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It is the most pathetic attempt to desperately understand something. They even have a little number metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:59 AM
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Please don’t confuse the subreddit with real life. Nothing is as black and white as they would have you believe here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:24 AM
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Do you meet anyone at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:01 AM
12

Jesus. I would literally never date a guy who posted a dating ad in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:52 PM
5

Why do you assume that I feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:17 PM
5

Why are you so defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:09 PM
2

I was speaking as a matter of fact, not ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:58 PM
12

I’m sure different men have different preferences. It has never affected my ability to find a relationship with a man of ANY height. If some men are turned off, I don’t even notice. And honestly? Chances are I wouldn’t notice those men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 09:28 AM
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I'm nearly 5'10. I have never, ever run into a man who took issue with my height. I literally have no idea what she means by a 'fetish hookup.' I have never had my height fetishized. I would probably date a shorter man, but I prefer my height or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:14 AM
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I hate this fucking sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:56 AM
4

I wait to have sex primarily because it allows the trash to take itself out in the first few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:20 PM
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The question of the post is literally questioning why women have a tendency to prefer height. Why does it need to be consistently questioned? Unless you are absolutely new here, which I'm assuming OP is, this is a topic that gets circulated frequently and consistently ends up in bashing women who dare have a height preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:53 PM
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Because it is a topic that is literally brought up multiple times a month, if not week. You can be curious, but posting a question in a dumb subreddit that circlejerks over it multiple times a month isn't going to achieve anything new. A lot of women here, including myself, are tired of having our preferences constantly called into question by men who can't meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:32 PM
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Or the girl has historically been screwed over by men soon after she introduced him to her friends. It’s the same reason people wait to announce a pregnancy. You want to make sure that it’s actually viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:38 PM
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My parents aren’t meeting my next man until I’m engaged. Learned my lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:36 PM
2

Are you new? People post threads shitting on women for liking taller men at least once a month on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:18 PM
0

Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:11 PM
1

Because I’m 5’9-10 and I fucking enjoy feeling small and enveloped by my man. And so do many other women. Draw whatever conclusion you want from that. And that’s the way it is. Period. I’m so fucking tired of explaining myself to people who have a problem with that. I don’t care if you’re a black belt at 5’5, you can’t hug me in bed and make me feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:08 PM
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Is that supposed to be a threat? I’m okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:52 PM
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No. That’s not the reality of how this works. You can not compare upgrading your YouTube channel to having to progress from boob pics to spread eagle because your subs are getting demanding. Are you a woman? Do you have any underlying familiarity with being a woman in front of a camera?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:05 PM
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That doesn’t stop them from upping the ante when they get positively reinforced when the money starts coming in. Especially if you’re struggling to pay bills already, as many are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:55 PM
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I'm a streamer, so I have a kind of biased view of OnlyFans. Every time I see another female streamer make an OnlyFans account, it just makes me really sad, especially when it's the low-mid tier streamers. I feel like these women are getting peer pressured into making them when sub counts run low, or to keep the competitive edge against all of the other attractive women in the market. The majority of women who start OnlyFans aren't going to be able to sustain themselves on it. And maybe I'm old,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:31 PM
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FUCK.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:03 AM
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Oh my god, this is the second post about how gross you think the female body is. I would bet actual money that you if you aren't a gay man you are a coping hardxxxcore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:02 AM
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Their vagina and asshole are millimetres apart, and all is gaping during sex. Holy shit this is the mental state of the modern man. I'd honestly rather the skid marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:00 AM
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I love Aussies. I’ll go help with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:16 PM
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I just want to say that this is a really insightful, productive post. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:10 AM
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End thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:22 PM
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I guess that’s up to each woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:34 PM
1

You were way cooler than I thought you would be. Thank you for responding kindly even when I didn’t. These conversations are starting to get tedious. I might be in the wrong group, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:31 PM
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Sure. If you aren’t attracted to darker skin, you aren’t attracted. It doesn’t mean that you see them as inhuman. Attraction. Is. Not. Negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:28 PM
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Because that was a cheap ploy to gather sympathy for a cause by comparing it to a horrible, systemic prejudice that literally gets an entire race of people killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:23 PM
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I’ll go one step further. When I’m looking for a partner, I’m also ageist, ableist, careerist, educationist, neurotypicalist, teethist, and weightist. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:16 PM
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There are “isms” for every single line of physicality that you can imagine. It’s all irrelevant. If you aren’t attracted, you aren’t attracted. It’s not up for negotiation or apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:13 PM
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You’re assuming that I have a racial criteria. I don’t. I don’t even have a hardset HEIGHT criteria. I’m 5’9 and dated a man who was 5’7. I have an “Am I attracted to you?” criteria. And for 98% of short men, the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:06 PM
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Physical attraction is physical attraction. I’m totally down for tall black and Asian men. God I love taller Asian men. I would not date women or men with biological vaginas. Am I sexist? Either way I treat them all respectfully on a human level, even if I don’t want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:27 PM
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“Not attracted to her because weightism. Not attracted to her because disfigurementism. Not attracted to her because of lookism.” So?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:22 PM
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I’ll date a different race. Many women would. As long as they’re taller. Don’t confuse “not attracted because of racism and outdated class preference” with “not attracted because short.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:18 PM
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It’s not about playing hard to get. It’s about making your life so full and exciting that he has to EARN his time in it. Because you’re busy. I’m so over these grossly simplified dating strats.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:03 PM
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This is my answer. I feel no personal responsibility for anybody’s happiness. I feel no responsibility to date men I’m not attracted to. I feel no responsibility to make things “fair”. Thinly veiled and highly unlikely threats of some shortboi revolution do not scare or concern me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:00 PM
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Then they can stay frustrated and angry. I don’t care. And I especially don’t care if your coping mechanism is claiming all women are “flabby holes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:55 PM
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My ass it doesn’t increase SMV. Wealth is always a turn-on, even if it’s not a mandatory box you need checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:39 PM
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“Fuck all women at the gym.” So like...the exact women that you feel you deserve? You sound intimidated. Almost like you know it’s punching out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:34 PM
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That is an incredibly good point. They mean women who are objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:32 PM
1

“Nobody wants to date me so men GOOD and women BAD!”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:29 PM
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I don’t care about numbers and fairness. Keeping the dating game “fair” is not my prerogative. I’m either attracted or I’m not. And I am generally not attracted to shorter men. Sorry, but if two otherwise entirely equal men present themselves to me, I’m going with the taller one every time. Much like you would choose the woman that you’re most attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:11 PM
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Well, Chad wouldn't be pumping me if we weren't in a relationship. And I have never been attracted to "Chads" as described online, so he probably wouldn't be pumping me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:18 AM
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What division? Women and the men they aren’t interested in? Hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:56 AM
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I bet you many ugly/deformed-yet-thin women who take plenty of showers would love to date you. If you’re not attracting what you deem as your league, it’s not your league homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:47 AM
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Except the ones that are flabby, ugly, or otherwise falling out of your subjective parameters of physical hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:42 AM
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What if they were born with a disfigurement? It’s not different, sorry. Few people can look past disfigurements, and few women in your desired range can look past height. They both involve not wanting somebody because of an an unchangeable, genetics related physical quality. If it makes you feel any better, my online dating preferences are set to 5’10+ so you’d never see me in the first place. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:38 AM
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Sure it is. They can’t change it, can they? How shallow of you. What do you want them to do about it? Why is your undesirable trait more important than theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:17 AM
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Until you would date a woman who is elderly or with severe facial deformities, you can’t play the shallow card without being a hypocrite. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:07 AM
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I too work hard to maintain my appearance and body composition. I’m not doing all that so I can end up with a man who is 5’6. As good as you think you are, there’s somebody better and taller right around the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:01 AM
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Morbidly obese, no. Overweight and Even Obese? Yes. Doesn’t matter. You’re either attracted or you aren’t. The important thing here is that you virtue signal as hard as possible by claiming that your preference for fit women is any less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 04:54 AM
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I love the irony of a man complaining about “flabby women” accusing me of being shallow. It’s delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 04:48 AM
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Me and my female friends? On average...gym 3-4x a week. We have every skin/hair regimen that you have - and then some, because we have to learn makeup and put forth effort to keep up with trends. My best girlfriends were met in recreational sporting leagues. Maybe just accept that you aren’t attracting high quality because you yourself aren’t high quality. I suggest cowboy boots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 04:43 AM
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It matters if you’re accusing women of not taking care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 04:36 AM
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Ask me about my skin regimen, hair regimen, and makeup regimen, bro. That’s on TOP of the gym and “the odd diet”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 04:18 AM
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Imagine reading that and thinking that I said anything about being oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:37 PM
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You have to take into consideration what being an “ugly woman” means. Women are primarily valued for their looks. It is literally what most of us subconsciously use to gauge a woman’s overall worth. And you can’t get any real peer validation just from being funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:51 PM
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Only attractive women. It took me a long time to grow into my face. I was objectively ugly up until maybe my early 20s when I got a nose job, wore makeup, learned how to style my hair, and got super fit. I don’t want to go too deeply into it, but please believe me when I say that the world is not kind to unattractive women. You are less than a man. You are absolutely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:03 PM
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I got the reference , don’t worry. And you aren’t wrong! Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:19 PM
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I’m literally subscribed to almost all of them, just because I find the posts interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:09 AM
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No, he’s not misdefining FDS. The people in FDS misdefine FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:35 PM
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Perfect post. FDS guidebook is golden. It’s the people that misconstrue everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:33 PM
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https://xkcd.com/774/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:44 PM
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The funniest part is that you think you're outside of the enclosure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:28 PM
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Good luck, they don't even keep like-minded people who don't contribute to every echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:46 PM
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Sick burn! You got me straight REKT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:22 AM
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You expect me to take that argument seriously enough to even bother? Loooooolll. I’ll go argue with 6 year olds about Minecraft instead. It’s slightly more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:15 AM
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So many wordy words! It looks so fancy! There’s even quotes! I’ll hire you to write my nephews fifth grade book project.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:24 AM
0

