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The dymanics between males and females aren't even comparible to the dynamics between white people and black people...
/r/EverydayMisandry02/07/26 06:52 AM
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Having to do unpaid military service and having to be called to military again (at least paid this time) because I'm male and they need my profession.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/06/26 01:13 PM
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Someone replying: "but women attempt more" literally happens faster than a bacteria reaching to a wallet dropped on the ground.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/06/26 01:08 PM
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That the vast majority of celebrities, politicans etc fail...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 09:49 AM
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I agree, a lot of men are very ignorant, for thinking it's a lot safer for them out there.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 05:43 AM
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You might not have those beliefs but many influential figures of feminist movement do unfortunately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 04:45 AM
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Wasn't there a similar study that got similar results for women?
/r/EverydayMisandry02/06/26 04:38 AM
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All major parties in UK are really bad when it comes to men's issues, vote based on their other policies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 12:39 PM
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"Those boys usually deserve it" I was an honour student and this still happened to me lmao.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/26 03:44 PM
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This person has no idea how the evolution and genetics work
/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/26 06:28 AM
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not actually Dutch lol, I took this username in a time when I was in touch with quite a few nice people from the Netherlands.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/04/26 09:11 PM
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Isnt feminism supposed to fight for men's rights to be feminine too? them claiming that is purely performative
/r/EverydayMisandry11/04/26 06:08 PM
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You forget the rule #1 of gender discourse: If a woman says something misandrist it's satire/joke/ragebait, if a man says something misogynist it's serious and also somehow represents the views of all men I cannot count how many times I see something incredibly misandrist said by a feminist woman and people run to excuse it claiming it's satire, joke, ragebait etc even though they never ever have a disclaimer stating that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 05:30 PM
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I appreciated his documentary on Palestine but like many leftists/progressives his takes on gender issues were abyssmal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 04:38 PM
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if the boy was 12 it wouldn't be much different
/r/EverydayMisandry08/04/26 04:37 AM
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This comment was reported for generalizing language and I won't remove it because "A lot of women" does not imply all women nor even the most this should also be a good example of what is allowed and not.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/04/26 04:30 AM
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The problem with feminism is not that it's not doing enough to raise awareness and fix men's issues, personally I don't even expect them to. The problem is they are activelly ereasing male victims, advocating against progress for males and engaging in hate speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 11:16 AM
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Wasn't she also the one who said something similar to "Bashing men in songs is a good idea for popularity"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 03:55 PM
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There are crazy people out there but thankfully the hype of woman >> men is dying now. The first few people who came out saying woman aren't better at men at everything were ridiculed and dragged through the mud but now more and more people are seeing this to be real. Just relax and move slow. The insane people will eventually show their bias and be pushed aside. All the change I'm witnessing so far is the exact opposite of what you mentioned if anything it's the people who say that men aren't i…
/r/MensRights10/03/26 09:36 AM
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it's all intentional
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/26 05:57 AM
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You are just denying the evidence shown to your face by claiming men don't face discrimination. There is not a single country in the world that forcefully conscripts women except for Israel and even Israel make them serve shorter and deploy them in safer positions while there are many countries that forcibly conscript men. In every place that female genital mutiliation is legal so is male genital mutiliation but there is not single place on earth where FGM is legal but MGM is not. Yes black men …
/r/EverydayMisandry06/03/26 07:31 AM
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Males make up almost %100 of combatant casualties and also the majority of civilian casualties in vast majority of wars happened and happening around the world so yes it is fair to say they DO suffer more. Normally not my cup of tea to make comparisions but you the one tho brought up oppression olympics by stating that men don't face discrimination based on their gender. Being a victim of police brutality and sentencing gap for the same crimes correlate with gender 6 times more than they do with…
/r/EverydayMisandry06/03/26 07:08 AM
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It's not like the actual literature is all rainbows and sunshine either to put it very lightly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/26 02:30 PM
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What planet are you living on?
/r/EverydayMisandry28/02/26 06:08 AM
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It's possible they meant actresses as in that context in particular and the fact that they denied they meant it doesn't happen to actors instead of doubling down is already better than what most people do in that situation.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/26 06:01 AM
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That might not be the intention there to be honest, also did something happen to your previous account?
/r/EverydayMisandry20/02/26 07:42 PM
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give us some time, our brains can work as slow as sf25 sometimes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/26 06:44 AM
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it's full of low effort, barely on topic posts and ragebait and tolerates too much misogyny and misandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 08:00 PM
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in a nutshell I'd say better than before overall but benefitted the least from the progress
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/26 07:30 AM
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Can we stop calling every example of casual misandry as "rage bait" and start taking them seriously? No one does this for misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 05:46 AM
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And he is getting dogpiled in comment section lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 06:27 AM
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All new posts are automatically removed before approved by a mod
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 06:08 AM
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Also military service is unpaid, well it is actually paid but a fraction of minimal wage, usually less than what someone will be spending on cafeteria and stuff during their military service. And of course you will not be getting paid from whatever job you had before militaty even if it's a government job. There is an option to shorten your military service from 6 months to 1, by paying around a year's worth of minimal wage which is actually more profitable for people with decent income for the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 06:07 AM
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Sounds good in theory but lets imagine creating a space for exposing/reporting sexism in general... don't you think the discussion about misandry will be minimized and suppressed?
/r/EverydayMisandry17/12/25 04:08 PM
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Well Tories also mostly supported the idea that women should go to prison only in very extreme cases. It's just everyone is shit when it comes to topics like that so other policies should be considered when choosing who to support
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/25 04:06 PM
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Yes but lets not act like this only happens online and never in real life, many in education field face discrimination and prejudice in their work
/r/EverydayMisandry17/12/25 06:10 AM
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Reeves and Galloway are controversial figures in this sub too and they often get criticized harshly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/25 06:04 AM
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gyno-obstetric issues mostly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 02:24 PM
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A weird horseshoe between radical feminism and Jordan Peterson
/r/EverydayMisandry16/12/25 02:23 PM
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The biology argument is kinda silly, until like 100-150 years ago it was men who on average lived longer despite wars being more frequent. The "biological disposition" in this context is not really static but something that can change with technological advancements.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 06:10 AM
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I think there is a lot of ideological obfuscating, which diverts things away from men specifically, Can you elaborate on that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 06:03 AM
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seriously asking what even makes you assume good faith in a statement like that?
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/25 12:45 PM
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This post would make a fine contribution to r/leftwingmaleadvocates as well
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/25 12:43 PM
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a lot closer to mutually inclusive than mutually exclusive
/r/EverydayMisandry01/12/25 04:39 PM
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good thing is you don't actually have to date beings that you view as your predators
/r/EverydayMisandry01/12/25 04:38 PM
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That is not the case though, a rape simply not being proven is not enough (as it should not) to convict the accuaser of a false accusation, the false accusation must be proven as well (by confession or concrete evidence). That's how we reach the conclusion of only 2% of rape cases being false accusation because only 2% are proven to be false, similary rape also has a low conviction rate because it's not an easy crime to prove, vast majority of cases are neither proven right nor false
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 12:15 PM
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Still it's pretty poor wording (if not intentional) for that title.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 01:24 PM
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Another fell for it again award for right wing ''MRAs''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 10:39 AM
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Well the prominent figures and organizations aren't really more innocent for this than "reddit feminists" either, it's so easy to find dozens if not hundreds of hateful statements and discrimating actions by them. To me influential figures represent a movenent better than both self identified KAM feminists and self identified feminists who are more egalitarian, anyone can call themselves feminists but being regarded as an important figure in the movement is different.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/11/25 01:03 PM
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Not really, in a poll in Poland women were much more supportive for a male only draft than men were.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 04:52 PM
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And hundreds of examples of prominent feminist figures and organizations saying/doing deeply misandrist stuff can be pointed to your anecdotal evidence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 04:23 PM
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almost all members of 4B considers themselves as feminists, among other parts of the so called "manosphere" the ratio who identifies as MRA wouldnt even make 25%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 04:20 PM
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stop calling every example of misandry ragebait, there are lots of people who actually think like this
/r/EverydayMisandry19/11/25 04:56 AM
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I'm not gonna lie this is not the worst advice I've ever seen on this topic but the bar is really low.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/25 04:50 AM
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Pretty much all social media is like this though, and I hear similar stuff irl all the time.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/11/25 07:24 AM
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Don't worry sis, those rules are never enforced anyway.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/11/25 07:19 AM
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It's been like that for a while, never seen it being enforced though
/r/EverydayMisandry05/11/25 06:18 AM
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It's important to understand that this movement wasn't born out of hatred for men, but rather out of widespread misogyny in South Korea, both at the societal and state levels. I love how it's always a "reaction" "rage bait" or "venting frustration" when it comes to hatred towards men and boys from women. As if there is no widespread misandry in that country both at the societal and state level, we are talking about a country where there is 2 years of mandatory military service for all men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 11:08 AM
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Are you sure about that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 05:44 AM
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130 different feminist groups came together in support of Heard
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 05:43 AM
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A well written post backed up with citations about extremist misandrist groups of South Korea would be appreciated here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 07:33 AM
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Women are less likely to acknowledge female on male rape than men are.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/25 01:15 PM
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Because ignoring %80 of male victims of rape is something that benefits men at the expense of women am I right.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/25 01:03 PM
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We are already tone policing to a point that doing more would be perceived as "mods being power hungry" "no discussion is allowed in this echo chamber". If you see something that promotes hate based on immutable characteristic then report it and we'll remove it as soon as we see it, other than that I'm gonna remove any comment for not being "left-wing enough" for your taste, we are already removing severals posts a week for being low effort/off topic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 11:05 AM
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Popularization of anti-male rhetoric resulting in less empathy for males, who would've thought?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 12:14 PM
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iirc she was 19 and he was 16 but I don't have a concrete proof for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 12:13 PM
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Conscription, and absolutely no one takes issues like male victims of domestic and sexual abuse because majority of people don't believe it's possible, and many people from other countries believe it's impossible for men to be discriminated in any way in "patriarchal" middle eastern countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 07:10 AM
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We are not really expecting them to actively support, just standing a little out of our sunshine would suffice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 06:37 PM
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That difference in calories does not translate to much money tbh but UN's food programs (especially in disaster sites) prioritize "women and children" citing ridiculous reasons like "adult men don't share it with their families when given"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 04:52 AM
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removed and banned
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/25 03:43 PM
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I mean I think we should celebrate first that some men can actually become single fathers by choice, while a lot of single men can't even adopt a child before we start ranting about the state of society and marriage, let sociologists or tradcons or whatever complain about those issues, we are male advocates our job is not to fix the society or the institution of marriage, our job is to fight discrimination against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:51 PM
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Probably depends a little on the direction of the hate
/r/EverydayMisandry02/08/25 10:36 AM
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Although left wing policies are much better for men than right wing's, the left has a problem of not marketing it to men unlike the right...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 05:43 PM
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It seems like it's just better to pursue happiness elsewhere than romantic relationships.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 05:48 AM
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That sort of app should not exist for anyone period, it's sharing sensitive info about people without their consent and defaming them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 09:13 AM
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Well black people were disadvantaged in pretty much aspect while for gender, both men and women have had their unique advantages and disadvantages.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 09:57 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/everydaymisandry/comments/1du4cyv/feather_music_video/ https://www.reddit.com/r/everydaymisandry/comments/1l7ag97/singer_songwriter_sabrina_carpenter_releases_new/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 08:07 AM
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derailing 101
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 08:02 AM
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Feminists have historically the backbone of the Anti-War movement. Like the white feather movement?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 03:58 PM
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They are both the same tbh, MGTOW wasn't exactly minding their own business either.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/07/25 05:14 AM
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Didn't that Sabrina Carpenter person make a bunch of misandrist remarks?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 06:17 AM
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Bad faith argument bingo there: assuming the worst, strawmaning reducing the struggles of others to anecdotes, derailing, no true scotsman...
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/25 07:09 PM
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it's pretty much like that in every corner of the world
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 03:41 PM
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People who judge interracial relationships judge because the race of people involved in it, which is again not a choice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 07:58 AM
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Of course not, notice have they didn't answer any good responses? this is just another drive by.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 04:09 AM
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I dont think I should be judged for what other feminists say or do Kind of like how you guys say that men shouldnt be judged for their gender Being a feminist is a choice, being a man isn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 04:03 AM
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But if we're judging feminists by the worst of feminists, then we gotta judge men by the worst of men. Men and feminists aren't equivalent groups, one is a group based on immutable characteristics, the other is an ideology, a movement that its members choose to be a part of. And we commit the majority of sexual assault and violent crime, so... Literal racist talking points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:22 AM
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Why does feminism have to fight for men's issues? Why are you even making this post in this sub then? If you think feminisim has no obligation for advocating men why should a male advocacy group be obligated to advocate for women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:13 AM
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She did state that they had no intentions of abolishing nor making the draft gender neutral when she was the PM iirc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/25 12:36 PM
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Not all of them are hostile, compared to feminist group they are usually much more empathetic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 07:32 AM
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Because personal attacks are not allowed as the rule 4 clearly states
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 08:32 PM
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We don't blame women, we believe men face institutional and societal issues that *everyone* is responsible for. > How do we not live in a patriarchal society in the West? Most CEOs and people in power are men. Many of the large religions are patriarchal and centered around men, and contain sexism in their religious texts. This is a one sided perspective, so are vast majority of homeless, incarcerated, workplace deaths, war time deaths (civilian or combatant) victim of police brutality, suicides …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 06:57 PM
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> And did you even read the stuff calling them a bitch? In this thread they go to go to the word "whore" even if proving a point Calling an individual person ''bitch'' not even in a serious way, the gender of the person they are calling ''bitch'' isn't even known. > But I honestly am not surprised you don't try to understand how this looks and how the damaging generalizations are hypocritical and bias against women. It's RETALIATION Because there is no generalization on this sub's part? only gen…
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 06:47 PM
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This has to be one of the most pathetic attemps of accusing this sub of hate, last two comments are taking a jab people who call women "the more empathetic gender" not claiming that they are the less empathetic gender, the others aren't even targetting a spesific group.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 04:30 PM
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Or idk maybe they can be as brutal as men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 03:03 PM
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The only thing that offended me is that anyone thinks men and black people are interchangeable words. No it's more like most people here think men and any x group of immutable characteristics are interchangeable and making negative generalization about any of them should be unacceptable. I think I approached this as best i could as a woman. Your gender has nothing to do with your approach
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 02:46 PM
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but the goal is to demonize men so what would that achive for them?
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 02:41 PM
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Can you show us where the hate is exactly?
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 02:40 PM
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If you are not trying to excuse it what is your motivation of typing walls of texts to make people here sympathize with people who make generalized statements against men as group? "Don't make generalizing statments against groups of immutable characteristics" This shouldn't be a controversial enough idea to argue against it with paragraphs of texts.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 02:34 PM
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When women say "men suck" it isn't a generalization of a gender. How do you know? can you read the minds of every single women who say that? if not lets just stick to the meaning of words saying "men suck" is a generalizing statement It's really referring to the privileged position men have. How is the gender that dies younger, sent to wars, work the most dangerous jobs, make up the was majority of unsheltered homeless people and make up the majority of malnourished privileged as a whole? Women …
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/25 02:30 PM
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Normalizing this will only lead to losing more and more ground...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 03:27 PM
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I've explained it below
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 05:43 PM
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So what? I'm not telling anyone to completely disregard what that guy has to say, am I not allowed to say what I think about a content creator?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 04:29 PM
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He often feels the need to apologize when he talks about how men and boys might be struggling in some areas and ''clarifying'' how women has it worse in most aspects of life. I've found an old comment here explaining it better than I could https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1fxz1of/comment/lr02ixg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 02:38 PM
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I haven't been following him too much recently but from what I remember, he doesn't really acknowledge any systematic issues faced by males, his primary concern (just many other ''male mental health experts'') seems to be preventing males from descending into ideologies that can harm society as whole rather than directly helping them, and again just like other ''experts'' he sounds like he thinks there's something inherently wrong with males and how they (or how they don't) express themselves. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 02:23 PM
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unfortunately he's a bit a menslib-ish but overall better than most alternatives...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 02:10 PM
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Toxic people need victims to manipulate/abuse
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/25 06:07 PM
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even?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 12:06 PM
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Paywall :/ also it's not healthy to jump to conclusions about how women feel based on one article written by one person.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/06/25 11:54 AM
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women can be tradcons too you know
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 04:17 AM
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are you not a feminist? yeah just retreat back to semantics when your true colors are exposed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/25 05:09 PM
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from u/Smart_Criticism_8262 in a 4b sub: > There’s another quote. “Everything in life is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.” > Men are the weaker, less needed sex and they know it. That’s why they chase status, belonging, their own survival at the expense of others. EVERYTHING about men’s life is running from the truth that they are weaker and less needed and they spend their lives proving their worth. This type of mindset never crosses a woman’s mind. > They hate us for never having to f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/25 12:15 PM
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this article belongs in r/everydaymisandry aswell
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 06:48 PM
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I can't say I've never seen any man complaining about it but I've definitely seen more people complaining about ''people complaining about it'' that people actually complaining about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 04:46 AM
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I was being generous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 08:09 PM
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Yet another non gendered problem that only men get blamed for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 05:12 AM
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The power imbalances aren't even comparable in those two examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 02:43 PM
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Yep, and there were people here defending them for being supposedly ''satire'' or ''just a kink'', always assume the worst faith, because it's usually the truth.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/25 03:59 PM
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50 years*, at least.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/25 02:47 PM
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Yes, people who have expressed similar views have been in some government lists before, lists like funding due to being influential feminist figures, look up Clementine Ford if you don't believe.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/25 10:28 AM
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They are not shining examples of gender egalitarian societies, especially Finland, they are just prosperous countries with good (at least relatively) income equality and strong social programs, men have it better than they have in other countries because everyone has it much better than other countries, it has nothing to do with gender. Plus if your reference for Scandinavian countries being gender egalitarian are UN gender equality indexes, those admit that they only consider disadvantages face…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 04:34 AM
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Let's just ignore why there are so few men in college in first place I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/25 04:02 AM
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Please post this in r/everydaymisandry too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 06:38 AM
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Welcome to another episode of OOP would be called an incel if she was a man.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/05/25 03:42 AM
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Also belongs in r/toxicfeminismistoxic
/r/EverydayMisandry19/05/25 04:32 AM
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Ah, using femininity as an insult, horseshoe at it's finest.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/05/25 03:57 PM
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Not a bug, a feature
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/25 04:05 AM
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10 upvotes in just 2 hours seems a bit fishy tbh, anyway removed and banned
/r/EverydayMisandry14/05/25 08:01 PM
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Don't marry then
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 07:36 PM
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Well this surely was better than I expected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 04:58 PM
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None of those things are owed anyway a ''bad dating culture'' can be avoided simply by not participating in it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 04:56 PM
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If they had similar criteria to consider what is misandry, every single word coming out of their mouth would be misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/25 04:08 AM
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> I’ve had plenty of great discussions with perfectly pleasant and empathetic feminists. Most seem to agree that the same structure that expects women to be meek, dainty, and proper is the same one that pressures men into a life of stoicism and solitude. But you know, obviously, there are plenty of traumatized (or, yes, perhaps even just embittered) members that become flat out bigots. Sucks, but we certainly have our fair share of that. And what do they call that ''structure'' and who do they b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/25 05:32 AM
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> I know there is no shortage of antagonistic feminists online, They are not just online, they also make up the most influential figures of feminism and I assure they don't think for a second that we are on the same side with them even if we were to naively think so A hateful movement advocating for the rights of a group (while actively attacking another group) is still a hateful movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/25 07:44 PM
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''Without undermining feminist progress'' shouldn't be a primary concern especially when the movement in question has tendencies of being anti-male
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 07:52 PM
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Typical for that sub, complains about content negatively sterotyping women, but when its about men they agree with it.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/25 03:51 AM
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NotSoErudite won't acknowledge anything negative about feminism, spends most of her time dunking on the "manosphere" than producing male positive content. ShortFatOtaku was a right winger from what I remember but last time I've seen his content was a long time ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 05:32 AM
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Don't know about the others but Contrapoints is not a good example at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 09:51 AM
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Even the most innocent and casual interactions can be uncomfortable for some people, especially with the opposite sex, I'm not judging anyone for that though, a person might have past traumas, difficulty with socializing etc so the height of the bar for considering what harrassment can be subjective, therefore everyone should consider that bar as low as possible to play safe and not make anyone else uncomfortable. Besides it's also telling how no one even considers that a man might have suffered…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:23 AM
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Making a list of those who do not would be a lot easier
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:05 AM
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Edit after finishing the video: At least she promoted some non-tradcon channels like prim reaper and sh0e she might be just new to all this stuff so I won't assume bad faith for now
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 04:12 PM
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Unfortunately looks like another tradcon content, focusing too much on ''how masculinity is good and vital for the civilization'' I mean yeah it can be appreciated that she doesn't feel the same disdain towards men she used to but still sounds like a person in favour of traditional gender roles. Too bad vast majority of self proclaimed ''progressives'' completely leave the stage for saying anything male positive to tradcons and tradcon adjacents making it look like traditionalism is somehow a pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 04:04 PM
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Turns out normal and average people don't have that much common sense and aren't that reasonable
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 07:47 AM
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Why even bother with heterosexual relationships if everyone will asume you are in the wrong in every single disagreement with your SO no matter the circumstances
/r/EverydayMisandry29/04/25 07:46 AM
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im kind of surprised that it didn't received worse critiques, Seriously what did you even expect
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 05:51 AM
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Lol, the most male friendly feminist, literally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 05:49 AM
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I think you've missed the point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 10:54 AM
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A better question is: "Is it up to us to get rid of the gender war?" the only way a defending side can end a war is by giving up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 05:24 AM
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People like Tate don't even claim to represent male advocacy while the outspoken misandrists in question are the influental figures of the feminist movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 06:29 AM
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Surely the vast majority of the perpetrators don't identify themselves as feminists as it is an egalitarian ideology and natural ally of male advocacy /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 04:20 AM
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Red-pill is not a pro-male ideology
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 06:37 AM
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> a lot of the feminist literature I engage with like bell hooks, a very prominent feminist for example, touches on a lot of male grievances that are discussed in this exact subreddit. In a very condescending and victim blaming way. > I don't take their comments personally because I know it doesn't apply to me. What makes you think that it doesn't apply to you? if they are talking about men they are talking about, a group that includes you and me, they don't have to target entire groups of immut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 08:08 PM
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Whatever suits the narrative for demonizing men at that point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 05:05 AM
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This is just how it should be anyway, there is absolutely nothing wrong with maintaining a respectful distance, it's a workplace co-workers don't owe eachother friendships or anything more than basic respect.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/03/25 04:20 AM
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If you just ignore all the scenarios where something might go wrong then yeah there is nothing wrong with this advice here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 02:35 PM
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Better to not get a second date than potentially victimizing someone or/and getting yourself into trouble.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 02:33 PM
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More like "no means no" and "yes might mean no"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 04:02 AM
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My take is basically that ''gray areas'' should be considered ''black areas''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 05:09 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 05:07 PM
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The misandry problem in feminism is not a recent phenomenon though, second wave and before is full of misandry and transphobia.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 09:18 PM
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"anymore" Feminist literature has always been infested with extreme misandry since the 1st wave. You can advocate for women's rights without using the label of a hate movement to identify yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/25 04:56 PM
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Projecting how they treat male victims themselves
/r/EverydayMisandry04/03/25 04:14 PM
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Don't date then
/r/EverydayMisandry04/03/25 01:48 PM
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There is not an implication of a consensus among all women that men are more dangerous than bears in that comment, but that argument has received little to none backlash and the ones who did were shut down and made fun of. Besides there is no need for a reason to not engage in intimate relationships with the opposite sex (or anyone really) as no one owes anyone friendships and relationships.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/25 09:55 AM
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The right is not any less anti-male than the mainstream "left" if not more, they are just better at pretending that they aren't anti-male, hence their recent success.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 05:53 AM
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which makes up like 95% of relevant feminism
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/25 08:42 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/25 07:08 AM
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This is why opposing feminism is necessary, their infestation of academia lead to men's issues being neglected through pseudoscience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/25 02:11 PM
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Dunking on socially struggling men has always been encouraged by the society, men or women, conservative or "progressive" the image of a struggling men (especially socially) evoke a feeling of disgust for vast majority of people. My advice is to not ask for pity from the people who despise you (which happens to be the majority of people who don't know you because to them you don't have a personality, just member of male sex which only has negative connotations), to focus on things you enjoy, kee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/25 02:07 PM
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And what does that statement have to do with my reply
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 07:33 AM
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> Not all men are rapists, is that a scotsman fallacy to you? Men are a demographic, feminism is a movement > Feminists obviously dont want to associate with bigots. What efforts are they making in order to not being associated with those bigots who also use the label feminist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 07:31 AM
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> Feminism will never get the criticism it deserves because society will never not see Women as victims in every situation. Defeatism won't achieve anything
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 07:07 AM
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Do you think the judge that sentences a man to jail for rape he didn't commit is a feminist? Can be, feminists have (successfuly) campaigned for amount of evidence required to convict a man of rape be lowered, campaigning for rape cases to be tried without a jury, aside from the whole whole MeToo and Believeallwomen campaigns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 06:57 AM
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men are a group of immutable characteristic feminism is an ideology, a movement that it's members have a choice to a be part of it or not
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 06:54 AM
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''ignoring'' is always better than potentially making someone uncomfortable
/r/EverydayMisandry08/02/25 08:46 PM
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but I've been told it's only men who uphold the traditional gender roles!
/r/EverydayMisandry08/02/25 06:42 PM
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It's like asking why homophobes dislike queer people. They double-down on making their movement look bad So what? they are not getting a fraction of the criticism they should be getting. I don't understand how think they're going to progress any kind of social change through their toxic behavior. They've been quite successful in their "activism" (well depends on what you think their goals are at least)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/25 04:12 PM
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Ok, there are dozens of not only self identified but also considered as among the most influental figures within the movement that have made countless and incredibly hateful remarks about males, by the same way of thinking how can a self identified feminist be egalitarian when it contradicts with the views of some of the most influental figures' of the movement's history? Not to mention that Leftism is a much broader and more umbrella-like ideology than feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:50 PM
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Well I had an analogy in my mind but doesn't mean much if you don't identify as one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:43 PM
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I appreciate your attempt at being balanced but let's not do bothsiding when one side doing it much more severely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:41 PM
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OP do you consider yourself a feminist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:39 PM
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Those groups you've mentioned already have *endonym* that they use to identify themselves: feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:12 PM
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1- ''Manosphere'' is a made up term for lumping all feminism critical groups as a one to make smearing genuine male advocacy easier. 2- Not really, not intentionally at least 3- no
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/25 06:41 PM
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Apperantly they can't
/r/EverydayMisandry23/01/25 05:36 AM
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thanks, but wait untill you see my takes on "dating issues" lets just say they aren't very popular here lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 06:02 AM
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Tumblrinaction was a horrible TERF infested shithole
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/25 05:59 AM
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I agree, while hatred against any demographic is unacceptable, overly emphasising on "heterophobia" or "racisim against white people" achieves nothing but making it easier for bad faith actors to accuse you of being far right, not to mention they are not comparable to misandry to begin with.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/25 05:58 AM
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Why call something that doesn't benefit men as a whole patriarchy then? traditional gender roles is a perfectly good term to describe that, especially when patriarchy is often used in an oppressor-oppressed dichotomy by feminists, it's impossible to expect people to empathize with the struggles of men while having no problem with that term being used casually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 05:26 AM
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Traditional gender roles, not patriarchy, the notion of patriarchy is supposed to benefit men at the expense of women which traditional gender roles do not, patriarchy does not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 05:23 AM
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Feminists love to claim they are for equality and they help men too and she is a self identified one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 05:19 AM
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username checks out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 05:17 AM
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my comment is not directed at the OP...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 04:06 PM
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I agree with the OP, my comment is supplementary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 12:35 PM
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Define natural and unnatural, and what makes you think it's unnatural now? Discussing relationships problems is pointless and unwinnable waste of time makes it easier for bad faith actors call you incels. There are no solutions either as it boils down to your and the other person's preferences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 09:40 AM
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If you don't like the current dating scene then don't participate in it, having a partner is not a right, no one owes you relationships and neither you owe anyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 05:26 AM
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Now make the gender reversed version and it gets removed lol
/r/EverydayMisandry20/01/25 04:31 AM
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What are the ''short term material results'' that I overemphasize? What is your solution to the ''key issue'' of heterosexual relationships?
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 03:43 PM
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yes that's what I said
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 02:46 PM
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And who are ''my kind''?, taking a 5 second look at my profile will prove whatever what assumption you have about me wrong, this pointless obsession about heterosexual relationships plaguing the male advocacy and only doing damage while achieving absolutely nothing.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 02:29 PM
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Can't speak for women (not like concerns me too much either) but it's good if men are being more afraid of the opposite sex, both for their own good and women who are not interested and potentially will be made uncomfortable.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 02:23 PM
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This is why fighting back against the ''patriarchy'' theory is important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/25 12:30 PM
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How about just not giving unsolicited ''compliments'' to *people* you don't know well enough to be able to tell if they'll be uncomfortable or not.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 12:28 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 05:26 PM
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There aren't, bothsiding just for the sake extending an olive branch especially when the other side has no interest in that olive branch is absolutely pointless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 10:03 AM
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It's harmful to reduce what men want from women to just sex, a lot of men also want friendships, companionships and validation from women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 09:59 AM
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It's not just modern feminism, feminism has been infested with misandry since the very first wave.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 09:56 AM
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this is exactly a feminist thing to do, if you don't like it then stop being identifying as one
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/25 09:38 AM
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if feminism was judged by their most annoying and loudest people in their movement (which also happen to be the ones actually driving the movement) they'd have no support at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:24 PM
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pseudo is a kind of unnecessary word there
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:22 PM
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Please do not vote / comment in the linked subreddits, brigading is against reddit's rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 06:58 PM
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eh, "left" is decentralized and broad enough to reject people who abandoned us and belive that they don't define the left
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/24 08:55 AM
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I've seen enough post from Tin Men to know he doesn't agree with those views, he probably thinks he's exposing them or something by pinning, if only he knew about the average user profile in instagram.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/24 08:52 AM
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I am all for distancing male advocacy from right wing, blackpill, red pill etc for them being misandrists too above all reasons, it doesn't matter how soft you can be towards feminists, they will always demonize you for advocating for men, of course that doesn't mean we should drop to their level, allow ourselves to generalize, be misogynist etc, that and criticizing feminism are separate things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/24 08:50 AM
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feminists are not interested in being on our side
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/24 08:37 AM
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The UK prosecutes hundreds of rape cases every year that involves men it's not feminists' fault that vast majority of their rapists are also male Literally minutes after being told that it's because women can't be charged with rape, how stupid can a person be? It is feminists fault that they oppose making rape definitions gender neutral.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/12/24 05:25 AM
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I don't condone the sentiment of the OP but the commenters are doing exactly the same thing that they complain about when men do it.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/12/24 04:26 PM
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What does that even have to do with it let alone solving the issue?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/24 08:39 AM
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Terrible dating advice innit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/24 08:37 AM
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We don't need to do anything about it, we are not dating advocates we are male advocates, our concern is to fight against discrimination targeting men, not "fixing" heterosexual relationships, not to mention being "more pro-active" often means potential sexual harrassment (afterall, if they are not interested, it's giving unwantend sexual/romantic attention) as a man do not be proactive both for your own safety and not potentially making other people uncomfortable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/24 08:36 AM
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Misandry in feminism is not a recent issue, starting from the very first wave misandry was very prominent in feminism if not even more than it is today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/24 02:54 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/24 03:13 PM
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there are a thousand definitions of it and when the most accepted one is ''a system where men are in power to benefit men at the expense of women'' I'm going to call it out for the bullshit it is
/r/EverydayMisandry15/12/24 08:09 PM
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I don't think being liberated from gender roles and being ''productive'' and ''useful'' members of society has to be mutually exclusive. Besides I think as male advocates our focus should be about men, not the presumed potential effects of their liberation on the society as a whole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 08:41 AM
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You are giving too much credit to the right, they don't really accept men or care about men, they are just good at pretending so. What makes you think it's inevitable for society to collapse if men were to be liberated from their gender roles? What are the "fundememtal differences" between men and women to you and how much of those differences are due to nature and not nurture in your opinion? Do you think men have an inherent need for having a "purpose"? and what is that purpose?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 07:23 AM
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tell me how the so called patriarchy benefits men as whole over women
/r/EverydayMisandry15/12/24 07:01 AM
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It could be a good step to ask yourself, is it all men steamrolling you, is it only men steamrolling you, are you the only ones getting steamrolled and is it healthy to take your frustration out of men as whole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 09:35 AM
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> Near total abolition of gender roles for everyone. Women aren’t expected to cook for men; men aren’t expected to provide for women. Men can be as feminine as they want & women can be as masculine as they want. Every couple decides their dynamic on an individual basis. > Dismantling of the ‘women are wonderful’ stereotype. Women are multifaceted creatures just as capable of good & bad as men. This is a deeply feminist point to me, as my goal is for women to be seen as average humans, and any st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 04:29 AM
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No no no, this is counter productive, we should reject (the enforcement of) gender roles, defining ''masculinity'' is pointless, it's up to the individual that what it means to them and how they want to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 06:52 PM
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Eh, objectifying is bad, and asking for society to judge women for it as harshly as men is bad strategy, I feel like sex positivity for men is a lost cause and we need to adapt.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 11:08 AM
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Feminisim is not inherently left wing, in fact has a rich history of flirting with the far right and fascism, there is nothing wrong or "right wing" about being critical of a movement that is filled with misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 08:57 AM
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It's a terrible idea to express that you like "hot female celebrities" as a straight male
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/24 05:19 AM
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I truly believe the patriarchy exists. We would be fool to deny that society assigns gender roles to both gender and enforces them. Yeah, and we have a term for that, traditional gender roles. Even if somone doesn't intend to, (which in most cases they do) the term patriarchy implies that men as a group are the beneficiaries and even oppressors. You can't expect people to empathize with men's problems when you are not pushing back against terms like patriarchy that portrays them as the privilieg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/24 11:38 AM
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and Korean men recently
/r/EverydayMisandry09/12/24 11:30 AM
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becuse the other one hates them too
/r/EverydayMisandry09/12/24 11:29 AM
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I said I am feminism critical
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/24 08:01 PM
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We are a part of the so called manosphere according to a lot of feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 07:03 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 06:06 PM
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To keep it short I can say that I'm pro equality, feminism and red pill critical, economically left leaning, socially progressive, I reject the existence of a patriarchy, I think manosphere is a made up term to lump up all anti-feminist/feminism critical groups that don't even have much in common. Obviously I can't speak for everyone here but I think most people here align with most of those positions I mentioned above.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 06:03 PM
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Disguise is a kind of unnecessary word there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 12:43 PM
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It isn't exactly pointing to a spesific subset or an ideology, the only ideologies mentioned are there to make a point of that behaviour supposedly exist among men from all over the political spectrum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 04:13 PM
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The claim that men lack solidarity is literally the part I didnt disagreed with. You are accusing men as a whole of objectifying women and viewing them them as conquests.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 04:09 PM
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I agree that men have serious problem with lacking ''gender-conciousness'' that many men failing to realize that might be facing issues based on their sex, and also lacking in group bias (not that having too much of it is a good thing either) However, this post is quite reductive and quite generalizing/sterotyping with comments like this: > They're hellbent on viewing life as a zero-sum game competition, which causes them to view women as conquests and other men as threats to be neutralized. > E…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 03:01 PM
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Legal and institutional issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/24 08:10 PM
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I think this will result in a significant drop in activity in this sub, in my opinion posting examples from social media should be fine as long as personal information is sufficiently redacted or they are not obvious rage bait/satire (then again, remember Poe's law). I feel like this sub was never meant to be a place exclusively for high-quality, thought provoking posts, LWMA is for that.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/11/24 08:34 PM
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I am doing no such thing. I'm saying that men have a responsibility to each other to check each other on moronic incitements to violence before women punish them for it. I am not more responsible than anyone else for policing shitty behaviour of other people just because they happen to have same genitals. If someone tells you they're coming after you, that's an explicit threat. Responding to explicit threats of violence by defending yourself is rational and just, regardless of whether you're a m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/24 03:22 PM
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Exact example of what we've been saying here, you are holding men as a whole responsible for this and justifying hate speech against them, this is misandry, if your and their problem was with the likes of Nick Fuentes they'd be directing their ''two-fold satire'' at him not all men and you wouldn't be here justifying KAM but we all know your and their problem is with all men instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 06:42 AM
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Some useful links: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/ https://menarehuman.com/citations/ https://menarehuman.com/feminism/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 06:33 AM
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Nobody is denying it exists, we are talking about how it's being used to attack men as a whole as if it's a common sentiment among men while more common misandrist sentiments coming from women gets ignored or justified.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 06:12 AM
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Oddly enough, I have not seen any examples of men saying this, online or irl. I have only ever seen people complaining about it. Don't you know? when it's a handful of alt right nutjobs saying such things (male or female) it's "men", when it's a prominent feminist figure or a rando saying something blatantly hateful against males and getting hundred thousands of likes it's just "some irrelevant crazies" or "male trolls pretending to be women"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 10:28 AM
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can you give examples of those commets?
/r/EverydayMisandry16/11/24 09:46 AM
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What is your evidence for the former being supposedly more vocal?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 06:03 AM
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I mean it's a given tbh, but our problem with them should strictly be those aspects not their preferences of avoiding men as no one owes anyone intimate relationships.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/24 06:51 PM
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It's their choice to do whatever they want with their lives, all that's up to us is to report when they are making hateful/discriminatory remarks, which I imagine will happen often.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/24 06:15 PM
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> Yes the misandry is bad but a lot of these women don't realize this is going to backfire on them in the worst way possible. I don't endorse this kind of arguments, even if it might be coming from a place of concern, it can come of as a threat to some people besides from a male advocacy perspective our focus of concern about radicalization of women with misandry should be men, not the (non-predictable) consequences for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:32 PM
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It surely plays a huge part but males also face issues that affect them specifically/very disproportionately
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 07:29 PM
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This is also something that conservatives say very often.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/11/24 06:07 PM
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"Am I being a bigot? yes I am ignoring facts that don't suit my narrative? yes but I don't care"
/r/EverydayMisandry06/11/24 04:33 PM
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I think "Good article on anti-male sentiment on the feminism" would be a more appropriate title, feminism isn't inherently left wing nor left wing is inherently feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:39 PM
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OP please add your own thoughts with a comment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:37 PM
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OP, can you provide some examples?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:34 PM
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OP can you cite the studies you mentioned?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 02:05 PM
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Although some of her latest videos were less serious more entertaintment-ish I'm glad Shoe always keeps her stance on male issues and even nitpicky me can't find much to criticise, I wish more left wing figures were unapologetically anti-misandry like her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/24 06:43 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/24 05:19 PM
