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Blue valentine. That shit will change a man.
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:45 AM
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There used to be this blog called "laidnyc" which had a great article called "Closure is Bullshit". I saved that shit, so reposting here as comment: Closure Is Bullshit As a man, you don’t need closure. A girl either wants to fuck you or she doesn’t. A long, emotional conversation will not change this fact. Girls, however, need to put a man they are dumping into a desexualized box and wrap a pretty bow of closure around it. By participating in the closure process you are helping her tie the bow …
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 05:46 PM
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I can relate a similar story: had my first GF when I was 20. I was dumb back then, and even though the bitch had jumped from one guy to the guy I "stole" her from (not even trying to hide her hypergamy), I thought I was in love. Turns out she had to go for a while to another country, and we agreed to do the whole long-distance thing. Of course the bitch fucks someone else while over there, and I find out. I didn't know anything about RP, but I had 2 girls interested in me, and I hadn't done anyt…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 05:10 PM
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Hmmm. Sounds kinda like she's trying to show loyalty to you/brag as a way to try and get you to commit to her. So at some point she could say "I've been loyal and have been turning down all these other guys I could have fucked, I'm committed to you. So you need to stop sleeping with other girls and make me your girlfriend." This is most likely the case. She's been trying to get me out to parties with her friends (to show her new man off I assume), and even told me how "she just demonstrated she …
/r/askTRP11/06/15 05:03 PM
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I do feel it's somewhat good that she tells me about it, but I also know that these rejections are more than likely betas which she would've rejected either way. At least I get to laugh about it.
/r/askTRP11/06/15 05:01 PM
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There is also a pinch of jealousy-baiting. Sounds about right. She might be trying to get a reaction out of me, which is precisely why I avoid giving one.
/r/askTRP11/06/15 04:59 PM
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Definitely makes sense. She attempts to up her value and my anxiety, which should in turn make me want to commit more to "keep" her.
/r/askTRP11/06/15 04:57 PM
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"Hamster dread game" should be a thing. I agree, most likely the bitch's solipsism makes her think that since dread works on her, it should work on me.
/r/askTRP11/06/15 04:56 PM
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Say that their attempts are cute. Pick one guy out and suggest she goes out with him and watch her revulsion to that suggestion. I did just that recently. We ran into a guy she knows, and she immediately started telling me how this guy keeps hitting on her. I shrugged it off and later said something about "hey your BF is not half-bad at this". Worked like a charm. Definitely implementing the "their attempts are cute" thing. Thanks.
/r/askTRP11/06/15 04:52 PM
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Thanks a lot for the tip, saving it for next time.
/r/askTRP08/06/15 10:53 PM
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Definitely agree. I hope I can someday give as much as I've received from this community as well. Also your advice takes into account the fact that I did mention this guy was an alpha on that situation specifically, and outside of it he wouldn't be more than a beta bitch (evidenced by his over the top compliments).
/r/askTRP08/06/15 10:11 PM
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Thanks again, will work on that right away.
/r/askTRP08/06/15 09:13 PM
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Great advice, that's what I'm thinking would be the best course of action. I frequently pick this girl up and manhandle her, I've even carried her up a flight of stairs and she loves it. I believe that's where my SMV can beat this guy's since fame-wise I don't come close.
/r/askTRP08/06/15 08:49 PM
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Thanks for the reply, really appreciate your input. I also agree it was a bit too much asking on her part, and I might be wrong in believing I've shrugged it off. I did somewhat identify the issue and tried to use a bit more dread (later that night we met some friends for drinks, I upped my teasing, took other people's side before her's, even mentioned vaguely how "when we break up", and she got all worried about me thinking about breaking it off with her); I've also tried and will continue to m…
/r/askTRP08/06/15 07:48 PM
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Yep, I have a couple of other plates. This one I've had for a bit over 2 months. I'm curious about the failing shit tests part, can you elaborate on that? Should I even bother trying to salvage this one? The bitch seems really into me and returned to "normal" after the gig, but I know better than to trust her not to act on her hypergamy.
/r/askTRP08/06/15 06:46 PM
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I've read on here that you have to have a balance of alpha/beta traits. Good dick isn't enough. Holding their hand isn't necessarily a chink in your armor, and relationships require you be somewhat vulnerable. Rollo has a couple of good articles that have helped me identify when to use more beta shit, or when to up the alpha: Your friend menstruation Schedules of Mating Basically, if you sort of know where your LTR / plate is on her cycle, you know to do a bit more beta / comfort stuff, or just …
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 06:31 PM
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You're showing her that you're a masculine man with lots of things going on in your life. It's what she's attracted to. By picking her up, you're showing her your physical strength, which they LOVE. In my post history you'll see a thread I created on picking women up. It's a simple thing that turns them on. Definitely this. About a month ago, the first time I took a plate home we were making out against the wall, so I picked her up and held her legs with my arms. Then decided to test my new stre…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/15 08:31 PM
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I agree it looks like just a "come over and fuck" shitty date, but effort has been put into other dates on my part. The last date we had actually involved a bunch of cool stuff (raced go karts, went to a party, ate at a cool place), so I'm thinking she might have been expecting something similar. As a friend succinctly put it: "she might want a go kart date every time." I obviously didn't include any of this on the OP, and wouldn't expect you to know about the context. Just mentioning it to segw…
/r/askTRP08/05/15 10:13 AM
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I thought it could have been a comfort test because of what you mention, as in: the silence is her pouting because I didn't show enough interest in seeing her and passed on the opportunity too easily. I wonder if she'll double down when I talk to her on Saturday, just saying she doesn't want to go out anymore as part of an even bigger comfort test. In any case, we'll see. Thanks for the input.
