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If a woman writes “I’m tired of fuck boys” or “I want to date men, not boys” it means she's been with a lot of really trashy men, is jaded AF and IF she agrees to start dating, man, you will have your work cut out...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:01 PM
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Children are the offspring of the tribe and paternity and virginity are pretty much unimportant because monogamous relationships are not a cultural thing. They give literally no fucks about it. Women would LOVE this! Get pregnant by Chad Bodybuilder and have Melvin Compsci on backup for cash & emotional support. Maybe he gets a pity fuck when Chad is busy impregnating another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:25 AM
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Herbivore men in the west. It begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:50 PM
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Mommy make me tendies plz u da best
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 08:12 PM
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Maybe omega men, sick of depression, will mass suicide in public. At least you'll get nightmares then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:25 PM
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Yep, can vouch for part of that. Women try to raise men to avoid being like those who hurt them. Not realizing they fell in love with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:07 PM
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IDK women want to look good for social validation a lot more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:03 PM
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but I doubt there’s not one women in this big world who’d love you. My mom at BEST, LOL XD No, not in that way :P
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:01 PM
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A guy's gotta do what he's gotta do... If ugly girls are the best they can do what else can they choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:58 PM
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Or, better yet, get a girlfriend or get married so your balls are perpetually empty. blue and your wallet empty. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:56 PM
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No and I'd tell him too. He'd probably think I made it all up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:54 PM
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No I just don't give a fuck. I'm ugly & autistic enough that women only want me for money if at all. While I won't deny a woman the validity of her wishes I won't let myself be used by her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:52 PM
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If you are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:47 PM
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Go fuck Chad. Nobody's stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:47 PM
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I have no one to cheat on so it's not either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:42 PM
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Hell no, she will bleed you dry of money and life. She has the school of the streets and likely a lover from her own class who she'll be slipping money to. You'll end up alone destitute and sick. I just saw something like this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:40 PM
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you actually have a life to share with them. True enough, preferably have one more exciting than their "get dragged into social circles, go home, watch Netflix"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:35 PM
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Yeah except most people didn't dump their SP for the oneitis from 20 years ago. I think a more legit problem is that we have unrealistic expectations about what being in love is or should be. Most likely. Plenty of women wrote on how modern society shaped their expectations to believe there were enough prince charmings out there but they were just unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:11 PM
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Men are thirsty...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:10 PM
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Hooking up (having casual sex) is a very different animal than being in a relationship. Surely you can look outside at the world and see that more than 10% of all men are in relationships? And even in hook-up culture, I gotta be honest... I'd only hook up with maybe 10% of the female OR male population, myself. Hooking up has a lot of risks. Funny enough the men who get the most hookups ARE often the most risky demographic. Otherwise yeah I agree with you. Can't say I met too many woman whom I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:09 PM
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Why is being chaste considered a 'prude'? Abstaining from adultery should be a positive trait sought after in one's potential mate. She broke that unspoken assumption when admitting to fucking some rando Chad while drunk. This wasn't a youthful indiscretion. As for Dave I don't know him personally. He may well be a guy who is alpha but looks a bit beta on the outside. Women desire the big, tall guy with the big sharp jaw and deep brow. Doesn't mean a more demure looking guy can't be alpha.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/19 10:06 PM
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"Maybe, if I'm still single when I'm 30"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/19 05:45 AM
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Oh dear... She looks 60
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 08:15 AM
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Had me at Men will raise someone else's. Not unless I adopt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 08:09 AM
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Well of course. She's not some farm animal to bear beta children. Only stallion sperm for her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 08:05 AM
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and that the guys all have something wrong with them Well there is something wrong with them, they're not Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 08:02 AM
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In my formative years, romance was John Cusack and Ione Skye in Say Anything. In her later years she decided to inject herself with Chad sperm and be a single mom. Leading by example.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 08:00 AM
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Dave is a situational alpha. But on the outside he lacks alpha traits. And women judge men mostly by how they look when deciding to sleep with them. If the woman you're dating isn't giving you signals that she wants to be intimate with you she's most likely finding you to be "make him wait" boyfriend material. I mean seriously most women aren't prudes you're just not hot enough.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 07:32 AM
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It was her female hamster trying to test beta Dave to see if he was good cuckfriend material. If Dave had been a fuckboy she'd have jumped his cock on the first date.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/19 07:27 AM
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They're allowed to reject all the men in the world as far as I'm concerned. That's not the point. While women are supposed to be more picky but this is just becoming ridiculous. Plus, look at all the independent strong women who are now old and regret not settling down when it was still doable. Even if every desirable man took 4 wives there are STILL not enough of them to cover even 60% of the women. Remember the Tinder college experiment. 75% of the girls hooked up with 10% of the guys. The res…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:17 AM
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Guys and girls have been fawning over hotter people since the dawn of time. But right now women have a really easy time fulfilling that fantasy and in a lot of cases it leaves these women alpha widowed and unable to fall in love with any man who's not at least as good of a full package as "the one that got away".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:08 AM
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She probably has a ton of guys who would go longterm or even marry her RIGHT NOW. But they're likely guys in their early-mid 40s and she wants a guy who's of similar age, tall, hot and successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 07:01 AM
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If you look really off or strange/weird the best you can hope to for is to get lucky meeting someone who doesn't mind it that much. Which is a lot less likely now than, say 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:58 AM
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I have no incentive to lie about this on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:17 PM
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name sort of checks out :P Yeah it's a lighter brand but... zip = zilch = 0
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:14 PM
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"You do whats right without being asked and don't ask for a thank you." Great way of being seen as a "nice guy". I'm not saying don't help people, but if you turn into someone who's willing to help people out on the regular for free, people will abuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:11 PM
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It's one thing to compromise things for a person you know and an entirely different thing to compromise for someone you have no idea about just because you're "lower value" and have to provide a sacrifice of sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:10 PM
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For a woman I know nothing about other than she's attractive? The same thing Chad is willing to sacrifice. Not a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:08 PM
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Well there's not a lot to say. Overweight people do struggle more with dating, especially dating the people they desire. As for average men being fine, every person has a different definition of average, with some overlap. Unfortunately that overlap is higher than the true average. But as far as human perception goes, yes, "average" men are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:05 PM
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Redpill is dogmatic to the point of obsession and fails to realize that NOT ALL WOMEN ARE like that Bluepill is dumb to the point of amazement and ALSO fails to realize that NOT ALL WOMEN ARE like that Both pills pedestalize women and are centered on them an their behaviors. Meanwhile women go around fucking the hottest guys they can bag and a sizeable chunk of men end up arguing over abstract ideas with their dicks in their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:03 PM
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Okay, I won't argue with you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:55 PM
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omg go outside and meet people in real life because no, not every woman thinks like this. insanity. What a cute reaction! :) You should try being an overweight or shorter than 6' man for a day or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:47 PM
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Once you accept that everyone is flawed, you're able to celebrate flaws in yourself and others, rather than set expectations at "perfection" and then inevitably watch the world and everyone in it fail to live up to it for eternity. Tell that to women. They reject men for all sorts of minor flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:42 PM
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Now... a better question is: "What about you warrants staying with?" Do you have a good rapport with her? Does she feel safe and comfortable with you? Do you have shared interests? What do you do together outside of sex? What do you do to engage with her? Do you have mutually enjoyable conversations? The same questions desirable men ask of women... This goes both ways. MEN MAY BE in oversupply, BUT DESIRABLE MEN, whooo boy! They're less than 1/5 of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:36 PM
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Lots of men don't mind being second rung as long as it's not all day every day. But they're not the men these women want. Loads of guys out there who'd like to try to have a relationship with these women and could even give them a decent workout in bed every now and again. But simping, male thirst and the evolution of smartphones (and yes apps like Tinder) made short work of that and now many women believe the hot 6'2 tall blond man wants more than to just wet his dick in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:34 PM
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Better than marrying an airhead who spends you into bankruptcy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:30 PM
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This isn't a "better" or"worse" question-- most of dating isn't. It's a matching problem. Most women want to be matched to the top % of men and would rather be single otherwise. Or at least that's the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:29 PM
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Hey, at least she had her fun. Work hard, play hard, woooo! A Chad here, a Brad there. Couple more flings with hot fuckboys. "Too busy for a real relationship! I'm stressed from work and want to have FUN!" She jokes on her 31st birthday about just getting married to one of her co-workers Finally ready to settle. Looking for something REAL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:24 PM
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Tell her she is stressed out, and use her money to go on vacation with her? How many of these women you think want a kept man? They want a guy who's on a similar (if not higher) rung as they are. Maybe they'll take on a boy-toy every now and again, but for a relationship, nah, not really. Plus to be a boy-toy you have to look primo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:22 PM
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Imagine being a desirable 30-34 yo man who can date 25-27 yo women. Why would you choose to play second rung to a career woman / single mom the same age as you ? For charity? Lots of orphanages need donations. Lots of children out there in need of a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:18 PM
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No but these women offer almost nothing to most men, and they also reject the few men who do approach them as not being high quality enough for her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:17 PM
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Ok, reasons why career women would be bad to date: you would hardly spend any time together. she would be too selfish to have a relationship with. her serious personality would get depressing after a while. why should you have to come second to someone's work all the time? Even with all that she still expects Prince Charming with looks money and status to wait on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:16 PM
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Nothing. It's just that once a woman goes black she'll cuck you with Tyrone on the side.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 12:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure she rejected her fair share of Melvins and Brads on her way through the field of Tyrone roosters. Her dealer had more "personality" I guess...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 11:52 AM
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So out of all other races, black men are most "loyal" to Asian women!? Hahahaha! Even they caught the hentai bug it seems XD
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 11:50 AM
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Being self-aware is good. But it doesn't cancel her existing obligations to her kid + pregnancy. Before her pregnancy she was most likely cute, too bad she chose Tyrone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/19 11:45 AM
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1) 1 2) 29 3) 0 "too fat & autistic to date" "not built for relationships" - as said by real, live, women 4) No, LOL 5) Mentally red & black, Socially blue (I don't want to get arrested)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:54 AM
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Dafuq are we having the freaking toiletseat discussion again ? Yeah the sensible thing to do is to put the seat down so the smells can't escape. Also if you have rat problems in the neighborhood. Then again, falling in the toilet? WTF!?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:32 AM
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Rats can swim up the toilet bend. https://youtu.be/0t2VPBF6Kp4?t=62
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:31 AM
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"you deserve a nice woman" Maybe that's an unspoken admission she's not a nice woman. :) can protect themselves mentally from guilt due to their hypocrisy From my experience growing with women, many of them don't really process cognitive dissonance until later in life. Many women also really do believe they have the right to be "first among equals" in their relationship with men. and can avoid criticism without taking much responsibility. TBH men and women both want to avoid criticism and respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:25 AM
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Well, awareness of autism grew a lot, but not too long ago adults with high functioning autism were labeled as spoiled, immature, lazy and even malicious. Maybe some people see you as "autistic", but not in a clinical sense. They still believe it's something easily fixed with therapy, just cause therapy fixed their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:15 AM
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Unless you are hot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 06:13 PM
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Also... 666 /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 06:12 PM
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She's the Supreme Thot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 06:11 PM
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Most people who are against a prenup nowadays are either ignorant or have alternative motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:55 PM
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> I found the situation morbidly funny. Yeah that IS actually funny. > If you decided to leave your wife, what should she do assuming she spent years being a wife/mother/homemaker/cook? In that case alimony would be fair. But nowadays it's predominantly skewed in favor of women who already have a well paying job. Hell there have been cases where the wife sued the husband 2-3 years after the divorce because the husband's NEW business (made after the divorce) made a few million $ and she wanted a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:54 PM
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You still seem to have a large enough social network. Other than watercooler talk at work and a couple of friends I see once or twice a month I'm by myself. I used to hate it but I've gotten used to it (as well as seeing myself in the mirror). But every now and again I do feel lonely, kinda hard not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:51 PM
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Let me guess you went for the guys who gave you the tingles... :) Congrats to them. Being a able to become a "kept man" is probably the apex of alpha-ness nowadays. And bi women dating other women behave differently to how they behave when dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:46 PM
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Sure none of them means "pay me". One of the worst insults you can throw at a woman is to imply she's prostituting herself for money.But please, do try and date these women. Many times you'll end up having to pick up groceries for them, take their kids to various places , basically get used for all kinds of services she'd normally pay people for.And worst of all, while you play pretend dad, she's out there getting it on with bad boys on the side. I grew up in a single mom household so I saw both…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:39 PM
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Nah the official ranking is Attractive men > Attractive women > Fit ugly women > average ugly women > average ugly men > ugly men > obese ugly women > obese ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:35 PM
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The unattractive woman is at supreme disadvantage I'd say men wanting to spend time with you is better than women NOT wanting to spend time with you. Used by men for a fuck when she wants a relationship, Yeah, if she's going for men n tiers out of her league. and unable to find a man that satisfies her tingles in the long term while providing stability So she CAN get a relationship, just not with HRH Prince CEO "Wunderwiener" Charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:30 PM
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I would too, but I'm an introvert who's OK with going out with friends once a week or even once every two weeks. Most people can't spend too much time alone for more than 3 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:26 PM
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Quite literally, in the age bracket of 20-40 there's a 0.5% to 7% (yeah, China) surplus of men (depending on where you live).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:24 PM
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Wanting a relationship does not equal wanting a sugar daddy. For a lot of women it does. "Looking for something real... A real man... Who will invest in me (and my kids)... My kids are #1..." etc. A lot of women are either in their "I can change fuckboys into family men" phase or in their "I'm done with players and fuckboys and just want a real man" phase. NAWALT but enough women are that it's significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:20 PM
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Regarding the particular topic of choosing men, not only do women tend to chase "bad men", they tend to chase the same "bad men" who harmed other women "Maybe he'll be different with me!" or "I can help him! He's just misunderstood..." Blame is on a spectrum, not a switch you flip: Yeah if a woman was just minding her own business and she was assaulted / harassed she's at 0% fault, regardless of what she was wearing, how provocative she seemed, etc. At the other end, western women who travel to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 04:17 PM
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Other people also have to be willing to stay around you. Unlike other skills, you won't get very far with practicing social skills by yourself. Unless you are literally a low functioning autistic elephant man, you can make the best of the looks you have and you can certainly learn improved social skills. Back in the early-mid 2000s? Yeah! Nowadays, not so much. Most people don't want to befriend a work in progress and are waiting at the finish line for the full package. The only people willing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 03:01 PM
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How many of these are realizations after the fact and regretted consensual interactions vs actual cases of "he was too strong to challenge back then" ? I'm eagerly waiting for all the women who gave backstage & bus blowjobs to today's rappers to come out 5 to 10 years from now. If those rappers survive that long and don't get killed in shootouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:33 PM
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Yeah, and physical attractiveness & social awareness are the heavy hitters. The worse you fare off in those two you are the more you have to compensate for it. It affects women too but doubly so for men. Especially in modern times where most high functioning autistic men are constantly compared to men like Temple Grandin, Michael Phelps or Bill Gates. In some cases it gets so bad that you have to basically be both an athlete and a literal rocket scientist at the same time just to have a shot at …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:27 PM
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Especially for women, alpha widow yourself fast & early. I need more episodes of "Cat Ladies" dammit! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:04 PM
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Don't cheap out on things unless you plan on breaking them. It's better in the long run to spend more on something durable and take reasonable care using that thing. Also that I'm too poor in time, energy and money to afford the mantra "fail early, fail often" so I have to err on the side of caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:02 PM
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My point is that being risk averse may lower your chances with dating it doesn't reduce them to 0 by itself. Look at all the risk averse people who are married. Also taking stupid risks isn't a trait of "good" masculinity. Taking risks for social media is an art where you have to balance the actual risk with how "brave" everyone else perceives you to be for taking that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 12:58 PM
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How does that follow ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 12:54 PM
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We have a whole field of math & numerous fields of science based on chances & outcomes. They haven't exactly failed us yet. ONE ugly guy in 10.000 ugly guys managing to find a soulmate who isn't a gold digger & actually appreciates him for what he can offer is hardly good news for the other 9999. Even 1 ugly guy in 1000 ugly guys getting lucky isn't exactly a portent of rejoicing. You have more of a chance to be born with WPW syndrome than an ugly guy has to get in a good, non-abusive relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 10:26 AM
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Other than James Franco, these guys are now all old and ugly (as opposed to their young days). And from what I read about them, there are a few instances of legitimate assault or harassment from these guys with most of the accusations coming from basically regret + now we can do it. Also, it was known these guys were players and were looking for flings as opposed to single guys who may or may not be looking for a relationship. Let's not shove our heads in the sand that when a LTR with "Mr. Thund…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 10:22 AM
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Those damn incels! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:21 AM
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But if you can be happy regardless of what happens to you Yeah shove that unicorn in there. That would require supreme ignorance or clinical retardation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:16 AM
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Just like being afraid to take risks means you're destined not to be a business owner. Most people aren't business owners...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:16 AM
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Yeah but the law of averages dictates that most single, lonely people are below average, while most people with partners leading normal lives will be average or higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:12 AM
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Are they good looking and successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:10 AM
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:09 AM
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The death rates at work, suicide rates, body image issues around being short or ugly,depression and isolation from failing at interacting with women, being a miserable incel, falling behind in education and career failure, fear in a hostile climate of metoo aimed mostly at men who weren't going to assault anyone anyway... these are just something annoying MRAs whine about, not glaring international issues worthy of mens marches and billions in tax funding. One can pay lip service and admit that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:51 AM
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Yeah, but that's p.a. Not yet in total, still it's enough to buck and potentially reverse the total.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:48 AM
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Only if they're hot though. saw yourself as not worthy and then backwards rationalized it into some socially acceptable concern Most leftist guys fall into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:47 AM
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If a girl thinks I'm a creep for approaching her, then its probably cause she thinks I'm ugly. Suddenly I'm not creepy when she finds me cute. That or she has a boyfriend, is eyeing another guy, etc. But yeah, unless you either freeze on the spot and leered at her or acted extremely sleazy you were most probably not creepy and it was all in her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:45 AM
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You were told you were an oppressor? Indirectly, yes. When I was in my teens most media oriented towards that demographic was full of interviews with female artists talking about men being assholes and how they just want a nice guy. TBH I should've taken the hint from their "sex advice" pages when the picture for the male was always a tall, fit, blue eyed blond guy. Feminism has turned from a fight against oppression to a fight against undesirable males. You can bet your ass with hands on both c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:41 AM
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Yeah, it's mostly because women tend to be attracted to men whose sum of traits gets him labeled as a jerk or asshole. Women may not explicitly go for assholes, but the end effect is the same. Guess what the "assholes" also grew up listening to the same media. They pay them lip service on the very surface (as to not get arrested) but it's clear from how they act they don't give a fuck. Feminism started as a movement to earn women their due rights. Nowadays it's mostly a shit test to weed out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:34 AM
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It's all good until money comes into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 07:28 AM
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Guess who's going to be blamed if Jenny gets pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:54 AM
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Women greet me with the utmost politeness and try to cut any conversation short. They also button up their shirts and pull on their skirts. Could it be they're madly in love with me? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:23 AM
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Yeah even outside of dating a lot of women abuse the pussy pass
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:13 AM
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Except women DO get turned on by looking at a man. It's not the exact same as in men but..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:10 AM
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Women don't want to even date ugly men behind closed doors much less sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:09 AM
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Most women are actual alpha widows nowadays. Chad has his way with (up to) the top 60% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 09:42 AM
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That set of photos is quite literally Alpha Fucks / Beta Bux. Which reminds me, looking at those photos, that I'm not even a Beta Bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 09:19 AM
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Even better for you then, given it's helped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:56 AM
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Yes it does. understand feminists [...] don't like you, make decisions and take responsibility for them. And I doubt the average man or reddit is that irresponsible. Maybe lazy at worst but we're all lazy to some extent and modern individualism has only spurred that trend on. We can't all be lucky go-gettersc with Fortune 500 businesses. I mean, shit, for there to be a Fortune 500 there have to be businesses outside the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:06 PM
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O... kay?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/19 04:02 PM
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So you have sex with fit incels or something? :/ Okay! Good for you! And good for those who can find a way to change themselves to that extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:02 PM
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Too late for that. They found the culprit. And the guy doesn't exactly look like a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 09:25 AM
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Feminism is in many ways a reaction to a number of inequalities that existed in the past and to some degree still exist today. In many other ways, it's also a giant shit test, as most of the leading figures of feminism who aren't lesbians are usually alpha widows. The more extreme a feminist figurehead's views, the more likely she had in her life, at one time, a Chad who pumped and dumped her. I wouldn't call women more emotionally mature or apt given how many of them Chads can get to suck them …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 05:49 AM
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The alternative isn't anything really. Women will continue demanding. Men will offer what best they can. Those who can "improve" will, those who can't won't. To be completely honest improving yourself to attract a better partner is only smart if you had a chance to begin with. Going on a Red Pill diet is stupid for most incels as they have shitty genetics and at best they'll have weird looking fit bodies instead of weird looking fat bodies. Just don't get so fat that it affects your heart, maint…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 05:46 AM
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And women can continue to fatten themselves up, sitting on their asses and watching Netflix. Don't forget in the $$ market men now ALSO have to compete against women. And as the great & hallowed feminist doctrine says A MAN JUST CAN'T BE better than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 05:41 AM
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Yeah watch my unaesthetic gut bounce around as I walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:37 AM
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Men are expected to be better except feminsim says they can never be better since, suppose a man can do something positive then certainly a woman can do it too (maybe even better). :P Am I hamstering correctly ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:15 AM
