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Lol. Mistreated how? You think that women get killed and assaulted more by men than men? Why should men not mistreat women like they do to other men? Isn't equal treatment what y'all want?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:04 PM
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Men have only value to women for what they can do. It's their MO. As Chris Rock said, only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are loved only for as long as they provide something: "What have you done for me lately?" So just ignore them and focus on what you want to do. Along the way, one might tag along and you'll let her if you want. It's from time immemorial. Hunter gatherers for many millennia. Men are the only ones who hunted, and the results had to be shared with the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:59 AM
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I think you missed the point about how generalizing one way is A ok but doing so the other way is a sign of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:45 AM
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What if women A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K and L treated you badly. What are you supposed to do with woman M? Women rarely understand the sheer amount of mistreatment and rejection guys receive before they rely on just shunting off everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:40 AM
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But these categories are always on the radar of institutions. Help for women here, body positivity there. Poor men need to be criminals for the institutions to notice them. If not then they're the invisible army of the patriarchy, basking in their shitty jobs and minimum wages that pay for the CEOs positions that feminists so want to get. The problems of these poor men? Who cares? What matters is that there aren't enough female CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:49 AM
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It's not about your personal situation, it's about the rent of the place you used to be in. It's probably doubled now, and the people who are now in the position you were then, do not have double the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:34 AM
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You said "I would be single if it weren't for my husband." which is either a tautology, or it means he is the one person that could make you married. Similarly, I've never gone looking for a boyfriend just for the sake of having one. Lol. Let me guess. You met him and then decided to be his girlfriend. Some people pretend they never looked for ice cream in the fridge. I just opened it and it was there. Let's not pretend that the quasi totality of humans aren't inately geared to reproduce and thu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:43 AM
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This is a legal definition. Adulthood depends on location. And why aren't American adults not able to drink then? As you can see, the premise is culturally dependent yet the conclusions want to be anthropologically relevant. Unless you think humanity is restricted to the US, you cannot draw conclusions of what humans are just because of societal norms in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:38 AM
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I bet you rent also doubled...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:35 AM
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When men were all royalty. Women's hypergamy is so raging that even when looking back at history they confuse men and men of good status. Women never consider the fate of lower class men, despite the fact that they're more numerous, because for women, lower class men are not men. Just animals at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:32 AM
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I would be single if it weren't for my husband. Nah. Happily married people like to think that there's only one but their SO is one of the thousands that would have been just as nice. They just happened to not have met in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:29 AM
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I don't think women in their 40s and 50s are elderly...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:25 AM
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Wages have been stagnant since the 1980s when compared to productivity. Not 2008!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:19 AM
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1st world problems. In many places, 16 years olds are not in school anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:48 AM
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In France age of consent is 15, and it's legal with adults as long as said adult isn't a person with authority over the minor (teacher, police, etc.) You can join the military at 17 with parental consent. And although you cannot purchase alcohol before 18, there's no minimum age for drinking. 21 is an age that has no meaning outside of the US. Drinking age and majority is 20 in Japan (soon 18 for the latter). You're trying to argue cultural points with anthropological justifications, which makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:47 AM
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If you can't understand something you want to forbid it? Jeesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:40 AM
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It doesn't matter how rare that is. It does exist and thus men have to be prepared for it. This change of mind rape is exactly what got Black men lynched a century ago. Lynching was rare too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:53 PM
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Don't forget that these favors will nosedive as you age...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:52 AM
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By lanky vs. jacked, they mean Brad Pitt in Fight club as opposed to Schwarzenegger in T2. It's like me saying I prefer girl next door Jennifer Lawrence over cold beauties like Grace Kelly. "Girl next door"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:54 AM
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Swimmer's body... Do you know the amount of weight lifting swimmers do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:45 AM
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So listening to silence is work but listening to talk is not? Girl, psychologists get paid 100 an hour to listen to people talk about their problems. Boyfriends do that for free. Girlfriends and wives just think they have to think about what their SO may be thinking. It's self inflicted emotional labour...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:37 AM
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And women need to understand that guys want to be loved AND desired by their GF/wife. If it's only about love from a woman, we all have mothers and grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:09 AM
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He's there. But if you think that what his GF said won't have a serious impact, and not in a good way, on how he sees his GF, think again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:03 AM
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It's not that they need to have sexual restraint, it's that they can. It basically tells the boyfriend material that he's not attractive enough to not be able to have sexual restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:48 PM
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Why do women always retort to attacking the person and not the argument. They really cannot help resorting to shame, guilt and insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:36 PM
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It's called a first date. Men take the risk and if not willing to, they lower it by lowering the cost of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:34 PM
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It's commitment to his own orgasm. You don't get to decide how other people decide about their body. That's what the feminist movement has taught us. So well...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:29 PM
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Women tend to favor women very strongly. That's in group bias. Men do not exhibit such strong bias. Basically, women presuppose patriarchy because that is how THEY act, not how men actually do. DOI:10.1037/0022-3514.87.4.494 Four experiments confirmed that women's automatic in-group bias isremarkably stronger than men's and investigated explanations for thissex difference, derived from potential sources of implicit attitudes
/r/MensRights23/01/22 06:47 AM
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Because in highschool it's the time where girls can be sexual since they have what it takes (boobs and youth) but not boys because they don't (money and status). The opposite of highschool time is after 35, when girls lost their assets and boys gained theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:48 AM
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That doesn't prove what you say it does
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:45 AM
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It takes skills for a man to sleep around. It takes only will for a woman to do so. Hence the different treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:44 AM
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30 something students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:33 AM
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You talk a lot about studies but you provide little. Here's one. Le Roux, Pascal, David and Moisan tested DNA markers in 89 nuclear families in France in 1992 in the course of genetic testing. Of the 362 children tested, there were 10 who could not have been the offspring of their declared fathers, corresponding to a non-paternity rate of 2.8 per cent. M. Le Roux, O. Pascal, M. Andre, O. Herbert, A. David and J. Moisan, ‘Non-paternity and genetic counselling’, The Lancet, vol. 340, 1992, p. 607
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:42 AM
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You're missing the point that in order to be able to test the child he needs to be the declared father. Do you think random people can take random children's DNA?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:36 AM
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Men aren’t required to ask the mother’s permission to do an at-home paternity test though. Yes they are. You obviously miss the point that only a legal father would have the right to test a child. But that's the whole point of the test! If you think a random stranger can test a child DNA, think again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:39 PM
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The Duluth model presupposes that every man is an abuser. Haven't heard women complain about that one. It's funny how when the shoe is on the other foot then suddenly it's scandalous to generalize...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:29 PM
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Government is already involved as it enforces child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:26 PM
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Statistics from where? There hasn't been a proper study, only inferred numbers from other research. And we all know why that is so. A 3% rate would mean that there's one child in every classroom whose father isn't really the father...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:17 PM
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Lmao your idea of Asian countries is from animes and completely deluded which is ironic considering my flair Well, I have been living for a while in Japan, so whatever you say, mutilated baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:48 AM
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Lol no. Women aren't expected to work to death. More like expected to take care of the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:24 AM
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Women not happy about men. They say they're equal and yet still it's up o the men to do something. There's nothing better to show you're not equal when you have to acknowledge that unlike the other you're not able to build a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:21 AM
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Couples in Japan have almost 2 kids in average. The reason the overall birthrate is so low there is because there's not enough couples because 1. There's no single motherhood, so you need to be a couple to have kids and 2. People are just not forming couples anymore. For point 2, the herbivore phenomenon tells you that it's vastly men who are no longer interested, because they have nothing to gain from being in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:17 AM
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Men select for good vs. bad. Women select for best. So indeed one way of selecting is absolute, while the other is relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:52 AM
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And? Doesn't make you impervious to this BS. As evidenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:31 AM
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"I'm not like the other girls." Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:51 PM
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The implicit meaning is right there. It's related to OP's problem: women's narrative is too often divorced from reality. They'll say "stable income" instead of "high income", "potential" instead of "future good social position", and "one thing lead to another" instead of "I wanted to cheat but I don't want to be held accountable", etc. We all know that the distance between their words and the reality can be flabbergasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:39 AM
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I like how women say stable income to mean stable high income...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:56 AM
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Why do you assume that moving abroad means moving to a poorer country? It doesn't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:13 AM
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Fucking hell. Mutilating babies should be a straight to jail card.
/r/MensRights16/01/22 09:51 AM
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I like how they justify female strategies by calling them conflict avoidant while these strategies are the old shame, insult and guilt... In a word, female gaslighting and backstabbing painted as a positive thing.
/r/MensRights16/01/22 03:45 AM
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I'm not even from America. Can you stop using your thought-terminating cliche—pretending I'm an ignorant American. Never mentioned ignorance. I mentioned the habit of generalizing ones' situation to the world. The provider role is slavery, by definition, and it's enforced world-wide. In fact the slavery is even harsher outside of America. Lol. And it's a gender role, period. This is why across all cultures and time it has never been accepted to have househusbands and "breadwinner" wives. You con…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 11:11 AM
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Gender roles will never be eliminated because many are based on anthropological and biological elements. That's what feminists are finding out when pushing for equality in education: when perfectly free like in Scandinavia, women and men gravitate more towards their instinctual preference. Hence the more lopsided gender ratios in Scandinavia in fields like engineering than in southeast Asia. The point is thus to acknowledge those and be fair about it instead of pretending they're not there and c…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 04:18 AM
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Men get the slavery provider role forced upon them world-wide. No. That's the American speaking here. Plenty of vacation and free healthcare in many places. Men do play the provider everywhere but not everywhere is on slavery conditions. And no, if a gender role is across time and cultures then it's not a cultural aspect. It becomes an anthropological one or even a biological one. Maybe if people in the US didn't use the word gender instead of sex, they'd see it more easily.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 04:15 AM
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Nobody is saying that all women are modern women. Refusing to see trends by pointing at data points not fitting is irrelevant if the variance isn't great.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 04:11 AM
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The issue is about consistency. You cannot at once reject traditional roles when convenient and embrace when it is. Well actually you can. It's what modern women do. Scandinavian societies are now finding out with a Pikachu face that if left to their own devices, men and women tend to gravitate towards traditional gender roles. How not surprising. All this for that!
/r/MensRights14/01/22 11:37 AM
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Lol. Who else but Americans think that you have to work like a slave? Don't confuse gender roles and cultural ones.
/r/MensRights14/01/22 11:34 AM
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PEOPLE should do what makes them happy. Not be assigned a role by their gender. Except surprise. What makes most people happy is what is traditionally assigned to their sex. It's not like those traditional roles came out of nowhere.
/r/MensRights14/01/22 10:29 AM
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The old one liner from Gone with the wind: "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."
/r/MensRights13/01/22 07:04 AM
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Women say intimacy to mean men doing things for women. It allows them to pretend that it's mutually beneficial. Intimacy for women is always what a woman wants a man to do. It's exactly like for money. For women their money is theirs, the men's money is for both of them. What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours. Hence intimacy is just women's wants disguised as a common good. Stop the pretend and say things clearly, it's less hypocritical and men actually respect that more than the "it's for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:40 AM
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Men ALWAYS have to exchange goods and services for sex, whether directly by paying a prostitute or indirectly by entertaining and wooing the non prostitute. So that point is irrelevant for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:06 AM
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There's a difference between not having to and not wanting to. It's not that men don't want women to have pleasure, it's that they don't have to give them pleasure. Women not having pleasurable sex is a woman's failure, not the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:03 AM
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Even to get off, women demand that men do that for them. Men take their pleasure however they see fit. You should do the same instead of passively demanding that others do the work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:00 AM
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It’s an activity that people engage in when they like each other, despite what you pill people think The whole animal kingdom shows how wrong you are. Humans are also in a good part driven by biology. It's a innate urge for human males to want to stick their dicks in vaginas. If not, why would they? There's many more things prettier. Pretending it shouldn't be there is as silly as complaining that we are mortal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:57 AM
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Then women have to accept they are not equal to men. And they must justify then why they should have the same rights only when convenient for them and different rights when it serves them. It's the absence of coherence which is the most annoying. But unfortunately, women seem to be really unable to apply logic consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:16 AM
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In your example, what you called mansplaining actually added information ("US installed"). It's funny you consider adding information to what a woman said as offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:01 AM
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No. So you're saying is usually followed by distorting the other person's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:59 AM
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Mansplaining is what women consider condescending. Interrupting is one of these ways. Another is apparently rewording. Next it's going to be condescending to speak logically, hence why women are pissed when men do it...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:02 AM
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"so you're saying..." is a typically female way to reword. Somehow, when a woman does it, it's ok. If a man rewords then he's mansplaining. The absence of logic or the double standard is always what pisses off men because they stupidly believe that women are capable of adhering to logic and rejecting double standards, but they constantly do the opposite...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:59 AM
