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Debategat15/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:40 PM
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Question For Mengat15/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:55 AM
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That's what I consider average too, for both genders, but people keep bringing up "the average woman/man is obese" etc That people are below average attractiveness regardless of how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:23 AM
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Here on reddit you hear more of the old "looks don't matter" than irl, most people are aware of how much it matters and I find it disingenuous, it's either they want to believe it or they don't even know themselves. Sure it doesn't mean that someone has to look like a supermodel or a super good looking celeb, but rather you need to be healthy, at least average height, properly groomed, that's all, if you are above average then you can get a more attractive partner if you are below then you'll ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:20 AM
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Probably just way slower when we just met and once I'm comfortable with them "existing" in my life then a more regular pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:46 AM
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It really isn't that way, I probably have problems with attachment, but too much too soon completely burns me out and makes me feel repulsion for them, but not in the "I'm disgusted" kind, just like rather me feeling like I have to run away and safe guard my space
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:40 AM
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I just don't want to have a partner I will regret
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:41 AM
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unpopular I'm not expecting him to be talking to me only before we are an official couple, if he is great, if not I won't even know because I'm not about to bring up a conversation that might hurt me unjustifiably
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:13 AM
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It's just that no matter how much I initially like them I want to make sure that when they meet my friends and family, get more in my life I'm ready and want full commitment" of the "yes I will make compromises for you and actually care for your safety and happiness" kind, which doesn't happen in less than 4-5 months Many guys just want to go through the basics and make you official quick, but then they are messy and aren't even ready for a proper relationship like maybe they themselves are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:40 AM
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Oh wow that's really good advice. Thank you very much, will try. I guess I'll be planting the seed and hoping they remember me or at least don't feel repulsed 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:25 AM
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I'm pretty sure the guys I've dated have had more options than me, so I felt even more surprised when often they even wanted to meet my family so fast LOL Ironically I let go of many things I know many women see as an "ick" because I know people are very flawed, which is okay as long as they aren't a bad person or my values would be compromised The ick is usually that I'm spending way too much time with them when I'd like to have some pace to actually choose them or like you know just getting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:18 AM
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Well I know they are not a monolith, but most might have a time frame that makes them think "yeah this girl is not interested" or maybe "she's just using/seeing me as a friend" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:12 AM
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Isn't Margot Robbie all hype? She's attractive enough sure, she looks very good on some movie angles, but usually she has a face that's too big, too square and her body is severely lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:15 PM
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To me has lots to do with features too something like "phenotype" Some phenotypes can be average and they are pretty good looking to me whilst some even if top tier aren't attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:10 PM
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Are you sure because for what I've seen a man can have money and personality, but If they are short is more like 90% height
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:57 AM
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Yeah, honestly see things that way and it's like 90% of people in relationships are so undesirable in every way to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:20 AM
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But really what is above average anyway, people don't believe above average is genetically above average, really above average is considered a very specific aesthetic aka trendy style that's it Most men see an average woman with long hair and a nice dress and that's it she is above average A woman that's actually genetically attractive, but doesn't look trendy isn't considered above average by men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:19 AM
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She has really narrow hips: https://hollywoodlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/dua-lipa-orange-crochet-bikini-miami-2022-mega-embed2.jpg https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/12/dua-lipa-71.jpg?quality=90&strip=all Would you say for most men thin and toned is a nice body? Even if narrow hips, saggy small bum, saggy small chest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:59 PM
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https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/gettyimages-1491587856-646905eec9121.jpg Rate them, someone said she's a 9 and he's a 4. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/13nr639/daily_community_chat_megathread/jl1n4zu?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button They look looksmatched to me and 7 is pushing it for both. Imo she's a 5: https://cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dua-lipa-meets-up-with-friend-in-lam/dua-lipa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:37 PM
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Even with make up and low res her skin looks weary and old, very visible wrinkles in her eye area. No resemblance of neoteny, bulbous nose, saggy facial skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:36 PM
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I can see that, to me she looks crazy old: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/26/12/55829895-10654697-On_the_go_Dua_s_much_delayed_Future_Nostalgia_tour_kicked_off_in-a-8_1648296679509.jpg She's 27. Some people were saying she looks late teens early 20s LOL Taylor Swift is 33 and looks way better and much younger: https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230318120009-01-taylor-swift-eras-tour-0317.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:23 PM
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What age would you say these people are face alone: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/gettyimages-1491587856-646905eec9121.jpg People be out there saying they look like father and daughter. To me she looks 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:09 PM
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He told me to show me when I said I had no idea what he was atracted to before me, really I was looking to see if I resembled his exes, because I consider that a good sign, but nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:51 AM
