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CMVhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:22 PM
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CMVhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:28 AM
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CMVhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:09 PM
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Question For Womenhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 12:21 PM
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Discussionhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:22 PM
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Question For Menhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:32 PM
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Question For Womenhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:26 AM
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Discussionhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:32 PM
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Question For Womenhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:31 PM
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Discussionhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:11 AM
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Question For Menhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:14 PM
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Question For Womenhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:51 AM
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CMVhypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:38 PM
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hypothememe/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 09:26 PM
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:14 AM
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Its true. You’re both right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:14 PM
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I wouldve left her already ,successful or not, if our relationship was terrible.. having the now “better” option wouldn’t factor in. But I think im in the minority who prefers to be alone if the relationship sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:39 PM
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Who said anything about being embarrassed? Dumb comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:06 AM
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What what? You said no other species does it.. thats not true, monkeys do it in certain situations
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:26 PM
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Thats not true monkeys have been known to trade resources for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:48 PM
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Almost Everyones missing the point, Im not saying which one is worse.. Im saying how the viewpoint towards one has steadily been changing (in the positive direction) where as the viewpoint towards the other has literally not changed a bit.. that is extremely interesting and worth noting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:56 PM
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So all prostitution is coercion? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:54 PM
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Lol fair
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:51 PM
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It’s not even close to the perception that it was 20 to 30 years ago, even if it’s still bad it’s becoming obviously so much more acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:51 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:46 PM
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Good points
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:46 PM
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Theyre clearly being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:29 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:22 PM
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Okayy? That wasn’t the point, the point is in how society see’s sex work today for women compared to men partaking in it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:22 PM
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Yes. Its the classic fantasy of the whore/madonna(virgin) Men want a woman who was very picky but falls only for him (huge ego boost and is more clean/good for heredity concerns evolutionarily speaking) So the fact that it boosts ego and is practical is why its the main fantasy. That being said most men are realistic and will settle for a woman who is either A) a madonna/virgin or close to it (low amount of ex partners) and if she is, then men are much more willing to wait since she made others …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:59 PM
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Oh well that just proves you don’t know Patrice Oneal at all (or youve listened to him sure, but your listening comprehension is non-existent)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:48 PM
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Maybe.. just maybe… there’s actually a lot of truth to some RP beliefs.. and people don’t get anything out of it other than recognizing a truth (wether it serves their selfish needs or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:56 PM
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A kiss is not a contract https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9iSlPoQm2XY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:36 AM
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Like how?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:07 AM
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I agree that we should worry about its effects and determine the cause. I just think the cause is much more 50/50 50% being women capitalizing on their femininity/sexuality 50% men being horn dogs and paying for it (or buying things with sexy women advertising it) etc../50% business men capitalizing on “sex sells”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:03 PM
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I'm fine with both but when women are constantly sexualized for a male gaze and then men complain about sluts and miley cyrus then it is hypocritical Agreed, that is hypocritical and bullshit. However women slut-shame other women more than men. And I think the men that do are mostly saying that it’s not a good thing to publicize sluttyness as a mainstream thing for kids to see And tbh, I find it more morally just for a person to sexualize themselves using their own agency than to have it overwhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:43 PM
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Yeah that parts all fine, its the turning around and complaining about it that gets me. Its just hypocritical but encouraged
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:19 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:14 PM
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Its the fact that Women claim to be more virtuous and innocent than Men while hypocritically being just as shallow. If they were honest (with themselves and others) then it would sting a lot less to these Men. That being said, they aren’t as honest about their feelings because they wouldve bedn bludgeoned to death if they spoke up for a few 100’000 years, so I understand why. Still annoying tho to claim all the advantage and praise for being one way when you’re actually the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:05 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:15 AM
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Its rude to ask directly, but should definitely be asked internally. Women are so used to being the prize amongst thirsty men that they feel their very existence is enough to “bring to the table”, so of course they hate this question because they always thought they brought enough by just giving sexual access. But now with so much sex before marriage sex is not worth as much (except to lower value men who can’t get it anyway) so on one hand they have thirsty low value men still telling the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:16 PM
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Well yeah, but as the saying goes (butchered version) ‘Working hard doesn’t guarantee success, but it does increase your likelihood a lot. and working Not-Hard almost gurantee’s your failure’
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:28 PM
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Exactly.. but the justifying and excuses usually start
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:07 PM
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You say you don’t care about your low n-count but are diligent to remain a virgin? I don’t get it? Also, correct me if im wrong..but Men just assume (rightfully so in 90% of the cases) that you as a modern Woman has racked up a few partners, so then he just acts accordingly (trys to sleep with you quickly) and then is only upset (if he’s not a psycho) when you say no bc he assumes you’re promiscuous like almost every other modern woman. Again its the hypocrisy and different treatment that upsets…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:41 PM
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Ok but reverse the situation.. say a Man bangs 100’s of Women and then decides he wants to settle down, so he only seeks a virgin who will marry him and be a housewife.. and worse, he used to pay for all those other girls dinners and do things for them, but he’s not giving that to the virgin girl cause he “wants to test her” or is “ making her wait so its special when he pays for her”... does that sound fair? If she was a little annoyed by that would it be understandable? I know its not an exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:36 AM
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That doesn’t make sense.. they literally showed a single woman exercising and women were aroused physically, its as simple as that.. no offence but just because you try to explain it away in your own mind with some double-think logic don’t try to bring me into that self-dishonesty (and I don’t even know why you would want to.. so women are attracted to women, big deal)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:17 PM
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Can you explain the difference exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:34 AM
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To everyone saying that most women aren’t bi, you’re in denial. heres a study for ya.. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html “All was different with the women. No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, they showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women and women with men. They responded objectively much more to the exercising woman than to the strolling man, and their blood flow rose quickly — an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:16 AM
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If he had no teeth what did he stop brushing? Jk/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 01:46 AM
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Hit it right on the head here. a lot of ppl want to blame things beyond their control when the truth is its usually a bit of both (luck + your actions combined)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:25 PM
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Thats like asking the Women “so you want these psycho killers?” And they say “Depends how famous!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:17 PM
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So hot in the face https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/6623b8af-56c3-4871-beb2-bf845d141caa
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:16 PM
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How is it flawed and promoting a bias? Pls show exactly how. What makes me think they are lying is that they are clearly lying.. like I said most likely to themselves. Its pretty damn clear, in this (albeit single) study but also in real life. And no some women don’t need to be desirable to men to be happy but most do (just like men want to be desirable to women)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:32 PM
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Women aren’t “lying” about what they find sexually arousing. Except they do lie about it. Explicitly. And Objectively. Heres a simple study that proves that they do https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html Heres part of it that explains how what women say they are aroused by and what they are actually physically aroused by are 2 different things.. in other words they are constantly lying to themselves, or at very least lying to the researchers The genitals of the volunteers we…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:22 AM
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Haha im talking about real life experience not porn.. you really don’t know women if you don’t know most of them love sucking dick (but of course they deny it in front of other women or men when asked.. but behind closed doors majority of them love it) Its an obvious fact for anyone who’s been with even a few women. So if you’re ‘sure’ about that id seriously reassess what other things you’re ‘sure’ about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:19 AM
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You’re joking right? 9/10 women Ive been with love giving BJ’s and actually craved it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:40 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:02 PM
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The thing is not everyone will ever actually try.. so just by putting in the effort to improve yourself, even if your coming from very low, you will by definition stand out cause so many men arent improving. So you stand out by being above average in either natural attractive qualities you Were born with, or more effort than the other guys in improving.. the insanely top level guys do both. But either way if you Stand out with 1 out of 2 of those you’ll do better than the average guy, because to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:40 PM
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So are you promoting islam in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:05 AM
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This. Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:40 PM
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Yeah like I said its not the exact same, but its close. Ive been asked to do insanely dangerous shit at work and would potentially lose my job if I didn’t say yes, even tho it was basically illegal or super Unsafe at best for them to ask me to do it. It happens all the time in construction or warehouse jobs etc.. so it is pretty close. Again, adults have agency and are responsible for saying yes or no (as long as your not living in a dictatorship and are free to quit at any time) its shitty and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:56 PM
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Isn’t most work on this earth being ‘coerced’ to do things we’re not comfortable with to further our careers/lives? I mean its not the exact same, but almost. You’re an adult>someone asks you if you want to do this thing for money>you say yes or no and live with the decision. I just don’t understand how these women are getting paid, having sex on camera, yet somehow are the ones being exploited? Its outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:09 AM
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I think theres a study showing how the more successful women are, and more equal to men in society, the more they prioritize looks.. Hence the western countries going crazy as they are now in many ways when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:24 PM
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Me too.. but yeah its super common. You mite wanna rephrase to ‘ideals’ of both sexes. Even then Im not sure but itd be better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:12 PM
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Im sorry but you may have a point somewhere , but theres a lot wrong here, mainly 1-Women settle all the time (they just end up resenting the man they settle with, but they still settle ALOT) 2-Men chase Women they can’t have alllll the time. Just look at the internet simping epidemic for the most extreme example, but its been happening in real life forever. They have sex with who they can, but they chase the ones playing ‘hard to get’ alot too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:28 PM
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Lol just plain wrong, they do complain.. sometimes more. You just want so bad to be absolved of any responsibility or guilt and blame it all on men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:28 PM