You have the statistical comprehension of a 3rd grader. Holy fucking shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:21 AM
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Omg, y’all, they have a little table of contents and everything! So cute!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:14 AM
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Okay. You are definitely not strawmanning and you are very definitely more attractive than me! Y’all, these people practically bully themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:15 PM
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You sound ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:51 PM
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Exactly! My 30s have been absolutely amazing compared to my 20s. I only wish I had the self respect and wisdom I have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:29 PM
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I have absolutely zero interest in men below 33.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 02:33 AM
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Then what propelled you to tell me 'wait 10 years' when you: Do not know my dating market. Do not know my appearance. Do not know what it's like to be a dating woman in a dating market. Do not know my desired age range Do not know my own goals and expectations for self-care and upkeep Are we just moving the goal post to like 45 now? I'm cool with that. I've a decade, sweet. Also the added security of knowing that there will be another wave of single dads with every year. So what was the warning …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:36 PM
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Faulty assumptions: That all men age well into their 40s (I wish I could show you the thousands of bloated mugshots I regularly flip through between two states.) Women become less attractive as a rule. That any 30 + woman is even affected by the fact that a few 20 year olds might not find them attractive anymore. That woman only prefer dating within a 5 year range. I'm 35 and will go up to 50. They definitely aren't dating 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:26 PM
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And I'm old enough (literally) to know plenty of women in their 40s who are going through first and second marriages. Some people succeed in life, some don't. Sometimes it's their fault, sometimes it isn't. That is the truth behind literally everything and has little to nothing to do with "the wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:14 PM
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I don’t take you or your narrative seriously enough to comment-mine. But no worries either way - I wanted to settle down in the next 3-5 years anyway so it looks like my life is still in my favor. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:42 PM
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And another TRPer moves "the wall" goal posts further when it doesn't quite line up with what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:11 PM
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Every TRP man will tell you that women have trouble finding commitment after 30. I'm having the opposite problem. I haven't wanted to commit to my last two boyfriends. I'm 35. Finding men has never been a problem. If there's a reduction in the amount of men who are attracted to me, I haven't noticed. In fact, I wish there were a few less fuckboy's sliding in my DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:18 PM
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I’m going to be honest. If they have a small frame overall, they CAN’T make me feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:55 PM
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You mean the hundreds of women I interact with through friends, work, and online forums? Sure Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:08 AM
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I’m 35. Have had absolutely no trouble finding dates. Actually dumped my boyfriend who wanted to propose earlier this year. 18 year old women have every right to date men aged 30+. But I will laugh in your face when you tel me that the average bloated 40 year old man with a dad bod is going to land one without money. And then I will laugh because the mental maturity of a 18 year old woman and a 40 year old man is nowhere near compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:06 AM
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There are absolutely rare outliers and I also wish them all the happiness in the world. But it does nothing to go through life assuming that you will be the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:01 PM
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You’re assuming that ever older man lusting after a 18-20 year old has pure intentions. Even if they do, who says she should care about settling down? Furthermore, how often can a 45 year old man mentally and emotionally connect with a girl 20 years his junior?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:54 PM
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Friends stories, girls only forums, and the entire premise of TRP has me believing differently. If something fails 8/10 times, it does nothing to point at the two in your favor
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:41 PM
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Preying is taking advantage of their obliviousness and optimism. I do not believe they intend “more” harm, but I maintain that they will undoubtedly use their maturity to reel them in. That’s literally a goal of TRP. A dumb young girl and dumb young guy figuring stuff out together is HARDLY an accurate comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:38 PM
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How do I know? Through my own experience, through my friends experiences, and the fact that there is a huge difference in the mentality of a 20 year old woman and 35 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:35 PM
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I mean, lessons don’t always have to be relearned. I’m not letting my nephew stick his hand on the stove to “let him figure it out himself.” If I can offer guidance and blunt truths, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:08 PM
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As any life lesson, it sucked but I came out stronger. So in a way, they have shaped me to be more choosy in the men I date. I do, however, wish I had a heads-up instead of going in blind. I would have ultimately done what I wanted to do, but gentle guidance would have definitely helped for a few things. Do I live with deep, spiritual regret? No. Am I tossing and turning at night over it? Of course not. But I love sharing my experiences with those it might be relevant to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:04 PM
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Sure. I experienced situations that I regret not having the maturity for. I’m happy to help others and I’m happy that others have guided me in other areas along the way. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:37 PM
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I’m not bothered with comparing the morals of our ancestors to our morals today. They changed for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:32 PM
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Lol, what? Was that supposed to be some kind of zinger? Of course I regret some things in life. I think we all do. But I am also grateful for the experience and will happily pass my knowledge on to other women so they don’t have to go through what I did. That is literally part of the human experience, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:13 PM
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You are right. Plenty of younger women get taken advantage of by men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:12 PM
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They are capable, but it is generally a bad idea. And I will tell them it is a bad idea, and I know from experience. I wish I had had an older mentor or older sister who gave me the same advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:08 PM
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I think it’s safe to say that I didn’t really understand my choices when I was a 20-year-old. I do now, however, and that’s why I’m sharing my wisdom with younger women. I so wish that I had had somebody to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:07 PM
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Yes. I also think that most drugs should be legal, though they are a really unwise thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:01 PM
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There are always outliers. It’s not impossible for a young woman and older man to find happiness. But it is FAR from likely or advisable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:53 PM
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And I agree - younger women are very rarely mentally equipped to handle older men who trick her into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:51 PM
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Nobody’s arguing they shouldn’t have the legal right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:48 PM
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Ask me if my 20 year old self was emotionally ready to handle being used and manipulated by the 35 year old who told me I was “so mature.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:47 PM
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No, it won’t “affect me” because 45 year old men who hit on 20 year olds are an automatic turnoff. I WILL, however, be concerned for the naive girl being taken advantage of by someone 25 years her senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:45 PM
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I’m protecting them from men who prey on their naïveté. I wish I had known what I know now when I was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:43 PM
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This! Holy crap, the absolute creeps that used to hit on me. I thought I was just “really mature for my age.” No, I was naive and too dumb to know what their game was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:39 PM
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Please, are we going to pretend that there's not a HUGE maturity difference between a woman in her late teens/early 20s and a man 35-50? Nobody would bat an eye at 50 and 65 because they are both matured adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:42 AM
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I haven’t had a problem. 🤷‍♀️ I actually dumped the last guy who wanted to propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:13 PM
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Seriously. I do not want to date a man 35-50 who can emotionally and mentally connect with a 20 year old girl. Vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:55 PM
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Flattered? Homie, want planet do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:53 PM
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Quasi-attractive is the basic level of attractiveness, dude. Probably a solid 6-7 depending on makeup and hair. I'd rather date what you'd call a "simp" than low-effort man any day. Simp is only a bad word to other men who take it out of the very specific context it was created for. Ask a woman how wet her panties get when she's digging around her purse to pay her half of the date you asked her on. "Simp" away, bitches. I'll have a pinot grigio.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:06 AM
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Nah, not quite. I'm a quasi-attractive women so I'm going to get attention from high value and low value men. Without fail, the high value and emotionally stable men have paid for our first dates without a second thought. They exude confidence, and dropping $30-50 on a pretty girl they want to court is absolutely nothing to them. The men who have let me split the bill were almost consistently the freeloaders who expected full on makeout sessions after the dates. Gross. No thanks. Y'all can go ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:14 AM
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Because your analysis of your internal characteristics is all that matters. You are happy with you. You are being your best you. You keep the standards that you feel you deserve. Whether or not they DO deserve them is up for debate, but I'm not interested in debating whether or not some women deserve their standards. The fact is that most women's standards simply aren't high enough. FDS cuts through the bullshit. If a man likes you, he will actively pursue you. And much like TRP, FDS is full of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:09 AM
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Lol at you thinking that a desperate man isn't something most women can sense a mile away. Changing my expectations in the guys I date has saved me SO much time and has continuously netted me successful, confident, proactive men. I have 15 years of dating experience as a woman. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:00 AM
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No, the value comes internally. Not externally. When you value yourself the most, the people who aren't on your level will naturally filter themselves out in the earlier stages. FDS is a brutally honest and objective analysis of men. The basic guidebook is, anyway. The people there are fucking nuts. But the guidebook is golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:57 AM
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Then don't date women with higher standards. Win/win. And maybe understand that FDS is about attracting the right man, and not expecting princess treatment the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:42 AM
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No, you're actually completely wrong. It has nothing to do with being what a man wants. That is literally the entire point of FDS. Most men who are fixer-uppers are not worth it, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:40 AM
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They are actually extremely focused on “leveling up” and self-improvement. Workout routines, career certifications, mental health, clean eating...that’s literally what FDS is about. Being the best you to attract the best. I don’t want a man who isn’t willing to see me as some kind of investment. 1-5 dates in the beginning is HARDLY a financial investment, and if he considers it one, I don’t want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:29 PM
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Basically. But I will never say the rulebook is not legit. It is. But...to be fair...MOST women act stupid while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:18 PM
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Exactly. You know who freaks out about “not being taken advantage of” for maybe $30 worth of drinks? Low value men who don’t have the money to begin with. Bitch, I make six figures. It’s the principle. I don’t need your chump change. I need evidence of investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:15 PM
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No, actually every man who has paid for the first couple of dates have been exceptionally better men than the ones who don’t. Better careers, more confidence, and willing to step up their game to be a step above the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:33 PM
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FDS has a solid rulebook, but the women there are batshit insane. They all seem to have a history of being cheated on, if that’s any indication of the bitterness of the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:31 PM
3

Most of us are average girls who like average guys who bring something to the table. I will literally always swipe a normal dude over a shirtless, ripped gym bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:59 AM
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I’m 35. I date in the 35-50 range. I would never date a man in that range who can emotionally/mentally connect with a 20 year old girl, though I recognize that there are (very rarely) exceptions for maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:47 PM
2

You're asking me to be gentle with a group of people who happily tell me and other women that we will remain lonely, childless, unloved, and unmarried. Who shit all over single mothers and men who actually care for their women. My answer is no. You can be a great person deep down, but I don't carry around a shovel. Be kind to receive kindness. Moving on. Edit: Actually, go ahead and start your conversations of love and souls and all that. Start a thread and try to start the dialogue that you fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:20 AM
1

You are absolutely right. Every second trying to reason with them is a waste. But I am a sucker for debates and discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:39 AM
2

If you don't frequent this thread and similar threads, I will say 1) Good for you, don't get sucked in. and 2) You have absolutely NO idea how nasty the incel/mgtow/RP group is until you are a 27+ woman joining in conversations about the dating sphere. They ARE the majority on these forums, because these niche debate forums tend to attract angry, jaded men. r/foreveralone is absolutely harmless and I sympathize for those people. It's also a group of men AND women. They aren't calling me a used u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:08 AM
2

One outrageous incel? One? You really don't frequent these boards, do you? I do not have anything against men who identify as 'incel' simply because they are frustrated and having trouble finding a partner. There are plenty of incels who don't take their frustrations out on the opposite gender. And there's PLENTY who do. I have no sympathy for the latter. None. They can die virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:52 AM
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If I want somebody to care about my suffering, I'll start by not calling them a whore, post-wall, and unlovable. So I'll probably have better success at empathy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:41 AM
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No, I know exactly where they are coming from. I just don't fucking care. It's not my problem to fix, and hurling toxicity at me won't change your plight in life. I do not care if an incel ever gets laid. Ever. I don't care. And I don't expect anybody to care that deeply about MY sex life, either. Not their problem, not my problem. Project elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:07 AM
1

Why engage in any conversation at all? Why are YOU on PPD if you're against, you know, debates and discussion? I will happily sit here and debate evolutionary theory in regards to mating strategies, or whatever dumb topic comes up. But I don't have to sit and smile lovingly at a group of people are quick to respond or hop into my DMs with vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:56 AM
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I don't care what their upbringing was like. If you disrespect others, you will get disrespected in return. Again - I. Am. Not. Their. Mother. Or. Therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:46 AM
1

Bingo. But...it's WOMEN'S fault, too, you know! Can't we just both accept responsibility? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:35 AM
2

If you think that those comments are me gas-lighting, then you do not peruse PPD and similar forums enough. Period. I know what you meant by your comment. Not everyone deserves sympathy. A person lunging at me with a proverbial knife isn't going to have my understanding that they are just "having a bad time." If you are malicious to somebody, they are going to be malicious back. I'm not their therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:34 AM
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"Women over 30+ are used up whores, unlovable, and low value! Single moms are trash and if you date them you're a cuck! Even fat chicks want chad! People had it so easy when marriages were arranged! Fuck femoids!" I am shocked at the absolute audacity of you to assume that I should just "understand" that these people are sad. The world doesn't stop because you are sad. The world especially doesn't stop when you shit your sad life all over the internet to point fingers at a group you think wronge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:15 AM
1

You think at some point in our conversation I actually changed my mind? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:11 AM
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Nooononono. If you are verbally shitting over an entire group of people, you forfeit your right to be approached by them with understanding. Sorry. The world doesn't work like that. I'm not going to sit here and just patiently listen to these men gleefully tell lies/coping narratives about how women are whores, and how horrible women over 30+ have it. I'm not their therapist. I have no idea what was going on in the incel communities to get them banned, but I know plenty of them were devastated o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:01 AM
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Some men have problems getting dates. I acknowledge that. Now what do you want me to do about it? Be nicer in PPD? Have you seen the venom incel communities spew here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:43 AM
4

And we can usually find a decent man post-wall, too. It be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:41 AM
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I recognize that there are men who are upset that they can't get laid. There have been men upset that they can't get laid since human's evolved on this earth. Life not being inherently fair is not some new concept or phenomenon. I'll go a step further and argue that the spaces that WERE made for these discussions, like PPD, are rife with men who want to lament their existence while simultaneously lambasting women. You expect me to feel sympathy for somebody who joyfully tells all women over 28 t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:32 PM
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I mean, I'm 35 and haven't noticed a change at all. If anything, my pool has gotten better because I've gotten so much choosier. I will never, ever deny that the dating game is perpetually in women's favor. It's absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:06 PM
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Then what exactly are you proposing? Yes, I recognize that some men have it hard and deteriorate psychologically because of it. Now what do you want me to do about it? Change my preferences and date down? Not gonna happen. Teach my future daughters to settle for somebody 'ugly' because he might turn out to be a rapist? Yeah, no. What is your suggestion here? Be nicer to them on threads for PPD? Show kindness while these same people gleefully predict my future "post-wall" decline? Sex will never,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:55 PM
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It’s still not my fault that rapists exist. It will never be my fault OR my responsibility. Society is working just fine. Some marry, some don’t. It wasn’t on women to “just deal” because they lacked fundamental human rights. Getting your dick sucked by a hot 20 year old is not a fundamental human right. I am aware that incels exist. I’m aware that they are more vocal because of the nature of the internet. I have no solutions outside of getting them the mental care they need. And I dare you to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:36 PM
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I agree with you there. I am simply exhausted with the automatic assumption by men here that THEY are automatically the next best choice after “Chad”. If it wasn’t for CHAD, they would be drowning in pussy. Uh...not necessarily, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:29 PM
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No. If a rapists rapes, it is always HIS fault. It’s not on society to change, outside of providing necessary psychiatric help to those who are struggling. Every human has rights. Those don’t include a “right” to sex. Sorry. It’s this mindset of making it “our problem” that puts people off. “Our” nothing. Go work on yourself because nobody on earth owes you their physical body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:24 PM
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I don’t think there’s a problem. Some people have it easy, some don’t. That has been the case through the history of humanity. It’s not on me to feel guilt over the men I prefer, and I certainly don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:13 PM
5

Everyone settles to an extent. But if I have to choose a stained shirt over one ripped to shreds, I’ll still choose the less shitty of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:10 PM
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How humiliating must it be to know that someone is with you out of pity? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:09 PM
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If preventing murderers and rapists means I need to start pointedly dating men I feel nothing for, them I guess we’ll just keep having murderers and rapists. Not my responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:07 PM
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I agree we should stop mocking incels and their groups. Everyone needs some form of camaraderie. However, when incels permeate these threads with anti-women sentiments, they can fuck right off. I’ve found that the men here who truly take joy in predicting my future “post wall” misery are usually active in incel communities or are red pill LARPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:05 PM
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This is the only comment needed. I don't feel sorry for you for staying with a slob who refuses to carry his own weight. I pity you for it. Make better choices and stop dating crappy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:09 PM
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I hope I never date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:56 AM
1

It’s not about being a “prize”. It’s about finding somebody who will meet you at your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:26 PM
1

One guy made 6 figures, other guy...no idea but he was well enough off. Not millionaires because I’m not famous and do not run with those circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:03 PM
2

Evan Spiegel Yeah, totally, what an unattractive beta simple. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:45 AM
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Even if he was beta (which you have no proof of), do you really, REALLY think that she's crying at night about her billionaire boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:41 AM
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I'm a 35 year old mediocre nobody American and I have had men fight over men. Wow you guys are so delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:37 AM
2

Even my desire to marry Zac Efron faded when I learned he was only 5'8. I guess I'd just fuck him if I was desperate? Poor thing probably never gets any female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:31 AM
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I’ll explain. I’m 34. While I theoretically may have lost the attention of 4 out of every 10 men who would have otherwise approached me, I don’t actually...notice? And a good portion of those men are the ones I wouldn’t touch anyway (in their 20s, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:25 PM
2

I would also fuck Bill Gates. I’d marry him, too. Computer nerds are my jam.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:21 PM
5

I dated a 23 year old for two years. I’ve also dated a 48 year old. The options are abundant. I’m 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:19 PM
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Hahahahaha. I’m actually dying laughing at the thought of a man who genuinely wants a relationship turning down Miranda Kerr. Get real, dude. You’re only fooling yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:18 PM
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Repulsed isn’t the right word. I dumped an otherwise fine man because he was TOO nice. Agreed with me on everything, put me on a pedestal, had no opinions of his own that he would assert, went WAY overboard with grand gestures, etc. there was absolutely no banter, friendly or otherwise. At best it felt disingenuous. The affection did not feel “earned”. At worst, I felt “unsafe”. He was so passive that I’m fairly sure any mental/emotional/physical threat would crush him like a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:11 PM
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This is exactly it. Internet group-thinks are not always representative of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:55 PM
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You have to remember that this subreddit is lousy with men who have been burned or are completely unlucky in love. The vast majority of men you see in life have no fucking idea what PPD, TRP, and MGTOW is. If you’ve been hurt in the past, you aren’t going to see the gray areas of life. The men here are stuck and are looking for reasons to blame it on. You have to keep that in mind when you peruse these threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:53 PM
1