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No, I mean, I hadn't liked someone at all for years until I met him this year. Not like me, but at least somehow some common features or something idk at least style wise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:50 AM
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I met someone who was the only man I've wanted in years and years and I believed it was the same for him until I saw his past crush who is not only ugly but couldn't be any more different than myself. I feel genuinely so bad, because I know I'll never think of him the same way and the repulsion I feel over it is overwhelming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:31 AM
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Thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:04 AM
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Nope, men would leave you in a heartbeat if they could get their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:04 AM
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Yes, I have diagnosed BDD and struggled with anorexia in my teens. I have a visceral reaction to that kind of thing and can even morph to me developing flaws in my head that I hadn't seen before when I see the people they've liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:03 AM
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Yes, I don't look down on them anyone is welcome to be attracted to anything they'd like, but I feel repulsed by it and any romantic feelings are gone. I've never told them to change either, but it is a definite deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:26 AM
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Would you say it's okay for me to feel romantically repulsed by men who are actively attracted to ugly women or men that crush on girls too different to me? I get normal people rationalizing this over and over and saying no one can have what they want 🙄, they are just "famous people"🙄. No way would I take someone that would choose someone else had they got a chance. The repulsion I feel over this is instantaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:14 AM
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Just because someone is a model doesn't mean they are beautiful. She has an actual cube of a face with lips to narrow for her face, middle third too long. She looks like a caricature. At 18-19 she was softer and actually pretty nowadays she does look like a man. The man pictures is what they used to rate her and what I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:44 PM
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Some people say guys on this sub have crazy standards. Tiny sample proof they actually don't: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/13f8pgn/daily_community_chat_megathread/jjtu0vr?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:24 PM
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Yeah my friend just met a guy that's best friends with a girl with a boyfriend and they've been friends for years and apparently spend every moment of the day together (she spends more time with him than with her boyfriend). I told her to run for the hills. No way that won't end bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:18 PM
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What would you think of a guy with a girl best friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:01 PM
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It was a double sense joke, but I didn't realize it was dirty until after I said it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:40 AM
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LOL noooo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:24 AM
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I don't want him to look at me like that 😓 now it's like I'm dirty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:23 AM
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I just made a joke not thinking and came up kinda sexual and now I feel so bad 😓 the boy I like is going to think I'm disgusting now. I feel terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:35 AM
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I can't keep being friends with a guy after I've rejected them, it's just too emasculating for them and don't want to feel guilty all the time. Regardless if they had feelings like that if the opportunity presents I'm pretty sure they'll come back. That last thing what you said is the way I see it. If you are attracted and enjoy her company too much you can start seeing things. I can happen to us women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:32 PM
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I've got no idea. Anyone with common sense should know women and men as humans, age the same no variables involved. Then men take less care of themselves than women. I remember years ago everyone saying George Clooney is hot af and I was like where? He's never been that attractive (0 attractive to me personally) to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:03 PM
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Wow nice. Tips on how you communicated that with him and was there sexual tension before, was he okay with it right away? I've never had sex before and I want to do what you did. Develop a strong emotional bond to be comfortable having something so intimate, otherwise I'd just be horrible for me I know. I'd like to hear more of your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:48 PM
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Yes... Gender swap is rubbish because what makes a woman attractive would make a man look to effeminate and weak. What I dont get is people see long hair/nice lighting and filter and then they get tricked into thinking someone looks good? Even if they are unattractive facially like girl in OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:35 PM
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Wow. They are a carbon copy of one another aren't they. I've developed thick skin too. I dread ever having anyone I like or seriously consider met them, best I can do is being honest to them about the situation and hope for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:16 PM
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I think people from healthy families should probably look out for themselves and get with people with healthy families too. I, however can't be hypocritical because my family has been terrible to me and would never behave appropriately so I can't judge someone for the family they've been born in. Best I can do is filter the person and make sure they are good and trying to be better people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:41 AM
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My mom tried to humillate me telling him humillating stuff of me and "her version of me" she believes I'm a terrible monster no one should date for whatever reason (even though she's actually tried to force me to date bottom of the barrel men), in front of a guy I was early dating stages years ago. Couldn't believe why would any parent ever do that. He was ashamed and shocked and I felt like I'd rather be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:26 AM
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Yes, they feel they are right and you wrong because they've got more upvotes 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:21 AM
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I think I agree. Hard pills to swallow. Sadly no way for me to change my mom or dad as they are already old enough and still shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:09 AM
