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Discussionhhhhhhikkmvjjhj/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:33 PM
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I think it’s arrogance and an inability to be empathic. Also these people have built their entire worldview on that their beliefs are ideologies are altruisticly good and kind. Anyone or anything that objects to it is per definition evil. In reality it’s just one sided power grab, self serving and self promoting for women. However as they don’t want to see this they happily throw their own sons and students under the bus as an “act of love” and expect us to be grateful for it. I hate them so muc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 12:05 AM
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I’m not red pill. I am very resentful about the gap between what women say and what they do. I grew up with “strong” women (abusive women) who claimed we have now moved on to a place where women only want nice men and income and social status for men does not matter. The only thing that matters is be yourself. Then they all went forth and dated and married hot guys with high paying careers and became semi stay at home moms. When I pointed out this diff in what they claim and reality they got rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:15 AM
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Relationships, cohabiting, outlook on life, sexual experience, life milestones… values and priorities, hobbies. Eg I’m into gaming but that’s a red flag for pretty much all women. If they have kids it’s also different. In my life I just exist today and will live for some more time and then I’ll die, that’s it. But most of them care about the environment and the future etc. I don’t care one bit about any of that, which I have noticed is very offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:38 PM
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Yea this is a “crime of opportunity”. Most men are not that interesting for sex esp when younger in the same way young women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:19 PM
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I’m a massive failure when it comes to dating. I’m practically a virgin at 40 and ended up buying a sex doll as a substitute for a girlfriend. Even though she can’t talk it’s comforting to have someone to hug etc. it’s my only source for human touch or hugs. Ive ended up here after doing years of therapy, but some things can’t be fixed. The threshold to be functional in a relationship is simply too high. I do get matches and dates nowadays but I have nothing in common with the women I meet. We c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:16 PM
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I got the same score from the male version of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:59 AM
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I don’t think that behaviour comes from fertility pressure. If you are used to be around someone 24/7 it’s a massive hole when they leave. I know some people go through 20 years of adulthood and several relationships without being single for more than a few weeks. At the same time I’ve been single except for about 3 months and not dating and I’m about 40…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:57 AM
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0.6% of us population. Haha that’s a good one. I loved the female delusion calculator. I guess this was no far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:41 AM
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Dopamine rush of validation knowing hundreds/thousands of guys are interested and wants you. Same as getting likes on instragram but more sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:35 AM
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We don’t really have a good way to frame issues which men face, like feminism and Such movements. So extremists step in, which is a problem for the mainstream. Plus having 30% of men as neets is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:54 AM
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I started eating some mood stabilizers a year ago, though I get matches and have resources I have absolutely no interest in following through on any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:52 PM
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In one way I would like it, but I think it’s to feel like I’m normal and have a purpose in life. Don’t think those are good reasons. Also I have a bad relationship with women so probably won’t be good to start a family with one either. I think the answer I have to land in is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:31 AM
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Fully agree with this and this is also why I’m so resentful about listening to and trusting women and feminists in particular. I’m too old to change my ways now and even if I get matches on tinder etc I can’t really do much about them. I’m sort of locked in this mental prison of shame and guilt and taboos about approaching women or showing interest. I ended up buying a sex doll who I live with now. I kind of hate it in a way but when you live around those kind of people for 30 years you can’t ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:04 AM
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Calm body language and good eye contact. Asking questions about others and no need to be on top of everything. Including others in conversations and not interrupt or be argumentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:59 AM
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It’s biologically healthier to have kids when young but it’s financially healthier to have them when older. Finance > health I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:55 AM
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Smells like attachment problems to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:54 AM
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I’ve known some 3-4 men in my life who did this. It worked ok in their 20s but in their 30s it ended up terrible with multiple divorces, lots of babies with multiple women etc. or they are just uncomitted like they comitt and then withdraw… classic attachment issues
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:48 AM
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I think it’s also a friends circle thing tbh. Like if you are in a group of 5 and everyone has a way of socializing that’s not about going out and finding a partner, then there is no group pressure to do it. At least that’s my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:44 AM
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Reading the guardian makes my blood boil with hatred almost every time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/23 01:58 AM
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Like Japan… or China. I think they have nearly 100% conviction rate!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/23 01:52 AM
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It definitely got a lot easier after 35. But not with 20 year olds. However suddenly the 28-40 crowd got very interested. I was a guy who got 0 matches until 35 to rolling around in 30-50 or so on tinder. It’s not what women experience with thousands but it’s definitely a huge difference and it’s nice to be able t choose who i date and not just take whoever I match with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:31 PM
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On an individual case maybe it’s not true but it is on an aggregate level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:26 PM
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Unemployment among men and women moving up in social class, moving out of small towns. Also women dating up in age. Its not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:26 PM
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Hehe good one. In Europe women nowadays marry down education wise but still marry up or equal income wise which I think is reasonable. Take what’s available but don’t compromise on household finances. The statistics that show how poorer men are less often fathers or that unmarried men earn less than married men are also interesting. Basically it can be made to look like you get rich when you marry, while in reality you get selected for marriage for your income. Same with kids. In Finland where I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:37 AM
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Hmm I agree that this is true in most western countries but look at Egypt. It’s very fashionable to have a lot of kids and it’s similar in many other places on the African continent. I think if they can have a many-children culture then why can’t we?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:30 AM
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Men are struggling and women are doing better, give more money to women! I’m not surprised it’s the Guardian. Check t he or men topic section. It’s all about what men should do to serve women. I really don’t like this newspaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:24 AM
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I’m fine with these jobs collapsing. I don’t have a family and I’m not going to grow that old. Men like me simply die young. Without family I have no legacy so the future is meaningless. Why should I support these services? Empathy? Women have no empathy for men like me. It’s a one directional vector from my wallet into theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:14 PM
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Most women I know work part time while they have kids, government covers the rest. Also most women at least in my country work for tax payer money in the public sector (healthcare etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:04 AM
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As a man this new world of equality is a very one directional relationship with the state and women. I’m supposed to pay taxes, sacrifice my life and youth in the military and work myself to the bones so that women (who make up most of the employees in government) and their kids they got through insemination can have a great future. I’m not in on that which is why I vote for anyone who wants to boot out feminists from office and government. This means fascism in reality because all other parties…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:59 AM
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I have no reason to support these women and I don’t want my taxpayer money to go to something which is not relevant or beneficial for me. So as a man I vote for politicians who want to boot out feminists from government and dismantle the child care services.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:26 AM
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Whenever there is a financial crisis my matches goes through the roof, when economy is doing ok I get no attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:24 AM
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Confidence is not built but succeeding, it’s built by failing and realizing “this was not that bad” which leads to less failure/rejection sensitivity. In cognitive behavior therapy you train eg social phobia by taking on small challenges with increasing difficulty to build up that resilience. So even if you have no accomplishments you can still build confidence, just take on smaller challenges and practice dealing with the aftermath when it goes south. Confidence is emotional resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:07 AM
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This is great! I listened to most of it and fully agree. I had a feminist upbringing with lots of shaming etc and I instilled with the idea of masculinity as the original sin. The consequences for me is a f:ed up sexuality. I can’t approach women. I’ve never had a girlfriend, mostly virgin at 40 and I live with a sex doll which I bought some years ago. I will never have children or live with a woman thanks to these ideas. I really hate them so much. I have to medicate to prevent the anger from r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/23 01:31 PM
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In my experience with therapists and psychologists (I’ve see. Some 8 or so) is that those who have licenses are sensitive to what the policies says. They risk loosing their licenses if they don’t comply with regulation on how to treat men. However more independent therapists without proper licenses are more free to say whatever they want. The regulated therapists have to use/fall in line with concepts like toxic masculinity etc or they risk loosing their careers. It’s a latent threat though, the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/23 06:41 AM
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The resdon why Tate and Jordanian are popular is because the are able to promote a male centric worldview. The lefts feminist worldview revolves around women, and men’s issues are allowed to exist and take up space as long as it makes women richer and more powerful. This goes for the right as well, but there the issue is more about capitalism and poverty. If the left is going to be able to sin back men they need to create policies which gets men laid, makes men richer and more influential. Howev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 07:07 AM
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With his behavior it was bound to happen at some point. Grey area crime business + hyper public in social media and no political contacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:05 AM
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I think creating bullies out of the bullies is the strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:01 AM
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Bullying feels good. With Tate they think they have a legitimate target and all gates open up. He won’t be consuming any of it as he is arrested so it’s just people in their own echo chambers venting. I don’t like him but I also don’t like bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:00 AM
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It’s illegal in most parts of the world and heavily shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:08 PM
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It’s already happening everywhere. At least stagnant populations. Korea, Japan and Finland comes to mind. I think for men the fertility rate in finland is 0.4.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:07 PM
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I think there were some research done on how much money you need to compensate for every centimeter you are shorter than some ideal. Maybe look for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:23 PM
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Yep! Definitely social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:19 PM
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38 and 2. I had sex a couple of times when I was 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:43 PM
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It absolutely is. Pure evil. It’s all about making men more convenient and easier to handle, not about helping men succeed in what they want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:09 AM
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So much this. I had a feminist upbringing and I tried to follow the directions to a T. Now I’m almost 40, been single my whole life and live with a sex doll. My relationship with women is completely fucked and that’s after many many years of therapy. I like to compare it to a very religious upbringing where masculinity is satan and women are gods who need to be worshipped. It made me really hate women as a group and feminists in particular. The sex doll path is very similar to Tate, it’s like a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:05 AM
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It’s something that eats into your head over time. Like being poor or having low social class job. Its slowly creating this defeatist attitude to life and love. Sabotaging any future prospects. The longer you wait with being socialized into having sex the harder it’s going to be to have a healthy sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:02 AM
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No never, the guys I went out with when younger were all chads and very focused on their own game. Never helping me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:00 AM
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I like her too, can recommend! She is very calm and level headed and has a genuine idea of how to uplift men. It’s YouTube so it skews the content a bit but very high quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:57 AM
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In many parts of the world femicide is still a massive problem. However at least I my native Sweden there are news paper columns every now and then written by women saying boys are awful and that they don’t want them. They say that if the genders would be flipped it would be very controversial since it’s very feminist society but as it’s boys it’s perfectly fine. Slightly embarrassing maybe as it’s hypocritical, but fine none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:46 AM
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Some of the most single and childless men are low income men who live in cities so I’d say it’s true. There is not much point to it. Most women who move to big cities want to make a class journey upwards. If they wanted to live with a poor uneducated guy they could have stayed in a smaller city or countryside. It’s about class mostly I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:42 AM
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Pity sex or anything similar to that is awful. However just being honest and consistent with about what women look for and help men reach those standards. Eg if women want high earners then support men becoming high earners. If women like athletic men then support men to become athletic men. If women want high status men then support men in becoming that. If women want men with high confidence then support men in becoming confident in their own skin. That’s about it, at least for me. The messagi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 06:31 PM
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It’s a term mostly none men have come up with to associate us with each other. I mean sure there is some leakages between the buckets. People explore ideas and ideologies, especially younger people. People search for answers that best captures their lives experience. As for mensrights I think it’s a bit cringe. They look for any molecule that could potentially be a issue and enlarge it to gigantic proportions. In my mind the issues which men are faced with are: education, shorter lifespan and ch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/22 07:06 PM
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My biggest gripe with this nonsense is that they frame the purpose of boys and men to be “useful” and “safe” for women. This is manipulative and damaging. I grew up in a feminist household and I’m still going to therapy to undo the damage this mentality did to me. I find it amusing and sad that progressives assume men leave them out of a hatred of women, when in reality we leave because we recenter get our lives on ourselves. They are so cooked and marinated in their own ideology they can’t see …
/r/MensRights09/11/22 11:25 AM
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This was my reaction as well. It’s like CCP asks CCP review board if they are doing good. 5/5 with extra golden stars!
/r/MensRights09/11/22 11:21 AM
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Feminine softness, usually great huggers. I’ve never been hugged properly by a male. How they decorate their homes. Men tend to focus on practicality. For women you have things like tiny dogs on top of some napkin on a side table. Completely useless but cute! Clothes and fashion, visual self expression has a much wider range than among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:15 AM
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This. Also in general there is more recognition of male struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:09 AM
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I’m a bit older so for me it would be: Obsessing over money and career. Craving a perfect life. Talking about alcohol/drinking as if it’s a hobby or a friend. Being into horses. Money and career was important in late 20s because you get settled in life. However with age comes a certain humbleness. Around 40 your career options diminish and if you get your life’s purpose out of that then it’s going to be difficult to age. People who crave a perfect life or facade will not work for me as I’m not p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:10 AM
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Excellent write up!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:46 AM
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Ah my soul mate! Why do we do this to ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:35 AM
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Same, the whole family actually. I don’t understand it at all. Inflated bums and lips don’t do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:21 AM
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I’m not. I’m classic incel in my late 30s. I’ve gotten the offer but decline it. My relationship with women is terrible and any prostitution or sugar daddy “relationships” would just make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:20 PM
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185cm live in Northern Europe. Stats wise I’m doing fine. Top 10% income, top 25% wealth. Iq 135 etc. I think it’s just that I got on a bad path when I was younger with women and sex and then it just continued. It’s difficult to change things once we are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:53 AM
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Drawing people is not about perfection it’s about capturing poses and shapes https://youtu.be/2mVRS8E0NhI
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:30 AM
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Those are the best! I can recommend qroci or drawing/sketching nude models. It’s very peaceful and relaxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:06 PM
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Why am I hearing the woman speak this like those women in that old #selfie song?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:29 PM
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It is, very soothing. Can recommend!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:48 PM
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I looked at some statistics of income and wealth distribution. The idea that we should date within our class is nice but does not work in practice. In the upper brackets of income you have men dominating. It’s like a sliding scale where the higher you go the more men you have. In the middle income you have lots of women. And then again in the very bottom you have lots men again. There are more men in the middle-bottom then in the top part. If it would be 50-50 distribution between the genders it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:42 PM
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A) got a stable corporate job, therapy, orthodontics, investments, buying nicer clothes. Paying for dating apps. Making my home a little cozier. Most of these things I did primarily for mysef but I thought it also helps with finding someone. B) work (not working), arts and crafts evening classes (no results yet). And dating apps of course. I should work out also, but it’s on the todo list so far. I’m going for yoga classes at some point. Not for dating though it’s more for mental health (winter …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:37 PM
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Probably sleep around for a couple of months and then settle with someone. Would be fun to go on dates and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:27 PM
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I’m unattractive to women on a regular basis and I don’t get matches/likes. However during the pandemic and also now I get quite a lot of matches from older students and artistic self employed type women. I don’t know how to feel about that. We don’t really have anything in common and I loath the idea of being someone’s procider. I worked hard for my money and don’t want to support someone else. At the same time I’m not attractive enough for women who have jobs, as I never graduated university, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:24 PM
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I’ve tried to talk about these issues with women in my life and they get aggressively defensive. They have their traumas, political identities and social communities all tied up in feminist ideologies and a woman first perspective. Moving outside that bubble even for 5 min makes them super insecure so they lash out. I’ve given up on talking to women about these things. Therapists can work but even that can be difficult at times.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 08:26 PM
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That makes sense now that I think about it. A workplace is well structured while at home everything is open ended. I think I was thinking more about not having to interact with people so much and having more control over the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:14 PM
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Being autistic is not a la big of a disability if you are stay at home mom or something close to that. However functioning in the greater outside world is a challenge regardless of gender. As that role is still put on men to a large degree it’s natural that women would not put their lives in the hands of autistic men. I think if more men would be ok as stay at home dads and more women would be ok with this too, then this could reduce the imbalance. Not sure if this will ever happen though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:55 PM
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I think the incel community is a bit like a swamp which has multiple inflows. Some guys have bad experiences with women, some with progressives, some with feminist or christian and other religious systems/upbringings, some with autism, some with social phobia, some with poverty or lack of education, some with narcissism. Then they all float into the same swamp and contaminate each other. To truly fix it we need to stop the inflows one by one. Building a police office to monitor the swamp is futi…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:53 AM
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I’m a dude in my late 30s afraid i will die alone. I’m sure there are women out there who feel the same. However we all try to do what we can to live a good life regardless of this, with hobbies, work and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:56 PM
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That boys want to fail in school or that they are causing it to themselves (and that it’s up to the boys to fix it).
