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I agree. If their partner always goes straight for sex whenever affection is shown can be tiring and can make them feel like the relationship is one dimensional. But the amount of vulnerability needed on both to really allow themselves to be open like that is hard for a lot of people. Both men and women. In a sense straight fkn can be less intimate for some and the actual hugs, touches and kisses can be too much for some. Ultimately I think the goal is to find someone who sees those blind spots …
/r/MensRights21/01/26 09:29 PM
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Fam, a hug from behind from your partner does wonders. It isn’t even about the sex it’s about in that moment your partner just wants to express their love for you. I honestly think some women may trivialize something so simple because they themselves can’t really comprehend that a genuine and affectionate touch can really heal your partner. The amount of men who have never experienced that or maybe had it once decades ago is staggering. I can honestly say for me it’s been a solid 10 years since …
/r/MensRights21/01/26 08:24 PM
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The love languages book is honestly pretty decent, even if it simplifies what we respond to, I do think it is a good way to understand your partner. I remember a long time ago I would sometimes peruse the dating subs and would see some women complaining about how men have physical touch as their love language and would just equate it to men wanting sex. Just completely reducing it to some weird ploy for sex. It was interesting because I realized I don't think some women really care about what th…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 12:32 PM
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I think part of it is that vulnerability in relationships have become somewhat taboo. Like someone said in another comment that some guys have been met with "i am not your therapist" when opening up to their partner about something deep (I am one of them). And on the flip side I have seen men shamed for going to therapy. When I have heard my women friends speak on feeling lost about becoming closer with their partners, it seems like they have an idea on how they want to be close to them, but the…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 12:22 PM
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I don’t think some women know how meaningful genuine love and affection can soothe and help their partner. I can recall the last time I felt genuine affection from a partner and it was as if the issues I was dealing with in that moment melted away. It doesn’t even need to be sex. Just that acknowledgment of seeing me and wanting to be present with me. But if maybe that isn’t their way of showing affection then it just is more so a compatibility issue.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 11:49 PM
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Wouldn’t be surprised if the guy in the story didn’t even move closer to them. I’ve learned sometimes people like to add to their story to get more of whatever they are looking for. In this case. Internet attention. Sick guy on a train is not much. But sick guy on a train that randomly moves closer to them for no reason definitely paints the picture that they want to paint.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 02:08 AM
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Still inconsistent though. Like this is one of the ways we lose, gotta stop allowing anyone to say any dumbass thing they want just because they passionate, smh
/r/MensRights14/11/25 02:00 PM
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/r/MensRights11/11/25 11:20 AM
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Exactly. They make them incredibly stupid and then sprinkle in a couple of extra shitty qualities to make the woman character seem like she is doing it all. What I find funny is that I’m seeing women even getting tired of the “man bad” narrative.
/r/MensRights23/10/25 02:00 PM
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I agree with this, but I would add that sometimes it is the fact that they have been deprived of any affection, that even false affection can mess them all the way up. It’s like a bad drug. It makes you feel amazing in the moment but that come down is rough. I honestly wish I had enough money to open up a simp rehab center. Really help guys get out of that mindset and realize that they matter as well as their time, resources and attention also.
/r/MensRights03/02/25 02:38 PM
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Men get rejected on the front end and women get rejected on the back end. So basically women have no shortage of men trying to get with them, but find it more difficult for men to stay interested after intimacy. Patrice O’Neal spoke on this in more detail. But basically men have to work to be successful in almost anything they do, the women just have to sit back and see which one they like the best.
/r/MensRights02/01/25 05:03 PM
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It wouldn’t work sadly. We would first all have to be on the same accord in regards to things like porn, OF and social media in general. Just taking our attention back will work wonders. But we truly need all men to be on board.
/r/MensRights08/12/24 05:01 PM
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Fictional male characters then I can think of a few. Sheriff Andy Taylor Hank Hill Ned Flanders Ron Swanson As far as real life guys then I would need to think. For me my old judo sensei was someone I considered as a great role model. He taught me a lot that I still carry with me today.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 01:16 PM
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I think what people fail to realize with these statements is that the men violating women aren’t making it known to mass population of men that they are like that. Most men do not want to hurt or violate anyone, let alone women. And if they found out a friend was treating women like that, I’m sure they wouldn’t even be friends with them anymore at the very least. The men who engage in treating women like this are not going to let many people know they are violating women. They know they will get…
/r/MensRights15/08/24 11:48 AM
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I equate it to them not wanting to be with a guy who has significant debt or has a gambling problem. They may not be like that anymore, but one would question their decision making skills in regards financial security and stability.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 12:08 PM
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I hope they keep it. It was a rough scene In the comics. But still goofball ass dudes were still calling him lucky. It was violent and awful. If the crater she made with him is any foreshadowing, then you know what’s up
/r/MensRights12/04/24 10:23 PM
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This is why we lose, smh.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 10:02 PM
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Well for one apparently people forget history and think for some reason black men were at the top with white men oppressing their women because patriarchy. When historically, it has been black men getting it worst out of anyone since the birth of this country. Lynchings, vagrancy laws, prison industrial complex, it is like our own community just ignores that part and how it is still happening, just in a different way. The new way black men are getting demonized in the community is through media …
/r/MensRights09/04/24 04:53 PM
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Well being a black, straight male that is educated, I definitely have been demonized for existing. I remember almost losing my job for turning down a flirty coworker. I was a respectful as I could be and thought it was over with, until I am getting called into the office with my boss and HR about me supposedly making her feel uncomfortable. If it wasn't for having tons of proof that I have never even interacted with her other than the times she would approach me, then I would have been out of a …
/r/MensRights09/04/24 04:44 PM
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Never. I did that once. Fuck that noise. During divorce judge didn’t give a single fuck about my account or anything. Don’t do it fellas, it’s just a losing situation.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 06:12 PM
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It was a trash movie for sure. But one thing I did noticed that was a hard truth was how they got their homes back. They played on the one vulnerability that many men have. The need for affection and love. That is why I don't think we will see a change, because all they have to do is say nice things in a way that makes us feel special and men kind of fold. And its mainly due to the lack of affection in men's daily lives. It definitely pushed a narrative, and did not try to hide it. That ending w…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 11:58 AM
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Reminds me of when Patrice O’Neal went in on a simp. But hey women will continue to keep those guys in their back pockets for as long as they can.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 02:01 PM
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I agree with you on 100%. I think a lot of guys still base everything they do on women, even if they don’t realize it. It is good to recognize what is going on and how real world examples of inequality can be used to avoid those pitfalls and work towards a solution. I like MRA because the ones who are really invested are looking at legislation and how there are very imbalanced and archaic laws still in place that need to be changed. I think with the guys opting out. I mean they are opting out of…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 12:00 PM
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Basically the actual "gem of men" out there are placeholders and scapegoats for the actions of the guys out here running amok. I would have no problem if those who complained actually spoke on the guy who did them dirty, not blame the men who had nothing to do with it and still go for the clown ass dudes. That is why those good men opting out of dating is such a problem. There is no fallback or safety net, and no one to keep subscribing to those dating apps and other sites that offer false hope.…
/r/MensRights23/03/24 12:50 PM
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To quote the late Patrice O'neal "Women can't be friends to men, because they don't know how to be friends to each other, they don't even like each other." Of course I am paraphrasing, but yeah, something along those lines. I learned a long long time ago that having true women friends is more of a liability than something that actually enhances my life. Of course I am generalizing out of laziness, but I noticed at least my true guys friends would actually check up on me if I was in a bad way. Wo…
/r/MensRights23/03/24 02:19 AM
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I am saving so I can "opt out" get myself some land in the mountains and just live and be at peace.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 10:11 PM
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I think modern dating culture will change when enough men truly buck the system and stop playing the game. There are enough men out there who know that the game is set up for them to lose, but play anyway (I was one of them). Also we don't look at a certain subset of guys that tend to uphold the lopsided dynamic of modern dating. The ones who subscribe to OF, the ones who are paying for attention from women. I think in a sense they have contributed more to the dynamic that people are willing to …
/r/MensRights18/03/24 02:13 PM
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So basically her love is conditional as to how well you are doing in life? She is always fielding her options, which means she is not truly invested in the marriage like you are. She is out for self and throwing a false accusation around just shows how dirty she is willing to fight to get what she wants. This is where you get your head in the chess game bro. That trust is broke, the scar is there. She overplayed her hand and is trying to backtrack, and is banking on you being goofy enough to ove…
/r/MensRights12/03/24 01:48 PM
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Plus it is on record. Even if nothing happens with it, that is always a negative mark. This is where OP has to look out for him and his kid's best interest. Because the wife clearly isn't. She is playing chess and dude doesn't realize he is even in a game.
