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Why are you going into feminist women's spaces, expecting feminists to advocate for you? Because im female? So its sorta in the name. But my reasoning isnt even "why not advocate for men?" Its why muddy waters when it comes to abuse and sexual crimes in order to spread narative of men attack women victims. This is damaging to WlW relationships and to men in streight relationships. And also why use this to make shelters for only women? Why nk thought of mens wings or rooms even if seperate houses…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:40 AM
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This "all men" shit has been reiterated more times than I can even imagine. I have yet to meet a feminist irl who actually think that it's "all men". However, how is a person to know? Bad guys do not have a limp or a sign, a special sign. Women get taught early that we need to at the very least be mindful and careful. Neither do bad women, this advocacy pointing at men as the isssue causes problems for people in WlW relationships ignoring abuse as well as men in streight relstionships becuase th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:20 AM
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Its more like going to the mechanic to ask about them overcharging for somethjgn you didnt understand at the time, then getting kicked out and told not to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:52 AM
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I mean i am left wing myself but dont agree with these policies, although i must say i see it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:51 AM
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Wow, a male dr gave you, a man, good medical care? And that means that women surely cannot have a bad experience with a dr? Like are you listening to the faulty ass “point” you’re making? Ignoring someone’s medical issues for years and potentially allowing someone to die (happens to men too to be clear) is not the same as an overworked nurse simply being short with you. Im a woman. I never said women doctors arent good, infact i spesifically mention idk if its a local issue with who applies or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:50 AM
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Its odd to say you support femenism but a Sahm isnt femenist enough for support. And ignore the entire part of my comment on how femenism interaacts with mens rights. I had never said all women, my point was that the reason that female doctors come of badly at least in my locla area is a lot wer or are bullies, who joined as groups. There is also other doctors and nurses but due to the bullying problem (something well documented to be an issue in the medical feild) or their own empathy its not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:43 AM
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I didnt say it is but it easily becomes terfs and people critisizing everyone elses lifes. Although its not the main belief it seems to atract a lot of negative veiws.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:36 AM
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Thats my veiw too, bother arent perfect, but femenism seems more determind to shut down mens rights and denounce them while offering zero alternatives thats the bit that frustrates me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:47 PM
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Issues with family courts Male victims of violence and abuse Mens mental health Menss lonliness and how to combat it There are more points too but these are some i am most aware of, and usually the ones they campeign for and get stopped. Also men complain about not getting sex, and guess what women complain about men too in lots of inapropriate ways, the extremes arent the focus of any group. In fact i went to an event design for women to complain about how men impact their lives and not all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:36 PM
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Idk if seperating people has ever been veiwed as the positive reaction, for a lot of reasons im not bringing up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:33 PM
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Yet when MRA aranged a march femenists maarched against them to drown them out. And at least 2 years ago i was seeing everywhere people saying mens rights is evil so of u support it ur bad, becuase we support mens rights with femenism. Largely pushing more fringe people to go to mea and people who care for others and their image to lewve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:30 PM
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I will say it is starting what with mens sheds and other similer things, but i will say having mens this and womens that is probs only sewing division.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:01 PM
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So then wouldnt it be good to help form better spaces and better mental health and support service gor men? I mean although they sometimes go about it the wrong way when complaining, loneliness and isolation isnt good for anyone, and neither is being ignored by partners but usually u find these people havent friends either but they have urges so sexual feels the bigger issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:37 PM
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Thats interesting yo find out as i didnt know that. I will keep this in mind if i see posts from there come up!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:57 AM
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I mean sure they can, it just seems an odd move for a group of people supporting a movement and campeign aimed at changing peoples oppinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:28 AM
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I am aware of this and struggle with it in all aspects at times, but the thing ive notuced is with ,ost yheres a moee welcoming sub, with femenism i couldnt seem to find one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:27 AM
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why cant men advocate for themselves and other men instead of expecting women to advocate for male issues? They try and are often told "we are fighting for equality you dont need to" and that MRA is a right wing krganisation bad for women, sexist and supporting abusers. most women are molested/sexually assaulted by men. of course they’re going to focus on that. A lot of men have been molested/sexually assaulted by women, should they start blocking women out of spaces too? Should men refuse to ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:26 AM
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If you want to advocate for men, don't go into a space that's specifically dedicated to a movement for ending women's oppression. All the people who whine about feminists not talking enough about men fail to realise (or care) that, while individual feminists may talk about men's issues, it's not a feminist topic as it's outside the scope of the movement. Femenism directly oposes Mens rights activists, even staging counter protests when mens rights activists try. When the issue is brought up abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:23 AM
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I am indeed wanting a discussion on both i guess, but i can see what you mean for sure! And although they do say "not all femenists" basically, it does seem theres a lot of experiences with their actual organisations that claim these things km asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:55 AM
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Im sure some are but i dont think its just that? Im not fully disagreeing but it really confuses me. Theres many veiws on reddit, they have subs directly for asking femenists questions, but i couldnt ask those questions elsewhere than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:49 AM
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I feel like theres rhese groups in ever section u can make in society. Its like how a town has usually got some sort of issue with a town nearby joky or not. But i think the thing that baffles me is how common and how "good" its deemed in femenism, like its not a fringe belief in that group
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:48 AM
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I clearly explained i want to know more specifically because i felt i was missing something. and asked in ask femenism as well as a couple others and none got through so i gave up. I cant remember them now but i couldnt find a place other than here willing to discuss it. It just seemed odd that despite being polite in asking there were issues, as well as when i only was saying something nice about men in response to a posr asking if anyone else felt the same. It left me feeling pretty confused a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:40 AM
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Could you explain to me, i know my wirting always leads to confusions or missing points but id love to know how to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:35 AM
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I am aware this happens, but surely the best you can do if yoj support a campeigning and advocacy groups is answer somw questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:34 AM
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Or even a good attempt at a coffee bar for all would be good, some nice music, coffee, bar games without the drink and maybe even more possible considering the coordination will be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:53 PM
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Personally I feel going about life and being kind to others and meeting people by chance feels so much better than even dating someone u met online naturally nvm dating apps. It just feels so much more special and you cherish it far more. As well as usually having at least something in common instantly be it a shop or a coffe place or a sort or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:52 PM
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I have and would date them, I'm not sure I'm NT though but I never had issue. The problems start with dating NDs usually when people count a person's bad behaviours as being every neurodivergent persons bad behaviours. I dated a few guys with autism and one would ignore me consistently ajd was rude The other would shout inappropriate things often in public and didn't have much kindness The other one was extremely loving, caring and friendly, had more acceptance of my flaws than almost anyone els…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:54 PM
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Exactly and the constant "Just coz he's sexy and you want to fuck him" as well. Like I know these women would likely only insult him and think he's not good looking anyway and I've also literally never dated someone just coz I want to fuck em, maybe a couple fwb were closer to that. But obviously they were. And the fact I literally only said (in shorter terms) "politely explain abuse, don't attack someone you think might be a victim. You won't convince them by being more obviously nasty than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:57 PM
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Im not fixated on this issue, I made a post on it so I'm speaking on it. The post I made was in hopes one person would listen and someone who Is in a bad age gap relationship that's bad knows where to get help and feels they have someone who has helped rather than just insulting them. I don't "go for older men" I've been with younger older and honestly mostly within 2 years of my age. I just had 3 relationships that are worth mentioning in this specific context. I had issues with family thanks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:37 AM
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Im not fixated on this issue, I made a post on it so I'm speaking on it. The post I made was in hopes one person would listen and someone who Is in a bad age gap relationship that's bad knows where to get help and feels they have someone who has helped rather than just insulting them. I don't "go for older men" I've been with younger older and honestly mostly within 2 years of my age. I just had 3 relationships that are worth mentioning in this specific context. I had issues with family thanks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:36 AM
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My specific thing was when you see these relationships online give them information on how to leave what reasons someone might leave (like from women's aid or something) but don't belittle and be nasty to them. Because most people belittle and are nasty and I think it just makes those women less likely to ask for help because last time they even mentioned their relationship they were basically called a baby and an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:42 AM