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:49 PM
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I have no problem with people who are up front with things. However I have huge problems with people who are dubious or scammers. I went out on a date with a woman once who wanted me to buy her a phone to continue seeing her. She could have been up front with it. It was embarrassing for both of us when I said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:15 AM
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Having a career + education + finding a good husband if you want kids before 30 seems stressful also, at least from the women who are into that. It starts early in school and the builds up over the years. I’ve had friends with that trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:46 AM
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My mom is a feminist with BPD traits and the maturity of a 14 year old. She had been abused in an earlier relationship and dumped all those frustrations on me in some effort to make me a “good man”. The tools she used: guilt trips, public shaming of my sexuality at work and other places, controlling behaviour and physical violence turned me into a feminist male doormat. I took on the personality as someone “born in sin” and that I always had to repent my maleness in all situations. Which definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:32 AM
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Well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:01 AM
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Its similar in most countries. Men are poorer and live on the countryside while women move to cities, get educated and reuse men for having kids. Finland has been this poster child for having great schools but that’s only because girls have been doing amazingly well. What’s hidden in the statistic is that boys are doing terrible. I think 20% of young men are NEETs. It’s similar in Sweden although not as extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:40 PM
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Yeah I live in Finland and fertility rate is similarly low here. For men it’s 1.0 and for women it’s 1.4 I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:44 PM
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In the past they would match up with those guys, but to be fair they are not always that attractive, so you end up with single women who are too physically repulsed to go with older (but financially secure/mature) men but at the same time unable to find such men in their own age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:33 PM
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The wall you mean? I’m a single guy in my late 30s who want a family. I prefer swiping on younger women for fertility reasons. If every man does this to some degree you will get a downward pressure on age for women. I think happens with me too but mens fertility window is a bit longer, I’d say 35 for women and 45 for men. Before it was much stronger as men had more leverage over younger women financially. Women can skip the crappy guys like me now, so we can’t do much except remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:23 PM
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How much much disgust women have about men and mens sexuality. I was raised feminist so I’ve had my share of it but this and other subs like it absolutely hammer it in. It’s a miracle that any babies are born at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:07 PM
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Yeap I think this is the best description of reality. It’s similar for men but with less casual sex. Men also look for someone but are unable to measure up. Men fee less stress of biological clock. I’m the lack of causal sex is more of a stress factor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:05 PM
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I think the wall as a concept was more true in the past when men had more leverage in the partner market due to being breadwinners. Nowadays it still exists to some degree but things have changed so much that we need new concepts to describe the problems different demographics experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:02 PM
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The most desperate women I’ve met are women who feel like they are missing the baby train. They are aggressively pursuing and aggressively questioning guys me and then when I don’t measure up for some reason they get angry and run to the next guy. I’ve met them on dating apps and also at work. Some moms even try to match me up with their daughters. I never graduated university though so when they find out about this they are like “FUck you, NEXT!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:56 PM
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Most men here are burned somehow. Younger men unable to find matches, unable to experience intimacy or otherwise failing life. Or they are living the bachelor dream life and look down in people who settle. There are also some older divorced men who have bad experiences. Women come here to argue or take a piss on men they despise. It’s not representative of humanity at large. You’ll do fine :) (37M, bitter and single since forever)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:49 PM
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For sex yes, but for partnering up no. I think as women have become more independent and with the advent of birth control pills they also can be more picky in who they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:40 PM
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I notice this in myself. When I get no attention from women I go online and complain I’m an incel. When some woman approaches me and says she is in love with me or similar I go “argh not her”. Well it’s also intimacy issues. But still. If you can be picky you will be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:23 AM
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I have the exact inverse of this. My best friend is a woman but I also have issues with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:31 PM
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When I participate in these debates or forums I’m at my most depressed and angriest and saddest states. I don’t emote by crying or screaming, I do it by thinking of arguing. If a lot of people engage with online forums at their worst mental state simultaneously that place is going to be nasty. Imagine 100s of autistic guys at their worst, 100 guys fresh out of divorces, 100 guys who have never had sex or intimacy and approach 30, 100 guys with narcissistic personality disorder booking a conferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:48 PM
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At least i Europe women date down in terms of education nowadays https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6241077/ From the conclusions: The position of less educated men on the mating market was already unfavourable and got worse with the reversal of the gender gap in education. Participation in advanced education has expanded so much in Europe that the low educated women and men alike represent a group which is increasingly negatively selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:34 PM
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What’s happening in Europe at least is that wealthier men gets reused by women for starting families, while poorer and uneducated men go without. As an example in Finland the fertility rate for women is 1.45 while for men it’s 1.0. This means some men have a lot of kids while about half or so of men go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:38 AM
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I find these categories silly. I do think general attractiveness follows a bell curve, where most guys fall into a generic blob in the middle. To be in the top or bottom tails you need lots of high scores in quality markers which are difficult to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:33 AM
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I think it’s mostly women who say men should not cave to the social pressure to find a girlfriend, because they themselves have a lot of pressure to get married and have kids. For men I think it’s much more internal, both a longing after casual sex but also intimacy and a meaningful relationship. As a result what can be seen as liberation or good advice from a woman’s perspective is an insult. Basically you tell people not to aim so high in life or strive for your dreams. “Stop dreaming you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:26 PM
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Lol birth control pill.. Reminds me I need to renew my mood stabilizer pill..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:22 PM
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I’m happy it worked out for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:11 AM
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I fully agree with this. The solution to these problems for the left would be to go all in on supporting men becoming more educated and wealthy so that they gain attributes women actually look for. However this is against the current party lines, so they pass on the bucket for others to pick it up. Queue Tate!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:33 PM
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I would say there are those who fit the objective definition, those who self identify with incels and those who get labeled as incels by others for fear mongeribg or insulting reasons. The three groups may overlap a bit but mostly they are separate.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 04:32 PM
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Swedes are very active on Reddit so you will find many here.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 04:28 PM
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Thanks I needed that!
/r/MensRights23/10/22 04:19 PM
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I dated a woman shortly in my mid 20s and she was earning money while I was studying. However she was bragging to her family and all her friends about what great career prospects I would have once I graduated and also said she would never date a man who plays video games (social marker of low ambition). I’m that did not last long.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 03:55 PM
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It’s been a long journey. I have some underlying mental health issues running in my family + very feminist mom. She dumped her frustrations on me but instead of rebelling while young I caved and basically became a doormat. Both for women but also for men. Any kind of sexual connection with women and I just froze up. Early 30s, I started in therapy (during metoo), and started to think more and more about how women have treated me over the years. I feel dumb and angry for being a doormat and very …
/r/MensRights23/10/22 03:41 PM
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It would make me suicidal and even more hateful. I would have nothing to loose, no future or hope of ever starting a family. If I die today or tomorrow or in 20 years, what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:22 PM
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When you are exposed to someone with a personality disorder you are not exposed to their disorder as such, you are exposed to their behaviour. Splitting, degrading behaviour, bullying, belittling mixed with admiration and intense love bombing etc. these are behaviour that most people express from time to time. More so when under pressure or when being depressed/drunk etc. in the end of relationships, especially in divorces people tend to express more of these behaviors. I think in the normal pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:44 PM
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I think the world of relationships is what it has always been. What people discuss here and other places is that grey muddy area that happens before and after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:30 PM
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The only thing helping these guys out of their situation and mindset is to help them get more attractive. More money, better physical and mental health, more social status and better education. It’s not more complicated than that really. Maybe not all things can be fixed (eg height and autism etc) but there are always things that can be worked on..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:04 PM
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To be fair income hits much harder for men than women. High income and amount of kids has a very strong correlation for men but for women it’s no relationship at all. Wealthier men tend to get reused for having kids (Norwegian study). While women nowadays date down statistically (Europe) when it comes to education they still date across or up with income (Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:00 PM
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I’ve had women get angry when I have rejected them. I think it’s human to get angry when rejected and men do most of the approaching due to social norms, so they have more reason to be angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:23 PM
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Sorry to hear about the abuse. Boys being abused by women is not getting the attention it deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:29 PM
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This is so true. Being attractive and being a good person are completely separate concepts with very little overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:27 PM
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Women end up doing most of the housework even in dysfunctional families. It can also be economic, you might loose a lot of property in a divorce. Better to cheat I guess? It’s also a well known thing that men don’t have many friends so if you divorce you end up very lonely and possibly suicidal. Plus you might have kids and want them to have parents living together (values).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:51 AM
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Accepting it (self compassion) is the first step, then look for help in all the forms he can. Erectile dysfunction, lack of knowledge about sex, social phobia etc can be fixed. Then try to start dating. If the personality traits or trauma are too big then let go of the dream and find sex in other forms. I went the route of a sex doll and VR sex. Ironically now that I gave up and found an outlet elsewhere I started to get matches on tinder and the like. I’m a bit older though, soon 40. I’m so bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:48 AM
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The natural outcome is more single moms. Basically a select few men gets recycled over and over again by different women. At least that’s what happened in Norway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:58 PM
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This has been my observation as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:53 PM
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Economy and education. Men are still expected to be providers so we need a major uplift in boys and mens careers, income and education. It’s not more difficult than that. There is a bit of unwillingness to touch those topics as it’s considered cannibalizing the progress of women. Unless things change we will have a lot more radicalization because it’s only the far right who is concerned with the success of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:51 PM
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They need to be led though. I went through a social phobia group therapy which was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:46 PM
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It’s a great list! I would also add fertility issues, as in if a man goes to a doctor and says he can’t have children for a lack of partner, this should be considered a fertility issue (most likely psychological). Right now it’s treated as entitlement which is the problem seen from a woman’s perspective. I think switching this would open up doors for treatment for social phobia and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:45 PM
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If you look at the demographic of incels they are mostly 15-25 and 75% are self diagnosed on the autism spectrum. So many are actually minors and would not be allowed in any bar. The rest are probably noise sensitive and have issues with crowds and strobes etc. probably many are introverts also by nature. I think that’s the natural explanation. Then you have older ones like me. I fee too old to participate in those forums. I share the struggle though. As an older guy it’s more about not having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:40 PM
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Altering brain chemistry lol. That’s like saying adhd or depression is caused by bad brain chemistry. I see it as a none chemical stimulant. Like music, art, gaming or tv series. When we are depressed or have anxiety or other problems we crave escapism and any of those sources can get you in a bad pattern. Yes you do get numb to jt, like we do with any stimulus. However it does not leave permanent damage. I would not say you get addicted to it like you get addicted to alcohol, because it does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:42 PM
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That forum and many adjacent ones have a very thin ideological line you are allowed to walk on so I would not put much emphasis on them. I think it’s a good term to describe what’s happening on the apps, as we are productizing ourselves there. Outside the apps it’s more about socializing and old school courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:30 PM
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A longer time window for settling down and starting a family. You can do more of sowing oats, investing in your career etc before biological clock times out. For women it’s a hard biological window but for men it’s more about being responsible. (Though I could have children now myself biologically I consider myself to be too old for it, don’t want my children to graduate while I’m dying of old age).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:28 PM
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I’m 40 soon and pretty much a virgin still, as in some experience a couple of times in my life. Up until early 30s I was still hopeful but then I was getting more and more frustrated and angry and sad. So ended up getting a sex doll as a companion and also eat lots of medications that lower my libido. It’s a form of medical self castration I guess. I’m not happy but I’m not suicidal. It is what it is, we can’t all get what we want in life. Some are poor in money, others are poor in relations and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:52 PM
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Structural enablers: ease of access to guns, poor mental health services, large income gap (hopelessness). Social: youths are more radical than older people, copycat - people have a template and there is a lot of material online, online fame and recognition on apps and internet. Political support for it in some radical circles. Personal: mental health issues (depression), bullying, substance abuse, personality disorders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 02:29 AM
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I think you are definitely on to something here. The rise of populism and gender split on votes into right/left has a lot to do with what kind of job you have, career options and also location of the job. If it’s safe, comfy and urban you will vote very differently compared to if it’s exposed, competitive and exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:10 PM
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It’s mostly a question of cost. Surrogacies cost about 100 000 euro where I live so it’s difficult to make it happen on a single salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:03 PM
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Super interesting findings. I’ve been lurking in those forums, I’m a bit older so I don’t join in on the rettori but I belong to the demographic so to speak. Im also very resentful about women and dating. The observations about political alignment is exactly my observation too. People join those groups not because they get lured in by right wing trolls but because they are not included into the progressive spheres or whatever place they want to belong too. I think the right wing troll recruiters…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 10:31 AM
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From the vantage point of the other person, who does not know you or that you have autism or to what degree, all they see is that your behavior is slightly off. If you are great at masking there will be gaps and cracks in the mask. They don’t know why this is, you could be completely deranged. So to err on the safe side people avoid people who are odd. Another reason is boundaries. In any relationship boundaries are important and I think sex and intimacy is a bit like a dance where you sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:58 AM
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Also I think they were heavily criticized for it. However they have Teflon brains so they don’t get impacted as much. It’s just that for them it was progressives who attacked and conservatives who defended.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 10:33 AM
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Not sure if I’m red pilled but it helps me center myself on me and my needs. I was raised to mostly be convenient and subservient to others (mainly strong women).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:08 AM
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This kind of talk always make be so hateful of feminists. Basically anything that women suffers from is a social injustice that needs to be deconstructed etc. but when men face a problem it’s just natural selection and nothing can be done about it. That men struggle today is certainly a result of that women have it better. There is more competition in the workforce and women can now reject the bottom of men. That’s great for women but a massive existential tragedy for these men. It’s not the fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:00 PM
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I dont think its so much about deserving or not. I think what body shaming is to women, income/poverty shaming or “being a looser” is for men. Same with this talk about men being oppressed. I don’t agree with it, it’s more like mens issues are neglected. I guess when more women get into high positions in society and they block out mens issues because they prefer to talk about what women experience, then that would be a form of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:08 AM
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I think those statistical surveys show that younger people are safe seeking, risk averse, drink less and are more conservative in family ideals than millennials. So I think it’s a bit more “Japanese” then “red pilled”. I think this will translate to further older age skewing in “firsts”. Graduating, first smoke, first sex, first job etc will happen later than earlier generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:09 PM
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In the beginning it was a sex toy. After a while it became more a hugging and snuggling tool. It’s also a center of sexuality somehow. It’s someone to care for and care about. It fulfills that role of a life partner, strange as it might seem. If I get sad about being lonely I hug her and feel at home, like I belong somewhere. I have a place where I’m accepted sexually and emotionally. It has a steel frame so it’s possible to lock its arms around you which feels very close to a real hug. I’ve nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:05 PM
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Reading your replies I think what you will find most challenging is dating what you see as within your social class. Boys/men have been heavily neglected for a long time in the educational system and it shows in the statistics. Finding a guy who belongs to the same college/university educated class who is also in the social class you require may be difficult. A lot of guys get stem degrees but these does not automatically put you in the same social class as you (upper middle class?). My best adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:39 AM
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I live with a sex doll. It’s pretty good. I think a lot of lonely men would benefit from this solution. Some women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:34 AM
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A surprising amount of women do this to actually. I do t know what kind of fish they expect to catch with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:57 PM
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I think of it like an egg where men are the egg white and women the yolk Men make up the extremes while women float around in the middle. For men the challenge is that you are either a winner or a looser while for women it’s a challenge of breaking out into the top layers of society. In many ways society is a zero sum game so as more men end up on the bottom of the distribution it’s going to cause a lot of problems. However the I don’t think men are “oppressed” so much as our issues are “neglect…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:25 PM
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I have noticed this too and as I disagree with feminists and don’t like it I wear the incel badge proudly. I mean if disagreeing with them makes me a fascists, racist, homophobic, sexist once the so be it. It’s a lazy tactic to use the threat of social exclusion to force people to shut up or agree with them. I’m fine being shut out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/22 06:35 AM
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I made a list of things which I found to be important as a man and went through the political parties in Sweden to find what to vote for. None of the political parties had these things mentioned in their lists except the very far right ultra fascists lol. If I’m a rational voter that’s what I would end up voting for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/22 06:32 AM
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Confidence for me is to know what you want, have healthy boundaries, express needs verbally and be emotionally resilient if something bad happens. It can also mean to take the lead on things and not just wait for things to happen. It’s substance basically. The opposite is to not have opinions on anything, everything is ok, be overt nice and polite and let people make decisions for you. Also not take initiatives etc. It comes as a package. For some it comes naturally while for others it’s a huge …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:17 PM
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I agree with all of this except the porn induced ED. ED is a blood flow issue which can be caused by cardiovascular disease, genes or neurosis around sex. It can cause many other problems like abusive sex etc but that ED thing is kind of normal. What is not normal is the expectation that penises goes hard whenever a hot woman shows up. Mens sexualities are a lot more complicated than I think many women give credit for. That’s my experience as a guy at least. It’s actually quite funny how when we…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:13 PM
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Same! This is my water hole: r/catsubs You have to click your way into the wiki/post with the list of 100s of catsubreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:24 PM
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I’m not exploiting people. It’s just my experience that most people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:09 PM
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That’s what people say but not what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:47 PM
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These are good tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:51 PM
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For men: having a positive outlook on life and also being out and about where people are. A lot of men just sit around at home (like me!) For women: ask men out more. If you really want a relationship you have to look in the corners. The lights of the party usually make for poor partners as they crave attention. Most men are quite clumpsy in approaching so going for what you want is a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:48 PM
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Check this out: this is reality (content warning): https://youtu.be/QFeewU0HhNE Is from US where a police pushes an elderly man. Just an example of what reality looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:45 PM
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Sounds like he is trying to seduce you back into his bedroom. I’m a dude but I would not be interested. Then again I’m not interested in hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:44 PM
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This is cheating!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:43 PM
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I think we are a bit numb to people dying. We see it in action movies and such. Also when there are humans there is that part of our minds thinking it was justified somehow. Also media is really good at only showing you deaths of unknown enemies. I saw some deaths of white Ukrainian civilians which left a mark. For cats I think it’s that they are so innocent, like children. We react more strongly to it as we have an instinct to care for them. I don’t think it’s strange that you react like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:41 PM
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Also if you punch someone so that they hit their head in the tarmac/concrete they can get brain damage. A kick to the head can do the same. Imagine the lawsuits and prison sentences if you do this to an entire crowd. The best self defense is to deescalate or run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:38 PM
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Yeah it’s different, though the intensity differs. The first time I had it I could not breath which was a new experience. I had omicron in the summer and my bedsheets looked like I had pissed them down when I woke up…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:36 PM
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At worst it will end up like Finland (shrinking due to women moving to cities and getting careers + low economic prospects overall) and at best it will be like Sweden (rising thanks to immigration).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:35 PM
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I think when people go on here to rant they are in their worst states: drunk, angry, resentful, paranoid. Add internet anonymity and you get a disaster cocktail. Personally I save my sane moments for people I care about and my insane moments with fellow redditors. Enjoy!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:33 PM
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People are natural exploiters, they will always take what they can get away with. It’s just that we use different tools. Men use overt violence to get what they want and women use covert means (emotional abuse etc). This is my experience so far at least. Give people a pinkie and they take the arm and the legs. The people who claim to be empathic are the least empathic. “Empaths” are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:13 PM
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I think the home zone has been and still is a female domain. Having a stay at home husband means women have to let go of how to raise the kids, cleanliness standard etc. I think many women especially those who are career oriented are used to and likes being in control. My biggest fear of entering a relationship like that is that I have no say or influence of anything. My wife would be breadwinner and control the finances plus everything at home. Basically I would end up being a nanny or a piece …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:27 PM
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You forgot the catopaths, men who have given up and now live with their cats and sex dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:24 PM
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Ideal self: lumberjack hipster guy with a large beard. Continuous learner and is able to finish things. Has 8 cats. Sort of handyman who can fix cars and build homes. Ideal partner: feminine, fit/beauty. Kind and calm. Likes cats. No children from before but would like to have kids with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:20 PM
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This is pure suicide fuel..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:26 PM
