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If you think false accusations are just a problem of "non hetero feminist women" you are stupid.
/r/MensRights26/01/25 09:54 PM
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"the most dangerous people are women, if you let them be" - Manson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57hQcoiqppE Yeah, he sounds like such a feminist. What a hypocrite! LMAO
/r/MensRights26/01/25 08:04 PM
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There was no "throwing him under the bus". They mutually agreed to for him to leave the band. Twiggy probably wanted out of the spotlight after that. https://web.archive.org/web/20230126222150/https://www.justicefortwiggyramirez.com/marilyn-manson He was never a pro metoo or "believe all women" guy. https://www.nme.com/news/marilyn-manson-sexual-harassment-police-media-2185562
/r/MensRights26/01/25 07:37 PM
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So all I got from this is that you personally don't like him. Cool story, I don't care tho.
/r/MensRights26/01/25 03:27 AM
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How so? He is a victim of false accusations from multiple women and a media biased against him. If he's not a poster figure for men's rights I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 09:45 PM
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He's actually been doing tours and recently made a bestselling album with a new record label. He seems to be regaining at least some of his career back.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 10:15 AM
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You can laugh at male feminists being put in the situation they created and point out the facts about the accusations being BS at the same time.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 05:34 AM
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The relevance of this review here is that much of Marilyn Manson's latest album is dealing with what is clearly very traumatic experiences with false accusations against him. I found the album very moving.
/r/MensRights25/11/24 09:05 PM
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Well yeah, less selective men spread their genes more than more selective men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:45 PM
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Well yeah, less selective men spread their genes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:45 PM
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First of all, men are much less shallow about looks than women. This is proven: https://incels.wiki/w/Juggernaut_law Bringing up Pearl is very silly. She gets called ugly because she makes feminist and trad men and women mad and so they call her ugly because they're mad at her. Personally I think she's fairly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:34 AM

Same with Marilyn Manson (the evidence against him is also damning) LOL It's the complete opposite. The allegations against him are completely absurd and unbelievable. Evan Rachel Wood is a criminal who forged an FBI letter. Manson is like the worst example you could have used, since he is obviously innocent. https://www.marilynmansonuncanceled.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:29 AM
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Feminists be like: "this isn't as bad as rape" Non feminists be like: "this and rape are equally bad"
/r/MensRights18/05/23 04:42 AM
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LOL It's still more work than women do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:42 PM
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This list is more work than the average female "work". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:40 PM
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It's more work than your average female "work". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:39 PM
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It doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:38 PM
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Btw, this is the woman they are supporting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz9CVFKRK6s She's not just a domestic abuser, she was a particularly brutal one and almost killed her victim.
/r/MensRights13/04/23 08:29 PM
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Show that it's not true, as the video did.
/r/MensRights26/03/23 10:53 PM
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I have no interest in "blaming" women for environmental problems. However, if men are going to be blamed for environmental problems by feminists, it's only fair to push back on that.
/r/MensRights26/03/23 09:23 PM
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Important updates on the situation with Ashley Smithline and other things.
/r/MensRights15/03/23 10:53 PM
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All they have so far is one Instagram post in 2019 and an audio (that we haven't heard). King denies any claim that he reached out to Smithline. This is someone who has faked an FBI letter. They have also been caught faking messages before as well. https://www.marilynmansonuncanceled.com/2022/03/evan-rachel-woods-ridiculous.html The accusers have acted so dishonestly that it is on them to prove that what they have provided is not faked or hacked. If they can prove with metadata that what they ha…
/r/MensRights04/03/23 09:58 PM
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This is not everyone's experience. Yes, some people don't like him. And if someone doesn't like someone, of course they are going to say things about him being an asshole. Others however have said he is a generally nice person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Nk4WkDGn8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXOzFOWTDk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Frlp7h584 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t-1wygFTWs Now maybe he is an asshole to some people or maybe the people calling him an asshole have a grud…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 07:31 AM
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Bruh just read the whole thing. It's not that long.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 10:29 PM
1

Women cheating is clearly worse, because men this could result in the man paying for a child that is not their or through brute force of the law. There's no danger for that with women. Abuse is indeed a gendered concept, as women commit most of it. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:19 AM
3

And if the man is drunk, that's just evidence he was in a drunken rage and committed a rape because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:13 AM
3

I completely agree. However, I will still never have sex with a woman who has had even a little bit of alcohol, not for moral reasons, but because it will be used against you if you ever get falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:11 AM
1

Average "sexual harassment" complaint.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:55 PM
7

Reminder, this is what the average feminist is talking about when they say men are "sexually harassing" them. Never believe them.
/r/MensRights23/01/23 03:36 AM
-1

It's the necessary conclusion of the logic you are using. If "not knowing someone is guilty" is the only thing that needs to be taken into account, then the logical conclusion is to bring back vigilante killings as long as we don't know if they're guilty.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 03:14 AM
-1

OK lets bring back vigilante killings because we don't know they're guilty then. Anything else won't be helpful to the men's cause.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 03:11 AM
-1

That's like saying "if someone gets killed in a vigilante attack, it's no big deal because we don't know if they're guilty". The whole point is that the general approach people are taking here will have bad results in general. His guilt or innocence is irrelevant. How many times do I have to say that before it stops going over your head?
/r/MensRights21/01/23 02:47 AM
1

Like I said in my original comment, the point stands regardless of guilt or innocence. You have totally missed the point.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 02:01 AM
0

I think this post is relevant because too many people are jumping to conclusions that this guy is guilty with not good enough reasons, basing their conclusions on what the wife said to other people. Fact is, Julie Jensen was mentally deranged and said demonstrably false things. So just taking her word at what she said to other people is kind of crazy. Even if he is guilty, the jumping to conclusions many people are doing is completely unwarranted.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 01:23 AM
1

I get along with women just fine. Do you deep down see women as equals? Depends what you mean. If you're asking "are men and women the same on average", that wouldn't be true. If you're asking "are men and women objectively equal". I don't know what it would mean to be "objectively equal". Whether something is "equal" based on values we hold is necessarily subjective. If I don't value anything, not even my own life, then everything would necessarily have an equal value, that value being zero. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:43 AM
1

No it's 100% cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:11 AM
1

Even with Depp, there were still a bunch of women against him and a bunch of feminist organizations which backed Heard.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 11:27 PM
2

Glad to see Cosby doing this after all the false accusations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJvijmbWOvk
/r/MensRights28/12/22 10:24 PM
0

I don't care what Trent thought about Manson. This is petty irrelevant nonsense.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:50 PM
1

So he tied them down every part of their body but their hands? LOL Good one.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 09:17 PM
0

no u
/r/MensRights27/12/22 09:01 PM
1

asscheeks. Chestmuscles. Shoulders. What does this have to do with being tied up??? You are literally just latching on to anything even if it doesn't make sense. LOL
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:59 PM
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It is a fact. You are just coming up with implausible scenarios to save your theory.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:38 PM
0

It's pretty silly to take art for public consumption as a super serious fact.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:37 PM
0

It shows their stories are scientifically absurd.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:34 PM
1

You may want to read about the "Law of Uncertainty" and how science doesn't prove things will always occur. As there are ALWAYS outliers. Yeah, probability is what is important here. And the scenarios these women described are highly improbable.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:33 PM
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manson was doing really "good" work with his precision when tying, and so on See, this shows you have no idea what you are talking about. They aren't claiming a BDSM session gone wrong. They are talking about him assaulting and raping them from the start. This can work both ways, making you more ridged and therefor easier to hurt, but also making certian areas more protected. Think larger muscles, areas with alot more circulations (like the body) and so on. Yeah, you just made that up. Skinny wo…
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:31 PM
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I posted the video because of the info in it. I don't give a damn who are what these people in the video are. The scientific facts say that the women's stories are absurd, period.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:52 AM
0

OK science denier
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:33 AM
1

OK cool opinion
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:32 AM
0

Is this some kind of bit you're doing? I don't get it.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:31 AM
1

I thought you were talking about more recent comments Trent has made regarding Manson about how much he doesn't like him anymore. I don't care that Manson sang a song with him called starfuckers.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:27 AM
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Trent has a grudge against Manson, not really someone whose word I'd take on anything regarding him. Meanwhile Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore have been caught orchestrating a hoax against Manson with a fake FBI letter.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:24 AM
1

Pretty sure they haven't been friends for a long time. But I don't really care what songs Trent wrote regardless.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:19 AM
1

A "BDSM expert" would surely know the difference between acceptable and non-acceptable bondage. Although I don't really care what she's an expert in. The facts are the facts.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:13 AM
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She never said she was just a submissive and I don't recall her saying how often it happened to her. Regardless, BDSM isn't comparable to someone assaulting and tying you up.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:49 AM
1

Well there are others who say he's nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXOzFOWTDk I guess different people have different opinions. You not liking him is completely irrelevant. Evidence shows the accusations are a hoax.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:40 AM
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Liar. Temperature and body fat predicts it. Tying up a thin woman with no concern for their safety in a cold room absolutely predicts it. And it can likewise be prevented by tying it in a way that doesn't constrict.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:38 AM
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Not as funny as you thinking tying up thin women in a cold room won't cause nerve damage.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:32 AM
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What contradiction? And I don't care what is or isn't used in court. This is iron clad scientific evidence they are lying (on top of the fake FBI letter, the other lies they've been caught in and whatnot).
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:29 AM
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LOL You are full of crap. I don't believe for one second that these thin women are being bound in a non-professional manner in a cold room that does not result in nerve damage, or it does and they wouldn't talk about it, but talk about everything else. You are just stacking too many absurdities on top of this to make any of this believable.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 10:21 AM
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Basically, science refutes the accusations against Marilyn Manson.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 11:58 PM
1

Nope, the relevance is the statements themselves. If jokes are supposed to be taken seriously to the point where it's "proof", then there is no reason accusations should make any difference. For example, if someone blood is at the crime scene proving they did the murder, there is no need for other "accusations" to validate that. Likewise, if rape and murder jokes are sufficient to prove you did those things, there is no need to add accusations on top of it, you already caught them. These jokes M…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:04 AM
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Then there is the gaslighting as well.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 11:16 PM
1

The idea that women don't feel entitlement to sex is laughable. Women are more likely to feel entitlement towards men in general than vice versa, including sex and wealth. And if we are just looking at wealth (which men in general definitely feel less entitled to than sex) then I would much rather someone feel like they are "entitled" to my body just for sex than for hard labor. The latter is much more of a burden than sex that many women feel entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:58 AM
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All this shows is that people have a bias towards women. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343253834_The_Myth_of_Pervasive_Misogyny Seeing how women actually perform in the real world, women are the ones most likely to run companies into the ground as demonstrated in the video I provided earlier. And even if everything said there were completely true, the most likely explanation for it would be that men are more likely to take risks, therefore more likely to fail as well as succeed. Where…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:44 AM
1

LOL You whine about men supposedly devaluing women and then devalue when you've barged in here with your devaluation of men based off of complete nonsense. I know you're jealous that men have outperformed women in almost every way that matters. Keep coping, woman.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 03:28 AM
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You say all this nonsense as you sit in a civilization made by men. Go forage in the forest like a savage and get out of male built civilization. I know you won't though. It's in your nature to be an ungrateful brat.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:08 AM
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How dare you spread falsehoods about men like that. Men give you luxury and civilization and in return all they get is scorn. You absolute ingrate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw
/r/MensRights07/12/22 10:24 PM
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False. Women are not complicated at all. It's just that men don't want to see women as they are, so they come up with theories about how "complex" they are. It's bunk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:39 PM
1

"Child support is totally just about the child trust me bro."
/r/MensRights30/11/22 09:02 PM
2

Based OP. Hope he's doing alright now.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 10:21 PM
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Like I've said before, it's because men love women more than the reverse. You can tell this from the fact that it takes longer and harder for men to get over a break up, divorce, or partner dying than the reverse. Men also go out of their way to write romantic poems and the like for women. Building civilization is partly motivated by impressing women as well. Therefore men will put effort into impressing women. Women don't have the same love, and hardly put in anything. Even if something seems l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:06 AM
1

Quote what? The article? Just read it yourself. LOL
/r/MensRights20/11/22 12:58 AM
1

LOL Now you are lying. The article completely debunks the accusers.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 12:10 AM
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The information debunking the Penn State hoax has been provided to you. I don't care if you're too lazy to look at it.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 03:56 AM
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https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/trial-by-therapy-jerry-sandusky-case-revisited/
/r/MensRights18/11/22 08:28 PM
1

Yep. Listen to the podcast.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 03:40 AM
2

Yeah, he's innocent.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 02:17 AM
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In the video where she's hitting him, he pushed her face away, therefore it's mutual abuse. There are pictures of injuries on her after he fought back, therefore mutual abuse. If it's the other way around, it's reactive violence on the part of the woman and totally understandable.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 11:30 PM
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Give me a break. This isn't about "harassment". They are obviously supporting her. Why haven't these feminist organizations come out to oppose the harassment of Depp? Or men like Cosby and Weinstein for that matter? This is a declaration of support for her, period.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:59 AM
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Nope women are more likely to commit domestic violence against men. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/
/r/MensRights16/11/22 06:07 AM
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ur mom says I have lots of experience with it
/r/MensRights08/11/22 10:06 PM
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simps and feminists: "domestic violence against men isn't as big of a deal because men are stronger and can easily fight back" also simps and feminists:
/r/MensRights08/11/22 09:57 PM
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Jesus, the media is really going to be running with this looney woman's claims, huh?
/r/MensRights08/11/22 09:54 PM
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Uh, no. She allows him to ejaculate inside her. She knows he will ejaculate inside her unless she says something beforehand. It doesn't matter if she "knows when he will ejaculate". That is completely irrelevant. She knows sex can lead to ejaculation inside her. So it's completely on her as well.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 09:53 PM
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None of the others gave a polygraph as far as I know. When the women in the Kanin study were given a polygraph, 41% of them cracked and admitted to lying.
/r/MensRights02/11/22 12:05 AM
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Yeah I'm aware of other studies. None of them used polygraphs as far as I'm aware. Saying there are problems with Kanin's study doesn't cut it. None of the other studies are without problems and don't use polygraphs as far as I know.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 11:57 PM
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Because the media is anti-male. Also, it's not necessarily lying, their anti-male bigotry makes them believe things that aren't true. Taken literally, your statement that it happens "all the time" is false. If I were to be charitable I would assume you mean something else, but it is not clear what you are saying.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:54 AM
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No rape happened here tho. How can I be an apologist for something that never happened?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:32 AM
2

"The feminist media says so therefore it's true." LOL
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:25 AM
2

Uh, the video I posted literally says that.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:02 AM
2

That's not evidence.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:55 AM
2

what evidence
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:48 AM
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Watch the video I posted.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:43 AM
1

no he didn't
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:32 AM
2

LOL No that is not rape at all. If anything, the women are the ones doing the exploiting, but I don't want to lock them up for that though.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:06 AM
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Even if quid pro quo sex is bad, it's no where near as bad as rape, which is what he is accused of. This "oh he's a bad guy anyway for doing something I don't like" is just a dumb red herring.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:32 AM
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Well this specific post was not defending Weinstein. However, I personally do defend Weisntein. There is no good evidence he raped anyone. I don't base who I defend on who is popular, the whole point is to defend men's rights even when the whole of society is against it. If we just do whatever the mainstream wants so we don't get seen as a "joke" then we might as well just become feminists and promote female supremacy. That's how ridiculous you sound.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:45 AM
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The problem of multiple false accusers is something that MRAs should spend more focus on. Many people accept "ok maybe one person is lying, but multiple people is just impossible". Although no one ever gives any argument as to why multiple false accusers is impossible, it's just asserted. But we know it happens. https://ycitynews.com/22478/news/young-man-cleared-of-multiple-false-rape-accusations-at-trials-this-summer/ Even if multiple accusers does "lessen the likelihood" of them all being fals…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 09:49 PM
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Unfortunately, this author still buys into the myth of "good feminism" in the past that went wrong.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 09:32 PM
3

When I criticize radical feminism, I'm talking about the mainstream, corporate-sponsored, liberal identity politics version, not the important and revolutionary feminist theory of Emma Goldman and other anticapitalist feminists. All feminism is bad; corporate, capitalist, socialist and revolutionary kind alike. The Marxist E. Belfort Bax destroyed feminism over a century ago. https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/index.htm
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:24 AM
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Feminists define rape as "using pressure to have sex" and then use pressure to get men to have sex. Of course, they use this definition purely to use as a weapon against men, as proven by the fact that they don't apply it to themselves.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 12:22 AM
1

I got a lot of my info on feminism from a left wing Marxist. https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/index.htm
/r/MensRights21/10/22 10:20 PM
1

no???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:18 PM
1

Cheating happens. So what? That has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:22 AM
2

No the problem is women taking men's money. Yes, some men laugh in the rare instance a woman pays the man, but that's because it's rare and hardly ever happens and it's funny seeing the norm get reversed on a rare occasion. But men are not arguing for the right to screw women over. You're just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:56 AM
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This is the same woman who invented the term "mansplaining" because her ego couldn't handle someone being more interested in her ideas than her (in a story that she most likely made up). https://youtu.be/j9Yn3i-DMKw?t=59m50s
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:34 PM
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I saw her twitter thread arguing this many years ago. I didn't know she wrote a whole ass book about it now. LMAO Her argument is basically: Men's ejaculation causes women to get pregnant, not women's ejaculation. Therefore all pregnancies are men's fault. The problem with this line of reasoning is that women also choose to allow men to ejaculate inside them, therefore women are also responsible. Twitter thread and book debunked.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:22 PM
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no u
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:10 PM
1

No, only 30% of the countries provided information.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:10 PM
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Surprisingly, in 30% of the countries which provided information on the gender of traffickers, women make up the largest proportion of traffickers. In some parts of the world, women trafficking women is the norm. https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human-trafficking/global-report-on-trafficking-in-persons.html This means only 30% of the countries provided info. Your interpretation is incorrect.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:10 AM
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Other women for sure. Yes, right now women commit less crime in general than men, but the existence of the police and military, staffed almost entirely of men, keep the crime rates of both men and women down. If men disappeared, there would be no police and the female crime rate would skyrocket.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:04 AM
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He is a feminist and anti-male. I'm not taking any advice from him. lol
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:56 PM
1

yes
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:54 PM
2

No, only 30% provided information.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:54 PM
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Surprisingly, in 30% of the countries which provided information on the gender of traffickers, women make up the largest proportion of traffickers. In some parts of the world, women trafficking women is the norm. https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human-trafficking/global-report-on-trafficking-in-persons.html You don't have to "trust fox news". But you've provided no source for your claim. Also, "almost two thirds" is very slippery language. For all we know, it could be completely compatible with wh…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:56 AM
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Whether it's true or not, the methods used to get that number also gets similar numbers for men. The likelihood of anyone being a victim of a violent crime in life is around 80% https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/104274.pdf Even if the population that commits crime is small, it is very possible that it will effect a large portion of the population as time goes on. What separates "civilized" and "uncivilized" places is the frequency of violent crime, not how much of the population has experienced …
/r/MensRights19/10/22 04:56 AM
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Well this is the only thing on the sex of traffickers I've found. If you have something better, present it. Until then, this is perfectly valid data. Not to mention that you didn't explain how a recession or "confounding variables" would have an effect on the sex of traffickers. In anything, a recession would mean there are probably more men involved than otherwise.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 03:00 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:27 AM
4

"Daddy's girls" whose fathers overindulge them is a much bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:42 AM
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full study: https://spssi.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/josi.12559
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:56 PM
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I think this is a bad idea. Any admission of crossing any "line" will be seen as an admission of assault and used to destroy him.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:58 AM
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You're fine. Don't worry about it.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:56 AM
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I don't know what kind of consolation you expect here if you actually did commit any kind of assault. However, from what you said here it sounds very vague. What do you mean by "being her she wasn't quite reciprocative after that" and that you were "touchy"? This is all very vague and doesn't mean much to me. Plenty of women have also been "touchy" with no one caring. So far you haven't really given enough info for me to see anything wrong with this.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:48 AM
2

There is a trick with which votaries of Feminism seek to prejudice the public mind against its critics, and that is the “fake” that any man who ventures to criticise the pretensions of Feminism, is actuated by motives of personal rancour against the female sex, owing to real or imaginary wrongs suffered by him at the hands of some member or members of the sex. I suppose it may be possible that there are persons, not precisely microcephalous idiots, who could be made to believe such stuff as this…
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/22 03:45 AM
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It's just women limiting the supply of sex to benefit themselves in the same way a cartel does. It would be silly to say that a cartel "hates itself" when it polices other members of the cartel for its own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:31 AM
1

None of it has to do with "internalized misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:10 AM
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Of course, Biden also has a sexual assault accusation but has not stepped down from his position. Hypocrite.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:02 AM
8

Yet if men avoid women to avoid false accusations, that would be misogyny.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:54 AM
3

Because men love women more than women love men. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:13 AM
2

Why you talking about clothes now???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:26 PM
1

Women are way more lazy than men, so don't come at me with that garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:51 AM
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It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful. Arthur Schopenhauer, On Women It is lucky for the adult woman that men do not consider themselves beautiful, since most men are beautiful. Their smooth bodies, kept trim by har…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:43 AM
2

