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Low-effort ad hom that anyone can do "You are unable to refute your opposition so you employ a mental defense mechanism in which you attempt to paint all those who debunk your points as incredulous, irrational individuals who ought to be ignored and are not to be listened to" -Insert the same generic quote because it's broad enough to also fit here just as well- "The problem is definitely not me, it's everybody else" ~Tim Pool (le intellectual) See how easy it is to make shit up about another pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:53 AM
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"A shortage of men is easier to overcome than a shortage of women" is not the same as "women are more necessary than men". I agree with the first claim, but the second one is plain wrong. Don't pretend they are equivalent. This is bait and switch. There's no such thing as "more necessary" and "less necessary". It's a binary thing, either something is necessary or it isn't, no in-between. Dietary calcium is necessary for human survival, but so is iron. We need A LOT more calcium than iron, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:27 PM
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"But we need more women than men" do you even realize how far off the actual definition of the word 'superior' this is? You're just saying random things that have nothing to do with superiority. Sure, we'd fare better with a shortage of males than a shortage of females because they carry the baby and therefore cannot reproduce again at that time. You could just as easily flip this around and say men are superior because one man can impregnate many women simultaneously, i.e. one man = multiple wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:21 PM
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Ultimately in the game of life survival matters and men need women in that department more than the other way around. Whichever way you look at this, it just doesn't make sense. Speaking individually, both men and women can survive without each other. Speaking as a species, both men and women would die out as they can't reproduce without each other. Inb4 "muh artificial parthenogenesis". If artificial reproduction counts, then men can do it too. We already made artificial wombs and embryos witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:12 PM
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It depends how you define superior. OP defined it as physical strength and leadership skills. You define it as the ability to pump out babies (assuming that's what you mean by saying we need less men than women for survival of the species). Btw, I don't think OP is making some profound point either tbh lol. A bit besides the point, but don't you think having competition will make you "superior" in many ways to those who don't have to compete? Competition pushes you to constantly refine your skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:06 PM
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So what you're saying is he forgot to add tall koreans and tall japanese men to the list?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:30 AM
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I don't think anyone ever says that “80% of women date 20% of men” aside from people who are making a strawman. The actual claim is that 80% of women rated 20% of men as above average in looks and the rest below average in the (in)famous okcupid dating study. Alternatively, people will often extrapolate from that that women are only attracted to a tiny pool of men and see vast majority as undesirable. They might settle for a man they aren't physically attracted to for various reasons tho. To ans…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:25 AM
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Or a lot of women being used for sex by the one guy, while only one of them gets to marry the guy, while the rest end up unhappy. Why do you find this so unbelievable? That's basically what's happening (except the chad isn't necessarily taking advantage of those women since a lot of them are just looking for casual sex anyway). And indeed, the ones who manage to secure the top-tier guy do end up happier long term. For example, there are studies suggesting women with taller husbands are happier. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:22 AM
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And most people agree it's toxic, or at the very least trashy. No one thinks of it as a high art and pretends to be an intellectual for watching a lot of porn. On the flip side, I've seen "intellectuals" who set a goal on how many books to read in a year include romance novels in that count and be super proud of themselves. I don't see what's so enriching in seeing the regular girl get with the same looking high status mountain-sized chad for the millionth time (or alternatively in a love triang…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:55 AM
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There are many solutions, you are just incapable of thinking outside the box. For example, in a society that is aware of these issues and the parents know how important height is, they could now pay attention to how tall their male children are. If doctors predict their height to be short, they can act in time and get them on hgh. A massive problem solved. We already have the technology to edit genes, perhaps some time down the line we could use that to alter the appearance of those who are pred…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:02 AM
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How many murdered women do you personally know?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:58 AM
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I checked a couple of pics and to me they are just normal looking guys. Imagine a male version of this broad and that would be more or less in the same league as these dudes. And yet, they are used as examples of ugliness whereas she is used as an example of beauty based solely on the fact she is female and they are male. Assuming you aren't a troll, you just proved the exact opposite of what you were arguing.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:54 PM
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unless someone is in danger, you should never hit a woman Why not extend that to men? If men were punching each other unprovoked, that would still be see as wrong by most people because they don't suffer from whiteknight brain rot like you do. I'd also add an exception to the rule and say you should be allowed to punch if you've been punched yourself, regardless of if you're in danger or not. Like if someone hits you and then wants it to end right there one-sidedly, I say fuck that entitlement, …
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:55 AM
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We need women to follow their biological drive and mate with the top 1% chads. Humans already critically lack genetic diversity because of previous disasters and migration creating genetic bottlenecks. What a brilliant idea to willingly create another one, especially when more are likely coming in the future. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I care about the human race, but I assume that's what you mean by "good thing" (if not, you might wanna define what "good thing" are you suggesting we try…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:31 AM
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-"They can summon her whenever they want, talk about whatever they want, sext her whenever they want. She has no expectations, no needs beyond what you might ask her to 'simulate' just to make her seem more realistic." -"You've just described generic relationship between Chad and girl that gets wet around him." Lol I love all the comments from female-centric subs that say "the bar for men is in hell!!" because these relsationships above is where these thoughts form. The bar for chad is in hell.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:35 AM
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Don't try to play troll now as a coping mechanism lol
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 07:07 AM
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My only conclusions here is that generalizations can be useful in some situations and that you are a moron. Both good conclusions. I never made any moral judgements. I don't move from simple observation (statistic says x) to ludicrous moral judgement (therefore we ought to ostracize group y) as readily as you apparently. Ofc it seems like an obvious conclusion to you because you are a moron.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 06:37 AM
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Let me guess, the next thing is that it's perfectly fine to be scared of black people based on crime statistics, right? Is-ought fallacy. If statistics dictate that there's a correlation between a certain demographic and crime, than that is a fact, but it would be fallacious to draw judgements on moral value from just facts about the world. You try to use an oppressed race for emotional manipulation, but that's really all there is to your smooth-brained argument.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 07:09 PM
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You proved me wrong, therefore you are incel One minute, you're unique, but for women, it's totally fair to apply generalizations and speak for them. One doesn't exclude the other. Everyone is unique, but you can still find patterns in groups of unique individuals. Is it wrong to say drug addicts are on average less healthy? Because that's a generalization. If we weren't allowed to make generalizations, the society as we know it couldn't function, moron.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 06:25 PM
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I know all of this is mind-blowing Your sarcasm is telling me you already know this isn't anything new, but a tired, old, worthless platitude. So if you can acknowledge that, then why post it at all? Muh "every individual is le unique, therefore we can't know anything and can't discuss anything." Yes, some generalizations won't apply to every individual case in existence, but they can still be accurate. Sociology, psychology, economy and many other fields make generalizations. And indeed, some r…
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 04:42 PM
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It's not on the same level as being disabled, but it's brutal enough to consistently affect stats on life satisfaction and suicide rates. Ofc you don't think it's a big deal because you never had to experience it. AI waifus and realistic sexdolls have been a thing for quite some time. Though I could see it becoming advanced enough in the future to improve quality of life for permavirgins. There are already dudes falling in love with robowaifus which was almost unthinkable when chat bots first be…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 12:32 PM
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I'm talking about your reasoning, not the video. You say you don't wanna go for your looksmatch out of empathy for your potential future son (you wouldn't wanna see him struggle), but at the same time you are perfectly willing to take the 50/50 risk of creating a lifetime of struggle for your potential son, right? That's a conflicting view. Even if adoption is off the table, why even make kids at all if you think there's a high chance of creating a lifetime of suffering for someone? It doesn't s…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 05:44 PM
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So by your own logic, you would be willingly going into this 50/50 risk and potentially giving your child a lifetime of hardship? That almost sounds psychopathic. At that point why not just adopt?