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So, basically women can do everything men can (and then some) only having, at worst, superficial issues, while men are useless (since women can technically do everything men can) therefore amplifying every defect they have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:12 AM
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No I'm saying it would get even worse. Mass surveillance HAS been abused and WILL be abused. And even if you are in the right, lawsuits (especially against the state) are expensive as fuck. Remember, It's easy to want all undesirables removed, until you are marked as undesirable yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:05 AM
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Fuck yes! It's better for a criminal to escape once in a while than for everyone to be put under mass surveillance. Mass surveillance means that, basically the government has you by the balls/pussy. Everyone of us commits some form of misdemeanor Imagine receiving tickets for every time you jaywalked, pissed in the wrong bathroom because the other one was broken, didn't have a napkin and spat in the bushes, smoked a cigarette in an open air no smoking zone, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:49 AM
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It was wrong to test THE whole staff indiscriminately. You start by testing the staff that actually had a reasonable chance to come into contact with the patient. You don't test someone who, say, wasn't even in the same block at the time of the incident. It's not like hospitals don't have timetables. Why not just give out our DNA & prints to a global database "just in case" ? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:43 AM
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Well that's really the problem here. In theory the equation is the same for both men and women. You have to pick someone to date out of the people who want to date you. In practice the difference between men and women in terms of desirability is orders of magnitude. But yeah, I guess if you don't want to date any of the N people who DO want to date you it's up to you to: find a way to expand your dating pool settle for the best out of your dating pool continue remaining single The annoyance here…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 12:37 AM
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Yeah sorry I can't just take your word for that - it makes no sense to me. As a woman you have to be severely deformed to have some difficulty finding men (not Chads, average men) who want to date you. As a man if you're not fit and thin you're fucked on the dating market (maybe you can date obese women or single moms in need of a bailout).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:13 PM
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Because racing a car along a curvy mountain road with your favorite music blaring is LITERALLY the most 3D, HD, No lag, immersive, high quality texture video game you can play. TL;DR Yes I am going to be an asshole. OK, in my country, right now: $ 382 most expensive PSVR bundle $ 615 most expensive PS4 Pro bundle $ 594 Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel $ 65 LOGITECH G Gear shifter $ 402 Playseat Cockpit Revolution $ 30 Most expensive price for Driveclub VR $ 60 Most expensive price for GT Sport = $ 2148 a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 08:23 PM
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and she'll get one Where Are All The (good looking) Good Men?TM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 08:04 PM
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You can go outside and go explore other cities, go race cars, go out on a boat, ride a bike, travel to the Caribbean, and you can do all those things alone. Y THO? Now do these things cost money, sure. Im not saying do things outside your budget. But riding a bike in a national park is in the same budget range as playing some videos games. It's not like I go cycling to pick-up women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 05:17 PM
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Cuck. If your woman tells you she's leaving you show her the door.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 05:12 PM
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Hey why not ask "where are all the hot men?" at least that way it'd be the truth
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 04:51 PM
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Maybe not a plumber per se, but the owner of a plumbing business. More and more women are choosing to not get married. Suuuure... More like they're realizing they'd rather be a bachelorette with access to Chad than marry a betabux. Most of these women absolutely want to get married, they just can't find eligible (in their eyes) men who also want to commit longterm. They want one of the men with options to "dock his ship in many ports" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:16 PM
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Well you know what i'm talking about. Few women really stay single. But she'll be in and out of the dating market never really settling on a partner while dreaming about H.R.H Chad M.D. At least until she realizes her only choice left is a successful betabux in her late 30s to early 40s when she'll finally settle down and birth a couple of autistic kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:49 AM
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Uhhh it has a lot to do as this applies to women currently in their early 30s in a lot of places around the world. And believe me, it takes a lot for the average woman to be undesirable to the degree the average man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:38 AM
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Except the number of men graduating college is getting smaller while for women it's getting larger. Right now more women graduate college than men. In not too many years the numbers will be completely flipped, the total number of graduating women exceeding that of men significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:16 AM
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the future will be full of many more unhappy men and women who can't find someone interested in them. No, the future will be full of many more unhappy women who can't find a rich, college educated Chad interested in committing to them. It's only the men who won't find anyone interested in them (other than maybe obese single moms in debt).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:07 AM
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They are though. They still want a good looking, college educated man who outearns them. They might have a fling with a local electrician or similar if he's hot. But they'd rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:05 AM
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All the "cool aunts", single in their 40s & 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:03 AM
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You are a really nice guy, and I really appreciate the level of respect that you are treating me with She already knows you're a blue pilled dude. It's over. Now she'll make you work for every kiss, every touch, every time you have sex. And don't be surprised if she cheats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:02 AM
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Hey i'm 5'11" and can't get a date for $h*t! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:25 PM
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"Easy" women are only easy for Chad. Many women don't want to be judged for getting their fill of Chad in their youth and then settling with Melvin in their 30s & 40s. This seems to be the trend. Where as men used to be seen as more sexually experienced, it's now men who have to get with women that have far more experience. And, unfortunately for women, they also tend to not really like guys less experienced than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:12 AM
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Most women are just as (if not more) boring as the men they decry. Famous instathots travel on Habib Oil Buxx's dime twice a year, hit the gym once or twice a week and almost every other day of the year they just LDAR @ home and watch Netfilx. About the only interesting tidbits most of them know are what some wealthy guy they dated told them. The only ones who have to be holistically attractive to make friends and socialize are men. A woman just has to be somewhat fit (20% or less body fat), not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:33 AM
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the more they probably want pornstar level sex from a girl Great way to end up in the ER for your average Joe & Jane. Other than that, I'm pretty sure the average guy just wants to have his "itch" scratched on a semi-regular basis. Those actors are generally very fit and a lot of the more outlandish positions take great effort & coordination to pull off without breaking / tearing something. Some ordinary couples can have "porn-like" sex but, in the end, most men aren't former athlete Chad & most…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:24 AM
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Most "instathot" models just use filters and photo angles. Most men don't see women in porn as realistic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 11:12 PM
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Most men and women lie, especially with OLD. Working on becoming attractive is obvious. And it's not a good long term strategy. The only good long term strategy is to find someone you can build a good bound with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:06 PM
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Not really. Modern men kinda hate it because it usually means "no sex" and "almost no intimacy". Being the guy she accepts because she wasn't able to make it work with Chad sucks. You get all the responsibility with almost none of the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:11 PM
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Where I live? Already told you. The working Joe & Jane go out maybe once or twice a week and the rest is go home from work and watch Netflix or similar. Clubs are mostly filled with teenagers and college students. As for my person, I can't really drink too much and don't find going to clubs all that fun. Obviously have a job (well paid too). Before winter hit I cycled every day. So for me it would be a 100% change. It'd require me to enjoy things that I don't for starters. So other than working …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:24 AM
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You probably look good though. My own experience (with my own pictures) was that a profile without a job got a lot more matches than a profile with "programmer" or "software engineer" written down as a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:33 PM
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You're welcome to CMV. My experience says otherwise though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:24 PM
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Women hate nerdy men. Even If you're hot and nerdy it will still dock you points with many women. Also, software is abstract. Nerds who work in more *material* fields will do a bit better with women. Sure, some women will like nerds, but they're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:50 PM
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I'll agree with you that men should go to the gym and take care of their styling. But other than that, please WOW ME with your cool friends , fun activities and "decent" job. Tell me how socially outgoing and interesting you are. Bedazzle me with your ability to approach and **confidently** flirt with attractive girls. > this is like the most basic, easiest shit imaginable that you should be doing anyway. and you just want to whine about how it's sooooo much work Maan being an interesting dude w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:46 PM
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I kind of get where you're coming from, but most men don't really have the opportunity to have sex with that many slutty women for this to be a sticking point. Sure, if you bring prostitutes into the mix then yeah, most men wouldn't marry / have an LTR with a prostitute and do think that commitment is a gift to the woman they do end up with. But women don't think they are offering the beta guy a better deal. They often choose the beta guy because they don't feel safe with the alpha. For them, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:18 PM
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Refraining from sex until you find someone you trust and respect is quite feasible and beneficial. I did it. In theory I have nothing against your approach and find it commendable. But in practice things are not that easy. Many women are now dating multiple guys at the same time to see which pans out. Quite a few women are also a lot more prone to have sex early as a way of weeding out those who only want sex. For you to do that it would mean a period of dating someone exclusively for a good whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:00 PM
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Whores are hot and fun, while wife material girls are attractive and net meaningful relationships. You being able to say this assumes you're either already part of the minority of desirable men or having that knowledge. Unfortunately, a lot of guys don't have much of a say in who they end up married to (except, of course, refusing marriage entirely). Chads get to, for the most part, fuck the "sluts" and marry the "good women".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:20 PM
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Or in your mind, are they just fucked and should just accept their lot in life? That's what most women think about "loser" men basically. Women tend to be incredibly fatalistic and don't believe in self-improvement, after all the Greek Fates were all female. As do men raised by single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:14 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's stupid, it matters if it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:11 PM
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Some feminists think that's the spirit of the law: It's Okay to Call a Guy Creepy At the heart of the original legislation was the idea that sexual harassment was conduct that was "unwelcome" to those who were its targets. Desire mattered, Congress in essence declared. What is welcomed and enjoyed is, by definition, not harassment. And that's a very broad, feelings-centered, interpretation of the real law Facts About Sexual Harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:56 PM
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And it's OK now for people to be punished unfairly? The idea is to accept that errors do occur but also strive to minimize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:52 PM
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Yeah I forgot, they're all FBI agents
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:47 PM
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But we're all rootless strangers now. What are you really being ostracized from? Monkey brain not tell what change. Shame still same. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:42 PM
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31, never given they were all unrequited A lot of them would be dismissed here as infatuation but 6 times. Only one of them was what you'd consider "beautiful".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:36 PM
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I matters though. If you're Plan Z, you're basically betabux. Her hail mary to a lucrative divorce so she can get back to her old lifestyle. Even if she, in time, decides it's more profitable not to leave you, there will never be that pair bonding. At best you'll lover her a lot while she'll be amused with your expression of love. Here's the thing, the vagina might be elastic, but the soul is not. Getting sex from 30+ men, all better than you can ever be, will make SURE a woman can NEVER truly l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:28 PM
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Settling means giving up on some of your demands because you realize Father Time is also a factor. Mr. Right might never come so you go with Mr. Good Enough. But settling still presumes somewhat realistic standards. Women nowadays are, in their own eyes, settling down from Prince Charming. They're no longer settling for Mr. Good Enough but for Mr. Can't Wait To Divorce Him. Men's standards were never THIS audacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:26 PM
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No, believe me it has. A lot of men women would've considered "good dad material" for when they feel like settling 10 years ago are now seen as "complete losers". Maybe it's related to money, but I feel it's related to the fact that the dating market has gotten a lot fiercer and more men than ever before no longer meet the bare minimum to be allowed access to the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:21 PM
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how I can have as much casual sex as I want now that I'm single again That's the biggest joke of them all. Even the hottest guys get rejected fairly often. Getting in a relationship, sex and even dating are just a lot harder for men. And the more time passes the less likely you are to pair bond and manage a long marriage or even just LTR with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:16 PM
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They're settling, my god are they settling they're just marrying normal men. There aren't enough pie-in-the-sky men to go around even if harems were legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:11 PM
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Now-a-days they'll suck your dick on the way home from KFC. Sure if you're Chad / Tyrone. In practice, 20% of men are having 60% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:10 PM
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Chad already won the sex game. The question is how to avoid being women's Plan Z. Being Plan B ain't as good as being first choice but it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:08 PM
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Knocking out a guy in one punch is still seen as impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:06 PM
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Performing an action (sleeping with men who display traits of "toxic" masculinity) will have consequences. In this case, more men will start displaying "toxic" masculinity. Women don't view it necessarily as a reward, but OTHER MEN DO.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:00 PM
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I don't think my married friends are losers or cucks or whatnot for only being with their high school sweethearts I'd consider those guys LUCKY. But that's as rare as gold nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:58 PM
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By some standards yes. And by those standards I am *"worthless"*. I don't see myself as such. But in the end society dictates a lot about our lives that we have no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:55 PM
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Depending on how you define "a lot", yes. Not all men want to fuck 100+ women. But when the average woman has had 15-20 guys, expecting a guy who barely/never dated in his 20s to wife her up and spend his cash on her is madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:53 PM
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Most men can easily get what their pre-sexual revolution grandfather had. Just buy yourself a Philippine mail order bride. Until that too becomes ruined as the other east-Asian "escape routes" were. Also you need to move there too, otherwise you're just adding a new woman to Chad's harem. And what about nations that don't give you status just for existing as a couch-louse with an ID card ? It's less about feeling validated and more about not being cheated on. What's the point of marrying a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:52 PM
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They're not getting casual any sex, whereas in the past they could at least get a wife. FTFY The percentage of men women see as losers has also increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:46 PM
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Let's take a dude who is dissatisfied with the sexual marketplace because he can't get laid or even find a girlfriend. Presumably he is not against premarital sex since that's ultimately what he's looking for. He may not want kids. That's most unattractive men today. They never got their chance to experience teen & young adult love and now they are faced with an ultimatum: "wife up a baby rabies / single mom woman or remain sexless" Women can dress it up with as many layers of fake righteousness…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:35 PM
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Pretty much. And that's just to attract a haughty self-important woman from reddit. :))
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:26 PM
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get fit, don't wear retarded clothes or have a retarded haircut, have a decent job, be a socially outgoing and interesting person, have a decent social life with cool friends who do fun activities, and be able to approach and confidently flirt with attractive girls and you'll be in the magical top 20%. seriously that's all it takes. That's a whole fucking lot. That's like, literally another fucking life. Let's pick these off one-by-one: don't wear retarded clothes or have a retarded haircut This…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:24 PM
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Expecting Chad to snip his balls just so women get their fix of Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:13 PM
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will men with reasonable access to the sexual market voluntarily forego it? In time. When sex toys for men become as mainstream as dildos, even Chad will prefer a quick splurt in a silicone vag. instead of having to waste time *"charming"* some needy woman. They won't swear off women entirely, but a lot of true female incels / FA will start appearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:11 PM
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Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that way to women. For a woman mere friendship with an ugly man is torture unless they're "like brothers" (i.e. know eachother from very early childhood).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:08 PM
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I'd like to see the other "real" reasons too, outside the disappearance of the middle class. Yeah a big issue is a poor economy that leads to less interest in LTR & marriage (the prime traditional driver of reproduction for less attractive men). And for flings & hookups women prefer attractive men. But it's not like men aren't giving up on this too. Right now it's not much since most women still have a lot of thirsty chasers, but it will dry up pretty soon. Sex toys for men are becoming more "ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 04:06 PM
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Well women are getting pickier. Men are increasingly more shut-in. Their hobbies and jobs are increasingly female-repellant. There's only so many men who can work jobs women see as attractive AND high status, especially with women also competing for most of these jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:56 PM
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IT jobs and jobs involving working extensively with software/computers are increasing in numbers. Women absolutely HATE jobs where people have to work with software. That's another thing. How long CAN a LTR be when the woman honestly hates your job & hates most of your hobbies (esp. if they revolve around computers) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:54 PM
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My mom was Stacy in her youth and my dad was Chad yet I came out ... unappealing (ugly would be too much, TBH). My other siblings came out good looking though. Yeah a few kids are lucky and inherit a lot of Chad Dad. But most don't. And they're the ones fucked over by single motherhood (and cucked stepdads, let's not pretend they don't exist). If you're not Chad you have to compensate with power, social status, money, personality, etc. Plus you have to be OK with being second (or third, etc.) ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:29 PM
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I don't really see the "matriarchy" offer any more of an answer. Heck if anything I see the matriarchy wants, at the extreme, for all but the top 10-15% of desirable men to... just vanish. https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems And this is coming from women (feminists) who were pumped, dumped & abused (see Andrea Dworkin), not by incels or FA, but by Alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:33 AM
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So, Shia LaBeouf's distant ancestor ? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:29 AM
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You can go without indefinitely without health consequences, including mental health if you have the right perspective. You're saying that a person whose odds are ALREADY stacked against themselves should "have the right perspective" and just stop bothering normal people already. Let me rephrase what you said a bit: "One can live without companionship and no mental health consequences, just learn how to give up. Well, I didn't have to, but I'm not you. And besides, It's not MY problem you're sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:26 AM
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Eh, while women like that undoubtedly exist they are a VERY small minority. Women just aren't THAT thirsty. And women tend to seek turn-offs not turn-ons. That's why the second rule is "Don't be unattractive". Even Chad CAN fuck up if he plays his cards TOO fast & loose. OTOH yeah men can influence women into fucking them. It doesn't work reliably, but that's basically what PUA is: Making women who don't normally want to bed you, desire to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:28 PM
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Restraint about casual sex risks missing a little pleasure. You're talking about men who regularly go through dry spells of 4-6+ months. Most of them don't really care about consequences at that point if she's decent looking and DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:21 PM
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Well if you were 3 or 4 bc fat and lost it that's one thing. A lot of fat guys would get a huge boost from just weight loss + form-fitting clothes alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:19 PM
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That's why Tony Montana said money AND power. Yeah money alone doesn't help as it once did (see Notch of minecraft fame, is he still single BTW?)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:57 PM
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Technically, you could also feed a single 30 yo virgin to a homeless person. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:52 PM
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Yeah, ask me something and I'll answer it honestly. Unless it involves doxxing myself. Otherwise you'll have to explain it slower so the social idiot inside me can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:37 PM
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To be fair that IS the real pill. The GREEN PILL, Benjamins mothafucka, and LOTS of'em. At the end of the day, Tonny Montana's advice is EVERGREEN: FIRST, get the money SECOND, get the power AND finally, you will get the women With money AND power you can be butt-ugly and fuck women as good looking as like Milla Kunis, Ellen Paige, Gemma Arterton and Emma Watson on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:32 PM
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and will fake confidence and lie their way to whatever they are trying to get. How else are they supposed to do it? Just be themselves and stay single for life? It works for some men, sure, but most can't do it. They were either quite ugly outside (gym won't save them) Ugly girls with hot bodies exist. They'll just hook up with eachother. Gym is underrated. Women hate a man's gut a lot more than a lack of chin. It might be sexually attractive to some girls, but it doesn't last long. Still better…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:19 PM
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Michael Cera He'd be on ForeverAlone if he wan't famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:17 PM
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that a man showing any kind of affection towards kittens, say, or failing to murder all other men who come within a 100m radius of his woman = that man's sex life is dead forever. If only that weren't true. And women like it too. The man is doing this display FOR HER. Even if she's not 100% attracted it's gotta mean something. Alternately they play on women's natural human curiosity by trying to appear as a mystery that needs cracking (preferably by undoing his zipper and her legs).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:16 PM
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Women nowadays want a guy who's in this order: Good looking Charming Socially connected Rich Everything else is of lesser importance, including being a father, being a provider, being of good character, having discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:12 PM
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Wow you really got me with that one. I suppose I'm not. Never was a very good salesman, never really cared either. In the end it's not my money or time therefore not my loss. Not being good looking / starting from the position of a "loser" makes it doubly hard to convince people of anything anyway. After all, a good orator appeals mostly to feelings not the rational mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:07 PM
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Absolutely. But that assumes both parents are at least decent people with no heavy addictions (meth, coke, but alcohol can be pretty bad too) and a generally stable income. Otherwise we get... our current society. Which is better than what we had 200 years ago in many ways but that's mostly on technology and a few brave souls who risked a lot for their ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:03 PM
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LOL, whenever someone comes with a counter "That's just life for you, bro." Yeah that's life but the idea is to make it less shitty, not to find excuses to make segregationism palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:00 PM
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What to post about? Anything I'd want to discuss would be dismissed as autistic tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:59 PM
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If she's not having sex with you, and she isn't asexual, she's having it with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:58 PM
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An almost ideal partner would bother me. I'd pinch myself to see if I was dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:57 PM
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Like a loser. Oh now you really triggered me. :P Why would I not fail at nuance ? It's because of shit like this that men who are actual victims have "shut up and man up". "Man up bro, it was just a dick up your ass." Whenever women drop the ball it's suddenly a question of "nuance" and other such ethereal, non-quantifiable, interpretable concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:54 PM
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Exercising bodily autonomy is not illegal. Pissing in the middle of the street is technically "Exercising bodily autonomy". It's illegal. Same for having sex in the park. There are many ways of doing things to your own body, consensual ones even, that are illegal. Yeah, people often tell me I must be fun at parties. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:51 PM
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A lot of men WANT to LTR \ wife up bad girls (hoping the sex will be equally "bad"). But tit's not the men bad girls want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:49 PM
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Again, what does "actually creepy" mean ? I'm a bit autistic so when I'm not 100% focused my gaze can wander to wherever the fuck. Also people have told me, at times, it's like I'm looking through them. That makes me creepy in those moments I guess, but am I "actually creepy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:48 PM
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my Male adventure weekends need to be well orchestrated and around 6 a year max. Just get married, bro. Steady supply of sex, bro. A loving and understanding partner, bro. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:45 PM
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The trick is to know when to be there when it's important without being asked. Get that right and you can have as many male adventure weekends as you want. The trick is to be already desired. Knowing when to be there without being asked will still get you respect, but it's no guarantee of sex nor a relationship. You have to be desired AND play it cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:44 PM
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Being a bit of an asshole will, if not get you her pussy, at least get you her respect. Women absolutely hate a doormat. As for being a nice guy and doing favors, unless a woman sees that you do these favors regardless of age and beauty and ARE NOT looking for ulterior motives, she'll assume ulterior motives exist, cause they usually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:42 PM
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It’s caused me problems in the past and I know longer wish to partake. good luck convincing the thirsty not to drink. "I drank and it gives you stomach aches."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:39 PM
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If more men did this women would be less choosy too. But you're asking thirsty as fuck men not to drink. And jacking off doesn't compare to sex. Post-nut clarity works for some situations (cool off so your eyes won't wander at work or a social event) but not really for dating. So apparently men can’t vet their partners because only the top % of men have that luxury Also, yeah, pretty much. Only the top % of men and introverted autistic guys have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:37 PM
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What if creepy men become 20% of all men? Are you still OK? What about 30%? 40%? It's easy to want "creepy men" removed from society, after all your definition of creepy may well be reasonable. But every person has a slightly different definition of creepy. And it adds up. I mean as a society we should strive to make sure most of our members are productive and contributing. That's how we get prosperity, not by dividing people into unbreakable cliques. Even the "american dream" as unattainable as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:33 PM