/r/askTRP08/05/15 09:13 AM
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Awesome. Thanks for the tip. Good to keep in mind.
/r/askTRP08/05/15 02:55 AM
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Will do. Thanks.
/r/askTRP07/05/15 10:15 PM
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Thanks, that's my plan as well. What I'm not sure of is, should I still contact on Saturday to check on our plans, as if nothing happened, or should I keep the silence until she caves (if she hasn't by then)?
/r/askTRP07/05/15 09:49 PM
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Why pray tell, have humans universally engaged in argument and rationalization at such high levels, yet universally found differing "truths", if the purpose of rationalization were to actually find objective truth? Holy shit, what a great question. As someone who has also struggled to grasp the concept of frame, this is an awesome way to sort of wrap up the previous insights (the overall post is really good). Thanks for posting this, really makes me think about frame in a different light.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 05:52 PM
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Here you go. Learn to soft next and avoid bullshit drama / arguments altogether.
/r/askTRP18/04/15 04:49 PM
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She just giggled about it. Doesn't really mean anything, I just felt like doing it before she left. It was all in good fun, but she still left (she was leaving early the next morning on a trip). I'm fairly certain I'll take her home next time.
/r/askTRP06/04/15 07:56 PM
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Really great analysis. I had a feeling something like this was going on (like I said, she was really into it / me and just put up the resistance described in the OP); however, you've just verbalized it in a way I hadn't thought about. The stuff about turning it around on her is fucking genius. Definitely adding it to the toolbox. Thanks for the great insight!
/r/askTRP06/04/15 07:49 AM
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About the phone thing, as has been said already, ultimatums should be used as a last resort. One thing I've used tons of times with great success is: around the 2nd - 3rd time she checks it, I just say "hey can I see your phone for a sec?", when she gives it to you, just pocket it, then continue as if nothing happened. Obviously calibrate and do this if you're both having fun and the phone thing is just a mild annoyance, don't do it if the date has been shit so far. Last week I did this very thi…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 08:11 PM
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Nice reply, wish I would've thought of it then. Will definitely save it for future reference. Thanks!
/r/askTRP05/04/15 07:47 PM
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Hmm didn't think of it as a comfort test, but it certainly makes sense. Thanks for the feedback, will keep that in mind for next time something like this comes up.
/r/askTRP05/04/15 07:46 PM
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I agree, nobody should be hunted down for making a stupid (albeit crazy as fuck) video. I do think however, that were the genders reversed, there would have been a lot of international butthurt and calls to arms.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 05:05 PM
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Cool, thanks for the update. And I agree that most likely it fizzled out into nothing after they were identified.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 11:35 PM
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WTF with that video. I bet a month's salary that if the same type of video, with genders reversed, came out in the shittiest most remote place in Siberia; the internet would be up in arms calling for their heads.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 10:13 PM
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"Just be yourself" is probably the most self-serving piece of advice a female can ever give a male. She wants you to bare every aspect of what makes you you to her, so she can judge you as worthy or unworthy, and cast you aside if you don't make the cut. That is the essential impetus behind all shit testing. Coercing a man into outing himself as a Beta so she can cast him aside. "Just be yourself" is designed to accomplish that goal in one simple sentence. This is a great way to sum up the socia…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 08:24 PM
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Think as you like, but behave like others.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 06:10 PM
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Same here. I think it's because we already know how it will play out: tons of hamstering, victimization, fake tears and drama. This woman has already shown her complete lack of introspection, and will only try to play this as her being the victim to all their acquaintances. No lesson learned, no "divine justice" other than this guy O having been finally disconnected.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:19 PM
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Thanks, something to keep in mind for sure.
/r/askTRP19/11/14 04:26 PM
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Thanks, it does help a lot. You have some major balls to go all the way up to the VP to get what you wanted, but I'm sure that is exactly why it was appreciated by him in the first place.
/r/askTRP19/11/14 04:26 PM
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Nice! Dread game at the workplace. I'll definitely give it some more thought with this in mind. Thanks!
/r/askTRP19/11/14 04:24 PM
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That's literally the current system, via the cock carousel. Except OP mentioned these sluts should redeem themselves by improving in areas that men find commitment-worthy, while under the current system, they just have to lie / hide their past. But technicalities aside, I agree wholeheartedly that this is the current situation.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 08:44 PM
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Really great show, and I agree, somewhat underrated. Totally agree that Black Phillip is most easily understood / associated with the anger phase, while Beige Phillip is post-anger / pro-analysis phase. This really "clicked" for me after I failed to get into Beige initially and chose to listen to Black again instead (I was still quite deep in the anger phase). After getting over the anger, I started Beige and found it to be really insightful, and has taught me a lot of things that Black didn't. …
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 03:46 AM
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Let's say for this analogy quality=money, a quality woman is like finding $20 or $100 or $200 or even MORE money on the ground, it's awesome and you get a buzz from it, especially if it's A LOT of money, but you wouldn't count on your bank account being great based on the money you find on the ground, neither should you count on women to be anything more than a nice buffer to your life Damn, that's a great analogy.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 09:23 PM
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A nice little trick i read somewhere, that has helped me plow through many a LMR: when she starts with the bullshit excuses, just say "Listen. I'll just continue doing what I'm doing, until you say "stop". If you say stop, I will go sit over there on that side of the bed. Otherwise, I will keep going" None have said "stop" so far, and you can tell how they let go (and stop the bullshit excuses) when you assume all responsibility for the escalation.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 07:42 PM
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I've gone through Black Phillip several times, and currently going through Beige Phillip (over 100 episodes). Regarding quality, Beige starts somewhat slow, but picks up after a while. Most of the content is new, and Dante Nero explains several times over the show how he consciously tries to avoid rehashing Black's content. What I believe is a good analogy, and where Beige differs from Black, is that the former is a lot less angry... think of it as if Black was the anger phase in RP, while Beige…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 08:01 PM
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Putin's face in that photo is the epitome of amused mastery. She's so harmless it's cute to him.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 06:10 PM
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I have one I can share for a laugh. I work in IT, which is a sausage-fest obviously, except for this one girl who thinks she can handle the job. So one day we're asked to move our shit to a different spot. We all move in "waves" so there's always someone ready. The girl is part of the first wave, and somehow manages to lose something from one desk to the other. The boss comes up and asks in the most neutral way: "you're still moving your stuff? everyone else is done" and walks away. This bitch n…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/14 04:28 AM
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Some role-reversing wives actually take their husbands ALONG on their girls night out: “Of course,” as one such wife explains, “they had to walk behind us and they were not allowed to talk unless we gave them permission.” That blog HAS to be satire.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/14 11:44 PM
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If I've learned anything from TRP, it's that women's introspection doesn't go that far. That's how us men look at it: trade in years for a fancy party on one day. Women live in the moment, so basically she just "wants" / "needs" this fancy party, and can't even look past that. "Fuck everything before and after, let's celebrate ME!"
