs that allow for a diverse range of viewpoints?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:18 PM
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A lot of women think that if the guy doesn't marry you then he doesn't really love you that much and is waiting around in case a better alternative shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:09 PM
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That doesn't seem typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:01 AM
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Saying a man looks like a woman is also an insult. But saying a woman acts like a man or has the personality of a man is a compliment. Saying a man acts like a woman or has the personality of a woman is an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:38 AM
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Yeah, I agree. I was just explaining what feminists want though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:26 AM
2

Do you ever miss being religious? I sometimes miss being able to talk to God and believe he is actually there listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:08 AM
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Yes, I thought that was obvious. My parents pulled me out of public school when I was young so they could give me a Christian, non-liberal education at home. All these are examples from my own life. You don't even have to go outside of PPD. I've had guys on here call me worthless probably dozens of times. Here's one example lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7q3ywb/why_do_womenblue_pillers_even_visit_the_red_pill/dsmi4lo/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:22 AM
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Did you read my whole list? If you are raised in a household believing that the Bible is the one true word of God, then of course you will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:15 AM
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Men have given their lives to protect their women. They kill them even more often. Men also fall in love with their friends and feel protective over their partners. Yes. So do women. Only Chad gets to pump and dump women who willingly sleep with him. Is TRP filled entirely with Chads? Every guy would love a one night stand because sex is awesome. But according to guys, sex with the same women for the rest of their lives is not awesome. They feel like they are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:42 AM
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Yes because women are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:33 AM
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Only when in reference to her appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:31 AM
1

It seems like a lot of guys reject these women before the women have a chance to reject them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:21 AM
5

Yeah some of us do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:16 AM
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Practical: Women who are a couple notches below them in social class and possibly looks as well. Warm fuzzy: Take yourself as an example. You act like you have no value at all. Your name is notworthmuch for goodness' sake. But nothing could be further from the truth. I knew you were a special guy when you first started posting here. Other women noticed it too and we all love you. When we talk about you amongst ourselves we say stuff like "notworthmuch is so handsome and funny!" You are so wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:14 AM
1

Do you want the practical answer or the warm fuzzy one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:56 PM
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On Reddit but you will have to act nerdier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:35 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:12 PM
2

I don't find these men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:07 PM
2

By talking to the men who call themselves unlovable and finding out that they are very lovable after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:01 PM
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If it is in reference to her looks, then yes it's an insult. But if it's in reference to her aptitude or personality, then it's a compliment. For men, calling them a woman in any way shape or form is an insult. I have also heard men complimented as being one of the girls. Men are usually offended by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:59 PM
3

Well we read TRP so we can spot you in the wild. Any guy who has a confident demeanor, DGAF attitude, and lifts is suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:41 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:31 PM
3

I want to create more of them. I want it to become popular enough that all women realize what men think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:29 PM
3

Yes, now I do. I am open to being proven wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:28 PM
6

Yes, that's true. Women generally don't want to sleep with lots of men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:18 PM
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Yeah, being called one of the guys means you are a cool chick and it's a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:16 PM
3

Most men want to fuck around in their youth and then get a LTR later on after they have sower their wild oats. Look at TRP. They aren't Chad, but they still just want casual sex and plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:14 PM
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If he meets a certain standard. The majority of men have the capacity to be loved by a woman. Men idolize Chad not because he gets the affection of one woman, but because he is popular with many. This better fits their imperative and that's why they look to him as the gold standard. If one woman was enough they would idolize men who were happily married to one women into old age. and most women want a few specific men. Just about any man has the capacity to be wanted by some woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:11 PM
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It's most men. Men like yourself are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:03 PM
4

I am not claiming to be empathetic towards RPillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:01 PM
3

No that's not what I meant. I believe I am worthless. Men didn't force me to think like this. If anything my mom did. I just gave you all the reasons I believed I lacked value in comparison to men. I don't believe I am oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:57 PM
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How do the verses imply inferiority? They create a clear hierarchy with God at the top and women at the bottom. Women are told by God that their role on earth is to be servants to men. How would you feel if you were told that your purpose on earth was to serve women? Not by another human, but by your divine creator. What I or Red Pillers say is irrelevant. As we are often reminded, Red Pill is just a bunch of insignificant misogynists. If we are that, who cares what we say, right? Well you read …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:43 PM
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Several verses in the Bible which was the infallible word of God mention female inferiority. Most notably a verse in the New Testament that while man was meant to serve God, woman was meant to serve man. We aren't even good enough to serve God directly. The majority of religions speak to the inferiority of women. Even ancient Buddhist texts refer to women as being the disease that destroys the crops. All of the greatly revered historical figures were men. In school, a of couple token women are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:46 PM
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That's not your fault then. Plenty of relationships do begin with friendship and I disagree with the women who get annoyed when they find out their guy friends had feelings for them. The part where you 'failed' to treat women equally was not in your behavior but your post hoc analysis. Instead of empathizing with her on a human level and thinking something like "Ah well sometimes when I don't get what I want I unfairly blame the other person too" you went to "women like to be treated inferior". …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:44 PM
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Men don't love women, they just want to fuck the hot young ones and send her on her way when she gets too old or annoying. Men also have inherent value to women. One man is enough for most women, but most men want multiple women. In other words, one woman has less value to a man than one man does to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:03 PM
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Yes I understand the metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:54 PM
3

How were you labeled a creep for not asking women out? What happened exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:50 PM
5

There will be trends in behavior correlated by sex, but that's not what feminists mean when they talk about gender roles. They envision a world where a man can be a stay at home dad an not be considered less of a man than a CEO. They want women to be able to speak assertively and directly without being considered a bitch. It's not about facts like 'men are stronger than women' but about cultural values. And cultural values are very arbitrary and can be changed. The problem is that they are actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:48 PM
2

I've seen plenty of tattoos before and they all look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:35 PM
2

They won't know you posted on TRP unless you tell them. So just don't tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:33 PM
1

I know, but the subject of the paintings are people and the Sistine Chapel wouldn't be as beautiful if all the painted people had Rick and Morty tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:30 PM
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Feminism doesn't want to define what a good woman is because they want to abolish gender roles entirely. They would say that it's up to each individual woman to define for herself what it means to have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:07 PM
2

If you are not RP then why do you care so much what BP thinks of RPillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:00 PM
4

Yeah, people don't like negative generalizations when it applies to them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:27 PM
1

You are not a RPiller?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:08 PM
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Women are exposed to the idea that they are inferior and have less value than men from childhood. We are told that men only want us for sex, and so we fear that is the only worth we have. We are encouraged by well meaning people that repeat the equality refrain, but there remains the suspicion that we are being placated. We wonder why these ideas have been so prevalent over time. Perhaps they are true. We are safe at least, as long as no one knows our true state of worthlessness. Then TRP and In…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:05 PM
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Well as long as they are fucking some other woman and not me, more power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:26 PM
8

Yes. But instead of avoiding us they try to fuck us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:09 PM
1

You are not human?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:50 PM
6

Maybe a lot of guys feel similar about women without being RP. I would want to avoid them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:46 PM
3

I found you sneaky Rpiller. You can't hide those gains from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:01 AM
3

Do you lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:52 AM
12

Because we talk to you guys here and so we know how horrible you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:50 AM
2

No. Why do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:27 AM
3

It was a joke, but I generally don't like any excess noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:27 AM
2

I also hate music.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:19 AM
9

Well, I was going to ask you to marry me, but now I guess we can just have casual sex in the bar bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:17 AM
3

None of the beautifully painted people in the Sistine Chapel have tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:15 AM
8

I don't know why anyone would ruin a perfectly good looking body with garbage art.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:45 AM
8

No never. And yes, the women who like tattoos are likely the same women who like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:44 AM
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Yes if you have tattoos I assume you drink, smoke, and party. I am one of the girls who would have wanted you for a boyfriend previous to your tattoos. Now I just wouldn't want anything to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 12:45 AM
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It's nicer. Insulting people isn't nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:16 PM
1

I was speaking about moral fault. What did she do wrong to the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:57 PM
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Yeah, my parents were ultra right wing. During lunch we'd all sit down as a family and listen to Dr. Laura and Rush Limbaugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:48 PM
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Yeah I was raised without feminist values and look how I turned out. (not good)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:35 PM
1

All you need to do to get a social network is befriend the people no one else likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 08:41 PM
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I meet them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:04 PM
2

Why do you think the title is misleading?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:54 PM
1

How many incels have you helped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:18 PM
2

What did she do wrong in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 06:23 AM
3

I managed to get three diabella statues standing upright in my house.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 04:39 AM
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Each incel guy I've talked to has a unique set of problems. I can't tell you what their problems are without describing the personal details of their situation. And I don't want to do this because I am afraid of people will jump on this information and use it against them or other men in similar situations without knowing the full details. And he is right about me being clueless about getting women. I absolutely am. Men definitely are more knowledgeable and experienced than me. But if other men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:05 PM
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Moreover, there isn't any proof that chaste people don't value sex. There might be more hangups in that group of people but I'm guessing that people who are more restrained about their sexual partners are going to go at it with more fervour. In my experience low n-count women tend to not care about sex as much. They aren't holding themselves back out of strength of will. They just aren't that interested in sex and so a low n count is the natural result if this. They will settle quickly into a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:50 PM
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How often does this really happen? That's not a positive case for a high N partner in any case but reverts to impugning others. I don't know. I was pulling cases that I remember reading from /r/relationships. I think it's more of a guy than a girl thing. Also some of the RP guys here are upset that they missed out on having wild fun in their youth and are forced to be a 'BB' in their early 30's. I would not want to marry someone who felt this way, would you? This is completely crap and still not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:13 PM
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Someone who lacks experience might at some point in your relationship decide that they want to experience all the debauchery they missed out on in their youth. If you have a high n count too then you can relate to each other more. Matched n count relationships last the longest. Since a chaste person doesn't make sex a priority, they are more likely to value you for reasons other than sex. Women will like this feature, but men probably won't. If you are a unicorn, your partner will appreciate you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:11 PM
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Thank you for defending me, but do not bother. He doesn't understand the individual circumstances of these men. He believes he knows how to fix their problems without ever having talked to them. He doesn't know anything about what they did or didn't try. I am sure that he is better at helping men and that he understands the male experience better than me. However, he knows nothing about the individual men in question, so his lengthy rambling is about nothing but his own imagination. /u/Whisper I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:35 PM
1