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This is tough because currently we worship youth in our culture. Shit, you should look at Japan (heck most of SE Asia) to see real cultural youth worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:28 PM
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I think men need to solve themsevles first before they start getting all pissed or hot and bothered about women or society. I think non-Alphas need to magically transform into Alphas ("I don't care how, it's not MY problem after all") before we allow them participation in society with full rights (in addition to full responsibilities). "Just pull yourself by your bootstraps, bro." "Just get good at swimming by climbing this tree repeatedly, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:25 PM
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You mean like being orally raped by older boys? Or being ganged on and viciously beaten? What about being chased by mature men with their dicks hanging out? Is that enough victim for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:23 PM
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Is dangerously close to victim mentality, and unless your about to marry a single mother, they shouldn't even be on your radar. Shit, man / lady. I mean don't revel in blaming the circumstances but don't act like > 30% of moms being single moms doesn't affect the kids one bit. Crappy circumstances don't just go away because time passed. They leave deeply rooted scars. Tell a young boy that his mom isn't educating him to be a real man, who's he more likely to believe? Especially if the young boy …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:21 PM
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Men in NA have nothing to complain about at work Maybe guys who do office work have nothing but 1st world problems, but many US workers still have very shit conditions. And illegal immigrants working for below min. wage also have shit conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:18 PM
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I misread. Sure you can play devil's advocate if you want. As long as it's an exercise and not an actual position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:13 PM
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Well that's kind of the point of AWALT. It's not that literally ALL women are like that. But a very large (and possibly > 50%) statistically significant slice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:12 PM
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How is it so? Most homeless men are white and over-represented. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555855/number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us-by-race/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:11 PM
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in china, there are literally billions of worthless dudes who work shit jobs Why call them worthless though. The women who work in the same workshops would be just as "worthless" by your own expression. While men do outnumber women in China by a solid 5,000,000 it's not like most women there live in the lap of luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:10 PM
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Be feminist and/or a social justice warrior, and your problems will be solved! Well they sort of are solved. You are tolerated and ignored. They're just not solved in a way that most men feel comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:09 PM
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They won't we'll get more toxicity, more toxic sex, more manginas, more incels, more herbivore men and more cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:44 PM
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They're trying to sell razors Well I'm not buying Gillette anymore. :)) Once the last 3 are used up I'm going with BiC or Wikinson
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:42 PM
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The boys in the Gillette commercial weren't even fighting it was just roughhousing. At least show real bullying FFS. Then again it's a cucked commercial for a cucked band. Gillette: The best a CUCK can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:41 PM
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Yeah also a metropolis. 3,000,000 ppl living here. As for supply, women are in oversupply in this particular city (est 100,000 more women than men), just incredibly picky. My therapist is a decently fit, very tall guy and his wife is 5'2 and fat. One of my coworkers, again 5'11, fit. His wife is 5'5 and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:33 PM
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Eastern Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:32 PM
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"creep shaming" is basically a scalpel for narcissistic women to use against ANY interactions with men they deem "unworthy" of their "delightful" presence. TBH the majority of women don't overuse it YET
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:29 PM
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but I've heard arguments for it that were reasonably skillfully conducted. Any interest? I've heard "reasonably skillfully conducted" arguments in favor of eugenics and genocide. What exactly is morally wrong about being asked out by a guy who's just unattractive. As long as he's not harassing the woman or obnoxious. Next up we open a slippery slope that ANY interaction exceptionally unattractive people initiate is morally wrong simply because it will offend someone. Do you really want a lookist…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:27 PM
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well then adapt your behavior. Well then, men are adapting their behavior. They are becoming "herbivores", FA or going MGTOW. You got what you wanted, just not in the way you wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:23 PM
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It’s really just a power play and form of bullying from thots Not really, they just aren't attracted to the guys. Especially young girls only want the top 15-20% of boys. Preferably older than they are. Older women relax their standards a bit, but only because the realities of life force them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:22 PM
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i don't get why men care so much about being callled creepy Well because, recently, in Europe you can be fined and even arrested (3 days jail time & 800 euro fine) if a police officer catches you in the act and the woman feels harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:20 PM
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Is hitting on a stranger in public at all creepy (assuming the initiator ends the advance upon being declined)? Only if the guy is unattractive in the eyes of the woman. If he's attractive and she's taken or not interested she'll decline in a fun way, they'll both joke about it and be on their way. Maybe she'll even say "but if I'm ever single again, give me a call" jokingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:18 PM
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I know I won't change your view, but most creep shaming takes place before a man interacts with a woman. Making moves on a woman who isn't interested in you: if a woman rejects you and you cant move on and you're still pestering her, you deserve to be shamed. Asking nudes from women you never met before: if you're into online dating and you ask women for nudes before you even go on a date with her, then yes you deserve to be creep shamed. Except this is literally sexual harassment. Sending unsol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 06:14 PM
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No but complicated shit can happen to them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:43 PM
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Many are polyandrist or "open". And not enough to compensate for even close to all undesirable men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:42 PM
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You dodged a bullet don't be sorry. If you're not model looking computer science is the end of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:38 PM
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The moment you REALLY DGAF
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:36 PM
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But it may be lower, if I was stood holding a drink at chest height with my back against the wall looking anxious. Hello mirror my old friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:34 PM
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What lol, where I live the woman is less attractive in 95% of cases. I see male model looking guys with fat women at least thrice a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:31 PM
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Correction, looksmatch is a blackpill desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:29 PM
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Shit true dat. Redpill is for 5 & 6 (and some 7s). Sub 5 guys are fucked. Feminist polyandrist landwhale at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:28 PM
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If you're still a single virgin by 30 your SMV is lower than a dead duck on the sidewalk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:27 PM
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The thot is complicated too just in simple, different ways. Most of her problems are easier to solve but she generally lacks the resources or capacity (brain fried by & drugs/booze/party)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:23 PM
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Yet nice women are desired while nice men are not. Crazy women are desired too. Even fat and ugly women are desired. The only way a woman can't get "even just sex" is to literally shut themselves inside. Yeah I know women don't generally want just sex esp not from the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:21 PM
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behaviors/attributes I deliberately maintain Bullshit, if you're a hot and generally decent guy women will excuse almost any "small" mistake. And the same goes for men too. Also faux pas aren't deliberate by their own nature. But then again women are more about turn-offs than turn-ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:16 PM
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They're things that real people do because they value the relationship, they value having a hand to hold. Because beta males aren't real people, don't value relationships and having a hand to hold... Oh wait! Most RP & PUA end up like that because they are rejected by most if not all of the women they approach. "Just wait until she's lived her whole romantic life out and needs a sentient ATM, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:13 PM
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Alpha is for the most part born not made. But a single mom can reeducate her alpha by birth son into a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:40 PM
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Basically it's a moot question. Women don't care. As long as they are OK without long-term commitment, there seem to be enough shredded men to satisfy most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 04:03 AM
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It's more a case of sunken cost fallacy. Nobody wants to have to face such facts head on. Imagine having to realize the career you spent 10 years building is practically useless to your realization as a biological human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:43 AM
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Similar to women's projection regarding status and career? Besides as a man If you think it's your intelligence getting you laid you're either naive or a social genius. And the second is highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:11 PM
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Biggus Simpuss
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/19 10:54 AM
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That has nothing to do with competency. It CAN be a factor but there's plenty of hands on dudes who still have a hard time dating. Most important is attractiveness and then charm. Everything else is secondary
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 09:03 AM
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Well if nothing else works he can brute force his way to dating success. A lot of men don't really get the option either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:57 AM
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I went on a date with a guy like this, so beautiful, but so dull. Got him a foot in the door. Better than a lot of men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:36 PM
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Hey if it works out for you, more power to you. I wouldn't advise the average man to try this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:56 PM
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It's not about the weight, it's about the unaesthetic gut. If a guy is a bit fat but doesn't have a hanging gut it doesn't matter as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:53 PM
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No point getting ripped if you have the social awareness of a mop. Why not? Being healthy & good looking has its benefits beyond dating. The idea is to encourage men to better themselves for themselves, not to go on a diet of chicken breasts & lifting heavy weights so they can find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:52 PM
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Do what your intuition tells you. Go to the gym then go home and fap to porn :P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:51 PM
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If you can yes, any experience dating is good experience (just watch out for STDs). Maybe you can even meet someone you feel a good connection with. But for most men who need to do it, they can't really date while improving their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:50 PM
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Yeah it works if you're a Chad. But for most men, "opening up" is basically "goodbye sex" and in a few months/years "goodbye wife".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:56 PM
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Boys Will Be Boys Will Be Boys Will Be Boys... :P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:53 PM
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polyamory might be a viable lifestyle Only if you're basically FWB, otheriwse one of the men involved with the woman will be "the dumb ox who pays for it all" while she's having fun with multiple guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:49 PM
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Ah, OK... I have no idea what to say other than good luck and hopefully you can find a way out that's to your linking. I'm a programmer doing the classic 9-6. The pay's decent but there's little time for anything outside work & sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:42 PM
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What occupies me now is mostly diet along with the gym. So... what exactly do you do for a living and when the heck do you find time to sleep? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:25 PM
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Yes because most women only really like a very small number of men who are, generally, either already taken, players or gay. Where's the oops? Sometimes you have to take what you can get or remain single. And if, for the average woman, dating the average man is that bad of a prospect maybe some introspection is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:16 AM
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Also value transference means being a middle man. And right now our culture's side effect is getting rid of as many middle men as we can. It also means there's some form of value to be transferred. Which can't exist without people to create that value. Well, not for long, eventually the bubble bursts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:15 AM
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how about a more... expanded explanation? why do even attractive guys get their value lowered by being nerds. what is so "unattractive" in a man because he's particularly passionate about maths or computers instead of, say, music or acting?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:12 AM
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So basically keep on trying while the trying is still good and if it doesn't work out in the end, tough shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:29 PM
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But he's right. Even though he's exaggerating most men HAVE TO WORK HARD to get even that first date in. Meanwhile all a woman has to do to date is say "Yes". Very few men have the luxury of being able to line up, say, a date every, say, 3 weeks until he meets a woman who seems right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:27 PM
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Being in a deadbedroom relationship while still under 40 is not all that different from being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:24 PM
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making other people responsible for your emotions. telling people things about you they're uncomfortable with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:17 PM
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feminism wants WEAK men to show emotion so they can filter them out more easily. It's just another shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:15 PM
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LOL just man up bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:44 PM
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“IT nerds” are just normal guys, if a bit smarter and well off. Women don't think so tho....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:41 PM
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go to the gym 3 times a week, do jiu jitsu 2 times a week, like playing the piano and reading books... Wish I had your time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:40 PM
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Why can't men appreciate good-natured, sweet, giving swamp-donkeys Because swamp-donkeys want Chad or something as close as possible to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:38 PM
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In medicine probably surgeon Engineering and programming are actual work Being a SURGEON IS A LOT OF WORK. One of my HS pals is a neurosurgeon and he's swamped in bureaucracy when he's not at the operating table.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:36 PM
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To most redditor women no. But go to states like Arkansas, Wyoming even Ohio, and it's a good status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:34 PM
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say literally what you do I design and create new features in a bunch of programs. And fix bugs. But at least I didn't say I'm a programmer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:33 PM
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I'd love to downvote you but, unfortunately you're right. As more jobs get "taken over" by nerdy men women start seeing those jobs as low status regardless of money. Still why is being a nerd a negative? An average looking guy who's also a nerd has his SMV reduced to nothing and even for a hot guy it lowers his SMV a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:32 PM
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Lawyers, CEOs, medium business owners, bankers (depends) and SOME medical professions. Also musicians and actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:29 PM
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Tell that to Notch of Minecraft fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:27 PM
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Software Engineer at <Important Company but you never heard of it cause it's not Google or Facebook> :))
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:27 PM
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If asked what you do, are you enthusiastic about it. Or do you already believe it makes you low value so behave low value. People think I'm autistic when I tell them about my job as a programmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:25 PM
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who are often more fun and fuckable than an office drone Sorry my circumstances didn't get the memo. I'm now an office drone. Bleep Blop.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:23 PM
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Negative stereotypes are inwardly focused OK, so what if I'm inwardly focused? my drug dealer Good on you no judging. I'd just rather not do drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:22 PM
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Is this guy a beta just because he enjoys programming so he does it for a profession? LOL sorry but yes. Unless he's a Chad who's interested in programming (basically Pietro Boselli) programming as a job cuts a man's SMV in half
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:19 PM
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About male sex robots. What do you guys think? What happens when men, 70% of which are overweight or obese, and who knows what percentage can't even perform anymore due to pornography addiction, have to compete with a Chadbot? Have fun! Maybe we can trade sexbots to mix things up a bit. Hey maybe future Chadbots can artificially inseminate and be upgraded with dad packages? A woman can dream. Doesn't mean it will happen. So what happens when women all opt out of the female plantation and get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:15 PM
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Also pro domme sub in bed... classic The classic fierce domme for betabux - quaint sub for Chad dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:12 PM
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I know all the kinks in the book of Hand Solo. But I stopped short of autoerotic asphyxiation .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:09 PM
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I'd wager it's a mix of "normal" personality (i.e. relatively boring with a few blips now and again) and below average looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:16 PM
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Both about the same, but in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:14 PM
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Real men get pegged by their wives!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:13 PM
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Do young people feel pressured to have sex? Only if their partner is ugly. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 09:11 PM
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Where's my Badboy-Doormat-Babysitter-ATM combo?
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 08:53 AM
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I mean a woman who keeps the condom to try and inseminate herself with.... you can figure it out. Or alternately women who tell men they are infertile or on birth control and allergic and thus persuade the man there's no need to use a condom. It doesn't happen incredibly often, but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:54 PM
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I mean women who steal condoms. And if an adult woman has "consensual" sex with an underage boy and a kid pops out, the boy's family has to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:01 AM
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Millionaires in the 50s weren't mostly stock based. For most of them they don't have a traditional income. I absolutely agree the state should be better at collecting taxes and covering loopholes, but you can't say "just tax the rich more". Not under the current system
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:00 AM
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Lol what does taxed properly mean? 90%? It's ultimately mostly in shares. I. E. company money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:18 PM
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Some dude who forgot a thumb drive full of possibly illegal porn at a restaurant would have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:16 PM
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we have no laws to differentiate between stuff like sperm hunters, private arrangements (dropper or "natural insemination), statutory rape of a young male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:10 PM
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Does Jeff Bezos have children? Why did he not get custody? As for the rest if the father wanted to have the child yes he should pay. But we have no laws to differentiate between sperm hunters, private arrangements, statutory rape of a young boy and misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 05:06 PM
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Many women's lives are pretty bland, in general. And it all comes down to the diff. in physical strength. A woman needs to be a "casual athlete" to compare in strength with a couch potato man that goes to the gym just twice a week. So these men give her an adrenaline boost. The guy is basically something she could never be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:49 AM
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IDK, most of these douches usually have something that makes them rare (therefore desirable): they're either tall, or skinny or blonde, blue or green eyes. Even if they don't look like models, they're not "average". They're not high value socially sure. But some of them can be high value "underground".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:46 AM
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This woman loved this guy so much she made herself a slave for him, and I doubt he asked her for that. Also, the idea is it's easier to go for men not at the very top, it doesn't mean to go for someone at the very bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:43 AM
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Well shit, don't feel depressed, 50-60% of men are in the same bucket. Most men just aren't very desirable. A lot of normie men started dating in their 20s and marry the first or second women they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:40 AM
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You call people spergs and robots and expect a "thank you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:07 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:05 PM
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uhh... you can only have a limited number of men in the top 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:05 PM
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But then the researchers made some tweaks to the test. In some cases, they rewrote a question so it was about a person rather than an object. In other cases, they noted in the instructions that this was a type of social intelligence test that women tend to do better at than men. Just change the rules of the test and BAM women are winners. Ehh... I'm too tired to argue. Hopefully women will keep on having a bias against and avoid jobs where these skills are needed. Ultimately it's what happens IR…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 03:09 PM
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Because weird men are like robots. They walk up to women and say "would you like to pursue sexual congress bleep bloop [Y/n]?" Who the fuck actually does that? No, honestly! I mean the closest to that I ever came was asking a girl from HS if she wanted to go out with me to see a movie. Your average "robot" IS clumsy with flirting, his eyes are too intense, he takes things too literally, or it seems like he's looking through you. But that's AT WORST. They're not like us humans who like cheesy sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 03:03 PM
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by convinving them that they are below average freaks and outliers 7/10 is what women see as the average man If you are < 7/10, as far as women are concerned you are not sexually attractive and she needs extra incentives to consider dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:48 PM
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"omg I'm so unique look at me" INTP broads vs INTP incels/FA/TFL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:45 PM
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they tend to be kinda misogynistic. A lot of the guys here feel slighted by women whether justifiably so or not. I'm 51% misogynistic and 49% misandrist. The only reason it's not the other way around is because, ultimately, women are those who select their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:41 PM
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They can't. The only thing a partner can do is listen. That's the only thing they can guarantee do for you. They can't make existence not hurt. They can't solve depression. They can't teach you to be a better person. They can't give you better memories or protect you from bad things happening. The comfort a partner offers is sometimes just having another sane person keep you company while you suffer. I've noticed that a lot of the time, people find this dissatisfying and get mad regardless, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:37 PM
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Why do you need to call people weird? If someone is making you uncomfortable just tell them to back off and be on your way. Unless someone is insistent on making you feel uncomfortable why resort to name calling and aggression? Most weird people don't like being weird anymore than you do. I'm a weird guy and when my self awareness kicks in I generally back off on my own. Why should I have to endure extra torment from cruel asshats? I already self-censor and self-police my own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:32 PM
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So basically *"dark unicorns"* (unicorns but for all the bad reasons) who get snapped up by guys *"in the know"*. Also, I lived through HS too, and yeah there were quite a few girls dating older guys who were drug dealers. But here I'm talking about your average guy who has a hard time getting dates, who has a normal 9 to 5 job, a basic car, a basic house (or basic rent). Wanna bet your *" women who were born in bad situations and feel lucky to be chosen by someone"* would reject and brush off t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:28 PM
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Her story in greater detail is meant as a narrative of how someone can come through and ruin your life and there's nothing you can do about it. Yet PPD's favorite pastime is blaming the victim for being bullied and autistic men for being born that way by calling them "spergs" and "robots".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:19 PM
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A European woman in the 1790s with an illegitimate child was a pariah. Her life went to shit because it couldn't have gone any other way. A woman today with the same kind of situation (an "illegitimate" child) is no longer pariah. But most of them are alpha widows. I know because I've seen this first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:12 PM
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Alpha Widow as I understand it is a woman who's been in relationships with very desirable men and has internalized that all men she dates must rise up to at least that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:09 PM
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Feminist women love GOOD LOOKING toxically masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:08 PM
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Women can believe what they want to believe. TBH, I'm getting kind of sick of all this RP. Not that i'm going back to BP. It's just that many women need to realize that, if they just can't make themselves try to have a relationship with a guy outside the top 20-30%, they'll end up single for life. Yes they'll be able to date eligible men for 2-3-4 maybe 6 months. But the guy will never commit. OTOH many men also need to realize women's standards have gone up and they're not coming back down (bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:02 PM
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No, not really. Believe me, most all women want a guy they perceive as high value. Some of them are able to compromise, or they cheat on the side, or they're sick of dating bad boys (usually means a sexless relationship with Mr. Beta). That doesn't mean they have low standards, just that they realized it's time for Plan Z. Again, if you had a hard time dating in the latter part of high-school but especially in your 20's you didn't suddenly become hotter at 30. It's just that women decided to set…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:54 PM
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its almost as if beta men don’t exist To many women beta males are just sentient human-shaped automatons. Emotional attachment and loyalty exist for men too. Yeah but they can't form in the blink of an eye like most late 30s - early 30s women want to. Assuming they even ALLOW the beta male to date them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:48 PM
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So why date at all? Very good question. For most men it's mostly biology pushing them to date. If women past 30 really are so intolerable then men shouldnt be dating for the long term just fucking and chucking 20 somethings everytime they can upgrade for younger. Don't be a total asshat, as women grow older they accumulate more baggage, as do men (yes even TFL and FA men). If you like a woman and think you can handle her baggage, nobody is stopping you from dating her or telling you not to. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:46 PM
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all the low quality potential mating partners who don't understand flirting and sperg out like a confused robot. You're a piece of shit. Go gently caress yourself around the block. OP said absolutely nothing to warrant this sort of response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:38 PM
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Basically you need the humility to realize you’re kind of blind or lacking facility in a very common human process, and think of that as something internal you need to deal with. It’s you, not other people.m Please stop blaming non-neurotypical people for not being neurotypical. This whole idea about humility is disgusting, implying he's on some kind of lower station and has to bow his head in deference. Normal people aren't God to deserve this kind of deference just for being born normal, okay?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:32 PM
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PUA is for guys who look decent but are too beta or lack game. If you're a soft-spoken guy, with ~30% body fat and beta or autistic behaviors, PUA WON'T WORK for you. To have PUA work, you have to look AT LEAST as good as Neil Strauss did back in 2006-2007. That means shave the fat, but most importantly, SHAVE THE GUT. A bulging gut is one of the worst rated features by all women (yes even obese women don't want to date men with a gut). Go to a doctor, find out what you need to change in your di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:30 PM