And then they say men are the ones with unrealistic high beauty standards. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:46 AM
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Woman killing man for rejecting her: https://www.newsweek.com/woman-kills-man-refusing-kiss-her-kissing-his-girlfriend-instead-prosecutors-1639680 Women also beating and raping men: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/ The official stats indicate that women are aggressively trying to kill their male partners mo…
/r/MensRights10/10/22 01:48 AM
2

Well considering that men are more likely to injure women in a reciprocal context that women initiate, it's more likely that more men kill their female partners in self defense than vice versa. https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 If the implication you were going for was that women are more likely to kill in self defense, that is almost certainly not the case.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 01:21 AM
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I believe men almost certainly do commit more crime in general than women for reasons given here: https://avoiceformen.com/domestic-violence-industry/the-reason-men-are-more-violent-than-women/ However, despite this fact, I still think there's good reasons to believe that crime surveys don't catch all of women's crime and that women are probably more likely to commit crime than these surveys indicate. Men are less likely to report domestic violence from women in crime surveys. Studies not design…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:15 AM
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When women accomplish what men have, then maybe I'll start taking their criticisms of "loser men" seriously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw I mean, who are the real losers here? STFU loser women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:47 AM
7

In one sense, Amber Heard and the feminist reaction to it have done us a favor in allowing us to point to a big case that demonstrates the anti-male reality of feminism. There are other examples of feminists defending female abusers and false accusers, but they are never quite famous enough to show to the average person. The Amber Heard case has become famous though, and we can point to that to show the true nature of feminism to everyone.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 10:51 PM
8

It's just the n word for men.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 06:42 AM
4

Men can't get pregnant. Also abortion is being more restricted now. Although the claim that the rate of trans acceptance and abortion legalization has any causal connection is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 10:37 AM
3

No. If men got pregnant, Roe v Wade would have never happened to begin with.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:55 AM
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Nope, I refuted all of your claims. Asserting otherwise doesn't make it true.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:18 AM
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The implication behind paper abortions is the idea that men should have the right to force women to have abortions. no it isn't They're not equivalent at all. I've explained the ways in which they are equivalent and not equivalent which you have not refuted.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:14 AM
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18 years forced labor violates bodily autonomy. It's true that they're not equivalent in one sense, child support is a way worse violation of bodily autonomy. However, they are equivalent in the sense that abortion and paper abortions allow the person to remove responsibility. And as much as some feminists will deny abortion is about that, it's definitely about that.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:45 AM
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Because men love women more than women love men. https://medium.com/@bricklane919/men-love-women-more-than-women-love-men-ec246a4cec78
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:11 PM
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At least this is now getting more media attention. Although the author is still dismissive of what we're saying. This shows these feminists don't really care about equality, they just want women to have control over men and force them to pay for women's decisions. Well she can be dismissive at her own peril. I will not be supporting any abortion legalization effort that does not include men's rights to opt out.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:23 PM
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Men are more likely to face domestic violence from their partners, but that doesn't seem to stop them from trying to date women. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/ So this is all just a BS excuse. https://incels.is/threads/the-reason-women-are-more-selective-than-men-is-not-because-of-pregnancy-worries-safety-etc-the-real-reason-is-because-men-pursue-women.392419/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:53 AM
2

Property entails that you can do whatever you want with it. That was never the case for women.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:48 AM
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Men can also hold sex from women not sure what this means "Beat them gently" Yes, in any society, there is physical force for anyone who does not follow the rules. If you break the rules, you get beaten, this also applies to women. In pre modern cultures especially, since there were no police around, the patriarch had the right to use physical force against their wives if they disobeyed the rules. Men also had physical force against them if they broke the rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:46 AM
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Men have all kinds of obligations towards women in Islam. It's no different than other patriarchal cultures of the past. It's not oppressive toward women.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:03 AM
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???
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:58 AM
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No, the article clearly shows that men have a worse deal in Iran. Also, Islam is not an anti woman religion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzoiyZSYxM
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:55 AM
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???
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:49 AM
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It's obviously talking about women being oppressed relative to men. Stop being dumb.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:48 AM
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I don't care about "looking good" to people who hate men. I will not tell anti-male lies about men in the 3rd world. If you want to lie about 3rd world men so much, there are plenty of places to do that. Whining to me about us "not looking good" because I won't lie for anti-male bigots won't get you anywhere with me.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:23 AM
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Nope just like it's a myth that women were oppressed in the past, it's a myth that women are oppressed in 3rd world countries.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:22 AM
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Women aren't oppressed anywhere in the world. Stay mad about it.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 12:45 AM
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Did you read the rest of the article?
/r/MensRights04/10/22 11:54 PM
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The things mentioned in the article are objective fact. If you don't care about that, expecting me to care about some cloth on women's head is laughable.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 11:29 PM
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If you think that's worse than all the things documented in the article, you are deranged.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 11:21 PM
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Btw, I've seen many feminists on reddit post this and sputter in outrage how anyone can say anything like this, yet never refute the article. lol
/r/MensRights04/10/22 10:49 PM
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Relevant for current events.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 10:15 PM
1

I've actually provided evidence for my position though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:00 PM
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LOL Nice try. Even the ugliest of women have men swarming them to an extent that ugly men would never get. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903 And since women are more likely to commit domestic violence against their partners, it's hard to see how men have these super high personality standards. Many of them don't even have the standard of women not being a psycho toward them. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:34 PM
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First of all, hypergamous means mating with someone with a higher income, more resources, and higher status. Even if everything you said about men were true (it's not) that wouldn't make them "hypergamous". But everything you said is just not true though. Even ugly women get all kinds of men willing to be with them. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903 Sure attractive women probably do better. But ugly men do not have the kind of mating success that ugly women have. I alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:40 AM
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No, you can't use the excuse of "women's oppression" to explain differences in achievement. Women are currently privileged and still lag behind in achievement. So you can't use the oppression argument as an excuse anymore. As a side note, your description of this "oppression" is completely wrong. They were not "not even seen as human" for the majority of history. That is just false. Any basic reading of history will show that women were given all kinds of special considerations. https://archive.…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 12:52 AM
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There's no evidence that men are pretending to be incompetent on some mass scale. If anything, women pretend to be incompetent more than men. If you are of the opinion that men and women are equally competent, then this is only explanation you as a feminist would have going for you to explain the actual competency gap that exists between men and women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw Now I personally don't hold to this belief. I think it's a mixture of pretend and actual incompetence…
/r/MensRights02/10/22 05:22 AM
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Nietzsche had this phenomenon figured out long ago: It is a sign of women's wisdom that they have almost always known how to get themselves supported, like drones in a bee-hive. Let us just consider what this meant originally, and why men do not depend upon women for their support. Of a truth it is because masculine vanity and reverence are greater than feminine wisdom; for women have known how to secure for themselves by their subordination the greatest advantage, in fact, the upper hand. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:32 AM
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No they're the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:26 AM
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I found men are very critical and can be quite demanding compared to what they bring to the table LOL Complete BS. It's the complete reverse. Men bring way more to the table than women are ever willing to. in fact I think most men want to date up and only feel they arent "settling" if they obtain a girl that is way too good for him Again, the other way around. Most men are too good for women and most men do settle because what women bring to the table is completely subpar. But men love women mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:40 PM
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Of course, none of this is actually true. It's the other way around, women expect men to be their emotional tampon and do most of the work for them. And don't bring up "muh housework". Feminist housework studies are BS and the kind of housework women to is very easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ https://ncfm.org/2011/04/news/issues/the-housework-myth/ Although what you are doing has been going on for quite a while. It is a sign of women's wisdom that they have almost always known …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:37 PM
0

Most relationships are not complimentary. The vast majority of relationships involve women taking and men giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:31 PM
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Uh no, giving women a leg up when they don't have the competence is female privilege. Sure, other women can get mad about it for not being the one picked, but to say women are being equally victimized here is absurd. Women as a whole are being privileged and men are being disadvantaged, simple as.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/22 10:27 PM
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The idea that powerful men giving something to women somehow wronged the woman is laughably stupid. This is a female privilege. If anyone is the victim, it's other men who have been left out because of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/22 10:15 PM
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I suspect this is based on the fact that women say they are never satisfied with sex and belittling men for not satisfying them as women do today as well. For example, today when women complain about the "orgasm gap". These are probably tongue and cheek comments and not meant to be taken super seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:57 PM
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Wrong, men are the more romantic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:54 PM
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Well, if you're in this position, you've got to filter out all the worthless dirtbags. This is the case if you don't get swamped as well though. Not getting swamped doesn't mean everyone you come across is great. In fact, men would have to screen out even more if they adopted women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:04 AM
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The jury clearly didn't take this very seriously if it only took them 1 hour to come to a decision. It's one thing to find her not guilty, but they clearly thought the idea of a woman raping a man in itself to be absurd.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 12:37 AM
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It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while , that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cultus who have, of course, taken a brief to prove the wickedness of "horrid man" to the poor downtrodden female. Such disabilities as really obtained were for the most part the necessary outcome of women's position as non-combatants in a rude fighting age, and certainly did not originate, as is generally represented, in any deep- la…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:35 PM
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No I'm not joking. Women have never been oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:43 PM
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Child support is absolutely gendered. Women can opt out and men can't. And Roe v Wade being overturned doesn't change this. They can still go to a state where it's not banned. Men have no escape. Family courts are biased against men. Domestic violence policy is biased against men via feminist policies like VAWA and Duluth model. Genital mutilation of infants is another. And it's not knew. E. Belfort Bax shows that discrimination against men and female privilege go back to at least the late 1800s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:25 AM
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Even if men at the time thought that women were invented by a god to torment men, that doesn't mean women were oppressed. In fact, if you found a reverse story, you would be saying that also would be proof women were oppressed. Also, most of those killed for "spiritual offenses" like heresy and the like were men. Witches were just a small subset of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:15 AM
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simping
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:37 AM
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It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while , that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cultus who have, of course, taken a brief to prove the wickedness of "horrid man" to the poor downtrodden female. Such disabilities as really obtained were for the most part the necessary outcome of women's position as non-combatants in a rude fighting age, and certainly did not originate, as is generally represented, in any deep- la…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:33 AM
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Very true. If anything these are indirect insults toward men. Would this poster say that calling a woman a "pickme" is bad? No, because the supposed insult there is that she likes men to much, which is bad because men are bad. So if she has no problem with the term pickme, she should have no problem with these.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:28 AM
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Man they've never been this obsessed when men didn't have reproductive rights. Very strange.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 02:22 AM
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LOL That's a silly way to determine who is oppressed. The amount of slurs invented doesn't necessarily have any correlation to how oppressed you are. Also women have never been specifically oppressed as women anywhere on earth for all of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:19 AM
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Nah it's mostly women using those terms against other women. Also many women like being called filthy names, so men came up with a bunch of them to make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:00 AM
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more time on housework than women who make less than their husbands. Feminist housework studies are bunk. https://ncfm.org/2011/04/news/issues/the-housework-myth/ Men are more likely to leave their sick wives than women are to leave their sick husbands. Men leaving sick wives is fake news. https://archive.ph/oH5iv Single, childless women are happier than married women who have children There are conflicting studies on how happy people with children are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLJcY5aLs…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:43 AM
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Only by "misogynists" which proves his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:05 PM
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OK but the book goes into much detail about how women were privileged at the time.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 08:00 PM
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Well in some sense, you could say that everyone was oppressed in the past. This would of course include women. When I say "women weren't oppressed" I mean in special relation to men. That's what feminists mean when they say it and that's what I'm responding to. And yes, many of the things I pointed out do justify the gender roles of the time. Men being in charge and women obeying them was necessary for the group to survive. This required authority given to men. But it was benevolent authority. I…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:59 PM
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Women used to perform much higher than men in IQ tests The book I cited actually surveys the literature of intelligence tests of males and females going back to the early 20th century (including Burt and Terman mentioned in the article you cited) and then argues why they're wrong looking at the data as a whole and explaining it with his developmental theory. so the tests were adjusted so men started performing higher instead No, this is not what happened. The tests were indeed fiddled with to ma…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 09:14 AM
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There is no legit argument against it. Just people who want to oppress men dressing up their anti-male beliefs with nonsensical arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:08 AM
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Even though I know men and women are approximately equal in IQ on average Men have a higher average IQ . https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Differences-Intelligence-Developmental-Theory-ebook/dp/B09NC4ZRH6/ To be fair, I think women were treated lesser than before this societal era Women have never been oppressed. It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while , that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cultus who have, of course,…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:42 AM
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2X puts out fake and unbelievable stories all the time. It's basically a place for feminist fiction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-vFJ04sTc
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:38 AM
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Nah if this was between a white woman and a white man, the feminist libs would be cheering her on as a queen who survived a potential rapist and did what she had to do.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:47 AM
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No, it won't be a free-for-all for real rapists.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:18 AM
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Try making sense first. Also, what money have I made off my comments on reddit? lol
/r/MensRights24/09/22 08:05 AM
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I'm just gonna say, all the libs that hate her would be just fine with her without the racial element involved. She's hated by libs because she's white, not anything she did.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 08:38 PM
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I've heard that men have really high beauty standards and that they're just a bunch of horndogs that will screw anything. It can't be both, so which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:12 PM
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Perhaps harassment is too polite a term. I mean, I guess you could technically call murder "harassment" but it really goes far beyond that. It's just that when I think about the idea of being dragged into a fictional rape story against my will, it does seem violating in a sexual kind of way.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 09:08 AM
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"I don't think there's any good evidence this man is guilty, he appears to be innocent to me." "So you think all men are innocent???" Please stop with this clownish nonsense. Also, I am much more confident that Manson is innocent since there is evidence of it being a coordinated hoax. Weinstein seems like a thing that a bunch of people jumped onto in some kind of mass hysteria. (Although the Manson case does have some mass hysteria mixed in as well to be sure.)
/r/MensRights23/09/22 09:04 AM
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True, didn't think of that. Although that doesn't preclude it from being sexual harassment, just a very deadly kind of sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 08:57 AM
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legendary Probably the only true thing you said. This whole thing surrounding Weinstein is nothing but a legend and hoax.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 07:53 AM
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Nah the idea that being forced to have sex is worse than being persecuted by society/the law is completely absurd. Just repeating it with extra stories doesn't make it less absurd.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 07:49 AM
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False rape accusations result in trauma and persecution by society and/or the law. That's clearly worse than rape.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 06:21 AM
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It's all just a bunch of bitter women plus mob hysteria. No good evidence.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 06:19 AM
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OK but I don't think that's the case here.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:34 AM
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Might want to dial it back on that part, bud. Why? It's true.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:17 AM
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Yeah I think he's completely innocent.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:16 AM
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Cuz he got screwed over.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 02:42 AM
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The whole point of false accusations is to turn the law/society against them. The fact that it doesn't always work doesn't change that. So we have trauma on top of persecution. That is clearly worse than rape. As for suicide, google is free. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8718345/Sister-boy-17-killed-falsely-accused-rape-shares-ordeal.html https://www.ghpage.com/false-rape-accusation-victim-commit-suicide-justice-for-izu-rejected-nani-punani/139988/
/r/MensRights23/09/22 12:57 AM
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False accusations are done to get the law/ society to turn on you. So on top of the trauma of an accusation, you have persecution on top of that. That is clearly worse than rape.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 11:56 PM
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no it is worse than rape
/r/MensRights22/09/22 11:13 PM
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There is no evidence that they knew she was unconscious, regardless of what they said or believed. The rest is just you being incredulous that false convictions happen for some reason. There is no reason to think false convictions don't exist. There are many documented cases of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:10 PM
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Just because they thought something was happening, doesn't mean it was. They were probably primed to see 2 people making out as a woman being victimized by feminist conditioning. Regardless, there is no evidence they saw anything criminal happening. "Male supremacy" would be a vast improvement over the female supremacist society we live under. That would at least be more based in reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:55 PM
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It's been years since I read their testimony, but I don't remember them saying that. Provide evidence please. And even if they did, they were in no position to make that call. So the 2 Swedish dudes are worthless as "witnesses". Yeah, alternative media. The mainstream press was completely on her side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:48 PM
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They didn't witness any rape. They saw them making out, thought something was weird, then chased after Brock. There is no evidence that they saw her unconscious while he was fingering her. They wouldn't have been able to. "Hounded by the media"??? LOL She was praised by the media. Dafuq?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:43 PM
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First of all, Brock Turner is innocent and the small amount of people who do question her story are right to do so. https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=ZakGtYooyPY Second, the vast majority of people uplift Chanel as a hero and condemn Brock Turner, despite him being an innocent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:32 PM
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Like I said, only in order to see if she's telling the truth (and even then, doing that is condemned by feminists and many people just believe whatever the woman says regardless of character). That's not the same as focusing on her "bad character" after it has already been established that she was the victim of abuse, which hardly ever happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:11 PM
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Well he is innocent of abusing Amber. I have no idea if he is a shit human being. Don't know him and probably never will. Most of the time when women get abused, when it has been proven that they were abused, people don't focus on their character. (This is different from looking at a woman's character to determine if she is telling the truth, so don't bring that up.) But when men get abused, they must have deserved it for being "shit human beings". Yeah OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:53 AM
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I think he got into a mild fight with a security guard once. I think it's kind of silly to call that "abuse" but whatever. We're talking about Depp and Amber. Depp didn't abuse Amber in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:52 PM
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Uh, no. He didn't abuse Amber at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:20 PM
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No she's guilty, he's not. That's what the evidence showed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:42 AM
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Yeah, the evidence for Depp's innocence was overwhelming. Most men won't have the kind of evidence he had. Even then, most feminists still think he abused Amber despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:53 PM
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Well Depp is a rare case in that he had really good evidence of his innocence. Most men aren't as lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:14 PM
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Why are you acting like this is a widespread thing lots of men say? The vast majority don't and focus on destroying the man whether the accusation is true or not. I guess the only time I think of that happening is with Marilyn Manson, where some say "why are you surprised he did this" since he has an extreme stage persona, but even then that's not the majority opinion. The vast majority of people who take the accusations as true focus on condemning Manson, not the women. (Manson is innocent btw,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:30 AM
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the same women who say that then go on to complain about an "orgasm gap" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:23 AM
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I know of a case where a woman falsely accused another woman of rape. Singer Melanie Martinez was accused by another woman named Timothy Heller of rape. From what I remember, the evidence in that case showed she was lying. To be fair, there are a few movies that portray women accusing men of stuff where the man is sympathetically portrayed. Although the parallel here is I wonder if they would take a revenge plot against a woman who falsely accused him in a sympathetic way. For example, there are…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 09:23 PM
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I mean if it's just out of curiosity to see how they'll react, go for it I guess. lol Although just reading what they post should be enough. This video has a pretty good rundown of how crazy that place is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-vFJ04sTc
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:54 AM
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You won't get through to them. I wouldn't bother posting anything on that dump of a subreddit.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:49 AM
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Yep. Many feminists are dishonest and say something like "feminism is just about equality". But that would be just as silly as me saying, "if you are in favor of job creation and growing the economy, that makes you a Republican". Of course, the Republican party has a certain lens which to view all that. Democrats also say they are in favor of job creation and growing the economy, but they also have a different way of viewing these things. So just saying "I'm for equality" in and of itself doesn'…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:26 AM
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With all due respect, there's much more to feminism than just "equal rights". It's a whole ideology about how men oppress women with patriarchy. This is inherent to feminism. Some may not be as extreme in this belief as others, but the vast majority of feminists believe this to some extent. The ones who don't are just confused.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:58 AM
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It is absurd for feminist advocates to trot out their threadbare grievance of the want of the suffrage as a serious disability in the face of all the privileges we have been discussing.. It may be right, or it may be wrong, for women to have the suffrage. Respecting this we say nothing here. But, whether right or wrong, we deny that the lack of it, by an otherwise privileged class, constitutes a grievance. Electoral disqualifications are often attendant on special privilege. The Royal Family of …
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:28 PM
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Well any claim that women were historically oppressed (as well as in 3rd world countries) specifically for being women is on them to demonstrate. Patriarchy (real patriarchy, not the feminist version of it) existed by necessity due to the conditions of the time. Here's how E. Belfort Bax put it: It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while , that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cultus who have, of course, taken a br…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 07:35 AM
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You're just being obtuse here. OP is obviously referring to oppression specific to women simply for being women. That is indeed a myth.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 07:23 AM
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least misandrist feminist
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:33 AM
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Can't make sense of your comment dawg. Try again.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 02:37 AM
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Imagine if Manson was caught doing this on camera.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 01:28 AM
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Well duh, obviously people who are ugly are more likely to find someone who likes them just for their personality. The vast majority of people aren't like that though and it's really hard to find someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:17 PM
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Supposed "MRA" gets mad when I defend men's rights. lol
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:04 AM
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Well if your argument is that we should conceal the truth a bit for practical purposes, that's one argument. But it doesn't change the truth of it.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:13 AM
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It's just as much a sexual activity as sticking an object into a girl's genitals or anus against their will.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:11 AM
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Sticking an object into someone's genitals or anus against their will is considered rape. If that's rape, so is circumcision.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:09 AM
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If sticking an object into a girl against her will is rape, then so is circumcision. No way around this.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:08 AM
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Yet you have no refutation, just being offended by me accurately describing it. lol
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:06 AM
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You have not given any reason to dispute the obviously true statement that circumcision is baby knife rape.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:57 AM
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No, it is in fact all those things. In fact, circumcision isn't even ordinary rape, it's knife rape on top of that.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:44 AM
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If a problem males face is considered "delegitimizing" it would be our job to "legitimize" it. Anyone who is fine with knife raping baby boys has no place in any "rights movement" much less a men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:42 AM
0