/r/TheRedPill30/07/14 05:18 PM
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If you listen to the Beige Phillip podcast, Dante Nero tells of his exploits as a male stripper back in the day... and some of the stories are just unbelievable. One that I remember is when he stripped at a bachelorette party and then was taken to a back room by the bride. She jumps on him and they start going at it. 5 mins into fucking her, the groom's mother comes in and starts shouting at her "you dirty fucking whore, you're in here fucking this guy and you didn't tell me?!" So Dante basicall…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 02:29 PM
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Right. Nixon had a speech ready for if the mission failed. Disposable indeed.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/14 06:02 PM
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Good post. Reminds me of this sketch. Regrettably, it is only with humor that you can explain these taboo and un-PC viewpoints.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 11:35 PM
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Oh man, you're in for a treat. WoR is even better.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 06:44 PM
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Kaladin is RP as fuck.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 06:00 PM
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Aye, definitely within that range, since I was using a condom both times (and was previously fucking an LTR who was on the pill). That's why I asked if they just wanted to get it over with on the OP, thinking it might have been a soreness thing.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:22 PM
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While possible, I'd think that would entail not fucking either one after that, or having similar experiences on subsequent fuck sessions, which wasn't the case. I did get to fuck them both for a while.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:20 PM
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Hmmm hadn't seen it like that. I have noticed that using them like a sex toy gets the most moans and greatest enjoyment on their part. I hadn't made the connection with this phrase, though.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:36 AM
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It has been my experience as well, fucking them like a sex toy definitely yields the best results.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:34 AM
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I like this. Using it next time.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:33 AM
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A while, not an overly long session both times.
/r/askTRP06/05/14 04:33 AM
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Well that's a great way to think about, but I admit I still have lots of work to do to reach a similar mindset. Thanks man.
/r/askTRP05/05/14 10:43 PM
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That's why I mentioned I did fuck them several times afterwards, otherwise I'd really be worried. But yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking: "why mention anything if they're supposed to be just moaning or doing anything else other than talking?"
/r/askTRP05/05/14 10:41 PM
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Agreed. I tend to overthink everything, been working on giving less of a fuck for some time. Thanks man.
/r/askTRP05/05/14 07:44 PM
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Only in a society where turning your wrist gives you clean water every time, can there be such a thing as feminism.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 10:04 PM
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Been there, brother. Everything mentioned on that article, I made the exact opposite. But that fiasco led me to find the red pill, so I try to share the link whenever I can, in case it helps someone who still has time.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 06:08 AM
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Closure is bullshit
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 11:31 PM
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Kind of in the same spirit as your last paragraph (which is great by the way), I have this printed out where I can see it every day (don't remember where I got it from): "The reality is this: you were born, and you will die. Nobody cares about you. You probably won't do anything to be remembered in the future. But you're here already, so why not see what you're capable of?"
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 08:15 PM
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Any excuse to post this again: closure is bullshit Fuck that, it's what made me find this subreddit about 1 year ago. Although I have to say, I failed the test quite badly (good ol' BP days...) Basically my LTR told me we needed to break up. After some silence I said "k, I have nothing to say here, so get off my car" and left. Felt like shit afterwards, and all my BP friends told me I should fight for her and what not. So, some days later, I went and had a talk with her and said sorry for everyt…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 04:13 PM
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Cuz we're supposed to just get it
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 10:50 PM
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I've let shit like /u/whatthenig mentions slide in the past (to my disadvantage), so allow me to contribute with a couple of examples of said manipulation. A pretty common one is her throwing something out there, for example: "I'd love some ice cream". Sounds pretty normal, right? The problem is, beta boys will jump at the opportunity to please her. "Oh sure, let's go get ice cream!" An alpha lets her know if she wants something, she can use her words like an adult. Her blurting out random sente…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/14 07:55 PM
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Having been on both sides of that scenario (getting last minute cancels and most recently, being the one who gets her to cancel on her other plans)... the feeling is the same: fucking hell, how could I not see this happening? Elusive obvious indeed.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 10:29 PM
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Great article, as usual. Definitely gave me a couple of laughs at my formerly über-beta behavior.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 07:21 PM
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Demonspawn is an amazing resource (most of the TRP Endorsed guys are) for things redpill. I missed the thread he posted before and just now saw it being practically the same. And yes, wholeheartedly agree: TRP is among the greatest places I've found on the internet. EDIT: forgot to mention, this has worked for me even on stuff that isn't necessarily LMR. For example (I'm driving) me: "oh, your house is that way?" (start driving the other way on purpose) her: "wait, we're not going to your place"…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 12:45 AM
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Either ignore (if it's an obviously fake no), or just remind her that she needs to say "stop" (i.e. she says "nooo" and I continue while saying "that doesn't count... you have to say 'stop' "). If she does say "stop", I cease immediately and do a freezeout. 9 out of 10 times she'll either re-initiate or let you know she "didn't mean stop altogether".