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If she could consent drinking, she could consent fucking. As usual, women decide but are not responsible for the consequences of their decision. Drunken sex is not rape. He drunk just like her. Did she rape him then? Of course not. Even having the proper tickets showing no alcohol was consumed is already being one step too far. If she said yes without being forced or threatened, she agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:25 AM
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Mensplaining is just women not liking being treated equally. Men mensplain to other men. It's called discussing something. Women just want to be listened to, not challenged or questioned. Women would say that Socrates kept mensplaining...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:22 AM
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Lol. So now mensplaining also means rewording ? Expanding the definition every new day. All right. Let's assume that this is a valid definition. Well rewording what women say is almost always a must for men. What do you want to eat? Anything. Chinese? No, not that. So Italian? ok. But stop mensplaining, I said anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:20 AM
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Plausible deniability. Women really hate accountability so just the appearance of drinking is enough since then they can say they were drunk and taken advantage of. Because it is never their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:10 AM
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American culture. Mansplaining comes from a culture that doesn't interrupt and in which women especially feel offended if so. Men don't like it either in those culture but they fight it instead of whining about it that "somebody do something", the rallying cry of Karens who still want the men to do things for them, the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:52 AM
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How dare I!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:49 AM
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No man cares that women know more than them in fashion or periods. The origin of mansplaining is that men are more assertive and aren't afraid to interrupt when they hear something they disagree with while women want to be listened to regardless of what they say, and if not they take that as insulting hence the term mensplaining which doesn't exist in cultures where interrupting others while they speak is common and accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:13 AM
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Women say intimidate when they blame a man for not performing what women think he should perform, ie, pay. That's what intimidate means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:09 AM
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That's 3 different crimes lumped into one category. How convenient to push up figures...
/r/MensRights06/01/22 12:34 PM
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Effort means doing it. The complaint isn't so much on what you do, because this can easily be remedied, just flip the girl, but on how often or when you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:08 AM
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The closest this would come to reality was despotic rulers using this, against the will of others. Are you formulating this hypothesis as an evolutionary biologist? What makes you say that such reality would come through a despotic rule only? The harem hypothesis can also explain it just as well. ​ The best model for human sexuality is akin to social birds. Pair bonding and a lot of cheating. That is a lot of cheating to create the actual ancestor sex ratio of 1 to 2 that humans have. The harem …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:58 PM
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The issue is that the legal system rewards such actions by women. We all know that men can be lousy too, but the legal systems doesn't reward guys for beating their girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:51 AM
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I'm questioning the premise of his question. Which showed you didn't seem to understand it... I doubt it was anything but a funny rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:02 AM
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You're confusing dividing into 2 and dividing by 2. Family courts is a theft system for most men. Women get more assets from divorce than what they contributed in the marriage, effectively shielding them from contribution to losses. Family courts have turned the marriage contract in many countries to a contract with a leonine clause for the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:55 AM
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I just explained the snappy comment you didn't seem to understand when you replied "why would that change my answer?"...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:49 AM
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Here we go again, "incel". Women cannot get off the shaming... Women ask for divorces and also take shit from it. It's the reality. It's interesting how in order to not discuss facts you talk about blame, and can't help throwing supposedly shaming language like "incel". Marriage is not a winning proposition for men unless very specific conditions. And rather than analyzing that situation, the only thing you can do is to try shaming people for not getting in such a trap. I bet you're suddenly not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:46 AM
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You don't need her money, it's almost always the case. The issue is whether she needs yours...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:13 AM
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Well your initial answer means you could stay with a guy who wants to get married with another woman... Hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:10 AM
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Not everyone is out to get their partner for all they have. You're right. Usually women who divorce want to feel good for themselves by leaving something to the ex. Like a futon or the dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:09 AM
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With divorce, each person takes their half of the money Lol. Gentlemen who care about your assets, here we are... This gotta be on the level of "stop resisting" uttered by police during a beat down. "It's only my half!"...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:07 AM
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who I can love Oh, that! That's gotta be the most female answer for defining something. What food do you want? I want something I enjoy eating. ....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:59 AM
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God laughs at those who deplore the consequences whose causes they cherish. Bossuet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:32 AM
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You forgot to mention what the standards are and whether your husband fit them...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:30 AM
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I've been in a position where I had to endure those dramas, but to be honest, they're more watchable than most of what the US produces nowadays. From memory, you have "Something in the rain", which is actually pretty well done and specifically about that dynamic (older lady, younger man, but they are only 5 or 6 years apart, so no biggy here), so at least it does not bullshit around and it's pretty realistic about the issue. But there are quite a few others I had to google to remember, like "Enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:01 AM
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Tell us more about what constitutes having a life? Not surprising that you need to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:58 AM
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I don’t care enough to. I suspect you don't like this answer when it comes to things that can potentially impact you... "How spent you the summer?" Quoth she, looking shame At the borrowing dame. "Night and day to each comer I sang, if you please." "You sang! I'm at ease; For 'tis plain at a glance, Now, ma'am, you must dance."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:56 AM
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It's not a static group though. There's a new young woman every minute. So guys, unlike girls, have a longer time to get it right. Funnily enough, if you spend a decade doing it right, you don't think women are worth it. A lot of people forget that it's not only the attractiveness curves that are different, but also the very desire of each gender. A single man at 40 wants a woman less than when he was 20. A single woman at 20 doesn't want a man unless he's in the top 1%. Single at 40 and every m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:39 AM
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Because women make up it by looking at a mirror. They're the judge with the impossible standard. I've been on a ship. The warning to the men is be more selective where you put your dick. Not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:24 AM
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People here need to understand why abuse of men is ignored or downplayed: because if you notice it at home, you'll notice it elsewhere. Most of the economy is based on abusing workers. Imagine if men started to wake up to abuse and stopped putting up with it at home and at work... The whole system would grind to a halt.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 01:07 AM
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Out of all neonaticides, killing of newborn, how much was done by men? That's right, almost none. Women don't murder that much because they cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:06 PM
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You're failing to notice that male criminals do crime on other men rather than women. So you're basically complaining about the inability of women to disobey ..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:01 PM
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Chris Rock said so a while ago... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sJfFGgzhfhY
/r/MensRights01/01/22 10:21 AM
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It's the usual female form of discourse: shame and insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:06 AM
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It's funny how you presume that women need to first be loved to then be attracted. That's precisely the issue: take first and then maybe give. Most guys nowadays don't see the point in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:04 AM
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Well I'd women decrease in likeliness, then it's no surprise rejection of them increases...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:02 AM
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I guess you were born yesterday then...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:59 AM
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The study shows that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic own group preference. It matters because it shows how patriarchy, a supposed in-group bias where men favor men, is bullshit and is actually just projection from women, who do exhibit such gender in-group bias and thus assume that men also do but in reality men don't. It shows that such a bias is probably why women tend to give detrimental advice to men if they think it will favor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:25 AM
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Family court is where ends up half of marriages. It might not be representative of all relationship but its sheer number makes it representative of a large part of them. I'm amused by the therapy/counselor advice. The monetization knows no bounds. It is women who made sex relations adversarial: that's what feminism is! So don't blame men for the consequences of women's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:05 AM
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The well used "and one thing lead to another" to explain how they ended up sucking a dick in a broom closet... Agency is foreign to women. Their default mode is to pretend it isn't there. They even made up the whole feminist narrative to present women's history as an absence of agency. And of course, who's to blame? Not themselves...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:30 AM
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Well family court will definitely teach you that indeed it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:26 AM
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As he mentioned, the empirical data is that the sons of single mothers do worse in life than anyone else (and no it's not poverty and all because even controlled with other social data, the results stand). If women were indeed giving good advice, then this result wouldn't exist since single mothers would give at least as good advice to their sons as single fathers. The proof is in the pudding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:25 AM
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It's called in group bias. It's a well studied phenomenon. And surprisingly, only exhibited by women when about gender... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:20 AM
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In group bias exist for women, but not men. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/ In Experiment 1, only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem (A. G. Greenwald et al., 2002), revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic own group preference. Experiments 2 and 3 found pro-female bias to the extent that participants automatically favored their mothers over their fathers or associated male gender with violence, suggesting that mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:13 AM
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Do you realize that most kids growing up are only facing women, at home and at school? Yes, all males started by first listening to women. Becoming a man is precisely stopping to do that. Those who had another adult man around usually fare better. The whole manosphere is just reproduction of men's wisdom where it was removed from society to prioritize a female trait convenient for the powers that be: obedience. And so came TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:09 AM
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Men also contradict themselves. I have been told by several men they want an intelligent woman with a nice personality lol They were probably young and hadn't realized yet that it's indeed a contradiction to want these two things in one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:02 AM
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Women tell men what they want ALL the time, they just do it somewhat non-verbally. Are they drawing it then? You realize that the very definition of tell is to use words?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:00 AM
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That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard and will definitely be needing a source for that Here, an example for driving. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0022437596000138 The survey found that males were significantly more likely than females to report driving, engaging in unsafe driving behaviors, drinking and driving, speeding on the open road, breaking the night curfew associated with being on a restricted licence, and dangerous thought patterns. If you do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:32 AM
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No. Women can be intellectually curious They do read books. But they're not intellectually adventurous. And that's why most inventors, thinkers and the like have been men. Women don't dare to cross limits. It has its good sides, which means they're well behaved students with good grades. Men don't limit themselves with limits. It has its bad sides as most criminals are men. Women don't explore, men do. I'm pretty sure this has a biological foundation, from the need to have a stable environment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:46 AM
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You see. You are demonstrating my point. You got offended so you pretend to not understand. On an anonymous and written platform, you will NOT say the same things as in real life conversation. Furthermore, the very format of threads is indeed a series of monologues. OP and I referred to oral in person conversations. The reason why people write what they write in message boards is that they would not dare speak like that. Especially women. But even on Reddit women can't help playing the offended …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:36 AM
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You're misunderstanding. I'm not talking about the Reddit threads. I'm talking about exactly what OP is referring to when engaging in oral conversation. Women do not engage in conversation first for the topic, but for relating to others. This means that the form of the conversation is paramount for them. Men on the other hand tend to engage conversation for the topic at hand, thus form is secondary. It doesn't mean that there isn't a better way, it just means that as long as the topic matter, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:33 AM
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You are blaming others for your lack of ability to actually have a 2 way conversation. That's the whole point. Women have such inflated idea of themselves that they think they should be afforded 2 way conversation. Men know that such 2 way conversation are only worth when someone has something to contribute and thus if you can not push your side, it means your contribution isn't really valuable. This whole thing shows how women demand to be treated well, not for what they provide, but simply for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:48 AM
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Im not seeing a whole lot of women on Reddit whining about having no one to talk to. That's because women indeed value talking to people. That's precisely OP's point: women don't value what you talk about and would rather talk about mundane things in an easy and welcoming way than talk about interesting things because they would have to challenge views, debate and interrupt. You're saying the same thing as OP but you think it's a good thing because you value who you talk with over what you talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:29 AM
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What did you say when you heard about the president songs thing? Because if you didn't engage in the topic, asking at least three or four questions about it (the topic itself, not question like "where did you learn that?"), then the guy probably didn't realize you valued his input. It's about women's failure to engage in conversation about topics they don't know that OP is complaining about. It's the reason why girls perform better at school: they listen and don't engage unless they've studied p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:55 PM
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Learn to inject the information in doses and in a fun way. That's precisely what OP complains about. You suggest he learn how to teach. He's not here to teach. He noticed that women consider that conversation means listening to others while men consider conversation as speaking about something. He noticed that women don't want to talk about something because they don't know how to. He concludes that women don't value intelligence but that's wrong. He should just conclude that women don't value i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:47 PM
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That's the sorry excuse of people not having knowledge on anything to say that it's not because you know things that you're intelligent. Ok that's true. But you are not intelligent if you don't know anything. And Socrates did know one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:40 PM
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There is a difference in communication indeed but it doesn't mean women don't value intelligence. Women converse with people. They think the rules of conversation (speak in turn) are there to allow everyone to participate. Men converse about things. Everyone speaking in turn is an ideal result of people challenging each other but if one cannot question the others views, then there's no speaking in turn and only one person talking in details about something. It's still a conversation for men. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:36 PM
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It's one sided and awkward if you let it be so. The whole thread of women complaining and accusing OP of just giving speeches actually proves his point: women don't know how to engage in conversation about challenging topic. Speak in turn is a result of people not afraid of speaking but women here and there confuse that as a rule for each to speak because for them, the point of conversation isn't the topic but the people speaking. That's why women just want you to listen without really chipping …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:29 PM
