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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 04:49 AM
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gianttribble/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 04:58 AM
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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:52 PM
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gianttribble/r/askTRP30/07/15 10:50 PM
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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:10 PM
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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:46 PM
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Question for RedPillgianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 08:31 PM
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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:50 PM
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Discussiongianttribble/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:07 PM
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I have a Napoleon complex so I prefer short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:25 PM
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I've seen OP in libertarian subs. ?? o_o
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:24 PM
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I personally pissed away my college years being a beta bitch and focusing on getting good grades and securing an internship. I did this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:35 PM
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'80s teen movies were right. "Nerds" don't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:24 PM
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Right, I also agree that TRP can be a stepping stone toward bigger and better things. In fact I think TRP is best as a stepping stone. It helped me recognize lies in my life that I've been fed as well. But now I'm more purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:17 PM
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It improves not his confidence or appearance but his social skills. Which in turn improves his confidence. The Cathedral would like you to believe it's the opposite way 'round, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:15 PM
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Can confirm. I know a guy around that height who regularly bangs hotties. Like if I were single I would have no chance in hell of dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:15 PM
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If you have no talent, intelligence or physical attributes, you can still cultivate courage, fitness as best you can, find the best blue collar job you can, and a low wit, move to a favorable geographic location and daygame via the numbers game - approaching tens of thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:13 PM
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One of the things that bothers me the most about the BP mainstream is how they try to take down those who seek self-improvement. Alpha and beta are absolutely relative. Everyone, even the lowest omega, has room for improvement. It's pretty Cathedral and fatlogic to believe that only the "elect" can succeed (because, privilege) and that the rest of us are all "sinners". That's where PUAhate came from. PUAhate emerged from the slackers who made a pretense of game while having no real inner game an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:08 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Yes I've changed in various ways, like becoming more proficient in laundry and reducing the cholesterol in my diet. I think we both have changed. It's weird. I haven't had problems lately, just brushing conflicts under the rug right now and focusing on my own interests (Fitness, music etc). When a conflict arises I try to defuse it by changing the topic to something we both like, such as animals. thanks to everyone's thoughts on this matter.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 07:17 PM
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He does. I do not withdraw or dread contact with him. But it's like he has some trouble comprehending things. We have been together for almost a decade. It's that he has trouble communicating his feelings and intentions in a way that I can understand. Like I say, I want to wear a bikini and he says go ahead! in a way like it sounds like he is angry. He refuses to even look at it. He tells me one thing and does another. It is like biting into a hamburger and tasting ice cream. I don't believe in …
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 04:18 PM
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I don't even fully grok what resenting someone means but if it means I don't like him of course I like him. He's an awesome dude. I like him it just takes a long time for those messages to sink through. An extremely long time. Of course I ask him how he feels all the time but he doesn't answer in a straightforward manner. Since I am not a psychic, I feel it does more damage to repeatedly ask him.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 04:00 PM
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He doesn't tell me when he feels bad. I don't even know how that would show. That's it. I'm just going to try to listen to and do whatever he says no matter whether or not I feel it is rational or not. I will not wear a two piece bathing suit. Just out of respect for him. I'm not sure what emotions I feel either. Sometimes I can tell when I am angry. sometimes I can't. I've gone for 3-4 days without eating without "feeling" hunger. Take that as you will. I think that when he says stuff like "we'…
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 03:39 PM
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I did say it politely, but it takes a lot of time. Once, it took him 2.5 years to do something. Things take time. I have to remember this, and breathe. I don't understand what makes people feel bad. I cannot comprehend it.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 02:50 PM
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How do I tell what behaviors are annoying, selfish or bitchy?
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/15 01:59 PM
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You might see men working on them, for the most part, but how do you know that it was men designing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 04:57 AM
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Exactly. Talking about race isn't racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 03:53 AM
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I can't imagine how many pathogens are spread amongst the population through Tinder and Grindr On a more serious note, one musician in my social circle is a younger yuppie, and I've heard her use that word: fuckboy. I'm older: I didn't know wtf it meant. I used to think it meant a nerdy guy like Steve Urkel or Napoleon Dynamite. To me, it is apparent that hookup culture militates against women's rights as well as men's rights. It benefits apex alpha males and alpha females to the detriment of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 03:40 PM
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I've learned so many secrets of parents, friends, family of friends, acquaintances that many don't want others to know because of both things. A lot of stuff they don't even know I know because I followed up on stuff here and there. hahaha so it's like being a hairdresser
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:12 PM
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I hear ya. Just looking out for your future job safety glad to know that you're being safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:11 PM
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I mean what if a would-be employer spotted you coming in and out of the brothel, and they knew it was a brothel via locker room gossip. This may be passed on to catty women in HR departments, who communicate with those in other HR departments at HR bars / brunch spots. Just like finance guys disproportionately listen to EDM music and wear blazers with jeans on Saturdays, programmers have their own coffeeshops where they do freelance work, there are known PR bars, and graphic designers go to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:01 PM
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huehuehuehuehue t-bag lololololololol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 09:38 PM
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hehehhehehehe sex is a sport hehehehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 09:06 PM
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Gender relations in society run much deeper (huehuehuehue) than just porking someone. I guess most folks here focus more on gender relations in society rather than the actual deed itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 09:05 PM
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Hi MrsPound111, Do you feel that working in this field is going to affect you negatively later if you seek a career change?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:00 PM
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There should be an age to consent to sex. founds out about this and the boy is convicted of statutory rape, and put on the registered sex offender list for 25 years. This should not be the result. It should be a misdemeanor at most. Sex with a 14 year old is no way like sex with a 4 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:34 PM
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Ceteris paribus, a black guy has a higher chance of living in a low income country than a white guy - on an international level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 01:48 AM
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Thanks for the correction.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/15 12:48 AM
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To clarify, I had a diagnosis of autism in childhood, but identify as Aspergers in adulthood. But people can tell, by talking to me, that something isn't right about me. The reason I mention this, is because it is a factor. I'm trying to humble myself hardcore and get rid of ego, stop being selfish and know if what I'm doing is selfish. That is why I am coming for help and asking from a variety of perspectives ranging from the red pill to the blue pill. I want to be less uppity and a good person…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 10:01 PM
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I do respect him, but he has also developed some health issues that have made him lash out and take out his anger / anxiety onto people and society in general. These issues have been getting incrementally worse. He has also experienced unemployment recently. He, in general, feels that things are going downhill. I think he may be having a midlife crisis. I may also be having a midlife crisis i.e. hitting 'the wall'. When we met, I was much younger and had been struggling with the low-talker boy, …
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 07:55 PM
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44 Nobel Laureates who are women, with over 12 of them in the scientific prizes. There are 10 black Nobel Laureates, 12% of Americans are black. 50% are women. Sounds like the same ratio as the Nobel laureates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 06:34 PM
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He has many positives; they were not listed in this post. Crap. I have presented a one-sided view. In essence, I am 95% compatible with him, except on these matters. I can list the ways. First of all we spend plenty of time playing acoustic metal covers (old school metal). We also hang out in public parks to feed wildlife and stuff like that. We're both teetotal and watch Trek. We both collect plastic animal figures. We try to be antifragile but have arrived at this conclusion through different …
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 06:01 PM
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Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:43 PM
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I tried asking him and he gets weird about it. when I ask him he says 'you should know' and he rages, even knowing I'm on the spectrum.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 04:33 PM
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lel
/r/askTRP03/08/15 03:21 PM
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Hey, I hear ya and understand your concerns, but I assure you, that I am consulting folks in the health care field. Thanks. The problem is that he does not want me to wear "hot" clothes around other men when he has to note that other men are looking at me. He's fine with me wearing them on my time. Quite frustrating. I mean he rages when I ask him his opinion on a bathing suit. I cannot ask him if it's cute or not. :( He says it looks bad on me. WTF.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 03:17 PM
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All right. I'm going to listen to what he says - but with a grain of salt. He also doesn't get how styles have changed and how "booty shorts" don't indicate sexual availability. I feel that he's getting me to dress like I'm in my 40s / 50s. But I don't want to wear a bikini to be sexy. I want to wear one to be able to take a shit easily and I had hitherto felt unduly restrained, in terms of shitting, due to wearing one-piece bathing suits with the little skirt part.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 03:08 PM
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I think you've nailed it - age gap. I didn't think that (30s to 40s) was that big of a problem, tho. Btw. Are there any resources that deal with stuff like that? I see a bunch about cultural differences but like, that's about it.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 02:57 PM
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Thanks for the advice, and concern, and don't worry - I haven't taken roids (just asked a question there). My form of health insurance is different, to say the least. It's a complicated story...
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 02:53 PM
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No way; I have no issue with him hanging out with his friends and stuff and would help him home from a party if he couldn't get home by himself.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 02:52 PM
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Yes but a lot of my girlfriends from my college graduation cohort have drunk the SJW kool-aid wholesale including stuff like fat acceptance and blaming their credit-card debt on the "right wing". I do ask them for advice, but there is a poor signal to noise ratio. We are in our late 20s to early 30s so a lot of folks are having the "epiphany" and searching for a beta male and / or female. I have become more and more disconnected from meatspace social groups, outside of my band and folks at work,…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 02:42 PM
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Actually, I am asking for skills on how to cope with his foibles. I would like very much for my relationship to work. I am wondering if, if I ignore some of the things he says, I'm being a dick.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 02:41 PM
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He can suss out people's intentions and tell when someone is a bad apple. He can pretty much communicate with anyone; for example, I've seen him communicate with my family members better than I can. He's a comforting presence and commands respect in a lot of 20- and 30- something men and women in our social circle like low-talkers, closeted / bitter gay guys, recent immigrants, bitter SJWs coming off the carousel, hipster men with daddy issues, and feckless potheads, when he appears. Because he'…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 02:27 PM
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Yes or I try to be as comforting as I can
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 02:24 PM
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How do I stop doing this. I try to boost his self esteem all the time. But rather than lowering my self esteem, it's knocking me from left field in terms of what I should do and what not to do. I am fine with someone saying, for example (dude you are fat or your nose is crooked) since I take it objectively. When I ask him: why are you saying this he says oh, you don't care what I have to say I'm just going to shut up. It's painful for someone who takes everything literally. He knows I will not d…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 01:58 PM
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Right; I like him and am ok with him 99.5% of the time. We have a lot of awesome times together. Like that time when we played acoustic Iron Maiden and Metallica covers. We both like stuffed toys and Star Trek. I showed him how to use recording programs in order to create music on the computer. He showed me guitar tricks, alternate voicings of chords, how to play drums, all kinds of awesome stuff. What I brought up, was literally 0.05% of the time (negativity). I did not mean to sound disrespect…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 01:56 PM
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I'm a washed up band chick, lol and he used to as well as socializes with people in his age group (a different crowd than mine) who play in bands. He does voice many ignorant opinions about the music industry, which has changed greatly since he was in the scene in the '80s. For example his ass used to rage against "downloaders" and now he's asking me to help him out with bittorrent.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the advice.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 11:59 AM
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We have been together about 8 years and I have other compromising elements (Asperger's, severe). I said the SAT thing because I don't think I'm smarter than him but there might be a difference in the types of intelligence we have (multiple intelligences theory).
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 11:57 AM
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I understand that his opinions are different than mine but when I talk to him about it, he jumps all the way to the extreme and becomes self loathing. He says that I'm hammering him. He says it crushes his spirit when I state the chain of events that led to me not having a bikini and therefore avoiding the beach this summer. I have sensory issues where I cannot wear a one-piece but was forced to wear it all my life because I was overweight. Now he wants me to boost his self esteem by listing thi…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 06:18 AM
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Well I am trying my best to respect him. I'm working my hardest man. I'm not smarter than him. Maybe I have a better job but that's it. Look, money doesn't matter. But he does put me down a lot. Like he says "why the hell did you spend (a large amount of money) on that". Which is painful. I do like classic rock but he says things like black metal is crap death metal takes no talent you should be like my friend's Metallica cover band black metal is satanic and negative (He's into Zen Buddhism and…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/15 06:10 AM
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I mean I'm talking about mainland Chinese society and a very specific segment, maybe just my family. And I don't know how far the BP rabbit hole goes, either. My grandma was an accountant, a lot of men in my family are unemployed. My mom doesn't really wear makeup etc... I mean divorce and hookup culture weren't... really part of life there. But the relationships and life in general are very beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 10:48 PM
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o_O
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 07:29 PM
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um they go to r/feminism ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 07:26 PM
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The modal ethnicity and culture that women in Miami are targeting is probably different from the modal ethnicity and culture that women in the northeast are trying to attract. It's not just Anglo vs Hispanic or black vs white either. There's also specific microcultures within each city. SWPLs, for example, prefer Taylor Swift and thin hipster men, and proles prefer Pamela Anderson (female) and The Rock (male).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 07:10 PM
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FFO In Flames: Check out Sacramentum, Dissection, mid-period Dark Tranquillity or later Carcass albums such as Heartwork
/r/askTRP30/07/15 09:06 PM
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An album like Transilvanian Hunger is pretty awesome and I'd say a huge amount of people say it's noisy. But yea, I get where you're coming from. I like a lot of the mainstream death metal that has a lot of groove along with aggression, such as Dying Fetus or Nile.
/r/askTRP30/07/15 08:24 PM
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You have to major in something vocationally valid.
/r/askTRP30/07/15 06:52 PM
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Thanks. I should have known I was dealing with hipster weaklings as soon as I set foot in metal archives. They front like alphas, though, but offer little guidance to n00bs until you get into their inner circle, like popular female cliques in high school.
/r/askTRP30/07/15 05:19 PM
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Yeah, I've also noticed strong similarities between Eliot Rodgers and Burzum >.< . ♂
/r/askTRP30/07/15 05:18 PM
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You can probably order melatonin online
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:19 PM
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ambien. melatonin is nonprescription in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:34 PM
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People do not get addicted to melatonin. You have to take 1mg or less. It's a natural compound secreted by the body. I have never gotten withdrawal from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:22 PM
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Not losing frame for me, in my limited conception of the idea, is not letting other people project their frame on me and maintaining focus. I don't fully understand it, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:21 PM
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I have insomnia as well. Try melatonin. I hear ya about insomnia killing gainz (on a fitness journey too). You don't need TRT if you stay fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:05 PM
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There are many neurodiverse men who date neurodiverse women. I view my Asperger's as similar to being gay, queer etc. It's just something that society doesn't accept yet. But you have to also remember not to break frame. I've been rejected explicitly because I'm not neurotypical. I hear ya. It's as bad as saying "I was born with a penis". That's why, try dating neurodiverse people. I broke frame and had an autistic meltdown yesterday. Just have to pick up and keep going. Keep working out. Work o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:01 PM
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I think they're also trying to make it "the norm" for citizens to be on some kind of medication at all times to provide a steady drip of money to shareholders. It's probably also the reason the gov't also tries to get people to take birth control pills, a repeating medication, over various kinds of contraceptive implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:45 PM
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I'm wondering why so many young Americans are on psych meds these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:34 PM
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Some of Rollo's writing is very insightful especially since a lot of young men are suffering in this economy. Similarly, although I dislike corny feminist memes and tumblrinas, there are very insightful feminist writers out there such as bell hooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:27 PM
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I think you're meeting the anger phase folks. TRP, as well as feminism, have far deeper roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:25 PM
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If 75% of women in a given area are married by 24 that does not mean the median age of marriage is 25. It would mean that the median age of marriage is under 24, either it could be 18, or 22, I don't know what the variance is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:07 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern Where I am (big blue-city area, similar to where Roosh and Roissy grew up) the average age at first-marriage for college educated people hovers very close to 35-40. I see ads for IVF on public transportation quite frequently. As goes California (and NYC, and DC) as goes the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:40 PM
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Right, I have also heard that late marriage (after age 21 or thereabouts) was an innovation in societies within the Hajnal line in Western Europe after ~1200 AD, and that early marriage was more characteristic of Eastern Europe and non-Western societies. I was not sure whether or not Italy was within the Hajnal line, though, since the few articles I read about it discussed Northwest Europe. But even in the case of marrying at 25 or so - that's pretty different from today's custom of marrying at …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:34 PM
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Thanks for the info. TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:16 PM
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I think cognitive dissonance is what hamstering means
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:25 PM
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Yeah exactly. I think there is a class system as well as the question of 'American Nations' i.e., regional cultural differences. I think that much of modern society does militate against proles and works against prole culture / lifestyle to their detriment. For example food additives that make people get very fat if they are lower in conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:23 PM
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I think the statement that being nice to your man is bad, is disinformation i.e. cattiness to reduce competition just like the bad advice given to men (be yourself etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:17 PM
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This is a really sticky issue and cuts at a major issue in American society that is not really discussed, but education isn't education per se. It's shorthand for class and / or "caste".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:47 PM
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The officer vs basic soldier thing could be a socioeconomic class difference as well. Like yuppies vs proles in civilian society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:44 PM
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Yeah I appreciate the ability to vote as well as to get the morning after pill which come from feminism though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:43 PM
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It's both men and women. And it's not just the disability. I was put in a certain category (beta) and then told to "accept it" because it's "what I am". Not everyone said this but enough to where I questioned my own sense about this. It was like a shit test from both popular men and popular women. In essence: I lost frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 10:13 PM
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No, it was because I was "branded" as an unattractive person to serve as their "foil". As an example: when I got thinner than people who were thin all their lives, laughter turned to open hostility. People can also tell from talking to me that I have a learning disability / autistic spectrum and because of this, I probably don't "deserve to be pretty" according to a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:59 PM
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I'm at work d00d I'm gonna pop into the IRC when I get home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:51 PM
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This is actually pretty interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:48 PM
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I think it's that fashion models are around 16. I mean socially, in the modern day people would prefer to have a college degree. But you have to remember that Romeo and Juliet were 14. Historically, people married much earlier. Our brain has not caught up in evolution to our society. That's why "cougars" of both genders are targeting the very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:54 PM
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Yes, definitely but some of the most honest beauty advice I've gotten was from post wall women (age 50+). People on the hamster wheel ranging from "hot" young men to "hot ranging to plain" young women are on the kool aid. People are also irrationally paranoid about women getting anorexia. Eating disorders are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:47 PM
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Never met a woman under 30 who was involuntarily celibate, or single, or without a date, or without a man in her life. If she was not having sex, or single, or dateless, it was always, ALWAYS, by choice. You didn't meet me when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:39 PM
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I would also say there is a lot of social pressure to not settle down with betabux at 21, especially for women who are bad at socializing and can't read between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:35 PM
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"lift, make money, find your purpose in life..." but do not go into express detail of how to do to those things. There are bloggers who do these things who are TRP affiliated and have fitness and diet blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:30 PM
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More like neither. I'm not really aware of social norms including gender norms and have to be spoon-fed everything due to being on the autism spectrum. I suck at social interactions but I'm just good at making fun of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:15 PM
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My mom is neurotypical but she was raised in a culture that had more tradcon elements where women do not talk like that as much. In tradcon culture such as Asia or Latin America, or even France, it's ok to tell someone they're fat. At least, I had the advantage of being aware that I was fat. Some people don't even have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:04 PM
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It's like guys telling beta males that being a nerd is their destiny, instead of to lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:59 PM
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This is very true. I wear make up every workday now and stick to a diet. There is also a lot of b.s. in the world of diets and I had to sort through a lot of the b.s. in order to find a diet that worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:56 PM
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I do not think good men are off the market by 30 in NYC. I think that 35 is more of a limit in those kinds of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:51 PM
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Yes the "fat" thing is actually the most egregious example of this as well as people saying it has to be a secret that they wear hair extensions or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:51 PM