/r/MensRights12/03/24 01:27 PM
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There is something more here. For her to do that and then fall for a coworker, this seems premeditated to a degree. I remember reading where this is a go to claim to get the ball rolling with things like divorce ro planning an affair. Either way, what she did was awful and not normal. I think she is setting herself up to monkey branch somewhere else and you are the sacrificial lamb. I say get your stuff in order, because the trust has been gone the moment she went there with the accusations. See…
/r/MensRights12/03/24 01:06 PM
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I have a kid and I rather have no company than bad company. Not saying you can’t meet people and what not. Just saying the way things are now a lot of guys are finding peace in their own solitude
/r/MensRights30/01/24 11:58 AM
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This. Men are realizing we don't need much to be happy. I already decided to get myself a few acres and live off my land and truly be at peace. So much I can do when I am not stressed out by having someone else with me.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 05:20 PM
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Or its women who are overweight who rely on size to feel anything through the fat rolls.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 06:37 PM
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I agree with this. What we are experiencing now is what happens when too many men have just allowed women to be that way in relationships. Patrice O'Neal spoke about this heavily in his Black Phillip show (which I think every guy needs to sit down and listen to). I think a lot of men have a hard time with enforcing boundaries when it comes to women. A lot of times it is because they don't want to lose out on potential sex or affection, so they let a lot of things slide. The problem is that those…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 04:07 PM
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What is wild is that the Barbie movie was blatant about how easy it is to get a guy to do what you want. Flash a smile, say some flirty things and its a wrap. Especially if the guy has never received attention like that before.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:56 PM
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Even if there is no evidence backing it and is complete bs. They will kill you. After all these years and countless cases of false accusations going on, why haven't we gotten a better handle on this? Like why is this still a thing that could easily be dispelled with all of modern technology? Its really fucked how you can lose everything and worse just because a woman is mad at you that day.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 02:17 PM
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I rejected someone, and before the end of the day there were rumors about me saying I was stalking the woman I rejected. I have also been sexually harassed several times. groped, ass pinched, kissed, etc. I've even had some women show up to my house unannounced a few times. Really anytime it was brought up it was brushed aside or made to no seem like a big deal. I realized that even if you mind your business, stay out of the way and do everything right, there is still a good chance that a woman …
/r/MensRights11/01/24 02:10 PM
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Yeah fam there is a lot to unpack there and for real the context matters. Like how is she poisoning him? Was he an addict before meeting her? Is your sister and addict? There are a lot of factors that can help put things into context.
/r/MensRights03/01/24 07:47 PM
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Only way it really works is if you have girls in your family that have your back. When I got older, a lot of girls stopped that shit because they knew my girl cousins will give them that work. Well poison is a different thing entirely. If you know she is poisoning her husband, I would definitely try to get some form of evidence. Don't just let that go unsaid. Def chop it up with the husband, I mean part of the problem we have with women abusers is that too many people are willing to protect them…
/r/MensRights03/01/24 06:08 PM
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I think that en masse men don't have the discipline to not partake into those vices. I have said for years that if enough men just decided to stop watching porn, subscribing to OF and following IG models then we would start to see a change. But lets be real there are too many guys who are unable for whatever reason to break the habit. We have to be willing to put our money where our mouth is. And really it takes men from all sides to work together. You have one side where guys are successful wit…
/r/MensRights02/01/24 08:20 PM
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I remember when I was really young, like 8 or so I had a girl bully. She was bigger than me and she used to give me the business. Slap me in the back, take my stuff, lie on me. Finally had a enough and punched her in the face. Promptly got my ass handed to me by the other kids and the teachers didn't care. I explained that she had been picking on me for a while and whenever I told no one seemed to care. At that age I realized the double standard and did my best to avoid them simply because I did…
/r/MensRights02/01/24 04:52 PM
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Nope. We are headed towards oblivion.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 01:21 PM
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For me it was my grandma. Really reinforced that I don't matter and am not allowed to have the things my cousins had. I remember graduating high school and saying to my mom "I love black women and root for them, but I don't think they love me back." Moms knew I was right and she couldn't bring herself to lie to me. Her and my sister have always been great. But can't say the same for the other black women I have encountered in my lifetime.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 07:48 PM
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Same about 2 years ago is when I got hipped to them, but didn't decide to get their books until recently. I was like wow these guys are truly educating me. It was also refreshing to hear scholars comparing notes and giving actual sources to research. The things they were saying were things I had been thinking for a very long time. i didn't realize my thoughts were so close to the truth of what is going on. It is kind of heartbreaking at how even with the sources, facts and truth staring you in t…
/r/MensRights08/12/23 05:36 PM
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Actually ordered them the other day. I have been listening to their stuff and they definitely are trying to guide the conversation in a productive and educated direction.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 04:57 PM
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This is what I have noticed. I also noticed that there is a loud minority in the space simply to complain and not offer solutions.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 04:52 PM
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Well minus all the lynching and torture that came with those accusations. Especially during Jim Crow. I think people don't want to acknowledge that part that blacks (especially black men) have definitely gotten the shit end of the stick in our country's history. I think having the discussions can help us to avoid repeating this shit again but with all men. I am black and have definitely gotten my ass kicked by society. I have learned to adapt the best way I can, but unfortunately you still have …
/r/MensRights07/12/23 09:47 PM
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As a black man I agree with this. Moms and sis have been cool to me, but for the most part black women haven't been the kindest. Like it feels like they do shit on purpose sometimes.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 09:35 PM
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There are some decent and educated men in the space. But sadly they are not as popular because they aren't about bashing, but actually focusing on the betterment of men. Having panels with actual scholars on instead of what a lot of manosphere places do by having low level guests on to prove their point.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 08:10 PM
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Don’t talk. Don’t discuss. Enjoy your time off. The talking will just infringe on it. What can you say now that already hasn’t been said? For here on you gotta let your actions do the talking for you.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 07:14 PM
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Stop with the talking. You gotta be proactive and just start doing. Take the time yourself. Set up a sitter or something if you need to and take a few days and get some sleep. If she don't like it then tough shit. You are shortening your life listening to her. Your wife should want you to be healthy and to be here for a long time. And the fact that she is ignoring the very things that would do that means she may not care as much as you tell yourself. So either continue talking to her and getting…
/r/MensRights05/12/23 06:14 PM
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Honestly he needs a little bit of a rough touch with this. He has to get his ass off his shoulders and stop letting his wife run him. He will only grow resentful and then his daughter will notice that Dad hates mom. He has to stand firm and keep standing firm regardless of her trying to manipulate him.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 06:11 PM
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Fuck the talking. She is crossing those boundaries because you let her. Man go get your rest and stop with the sit downs. It has become cyclical, and she knows that ultimately you won't stand firm. Gotta change the play homie. Can't expect her to respect your boundaries when you don't even respect them. and this one thing is a massive thing that has you losing sleep and raising your blood pressure. Not worth it bro.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 06:08 PM
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I was where you were man. It almost killed me. Ended up in the hospital for weeks because my body literally was shutting down from all the work, stress and lack of sleep. You have to take time for you bro. All your wife can do is be mad and get over it. But how can you even be there for your daughter if you work yourself into an early grave. Let her know what it is. If she doesn't like it then she can go. But you can't pour from an empty cup. The issue is that she probably has been trying you fo…
/r/MensRights05/12/23 06:05 PM
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Sounds pretty par for the course sadly. I have gone to therapy, both couples and solo. Honestly both felt like everything was my fault and it just became more about how I could make her feel better, regardless of my own concerns. Basically its all a racket to make money and keep the status quo.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 03:23 PM
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We definitely do honestly, and the way Dr. T broke it down, makes it hard to deny. But regardless of that we are starting to see how they are starting to go after all men. This is when men all over have to stand firm and look out for each other.