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OP could be a total weirdo for all we know. Some really can't help it. S.I.G.N. language...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:23 PM
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Well maybe actually discussing prevents people from giving speeches. Women rarely discuss. They speak in turn. It's not the same thing and women actually know that since they accuse men of "interrupting" them all the time. What men call having a conversation is the ability to wrestle the topic and thus the other person, not be afraid to interrupt when needed, etc. OP is right when he noticed at such young age that women don't really discuss things. I wouldn't say that it means they don't value i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:21 PM
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It's everything we're talking about. It's not because you don't want to see it, that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:03 AM
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Says the one ignoring middle class worker history. That's a 20th century history at best. Sorry but in the 19th century, women WERE in factory for half the salary (children were a quarter). Again, this was due to a conjunction of cheap energy (oil) with rapid demographic growth. It lasted a couple of generations, a blimp in history. Middle class IS a 20th century concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:06 AM
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By "help themselves to it" you mean rape. If you "help yourself" to a womans body without consent, that is rape, and it is a crime. But cutting off the dick of a newborn without his consent is not a crime. See the problem now? You cannot at once pretend that society SHOULD have a say in preventing rape yet that sex is purely about indiidual choice. It is one OR the other. So be consistent. Either you agree that indeed society should have a say, like for preventing rape, but then you have to expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:48 AM
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Society prevents a 40 years old to sleep with a 14 years old. The rules of incest are there too. Pretending that society doesn't have rules for who you can sleep with is just not true. Circumcision shows how hypocritical those who pretend that sex should be an individual choice are: they are completely cool with unwanted genital mutilation but not against unwanted genital usage. Why the discrepancy? He who can do the most (permanent consequences of mutilation) can do the least (temporary consequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:48 AM
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Lol. Study history and sociology and see how true that is. I suspect you'd be the first to cry scandal if a willing 14 years old who's biologically able to reproduce sleeps with a 40 years old man. I'm sure your mantra of "everyone does what they want with their genitals" will be qualified with a bunch of exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:44 AM
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Men aren't owed women's body but they can help themselves to it. So what will you say then? It's funny how the line "there's no social obligation" to do something is only used when it's something you don't want. If there are social duties, then there must be rights associated to that. If society prevents men from doing what they have the individual ability to do, ie have sex with a woman just because he wants to and regardless of what she wants, then there must be a right associated to the duty.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:41 AM
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Then why should society prevent experiencing it with some people? You have to be consistent. You cannot at once say there's no obligation to sex yet impose social barriers to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:36 AM
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All right. Then let's say sex and shelter. As seen everywhere, homeless don't die they just feel shitty. Women circumcise their babies every day and Americans think it's normal. What's the difference then? The question is about being consistent. If you consider sex as purely individual then you can say noone owes it to you. But you cannot then impose social norms on it (like minimum age, etc.) The hypocrisy is to say that there's no social obligation for sex yet impose lots of social control on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:33 AM
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Sex isn't a right, you don't "deserve" sex. Aside from claiming it, you haven't explained that. Sex is a basic need like food. If we follow your reasoning, then noone owes anyone food. And thus it should be legal and moral to let younglings and elderly starve if they cannot provide food for themselves. So please explain why the difference of treatment between these two basic needs? Fulfilling them both need the work of others, be it farming or hooking. And most people nowadays consider sex work …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:18 PM
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For men, income of women is a binary category: can she support herself or not. Lots of men do want a spouse who can support herself. But how much she makes is irrelevant if she can support herself. Women on the other hand consider a given that men be able to support themselves and thus classify men by income bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:44 PM
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Indeed. People misconstrue a bourgeois social norm from the 19th century that was prevalent only in one generation after WW2 with a so-called traditional life style. When 80% of the population were farmers, women worked the farm just as much. 10% of the rest were merchants and the wife worked the shop as well. People's ignorance of history made them lap up feminist propaganda, even those who oppose it and value so-called traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:40 PM
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I see you're ignoring that to bash on sex workers though. At what point did I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:50 AM
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See, the funny thing about OnlyFans is that all the women on there are independent and completely human-trafficking-free, Lol. Sounds like you have such account... Sex work is like drugs. It doesn't need support, it needs to be regulated correctly because it'll happen anyway. Enthusiastically supporting sex work is a sign of stupidity in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:17 AM
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Well, trafficked women whose tits you see on photos may very well have been harmed in the process. So yes pictures of tits might lead to worse consequences than responsible drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:28 AM
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Try to sell naked pictures to a minor and see how that works. It's totally the bartender's fault to sell alcohol to intoxicated people. That's why such action is illegal in many areas. In some places they might even be responsible for accidents. If a seller is never responsible then all the crooks would rejoice: they'd be off the hook saying the buyer didn't do their due diligence. Same for people. There's a difference between a guy lying to a girl saying he wants a relationship and another guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:05 AM
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Funny how this line of thought is suddenly gone when it comes to selling alcohol. Somehow barmen are responsible to not sell to minors or drunk folks. But selling tits, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:54 AM
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TRP doesn't pretend betabux is the only way to attract women...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:42 AM
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Moreover, society pressurizes men as well, by telling them to provide for their family, to always have a job, to get the newest XYZ. That's because society only needs women for their biological purpose, which most of them innately want to fulfill anyway. While for men, they're many superfluous ones re their biological purpose. Society is thus built on exploiting these superfluous men by cheating them by making them chase something they won't reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:05 AM
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Getting and satisfying all your needs for self-actualization requires obtaining a certain level of acceptance and status. Not really. So many philosophical traditions actually state just the opposite: it's all in your head so you can decide on your own and not rely on others. Basically, Maslow's hierarchy first level (in which he put sex while intimacy is much higher) and the safety needs of the second level would be enough. The rest is just viewpoint and thus changeable at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:00 AM
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I'm not sure about the voice but I agree that the introduction of gadgets has impacted gender dynamics. It's not new. There's plenty of studies showing how the introduction of the bicycle in the 19th century widened the circle in which people met their mate. Before the bike, they were restricted to their own village. After the bike, they could find their mate in the nearby villages too. This has been true with every new transportation means. There's no marrying a Thai girl without jumbo jets. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:38 AM
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And surely you wouldn't assume someone is guilty without it being proven. Why not? This is the standard by which men are judged. So you have to be consistent and either say allegations are enough, and then just like 20 millions of allegations of violence were put forth then you can just say that many are just lies. OR, you demand evidence but then not only of the fact that many are a lie but also of the fact that indeed violence happened. If those allegations in family court did really happen, t…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:52 AM
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SO basically, all female surgeons are good thus there is no discrepancy in outcome, but for male surgeons there are some bad ones who do have a discrepancy in outcome which shows in the overall number for male surgeons. And the reason why all female surgeons are good is because there are so few of them that those who do become surgeons are indeed good at their job. Well... Men bad. They should stop being surgeons...
/r/MensRights14/12/21 03:06 PM
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This was a study of young people. Average age of respondents was 21.5. And there’s nothing suggesting prostitution was involved. Nothing suggests that prostitution was not involved, quite the contrary considering how many more men are in "just for sex" vs. "dating exclusively" for women. Also these are data for one generation ago (1994-2002). Pre online dating. You could then compensate ugly with attitude. Not possible on Tinder anymore... Table 6 says it "For men, being very physically very att…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:58 PM
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We agree on that. The thing is, people here don't realize that "paternity testing at will" isn't a way to decide freely. It is only a way for American men not to be saddle with the wrong kid since they are going to be forced to support said kid. Which is not a way to decide to be a father or not.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:41 PM
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You can’t force someone to have an abortion, that’s inhumane. Nobody is forcing anyone to have an abortion. It is HER decision. But then so are the consequences of HER decision. You cannot claim sole responsibility and then ditch the consequences of the decision on others. That's what women do nowadays. They want to decide on their own, but they want men to pay for women's decisions, because women understand they're just teenagers who still need parents to subsidize them, be they a man or the go…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:39 PM
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You can’t control someone into having an abortion by withholding money from a child, sorry. Indeed. But then this person who doesn't want an abortion decided to have the kid, just like she would have decided not to have the kid. It's 100% her decision, thus it is 100% her responsibility.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:37 PM
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If women have a greater likelihood of poor surgery with male surgeons it means that women have a greater likelihood of good surgery with female surgeons which is evidence of gender based preferential treatment by female surgeons... No?
/r/MensRights14/12/21 12:19 PM
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Parenthood should be 100% a choice and it should also be 100% transparent in everything. I agree with the second part but not the first. Parenthood doesn't have to be a choice. It's very often not a choice but something you have to deal with. However, if we decide that it should be a choice for women then it should also be a choice for men. Conversely if we decide that men don't have a choice then we should accept that neither do women. The issue right now is the discrepancy in treatment: women …
/r/MensRights14/12/21 11:46 AM
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Men can use condoms, get a vasectomy or remain abstinant if they don't want to risk being a father. Women can use the same AND abortion if she doesn't want to be a single mother.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 08:04 AM
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What happens when the father says he’s in and then leaves when it’s too late to have an abortion? So you agree that the father should have the choice to leave if he says so early enough, right? Except he still doesn't have such choice.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 08:03 AM
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So the father walks away with zero responsibility and the mother has 100% responsibility to care for the child and 100% responsibility to pay for the child? And you think that’s equal? She had 100% responsibility in keeping the fetus. She demanded to be 100% responsible to bring the baby to this world. Then so be it. She should have 100% of the responsibility of the consequences of her own decisions.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 08:01 AM
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76% had sex, which yes is less than 81% of ugly women, but not nearly as much of a difference as you would think based on claims I see here. Now let's split this into age categories. I doubt that ugly young men and ugly young women have sex at such close percentage. Ugly men eventually resort to prostitution, hence they get into this group. Ugly women don't need prostitutes, there's always some dude willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:01 AM
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What if he is married? The husband is automatically the father. He has 5 years from the birth of the child to sue in court to remove the paternity link. He needs to show why he is suspicious of such absence of paternity. The judge can then order a paternity test. The mother can oppose it because the use of the child's DNA must be cleared by both parents. However, such opposition would be very telling for the judge, who can severe the paternity link in absence of a paternity test. Marriage in Fra…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 06:00 AM
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How about protecting everyone? How would you do that? You need to balance protection between the father, the mother, and the child. Yes, the guy is a victim, but a victim of his own carelessness since in France a man has to OPT IN fatherhood. He is entitled to some protection, but not to the extent that such protection would be an undue burden on the child.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 05:55 AM
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There are studies about it: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-organization/article/abs/women-and-children-first-gender-norms-and-humanitarian-evacuation-in-the-balkans-199195/416E848849B8C92DBB571D4855F7BFEB ​ Of all noncombatants in the former Yugoslavia, adult civilian men were most likely to be massacred by enemy forces. Why, therefore, did international agencies mandated with the “protection of civilians” evacuate women and children, but not military-age men, from besiege…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 05:30 AM
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The most interesting thing to me here is that ugly men still have more partners than average, attractive, and very attractive women, and about the same as ugly women. You seem to have missed an important qualifier: Ugly men that have had sex, NOT just ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:00 AM
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You've missed the point that the average number is for those who had sexual experience. And the proportion of virgins isn't the same for men and women. The pareto principle has nothing to do with averages but with population distribution, which of course includes those who haven't had sex. That's also a reason why the average number of partners is higher for men than for women because it's calculated only with those who've had at least one, and it's because even though the groups are of the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:57 AM
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Worse case scenario in France is you realize the kid isn't yours when she's 5. You can no longer sue to severe the legal link of paternity. You are then saddled with child support for 13 years. Assuming you don't want to see the kid then you pay full child support, which is calculated according to your income. Here https://www.justice.fr/simulateurs/pensions-alimentaire/bareme It's going to be 3000 euros per year, so 39k overall. That's a costly mistake but you won't even go to jail or have your…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 03:11 AM
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Lol. France doesn't force any man to pay child support. Unlike the US. You're projecting American problems on France without understanding that the legal system is different. If you want to walk out and stop paying, then do so. Plenty of unpaid child support which is capped at around 250 euros a month anyway. France is not the US. If you learned how other systems worked instead of grandstanding then maybe you'd find solutions to American problems where men are jailed and bankrupted because of ch…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 03:03 AM
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If a man has been deceived by his partner, to raise a child that was not his for 10+ years, he has every right to walk away, if that is his decision. It's in France you can do that. You walk away and the police doesn't give a shit. There's a 5 years limit to legally severe a paternity link. That's plenty enough. Better protect men from fake paternity claims than cuckolds who took to long to wake up.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 03:00 AM
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Your knowledge is wrong. In France an unmarried man has to walk into city hall to declare himself a dad. That's why if he wants to go back on that, he has to sue and thus paternity tests must be mandated by a judge.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:57 AM
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No.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:56 AM
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Last time I read up on it there were 14 countries in Africa that were paying the colonial tax. It is not a small number it amounts to around 500 billion. Lol. Please provide some links with half credible source. 500 billions what? Euros ? That is twice France annual budget so it shows how bs this comment is...
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:53 AM
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Don't make me laugh. Under French law, men are not allowed to have paternity tests in the Court of Law unless the girlfriend/wife gives permission That's simply incorrect. Can you guys stop repeating and upvoting this kind of shit? Paternity tests in France must be mandated by a judge because paternity is a legal link the man opted in and so it can only be revoked through a lawsuit, so the test must be done under court order. Unlike in the US, a man in France cannot be a dad without explicitly d…
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:45 AM
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Men should not be shamed for wanting to shame women to keep female hypergamy in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:29 PM
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Human males are supposed Are supposed by whom? Women? Men who have plenty of women? It's like me telling people complaining they're hungry: "well then just eat!".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:35 PM
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It's like eating. It's not because you need to eat regularly that you're always hungry. The very biological point of males in sexual reproduction is to mix genes. It's thus not surprising how strong the sex drive is in males. And for humans it's not the strongest. There are species where sex is lethal for males and yet they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:29 AM