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 01:01 PM
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Who??? I even gave you a specific name for an example. Do you not know how to use search engines? I guess this was pointless from the beginning because I assumed you had the skillset that you clearly don't. It means you can't tell if they're male or female. It doesn't exist you weirdo. No, it means possessing both masculine and feminine traits. Just google it. Or borrow a dictionary if you actually can't google stuff. But even then, people like that do exist. My female coworker gets mistaken for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:20 AM
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1 it's never been done using a scientific method lol You even acknowledge later down the line that it's a thought experiment and you STILL say this. It's a little personal "experiment", it's meant for you to try it (and be honest with yourself), but you lack the few brain cells required for the most basic abstract thinking. Every single human is female or male. Ok, so just imagine a female as if it were male and vice versa. You can't tell me you can't imagine Tenshin Nasukawa, for example, as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:37 AM
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Women aren't more attractive because they work more on their attractiveness. It's like you said in another comment - if men worked to be attractive in the same way women do, it just wouldn't work out as well. I think the real reason is that we are wired to cut women more slack and subconsciously perceive them as better looking just by the virtue of being a woman alone. Try a little experiment: Find some pics of androgynous looking people, both male and female. Then try imagining the person in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:22 PM
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I think there would be a lot more variation in men's picks. Men's preferences regarding height, weight, body type, etc. are all over the place, but women's pretty much only swing one way. And I'm not talking about men who just get what they can, I'm talling about who they'd pick as the ideal.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 04:33 AM
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Sexy son hypothesis is a real thing in evolutionary biology and it's nothing like the bullshit you're describing. It has nothing to do with peaceful society (in fact, when it comes to mammals, the sexually successful males are usually the most violent and the biggest troublemakers). Basically females choose sexy mates in order to have sons that will be more sexually successful, thus ensuring their genes continue to spread far and wide. It's not a conscious choice tho, it's simply like that becau…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 04:28 PM
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The short haired girl looks much younger than the other girl, but they could very well be peers if they are hanging out like that, so you can't really tell age by looks alone. None of them look anything close to middle-aged tho, even the guy looks like a kid through and through. You must be very young yourself if he looks middle-aged to you. They're all probably college students like someone above pointed out by making a connection with where this was filmed. How do they look scared? They are la…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 09:25 AM
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I don't think safety is the primary reason for women's pickiness and your comment about how big body size difference makes you feel unsafe really highlights how nonsensical that notion is. If safety were the primary reason, then why do women always chase after men who are much bigger and stronger than them as opposed to men closer to their own size? The thing that contributes most to women's pickiness isn't safety, it's just sexual attraction. Safety concerns are far lower on the priority list i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:35 AM
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Your post came off as if you're saying being a lonely male permavirgin isn't a big deal. The point of the story he linked is that whenever women transitioning to men try what it's like being a lonely male permavirgin, they become suicidal. They experience it just for a tiny little bit tho, imagine living like that your whole life. This story is nothing new, it happens all the time with ftm persons. Don't take my word for it, go look for yourself, hear from those who unlike you experienced both s…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:51 PM
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The bar is literally in hell. Men have it so easy 😤
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:00 AM
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There are questionaires about this and middle aged and older women always rate pictures of men their own age as most attractive, whereas men consistently rate pictures of women in early to mid twenties as most attractive regardless of their own age (this is purely about looks, older men still date roughly within their own age range). So the wall is worse on women in general. Of course there are exceptions, but as for older men getting fat, that just means letting yourself go. Men who are active …
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:08 AM
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Your post is flaired as "change my view" but like, what am I supposed to refute? There is no central point here, your rant is all over the place. You also didn't discover anything new beyond age old platitudes all mashed together in an incoherent mess. Just to be in the clear: I don't think women are the problem. It's not their fault that they are attracted to certain traits. Like I don't think it's a moral transgression or anything. I don't disagree with the title, but there are some bits in th…
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 09:36 PM
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But even then I've seen guys with a micropenis and still have a girlfriend. Lmao how the hell would you possibly know that? People nowadays don't put even a little bit of effort into larping
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 01:12 PM
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I expected IT to be clueless about everything but this was just too much
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 04:22 AM
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Exactly, why does it have to be one or the other? What a stupid way of looking at things. Any reasonable person would hate both of these kinds of scammers. I hated everything PUA before OF and such became mega popular. I didn't suddenly stop hating PUA just because a new kind of scammer became trendy lol
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:29 PM
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Is there a way to report only to mods and not site admins? I'm not very familiar with how reddit reporting works. Is it better to tag mods in a reply under or just hit report?
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:50 PM
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Weird or not, it doesn't go against any reddit rules. I think those threads are weird too so I don't participate in them, simple. They can do the same instead of acting entitled, demanding the whole place to be shut down. And this isn't an incel sub. Bluepillers like them are also allowed to share their opinions in here, so does that make them incel as well?
/r/AllPillDebate16/06/23 09:33 PM
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Why are they like this? This sub never broke any rules. If they can't handle different opinions, why not just stick to their own echo-chamber, why go out of their way to shut down others who have no power over them?
/r/AllPillDebate16/06/23 09:26 PM
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But what if I don't see the point in making enemies out of people just for the sake of it? Whether it's your ex or just a random passer-by who annoyed you, you never wanna be on bad terms with people if it can be avoided. You just never know if fate will bring you back together and you might need their help or cooperation or they might get a chance to fuck you over somehow. I'd rather someone feel indifferent to me than respect me, but also hate my guys at the same time. People are cunning and v…
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 06:54 AM
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Seriously... Even assuming that this is correct, if two people can't just be genuine and instead have to play these retarded games, then what's the point anyway? Sounds exhausting. Just fuck or jerk off and save the brain energy for something more useful than pointless drama.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 06:41 AM
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Tell that to my butt-ugly female CEO. Or the majority of women in politics. You fell for the most bullshit reddit excuse ever just because it's repeated ad nauseum even though it has no bearing in reality. Yes, women of unfavorable looks do suffer professionally (as do men), but to say looks are their only value and that they can't succeed unless they're pretty is bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 08:12 AM
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You can't know that
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 07:09 PM
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This feels like christians telling atheists they hate god. There is no unattractive woman who struggles with men. There are, however, unattractive women who struggle with chad which is often confused for the former. But there's not enough evidence for the former's existence, it's probably just folklore.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 06:12 PM
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The fact that some random guy has the count of 1000 and some other random guy has 0 doesn't prove anything in and of itself. The point is that there is a huge gap between sexually successful and unsuccessful men, the kind of gap that doesn't exist in women. The reasoning then is that women gravitate towards the same small pool of men (whereas men are attracted to all kinds of women) making women's preferences more predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:44 PM
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tall Mystery solved right there
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 03:43 PM
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What?? People mock the appearance of male leaders all the fucking time. Are you from an alternate dimension or something?