You only notice the bad ones. God, do you have any idea how common fillers are?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:43 PM
1

Thanks for your contribution!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:38 AM
1

The average 40 year old today looks worlds different than the average 40 year old just a couple of decades ago. Women are just naturally younger looking for longer. 10 years was an exaggeration, but moreso a point on how I can prolong my youthful appearance as long as I want in my mid-30s. I have a spa membership that does chemical peels. Not as expensive and just as effective. I'm not going to sit here and argue with a man about skin-care regiments, because I assure you you don't know the half …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:16 AM
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No, no. I'm not a celebrity. I'm okay with delaying aging, not stopping it entirely. I'll have plenty of wrinkles in 20 years that I won't bother filling. Most fillers are incredibly subtle and require regular touchups. If you go past the point you look inflated or paralyzed, you asked for too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:13 AM
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Women care about looks, but they inherently view it through a lens of whats attainable. While I might look at some TV celebrity and lust after him in a very superficial way, I have no attraction to him because he's so entirely out of my league that it's comical. I will happily stick with my 4-7/10 men. Just because they aren't the TV celebrity doesn't mean they aren't a good partner and I'm not attracted. I'm an average girl. There's a bagillion average guys out there I will be perfectly happy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:08 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:53 PM
3

Does it matter if I'm still happy? I know the next 45 year old man I date probably had a better physique at 23. I don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:16 PM
1

Facial spa membership, manicures, personal trainer, retin creams, occasional light fillers for that one wrinkle by my eye, hair coloring, makeup, clothing choices. Definitely not cheap, but not a price a woman with a solid career can't afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:14 PM
1

Not if you have your own career and money. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:28 PM
1

What's your definition of Chad? If it's "highly sought after male", then my personal version of a Chad is a bearded guy who is taller than me, has a dadbod, has kids, and has a good career. Sans kids, that has literally been my definition of "Boyfriend/Husband material" since I was in my early 20s. And again - women are drawn to both physical attraction AND ability to provide. They work together to actually create overall attraction. If you are lacking in one area, you can make up for it in anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:12 PM
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There ARE women who only want hot men. The men you meet on these forums encountered those women, and proclaim it very, very loudly and consistently. There are also plenty, PLENTY of women who genuinely value other things than physical attraction. "All women have preference changes because of collagen" is absolute garbage. You can literally buy 10 more years of youth, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:00 PM
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You aren't 'settling' on physical attraction if it was never your top value to begin with. Appearance usually ISN'T a top value of women past the age of 27. You are wrong about that. Attraction will dwindle on both sides. That's human and extremely normal. It's also up to both parties to work on the relationship. There's so many other ways attraction and love can manifest outside of somebody's physical appearance. Whether you feel capable of handling the realities of a relationship is your own b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:51 PM
2

I am a 35 year old women in cahoots with many, many other women aged 25-45. You don't have any clue what the norm for women's desire is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:44 PM
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Hotness is relative and it is not the be-all end-all factor in determining who a woman wants to partner with. Unless a woman is very stupid, damaged, or insecure (and there are plenty like that), she will not stick with a Chad who contributes nothing to the home/relationship/income/mental well-being of the family. Another error is assuming that women only want your resources at 18-20. I broke up with my almost-fiance of 4 years at that age because he wasn't tuned into my other needs. He was a le…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:42 PM
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Yes. You can absolutely fuck around, literally. You can absolutely have this dream 18 year old in your head. I'd suggest inheriting a few disposable million and be over 6' to make this dream sustainable. 18 year old women KNOW they're a hot commodity, dude. I truly hope your salary impresses them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:38 PM
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If you're admittedly not the ripest peach, good luck trying to attract those hot 18 year olds. I hope you're a multi-millionaire so they actually stick with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:34 PM
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So you're actually incapable of obtaining the 18 year olds you desire. You're hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:30 PM
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Let's be real, OP wouldn't know what to do with a 27 year old fit, trim, beautiful, successful woman. She's her own fully formed person so she's out of the running.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:59 PM
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Lol! Are you kidding? You have to lower your standards to high school senior age before you find a woman who respects you? Why would you admit that? Women in their prime usually aren’t focused on settling down. I literally broke up with a boyfriend I would have married at 20 because he was the only relationship I had and that alone made me wonder if I was statistically doing the right thing. Maybe you will get lucky and find a super religious 18 year old who wants a family immediately. It’s not …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:19 PM
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No. Because she’s actually attracted to other aspects of him. My last boyfriend was NOT a looker. He was pudgy, balding, and not as tall as I usually prefer since I am also tall. But he was confident and could command a situation like nobody’s business. That turned me on more than any set of chiseled abs you could show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:14 PM
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Lifelong marriages are based on that. Attraction of all kind is formed over time. I thought my last boyfriend was the most attractive man in the room. Spoiler alert; he objectively wasn’t. But it didn’t matter to me because I thought so. I was so attracted to other aspects that it flooded over to everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:09 PM
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Yes. An 18year old is an adult with no life experience. People that age are very rarely fully formed adults with any sense of mental fortitude. If it’s your preference to date younger so you can “sculpt” them, then that’s your creepy prerogative and does not demonstrate how the world actually works for normal people. If you managed to level up, you should be grateful for the new attention. Attraction isn’t unconditional, and the fact that you treat it as such is incredibly spiteful and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:06 PM
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This 100%. Sorry Joe, the average 20 year old IG model doesn’t care that you’re soaring in your middle management position with $60k instead of $40k.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:59 PM
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If she’s making you feel like you’re the shit, then you are quite obviously getting the validation you need from the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:57 PM
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Why do people think that a relationship doesn’t count if it lacks the initial intensity of two horny teenagers? Your logic is wrong. People change, especially over a span of decades. We change in looks, maturity, personality, and how we navigate the world. Having the same expectations of people at 40 that you had at 18 is utterly ridiculous. You can’t judge a grown ass person by their values when they were 18. It’s literally the RP/MGTOW version of cutting off their nose to spite their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:56 PM
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Your initial response to my comment was condescending and self-righteous, and further fueled by the fact that you don’t realize that it wasn’t even directed to you. Learn the nuances of reddit comments and find something else to virtue signal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:39 PM
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Between work, dating, and various hobbies , I have a buffet of 20-50 year old dudes who would love to fuck me and only fuck me. As a vaguely 7/10 woman (with makeup), I also have a decent amount of men 25-50 who would love to date and wife me up. I am 35. Can this SMV drop happen quicker to get those 22 year old fuckbois away from my DMs? Please somebody tell them I’m old and undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:35 PM
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He outed himself bigtime. 70% of the Red Pill men are just LARPers with no experience...outside of online theories conjured up by other jaded men. Don’t forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:29 PM
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Because the resentment fueled rulebook that exists on these threads does not apply to Every. Single. Situation. outside of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:27 PM
3

How do you not realize I’m agreeing with your post overall? Are people on this sub really that touchy and dumb? Do you understand how the reddit comment format works and that sometimes replies are merely a large response to other comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:22 PM
4

Yes my dear love, I saw that on the “What are insults that don’t sound like insults?” thread, too. How did it feel giving it a test run? I have it stored away for somebody who probably hasn’t already seen it on reddit. I’ll look so super cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:14 PM
3

Whatever strategy brings you the most comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:11 PM
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That was actually direct-aggressive, but anywho. I’m essentially agreeing with your post, and I’ll add the addendum that your average woman can find a relationship at any stage in life. If you’re an ATTRACTIVE woman, a lowered SMV is a blessing. I’m not even the prettiest, but I’m SO glad that most 20 year old men filter me out of their existence. I hope the remaining ones that try to slide into my DMs join them soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:07 PM
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No, the reason you think that isn’t because of testosterone...which actually increases sexual drive, by the way. The reason you think that is because you have a limited worldview, likely due to the fact you may have been burned in the past, and also the fact that you peruse dating subreddits where the unhappy majority are the most vocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:01 PM
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So? I don’t think I’ll ever go a day with wanting to fuck Chris Pratt. Would I accept that offer if I was in a marriage, much less relationship? Hell naw. Has it happened? Yes. Is it the default? Hardly. I’m not an 18 year old NFL cheerleader, but I bet any red-blooded man fantasizes about fucking one. I don’t care. What most people on this sub don’t realize is that a large majority of people aren’t going to be swayed by physical features if they are well cared for in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:56 PM
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Lol. That’s a faulty assumption that every woman will cheat if they aren’t with a male Chad model. Doesn’t work like that in every situation. You can absolutely be attracted to a mans ability to provide and raise children with. I’ve had deep attraction to many men who weren’t conventionally attractive, and promptly lost attraction to good looking men because they had nothing else to offer. Physical attraction is negotiable. Partner attraction is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:51 PM
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So? Then her primitive instinct of wanting a male provider takes over. Values change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:03 AM
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Downvote and move on babydoll, I’ve lost my interest in this thread. You can have the last word if it helps your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:32 AM
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Great addition to the thread, I will be sure to consider it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:28 AM
9

That...that really flew past ya, didn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:11 AM
10

You’re right, this subreddit is WAY more sophisticated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:09 AM
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Dear men, If a woman decides she values financial stability as number one priority and achieves it, she is dating her high value man whether you agree or not. Your personal goal posts don’t indicate relative value. Stay mad, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:24 AM
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You decide what’s valuable to you. If a woman decides that she values financial stability over looks, you aren’t in a position to say that she can’t. She can easily land a provider that she sees as High value. I promise she’s not crying about the men on the internet trying to tell her she settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:20 AM
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No. Literally the second he shows he’s a piece of shit. Life ain’t a teen movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:52 AM
2

I disagree. The only issue with the last two men I dated was that they never voiced opposing opinions or even basic preferences. I was so bored. I need that push/pull dynamic. I THRIVE on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:57 AM
1

Being truthful does not mean you are allowed instant access (or access at all) to every part of who a person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:58 PM
1

It’s your expectation, but let’s not pretend it’s a valid or logical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:23 PM
1

And that’s your problem to fix. Not mine to coddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:56 PM
1

Insecure about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:12 PM
2

There’s your problem. They have no obligation to disclose anything to you to ease your insecurity. Because that’s your OWN problem. Finding out my SO was insecure about my sexual history would be such a turnoff, if not a dealbreaker. Asking somebody about their number of sex partners isn’t the same as asking them their favorite color. You are not obligated to every single piece of information that is inherently personal and has no impact on you. Unless I fall into a full sense of comfort with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:07 PM
1

Implying you wouldn’t be okay with not knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:55 PM
1

Lol, are you one of those “innocent guys” who walks around with preemptively hurt feelings because of everything you might not know about your girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:46 PM
1

He can lie about any inconsequential thing he wants as long as it doesn’t put me at risk. He doesn’t owe me his history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:33 PM
0

Nah. I don’t think my sexual history is anybody’s business as long as I’m clean and child free. If a man asks, I’ll decline. If he asks again, it’s a made up number. If he pries, he can find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:08 PM
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He can ask me my credit card number and I’ll lie about that, too. It’s none of his business. I can’t even think of a single man who asked me outside of my first bf because I asked first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:00 PM
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That was excellently worded and I think you are exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:28 PM
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If you assume literally every woman is a hoe, then yes, you will be right maybe 1/10 times. But that’s not “intuition”. It’s cherry picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:59 PM
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Male intuition tells men things like “I should send this girl I’m seeing an overexposed picture of my pencil dick!” and “Women always enjoy sex because they just sit there and get jackhammered to orgasm” (actual statement I recently read). Average male intuition does not know how to handle women. And if you’re assuming every woman is a whore, you’re already using faulty reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:56 PM
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But it’s not. As I added last minute, it basically took an online PSA movement to tell guys we don’t want to see pictures of their nasty dicks as it does nothing for us. Most men don’t know shit about women’s sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:50 PM
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Lol! At any given time, half the men I meet would swear I’m a virgin, and half would swear I’m registered on Fetlife. It depends on the context in which they know me. It never fails to amaze me how men feel so sure about their abilities to accurately “read” an average woman’s promiscuity. It is the most illogical, coping bullshit I’ve witnessed...and frankly kind of hilarious. Men also think women want to see a closeup of their wrinkly, trash dick. Because they don’t think the same way we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:46 PM
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Nah. You can’t use such a broad brush when trying to pin down a certain trait, and me and almost every woman I know are proof. You would never guess correctly for me or most women I know. I don’t even always guess correctly for my friends and I get the intimate details.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:40 PM
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When you’re an adult, most people stick to online dating. Nobody in my range (27-35) really dates in the same circles, and it’s usually a huge coincidence if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:41 PM
1

My roommate doesn’t smoke. No tattoos, hates the general public, and is essentially a country Martha Stewart who goes to Catholic mass every Sunday. I’m the video-gaming pot smoking streamer, and she has me eclipsed. Actually, same goes for a LOT of the “nice” religious girls I know. If you only knew. Also, there are about 80billion other reasons why a woman can be on BC. I haven’t had sex in a little over a year, but my periods debilitate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:39 PM
1

Do you have any idea how stupid men are about some things?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:32 PM
1

Nope. My roommate looks so wholesome you’d believe she wasn’t a prude. She told me she NEVER tells the truth and is never questioned twice. Hell, I have lied, and mine is fairly low. It’s nobody’s business unless I want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:31 PM
2

I love the assumption that a woman has any obligation to speak truthfully about her N count. It’s nobody’s business. You’ll hear what I want you to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:56 PM
3

Why have any conversation about literally anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:42 AM
3

