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Question For Womenjbo99/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:37 PM
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Discussionjbo99/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:59 PM
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Purge Week!jbo99/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:38 PM
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Tbf it says the same about men
/r/seduction07/05/24 04:18 PM
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I feel like there’s a healthy range depending on age and if it deviated outside of it, it’s a hard no from me. At 30 my reaction to 10+ is a lot different than it was at 23. I think hypersexuality is a massive turn off and most men probably would too. My personal body count is 25 and definitely don’t think I’d date someone with a higher one
/r/seduction07/05/24 04:16 PM
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I think it’s a fallacy to tightly couple outward presentation so tightly with sexual needs and wants. I think there are extraverted party girls who can get their hearts broken by a fuck boy. I think there are shy innocent girls who would enjoy a quick fuck. The key is communication and to ask straightforwardly what she is looking for and be honest about what you’re looking for.
/r/seduction04/03/24 07:34 PM
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This is one of the greatest articles ever written, I have been searching for a while. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:29 AM
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Our emotions and intuitions are often guided by extremely strong logic that our rational brain is too dumb to work out in time. This is why they exist. There’s such thing as unhealthy levels of emotionality and irrational behaviors but most of the time men say this in my experience they’re just too dumb to work out the underlying rationale of the behavior in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:22 AM
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100%. You could look like Jason mamoa but if you’re unconfident you’ll struggle
/r/seduction29/01/24 10:37 PM
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I think hook up culture is a hack of our brain circuitry like drugs and alcohol. Like we’re designed to experience deep feelings of attraction and then have sex in the context of that attraction, not just fuck around to get ourselves off with one another. I think the sexual liberation movement was a healthy response to conservative shame culture where like a girl having sex with her high school boyfriend was met with near disownment. Obviously that sort of culture of shame is sort of fucked up. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:56 PM
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I’d buy what you were saying if you could present a less detestable male figure crying and receiving similar vitriol. I don’t think people make fun of Peterson because they view him as a weak male and have disdain for weak men, I think it’s a combination of just generally detesting him and his particular brand conflicting somewhat with being gratuitously emotional on tv
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:48 PM
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Why would anyone complain about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:28 AM
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Yeah I agree with this. Opening up about what moves you women definitely want. Like, you love your baby niece or a sappy commercial makes you tear up a bit is something a lot of women love. But women seem to universally disdain like anxieties about your place in the world or your inner fears. Things that seem “weak”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:09 PM
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Saved. Thanks king
/r/seduction05/05/23 05:00 PM
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What does emotional and dating leverage mean here? What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:04 PM
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I can't tell if you're trolling but I'm just telling you that a bedroom dynamic where one party (the dom) tell the other party (the sub) what to do, given certain pre-agreed upon guardrails, is pretty common. Check out r/sex. Nothing about that is sexually violent so long as both parties are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:59 PM
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Hahaha the 2nd to last line. Tale as old as time. I'd hate to be that husband
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:07 PM
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I think calling someone a monster for indulging in a fairly benign and common kink is a you problem honestly. Dom sub is pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:05 PM
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I mean she’s not sick she’s like wildly successful and happy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:50 PM
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Haha why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:15 PM
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Free use is when I can do whatever I want to her / she does whatever I say for an afternoon or full day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:50 PM
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I realize you think you’re being clever but writing law school exams isn’t the same thing as writing a Reddit post or a sales email or a business report or any number of things where brevity and straightforwardness lead to better outcomes. But yeah keep on giving advice from the ivory tower I’m sure we all need it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:26 PM
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Just some advice for life in general - this much writing will never get read. 3k characters is a good rule of thumb. Use chatgpt to summarize this and then post it as a comment to get some actual engagement
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:37 PM
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Yeah this is my theory and most of the arguments I've heard confirm it. Like, the idea that ripping your partners heart out is somehow less of a power move than fucking them after a night out at a club one time is really insane and reeks of never having actually had a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:44 PM
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This feels more directed at women’s preferences for height than anything else honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:18 PM
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lol I agree with 100% of this comment I fucking loathe myself rn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:14 PM
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I think men when it comes to invalidations or slights towards our egos are insanely irrational and emotional. I think most men make significant mistakes when their egos are bruised even slightly. It causes irrational behavior. Not really sure what the rebuttal is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:55 PM
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So like you think a more beta guy can “alpha widow” a woman essentially? An illustrative example here would be to draw on Titanic like do you think Jack from titanic you think “alpha widowed” Rose?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:45 PM
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What does this have to do with my point? My core argument is like I’m a pretty beta dude, but sexually and emotionally things are so good that any subsequent guy would probably experience her “widowed” to some extent and it’s a flaw in red pill theory. It’s like, a bad breakup will leave scars. I don’t see how they are different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:24 PM
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Uh I’m not sure you’re interpreting me correctly but I’m pointing out a flaw in red pill theory. I think we’re on the same team
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:19 PM
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Yeah interesting I mean I think red pill theory is that like 8 and 6 aren’t really even relevant. Like there are men who are probably 8s who are less alpha than some guy who’s a 5 and just is a fucking jerk and dominates. And a relationship with the alpha guy would cause a woman to be like sort of broken and obnoxious to any subsequent partners who aren’t as good. But my point is like I’m very beta by any definition and I’m convinced that sexually any next guy should be very jealous and she migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:17 PM
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I think the next guy should be jealous because we fucked like 3 times per day for a while when we first met, I’ve cum on her face, we’ve done freeuse for hours where I make her do whatever I want etc. But I really think she’d miss the affectionate parts of the relationship and a more classically alpha guy who is RP or whatever wouldn’t be able to give her those sorts of emotional experiences. I mean maybe it’s possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:13 PM
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Not really an answer to the question. Why is a painful breakup any different than getting alpha widowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:03 PM
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Can confirm lol I drive my girlfriend crazy and she doesn't respect me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:35 PM
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“Titty in years” lmao nailed it
/r/seduction29/10/22 04:46 AM
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I think the point for me is that she is growing in her level of emotional attachment but distancing sexually and it seems that there might be an opposing relationship between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:35 AM
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Physical touch. We’ve had a ton of physical touch during the whole relationship. To be clear - emotionally she is growing more and more attached it’s just sexually where she’s pulling back
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:36 PM
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Ironclad sense of self. Ask out women and make your intentions known early and often. This is what makes it happen. The second one for me took years to figure out. You've got to just make your position known and if she's not into it, no problem. She'll probably respect you more than you think. And if she doesn't, fuck it, she's missing out and you've got a world of other women to go talk to.
/r/seduction22/09/22 01:37 PM
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I am an entrepreneur, just got a significant amount of funding and am very optimistic about my business. I'm pretty when I tell women what I do they think it's probably a dude in a garage. Doesn't help at all.
/r/seduction30/08/22 10:47 PM
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Yep this worked for me for years. Developed an alcohol problem, have been sober 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:44 PM
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Yeah I mean I like many socially awkward people am very good at deeper relationship issues and serious conversations, it's those first steps that trip me up. It's sad. I wish I was more confident. I've got this girl I'm so into it's not even funny and I just know if I could get past these early first steps it would so work but I just trip up and trip up. I'm extremely confident in my physical attractiveness but none of it shows because I'm so socially awkward lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:04 PM
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I'm not directing this at you like obviously I agree with your advice, but it's funny how the advice to people in dating tends to be oh just be yourself and the right person will come along. No. It's a never ending sequence of personal improvements in order to find love and nobody should pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:36 PM
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What do you recommend guys without social skills do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:23 PM
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I’d trade being fit for being a smooth talker any day of the week. I think you should be thrilled about what you have.
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:26 AM
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Meds really help. Right there with you man. I know the shame of a girl seeing you and initially thinking you’re put together, only to recoil once she hears you speak. Been there so many times. I’m being treated for anxiety and it feels like my brain is starting to work. Been single for 7 years though. I’ll always regret not getting help sooner and will always be sad about the experiences I probably missed out on. But start now.
/r/seduction17/08/22 09:01 PM
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I think women in general like don't really care about compliments about their boobs. Like, they're just there. It's hard to get a woman jazzed up about sexy talk aimed at their boobs because they don't do anything to make them better, they just are what they are. This is my experience. I'm not really sure why but I feel like they want to hear more about their ass than their boobs by a huge amount.
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:03 PM
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Can 100% relate to your situation and these sorts of debilitating thoughts. However I really think that we men are in our prime from roughly 27-35 or so. I think that there are tons and tons of women in the like 26-30 range who are really looking to settle down and will be there for the right guy. In your case I think you can and should go for women in this age range and really work at it. You can totally get the right person and just settle into it at 31. It's definitely the time to start going…
/r/seduction07/08/22 08:13 PM
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Therapy. This is your best chance. I’m right there with you and am finding therapy helps
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:54 AM
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What do you mean by “work”? Like do people find successful arrangements where both people are totally on the same page the whole time? Yeah. Can it get messy? Also yeah. I think the key is for both people to be pretty confident that there’s not really romantic compatibility and it’s just for sex. It’s sort of a sad thing imo, I cut off my FWB because I got sort of depressed by the whole thing but it works well for a lot of people
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:53 AM
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Nice - comes from a place of fear Friendly - comes from a place of generosity
/r/seduction07/05/22 02:03 PM
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This happened to me. Went for like 30 minutes, had to use my hand. Second time was like 20 seconds. Just jump back in there man! It’s fun stuff and kind of the point of life, enjoy it
/r/seduction13/04/22 11:33 PM
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I am head over heels just bend over backwards in love with a girl who is extremely shy and described herself to me as a very anxious person. I don’t think she wants me back. So yes.
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:41 PM
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Can vouch for the last sentence there
/r/seduction28/02/22 01:28 AM
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The vast majority of people are shitty then…
/r/seduction27/02/22 06:11 PM
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100%. People see it as an opportunity to take advantage of
/r/seduction27/02/22 06:10 PM
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You said it right there in your post. A "dating hiatus". Voluntary. The women you are describing are choosing not to date. Men just can't get dates altogether. See the difference? I think this is a perfect illustration for why it is different for men and women. I of course can appreciate that women are frustrated not to find men then really do like and have a deep connection with. But you've got options, you're getting practice, you're able to enjoy the experience if you choose to. Many men can'…
/r/seduction24/02/22 01:13 AM
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We’re all animals. We pretend not to be but we just are
/r/seduction19/01/22 03:40 PM
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Well attracted in a romantic sense. Obviously I want to have sex otherwise we wouldn’t be FWB but there’s no sort of butterflies or emotion at all
/r/seduction19/01/22 02:33 PM
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I would rephrase this more to say that I’ve gone after FWB situations with girls I’m not attracted to
/r/seduction19/01/22 03:59 AM
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I mean there’s men like Ronaldo or Leonardo DiCaprio who like literally any woman would be with. I don’t think women have an equivalent for this. Like I’d be totally star struck over someone like Gal Gadot as would any man but I actually don’t know if the level of attraction towards her is that much higher than towards a hot woman at a club or something. Don’t get me wrong it’s higher, but I think for women towards men the effect is just completely different. Women really really want those top t…
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:14 AM