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She was walking into a person but by playing sidewalk chicken which is harmless social experiment. He was walking into a person, but not in the same spirit. Just patriarchy and male entitlement.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 12:48 AM
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The well being of sex workers should be centered in discussions of legalization. Nothing else matters. It'd be more convincing with any semblance of argument. It's not enough to decree that it should to pretend that it is. It's the typical logical fallacy of SJWs... By the same logic I could say: Who cares about the well being of a few prostitutes? The well being of the johns should be centered in the discussions of legalization. Nothing else matters. See how empty such comment is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:41 AM
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Practice makes perfect. People who are forced to take into account other people due to self interest are still taking other people interest into account, no matter the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:20 AM
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It's spot on. You just have to read these relationship advice subs. Half of the answers are "that's abuse, get a lawyer and a divorce" which most of the time is obviously not the best long or mid term solution for a woman with small children. Basically, society used to force long term cooperation, you were married for life, so individually you only had to worry about the short term. Once society removed the long term enforcement, people kept on the habit of worrying only about the short term. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:10 AM
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There's a whole study about how the UN protected women and children in Bosnia while they knew that males were the primary target. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3594843 But you know. Patriarchy and all that...
/r/MensRights09/12/21 01:55 PM
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The dating market was certainly not more cruel back then. People are much nicer when face to face and with less options...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:24 AM
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Sorry but the pill was illegal in Japan until 2000 or so and is almost never used, and despite this women don't have children anymore, which shows that culture is the main driver of change regarding birth control, not the means. The pill has definitely impacted the West but only because of the way it fit in the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:21 AM
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Well, the very fact you're successful with multiple women implies you haven't quite found one worth keeping. Is that success?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:16 AM
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Because men don't get their political opinions from outside validation unlike women. Men have to accept the fact that women will have silly opinions on many things or they must renounce any interaction with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:01 AM
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Most people want to stop their work. That doesn't mean they are indentured workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:58 AM
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You can wait as long you want, but you'll have to split the bills and organize the outings every other time. If you do so, then there's no problem. If you demand FDS style date, then you'll be ghosted if you don't give back something, and it's obviously not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:45 AM
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That's so American... "I did not have sex with that woman" after getting a blowjob...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:43 AM
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That's the neolithic bottleneck I just told you about... There is a difference between reach a maximum speed of 150 kph on the highway and saying that you went from city X and city Y at 150 kph in average. That's the difference between the 1/17 ratio and the 1/2 ratio which is the average. Still, one male for two females in average shows quite the female hypergamy that is supposedly not existing...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:36 PM
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I'm talking about in general. I don't know about you in particular although I can suspect that it is like the average. See for example:https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2014/research-shows-disparity-between-tax-paid-by-women-and-men The issue is the consistency of the position. You cannot at once, go for ID politics by grouping men on one side, and women on the other, just when it is convenient for you, and then defaulting back to a "we are all individuals" when it is no longer convenient. Since femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:26 PM
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If your job did not exist 30 years ago, or on the other side of the earth, it is not an essential job. Essential jobs are those jobs that almost every society needs, thus you find them across time (at different eras) and across space (in different countries). Not that there is anything wrong in making bank in doing useless crap, but the point is to know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:07 PM
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Fair, missed it completely. You get the same amount of roads and electricity as I do, and I certainly don’t leech off of public utilities while getting my COVID checks. I… contribute. The question is: do you contribute more than you get? In dollars, probably not. And even the value of whatever you contribute is only socially useful in an energy rich society brought to you by men. I don't know how to live without men growing food and bringing it to me and those who built my house. I know how to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:04 PM
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Historically speaking this doesn't work out like this. In prehistoric times strong men got harems and 90% of men didn't procreate. Lol. Not really. We have two female ancestors per one male ancestors, so that's not exactly 90%. There is a bottle neck at the beginning of the neolithic, probably because women were used as war spoils. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/generations-war-ancient-mystery.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:56 PM
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Yep. Typical feminist action. Telling men to go die for the masters is basically their raison d'être.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:39 AM
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-don’t have kids -went to private school -pay for my own medical insurance -parents paid for college. You of course never used roads. Never used airports. Never used electricity. Never used toilets. Never used plumbing. etc. As I said. You only look at what you contribute, not what you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:51 AM
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Regardless of how you put it, my labor is a part of this society. There is a demand for it. Sure. Now. But is your labor really useful? There is a simple test: can you do the same job through time and space? I know farmers can. HR division head, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:49 AM
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I suspect that if you're not good enough with words, it is sufficient. Try words, they convey thinking better than anything else. If you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:48 AM
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Because feminism's goal is not to advance women's rights or whatever. It is to further justify the exploitation of men under the guise that they are part of some mystical patriarchy. No wonder the elite loves such discourse. And here, you have all the useful idiots enforcing it who answer to a problem about X that the "ReAL iSSue is HOw WOmEn hAve BeEN opPReSSed". God, women are really the guard dogs of established order. Orwell writes about his hero in 1984: He disliked nearly all women, and es…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:33 AM
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The thing is, women's issues are taken seriously not because women force everyone to take them seriously, but because the men of the elite want the general population to take them seriously. Because the men in the elite know that by focusing on women's issues, people will not focus on issues that allow these guys to be in the elite. And women are lapping this up. You go girl. In the meantime, you're not a power lawyer, you're sales assistant at the Gap, barely making ends meet, with debt no hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:22 AM
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Nope. Chimp looking guy know that 4 weaklings can gang up on him. That is what women are never aware about physical violence: men know what it costs, not just what it can bring, because they have been on both ends of it. Civilization is good for everybody, that’s why I actively participate in maintaining it. I don’t owe special thank you notes to other participants. Me funding this shit is sufficient. You are not funding anything. Money is purely a creation at a bank. It is called credit. You ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:49 AM
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My point is that both men and women are simultaneously beneficiaries and providers, and the idea that we have to go around and trumpet “men who courageously guard the society” is one-sided. I literally fucking pay them. https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2014/research-shows-disparity-between-tax-paid-by-women-and-men Except you take more than you contribute and you don't have the decency to recognize that. You boast about what you pay, but ignore what you receive, or even worse DENY that you received w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:44 AM
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Women see themselves as a group. Men don't. What you listed as what feminism fought for are exactly what is used to oppress: a job to keep you obedient, with enough money to survive but not enough to flee. Feminism has promoted salaried work. The most consumer minded, and useless form of work. You forgot that the "bank account without husband consent" had a reason: the husband was RESPONSIBLE for the loans of the wife, not the wife. Hell, the suffragettes used this and refused to pay taxes so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:34 AM
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Also men literally murder women every day and you cant handle a tweet? What kind of logic is this? How about this: "women killing fetuses every day and you can't handle a right hook?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:28 AM
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When did this kind of response ever helped the one who had the problem? It is on purpose. By doing so, it shows that said problem is not really a problem, it is a feature of the society. Then guys realize that indeed, the problems MRA complain about are not problems. There are features of the current society because it is how the work of men is better exploited for concentration of wealth among the few. Because unlike women, men know from experience and history that men are not a class. Women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:26 AM
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I feel like some men of reddit are just like “omg women aren’t giving me pussy even though I want them to be attractive, young, virgins and they’re complaining on the internet about men so my life sucks”?!? Well Reddit banned MGTOW. So no, obviously you're painting the narrative different from the reality. The world will keep spinning. Their quality of life is the only thing that will be affected if they checkout. It is the total opposite. It is the very reason why social media and the like do N…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:17 AM
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Yes, the statement about the fish and the bike is about personal level, which i did refer to in the OP It is a claim by feminists who also claim that THE PERSONAL IS POLITICAL. Thus then pretending now that it is not a political or social statement is really disingenuous. The reason why women do not need A man, is because there are MEN who will support them. They don't want A man do depend on, they want multiple men to depend on. Because of course, it decreases dependency to that one man. But it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:04 AM
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We do need a movement dedicated to men's issues that will really work on them and not just against feminism. It is not possible since the feminist movement is by nature pushing to ignore or increase the very issues men face. You'll have to choose. And since feminism is highly compatible with elitism, since it justifies the further exploitation of the working class men, then the elites have been pushing feminism across the board for this very reason. Feminism is nothing more than a modern justifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:00 AM
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Good lord. Emojis used as comments. Reduction of thoughts like in newspeak...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:18 AM
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In a word: "You are wrong because I say so." Very convincing indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:30 AM
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But that's not what anyone is talking about when he says "I don't need a woman" Any man who says that means he does not care for children. That's the only thing women are NEEDED for men. There is absolutely no other thing but reproduction and sex (which is the reproduction drive). On the other hand, women do need men for quite a lot of things in their lives. Anything that makes their life tenable is done by men. The need for the other sex is not equal. It is indeed equal for reproduction, but ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:28 AM
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This just in: women are incapable of contributing to science, to medicine, to literacy, to literally anything Not incapable. Less capable. But they certainly are more capable in other fields. It is not my fault that you value more the fields where men are more dominant. ​ Women's over all lack of physical strength in comparison to men means that we are incapable of building society. Well, not until men have built the tool that allows you to overcome this weakness. How convenient. ​ Never has a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:25 AM
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One of the issues is that their formula for calculation was "ambiguous". If my formula is ambiguous, can I absolutely state that my conclusion is correct? Yes, since they clarified it, and the CORRECTED conclusion is exactly the text I copied which supported the earlier claim that INDEED, in Scandinavia where gender equality is considered most advanced, there is a higher level of discrepancy in STEM between gender. ​ Even if less women prefer STEM to men does not mean that there was no bias or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:13 AM
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I like how you think that "so much to unpack", ie, using your brain for a while, is somehow a valid counter-argument. Enjoy Mario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:06 AM
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It's feminism and women who started the new rule: you now are part of a group based on sex. It's women who exhibit in-group preferences for women. Men don't for men. As every man knows from personal life and history, men are not one group. However, we accepted to play by women's rule which was to pretend that sex is a class. Ok then, let's play by your rules. Well you keep on losing still and now you're butthurt "you're proud of others of the same gender". Well woman, you girls started this shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:53 AM
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How any of the corrections you linked change the overall results? It's a correction, not a retraction. One of those correction includes writing this: “Yet, paradoxically, Finland has one of the world’s largest gender gaps in college degrees in STEM fields, and Norway and Sweden, also leading in gender-equality rankings, are not far behind.” Which is exactly what was pointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:41 AM
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Are we saying that women were never outright discouraged and banned from "building society"? If you can be banned or discouraged from building a society, it means you don't have the ability to do so. The failure of women here isn't due to some overarching conspiracy called patriarchy, but simply to women's lack of competency for building societies. Women's competences is about reproducing and continuing societies, but not creating ones. And this is evidenced by the fact that there's never been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:22 AM
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To fulfill women's social needs, women need men to build and operate all the basic infrastructure women for said social needs to be fulfilled. Women say they don't need a man is just because they're incapable of seeing men as individuals. For them, men are not individuals but a support system they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:16 AM
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"need A man"... actually meant they still needed men. Same thing for the bedroom apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:13 AM
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It's not "sex assigned at birth". It is sex. The assigned at birth is as ridiculous for sex as saying "2 eyes assigned at birth". No matter what the discourse is, the reality remains. That some people want to live as the opposite sex, I don't care and actually most people wouldn't care if they were no so in your face. But let's not pretend that it is actually a sex change, because nowadays sex is supposedly just a social construct. It's transgender, not transsexual. Here the change of words was …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:15 PM
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Intersex is about issues of SECONDARY sex characteristics, NOT about the definition or the determination of sex itself. Again, people here are mixing many different things. And sometimes on purpose. It is exactly like saying that because there are French nationals that do not speak French, then it must mean that there is no such thing as being French. Such kinds of arguments are SILLY. They were already when just confined in academia, and there are still even when pushed by multinationals. ​ Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:10 AM
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It means that it is likely a spectrum, not that it invalidates the existence. No. There is no defined border between France and Italy in the Mont Blanc area. This in no way means that there is a spectrum of France and Italy in the Mont Blanc area. It'll be either one or the other. Not knowing where exactly does not mean it is a spectrum. Again there is quite the logical flaw in this automatic jumping to "a spectrum". There's not in the case of sex. It is either male or female, just like there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:27 AM
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The trans discourse only exists because right wing grifters know that they can always resort to it to rule up its perpetually angry base. I doubt it. The trans discourse is relatively new, and is just a forerunner of some transhumanist bullshit and the ever greater commodification of the human body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:58 AM
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If gender is fluid, then it is likely biological sex is fluid as well. Lol. That's quite an awful logic. What can make you affirm that if gender can be fluid then sex can? ​ Look up androgen insensitivity syndrome. These are people that havechromosomes that match male, but feel or probably think they are closerto biological female. I discuss this else where in this thread. That all the secondary sexual characters (called secondary for a reason) may not be expressed because of biological issue do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:53 AM
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We wouldn't be demanding the right to medically transition to a different sex if it were not. Sex is real and immutable. No matter what you do to your body, you won't change sex. It's not something you can do to your sex like you can with your gender. As I said, people confuse both, especially in the English speaking world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:46 AM
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The confusion between gender and sex exists mainly in English speaking countries because English is a language without gender so they conflated both and then took one for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:41 AM