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They always date dudes that I can tell inside of 5 minutes that they're scum and it's not going to change without someone putting the hammer down on his ass, at which point for doing so I am labeled as the bad guy and ostracized for being "mean" to a dude who basically belongs in jail. Yeah these women love the Meeks' of the world. Worst part is, after he inevitably leaves her, she's now Alpha Widowed to the n-th degree and a dead end in terms of LTR potential for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:22 PM
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I believe this happens IRL, and it also happens in reverse. The guy paid for her studies, she got her diploma and moved outside the country then married a foreign wealthier man. The lesson here is: DATE & MARRY IN YOUR LEAGUE. A lot of men (and more recently women) go for a MUCH hotter SO and offer him \ her all kinds of support. Then, when the SO gets bored of the relationship they have a much easier time monkey-branching to a new relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:20 PM
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Why would I want to “build an empire” with anyone? I want the man who loves me at his prime, not when he’s at his lowest point. The case you wrote about is horribly tragic. The big issue I see in your story though is that the "26 year old nurse" here, relegated herself to a second plane, without the husband ever asking for that from her. Here's the point though. It's not just about building an empire, it's about having the man develop "wife goggles" for you. If you want a man who loves you after…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:04 PM
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Yeah, there aren't enough younger women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 07:32 AM
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If you feel you need someone else sunlight and fresh air to be happy, sorry for your loss. FTFY, since comparing relationships to food and water is frowned upon here. Still, since I never had a relationship I have no idea if it would make me happy or not. And now I'm questioning existence. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 07:29 AM
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virtue signaling. also "you must first love yourself" bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:50 AM
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Overdoing most things is miserable. I was thinking like a woman - just as shallowly and solipsisticly. I was objectifying women like women do men. That’s what happens when you have options and thus don’t have to develop an appreciation for others’ beings, as opposed to solely appreciating whatever utility they bring you. I appreciate women as people and offer basic courtesy. Other than that, I mostly appreciate people as much as they appreciate me. The vast majority of women have nothing to offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:48 AM
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Koreans don't practice FGM either... An, again I have nothing against traditional cultural practices as long as they don't involve physical harm (esp without consent) or possible spread of disease
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:39 AM
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Who says I'm not? But talking to a therapist doesn't make that much of a difference. A therapist is at best a friend for pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:36 AM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:30 AM
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It's easier to check a native's background
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:26 AM
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well I had my circumstances you had yours. mine just made me undateable. One thing I didn't mention was all those girls rejected me. :) I also haven't dated anyone in 11 years. it's crazy how you guys see experiencing life as some kind of moral failing I saw it more as a lack of self-control than a moral failing. Then again I've never been the guy women lust after.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:24 AM
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Is saying "a statistically significant portion of women are like that" better ? ASSPWALT :P Yeah, it's not very scientific, but it's also seen as pretty sexist to make studies in this field. So what little studies we have end up being pedestalized. Fact is, a lot of the women who are "like that" eventually wake up. But it's too little, too late as men have wised up too. Whereas before a 5 or 6/10 could get away with partying all her teens, 20s and most of her 30s and find a nice, successful beta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:25 PM
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chicks go for rebels the same way we go for hot crazy. Funny thing is feminist ones do that too. Andrea Dworkin herself went for a literal rebel who abused her (surprise, surprise?) in her youth. And I personally never went for hot crazy. Maybe lusted after hot crazy a few times, but never did anything about it. But all the girls I asked out were mostly cute-ish ones which I felt we had a lot in common. The one time I asked out a goth chick was way back in HS. And even she wasn't really "hot".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:15 PM
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I mean if women only have kids with Mr. "Penetravi, Euadit, Reliquit" C(had)aesar. Of course there are only two hands available. How many stupid men do you think there are to rope into raising a whole family of kids not his own?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:52 PM
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It is irrelevant how many kids a given man has. Realistically, a desirable man can impregnate a few dozen women directly in his lifetime. Hundreds if he donates to a sperm bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:49 PM
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simply because the phenomenon of complaining about fertility rates while not raising any kids yourself is purely male I can't make children on my own. Believe me I tried. Buttfucking yourself as a man doesn't result in pregnancy. And 99% of men wanting to adopt are denied where I live. Because of fear of pedos mostly. So you can "adopt" a 16-18 yo male who will steal from your house to buy drugs because he was a street rat when he was put in the orphanage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:45 PM
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To my knowledge, the only men who are worried and complain about low fertility are conservative, right-leaning white men. I don't know of any Black, Latino, Arab or Asian men worried about low fertility. You should ask go Japan and China :) And Western Europe, where, even taking immigration into account, fertility is STILL negative :) It has something to do with women being the gate-keepers of reproduction Unless you're OK with limiting women's freedom for the sake of reproduction, WOMEN ARE the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:39 PM
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I'd be pretty dumb to dredge up a fight from years ago right now just because hindsight turned out to be 20/20.... The same is true for a job. Imagine hiring an immigrant. He does a great job for 6 years until you find out he was in prison for theft and hurting a security guard 12 years ago. Most businesses will fire the guy out of fear. Sure but relationships are a whole different animal than "everything else". Why? If the past is the past shouldn't it be treated similarly in ALL areas of life?…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:33 PM
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Hollywood's Grey Area - Bill Maher
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:25 PM
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Draw a circle Draw the rest of the fucking owl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:21 PM
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Just read "Bravo" magazine for your dating advice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:21 PM
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I'd rather be with a 7/10 who's mentally stable and doesn't cause problems than a 10/10 who acts like a damn child all the time. Try being the average man and having to choose between a "just bipolar" 3/10 and a "batshit insane" 5/10. Or try being a 4/10 man and having "bailout a mentally ill single mom on welfare" as your only option for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:19 PM
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I restricted myself to only dating the “hottest” women when I was an extremely insecure young man with very little understanding of myself, the world, and what made me happy. Hi Chad! The simple fact you had the option of doing this puts you leagues above most men. I had the “right” genes and a decent enough social pedigree that I could be very picky, so constantly found myself with women that everyone else thought were super “hot,” and had the primo social pedigrees but bored or annoyed me to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:14 PM
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To be fair their standard for pure looks decreases, but everything else increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:13 PM
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Eligible men wait that long because they can. Besides they're too busy riding the pussy roller-coaster. Non-eligible men are waiting that long simply because no woman wants them until they become either desperate or exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:10 PM
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A 30 something woman doesn't hope for the best anymore and wants those things upfront. Even though she has, generally, less to offer a man (esp. an eligible man) than a 20 something woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:59 PM
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Sure there's no point in arguing. And sometimes you even get lucky and the person turns out to have learned their lessons. I was just pointing out that people who say "the past is the past" in the context of romantic love, sex and relationships are hypocrites. Because outside of that the past is almost never in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:57 PM
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Oh Kay El Oh El
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:42 PM
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If she really did. :) The problem with many of these women is they never do. I should know as I grew up around them. FOMO is a very real thing for a lot of these women as is envy of younger women. And I've seen both "sluts" relapse as well as "good women" deciding to divorce their BB and get in a few rides on the CC before clocking 40. Unless you're alpha and have your shit together tighter than a constipated soldier, marriage is a BIG risk for men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:41 PM
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Would you say "the past is the past" if you were a hiring manager and you had the resume of a man who was, in the past, convicted of robbery? Being a McCuck applies to both sexes. I've seen plenty of women forgive a pretty face his "youthful" indiscretions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:32 PM
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Unless a woman was held at gunpoint or threatened with a beating I see no reason to go with your instincts and date the badboy drug dealer, thinking he'll act differently because "it's you". Every woman who goes for a 3rd, 4th, etc. badboy BF deserves, in part, what she's going through. If you can't stand nice guys, just stay single. Or stop complaining about how your 5th asshole boyfriend is an asshole. "I want to date nice men but I always end up going for the bad boys"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:42 PM
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Women who still do "youthful indiscretions" at 29 :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:38 PM
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the past is the past T. McCuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:36 PM
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Some people will try to say ''But you won her!!'' Most people will try to say that. In truth you "won" exactly what you deserve. Men who go after women out of their league deserve every bit of their own suffering from these 30 something settling alpha widows. If you didn't have at least one serious LTR by 25 as a man, you're not suddenly more attractive. Women have just gotten desperate enough they will now date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:33 PM
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2016/04/160414145214_1_540x360.jpg 75% of moms give birth BY 30. About 11-13% of women are childless. Please lol some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:29 PM
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Nope, I'm suggesting most single women 30 something women willing to date the average Redditor male are obese single moms on welfare or somewhere around there. But the average single 30 year old woman is quite likely to be either obese (especially in the US) or a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:20 PM
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Don't compare with medieval times. Compare it with Imperial Rome during the Late Republic. Or Athens before the Peloponnesian Wars. Beta men suffered a similar fate then. During the medieval era, women depended a lot more on men so they had to choose between marrying a beta man or risking death and disease. Throughout history women have preferred cads over dads when their survival no longer strictly depended on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:08 PM
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You can be just that ugly. He could probably land himself a sea lion of a woman, but no self respecting man wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:03 PM
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pngmafia97 is just trying to blame men and shame them for not "manning up" and pulling their selves by their bootstraps. Not understanding just how much a shitty childhood & adolescence can ruin you ("but it happened so long ago!") will do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:55 PM
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With regard to (1), certainly it is possible for alpha males to have been raised with little to no male role models. Do you disagree? About as possible as becoming a rocket scientist by struggling to study using a gas lamp in abject poverty. It happens but it's so rare that we pedestalize these people. Yes alpha men can sometimes grow without male guidance, but it's rare (having an 5-6 year older guy as a friend willing to teach you still counts as male guidance, even if your mom is single). So …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:53 PM
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Single moms + weak genetics + autism (or other mental issues).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:45 PM
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Thanks for the Reddit Virtue Signaling, kind stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:36 PM
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Because women cry about being single a lot more than men do. Even though, unlike men, they're more likely to be single by choice ("I feel no chemistry with the men who do give me attention."). When men are single, they're ACTUALLY single, not "two-dates-a-week single". And no I don't really like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:32 PM
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If becoming jaded towards men and demanding is normal self worth, good luck being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:20 PM
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Repeat after me. Therapy does not cure autism. Some autistic people can PRETEND to be normal by matching the closest they know and going for a learned pre-canned reaction. But at their most vulnerable the mask WILL slip and crack. I know because I am one of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:12 AM
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Good luck finding a "good man" in your 60s who's willing to double down. Especially since you no longer hold sway over his little head at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:09 AM
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They're anecdotal stats. I grew up in Eastern Europe and saw a lot of women act around men. Being an autistic weirdo made me "invisible" to women so I got to hear and see things a lot of men don't notice first hand too often. Unless she's undesirable & desperate, a woman in her 30s will, in general, get a small boost in maturity and relax her standards A BIT.But in exchange she'll demand the man own a large home, have/buy a spare car for her, be rich AND have a RESPECTABLE(*) career. A woman in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:05 AM
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Hey that's good on you. My preferred rule is +- 4 years because that's where your generational "peers" are most likely to be found. > No, I'm not retarded like OP and believe that I have more to offer at 30 than I do at 20. Some women DO have more to offer at 30 than 20, just not most women. It's the reverse for men as they have more to offer at 30 than they did at 20. > When I was 15, and my friends were lusting over 22 year olds And when I was 15, about 1/4 of the girls in my high school dated…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:57 AM
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Holy shit the lenience women get! All those women deserved to remain single for life. They jump on countless dudes while they're young, make puppy eyes at 35+ and find a sexless, thirsty moron willing to take them in and clean up after them. And after they rebound, they go back to playing "jumping (on) Jack ('s dick)" with Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:44 AM
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Only if you're already a guy with options. There are many upsides to dating older women. But you have to be desirable. If you're a beta male, you might as well aim for the impossible. At least you get to keep the dream alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:41 AM
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Sexual acts that were once off the table will gladly be accepted with gusto as she tries to please you and earn her keep Hahaha good one She will view you as her Chad. Only if you're already Chad. The only way a woman will view the average 30 something Redditor as a Chad is if she's a chronically single, obese, blue-haired feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:40 AM
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I never understood this. Women get fucked. They get seduced. They're at the receiving end. If the chemistry isn't there, or she doesn't feel like she can open up sexually, then that's on the guy that means the guy is unattractive. I never understand why women blame men for being unattractive. Some men are just born with bad luck in the looks department. An ugly man will still be ugly even if he wears Ralph Lauren or Hugo Boss and has a nice haircut & great hygiene. Beyond taking care of himself …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:34 AM
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Is someone important making this claim? Why does it have to be someone important? Women in their 30s as a group are seeing the men they want (also in their 30s) are dating younger women and this annoys them. They're left only with undesirable men who no woman wants to date. Pretty much all women who say "where are all the good men" will also say "I do get attention but it's only from men I don't feel any chemistry with".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:30 AM
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emotional maturity hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:26 AM
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So for the average man here "Having a partner in the same stage of life as you with closer aligned priorities, financial situation etc." is a woman who has kids from previous relationships, baggage, is jaded towards men and hates their hobbies ? Yeah I guess they're both in the same age range, but being single is preferable to being in a relationship with a woman who needs a bailout and free nanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:14 AM
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As a 31 year old man I have nothing in common with obese single moms living on welfare. Unless you want to count me not being fit as something "in common".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:10 AM
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So as a 22 yo you'd date a 29 year old man but not a 30 year old one. XD Basically you're either lying (and you have dated 30+ yo men) or setting up an artificial barrier to sit on and feel morally justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:40 AM
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more adult Please don't mix up being jaded because she chose to date assholes for half her adult life with being a responsible adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:38 AM
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It's mostly about shared experiences other men paid for :) I.E by the time she's 32 she wants to have tried everything from scuba diving to skydiving and bungee (preferably, paid for by other men). She wants to have the same life experiences as Chad, hoping that will make 30 y.o. Chad want to stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:34 AM
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Sorry, this is absolutely projection. As you grow up you'll see it yourself: You'll become more demanding. You'll "discover yourself" and settle into things that make you comfortable refusing to go out of that zone for the sake of your SO. Your body will also lose some of its muscle tone and flexibility, it's just the normal effect of aging. You'll become more jaded towards men. You'll resent men who don't match your ideas of what experiences a man your age has to have gone through. Basically yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:29 AM
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Can you use a more realistic hypothetical scenario? Autistic men in STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:20 AM
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Friendship is just a bonus. Most relationships develop after the man and the woman have barely known each-other. The idea that most successful relationships somehow follow a multiple year long friendship is just bullshit. My cousin started dating her current husband a month after she met him and they've been together for over 15 years now. Another woman I know has been with her SO for 7 years and they started dating 2 weeks after they met. I could keep on going, but the thing is that most relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:08 AM
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Men who are "natural" at attracting women tend to have better health indicators, a more imposing size and more aggressive behavior. Sometimes a woman will come onto a man with model looks, but for the most part it's the men who do the chasing and if the man has the balance of "ingredients" a woman considers attractive, she'll go with him. Generally only desperate women and gold diggers will date men who aren't naturals and tolerate clumsiness from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:03 AM
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Options other than AF or BB? WGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:10 AM
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What happened to the 30-year-old Romanian who has been bankrupting a 73-year-old Italian, in love with her Via google translate from a Romanian news website. She basically scammed the guy to the tune of 780000 euro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:19 PM
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What's the point ? Why am I even here ?? Your parents fucked and you survived until birth. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:41 PM
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I was speaking in general. Yes if you are talented at something people need they will take you on. It could be a job, it could be a travelling circus. But unless you are also charismatic, your sense of belonging there is entirely dependent on your skills and what they can do for the larger group. What did you think I was talking about, out of curiosity. And no I'm not being discriminated against at my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:09 AM
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That doesn't mean women STOP being attractive at 26% BF. Women are still attractive for many men even up to 30% BF. And above that you get the guys who love chubby women. Also no fat means no boobs Lots of men prefer smaller breasts. And isn't personality more important than boob size?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:08 AM
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You're not forcing them. You display a skill they need, so they begrudgingly accept that fact and, say, hire you. But they'd rather someone else with the same skills was taking the job instead of you. If they have to do something that they don't want to do, why try to make those specific people do it? Because I need a job and don't have the luxury to shop around for people who will accept me for who I am. As long as the pay is good and the work isn't illegal. It's not like I'm looking for a plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:42 AM
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As for other things, are you suggesting women, as a whole or majority, choose for men to ignore them. Whether it's video games or other men, assuming women can make men's choices is toxic. No. I'm saying, ideally, many women would like for a very large portion of men to ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:01 AM
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Yeah with talent and effort you can force people to begrudgingly accept you while holding their breath for your first mistake in your ascended position so they can start the rumor mill. Just be talented, hard-working, politically correct and able to read minds and people will finally tolerate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:51 AM
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Actually I'm posting for "fun" (well a twisted sort of fun). A year ago I didn't even know this sub existed. Look you don't have the SMV to pull a good-looking woman. Damn, where did I put that "Detective of The Year" diploma? So get one that matches your real looks which is low. I don't have the SMV to pull ANY woman. in fact, other than a brief stint last year, I gave up on dating over six years ago. I'm not even trying to date women, much less bed them. Fuck, I have a mirror in the house you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:31 AM
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Being an interesting person with hobbies and a life of your own automatically makes you more attractive. This! This is one of the quotes I was waiting for. "Get a life, bro!" is now checked off the list. asking the question “how can I get laid?” This isn’t a dating site. We’re not here for matches. I didn't come to PPD to ask “how can I get laid?”. Besides I already know the answer to that question. In my case it's "Either pay a hooker or change your life to the point where you wouldn't recogniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:24 AM
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I think the women give is good for finding a potential partner, It's not even that. Women here give these men advice on how to make women feel more comfortable. That's it. And it boils down to 2 main directions: Become less "threatening" Make yourself practically unheard and unseen. Out of sight, out of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:18 AM
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So, what you're basically saying is people should accept their station in life. While also trying to weasel out by leaving a small crack open but only for the truly exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:15 AM
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Hey it's nice when you can make things fir your own world view. Fine, ban me. It won't make this go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:13 AM
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Yes, for the first time people have access to higher education. People from all races and creeds. No thanks to feminism and capitalism. As for you, if you think life is hard now try being you before higher education was made a realistic possibility for the average person. Technically communist & socialist countries made "education was made a realistic possibility for the average person". It's one of their few noteworthy achievements. Capitalists just realized in hindsight that having people be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:05 AM
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then go see a therapist who can help you learn how to behave and interact with people if your social skills are so below-average Yeah I get in other people's personal space, drool on people, and stare them down. /s A therapist can't teach you "how to behave". And if you display behaviors that don't match people's image of you, you're seen as "fake" and "tryhard". Being seen as a "creep" or being seen as a "tryhard", choice of the century right there, folks. People only respect natural alphas and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:56 PM
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When did I say women have to bed every man who wants them? I was talking about women being repulsed by the idea that a section of men are sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:53 PM
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LOL the first time in history. Better pull out the history books. There have been a lot of times in history, in different places, where people, if they could pull off superhuman efforts, could hope to rise above the station society gave them. Maybe it's the first time it's happened globally. But in fact, there's so much lookism and competition that you have to be TRULY exceptional, and even then you won't get the compensation your contribution deserves. You'll just get people who realize they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:48 PM
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So, assuming for a moment I was autistic. I have to be "less autistic" to expect not romance, but basic human consideration. That's one for the books. At worst, I'm blaming society for letting women get away with discriminatory behavior while roasting men. And i'm not expecting to change anyone. That's a foolhardy task.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:43 PM
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This wasn't about fat and bald men wanting to get laid with hot women though. It was about how many women feel entitled to eating the meat without seeing the cow so to speak. For all of feminism's talk of mutual understanding and acceptance, it's mostly about accepting that women want to be "first among equals" in their relationship to men. They want equality but not for little dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:37 PM
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Because, among other things, women randomly avoid me on the street and on public transport ? I've also been called creepy to my face a number of times. Maybe it's because I sometimes have an autistic look in my eyes IDK. Creep is a catch-all term for "makes me uncomfortable" nowadays anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:35 PM
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Maybe everyone is gay for Chad :0
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:32 PM
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That's not what I was talking about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:30 PM
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yasee is basically doing what I said in the post title... :) basically "go fuck off and watch birds or whatever"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:28 PM
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Responsibility for being seen as a creep while not threatening anybody? That's one hell of a stretch... I accept responsibility for the things I did but I'm not stupid enough to go into a negative feedback loop where I end up "accepting responsibility" for "existing while being creepy" or some other shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:27 PM
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You can't steer somebody into homosexuality. Of course you can't, but you know that's not what they mean. It's meant to be disparaging without outright saying "go and fuck yourselves, incels / FA / TFLs".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:24 PM
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I did go mountain climbing some years ago. It was enjoyable before I had a mental breakdown and my health went to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:23 PM
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Everything is mundane work nowadays. You think modern ghost songwriters are treated a lot better than factory workers? The only difference is they don't breathe in toxic materials and have a college diploma. The pay is equally shitty and so is the amount of respect from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:20 PM
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Lmk when you guys are in the northeast and we'll pull some plastic together. Kind of hard to do that. I'm in East... Europe :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:18 PM
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How is this incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:17 PM
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Or make the backing tracks for their favorite films and pop artists, code the games they play on their phones, write the apps they use to socialize, or their favorite novels and scripts for their favorite movies, the list could go on and on. I just want to see the answers honestly. Even the virtue signaling ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:15 PM
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Something that's very time and energy consuming. Basically to the point of hopefully not having any energy left to try to hit on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:09 PM
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Imagine lacking self awareness to such an extent that you want people you consider undesirable to contribute to your comfort FOR FREE (basically in exchange for TOLERATING their existence). And by their contribution, to eliminate their own place in society to boot. "I mean you're the nerd, why don't you just nerd harder?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:50 PM
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Being single doesn't necessarily involve sex. Most people prefer to have a partner even if sex can't happen that often. What you're basically saying is that people can find ways to cope with being single and alone. Sure you can lose yourself in the act of creation. But what do you do once that's done? Start another creation? And then another one? Just so you can keep yourself occupied enough as to not drift in thought to the question "why am I alone?". Don't get me wrong I ABSOLUTELY endorse vol…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:48 PM