I disagree. Men don't care about jobs. If a woman is beautiful, most guys will want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 07:03 AM
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I wish men knew how utterly lame sex can be from a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:51 AM
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Nope, actually the men who are willing to commit area always around. You have to date around, but they are there. Take it from 35 year old me. My dating life has never been better. Do you know how many lonely, single dads are out there? Do you have ANY idea how easy it is to find a moderately attractive guy who wants to treat you right? And not just me. Take it from my 62 year old mother and her 58 year old girlfriend. Take it from my 40 year old divorced sister whose new husband makes bank. I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:29 AM
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Why would I care if less men are focusing on me when I'm not focusing on them? Of course they aren't. I have never seen a woman 7/10 or above have trouble finding men to commit when they are ready. Not me, not my mom, not any of my older friends, not my sisters. The only difference is there's a few more losers you have to sift through.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:54 AM
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No, because 'unmarried women in their 30s' is only becoming a thing due a cultural shift. Because we're focusing on working and not finding a man. I could have been married to an engineer two years ago but I turned him down. I wasn't that crazy about him. It wasn't long before another man professed his love for me. I do deserve what I want. You are absolutely right. Because I'd rather be alone and happy than in a relationship and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:24 AM
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So since we're using anecdotes I'll add mine. I'm 34 and have no trouble finding relationships. I have never met a moderately attractive woman who does, at any age. Sometimes their standards are high and they'll have to wait a little longer. But they always find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:04 AM
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LOL at you assuming that's literally everybody's path.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:55 AM
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Do you really think your friends from high school have ANY real insight into the dating world of people 38-44? God. Red pill in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:51 AM
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"Neither does my child with you." Cruel yet I have no mercy for them. I love how you think that's such a zinger. Lol. I'm actually dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:50 AM
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I have never met a person who could answer this question. Nobody will ever agree on what 'good' standards are. I say 'good standards' are whatever you choose them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:48 AM
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Yes. And there's a mountain of difference between "Guy who is being supported by parents while he's finishing med school." and "Guy who can't/won't work, but has a totally great personality."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:16 AM
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The average woman makes about 45-50k a year. And that's being generous. So no, the average woman with an average salary has no moral obligation to look past the fact that a man can't take care of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:32 AM
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I'm sure most men prefer the physical aesthetics of a 20 year old, but I guarantee you there's a large amount of them who won't bother because they don't want to also deal with the mentality of a 20 year old. But hey...if you actually PREFER young women, regardless of maturity, I hope you and every other similar man finds one. Please. Go date those younger women, because I definitely do not consider you high value and do not want you on my radar. That's not harsh at all. How can I help you achie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:50 AM
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I don’t know if I would hate being a man, but goddamn I love being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:39 PM
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Okay, if homeless women are the level you have to peruse in order to quell your fear of being left by a better guy, go for it. Just don't think you have some kind of over-arching understanding about how women work because you are in an extremely unusual circumstance. Honestly, I'd probably date you too if I was homeless and you showed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:25 PM
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Oh , my bad, I didn't realize you were totally okay with dating the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity as long as you found them attractive. Carry on! I'm sure you absolutely kill it with the homeless women. I bet they just love your payche...I mean your personality!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:08 PM
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You are setting yourself or some poor woman up for a miserable, miserable future with that mentality. It's nobody's job to build you but yourself. Grow up. I also have to laugh at the audacity of you demanding a woman accept you as unattractive and broke. Do you really want a woman who will date anybody who walks up to her? I'd suggest sticking to women with standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:57 PM
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I have serious doubt that anybody has come back to you, outside of the occasionally lonely girl who'd be open to see what the previously broke guys are up to. When a grown up is looking for a stable, adult relationship with another grown up, you HAVE to take finances into accountability. It's not even a matter of being shallow - it's being responsible. You cannot pay a mortgage with personality. You can't pick up the kids from school with your personality. You can't care support our family durin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:10 PM
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Acting like this? You mean disagreeing with you? I'm gonna bow out of this conversation. You don't seem stable and I honestly don't want to make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:35 AM
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There's a lot to unpack here. I'm convinced you're just really young and hurting. You can make any assumption about me you want if it makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:31 AM
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By whose standards? I think the idea of waiting until I'm ready to settle down is amazing. I will ultimately get what I want and I will be happy. Why do I care about anybody else's standards but my own?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:21 AM
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Looks like a lesser man still has more dating options than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:12 AM
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Who says my ultimate goal is to have a baby? I actually date a lot of dads in their 40s. I live in the adult world. And good thing, because I'm not settling until/unless I have to. What will he get? He'll end up with a woman who is employed, has a car, in shape, relatively attractive, makes six figures, and has a trust fund. I don't think he'll be crying in his sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:59 AM
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be me 34 year old woman just dumped an actual Launch Engineer orbiters galore have naysayer constantly misconstrue arguments because of raging denial. I still have a popping Tinder and orbiters galore you remain single You lost a long time ago. Damn, I tried the format and it didn't work. It was super witty though, I promise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:27 AM
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Proud? No, but I'm definitely comforted by it. Hows your little revolution over there going?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:10 AM
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So then we go off and marry other guys that have their shit together. What's the big loss? How often is your average lonely man suddenly getting approached by all of the Stacys who turned him down in the past? Like...Elon Musk. He was bullied and I'm sure lots of women who knew him have regrets about turning him down. Is this a case of your average person? No. Do men like to think they even begin to hold that level of magnitude? Yes. Unless you are a bazilionaire innovator who is literally leadi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:03 AM
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I'm absolutely blackpilled and realize that desire does not equal realistic. Which is why you're wrong, and you know it. You have a revenge fantasy you came up with from a horny and angry viewpoint. The fact is that there is always somebody willing to step up for a woman when she's ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:58 AM
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Why do you assume that every woman on earth changes sex partners a month? Listen, you sound really young. I have a feeling you're trying on your Red Pill bigboy pants for size. I don't even think you understand THEIR logic fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:35 AM
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Hedonistic and promiscuous? I sure hope you're also a virgin when you marry her, otherwise you have no logical right to want that. Yes. If I met a man who was unemployed, he is out of the running for what I'm looking for in a life partner. I don't know him, I don't know his story, I don't know his drive or work ethic. He's not getting a chance from me. You are ridiculous for expecting girls to look past this for their "true personality". Your personality doesn't pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:01 AM
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You are indulging in this revenge fantasy you got from years of being bullied. There is not a single woman who rejected you that suddenly wants you, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:36 AM
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No, it's evident that they had no need to prioritize 'finding a male'. Because they don't have to. You're acting like the average guy has anything worthwhile enough to outshine the fact that they're unemployed. Sorry. I'm still not buying your groceries or dropping you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:48 AM
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Who is losing out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:43 AM
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Lol, I like how you treat dating and women like a DND strategy. Life doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:43 AM
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The only thing they're losing is a man-child who bums money and car rides. Tragic. Unfortunately for you, there's plenty of other options who do have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:28 PM
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And unfortunately for you, your personality and good intentions don't pay the bills. Welcome to the reality of adult relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:13 PM
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I....think most mature adults do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:11 PM
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Good! I completely agree with that. And I want a man who is employed and can support himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:25 PM
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I don't think any mature person is under the illusion that a perfect partner exists. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't go for somebody they are actually intrigued by and attracted to. Even if it doesn't include you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:09 PM
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This woman is beautiful. She will find a man who happily lives up to her requirements. Life isn't fair and sometimes pretty woman get things easier than an average man. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:39 PM
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Literally no woman over 25 thinks like that. But do you feel better? Are you maybe just having a bad time in high school or university? Things will get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:36 PM
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You're assuming that our standards our outlandish. I don't think being employed, healthy, with good teeth are bad standards for minimum requirements and I will laugh in the face of anybody who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:26 PM
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I don't know how old you are, but considering mutual finances before you make somebody your life partner is an EXTREMELY important thing. I know this kills all of your young, naive hearts, but relationships are more than just being with a super cool, attractive person. If you are going to tie your assets to somebody else and make them your partner in life, they have to be on their own feet. This whole "love me for me" is childish bullshit that doesn't work in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:24 PM
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I promise you no woman in her 30s will want you. You're doing us a solid. Sincerely. You truly have it all figured out! Go buy that steady source of sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:45 AM
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I don't care about modern society because I don't have to sit here and analyze on reddit forums about why I'm not getting laid. You know that manipulating my narrative isn't going to get the pretty girls to want you, right babe? Better get that mail order bride. Talk about a failure to thrive...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:30 AM
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That's....absolutely not how it goes. I had an engineer locked down for four years when I was 20-24. He was my first boyfriend and wanted to marry me. I didn't want to marry him because I was so young and wanted to experience life. Young women generally aren't into settling down. If you want to find one who is, maybe go peruse the church scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:11 AM
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Yes, and there are generally mountains of differences in maturity levels and shared life goals at that age. A man who prioritizes youth over everything else, regardless of maturity levels, is a huge red flag to me. No thank you. I hope every 20 something who wants a 40 year old man snags them so they're off my radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:48 AM
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I'm sure lots of men would love to marry a youthful 20something. Those also aren't what I call high value men. If a 40 year old man is somehow able to romantically connect with a 20 year old, they can absolutely have each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:12 AM
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No, staying with you when times are tough is something you prove yourself worthy of. You don't jump into my life and expect me to be okay that you need me to drive you everywhere and pay your water bill when I don't even know you at your prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:11 AM
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I live on a different planet. I expect people to meet me at my level. If I'm employed and stable, you better be as well. Sorry. Welcome to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:57 PM
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20s are for wasting time. I didn't want to commit to a man either, much less a 23 year old boy. I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. Women who are serious about finding a marriage-worthy man aren't going to waste their time with unemployed guys unless they're incredibly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:54 PM
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You are in university and therefore entirely irrelevant to what I was talking about. Somebody from 30-50, my range, needs their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:39 PM
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When me or any other woman refuse to date a man we feel is "beneath us", it's simply THAT. They are not in the running of what we want or need at a certain point in life. That doesn't mean that we will literally NEVER even out. If you're unemployed right now, I'm not dating you. If you get a job and show some stability, then I'll consider you. Should a man in this situation ONLY ever date women who would have fully considered him while he was unemployed and broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:59 PM
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This is absolutely true. Women are masters at deluding themselves. If you're a woman, you know this. Don't even pretend you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:54 PM
2

They like his personality. Not the fact he’s gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:32 PM
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I am a woman. I am flat out not attracted to the idea of my man getting fucked by a man. I am the exact opposite. That’s not even touching the “what if he sleeps with everyone” bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:10 PM
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Like you would know in the first place, big guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:20 AM
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No, then my issue would be that I'm not fully attracted to the man who did not take the initiative to ask me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:53 PM
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Does it matter if they care? You think that if I had a number I was ashamed of that I would actually tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:20 AM
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Right. And plenty of women will be like “Oh my god you’re so hot let’s fuck now”, even if they are mentally healthy and looking for serious relationships, because beta traits are easy to fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:19 PM
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I am entirely willing to bet that your average handsome, employed 35 year old has no idea about what TRP is on reddit. I have never, ever met a man who knew about this whole subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:30 PM
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You know you can sit here and say “nun uh!” as much as you want and it means literally nothing? Lol. God, Men on dating subreddits try so to hard to delude themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:22 PM
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I can be a conscious human and understand that my attraction to my partner was contingent on being attracted to all of the elements that make him, him. I agree that it's beneficial for ever, women included, to put their emotional efforts into men who deserve them. I do not agree that women need to sacrifice their most basic levels of attractions to it. I don't care if I'm the only woman in my state, and I'm poor with no car. I'm not letting a big, fat, balding, rotting tooth man put his dick ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:56 AM
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Mating is inherently using somebody as an object for some type of utility provision. Men can get over that as far as I'm concerned. Women should vet against the men who throw up a Beta facade. Absolutely. But they have no obligation to settle for a man who is unattractive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:41 AM
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No, what's happening is that women are getting duped by "Chads" into thinking that they're also 'caring, kind, providing' when he's really NONE of those. Just because she gravitated towards the man who was able to generate the most sexual attraction (because, lets face it, that's how humans work), doesn't mean that man will be honest about how he actually feels about her. And I think a mutually beneficial solution for this is to teach women how to vet better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:26 AM
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Yes. But both are needed. You cannot have a fulfilling relationship with only one or other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:20 AM
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I don't think women do? I think that's the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:19 AM
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Both are needed to keep a woman and her respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:18 AM
2

Good, for fucks sake, please go learn how to forge sexual chemisty. For the love of god.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:15 AM
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No actually, my worst nightmare is falling into a passionless relationship. I mean, it's not 1950 anymore. There's no obligation for me to stay if I'm not getting what I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:12 AM
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It's a balance. Extremes one way or the other are not attractive. The unfortunate part is that it's fairly easy to fake being a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:00 AM
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You can be a sexually attractive man with beta traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:54 AM
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You are LITERALLY just describing dating. We all learn and mature and change our priorities when we get older, and women are no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:50 AM
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Are there not a million unattractive traits grouped along with ALPHA CHAD?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:36 PM
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Looks, and by that I mean "not being physically repulsive", is only the first of a bazillion parameters that go I have for deciding whether or not I'm sexually aroused by a man. If I find a man attractive, I consider him. I don't find a man attractive, but I don't find him repulsive, I would consider him. If I find a man repulsive, he's out of the game. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:34 PM
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I supposed you're right. I believe that is the honest intention behind most of the guys who end up there. I don't truly think any of them ever have any delusions of becoming an Alpha Chad, just an acceptable Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:17 PM
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I am not going to sexually pursue a man that I find physically repelling. If that's incel logic, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:54 PM
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Lube doesn't make a 200 lb sweaty, hairy man grinding inside of you any more enjoyable for women if they aren't into it. Are we talking about women's enjoyment or your own? The vagina does more than just GET WET when it's aroused. It actually gets BIGGER because of increased blood flow, which makes it feel less like jamming something flesh-textured into your vagina. This is why I suggest you learn about women's anatomy before you even TRY to understand the nuanced thing that is a woman's sexuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:51 PM
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No. But I'm not going to consider you even for your Beta traits if I am actively *NOT ATTRACTED* to you. Neither one is the be all end all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:48 PM
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It has nothing to do with porn. Women's wetness doesn't work like a man's hard on. You have to be in the right headspace and/or have the right amount of foreplay needed. Foreplay might not even matter if you simply aren't mentally 'in it'. I don't mean this condescendingly, but I really suggest you seek out actual resources out there that will scientifically educate you on women's anatomy and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:26 PM
3