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Mentioning only boys for "teaching context" is intentional, just another way to demonize males, by implying that they are solely responsible for all sexual assault.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/10/24 05:32 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/24 07:39 PM
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I agree, cold approach is potentially unwanted attention and harassment however complaining about people not approaching you is also ''incel'' behaviour
/r/EverydayMisandry29/10/24 08:47 PM
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What are they smoking
/r/EverydayMisandry29/10/24 01:53 PM
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But thats also a problem with MGTOW (not necessarily with the ideology itself but with the ''movement'') many self proclaimed MGTOWs were obsessed with relationships and promoting traditionalism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/24 05:43 PM
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what is so bad about being called an MRA anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/24 10:07 PM
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"Why test on animals when we have men?" "Medicine is male centered, most drugs aren't properly tested on women" sigh
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 06:48 PM
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Honestly it goes more like they start negatively talking about men and just "reassure" you that they don't mean you if you express some discomfort at least according to my anecdotal experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 06:48 PM
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Tate doesn't even claim to represent male advocacy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/24 06:04 AM
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If you’re reading anti-man propaganda in feminist literature I ask you: where is the realization of this agenda? Where did the feminists hurt you? Plenty of examples of feminist organizations fighting against gender neutral rape definitions, equal parenting, introducing duluth model which led to many male victims of domestic abuse being treated as perpetrators instead, the white feather campaign etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 10:45 PM
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Why you guys are painting all feminists and women who hate men as same group of people? Because there is a huge overlap between groups and feminist literature itself is full of anti-male rhetoric starting from the first wave, many prominent feminist figures that are still regarded as the heroes of the movement were ragingly anti-male. Can't you refer them as Radical Feminists or TERFs or SWERFs or Fake Feminists or Toxic Feminists or Woman Supremacist? Because in a lot of cases they don't call t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 05:27 PM
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I feel like I will get downvoted, but I hope we can respectfully disagree. Well what do you know, this is the top comment right now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 12:49 PM
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So we're doing biological essentialism now? They always have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/24 01:29 PM
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Why are you calling people toxic just because they are down voting you? is rejecting the notion of patriarchy and viewing feminism mostly as an anti-male ideology misogyny?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 07:10 PM
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But these are my own observations. I'm positive some might have had less positive experiences with some individuals who call themselves intersectional feminists, and the movement does have its flaws. But I argue intersectional feminists are those who truly deserve our allyship. Apart from me having very different experiences with self proclaimed intersectional feminists, I'd like to ask you a question: Do you think they are even interested in our allyship to begin with?
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 02:48 PM
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oh I am stupid lol
/r/EverydayMisandry03/10/24 07:05 AM
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Do they identify as male? if so why are you calling them "she"?
/r/EverydayMisandry03/10/24 06:41 AM
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And I don't identify with misandrist feminists ''Misandrist feminist'' is not a label, feminist is and there is plenty of influental feminists who are extremely misandrist. Take accountability for your group, the "pro men" males with their "pro men" movements. What is my group? who are the ''Pro men males?'' I've never heard about a distinct group calling themselves that. Take accountability for you own support group too, the MRA movement is fundamentally anti-feminist, since it's conception in …
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 09:50 PM
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I don't identify with any of these labels except the MRA, which most self proclaimed MRAs don't identify with those other groups either nor the majority of the members of those other groups identify as MRAs nor even respect MRAs. Meanwhile there are countless examples of not only self proclaimed but also regarded as prominent figures of feminism making extremely hateful remarks against males.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 09:22 PM
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Projection much?
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 09:03 PM
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Yeah you don't negatively generalize groups based on immutable characteristics after having negative experiences with some of them though, it's called hate speech, you definitely don't ''apologize'' by adding a disclaimer claiming that it was out of frustration and you didn't mean all of them.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 05:51 PM
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Being too tolerant or/and ignorant to misandry lead to it being left unchecked for too long.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 03:09 PM
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saying ''boys are disgusting'' is misandry regardless of context no need to excuse that
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 02:28 PM
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Since the first wave feminist literature has been infested with extreme hatred of males.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 04:34 AM
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so now, socially inside of countries like the U.S we got rid of sexism and homophobia and now you have misandry socially, It's not a new phenomenon nor it's spesific to countries like the U.S. misandry always existed everywhere. which shouldn’t exist because misandry will just create sexists, not stop them, This is your primary concern about hatred against men? True feminists (or at least actual egalitarians) don’t put down men to lift women up. You should read the comments of prominent feminist…
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/24 04:33 AM
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This is proposed only for male convicts I asume.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 09:42 PM
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I'm on the camp that masculine or feminine traits don't exist, masculinity and femininity are made up things to enforce gender roles and discussions about those concepts are mostly pointless, certain behaviours don't make you less of a gender you consider yourself as.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 07:35 PM
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Everything they've said accurately represent the feminist ideology, from that perspective that comment has no inconsistencies whatsoever.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/24 07:30 PM
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Be the man misandrists think you are /s
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 04:05 AM
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Thanks, corrected it now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/24 06:51 PM
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Most mods on r/everydaymisandry are mods here aswell myself included so it's already like a sibling subreddit which in my opinion makes it unnecessary to allocate a day for those posts, not to mention this sub is not too big and we don't even get new posts every day to begin with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/24 03:36 PM
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Individual cases don't mean much in this case, presenting studies and statistics would be more useful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/24 04:24 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/24 08:17 AM
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There is no way a post starting with "I hate women" getting hundreds thousans of likes if it doesn't insantly get removed of course.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/09/24 05:51 AM
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Both those statements are incorrect.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/09/24 02:18 PM
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Accused
/r/EverydayMisandry13/09/24 04:16 AM
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What you said was generalizing and wrong but you are a right that nothing would happen if genders were reversed.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/09/24 01:48 PM
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Their comment is removed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 07:54 AM
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Just don't dive into bio essentialism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 02:04 PM
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Again no, it's fine to claim that culture pressures men into that but implying that its biologically hardwired to all or most men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 02:03 PM
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We are not going to censor people for generalizing ideologies as that doesn't target groups of people based on immutable characteristics, even if the statement is factually incorrect, it's not up to mods to remove it, it's up to other members to counter it. Of course we do have a rule for misleading content, but it will be enforced for posts rather than comments, and it's still our less enforced rule, apart from some extreme cases to allow some discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 06:17 AM
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Yeah, not something we'd approve.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 10:44 PM
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That sub has 13 million users and a no misandry rule by the way.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/09/24 10:11 PM
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I'm saying men are the primary oppressors just like white people were the primary oppressors and still are to some extent, because they are the biggest faction who believe in the patriarchal system given their political/cultural leanings and they are the biggest benefactors of it Dynamics between white people and black people are completely uncomparable to dynamics between men and women. You can be an oppressor if you believe in the status quo system of patriarchal rules, norms etc... you are no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 08:32 AM
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You are contradicting with yourself, you are saying men are clear oppressors while also saying feminists believe women can be oppressors too and it's more of a system thing than a gender thing. What is your evidence for men being "way more conservative leaning"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 06:13 AM
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Let's say I do, now what? What the fuck did you prove? You don't think whites were clear oppressors in the 60s? Did they also not face some systemic issues unique to them? White people weren't facing discrimination based on being white, Men are not clear oppressors, they are discriminated against in many aspects of life based on their gender. Let's look at today's world, look at homophobic religious fundamentalist countries where gay people are clearly oppressed by straight people who are the op…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 05:51 AM
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Are you seriously asking why it is not okay to generalize a group based on immutable characteristic? I already told you why it matters, because it's not a choice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 05:40 AM
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Why are generalizations feminists but refuse it to people who do it to men? Because men are not a group that it's members chose to be a part of but feminism is? you comparing an immutable characteristic to an ideological label. They view traditional conservative women as oppressors too, Examples? and they don't view progressive feminist men as oppressors. It's not about being a man or a woman but about your beliefs and the system you reinforce with your beliefs that can be oppressive to women Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 04:43 AM
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Do you have any consideration of designating the UK as 'TERF island'? Most TERF stuff seems to be coming from there, UK TERFs face less repercussions for their transphobia (TERFs anywhere don't face repercussions for misandry, that's a given) than their North American counterparts. "Happen to identify with the label" is the people who constitute that group, though. Not the prominent figures, because that's putting the cart before the horse. What are they doing to pull the cart? at most they are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 12:13 PM
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I prefer to judge a movement by its prominent figures rather than everyday people I meet who happen to identify with the label, because the latter group can identify as whatever they want without anyone stopping them while prominent figures need to highly regarded respected within the movement to become prominent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 10:26 AM
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Really? UK has some of the worst feminists imo, they don't call it TERF island for no reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 06:23 AM
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There has been several posts about it here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 04:07 AM
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according to the commenter above I can't even lmao nice source
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 10:00 PM
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what is the difference
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 09:47 PM
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When you find garbage in a landfill, why the quotation marks though
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 09:36 PM
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Because compliments to physical attributes may indicate that person is romantically/sexually interested in the recipient (which is a big no no in professional life or just any space that isn't dedicated to dating really in my opinion) especially if they are the opposite sex. And a lot of people -especially women- naturally, feel uncomfortable if it's coming from someone they don't have mutual feelings with. Compliments on things like intelligence, personality, achievements etc are much less risk…
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 04:17 PM
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A lot of people feel uncomfortable with 'compliments' on their looks, they see it objectifying, sexualizing. In the end it depends on the person receiving it and how uncomfortable it makes them feel but every compliment on physical appearance should be considered potential sexual harassment should be avoided unless it's between people with mutual trust etc.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 02:24 PM
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my understanding of this sub is that it prefers not to have dating/relationship posts. Would welcome clarification on this point We don't want it to be *the focus* here and this post seemed harmless compared to some other posts that I had to remove.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 01:14 PM
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Still, angering group 2 is much safer because you aren't doing anything wrong to begin with.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 01:10 PM
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Women who are identified as feminists: Men should leave women alone. Stop approaching women in public because it's creepy and makes us feel uncomfortable. Also women who identified as feminists: Why are men being so professional in the work place. Why aren't men approaching women. It's misogynistic that men aren't interacting with women anymore. Group 1 is much larger than group 2. There really isn't much dilemma here, you don't owe anyone compliments but you do owe them not making them uncomfor…
/r/EverydayMisandry03/09/24 07:23 AM
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I agree, so should anyone complimenting on anyone's appearance should be considered inappropriate.
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 08:26 PM
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* Before this sub asks: Yes Virginia, there is thoughtful, effective feminism. I've known plenty of feminists like that; you're just not likely to find them among the shouty randos on social media. Neither among the leading figureheads
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 08:54 AM
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Yes, welcome to the club /s
/r/EverydayMisandry28/08/24 08:17 AM
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To be fair "murder for starters" is not inciting violence if that's what you are talking about, the context is there was a post about men supposedly collectively mistreating women and I made a comment like: "And what wrongdoings did men do as a collective?" and they responded with "murder for starters"
/r/EverydayMisandry27/08/24 03:43 AM
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How did it go from makeup to genital so quickly? still trying to make the connection between doing makeup and being obsessed with female genitals.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/08/24 03:35 AM
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Thanks, that's nice to hear.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/24 11:05 PM
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It's not like mensrights bans them for that.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/24 04:54 PM
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The quote implies that generalizing men as violent excuses the violent behaviour of individual men, except the higher penalties men receive for the same crime not only disproves that but also proves the exact opposite. This just reads like another insidious ''misandry affects women the worst'' quote regardless if it's intended that way or not
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/24 06:30 AM
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They aren't really voting right though the article is misleading, they are checking out due to feeling disillusioned if anything, plus the right not offering any real solutions or adressing male issues doesn't mean they are not using their opponents' mistakes for their grift, so some of those young men might genuinely think the right may help them when in realty they won't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 01:58 PM
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I’m curious- do you see conservative policies as more proactively addressing men’s issues? Absolutely not but I’ve not seen much from the other side that actively addresses men’s, as opposed to also not actively addressing women’s. That's true To me it reads more as “equality by ignoring the needs of both” instead of “equality by actively addressing the needs of both” We are not praising any right wing approach to the issue, however adressing the needs of one demographic while completely ignorin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 01:49 PM
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We absolutely agree the right worse on the issue of misandry, we don't blame left wing politicans for it solely, in fact left wing is supposed to be fighting discrimination even though not all political figures of it represent that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 01:40 PM
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Unconditional voting rights (selective service in USA, conscription in many countries). Protection from gential mutiliation (male circumcision is legal in all countries). Reproductive rights (Male rape victims are obligated to pay child support). Exclusion from many welfare programs, homeless shelters, dv shelters, scholarships. Being much more likely to be subjected to police brutality. Higher prison time for the same crime. Male homosexuality being crime while female homosexuality is not in so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 12:37 PM
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Credit to a friend in discord: They provide no information on how its measured. Deckman said, young white men “look very conservative compared to even older white men” what is the evidence for this? They're probably defining "conservative" as anti feminist. plenty of gen Z women feel like their rights are under threat. Gen Z men just don’t feel the same urgency. I agree with this. Their rights are simply absent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 10:48 AM
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No it doesn't they are not trying to normalize it by saying that, rather, they want to punish all men.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/08/24 08:19 AM
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Nearby muslim countries to fight back Turkey especially Off topic but Turkey won't do a thing, Turkey's opposition to Israel is purely for show, Turkey is still one of biggest trade partners of Israel (including military industry) as a member state of NATO it's impossible that anything more than verbal opposition (just to pander to muslim voter block in the country) to Isarel to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 03:24 AM
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No fuck that seriously, we can't let them get away with this shit every fucking time. As long as you keep voting obediently they won't change a damn thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 03:15 AM
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Nah he backpedaled on circumcision and made stupid remarks like: "we men are idiots without women to guide us"
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 12:55 AM
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That's only a rebuttal to my 3rd point, hardly. The problem with increasing monitorizing and arresting people based on it is; you might end up punishing more "innocents" than catching guilty ones that otherwise might slip through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 12:24 AM
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I think you are missing the point, the post itself isn't defending misogyny, there are 3 good reasons to critize it: The hypocrisy that the bill in question is championed by obvious misandrists like Jess Phillips. The fact that misandry isn't even being considered a problem meanwhile. And it should be discussed whether it's a good idea or not to let the government brand people as terrorists based on vaguely defined offenses like this, I personally think it'd be excessive to apply the same thing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 11:22 PM
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two sides of the same coin
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/24 04:33 PM
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Next time someone tells you to ''get you head out of gender war'' or ''meet them in middle ground'' remember these are the people they want you to forgive and compromise with.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/08/24 06:14 AM
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Except that it almost never works, they make a paragraph of bullshit reasons excuses why it's not the same and it's justified to make bigoted statements against men because they see them as an opressor class.
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 04:33 AM
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Height is (mostly) seen as an attractive feature in men, being attractive doesn't only give an advantage in dating but also in social interections in general and even in professional life. People seen as attractive are more likely to be successful in various fields of life, unfortunately judging a book by it's cover is too prevalent.
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 07:29 AM
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I feel like it's too generous to use another term to define the ''bad apples'' when pretty much all the influental feminisim is anti-male both in theory and in practice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/24 07:40 AM
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sounds like "race realism"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 05:10 AM
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https://youtu.be/x88Z5txBc7w?si=r5JXQtMj9Ht-VFvM
/r/EverydayMisandry21/07/24 09:04 AM
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We think it means "fuck men" because a lot of your fellow feminists do often mean that. There seems to be no consensus on whatever the hell it means even among feminists themselves, some believe there is an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, some just use it as an unnecessarily gendered version or traditional gender roles. It's just used as a motte and bailey, radfems keep demonizing all males then their "moderate" comrades, (not that they are any better, just less honest damage control operatives) …
/r/EverydayMisandry17/07/24 07:55 AM
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not if its directed at men
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 06:39 AM
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genocide, they are suggesting genocide
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/24 11:38 AM
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naive people think it's satire, the experienced know it's not
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/24 11:37 AM
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r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 06:07 PM
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We are the sub mods, it's reddit admins who sent us that reply.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 03:53 PM
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No it just means someone reported it, admins actually replied that there is nothing on that comment violates Reddit's content policy
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 03:28 PM
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A fellow mod reported it and that's the answer he got from reddit: ''Thanks for submitting a report to the Reddit admin team. After investigating we've found that the reported content doesn't violate Reddit's content policy.'' He'll soon a make a post about this.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/24 03:27 PM
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by the same logic, half of American voters voted for Trump.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 02:26 PM
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Men were pushed to accept women with shorter hair, who wear pants and who work outside the home despite being of means. Why wouldn't the acceptable standard of men be able to move? Do you feel you are being forced to be attracted to women you don't find attractive? Do you think those qualities makes a woman unattractive to most men? Let me repeat that: No one is owed friendships, relationships, sex, affection etc. And means you don't owe any of those to people you are not interested aswell. The …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 06:03 AM
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What do you think I am? I am not some feminist coming here from menslib or twox to minimize male issues, I am a mod here and a long time member, check my previous comments if you want. My answer is obviously number 2 but I don't understand how it's relevant to the discussion we are having right now. "Having an easier time dating" is not an institutional privilege, the only thing that grant someone a partner is having someone being interested in them plain and simple, if people don't want you and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/24 04:55 PM
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This is the kind of posts we need here, not some dating nonsense
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/24 01:02 PM
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The problem is while those things can be important, they are not owed, We are owed fair treatment by institutions, having our bodily integrity respected, not being seen as disposable and so on. But no one is owed friendships, relationships, sex, anything more than common decency really. And what do you exactly propose by "encouragement of monogamy"? how is that "encouragement" gonna work? not everyone's into monogamy (I personally am for no-gamy), and I don't think people who want monogamy need …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/24 12:09 AM
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I say let's not just go ahead and completely invalidate a term just because it's often used in a context like that, after all a significant portion of DV does occur bidirectionaly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 05:09 PM
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I've read it, it makes some interesting points however I can't really say that I liked it because the author is blatantly misogynistic. In a nutshell the author (who is also a woman) views women as parasytes living off the work of men while not contributing anything important to humanity even going as far as saying ''most women decide to become a prostitute at the age 12'' she also somehow identifies as a feminists if I am not mistaken and believes women should work more and be self sustaining i…
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 10:04 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 08:01 AM
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Now you know that pretty much every subreddit except a few ones is a misandrist cesspool. Apperantly even a subreddit that is supposed to be for exposing and fighting against negative sterotypes against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 09:34 PM
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I am actually plesantly surprised by the upvote downvote patterns of the comments and the fact that several people did actually reported it.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 08:17 PM
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Okay let's see common real life examples of those conversations: 1: ''I got robbed by a group of women last night!'' ''Really? a group of women? that's hard to believe'' ''Couldn't you defend yourself from a bunch of women?'' 2: ''It can be really isolating and lonely for men, we don't-'' ''Why is it our problem if you can't build close friendships with other men'' ''Women don't owe your friendship'' ''Women have bigger issues'' Number 3 is just a poor analogy, besides it's talked oftenly among …
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/24 03:10 PM
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They both are under-acknowledged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 03:46 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 05:52 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 05:51 PM
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From the post of OP themselves posted in the said sub: Comment: "Men have been practicing separatism since the dawn of humanity, but now that a lot more women want to separate from them suddenly it's a problem" 130 upvotes Reply: "It's not a problem women separate but a perception that women separate while also entering the spaces men used to have reversed. This is a view held by many men. There are quite a lot of organizations that used to be for men that are now co-ed. People did offer lots of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 07:54 AM
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Literally, everyone in the world knows this isn’t true That is a very optimistic statement lol
/r/EverydayMisandry20/06/24 06:30 AM
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About 10% of male homicide victims die by IPH, compared with 55% of female homicide victims" So, 10% compared to 55%. You know males are much more likely to be victims of *any type* of homicide right? so of course the share of IPH is lower...
/r/EverydayMisandry17/06/24 07:35 PM
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How do you define a ''rapist'' in that case, someone who is accused of rape or someone who is actually convicted of rape, and what is your source for that claim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/24 07:29 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 04:31 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 04:28 AM
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Well you probably already know as you stated but what we talk about here in this sub is let's say not very popular with the rest of the reddit and we are under more scrutiny than your average subreddit and on top of that it doesn't hurt that we aim to be a more credible and level headed space.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/06/24 08:13 PM
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Concern about men being excluded from shelters and afforable housing programs is not same as "complaining shitty behaviour from women" I'd say
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/24 12:14 PM
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In theory they reject marriage and other traditional values, but in practice there are so many examples of self proclaimed mgtows lusting over tradwifes, blaming the "current situation" on abandoning of traditional values etc, they believe everything PUA's believe except they just say it's not worth playing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 08:34 AM
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It's not a label that we should endorse, most people who identify with it constantly spread redpill, misogynist, misandrist and trad nonsense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 05:42 AM
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It's not like hating men has real repercussions anyway.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/06/24 09:53 PM
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I've read their website, with ChatGPT translate, it says: So let's recap: the Italian State itself declares that not only are unconstitutional terms like feminism and masculinism legitimate, but it even sponsors one side, prejudicially condemning the male gender as violent and unreliable. And is this supposed to calm the waters? And should we just stand by and watch? The 1523 is a provocation, but it is exactly the opposite of such madness. It declares itself against any gender discrimination, c…
/r/EverydayMisandry10/06/24 11:02 PM
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I've read their website, with ChatGPT translate, it says: So let's recap: the Italian State itself declares that not only are unconstitutional terms like feminism and masculinism legitimate, but it even sponsors one side, prejudicially condemning the male gender as violent and unreliable. And is this supposed to calm the waters? And should we just stand by and watch? The 1523 is a provocation, but it is exactly the opposite of such madness. It declares itself against any gender discrimination, c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 11:01 PM
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Well the ''men control the society'' isn't a popular position here, first it's reductive and minimizes women's power, second, as others have pointed out it's not like men in power have the best interests of other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 10:07 PM
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It's so stupid. Talking about male victims of domestic abuse isn't taking away form the conversation—it's adding to it. They don't want to share their funding.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 01:45 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry07/06/24 04:23 AM
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''Gang related'' doesn't make the majority, robberies etc has the biggest slice in the pie in most countries plus I don't really like the term it's mostly used as a lazy explaination by law enforcement for the cases they can not solve, especially for cases where the victims are men of color. Intimate partner killing ratio of sex is not that close, iirc it's 80:20 for intimate partners, 66:33 for family members.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/06/24 06:27 PM
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Menslib is a feminist approved/controlled space that aims to ''better men'' for others first then for themselves second, but still gets accused of misogyny by feminist spaces time to time.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/06/24 09:38 PM
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:(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 05:42 PM
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Sure bud, we'll believe you over the statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 02:55 PM
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Your post/comment was removed with mod discretion as not fitting for our sub. I know it's sarcasm but please avoid making comments than can be taken out of context.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 02:54 PM
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It's not just that, let me link those two comments that explain it further.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 10:27 AM
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Although it's used almost exclusively against women, there are more men than women that express ''pick-me'' behaviour.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/24 09:41 AM
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Yeah that reminds me of this, a perfect example of how feminists use misleading stats.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 09:38 AM
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From the OP: Now, I'm not saying that women's grievances with the healthcare sector don't matter or that they don't exist, they do. And these grievances deserve to be taken seriously. I'm saying that the contents of the pants of the perpetrator have little to no bearing on the validity of the discrimination, and even if they are true - such as with the male-discriminatory draft being signed into law by male presidents, pointing out such is only done to dismiss people's grievances with society, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 09:34 AM
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She is pretty much excommunicated by every other feminists though.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/05/24 05:12 PM
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Sure, we are in the same school program and you are quite possibly getting the same GPA as I, but does that make us equal? Women are now preferred (2:1) over men with similar qualifications in STEM I did not, for example grow up in a world that discouraged me from focusing on hard science. Nor did I live in a society that told me not to get dirty or said I was bossy for exhibiting leadership skills. In grade school I never had to fear being rejected by my peers because of my interests. Maybe you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/24 05:04 PM
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It's got a very small sample size, take with a grain of salt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 07:01 PM
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They do represent most influental feminists actually, for ordinary people I can't be sure because anyone can call themselves a feminist if they want.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/05/24 09:02 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/q605hd/an_anthropologist_at_harvard_arguing_that_we/ This came to my mind instantly
/r/EverydayMisandry21/05/24 09:02 PM
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I'd say they are very real, and there are a lot of them in academia, government, entertainment and so on.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/05/24 08:33 PM
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To be clear that's not what I meant, I am not calling for everything those people say should be assumed incorrect, a broken clock can be right two times a day, a person like that can make true/common sense arguments but that will not be enough for me to start praising them or seek common ground, a person who believes men don't have any problems is never going to be my ally (they wouldn't even if I wanted to) that mindset is clearly not friendly to the idea of male advocacy or in egalitarianism i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:32 PM
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It's not just ideological purism though just the incompatibility of those views with male advocacy, how is that any different than a rightwinger denying racial discrimination? would we like to hear them out first and give credit "where its due"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 04:28 PM
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Of course, we shouldn't fall for the genetic fallacy by writing off all her ideas, but I'd advise anyone to proceed with caution when viewing the rest of her videos. Why not though? just from what you just said she doesn't only believe in patriarchy theory but also goes as far as saying ''men don't have any problems'' why I as a male advocate would give any benefit of doubt to a person like that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 12:17 PM
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Almost all of influental feminism falls into to that category.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 12:10 PM
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Why the hell would you wanna date with the opposite sex then if you view them that way?
/r/EverydayMisandry20/05/24 06:50 PM
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The amount men who hate their sex so much that they agreeingly participate in openly hateful spaces like this is doomerism material.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/05/24 10:28 AM
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At least you and I can finally agree on something. We agree on many things believe it or not, I just usually reply when I have something disagree with. I don't like the word "pick me" but I suppose there's a basis in the idea that could get extrapolated. Speaking only from personal observation, the concept of "pick me" does not make much sense to me, on average women already receive more attention and approval from men than men do from women. That's not to say there aren't any female pickmes but…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/05/24 02:39 PM
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What are your views on abortion and safe haven laws? The dominant opinion here is we support abortion and financial abortion, we don't believe consent to sex is consent to parenthood and that applies everyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 12:28 PM
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Earning approval from men for advocating for them is probably less likely than earning their hostility, because of empathy gap, male outgroup bias and female in group bias, most men still can't their sex as a group and ignorantly think that they are somehow exempt from all the bad things said about their sex because they believe they are one of the ''few good'' men. I don't want to judge you because I know how exhausting it can be to advocate for men when it's seen as acceptable to demonize them…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/05/24 12:16 PM
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What's with so many feminist being sexual puritans here recently? are they also puritans towards women in feminist spaces or just preaching that for men here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 07:33 AM
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/r/EverydayMisandry17/05/24 07:57 PM
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if you were to say "I'm a men's rights activist" in real life you'll get laught at, That's mostly because a lot of people think men are the privileged gender and face no discrimination at all. Just because a belief is popular doesn't mean it's true. If we were to judge every movement with the same standards as people judge MRM with there would be absolutely no label to identify with, LGBT, Trans activists, BLM etc spaces also make themselves look stupid time to time but we are not quick to disre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 04:05 PM
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A survey asking general populace again it's likely that they mostly fall into the second category I mentioned. I do agree that there are many followers of feminism who are there because they believe it means equality but they are not very well informed about the history of the movement and they are not relevant within the movement to begin with. Also a lot of people who have prejudical views wouldn't admit they do when asked even if done anonymously in studies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:50 PM
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Redpill and traditionalism are not liked here and criticized alongside feminism often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:47 PM
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Feminism has a rich history of being extremely misandrist starting from first wave, if you have had overall positive experinces with the ones you have encountered so far then good for you, however it's anecdotal. No they are not stemming from the same causes, not all of them and not the causes they think, I don't believe it's good faith to call it ''patriarchy'' instead of just traditional gender roles when the so called patriarchy doesn't even benefit majority of men and actually harm them and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:34 PM
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r/mensrights as sub does not own the MRM
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:07 PM
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The difference is being male is not something that someone choses to be while feminist a label chosed voluntarily, collectively ''criticizing'' demographics like sex, race, sexual orientation etc is bigotry while criticizing ideologies like feminism and it's followers is not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:05 PM
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Too many people on this sub and other Left Wing subs seem comfortable with this association ''Red pill'' (or whatever that means right now) is not a popular belief belief here at all unless a person is looking from a very feminist perspective. (which on ocassion can even accuse Menslib of being misogynists) The Red Pill and the MRM are Fundamentally different in intent. I fully agree. And because the world views of these ideas are so fundamentally different by actively policing again and we will…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 02:11 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/24 07:46 PM
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What the hell, at first I thought it was a weird satire gender reversed version of some radfem ideas about rape but I guess everyone is just that crazy in 2024 Twitter.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 04:23 PM
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What is exactly Redpill-ish about that comment?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 04:04 PM
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I don't doubt the comments I will get on this post will wish me ill too. No? What person has the right to complain when people start calling out toxic life-threatening behaviour? Can you be more spesific what exactly you mean by that? but if it is what I think it is, ''calling out toxic behaviour'' is one thing, attributing toxic behaviours to one particular demographic to demonize them is another thing. Why do you hate me so much for just existing and asserting myself when I say I won't let ANY…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 04:02 PM
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This is not a "male space" this is a space for everyone to expose misandry, mods are selected based on their ability not their gender. And that's not tone policing, it's common sense telling you not to generalize and drop to the level of the very people we are against here in first place.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 08:50 AM
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Nah, man. Ive seen enough to know women say far worse shit to each other than they do to men, and are worse to one another (verbally) than men are to each other (verbally). This has nothing to do with feminists, I was arguing how feminists are ''also bad to women'' is not really true. Ive yet to see personal insults aganst myself as a person whose debated multiple feminists. I have, I'm sure a lot of people in this and other similar subs can say that they have aswell. I have also seen countless …
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 05:11 PM
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yeah imo it's like saying ''cold liquid nitrogen'' at this point lol
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 03:42 PM
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I wouldn't say they are bad to women, they are bad to individual women who do not agree with them but again not because they are women because they don't agree with them, they are worse to men who disagree with them so yeah not really bad to women as a group.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 03:38 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/24 09:19 AM
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Yes, but right now commenting as a member voicing my personal opinions without using my mod powers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 02:29 PM
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You guys are showing too much understanding to obvious misandrists, look them denying the existence of misandry by ''it only hurts your feelings'' and making bio essentialist arguments. Stop falling for this shit just because they made a few emotional sentences ever single time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 10:49 AM
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Why are you seriously engaging and even showing understanding to a self admitted bigot?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 10:44 AM
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I don't know how you reached to that statistic but those kind of people are not 99.99% of all women, one of the moderators here is a woman and happens to be the most active poster here and also the OP of this post.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/24 07:23 PM
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No need to generalize women as radical feminists/misandrists, we are better than that.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/24 06:52 PM
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> It is the unpredictability and beyond-instinctness of humans that makes them more dangerous than animals (call this statement X) Unless you have a PhD on animal behaviour I think it's a pretty wild statement to say that humans are more unpredictable than bears. > I remembered a particular post where someone complained that "man up" is unempathetic and not useful, to which I explained: > Suppose we had a world war, and people are told to keep their heads up, little to no one would see an issue …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 06:29 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 04:48 AM
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In almost all wars in history males also made up the majority civilian deaths in addition to being the vast majority of combatant deaths (obviously). The reason people (like Bernie) can reach to the conclusion of ''women and children'' being majority of victims: 1- Adult male civilians are counted as combatants by U.S military to ''reduce'' the civilian casualties they caused. 2- Boys make up the majority of that ''children'' often overwhelming majority that sometimes more than women and girls c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 09:57 AM
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I guess it's easier to just accuse the sub of generalizing women instead of actually presenting evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 09:44 AM
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What does quietism exactly mean? but yeah I personally have been isolating myself more and more recently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 07:14 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/24 02:54 PM
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they are now banned
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 06:02 PM
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How is there even a ''patriarchy'' when most men don't even benefit from it and face discrimination in many areas of society? There is no consensus about it's meaning even among feminists themselves, it can range from an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy or simply an unnecessarily gendered term for defining traditional gender roles, not to mention the amount of motte and bailey tactics used with it due to that very reason. How do you expect people to emphatize with men's issues if you go along with …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 10:17 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 02:48 PM
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saying "most men are incredibly ignorant" and "most men are incredibly ignorant to the hate targeting them" are different things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 02:09 AM
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I could go on but my point is that misandry hurts women in two ways. On a large scale it feeds huge misogynistic movements and pushes hundreds of thousands of recruits into their ranks. It also makes men disinclined to help a group of people who have cast us as the de facto villains in their story. The only reason more men don't turn away is because of manipulation and browbearing, from both women and other men. I mean it doesn't really cause that big of a reaction though, most men are incredibl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 12:36 PM
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People here myself included use the word male (both as an adjective or noun) all the time, grow up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 11:25 AM
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assume that anything you post or submit on the App may be publicly-viewable and accessible, both by Users and non-users of the App. Yeah except it's not only that 'public info' you put on those apps about yourself that are being posted on those AWDTSG groups it's also the potential private/sensitive information people could obtain by meeting you in person or just straight made up 'information' coupled with 'public info' such your name and pictures from dating apps is nothing short of doxxing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 11:23 AM
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And not realizing bashing on men as a whole doesn’t help women. does it really hurt them though? sure what we do here is opposing misandry but framing it as ''it doesn't help women'' is sort of centering things around women again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 11:18 AM
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Most people here, myself included, are not a big fan of the term 'ally' we feel that implies one can't truly be a part of an advocacy group (and only can be allies from outside) unless they from the demographic that they advocate for. If you want to support male advocacy you can call yourself it without needing to use the word ally. Any help and participation in good faith is appreciated, whatever is in your power or in your expertise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/24 02:48 PM
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I am actually fine with making ''giving unwanted attention'' a socially unacceptable act as long as it would apply to both sexes equally
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/24 09:39 PM
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I can't really agree with the author on point 1, although he gave me that vibes at first he recently did talk about actual institutional discrimination against boys (although his solution for that is awful which is redshirting) point 2 has merit, he is more conservative than most people's taste here. not sure if he talked about things mentioned in point 3 or not, to disprove I would have to listen everything he has ever said neither does the author can prove it unless she actually did that. poin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 03:10 PM
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I mean no offense but do you seriously believe that such thing will happen?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 09:21 AM
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there should be an option like: I respect individual choices but oppose forcing roles to anyone
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:14 PM
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posts need to be approved by moderators to be visible (although bugs happen occassionaly) we can discuss the issue via modmail more spesifically rather than in here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 09:31 PM
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Do you think women shouldn’t be protected from violent men? That's a major leap, the protection in question there are laws/practices that are gendered and at at the expense of others i.e: gender definitions of rape, gendered approach to dv, segregating transwomen from cis women and and discriminating against male immigrants/refugees. This sub should just drop the “left wing” already TIL, calling out transphobia of conservatives (and some feminists) is a very Right wing position.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 10:55 PM
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what do you think the reason is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/24 09:13 AM
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to be fair I have not seen any evidence suggesting that she or the organization being feminists so far but I wouldnt be surprised since she is a council member in NYC, still we gotta remember that not all misandrist are feminists
/r/EverydayMisandry19/03/24 07:38 AM
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huh?
/r/EverydayMisandry18/03/24 06:38 PM
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yeah, link
/r/EverydayMisandry18/03/24 06:37 PM
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The fact that you get crucified for making a much more innocent generalization of women (say, not being interested in some hobby or not liking some physical attribute) and again being the bad guy for calling it out when someone generalizes your sex as rapists is incredible
/r/EverydayMisandry17/03/24 10:07 PM
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"not all" logic is acceptable to use for literally any other demographic than men (as it should be), it's just malicious to attack people for not going along with you after you not only have generalized but also collectively blamed their entire demographic, but here is the thing going defensive and saying "not all of us are like that" you should be on offensive and call them out for being the bigot they are.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/03/24 09:54 PM
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The problem is not feminism lacks advocation for males (we are way past the point of expecting that), the problem is it often advocates for discrimination against them, keeps demonizing them and constantly engages in hate speech against them and attempts to silence and deplatform any voice of male advocacy that is not controlled by themselves. Are there some problematic MRA voices? sure but not nearly to the same degree, I don't know of any MRA figure calling for reducing the female population t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 09:05 AM
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I don't get why everyone in this thread is acting like any and all stats on men is nothing but a smear campaign. probably because it often is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 08:18 AM
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notice how nothing is ever done with the intention of actually helping men/boys
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 06:21 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 06:14 AM
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that's against reddit rules
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 06:13 AM
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you can't even talk about women studying in University ... university gender ratios are close to 50:50 in Turkey, No one is anyone is property except for conscripts being the state's Also even the peasant women were in workforce back at the time but they are working at their husbands/fathers farm, sewing silk, who even gets paid for working in their own family's property lmao, I'll give you a secret neither the men who worked there were paid, they worked together and shared the profits together.…
/r/MensRights16/03/24 04:49 PM
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Sounds cool on theory but lets be real it wont work, we are way past the point (more like since the begining) of asking feminists to be fair and balanced, so we need to focus on our group and our group only, the moment you show too much support or empathy outside of your group you lose. Like it or not thats how feminism has been so successful, by being ruthless not by being fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/24 02:10 PM
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I feel there aren't many (if any by a purist definition) breadtubers and other leftist youtubers can't really do any better than "patriarchy hurts men too so support feminism as it's got you covered" they just won't admit that men and boys face institutional discrimination and feminists are responsible for some of those. Even the few ones who do criticize feminists ocassionally minimize it by saying it's just TERFs or "buzzfeed pop feminism" and cling to their feminist labels in the end. Persona…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 05:42 PM
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well she doesnt promote traditional gender roles and in general emphatetic to men, she might not be a left winger but socially she more on the progressive side than conservative
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 05:23 PM
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Prim Reaper
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 02:21 PM
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From my limited exposure to the gen z subreddit, I can say that it has more of a pro female bias than pro male or anti female bias (just like vast majority of subreddits really), but I suppose for TwoX any perspective is less than 99% similar to theirs is inceldom.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/03/24 02:51 PM
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/24 01:07 PM
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consent to sex is not consent to parenthood unless you are a man apperantly (there even court decisions that underage boys who impregranated their rapists have ''responsibilities to pay child support'')
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/24 10:00 AM
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As expected more concern about ''men being radicalized into misogynist'' (as if no woman is ever radicalized into being misandrists by the internet and feminism if not more than men are) than actual empathy for men feeling lonely .
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/24 09:48 AM
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original post in that sub got deleted if that's what you mean
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/24 09:47 AM
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which of them are treating genders equally
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/24 07:43 AM
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Stating that you've came across many examples of the opposite isn't necessarily portraying men in a negative light, believe me we see much worse on a regular basis lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 08:13 PM
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As someone in medical field that article is straight up misrepresenting the facts. It claims that: ''Grey circles represent diseases that affect men and women roughly equally'' And shows suicide grey (which has a 3/1 male to female ratio) It shows cancer (+lung cancer) grey which affects men *slightly* more but the ratio is only so close because there are much more women over the age of 85 than men. (which is the age group that has the highest risk and mortallity of cancer overall) because a lot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 11:36 AM
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If my body was regulated by the government, there would literally be blood in the streets. Full stop. People would be hanging. It would be the swiftest, most decisive end of a political party or political power in the history of the country, if not the world. good thing we are proctected from genital mutiliation right? oh wait
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 10:54 AM
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what makes you automatically expect to be downvoted just because a subreddit supposedly has a male majority?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 10:50 AM
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It's better for all parties involved that people who hate the opposite sex enough to be disgusted by their own heterosexuality removing themselves from the (at least heterosexual) dating pool.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 07:45 AM
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Calling it traditional gender roles should be enough, feminists have poisoned the well enough with their opressor/opressed dichotomy, you can't expect to get empathy for men while going along with the "system was created by them and for them" especially when feminist narrative has so much influence over gender discourse. How is Zionism even comparable? does "patriarchy" does the so called patriarchy promote killing and expelling the "other" (in this case women) for territorial gains? on the oppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/24 02:15 PM
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kind of doesnt make sense to call it ''patriarchy'' when the so called patriarchy doesnt even benefit most when and even harms them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/24 12:53 PM
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DW is a state owned propaganda tool of the German government which considers anti feminism is a crime. Also shaming young men for not being "left-wing" and then praising richer men for being "more empathetic" pretty much summarizes western liberal pseudo leftism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/24 07:56 AM
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At first I really disliked him, still not a big fan of him but now if my observations are not mistaken he seems to be more brave at calling out institutional discrimination against men and boys and even feminism than he used to be. I've always had a kind of wishful thinking theory about him that he was talking badly about MRAs and not calling out instutional discrimination and feminists only because he wanted become mainstream but never really believed it but now that seems to be within the real…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 07:30 AM
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so crimes committed by amab women (or women in general) shouldn't be reported or they should not be considered as women??
/r/EverydayMisandry27/02/24 05:11 PM
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I don't understand what is so bad about the headline, this individual crime is committed by a woman, I can't see any implication of collective blaming meanwhile I have seen multiple examples of media outlets in my country using ''male terrorism'' as a way to describe domestic violence.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/02/24 04:19 PM