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Ain't it weird how "normie" reddit users would consider us weird and vain or whatever, yet we communicate well for the most part with respect and behave well? Even guys that refer to themselves as "incels" are polite here. But you go to a normal sub and receive tons of passive aggressive comments, insults, gatekeepers...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:31 AM
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Yes, sorry, but even though I'm completely straight I'd prefer Monica and Charlize over that man you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:50 PM
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I've never understood this too lol If many good looking girls were giving you chances and sexual satisfaction would you think: "no way, I'm too ugly for that, I want ugly girls like myself"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:13 PM
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You don't have to dumb yourself down. Just don't be blunt, don't emasculate men, have good mannerisms and voice inflexions. It's subtle things. Lookswise as long as you keep your hair long and full and dress in a non-masculine man, being plain is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:09 PM
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They look like obese rectangles or thin rectangles when they are thin. Beauty wise they are negative values.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:55 PM
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His tastes are 0.002% of rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:48 PM
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I feel at first was because as a little boy he was fat and his first girl crush rejected brutally after simping for her for years, she was obese and very unattractive and gave me the vibes she felt she was better than him and that's the way he perceived himself as. Then nowadays is because he's ruined himself, any self respecting girl who sees he's dated only 1/10 obese/anorexic gothic chicks who listen to music who knows how they've found and plays league of legends all day would see red flags …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:25 PM
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LOL no, his "his league" was waaay above the girls he was dating, dunno what was up with him probably unbelievably low self esteem. One of these days I saw him again and guess what? Still with that kind of person I described. I was kind of disappointed, because come on he never upgraded or gained some self respect. Edit: Worse part is dating so many low end low status weird persons has turned him 😐 nowadays he literally has loser like tastes and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:15 PM
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It's more of a perception overall I feel. Like 2 people could have a "looksmatched" physically appearance, but one of them has nicer style, has more status, then that one would be most definitely considered above the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:12 PM
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I knew a guy years ago that was so cute, he was actually conventionally attractive, good body, tall. Something I found so odd is if I ever saw him a girlfriend it was usually really below average girls. Like hideous to the point they looked like a caricature, some obese, some incredibly thin, both extremes of unattractive. Wonder why that could be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:00 PM
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I think "league" absolutely exists. There's some people that are close to us attractiveness wise and is pretty weird to deny it because we as humans grasp it really quickly on a subconscious level. Might be a little different to people with a low or a high view of themselves by their own perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:55 PM
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Nooo, not by men, I mean women look down on women looking for validation from men. But do you think men don't think that's bad? Like if a man sees a girl that shows her ass in 183829 of her instagram pictures he wouldn't feel.. strange?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:02 PM
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Women say that to not feel bad, I don't know if this is common knowledge for men, but looking for validation from men is incredibly looked down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:41 PM
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EXACTLY. You put it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:53 PM
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IMO and in my experience when women go from normal to revealing clothing they are looking for validation somehow usually from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:51 PM
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I've always seen forever girlfriend as a convenience kind of thing. If you wanted her all that much you wouldn't have her in a state where she can just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:49 PM
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If you don't like her style then don't get with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:44 PM
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Something really terrible of that matter happened to me with someone when I was mid-late teens in high school. I had a "friend" when I still was not good at setting boundaries or understanding what normal behavior was. This guy would neg me a lot, he never showed interested and he was ugly to be honest so he never registered to me that way and we had known each other for years at that point. I had never drank a lot before (outside of just normal family gatherings when you take sip or two) becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:42 PM
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Yes, I agree I haven't ever talked about private stuff like that to my friends, what I meant by talk of them 24/7 means of cute things of him or so. Not his secrets or intimacy or anything of that kind, I find that to be very disrespectful as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:30 PM
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Do you really think is 100% impossible? In my experience unless it's a superficial friendship (chit chat, talking about tv shows, news, study) if you are attracted to someone of the opposite sex feelings start to get confusing and things go from friendship to one of them or both developing feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:09 PM
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I don't know how men behave when I'm not looking, but I've encountered men who gossip, I don't know if a lot or a little because usually I've had girl friends and guys are more like superficial topics kind of friends. Yes, guys who do that are not my friends or talk to them at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:22 PM
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For example younger like in high school I was "friends" with some guys, not really friends, we'd just talk from time to time and sometimes they'd say things like they'd "jerked off" to whatever. I consider being told that to be treated like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:38 PM
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I meant treated with respect, not romantically. I don't particularly trust men with my issues and if they jerked off to whatever I find that to be a disrespectful subject to talk to me about. Yesterday I heard a man pretty much talking of everyone's secrets and heavy gossiping. I wouldn't trust men with my secrets, but if I feel like something can't come out I won't say it outloud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:28 PM
