| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 21 | [FR] Daygame, Two girls | giraffe_dance | /r/seduction | 22/09/11 03:06 PM | |
| 2 | Dealing With Rejection | giraffe_dance | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 12:59 AM |
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 1 | Starting to get discouragedThis! | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:55 AM |
| 0 | Starting to get discouragedNo, I don't think he needs to move to different city. He just needs to talk to more people. Unless he lives in a village, there's available women out there he hasn't met. | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Starting to get discouragedTalk to more girls, don't be so selective. Talk to ugly girls. Talk to guys. I'm assuming you don't have a large social circle, or that social circle is relatively stagnant, and your friends generally don't meet new people. And yes, "taking time off" to improve if things aren't going so well is a great idea. Just, don't really take time off, always be receptive to social interaction. Girls LOVE to feel like they were lucky to bump into a busy guy on his way to do fufilling, exciting, life-affirm… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:45 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsOh, DEFINITELY. Nail on the head. If I'm pretending that I can just talk about her looks, but I drift off into daydreaming about her heavenly eyes and drop dead gorgeous body, then I'm being fake and yes, it falls apart very quickly. But once you get over the approach anxiety , and start talking, you see that she is a person, and every person has boring things about their personality. :) What's is the hardest is finding a way not to get lost in her facial beauty while talking. ESPECIALLY if I'm … | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:37 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsAgain, well said! But I think since, as I just pointed out, many people (including myself) tend to have various definition of what constitutes true wit, it's sometimes better to just explain what one means through an example or two. Especially since the wit we are looking for should NOT just make people laugh, it should also help build a specific connection with a target. Yes, sometimes just being witty naturally will increase your value, but other times you need to focus the wit in a particular… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:19 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsHaha, good point! So I decided to stop lurking. Don't consider myself an AFC though. But I upvote "misguided, naive" AFC posts because I think they can be interesting for us to argue and talk about. And lol, what is the "nofap" movement?? Just those posts about how not masturbating will increase testosterone and lead to superhuman sarging abilities? | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:14 AM |
| 3 | A Rant on NegsGuys react emotionally stronger to different things than girls. We are more attached to such values strength, masculinity, confidence and success. If I called you a pathetic loser fag it would probably be more insulting than calling you fat. Which, ironically, this thread proves my point exactly. Sed5 attacks OP's masculinity with "oozes AFC", and tactics says "you sound like a girl saying that". Let me be Barney for a sec and just say, try to imagine that being called fat to a girl is like you … | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:12 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsA bit of a rant but I forgive you man. :) I definitely agree the most with your last point: my first girlfriend, somehow I naturally did everything PUA would do. It was incredible, and led to a great LTR. Afterwards, I made the huge mistake of trying follow the same steps I did with her when trying to pick up new women. But life's not like that, each girl like a bit different. It's like they're all guitars, just tuned different. That's when I turned to this community, and discovered I could cons… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 03:04 AM |
| 2 | A Rant on NegsBAD? That was an awesome opener! She's practically begging to get attention with her clothes. Follow up next time! | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:52 AM |
| 2 | A Rant on NegsI think telling a girl she's pretty is very safe, and doesn't involve any emotions. That's why it's so dull and unattractive. But saying something like, "Look, I spotted you just three seconds ago and I couldn't take my eyes off you!" is putting yourself out there. It's saying she's not just pretty, but SPECIAL, DIFFERENT in some way. Maybe you still get the cold shoulder, because she now has her guard up a bit. BUT, inside she'll be curious: "He couldn't take his eyes off me! Am I really THAT b… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:47 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsI know it's classic ironclad rule to not reveal you think a really hot woman is attractive, but I say fuck that. What I do is I say "Do you think you're hot?" Usually, women say no. Then I go all out, and say things like "You're a ten. I'd make love to you right now, here on the bar!" with the widest grin. She usually is a bit uncomfortable about this, but I move right on to something else. I feel better because the attraction is out there, AND it opens the emotional door in the conversation. Ma… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:34 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsA neg shouldn't be considered "bringing a girl down." It's simply a statement of EQUALITY, and a CHALLENGE to her to qualify/defend herself. It's basically saying "Yo, I own myself, I like you, but you can't push me around." Guys do this shit all the time to each other, "insulting" each other and crap, just to show that they're on equal footing. It's