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 11:29 PM
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I've had success with a similar tactic, can't remember on what seduction forum I read about it (ages ago). I say: "listen, I'm just gonna keep going, unless you explicitly say "stop". If you do, I will just stop completely and sit there on that side of the bed." I've tried it with at least 5 girls, that I remember. I've had 2 girls say "stop" just to test if I meant it (they both immediately took it back and we continued), while the others never said the word at all. Since we all know they can't…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 07:04 PM
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I've done this a few times: Say "hey can I see your phone for a sec?" Once she hands it to you, just turn the screen off and put it in your pocket. She will either get fake-mad (you just play it off and continue talking, now she's not on her damn phone texting)... or she will get legitimately mad, where you just hand it back and stop wasting your time and walk away.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/14 04:41 PM
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I didn't get the sense that he's trying that hard, sounds to me like he's amusing himself mostly. She tried to veer off to stupid shit and he just laughs and teases/annoys her or changes the subject to whatever he wants.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 12:48 AM
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Been there, done that man. For some reason (cough social programming) you think "this girl is worth it, better to wait." Yup, not falling for that one ever again.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 06:54 PM
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"The bottom line is that in 5 years if you are still with your GF, no matter what arrangement you think you make now, it's not going to hold up after she gets the baby/marriage bug." From the Beige Phillips rules: Don’t think that if you’re honest and they agree to it, that they’ll agree it to later, there’s no binding legal agreement. Women have integrity amnesia, whatever you decide the relationship will be in the beginning doesn’t mean a damn thing. What she wants in a relationship changes ba…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 09:25 PM
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Women always trickle-truth and are always the victims in their stories.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 09:19 PM
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/r/pussypass
/r/TheRedPill20/01/14 11:10 PM
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I had this happen to me somewhat recently (pre-RP). My LTR broke up with me and I was pressured by the group to "fight for the relationship" and make her feel wanted again (which is apparently what she wanted) . I did, and needless to say, it ended poorly. Regardless of the reasons behind the breakup, or her apparent longing to have him fight for her/the relationship, RP truths still trump all. Walking away is one of the greatest powers we as men have. She might not get what she said she wanted …
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 07:02 PM
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Some years ago I studied psychoanalysis (as a hobby, not as part of my career) due to a friend who I just recently realized was quite red pill, who recommended it. I was just talking about this with another friend... how TRP has some overlap with psychoanalysis (just need to adjust some terms), and how Freud was considered a "chauvisnist pig" for similar reasons. I kept quite a few notes about my studies back then, time to revisit. Thanks for the great post.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 12:45 AM
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Hey man, sounds like an awesome change! I'm currently working on keeping frame/communicating where the line is, (pretty much getting to where you're at); so if you could share any examples or recommend some reading on the subject, I'd really appreciate it.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 12:17 AM
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Glossary, sidebar. Check /u/Blue_Gene's comment
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 05:42 PM
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Ok, thanks anyway.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/13 12:00 AM
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I've seen this advise here before, and want to start reading up dog training. Do you have any good sources / recommendations?
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 11:53 PM
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I have one: Plate I had some time back but had to faze out gradually (she was getting too attached) asked me what I was up to. Hadn't seen her in months. Told her I was going to a bar with a friend and she was welcome to drop by. At the bar she shit tests me relentlessly, I didn't cave. She mentioned having someone else she was dating now (mentioned ~3 - 4 times throughout the night), which I ignored. At one point a drunk friend starts saying annoying things, so she pulls me in for a makeout so …
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 07:41 PM
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I hear you. Oh how I loathe the old blue pill ways. But now I know.
/r/askTRP12/12/13 04:06 PM
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Honestly, it happened somewhat fast and was over before we realized. Me and my guy friends kept chatting normally while the women did their thing, until around 10 mins when we started wondering why C was taking so long chatting with the dude at the bar. In any case, those beta days are in the past. My guy friends have also come to know RP (I made sure to pass it along), so not only are we more aware than back then, we also make sure to stop the others from acting like a bitch.
/r/askTRP12/12/13 12:47 AM
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This is the type of advice I came here looking for. Thank you! Can't believe how easy it is thinking about it from this perspective. Will definitely keep it in mind as a go-to response. As for your 2nd part, I agree completely. That was beyond hope already. That is something I've realized since finding TRP. Were this to happen all over again, I'd have sent her packing the moment she started pressuring for commitment, since that is precisely when I could "feel" the dynamic changing and her attrac…
/r/askTRP11/12/13 11:41 PM
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I admit, it caught me off guard. It had not happened before, so I defaulted to not giving it much attention, and continued chatting with my friends. I agree about the fluidity and backup plan, but still want to get some advice on what the best way to handle this would be. I know now my ignoring it didn't work.
/r/askTRP11/12/13 04:54 PM
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Wise words. Trying to learn how to not get there in the first place since I found TRP.