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Well I'm sure it's happened to everyone, I don't really mind to be honest. Some people may find me attractive some might find me ugly and that doesn't make them bad people or affect me in any way. If they've said nasty stuff then yes I'd feel really uncomfortable if I even get to know it cuz private conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:52 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:12 AM
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Do you look at women's asses even if you are in a relationship/in love with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:05 AM
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She's most definitely not just cute what I meant to say is she is way more leaning to that than the Instagram baddie look because those girls have really bold facial features whilst Monica has a soft kinda beauty. Also btw, did you mean "average cute girl" in the OP or you were talking about the cute kinda look not necessarily average?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:39 AM
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Monica's facial structure fits in cute/feminine parameters. She's got a small tapered jaw, round shapes, her eyes are almond a little rounded, she's got a tiny nose and pouty full lips and rounded eyebrows. The sexy insta baddie has a square jaw, hunter eyes, incredibly huge lips, positive tilted eyebrows, huge chiseled cheekbones and bone structure. It's all bold and strong. Monica is usually described as the perfect ideal of femininity and beautiful, not sexy and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:23 AM
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I don't agree. Summer Ray is not neotenous at all and she has sexy eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:00 AM
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Ana is better looking facially imo and the difference between them is Ana is neotenous cute and Summer is sexy. In my opinion they'd chose Ana to marry in a heartbeat and they wouldn't feel like settling at all. Edit: Yikes apparently my comments are getting downvoted by the same kind of people that tried to force the idea that Dua Lipa's rough masculine looks is what men desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:44 AM
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Would you say men would choose Summer Ray (Instagram hottie) over Ana de Armas (cute feminine sexy)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:32 AM
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I used to think the same, but I've realized men are more attracted to cute feminine women than they are to the hottest chick on Instagram that shows a lot and sexualizes herself a lot. Trust me on this 100%. Those women are seen as a sex entity because that's what they present themselves as and men go for them because they believe I'd be way easier as they look interested in sex (their whole persona is literally sex). In one of my threads men said Monica Bellucci is the kind of woman you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:22 AM
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I have a friend that developed really early too and she was sl*t shamed when she was about 10 simply because she had big boobs that she had no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:56 PM
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I meant long term for that specific girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:00 AM
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You sure you ain't all fucking each other? Proof? Just kidding lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:17 AM
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IMO being too nice is a yellow flag. People should have a backbone and I wouldn't want someone that's a total people pleaser unable to stand their ground and communicate if something is bothering them. They won't have a backbone with you, their family, their friends. If you really like the person you can help them develop one if possible. I don't think is really that bad really. Someone can be a really good person and problems be mild if they are too nice, but not a perfect thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:02 AM
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I knew someone that would show me snapchat pictures only of girls and say they "didn't change much" trust me they changed much. Also body can be altered by filters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:45 AM
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Something I find really strange is I see extremely bodies or faces online that are obviously fake. Bodies with a waist to hips ratio of 0.50-0.55 with boobs so big they look like'd be in agony all day and crack and some porn addicted men believe that's reality. Many even believe those filters that make you so blurry you look noseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:06 PM
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I frankly don't understand why people find this brutal. I'm a normal person. More extroverted than not and ever since I was like 8 I understood most girls like the same bunch of boys, that the normal boys had to do something especial to be liked and that outcast guys were even gross to girls unless they were not just above average, but real good looking and not looking weird on the outside. It was obvious to me most girls aren't pretty either and I found cringe when 4/10 and below women though t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:27 PM
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Yup, has someone not seen women's behavior around the best looking guy vs a normal one? Night and day. Always that people say they look for a certain set of attributes they imagine them on a good looking man. Same for men btw doubt when they say they want a funny woman they imagine some social outcast girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:23 PM
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Men don't like the chase? But don't we all as humans developed more attachment to what's hard to get? Especially men who are hunters and competitive by nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:58 PM
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I told my friends a little over the situation, but nothing bad as I don't want to damage his reputation either. It's been okay so far. Only thing is he's putting social media updates as if he was going through a break up. That just reinforces I made the right decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:18 PM
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He has hot guy vibes and looks like someone who has no problem in social situations. He has a good frame imo above most guys and looks muscular. He said women tell him he has a deep voice too (in this thread) and his facial looks are balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:12 AM
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Interesting. Yes, I think that's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:49 AM
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I know :( he's told me how he struggles so much and he doesn't have friends and all of that and it's sad and weighs on me to believe he might get depressed over it. I tried to be nice (just stay with him at lunch) to him after he told me he was having a shitty day and now I feel so guilty over it because I'm pretty sure he misread it. I can't handle his personality and disrespect anymore on top of being smoothered so badly. Lol you might think is dumb, but I feel so overwhelmed that I genuinely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:38 AM
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Honestly me too. With so many conflicting views, women seeing even way above average guys as average and so on, the idea of an average man is quite distorted in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:24 PM