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Everything from fat activism, the anti make up movement and cultural snark against Venezuelan beauty queens and K-pop stars for their honesty about plastic surgery, is weaponized in order to reduce competition. Also some minority women play upon one's sense of racial pride by telling them that make up and beauty culture are "Eurocentric". The tradition in Asian culture, as well as French culture for example, of telling someone fat that they're fat, is seen as sexist. People who can't read betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:48 PM
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Yeah, it also goes way deeper than a few catty comments. If it was shittalk qua shittalk it would have been fine. But we were lectured against the corset in school (using all sorts of deconstruction and hermeneutics) and then it struck me that the people railing against the corset were probably wearing Spanx themselves. Due to my Aspergers I'm not perceptive of these things. Actually I went against feminist dogma and asked about what the top sellers in the beauty supply section were, and I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:30 PM
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Well I didn't date until my late 20s and am an omega female. As someone who, sorry if this is NSFW - hit puberty early, I didn't start looking decent until my postwall years. Retin-A and glycolic acid are a lifeline. I have related this tale for quite some time. It could also be because I have Aspergers syndrome and not just due to attractiveness. I relate to the advice given to beta men in TRP. I was given disinformation about beauty when I was younger by other women as well as men. This, I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:17 PM
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Women who are similar to those guys want to fuck those guys. Also this group of people hangs out in nightclubs a lot and is often lampooned on shows like Jersey Shore, Real Housewives and Love and Hip Hop.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:04 PM
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It depends on class as well as specific subculture. The majority of NYC and DC residents are known as proles and high proles and they marry at 30. Proles are low income workers, but high proles are middle class people (cops, firefighters, nurses, etc) who do not require a graduate degree. There are some distinctions, like a programmer or writer is not really a prole even if he doesn't make much money, but prolishness is a culture. If you make $80,000, but you are allowed to have a visible tattoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:01 PM
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Jocks are these guys Also, they're not just restricted to schools. My band mate and I (beta nerds) were walking through the middle of the city on a Saturday night, which is douchebag night. Observing the scene, we saw Uber minivans pull up and release large groups of clone girls (jocks' female counterpart). Then, a group of jocks appeared and threw a glass bottle into the street. It broke, cars kept driving over it, and tons of rats appeared because they smelled sugar from the bottle. The rats r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:47 PM
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An affluent jock who is interested in settling down is an AB guy. A jock who plays the field is an AF guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:32 PM
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Yes in coastal areas such as LA, NYC and DC the average age of marriage is 30 rather than 25 even for those who do not attend college. The women in Sex and the City were seeking to get married by the age-40 deadline, which is normative in upper middle class areas in NYC, DC and other areas. However some demographics such as proles and people from immigrant stock see age 30 as the deadline. I used to chat with nighttime security guards out of boredom, and they frequently have more than one kid be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:30 PM
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It depends on your location and specific culture. If you are in Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe, the Caribbean, or the South, or you're religious in any area, it's going to be different from LA / NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:19 PM
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In a nutshell: Look up Douchebag, Guido and Ghetto for styles and behavioral patterns to emulate. Listen to rap on a regular basis in order to get the correct vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:20 AM
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Think "white" like Iggy Azalea is thinking "black". I would say it's probably a good move to emulate what popular Chicano guys are wearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:18 AM
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darker skinned Italian or Latino but reject some Indian or Middle Eastern guy, it is due to stereotypes in her head exactly. One solution could be: what are these Italian and Latino guys wearing, compared to what typical Indian guys are wearing? How do they conduct themselves? Many Latinos and Indians look similar to the untrained eye (white people who migrated to NYC after college). Not to sound stereotypical, but I would recommend a trip to the gym, the Ed Hardy and Affliction store and a hair…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:06 AM
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I don't think being a "hot blonde" in this context is solely about hair color.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:02 AM
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Right and the betas are pretty much screwed out of female attention as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 12:57 AM
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Please look at the previous thread about how beta men, especially Asian/Indian men, in general struggle more in blue state areas where many white male transplants are top 20% alpha types. Moreover it looks as though you're not really looking for a hair color qua hair color but a specific type (Dallas cheerleader, hot girl found in Playboy etc). There is a high SJW quotient in blue states and there is more of a beauty queen type culture in red states such as Texas and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:52 PM
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A lot of SJW discourse comes from graduate school lingo that has trickled down to undergraduate classes. SJW starts Freshman year and grows until peak SJW at age 29 or so when they get married or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:46 PM
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Zoning in on the word millennial being used here: The generation older than Millennials had Sex in the City, Roissy in DC and "The End of Men". Post-wall women were asking where all the good men have gone and why nobody told them about declining fertility. TRP was the response to that question. Men in that generation relied on the politically incorrect humor in shows like Simpsons and South Park to skirt around questions about a changing society and their own roles within it. TRP and TBP were li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:43 PM
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I put purple because I've read the TRP sidebar and agree with a large amount of the material there. Moreover, I have read Rollo, Heartiste and other TRP staples. However, PUA is not in my personal interest as a postwall woman. I believe that the imbalance in modern society runs far deeper than TRP / hypergamy and stuff like that, and have tradconnish tendencies; however, I have no answers and am simply here to debate and learn. I have very different political and economic views from many people …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:28 PM
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There is a larger FOB demographic in blue states because there are more bilingual signs, job opportunities etc. This creates a greater stereotype against Asian / Indian guys as well as certain Hispanic and African ethnicities. Moreover, large cities attract alpha males who can gather a soft harem. These alpha males are the top 20% of white men in terms of height and physical strength, the typical Asian man in blue-state tech employment is not as athletic (the exception being men who adopt the 't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:55 PM
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I believe that racial prejudice (specifically: the police state) is a bigger problem in society than gender prejudice, but a lot of the cultural stuff that people from immigrant backgrounds face is not precisely race-qua-race related. I feel that a lot of it comes from having a tradcon upbringing that is maladaptive in modern, Westernized society. For example a guy born in India might run 'beta game' i.e. the SMV version 1.0 instead of the new, hypergamous version 2.0.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:37 PM
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If they ask me for a date or whether or not I am married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:37 PM
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Thanks for the additional perspective. I actually think this is cool and good for a lot of PUAs purposes overseas (an exotic lay).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:39 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:54 PM
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LOOOOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:20 PM
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Ah I'm in and out because I'm getting ready to go out. >< Sry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:20 PM
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Yes exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:00 PM
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LOL shades of Portnoy's Complaint
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 03:55 PM
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These guys would send them multiple texts a day, drive them around and buy them gifts. The girls would laugh with me about how pathetic they were. Others told me that they had dated local men for months, and never slept with them or only slept with them a few times because it didn’t “feel right.” These were the same girls that I had banged within an hour of meeting them. Chances are they're saying this to make you feel better but they do not view you as a legitimate partner, just an exotic lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:48 AM
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That's fucked up, a hooker would not do black guys? Is this in the US? I mean in some Asian countries people are ignorant and think black guy = giant wiener but obviously nobody here believes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:03 AM
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This is insulting. Some guys can't even get the time of day from 1/10 women who are very heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:00 AM
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Seriously, it depends on where you are. In my area Goths are very rare. Not to be racist, but most metalheads around here are recent Latin American immigrants or like hipsters from out of state. If you are Black, White, Indian/Asian and Goth you better polish up your Spanish or otherwise acclimate to the cultural situation. I have Emo tendencies and go to the gigs sometimes. Me and low talker boy were the only non Latin American people there, actually it was also solidly FOBs as in I did not hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:38 AM
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Aspergers, repeated rejection, friendzone, and lack of inner Game. I was a third wheel in interactions and desexualized. I've actually been rejected for stuff like being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:15 AM
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I started to embrace it after being out of shape for a while. After I started wearing makeup, doing my hair, and getting in shape it was like night and day (the way the public treated me). I mean after I started my fitness journey some people who are heavy gave me more distance though because fitness is considered shallow. Moreover I stopped wearing baggy clothes and brought my sartorial choices more in synchrony with the general public by shopping at stores such as Forever-21 instead of continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:00 PM
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actually this is a huge reason many religious women say that modest dress makes them a better feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:58 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:57 PM
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Many, many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:50 PM
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what if the closest doctor who is permitted to do an abortion is 2 states away There are stores around here that sell abortion pills under the table, but not every part of the US has that luxury. It's called misoprostol, some corner stores sell it and you have to say stuff like you want your period to come. It's just like marijuana which is under prohibition, many libertarians are against marijuana prohibition. Also, birth control is not as available as it is in the US as it is in other countrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:49 PM
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I probably have sex once every couple of months because my fiance has a lower sex drive and I lost my virginity in my late 20s. I don't really have a sex drive, but I have a drive toward playing guitar. It's not condom availability either that's the problem. There's a Laundromat around here that has a free condom jar. I ordered some birth control pills on Ebay and they just sit in the house lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:39 PM
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No fatties in Germany? I heard there were tons of fatties there no offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:35 PM
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Hey, I hear ya. It's hard to date when you are in a subculture too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:34 PM
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I've met very few poly people around here but there is a lot of 'cheating', and it's very looked down upon despite happening a lot. The 'refusing to take that final step of committing' is also very common. Cheating is viewed as 'dirty dog' or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:30 PM
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People say they have a thug passion (seeking alpha).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:15 PM
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you don't think this has anything to do with the lack of a free market in birth control pills and abortions in most part of the country? And not everyone is sharp enough to know about All Day Chemist and other fine websites. Not everyone goes to doctors and stuff. I agree that it takes two to tango and part of this is due to a breakdown in values. but there's another side to this story too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:57 AM
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I guess my relationship is BP, although I am more purple in terms of my views of humanity. We have different political views, he leans more social democratic although I'm trying to get him to read The Road to Serfdom or other primer. But we have common interests (like Star Trek, animal related documentaries and music). We do a lot of stuff together. I share recording gear like mics and cables with him. Sometimes I give my fiance a $20. We also share things like extra value meals at fast food res…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 11:14 PM
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Blame the system, not the people. Not everyone has a lot of self control. But imo, from a blue pill perspective, anyone making abortion and birth control harder to get is complicit in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:16 PM
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This is really anecdotal and possibly regional (I'm in a blue region on the east coast). I think it's actually linked to religion in that they make it harder to get an abortion - anywhere. Blue pill explanation: There's an abortion clinic near me but it's frequently harassed by protesters. I can understand why people don't want to go through publicly walking into a place known for abortion, getting photographed and getting exposed on social media. A lot of people around here are also heavyset, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:55 PM
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It's like hypergamy, biological clock, alpha widowing and the 'end of men' rolled into one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:52 PM
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I think most people in the US now cohabitate with kids instead of marrying after having the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:50 PM
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Yeah also plenty of tall white men are nerds who get cucked when their wives go on all-girls trips to the Caribbean especially when you add the skinny part
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:31 PM
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If running and lifting is not for you then you have to do pushups and situps or even power yoga and power walking. As long as you are active in some way. Btw. I hear ya on the height thing. But you have it much better than a lot of us. I have a Napoleon complex and if I were single I would only marry or date men under 5'6" or so. Also I took a supplement called glucosamine that helped me increase my height by a small amount, though, but I'm still a runt in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:29 PM
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Accutane and lifting. Btw. you are not short. One alpha I know is 5'2" I think. I got rid of keloids on my body with ScarAway patches and normal scars with Retin-A and hydroquinone. Oily skin is also, paradoxically, caused by dry skin. Go to r/skincareaddiction If you are washing your face with soap... guess what the source of oiliness is, yes the soap. Use a facial wash like Clean and Clear or Dove for Men and a light gel moisturizer afterward, Clean and Clear has one. More than one alpha I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:12 PM
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15-20 years ago people were not open about wearing girdles at all, except for older people. It was all about the belly shirt and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 06:02 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 05:02 PM
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yea but the feminists were against girdles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:04 PM
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I wonder why BP people have the disability rights schtick under their civil-rights umbrella but they are so down on autistic people and those who struggle socially - getting something that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:56 PM
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Like CursedLemon said, not getting what you initially wanted But as the song goes you can't always get what you want but sometimes, you get what you need I feel that most people might know what they want, but they don't know what they need or what to do to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:27 PM
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Look up thank feminism, I guess, or tales of male feminists. Blue pill isn't going to call itself blue pill because the Cathedral is the main religion, and things that are dominant go unnamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:22 PM
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Modern society has this viewpoint that people just stop growing when they're 21, and that who they're going to be is who they always were. I think that people continue to evolve after this point, particularly given the circumstances of modern society. But because psychological maturation and physical maturation are not on the same schedule, people need to choose the cake when it's half-baked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:06 PM
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Well you know my opinion, I feel that people are always evolving and that settling can be a good thing. Because it is about growing together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:50 PM
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Yeah and people don't have an accurate perception of their SMV a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 03:45 PM
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I agree with this. People are taught - men and women - to think of themselves as super awesome because apparently, low self esteem is the source of all evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 03:10 PM
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Many cultures rely on grandparents and don't have stay at home moms. Japan and Korea does not = traditional cultures because a lot of the gender discourse in their cultures was influenced by the US after WWII. Being raised by your grandparents is the norm in China, and rural African American culture, to this day because women always had to work. My grandmother and great-grandmother worked full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:25 PM
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People in some parts of Asia tend to have a slimmer build than people in the US. So do the French and some other Southern European cultures compared to Americans, who are mostly of Northwest European and / or West African descent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:14 PM
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Except that stores around here ranging from boutiques to street vendors sell tons and tons of extra-strength girdles i.e. waist trainers. People don't want to be fat, and they demonstrate this by strapping themselves into rubber tubes in 90 degree weather. I think Kim Kardashian started this trend but the revealed preference is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:09 PM
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I agree with this and there is a lot of research that shows that many aspects of our obesity crisis (the poor and rural being fatter than the affluent and urban) are related to structural and not personal deficiencies. While I'm not sure "food deserts" are as big of a factor as the media makes it out to be, the preponderance of shitty food in lower income areas as well as the ubiquity of high fructose corn syrup due to federal corn subsidies makes things worse than they could be. I bet the obesi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:03 PM
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Yes, you determine your worth to yourself but is that worth an obol in the agora?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 01:58 PM
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I would say, many women would say that about husbands as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 01:57 PM
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http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/relationships-marriage-and-health http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18marriage-t.html?_r=0 http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/01/economist-explains-0
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 01:56 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:30 AM
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https://heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:55 AM
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Foreign-born Africans the most educated immigrant group in the US http://www.tadias.com/10/15/2014/census-foreign-born-africans-most-educated-immigrants-in-u-s/ Mexican men have more testosterone in their body than Caucasian and African men, African men have more estrogen - Directly refutes the idea that African men are more masculine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17456570 South Asia is described by HBDers (especially in the '90s) as having a low IQ however it is a major source of technolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:52 AM
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There is a lot of literature on the benefits of simply being married long-term to any individual, as long as they are not abusive or vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:27 PM
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Right, this discussion is aimed at you. May I ask: Why do you feel this way (all or nothing?)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:24 PM
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I agree, it is not BP specific - many TRPers say this as well. The one thing that grinds my gears is the idea that "self esteem" and "self worth" are the be-all, end-all of things. I feel that this idea is very damaging. You do not determine your worth. The market does. Many markets; not just financial markets. The idea of self esteem afaik comes from depression therapy and is very specific. I agree that humans have some natural rights and value as free citizens, but it ends there. we must be ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:24 PM
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You're talking about a biological change, whereas the OP was discussing something subjective. Do we know where the maturity gyrus is located, which lobe it's in? Is there a quantifiable difference? For all we know, the increase in male brain size could simply be a maximization of neurons in Onan's masturbation area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:17 PM
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I don't think self-help books are shitty. I like self-help books.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:14 PM
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We are born as animals and we become humans by learning to use tools. Work in the macrocosmic world also works on the microcosm - the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:03 PM
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I am only giving my own perspective. It may not be adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:03 PM
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Except that a lot of the tenets of early HBD (esp. Rushton) have some serious holes and they have to retool it every couple of years to fit in with current knowledge that right-wingers have of various races and ethnicities. Before the 1950s, Asian / Indian men were not viewed as feminine, but the feminine stereotype began to apply when the powers that be created the three-bears theory of race: Asians were brainier, Africans were brawnier, and Europeans were just right. I wonder why this fits in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:51 PM
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nice, seize the day
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:46 PM
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I'm your height and generally do not show interest in tall men at all due to my Napoleon complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:45 PM
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Yes, I have dated a guy shorter than me and I'm pretty small. I have a Napoleon complex, being the runt of my family, and pretty much only like guys under 5'8" or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:44 PM
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I think there is a happy median between the modern encouragement of hypergamy and the old-school concept of marrying someone your family knows very well. While putting up with someone's shit is not a good reason to marry someone, I think there's something to be said about marrying someone who may not be ideal on the surface, and growing together - reaching life's milestones together. I feel that there are real, intrinsic benefits to being married / in a relationship and some of them (financially…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:35 PM
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Did the bathroom have industrial-plaster walls and metal pee troughs, or was it a cozier type of bathroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:31 PM
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NABPALT
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:29 PM
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Well you've outed me, I was more of a simple reader of Rand and Reason at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:25 PM
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I wonder why blue-pillers think that some nebulous concept of inflated self-worth is so important compared to logic and reason. If someone is hitting you repeatedly with a stick and you aren't getting money out of it, it is more rational to get rid of the person. I don't grok what that has to do with "secure", "confident" and "self esteem". First of all, I know that I am as low as most of the hoi polloi milling about aimlessly on this planet so I have pretty low 'self esteem'. However people don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:24 PM
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Right, even when I was in my early 20s I was aware of my low SMV (so I did not invest in dating) and was under no illusions as to how much my labor was worth in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:21 PM
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Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:19 PM
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why does it matter to you? I know that my existence is dogfood. I am well aware of this. We are all sacks of shit, full of shit. Men, women and androgynes. Knowing and accepting your omeganess is the first step to change; I don't think anyone is an alpha who thinks that they are an omega. I think this is a fallacy. Alpha is just a strategy that works for some people. Beta is another strategy that works for others. Just like some people like golden showers, it's just their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:01 PM
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What do you mean by this, and how is it a problem among young women as opposed to young men? My worth is determined by how much my labor is worth on the market, which fits supply and demand curves except for a few exceptions: ex-felons, illegal immigrants, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:58 PM
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My fiance makes less than I do, there is no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:57 PM
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Yeah I'm not saying that it means something totally different but only that there may be some differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:54 PM
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Lolol... nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:18 PM
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What's really weird is how jocks suddenly got into "geek culture" in a big way. I see jacked dudes with tribal tattoos rocking Marvel Comics shirts, sometimes even with a Marvel Comics tattoo. I saw a guy reading a stack of mangas on the bus. 15 years ago these guys would've been playing sports in the afternoon instead of doing that stuff. I see hot girls in cosplay voguing on Instagram like the next Kim Kardashian. These people used to scoff at nerd stuff and now they're jockin and sweatin Isaa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:05 PM
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Did you read the article on ROK? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:59 PM
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Somebody raised in a more conservative culture overseas (male or female) might be interested in more liberal fashion when they come to the US and it may or may not mean they are interested in more casual dating. It may not mean the same thing than when somebody from here does it. Check out the groups of H1B guys in their mid to late 20s drinking like college freshmen in mainstream clubs in major cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:56 PM