/r/askTRP11/12/13 04:37 PM
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Agreed. Like I said, this was before RP. Lots of mistakes I cringe about thinking back on those days. I do know that before we started "officially", she was quite attracted to me. I approached her aggressively, we fucked on the 3rd time out, she mentioned having been "fascinated and intimidated" by me, and kept asking about other girls she saw flirting with me (I was running dread game without knowing it, lol). I eventually caved in when she pressured me to be exclusive (should have walked out r…
/r/askTRP11/12/13 04:19 PM
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Like I said, pre-RP days. Lots of mistakes and beta behavior. No way I would let that happen now that I know what I know, I would've walked out right there. Since RP I've acquired a spine (lol), don't take any shit, started lifting and reading up on RP theory. Trust me, I cringed while writing it as well. In any case, thanks for the feedback.
/r/askTRP11/12/13 04:14 PM
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Thanks! I'll make sure to let her know next time she dresses appropriately.
/r/askTRP08/12/13 09:20 PM
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Cool, need to re-read about amused mastery. Thanks for the tip!
/r/askTRP08/12/13 07:54 PM
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Thanks. I certainly agree with you on that. I had already told her to wear something sexy "so we matched", and she showed up not having put much effort. However, I think I may have miscalibrated on my delivery, which to me sounds like an underlying anger. Since it's not the first time, I'm wondering what the pattern is... and I think it might be that I don't hold back on saying/doing things I did before red pill. So even though what you say is something I completely agree with, the delivery may …
/r/askTRP08/12/13 07:47 PM
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Here you go
/r/TheRedPill02/12/13 03:19 AM
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Thanks a lot for the detailed response!
/r/askTRP28/11/13 09:49 PM
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Would you mind elaborating on the standing closer to people part? I know about posture and eye contact, but haven't really given much thought to proximity and how it might affect an interaction. If you could explain / give an example, I'd really appreciate it.
/r/askTRP28/11/13 09:20 PM
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Here you go and this one as well.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 07:24 PM
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Thanks for that, I've been listening to Beige Phillip and have also been writing down some of the rules, although some of these I haven't heard yet. I formatted the list for easier reading: All bitches are crazy, you just have to recognize how crazy. We are at WAR. Don't try to make sense out of nonsense. Don't try to turn black and white into technicolor. If you want to be the captain of the ship, you have to steer ALL the time. In the beginning of a relationship, women like you for everything …
/r/TheRedPill29/10/13 10:25 PM
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Damn man, that was some tough love right there, really appreciated by the way. Since that post I've learned other things that weren't included on the original, but mostly confirming what you just shared: She had a new bf about 1 month after breaking up. So yeah, branching for sure, if not downright cheating. The friend in common (female) told me the bitch wasn't happy since I "didn't take her to nice places" and we would most of the time hang out with my friends. I was going through a rough time…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 04:04 PM
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The Black Phillip Show, all 13 episodes
/r/TheRedPill28/08/13 09:39 PM
1

Awesome, thanks a lot for the feedback!
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 06:26 PM
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Meh, I don't care anymore if she does come back. I'm working hard on myself and already had some other plates spinning, so it's not like I'm not getting any at the moment. I just want to learn as much as possible to avoid it happening again, should I want another LTR in the future.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:36 PM
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I agree that it's not realistic to expect to "feel butterflies" all the time, but I think that was her way of verbalizing what she felt, which was that she had lost the initial attraction. I'm trying to determine when/why that was to avoid it happening again.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:29 PM
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While I agree with you that I did slip at some point, I find it confusing that she looked/said things that to me were good signs (e.g. she was always messaging me saying how much she wanted to see me even if we had just seen each other, or how she really liked me and every quirky interesting thing I did, shit like that). When I met her, I approached her aggressively and she always commented on how she had never been approached like that before, and how attractive that was. This kept on from the …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:24 PM
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Nope, but like I said, a coworker asked her about her future with me and she bailed when she heard herself say no. I'd been pretty clear on that (don't want kids, not looking for marriage). She looked quite happy before that. One question, one week, most likely hen group pressure, and she ended it.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:34 AM
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Damn dude... talk about a shitty excuse. Good thing you found TRP because of that.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:25 AM
1

That was too funny. Thanks for that.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 04:22 AM
4

Well yes, in that regard I believe I did quite well.. had my manly, filthy way with her several dozen times without (reproductive) consequences. The friend is sexy, but not my type.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 12:57 AM
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Interesting... would you mind expanding on that? I've heard similar arguments regarding them seeing the wall fast approaching and hypergaming the fuck out, but I'd like to know more about what you say regarding that particular age and such.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 12:43 AM
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Yup, agreed. What's even funnier is how I told a couple of (female) friends about this and they literally started laughing when they heard the "I want marriage and kids and he doesn't" argument. Good thing I had some other options to fall back on. Right now I'm just chilling, hitting the gym hard, and learning as much as I can about TRP.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 12:41 AM
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FB: deleted Gym: hit 3 times a week, 2 months in Lawyer: not needed
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 12:35 AM
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Yup, my first thought as well. The friend in common (female) denies it vehemently, but then again, why wouldn't she?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 12:33 AM
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I said "perceived betaness" on my original post. I did say just betaness when referring to the movie I mentioned. However, my point was how girls now hate him because of that particular moment when he left Ygritte.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:54 PM
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Hmmm not really, it's mostly what I saw (I was watching the episode with a couple of female friends). However, it shouldn't be too hard to find. I'll see what I can find with a quick Google search, but it reminded me of the movie The Loneliest Planet (a guy who loses his status with the girl because of one moment of beta-ness).