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It’s sort of a floor and ceiling thing. Women have high floors and low ceilings ie the vast majority of women can easily be pretty attractive to the point where they have a good SMV however there isn’t much they can do to truly elevate themselves to the point where a high SMV man absolutely must have them. For men you can be a super low floor (ie have literally no options at all which is true for tons of guys) but a crazy high ceiling to where basically any woman will want you in whatever capaci…
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:02 AM
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No it’s literally a common expression you’re just wrong like look it up
/r/seduction04/01/22 10:16 PM
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This is such a virtue signaling comment lol withholding sex is a very common term for when someone in a relationship won’t have sex. Nobody thinks anyone should be forced to have sex but like this is just normal language. People withhold sex in relationships all the time it just means that for whatever reason they refuse to have it
/r/seduction04/01/22 02:19 PM
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It’s the porn
/r/seduction02/01/22 10:37 PM
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I did this and it was worth it. I say get in there. Break that slump
/r/seduction28/12/21 02:51 AM
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This. All of life is about taking action getting reps and improving. Dating is the same
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:50 PM
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Linking it may be but you can't deny the trend that women are way unhappier now and are getting married less and less and having less children especially in the demographics most adherent to progressive values. I am a man who considers myself progressive and feminist but I do get worried about cavalier attitudes towards relationships and sex and feel like it may indeed harm people not to treat sex with more seriousness and intimacy. So yeah I mean while you're right we can only speculate about c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:26 PM
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So you can see how suicide rate doesn't equal unhappiness by itself right? Even though women don't kill themselves as often they can be unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:11 PM
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So everyone who doesn't kill themself is happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:53 PM
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I don't understand why people don't account for intelligence in these types of conversations. In my opinion there are 100% women who are super attracted and turned on by these dangerous men like you describe. They are almost always dumb as shit. Like when I see the women accompanying sociopathic dudes who scare the shit out of people these women tend to be obviously vapid and stupid. What like hot healthy and reasonably intelligent women do you guys see gravitating towards these insane dark tria…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:50 PM
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Yes. Yes. There’s something going on. I don’t really know what or why but all I know is my friends dating Indian / middle eastern women are insanely happy, the girls are beyond cool, and the white women I see and interact with bring nothing but judgment and problems
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:24 AM
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Dude. Stop dating white women. This is the key. Dating white women is like having another job. Date a brown girl and she’ll be supportive and a good partner, great mom, likely will cook better etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:08 AM
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That hurts to read. Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:03 PM
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Any guy will “stop trying” more and more into a relationship. The simple reality is we want to date people and then have them fall into the routine of our lives not just be constantly trying to impress all the time. Obviously there’s a balance to be had but it’s not unnatural that this happens. What is the issue? Like do they just stop talking to you altogether or what? Like what exactly changes after sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:25 AM
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That guy nitpicked one of my purple arguments with the finest toothed comb you’ve ever seen and made me reword a post because of its “implications” but will let the most insane anti scientific incel shit fly left and right. Fuck that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:29 PM
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Am this guy. Have had sex with this woman off apps. Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:13 PM
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Women ticking up above men is about to trigger the everliving fuck out of like 80% of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:10 PM
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You can’t trot out evidence for something completely in controversial and not being discussed and then smuggle in that you’ve proven your entire case with evidence. You haven’t. You’ve demonstrated that obesity has gone up over time. No shit. Also “you were point blank wrong about modern women being healthier” is a ridiculous line if you’re gonna argue prehistoric women were healthier than modern women that’d be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Check out the maternal mortality rate for an ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:30 AM
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You produced evidence that people were less obese in prehistoric times. This hardly establishes anything… nobody in a million years would fight you on that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:26 AM
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Nobody here ever has real evidence lol we are trying to work out the nature of a very complex part of what it is to be a human
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:20 PM
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Lol you think women actually care about these things? Women care about resources and status. Money and education are just proxies for both of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:11 PM
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So you see how your perspective doesn’t make sense… modern inventions to alter our appearance or hygiene aren’t really like fake or whatever you seem to think, they play into attraction like everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:10 PM
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Nobody has seen prehistoric men. I’m talking about hunter gatherer cultures in particular who are fairly similar to us anatomically
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:09 PM
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So modern men are just as smelly as prehistoric men, we just cover it up better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:03 PM
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No I’m just saying in the statistics on obesity there’s a wide range, there are people with a BMI in the obese range that won’t look terrible and indeed most of us would prefer a woman with some skin on her bones to a super skinny woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:54 PM
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Agreed. That isn’t what I said. People can’t read on this stupid sub when it suddenly goes against their worldview…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:53 PM
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Driving cars and using guns are both extremely easy to do. They are designed by people to be as easy as possible. So half your examples aren’t really indicative of intelligence. If I can teach a 16 year old everything they need to know in an hour it’s not hard. Totally agree with your last point. Doesn’t change the fact that the competencies were there for prehistoric people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:52 PM
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You can be “obese” by statistics and not look half bad. There’s a difference between 200 lbs and 400 lbs. I’d date 200 lbs before a woman who’s like emaciated yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:50 PM
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Sure but it’ll influence your attraction for sure. Makeup is a factor. are people not more hygienic today because our hygiene products are external to our innate bodies too? Fake or not the fact it makes a woman more attractive matters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:49 PM
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I honestly think if you’re going to fight me on modern women being more attractive than prehistoric women you can’t possibly be arguing in good faith. Gonna move on from this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:48 PM
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The point though is that it explains the perception of hypergamy and picky women to an extent. Men live in this abundance of beautiful attractive women and women don’t really live in an abundance of physically strong men who are present in the community that we’ve all evolved to be into respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:45 PM
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Hunter gatherers had a way larger breadth of substantial competencies than modern people do. Do you know how to grow your own food, hunt an animal, build a home, produce a skin? No. Prehistoric people had to know how to do these things well. It's not about intelligence per se, it's about competence. Just because modern comforts allow us to be less competent doesn't mean that we aren't. I think you underrate just how much prehistoric man needed to know. Also I'm more in the realm of hunter gather…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:21 PM
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Yeah I'd agree I think
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:19 PM
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What are you talking about? You say "modern man is like this", I reply "no, he isn't" and the conclusion you draw from that is that I agree with you. How? Sigh. Let's go to the quotes. My OP: Modern men are a shell of our prehistoric past. So many of us are in terrible physical shape, aren’t prevalent in the community, may not even get outside all that often. You: It's actually pretty rare for a guy to possess all three How are you not agreeing with me here? By "possess" you mean like "possess" …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:18 PM
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I'm thinking more like hunter gatherer cultures. I think they were evolutionarily much more similar to us than like cavepeople.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:03 PM
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Ugh so frustrating. Yes. You're right. But you can't say this proves the opposite. People in these threads are trying to say that just because a similar number of women and men are obese they are both the same level of attractive. No. The 60% of people left over are way different when it comes to attractiveness. The women are healthy weights and tend to look good whereas like a skinny guy who is 150 lbs isn't attractive because he isn't physically strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:56 PM
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I'd agree with this, but it's a super small fraction of men who use this stuff and are this into appearance and grooming. By contrast most women say wear makeup and care a good deal about how they dress and whatnot. My point is that women do a lot of what you just describe and men really don't. As a result women have become a lot more attractive than what men biologically evolved to be into, whereas men have sort of stagnated when comparing to what women have biologically evolved to be into
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:53 PM
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Hunter gatherer societies had people lived until their 60s per Sapiens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:52 PM
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They're all over the place. Walk around outside. The point is that obesity isn't the only factor. Pretty face, nice skin, good social skills etc are all a part of attractiveness and women today are unquestionably more attractive than women of ages past. I'd rather date an obese woman than a super skinny one. I don't think the same holds for men. I think men in hunter gatherer cultures were a bigger part of the community, were in better physical shape and ultimately would have been perceived as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:49 PM
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I never once claimed a universal theory of attraction. Ugh again, for the millionth time, there's more to being attractive than just not being fat. How can you not understand this? Just because someone isn't obese doesn't mean they are still attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:46 PM
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No. I'm saying that not being obese != attractive. There's more to being attractive than just not being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:43 PM
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Obviously none of us have evidence of a "universal" theory of attraction. No such thing exists. To ask me to produce this is to operate in terrible faith. We are speculating here. Most of our understanding of prehistory is admitted to be speculation and is debated hotly. The whole point of this sub and community is to speculate on our collective understanding of how attraction might work and how we can use it to our respective advantages. Again, this is another place where you pretending otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:41 PM
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Again, you haven't engaged with the other two points. It's not about comparing men and women. It's about comparing attractiveness of modern men and women to what we are biologically wired to be into based on our evolution driven by millenia past. That's my argument, it has nothing to do with a direct comparison between the genders of today. The whole point is that men used to be leading small communities migrating around, killing animals with their bare hands and now guys are shutting in and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:28 PM
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Your first paragraph is completely invalidated by the fact that women would have been shorter too... so in eons past, women would have been just as attracted to guys on the basis of height because the differences would have been the same. First paragraph completely incorrect and rejected. We all know women aren't attracted to height in absolute, but relative terms. I'll give you hygene. I won't give you intelligence. Prehistoric men would be much better socialized than modern men and were able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:59 PM
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How does that counter my claim at all? I said that women of healthy weight are attractive. You said women who are overweight arent. Ok great... I'm sure you're more attracted to men who are in good shape than bad shape, right? That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:43 PM
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I didn't say that they were all looking like body builders, I said modern men by contrast are in much worse physical shape which is true. Prehistoric peoples would migrate great distances and necessitated excellent physical shape. Modern men really aren't in good shape by in large. I think both genders would have been shorter so like who cares, don't see what that has to do with anything. Women like men who are taller than them and that still would have been the case
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:42 PM
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Obesity statistics don't measure attractiveness. They measure obesity. You know I'm right. I love that Red Pillers will trot out the most unscientific arguments imaginable for half their claims but then try to say that obesity stats prove women are just as ugly as men are Edit: just because you aren’t obese doesn’t mean you are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:36 PM
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To be clear - I agree with you and think this supports my point. Obesity and weight stats are a terrible metric to measure attractiveness. Also, older people skew those stats in a major way. Older women carry tons more weight than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:35 PM
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It sort of does though.. most women who are of healthy weight are pretty attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:31 PM
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No. Most attractive women in the age demo I cited are of a totally healthy weight. By contrast the vast majority of men aren't in good physical shape and are otherwise unattractive for the reasons I cited (which you haven't engaged with whatsoever)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:30 PM
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Total false flag. I'm not talking about obesity. I'm talking about being in shape. Not being obese doesn't mean you're in good shape. Good shape for men is about being strong and muscular, demonstrated physical strength. Most men don't have this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:27 PM
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I don't care about obesity. Not being obese doesn't mean you're in good shape. Good shape for men is about being strong and muscular, demonstrated physical strength. Most men don't have this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:27 PM
2