If someone stuck an object in a girl's genitals without consent, that would be considered rape. Same when an object is used to slice off a part of a male's genitals.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:39 AM
2

Did I say I was against that??? It's also helpful to bring this to a larger group of people.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 03:26 AM
2

It needs to be responded to in front of a larger audience so they will know what to think of it when other feminists make this argument.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 12:08 AM
2

When feminists try to invalidate men's issues with a dumb argument, it is important to respond to that argument.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 11:02 PM
6

Just want to say, there are definitely things said in this presentation that I do not agree with. However, there are some interesting critiques of feminism and corrections about feminist myths of history that are worth considering.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:31 AM
7

yes
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:58 PM
19

False accusations absolutely cause trauma. And then on top of that is being persecuted by society and/or the law which causes even more trauma.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:56 PM
3

Well sure, I'm just talking about the actual rape itself, which may or may not have those other bad things on top of it. But the purpose of a false accusation is to get society and/or the law to turn against him.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:52 PM
1

You can't reason with this level of simpery.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:24 PM
1

Women have never been specifically oppressed in the past, and they aren't specifically oppressed in any 3rd world countries either. The "patriarchal gender roles" are necessary in these kinds of societies in order for them to survive. Here is a relevant quote from the Marxist historian E. Belfort Bax's The Legal Subjection of Men: It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while , that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cu…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:46 AM
65

If people are threatening to commit crimes against you, you should call the cops.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 09:07 AM
2

Do y’all just hate that women have some rights? No, hope that cleared things up.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 06:56 PM
1

Women can have preferences for guys over 6 feet and with a certain amount of money but as soon as a guy has preferences it's not OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:13 AM
0

No, the problem is the exact opposite. Men try and twist themselves to avoid seeing women behaving in a calculated way even when it's completely obvious. That's why many men say they "can't understand women" when if they just took their behavior at face value, they would be able to understand them just fine, but the picture would not be flattering, so they come up with some elaborate theory of women operating on a different language basis or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:42 PM
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The core of feminism is patriarchy theory and how women are oppressed by men. This misandrist falsehood is inherent to feminism. If someone calls themself a feminist but don't hold to those beliefs, they are just confused. But I guarantee you that the vast majority of feminists believe precisely that. Some may be more "moderate" in this misandrist belief than others, but even the most "moderate" of this falsehood needs to be called out. Your "strategy" of bypassing this inherent misandry isn't g…
/r/MensRights03/09/22 04:01 AM
0

That's just not true. Hardly anyone cares about cougars going after younger guys. At most, some people will make fun of them for being desperate or whatever, but hardly anyone says they're predatory or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:14 PM
-2

Part of this is based on the myth that our brains aren't fully developed until our mid 20s. The book "An Empirical Introduction to Youth" completely debunks this. https://www.amazon.com/Empirical-Introduction-Youth-Joseph-Bronski-ebook/dp/B09681YYD4/ But basically this is all just an attempt by women to limit competition for themselves by limiting the pool of women certain men can mate with. This is obviously the case since no one gets all up in arms about cougars pursuing younger guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:54 PM
21

No the majority of domestic violence is by women against men. There is denying that men commit more domestic violence because I am denying it right now.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:44 AM
7

Maybe, but he didn't rape anyone.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:21 AM
3

Many of the commenters seem to think this is just a sneeky way for him to end up raping her at some point in the future and then use the video as "proof". Of course, that could easily be remedied by stating the time and date and what you are saying only applies to that time and date. Also the metadata could be checked. The other objection is that consent can be revoked at any time. True, but that doesn't mean it's completely useless evidence. It is still evidence she consented regardless. Just b…
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:55 PM
2

He didn't do anything sexual with her aside from the texts which he didn't know her age.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 09:17 PM
10

He didn't send her any explicit pictures.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:38 AM
6

She was never sexually assaulted. The evidence shows he didn't know her age because she didn't say her age and when she did he cut her off.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:36 AM
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He didn't know the age of the person. He didn't have the mens rea to commit any crime. He pleaded guilty to put it behind him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea Meanwhile the accuser made a bunch of demonstrably false accusations when he cut her off for realizing her age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYogSonDj8Y
/r/MensRights24/08/22 11:15 PM
2

Her premise that the sexual revolution is bad for women directly implies that women don't make good decisions. All the sexual revolution did is lift restrictions on sexual choice. Her "advice list" at the end is irrelevant. There's nothing inherent in the sexual revolution that means women can't make certain choices. One example of this is: A man who is aroused by violence is a man to steer well clear of, whether or not he uses the vocabulary of BDSM to excuse his behavior. If he can maintain an…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 01:38 AM
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If reciprocal violence is not mutual abuse, then in that case, most reciprocal violence is in fact abuse by the woman. For violence frequency, the main effects of perpetrator gender and reciprocity were both significant and there was a significant interaction. For perpetrators who were men, the reciprocity effect was nonsignificant (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=1.19; P=.17), which indicated that the frequency of violence perpetrated by men did not vary by reciprocity. For perpetrators who were wome…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:39 AM
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"Not all men" is too defensive and pathetic. Never said that ever.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 09:33 PM
1

Well it's been removed now so I can't tell if you're right. But even the way the study was originally done was flawed since it didn't tell us who left who. It just looked at the divorce rate and everyone assumed it was the men who left for some reason. But there was no basis for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:47 PM
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false https://archive.ph/oH5iv And the specific study you've cited was retracted due to a coding error. https://www.gbtribune.com/news/trending-topics/study-that-found-husbands-prone-to-leave-sick-wives-was-flawed-researchers-say/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0022146514568351
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:18 AM
8

no she raped him
/r/MensRights08/08/22 07:37 PM
5

This girl is a rapist.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 07:36 PM
2

Well I've made clear I don't endorse any prescriptions made in the video. If you challenge the story of "women's oppression" historically or in certain countries, (even in 1st world countries, but that's a separate issue) then you'll be called a misogynist. I don't really care what they'll call me. My position is that women have never been oppressed and no amount of calling me a misogynist will make me shut up.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 10:56 PM
2

To be clear, I am not endorsing what this person is advocating. But it is an interesting commentary on the supposed "oppression" of women in the past and other countries. When men were given a certain authority over women for necessary reasons given the lack of technology, there was required to be some level of force to back up that authority. If women went against the rules of society, there would be force applied to them, just like men.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 09:52 PM
1

I feel like honing in exclusively on one line about ‘mens housework is harder’ missed the point I’m making That seemed to be what your comment was mainly about to me. You can point out anything you think I missed if you like.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 08:04 PM
1

LOL Are you seriously bringing up Depp? He's even more obviously innocent than Manson, who I am near certain is innocent. This isn't about emotional attachments. I didn't grow up watching Cosby much at all. Weinstein probably doesn't seem like a pleasant guy to be around to me. But that has nothing to do with the evidence for their guilt.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:29 AM
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It comes from Illma's iPad, and she accidentally admitted the images were hers when the lawsuit was filed. Under Exhibit B in Howard King's declaration: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XbOipJ6bRiEqnp676eBUFrmR2VnfcBx1
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:24 AM
1

Howard King's declaration showed the transcript of the letter being used in the custody hearing.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:21 AM
1

It's in his lawsuit. We know it's real because she filed it in a custody hearing. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RwIgAk_U96xTUE6xXArFf49GxwzZhrwp/view Also, several declarations have been made. The ones dealing with the FBI letter are Blair Berk, Howard King, and Bryton Gore. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XbOipJ6bRiEqnp676eBUFrmR2VnfcBx1
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:49 AM
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Gather as much evidence as you can. Audio, video, ect. After that, it's up to you what do do with it.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:34 AM
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You do know she's an actual actress, right? People absolutely can act in a convincing way. It's not just opinion, there's actual evidence. Like the fact she forged an FBI letter and used it in a custody dispute. There is tons more discrediting Wood, her co conspirator Gore, and several other accusers that they recruited. Like the fact that Ashley Smithline used Pinterest photos as "evidence" of her abuse. That is just a small sampling of the evidence against them. The evidence points to all of i…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:14 AM
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Multiple people have come forward with stories Evidence shows that ERW and Gore conspired to recruit accusers. Evan and several of the other accusers have been discredited. With those together, that is good evidence that the whole thing is a hoax against Manson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Me6ChXmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMNW3rnQhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyDiOsIgzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNb-wsFoJ7A&list=PLo3QYi956iLkwCpd1LsN4Y_c_XMyokCpO https://www.youtube.c…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 05:08 AM
1

Yep, he was absolutely railroaded.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:47 AM
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completely still, nonreactive, eyes closed None of that means she was unconscious. I've been all 3 of those things at once before and I was definitely not unconscious. But we don't even know if they checked well enough to know she was all 3 of those things. Almost certainly not before they chased after him, and afterward all they probably did was see that she was tired and assumed she was "unconscious" based on that. Your whole story is unevidenced assertions. Seriously get help. You're truly si…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:36 AM
1

Even if they could, the only time they could have done so was after they chased him. But I doubt they even checked good enough even after they chased him.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:20 AM
1

The witnesses could not make any medical diagnoses like that. You're just saying more and more absurd things.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:16 AM
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Him being in prison was wrong because the simp jury convicted him with no evidence. Brock is innocent. https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=ZakGtYooyPY
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:56 AM
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Bill Cosby did NOT confess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAXR7JdbNU Brock Turner is innocent. https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=ZakGtYooyPY
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:55 AM
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My only problem with Brock's sentence is that it existed at all. Him spending 1 second of time in prison was an injustice.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:44 AM
1

So if someone doesn't respond to you, that means they're unconscious? LOL This a ridiculous and desperate argument. No, we don't know she was unconscious even after they found her, but even if she was that wouldn't prove anything. Closing your eyes while being out of it can just mean you're tired. Being tired doesn't mean it was rape.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:34 AM
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literally 3/4 are convicted Half, Bill Cosby is no longer convicted. And there's no good evidence for any of them. the remaining one has a mountain of evidence Manson definitely has a "mountain of evidence" alright, for his innocence that is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Me6ChXmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyDiOsIgzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHE_nAQqxRY https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RwIgAk_U96xTUE6xXArFf49GxwzZhrwp/view https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DQTtjr1p5PkyaW…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:28 AM
1

"Looked unconscious" doesn't mean she actually was. They saw a couple of students making out and then they assumed he was assaulting her. No evidence he was. I kind of doubt she was actually unconscious after they caught him. She was probably closing her eyes and kind of out of it assumed she was. But even if she was unconscious by the time they could check really good (which I don't think they did) that doesn't prove she was unconscious while they were having sex.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:12 AM
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LOL I never hid that I listed people who were convicted. Although Cosby has had his sentence overturned so he is no longer a "convicted rapist". I was just listing people who have no good evidence of their guilt. And since I think all of them are innocent, I consider them "convicted of rape" not "convicted rapists" since the latter implies guilt, which I don't believe.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:03 AM
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Nope, the only time they would have been able to tell when she was unconscious was afterward since they chased after him. There's no way for them to tell before that. https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=ZakGtYooyPY
/r/MensRights06/08/22 02:56 AM
2

She was only found unconscious afterwards. No evidence he had sex with her while she was unconscious.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 02:48 AM
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Someone not being convicted in a court of law is an important thing to take note of before condemning them, absolutely. But someone being convicted in a court of law isn't the be all and end all. If someone has been convicted without good evidence, like Harvey Weinstein, that should be of concern.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 02:40 AM
1

No, women's "housework" isn't hard at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/MensRights05/08/22 10:20 PM
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No, the jobs men do around the house and away from home are tougher and more demanding. "Hours" is irrelevant. Women clean as a hobby. Men do what needs to be done and that's that.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:02 PM
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???
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:39 AM
2

no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:27 PM
0

no u
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:33 AM
3

Oh please. If Amy Berg was really unbiased, there is so much she could have included that goes against their narrative, but she didn't. It was essentially Evan's documentary. Manson is innocent.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:46 AM
2

Yet you cite Evan's documentary as gospel. LOL
/r/MensRights23/07/22 10:08 PM
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You talking about Phoenix Rising? That's 2 parts. And it's been debunked. https://www.marilynmansonuncanceled.com/2022/01/evan-rachel-woods-ridiculous.html?m=1 https://www.marilynmansonuncanceled.com/2022/01/a-supplement-to-my-detailed-review-and.html?m=1 https://www.marilynmansonuncanceled.com/2022/03/evan-rachel-woods-ridiculous.html?m=1
/r/MensRights23/07/22 07:13 PM
2

submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:08 AM
2

You use words very strangely, as if you are not 100% something, the word doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:04 AM
2

???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:16 PM
2

You only have to look at the current state of reproductive rights for men to know that's false
/r/MensRights16/07/22 04:16 PM
0

I remember reading something about the 50% number being flawed but forgot where I read it. Thanks for this. Completely agree btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:04 AM
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You cannot be this dense. They were throwing that back in the face of those who say that to men.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:59 PM
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Yes I'm upset about this.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 08:34 PM
2

The book is fiction and has been debunked: https://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/The_Long_Hard_Road_Out_of_Hell The main accusers have lots of problems with their stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMNW3rnQhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyDiOsIgzc https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo3QYi956iLkwCpd1LsN4Y_c_XMyokCpO If the main most well known ones are BS, and the rest of them coordinated their stories as we see from the documentary, and the other accusations are similar to these fake s…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 03:58 AM
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Leave it to a "men's rights" sub to defend a woman who faked an FBI letter and used it to coordinate hoax accusations against an innocent man. And then assume guilt of a man based on accusations that can't be verified. LOL What a joke.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 03:40 AM
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I don't see how men's legal rights in a men's rights sub is "off topic".
/r/MensRights05/07/22 03:29 AM
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he's innocent
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:42 AM
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why
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:37 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ and to go back a bit further back: https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/index.htm
/r/MensRights04/07/22 06:46 PM
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k
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:52 AM
9

they can just get their tubes tied lol
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:16 AM
9

And they still have more privilege, just slightly less than before. And they are still raging. lol
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:04 AM
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Even if that were true, which I don't believe, that's completely irrelevant to the fact that there is no legal way out for men. If that many men are actually getting around the law, good for them. I say even more men need to fight against female privilege. It's not enough as far as I'm concerned.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:03 AM
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wrong: https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/ https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/index.htm
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:48 PM
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Well that's literally a description of feminism yet feminism gets taken seriously. So your analysis isn't accurate.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:31 PM
14

Flip the sexes and that fits feminism a lot better.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:29 PM
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Men do not have a legal out. You are lying. Forcing a woman to travel for Healthcare is extreme. Not as extreme as 18 years forced labor. Banning abortion is going to force more men into fatherhood. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to make progress. Every revolutionary and activist knows that.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:47 PM
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Women still have more rights. They just have to drive a few extra hours to get an abortion, while men still have no way out. Although I won't deny that I see this as a positive development. I won't support any abortion legalization that doesn't also include the right for men to opt out. It's a long shot, but it's the best shot we've gotten for a while.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:21 PM
1

They probably thought she wasn't really raped. Kinda messed up, but it wasn't a scheme to "protect rapists". And men get killed for all kinds of things. Using barbaric cultures where bad shit happens to everyone but only focusing on when bad things happen to women is kind of silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:49 PM
1

TIL patriarchal societies are pro-female because the restrict women's freedom. Yep. This is how the Marxist historian E. Belfort Bax put it: It would not be difficult to show, were it worth while, that even the disabilities of women in past times have been grossly exaggerated by apostles of the feminist cultus who have, of course, taken a brief to prove the wickedness of 'horrid man' to the poor downtrodden female. Such disabilities as really obtained were for the most part the necessary outcome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:45 PM
1

Do you at least acknowledge that most people would see this case very differently if the sexes were reversed?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 06:39 PM
1

I already addressed the restaurant thing. All you have is that there was a "body at the end of it". But since we have evidence of Gabby being initially violent with him, most people would take that as the stress of a battered woman with the sexes reversed. The report of Brian's "controlling behavior" is based on what Gabby told her. Sounds like Amber Heard making stuff up. When did Gabby say he threatened to drive off without her? I watched all the bodycam footage and don't remember her saying t…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 05:49 PM
1

The police concluded that the slapping was defensive and in response to her initial aggression, which Gabby admitted to. Him being "aggressive" with restaurant staff tells us not much. Many people have non violent aggressive episodes which doesn't end up in anything serious. There was no report of violence. Gabby, on the other hand, was violent and admitted to it. With the sexes reversed, many would see this as a battered woman who was under a lot of stress.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:40 AM

Anyone who thinks that this means women now have less rights, think again. They can put a child up for adoption, there are places they can surrender a child, they can drive to a state abortion is legal, they can take the morning after pill. Sure it won't be easy, but all of these are options men still won't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:56 AM

Weird how that idea never occured to anyone who said men should just get vasectomies in response to the fact that men didn't have reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:57 PM

advice for women dealing with the new abortion laws: just tie your tubes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:26 PM
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Good news ladies. Abortion will still be legal even in many Southern states. You just have to make a false rape accusation https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vkig5l/were_going_to_see_a_mass_of_false_rape_reports/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:05 PM
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Not as bad as 18 years forced labor, which many women will be able to avoid as I said. Also, if pregnancy were that bad, there wouldn't be the amount of pro life women that there are. So I call BS on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:13 PM
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Don"t worry, we already get our dicks mutilated, something much worse than pregnancy. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:42 PM
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Well I've always heard it put in those terms as well as bodily autonomy by most proponents of the pro choice position. If you see it differently, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:25 AM
1

Looks like women had their reproductive rights slightly equalized to men's today. (I say only slightly because women will still be able to abandon the baby at a firefighting unit. Maybe only like a few states might require contacting the father first. Also, abortion will still be legal in most states.)
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:22 AM
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Looks like women had their reproductive rights slightly equalized to men's today. (I say only slightly because women will still be able to abandon the baby at a firefighting unit. Maybe only like a few states might require contacting the father first. Also, abortion will still be legal in most states.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:10 AM
2

wat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:57 AM
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Feminists: "My bodily autonomy rights have been removed!" Me with a mutilated dick: "First time?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:10 PM
6

If I lower my standards and eat average ice cream that still tastes good, instead of only holding out for the best kind of ice cream that is very rare, that doesn't mean I'm "settling" for ice cream I don't like. Unless for women, they just find the average man repulsive. Is that what you're arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:16 AM
3

It's not something that can be explained. Women like dominant men and men like submissive women for base biological reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:24 PM
0

The pre conception activities that lead to that is irrelevant for the purposes of discussion here, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:04 PM
0

That doesn't make it relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:03 PM

"His actions" before conception are not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:24 AM

Completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:23 AM

Yes of course. Anyone who is pro choice but in favor of forcing men to take responsibility for women's choice to give birth with child support is just a someone that wants to maintain female privilege. They may try to obfuscate that with a bunch of BS "arguments", but none of it stands up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:27 AM

The last stipulation is silly. The reason the man shouldn't be held liable for child support is because he is not responsible for the woman's choice to give birth. What he does many decades after that is not relevant. Now if they try and get involved like a year later while the child is still needing to be maintained, that's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:23 AM
2