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So you want to accuse me of being a pedo supporter? Wow. Original. Anyway I do believe there should be and I believe 16 is a very good age for it, especially when it comes with living alone, sorting Ur own life and being able to go to war, get married and have babies. And that as grown ups, most of the people who claim to be "concerned" and "wanting to help" are and do neither of these things. We should encourage girls in these relationships to know signs of abuse ect (personally I believe this …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:27 PM
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Exactly! Also like even when guys made fun of me, it was kinda justified at least like. But then the women just decide to, in my opinion because they enjoy it. And I can say I hurt people coz it felt good and I thought it was good because of how I'd been taught it was okay to be with guys. It's totally messed up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:23 PM
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I don't think they should or should not. Because I don't feel like controlling other adults and older teens is a good thing to do. But also you didn't respond to my post which was about a pretty specific part of things with your comment so I assumed it didn't matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:20 PM
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I feel like we should stop pretending teens an't know anything, learn anything or make any decisions (while also letting them sign up for wars, live alone, have kids ect). I feel like the best way to stop the negative relationships from the age gap relationships is not constantly telling teens they are silly little kids. And instead, tell them the red flags of bad relationships, link to facts about toxic relationships from places like women's aid. Don't just insult the person you see as a victim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:57 PM
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What do you mean? And why say this on this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:42 PM
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I'm in Scotland and personally think American age laws are stupid as. So maybe just take me at my word on what I was :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:28 PM
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I WASNT a child at most I was a teenager, it's infantilising to say I'm like a little 10yo at an age where iw as totally fending for myself and legally able to marry, have kids, go to war, have babies, ect. I was legally an basically an adult I just couldnt drink and drive yet. So at least you accidentally did it but it doesn't help And maybe I was but the main reason we dated is because we fell in love, he helped me fix my relationship with family and we've been together since, happily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:57 PM
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I was a child t 13 but as I said the person I was dating wasn't capable of doing much, he was severely autistic and we were very matched in behaviour. If anything it felt like I was the adult, he never did anything I didn't want and he's a lovely guy I still speak to time to time. And at 17 I loved alone, had a job, finished schooling, was moving house and finally went after the man I'd crushed on for 3 years and succeeded. He makes my life 10x better. Also constantly calling women childish seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:45 PM
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Women are also extremely violent sexually and physically and I really don't agree with this argument. I'm also meaning with women's self image ect. I specifically said I didn't want to talk about violence. Also because women hurt ourselves one way, but men hurt us too. You can't use what men are doing to ignore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:42 PM
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I'd agree, but I'd feel the same about someone who repeatedly goes for thin women leaving if they put on weight. I'd just not bother as they don't seem to be interested in actual relationships. Also with the thing I mean is like sure tell them how to avoid abuse and what it can look like. But we don't need to make the woman feel like a silly little child with no ability to learn (odd that mainly feminists do this) or make the man out to be a pedophile for dating people over the age of consent, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:11 PM
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Okay so your saying a 10yo and an 18yo women are the same thing? That they are equally childlike and silly? Coz that sounds like a group you don't seem to support and seems like an odd thing to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:07 PM
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Age gaps don't mean pedophilia, and pedophilia isn't an age gap relationship. Bringing this up isn't really necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:55 PM
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I dated one guy a year off my age, then two guys who were like 6 and 3ishbyears older at 13 to 15yo (I didn't have any bad experience and enjoyed my time with them but i think it came from the fct they both had quit severe autism, and so we weren't really different ages mentally, if anything i should have known not to date them) There is another couple guys who are 2 years older and then 2 a couple years younger (I only dated one the rest were fwb) And that's my dating up till 17
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:51 PM
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17 and 23 when we met, I'm 20 now and he's 26
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:41 PM
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I'd say that's not the entire reason. And it's probably a more personal "bad things happened to me and I want you to stop" and thenanger that they can't stop the person. Maybe a bit of personal jealousy but I really doubt they do it to control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:39 PM
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I can tell u I met my current bf as a teen and he has done none of those. I also didn't look like a little girl at any point in the time we dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:35 PM
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Well surely if they are abusive there's more signs. And weirdly enough I've posted about my relationship for helper ith issues (mainly with our friend) on a anon account and got a hell of a lot more insults than help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:06 AM
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I won't because I'm here for debate. And most feminist apparently believe it but not the ones I met
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:40 AM
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I said neither for those and I'm not referring to those few helpful comments. More the consistent nastiness people give out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:39 AM
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I'm not saying there shouldn't be consern. Just saying the way most go about it isn't helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:36 AM
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I can see where you are coming from now, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:41 AM
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Okay, I'm not trying to change anyone's view of the relationshi with this, I'm simply commenting that people don't reply to these posts in anywhere near a helpful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:38 AM
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I can see how you feel from that. But I will say I've seen people do the same over same age partners. And I feel like in terms of my post (not in terms of your lived experience as I don't mean to downplay) that giving information on what is abuse and when and how to leave if you choose helps more (much like it sounds like your family did). But I feel like the snarkyness/anger at the person you believe is victim isn't the correct response for someone who may be being isolated when they do reach o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:17 AM
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In the ama I answered questions on this. I don't feel like I was groomed. This is mainly as the first 2 guys were heavily autistic (I'm not infantilizing one struggled to tell reality from films and another was slightly better but kept being tricked into taking drugs likely a supported living level) and will likely not move from his mums. And although some things were inappropriate i feel okay about it, checking with my therapist they agreed with me. I also feel like they are by no means what sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:14 AM
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I honestly don't have any examples I can share and don't feel super comfortable picking a random post and sharing that as I don't want someone to have to deal with their post not just being in a help sub if you get me? Anyway the examples I have from past posts on a more anonymous account is that I was told I was stupid or naive as well as being told I was an idiot for being with him. A lot people came with accusations at my partner of some pretty heavy stuff when they couldn't be further from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:58 AM
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Well I didn't want to touch on physical abuse and have to deal with the detailed convos or the arguing, but I also don't believe we should keep saying it's only men that are physically abusive either. I just never got close to many women. But I know so many people who've been victims of woman and didn't know they could be victims even because of the way people act
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:57 AM
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My brows still are both sides are good and bad people and we need to stop saying it's just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:53 AM
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Go with the flow, and what you feel like makes you happy in the moment, asking others and planning your life goals based on others doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:50 PM
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The consistency had an effect for sure, but also just the main reason for this is the difference even during that time, only boys would be my friend or hang about with me, the girls never would. Even ones I got on with when we weren't around others. But also the level they hurt me in the worst cases, and how much effort they went to: They bullied me so harshly for every smile one day that from that point on I've fought not to smile too much, and feel nervous about doing it. That was one day. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:38 PM
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Well I think the media feeds the fear by saying men are dangerous, and because we are already feeling fear we think it's logical fear (or at least it's my theory). Then those people feeling their fear is logical start making media saying the same. I don't even know if it ever has been done from a deliberately bad point but it maybe always has stemmed from the PTSD of it, especially as we got comfy saying how we felt about it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:30 PM
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Well at least the male friends I had didn't pull my hair, and that most of them have looked after me and made sure I'm safe. The women I've met haven't done the same so often. And I do know people may do that, but at least they in general have the decency to not bring you down as well. Women will say it to you and about you, and it doesn't even have to be anything true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:14 PM
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I've not been a saint either I went thru a lot of spells of being a bad person trying to make friends and do what I thought was right. I've learned I was a bad person during that time. But I also see a lot of the ways some women act too from meeting certain people and learning more but things, including why I became that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:11 PM
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Maybe, I'm glad though that you haven't and that issue and that it's not so prevalent everywhere tho
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:17 PM
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I really feel it should be worded "people you are dating" or "people who are out to hurt you" or something, coz this whole men or not all men argument is bs and leads both lesbian women and men to never see an abusive woman as abusive.