While I didn't write this to seek advice, this is excellent advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:46 PM
0

Killer advice for men here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:55 PM
7

Yeah like 3-4 dates worth of time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:20 PM
1

I really like your definition of alpha male shared here and agree with it completely
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 03:09 PM
2

What do you speculate would help men get more casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:04 PM
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It’s just an example to illustrate the idea. I think the point is that while for some small amount of women there may be pain and it might be honest, the best advice to guys is to move on from a woman who uses this as an excuse to not have sex. This is because women come up with tons of excuses to string guys along and not have sex and as a guy ultimately you should be with a partner who is so attracted to you they want to jump you. Anything less is destined to fail and lead to frustration imo. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:34 PM
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What’s your advice for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:30 PM
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Purpose of the post is to lay out people’s gender, pill, and then advice to compare the different types of responses and… debate them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:23 PM
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It’d sort of be like if I took you out on a nice date once and then said “I’m not a rich man, I can’t do this often” versus I never take you out on a date at all and I say it’s because I’m not rich. The first one is such a meaningful signal that I think it’d be important for me to do it if the relationship is to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:12 PM
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No you’re right from a female perspective. If I trust what you say I think I’d be amenable in that situation. I’d have to REALLY like you. The reality is most women I date I don’t REALLY like to the point where I just don’t think it’s worth the risk of being taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:07 PM
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I’d probably say that’s really tough but unfortunately a sexless relationship isn’t something I want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:59 PM
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Quick point of clarity to your post: Intent is what matters. If we have sex once and she tells me about pain and that we need to go less frequently it’s WAY different than if we didn’t have sex at all. This is because of signaling; she’s shown her commitment with having sex in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:41 PM
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Yes. When a girl demonstrates high interest and sort of shows me she’s actually trying and the affection is genuine it 100% works. Also saying good things about my bedroom game is a surefire way to make me stick around
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:31 PM
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Shit tests come before sex. Shit tests are like little teases to challenge you and mess with you and see how you react. “Im gonna date another guy” is not a shit test. She’s being very odd and it’d rub me the wrong way.
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:14 PM
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If after a couple of weeks we aren’t having sex after consistent dating I’d start to wonder if she’s actually attracted and isn’t just using me as a backup plan. At that point would probably ease off the gas and start considering her not a serious partner and pursue other options. This wouldn’t apply to a girl who is culturally different though like religious etc. I’ve got this middle eastern girl I really like who seems so much better than 99.99% of white women to where if she wants to wait a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:10 PM
1

Yep lmk what bar you hit tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:09 AM
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I interpreted your comment to mean that like women aren’t into nice guys or whatever but was giving an example of a girl being very into a basic sign of care / courtesy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:44 AM
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Yeah I mean culture obviously is important... I don't think the culture tells women to pick abusive men. I think women seek out men with traits that correspond with abusiveness and then let those guys off the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:01 PM
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I don't think anyone picks their partner because of what society says. I think people pick their partner based on attraction. Society doesn't say to date assholes society says to date people for love and get married. Many people deviate from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:49 PM
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I mean sure that’s fine but the point is that women get with these guys and then complain about being treated poorly and as guys the obvious solution is to pick men who aren’t as obviously terrible. Most shitty people are pretty obviously shitty from the get-go
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:37 PM
1

Yes agreed. Nonetheless women will stay with pricks who are dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:14 PM
3

A few weeks ago I offered this girl a ride home and she gave me a bj
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:45 PM
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Seems like most women have said 30s. I think porn use is a major red flag tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:40 PM
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No I mean I think what I wrote tends to describe the dating behavior of a lot of women so it’s a hard thing to avoid. I do think women are willing to put up with a guy who is actively mean spirited or cruel because he’s dominant and women are attracted to dominance, whereas men don’t really experience this towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:02 PM
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I think what most guys would argue is that the perception is men throw up these roadblocks for ostensibly nicer / kinder guys who are less traditionally attractive and totally remove them for guys who are more attractive but treat women poorly. What’s more, women will like complain about how they are treated when there is an absolute army of guys who would treat them better. It’s sort of frustrating for guys to be ready and willing to give women the respect and affection they seem to want but in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:42 PM
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I don’t want to know
/r/seduction05/11/21 06:15 PM
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Why do you think women do it? Not trying to argue I just like your perspective and want to learn more
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:02 PM
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Yeah ask a guy I think a lot of other dudes are genuinely emotionally stunted. Or like they think affection will turn the girl off. In my experience when I’m affectionate and warm and touchy girls go nuts and are way more sexual. Also basic human decency. One time I offered to drive a girl home and she gave me a blowjob haha like are things that bad out there? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:56 PM
2

Was it a dick size thing? Was it skill? Athleticism? Or just your level of overall attraction? Like what made the first one so great?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:50 PM
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You sound like the dream partner tbh love that. If I was in an LTR where the sex was regular I’d be so secure in that relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:49 PM
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I’m 27 but would love to find an insatiable 40 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:42 PM
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Yeah I feel like this is every insecure guy’s nightmare haha but good luck hope you hook another good one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:41 PM
2

Fascinating thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:33 PM
4

It answers the question but I’m curious why you think it’s so crazy or “mentally ill” as you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:23 PM
3

Wow you had a relationship that was sexless for 5-6 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:20 PM
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You guys are living the dream!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:30 PM
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Lucky guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:25 PM
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What aspects of this question strike you as “mentally ill”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:24 PM
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Welcome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:24 PM
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Did you find most women were down for the casual hookup or were a lot of them confused and thought you wanted more
/r/seduction03/11/21 12:14 PM
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100% although I don’t think guys really develop emotional feelings for the casual partner but do for the wife material girl. I think women can develop emotional feelings for both types of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:04 PM
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I think the “modern” version of co parenting is essentially exactly our conception of the two parent household but the couple just isn’t married. What you’re describing as an arrangement sounds bad for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:46 PM
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I think everyone has people they’d fuck without also having romantic feelings for, that’s not really what Madonna whore is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:55 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:48 PM
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No definitely not it’s just a sexual attraction thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:43 PM
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You get the wins. It helps build confidence to date anyone whatsoever. Give it a shot and learn from it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:03 AM
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Gently but direct with no ambiguity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:20 PM
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It’s not a deflection whatsoever. It’s an illustration of why the discussion isn’t as relevant as OP thinks it is. OP’s question betting around the female orgasmic response to rape begs the exact same questions as my comment. It illustrates the absurdity of trying to extract any sort of meaning from weird evolutionary quirks that aren’t relevant to modern life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:03 PM
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Your prostate will let you have an orgasm from anal sex. I assume therefore you’ll love it and want to give it a try
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:26 AM
1

This is 100% the correct answer. Seduction is an extension of general social skills and basic charisma. You master these things by first talking to the old lady in line next to you or the guy behind the counter. Get comfortable being yourself w strangers first
/r/seduction21/10/21 10:44 PM
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I mean I view a relationship as compatible in 3 ways: Sexual attraction Friendship Romantic attraction In my experience these are 3 different things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:28 PM
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It sounds like you just don’t form romantic attachments the way you describe your ideal relationships. I have a theory that a lot of men genuinely aren’t capable of developing feelings beyond sexual ones and basic friendship / compatibility and you seem to be one of these guys. I’m not saying it’s bad. I think it’s super common
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:47 PM
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You’re basically describing normal human connection and emotion as a major insight. It really isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:45 PM
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Super high. I’d happily have sex with probably an enormous percentage of girls between like 21-30 but would imagine that it’s like sub 1% who id consider girlfriend or wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:24 PM
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Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:11 PM
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I mean sort of but she’s also the one I’m seeing so it’d be with her. I think she and I are on the same page with our feelings towards one another which is that we’re both unsure about the romantic piece but want to be sexual anyways. But yeah I mean the question is like does it come off insulting or dehumanizing to want to practice and it sounds like maybe it does
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:35 PM
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I literally said that I wasn’t in the original comment… it’s someone I’m already seeing I just want to have a session where the goal is to practice on each other instead of just have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:32 PM
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Can you say how? Like why would you react badly to that idea? I see it as a way to improve at performance and make her feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:18 PM
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Sorry how is practicing to get better at pleasuring a woman not treating her well? The idea is to get feedback to be better at making her feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:15 PM
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I’m thinking of asking this girl I’m seeing if I can “practice” with her. Basically am going for a long fingering session where I can get her feedback and really figure out what she’s into. Then when we fuck I want to try several new positions to get us both the experience and see which ones we like. I don’t want her to feel like I’m “using” her although I sort of am, but for practice not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:58 PM
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Yep totally agreed they can all and should hopefully all happen with the same person, I’m describing mostly my experience with the different types
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:54 PM
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Yeah I think once you’re in a relationship validation is important. People validate each other in all sorts of ways but sex is a big part of it, the pulse as you say. Continuing to be sexual is like a way of checking in and maintaining the health of the relationship and validating how you view one another
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:15 PM
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That said I LOVE your perspective thanks for sharing super interesting. I’d love to date a Demisexual tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:11 PM
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I’d sort of argue it’s a natural thing like even in the context of a loving comfortable relationship I think people have “maintenance” sex which is just sort of getting both parties needs met and I’d consider it closer to type #2 than #1 even if it’s with the person you love
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:11 PM
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Yeah I think this is a big part of why I like blowjobs. Like it feels physically incredible but the best part honestly is that she’s willing to do it if that makes sense. You sound like a great partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:09 PM
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It’s just trying to put down on paper pretty complex human emotions / inclinations. We all agree when reading but may struggle to describe these things aloud
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:00 PM
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Can you say more about the desire to please someone with sex? Like walk me through the thoughts and feelings around sex that make you say that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:58 PM
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Cool perspective. Ive found in my own LTRs sex tends to take that flavor for her where she does genuinely want me to feel good. I do my best to return the favor. Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:46 PM
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That’s how it’s been for me in LTRs. Sometimes it’s a super intimate emotional thing, sometimes it’s just like “maintenance”, sometimes you’re super horny and just wanna pound each other. All good stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:42 PM
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Yeah I feel like the only time I had the just insane lustful sex was with girls who were super hot for me which has been rare imo. I’ve had sex with girls who I think were “down” but weren’t like “I’ve got to tear this guy’s clothes off with my teeth”. Maybe once or twice. I miss it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:42 PM
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Super cool perspective thanks for sharing. As a man it’s weird a huge part of me wants the lust sex and I have a lot of it and crave more of the passionate emotional type. Have you only ever had the more passionate type of sex? Or did you ever when younger have the more horny lustful type and decide it isn’t for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:39 PM
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Do these two types of experiences relate to your experience at all? Like does one of them describe better what sex feels like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:18 PM
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Is there a difference between sexual attraction and passion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:21 AM
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I’d also argue that “nightclub bathroom sex” isn’t the real life version of a porno they think it is. It’s two people who don’t know each other trying to have sex while hammered drunk it’s not a super fiery thing. I’ve been there myself dozens of times and don’t think it’s anything to get jealous over
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:25 PM
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Oh I see yeah I mean I’m a super affectionate and generally relational guy so I don’t get that at all. I’m touchy all the time and it comes naturally. I do think a lot of men don’t understand this / don’t really do affection or even feel romantic feelings in general
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:53 PM
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Totally. This is where I lean hard blue pill on this issue. I’ve found when I’ve been in relationships and have basically done basic things correctly like gone on a date or snuggled for a bit or watched a move or other just basic “warm up” activities my girlfriend will pretty much always be down to have sex and pretty much always be down to do whatever I want. You just have to follow a bit of a process. A lot of RP guys make long term relationships out to be a suckers bet for getting sex and I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:27 PM
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Yeah we often develop feelings for people that turn out not to be so deep after sex. You may just not really be that into him and only needed sex for the relationship to feel finished
/r/seduction10/10/21 03:14 PM
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Not good girls. Right girls. A wild crazy dude probably wants a wild crazy girl to keep up and have things in common with. A kind man with family values will want a “good girl”. It’s based on compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:52 PM
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Sounds like they are probably desensitized. It’s a completely natural behavior to check out other people sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:28 PM
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I think this isn’t something men really believe. I do think women believe it. It’s the classic “women start on step 3” thing where women just ignore the early parts of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:23 PM
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Yeah I agree with this however anyone who’s started exercising will tell you that it’s more than looks which help, it gives you tons of energy and confidence too all of which makes you a better and more attractive person. Honestly people don’t walk around monitoring their attractiveness as much as their mood and feelings and so when you work out and start feeling great it definitely jumps out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:57 PM
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I’m not saying you should be turned im saying you should be slow to shame men for behaviors like wanting sex, checking you out etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:55 PM
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This is a really impactful testament on what it’s like to be a man and the challenges we face as a result of our physiology. I wish women understood this better. You can’t really educate away your base nature
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:13 PM
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I do her before me. Usually once with fingers and then once during sex. I feel that this is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:01 PM
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It’s all about honesty. It sounds like you were not really honest with these interactions. I think it’s 100% fair game in general to have sex with a girl and then move on afterwards if things aren’t fun or attracted anymore. What’s not fair game is to tell her that you have feelings or investment or whatever as a bold faced lie to have sex. Sounds like maybe you weren’t quite this extreme but close. Lying is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:51 AM
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I don’t understand this position at all. Men in relationship develop crushes too and sure as shit have sexual feelings for women outside their relationships. But similar to craving fatty foods or wanting to be lazy we say no to those instincts and focus back on our partner and for a ton of us things turn out just fine. It’s hard to be monogamous across the board but people end up deciding it’s worth it and that’s all that matters. I guess it depends on how deep the crush is but man I think every…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:08 PM
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Do women care about body count? Mine is pretty high like mid 20s and sometimes I get worried about it. Especially given that I’m similtaneously a fucking loser and in the past 2 years only had sex with one girl. Sort of the worst of both worlds somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:43 AM
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If you’re down to actually debate I’m fully prepared to take you to town. Lemme know
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:36 PM
2