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You consistently use feminist as a synonym for women. No I don't? Which is why you think the only thing about Marie Thatcher that matters is her vagina and not her words, actions, life or policy. She is one of the most famous women in political history, and you just diminish her down to a point on women side of boys vs. girls match. I never claimed she is a feminist? and what policy of hers was exactly pro-male? she was a bad politican and she was a woman, blaming her shitty politics on partriar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 12:48 PM
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The moderation and crowd tolerates no nonsense. Feminism will overrun the slightest space provided this space gives them an inch. We don't. It has been seen pretty much everywhere people tolerate the slightest bit of feminist bullying. If people attempt to placate unwarranted insults of "misogyny", then in a heartbeat, feminism will overrun the space. "You disagree with us ? That's because you are a misogynist. And misogyny needs to be banned". And before you know it, a new echo-chamber is creat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 12:23 PM
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> Marie Thatcher and Queen Victoria are examples. Yes blame shitty female rulers on maleness too > There still isn't a equal number of wealthy women to men There still isn't an equal number of homeless women to men > Men aren't being discriminated against for being asked to sign up for selective service. Women are the ones who weren't allowed to sign up for the army in the first place. It's republicans that have failed to add women to selective service, because they believe women are not suited …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 09:46 PM
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> but the idea of ​​​​reducing the sexualization of society, thereby reducing the likelihood of harassment and sexual violence against men, imho, is useful. I don't really disagree with this but not sure why you brought it up? > I'm not sure you can, but could you please unban this OP? They called a bunch of people degenerates (which is a direct violation of rule 7) for not agreeing with them on going back a century for sexual openness
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 09:32 PM
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what the hell do you mean by justified
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 06:52 PM
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nah, they are just the largest one (apperantly they also have a no misandry rule but it's never enforced)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 10:36 AM
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Or just leave it to personal choice, crazy right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 08:43 AM
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> No. Sex, especially outside a long-term relationships, is gross and impure. I recommend to read more topics on this antisex sub with arguments against sexuality. > I think that sex goes against our innocence, that's why I lean sex-negative. You should read my post about childlike innocence: Those your opinions you are free to live your life that way and seek for partners with similar views. > Why to reject this natural purity? Because not everyone enjoys that puritarian lifestyle? > Don't you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 08:32 AM
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And some are provoked by misogynists they encountered earlier, or even their personal traumas. Does being "provoked" or "traumatized" grant someone permission to become bigoted? If so how do you know those same misogynists are not also simply doing that "as a reaction" to the misandry they have experienced?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 11:18 PM
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The folks who get upset at this topic are hopeless anyway, it is just pathetic apologizing this much to people who have a problem with the existence of male advocacy. No feminist even acknowledges let alone apologizes for the misandry in their movement despite the examples being much more common and severe compared to ''misogyny'' of MRAs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 10:47 PM
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> Disclaimer: This post is not meant to fuel any hatred nor sexism. I do not intend to engage in any "derailing". I am gender egalitarian and generally pro-feminist. Having the need of stating that shows how ''tolerant'' your fellow feminist spaces are towards the idea of male sexual assault victims
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 10:20 PM
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UK is worse in that regard
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 09:02 AM
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''if you no longer go for an opportunity to smear a non controlled opposition male advocacy sub, you are no longer a menslib mod''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 08:30 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/rvuGJf2 ​ it's from the 2010 NISVS report
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 08:27 AM
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the claim that feminist misandry hurts women too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 03:53 AM
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sure, if there is any convincing evidence to support that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 03:51 AM
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it's not always easy to establish a balance between moderation and free speech, you wouldnt believe the amount of content we have to remove (not always due to rule 6 btw) already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 03:49 AM
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The OP must be enjoying her commenting here for supporting his case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 04:11 PM
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> Yes actually, and don’t shoot the messenger. Just look at how many women are choosing to stay single now that Western society has removed social pressure on marriage and granted women economic independence. Why do we also see frustration of not having a partner by some women then? are they brainwashed by patriarchy into being attracted to their predators? > And before you start with your BS false equivalency, you are most likely to be murdered or victimized by a male of your same race too, so …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 03:41 PM
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> How have heterosexual relationships ever worked out? (Kind of a rhetorical question, largely coercion and pressure obvs). So overall women don't really want men they are just coerced into relationships with men? > I’m not going to speak for all (opposite sex attracted) women, but you’d have to be living under a rock to not get that a lot of women do fear men, ''A lot'' can mean many things from almost all to a minority who the individual using it feels a little too many, > You just think our f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 01:23 PM
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It's probably not gonna work out great if one party (or both) fears from the gender of their partner to begin with. > Ok, so all heterosexual and bisexual women practice celibacy and abstain from men TIL all heterosexual/bisexual women fear men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 09:14 AM
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> And if men are victimized by domestic violence and comparable/higher rates They are victimized in a comparable rate. I think it's perfectly valid to feel betrayed and doubt your entire marriage after finding out your partner does not trust you at all, sure she is free to take those measures and he is free to end things there (as I personally would) Not to mention she is making escape plans not because he's ever been abusive or anything but either because A: he is simply a man and can not be tr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 09:08 AM
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"Manosphere" doesn't exist, it's smear tactic to lump legitimate male advocacy together with redpillers who dont even consider themselves as male advocates and frankly we want to associate with them as little as possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 09:38 PM
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I believe making a distinct separation between feminism and women is crucial if don't want to end up with collective blaming like feminism does often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 09:03 PM
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We can be sympathetic to women's issues and oppose a hate movement, in fact by doing so we can shatter the idea of feminism holding a monopoly over it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 08:49 PM
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Hello u/Least_Apartment_8854 , can you please add your own thoughts into your post in order to not violate rule 11?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 06:18 PM
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There is a server of progressive male advocacy but it's not an official server of this sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/24 03:28 PM
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u/Critical-Expert-7596 please add your own thoughts into the post in order to not violate rule 11
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 04:24 PM
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This, a lot of people even in male advocacy circles don't seem to realise that this kind of talk further demonizes (especially single) men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 10:32 AM
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your comment made me curious so I checked however I can't say I am very impressed by that, the first post I see is: ''Progressives should stop telling men what not to do instead they should advice them what to do'' but why? why can't we just let men to be themselves? is a man hurting someone? well that's why the laws exists (which are applied much more harshly to them than women) why do men always have be to treated as a monolith?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 01:22 PM
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What men need foremost are not romantic partners (which is ultimately up to individual choices anyway) it is fair treatment by institutions there several dozens of issues to riot about before the ''loneliness''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 01:18 PM
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well assholes exist on every sides shouldnt be that surprising that other people also have the same but reversed experience
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 01:57 PM
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I am talking about the major feminist organizations and figures who have a history of opposing gender neutral laws (like rape definition and child custody) that could benefit men. Not everyday people who happen to be attached to that label
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 01:55 PM
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what are you trying to get at? by calling it "ironic" are you implying that it is hard to believe what you experienced might also be experienced by the "other side"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 08:14 AM
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Having people think it's the only alternative to traditional gender roles (even though only when convenient, it can be pretty pro gender roles when talking about men) is pretty good example of feminst propaganda on its own if you ask me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 08:02 AM
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Yeah but there is no real practical solutions to this "issue" loneliness is a problem sure but no one owes anyone friendships/relationships, it's a matter of personal choice and preference we can't force people into this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 10:48 AM
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 10:44 AM
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I am not willing to die on that hill for now, it's probably the battleground with highest risks and lowest reward we have at the moment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 12:34 AM
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> If you can articulate a calm reasonable and rational argument that reaches out for understanding without relying on insulting the audience people are far more likely to listen without shooting down your perspective. Human beings feeling threatened will close down and react with hostility which achieves nothing but a repeating death spiral. > The majority of people will often consider what you are saying if they don't feel threatend. Yeah like the people who made reasonable points about how thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 02:41 PM
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> If you can't chat up women in public, including socially agreed-upon places such as pubs and clubs, Even pubs and clubs can be considered as ''a place to enjoy drinks music and dancing etc'' so it doesn't warrant green light to approach someone. > what are the exact places where men who are not interested in harassing women can actually find a date? If we want to be 100% consensual, dating apps are the only one I can think of, oh well. > If he asks on Reddit, They will first call him a loser w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 02:34 PM
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Many people might think be okay with it but again many don't, it's better to not take that risk of making someone uncomfortable and even potentially getting yourself branded as a creep. Kind of off topic but I don't understand why would anyone cold approach someone they see for the first time in their life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 02:06 PM
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''stop doing whatever you enjoy and go back to being useful for others''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/24 09:32 PM
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Good points thanks for your input, however I still think that there are other problems too that needs to be adressed aswell such as: Ridiculous imbalance of gender ratio especially in primary education, and I don't think this can be explained only with different career choices but abnormalizing men working with children over the last decades. Unequal treatment by institutions: there are still much more female spesific scholarship programs compared to male spesific ones even though they outnumber…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 11:13 AM
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The practicality of subjects is being explored, and the material developed at the moment focuses far more on a more diverse kind of student approach. I've worked in education and educational politics and governance for years, and the old school way of teaching students that would normally cater to the 'good girl' haven't been "in" for over a decade then why is the gap only widening?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 08:51 AM
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And what might be those solutions I wonder?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 07:13 AM
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"progressives" are dismissive at best and "something something boys fail because of entitlement" at worst I never see any "progressive" apart from places like this even entertain the idea that boys might be discriminated against in education.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 12:55 AM
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dont you know? it's because they are just better /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/24 07:09 PM
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good, those men are being smart
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/24 06:43 PM
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I thought they were exactly like Menslib though?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 12:05 PM
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yeah it looks like the sub has been taken over by derailing redpillers for now mods if you are seeing this please do your job or take in more mods
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:59 PM
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isnt that book and its author extremely anti male though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 04:38 PM
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r/everydaymisandry is a more appropriate place for this kind of posts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 09:44 AM
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Reminder everyone - Do not go to the crossposted sub. Brigading is against Reddit rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 05:17 AM
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Anybody can be an abuser. Yes they can, would you be OK with a group of men sharing sensitive and potentially one sided information about women to "protect their fellow men from abusive women?" I personally wouldnt, the end doesn't justify the means, it's immoral, illegal and breaks the TOS of pretty much every online platform in existence. so it's not a surprise a ladies groups will keep trolling you with such a posts like the one screenshotted above. This is not some simple "trolling", this is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 02:47 PM
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I removed that comment but lets not forget you accuse people here of being closet abusers because they dont like a platform that is guilty of defamation and invasion of privacy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 02:23 PM
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1-) All the data about men in those groups are one sided, there is no way a a huge amount of defamation not going on there. 2-) Not every data there is about them being abusive or not, some include private information so there is also invasion of privacy. 3-) We all know how the reception would be if it was on reverse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 12:43 PM
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People here use male as a noun all the time too, it's not strictly an adjective, men does not include boys so male is a more inclusive term and so is female
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 08:49 AM
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do you have any arguments beside ''you are wrong because you are wrong''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/23 09:49 AM
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> And I quote 'The modern men's rights movement emerged from the men's liberation movement, which appeared in the first half of the 1970s when scholars began to study feminist ideas and politics.[18][19] These scholars acknowledged men's institutionalized power while critically examining the consequences of hegemonic masculinity,[18] believing that both men and women suffered in a patriarchal society.[20] The men's liberation movement was led by psychologists who argued that femininity and mascu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 04:04 PM
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nah you just lack comprehension skills
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/23 08:45 PM
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And? You would like that to change, or ? yes they should be treated equally with men shouldnt be so hard to understand from the way I present it instead jumping to insane conclusions you make up in your head
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/23 08:04 PM
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Or is your argument that women are inferior altogether and should be excluded from military service? No, but I am curious how you managed to reach to that conclusion. My point is even in countries with gender neutral conscription (which are very few) women are often in safer positions compared to men their service term is shorter aswell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/23 05:57 PM
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even in Israel women are rarely in combat positions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/23 08:50 AM
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Good thing someone being right and wrong isn’t dependent on popular opinion I wonder how you would react if someone said this about women The irony in this claim is that most men are only comfortable showing vulnerability with women, and spaces that consist of only men are full of “Tough guys don’t cry” competitions and the belittling of men who show emotional depth No they are not? based on what are you saying this? l wonder what kind of image about male friendships you have in your head but th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 05:35 AM
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Hah. This reminds me of a Tik Tok I saw a while back. https://www.tiktok.com/@emba333/video/7283308787447106862 look at this father, such compassion! Such love! Surely this will not affect his son and the way he raises his own sons in the future. “Marshmallow” indeed. But please blame women Nice anecdotal evidence mate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 05:26 AM
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a conspiracy theory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/23 01:07 PM
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what sub is this from?
/r/EverydayMisandry15/12/23 05:50 AM
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> That's right. Feminism didn't invent any of the issues men face disproportionately or exclusively. They are in place because of traditional, patriarchical society. I completely agree. They did directly cause a lot of discrimination men face today (opposing gender neutral rape definitions and dv approach to name a few) How is it a even ''patriarchal'' society if your average man is so discriminated against. > But this, like all the others, IS A FEMINIST ISSUE. At least it would be if we took th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/23 06:17 PM
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What you are missing in your thinking is men's willingness to harm other men. FGM is also usually done by women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/23 07:24 AM
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1- how can we be sure its a "joke" even if it is it is still an extremely insulting one 2- they dont contain humiliation nor dehumanization themes nearly as much 3- regardless of those books you mention, a reversed version of this commercial couldnt ever be made let alone percepted this positively (rightfully so) 4- this commercial in particular is not the only one, popular media has multiple examples of applying extreme "femdom themes" (which involves humiliation and dehumanizarion, not just su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 02:38 PM
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even people in this sub are doing it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 02:17 PM
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tell me how they are worse than literally saying "dont worry we dont experiment on animals just men"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 02:13 PM
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are they comparable to this? are they in the same level? they are pretty vanilla in comparision
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 02:09 PM
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its director is a self proclaimed feminist why would it be a secretly anti feminist movie i know you want to believe its so stupid it cant be serious but it is and its not the only one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 12:35 PM
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it wouldnt be okay in reverse (rightfully), have some integrity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 12:26 PM
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50 shades isnt even comparable to this its much more vanilla its doesnt nearly contain the humiliation and dehumanization of this or the otherd. I stand by my words there is no equivalent in reverse of this and the others I mentioned in my previous comments
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 10:50 AM
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apperantly her sister herself has no problem with that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 10:43 AM
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has it really gotten this bad? are we really at such a point, in 2023, where men are just THAT hated? Yes, it has been for a while i've comforted myself for months under the impression that all of the misandry on the internet was 'just a minority'. 'People in real life don't think this way' i told myself, but for a celebrity to do such an awful advertisement to the joy of hundreds of people online, shouting 'queen'? The problem is much bigger than a lot of people even here would like to admit. O…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 10:36 AM
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Why is a "fetish" even being displayed in a commercial anyway if its such a good thing to show it in a "positive light" why dont we ever see the reserve in popular media while seeing multiple examples of female singers sitting on half naked men on all fours or even female celebrities posing with leashed men on movie premieres. The amount of effort people put into excuse misandry even in male advocacy spaces never cease to astonish me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 10:12 AM
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not even equating, but implying they are lower than animals
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 08:24 AM
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was Gillette also aiming to sell shit with their famous commercial that got nearly bankrupt in the end? don't be so naive, they are ideologically motivated
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 06:19 AM
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is implying men are below animals by "dont worry we dont test on animals, just men" also "punching up"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 06:05 AM
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as OP, stated in a comment man being shirtless and all is not the problem that whole "there is no animal cruelty we test it on men" part is unacceptable, the aim of "jokes" like is to normalize casual misandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 06:00 AM
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I'll give you secret they are never "ironic anti misandry" Barbie was dead serious so is this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 05:58 AM
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why am I not surprised feminist and conservarive talking points coming from same people now
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 05:43 AM
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But do they matter? do they have any influence on anything? everyone can call themselves feminist and drop it the next day, if you are gonna portray misandrist feminists as minority at least call them the minority in charge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 12:32 PM
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loud minority like major organizations and influental figures?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 12:16 PM
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why can't some of Feminism be anti-Misandry? I have yet to see anything even resembles that Maybe it can exist but it never did at least in a noteworthy level, maybe feminist ideology and foundations itself make it impossible to not be misandrist. Also some Second Wave Feminists (the most based Feminists) have decried the petty definitions of sexual harrassment and female infantilisation we've seen since #metoo went into rampantcy and spoke up for the concerns of younger men. Ah yes the based 2n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 12:11 PM
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1)have you observed that male friendships are of "lower quality" compated to female friendships? No, in my observations men have fewer friends but they are "higher quality" 2)do male friendships offer less emotional suport? The answer can be yes and no depending on the situation. 3)do friendships "replace" a romantic relationship or "alleviate" the desire/need to be in one? I guess but again depends on the individual. 4)are men who have more friends healthier, mentally, physically, or both? Yes.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 05:28 AM
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If you want men to get paternity leave, then you need the support of women; therefore, you must also support maternity leave. Sure but I dont have to endorse a hate movement to do that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 05:12 AM
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feminism is anti equality for men so it must be combated
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 11:22 PM
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Male advocacy groups really like to drop their labels in the slightest inconvenience, I blame the constant smear campaigns by feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 10:33 PM
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I'll be honest I haven seen a lot of her content but based on what you have described I can't say I am impressed She demonstrates a genuine concern for men (particularly with regard to dating) Focusing on dating aspect of gender issues is already oversaturated and frankly it also trivializes actual issues (like systematic and institutional ones you know) by taking away attention from them. while being unafraid of telling men what they may not want to hear. I am really curious what you mean by th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 12:01 PM
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She did recently start calling herself a feminist earlier this year. She said something about 4th wave being based yeah you lost me there
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 11:51 AM
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but it implies that men are naturally providers and they have to provide in order to be happy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 09:16 AM
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I dont watch her content regularly has she said that? when?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 07:50 PM
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and unfortunately that unwillingness is not always pointless but sometimes (if not often) learned distrust
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 03:44 PM
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Yeah she is quite left wing, especially for last few years during 2016 stuff she was more centrist but now she calls herself a socialist, I overall like Shoe but in her last video she said something like: ''men are depressed now becuase they lack purpose as they are now behind education/employment and they dont have families to provide for'' which was really disappointing to embrace such a tradcon view as a person who mostly has left wing and progressive positions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 03:42 PM
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can you elaborate on that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 07:20 AM
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Most men care about female approval much more than they care about the wellbeing of their fellow men, as long as that doesn't change male advocacy won't make any real progress.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 05:52 AM
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Those regular folk you've met are nobodies who have no influence in the movement. They are either naive and uninformed about what their movement actually stands for at best or not fully disclosing their actual views to you at worst
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 05:43 AM
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Because you can be a feminist, at least a true feminist, and support men's rights at the same time. Yeah only if you are uninformed enough about feminist movement to think in its core it stands for equality and people who use that label while hating men are not "true feminists" Meanwhile actual influental figures and groups keep spewing hate against men and advocate for discrimination against them. Apart from the trans sports stuff I fully support the LGBT, but as a gender abolitionist I do have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 05:39 AM
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That is exactly the case feminist misandry is not only "mean articles and tweets by people who claim to feminists" their prominent figures and organizations have always advocated for discrimination against men and used hateful rhetoric against them since the first wave.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 05:13 AM
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you probably replied to the wrong comment lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 02:59 PM
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Poe's law
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 09:00 AM
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UN Men (for women)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 07:13 AM
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Firstly, there is no "UN men" secondly the problem is not "they are talking about women only" the problem is they doing it in a way that is ereasing male victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 06:49 AM
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who's gonna tell them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 04:13 AM
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Saying "just respect boundaries if you dont want to get falsely accused" to men is pretty much same as saying "just avoid dodgy places if you dont want to get assaulted" to women only the latter has a slightly better success rate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/23 03:56 PM
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The devaluation of male lives is patriarchal thinking. For all of recorded history patriarchs have sent young men to their deaths without batting an eye, Then maybe it's not so much of a patriarchy is it? don't fall for feminist doublethink when trying to advocate for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/23 05:09 AM
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Don't get me wrong but why are you so sad about that after listing down all the filth they have done one by one, I get it you feel like you have common ground with them because they are also supposedly leftists but how can you trust the sincerity of people saying and doing so much stuff that directly contraditcs with egalitarian values?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 12:54 PM
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It's not good faith at all, it's basically giving the message of "The only reason we would care about your wellbeing is so it doesn't hurt us in the end"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 04:50 AM
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It's from a channel called typonblue if I remember correctly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 07:27 AM
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Men not being allowed to emotional is not only upheld by other men, there studies about mothers having a stroger bias of "men dont cry" to their sons compared to the fathers. You are purely speaking of anecdotal experience. I am not a big fan of blaming a sex, something you dont choose to be a part of for any problem by the way, I'd rather stick to pointing fingers at society as whole and institutions instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 07:29 AM
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You have noble goals, unfortunately many major feminist figures and organization don't share your views, there are many examples of them fighting against equal custody, gender neutral definition of rape and domestic violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 06:31 AM
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not sure about naturally, but there is a socialization of that way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 06:28 AM
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The patriarchy gives us privileges, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's improving our wellbeing. Then how is it giving men privileges Most of us as men are hurt more by the patriarchy than helped. Then how is it "patriarchy" Most of the problems we face as men are because of the patriarchy and you need feminist analysis in order to liberate men. And most feminist theorists understand that. No thanks, we dont need the "help" of a movement that is responsible for some of the institutional discr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 06:30 AM
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because most people don't know/care about actual male issues and the part of feminism in that, all they care about is relationships so when try to go after feminists thats what happens.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 08:04 PM
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I agree, I am against ''pills'' in general because it trivializes the discussion concerning gender issues, dating and relationships should take a backseat when there are institutional issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 02:56 PM
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these are all factually wrong and not backed by anything whatsoever
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/23 05:07 AM
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Actually we are already considering banning topics related to dating, at least for a while, a megathread for that doesnt sound like a very bad idea either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 05:41 PM
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Tumblr feminists? they are literally pointing out examples of misandry from prominent feminist figures there. How are we as bad as them for exposing them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 05:38 PM
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We do not promote generalizing groups based on innate characterisrics here Feminist groups are directly responsible for blocking attempts of advocating for men (i.e opposing gender neutral definitions of rape and DV, protesting against homeless shelters for men) and countless examples of hate by their prominent and influental figures Obsession on the notion of masculinity has no benefits, men should be free to be themselves without the pressure of traditionalist roles nor shaming of whatever fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 10:47 AM
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To bring up a different perspective, why do people think this is a problem that needs to be addressed and solved? not to mention "addressing it" usually involves using shaming tactics against men who pursue their hobbies instead of spending their time, energy and resources on dating, and potentially hurt their self esteem on the process. How do we know this isn't what what men who opt out of dating want? how do we know this isn't what women want? How do we know a great deal of people aren't that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 05:16 AM
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I dunno, I’m all for burning down the patriarchy until the women I treasure in my life lump me in with all those misogynistic bastards out there who deserve to be taken out (intentionally irony). There is no patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 07:03 AM
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how were they even strictly right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 06:59 AM
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To answer your question shortly: 1- Misandry and feminism aren't inherently left wing, nor they define the left. 2- Therese plenty of misandry and anti-male discriminatory practices coming from conservatives too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 05:47 AM
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u/Acewithasmile, can you please add your own thoughts into the post in order to not violate rule 11?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/23 09:37 AM
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not just that but the term also implies that ''masculinity is mostly toxic but men can be positive through self sacrifice for others''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 07:41 PM
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It's stupid and unfair to attribute the worst actors who are self-declared feminists as representatives of the entire feminist movement Except that they are the ones who actually have influence in the movement, they are the ones opposing equal parenting and gender neutral rape/SA laws, they are the ones making extremely hateful remarks for decades and even writing genocidal books. Not some naive teenagers who think feminism means equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:57 AM
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maybe "fun" without demonization by misleading statistics is possible...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:51 AM
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they are banned
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:50 AM
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I think it's acceptable, I wouldn't like being sexualized nor would would sexualize anyone else, everytime I see sexualization in media it makes me cringe, as if they there to cover for poor writing and acting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:45 AM
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how is women being put down here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:28 AM
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except that organizations like UN women constantly talk about this nonsense
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:12 AM
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they are pretty much just leftist tradcons
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 07:11 AM
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here from CDC's report notice that made to penetrate is counted separately which causes vast majority of male rape victims being excluded in most reports about sexual assault and rape, there are also some stats about how common sexual abuse by female staff is in male prisons and youth reformatories I dont have at hand right now but you might find some searching on this subreddit and other male advoacy subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 04:36 PM
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then what are we hoping to achieve by constantly complaining about dating
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 12:05 PM
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governments and institutions owe us fair treatment but other people do not owe us friendships and relationships
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 11:46 AM
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can you explain me how drawing paralels between misandry and racism against black people can downplay issues faced by women and black people in any way?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 08:13 AM
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I don't think that person hates this subs or anything they are probably just tired of seeing dating being discussed here too much and I feel similarly to some degree too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 08:09 AM
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I actually partially agree with this, problems in dating life shouldnt be our focus because unlike systematic discrimination, there is something men can do if they feel dating is really unfair for them like not doing it. However the rates for being sexual assault victims is similar for men and women and no, vast majority of perpetrators of sexual abuse against men are women, not other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 08:07 AM
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praising obvious misandrists like her for their supposedly good works wont help anyone
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 12:24 PM
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OP, can you please add your own thoughts into the post in order to not violate the rule 11?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 06:14 PM
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why do you still like her even though being aware of all those negatives
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 03:31 PM
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feminists subs are like pretty much all subs that dont explicitly state that they are critical of feminism sadly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 07:54 AM
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For example, when it comes to "men are trash" or "men are bad" type of posts, to be honest, I don't have any problem with this, We can't just be okay with hate speech targetting the demographic we are supposed to be advocating for. And they say any focus on white women is misogyny because they are blaming women for problems men created. I'm not saying they are wrong here. How are they not wrong there?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/23 06:09 AM
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I disagree, I think you are partially right about sexism against women, as it consists mostly trying to protect them without asking them, viewing them hypoagent and sometimes incompetent. However I do think a good part of sexism against men is pure hatred, some anti male rhetorics are very similar to racist arguments about black people like viewing them dangerous and violent by default, calling masculinity toxic, wanting to keep them out of female spaces. This has become visible especially since…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/23 08:24 AM
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yeah, thats what you get for trying so hard to impress people who despise you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 11:58 AM
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r/everydaymisandry is a more appropriate sub for this kind of posts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 09:03 AM
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It's funny OP, you dislike MRAs based on some supposedly "MRM groups" in your country that promote traditionalism and capitalism (I wouldnt even be surprised if those said groups were just conservative anti feminists or redpillers who dont call themselves MRAs) but instantly retreat to "not all feminists are like that" when someone points out one of many instances of feminism actively discriminating against males.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/23 09:56 AM
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u/traveller1976 , can you please add your own thoughts into the post or as a comment to not violate rule 11?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/23 09:45 AM
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As I have said in another post about same topic, They are some of the most "egalitarian" nations on earth according to global reports because those reports do not count situations where men are disadvantaged as "inequality" Finland has male only conscription and run by an all female cabinet if genders were reversed feminists would be comparing it to middle eastern countries. Sweden only abandoned "diversity" quotas for colleges when men started become minority and could use them Scandian countri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 05:08 PM
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the subreddit never represented a positive male advocacy, it was always bad and gotten even worse by the time, I don't have a problem with MGTOW as a philosophy though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/23 08:48 AM
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huh? I mean it's possible that dating is not the primary focus of that sub but it still has too many posts about it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/23 08:46 AM
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I call it Schrödinger's immigrants: ''they are both economical immigrants and war refugees depending on the reason we dont want them in'' ''they are not running from a war they won't die if we dont let them in'' ''those coward men are running from a war screw them they could have stayed and fought it''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 04:35 PM
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I really hope that it doesn't end up being feminist institution that only tells men to cry and not be ''misogynists'' Also to some lurkers here who are more sympathetic to right than left for thinking left supports feminism while right does not, just look at this, a conservative proposing for a ''minister for men'' and while doing that trying so hard not to go against feminist narratives. Left or right, no mainstream politican (or any high profile figure really) in west dares to speak against fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/23 10:09 PM
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OP, can you please add your own thoughts in the post or make comment, it violates rule 11 otherwise
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/23 04:43 AM
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misogyny is worse, which is true what makes you say that? If anything you'd think the more moderate people would reallize that misandry is a real detterent for possible male allies, that it goes against egalitarian principles and drives men into the arms of the redpill movement but no, they keep tolerating and sometimes even encouraging it. Maybe those people are not egalitarian to begin with I actually think it's good that they are being honest and pushing men away from them (except part that c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 01:47 PM
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Your post/comment was removed, because it demonized women. Explicit hateful generalizations such as “All Women Are Like That” are not allowed. Generalizations are more likely to be allowed when they are backed by evidence, or when they allow for diversity within the demographic. It doesn't take a lot of effort to add wording that allows for exceptions, such as "some women" or "many women" as applicable. If you state "most women" then you need to provide evidence when challenged on that statement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/23 06:20 AM
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how would you rate the current state of the sub right now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/23 03:40 PM
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> I like the r/MensRights/ channel.. personally. There are too many rant and low effort posts there, the sub is really big so kinda hard to moderate > Do you find that the left is suitable to dealing with the issues of men and boys given the track record of the left, There is a lot of misandry coming from mainstream left wing figures but same goes for right wing too, at least left helps male issues indirectly sometimes, > currently, given how the far-left seem to be governing the left through ..…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 09:23 PM
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> Yeah, I haven't been seing a ton of that personally, May I ask what do you see instead? > There are other male advocacy channels on Reddit, some far, far better.. Do you have any subreddits to recommend? > Why does male advocacy have to left wing or right wing? I don't get it.. Why does it have to be political in that sense? I doesn't really have to, I myself have to admit I am not big on left wing politics more like politically unaffiliated for me male advocacy comes first but I am socially p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 08:37 PM
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We just want to keep the sub high-quality and credible as much as possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 08:13 PM
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then maybe it is not so hard to not disregard someone based on only one sentence, a sentence that doesnt even demonize anyone spesifically
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 03:45 PM
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What do you mean no it doesn't. People are going to judge you by the things you say and do. They have a split second to understand you and when your entire approach to half of the people in this planet is 'I'm scared of false accusations', it says alot about you. If you think this doesn't communicate anything about you beyond what is said, then I don't think you're aware of how you and others are percieved in wider society. If it's okay to assume things the way we like then I assume people who c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 03:34 PM
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You can read the subreddit's mission statement, saying feminism is synomous with left wing is laughable, general consesus here is economically left wing, socially progressive people who feel feminism is not egalitarian unlike it claims to be and this place exists to fill the void of progressive and non feminist male advocacy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 03:20 PM
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But mine and many others issues when men blame others for their concerns. Like being afraid of false accusations and such. What is wrong with being concerned about false accusations? especially less experienced and introverted men have this anxiety even though they are not creepy. Besides false accusations have little to no repercussions so it is a valid concern. But just saying "ah, false accusations" just communicates so much. It says youvrw very online and very absorbed into cultures that obs…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 03:15 PM
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this is left wing male advocates not menslib or some other feminist sub
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 03:00 PM
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hello u/rohan62442 , although pretty much everyone likes tinmen posts here, just crossposting violates rule 11, so please make sure to add your own thought in the post (or make a comment) to not violate rule 11.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/23 10:36 PM
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Your post was removed, because we do not feel it is sufficiently related to men's issues, specifically to disadvantages or discrimination facing men and boys, or factors that cause and perpetuate those issues. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/23 10:33 PM
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they also do mental gymnastics like calling domestic violence against men as ''violence against women''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/23 08:07 PM
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you can use modmail if you wish to speak to mods privately
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/23 10:28 AM
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They might have meant that women got the right to vote before most men got unconditional right to vote (without being required to be drafted, which is still not the case in a lot of countries) but I am not sure
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 09:41 PM
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It can be argued that men had more opportunities for political power overall but saying women couldn't own property and they were property themselves is just false.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 09:39 PM
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> Couldn't own property, and were even seen as property at the hands of the husband. This is not true for majority of history in most places...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 09:38 PM
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To be honest if anyone's motivation for empathizing with men and boys is so they don't end up with the opposite political political views, I'd rather them not pretending to care and keep showing their true colors. (this not directed at shoe btw, I think she is being genuine)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 06:59 AM
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People with moderate/centrist positions are less likely to participate in these social media discussions Unfortunately it's because they don't really care...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 06:55 AM
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It's not just social media. Afterall they are real people saying those things, they just dont have anonymity in real life although that doesnt stop some of them...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/23 06:47 AM
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hello, u/MissDaphneAlice we think it would be more appropriate post this in r/everydaymisandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/23 07:02 AM
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Or if a certain movement constantly tells men and boys that are oppressors, their sexuality is dangerous and they are making women uncomfortable, men might feel that way...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 06:52 AM
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Your post/comment was removed, because it demonized women. Explicit hateful generalizations such as “All Women Are Like That” are not allowed. Generalizations are more likely to be allowed when they are backed by evidence, or when they allow for diversity within the demographic. It doesn't take a lot of effort to add wording that allows for exceptions, such as "some women" or "many women" as applicable. If you state "most women" then you need to provide evidence when challenged on that statement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 01:11 PM
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"Like "surplus of single men is a threat to society", for instance. Definitely an interesting topic, so long as it's mostly descriptive or focused on the epidemic of male loneliness. I often see it turn into creepy ideas for social policies to "correct the numbers" and that's where things fall apart." My problem with that talking point is it just demonizes single males arguing that they are dangerous. Some male advocates also make that point thinking it would raise awareness for male loneliness …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 09:28 AM
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Try to avoid generalizing language like "it's just what women sterotype" , "male gaze" is a term used by feminists and a lot of male feminists use it too so saying "it's what feminists sterotype" or "it's what some women sterotype" would be better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 09:16 AM
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Hello u/michaelcorleone00 while we approve your post because it doesnt directly violate the rules, arguing that false accusations are something that only women do while straight men never do borderline violates rule #6. We'd like to focus on institutional issues more than the ''behaviours'' of sexes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 07:16 PM
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it encourages people pretend like someone else and gives generalizing and harmful messages like: ''women will always look for the man with best genetics, a man who can protect and provide for her and children'' or ''men are by their nature not monogamous, they want to spread their genes as much as possible'' ''men without high income are worthless'' ''single women over 30s are a red flag'', ''surplus of single men are a threat to society'' etc. Not to mention current most well known figures of r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 05:25 PM
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There is a comment with thousands of upvotes telling him 'I'd fire you'' mind that he states in his post that he doesnt avoid work-related conversations with women (even though it's hard for him) and doesn't want to report this to HR because he doesn't want her to get in trouble. This is a great example of how much empathy some men have while people have zero for them
/r/EverydayMisandry27/07/23 12:07 PM
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Do I know you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 09:57 PM
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Men are much less likely to be believed when making an allegation so there is just no point of doing that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 09:22 PM
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Yes it's true that majority of FGM is done without sanitary conditions and anesthetics, the reason for that is it's banned in pretty much everywhere in the world unlike MGM so it is much less common and usually done outside of hospitals. MGM is also sometimes done outside of hospitals but because it's legal in pretty much everywhere and much more commonly practiced in general, the proportion (but not total amount!) of unsanitary MGM is lower compared to FGM
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/23 02:38 PM
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yeah we need to be more effective at keeping tradcon types of anti-feminists out of our movement but that doesnt mean we should stop opposing feminists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 11:09 PM
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> I believe that, while there is some overlap between misandrists and feminists that the latter don't want to admit, it is true that most feminists don't hate men. Most feminists may claim that they don't hate men but we can see the actions of major feminists organizations and quotes of the most influental feminist figures > I've been lurking in the ask feminists sub and the amount of women going on a rant about how evil assholes men are is pretty small. On the contrary, many women in there have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 10:59 PM
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anti-feminism is absolutely necessary for male advocacy because feminists actively work against gender neutral policies that would benefit men and keep using demonizing language against men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 10:44 PM
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its problem is all of the above, they (at least the influental ones) hate men, they don't care about male issues and they pretend to superficially care sometimes in order to not create too much opposition
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 10:42 PM
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I have also heard arguments like ''women wouldnt benefit from participating those jobs as they are not very high paying nor influental'' at least they were honest...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 03:50 PM
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here is an article from polygon that praises it for ''mocking MRAs'' so that might give you an idea about the intentions of the movie, read comments if you want to see how bad things already are
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 03:44 PM
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I'm amazed that whether why we shouldn't criminalize all sex is actually something that needs debating. I would have imagined that any debate on such a topic would be with an especially radical radfem or maybe a religious extremist, not someone on this sub of all places. I am neither, I think it is bad strategy for male advocates to focus on sex and relationships in this climate And I thought I was pessimistic. I do think male sexuality is unfairly demonized in society today, yes, but I don't co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 09:28 PM
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> Does anyone have any media literacy at all? Barbieland isnt a utopia becuase its ruled by women, its a utopia because its fucking Barbieland. Theres no food, water, genitals, or actual problems. yeah that doesnt really matter once they insert paralells from real life > I can’t believe you watched the same movie. I had a feeling watching the movie that conservatives (and I guess this sub too) would have no idea how to interpret Ken’s arc, that he’s his own person without needing Barbie. The Ken…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 07:22 PM
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they are not portrating ''extereme feminist utopia'' as a bad thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 07:14 PM
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there A LOT of men who have zero friends they meet outside of work/school
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 02:09 PM
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> There is this mental idea that we all know each other when, in fact, the average guy has like 5 mates that he meets every other week outside of work. that is actually a generous number lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 12:51 PM
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"an utopia is where men are second class citizens, which is the exact opposite of the real world" the absolute state of western media
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 06:21 AM
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why are you even here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 06:11 AM
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not necessarily, things being that way in majority of cultures doesnt mean thats how it was biologcally intended or it can not be changed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/23 11:07 PM
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I'd say the former, misandry is not exclusive to western world (nor to feminism) female in group bias, male out group bias and empathy gap exists in pretty much everywhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/23 11:02 PM
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first, feminism is not gender egalitarianism, far from it in fact second, demonizing men doesnt really meet with any negative consequences in west while in Iran I'd suspect it wouldnt strategically make much sense for them to do so
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/23 10:42 PM
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maybe because they need the support of men more than in western countries...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/23 09:48 PM
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> Really? You think the law should be rewritten so that nearly all sex happening today technically meets the definition of rape to keep everyone nervous and scared everytime they have sex, People will just have to learn to respect consent and boundaries one way or another and yeah they should be careful with acts that have severe potential consequences like sex > I don't get it. Why? Whatever the problem, it's such an extreme solution that it sounds like a satire. Times have changed, sex positiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/23 09:18 PM
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yeah that sounds alright as long as its applied to both sexes equally but it is not in Canada nor in anywhere else
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/23 05:57 PM
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It's not rape apology, it also brings up that "playing hard to get" can be confusing for some men but I still think it was poor taste and not a hill you'd want to die on especially in today's climate People like Dr. Farrell are sex positive, so they are against "criminalizing sex too much" because they are concerned about relationships between men and women might get damaged if the bar for considering something sexual assault or harrassment "too low" I however think the exact opposite, not only …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/23 10:20 AM
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> However the policies of campaigning changed and they tell you what to say, word for word. Topics include domestic violence (solely talking about female victims) and "progress being made in Australia" (where the duluth model is used, though it's not talking about that in particular). Welcome to feminism ​ > I know they won't listen if I start with misandry, so my plan is to start with the duluth model and how it is sexist to assume all women are victims, then proceed from there. They won't list…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/23 10:12 AM
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especially the last comment is the proof of why things will never be good
/r/EverydayMisandry24/06/23 09:00 AM
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problem is; first, feminism has huge influence over acedemia and second, in order to dismiss problem faced by men or just blame men themselves for them one does not have to be a feminist, apathy for men is a widespread problem that is not exclusive to feminists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/23 05:35 PM
2