/r/MensRights09/11/23 08:32 PM
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I know he comes from the perspective of a black male, but after listening to the entire interview there are a lot of things mentioned that I believe all men can relate to. He actually speaks on how the birth of the manosphere came to be and how basically what we are seeing now is men all over comparing notes with their experiences. Great interview.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 01:27 PM
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My sister and mom asked me the same thing. I said that they make it seem like guys are open about abusing women. They aren't just telling their friends about that side of them. They know if they did they most likely wouldn't have anymore friends. In my 37 years, two times I have heard guys talking crazy about women. And both times they seemed to get checked quite quickly. I remember a situation where my coworker was talking to me about his lady and all this shit he does (verbally abusive, cheats…
/r/MensRights13/10/23 05:07 PM
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I'm a black male and I can personally say that I've seen white guys get shit on in the work place so the company can fill the quota. I have been shot on more times than I can count when it comes to a job, and it is usually met with frustration if I try to discuss the wrongdoing. What u/MembershipWooden6160 said seems like it is happening on a global scale. The average men all over seem to be getting the blame, when they aren't the ones doing the oppressing. I think white guys are starting to get…
/r/MensRights02/10/23 12:14 PM
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Hey all. A few months back I got approached to interview for an article along with other guys. Its posted and if you guys want to give it a read, then please do. I think it was good to show actual stats and studies As well.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 11:37 AM
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To add to it, stop watching porn, following ig models and commenting on thirst traps. Really guys just have to be more selective on who or what receives their time, money and attention. The question is, are they disciplined enough in masse to actually follow through with it? Personally I don't think so.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 11:23 AM
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War Games approach. "The only way to win is not to play." MGTOW definitely got it right. They saw what it was and decided not to take part and do their own thing. I wish more guys would adopt that mindset, instead of worrying about how society views men. Plus like you said, a lot find peace and learn themselves through that. It already is causing the other side to try and tear it down. Its weird because deep down they know the MGTOW guys are just not participating, but the other side wants them …
/r/MensRights29/09/23 11:20 AM
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I’m serious bro. Like have dudes going through simp withdrawal, showing them how much more their lives improve when they don’t simp. They have more money, time and peace. I think it would be really good for them. Also have training scenarios where fine women actors attempt to get him to simp, but he uses the techniques from simp rehab to deflect her attempts. When he has finally able to not simp for his long time crush who has him banished to the friend zone, then he will be ready to assimilate …
/r/MensRights27/09/23 07:29 PM
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I always say follow the money and you will find the truth. This is a good example of why things are happening the way they are.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 05:08 PM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:10 PM
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Maybe. But I definitely have been in situations where it most certainly was about race.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:08 PM
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Honestly a lot posted here really falls under just things men go through. More like an online support group. If this was posted in ask, or ask men, then there is a good chance it will get taken down. I had a post asking guys who opted out of relationships and dating why. It seemed like a good discussion, but got too much traction and taken down because it was considered ranting. So this is kind of the safest place for guys to discuss certain things.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:34 PM
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How old are your buddies? They must be young. But agreed grabbing a beer and having laughs, yes. Not so much the fart knocker term (haven't heard that since middle school lol). But the sentiment is true. Us dudes can joke with each other on the dumbest shit, grab a beer and wings and be cool. Oh and we don't have to worry about paying for each other unless we want to.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:24 PM
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No. None of the female friends I've had in my life would check on me when my dad died, let alone help me skip town if I needed to. My boys, made sure I was good. Checked on me, etc. And the same goes for them. They know if they need anything, I am on my way. They are my brethren. The only time my friendships with women seemed deep is when they wanted something. Usually in the form of someone to listen to them complain about whatever self inflicted drama they had going on at the moment. I think m…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:21 PM
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Love Dorsey hit the nail on the head with this. She really just said it for what it is. I am happy more women are calling out the bs, especially with the narrative that is being pushed.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 12:42 PM
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So wild bro. They are backwards af.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 11:23 AM
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What is wild is that it really is about wearing what you like, and what is comfortable. I reduced my gold accessories to just one small chain. But I feel you bro. Literally cant exist and have a certain aesthetic without being perceived as a threat.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:51 AM
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So this is what I mean about how simping has gotten out of control. This is like the final level of simping imo. Men like this need help. Like I wish there was a simp rehab center, that could help men stop doing this and when they are better they can be released back in society. But seeing this is wild to me, and the term paypig is even more wild (first time hearing that term today). Iirc there was a video about financial domination or whatever. And one woman admitted she was starting to feel we…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 07:02 PM
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I don't even trip on it. I view it as a them problem. It is quite arrogant to think you are just so precious that every man you pass is thinking of taking you. Get over yourself. What is wild though is that it is the women I have probably felt the most racism from. If a guy has been racist to me, it was at a very safe distance. A good example is I work at a very blue collar place in NC. I am from the Midwest and am not used to how the south is. I have a lesbian co worker, who on two separate occ…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 06:52 PM
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You tall af bro. I’m a 5’10 ice cube doppelgänger lol. But I have the blank face on whenever I’m out. But the black doesn’t help either. For some reason they automatically think I’m in a gang or something.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:33 PM
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I used to. But then kinda took to not even acknowledging people other than them being in my space. Not gonna go out of my way to make strangers feel comfortable with my existence.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:26 PM
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Lol. One summer I was wearing black Toms and black joggers. Someone said I had that Yujiro fit on lol. But yeah. I remember going on a date and she said you look very capable, but you’re a teddy bear lol.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:24 PM
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It is only a matter of time until it is just being a straight male is enough to label you defective. As a black guy, I definitely see that they are trying to make white men as the big bad, but a lot of rational men all over are seeing that is horse shit. That narrative won't stick. I have been of a few dates with some of these self proclaimed feminists, and they seem to be the main ones pushing race. Some even tried to tell me what it means to be a black man in America. Like wtf is even that? I …
/r/MensRights26/09/23 04:49 PM
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I am a big black guy who wears all black most of the time. I don't have to really do anything. They avoid me on their own.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 04:21 PM
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I read up to "I'm a 16 year old guy". Man drop her and keep it moving. Make sure you keep records of all communications. But yeah bro go ahead and charge her to the game. This is too much for a 30 year old, let along a 16 year old.
/r/MensRights25/09/23 06:33 PM
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This comment below was posted in an old thread about men having it hard and not opening up more. Iirc I think it was a woman who made this comment. But I think this was probably the most on point comment I have ever read: "You think you're ready. You're not ready. You're ready for a few manly tears, like Grey Worm admitting he was afraid to lose Missandei. You're not ready for ugly-crying, lying in the fetal position and rocking, going to pieces, being unable to function. You're not ready for ho…
/r/MensRights21/09/23 12:56 PM
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- That rejection and disappointment is a part of a man's daily existence. - No one cares about our problems. Only if the problems interfere with our ability to provide. - That the goal posts are constantly moving. So like for us usually means that we have to play 5D chess with people who are playing checkers just to get through the day. - That you can have your entire life ruined just because of a false allegation. - Being told to open up more, and when you do you are demonized for it.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 12:52 PM
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But look at the type of men that are in a position of power. When you strip away things like status, power or wealth what do they have? On a nature level they would be food. It is clear that the men in power don't care about anyone else but retaining such power for them and their friends. They understand the way things work, and have been for a long time. Its a lot easier to keep the masses fighting against each other, because if they were to unite and see what is really going on then they know …
/r/MensRights21/09/23 12:09 PM
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Agreed. And to take it a step further, its more so the idea of being rich or having money is enough to get their attention. The height and size is what puts you in the "fun time" category.