To be clear I’m challenging him on the claim that 6 weeks is reasonable. I think it’s not reasonable for the reasons I think you’re claiming here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:04 PM
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Porn has really messed a lot of guys up geez
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:57 PM
1

How exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:46 PM
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It’s because ethnic women are fucking awesome and seem to treat their men extremely well. If the dating pool were just like middle eastern women I think white guys would be thrilled. I know I would. White women are a fucking trainwreck these days
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:23 PM
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No but he needs to learn more. He should be concerned if she viewed one of these men as her future husband and still harbors feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:05 PM
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Sounds like a bad strategy for John since he isn’t thinking critically about the information in front of him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:45 PM
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I guess the comment just makes you sound cool you use NPC casually which is cool and sound like your attachment style fits long term relationships well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:00 PM
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You my friend read like wife material
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:38 AM
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No that’s not it I think it’s more like “oh women are stupid for behaving this way haha watch her be predictable” sort of vibe is infantalizing. Like yes it’s true but it shouldn’t come with looking down on. Men are super predictable and stupid too with our attraction but I don’t get the sense women look down on us for it. I definitely get the sense some men look down and infantalize women for their nature which I sort of think is wrong. It’s all a means to an end which is building attraction an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:49 AM
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No that’s not it I think it’s more like “oh women are stupid for behaving this way haha watch her be predictable” sort of vibe is infantalizing. Like yes it’s true but it shouldn’t come with looking down on. Men are super predictable and stupid too with our attraction but I don’t get the sense women look down on us for it. I definitely get the sense some men look down and infantalize women for their nature which I sort of think is wrong. It’s all a means to an end which is building attraction an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:49 AM
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I’d say infantalizing is misogynistic by any reasonable definition and a lot of men infantalize women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:32 AM
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Not being violent != kind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:27 AM
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Exactly. I think there’s a way to deliver literally the exact same advice but in a less aggressive or misogynistic way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:14 AM
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Desperate guys seeking answers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:48 PM
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To be super clear I’m pretty sure I’m like agreeing with your comment I dunno why yours was downvoted and mine upvoted haha that’s Reddit for ya
/r/seduction29/09/21 09:48 PM
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The progressive agenda means assuming everyone is a potential rapist and reminding them that consent matters. A super optimistic view of humanity huh
/r/seduction29/09/21 12:13 AM
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I think it happens but is super uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:54 PM
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So you just don’t develop feelings for women? It’s a purely rational calculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:50 PM
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That’s enormously stupid raising children is literally the point of life both subjectively, according to the western ideal, and from a darwinistic perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:23 PM
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Gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:16 PM
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Huh that’s interesting so how long after the beginning of dating do those feelings happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:14 PM
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78% of all americans is probably like 60% ish for men. Far from the top
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 12:02 AM
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That isn’t what OP is describing. Women can flash other adults and I don’t think most people would consider that any sort of harassment
/r/seduction28/09/21 12:02 AM
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Lol I mean 78th percentile in America isn’t saying much I think to be appealing to women you need to be at $150k+
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 11:42 PM
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Don’t flash him necessarily. Just walk around topless or with a towel and make it clear you don’t mind him looking
/r/seduction27/09/21 11:14 PM
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That’s completely ridiculous a woman flashing her boobs is not sexual assault in the slightest
/r/seduction27/09/21 11:13 PM
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I thought the original post was clearly within the spirit of what this sub is about and that’s all I’ll say. Ultimately it’s your call of course
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:20 PM
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Lol that isn’t very much though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:12 PM
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Yeah I’ve often felt that status is conveyed by having lots of hot partners and so put my more romantic intimate side on pause in favor of more casual sex. As someone in late 20s I feel way behind because I didn’t focus as much on relationships. I shouldn’t have tried to conform
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:04 PM
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My point is that you should probably allow incel content since the sub is basically just for incels to debate against non incels
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:02 PM
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The whole sub is incel content…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:45 PM
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I’d say I totally agree with this lol my post is still true to understand the frustrated men’s behavior but yes hardcore incels are rarely smart
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:36 PM
1