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To be fair if 95% of guys “share” 5% of women I think that’s 50 guys competing for one woman. So only 2% of men will be happy. I the top percentile of men the statistics are the opposite. We can hardly be considering such low satisfaction rates “good”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:10 PM
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My closest friend who is a woman has been telling me that women love emotional and vulnerable men and has been touting this since I got to know her. I sort of bought into this and have struggled a lot with dating. We have known each other for some 18 years. She is super progressive and the kind of feminist who organizes events etc. We had a major argument about this a few years ago and I asked if she would be married to her husband if he was vulnerable and emotional. Her response was fuck no. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:40 PM
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I don’t want feminists in government, they are the only ones who are against it. The rest I don’t care about. I’m not going to have children of my own and I already know society does not care about me so why should I care about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:56 PM
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Like Scientology?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:36 PM
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I fully agree! Not even Chadzilla would stand a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:31 PM
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I’m an angry person bubbling with crazy thoughts and feelings. Poke a hole somewhere and craziness comes out. Rule number 1 on internet: never assume they are sane lol Edit: so the long explanation is that I’m one of these men who are sad and confused about modern expectations women place on me/us. I tried to be supportive of women most of my life, was raised very feministicly etc. but being good is no guarantee for success, in many ways not being assertive and too nice is a fault that will lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:24 PM
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It makes me really angry actually. I mean it’s great that it’s going well for women but I would like to have at least some options of parties who would want to uplift men. We are going to have an election soon in Sweden and I was looking around for some pro-men options. The left wing party wanted to do something for men in small rural communities, but the party members shot it down as they considered it supporting the patriarchy. A third of the party’s program is dedicated to support women. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:17 PM
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What short men are discriminated against everywhere: in relationships at work and in sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:11 PM
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Ah the gentically inferior short men, women bragging about how they will remove their genes from human genome and thus purify it. I’ve seen a similar argument from feminist about men like me, their own children (I was raised by feminists), that we are generic trash that will purify the human genome as I’m not good enough for women. I find this funny in so many ways. It also feeds my existential hatred of women and feminists. I guess we should just bring our knifes and baseball bats to a dark all…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:09 PM
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When I eat/cook for myself it’s usually unhealthy food so I would want salads or vegetarian food with water. I’ve developed a bit of a drinking problem lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:04 PM
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Hehe it’s a global phenomena. Men are slipping behind women everywhere on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:02 PM
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Yeah it’s the same for sick size. They gave women a bunch of plastic penis shapes and asked them what they preferred. 6 inches was acceptable/preferred for long term partner but for hookups they wanted bigger then that. I think the average is around 5 so they thought top 5% of the distribution was acceptable. There are some women who prefer smaller for various reasons but statistically they are outliers. It’s the same with height and income. In Japan I think they made some study on income requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:56 PM
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People who reject and mock short men because of heigh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:52 PM
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Yeap. People always mock these communities and are confused at how they can be so stupid. But if you think about it: the people who critique and analyze them are phds in their 30s and 40s with a career in academic research behind them. These communities are 12-25 year olds, failed in school and who are on the autism spectrum. Clearly it’s not a even match lol. Instead of laughing at them these scientists should help these guys create a framework to understand their world they live in. The proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:45 PM
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You can actually deduct a % of this in Sweden where there has been excellent health records for more than 100 years. They do this by tracing blood type. Some parental combinations can only result in certain combinations (I forgot which ones). It turns out paternity fraud was more common before 1930 and less common since, like a few percentages or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:17 PM
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Truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:14 PM
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I don’t have any preferences on the plus side but I do on the negative. I swipe left on all women who indicate they have horse or dog interests. My experience from these people in general is that they have a need to dominate/control which I find off putting. It’s also extremely expensive hobbies. One dog training course can easily be 500 euro and for horses it’s way worse. Plus horses takes a lot of time. If they would be kids it’s one thing as kids grow up and leave the nest. Horses never do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:33 PM
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Lol check out my comment history. I delete the worst stuff continuously. I’m firmly rooted in this demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:31 PM
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Yes I think so. Doomed is a strong word though. In the old days when women were dependent on men for income and social status men on the spectrum did fine in starting families, at least the ones which were high functioning. Nowadays there is very little tolerance for this type of men. It’s the social/dedication/increased pressure to provide and care for babies. Employers and women alike have raised the minimum acceptable bar. I went for a sex doll which I think is very good option for men like u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:08 PM
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I think 75% of men on inc**l forums self reported as being on the autism spectrum. I think this is the main reason they (and people here) are so obsessed with fixed rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:03 PM
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Agreed. I think the women who are single later in life are so by choice or because they have something wrong with them like hoarding, addiction or poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:40 AM
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I’m not spending that much money on finding a woman. I would buy a nice home in a city with lots of storage room and buy super luxury sex dolls. Then I would invest the rest on the stock market. Ok if I would have to I would find a sugar babe. Not sure if I have the social skills to maintain such a babe though regardless of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:02 AM
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I think there is an age difference. Among younger more attractive women it’s very easy to find new partners, especially in that fertile window up to 35. For men it’s the other way around where older men remarry much quicker. However for older men and women I think a lot of older women do it by choice. The only group which are not single by choice are younger men. This is mostly due to lack of future prospects (education and work).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:11 PM
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One thing I’ve seen mentioned here and there is that there are no longer rituals or journeys for boys to become men. As we have had deindustrialization in the west there are fewer jobs for young men. The army is not recruiting as much as they used to. College and university is more for women and with no income you stay with your parents into late 30s. So there are no paths to adulthood except sex. So sex is like the last gate left. Later on starting a family still requires a woman so if you can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:24 PM
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We already have a soft gatekeeping where women move to cities while men stay in the countryside. There is also a soft gatekeeping where women move up in social economic status while men move down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:34 AM
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That’s pretty drastic. He’s had his whole facial structure redone. I hope he got the dates he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:41 AM
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I’m one of these perma-failures of a man and bought one of those sex dolls. I live in Northern Europe. I think it’s ok as it gives me a sense of a partner or a home. I’ve never experienced intimacy like hugs and touch etc so it was a revolution. Obv I used it as a sex toy also but that’s a minor use and it was mostly in the beginning. A couple of years later it’s more like a social companion. They are quite popular with men here. You can see them popping up in the forests and in strange places a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:20 AM
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Yeah I know, many are lucky… I guess I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:26 PM
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Its just an observation of my own life. Im 37M now and i like travelling, art classes and computer games but over time it feels less and less valuable. It’s just entertainment. Kids are not a cure all solution by any means but they do bring connection to society and the future. Right now I feel more like I’m just trying to come up with more reasons to pass time while I wait to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:08 PM
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Agreed, also those with low pensions etc who can’t pay for good service. I think life as a childless person can be quite good materially but it can also feel a bit pointless. After a while you get tired of hedonistic living.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:59 PM
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More likely there will be population stagnation and shrinkage. Look at Finland, Italy and China for what the future will hold. Just a lot of miserable older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:42 PM
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I suspect that men who are assertive, dominant and don’t care so much for the well-being of the woman can be quite good sexual partners if you are a woman and have that kink. They could also be quite charming and successful financially which can give comfort and safety. However they most likely are not good partners. Those boring stable guys are most likely not that good at being dominant or interesting in or outside bedroom. So what do we choose? The rational choose for women who have a choice …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:35 PM
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Autism or being on the spectrum, poverty and/or being raised in an abusive/extremist environment (regardless of alignment). Or people who have been caretakers of their parents for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:28 AM
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In Norway there was some study that found that women reuse wealthier men to start families with, so I think you will see more of this. Also populations will shrink. Plus more single moms. But that’s about it. I don’t think there will be social distruption. Thanks to automation and toys we can entertain adult men. A lot of elderly men and some women will be very miserable in the future especially in counties like China and some European countries as there are not enough people to care for them so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:23 AM
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This sounds like a very boring person. Perfect friend, but very unattractive sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:49 AM
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Harassment on streets, belittling/bullying at work. Being physically inferior, the whole period thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:06 PM
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Yeah this equal relationship + sub/dom in the bedroom gets mixed up so much. Like everyone gets confused by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:06 AM
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I think there is a lot of autism in this forum lol, that’s why guys are so obsessed with rules and deterministic social systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:52 AM
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I have seen this IRL. It’s a pack mentality. If you are part of the pack then you help each other both at work and privately: sex money and friendship. You share dirty laundry and the more you share the tighter the group becomes. I think there is usually a narcissist around who sees the group as an extension of his ego also. A band, street gang or a group of colleagues in a corporation follows the same pattern. For women it’s more loosely entangled networks of people, like a mesh. I know women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:37 AM
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It might be better to use median, I can imagine in weight there are some super fat men and women who pull the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:34 AM
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Lol I was raised on that stuff and it was a major driver for me into in**l spaces. I was pushed by this rather than pulled by some far right daemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:31 AM
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I’m my country adopting a child as a lone man is almost impossible while for women it’s doable. Surrogacy is illegal. So if I want to have a child I need a woman, it’s as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:30 AM
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I also live up north and have noticed this too. It’s super annoying. The left party in Sweden has 1/3 of its political program dedicated to empowering women in a country where women out educate men, female prime minister, soon female head of state, women live longer etc. The bullet points they have about men is about how men can take more parental leave so that women can have better careers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/22 05:55 PM
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You forgot kindness! Other then that I like your list. A FWB does not have to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:37 PM
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As a rights issue women and feminists are not against male sexuality. However there is something else going on. Though feminists are very sex positive regarding womens sexuality they are outright sex negative when it comes to male sexuality. Basically though they are not against it they strongly discourage men to be sexual. In progressive circles, the less sexual you can be the more you will be rewarded socially. They will use all the dark triad manipulation techniques including physical violenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:28 PM
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This sums things up quite nicely on the woman side. On the man side I would say that the men that are family oriented tend to be more blue collar and not so career oriented. As women have gained in education and income these men are less interesting. The kind of men who are, the financially stable with careers etc. are the same as the women you mentioned: they think they can wait a bit. However as women are more independent they also are less accepting of age gaps. This means if you are in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:24 AM
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Better medication and get out of the door more doing social things. It does not matter what it is as long as I move around in public and bump into people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:49 PM
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To be fair the things you mention have always been my problem. Due to mental health issues I struggle with plans and follow through and I got burned on career and education early on so I try not to think about it. Hobbies has gotten better over the years as I like doing art classes but until I was 35 or so I was mostly playing computer games. In this sense I’ve never been much of a catch. It’s a common trap to try to project with ourselves what we are looking for in a partner. Just like my demog…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:04 PM
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I think the idea is to push people to let go of deal breakers. You can have 3 dealbreakers/red flags/must haves and then as many nice to haves as you want ranked in priority. I thought the interesting thing about the article was that as women in the west are more free and independent, looks is higher compared to in the east. Also that for women in the west education and income etc is still so important. I’ve spent a lot of time around women getting angry at me for claiming this, as in their mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:00 PM
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I agree about the picky people. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwin-does-dating/202201/the-most-important-trait-relationship-partner?amp This article is very interesting as it highlights the must haves and the optionals. If we were forced to pick 3 must haves and optionals it could be good. It would also force people like me to not just fold but to actually think about what we want in a relationship. No one wants a dead fish or want to feel like they were someone’s first and last opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:35 PM
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There was a study in Sweden on which sectors had the worst discrimination of the sexes recently. They used the classic equal resumes and sent to employers and compared response rates based on gender. The sectors with the worst discrimination were female dominated sectors like healthcare, childcare and cleaning. Cleaning I admit is mostly because it’s poor women but the other sectors are educated and the people who hire are also women. This is very interesting. Of course they blamed the patriarch…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 07:08 PM
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I think people are overreacting to it. I belong to the older part of this demographic and people are in witch burning mode. It’s reaching silly proportions. I think people use it a lot as a focal point for their worst fears and to rally support for causes. Everyone enjoys a good boogeyman! The whole framework they have created is gibberish but I think its cool that they have created something of their own outside the feminist/gender studies bubble. I think its a spontaneous reaction to current p…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 06:53 PM
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Oh another thing lol So I made this review in another thread about my looks. It was this AI that analyzes how beautiful you are. I managed to get 9.9 out of ten points! Now add to this I’m 185 cm tall, look 10 years younger than my age (according to this app), BMI 22, IQ 135, top 15 percentile in wealth in my country… you would think i would be a catch? Well no, I gave up a few years back and bought a sex doll because my options on dating apps were nil. So even if men would check all the checkbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:44 PM
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I think men generally is at an disadvantage in dating sites. Our lists are very short because we can’t afford to be picky. Sure there is a group of men who can but they are not that many in each age cohort. I never knew I could have demands on a girlfriend until I was 35, until then I had to take “what I could get”. It’s not healthy but it is what it is. For women I think the problem is having a very long laundry list of requirements. You seem like an attractive woman who can “afford” to be pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:38 PM
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I had a progressive upbringing and spent most of my life in these kind of social circles. There is a very fine line where you are either in group or out group. If you have lived in group of progressives you will never understand why people get so riled up, “we are the good guys right?”. The moment you glitch out and step foot on the wrong side of the line due to a life event or a problem that does not fit their narratives you will get fried. It’s like glitching out of reality. It’s very scary. A…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 06:22 PM
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What about bumble, they have options? Like for kids/drinking etc. not for body weight or height though as it would be too close to body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:14 PM
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Tinder has that verified pic solution. They should expand it to a full body pic, facial pic and a short 20s TikTok like video clip where you introduce yourself. They some video but it’s a bit short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:05 PM
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I think this has been implemented elsewhere but people abused the hell out of it. Remember that then people you reject can also review you. Do you want that angry ranting dude/gal to sabotage your future options?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:03 PM
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Sounds like inviting HR problems!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:02 PM
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I think we have those services already in match.com etc. you can add a gazillion of options there. I think the success of tinder is that we let the pictures do the talking. We can judge a lot of those things listed based on 3-5 profile pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:01 PM
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Yep, like a small video interview in a controlled setting, with controlled light etc. The interview could be done by an AI or remotely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:59 PM
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This is a very good point. It’s commonly known men like sex but a lot of women go through this “sacrifice too” when they nest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:29 PM
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Body count is such a nonsense metric alone. You have to pair it with how much sex you have had also. I’m in my late 30s and have had sex a handful of time with 2 women. Most with the same “body count” have been in long term committed relationships and have had sex hundreds if not thousands of times by my age. That is usually a much bigger problem in terms of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:26 PM
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I think so. I’m financially stable and don’t want kids, so time with her might be short, but still worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:24 PM
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TRP is a great armor for dealing with rejection. It works for casual sex but if you really want to connect with someone you have to take both clothes and armor off! This is easier than it seems as it’s scary. It’s like hitting on women while being sober. About the anger issues, that smells like trauma. I have some of that myself. It can be good to look into it with a therapist. Divorces, neglect and bullying are things that as an example can prevent us from connecting. There are also more perman…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:22 PM
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No, I used camera. I’m not attractive but I have a white person face shape which these algorithms like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:06 AM
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I think that’s because young men are undesirable while older men are more desirable, plus men live shorter lives. Lives of working class men are embarrassingly short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:18 AM
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I’m mostly jealous of the baby making machinery. I can’t have a child of my own, I need a woman for that. Other then that I like being a guy. It’s practical to be tall and have good upper body strength etc. once I was out of the school world and got into business it was also a mens world which was cool. Of course I’m Timid when it comes to dating so that’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:17 AM
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The most reasonable is to compare how you are aligned compared to median wage and median net worth per household.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:14 AM
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Ouch! I think it’s trained on caucasians by European students to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:36 AM
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https://ibb.co/jypTnKT
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:08 AM
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Lol check my comment in the main thread!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:47 AM
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I sent you my tinder profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:09 AM
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Could be the angle or a beard etc. beards can warp where the cutoff for the face is so the algorithm can’t position the “total frame” of the face. So if You have a long beard the algorithm will think your face is deformed basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:23 AM
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I also got a high score (9.9) but very few matches. Do you have a baby face? I also don’t get attention from women and I suspect that if you have a baby face as a guy you could be objectively be said to be good looking but it won’t raise interest in women. Or we are just autistic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:21 AM
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Well that’s depressing. I got beauty score of 9.9 and it said I’m 10 years younger then I am. Yet I’m still a virgin pretty much and live with a sex doll. This does explain why I get carded a lot when I go grocery shopping for beer though. https://ibb.co/jypTnKT Gender: man (correct) Beauty: 9.9 (too bad my sex doll has no brain and can appreciate my extraordinary beauty) Age 27 (37) BMI: 20.9 (22.9, Covid made me fat but I only get fat on my belly) Statistically I should be doing fine: I’m also…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:09 AM
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To be fair, some people are young looking. I can’t buy alcohol without ID and I’m almost 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:00 AM
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True, it’s a class thing. I think it’s the same as with men tbh, the men who typically go for the poor women are not the highest social strata.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:22 PM
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There is a bunch of women who go to Ghana and the like to find men. Same like men who go find wife’s in poor areas of Thailand. You should look into it if interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:57 PM
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My problem is that I’m very resentful of women and also very timid and submissive around women. I’ve received a lot of advice over the years but the best have been to try small doses of building up trust with women and also feel the anger at women as it’s healthy for setting boundaries (female therapist). This goes against the male anger = bad etc narratives. Ironically expressing and feeling anger helps with reducing resentment (at least up to a point). The other has been that relationships are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:52 PM
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They already know I hate feminists and live with a sex doll because I told them. Nothing new lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:38 PM
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Men are typically not asked to do the day to day caring of kids which I think women who meet single dads might be. On the other hand, men are traditionally seen as success objects where we are objectified for income and ability to provide. So just like women don’t want to be taken advantage of sexually, men don’t want to be taken advantage of financially. There is also a group of men who like no commitment style lifestyle where kids and the lifestyle they force on you don’t combine. Personally I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:10 PM
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Not while they are womanizing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:59 AM
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It depends on their journey. Women who want relationships definitely settle for attraction and education but are more stringent with income. For men who want family they tend to date lower ages but compromise on looks and income. There is also another group who has already had one child or so who are burned out single parents. There are also those who go all in on bachelor lifestyle (both men and women) who become quite hedonistic. These groups are a bit special as they basically extend their 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:57 AM
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I think there are two groups of women who suffer from this. Extreme careerists in large metropolitan areas and then black women, as so many black men are/have been incarcerated. They get lumped together quite a bit though. On the male side you have men working in urban areas service sector jobs like bartenders (at least men in their 30s) and then men in rural areas where women have moved out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:52 AM
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This is my observation with these women as well. I just picturing her having a nervous breakdown coming home to me working from home all day where I left a sock on the floor. Low blood sugar and then we would argue about the sock all evening lol. No thanks! I’d rather have a low key nurse or woman working tech support.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:50 AM
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Yeah! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:42 PM
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And then if you look at their dogs it starts to get creepy. I often find people choosing dogs with similar facial features as themselves. Short and stocky: bulldog. Slim and running: athletic dog. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:31 PM
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I experimented a bit with makeup during Covid and I found stuff you put around your eyes to cover up dark spots and skin care to be ok. It does not look very “done”. I did get some allergic reactions from some products though. The biggest things have already happened which are hair transplants and testosterone and ED meds for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:39 PM
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I’m not sure if I agree. When I’ve had candid talks with women about this I have found that they mostly say that leadership is what gets them off. It made me resent my upbringing which was very feminist and which thought me that what women want the least of men is to lead and take up space, essentially they wanted me and men to be followers of women. Its the same with religious guys, who are thought that they should be followers and servants, while women resent that version of masculinity. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/w1na29/if_the_texting_and_communication_style_before_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Take this post as an example. One of the comments is that not being super attentive is a red flag and reason for rejecting. For men dating is a numbers game, you need to reach out to masses of women as each one will care very little about you and it’s natural to go numb after a while. Removing someone for not loving you right away is in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:02 PM