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I've tried many times to go away quietly, he comes back and doesn't get when I tell him I want space. Problem is he is quite a toxic person, one ups me, makes up assumptions about me, even say he believes "what I think" and it's usually the meanest things about other people. I'm not a person that likes to talk poorly of others and he does it aaall the time. I'm already waiting for him to make up stuff about me, but anything to not feel this way anymore. He even says he knows more than me about m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:38 PM
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Thank you. I've changed my settings now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:29 PM
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Okay let me activate that thing. I'd prefer a description, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:22 PM
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Body build? Pretty boy? Masculine pretty boy? Masculine? Age range of the women? Edit: Voice ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:17 PM
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My degree has more girls than boys and most girls don't want to date at all no matter what. An almost 70% percentage of men in total + that... well. It's understandable I believe. Different achool you'd most definitely have more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:15 PM
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Yes, I agree. I'd never ever tell a man I'm interested on my insecurities, any man really I only talk of it with really close girl friends. Talking about how insecure you are, family problems etc to someone you want to attract and barely know is so undesirable. Men shouldn't go for women that do that either, I consider it a red flag. Someone desperate to share, sees anyone as a therapist, doesn't value time that takes to know someone... Bad all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:04 PM
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Are you introverted? Degree more predominantly male?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:42 PM
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I've only went to a club once after my friends said I'd be fun. Not fun at all to me lol noisy and uncomfortable, everyone trying to hook up with everyone 🤢, but if I can base my experience on that one time, yes, I saw what you described. Would you say is the nature of the situation what makes people behave that way (similar to tinder)? People looking for sex behave mkre superficially. Honestly I don't have guys I'd consider friends, so I don't know much about their lives or anything, but it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:42 PM
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I've said "I don't want a relationship with you" and it doesn't work. I don't enjoy orbiters I'm really independent and I feel more comfortable alone and then talking to my only girls friend group that are so easy going and calm really they are like peace. I agree with the last part and that's the way I feel often, that if they don't respect my choice they shouldn't even talk to me or be my friends, but it's so difficult when you feel guilty for hurting other people even bad ones and even more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:28 PM
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Last part is the problem for me, even though I feel big majority of men take it with grace, the ones that don't that seem to be such a common theme in my life are the problem. I've done the last one a couple of times (difficult when you are in a place everyone knows you) and one of them didn't work. Ended up briefly dating the person after he acted like he was so different now and still to this day he both hates and is obsessed with me. It's been hell with that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:22 PM
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See this is what I think has got to do with it the most. I don't like hurting or embarrassing people, I keep secrets if someone confides in me and I don't trash talk people. I suspect they would not act this way with the girls that are the most outwardly spoken out of fear of embarrassment which nearly makes me feel like they try to take advantage of me because they think I'm weaker and easier to take advantage of. I'm extroverted as in I don't mind being the center of attention, I make friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:17 PM
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The "I have a boyfriend" I've used before and it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:03 PM
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Early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:01 PM
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That's not fair at all. When I asked this question I was more thinking maybe I wasn't assertive enough, have a more closet up body language. Maybe things I could to that unconsciously make men keep going despite being told no. Ruining myself physically, having no hygiene and things like that not at all. I'm a person too and even when I don't like to overly accentuate my figure or wear make up and things like that, I like to look nice when I look at myself in the mirror and feel nice too and to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:00 PM
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Physically I look like I'm not promiscuous (I'm not promiscuous either anyway, I'm a virgin), I don't want to look promiscuous and I don't want my reputation ruined either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:45 PM
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I don't make myself seem more attractive 😓 I wear normal clothes, not reveling or showy. I don't wear make up. Because I don't have a lot of time I don't put on fragrance most of the time. The one thing that's non negotiable is my hair as I really love my hair. I feel this might even make it worse as it makes me "more approachable".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:40 PM
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I would like to know if there is a reason why this happens to me over and over, might be something I'm doing? What can I do for this to never happen to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:37 PM
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Early 20s. School I mean college. I mean it seriously. I have no guy friends to ask because I don't even want to bring up this topic to men I know irl. If you think the part about many men having this problem with me I can delete it too. Just want to make it obvious it might be a problem with me and I feel it might be related to me being docile, neotenous, feminine and modest looking (this particular group of features) as I don't see many of my friends having this problem, not to the extend it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:36 PM
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I consider that worldview problematic. I think men and women should look at everyone as human beings and if they like someone so be it for everything. OP is basically saying women should see men as men with madonna-whore complex see women. Mental illness and nasty af. Men with madonna-whore see women for sex as lesser than and the wives as some saint. Women with it would see promiscuous men as objects and men they marry someone they could gain from. Some posts on this sub are so problematic. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:31 PM
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Well, Marilyn still to this day I've seen men find her really attractive, no surprise because she was really charismatic on top of attractive, I've seen some of her movies and she makes the movies way more memorable with her facial expressions and charm. Kim Kardashian I don't think I've ever heard a man mention her as their top most beautiful or stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:13 PM