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:17 PM
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Sure. But these forums are rife with men complaining that they aren't getting sex OR relationships. And the reality is because they don't measure up in the other 50% of equations. Sure they can be a Chad and prey on easy and naive women, but he is TARGETING those types if that's all he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:16 PM
1

So is your other option spending hundreds of dollars on fancy dinner dates? Why on earth would you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:57 PM
1

Every woman's a gold digger when you can't afford a $4 coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:29 PM
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I mean, I don't know what kind of women you attract, but I don't actually know a lot who fit your description. And certainly not enough to make it a "women thing", any more than I would say that ALL men are abusive and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:23 PM
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Where do you live where women consistently fit the first three? And why is having children inherently a bad thing? Single moms exist for a vast multitude of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:12 PM
4

Define a "lifetime of poor choices"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:02 PM
13

If I find you physically attractive, then I find you physically attractive. The Beta traits are what ultimately decide whether or not you'll put your penis in me. But I'm 34, so take that for what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:01 PM
13

Then they can keep playing their games for sex. That's fine. But a subset of them needs to either drop the WOMAN ARE EVIL act or make an attempt to understand how nuanced female sexuality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:32 PM
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I've always had super binary 'alpha is GOOD and beta is BAD' definitions, because I only ever hear those terms in RP forums. Beta is literally what women want. Now whether or not any given Beta man will have the ability to generate chemistry is a total different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:24 PM
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Sign me up! Why is this looked upon as a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:15 PM
1

Man, you must be attracting some lower-grade women. Sorry bout it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:32 PM
0

It's 2020. I have my own career. I don't need to "gold dig", and the sooner you drop the facade that it's about free drinks, the better off you'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:27 PM
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Will somebody please give me a fucking set definition of what being a goddamn Beta entails so we can all be on the same goddamn page?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:19 PM
0

Yikes, a few dates a week would make you broke? I'm glad you're weeding yourself out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:03 PM
1

Yes. People like what they like and it's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:00 PM
1

That doesn't mean anything when your opinion goes from "I guess it's tolerable." to "Okay, it's a little less tolerable now."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:59 PM
1

Seriously. Do you know how disgusting it is to have a big, sweaty man dominating you physically and thrusting inside of you when you aren't sufficiently aroused?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:58 PM
1

I don't hate it. I like making my partner happy and the closeness it brings. But I would not miss it sexually in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:56 PM
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Because the post is written with somebody who is fundamentally ignorant about women's sexuality. The rest of the post doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:54 PM
3

He has to be trolling. I just...no....no way....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:53 PM
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Usually by the time I'm sleeping with them, I'm already invested in them other ways than physically. And sex has never been my utmost priority in a relationship, so having my mind blown isn't a priority either. I have a Hitachi when I need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:52 PM
1

Please have something jammed repeatedly into your dry vagina and tell me how great it feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:49 PM
1

Oh my god. You watch way too much porn. Listen. Most women get nothing out of being jack hammered, and a fair amount of women only get aroused with clitoral stimulation. There is SO MUCH involved in female sexuality, and if the planets aren't aligned right (something we usually keep to ourselves), PIV is not going to do anything for us. I'm wondering if this is a troll post because it is just that naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:48 PM
1

That’s why online dating is totally skewed in men’s favor, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:37 PM
1

I would love to see this date that doesn’t agree. Come on. Cough it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:33 PM
1

Nope. This is spot on. Every man who was 1) gainfully employed and 2) REALLY into me has paid, no questions asked. There has never been any issue about my $18 bill for two glasses of wine. It is literally a way to tip the scales in your favor, and it blows my mind that men will fight this to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:30 PM
1

I love them as a woman for a number of reasons. Mostly, I consider them a fly catcher for LVM. Ladies, keep an eye on the men who gravitate towards that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:24 PM
0

Lord almighty, I would literally screenshot my newly activated Bumble app if I wasn’t convinced that you truly knew better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:19 PM
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Found the broke guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:16 PM
1

Lol at you thinking a woman’s goal is to touch penises. You’re....aware that most of us can do that whenever we want?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:15 PM
0

I can’t speak to the subreddit members, I was pretty swiftly banned. But the FDS guidebook works. I have an opportunity to touch many penises, and it helps me find the best. My biggest problem in dating is having to sift through the thousands of matches I get, like any woman. FDS makes the filtering process a lot easier and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:13 PM
1

If you’re lonely I actually have a 24 year old 600 lb step-cousin. She’d love to meet a man who will look past her physical flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:35 PM
1

I’m shallow in regards to my own preferences. I like 45 year old men with chest hair and dad bods. If I had a choice, I’d choose it over a ripped man. Is that shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:31 PM
1

Some RP guy was telling me that he was a Greater Beta, and I vomited in my mouth a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:28 PM
1

But I mean it’s pretty dumb to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:25 PM
2

No, you’re actually pretty wrong and your opinion is bad. That’s all. Sometimes people disagree with you on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:24 PM
1

Men who don’t struggle with women and relationships do not visit TRP forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:22 PM
0

That’s all I was clarifying, dear child. Calm down. But nah, your decision is pretty dumb, though. I’d rather be fine as soon as the plaster comes off than wasting years upon years that I’ll never get back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:20 PM
2

You would rather have a lifetime of depression over a broken bone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:16 PM
2

You’re thinking short term. I’d suggest reading the full sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:12 PM
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That’s because you’re thinking short term. I wish I had had the option of “breaking my leg and wearing a cast for a bit” over “wasting years of my life feeling miserable and secluded with a mindset that poisons everything I do”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:08 PM
3

Nope. Nope nope nope. I’m not Bob the Builder. If you aren’t actively maintaining your mental illness yourself (whatever that entails), I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:03 PM
2

I have told 100% of men that I've been with that they made me cum with PIV. Spoiler alert: they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:01 AM
1

We'd probably literally never have PIV sex, then. I don't cum from it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:58 AM
3

Basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:02 AM
8

You are so delusional. Good luck getting blown by anyone. 💁‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:01 AM
2

Even at the bare minimum, women do just as much AND more than men. So even if I had an obligation to give a shit, it’d still be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:48 AM
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If I was 35 lb heavier with frizzy mousy-brown hair, hairy legs and armpits, and full bush, my caliber of men would definitely notice, and we’re all lying if we pretend otherwise. We all have to take care of ourselves. Boo fucking hoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:31 AM
5

Basic human empathy does not mean I give a shit about your gym schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:28 AM
5

Please tell me how complicated your 3-in-1 shampoo is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:25 AM
12

Do you care about me? I went to the gym today, stayed at a caloric deficit, scheduled a hair appointment, and did my nails. Right now I’m whitening my teeth! I’m spending so much money and working so hard. Please consider me! Please! Look at the work I’m doing! How could you possibly not make this your problem?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:23 AM
3

There will always be betas (willing male providers) when women are ready. A smart woman knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:18 AM
1

Why does everybody think that every single FDS woman wants a Chad? Who is Chad? What does Chad look like? What is his career? Is Chad simply a term for "man I find attractive"? Is the 46 year old Dad with a good career, okay face, and a dad bod a Chad? Because that's what I gravitate towards. I promise you I probably wouldn't be attracted to HALF of the men any given FDS woman chooses to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 04:04 AM
2

Queen! LVM bow the fuck down. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:31 AM
1

It's actually an evolutionary fact that following a societal majority makes life easier for you in all realms. I would love to see these angry incels actually try to start a movement so they can immediately get a dose of reality and be permanently ostracized, having made no real change in the progressive world they can't thrive in. Oh wait, they already did. Are you really asking me why I prioritize society so much and in the same breath insisting I would be raped without it? Wow. Yes, people li…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:03 AM
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No, I don't expect you particularly care what I say about you, it was just a "labeling" if you will. Humanity is constantly changing. It absolutely makes you weak minded to be unable to flow with the progress of society, and I'm glad that you and people like you are the silent edgelord minority. If you think women should be raped, go land yourself in prison instead of being an internet contrarian coward making such bold claims. I don't care about how men handled gender roles in the past because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:29 AM
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There will always be men who do that. Literally always and forever. There will probably never be a time on this earth where 100% humans are 100% mentally healthy. Is it my fault? Nope. If you are a man who agrees “deep down” that women should raped, you are a weak-minded, abysmal human being. And if we want to play with impractical future implications, I’ll argue that the incels will always be a small minority because it’s not like they’re passing their genes on anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 11:04 PM
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Okay, then lets replace the word 'rights' with 'deserve'. I deserve to be treated equally. And you are honestly reaching SUPER hard if you think there's going to be a huge society uprising because of a very small, very mockable minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:53 PM
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We all know that attractive, high-value men do not go to niche subreddit forums to whine about the unfairness of the dating world. It's pretty apparent that you aren't in the game that you want to be in and you're taking it out on everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:27 PM
2

Of course not. Because having sympathy for somebody is not the same as wanting to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:17 PM
3

YES! Oh my gosh. I can instantly tell compatibility with a phone call. I won’t go on first dates without one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:56 PM
2

Are you honestly, really, truly, and sincerely expecting us to believe that you just really have a strong passion to help the poor sexless males? I mean, I’ll play along for the sake of polite semantic correctness, but I certainly hope that a part of you realizes you aren’t fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:53 PM
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You are literally saying that my refusal to fuck guys that I do not want to fuck is somehow idly participating in what you seem to be deeming the downfall of human civilization. One tingle. Lol. If you're going to condense it to something that ridiculous, I can't help you. Do I have to be emotionally AND physically AND mentally attracted to my partner? Yes. And incels definitely aren't the norm. Which is why they're incels. Which is why they are literally the laughing stock of the entire interne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:40 PM
5

I agree with you, but he's 21 years old. He's a kid. If you asked me in my deepest of hearts if I thought I was going to be with my then-boyfriend forever, I would have said probably not. It doesn't mean I didn't care about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:30 PM
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I don't give a single fuck because it's not my responsibility to let desperate men have access to my pussy. My pussy is not a bartering tool for world peace. You're getting one major thing wrong - the one's who are getting rejected for not playing nice are the incels. There will always be evolutionary misfits in any species. Sorry bro...I hope it was a good shower, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:24 PM
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Okay. The modern human species has been around for like 150,000 years with this selection method, but I'm sure your hurt feelings will point us towards a much sensible direction. I don't see it as my personal problem that lonely people exist. Lonely people will always exist. It's life. You can't function properly if you're overly concerned with everybody else's success. Take care of yourself and grow the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:42 PM
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I love the assumption that you only sit half a percentage away from what women are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:37 PM
9

If your definition of "being a shitty person" is people having different opinions than you, then maybe you are actually the shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:36 PM
7

I don't base my entire world on it. I base my dating preferences on it. My dating priorities and preferences are little levers that are constantly evolving and changing...as they should with any person. Right now, employed single dads give me tingles. When I was a teenager, sexy guitar players gave me tingles. The similarity here is that I never stopped gravitating towards what I wanted and it has never been detrimental to me. Are you...genuinely suggesting I force myself to be attracted to peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:33 PM
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Tingles are an amazing part of the human experience and I'm so sorry that you've never gotten to experience a mentally/physically/emotionally passionate relationship. That's not my problem and I'm not changing what I like to accommodate other people in the name of "sexual fairness".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:19 PM
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They are absolutely comparable because it's what my body physically wants. I'm not playing Affirmative Action dating. I'm going to get what excites me mentally, physically, and emotionally. How that manifests itself is none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:12 PM
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Nope. Attraction is not negotiable outside of a relatively small spectrum. And how small that spectrum is is up to the individual, and still entirely valid. For example, I might consider a guy who is two inches shorter. But I will never be sexually attracted to a man with a biological vagina because I inherently like dick. I like what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:07 PM
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I feel no obligation to be attracted to what I'm not attracted to. It's not POSSIBLE for me to feel attracted to what I'm not attracted to. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:24 PM
2

Yes. You can only have a preference for one or the other. We can’t get TOO crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:20 PM
2

No problem. I get cross-eyed arguing the same points with people over and over, hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:00 AM
1

Read again. It's not about whether or not I have the money. I can personally pay for every single date AND his rent if I wanted. You're right that rich men don't care. One way to weed out the unemployed low value men. And definitely a way to weed out the ones who aren't generous and don't know how to tap into a woman's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:58 AM
1

Are we going to pretend it's about if I can afford it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:37 AM
1

More like they will mature, change priorities, and fall back to one of the men who has always been chasing them. Sorry Charlie. It’d be a nice revenge-gasm though, wouldn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 07:56 PM
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People who have trouble finding dates want to pretend it’s a society issue that needs to be fixed. They don’t realize there’s a large majority doing fairly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 07:52 PM
0

Okay. Out of two equals, I choose the most attractive partner. So what? Is it my responsibility to keep things fair so your feelings don’t get hurt? Do we need a bastardized version of Affirmative Action for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 07:51 PM
1

So what are you wanting to do about it? Evolutionary preferences don’t care about our feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 07:44 PM
1

What? Yes I do. I love older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:18 PM
1

If you were 16, disregard what I said. We were all idiots then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:02 PM
1

I do online dating and have found that men around 35 are a lot less like that caricature. Which works, because I’m 34 and date older.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 02:40 AM
2

Of course they are. So let me worry about my competition with the ones who are actually targeting the men I’m into. So far I seem to be doing very well. Hmmm...I don’t know if I have any set idea of what I’m looking for, but I know how I want to feel. And I’m dating around the spectrum (gamers, non-gamers, sporty men, artsy men, sweet men, dominant men, etc.) to see what feels right. Maybe my perfect man-concoction doesn’t even exist because we are all nuanced human beings. It may have worked wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 02:01 AM
1

The SMV is in the toilet? Who cares, as they are still finding a partner? If I'm going to the grocery store, why should I take home the whole store when all I want/need is a certain thing from a certain aisle? You've listed about three different genres of women being 'pump-and-dumps' at this point, so I really think you should just reconsider the kind of men you hang around. If you're getting your stories from things you read on reddit, you're getting a dose of the wrong reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:55 PM
1