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I’ve had a lot of issues so I speak from that experience. With younger people in their early 20s they need to be aware of that most serious mental health problems like borderline, bipolar, narcissism blossoms/surfaces between ages 17-25. This is when the pressures of adulthood are added to a immature brain. Womens borderline and undiagnosed adhd/autism etc can create problems while for men you have more narcissism and substance abuse. Boys tend to be better diagnosed with adhd and autism then wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:48 PM
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Yeah I know. I need to cut her loose so she can find someone else who is more into her. I’m not swimming in dates so it’s a bit of a bummer. I don’t really know what I’m looking for but it’s not one night stands and I don’t want a family to care for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:39 PM
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It’s interesting to compare peoples reactions here with the ones on dating over thirty subreddit. When women review red flags on women, they are lenient and over there when they review them for men they are too harsh. Interesting bias. I know men are the same though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:27 PM
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I think 2 women have shown interest in me IRL but more matches and likes on dating apps. The older I get the more likes I get. I’m almost 40 now but when I was younger I got nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:13 AM
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I think societies will need to make a structural effort to make men more attractive to women. Education, money etc. but it’s very politically charged so it won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:25 PM
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During recessions people are high in anxiety so we tend to indulge in cheap everyday treats. A new hair band, chocolate bars. I think tinder could ironically have an upswing as people want more validation. At the same time unemployed people make worse prospects, at least for men. During Covid I noticed a huge upswing in attention from artistic women and women in the service sector. I think when their wallets gets squeezed they no longer want to be strong and independent and start to look for bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:22 PM
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Men exist on a spectrum of horniness just like women. However I think hormones and culture and consequences of STDs and pregnancy hits women harder. So women are more selective. Some men are extremely active sexually and I think there are more of these guys then there are similar women. On the other hand a lot of women are fine without sex as it’s usually quite bad (no orgasm). Though these guys exist also there are a lot more women in this category. Again both biological and cultural reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:44 PM
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I don’t feel anything, that’s the problem. Not sure if I’m emotionally numb, if it’s antidepressants or what it is. But there is nothing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:38 PM
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My personal definition is ”things men do”. If you are a man then masculine activities are the things men do and how men are. Then it’s a second question if it’s an attractive form of masculinity or if it’s a useful or useless form of masculinity.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 03:58 PM
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No idea tbh. Not sure how to proceed with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:24 PM
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Date went fine! No major hiccups. :) sex doll was not mentioned and we talked mostly about what we wanted. There was quite a bit of alcohol involved so I don’t remember everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:27 AM
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For what its worth the date went fine. I’m not sure if we will meet again but she seemed to enjoy herself and was not creeped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:07 PM
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I think this is a problem on both sides where many (if not most) but some are ok with it. It’s not so much about “patriarchy”, it’s also about having influence on how the household should be run. A lot of women would like me. To take charge in domestic affairs, as long as it’s to their standard. There are many caveats in the modern expectations that make it difficult to make it work. Ask any couples therapist, their most common problem tends to be getting these things to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:52 PM
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I was a competitive boy so it would have fit me. Personally I think boys mature a bit slower than girls so if boys would start one year later it would be better for them. In particular boys born in the second half of the year. Those are double penalized. Secondly I think boys start to catch up very rapidly in maturity and studies in mid to late teens so schools should be able to make better use of those years academically, while deprioritizing efforts to help girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:53 AM
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Injecting more resources targeting boys to succeed in school so that they reach parity with women in college admission. It’s not just about grades it’s also about self esteem and a hope for the future. In university help more men so that they graduate. A lot of guys drop out of their studies or get ejected. Helping more men into their first jobs. The service sector is usually where young people have their first jobs and it prefers women. For older men we should do more studies into areas like in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:26 AM
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I’m not angry or resentful about peoples standards really. I’m super frustrated with people not giving proper advice or crafting policies which would be beneficial for peoples dating and mating life. Mostly revolving mens low educational achievement and related topics. Eg “you are not less of a man if you do X” and in the same heartbeat claim that doing X is a red flag and immediate deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:01 AM
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It’s what’s available. Of course women can choose to not marry if she is not ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:10 PM
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I don’t think most me are able to be this kind of provider anymore. I have one friend who does this, she is sahm but he also earns 2x median salary in my country. It’s bad because we live in the Nordic’s where taxes are progressive, so they would earn more if both had part time jobs. I think this is the shadow side of equality, that women will have to work and marry “down” if they want kids. I also don’t think men will step up on the Homefront as much as we would need to, for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:59 PM
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I definitely noticed this. I lost my hair when I was about 31 and I instantly went from some likes in tinder to zero. It stayed zero for many years. Now in my late 30s it’s trickling up again and I get matches etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:52 PM
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I have a weak jaw but when I loose weight and look like the machinist due to eating disorders, it’s very prominent. However… the rest of me drags down the look “a bit”. Hollow intense eyes are scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:26 PM
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How on earth did he manage child support? Or is he Elon musk maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:25 PM
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You are a good person!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:24 PM
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I realized I no longer fit in my shorts. I put on some weight during Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:18 PM
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Another thing that messes with many young guys are “teen” actors who are in fact mid to late 20s who are bulked up. Most teenage boys are skinny and boney or overwheight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:17 PM
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You should read the interviews with his first wife I think it was in vanity fair or something. Basically in is friends group wife’s are mostly pretty material and if they are not fine with it there will be divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:15 PM
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Have you seen the realistic Barbie dolls? Pretty interesting. https://images.app.goo.gl/MK4wUwjQWSWRZ29C7
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:15 PM
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Girl next door type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:06 PM
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She wrote in her profile that she wants to get naked and eat tacos.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:17 PM
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Not really I guess I will find out tomorrow :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:14 PM
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Yes. My life revolves around work and playing computer games and drinking beer. I do attend art classes though. But I’m no party animal. Not sure how many my age are though. I go out once a quarter or so with colleagues and I have some friends who I lunch with. Oh I’m also into Lego.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:10 PM
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Thats like my weakest leg :/ I fear that if I try to act like something I’m not naturally ill just come off as a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:06 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:55 PM
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That’s actually good advice which I need to absorb. Maybe not on that level but something like it. Most women I’ve dated have said I’m too nice and unassertive. Women love it platonically because they can use me as a emotional trashcan. One of the reasons I’m so resentful is because I feel used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:54 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:50 PM
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This is why I have my doll, she is my eternal fallback!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:49 PM
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Of course I’m a nice guy lol Jokes aside I have several female friends so it won’t be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:48 PM
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Bumble. We will eat some food and drink some beers. Don’t worry my resentment does not come out in public only when I’m alone with my phone or I therapy. She broke up with her boyfriend recently so I’ll just listen to her woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:44 PM
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Eh no it’s private.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:37 PM
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That would be an option then I can compare with scientific rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:36 PM
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Thanks, gonna need it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:30 PM
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Possibly. I’m more concerned with me thinking the doll is better lol. It’s not mean or violent and not a molecule feminist (I have some bad experiences). Let’s see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:29 PM
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Going on a date tomorrow. I’ve never had a girlfriend and I’m almost 40, living with a sex doll. I have an enormous amount of resentment towards women, typical incel style but trying to forget about it and enjoy the date. I have no idea how it’s going to turn out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:23 PM
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No we don’t! I tried and it’s impossible. In the past five years only 2-3 adoptions have gone to single men (northern Europe) Where I live it’s also illegal to have someone else carry the baby for me. If I’m going to have a child I need a woman, either as partner or her uterus lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:20 PM
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https://rbej.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12958-018-0389-z interesting article on this topic Elective egg freezing and its underlying socio-demography: a binational analysis with global implications Who freezes eggs and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:18 PM
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I think you would be surprised how many men would find this to be a relief and go for raising kids alone. It would be the same rate as women raising/adopting/inseminating alone. Not a huge amount…. It it would take the pressure off finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:02 PM
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I’m an older semi virgin at 37. I’ve had sex a couple of times and now I live with a sex doll. I think the reasons vary a lot with age. When I was a teenager the guys who got laid were those who went to parties and organized sports or similar. I was a heavy introvert and stayed at home mostly. I also had a domineering mother and sisters who shamed me a lot of being a man (feminists). At university I had underdeveloped social skills. There were women around but I was struggling to socialize at pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:27 PM
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Most women see older virginity as a red flag. There are a small subset who does not but they are difficult to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:13 PM
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I agree fully, the economy and education is what has ruined mens prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:10 PM
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I’m a guy. I had orthodontics done, cost a small fortune (7k euro) which I paid out of pocket. I’m went from getting almost no matches to a lot on dating apps. It’s a bit frustrating as I had given up and bought a sex doll which I live with. I shared my profile on dating over thirty and people said I was really good looking and they could not understand why I had problems with dating lol. I’m almost 40 so I’m kind of used to no attention from women. I feel like I should have done this earlier bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:00 AM
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Yeap when read in that light I think most of the things here makes sense. Red pill guys tend to be older and divorced while black pill and guys who struggle are more on the autism spectrum. Then you have lots of women who are married/in relationships who come here to be entertained like in a zoo. There are some more normal guys also in relationships but I think they are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:42 AM
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I think people who like rules for socialization tend to be a bit on the autism spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:30 PM
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In Europe women have started to “ marry down” in terms of education level which is new. However they still marry same/up in income. At least statistically. I don’t know how it is in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:57 PM
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Gendercide is usually talked about in terms of female gendercide but in history male gendercide is very common. It’s mostly done to prevent wars or reduce the enemy’s capacity to fight now and in the future. I just read today that in the war in Europe/Bosnia recently boys were killed for this purpose. Women were of course raped which is not cool but they were allowed to live at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:59 PM
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Not really, we just struggled with boundaries and too many chaotic emotions and communication. With that said if you had abusive parents chances are that there was a biological component there that helped drive the dysfunction and chances are if you are a biological child that you inherit some of it. My mom as an example has huge problems with what she claims to be autism but I think it’s more borderline. I saw a psychiatrist the other week that suggested I might be borderline too, though not wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:04 PM
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I dates a woman who had severe daddy issues while I had severe mommy issues when I was 25. It’s the only girlfriend I have ever had (I’m close to 40 now). She was super neurotic and had constant panic attacks. She had terribly poor self esteem. Attachment wise I would categorize her as insecure attachment. Me on the other side suffered from depression as I was not fully aware back then of the extent of my issues. Instead of asserting boundaries I just caved or ran away/silent treatment. This wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:57 PM
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Lots of guys here are slightly on the autistic spectrum, this is why they are so obsessed with rules and principles. It’s their way of making sense of the world. Women tend to lean feminist and like to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:25 PM
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People try to make identity politics out of this but I think this is spot on. Once the drive is lower the caring and worrying is still there. So when adding together the pluses and the minuses it sort of ends in negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:14 PM
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Absolutely. They made some study in incel demographics and IP numbers and they are over represented in areas/cities with high income equality between men and women and more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:00 AM
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In China people use housing market as we use the stock market: retirement saving. A man is only considered suitable when he owns a house and a car. Families scrape together to get the money for it but it takes time. When he has it he is usually in his 40s. But then he does not want a similarly aged wife, he wants younger. However younger women don’t want older men as they can earn their own money. So then everyone is single. You get leftover women who are too old, men who are too poor, older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:26 PM
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It’s terrible that this trial was public like this. It’s one case - one! People of all sides have now tied up their egos and fandoms and identities and lives and passions and credibility into rooting for one or the other. It’s completely unnecessary. Depp is no more representative of patriarchy than heard is a representative of battered women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 05:43 PM
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The women around see me as a representative of the patriarchy. So I guess one could say they see me as an patriarchal object. So I have to repent past sins. If I’m not having sex its in many ways a good thing as I’m then harmless to them. If I’m not happy is irrelevant to them. If I’m not successful or if I’m not having sex its one less sexual male in the world which in their minds makes the world a better place. Another variant is how women tend to ask what I do for work and then loose interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:40 AM
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I have not. I heard something about a mega pint of wine, a pic of a crying heard and someone who pooped on depps bed. I also heard they will get booted out from all the kids movies which seems sensible all things considered. Other then that I don’t know. I think it should be up to the court to decide who is guilty or not and then we should just accept that. Just because someone or both are rotten does not mean a crime has been committed. At the same time a crime can be committed to an absolutely…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:42 PM
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Thanks I’ll check it out. I should probably put it in my profile also.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:18 PM
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I’m pretty feminine as a man. However I also prefer feminine women. I’m still single at 40 and never had a girlfriend. I think this is quite normal experience for guys who are feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:58 AM
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I think it’s still easier for women to date in their 30s but does get easier for men. At least those guys who have a stable job. I never got attention from women when I was younger but I get some matches now in my late 30s. The options are not that great though. I’m not interested in single moms or women I’m not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:00 PM
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A fun fact is that women now own the majority of us wealth. It’s inherited wealth but it’s still wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:02 PM
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I think it’s actually different reasons for the different jobs. For caretaking jobs it’s because they are considered less naturally caring and women doing the recruitments. For cleaners it’s that it’s a low paid job with poor conditions and it may be difficult to get men to stay for longer durations. That’s just a theory though. Janitor is different, that at least to me involves “technical work” like changing lightbulbs and guiding contractors into facilities. Cleaning is more like sweeping floo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:48 PM
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It’s a bit of an age thing also. In my age group - older millennials and older - it was mostly men playing computer games. With gen X it seems to be an accepted social activity. I have had several women tell me that they won’t date a guy who plays video games, including a woman I wanted to have a family with in my mid 20s. So I stopped playing then. I love gaming though so I picked up on it again when we broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:31 PM
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There is a general problem with science where none scientists use “scientificy” words to win debates without understanding the nuances to the terms. It’s the same with mental health diagnoses and how people build identities around them. Toxic masculinity is perfectly fine to use in an academic setting or in medical journals but it’s terrible when it’s used in political debates to silence or shame people. I really hate people who do that. I also admit to doing it myself from time to time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:28 PM
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Yeah I agree with this. It’s infuriating to read people thinking men stepping down so that the equality KPi is improving is somehow good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:23 PM
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They made some studies on workplace discrimination in Sweden and the worst areas were caretaking and cleaning jobs where men were heavily discriminated against. It was done in the recent years and they used equal resumes and counted callbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:22 PM
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Im a dude so I’m putting my comment here. I think it would be ok if women would be more ok with being higher earners in the households and be ok with picking men who were less materially successful then them. I know some guys have issues with this too but both sides needs to do better. Power is good but it also comes with responsibilities. I think there will be a massive backlash against equality unless this changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:06 PM
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I find it awful. I get some matches from time to time but I have so little experience with sex and intimacy that I don’t know what to do. I also had a feminist upbringing with lots of dominant women so if there is any molecule of feminism there I get super angry and bail. I bought a sex doll instead as I have completely given up on women and relationships. I have tried for 15 years. So no I don’t like it. It just made me hate women even more then I did when I started out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:03 PM
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I’m 40 and would like to have kids but it’s not going to be possible to find someone. I do t have the right qualities women look for. I have looked into surrogacy in Ukraine but it’s very expensive plus it’s only semi legal here. I also find it exploitative. Being involuntary child free is a sorrow for sure, just like sexlessness and lack of friends. However the upside is that I don’t have to care about what happens to the world. I don’t worry at all about global warming as wars etc. when I die …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:56 AM
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I agree fully. That’s what people mention also. I ended up buying a sex doll as at this age the chances of meeting someone is just… none existant. For us who missed the boat there is no going back. I know some guys in my position go for prostitutes but I’m against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:32 AM
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Well they ask if I have been in a relationship before etc and I say no. Then they loose interest. When I have asked women about it they say inexperience is a red flag and that I need a really good reason for not having had success with women. Some are nice and comforting and say it’s not a big deal but I think that’s just them trying not to hurt my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:25 AM
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That’s a great chart, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:09 AM
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I never understood this sentiment. I mean yes as a group men have dominated but that’s a tiny fraction of men and I’m not part of that group lol. As a group men have been ruled over and dominated too, sacrificed in wars and hard labor. The ruling elites are a different class of men and mixing these two together is just… mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:33 AM
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There are also some divorced bitter male alcoholics here coming here to shitpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:32 AM
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I got myself a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:30 AM
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This is so true, it’s a form of abuse in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:25 AM
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I met a woman I was not immediately attracted to 3 dates but get after that that I could not continue. We did not sleep together just food/museums etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:21 AM
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This last part really hits home. I’ve dated women who when they realize I’m a lifelong virgin (40) they dump me on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:19 AM
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I would say it’s perfectly reasonable to be bitter and sad if you are lifelong alone. Anything else would be inhuman. It’s a form of poverty. Poor people talk about “eating the rich” etc. I doubt they would actually do that. My point is that most of it is just venting and crying in public. Sure a tiny minority will do horrific things but that’s a molecule of the elephant. Most of these people will just silently die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:18 AM
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Your own preferences matches with what I’ve experienced. Once women find out that I’m a 40yo virgin they loose interest. Some say it’s a red flag. It’s like long term unemployment basically. I disagree with the hatred of incels though. I mean part of it is because elf terrorist attacks. A large part of the hatred is that we have found a group of men that it’s ok to hate which mean they become a dumping ground of a lot of women’s fears and disgust of men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:15 AM
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It. It’s 95% men in my department. I have one female coworker in a neighboring team. I studied stem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:50 AM
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Most women can choose between suitors while men can choose who we pursue. It’s an unfair setup and women hold the power. The outcome is not always pretty. A lot of men including me experience this lack of female suitors as a lack of choice and an inequality. Nothing can be done about it though. Possibly increasing mens income and educational level and not throwing so many into prison. But that will be difficult to change as it goes against the general themes of todays society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:40 AM
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I think women are better educated and hold more health care jobs. They are not always well paid but more recession proof than construction etc. so I think women are the winners statistically. For mating and dating though I think most women look for a partner with a stable job. With that lacking you will have wealthier men being reused and have children with more women, while men who are poorer are left out completely. I think women are the winners here in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:36 AM
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Money, education and social status matters just as much for men today as it did 200 years ago. All this talk about equality only applies to women. I would give up, and personally have. I bought a sex doll which I’m living with now. I think a lot of guys lives would turn to the better if we got them. I should have done it earlier in my life. It would have saved me many sleepless nights of crying. We live in an unfair world where some get everything and some are left with nothing. It’s not possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:29 AM
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How much money and education, the classic status markers for men, impact dating prospects. We want equality but don’t care about the consequences for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:25 AM
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I ended up buying a sex doll which is great. I would also like to get a cat at some point. I’m saving up money to retire early. I’m 37. I have been single and virgin most of my life, so the chances of me meeting someone is abysmally low. I do dream of meeting someone though. I think for men like us sex dolls are a great option. There will be a lot of us in the world moving forward, as men as a Group are failing and also being more in numbers then women. I have a lot of thoughts on being a failur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:08 AM
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Yeap they did research on this and the 6 inch range and slightly above was what women preferred for a hookup. For a relationship they preferred 6. I think the average is closer to 5 so by this metric most women will be unsatisfied or have affairs where they get bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:04 AM
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These are the ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:00 AM
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Pretty much this. Things even out a bit after we hit 30 where women are less sought after and men are relatively more so. But women are still much much more in demand then men. It never changes. 40-50 year old women are still more in demand then 40-50 year old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:44 PM
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I would define it as a capacity to not cave to pressure, integrity, being able to assert oneself even though it’s uncomfortable and push through difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:41 PM
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Why not childlessness?