will you leave the platform completely or just moderating the sub?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/23 08:05 AM
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9 in 10 young women agree with misandric movement's views on men poll finds
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:53 PM
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quickly went through her shorts didnt watch most of them to not give clicks, mostly checked titles, most are about relationships, some are ''debunking'' feminism there was only one title that was remotely close to male advocacy and it was criticizing the notion of ''men are trash'' if I takes an MRA to say it is a not good message then we as a society are doomed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/23 12:15 PM
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saying ''egalitarian feminism'' is like saying anarcho stalinism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/23 07:29 PM
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> JustPearlyThings isn't just an anti-Feminist, her brand and most of her content is centered on advocating for men and men's rights. Again, since there is no defining ideology for the MRM, she is technically an MRA. She does not call herself an MRA besides what advocacy has she done for men anyway, > But I don't much care what the "prominent MRAs" say, I'm more concerned with the demographic of the actual movement, what they do and say. What I see when I frequent r/MensRights is a lot of redpil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/23 07:16 PM
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> Pretty sure these aren't mainstream Feminist positions. If you believe they are, that the majority of Feminists support these things, then feel free to provide evidence for that claim. I don't know if majority of them support these things or not haven't talked to all of them, but I can say they *are* mainstream positions as some of the biggest and most influental feminist organizations and figures are pushing them as can be seen here here and here > The MRM doesn't have a defining ideological …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/23 06:25 PM
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people like them probably should get banned though
/r/EverydayMisandry04/06/23 06:32 AM
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If we are judging movements by open internet forums feminists have spaces like twox that has over 10 million members, askfeminists that doesnt even allow comments outside of feminist talking points, countless terf spaces and other shitholes that went private openly advocating for violence, even fds consider themselves feminists. I am yet to see just a single example of a prominent MRA figure making a misogynist remark comparable to what feminists say all the time. Claiming MRAs are just like fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 08:17 AM
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misandry in feminist movement is not exclusive to the modern waves, it's been there since the 1st wave
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 07:06 PM
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First, it's not ethical to disclose sensitive information about the personal life of people in a mass scale, male or female. Second, I believe that we as male advocates shouldnt drop to that level condoning behaviours like that. And lastly it would get banned immediately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 05:10 PM
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It shouldnt even sound like a good idea on paper it's literally violation of privacy at best case and defamation at worst case, period.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 05:06 PM
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But we have some stats on this. Like 90% of divorces are handled outside of court and are accepted by both parties. So for you to be true, you would be saying that men are choosing not to fight for their kids because of society? When we look at odds when cases are brought to court, it favors men currently. Because they dont bother unless the mother is abusive or unfit for other reasons otherwise the courts will just give the custody to the mother unless there is an extreme case. Then we can look…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 04:58 AM
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There is a talking point that fathers rarely apply for custody but when they do they are likely to get it. The reason for that is they dont apply or are not advised to apply unless they are absolutely confident that they can get the custody. And for that the mother usualy has be abusive etc otherwise most cours will award the custody to the mother by default.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 04:40 AM
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to me it is actually fine to focus on one group to some extent but they also advocate for discrimination against men and boys and demonize them with their language
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/23 07:20 AM
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Why is there disdain for taking active agency with love and dating? Why are a lot of people subscribing to wanting relationships to just happen out of thin air? I don't really call myself a leftist but as a kind of sex negative and romance skeptical person here are my answers: 1) It's much safer to not take the initiative as a male in the current climate, it doesnt matter if we like it or not or what we consider "okay" and "not okay" there is always a chance that even the most "innocent" actions…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/23 09:37 PM
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By many metrics, the scandinavian nations are some of the most egaliterian nations on earth, with full sociological and economical opportunities for people of all genders, ethnicities and religions. They are some of the most "egalitarian" nations on earth according to global reports because those reports do not count situations where men are disadvantaged as "inequality" Finland has male only conscription and run by an all female cabinet if genders were reversed feminists would be comparing it t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/23 10:46 AM
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not this guy again...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/23 10:07 AM
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Multiple factors, legal concerns, unwillingness to share living space, unwillingness to further complicate life with additional responsibilites like children, and not being a very romantic/emotional person in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 12:33 AM
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This is a good counterargument against ''feminism is not the problem it's just the newest symptom of misandry which existed pretty much all the time'' yes misandry predates feminism however feminism did amplify it a lot, they've turned sterotypes and biases and against males into a systematic demonization campaign while using their political influence to further the discrimination against them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/23 07:57 AM
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same people then accuse everyone who think men could be disadvantaged in some situations of misogyny
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/23 02:02 PM
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No, he is interested in preserving traditions more than wellbeing of men and boys, he's also been quite transphobic lately, not a figure you'd like to endorse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/23 12:53 PM
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Richard Reeves is both a tradcon and a feminist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/23 09:45 PM
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I kind of agree with this and it's not like having a partner is gonna magically solve all of your problems and make you happy. On contrary it will likely make your life harder, more complicated and more stressful lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/23 01:50 PM
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There is a difference between generalizing a group that they didnt choose to be a part of (i.e males) and a group that is made of mostly likeminded individuals choosing to follow a certain ideology (i.e feminists).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/23 05:39 PM
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thanks for bringing up that men are targeted more by robbers not only because they go out it nights more but also because they view less morally wrong than targetting a woman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/23 06:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ learning about feminism from feminist sources might not let you know about them as they wont be willing to show their worst apples
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/23 08:57 AM
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There are good people who identify as feminists but feminist movement has too many influental and prominent figures who have made extremely misandristic remarks and advocated against male's rights. I can respect individuals but I can't respect a movement that views me privileged and oppressor by default therefore whenever tried to adress male issues almost always does in a way that blames males themselves, a movement that has had several prominent members that advocated for "reducing" the male p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 05:59 PM
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why do they never answer when someone makes a comment like this is it because 99% of feminists are unable to change their mind despite proven how hateful their movement is and they have no arguments to counter it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 07:35 AM
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why would having equal women or more women (if they are not discrimnated against more than men) be necessarily a good thing? especially when considering the male out group bias and female in group bias
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/23 11:52 AM
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Turkey
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 08:32 PM
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No I am not talking about India
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 01:34 PM
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where I live a man can get kicked out of his own house (yes even if the house is in his name alone) just for being accused of domestic violence by his wife, no evidence is required just accusation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 01:08 PM
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just a reminder that twoxchromosomes also has a no misandry rule if you ever feel ignored in life
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/23 08:59 PM
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dont you know? it is because they are much more competent with their fierce negotiation skills
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 07:23 PM
1