/r/MensRights18/09/23 07:58 PM
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As a black man I definitely have noticed how media is demonizing straight white men for all the worlds problems. But ultimately when you look within the groups they are demonizing straight men in general. The race becomes irrelevant pretty fast when ultimately the ones pushing the narrative want to punish all men. I have noticed that this has made men from all backgrounds come together more. Even I challenge that narrative because what I have seen is that the few guys at the top who have been "o…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 12:43 PM
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People like that are always going to think what they think. Sometimes it is good to let people be loud and wrong. Some goofy girl who doesn't at least want to do herself the service of learning about something so she can then hate it properly really isn't worth your time bro.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 05:32 PM
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Divorce first and then let share the evidence. Make sure you are protected first. Don't let her know you know either. Time to play some chess bro. Edit: Timing is everything with this bro. So do not overplay your hand. Do not let your emotions cause you to play yourself and give her a chance to tailor her story or whatever. Be smart, be meticulous and remove emotions from this until after everything is done. I have seen too many guys jump the gun with evidence and it ends up turning around and b…
/r/MensRights13/09/23 12:52 PM
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I had that shit happen to me before. I definitely dropped the attraction level down a bit. I get the whole wanting to do your due diligence. I am all for it. I don't like being looked at like I'm a serial killer. And then for her and her friends to go spy on me (several people I don't know) "just to be 100% sure" is some goofy shit. It wasn't a joke, and that lets me know she is operating out of fear, which is already a loss before it gets started. I remember expressing how It was offensive, the…
/r/MensRights11/09/23 05:12 AM
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Yeah it definitely is working. I find it amazing that a whole group of people are being manipulated in real time. I feel like we are in an episode of Black Mirror.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 01:09 PM
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I second the gym and martial arts. I am a Judoka, and it is so ingrained in my life now that I can't even remember a time before it for real. But when my marriage ended, I found that the gym became my sanctuary. Improving my mind also improved my body. I know it sounds cliche and all that. But for real taking care of your mental and physical health works wonders. I am sorry that happened to you. But look at it like your future ex wife has freed you from that awful relationship. Now you can go an…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 08:03 PM
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It is weird. Because when i was in college the majority of my friends were poc. My best friend was Cambodian and there were a few who were Vietnamese, Korean and Japanese. They were always nice and engaging. I remember when we all went out for dinner together because the Korean's cousins were visiting the school. The thing I noticed instantly was that the cousins didn't really acknowledge my friends from SE Asia. It was weird to me. But afterwards one of my friends said its the younger generatio…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 02:23 PM
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It is similar to the black wall street towns in the 1920s. Blacks went and tried to build something to support themselves and thrive, and were promptly destroyed for it. Murdered, pillaged and finally the towns were burned down. The difference with this is they are blocking the facilities for men from ever getting built. I think just from the infographic shown, if the shelters were built they would simply be destroyed. But they won't do it themselves. They will get those simp ass white knights t…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 12:35 PM
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I was just talking to a friend about this. A Japanese girl I know really was into black men. But her parents pretty much said either marry an Asian (but not SE Asian) or white. It is wild how honest they get about their biases when it comes to affecting their potential lifestyle.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 12:22 PM
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Basically you should take the War Games approach. The only way to win is not to play. The dating game is just that, a game. The benefits tilt heavily in women's favor, due to the reasons you mentioned. The only way to win at the dating game is to not play it. Focus on your purpose and focus on enjoying life. Once you do that is when women start showing interest. The last person I was in the early stages of dating claimed to be a hardcore feminist, but still wanted all the benefits of dating. She…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 12:03 PM
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Because with men there is an underlying level of violence if someone gets too disrespectful. So men tend to tread carefully. On top of the fact that men ultimately understand there is something greater than them that is more important. If we spent so much time hating each other without even knowing each other, then we would never get anything done. There is a reason why those housewives shows are so popular. It is just women tearing down other women.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 08:24 PM
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I agree. They definitely were trying to make it seem like she was victim blaming. But I think they just don't like that she is saying that people are responsible for their actions. Both men and women.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 05:09 PM
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You can't tell a simp that though. As much as I hate to admit it. The Barbie movie was right about how easy men can be. But on a deeper thought, I think the Kens represented simps in a way. A woman knows that to keep a simp interested, all she needs to do is show a hint of affection or that he has a hint of a chance and all his resolve crumbles. To the non simps out there who see this, you know exactly what I am talking about. I think we need to be anti simp, the same way we are anti racist and …
/r/MensRights28/08/23 08:06 PM
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What is wild is that I have seen clips where women are borrowing their friend's husbands or asking to borrow husbands for things done around the house. I agree that we have to stop helping those who aren't in our immediate family.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 07:49 PM
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Agreed. Simps are rogue agents and reall mess up the game all around. But women ultimately know that they have simps that are ready and willing to simp for them when times get a bit tough. Listen to Patrice O'neal's Black Philip show. Especially the last few episodes where Jeff was on. Since it is older, we didn't have the term simp for real. I think all men should listen to those 12 episodes and for real take notes. But yeah simps are the absolute worse. They are like the parents that let their…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 07:14 PM
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As much as I want to disagree I know you are right.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 12:37 AM
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The main character is annoying though. Like pretty much the last man is a fuck up. So it balances out I guess? Where as a more masculine example may have been too much.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 09:08 PM
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So basically bringing them back to the societal friendzone. Basically when you are friendzoned and you end up getting someone else, but she all of a sudden has feelings for you and wants you back. But she only wants you back for the service you provide. Not because she genuinely cares. Sadly I think you are right. I mean if anything the barbie movie did show how easy men can be. It would take a lot of discipline to be able to resist that. Especially if you're already deprived of it.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 08:21 PM
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I definitely feel where you are coming from. It is used as a distraction, hence why I don't watch nearly as much as I used to. I think a lot of people or society has gotten soft. We don't challenge ourselves anymore. And we really don't challenge our thinking or our actions. So now we have a ton of people just consuming any and everything without filtering out the mess. I don't think there is anything wrong with R&R, but like you said it should add value. For me R&R right now taking care of my m…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 04:12 PM
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Hey I will always be into fiction. I am a nerd at my core, so there is nothing wrong with ready a good story. I read this years ago when it first came out and always thought it kinda weird. I went back and read it again and started to understand some parts of it. Nothing wrong with a good fiction story. We have enough of reality as it is. As far as reading how shit works, my background is investigative Journalism, so I understand how to find out the answers to the questions I may have. But I agr…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 03:31 PM
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Yeah I hated how the guy was pretty much a fuck up to both men and women. Like of all the dudes, they get this guy. If it were a guy that wasn't such a tool it definitely would have probably been too good lol.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 03:03 PM
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I have no idea what that means, but the world isn't obligated to love you. But if you can't love yourself, then there will never be any hope. I mean if you are fine like this, then more power to you. But you sound miserable, and it sounds like you are keeping yourself in this position. But I wish you luck bro. At the very least learn to love yourself.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:41 PM
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But why are you neglecting yourself? How can you hope for anyone to care about you, if you don't even care about yourself. But remember after a time you stop being a victim and start being a volunteer.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:19 PM
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Bro get out of that relationship. What is the point if you feel like that? This is part of why things are fucked for men. You gotta decide what you want in your life. If you want this type of mess, then carry on. If not, you need to go ahead and bounce. No person is worth putting up with that.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:17 PM
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When has marching really made a difference for real? The movement is already happening. But it is happening in the way that people will take notice. We are protesting with our money, time and attention. The more guys who reject the thirst traps, porn and all the other things out there designed to keep us weak, then the more we will start to see a change. Unfortunately the men making all the decisions and fucking things up for everyone aren't a representative of men all over. Most men aren't oppr…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 01:00 PM
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Well when welfare was introduced, the belief was that it would die a natural death. I mean from 1935 to now, the quality of living got exponentially better. But what ended up happening is that they didn't expect for enough women to choose the support of the government over their own spouse. Ronald Reagan hit em with the "Welfare Queen" and I think it gave more people the idea to fleece the system even more. “There’s a woman in Chicago. She has 80 names, 30 addressees, 12 Social Security cards an…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 12:50 PM
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Lol. I know a few women with lazy girl jobs who make stupid money, but barely do shit. I've been on dates with a few, and almost all of them would just brag about how they make great money but barely do any work. While I am sitting here working 60+ hour work week and still don't make as much, smh. The more I learn about all this the more I look forward to when I go off grid.
/r/MensRights18/08/23 03:44 PM
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This is why the Australia and the UK are mad goofy. They stay tossin bias and unrelated factors into a softer punishment. See in situation like this I blame the system for allowing her back on the streets. What will end up happening is that people who enabled her terrible decision making will be held responsible as well. A man is dead and they are worried about her stress levels. The system is a joke.
/r/MensRights18/08/23 03:34 PM
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Yeah pretty much. It feels like you’re auditioning it something. It’s just a mess now. I understand why so many guys just dipped. Also do even get me started on workplace sexual harassment I would experience.