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I've never seen any actual study, speaking from experience. Men who go for real facial beauty like that tend to be more detail oriented and fall enamoured with the essence of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:40 PM
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Second one is 100% edited. Are those pics an exaggerated version of what you find attractive irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:19 PM
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I adore Salma's personality. The other day I was watching random stuff and saw an interview of hers and she was magnetic and so interesting couldn't stop myself from watching it all. I've always wondered if by Salma Hayek you mean early Salma From Dusk Till Down?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:15 PM
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Katy Perry is a little off considering the others on your list, but you are a rarity, those women are real beauty. Men who appreciate real beauty like that are usually different. Are you more relationship oriented?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:11 PM
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I think low self-esteem, abuse, mental illness can make someone act desperate for attention. Maybe not in all cases, but I think having no dignity like those men is tied to low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:35 PM
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When I said average guys I meant average height, average face, average body, good hygiene and normal outside of the desperation. Are that kind of guys really so desperate? One of the guys was so cute... Above average height, good body frame, pretty boy above average face with full lips, gym body. I sometimes felt a knot in my stomach when I saw him simping over 35+ unhygienic reject of society women (we were late teens-very early 20s when I knew him), obese very bad looking girls our age that mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:20 PM
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I think people should have some dignity both men and women. The behavior I described is quite humillating in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:56 PM
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I understand that, but I mean he would simp and kind of harass bottom of the barrel women while in a relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:56 PM
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One of the guys had a cute-ish girlfriend, some of the girls he simped for were miles uglier than his gf, they were seriously bottom of the barrel. Thoughts on why this could be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:29 PM
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Well I'm not lol. I'm not overweight or slightly so, I have "good fat distribution" and I'm usually at 20-22 BMI. I'm asking because for what I've seen online I thought I was maybe way thinner than what's "on trend now".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:55 AM
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Yes, I understand you being shocked about Probably there's the whole "body positivity" movement to it, but genuinely, I'm surprised by how negative men still see it. I feel like I've been brainwashed lol to think differently. Would you say Ashley Graham is considered too fat for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:07 AM
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They were for sure, but that coupled with what I had seen in the media seeing these comments is eye opening lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:07 AM
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What is 304?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:57 PM
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How overweight was she? Aprox BMI?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:55 PM
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Wow. I knew a guy that legit went for girls like the one you mentioned first only, morbidly obese (30+ bmi) and no curves. He came of as that's what he really liked, but he begged me to date him for months and months and then he started telling me I was disgusting because I was skinny and men don't like bones and I wasn't even skinny my BMI has always been around 20-22 and I think I probably fit most people's definition of curvy. Them he went to date a really skinny (comfortably underweight) 0 c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:34 PM
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Hmm seriously her? Why? Because she's petite and curvy? You're talking about her in this? https://i.redd.it/0aimugf1yvj71.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:45 AM
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Nice. Don't you think there are women that sort of match many beauty traits that make them attractive to most of the male population? For example a medium hourglass body, heart shaped face with a small nose and full lips and average 5'4 height?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:48 PM
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Do you like Nata Lee too or is she too tanned? I've seen she is a really popular insta model. Another question now that you brought that about thickness. Would you consider this woman to be thick? https://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_2022_01/41_fe53e15e-1230-4124-a1d6-c4d7445ef935.jpg.1d5ffee607d4f0cfb4b39969aa249042.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g1Fk9yJrX7U/frame0.jpg I have that kind of body with really big thighs in proportion to face/body. Wonder if that's considered really curvy or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:46 PM
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Interesting. I'm actually glad you replied to my thread. I've always been curious about why men are attracted to the " very instagram type". So maybe you could clear that up for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:19 PM
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Yikes... Did you ever get any insight on why he was doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:41 AM
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I wish they wouldn't get a chance to hurt anyone, but as far as I remember I wasn't aware of how "Nice Guys" operate or even were in my early-mid teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:12 AM
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Well, I don't care for them like that. I don't know what to tell you about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:42 AM
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Wow, thank you a lot for your explanation. I never knew she was in so many movies of that kind and even that music video you linked. Explains well why she's so adored. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:31 PM
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I'm not going to post the best I can find as they are supposed to show what they really look like not the best pictures ever 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:29 PM
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Can I ask you why is Jennifer Connelly so attractive to men? Her roles? What made her a 10 to you? I've never seen her as looking good enough for an 8 even. Makes me curious what is it that other people see? For example look at her here: https://youtu.be/rJO78pClT8c Comments are dying over her apparently, but she's maybe slighty above average, masculine energy plain jane to me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:48 PM