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I said ‘relevant’ but still off topic. Because yes we’re talking about porn so its somewhat relevant, but I wasn’t talking about wether the porn industry was good or not, I was talking instead about specifically how many women claim its all for mens sake yet theyre the ones making it and getting paid etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:11 PM
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Haha yeah, greatttt logic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:41 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:12 AM
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Yeah thats messed up. A little off topic tho but still pretty relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:53 AM
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Probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:53 AM
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Lol true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:52 AM
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Its like talking to a brickwall
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:52 AM
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1-Im not saying its great, im just saying Im not against porn in general either (as long as its consensual and all that) I think the effects can potentially be terrible on humanity and younger ppl especially, but so can alcohol etc.. so its hard to say. 2-just like women have Alpha Fucks/Beta Bux dual mating strategies where they often want to make a serious relationship with providers and have a more sexual relationship with the Alphas, so too Men have the dual strategy of slutty/low investment…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:10 AM
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Probably not.. but maybe. Im also not super into marriage in general either.. FWB works pretty good for my personality. But That was a side note to the whole point tho so not sure why you’re asking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:47 AM
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Right, im not saying the industry is healthy. Im just saying that Good or Bad, women are just as complicit and as a side note, it kind of blows the ‘women are sexually honourable’ thing out of the water.. wether for money or pleasure or a mix of both, millions of women are participating willingly and noones talking about what it means about women in general, except that it may ‘harm them’ due to evil men.. what else is new
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:46 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:43 AM
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Ive got more statues than her.. replicas of venus de milo, apollo etc.. so all good! No but seriously, you’re mostly right. Men aren’t intimidated, and if they show anything close to intimidation its because they instinctively know that for ever dollar more she earns than him she will be that much less secure in her feeling of him being worthy (financially and providingly at least) But if she’s with you for so called ‘alpha’ reasons it won’t matter as much. But if you’re going for the provider a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:36 AM
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Yes, my thoughts exactly. Theres killing spiders and then there’s exterminating the whole house.. just like there’s making dinner and then there’s catering a royal wedding
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:48 AM
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I hate hypocrites, I really do.. However for it to be truly a ‘double standard’ or hypocrisy, each sides situation would have to be the same.. and when it comes to: a)availability to easily have casual sex and ONS & b)the severity of consequences from casual sex .. Well, men and women are clearly not the same. If you took 2 ppl and put one in front of a buffet and another on a deserted island alone, would you use the same measuring stick to morally assess their eating habits? Would you praise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:27 AM
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Agreed, joke or not its too far. Theres many reasons to hit a person but having a preference isn’t one of them
/r/PussyPassDenied14/11/20 07:58 PM
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Ok I agree with your worst case scenario and that it wasn’t as bad as that. However: if you physically injure someone and they’re in a coma then you’ll get one charge.. and if they then die then you will get a worse charge. Thats just one example of how yes, the outcome does make the original action worse, if that action stays the same
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:32 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:55 AM
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Nooo, never realized thanks for pointing it out! / s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:30 AM
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She sounds terrible lol But yes, exactly, side with who’s right not who’s blood
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:28 AM
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Wish her well after she deceived your son for years and was planning to continue deceiving him for life? And cheated on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:28 AM
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Lol yup
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:19 AM
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Yes but thats like saying ‘ppl adopt cats all the time, therefor its ok to just dump 10 cats onto someone and leave town cause you know, ppl adopt cats all the time’ Like no, its completely different. He never chose to raise another mans kids
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:18 AM
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Just look at a few of the comments here or go to feminist or FDS subs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:15 AM
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Makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:14 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:14 AM
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No im saying the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:14 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:12 AM
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Damn yeah forgot about that too.. its fuckin insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:52 AM
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Yeah thats double crazy when you think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:51 AM
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No wether he is the father of not, the fact that he might not be and she didn’t inform him that its an option is worse than just cheating. Why is that so difficult to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:49 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:47 AM
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What sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:53 PM
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Fair enough. But its implied that im also interested what the average woman would do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:52 PM
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Here here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 02:09 PM
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Thats great, but rare. And Id argue rarer in women than men (but purely anecdotal)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 02:07 PM
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Thats why I said ‘not direct competition’
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 02:06 PM
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Good for you.. treat him good then!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:34 PM
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“Of all evil I deem you capable: Therefore I want good from you. Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws.” -Nietzsche
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:35 AM
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Ive thought about this a lot and have a loose theory.. if you think about it, for countless millennia females (and smaller weak males) would be/could be, at any moment, physically punished for challenging those bigger than them. Obviously this is a gross simplification but its true in general terms. So if direct communication is off the table for fear of reprisal, it makes sense that they would develop ways of communicating that aren’t as direct. Also, manipulative tactics would be a must since …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 05:15 PM
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Nah just alot of them suck (but so do alot of men) Probably the best thing is to have a Woman who is able and willing to have a career and step in without hesitation to help provide if need be, BUT (if the man is successful enough) wants more to be a loving mother and wife and mainly isn’t a : 1-Ruthless opportunist (Alpha Fucking for a decade and monkey branching) even tho she could because she’s attractive and 2-isn’t a hypocrite (understands men have their own struggles too and doesn’t expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:10 AM
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Good point But individuals make up a society so in a roundabout way it does come down to and back to the individual again. Tho that doesn’t negate your point.. it just goes full circle back to the fact that ‘yes its systematic, but we have to change the system by being better ourself’
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:00 AM
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Ok but thats self-reporting about having lied before.. like ever. Where are the one I linked was real time studying lying with or without polygraph and women lied much more in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 11:09 AM
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Wait this one from last week? It actually says the opposite of what you’re saying. Mens answers BARELY change when hooked up to a lie-detector, where as womens answers DRASTICALLY change https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jfikn8/womens_reported_sexual_partner_count_dramatically/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:22 AM
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Yes sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:22 AM
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Ok well lets use another comparison, even if not perfect. Is it ok for a doctor that sucks at their job (out of laziness or not caring) to then demand the best care and get mad at another doctor for being equally bad out of laziness or not caring? Or a butcher who serves rotten meat who then turns around and makes a big fuss when another butcher does the same? Thats the hypocrisy im talking about here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:50 AM
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We’re saying the Same thing then in one way. But I supposes whats unethical is if you’re fat, broke, unattractive and have no value but expect a girl who is hot and thin and has money...And you know you don’t bring any value but still insist on those standards and somehow get her to be with you (maybe by tricking or lying?) Its very simple: if your giving equal value (even if in very different forms) then its good. But If you clearly have less value but still want/insist on a high value traits t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:54 AM
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Nah you’re missing their point entirely, almost purposely just to be obtuse. Its the same as working less hard than someone at the same job and expecting the same pay. Its hypocritical and inherently Bullshit. The only question is adding the values up to see if they are equal ..which is notoriously difficult.. infact the whole reason for money is to have a common denominator for the value if things.. its hard to compare chickens with cows.. what, is it 15 chickens per 1 cow? Well what if I only …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:33 AM
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It literally may be what drives evolution (or at least a huge factor) Women better themselves and then lose desire for Man unless he also betters himself and therefor keeps the gap of superiority alive. Its evolve or die/don’t get reproductive access
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:55 PM
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Ok but, its a crazy implication. There’s so many consequential ripples to your statement (if true) that it opens up a pandoras box
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:25 AM
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Can’t argue too much with that synopsis
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:24 AM
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Wth? So only opposite genders can interact?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:23 AM
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Yeah fair enough. You’re probably right its more nurture than nature.. But also as you pointed out I may just be attracting those type, id like to point out you’re looking at it from your perspective, which is someone who wants to be treated well, so you assume (subconsciously maybe) that everyone wants the same. But im telling you, alot of Womwn want to be treated harshly (but not abusively) its a weird thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:27 AM
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Who does that? More Women than you would think. Its a common thing, just ask most Men. Hence why Im asking about it. (And for sure abuse is more likely to cause it, but is it the only cause?) or could it be an innate thing.. just like Women are more attracted to Men who show psychopathic tendencies.. its counter-intuitive, but its a real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:14 PM
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Yeah yeah thats always the excuse anytime anyone says anything generalizing Women. I mean, obviously there could be some truth to it.. but its just such an easy throwaway answer that stops the conversation dead and instead of looking at potential patterns in the group it turns all onus around on the individual... which again, is wise to a degree (always best to look at yourself first) but as an option, not as a classic go-to anytime anyone questions a groups behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:42 PM
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Yeah was thinking that too,. Classic ‘chicken or egg’ scenario. Either way there does seem to be a correlation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:38 PM
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Yeah good point.. classic fairy tale is indeed that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:37 PM
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4) Men are disgusted by female sexuality and hate promiscuous women Its not nearly as simple or straightforward as that.. if it were, alot of men wouldn’t love the idea of sharing their wife or gangbangs or even one night stands etc.. Its complicated. Its more like that Men don’t want to provide for promiscuous Women long term and are disgusted if they feel they are getting used for their resources .. (just like Women love sex, but are disgusted if they feel they are being used just for sex only…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:22 PM
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Ok but forget all that.. either way, the rest of what he’s saying is true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:09 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2sOK5yH5ns
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:03 PM
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Na thats a stretch. 1- assuming most men stonewall constantly is a big claim 2- then assuming that these same men have forgotten that they stonewalled and really thought everything was ok? I don’t buy it. Quite a lot of hoop jumping to blame men here for womens ability to move on easily
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:58 PM
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Oh wow. Sorry to hear that thats terrible. But yeah I think thats a pretty specific situation. We’re talking on average, with a general breakup (not death) Women usually move on quicker
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:54 PM
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I do.. genuinely. But I feel like I like one Woman as a friend for ever 10 guys. Just harder to find an actually cool Woman to be friends with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:16 AM