Well Manson and Depp are good friends. So there is that. What bad stuff has he admitted to? Yes, I am aware that there are multiple accusers. None of them stand up to scrutiny though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMNW3rnQhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyDiOsIgzc Whatever "MRAs" as a group do, I have no control over. I will continue to support Manson against these hoax accusations regardless though.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 10:30 PM
10

where
/r/MensRights06/06/22 10:42 PM
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Manson has provided more evidence than his accusers ever did. The media has not been shy about spreading these accusations without any disregard for whether they are spreading misinformation, as well as him being blacklisted from the industry. I think spreading something to counter that which has evidence behind it is perfectly fine.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 07:46 PM
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RwIgAk_U96xTUE6xXArFf49GxwzZhrwp/view
/r/MensRights02/06/22 04:06 AM
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His ex wife, Dita, mentioned his abuse in several interviews as early as 2007. Well if she did, she has retracted it, since she has said: I have been processing the news that broke Monday regarding Marilyn Manson. To those who have expressed your concerns of my well-being, I appreciate your kindness. Please know that the details made public do not match my personal experience during our 7 years together as a couple. Had they, I would not have married him in December 2005. I left 12 months later …
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:27 AM
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Of course every case is different. But there is substantial evidence that Wood and Gore lied and conspired to bring out other false accusers, create a fake FBI document in order to achieve their ends, as well as other illegal activity. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RwIgAk_U96xTUE6xXArFf49GxwzZhrwp/view Also, the "autobiography" is fiction.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 01:15 AM
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Depp didn't even make it though, his lawyer Adam Waldman did.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 08:10 PM
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Women complaining about men feeling "entitled" to anything is pretty funny. Women are literally the entitled sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:38 PM
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Tbh, I have more respect for these kinds of feminists. At least they don't try and gaslight you by pretending they are on your side or whatever. Completely crazy and delusional, but also very straightforward and honest about what they think.
/r/AntiFeminists03/05/22 07:47 AM
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As a socialist, I believe men and women are oppressed by capitalism as workers. However, men are disadvantaged on top of this as men. The reality is that women are privileged in reproductive rights, domestic violence policy, divorce courts, the justice system, ect. There is a mix of a certain type of traditional gynocentrism plus feminism that is responsible for this. The most coherent definition of "patriarchy" is a system that oppresses women and privileges men. Such a system does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:47 AM
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Well if you just want to talk about individuals and not the sexes as a whole, what are you even doing in this sub? lol I do agree with the "not all men" sentiment. Not me. I think that's too defensive. It's really "not the vast majority of men". I don't care if men have brought more good to the world in terms of math, science, technology, etc. Well you can "not care" all you want, but I am just countering the prevalent false anti-male memes with true pro-male memes. If you don't care about the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:38 AM
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Guess you could say it was a low value sub.
/r/AntiFeminists28/04/22 01:56 PM
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Whenever I bring up all the good men have done, then all of a sudden everyone becomes individualists again. Then they go right back to man bashing for all the bad things men have done. Well as they say, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Saying that men, as a group, have brought a lot of good to the world, more than women have, and definitely more good than bad, is just a factual statement. You can have pride in other people's accomplishments without taking credit for it. Familie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:27 PM
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Women used to have shorter life spans because women couldn't handle the harsh conditions of life as well. It's only after modern technology (mostly invented by men) that women now have longer life spans. So women literally do have men to thank for living a longer life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:56 AM
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You think these people would tolerate saying that men are victims of women's rape because now falsely accused men won't be believed? I see no reason to extend any more of an "olive branch" that they would never extend to me.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 07:26 AM
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You are correct. Women are way more likely to commit domestic violence. This is confirmed by injury rates. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:41 AM
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"Men not sharing their emotions is toxic masculinity. Men should be open with their problems." "Uh, you think men have problems? STFU whiney MRA manbaby."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:32 AM
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Ah yes of course. Because women just show up to the abortion clinic on a daily basis, it's like buying the milk. It's still a choice and thus a way out. I don't know first hand, but my understanding is that for a lot, if not most women, abortion is deeply traumatic. They don't take it lightly. It's not traumatic and they do take it lightly. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953619306999 Only if he's stupid enough not to wear a condom. OK so now all of a sudden birth control …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:16 PM
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That is completely wrong. If a woman doesn't want the offspring, she can abort it and move on with her life. The man has no way out and is on the hook for her choice to give birth. As for stds, gay men are the most likely to get them, and that doesn't stop them from screwing a lot. Compare that to lesbians, who are the least likely to get them, yet have sex so little that the term "lesbian bed death" is used to describe it. That also disproves your strength argument btw. I already addressed your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:16 PM
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LOL I never said women weren't weaker than men. In fact, the articles I linked uses the fact that men are way stronger than women as a premise in his argument. I'm talking about what women are actually afraid of. And the idea that women being afraid of men explains much of anything is a complete joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:48 PM
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Women engage in domestic violence more than men: https://stevemoxon.co.uk/how-and-why-partner-violence-is-normal-female-behaviour-but-aberrational-male-behaviour/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ That indicates that women's fear is way overblown. Sure, if women weren't as afraid, they would engage in it even more than they currently do, but fear is clearly not the main thing occupying their thoughts in relation to men. No doubt women have more of it than men, but to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:34 PM
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Poor countries are more traditional because they have to be. Your point here is completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:21 AM
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If what you're saying is true, women would just never interact with men. Quit being dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:02 AM
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Well if you haven't researched it, you shouldn't be making statements about it.
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/22 07:05 PM
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Wrong. Read E. Belfort Bax. He destroyed the 1st wave as well as the myth that women were oppressed back then.
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/22 06:58 PM
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Basically, feminism has always sucked and been bad for men, even the first wave.
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/22 06:53 PM
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https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/index.htm
/r/AntiFeminists10/04/22 06:43 PM
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Sounds like feminists just doing the usual whining of bogus oppression to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:26 PM
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Imagine thinking the entire difference in behavior here can be solely reduced to just fear of potential violence. Completely delusional. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:25 PM
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??? This is definitely not true. https://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2021/10/what-if-women-just-dont-like-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:05 AM
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Depends what you mean by "need". If you mean women don't need a relationship with a man, I agree. Although women still very much need men. They just don't have to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:03 PM
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I am convinced biology plays a big role in this. Even after being "red pilled" so to speak, I still have a base drive to treat women better and like women more. You wouldn't get this impression from just reading my comments here. So if I'm like that, you definitely aren't going to drive it out of the average man just by "teaching" him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:10 PM
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Utah is also consistently ranked as the worst state for women's equality, according to Wallethub. All states in the country give women more rights than men. So this statement doesn't really make sense to me. The history of gender roles and patriarchy is putting men in charge of things so they can do things for women. That's all these questions tell us. Women did quite well under men's supervision. That is really all is needed to explain women's "sexism".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:23 AM
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mfw men are so superior that they have to do literally everything for women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:37 PM
1

OK, so is your position that manosphere men hate all women equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:58 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:54 PM
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So is your position that men like women who are not pickmes better? Doesn't this go against your pink pill worldview? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:33 AM
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Those things have nothing to do with each other. I'm trying to imagine myself in the hypothetical reverse situation, that if I slept around a lot, women would be less attracted to me. But it just seems obvious to me that that would say nothing about what kind of standards I should have for a partner. What am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:10 PM
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That's why I said "barely exists". I think the author is more talking about trying to find it in a scientific and experimental setting. Of course, it's a big world and obviously humans aren't neat enough to determine that an attitude within the population "doesn't exist" based merely on experiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:59 PM
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I disagree that women settle with ugly guys. I think it's just a bias we have against men. Any man who isn't chad is ugly according to most people's standards. And obviously, not all women can get a chad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxU5Y9lCS8 In reality, men are more beautiful than women. (this is purely aesthetic, no homo) It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:04 AM
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Both men and women engage in misandry, whereas misogyny in both sexes barely exists. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/misogyny-has-no-scientific-basis/ Since it's mostly men's job to "protect women" I wouldn't be surprised if men engaged in more open displays of it. But ultimately I can't say for sure who does it more. The misandry in men has been noted for a long time: There are a vast number of men who cultivate the pretence of having a contempt for, or a prejudice against, their own sex. While Modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:37 PM
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It's basically the opposite with women in these films. For women it's: "It doesn't matter how you behave. You can be a completely horrible person and still get what you want in the end." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5KlGljHT8g
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:19 PM
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Someone has to talk to someone else in a random setting. This is completely desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 01:53 PM
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Yes, that was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:09 AM
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How are men supposed to be friends with you without talking to you first? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:55 AM
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Well that's not the way they described it. But if we're just going to make shit up, I guess I could just say you were going to take advantage of all your male friends and then accused them of just trying to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:53 AM
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Well I've seen several men on this sub claim that all their female friends were just using them in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:02 AM
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Yeah us men never make friends in new towns. We just stay in the same town our whole life and live like a hermit. And if we don't like it, we can solve it with our phone somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:29 AM
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women: "of course men and women can just be friends" also women: "anytime a man says something to me, it's definitely about sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:25 AM
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LOL That's not how it's used and you know it. It means any woman that doesn't exploit men to the greatest possible degree. The type of woman you describe barely exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:06 AM
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There's nothing anti-feminist about that at all. It certainly wouldn't be anti-feminist in the traditionalist sense, since traditionalism gives some form of compensation to men, even if women get a better deal on the whole. Feminism is just about men having obligations toward women while women give nothing in return. That aspect of feminism has been noted over a century ago. Chivalry, as understood by Modern Sentimental Feminism, means unlimited licence for women in their relations with men, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:07 AM
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Well, any claim that says "all" of a certain large group do something is obviously false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:55 AM

Most sexual relationships between men and women involve prostitution. Criminalizing it just bans the most honest form of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:44 AM
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FDS advocates being completely parasitic while not offering anything in return. How is that not abusive? TRP, whatever its faults, has never advocated anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:31 AM
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It's actually the other way around. The erosion of traditionalism means women can't manipulate men like they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:16 AM
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Women will never want to give up those sweet legal privileges they have over men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:10 AM
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Because women just don't like men very much, while men like women a lot. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's true. https://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2021/10/what-if-women-just-dont-like-men.html Although your characterization that men who can't get laid are more likely to be misogynistic is false. It's the other way around: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Misogynistic_men_are_more_sexually_active_than_most_men And this is after considering the fact that misogyny is hardly a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:25 AM
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Fleshlights exist for men as well, and there's no lack of men who have lackluster experiences with shitty women. So that doesn't really explain much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:06 AM
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More likely than rich women would marry poor men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:59 AM

would a happy monogamous 20-year relationship with a woman you can verify with 100% certainty was faithful to you the whole time be derailed if she volunteered one day that, before you two even met, she had a drunken hookup with a guy in less time than it took the two of you to have sex? The whole reason men are evolutionarily wired to value women's virginity in the first place is because it is an indicator of a woman's likelihood to screw someone else. So the answer to your question would be no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:59 AM
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The woman choosing to give birth is the most recent cause for why the child was born. If we're going into a bunch of other causes before that, you have to get all the construction workers and other people who led up to her getting pregnant also responsible. The only thing that makes any sense is to go with the most recent cause, and that is the woman's choice to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:07 PM
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Fine, then just call it the most recent cause or whatever. If you are diverting attention because of semantics, that doesn't change the argument at all and just diverting the whole discussion into something irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:58 PM
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Because it is the most recent cause. Secondary causes are causes that happen before the primary cause as well as cause the primary cause to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:50 PM
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Because that is the primary cause. Buying the house is a secondary cause. You keep saying "what about these other causes!!!" when I have made clear from the very beginning that other causes exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:47 PM
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Nope, never said that wasn't a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:43 PM
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I don't know why you're treating house ownership as something other than a choice Never did that. It's funny how to argue for women's legal privileges, you have now gone into pretending not to understand basic cause and effect. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:42 PM
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No, paying it would be, because if you stop you'll lose your house. Therefore paying your mortgage is the primary cause of you still having a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:38 PM
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Secondary causes are necessarily required, otherwise they wouldn't be causes at all. If you don't get a mortgage and just pay for all the house up front, then that would be the primary cause, not the mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:28 PM
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I never denied that. That doesn't change what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:24 PM
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No, it is relevant to the fact that you own the house, it's just not the primary cause. It is one of many secondary causes. I never denied that secondary causes to children being born existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:16 PM
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??? No idea where you got that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:47 AM
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With your understanding of cause and effect, you will lose anything you've gotten through a loan. For your sake, don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:30 AM
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Purchasing the house would be a secondary cause. Continuing to pay the mortgage so you don't lose it is the primary reason you still have a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:22 AM
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It is. Try not paying your mortgage and see if you still have a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:19 AM
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It is a secondary choice, but it's only the primary choice that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:15 AM
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Because abortions occur after the fetus is made. Therefore, the primary cause in which human offspring are born is after the fetus is created, not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:09 AM
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I know how fetuses get created. How fetuses get created is completely irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:06 AM
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She is pregnant because of numerous secondary causes, which are completely irrelevant. The only one that is relevant is the primary cause, which is on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:03 AM
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The primary cause is women's choice to give birth. Having sex has now been relegated to secondary things that result in children and thus have no role in who is responsible. Using that logic, the construction workers who built the house people had sex in are also responsible for the child. So that is now prohibited as an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:00 AM
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This is a completely facile response. What does women being able to give birth and men not have anything to do with the fact that men are held responsible for women's choice? Absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:54 AM
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Yes. It is legal to genitally mutilate male infants, women have privilege in the criminal justice system including domestic violence policy with the Duluth model and VAWA, women have privilege in the divorce courts, and women are legally privileged in reproductive rights as they can abort with no legal consequences but men are forced to pay for their choice if they do give birth even if they've been raped or the child is not theirs. Women have really always had it better as Martin van Creveld's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:46 AM
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If "bodily autonomy" was the reason abortion was legal, then knife raping male infants wouldn't be allowed. So that's definitely not the reason. Even granting that false premise, it is still a legal privilege regardless of the original reason for it. Saying "this isn't a legal privilege because that wasn't the intention" is a complete non sequitur. On top of that, women having bodily autonomy through abortion means that the primary cause of offspring being born is women choosing to give birth, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:38 AM
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There's nothing wrong with men not wanting to be responsible for their children when women can literally get out of it by having an abortion. Any man who fights this legal privilege women have is absolutely doing the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:27 AM
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Mel Feit made the same point. Much of child support is indeed alimony. At 7 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r20Y3c7vPI More evidence it's not for the children: https://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-child-support-facts-vs-feminists/ It's also just another legal privilege women have. Women can escape CS by having an abortion, while men have no way out. It is essentially forcing men to take responsibility for women's choices. Anyone who says "women have to pay child sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:21 AM
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Nobody is a "biological determinist". That's just a bugaboo you've made up in your head. Most people recognize that environment and biology play a role in our behavior. The only "determinist" here seems to be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:03 AM
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So is your tactic just to say I said things I never said, respond to that, then declare victory? LOL FDS is literally all about entitlement for women. A "high value man" let's women take everything from them while giving nothing in return. Repeating obvious falsehoods doesn't make it true. cheating, being choked and slapped during sex, being chained to the kitchen, and many more things Women are way more into that stuff than men are. 50 Shades of Grey became a bestseller because of women. Also: …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:42 AM
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I literally proved otherwise. The evidence I provided shows most of the abuse is by women against men rather than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:21 AM
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Oh, so you are legit crazy. LMAO Have a nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:43 AM
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OK so you are just ignoring reality then. I already said what kind of society I wanted. You are just ignoring what I said, so there's not much else to say. And the point of the video I linked is that Islam is NOT right about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:35 AM
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It was very real as I've extensively demonstrated from evidence from that era. So pick one. because of alimony or property taxes from the late 1800s or some shit Because I was specifically responding to what you said about the past. Here's more relevant stuff to the modern era: https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:46 AM
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You've presented a false dichotomy. Nope, the dichotomy is real. After women got more property rights and men were responsible for what they did with the property. This was legalized tyranny against men. So either feminism was responsible for that state of affairs or it wasn't. There is no other option. My ideal world is one of legal equality where men are freed from the oppression of feminism. And no, I don't want anything like an Islamic society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzoiyZSYxM
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:19 AM
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Your selective reading comprehension is a hoot. Either feminism is responsible for the oppression of men, or feminism didn't do anything of note. Pick one. we're four waves into feminism at this point and you keep ranting about taxes No, I was clearly responding to what you said about the position women were in in the past Separate but equal amirite Well clearly you are mad about them not being equal. I maintain no oppression occured. The Matrimonial Clauses Act in 1937 I'll just let Bax respond…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:11 AM
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Feminists agitated for rights, men decided which ones they would pass in legislation and how they'd be written. OK so feminism IS responsible for the legal oppression men faced. Dammit, I should be getting my money back. WHERE'S MY VAGINA REBATE?! I'm not talking about today. Calm down. His experience as an extremely ostentatiously wealthy man who also can't vote is not the experience of hundreds of millions of women who are also disenfranchised. And being a legally privileged group, women were …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:30 PM
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The Married Women's Property Act 1870 made it so women had full property rights but men were still responsible for them. You can't say on one had that feminists are the reason women have property rights, but then deny that feminists are the reason men were legally oppressed as a result of that. Pick one or the other. Yes, not paying taxes is a privilege. You think not voting equals oppression. The Prince of Wales couldn't vote. Therefore, the Prince of Wales was oppressed. QED If men would be up…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:23 PM
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Lundy Bancroft is a complete crank. He dismisses the idea that women abuse men by saying no one notices the abuse of men, therefore it doesn't exist. But people DO notice it: Surprisingly, there is at most only slightly greater (less than a 3:2 ratio) female than male injury as a result of IPV (Archer 2000, Mirrlees-Black et al. 1998), a non-significant difference (Capaldi and Owen 2001), or parity (George 2003). Even more surprisingly, considering only serious injury, there are either substanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:14 PM
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Uh, no. I've read enough FDS to know that's exactly what they mean by HVM. A high value man is a man with no standards for women. A man who has any standards for women at all is a low value man to them. You are either lying or not even paying attention to FDS at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:54 PM
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If you expect a tradwife who exists to serve you, you're an abuser. Being a "tradwife" is a better deal for the woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ Apparently it's "abuse" if she serves the man, but men working much harder to serve the housewife is not abuse apparently. If you expect your wife to take the charge in the domestic and emotional labour in the relationship, you're an abuser. Well as demonstrated in the above video, "domestic labor" barely exists. So that is not abusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:37 PM
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And whose fault was that? Feminists. Under coverture, men had control over all the property but they were also responsible for all the taxes and debts made by everyone in the family. Feminists changed that to where men had none of the rights but only the responsibilities. I love how the next author can't decide whether it's right or wrong for women to be barred from holding office because the Prince of Wales exists. So you think the Prince of Wales was oppressed? Solution - tell men they can't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:10 PM
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Property ownership got extended to women while men were still forced to pay for their debts and pay their taxes. Fun, fun. None of those things were "oppression" for women, they were just what was provided for men given their greater responsibilities. At least patriarchy was, though more beneficial to the female, more of a fair give and take arrangement. With feminism, it was, as Bax put it: From all we have said, it will now be evident, one would think, to the most prejudiced reader that modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:24 AM
1

New study confirms men like big boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:33 AM
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There's very little functional difference between a group of men who post things like "women are the oldest teenagers in the house" and an explicit anti-feminist. If women are the "oldest teenagers in the house" it's not been helped much by feminism, an ideology that infantilizes women. If you don't like that stereotype, feminism will not help you in others overcoming that perception. I suppose changing your flair will clue women posters into the fact that you're more into the anti woman's right…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:30 AM
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I have a hard time believing there was a time when men didn't like big butts. But maybe I'm just too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:47 AM
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I know my flair says "red pill" but that's more about just me leaning towards the anti-feminist side of things, not that I necessarily agree with everything the RP subreddit says. If it causes more confusion, I may change it. I don't really have an issue with the idea that there are people who are into stuff most people would be repulsed by in larger numbers than most would think and that they tend not to admit it. Still doesn't seem like the norm though. I don't really hold to the idea that bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:10 AM
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The porn you're talking about is mostly watched by women. Porn featuring violence against women is also extremely popular among women. It is far more popular among women than men. I hate saying that because misogynists seem to love this fact. Fantasy life isn't always politically correct. The rate at which women watch violent porn is roughly the same in every part of the world. It isn’t correlated with how women are treated. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addict…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:03 AM
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The "benefits" are BS. Even then, we don't allow FGM because of supposed benefits in that case. https://quillette.com/2017/08/15/female-genital-mutilation-health-benefits-problem-medicalizing-morality/ I was knife raped as an infant and I hate it. If your fiance wants to mutilate his dick right now, there's nothing stopping him. That doesn't give him the right to impose knife rape on all male infants that currently exist.
/r/MensRights18/02/22 05:44 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:13 PM
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None. Meanwhile women's legal privileges include: Greater reproductive rights in men being forced to pay for women's choice. This applies even if the woman rapes the man or boy in question or if it's proven the child isn't his. Privilege in domestic violence policy via the Duluth model and VAWA. Privilege in the criminal justice system. Privilege in divorce courts. Right not to be genitally mutilated. And it's not just today, female privilege has existed for a long time. https://archive.org/deta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:21 AM
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Of course, "inferiority" and "superiority" is subjective. If women see a certain role they are playing in relation to men as being inferior, that is a subjective opinion on their part. That said, it is of understandable how people come to these kinds of subjective judgements as they are based on base axioms that we can't help but value. For example, while it is technically subjective that a society where murder is illegal is superior to a society where murder is legal, it is based on base desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:48 AM
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It's a survey, meaning there is no way to tell if they are lying or telling the truth. Male feminists love to act like women love them even when they don't, it's why they are feminists.
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 12:17 AM
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No, men's sexuality has been called out as being worse than women's since forever. Don't know what you're sniffing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:19 AM

Come up with whatever mental gymnastics you want, you are still saying that advocating men not give their money to women is simping. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:24 PM
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Since most sexual relationships between men and women involve prostitution of some kind, prostitution isn't really "outlawed", just being upfront and honest the exchange is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:33 AM
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The claim that child support is for children and not women is a myth. "First, when paternal custody was the norm, women weren’t expected to pay child support following a divorce. It was created for maternal custody. The basis for it was disparity in potential income, a situation which no longer need be a determining factor in child support awards. It was not out of consideration that a debt was owed to the child, but that the mother could not be counted upon to earn a living the way a man would.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:10 AM
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Simping is when you don't give women money. That's a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:06 AM
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There are plenty of better ways to distribute rich men's wealth than on parasitic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:06 AM