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Better to reign in hell...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:51 PM
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I would say that there is a certain educational level that does well with modern financial products, but the majority of the population cannot handle debt and credit. Unfortunately our society does not truly incentivize the idea of lifting as we climb. A lot of adults don't even know what compound interest is, which is awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:35 PM
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I read on Pew Forum that the percentage of people going online has gone from 50% to 90% over the past 10 years; maybe more people on the left side of the bell curve are being captured by regular comment boards. Computers have always been a presence in libraries and I've noticed an increase in non-library users online as of late. I mean their voices are valuable. Democratizing the net is awesome. But it comes at a cost. And that cost is the "For Dummies"-fication of comment boards. Tbh, Randi Lee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:16 PM
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Those all sound uncomfortable and potentially disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:13 PM
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How do people have sex in the back of a concert hall or in a busy party setting? Do they do it in the bathroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:10 PM
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If you aren't a neckbeard, you don't have to. Water finds its own level. Fit people attract other fit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:08 PM
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By luxury, I do not mean financial wealth but health and strength, which are not available to all. Debt satisfies us in the short term. But I say to you, how would it feel to be rich and old, and have lived your youth in poverty? To me, credit cards are about balance. I'd rather have Stormbringer than a bow-and-arrow and play defensive strategies all the time. Some people around here buy houses and other properties all-cash. But as a youth I was told that an inch of time was more valuable than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:02 PM
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Not everyone has that luxury. I mean, debt is probably like Stormbringer. It's a strong weapon but it kills you slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:54 PM
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Men seek hot women for the same reason women seek alpha men. The media has made men lust after Carmen Electra and women lust after alphas. It's all the 80% gunning for the top 20%. Both genders are fucked; the tradcons were onto something with the arranged marriages. If we engage in a continual arms race of alphaizing ourselves and racing to the top with workouts, plastic surgery and the like we'll end up dying of a steroid overdose like Zyzz.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:51 PM
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Halo is a game that is played by populars as well as nerds Fratboys might actually play more Halo so frattiness could be a confound here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:24 PM
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Many men of my acquaintance, who were alpha in their youth (they are musicians) are now married to "beta" women who are close in SMV to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:19 PM
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I grew up on Usenet and Slashdot. Seriously, this has got to be the tl;dr generation or as we used to say, 'in a nutshell'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:15 PM
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isn't topkek a candy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:12 PM
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Fuck it. I said kek as well as lel today
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:12 PM
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The terrible thing is that a woman who is like that, with the STEM degree, with the self-actualized identity, will still be considered low and viewed as horrible compared to a pretty girl who expresses herself solely through pop-culture references. And that's why I waffle between feminism (equalism?) and TRP. Because when a woman is a virgin until 24 and has a master's degree in STEM, she is considered to be a virago who has wasted her prime years. And when a woman is married to a man who calls …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:07 PM
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fatping = fat + fapping
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:03 PM
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The Rules was a PUA book for women from the '90s. The original book The Game was supposed to be a male version of The Rules. That's why PUA tactics are colloquially called Game. Red pill also says: Higgamous hoggamous, women are monogamous Hoggamous higgamous, men are polygamous And then PUA mutated into MRA and finally fused with other influences (evo psych, politics, men into overseas dating, etc) to mutate into TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:00 PM
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How do you deal with running the computer so long just to get one Dogecoin. The only place around here that takes Dogecoin is one pet store lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:58 PM
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Fyi, if you have student loans that you need help with. Try this website. They help people to get rid of their debt for good. http://rollingjubilee.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:54 PM
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Speak truth to power "Sex and the City" is a negative influence on the youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:53 PM
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Many women also need to use tactics like 'The Rules' to get men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:49 PM
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If all men became alpha, the top dog alphas will have large harems, and lesser alphas and masculine women will fight each other in wars. Gay men (the ancient world's eunuchs) would live in harems with women. If haremization does not get underway then women will become hardened from overwork as a single parent society begins to form. Nobody would do anything of note as nerds get shoved into lockers over and over; life will be constant war and we will fall into another Dark Age, for it is up to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:41 PM
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Yeah check out my anecdote of a 35 year old man who is 5'4" and picks up hot girls prime age taller than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:25 PM
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There are many categories of small, nonmasculine men who strike a home run with the ladies. Hipsters Richie Rich Guys who look like Bieb or Drake Guys who are extremely socially astute Since you guys know a lot about the first few categories I shall tell you of Category 4. There are 2 cases of this that I'm aware of. This guy, let's call him Jayden (5'4" guy), in my local musicians community center is like that. I have already gone on and on about him because I find him to be a fascinating chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:09 PM
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Yeah it's like that around here except a multicultural mix. Imagine the Jersey Shore with a multicultural medley of black, white, Asian / Indian, Hispanic, Goth, Banker etc guys with the same abhorrent muscle shirts. On a warm summer day, the junior Arnolds strut about the parking lot with their flamboyant girlfriends in tow, walking in circles around their modern hotrod of a car. Usually they make $100,000 a year more than you do because their father is in a highly paid union position and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:50 PM
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Asperger's syndrome, long quest for financial stability, and mildly conservative immigrant upbringing. I mean I have a fiance now but those years were wasted. I'm not attractive but there are many people who are far lower SMV than myself, so I'm approximately within ~1.5σ of the population mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:35 PM
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Yeah I think the stereotypes of college dating mostly stem from people who go to those small college towns
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:29 PM
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The thing about religion is, what is it a proxy for? The traditional American divisions of Catholic, Protestant and Jew were proxies for racial identity (WASP vs. East / Southern European) in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I honestly don't think most Catholics (Muslims, Mormons, etc) swallow the koolaid. I think what you're seeing here is a cultural difference and not about their belief in a particular deity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:25 PM
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Speak truth to power, those were the years of peak libertarianism for me and many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:21 PM
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I am a woman who did not date in my early or mid 20s at all. Sucks for me. Losing your virginity as the fruit is beginning to rot, lel. I'm not in denial unlike a lot of feminists. 15-20 are peak years physiologically even though modern society infantilizes people during that time period. One guy I know thinks high school girls are hot. It's hurtful for those of us at the wall. But it's some biological truth I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:20 PM
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Some of us are bitterbitches because of years of striking out with boys. I'm engaged but still bitter because let's face it, you never get those years back again. It's all well and good to lose your virginity at age 21 but losing it at age 28, when the fruit is beginning to rot, is more dismaying than anything. Clubbing is different when your husband is always too tired to come to your shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:11 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Maybe 15-20 years ago, when I was young, kids were more like "kids". Or that could've just been me. I didn't know what a douche was until I was 24. I thought a douche was an asshole, like a douchebag, I didn't know it was actually a rinse for the genitals to keep you from smelling foul; I thought the crotch was just an innately vulgar part of the body. No wonder I struck out with boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:07 PM
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How's that Brownian motion working for you? I heard that there is now a dance based on Brownian motion, called the particle shuffle. I heard that it's a nice way to meet ladies on the dancefloor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:04 PM
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When I was young - around age 16 - somebody asked me "what kinds of boys I dated" and it was perplexing. It's not just because I'm from an immigrant family. The most perplexing part is the assumption that, at that age, you date boyS. Not, you might have asked 1 guy to prom before. But that you date so many boys that it actually becomes a trend whether you like black or white men. There was also "if you like rap, you date black guys, if you like K-pop, you date Asian guys, if you listen to rock, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:56 PM
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Yeah, I agree. I didn't date in college. In my 20s, I pursued a 30-something guy who was a low talker.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:44 PM
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It also seemed that nerdy, unattractive guys were not willing to date nerdy, unattractive girls. Speak truth to power. But here's the deal - I did not date in high school or college and have no idea how that stuff works. I knew one person who had a boyfriend in junior year of university, but that's it. The main dating arena I know is the mid-20s to mid-40s world depicted on Match.com, by editorials in the Atlantic, and by RooshV's screeds. I also agree that men can be alpha widowed and then, aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:36 PM
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I like the Foundation Trilogy and I Robot by Asimov, Cyberiad is a fun short story collection by Lem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:00 PM
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Yeah, Isaac Asimov and Stanislav Lem are some top SF authors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:56 PM
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It's not confidence but a rare skill. Confidence just magnifies the fedora in a neckbeard. It's like he knows what will transpire before it happens, like I was milling around outside the practice space (we frequent a warren of music practice rooms in an old warehouse) and he appeared, like a cat, from some hitherto unknown crevasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:55 PM
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Yeah, but it's more challenging. This guy also has a smooth personality. I don't know how to describe it; it's like the opposite of social anxiety and immaturity which are normal traits of musicians. Like he's so smooth he's suave to men and women and he also tolerates a wide range of personalities. He is able to maneuver... around people so that they don't know that he's manipulated them in some way. Most aspiring metal and rap artists can't get laid to get out of a hole in the ground that is q…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:52 PM
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Asimov and Lem are pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:49 PM
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Beta game detected
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:47 PM
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One guy I know is 5'6" and probably doesn't lift and is pretty smooth. The secret ingredient is guitar
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:43 PM
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Look, I don't think TRP is that absolute about the wall thing. All genders can delay the wall by working out and eating well. If you're working out and being fit you're already on the right track. But time is limited not just for marriage, but for life in general. We are biological organisms as much as we seek to transcend that, I support transhumanism, but right now we have to work with what we have. So it's about optimizing your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:41 PM
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It's not just for marriage. I was treated better at work, while shopping, as well as even in the street after losing weight and putting on some makeup. Same thing with a guy being bald vs. not bald, and wearing nice vs crappy clothes. Grooming and not being 'post wall' can make the difference between getting a ticket and not getting a ticket while driving. For guys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:39 PM
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The majority of adults are fatasses and a lot of high school students are poorly dressed because their parents dress them, and sometimes poorly fed because their parents feed them shite. But in terms of apples-to-apples, people around age 21 generally look better than age 31, and that's for men, women and androgynes. Part of this (a huge part) is the fat factor. Also, you have to break this down by ethnicity. People with darker complexions tend to hit 'the wall' visually slightly later. But even…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:32 PM
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If we could bifurcate and live two lives - one where the person got married early and had a few kids in the suburbs with a stable job, the other when they grind away at a shite job and have sex with strangers every night to meet 'the one' the second might have a more exciting life but #1 would retain the roof over their head, their relationships, their health, and be able to build community. #1 would be miserable, though, if they subscribed to mall mania and the other detritus of suburban cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:22 PM
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Lol thanks. But do you agree that a lot of politics comes from the butthole
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:13 PM
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I use TRP ideas not to pick up, but to analyze political and social phenomena that appear to come from the crotch and butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:20 PM
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Same issue is going down in the US. I've noticed an uptick in herbivores here, not MGTOW by name but bronies, geeks, neckbeards, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:14 PM
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Japan, afaik, lists racial statistics like France does - citizens are not counted as a different race, the percentage is only the percentage of foreigners without citizenship. Since source countries of migration to Japan generally have people who look similar to locals, to the untrained eye, this is less detectable to people on the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:13 PM
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Lol my parents didn't pressure me to play music. I started music on my own. My parents were just ignorant about gender, my mom raised me to be androgynous, etc. I mean they did what they thought was right. But there is a lack of social awareness, and I did not mean political awareness, well because they came from a different country and stuff. Stuff like (short hair, not shaving your legs) was more ok in some Asian countries like China, in the '70s, but here there's more of an emphasis on groomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 06:32 PM
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LMAO not really it's unique to my mom, most families around here regardless of race aren't into that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 06:19 PM
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Yes I would describe much of Asian culture as having 2nd wave feminism. Women in my family view smoking cigarettes and straight up wearing mens clothing as feminist and progressive. The "slut", "carousel" and "gay" idea is unacceptable but there is much more equality between men and women in STEM, in East and South Asian cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:50 PM
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There was a serious disconnect between my parents' Asian blue pill attitude and the society around me growing up in the US, which was more RP because we lived in a working class area. My parents raised me like I was in East Asia, but with stricter curfews since they believed the US "had guns". My parents had some things in common with people in their area (Dad doesn't buy these things, but he views Hennessey, Beamers and gold chains - not SWPL stuff - as symbols of wealth). But on other things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:17 PM
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Yeah I think the main issue with racial differences is not being a certain race or color in and of itself but the cultural baggage associated with it. Btw metal / goth and Asians (except Japanese from Japan) don't mix either so we're in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:51 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:44 PM
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My cousins in China would beg to differ on the "work ethic" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:44 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:37 PM
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I wish I could be of a broad and sundry mix of races, so that I could "pass" unnoticed in many circumstances including as my own race, simply by changing minor aspects such as hairstyle and clothing, and taking a wide variety of language courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:31 PM
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Look, it's not women working. Most women in Latin America, China and Southeast Asia work but those areas are chock full of people. It's a confounding factor that is correlated, but not caused by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:21 PM
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This is a strawman argument
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:51 PM
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I think a huge part of what causes the radical animal-rights movement and other far left and far right political groups is due to toxic bachelors / bachelorettes who wander aimlessly in middle age, and then turn toward a life of throwing paint at celebrities who wear fur. Think about it, they view a bird-eating African desert mammal with concentrated urine (the cat) as their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:26 PM
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I started supporting both men's and women's rights when I was very bothered that women were competing with each other for "alpha" men and that the 'sisterhood' I had sought in feminism was not true except in small enclaves. Moreover, I was bothered that boys were disproportionately disciplined and dosed with Ritalin and subject to excessive policing tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 03:59 AM
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If you live in a jurisdiction where you cannot access Truvada or abortion without proving that you were raped, or you are subject to virginity testing either before marriage or for employment purposes, then yes you need to be able to prove and report rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 03:19 AM
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Business graduate here so I have no pony in the race. I know some SJWs irl and there is a major correlation between SJW and liberal arts including majors such as psych and soc. Some of their terms come directly from critical theory which is part of graduate-level liberal arts. OTOH, I haven't noticed a correlation between RP / anti-SJW and STEM. I've noticed more business majors snarking on SJW than anyone else because some of them view SJW = socialist = higher taxes. But business majors tend no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 03:10 PM
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Can confirm. Many people I know have also grown up in Communist societies and it was not, overall, an unpleasant experience. It's just different. Sure, some things suck, but it's not like a concentration camp. The chitty health care under communism is a reason why Obamacare is going to suck a$$ in the long run. rationing leads to doctors being broke which leads to bribery and more inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 03:10 PM
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Yeah, so that betas don't rise up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 01:44 PM
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I would've just put on a Spanish accent if I were him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 01:44 PM
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I would advise him to read deeper Game and PUA material instead of sluthate which is a toxic place. A lot of people do not work on inner game, they just work on outer game. I would also advise him to get a deep tan and develop a Hawaiian and / or Latin American accent to appear exotic to attract white girls. I would advise him to model himself after Bruno Mars and Enrique Iglesias, who are mixed race Asian men who attract a wide demographic of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:30 AM
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yeah exactly I'm going to check out some of the subs for people who have already processed the material
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:27 AM
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exactly, tradcon is basically beta game. betas and nerds engineering society to fit their needs by creating civilization, otherwise a state of rewilding and alphas will take over and the lex talonis will hold reign, which is not good for beta males or non butch women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:27 AM
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dude i'm not saying they're not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 08:29 PM
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I would scope out r/asianmasculinity for a more in-depth discussion of this issue. There is hard-hitting analysis of race and gender that is being discussed there that goes deeper than TRP.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/15 07:23 PM
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I went from libertarian, to SJW, to somewhere in between, over the past 20 years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:27 PM
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Absolutely. AFAIK, RP is more descriptive of working class culture and BP is more descriptive of upper middle class / SWPL culture. I do not think it differs by race, but by class. I feel that BP is for those inclined toward K-selected behavior, and RP toward those more r-selected. Fast / cad vs coy / dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:20 PM
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the same argument was applied to poor men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:14 PM
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I kind of hide the fact that I'm into metal. I added hip hop to become popular. It works well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:09 PM
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When I played rpgs some time ago there were always a few jocks in the gaming store, although most people there were nerds. You can game and still get laid. Just gaming doesn't mean you have to be 'that guy', you just have to avoid peer pressure in terms of how to eat, how to dress etc. Like you'll see your gamer peers drinking Dew and eating Cheetos and they might lol that you're drinking something diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:06 PM
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Aren't there a lot of cultures like that? I think it's a tradcon thing. Tradcon culture is far more blue pill than redpillers think. Redpillers think all Tradcon societies are like Saudi Arabia. but from what I know, tradcon favors betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:01 PM
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Can confirm; classism is real. I stay within my lane; I've never dated a man with a university degree of any sort. This includes the low talker boy whose Asian immigrant parents tried to get him to finish college but it didn't work. I have some type of a cheap vocational degree but that's it. I didn't get on with the boys at my college and they didn't get on with me, either. Every guy who has shown interest in me has had less than an Associates degree regardless of their cultural background. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:22 PM
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I use Retin-A and Lactic Acid lotion to decimate stretch marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:13 PM
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Can confirm. I was rejected by men for being an age 20+ virgin. Daygame and cold approach helped so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:11 PM
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One of my semi-friends, a 30 year old boy who friendzoned me and whom I beta orbited for years, is now dating a teacher who taught at our secondary school - to no detriment. I think he is using her as a beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:52 PM
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Dude ur lucky. My life was a massive friendzone in my 20s and the constant rejection faced when I daygamed was crushing. Because of my Asperger's syndrome, I was treated poorly as well. The female friends I had were also foreveralones like myself and I retreated into fat acceptance and heavy metal music. Pretty girls gave me shit as much as male jocks did, including deliberate disinformation on fashion and beauty. Fortunately I didn't give up on cold approach and daygame. And now, I am thankful …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:33 PM
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Some women do but many men do as well. For example, my fiance regularly calls the computer monitor "the computer" and the browser "the internet" and it's irritating. I had to explain to him multiple times that shelling into a computer doesn't mean bombing it with an artillery shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:29 PM
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I met my current fiance through a mix of cold approach and social circle game. He was a friend of a friend I knew through a geek focused meetup. The low-talker boy I dated before, I was getting IOIs so I did the same and also mentioned stuff like our common subcultural affiliation, however those were not enough to keep us together because I couldn't understand wtf he was saying due to low-talkerism. I've also been rejected multiple times while trying to daygame boys and so had to cultivate an at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:26 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:00 PM
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Yeah I bet a lot of young boys would like to get with Doro Pesch or Lita Ford.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:59 PM
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Yeah exactly. I think like Drake and Biebz have extremely symmetrical features, though. There is probably some analysis tool for it. I looked closely at the members of Suffocation and to me they just look like regular people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:27 PM
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Well I'm a legbeard and it just means a female neckbeard for example a nerd who isn't very well groomed. I think that Justin Bieber and Drake are objectively more handsome than the guys from Suffocation because statistically more people think they are hot. Also, many men think Lena Dunham is attractive but many more men think Kim Kardashian is attractive. I am merely talking about averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:13 PM
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Legbeards...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:56 PM
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LOL I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:40 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:40 PM
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Tumbler of beer is an all-BP social network Also my friend says he only uses it to look at pr0n
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:29 PM
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Yes I am aware of this. My BMI is normal now and I have a feeling i pissed off my fiance. He complains that I wear giant pants and I'm like how am I going to buy all new pants. I don't like buying trousers because they're expensive. But my stretchy pants don't have belt loops
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:14 PM
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I would choose the recruiting job to pad your resume. You are still young and reputation on your resume matters more than a high income for now. I would live frugally and stack as much paper as possible, using http://prosper.com and a basic index fund in order to build a nest egg.