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I think women can be celibate and happy Most aren't. They just suffer in silence and have a network of friends to make the suffering less apparent. Most humans don't enjoy being single. Just having someone to embrace as you're watching some shitty Netflix show makes a world of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:41 PM
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Monastic Brotherhoods were a good support network for many men following that path. It's a valid path but it's not for everyone. The church also isn't what it once was anymore. Also, we're now telling ugly men basically "Get thee to a nunnery" :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:39 PM
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especially if can spin some good bullshit story about how you used to be some bigshot white collar guy but decided to pursue your passions instead or whatever. I used to pursue my passions but decided to become white collar and make bank instead. Does that work? /s if you're fat dude who has a shitty haircut and dresses like shit, it could make a huge positive difference to fix all that. I'm a fat dude who looks like a 50 year old homosexual at 31. Tried a lot of haircuts and clothes, I still lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:32 PM
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programming... LOL. Women H.A.T.E. programmers. Being a software engineer LOWERS your attractivity by 20-50%. I'm not saying don't pursue it. I'm saying, don't put it on your fucking dating profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:29 PM
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"uhh but what kind of interesting things do you do in your free time, mysterious vagabond?" I draw furry porn commissions on DeviantArt. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:27 PM
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31 have a good job. Can confirm a good job will not help you get a GF. Work out, get fit, give off a masculine "IDGAF" attitude. Be the guy "who could smash her into the ground but chooses not to". Then, you can find a GF even as a taxi driver. Otherwise, maybe you'll get to betabux a woman at 38 if you become a Lawyer or a Doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:26 PM
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Yeah with many women working similar jobs and hours men do I don't doubt women who end up in the same situation as Forever Alone men exist. Maybe not necessarily for the same reasons, but it's the effect that matters in the end. Then perhaps it's the expectation that you should be in a relationship that is wrong, because he shouldn't feel wrong for not settling for a maniac rather than being alone. It's the expectations that are driving men (and to a lesser extent women) nuts. Men in their 30s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:17 PM
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Okay. So you're telling me you think men like Anthony Varrecchia struggle with dating women 15 years their junior? He's a 50-something Chad. I once met a 74 year old Chad. He had women in their 40s trying to get with him. But at 74 his wee was no longer working and he wasn't allowed the little blue pill. But the guy was ripped and lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:12 PM
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TBH I've had moments when I get FB friend suggestions (or even requests sometimes) and the first thing I think is "She's way out of my league" XD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:09 PM
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Hey I understand you don't want to go any further. I have my own nasty shit in the past I don't feel comfy mentioning. It's not about being totally hopeless. If you lower your standards enough you can find someone. But think of the average Forever Alone Guy. A 35 yo man who, at best, had a GF a decade ago (say from 17 to 18) and then remained single into his 30s, has a car, has a job, is responsible with money, pays his taxes, is mindful of and respectful to women. Then his acquaintances try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:03 PM
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So BP and RP have similar results at opposite ends of the spectrum, like horseshoe theory ? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:49 PM
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less attractive, barely fuckable women are usually the ones with the worst personalities. hotter women are usually a lot more plesant to be around. I know but most women here say that most men would prefer a 10/10. I'm not a "Stacy chaser". And yes, less attractive women tend to be more bitter towards ugly men because it reminds them they are ugly too. And for women their own looks mean much more for self-esteem than in men. the idea that the hottest women are automatically unitelligent and bitc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:36 PM
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Is being on the higher end of the healthy BMI range fat? That's the question I have. I know the jury is out on if not being thin means you're fat. How much body fat is acceptable on a woman? This I think also varies from man to man. Some men prefer curves, some men prefer bones. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/ea/3e/80ea3ee3f2579c40b6662aeda9694f10.jpg Up to ~25% body fat is considered good looking for women. For men, ~19% body fat is the limit of being seen as attractive. https://i2.wp.com/ww…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:30 PM
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If you don't destroy it by alpha widowing yourself (goes for both sexes).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:27 PM
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Even the hottest fuckboys have only a 20% acceptance rate if they go indiscriminately. Those men are not only desirable, but know how to choose their targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:26 PM
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Don't ruin a nice read because of a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:24 PM
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Of course they do, but solely because we are ALL as humans trapped in a world delimited by our OWN features and viable options, not because even the ugliest, least attractive person wouldn’t gladly take the MOST attractive possible person, the 10, if they could get it. I wouldn't. I'd rather date a 5/10 woman who's cute enough to get me excited and I have things in common with. Many of the most attractive women are hot until they open their mouths and then even the penis goes "nope!". Then again…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:22 PM
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Oh well, she likely won't divorce him (bad for business), but she is likely cheating on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:17 PM
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Again, I chose to remain single because, as an introverted guy, I can for the most part, deal with it pretty well. Being celibate for the rest of your life probably doesn't scare you because you've never had to seriously entertain that possibility yet. Even if you could get over it, it would scare you at least at first. I had to do it and it scared me at first & it took a while and a lot of work to somewhat get over it. Isn't it better to be single than to be with someone who doesn't suit you? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:14 PM
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Ugly girls don't want to date ugly guys.In fact ugly girls are the most likely to say that ugly guys should just "turn gay and fuck eachother".And it's less about physical beauty and more about attitude. Ugly men are left to "have their pick" from: obese single moms with mental issues looking for a bailout obese feminists with rainbow-colored hair obese bipolar weirdos who are into really fringe shit (extreme BDSM, energy healing BS, furries) Generally speaking, women at the bottom of the barrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:18 PM
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Didn't he get out of Jail. TBH Jorge has enough balls that, with the right encouragement, he could make something of himself yet. Still, being broke in the US sure beats being broke in many other parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:02 PM
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I was at home programming, building and fixing others' computers, studying and watching shit online. Mostly because my peers shunned me, bullied me and rejected me. As a bonus I also grew up in a single mom household so I had to find my own way. My sister was the wild one so I had to pretend to be "momma's boy" because my mom was ill at the time. And when you pretend long enough...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:00 PM
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I really don't want to judge you so I won't. I have no idea what your circumstances were so the only things I'll answer are the generic ones. It's certainly a good thing for you that you found a partner who's a good fit for you. I also saw my mother (and other women) date men based on the wrong values so there's that as common ground for understanding. And most of the girls and women I was infatuated with (you can't really call a one sided thing "love") were not always very pretty (though they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:49 PM
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That's because you went through some critical experiences with women. A lot of men are incredibly thirsty because no woman has ever given them the time of day and they, at best, lucked out on getting a GF in HS who though he was "kinda cute", until she realized Chad was willing to let her ride him in College.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:10 PM
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Only the top 20% of men get a "Fuck yes" and even they don't get it all the time. In 2019 if you're not a top 20% man might as well give up on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:07 PM
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Just look at photos of women without makeup, jack off and look at them while still in post-nut clarity. Men would have sex with 60-70% of women. That doesn't make them all beautiful. For many men it's enough to have a partner that's somewhat attractive and they have good chemistry with. Most men WANT to find common ground with their SO, but they give up when they realize it's pointless. I'm talking about perhaps unconventional bone structure Doesn't get more unconventional than "horse faced" fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:02 PM
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Engineers tend to be fucking autistic when it comes to social skills Engineers tend to be fucking autistic full stop. Most STEM-types are somewhat "autistic". What are you talking about when you say "social skills"? Charm is mostly based on looks, body language and being able to say the right thing at the right time. Engineers tend to suck at body language and saying the right thing at the right time because most of them are rejected by their peers early on and end up solitary. Even the most aut…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:52 PM
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I really find it surprising that no one values companionship, friendship, love and deep understanding. I've rarely seen women understand men on that level. Also, how do you get around the sexual tension? If a man is single and his female friend is also single, few men would say "No" to hooking up with her. On a financial basis, I have no need of my partner, I could get a donor for when I want kids and manage fine living on my own. Even as a woman, I'm better and handiwork and repairs and most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:39 PM
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IDK man, I've seen my fair share of average looking struggling musicians having OK sex lives and much hotter GFs / wives. And a musician who does gigs will by default have "better" social skills. Far more than I've seen engineers doing the same at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:21 PM
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Our biology works against our desire to have structure and society. Even the writings of the earliest Persian and Greek philosophers corroborate. Our biology stopped being in sync with us some 10.000-12.000 years ago. Comparing women's preference of traits that serve little purpose in society (why do women - especially young women- prefer fun assholes vs diligent, hard-working, respectful men?). It's not all about looks. The average young woman's ideal mate only makes sense if you look at humans…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:51 PM
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Take away the makeup and a lot of women ARE A 5. Putting on a putty nose doesn't make you beautiful even if you can deceive others. Women are, on average, just as ugly as men. It's just that men want to fuck women a lot more than women want to be fucked by men. I can be attracted to a woman while still realizing she's not the hottest woman out there and still want to date her over hotter women because of other little things. Maybe she likes the same things as I do, maybe she's mentally stimulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:42 PM
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Hell she COULD STILL find a man to marry her. But he's not going to be "HRH McJaw Sixpak Thundercock Hollywood III" ergo there are no men who want to marry her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/19 12:33 PM
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Where do I sign up? I wanna get married, married But I rode the carousel Did it for far too long Now there's no more good men :P EDIT: TBH she's pretty good looking for her age, but that's about it. BTW, here's how (not) to find a good man. Have candid pictures of yourself online. https://margiewoodsbrown.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/dallas-boudoir-photographer-lisa-linehan-of-project-husband/ She just wants attention and hopefully a Good Guy Chad to come along and whisk her away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/19 12:16 PM
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A number of 30+ virgins here would like to disagree. Women aren't that much into wizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:10 PM
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An unknown musician who works as a barista at 30 and lives with 3 roommates and a cat doesn’t fuck as much as Bowie, regardless of talent. He still fucks a lot more than a structural engineer. And infinitely more compared to a software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:09 PM
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Basically it's our biology working against us. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:07 PM
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Oh, faff off with the judgmental thing. Most judgmental men end up that way because whenever they try to have fun with the group, they get pushed away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:05 PM
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If they're attractive we want them, if they're ugly we don't. Men generally avoid fat women, not ugly ones. If she's fit and ugly she'll still be popular (especially after high school). Although, a fat and ugly woman still has the SMV of a 5 / 10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:04 PM
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We know full well women also like skinny types. Women generally favor ectomorphs. Mesomorphs cand do well with some women if they bulk. Endomorphs get the shit end of the stick. Even when tall, lean and fit they still look short and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:00 PM
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Nah, looks don't don't matter as much (as long as he's not deformed), just look at Ed Sheeran. If not for his talent he'd be married to a fat single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:57 AM
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Fame and social capital. I'd sleep with a lot of women musicians, but that's mostly because I find them physically appealing and mentally stimulating. Men don't care about the fame of women they sleep with or date. Even male royalty marries down a lot more often than female royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:53 AM
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private public works department :P yeah, I'm just being an ass
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:50 AM
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If you don't fit the 'type' (stand out based on identity) and do an amazingly good job, you'll get noticed and rewarded beyond someone who does fit the 'type'. tolerated and low-key hated. FTFY. If you don't "fit the 'type' (stand out based on identity) and do an amazingly good job", people will always shit test, just waiting for you to fail so they can step over your "corpse". People will tolerate you because they need the skills, but they'd much rather it was someone else in your place doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:47 AM
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General practice medics too, not just nursing. Over 1 in 3 lawyers is a woman. About half of service staff is female. Just about every social & media job. The only jobs where women are horribly under-hired are: jobs women don't want in the first place (mining, computers, mechanics, welders, sewage) jobs where most women are too sensitive to be able to last (politics, CEO, CTO, CFO)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:39 AM
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Height does somewhat correlate to penis size. Average erect pee-pee (:P) size is 2-3 fingers under the belly button. So the taller the guy, the longer his wee. XD I doesn't correlate with girth though. Plus a lot of the things women prefer in men are recessive traits their kids won't inherit anyway. :P So a lot of "ugly" women will end up birthing future "ugly" (sub 7/10) sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:37 AM
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What are shitty genes nowadays? I doubt your average fuckboy of today could make a stand against a lion or a bear. People keep talking about good looks being a predictor of good genes. Unless you're horribly malformed good looks are no more a predictor of good health than foot size is a predictor of a large dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:56 AM
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Women hate being picked up by UGLY men. A hot guy who's clumsy is seen as sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:53 AM
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That's mostly MRA talk of sour grapes. most of the guys saying this can't get past the first date (if they can even get a first date). Women aren't entirely blameless here though. In truth it's a very complicated situation that's very hard to solve. As long as above-average men are OK with fucking less attractive women on the side to break a dry spell and men in general are thirsty as fuck there's no way this can change. A woman who perceives she had 300 options to choose from is very unlikely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:51 AM
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Except it's not. We're not built to be single. I'm a hardcore introvert. The type who'd rather write code or take apart and fix electronics than go to a party. And I still crave human contact and a relationship on occasion. Monk mode is doable, sure, but it takes a lot of inner strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:39 AM
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Comes with the territory I guess as most women hate dating programmers. Still doesn't absolve the guy of being a murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:37 AM
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Only 1 and 2/10 women are objectively unattractive. And even THEY get laid. Just look up the Slaton sisters. They get laid and have had boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:34 AM
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Being obese or fat and "pear-shaped" automatically makes you a 3/10 in today's society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:33 AM
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Isn't Anfisa STILL together with Jorge? At least there she has a part time modelling career. In her home country she was a camgirl. Also in terms of looks, if Jorge lost weight, he'd be her looksmatch. Anfisa really isn't that beautiful. Fitness aside she's pretty average for an East European woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:32 AM
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but a 60 yo is just not sexually attractive no matter how much money he has. 60 year old Chads are pretty attractive to women their age and even a bit younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:22 AM
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Women have nothing to offer men In my case that's mostly true. What I want from a woman is to be able to actually experience love. I'm a guy whose never experienced teen love, nor young adult love. Most women my age are jaded as fuck. And I'm not idiotic enough to think I can get with a woman 4-5 years my junior. Not that it would help a lot even if I did... What most women my age want from men like me is the status of being married & a baby in the oven. And as little intimacy as possible after …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:20 AM
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Hentai :P It's more about the tales of guys stationed there and those who went as exchange students or English teachers. A lot of men find Asian women to be more "exotic", plus being white and rich in an east Asian country used to be rare and desirable. For a large part of the 80s and 90s average guys who wouldn't get the time of day from average american women COULD coast by on their unique status in East Asia and get together with women who were sometimes even above average. Suffice to say, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:11 AM
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A lot of guys do know it. But can you blame a man's desire to be wanted by a woman? What should ugly guys do, kill themselves? Go live under rocks so they don't bother women with their presence? Not all men are introverted enough to get by with just socializing at work and maybe occasionally with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:07 AM
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Most men who marry foreign women do so because they're undesirable in their own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:03 AM
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Old Ugly American men should not be shocked or perplexed that their much younger mail order bride from a third world country just wants them for their money. FTFY. Most men going for mail-order brides are 35-49 (not saying older men don't do it) and, in general, go for women only a few years their junior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:01 AM
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BP won't bring you an LTR either. Unless you luck out, you'll get, at best, a woman who is OK being a gold digger (or uses you for something else)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:51 AM
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RP isn't about seeking cheap validation from sluts. find a woman that’s good to you as you’re good to her You have NO idea how hard this is. You really think he'll just luck into a great LTR on his first try? Applying RP to find a long term partner is probably the balanced approached. Being a BP idiot is only for suckers and those rich enough not to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:54 AM
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At this point my friend says I missed the boat and should say fuck it and remain a virgin, don’t date, and work so I can retire early, but honesty that sounds supper depressing and I really don’t want someone in my life who actually cares about me and I can be freaky with. At this point though with how people react when I tell them I’m a virgin (women saying it’s cute never feels good), I think my friend might be right and I missed the boat so to speak. Hey, your friend's advice isn't half bad i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:51 AM
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The issue betas have is they are too nice and don't understand women are tougher than they think. Well, no, the issue is women don't like flirting with ugly men. A good looking, fit man is afforded many mistakes before he'll get rejected. An unattractive and/or fat man will get rejected at the first mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:41 AM
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Focus on looking your best first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:38 AM
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Look at what happened to Henry Cavill for questioning MeToo Feminists: "We meant ugly men! We didn't mean you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:33 AM
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Yeah I'm simplifying history A LOT. Similar to the whole idea of "bad times->strong men->good times->weak men". I'm not saying what he did was bad or evil given the time this all took place in. If anything, the Mongol Empire can be loosely compared with the Roman Empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:25 AM
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while contributing nothing but snark and bitterness similar to me then, except I'm more autistic and cringy so shes like a model redditor aren't we all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:54 PM
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too bad all the men got killed and the women got added to his empire before they got to enjoy all that progressiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:52 PM
1

well you say milquetoasts are not worthy of respect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:51 PM
3

or how you're educated. when your only solace is a single mom and everyone else bullies you...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:21 PM
1

Guys liking really unstable girls is just as common. guys like crazy women in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:18 PM
3

Spartans threw their weak babies off rocks, maybe our modern society will want to do the same, destroy weak unattractive men before they reach maturity :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:34 PM
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No I like to make bitter, passive-aggressive passes. It's all my ugly, beta, loser, fat, autistic ass can muster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:25 PM
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basically, now that they can, women fuck Chads for as long as they can get away with and then expect beta male empathy and sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:21 PM
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women have never been attracted to weak men. maybe we'll start throwing weak male babies off rocks like in Sparta
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:18 PM
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Most guys today freak out at the thought of asking a girl for her phone number. Or asking a girl on a date. And especially at trying to have sex with a girl after a date. Ya because most women nowadays only want Chad. If you had even a 1/100 chance of being respectfully rejected it'd be one thing. But nowadays lots of women are used to Chad grabbing their ass on the first date (if not fucking them). Straight, plain-looking men who aren't assertive no longer have a place in the dating market. Unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:16 PM
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You want a society full of assertive men ready to die at each other's throats?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:12 PM
2

For far too long, men have been able to coast on being average due to financial dependence and social constraints on women. That wasn't a good thing. Please don't call it coasting. It still takes effort and time. Every man does what he's good at. We can't all be the boss. And if women only want the boss, go compete for the boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:10 PM
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If you're not Genghis Khan you're a beta, basically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:08 PM
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Not shaming women for fucking around with Chads. That's what it was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:06 PM
1

nr 2 is basically duty sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:03 PM
2

Just mocking programmers. Saying they shouldn't have so much money. "Let's pay macho men more instead", basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:02 PM
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it's only soft cause you can't make it hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:00 PM
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Keep going for version 1. There's a nice package of wine & cats at the end. Plus the inability to ever bond with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:59 PM
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But no, she had more sex during her 3 year open relationship with a tatood dj who ended up addicted to heroin And you married her? LOLZ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:58 PM
2

That brings us to "the catch" or "high betas" or "tamable alphas" the few men that hang somewhere in the balance, enough beta to have a white picket fence with and enough alpha to keep her attracted. good luck to the ~1.8 billion women who will have to fight over ~200 million men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:55 PM
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I don't doubt if the guy was hot he could still be an asshole and get laid. Possibly not with you but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:50 PM
2

Just be a gold digger, bro sis!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:46 PM
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I've never even had a car and it hasn't stopped me from not hooking up with any women :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:45 PM
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'hey girl i have cigs and weed.' Is he still ugly and an asshole? Well, a guy's gotta have something going for him. Too bad being ugly is deadly for romance in 2019.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:44 PM
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Where's no women idc who she is can compete with her dizy bubble headed perky 19 year old. Mostly because her standards only INCREASE with age. If you're constantly pruning your pool of dating options with outrageous expectations don't be surprised when you end up alone and a cat lady. But, I forgot, women are O.K. with being alone. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:39 PM
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No, not really. Men's looks burn slow for longer. Women's looks burn brighter but faster. Men are good to go for reproduction, on average, for a while longer (about 10-12 years more than women) than women. Most men can father healthy children until 40-45. https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/link-parental-age-autism-explained/ Most women's fertility drops sharply past 35 and the risk increase a lot. Additionally some rare men have fathered children up to 101 years. The oldest woman to conceive natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:30 PM
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assuming they don't have autism Shit! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:28 PM
1

LOL, those are just 3 random photos of actually average guys. It's not about those specific guys. Basically none of them are even a 7/10 in looks. The first guy is a 6/10, the second is a 3/10 and the 3rd is a 4/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 07:12 PM
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To think all of that would've worked out naturally if you were born attractive and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 08:53 PM
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Yeah I realized having a girlfriend would be hard as early as 6th grade. It only became harder since.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:43 PM
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With diamond-hard abs :))
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:39 PM
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There’s a lot of dudes with low SMV who think their SMV is much higher than it actually is so they’ll only pay attention to attractive women, even though most attractive women are out of their league. Plus-Sized Women Admit They Aren't Attracted To Overweight Men On the other hand, I wanted to date hot women so that meant I had to do things they didn’t have to do. I had to go to the gym 3-5 days/week consistently for years, I had to monitor my diet and eat the correct foods, I had to expand my h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:37 PM
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Look up the history between Elizabeth I and Mary, Queen of Scots. While I'd love for us to replace all the men in power with women for a couple of terms just to show that women aren't all that different from men, right now nobody is willing to do that. This whole idea that women are special, more kind and less selfish needs to go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:12 PM
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Hey thanks for calling me a dumbass. I meant higher cognition that most animals do not. Violence is a choice for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:10 PM
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not really we have higher cognition. and if you're compelled to smash heads while drunk, don't get drunk at important events
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:38 PM
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If that's how it worked out for you, that's good. By your logic, waiting until marriage would make for the best marriages. Except you have to be a chump to wait in current year as most women aren't waiting. If you've been dating a woman for a while and you're not having sex, it's either a medical issue or she's getting it somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 11:05 AM
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I'm a man. Overweight and awkward but still a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:58 AM
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Yes. It made me realize I am (in women's eyes) ugly and undesirable. As a result, I gave up on dating entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:43 AM
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And only reveals itself if the angles of your jaw match those drawn on the Golden Tablet Of Sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:41 AM
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Not if she's fucking 3 other dudes on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:39 AM
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Is that what it's going to take, just start slaying girl after girl until they respect me as an individual? If you can do that... Sounds to me like you're a Man Sent His Own Way like me. There's no shame in admitting women don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:38 AM