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It's a common political trick to manipulate the words describing reality so that people are unable to have a grasp on reality. That's the whole point of the trans discourse being so prevalent despite it concerning almost noone. They managed to make people disbelieve their own experience by convincing them that sex isn't real. If you can do that with something so obviously real and part of nature, you can make people believe anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:37 AM
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Sex is natural. But apparently no longer fun... The logic of saying that sex is assigned at birth and thus a social construct is as sound as saying that the number of legs is assigned at birth and thus humans being bipedal is a social construct as evidenced by babies born with one or zero legs. This social constructivist logic of denying that an objective reality exists outside of our heads, thus that nature does exist, is somehow embraced by all social constructivists when it comes to using sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:30 AM
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And if the driver isn't their type they'll get #metooed fast...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:17 AM
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The primary purpose of the male in sexual reproduction is diversifying the gene pool. Thus it's no wonder that behaviors that tend to do so, ie promiscuity, is an important selected factor in males. Hence they can fuck anything or almost anything. In the other hand, it's not like humans are like fish. They need to invest in raising the kids for their survival. Since the female human spends most energy into making a child, she has more interest into securing a stable and supporting environment. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:11 AM
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Is it this one? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20049519/ There was a statistically significant gender difference in the agreement between self-reported and genital measures, with men (r = .66) showing a greater degree of agreement than women (r = .26).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:57 AM
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It's fine that men want to live in filth. We don't. Knowing how filthy women's bathrooms are, I can tell you this is a myth women repeat to themselves. It's not because you want more throw pillows that you're cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:12 PM
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I can say from experience falling into this cohort of men...that is almost certainly untrue. I don't know a single wealthy man who isn't dating someone in their same educational, income, or at least intelligence bracket - and you can't attribute that purely to social circles because many of these couples met through online dating. Well, that's because you don't knows George Clooney. I guess you don't mingle in high a sphere as you thought. https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/sarah-…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:05 PM
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You would think that since they are the ones that are in the trenches too that they would show a bit more understanding and sympathy. Men are not a class. History has shown it enough. And that's why the very premise of feminism is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:17 AM
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We agree about the app. But they've become the main framework where men and women meet, especially in the US since there people tend to have activities separated by sex. If the only framework is meant to make you unsuccessful at fulfilling a goal, it's no surprise that more and more people aren't reaching this goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:01 AM
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Men fight for things worth fighting. If men of your generation aren't willing to fight for anything you women have to offer, it's because you offer nothing worth fighting for, much less die for. And still you complain...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:58 AM
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If apps were really for meeting people, and then to be deleted, and not to keep you on them, they would do a time match: Men and women would be offered 1 profile a day to match. That's 365 people a year. Of course, you'd need a proper match making algorithm, and not those current fish hooks. With one profile a day, people would start making better profile and think more carefully. Raising the cost of entry in time spent would alleviate most problems of current apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:25 AM
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It's not to normalize violence against men. It's a red herring about those in power, who then promote their sisters and daughters. Wow, now the duchess is in power and not the duke. Meet the new boss, same as the old one.
/r/MensRights28/11/21 10:30 PM
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That's exactly what was said. It wasn't "Can he contribute his fair share?" It's "Can he support me and my kids so I don't have to do it myself." The man is valued for what he does and the next demand is that he value you for who you are. You get to be valued for who you are but fuck him, his value rests first and foremost on what he does. Rule for me but not for thee. Women's double standards at work right there for everyone to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:40 AM
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You're confusing contribute and support. Demanding that males contribute is perfectly normal. Demanding that males support is ok, but the gall of asking he supports, ie use him as a convenient tool for fulfilling your wants and needs, and at the same time considering scandalous that he does the same (he uses you to fulfill his wants and needs) is quite the double standard. Rule for thee but not for me. Men being used for convenience by women: ok. The other way around: scandalous oppression! That…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:36 AM
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Make sense for women. They want to be helped but not to help. Rule for thee but not for me. THAT'S the main issue with modern women. They lament at the consequences whose causes they cherish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:29 AM
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Money : would he be able to support a family? Pursuit : is he really into me? Will he go out of his way for what I want or am I a convenient option This is hilarious. The first question is "Is he a convenient option for me by being able to support me and my kids? if yes good." and the second question is "Am I a convenient option to him? If yes, then not good." Women and consistency, not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:19 PM
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But you are actively not dating in MGTOW so in other words the lice are gone. That's incorrect. Many MGTOW still date to have sex. To each their OWN way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:14 PM
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No it is still rape..... nonconsensual sex. (...) Just cuz it was legal does not change the characteristics of it that makes it rape. sorry but no, rape is a legal qualification of an act, like murder. It is not the act itself, like killing. Nothing is "obviously" rape just like not all killings are "obviously" murders. For example, France highest court decreed that rape can only be penetration of the victim, and thus voided a rape conviction of a woman who had non consensual sex with her 13 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:26 PM
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Do women complain about men and their sites for no reason? What happened to the MGTOW sub vs. the FDS... Oh yeah, women complained well enough. ​ Let this be a reminder for the many times male spaces churn out mass murderers, rapist, endless "revenge porn" against the consent of former partners. So the logic is the bad persons are men, so men are bad (the logical fallacy here is blatant). Every bad idea has been written in books, so books are bad. Etc. We can also go further with this stupid log…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:01 AM
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You guys cannot handle even 5 ish years at the most of gender tension slightly and no where near fully critiqued at men yet women had the shit end of the stick for hundreds and we should just shut up and be quiet about it? How long have you been living to have endured hundred of years of bad treatment? Oh yeah, you didn't. You endured nothing bad, and you justify the current treatment with convenient cherry picking of lives of people long dead. How convenient for you... It's like Israeli bombing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:55 AM
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I'd have more respect for men if they actually went their own way, instead of complaining about modern women. Lol. You are just ok with men supporting things that serve you, but god forbids they complain about it. It's women and the institutions that refuse to let men go their own way, yet you have the gall to then say that these guys don't go their own way. As long as men pay taxes and upheld with female centric rules, then men have every right to complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:54 AM
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What feminism would exist if men werent enforcing abbhorent laws and systems that benefit them only and hurt us? Lol. Men are not a social class. Feminism is completely aligned with the interest of the 1%, that's why it is promoted by every institution on Earth. Stop pretending that it's a cause for the little guys while you have whole government institutions devoted to its promotion and right from the start, it was a movement of bourgeois women wanting to be like their brothers to be just as an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:51 AM
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Yeah it makes zero sense, same as MGTOWS saying they don’t like women so they avoid them but will spend hours upon hours online bitching about seeing a woman outside breathing. Well, when you try to get rid of bed lice, you talk a lot about them. It doesn't mean you don't want to really want to avoid them. Your argument is silly and makes no sense. It's like saying that AA meetings are not really about stopping drinking because they keep talking about alcohol in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:39 AM
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And Obama drone killed folks by the hundreds, W airstriked kids by the thousands, and Bill Clinton had half a million kids in Iraq die of economic sanctions, which Madeleine Albright thought was "worth it". Yet folks who burned a few witches were moral degenerates while those modern people are the ones who have no issues with offing people across the globe... Sorry but the only difference is that people in the past had to commit their own violence and see it first hand. Virtue signaling modern h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:35 AM
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It was legal to rape your wife just up until the 1980s lmfao. Then it was not rape... Rape is a legal category. It's as silly to say that "crime was legal". The definition of rape has changed indeed, so why don't you point at the change instead of chanting some refrain that means nothing? In many countries, a woman cannot rape a man with PIV, just because. Women don't care yet they want us to care about the definition of rape in the past. Well look, at least be honest and just say that what matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:30 AM
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Indifference is not the same thing as hate. Women are indifferent towards you. Why wouldn’t they be? Not really. They are the first to say they have to change sidewalks and shit. Women keep on saying they are the target of "micro aggressions" and whatever. If truly women were indifferent, they would not center their whole political movement around reforming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:24 AM
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Men are expected to spend a decade plus working there ass off to be worthy of women who spent those ten years partying and loving only for themselves. If he does anything that isn’t about being a better tool for women, he is literally hated and insulted like homosexuals were in the past. Well said. I have yet to find any woman asking themselves what they have to offer to a man. They have a whole list of what their man should offer, but god forbids you ask them what they offer. Well "me", as if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:19 AM
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Because normalizing the degeneracy has a cost that is shifted onto the shoulders of people who want none of it. Even if you're in monk mode MGTOW, HR might come down hard on you because you don't mentor females, you spoke down to pretentious woman, etc. That is why. Unless you go off grid in Alaska, noone completely escapes the clutches of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:09 AM
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To borrow your analogy: the problem is that too many men think they're the $25k car. $25k isn't the average... a $1000 used car with serious body damage is. Yet women want the 25K car while they have only a couple of hundreds to spare. And turn their nose up on the 1K used car... "Because they're worth it". Well sorry by no. ​ Being average means nothing It gives you an idea of what to expect in most situation. ​ If the average man is a piece of shit, he's a piece of shit. Like women divorce rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:45 AM
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No. He wants women to be realistic about themselves. It does indeed that for FDS followers they'll have to think less of themselves. But that's because they have an inflated ego. It's funny how TRP tells what to do to themselves (lift, etc.) to reap the rewards, while FDS tells women to act like they deserve the rewards and think they'll come. In the relationship field, if you are only interested in short term then fake it til you make it can work. But for long term it won't. TRP blames men for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:36 AM
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Top men don't want you in particular, because you don't have the characteristics of women wanted by HVM. So you can either accept it, like all men on Earth old enough accepted they wouldn't be with Claudia Schiffer (which is the joke in the movie Love actually). Or you can delude yourself that you will lock one of these guys by playing the haughty bitch, like you're all supermodels. The thing is, supermodels are attracting men in droves, not because they're haughty, but despite that, because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:24 AM
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Yet women keep chosing them, because tingles. And then end up on where are all the good men gone... They chose them!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:11 PM
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Men give money. That's already more than what women give.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:11 PM
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You think Bill Cosby fathered children through rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:07 PM
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I think you overestimate how much men care about women achieving sexual pleasure. Good for them if they can, but it's not like they care either way. Actually, most men prefer women who do like sex. That you equate liking sex with whoring around is pretty telling. Men don't like wonen who whore around. They have nothing against women who like sex, quite the contrary. It's equating both that is a big red flag....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:57 PM
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Lol. Historically it's the Catholic Church that included mandatory consent of the spouses for a valid marriage. You're obviously very ignorant...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:43 PM
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A lot of rapists technically don't have to rape. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:43 AM
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In his famous autobiography...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:42 AM
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Stop pretending as if women had much choice in their mate selection before the feminist movement. Lol. But really lol. When you see how the Catholic church pushed for marriage to be a sacrament in the 11th century that needed the consent of both spouses, pretending that the feminist movement made this happened betrays your pure ignorance of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:41 AM
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Maybe you should say that everything bad happening to women is a payback for what Eve has done... And then laugh.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 09:31 AM
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Presuming that the discrepancy is due to conquest is really silly. When you see the total disappearance of some previous population after the conquest of Europe by Indo Europeans or that of the Americas after Europeans, thinking that conquerors usually keep the kids of their raping is really being ignorant of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:28 AM
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Sorry but no. Lowly soldiers rape. If it was that, mass raping would have given reproductive success to more men. But it's not that. Unless you're going to argue that kings and celebrities are constantly raping. As if no bitch ever threw herself onto a conqueror, Cleopatra style.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:25 AM
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Lol. As if Genghis Khan had to rape anyone. His warriors no doubt, but he had busloads of concubines that were willing enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:22 AM
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maybe some hand or oral stuff. Most of the world really have a hard time understanding Americans about what they consider having sex mean. "I did not have sex with that woman" wasn't just Clinton weaseling out... The puritanical thinking sometimes join the islamist thinking of girls wanting only anal to still be virgin for their future husband... Like what?? These legalities shenanigans are just really WTF for lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:07 AM
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Yeah. Women seem to miss the point. It's not whether you wait or not for sex that matters, either is fine for men. It's applying different standards with different men that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:00 AM
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You can say that if Moses and the rest of the Hebrews could wait until they were adults to be circumcised, so can your son. He'll decide for himself once he's an adult.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 11:59 PM
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We have a bit different libidos, so the compromise for us is to have it daily. I make a point to save some energy/mood for intimacy, but he's understanding and not pushy at times when I'm too stressed out for it though. Shagging daily is a compromise?! How old are you? 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:19 AM
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The age statistics is due to the fact that it's now lower class women who marry young. There's a confounding variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:41 AM
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It's the same thing. Feminism was pushed forth to double consumers and workers. Feminists have always been upper class women. That's why they're bitching about CEOs positions but not brick layers...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:38 AM
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Dude, if you think that most people are now forced to be in two income families, you should get out of your rich ghetto. She has no choice but to work unless she can marry a man in the top 15%. Women and capitalists wanted that since women working doubled the work force and thus lowered salaries. 50 years ago, a blue collar worker could support a family of 5 one salary. He barely can support himself now. And you think women of his social class have the option to not work? Meanwhile, all the prod…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:35 AM
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But can they INVEST in several women at once? Maybe wealthy ones can, but I think it’s easy to tell when you’re not the only significant other in your partner’s life. It's pretty telling that for you investing in someone is monetary since you acknowledged that wealthy men can. Well since lots of women are aiming at the same small group of men, then yes, those guys have no issue at putting you in a rotation. They'll be dining at a fancy restaurant anyway, they only need to rotate the company. Fur…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:20 AM
2