/r/MensRights22/12/23 07:58 PM
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Idek if its that or just how much harsher laws and schools and every governing area seems to be on men. (Although TBF with bullying no one gets in trouble for doing it) but it's like a man's always told do x bad thing and Ur off to prison. But women are just assumed they'd never do that and even if Ur fighting it's just a cat fight so who cares? Ik I've felt it, less so as I was quite demonised at school anyway, but I thought things were only okay for women to do till I grew up too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:57 PM
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Dude I've been around so many groups of women, and as a bi person these convos stuck out I've also heard lots of talk in bi spaces and from bi men about it. Some may see it as a green flag but most see them as "man whores" or gross and girly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:53 PM
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Well I lived in an area that had 30000 or something people. I've as picked on from age 5 to age 16 when I had been made homeless due to teachers actions and didn't see point in trying to get along with teachers who may harm me while being bullied every step I took. There was another school too but they already knew people from my school and not to talk to me or get picked on. And I did move groups often to the point I had hours of extra travel for sports ect to find groups who didn't know anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:51 PM
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Exactly my point. And like the amount of abusive men I see supported by the women. Even in the most awful cases of abuse I've seen from a guy on his kids. Mom knew and did nothing and continued the suffering after. And from meeting her I just saw how many other women use these manipulative ways and make awful comments. I didn't add it to my post as I knew I'd get enough women mad at me and wanted to keep it civil, and women apparently can't keep convos mentioning it civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:48 PM
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Exactly what I noticed, even the lowest boy had a friend, the lowest girl didn't coz if u friended her u were joint lowest in the others eyes. Even the nice girls took part in that bit. But I ended up chilling with a group of lads from different year groups and we were pals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:25 PM
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Yes but a woman's "mean words" often includes isolating you, once one group does it they tell the next to, then there's no one much and I have to go somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:17 PM
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To be fair I don't blame them, I'm still scare dog men due to PTSD, like a veteran scared of fireworks. There's no reason logically, but sometimes it can be explained as logical when it's men we fear, and it helps us never get past the fear and live in it and turn it to anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:15 PM
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Yeah that's more what I mean that and bi ken are hated by women, bi women are hated by women, who doesn't care? Straight men and gay men. But also I got bullied by girls for being SAd coz the guy was weird and I was already being made fun of. I have more trauma from the things people said to me and how they acted then actually being in the situation that started it. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:13 PM
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I made this post in part to see how different the response would be from women. I even got told I was on the edge of being a pick me girl... For listing my experience and why I feel safer with men basically. They'd not say I was being too nice to women for saying men cause issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:07 PM
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Yes, and I clearly state women nearly made me end my life, despite being affected by abuse and sa. It's odd because they don't agree they'd rather say I'm just whining or being silly. Kinda like what a guy may say after being awful to you, women wouldn't be okay with it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:05 PM
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I agree and I do but I do feel men are less likely to pick on women in these ways than women are, though I feel we shouldn't gender issues it's seen to be largely okayt o do towards men and that feels odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:28 PM
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As a whole I see men and women as equally bad and good, but I see so much blaming men for women's poor body image or creating toxic environments and in my experiences and everything I've seen it seems to mostly be the opposite way round to me. The fact I get these comments for saying it about women, but if blamed men in a women's sub I'd probably be told I was correct is odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:23 PM
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Women absolutely are equally likely to get physically violent I feel it's less talked about coz I think, especially for me and others I've mentioned this to, it seems we only want to fight if we might win. Men tend to swing first and think second when with other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:13 PM
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I agree with u but it's sort of a "when in Rome do as the Romans" thing. If I posted similar about men in a feminist sort of sub I'd bet they'd just agree flat out. And I'm trying to make this convo less targeted as usual these posts come from those who are men angry at women for reasons. I am a woman and I see similar things if you get me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:11 PM
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I'm not really talking about this. More about how women hurt themselves as a collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:09 PM
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I have no lower bar for men, but I've had for more positive interactions with men, probably gain in the hundreds, than women in social setting. And yes they did hurt me, and I didn't go easy, ones in prison, one had to leave and the other as I mention wasn't doing it intentionally as we were kids. But if a dude is the same as most women have acted in my life and what I've seen I also don't speak to them either. And if they were a friend I let them know it was bad just like I would with a female …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:08 PM
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Idk what this post has to do with virginity and the play book? Are you sure this is the post u meant to comment on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:53 PM
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So what could I have possibly done wrong that in a new social setting, where all is done so far was play my violin how I was supposed to, I was clean and wearing similar ISH clothing to the others, I made every effort to not stand out, did they glare at me and act entirely unwelcoming. Yet I walk outside to the guys area and we just chatted like a bunch of normal people then? Is it a teen girl issue? Coz I mean an adult man has also never decided to be nasty to me while looking after me because …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:49 PM
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Men haven't insulted how I dressed or my make up (or lack of it) and it's a common thing as there's plenty of media showing this happens. If anything I should be biased towards women, and they have helped but those women who helped me were about 2 in 300 or something crazy considering the amount of people I've known through sports teams, schooling, support workers ect. But I can tell you a lot have hurt me. I think women cause a lot of the oppression in how women can look. And also that in gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:47 PM
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Hey I'm simply giving it back, and saying the same but about women. I also honestly feel women are the reason that so many other women struggle with body image issues. Irl I've never seen a dude just randomly insulting women's looks. Women on the other hand I've seen do it very often, especially when it comes to make up and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:42 PM
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They already knew eachother and didn't seem welcoming of eachothers groups either, and I say that as there were some still waiting for tables to be free when their groups would have fit at other tables. Also because I've seen it a ton of times at school and social events. I am a very clean person, I like being comfy though so wear leggings and hoodies or shirts most of the time and don't like the feeling of make up, so I never wear it. My only issues talking to people were after that point becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:39 PM
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I've been assaulted by 3 men, 1 was a kid being abused himself, 2 were bad guys. But I've been in lots of vulnerable situations with guys and been very protected and safe, something that the women in those situations never helped wity. I also said I'm talking about emotional side of things and didn't want to discus traumatic things like this. I could do nme more female than male rapists who are in my community. So I don't think you can convince me assault, DV,SA and rape is a man only thing. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:52 PM
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I don't do either of those much, I worked on a fake, played sports and now I'm working and going to events and see a lot of people. None of this is coming from being chronically online. The only reason I feel like this is worth posting is the nastiness and accusatory way I see women talk about men. And I don't think the group of women's bad qualities are highlighted in an appropriate way very often
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:46 PM
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But what I'm saying is it's not just incomparability or not being able to speak, as I'd just say it was a ke thing. But it's the nastiness, the bitching, the making eachother feel ugly or worthless and then turning round and saying men are perpetuating these "perfect woman" images. I've never had a man complain I'm too hairy, tho women made fun of me for it. Sake with makeup, weight, looks, intelligence ect. I've also never been made to feel welcome by women like I have by men. Even if they let …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:45 PM
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Okay but what I want to hear is why people could disagree. And I honestly thought it was personal experience but the more I see and the more I hear from women on subs like this and there own personal women's only subs, the less I feel like it's a me problem. And yet as a group we are meant to blame men for our trauma and use it against them? Or at least that's everything I've seen when Ive gone to feminist activism groups irl and spoken in feminist subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:40 PM