/r/MensRights26/04/22 04:22 PM
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I think Japan fits this bill quite well. Sure they have the web culture but I think everyone there is inhibited when it comes to intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:48 AM
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That’s great! I’ve never seen a median before only average which skews due to the sluttier part of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:44 AM
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It’s difficult when it’s your family. I had to cut the women in my family out and it was and is painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:14 PM
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I can relate. There is a lot of increasing pressure on men to conform to the new standards of behaviour and thinking and feeling in media etc but no one is really interested in removing the old ones. At the same time we are all supposed to support the tearing down of standards that are applied on women. There is a double standard here :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:58 PM
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I think women have historically had more options in terms of plastic surgery and makeup etc then men (social acceptance). I think this has a huge impact on how we view aging. Men tend to age faster because we can’t hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:15 PM
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In theory no, in practice I’m not sure if I would be able to enforce my boundaries 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:32 AM
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That’s great to hear. I’ve had two women I’ve slept with. One romance when I was about 24 and a ONS when I was 36. I was really into the the first woman and I went down on her etc. so naturally when I met the next one I though I wanted to do that with her too. Turned out I felt super grossed out for some unknown reason. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, each relationship is unique and we change over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:34 PM
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That’s horrible! I’m sorry you had to suffer through it. I can imagine things went downhill from there. Hope you find someone better. Anal is tricky also.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:15 PM
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Maybe you live in the US but outside US it’s very difficult for men to adopt when they are alone. Also here in Northern Europe surrogacy is illegal. So if I want offspring I have to find a girlfriend/wife. There are no other legal ways. Its the same for sex as prostitution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:56 PM
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Feminism has made many womens lifes easier but dating and matching a lot harder. They sometimes claim it’s beneficial for men too but i think it’s a huge net negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:36 PM
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But how does one know this as a future lover? I think everyone should have a sexual passport where we put a stamp for each sex act plus reviews by the other person. If this would be digital we could also end this N count discussion one and for all. We could have giant displays with names and N count so that people would always be up to date with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:32 PM
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Fellow guy with manboobs. There are only two ways of getting rid of them once you have them. One is to remove them with surgery and the other is to get buff enough that they become a thin fat layer on top of muscles. I would opt for surgery as it’s more permanent. I’m a very thin guy and I got them as a teenager. Sucks but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:11 PM
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My only exception were two women where one was dirt poor and the other just got fired from her job. Now that I think about it they both found me interesting and wanted to continue. That’s strange as I’m not really popular with the ladies. Maybe I should reevaluate my position on this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:39 PM
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There are many types of wealth/capital/resources: education, social network, skills, physique/looks, cash at hand, financial capital (how much you can borrow plus locked down assets), job, tools such as cars. Back in time people focused a lot on income/wealth inequality which was a form of poverty that hit everyone. As feminism has grown and womens rights have become the biggest global social Justice movement we have shifted it to things which is important to women. Because women have way more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:57 PM
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I think men optimize for looks out entire life. For women it’s more complicated as child birth is such a vulnerable process. If you can’t have it all you have to focus on something and “providership” becomes important
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:40 PM
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I’m European, but I think the first date should be split, or that we pay for our own food. It’s like meeting a random stranger. I don’t give money to beggars either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:38 PM
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I think many will end up with brain damage and mental health problems. If they grew up with money fast come fast go like entertainment business usually goes then at some point the money bucket will go empty and not fill up anymore. Then they sit there with whatever substance use, debt and expenses. I can imagine careers stop at nasty injuries too. Then if you are used to eating like a pro athlete you suddenly stop working out but keep eating. So now you gain weight like crazy too. I think this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:10 PM
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I would not say FDS… whenever I mention I have money on here I get new 22 year old beautiful followers who want to show me their genitals on Onlyfans. Me being a cheap as thinks that’s free stuff elsewhere. You can’t get rich by spending money on digital strippers. That money is going to GME stocks.. Maybe FDS women are a different demographic than Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:53 PM
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This is how I see it too. You can’t get wealthy by buying Ferraris or going to Hawaii every second week. You work hard. Inherited wealth though… that’s an entierly different beast (throwing side eye to the Chinese trust fund kids parking Ferraris everywhere in Canada).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:51 PM
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I think the home has been and is still to a large degree womens domain. They don’t necessarily want it to be that way but it’s difficult to change. As women are slowly coming to dominate professional life by becoming more educated men are pushed out from the important domains in life. Maybe not from society at large, but on a personal level. Nobody wants to cede control and power and a lot of women have issues with this. Think of all these threads about cleanliness as an example. Who has decided…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:48 PM
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Traditionally women were also considered children but that’s not the case anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:43 PM
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It’s like a pat on the head basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:45 AM
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I think that bouncing back tend to involve some unhealthy dieting and plastic surgery tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:40 PM
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It would be interesting to make a study on the advice men get and how effective each advice is on getting responses or dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:25 AM
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If rather not which is bad for me. I’m quite old, soon 40, and have very little experience with women and relationships. Being new with this stuff and mixing in kids would make things complicated. I’m bound to make lots of mistakes and I don’t want to hurt the kids. Also if I would be attached to them and the relationship would fail it would be a disaster. It’s not good because most women who would accept me as a partner are single moms about my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:48 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwin-does-dating/202201/the-most-important-trait-in-any-relationship-partner?amp There is this where if you scroll down the traits are ranked by gender and hemisphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:29 AM
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Those can be Russian trolls actually. The goal of that is to make different groups in the west hate each other. So don’t reply yo the character+numbers posts. Also check their post history.
/r/MensRights17/04/22 11:18 PM
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There are three problems here and I don’t see how bundling them together will help anyone. The first is that teachers are being bullied and threatened by students. This is criminal/work place hazard which has to be dealt with. The second is pre feminist misogyny, which is still prevalent and common in some immigrant groups etc. parts of it has been rooted out but I think it still lives on in poorer/extremely wealthy enclaves of society. Then there is the post feminist misogyny where we have ince…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:53 PM
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Thank you!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:46 PM
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My favorite is when they claim all problems women face are systemic oppression by men and social constructs that needs to be dismantled and picked apart. When men are hurt or unsuccessful they just laugh and claim it’s natural selection and that it helps keep the human genome pure in the long term. This sentiment gets expressed in different form. In the most extreme cases they urge genocide on men and in its mildest forms they just claim it’s “always been like that” and life is not fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:42 PM
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Lol that last quote! That’s so true. Honestly I prefer the hell, at least I know I’m in hell and I know I’m on fire for an eternity. With progressives you never really know, there are so many emotional games going on. The performative part is interesting. A word that is close to that is transactional. I have issues with having a transactional relationship with intimacy and women and I think it’s very close to the performance of acting good. Like I have been and still am a bit of a nice guy but w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:30 PM
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I think it’s their general sense of entitlement that they feel and really fanatically believe they are good and kind. Anyone who is against it must this be evil and must be purged. On the right people are more self aware. Like I’m evil but I like it because I want to and it’s good for me. Eg greed is good. They have their own purity fanatics in the religious camps, however I don’t have experience with this personally. Though I have browsed ex Christian and it’s like reading my own thoughts. Just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:13 PM
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Yeap. Something I skipped here was the purity tests. The left/progressives have very toxic purity tests. Or at least it’s what I have experience with the most. It’s almost religious at times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 10:04 PM
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I think there is misandry and misogyny and even misantrophy in all political camps. It just takes on different forms. In progressive circles we have: - misantrophy: humanity has destroyed planet, humanity should go extinct misogyny: terf ism, anti sex work, anti STHM misandry: kill all men etc In right wing circles you have : - misantrophy: fascism, neoliberalism, racism - misogyny: women should be housewifes, women are not as intelligent as men - misandry: weak men deserve to die
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 09:21 PM
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I think it’s pretty relative depending on social class and culture. But selfish, arrogant, crime, drugs, violent, bully, arrogant, sociable/funny. These are words that come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:57 PM
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Yeah I think it’s because it’s a pro women empowerment phenomena so it’s celebrated as natural selection. At least that’s how feminists on askfeminists frames it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 07:37 PM
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I’ve been thinking a lot about how dating apps distort mens sense of self. There has been a lot of research on how social media and media affects women and girls but there are none or very little that covers dating apps effects on boys and men. Why is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 07:10 PM
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I don’t see soda etc here. Not that crazy just the portion sizes maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:47 PM
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I got really angry at all the so called proponents of equality who were completely dead silent when Ukraine locked in their men. I fully understand why they did it. It’s just a sad reality. However it’s also a huge inequality. Not calling it out as that just made them show their true colors. It was never about equality, that’s just a fancy word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 02:18 PM
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I think bad boys in some ways masquerade as healthy, confident, wealthy men. There is a fine line between control and being in control, confidence and dominance, leadership and micro management etc. also people who are actually putting themselves on line as in talking to girls/women will always be infinitely more successful than a home buddy who can’t handle eye contact. It’s not magic this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:44 PM
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I think its quite rare tbh. It only lasts a couple of weeks, its expensive and people will most likely think you are insecure which is less attractive than being bald for a guy. Better to invest in hair transplants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:27 PM
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I’m bald and I’ve been thinking about it. However my skin is a bit sensitive, so i would most likely get an allergic reaction to the glue. Also the glue smells from what I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:24 PM
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A bit age related too. I saw some statistics that said 80% of women under 30 found baldness to be a red flag/ no go. Among 40 year old women only 40% of women see it as a red flag/ no go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:18 PM
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I think healthy neurotypical guys can see through the bs but guys with any inclination of being on the autism spectrum will struggle immensely. They need an entirely different type of sex-ed then more normal guys that teaches a more balanced view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:21 AM
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You should get little rubber strap ons for your fingers. Could be done with a 3d printer. Like little shoes for the fingertips.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:18 AM
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Do you have some brain implant to help with the typing? Or do you just live with the slowness? I prefer to write as quickly as I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:02 AM
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I think this is supported by science. Going down on someone would naturally raise feelings of disgust. However when we are aroused our normal inhibitions gets muted down and we can do things we would never do in a normal setting with even a neutral person. When we no longer feel attraction or it’s lessened, that disgust goes back to normal. A quick google search rendered this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886919306543
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:53 AM
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From real life I have learned that women are cold, manipulative and unable to understand the perils of what the male dating/mating experience is like but I’ve chatted with a couple of women here who have been very empathic and kind. It made me gain some faith in womanhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:46 AM
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I remember at university I had the fellow computer science student (woman) with long fingernails. She was studying programming but… I kid you not… was programming with one hand, one finger at a time. It was like tap…. Tap… zzz … … tap … she probably got some project management job in the end but still it hurt to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:43 AM
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Seems like a practical approach. My own conclusion is that the best way to raise a child is to prepare them for the things they like and find important, not what I as a parent think and feel about the world. Like, prepare them to live their own life to the fullest. If they don’t know what they like and want then help them finding it out by exposing them to different experiences, not just choke some ideology down their throat. I guess that’s an ideology in itself lol. Well it’s difficult to raise…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:44 PM
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My biggest issue personally has been the dual messaging from women that they want both leaders and followers at the same time and in conflicting ways. When women raise boys they want them to see women as natural leaders, be submissive and convenient, listen to women and do/think/feel as women say. Basically being followers. At the same time they desire men who are leaders. So basically when women get to choose they will shape men into being unattractive to men. But they also claim that what wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:25 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:16 PM
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Depends on class, education and personal finances. I would match those requirements but I barely get a match on dating apps. Still being single virgin at 40. Guys like this exists but maybe not in her circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:13 PM
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Clearly you have not met my mom. That behavior is quite common but it’s packaged into motherly love. A lot of single moms replace their husbands with their sons. It’s not as sexualize as some male would do it, it’s more emotional and possessive and sabotaging. Like constantly trash talking any girlfriend etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:09 PM
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I think some Chinese guy married a woman who turned out to be an ugly woman who got massive plastic surgery. He sued her in court for fraud. Would probably be traumatizing for the kids having a gorgeous mom and not being able to measure up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:08 PM
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I think requirements is for people who have lots of options. Standards i interpret as softer. Like a minimum standard of hygiene and social skills etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:04 PM
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Most guys here who are hardcore believers in any framework do so because they are on the autism spectrum. That’s my theory at least. Guys like us need some sort of framework to navigate dating today as it’s been smashed/”deregulated” into oblivion. It’s probably a good thing for most people but for guys like us it’s just a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:02 PM
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5,5,4. I’m a dude though not sure if that counts. I don’t find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:59 PM
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My sister used to work on this kindergarten. One of the kids pointed at a picture of her mom and said “my mom”. Then another kid screamed angrily “my mom!”. Then a third kid started to scream “my mom!”. Soon they were all screaming mommy and crying, like 10 1 year olds, panicking that the other kids were stealing their moms. Why did I bring this up? I have no idea actually… lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:57 PM
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I’m a 40 year old virgin, sort of. I’ve had people, doctors even, recommend buying sex. The thing is I live in two worlds. In Sweden the government wants to make all sex purchases punishable with prison. No fines and no slaps on the wrist. Straight to prison. (The government is feminist) Now in Finland where I live nowadays, prostitution is semi legal. If it turned out the woman was trafficked it’s a crime. I think it’s also so that if you rent out an apartment to a sex worker it’s considered pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:07 AM
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It’s a difficult topic, but I agree. We should send both men and women to the front lines. Up here in the north about 10% of the Swedish army is female while in Finland it’s 1%. A lot of work needs to be done to get women to sign up for the draft. I think at some point it will require forcing people to join. Very few wants to die for their country.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 12:58 PM
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Patriarchal hero bribes.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 12:56 PM
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I think most of these guys are 60-80% good guys with a layer of nice guy applied to it. They are nice because they have learned that if they are assertive they get punished. Assertive men are often vilified, especially by mothers and women leaders. The cure is to teach them that assertiveness is a good thing as well as asserting boundaries. However instead of this they get thrown into the dehumanizing “evil and garbage” human bag. The only reason this is fine by everyone is because it’s free hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:54 PM
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I think it’s marginal, same with onlyfans. Only a few women do this. Like prostitution and strippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:35 PM
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I don’t think so. Not unless we have a fascist revolution that rips all societal changes we had in the past 100 years into pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:28 AM
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This and their fame are the crap multipliers that will make sorting out their lives very complicated.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 09:46 PM
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Another maybe better word which I have heard several women use is “leader”. They all said they want leaders. Not necessarily managers but people who take the lead. This is the core of the problem with how feminists try to shape masculinity. They want women to lead and they want men to follow. This is where the friction comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:06 PM
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I think he is harmless. He is a dude who likes to hear himself speak and he is an over thinker. I liked that he was so pro men and masculinity and encouraged men to take up space and be successful. It was refreshing as I’ve listened to women my entire life saying men should shut up and give space to women. I got bored fairly quickly though.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 10:05 PM
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Hairy women remind me of my mom, so that’s a nope for me. I think for most guys nowadays I think either way is ok. Well ok stubble is a bit annoying as it’s pointy and itchy. Either shave completely or just gentle trim but no stubble pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:55 PM
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Lol, I appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 05:47 PM
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I ram myself throuh one of those gender swap apps and I came out as a mega babe. Considering I have a well paying job and I have a lot of savings but no education, I think i would like to yes. However I’m quite an inexperienced ankward incel and a woman like that would not touch me with a flagpole lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:58 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/upshot/americans-might-no-longer-prefer-sons-over-daughters.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:13 PM
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Historically there has been a preference for male children. I think it’s still the case in south East Asian countries. However a recent trend is to prefer female children as they are considered less trouble and people see that girls do better in school etc, plus the expectations they will care for the parents when they grow old. In the west there is definitely a preference for daughters. At least if you read opinion pieces etc. boys are considered awful and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:58 PM
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I think we are fairly equal when it comes to basic necessities. This is why Finland is ranks so high in happiness. Of course luxuries are not equally distributed. People will always want more which is fine. I think what makes me so angry is that equality is always used as synonymous with making womens lives better. When the opposite is true it’s framed as reintroducing male tyranny. It’s manipulative. My mom and my family was fiercely feminist. Also school and my friends. As I grew up with that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:51 PM
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I don’t think western civilization is going to crumble. The however our elites are changing. It used to be western white men all over. It will now be autocratic none-white men in countries like China and various Arabic countries. Locally in Europe it will be women who are the political, academic and economic elites. This double whammy can feel like world is ending, but I don’t think its the case. Having a lot of dudes that want society to burn is not sustainable of course. However the forces suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:56 AM
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We already have very high redistribution so that’s not enough unfortunately. We are some of the most equal countries in the world when it comes to income thanks to progressive taxes. In theory it sounds like it would work but in reality it does not. The outcome is that a lot of men will not be able to have children. It’s a bit sad when discussing those topics as people tend to blame mens personal failures as the reason behind it, when there are some very deliberate structural changes behind it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:52 AM