I understand that but if the man pursued you and proposed to you at 30, you already know he finds not-youthful women attractive as well because he found you attractive and you were not-so-youthful when you met. Good lord. Your logic doesn't add up. If I'm 35 and pursue you at 30, you're right to think that I can find 30 years old women attractive. You can't conclude from that that I didn't find 25 years old women more attractive, and it's not gonna protect you once you're 40 if I indeed love 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:01 AM
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It's because they literally don't notice the bottom 80%. For them, Men are only the men in power. That's why they came up with "patriarchy". They just don't see the trash collector or the homeless guy as men. If guys were whining like women about "it's dehumanizing" just because of how others see you, they'd never finish. Thankfully, men understand how silly this concept is. But women who are on the receiving end of how they act with most men really do not stand it. Double standard and usual I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:47 AM
1

Indeed. If it requires work, it's not a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:41 AM
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The thing is, you don't seem to understand that men can pursue several women at once. At least those who can. They'll wait for sex because they're having it with another woman right now. You'll just be scheduled for later. Women can't seem to be able to see things from another perspective than theirs, and then wonder why things they don't want keep happening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:39 AM
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Nah. Women liking to see men being vulnerable is only true with qualifiers. Women like it for mainly two reasons: First it's if an otherwise strong man shows vulnerability, then him showing her that he isn't always strong means that she gets a special treatment compared to others. She feels special. She doesn't need to see that constantly though. Second, if it's in order to use that against him later. Since women don't really have the option of solving things by physical force, which many women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:01 AM
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But but but GenDEr Is a SOciaL cONstRUct! There's also the study that shows that women's tears decrease the testosterone level of men... https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2011.2
/r/MensRights23/11/21 02:23 AM
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Because men are not a social class. Never have been. There's no such thing as male solidarity. That's a feminist fantasy.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 01:14 AM
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She wants 100% of the decision but certainly not 100% of the consequences of said decision. Women. Never. Accountable.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 07:50 AM
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Circular reasoning. And the evidence that women aren't better at raising children is the fate of children of single mothers vs. those of single fathers. You failed to justify why women suddenly have to stop working just so they can stick DVDs in front of their toddlers. Sorry but no. Women are NOT off the hook to provide their share, especially since it's women who refused to be assigned that role and demanded they be treated equally. Or probably, as usually, women just want double standards wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:33 AM
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Why should a man support alone the kid until 3 or 6. The woman does nothing in the meantime? No way. She's on the hook for half. These discussions show how women want to be kept. They don't really want equality. They want special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:59 AM
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It's more like an excuse women use to use the man as a doll to dress. If it's meant with good intention and falls under the guy's taste, I see the no harm in it. Like, I will choose the wine because I know better. It's because most straight men don't give a shit about fashion that women think many are unable to dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:08 AM
1