Would you be happy with a non-pretty chubby single mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:12 PM
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Yes they are rigging the game so that they lose no matter what. I don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:03 PM
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I never said I was good at getting women or that the guy was bad at it. Your assumptions are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:02 PM
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Do you think she is in a relationship with Chad right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 04:22 AM
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I was catching fish but he didn't want to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:50 AM
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We don't need men but we want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:46 AM
1

Read the rest of that sentence and you will understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:46 AM
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Men are also attracted to dark triad women. I will link the study when I get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 09:02 PM
3

What does any of that have to do with morality though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:34 PM
2

How is the virginal woman more moral than the one who has sex? Both are helping fulfill the male imperative, but the slutty woman is helping more men. The virginal woman is only helping one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:46 PM
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So she can remain forever morally righteous. Because giving other men what they want is a sin. And every man is another man to a different man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:40 PM
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Why? Isn't a slutty woman helping more men? A virginal woman is selfishly enacting her own imperative to hold out for only the best or no one at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:38 PM
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If having sex with a woman destroys her moral righteousness, then a man choosing to mate with a virginal women is behaving immorally. He should decline to sleep with her to preserve her virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:43 PM
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This makes it seem that men are in the same position as women then. They have options, but they don't find these men/women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:34 PM
1

Are the men sexually attracted to these women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:13 PM
1

Occasionally I see men say that the only women they can get are fat, old, or single moms. Are these women too far below men's threshold for attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:54 PM
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If it's true that men are attracted to a broader range of women, then would dating someone below their looksmatched be a problem for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:16 PM
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I think women are hardwired with a little bit of 'stranger danger' which causes us to see men as less attractive than they could be. I doubt very much that women would underrate the men in their lives and especially their partners. It just takes some repeated exposure in order for a woman's perception of attractiveness to normalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:14 PM
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You are saying that men do not allow themselves to have self worth, because it feels arrogant and arrogance is shameful. This is absolutely relatable and I see now that I have failed to empathize. I should have realized that placating compliments are meaningless and insulting if the recipient believes otherwise. I have felt the same when given validation over something I knew I did not deserve. And yes, I can see that strangely enough, insults and mockery can help one develop self esteem out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:09 PM
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Yes, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:09 PM
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Internal validation is matching your actions to reflect your values. That's how you build self esteem. By external validation he means validation from other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:01 PM
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Partially, but it takes some willingness from the guy as well. My best friend I haven't managed to help at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:57 PM
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Ah thanks. This was very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:48 PM
2

I have multiple agendas, but my primary concern is to help my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:41 AM
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I probably won't. I want to help guys in the future and they won't let me help them if I use them to push some agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:33 AM
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Yes, that happens and I can understand why they might not trust statements that the woman will never have to confirm with her actions. On the other hand, I see guys doing something similar to women who are actually interested in them. They say stuff like "oh she's just settling and not really sexually attracted to me". So they reject themselves even though the woman may not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:15 AM
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I'm a woman. For sex to happen the man I was helping would have to be willing, but in both cases he was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:10 AM
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Yes, there are some guys that are unattractive and will struggle as a result. However, there are other guys who do not even try because they believe so strongly that they will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:09 AM
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I have never felt that way towards any of the men I have ever dated, and none of them were Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:11 AM
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It was an online dating site so orbiting would be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:08 AM
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I'm criticized all the time and for good reason lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:28 PM
2

Yeah just trying something different helps. Are you taking medication too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:26 PM
1

Oooo I liked them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:24 PM
2

Has it been helpful to you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:15 PM
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Even with TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:06 PM
1

Perhaps, the only one of those subreddits I read is /r/relationships, and I only browse the new submissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:50 PM
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Yeah, they weren't great when they were public either. I will check out gender critical though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:45 PM
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Did you have a favorite pairing? I liked the Kakashi and Iruka pairing from Naruto.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:44 PM
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Ah cool. Has the quality improved since it became private? And who do you message to get approved?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:40 PM
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True, but I don't know if they would have fucked me or not. They didn't ignore me, they responded to me in multiple messages, and that's the first step towards being fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:39 PM
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Why did it go private?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:33 PM
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Niceguys is similar to choosybeggars or pussypassdenied. It's users laugh at unfortunate people who make small social faux pas or for justice porn. Tumblrinaction is more popular on than the feminism subreddit. Shitredditsays is one of the most hated subreddits on reddit. TheBluePill is anti-Repiller and anti-incel. justneckbeardthings I will give you. That subreddit only exists to mock unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:31 PM
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That is true in general, but on Reddit the criticism of women seems to be actually more extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:20 PM
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They appear to be anti-women to most people outside of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:13 PM
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Most women find their partners sexually attractive. If you are looking for lust at first sight, then yes, most men will not be sexually attractive to women in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:11 PM
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so why isn't he getting any? I do not know for sure. So what if he wouldn't date the fat chick? Irrelevant, and don't move the goalposts. My friend would not turn up his nose at a fat chick. He thinks he can't get anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:06 PM
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You can determine that once you get into a relationship. If she is not enthusiastic about being with you and having sex with you, then you know to next her. Right now it seems like you are preemptively rejecting yourself before the woman has a chance to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:49 PM
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We are only friends online. and not just that one fat, obnoxious "friend" who always tags along they want to get rid of Would you date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:44 PM
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Care to share your experiences? What has your life been like up until this point and when did you decide on therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:40 PM
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I will PM you his response. I don't want to share it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:35 PM
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This is not how the majority of men get girlfriends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:33 PM
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You might be right considering how our culture tends to be more anti-men, but I don't really see what you are talking about on reddit. A couple of the popular male only spaces on reddit such as TRP and mgtow seem very anti-women. There does not seem to be an equivalent subreddit of comparable size or popularity that is anti-men. Even RPW seems very pro-men. WGTOW was anti-male, but the mods shut it down apparently for this very reason? (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). On the other hand,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:31 PM
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I made two male profiles, one using a pic from an 'incel' who gave me his permission and I got several responses from the women I messaged in a short amount of time. Maybe they would not have agreed to go on a date, but they seemed happy enough to talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:10 PM
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Well according to others on this thread... Men are waking up to the fact that many women will tell a plain/ugly guy he's "attractive" just to boost his confidence or make him feel better about himself. I've seen this happen so many times, and in private, many have blatantly told me they do this. That's why you have so many plain looking guys who think they're "good looking", and naively attribute their lack of dating success to some flaw in their personality. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillD…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:51 PM
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Women want men that desire them and chase them. I know it's stupid and unfair, but that's the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:48 PM
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I tried it out for myself on POF in two different cities and my experience does not match what the men here say. I only messaged maybe 8 women total, but it gave me reasonable doubt about the validity of statements like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:46 PM
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They would know if I wasn't able to get any matches for them. And although I don't think this would happen, it's what they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:21 PM
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Because women would rather share the top 1/3 of men than have one of the others to themselves. I don't believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:19 PM
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Because it isn't true, and they know it. They aren't attractive and they don't have great personalities. No it's not. And it's not just me. Multiple people/women like them and think they are great. They don't believe any of them. Because they are. They are not. People like them and value them. They are only worthless in their own minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:18 PM
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Well in that case they are kind of asking to be unhappy If your self esteem is so low that you wouldn't be able to take rejection, then it is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:13 PM
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I think you are intelligent and kind =)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:12 PM
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Nothing So if they are getting nothing now, but they recognize that a lot of attractive guys also get nothing, then how do they conclude that they are unattractive? Well, you could try setting them up with other women They declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:04 PM
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Them not getting any female attention What kind of attention from women could you expect if you weren't Chad but still attractive enough to get a girlfriend? Why bother fixing it? It's hard to be happy when people you care about are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:59 PM
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They are so convinced that they are worthless and that no woman would want them that they don't really even try. I know some guys are actually unattractive and it would be patronizing and unhelpful to try and arbitrarily boost their self esteem. However, other guys are clearly attractive. Everyone can see it except them. Yet they feel they are either doomed to be alone for eternity, or they sell themselves short and accept poor treatment from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:38 PM
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I'm in a relationship with another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:55 PM
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That could be true in general, but online there seem to be a lot of guys that are attractive and personable but still think they are worthless and that no one will ever want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:41 PM
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It sounds like you guys have a dream relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:06 PM
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Yes and sometimes sex isn't even required to make him fall out of love. He will be infatuated with you until you return his affection and then he will lose interest. Men can build up this idealized version of you in their head and then when they see the real you it ruins the fantasy. You can see this in RP men. They used to think women were perfect angels and when they discover that we are flawed and human their love turns to contempt and even hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 04:16 PM
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Are you a man or a woman? Edit: I should have read your username.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 01:39 PM
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A weird coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 01:32 PM
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When I was younger I used to be into yaoi. I would imagine that male anime characters would be in love with each other secretly and watch the show to find 'evidence' that this was true. I would also create complex stories of their relationship in my head or read fanfic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 01:24 PM
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Those are women with man brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 09:02 PM
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Why do you think diamonds are traditional? Trends in rings have changed over the years with the oldest rings being simple gold or iron bands. It was only in the late 30's that a De Beers advertising campaign convinced the public that a diamond was the only acceptable stone for an engagement ring. Additionally, the diamond is thought to symbolize eternal love thanks to De Beers "a diamond is forever" campaign, but buying an expensive diamond ring is actually correlated with an increased risk of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:29 PM
1