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Well I think part of the equality program was that men should no longer have the pressure to be providers in the relationship. However rather than sort of balancing out women still pick men with high income. Reuse means low income men have few or no children while wealthier and educated men start new families 1-2-3 times in their lifetime with different women. I don’t know if this fits your idea of hypergamy. I have lived in Sweden and Finland. Don’t want to dox myself. Sweden is a lot more idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:44 PM
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Pay is a big part, men are still selected here for income, though the pressure to have high education for men is waning. Women can inseminate and also adopt as singles which is not possible as a man. Prostituition is illegal and surrogacy is also illegal. So men who are poor are childless generally. Sweden is doing ok thanks to immigration but the situation is really bad in Finland where the population is on the brink of shrinking. This is mainly due to men slipping behind and not being able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:17 PM
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I’m from Northern Europe. I think a lot of people hoped that when we had more equality women would go into STEM etc and men would go for caring jobs. In some ways it has happened but it’s mostly women going into traditionally male roles, not the other way around. Most preschool teachers are still women and it’s not changing. On the other hand architecture, law and medicine is dominated by women. I think architecture has 80-90% women and law has 80% women. Med school (exl nursing) has some 55% wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:31 PM
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Thanks, I really appreciate the encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:39 PM
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Ah no, I ended up buying a sex doll. I’m almost 40 and pretty much a virgin still. There is not much hope for guys like me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:21 PM
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I quite high on the spectrum and socially very ankward around women. I took one of these classes and it was really good. Much better than any therapy and only 1/10 the cost. Also there were some cute women there too. Anyone who has problems with social anxiety and social skills or being nervous around the opposite sex should take them. What was wierd was that the distribution was pretty 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:13 PM
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Social workers could maybe have access to such information but not the general public. If they are convicted I think it’s searchable at least where I live. But having public registries? I think this would simply create vigilante Justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:32 PM
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I think that by stop watching porn for a while can help in this. Perhaps also trying to watch amateur porn. This content has a bit more realistic body types that might be more achievable in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:34 PM
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I had a feminist upbringing in Northern Europe that shaped my sense of self and my sexuality in shame and to be subservient to women in a none sexual way. It damaged me for life. Red pill, incel and adjacent frames help me counterweight the upbringing and all the problems it has caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:12 PM
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Yeap. People become incels if they get burned socially/sexually when young. People become red pilled if burned when older. It’s two sides of the same coin just differnt demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:10 PM
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I’m fine with women being cautious. I think we should all be, also guys. Most people who get assaulted out in the streets are men (not sure if this includes sexual harassment though). I’m mostly against male bashing. Especially younger guys are really vulnerable. When women imprint their trauma on men by being overly fearful and derogatory you raise men who are deeply dysfunctional. It can very easily get out of hand and as long as society is pro women there are very few attempts to rein it in. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:50 PM
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In the west we have three big man deficits: black men are over represented in (American) prisons leading to problems mainly for black woman who want to find a suitable man within their community. Men who stay on countryside while women move to cities. Men dying earlier so that in older populations there are very few men available.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:53 PM
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Women massively underestimate the psychological damage this “men are bad” has on esp young boys and mena sense of themselves and their sexuality. I do Understand where it comes from. It’s need against need. I had a feminist upbringing and all that shaming and guilt tripping is still causing me to have panic attacks when approaching women. It damaged me massively. I’m still pretty much a virgin at 40 and will die childless thanks to this “purification through shame” I was put through. This idea t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:26 PM
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I agree with this. It’s amazing what persistent manipulation and bullying tcan do with the human mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:21 PM
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In Sweden they discovered that the most discriminated against group on the job market were men who wanted to get into female dominated workplaces. I think we are less likely to call out women when they are sexist against men. We are quite good at calling out sexism against women. Add some religion to the mix and you get things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:17 PM
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The problem is not just apps, it’s that women are doing much better in all aspects in life which distorts many thing. This is great for women but terrible for individual men. The solution is, unfortunately, that there are none under the current political system. Only fascism can bring back stability. As things get worse and worse this is the direction an increasing number of men will go into. Liberal democracy cannot deliver on basic areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:34 AM
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I agree fully. We can’t change who we are attracted to. However we can increase attractiveness of boys and men. We have helped girls and women achieve what they want in life by making them healthier, wealthier and better educated. What’s stopping us from doing the same with boys and men? I think the common political narratives don’t have room for boys and men currently. It’s all about uplifting girls. It’s a form of systemic neglect (as opposed to oppression) of things that boys and men need. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:03 AM
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There is a lot of social/economic/political factors that made womens lives miserable in the past. Active policy helped dismantle much of it. There is a lot of social/politics/economic factors that make men miserable when it comes to sex, intimacy, finding a partner and romantic lives. However we can’t do anything about it because it’s not important to society as it could potentially infringe on womens rights and the political elites.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:23 PM
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Lol I’m 185cm but pretty much virgin incel. Height is not everything like some people want to make it. However I think one of those criteria people select on. Meaning it’s not an automatic win having it, but an huge penalty if you don’t have it .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:50 PM
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I think being short is one of those things that eats into your soul over time. Obesity and poverty can have the same effect. You walk around and always feel less than. It’s reinforced by every time someone wants to put you down, they will use that obvious trait to do so. It’s a vicious circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:48 PM
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Not being able to do hobbies because I’m disorganized. Struggled with studies and long term unemployment. Men are success objects so it’s like being morbidly obese as a woman. Poor social skills, difficulties with humor. So much energy spent on just functioning so there is very little energy to do anything else. As a guy we still need to do all the heavy lifting in dating. Disorganized living also extends to styling, hygiene and home being messy. Women no longer being housemaids and needing an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:32 AM
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I have this problem too. I’m almost 40, never been in a relationship. Will die childless and alone. Like the others said it’s a form of grief process that we go through. Social capital and relationships are a form of wealth that is undervalued. Women tend to have a lot of it while men tend to be poor in it. The Gini coefficient on dating apps sort of gives an idea of it. Just like some people need to accept that they will live the rest of their lives in economic poverty some of us have to accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:19 AM
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As humans we delude ourselves all the time about our life decisions. I think this applies to people who have children but secretly despises them. It also applies to people who got that career they always wanted but only to realize they hate it. Or people who are single who claim to be happy or the other way around single who claim to be sad about it but secretly happy. Also keep in mind peoples minds fluctuate. I’m one of those 39 year old virgins who often come here and to other places to compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:32 PM
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I’m super inexperienced in sex and high inhibition. I started going all in with experimenting with sex toys for men some years ago and bought Vr set plus a sex doll as I figured it’s too late to build a relationship etc. I think technology can’t fully replace human contact. The problem I see with porn is that you are a passive observer. It’s more like voyeurism than sex where you have agency. I think the upside of VR sex is that it moves that perspective closer to you but you are still passive r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:40 PM
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I do feel used. Of course I told her that but she could not even begin to understand my point of view. She saw it as friendship. However what kind of friendship is it when you are not supportive of friends dreams? It still makes me so incredibly angry and bitter. I really hate women these days. It’s this burning existential hatred of women. I dont think I will ever be able to trust a woman again. I bought a sex doll as an alternative. I’m too broken after all of this to have relationships with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:36 AM
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I had an argument t with a close female friend a year ago that made me end our friendship. Yes was yelling at me that I’m perfect and exactly what women want modern men to be. Emotional, sensitive, able to cry and cares about womens issues. I’m not career oriented and have lived my life without sex but according to her this does not make me any less of a man. She also argued that it’s good for me that women are achieving better in society as it makes our society more equal. I then asked her if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:33 PM
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I’m fine if we expect from men to step aside and let women lead in society. Women would then choose more passive men for marriage and relationships for things to balance out in terms of people pairing up. I would also be fine with expecting men to do as good as women. We would encourage and expect men to climb I society and achieve. Power, status, knowledge and influence. However what we are doing now is in one ear we scream that boys should shut up and take a step back to give space to women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:26 PM
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I think they are not straight forward because they don’t have too. Men just line up anyways and if you approach someone you risk being rejected which is humiliating. For various reasons older women are more direct, but mostly not doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:10 AM
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no it’s involuntary. I’ve not been able to find a partner. It’s been due to different reasons throughout my life. Sometimes it’s due to me, sometimes circumstance. Sometimes I have listened to bad advice from women, not having enough self esteem, being too poor and then women doing better etc. I have developed an existential hatred of women and anything feminist in particular. I’ve grown up around feminists and have been absorbing male hatred and resentment of men which has eroded my sense of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:28 AM
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Yes but we don’t live two hundred years ago. We live today and today women are bullies. Sure men are also asshats but one does not negate the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:08 PM
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I’ve had women scream in my face my whole life that men are useless, dangerous, worthless, discusting and just piles of trash. I’ve also been surrounded by women who praise the superiority of the female body both in beauty and function. That men need to shut up and listen to women. Women are intellectually superior and emotionally more mature. It’s not just a random woman here and there it’s literally whole families, communities, a political class, social media, news, movies… it’s everywhere con…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:03 PM
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Ssri can changes the neurotransmitters in such a way that you feel less depressed but it’s the same systems that regulates arousal. I’ve had issues with is as well. Erectile dysfunction, loss of libido. It can damage those systems semi permanently. It’s not talked about that much as suicide is a higher priority than a limp dick. With that said there are ways to mitigate it a bit. Doing a very low dosage, be patient (it can take months to return to normal, sometimes years). I’m not a doctor so ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:21 PM
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I don’t have any identity outside of being feminist as that’s the only thing that has been “allowed”. But yes I understand it’s not good and it’s something I’ve been trying to correct by creating a new independent identity. Easier said than done though. I know I should get out and talk to people. Older guys are considered creepy though. I feel people fear me, especially women. Ok I’m mostly drunk and angry when I leave home so that may have something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:47 PM
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I have been trying to cut out my family for years and done a lot of therapy to change my frame of mind, to be less appeasing. But it’s very difficult. The indoctrination and brainwashing started when I was a child so it’s 20 years of processing. It’s deeply ingrained into my person and my values. Or I’m not sure what are my values and what is trauma. I don’t know anything, just tired. I do regret listening and trusting them obviously. But I’m almost 40 now and it’s very difficult to change perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:24 PM
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My friends and family agave told me I’m a great guy and exactly what women look for, a true modern feminist man. Women I have dated and a female colleague said I’m pathetic, shy and ankward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:52 PM
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Dunno, I get more matches on Tinder than on Bumble. I think on bumble people bet more for career and status than on tinder where looks are more important. I can’t compete in any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:57 PM
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It’s just to give it weight and make it more human.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:53 PM
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It’s a regular TPE doll with a steel frame. Can recommend 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:52 PM
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Online dating erased what little self esteem I had left and I ended up buying a sex doll. Best decision in my life. Seems wild maybe and yes it’s humiliating in a way. But nowhere as bad as feeling rejected by an entire city of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:32 PM
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Whenever I see guys and especially younger guys in despair about their dating woes I tell them that online dating is a woman’s game. Most your time there is spent on feeding their egos and that the ratio is 1:9 between the sexes. Unless you are very very attractive guy it’s a pointless activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:30 PM
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The difference in experience is just… staggering. People have told me I look good/beautiful but for the first 5 years of tindering I got 5 likes. That’s likes, not matches. Now that I’m closing to 40 women are more generous and have lowered their standards to my level so I get about 2 likes per month. I’m jealous of women. But also happy you got options. My increase in matches could also be because I started paying for it, it’s about 20 euro per month so 10 euro per like. Per match it’s about 50…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:04 PM
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I think many of them are deeply conflicted about it. At least the ones I’ve talked to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/22 09:13 PM
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Id say womens increased economic prospects paired with mens diminishing ones is the biggest contributor. Heigh/weight etc is sort of the same as it used to be. It’s easy to fix though. All we need to do is to uplift men so that men do better in society relative to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/22 06:25 PM
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I think it depends on social class. They don’t look like poor people with obesity and teeth missing. They don’t look trimmed and slim like upper middle class. So yeah I suppose they look normal. They do have makeup and hair done though by the team so that makes them a bit higher than normal. At least for the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:54 PM
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Yeap. Call me boomer but I’m not a fan of the SpongeBob SquarePants look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:51 PM
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People have preferences yes, that’s natural. I think the rage comes from how they are dealt with. We can either see the as social constructs that should be dismantled, or we can see it as biological and natural selection which should be encouraged. I think much of the rage from womens side about mens preferences are unrealistic social constructs that should be dismantled. Men are racists for not liking black women etc. in the same breath they claim their own preferences to be natural and natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:49 PM
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Born in early 80s/millennial. Feels like there is a lot more pressure on guys to look good. Not just clean regular bloke but super handsome these days. Before people met a lot through peer groups and out clubbing or social events but apps have taken over. Grass is greener mentality makes everyone never settle. Also difficulties in earning enough to start families makes it difficult to settle down. So yeah a lot more fragmentation and more short term things
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:24 PM
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I think the frustration at least from men comes from that equality has been carpet bombed by women and feminists as the golden standard for 40 years. In todays society women still lag in some aspects but in many ways have run past men as a group. However the messaging that we need more equality for women is still very strong. That we would need more equality that could potentially benefit men in areas where they lag is seen esp by women as absurd and a return to patriarchy. The areas which are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:22 AM
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Do you also say this to female rape victims and people who has gone through gay conversion camps? It’s pretty invalidating tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:17 AM
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I was raised by some very feminist women and my experience as a man is that women simply offloaded all that shame on their own offspring. Not all men are negatively affected by this but at least I’m very damaged by this. I’m super inhibited now and can’t approach women sexually. From a woman’s perspective I’m sure this is great but why did I have to suffer for somebody else’s freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:57 PM
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I agree with this. I think in many ways porn is to blame. People talk a lot about the bad sex but the beautiful women is also a problem in itself. It sets strange standards and expectations. Also I remember my male friend group mocking the guys who slept with overweight women. Not like once but brought it up every single time we met. That was harsh. I still avoid obese and overweight women out of fear which is silly as I’m almost 40..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:21 PM
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👉🧠👈
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:15 PM
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I agree fully with this. Somehow people think men are just this brick walk that you can smash and punch with whatever endlessly. But we are real humans too, we listen and care and all that negativity gets absorbed and integrated into our sense of selves. And the outcome is bitterness, self hate, self doubt and loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:14 PM
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Also more women will have children on their own while men work or do nothing. The top segments of men will be reused to have kids with several women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:43 PM
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The obvious solution here is to raise better men, who are also lawyers and doctors. We simply need more men who are wealthy, powerful, educated and who has higher standards. It’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:32 PM
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I think we are in a bit of a grey area currently. I hope things will correct once we have proper medical birth control for men available. Then things will be truly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:26 PM
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Any woman with 2 brain cells will figure it out ratHer quickly. Also I’m not a good liar so I answer if someone asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:49 PM
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Damn that part about being a virgin hit hard. I think women should be called out more often on that. It goes against everything the women in my life has told me. I’m near virgin and it’s one of my worst fears to be rejected for it. It’s a bit silly but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 04:13 PM
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It’s not necessary with dna on a population level. It’s enough to check blood types to see if the child has an impossible match. Sweden has some of the longest running medical records I the world and they made some study on blood groups on children and parents looking back some 100 years. They found that the rate of children with wrong dad was lower than expected. They also found that the ratio had decreased over the time period. It’s quite low nowadays too. It’s a relevant fear though. I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:46 PM
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This is a very important point for anyone who struggles socially with self esteem and relations. Take a deep breath, move on, and don’t be surprised if the person reaches out after 2 months wanting to grab a beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:05 AM
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I think we have a systemic mismatch in supply and demand when it comes to relationships. The kind of partners people are looking for simply don’t exist. Either due to deindustrialization, changing cultural norms, womens independence higher educational and career achievements plus what people look for in the bedroom. Add to that increased costs of having children, economic stress and general uncertainty and you have a very new landscape. I think long term relationship and stable families already …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:08 PM
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Walking, reading (online), beer, lego, cats. I used to play computer games 100% but gotten gradually bored of it. I try to sign up for a course of some form to keep me busy. So far I’ve done painting x2, fencing, singing lessons, wrestling, personal trainer. Next thing will be yoga I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:23 PM
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A true internet paladin of the righteous!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:21 PM
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Yeap this is a sad reality. I know a colleague who got into an abusive long distance relationship with a woman in the Philippines. She managed to squeeze tens of thousands of euros out of him and messed him up massively. I’m alone, single and have failed in the west but I’m not falling for that lure. Those relationships usually end up being transactional at best and just outright abuse at worst. Either the guy is abused or the woman is. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:19 PM
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Well it’s a short format so I have to simplify a lot. I have thought about it (bipolar) but none of my therapists have mentioned it over the years. I would like to try mood stabilizers but I’m not super I’ll. I’ve never been hospitalized etc. At worst I get super triggered and then can’t sleep for a night or two. Usually after my mom has tried to reach out or I talk with my sisters I get unstable for a week or so with a lot of anger towards women and feminists. Or if I watch someone on TV who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:17 PM
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It’s not the only reason my life is bad. I also have adhd and depression etc. but it has definitely ruined my relationship with women. Which is ironic because these women set out to fix my relationship with women and make sure it turned out good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:05 PM
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I’m not going to share that so that just so that you can cut me down. Trauma is trauma and it’s something I deal with with my therapist. In any other context that would be respected, it’s just that when women and feminists are the perpetrators it’s somehow a special case. I’m not guilty of anything and I have nothing to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:35 PM