I don't know of anyone who follows onlyfans girls while complaining about them. The main issue most men seem to have is bafflement at why men give these women money for essentially doing nothing while naked when there is free porn online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:58 AM

nope sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:57 AM
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You have no evidence that children are the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:53 AM

“In their mating and migratory habits, liberals are indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan.” - Joe Sobran Same applies to women. This is confirmed by looking not at what they say on polls, but their actual mating and migratory habits. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Race
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:33 AM

Good response to various criticisms: https://odysee.com/@colttaine:d/A-Response-To-Paul-Elam:7
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:50 AM
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Same with women complaining about an "orgasm gap". Men actively try to get orgasms and women don't, then blame the men. It's not because women are so much more selfless or something, it's that men are willing to go out of their way to get what they want, while women expect men to do everything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:45 AM
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This is a pretty crazy case. Despite all her actions, the police and courts sided with her even though she was the abuser towards the men in her life. She was eventually arrested and sent to prison for life for the murder of Dustin Wheaty about a decade after it happened. It was at first thought to be a self defense home invasion, but it turned out to be a murder done to frame her ex husband of trying to kill her.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 09:29 PM
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I clearly said that women very may well have a lower self esteem. I am just saying that this is a motivating factor unique to women. I'm sure men have their own unique motivating factors in different situations as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:55 PM
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Addressing the self esteem thing, women have more of an incentive to play the damsel in distress. The "damsel in distress" is a female specific thing, after all. This is not to say women don't actually have lower self esteem. I can think of plausible reasons why they might. I have no idea if they do or not. My point is just that these results need to be treated with some caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:57 AM
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The short of it is that Jerry Sandusky is innocent. He was the victim of a panic. If you want the details, you need to listen to the podcast episodes and interviews.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 04:13 AM
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I remember reading a feminist paper once that said the reason women are shorter and weaker than men is because they were given less food as children and were more undernourished. Turns out that wasn't true. lol
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:28 AM
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If you count sabotaging condoms as rape, which I've seen many feminists claim, then women commit way more rape than men. It's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:34 PM
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The opposite of what you said? Not sure how it can be interpreted any way else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 05:12 AM
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My comment seems pretty self explanatory. What are you confused by?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:07 PM
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Well my experience contradicts your experience, so that gets us nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:56 PM
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If you mean something like legal parental privileges, whatever those may be, like custody or something, then I agree. But to say that he has no right to interact with his offspring at a later date is not required logically by financial abortions. He has no less right to interact with that person than any random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:53 AM
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The logic for financial abortions is that men should not be on the hook for women's choices. None of this logically entails that you can't interact the product of her choice later. The "biological father" and other random men who are also not responsible are on the same grounding in rights in that they can interact with whoever they want. And the "time frame" argument doesn't work either for the same reason. You are assuming that the default is that the man is responsible and he has to do someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:42 AM
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LOL poor women have it so hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:29 AM
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Oh come on. Careers suck. If I could live life without a career, I would do it in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:00 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:45 AM
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That sentence implies if they didn't choose any side, they would be much better off. So I don't see how this helps anything you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:42 AM
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Yeah I read that. Funny how most of them fought for the "evil racist confederacy" against the "pure good anti racist north".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:39 AM
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Surely you don't think refugees are the only immigrants. also: "Native Americans in the American Civil War participated as individuals, bands, tribes, and nations in numerous skirmishes and battles. 28,693 Native Americans served during the war, mostly in the Confederate military and a minority in the Union." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_American_Civil_War
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:36 AM
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Yeah we just have mass immigration into Western countries and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:30 AM
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I never denied there were lots of problems, but that has nothing to do with anything that was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:25 AM
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I'm not clicking on links like "white men responsible for almost all greatest achievements" tho. We're done here. Are you denying that? It seems pretty obvious that the modern world comes out of inventions made in the west. Even lefties acknowledge that which is why they come out with books like "guns germs and steal" to say it's all geography plus oppression or something. And then with men they say that it's because men oppressed women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:04 AM
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The solution to this is to tell desperate men to stop putting up with parasitic and abusive women and get some self respect, not "you are desperate so put up with terrible women lol". We don't say that to women so I don't see why we should say this to men. Most dates aren't fun for me. Welcome to the male club. Men pressure for sex. "A total of 43 percent of high school boys and young college men reported they had an unwanted sexual experience and of those, 95 percent said a female acquaintance …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 12:31 AM
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Nope, the more "sexually liberated" a woman is, the more likely she is to have rape fantasies. The exact opposite of what you are claiming. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:21 AM
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wut
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:03 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:27 AM
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Men have a lack of reproductive rights, in which birth control is not relevant to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:09 AM
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Oh got it. Most people don't phrase it like that so I guess that confused me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:56 AM
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Push for something that is already legal, then all our issues will be solved. Uh, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:17 AM
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It's men and women. My original post referring to women was shitpoting. Still, women (and men) freak out about the possibility that abortion will be made illegal, no mass hysteria on behalf of us men who have less rights than women in this regard tho. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:47 PM
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yet you comment here curious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:43 PM
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victim of rape https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449454/More-men-raped-US-women-including-prison-sexual-abuse.html http://removeddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/fr5pp3/women_rape_men_at_similar_rates_as_the_reverse/ CEO These CEOs mostly male feminists who promote female supremacy, so I don't get what you're complaining about. More men being at the top has to do with why men excel at all kinds of achievement compared to women. It has nothing to do with women being oppressed. https://ww…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:16 AM
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Yet ya'll are always obsessing over them. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:00 AM
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Men do have less rights and face more discrimination than women in the west. How much has to happen in order for it to be labelled "oppression" is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:03 PM
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Yeah that's not true at all. When everyone tells women not to wear that cute outfit because it's too distracting Dress codes apply to men and women. Men don't wear shorts showing their junk so they are much less likely to be called out. Women are much more likely to dress inappropriately. That's just a fact. I only post here occasionally and don't follow it super intently, so I can't verify what you're saying, but all I'll say is that on the internet there are more places where you'll find pro m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 11:25 PM
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"Boys will be boys" is a thing people say when boys engage in harmless roughhousing, because people understand that boys like to engage in that kind of thing. I have never seen it to excuse other bad behavior. When people say "women can get away with anything" they are obviously being hyperbolic. If you took them literally, we wouldn't have any women in prison at all. Obviously that is not what they are saying. And yeah, jerks exist, and sometimes they are jerks to women. Not sure what the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:44 AM
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The reason many men say this is because they have an image of women in their heads that doesn't line up with reality. Once you take your simp glasses off, women are very easy to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:10 AM
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Hmm... wonder why that could be. Couldn't be based on anything rational, could it? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-REAL-reason-modern-marriages-end-Women-likely-divorce-stay-home-dads-fail-live-breadwinner-stereotype.html
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:17 AM
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Women are more likely to abusive and shitty things to make the marriage go south. This is also backed by stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:21 AM
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women do the same amount of work as men LOL unpaid emotional labor WTF is "emotional labor"? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 06:19 AM
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I think the "envy male success" thing was about the feminists who pushed for it in the first place. Obviously, now we are in a much different position and many women would prefer to stay home and be a housewife, but can't because of economic conditions. Although what you say about women working in the past as well is also true. Although men still had more responsibilities. As for the coronavirus thing, most of those who have lost their jobs are women. This indicates that women's jobs aren't as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:10 PM
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Colttaine had a good video on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw
/r/MGTOW02/10/20 08:55 PM
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Yes, I take men's side on most issues on and I am not ashamed to admit it. The WAW effect doesn't mean EVERYBODY subscribes to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:56 AM
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wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 05:58 AM
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But I demonstrated that that is not the case though. Even after controlling for income differences, men are still more likely to be required to pay women child support or alimony than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:50 AM
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Gender plays no role. Imagine believing this. LMAO https://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-child-support-facts-vs-feminists/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:24 AM
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No it's not. If it was for the kid, the government wouldn't be taking it for themselves when the woman is getting welfare. https://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-child-support-facts-vs-feminists/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:23 AM
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I'm struggling to see where in this post you've disproven hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 12:03 AM
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That's just not true. Men are usually the ones have to pay even if the wife makes the same or more. There are cases where women pay but it's very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:56 PM
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Lawyers say it, that settles it. If you can't trust them, who can you trust? LOL I've literally seen it happen many times. The judge just arbitrarily deems it not fair, then it's thrown out. You're not going to convince me that what I've seen is a "myth". Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:54 PM
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Very convenient for women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:51 PM
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I remember reading a feminist article that argued that the reason women weren't as strong or tall as men was because girls aren't given as much food as boys at a young age. lol
/r/MensRights22/09/20 09:07 PM
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Even the "violent incels" meme is overblown. Plenty of men who have sex also do violence. In fact, men who have sex are more likely to commit violence than incels. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill So really it's not about violence, it's just that not being able to attract women is considered an unforgivable crime since women's wants and desires are deemed most important and any man who doesn't give women what they want must be immoral. When in reality men who don't have sex with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:42 PM
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Even happiness remaining static would indicate something has gone wrong, with all the increase in technology and wealth that should be making us happier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9ssTRQwaA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:31 AM
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This claim that women just had to put up with abusive men in the past is just nonsense. The historical record shows otherwise. https://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/09/domestic-violence-punishment-in.html as for divorce: https://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1913/fraud/chap3.htm https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Legal_Subjection_of_Men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:28 AM
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All the same things can be argued for women but we know you would scream discrimination if it happened. You're not fooling anyone with that shit. The "male powers that be" are mostly female supremacists and feminists. So I don't really care what they excuse. All I am concerned about when it comes to them is to find a way to get them out of power. I absolutely fight for male interests and do what I can to make the best out of things despite these anti male policies. But that doesn't make what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:09 PM
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Not really. Women have reproductive rights men don't have. That and marriage is an oppressive institution for men. Men's rights are restricted more than women's in many more ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:48 AM
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But I thought MRAs were just a bunch of losers who never accomplished anything? LOL
/r/MensRights15/08/20 08:59 AM
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The biological fact that women give birth and men don't is precisely the point. If men also gave birth, the argument wouldn't work. Men shouldn't have to take responsibility for women's choice to give birth since the man wasn't the one who gave birth, the woman was. And you can't use "having sex" as an argument for enforcing responsibility. That was done away with with the legalization of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:20 AM
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I never said I wouldn't use a lawyer if I needed one. They may be scumbags, but if they are working for me, then that's great. But I'm not just going to blindly believe anything they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:24 PM
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Lawyers are lying scumbags. The fact that you take what they say as "proof" of your position is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:14 PM
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"backup" LMAO
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 08:05 PM
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What do you mean "allow" her? This isn't the 1800s boy!
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 08:03 PM
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Probably because it's only their countries being flooded with immigrants of different races? Also white people are the least racist race on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 07:53 PM
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I haven't seen many people saying that except for people on fringe forums trying to be edgy. Most of the time women who say "we don't owe you anything" are engaging in a complete non sequitur. https://incels.wiki/w/Women_don%27t_owe_you_anything However, women feeling entitled to men's support, enforced by laws is a much bigger threat than a few edge lords on a forum. This female entitlement which is constantly consuming has ruined the lives of many men and counting. And that's just the tip of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 10:19 PM
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cut non essential jobs more women lose their jobs than men Hmm...
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 03:48 AM
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The vast majority of men are not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:56 AM
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Notice that these pump and dump men are actually having sex though. So this isn't relevant to the original topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:55 AM
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They clearly aren't amoral when it comes to BDSM and violent porn. And this isn't just an amoral calculation for their own benefit, it is a clear moral issue to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:10 AM
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No, it's not merely a strategy that they don't like violent porn or BDSM. It's a moral thing. It's obvious when reading their threads. If they just said upfront that they don't care about morality, that would be one thing. But all moral proclamations from them are completely hollow seeing as they are obviously very immoral people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:07 AM
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I never said these women were smart. I'm just explaining their motivations. Lots of criminals screw up and become worse off, but that doesn't tell us anything about their motivations. And men are still more likely to get screwed in divorces. This makes these men very upset and explains why the women are happy. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/9126265/Research-finds-women-feel-happy-when-their-husband-or-partner-is-upset.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:03 AM
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Well if they said they don't give a shit about morality or whatever, that would be one thing. But they have a specific moral objection to violent porn and BDSM. Their moral appeals are entirely hollow though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:58 PM
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It's still not 50/50. Men are still more likely to take on more responsibility. I never said most relationships were male breadwinner/female housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:38 PM
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"I only date women who will do whatever I say to avoid abusive women bro. If you have another idea I'd love to hear it." LMAO Go sell that shit to someone who will buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:35 PM
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This isn't about me personally. It's about women justifying their abusive behavior with "he agreed to it" when they would never say that about BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:33 PM
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No woman has ever divorced for goodies. Just doesn't happen. Now this is a big brained take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:32 PM
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Being a parasite while offering nothing is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:30 PM
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This post is further proof that slut shaming comes primarily from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:24 PM
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Oh please, this is such transparent bullshit. This is like if a guy said he was only dating women who did whatever he said only to avoid bad women. I can see through what you're saying just as easily as a guy saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:00 PM
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Porn featuring violence against women is also extremely popular among women. It is far more popular among women than men. I hate saying that because misogynists seem to love this fact. Fantasy life isn't always politically correct. The rate at which women watch violent porn is roughly the same in every part of the world. It isn’t correlated with how women are treated. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies If there is a genre of porn in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:58 PM
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Well again, I can say the same about BDSM. In my experience, a lot of women are way more into being dominated than men are in dominating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:15 AM
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I'm just saying that agreeing to get resources drained from you is obviously worse than being hit if you agree to it. Now of course it depends on the severity. But in general my statement holds up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:04 AM
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But you do say it's bad, regardless of consent. Likewise, I would say the parasitical nature of FDS is bad. I'm not here to convince you that being a parasite is bad. It's in your self interest, after all. But it's funny how "he agrees to it" is literally the only defense they can appeal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:01 AM
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You are being dishonest by pretending this is only about the first date. We both know it's not. It's for more than that. I've browsed FDS, so don't even try bullshitting me on that. And again, you keep appealing to the fact that these men are agreeing to it. Everything you say there could be said about BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:46 AM
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At least when you hit someone in bed who agrees to it, you're not taking anything from them. Males getting exploited by female parasites results in tangible losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:32 AM
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Right, because women are morally retarded and can't get past stage 3 of moral development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development#Androcentrism No one said anything about forcing anything, but there could be strong social norms that promote fairness. There's lots of things that we look down on as immoral but aren't illegal. If someone's being a douchebag, him saying "I have the legal right!!!" is retarded. That's not the issue. Try to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:30 AM
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So you want something traditional where the man is chivalrous and the man pays, but you are also financially independent and don't submit to his authority. Sorry, that's just outright parasitism. You can justify it however you want, but that's what it is. Then there's the factor that we are generally more vulnerable to sexual assault and other types of assault when dating, compared to men. Women are more likely to assault their partners than men. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:58 AM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:54 AM
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I'm just saying that when they promote behavior that is obviously abusive they deflect with "oh well we're just weeding out men who don't want it so I don't see why it's a big deal".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:46 AM
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I'm not saying parasitism is always morally bad. Besides, kids can grow up to contribute something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:44 AM
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Yeah that's my entire point. Which is why their defense of being parasites because of "consent" doesn't hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:26 AM
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Killed, sure. Raped, not so clear. But yeah, women are attracted to thugs and criminals which is why there are more male criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:24 AM
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They can monkeybranch to someone else plus goodies from divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:18 AM
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But engaging in BDSM with a woman who wants it is bad according to FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:18 AM
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on rape: http://removeddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/fr5pp3/women_rape_men_at_similar_rates_as_the_reverse/ on gender deaths: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.5042/jacpr.2010.0141/full/html Men do more labor, especially to create civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:17 AM
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To get even more goodies from the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:48 AM
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Their labor and lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:44 AM
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This has nothing to do with my personal views, I'm just pointing out hypocrisy. But let me answer your question. Women are already more privileged and parasitical than men. FDS encourages women to find ways to be even more privileged and parasitical. Women usually benefit the most in relationships. TRP just tilts the scale a little bit in the other direction. So it's not comparable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:42 AM
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I didn't say it wasn't true. Read my comments again. Men sacrifice way more for women than vice versa and I provided evidence. You just can't handle facts apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:38 AM
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except if they watch violent porn of do BDSM
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:35 AM
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When a woman loses the argument, call your opponent an incel. Happens every time. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:31 AM
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Porn featuring violence against women is also extremely popular among women. It is far more popular among women than men. I hate saying that because misogynists seem to love this fact. Fantasy life isn't always politically correct. The rate at which women watch violent porn is roughly the same in every part of the world. It isn’t correlated with how women are treated. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies If there is a genre of porn in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:28 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:26 AM
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But the male's only input to the child coming to existence is pre conception, which is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:25 AM
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Of course women are less likely to leave a cancer husband, they are less of a burden. Guess you don't like facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:24 AM
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That's why women are marrying older men who have more money. Protection doesn't just apply to other men. Women are more likely to abuse their partners in relationships than men. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ Men love women more than men. This is seem for the actual sacrifices men make for women that will never be matched by women. You can do whatever surveys or brain scans you want. It's all irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:10 AM
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It's not something the state should be involved in, as it is pre conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:44 AM
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That's all pre conception though, which I've already shown is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:43 AM
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No argument. Just the same old debunked "keep it in your pants" mantra.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:37 AM
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That makes the fact that they watch violent porn more than men even more lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:27 AM
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"Men who state facts are loser incels." k
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:25 AM
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They're not attracted to those men though. They just use them for resources while fucking a chad on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:24 AM
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Nope, pre conception is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:23 AM
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That's more benefit than she deserves tbh. She chose to give birth and then the state forces men to bail her out of her irresponsible decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:20 AM
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Again, this post isn't about me personally, it's about the men who "consent" to it. love, companionship, ... regular sex, maybe marriage and children Yeah he's definitely gonna get that from the entitled parasites from FDS. financial support LMAO This is the funniest one. If there is anything FDS advocates, it's 50/50 financial relationships. Give me a break. Also, if you are both giving each other those things, but you're still extracting resources from him, that is still an exploitative relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:18 AM
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Yeah, she can do what she wants post conception, but it doesn't make sense to make any other man pay for it when it's her choice alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:06 AM
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Calm down, I'm not talking about where abortion is illegal. It's legal where I am, so that's what I'm talking about. If women can unilaterally choose to give birth or abort, it makes no sense to force him to pay for her choice to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:05 AM
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"Actively choosing to conceive" happens pre conception. Pre conception is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:01 AM
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Pre conception actions are what lead to conception. Pre conception actions are irrelevant because of the legalization of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:59 PM
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Paying money leads to sex later. That is literally what a whore is. Not sure what's so difficult to grasp about this concept. A person looking at a woman being a parasite, exploiting men for resources, and giving nothing in return could definitely be seen as abusive by some people. Oh but it's all consensual like BDSM so it's OK I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:57 PM
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So you can just assert shit without evidence but if I present a bunch of studies, that's bad somehow. LOL But I have. Men are exploited for resources by women. But that's just a natural biological condition that will probably never change, so I've learned to live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:53 PM
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But that only refers to pre conception act though, which is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:51 PM
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LOL That's a joke. Men by far make more money than women. Women are far from being bread winners. Relationships where a woman is the breadwinner or responsibility is shared 50/50 is very rare. The data I provided shows women gain happiness from marriage. You said you didn't want to look at it, which is fine, but then you shouldn't be talking about "what the data says".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:35 PM
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That is the result of pre conception actions though, which is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:31 PM
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You can cope all you want, but if money is required to eventually get sex, that makes you a whore. I don't get what's so controversial here. Presumably you agree with the FDS women that BDSM and violent sex is bad even if women consent to it. It's the same in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:31 PM
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Financial is the main one. Both men and women who get married are more happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:28 PM
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This isn't about the men who are lucky enough to avoid FDS women. This is about the men who "consent" to it. But FDS doesn't think consent is a valid excuse. So this is all completely irrelevant to my point. The fact is, FDS exchanges money for sex. Oh sure, they may have some other hoops to put him through after him paying the money, but it's still the ultimate endpoint. So "whore" is an accurate description of the women of FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:15 PM
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This is just false. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSULDilYcqE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:12 PM
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Nope. Women are the more parasitic gender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:54 PM
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No, it's the child the woman chose to give birth to. Pre conception acts are irrelevant as has already been decided with the legalization of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:49 PM
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broke: "here's how Bernie can still win" woke: "here's how women can still not be more sexually depraved than men" cope harder lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:42 PM
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Women: Demand men pay them so maybe they'll eventually put out. Also women: How dare you call me a whore!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:35 PM
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Tipping the scales to not benefit women as much would be more accurate, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:30 PM
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Men are currently legally required to take responsibility for women's choice to give birth. So even taking all the social expectations out of it and looking solely at legal statutes, men are getting the shitty end of the stick. But then you look at the social expectations, women's freedoms have gone up and responsibilities down. Men's social freedoms and responsibilities may have changed somewhat, but not nearly to the same extent as women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:29 PM
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Should men have women pay a fee to make sure they don't get abused? This is post hoc bullshit rationalization of parasitism. And don't pretend this is a one time thing. I don't feel like searching for it right now, but I know FDS does not view this as a one off thing never to be repeated. You know this is bullshit. Rape fantasies almost certainly correlate with watching violent porn and being into BDSM, and the data doesn't say what you're saying. Around 15% of women who have these fantasies hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:23 PM
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Porn featuring violence against women is also extremely popular among women. It is far more popular among women than men. I hate saying that because misogynists seem to love this fact. Fantasy life isn't always politically correct. The rate at which women watch violent porn is roughly the same in every part of the world. It isn’t correlated with how women are treated. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies If there is a genre of porn in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:13 PM
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"If I can't parasite, I will just be abused." This is what women actually believe. I don't deny a disproportionate amount of women who are into BDSM are abused, but it is not nearly all of it by far. You think all the women who bought Fifty Shades of Grey were abused? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:00 PM
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It should be no news for you how men can plate woman for sex by making them try to get some attention, and eventually providing it in the right, scarce dosage. Men can use women as Sex-Plates, because they have something that women want: attention. Well, woman do exactly the same with men, but in a reverse way: they plate men for attention by making them try to get some sexual intimacy, and eventually providing it in the right, scarce dosage (not even going further than a peck on the cheek will …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:56 PM
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I don't agree with the official TRP subreddit on everything. If that's how the people on that sub see it, then they are delusional. In almost every relationship, the woman is getting more benefit than the man. If you think you are "getting one up" on a woman in a relationship, then you are probably being taken for a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:53 PM
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It should be no news for you how men can plate woman for sex by making them try to get some attention, and eventually providing it in the right, scarce dosage. Men can use women as Sex-Plates, because they have something that women want: attention. Well, woman do exactly the same with men, but in a reverse way: they plate men for attention by making them try to get some sexual intimacy, and eventually providing it in the right, scarce dosage (not even going further than a peck on the cheek will …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:49 PM
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This is what women have been doing for centuries. We've been doing lots of things for centuries. You really want to go back to all that? It's a weeding-out tactic. If you don't want to pay that's fine, just realize you're exactly the man they're trying to weed out. This isn't about the men lucky enough to be weeded out by parasites. This is about the men who "consent" to it. But FDS has already established that consent is irrelevant. Nah this absolutely does not come from men lmao. This is inbor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:45 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:38 PM
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Yeah, "just one dinner". Sure. You think I buy that bullshit? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:34 PM
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If it's about "proving commitment" for later on, then really it is men who should be demanding women pay for the first date to prove that they will commit. Because right now, it's not men who aren't putting their finances in, it's women. If being into violent porn and BDSM makes you a depraved human being, than women are much more depraved than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:32 PM
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Women are more emotionally parasitic than men in long term relationships. But oh you took advantage of her emotions for a short period of time to get a one night stand. What a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:26 PM
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My point is that most relationships benefit women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:23 PM
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"Oh no you took my emotions." k
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:21 PM
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Women like sex. That isn't parasitism. Men also aren't draining them of resources. Women can always get more emotions. Resources are scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:20 PM
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Ah yes. FDS, the known advocates of 50/50 financial partnerships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:15 PM
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Ah yes, FDS totally advocates 50/50 financial partnerships. LMAO Who are you trying fool? Many males who have been abused by females could end up being taken advantage of by female parasites. So the same issue applies. Also, you trying to convince us that female sexual depravity is all about being abused and not just normal female sexuality is cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:14 PM
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To out parasite women is nearly impossible. This isn't about justifying anything, it's just about being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:05 PM
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Male sexual strategy is about tipping the scales so female benefits aren't as lopsided. We don't advocate male parasitism. Any man who does try a strategy like that is not going to get very far. You can't out parasite women. At least that's how I see it. This isn't about my personal views on FDS. This is merely pointing out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:01 PM
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Most relationships are in women's best interest. All men can achieve is tipping the scales a bit, so women's benefits aren't as lopsided as they can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:51 PM
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Well, the main issue I wanted to bring up was the consent issue. According to FDS's own logic, consent is irrelevant. So the "his fault" thing is neither here nor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:47 PM
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Being a parasite is definitely in the parasite's best interest, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:40 PM
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Well if you're going to use somebody then yes that would be bad and reflect poorly on your own character. Expecting a guy to be stable and pay for the dates he invites you on isn't using though. It's just dinner. If the cost of dinner is unaffordable for a woman or impacts her finances in any noticeable way then she needs to work on finances first. If a man struggles to pay for a meal then there's a big issue there. I wouldn't invite a friend over for dinner and ask them to pay for their share o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:32 PM
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Most of you over there say that violent porn or BDSM is bad even if the woman consents to it. (Even though it's women who are more into that than men. But I'll leave that aside for now.) Likewise, the one way female parasitism of male hosts that FDS promotes is objectively bad even if the male "consents" to it by the same logic. And make no mistake, it is female parasitism that FDS promotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:10 PM
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LOL This is pathetic. The actual "work" isn't actually work as shown in the video. It doesn't matter how much longer you think it is. The unpaid work men do at home, while shorter, is at least actual work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:58 PM
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debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:02 AM
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debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:01 AM
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debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:01 AM
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No, you justified the existence of the Duluth model for a certain time in the past, not merely "explain the history". Where is the evidence that police departments had a policy of not arresting domestic abusers? The CDC thing you linked looks at lifetime. Last 12 months are more reliable. The blog I linked has many peer reviewed sources. The point was that I responded to your claim that Duluth wasn't meant to oppress men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:30 AM
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I didn’t say men were never punished cops were not allowed to intervene in a domestic dispute and women ended up disfigures and dead because of it This is completely contradictory. Cops weren't allowed to intervene in domestic violence situations, but I'm not denying that men got punished!!! wut It's funny how you started out saying feminism and private prisons have nothing to do with each other, but now you are making all these justifications for harsher arrest policies against men. Or at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:46 AM
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But I disproved that though. I gave a bunch of examples of men being punished for committing domestic violence going all the way back to the 19th century. And what about male victims? Even if you were right about that, men were victims that were being ignored. So how does that justify the gendered duluth model?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:29 PM
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I can show you examples of cops not doing their jobs properly for all sorts of crimes. I don't see how this is specific to domestic violence. I also gave a bunch of examples of men in the past being punished for domestic violence, which included flogging. I brought up male victims because the duluth model denies their existence. I don't see why it was ever necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:48 PM
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a time where men beat their wives in front of police who were not allowed to arrest them Oh come on. This is completely ridiculous. http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/10/societys-acceptance-of-domestic.html http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/11/19th-century-intolerance-towards.html http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2013/03/treatment-of-domestic-violence-against.html And what about male victims? They were punished for being victims of domestic violence. The duluth model says they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:41 PM
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https://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-child-support-facts-vs-feminists/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:15 AM
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VAWA and the duluth model promoted by feminists definitely put a lot more men in prison. So I would say private prisons and feminism dovetails with each other quite nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:14 AM
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"the American people are tired of women" - Bernie Sanders
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:22 AM
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Well since men are expected to take responsibility for all the bad things men do, I figured it's only fair that we take responsibility for the good things as well. Turns out, when you weight the good things and bad things, men have done far more good for the world than bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:30 AM
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lmao cope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:37 AM
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The incels do the opposite of cope. They look at the facts as they are, even if that means it shows how they aren't attractive to women. The data speaks for itself. Women of all races love BWC. Keep coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:18 AM
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Nah, it's you that's coping bruh. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Race
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:33 AM
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Yeah women have never been for that arrangement ever, only men. You sound smart. And why are you only focusing on the military. There's plenty of other privileges women have that are caused by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:42 PM
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I wish more women acted like you, instead of pretending they are put upon by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:14 PM
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Gathering was left to the women because it's easy. Meat was essential for the tribe's survival, and it was harder to do so men did it. It was much more work. Sure, the women got "more stuff" but that's just because they are staying behind with more time to gather stuff. All women had to do to gather it is just pick it off from wherever it was and move right along to the next one. Whereas hunting a single animal takes more time. But it is still just as essential. But lets go with what you're sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:10 PM
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There's a whole section on female privilege that results from feminist activism. I don't care if you want to call it "patriarchy" or "tfyfuvygu" for all I care. It is still female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:03 PM
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Just click the x He definitely goes into more than that, like the facts of recent fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:01 PM
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The men who do bad things like violence also aren't us, yet you blame all men. But we can't take credit for the good things men do. The logical gender, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:55 PM
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This cope was addressed in the video I posted. Women are given privileges over men now and still don't contribute nearly as much as men. Women also seem to be holding back progress now. https://vdare.com/articles/are-women-destroying-academia-probably
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:52 PM
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These legal privileges: http://www.realsexism.com/ No, men are not dependent on women like women are dependent on men. This is not a two way street. This is a one way dependence of female parasitism. And I'm not using parasitism in a good or bad way, it's just a fact and it will probably never change. Women contribute a little bit, but it is by no means equal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:49 PM
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Well, you types seem to be more than willing to assign collective responsibility for the bad things. But now you don't want to give collective credit for the good things. If you weigh the good and bad men have done, the good outweighs the bad by far. Men's sperm is also required for birth. Google "woman gives in coma". You expect me to be impressed with that? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:41 PM
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Well the OP didn't specify what kind of privilege, but women do in fact have legal privileges over men. Women are not independent from men. Their existence in society depends on the labor of men. This plus the legal privileges women have can definitely make some men bitter. Most men are still just simps though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:35 PM
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Feminism in the real world is about taking away men's rights. NOW opposing shared default custody is one of many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:54 PM
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The argument the OP was making was that female privilege is necessary to avoid women being dependent on men. This necessarily means that equality will result in women being below men because women are inferior. Is that really the argument you want to go with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:53 PM
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No, women are currently privileged. The OP admits this but says it's necessary to avoid being dependent on men. This necessarily means that equality isn't enough because the inferiority of women will still cause them to be below men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:51 PM
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note: this only works if you're chad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:24 AM
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If women are just as capable as men, then they shouldn't need female privilege to avoid being dependent on men. You are literally admitting that women are less capable than men and thus inferior to men. And because of this inferiority of women, you need special privileges to be "equal". This is the most pathetic argument for feminism I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:19 AM
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But gotta to keep those abortion rights tho. Deadbeat moms killing their babies to get out of taking care of a kid is a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:13 AM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:08 PM
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LMAO Google "woman gives birth in coma" and then come back to me to tell me how much of a "sacrifice" it is. Men are working more than women to provide a roof over the kid's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:11 PM
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LOL Women's "unpaid domestic work" is a joke. All the unpaid work at home that is actually work is mostly done by men. Also, men having a career is a sacrifice. Careers aren't fun. Women complaining about "sacrificing their career" are basically complaining about "sacrificing their sacrifice" which makes no sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:09 PM
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You can do all kind of surveys or brain scans to try and figure out who's more empathetic, but it's nowhere near reliable as measuring who takes action more. Men come out further than women on action based empathy by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:04 PM
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this is completely delusional lmao men have sacrificed way more for women than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:41 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:39 AM
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Nah. While I think all feminism is dumb, "white feminism" is the closest to reality. All the attacks on "white feminism" is just based on anti-white racial hatred. Prove me wrong. https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/09/the-war-against-white-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:27 AM
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I don't mind helping out the homeless. They need the money way more than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:18 AM
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no u
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:14 AM
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Nope, they exempt women so they should exempt men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:15 AM
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What is biologically possible is not relevant. The state can choose not to hold him responsible. That's all that's being asked. If women can opt out, so should men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:56 AM
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But women can opt out. Men should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:53 AM
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It's entirely possible for men to opt out post conception if the law allows it. You are really dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:04 AM
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No, that doesn't make it any more relevant for him. We gave her the right to opt out post conception and so should he. Pre conception actions are irrelevant, the man isn't involved in the pregnancy, therefore he has no responsibility for the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:30 AM
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No I mean it's irrelevant for if they have to become responsible for it. The direct cause of her being responsible is choosing to give birth. Pre conception actions are irrelevant for her since she can get out of it post conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:21 AM
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Because we've already decided that is the case for women. I'm just extending it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:12 AM
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Nope and I've already explained why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:11 AM
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Not if it's pre conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:07 AM
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But pre conception actions aren't relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:06 AM
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That doesn't make it relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:05 AM
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Yes, only women deal with pregnancy, so the outcome is on them. Thank you for proving me right again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:04 AM
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You can't just link to a blog and say "yep, it's all debunked now". Sure I can. There are multiple studies that show that racial and gender discrimination do exist. The studies on racial discrimination have already been debunked. It's probably the same for gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:51 PM
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Pre conception is already irrelevant for women. I'm just extending it to men. I've already been over the arguments and they remain unrefuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:49 PM
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You haven't refuted any of my arguments. So my statement still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:48 PM
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No it doesn't. These kinds of studies have publication bias and are thus bogus. At least the ones with racial discrimination. It's probably that way with gender discrimination too. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/05/20/on-racial-discrimination-in-hiring/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:44 PM
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Yeah they are and I already explained why. Come up with something new or leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:35 PM
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Nope, pre conception is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:35 PM
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Yes, men are not involved in pregnancy, therefore they have no responsibility. Thank you for proving my point again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:09 PM
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Nope, pre conception actions are irrelevant regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:07 PM
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Nope, pre conception actions aren't relevant to them regardless. Their involvement is pregnancy has nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:06 PM
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It doesn't matter for the argument. Yes, the government has decided to hold the biological father accountable, but they have no justification for that. The reason for the kid existing pre conception doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:39 AM
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Him being the biological father is irrelevant because that involves pre conception acts. We've already been over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:36 AM
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Getting her pregnant is a pre conception act, so it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:34 AM
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Yes, she is responsible because it was her choice to give birth, not his. Welcome to being a grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:47 AM
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You were saying awhile ago that financial abortion will "force" women to do things they don't want. Now it's nothing and has no effect on what choice a woman will make. LMAO Contraceptives are irrelevant. There is no justification for forcing a man to pay for a woman's choice. If by "preventing being a father" you just mean in the biological sense, sure a man can't do anything post conception about that. But that's irrelevant. The cause of him being the biological father has to do with his pre c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:44 AM
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It doesn't matter how it's decided which man will pay child support. The fact is, the state has no more justification for holding the biological father responsible than a man picked out from a lottery. The fact that men men can't control women's bodies is precisely my point. If they did, then my argument wouldn't work. So thanks for proving my point yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:58 PM
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This isn't about me saying I should control what she should do. This is about where responsibility lies. The fact that men can't control what women do proves my point. If men did control women's bodies, then my argument would be refuted. So you are just deeply confused about what is even being argued here. Him being a father is irrelevant since it is already established that pre conception activities are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:56 PM
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There is an analogous comparison between abortion and being free of obligations from child support. Obviously they aren't the same thing but one can be used to justify the other as I've already explained. Pre conception is not a rational justification for the law. Just because they use it doesn't mean it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:23 AM
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It doesn't matter if he's the father or not though. With the legalization of abortion, the state now just arbitrarily decides to hold the father accountable with no rational justification. So it being "his child" is completely irrelevant. All that matters is whether he has a say in the birth of the child post conception. Since he doesn't, he has no responsibility to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:21 PM
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It's her choice to give birth, so he is bailing her out of the consequences of her choice. That's just a basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:19 PM
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If women cared more about men's achievements than vice versa, then they would acknowledge that most contributions to civilization come from men. Instead, they say that they're equal at best or even better at worst. The same goes for men. Most men say that men and women are equal, even though this has no basis in reality. This is downplaying men's accomplishments and up playing women's accomplishments. With this information I don't see how you can say the reverse is the truth, unless you literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:08 PM
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Many women complain that women don't have as many orgasms as men. And it is true that there is an "orgasm gap" between men and women. But this is just simple biology. Once a man busts his nut, it's over. He goes limp and you'll have to wait to get hard again, which could be awhile. Sometimes the man cums first, sometimes not. It's not a conscious act on his part to be selfish, it's just that if you don't take this biological reality into account or don't think about it, women are going to be lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:56 PM
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For red pillers, the wall. The only grain of truth "the wall" has is that older men can have children while older women can't. But that's where it ends. Both men and women become less attractive when they get older, but older women still have an easier time getting sex than older men. The idea that women age badly whereas men age "like wine" is a cope that is only true for a small subset of men who can get enough resources to override their declining attractiveness. It doesn't apply to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:48 PM
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Nah criminals have asshole tendencies for sure. And this applies to criminals too. Just read the data I provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:34 AM
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I already linked it bro. Criminals are getting laid more than the average man. That's just a fact. No need to be salty about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:27 AM
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The data shows that criminals get laid. Are you retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:17 AM
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That is false. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill And I'm supposed to be impressed that criminals in jail that most people don't know about aren't getting fan mail? lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:55 AM
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Meanwhile, criminals and thugs are getting their dick wet more than the average man. Cool story, but your words aren't going to change much. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:32 AM
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Here's some sources: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:30 AM
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Just because 2 things aren't the same thing doesn't mean you can't use one thing to justify another. That is so stupid. That's like saying "murder and being in prison aren't the same thing, so you can't use one to justify the other". That's just retarded. And you can repeat your wrong opinion all you want, but it's still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:16 AM
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Nope, I'm only saying men shouldn't be forced to bail out women for their irresponsible decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:13 AM
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No, the direct cause is her choosing to give birth. If you want to go into a bunch of other causes leading up to that, you can go to the beginning of the universe. But none of that is relevant to the actual issue, which is responsibility. And the fact that he has no say means he's not responsible. The more you keep repeating that he has no control in that area, the more you prove me right. If he did have a say, only then would he be responsible, but he doesn't so he's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:12 AM
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It's mostly women who put no effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:21 PM
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If men don't want custody, why are feminist organizations like NOW so desperate to not allow joint custody? If men don't want it, there should be no fear that it will happen. Yet they fight tooth and nail to not allow it. Very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:19 PM
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We can go back to the beginning of time to look for causes that made him a father. It's all irrelevant. All that's relevant is that she chose to give birth, the man had no say in that choice, so now he has no responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:14 PM
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I'm not the one asking to be bailed out for my choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:12 PM
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Wow, thank you for the revelation that child support and abortion aren't the same thing. You have truly enlightened me. lol Women's choice to have an abortion has implications for if men are responsible for the child when it is born. And you still can't help but bring up irrelevant pre conception actions. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:12 PM