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I am a woman, and as I said I have female friends who are above 40 just non closer to my age, as I found the things I listed to be the boxes they fit in. I feel like I've spent ages trying to talk to even the women who said we were friends. And then I can just wander up to a random guy and I can actually have a conversation, that's not possible with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:35 PM
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Hey there's plenty of people who won't back me up here, the people who would likely won't comment. I believe all humans are very equal but I am sick of everything being blamed on mem being had when from my experience women are equally bad and from a social aspect far worse to be around. I view woman as being equally bad as men but in any social setting I'd rather be around a bunch of guys than girls because no matter how many times and different places I've tried women close to my age have usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:24 PM
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I feel like Ur overlooking that these people re likely being honest with u already to admit it. And that people are virgins for lots of reasons, some are a little shy, some never met the right person, some have maybe had bad experiences when younger. I've been with 3 virgins, and I've only had an issue with one and we had sex at 14. And ik lots of the awful guys in my school loose there's early too, the ones who hadn't were generally the nicer, more friendly, less judgemental ones. I'd also poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:23 PM
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Yea but I'm saying the views different. The guy I lost my virginity to when we were 14 was a hero, I was viewed as a zero for it and noticed the girls in my school had more convos about waiting to 16 or 18 where as the guys spoke more of wanting to lose it asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:52 AM
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I think with girls there seems to be a more normal expected age for it. Guys who aren't saving themselves for a reason often want it gone asap for lots of reasons, and if they don't I've known them to lie about it and I wonder if that's why people think it's as rare as its looked at right now Women seem to have a less extreme view on when to lose it I think most do wit till they are 16 to 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:42 AM
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What I'm saying is not that he's wrong, I'm saying that trying to argue that people shouldn't be like that won't change someone, so it's important to find someone who is into you regardless because you probably have a lot better relationship on the way. And as that's no issue for me, and most men don't want virgins or don't care and I didn't stay on past 14 I don't really have an example from my life to compare and explain my thoughts on how I'd respond. But I have been sent a lot of random dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:39 AM
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I'm in an age gap relationship so I'll comment on what I've seen online when I've spoken about it Vs offline. Online: I get told idk who I am or he is, that I'm too naive to figure anything out on my own and only people the same age can date. they called him a pedo and worse over this. Also anything he does is wrong. It seems very bitter, angry and ridiculous. Though idk if it comes from jealousy as these people are both men and women, I think it comes from how strong people react to YouTubers w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:18 PM
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I think this would be awesome but it wouldn't be able to happen coz of people I'm guessing come from religious backgrounds or are Catholics and Christians. Though maybe so often would be an issue as teens make it a nightmare to teach sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:12 PM
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Lol ik I'd have good intentions with this from Ur kids but Jesus we don't need parents in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:48 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:47 PM
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Okay so if that never happens do we just give up on kids and not send them to school, n the schools don't teach because they'd rent good enough? Is that what u r saying? Because I understand being angry at school systems, trust me I do they made me homeless. But I'd also like us to at least work with what we have and give education that's needed and useful to kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:23 PM
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Oh I totally agree, personally I'm of the view parents should have less control and ability to learn about their kids than they do. It's odd I have to warn a right to privacy and full education by turning 18 or becoming homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:10 PM
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Okay cool, so u gonna find a new, better alternative to teachers to teach things. Coz parents can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:09 PM
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I feel like the way they did it at school in the same way they may teach us about Hinduism "these people over here do this" sort of thing as a group is good, rather than 1 on 1 as that feels a little pressurised. But on the 10 thing I'd agree but thought I'd get called a child predator (ironic since that would honesty help stop child predators)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:19 PM
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Also weird sexuality shit Dude if it's weird for me to be with a woman it's weird for me to be with u grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:17 PM
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Parents need to be removed from it, I've seen stories of kids only becoming pregnant because where they lived they needed mums help to get contraception and mummy is useless. And parents can also often be hurting their kids so I think sometimes and especially when Ur going to a medical professional anyway, there needs to be the ability for kids to get anonymous care. Otherwise it really hurts kids and ruins their lives coz mummy and daddy needed to know the ins and outs of their genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:16 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:14 PM
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All of us had bad first times, from being too deunk, to being coerced to rape ro simply not liking the person at all and doing it for the loss of a v card. I was coerced into it but even the times I chose after that weren't good till I knew myself at age 17
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:14 PM
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In my school we had 1 fifty min lesson a week, it covered things your mentioning as well as the things I listed Also I feel most of it is hugely important information for functioning beyond 11 to 14 depending when puberty hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:12 PM
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Nah but I also feel like me and friends or others I've known haven't fit this but I don't know any stats on it so I'll gree it exists and can understand the effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:11 PM
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I'm guessing part of this is country based but where I live there's a lot of different professionals and requirements (including people being turned away for being too depressed or other issues with mental health in some cases). Also I feel there isn't harm that can come from honest convo in class "this is what trans is, some trans people struggle to get care and wait lists are long, here's a reputable place to go" sort of thing. That is kinda what I got, though I was in school long enough ago i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:10 PM
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I think my only change would be introducing DV and SA stuff younger, 5 yos get raped and they need to know it's wrong, but I'm too dumb to know how u do that safely. I do think I have these thoughts from knowing people who've been in tht situation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:02 PM
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Agree tbh but not conservatives in general a loud group of them tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:01 PM
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I agree with everything said, I think maybe the issue with virginity is trying to make it special then, for both partners and the virgin. It's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:00 PM
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They can teach when they have funding, I'm sorry I live in the USA. Or weren't able to understand those courses. And so Ur saying we should trust parents who's only qualification is hiding a hot dog the correct way, over teachers who at least need college or uni degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:57 PM
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Some drug shows are kid friendly any I've seen near kids that aren't are monumental fuck ups but also not that common. Drag is just one person pantomimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:56 PM
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I think it does deserve to be taught for a few reasons 1. It's good to learn about different people, like learning about different religions was a part of our curriculum. 2. Those that identify within themselves but don't know what to do about it may learn who they are. 3. Helps kids be less likely to pick on a kid for being lgbtqia+ 4. Some countries u can get arrested for hate speech, teams need to know how to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:55 PM
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Some places the age of consent is 15 to 16 and I feel 18 would be best
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:54 PM
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Forgot to mention it but it was touched on at different levels from age ten and got more detailed over time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:47 PM
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I was half way through paragraph 2 when I wondered if the bible had anything to do with it. I'm happy for your kids! I'm in the same boat as u with the woman's terms but we'll get there one day,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:22 PM
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I agree it should be encouraged to wait till age of consent but even longer if possible. But I think purity culture can kinda causes more issues. What level were you feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:15 PM
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You say that almost every or all women believe this and so it's a reason to lose v card. But I'm saying I've had a ton of bad experiences with guys, it didn't change how I acted or make me give up as I could see it's not everyone and I didn't want the ones who were like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:13 PM
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Same here but with a guy who I'm guessing had been assaulted, didn't know it was wrong and assaulted me as he was too young to have many urges. Also like any kid who's being harmed at home makes me feel like we should start it age 5 with like "no no square" and how to get help stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:12 PM