/r/MensRights18/08/23 01:50 AM
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There was an interview with women asking "do you care about if the man is enjoying the date or not?" and ever single one of them said that they don't care. They said it was all about how the woman feels about the date. I have said the same thing to women I know. Just ask men if you want the answer. Some of the things I have heard women tell other women about men is so far outside the realm of reality that it is quite scary. But everything I hear is stuff that women say they want men to want. Men…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:04 PM
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That is a great thing. You have an understanding and don't run from that understanding. I am happy you both have each other. And you are right. It is incredibly hard to find someone who can empathize with you.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:50 PM
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Agreed. I have met women who claim to "not like other people" and are homebodies, reclusive, etc. When they meet me who really is a homebody and doesn't like people, the see they aren't built for that type of life. It is nice to see that there are women who don't fall for the bs. I hope you and your man have many many wonderful, happy years together.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:09 PM
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Being alone doesn't automatically make you lonely. I used to want a partner, but the things I gained by being single made me realize I don't want to disrupt the peace I have acquired while being alone. - Save more money since I am only buying for me - More freedom to do what I want without having to compromise - Can freely travel without worrying about my partner's logistics - Am not obligated to do any emotional lifting for another person - Don't have to feel rushed when playing video games - G…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:35 PM
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This is the first time I have ever heard of those subs, but just taking a peek into them just made me not want to deal with women in a romantic sense ever again. There literally is no winning here. There is no hope for a good relationship or good woman. It is a wrap. Like holy shit those places are a hellscape.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:43 PM
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Unfortunately groups that are truly meant to bring people together for the greater good are the ones that seem to get attacked the most. Old MGTOW was interesting to me, and I liked the idea of just completely going your own way. There is nothing hateful in that. It is literally the War Games approach as a movement. Sadly we have extreme feminists, simps and white knights and followers who wouldn't stop until it was gone.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:35 PM
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Years ago I was at a club and someone kept grabbing my ass. Like she wouldn't stop. Then when I was walking away she walked up to me and "I'm going to rape you". This was a woman telling me she is going to rape me because she thought I looked so good. I just left the club after that. It really fucked with me.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:53 PM
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See I think this is a great idea. So when women want a girls night and just want to dance and party, then they can go to women only night club. Eliminates the unwanted approach from men, and you can enjoy time with your girls. I think women only and men only spaces are great ideas. I would love for there to be a men's only gym. The amount of women at my current gym that are clearly trying to get attention has only grown. So it would be nice to go to a gym where I don't have to worry about being …
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:51 PM
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It sounds like you don't want to be sexualized or viewed in that way by any man than isn't your man. So you make sure you protect your relationship by not allowing any other guy or girl to get the wrong idea about you. You are a good woman. It sounds like you are fiercely protective of your relationship and man.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:50 PM
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This is true. And that is exactly it. They are hoping to change him. If they get this guy who is clearly a winner over all the other women, she will feel she is above the other women. I worked with a beautiful woman who just stayed fucking around with this guy who had a gf. He would treat her like garbage (seen with my own eyes) and she would stay by him. She knew of his gf and all that, but it didn't keep her from sleeping with him and trying to get him to consider her as an option. I asked her…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:46 PM
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There really isn't a future for the dating market anymore. The ones who benefit will continue to benefit because there is no reason to not use it. The ones who have been shut out will stay shut out. The women who complain will continue to complain, while not changing anything about the type of men they go for. The guys who are shut out will either opt out completely and not play the game (the best way) or they will continue to simp and dump, time, money and resources into a dating market that do…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:31 PM
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They don't like sharing, but they share all the time. The women messing with the top 5% of men aren't that dense that they really believe the man doesn't have other women on the roster. Too many stories of women even admitting to knowing a guy has a woman, but he is successful, so they are willing to share that man for his resources. On the back end, they definitely are doing a lot of shit to get rid of the other woman though. But in the meantime they will share.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:16 PM
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Men have said it for ages, but we keep getting told what we are supposed to want from women. Pretty much on a basic level, men want a woman who is feminine, friendly, loyal, caring, loving, and won't seek affection and attention from other guys. As far as wanting a feminine woman, the best way I can explain it is; dating a masculine woman for men is like a woman dating an effeminate man. Some may like it, but the majority want a partner who fills in the gaps and can see the blind spots.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:37 AM
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I have no idea. I have been looking for his actual name. All I know is he is a Muslim man and the interview starts with the question "do you think men and women are the same?"
/r/MensRights16/08/23 03:49 PM
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I listened to this not too long ago. It starts at 5:20. Really good explanation imo. Never thought of it that way.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 03:44 PM
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I think what is needed to change how things are done and how men are viewed, is for us to stop feeding into the mess. I still believe if men could organize en masse and make a conscious decision to reject the things that are put in place to keep us weak (IG models, porn, OF, Friend Zone, dating sites, simping). Then we will start to see a change. I see posts on here and other places complaining about feminism and the double standards in society, but are still contributing to the same cycle that …
/r/MensRights16/08/23 01:44 PM
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It really does come down to men though. I understand what he is saying, granted he has been out of the dating world for decades, so he may have a dated approach. But I think the sentiment is the same. Men adapt to what women want in a guy. I mean when you break it down to a nature level, a woman wouldn't want a guy who doesn't seem like he can provide for himself or protect himself at the very least. But I think what is happening is the majority of men are stuck between the successful men enjoyi…
/r/MensRights14/08/23 03:50 PM
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We are in a cycle. There are young men getting in relationships without understanding anything about themselves or the world they are venturing into. So they hop on Reddit and other sites and ask questions like this, when the obvious is right in front of them. Men and women have been indoctrinated into this weird push/pull when it comes to relationships. But what I have been seeing in recent years is that there are a lot of solid good guys out there who want something meaningful. But it seems li…
/r/MensRights14/08/23 12:55 PM
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I think this kind of shock therapy is needed to wake these guys up. We all need to do our part in helping our fellow men get out of the foolishness.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 06:30 PM
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Exactly. I like how he flipped it and had the crowd chant as well. He got a wake up call really quick. Ol' girl looked really shitty at the situation.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 06:25 PM
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They get to those positions because they are placed there. There is a reason why they are in the positions they are in. Just look at how chaotic our society has become. Everything feels like a farce.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 06:08 PM
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I agree. I went to uni and trade school and picked up a unique skillset. When I did teach for a few years, I noticed how the boys were already set on not doing much in life. All they cared about was being a rich athlete or a rapper. I tried my best to teach them how the world wants them to stay ignorant. But they don't care. I mean its hard to compete with higher education when you can make six figures on social media for being completely obnoxious.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 06:05 PM
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I agree with you. I think we are really on the edge. I am unsure what 4th wave feminism will be, but yeah it is very clear that we are on the path to oblivion.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 05:54 PM
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Been a Journalist since 08'. I will say that I saw the writing on the wall for Journalism when the paper I was working for started going for sensationalism, instead of the truth. Striving for the truth will only get you black listed. I agree with what you said, but unfortunately the money that is in the media won't allow us to report the facts anymore.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 05:50 PM
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Agreed. You can tell she was not happy when he went and sat with the other woman (who was way better looking).
/r/MensRights11/08/23 05:22 PM
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This is an example of a woman breaking the social contract. I had a situation where a woman got in my face over our dogs getting into it. I was trying to deescalate the situation, but she was doing everything she could to make me nut up and look like the crazy man. Her husband was there, and really the issue was between me and him, but he let his wife fight his battle. So when she got right in my face, i looked straight to her husband and said "your wife is breaking the social contract. come and…
/r/MensRights11/08/23 05:21 PM
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I followed all of the rules I was supposed to growing up (good grades, internships, college, no record, etc). What I found is that even with all I learned through higher education, it is no guarantee that you will be successful. Another thing I learned is that the system is severely flawed and lopsided, and is not designed to really work as advertised. Even with my education and skillset, I really didn't apply any of it to life for real. I learned all these things, but still seemed to be a bit i…
/r/MensRights11/08/23 05:16 PM
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This was amazing. I think we all can appreciate this situation and what the comic did for homie. Hopefully this helps everyone's Friday be a bit funnier
/r/MensRights11/08/23 04:46 PM
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First off why bring a 6 year old to a bar, even if you own it/work there? that was already not a good look. Second off, I am almost certain the mom made something out of it. But I wouldn't have even taken a photo with a kid that isn't my own daughter or relative. Sadly she used a purely innocent moment and made it into something else. Basically it was a no win, because she was definitely going to find a reason. I am sorry that happened to you. It was a shitty thing, but I stand by that being a f…
/r/MensRights11/08/23 11:28 AM
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Honestly you just learn how to live within what you have. Pick up a few hustles and just keep moving forward. The last bit of stuff I have is in storage, And I pretty much live out of plastic tubs. Everything has gotten more expensive, so I will have to move when my lease is up because I simply can’t afford it. Unfortunately there isn’t a base answer to this. In my case I just try to save what I can and pick up extra gigs here and there and just try to get a better job in the meantime.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 05:43 PM
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This. If you misstep or overplay your hand, they will flip it on you. So make sure you have recordings and texts, because they will try to flip it.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 11:07 AM
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I have been exactly where you are. First keep records of everything that she says and does. Recordings are better. Having evidence is extremely important, one misstep and you can be the one getting crucified. I was in the same situation, but it was multiple coworkers grabbing me and groping me. And I hadn't even slept with any of them. When I reported it, it fell on deaf ears, and eventually I started getting looked at like I did something wrong. Good luck bro. I am sorry this is happening to yo…
/r/MensRights10/08/23 11:05 AM
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Well what is happening is that men are realizing that the dating dynamics are incredibly skewed. They are seeing there is no upside to forming a romantic relationship with women. Some have adapted to the dynamics and are playing the game well. Others have realized it is a no win game and have decided that it is better to live their lives how they want and not engage at all. I know a few guys who have opted out of relationships altogether and just go to a sw when they want some. They seem very ha…
/r/MensRights09/08/23 05:31 PM
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Simps plain and simple. I've said for the longest time, if it weren't for simps tricking off their time, attention and resources to these women for nothing has really messed up the game. They are the sneakiest ones in the whole space.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 11:48 AM
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You may want to limit how much man hating content you take in on a daily basis. But one thing I learned is that its is a lot of people being fake mad on the internet. Looking for reasons to be mad at something, so they join the fray. Goofy people online should never make you be scared to be a man. Take pride in yourself bro. In real life that energy just isn't there with me. Meaning, I don't have any woman trying to shame me for being a man, and seem to appreciate my masculinity. I've had a few …
/r/MensRights09/08/23 11:46 AM
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It would be nice if society were honest about how much they don't care about men. Currently it feels like society has friend zoned a good group of men, on top of telling them they aren't good enough and that anything they do is considered wrong. What I see with a lot of men opting out and just doing their own thing, is that now people are starting to notice and are pandering to men now. They do this in the form of topics looking at men issues, women content creators saying all the things that me…
/r/MensRights08/08/23 07:21 PM
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Exactly. They gotta keep their buildings well occupied. No need to change that now.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 01:58 AM
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As much as I would love for this to get passed on a national scale, I just don't see it happening. There is too much money to be made from turning a blind eye like they have for all this time.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 05:59 PM
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Just another moving of the goal posts. You can't win. I really hope more men take the War Games approach; "The only winning move is not to play."