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:29 PM
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On a somewhat related note, and regarding the last episode, I noticed how all the (real world) girls who were previously in love with Jon Snow now hate his guts, because of how he left Ygritte behind. On a basic instinctive level all women who were previously enamored with the guy are now repulsed by him, from just one scene of perceived beta-ness.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:18 PM
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I approached 2 girls sitting by themselves at the bar, by just forcing myself to approach without having anything planned for my opener. I was by myself and what I came up with on the spot was "hey, my friend - points vaguely at a group of people - says that to approach a girl it's better to send her a drink. I say that's stupid and just saying hi works... so hi." Worked wonders and I've been dating that girl for 5 months now.
/r/seduction03/08/12 04:55 PM
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Don't know if you might be interested in an update, but I thought I'd provide it anyway. It went great, and everything you mentioned was right. She was kind of shy and I told her as much, but she was definitely interested. She commented a bit about the first date and I was just laughing because I remembered your post. Anyway, whoever said shy girls are anything BUT shy when it's go time, was not lying. Had an awesome time. You have my gratitude for your advice, xcamillaxjrx.
/r/seduction14/04/12 01:59 AM
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And here I was thinking this thread was dead... Your comment really was quite helpful and insightful, thanks a lot for describing all this in detail. I didn't know so many things could be going through a girl's head while this is happening, and it's kind of funny in a cute way. That said, I actually did text her back a couple of hours ago, and she seemed happy to hear from me again. We set up a date for Thursday. If you have any more wisdom as to what I could do to make it less awkward for her a…
/r/seduction08/04/12 11:06 PM
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I agree, but I'm not sure about not having escalated to at least k-closing on the first date. Would it hurt my chances or are girls like this more "forgiving"? I'm used to the "escalate fast or get friend-zoned" MO, mainly I think, because of going after a different type of girl.
/r/seduction06/04/12 04:41 AM
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No problem man, you're welcome. I would be a steep hill to take in everything at once, so the best tips I can give you are: first, take it a step at a time. Don't try to tackle a lot of things at once. I've tried it and have gotten nowhere. Second, work on inner game and strive for those moments where something "clicks" in place and your whole paradigm changes. Specifically inner game stuff where you get to know all the small things that make you YOU (i.e. knowing perfectly well all the things y…
/r/seduction13/02/12 09:20 PM
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Sure! Keep in mind it'll be along the lines of this comment, so keep that context in mind. What I mean by these examples where you're not over-thinking and it becomes a seamless interaction: You're not looking for IOIs to escalate. No need for DHVing stories and such, you're having such a good time, the conversation doesn't need any micro-managment. No negs or push-pull either, same as above. I know these are a little ambiguous, but let me try to illustrate with an example (mini FR): Last week I…
/r/seduction13/02/12 07:36 PM
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Thanks. What I mean is that you should be giving value to everyone, and not just in the context of meeting women. Just helping someone in a way that may seem small to you could be really significant to that person. And by giving value I mean just leaving everyone you meet in a better state than how you found them. Something as simple as getting a laugh or a smile out of someone who might be lost in their thoughts is enough. Now, a good rule I live by so I don't become anyone's doormat is to ask …
/r/seduction11/02/12 03:02 PM
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I'm sorry you have such a negative outlook on everything.
/r/seduction04/02/12 04:51 PM
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I understand that, but I also believe both you and the girl should have a degree of social intelligence to say "hey that's not cool" on her part, or realizing it's not cool with her on your part. Having said that, I've done this plenty of times and not only don't I get a negative reaction, it is almost always positive at the moment I do it (imagine the face girls make when they're thinking "I can't believe he said that", while smiling. Again, by this point I've established a fun vibe with her. T…
/r/seduction04/02/12 03:54 PM
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Noted and corrected. I would return it if I ever got a negative reaction. What I do get is the girl giggling and saying something like "give it baaaaack" in a playful manner. And I have done this plenty of times with plenty of women, both friends and potential romantic interests. I still have no idea why everyone is running around crying "Theft! Rape!", it's ridiculous. I've already specified how it's supposed to be playful. You do this with someone you know and have a cool vibe with, not any ra…
/r/seduction04/02/12 03:08 PM
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At least someone here gets it.
/r/seduction04/02/12 02:56 PM
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Well this got misinterpreted rather quickly. For the sake of helping anyone interested, let me elaborate: This is obviously done in a playful manner. You have to have a cool dynamic with the girl before. Use common sense and don't take other people's phones when you know it might get you in trouble. I always maintain eye contact and a smile when doing this so she knows I'm playing. It's obviously a game between us. If it's obvious she's not ok with it, I would return it right away; although I've…
/r/seduction04/02/12 07:38 AM
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I usually say "hey that's a cool phone, can I see it?", then pocket it without even looking at it and continue with the conversation. Then ignore whatever she tells you about the phone and make her work to get it back, or even better, wrestle you for it.
/r/seduction03/02/12 08:45 PM
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It's quite interesting, it definitely gives you a a better perspective to a lot of things/people's behavior. The downside being how much time it takes to study his work (you can't read Lacan without having read Freud). If you're so inclined, I recommend reading a bit about his studies. Applies to a large portion of pickup theory.
/r/seduction28/12/11 06:56 PM
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I admit I'm using "hysteria" as quite a broad term here. You might be thinking about the earlier diagnoses where female hysteria was considered a mental illness, often accompanied with somatic manifestations (such as not being able to move an arm, etc). Modern psychology doesn't use hysteria anymore, it's referred to "conversion symptom" in the D.S.M. IV. I referred to mostly Lacan's studies of "hysteria", where things like histrionic personality disorder (like the one on OP's image) were groupe…
/r/seduction28/12/11 05:50 PM
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Psychoanalysis has an approach to this, which explains similar behavior on women (hysteria) and how we, their male counterparts, set ourselves up for "heartache" (called anguish) because of our mostly obsessive-neurotic structure. Western society and how we are raised here sets both sexes up for this, so it's no wonder this sounds a little too familiar for a lot of guys, myself included. Even if you manage to avoid emotional investment, it will always be an uphill battle, and you set yourself up…
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:46 PM
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You should refer him to Seddit so he doesn't fuck up like that in the future (with other women, of course).