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Then while she is working that could easily be like a bunch more, so you're saying that I missed out on dating all these girls and now I have to get married to someone who has experienced so much more life than me? You, that's modern life. Tough shit. Tho don't despair, unless you come into heavy money, these women won't force your hand into marriage, hell they won't even date you so don't worry about having to get married. So either, I go my own way and not get married or have kids and live my …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:37 AM
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and do make sure to laugh at the losers Fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:32 AM
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Sounds like sarcasm. But, as always there's truth mixed in with the funny post. In this case, the nuggets of truth are: you're probably just one of many guys in line dating her trying to get chosen. and That nerdy socially awkward chick is out having tons of sex too, she sure as hell ain't alone. Most women will always have a bunch of guys on retainer or orbiting them. Even nerdy, fat, socially awkward chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:29 AM
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Plenty of women say "only men with no options will wait". Contrary to my general opinion here there are still women who want a stable relationship over anything else and will date a man based on his apparent lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:24 AM
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Sure it does. The building might not be the newest or most modern-looking in town (as new buildings are generally built to the edge of the town). And that's unacceptable to most women. The man is either the full package (at least initially) or he will only get a "no" from her unless baby rabies and desperation strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:22 AM
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Men are becoming shitty because being shitty gets them easier access to women. If women want men to be less of an asshole or badboy go the route of Aristophanes' Lysistrata. I.E. Stop Giving Them Sex. Then again a lot of women can't help themselves around badboys, especially attractive badboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:18 AM
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You can prbably guess I'm not charismatic at all heh. I'm the guy people ironically tell "you must be fun at parties" :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 09:49 AM
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There is evidence of this link. But a male model won't be necessarily be smarter than an ugly guy. Yeah a lot of genetic conditions that affect the mind also affect the body. But plenty of ugly and average looking people are smart though. ALS made Stephan Hawking look quite unattractive physically, but it din't stunt his intelligence. Good looking men are generally intelligent, but it doesn't mean they are THE MOST intelligent. Nor that intelligence has a positive link with a certain square jaw …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 09:47 AM
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women's natural instincts also lead to war, slavery and destruction but on a lesser scale and we get to live in shit huts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 09:39 AM
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This is what less-fit, less-handsome guys tell themselves to make themselves feel better. Unless you want to imply that there's a hard link between male hotness and male intelligence, and that less attractive guys are stupid, that's not entirely true. Let me put this otherwise. How many hot guys vs average guys do you see in STEM, medical field, architecture, etc. Sure CEOs are "smart", but by the same measure drug dealers are "smart" too. I'm referring to intelligence that CAN AND WANTS TO acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:37 AM
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Yeah thinking women are "innocent" and have no idea what sex is and it's only men who push them is stupid. Though some of the women who say "only men with no options will wait" might be hiding their own impatience at wanting to get on top of the guys they find hot, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:56 AM
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Tough luck to them I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:10 AM
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I'm not as cultured as you are and wouldn't have written it in such fancy words, but yeah, in the end we all die. Hot guys die, ugly guys die, hot women die, ugly women die. It's pretty hard to be fulfilled by a life where others push you away and isolate you save for when they need your skills and have to begrudgingly take you out of the basement and suffer your presence. If and when I'm bitter it's because I'm lonely and I can't find anyone I resonate with. The only women who MIGHT want to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:06 PM
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At the very least keeping them in check and in line. Most men who can't get a longterm partner end up just as sad as most cat ladies. Too bad cat ladies don't want to date these men even as the reach into their 40s and 50s. But they what do I know I'm just an ugly, autistic moron online, no? Natural selection doesn’t “care” about cancer or diseases that affect an organism after it’s already reached maturity and beyond and most likely passed on its genes already. Tell that to all the women using …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:45 PM
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So who was she talking about, crazy incels who want a madonna-whore? They have as much of a shot as post 35 yo women who want to find their own prince after seeing Meghan Markle marry Prince Harry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:41 PM
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For every woman out of whack there has to be a man out of whack. Unfortunately for them crazy women are generally fuckable. Crazy men are generally unfuckable. The guys I do get are those who are not OK with their date breaking agreed-upon exclusivity. And I also understand guys who find out their GF used to fuck on the first date for Chad (and it wasn't a onesies-twosies accident, but a repeat), while she made him wait a dozen dates. And she had fucked a couple of other guys while they were dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:31 PM
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The worse is how many men want a non-slut to be a slut for JUST him, despite him being JUST another man. In practice I also find prevalent the case of the slut who wants to be a non-slut just for him. The woman with an N count of 30 by 30 who used to give blowjobs, do anal, you name it. And now she only offers her current BF missionary once a month and is disgusted by the idea of giving him a HANDjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:28 PM
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What do you think could be a good western non religious alternative to monasteries, then? Right now, nothing. Undesirable men are taking the hint and self-censoring themselves. Too bad for society they're also choosing not to work at full capacity anymore. No romantic prospects? Okay, with some grit you can get past that. No social recognition AND shit pay ON TOP of no romance? "well, then f&k you society!"* EDIT: Besides, nowadays any club or organization promoting brotherhood and solace that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:15 PM
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Most unicorns are just plain old horses with a papier-mâché horn duct taped (or at best glued) to their heads. Also watch out for penicorns! (or don't if that's your thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:51 PM
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Come on, a lot of guys are OK with waiting for 6-10 dates (maybe even a bit more) until getting in bed. But yeah, you'll no longer find guys who will wait for marriage. If you want a high value man who waits for marriage, YOU have to wait for marriage as well. No more "please clean up after my youthful mistakes". No more "you're the safest guy I've been with and don't feel like I absolutely have to be intimate with you to keep you around". Sorry but that shit no longer flies with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:47 PM
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Growing up as woman it is painfully clear your attractiveness and attitude are more important then your drive or intellect to most men. Well it's women who want their intellect to be a bonus to their looks. If you care about intellect more, why not give more leeway to intellectually stimulating men. Instead of going for 60% looks 40% intellect, why not go 55% intellect, 45% looks? Sure, smart men are generally a bit less fit and a bit less handsome but at least you get a good partner who has sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:44 PM
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A few women gave me some fair points about exclusively lesbian women I didn't know about before. A lot of straight women confirmed, yet again, that MWALT either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:42 PM
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I don’t think all priests and monks throughout history were mentally unstable, sounds like you have a low opinion of men. We no longer have the extent of monastic orders a troubled teen with no luck in love can find solace and acceptance in, especially not in the west. Also nice subtle way to tell low value men "Just go be a monk or something". Yeah yeah men care more about fertility than genes, that doesn’t make them any less shallow than women. [...] Men just want a working womb with legs. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:33 PM
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For women? No change. Men will still be thirsty as hell. For men? No change. Women will still be hypergamous as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:27 PM
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Look up "korean putty nose". :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:26 PM
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You will die without food, you will not die without sex. No you won't die, you'll just become mentally unstable and unable to have a proper relationship if the occasion ever arises. :) I don’t think lying to get sex is rape, but I do think it’s close to it and sexually fraudulent. Immoral but not illegal. Well sexuality is amoral. I mean women lie to men and themselves all the time. Men know women are wearing these things. Women also have an inkling, but they choose to entertain the fantasy, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:05 PM
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That hasn't been my experience at all. Low value men often want to believe that attractive high quality men are rare and difficult to find, but they really aren't. Where do you live? Big city or a small, nearly rural community? Unless you live in Goodmansville here's the game. You have a high concentration of people, that means a higher NUMBER of eligible men. But the PERCENTAGE stays the same. In a village 1000 strong you'd have, say, 70 eligible, high value men. In a city 1000000 strong you'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:51 PM
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Just reread your old post now: I don't fuck, but I don't complain. I just do something else that requires thought, passion, and room for improvement, and I find it to be a pretty good investment of my time and energy. WOW! IT REALLY IS THAT EASY TO NOT CARE! A virtuous FA guy! Dude don't fall for that... hahahaha Women just want you to focus on something else so they won't have to deal with you... hahahaha Now on to your new post. What other kinds of hobbies are there that are not socially appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:39 PM
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Do you think its unreasonable to seek out partners that share your values, have compatible lifestyles and future goals? Do you think it's wise to have rock bottom criteria for LTRs? No, I think it's unreasonable to expect LTRs to be "Hookup+" (or "FWB+"). Few men out there provide "The Full Package" and are in very high demand. So if a woman is looking for an LTR she'll often risk becoming a plate for eligible men who are bachelors. Let's be honest here, after 30 most eligible LTR-minded men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:02 PM
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More than likely. I doubt most women care so much that a guy they're not attracted to asks them out as long as he can take a "No".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:44 PM
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We can argue about where the line between awkward and creepy is. There are ABSOLUTELY mean, vain, and insecure women who use the cudgel of “creepy” to reclaim their narcissistic sense of dignity for having been subjected to the awkward interest of males below their perceived league. I especially love this particular bit. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:02 PM
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Women use it that way. OP is just using it how women use it. Women also use "cringy" to describe things that, while not "creepy", still make them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:59 PM
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Forget college students! Women nowadays see an undesirable man her age saying "Hi!" to her being as bad as a 40 yo guy hitting on HS students.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:58 PM
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But the guy treats her like a princess at first (the hook) and only then turns out to be an asshole. /s Except when a decent (but plain-looking) guy treats her like a princess, he's creepy, clingy and gross. Eww! XD First of all, these women that I know all dated men in their mid 20s back when they were in high school. Just mid 20s? Try late 20s. I've seen plenty 15, 16 & 17 yo girls dating men as old as 29 when I was in HS. They were shocked when these older guys used them for sex and took adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:48 PM
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You're only creepy if you're clumsy while being ugly. Hot clumsy men are "sweet" and "cute". So fuck it. If in the process of sharpening these skills, I make some girls feel uncomfortable or creeped out, oh the fuck well. Their cross to bear. My only job is to learn from those interactions. Except there are laws in the works in many countries so that "girls feel uncomfortable = sexual harassment". You won't get jail time, but the fine will be enough to make you want to stop "learning".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:42 PM
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Do something else, and maybe - just MAYBE - sex becomes a part of your lifestyle through that indirect effort. Just get a socially approved hobby, bro! Wouldn't count on it if you expect that, though. That shit gets real obvious real quick. If a hot singer admitted part of why he does public shows is to get groupies nobody would bat an eye. If an ugly singer did it (unless he was on the same level as Prince or Jimmy Hendrix)... oooh boy the backlash! What's so good about forming a family anyway?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:40 PM
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steal from people who worked hard for what they have Women don't really work for their SMV, they're born with it. As for makeup, it's an acquired skill but closer to deceit than hard work. moral decency Tell that to the starving man who steals food. The need for sex and affection is a basic one. Just as some people will steal food, some men will "steal" sex. Unless you want to argue that "tricking" a woman into sex by projecting the image of an alpha male is somehow rape. In which case you need …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:26 PM
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Nope. The idea is to realize than when a guy is using you as a plate, he has little reason to upgrade the relationship just cause you commit "more" than the other women going through his life and bed. Doubling down on competing for him will rarely result in him dropping his other plates and going exclusively with you. A LOT OF WOMEN make this mistake. Find a guy you like WHO ALSO LIKES you. If you can't and are stuck on the guy spinning you, learn from TRP: NO ONITISES! What you're suffering fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:50 PM
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Nothing new. you're basically advocating "The Virtuous Blackpiller" standpoint. These people have got to stop giving a fuck about reaching that particular end because there are so many different means out there that keep you occupied and less bitter about things. they'll never get it anyway. FTFY. Pretty much every call for undesirable men to "find something to keep themselves occupied" is basically a polite call to "fuck off and get back under their rocks". You believe it's unjustified for thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:43 PM
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Nope. It just looks like a lot of men here don't realize how good looking they are. Show me how often the average guy (the dudes in the pics, for example) will be able to hook up / have casual sex / be FWB with a woman, ANY woman (other than prostitutes), much less get in a relationship. Average Guy 1 Average Guy 2 Average Guy 3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:16 PM
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you mean males cant punch above so they settle? Yeah, no shit sherlock! A lot of guys can't even punch across, much less above. So they settle. is their self-worth that low? Maybe it is. Often she's the first woman to actually enjoy spending time with him, even if she's ugly. The average man will seem boring to a lot of women. That's without taking the 80-20 rule into account. better with her than alone? It depends how self-sufficient and introverted the guy is. Some men (like me) are okay with …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:10 PM
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There's a difference between having sex all the time and having sex once a year or less. Especially since most of those men don't have medical conditions restricting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:43 AM
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So, since the expectation has built up, it's better to deny it forever, relegating it to some kind of mystery status? A sort of "Church of The Unattainable for Losers Who Can't Get Any"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:42 AM
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True, he was an asshole, but society had its contribution in his creation. A funny, smart, fit man doesn't end up a 35 yo virgin unless most of the women he meets are extremely shallow. Why did this 35 yo virgin act like a broken man? He should have lived vicariously and virtuously. Nobody owed him anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:53 AM
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Being unwanted for 35 years is also a garbage way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:50 AM
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Well, there's nothing else a man can do to become more attractive to women. To women, jokes sound better coming from a fit, well groomed guy looking his best. Even philosophical musings sound better coming from a hot man vs a plain looking or ugly man. Even a homely looking woman can get a decently hot guy "to rent" as long as she's not a complete mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:34 AM
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The criteria for hookups is much lower than my criteria for LTRs. For casual sex, he really only needs to be attractive, nice, and good in bed. So your criteria for LTR are: must be in the top 20% of men a whole host of other qualities Where are all the (Good Looking) Good Men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:03 AM
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This is my preferred way to get into relationships, especially with girls who thought that could never happen. You must be good looking then. This almost never works out for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:00 AM
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He's good looking. Most men will get a slap over the face for bringing it up. The average man has to choose between a dry spell and tricking women he only wants to hook up with that he actually wants more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:59 AM
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It works if you're a Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:57 AM
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lack of both interpersonal and cultural clarity on the definitions of relationships and courtship rituals. Yeah a lack of clarity in courtship rituals... hahaha Damn incels always misinterpreting... Chad treated me like a princess and gave me gifts before he turned out to be an asshole. Melvin? Who the fuck is that? Oh wait I remember! Ewww! He was that creepy guy who asked me out last year. He even tried giving me a gift! So gross! What a fucking loser!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure u/themanmohr has no issues getting dates. Don't think he messed up by rejecting a girl who LEFT HER DATE to come chat with him. If you're not OK with how your date is going, tell that to your date. End the date with gusto, don't just up and leave and then throw yourself at another man in full view of your date. It was homecoming, the poor guy promised the girl's parents to bring her back. Now he has to stay around like a beta bitch while she's trying to get with Chad until the ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:38 AM
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Go to the gym and lose the fat. Keep carbs and sugars to a minimum. The uglier you are, the more fat you have to lose. Wear dark, slim fit clothes as they make you appear taller. Get shoes with the tallest (reasonable) soles you can find. Especially in winter when you can get away with thick-soled boots. Go to a pro barber and pay him whatever to get a good styling that fits your face shape. If you have major flaws like a crooked nose and can afford to, get surgery for that. And finally, yes, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:31 AM
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So, still holding out for the Good Looking Good Man. Well, Good Luck! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:26 AM
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You can't compare it to the housing market. It's as if lots of people offered you cheap, good, cozy, well insulated, fully furnished housing, with subway and bus access. You reach work in 30 min tops. But you reject all those offers and choose the $3000 / month rent because it's in the close to all the socialites and nightclubs are nearby. Women choose to "rent" the asshole, hot badboy because they want drama and "fun". The ordinary man is too bland and boring for the average woman, who is, at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:23 AM
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I can grok this. But having men who will spend some time with you (even if non-exclusively) doesn't make a woman "single" in my book. Now I'm not condemning choosing to stay a "plate" or having random casual sex, but don't say there are no "good men" when you actively reject them to pursue "renting" hot guys. Many women view themselves as "single" even as they have Friday and Saturday night booked for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:14 AM
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LOL why would you want a gold digging thot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 08:03 PM
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No, I'd obviously pay child support if that was the case, but I'd attack the cause of me being unable to visit in court as much as possible. But if you lose all control over the raising of a child, why should you as a man have to pay the lion's share of the cost? Because the child sprang from your loins? This child you couldn't raise could potentially one day grow up to inherit your life's work and squander it over his mom's poor decisions. Quite a few women get restraining orders or try to limi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:42 PM
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I had to "mature" fast because of childhood abuse, poverty, etc. Post-commie Eastern Europe FTW! Well, I'd say it's less maturity and more cynicism and a lack of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:13 PM
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Well, you're not an incel for starters. Better than a teacher? Sure! Still, if you were a medic, lawyer or an architect you'd have had 2-3x the matches. Computer science slashes your number of potential matches in half. But for an incel? Going into programming is basically killing off his dating prospects entirely. https://www.quora.com/Do-girls-dislike-dating-a-programmer https://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/65776-why-do-girls-hate-programmers https://www.salon.com/2014/05/30/amazon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:09 PM
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Nope, INTPs are deeply introspective, not liberals. Not even INTJs. Stop blaming INTP for everything you hate just because INTPs are uncanny and creepy. A large part of modern inventions are due to INTP men who dedicated their lives to their craft. Liberal arts are the domain of *SFJs, *SFPs and **NFs, NOT INTP & INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:02 PM
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Childhood abuse was pretty widespread until recently. So, in a way, it's no surprise a lot of grown women have issues drawing them to assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:57 PM
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Do you mind my asking how old you are? Hahaha, shit!🙂 Pretty embarrassing but... 31... yeah... Well, life is what it is!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:52 PM
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But we also can't assume that every chick out there looks like Rose Leslie and can have any Chad she wants just by smiling. TBF girls like Rose Leslie aren't even all that high on the SMV scale. Out of reach for an incel? Sure, but I've seen many ordinary guys (balding, overweight, average height, etc.) dating slim, cute redheads. There are a lot of girls out there who are plain, a bit overweight, and have poor social skills or low self-esteem. Ehh... I see plenty of "arm candy" boys hand-in-han…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:47 PM
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Well I'm an introvert sort of guy, so for me, longing for romance and intimacy is more of an occasional pang of deep regret. Most of the time I don't give a rat's ass I'm single. As for what I said, it did happen a few times. Was dumb enough to try to stop some conflicts and ended up being used as a punching bag. That happens in chimps too, if a "gamma" chimp wanders around two "beta" chimps in conflict, they'll take it out on the poor sap and leave refreshed. I've had a couple of women call me …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:35 PM
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If the incel goes out to bars, he isn't going to find a whole lot of quality women. Going out to bars is a lot like Tinder (but with beer goggles and the risk of next day accusations born out of regret). So not a good fit for incels. If he goes out to a charity function, a political meeting, on a hiking trip, or even to a religious function, he could meet a nice girl who is looking to get married and start a family. Good one! You're assuming the incel has enough social clout to be invited or be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:30 PM
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At best you "tail -f" ed her. :)) Yeah I'm like that. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:24 PM
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people to date are finite and get worse as you get into your later 20's with good ones being already taken. I like to take this classic bad boy whenever people bring up statistics in dating: https://logological.org/girlfriend Fact is, if you're not in a 5+ year LTR or married by ~35, statistically, your chances of finding a good partner are lower than those of flying to Mars and back again. You're better off playing the lottery at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:21 PM
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Well a large penis can get you a porn career, if you can get someone to introduce you to the industry. But yeah, most women don't stare at a man's crotch for more than a few moments, and unlike a woman's cleavage it's mostly under the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:18 PM
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So you agree about Bill Gates & Elon Musk at least :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:16 PM
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I knew the hot goth chick with a drug problem wasn't future wife material, but I banged her anyway. So now an incel has to choose between wifing up the now fat former goth chick (at best) who still isn't wife material OR remaining single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:14 PM
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Most incels are introverts, have "strange" body language. And while they aren't deformed they often have some unfortunate feature on their faces that makes them look a bit weird. For example, a lazy eye or a crooked nose or just something as simple as hereditary dark circles (which make a person look scarier & creepier).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:10 PM
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More virgin shaming. Most FA/TFL men who don't have the incel mentality are "interested in being accountable and figuring out what they were doing wrong". And guess what, they still have a hard time dating. If you're going to say that a man not being 100% dominant, in control and with abundance mentality is HIS fault, well I have this 30 km bridge called "Bullying Bridge" to sell you. For a lot of men it's not WHAT they do, it's WHAT they don't do, or WHO THEY AREN'T. Lots of FA & TFL men are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:02 PM
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Well, if you're not exaggerating, your personality is high enough to compensate for your height. What you have is a gift most men don't. Heck if I try to defuse a fight I'm only successful because both parties decide to punch me instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:54 PM
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No, Elon Musk and Bill Gates would be incels if they were run-of-the mill IT corp workers instead of lucky geniuses. Steve Jobs was decent looking so he'd be married to an ugly woman if he wasn't a genius and just worked a normal IT job. Elon Musk: https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/elon.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1 Bill Gates: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/04/09/105119253-YoungBillGates-GettyImages-627710450.1910x1000.jpg http:…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:42 PM
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Because marrying within my league looks-wise would only be possible if I accept being betabux to a gold-digging wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:41 PM
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What is nagging? It's an explanation of the effects your actions have on others. You can complain about bad actions without nagging. It's a request for assistance cleaning up a mess, literal or not, that she thinks you caused. FTFY. What's child support? Putting the responsibility of a parent's actions on said parents. Most men complain about alimony, not child support. And for a lot of men child support ends up being spent by the mom on herself. Plus you pay child support for a child you're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:37 PM
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I initially asked out my first girlfriend because she was a creative story teller, had a fun sense of humor and was already a part of my social group, so I had some mutual friends to "vouch" for her general sanity. I never sat down and thought "Is her SMV high enough for me?" I just, y'know, liked talking to her, and the more I liked talking to her the more I found her attractive and desirable. I grew to appreciate her flattering traits more (began noticing how much I liked her eyes when she smi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:23 PM
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Not really if you're a nerd working a corporate job, the best you can get is a 2 or 3/10. If you're funny, extroverted and spontaneous, maybe a 5/10. And that's almost regardless of how good looking you are (unless you're on Pietro Bosselli's level)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:19 PM
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Well you were a dealer. A badboy. I've met plenty of HS only badboys who date women with college, masters and even a doctorate in one case. Limits exist ONLY if you let them. Do you think Steve Jobs, or Prince, or russel brand or elon musk Guys like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and Elon Musk would be incels if they weren't geniuses who revolutionized their fields. Having to change the way people think of a mobile phone or build literal rockets to get women to date you is a bit of a crapshoot. Maybe St…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:13 PM
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Simple. Body positivism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:07 PM
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Try dating Katy Perry or Emma Watson and let us know how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:06 PM
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If you're ugly, you can make up for it by having a big penis. Unless you're packing a magnum XXL, no woman will be able to tell how big your penis is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:05 PM
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SMV is like in other markets, whatever one is willing to pay. Leagues do exist as people tend to remain in the same work fields. Fit people tend to prefer being fit and good looking people tend to remain good looking (for their age). But if a man who's a 9 is willing to "pay" his SMV for a woman who's a 7, there's not much anyone else can say about that. The only clear leagues are those where the SMV gap is big enough. For example: Kevin Smith (not a real person), a random 30 yo mailman, will al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:03 PM
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Not really. Why would I want a significant % of men to check out of society? And of course we won't return to the neolithic. Worst case scenario is we'd return to 19th century technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:04 AM
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I should've written the sentence in full. I agree with the OP title, I don't agree that complaining has a lot to do with it. Even super-bitchy women are more popular than beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:29 PM