As someone who sees relationships mosty a net negative, I dont mind a strict culture that frowns upon approaching the opposite sex in most situation as long as it applies both ways,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 04:46 PM
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(a Conservative government, no less) that women do not get sent to prison for the same crimes that men do. not just by conservatives but also Labour mayor of London Sadiq Khan, every political and administrative entity in UK is just anti male garbage at this point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 04:32 PM
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one could argue that this was the intent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 04:29 PM
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they are probably talking about feminists not women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/23 05:29 PM
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not contradicting to what I'm saying, voting right is not the answer but keep supporting left no matter what isnt either, having leverage and cutting support when needed is what will make them be considerate of the needs of a group, not supporting them in everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 07:42 PM
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It's ok young men will vote left no matter what due to vast majority of them not knowing/caring about misandry coming from them, I don't see any reason for left to change their ways when they just accuse the tiny minority of young males who dont feel comfortable voting for them of being incels and misogynists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 07:31 PM
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acknowledging it is one thing, viewing it as a bad thing is another
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 04:44 AM
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yeah because people IRL arent anonymous lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 06:42 AM
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I'd rather have the planet destroyed than having those people in power, at least everyone will get screwed equally
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 06:40 AM
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til memory is a hereditary thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/23 05:58 AM
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"I am a woman and most women are nothing like that" proceeds to negatively generalize all men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/23 06:07 AM
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men are loved only individualy so most people just have negative views towards men they do not know by default this is why online spaces are especially bad because you are dealing with people who dont really see you as a human being
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 11:40 PM
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but you instantly cry misogyny whenever a man says something slightly negative about women
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/23 11:12 PM
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a good portion of people are like this, most are not just this overt
/r/EverydayMisandry25/03/23 11:04 PM
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tbh I've always thought the whole pill thing is stupid like we should focus more on actual discrimination than relationship dynamics
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 09:40 PM
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being hated by both extremes can be a good thing sometimes but not always, i.e. shit in the pockets analogy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 09:36 PM
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yeah it was so dumb of him to say ''if men got pregnant there would be abortion clinics everywhere'' is that why FGM is banned almost all countries in the world while MGM isn't banned in any country that I know of, but this comment can be intrepreted as defending people like pearly by bad faith actors even if that wasnt the intention
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 05:27 PM
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vaush is a feminist and a misandrist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/23 07:44 PM
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til getting robbed and murdered by a stranger a night is getting into a fight with them
/r/EverydayMisandry23/03/23 03:09 PM
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pros outweight the cons, there are more things in life than dating
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/23 03:03 PM
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Good, less relationships means less marriages, less children, less exploitation of men, less domestic violence and sexual assault and less risk of being falsely accused of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/23 10:57 AM
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it shouldnt seem like a decent idea to anyone, inviting the police in every tiny part of our lives is never a good idea
/r/EverydayMisandry22/03/23 04:59 PM
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it actually falls to 1 percent or something once you control different jobs, hours worked and experince, that 1 percent is probably men being more likely to ask for raises if thats a thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 03:27 PM
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women make 70-80% of the consumer spending so its not like men are earning that "extra money" for themselves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 03:18 PM
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thats why I dont really care about being fair and balanced when criticizing feminists anymore, if they falsely associate us with bigots and terrorists then I can call them a hate movement at least there is much more truth to what I say
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 07:37 AM
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Needless to say that the majority of the comments expressed very strong ridicule and hostility towards this sub for being "extremely right-leaning", and of course misogynistic. Example #8272 of why it's pointless for male advocates to care about being accused of alt-right and misogyny, when even this sub is viewed right wing and misogynist (menslib too on occassion). Just understand that people who smear us are never in good faith and caring about men and boys is enough for them to see us their …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 07:32 AM
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another great example OP you should check her out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 08:31 PM
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thetinmen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 09:03 AM
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men used to live longer than women on average couple of centuries ago despite dying due to unnatural causes in a much higher rate (wars, terrible working conditions etc) modern medicine was successful at dealing with health problems that affect women more (like breast cancer, childbirth complications, some autoimmune diseases etc) it could be because those situations were easier to find a way to deal with compared to ones affecting men more, or because they were more prioritized due to empathy g…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 01:22 PM
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we are alt right according to SPLC
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 03:22 PM
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Its because they don't understand. A large vocal minority of them saying that men are trash, monsters, etc. is pushing boys straight into the maw of Andrew Tate, and good feminists just don't understand how much bad feminists have contributed to it. That vocal "minority" is the most powerful and influental part of feminism, "good" feminists are nobodies who are unaware of how hateful their ideology actualy is while enabling feminists who actually matter (you know the ones who work against gender…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 03:20 PM
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they are not shocked, they are happy that their self fulfilling prophecy is working and they can demonize men and boys more easily
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 03:11 PM
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thanks
/r/EverydayMisandry17/03/23 03:06 PM
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can someone post an archive version, its paywalled for me
/r/EverydayMisandry17/03/23 11:12 AM
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they will only target males
/r/EverydayMisandry17/03/23 11:11 AM
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thanks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/23 12:21 PM
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https://7news.com.au/news/education/outrage-after-brauer-college-in-warrnambool-forces-boys-to-apologise-to-female-students-for-sexism-c-2436295.amp?fbclid=IwAR2z2H11YsB12KVtj9aIqhp9TeSe08uyvI56Rep1-xZmM_XRzx5uyaKhrM&_twitter_impression=true
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 04:23 PM
1