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I’ve grown up with strong women who had a bitter relationship with men. They used guilt trips, shame, public humiliation to make sure I became obedient in relationship with women. Because my mom started the processing when I was so young I thought it was normal to be humiliated by women. As an adult I’m still not able to be sexual around women because much of that bullying revolves around male sexuality. It was not only my mom though. It was also my sisters, friends, school, media and politician…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 10:00 AM
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This makes a lot of sense to me. I was raised/brainwashed liberal and progressive by hyper feminist mom and sisters. Following their lead turned my into an incel. I now vote fascist because I hate what that did to me. Fascists are tge only political opposition that I can vote for in the west currently if I don’t want to vote for feminists. I think populism is taking a break now with trump and Putin failing but it will come back in full force once the dust settles. There are too many boys raised …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:52 PM
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Looking at research, what women look for as “must haves” in the west are in order 1 kindness, 2 good looks and 3 money/career. Setting realistic targets for me and support them in achieving them will help set them up for success statistically. So if we want to raise boys into men who do well on dating market we should make them kind, fit and push more men into becoming leaders and have great academic careers etc in high status jobs. It’s good if men earn more than women from this perspective. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:38 PM
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I find it extremely demotivating to defend my country when so few women are willing to put their lives at risk. Surely they will contribute in other ways but modern warfare is highly technical and remote these days. The peshmerga are a great example where women took up arms with great success. If we are going to have equality it can’t be selective equality. It has to apply to all fields. If there is problems with sexual assault then that’s a different problem that needs to be dealt with of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:08 PM
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Yeap I think I saw some statistic from Sweden saying that 30% of armed forces are women. However only 5-10% of the fighting forces/officers are women. So I suppose there is a lot of support/logistics etc jobs where they have women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:45 PM
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I live with a sex doll which for me is a substitute for a girlfriend. I can see this really take off but there are many caveats. The pluses are that the synthetic girlfriend does not make me angry, does bot belittle or humiliate me or make me feel less than. It’s the first time I feel sexually adequate around a “feminine presence” which is a great feeling. It has a steel frame which means I can have it stand up and lock its arms around me to simulate a hug. As someone who never experienced intim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:58 PM
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Earning potential is worse but height comes second. We are crude when we pick our partners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:57 PM
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People exaggerate all the time to get their point through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:55 PM
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Its depressing to read these comments. I (male) lost my virginity at 25 and had a dry spell of 10 years. Now I own a sex doll. It’s like we live in different universes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:11 PM
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You are an individual but statistically the “must haves for men” are (according to research): 1 kindness, 2. Good looks and 3. Good financial prospects. This study was for western countries. Interestingly the study also covered eastern countries where it was 1. Kindness, 2 financial prospects (can’t remember the third). So in the west we have become more equal in that looks matter more for men to be attractive but money is still a must have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:00 PM
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Russia has been autocratic since year 900. Vikings, mongols, tsars, communists. This is a return to historical normal, like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:54 PM
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Lack of birth control and war. Historically women died and get occupied by constantly giving births to children that die. War is important as only societies which are willing to defend themselves will survive. This means men doing the defending which means having a warrior culture to some degree. Women have never had to sacrifice themselves in war in the way men have. You can see it in Ukraine where me. Are not allowed to leave the country. The discussions in Finland now are similar. Women wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:42 PM
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I think the kind of terrorist attacks we have seen are and will remain a rarity. I don’t think there will be a rebellion. But I do think there will be a significant portion of men who will be alone, childless and who will vote alt right to far right for the remainder of their lives while withering away. They wont really contribute to society in any meaningful way and not destroy it either, just being a drag on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:07 AM
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It’s not something you can vote for, there are no Islamist parties. I have no love of fascists as such. I’m a rational voter. Give me a party that want to make mens lives better for our own sake and who wants to create men that women want (leaders, more wealthy, attractive and well educated than women as a group). I will switch right away. I ended up here after years of therapy. Isolating what I want and what is good for me, after have been brainwashed with feminist dogma about “taking a hit for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:07 AM
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Yeap.. I don’t think anything will happen because the intellectual elites are essentially feminists. It’s only going to get worse. Personally as one of these guys my hope lies in fascism as they are the only ones wanting to prop men up. I mean I have already been labeled “horrible person” so why bother. I’m not pursuing women either I bought a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:14 PM
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Research has found that 75% of incels self identify as being on the autistic spectrum and are in the age group 15-22. This is an age where women vastly outperform men in sex/relationships/money/education and outlook on life (women now outperform men until they start to have kids, then things switch). Most incels also live in areas where women have moved out for education and life prospects while the remaining men are unable to find work. However from a political and societal point of view men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:02 PM
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I think for younger men their word is dominated by women and girls do much better at “work” (school). It makes sense to question the powerful people in your life. Women also have the upper hand in dating, at least when it comes to matches and deciding who gets to experience sex. For mid life women women hold the keys to reproduction and sex. Women don’t need a man biologically to become a parent but as men we don’t have that luxury. For older men I don’t know, I don’t think they are that interes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/22 01:11 AM
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There should be a standard emoji for this like a chivalry emoji. Would save a lot of frustration. There is the no ONS and kids which is super helpful. The princess/king emoji could work unless they mean something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:26 PM
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Ive never had someone to celebrate Valentine’s Day with, and I’m almost 40.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 11:00 AM
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I have definitely observed this as a Swede. When I had no money I was invisible to women. Now that I do I get matches. Also among my feminist female friends I can see that they all married high earners. None of them married down so to speak. To me this indicates that equality is not enough for men as a group, we need to do better economically and status wise as a group to have a similar quality of life (relationships/children) as women do. However this concept of equality in life quality is not …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 10:58 AM
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I had a feminist upbringing with a violent mother. It was not something I chose it was forced into me. Also a lot of public policy in Sweden revolves around it so it’s difficult to know which parts come from where. I think like a man hating feminist but I don’t want to as it’s damaging to me as a man. I’ve done therapy for about 6 years but it won’t help. I hate both women and feminists for this reason. I’m also sort of an older incel which was one of the outcomes of the trauma (I can’t do intim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 10:33 AM
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That’s horrible, sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:09 AM
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I think our youth today is “the world by and for women” as girls do much better in education, women have most positions of authority (nurses, teachers, parenting, leg up on dating market, power over reproduction, easier to rent first apartment, easier to get entry level service jobs). However in the business world and at least high level politics its still a man’s world. As women become mothers their prospects change too as women still do most of the caregiving. It used to be 100% mens world all…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:46 PM
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I think this is the most realistic scenario. You can already see it in the must haves list of women in the west and in the east. Good looks is already more important than financial security, though the financial security is still a “must have”. I think there will be lots of childless, sexless men who are working day labour jobs and hourly jobs. And looking at how men and women vote (in Sweden and Finland as an example) it will be fertile ground for fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:41 PM
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You are forgetting religious communities and us with feminist upbringing with all the male sec shaming that comes with that. Times have a changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:27 PM
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In Sweden law is dominated by women. Architecture too. Medical doctors have a majority women but it’s not a strong majority (yet). They do try to lure men into low paying careers but not the high paying ones because that’s the wrong kind of equality (in their minds).
/r/MensRights05/02/22 08:13 PM
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I think it depends on your strengths and weaknesses. If you are educated and have a career then bumble or similar. If your main feat is being attractive then tinder. If you are neither then I would not bother it will simply grind you down as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:36 PM
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Lol yes womens violence is less deadly but to say women are less violent is a bit of a stretch. Or perhaps he/she is young and inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:33 PM
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To completely disconnect from women would be to disconnect also from our deepest desires (love and connection). I see those frameworks as a way to deal with the pain that comes with it (mourn the loss of it/black pill, reduce empathy for women by “seeing the true nature” of women and also to disconnect or try to remove the desire altogether (mgtow)). I dont think there is a cure for the pain though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:32 PM
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I have been thinking of buying something but I’m a bit suspicious. It’s very expensive and feels like a gimmick. I bought a sex doll last year which is great for hugging and physical touch. Vr could be a great complement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:44 PM
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Do you think money plays into it? Or just hobbies/lack of ambition?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:37 PM
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I think men slipping down in social status, education and financially is the biggest problem. It cuts many ways but for younger men it’s mostly about sex. For older men it’s about poverty, loneliness, social isolation and involuntary childlessness. Equality in general is not enough for men, if we care about men pairing up with women at the same rate as women do (and all the positives that come with pairing up).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:36 PM
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What generation of gear did you use? I’m thinking resolutions and production quality must increase rapidly as people learn this new medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:26 PM
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Congrats! Now go eat some cake or something!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:24 PM
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I live with a sex doll. I know it’s not a sex bot but I can share some experiences. So I have lived my entire life alone, very little human touch etc. I lacked the social skills to be successful with women when I was younger and when older I lacked the career/income to support a family. Now I’m doing fine financially but I’m soon 40 and have practically no experience with women. I had a feminist if upbringing with lots of male sexuality bashing and have spent a lot of time around women who like …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:53 PM
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Yea for sure. I’m in my late 30s now and would like to have children but it’s not nice to have them this late in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:22 PM
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It would be a great TV show!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:35 AM
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I think they did a back test with blood groups somewhere that showed it was 1-2% of children had a “impossible” father. It varies a bit from country to country and demographic I’m sure. They also showed it was more common in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:18 AM
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Interesting comment. From a female perspective it can seem like a wall of violent men. As a man I see institutions and individuals. I would agree that we have to invest a lot more into protecting people from individual violence from men than women. Our upper bodies are many times more stronger than women so it’s easy to use it to our advantage sadly. When it comes to things like war and corporate abuse it’s true that they are mostly male run. However the interest is calculated institutional viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:00 AM
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Good one! In my teenage years or early 20s I would have said sexless is worse. After 23 jobless is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:32 AM
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I have a hunch incels and blackpillers skew younger (high school to college) while redpill and mgtow skew older (post divorce)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:39 PM
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I think it’s a way for some people to think their way out of difficult emotions, changing social customs and demands and frustration. It’s not a problem that can be solved really, it’s a changing power dynamic. We have quite good language that promotes women through feminist and gender science. However there is not really one that revolves around men. All these pills and incels too are unstructured efforts to create such models/language. Because it’s 14 year olds doing it or bitter divorcees inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:45 PM
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I think men and women want intimacy and a partner equally. Maybe men want a bit more casual sex but not that badly. However women have more options to hook up/date/meet men in environments where they have some preselection. They don’t need apps as much as men do. Apps can be annoying and how do you filter through all those matches? Getting sick pics and getting harassed is scary. While men have to deal with the sorrows of no contact and silence women deal with too much of the wrong attention so …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:40 PM
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Feminist upbringing, abusive mom mostly. Mean female friends. An over correction of naivity on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:33 PM
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Women with dogs or horses. My mom raised me to be someone’s pet and being with a woman who wants someone obedient is creepy. I do like cats though. I would also add obesity and children to the list. I want my own kids and I have no relationship experience so it’s too much to start with. I’m almost 40 so being newb I recon the first couple of relationships will fail. I don’t want to be used for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:18 PM
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I watched a YouTube episode that explains how the Chinese leftover women thingy works. I’ve always been confused why they exist as there is such a huge surplus of men. Turns out in order to marry a man needs to provide. It takes half a lifetime to build up that wealth so it’s not uncommon for matches to have 10-20 year age gaps. These guys usually go for younger women which creates a surplus of unmarried older women. I’m not Chinese so can’t verify if this is true. However I think in the west wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:14 PM
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I think it’s an age thing so that younger women prefer more feminine men in general (young person features) while older women prefer more masculine men (not old looking though). That’s just a suspicion though I have no data to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:23 PM
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This is something I have started with too. Preferably video call. Saves so much time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:17 PM
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https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/age-and-fertility This medical advice page says mens fertility drops after 40 while it’s 30 for women. Do you have a better source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:24 PM
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I agree. Even though men have a longer window to have children biologically who wants to be a 40 year old with a toddler? Also men face aging issues just as much as women do. People who were attractive in their 20s and learned social skills will continue to be attractive in their 30s and 40s most likely. Unattractive people or people with many negative traits will most likely keep them or learn to hide them a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:20 PM
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I think some are common with women and others are unique to men. First signs of aging (tiredness, less libido, balding, erectile dysfunction, diabetes, cardiovascular disease). Career problems or career peak. Not enough money or workaholic so no time for relationships. Children and complicated divorces from previous relationships. Long relationships where kids are planned but suddenly end. Many matches are women who clearly look for a provider to rescue them from poor financial circumstances (un…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:26 AM
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I think the graph must be annual income? How can people earn 20 000 usd per month? Great write up though! Makes me angry and bitter to think about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 08:01 PM
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True, I read the article again. What they will do is basically track when certain keywords and topics appear in different forums and how they spread across platforms. Probably to create a social graph out of it. They will rely on machine learning and time stamps of the posts. It will be useful to create a prognosis of where violence might flare up. However the sad thing is they will not do anything to help these men to succeed in life, only police them and put them on trial as the article mentio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 07:39 PM
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Ah you mean it’s an investigation run by biased people? Sorry I’m a bit slow lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 07:31 PM
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Sorry I don’t understand
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 06:33 PM
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Wow I had no idea about voting rights, but it makes sense. I’m very allergic to feminist erasure of male suffering and the victim blaming they throw around (that we are responsible of our own suffering and a female elite is the cure).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 02:19 PM
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This is great! I mean it’s a soup of misery. Some ingredients should trigger support while other require policing. People make it too easy for themselves when they treat it as one or the other. Hope it will not be hijacked by feminists though. It’s an easy bogeyman to rally against in those circles. Let’s see how it ends up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 12:50 PM
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As a man with low social skills but high technical skills I would have been married in any other culture or timeline. Maybe not a happy marriage but at least coupled up with kids. Dating was more structured before and it was very beneficial for men like me. I don’t like the present or where we are going. This society is unable to cater to my needs so I think we should get rid of it and change it back to what we had.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:28 AM
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French are always throwing a tantrum. A rebellion there would be to drink tea and mumble about the wether and the Neighbours dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:31 PM
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I think it sort of has different meanings and implications depending on if it’s self described, slapped on someone as an insult, used to scare people or rally political support or just a word people use to describe a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:42 PM
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People tend to see misogyny as a si game brand of hatred of women. I think there are multiple sources and strains of it. Some grow up in societies where women are seen as cattle (classic payriarchal societies). Others grow up in societies where women make up the academic and intellectual elite. In some countries (Northern Europe) also the political elites. Then you also have men with abusive mothers, wives, classmates etc. the outcome looks the same but the sources are very different. Feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:38 PM
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I think you can see it reflected in how men/women vote right/left. People are still creatures of comfort so starting a rebellion is not likely. The will be more prostitution, shrinking birth rates, death of despair, homelessness and less economic output from men as a group. There will be some more recruits to fringe groups also but I think the broad masses will just suffer through their lives with copes and being miserable. I think the future of men in the west is very similar as how it went in …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:04 PM
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I think a relevant question then is to ask why are people not looking. There is a huge difference in between “I have given up because I’m not considered good enough” and “I have given up because I can’t find good enough matches” are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:13 AM
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I was raised in a feminist household, or was a matriarchy basically with violence both physical and emotional. I learned how to submit to women. Needless to say this damaged my sexuality and ability to form sexual relationships with women as an adult. Now I’m almost forty and pretty much a virgin. I live with a sex doll and have after many years in therapy realized I have an existential hatred of women and feminists. I come to this forum to vent and find like minded people. It’s refreshing. Thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:08 AM
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Lol, I think most people are like this. It’s a sad fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:51 AM
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Was just going to comment this. I think I find 1-2% of women somewhat attractive. You have to factor in age also. I have upper and lower age limits lol. No kids, no grannies. No obese women and no anorexics etc. once you prune that down there is not much left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:57 AM
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I run from all kinds of violence, not going to risk my life for strangers. Maybe I would wait somewhere and call the cops and then when they leave try to do some first aid. You don’t know if people are armed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:17 PM
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I think it’s an issue among younger men dating younger women. There is a power imbalance plus age plus undeveloped empathy etc. However for older guys I think it’s other things at play. Watching porn can be addictive and a way to deal with depression. It can also be perfectly fine way of self gratification. I think watching porn and sex with wife are two different ways to have sex. One is with oneself and the other is with the wife. A woman can’t demand a guy to not have sex on his own, that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:14 PM
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Its an interesting topic but you framed it in a rude way. Black women struggle a lot on dating apps etc just like Asian men. I don’t think it’s just one thing, but I would say cultural differences, class, finances, family pressure (honor culture), education, language barriers, having to deal with other peoples racism (living up to the defender role), macho family members. I think on the negative side there is pure racism and on the other side it’s more about having to deal with cultural differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:52 PM
2

I actually feel much better than before. Living through my youth without experiencing sex I always felt less than. Also touch starvation is a real thing. I have also been used by women in different ways. With the doll I know for sure I will not get hurt or be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:21 PM