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Yeah I think that the Alpha Widowed phenomenon (just learned the term myself) “A woman, usually with average sexual market value (SMV), who sleeps with a high sexual market value male , a/k/a the alpha male, who does not wish to have a long-term relationship with the woman. The woman views the alpha male as superior to most, if not all, of the other men pursuing her, and so the woman continues to lust after the alpha male she cannot have, sacrificing future long-term relationships with lower-SMV…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:24 PM
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But don’t women have less close friends than men on average
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:06 AM
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How is that even an answer? So dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:04 AM
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Oh shit .. I have the book but never read it. Exactly what I was saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:45 AM
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Yeah for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:23 AM
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Yes exactly. Had this happen multiple times too. The thing is they are actually easy to manipulate once you understand how to game them.. but then you’re a manipulative asshole (like for real, not just accused of being one but actually are at that point).. but if you don’t do it, then she* loses all interest and treats you like shit. Its just bad all around and doesn’t make for a healthy relationship and like you said, you can’t ever relax. Sure its good to have some RP game techniques to use on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:42 PM
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Nah see now you’re being too harsh and concluding the opposite without evidence. You don’t know for sure it was nothing I was agreeing with you saying its not enough to count as a legal rape.. but saying it was nothing is bullshit too. You can be quite drunk and not really be 100% aware you’re getting into a situation until you’re fully in it .. and then it can sober you up quick and make you realize whats going on. Is that full on rape? Not really. Is it full consent? Definitely not.. somewhere…
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 09:38 PM
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Damn yeah thats messed up. A woman would at least have had that. And even she wasn’t prosecuted, getting charged and brought through it all mightve made her at least think twice about being shitty to other ppl.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 05:28 PM
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No he’s not allowed to define what is traumatic but he’s not saying that at all.. the law is allowed to define what is a crime and he’s asking the same questions a prosecutor would. Maybe he’s going about it in a dick way but he’s kinda got a point. (And calling him not empathetic has nothing to do with the law.. tho I agree one should be kinder in general and that the law ≠ doesn’t equal being hurt and traumatized.. they’re separate things) It sounds like she definitely took advantage of you an…
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 04:44 PM
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Real healthy viewpoint thx for chiming in /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:35 AM
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Haha you’re braindead for real. Just reread what you wrote and see if it makes sense in response to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:34 AM
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Hhaha wtf best bot ever
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:57 AM
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Actually it was cause I had too many characters to post so I had to shorten ‘low n-count’ to virgins..but yeah you know my whole energy from one word
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:56 AM
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Okayyy.. Think you lost the plot but whatever. I said what I had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:55 AM
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Yeah but thats being promiscuous. Im talking about cheating.. or at least get mad at sluts who have a higher propensity to cheat and try to settle down but not at men doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:53 AM
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Hmm you’re probably right (but I hope you’re wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:51 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:50 AM
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Im not denying anything.. you said there was ONE cause, I said theres many more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 12:27 AM
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Haha am I? Ok.. thanks for telling me before its too late
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:57 PM
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Thanks, good thing you told me 6 times I didn’t get it the first 5
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:57 PM
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Yeah well thats cause you’re a moron
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:51 PM
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Nope. Because they are both forms of value.. just because they are different types of contribution doesn’t mean anything. Thats why money was invented, to try to calculate and trade different values fairly. A double standard is wanting more value while giving less (to a fair relationship).. not giving different types of value. The fact that its taken multiple back and forths and you still aren’t getting it makes me laugh at your accusations and any claim of being skilled in logic that you make
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:51 PM
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Yeah this is true. But does it still Effect the marriage poorly later on? Studies seem to indicate yes which makes it an interesting dillema
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:44 PM
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You may have a point in the later half, but you said Monogamy has suffered greatly due to one thing: they suppressed the hypergamic cock carousel urges of women while NOT suppressing the polygynic and pussy carousal urges of men. You gotta be joking. Like Feminism, females in general or the anti-establishment (mostly extreme Left) campaigning to break up the family unit for over half a century had nothing to do with it? No of course not.. lets just blame it on ‘Men’ as always
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:43 PM
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No its not and no I didn’t. Think you’re mixing me up with the other person. But anyway ill answer now for the first time.. A stay at home wife isn’t hypocritical at all.. if shes putting in equal(ish) value in contributing to the shared goal of a well functioning family/household then thats not hypocritical at all.. but if she expects him to contribute money and equal housework while she only contributes house work, then that goes beyond preference of type of value and is now in the realm of cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:38 PM
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Right but they’re not always connected either. Sometimes it is just pure hypocrisy And sometimes it is just pure preference And ok I gave 3 options I assumed ppl would give more.. you got me there that theres more Options than 3 I gave but that’s exactly why I posed it, to see what im missing/what others would say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:35 PM
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Thats a fair question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:31 PM
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What? When did I ever say a word against , or even about, stay at home moms? You’re actually mentally handicapped im sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:29 PM
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Again you’re confounding preferences with hypocrisy. Women select based on status , and money is an indicator of status and ability so yeah preference mixed with a bit of hypocrisy , but mostly just preference. But golddiggers are looked down upon and for multiple good reasons, one being the hypocrisy. Do you really need another example? You’re brain doesn’t seem to be capable of grasping the difference even tho I gave ample examples. Btw you accused me of logical fallacies but then didn’t use a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:26 PM
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I like how you make personal accusations about someone being ‘seething’ and then wait for them to respond angrily to your trolling only to respond ‘see, told ya you were seething’ lol nice little manipulative self-fulfilling trap you lay there.. Real Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:21 PM
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Im a Man you idiot. And I lean more RP than anything and have a higher than average n-count (not bragging but its relevant.. and nothing crazy but in the higher range) I also believe in integrity and not being a piece of shit (unless that person did something to you) and hate hypocrites from every gender (tho I do see more female hypocrites on average, and they protect their own hypocrisies as a group more.. that being said, theres alot of exceptions and id take a non-hypocritical woman as frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:18 PM
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I think you’re the one with the logical fallacies trying to justify being a piece of shit by ‘muh preferences and nature’.. Show me wheres my logical fallacies in anything I said or the examples I gave?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:10 PM
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Jesus christ Youre impossible.. YOU brought up the seething!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:08 PM
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Ok I think you have a point.. But why do the studies show men with high n-count have bad marriages/divorce more as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:07 PM
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No you brought up the seething, hence why I said ‘if you want to look at it that way, then all life is seething cause all life is unfair’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:43 PM
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Again, theres having high dating preferences and theres being hypocritical.. big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:42 PM
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Life is perpetual seething either way if you want to look at it that way. Might as well try to have some rules so it doesn’t descend into chaos (but also not too many rules cause that stifles and ends in chaos too) And one of those rules is don’t be a hypocritical piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:22 PM
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I mean yeah, the pursuit of fairness is gonna suck, obviously. And taken too far turns into communism and ends being just as bad or worse than how it originally was. But not pursuing fairness means foresaking the whole group/species.. which means you 1- then don’t have a higher purpose beyond yourself and 2-Selfishly, in the end, screws you and your Genes over cause it destabilizes and threatens you and your DNA.. Hence theres a tight rope walk needed between fairness and competing to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:20 PM
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Read my edit on last comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:17 PM
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Wanting a less masculine(=less hairy legged) looking woman is natural, so yeah the preference is natural . Most I can prove yes(or at least show with common sense).. But no I can’t prove my main question one is.. hence why I posed the question. Altho it does seem that women like men who are players and men don’t like women who sleep around alot.. for natural reasons.. so the preferences there kinda make sense. But neither sex likes a cheater. So its not so simple. And also noone going into a mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:10 PM
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Double standards (bc of nature) are unavoidable. Im anti-communist to the core. Its not about caring what strangers think its about living with fucking integrity. Play the game to win, but play it as fair as possible. Hypocrisy is not the same as a double standard, especially not a naturally occurring one. I can’t be any clearer, read my examples and a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:02 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:00 PM
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True. And fair enough. I guess if you were resolved to not to cheat and really had that intention then it would be good.. and also that you wouldn’t be upset if she rejected you on it. Respectable (tho I agree, very few women would care) Now if the role was reversed and she had a high n count but was resolved to be faithful would you get mad at her for trying to ride the CC and get off or?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:59 PM
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You clearly don’t understand the difference between Hypocrisy and whatever examples youre giving. ——- A short guy dating a tall woman isn’t hypocrisy. A short guy refusing to date a short woman is closer to hypocrisy (altho that can still be, like you said, just a difference in preferences) A guy wanting a woman to bring stability to a marriage while he knows he won’t is blatant hypocrisy. ———- A hairy legged guy wanting a shaved girl isn’t hypocrisy (bc they are separate preferences) A super sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:55 PM
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If he’s planning to steal or knows he probably will steal? Then yes, thats exactly what he should do.. not go work and steal from Ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:49 PM
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Yeah but thats like if you were probably going to steal from a small business that hired you and say ‘well that owner has free will and chose me willingly even tho he knew I had a past stealing record’ Like no, its still your fault for stealing and if you’re quite sure you’re going to steal but you care about that owner/humanity, then don’t accept the job (This all assuming high n count guys are indeed prone to cheat much more)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:37 PM
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No I hear ya.. they respond well to players and a certain level of keeping them in line. Im just saying in general tho if you as a guy wanted to settle down but have been sleeping around alot, whats the moral thing to do (for the future marriage)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:35 PM
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Hmm interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:33 PM
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Pls explain and share studies/thread with studies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:33 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:28 PM
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Interesting. Great answer thanks. Except your “Edit” is questionable. Its 1-anecdotal and 2-would matter. For my own sake I hope you’re right as to why the studies found that.. but if it was for the same reason and made men equally bad at marriages then it would indeed matter I think
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:27 PM
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What? Firstly im not BP by any means.. but I try to be focused on fairness (when it can be reasonably done/expected.. in other words Im not a Commie.. but I think blind greed should be reigned in.. somewhere centred) 2nd- I get what you’re sayin somewhat: double standards and unfairness is a part of nature and has to be accepted to a degree.. but theres a difference between a naturally occurring double standard vs pure hypocrisy. (And also shaved legs is not a good example for multiple reasons..…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:23 PM
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Agreed. You can’t use tactics and then get mad when the other side uses the same ones back
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:36 AM
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Agree with your title but your explanations then make it seem like Men don’t cheat and lie..when they clearly do. I think Women may do it more, or at least more subconsciously.. and they definitely get away with it more and are excused by society wayyyyy more, and its very unfair and frustrating.. but the actual act of cheating is almost equal so you can’t say Mens ‘bad behaviour’ is only reactionary
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:39 PM