/r/MensRights07/08/23 03:41 PM
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Ideally, I would say it is someone you trust to face the inevitable with. When you really think about the amount of trust that really goes into having a romantic partner, it is more than just trusting them to be faithful. For me to have a partner I would trust to that level, then I would have to trust that she is as fiercely protective of our relationship as I am. Which means not allowing any outside interference to disrupt the connection between us. I currently don't have a gf (haven't had one …
/r/MensRights07/08/23 02:00 PM
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I think it is a bit of that, but also you have to consider the amount of men opting our of marriage and dating altogether. There really isn't much of an upside to getting in an emotional romantic relationship these days, especially as a guy. Patrice O'neal posed the question to a female guest in his Black Phillip show "If men wisen up to the bs, then who will be stuck?" The woman said herself that women would be stuck.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 01:33 PM
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Nomad life is the way. I am a minimalist and have found that not having many things has made my life easier.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 01:10 PM
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Lol. This is so hilarious to me. Women are using this movie as a gauge for their bf? Yeah we have come full circle.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 11:45 AM
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We reject the attitude of just hating women. Compared to other sub Reddits, this has been a pretty good place to discuss issues with an open mind. And we definitely push back and reject the attitude of hating women.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 11:11 AM
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For sure.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 04:07 AM
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It will be posted on The Free Press website.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 04:06 AM
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Phone conversation.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 02:58 AM
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She asked me if I knew of anyone else willing to talk to her. I’ll let her know you and others are willing to talk.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 02:56 AM
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Damn. I felt that
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:50 PM
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Right. I definitely flipped it from an interview to just a candid conversation. I had to see where her heart was at as well. P.s. I want to reply to this properly but I’m about to go into the net ninja turtles movie.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:25 PM
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For sure
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:23 PM
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Of course. Gotta record for my own sake
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:43 PM
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I mentioned this as well. My peace and solitude is pleasant. Do I really want to disrupt that?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:31 PM
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A good journalist will be fair in what they report and will be unbiased. Before the interview i definitely talked about that because I am in journalism. And have been for almost 15 years. So though I can’t just edit and edit my ad before they post. I did my best to vet her before the interview. Luckily having experience in this with setting up my own interviews over the years let’s me know what to look out for.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:30 PM
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Most likely it will be like that but can’t give up. Gotta spread the truth always.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:24 PM
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I said the same thing. It’s not anything that hasn’t been said for years. I also mentioned how her comment about incels shows she needs to do actual research into what men’s rights activism is about and she will find that most of the men a part of it aren’t like that and reject that whole attitude. I mentioned how there is a rise in women wanting to all of a sudden care about what is happening to men within the system. But I also mentioned that so many see the Trojan horse for what it is. But be…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:23 PM
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Before I accepted the interview, I did a ton of research on her and her career. She is legit and is a journalist. Here questions were pretty to the point. Like I said earlier, when I reached out to her and told her about my journalism background and that I need to still protect my identity because I am still active, she was really cool with that. But yeah I just want to spread awareness however I can.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 08:11 PM
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The article hasn't been posted yet. But I will as soon as it is. I just interviewed with her about a couple hours ago.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 07:29 PM
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Exactly. The interviewer came up with the same conclusion. There is no incentive for women to stop being extra, and there is no upside for guys to get involved in a romantic relationship. I think in the interview I break it down to how media, social media, education, legislation and dating app companies are all using single, lonely men for their gain while condemning them at the same time. Guys are like "what is the point to any of this, if I am going to lose anyway?" They rightfully want to avo…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 07:28 PM
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Of course. Luckily I am a fellow journalist and know how this game goes. I definitely did my due diligence and made sure whatever I said I can stand on. There is always a bit of sensationalism with interviews. I can tell when I told her I still work for newspapers and am an editor, she definitely came correct. We set up a second interview next week, so I am going to do some more research, and I am also going to put my interviewer hat on as well. But yeah, I know how this goes.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 07:14 PM
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I think they deep down even knew it was silly. That’s why it didn’t stick. Because they know if it came to that it would not go well for them.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:02 AM
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Agreed. I was late to KS and RT, but got wind of them both about 9 months before KS' passing. They were really about calling out bs on both sides, but people seemed to only focus on what is being said about women, smh.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 06:07 PM
3

You should always seek solitude. I like to take trips to the mountains or ocean to reset. But I do it because I genuinely like solitude, not because of how things are now.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:36 PM
1

Eh. The way I view this feminists movement now is like watching a kid who thinks they learned everything from me, but don't realize I only taught them everything they know, not everything I know. You have to stop caring so much about what people who don't care about you think. I realized this is what they do to feel powerful. I think deep down in their core, the ones are only acting this way because they haven't been checked by someone they admire. But that is for them to figure out. I honestly …
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:23 PM
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Okay this is about to be a long one, so I apologize in advance. What I have learned in my 37 years of living is that there is a need to shift blame to someone. I don't say it is all women or feminists who feel this way, but I will say from my own personal relationships with women (romantic, platonic, professional) there seems to be the constant theme of "not my fault". The thing that the women who speak this mess have to understand is that they can only speak on the men they have dealt with in l…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 12:52 PM
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I moved to Charlotte, NC from a small town in Indiana. I can say that the racism I've experienced in the midwest vs the south is completely different. Up north they pretty much let you know they don'w like black people in weird passive aggressive ways as well as using weird micro aggressions. It wouldn't be overtly racist, but more racial. Like I couldn't tell if they were having a bad day or for real racist. In the south, it is different. There are definitely towns I have driven through or had …
/r/MensRights02/08/23 11:21 AM
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On another note. As a black man, I have noticed white female liberals will try to tell me why I’m oppressed. Why my white best friend (whom I consider my brother) is evil and a part of the patriarchy. I’m like “yo it’s time to shut the fuck up with that bs.” I’ve seen what man’s has gone through and I don’t see any oppression from him. If anything he is getting the dog shit kicked out of him by life. I don’t feel oppressed when talking shop with my white mechanic who has been extremely fair thro…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 10:06 PM
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Black bros like myself and others are rejecting that whole narrative. We are all men and we are all in this shit together. Because it will only be a matter of time when they add another sub group of men into the blender. So I def talk my shit to women who try to pull that white men evil narrative. This is the work of weak people trying to control the masses, plain and simple. They are dividing us or at least trying to. But from just what I see In here men and women all over are pushing back and …
/r/MensRights01/08/23 08:57 PM
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This wouldn't be what I would be concerned about as far as culling the male population. They are already trying more "practical" ways to get rid of us, and already other women are pushing back. Ultimately if they tried to bend a corner on the male population, I don't think they realize how tragic of an error in judgement that would be. This is just wishful thinking on their end. Actually go read Y: The Last Man if you haven't read it. It feels oddly accurate for what would happen if all men were…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 08:12 PM
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You're exactly right. We are able to watch how other women are coming for their own that lets us know that this is disingenuous and they are vying for superiority and not equality. But it will really take the women calling each other out and rejecting it on a grassroots level. Social media has become a cancer, but the real change begins at home. So women holding their friends and family accountable. Also I think some women are getting hip and switching up their content to appeal to men, but don'…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 07:22 PM
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The way to conquer a people is to kill off their warrior class. The warrior class is men. But they can't just run up and shoot us and kill us off. They still need us to run the infrastructure of society. You can actually see it done with the American Slave trade and Jim Crow era. They destroyed the men by lynchings, drugs, poor education, incarceration. They introduced welfare and pretty much gave money but only if men weren't there. They started promoting black women in the workforce, them gett…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:49 PM
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Weak men.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:39 PM
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Agreed. Even my mom is seeing it and said they are trying to destroy masculine men. So seeing men from all over reject the narrative of no accountability is a beautiful thing. Stuff like that ad is just silly and doesn't make any sense. When I go to the gym, I noticed an increase in teen males working out together. It makes me happy to see, because I see these kids supporting each other and building friendships and also helping each other become better. The thing with the silly stuff we are seei…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:38 PM
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It is wild to see a whole group of people get manipulated in real time into rejecting the very people that want there to be a better future for all. Basically some of these feminists would rather destroy the world than acknowledge that things have gone too far and accept accountability for their role in keeping the cycle going and pushing us to this moment.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:33 PM
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I am a black Independent, but lean more conservative, and from what I can tell is that they need someone to blame. Don't get me wrong, when we look at the history of the US, it wasn't looking too good. But we have come a long way since lynchings and burning down whole ass towns. For real it is a divisive too and just doesn't want anyone to unite and work towards a better future. When Bill Burr was on SNL he talked about that and how the white women who were enjoying the benefits are now want to …