What about modest and real but with no diamonds?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:02 PM
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I'll do my best!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:26 PM
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Why does a real diamond have particular significance to you? Do you think it says something about how much your fiance loves you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:25 PM
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Do you want an expensive diamond ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:08 PM
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It's the truth though, right? If you want people to change, you have to provide some motivation for them to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:04 PM
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Well you have to convince women first. And one way to do this is to make them feel morally superior to other women who demand diamonds from their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:53 PM
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If I otherwise loved him, yes. I would try to justify it in my head in order to make him out to be as blameless as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:24 PM
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No! Bad girl! No bling for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:40 PM
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Maybe we can keep spreading the idea that diamonds are unethical to remove this social burden on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:20 PM
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Nah it's to have fun and get male attention. It's an ego boost to have guys approach you even if you don't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:13 PM
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Yeah well we picked him for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 12:33 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 12:32 PM
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Do you think these were humble, meek women who discovered feminism and became confident narcissists as a result? Your view is unrealistic to me. And misogynistic RedPillers were misogynistic prior to finding RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 02:52 AM
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Those women are not the way they are as a result of feminism the same way that men don't become misogynists by reading TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 02:24 AM
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What internal contradiction would this belief resolve?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:31 PM
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Why would I have to say that? Who's making me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:19 PM
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have a false sense of confidence from feminism. These women don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:54 PM
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If that happens he can help her get off in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:15 PM
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It's a sign of him being so turned on he can't control himself anymore and who wouldn't want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:03 PM
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I think this would be a good example of when indirect communication would be ideal. If he asks directly, then yes she will probably feel pressured to perform a certain way. However, if it happens organically and he cums immediately or appears otherwise extremely aroused, she will take notice and do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:54 PM
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If guys encouraged it they would. I tried it once and my boyfriend responded very positively, so now I do this almost every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:16 PM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:06 PM
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I haven't talked to other women about this, but it seems within the realm of normal female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:54 PM
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I see that sometimes in gender neutral sitcoms, but not so much in movies marketed towards men specifically. For instance, the women in James Bond movies aren't particularly nice and are in fact often the villians. They are also very slutty at least in the way they dress and act. In the older movies they even had stripper names. In super hero movies the romantic interests are devoid of personality and can be exchanged with any other hot woman. The only thing close to what you seem to be describi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:31 PM
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I have my own anecdotes so I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:17 PM
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You are looking at only the extremes then. Most people aren't universally nice or universally mean to everyone they meet. They will be nice to people when it benefits them and mean when they can get away with it or if they don't care. Men will be very nice to women when she is attractive to him, but ignore, be mean, or use a woman who is not. One man can simultaneously be nice to a woman he desires, while ignoring a woman he is not attracted to. This is the same thing you described above and is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:27 PM
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because men as a whole don't treat good women bad and bad women good. Here is an example you mentioned of a man treating a bad woman good. Like watching a girl use an orbiter to drive her to my place so I could fuck her and then have him come pick her up after. Here is an example you mentioned of a man treating a good woman bad. Like seeing a guy I know's fone light up with texts asking to hang out from a girl he took out to a lookout, had her bring beer, blow him then called a cab to go to a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:00 PM
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Do you think a man who enters into a LTR with one woman and sticks with her is more likely to have a less negative opinion of women as a group? Also, why would they ever respect women as a whole? Do they respect men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:41 PM
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You have to make some boundaries for yourself. If you feel sarcasm is disrespectful, then don't tolerate it in a partner. I wouldn't. I also don't tolerate yelling or personal insults. Make the rules for your relationship and stick to them. Everyone gets tired occasionally and maybe she might lose her temper once in awhile. But if it's happening on a weekly basis, then you know you have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:36 PM
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Theiamsamurai doesn't ever talk about Chad or being a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:25 PM
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You don't have to guess at all. Ask yourself "am I getting the respect I want?" and "is my partner enthusiastic about having sex with me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:20 PM
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Does giving a man what he wants cause him to lose respect for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:07 PM
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Yes, but from the outside that cannot be distinguished from her (even if it's just subconscious) not really respecting and craving the man (the proverbial Beta Bux). The man just sort of has to trust her the same way a woman just has to trust a man when he says he loves her (he could be a player just lying to her to get sex). Why wouldn't men be able to tell if their partners treat them with respect and desire them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:04 PM
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If she just likes a type of guy and won't settle for less, then it's just a strong preference and not alpha widowhood or oneitis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:08 PM
1

Ah okay. Makes sense then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:02 PM
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For women it could work the opposite way too though correct? A woman who has a large amount of emotional attachment to a guy will find him more sexually appealing than other men even if he is objectively less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:02 PM
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Do you think RP's ideas on alpha widowhood could be male solipsism then? Because I don't think most women would feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:59 AM
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Do you like guys who are promiscuous and sleep with lots of women without ever wanting a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:55 AM
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Is this true for men? Once you have had sex with a very hot woman, will you never feel as strongly towards any other woman again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:45 AM
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When you say "I like Chad and beta men are ew" trpers interpret this as "I like douchebags and nice men are ew".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:43 AM
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Are you sure you are attracted to Chads then? Maybe you like attractive beta men. What would you think of a hot guy that was warm, affectionate, responsible, and humble?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:33 AM
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They at least self reported they were scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:31 AM
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There was an experiment where volunteers were asked a series of questions by an opposite sex interviewer on a scary suspension bridge and another set on a normal not scary bridge. The opposite sex interviewer set up the opportunity to go on a date with each of the volunteers unknown to the others. The researchers found that the male volunteers were more likely to pursue the interviewer on the fear inducing bridge than the normal bridge. There was no difference for the woman. In a separate experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:14 AM
1

When RPillers talk about Chad, I always envision some cocky, muscled, douchebag frat bro. Is this the type of guy you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:04 AM
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Most people get over their oneitis eventually, but people who have high romantic ideals will continue to have problems in their relationship until this is resolved. And for guys too it's often the case that their oneitis is some unobtainable woman or ex girlfriend. And yes, she can change it if she is forced to out of necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:02 AM
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What qualities does Chad have that makes you lust after him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:56 AM
1

She is more animated and moves independently to stimulate herself using your body. She also will change positions or tempo based on what suits her. Contrast this to her doing whatever you want but never taking the initiative to direct sex into a position or tempo that would maximize her stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:49 AM
2

Eek! That's too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:37 AM
2

What's good about Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:24 AM
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This has nothing to do with the man and everything to do with the woman. If the woman has highly romantic ideals, she will build up the guy to be her soulmate and the one and only solution to all her problems. If the relationship never actualizes or ends before reality forces her to see him as an imperfect being, she will keep this idealized image of him in her head. In addition there is the phenomenon of 'wanting what she can't have' that makes the subject of her desire even more appealing. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 10:22 AM
1

Men, would you rather your partner be more focused on your pleasure, or do you like it when she's more focused on enjoying herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:08 AM
2

What's ew about beta men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:01 AM
5

Yeah that's what goatismmycopilot was saying I think. Men like sexually direct but not direct in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:45 AM
1

Does reddit count as social media? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:26 PM
5

Yes. When women are accused of being naggy, it's because they have a direct communication style.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:25 PM
1

That's a good point. They don't really have any control over whether or not people will go on dates with them. So if a guy or girl is willing to go on a date but can't find anyone to agree, it would seem unfair to kick them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:21 PM
1

Women don't like being ghosted over and over again either. If you read their dating profiles, there's a lot of "I'm sick of being messaged and then ghosted, serious inquiries only please".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 10:15 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 09:02 PM
1

I think there are some people that I am not interested in generating attraction towards and in their case, no amount of friendship will change that. However, if I'm interested in someone romantically I will still want to be friends with them first before I jump into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 08:52 PM
2

You are right that it's not always about you, but when people say they are not ready for a relationship, they usually mean they just don't want one with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 08:03 PM
1

Yeah, what happened to Briffault's law?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 08:00 PM
1

You indexed women into 21 different categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:58 PM
4

I just think that when you are in love with someone, all reason flies out the window. The guy's friends will be able to tell the girl is using him. The girl's friends will be able to tell that the guy is using her. The only one who can't pick up on cues is the person in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:49 PM
1

Yeah I saw his comment after I already posted. Thanks for the shoutout btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:44 PM
1

This is an excellent idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:41 PM
1

to create a tally of users who responded to messages and went on dates that needs to be confirmed by both parties, if a user responds to messages but does not go on any dates then that person is kicked. This is a really good idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:41 PM
2

After a few months you have likely invested a lot of emotions into the person already. It won't be a pain free separation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:27 PM
2

You are smart, but a lot of women have to learn this the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:25 PM
2

I understand that most men are not out trying to trick women into having sex. However, they will naturally do the things that women reward with more sex. This includes acting in ways that makes her think that he likes her more than he really does. It's the same as the Nice guy, beta orbiter scenario. The woman isn't really thinking about tricking him. She just wants to keep the relationship going and the things that keep the relationship going are often exactly the things that make him believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:23 PM
2

I'm not referring to the case where a woman meets a man at a bar and they have drunk sex. In many relationships, there is some form of friendship prior to sex happening. People will judge where they stand with you based on your actions. If you are sending her romantic texts and acting like a boyfriend, then she will start to think that you want to be her boyfriend. It's the same with the female friend who acts flirty with her guy friend. He will eventually get the idea that she wants to turn the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:10 PM
1

I agree that it generates attraction. However, this is not what I usually hear from RPillers hence the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:53 PM
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That's not how it happens though. He will flirt and be affectionate with you and tell you that you aren't like other women. He will say he feels closer to you than he has with anyone else. He will say he just got out of a relationship and needs some time before he jumps into the next one. You patiently wait and then next week he starts fucking a hotter women within a couple days of meeting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:47 PM
1

I don't know why girls like confidence so much. To me it can get overbearing very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:42 PM
1

They advocate generating comfort but they do not say that comfort generates attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:40 PM
2