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I can't count how many unsolicited dick picks I've got mid friendly chat before. I'd not dare any of them and there's probs at least 100 who have since I was 12. So I still feel like the, if they are docks find someone else rule works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:06 PM
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That sounds good! My view is probably skewed as I lost mine before there was even any pressure to lose it and it didn't go well and neither did most of my experiences for one reason or another. Thank you for the input
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:03 PM
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What are you on about now? Who's as stripping for kids? Also the book wasn't even pornographic I couldn't find a sex photo with genitals from the book. Also pretty sure even the clip I sent said it was a parent resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:49 PM
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I really think it's mainly common online, and even in person though it happens it's not an issue. There's also a lot of men who want thin blonde virgins with no body hair and a tan(or any one of these), I've never been upset about it because they clearly have very different views on sex or relationships to me and we wouldn't work anyways. It's like saying well you wouldn't dare someone with black hair, so I'm going to change my hair to get you, instead of finding someone who LOVES black hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:46 PM
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I truly don't understand that from women, it's certainly never been a thought I've even had. Although I feel like I wouldn't want those women anyway so I'd not really be bothered if that was an issue to them. If anything the reaction from these women seems like the red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:38 PM
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How long did you miss out? And I've got to say that it's definitely fun but it seems like an odd fixation, and something I feel only comes later to those fixated on it. I also feel like the pressure people put on themselves to do it early leads to bad experiences and sometimes pushes people to get force others to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:35 PM
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In this video it says it's a resource for parents. If not I still don't see an issue as kids are going through puberty earlier, especially girls and making sure they are safe, and know how to handle puberty is a good thing. As well as explaining safe sex, protection, and how to feel comfortable with it. the images I found of the books pages didn't seem to show any genitals or graphic depiction of positions, there were some I could tell were sex, but they covered any important parts anyway. I als…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:33 PM
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An educational book from the 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:21 PM
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I'd not describe it as a hedonistic fuck fest for most, though I'm sure there's some. I do agree it's looked down on, but I wonder if the waiting is just too associated to religion, and thats why it's looked down on, because churches forced that and it wasn't good. And religion on a whole just creates negatives for everyone to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:16 PM
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What book is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:13 PM
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Few issues I have with personally ever going is women can be just as bad as guys just in their own ways. I'd hate to only be around other girls as I find I often feel more relaxed in a social setting with guys as I grew up with only male friends and got picked on a lot by girls. But I'd never go to a dance club anyways But I think it's a great idea as lots of women have had awful experiences in these places and PTSD can be a very scary thing, and I'd probably be feeling safer in a place without …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:02 AM
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When i dont get to work my brian g9es to mush and i become even more depressed. So id prefer to work, its ssoemthing to do, somewhere to be, i can spend it on whatever i want and theres people to speak to. But i dont have friends so that maybe alters thngs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:53 PM
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All very good reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:26 PM
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Answer to thee question Yes, mostly people i met during a ohase of my life where domitment wasnt something i enjoyed, but they tended to be people who could be put in the category of "reminding me of quagmire somehow" (either atitude to women, or the guy who had streight up leapord print bedding and pants). But also guys who seemed to be largely aproaching from a sexual aspect, although i enjoyed it theres no lying and saying it didnt just mzke me think of them as sexual too. Guys id commit too …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:24 PM
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I dont think every woman picks for where a man is now. I think every woman picks for what they feel will make them happy at the time. Thats why theres so many versions of "how women can fix dating". Some do pick for how much money someone has coz they like money. Some pick for the humour because thats most important for them in life. Same with intelligence, looks, personality, sex, caring, drugs ect. Theres so many different reasons women get with men, the fact ive seen so many posts complajn ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:03 AM
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Tbf coz it's a Monday some longer time off, Christmas day and stuff but also the weekend builds into it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:41 AM
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Dude there were 3 dudes who were interested in me, young, and against women nd very red pilled. You maybe didn't notice them ig, but it's neither nerds or criminals I'm referring to, I was jn both groups and didn't have issues with the people in them. But there's these guys who say things like "bet her pussy looks like gross ham" (genuine quote) about girls they don't even know well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:38 PM
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Of course they can, I'm not disputing that but what difference does someone being bisexual make? Trans there's different part and things, and that can effect things for sure i can understand that. But what exactly changes when someone's bi vs straight
/r/MensRights11/12/23 02:27 PM
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I don't think it's a gendered issue. I also don't think I dodged the question as personally I believe there's lots of reasons someone may be single for a long time, including simply not meeting the right person yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:25 PM
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I feel this is different though because being trans is a physical difference and maybe even emotional difference to who u are as a person in a relationship. But being bisexual doesn't really, there's nothing different being with a bi person compared to the exact same person who's straight
/r/MensRights11/12/23 03:11 AM
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I believe I have no knowledge to what causes it most, and generalisation 2ont work. But I think that's why women end up believing that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:01 AM
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Also like, women also love control a equal amount? There's likely and equal number of narcissists etc too. So idk why it's even brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:03 PM
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I'd say I agree, to some extent. There's certainly men who never had a girlfriend because the were awful, and I think this has caused most women to assume that. But I think we also all knew a guy at school, maybe a few of them. Who w9uld just insult other women, or act in incredibly sexist ways. They'd claim it came from being ignored by women (at age 14 or something) and would nott listen to a single woman about how they were messing up for themselves. Often I'd say it's probs the first guy who…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:48 PM
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If a person isn't taught how to treat people it goes wrong. I don't think there's a need for this to happen as is mentioned in the post as even in relationships its all very general what's okay behaviour and what isn't, no matter what gender the person is.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 06:21 AM
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Think it's comes down to personal preference some prefer shaved some prefer not, some don't care. That goes for all genders,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:13 AM
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Do you not think that will just achieve more hurt, and then more anger from people? I wouldn't bully someone because I want us to get along, and I also wouldn't choose to treat someone better because they picked on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:11 AM
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I guess u could say that? But some of those are honestly my preferences too. I wouldn't have picked someone over the people I had, I don't regret any of them based on how they looked and didn't move on despite having options show up who would be more attractive to typical red pill standards (tall, strong, money, jawline,confidence, a car etc). Most of these guys were poor, I often saved for things for them rather than the other way round. And the things that stood out to me and I hear girls in r…
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 05:32 AM
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Well considering I looked at it from his point of veiw, felt he felt bad and felt bad for him, I can understand. It's not like women don't experience this sort of thing either, so it's very easy to imagine. That's why I tried give a helpful tip to ask for help without saying it and talk about what someone wants without saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:50 PM
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I was meaning like 30s and 60s tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:50 PM
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I said i dont like them, I honestly just don't find them to be my type.As I said my friend does and I by no means think she's wrong for that. It was just an easy personal example of it being a personal choice, not a gendered thing. I don't feel stating personal preference (especially in the way I did along with mentioning having no issues with others liking it) could cause any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:37 AM