/r/askTRP14/07/15 05:47 PM
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Ok so they are attracted to the jockiest person in the club. Moreover, Beardos != Chad Thundercock ... I think most people think alpha males have "fade" haircuts and those razor thin goatees, like rappers. White or black.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:44 PM
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Uh, actually my fiance gave me a little static for losing weight and it made him anxious that I wore a smaller jeans size than he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:42 PM
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Most metalheads around here are neckbeards and legbeards and they date each other. This guy looks kind of like a prep, with short hair and occasionally wearing a band shirt. The thing is, he dates women who are outside the room and isn't really the coolest guy. I would say the alpha male in our social group is this fat guy who has a lot of tattoos because he has a vast amount of metal knowledge, I bow before the history of his metal archives account, he actually knows more about the genre than I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:23 PM
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Maybe that's why he listens to metalcore and deathcore, to attract college and HS students
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:18 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:55 PM
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Isn't it considered creepy for a guy in his 30s to date a student?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:47 PM
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Yes exactly TRP will always exist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:18 PM
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Metal culture, in the US, is almost an exact parallel to geek culture. The only type of metal that is considered sexy is stuff like '80s rock which no longer exists except maybe in Europe. Women are attracted to Adam Levine or Drake or something. Men are attracted to Katy Perry and Rihanna. I've never heard of people having a crush on the guys from Suffocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:17 PM
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Video vixens, a celebration of alcoholism, and the rock spirit are just part of the sexual dimorphism that predominates in blue collar, male oriented genres. I don't think it's like misogynist or whatever, I think this is just something that is going to exist as long as 18 year old boys exist. From what I know like 3rd wave feminism is just black feminism, when they mix minority studies and feminism. I would consider Missy Elliot to be a 3rd wave feminist cuz she explores intersectionality. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:11 PM
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Being in a pop band is seen as hot and desirable but being in a metal band is seen as the opposite because metal is seen as neckbeard music.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:05 PM
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Eh I never got a referral to date someone except when people circulated images of obese furries and said they're my future husband. Maybe he does. Maybe he watches Redtube, Brazzers and Xhamster every day and is a sexpert, but I'm not sure how he would signal this in a normal environment unless he goes up to people and talks about his wiener which is socially inappropriate and out of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:47 PM
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Just stack paper, avoid debt and live frugal...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:31 PM
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Men and women have gotten more bitter through the years as the SMP expands to encompass more and more of society, as the age of marriage gets later and the rate of divorce gets higher. People who are married, I think, are less bitter. But people who live the youth oriented life and ride the party carousel are the bitter ones because they will never keep up with a 21 year old. We need to respect all ages and not just fetishize youth. It's a zero sum game. Although women hit the "wall" earlier so …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:30 PM
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My friend theorized that conservative white boys feel cuckolded by Obama being the president so they relate to cuckold porn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:08 PM
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In slang terms that I hear IRL Alpha fucks = Thug passion Alpha bucks = Corporate thug
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:00 PM
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Sexual trauma - something that affects less than 1% of the population. These sites are not representative of women or feminists. They're representative of people who have been molested. An infinitesimal group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:56 PM
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He's a chill guy but like I don't know if he's good at flirting because I've never witnessed that. I think he goes to bars a lot, and I don't go to bars for non concert events, for many reasons. One of them being that my friend and I were ejected from clubs unceremoniously before. Some examples: I was asked for 3 forms of ID in my 20s because of heightism and shortphobia, and we were expelled for wearing pants with giant pockets and having lots of Arizona, candy and Cheetos in our pockets. We sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:52 PM
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The word slut, afaik, is no longer in popular parlance around here. Most people say hoe and thot. Ignoring the trolling entries redefining thot as 'basic bitch' just read this UD: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thot Here is a song about thots. http://genius.com/Mikey-dollaz-mad-bitches-lyrics#
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:23 PM
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From what I know this means that many, but not all, women were not held accountable for their actions until a later age. For example some of the writers on Thought Catalog talk about getting drunk all the time and not taking responsibility. However young men were more likely to be held responsible, but this is not always true (for example, manchildren, hipsters, neckbeards).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:21 PM
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I think the BP crowd prefers cardio based exercises such as yoga, pilates, Zumba and hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:19 PM
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Drake comes from an upper middle class background and was raised Jewish. He is very unrepresentative of lower-income African American guys from South Central LA and areas like that despite having the same skin color.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:34 AM
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Yea or they did not really identify with the rap lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:14 AM
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Who, btw, to continue the old thread about Asian / Indian men being either beta / stigmatized or not depending on context and presentation, is half Vietnamese just like Tyga (currently having sex with Kylie Jenner) is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:47 PM
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LOL I want to read it nao. When I say antinomian, I'm referencing a term, left hand path, that basically means a religious group that is "against mainstream morality". The main example is Hindu yogis that coat themselves in ashes and meditate in graveyards. So I apply the term to anything that happens to be a "reaction" begotten by a particular movement. You could say punk rock is antinomian metal or that gangster rap is antinomian R&B. Or the Tea Party is antinomian liberalism. Rock and roll it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:40 PM
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I'm drawing my conclusions from the demographics of young aspiring artists (what genres they go into... almost never rock and now rap is getting less common too), as well as the emergence of EDM guys like David Guetta into the hip hop scene. Just like the weather gets really hot about 2 months after summer solstice and really cold about 2 months after winter solstice, the apparent peak of a musical genre is actually when it's past its peak. Rap is currently going into a state of decadence as its…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:19 PM
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Tupac was a major fan of Machiavelli. As shown by 'Makaveli Records'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:11 PM
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My bad, I thought it was short for techno rap
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:07 PM
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It depends on the person. I would say that shallow women and shallow men stop maturing in their late teens. By shallow men I mean natty alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:07 PM
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Like the Disco Sucks movement and Disco Destruction Night, many people (like today's rap fans) are often loathe to admit that their genre of choice is no longer ascendant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:45 PM
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Look up Trap music.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:44 PM
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Yeah, it's like Jersey Shore and Honey Boo Boo are as much minstrelsy as Love and Hip Hop is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:40 PM
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I would say that the boundary between metal and punk is far blurrier than the tribalism of the '80s and '90s had suggested. Grunge is somehow influenced by both metal and punk. I like to say that grunge is like metal, to push buttons because they were a reaction to metal. But then again I would say that the church of Satan, or Richard Dawkins' extreme atheism are like antinomian forms of Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:39 PM
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Freakin' Alan Lomax old blues music quote in the beginning... Alan Lomax was a historian. He was quoting from was a folksong he heard being sung by prisoners in the 1940s. http://genius.com/David-guetta-hey-mama-lyrics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:28 PM
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Thanks for posting that. I would say that it's not just working class black culture, but lower middle class culture in general. White or black. Remember that rock and roll evolved from a dual stream of proto-country and proto-R&B, it's not as straightforward as Elvis bringing black music to white audiences. AFAIK, it's what bloggers used to call prole drift - the adoption of low income social norms by the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:27 PM
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Rap was ethnically specific over 20 years ago. Today, rap and R&B is the mainstream for artists of all races. EDM used to be specific to dance clubs and nerds in the '70s and '80s but now its influence is everywhere. David Guetta is topping the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:21 PM
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techno / dance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:14 PM
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White guys used to be a majority in the NBA and many now majority-minority sports like baseball.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:12 PM
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Yeah the PBR&B and Hipster Hop phenomena relate to rap like alt rock related to metal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:59 PM
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You know, I was thinking the same thing about associating hip hop and TRP. The occasional racist here and there could have a hardcore punk section or something if they don't want to listen to rap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:57 PM
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I would say grunge's self-image is as a continuation of the punk movement, but a lot of the post-grunge began to evolve in a "hard rock" direction and as we know, "hard rock" is proto-metal. Metalcore's self image is also as punk but they sound like In Flames and At the Gates (European pop metal bands) for crying out loud. By the time Creed and Nickelback - post-grunge - rolled around, the metal elements were baked-in. This is total devil's advocacy but death metal is considered as stag and a sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:14 PM
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Your friends are outliers, less than 1% of people in OECD countries are vegan. Just like my friends are outliers for being brokeass and not having smartphones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:38 PM
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The average attractiveness is skewed higher in places like NYC and LA because of the predominance of the entertainment industry there. But they're still at the same spot in the bell curve of the specific location probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:36 PM
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LOL true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:35 PM
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Yeah there's a big divide between extreme and aboveground metal especially in the '80s. It still exists today; you won't find Portal sharing a bill with Iced Earth. Moreover, extreme metal fans often point to "The Decline of Western Civilization part 2" as not representative of metal. I would say that stuff with a linear relationship with '80s metal did exist in the '90s, but it was more introspective and I guess 'alternative-ized'. Sorry to keep jocking Dream Theater, but they had an '80s sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:24 PM
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As in Uncle Luke from 2 Live Crew?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:52 PM
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Non-feminist minority prole women often identify with / take sartorial cues from Lil Kim and Nicki Minaj, same thing as non-feminist white prole women identifying with the video girls in the '80s and everyone identifying with the Real Housewives and the Kardashians today... I'm allowed to say this because I personally take sartorial cues from Rihanna et al.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:46 PM
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There's plenty of stuff on par with that in the '80s and '90s rap corpus, like 'Bitches Ain't Shit'. I also believe that "thug passion", the colloquial term for hypergamy, has been a term in use since the '80s. Btw, feel free to order a Thug Passion drink consisting of Alize and champagne. It's also a song by Tupac about learning to be alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:08 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:34 PM
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In the '80s - my bad. Rap is mainstream now but it is by no means an ascendant genre. This is shown by the emergence of 'alternative' or 'indie' rap and R&B and former rap artists moving to trap and EDM. Remember, in the early '90s metal went underground when grunge / alternative became a dominant form of rock and the alpha males jumped ship to hip hop. Today, replace the word rock with hip hop, and hip hop with EDM.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:33 PM
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You might need to drill down specifically to black feminists because for a long time, rap was viewed as culturally specific. Also, a lot of these discussions were held mostly in the '80s and '90s, when rap was ascendant. Today, EDM is ascendant and rap is being considered as an older genre. In the '80s, metal was also heavily criticized as sexist by white feminists. '80s metal started a lot of the tropes found in rap today - from bling to Bugattis to video vixens. There's a reason there's a rap …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:07 PM
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Yes, in the '70s and '80s, rock was much like rap in terms of its sexuality and domination by alpha males. However, today's rock is beta (indie and alternative) and omega (metal). Black alpha males turn to rap and white alpha males turn to EDM and bro-country.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:02 PM
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I think part of girl-power R&B, from TLC to Destiny's Child / Beyonce's feminist schtick is their songs' characterization of men as fungible and beta. For example the song No Scrubs is about omega males. Moreover, male rappers also put down omega males and females. I think that's what contrasts them with most R&B artists that are more redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:55 PM
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And then there's the sempiternal "Bitches ain't shit" song as well as R. Kelly's forward-thinking concept album about "Black Panties".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:52 PM
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Rap music has been heavily criticized for sexism by both black and white feminists, including academics, since the '80s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:52 PM
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Okay, I didn't know how to describe it exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:58 PM
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I don't know how else to describe it and just saying 'immaturity' implies that it means they're being stupid or something. These people I'm talking about are smart in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:50 PM
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Postcolonial attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:18 PM
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stuff like hygiene, compassion and knowing that detergents and most solvents shouldn't be eaten
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 02:24 PM
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Yes, that was what I was jokingly referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 02:24 PM
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Eh I'm talking about Roosh and Matt Forney picking up women abroad and making a stupid joke about feminists being lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:31 AM
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Thanks for the info. TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:50 PM
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Yeah like the show Sex and the City
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:42 PM
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Great post. I think that there's a good point to be made and I think that people who grew up working class have a real advantage in many ways. When you eat fast food every night it becomes a disadvantage, same with being raised a "Macy's baby". When you grow up being told that you can't go outside because there is gang activity, it becomes a disadvantage. Even if you are a well off city dweller.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:19 PM
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I'm wondering why these guys think they're poor though when the government used to give their parents huge cans of peanut butter. Moreover, there are some other weird things in my area in general. For example, I never heard of dental insurance even existing before, but somehow this guy I know who is a nighttime security guard has it. Around here, it's completely normal for a high school graduate who joins some type of racially segregated (no Asians no Hispanics) manual labor union to make as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:07 PM
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Exactly, you grew up being aware. Others, raised in the middle class urbanized environment, are not. A lot of people I know grew up getting those vast cans of peanut butter and cheese from the state and there is no greensward in their area, so there was no connection to nature or awareness of when certain foods grew.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:45 PM
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A lot of the men and women with degenerate habits and immature behavior are the most "alpha" and "popular" ones. For example the guy who says "nothing green passes his lips" spins plates while married. I can't imagine his plates smelling his farts in the nighttime since he eats no vegetables. While the most 'unpopular' and 'omega' among us are often rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:18 PM
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Some examples I gave of immaturity are leaving plastic on a heated oven, not knowing the season in which tomatoes grow, and not knowing when to rotate food storage out of the cabinet. I'm not talking about being masculine, feminine or unemployed. Also, eating a poor diet to the detriment of one's own colon is an example of immaturity. For example an avoidance of vegetable matter, which causes fecal impaction, and daily consumption of alcohol and marijuana. I don't mean drinking beer every day I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:57 PM
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I think while a case can be made for having fun all your life, it dampens human achievement when people lose the capability of living alone. Right now, we don't have helpful robots yet who can help take plastic off the oven, so unfortunately we still have to remember certain things. I mean housework is robot's work but who's going to make the robots if people keep getting dumber?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:33 PM
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Exactly this is what I mean and it's on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:22 PM
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It was pretty gross but not as potentially deadly as leaving plastic on the oven. Lelll
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:59 PM
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At least he knows how to cook the tilapia all the way through. Many people in their 40s and 50s don't even know how to do that. If he's getting a starch and a protein he's better off than the 90% whose diet consists of Cheetos and Mtn Dew.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:20 PM
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Look those are pretty much the only things I looked for, otherwise you limit yourself unnecessarily. I mean I have a good relationship. But sometimes I have to show my fiance simple things like how to use the FIFO method to rotate canned food inventory. I had to put up a chart to indicate agricultural growth patterns so that he would not buy food at the wrong time (like a tomato in the winter instead of a winter item such as pumpkin or turnip). Moreover I had to instruct him in how to figure out…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:11 PM
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I think blue pillers should ignore the angry phasers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:44 PM
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I was refuting the idea that bad boys are necessarily dating good girls en masse and stating that they were probably with "bad girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:42 PM
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Just nerds looking for pua information to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:19 PM
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I have encountered it as more frequently that the vagabond guitarist at age 22 is cowed into computer programming at 50 because he needs health insurance since the combined stressors of drug abuse and child support payments are giving him heart trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:47 PM
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I have always viewed the natural mate of the jock to be the cheerleader due to assortative mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:38 PM
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Hell, a lot of times they're the same guy; lots of musicians and vagabonds get tired of the grind and go back to law school. You know, I never thought about that. Natural alphas betaizing over time, and natural betas alphaizing themselves through game, in the same age range. When Chad Thundercock becomes fat at age 40 he has no choice but to turn into a beta because he can no longer milk cougars for money lol. But then again, I had an antagonistic relationship with alpha males (and alpha females…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:36 PM
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Yeah, but what I was getting at is how a colonial mentality can persist over the generations having been spread by the parents and grandparents
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:33 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Today's media is all about the new, the fresh, the now. But I am beginning to recognize that the bulk of life is about boring moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:29 PM
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There is a long history of colonialism in many parts of the world that causes people from some countries, especially those with a low income, to be drawn toward those who appear to have more money and power in society. Watch this movie. Frustrated: Black American Men in Brazil and observe the guys' attitudes and comments about American society, and note the socioeconomic difference between Brazil and the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOjvPOBvd9A
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:22 PM
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There are a few men I know who don't know about stuff like this because their mothers coddle them. One 38/M in my social circle says that nothing green passes his lips because "that's how I was raised". I told him he was going to get hemorrhoids the size of Uranus. This isn't just all-American upper middle class, white or black guys raised on junk food, some men from traditional cultures (Hispanic, Asian, Caribbean) are like this as well except the comfort food of choice might differ. Women's ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:14 PM
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If you want to compare height, in either sense, continental scale race is almost meaningless. It is known that Nordic and Mediterranean guys are both "white" but they differ in height.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:10 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that Asian FOB men (both South and East) in all forms of blue collar work, from contracting to truck driving to auto mechanics, almost always work in Asian owned companies. A lot of the unionized groups are heavily racially exclusionary, far more so than white collar labor which is more accepting of Asian guys. As you can see Hispanic guys are treated as peons in the world of labor and it is not viewed positively in the black community either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:57 PM
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Mainland China has a very different political and socioeconomic history from many other countries in the area. Much of Southeast Asia had a very different relationship with Western powers until very recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:50 PM
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I would not really say be as white as possible if white means a fat guy in a golf shirt. If acting white means being a muscular cowboy or Jersey Shore type, then yes. I've observed Indian, Chinese and Filipino guys giving off an 'urban' or 'Jersey Shore' vibe without acting white or suburbanized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:44 PM
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I have, it really depends on one's degree of acculturation as well as the area where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:39 PM
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White girls do not go for blacks as much as media makes it out to be broke girls The richer white girls that go for black guys do it with classy white washed black men and on some rare occasions you might get a mentally disturbed woman with daddy issues Are you hamstering?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:32 PM
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I know a white guy who has a thing for Hispanic women, dislikes black women / disregards white women (he grew up in a black neighborhood), and views Hispanic men as competition (especially if they are taller than he is). What I find funny is that he mostly dates Hispanic women who would be considered African-American or black if their ancestors had commingled with the English rather than the Spanish. He says that different ethnicities have different attitudes and his views of Latin women, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:30 PM
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I think there is a heavy phenotypic overlap between Indian guys and Hispanic or otherwise 'minority' guys and would say that people going for an 'urban' look could exploit this loophole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:26 PM
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Thanks a bunch. I am currently bothering some people in the practice space to show me new musical tricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:56 PM
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I think the RP perspective in truth has a different take on this stuff than the BP pop culture we were raised with. One kid I knew in college was strongly involved in a church that encouraged the kids to get into "courtship" rather than marriage. In our modern society we are taught to value love above practical things like whether or not the guy knows how to cook food in a safe way, like cooking a piece of meat all the way through or not serving people raw potatoes which are toxic. I mean I thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:04 AM
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No, I would've been f*cked. These BPers have less money but it seems like they have more happiness. I mean I make money on my own but BPers, it seems to me, tend to work for "nonprofits" and join public sector unions and this stuff creates more long-term damage to society by taking money away from taxpayers. A BP perspective will lead to the US defaulting on its loans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:50 AM
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Yeah I taught people some lessons for $10 before. I guess it's different depending on area. I am getting into popular music though (rap, and hardcore / punk / black and death metal), not classical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:12 PM
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That's the truth for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:11 PM
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Hey you're here and learning about life and relationships. Keep your head up there are plenty of fish in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:04 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. It's different for each person. glad it worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:01 PM
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Yeah. That is why I never got a tattoo though there are many wig and hair extension options available at a low cost on Ebay. I see a lot of young black and Latin men around here who have a lot of tattoos and stuff like that, a la Lil Wayne, and my area has a lot of blue collar workers. I mean like this http://urban.ink/ Maybe they are "trustafarians". When I am 50 I'm going to get a tattoo, in an inconspicuous place, just because. I hope there is more of an acceptance of attorney bikers and acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:01 PM
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Yeah I am wondering how many of the SJW crowd have money already. That seems to be a major factor. I actually notice that some of them are minorities or from rural areas though. Especially the Instagram famous rappers / 'models' and stuff. I don't think you can become hot on instagram / myspace at age 35+ though. I just reached a net worth level very recently where I can even consider getting a smart phone that can run instagram at all. I see so many young rappers, actors, models etc who look so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 08:34 PM
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I hear ya. For me, I'm in my early 30s and in a relationship for many years, so right on target by RP standards. But, sometimes I wonder what could have been (not CC, not interested in promiscuity)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 08:14 PM