Dailymail is usually trashy but props to them for calling it what it is while other news outlets didnt: rape and sex slavery
/r/MensRights15/03/23 04:23 PM
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she wasnt even fired, she quit herself and her employer even said "the door will always be open for her"
/r/MensRights15/03/23 08:23 AM
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If men dont have any power no one will advocate for them because people dont empathize with them, it seems to me only way to successfuly fight against anti male discrimination and misandry is to have people who understand it in positions of power or convincing people who are already in power. Waiting for getting "discriminated enough" to get people understand is a lost cause because most people will never it's "enough" and you wont have any power to change anything yourself when that happens.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 07:35 AM
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Unfortunately I disagree, feminists have power and influence more than ever. People believe their lies (like wage gap) more than even 5 years ago. Almost all mainstream voices bringing up male issues are feminist controlled and usually talk about trivial stuff to delegitimize the idea of men are discriminated against. Misandry is so normalized that mainstream media can uncritically interview an author publishes a book called "I hate men" or praise an attempted murderer who advocated for reducing…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 07:25 AM
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Men make up only 3% of alimony recipients Men make up 15% of child support recipients It's also funny feminists love talking about how half of child supports payments dont even make it to the recipient to dismiss MRA arguments about family court when men are less likely to actually receive the child support from their ex spouses after being awarded by the court
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 03:02 PM
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thats probably what it is, usually people who talk about "boys not doing well" instead of how much educational system is discriminating against them are feminist tools to normalize male underachievement in education and push the narrative of the problem is with the boys themselves not the educational system
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 12:50 PM
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not having teachers that think discriminating against boys is a way to fight the so called "patriarchy" could be a decent start
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 12:43 PM
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The problem is that it's not an even institution, and everyone knows it. If a marriage breaks down then the income earner [who is male almost always] takes a real hit while the kid nurturer gets a huge benefit. No need to make it sound like it's gender neutral when it's not, apperantly in U.S. women outearn their husbands in 40% marriages but for some reason men pay 97% of alimony and 85% of childsupport, the system is not against breadwinners the system is against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 05:44 AM
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and get banned
/r/MensRights12/03/23 11:53 AM
1