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Rihanna is really pretty, sexy and her body is gorgeous too. Dua Lipa stands out because she's tall, and she might be overly sexualized, but she's legit ugly to me and her body is too: https://cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dua-lipa-meets-up-with-friend-in-lam/dua-lipa-meets-up-with-friend-in-la-01.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/3f/ef/423feff7f356d353ebeb2d52cb2ae749.jpg I hope for my sake of mind men don't actually think she's a 10 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:45 PM
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Their guides are really bad. Of the 9.5s none is on Adriana's level and in Kelseys row she's the best looking one. Their 4.5s are not just below average, but comfortably ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:40 PM
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I meant by a "regular 10" what a normal person would consider a 10 irl. Don't agree about using worst images. Maybe Vinetria's is not super realistic (because it's from her instagram), but I think she has an extreme kind of beauty there, basically all that's considered perfect amplified which is what I was going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:35 PM
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Yes, but well, might be subjective but young adriana is one of the few women I consider to be perfect looking. A 10/10 for the typical person is way more regular looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:24 PM
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Yes, but ahe is reaaally good looking, a real rarity so I never use her as an example because I think you very very rarely would see someone like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:29 PM
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They are usually really subjective. I don't agree with their idea of masculine women being the best looking and some of the women they rate high are too plain, example: Nana, she's like a 6 max to me. Seems like not even an objective ratíng sub is safe from virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:28 PM
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Rachel is a total beauty for me too. Pictures don't make her justice lol she glows in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:47 AM
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Nope, Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:11 AM
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I agree Emma is not a a 10, but out of the ones you posted only Jasmine fits the "criteria".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:10 AM
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I think she is 7 personally. I've seen men like her way more than I find her pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:55 AM
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LOL Nice, so mostly shape for guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:29 AM
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I prefer Monica too. I just posted her because I think Vinetria is an example of an extreme kind of beauty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:28 AM
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I think body is important too to attractiveness overall. Proportions, curves... I have a classmate that has a reaaaal big booty. Sometimes I wonder if guys feel like fainting or something when she walks by LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:26 AM
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Hahaha nice. How big would stop being nice or the bigger the better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:12 AM
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Nice. I agree I think 10 is not real as even the most beautiful people have flaws. I guess by saying 10 I went to subjective territory, but what I really meant is a really attractive person. Someone that most people would agree is good looking. Can you place the women I talked about Emma, Jennifer, Monica, Vinetria on that 2-8 scale? Would you say a a little less good looking people are more attractive in general instead of really striking like Vinetria that may have some diminishing returns lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:11 AM
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Lol that made me laugh. I agree with you, though. Combination of both for sure. I see it with Sydney, but not the others? Both Jenna and Zoe have bad bodies to me. Flat and boyish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:58 AM
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https://i.redd.it/zu9uk5dm8b571.jpg https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1040841469448139154/8810289DAF6662A768DC1218232B697506B42B5E/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false Hmm, no... Her face is flat and square, nor is particularly lean not round. Her lips are medium-small and she doesn't have a good bone structure, it's rather average. She's cute, but I disagree with nearly all you said. Monica was around 90s too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:51 AM
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Honestly yes. Redditors virtue signal a lot. They would not be honest. Most people consider those careers as really high status and they are highly desired by women. Same for those threads about the loser kids at high school over the top success stories. Nope, if the kid was severely struggling/bullied/heavy social anxiety they usually pour those into adulthood, life ain't a sitcom like redditors like to lie about. Same for girls that pretend they'd love Michael Cera and Black Jack and Brad Pitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:41 AM
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Nice. Yes I agree on that one. There's a concensus on what people are highly attractive and those ones at least I see and think well those are definitely really great looking people, that's what I'm sorta saying by 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:29 AM
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I'm curious about why? What are her feminine features? I can see some, but for what I see her feminity is not really that high. Would you say she'd still be considered a babe nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:23 AM
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Yup. I actually think I've always known that since I was about 10 years old because all the little girls liked a little boy while all the others where invisible to them. Interesting how things work. I usually wonder if it's really biology to blame for women being pickier or if women are usually just born better looking. Also I wonder if some women are considered attractive because men are not just "normal", but desperate, you know. I knew someone really desperate, he'd consider even really (REAL…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:20 AM
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Well she could be a non-beauty model. The Hadids, Kendall, Adriana Lima, Candice Swanepoel are beauty models (and high fashion too, but they CAN be beauty models). High Fashion models aren't usually as pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:11 AM
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Would you agree or not with them? Lost in Translation, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, starting Avengers etc she is a 10 (or incredibly attractive) to me. Same for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:09 AM
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Is Jennifer Connelly an 8 to men? I'd like to know why. Her style?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:06 AM