Romantic relationships often begin as friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:35 PM
5

Rp says all the time that comfort doesn't generate attraction but here you are saying it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:30 PM
6

friend zoning you without having lost or sacrificed much of anything. Imagine someone having a close relationship with you and knowing and understanding you better than anyone but they decide that you aren't good enough for a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:17 PM
2

Have you ever been friendzoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:13 PM
1

Deep relationship with someone asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:09 PM
1

twolXchromosomes? I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 04:14 AM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:25 AM
1

I would like him as he is with no confidence. I don't mind approaching guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:16 AM
2

Yeah. What of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:34 AM
1

I don't think that at all. It's strange because I think he is awesome and I can't see all the negatives that he sees in himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:26 AM
1

I didn't mean it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:12 AM
5

They aren't complaining about a guy changing his mind, although that also sucks. They are complaining that he was dishonest about his intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:49 AM
3

Does it matter? You'll never see her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:38 AM
2

That happens here and in lots of other places on the net. Where do women talk about BB here? There are entire sites dedicated to hooking rich men, not to mention many sugar baby sites. That isn't BB. That's just prostitution. They do. Also other don't know what they want. They are open to a relationship but they don't know that every time they have sex with a woman they are going to fall in love with her. (why can't you get that?) If they are wanting to get a plate or casual sex specifically the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:37 AM
1

Yes this is exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:04 AM
4

Sometimes, but this is not usually what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:01 AM
4

If a man said that and women in the same thread were saying that "Yes. It's true. We do this." And if there was an entire subreddit devoted to women discussing strategies on how to divorce rape men, then he would have a point. Why don't you think guys advertise that they want casual sex? What reason is there besides they know women won't bite unless they pretend there is a chance at a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:59 PM
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I didn't assume anything. I read it on TRP from men themselves. I heard it from my neighbors next door. I saw it happen to my female friends. Even men in this thread are saying it. Why do you think men don't put 'looking for casual sex' or 'looking for a ONS' on their dating profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:38 PM
10

Women like ONS too. I am not sure if I believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:22 PM
3

How about very sex negative when it comes to men having casual sex. Does that make me more consistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:20 PM
14

But if they already know they don't want her for a relationship, they will still have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:14 PM
0

I am very sex negative so you don't have to listen to me. This is all just my opinion. It doesn't mean it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:02 PM
1

It seems like you are trying to find a self interested motivation, which is fair since people are self interested. However in this case women wouldn't be affected by the results in the way you are guessing, because the men women give advice to would likely never approach them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:00 PM
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It's the exact same thing as when women have beta orbiters. There is the subtext that the friendship could lead to more. However, for the man there is actually a possibility that the friendship could change into something else. For the woman, she already knows for certain that it won't. She doesn't make this clear to the guy. So the friendship continues and he gets emotionally invested thinking that the closer they get, the better the chance of it turning into something more. But there never rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:59 PM
4

Me usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:49 PM
1

If I actually like a guy just how he is would it be good advice? Maybe he is really awesome and just lacks the confidence to approach for some strange reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:17 PM
9

To be fair, it seems like 75% of women use those animal snap chat filters for their pictures which almost completely obscures their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 05:51 PM
1

A lot of the guys here see the relationship itself as work, which is why they would prefer sex with no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:49 AM
2

If she likes you for you she will want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:47 AM
1

Not casual sex, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 09:24 PM
1

Men put a ton of work into getting casual sex. That is what PUA and TRP is about. You change yourself into someone you hate just so you can have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:35 PM
1

I would guess the second one. Incels often attack each other for not wanting to fuck looks matched women so I do not think the first option is likely. He probably strongly believes that everyone should only date their equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:32 PM
1

I'm a woman too and I agree with her completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:22 PM
2

There is a guy on incels.me that makes posts pictures of male models on dating websites, messages unattractive women, meets them in person, and then shames them for trying to date a guy out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:14 PM
1

How do you suggest women wise up about their own attraction? I do not understand my own attraction, but I do not know what to do to fix this. I think in order to wise women up we just have to expose them to TRP and it's contents so they know how men really feel about them. Perhaps then they will stop fucking alphas. Because we were given a need to spread seed. Few things are more important to us than that. There are some men that seem to not want variety so much. Women can help each other find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:19 PM
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That is what i would do now. But a lot of women believe that if a guy doesn't approach them, he's not interested. Also some of the women that chased after me had other men chasing after them. I have had female friends like this too. And also male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:11 PM
2

Yes, exactly. We want to be as interesting to you as your guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:08 PM
2

I can link you posts from the past when I defended Nice guys if you want, but I don't claim to be objective. I'm a woman and this will bias my views and interests greatly. you admitted yourself you held women to a lower set of standards before when each one does the exact same action. I make more negative assumptions about men who engage in casual sex because female players are rare. If a woman pumped and dumped a man though, I would think equally negatively about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:05 PM
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They do have intentions though. They already know they don't want to have a relationship with a woman, but they still want to fuck her. So is the woman who pretends to want sex with a guy when what she really wants is his bank account. Yes, and she is equally as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:39 PM
3

That means he doesn't like her that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:37 PM
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Ha! Just my friends, not all guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:37 PM
4

Why would some guy want to fuck a woman but not want to spend time with her and be with her outside of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:36 PM
2

It was more that these were the only guys that approached them. Perhaps some shy nerdy guy would have dated her, but since he never made a move, she didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:25 PM
6

I think you are not a hunter samurai. You actually just want to find a woman who desires you. A lot of guys aren't like you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 06:08 PM
2

Can I still dislike them both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:59 PM
3

If the relationship is also valued then why don't you want it for it's own sake in addition to sex instead of as payment for sex? Much like women view sex with their BB as payment for the relationship. And women value the relationship (the money, time, labor and resources they get), but not the person giving it. I don't believe in BB. I never got money out of my relationships. Yes I want my boyfriend to spend time with me, because I love him and enjoy his company. That's what it means to value a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:49 PM
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He doesn't want to be around her or have her involved in his life beyond just being a hole he can fuck. She could be exchanged with any other equally hot woman and it wouldn't matter to him. And I don't want men to provide anything for me. I like being around them and doing things for them because I love the men in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:25 PM
3

Incels have a reason to hate women. Redpillers are getting everything they want from women and they still disparage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:22 PM
4

I dislike those women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:21 PM
2

What if he does like her, but not enough to dedicate his entire life and future to her? This is painful unless she feels the same, and it's usually the woman who is more emotionally invested than the man in these situations. Until women wise up and stop laying them, men will continue to glorify the players. Because we were give a need to spread seed. Few things are more important to us than that. It is unattractive women who are desperate for a relationship that allow men to humiliate them in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:20 PM
3

Do men believe that the relationship is the payment they are required to give in order to receive sex or not? If so, then they don't actually value the relationship, they only value the sex. It shows only that I like fucking her but don't want a relationship with her. Because you don't actually like her. You could exchange her with an equally hot or hotter woman and it would make no difference to you. What is the alleged support for your claim that men hate women? TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:15 PM
2

Many incels believe that they should date their look matched equivalent, and they harshly judge women who attempt to date out of their league. They also judge other incels who won't date ugly women by calling them fakecels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:06 PM
5

I am afraid of how badly I want approval from men and how much I love them, and how little they seem to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:00 PM
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Not women as a whole, individual women. Fucking a woman but wanting no part of her beyond this shows how you feels about women. Men see other parts of the relationship beyond sex as payment and a burden that they have to endure in order to get into her holes. when women display unbridled, unrestrained hate for men? We hate you because you clearly hate us. I didn't feel this way until I found TRP and discovered how men felt. I also don't hate all men, just the ones that only see women as holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:57 PM
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No, but I wish guys wouldn't swipe right on women they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:52 PM
5

I'm curious, why do you think some of the guys on incel forums do stuff like this? https://incels.me/Thread-Humor-Catfish-video-of-the-new-year
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:50 PM
3

Because I think it means that men don't really love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:46 PM
5

I don't, but the fact that men want it so bad makes me think that they don't really love women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:43 PM
1

No, if a woman pumped a dumped a guy, I'd feel the same about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:36 PM
3

Probably because I want men to love me for my personality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:35 PM
5

No, because they find us annoying and don't even want to be around us except to fuck us. I like being around men even if they aren't buying me shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:24 PM
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They may not say they love her, but they will be intentionally obtuse about their feelings and intentions. And your experience is very much like the guy who makes friends with a woman with the hopes of it turning into something more. I have sympathy for these men too, because they aren't hurting anyone. The fake 'cool' girls weren't hurting anyone either. The guy who pretends to like women to have sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:00 PM
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And I don't care if it's two consenting adults, but I know from experience that's not how it usually happens. The guy pretends he likes the woman but he actually doesn't. He just fakes it to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 03:03 PM
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I wasn't until I started reading TRP and saw how men really felt about women. You don't like us at all and just see us as holes. Men wanting casual sex is the manifestation of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:57 PM
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No it has nothing to do with getting it naturally. I dislike even the Chadliest Chad having casual sex because I know it comes at the expense of other people's feelings. If it was an unattractive guy asking how to get women I would support him. It is only casual sex that I don't like because that is what men use to feel powerful over women and humiliate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:48 PM
2

I dislike /r/TheBluePill too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:44 PM
2

OP is a physically attractive man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:38 PM
3

Not everyone enjoys mocking unattractive people though. That's just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:32 PM
4

You made two threads. One was titled "Where should I go to learn how to get casual sex?" and when that was deleted by the mods you made another post titled "Where should nerds go to learn about how to get casual sex? And I don't think you are a nerd. I think you are a Chad who is trying to even the score with his Stacy girlfriend who gets a lot of male attention. You feel like you should be able to get equal amounts of attention from women. You said you want to get offers for casual sex on faceb…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:19 PM
2

Some do probably, but I doubt all of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:14 PM
3