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The only non-Americans on that list were Bruce Lee, Rita Ora, Neymar, and the Thai gangster guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:53 PM
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Imo a huge part of the "no black chicks" stigma is social because South American and Southeast Asian women often have black features, and are seen as exotic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 05:31 PM
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About the 'Asian men' thing - there is a huge phenotypic overlap between Hispanics and East Asians and between Hispanics and South Asians. Yet, Hispanic men are seen as hot and Asian / Indian men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 05:27 PM
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I would say the best course of action is to lift weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 05:22 PM
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Well it's the same for a lot of ethnicities, like Hispanic. Also Eastern cultures - if your father's father is an Arab, you're an Arab, if your father's father is a Chinese, you're a Chinese, if your father's father is a Persian, you're a Persian. Phenotypically I would consider Obama to look black and Vin Diesel could go either way. It also depends what country you're in. To me, Tiger Woods looks Asian. But in the US he's considered black. If he moved to China for example people would guess tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:38 PM
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Would you call Obama white? Someone being white passing doesn't mean they're not black.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:45 PM
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I stand corrected, I thought he was half African American.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:39 PM
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Yeah your experiences are similar to a lot of things that I have encountered and not just in the celebrity realm. LOL@ people thinking you're Maori lel One guy I knew in school is a white Anglo Saxon protestant and on more than one occasion, I have heard crackheads and nighttime hooligans call him a Jew, because he has a beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 02:06 PM
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Right but it is more the context where she is perceived; I have heard her being referred to as a 'white girl' but afaik, the way that people say it I can't help but hear a "but" at the end. Like when they are saying 'white girl' they are not saying it in a way that 'she is Anglo or a gringo'. I mean at least, from what I've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 01:48 PM
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Your post completely proves the point that I was making in my last post. Most white people in Valencia and Barcelona are probably no more mixed race than white people in the US or the UK. In fact the US is probably more mixed race due to the massive amount of white folks with Native American ancestry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:33 AM
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One thing that is funny is that I've heard white guys say that they like Hispanic women, but not African American women. And what is funny is usually, the Hispanic women they like are of African descent, and would be perceived as "black" if their ancestors had been working for the English and not the Spanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:24 AM
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Yeah it's true and it's pretty funny given the NAACP woman incident. Bruno Mars is a Filipino guy from Hawaii who looks 'racially ambiguous' and is socially perceived as a non-Asian minority. People often guess that he is black. Rita Ora is regularly discussed on predominantly-black websites and is perceived as "ethnic" if not black, but she is Albanian. Nicki Minaj is half Indian and half black but she is perceived as black. Keanu Reeves is Hawaiian, Chinese and white and he is perceived as whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:51 AM
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He's Filipino and Hawaiian afaik, but 'socially viewed' as a 'man of color' by the popular media. Rita Ora is viewed as black but she is Albanian. YMMV but this is the hearsay I hear on comment boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:49 AM
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Exactly it depends on a lot of cultural factors, for example Bruno Mars is perceived as black not Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 02:38 AM
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Remember that the perception of ethnicity can change. Bruno Mars is Filipino but he is not viewed as a stereotypical Asian guy in the media. African Americans have some of the widest phenotypic variation out there so to be blanket not-attracted to black women is pretty strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 02:29 AM
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I think what you're seeing is a clash between the 2nd and 3rd waves of feminism. The 2nd wave is puritanical and the 3rd is sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:32 PM
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I've been lurking in RP and RPW for a while since I'd like to learn more about being a good girlfriend. I'm also concerned about preserving my relationship and preventing him from straying. However I'm concerned about the focus around there on having a guy who is alpha / high quality, what about those of us who are more professional or educated than our BF and are also anti-divorce, anti- modern dating. There are men out there who are not very successful, they need wives too. I am not just talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:18 PM
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He looks ready to suck dick. That adam's apple is there to overcompensate. LOOOOOL
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:03 PM
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Guys can and should wear makeup but on a limited basis, like guyliner or mens BB cream
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:02 PM
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Oh snap
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:01 PM
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I think about a decade ago, PUA collided with HBD and libertarianism, and spawned red pill as well as dark enlightenment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:07 PM
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Most countries outside the Anglosphere, UAE, tourist-trap areas in Asia / South America, and Western Europe are pretty homogeneous tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:03 PM
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There's always been migration to and from China in relation to Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam and Thailand. Like since the dark ages. Similar to how Anglos have been present in Latin America since the English started migrating to the Americas, and how Mexicans have always been present in the southwestern US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:57 PM
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China has similar racial statistics to the US in 1950, except that minorities are concentrated in rural rather than urban areas, like African Americans were before ~1890. In the US from 1890-1950, many black people moved into cities, as well as European immigrants, which increased the apparent diversity since mass media focuses on cities. For example, jazz music and other aspects of black culture became popular. The main reason people talk about increased diversity in the US is because of large …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:47 PM
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Historically, Asia and the Middle East had a higher standard of living than Europe in the dark ages. Overpopulation in countries like India, China and Egypt comes from the long term effects of having a higher population around 1000AD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:45 PM
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No, because when you drill down to the data, South Asian men are viewed in a more negative light than East Asian men, and West African men are not viewed positively at all. At least, in the American dating scene. I think in some areas with more African immigrants, black guys are viewed as beta. A lot of "inner city" culture is just general American working class culture and not black specific (c.f. Jersey Shore, West Side Story, cowboy culture). There are strong similarities between the inner ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:36 PM
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All right, thanks for the tips. I will lurk moar first. Thanks for the advice.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 11:10 PM
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As an Aspie with low social skills, I would like an additional perspective on my relationship that is more opposed to hookup culture and divorce - two things that I personally disagree with. I am not sure how I feel about the alpha, beta dynamic.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 10:17 PM
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32 year old woman, been in a relationship for more than 5 years. I guess I'm blue-ish. I have trouble with friends and dating and did not 'date' significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 10:03 PM
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I understand. Next time I will listen to what my fiance says about the Taoism thing and the attachment thing, with a respectful ear, and respect his opinions about the relationship between citizenry and government. I need to read more relationship information (Asperger's, so it's hard for me to comprehend human relationships).
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 10:02 PM
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I respect him and we do agree in goals, but we do not agree on a few topics. Moreover I am absolutely opposed to divorce.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 09:47 PM
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Same here. I need to stop doing it too. My fiance says that I always "push" and that I'm "working too hard". I have a very different energy level from him and it makes him angry. Serenity now
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/15 09:22 PM
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i did tour guiding in college, well campus tours, and got into it as well. it's like theatre. i'm in performing arts, same idea, sports, same idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 02:03 AM
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I thought Steve Sailer and Rushton founded DE by reviving phrenology and mixing it with white anxiety lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:52 AM
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didn't HBD Chick and JayMan theorize that they developed more outgroupishness due to outbreeding and manorialism? lolol the outbreeding theory, though, puts white men in a bad light actually ... even wasps. LOL according to their theory south america and the caribbean should have the most high trust societies because they are more mixed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:43 AM
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i would say that some people can only change their personalities after a certain age some people are too immature to learn a concept. most people in their 20s are retarded and dicks... ever heard of jailhouse conversion (prislam)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:39 AM
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I'm purple pill and I think everyone - even people under 18 should have the choice to die no matter what. Also, they can choose to donate their organs, blood and other effluvia of the body within the security of a hospital. If you die in your home there's a major cleanup to worry about, liability, and stuff like that. There are too many people in the world, seriously. I feel it should be an option regardless of whether or not you are ill. We need to release the pressure on the planet and what be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 11:35 PM
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lel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:33 AM
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hahahahahahhaahah beta cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:10 PM
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Right, but being gay is not like wearing a mohawk. In my high school, there were also racial insults like "Haitian Body Odor", the usual anti Islamic, anti Asian and anti Hispanic slurs, and "African Booty Scratcher" which I would say, are more like "faggot". Just like you can't help what race you are you can't help if you're gay. Gay people don't turn straight. They hide it and have unsafe sex on the down-low. Guys having unsafe and anonymous sex leads to women and kids getting HIV and stuff. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:31 PM
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well people like to be treated as a fellow citizen who can make their own choices rather than being the butt of jokes when you hear, all the time "that's so gay" "op is a phaggot" "you're so gay" "don't do that it's gay" and open relationships / spinning plates as "dirty dogging" "cheating" "you're a manwhore" etc i can get why gays/polys think that sort of stuff is fucked up. you don't need the government, you can have cultural and media change but that's slow as hell and random. for example as…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:04 PM
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I saw that photo on the Heartiste site when he was dissing poly people as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:00 PM
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Some of the matriarchal cultures trace descent through the mother and afaik, people practice forms of serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:01 AM
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I would say most people would feel the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:00 AM
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High proles as in 'Vaisyas'? LOL Brahmin = SWPL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 01:18 AM
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I agree. But once a trend starts rolling, it's not going to stay among the crowd that passed Sex Ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:36 PM
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I read Moldbug when he was actively blogging, and think he's hilarious but I don't agree with some of his ideas (like the city-corporation or eliminating democracy), I know a few people who lived in Singapore, Dubai and other DE-approved places, the US has a vastly higher quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:33 PM
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que? I thought optimates were higher than brahmin
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:31 PM
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This is a hilarious read http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/castes-of-united-states.html Lol I don't even know what class I technically am. My income level is prole, have a normal net worth though, but my family is all over the map, from 8th grade dropouts to lawyers. I'm like a "helot" according to Moldbug's system though, which means my kids will be "dalits". There is way more class contrast within my family than outside it lel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:54 PM
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Classism in American society is so subtle that we don't even talk about it. Words like prole and pleb sound like science fiction, and ghetto, white trash, trustafarian, sound extreme. I think we should talk about class more. Our society sure does talk a lot about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:48 PM
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Side note here. Do you think prole drift is a thing and do you think Moldbug's Optimates still exist, or have they been replaced by Brahmins?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:34 PM
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But there aren't laws against people having a mistress, or sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:31 PM
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Ok I'm going to look at if there are swingers meet ups and see how many people are in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:30 PM
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I didn't want to say that so I used the euphemism of 50+ to indicate that I don't know if the people in this group are high SMV. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:29 PM
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Most people are not diligent about condoms and stuff like that. There's a whole bunch of reports about guys being "Truvada sluts" because there's now a morning after pill for AIDS. I'm totally glad Truvada exists, don't get me wrong but could this also be why herpes and other diseases are spreading (unprotected sex being more socially acceptable)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:04 PM
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That's the main thing I'm concerned about honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 09:45 PM
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I'm wondering what the endgame of this will be if it's practiced en masse, in terms of health care costs, in terms of social structures, in terms of just everything. The Gardasil shot usually isn't even given to people over age 26 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 09:43 PM
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Yeah, I am not against the theoretical idea of it but maintaining that many relationships can be really difficult, especially for modern people with careers, who don't live in agrarian societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:42 PM
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Okay. I read an article that stated that more than 50% of people have unprotected casual sex. What do you suppose the consequences will be when polyamory spreads beyond the circle of folks who regularly wrap it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:34 PM
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I would respect him more because it shows that he had the drive to improve himself. Also, I'll ask for the guide to see if it could help me in social skills as well. I don't believe we have much 'natural' personality and even if someone is 'naturally' a psychopath, it would mean more if they overcame it, than if they started off as a normal guy. We don't get to pick and choose the hands we're dealt in life. The true test of character is how you play the cards you're dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:31 PM
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Who is taking care of most of the kids in these families? Who does the housework and who pays most of the bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:27 PM
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To me, you have to be a very socially mature person to have a mistress or open relationship because it leave you open to a lot of problems. Maybe this is why mostly Boomers do it, since they're at an age where they're mentally very mature (most of them). Like living in a big house with lots of extended family members, can lead to more conflict than living with just your nuclear family. I don't know if most people are there mentally, a lot of people cannot even handle marriage to one person as sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:17 PM
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If I were a qualified individual, I would like to be able to apply for jobs like coal mining, oil field and security (like soldier of fortune, not like being a night watchman) jobs without getting my resume autosubmitted to the slush pile. That's feminism, equal treatment. What many feminists are looking for is a chance and not to be tossed aside because they might be working with a "dangerous chemical that could cause harm to the fetus" or something like that. As a feminist, I am strongly again…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:07 PM
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What is double texting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:03 PM
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I know what polyamory is and don't have a problem with it, but don't know what sort of effect it would have on society if writ large. Full disclosure, I used to be tradconnish and bearish on gay marriage so I could be wrong. Today, gay marriage, nothing wrong with it. I've never seen it growing in popularity outside of hippies age 50+. If that's the demographic you want to date in, great, but I doubt that is the goal of most 20something PUAs who want to date HB10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:59 PM
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I would respect someone more if I found out that they used a guide because it shows the will and drive to improve oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:56 PM
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yeah i go there sometimes but frankly, racism is considered far worse than red pill or homophobia. the kkk and neo nazis are classified as a terrorist group, homophobes and PUAs are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:56 PM
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exactly that's what i'm talking about - when it became a debate in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:55 PM
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red-pill and PUA is a remedial program for people who don't get that "this shit is obvious".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:29 PM
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he's a gross and tasteless self-parody of the red-pill, because a true redpiller would know enough about human psychology to not say stupid things like he does, especially if they're also a 'race realist' which is extremely taboo, even more so than red pill. if he is actually dark enlightenment or whatever, he should be aware of his significant IQ limitations and behave accordingly. know thyself before knowing others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:26 PM
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I mean there were foreign brides sites and stuff, but it really started to coalesce and snowball when roosh (dating abroad) collided with roissy (dark enlightenment far right) and somehow the libertarians got mixed up in it. 2009 just lit the spark that was set by articles like "the end of men". back in the day, i believe that the manosphere was more dominated by old guys getting mail order brides, but it began to become more of a 'youth movement' involving politics and computer culture much lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:19 PM
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a lot of people go to midwives because having a kid is not a surgery except in very rare situations. people used to give birth in their houses all the time. many older rural americans lack birth certificates for this reason, which is why the voter ID act is considered racist and classist. people who are really old who don't have driver's licenses, wouldn't be able to vote ... at that time many blacks were banned from white hospitals too. if the hospital in your area is white only... guess what
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:16 PM
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I think the change in the economy after 2009 was partially responsible for the spread of MRAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:14 PM
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how the hell do you know so many swingers. i'm probably only aware of 1 or 2 in my area and they're old-ass hippies, over age 50. 99.99% of the population is mono around here unless it's regular "cheating".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:12 PM
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Then why is it called cuckold porn when a guy watches another man boink his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:10 PM
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The modern west was a "third world shithole" 800 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:09 PM
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I kind of agree that widespread polyamory can lead to inequality. It will literally be genetic inequality, because the wealthiest men can have exponentially more offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:09 PM
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This is a slippery slope because it's tantamount to the government collecting DNA samples to register people as citizens. Therefore collecting a DNA database of citizens, and possibly linking them by lineages like the Bene Gesserit bred people like livestock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:06 PM
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She needs to check her straight privilege and stop blaming gay people for her problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:05 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:13 PM
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Lel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:59 PM
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Didn't he get throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones by being a cunning linguist lolol?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 08:20 PM
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I would teach my son to lift and either join a sport team, or learn to DJ / rap. Those factors all attract girls without the need to cultivate a dark-triad personality. I would tell my daughter the same thing but also that guys don't like it if you act like a dick or try to bust their balls like another man would. If I hear uncool neckbeard music coming from the kids area I'll put on some rap and EDM so they know not to go down the metal archives black hole. Like if I see a lot of LoL hours bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 08:16 PM
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lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 08:11 PM
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Knut Hamsun? Short for Hamstersson?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:53 PM
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Cleaning is neither men's work nor women's work. It's robot's work. Until they revolt, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:50 PM
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Not if it hurts the bottom line. AMT is quite destructive especially if the man and woman have roughly equal incomes. Also, it screws mixed employment status (self employed vs W2 employed) couples, which account for a far larger share of the population than AMT-payers. If you're tradcon, imo, get a church wedding and a joint tenancy (if you really want the latter), the actual marriage / civil union is just a state matter anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:43 PM
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I'd wager that the NYC finance community is the same way re: cohabitation so you've got two data points here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:26 PM
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Explain how having a piece of paper that destroys your tax planning, if you're middle class (due to AMT), will make your children more successful? AMT mostly affects families making under 750K USD per year. It does not affect the upper class. Children can get on either parent's health plan, which will keep them from getting various diseases. If you want to keep up appearances, I'd have a sham wedding for the family. Though I've preached against "illegitimacy" before, I'm beginning to break free …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:16 PM
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Especially with the vile Alternative Minimum Tax high rate being hit more easily by married couples than unmarried, and having to itemize if your spouse itemizes. Marriage is not optimal for one's tax rate except for those with low incomes and no entrepreneurial drive. This applies for both men and women. I would advise other women to not let the stigma of being a 'single' mother force you to dragoon a man into marriage, unless you need it for immigration purposes. You will save a bundle on taxe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:10 PM
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My main doubt is the idea that noncollege people are more traditional across the board, and my main belief is that college people are less traditional due to liberal coursework and the "blue" vibe on the college campus. I went to a chitty public commuter school and I doubt many people had sex, though I heard rumors about sex in the music rooms or something. The vibe in suburban schools is way different, especially "party" schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:49 PM
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Because the students who do get involved in hook up culture are not just a small percentage of the population, but there is also some hypergamy and the girls are doing it with the top 20% of the male population. College has more nerds and more naughties, whereas afaik non-college people are more middle of the road. Moreover, non-college people tend to have more kids out of wedlock (no offense) so marriage and monogamy may not be as important to this crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:31 PM
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The idea that more intelligent people are more politically liberal could be potentially confounded by the predominance of liberal ideas in American colleges, for example, and the fact that more intelligent people are more likely to go to college. Schools in many other countries may be less far-left in terms of their attitudes. For example, I have a feeling that UC Berkeley might, just might, teach more left wing ideology than IIT or the equivalent type of engineering school in Russia, China or N…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:20 PM
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I think the CC and PUA dynamic only affects a small amount of Americans, and we tend to forget this and generalize (PUAs' experiences living in DC, NYC etc) to the world at large. Hence the AWALT idea. Not a lot of Americans travel internationally on an extensive basis. Not a lot of Americans live a hipster or ThoughtCatalog writer's lifestyle either, but PUAs disproportionately talk about these topics because it reflects their own lifestyles. Just like we hear about vegans all the time in the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:07 PM
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I wonder how much of this (the male skew of monogamy, as well as the liberal skew) is a confound due to it being in a WEIRD (western, educated, industrialized, rich and developed) country since it's based on Add Health.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:05 PM
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Thanks for the info. It just shows how my friends and I are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:16 PM
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Sure not a problem. My perception may be skewed due to having a weird group of friends. Most people I hang out with like my neighbors are over age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:11 PM
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I live in the US and have a feature phone. My neighbors have feature phones. My HR manager has a prepaid feature phone. The guy who is the CFO in my job had a feature phone until a year ago when he became tethered to a blackberry for work purposes lel. I have a tablet at home and it can pick up wifi when there's wifi around, but that's it. I also have a desktop computer which is vastly preferable to tablets and the like. Millennials are notoriously poor. What you're probably seeing is their tabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:00 PM
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I am talking about aspiring rappers and rockers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:57 PM
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This is where my mind is going as well. I think porn is worse than short-shorts and tank tops though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:53 PM
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Not everyone has a smartphone or digital camera, many people use feature phones and I doubt that attractive people are somehow richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:42 PM
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exactly, I think that the celebritization of society has led to many problematic externalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:37 PM