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Do you go to activities where there are nerdy guys? If you stay at home, yeah there will be no orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:26 PM
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No, the irrefutable proof is that women have orders of magnitude more choice. In the abstract men and women have to choose from among those attracted to them. But IRL there are a lot more men attracted to the average woman than viceversa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:41 AM
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Well no shit men also hit a wall, but later than women do. Women's fertility usually ends in their late 30s - early 40s. Men's lasts until their early 50s - early 60s. Outliers exist for both sexes, and there are slightly more male outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:39 AM
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And a good body & good stamina.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:43 AM
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This is actually good advice, upvoted!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:39 AM
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With most modern women it's not worth the trouble at all. Most guys here are geeky types. Geeky girls are rare and have a ton of suitors / orbiters. As for "normal" women, the average guy has to put in double-time to even blip on her radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:39 AM
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Why put in effort for someone who doesn't give a shit about you? Because you need society's approval for A LOT of things in life. It may surprise you that a lot of men out there are seen as undesirable simply because they are average, the baseline, the norm. You might hate the idea, but to be successful (if you want that) you need to cultivate a mask that fits your appearance. Or change your appearance to fit your personality. Or, most often, a mix of both. If you don't care about success, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:35 AM
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You are E13V, and the sum of your experiences. I don't want to virtue signal but, honestly, dying with the world around your neck isn't worth it. You have a lot of decades ahead of you to concentrate on gaining social status and wealth. If you're not born a Tall, Dark & Handsome dude, it's a lot like Scarface: first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women. If you can play an instrument see if any bands around your area are looking for one. It's a way to get notoriety if…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:32 AM
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So, take a new one after the seven years is up. "I change my wives like I change my suits." :)) On a more serious note, IANAL and not a US Citizen but: Once married, your new wife is classified as an alien spouse. Immediately after marrying, you should apply for an Adjustment of Status, Form I-485, for your wife to become a permanent resident. If you plan to travel outside the country and re-enter before she receives her green card, apply for an advance parole. It may take a year or more before …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:13 AM
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OK, you're saying I'm making stuff up. I'm not going to argue over this since you want your narrative to come out on top. In fact a of PPD posters want their narrative to come out: That somehow, things in dating / parenting / family have only gotten better over the last 20 years. Sure some aspects have improved, women have more choice as to whom they can sleep and have children with, and there are fewer repercussions over a bad choice. Quality of parenting has gone down even in married couples, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 10:12 AM
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Watching TV all day isn't good for you. Eating all day isn't good for you. TLDR; No shit Sherlock. Consoles already have options to limit your own playtime. Use them? And stop shitting on games just because it's the newest media format?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:22 AM
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Not really, many women from poor countries have wised up that mail order bride is just a way to get a greencard and rich after the divorce. And many US men are realizing it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:20 AM
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Well no shit you need QA testing, but before the tester even gets to see the game/level, you're the one who has to hit F5/ F9 / Run / Load etc. I find it hard to believe you're a game designer who never touches even his own games. Hey if it's true, more power to you, must be a pretty rare occurrence to design rules that fit 100% perfectly within the engine rules and/or platform limitations. Either that or you have others under you who do it in your stead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:18 AM
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Except the nice nerdy guy will still want her and she'll still reject him. Once alpha widowed...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:25 AM
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Burden of performance is on men. Any new hobby that men adopt disproportionately will be hated by women. It's been true throughout history. Especially true when the man is ugly, it's just a socially acceptable way to make fun of "lesser" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:21 AM
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WTF do games have to do with that? You might as well add reading romance novels and watching tv to that list. Are we suddenly in the 90s again?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:15 AM
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I think its a victim mindset Except other people look down on gamers far more than we do on eachother or ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:14 AM
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People have died from working too much just as often. Working office jobs I might add. which for women makes for a vary boring man Ahhh, the crux of the problem. Well I don't care. Giving up on gaming has never made an ugly man more attractive to women. And from what I hear about these men they often don't act like adults despite being adult in age. Shit caught me red handed. I don't smoke and only drink on occasion. Such a childish way of life! Now tell me more about the theories surrounding th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:08 AM
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So, do you at least playtest your games or are you just that great of a designer you feel no need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:07 AM
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Lots of hobbies neither produce nor consume a lot. And others are in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:06 AM
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Gamer hate & stigma, yet again. Nothing new under the sun. It's the fucking winter holidays. I'm single. Between watching TV for 3 hours a day and gaming 3 hours a day I chose gaming. Today I'm packing up the console until the next holiday. A big hearty "Go fondle yourself" to everyone comparing gaming to doing drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:04 AM
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Except the large majority of women aren't put in that position. In a reverse world the majority of homeless should be women, does the show address that or is it just "#metoo reverse french edition"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:56 AM
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That looks more like "Feminist Revenge Fantasy... but not really".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:54 AM
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Single moms need good dads. :) But, then again, most men don't want to be Papa Cucked. :))
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:51 AM
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Herculan means it's very hard but still in the realm of possibility. Many of these guys have a greater chance of winning the lottery than finding a new GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:48 AM
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Well that's why you improve yourself and then go for a different set of women or move to a new place. ​ also, crab effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:49 PM
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Yeah I'm a beta (possibly even less than a beta) male because I'm socially weird, non-confrontational, have some mental issues and a couple of physical ones too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:45 PM
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Took a look at the sub, no idea what it was. If I read correctly, then yeah it can be if done consciously. It avoids paying too much sales tax (one of the few taxes we can avoid) for one. Smaller house = less taxes, cheaper bills, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:40 PM
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Happy New Year to you too, you prick! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:36 PM
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Not cheating in a dead bedroom situation? OK, I agree. Make divorce equitable for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:32 PM
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Nope I'd still blame the other party as well. These aren't newlyweds who didn't date long enough, they've been together for 23 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:30 PM
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Is women's love unconditional after 23 years? The guy may well be an asshole and should've talked separation if the relationship degraded. But we have nothing other than "he started going to the gym and is cheating". ​ My money is on "dead bedroom and she got quite fat" until further notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:29 PM
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He sacrificed for her too, it's not like he didn't bring anything for 28 years. Is she still willing to be intimate with him? Has she gained significant weight? This whole idea that if your SO isn't complaining then they're happy goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:26 PM
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What's that sound? Why it's the "SS Virtue Signaling"!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:23 PM
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Some men are trying but most of it would basically infringe on women's rights, and men don't want that. Most men don't want women forced back to the kitchen, they want to be liked by women. But women don't like (not romantically OR sexually) the large majority of men (be it 51% or 80%). When women date down or across it's mostly because they feel that they lack better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:20 PM
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Few people believe **the government** of all things should intervene. Doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:18 PM
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Of course my views wouldn't stand up in court. Courts prefer women as custodians by default via the doctrine that women somehow make better parents. Cue the stats on men (and women) raised by single moms and how much they fail at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:17 PM
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Yay for generalizing all single men as incels. Incel is the new "LOL, he can't get laid, what a loser!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:14 PM
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But if you have many women of childbearing age and only one man, the tribe's survival is assured. Not really, he'd get killed by men from other tribes and get the women shared among the other tribes. This IS one of the reasons pairing off became popular in humans. The alpha doesn't want to get killed by all the betas who can't find a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:11 PM
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Eh not really, even the most successful men had at most, EVER, ~9000 women at their disposal and didn't/couldn't impregnate all of them. It was mostly for show. http://www.futurescopes.com/non-monogamy/polygamy/417/10-largest-harems-history Plus you have the issue of risk of inbreeding. Still, when polygamy was unregulated your average man would have children with 3 - 4 women. Even nowadays the highest counts are for men who donate to sperm banks and it's still a total of AT MOST ~150-200 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:10 PM
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Over a long enough timeline women will choose beta men even less often than they do today. And if the fertility barrier is overcome "hypergamy" will stretch well into their 50s for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:05 PM
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It depends on the country / county but, generally, more often yes than no. Arrests that don't lead to convictions aren't immediately deleted and will still be archived for a number of years before being expunged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:01 PM
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Dropping out doesn't mean not working. It can mean anything from being a NEET, working a job that meets one's basic needs, one that lets him save a bit or just working for luxury and deciding to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:58 PM
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Basically, one bird does not make spring. There's a whole fucking lot more than one bird though. Even if you peel away all the incels, the TFL and the FA, there still A LOT of birds. It's not spring yet, but it's on the horizon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:56 PM
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Because they can't get any other woman without Sisyphean efforts. And contrary to what a lot of people here say, just intimacy alone (even foregoing sex) is very important to a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:54 PM
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Happy fucking New Year to you too! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:52 PM
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The fancy color hair + the bio take most them from "might as well since I can't aspire any higher" to "yeah, I'd rather be single than date her". Just like it's with clothes.If you're fit you can take a lot of liberties with your appearance.OTOH, if you're fat you're very limited on what clothes look decent on you. On some days when retaining water I have to skip breakfast and lunch or risk looking 20 kg over my real weight, simply because of abdominal bloating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:49 PM
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We can't call them alpha if we don't have a comprehensive picture of what they are like. Thankfully, you don't need one. Few women will have sex with, much less allow themselves to be impregnated by a guy who's not desirable. Thirdly, most children are born within the context of a long term relationship. And their number is shrinking by the day. Think about it this way. There are a lot of women who couldn't find a suitable (to them) man to marry in their 20s and 30s and are getting IVF or someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:43 PM
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Some of the posters in this thread brought up some stats about porn at work in the US. It doesn't surprise me per se that it happens (just google *"watched porn at work"*, LOL) yet it still amazes me. I guess it's not widespread enough to be a big problem but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:23 PM
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How am I hypocritical? I'm not expecting models or even fit women to like me. I'm just not really into rainbow hair and what it usually implies. BTW I don't even bother women (outside of normal daily interactions) so it's not like I'm out there breaking SJW hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:34 AM
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That's what teachers say when the local varsity athlete bullies the nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:21 AM
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Men have to give: empathy, support, consideration, etc. But since we're privileged to be stronger than women we can't ask for empathy, support or consideration. We're just mindless beasts who could snap at any moment and rob a random woman. If you had a bag of candy and one was poisoned would you dare eat any of the candy ? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:17 AM
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Oof... you're hunting me again. Please do tell me more about how many choices most men have. Men have to compromise on a lot more than women. "Happy wife, happy life" ring a bell? How come it's not "happy husband, happy life"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:56 AM
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Just choose your own partners based on your own preferences. Too bad most men literally can't do that. By the time the average man becomes somewhat desirable to the average woman, 60% of the women around him are already alpha widowed by Josh the linebacker or Martin the lead guitarist. Sure women mature with age, but if a kid popped out it's not the kid's fault and you "can't send the kid back" either. After a certain age, looking for a child-free woman is like looking for a virgin woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:50 AM
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Flirting for a free/discounted item, Getting out of a ticket These still happen to an extent. Fucking/flirting with their boss for preferential treatment/promotion These are kind of hard to get out of, but it depends on the company policy and the hierarchy. A lot of corporations look down on this, but if the man is the business owner himself / general regional manager it probably still happens. I've read about women doing this on tinder: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5858531/Student-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:46 AM
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Women tend to ask for "more compassion" from men they find to be their inferiors. The alpha guy doesn't get women coming up to him in his face and castigating him unless he's doing a very poor job. As for the OP's post, I also had a guy at work (left for another company) who had a similar issue of being brutally honest about things. His wife too taught him how to read in between the lines and look for subtle cues that, honestly most men aren't taught about. As for why the average woman doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:29 AM
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I'm 5'11, BMI of 29, gut that bloats whenever I eat. My face isn't that of a male model either. A lot of my matches on dating apps were rainbow hair obese feminists. Which is the main reason I gave up on dating. Now I'm not one to be hypocritical about fat in a woman since, again, I exactly don't have a six-pack or perfect genetic fitness. But my options right now make it really hard to want to go back to trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:24 AM
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Traverse City State Hospital Looks like it was the very definition of a locked ward back in its heyday. Sure the grounds were pleasant, but what's the difference at that point? We as a society still hate and find uncomfortable having to deal with our mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:18 AM
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I don't have a lot to say here. That's a very tragic set of circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:14 AM
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Because many feminist women don't actually find most alpha men all that toxic. I've seen a few feminist women argue with an alpha man over his sexism or display of misogyny in one breath and going down on him in the next. "Toxic masculinity" is overwhelmingly used to refer to unattractive or beta men displaying dominant behavior, i.e. "stepping out of line". I have had a male supervisor at least 20 years older than me express awareness that his lack of diplomacy, as he put it, was a challenge to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:09 AM
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Maybe there was more to those cases, yeah "real life isn't always so simple". But almost 30% of children born to single mothers can't be shaken off either. You can't deny there's some truth to the AF part. The BB might as well be the state, and not necessarily some particular man. And I don't really take pity on most BB men either. Many times BB is a guy gunning for a woman out of his league. They wouldn't accept the same from one in his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:06 AM
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Women no longer want to interact with the hoi polloi. It's as simple as that. They are ascended beings who only deserve pleasing interactions that don't stress them out or take them outside their comfort zones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:29 PM
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If some men (or women, or anybody for that matter) need to be more empathetic to the point where their directness is causing social issues, it is their own problem to solve. If women are so sensitive they need to be protected from interactions with undesirable men, it is their own problem to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:27 PM
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Feminists don't want men to change. They want ugly, undesirable men to stop asking them out, orbiting them and acknowledging their station in life as wage slaves for the propagation of feminism. And they want the hot, desirable guys to be a little more considerate to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:20 PM
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If you don't value the position of being a husband I don't any woman would value the position of being my wife but that's another thing altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:18 PM
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Let him change his age and not be able to collect pension anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:16 PM
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Dating related goals? Nothing. I have other goals, but can't promise anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:14 PM
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She was supremely lucky that her ex wasn't an asshole and agreed to split the house sale 50/50 so long as she didn't claim any of his pension, but he could have fucked her over haaaaard with very little effort. Would she have extended the same courtesy? Methinks not. She probably found a younger/hotter/whatever guy and wanted the house to have a place to bring her new lover to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:12 PM
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Then we are told that oh no they’re not married they’re just playing marriage and please take GF of the loan. Betabux. Oh and that’s not their kids, it’s the GF’s kids and not their own. Betacux too, I see. half assing marriage doesn’t work. You can’t propose and just live like you’re married. Yeah you can. When she gets bored of you, you don't lose half your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:10 PM
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I just want a lot of men to stop being so pathetic allowing women to use sexuality to exploit them out of money That won't happen. Most of the men who do this don't even have that naturally high of a libido or you'd see more of them arrested for sexual assault. Many of them tend to also have average to small penis length as well. For many of these men, they never got teenage love, and never managed to get over it so they have a self-induced inferiority fetish. This is why you see so many men "ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:08 PM
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You have smart Chads. You can bet your ass they're getting sidepieces too. And unlike gold digging women, gold digging Chads will often multiply the woman's wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:02 PM
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I thought guys who catcall did it indiscriminatly Guy who catcalled here usually did it to girl with big breasts and/or big butts. Only construction workers, gypsies and rich teenagers still catcall women nowadays though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:58 PM
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I catcalled a couple of women when I was 14. But that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:56 PM
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I've seen a lot more women know that their man sees other women and try to out-compete them, than I've seen men in similar arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:54 PM
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Yeah I only want the top 5% of women. I won't even f*%$ her unless she's at least as good looking as Sasha Grey and forget about marriage if she's not as good looking as Emma Watson. /s, in case it wasn't obvious enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:51 PM
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OK, OP is a good looking man who wants to benefit from less competition. I can't be on the money every time, but 3/4 on the money is still something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:49 PM
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Lots of severely mentally ill people oppose being taken in by an asylum. Mental illness isn't a flatbed of checkboxes. Not all mentally ill people are non-functional to the point of being vegetables. Cameras can still be disconnected, even cops do it often enough. Some mentally ill people can be brilliant and can still work, in some fields, IF THEY HAVE support in other areas of life. Back in the days of monasteries there were a lot of mentally ill men adopted as children (mostly abandoned by pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:48 PM
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I didn't mean that. I meant that most women get to party from 16-25 and they technically still have another 15-25 years to find a guy who's willing to put the past behind and a ring on her finger. Yeah, the fact that many want to "cash out" while still "young", get alimony and continue partying is waking many men up and the pool is drying up as a consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:43 PM
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Yeah my own country does too. And I'm not against it. I'm against sustaining other men's harems. Women should be asked for proof that they are using contraceptives before they get any more benefits. It's not like there's a lack of men willing to wife them up. There's a good 30% of women who only fuck the same small number of alpha males in rotation and have 5-6 kids with them. We can even bet on who the father is. It's not funny at all. My taxes are meant to support society at large not to fund …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:39 PM
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I see BB most often with single mothers looking for a provider That's a good 30% of women aged 18-40 right there. for people in high powered careers (engineer, lawyer, doctor) that are incredibly smart but non-alpha So an increasing amount of men then. We're moving further and further away from construction work, mining, etc. So we get these women who spent their 20s partying and manage to rope up a nerdy beta who doesn't know any better. get with a woman who is physically out of their league Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:31 PM
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Yep, but look at all the women posting on reddit and other sites like askgirls saying that all the guys who make advances on them are unattractive. Their total SMV obviously goes down. If you're a rich, successful man with good social skills, looking to settle down, why would you choose a woman of equal age or older? Men like these will go for a woman ~4-7 years younger who can give him more kids, less likely to end up as incel assburgers. Irrelevant -- what matters is their relative standing. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:22 PM
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trigger guys into not approaching women at all That is good dating advice for ugly men in 2018. Especially in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:15 PM
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That's actually sound advice for an ugly man in 2018.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:12 PM
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Q. So, let me ask you what unwanted sexual advance means. Is that -- is a request for a date an unwanted sexual advance, if it's unwanted. I mean, if someone asks you out that you don't want to go out with, is that an unwanted sexual advance? A. Probably not the first time, no. Probably is the key word here. If you're ugly enough, it's Probably sexual harassment. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:09 PM
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To think I used to find women like her attractive some years back. Poor guy, long term he's fucked. She'll likely cheat on him in a few years. In fact, are the kids even his? I had 3 before him and he took them on like his own. He’s been incredible to them and I feel so lucky. Oh! NVM LOL poor soul! If you're OK raising someone else's kids, just adopt FFS. Give a kid who has NO parents ONE parent. Don't get cucked raising another man's kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:01 PM
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Cydia says "Hi!" There are a lot of 3rd party appstores and you're subestimating women's need for dating apps. Cindy can always sweet talk Melvin into installing a dating app for her if she can't figure it out. And if Melvin is mischievous enough he'll also install something for him to get her nudes as well. When they were introduced, 8/10 times women went to net cafes, it was to go on to dating websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:55 PM
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AF/BB is almost always a spectrum unless we're talking gold diggers. No man wants to hear his GF married him because "he felt like her safest choice". And, especially nowadays, many women will spend their youth as personal pornstars for some highly desirable men, then choose the "safe guy", have a kid or two and then deadbedroom him as now "she's a different woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:51 PM
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OK, so why should a man take drugs that don't help him (at best they "help" women who aren't attracted to him, and even then feminism keeps moving the goalposts) and also have side effects. A man will take drugs and risk the side effects if those drugs are helpful to him. A pill that makes my dick not get up isn't very useful to me, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:46 PM
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Yeah but most homeless people also suffer from mental illness. In principle I'd agree with "teaching the poor to fish" and I'm certainly against welfare queens but what do you do about those who literally can't be trained into a modern job? Create "make work" jobs? Leave them to starve and get infected with treatable transmissible diseases that can infect others?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:43 PM
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Someone else will create a new app and distribute it through third parties. And it might also contain malware or even RAT-like software for the phones. It will lead to blackmail (even more than today). the only way which is also not probable to happen would be to educate males about this reality and what's the impact of their individual actions to the entire group It's always the guys isn't it? It's always the ugly, awkward guys who get blamed for it all and have to change their looks, their beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 12:56 PM
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Hey, looking at that guy. I could say I'm a complete dolt as well, not as much but still. This was good watching if nothing else. Also the gastronomist is taller, more wealthy and not as balding. But facially they're on par, yeah. That Stefan guy took the cake though. He was natural and detached (sure being good looking is a bonus) even as he was completely not attracted to that 39 yo woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:52 AM
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Thanks a lot, watched some of that. It looks closer to black pill than red pill though. I wish for a man that says "You are the woman I always wanted" It's the wrong men who declare their love for Nicole. Wrong men? Bad Boys? Nope Her current suitor would do everything for her - even a barbecue at -1°C. Got to know Nicole through his mother. Has been trying for 2 years. Gee I wonder how he LOOKS like? Yeah I see what kind of man she's wishing for, definitely not that guy though... Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:36 AM
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By that guide I'm a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:12 AM
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Not really. I am literally more attracted to many 5/10 women than more beautiful ones. Ultimately I want a good relationship, not me pedestalizing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:08 AM
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No actually the top 20% of the guys are having sex with 60% of the women. https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim But 80/20 is women's desire. And no, the bottom 80% of men aren't passing anyone around. The bottom 20% of women go for the top 20% of the remaining 80%, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:06 AM
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That shows in the fact that women over 30 do generally struggle to date, and don’t receive the same treatment as the younger, hotter girls. Only because they still think they "deserve" the same "quality" of man they got in their 20s, only he also has to be rich now. Women in their 30s STILL TURN DOWN A LOT OF MEN FOR JUST DATING. We're not even talking about sex. I don’t have it out for any of these women by the way. I’m a young guy, they’re barely even my generation. I find it more disturbing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:57 AM
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AF/BB is real and I've seen it happen so many times that it hurts just typing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:54 AM
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Not really the number of truly hot women is the same as that of truly hot men. It's just that we as men care less about physical perfection and generally find youth and a shapely body much more important than a woman's face. It's the whole reasoning behind stuff like "butterface". Men would hook up with close to 70-80% of women if they could. Women would maybe date only the top 20% of men if they could. But neither women nor men are in a vacuum, and men DO hold the power in a relationship, but o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:53 AM
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Yeah but it's bundled up with other kinds of social support. Things that ARE needed (the old, the poor, those who can't work due to illness).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:46 AM