Then what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 01:56 AM
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No I’m literally making a claim that is reasonable, that physical signs of attraction show attraction and you’re fighting me on it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 01:38 AM
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I think heroes were always taught to be rare. That’s sort of the point. I think men realizing women suck and have been lied to is a big part of red pill bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:04 PM
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Totally agreed on the purpose thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:52 PM
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Yeah but in the context of flings I feel like women open up pretty immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:45 PM
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Yeah evo psych in general is super spotty. I won’t go so far as to say it’s always BS because it can explain a ton of things and there’s lots of evidence that female mate choice is essentially what has driven human evolution when we compare ourselves to other animals but yeah there’s a ton of holes in classic RP evo psych philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:37 PM
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It’s so true. It’s incredibly rare to meet a genuinely witty or interesting woman out in the wild especially in a dating context. I actually think for dating a lot women hold back on personality. It’s so weird. Lots of personality and early sex would be the key to winning my affections but women seem to hold back on both for serious relationships and not for flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:32 PM
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No I think it’s just the ruthlessness in romance and dating that men are surprised by and resent. I sort of reject part of your arguments I think men follow the money but would often prefer to take on the types of careers you just laid out but don’t because we need to be able to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:31 PM
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Yeah maybe I should rephrase it’s not that genuine kindness is rare to find, just a small percentage of people are genuinely kind. But they’re out there for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:24 PM
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Doesn’t sound like mixed feelings to me sounds like you agree? I think my point is that this lie (a sexist one I’d argue) that women are nice and wonderful is what causes a lot of the bitterness of men just realizing that it’s not true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:17 PM
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I think genuine kindness and genuine belief in classically liberal values are rare. To quote will smith “a person can be smart. People are dumb panicky dangerous animals” so yeah most out there are just trying to fit in and react to whatever they think will maximize their chances of success
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:15 PM
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Not real life people. I think obviously like porn stars as a very abstract fantasy would be women men may not want to date irl but no man would fuck a girl irl and not want to be seen with her or whatever whereas I think women pretty often might do this or get embarrassed about hooking up with the hot douche or whatever. I’ve seen it happen a lot but never see a guy who wants to keep who he’s had sex with super quiet out of embarrassment about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:09 PM
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If this opinion (men and women are similar) is redpill then boy oh boy does society have some wising up to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:06 PM
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I don’t think men prefer different types fwiw. I think most men have their ideal woman who is essentially a combination of beautiful in a classic refined sense, and sexy / sexual in a modern fun sense, who displays traits related to good motherhood and good partnership. Men will want sex with basically most combinations of these traits in a woman who is over like a 3 in looks. But ultimately I do think every man has his ideal and it is decidedly coherent and one directional. Women seem to have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:00 PM
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Yeah I mean I think women can mean different things with stuff. What I know for sure is if a man is obvious casual sex / typically masculine and sexy AND husband material women lose their minds and will do whatever it takes to lock him down. I think men need to focus on being both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:29 PM
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So your claim is that only a small minority of women have casual sex and the rest tend to keep it within the confines of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:13 PM
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It does seem to me like women prefer sex with the sort of guy who isn’t husband material and would rather have sporadic sex and otherwise do relationship things with husband material type men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:21 PM
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Sucks to be your husband huh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:22 PM
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I think men want a partner who is deeply attracted to them both romantically and sexually. Is that so crazy? Do you think those are mutually exclusive? Sounds like you think for some reason that being super sexual isn’t a valid component of a deep romantic relationship which I think personally is atrocious advice. Men should try to get both. If getting both isn’t possible then it pretty much validates a lot of the doom and gloom around here, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:21 PM
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No you doofus the point is that it’s illustrative of a way that women treat their life partners worse than casual hookups which is something we need to call for what it is and have guys be aware of
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:50 PM
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This response right here basically encompasses my philosophy for a good life. Good stuff. Figure out how to be both. Be sexy as fuck and kind as fuck. Know your value but also be cooperative and develop deep bonds. Be super sexual but super romantic too. It’s all doable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:49 PM
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Is this a joke? I can think of no way for a girl to better convince me of compatibility than quick sex. That way I know she wants me genuinely
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:46 PM
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Wanna engage with the actual claim itself instead of just name calling? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:58 AM
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Doofus of course I accept the choice, but I’m trying to understand it too. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:47 AM
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It just makes zero sense. How would not having sex show more attraction… than having it? Does not kissing show more attraction than kissing? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:40 AM
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But in reality it’s the rando who got sex and the long term husband who didn’t. I think that’s a crazy dynamic the idea that you’d make the love of your life wait but just let some rando get in there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:35 AM
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I don’t think that really makes sense what man would be opposed to being slept with on a first date? Like why would that spell anything bad for the relationship? I would much prefer a girl show immediate sexual interest that way I’m sure she’s pretty into me and wanted me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:55 AM
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The older I get the more I realize that husband material is just a fucking insult
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 01:05 AM
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What pill is that? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:43 AM
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Ok well let’s pick it up what do you think of my comment? Do you agree or disagree that women tend to move quite fast with one type of guy and quite slow with another? Even if the slow type is a long term partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:25 AM
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Crickets is another word for silence ie you didn’t carry on the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:09 AM
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Crickets I see
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:00 AM
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Ok I’m not talking about you I don’t know you I’m talking about dating attitude in general which tend to be that certain men are worth having ONS type relationships and certain men are worth having long term relationships. Do you agree with this? Do you also think women tend to “take it slow” with the long term ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:27 PM
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I'm not saying you don't like sex with your husband. I'm saying women tend to say things like certain guys are ONS material where they want to have sex immediately and some men are husband material where they'd prefer to take it slow. Seems like it's pretty obvious which man she's more attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:20 PM
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The implication is that you really don’t want sex that much with the husband material guy otherwise you’d ONS and want to marry too. why not have both
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:10 PM
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Being a man is about being a strong competent doer. That’s it. Find what you can do well that benefits you and the world and get really good at it
/r/seduction21/09/21 09:48 PM
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This is 100% true, and 100% a good thing. We want a society where our people are reliant on as little as possible for survival and can thrive. If a tougher dating market is the result then improve and be glad your sisters and daughters have / will have easier lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:58 PM
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Yes. Correct. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:32 PM
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I don’t think you know what blue pill is. Blue pill isn’t just things you think are wrong but is the belief that the primary motivator in human attraction is emotional connection
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:31 PM
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Yep exactly true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:51 PM
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Correct I don’t see selling drugs as preying on anyone it’s a free transaction from both parties yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:17 PM
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I mean sure to the extent that OF has a product that plugs certain emotional holes yes it could be an appealing product to a certain type, to me there’s no preying involved
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 04:25 PM
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It’s a completely fair comparison lmao there are tons of ways to get sexual content besides OF
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:54 PM
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No woman is out of your league my guy. Not a one.
/r/seduction10/09/21 10:07 PM
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I don’t care at all about beautiful women. I used to but now just think they are working harder than the rest and there are probably a variety of reasons why they do so
/r/seduction10/09/21 12:21 AM
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Yep. Life sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:10 PM
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Ah a man of culture
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:33 PM
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No I mean I totally agree with the rationale spelled out in this post. It just sucks. Guys don’t really compliment each other and women are better at showing affection in general so if they don’t then it’s like no affection happens. I guess one solution would be for guys to be nicer to each other but not likely to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:50 PM
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No. Women have evolved to be way way more perceptive about people than you and I ever could. For every ridiculous sexual impulse built deep into our brains women have instincts and intuitions around people’s behavior. We’ll never get it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:48 PM
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No I think women are just more closely motivated by their intuitions which turn out to be quite logical. Men try to use their brains which most men are really stupid so their brains do a worse job than our base human intuitions which are honed from millennia of evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:38 PM
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Yeah I agree man. It's tough. I don't understand it. I feel like objectively on paper I have an awesome life and talents, reasonably good looking, love my friends but I just stagnate romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:08 AM
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Yep I'd describe myself the exact same way. I even have talents (play piano extremely seriously) and nobody really says anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:05 AM
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I wish I got more compliments, I get it but it doesn’t change the fact that the like 1 compliment I get every few years I hang onto
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:36 AM
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Literally all of life is a prisoners dilemma we’re all trying to figure out what to pick. We end up usually fucking each other over. Applies to so much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:46 AM
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There's definitely something weird going on. I'm not sure it's for the reasons you described, but it's tough out there. I'm personally of the opinion that it's more due to an emphasis on career and the fact that normal people are so unable to earn a decent wage and so end up focusing on work and career for years at the expense of dating. I also think there are so many distractions nowadays people are honestly content doing stuff like getting deep into video games with their friends at the expens…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:09 AM
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There's a difference between showing in motion and cowering from the world. Men who show emotion do better than men who don't. Men who cry whine as a retreat from the difficulty and coldness of the world cause women to lose attraction and for good reason. You can be emotional and strong at the same time. Men who don't get this are just unintelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:01 AM
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Yep exactly. All it takes is one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:23 AM
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This right here folks is the key to all of it. The correct answer for the vast majority of questions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:48 PM
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Do restaurants prey on the hungry?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:48 PM
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I actually think both of those things will be additive to your level of attractiveness yes. The specifics don’t matter as much as having a passion or interest. In particular both of those interests would allow you to exert a ton of frame if you brought a date along with you so yeah I’d say focusing on those things would definitely be helpful. It isn’t the hobby itself that even matters that much though. You focusing on mastery and putting in work will make you more confident overall which in tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:16 PM
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Yeah I guess built into that assumption are some basics like you want to leave your room fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:09 PM
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If what you find most meaningful in life is your WOW rotation then you probably shouldn't procreate. No woman should get with a guy who's highest aspiration is his WOW rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:04 PM
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This is basically the thesis of MGTOW... is that a blue pill group?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:46 PM
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You shouldn't stop investing ever. Over the long term you will do better just putting money into the markets at all points in time. People said exactly what you are saying last year and the market is up huge. However if you're nervous, diversify with bonds and real estate (which should be less susceptible to downturns)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:43 PM
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Here's a Purple Pill opinion of the day: Growth and satisfaction with life will come from taking the part of your brain that's desperate for mates, telling it to fuck off, and following a mission and purpose of your own design. Ironically, doing this will make you more attractive than you currently are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:42 PM
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Abso-fucking-lutely. Growth comes from taking the part of your brain that's desperate for mates, telling it to fuck off, and following a mission and purpose of your own design. Ironically, doing this will make you extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:41 PM
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Love it. I think RP concepts are extremely useful in most situations but some women are built differently and those are the ones I want to bear my children haha I hope I find them more frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:39 PM
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Yeah I don't really know. I think a lot of these people do genuinely go through experiences of watching all their shallow friends try to fuck for years and never build towards anything meaningful and figure that's just how life works. I also do think a lot of women straight up settle for whoever's available when they get towards the 30s especially in rural communities where the options are few and far between. It's all sad. I've been very depressed and romantically lonely recently but I'd never …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:30 PM
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Yeah to be clear I’m a man so I’ve experienced the kind of romantic obsession from girlfriends that I think a lot of RP men think is impossible or a lie. It’s pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:24 PM