Maybe OP can message her since he wants casual sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:09 PM
1

Okay thanks. This gives me a better idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:56 PM
2

Okay thanks. Seems like people are just telling her to use Tinder because it's assumed that many guys will want to take her up on the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:54 PM
2

No. I knew you weren't an incel because incels don't ask how to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:47 PM
2

I would be supporting him if he was incel lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:45 PM
2

He's not incel. He's Chad and has a super hot girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:38 PM
1

Can you show us a picture of what a cute nerdy girl looks like to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:36 PM
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Yeah, men asking how to have casual sex is equivalent to asking for advice on how to pump and dump women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:21 PM
2

I'm sure some woman has asked at some point in time, but I've never seen it. Edit: And sure. Link bomb me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:14 PM
4

When has any woman ever asked to get help having casual sex? I have never seen this. Can you show a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:06 PM
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I guess I don't understand why you even brought up casual sex if you are already in a relationship? Also, if you are in a relationship with a hot woman then you aren't really a nerd. You probably have above average looks and are a Chad-lite at the very least. This makes you above me SMV wise. Would you expect an ugly old woman to be sympathetic towards a Chad? That's how I view our conversation. You are at the top and asking those far below you to offer sympathy. If you were actually a nerd then…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:04 PM
1

It means there is something she doesn't like about you, otherwise she'd want you for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:37 PM
1

You can improve your hair, clothes, and level of fitness but not your bone structure or features. Many incels have looks that are not enough to pass the bare minimum threshold of attractiveness even with all these improvements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:27 PM
3

Alright, it looks like I was unfair to you. I assumed that you wanted to be able to cheat on your girlfriend or at least toy with the idea to even the score. Use TRP or do whatever you want it's none of my business anyway. I cannot support men who want casual sex because it's a threatening idea to me, but I do support your right to make yourself happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:20 PM
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I empathize with men who can't get any or limited sex, but I don't empathize with men who can get plenty of sex and are even in a relationship but specifically want to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:15 PM
2

I see it as about as big of a problem as some woman complaining she can't get Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:08 PM
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You think men who choose to sexually abstain will be respected by broader society? I respect them. And I don't think having casual sex proves anything good about you as a person. Complete assholes have casual sex. Men who lie and cheat and hunt down the drunkest woman at the club have casual sex. I see the glorification of casual sex by TRP as proof that these men do not love women nor value anything about them apart from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:05 PM
1

I haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 11:50 AM
1

I think all of RP complaints are legitimate except the one mentioned in the OP. And perhaps the rare guy who complains about his wife not having threesomes or letting him fuck other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 11:49 AM
3

Only for two days. Then I become a Chadless Tindercel again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:27 AM
3

I just want some one to recognize how much of a victim I am that I got 500 Tinder swipes and only 350 were Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:53 AM
3

He's right though. It's not an unrealistic possibility for her to change her mind after she sees what he looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:40 AM
0

I like empathizing with people, but this one is a challenge for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:57 PM
1

You aren't just some guy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:47 PM
17

The OP specifically mentioned getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:40 PM
10

The linked thread was specifically talking about wanting to be able to get casual sex written by a guy who is already in a relationship with a beautiful woman who desires him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:36 PM
1

Should have used \ Damnit change stop negging me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:30 PM
1

Well I guess you can try to pick up sober chicks to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:27 PM
4

Sometimes I go to mcds when Taco Bell isn't open. /#MeToo But yeah, there are some guys here who haven't even held hands with a girl and yet there are fuckers complaining of "only" having an n count of 10. Yeah, I can't relate to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:24 PM
1

It just means that they don't like us very much. And how are we supposed to empathize with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:54 PM
2

It impairs your ability to detect asymmetry in faces, according to this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:53 PM
4

That's what I can't relate to. If they really liked the women they sleep with, they would want a relationship and not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:50 PM
1

It makes people look more attractive than they are when sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:44 PM
3

Do Redpillers see casual sex as a means to get a relationship or a goal in itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:43 PM
4

Why? Maybe you can help me empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:40 PM
2

Do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:33 PM
1

What I meant was that their self worth is in the hands of other men, because it is other men and not women that praise them for being slayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:33 PM
-1

That doesn't happen without alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:29 PM
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I care about the guys who can't get girlfriends, or have problems in their relationships, or are not getting enough sex from their wife, or feel bad about themselves, or can't find a Taco Bell open this late. But I can't make myself care that some guy isn't getting as much casual sex as he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:13 PM
1

Ah okay. It seems like he's having a tough time and needs someone to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 09:16 PM
7

Are you the brother OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:49 PM
7

When women call men a player it is usually a negative thing not a positive thing. Men can have lots of options and not be a player. Being a player means that you are a liar and you trick women into having sex in order to stroke your ego and brag to your buddies later. There is nothing to respect about players. She was thinking that it's your choice not to be a player and this is something she likes about you. Anyway, I understand what it feels like to be insecure, but I don't think any men get o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:35 PM
1

This is the happiest day ever!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:22 PM
3

Good because I can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:19 PM
2

If I were single I would date incels, yes. They seem more relationship oriented than the average modern man. Have you had problems with dating? If so, what do you think is the cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:19 PM
2

What part is obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:03 PM
5

Why do you think that she's hinting you can't get other women easily? My boyfriend is not a player, and this is something I deeply respect about him. It says nothing about his attractiveness but rather the choices he made in life and his values. Maybe you want to be a player?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:00 PM
1

Can I be your adopted sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:38 PM
2

I don't have any. I'm just curious about your thoughts and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:36 PM
1

Aaaay! Welcome back Lewis! I missed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:25 PM
1

Why do you want casual sex so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:16 PM
23

Men's desire for casual sex with lots of women is threatening to me and I hate it so of course I'm not going to help you. It would be like asking men to help women fuck Chad and find a BB later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:05 PM
1

Why do you think women want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:32 PM
1

Why do you feel like you need to impress women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:52 PM
1

What would you do to impress a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:42 PM
1

My current theory is they like to prove to themselves that they have power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:34 PM
3

Women prefer relationships though. The glorification of casual sex seems to be more of a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:13 PM
1

So it's a power thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:46 PM
1

Do you think that men who brag about fucking girls are cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:46 PM
1

But you always dump them eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:01 PM
1

Doesn't this lower the value of that one women's attraction? Her attraction isn't enough, since he wants it from other women besides her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:44 PM
1

She is also paying with her personality, friendship, emotional support, and in many cases her resources and physical labor as well. So you are getting more of her and she is getting more of you in exchange. She wouldn't make this exchange if she didn't like you. However, she can fuck you and not like you at all. In fact she probably needs to be drunk just to fuck you given that's how most people have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:36 PM
1

Oh yeah, I missed the not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:21 PM
2

If there is a difference, I think that it only exists in the extremes. What do you think? Are women more prosocial than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:22 PM
2

What do you mean by forever after?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:11 AM
1

I don't know any female incels. If I did, I'd try to introduce them to my male incel friends so that everyone could find love and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:06 AM
2

This explanation makes the most sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:33 AM
1

Probably because I haven't been single since I was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:16 AM
3

The first guy looks the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:00 AM
12

Most men I know aren't violent and they treat me well, so it seems unfair to hate or take advantage of these men because of the actions of some other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 09:16 AM
1

Can you tell us what you've tried so far and what did and didn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:58 AM
0

Why? Isn't it better knowing that someone considers you the most important person in their life and wants to fuck you over and over again and no one else?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:57 AM
5

I think the hardest thing would be to get a girl to marry you on the spot. And having a happy LTR can't be easier since most RedPillers have given up on trying to obtain one completely. They even call it RP on hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:28 AM
7

Your dad only rented it for one day and other people get to drive it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:25 AM
2

Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:23 AM
2

Wouldn't it say more about your attractiveness if she wants to fuck you regularly rather than just one time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:16 AM
2

I haven't heard that meme in awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:01 AM
2

Well something women struggle with is not being the right person to lots of men. So they have sex and get emotionally invested hoping that it turns into something more but it never does. The more a guy is open to casual sex, the more likely this is to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:47 AM
0

Depression and low self esteem isn't hot, but if a woman is struggling with these two things herself she might be able to relate to him easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:43 AM
6

Alright, thanks for the warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:34 AM
1

No, I am sure they don't feel this way. I don't make friends with the guys that say stuff like that and not all incels are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:32 AM
4

But having a 'carefree phase' means that he didn't like me enough to commit and he only wanted the pleasure of sex. So he didn't really like me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:45 PM
3

None since I am in a relationship but if I wasn't I would date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:40 PM
1

Hehe. You could probably still pull it off though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:39 PM
1

They look good on actual samurais.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:24 PM
3

They would if those women gave them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:22 PM
1

That's a perfect trip for Christmas. I hope I can going skiing one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:54 PM
2

Deformed is probably better than ugly because she gets social bonus points for dating him. I saw the same thing happen with a guy who shot off his face as a kid. Just ugly guys have problems though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:52 PM
1

Yeah, I'd like to see some objective intj person test it out for real though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:49 PM
1

Sensitive, nerdy, scrawny, and shy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:47 PM
1

Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:40 PM
0

Bleh. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:39 PM
1

I hesitate to draw any conclusions from that experiment because my sample size was so small and I didn't try to follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:38 PM
1

At the very least you have to meet some minimum threshold of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:35 PM
1

They seem to be easier to find than the elusive incel women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:32 PM
2

Triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:31 PM
1

What things did he do that were RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:28 PM
1

What was your username as a BPIller?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:25 PM
3

Nah, there are incel guys here that even defend chubby and older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:15 PM
1

Haha of course you are :) Are you traveling for the holidays? Is that why you are sleeping in your car?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:11 PM
5

They don't deeply loath women. They are upset because no women wants them and that shit hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:06 PM
2