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:32 AM
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You clearly are wrong as evidenced by the study I linked. Ugly women can find quality partners, even partners out of their league and that's even without various types of "maxxing". "Niche ugly" and "ugly hot" in my experience is just hot men who don't have a perfect face. Like Adam Driver is often described as "ugly hot". Tall, broad, deep voice, decent face (although imperfect). There's nothing "ugly" about him, "ugly hot" is just a fancy label for unique looking men who are still all around h…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:19 AM
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I wouldn't say it's determined, as in it's set in stone by looks alone. Plenty of ugly women hold high positions in society. You could say women's success is influenced by looks to an extent, but that much is also true for men. Dating is the only domain where you see a stark difference between how ugly men and ugly women are doing. Women are given much more slack than men regarding unfavorable looks.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:05 AM
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I disagree with most of this "chart". Wtf? Go to an ugly sub and a good chunk of the ugly women have partners. Their gripes are usually that they think their boyfriend doesn't find them attractive despite staying with them and treating them good. On the men's side however, they mostly gripe about being single for their entire lives and no one ever showing them even a hint of attraction. If you want a more solid source, here is one: https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/cis/reis/2017/00000159/00…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:52 AM
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That's simply not true. You don't think people subconsciously (and sometimes fully consciously) think of short men or small dicked men as lesser? They literally use those traits as insults left and right.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:38 AM
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Incel can mean anything ranging from a full-blown terrorist to someone who disagreed with a redditor about whether flirting in a bar is inappropriate. You also bait with an argument and then turn around to say it was sarcastic. every woman on this sub gets downvoted Look, it takes about 1 iq point to hide your gender on an online forum, do you think you wouldn't get downvoted if you did that? Ofc you would, you get downvoted because you troll B-but it's because I'm a woman lol seriously
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 11:44 PM
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By the tone of your comment it seemed like you just put it there to not offend anyone. But even if that's not really your opinion, a lot of people agree with it still. Honestly I wish people didn't downvote comments they disagree with, it discourages unpopular opinions from being shared. Reddit has a bad design and subs tend to turn into echo chambers. Still, you shouldn't feel discouraged just because of downvotes, they're meaningless anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 08:03 PM
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Those babies born to a few Chads and many mothers won't have a father in their life. Technically, if most men dropped out of the dating scene and only a few top-tiers impregnated all the women, you wouldn't see a decline in birth rates. But we do see a decline in birth rates. Most women don't want to be single mothers. They know it's disadvantageous for them and for the child. Women like to argue that 80/20 is natural (and therefore better) for humans and that we are a polygynous tournament spec…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 09:07 AM
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Tbh I'd do it, but I'm afraid the drugs would lose their effectiveness over time. It's a temporary solution for those who actually can work through their problems with therapy with enough time. Like hot people who have body dysmorphia/think they are ugly. But us who are actually ugly can't have body dysmorphia lol. If you were to think you're ugly, well, you'd be right. And being right is not a curable disease.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 08:43 AM
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What do they mean by "actually natural"? I think that's an idiotic term, almost meaningless tbh. Who's to say that living in a complex society and making up customs like marriage is not "natural" for humans? There's no such thing as "natural". Environment is ever-changing and so are its inhabitants. Even the way humans mate was always subject to change depending on time and culture. It has changed many times and will probably keep changing until we die out.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 06:18 PM
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Are you asexual? If so, then you're the exception to the general population, that's why I said near-universal. Are you really ugly or are you good looking enough that you could find someone who was attracted to you if you actually were looking for someone? Would it bother you at all if no one found you attractive or do you not care either way?
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 01:01 PM
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It only sounds ridiculous when you word it like that. Otherwise, wanting to be pretty/prettier or wanting to look a certain way is a want anyone can relate to so a lot of people would empathize yeah. The thing is, having a very specific image (like resembling an anime character or smth) is not realistic. Very few people can have that sort of thing. Sure, it would be nice, but you don't need that for a fulfilling life. On the other hand, dating and having sex is a near universal human experience …
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 11:36 AM
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I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but there are some parallels. You don't need sex to survive, but going throughout life feeling undesirable to everyone might make your life miserable. Similarly, you don't need a fulfilling job to survive. You can work a soul-sucking job that you hate and still survive just fine, but it too might make your life miserable.
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 10:31 AM
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Well tbh, you don't need to strictly work as a writer to survive. Blue collar work is more and more in demand and there are many jobs won't be replaced by AI any time soon.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 08:51 PM
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No, I literally made the first response about semantics and kept it at that. That's not playing a game lol
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 06:24 AM
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I'm not playing the semantics "game", I was just making a comment about semantics. The only part I disagreed with in your comment was the wrong semantics you used, so that's what I commented on.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 07:03 AM
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See, this is what I mean. People just make up their own meanings. So now a program has to be conscious in order to be recognized as artificial ntelligence? Being conscious is not intelligence. Conscious - having mental faculties not dulled by sleep, faintness, or stupor : AWAKE It makes no sense to have a goal to make a program like that. Intelligence - the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. This is something that chatgpt and machine learning in general does. Furthermore: Artific…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:22 AM
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I don't get people who say chatgpt is not AI. Ofc it's AI, it fits every definition of AI, nothing in your explanation of how it works tells you that it's not. What would it have to do in order for you to consider it true AI?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 04:10 PM
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Just because sexuality changes (like in the prison example) doesn't mean it's a choice. You're right that you aren't always born with it, environmental factors definitely shape it and that's why it can change under different circumstances. Those couples who say they're attracted to the opposite sex, but choose to date the same sex are easy to explain. They are bi, plain and simple. They just choose to date same-sex, but if they are attracted to both, then by definition they are bi. Lots of peopl…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 09:18 PM
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On the surface, this reasoning does seem like a leap, but funnily enough it's all based on truthful premises. You might actually be onto something. The twoX post fails immediately in that regard. All of those male love interests (who are supposed to be incels according to the brainlets in the original thread) are actually highly attractive and of high status (usually royalty). The heroines just had to look beneath the surface to realize it lol, sometimes not even that.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 11:46 PM
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Is this an automated response? When did he imply he's owed sex? His allegory is saying that the guy meets the vocal standards, but gets frustrated because those are not the actual standards judging by the type of men who are successful. But just because you experience negative feelings doesn't translate into "I'm owed women's bodies". What a ridiculous leap. Says more about you than anything.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 04:13 AM
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Dick shaming is very progressive and wholesome. Almost as much as height shaming, but unfortunately this queen couldn't use the latter on you, it must've been a traumatic experience for her 😥
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 07:12 AM
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How can you claim there's no proof when you refuse to look into it?
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 02:18 PM
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It's more convincing if it comes from a research article you can read and go back to rather than a tweet from some alpha bro tho.
/r/BlackPillScience09/04/23 08:29 AM
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He probably didn't even know why she did it, perhaps they were good friends otherwise. But after this the best response is to just say "you're mentally ill" and move on for good. The messages are 100% fake btw, but we can still play pretend.
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 04:20 AM
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Haven't read this one tbh, but... Men on tinder are not intimidated by highly educated women At this point is literally everything femdittors preach about dating false? How they can maintain so much self-assuredness is beyond me.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 04:29 PM
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Luckily I don't know much about tiktok aside from what I see on other sites, but from what I've seen it's by far the most braindead social media.
/r/AllPillDebate20/03/23 07:00 PM
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Almost all of these tiktoks about exposing "le hypocrisy" seem scripted. Sure, we're all aware that normies have laughably inconsistent beliefs about body shaming (mostly it comes down to "shaming women=bad, shaming men=good"), but come on, no way anyone would willingly walk into a trap like this lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/03/23 06:38 PM
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Height and body size is more important for men than face and hair. He seems quite a bit bigger than her in every way and his face is passable so it's no surprise she is genuinely attracted to him. It's a no-brainer, the only one confused here is you.