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From the article you cited: The researchers also examined whether participants’ ratings of others level of attractiveness depended on their own level of self-perceived attractiveness. They found that it did, but only for men. Men who rated themselves as more attractive were more likely to rate others (both women and men) as more attractive. Women, on the other hand, showed no such difference. It looks like this is just a by product of men being more generous (in this particular area) than women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:32 PM
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I'm a pretty tall guy so this isn't personal. But short men tend to be healthier than tall men. So women are literally making each generation less and less healthy by mating with tall men. It made sense in our evolutionary history though. Tall men were more likely to be able to defend the tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:20 PM
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Around 30-40% of women murdered are murdered by partners. That's not "more likely".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:16 PM
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Right, it's about showing SHE is important. It's all about her and catering to her narcissism. Emotional vampires.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:52 PM
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Men are more willing to provide women more "emotional support", material support, and sex than women are to men. This just shows women's entitled attitude. Take everything and give nothing. Then complain you are not doing enough for her. It's parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:43 PM
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Patriarchy created the conditions to create an advanced civilization like ours. https://www.bitchute.com/video/U6szSkwXbVo/ More advanced civilizations can have more room to experiment with maladaptive ideas like feminism, so pointing to some kind of correlation between feminism and better life outcomes is kind of dumb. Many women like to mate with thugs and criminals, so their influence isn't making men "better". I would say it's more likely that men being under the guidance of other men makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:49 AM
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You have some balls, I'll give you that. When I was in school, I just never said or wrote anything that could even slightly be construed as politically incorrect.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 08:35 PM
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Wealthy countries have more room to play with maladaptive ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:31 AM
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Of course, because you are a baby that doesn't want to be held accountable for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:34 PM
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The fact that he's not involved is what makes him not responsible. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:33 PM
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Nope, fair is fair regardless of what most people think or what the law says. I have no doubt that the people making abortion legal weren't thinking about child support at the time. Too bad, that doesn't mean it doesn't have implications for child support. It does. If a woman makes a unilateral decision to have a child, it makes no sense to force any man to pay for it. She made her choice. Whatever led up to that choice is irrelevant. It's all on her now. Of course, the people writing the law we…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:32 PM
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It's all a shit test. Women act in a certain way to get men to put them in their place. Even feminist women want a dominant man to submit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:31 AM
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Nah I don't mind hearing this. It's funny reading things that have no evidence for which the only purpose is pure cope. Yeah, I'm sure all the women reading 50 shades of grey are just secret men, right? LMAO They have to make women out to be just as disgusting in sexuality as men are bc that gives them the right to do things women don't want done to them, of course. Women's sexuality is MORE disgusting. It's men who are doing things they don't really want to do. Men may have a higher sex drive, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:55 PM
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Sex drive is not the same thing as what kind of sexual fantasies you have. Men have a stronger sex drive, but women's actual sexuality is way more depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:48 PM
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I don't doubt the existence of pervert trannies. But you have literally no evidence that all of the women watching violent porn are actually men. Yeah, I'm sure all the women buying 50 shades of grey were all just secret men, right? You have literally no evidence for any of this. This is such a cope. LMAO Men may have a higher sex drive, but women's sexuality is way more depraved than men's. Also, Louis CK is retarded. This is someone who apologized for masturbating in front of women who consent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:43 PM
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The crime rate shot up in the 60s and just started recovering in the 90s. I don't think being back where we were before the 60s is that impressive. With all the technology we have now, the fact that it's not lower really does seem to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:42 PM
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Could it be that feminists are right and that femininity is more limiting than masculinity? Female potential is more limited than male potential because of biology, not because of any socially imposed femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:24 AM
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I mean lets face it. Men outshine women when it comes to a lot of things. It's why many women hate men. Despite all the social and legal disadvantage men have, many of these innate qualities make a lot of women very jealous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaa64Ol_wTg
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:12 AM
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Yeah, the law should change. Just like the law was changed with abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:07 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:06 AM
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Pre conception choices are irrelevant. I'll just keep repeating this until you come up with a new argument that hasn't been debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:06 AM
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The laws that exist have consequences. All I need to know is the consequences of these laws and what implication these laws have for the rights of other people. Someone may write a law not knowing what the implications of that law may be. In fact, I bet there's a good chance that if the judges on the Supreme Court knew the implications abortion legalization would have for child support, they may not have done it. Or they may have done it anyway and just try not to think about it much. In fact, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:04 AM
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No one cares about the deep thoughts of people who write laws. LMAO All that matters is that the laws exist and what the consequences of these laws will be. All that matters is that the legalization of abortion means that pre conception activities are irrelevant. This means that men are held responsible not because they had sex, but because the state just decided to hold this certain man responsible. They literally have no justification for it no matter what they say. I haven't looked too deeply…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:53 AM
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Have you read Andrew Anglin? He definitely doesn't see women, white or otherwise, in a very positive light. Although I can see why you would have that view. There are many white nationalists and "alt right" people who are simps and white knights. It's pretty disgusting. For example, with the Harvey Weinstein thing, many of them could not get over how they don't like the Jew Harvey Weinstein to look at his trial objectively. Now there are many things I personally don't like about Harvey Weinstein…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:59 PM
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Yeah there's no kid because she killed it. If she chooses not to kill it then whatever happens to the kid after that is on her. Men are justified in aborting their responsibility to the kid, since she didn't abort the kid when she could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:51 PM
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OK pro lifer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:49 PM
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That's just a subjective arbitrary view that a fetus doesn't count as a kid or person. If you want to have an argument against abortion, stick with Judith Jarvis Thomson's violin argument. This other argument is just retarded. You just keep repeating yourself with the same debunked arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:48 PM
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"MUH SIFFICIENT CAUSE!!!!" Come up with something new, will you? Pre conception acts are irrelevant. That has been decided. You just want men to pay for your irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:51 PM
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Apparently children's rights aren't everything. Legal abortion has made that clear. There are some things more important than children's rights. So don't come whining to me with "but what about muh children". You already think there are more important things than that. One prevents someone from being born the other takes away something from someone who is born. Abortion kills a kid. That takes something away from them. If women can kill it, men can abandon it. And yes, abandoning a kid isn't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:49 PM
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Yes they are. Abortion is the only action that prevents the fetus from being born a child. And that is the only way for a parent to no longer be held accountable. LOL You are literally retarded. Get this, you can also make someone not responsible by legally not holding them responsible. Wow, that was a hard one. If there is no child born there is no one to be accountable to, but if a child is born they must be cared for. "If I choose to have a kid I need a man to bail me out because I am literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:52 PM
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Pre conception actions are relevant to the MAN because he has no part in the actions post conception and pre birth as all of those stages take place literally inside a woman’s body. Exactly. He has no say in the abortion process, therefore he has no responsibility. That's exactly what does make it irrelevant. Sufficient cause is irrelevant. Once she is pregnant, it's entirely on her after that. You didn’t debunk anything you actually just sound really stupid. "WAH!! I WANT TO HOLD MEN RESPONSIBL…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:40 PM
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The claim that women are oh so burdened with so much "housework" is laughably false. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C69ruNWO7PM https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:44 AM
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Yea and you know what she can’t do, sign some paper work that allows her to “abort” the child after they are born, in any sense. Already covered. The fact that she can opt out post conception is all that matters. Who cares why they get it? (there’s literally thousands of reasons why a woman might get an abortion one of which is that the pregnancy places her health/life at risk — but obviously its all a conspiracy against men to make them “wage slaves” 🙄). That’s irrelevant to the reason as to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:27 AM
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And fine even if you want to argue that the cause of pregnancy is irrelevant (which makes no sense since no one can give birth without first being pregnant) that doesn’t change the fact that the father is the father, the baby in question has half their genes. "Fine if you want to argue that the cause of the pregnancy is irrelevant, but it's relevant." lol The rest is STILL going over pre conception actions. You are like a broken record. I debunk the idea that pre conception events are relevant a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:16 AM
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Abortion results in women to opt out after conception has happed. All your bloviating can't get around that fact. Yea except we aren’t talking about what is sufficient to cause a pregnancy but rather what is sufficient to create a child who is born, what is sufficient cause a man to become a father, that very thing which makes him legally obligated. Pregnancy IS the "sufficient" cause for a child be born. But I've already established that the cause of the pregnancy is irrelevant. So you're just …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:15 AM
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As the law currently stands neither parent has the option of opting out once the child is born. Men and women both can be sued for child support. So what you want is for men to have special privileges not “equal rights”. LOL This is some chutzpah. No, men having the right to opt out post conception just like women do is equal rights, not special privileges for men. The fact that it's actually you arguing for special privileges for women makes this even more funny. Easy for you to say since you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:14 AM
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They are the father of that child because their sperm made the pregnancy and subsequent birth possible, the child is biologically their child. So what? It's also the woman's in that case, yet she still gets an out with abortion. Actually it does because you justify your position by the legality of abortion. Why the state allows abortion in the first place is completely relevant to your position, and it’s not for the reasons you claim or believe so you can’t defend your position by saying “well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:35 AM
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A child is only born because the woman makes a unilateral choice not to abort. So it is really only her responsibility. And women can opt out by having an abortion. It doesn't matter what the state does or doesn't consider abortion. The reality is that it gives women an out post conception. You have not once given a justification for why it is ok to force a man to pay for a woman's choice to give birth. The only justification I can seem to come up with is that you are a female supremacist, but y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:25 PM
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I thought catcalling was the most horrible thing ever and a huge epidemic. Hmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:55 PM
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OK, then men opting out of paying child support is a "consequence of pre conception acts". In fact, everything people have done is the result of pre conception acts. What a dumb point. The point is that abortion has made pre conception acts irrelevant in terms of responsibility. That's what this is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:51 PM
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Pre conception acts are irrelevant as has been decided with the legalization of abortion. You are basically whining about women having to face the consequences of their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:56 PM
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What does that mean? Pregnancy is a consequence of sex. It's already been decided with the legalization of abortion that that is irrelevant. I’m pretty sure if most women could choose between getting pregnant and having an abortion and not getting pregnant at all they would choose the latter. That doesn't seem to be true to me at all. I've seen many cases of women very excited about their abortions. They seem to get some kind of thrill from it. But that's not really relevant. The fact is, pregna…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:53 PM
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Hell, I don't expect most MEN to care about the issues men face. So I'm sure as hell not going to expect anything of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:00 PM
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How is that "abuse" of the law? That's just using a perfectly legal option to get a desired outcome that you want. The original purpose of something is kind of irrelevant. The results it brings about are irrelevant. For example, whatever the purpose of the war on drugs is doesn't matter. Even if the original goal is to lower drug use, if it doesn't have that result, then the original purpose is meaningless. Likewise, all that is relevant here is that it does give women a way out of taking care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:20 AM
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Yes, it absolutely is about that. You think women never have abortions to avoid taking care of a kid? How laughable. And even if something is not the "actual purpose" of implementing a certain policy, that doesn't mean that it doesn't have other consequences that had nothing to do with the original decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:58 AM
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I have asked many people what their justification is for forcing men to take responsibility for women's actions (choosing to give birth). I have never been able to get a straight answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:56 AM
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The law could give men the right to opt out of child support. That's all reproductive rights for men could be. And pre conception activities are still irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:49 AM
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From the link you provided: Now it’s true that some men were better hunters than others, and those who frequently brought back meat enjoyed high social prestige and therefore were also most attractive to the women. Well there you go. That explains the biological roots of hypergamy right there. He then goes on to say that this would select for looks in men as well. This is also probably true. This does not contradict hypergamy being biological. Women in fact care more about looks than men when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:30 PM
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I can't. Their core philosophy is completely contradictory. Their idea of a "High Value Man" is basically a textbook pussybegging simp. A beta orbiter, who shells out thousands of dollars on a woman, while she strings him along like a chump for months without sex (to supposedly "gauge" his commitment level). Sorry, that is not "High Value" behavior. That is by definition desperate, and dare I say self-loathing. Even to gold-diggers that is still a "Low Value Man". It's a loser asking to be taken…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:38 PM
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Men aren't as shallow when it comes to looks as women. So no, there's no hypocrisy. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_.28Love.29
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:25 AM
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Outer wrapping is important for women too. In fact, men are less shallow when it comes to looks than women. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_.28Love.29 I don't see how judging men based on utility makes you less shallow. I would say the one looking to provide utility to the other partner actually has more love for them. Women don't provide utility to men because they don't love men the same way men love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:56 AM
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No, they have less reproductive rights because of the laws that currently exist. The law could easily change to give men the same reproductive rights as women. Also, condoms and vasectomies only deal with pre conception activities and therefore not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:13 AM
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Whatever other reasons abortion was made legal is not relevant. It still makes pre conception acts irrelevant. Contraception is irrelevant since it is pre conception. What he does with his body before conception is irrelevant, so therefore his whatever he does with his body before then does not make him responsible for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:12 AM
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You can say it all you want but that doesn't make it true. It has already been decided that pre conception is irrelevant with the legalization of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:09 AM
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Pre conception acts are irrelevant. So no, she's not "paying" for anything he does pre conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:08 AM
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That is a true fact, yes. That doesn't mean it's relevant. You need to take a look at the distinction between "is" and "ought".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:07 AM
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Women are more attention seeking in a self centered way. To the extent that men are attention seeking, they feel like they must do something to earn or deserve the attention. Women think they are owed just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:10 PM
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This is mainly based on "the wall" which supposedly exists for women. The only area in which a wall exists for women is in reproduction. A man will be able to reproduce in old age and women cannot. But that's where it ends. Yes, men prefer to have sex with younger women than older women. But older women still get more sex than older men. "Getting old" may make people treat you worse, but the effects of that are worse for men than women. So ugly old women still benefit from being female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:54 PM
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on raping: http://removeddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/fr5pp3/women_rape_men_at_similar_rates_as_the_reverse/ women start more wars: https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men/ women commit more domestic violence: https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ But sure, the point that crime in general is done more by men is true. This is mainly because of female…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:49 PM
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That doesn't make it relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:33 PM
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If you can show me a post conception choice men can make, I'm more than willing to look at it. Don't refer to anything pre conception, because that's not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:52 PM
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Women on the whole will never love men as much as men love women. This can be seen in how much men sacrifice for women that women can and never will sacrifice for men. Men are the more romantic gender. So yes, men do like women's looks, but they are also more likely to love women for who they are. Even ugly women benefit. E. Belfort Bax said it best: It is again often supposed, and this is also a mistake, that in individual cases of dispute between the sexes, the verdict, let us say of a jury of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:49 PM
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Legal abortion means women can get an out post conception, meaning pre conception actions have no relevance. If you think men should pay for women's choices, then you must think women are children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:37 PM
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Pre conception acts are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:35 PM
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Yes. Once pregnancy happens, that's when the choice is about to be made. We have already decided that pre conception acts are irrelevant when we made abortion legal. Her body, her choice, her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:35 PM
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Because pre conception acts are irrelevant. Doesn't matter what beliefs on abortion she has. The choice has been forced on her anyway, whether she likes it or not. As long as abortion is legal my argument is valid. Whether it is the most convenient thing to do is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:33 PM
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Men have improved the lives of people way more than women have throughout history and today. They are the primary builders of civilization. So congrats on your charity giving, that's cute. But you ladies still have a long way to go to catch up to men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw Oh but men score somewhat lower on certain traits that people like. LMAO Is this all you got? Pathetic. If this was based on any kind of objective reality we would have a MAWE instead of a WAWE. Since we …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:16 AM
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Others have addressed most of what you said. So instead of addressing everything you said as others have done, I'll just leave this here: http://www.angryharry.com/Who-Is-More-Empathic-Men-Or-Women.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:37 AM
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That's not true at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSULDilYcqE
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:32 AM
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Yeah, and his choice is not paying child support. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:14 AM
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Not as long as abortion is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:13 AM
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The law should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:13 AM
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He has no responsibility to support the child. She does since she chose to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:12 AM
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Yeah they are. That was already decided with legal abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:11 AM
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Nope, pre conception actions are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:55 AM
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No, he is not responsible. She chose to give birth, not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:45 AM
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I never said she is obligated to do anything. You are on some other level of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:42 AM
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He can choose not to ejaculate inside a woman and a woman can also make sure she doesn't get any ejaculation inside her. What, do women need a nappy too? Grow up, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:40 AM
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LOL This is a desperate cope. Not doing anything is a choice people make. Your logic is so stupid. So because he doesn't subsidize her choice to give birth, he's forcing her. Not sure if you know this, but all choices are based on external factors. He's not coercing her by not paying her money. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:29 AM
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My point is that she has no entitlement to child support. That doesn't interfere with her rights in any way. That is him asserting HIS rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:11 AM
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LOL So now I got the "pro choice" people to say that it's not actually a choice. Sorry, if you have a choice between having an abortion or giving birth, giving birth is a choice. If it's her body, her choice, then it is also her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:07 AM
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Condoms are pre conception, abortion is post conception. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:54 AM
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No it doesn't. That was already decided when abortion became legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:45 AM
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That doesn't make it relevant to what the law should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:43 AM
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The biology of how offspring are made is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:42 AM
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Men could opt out of child support if that were to be made legal. But you keep bringing up pre conception choices, which aren't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:19 AM
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It refers to PRE conception. Pre conception choices are irrelevant. That was already decided when abortion was made legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:16 AM
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No it's not. That was already decided when abortion was made legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:14 AM
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Avoiding the pregnancy refers to pre conception, which means it's not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:09 AM
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That doesn't make it relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:05 AM
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"His dick" refers to pre conception, which isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:04 AM
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That is irrelevant since pre conception choices are irrelevant. If you advocate abortion being legal but forcing men to pay child support, then you support forcing men to take responsibility for women's choices. Why do you hold that position? It's a simple question. Why can't you answer it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:01 AM
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That's not relevant. Men are forced to pay for women's choice to give birth. That's what child support is. That is what you advocate. I'm just wondering how you justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:56 AM
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Nope, abortion being legal now means pre conception choices have no relevance. Your actual position is that men should be held responsible for women's choices. So what is your justification for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:51 AM
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No, it is irrelevant. That was decided when abortion was made legal. So answer the question. Why should men be held responsible for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:47 AM
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Pre conception events are irrelevant. So answer the question. Why should men face consequences for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:43 AM
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That's not coming soon. You're being paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:42 AM
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Why should men face consequences for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:40 AM
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OK so you're just a bad person then. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:35 AM
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Yeah, I'm right and you're wrong. There's not much to go over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:32 AM
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Circumcision is also bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:31 AM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:27 AM
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So abortion is a sacred right because of bodily autonomy, but men must be forced into vasectomies. Yeah, I'm sure this is just a rational viewpoint from much consideration and not motivated by anti-male animus at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:26 AM
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There's no constitutional right to an abortion either. That was just made up by the Supreme Court. But if they can make it up for abortion, they can make it up for this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:23 AM
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None of what you said is an actual argument against the position. I agree that since society treats men like dirt, it is unlikely to come to fruition any time soon. But that is not an actual argument. Why should men face consequences for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:09 AM
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We already discourage men from sex by unfairly holding them responsible for women's actions. Why not discourage bringing unwanted children into existence in a more fair way, by holding women responsible for their own actions instead of having men bailing them out? And yes, women who force men to pay for their fuck ups are irresponsible and out of control. The fat that you see holding women responsible for their own actions as "punishment" is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:07 AM
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I've asked people many times what their justification for holding men responsible for women's choice to give birth is. They can never give me a straight answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:04 AM
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This fact has no relevance. You talk about facts and "logic" but your statement literally has no logic to it. There is no logical connection between pre conception activities and being responsible for child support. We've already decided that by making abortion legal. So address the actual issue. Why should men be held responsible for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:59 AM
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Don't care. Her body, her choice, her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:50 AM
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All I'm saying is that women have a say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:48 AM
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That doesn't mean women have no say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:47 AM
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Avoiding pregnancy is irrelevant. Stop bringing up irrelevant pre conception events. It's obvious you want to avoid the actual issue. Pre conception is irrelevant for women, so it should be for men. Women need to stop being so irresponsible by having men bail them out for their choice to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:42 AM
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Nope it doesn't. Like I said, pre conception is irrelevant since abortion is legal and women have an out. Bringing up pre conception events is just avoiding the actual issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:35 AM
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Child support is basically paying a woman to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:10 AM
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No it's just that they pull out when she wants so it's not rape. I don't know what the hell you're going on about. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:09 AM
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LOL What are you going on about? All I said was women can tell men to not ejaculate in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:08 AM
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Yes, that's how she can prevent it. I don't see how that's not valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:54 AM
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Two things here: Pre conception is irrelevant for legal rights. That's already been established with abortion being legal. She can prevent him ejaculating inside her. Your "arguments" are pathetic and you need to just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:53 AM
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Nope, that doesn't mean it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:51 AM
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Bruh, you have no room to whine about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:25 AM
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All I'm saying is that a woman can prevent a man from orgasming inside her if she wants. It's not that complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:24 AM
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If a man doesn't want to ejaculate inside someone he can do so. If a woman doesn't want a man to ejaculate inside her, she can also do so. Not sure why this is so controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:23 AM
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No, it is irrelevant and I said why. You just want to avoid the actual issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:56 AM
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Still avoiding the issue by bringing up irrelevant pre conception events I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:54 AM
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OK captain save a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:53 AM
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She can say not to do it ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:52 AM
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Like I said, since she gets an out post conception so should he. Bringing up pre conception things is avoiding the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:51 AM
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She can just say beforehand not to ejaculate inside her. If she takes no steps to make sure he doesn't ejaculate in her, it's also on her. This attempt to make it so women can do no wrong is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:50 AM
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Pre conception is irrelevant. Got anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:48 AM
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So it's normal, but you need laws to force us. Makes sense. What is your justification for forcing men to pay for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:47 AM
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The point is that women get an out. So any cost they pay after they give birth is entirely their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:44 AM
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LOL Paying child support for 18 years is way worse than carrying a baby in you for 9 months. It's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:41 AM
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Yeah it is. Women get an out post conception. So should men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:38 AM
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That's pre conception, which is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:37 AM
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Her irresponsibility, you mean. She chose to give birth, not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:36 AM
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There would probably be less unwanted children if men weren't forced to pay for women's fuck ups. And yeah the political system right now is fucked in many ways. That's why it needs to be changed. What do you think the solution is, just give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:35 AM
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Real manhood is taking responsibility for women's fuck ups. Thank you for your wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:32 AM
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I'm assuming abortion is legal in my argument. Places where abortion is illegal don't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:28 AM
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Don't care. Tax payers pay for all sorts of things. Just tax the rich more. They'll still have plenty of money left over. You want me to feel sad for the poor billionaires? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:24 AM
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I've always advocated men being careful in this legal environment. I'm just saying the laws should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:20 AM
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If a woman can't take care of a kid without welfare it should be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:19 AM
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Nope, that's referring to pre conception, which is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:17 AM
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I do. What are you talking about? It's you that's saying women are children by needing men to pay for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:16 AM
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Ah I see. You're retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:14 AM
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She also let him nut in her. So not relevant. And yes, he has not responsibility for her choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:13 AM
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I'm talking about legal rights here. Our personal lives are not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:12 AM
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For my body, yes. Not another woman's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:11 AM
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Whether it's the reason is not relevant. The only relevancy here is responsibility, which is entirely on the woman for giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:10 AM
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You are so stupid. Pay attention to the actual conversation. You said get a vasectomy in response to me so I just said the same thing. If it's not valid for you, it's not valid for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:09 AM
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It's irrelevant though, so stop bringing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:07 AM
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She can say pull out before you ejaculate. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:06 AM
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Not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:05 AM
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Get your tubes tied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:04 AM
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Don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:04 AM
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Yes, it's not fair that men have to pay for women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:03 AM
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A woman chooses to allow a man to ejaculate inside her. Not sure I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:02 AM
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I mean if you think women will stop having sex just because they can't trap a man for child support, that's a cool hypothesis I guess. I personally will be glad to avoid women only having sex to get child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:01 AM
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Only post conception is relevant here, not pre conception. I haven't downvoted anyone here but I wouldn't not do it just because someone told me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:00 AM
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Women can't choose to not have sex? Everything is rape? And now you are saying women can't get their tubes tied? What level of crazy are you on right now? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:57 PM
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That's not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:54 PM
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No it's not fair at all. How many people it takes to make the child is irrelevant. How does that justify forcing men to pay for women's choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:54 PM
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That's pre conception, so irrelevant. We're talking about post conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:53 PM
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So can women. Not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:52 PM
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She chose to let him cum in her, yet she still gets an out. As long as the woman can choose to give birth, it's really on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:07 PM
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I've never said men shouldn't take precautions in the current legal environment. That is not the same as claiming things should be this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:06 PM
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Don't ask me where beauty standards come from just because you can't account for the fact that men can't possibly be imposing them if they are willing to fuck anything. Intimate relationships involve fucking btw. I'm not saying it's definitely the case that men don't impose beauty standards. But if you say they do, then that means that they actually have standards and they are not willing to just fuck anything. I've seen plenty of men marry uggos. Not sure where you got that from
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:04 PM
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Of course men should take precautions considering the current laws. I've always said that. However, that doesn't justify forcing men to pay for women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:00 PM
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I don't see how it's relevant when his input ends. She's the one who chooses to give birth so it's really all on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:58 PM
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He is paying a woman to give birth. He's also paying for her choice to give birth. That's just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:57 PM
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The rate at which one gender needs the other is negatively correlated with how much one gender thinks they need the other. In other words, women need men more than men need women. However, women think they need men less than men think they need women. Men love women more than women love men. The sacrifices men make for women will never come close to the sacrifices women make for men. Men are more romantic than women, which causes them to give women things that they need. This mechanism plays a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:34 PM
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If men are fucking any women with no standards, then they can't really enforce "beauty standards" on women, can they? That's completely contradictory. It's one or the other. So which is it? And you haven't really responded to anything else I said. Men complain about standards for being attractive way less than women. And men and women's standards aren't equivalent. Men's rating for women is an average bell curve whereas for women it's lopsided. So the complaints are not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:23 PM
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As if women don't complain about "beauty standards" all the time (while somehow also complaining about men being pigs who will fuck anything). WTF are you talking about? Also, it's not really equivalent. Men rate women's attractiveness on an even bell curve, whereas for women it is completely lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:00 PM
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Feminists and feminist lobby groups demanded that the female birth control pill be immediately brought to market and the fact that it wasn't means that companies hate women. So they brought it out as quickly as possible to please them. Now they are taking their time with men with no large male lobby groups pressuring them and accusing them of misandry. This results in them taking more time to test for side effects than they did for women because women weren't as patient. Now you cry foul. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:56 PM
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That didn't answer the question at all. Why should men have to pay for women's choice to give birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:52 PM
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If it was just women deciding to have kids and letting the men who impregnated them be, then you would have a point. But when women use the government to force men to be involved, like happens now, then there's a problem. The current issue is that women have reproductive rights and men have none. The fact that women want to force men to take responsibility for their own choice to give birth shows how childish and irresponsible these women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:51 PM
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Women still like sex, they just have a lower sex drive than men. So yes, women can get sex more easily and this is a benefit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:39 AM
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Expectations come from both men and women. It's not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:10 PM
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There are more female leads than would be expected without active pushing for there to be female leads. There are movies with "badass women" who easily defeat all the bad guys. If there was no agenda pushing this, this genre would be nearly non-existent. Self esteem is irrelevant to who hates their gender more. And yes, despite all the social engineering, many people still don't go along with the agenda to feminize men. This is because it's hardwired biologically. The idea that society looks dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:02 PM
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It's pretty much the opposite. Men and women overvalue women and undervalue men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:41 AM
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Affirmative action is actual sexism and racism which is explicit and legal in our institutions. Meanwhile your "sexism" and "racism" is some super secret thing that everyone is hushed about and is illegal but totally exists and is much more powerful than the actual explicit legal discrimination that exists. Yeah OK, cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:25 AM
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There are studies that supposedly show that blacks are less likely to get call backs for the same qualifications as whites. These studies have publication bias and are basically worthless. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/05/20/on-racial-discrimination-in-hiring/ I haven't seen anything on gender callbacks, but my guess is that it would be pretty much the same thing. The fact is, we have explicit discrimination against whites and males in corporate hiring that the heads of these companies…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:43 AM
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How does that prove the opposite of what he wanted to prove? They still start wars more. You just found a possible reason but that doesn't mean the data changes. It also doesn't say that it accounted for all the difference either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:28 AM
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That doesn't follow at all. Hypothetically, it is possible for one group to have more criteria for attractiveness and still be more shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:22 AM
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Hunting doesn't exist anymore. That is a big brained take.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:56 PM
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They got to get those animals from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 07:14 PM
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No, we still do it now. Where do you think all that stuff comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:12 AM
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Mostly men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:11 AM
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Uh, you think we don't chop wood and hunt animals anymore? Where do you think the paper and other things made of wood come from? Where do you think the meat from the grocery comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:11 AM
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Women “evolved” to be kind and considerate to everyone because women have typically been the social fabric and community builders of cultures throughout history. Absolutely delusional. Men are the ones who have contributed the most to civilization, not women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw Women are more likely to use indirect aggression. This is well known in psychology. If men were the fighters/defenders, women were the diplomats. LOL https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:08 AM
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More men die because of female violence than vice versa. https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.5042/jacpr.2010.0141/full/html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:01 AM
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In domestic violence situations, women are more violent. https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ Men are also more likely to die from female violence than vice versa. https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.5042/jacpr.2010.0141/full/html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:59 AM
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Men are more violent because of female sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:54 AM
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What does them being identical have to do with anything? They're children you creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:50 PM
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OK pedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:48 PM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:47 PM
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LOL So humility IS a feminine trait then? Which is it? I followed the link here: http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2015/03/009.html The measurements that's used here is just retarded. They use measures like aggression and looking for power. Of course men are more physically aggressive and more likely to try and get explicit power. Everyone knows this. It would be a valid measurement among different men. But to use this to measure narcissism between men and women is stupid. There are a lot mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:39 AM
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I would definitely agree with you that humility is not a feminine trait. Women are way more narcissistic than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:46 AM
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And yet ever since the early 20th century at least (read E. Belfort Bax) men have had less rights than women and no amount of pestering has had men give men the same rights as women. What kind of group of people refuse to grant themselves the same rights as another group when they have the capability of doing so? Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:44 AM
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Women only spoke up about women's right because men gave them that idea. Women's rights is a male invention that women did not come up with on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:41 AM
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Your whole premise here is based on the assumption that it was women who first protested for their rights. Feminism was invented by a man named Charles Fourier. Apparently feminism being "the radical notion that women are people" was so radical that women couldn't come up with it themselves. So yes, "women's rights" is itself a male invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:40 AM
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Wow some people use coercion? Mind blown. You sound like a very sophisticated individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:37 AM
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Patriarchy is the result of sexual selection by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:29 AM
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If you decide you want to have children with a woman who is not a crack whore, you would be practicing a form of eugenics. And to answer your question, some markers of what is considered "beauty" are signs of health, so yes. However, women and men do so to much different degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:10 AM
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Nah they never make any distinction. It's always a blanket condemnation of eugenics. For the record, I don't think eugenics is inherently evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:56 AM
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Women: "OMG Eugenics is so evil!!!" Also women:
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:14 AM
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https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-mostly-by-women/ https://stevemoxon.co.uk/partner-violence-femalepredominant-aetiology/
/r/MensRights11/03/20 10:34 PM
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Hmm... https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.5042/jacpr.2010.0141/full/html
/r/MensRights08/03/20 03:31 AM
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...and?
/r/MensRights01/03/20 05:52 AM
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If you can't tell my comment was a joke. Obviously I know the point of the song was to be anti-male.
/r/MensRights01/03/20 05:50 AM
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I'm so sick of running as fast as I can. Wondering if I'd get there quicker if I was a man. This basically the entire reason women don't make it to the top. Men DO have to run as fast as they can, so to speak, to make it to the top. Any man who would complain about having to be "running as fast as they can" to get ahead doesn't have what it takes to get ahead, but this is exactly what the woman in the song is doing. And then she blames male privilege for the reason she doesn't get ahead. The son…
/r/MensRights29/02/20 05:10 AM
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This video is pretty cool tbh. dude is an alpha chad who doesn't care what others think of him he is lusted after by other women for it other men respect him as well he's also an awesome dad women portrayed as having it easier than men, they can just lounge around all day in bikinis while being taken care of by a working man woman literally gets money thrown at her for doing nothing woman marries old guy for his money, is basically a gold digger at the end it shows men can be objectified too and…
/r/MensRights29/02/20 12:36 AM
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Cringe post. Weinstein is innocent.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 08:49 AM
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LOL I hate Trump and Weinstein. But the facts are the facts. Too bad you can't handle the truth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 08:16 AM
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The verdict is garbage. They completely ignored the evidence. Complete clown jury.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 08:09 AM
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Yep. Trump is innocent. The video doesn't mean anything. Weinstein is also innocent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1Gd0CQsiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh26i1yMOEU
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 08:08 AM
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You are only referring to the worst kind of female circumcision that is a very small percentage of all female circumcisions. That is completely dishonest. http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/02/female-genital-mutilation-and-male-circumcision-time-to-confront-the-double-standard/ The source I linked has accurate info. Die mad about it. This is basically a pro life argument. "Get your tubes tied." It's irrelevant because it only refers to pre conception. It's only post conception that is rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:27 AM
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You don’t see how traditional gender roles and men being unwilling to care for their own children are in any way related? Really? I already disproved the myth that men don't want anything to do with their children. But the main point I was making is that "traditional gender roles" has nothing to do with why mothers are favored in divorce courts. Paying for your children isn’t forced reproduction. I’m really not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, tbh. How is it not forced reproduction? The …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:14 AM
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Men used to get primary custody because married women weren’t allowed to work professionally, or have a bank account in their own name. So? It still debunks your stupid claim that the way divorce courts are today has anything to do with "traditionalism". Paying for your children isn’t forced reproduction Yeah it is. it’s consequences of your actions You mean the woman's actions. It was her decision to have the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:17 AM
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You know circumcision is overwhelmingly a male problem. Stop lying. Yeah, any source you don't like is automatically invalid. Boo hoo. Only 10 billion? That's way too low. The fact that there are any men being forced to pay child support at all is a travesty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-H1T7ny2Uw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:07 AM
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Women are more likely to use men for resources than men are to "pump and dump".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:56 AM
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Circumcision is carried out on boys and on girls. This is a fact. Neither boys nor girls are protected from this. Fuck off with this shit. You know circumcision is a male problem in America. You are outright lying with this bullshit equivalence. Men don’t get primary custody most of the time because they don’t want it, or are unwilling to make it workable. This is a fact. nope http://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/03/19/custody-and-child-support-facts-vs-feminists/ Men have exactly the same rights …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:05 AM
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if that’s true, it’s because America has stupid, traditionalist ideas about gender roles Nothing to do with traditional gender roles. It used to be the case that men got primary custody because they were financially responsible. Now it is mainly feminists opposed to shared parenting. Also, it's not just America. Britain, Australia, ect. who’s forcing you to reproduce? Are condoms and spermicide suddenly regulated? Men are forced to pay for women's choice to reproduce. That is forced reproduction…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:55 AM
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The fact is that men are way more loving, romantic, and sacrificial for women than the reverse. How often do you see women sacrificing for men? Barely ever. It's always "me me me" with women. It's hilarious watching women, the obviously more narcissistic sex, complain about men not caring about them enough. Men need to care about women less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:40 AM
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LMAO Men get blamed for their crap choices way more than women. All of these "flip the genders" scenarios almost always work to the detriment of women and to the benefit of men since women are usually treated better in all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:30 AM
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Oh please, that is way overblown. Most of the "worst" stuff is just saying mean things about women. Talk about taking women's rights away is blown way out of proportion because one or two comments get overhyped by other subs. It's probably like 1-2% of comments, if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:42 AM
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FDS is literally a sub on how to best exploit men. MGTOW says nothing like that. They just want to sperate from women. I don't care if you think MGTOW says more mean words or whatever. What FDS advocates for is way worse than what MGTOW advocates for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 06:15 AM
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LOL MGTOW isn't nearly as hateful as FDS or pinkpillfeminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:25 AM
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LOL No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:15 AM
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Like I said, I would usually ignore them for being low hanging fruit. I just found this too funny not to share though.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:42 AM
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Obviously pinkpillfeminism is low hanging fruit but I just found this so funny I felt like I had to share it here.
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 04:20 AM
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Meanwhile I’ve seen plenty of posts here praising men who are good to women and are in line with our values "We like the male uncle toms just fine! What are they talking about?" but they act like men like that don’t exist (because they could never fathom to treat a woman with respect and love and live up the standards that FDS promotes). It’s so pathetic how delusional they are honestly. No, we know simps exist. Calls us "delusional" when they don't even know our basic beliefs. https://old.reddi…
/r/MGTOW01/02/20 06:15 AM
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I'm sorry, but if women find the majority of men unattractive, which they do, then their standards are too high regardless of what men's sex drive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 07:04 AM
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It's women who throw a tantrum when any standards are imposed on them, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:56 AM
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How many men can afford a stay at home wife? Not many, with the way our economy is structured. Elizabeth Warren wrote a good book about that called "The Two Income Trap". Most households with married couples are double income. What about it? That doesn't mean they contribute equally. In my experience, men contribute more to the relationship even when they both earn income. And don't give me the "women do more housework" bs. "Housework" is barely work at all these days. Men do the harder things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:43 AM
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If you want but it's not the same since women don't want to make it reality. Implying the reverse is true of men, which it's not. Men have hella low standards for women. Women don't demand to be raped to be happy and satisfied like the men here claim they need casual sex with multiple women to be happy and satisfied. A woman is never going to resent her husband because she didn't get raped enough in her youth like men here resent their wives for making him settle for a relationship before he cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:25 AM
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Men. It's been scientifically proven that men find average women attractive, but women don't find the average man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:22 AM
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LOL What a dumb take. Men care about women way more than women care about men. Men sacrifice for women so much on a massive scale that women will never come close to. The problem is that men care about women to the point where they will indulge most of their whims, no matter how destructive. Men need to care about women LESS. I would say women need to care about men more, but asking women to dial back on their narcissism may be unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:17 AM
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Men demanding fairness makes hoes mad. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:07 AM
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Men have no personal responsibility for choices women make, idiot. Women should take responsibility for their choice to give birth.
/r/MensRights18/01/20 04:55 AM
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Your argument is "I should be able to get a woman pregnant and then force her to choose between abortion and raising a child in poverty" She has plenty of options to avoid getting pregnant. If she doesn't want to make that choice, that's on her. It's not the man's fault. My counter argument is that the choice you then force on women is bullshit. Feminists have literally been clamoring for this right to make this choice, then have the gall to blame men for "imposing" this choice on them by demand…
/r/MensRights18/01/20 04:10 AM
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Men having the same rights as women is literally hating women now. LMAO Solving the issues of men's rights doesnt start with removing child support. Yeah it does. It solves nothing besides you getting to keep your dollars because you are a shit human being. Nothing wrong with keeping my dollars, bruh. Forced labor for a choice another woman made is bad. There are real problems men and boys face and this isn't one of them It absolutely is. In fact, it's one of the most important problems men face…
/r/MensRights18/01/20 03:45 AM
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My point is youre the same as them, going radical over something and throwing logic out the window. How is it radical and how is it throwing logic out the window. The radical and illogical thing is what we're doing right now, giving women all rights and men all the responsibilities. How you can think signing a piece of paper is equal to an abortion is just sad. Which gets him out of paying 18 years of child support. And that's definitely worse than being pregnant for 9 months. But whether it's "…
/r/MensRights17/01/20 11:38 PM
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Stealth get hee pregnant and then know she has to get an abortion because you signed away on it. What about it? There is a massive difference between signing a piece of paper and having an abortion preformed. There is also the fact that even if you sign off, chances are the kid will still want to know you. So what? The point is that men shouldn't have to take responsibility for women's choices. All that stuff is irrelevant. Like honestly the talk in this post is almost on the same level as crazy…
/r/MensRights17/01/20 10:44 PM
1