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Ik but I just want one of them to see that if they can just keep up the hope and become/stay as a good person they don't have to feel miserable and believe there's no chance for them. Iwishi could help them see that things maybe aren't so depressing as it may seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:08 AM
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through this all I've done is given the positives that can happen and said how speaking is important for things to move past that point. And if she wasn't right for him he still can meet someone. It's not worth getting hung up on people who don't like us. I've also never been a virgin or had awkward sex in my whole entire life. And I have to be told to think about others perspectives. I already have thought about how he felt and felt bad for him, but I'm not talking to him and I'm not saying he …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:58 AM
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My first crush is about 5ft possibly under, and always was shorter than me. I dated guys with visible bad dental issues, who couldn't cope with haircuts (or were in the grow out phase), who were thin and weeker than me, or crazy strong, guys with skin issues, guys who were overweight, guys with physical struggles,guys with spots, A lot of my partners had a mixture of these things and others that red pill men think are deal breakers. They aren't, just treat me like an equal, have fun, and be hone…
/r/ExRedPill08/12/23 07:56 AM
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We'd not rather fuck a dildo than an average guy. I honesl5y had one for a week and hated it. Dick picks don't turn people on. At most they can if u like the person and get excited they are excited, but a random dick pick may aswell be a naked rat. Send something prettier than that, as a bi person, a pushy is far better looking than a dick, and I prefer guys. And coz when we get raped we didn't want it to happen so we report it and we are scared of it happening. I know u probably are just desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:40 AM
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I'm a woman, but the thing that hurts me most is feminists "men are bad" approach and a complete ignorance towards all the female on men and female on female abuse in this world. Rape, sa, violence, its qll ignored coz its a woman.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 07:25 AM
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It really depends what we are talking about here, there's Situations people put suspicion onto men too quick, the same can be said about women. And not just in far right Internet corners. Again not got much to do with what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:08 AM
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Hold out dude, I met my ex when he was around your age and had no real experience, similar diagnosis and stuff. There's still hope and working on avoiding being angry and jaded is such a positive step! He's got a girlfriend and a kid now!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:47 AM
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Honestly I'm still figuring out what the pills mean but I'm not red pilled: I don't believe women as a whole are a problem or in the alpha male or control and opressiveness a lot for it seems to mention, as well as the general "you said fuck you to me so I say fuck u back louder" approach. I'm not blue pilled: I don't see men as a whole a problem. I also don't believe men always have fair treatment and I in part support mens tights activism and see areas where men really need help. I might be pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:44 AM
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Likely you just don't see what the person on their arm sees. Its like I don't like body builder type guys, never have, but my friend does and it doesn't mean she's wrong for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:30 AM
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The apology as a group for a handful of people in it is not right. The thing you linked isn't okay. But it hasn't got anything to do with my initial statement. People of all walks of life's, men, women, 80yos, kids, rich, poor can all have very negative experiences of eachother, we can all experience extreme hurt, we all have negative things happen. We can also all have the same positive interactions, make good impressions on people, and show ourselves as being good people. Most of my stance bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:28 AM
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I mean we can't fully understand her or what happened. But I you are right j still don't feel it goes to the depths you say. He clearly didn't handle it how she would of likes but she tried speak and he wasn't able. ,aye she's just looking for a partner who's very open? Maybe someone who isn't able to talk about sex as well as do it isn't her type? Either way I don't know. And I know that the effects of broken trust can make you very wary, especially if its something that makes u uncomfortable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:21 AM
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Hey at least u weren't actually Russian or ud have ended up saying yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:16 AM
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I'm giving advice to people who are nervous to admit something, so they don't have to admit it if they want to ask for advice. I'm purely trying to help out, I'm not saying it needs to be omitted. It's like I'd say "sorry j might be a bit jumpy" rather than "I got sexually assaulted so I might panick" doesn't, mean jts bad to bring it up, but it is awkward and i don't like doing it so I'll just omit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:12 AM
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Guess what? I also don't support that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:09 AM
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But it has literally nothing to do with the sex? I'm with a more experienced guy who although experienced wasn't more confident or better than the first timers were by the time we split up. It was other parts of the relationships that fell about as I stated to another person in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:08 AM
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Right so I'll tell u jn more detail then. Guy one hit me, kicked me, tried strangle me, also wasn't that keen on me anyway and was more dating me to show of he could get some as we were younger. Together 6ish months Guy two, was lovely but cheated often and was bad for shouting inappropriate stuff in public, it set of my social anxiety and after a year I decided we probs wouldn't get over it as he was very set jn his ways. We still chat sometimes and I helped him with a lot. Together 1 year Guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:05 AM
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Sorry j was assuming your relationship was very positive. I was more meaning why do it when as you said there are negatives to every positive, and what lead you there. Thank you for answering either way. And I could come up with some guesses, but I want to hear what you see as some of the reasons it is, especially as I've heard most of what I can come up with can be fixed with things like prenups etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:58 AM
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I'm no longer with them and with a more experienced guy now being honest, but for other reasons than them being first timers. Knowing it was their first time and I tended to be a lot more accommodating and eager to help them enjoy themselves, as well as understanding they wouldn't be a good at sex in the beggining. If the more emotional and other parts of those relationships worked I would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:55 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a 'woman take" but it's certainly a bad take and from what uve said they sound like a d-bag, I had a similar incident happen to me at school when j was being bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:52 AM
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if you do gp there and worry you won't be good something like "so what do you prefer a guy to do to you " or "do you have anything you would really like me to do" or "is there a certain way you like this done" might help. Don't have to mention it, and if she questions you and you aren't ready a quick "well everyone likes it different and I want to try get this right for you" would work. Also I'd feel like the guys super into me/caring/attentive for doing it. And u don't have to lie, just omit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:49 AM
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Pretty sure he left him for not talking about it and opening up with her about something she didn't seem to concerned about but was obvious to her already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:46 AM
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As someone who's been with a few first timer men, conversations need to happen for the man to really get what he's trying to do. Often times if it's not spoke about it leads to the guy being nervous, probably not very good (who is first time around) and uncomfortable. And the woman is left to either pretend as to encourage him, and make sure he enjoys incase it is the first, or to flat out just not enjoy it and stop it to try talk. Pretending can cause bad habits, also maybe he's just never got …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:45 AM
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What happened that u called someone that and got banned? Like what were u responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:41 AM
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Why get married if you only sse it as negative? And what makes you feel women have more positive outcomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:34 AM
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Who's the they you are talking about? And I'm sure that ud find there's women who can relate to you, just as there are men who act like the women who hurt you. There's no sense in stooping to the level of the people that hurt you unless your trying to prove they were acting correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:13 AM
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Probably largely because of the taboo of age gap relationships tbh. I know a few people dating older by choice, and they get made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:12 AM
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What exactly does saying the other side deserves bad treatment do to improve the way people treat you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:09 AM
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Not all women are hurting you, not all men are hurting women, not all white people are racist, the list goes on. Just because there's bad people in a group doesn't mean the group is bad, leaning into this 'us against them' behaviour can only make things worse and either sides veiw more extreme, treat others how you wish to be treated. Also just because a woman is not your type doesn't mean she isn't beautiful, just like a man who isn't my type can still be beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:08 AM