/r/AllPillDebate13/03/23 02:27 PM
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Yeah but no one is telling women they need to better their personality to get laid. Most people know a woman of any personality or moral compass can get laid, so you wouldn't be discovering anything new there. But most redditors claim that for male success looks don't matter and thag personality determines whether a man will be successful in dating or not. They claim that permavirgins are unsuccessful because they are horrible people and even if they were tall and handsome they would still be vi…
/r/AllPillDebate05/03/23 06:43 PM
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It's the same tier of "unethical" as trolling, in fact, if you just do it to chat and elicit a certain textual response, it basically is just trolling. Nothing bad really happens to the one being trolled, but moralshitters still get their panties in a twist. But like I said this is a red herring. Even if it's unethical, you can still discuss the results. You don't have to chadfish yourself if you think it's unethical, it's already been done. What harm is there in discussing it?
/r/AllPillDebate05/03/23 11:35 AM
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Except the chadfish make sure to confirm with the women in chat that they're aware of the profile, or the pictures and what the tattooed symbols mean and the matches respond accordingly. If only you made the minimal amount of effort it takes to look into some popular chadfish experiments yourself, you would've known this. Instead you chose to blindly take a stance against with 0 info on the matter and you wanna lecture me about naivety jfl. I already live in a major metropolitan city and I'm doi…
/r/AllPillDebate04/03/23 10:59 PM
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Go ahead and try it. It might work better for you than it did for me. I couldn't really be consistent with my dream journal because some of the things I dreamt up (in normal dreams) were really cringey and even disturbing at times. I couldn't get myself to write it all down and keep it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/03/23 04:46 PM
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It takes a lot of effort and it's not guaranteed to work. I tried all the advice there is and it semi-worked for me, it's kinda hard to explain. Maybe you can try your luck, but I don't think it could have any big impact on curing inceldom. I think robowaifus and VR is where it's at.
/r/AllPillDebate04/03/23 12:30 PM
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The only argument bluepillers have is that chadfishing is unethical, which doesn't address the central point in and of itself, but I'll get to that. First I wanna make a case that it is not unethical. Lots of people just want to chat or even just scroll for a confidence boost and they're completely open about it. You know what you're signing up for and you should know that not every match is gonna be a date. It is only unethical if you trick the other person into meeting up, but if your intentio…
/r/AllPillDebate04/03/23 12:15 PM
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I'm curious what the post was about
/r/AllPillDebate01/03/23 04:59 AM
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Who is "we"? You don't have to care if you don't want to. A lot of people care because it negatively affects them or they're aware of how it negatively affects others. No one is forcing you in particular to care. Just close the articles and go care about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 10:28 PM
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What was so bad about that post that it got such attention? I can't understand twoX'ers, if I was in their shoes and had options, I can't imagine I'd give a shit about some obscure subreddit or any pill theories jfl
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 10:05 PM
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Not buying it. In most colleges male students are outnumbered by female ones, but most males still struggle with the exception of a few highly attractive men, i.e. the chad.
/r/AllPillDebate22/02/23 07:49 AM
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Anyone is free to post their counter-argument. Don't whine if you don't have one.
/r/AllPillDebate22/02/23 07:30 AM
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men of all backgrounds and smvs commit crimes against women and emotionally harm them in relationships While that's true, it's also true that women routinely commit the apex fallacy. Remember a post here when twoX talked about the facebook group "are we dating the same man?" After checking it and confirming that so many women were dating the same men simultaneously, they got cynical in the comments and said stuff like "No wonder men are becoming more lonely with this behaviour, it's entirely the…
/r/AllPillDebate22/02/23 07:27 AM
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Would it make you satisfied if you could transfer your consciousness into a kawaii robowaifu?
/r/AllPillDebate21/02/23 12:11 AM
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Like you, he doesn't know the meaning of many basic words, but unlike you he talks about them as if he does.
/r/AllPillDebate19/02/23 11:04 AM
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My overall point though is that in both cases male and female incels are only volcels who cant get sex how they want it. So just to be completely in the clear: if someone could only get sex through rape, but they chose not to, are they volcel or incel by your definition? Imo they are incel. If you can only get sex by unethical means, you are incel. If you can get sex consensually, but you choose not to, then you are volcel. The women can't get the commitment and the men can't get desire. Not tha…
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 12:55 PM
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Lurk more, just don't listen to TaxNegative. He has a fetish for being proven wrong again and again.
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 08:14 AM
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My comment was a joke, I obviously don't think paying a hooker = ascending. The definition is pretty simple: it only counts if the other person finds you genuinely attractive. Bribing someone to let them insert your dick in them doesn't count. Before you go off on me for doing ad hoc rationalisations, I'm sure your definition would also need some. I doubt you would count rape or necrophilia as ascending. You can't just dismiss that as "simply not on their preferred terms". I consider hiring a ho…
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 07:52 AM
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Sure if 'changing his attitude' means becoming ok with paying a hooker
/r/AllPillDebate17/02/23 03:25 PM
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What is an incel woman? Any woman can get laid so a woman can at most be volcel.
/r/AllPillDebate17/02/23 02:36 PM
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I'm addressing your arguments because they are your basis for "muh humans didn't select for attractive traits". You had the broken logic of "food was priority therefore we didn't select for attractive traits" so naturally that's what I addressed. You had your made up story about how prehistoric females chose mates so that's what I addressed. You had your claim about human community sizes and limited mating options, so that's what I addressed. Why are you triggered that I'm addressing your shitty…
/r/AllPillDebate14/02/23 12:31 AM
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The example with deer is to tear apart your faulty logic, not to argue that humans and deer are the same ffs. By faulty logic I mean your claim that because humans were most concerned about food, it means they didn't select for attractive physical traits. Most animals are most concerned with food and survival and yet they are still observed to select for attractive traits in males, traits which don't always aid in survival. Cool history lesson on “sometimes human packs interacted with other huma…
/r/AllPillDebate13/02/23 11:36 PM
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Humans were concerned about survival for the entirety of our evolutionary formative years. Finding food and not dying from a scrape they got while hunting. Same case with pheasants and deer. And yet the biggest/strongest/prettiest males are still selected for by females. Most men did not reproduce because most men died early. No. Prehistoric Chad could die before he turns 20 and still reproduce with multiple women. A prehistoric manlet could live til 70 and not reproduce at all or maybe with 1 w…
/r/AllPillDebate13/02/23 11:04 PM
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Well said, I agree with most of your post except this: Being physically attractive is not and never has been an evolutionary advantage. Wdym? Of course it's an evolutionary advantage. Like you said: women have higher standards. They will reject majority of men because they find them unattractive. The few men they do find attractive will produce more offspring. The only reason this is not the case in our modern era is because of artificial human involvement (like birth prevention and the concept …
/r/AllPillDebate13/02/23 06:18 PM
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1) Researchers argue that speed dating is ecologically relevant, but I guess you know better than experts in the field. 2) The article didn't only look at speed dating. You clearly didn't read any of it. Also still waiting for your source
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 04:41 PM
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Literally every study on the subject says different. Source? While I'm not saying looks are the only thing that matters, it's still true that looks matter the most out of everything else. When asked, women deny they care about looks the most, but their actions tell a different tale: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18211175/
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 07:13 AM
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Because men are honest with what they want and look for in a woman, women generally aren't. Most virtue-signalling comes from women or men who take women's words literally. "It's not your looks making you undatable, it's your personality" This is said to men by women constantly online, but almost never to women by men.
/r/AllPillDebate09/02/23 11:15 PM
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Honestly the comic is unfunny, low iq, self-congratulatory and doesn't belong in this sub. Also "short man = bad, tall man = good". Can't have enough of that trope.