a signifier stating "Hey, respect me, ok?" and "I think your strong enough to take my challenges." So it's actually a subtle COMPLIMENT. Secondly, … | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Why can't I stop acting needy and scaring them off?People conflate the abundance attitude with indifference attitude. There are not the same thing. If I'm talking to 20-30 girls, plus I have a busy real life, I simply may not get around to talking to such and such girl for a week or two or more. It DOESN'T mean I'm not interested in the girl, and girls instinctively know and respect that! TIME is not important, ACTIONS are. The "isn't paying attention to me" worry is an INSECURITY, and NOT how women see men at all. They actually with think "Man,… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why can't I stop acting needy and scaring them off?Great thing about the screening qualifiers! I'll try to use that next time...so many wide ranging applications, and so easy to use. "Oh, you like movies? I love a girl that likes movies!" hehe. Obviously you don't want to seem like you're wanting her to like you more, but I think it's really useful as a IOI. | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:09 AM |
| 1 | A Rant on NegsHaha, well said! But, in my mind wit is a concept I associate purely with entertainment. A witty person may not necessarily have a high degree of tact and sensitivity, although it's certaintly more likely given the level of social awareness, mental plasticity and creativeness needed to pull off sudden one-liners. In other words, a witty statement may make a woman feel uncomfortable, even if she genuinely finds it funny. What I mean is, I know guys there are really witty, but they can alienate so… | /r/seduction | 20/09/11 02:06 AM |
| -1 | A Rant on NegsI get what you're saying here, and I agree positivity is definitely something to pursue. It makes you feel better. But what is also beautiful is being able to joke about things that otherwise people are too pussyfooted to approach. In this example, after finding out her issues, I wouldn't run away from this girls issues, I'd maybe say something like "man, some people beat up on others to let out frustration, but u beat up on yourself? I respect that. Hell, i beat up on myself too. looks down at … | /r/seduction | 19/09/11 02:44 PM |
| 3 | A Rant on NegsThanks frogma for giving a clear example of what a neg is... | /r/seduction | 19/09/11 02:37 PM |
| 7 | Why can't I stop acting needy and scaring them off?I'm definitely done this most of my life as an AFC, and I thought it had a lot to do with being too emotional, and stating my desires. But then I read some posts on here about being vulnerable, and then I was like, "Woah, can I really admit to a girl I think she's blazing hot, that I want to fuck her like crazy?" I just posted on this yesterday, in greater length. Furthermore, I think needy stems from insecurity, NOT desire. You get needy not because you're so full of desire for something, but b… | /r/seduction | 19/09/11 02:27 PM |
| 11 | Told a girl that I liked her. Is it beyond repair/not worth it?You can tell a girl you like her, AS LONG AS it's not important, and should be a part of a natural conversation. It should not become the focus, and should just serve to escalate things. I know, disinterest and what Bobsutan said, SHOWING her are definitely better. But I've definitely been able to say to women, HB9s too, that I liked them without hurting my chances at all. The key was I was clear to show that I didn't depend on them to reciprocate. Think of like in the movies when the guy or gir… | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Dealing With RejectionThanks! I was a bit confused by "cody_au", but I see also by your statement "It helps to have something tangible when you need to justify your own value" that I guess I was implying that you need to exercise to prove your worth... That's not what I was trying to say, nor what I believe! I believe someone could not exercise at all and be secure in themselves. But, isn't it possible to be hurt and yet still be confident about who you are? I'm sometimes surprised by the logical force of people's ar… | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Getting "In State"Hehe, if you're trying to be honest, I'd say AAFC (Above average). hehe | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Dealing With RejectionHah, I'm not a gym junkie! And I never said exercise cures all. My post is about dealing with the emotional fallout from rejection(s). It's not really so much about how to pick up girls, although I did touch a bit on that by stating how I think it's ok to be vulnerable, that it will help your social and love life. But plenty of others have posted on that recently. I'm not sure why you're tone is so defensive! Having a bad day mate? hehe edit: "...brainwashed by society that you have to do someth… | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 07:15 AM |
| 1 | How do you friendzone girls without looking like you're afraid of escalation?I can't provide a definite answer, but for me personally it has paid to cultivate a stronger friendship with someone alongside escalation and closing. As guys or PUAs or whatever, we really stay a bit too focused on closing, during or after we don't necessarily lay the groundwork for trust and respect. There definitely is a strong fear that if you get too close, or open up to a girl, she's going to lose interest. I think girls can admire and respect a PUA if he continues to show warmth, attentio… | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Getting "In State"I agree wholeheartedly with all the above, except the last one...shouldn't you be saying you are the Conqueror of All Beautiful Women, not an AFC? Attitude, baby, attitude :) | /r/seduction | 18/09/11 06:56 AM |
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