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Definitely a fair point, tonnes of guys blaming everyone but themselves. Its one of the worst traits ever to be honest (and unfortunately so common in humans) But.. 1-I think the truth is a bit of both. Its like black ppl in america.. they commit more crime on average because of their shitty culture AND bc they were enslaved and screwed over. Its a combination of internal and external reasons.. just like men finding it harder to get laid or find a partner these days. ‘Feminist liberation’ has de…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:31 PM
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Right. But you don’t just ignore it either.. if a male friend fails at the banter the boys are less likely to call him to go out.. or trust him as much in general.. or start a business with him etc.. so yeah youre right, Everyone’s Constantly testing everyone, usually subconsciously
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:39 PM
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Yes I understand the concept of anecdotal experience vs empirical statistics. However theres also such things as common sense and blindingly obvious trends . (Tho one of sciences’ main jobs is to challenge our intuitive thinking, again some things are just very obvious)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:34 PM
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Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:53 PM
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Interesting, good you found a balance that works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:52 PM
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Agreed.. but again, in modern western society, in hetero relationships, it seems to be women doing alot more of the controlling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:44 PM
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Experience living in western society makes it painfully obvious that what im saying is true, anecdotal or not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:35 PM
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Yep. Or anyone in a relationship. The amount of demanding and controlling karens always pushing their way with their husbands far outweighs the reverse in the 1000s of relationships ive seen (in western society)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:34 PM
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Right except its not all joy when he ‘passes’ or ‘wins’ her game.. theres a simultaneous feeling of joy that he won but sadness/frustration she didn’t get her way. Thats what im talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:31 PM
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No its not that simple, I already said that and you just repeated what I already said I don’t agree with but you didn’t give any argument. Nietzsche would be sad :(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:30 PM
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Yes yes ive heard that all before (and its mostly true) But my specific question is about the female dilemma of wanting control yet being less attracted when she gets it. Again ive seen it in many relationships not just mine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:29 PM
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I did, in the video he references studies that show what im talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:26 PM
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Can I reframe as a debate or some other flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:24 PM
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100% Already knew all that (but its good to repeat always) Thats why I posed it as a Q4Women. I already know what Men should do, but want to know what Women think about their dillema
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:24 PM
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Sounds like u may have found the ever elusive balance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:22 PM
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Ok but wheres the toxic femininity and misandry fit into all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:29 AM
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So you’re saying Men/Toxic Masculinity is the cause of Mens problems and Womens problems? but Women/Toxic Femininity isn’t the cause of anyones problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:03 PM
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Lol. But do u see my other point? Even if a compromise can’t be found, its still extremely useful to define the problems and those ppl/types of thinking that hold back solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:20 PM
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Mods closed thread down cause this is apparantly a rant? How on earth is asking for a solution to intersex relationships a rant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:45 PM
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Yes in the work place its a big issue (tho admittedly still tied to mating) with sexual harassment from one side and then false sexual harassment claims from the other. I would think twice about hiring or working closely a woman now where as before I wouldn’t as much. So yeah, its effecting a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:23 PM
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Bro, I was feelin you a bit (especially on the legal reform) but alot of that other stuff is super exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:20 PM
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Damn thats a heavy quote at the end there. Ok but if you read my whole post, if we at least really breakdown and pin point that that is indeed true what youre saying, we can then ignore or call out those ppl and point them to our collective conclusion. We can at least identify the problem super clearly so it can be collectively weeded out or recognized in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:19 PM
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Haha thanks.. Like i said im a cynical bastard half the time but fuck, gotta at least try to be solution oriented once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:16 PM
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Interesting. Ok so what about a group for each one, like a club? That way its clear from the onset which roles (or not) your into
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:15 PM
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For sure, personal responsibility is key and blind hate that becomes a habit doesn’t help. However, everyone expects men to fix things for them and change for their group, but its unreasonable to ask the same back? Doesn’t make sense. And women are a leading cause of many of mens problems (or to be more precise, men caring about women is the cause of many of mens problems) so yeah, hardcore feminism is hurting men directly in many ways, so its not crazy that they would focus on one of their main…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:13 PM
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Interesting. Would like to see some practical solutions women come up with for men regarding these
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:12 PM
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You’re missing the point.. im not talking about just mating im talking about all intersex interacting.. all of it, for living and society in general
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:05 PM
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Wrap it up, found our problem and solution guys haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:03 PM
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Well said. How can we correct it? Even if it takes multiple generations? And also leaving out the ‘fire and brimstone’ sin preaching that seemed to be the only thing that worked before. How to convince everyone to be more discerning but without using shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:03 PM
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Wth? Really? This isn’t a rant im trying to actually make a framework to solve stuff.. come on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:53 PM
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Fair question. It kinda reminds me of how many Women try their hardest to control a man and boss him around and if he doesn’t ‘give in’ she respects him more (yet may be simultaneously, paradoxically, slightly annoyed that he’s not listening to her demands) Its almost the exact same with sex for Men. We’re disappointed in the short term but it gains more long term respect. Now 1-it also depends on the man and his wants (some guys only want LTR’s and others only want hookups, so they are more 1 d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:50 PM
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Ok so how do we 1-Make you better and/or 2- Make women better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:03 AM
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Interesting. So you’re saying none of those 3 is right or wrong, they just present different issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:02 AM
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No I mean for the sexes to actually benefit eachother on a large group scale, not just the best selfish action for an individual in todays bullshit society,.. I mean building a better society/dynamic with eachother. I mean yeah I guess your answer still holds true to a degree.. But I mean how can each sex see its faults and do better, and play to our strengths.. and create some good will so if we call eachother out we know its towards an actual group goal (better future?) and not just tribalisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:01 AM
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Fantastic.. thats sounding great so far
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:56 AM
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For sure. But yeah I meant less hypocritical people than her that are just genuinely stuck between a rock and hard place (or 2 dicks? Lol) Who truly want to have a loving long term relationship but also know that they stray.. so instead of lying and cheating they try to have the best of both worlds. Not saying its right or wrong, its more just interesting to see the 2 opposing desires play out in a single person and to see each persons reaction to the same problem. Some ppl just get married and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 07:16 PM
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What? Nah, condoms are a thing you know. Maybe herpes but other than that just wear condoms and don’t believe fully in the abrahamic religions and you’re good to go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:28 PM
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This might be why there’s such a big push for Polyamory. Ppl who can’t commit to one person still longing for some type of long term relationship Also you should post this on unpopular opinion see what the general public have to say about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:20 PM
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When you say the first you are met with the usual you're insecure or incel comments Truth so might as well say whatever you want without the pc bullshit Nah. Not shaming ppl isn’t ‘pc bullshit’. ... you Shouldn’t just shame promiscuous people for being promiscuous (if they aren’t hurting anyone) However we should educate other men and the next generation on the truths about male/female relationships and yes, call cheaters and hypocrites out and not put a halo over womens heads
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 09:12 AM
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Why do they have to be phoney? You can be diplomatic without being phoney (tho it is a tricky line) Also theres a balance here.. putting her on a pedestal above you is one extreme, the opposite extreme being treating her like a stranger that you care 0 about., the balance is treating her as equal or slightly below you (not to make her insecure but just cause you have to value yourself first right?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:52 AM
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One reason mite be feminists get a pat on the back and a pass and a revolutionary respect when they spend their lives fighting ‘the Man’ but MRAs get laughed at and ridiculed. Plus most men can’t just bail on their ruined lives and set up shop in someone elses if things don’t work, so theres gonna be less of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:27 PM
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Yep.. triple bad if she once rejected you before but now wants you and you reject her. Can’t handle the ego blow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 04:03 PM
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Yeah it makes sense. These guys figured it alongggg time ago and made a great song about it! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ZJiBHh-Yw The simple (and well known) reason its makes sense is bc Women are put on a pedestal due to Male thirst so even if the man and womans attractiveness level is technically near even, she gets a point or 2 extra cause shes a female... so yes, to balance her large pool and minor celebrity status it makes sense her attractiveness level would have to be a bit lower to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:59 PM
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This is a pretty fair point. Shouldn’t they admit it at least tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:57 AM
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Haha gooood one /s Tootles
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:49 AM
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1stly im not joined up to MRA anything, but the fact that you don’t think Men should have Rights Activism shows me everything I need to know about your unbiased and misandrist ass. 2ndly tho obviously not as damaging, you realize that women physical abuse men at the same rates right? Thats not to mention the mental and emotional abuse, but just talking physical. So yeah, it as actually a strong trend. But anyway im not saying male on female violence is nothing, its obviously a big issue .. but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:17 AM
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You can say that but you’d be a tremendously idiotic person for doing so. I didn’t say he was innocent, I said there wasn’t evidence of his guilt and how downright terrible it is for you to take those things as evidence. As for being sexist for saying that a joke he made about abusing her , I didn’t say it was ok I just said IT WASN’T PROOF. But apparently when a real woman actually cuts off the penis of a man (not a joke, she actually did it) not only can it be said without ppl being ‘guilty’ o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:04 AM
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Haha ok im abusive now because I want real evidence. Fuckin ridiculous. The fact you can say that shows everything And what text to his assistant I don’t know what you’re talking about now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:54 AM
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Yeah thats all fair, some good points
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:52 AM
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Sounds like he didn’t get what he deserved, he sounds like a piece of shit (and your male partner isn’t much better bc in that situation its obvious that he shouldve stepped in since you aren’t a stranger and had proof)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:51 AM
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The only thing you’ve said this entire time that may have some credence is there were witnesses... buuut they are ambers friends so yeah, takin that with a grain of salt. Everything else you said is irrelevant and you calling me the problem is insane.. you keep giving ridiculous evidence for his guilt (‘he was jealous’ ‘ he liked to drink and do drugs’ ... like are you okay in the head? That means literally nothing) Your Man hating is clear, just stop
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:47 AM
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You’re reaching with the original comment and with your accusations of him.Its conjectural , and the first comment is out of place in this thread really And the fact that you said that text was ‘evidence enough’ shows why we can’t let people like you judge the rest of the world, cause thats some caveman level thinking and the very reason why laws are put in to place to prevent fallacies and mob mentality from punishing innocent ppl (altho the mob seems to be winning and ignoring laws lately ) Le…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:36 AM