It is on the internet. You're lying if you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:25 PM
2

But then I'd have to deal with pictures of dead deer, ugly camo, and alcoholism. And, you know, Trump. I don't like those men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:15 PM
1

I'm not sure. Maybe specify something in particular instead of your low-effort insult and we can go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:03 PM
1

You're implying that every decent man absolutely prefers a 20something year old woman, hands down, and that's where you're starting off wrong. You can say 'most men this or that' until you're blue in the face, and the fact is that in my realm of reality, more than enough men are enthusiastic with what I have to offer. Even if HALF of the men in my dating sphere found me repulsive, there's still HALF that do not, and it's more than enough to occupy me. Plenty of quality men have beer guts. A qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:00 PM
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We can talk generation-wise. I was born in 1985...right on the line of Gen X and Millennial, I think. Millennial men are so fucking....frail and passive. I hate how they dress. I hate their skinny jeans and converses. I hate the mannerisms in how they speak. I hate their tiny wiry frames and avocado diets and hipster beanies. I hate the constant simping for women. I'm gonna go ahead and downvote myself to give you guys a headstart. Edit: Sorry, I have to add this, I hate their NASTY ASS UNKEMPT …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:41 PM
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This is going to get downvoted into oblivion, but fuck it. Few things on this earth are a bigger turn-off to me than a "woke male feminist." I'm sorry. I just cannot deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:35 PM
0

And you sound bitter and in complete denial of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:23 PM
1

Totally! And a lot of men do. There's also a LOT of divorced single dads desperate for somebody who understands their current priorities and schedules. I've actually asked a few guys that when the conversation came up, and at least two straight up said it's almost preferable. Divorced men/women with kids date each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:22 PM
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Wow what a great and well thought out contribution to this discussion! I agree, women who go after what they want are the fucking worst!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:07 PM
2

You can’t get relationships without dates. That’s the value in them. I won’t see how you can bat if I never let you step up to the plate in the first place. Do we need to talk about all of the shorter relationships I’ve called off? Because if one date isn’t enough, I have plenty of examples of men looking for multiple dates before AND after I slept with them. I’m not divorced, but no, I don’t think that being divorced lowers your value, as evident with the main examples I gave you. And I certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:05 PM
1

Why do you act like every Greater Beta (god that term is obnoxious) is a 33 year old man who can have the ability, desire, and game needed to successfully convince the pool of 20somethings to commit to him? I thought they wanted Alphas, right? Why is being a Greater Beta with a beer gut and a mortgage tying you down more appealing to an average young woman seeking Alphas qualities? Why is this literally anything I should give a second thought to when it makes no sense and has zero noticeable imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:51 PM
1

I have never met a woman had trouble finding dates simply because she was divorced. Literally never. I honestly thought this was the case when I was younger, but it just isn’t. I’ve seen it myself as a 34 year old in the dating field. I see it with my friends. I see it with my family members. Even if there WAS a not-insignificant portion of men turned off by it, there’s an equally not-insignificant portion of men who don’t care. I’m not “exceptionally” attractive unless I put on makeup and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:36 PM
1

Ask them. People get divorced for all kinds of reasons. Are you insinuating that a divorce makes you lose your value? Because I don’t live on that planet. My point is that the wall is a myth. Dating can be pretty unfair for men, but this revenge fantasy fueled by lonely incels just does not happen in real life. Are we going to argue that young women are drawn to the unpredictability of an attractive Chad? So what? Are we going to argue that priorities change and women seek stability as they’re o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:58 PM
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And how old are most guys you know? If they’re not in the 35-48 range, I’m not interested either. If they ARE 35-48 and want to date 20 year olds, let me personally call their Uber away from me. You know how many hot, quality 30-50 year old divorced men there are out there? And it’s a constantly replenishing supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:35 PM
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If a man in his 30s doesn’t want to marry me, that’s okay, there’s a 40something who would love a 34 year old. I can’t stress how much of a non-issue it is. A 25 year old not wanting to sleep with an “old” vagina? They aren’t even in my chosen dating sphere and have zero relevance to me. Any changes in my options are a ripple in an ocean and largely unnoticeable. I have yet to be pump and dumped. In fact, I have just turned down the second man in two years who wanted to get serious. It’s an illu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:43 PM
5

Well see, I don't go to bed with just anyone whenever I want. I don't feel worthless either. Are we slingling ad-hominems? Have we reached that level? Are you tapping out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:22 PM
5

Exactly. Facts are facts, and at the end of the day I'm never the one going to bed alone unless I choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:14 PM
0

So are you saying that pure success is having raw, sexual allure? Surely not. And furthermore, do you know of any women who prioritizes that past the age of 21, because I sure don't. It seems as though we have different versions of what Alpha entails. I certainly don't like men who are like that, never have, and know very few self-aware women who do unless the man is extremely capable of putting on a front of genuinely caring about her. So, using your definitions. I suppose I am aiming for Great…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:11 PM
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Girl, same. I think I'm actually WAY more attractive now than I was in my early 20s. You kind of get past the need to experiment with every fashion trend and learn how to really uniquely present yourself in a way that's super flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:56 PM
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Then you keep your definition of a valuable man to aid in your vengeful narrative you're trying to formulate here. I can assure you it's not the same definition women have. The men who will automatically prefer younger women, bar none, can HAVE them. I am so, so thankful. Yes, go, Get those younger women. Get out of my radar because there's already an overwhelming amount of other men. That hurts me about as much as it would hurt to never have to take the trash out again. I'll focus my attention …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:44 PM
1

You're defining success by your own vengeful rules that I don't even acknowledge or play by. The fact that they are so accomplished in life is what MAKES them "alpha". Do you little boys really not understand this? Do you truly think it's 100% about pure, raw, sexual attraction for every single woman? What changed? Nothing. There's still plenty of young, aimless, unstable, but sexually attractive men who chase me. Those were actually never my type, though I know a handful of naive women. Literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:38 PM
1

Unless you fully endorse equality are against gender segregation with every single thing, I'm already bored of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:13 PM
15

And here's an important message to every male who lives with this fantasy: You'll probably never ascend past the Stacy who rejects you, even when age catches them. If you're lucky, a decade from now you'll have enough value to realistically pursue her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:06 PM
4

I want to strap everybody who says that to a chair and make them sift through my online dating apps with the 35-48 age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:56 PM
7

The aging didn’t bother me very much at all, but it drove her crazy This is what I took from your post. In reality, men don't notice aging as intensely as we think they do. The men on TRP and incel forums know we think this way and use it as a desperate attempt at ammunition. The reality? I am an average post-wall woman and I'm thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:54 PM
5

More revenge fantasies. The only difference I'm facing now is that I'm sifting through doctors, engineers, and attorneys with varying levels of attraction instead of sifting through students and unemployed men with varying levels of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:48 PM
5

Please go tell the rocket scientist I just dumped for being boring that I was bordering on desperation. And while you're at it, tell the doctor on Bumble to stop asking for a second date because of something about steaks. Your revenge fantasies aren't reality. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:40 PM
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The SMV declines in a way that is literally the trash taking itself out. This isn't even a bad thing. I am SO glad that men who automatically prefer 24 over 34 are no longer going to be on my radar. And I can't tell you how happy I am to have to worry less about 20something year old douchebags being pervy towards me. Which still happens in abundance, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:32 PM
1

I'm sorry, I have literally forgotten what this entire thread is about, but you seem nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:24 PM
7

Red pill has a lot of truths. I say that as a chick. But god damn, those dudes twist it to such bizarre extremes. Like taking a cookie and smashing it into powder. Yeah, it's still a "cookie", but like...what the fuck have you done? People on both sides of the pill seem to forget how nuanced humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:17 PM
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I am a 34 year old woman. I'm not in the top 10% of attractiveness. I am literally the facial equivalent of "awkward wallflower who cleans up nicely." The wall is a lie. Whether or not some 22 year old would jack off to me because I have a couple more wrinkles is irrelevant to me in my dating reality. Whether or not a handful of 40 year old men would date me because he can get much younger is also irrelevant to me because I don't want to date them, either. I have never had so many dating options…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:11 PM
1

Lol right, he was like 'NUH UH' the entire time. I got fucking roasted. Or wait, was it the part where he was like, 'I DON'T LIKE GIRLS LIKE YOU ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU SPEND MONEY ON NAILS AND LIKE THAT'S JUST NOT NORMAL BECAUSE NO GIRL SPENDS MONEY ON THEIR APPEARANCE."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:13 AM
1

Theeeere's those true colors. You're bitter. And I'm really bored with this exchange. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:50 AM
1

It is absolutely more risky for a woman. You are literally having somebody physically dominate you and put themselves inside of you. You are opening yourself up to possible pregnancy or STIs that men can't even get tested for. You're an idiot if you say otherwise. I literally could not care less about your condo or donations, but nice flex I guess. I'm glad you got it out. I'm not a hypocrite. You just aren't that smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:46 AM
1

Relationships and sex are inherently more complicated and risky for a woman, and she should do what she needs to do to screen the uninterested men from the interested men. While it's true that low value men sometimes pay, high effort men ALWAYS pay. And my second point - women have options. Sorry. Have you ever SEEN woman's DMs or Tinder match profile? Again, if you aren't willing to step up to the plate, somebody else will be. I can't stress how much this is a complete non-issue for any somewha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:34 AM
1

Man, I wish I knew how to do the quote thing on here. He is the primary beneficiary of paying for our date if I decide to see him again. So, I think that's a win-win. I'm not even sure what you're talking about with the next point, so onto the next. Oh, honey - if you'd ghost a girl for spending money on her nails, I sure hope you're consistent and ghost her for spending money on any cosmetic thing at all. I think that's more of a testament to the complete lack of understanding of what it takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:19 AM
1

Both. I enjoy feeling pretty when I go out. I enjoy looking pretty on a date. I like being flirty. I don't have a problem with guys looking at me and thinking "She's cute." and going on about their life. I do mind when guys stare at my tits or ass. Are we going to split the very obvious hairs on that topic? I'm really bored with it. Men might not "notice" those things as something I put effort into. But lets not pretend that there's not a before and after WOW factor when a woman puts effort into…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:02 AM
2

That is literally how our society evolved, dude. The main can fork out $20 for my drinks. I've already forked out $100 in clothes, hair, nails, and all the other things that women to do advance socially and romantically. And if she's not working, she absolutely should be taking care of the home. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:50 AM
2

Yeah, there's problems. Because we are DIFFERENT. We can be different, understand our differences, understand how our differences complement each other in a romantic context, and STILL be equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:41 AM
1

Oh homie, if you can't even admit the very, very obvious problems in that situation, you are absolutely deluding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:37 AM
1

You're right. I'm literally going to petition for women to join the NFL right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:10 AM
1

The relationship dynamics of a man and woman get a little more nuanced and complicated once they start dating. It becomes about your intimate relationship with each other. Not advancing in the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:01 AM
2

Really, because I’m definitely cracking up. Nobody inherently owes anybody anything. Things just are the way they are. I don’t owe it to a man to wear a flattering outfit, makeup, or shave my legs, but those are things I choose do because they help with social and romantic leverage whether I like it or not. You can select whatever you comment you want to form a hyperbolic narrative of my lifestyle and priorities. I guess that’s human.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:48 PM
2

Yeah, I butcher posts on mobile pretty regularly. Good eye! I am absolutely amazed at how much analysis you are putting into a conversation that started here. Yes, it’s an outdated concept, but the biological desire is there. I’m too busy spending my money on things and services to make me look good on dates. That’s shallow, too. Homeboy can foot the $20 tab for the two-ish drinks I usually get. Do you want me to send him your way if he doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:34 PM
1

I’ll never be crazy successful in the business world, but whatever, I’m happy making above $60k and being a trust fund baby. :) But for the record, that equality has absolutely nothing to do with dating. Sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:23 PM
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You are a hilariously pretentious. Don’t forget what subreddit you’re on. Here, I’ll downvote myself for camaraderie. You show those mans how independent and strong you are! Meanwhile, I’m steering clear of the men who make a significant amount of money but expect to go halfsies on everything. Please date them so that I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:18 PM
3

You are typing way too many big words for the brevity of that initial comment. It’s okay. Chill. Let me hold you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:04 PM
3

I love how obsessed you are with how you feel I reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:56 PM
1

What? Why are you so angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:44 PM
1

I’m well aware of what your intentions with the post were. I’m just asking you to go date those men. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:35 PM
1

Of course I can. Can we stop pretending it’s about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:23 PM
2

Because being financially secure isn’t an attractive and absolutely necessary quality for a relationship. What are we trying to do, make her like us?! Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:07 PM
1

Can you do me a favor and go date the men who think like this so I don’t have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:04 PM
5

So you’re surprised you attracted a douchebag by pretending to be a douchebag and were shocked when she dumped you for not being a douchebag. Cool. So let’s project that on every woman, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:01 PM
3

I don’t think it’s a double-standard if what I offer back is uniquely feminine. It’s a counterbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 09:25 PM
2

That’s a fantastic point. I am more inclined to at least offer if I know I don’t want to see the guy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 09:16 PM
2

I don't think that wanting the best for me and my future family makes me shallow, but I'll concede that the desire for a masculine man isn't a survival necessity in 2020. There's a lot of vestigial things (evolutionary leftovers) with the cognitive functions of the brain, we just like to pick on the ones that don't make us feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 08:10 PM
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That's not that much of a difference. And even a significantly attractive man will simply not traditionally and romantically date an unattractive woman. I don't know where you live, but I don't see a lot of ugly/overweight women proactively chasing Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:52 PM
2

And I'm agreeing with you while adding why they shouldn't. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:47 PM
1

How you gonna end up a plate if you never fuck him in the first place? Thank god for high standards!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:45 PM
3

LOL, why do men think that every possible dating scenario is a 5/10 woman going out with a 8/10 man to fancy restaurants? It never works like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:43 PM
2