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Viagra is absolutely not covered by state health insurance programs like Medicare or Medicaid in the US. I doubt that birth control is covered either. Nor is Propecia. There are so many Cialis ads on online pharmacy sites because hardly anyone can get it on their health plan. this is how much Cialis costs http://www.alldaychemist.com/tadacip.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:15 PM
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Chat with Scandinavians online has not given me any impression that their countries are better to live in than the US. Maybe different but not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:11 PM
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My main problem with the SMP is how it's reached its slimy little tendrils into every part of society with the mainstreaming of casual sex and the extension of the dating-sphere into one's 30s and 40s. With the rise in divorce, remarriage and singledom rates, people are becoming more visually stimulated, more Tinderized, more Instagrammed. As one's 20s extend into one's 30s and 40s, the SMP gets bigger and bigger and STD rates rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:48 PM
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I think the main problem with LMR is people having sex when they are not in a relationship. Call me a tradcon but I do not think unfettered sex is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:45 PM
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Hold up. There are RP writers who are hateful and ones who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:39 PM
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Yeah I'm talking about musicians mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:37 PM
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No, people try to diss you for improving your life. I also used to think alpha / beta from the misc was a joke. I used to think PUA was a joke. But now it's becoming part of mainstream society, like libertarianism started becoming popular like 10 years ago after circulating in the nerdosphere for years. Maybe it's cuz I'm way older than you. But in my formative years, if you were into Marvel or anime as an adult you were considered a phaggot. Guys wanted to be like Zyzz and The Rock. I mean girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:13 PM
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Here is my theory. I think the rise of TRP, DE and these forms of thought are partly due to economics. The recession was not merely a recession imo but a return to normalcy after the post-war boom that lasted from 1950 to 2009. The rise of the BRICs countries (Brazil, Russia, India and China) as economic powers caused a lot of the DE's xenophobic ideology as people saw their jobs being outsourced. The DE O.G.s were the scientific racists such as Steve Sailer, who blamed affirmative action and im…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:02 PM
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I think that this is a concern that you have to discuss with your GF along with the underlying theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:55 PM
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Say I am curious: as to why you hang out in TRP sub and PPD if you are interested in BP only, rather than debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:53 PM
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Yes I sort of got that but thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:50 PM
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But a lot of TRP is remedial stuff taught to people who might not be socially astute, who don't "get" these things automatically like people who were popular in school. I didn't know about a lot of stuff, like the wall, alpha vs beta, etc before getting involved with the pills. I used to think the biological clock was a stereotype, or that it only applied to people who wanted a kid. I didn't recognize how big of an impact it had on society. Moreover I did not realize how bad it was to be fat or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:45 PM
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Some examples of hamstering are women in denial over their inability to have a kid over the age of 50 because they saw that Halle Berry did it. Some guys also hamster especially in the music industry. I also hear both men and women hamstering by dissing other people like "sipping haterade" and 'sipping tea'. Women call other women hoes, men call other men gay. It gets worse as people get older a lot of older people (men and women) who are unsuccessful, are bitter. But unfortunately life does get…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:35 PM
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Lol I have noticed this. I think that sometimes music scenes grow out of groups of people who do not really fit into society so they have to express themselves either by taking off their pants or playing music.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:28 PM
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Yeah also the genre affiliations. Mr Suave plays radio rock, Mr Non Suave usually plays death metal tunes based on science fiction and fantasy topics. I am wondering. In your NT estimation, do you think Mr Non Suave is lying about getting laid all the time, do you think he is an imaginary PUA or is this for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:20 PM
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LOL What does that make us who check reddit before bed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:08 PM
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RP gives me info about NTs that are not apparent to me as an Aspie even though I still agree with women's lib and gender equality. As I am interested in understanding NT humans of all genders, learning about stuff like AFBB, the wall, midlife crisis, game, PUAs, sex and the city / attorney bikers, thirst traps and spinning plates was mindblowing for me because it's so sub rosa. Before reading sociological blogs I did not understand why many feminists were bitter, why people went overseas to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:35 PM
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Planet Fitness is $10 a month
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:57 PM
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Look, I'm really into fitness and grooming as well but it's not just to look good for my bf it's to create a positive impression in society in general. If you walk around looking poorly groomed people shit on you hardcore. I used to be a fatass with severe acne and it sucked. People don't take you seriously if you don't wear makeup and decent clothes. People everywhere treat you as a leper if you have cystic acne, Retinol changed my life. That's not a reason to milk guys for cash unless they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:56 PM
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Lol I like your username
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:44 PM
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Well if you are a typical guy in a first world country you could upgrade your social and sexual life by moving to South America or Southeast Asia. However, if you would like to live in a society that is culturally more familiar, I would recommend moving to a lower cost part of the US. For example, Manhattan guy can move to New Jersey. I would also recommend hanging out in the working class community as opposed to the petit bourgeoisie in burbs who are more tied down to social expectations and th…
/r/askTRP30/06/15 02:37 PM
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Well that would be rational because people seek to increase their assets to outweigh their liabilities. Just like a short man might focus more on fitness and style than a taller man who has naturally higher alpha due to being taller. Well if I were obese I would focus on losing the weight but also seek to dress more stylishly to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:32 PM
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I like social media for the entertainment purpose, and to connect with friends, but am learning to not internalize things I see there. I am considering getting a smart phone but am concerned about whether or not it will affect my mentality in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:29 PM
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Good idea. I'm just going to ignore stuff like this or laugh at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:57 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with this comment. In most villages, Meghan Trainor would have been considered hot. Moreover, before thirst-trapping, women who had photos like that were top models, not regular people. It was known, that they were celebrities and a different subpopulation. Now, Instagram is creating an atmosphere where regular Joes and Janes feel pressure to keep up with top models. There are plenty of males like that for example, the late Zyzz. I do not think this is good for human civil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:55 PM
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Are you sure about that? (not affecting the SMP in a reasonable way)? To me, Instagramization works in tandem with Tinderization. It's not good for either the red or blue pills. For one, this affects working class and minority people disproportionately (as shown by the slang used on the site) - and blue pillers are more likely to be suburbanites, university graduates. As upper stratum blue-pillers retreat more and more into a bourgeois feminist fantasy, the rest of us languish in a dark realm th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:54 PM
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Some people still do not understand that feminism is about choice. You can be a feminist and be either blue or red pill. It's mostly the second wave type who are radical feminist who are complaining about women being SAHMs etc. Also some RPW put down people perceived to be slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:42 AM
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I think both men and women have to gather ye rosebuds while ye may. However the time is shorter for a woman than for a man. But a woman usually lives longer than a man. I think we need to take these things into consideration in dating and really think deeply about it. Fortunately there is a key in meeting old guys, ladies. Two words: classic rock. If you listen to classic rock or funk, you will be able to pick up old men with your knowledge of Led Zeppelin riffs. Maybe not rich, but old men in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:22 AM
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That is true that female fertility has a shorter span than male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:19 AM
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No not infertile but past their physical peak
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 04:08 AM
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I would think that some DE people would be left wing authoritarians Well I took the test and I'm like 6.13, -0.21 so moderate and liberal so that's the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:07 AM
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The wall might be later for men than for women but it exists for both genders. I think that the more people put off marriage the more problems there are. I think it's just a society wide externality of modernity and there is evidence that it is baked-in to certain societies that historically had later ages of marriage. But the genie's out of the bottle. We can't roll back the clock to the days when people married when age 18 on average. Men and women both get midlife crises. Sex and the City or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:24 PM
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For example a lot of young guys are labeled with ADHD and given strong medications, for example Risperdal which causes manboobs, for roughhousing. However in previous generations, roughhousing was more acceptable. Also men are subject to the draft, as well as more dangerous jobs than women. I am not saying women have no issues but men have issues as well. A lot of people find empowerment in terms of dating and improving their SMV by going to TRP. The only thing people find through CoonTown is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:15 PM
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Lifting makes you physically stronger as well as more attractive. Most people can't tell if someone is a weightlifter or jujitsu guy, only the difference between fit and fat. Fat, is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:13 PM
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I would say that most (but not all) libertarians are white but most that I see on the internet are not religious. I would say fewer black people are in it because they don't know about it not because they don't support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 10:03 PM
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I think it's because Single mothers are stuck with more illegitimate children due to unknown paternity, and therefore skew the distribution The abortion debate which turns off many young women who are not ready for children Most people don't know about the libertarian option. I think more women and minorities would vote libertarian if they knew about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:51 PM
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Ok I bleeped out the slur. Lol idiotlect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:45 PM
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It is strange that red pill has the widest distribution. I would have thought blue or purple would because they are allegedly more liberal and open to new ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:42 PM
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Yeah exactly. I have noticed that both men and women use the mirroring thing though it's hard for me to pick it up "naturally". I think it is just correlated with social skills. When I try to use slang I think it sounds contrived. I keep using slang terms, though, like "bae". Because I try to cultivate a sense of amused mastery when I use slang and to ignore haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:36 PM
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If it's for feminism, then why don't they just use r/feminism ? The fact that it is formed as an "anti" something group just shows where they're coming from. r/atheism is pretty anti-religion but it would be worse if it's called r/antireligion . It's just like r/fitness is a more honest and positive place than r/fatpeoplehate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:28 PM
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TRP and CoonTown are in totally different leagues. TRP is something that many men and women agree, both gay and straight. CoonTown just teaches hate. TRP has some hate but it teaches people ways to date, which is constructive. I'm a liberal and career woman. But stuff like hamstering and the wall (in both men and women) plays a major role in society. We need to be honest with our intentions. Ideally, society ought to have more transparency and less obfuscation. There is a crisis with today's you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 09:19 PM
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Hi. I have Asperger's and the main thing to do is to compensate. Look at your life like a list of assets and liabilities. Get fit, learn skills and increase the assets side to get higher than the liabilities side. Read lots of books about your condition, the symptoms and look up what can be done to help. I think, you're doing the best you can. Life is not about just depending on the luck of the draw but what we can do with the hand we're dealt. If you have an issue with cutting scars I would rec…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/15 06:51 PM
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Tinder is a cesspool of hoes and manwhores I strongly recommend against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:54 PM
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If you guys have trouble buying quality makeup at a good price I'd like to recommend some brands that I use http://www.eyeslipsface.com and http://www.nicka.com . The store http://beautyofnewyork.com also has a lot of hair care products like wigs, hair extensions, keratin straightening products, hair dyes and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:43 PM
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Exactly, you got to strike while the iron is hot whether you're a man or a woman, especially as a woman since the ideal is that you're supposed to look younger. Go for the gold. dating at least 3 or 4 guys at a time Wtf?!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:17 AM
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I would say that most promiscuous people are not part of the SlutWalk movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:50 PM
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I like to debate and talk about different opinions here and learn about various ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:49 PM
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I think that it's also about balance. I think women are told that they're fat more frequently than men. But, this may not be perceptible to men because it's done in subtle ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:59 PM
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I think it's because TRP started with the pick-up artist movement and men's rights, so there are a lot of anger phase guys out there who have misogynistic attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:48 PM
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I think the discrepancy between genetic frequencies for various phenotypes, and observed frequencies is that a lot of people's genetics in developing countries are under-researched since the colleges there don't have as many resources. For example the book "Seven Daughters of Eve" focused on the genes of folks in Europe because a lot of other places such as Africa, were under-researched.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:41 PM
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Historically, although women were encouraged to be virgins more than men were (because women can get pregnant), men were not given a total pass to be sluts. "Slutty men" like James Dean and Elvis Presley were not seen as the ideal until the mass media and the sexual revolution. Alleged 'virginity tests' exist for both men and women in various conservative cultures. Here are some examples of virginity tests for men. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/02/male-virginity-test-helps_n_633481.html …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:33 PM
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Same reason that it is offensive to call a man short. There are people who cannot lose weight for biological reasons. But unless there is a major health issue going on (like they are concerned about their cholesterol) it's not helpful to say that someone is fat. How do you know whether or not they are unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:31 PM
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Traditional societies control both men and women in different ways. So the question for should women be controlled - is also, should men be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:29 PM
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I call myself an SJW in a tongue-in-cheek way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:18 PM
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I think a lot of people who say stuff like lying is right are in the 'anger phase' of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:04 PM
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Same with bears
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 02:28 PM
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lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 08:21 PM
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D&D is pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:59 PM
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Eh I don't think it's hard to make a living off music. I do, however, think it's hard to make a living off original music. You can make a decent bit of cash playing in corporate and wedding bands, doing sessions and being in the backing band of shite artists like Taylor Swift. They have unions and stuff for people who are into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:51 PM
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To meet wizardly men one must hang out at meetups for wizards and other magick users who are interested in gaming for example
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:14 PM
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Ok I am just saying not all of them support those policies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:13 PM
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Debating politics on the internet Drinking coffee and tea Playing guitar Games (video, RPG, card) Hanging out in a mall with a tiny boombox listening to metal Tinkering with Guitar Pro 5 and Fruity Loops Dank memes Working out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:08 PM
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First of all the idea that RP don't think women are human beings, is a strawman argument. RP is just a way to teach young people both guys and girls, about dating from a different perspective. Sure there are extremists. But just like not every republican is racist, not all RP are sexist imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:06 PM
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Men - as well as women - are definitely shamed for not figuring it out for themselves. Especially when you are a boy or girl who cannot read non verbal social cues. I was dissed for being fat sure but nobody told me why I had to shave my facial hair or be emotionally perceptive. As for the latter, I had to read red pill men and women blogs, psychology etc to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:48 PM
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You can start music at an older age, though. Maybe not to get laid but as a hobby in general. If you want to be really popular in the modern age, learn to produce EDM or hip hop, because starting or joining a band is really high-investment. Acoustic guitar is also good - I'm decent, and I started like 2 years ago. All you need is the 3 cowboy chords.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:40 PM
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is 'getting laid' why bands sell out? smh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:34 PM
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I read the "life cycle of a band" entry and it was funny as hell. I think Metalsucks went downhill during Metal Gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:31 PM
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Sargeant D is pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:19 PM
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Lol I like WSHH etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 05:54 PM
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Lol core kid detected
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 05:53 PM
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Yeah I'm ok with people jacking it occasionally but not every day... i feel there needs to be some sort of supplement that helps people to be chaste so that society will devolve less
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:28 PM
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Ok but not everyone is interested in fapping it, jacking it, porky pump action and naked people all the time. However the media puts it in your face with all the half naked people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:22 PM
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I am talking about modern society as opposed to medieval society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:17 PM
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Yo I'm not a tradcon but the analogy to kids ruining their kids with sweets is spot-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:21 PM
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Yeah I still think core is ghey man. Different ... ahem... strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:18 PM
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Lel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:17 PM
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Yeah I'll order that shit on ADC, or Accutane if they still have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:17 PM
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Well there are plenty of great metal bands (power metal), like Iced Earth and Dream Theater that have no screaming but they are considered less cool because the members of those bands are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:38 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133893/Was-Dylann-Roof-driven-racist-murder-GIRL-Cousin-Charleston-massacre-suspect-says-went-edge-unrequited-love-started-dating-black-man.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 03:36 AM
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Thank you, like I feel that casual sex is not something I would do but to me, it's a problem for both men and women. I don't agree with carousel riding any more than I agree with PUA. I feel that oversexualization is something that modern man ought to militate against. (BTW I'm an atheist so not a religious reason). It doesn't just cause STDs and out-of-wedlock parenting, but it also decreases social trust between peers of the same gender as well as the trend in late marriage and excessive "dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 03:22 AM
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Yeah I didn't mean to say cuckoldry was the only reason only that it may be a contributing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:11 PM
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Well I like money and don't care about what others do in the bedroom, but I'm not interested in the negative externalities of oversexualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:59 PM
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Yeah I feel we should focus on the non sexual parts of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:46 PM
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Yeah I started an acne cream some time ago and look more decent than I used to, but its just so disappointing how people will do a 180 based on whether or not someone looks aesthetic. There are a lot of great musicians out there who are ignored because they are unattractive. Again, I'm depressed about how shallow people are (regardless of sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:43 PM
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Exactly both red and blue are guilty. People living life like it's the Discovery Channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:32 PM
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Hey I went on a diet and get treated better in the music scene. But I feel it ignores actual musical contributions. Many artists and musicians are ignored due to being fat or having acne. This causes more money and effort to be spent on zit creams, diet pills etc instead of productive work. I like music and art but I don't like the sex aspect. I think this is why core poseurs like Black Veil Brides win in the charts while real metal gets short shrift. The red pill is about responding to realitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:23 PM
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Its the female version of Roosh or Roissy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:57 PM
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Lel
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:39 PM
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Well, because nobody was talking about it, people like us who were out of the loop (male and female alike) didn't know about it. I thought Sex and the City was a parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:16 PM
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I have seen evidence that many cultures did have delayed marriage before the modern age but then again a lot of these countries in the modern age have the most advanced feminism and blue pill. I think some 'blue pill' stuff may actually be baked-in in some cultures (for example, women keeping their last name in Spain and China and I believe many Arabic-based countries) but the promiscuity and widespread STD thing is relatively new afaik as well as the destigmatization of out of wedlock people. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:59 PM
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In some traditional eastern cultures both parents worked and the grandparents stayed home to take care of the kids. It's the same in traditionally poor and / or African American families in the US. I don't know if this is true of Japan. But you have to remember Japan took on many aspects of mainstream, '50s American culture after the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:50 PM
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We'll spend more time at the gym, on our diets, reading books, and learning game then we will trying to make money. You can't take my game or my body away from me. But you can take my money away from me and have me processed into a slave. < The gym, social and diet focus rather than being productive, thing has been happening to women for years. Welcome to our hell at least you've got books... Same as women did for years...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:34 PM
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Despite being a feminist career woman, I agree with a lot of this. Most people around here don't marry before having kids and this is across the board by race and class. Maybe I'm being judgmental and an a-hole; unfortunately some people can't access information about birth control and the like. A lot of guys grow up without a male role model and then are pathologized - either diagnosed with ADHD and disqualified from a security clearance (if they're white or affluent) or arrested and disqualifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:31 PM
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I view it as: there's a venn diagram with a huge overlap in the middle. Maybe the extremes on the far ends are gender exclusive but the space in the middle is almost circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 05:04 PM
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Right it means it's not a gender issue it's about anxiety relating to immigration patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 01:07 AM
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no, y-dna is passed down just as much as mt-dna.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 04:24 PM
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I think, but am not sure, that solipsism is related to how some BP women discourage other women from improving their lives because they view themselves as in competition with other women, same with BP guys who dislike it when a guy becomes alpha and BP guys saying that working out is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:54 PM
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I wanted to know the truth about society behind the obfuscation of the blue pill. Reading RP material has helped me to figure out stuff like just how important physical fitness, looks and how you "come off" (say, as alpha) is so I got more into fitness. I'm not interested in getting laid, just in understanding people's behaviors. However I'm not fully RP because I doubt that one life, one marriage, is appropriate for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:21 PM
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I think it's a way that white conservatives are saying that they feel that Hispanic (in the US) and Middle Eastern (in Europe) people are having more kids than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:18 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:38 PM
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slaves != low paid immigrants. at the time the US had slavery, so did other countries. not out of the time-period norm at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:03 PM
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SJWs are generally against playing the "oppression olympics" and I don't think they feel SWM should be treated poorly. I think a lot of people don't apply SRS the way it was meant. The original theory of kyriarchy was that every single person is privileged and oppressed at the same time. And who is to say that you necessarily have more privilege than a gay black woman? Maybe the GBW is a millionaire and has class privilege. Maybe she is in a first world country and you are from a second or third…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:35 PM
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Why do you capitalize nouns that aren't names, like you're speaking German or something?