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I mean isn’t there a special quality to your first love that’s hard to replicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:23 PM
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We men have enormous egos that get so bad we can’t really be fulfilled and end up doing insane shit. We love to talk about being the logical rational sex but man men get some weird ass demons and do all sorts of stupid shit to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:34 PM
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Gah I’m so purple this is hard. I’ll do both: Blue pill: people form extremely deep meaningful relationships that propel them to a lifetime of partnership and success. In particular I think women are capable of just going absolutely nuts with deep romantic love. I’ve experienced it myself anyone who thinks she only felt those feelings because of my “alpha” traits is just incorrect it went way deeper than sex. Red Pill: hypergamy and hierarchical comparison from women when choosing partners is cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:15 PM
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Not really like I’m just as able to be passionate with a current partner but it won’t top the raw passion of a first love. But maybe I’m wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:10 PM
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Weird fact: If my current no strings fwb was like “hey jbo99 my last fwb had a massive dick and was way better at sex than you” I honestly don’t think I’d be that bothered. Like I’m getting the sex for free who am I to complain about anything? For whatever reason with a fwb there’s just like zero insecurity. But if a romantic partner even hinted at anything like that I think I’d be pretty crushed. I’d hate knowing a love interest had had it better especially if she implied a dick size difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:05 AM
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27 have had sex w 20 women but majority were alcohol fueled ons types. 2 serious relationships and another maybe 5 flings with more than one hookup. I’ve always prolly been like a 7 for looks on average
/r/seduction01/09/21 05:01 AM
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Please keep responding the world really wants to know. No judgments only understanding!
/r/seduction01/09/21 04:59 AM
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When I’ve finished fast I usually tell the girl something like “I’m obviously pretty attracted to you huh..” and if she responds in a way that’s like oh I should be flattered and glad it makes things a bit better. Frankly you sort of should be flattered if he finishes super fast it means he finds you very sexually attractive to the point his body was basically unable to handle it. Nice job
/r/seduction30/08/21 01:11 PM
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No dude you’re allowed to do stuff sexually that part of you sort of likes and another part of you is like eh that’s a little much probably not a long term favorite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:47 PM
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Yeah I think it’d be crazy not to want to fuck your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:47 AM
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I think that’s silly. I’d never not want to fuck my wife but the whole point of a past is that you do things and learn from them and my original point was that I’ve done things with certain women who were wild and crazy where I go eh that was fun but I don’t know if id do that again. You can call it whatever you want but ultimately I think it’s reasonable to learn from the past
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:44 AM
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I mean yeah I think it’s different to interact with strangers vs your intimate partner. I don’t see why this is controversial like if I told you I wanted to go commit some crime like buy drugs or whatever but felt weird about doing it with my brother you wouldn’t be like dude that’s fucked up. We do different things with different people based on the level of intimacy and timbre of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:33 AM
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But again if you read the entirety of my exchange you’ll see how I draw the analog to stuffing your face full of food or laying off exercise. Those are both 100% things that people want to do and have baked in desires for. But a lot of us don’t actually end up really wanting them at all. Why do you think that is? Because higher order desires supersede base instincts such that it can basically not really be relevant. My whole point is that Uber RP guys like to say that desires and inclinations = …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:31 AM
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Only on Reddit can you get called messed up for not wanting to cum on your wife’s face… you don’t think it’s sort of degrading?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:15 AM
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Read the entire comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:42 PM
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And I’ve explained several times why that’s sort of a pointless and fruitless exercise. People have desires for all sorts of shit. I just think you’re obviously incorrect and completely evidenceless. I’ve enjoyed dunking on you let me know if you’ve got anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:11 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/pe0s9v/hypergamy_is_the_core_concept_which_explains/haucv4w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:03 PM
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Lol theyre right on the thread my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:02 PM
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I’m curious to get your responses to my other comments instead of just making up strawmen that I didn’t actually say. I wouldn’t blame you if you’re tired of getting dunked on though haha this post is a trainwreck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:18 PM
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I hope you respond to my other points too lol. I’d say I’m solidly purple. Not sure what you mean by the hypergamy comment I didn’t really argue with your take on female sexuality here but your take on males being polygamous and slaves to baser desires. See my original comment. I think hypergamy is a useful framework for female sexuality and basic RP principles tend to be correct when it comes to how to optimize against that framework. I’d never sacrifice my principles for doing so however
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:09 PM
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And we’re certainly not talking past each other, I’m just convincing you using logic and reason where most bluepill / liberal types don’t. It’s a new perspective id imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:04 PM
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Like you make it out like men’s deepest most primal desire is polygamy. You say: “the key is the driving force behind his deepest (unchained) desires. All men would generally prefer unlimited sexual partners if given the ability” I disagree and this this is the classic RP error. I think man’s deepest desire is legacy and a purpose filled life. Men who get this are deeply satisfied. Men who don’t stagnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:03 PM
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Yes I’ve read it and think it falls prey to the error I see in a lot of extreme RP opinions which is that baser desires = meaningful tendencies or outcomes or anything meaningful for modern day people. Surely you can see my side right? Ie just because you have a base instinct you’re doomed to act on it or give way from your larger desires? Basic RP theory makes sense like women are 100% attracted to muscles confidence status money etc, shit tests are a thing etc. But your post in particular is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:01 PM
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Yes 100% in the same way I’d love to drain my savings account on bullshit if it didn’t actually cost me any money or eat an enormous pizza if it didn’t have calories. It’s a theoretical thing with no actual utility for real life people except stupid ones with zero impulse control
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:53 PM
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“Want” is a strong word for what you are describing in your various arguments. There is a part of my brain that wants to waste all my savings on bullshit, quit working, and lay around all day watching porn and overeating. That part of my brain doesn’t really get a lot of say about what I actually do. It’s the same with sexual desires. We want all sorts of weird shit the human brain is a cesspool but many of us learn to chase higher order desires and get a ton of pleasure from doing so. Some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:50 PM
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Exactly. So who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:45 PM
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What is your argument exactly? Like I’m telling you to your face that despite the weird sexual desires rattling around in my brain I am not super likely to act on them in the same way that I’m not super likely to go stuff my face with pizza every night and never work out again even though a part of me would like to do both of those things. RP people seem to just completely not get this. For example I watch a ton of office porn but not once have I considered making a move on a colleague just for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:41 PM
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Then what’s the point? If your views don’t map onto human behavior then who cares? My view is that RP views do map onto human behavior for stupid people lol both men and women so it’s all sort of half true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:37 PM
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Your post says “all men would generally prefer unlimited sexual partners given the opportunity” and I’m telling you this isn’t true. What I jack off do has no bearing on this. I jack off to all sorts of weird shit I don’t actually want in the bedroom. Your point is like me saying “all people want to stuff their faces with food nonstop and would do so given the opportunity” like it doesn’t really make sense, people are more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:35 PM
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I bet you don’t want to go to work every day but likely do anyways. I bet you don’t enjoy the feeling of exercise but you might do so. Your like primal monkey brain desires need not have bearing on what you think about and focus on day to day and how you orient your life. Sometimes I wonder if RP just applies to men and women with zero impulse control
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:30 PM
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Of course not. What I jack off to has no bearing on my real life goals. I like everyone else want to stuff my face with fatty and sugary foods basically all the time. But I don’t. Because I’m a human with a brain and higher order desires. It’s the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:29 PM
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Yah trying to do less though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:18 PM
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I think there are lots of men who are not in search of the ideal you describe. A lot of us want that deep meaningful relationship with an amazing woman who will be a great mother of our children. Frankly if you aren’t looking for the mother of your children I’d consider you more of a boy than a man honestly. Like what’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:01 PM
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Haha not wanting to cum on your wife’s face makes you a Madonna whore complex? I think that’s a little much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:03 PM
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Eh ish I mean I’ve met a lot of women from poorer countries who seem far far less superficial than American women and probably more likely in my estimation to form deeper more intimate bonds and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:47 PM
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A helpless baby is an obviously high and frankly unique case of maternal investment when compared to other animals. No other animal babies are as helpless as newborn humans with such a similarly long gestation. My argument is that it’s an obvious factor in combination with the other 2 I listed originally
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:12 PM
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I mean I just totally disagree with all of that, there’s no other baby animal that is as helpless as a human baby for as long as a human baby is helpless. But whatever. Great job nitpicking and not actually making any sort of argument
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:07 PM
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Ok so it’s basically a tie between humans and elephants (which I disagree with btw but I’ll give it to you) and whales (both of whom are enormously larger than humans so it makes sense) and otherwise human maternal investment is still extremely high compared to most other mammals. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:00 PM
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I think you’re grasping at straws instead of discussing the key point which is a bit frustrating. My point again is that our maternal investment is very high and contours our social, romantic and sexual relationships in ways not true of most other animals. This explains why ability to provide is an important trait in men. Any opposition to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:48 PM
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I was thinking direct care in a physical sense so gestation carrying nursing etc. if you’re going to do years of care in a more abstract sense it’s humans and it’s not even close I mean our current children are cared for by mothers for 18 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:46 PM
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Can you name another animal with a higher maternal investment? I think we’ve debunked elephants
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:39 PM
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What is your point exactly? Yes obviously baby animals need protection but the hands on maternal investment for elephants is obviously different than humans. Human women literally carry the baby around for about a year. In any case maternal investment is super high in humans, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:38 PM
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My point is getting a little bit lost here like however you slice it there is a very high maternal investment in human babies and it contours our sexual and romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:31 PM
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That’s not true elephants can walk and support themselves (find food) at birth. Human babies are completely incapable of pretty much anything for 2-3 years like can’t even feed themselves or walk. It’s very unique to our evolution in particular and explains why women so value support because they needed it pretty desperately in evolutionary times in order for the baby and woman to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:28 PM
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I mis stated the point which is that the gestation combined with babies being super immature compared to other animals is the unique thing. Baby elephants are born able to walk but it takes years for human babies to walk and be able to feed themselves etc. the total maternal investment is uniquely high
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:20 PM
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Totally fair I think I may have misstated the actual anthropological point which is that the combination of the 9 months plus the fact the baby is born relatively premature compared to other animals is the real kicker. You’re right that there are other animals with longer gestation periods however the young are basically born able to do everything they need to do to survive. Human babies are completely incapable of survival on their own for years. A baby elephant can walk at birth for example bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:14 PM
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There are a few ways humans are way way different from other animals that fall in line with your comment: Women carry their young forever. 9 months is unheard of in the animal kingdom. The level of investment required of human women for their young is enormous on this basis (in caveperson times waiting a whole extra year to have another young would be a major cost) Women are more discriminating in mate selection. Most animals aren’t really that picky. Usually a dominant male scares off the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:47 PM
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Anyone think that RP ideas may apply more so in America than elsewhere? Ie because America is a competitive and cutthroat place it is more hierarchical and therefore these hierarchical sexual attractiveness traits become more prominent since women intuit beating other men as a core part of fitness? Whereas in a flatter society people might be more at liberty to approach love and sex from a bluepill perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:32 PM
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I mean I think compliments are fun. I’m a guy and if I could like post my dick online and have women drool over it I totally would. Unfortunately my dick face and body are as average as a September Tuesday so I don’t think it’d work out so well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:07 PM
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The wild and crazy sex I’ve had sort of made me lose respect in some weird ways. I dunno. Cumming on faces and butt play and stuff like that can be fun but it’s like I just don’t want to do that stuff with a life partner for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:59 PM
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My point is more like whatever side you fall on it should be obvious that breaking up is the way to go. I don’t really believe in the alpha widow thing I just think people form deep attachments in relationships and those can come back up later on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:58 PM
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Agree or disagree: men are attracted to women in absolute terms (ie is she attractive period) but women are attracted to men in relative terms (given the options available to me I pick who is best)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:53 AM
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Maybe so nonetheless one of the top all time posts in this sub is basically what I just described and seems to have gotten a lot of agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:34 AM
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I guess I’d argue if you want a religious community you can easily find one and I don’t really think there’s any opposing view to be had. Yes people are less religious now because atheism is more accepted and there’s way less dogma now than before, both of those are great things. I’d agree with your second paragraph entirely. It’s bad. We’ve got to figure out a way to return to a normal people centric culture instead of ruthless competition and stepping on top of each other. I hate it too and I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:43 AM