/r/AllPillDebate09/02/23 10:40 PM
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I'm blackpilled and I agree with some parts of your rant, but it lacks nuance. While it's a no-brainer that a woman felt more raw, genuine attraction towards chad than her normie-tier husband, I also think a good portion of women genuinely like their husbands, otherwise they wouldn't be living with them for decades. Most married couples give off the energy of very good friends with also some sexual tension. The sex (although not as enjoyable as getting railed by chad) is consensual, fun, and mos…
/r/AllPillDebate08/02/23 07:28 PM
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Neither tbh. The study that was posted here about top 5% of men (as well as just getting blackpilled in general) ruined the image of dating/romance/sex for me. A little peek under the hood reveals just how animalistic and shallow it all is. Even if I woke up as Chad tomorrow like in the Lookism manhwa, I couldn't enjoy it knowing all this. Robowaifus are our only hope.
/r/AllPillDebate08/02/23 04:50 PM
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No, only this one time. But still unfunny and still passive-aggressive so not much progress tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate06/02/23 06:25 PM
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The first smart thing you ever said. Men's tastes are pretty diverse and unpredictable at times.
/r/AllPillDebate06/02/23 06:13 PM
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I can't help it if anything more condemnatory than what can be achieved through passive aggression makes the mods sad. I've been insulting you directly this whole time and mods didn't do anything lol. No, it's not because of mods, you really are just a cringelord with a tendency for passive-aggression and making excuses for it.
/r/AllPillDebate05/02/23 03:31 PM
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Passive-aggressive cringelord. I edited out the term you didn't understand while still retaining the same point. Word wizards How does anyone think this is funny?
/r/AllPillDebate05/02/23 02:29 PM
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Lurk more, talk less
/r/AllPillDebate05/02/23 09:45 AM
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Alright so one of the traits the article mentions is humor. Many incels have a great sense of humor, otherwise IT and FDS wouldn't be stealing their memes and rebranding them as their own. Despite this, none of them can get laid.
/r/AllPillDebate05/02/23 09:26 AM
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I think you meant to respond to blebbyroo
/r/AllPillDebate05/02/23 08:56 AM
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Does this "value" have a definition or is it just a convenient tool for blue-shitters to move goalpoasts indefinitely?
/r/AllPillDebate04/02/23 07:51 PM
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There are virtually no standards for women when it comes to looks. Preferences, yes, but no hard-set standards. Any woman of any looks is attractive to someone, whereas men with unattractive looks are destined to rot.
/r/AllPillDebate04/02/23 09:53 AM
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There are more studies saying men care more about. No, there aren't. If you think there are, share them. There may be some questionnaire studies where women say they don't care about looks, but their actions tell a different tale according to the study above. Still, if you have a study of any type to support your claim, I'd be willing to discuss it. you found one that’s in Spanish. It's in both English and Spanish. You are responding to me in English so you shouldn't have problems understanding …
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 02:35 PM
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Well I'm certainly not Volcel Even if you had god-tier looks and infinite money you can't get laid if you don't interact with girls. Looks do most of the work, but you have to have some semblance of social skills too.
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 02:17 PM
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Men don't care about appearance as much as women do https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/cis/reis/2017/00000159/00000159/art00007
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 05:09 AM
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Any virgin at that height is volcel. Are you two actually talking to girls?
/r/AllPillDebate02/02/23 05:06 AM
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That's a retarded take. I don't want to take my life because it would be traumatizing to everyone close to me. On the other hand, not getting born doesn't hurt anyone. These two are completely different things with completely different outcomes.
/r/AllPillDebate01/02/23 07:41 PM
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There's always a chance You're playing with someone else's life-long dissatisfaction. there's a chance he'd be born blind deaf and without limbs All the more reason to be against procreating. Your limbless son is not gonna be able to go around the countryside killing demons to get his body parts back.
/r/AllPillDebate01/02/23 06:49 PM
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Most of my peers are finished with college/school, but still gen z. Super-tall ones regardless of looks do best and most girls fight for them (sometimes even physically, though only when I was in highschool). They are closely followed by moderately tall good looking ones. Average guys fight for scraps and below-average are completely out with a couple exceptions. Those few exceptions are guys who are insanely talented/extraordinary in some way or another. Naturally, most guys can't realistically…
/r/AllPillDebate01/02/23 06:41 PM
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You don't know how your son would turn out and since you're short yourself there's a good chance he'd be too. Why put your son through this when you know from firsthand experience that it sucks? If you're blackpilled, nothing except antinatalism makes sense to me. It's crazy to me that some blackpillers actually want to reproduce. Well to be completely honest, antinatalism makes the most sense for everyone, not just blackpillers, but that's a topic for another day.
/r/AllPillDebate01/02/23 06:24 PM
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I guess it's because people equate appearance flaws with character flaws. I personally don't see that as proof of blackpill. Sure, it's kinda depressing, but that alone doesn't prove blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 02:39 PM
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How is this 'blackpill'? How is what blackpill? The meme from op? What are you referring to? looks aren't everything. Looks are everything if you're too unattractive to pass the minimum threshold. Once you pass it, other things start to matter. Tate can easily pass the looks threshold for many women because he's tall and jacked.
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 02:25 PM
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I mean his looks alone could get him laid, even if he wasn't famous or rich.
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 02:01 PM
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Maybe it's appealing if a woman has high sex drive, but self-restrains herself for "the one". Just a guess.
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 01:56 PM
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Other things do matter, but looks matter more. He could've gotten girls on his looks alone.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 03:25 PM
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The point here is that his bad features are purposefully exaggerated because in normie mind: evil = ugly. Objectively speaking, he is not unattractive. He is tall, fit, high status, rich, accomplished martial artist. To blackpillers it's no mystery why he was successful with women, but bluepillers have some explaining to do if they wanna cling to "muh personality"
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 03:07 PM
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I agree height and status matter more than physique, but I don't think he'd be as attractive if he was out of shape. All of it matters, but gympill has the least influence here.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 03:03 PM
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What does "manosphere" even mean? I wouldn't want to participate in redpill communities and you said you wouldn't want your space to attract incel shitposters, but both of those are considered "manosphere" by normies. I think it's a braindead term tbh. So many ideologies that people label "manosphere" are incompatible with each other, it really is a meaningless word.
/r/AllPillDebate29/01/23 01:35 PM
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Not even that tbh because many demographics are pumping out kids like crazy and those immigrants would fill in the spaces. Probably not collapse, but a restructuring maybe.
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 04:48 PM
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He doesn’t have a social life Baseless assumption so how does he know? Even if that were true, he could still know from studies and statistics. Some people with antisocial personality disorder have normal social lives. I'm not sure if OP was referring to APD or what his sources are. Maybe try asking him to further elaborate some of his points and try to have an actual discussion instead of strawmaning him, arguing against points he didn't make.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 08:38 PM
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Again, he isn't saying that all chads are antisocial, he's saying that those who are can still have a regular social life.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 07:17 PM
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I don't. I'm not rp.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 07:07 PM
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you are le cult How deep and insightful Quote the part where he "painted popular people as villains" as you said.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 07:03 PM
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I didn't say they are all rich with good personalities and fitness. I said they believe those things are more important than looks. Fitness? They must be working out at home because there isn't an awkward, stoic, "frame" holding man in any of the sports I play. They lift It's all the same crab bucket In simplest terms possible: Red believes "game > looks", whereas Black believes "looks > game". How are they the same when they are diametrically opposed on most issues? it's male competition writ s…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 06:53 PM
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This is the most ironic thing I've ever heard. The majority of your reply is about defending popular men and arguing how few of them are assholes, but he never said anything like that. What he did say is this: Women may ignore personality if the guys is extremely attractive, rich or has a high status in society. Antisocial” personality traits don’t stop chads and some normies from having a regular social life, but it does for ugly men. What he actually said is that you're more likely to get away…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 05:39 PM
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No argument That's as good as admitting you're wrong 👍
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 05:21 PM
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Red pillers usually believe fitness, money and personality matter the most. Black pillers believe genetically pre-determined traits matter the most and everything else is either irrelevant or secondary. These two ideologies are in direct opposition. What exactly did your coworker believe?