/r/RedPillWomen18/06/15 03:28 PM
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I agree with a lot of this and I, too am not the biggest fan of the large scale negative consequences of mass polygyny. It's bad for both men and women, but only good for the 1%. Yeah, there are a lot of issues in working class communities with the divorce epidemic. However I was specifically asking guys who identify as anti egalitarian and possibly neo reaction, I'm going to x-post my question to the neoreaction group as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:51 AM
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I think there was a time and place when disparate impact was a major issue - and it was a huge concern during the times when schools were segregated, and many people had grown up in the segregated system where girls and minorities could not go to magnet schools. But, I feel this is a concept that is outdated, and that we've got to move on. I feel that some affirmative action is necessary especially in terms of scholarships for those who can't afford it, but right now, we ought to hold everyone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:47 AM
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I can grok how many red-pillers are in the anger phase, just like some people blame immigrants for their unemployment, so they feel that way after being rejected during dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:09 PM
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Well, both. But it's more of a general question of what sort of world a person who is against 'equalism' and / or the general franchise would like to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:08 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:04 PM
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I misspoke. I should have said anti-democratic, knowing that un-American is an epithet. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:00 PM
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Right, we agree here though I feel that gender should not matter as much as it does. I am mostly asking the people who do not support egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 08:59 PM
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I guess so. Like what is the endgame of MRA and / or NRX?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 08:59 PM
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Don't take it personal. I'm talking about certain attitudes which you may or may not have, not all Red Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 08:44 PM
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Yeah me neither. I just find society a source of entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 05:29 PM
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The person creating bastards is impacting society. Maybe in terms of sheer money he's a drain but in terms of the game of life he's coming out ahead by far. I admit to being a knave lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 05:08 PM
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I'm an omega, not an alpha. Try again. I'm at the purple pill place to munch popcorn not to evolve into Alpha-Raichu.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 05:03 PM
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I came to red pill and purple pill because as an Aspie, I don't understand many irrational behaviors. Eventually I came to the conclusion that these behaviors were driven by how oversexualized these people are and how much they are interested in competing on a sex level. Like calling a person you don't like, gay or a hoe. Or tearing into a celebrity for having plastic surgery. Come on it's their business, not yours. I never understood why getting butt implants was seen as "sad" and "patriarchal"…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 03:26 PM
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Meowth! that's right!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:19 PM
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LOL groce i didn't know that but i'm more of a basketball person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:18 PM
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You produce more bastards and influence the gene pool when you try to get into pants of the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:05 PM
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Some white alphas are Bill Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger (back in the day), most wrestlers and motocross people like Tony Hawk or whatever, country singers like Trace Adkins and many NFL players like Tebow. Again mostly concentrated in country, NFL, NHL, and X-Games. A lot of the '80s rock stars like Bret Michaels, Gene Simmons and the guy from Guns 'n' Roses are also major examples of white alphas. Bill Clinton, as you know spins plates as does Dominique Strauss Kahn. I don't listen to a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:58 PM
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I'm just trying to lose a few pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:14 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:25 PM
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Well here in the US apparently peer pressure is saying that the "AIDS crisis is over" and condoms are passe. There's even have a vaccination for HPV or whatever it is and some school systems are making kids take it, even though it's making people sick. Apparently to be properly "liberal" you have to make your grade school kid take a vaccine for an STD. That's really gross to me. It's like they think the population is stupid and that people are having sex like animals. Also getting an abortion is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:01 PM
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I saw a meme on Facebook where a guy was crumbling a piece of paper to simulate the movement of a condom wrapper and the woman couldn't see him because they were doing it "doggy style". Moreover, some women think that the pill is a 100% guarantee, or that "pull out" is a legit method of contraception. Alphas, being more persuasive, are more likely to coerce people into unprotected sex. You'd be surprised how many young unwed people today use the "pull out" method. There is a lot of shaming of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:34 PM
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17 year olds generally don't use that terminology, no offense if you do. The way I learned it, neckbeard = age 25+. But maybe I'm just being biased due to my old-azz age. Another aside. Alphas are more likely to have sex without condoms. There's been evidence that chronic infections like HPV and herpes can reduce one's IQ. Maybe that's why - it's not that virgins are nerds, it's that nerds are virgin or at least very very careful with condoms. 50% of the sexually active population has HPV. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:23 PM
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Yeah I was being hyperbolic. SC is classic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:21 PM
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Thank you. I meant SV as an idealized type, rather; an average beta would be making 30-40K.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:47 PM
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Yeah, I feel that TRP and radical feminism consist of people who were marginalized throughout life kind of. No college = don't get to join a frat. Gangs are illegal. The military can potentially get you killed Nerds / jock antagonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:34 PM
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Rap is extremely red pill and it, too, uses shocking language. So does the blue pill. Look up "Society for Cutting Up Men", Shulamith Firestone, "all sex is rape". RP to RaP = 1 letter difference RP to RaP glossary AWALT = Bitches ain't shit PUA = Mack daddy Hypergamy = Gold Digger, ain't f*king with no broke niggaz
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:28 PM
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The idea of shocking people into awareness, and having a distinct lingo, is very similar to the initiatory techniques of fraternities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:22 PM
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Yes but being a neckbeard necessarily means that you're of age to grow a beard. Plenty of chicks were like that too but turned hot or popular at puberty. Plenty of guys who played MTG as kids are jocks in senior HS and college. I would never define even an 18 year old as a neckbeard. At that age, you're still learning and changing. Vanishingly few 18 year olds even know what TRP or feminism are. I mean I'm not a geek at all so I have no pony in this race, just saying what I observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:04 PM
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The problem is that one word (nerd) is used to define two kinds of people. Most STEMers I knew in college were preppy, and not into sci fi and fantasy. I see SV as more of a preppy scene with mathletes. There might be some overlap with the anime con crowd but not as much as 'Revenge of the Nerds' or 'Big Bang Theory' states. I would also say that there are way more fantasy fanatics than there are STEMers. In the neckbeard, the desire to play LoL and watch GoT overpowers pretty much all career am…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 06:41 PM
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Well it's not just exclusive to people from an immigrant background. I've met people of all ethnicities (incl. white or black) who were raised that way. And people of all backgrounds who were raised with looser attitudes toward dating. I mean it's more expected when the girl is Asian / immigrant background but you'd be surprised how strict some parents are. I think the idea that Eastern culture is less corrupt than Western culture is a major misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 06:35 PM
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The SV guy has a job and is probably healthier because he drinks Soylent and eats paleo, whereas neckbeards drink Kool-Aid and eat Taco Bell. There's a difference between a productive nerd and an unproductive one. The problem is, there's been a conflation, in the mass media, of high-IQ nerds and people who quote pop culture verbatim. Also I wouldn't say gaming is a neckbeard thing. It's just a childhood thing in general afaik. Plenty of non nerds play systems ranging from 40K to SC as a child, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 06:35 PM
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Yeah something about the idea of "alpha" makes the guy seem like a rogue, not a true leader of men. I agree with you here. Soi-disant alphas like Lil Wayne, Tyga etc are knavish to the max. R. Kelly, a prime example, is a pedophile or pederast. What do you think about the increase in omegatude in the population due to the poor economy? Do you think that it's true, that a bad economy can cause betas both male and female, to slide toward the omega side?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 06:24 PM
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First of all, I think that today's society is over-sexualized and that high school and college dating is overrated. I believe that the time for love and dating is after your education. But maybe that's because I did not have a B.F. during high school and it was kind of a mental taboo for me. When you are a student you are still very young and should not even think about it, because it will destroy your future to marry young or to get pregnant out of wedlock. In today's economy I feel there needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:47 PM
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It really depends on area. Some of the first PUA and MRA bloggers originated from places like Washington DC and New York, where the average age of first marriage for upper middle class white women actually is around 30 or 35. Remember that Sex And The City had a grain of truth for both men and women in urban areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:32 PM
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Yeah when you spare the rod you spoil the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:27 PM
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Every time I've taken this test I've come out as some sort of libertarian, and I'm a blue pill career chick whose revealed preference, I guess, is some sort of feminist. BTW they label Obama as a conservative on that test lolol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:19 PM
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Red pill theory has an idea that men can be divided into alphas (winners), betas (average) and omegas (losers). I think women can be divided in the same way. LOL is League of Legends, a video game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:04 PM
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The thing is that except for a few segments (frats, religion, sports, the military, the music industry, gangs) initiation rituals for young men have disappeared from modern society. What makes it worse is that many guys are raised without a father figure who can guide him into safe spaces like sports. It's also not 'sad' for a 40 year old to go through this. When else is he going to go through this if he didn't have a strong father figure growing up, and didn't go to college? That's why they say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:30 PM
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Like when someone mumbles and you can't hear what they're saying, even when you tell them to speak up. It was lampooned on an episode of Seinfeld.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 02:09 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 12:17 AM
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The color line has always been porous on the margins, and there's always been celebrities (Channing Tatum, Rita Ora) passing from white to black, and (Rashida Jones, George Zimmerman) passing from minority to white. The problem with Rachel Dolezal was that she did it to gain power and tried to be a professional victim by faking hate crimes, rather than simply becoming socially part of black culture, just being a professor of black history etc. Also I don't know if I've seen anyone black complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 08:53 PM
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The context is that, I think some women use terms like pervert to disqualify good men because they don't understand male culture very well and why porn does not mean a guy is a philanderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:16 PM
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Being a feminist is like being any other label, like red pill, blue pill, neo-reactionary or libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:12 PM
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We are all selfish and everyone manipulates people. We are all motivated by selfishness. Even blue pill manipulates people. Red pill works on men and women. Blue pill lies to make people feel better. For example, fat is beautiful, is one of the biggest bluepill lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:07 PM
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I think a lot of gals need to accept that guys often talk about gross topics like porn and masturbation. A lot of this shocks many women. One of my childhood friends (32/M) has a DVD of Dragon Ball XXX. This doesn't mean that they're dogs if they behave like gentlemen in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 04:48 PM
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Well I started being upfront about having Aspergers and would discuss my issues upfront. The boy I previously tried to date was a low talker and I couldn't make hide nor hair of what he was saying even though he was not foreign born, it wasn't an accent issue, it was just low talkerism. He became frustrated that I didn't pick up when he was trying to insinuate stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 04:28 PM
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Want to hear a solipsistic anecdote? I was not supposed to date in high school and had a terrible time when I tried to ask boys out after college. I was called creepy as well as friendzoned. I had friends, wasn't an outsider, and was successful in other aspects of my life. I actually thought makeup was a natural part of other women's faces and that I was innately homely. My mom considered herself a plain Jane and didn't wear makeup. Reading SJW literature confused me because I would hear these r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:55 PM
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Yeah I need to switch it up more and maybe put the electric next to my desk instead of the acoustic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:51 PM
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How is it like living with sheep and cattle. Are sheep generally chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:28 PM
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I'm a purple pill chick lel but also like kind of feminist. My BP traits: I'm not interested in marriage, having kids, I dislike cooking as well as maintaining the house. I dislike sports and am skinnyfat I have stuffed animals I listen to some odd music although I also listen to Top 40. A woman into emo / goth is very bluepill and even feminist. I listen to twinkly melodic metal which is feminine, not masculine. I complain on the internet and am also an atheist My boyfriend is beta and I dislik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:02 PM
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Thanks for the info. Admittedly I don't know jack about that area of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:01 PM
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I think Communism was originally caused by certain types of social structures that historically prevailed in countries such as Russia, China, Cuba, and Venezuela. You're right about the post-Communist stuff I hadn't thought about that angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 01:59 PM
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In inbred / red pill cultures there's also a dichotomy between male and female intermarriage. Guys will date whoever they want and in polygamous societies, marry interracially at will. God forbid an outside male touches their women. This is not just true in harems of the East (which existed in all parts of Asia as well as Africa) but also an impetus for lynching in the south (black men were lynched for dating white women) as well as informal polygamy among male slaveholders having sex with black…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:19 AM
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Islamic culture was historically less sexist than Western culture or on par. Many views in today's predominantly-Muslim countries came from very modern neoconservative and reactionary movements. Stuff like women living in a harem section of the house, arranged marriage, legal coverture etc were part of many cultures around the world until relatively recently. For example all of those were found in Chinese culture in the 1800s, including unmarried men and women (including trans / eunuchs) separat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 04:33 AM
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Yeah afaik feminism and SJWs are basically a phenomenon that is "baked-in" to a Western and postcolonial populations because of outbreeding. SJWs are the extreme outbreeder phenotype that is wired to see the entirety of society as kin which is why they seek out racial, gender, religious, etc equality. Also some people who are wired to be inbred can be brainwashed to be SJWs because I think inbred people tend to be more conformist if they want to fit into an 'ingroup'. By saying Western populatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 04:07 AM
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Well red pill people from what I've gathered from these blogs, are more individualistic in terms of their family but are less interested in the commonweal, whereas blue pillers are the opposite way around. I see a strong similarity between the bunker dwelling prepper libertarian in the rural US and a bunker dwelling prepper aka subsistence farmer in parts of Africa and Asia, and both of these guys are interested in guns, God, grains and a hatred of the government. They have a lot of kids and bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 08:33 PM
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I think there needs to be a balance of the two, like here in the US, which is why I support freedom of immigration. People who don't like it can move elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 07:29 PM
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Yes the wall is real for sure, but don't think of it like a 40 year old should date an 18 year old. It becomes harder for women to have kids after age 35, despite all the celebrities having kids at age 50. Men also have a wall but it's much later. I think the optimal age for marriage, for both guys and girls is the mid to late 20s, although that's discouraged in our society and economy unless you're the boring guy who goes to college right out of high school and med / law school right out of col…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 06:29 PM
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Yes but with reservations. A lot of women who have a lower educational level prefer cocky 'bad boys' however women with a degree tend to seek beta. I think this is because a lot of people in lower educational levels have kids before, rather than after marriage and also being a badboy is a more socially accepted form of masculinity in proletarian culture. So the concentration of people who appear alpha is much higher in the inner city. For all races. There was a book called Black Rednecks that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 05:29 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 05:27 PM
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I think the Catholic church had a lot of similarities to today's big government that the right wing complains about. For example, welfare and there was a gay ghetto i.e. the priesthood (no offense). I saw on some conservative blogs that they were calling the liberal big government 'the cathedral' lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 05:13 PM
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Yeah people in China are probably less clannish than people in Mongolia because there was a big government there, it's the same with North India which is more clannish than South India, afaik South India had big government. I read part of a book on Mongolia, Secret History of the Yuan Dynasty and it seemed like Mongolians had a real emphasis on who their cousins were. Also I heard North India was more sexist than South India. Big government means that people can move around safely. People moving…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 04:56 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 04:46 PM
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Not all guys like short girls, note the popularity of runway models. Many guys do not want to date short girls because they don't want their son to be short. I don't think women like fat men either. The average American is considered fat by medical science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 04:24 PM
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Lel. It's more like I read the Redpill group and sites like Rational Male, understand where they're coming from but have not had the same experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 06:15 PM
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Yeah always purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 04:49 PM
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I think much of RP views all feminists as the most extreme of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:32 PM
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I think it will make most women dislike men. I think blue pill is a better method for most people. The pill is changing colors in my stomach from red to blue. I think it makes people lose faith in their neighbors too and become cynical like hardcore rappers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:04 PM
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I think it's grammatically correct in English for the word "men" to refer to humans in general while "women" is a subset of "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 04:59 PM
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Well a lot of racism in today's society is against immigrants, because they are from other nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 12:02 AM
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Did you disaggregate felonies from misdemeanors?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 06:00 PM
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I was pretty sure you knew how to use Google. I didn't want to insult you. There are also way more Indians than Japanese or Vietnamese in the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_the_United_States http://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:41 PM
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Indian immigrants are actually a really large percentage of the Asian population. Like 30-40%. Over 80% of Asian Americans are foreign born. Less than 10% of African Americans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:36 PM
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African immigrants are a very small percentage of the black population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:26 PM
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Ceteris paribus? Or do you mean poor black people moving into a rich white neighborhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:14 PM
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It's an important legal distinction. You can only call it racism when it's against citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:14 PM
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Is this about the racism thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 05:10 PM
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From what I know, African Americans are pretty thoroughly admixed between various African populations, Native American and European ancestry, even more than White Americans in many parts of the US who may be, for example, predominantly Irish or Italian. I think outbreeding selects against tribalism actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 03:31 PM
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Is that why African immigrants have the highest percentage of graduate degree holders?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 03:28 PM
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I bet if you controlled for geographic distribution it will disappear. I bet this is a big-government issue. And I don't mean blue vs red states, I mean urban vs rural and their concomitant attitudes toward government, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 03:24 PM
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I think radical feminism is the female version of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 02:25 PM
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I think that's a myth, like that some Asian nationalities are all martial arts experts. I think it's also that black people are more likely than other people to get harassed by cops for alleged crimes like smoking weed because minorities are more likely to live in cities. Weed smoking is popular in cities because it's relaxing, a lot of urban residents work in stressful jobs such as finance. I think people in the burbs drink more beer, which is legal whereas weed is not. I bet if you broke down …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:51 PM
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At that time that part of the American continent was technically part of the Native American nations, not under US jurisdiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:34 AM
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I don't think that's true. There are plenty of white hooligans as well as black thugs. For every black crack head there is a white meth head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:46 PM
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No it's more like red vs yellow lions. The genetic difference between a white guy and a black guy is not as large as that between a lion and a stag. Also in the Indian wars and Japanese wars it was actually a matter of different countries fighting. Race usually means black vs white and its within one country.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:42 PM
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Because if there is a black guy and a white guy both equally qualified for the same position, why should there be a Jim Crow law that states that one of them couldn't get it because of his color? Segregation caused the economy to lose a lot of talent because black and native american people couldn't go to white schools - and black schools didn't offer the same programs. During the racist era in America black people had to go to black doctors - but very few medical schools took black students. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 09:29 PM
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I think racial prejudice is irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 08:32 PM
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Okay but I am just saying that men and women are often called immature for different reasons. A woman can be considered mature in the male sense but viewed as immature in the female sense. A woman who is financially responsible and has expertise in various skills, and grows in the strength of her work, can still be viewed as alien, incomplete etc. because they aren't "warm", do not have 'emotional intelligence' or cannot pick up 'social cues'. A man who is the same is just viewed as geeky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 06:23 PM
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Sexism is when I don't see women's hormone therapy for sale anywhere online but all the research chemical sites are filled with Nolvadex and Androsterone for men's fitness. Sexism is when girls in various ethnic families such as Asian, Hispanic and African regularly have earlier curfews than their brothers, and this is enforced by not just male but female relatives. Sexism is when buzzing your head to be comfortable in the summertime is seen as inappropriate for work. Sexism is when your fiance …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 06:07 PM
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Except that a lot of women are called as immature and an eternal teenager even though their behavior is the same as a guy's at the same age. A woman with a nice net worth and who has skills like programming, is still considered immature if she can't pick up social cues and doesn't get along with young kids. But a guy can be into that and just be considered a geek or good with money and his wife can take care of the other stuff. Also a woman who doesn't know about what like, Louis Vuitton is, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 05:52 PM
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no man anyone can be the prize. girls fight over guys all the time lol. srsly i bet justin bieber thinks hes a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 03:05 PM
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Well it's actually a parody using HP to teach about cognitive biases and thinking in a way that, I guess, is based around probability. It's by the guy from LessWrong. I don't agree with him a hundred percent but it's a good read and made me think about how I look at things - and whether or not the way I automatically think is rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 02:19 AM
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I'm purple pill. Some self help books that appeal to me right now, but have nothing to do with sex are: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, Moonwalking With Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:54 PM