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:22 PM
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As a black man, what did I just read? Honestly I am happy that men of all races and backgrounds are waking up to this horseshit. For real this is just divisive, and trying to keep men from truly supporting each other. For real watching this is like watching kids try to run the world because they think they know how. They have no clue about the inner workings of society. This is the equivalent to a kid running for president and saying "If I become president, then there will be recess all day and …
/r/MensRights01/08/23 06:08 PM
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I think men have already realized this, hence the drop in men actively dating or in relationships. Sadly we were conditioned to believe that no matter what, we must deal with it, no matter how unreasonable or ridiculous it is. We have to live our own lives and do what brings us joy. I am happy to see men all over waking up to this, and are actively pursuing their own happiness. Even now I kind of date, but have realized that I am happier living my life on my own terms. So I have no problem with …
/r/MensRights01/08/23 12:11 PM
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This is true. Which is all the more reason to leave them to their own demise. I definitely get it. I have a few feminists that I work with, and it takes everything not to son them with logic and facts, but I realize they simply don't care.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 04:39 PM
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I mean. You don't? What is the gain of arguing with people who don't have an open mind and don't care to learn? We are in the era of adapt or die. Those not wanting to learn and better themselves and society are lost and we can't save them. So if Jesus can't save those people, what makes you think you can? Leave em to their delusions, take that fire and apply it to being the change you want to see. Those people are lost, but there are a lot of people out there who could benefit from your underst…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 04:10 PM
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Yeah, fuck the system and fuck her. Sick of this shit.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 12:15 PM
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Bout to watch right now. Edit: What in the world was that? She barely did any work. Just got coffee and dicked around the office and took a few meetings. Yeah this is goofy. And here I am working 75+ hours a week and still unable to save? Did everything I was supposed to do (follow the law, get a degree, get internships, be respectful, etc) and at 37, I have only been in my professional career about 2 years. Talk about feeling a way.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 07:58 PM
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What is wild is that they aren’t applying any sort of logic or reasoning to why they think the way they do. We appreciate the allies and I know being called a pick me sucks. But the main women saying that shit are lonely and miserable. People gotta quit being afraid to tell people who need to shut up to shut up. I appreciate you calling out the bs. We need more like you.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 04:59 PM
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Exactly. The more that push back on this will eventually get a change. The only reason why it has gone on like that is because people don't want to deal with the name calling and ostracizing. We have already crossed the path of no return. I personally think we are far too gone as a society at this point. The only thing that has not sent us into oblivion is that they have not found a way to overcome the physicality of men. Once they figure out how to best the physical aspect of men, then it will …
/r/MensRights25/07/23 03:16 PM
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Men reach out in a different way. We do care about our friends, and show it in the form of just hanging out. Grabbing food or a drink, watching the game or gaming together. But at the same time guys will call out their friends for bs, in group or now. Well assuming the guy really considers him a friend. At the same time since men can go long periods being alone or not talking to anyone, I think we have a tendency to get too comfortable in the silence and dont realize that it is good to connect w…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 02:25 PM
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On a different side of my other comment, I also think men need to start really becoming more anti simp. I have seen how women have gotten to some of their conclusions. You have goofy guys out there complaining about how women only care about getting money for being pretty, but they also subscribe to OF and trick out money just because. I look at those goofballs the same way I look at a juvenile delinquent who grew up into a criminal. Letting these guys go unchecked has really messed things up al…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 02:19 PM
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Me and my sister talked about this actually. I made the comment that women can't truly be friends with men because they can't even be friends to themselves. My sister and mom said that men can be hard on each other, to which I said not nearly as hard as the world is to them. I am honest to my friends because I care about them too much to let them go out into the world gang goofy. Sadly women will let their friends make bad decisions and then even encourage it. I remember seeing a woman I worked …
/r/MensRights25/07/23 02:04 PM
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The best way is to start holding their peers accountable. Not silently saying they don't agree, but being outwardly against that behavior. Unfortunately that will require them to speak out towards people they may be close to. Kind of like how people started losing friends and family when they actively became anti racist and holding people with racists views accountable. So on an individual level, you gotta start calling out the women who are perpetuating the cycle and are making it about dominan…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 01:32 PM
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These days it is more about finding something to be mad about. I mean wasn't there something about a blind guy being kicked out of a gym because a woman thought he was creepy. I mean the man was blind, but it didn't even matter. Dave Chapelle talked about how this would eventually backfire because they had some women go and take it to the next next next level. I have been called creepy at a job because I didn't talk for real. They just made up stuff about me without asking any questions or takin…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 11:46 AM
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I don't know if it is because of affirmative action, but I will say in my field, every woman I have met who did what I did made way more. Actually went on a date with someone who has the same title as I do but at a different company. Makes 3x what I make, and it seems that this has been something I have noticed since I entered the professional workforce. I can't say it is because of affirmative action. I like to think that they have the better skills for the job. The only thing that really made …
/r/MensRights25/07/23 11:28 AM
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I've been labeled a creep for being quiet and doing my job. I worked in a department store with a lot of women, and noticed that they did more talking than working. I made a point to keep everything professional and work related. One day I went in to work on my day off to get a new shirt and pants. Apparently I look like a different person when I am not at work, and one of the girls I worked with was trying to flirt with me. I said "you know we work together right?" and when I took my hat off, s…
/r/MensRights21/07/23 06:17 PM
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This is true. I think an identifier I do see is how the men who are a part of LBGTQ+ community seem to be exempt from being labeled incels. So maybe the identifier is simply being a heterosexual male? Idk, all of this stuff is weird and seeing this destruction of men be normalized is even more fearsome.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 04:18 PM
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Patrice O'neal said a long time ago that if women find a way to take men's physicality away, it will be a wrap. They will never give that power up. We are getting close. Like scary close.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:51 PM
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well aren't the terms like "incel" used as identifiers? I mean it isn't a symbol, but it is tossed around a lot to identify a certain type of man.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:48 PM
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See they are new equality, we are default equality. They aren't used to the reality of no one cares yet.
/r/MensRights20/07/23 04:16 PM
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She is hustling you fam, keep it pushin.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 02:52 PM
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Been groped, pinched kissed, all types of stuff. Just was told to take it like a man. Then people wonder why I am a recluse.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 03:31 PM
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I hate you dealt with this, but this is why you never dip your pen in the company ink. It is not worth the potential trouble it could bring. Focus on your career and living a good life. Keep your head down and date women who don't work in the office with you.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:41 PM
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I mean okay? It's not like he was having a shortage of intimate partners coming his way. I don't get how this is news or having anything to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 11:53 AM
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Monk mode is great isn't it? When I decided to go down that path, it was hard at first, especially giving up the little bit I could get lol. But now looking back, I am so happy I went monk mode. Have you achieved levitation yet? I am at 2.5 years with no sex and definitely feel more aware and in tune to the world. Its like exactly what all these anime protagonists have been about.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:11 PM
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It goes back to the saying "the guys doing the most dirt have it easy. But the guys doing good get it so hard" We all knew these groups would spiral out of control. Some if not most probably leave out vital information about a date, or straight up lie. It is unfortunate that this is happening, but it really is up to women who don't agree to hold those women pushing this mess accountable for being disingenuous. We are right on the edge of no return with this. It sucks because there a lot of solid…
/r/MensRights12/06/23 02:16 PM
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Yes. I find myself fighting falling into a deeper depression, but I try to think about the people in my life and don't want to bog them down. Some days are better than others, but I can feel the depression there like some sort of low hanging black cloud. Add on that I have no social circle or friends and my gf is 1.5 hours away, it can get really bad.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 12:04 PM
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I am doing quite well. Lost 5lbs this week, going to the beach with my gf tomorrow. I like to think my mental health has been quite good lately. I hope all of my brethren are doing well also.
/r/MensRights02/06/23 06:42 PM
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Scrutinize as in listen to their points and if they are genuinely about bringing awareness or are they serving a different purpose. Kind of like those male feminists who don't believe in the views, but they go along because they think they may get laid. Knowing a woman's OF isn't hard when she is actively telling you what it is. and I definitely don't want to argue with women and don't plan to. I am just looking at what is going on, and it is a mess on both ends. You got guys who are upset about…
/r/MensRights02/06/23 05:03 PM
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Well there has been a influx of women "allies" coming into male right spaces in the frame of support, but if you look at it with a little scrutiny, it is sometimes revealed that they have ulterior motives and are giving their support because it is beneficial. Not saying that all women allies are snakes, just that there are some in the spaces for their own gain going unchecked. Once guys stop giving away their time and attention away frivolously, then we are going to continue to have this issue. …
/r/MensRights02/06/23 02:12 PM
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When the inmates find out what she did to her child, it will be a hell of a life for her. To quote Rust Cole in True Detective - "You may as well go ahead and kill yourself" (iykyk). Harm to kids is such a no no that when she goes, they will make sure that each day will be hell for her. The ones who commit crimes like these usually get their asses beat daily for the entirety of their sentence. The courts failed the kid and the family.