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Well for me my ideal 10 is Monica Bellucci. She's beautiful facially and really nice mannerisms with great proportions and style. I don't think she's got diminishing returns and for example Vinetria is less attractive than Monica to me and in her case (Vinetria's) there's diminishing returns imo. But then Jennifer Conelly is not thaat attractive to me as I consider her leaning to plain and not as feminine. For example read comments under this video: https://youtu.be/rJO78pClT8c People seemingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:05 AM
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Yes, I understand. I don't rate people 1-10 personally in my life. I'm just sort of using it to point out a certain threshold of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:46 AM
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Hmm, I actually wonder how men view these kind of older women relationships. I once liked a boy that was a little younger than me (2 years, but formative period I was 20 he 18) and I felt like he always tried to impress me and it made me feel like maybe right think for him was to date someone his age. Talking specifically about LTR would you say there are different dynamics compared to younger woman-older man or same age?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:58 PM
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Well from the thread I've gotten is mostly because yes, men don't want to be on their tip toes for dating someone really really good looking and would prefer to have a nicer time. As well as most really good looking girls usually having a set of undesirable traits and if they are insta models they can often have an overproduced beauty that is not "real" attractive. Oh and many more traits being more important than just looks for a stable relationship. You said you are very attractive so I'd like…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:34 AM
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Well, but there are women in my family that have had children at 45 (and men's fertility and sperm health declines with age too btw). Both genders' attractiveness decrease with age as I consider both women and men to look better 20-35. Men don't care a lot about income and stability like women do, they do care, though, not necessarily the highest earning women being then attractive to them just 'cause money, but they'd like someone that doesn't starve or is completely dependent financially of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:05 PM
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Jesus, those stories are awful lol Can you describe his normal everyday personality? I'd like to know if there are signs he is that way behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:35 PM
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Yes, the ones I was really compatible with one was a little older and we went out sometimes. He even cancelled trips to go with me it was so sweet as I didn't think I deserved it lol it made me a little uncomfortable. The other one was a high school boy (we were both senior year) and he was so sweet lol I'd never imagine him to be that way because he was the "hottest guy", he'd always help me out with assignments, when we went to those class round trips he'd make sure I was safe and my friends o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:28 PM
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Do you really think men as a whole are that way? That's so grim... When I talk to men they are just normal, like girls are too, just nice people. It's hard to imagine they are incredibly mischievous and only want sex all the time. At the high of the pandemic I saw lots of people talking that way (both men and women) and I was worried about it being true, but then life went on and people became real again, It's so hard to believe everyone is so mean spirited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:12 PM
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I grew up in poor life conditions (neglect) and developed strong avoidant traits that I can remember having since I was a very little girl. Once I got in college and saw "what real people where like" I knew there was something wrong with the way I was and I had been up to that point, so I've been working on myself and getting out of my comfort zone and seem to be getting better. Most were incompatible with me as I strongly lean to a certain group of personality traits, but because I was that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:00 PM
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Hmm I guess I was wrong in that post then, I said that having those women in mind because they are really pretty to me. So I guess it wouldn't be a halo on anyone. I don't have thick eyebrows either they're like medium and rounded. I mean it's still a halo to me as it makes those women more memorable to me. Maybe wouldn't if they weren't as good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:28 AM
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Uh, I formulated my question really badly, haha, sorry. What I wanted to ask (that I didn't at all lol) is what is the lowest attractiveness level as in really attractive woman, but not enough to be a famous influencer that flies the world with rich an famous men. So I guess what I wanted to ask is actually the highest attractiveness level a very attractive everyday (not famous or billionaire) man could usually date. Would you say there's a point where maybe a woman inexperience would make the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:52 AM
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Haha I meant something like this: https://i.redd.it/6k2qb1ptfas61.gif So yes, someone that seems trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:39 AM
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What would you say is the lowest attractiveness level of a very attractive everyday (as in not famous billionaire) man's dating poll? Can you name some names or show me pictures?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:13 AM
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As long as "dynamics being much better" is not because they'd go on to mistreat me or look down on me, I'm fine with that. Would you say men can date women less attractive than themselves and not have a feeling of settling in their mind, but rather actually actively choosing women less attractive than themselves because is what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:11 AM
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What would you consider a mediocre woman looks wise in my age range (early 20s)? Would you say a really high trust face and voice is part of the approachability factor? I do have those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:58 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:53 AM
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I can see what you said. Maybe they'd feel more comfortable if they have some leverage and not have to be in their absolute best behavior all the time out of fear their super attractive girlfriend with many prospects would leave. Lol I hope I'm not an emotional settle, that's so sad. Can I ask you something btw now that you went there? One of these days a friend showed me a video of a man on tiktok that gives dating advice to men and he said men don't like women that make them feel uncomfortable…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:52 AM
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I've never had any kind of sex. I'm at least 95% sure (as you can never be certain of people's real intentions) they thought of me as LTR "material" as that's the way they pursued me and the way they talked of me to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:11 AM
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I think it can definitely weight someone down and doom their perspective. I've noticed most men are just normal lol just like women. Not terrible, perfect or losers. Just normal people that are trying to do the best they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:50 AM
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