broadly: being hopeless, thinking nothing matters and also not caring that much however its now associated with some incels as they use it to describe their ideology often
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/23 04:10 PM
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Happy International Women's Day to all the female allies around the world who support men, defy feminism, fight gender-based discrimination and stand up for equality!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/23 03:39 PM
2

Men, do not get married, do not be in heterosexual relationships.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 09:54 AM
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on paper maybe but in practice thinking it would apply equally especially in UK would be naive
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/23 07:22 AM
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it's now "guilty even if proven innocent" for a lot of men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/23 07:20 AM
0

first of all I'm sorry to hear about your experiences growing up however I'd like to give some of my thoughts: masculinity is not ignoring what other people think masculinity is not having just casual sex and avoiding committed relationship or having a traditional family and being the provider attributing some traits to a gender is a part of the issue that there are biases against us dont care about what is masculine or what is feminine, gendering traits make no sense, a man can be affectionate …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 07:48 AM
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there is some misogyny there but discrimination against men does exist in family courts, it's one of the main things that draw people to the mensrights
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/23 05:52 AM
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getting downvoted for not denying anti male discrimination exists, the absolute state of male advocacy subs in 2023
/r/EverydayMisandry19/02/23 05:52 PM
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as if I'll believe the words of the very people who make their living by screwing over men but I'll play, > A Massachusetts study examined 2,100 fathers who asked for custody and pushed aggressively to win it. Of those 2,100, 92 percent either received full or joint custody, with mothers receiving full custody only 7 percent of the time. Another study where 8 percent of fathers asked for custody showed that of that 8 percent, 79 percent received either sole or joint custody (in other words, appr…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/02/23 08:17 PM
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who needs feminists when male advocates themselves deny anti male discrimination exists
/r/EverydayMisandry18/02/23 08:08 PM
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oh shoot, guess we should tell all the men who got screwed over by family courts that all they had to do was just fight and there is no discrimination against them whatsoever
/r/EverydayMisandry18/02/23 07:55 PM
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to think a man will get the custody and child support and not the other way around
/r/EverydayMisandry18/02/23 07:35 PM
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how naive
/r/EverydayMisandry18/02/23 04:41 PM
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One side is being "radicalized" by some posing influencers and the other side is being radicalized by the education system, government, insitutions and worldwide organizations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 10:33 PM
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you should also read about the story of Matilda of Tuscany and her "husband" Welf of Bavaria, it's almost as if history wasn't a patriarchy like feminists say
/r/EverydayMisandry13/02/23 05:41 AM
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this isnt really big compared to what i see pretty much everday
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 08:12 AM
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men as a collective didnt mistreat women as a collective, there were various discriminations against both sexes perpetuated by both sexes, the fact that a comment like this is getting upvoted here is unfortunate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/23 03:02 PM
2

working as intended but hey its stupid men who are not intelligent enough to get college degrees am i right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/23 08:14 AM
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they are brainwashing our boys while we are trying too hard to stay moderate, these people cannot be reasoned with they are our enemies and always will be, it doesnt matter if you think we dont have to be enemies because they will always see as their enemies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 08:02 AM
2

by somehow establishing an in group bias among men and boys
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 07:57 AM
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cutting contact with people who take part in it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 07:49 AM
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> Even when women stand up for men and talk about mens issues. They get shit on, stricks on their youtube channel, attacked online by feminists just because they talked about mens issues and disproved what feminist have been pushing for years !! luckily for them, they dont do that very often
/r/EverydayMisandry27/01/23 11:57 AM
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> By a few, not by most men not by most men following traditional masculinity, by a few. So who decides what traditional masculinity is? they can't get away by calling ''traditional masculinity'' is a bad thing then retreating to a position saying: ''actually most men don't fit into this category'' they intentionaly picked the word masculinity there to demonize men and boys and when questioned applied typical motte and bailey tactics any other word describing an innate group (for example feminin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/23 10:11 AM
3

sexism means sexism against women only according to most people
/r/EverydayMisandry23/01/23 06:11 PM
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which comes to my first point, they are lying about being egalitarians in order to keep you as a friend
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 06:08 PM
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> When they truly are supporters of equality, they will take a step back from feminism. and how many times did that happen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 05:24 PM
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the answer is simple: they are lying about not condoning those things
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 05:23 PM
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TinMen, please don't get me wrong and I know you were quoting other people there but in my opinion it would better if you did not involve that kind of language like 6th slide in your content as you are a high profile person in male advocacy and have always been a credible, moderate and a reasonable voice, probably the most effective voice for people who are mildly interested in male advocacy but not very invested in (yet).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 09:01 PM
1

it means being a useful idiot for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/23 09:57 PM
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they are free to join the army and die instead of ''suffering'' long term if thats better
/r/MensRights10/01/23 09:54 PM
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I support the "trans side" because there are many trans people and activists that are not feminists, TERFs on the other hand are all radical feminists as the acronym says.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 12:13 PM
1

why do you even see a professor as your friend let alone a feminist professor
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 10:52 AM
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"conservative propaganda is when someone talks outside of feminist narrative, the more they talk outside of feminist narrative more conservative they are"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 10:12 AM
1

you are free to sympathize and be fair to the people who openly hate you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:55 PM
1

victim blaming, thats it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:48 PM
1

majority of feminists agree that men do not face any structural problems, any problem they face must be the fault of "patriarchy" and themselves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:29 PM
1

don't they though?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:08 PM
3

believe me no one gives a shit about stupid relationships here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:05 PM
21

''failing'' implies it isn't intentional...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:05 PM
6

"but hey its those evil cis men who are transphobes"
/r/EverydayMisandry02/01/23 02:30 PM
3

I use the word male all the time (because it means both men and boys) and no one seems to have a problem with it, why do people get called misogynists for using word female that can be used for similar reasons
/r/EverydayMisandry26/12/22 01:58 PM
3

anyone who thinks message of shows like those is: "it wouldnt be the utopia some people think, life would be really hard" is naive, those shows are for normalizing the twisted fanstasy of having a world without men
/r/EverydayMisandry26/12/22 01:55 PM
9

you don't need her/their permission If you are not in France
/r/MensRights25/12/22 09:34 AM
13

A lot of Iranians don't have a dark skin and trust me most countries are more racist than USA (and I am not an American)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/22 08:55 PM
25

even in protests for women (not my words) men have to be the vast majority of people killed, arrested and executed :(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/22 06:15 PM
8

because 95% of the time they cannot prove it happened
/r/MensRights17/12/22 08:09 PM
3

feminists are not decent people
/r/EverydayMisandry15/12/22 04:16 PM
3

in fact you can't really be both if you really know what feminism and equality stand for
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 06:53 PM
9

well he committed suicide in the end so I leave it to you how to interpret it
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:51 PM
2

except it is implied often by large feminist organizations and their supporters that their interests = women's interests
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 06:50 PM
18

I'd say calling prioritizing women for literally saving their lives misogyny is a reach
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 06:48 PM
11

him not being able to fund it all by himself and yes abuse from other people for him doing it
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:44 PM
7

Earl Silverman received death threats for opening a male spesific DV shelter.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:32 PM
4

except DV shelters for men get shut down because "they discriminate against women" so untill male spesific DV shelters can be opened, we will oppose shelters that discriminate against men
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:26 PM
85

oh men have done this multiple times, they all resulted being shut down due to backlash (for suggesting that men can be victims of DV) or lack of funding
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:22 PM
1

J.K. Rowling is a TERF so she hates men as much as she hates trans people, she is not a person you want to praise a male advocate.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 06:20 PM
3

you are right, it's just so tiring sometimes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/22 02:01 PM
1

I highly doubt that
/r/MensRights07/12/22 05:32 AM
1

Why do I keep hearing "oppression isn't a contest" only when talking about male issues but never when talking about female issues? No one seems to be tone policing them despite their claims being much more ridiculous.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 05:31 AM
1

do you also scream "oppression olympics!!1!" when women are talking about their "disadvantages" or only when men do it
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:43 PM
1

Try suggesting that some life choices may contribute to some areas where women are "disadvantged" then you will understand why you are getting downvoted. (hint: because the double standards, when women are "disadvantaged" it's because men but when men are disadvantaged it's also because men themselves according to a lot of people, typical victim blaming talking point)
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:37 PM
4

The punch would all the beneficial parts of patriarchy: having someone to do your chores and boring domestic labor; having your partner financially dependent on you and unable to leave; etc. The knuckle-break would be all the bad things: higher male suicide rates and depression; less psychiatric help; less social services available, and less chance of being believed when accused of child abuse. the negative things they mentioned literally outweight the "positive things" for men by like 10 times …
/r/MensRights06/12/22 10:27 PM
7

I don't have any sympathy for them anymore, we've been trying to tell them for years now but not only they don't listen but also call us all kinds of names, they seem to be happy with their situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/22 10:19 PM
1

bold to assume they dont want men to kill themselves
/r/MensRights06/12/22 07:27 AM
1

remember, "only yes means yes" is for women only
/r/MensRights29/11/22 04:56 AM
12

don't give them too much credit for not even doing the bare mininum
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/22 05:20 PM
4

former doesnt mean anything once they drop the latter
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/22 02:49 PM
13

they always lose me the moment they mention "women and girls" in IMD
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/22 02:47 PM
12

average mother "who loves her sons"
/r/MensRights23/11/22 02:52 PM
3

the ol reliable word salad when proven wrong
/r/MensRights23/11/22 02:47 PM
1

failed? that attempt looks very successful to me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/22 03:58 PM
1