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No but why did you post ‘johnny depp isn’t innocent’ in the first place? And by the way, so far he’s only proved to be guilty of drug use and vulgar violent jokes, where she was caught admitting to abuse on audio.. so you’re comment is wrong (it mite come out later he did, but as of yet there is no proof). But im still confused why you posted it here in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:26 AM
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Is evidence enough of what, that he actually beat her? No its not, sorry. No saying he’s a great guy but texting his friend a terrible joke (about a woman that was proven to be abusive to him) is a far cry from proof that he abused her. But anyway wtf does this even have to do with this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:22 AM
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Where? Link the exact audio.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:56 AM
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Think you’re in the wrong thread. But tell me, did this woman who wrote the article say the same ‘balanced’ thing before the Depp vs Heard stuff? Or did she only come to her revelation that ‘victims can be abusers too’ when the famous victim was a Man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:25 AM
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I would just ask you to look deeper into why you want to wear lingerie in public etc.. Subconsciously it seems to me probably bc you want to look sexy, but don’t want aggressive assholes to do stupid shit, but still want the benefit that looking sexy gets you (attention, higher status etc..) I could be wrong, but it seems to me its a subconscious thing that ppl just don’t look deeply into (yet still want to make up rules for)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:49 PM
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1stly obviously theres no way u could know that 2ndly if we’re guessing, Id say the fact that men silently commit suicide at astronomical rates, not to mention how men shun emotion and don’t talk forever about how bad they have, is a pretty good indicator that they would not cry half as bad as women do now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:30 PM
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Nah no way. Online maybe starting in the last few years, but on the news, in shows and movies, in public.. they get so much lee way and halo passes its crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:28 PM
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We don’t ever hear the end of it already
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:52 PM
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I think men and women are both narcissistic sometimes in different way but it comes down to all people suck sometimes some worse than other but none the less people often have unreasonable expectations of others that come from selfishness. Agreed. The difference tho is one group is publicly called out all the time while the other isn’t (publicly and accepted, not talking online on Reddit)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:51 PM
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Having a mans child isn’t a public service.. its a selfish one first, then a private ‘service’ (if u want to call it that) to her partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:30 PM
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Yeah. But its not just protection its also just little things all the time. Women (especially the worst narcissistic ones but even alot of normal ones) make general demands and requests of men that other men would never dream of.. even older women asking boys to run errands etc.. its just a general higher level of group entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:28 PM
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Fair enough. Especially your last paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:24 PM
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Part of fixing the issues is telling the truth about the problem, hence my post addressing one of the problems and trying to make it clear before proceeding to a solution. But we can’t agree on the problem even so how can a solution be made?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:18 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:15 PM
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Yeah thats crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:14 PM
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Fair enough. I thought she was referring mainly to old folks homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:13 PM
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Can’t fight for ourselves without seeming like crazy women haters, thats my point. Just like early feminism (but its even worse cause men are perceived to be so much stronger that it looks even worse than when feminists did it)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:12 PM
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Against women, yeah we kinda are. Accused of being assholes if we stand up against the hive of women and white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:48 AM
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I thought if women were in charge the world would be equal and better... but then its all ‘fuck u guys fight for change if u want it’..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:19 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:12 AM
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Okayy My point is that women don’t want men to change their manly role, except for maybe be less aggressive towards them. So its women keeping traditional Roles in place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:07 AM
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Thats terrible to hear. Maybe the men are just shocked and confused? Idk anytime its been clear a woman is being harrased ive seen men step in and stepped in myself time and time again. But if its 2 secs of screaming they might just be shocked? I dont know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:00 AM
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You’re probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:53 AM
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Didn’t say that. Its more like both sexes have terrible toxic behaviour and try to get as much out of eachother as possible, yet men are called out way more these days and women get much more of a pass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:45 AM
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Yes well said. Very toxic behaviours from both sexes that we need to be honest about and address.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:44 AM
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Thats terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:38 AM
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Fair enough. But im sure women enjoyed cooking and emotionally supporting men before, but now its seen as degrading somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:26 AM
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Haha okayyy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:24 AM
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I agree split the bill for that reason. But no im not being contradictory.. I didn’t say ‘went out on a few dates’ I said intentionally stringing him along and encouraging him orbiting. So it depends. But either way he’s an idiot and shouldnt expect anything, but again theres degree of understanding his feeling entitled (even none of those degrees justify him actually expecting sex fully)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:24 AM
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Funny how you say I don’t live in the real world yet you’re claiming a double standard doesn’t exist. 1stly Women only don’t walk alone at night because it’s secluded and dark.. or they get wasted and can’t control themselves.. are women really afraid to be sober at night at places with lots of men to help? No. Its walking in secluded areas. 2nd Men won’t do shit’ Haha good one, keep telling yourself that I said animals and accidental danger not just from predatory men, so take it easy with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:18 AM
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Some *good points., but im telling you its women who want stereotypical men more than men wanting to remain so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:40 AM
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You said caregiver for the elderly so I figured an old folks home.. And no, its still different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:33 AM
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Some fair points. And yeah you’re ex sounds like an entitled baby. But let me ask you this, how many more female narcissists that demand everyone drop everything for them have you found compared to males? Theres alot more mothers out there (unfortunately for you and others) than fathers out there that do that. Then again theres alot more male murderers etc.. But entitlement is the issue and I think its more prevalently accepted in females than males. But some fair points there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:21 AM
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Everyone always says that “you must be attracting the wrong type of women” I talk to All types of women from literally all over the world (I travel quite a bit and have lived in multiple continents) from different classes.. but the western feminist women are the worst and are also spearheading the whole ‘movement’ And you say most women care more about mens rights than MRAs? Im sorry but what planet are u living on? Just cause your rad-fem female friends offhandedly say “yeah I care about mens r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:26 AM
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Agree to disagree. The initial point was trying to say men are insecure to make less because of their own insecurities, and while that may be partially true, id argue its because of womens natural (and understandable) hypergamy/preference for higher status. Again im not mad it, lets just call a spade a spade. And yeah I feel they may not treat him differently immediately, but it would seep in and change her behaviour eventually (id say 90% women if I had to guess) Its like asking a guy who’s mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:20 AM
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I really don’t get any of what you said (or its relevance) but damn im feeling your username a little too much
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:01 AM
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While I think guns and weapons are cool, I wouldn't want everybody carrying them. People can be crazy, reckless or make mistakes. Agreed.. it would be great for women but in general, doesn’t seem to be working to well in America right now. Can't we say that what men get from women in this context is that, well, women are much less likely to be the cause of a man needing protection in the first place? That men don't have to worry about a woman overpowering them (usually), that they rape and rob l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:00 AM
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I am because I actually ask female friends about it (in their 20s and 30s) Most want a man of higher status than herself, especially when it comes to 1- actual height, 2-income and 3-education. Obviously they can all be lenient to a degree i.e. if he’s really tall and handsome itll matter less about his income, and vice versa, etc.. but in general its quite important to most women that he make more than her or is on his way to do so ambitiously
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:54 AM
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I mean I guesss you’re technically right, but thats still not doing me a public service. The fact that women can jump out the way of a moving car doesn’t make the me think ‘oh she’s capable to help herself, thats uglyyy’ Also if a woman carried a gun and wasn’t afraid to use it, that would not make me less attracted to her at all. As long as she wasn’t manly in other ways or always aggressive with me or something, then Im actually happy to see her strong and protect herself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:35 AM
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What? How does women who are strangers being delicate help me as much as me helping strange women from danger?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:26 AM
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Yeah fuck.. sorry to hear. Good you were smart enough to dump her right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:24 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6cps40/a_scientific_study_that_actually_does_provide/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:23 AM
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Its called basic levels of perception haha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:16 AM
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Not talking about professions, im talking about publicly (strangers helping strangers) and privately (romantic hetero relationships) BUT if you want to talk professions and jobs, you really gonna sit there and cry about female nurses getting attacked by geriatric patients compared to the job of a firefighter or cop?? Come on nowww.. I was trying to be nice but you kept pushing this personal and professional thing when its not about that. Pls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:04 AM
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Sorry but just, no to that whole last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:01 AM
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Username checks out. Just open your eyes.. read my other comments here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:59 PM
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This isn’t about you specifically, its about a general trend of who risks who’s life more often for the other sex, both publicly and in private relationships,.. and who is expected to give more without reciprocation.. and the answer to both is obviously Men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:56 PM
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Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:55 PM
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There are similarities sure, but still indirect vs direct and not as immediate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:53 PM
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One is risking job, the other is physical harm. No they are clearly not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:14 PM
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Omg not ‘count’ I said twice now thats commendable and good., but yes in my specific example im talking about risking ones life vs reputation or job.. they are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:13 PM
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I mentioned sex as what men are accused of being entitled about.. I specifically said twice that its wrong and I have no sympathy for them, but also that it doesn’t come out thin air, where womens entitlement does. And Im sorry but are you really trying to deny that men and women jump in dangerous situations at the same right, are expected to at the same rate, and do the same chivalrous things at the same rate? Like come on pls stop talking nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:11 PM
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Alriteee I like your style on both of those fronts. Equalize each end. Fair play. Only thing Id say is outside America concealed carry is very rare right, so I feel bad for those women. I think every woman should at least be able to carry mace legally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:08 PM
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Right.. but she had the ability to lie, manipulate and get the tribe on her side which can sometimes have worse consequences. And im not talking about forcing someone physically to give you what you are entitled to.. im talking about more passive expectation.. like a man calling a woman names for leading him on, or a woman calling a man names for not helping her in a dangerous situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:06 PM
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I think you’re in the wrong post there friend.. this isn’t about that, it was just one of the examples of a situation that would require a man to help a woman and how she feels entitled to his help
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:02 PM
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Yeah thats some deuchbaggery-ness right there. But the post wasn’t about if male entitlement happens, but how it doesn’t happen in a vacuum out of nowhere and isn’t as unreciprocated as womens entitlement to protection and provision
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:00 PM