/r/seduction26/11/11 05:20 PM
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Eastern philosophy like Zen Buddhism and Taoism is basically where this is taken from. It has been known for thousands of years, and it's a shame we aren't taught about this since childhood.
/r/seduction22/11/11 09:02 PM
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Awesome. Thank you very much!
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:56 PM
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This right here is a pretty good summary of what I mean.
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:41 PM
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No sir, I haven't read his material. I will certainly check it out. Thanks for the info!
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:39 PM
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Yes sir, that's exactly right. You need to improve your life in order to get quality women... and at the same time use that motivation to improve on everyone's lives in the process.
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:08 PM
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You're most welcome. It's not new knowledge by any means, but it's always good to keep in mind.
/r/seduction22/11/11 04:50 PM
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You're welcome. Glad it helped.
/r/seduction22/11/11 04:49 PM
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You're welcome. Glad it helped.
/r/seduction22/11/11 01:43 PM
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Certainly. Count me in.
/r/seduction22/11/11 07:09 AM
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You sir, definitely get the meaning of this post.
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:52 AM
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Just trying to give value :).
/r/seduction22/11/11 05:07 AM
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Exactly the point of this long post.
/r/seduction22/11/11 04:23 AM
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I'm glad it helped you, I truly am.
/r/seduction22/11/11 04:20 AM
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This mindset actually somewhat comes from a spirituality point of view. Being good to everyone you meet, "cultivating good karma", etc. will make you (and others) get closer to happiness. Now that may sound kind of esoteric and new-age or whatever, so it's not for everyone's ears. The good thing is, what better place filled with motivated people is there on Reddit? And why not make the world a better place while you get to meet quality women?
/r/seduction22/11/11 02:55 AM
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Glad it helped! I too have noticed once you start giving value, you do all the right things while having a good time. Can't ask for anything more, right?
/r/seduction22/11/11 02:46 AM
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While I agree that DHV'ing will get you interest from the girl, my post was mostly oriented at giving value to everyone, not just girls. I know this is seddit and all, but I'm advocating "cultivating good karma" so to speak, being cool to everyone, and getting girls as a consequence of this. You then use your PUA knowledge to convert that initial attraction into a lay or relationship, or whatever you're looking for, just make sure you leave them better than you found them.
/r/seduction22/11/11 02:43 AM
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Glad it helped untangle it in your head, I know how frustrating that is. Seeing it as a gift is a great way to put it in perspective. As for why you do it... that is a difficult question. Don't ask or wonder what you get out of it, if it feels right, just do it. If it's more than you would normally do, don't hesitate to challenge/ask for "compensation" (wink wink), make the girl earn it. She'll be glad she did. In more general terms, keep improving yourself until you are "overflowing" with value…
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:58 AM
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Well yes, that is part of it. I'm not advocating you stop paying attention to women or stop studying seduction... just don't make that your driving force. When you're focused on getting them girls and most of what you do to better yourself is motivated by that, you set yourself up for frustration, anxiety, etc. When you shift your motivation to improving your life for yourself and to give value to everyone else, you're still increasing your attractiveness, but you will find you attract everyone.…
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:43 AM
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You're most welcome, sir.
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:01 AM
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I think with studying seduction, you become a fairly good judge of when there's interest, and when you're just being used by a girl. If it's something like the scenario you described, if I feel like my time is being misused or I'm being taken advantage of, I won't do it. She is trying to take value from you, and even though you give it to everyone, you don't do it "on demand". You use your discretion. Are you the only one she could go to? Is it urgent? Also keep in mind giving value isn't only a…
/r/seduction22/11/11 12:00 AM
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I don't think nice guys give value. Sure, they do nice things for the girl... but they come from a place of wanting to get something in return. They see the girl as being above, so their "value giving" is more of a way of trying to appease them, and make women look at them because they go out of their way to get her attention, if only momentarily. The douche elevates himself and sees everyone below him. He adds little value and is appealing to some girls who find it unusual (since they mostly ru…
/r/seduction21/11/11 11:01 PM
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My pleasure, sir.
/r/seduction21/11/11 10:48 PM
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What I've come up with so far is pretty basic. Regarding your life, work on improving physically, mentally and socially. Be passionate about what you do, and aim to elevate everything you're passionate about to an art form. Be the fun guy who makes plans and invites everyone, support your friends / family and be genuinely happy for them, motivate everyone to be a better person, express gratitude, etc. Sounds cliche I know, but when you have real interest in other people, you give value. dejust's…
/r/seduction21/11/11 09:10 PM
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I know what you mean. I'm not suggesting putting up with anyone's bullshit. You demand respect for your time and effort, and withdraw your value from anyone who doesn't appreciate it / reciprocate. I do suggest starting to give value to everyone you meet, and from there amplify/withdraw as needed. If they don't appreciate it, hey it's their loss! You're just a cool motherfucker who exudes value. And yes, in a way, it comes from a spirituality point of view, you might say. But it's more along the…
/r/seduction21/11/11 08:47 PM
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Exactly. Shifting your focus to being a better person overall, and not just getting girls. It's kind of doing a 180: you first improve your life because you want to get girls... when you should be getting girls because you've improved your life. The difference being the "driving force" behind it all.