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 04:49 PM
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I socialize with porgressive women even though I'm blackpilled (not misogynistic tho), but I know progressive women who legit socialize with Tate apologists.
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 11:10 PM
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How many of those are from IT lol
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 11:05 PM
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Op is listing all traits that (in her opinion) make a man attractive. Why leave out looks? Is there any good reason to go through all the factors and intentionally ignore only the most important one lol?
/r/AllPillDebate23/01/23 07:43 AM
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being with a guy who settled for you isn't that fun to be honest. Those women aren't necessarily being settled for. Some men prefer fat women over skinny. Some men prefer more masculine women over feminine. On the flip side, when did you hear a woman say they explicitly prefer a short man over a tall man? At best they might tolerate it, that's where the kind of settling you're talking about happens. didn't men not care about women's degrees anyways? Level of education correlates with income. It'…
/r/AllPillDebate22/01/23 11:22 AM
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I can agree that those traits make the woman more ideal, but the thing is that a woman doesn't have to be anywhere close to ideal to have decent dating options. Lots of men love women who are for example fat, or masculine, or flat chested, etc. Any female body type can be attractive, but when it comes to male bodies, it has to be as close to ideal as possible. The farther the man is from the ideal, the lower his value is in dating (unlike women's). https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/cis/reis…
/r/AllPillDebate22/01/23 02:30 AM
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Damn, it looked like a significant height difference even with the firefighter guy, but even that wasn't wnough and she needed an upgrade. I wonder if titans from snk were real would Chads suddenly become incels?
/r/AllPillDebate21/01/23 11:48 AM
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There are virtually no standards for women: https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/cis/reis/2017/00000159/00000159/art00007 No matter how fat you are or how flat your boobs are, there will be plenty of high-tier men wanting to wife you up. Yes, there will be less of them if you're not the ideal, but there's still enough that unattractive women have basically the same marriage prospects as average and attractive women according to the study.
/r/AllPillDebate21/01/23 11:30 AM
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Men - be tall, lean, muscular, have a big dick, big frame, loads of money (optional), high social status Women - don't be morbidly obese (optional) Conclusion: the standards for women are ridiculously high and unrealistic
/r/AllPillDebate21/01/23 11:23 AM
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I read the whole article and it only talks about masculine behavior. The study it's based on is literally titled "Probing ovulatory cycle shifts in women’s preferences for men’s behaviors" I got my hopes up for nothing.
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 05:51 PM
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"the study has yet to be peer-reviewed." Also it seems to be talking about masculine behaviour whereas the study I posted talked about appearance. Obviously I didn't read it all in these couple of seconds, but still I doubt they actually disproved it. also as a woman, hypermasculine chads legit don't make me interested. Any chance you're a closeted lesbian?
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 05:37 PM
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1- The studies and reality are not necessarily in disagreement here. The study clearly admits less masculine men get in relationships, but women still lust after hyper-masculine men during fertile parts of their cycles. 2- Thanks for the clarification, but even with that in mind it seems prettyboys are still less masculine than Chad so the point still stands 3- Height is the most important factor of male attractiveness 4- I have no idea. I couldn't self-insert into a Chad because I know that's n…
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 05:31 PM
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I wish https://www.livescience.com/8779-fertile-women-manly-men.html "When fertile, women want manly men" "Women with less-masculine husbands or boyfriends are more likely to lust after other men during the fertile part of their cycle than women partnered with butch guys." Still, the pretty boy paradox is a bit of an enigma to me. All studies are in agreement that women prefer manly men, so I'm not sure why a pretty boy would get any attention. Perhaps a pretty boy is more cute/cuddly whereas th…
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 05:05 PM
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I somewhat relate. I think I could live without sex or relationships just fine (close intimate friendships and jerking off are a decent substitute imo), but I can't stand the knowledge that I'm objectively a subhuman and I think some validation would give me exactly what I need to live a happy life. I lived a perfectly fulfilled life until I got blackpilled, especially on height. Even my grades and motivation suffered. But in a way I'm different than you. I don't want to be more attractive/talle…
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 04:40 PM
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Well duh... The meme is a bit of an overexaggaration, but that's what meme arguments are all about. No one is actually arguing that you'll get metooed for just making brief eye contact with a woman as an ugly guy. It's not meant to be taken literally, but the message its trying to send is still clear as day - unattractive men tend to get judged more negatively, attractive men positively.
/r/AllPillDebate20/01/23 02:33 PM
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Wish I had a 6'4 personality tbh. Why live?
/r/AllPillDebate19/01/23 09:45 PM
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As opposed to men on the right who hate women? He meant "on the left" as in "the left side of this picture", not political affiliation lol Or are you unironically saying you can tell someone is misogynistic just by their looks?
/r/AllPillDebate19/01/23 08:48 PM
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And height beats both tbh
/r/AllPillDebate19/01/23 08:42 PM
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Good observation. I was thinking of calling this phenomenon "Chad of the gaps" (like "god of the gaps" for christcucks) Whenever there's a gap in women's reasoning, just insert Chad instead of "man" and the statement will start to make sense 99% of the time. Example: "I like shy and dorky men" -doesn't make sense. Let's apply "COG" and see if it makes sense "I like shy and dorky Chads" -suddenly this statement makes a lot of sense
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 02:20 PM
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Then why didn't you just link the study instead? The tabloid article and the study aren't even talking about the same thing, it's only vaguely related. Is smoking and drinking supposed to be one of the so called "hunter-gatherer risks"? Shouldn't it fall under the other category of "modern" risks (e.g. driving with no seat belt)? Same thing for jumping out of a plane. Is that something hunter-gatherers did? It's not, but the tabloid still argues it's the attractive type of risk. I didn't actuall…
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 02:08 PM
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Tabloid referencing another tabloid. I can't say I'm convinced. Like the other commenter said: women are attracted to chads who take risks. But I'll add they are also attracted to chads who are responsible/avoid risks. Women have varying tastes, you see, they like all kinds of chads.
/r/AllPillDebate18/01/23 05:18 AM
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You think they'd look jb without make-up frauding? Another factor of sea women is they're easy and apparently treat white men like gods.
/r/AllPillDebate16/01/23 03:30 PM
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I guess because they're more neotenous looking they get more attention than other ethnicities with similar traits. But as always, the most correct answer is that incels have varying tastes. Some probably don't like sea women. Some may even prefer black women.