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I think that’s silly. You could walk outside your house and find a meaningful church community. I agree that the trend is towards ruthless capitalism but communities and culture still exist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:16 AM
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I guess I just get this super determined view from red pill men about how people behave with respect to their primal desires where the reality is that people often have goals and aims in life and relationships that necessitate putting your whims on the back burner for more important things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:06 AM
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This puts into words so many of my suspicions about our culture as an American. Thank you for writing this up I agree 100% and am very nervous about the idea of continuing to be here and certainly about the idea of raising kids here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:24 PM
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RP: would you consider Leonardo DiCaprio’s character in Titanic an alpha? People cite that movie as a classic AF/BB example but that guy doesn’t have a lot of the traits I’d typically associate as alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:12 PM
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Oh it’s you again Yes all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:55 PM
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It’s weird to me how people just pretend like desire is inevitability. I desire to stuff my face with fatty sugary foods basically all the time but I don’t because I know they are bad for me. Similarly I think people can feel spontaneous attraction for others and not act on it or have it mean much at all. I think a lot of people on this sub need to figure this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:21 PM
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I think this is a useful perspective… I still think it’s a terrible way to treat a partner and speaks to likely bigger problems in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:44 PM
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The gf didn’t just say bigger dick though, she said he’d never be as good a lover. Big difference right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:43 PM
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Fwiw I don’t think this is a RP vs BP thing I think it is 100% common sense and basic relationship 101 to view this as an enormous problem and potentially break up. Saying that you’ll never compare to an ex sexually is awful and nobody deserves to wallow in a relationship where they know they are second best. I think we should all agree on what to do here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:41 PM
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I don’t care if they’re married it’s still an awful thing to say and at that stage of life feels pretty damning. What’s wrong with encouraging the OP to find a girl that thinks he’s the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:39 PM
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I just think you would deserve a lot better than that and any dude who says that about you probably doesn’t care about you very much. It’s the same idea. And the quote was “he’ll never be as good a lover as my ex” which makes it sound like no matter what the OP did to improve, he’d never be as good. Her words
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:36 PM
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I think there’s a lot more to being a lover than just size or tightness… if a guy said that about you I’d call uber bs on that shit and encourage you to think seriously about ending it and I don’t even know you, I just think people deserve better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:35 PM
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“Spinsterchachkies will never be the lover Stacey was” I mean seriously like how could you let that slide? Key word for me is never.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:27 PM
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I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around your opinion haha you realize she didn’t just say Dick size right? She said her ex was better as sex. Period. Much bigger deal than just saying the ex had a bigger Dick. Like honest question if your partner was telling his friend that he missed the sex from his ex would it not bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:25 PM
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Haha good luck with that attitude, you shouldn’t settle for being second best in your relationships. This isn’t even a redpill vs bluepill thing it’s just common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:22 PM
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I wouldn’t settle for a partner dissatisfied with our sex life and neither should you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:18 PM
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I think you must not have read as much of the original post as the rest of us it’s clear that she was dissatisfied. If you actually read the post I think you’ll change your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:16 PM
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Totally wild opinion lol I can’t believe you’d stay with a partner pining for a previous better lover. Sounds miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:14 PM
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Flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:14 PM
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Pretty insightful you’re totally right I would agree that women complain when the respect and admiration is waning
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:12 PM
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I think there’s a difference between the previous sex being better, and like it being so much better it’s worth complaining about. Most of us have a multiple partners, odds are some are better than others at sex. That’s fine if you don’t happen to be #1. But the fact that she was like actively complaining and pining for this ex is the nail in the coffin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:12 PM
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Yeah I mean the fact alone isn’t that bad like I’ve had wild and crazy sex with women where honestly I hope my wife isn’t like that. I’d imagine the same applies to me. But the key difference is that she was actively complaining about it. The complaining and the pining are the nail in the coffin even if just having a better partner previously isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:10 PM
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I got a genuine compliment the other day. I’ll remember it for years. So yes a bit more honest desire would be great
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:53 PM
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I think I’d more or less agree completely with you you just said. Here’s where we probably disagree: I’m purple pill because I do think women form crazy deep relationship bonds that border on insanity with how loving and loyal they can get. This is quite clear to me that such relationships are possible and common. But yeah I mean I’m not gonna pretend like ugly guys can find love just through personality alone. I also reject a lot of the narrative that like feminism makes it hard to be a man or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:53 AM
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No I mean I guess if you want to say that the Red Pill movement is about ugly guys complaining about being ugly then fair enough if that’s a descriptor of what’s going on then fine I’m not stopping anyone. My point is that there’s this game here of like women are only into looks and nothing else that is total nonsense. That said yes I’d agree with what you put here, when asked what they want in a man women describe what they want in a like 3 months into the relationship phase not what actually d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:40 AM
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I mean yeah dude this shouldn’t be surprising. Are you upset because women aren’t into ugly men? I don’t disagree with you that women prefer attractive men to unattractive ones.. my whole point is that this isn’t surprising or really worth getting all upset about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:32 AM
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I mean you hold beliefs that aren’t really provable and don’t conform to any normal interpretation of reality. All sorts of people talk to each other all the time. It’s very very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:24 AM
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No dude women do not view conversation with ugly men as harassment. Just no. Some bitchy women IRL might be ice cold to an ugly guy who approaches them cold because they aren’t interested and people are cold towards cold approaches all the time. If a guy walks up to me and is overly chatty I’d totally just move on if I’m busy. It’s more complicated and not as shitty as you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:19 AM
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You asked me for the bad opinions and I gave them. These aren’t far from mainstream on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:16 AM
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Any thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:10 AM
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The idea that women are only attracted to 5% of men was one I heard earlier that I thought was pretty silly so there’s one. I mean I’m purple pill so I don’t totally deviate from TRP but needless to say there’s some wacky shit on here. I’ve got guys in my comments telling me that society writ large shames men for talking to women. It’s not a normal worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:04 AM
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Let me get this straight: you think that talking to women is somehow a shamed or taboo thing because of a Reddit post? Like you actually believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:01 AM
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It’s wild to see
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:55 AM
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I’m literally asking you for data and arguments and you can’t come up with any. Not a good sign that you believe the correct thing huh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:46 AM
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You know it’s funny both of you guys are doing the ridiculous caricature thing instead of actual making arguments. Just absolutely no idea what you even believe or how to try and explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:42 AM
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I’m asking you for an actual argument like what are your beliefs and why do you believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:31 AM
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What is your argument? I see a smattering of data points that tell me very little about actual human behavior. In particular the rape fantasy data and the tinder like data (the top 2 all time upvoted posts on the sub you link) I completely reject as having any utility for a discussion about actual human mating behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:17 AM
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Putting a link to another subreddit is not an argument my guy. You’ve got every opportunity to make one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:09 AM
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He’s blackpill and I’m purple pill so I think quite a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:07 AM
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Lmao I love how your first rebuttal is a subreddit and nothing resembling an actual real life experience or coherent argument. Never change PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:06 AM
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A lifetime of experiences talking to and being sexual with actual human women informs my position. My position is that women are attracted to the traits RP adherents seem to believe they are attracted to (confidence musculature status and money). My belief is also that most men can develop these traits. I also believe that the blackpill ideas that women are only attracted to a small subset of men is obvious bogus. Women are attracted to all kinds of shit. What informs your viewpoint? What “data”…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 04:04 AM
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You aren’t winning the argument my guy. You’ve cited zero data and then claim women lie half the time lol it’s a stunning amount of gymnastics for such a silly strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:59 AM
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Again talk to real humans and you’re going to learn a ton more than your flawed reading of tinder like data
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:53 AM
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The amount of projection from the RP guys on this sub is absolutely hysterical it’s like these ridiculous ideas from guys who obviously never talk to actual human women but just get their info from the internet. Guys figure it out holy shit. Yes there’s a grain of truth to RP ideas like hit the gym get some confidence and then go slay stop with the doomsday nonsense holy fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:45 AM
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You’re creating a strawman, a view of the world that doesn’t exist. Women obviously view guys as attractive and acknowledge this reality. If you interact with women in real life you will see this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:38 AM
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I mean that’d be silly if it were true but women definitely acknowledge that they are attracted to handsome men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:28 AM
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I still think my advice is good for most guys. Focusing on real women instead of jacking off makes sense. Starving yourself a bit makes you more hungry. Some dudes need that drive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:41 AM
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Yeah I mean if you use porn as study material it’s a lot different than jacking off to it twice a day for sure I mean I’m not saying you can’t learn stuff from porn but most guys aren’t using it like that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:32 AM
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I can say pretty confidently I have far more sex than you do and certainly most guys on this sub so I know a thing or two. I’d recommend going a few months without porn and watch how it changes your mindset and your drive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:08 AM
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No porn is 100% bad for you lol if you ate a $10 steak dinner normal food wouldn’t taste as good. Similarly when you watch tons of porn you get used to seeing all these naked women and real life isn’t as exciting. When I go without porn sex is tons better and performance is better too. I’d recommend it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:56 AM
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So your opinion is that the vast majority of women aren’t attracted to their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:54 AM
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Yeah it’s wild. Like I’m a guy who likes the manosphere and love the Jordan Peterson types but then I come here and I just can’t believe the opinions like they are obviously insane
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:52 AM
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I mean your job doesn’t produce a child inside of you… I think the idea that women are marrying and bearing children for men they don’t find attractive but just do because they can’t do better is totally ludicrous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:50 AM
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I just think that porn warps the brain and a realistic view of sex and that my theory is a lot of guys internalize it. I know I do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:48 AM
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You think women find only 1-5% of men physically attractive? You do realize like 85% of men have kids at some point in life right? How do you square these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:47 AM
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I guess like certain guys have lower standards but obviously there are ugly women out there that straight up will not find guys to date them or it’ll be exceedingly rare. I stand by the claim
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:46 AM
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Yeah this sums up my feelings too. I never hear red pill guys speak from a position of experience. I think it’s this weird theoretical philosophy likely due to how porn warps your brain and your view of women as these like uber sexual dick lovers but porn is not real and real women never act that way even when they are dying to have you. It’s not real. But I think to these guys they think real life chads are being treated like these male pornstars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:44 AM
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I really don’t think so I mean yeah maybe enormously obese guys tend to date enormously obese women but it’s super rare to see a healthy looking guy with an obviously ugly or obese girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:41 AM
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Again just obviously false I mean most men don’t find women over like 30 attractive whereas many guys retain physical attractiveness well into 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:40 AM
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You think women are more picky about looks than men? Are you serious? Men will 100% not date a woman who doesn’t look up to his standards but ugly guys have girlfriends all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:35 AM
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I can’t tell if you agree with me or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:06 AM
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Hit the gym brosef the love is there for the taking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:03 AM
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How is this whole sub not just guys getting mad when girls are attracted to good looking guys? Like why is this surprising or up for debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:01 AM
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You think people have been socialized into wanting and liking sex? Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:43 PM
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The correct answer
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:10 AM
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I think this post is just culturally right leaning mental masturbation more than anything else. I’m a very sexually active guy in the most liberal place in the world and haven’t had any issues at all like what you seem to think is out there
/r/seduction16/08/21 01:52 AM
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I think I just 100% agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:01 PM
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The best advice here: stop reading. Seriously. Stop treating r/seduction as anything closely resembling real life or good advice. Learn some fundamentals and don't take any more info from reddit, learn from REAL LIFE. Great job my dude