No, not at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/22 03:56 PM
13

Twitter allowed hate speech against men before Elon Musk bought it aswell
/r/EverydayMisandry16/11/22 03:08 PM
3

they are not hyperboles lol they are common arguments from feminists I encounter often
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 02:43 PM
1

How can you even ''pity'' for men who are being safe from potential false accusations, STIs, unwanted pregnancies and child support payments etc...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 09:30 PM
1

and how many women are in active combat roles and how many of them have died?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 07:06 AM
2

When there is a systematic war on men and boys (which includes me) by major organizations, institutions, corporations and governments, my priority is not being fair and balanced to everyone (assuming my label isn't "fair and balanced to everyone" but I think it is anyway). Unity is needed to win a war not flexibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/22 12:44 PM
2

oh well, wouldnt suprise me though
/r/EverydayMisandry05/11/22 12:33 PM
1

With sub organizations like UN women and WEF in it best possible outcome for the world would be the dissolution of UN
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/22 07:24 AM
12

gay men have the lowest rates of domestic violence though
/r/EverydayMisandry29/10/22 10:22 PM
2

do you think people who tweet #killallmen should go to prison?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:40 PM
3

about the fucking time someone said it, there are thousands of women using that hashtag
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:39 PM
4

idk it used to be more conservative and right wing from what i remember but now examples of hostility towards women are a bit more commom than before
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 07:08 PM
52

genuinely interesting discussions going on there. However, the barrage of transphobic, racist, anti-immigrant, To be honest I see those things a lot less frequently compared to like a few years ago there where "SJW wars" were more relevant, there were people from many different views being pissed at woke ideology as in common. But now a good proportion of conservative/right wing people who didnt really care about male advocacy but just opposing feminism usually for less important reasons have le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 07:06 PM
2

they seem to be moderated by menslib frequents
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 06:47 PM
77

Was Norah Vincent even a male advocate though? doing a little experiment and finding out that "the other side" doesnt have it that better does not make someone a male advocate by default. Did she ever talk about male issues outside of victim blaming "patriarchy" language?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 06:45 PM
2

it's not a male centric community anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 06:40 PM
17

could you elaborate on what you mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 03:15 PM
5

never seen any self identified MRA say "we live in a gynocarcy" they say "we live in a gynocentrist world" and it's true all women are not potential treats to men but female on male abuse in general is pretty much allowed by the legal system
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/22 02:30 PM
3

how is it a problem with MRAs?
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/22 02:26 PM
3

and do you think no men ever gets convicted based on that little evidence? lol
/r/MensRights27/10/22 09:38 AM
11

How ironic, women in r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp were saying that Amber Heard does not represent them because she is an abuser but when I said: ''then why do people mock men for saying not all men?'' I got downvoted.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/22 09:25 AM
6

UK government is an enemy of men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 09:23 AM
4

feminism is the biggest and most powerful anti male movement in the world right now, one can never be too harsh on it
/r/EverydayMisandry26/10/22 06:23 AM
6

can someone archive it? full article is not visible for me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/22 06:21 AM
18

judging from the emojis next to her name, she's a lesbian and probably not going through a break up with a man, she's just a hateful bigot
/r/EverydayMisandry26/10/22 06:12 AM
17

I'm not sure anymore, a lot of men are that stupid
/r/EverydayMisandry25/10/22 04:55 PM
24

misandry is the popular opinion afterall
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/22 08:42 PM
20

I'm starting to think men like him (aka the vast majority of men) deserve everything that gets posted on this subreddit.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/22 05:46 PM
3

one gets removed/banned while other not only does not but also is openly allowed and encouraged
/r/EverydayMisandry22/10/22 03:29 PM
19

Whenever I bring this up I am ridiculed, seen as an idiot and treated like I'm delusional to think that men can be discriminated against somewhere. Because it is systematic, they cant have men questioning it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 05:12 PM
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A lot of men and boys who have been students in last couple of decades can tell that they have been punished for trivial things that get ignored when done by girls, have heard hateful statements towards their gender especially from female teachers. And received lower marks for the same work in pretty much every time when it was solely up to the teacher.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 10:31 AM
1

it's not unconscious, it's intended and systematic
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:32 AM
1

It honestly can be better to be this way, i know it probably sucks that you don't feel confident enough to take necessary steps to "take your relationships to the next stage" but I always say that being seen as oblivious or even dumb is better than being seen as someone who "makes people uncomfortable by misinterpreting their actions" (I know thats not you but once people start rumouring it your social life might get ruined). So my advice would be: leave those steps to women, let them initiate, …
/r/MenSupportMen18/10/22 09:40 PM
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That's my point, people who in fact promote inequality misuse “feminism” to appeal to voters, but they are not feminists. Your example of “democratic republics” solidifies my point, that these are not really democratic republics even though they call themselves “democratic.” Feminism is being similarly misused today, and then people despise feminism because of that. In my analogy, "equality" is "democracy" and feminism is the government using that label to appeal to voters or in their case suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 08:44 PM
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> Feminism is defined by opposition to discrimination based on gender. definitions do not always portray things accurately, many dictatorships call themselves ''democratic republics'', people with racist views usually dont call themselves racist, in fact harmful movements often define their ''official'' positions as something noble and innocent, because they get more support that way. > As for anti-male rhetoric in “feminism,” it depends on what do you take as “feminist” literature. I take the w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 07:55 PM
13

I thought no one owed anyone relationships?
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:59 PM
16

Are we really in a position to claim that they are not real feminists? Personally I don't think I am as I'm not a feminist, they are people who say that they are feminists, they are people who are widely seen as prominent and influental feminists. Besides, misandry in feminism is not limited to modern day, even since the 1st wawe there were extreme and abundant examples of anti male rhetoric in feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:55 PM
1

Of course men in an Asian country are anti equality for women. Duh. I need to understand the difference between a feminist like myself and a blue haired man hater with a bull ring. there seems to be none
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:32 PM
21

Nobody wants conscription, men or women, and it has nothing to do with feminism. It has something to do with feminism as they they don't want women to be conscripted, personally I think no one should be conscripted against their will but it doesn't end there, if feminists are for abolishing conscription, then why the government entirely made up by self proclaimed feminist women in Finland not only haven't abolished their male only mandatory military service but also stated that they have no plan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:30 PM
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> It's called feminism because it's not focused on males? Thats actually fine with me if it stopped there, but of couse they have to spew anti male hate and advocate for anti male discrimination all the time
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:17 PM
19

yeah because the first part is completely irrelevant
/r/EverydayMisandry16/10/22 08:49 PM
4

dont forget the new prime minister of Italy who literally defends Mussolini
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 09:48 AM
2

this sub doesnt allow links to other subs so I'll DM you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 07:06 PM
1

fragile femininity, they think buying ''male'' items will make them less of a woman /s
/r/MensRights15/10/22 10:46 AM
9

their mods literally defend radical feminism and apologize to female rapists for their "bad experiences"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 10:22 AM
11

female subs while everyone is focusing on imaginary ''misogyny'' on male advocacy subs:
/r/EverydayMisandry15/10/22 08:08 AM
10

you dont have a "sexism problem" when everyone else is more sexist than you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 06:38 AM
11

its framing an issue that happens in anywhere else if not more as an issue exclusive to r/mensrights
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 06:25 AM
10

what I'm trying to say is more like "sexism" there is not really higher than the "population average" instead of whataboutism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 05:49 AM
10

they might say thay, wouldnt be true though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/22 10:36 PM
26

for every "misogynist" comment/post in r/mensrights, you can find 2 misandrist comments/posts in any unrelated sub and 10 in any feminist sub
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/22 10:29 PM
31

It's unfortunate but the stigma given to MRA type groups doesn't come out of nowhere, and platforms like reddit don't really help in the matter Yes the negative stigma given to MRA groups do come out of nowhere, by people defaming them unjustly. If you think that sub is bad and hostile towards women, it doesnt contain the fraction of hostility towards men in pretty much any subreddit in this website, not even talking about feminist subs nor subs about gender discussions, even completely unrelate…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/22 10:00 PM
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from my observations is r/MensRights is actually a lot less conservative and right wing than it was before, however it is also more 'radical'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/22 09:37 PM
10

private prison industry Why is this a thing anyway?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/22 09:35 PM
6

did you miss the part where she said "mother nature doing her thing"
/r/EverydayMisandry14/10/22 07:45 AM
24

"scientific" langauge talking about diseases affecting women more: "women are more prone to this disease" vs diseases affecting men more: "men are biologically weaker"
/r/EverydayMisandry13/10/22 10:44 AM
19

they love to talk about male spaces are supposedly toxic, and there is this female space with like 15 million members lmao
/r/EverydayMisandry12/10/22 07:35 AM
2

it is possible, feminism has huge influence over academics afterrall
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 04:04 PM
15

> This is because if feminism was honest, it would have helped men.Instead, at every given opportunity, they have opted to leave men behind > The reason we have to focus on feminism is feminism is what should have helped these issues men face, they certainly claimed they would Honestly if that was all, I wouldn't mind them that much, I'm way past the point of expecting anything positive from them, I just want them to stop demonizing men and advocating for discrimination against hem on a global s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 02:59 PM
2

When the entire narrative about gender issues in the past is from feminist perspective, I'm skeptical of many claims. If we lived in 2100 and if only feminists perspectives of gender issues reached to that day, we would think women had it terrible in 2020s they were all oppressed by the evil men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 02:31 PM
9

while, class is very important it is not the only thing matters, men do get discriminated against based on their gender alone
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 01:44 PM
0

No, they never wanted to equalize, they wanted to "reverse" (if there was anything to reverse anyway)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 01:41 PM
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Now that the shoe is on the other foot, Discrimination against men isn't something that started in last 50 years, misandry has always been around, it's just no one ever cared about it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 01:38 PM
0

then why didnt they stop at 90s when they supposedly achieved "equality" because they never cared about equality in first place
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 01:34 PM
0

Except that is not what I'm saying, those practices by feminists are NEVER in good faith, they don't want to "equalize" they want to push men out of field they don't want them to be in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 04:56 AM
3

I wonder how they even reached that conclusion or was it really "similar records"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:35 PM
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No, it's just our bar for considering something as "progress" is way too low.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 04:51 PM
7

the word "overcorrection" implies there are some "corrective" aspects of those practices when there aren't
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 04:50 PM
8

He's a lot less toxic than the most "moderate" feminist you can find.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 05:12 AM
4

ah yes a removed comment
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:12 PM
22

an absolutely inaccurate, one sided and ridiculous view of history
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:10 PM
1

alright
/r/MensRights04/10/22 01:45 PM
1

why are you asking this question here and not in an incel forum?
/r/MensRights04/10/22 12:38 PM
23

Definitions dont mean anything, any group can claim they are for fairness, and pretty much no group admits that they have bad intentions, what matters is their actions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 06:31 AM
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I mean yeah there are probably many examples of people like that but lets not make assumptions about them based on few examples we encounter Of course they’ll claim their sexuality and ideology are entirely unrelated I kinda agree with this to be honest, as my ideology as a hardcore MRA and my sexuality are completly opposite if you know what I mean lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 05:34 PM
1

it's not naive, it's ill intended, they always know what they are doing very well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 04:01 PM
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as I have said somewhere else: men not opening up about how they feel: toxic masculinity men opening up to other men: toxic bro culture that excludes women men opening up to women: emotional labor
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:47 PM
5

Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's army is female. that percentage seems to go up each time someone brings it up, wasnt it supposedly 15% at the start of the war? did they get even more women into the army (which I doubt) after almost one third of women have left the country? or only men died in army (which wouldnt surprise me because they are actually there to fight not for to show) so the percentage of women went up?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:20 PM
5

feminists are not needed anywhere they are hateful supremacists its like saying that KKK is needed in a country where white people are oppressed
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:12 PM
11

so where is the support for men being forced to kill and die against their will?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:11 PM
9

This is where I lose touch with the MRA movement. You won't be missed with your bio essentialist, tradcon and anti egalitarian views
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:08 PM
11

when have women ever fight for men (for men as a collective not for a single man) and their rights anywhere in the world?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:06 PM
9

we as humans should stand together and support each other, we are harder to defeat if we are not divided by simple things such as gender, nationality, religion etc That will only work if they view you as human too
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:02 PM
12

both men and women are being equally killed fighting for basic human rights, No they are not, overwhelming majority of people died in protests are men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:57 PM
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We do not give asylum to Russian men who flee their country. They should oppose the war. What can they do more than dodging the draft and leaving the country to oppose the war??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 11:13 AM
1

I don't know if that's a good counsellor or not, but I know thats a typicial counsellor, I'm not sure if such thing as "a good counsellor" exists by your definition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:10 AM
10

Apparently a marriage counselor had focused on that idea for fixing their marriage, which basically amounts to 'do whatever the woman wants, and hope that when she's fulfilled enough that she will then address the man's problems'. This is why counselors and therapists in general are a joke for men, you always wrong in their eyes, they are not interested to help you, they only are interested to help women around you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 05:54 AM
43

ironically Trump fought against removal of due process in unversities most
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 01:12 PM
9

not "or else" she'll still say that in that case aswell lol
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/22 10:24 PM
7

what sub is this that they literally have misandrist flair lmao
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/22 10:23 PM
29

calling theguardian toilet paper would be an insult to toilet paper
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 10:09 PM
6

it's worse in real life for me, at least in internet there people like in this sub, in real life its only people from the opposite side
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 08:57 AM
1

considering even Hillary Clinton got the popular vote first and only time she ran for president, AOC has a pretty good chance even with (or due to?) making stupid statements like this
/r/MensRights08/09/22 08:59 AM
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> but are willing to overlook the other half of that acronym (the radical feminist part) Because there is nothing wrong with radical feminism according to a lot of people, remember when the current president of South Korea was elected? he said that he opposed only radical feminism which was enough for him to get called a misogynist (not that I'm a big fan of him either but thats another topic) feminism is the establishment, even the most right wing politicans don't dare to say anything negative …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 08:47 AM
4

I wouldn't care for Jordan Peterson that much, he isn't exactly a good ally for MRAs if an ally at all
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:05 PM
6

in that case I would recommend you to go with science way, show him studies proves his points are wrong
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 01:42 PM
2

why did you write the same thing twice?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 01:39 PM
11

you must be really old then
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 01:30 AM
12

> If someone spent that much time curating things they think make "feminism" look bad then that says something about their issues and nothing else rofl, ''feminists saying/doing all these terrible things but you are the one who has bad intentions for spending time to expose it'' > My take on it is that #killallmen is black comedy. They aren't actually going to kill any men and the people pretending to be put out about it know that. way to downplay/excuse it > Whereas, say, this guy really did as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 12:56 AM
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> There are many different, incompatible feminisms in the world. Feminists are people and some people are idiots, or trolling. > If you don't like or respect feminists who use those hashtags, fair enough. You do not have to. But you are engaging in the fallacy of composition if you decide that those hashtags and the people associated with them are feminism. yes they are feminism, prominent/influental figures of feminism through its history weren't/aren't much different than them > It's hard to s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 12:13 AM
8

by definition North Korea is a democratic republic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 12:02 AM
1

> MGTOW - NOT because women are evil, but because women and men don't match so well in our society anymore, and men need to find other satisfactions than what they hope they'll find with women. this except for the MGTOW label that I find too tainted to identify with it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/22 08:13 PM
1

thanks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/22 10:02 PM
1

do you have a link?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/22 06:53 PM
1

Even Ellen Pence the one who created the Duluth model debunked herself. Can you explain more on that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/22 06:40 PM
12

only if they are male
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/22 09:24 AM
15

"why do people think we hate men?" the next day "so I hate men"
/r/EverydayMisandry17/08/22 07:36 AM
2

I don't care about how much it contributes to debate or anything, fighting to end discrimination a group face shouldn't even be a topic of debate anyway, you are literally implying those hateful bigots are better than MRAs because they supposedly came up with "sound theory" edit: jesus christ after seeing your latest post I've realized I'm talking a brick wall, you are literally the same as people I mentioned before
/r/MensRights15/08/22 08:08 AM
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ah yes the great feminists thinkers like: "Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." — Andrea Dworkin "The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." — Sally Miller Gearhart "we are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men, and if we were free and developed, healthy in body and mind, as we should be under natural conditions, our motherhood would be our glory. That fun…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 12:46 AM
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MRAs: ''we want to fight discrimation men are facing'' You: ''lol they don't even have theorists what losers I can't take them seriously'' mind you that the movement is a couple of decades old at most if you really want a theorist you can check out Ernst Belfort Bax, a socialist who brought up male issues over a hundred years ago and probably the first person to ever think/care about issues men as group face
/r/MensRights15/08/22 12:25 AM
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okay? most of people there are not traditionalists nor they care about traditional roles for their gender anwyay?
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/22 12:13 AM
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who's role models? not a single one of these people OP mentioned call themselves MRAs, why would MRAs be responsible for them and not taken seriously because of them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/22 12:11 AM
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so you keep talking about how men should fulfill their traditional duties but support a movement that says they want to eliminate traditional roles for women? are you a traditionalist or just support traditionalism as long as it benefits women and discriminates men?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:56 PM
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Jordan Peterson never even said he was an MRA you are the one talking nonsense about a movement without knowing anything about it
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:50 PM
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source? I live in a country with compulsory military service for men
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:41 PM
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wow not a single comment saying anything negative about it, exactly what I expected!
/r/EverydayMisandry13/08/22 01:16 PM
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> the rise of single men is that a bad thing?
/r/EverydayMisandry12/08/22 11:51 AM
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extremely negative connotations the term unfortunately has, largely due to being associated by those on the Right. Those negative connotations are thanks to feminists and the mainstream media that supports them constantly smearing it poorly constructed or just outright baseless accusations. The reason a good proportion of influental MRA figures being right-wing is, leftists constantly deplatforming them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 02:21 PM
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yeah, that is a valid point aswell
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 02:12 PM
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I feel like their support among people is growing aswell, sure there are more people than before becoming critical of feminism now but even more people are becoming feminists, people on the "middle" are choosing a side and most of them are going for the latter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 10:05 AM
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Are they really facing any problems now though? they have more support and influence than ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 01:06 AM
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if I had to choose between only TERFs or trans inclusive libfems, I'd choose the latter, that being said, the best outcome would be both sides weakening eachother.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 10:22 PM
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just my observation, but there seems to very influental figures in team TERF, also conservatives and anti-sjw types are playing the useful idiots role for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 09:28 PM
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God I wish, but I feel like TERFs are winning the "feminist civil war"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 08:49 PM
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1- I don't know the exact meaning of those words 2- Something that does not exist can't backfire, it's a talking point used for victim blaming men for their own gendered issues 3- I don't know what that is 4- yes? why wouldn't it be? 5- absolutely 6- yes 7- how can we talk about equal rights while putting all the burden for draft on one gender? it's not derailing 8- "highest risk of injury" injury can mean many things, nursing is not as dangerous nor deadly as fishing, construction working etc. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 05:08 PM
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I'm not the one who said that anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:38 PM
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but we never hear people making the same point for war
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:25 PM
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result of coed = teachers being biased towards girls, so if they are segregated maybe there will be less bias
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 09:59 PM
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boys only schools, more male teachers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 07:42 PM
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but does it remove misandrist content like misogynist content?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 06:37 PM
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I'm happy they are thinking that way, the more women think that way = less marriages and this is better for men.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:31 PM
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lol all premier league players have to get it mandatory because 2 or 3 of them were accused not even found guilty, UK is a joke of country
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:07 PM
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female teachers desperatly need that then by your logic
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:03 PM
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> Culturally, we're going through a period where it's okay to be antagonistic towards some depending on their historical privilege. It's why, if people on twitter want to criticize women, they have to criticize white women, if they want to criticize black people, it must be black men, and if they want to criticize trans people, it has to be white trans people. An average man wasn't more privileged than an average woman. > And if I'm going to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure I can blame some of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 11:43 AM
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the fact that people are doing that in a platfrom where the content usually involves showing their face or maybe their name (perhaps more than any other social media platform) shows how much misandry is tolerated/encouraged in today's society
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 11:06 AM
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because people post in it, 90% twitter, facebook, reddit, instagram etc are not any different for the same reason
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 11:02 AM
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''Ukraine should try to ally Russia, NATO is their real enemy''
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 09:37 AM
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