The first paragraph I agree is a legitimate concern. I had a similar experience in the past so I can't argue that it's not a real possibility. However, this could always be the case even with non-incel men. You can always just be a substitute until something better comes along or you could be just one step in the validation ladder. Unfortunately I know of no good way to avoid this. Incels are dangerous because they are attention starved and you don't know what they will become once they get it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:54 PM
1

Why are you sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:44 PM
3

I don't either. Do you really think all incels believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:40 PM
1

The ones I know in the wild are more volcel than anything, but I think like notoworthmuch says, the internet makes it easy to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:39 PM
1

Then it is all about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:37 PM
-1

How do can you assume that you won't be into him? I mean, maybe you won't but it's not a certainty. The shyness seems like a positive to me. Women often feel pressured and hurried to have sex, but with an incel they can take their time and go at the pace they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:36 PM
2

Are you friends with any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:34 PM
1

They aren't terrible to be around. I like talking to them and they are very nice to me. If they didn't tell me they were incel I wouldn't even know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:32 PM
3

Maybe we are seeing different people. There are a few that complain about women, but I also see a lot of guys that are sad because they are missing out on a very important part of the human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:31 PM
1

They are though. If you get to know them on a personal level, they are very kind, compassionate, funny, and personable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:20 PM
8

Why does everyone tell incels to 'work on their personality' if it really is just looks that's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:13 PM
2

This is true for a lot of men I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:03 PM
7

Do you read the posts on /r/relationships written by men about their nice girlfriends they aren't that attracted to? How is this any different than AF/BB? https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/7ikqvq/im_m25_not_100_into_my_new_girlfriend_f22_what_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/7izxf4/the_shame_and_frustration_of_a_fat_wife_after_red/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:03 PM
1

What kind of men would you consider dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 07:07 PM
1

What opinions make you feel dejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:22 PM
4

I am hoping that the instagram eyebrows go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:55 PM
1

Why was 2017 bad for you? Also, I feel the same. My PPD usage is directly correlated with how depressed I'm feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:21 PM
1

Fixed immediately!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:11 PM
2

Haha :) no one at all. You have just been especially nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:58 PM
1

This makes me so happy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:55 PM
1

So are you! You've always been so nice to me and I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:53 PM
1

Edited ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:51 PM
3

Here are some of the people I like /u/pinkgoldrose, /u/JezebeltheQueen5656, /u/Plopolok, /u/theiamsamurai, /u/BPremium, /u/AtlasBShruggin, /u/Electra_cute, /u/RockinSocksIl, /u/sublimemongrel, /u/QuestionablePresence, /u/wekacuck, /u/NalkaNalka, /u/notworthmuch20xx, /u/fiat_lux, /u/dakru, /u/Princeso_Bubblegum, /u/a_mans_perspective, /u/HopefulAboutADHD, /u/Orange_Paisley, /u/figthief, /u/i_have_a_semicolon, /u/KrispyMcSockington, /u/Nu_Guy, /u/goatismycopilot, /u/GinSmokeLies, /u/TheChemist158,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:45 PM
2

Beta men are pretty great but RPillers are fake betas. Most are alpha minded and so they have all the negative traits associated with being alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:52 PM
1

I also think you are pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:07 PM
3

Why does she have to be willing? Can't you just pick any women you want and make her fall for you by flashing your 6 pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:21 AM
1

Charm a woman on PPD as proof!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:08 AM
9

It somehow suits her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:55 AM
4

They are telling you to improve your personality to shut you up, not because they actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:46 AM
1

The disagreement is usually over which group represents the majority. From the BP perspective, RPillers are pointing to the dog with three legs and saying that this example represents how all dogs must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:44 AM
2

Christmas tree. duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:17 AM
2

I made this for her. It's a angel sea snail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:15 AM
1

=D an internet snail!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:18 AM
1

Tell her I said happy birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:12 AM
1

Can the incels be unbanned for the purge?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:02 AM
2

By self centered behavior do you mean being poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:49 AM
4

Do you think most woman would become hedonists if not for the fear of hell or God's punishment? How common do you think it is for a happy, healthy, well adjusted women to pursue a hedonistic lifestyle and then fuck up her life and become miserable as a result of having one too many cocks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 12:48 AM
9

More focused on her happiness and less focused on her being a virginal housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 12:20 AM
6

You said you'd disown her if she became a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 12:19 AM
14

I find it odd that men here want to raise their daughters in a way that benefits some strange man and not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:35 PM
1

If these men have a lot of power and options in the SMP, then why don't they pick one of the many women who want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:14 PM
2

If rich men have hundreds of women to choose from then they are the gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:06 AM
5

Most men do end up dating someone younger than themselves. Men go after young beautiful women en mass. The older men get, the bigger age difference in their choice of mates. If you want to talk of the majority of women, then there are not enough rich men to go around, so most women end up dating someone within their social class. If you want high tier men to date their equals, then join the chorus of all the old career women that are angry that these men wont date them. This is what men want jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:57 AM
6

Men must choose the women too. Especially since men do all the approaching. He could approach the 50 year old career woman who would love to date her equal, but he prefers to go after the young hot women instead. Men can stop this by chasing hard working, mature women their age instead of young hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:31 AM
8

Do you think old rich men will stop going after young beautiful women and start dating career women in their 50's?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:11 AM
1

Who should women be dating for their own good? What type of men are good for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:55 AM
1

I have a friend who is 5'11" and one that is 5'10". We all are just dating tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:59 AM
1

5'9.5"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:51 AM
3

I don't think we have it as bad as short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:31 AM
3

I have shielded myself as much as possible from ever finding out what he likes in order to remain in blissful ignorance. However, I suspect that if I were a Japanese woman he might love me more, so that is a small point of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:04 AM
5

I am tall but it does not bother me. I also have small breasts and brown hair and it doesn't bother me that some men like big breasted blonds either. However, I find it threatening that some men have a preference for asian women and very young women. I think this is because I found out that my ex had this fetish, and it made me feel undesired because I am not a very young asian woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:50 AM
1

Not explicitly, no. If they talk about it they have to hide their intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 01:12 AM
1

When it comes to sex, yeah. All men are considered sexual predators basically. They are guilty until proven innocent. No, I think marrying for money is even less acceptable than marrying younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 01:07 AM
3

It's an interesting question. My guess would be romantic ideals coupled with an increase in the length of time a person is considered a child. When a man marries a much younger women, it is assumed to be for shallow reasons which is a big no no according to our romantic morals. Note that it used to be acceptable to marry for money also. This is also now taboo for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 12:51 AM
3

People learn love as children and when they grow up they try to reproduce the same feeling of love they got from their parents. Much of the disappointment that men and women encounter in their romantic relationships comes from the realization that no one will love you as unconditionally and as unselfishly as your parents. Not only will your partner make a lousy replacement parent, but they also will expect you to be a parent to them. It sucks being the adult, but if you try to be a child in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 09:33 PM
1

You don't imitate them. You just be happy when they are happy and sad when they are sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:31 AM
1

Ignoring the weird example..... When they talk listen to them with 100% of your attention, make soft eye contact, and smile at them warmly. React to what they are saying in a way that mirrors their emotions at the time. You can also repeat what they say in your own words and offer follow up questions. Most people have a desire to be listened to and understood, so this is an easy need to fulfill. When you fulfill some need the other person has, you create attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 09:02 PM
1

Were you dating Whisper or was that someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:03 PM
2

Dunno what she said since it was deleted. Something something...personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 11:22 PM
1

That's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:32 AM
1

This is a strange change of tune. Attractive men are more likely to be beta minded than unattractive men? What should the women who only have access to unattractive men look for?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:31 AM
2

Yep. Smart too. On our teacher evaluations she would get lots of comments like "you are the most beautiful woman I've ever seen" and "marry me". Once we were out for lunch and one her students came up and asked her out. But yeah, the baby is very lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:24 AM
1

What will you do instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:03 AM
1

Yeah. Her dad is an athlete and her mom is a Stacy with a PhD in physics. She'll be set.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:55 AM
1

Have you ever tried this to see if it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:50 AM
1

What do the Chads you know act like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:20 AM
1

Actually yeah. One of my Stacie friends is with a Chad. He is very good looking and got an athletic scholarship. He is really nice though. She would call him up whenever we needed a ride and he'd drop what he was doing and come pick us up. I would be too afraid to even ask my boyfriend. She also told me that she was looking at this expensive purse online and he was looking over her shoulder. Then he bought it for her as a surprise. I never saw him acting like a jerk. They are married and have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:16 AM
1

I don't know. I only make friends with beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:01 AM
4

If they think being a jerk attracts women, then they will be transparent about their asshole nature, and then the women who don't want this can more easily avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:52 AM
1

I don't actually know anyone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:48 AM
3

Lol, I love you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:46 AM
1

I never understood what Rpillers actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:39 AM
5

That's not what she said though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:34 AM
1

Do what things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:30 AM
9

I haven't seen this, at least to the same degree as the opposition to TRP. Women don't like "ten ways to trick a woman into sleeping with you" but for the same reason men don't like "ten ways to trick a man into marriage". It has nothing to do with faking attraction and instead comes from a reasonable dislike of being manipulated for another's gain at your own expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:18 AM
5

Is that what they say? I've only heard them complain about their partner associating with a group that is outspoken about their disdain for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:11 AM
0

What about their reaction counters her view?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:05 AM
2

Do you think that RPillers didn't fit this description prior to finding TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:52 PM
7

Rp men were never beta to begin with. They were fake betas and RP allows them to live like they really wanted. If anything women should be grateful to TRP for exposing all the alpha-minded men pretending to be betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:23 PM
1

Yeah my guess is that people want the empty space to make their own decision about you without any pressure or expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:08 PM
1

That's a great way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:47 PM
1

Are you 'nice' in the way I defined?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:18 PM
2

Do you think these women would still have trouble if they knew all the men that really want a girlfriend online? Would they be open to dating an incel guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:16 PM
1

Yeah I guess the trick is to not get so attached during that period that you ignore all the warning signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:12 PM
1