/r/MensRights31/05/23 01:10 PM
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Pretty much. It is way cheaper to hire a cleaning lady, cook for yourself and hire a pro when you need physical intimacy. A lot of guys are smartening up to this fact and are moving accordingly.
/r/MensRights26/05/23 06:29 PM
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Is there an issue with women being harassed in Scotland? My mom and sister both lived there for years and never mentioned problems from guys there. They said the people were amazing and very friendly and were eager to share their culture. The picture they painted was one that did not need women only times at parks.
/r/MensRights26/05/23 11:28 AM
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So essentially "Y: The Last Man". Not the show but the actual graphic novel.
/r/MensRights25/05/23 06:43 PM
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This is a very underrated comment. As someone who worked in a job where I was the only guy, it was pretty ridiculous how much in fighting there was. And it all was just unnecessary bs. On top of the infighting the amount of sexual harassment I got was insane. I got groped, sent unsolicited nudes, I even had a couple of women just show up at my house (it was a small town where everyone knew everyone). When I finally got a new job it was amazing to not have to deal with that. Working with all thos…
/r/MensRights23/05/23 11:53 AM
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Hey I have been a deadbeat since the divorce. Of course she got what she wanted out of it, but hey I'll be the deadbeat if that means I never have to see or hear from her ever again.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 06:41 PM
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Good men are good to those around them and society, but also don't tolerate people overstepping their boundaries. "Nice guys" are nice to a fault and have a hard time enforcing their boundaries. When a woman isn't into a nice guy. it is because ultimately she feels he will let anyone treat him however they want. Ultimately focus on being a good man, and being a positive contribution to society.
/r/MenSupportMen18/05/23 08:23 PM
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Sadly they won't work themselves out. I am in a similar situation. Pretty much one mess up away from being homeless (no partner to live with). In my case she didn't inform the courts that I had our daughter for a year (enrolled in school, living with me and everything). When the kid went back to her mom after the school year, I get notified I owe a ton of money in back child support. Spoke with an attorney and he flat out told me that it would be better to take it on the chin because I'll lose m…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 04:21 PM
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Talk to a lawyer and figure out what you are able to do legally. Don't do what the guy in Black Mirror did when something similar happened.
/r/MenSupportMen10/05/23 06:18 PM
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remember single women keep women single. Plus tell your gf to stop running and telling her friend when there is an argument. What we discuss isn't for everyone.
/r/MensRights08/05/23 12:50 PM
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Thank you fam. Mom is coming along and getting better. The date went extremely well, almost felt like the perfect date.
/r/MenSupportMen08/05/23 11:11 AM
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Things are going okay this week. Taking my mom to the doc for a checkup. I have a date tomorrow afternoon, so I am hoping it goes well. Have a great weekend bruvs.
/r/MenSupportMen05/05/23 04:22 PM
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That was a tough one.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 04:11 PM
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I think what is going on is you are having trouble finding your purpose. It would be good to take time for you. Not just in the form of going to the gym or something, but take time to actually learn more about yourself on a deeper level. If you make decent money, take some time to travel, do a road trip, catch a few live shows or whatever. But I think you are having issues with finding things that inspire you. So taking time to figure out what you do and don't want for yourself can go a long way…
/r/MenSupportMen17/04/23 11:55 AM
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Sadly the amount of support for men is very low and when people try to shine a light on those issues, they are called women haters or something else nasty. All we can do is continue moving forward and supporting each other. Honestly I was with someone like this. She is shit testing you and sounds like she harbors some resentment towards men. Honestly just ask her what the point of these conversations are because it seems like she just wants to pick a fight. Dealing with someone like that just re…
/r/MenSupportMen13/04/23 12:11 PM
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Well Frank Reynolds (Always Sunny) said it "If anything happened, we would just blame it on a black person. Those were the days." It has been a thing for a while. Hell even Atlanta touched on it in the final season. I really wish they would hold the ones giving false accusations accountable and have actual consequences. Instead of saying "whoops my bad."
/r/MensRights29/03/23 11:51 AM
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Doc just put me on antidepressants for the first time in my life. She said she was worried because she can see in my eyes that I'm not doing well. Thing is those things make me feel weird as hell. Seeing men who are genuinely happy, does make me smile because I wouldn't wish this shit on anyone.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 07:18 PM
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Man you know what you need to do. Keep a record of everything but otherwise stay away from her at all costs. I mean seriously don't go anywhere near her. Even in the circle of friends, just keep away. It sucks, but she already made a threat that will ruin you, so don't risk it and stay away. Seriously don't chance it at all. Get a new circle of friends.
/r/MensRights14/03/23 01:30 PM
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I learned the hard way that my one female friend really didn't care. She only cared when I could make her feel better. Actually every woman I've talked to about how I feel (including family) just end up telling me something not useful or telling how I should feel/think. Never actually listening. I now know that talking to a woman about your feelings, issues or whatever will just work against you. Even the woman therapist really wasn't much of a help. It was almost like she didn't want to hear wh…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:09 PM
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That's already at the safe house lol.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 04:42 PM
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So we are riding this wave til it crashes then. Good thing I got my surfboard
/r/MensRights06/02/23 11:33 AM
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I remember working as the sole male in a certain department. It was awful. They were always finding ways to argue or throw shade at each other. They would try to get me in the middle of it, when I would just say something like "this is work, if yall can't work together during our shifts then find a new job. I shouldn't have to deal with yalls inability to work together. So get it together or keep it moving". I was in a very bad place at the time, so my filter was non existent. Funny enough is th…
/r/MensRights02/02/23 04:50 PM
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Record everything so you have actual evidence. Take it to the administration and go from there. Somtimes you gotta go above the teacher to get things sorted.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 08:41 PM
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I was married once. It has been 7 years since she divorced me and I am just now to a point to where I can somewhat live a little. I don't see the upside of marriage for men. I did everything I was supposed to and more and still got screwed in the divorce. There is a possibility that you can find a woman who is a true gem and genuinely cares about you and growing with you. But I don't think it is worth the risk of getting married again.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 08:46 PM
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Yes I have, and I found that if I let it bother me then it just becomes more manipulation. Whenever that has happened in the past, I just activate my "Blank Face" mode. I had a woman try that shit, and when she saw that I was actually enjoying the time to myself and peace, she all of a sudden wants to say i am acting like an ass. If she is willing to withhold affection over a disagreement, then she is letting you know what she is about. I say keep moving forward and if she wants to throw these t…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:02 PM
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It has always been more important for men to be good in the bed as opposed to women. I would just do what Patrice O'neal said. "You fuck her like you hate her and you do it without expecting anything in return." Her competitiveness will get the best of her. Any woman I have been with where it was all about her, I would wear her out and then go get on the game. she ended up trying to get me off. But ultimately it can't be one sided. You are doing all the work and its just taking away from the int…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 01:32 PM
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That is dumb. First of all they don't even make any money. Women don't even care about wnba, but if women started going to games and supporting it then maybe they will start making money. She broke the rules in a different country so she has to suffer the consequences. She is not a baby and knows right from wrong. She has 9 years to think about her dumb ass decisions.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:54 PM
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So she raped that boy? Lets be all the way honest and call it what it is. She is a child raping pedo.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:52 PM
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The woman is automatically believed even before evidence is brought up. They know the system is in their favor and they have myriad of tools to move the situation to their advantage. The good thing is that women have a bad habit of snitching on themselves eventually. What is even worse, when a women is found out for lying then she still gets a pass and the guy is looked at like a monster regardless of evidence proving him otherwise. ​ And women wonder why men are going their own way
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:50 PM
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I was falsely accused of sexual harrassment by a woman whom I had rejected her advances. I simply turned her down and before I knew it the whole town was looking at me like a monster. It turned out she spread a rumor about me approaching her and I eventually got to a friend of mine unknowingly and relayed back to me. The only thing that worked in my favor was my character. People had known me longer than her and I never evr acted remotely close to what she was saying and most knew i kept to myse…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 10:16 PM
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Time to bounce homie. She as deeper issues that you aren't qualified to help with. With someone like that who disregards feelings because they are men is someone who has let you know what this relationship will be. You can't continue to allow yourself to be hurt because she as trauma. She won't take time to take care of that, so it is up to you to get out and let her figure her shit out. After what you mentioned, it is good that you love her, but you have to love yourself more. Staying any longe…
/r/MensRights13/07/22 03:26 PM
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