Waving dollar bills work well enough then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:34 AM
1

Of course there is such a thing as "normal". Too many women around think they are so much not like the other girls I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:33 AM
1

It's interesting how women are obsessed about what men think of them... yet of course pretend they aren't. Men just care about facts and actions and thus sex is evidence of caring enough. But that's not good enough for women. Alright then, but you have yet to show why men should follow women's criteria on that matter rather than their own. Sure, biologically, an erection and ejaculation have very low threshold, so much so that they can happen involuntarily in sleep. But understand that if men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:45 AM
0

If your partner's income is needed to sustain your standard, then it means that without it your standard would decrease. Therefore your partner's income would indeed bolster your standard of living!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:20 AM
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It's the same thing. It's women trying to have people believe their fake narrative. They think everyone is a 3 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:17 AM
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The thing is, you opportunely decide that what fits with your family is oh so randomly what bolster your standard of living. How convenient of your family. Proust made fun of that female trait a century ago already: (...) the falsehood of the Guermantes young ladies, preaching the virtue of intellect, barely admitting of anyone's questioning the equality of mankind, all of which ended at a given point in the same result as if they had professed the opposite principles, that is to say in marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:38 AM
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It is indeed the annoying part. Not that they do, not even that they tell themselves some fairytale to justify their own behavior and try to look moral instead of nakedly materialistic and opportunistic. The real annoying part is that women pretend men should believe women's bullshit about female hypergamy. Women really think they can bend reality by talking and that noone would notice.... Yet we know. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:26 AM
2

Why should men bother attracting women again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:20 AM
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Then do like men do: earn it. I'll allow the 4 months maternity leave for each kid. The rest of the time it's just as on you as on the father yet somehow you girls act like he has to be the sole support not just for the 4 to 12 months after the birth, but for 18 years. Sorry but nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:17 AM
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The social and economic ladder are not the same on the sense that the economic ladder is only part of the social one. And the main one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:14 AM
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Nobody thinks talking on Reddit will prevent you from dating who you want. It'll just expose the lies we tell ourselves about the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:12 AM
0

There's no such thing as "starting" metabolism. Just hydrate in the morning and eat at lunch and dinner. This actually makes it intermittent fasting if you need to lose weight. Normally, women lose their weight from pregnancy during breastfeeding, ie, in a few months. Unless they gain the insane weight they consider normal in the US. 10-12 kgs max WITH baby is normal yet in the US they gain way more and everyone is pretending it's normal...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:06 AM
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No snacking and that's enough for most people. Eat slowly at regular hours. Skip breakfast..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:20 AM
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Just as it's sociologically defined as well as defined in the TRP side bar: it's the tendency by women to want a man from a higher status than themselves. It's engraved in every fairytale ever: princes do marry shepherdesses, but princesses never marry shepherds. And if they do, he is revealed as the secret son of a king. This shows how even if intellectually hypergamy can be condemned, it's considered as inevitable. Men know that. Women coat their hypergamy with lots of word salad like he must …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:56 AM
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You're misunderstanding the concept of AWALT. It refers to hypergamy. It literally means ALL women are like that. They are it at different level and they keep under control more or less so sure these tendencies manifest differently in different women at different times, but it still is present in all of them. One hundred percent of them. Just like all men want to stick their dick in something. This doesn't mean they all want to do it all the time in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:16 AM
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You didn't even link a study, you linked a blog post. If we can't review the study itself then this is basically meaningless. If you knew how to read, you'd have seen the link to the original study. I'm thus not confident in your ability to review an academic paper since you can't even read a blog post that has a section called "Original Scientific Article: " and yet you complain of the lack thereof....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:07 AM
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Sorry but men and women perceive cleanliness equally. https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2019/dirtiness-perceived-cleanliness-sustained-women-study-reveals/ Women pursue it more on their own volition and spend more time at it because there's no physical task that men don't do faster than women. If you have to apply force to scrub, who do you think will be faster, all else being equal? The stronger one. Men can wipe a table without having to go around it, they have longer reach. They don't need s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:17 AM
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The problem is that it's always counted in time spent and not in task done. Men are more efficient around the house as evidenced by the fact that men living alone spend less time doing house chores than women living alone. It's not hard to understand that you need less time cleaning when you're taller. And contrary to what is being said here, men and women do not differ in slobbiness. They have in average the same judgement on what needs to be cleaned or not. Yet this discrepancy is counted agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:59 AM
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Using their brain is seen as detrimental for females hence they would rather not,and thus when they have to, it's by definition exploited labor. Basically, when male does something for female, it's considered that he does it for his benefit. When female does something for male, by definition it cannot be for her own benefit, so it's considered emotional labour exploited by the male. These concepts are just begging the question: anything that benefits a female is by definition benefiting the male…
/r/MensRights15/11/21 09:25 AM
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That's exactly what the article say: supposedly it increases women's so called emotional labour.
/r/MensRights15/11/21 05:40 AM
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Well, playing by society's rules. If you cannot win, then don't play. If men cannot benefit by following social expectations of how they should behave, then they should shrug off these expectations and do only beneficial things for them individually. This means treating jobs, women, etc. as disposable since playing by the rules means they'll be the ones being disposed of. It's a giant game of the prisoners dilemma. Once you get shafted repeatedly, then you act accordingly. You may not win, but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:58 AM
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It's not about man good woman bad. The moral angle is really annoying. It's about recognizing the odds of winning in a game. For men it's the lottery. So yes some do win, but a large part doesn't. And the legal and social framework doesn't even acknowledge the situation let alone offer any solution. So the end game is for the work horses of society to stop being the slaves since they don't get any benefits from it. As for those who do profit from the situation, the least they can do is recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:28 AM
1

Minors criminal records are always automatically expunged in France when they become adults.
/r/MensRights14/11/21 01:31 AM
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Anyone who was young before social media experienced how people were treated ridiculously differently if they had the tiniest of spotlight shoned onto them. Now everyone can have an Instagram account, but back in the days, being on stage of a local band or troupe was enough to make you seen very differently by women. I personally saw that in the 90s. Going from "I have to go talk to girls" to "girls come talk to me" just because I dabbed into improv and students theater clubs. And those who coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:02 AM
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She's a minor and a woman. She'll have a stern talking to as a punishment. No kidding but in France it's something judges can do. It's called "un rappel à la loi" - reminding the law. When guilty of something, the judge can decide to tell you to not do it again and remind you the law as a punishment. It's probably the best solution in this case but I doubt such a display of forces would have been displayed for a missing teenage boy.
/r/MensRights13/11/21 12:51 AM
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The problem with feminists is that their own ego are not satisfied with what everybody's eyes can see: if you don't include reproduction, men are superior to women because there's nothing a woman can do that a man cannot but the opposite isn't true. And thus the only way to consider equality in practice is to focus on the role in reproduction. And that's objectification. Feminism is a front for the upper class women to play victim, but if their goal is taken at face value, then it reduces women …
/r/MensRights13/11/21 12:44 AM
3

And most women are really bad at estimating height. So they just want a head above.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:21 AM
2