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Hypergamy is trading up. Basically when girls go after guys who are rich, tall or buff. I would say guys do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:48 PM
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Another tip to meet boys / girls is to cultivate interests in stuff the opposite sex tends to like. For example mostly boys play games like WoW, LoL, and CS and you can meet boys there. Boys can meet girls in predominantly girls activities such as Fanfiction. Also look beyond indicators such as hottness and money and see what other activities you guys have in common or can share, such as clipping coupons, making food or growing a plant. Not just sex and making out. Also improve your personal lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 07:53 PM
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Someone who had a wild life can definitely turn it around. I think that RP's predictions that "hoes ain't loyal" is based around their experiences. But who is to say that one cannot honestly make a life change? However, having the self discipline to turn one's life around is quite difficult. I was a foreveralone in my early 20s and then in a relationship for the end of that. However, I doubt I married "well" according to most ppl considering that my boyfriend / fiance has even less money than I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 07:36 PM
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Avoiding stop and frisk if you're a minority, avoiding Selective Service and most regular urban fistfights though that's changing (women are getting into more bar and fist fights). People also don't diss you as much for being a virgin or call you gay for not drinking beer all the time. As hard as it is to get female hormone supplements since Goldpharma started failing, it's more expensive and there is more shaming involved in buying male hormone supplements such as androsterone. People use euphe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:39 PM
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I don't think women are behind in terms of getting college degrees. I think young women have more degrees than young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:36 PM
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You're assuming that women can't be derided as virgins and basement-dwelling neckbeards, when we quite frequently are. Some women are pompous jerks and many people of all genders are sexually inactive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:56 PM
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I think that purple and red pill people forget that SJWs - formerly called radical feminists - have always been around, from the 1960s women's lib movement to the 1890s women's suffrage movement. One could also say that radical feminism goes back to 'Lysistrata' lol. Affirmative action / racial quotas may have started in the '60s in the US, but there's evidence of racial quota systems in the Persian, Ottoman, Mongolian, and other Eastern empires dating back to the Dark Ages. I believe that red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:13 PM
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I think this issue applies to both guys and girls and is not really a red pill, blue pill issue but one about social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:40 PM
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Lol. Actually I'm interested in having much thinner thighs and calves and a bigger booty, with slim hips. The 'fake' look. Eh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:18 AM
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Around 10 lbs because I use small dumbbells. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:57 AM
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Yes. And I stated what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:53 AM
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I don't care as long as he doesn't have a high chance of dying within the next 5 years like age 75-80 and is legal age. When I was in high school one girl I know was 18 and dated a 42 year old guy we met on a music forum, which I thought was weird at the time but now I don't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:43 AM
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My fiance is almost ideal but I had to train him to be into the stuff I'm interested in such as amassing shelf stable foods. Basically no cigarettes with the windows closed, no hard drugs, no stealing, interested in cheap stuff and bulk buys. No fanatical religion Must not mind "boring" activities like watching wildlife, no rampant consumerism like obsessed with Jordans, top selling video games, collecting random stuff etc. No animal hoarders like guys with over 10 pets unless you have a large p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:18 AM
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I see grooming, whether it's makeup or putting on a suit, as a way of showing respect to people around you and dressing for success. Not as a sex thing. There is also makeup, skincare and grooming for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:29 PM
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I agree with the theory that having more than one adult in the house leads to a better childhood and feel that uncertain paternity is a bad idea for public health, mostly because kids won't know if they're marrying their siblings or not. However I don't think this is an all-male thing, or that single mothers don't save money. I think single parents are less likely to save money because there are fewer adults in the house paying bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:27 PM
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I read that some time ago and feel there should be more custody for fathers but am not sure about the rest of the site. I'm not sure religion is the answer. There's no real evidence for a deity actually existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:03 PM
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Well I am cuddly enough as a single discrete tribble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:52 PM
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LOL dont do that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:49 PM
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Well I'm actually a tribble colony. If I am hit with a phaser I turn into a zillion regular sized tribbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:44 PM
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Wow so OPP means the opposite of what the Naughty-by-Nature song implied. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:32 PM
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Wait a minute... doesn't OPP mean "Other people's Pu$$y"? As in the song "Are you down with OPP" Cuz that's what I meant... o_O
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:26 PM
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I think guys have a higher sex drive on average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:29 PM
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Not intrinsically, but there is a societal preference for women to look early-20s and for men to look late-20s. Maybe that's due to biologyz.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:27 PM
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How much do u lift
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:21 PM
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Can confirm. In my early 20s I was rejected for being a virginluser and to this day sometimes complain about the oversexualization of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:13 PM
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which is a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:06 PM
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How old are you d00d? I've heard of the swingers phenomenon among the hippie generation but don't know anyone under age 50 who is into it. Also, do you go to a special dating site or are you able to get random people to be down with OPP via regular dating sites like ok cupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:02 PM
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what do u think are the long term consequences of the out of wedlock rate in modern society
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:59 PM
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isn't tumblr for pr0n?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:58 PM
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Or is it diameter? Inquiring minds would like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:57 PM
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Purple pill female, early 30's luser sperglord monogamous n00b and a prude in a relationship with another prude. AMA
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:56 PM
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Are you down with OPP?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:54 PM
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Poly means u spin plates? How do you get women to agree to this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:52 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:09 PM
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I think the wall definitely exists, although as someone who was overweight and ill-groomed until post-wall age, it did not play much of a factor in my life. Moreover, I think the wall exists for both men and women. This isn't really just about dating, either, but for careers. Employers and investors like pre-wall people because they're simply seen as more energetic. Modern society glorifies the 18-24 or 18-30 age because of the prominence of the SMP in our sex-soaked society. All lovely things w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:28 PM
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I think you should read about the history of Mexican Americans
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:01 PM
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I'm going to put Wikipedia here, which is hardly a source but it will probably suffice for your thick skull. "The Act set no limits on immigration from Latin American countries." Before a Hispanic / other category was added to the census, afaik Hispanics were classified as white (because they weren't black). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:57 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:51 PM
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I support the fat and short acceptance movements, why should people care so much about the body
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:49 PM
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Then why didn't they restrict Latin American or African immigration at all before 1965?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:45 PM
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I wonder why they didn't stop immigration from Latin America in 1924.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:22 PM
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Ellis Island was a small and manageable amount? There's evidence that the Southern and Eastern European immigrants changed the East Coast political and social system far more than Mexicans or any other Hispanic group is changing the US today. BTW - the theory that American culture was somehow homogeneous at any time is bunk, look up the book Albion's Seed - even the original groups of British settlers had way different lifestyles from each other than blacks and whites today. Moreover, many South…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:03 PM
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Source? This doesn't sound like anyone I know (second generation getting on welfare). Anecdotally, among people I know of all ethnicities, if somebody's parents are poor immigrants they're more driven to succeed. Whether that's trade school or college, it's still hard work. The only consistent pattern I've seen in children of immigrants is that they might forget their parents native language lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:34 PM
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Because immigrants and their descendants, once they've established themselves in inner city areas and learned a little English, are now buying houses in more varied places. So even though net migration from Mexico has been zero for the past two years, they are spreading out over the country just like European immigrants gradually spread out from New York in the 1900s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:20 PM
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Well I have mental disorders and personality defects, but am not promiscuous. In fact it makes me less able to pick up boys because of the "don't stick your d**k in crazy" rule. I would say the opposite is probably more likely, since neurotypical people are better at flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:14 PM
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Except that the total fertility rate in Mexico is roughly the same as that in the US and Latin American culture is not as sexist as stereotypes imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:12 PM
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Thanks for all your advice on this thread. I do not want to leave it up because it can be construed as inflammatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:49 PM
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I meant, diagnosed in childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:35 PM
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In the groups I've been in, this behavior was more in the omega section of the group but usually betas don't do creative things as much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:30 PM
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Thanks for all your replies and food for thought when it comes to this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:21 PM
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As a classical liberal and bluepill, I feel one thing we could do is eliminate paid leave, period. Let people leave temporarily but don't pay them extra for it. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:14 PM
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What would be the purpose of women 'psychological warfare'? I think this has been done to me before but I probably didn't pick up on it. I take things at face value and it's difficult to do otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:12 PM
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I mean that's ok when you're an adolescent (college).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:04 PM
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My original diagnosis is childhood autistic disorder, I self identify as Asperger's as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:58 PM
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I think that your #2 is a substantive reply because many people in the arts take Charlie Sheen, Lindsay Lohan, even Van Gogh etc as role models. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:52 PM
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We aren't hanging out in a bar. This behavior has occurred in every arts collective I've been in. It would also be highly dysgenic for me to have a kid before CRISPR comes out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:40 PM
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This is in every group I've encountered. Hard to avoid when it's everywhere. I'm wondering, as an Aspie who doesn't understand social rules yet is going into the arts industry. What can I say that won't be a wet-blanket? Moreover, sometimes I make a suggestion but they don't listen to what I say, until someone who is viewed as a real person says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:36 PM
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This isn't hazing but pure unsporting behavior that is present in a minority of the population - and it gets worse the more time you spend with them. I've run into this in many different groups of people, and there are women who are like this as well, but differently. Like I was dieting, and one of my female friends told me that it won't work This confused me because weight loss is calories in, calories out. I lost the weight. But I don't know why what she said, gave me such an unsportsmanlike v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:30 PM
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It's not really the disrespect that is the issue, it's the unsporting conduct. Sex jokes are fine. These are also not friends-friends but more like colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:22 PM
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This is more like amateur arts. They're not getting paid, I was just looking for folks to collaborate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:10 PM
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Thx
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:08 PM
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I'm talking about unsportsmanlike conduct, not regular shit-talk. Things like thinking it's funny to blow pot into a policeman's face and that getting arrested is funny Bestiality videos can be funny if they're just like, ha ha once, but they're repeating it like a broken record.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:08 PM
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This is exclusively in the arts. I sometimes think things on 4chan, or Chris Rock's jokes about race and sex, are funny. But this is something I've mostly seen it in artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:05 PM
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No, I think that economic opportunities have shrank more for young guys than for young girls and this is causing more boys to see their future as hopeless, and to participate in crime. I think that RP is a response to this as much as feminism and BP are. But make no mistakes, this is a 99% issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:03 PM
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A man being a stud might be disrespected by some men, but he will probably not suffer negative consequences in terms of other aspects of his life: such as hiring decisions and buying a home. A man posing nude will not be shunned by corporate HR like a woman posing for Playboy would, unless it were in a gay publication. A man who happens to be a porn star can buy in any neighborhood, whereas some people won't sell real estate in a "family neighborhood" to a known female porn star. The sluttiness …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:59 PM
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It's less than 10% of men who behave this way, and they seem to be concentrated in the arts. It seems to be really unavoidable when you want to work on something creative and positive. I'm talking about stuff that goes beyond BB.com/misc. Like alienating a Jewish member because one "key member" of the arts collective constantly talks about "the elders of Zion" being related to the "Annunaki". I am wondering what the red-pill or blue-pill explanation is of this behavior up to age 30, 40 or 50 in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:33 PM
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I think that an excessive focus on sex is a degeneration of society. Not only does it lead to STDs and people having kids out of wedlock, but it leads to people being shallow, scamming (AFBB) and racism (KKK's raison d'etre, afaik was that they were jealous of black men 'stealing' white women). I think people need to think with their big head rather than their lower head lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:49 PM
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Nah, I just live in one of the 'blue states'. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:13 AM
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I am trying to train myself out of non neurotypical behaviors and stop talking about neckbeard topics outside of reddit. My economic views are seen as offensive so I don't talk about them anymore. A lot of people around me view religion, public sector unions, and gun control as sacred cows so I have to avoid libertarian-like topics offline. My fiance gets pissed off when I use vocabulary that he doesn't understand so I'm trying to use smaller words when I talk. I'm trying to tailor my topics of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 07:53 PM
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afaik, more people are simply not getting married than are divorcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 03:49 PM
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I think the arrow of causation goes the other way. I think early marriage among people with lower educational levels is caused by a favorable social and economic environment. The reason they're not getting married is because they can't find steady work and affordable housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 03:43 PM
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There are some TRP posts that are geared toward Asian guys, but many of the ideas can be applied to a variety of immigrant backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 03:27 PM
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absolutely not, alimony shouldn't be involved unless there are children and the custodial parent is destitute
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 03:25 PM
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I'm purple pill but identify with feminism because in a red pill society, i wouldn't be able to make a lot of the hobby choices i currently make. maybe this is selfish / hypocritical of me, since i agree with some redpill ideas (for example, the widespread decoupling of childbirth and marriage can be destabilizing to society as a whole - but single motherhood is a choice i'm probably going to make when i start a family, for tax planning reasons) it would be challenging for me to participate in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 03:16 PM
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Hi, I am on the autism spectrum and my fiance is not autistic. Basically I have to do a lot of explaining, self advocacy and also get him to read some books about it. It has been a bit of a long process because it involves reading a lot of books and he's dyslexic. But don't lose hope. Like all relationships it takes work. FWIW, I do not thinking trying to act "normal" or trying to read "cues" is productive for folks on the spectrum. It's like being in the closet about being gay, I guess. i think…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/15 07:28 PM
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I have not had an ONS, FWB or marriage before. I just always looked for someone I could hang out with who didn't have a problem with me and didn't have a sexual disease. I started dating in my mid 20s but was unsuccessful for a long time as a luser and foreveralone. You have to be clean by using a fresh condom every time. Do not use an old condom even if you wash it. I have "odd" habits, that some people disrespect, like bulk storage of food, taking nootropic supplements, and keeping computer ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 05:54 PM
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Don't keep chasing after high SMV women. The rest of us need love, too. Or, get into female-friendly interests and let the girls chase you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 05:42 PM
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I would say the lowest hanging fruit in terms of avoiding the wall is using a zinc oxide based facial sunscreen in the morning
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 05:54 PM
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Cue this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3g6tTYoxM
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 05:42 PM
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I think it's that RPers and BPers mean different things when they say feminism. Just like when you say, 'if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound', yes or no depends on how you define sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 05:09 PM
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Guys saying AWALT is basically the equivalent of women saying that all men are dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 12:53 AM
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There are also female equivalents of the Red Pill that are equally bad. For example there was inter-female fighting in my high school that had to do with intersexual competition. I don't have a problem with PUAs as long as they do not bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 12:50 AM
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Heh, not everyone starts dating at age 20. Some of us start in our late 20s due to a confluence of social awkwardness and other factors, like being extremely focused on special interests and work. Or, strict families (especially immigrant backgrounds). A lot of people don't start dating until the age they move out, which could be 28, 30, 32. Guys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:56 PM
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I'm around 30 and there is no way in hell I'm interested in getting married - especially as my net worth grows. Especially since I've had years where I've itemized my tax return. Both parties have to itemize if there is marriage. Marriage filing separately is the worst status ever. Single parent is the best. Most women in my neighborhood have children either before marriage or without marrying at all so why stick to old, conservative norms? I started dating casually at age 25 and am now on my fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:50 PM
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I think it is considered more acceptable for women to start dating at an older age than men because people want to reduce the gap between the beginning of a woman's dating life and the wedding day. It's seen as more ok to be 25 and a virgin, as a woman than as a man. Everything from cohabitation to flirting, to dressing inappropriately is seen as more acceptable for men than for women even above age 21. In my experience, this is equally controlled by moms and dads. I think it's because of a risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:36 PM
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Yeah, people are creeped out by cougars but they dislike losers / socially retarded and ugly people even more afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:29 PM
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I'm an awkward Aspie who doesn't know how dating works. Having lurked on both the red and blue pill perspectives, it confuses me somewhat and I need actionable advice for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 11:26 PM
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I've done itemized filing before and may be subject to the Alternative Minimum Tax in the future, and my fiance (colloquial term for commonlaw spouse around here) isn't an undocumented immigrant. There are no benefits for me to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:45 PM
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I think that while AF and BB is an issue, some guys are spoiled by models and porn. BTW. I am female and was incel foreveralone throughout my early to mid 20s. Plenty of girls are incel too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:43 PM
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As a woman who grew up unattractive until losing weight and going on a prescription acne medication in my late 20s to early 30s, I feel that this is a double edged sword. On one hand, women in general have more safety nets such as the possibility of marrying rich old men, and men are more likely to be in dirty, dangerous jobs. But on the other hand, the female 'privilege' is restricted to a narrow set of women. It applies to you the more you are able to conform to hegemonic ideas of femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:32 PM
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I strongly recommend the site Essential Day Spa if you are seeing signs of aging at your age. People there know a lot about anti aging stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm a late 20s female and my fiance is older than me. However I'm an omega and he's a beta so it fits because he's post-wall. I guess I'm purple pill. We have the same interests and are into the same activities like chess, acoustic guitar and discount stores. I tried to date one or two boys my age before but one of them was a low talker. There was no way I could understand what he was saying. In fact I've encountered more than one low talker / mumbler. Moreover, not to stereotype, but guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 05:39 PM
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I would like to minimize the SMP - period. Part of the reason Red Pill reactionary thought came to be, and part of the reason for many women being involved in everything from slut shaming to slut walks is that so much of modern society is dominated by the SMP. I have a feeling that racism also comes from the SMP - one of the predominant forms of racist violence in the past century has been lynching of black men thought to be having sex with white women. I would like for sex to become much less i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 05:19 PM
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I don't think this is true. I think Sheryl Sandberg's Lean In is an example of libertarian and conservative feminism. However, academic feminism has a strong Marxist tinge because academia itself has a strong Marxist tinge. A lot of not just gender, but also ethnic studies came out of left and labor movements. Feminism and stuff are progressive, and progressive thought has become increasingly entwined with economic leftism in recent years. However, this wasn't always the case. Progressivism was …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 05:14 PM
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Yeah I agree with you, like there's always going to be tomboys and sissies or at the extreme ends of those, genderqueer people and they're not going to be the majority of the population. I think that whether gender differences are biological or sociological is immaterial, as long as you don't drink the kool aid and think that you have to be one way or another. Gender is also constructed differently in different societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 04:21 AM
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How would they enforce it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 09:22 PM
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I see it as not good or bad, but just a phenomenon. It's not exactly new, either. Caligula, Messalina, etc. ring a bell? The pendulum of puritanism keeps swinging back and forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 09:20 PM
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No, I feel that society placing more value on attractive, than unattractive people is highly detrimental. After going on a diet and an acne cream, the treatment I get from the general public is night and day. This shows that people suck. How many people's skills and contributions are devalued because they are considered ugly? The money that is spent on Kardashian-related products, plastic surgery, and other fripperies could feed millions of starving children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 09:17 PM
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I think a huge part of TRP's origin is that a lot of young men are losing ground in this economy. Moreover, guys are disproportionately targeted by policies such as stop and frisk, as well as the overdiagnosis of ADHD. As a result, socially constructed gender roles have become skewed as young women are earning more than young men. It's hard when social norms change within one or two generations, and it causes a reaction. For example, race riots occurred when immigrants and African Americans from…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 09:10 PM
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