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It depends on how hawt the guy is. Women have been known to tear a guy's pants off after as little as 35 minutes. But those are really rare cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:44 AM
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Unless you are very good looking AND she's making obvious efforts to get you to flirt with her, it's NOT OK to ask a woman out. At least not in current year. Wait another decade or so to see how things unfurl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:42 AM
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Men are very horny but not to the point where they can't do work. Sure men might fantasize about Tracy from finance and Josh (the office Chad) might even get to fuck her. But most men care about their food basket a lot more than they care about access to beef curtains. Few men will risk their jobs and productivity that way. You just want ugly men to be slaves to their work. Worst of all, you want it as to somehow make penance for being born ugly. Because an ugly man should obviously compensate b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:39 AM
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You wouldn't be. You still need to rest. Find a job in a male dominated field if you fantasize about your women co-workers too much. Also, don't watch porn at work wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:33 AM
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Prohibition doesn't work...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:32 AM
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shell, in aggregate, billions of dollars and billions of productivity hours on fantasies of women When they could spend that time enriching their employers instead. Don't "just fap" at home, take some work with you. 8 hour workdays are for chumps... wink, wink Why does society shit on ugly men? We build your houses, your roads, your software, we unclog your toilets. Are we SO unbearable the only place left for us is in the underbelly, unseen and unheard of ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:30 AM
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So... just what happens nowadays only more extreme? A lot of women would be left out though. Even alphas only have a success rate of ~20-30% and even if they got to have sex with a different woman every day, there STILL wouldn't be enough alphas to cover all the women. Even in a big city where there are ~50.000 desirable alphas, that's still 1 million people, 500.000 women. Calculating for age & social class that's still 50.000 men shared across ~300.000 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:27 AM
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TBH there's nothing you can do if you're in the bottom % of men unless you count becoming incredibly rich & successful. And that's something only a few people manage to achieve, even with hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:23 AM
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Yep those are the standards, yet even setting legal issues & STD risk aside you still have social shaming & ostracization. Men who visit hookers are endlessly shamed for it. Men who EXCLUSIVELY vist hookers are seen as losers who must pay to get a woman to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:21 AM
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No but you will convince people to not let others starve. Pure Capitalism is the freedom to starve to death through no fault of your own. Most people are OK with some form of social benefits (free food & shelter, some forms of free healthcare) for the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:17 AM
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Not really: rich ugly men are still seen as complete failures. And ugly women can still settle for beta bux. Most just don't want to. The ugliest, fattest women I personally know are all married & have children. Just one of them isn't married now but she was in the past. And she still gets hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:12 AM
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SSRIs also kill your creativity though. Perfect if you want to live life as a sentient vegetable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:11 AM
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Nah OP is either a woman who wants the bottom 63% of men to stop hitting on her. OR OP is an ugly / average man who wants to be the one not to take the pill and benefit from reduced competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:08 AM
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IF you have a chick to smoke pot with, yeah, it helps. Smoking pot on your own... hahaha not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:00 AM
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Construction and law careers are just small slices of the pie. There aren't that many men working construction jobs anymore. And in some years there will be women female lawyers than men. Already more than 1 in 3 lawyers is a woman. Individually, the most money to be made in a single "slice" is in the tech sector. Which is exactly what women hate the most. Also what the fuck is a construction worker going to use his "extra productivity" for. It's a job with well regulated standards and it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:53 AM
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These drugs have nasty side-effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:49 AM
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If men got that tech women would be singing a very different tune. MGTOW is at best 2% of the male population and many women are already going nuts over it. Let's just imagine if 70% of all bottom 90% men "shut off" their sexual impulses Hahaha. Tell me why does it have to be the bottom 90% of men? This whole post is just a convoluted way to say "I wish ugly men stopped hitting on me". Also who the fuck watches porn at work? And regularly? hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:47 AM
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At that point I'd rather start doing tax evasion. No way I am paying for men to have active harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:31 AM
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Isn't it basically the same for hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:15 AM
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So, without what are you trying to say here? I never said reddit (or any other online community) paints any kind of accurate picture of how society works at large. If you want to look at outliers, some men are OK with being cucks, and manage to find a partner that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:42 AM
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I don't know why I even bother... this isn't something that's fixable, much less easily so. Fine, whatever you people continue arguing here till you turn blue in the face, IDGAF anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:44 PM
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He’s both v sweet and engaged and then will detach without a discernible reason. He’s often dealing with emotional pain he cannot articulate. He’s self possessed and only gives her the attention he wants to give... Which is fucking annoying and addictive as hell to young women... how obsessed I was with a dude like him in my 20’s. Sounds like a classic troubled hot guy. I'm pretty sure troubled average-looking guys don't get women obsessing over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:38 PM
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You mean on reddit? Probably, any woman who reads my posts is wasting her time. But that's her choice. IRL, at least for me personally, I gave up on dating so no, I'm not wasting any woman's time unless, for some reason, she wants to waste it herself. Also, hey, whatever works for them. You all wanted sex to be amoral, well now it is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:35 PM
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Thanks for contributing this small history lesson. Still you're forgetting that many of the so called left are so disparaging of gay men that they ask undesirable men "why not turn gay?" (or, even worse "why not fuck each other?" which is a different can of worms). They themselves find the identity of same-sex attraction undesirable enough to be OK with consigning men they don't want to see as sexual beings to this identity. And yes I know it's more of a "sweep it under the rug" (i.e: "why don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:27 PM
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It certainly doesn't seem that way if you look around you. Also how is it projection? There is no false abundance of hot women. Men find over 60% of women attractive enough for both casual sex and relationships and are often willing to lower their standards even further if the woman provides other incentives. Men don't really suffer from FOMO (not to the extent women do). Heck, FA & TFL guys are more likely to suffer from FOMO than Chads are (due to romantic & sexual deprivation). There's also n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:25 PM
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IDK, reddit, for one, is full of guys who can't get laid more than once in a blue moon (if that). Same for a lot of other online communities. In my, admittedly anecdotal, experience most guys have abysmal sex lives. Masturbation, sex toys and visiting hookers seem to be the main supplement for a lot of guys especially after they hit 30. Doesn't mean there aren't any unattractive guys who have healthy sex lives, they're just very rare. Heck even highly attractive men go through periods where they…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:15 PM
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They'd probably fight over and kidnap all the pretty boys. :))
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:02 PM
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no it's not. it's the opposite. and most women don't even want to date the average guy much less fuck him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 11:12 AM
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If companies hired employees using the same selection process women use to date they'd reject 60-80% of the candidates from the get-go, put the rest through 10 interviews with half the shareholder board (but not a single technical interview) and still end up hiring unqualified candidates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:31 AM
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That or the fact that she's over 6' means she most likely rejects 5'8 - 6'0 men (the large majority) and she wants a guy as tall or taller than she is. A woman similar to Orange_Paisley's friend is a friend of my mom. She's 175 cm tall, was married at one point but her husband left her for a younger woman after her second miscarriage. She tried dating a few more times before finally moving back in with her own mom and taking care of her to the death bed. She rejected the large majority of men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:27 AM
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Of course it is, in the end we're all human. What's ugly is that we expect a large portion of the (especially male) population to virtuously trudge along through potentially lifelong loneliness. And if they ever complain we are sure to shut them up and remind them of their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 10:15 AM
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So that's what if feels like when a woman tries to have sex with the large majority of men? Well then Merry Catsmas it is. You do realize women's sexual preferences are mostly sculpted by media, no? It's less about women finding 60-80% men to be unfuckable and more about being told all their life "you don't have to settle", the false abundance of hot men, fear of missing out and analysis paralysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:58 AM
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"Just be gay, bro." Nice! This one is for the books!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:53 AM
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Nah he's just observing the girls. Problem is the girls he points out do exist. Most of them are either young party girls or sex in the city type of women. And men should really stop chasing that demographic of women. You don't want a thot GF. Relationships are hard enough without having to please a thot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:52 AM
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Well a lot of single women do have many men in their lives, and many men they date too. To them being single simply means they don't have an official boyfriend, not that they have nobody to go out with or even hook up/have a fling with. OTOH, for most men being single, literally means, at best, having nobody but a few mates you can drink a beer with. Sure single men can also date but you won't see a lot of guys dating multiple women simultaneously. I get it that you want to paint this picture wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:42 AM
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Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:26 AM
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Just as a nitpick, are you sure they're married despite earning more? It's not like wives will break off their marriage as soon as they earn $100 more than their husbands. Also were they earning more before the marriage happened? This may sound like moving the goalposts (and maybe it is) but wasn't this about women who already outearn their boyfriends or potential husband prospects (if still single) well before the marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 06:05 AM
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I'm not a native speaker though I have been using English for a while. You're most likely right. Then again a lot of people shame others for in-group validation. For example Republicans shame socialism and SJWs shame republicans, all in the name of in-group validation. Girls shame ugly nerds for things their boyfriends or even themselves may well enjoy (stuff like games, manga, anime, comics, board games, superhero movies, etc.). Many if not most of the articles shaming men and toxic masculinity…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:43 PM
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A modifier of 100 over a base value of 0.0001 still yields only 0.1. A great personality can't compensate (by itself) for any kind of large deficit in how people look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:10 PM
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True, but it's a toxic market built upon a self-destructive cycle. In-between SJW righteousness and male creepiness the money will eventually run dry. Don't forget most SJWs want ugly nerds to be out of a job and replaced by at least hot, highly desirable men if they can't be replaced by women. And i doubt there are even enough "Jorges" to pick up after all of the "Anfisas". Much less highly desirable alpha men. A lot of the guys who stay with these girls do so because a share of her money goes …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:03 PM
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Same could be said of men, tbh. People are no better or worse than they've always been, the dynamic has just been altered. Do you know how many guys I've known who admit they fuck crazy chicks just cause they're hot and available, the consequences and drama be damned? That's not the same at all. Men never pretended listening to their selectivity gives them access to better LTR partners. Most men are very frank about their preference for physical attractiveness. The idea of a some kind of built-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:57 PM
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Most transwomen are very far from looking as feminine as Bailey Jay. The average transwoman is closer to this guy: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/5b33995c352f535c7e8b45e5/1530108256283/?format=2500w Than she is to looking "like a woman". Even with extreme examples like the Slaton sisters you can still tell they're women. It's kinda hardwired. Also becoming more open to transwomen won't get the average guy laid/dating more often. Transwomen still pine for hot du…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:40 PM
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A systemic bias in the dating field against trans people, short men, fat people, etc is awful, but you can’t tell individuals what they should like. Absolutely true. I would of course encourage everyone to be open minded and try to look past the superficial, but beyond that you can’t force a relationship if you as a person don’t bojangle their dangle. Also true. The only issue here is that a lot of what people "like" nowadays is more of a fancy. And yes you can't tell people whom to fancy. But y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:32 PM
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As hateful as it sounds, transpeople perpetuate gender roles, they don't end them. Because transpeople depend, in large part on gender roles. Without these, most transpeople are just stuck inbetween male and female in an uncanny valley that's likely worse than never transitioning in the first place. Let's be rudely honest for a moment. Most transpeople don't end up very sexually appealing to begin with and still look a lot like their initial gender. Even if you were open mentally to the idea, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:09 PM
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My only issue with modern digital sex work is that it creates & feeds false fetishes where none exist. Fetishes are generally things reserved for people who want to explore something fresh and new. Modern sex work is mostly based on exploiting the thirst of virgin & near-virgin men under the guise of a legitimate fetish. How in hell can a guy who sees pussy live at most once a year can come to the conclusion he's got a "financial slave" fetish? Much more likely it's just the only kind of sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:35 PM
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If things were more balanced between genders I'd be more inclined to agree with you. Maybe in your case it's true, I can't say for sure. As for women having to go through some weeds, judging by the way the average woman reacts interacting with most men, you'd be tempted to assume that men are "mostly weeds". But if that's true, than by the principle of sheer numbers women are "mostly weeds" too. Which leads us back into the "fuckable / unfuckable" argument. There's also the issue of women's sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:16 PM
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Hey I'd like free money and to focus on things I want to do vs. things I HAVE to do too. In fact, I'm pretty sure most people would. Hehe... Also, I'm pretty sure the lowkey roasting she gets from her BFFs is a lot worse than the actual physical act of fucking an older guy. Heck the sugar daddy likely tries his best to please her during sex more than her side guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:53 PM
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Yeah the sugar babies who cry on camera are definitely my favorites. The funniest are those who say they feel worthless and disgusted at having had sex with old men. But they definitely like the money and the freedom...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:36 PM
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Because it's apparently unethical and immoral? And apparently women are forced into it by an unfair and patriarchal system that exploits them? Well technically most webcam aggregators ARE owed by men, then again most pimps are male as well. OTOH they do get an option most men don't have... Most men have to choose between "trading your time for piss as far as compensations concerned & coming home smelling like ass/fry grease late at night" (or an equally low paying/degrading job) AND "being homel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:29 PM
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60% of the time it's 99% accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:24 PM
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In law school too I think. Also in finance school, where I live (4 women for every 3 men).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:20 PM
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I even has a negative effect if the child is THE ONLY child she takes care of. It really depends on the age, but unless there's strict discipline, growing up with a nanny DEFINITLEY changes the way a person sees the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:19 PM
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Try "girls just tapping on a microphone and reading stuff". Heck, try "girls poorly playing video games while talking to fans". Prostitution I understand! This, though... Male thirst makes things worse for all of us...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:18 PM
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To quote the Orange Leader (one of his few quotable things): "It doesn't exist, folks.".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:16 PM
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Hey most sex workers wouldn't want to date the average Joe either so it's not like there's a huge gap to be covered. Plus a lot of (especially illegal) sex workers are technically "dating" their pimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:13 PM
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Obviously if McDonalds paid part time students $17/h they wouldn't have to resort to this. At least for 2 year public colleges. But why would McDonalds pay a part-time student $17 an hour? That student isn't even interested in a long-term career inside McDonalds Corp and (for obvious reasons) doesn't care a lot for the job. Poor students can opt for a 3-year night class college and work too. Yes it's hard as fuck, but isn't it better than selling your ass on camera online? Apparently for a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:08 PM
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Really, THE ONLY leverage they have? What about other kinds of jobs? This is similar to girls who get into stripping "to pay for college". While I'm sure some do, and some are coerced into it, a large part of women who go into sex work do so because it's easier than many of the alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:04 PM
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The demand is high and the supply is low. Enough young women have been desensitized to various sex acts to the point where this is becoming a sustainable career. And the market is nowhere near flooded. Some of the guys who pay are just looking for a different way to have a good time, but most of them are socially inpet men for whom, short of paying a hooker, this is the only way they can see a live woman indulge SOME SORT WHATSOEVER of erotic fantasy of theirs (most of which are very tame, given…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:00 PM
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Your definition is correct. However a lot of words have lost their original meaning. Shaming in this case is more about venting to get positive validation from you peer group than it is about having hope to actually change your target's behavior. Both ends of the spectrum are equally faulty here. EDIT: To clarify: If "sluts" took RP advice to heart it would just result in more single, dateless women. Most women would still rather be single than with your typical RP man. If "insecure, bitter, sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:08 PM
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Even if that was true, there are a lot of "bitter, angry, small dicked losers who can't get laid" whom, at the same time, are also right. This is just failure to separate the message from the messenger. Just cause you hate the messenger doesn't mean the message is garbage. Some golden nuggets come packed up in garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:05 PM
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There's not getting validation and then there's getting pissed on for shit that's not yours, just cause you were at the wrong place, wrong time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:03 PM
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E. You're being told to man up and stop complaining when you never complained to begin with. F. You're being blamed for things that were clearly the result of happenstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:00 PM
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Hey, glad it worked out for you in the end. It's definitely one of the less common ways couples meet but that just makes the relationship that bit more special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:56 PM
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I just replied to what you said. I have no idea what a high N-count is in your initial reply and never meant to make any assumption outside what you wrote. Now, 100+ is obviously & definitely not the norm for women and it's not about the N count. You said being a slut allows you to define a frame of reference for the man you'd want to be your partner. I'm just saying that's, at best, an incomplete frame. And at worst it's a completely wrong frame. You'll have enthusiastic sex with him for how lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:52 PM
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Only half-joking. "Putting yourself out there" really only works for women and a select few men. In my experience contacting friends even as little as once a week can be seen as too clingy. It really depends on what those your friends feel they can get from you and how much you're sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:41 PM
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I'm wondering what kind of women you are dating... Also, why not tell the girl you don't want a threesome? And why are you agreeing to continue seeing women in open/poly relationships after you find that out? It's DEFINITELY not like there's a shortage of women who want a monogamous relationship. As for wanting to stay settled, I get you. A lot of (even long term) relationships don't make it past the 5 year mark. EDIT: edited for wrong gender. You're the man, man. You're in power. At 100+ partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:38 PM
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Well they were the cream of your crop. Doesn't mean they were 9's & 10's. Anecdotally speaking, I've seen women tend to rate men they were disappointed by as worse looking than they actually are. I.E: A woman who was tricked, pumped and dumped will rate the guy who's a 7 as a 5 or even 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:36 PM
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And I mean legitimately not like “I wait for people to ask me first and then show up half the time half heartedly for a half an hour”. So bug people out by appearing clingy? What does "putting yourself out there regularly" even mean at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:44 PM
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You don’t sound like you’re in a good place to be dating at all honestly. Focus on friendships and maybe go to therapy. That's a great platitude but a man can become so broken that he can't form friendships and therapy can't help him. It's not like dating is fundamentally that different from friendship. Yeah people are more likely to hang out with you when you're NOT trying to get in their pants. BUT OTOH dating is just friendship + sexual attraction for most people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:41 PM
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You don't gain self-respect by lifting heavy objects and eating chicken breast. You gain self-respect by being successful at reaching the goals you set and having those successes validated by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:38 PM
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Do stuff for yourself, so you can be satisfied with the person you are. What if the person you're satisfied being is someone financially successful but otherwise undateable and unfuckable ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:36 PM
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Put effort into yourself for you. Run so you can live a long healthy life. Pick up hobbies because you enjoy them. What if you don't enjoy any of those hobbies? What if the only hobbies you enjoy are solitary ones? What if you are an introvert but still want companionship and sex? Most men who do this do it only partly for themselves. Heck many gym-going men learned to love exercise over time and only started as a way to improve their social standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:33 PM
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Get angry, go to the gym, punch a boxing bag, and then chill out. It's not your fault, and it's not the women's fault either. With things like these, more often than not, it isn't anyone's fault. I was dumped back in May by the girl I was in love with and I hate her for it but at the same time I want her back so bad. Most men will feel that way. I have a feeling she and I will talk again, but I just can't let go of the feeling that I'm owed something. You could just talk and see what she wants w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:30 PM
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If you try to engage physically with a girl, but she doesn't reciprocate, can you take this as consent? Are you ugly/unattractive? If yes it most likely means NO. Are you hot? If yes it likely means NOT RIGHT NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:25 PM
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LOL @ extreme endomorph. Athlete Type should've been "e-sports". :))
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:22 PM
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Adam Driver - Tall AF, personable, abundance mentality Nick Jonas - Famous, Personable Donald Glover - GL, personable Daniel Radcliffe - GL, famous, personable Jeff Goldblum - Tall AF, GL, famous, personable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:20 PM
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It was the reverse for me. Mom's boss' daughter liked me. I couldn't let it turn into a risk for my mom so I played the loser until she gave up trying. It wasn't too hard since I am kind of a nerdy loser, but back then I was somewhat decent looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:13 PM
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On average, men's fertility declines slower than women's. I'd say 45 is around the spot where a man's fertility starts taking a dive on average. Some men have fathered kids until 80. Some women have gotten pregnant at 45 and even 60 (with medical treatments). Neither of those cases are even close to the average. Generally, if you want healthy kids, have them in your late 20s, early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:10 PM
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Same as men with high N-counts. They see all as interchangeable dicks/vaginas. Sex no longer has any long term value for. Standards for looks money and status rise. Leading to "where are all the good men/women" syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:08 PM
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10 years as a woman to get to 100 men actively desiring that? You must have only given the cream of the crop access to your vagina. If you were to date just once a week and have sex only on the 3rd date it would only take a woman 6 years to reach an N count of 100. And most women date more than once a week, and it's usually multiple guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:04 PM
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Sure, we have conditions in the brain that make us want to fuck, but this idea that there's some ingrained evolutionary reason for wanting X woman or avoiding Y woman is pretty silly. There are only so many highly desirable men. Shaming them won't make them want less desirable women more. Why not turn it the other way around? Sure, we have conditions in the brain that make us want to fuck, but this idea that there's some ingrained evolutionary reason for wanting X man or avoiding Y man is pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:52 PM
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so I collect a frame of reference for the kind of guy I want to be with for the rest of my life. So now you have: a high N count a very narrow pool of men you'd want a LTR with most of whom are already taken Where does that leave you ? My standards changed with every one-some got higher and some were lowered. I'm guessing looks standards lowered from "David Beckham" to "Chris Pratt" and everything else was raised. Not going to call you a slut. The problem we all suffer from is FOMA. More so for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:42 PM
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None of those women was a 4 to begin with. People's grading senses are out of whack. Plus, all those girls are a lot more attractive in their "before" pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:18 PM
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It's "OK" to do whatever you want as long as you're not hurting others.But being a nice guy it won't be very effective. Get as attractive as you can and be more direct.If it works, it works. If it doesn't, that's life.No use doing the dog and pony show and being a β-orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:07 PM
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It's become too easy for you to seduce women. Now YOU are the one who will have to settle. Ideally the best N count for both sexes would be around 5-7 people at 30 and then they should look into finding a more permanent partner. Good luck with that though. For every guy like you there's 30 ForeverAlone men who are still virgins at 30 (or only slept with hookers). EDIT: To answer your question, no I'm not looking to surpass 100 partners and neither are most men. In fact I'm pretty sure you weren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:53 PM
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So you only get attention from men you find ugly (and therefore creepy) or genuinely creepy guys regardless of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:42 PM
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"The Wall" did exist in the past. The age after which women were considered spinsters and it became stupid easy to marry one of them as competition from other men was scarce. After the sexual revolution, more men than ever (even in their 20s) are trying to date / hook up with older women (even 10+ years in some cases). So no, women no longer have a well-defined "wall" to speak of. As long as they themselves still want to date men, but that's another topic for another time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:30 PM
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TRP's hate for career women is legendary. Many career women think their s**t don't stink (compared to most men). That's what some men hate about them. Others hate that career women get a lot of things going far easier than a man in a similar position would. But then TRP's hate for hypergamy - women who seek men of higher status / means than themselves - is also legendary. It's so simple, you wrote it yourself. Career women disdain husbands who earn less. As more women become career oriented they…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:20 PM
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