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First of all I think if a woman is being attacked or harassed on the street ANY PERSON would want to help. Men are more likely to do so because they tend to be physically stronger. Most women are not physically capable of fighting most men, it’s just truth. I don’t think any woman feels “entitled” to the protection of male strangers or even asks for it, men who are good dudes just provide it because, well, they’re good dudes and have the capacity to do so. Read my other comments.. its more compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:58 PM
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Feminists are your allies Hahaha im sorry but No. No they are not , and we're fighting the common enemy of traditional gender roles. For women, barely care about mens roles except on how it effects women Things are getting better but it's slow. It's a lot harder because most women agree with feminism, but lots of men are still opposed to the idea of men not being the main breadwinner, or men doing the more 'feminine' role. Again blaming Men when most Women actually want strong, traditional Manly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:54 PM
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Ok, but still. As I said its great and not easy and not Nothing.. but its not the same..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:49 PM
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Crazy. But I believe it (#believeAllMen?) Tell me you dumped her right away (altho when you’re young and dumb I could see somehow not)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:49 PM
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Yeah its because men know, like everyone, that she’ll start treating him crazy different if he earns less because of her inherent hypergamy. Again im not even mad at hypergamy, infact it mightve been one of the main factors that caused us to evolve.. but don’t lie about what we all know deep down inside (and is backed up with multiple studies)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:47 PM
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Fair enough, but that hasn’t been my experience. Ive seen men stop other men all the time and have done so myself on multiple occasions, to the point of white-knighting too much when I was younger (yes it was my choice but again, feel like it was expected/drilled into me) So I guess its anecdotal vs anecdotal stale mate. As for the gender roles its not that im upset with them, im just upset with the inconsistency. i.e. either we agree we are better suited to certain things and play our roles, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:01 PM
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Possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:55 PM
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As for "intruders", I was actually living with a partner when one of our housemates had a visibly frightening mental breakdown. There was no expectation that anyone fight our housemate; we locked the door to our room and waited for emergency services. I just don't know where you get this idea that modern life is full of civilian combat. Maybe you live in a great neighborhood or not in a major city, but its not that rare as you’re saying And what if that same roommate broke down the door, would u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:54 PM
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The "stringing me along" threshold is so low depending on the man I think it's hard to say whether the woman did anything wrong without further details. I have had a guy accuse me of stringing him along after I literally told him repeatedly that I am abstaining from sex. A lot of dudes on this sub have told me "he probably thought you were playing, or didn't mean it, or were asking to be convinced." If a man feels "led on" in a situation like mine it is entirely his fault, period. Fair enough, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:47 PM
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Its more just being flabbergasted at the blatent hypocrisy and wanting to hear what cockamamie excuse they come up with to try to justify it... and also to genuinely see where I could be missing something (tho in this particular case I think its pretty obvious and straightforward BS, im still open somewhat)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:34 PM
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Fair enough, but its not the same. What real danger were you in? Altho commendable and difficult in many ways, Its still not comparable im sorry, tho good that you did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:32 PM
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How many times does a man REALLY have to fight off an intruder? This has never happened to anyone I know in real life. I have never been protected by a man at home or in the street. My father carried a weapon, but that's because he bought it and he owned it. This is not something most women even need to get, let alone act entitled to. It happens all the time on a large scale, just rare for individual cases. It depends where you live too etc.. but none of that matters, the point is you have publi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:31 PM
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Fair. Wait, is me agreeing with your comment now circle-jerking? Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:20 PM
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I don’t know about you but I live out in the real world where almost every woman works full time. If she doesn’t work and doesn’t take care of children and a home then she’s considered a leech off of men and not respected. Yeah Im a ghost I live only in the ethernet /s Yeah you’re right if she’s a golddigger but thats not what I was saying was it? You telling me if a Woman earns half of what her husband makes and they share chores and everything that she’ll be looked down upon as much as if a Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:19 PM
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I clearly stated Twice in the original post that its not right to expect sex because of that and that I have no sympathy for men who do, but that its somewhat understandable and isn’t a big mystery why a man would feel entitled to sex after being strung along or kept as an orbiter.. vs some womens entitlement that they deserve things while giving nothing first. Both are wrong, but one comes out of thin air where the other is slightly more traceable my nuanced point seemed to be intentionally or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:14 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:21 PM
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Lol i guess not if theyre doing that. But actually this is an argument for why TRP-ish type teaching can be really good if done correctly.. cause it can clearly show how get women the right way and how to placate, bc the teachers often emphasize how she owes you nothing but you don’t owe her anything, so be nice but don’t be a chump either by giving and giving ONLY to expect a return
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:19 PM
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I said ‘sane’ But ok I should have added The only time a sane man acts entitled to sex *AND IS NOT CALLED OUT HARSHLY BY OTHER MEN WHO WITNESS IT is if he’s been taking the woman out on dates or doing things for her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:15 PM
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Precisely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:03 PM
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But do you really? You’re telling me if a man and woman are both standing watching someone in physical harm and neither helped, you would judge them both equally the same? Come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:52 PM
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I don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:51 PM
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I think ANYtime ANYone is physically capable of protecting another person from danger, they're expected to do so. If you've got women and you've got men available, it's not that hard to decide which gender is going to be the most suited to providing physical protection. Agreed.. but I would say the same thing with changing a babies diaper and taking care of kids and the house in general etc.. we are better suited to certain roles, I agree.. so why is it Womens traditional roles are being delegat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:37 PM
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Ok , maybe. but what about physical accidents or animal attacks? Sure theyre less common but that doesn’t matter, what about when those happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:29 PM
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No that was just an example of how women claiming ‘men are entitled!’ Isn’t as out of the blue as they claim.. as in most Men only feel entitled when they do things for her (wether thats Right or Wrong is besides the main point) where are Women feel entitled to Mens providing (privately) and protection (publicly and privately) regardless of wether they have done anything for men or not to deserve it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:23 PM
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That last one mite be the only reasonable one.. mainly from female to female competition so they wear sexier clothes to just be at the top level in the female groups/public female group in general. As for comfortable.. ive worn too tight mens shorts and yeah, if its even slightly too tight its noticeable less comfortable than loose basketball shorts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 01:34 AM
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Physical evidence of them wearing uncomfortable shorts instead of loose basketball shorts. Pls stop trying to gaslight me .. at best, you it subconsciously but still do it with a hidden motive (maybe even hidden to yourself) other wise give me one good reason why majority of women wear tight revealing clothes instead of loose ones (you tried to give me 3 or 4 but all of them were absurd)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 01:07 AM
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What are you actually talking about? Cause sometimes those are the only ones in your size. Really? Every store only sells extra tight shorts and you can’t find looser ones? Like come on now thats absurd Some women are too small to fit guys clothes. Some women just don’t have a wide selection of clothes. This is just ridiculous. Stop it. Theres gym clothes for every single size easily accessible everywhere Sometimes it’s just cause women like those ones better. They’re more comfortable, for sure.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:04 PM
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You see men in regular shorts and tshirt, why don’t most women? Why wear extra tight and extra small if its only about the heat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 07:37 AM
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The older I get (only in 30s still) the more it matters. I Used to not care almost at all and looks were the main thing.. now its the opposite. Still nice to have both of course, but a pleasant and well meaning woman can make up for aloooot otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:30 AM
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Yeah im sure you’re a hoot. Most radical feminists are /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:30 PM
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You’re insufferable, go feed your cats
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:53 PM
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Well yeah, of course.. but that doesn’t mean its actually less objectifying, its just differently objectifying. But yeah obviously its been agreed upon that the ~seemingly~ less crass version is better for polite society. My whole point is that its arbitrary and the goal post moves depending on many things, but mainly on the whim and feeling of the woman at the moment... and if they objectify themselves, wether its making their nice hair or nice ass look better, then why can’t we point out what …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:59 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:23 PM
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Except the difference is men don’t lie about it and say ‘Im paying for her dinner for my sake, not for her!’ You’re talking about a different aspect of a similar thing. For instance, if a woman openly and admittedly dolled herself up and sexualized herself and said ‘yeah I do it but its annoying that I have to do it, but if I don’t then Ill only be able to get a low quality man’... then Thats a separate issue and id sympathize alot, bc thats just being annoyed and upset with the game, with life …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:22 PM
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Yes, bc revealing your body is a type of non-verbal communication that screams ‘I want to be seen as being sexually high value’ but then if she hypocritically says verbally ‘hey don’t treat me sexually at all, don’t even mention the fact I look sexy’ then thats double-speak absurdity and we all know it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:14 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:09 PM
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Yes agreed.. it can go too far. And yeah, maybe opinions are best expressed anonymously online only these days haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:08 PM
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Again, just less crass
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:05 PM
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Well Thats just like, your opinion man (not a very informed one either) I do all that (I believe in bettering oneself in general, classic pua and trp advice etc..) and I actually do very well for myself. 1 on 1 I have very little problems. Its more when hearing female friends talk about other guys or complaining about stupid things that are preventable, and admittedly maybe im reading too much online BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:04 PM
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Haha yes! Many!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:59 PM
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I would, if they didn’t stop making life hard haha. I mean fuck, what am I supposed to do just ignore the obvious patterns of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:58 PM
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I am and I have, and guess what.. like most things female its inconsistent and changes on a whim (to suit her, not because of context) Oh, and Don’t you self proclaimed radical feminists always yell ‘we aren’t one homogenous entity!’ But apparently with harassment you are and its a simple google search away?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:56 PM
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I really hate to be agreeing with lillithofbabylon because ive seen how unreasonable she is... but she’s 100% right here. Now if you want to talk about how annoying it is that 16yearolds wear insanely skimpy clothes and you can’t help but look 100ft away and then get closer and realize they’re 16 and say ‘goddammit’ and then feel like a perv, then that’s another discussion (id almost say it should be illegal for minors to wear revealing clothing for multiple reasons) And if you wanna mention (no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:51 PM
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I mean yes, to a degree.. but thats my whole point.. that the degree is getting absurd now (in that any comment from a man is taken as harassment now if he’s not attractive to her, and any behaviour or clothing is ok for a woman to wear yet she still shouldn’t be sexualized at all? Like come on.. im not talking about real abuse.. but simply sexualizing a woman by hitting on her in a normal way should not be considered harassment, especially if she’s wearing super revealing clothes and its out an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:37 PM
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Um because women have less testosterone? And because its more damaging to a woman’s reputation to be considered highly sexual (probably due to competition from other women, thats why slut shaming is mostly girls shaming other girls.. and because women have a set number of eggs and potential pregnancies and men have unlimited so it naturally evolved that women had to be more selective and more careful with their sex, so they developed a lower propensity to sexualize everything.. or at least, to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:33 PM