/r/AllPillDebate16/01/23 03:16 PM
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Someone here mentions a common everyday talking point on social media and 99% of people who join in on discussion know what they're talking about, but then you're like "Whaaat? That doesn't happen, who ever says that?" lol There's literally comments like that in the original PPD post. Yes, right under the studies that tells them that idea is wrong there are people claiming "nah, teen love is bad for your health". It's defended even more when it isn't on a post that literally proves them wrong, b…
/r/AllPillDebate16/01/23 05:30 AM
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In my case it's mostly been progressive anti-incel redditors like IT, IIA, doogy fans, etc. Maybe some ultra conservatives would think that, but you won't find them in these circles. It's hard to believe you never saw it considering you're a regular poster here (which is a bit of an obscure reddit), but apparently you also don't see "looks don't matter" types either. Maybe you just need to lurk reddit more before you can have valuable input here ngl.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 10:58 PM
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6'2 does matter and can override anything else appearance-wise. If you can't even make female friends then your problem is not looks, it's something else. Even I was able to make female friends despite being weird, ugly, short, had a stupid voice and a speech impediment well into late teens. I don't know what your issue is, but if you're 6'2 then it's not looks.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 10:48 PM
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Briefly skimming through these and I already know it's gonna be suifuel. Still I'm gonna save the post for later because so many woke redditors claim teen romance is detrimental for development and that it's been proven by studies. As usual, no fucking clue where they come up with these ideas, but there they are.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 09:19 PM
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There are other women besides you and some of them like or at least tolerate a bald head if it's attached to someone tall, strong or both.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 07:08 PM
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Sure you can dm me
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 07:03 PM
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But also body shaming bad and homophobia bad
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 07:02 PM
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Baldness is unattractive most of the time, but not a death sentence tbh. The reason baldcels cry about norwooding is because they aren't jacked or skilled martial artists and they can't toughguymaxx. When you're a scrawny manlet with glasses balding head looks pathetic, but it's different when you're a scary kickboxer.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 06:56 PM
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He's not that ugly and height is more important anyway. He's not the handsomest either, but his looks work fine for an aggressive thugmaxxer. Do you honestly think he wouldn't get laid if he wasn't rich?
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 06:50 PM
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For once I agree with you. It's a weird cuck mentality. All low value men who have above room temperature IQ despise Andrew through and through. I have to say though most men who defend Tate in my experience are average or attractive men. This notion that only permavirgins defend him is a myth.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 06:42 PM
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To their credit they did immediately get rid of him as soon as incels provided conclusive evidence. They are a bit slow, sure, but they set their differences aside and did the right thing this time which is admirable. For example, the old IT shielded koneko-dono even after incels figured him/her out and even after reddit banned his/her account.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 01:50 PM
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I guess your definition hits a bit closer than mine yeah, but essentially it's the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 11:24 AM
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Then don't marry lol. You can serially date or have flings. Anyone who is 6'2 and KHHV is 100% volcel.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 10:47 AM
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What agendas? Who benefits from convincing males that their genes are shit and no amount of hard work would make them attractive? If anything governments would make an effort to push the studies that prove the opposite as they want their taxpayers to be motivated and ambitious, not depressed neets who parasyte on the economy and occasionally off themselves. That being said, I don't think the government has any major involvement here. Like there are theories that the average dick size is bigger t…
/r/AllPillDebate14/01/23 01:55 PM
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They still have unconventional taste
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:32 PM
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If they have autism themselves you don't think they'd know that a female autist would also act weird, socially awkward and sperg out occasionally like them?
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:29 PM
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I meant like at least half the incels want autistic or non-nt girl. There's literally a whole meme category for it.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:26 PM
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How does MSTOW differ from incel?
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:25 PM
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or ones with mental weirdness That's like 50% of incels
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:20 PM
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They use it as an insult, yes, but they also use the literal female gender as an insult. Incels have wildly contradicting tastes, you'll often hear from ones who do like landwhales.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:18 PM
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I think incels have some of the weirdest tastes that you will rarely find elsewhere. I myself have a bunch of weird traits I find attractive, but in addition to that I'm also gonna drool over a conventionally hot insta chick. Basic is basic for a reason. Nearly everyone likes basic in addition to their own niche taste and that's why you see it everywhere. Not sure if it's unique, but I like strongfat girls. One time I was chatting with a girl on omegle and she was venting about how fat and ugly …
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:08 PM
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Incels are part of a group of male-oriented websites that are collectively referred to as the “manosphere.” Some manosphere groups have practices that are contrary to those of incel communities, such as pick-up artist sites where men learn seduction tips, and “men go their own way” (MGTOW) communities, wherein men abandon the pursuit of marriage due to overly punitive divorce laws. So they readily admit that they just shove all these fundamentally different and conflicting philosophies into one …
/r/BlackPillScience11/01/23 10:39 PM
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I fail to see how this is a worse alternative. It's better to experience an occasional toxic relationship (if it means you also get to experience the good kind) than to be completely unfuckable and never experience being desired by someone at all.
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 06:53 PM
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I know, I just decided to commit a few days ago, but I don't think it has much impact. Size is mostly determined by bones.
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 06:37 PM
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Cope. Hands are the most exposed part of your body aside from face and many women say it's one of the first things they notice on a guy.
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 03:14 PM
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You perceive it as "obvious shit" because of bias. Did his matches know he's 5'9 before they matched him or not? If not, then that proves nothing about face being more important than height. Tbh they probably assumed he was tall af because of halo effect ngl.
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 02:26 PM
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Anytime a question about small hands comes up 99% of women say it's a turn off. Do you think they're lying or something? Because I don't really see the point in lying The only reason for lying would be if they wanted to virtue signal about "looks don't matter".
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 02:20 PM
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Reddit humor is so dry ngl
/r/AllPillDebate11/01/23 05:36 AM
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You're claiming he's 5'9, but do his matches actually know that? He doesn't say it in his profile. He's admittedly very pretty which could somewhat offset his lack of height (even though 5'9 is not even that bad). One funny thing about facepillers is that you can show them all the studies in the world that clearly favor height > face side of argument and it won't satisfy their standard of evidence, butthen they'll show you one meme or low-effort post and act like it's undeniable proof.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 10:47 PM
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How tall are you if you don't mind?
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 07:18 PM
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Over for nonnative-english-speaker-cels
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 07:16 PM
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How would that even be possible? Hands are the most exposed part of your body aside from face. Lots of girls say hand size is one of the first things they notice on a guy.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:56 PM
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Actually it will stretch out your shoe over time lol, but it's not even close to the "same logic". Shoe is not a living, growing, ever-changing part of your body. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18769962/ Thoughts?
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:46 PM
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Whats the point of measuring xd? The same as you would measure height or dick size. You wanna know where you stand once you learn it's an important factor in attraction. I dated some with bigger than mine. Do you also know a 5'2 balding Indian janitor by any chance?
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:42 PM
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But seriously tho, did you measure or no?
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:29 PM
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Not saying I dissagree, but could you please elaborate more? What exactly doesn't make sense in my logic? Why wouldn't you be able to increase bone density in hands the same way bone density can be increased in other parts of the body like arms and legs?
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:27 PM
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How small exactly, did you measure? Lots of men who are around average say they got small hands. They don’t give a fuck about your fucking hands. Women say they do tho and redditors always tell me to listen to women about what women want, not men.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:21 PM
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Well good for them, among billions of people you're bound to find exceptions to the rule. Though I gotta be honest, looking at some other pics the guy is not that bad looking at all, has a strong chin too. This was just a bad pic + bad haircut. It's possible they made him look less attractive on purpose to sensationalize the moment and make it news-worthy.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 06:14 PM
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No and likely not even a couple tbh
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 05:05 PM
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A tale as old as time is women getting used and abused by their Chad boyfriends and then blaming all problems on permavirgins online who never influenced their lives in the slightest.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 05:03 PM
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Got proof? Not saying you're wrong, I would just like conclusive evidence.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 04:54 PM
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Would it work if someone you found attractive thought your current look is pretty/cute as well as genuinely liked your company and wanted to be in a commited relationship with you or would you not be satisfied as long as you don't have that kawaii anime girl look that you want?