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Hey I really think you could show a little more empathy here. There are many many stories of men raising/ paying child support for kids who weren't theirs even in the event where they were 100% sure they weren't being cheeted on. And this has messed with their lives for years. Obviously to a man hearing these it would make them feel a need to protect themselves, much like women reading of how a man has hurt a women and putting precautions in place. I feel it should even be a mandatory thing befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:52 AM
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There's also women who absolutely hate those things, if they were veiwed by the majority as good things we wouldn't class them as being bad.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:14 AM
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I feel like both genders say the same things, I don't think anyone really benefits from this but there's no way to change it for anyone without forcing people into relationships. Also I'm not sure what you mean by saying men torture ugly women. Also on both sides the people who class as/would class themselves as the lowest ugliest people still can get love, there's no question about that to me, but it is dependent on circumstances, timing, and who u run into, just like any attempt at finding som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:07 AM
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Looks height and length aren't what matters. Personality matters most for a successful healthy relationship. Disks will insult anyone based on whatever they think hurts most, men aren't innocent of insulting looks at all. The things is if you find a good person they won't be doing that regardless of gender. Just take it as a positive that the lady told on themselves for not being a good partner and move on. Also my most used insults for men include "pedo' where appropriate, and various swear wor…
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 10:04 PM
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I get that but that doesnt change what words and frazes relate to in others heads. If you are trying to talk to people about why somethings important you should show them the positive and strong arguments first and not involve things that are likely to derail the conversation. Like instead of incel, describe it, instead of believe all women explain you worry people arent being listened to who have told the truth. You get me? It also puts distance between the people claiming to be it and the peop…
/r/MensRights19/11/22 05:02 PM
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I know they do and if a woman was saying "why dont men listen to us in conversation when we say believe all women" for example, as it's the closest I can think of. I'd also be saying that that Frase is not good, and that because some women who claim to be victims but arent, will be stuck in peoples heads. I'm not saying no women should be believed by pointing it out I dont think the extreme end of incels are all men, or even all incels. But it is how people with opposing veiws or the people they…
/r/MensRights19/11/22 04:05 PM
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I do agree but the thing is these people sometimes also chose to label themselves that. It's a complicated subject to figure out. But I agree not all incels are the ones who are so bad they are notable, and not all are even nasty at all. But the label now has this secondary but stronger meaning of just a not nice quite pushy guy
/r/MensRights19/11/22 01:01 PM
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I am talking about people who call themselves incels and are extremely agressive after being turned down, I dont really think this is a feminist veiw point, I was just think perhaps that word is a reason people arent listening or talking productively, maybe theres a better way to word it?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 12:02 PM
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Honestly I think the mention of incels doesnt help. And I'm not talking incels who are decent measured people, but the extreme ones who get angry/aggressive towards women who dont want them. Women hate them, and interacting with them, and I think it just makes them less open to the conversation. Because to them it's that guy who said x,y,z because they didnt want him, or that guy who started threatening them because they said no. I know the terms correct for people who cant have sex.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 11:42 AM
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I find incels (who act in specifically antisocial ways or are angressive, like the extreme end) are probably the worst reflection of men usually Then Simps, if they are causing harm or just being cringe. Well in terms of people who arent causing a crime.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 11:38 AM
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I feel bad because ik specifically for men it's usually avoided in headlines but ye.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 10:55 PM
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Yes I have linked that on another post it's a great place from what I've heard, lots of positives reviews from my local one anyway.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 01:59 PM
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I'm a woman so not me but I've heard it happen. The woman kept saying she was pregnant or forcing unprotected sex (ok the word I just dont like saying it, I'm not minimising) so he thought it was very possible. He luckily avoided getting married but its fucking scary. And no one saw any issue with her behaviour until me. Makes me sick, both her exs are lovely people tbh
/r/MensRights18/11/22 01:15 PM
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I'm glad you got to do that project with him, sounds like you both got something out of it. I had some same experiences with my dad like this, like hed rarely open up but if I went out to walk the dog with him or sat handing him tools or was helping at the farm I'd get way more information just about stuff, including how he felt about things, but also advice. Allways make effort if he wants to do something now.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 11:54 AM
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I dont believe the uk ones do though wich is why I linked them.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 09:26 AM
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Mens sheds in the UK They're community spaces for men to connect, converse and create. The activities are often similar to those of garden sheds, but for groups of men to enjoy together. They help reduce loneliness and isolation, but most importantly, they’re fun.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 07:46 AM
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Preface this with I am a woman. But I've seen a lot of positive interactions and openness from guys who are doing a group project or something together, especially more traditionally "manly" things like working on cars or woodwork etc. I'm guessing the fact they are doing something considered manly by most it makes them feel free to open up a bit more, and group work encourages people to speak. And once the ice is broken while talking about the project it feels a lot easier to talk to someone ne…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 06:31 AM
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I mean the first one is refferencing being gay but the second example is literally just someone asking if streight men like women. From my understanding they say those things because they feel men just want to use them. Equally bad veiw of half the population but idk how much this has to do with insulting gays. The first one I also think is used when a guy says something like "men are less x than women" to mean men are better. I'm not even sure the first ones an insult but feel free to correct m…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 06:03 AM
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I have seen a mens only support place with a big workshop among other things, I dont go I'm a girl, and I havent seen any pushback at all against it and it gets loads of money raised. Hopefully its showing a change to support men.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 10:01 AM
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What makes you feel its better for me not to be involved?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:15 AM
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What is this law is it American or UK? Ik my case in the UK is definitely being innocent till proven guilty from how its been so I'm a bit confused by this.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:13 AM
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Is there actual likely hood of this becoming law or is it mostly an extreme veiw?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:11 AM
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The only thing confusing me is it is so difficult to get convictions about true reports of sa, well I do know only ik if im being truthful but at the same time it's b3en near impossible and the slightest slip up or misspeak from me could ruin it all. And I think 1 I added to much personal feeling to it and I shouldn't have 2 you guys meant social accusations and I had looked at criminal like police or trial accusation stuff. And I'm so sorry about that, I hope you don't have those people in your…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:10 AM
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I totally get that I am currently going to trial as a victim in a case so I think j just wound myself up thinking of that rather than big picture and got a bit too personal about it when I shouldn't have. And I totally agree men are victims of sexual violence at around 40 to 60 as I remember reading research that said that and I've had to tell guys stuff wasn't okay and help them deal with it after,
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:07 AM
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I'll read it soon I did follow that case
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:01 AM
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Idk what DD stands for. I might not because I'm a woman, and a lot of this I dont have experience of.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 02:04 AM
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Yeah I posted mainly because I'm a woman who wants to understand more and specifically what people feel is most important, the people it actually effects. I havent seen a post that is asking the same question and I want it explained in a way that's for someone who may not usually experience the same stuff.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 01:41 AM
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?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 01:33 AM
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None, what's fishy about it
/r/MensRights31/10/22 01:01 AM
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But is that counter acted by the lifespan being shorter? And men tend to be more commonly doing extreme sports etc? Can that change it? Also how many are gay? I feel theres a lot of different factors here.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:48 PM