lmao
/r/MensRights17/01/20 06:55 AM
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Better get on those feminists. They seem to be terrified of strong men.
/r/MensRights17/01/20 03:11 AM
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LOL If it's so awful and invasive maybe it should just be banned so the poor wahmens don't get subjected to this cruelty. Women clamer in the streets for this right but then say it's such a burden that women shouldn't be expected to make this choice without men coddling them. Grow up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UCPLmNdnM As for the single motherhood thing and children growing up poor, it would actually cause less of that, since it would discourage women from having kids and encourage them…
/r/MensRights17/01/20 03:10 AM
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All men who are forced to pay child support for a decision a woman made is a victim.
/r/MensRights17/01/20 03:01 AM
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If you have sex with a girl you are then responsible if she has your baby. Period. Consent to sex does not entail consent to parenthood. Otherwise abortion would be illegal. Since she grows the baby inside her its her choice to keep or abort it. Period. And likewise that would mean if she chooses not to abort it, the result of that choice is her responsibility. I'm a man and I don't support this position or this post. LOL No one cares. Make a good argument or shut up. Men, if you had sex with a …
/r/MensRights17/01/20 02:59 AM
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It doesn't help the well being of children though. Child support incentivizes single motherhood.
/r/MensRights17/01/20 02:45 AM
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https://breakingtheglasses.blogspot.com/2013/01/vawa-is-not-like-that.html#.Xg_W7W5FzIU
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/20 12:08 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 02:25 AM
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LOL at number 7
/r/MGTOW27/12/19 11:30 PM
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First one is bogus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSULDilYcqE
/r/MGTOW27/12/19 11:28 PM
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Crime is negatively correlated with IQ, so I don't think it has much to do with intellectual capacity.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 10:22 PM
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bros before hoes
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 05:35 AM
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Yeah, but they still attacked him anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/19 05:07 AM
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Mostly for the same reasons men commit more violence generally. https://quillette.com/2018/02/24/behavioral-ecology-male-violence/
/r/MensRights09/08/19 11:51 PM
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It has very famously gotten boys out of trouble even recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIugeQmGi1Y
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/19 08:54 PM
5