I know! Are you kidding me? A man should be honored I'm letting him have my time. Paying is literally the least you can do if you ask a woman out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:39 PM
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And, why should men be expected to work to finance first dates? Doesn't sound fair to me Because you were born a man and life doesn't revolve around fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:37 PM
6

This is actually an incredibly great point. I do think women should reciprocate more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:33 PM
2

Okay. So here's a raw feeling that I generally cannot articulate well enough to bother delving into on reddit. Women and men are equal but different. There is not a single part of me that wants to date a man who will gladly let me fix major things around the house and fumble around with tools because he doesn't know or want to know how. There is nothing attractive to me about paying for my dates way because he's low on money or doesn't feel the need to. I want nothing to do with a man who doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:30 PM
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I always get the impression that guys are absolutely astonished when women prefer men who pay on the first few dates. I have literally had multiple arguments on here from men insisting that women caring isn't even a 'thing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:00 AM
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You don't have to believe me. I'm indifferent to that. You're ultimately going to believe what you want to help sculpt your own narrative. I could have been married twice by now if I wasn't so picky. I don't care how much he spends on dates. That's not my problem and I'm not his financial adviser. If he plans the date, he can figure out his budget to go along with it. If a 40 year old man with a solid career lets a women pay for drinks on a date that HE asked for, he deserves to be shamed. And h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:34 PM
1

I fear ending up with the wrong person more than I fear being single. I’m at peace being single. Will I stay like that if a subpar man is part of my life? But you are right overall. I have a very regimented list of the qualities I want in a man because I’m 100% past the bullshit you experience as a woman in the dating world. I’m not interested in fixer-uppers or men who don’t have their life together. A HVM is a man that is doing well for himself and has the confidence and wisdom to tap into a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:08 PM
1

I’m 34. I will be the first to admit that my dating experience as a way-older millennial will be different than a 20 year old. As it should be, because people in their early 20s have no real urgent drive to look for lifelong commitment. I’ve found, repeatedly, that the “but sexism!!” warning is only a fantasy made up by men who don’t like having to work a little harder. I have yet to date or even meet a man who expects me to be super traditional just because he pays. Those black and white parame…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:16 PM
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If I have to work for your investment, I’ve already lost interest in you. It’s not my fault you date women who might use you for a meal. If it bothers you or significantly hurts your bank account, you probably aren’t as financially comfortable or high value as you think. If he isn’t in a place to comfortably pay for drinks HE asked me to have with him, I’m not interested. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:52 PM
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It’s not about whether I can pay the bill myself. Of course I can. And I am always prepared to pay my way with a smile. He just won’t get a second date. Women have a lot more to lose when sleeping with a man. If he wants to get that far, he has to play his cards right. And part of that is tapping into my biological need and desire to feel cared for by my man. Every single man in my dating range of 35-45 who has insisted on paying for our date was looking for something serious. Every single one. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:45 PM
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I WANT my dating pool to be reduced. Do you have ANY idea how easy it is for women to find dates? That's how I filter out the kind of men I don't want. I don't know why everybody brings that up like it's a huge surprise? Just because I don't approach doesn't mean I don't reciprocate signals of attraction. He just has to do it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:53 AM
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No. I don't chase men. The reality for women is that dick abundant and plentiful. If a man is into you, you won't have to chase. If he doesn't have the confidence, that's not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:53 AM
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Exactly. It's not about getting a certain dollar amount from a man. It's him showing that he's going to invest in you before you literally give him a part of yourself. Do men truly not have any idea how differently sex can affect women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:45 AM
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I’m in my mid 30s. I’ve been on so many first dates that I’ve lost count. You’re actually wrong. I’ve dated men all along the spectrum of objective “attractiveness”. One thing that high value men have in common is that they ALWAYS grab the check without hesitation. Regardless of looks. Put it this way - a man who is high value is financially stable and understanding of sexual chemistry. Meaning, a high value man knows a woman’s panties aren’t getting wet as she’s digging through her purse to pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 12:49 AM
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The whole social construct of being a big and strong male has no current evolutionary value, but we still like men who are taller than us. Women have biological needs that you need to either meet or know how to tap into to create sexual desire. You don’t have to try, but don’t get mad when I date men who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 12:36 AM
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Not if he can afford it. In my experience, financially set men take pride in paying. It’s not even a second thought. We all know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 12:03 AM
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I'm perfectly capable of splitting the bill, and even paying for every single date. Do we need to play the game where we're pretending it's about whether or not we have our own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:04 PM
3

I'm 34. My expectations and dating methods are going to be drastically different than most of the younger millennials you find here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:02 PM
4

That actually works out perfect, because I would never want a man around 40ish who can connect with a 20 year girl on a personal/romantic level. Win-win!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 09:54 PM
2

I’ve been on 80 bagillion dates and your second sentence is the complete opposite of my experience as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:57 PM
2

It’s absolutely a discerning factor. It boggles my mind how many people try to claim otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:54 PM
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My dating range is men 35-45. If they can’t afford the extra effort to tap into my biological need to feel cared for, there’s plenty of men in that age range who will without a second thought. It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:51 PM
1

It kills me that people deny this because they’re either too lazy or incapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:46 PM
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Biological. Give a big, tall man to envelope me as a little spoon. 🤤
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:05 PM
1

This is one of those questions that reveals how every single member of this subreddit sees themselves as normal and everyone else as “the crazy ones”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:02 PM
1

There are a million reasons why, but generally people don’t ask dating subs about relationships with family members. She probably found the sub for the same reason we all did and got swept up into the concentrated toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:39 PM
0

A teenage girl literally asked if she should preemptively start distancing herself from her brother and father. If having a loving relationship with my family is considered “domestic servitude and free emotional labor”, then we have entirely different grips on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:34 PM
2

The problem is that you guys are less interested in actually discussing dating strategies and more into complaining about how you think all men are fundamentally pigs while throwing the term “Pickmeisha” out to anybody who disagrees on any level. You guys have all of these vulnerable, impressionable women joining the group who get so wrapped up in the mud-slinging that they ask if they should stop taking to family members. I’ll say it again - the FDS handbook is gold. The FDS subreddit is the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:19 PM
1

You think any follower of FDS is going to respect a man who follows that easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:28 PM
1

This is true. Most women do want a leader. And good ones are hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:00 PM
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Is there anybody who does not want a relationship that benefits them? FDS is mostly full of hurting women. I know because I also went there as a hurting woman. It’s an echo chamber used to vent that is disguised as a strategy forum. But the strategy stuff is true. I don’t know else to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:58 PM
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I actually just got banned from FDS because I said that it’s okay for a long term boyfriend to sexually flirt with his girlfriend. Listen, the FDS guidebook is legit. I promise you. The problem with the actual subreddit is that it’s full of incredibly angry, jaded women who have been horribly hurt in the past and have zero ability to make judgements without taking in the entire context of the situation. Thus, the attitude towards almost every man is dripping with absolute disdain. I just saw a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:33 PM
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I’d probably be an incel because I’m terrible at flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:59 PM
2

I’m 5’9 and I don’t get to feel “protected” or small very often. Tall guys all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:23 AM
3

Yes. ALWAYS make them call you first. Always. You can end up saving yourself a lot of time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 05:00 PM
7

Can we start a series of these??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/20 04:07 PM
5

Astrology is proof of people's natural desperation for a sense of identity and belonging when they cant find one themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/20 10:24 PM
4

I dumped a guy on the spot when he told me he believed astrology.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/20 10:22 PM
1

I think all men want to find “that person” deep down. When they say that, they just don’t want YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:12 PM
13

The audacity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/20 01:15 AM
4

Seriously? You think any self respecting woman is going to want a future with a man who can’t even take care of his first child?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:41 PM
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Seconding this. I found out one of my dates had 3 kids, and it wasn’t a dealbreaker. You know what was? He didn’t see or take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:20 PM
1

No problems with mobility and it honestly doesn’t feel like anything. :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/20 06:58 PM
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I want to blast this all over the dating subreddits. Some of those posts are exhausting. I was that sucker once upon a time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/20 08:43 PM
3

I totally agree with the “wanting a sweet and nice girl” comment being creepy, but OP seemed particularly upset about being called a “sweet girl”. Which is what confused me. That’s my bad for not getting the full context. But just calling someone a sweet girl/boy? Not necessarily always intended as a patronizing thing. But in this full context, it does seem so.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/20 02:26 AM
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/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 10:24 PM
0

I literally say that all the time regarding both genders.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 10:22 PM
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I throw around “sweet/nice boy” all the time in reference to grown men with no malicious intent. I’ve never taken it as an insult or meant it as such. But I suppose I understand how it could be perceived negatively.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 10:15 PM
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I can totally see being called “girl” at 40+ as kind of condescending when you aren’t used to hearing it, but I try to take that stuff in context. Where I’m from “sweet girl” is just another meaningless term of endearment. I even say it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 10:07 PM
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On the other hand, I have a fake set and I LOVE them. I’m 5’10 with broad shoulders, and it makes me feel SO much more feminine.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 03:00 AM
1

True. I honestly don’t have an issue finding taller men in my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:56 PM
1

I disagree. I’m 5’10 and have an extremely hard time feeling attracted to anything shorter. It’s possible, but rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:33 PM
2

They’ll date anybody they find attractive. The question is how long he’ll respect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:28 AM
2

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but how is this meme different than the Pick Me mentality we make fun of?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/19 03:28 PM
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Excuse me, all of those boys are super handsome.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/19 12:51 AM
42

Louder for the angry short men in the back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/19 07:53 PM
13

I’m totally with you there. While I prefer drinks as a first date, I understand why others are averse to it. I just keep it higher end. I want to wear a dress. If they suggest some loud college bar or happy hour at Chili’s, they can fuck right off.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/10/19 11:26 PM
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I’m kinda with you there. I feel a little uncomfortable eating in front of somebody I just met in an intimate setting. I just feel like I can’t relax and get a chance to converse and “read” them. Date 2 and onwards? Heck yeah, wine and dine me, bitches.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/10/19 11:16 PM
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I honestly prefer going to higher-end cocktail and wine bars. I’ve never been one to get “sloppy”, and I’ve personally found that eating makes for a terrible Date 0 (first date). I need to be on my game and have the time and space to ease in the deal-breaker questions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/10/19 11:00 PM
2

My rule is that I’m always prepared to pay for myself, and I always offer. But if he LETS me pay in the first few dates? Nope, bye!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/19 06:02 AM
1

I'm more concerned that he introduced you to his kids after only 2 months.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/10/19 04:01 AM
2

Are you in the room watching the woman struggle to get away while literally being held down and raped? Or you know, maybe she’s there for a paycheck. Maybe I should take down my amateur video because you say I was raped.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 12:34 PM
2

I see you’re an ad-hominem slinging extremist. Free yourself, sis.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 12:31 PM
2

If you’re insisting on playing semantics, then go ahead and call it sexual freedom. Which is also empowering, because it literally implies they are free to express themselves. If you don’t understand how that’s liberating, we might need to reroute the conversation to focus on vocabulary expansion and reading comprehension.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 11:53 AM
0

If it makes them happy and is done with consent on all ends, they can feel however they want about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 11:50 AM
1

We’re talking about sexual empowerment. Keep it on topic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:59 AM
2

And it’s certainly not your place to tell her what she does or doesn’t find sexually arousing or empowering.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:55 AM
1

I never said everything and anything was empowering. I’m saying if a woman wants to get choked during sex and/or film it, she should have every right to. It’s about consent.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:54 AM
1

I have literally never met a woman who was empowered by an abusive relationship but ok.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:50 AM
2

It’s relative. If it’s empowering to me, it’s empowering to me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:41 AM
2

It’s empowering if I find it empowering. YOU don’t decide that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:40 AM
2

Am I supposed to take your word for it just because you say so? Girl, I shoved my tits in men’s faces when I was 18-22 and it helped put me through college. Zero regrets.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:38 AM
1

Did you just unironically use “sheeple”? Girl, bye. Keep fighting the good fight. 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:37 AM
1

I usually do it myself.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:36 AM
1

“Pornsick”? Girl, that’s a lot of assumptions you’re making. It’s hilarious.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:35 AM
1

Ask them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:35 AM
1

Did I say I agreed with prostitution? 10/10 for straw grasping, there.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 02:34 AM
2

Are they linking any good porn?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 12:34 AM
1

You’re completely ignoring the fact that many women in the industry find it empowering. That’s where embracing your sexuality comes into play. I don’t see women acting as openly sexual beings as “broken”. That’s where maybe YOUR lack of understanding comes into play. As a woman who has shoved her tits into skeezy men’s faces and actually ENJOYED the job, I do think I’m a little qualified to speak on the subject of actually enjoying the financial aspects of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:56 PM
1

I’m empowered by my sexuality and I supported myself financially by putting my tits in mens faces. That’s how that relates. Prostitution is not media-based pornography and is entirely different bowl of apples. Sexuality is empowering. You don’t have to embrace it. That’s your prerogative.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:34 PM
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Thank you for these wonderful, unbiased sources!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:31 PM
-1

You say it’s mostly tailored for men when myself and several other women will tell you that we enjoy it. Disturbing is relative. What you think of as “disturbing” might be vanilla sex for me. Maybe sexually I WANT to be slapped around and dominated physically. Maybe I like doing it myself. Porn is great. Moderate indulgence is great and absolutely healthy. If women enjoy seeing their crazy BDSM fetishes (or whatever visuals you would call “damaging”) played out, more power to them. I’m glad some…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:29 PM
0

Oh wow! Such great unbiased sites! “Anti Porn Feminists” is sure to have a completely balanced look. Thank you for this wealth of information!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:23 PM
0

Lol. Not every cam girl pretends to love it. I have two friends who did it to put themselves through college and they’re both super thankful for the opportunities it gave them financially. I worked for years in a job where I put my sexuality on display for men. It felt empowering more than anything. I was in control of the situation and making absolute bank in tips. I have no regrets and had an overall great experience. I can sit here and combat your anecdotes with mine all day if you want.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 10:06 PM
4