Yeah so far my slut tells are similar to the ones TRP has for women. Drinks, does drugs or smokes, has tattoos, parties, was in a fraternity, requests threesomes or anal, hasn't had a relationship last longer than 5 years, high n count, escalates quickly, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:11 PM
4

Nice men = men who want and value relationships. AMALT = men who are settling for relationships because they cant get casual sex or are pretending to want a relationship in order to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:51 PM
4

I know you are joking, but if men could give some suggestions on how to distinguish 'nice' men from the sea of AMALTS I'd be down to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:09 PM
1

AWALT, but really it's AHALT. The reason is because you can't divorce the person from the circumstances, and all people act similar in similar circumstances. In the case of relationships, you create the circumstances for your partner. Each new partner that you have will be put in the same circumstance (a relationship with you), so you will see the same patterns in behavior over and over again. Of course each of these people have their own unique histories and internal worlds, but you will still …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:52 PM
3

Nice comment. I posted this on my subreddit if you would like to discuss this topic further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:38 PM
6

What do you imagine goes on during a therapy session?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 09:24 PM
1

Did you find someone else too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:31 AM
3

I think most women just give up on obtaining intimacy with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:18 AM
1

Yeah that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:41 PM
1

Why do men want women so much? What do we offer that you want besides sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:35 PM
1

Lack of self efficacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:28 PM
1

What is the ideal then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:56 PM
1

The guilt tripping part isn't cool, but I love getting the "Do you still love me?" type of questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:17 PM
2

Why didn't you get end up getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:07 PM
1

I guess it's time for me to grow up then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:02 PM
1

Also, it's not fair that you leave an argument feeling confused. Do you think she does that on purpose just to 'win'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:59 PM
1

Okay I'll just pm you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:44 AM
2

I was thinking she had low EIQ since she constantly shifts the argument to be about different things. To me this is a sign that she doesn't know why she's upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:39 AM
1

Do I seem very immature?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:18 AM
2

Who has the high EIQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 10:09 AM
2

Sorry on her behalf because I also do this sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:59 AM
1

33
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:55 AM
2

What about you OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:48 AM
2

I don't mind stuff like this. I like giving reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:39 AM
8

My boyfriend seems a little colder than usual and I apologize for whatever made him mad. He says it's okay but he still doesn't talk to me for a few hours. Then he apologizes for being cranky. Then I tell him it's okay, I deserved it. Then we joke around to relieve tension or give each other hugs. I never have a problem with any of my boyfriends. I'm usually the one that causes all the problems with my behavior. Usually I will agree to change, but unless it's a trivial issue, I'm frequently not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:03 AM
2

Here it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:43 AM
1

I could make a private temporary subreddit and only invite the people who are interested. Then we could ask you questions and you could respond at your leisure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:53 AM
2

I would form a pact with my best friends that whoever liked him the most gets to have him. Then me and the other woman would dead bedroom him. We would help raise her kids and it would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:25 AM
1

I asked you awhile back to do an AMA. Would you still be interested? I am fascinated by your story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:18 AM
5

What's wrong with his face? His only issue is he's overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:08 AM
2

That's what I like the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:07 AM
2

I guess the woman if I had zero attraction to the guy and she was sufficiently masculine looking (Brienne of Tarth). But that would be hard to accomplish. 99% of guys are at least a little bit attractive. For instance the guy in your picture doesn't look bad to me. If it was him I'd pick the guy. He's got a great face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:39 PM
9

If a woman loves you she's not going to want to share you. It's too painful. Even if she agrees to the situation out of desperation, she will quickly grow to despise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 03:01 PM
6

I don't think any women, even RP women, think in terms of AF/BB. That is only something that men think about. But looking at real life examples of your fantasy, polygamous marriages are more business transactions than romantic relationships. Women are okay with the sharing because the guy is rich and there is plenty of money to go around, not because he is exceptionally charming or hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:46 PM
3

Would you be okay with them all seeing you as a BB? I think this is the only way it could work realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:04 PM
9

How can you have a deep intimate relationship with 4 women at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:17 AM
1

I don't know the details of his social circle, but I would not call him inhibited. He's outgoing enough to talk to women. Yeah he's sad, but who wouldn't be? It sucks being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:40 AM
1

He has friends. He talks to women without difficulty. And he only talks about this stuff when people bring it up and try to push the idea that everyone who struggles with dating must have a bad personality. I'm sure it gets old hearing that. It's a little like telling poor people that they just need to work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:24 AM
3

I have spent hours and hours talking to /u/changeIsTheWay and I have yet to see any problems in his personality yet. On the contrary, he has been a really good friend to me, the best friend I have right now. He is doing what he can to improve his life, but some things are out of his control. He can't change his looks drastically without surgery, and he can't make people less shallow. I resent people telling him that this is his fault and that his lack of dating success is due to a shitty persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:13 AM
1

I judge men more harshly for this one particular behavior. Not in general. It doesn't matter anyway. I know I am being stupid. I just don't like guys that do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:35 PM
2

I judge whoever ends the relationship usually. If it's the woman then I'll judge her more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:32 PM
1

I don't judge those guys and they usually don't have high n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:20 PM
2

I imagine that all male partiers are on the prowl looking for women to pump and dump or increase their notch count so they can brag about it to their buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:08 PM
1

Having sex isn't a crime. I just dislike masculine sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:50 PM
2

Just when it comes to sleeping around. Guys tend to have different motivations than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:40 PM
9

Don't look at me I'm hideous and old!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:39 PM
1

No. I'm less judgmental of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:42 AM
13

It's nice. I hate it when people look at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:17 AM
5

I don't care how hard it is. It's dumb either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:59 AM
3

Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:48 AM
2

Me: What do you like to do for fun? Him: Go to bars, drink, go to parties and concerts. Me: (this guy is a slut)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:44 AM
1

How would she find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:21 AM
1

did he get banned or just delete his account?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:18 AM
1

You told me that short men in some cases are more likely to get hired because they aren't seen as much of a threat and I assume the same could be true for women. I personally have never experienced any bias on account of my gender in my field, at least that I'm aware of. I think even if it exists it's better not to worry about. Thinking about it too much can create too many ghosts in the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:30 PM
1

I didn't offer any reasoning to my view originally, which I should have provided instead of just giving an absolute statement with no backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:19 PM
2

The above behavior is a result of him not having the upper hand and struggling to gain some control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:26 PM
5

It's too much of a risk. Revealing secrets are a good way to cultivate intimacy, but there are certain things that are too threatening for the other person to handle. This particular piece of information has a high risk of causing distrust or disgust, and a low risk of building intimacy. There is also no way the woman can relate to this particular experience, so it will cause a disconnect rather than a bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:09 PM
1

Which guy are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:04 PM
5

No, never tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:01 PM
1

The incels I have been friends with are a different type than you find online. They are more volcels than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:58 PM
1

Maybe I like him, but he doesn't like me? Looking back on my male friendships, that has been a more common scenario than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:56 PM
1

I like that men are fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:53 PM
1

Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:36 AM
2

Why would we deem him unfit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:11 AM
5

I thought this is what most people already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 04:31 AM
3

If you are a passionate, career driven person yourself then it makes sense that you would want someone like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 04:11 AM
4

I wouldn't want to be with a career man either to be honest. Having a job is fine, but if he is a highly motivated individual who craves success then he most likely won't have any time to spend with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:23 AM
2

They don't have to, but some women might want to because they don't want anyone to get hurt, especially if this person is their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:20 AM
1

Yes it will always feel like that when you are much more emotionally invested in a person than they are with you. It hurts but you are just not as important to her. The way to avoid this is to guard your feelings and only invest in the people who are invested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:14 AM
2

I think that would only work if he didn't have oneitis for his friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 02:51 AM
0

Yeah unfortunately not. That's why I think guys are wary of being explicit about their feelings too. They don't want to potentially ruin the friendship so they wait for some obvious sign from the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 02:49 AM
2

I think that often times they are upset because an approach kills the relationship unless the feelings are reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 02:22 AM
8

Yeah. They don't for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:56 AM
4

Have warm feelings towards. These could include some romantic feelings, but not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:46 AM
3

I will say it is very difficult not to express affection towards someone that you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:34 AM
1

Yeah, she is making out these men to be conniving schemers, but really they just like a girl and want her to like them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:33 AM
2

Maybe you are perfect in this area, but then thank your parents for giving you and excellent upbringing, or thank god for giving you above average emotional intelligence. Other people don't have your life experiences or privileges. You are free to pass judgement on people, but you specifically said that you do not want to pass judgement. So if you want to be understanding, then the best way to do this is to look at your own flaws. Or just judge them. It's up to you really. Getting back to the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:25 AM
1

I am curious if you don't mind sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:12 AM
1

Did she give you an explanation first?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:55 AM
1

How can men tell what page the woman is on though? It seems extraordinarily difficult. What kind of signals should he look for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:46 AM
1

Groovy, I hope you come back as an alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:42 AM
1

Your respected friend called you a horrible person though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:39 AM
2

There a subtext here of 'women are crazy emotional roller coasters who you can't expect the same level of thought, consideration, and mindfulness of that you expect of men, or of yourself'. And IF that's true...that's not okay. People who come to this conclusion often lack the self awareness to see the same behavior in themselves. Women are likely more guilty in this particular context, but men exhibit the same behavior in other situations. For an example, the whole anger phase in TRP is men pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:33 AM
5

They are punishing you for putting them in an uncomfortable situation where they are forced to be the bad guy and reject you. They might also be angry at you for changing the relationship dynamic from the status quo, which they liked. They probably already knew you liked them, but enjoyed receiving your attention under the pretense of a platonic friendship. Under this guise, they don't have to worry about your feelings at all. When you put your intentions out in the open, this forces them to dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 09:08 PM
2

That might be what they want in real life, but in the fantasy it's actual rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:33 PM
1