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 11:33 PM
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Wanting sex with someone means attraction in some form. Sure, being both desirable and pretty/cute is better than being desirable, but ugly. Still, being both undesirable and ugly is the worst. (Desirable + cute) > (Desirable + ugly) > (Undesirable + ugly) That's my take anyway
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 07:02 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I would love it if I got sex offers from randos even if they hate and objectify me. No, it doesn't replace love and friendships, but the acknowledgement that someone finds you physically attractive is still validating.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 02:41 PM
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Women who don't care about looks are a rare gem
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 12:03 PM
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How tall is he?
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 11:47 AM
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Women stated earning prospects and being personable as more important than physical attractiveness. If you paid attention, OP didn't say that women claimed they "prefer ugly men", that was just your strawman. He said women claimed personality is more important than looks, but that looks end up being more important in reality. That's also in line withthe study.
/r/AllPillDebate06/01/23 01:02 AM
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That's retarded. Perhaps you age slower because you eat healthy, don't drink, don't smoke, etc. But then it's the healthy lifestyle that's making you age slower, not the fact you are a shut-in virgin. A hyper-extroverted stacy could do the same and see the same results.
/r/AllPillDebate06/01/23 12:33 AM
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And while you’re at it, link to or post any woman claiming they prefer ugly men. Literally the third link in the post lol Not to mention one of the most common talking points on reddit/among anti-blackpill crowd.
/r/AllPillDebate06/01/23 12:25 AM
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Claim: Bad guys who are attractive slay TsugaC: Nuh-uh. Doesn't happen. What about these ones? They fit the bill. TsugaC: Yes, but they don't count. Repeat on every thread
/r/AllPillDebate06/01/23 12:09 AM
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Not necessarily sentient, just good at mimicking how a person would act. Kinda like current conversational AI is mimicking a conversationalist by "acting out" emotions, interests, preferences, etc. Of course it wouldn't be unethical to sell and buy those things because they wouldn't actually have real emotions. Emotions are a biochemical process. An AI may be convincing in looking anxious for example, but it's not actually secreting cortisol nor is it receptive to it. It would just mimic how a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:25 AM
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Can't build a meaningful connection with a bio woman either if you aren't at least three times her size, so a lot of us don't got much choice, do we?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:57 PM
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Good point, but there are solutions. can’t reject you Not necessarily. You could program them to be attracted to different traits, both physical and psychological. Then you go to a sort of a speed date where you meet a bunch of them and after it decide which one to buy. It's far from perfect, but better than nothing. It might not work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:48 PM
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When did I say I'm above it? But in all seriousness, even if they did produce fat hairy bots, they'd sell out too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:33 PM
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Robowaifus don't care how tall you are or how big your dick is ❤️ Denying that they are superior is just downright ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:50 AM
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The reason I hold no sympathy for manlets, framecels, dicklets and the like is because of the natural order. 100% of the content all strugglers create hating on women fail to realize immutable traits in WOMEN like dark skin, psychological and hormonal illnesses that hard set weight issues, poverty, abuse, and lack of protection. Those traits are not specific to women. Dark skin - affects both, but moreso men than women. Ok, black women may be considered less attractive than black men, but the op…
/r/AllPillDebate31/12/22 10:23 AM
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because men are bigger, stronger, often scarier A 5'5 framelet acquaintance asks her for a cup of coffee = he's creepy and making her feel unsafe A 6'7 roided stranger asks if she's dtf = caring and considerate offer
/r/AllPillDebate30/12/22 02:17 PM
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It's hard to care about this one specific trait that makes you unattractive when you already possess more than you can count. Good on you for trying to improve yourself. I agree victimizing is an unattractive trait and if there's a chance for you in the dating market then it's a good idea to stop bitching and give it a serious go. However, for a lot of us dropping this one unattractive trait wouldn't change anything. For me, I'd still be short, ugly, effeminate and years behind my peers in socia…
/r/AllPillDebate25/12/22 12:59 AM
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Ofc you'd think that. My explanation of why you think like that fits perfectly and is supported by research.
/r/AllPillDebate24/12/22 04:34 PM
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Perhaps not asshole towards you lol People who act like assholes (in this example physically assault others) will always be assholes no matter how popular they are or how bright their halo is.
/r/AllPillDebate24/12/22 01:59 PM
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No, we frame popular assholes as assholes. A lot of men who are abusive to low-tier men are well-liked and popular with women. Those kinds of popular men we label as assholes. There are also well-liked, popular men who are friendly towards low-tier men. Those kinds of popular men we don't labels as assholes. I'm assuming the reason you see all popular men as friendly and approachable is partly because of halo effect and partly because you don't care to see how some of them treat low-value men.
/r/AllPillDebate24/12/22 01:49 PM
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The closest thing I encountered were guys who were unattractive/below average on all accounts, but they were hyper-extroverted and popular with lots of male and female friends. Those guys are not slayers tho, but terminally online redditors don't know the difference and might be led to believe that such popularity equals being attractive/successful with women. Those who think looks don't matter are especially susceptible to this fallacy.
/r/AllPillDebate21/12/22 01:23 PM
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If I decide to rate model-tier women as unattractive, do I also get to say I'm fantasizing about having sex with unattractive women?
/r/BlackPillScience30/10/22 12:14 PM
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Why did you even date him if it's such a big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:39 PM
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If anything, this proves men's physical preferences are less rigid than women's, but anyone who pays attention can tell you that. I don't think you can compare women's and men's (even gay men's) preferences like this and make this inference that if one side likes a certain trait in certain conditions, then the other will as well. They don't function the same just because they're both attracted to men. For example, though most gay men prefer taller, it's still pretty common that some prefer short…
/r/BlackPillScience11/10/22 07:36 AM
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I never said this study is definitive proof that unwanted celibacy causes misogyny, my criticism was towards the people from inceltear who used the study to support their narrative that misogyny causes inceldom and claiming that's what the study says. That's just blatantly untrue and it's so easy to see for anyone who actually bothered to open the link. Incelterians obviously didn't.
/r/BlackPillScience08/10/22 09:19 AM
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As per usual, the reality is the exact opposite from what they claim.
/r/BlackPillScience07/10/22 09:25 AM
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What a fail by ITcels posting this study and claiming that the study proves misogyny causes unwanted celibacy, when it clearly says the opposite: unwanted celibacy is a risk factor for misogyny, meaning if you're unsuccessful with women you're more likely to develop misogynistic attitude, NOT that misogynistic attitude leads to being unsuccessful with women. These novel quantitative results indicate that unwanted celibacy is an important psychological risk factor for misogynistic attitudes. They…
/r/BlackPillScience07/10/22 06:55 AM
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What does this have to do with blackpill?
/r/BlackPillScience26/09/22 07:17 AM
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I don't subscribe to the notion that understanding reality is radical. Anyone who challenges the opinion of le wholesum redditor is radical terrorist. No exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:47 AM
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How dare you get mad over me having personal preferences but also How dare you have personal preferences of your own, gross. I missed this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:58 PM
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I'm assuming that average includes adult women of all ages. People tend to put on weight as they get older and exit the dating market so they bring the average up. But even if we ignore that and assume that the average woman is overweight, most men nowadays don't even have a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:33 PM
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Google horn effect. Thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:26 PM
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