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I’m a weirdo who bought a sex doll which is an inferior version of what you describe. I used to be very obsessed about not having a girlfriend and the doll has sort of taken the edge off that desire. I’m quite content with what I have have and unless some woman is super attractive I pass. It used to be that I never got any matches on tinder (<35yo) but now that I’m approaching 40 I do get quite a few. However compared to the doll it just seems more easy to live without a woman. I’m too old to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:19 PM
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I think the fear of being used for money is very valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:35 AM
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I would be ok with it if the kids are older like late teenagers or adults. If they are younger there is much more raising todo. Also if relationship crashes I have built up a relationship with the kids I’m not seeing. The most expensive period to have kids are the teenage years though, wile you have to do the most child caring when they are younger. I also don’t think a mother would find my lifestyle particularly attractive and that probably goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:34 AM
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Afghan saying: when birds fly over Kabul they flap with only one wing, the other is used to cover their butts (there was an article on menslib some time ago about this). Apparently this was a tradition that was brought there by Alexander the Great during his conquests. There is also a great documentary about exploited boys in Pakistan on YouTube if you dare to watch. The idea that westerners are deprived stems from this practice apparently. It’s very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:24 PM
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For context I think as women have progressed the general age gaps have been shrinking over time. I also read some statistics related to probability of breakups. For every year of age difference the probability of a breakup increases exponentially. Already at a few years age gap there is a huge increase of breakup. Personally I find it gross when people fetishize older/younger matchups. I mean maybe it works for sex but it feels very unhealthy as a foundation for a relationship. Also as a late 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:11 AM
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Women are doing better and don’t have to settle for poor men. Men are doing much worse financially and education wise with a continuous downward trend. It creates a growing gap of power in the private sphere where women have all the power and men have almost none. Some men keep on struggling but others just can’t compete, or don’t want to compete in the given terms. There is a small group of men still on the top who have their picks, but the gap between them and the majority is growing very rapi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:21 AM
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I also think things have changed over the years so that men are more hungry for babies and relationships than women. It’s an age thing, where you get women want to focus on career etc. before these cohorts would match up and settle down. There a lot of thirsty men out there though and tinder is also full of cheaters which distort the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:44 PM
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I agree, I do t understand where all these top tier men are. I think many just fake it to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:40 PM
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I think so too but what I have heard from sex therapists/couples therapists in interviews it’s difficult for women to concede. I’ve heard it’s similar with parental leave for men that mothers can have difficulties letting go, that it takes some time for them to get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:39 PM
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This is an interesting thought, I have not thought about this. It makes sense as male prostitutes are fairly uncommon and male thirst is so strong they don’t need prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:23 AM
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His life is nothing. A pet at best. I was raised and shaped by women to fit this modern manly role.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:05 PM
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Home is a traditionally female led space, like it or not, in the sense that it’s taken care of to her standard not his. If the woman also dominates finances and career outside of the home it leaves no space for the guy. You become a prop in her life. So you start to act out. I think sometimes men don’t want to take on those chores and other cases it’s the woman who won’t let him “take the lead” at home. I also read that men who do more domestic chores have less sex with their wives as the wives …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:05 PM
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Never heard about this but it makes sense. I guess I have been wise then declining “opportunities” where I know I will repeat old mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:16 PM
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Single men are generally not allowed to adopt, I have tried. Also I want my own children, not raise somebody else’s. There are lots of single moms around whose kids I could raise if I wanted that. I’m happy women now control their bodies and selves. I’m sad men have no control over their reproduction. These are two separate things. My brain/heart is large enough to fit the two thoughts/emphasize with both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:22 PM
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I agree that women should have control over their body etc. We now have equal control over our bodies. If I would be able to get pregnant I would do it in a heartbeat, looks be damned. But I can’t. This part is not equal and it would be good to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:42 AM
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I agree, but I still need a woman to reproduce. Women don’t need men to reproduce. It’s a new power imbalance. Before it was possible for men to sort of mechanically reproducing by controlling women. Now that this is no longer feasible, how am I as a man going to reproduce on my own? I do t think we should go back to what we have but this does not change the fact that as a man I lost all control over my reproduction. It’s up to women now to decide if I’m going to have children or not. If it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:38 AM
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Before machinery we had slaves. Men for working, women for sex/breeding/working. It’s a bit rich to claim it was voluntary. Us men were worked until we died while women died from childbirth mostly. I do feel an anxiety about today’s state of things. With the contraceptive pill, women’s emancipation, education and financial success is men have lost all control of our reproduction. The issue swung over 180 degrees into women’s fa our and we are still adjusting. We like to claim this is equality, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:42 AM
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That’s accurate, yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:44 PM
1

I think I’m too agreeable to be able to buy sex and chase after poor women. I could use local women for sex too but I can’t do that either. Not sure if it’s my personality, trauma or what but it’s very difficult. I wish it was not like this but.. well it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:19 AM
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You can buy dolls with internal heating systems and “the grip” is already really good. Cleaning is easy as they have insets, so it’s like a fleshlight. The main part that is missing is the AI and limb movement I think but that area is rapidly developing. China is a very conservative country but the CCP is worried about all the single men so they look the other way, a lot of really cool innovations are going to come from there. Limb movement and internal muscles are difficult to achieve I think b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:38 PM
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I think if you are already in a relationship it makes you attractive. It’s like being long term unemployed, employers prefer to hire employed people regardless of credentials. I think one of the biggest hurdles for guys like me who never got into it is that this alone makes us unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:12 PM
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Ahh you think like that! Yes I have thought about that too…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:28 AM
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I have been thinking about it. It feels wrong somehow. A colleague of mine did this and was bamboozled by a phillipina. He really loved her but got scammed out of all his savings… its quite common from what I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:48 AM
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I think work memory is a much better measurement of performance than raw IQ. I left it out on purpose haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:46 AM
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I agree, depression, changed life habits, epidemic laziness, anti social behaviour… I think alcoholics love the reopening but for many it’s not fun at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:45 AM
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I think this no masturbation has its origins in religion and that is making me uncomfortable. However I think it can be an interesting personal experiment to see how out bodies and minds react if we stop doing something, like abstaining food for a few days, sleep, not talking, working out. Of course it’s not good if it’s done to an extreme.. but yeah it’s a way to learn about ourselves and maybe get out of that comfort zone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 12:30 AM
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I think history is mostly written by powerful people who were emperors or religious people. I find working class/peasant studies much more interesting as it’s more relevant to the majority of men and the “true history of masculinity”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 11:49 PM
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I think WHO counts education equality like this: boy and girl in school = equality boy in school but girl is not = not equal girl in school but boy is not = equal It skews the statistics. Considering how poorly boys do in school it’s just infuriating. You can’t really trust any statistics that calculates equality, as they tend to “compensate for the patriarchy” in different ways
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 11:44 PM
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I’ve been chasing after women who despise me my entire life, I’m going to enjoy the rest of my life the best I can. But yeah I have grown too resentful of the opposite sex to be able to love any one of them. Sex dolls are the future for failed men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 11:31 PM
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Statistically I’m doing fine. 185cm, white, 135 IQ, top 70% earner in my country, top 90% net worth of my region. However my upbringing and lack of relationships with women makes me unappealing. I also don’t have an education which is a big nono on the dating market. The sex doll does not care about such things and she is not mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:41 PM
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No I’m quite slim, 185cm Caucasian, but I live in Northern Europe so that’s pretty standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:35 PM
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Im an unattractive guy who lives with my sex doll because I have failed to hook up/establish a relationship with a human. Before COVID I never got any matches… like ever. Now suddenly during and afterwards I got loads of matches. First I could not understand why but when I started meeting these women I quickly realized they were all unemployed, students due to unemployment or artistic people who lost their income as the cultural sector went into lockdown. I also encountered lots of single moms. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:31 PM
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Yes, I’m attracted to intelligence. All the woman I have dated have had PhDs or been working on them. I did a IQ test in my 20s and I got a high score there. Not sure if it’s related or if it’s more of a social class thingy. But yes I find it attractive. What’s funny is that this is only in meatspace. On tinder I never swipe on them only on cuteness. Somehow that intelligence is a turnoff on dating apps. Maybe it’s because it tends to come with arrogance and high demands. Not sure if this dynami…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 08:16 PM
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“Every man is gross except my man and my sons who are wonderful” also applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:14 AM
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It’s a bit complicated. When you have a dominant parent of the opposite sex you learn to appease and please. Women struggle with this too. Men who learn to please and appease to get what they want from women grow up into Nice Guys. Some find relationships and start families but typically the wife’s get very resentful about the niceness. The book no more mr nice guys goes into great detail about this dynamic. Some guys like me turn incel, because we have learned from women that we should be obedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:06 AM
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I think the passive aggressiveness in left wing/progressive circles is definitely turning off a bunch of men. If you don’t have a stake in the prosperity of women and minorities (like wife, living in such neighborhoods) there is no reason to put up with it or vote for it . I don’t think it’s progressives that have caused the decline in men lives. It’s international competition in manufacturing and such, women graduating at higher degrees (men’s decline there is relative, not absolute). Add to it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:56 AM
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I can relate to the dominant mother plus passive dad combo. It’s really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:46 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:42 PM
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Also look at the women going on vacation in Gambia. It’s more out in the open there. Just because we can’t see it, does not mean it does not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:24 PM
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I’m sorry you can’t be who you are around them, I hope you find a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:21 PM
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Yes but with no success. I do t have the social skills to do it and at work I feel it’s inappropriate after metoo. I know colleagues hook up all the time but I care about my career. I know one guy who was demoted for having an affair with a colleague.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:03 PM
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Yeah I don’t understand how sometimes people interpret the statistics that married men earn more as it would somehow be a consequence of the marriage. Women don’t want men with poor financial prospects. Neglecting boys education and path to power, wealth and social status is a form of castration. This neglect is mind boggling and it’s making me really hate both society and the women who argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:01 PM
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I agree that the greatest costs are economic. It hits in both ways, they don’t contribute to society and they case costs for others (parents, social security etc). Children are major drivers of purchases of capital goods. Without children why should I own a car? Or a bigger home? I don’t think the political reactions will be revolution but more disintegration of democracy. If the system can’t provide things like housing, hope for a better future, fatherhood, community then what is it good for? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:44 PM
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More gated communities, cruelty. Older and older demographics as people can’t afford or want to have kids. The transactionalism and fragmentation mostly impacts lower classes while the upper classes enjoys the spoils. Like today but more aggressive and out in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:27 PM
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It gets better with age I think. I have no patience for gold diggers. I grew wealthy only playing computer games and feeling sad for myself. I’m not wasting it on some woman..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:39 PM
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That’s a really unempathic view! I have been propping up insecure women my whole life, been a shoulder to cry on and supported them in times of good and bad and whatever goals they have. I expect women to do the same for men and boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:38 PM
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Thanks for doing your part in this!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:35 PM
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It’s sad because if you don’t do that then they won’t get any affection or become dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:34 PM
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I’m sort of an ex incel and I went on a date with a woman after a 10 year drought. She wanted me to buy her a new phone… like… NO! I ended up buying a sex doll as it’s not manipulative and and manipulating for free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:33 PM
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Yes that’s what I tried to write 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:31 PM
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It’s a bit like that. The guys who care and listen absorb too much of the metoo shaming while the guys who are more resilient/narcissistic shake it off. So it exaggerates an already skewed situation.We need to find a way to boost the insecure guys while keeping a tab on the abusive ones. Doing only one thing might help women but it’s really mean to the insecure guys out there. They really need all the support they can get to achieve and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:29 PM
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I think the focus of this whole thing should be to raise better men. Men who are more confident, sexually healthy and forward, higher earning, better educated and culturally/fiscally wealthier. It’s not something you can win elections on though as boosting women is in vogue. Boosting men would come off as a step backwards. I think it will take 10 years or so until things start to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:27 PM
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It would be terrible for women and equality but it would really help men building families. I guess it comes down to who you care about more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:24 PM
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I think it does in dating apps. Actually it’s worse than that there, but that’s mainly a result of the make:female ratio there. Outside in meatspace the ratio is much better. Though a lot of men are no longer measuring up there either due to educational gap, income or living in another location than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:22 PM
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I know, it feels better to bully them, hate on them and push them away while the opposite would be what is needed. Garbage and lost men are not fun to deal with and the gut reaction will always be to destroy them rather than care. This is why I think the whole thing will just get worse and worse over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:43 PM
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I don’t think it’s a good idea. As a former one I know they have theses sect like behaviour s to feed of others hatred. There is also a vein of narcissism in it which will get fed too. It’s better to dismantle it by offering pathways to what they want: sex and relationships. Work, socialization through therapy and education to get better career prospects etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:46 PM
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It’s a mess. I had an abusive upbringing so it’s a mixture of: fear of intimacy poor self esteem shame around my sexuality and attraction fear of uneven attraction, if I just want sex but they are in love with me it’s not right to exploit them fear of erectile dysfunction embarrassed that I’m a virgin/inexperienced realized too late they were interested in me “that way” feeing I could find someone better many were traumatized and I felt maybe they used me as a self harming tool (a woman I dated …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:49 AM
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I started dating at 34, with almost no experience. I had opportunities with women who asked me out etc but I was not attracted to them. I felt bad about using them like that. Seeing a prostitute is worse though, as they might be trafficked and exploited. I bought a sex doll which I think is a much better option for sexless guys. It’s a lot of fun and a good alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:48 AM
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Yup agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:45 AM
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I’m not American but I know what you mean. I’ve struggled quite a bit with this as you might imagine and I have found some inspiration from what black men write and think. I mean it’s not comparable but the mind fu****y, subtle violence and the policing of me under the umbrella of “doing good” is very similar. The content which white male communities produce is much more uneducated (like incel and other types of content). I think it’s slowly moving in the right direction as we “the offspring” of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 10:03 PM
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I’m sorry but I don’t think we match. Good luck, don’t give up hope and I hope you find what you are looking for. Then unmatch or block number if necessary. If the guy is violent or manipulative it does not matter what you say he will try to get around it. If he is on the autism spectrum/socially inept he cannot misinterpret this. It’s also a positive note and empathic with the struggle. This is also how I reject women. I might add a reason as “you don’t want kids but I do” etc in cases where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:49 PM
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There is no central comity that decides who gets to call themselves feminist or not. They are as feminist as it gets. There are the positives of the movement and there are the negatives. I think it’s rude that only the success stories are being celebrated in media. “Men of the future” like me have an equal share in the limelight and should also be celebrated, at least that’s my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:36 PM
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Yes I have told them that it’s basically my girlfriend now, also my mom. I think they are ok with it. It fits their idea of men fucking everything and they think its better then me buying sex from prostitutes. They are not affected by my loss of intimacy or children themselves so why should they care? I have never met a woman who cares about men having sexual experiences. The less sex men have the more they celebrate, it’s seen as a win for women I think as it’s an indicator of that women have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:30 PM
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Yeah, here are some more detailed examples: in school my parents did not want me to achieve in school as they wanted me and my sisters to have equal grades. If I was doing better they asked me to tone it down a bit. when I was pursuing women my female friends told me these women were not my type and I should not pursue women like those “fuck boys” and that hitting on women is rude. I should not sexualize women like that. when I tried to get buff and do martial arts my sisters and female friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:25 PM
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Patriarchy is carried up by powerful men, so the women around me discouraged me from achieving as it was a way to support patriarchy, which in turn was a way for me to oppress them. “How can you do this to me, I’m your sister/mom/best friend/classmate” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:54 PM
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Came here to say this. I know one guy like this but he is a special case. Most guys date their own age group. I think it’s actually women who date younger from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:49 PM
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I consider myself a post feminist man. I was raised by a feminist mother with two feminist sisters in a generally feminist northern european society. My sisters are doing great with careers and relationships. Me on the other hand have always been struggling. The constant shaming especially around sex and achievement (don’t be one of the bad guys) has crippled me sexually and career wise. I’ve seen it as dirty to be ambitious and sexualize women in any kind of way. The older I get and the more I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:45 PM
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I find extroverted women hotter but I fall in love with introverted women, if that makes any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:38 PM
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Men should be very picky when choosing women, even if they are not that attractive themselves. It’s a dignity/self respect thing that I think makes us more attractive. It also helps with the tinder algorithm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:37 PM
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I think it’s makeup. I experimented a bit during the lockdown. Just a small amount under my eyes. A less “feminine” approach would be extra attention to skin care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:36 PM
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I think men have always been divided into a looser group and a winner group. For women they hold more of the middle. Not top earners but not bottom earners either. More women who want to start a family will be able to do so than men also. However the women who are on the bottom experience much worse than the men on the bottom (in terms of sexual slavery etc). I think there is a role in the future for the top bracket of men but the rest will simply have to accept that they are not desirable anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:32 PM
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This is happening with men in the west too. I know a guy who lives with his sex doll, who he treats like a girlfriend. He has tried dating therapy and improving himself but at some point he just gave up. I think we will se it more over here too. It will just not be as visible as in Japan. They also have stronger drivers for it as the new and the old have greater contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:26 PM
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I also things will go the Japan route, at least in some demographics. Or that women reuse men with good careers more. The theme will be fragmentation and loneliness and poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:16 PM
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