Here is an example from that thread on male friends. I wouldn't be friends with any of my male friends if every interaction we had was in the context of the dude using the best calculated word choices and mannerism with the end goal of sleeping with me. When that happens, every interaction we have isn't as friends. My friends don't consistently calculate their interactions with the end goal of sleeping with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 08:19 PM
1

What were the circumstances leading up to the divorce? Did you and your wife try to fix the issue? Did you know there were problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:27 PM
1

I'll open up my inventory every time you try to travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 08:22 PM
1

Next time we play borderlands I'm just going throw grenades at you the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 06:27 PM
2

Lifts, high n count, cocky DGAF attitude, confident, pushes for sex early, seems to have a lot of options, doesn't show much vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:12 PM
7

I don't think their intentions are nearly as predatory as you are imagining. They probably like you and want you to like them back, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:50 PM
1

I would be more concerned about my responsibility to protect his feelings in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:11 PM
1

Yeah there is the assumption that if a woman can't find a boyfriend, it's because men are shallow. If a man can't find a girlfriend, it's because he's a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:01 PM
1

...thanks buddy :I
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:57 PM
2

The orbiters. Do they enjoy her company, talking to her, doing things with her, etc. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:52 AM
4

Do they enjoy the friendship as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:45 AM
5

I think it would only be illegitimate if he really didn't want to be her friend, but this would be an odd situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:33 AM
7

Why would this make platonic male-female friendships illegitimate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:20 AM
1

There seems to be some missing piece of the puzzle, and I'm not sure what it is. On one hand, men are obviously more visual than women. Physical attractiveness occupies a greater proportion of female attractiveness than men's. But there does seem to be a lot of lonely men online that have low to no standards. Where are all the lonely single women? Why don't they take advantage of this large pool of single men, men that want relationships and not just sex? Surely they can find one man they are at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:14 AM
1

I don't see a problem with viewing parts of male or female sexuality with contempt, but how does hiding the less appealing parts of yourself make things worse? I am not so sure men and women are capable of loving each other without obfuscating some of the more disgusting parts of their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 09:30 AM
1

Exactly. Imagine what people would tell an unattractive woman who had problems dating (outside of PPD). They might give her advice, but they would also give her sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:08 AM
2

I didn't know how some men were. I thought they were all nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 12:48 AM
2

Not in real life just online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 12:47 AM
1

What are some of your modes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:56 PM
1

How similar is your real life personality to your online personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:52 PM
2

I would now avoid the traits that i didn't like in my exes, or the traits that I associate with Rpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 08:58 PM
1

She seems to be pretty happy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 08:22 PM
1

Huh, well our experiences are different. Maybe we can find some way to get your guy friends with my girl friends haha. Why aren't you setting her up with incels or other men who women don't have much interest in? I thought you said you were friends with a lot of guys like that. I did for one friend. I showed her picture to every single male friend I knew that might plausibly like her. They said they weren't attracted to her. At the time I didn't know about all the incels online. So if it happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:13 PM
2

I don't relate to their conversation at all. For one, my requirements have only increased as I get older and discover that being single is better than being in a bad relationship. Secondly, there are a lot of nice guys out there. If their standards are as low as they say they are, then they shouldn't have too many problems finding someone. I'm fairly annoyed with these women and don't feel bad for them at all actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:00 PM
1

That's surprising to me. Did any of the guys pursue these women exclusively? Did the women have some other feature that made them attractive? Why did the women dump the guys? And yeah, the women I posted aren't actually that masculine. I couldn't find any better examples. And no, I don't think the specific women I'm thinking of were playing the victim. I saw guys ignoring them myself. Once I tried to match one of my single girl friends with my single guy friends, but no one wanted her when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:50 PM
1

Yeah, approaching can definitely improve a woman's chances. The woman I know who looked like this also occasionally have friends with benefits or even boyfriends, but the guys would be flakey and be clearly not that into them. They wouldn't pursue them like men typically pursue women they are attracted to. Instead, she would just be convenient for him at the time. Also, did the women you are thinking of have masculine faces, or were they just overweight? Were the guys they dated really into them…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:31 PM
5

Usually some combination of the following features: large jaw and chin, small eyes, overweight, low hip to waist ratio, bulbous nose, a brow that projects outwards, thin hair, flat butt, broad shoulders, lips with down-turned corners, underbite, looks older than she is, long face and nose, lack of feminine style and makeup. The woman on the left would be an example. Another example I'm not saying that these women are ugly, but they are just the type that doesn't get much if any attention from gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 11:59 PM
1

Usually some combination of the following features: large jaw and chin, small eyes, overweight, low hip to waist ratio, bulbous nose, a brow that projects outwards, thin hair, flat butt, broad shoulders, lips with down-turned corners, underbite, looks older than she is, long face and nose, lack of feminine style and makeup. The woman on the left would be an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 11:59 PM
2

Yeah, but that wasn't really my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 10:39 PM
13

There are women that don't seem to inspire any romantic interest in men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 10:02 PM
15

They don't approach the blond cheerleader, but they will approach the pretty, yet approachable girl with a youthful, feminine face. And they don't realize that every other guy does the exact same thing. Actually ugly girls get ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:21 PM
4

Although I agree the Women are Wonderful effect is real, I don't think this is the cause of what you are describing. Men already treat a lot of women with indifference. They don't go out of there way to treat chubby, ugly women as special. These women are mostly ignored. They don't orbit grandmas even if she actually is a kind sweet old wonderful lady. If they find out that she is secretly baking cookies for someone else and using more chocolate chips for them, I doubt they would come up with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:29 PM
2

Yeah, what men think about what women think reveals some interesting things about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:55 PM
1

Hot!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:50 PM
2

There is a cultural tendency to see women as passive or helpless, and individual women will use this perception bias in their favor. If the bias wasn't there though, then she wouldn't be able to do this. Men for the most part aren't able to feign helplessness, because people will just tell them to man up. So yeah, it's both. The cultural tendency is there, and women will reinforce the idea that women are the victims of men because they can use this in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:49 PM
1

That idea isn't actually revolting at all to me. It is to you? What do you find revolting about it? It's certainly a situation that I would avoid, but it doesn't inspire any visceral reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:36 PM
2

Indifference is fine. Darkmoon mentioned viewing women with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:15 PM
7

Women who aren't fully formed have a very interdependent self-construal and most of sex for them is a performance designed to elicit desire, not experience pleasure. This is very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:02 PM
22

Being able to take it slow and maintain the guy's interest while not having sex is a luxury afforded to more attractive women. Some less attractive women use sex as a way to try to find a boyfriend. It might take them 50 tries, but eventually it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:59 PM
2

You can look through my past posts and see that I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:59 AM
5

Yeah, I don't think it's innate. It just comes from the cultural tendency to see men as the doers or the agents, and women as passive or helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:05 AM
3

You don't have to bend over backwards for us, but why don't you like us how we are? Are we really that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:54 AM
2

Sorry, I looked but I couldn't find it again. The questions were like this though.... A lily pad is growing in a pond and it doubles in size every day. After 30 days it covers the entire pond, on what day does it cover half pond?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:50 AM
4

Oh so by asshole behavior you mean criminal. I thought it meant pushing over old ladies or kicking children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:35 AM
3

Cuck cuck cuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 12:28 AM
3

What did the incel chicken say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 12:21 AM
1

Haha! :D That's a good one. Did you make it up yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 12:03 AM
1

Hmm..I can't think of anything witty. How many?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:51 PM
7

Yeah, some RPillers think any form of aggression is attractive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:50 PM
2

What did you do specifically? Also, are you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:49 PM
3

That's because I've adopted your frame. Still very AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:01 PM
1

I thought I was orbiting you. Can you give me some homework or something to do? I'm starting to feel useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 11:00 PM
5

I read several studies on it. One study tested men and women in the same university and who were in the same program. They gave them questions which had an intuitively 'obvious' answer that was incorrect. To answer the question correctly, you would have to carefully reason through the question using logic. Men scored significantly higher on this task. Another study looked at brain activity where the participants were shown some emotionally provoking image, and then asked to stop feeling sad, ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:40 PM
6

Be friends with them and try to find them girlfriends and then get jealous when they stop paying attention to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:32 PM
5

No, I am also AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:31 PM
7

We want to look like good people because we are afraid you won't love us anymore if you know how we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:25 PM
2

There was no nuance to these results, he said. Zero of the 160 women surveyed showed a statistical preference for weaker men More for me!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:24 PM
8

Idealistic is not profound though. It's pretty shallow actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:19 PM
37

Correct: Women lack agency. Society coddles women. Women are just as (if not more) shallow as men. Women find dominance and status sexually attractive. Romanticism and idealism are bad for relationships. Mate value is more important than preferences in a mate. Women act pretty much the same (although I would generalize this to people act pretty much the same). You don't want a woman that isn't like other women because she is probably mentally ill. Dread works. (in certain situations) Most of our…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:11 PM
3

You are one of the more empathetic men here on PPD and I always appreciate your comments. There have been several times where I have been extremely impressed by your ability to understand the woman's internal state correctly. However, I think in this case you are trapped inside the male perspective. Yes, this is an assumption and it may be wrong. If so then you can correct me. I am open to changing my mind. But here is how I see it. Perhaps you've had lots of experiences with overly picky and un…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:30 PM
1

She only loves you because she loves the relationship or at least some aspects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:38 PM
1

What advice would you give a woman who has low self esteem and wants to marry the first guy that pays attention to her? She spends her entire 20's supporting him and doing what he wants. Then when the relationship fails in her 30's, she's left without a guy, without her youth, and without any sort of career to support herself. Jezebel's advice is for women like this. You want women to be at the mercy of men, but this is not in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 03:08 PM
5

I wish I knew where they are so I could introduce them to my single guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:52 AM
5

Women don't have a problem finding partners usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:36 AM
2

Probably lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:36 PM
7

They are imagining a high functioning autistic guy against a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:31 AM
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