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If you’re a Data scientist then you should know that yes, those were indeed clear examples of false equivalency. I can’t find the study again so I guess you’re right, scratch that for now Just because some black people say that about the n-word doesn't mean that it's ok. Ok but think about that for a second. Im assuming you’re not black. So you as a non-black person are going to tell ~some~ black ppl what is ok and what isn’t about themselves? How unbelievably arrogant and condescending is that?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:29 PM
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Haha really? You’re going to call me a simpleton while in the same breathe telling me my use of ‘False Equivalency’ is wrong when its clearly right? Hilarious. And, noone deserves to be sexually assaulted.. you’re doing what everyone does, take the extreme of something and argue as if Im advocating that.. just because I don’t agree with your overly PC gynocentric insanity doesn’t mean im on the opposite extreme and think sexual assault is ok... it just means I can use my brain and understand the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:51 PM
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No you’re getting hung up on the ‘Always’ or ‘100% of women are like this’ or ‘Men are 100% this or that’ If you’re dealing in absolutes then yes, you’re right that you can disprove it with one example. But if you’re dealing in degrees and averages like most theories do then finding a woman that doesn’t fit the theory just means shes a rare exception and still doesn’t disprove the theory that most women are like that, etc.. I was literally having a convo with a friend last night who has a gf he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:23 PM
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When easily 50% of what i read there i can say "nah...this isn't really my experience with women", then the entire thing loses credibility Thats literally disproving based on your personal anecdotal individual experience, its the same thing. Its simple.. TRP makes a hypothesis. Wherever it came from doesn’t really matter in the end when trying to prove it right or wrong (it matters before, as in when guessing how accurate it mite be in general, but in the end it doesn’t matter if it can be prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 06:26 PM
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Kind of I guess.. but as I said, he’s at least open to debating his beliefs in good faith.. can’t say that for most ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:41 PM
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The difference is is he willing to (if the other is acting in good faith) actually discuss and test his strong held beliefs. He proved that by having debates with* many ppl over and over. So even if he’s got strong beliefs that are wrong he’s at least somewhat (id argue to a pretty high degree) willing to openly and publicly challenge them. I don’t like everything about him and think he gets alot wrong, but he gets alot right and testing himself and his ideas is one of them (even if not perfectl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:37 PM
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The TRPs info helped me make sense of womens actions that nothing else could, and helped me get and keep gf’s that used to be out of my league (cause I screwed it up by using my old tactics that disney and society taught me and drilled into my head) Ive read many men say the same thing. Sure, its anecdotal, but until they do a study on it (and im not even sure what kind they could do to prove or disprove what you’re saying) you’re claiming it is BS is just as much an hypothesis as the opposite. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:32 PM
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Imagine calling someone who is anti-ideologies ideological.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:28 PM
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‘ A few good men ‘
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:46 PM
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I mean, I guess thats pretty fair. Maybe I do underestimate other guys creep levels and the amount and the accumulative effect
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:22 AM
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Haha fair enough, well said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:19 AM
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Are you asking me, or telling me how I feel? Sounds like you’re telling me. So question... do you think it's hypocrisy for men to slut-shame women for dressing provocatively or having a few (more than 1) sexual partners in her past, for men to make it clear sexually expressive or "promiscuous" women are fine for a short time but not a long time, for married men to slut-shame Instagram "that's" or Only Fans creators and bad mouth these women to their loyal, tired but homely wives who they've forg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:17 AM
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I wouldn’t. Id say theyre very connected
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:03 AM
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Fair enough, and I get where you’re coming from. See, internet arguers can see each-others perspectives ! But wait, why wouldn’t you admit that to friends and family? Ahhhhhh theres the main problem and was literally my main point! Theres an underlying culture that would fry u if u dared go against the group think, even if you used logic or even just questioned it deeply without even making a strong assertion. Thats the main part of this that gets me.. not individuals hypocrisy or clothing or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:01 AM
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I really haven’t, hearing women complain about it in person to me (ab others) and online. But also a few dirty looks when caught looking at an ass or literally just saying hi.. But then other women love it and ive had great success.. but just noticing its getting worse and worse and less playful and more ridiculous (Also, it behooves me does it? https://m.facebook.com/lovedarrenfleet/videos/1295414580583238/)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:55 PM
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Again, the problem is women keep moving the Goal post. Approaching and asking to go out wasn’t a big Deal 20-30 years, but now all Of a sudden its lumped in with ‘making a dickhead out of yourself’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:50 PM
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That video sums up alot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:47 PM
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Im sorry but Your examples were literally still technically objects of beauty, just less crass ... eyes and hair. So even you trying to explain it couldn’t help but objectify
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:40 PM
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1- false equivalency, its not the same thing as grabbing your own ass vs someone else Grabbing it. Its just not a correct comparison 2-not asking for praise 2- im not talking ab having big tits and ass, im talking about clearly posing in super sexy positions or with revealing clothes etc.. But yes you’re right its subjective, so why is there such an agreed upon narrative that women can dress however they want but men can’t say or look at them how they want (barring actual bile shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:31 PM
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Yeah maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:27 PM
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Some fair points here. (Except the power Balance comment, not everything in life is a power struggle just cause feminist and inter-sectionalists want to see it that way.. saying theres a power balance bc he saw your photo online is a bit of a stretch) But you should try to see the approaching from Men’s perspective. If we waited for Women to make the first move the population would decline drastically, so we are expected to push through the awkward first approach... except not if she’s not inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:17 PM
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Fair enough. Thats what im kinda getting at, its a fine line., but even if a man says that it automatically becomes ‘women can do WHATEVER they want, get over It’ but men are supposed to not react? As for 15y/o yeah any guy who said that in my presence wouldn’t be my friend any longer. And yeah, for adults, theres shorts and then theres booty shorts, theres a nice top and then theres a top that shows a lot and can be plausibly denied as ‘whattt, its just hot outside tee-hee’ like come on. As you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:08 PM
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They get looked at and sexualized too.. have you Lived on planet earth? Just not as much, but still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:59 PM
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What do u define as sexual harassment? Thats the real question in all this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:59 PM
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Great argument, really like how you articulated your points/s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:58 PM
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Haha yep, when the drink becomes the thirst itself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:57 PM
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Haha yes, id agree that’d be a problem. But ‘what is the context’ is precisely right, but im saying the context barely matters any more and all that matters is if she likes you or not.. and if she doesn’t, its creepy. You say we never give context but thats because women keep moving the goalpost, so how can we?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:56 PM
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Yeah exactly. And agreed yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:53 PM
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Thanks what wise insight, so never blame the woman at all right? Men= Always bad, Women= always good (and also are autonomous independent women for the good stuff, but for any bad stuff, all if a sudden she’s got no agency and can’t be blamed. Gotchya) /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:52 PM
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Right yes, for sure. Altho to be fair, women don’t kill men as much when they reject them, so I kinda get it its a bit different. But thats the extreme, in general yes you’re right, they sexualize as well as objectify men as safety providers and resource providers like crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:36 PM
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Agreed. Thats why im saying im tryin my darndest not too. And ya, individual hypocrisy is one thing, but when it gets sanctioned by the majority then it becomes a serious problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:35 PM
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Fair. But I never said it should be kept private by all (Im not a fan of those countries in their modern form) Im saying if you don’t want the attention, keep it private.. and if you do want the attention, be public, but be understanding and lighthearted about the attention you get, since you’re intentionally doing things you know will bring it (minus the truly vile comments or harassment.. but flirting and looking and approaching should be taken with grace in stride if youve dolled yourself up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:27 PM
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Hmm yeah, id say its a mix of both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:24 PM
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Sorry I don’t get the question
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:23 PM
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No you missed the point.. he doesn’t owe them to actually take them shopping, and I never said ‘she must fuck all men cause she’s acting sexy!’ I said she shouldn’t get mad and call him a creep, and the rapper shouldn’t get mad and call her a gold digger. Pretty Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:23 PM
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Precisely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:21 PM
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Great indepth response thanksss /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:21 PM
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Haha exactly. Perfect summary
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:20 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:20 PM
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You’re just repeating the same groupthink thats been enshrined for decades. Of course they shouldn’t be raped. Even if she was literally getting consensually gang banged on a sidewalk and a 12th guy came in and she didn’t like him and said no, then of course he should fuck off and leave. Theres never an excuse for that vile shit. But thats the extreme example that everyone loves to put up as the strawman. Thats not what I said in the slightest, and thats not what it leads too (unless you’re a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:19 PM
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Yes exactly! I agree 100%.. men who flash money and get mad at golddiggers are just as bad, like what do you expect? The difference is we don’t have an entire movement and society telling those men that theyre in the right and its the women who are in the wrong ONLY and that he can flash his money all he wants but expect no negative side effects.. No, we call that guy an idiot if he ever said that. But when females say the same thing about revealing themselves we’re supposed to agree with obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:15 PM
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The fact that so many women (and men) in the comments are strawmanning what I said and making it super extreme ( like the dozen comments saying “so what, you’re entitled to just grab titties whenever you see them! You’re entitled to screw every woman u see, then!?!l”).. Its hilariously proving my points (and also making me question many of your reading skills) -im pointing out how many women take the slightest but of flirting as being sexually harassed, and your response is “no thats not true, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:06 PM
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“Look what she does, not what she says” sums it up pretty perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:51 PM
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Yep. Except *Villainize the men they don’t like, at that moment, on their whim
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:48 PM
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Why is it you see blatant misogyny everywhere instead of admitting that women can often be hypocrites and wrong too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:45 PM
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I already wrote it in the OP.. like what Dont you get? You wrote So we should all wear burkas to not be seen as sexual objects? Your saying no matter what a woman wears or does it's a mans right to sexualised her? Which means you clearly didn’t read my post properly where I said If a woman doesn’t sexualize herself at all in her photos or in general in the slightest, then if she’s also a little annoyed or upset when men sexualize or objectify her, then I 100% understand and agree and sympathize …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:44 PM
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You clearly are out of the loop then with how women are acting today. Are you 35 or older? Just google ‘is asking out for a drink a form of harassment’ and see what comes up (studies included)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:22 PM
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First of all the idea that you should be entitled to sexualise someone because they sexualise themselves is very weird. That’s like demanding to use the n-word on someone because they use it or to harm someone because they self harm. You’re not entitled to treat someone the way you want just because they treat themselves a certain way. Its not very weird. And your using false equivalencies The N-Word, ive heard many black ppl themselves literally say exactly that ‘if you use it to define yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:20 PM
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My whole point is to teach women/girls to stop treating themselves as sex objects and then maybe men will take it more seriously. As my one example in the OP said, if they don’t then, then yes men are the creeps and POS... but as long as women objectify themselves its unfair to ask men not to. Its basic hypocrisy, whats so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:01 PM