/r/seduction09/08/21 12:07 AM
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Benevolent sexism sounds like a way to categorize healthy attitudes as negative ones. If I am more protective of women than men am I a benevolent sexist? If I have desires to provide for women because of my natural inclinations am I a benevolent sexist? Seems like a catch all term to describe healthy inclinations as harmful imo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:29 PM
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It’s because guys get addicted to porn and video games and spend all their time sapping their energy and drive from those things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:55 PM
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I mean why the hell does anyone get married if what you say is true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:05 PM
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Sounds like they have shitty wives lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:04 PM
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This just straight up isn’t correct, for most relationships women are basically down to do whatever you want within reason sexually. If you are in a relationship where this isn’t true you just aren’t in a good relationship. Women want to keep their men satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:02 PM
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I guess my point was more in contrast with the prevailing AF-BB narrative… while I don’t think men hold like 100% of leverage in LTRs I think they hold a lot and women really want the commitment more than men as a rule of thumb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:40 PM
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It’s a good question because I don’t think guys can really get there much younger than me, hard to grow meaningfully in career and stuff until around this age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:30 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:29 PM
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Huh? This is not RP at all RP would say the LTR man is a BB who is at the whims of his wife or girlfriend where in reality wives and girlfriends generally want to please and fulfill their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:14 PM
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No dude women are desperate for LTRs and really want them to the point where they go nuts if a guy won’t commit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:03 PM
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Yeah I think your comment seems to reflect my experiences too. This incel view that the like average LTR is the classic boring unsexy guy with a good job with a hot unsatisfied wife is just not really that common and most women want to be super sexual with their LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:53 PM
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I just completely disagree here. Men hold ALL the leverage in LTRs for anyone over like 24
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:50 PM
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My new favorite saying is “get your information from reality instead of the internet” I can see how if these guys only hangout on redpill spaces they believe this stuff I used to believe it too then I started meeting and fucking a ton of real women recently and it’s just all such bs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:56 PM
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Yeah I think your last paragraph is basically what I’m getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:37 PM
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Like I’m a man and this is the most obvious thing in the world to me like interest and attraction aren’t the same and you have to build attraction through interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:27 PM
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Yeah I just got in a bunch of arguments for saying that attraction for women is a process but for men it’s an event. Some people have no clue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:15 PM
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No of course I do but it’s just different. Like I bet when you first started dating your girlfriend and were feeling romantically towards her you probably weren’t like picturing her when you jacked off id imagine it was probably more excitement and more like romantic fantasizing. Yeah over time of course you have tons of sex with your girlfriend and love it, but in the attraction phase it’s sort of a different path to getting there compared to a fwb where you are only viewing them sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:34 PM
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No not really. I still think my desires for deep connection are more meaningful than my desires for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:25 PM
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Where did I say it wasn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:01 PM
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Yep lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:27 PM
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I think this might be partially true. I was raised in a morally conservative household and was sort of taught the old Puritan classics about sex and some of those viewpoints probably come out in my life. But I have good friendships and good respect and connection with my fwbs I definitely really love women and am not unable to form good connections. I also definitely differentiate between friendship love and romantic love lol they are obviously different feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:25 PM
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Yeah this is exactly it I think you get it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:21 PM
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No it isn’t for men always haha for men they can see an attractive woman and know that they’d 100% have sex with her and for women, as you say, it’s a process
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:42 AM
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It’s not different classes. It’s different attraction types. You can want to have sex with someone and not be in love with them, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:38 AM
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It’s the old saying: attraction for men is an event. Women it’s a process. Women need attraction to build even over a few minute or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:34 AM
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No I don’t think that’s true at all that is not how women work
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:29 AM
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Yes that’s what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:10 AM
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It’s about sufficiency for women it’s not sufficient for actual sexual attraction of the sort that matters at all without some amount of talking. They might find a guy attractive objectively but not necessarily be willing to consent to sex right there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:10 AM
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Like a man can look at a woman and say with 100% confidence that he would consent to sex. Women don’t do that. They need some amount of communication before they’d say the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:38 AM
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I therefore using your definition would say that most women do not feel sexual attraction immediately based solely on looks like most women need to hear a guy speak before they are willing to have sex… I don’t think you’re defining sexual attraction the right way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:34 AM
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Well I think sexual attraction doesn’t really mean “you find them okay for sex” it’s “you actively want to have sex with them” there’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:27 AM
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Yep totally agree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:27 AM
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There’s a lot of good partners who aren’t sexy, and a lot of sexy people who are shitty partners
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:10 AM
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I guess what you’re calling infatuation I’d sort of call a crush, and I think a crush can be a very legit precursor to romantic feelings and that strong crushes often sort of morph into deep love so it’s all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:04 AM
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I would however go against the redpill grain and argue you can 100% be both guys. You can be sexy as fuck and a good provider and partner. Women will go bananas. I’m entering this phase of life and it’s just awesome. I won’t feel any inkling that a girl who wants to marry me doesn’t think I’m a sexy beast or a great partner at the same time. You can do both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:03 AM
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I do this and think of myself as nothing but an enormous ally to women and am always respectful. I love women and think they are the best part of life. I’d really hate to think they view me as misogynistic Some probably do but most would probably say good things about me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:56 AM
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I think getting told you are “kinda cute” is nothing but good news my guy. Look most women aren’t gonna say “you’re so hot I want you to fuck me” just straight up… kinda cute is about as far as a lot of women will go with being direct. Sounds to me like you’re in
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:54 AM
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I’m convinced that people in different classes are there largely for genetic hereditary reasons that select for success in capitalism. These include focus dedication hard work loyalty etc. I therefore think that wealthier people tend to have more stable committed relationships. Here’s an article supporting my claim https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/research/middle-class-marriage-is-declining-and-likely-deepening-inequality/%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:53 AM
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My post is more about the opposite point. My argument is that people sort of hold back when they have romantic feelings not so much that people just fuck when they find the person hot or whatever you are saying. I’m using myself, a guy, as an example of this because I really don’t get super lustful when I like a girl romantically. Like of course I do want to have sex with her but for whatever reason it isn’t the same lusty sexual desire I have for fwbs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:51 AM
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That’s not really what I’m saying at all I’m just saying they are clearly these two different motivations and explain behavior not only in women but in men also.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:44 AM
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Definitely disagree on the last point I think people are capable of creating enormous amounts of romantic attraction very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:42 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:40 AM
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Yeah I agree with this. The key to being a content and happy guy is to put yourself in a position where you’re the one women want sexually and romantically at the same time, win win
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:32 AM
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I think men can develop romantic interest pretty quickly I know I can. I’m not sure everyone goes sex first romance second. Sure some do. Not everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:27 AM
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So I definitely am not saying that I don’t want to fuck the person I love. I definitely do. What I’m saying is that I don’t fantasize sexually about the person I love or feel lustful towards them in the same way I do towards girls that are just fwbs. I sort of think it’s a different part of the brain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:20 AM
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It’s definitely not for everybody. But this is why society historically has pushed people towards romantic love and marriage and whatnot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:14 AM
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Yeah I’m not saying men or women are wrong to do it. I’m just saying that for me as a man it is 100% true like whenever I’ve liked women I really haven’t fantasized about them sexually an enormous amount. It feels like dirty or disrespectful or something I dunno. It’s weird. But I think about my fwbs when I jack off every single time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:08 AM
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No I agree like a girl needs to be attractive to win my romantic feelings. But like I straight up am not going to think about a girl I like romantically when I’m jacking off and stuff like it doesn’t hit the sexual/lustful part of the brain the same way. But when I’m pursuing a casual sex partner I 100% am just thinking about them sexually all the time and doing sexual stuff and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:05 AM
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Here’s me: I dream of finding my future wife and developing a relationship that is deep loving and mutually respectful. I can’t wait. I think about it all the time especially as I’ve been getting older. This is my dream, my fantasy, and it’s 100% monogamous. In the meantime I’m dating and fucking as much as possible. Until I feel romantic feelings super strong I just add girls to the rotation. They’re on board, I’m on board, it’s a good situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:43 AM
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This is completely on the nose. Great post
/r/seduction04/08/21 12:16 AM
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What do you mean? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:06 PM
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No lol get off your phone and meet people in real life. This is the best time to be a sexual being in all of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:57 PM
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So just a note for anyone reading - literally 0 women will want or tolerate the situation OP just described unless they have stunningly low self esteem. Women want the friends part of friends with benefits and want to like have some sort of rapport or just general connection even if it’s entirely non romantic. What OP is describing won’t work unless you look like Ronaldo and she looks like the witch from Snow White
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:31 PM
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Work your way up. Date / try to sleep with women you find to be comfortable with, work on your confidence, then continue dating until you’re good with women
/r/seduction29/07/21 12:03 AM
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Same here. So much. I’ve gotten so good at getting women just on normal dates I’d never go back to the loud ass club / bar scene. What is even the point?
/r/seduction22/07/21 02:33 PM
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I would actually argue attraction is based on logic that is so complex and baked in nobody understands it. In any case the way to win is to improve yourself continually
/r/seduction29/05/21 08:05 PM
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It’s called the Coolidge effect, new mates / novelty in general is more arousing so it makes sense that the second time you’d last longer (this effect is why porn is so compelling btw)
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:13 PM
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I multiply 2 as high as I can get in my head. So 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 etc... Usually works to make me last longer because I shift my focus and sort of go into a zone where I’m just going without really focusing super hard on the situation
/r/seduction03/05/21 04:20 PM
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I play piano and would recommend playing music to absolutely anyone - helps with dating but is also just a great way to focus on something that is difficult and allows you to express yourself
/r/seduction25/04/21 10:34 PM
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What do you mean by multiple? Like actively seeing multiple people at the same time? Or having seen lots of partners throughout ones life?
/r/seduction15/04/21 04:23 PM
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Without alcohol being involved I think it’s way way harder than people will make it out to be. But at a bar / club where people are drinking it happens all the time
/r/seduction11/04/21 12:36 AM
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Saving this post for later
/r/seduction10/04/21 06:33 PM
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Same here. Just because it’s true doesn’t make it popular unfortunately
/r/seduction18/01/21 10:46 PM
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I've never heard of a better definition of shit test way to go this is spot on
/r/seduction18/01/21 10:19 PM
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I mean what specifically don't you like?
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/20 09:14 AM
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This makes no sense. For starters this isn't something women "try" it's not like a common tactic or anything. I've had sex with loads of women and never run into this except with 1 LTR. But it's a real thing and makes more than enough sense to encounter in a given situation. It doesn't have to be a make or break thing my guy, a self confident dude can give some great sex and be proud of himself. Honestly if you aren't feeling good about having performed well then you're not enjoying life enough …
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/20 09:12 AM
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I think this is a major opp in the tech space right now. We have all this “social networking” that does not lend itself to deepening relationships at all. To the man (or woman for that matter) looking for substantive relationships there’s not much out there
/r/MensRights06/07/19 06:17 PM
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Tremendous stuff. My biggest mantra for myself and advice for others is: you will feel like how you treat yourself. When I clean my apartment, I feel put together; when I lift, I feel like a beast; when I put in the hours at work, I feel like I have a future. When these actions lead to self-belief, all the rest of the good parts of life follow suit. Your post sums this up perfectly.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/17 02:53 AM
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Yeah what? It's Beta to go into fields where you have to think technically and be innovative? Like you said, anyone can do sales so I don't get how it's beta to pursue careers that are more difficult. I dunno who you've seen but I work at a STEM company and we are doing fine.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/17 02:05 AM
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What an Islamaphobe! Racist! Bigot!
/r/MensRights23/05/17 10:49 PM
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