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I agree, I have always thought that those outdated veiws would only end up making the mums feel good but probably hurting everyone else.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:32 PM
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That's shocking to me purely as I've met a lot of online "friends" and it was mainly USA that seemed to have almost a 50/50 split between intact and circumcised, and I've never seen one in the UK, I guess u are right and it could be the age of them. And I thought it had fully gone away as I'd never heard about it despite floating round a lot of mens rights groups. I will need to go look into this more and see where and how it happens as it's pretty serious stuff
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:31 PM
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Following that now, thank you
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:28 PM
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I have heard about this stuff before and it really shocks me, I've got to say I've still yet to meet a guys s active as I want to be and hearing they "only think about sex" totally confuses me. And yeah the whole if you look you are predatory is madness. Like full on staring is maybe pushing the line a touch but looking especially if someones making noise or doing something distracting shouldn't be.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:28 PM
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All laws should defo be innocent until proven guilty imo, I didnt even know that was an argument.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:25 PM
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My bf rn would have benefitted from these shelters and people believing men and boys can be victims of parents and siblings. He didnt get help or get away until he got with me and I'm basically his only support. No one told him that hes not alone in this before.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:23 PM
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Thank you that deffinately does make sense
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:16 PM
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I guess that makes sense I just feel from the research I've seen it's sort of a non issue, that is semi fabricated by media. I in no way want there to be men who are innocent getting their lives ruined, but it seems to be the same for all crimes and it's just this one is blown out of proportion in terms of coverage in news. I do sort of wonder tho if by the time we get to that stage it may drop more just due to both sexes knowing more and there being less of the hate against men in the public co…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:10 PM
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Even I remember being called violent to women, as a woman, who also likes women more than friends, because I wanted more male versions of like womens aid. I didnt even say anything about taking away resources from them.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:05 PM
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I honestly dont understand why it's still a thing, the science behind it isnt science basically "it's not harmful" when it is to the guys psychy and their sexual relationships once he grows up and it doesnt even keep it cleaner, just teach the kid to clean it properly. Well tell I assume, I dont do great with kids so idk how they learn that. I live in the uk tho so it's far less common than the usa and some other places
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:02 PM
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I'm a little confused by what you mean though I took the person who replied to that's comment to heart and i do know it's a vast overstep to allways be on defensive around guys i was wondering what he thought the inbetween measured lessons would be between that and doing nothing about it.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:00 PM
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Hey I agree with most everything on there, and I do think perhaps with more mental health help and support through tough times and bad relationships with women that maybe male virginity would go back down as ik for me once I sorted myself out it was easier to relate and communicate with others. Or prostitution becomes legal and looked after profession as I feel it should be, then we all have s chance. The only thing I dont agree with is false accusations, research I saw in an article by the bbc …
/r/MensRights30/10/22 10:58 PM
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Those are all super valid, I did research male dv and sa convictions, accusations and predicted numbers and stumbling upon info on the amount of resources for men being so low made me feel a bit sick. I do want to work to change this one once I figure out how.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 10:24 PM
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No worries ik a clear answer would be near impossible I just thought asking here would get a lot of answers and help me see it better from guys povs. I do have a question if it's okay to ask. I have allways tried not to see guys as a danger but I have had 4 guys do some horrible stuff to me at different times. What would you say would be better advice to girls than either nothing or seeing guys as a threat? And ofc UK women can be the abuser and men the victims too, but for me it's a thing i str…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 10:19 PM
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Honestly I only responded because ik how judged it must make men feel but it isnt really judgement, it's like as fear of heights or costume characters or clowns it doesnt make much sense. And that's being a really kind person but isnt necessary, I always wish I could say thank you to guys like you who do that, but being a big chicken I never get the chance, so thank you!
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:56 PM
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Tbf over seen a few guys ignore behaviour for women's looks too. I think it's just a general issue with humans
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:10 PM
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Tell them the vikings were extremely manky and mostly had long hair.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:07 PM
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As a girl the being angry meaning ur a threat thing annoys me so much. People threatened to tell my family I spoke to a guy because he's "violent", in other words he hurt himself on inanimate objects and some vandalism too. He hadn't got any history of hurting people and was super sweet.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:06 PM
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I find it odd purely because the only guys ik who know the songs from it or possibly songs / watch it are my very straight boyfriend and a couple,e of his friends.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:00 PM
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I just think guys are better at making a big group of friends, so they know most of their classmates and get on with almost all the other guys. And the more of the rooms your friend the more likely you are to mess round and have fun. Girls are usually keeping up appearances for that time so they are less likely to. obvs there's a lot of exceptions to those things too but that's the vibe I got at school
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:55 PM
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I'm a woman and this annoys me too, in a different way, I'm competitive and strong and constantly having the heavier things tak3n off me or being told to leave it to a guy I can see is injured somehow or quite old annoys me. It's not benefitting either person then. I used to work for a Chinese man who would carry 1 bag of rice per run and block off the till for 15 minutes unloading his rice. He wouldn't let me carry it and because I don't have a bad back I could take 2 to 3 a run, and if we both…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:51 PM
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Tbf I think it is without the change, some people just like to fantasise or do more violent or controlling kinks. Like I'd get locked up for deliberately injuring someone, but i have been asked to before.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:43 PM
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Hey I'm a girl n I've had bad experiences with men, n I've found most people who have been hurt by a man are the same about it. I think it started from it being a common ptsd thing, and because of people online backing each other up about it its lead to a sort of widespread paranoia aswell from that and news stories. And I think it loans towards men purely because they are a bit bigger or stronger often as well as the politics that are shared more online. I think for most, and definitely me we k…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:40 PM
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Of women, yes, and probably close to the amount who are vocal for women to be in other jobs
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:04 PM
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More than a few but not a fair amount yet.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:52 PM
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1 in 10 is a fair few.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:48 PM
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It sounds a lot like your saying if men are racist at all you wont support any men.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:21 PM
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So then I should have a choice as a female in my partner getting a vasectomy?
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:18 PM
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I see every thought and belief has become a fair bit more extreme right now, negative and positive. I think it's just a general thing of tensions rising and it wont stop for a while. I'm guessing until something big happens.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:12 PM
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I'm from the uk and my exams at the end of the year were my results for the year other than 1 subject that required a project completed. And that was graphic communication and it would be stupid not to have coursework for it.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:03 PM
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As a woman who's had sex often to say the least I have been called an incel online for supporting mens rights
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:55 AM
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I will say that in fairness I've seen a fair few women wanting more women in construction and the trades aswell.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:52 AM
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I think everyone just needs to be more aware that some people arent all people in that group. Like u may have had a lot of white guys be racist towards you but I'm sure more havent been racist to you. It's like when women say men are rapists, not all men are rapists, unsurprisingly. It's the same thing. White guys probably are just the focus because they are the most common group of guys in the english speaking world.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:22 AM
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