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Your saying no matter what a woman wears or does it's a mans right to sexualised her? Who the hell said that!? What are you talking about!? I literally said the opposite. Pls work on your reading skills and don’t assume you know my position (just bc someone disagrees with your extreme view DOESNT mean they automatically must agree with the opposite extreme) especially when I wrote it clear as day!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:59 PM
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Who said that? Did you actually read my examples and the different women I was talking about? As always, just take the extreme and argue against that strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:56 PM
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Holy shit pls read the post carefully, I didn’t say to disrespect her. The fact you said everything you just said proves My point that ppl stick up for the hypocrisy (usually by making it the worst case scenario and saying ‘ya thats wrong!’)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:54 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:52 PM
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No he’s got a point. Unless your rich or living in the woods alone, its going to affect you and yours. You can play this lofty game of ‘im above it all’ (which i legit relate to, i.e. i kinda do want to move to the woods and leave society) but if you’re a normal person that wants to have friends and a family and kids, its going to matter a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:19 PM
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Yeah thats kinda true. But thats just it, if they want to be treated equal then their careless throwing around the words ‘creeps’ and ‘weirdos’ should be treated with the same disdain as if men casually called every girl showing some thigh ‘a stupid disgusting whore’ Are we equal or not? Not to mention if they want their accusations to be taken seriously when a mans actions are super bad and real, then you shouldn’t cry wolf with calling everyone and everything creepy and sexist. But yes in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:14 PM
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I didn’t read that now removed comment, but no, the problem isn’t women saying ‘hey don’t objectify me’ , the problem is women constantly objectifying themselves and then not just telling men not to (which is yes, still hypocritical) but is trying to make them feel like shameful pigs and and super creeps for even mildly hitting on them (if theyre unattractive to them)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:09 PM
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Fair. Its more the online stuff that gets me. Ive just seen so many ‘normal’ women showing super revealing photos (that I ain’t mad at) but then complaining about men all the time and how theyre creeps. Of course showing some skin doesn’t mean you should be bombarded with terrible comments.. but expect to get hit on is all im Saying, and don’t call them potential rapists for appropriately hitting on you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:06 PM
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Are u ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:15 AM
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If ppl should be able to wear whatever they want then people should also be able to stare as long as they want. Isn’t that an equal freedom? What about say what they want? Also as much freedom as wearing or no? Kinda but not really? Its tricky.. Tbh I don’t care what they wear and probably like it more when they wear more revealing clothes.. im just upset when im called a creep for staring or talking to them (not that it happens often) And actually talk to a 6ft 4 super ripped and attractive guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:15 AM
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Consider... you’re brainwashed by the hivemind and group-think... Consider, you can’t have an original or challenging thought of your own unless against the pre-hive-approved targets (males, whites, the rich etc..’) Consider.,, youre just regurgitating buzzwords that sound good skirt around the obvious hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:08 AM
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Exactly. My point is that if you’re going to be super selective like that and show it to everyone, at least have the courtesy to not fuckin accuse the ugly guys of being pieces of shit and creeps. Like Jesus (unless they’re being super inappropriate of course) The problem is they really seem to feel that an ugly guy even politely and nicely hitting on them is creepy, thats geniunely how they feel and put their feelings over the clear logic of the double standard. I feel disgusted when a super ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:06 AM
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Yeah well I was trying to say it a bit nicer than that lol but the hypocrisy really does seem to be on an industrial scale
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:01 AM
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Yep, hard to argue with that assessment (tho im open to hearing someone try)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:00 AM
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Probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:59 AM
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Where on earth did I say that? You ppl are so ridiculous, just making every point that isn’t inline with your group think into the opposite extreme.. “Don’t agree with my absurdity!? Well then sir, you’re obviously a rape apologist!” Come On
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:58 AM
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The best part is not reading my Post properly and making a strawman to argue against. Learn to read and understand nuance And to a previous comment: if a man were online (like a lot of rappers) flaunting his stacks of money, and then also walking in the street with tonnes of jewelry on and some girls came up and nicely said ‘omg you a baller, take me shopping baby!’ And then he proceeded to berate her and get mad and call her a gold digging bitch, then Id say that guy is as bad as the women in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:57 AM
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Did you read the bottom of my original post(this version)?? I wrote it specifically to reply to this same comment you wrote when I posted the first version And to a previous comment: if a man were online (like a lot of rappers) flaunting his stacks of money, and then also walking in the street with tonnes of jewelry on and some girls came up and nicely said ‘omg you a baller, take me shopping baby!’ And then he proceeded to berate her and get mad and call her a gold digging bitch, then Id say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:56 AM
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This person gets it ^
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:50 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:48 AM
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1stly if the guy is muscular, yes they do. 2ndly username doesn’t check out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:46 AM
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I never said saying degrading stuff is ok ever. Its not. But yeah sexual innuendo that could be taken as fun flirting (if they like you) why wouldn’t that be ok to a guy flaunting his stuff? He’s putting himself out there as a partially sexual object, so what the hell? And btw, tonnnneeesss of women sexually objectify men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:44 AM
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Its really not that simple when you live in a society where ppl meet my being approached and flirted with and even now meeting by comments first said on their posts. How are Men supposed to know who they want to be sexual with, especially when women rarely make the first move? Well, only one way, flirt with her or approach her or comment... but even a slightly suggestive comment (from an undesirable) or approach is made out to be so terrible. Just look at that stupid gillette commercial where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:40 AM
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Well ive never once hit on a girl on instagram, but no, if a guy did, when all her photos are super sexualized, that is Not creepy and inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:35 AM
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Some good points. I would just say this statement.. A confident women doesn’t sexualize herself. It’s not her fault that what she chooses to wear etc is seen through a mans eyes that way. That just seems like classic man-blaming (tho the rest of your post was so tempered and balanced) And also, it kinda is her ‘fault’. If, like you said, you’re grown now and know what ppl react certain ways to certain types of clothes, then yeah, it is your fault if you wear more revealing clothes but don’t want…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:32 AM
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Yes I see the difference between my original example and a sundress (I think youre right its a bit more clear in person).. but I think you are seeing way to clear of a line between attractiveness and sexy.. theyre very similar and extremely related. But the more I think about it the more I believe its the online photos of super sexually suggestive poses ,but plausible deniability bc theyre not showing too much skin, ..that is my main point. Its a game and they know it, like ‘how much sexiness ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:26 AM
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Interesting point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:16 AM
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Yeah but would men be shaming and accusing the uglier women as much as women do to undesirable men now? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:13 AM
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Ok well take the extreme of both cases, or the mild end of both cases (cause we’re mixing and matching here) If a man tells a woman that he feels shes a user and a gold digger everytime she suggests to go get coffee, is that man now responsible for her feelings if she starts to feel some type of ways about it? Or if a woman is in a relationship with a meeker man and keeps calling him a loser and good for nothing piece of shit, is she responsible? Again I think its a mix. All im saying is don’t f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:10 AM
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Ok so what about all the crying about men mentally and verbally shaming or abusing women.. are you gonna say the same thing to them? ‘Noone can make You feel a certain way’! Tho I agree somewhat with your point (that most the onus is on the receiver a lá Viktor Frankl and attitude, but id say its a mix of both the giver and receiver) you must apply it equally to everyone, or not at all. So if you’re saying it to me feeling bad about how women treat men, say the same to them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:04 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:00 AM
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We have a confusing cultural narrative where "sexualized" and "attractive" can be mixed up as the same thing (they absolutely aren't). You bring up a good point, altho youre “absolutely not” comment kills it.. bc its super tricky and subtle and mixed up with political correctness that its just a big jumble... but saying its “absolutely not the same” makes it sound like its simple AND you got it all figured out and can show us exact diagrams on the difference. Well if thats the case, im all ears,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:30 AM
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You bring up some good points and questions. Specifically with the beach id say you’re right, both are inappropriate. Its when every other photo is an ass shot, or when she’s ‘super into yoga’ but every photo happens to be her ass bent and stuck in the air and conveniently barely any other poses, but then gets mad when guys say she’s ‘hot’ or something. Your right its a slippery slope and tricky lines.. but its just so obvious many of these girls are begging for attention with sexually selective…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:20 AM
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BS. Its not as simple as that. You dress modestly and get less rude creeps but also less attention from guys you like , and men aren’t as quick to jump for you in general and you lose some of your special status. So you try to wear more sexy or revealing clothes and you get more attention from guys you like and better treatment again, but you also get more attention from guys you don’t like.. so to compensate for this paradox you shame and guilt the men who you don’t find attractive and accuse t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:11 AM
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thats an extreme example. Its more just getting really annoyed and acting like you’re the biggest weirdo just for approaching them or talking to them when yes theyre wearing super revealing clothes. Its just this constant making (most) men feel like theyre harrasers and creeps for even looking when theyve got a pound of make up on and booty shorts the size of swim wear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:00 AM
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First of all thats not what im talking about, its an example of the larger trend. Ask men and youll see a majority of them have definitely had to deal with this issue in more subtle ways that are still real and not just with online thots Secondly, most attractive females these days have sexualizing photos online.. so by your definition they are all kinda ‘online thots’ Thirdly, thats not how it goes with all ppl. I don’t think you’re ’normal’
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:34 PM
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The Borg eventually became individuals thanks to Jordies friendship. But all TNG references aside haha. How it incredibly hard to understand that I said ‘a lot’ and not all, and that I also gave 2 different examples of types of women that don’t do that? Im just saying a lot, maybe even most, attractive women do it in western society But more to the point is that society accepts and even regurgitates the nonsense! So when women say ‘most men are pigs that sexually harass women!’ Its like well, 1-…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:28 PM
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Well said, and fully agree with most of that. But wheres the hypocrisy in men like this (thats truly similar and also as widely accepted by others and society and even repeated by non-men sticking up for men?)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:21 PM
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Fair enough and thats for sure true. But if you read my first example in the original post I specifically addressed that If a woman doesn’t sexualize herself at all in her photos or in general in the slightest, then if she’s also a little annoyed or upset when men sexualize or objectify her, then I 100% understand and agree and sympathize with her and might even break the cardinal rule (though shalt not simp) and white knight a bit if I see her getting annoyed by some guy who’s not catching the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:18 PM
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What? Because its A LOT of them, and it makes It impossible to interact with ppl when they make up the rules as they go
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:14 PM
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Nope, not whats happening at all. Try again (maybe with some actual in-depth explanations this time) It was happening pre-internet too in the streets (and obviously still is today) but its just most obvious and exploded even more on insta and online, so I used the most obvious example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:58 PM
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Haha good point! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:46 PM
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I said ‘alot’ not all. And on top of the original I also gave an extra 2 examples after on women who don’t do that. And also, instagram is just the most obvious example so I used that, but it happens all the time in real life etc.. So yeah, your comment is off and didn’t really adress the point at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:46 PM
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Big Ed from 90dayfiance cheated on his hot wife, so yeah, even the ugliest ppl will cheat. Thats anecdotal tho (not on average, not sure there) big ed
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