Moscow Mitch muh Russia
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/19 08:52 PM
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POC don't receive longer sentences for the same crime. That's another myth. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000470
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/19 08:52 PM
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Unlike barring blacks from white spaces, excluding trans women from female spaces is justified Trans women should be excluded from fem. spaces because of their pattern of violence Is the writer familiar with the rhetoric used to justify Jim Crow?
/r/MensRights11/06/19 07:29 PM
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This is a good article: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/opinion/the-abortion-stereotype.html They say it was mostly male politicians who passed this law. Well, of course it was. Most pro choice politicians are men as well, because most politicians are men. But if you look at the data, the abortion issue is mostly a fight among women with the men not being as passionate about the issue on either side.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 06:42 PM
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I don't think he said that. Regardless, this article has a lot of good info.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 11:04 PM
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He addressed that.
/r/MensRights13/08/18 04:21 AM
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Wow, I'm seeing levels of non-arguments on this page that shouldn't even be possible. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1479/69/1479698784793.jpg
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:37 PM
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"If you fail to defend yourself, it's not real rape." Woah, that's some deep shit.
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:33 PM
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Not an argument.
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:32 PM
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No, no. He is a good goy. The more division between men and women, the better. Saying that men and women both rape will just disrupt that. - le rational skeptic atheist Jew feminist rubs hands
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:30 PM
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"All erections are voluntary and never happen when it's not wanted." Wow, you are a true intellectual.
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:23 PM
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Men have indeed been raped by women. This is a fact that has been empirically demonstrated. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2014.301946?journalCode=ajph& http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178916301446
/r/PussyPass24/04/17 06:21 PM
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Nope, the radio interview wasn't too long ago. She has also made similar statements in more recent years. http://www.genderratic.net/?p=2943 All the available evidence seems to suggest that she hasn't changed her stance after all these years.
/r/MensRights07/09/16 09:55 PM
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I certainly don't suggest that people do it under the climate we live under. There's no doubt that doing something like that in this day and age will increase your likelihood of being labelled a rapist and sent off to prison. The actual principle, however, is a different story.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 04:46 AM
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That's not a proper analogy. That's only analogous to a woman getting wet or a man getting an erection. Clearly those things don't automatically equal consent. What I described was much different.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 04:44 AM
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I don't see why you would think this being upvoted is surprising. It's simply a fact about the way many women are operating. This post was not advocating any kinds of actions based on this. However, I think it is important to take into consideration the fact that someone who says "no" with their verbal language but keeps inviting sexual advances with their body language is a very different situation from someone who says "no" and resists attempts of sexual contact after a certain point. Here is …
/r/MensRights06/09/16 02:59 AM
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