/r/seduction21/11/11 08:42 PM
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I like the attitude of "I'm awesome, you're awesome, lets get together and have fun". I'm definitely going to "steal" this. Thanks!
/r/seduction21/11/11 07:06 PM
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Exactly. That's the guy all the girls want, and all the guys look up to. That's the guy I mean. Thanks for helping put it in perspective.
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:46 PM
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Tofutofu had some great posts about giving value and overall having a "happy" vibe to you, they're on the "stickies" here. Ninja edit: wrong link. Fixed now.
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:40 PM
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I know what you mean, and agree it may seem somewhat ironic, given the main theme of this subreddit. But from my experience, the way I see it is this: First you have no idea how to deal with women, and go through heartbreaks, anguish, because you think being a nice guy is the way to a girl's heart. Thank you Hollywood. Then you run into this material and study your ass off, and get some moderate results with techniques, which don't always make sense to you, but work. Some of us notice being an a…
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:37 PM
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if these two are looking for some dick for a threesome, that is going to happen regardless if it is you This x 1000.
/r/seduction28/10/11 03:39 PM
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Great post. I might actually be doing just that and even justifying myself for not doing anything. I guess the way I rationalized it is: "I see her fairly often. We've done this before. Therefore, there will be another chance." Which of course is something I don't know. I was kind of put off by her incongruent behavior, but should've escalated either way. Better to get rejected than to not do anything, right? I didn't get your 2nd point though. Would you elaborate on that? Thanks!
/r/seduction10/10/11 09:33 PM
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I might try again in a week when I see her again, but if it's more of these games, she's getting friend-zoned by me. I hate mixed messages and feel like I'm losing my time here (by dedicating more time/energy than I would a friend, and getting nothing else in return).
/r/seduction10/10/11 01:59 PM
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It definitely feels like she's insecure and holding back to avoid either getting too involved (as in more into the relationship than me), or really believes she will fuck it up. Also, that talk about "since you're never going to be my boyfriend" (her words) tells me she's kind of throwing that out there as a "condition" to move on, so we're at an impasse. Thanks a lot for the insight.
/r/seduction10/10/11 01:57 PM
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Thanks, that helps put things in perspective. I couldn't be less into games either, and last night with her I was upset about her mixed signals. Either way, time to friend-zone her myself and move on!
/r/seduction10/10/11 05:18 AM
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I know what you mean, I should've finished escalating and would've done just that any other day. However, I felt like going for it in the car would have more cons than pros: I've been in this situation with her before. It's not going to move past kissing. Besides, logistics-wise, neither my place nor hers was an option (on the small chance I could've taken it further, which is not likely). I feel like it would have put the ball on her court, and she would have just stopped me and would be in con…
/r/seduction10/10/11 05:09 AM
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Ok, I was thinking about something like continue as if nothing happened, and treat her as a friend, nothing more. How did you deal with your girl? Did you next her at the end? Just in case this helps, this girl is 2 years older than me, but she is kind of a "small town girl that came to the big city", so she's not that experienced AFAIK. It could either be what you say (she's keeping me as an option), or I'm not "attainable" to her eyes? Thanks for the feedback!
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:37 AM
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So if you're texting her a lot, that sends an undeniable message: whatever it is you're doing throughout the day is so lame that you don't mind constantly interrupting it. That's the exact opposite of having an exciting and interesting life. Most important point so far on the thread. This should have more upvotes.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:38 PM
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If she can actually teach me something and make me laugh, then I'm smitten. This is a huuuuuuuge point. That being said, there is a base level of physical attraction I need before I want to sleep with a girl, and any girl below that falls into the friend zone (basic biology). Perfectly explained. So yeah, I just wanted to confirm what darkenergizerbunny said.
/r/seduction05/09/11 09:03 PM
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Agreed. Also remember,closure is bullshit
/r/TheRedPill
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Had the same problem after getting out of a LTR. First time with a new plate was frustrating to my un-cooperating dick. Apart from the advise already given in this thread, I'd recommend looking into a good kegels workout. I've been following this one: http://sexgodproject.com/basic-pc-muscle-workout/ and it has worked quite well (on week 4 right now). I remain rock hard throughout even when the condom comes on. There's also a link at the bottom of the page to another article called "steal your e…
/r/askTRP
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Of course, "fighting it out for her honor" wasn't something I considered. I was beta, but not by THAT much. However, I did get that gut feeling of it not being cool, I just tried to play it off as if it was cool with me. I should have gone someplace else or started flirting with another girl, no doubt about that now. Although her disrespecting me like that in the first place is why I asked here. I know how to react, but avoiding getting to that place is what I want to get your opinion on. Thanks…
/r/askTRP
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Agreed. Thanks for the example, it helps put it in perspective. My intention wasn't to demean or insult, but judging from the results, that's how it looked. Alcohol didn't help either, as I know I could pull off a phrase like that (and have, even with her) with a better delivery... but I guess it came out wrong. As for addressing this, I'm thinking just not mention it again next time I talk to her, but should it come up again, how could I make her feel good again while maintaining frame?
/r/askTRP
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That's the thing I want to understand. I don't feel a need to be an asshole, I just know asshole-ish (and funny) behavior works and has worked for me. Teasing or C&F or however you want to call it. However, I know I might be overdoing it recently since finding out about TRP because of the anger of finally understanding how screwed up things are. I certainly wasn't looking to offend this girl (although I don't think I did directly at least, and it was mostly a misunderstanding)... but maybe my de…
/r/askTRP
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Yeah, that phrase makes me think it was more of a test to see if/how I apologized.
/r/askTRP
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Closure is bullshit
/r/askTRP
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