It’s not only men who have those desires. Women have all kinds of kinks like you probably wouldn’t dare to believe. I’ll never argue that there’s shady things in the porn industry. There’s shady things in every industry. And again, the worst case scenarios do not define it as a whole. That’s not how the world works.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:48 PM
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Popularity does not indicate addiction. And that’s super great for you. I have no problem with my imagination, either. I’m just appreciate a good visual. There’s no good in porn if you decide porn is literally all about violence, drugs, rape, etc... but it’s not. So your argument is fundamentally wrong.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:34 PM
1

Maybe you should go watch porn and rub one out, too. It might help you relax a bit.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:12 PM
1

Well, primarily cam-girls. They did amateur porn as well. Sometimes they got fucked ON cam. Keep pigeon holing every argument, though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:12 PM
1

Basically, yes. There’s people with addictions to cutting themselves. Should we ban the razor industry? I’m sure there’s plenty of really sad self-harm subreddits here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:09 PM
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You’d be super hard pressed to find a man who doesn’t watch porn and I’d be skeptical of any man who claims not to. I’m not disagreeing there are shady things that happen in the porn industry. There’s shady things that happen in every industry. But I’m not basing my conclusions on a handful of anecdotes. Sorry. I know women who were cam girls and fucking loved it. I worked at Hooters and I fucking loved it. World isn’t black and white, boo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:08 PM
1

I too base my sole opinion on any given topic from the absolute worst case scenarios.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:00 PM
-1

Y’all really need to up your vetting game if this is a continuous problem for you. I’ll never argue there hoards of shitty men. Good thing subs like this exist...welcome!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 09:00 PM
0

Wow thank you for this direct link from an anti-porn site, how unbiased and informative!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 08:58 PM
-4

Addictive personalities get addicted to things. Porn is great when I’m horny and need to get off quickly. It doesn’t extend beyond that, and the same goes for other normal people. Self-indulgent? Hell yeah! Everything else? Depends on the people and depends on the porn. There’s good and bad in literally everything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 08:57 PM
5

I only watch organic, grass-fed porn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 08:10 PM
2

If you believe they don’t watch porn, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 08:09 PM
1

If the type of men you’re finding are being seriously influenced by porn, maybe you should consult the dating strategies discussed in this sub.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 07:55 PM
4

Yes. I like the pornography where there is sex between two consenting adults. You can keep twisting this as morbidly as you want.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 07:53 PM
3

I can have a biological enjoyment and appreciation of sex and still be on the same page with everything else.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 07:14 PM
-7

I like watching sex, too. There are also other women who like having and watching sex. You can manipulate that narrative as much as you want, boo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 04:53 PM
-17

I like sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/19 04:48 PM
1

I guess that only works in every dating subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:30 PM
12

Exactly. Watch this: HEY REDDIT. I REFUSE TO DATE SHORT MEN!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:44 AM
1

She’ll always have the upperhand. I’m happy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 04:09 PM
2

So you’re staying with a woman you won’t marry, but somebody else gladly will whenever she’s actively ready. Meanwhile you’re taking complete care of her. Win/win situation for her, buddy! You think you have the upper hand here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:47 PM
1

No no, unattractive men are fine. Unattractive men who ask me out are fine. The ones that aren’t are the one who throw a fit for being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 11:19 PM
2

Only the ones who think they’re entitled to my time as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:57 PM
12

You sound short.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:32 AM
1

Totally! I love their tantrums when women don’t sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:25 AM
3

I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:07 AM
2

What’s the last civilization you made?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:32 AM
2

If I’m disregarding their feelings by not dating then, then I’m ok with that. They can be my cranky little minions. 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:32 AM
2

What’s the deal with him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:29 AM
1

Yeah, but only the ones that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:23 AM
1

I think you’re safe, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:15 AM
1

Lol what it was literally your first comment, are you ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:05 AM
1

I rate ur creativity $55 betabuxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:27 PM
1

Who cares about “place” when you literally just wanna get fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:23 PM
1

Have fun w ur CHADS and BetaBuxx, NO ONE WILL WANT U PAST 25. Jokes on you, I’m over here at my middle-management IT job making MAD CASH.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:20 PM
1

OK ROASTIE AT LEAST I DONT HAVE PERIODS 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:17 PM
1

If it makes you feel better, I group the especially bitter incels here in with about 80% of TRP and MGTOWs whose sole purpose is trolling these forums with attempts to angrily rationalize away their lack of a girlfriend. Currently going with “Whiny Bitch Brigade” but I’m looking for something catchier. Open to suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:15 PM
1

Absolutely it is. Your mistake is assuming the men using that as a rebuttal on this forum are those attractive men. Hot men aren’t angry about women getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:04 PM
1

What’s wrong with the occasional dirty cum-dumpster sex in a FWB or relationship? Yes please. You got me on the bleeding, though. Score one for the incels, right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:01 PM
2

You think prostitutes are actually getting hot for you as an individual? Is this the narrative now? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:57 PM
1

Me? No. I’m not into effeminate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:44 PM
1

You don’t get statistics, do you? I’d love to keep explaining this, but I can’t keep teaching you what high school math has failed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:37 PM
15

Only answer you need. It’s their coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:38 PM
1

I noticed you didn’t address the part of your statistics where 1 in every 10 men is on an antidepressant and men are 3.53x MORE likely to die by suicide. See, if you’re going to try to use statistics to prove a point, it helps if you include both sides. Anything else? We can do this all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:08 AM
1

Nope, definitely doesn’t. So that entire conversation can end here. :) It just kills you guys that women can be over 30 and entirely happy with their lives, doesn’t it? I guess it ruins the whole “post-28 women are all regretful hags!” you guys tend to use as coping fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:07 AM
5

I wish. I’ll go back to my other account and look. It was years ago.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/19 07:20 PM
85

I remember being downvoted to hell on one thread about dating preferences because I...get this...listed my preferences. Meanwhile, one of the more upvoted comments was a guy talking about how he couldn’t even LOOK at his girlfriend if she didn’t straighten her hair.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/19 12:04 AM
1

Sure, I’ve approached before. But I prefer being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:14 PM
0

Lol what
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:03 PM
1

Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:44 PM
1

If you don't think there is a difference between 'everything' and 'strongly prefer' then there's no where else to go from here. I can't teach you what K-12 reading comprehension has failed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 11:33 PM
1

Yes. Some women like some things and dislike others. I strongly prefer taller men, but the most in love I’ve ever been was with a guy who was like 5’6. Height isn’t everything to every women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:55 PM
1

I never said that many women don’t greatly value height. I AM one. But it’s far from the only thing that makes me think “I’d fuck this guy.” Much less a deal-sealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:50 PM
1

If you want to drastically narrow this down to focus on the handful of shallow women who literally only care about how tall you are even if you’re a shitbag, then go ahead, I guess. But that’s far, far from a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:46 PM
1

No. Tyrone generalized his experience with women on an account of the fact that he was purely tall. Not that he had other desirable qualities. He was just tall. And all women will apparently date any man just for being tall. It doesn’t work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:42 PM
1

Yes. Height is something, but it’s not everything. Y’all is not the be all end all for attraction, but it can be a huge component. A tall, doormat guy isn’t attractive. His height means nothing in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:36 PM
1

Just because you’re tall doesn’t guarantee the women you want to fuck will want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:24 PM
1

Yeah. Some women like certain things and some don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:22 PM
1

If a man does not approach me, I don’t think about or care about his confidence levels in a romantic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 05:49 AM
1

Lack of confidence can manifest itself in a ton of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 05:25 AM
1

I’m sorry hear that. I definitely still have a lot of the same insecurities, but it’s WAYmore subdued and put into perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 04:51 AM
1

I didn’t imply that they didn’t lack confidence. I said that without them approaching me, I neither SEE their confidence nor interest in me, so I don’t think about them one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 04:29 AM
1

Sure, it’s not black or white. But if they don’t approach me I won’t know or care what their confidence level is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:40 AM
3

Your experience with occasional dates and friendships does not trump my life stories and experience as a woman. Sorry. The fact is that while plenty of women want to settle down, plenty of other women are simply ambivalent and happy to continue with our lives as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 06:33 PM
2

I never experienced the alcohol fueled 20s. I spent that decade in two different LTRs. There are millions of reasons a woman would find herself single. You really think every woman follows the same path? You guys really have these coping generalizations and mental gymnastics down to a science, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 06:09 PM
1

Well, if he hasn't noticed me, he hasn't noticed me. Enough men that I'm attracted to do notice and pursue me, so I generally don't feel the need to approach a man who is attractive but sending no signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:50 PM
7

Wow. It's like the TRP vomited and an incel ate it and shit it out. This is hilarious. You guys do exist. Stay bitter. This is actually priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:46 PM
2

I feel fulfilled in relationships with proactive, confident men. I've dated passive, appeasing, and shy men before and it was awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:35 PM
2

The perfect guy for me will approach me to show his interest. Because that's what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:27 PM
2

It sucks. I'm not going to pretend it's fair. But I'm also not going to pretend that I don't prefer confident men and being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:21 PM
9

Right, because there's not a million other reasons that a woman would be single. Is this some weird incel cope bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:18 PM
1

That is literally exactly what I said in my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:10 PM
2

As somebody with a vagina, your last point is so incredibly exaggerated. It's something that a lot of men tell themselves to make them feel better when being rejected. I'm 34 and have never had more of a bustling dating life. My options are plentiful. And just like when I was 23, there are good eggs and bad eggs, but it's generally only gotten better in quality as I'm now confident in what I will and will not put up with. And actually, more and more of my female friends are getting married (or r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:07 PM
1

I'm saying that I don't know and probably don't care if they have interest unless they come up to me and show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:56 PM
1

They don't AUTOMATICALLY. If you think that's the only thing women find attractive, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:53 PM
0

Nah dude, as soon as you pull out the 'Women only love HEIGHT!' card, it's fairly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:52 PM
1

All kinds of women fawn over all kinds of men. I've seen all kinds of men fawn over all kinds of women. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:50 PM
0

It's generally hard to 'win' when your entire premise is faulty and saturated with bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:49 PM
0

And every woman with big tits automatically has dozens of quality men chasing her, right? And, like the OP of this sub-thread, every woman with big tits is automatically content with their life and comfortable being themselves. That's how logic works, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:48 PM
0

Dismissing his experience with the assumption that women automatically fawn over guys who are 6' and over. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:43 PM
1

Spoken with the dismissive tone of a bitter short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:40 PM
6

Considering there's an uprising of women who don't even want children these days, probably not. I've always been more than happy to be childless or have step-kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:39 PM
1

No, I'm telling you that every man who has had a genuine interest in me has happily kept a pursuit of me in the initial dating process. The ones who were wish-washy, uninterested, or never actually wanted a relationship do not keep up a pursuit. If you're not confident enough to approach me, I'm assuming you're the latter, even if I'm attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:33 PM
4

I don't know you personally, so this is all just speculation. I feel like in our 30s, we're all just a lot more comfortable in our own skin and with who we are as a person. And that definitely shows to the opposite sex, especially women. It seems you're a naturally charming and likable person who can spark interest in lots of women, and that's what they find 'exciting'. It's always thrilling to interact with somebody who you like as a person and are attracted to. And it's also the fact that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:48 PM
1

Oh, I know my standards and physical preferences affect my decisions. And I'm entirely okay with it. I don't actually think men care about a women's status, since women are usually valued for other qualities. You will see rich, successful men marrying beautiful waitresses and bartenders all the time. I don't know about you, but I've never personally seen the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:38 PM
4

I mean, exciting and fun is all subjective. What's exciting to me is not necessarily exciting for another. I see 'exciting' as somebody who lifts your spirits and makes you enjoy their presence. Not necessarily whether or not they're into extreme sports or have a full social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:34 PM
11

I think the first pot shot was taken in the assumption that only fat women are the ones who don't want 'bad boys'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:20 PM
1

Post mining irrelevant stories and misusing accusatory words is the epitome of confidence. C'mere, stud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:17 PM
2

I'm not OP. But I can concur. Every man who has ever been genuinely interested in me has actively pursued me. Maybe men were were genuinely interested and not confident enough to pursue, in which case I never found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:16 PM
1

Lol! I'll take that as a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:13 PM
1

Where's the hypocrisy? Do you know what that word means?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:12 PM
11

Sorry, is this a thread or a group that's only for men to vent their dating frustrations? Saying that nobody wants doormat men is no less of an unnecessary 'pot shot' than saying that nobody wants fat women, which I even agree with. Pretty rich coming from you whose immediate reaction is to assume I'm fat and throw a snarky comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:10 PM
1

Lol! That's a lot of assumptions from a story you don't know the full details on. Preferring confident men doesn't mean that every man who approaches will be a gem. ;) Great post mining, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:08 PM
6

Lol, that comment was neither agreeing or disagreeing with you. I'm point out there are different types of men and women who nobody likes. Why you so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:03 PM
30

Yes. And those men are usually already in relationships for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:59 PM
16

Just like nobody wants doormat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:58 PM
1

At least one of us is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:57 PM
1

Uhh. If a man approaches me, it shows confidence. Literally, in my face confidence. I don't actually have the time to go around to each man I may be attracted to and learn their levels of dating confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:51 PM
3

Lonely men be like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:49 PM
1

Thanks, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:44 PM
3

I think it's important to be attracted to somebody, so standards for looks are fine. The thing about 'status' for me isn't that I'm attracted to their status itself...I'm more impressed by what it implies. For somebody to have an incredibly important position, they generally also posses a lot of other desirable qualities, such as confidence, intelligence, good work ethic, and assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:42 PM
2

Nobody really realizes they have low standards. I know I definitely did before I forced myself to get a reality check after my last long-term boyfriend broke up with me. All of the signs of ambivalence and dishonesty were there...every. single. one. And I overlooked them because I was afraid of being 'naggy' and I liked the life we had built otherwise. It's so hard now...when women talk about how their dates or boyfriends/husbands are treating them....I want to shake sense into them. Expect the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:39 PM
2

Amazing! I preach this all the time, but a lot of women (and men) refuse to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:29 PM
0

Attraction to confidence is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 12:39 PM
6

Nobody accuses ugly men of sexual assault when they flirt. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:18 AM
8

If they weren’t confident enough to pursue, I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:17 AM
25

Honestly? Because I don’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:13 AM
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