Being the provider doesn't necessarily mean providing 100%. More like the majority. Most women don't want to have no income but they don't want to have to work. They're willing to pay for coffee while he pays for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:19 AM
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You're basically asking how can dieting exist if hunger is real. Well, it does. It takes self-control and discipline. Which is very lacking in many modern females since those have been accustomed to have their wishes fulfilled just because "they're worth it". They're the best consumers and thus the pandering towards them is very real in a capitalist society. Loyalty exists if women are able to keep their hypergamic urge under control, just like it exists if males can keep their sexual urge under…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:52 AM
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Men, who have admittedly had little to no success with women actively saying “don’t listen to women, watch what they do,” and then they only look at Instathots and slutty 18-year-old girls to “prove” their view about women being shalllow gold diggers.. That's quite the selective reading. There's plenty of Chads saying don't listen to what women say but look at what they do. Just read TRP! Second,a big chunk of guys in the rage stage aren't looking after Instathots. They've been divorce raped and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:21 AM
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The red pill definition is not the same as the sociological definition, pick a lane. You mean, the lane that can read? Noone on TRP pretends that hypergamy is based on dimorphism. Just have a read and come back once you're done: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/ It's written right there: hypergamy is the tendency for women to seek alpha males. Definition of alpha males: Socially dominant. I suspect you're arguing with an strawman, while c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:58 PM
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I don’t have any complaint about the sociological definition and usage of the term “hypergamy”. You know, the real definition by academics who know what they’re talking about rather than internet ding dongs navel-gazing that straight women are hypergamous because they date men with typical male physical characteristics. Well, you just want to think these are different, but TRP definition is right on the money: women want men of higher social status, that's hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:58 PM
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Basically a big part of red pill “hypergamy” just involves women being female instead of male Hypergamy is a accepted concept in social science. It is based on social class, ie educational and income level. Here, some reading https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/36/3/351/5688045
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:05 AM
2

They don't seem to realize that aging alone will take care of their appearance, health and life...
/r/MensRights08/11/21 08:47 AM
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Vanilla is one of the most complex and rich spice. It's the very opposite of boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:44 AM
5

You should try it in a Japanese unit bath. Much safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:36 AM
1

Technically, it's not by law, but by jurisprudence. The French law says that spouses obligate themselves to a "community of life". The constant refusal to have sex with your spouse has been found by the courts to be a reason for being at fault in divorces. So sex is not a legal obligation. Constant refusal is just found yo be a valid reason for divorcing. Of course feminists are against because they want marriage to be a one way street: whatever the woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:37 AM
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How are men made accountable for the exact same thing? What thing? Sleeping around? The difference is because having sex is a woman's decision, not a man's. Thus sleeping around for a woman is simple exercise of her will, which isn't hard. For a man, sleeping around necessitates skills to convince women to do so. Women often delude themselves into thinking it's the same for both genders because they compare between "sleeping with women" for men with "sleeping with hot guys" for women. They don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:56 AM
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It's obvious slutshaming. If you didn't find promiscuity shameful, it wouldn't factor into your view of her at all or impact your interest or lack thereof. This is the silliest argument. I don't think ugliness is shameful but guess what, it does impact my interest in her. Your bijective relation between interest and shame exactly shows OP's point: it is women who use shaming on other women, not men. And certainly not about sluts, which guys are always interested to be around as long as they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:28 AM
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You're confusing many things: shame and disrespect for example. Shaming someone is different from disrespecting someone. Guys don't respect sluts but sure don't shame them. Of course all this is hair splitting semantics for you, but sorry to say, the first step of proper thinking is to properly define what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:20 AM
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Nah. A slut is a woman who sleeps with a lot of guys, NOT anyone. A bitch is thus a slut who doesn't sleep with you. Men will slutshame bitches, but not sluts who sleep with them. Thus the issue for them isn't slutting in itself, but being rejected by a slut. And they will slutshame because they know that women, sluts included, are wary of their reputation, especially among women.Thus they use that because men know that bringing a woman's reputation down with other women matters to her. And it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:52 AM
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OP isn't denying that. But that's not slutshaming! It's called accountability. It's like saying to a friend who ordered lobster that he has to foot the bill to pay for it and not try to split the bill by pretending that everyone else also ordered lobster while all they had was fish sticks. It's not shaming because noone is saying that eating lobster is bad per se. It's about accountability. You ordered an expensive dish then well pay for it. Same thing with sluts. No shame to be one but please d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:41 AM
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The confessional is not public. It's done in secret to precisely not shame. Shame is a feeling felt in front of others. You're confusing shame and remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:35 AM
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Men don't get to brag Unfortunately for you, you're in no position, individually or collectively as part of the women group to decide what men get to brag about. Do yes, men do get to brag about it. And if you're not happy about it, either argue or ignore it. But positioning yourself as the arbiter of what can or cannot be done is going to be ruthlessly laughed out since you haven't demonstrated any valid reasons for you to be in that position. Again, you illustrate perfectly the very feminine t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:23 AM
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If you think that words can be dehumanizing, then it means that you think that your humanity is contingent upon other people's judgement and expression thereof. That probably pins you as a female considering how much more common it is for women to derive their self value on social judgement rather than on their inner self.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:17 AM
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Let's hear these instances of what you perceived as slutshaming in Western countries. Or are you talking about the Middle East?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:15 AM
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there's no other reason that men slutshame other than to dehumanize and devalue promiscuous women It's not because you're unable to conceive other reasons that there's none. It's funny how you think you know better how others think. Men appear to slutshame when the slut is not a slut enough to sleep with them. So they don't really slut shame, they use slut as an insult because they know women don't like to be called that. If you can't understand the difference, please still try to think that thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:12 AM
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Women will usually publicly slutshame each other due to internalized misogyny Women's rule #1: it's never their fault. No accountability. (men hate sluts, so i hate sluts too, that will make men like me and respect me!). Except as OP said, men like sluts. They just don't want to marry them. But they welcome them to suck their dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:07 AM
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Shaming and judging are not the same. Guys dont shame sluts for being sluts. At worse, they shame them for not being slut enough if they, the sluts, happen to not want to sleep with them. But even men who sleep with and enjoy the company of sluts, do judge them as being sluts and thus unworthy of being in a relationship with them. Shaming others is a female discursive tactic. You can see it here by seeing who throws shaming terms like "incel"... Males rarely use such language because they know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:02 AM
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There's a difference though. You get to choose whether you want to put yourself in such situation, by either marrying or declaring yourself as dad. Married men have 5 years from birth to sue to remove paternity ties with the child. So do your due diligence and if you still get saddled with a kid who's not yours, then considering how many opportunities to opt out you got, then you deserve it.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 04:07 AM
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Wombs have innate value. Men do not. You comparing two different things. A reproductive organ and a person. Men have value because they can get the woman if he wants to, as exemplified by the rape of the Sabine women. Because they're weaker physically, women must rely on social rules only to prevail. What they often fail to notice is that attacking social rules doesn't always mean they'll be replaced by better social rules. Sometimes it results in the absence of social rules. Then, might makes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:05 PM
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In a word: men know that talking shit can end up with a fist in the mouth. Women always assume they're immune to it so they never know when to stop talking shit, and they get all shocked when the ass whooping happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:54 PM
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Nah. It really is an issue in places where the mother declares the father, and that's not every country in the West..
/r/MensRights02/11/21 12:35 PM
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Paternity fraud can only exist in some legal system where the mother declares the father. In places where a man has to declare himself as the father to be the father (either upon birth or by marriage), there's few paternity fraud since women have no say in it except if they sue. The easiest way to stop paternity fraud is by making the putative father the only person able to declare his paternity. Legal recourse can be a thing to prevent fuckery. That would solve most of the cases...
/r/MensRights02/11/21 12:33 PM
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If you should put out from the third date, then it means you shouldn't put out before. I guess you can date 10 guys twice, 5 guys thrice, and put out with 5. That will do... Dating is a silly American concept anyway. How in Earth could you decide to sleep with someone after having met three times. Just socialize for a while and then if it all goes well, put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:01 AM
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And there's indeed more choice for women nowadays since there's no more unwanted pregnancy that are brought to term, or a tiny number compared with before, thanks to contraception and abortion. When you factor in the share of women who are infertile, and the share of lesbians, the fact that there is 80 to 90% of women who nowadays have children shows that women DO want children for the overwhelming majority of them. It's not surprising since reproduction is a biological imperative. So when a chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:10 AM
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A woman is childless if she's never given birth. The fact that her kid died young or lived to a 100 is irrelevant. There was a bigger share of women in the past that remained childless than there is nowadays. Contrary to popular belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:46 AM
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Hum, yes. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db68.htm#1919191 "Women born in 1910 were almost twice as likely to be childless as women born in 1935." And if you looked at older stats, you'll see that it's incorrect to think that nowadays less women have children than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:39 AM
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Bragging about needing to pay for sex is a weird flex, but ok Everyone pays for sex. It's just a question of recognizing the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:29 AM
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For info, there used to be a just as high if not a higher share of women (nuns, spinsters, etc.) without kids back in the days than nowadays. The fact that most women have a child in a society with contraceptive and no moral opposition to kids born out of wedlock actually shows that most women do want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:13 AM
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And such argument is patently wrong: it's the most useful men, the farmers, the laborers, etc. who get the most abuse. I know how to live without a hotshot banker, less so without a redneck farmer.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 01:59 AM
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Upload it to imgur if you want people to see it...
/r/MensRights30/10/21 01:50 AM
0

Guess why Japanese porn is popular outside Japan too...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:24 AM
0

This is true for animals in the animal kingdom as well; Male animals will literally fight to the death just to get a few minutes of pussy. It's not. You should see how female felines in heat behave. Women don't get in heat, it's the evolution trap for the males: by being unable to know when the woman is fertile, the man must stick around to ensure he is the one siring her. You are taking as one phenomenon what is two: females wanting to mate and males wanting to mate. Males compete with other ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:04 AM
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Nobles didn't predate government. I don't know where you studied history but if there are nobles, there's a government. As for your claim that women work outside home to bring in money since time immemorial, it's ridiculous. Money isn't that old. Most women, just like men, worked to get staple food.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:42 AM
1

Vet before getting on a first date. Of course, that would exclude OLD but that's the old fashioned way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:49 AM
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However, relationship satisfaction of the couple commonly declines as soon as the child is born [26,27,63]. Furthermore, fathers show an increase in depressive symptoms during the first phase after birth and a residual amount of symptomatology over the first seven years of their child’s life [64–66]. We argue that during this time, when the child needs a lot of the parental attention and the relationship satisfaction of the couple is challenged, men are at an increased risk for infidelity. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:46 PM
2

I'm not talking about Ancient Rome. I'm talking about contemporary Europe and America.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:59 PM
2

Even though you can pull more than one woman, being in a relationship with several would mean having to put up with some shit from each of them. Pussy isn't worth that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:19 AM
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Very nice writing. However I think that even though porn doesn't affect the level of males sex drive, it does impact HOW this sex drive is expressed. Until online porn, I doubt any male including horny teenagers thought they wanted to ejaculate on a woman's face. Similarly, the sudden dislike or even horror for pubic hair on women by men is something that appeared in the late 90s and is very prevalent in the US and among younger males, millennials and gen z. Prior to that, noone was interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:20 AM
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Any serious historical publication. Here is a decent overview: http://serious-science.org/sex-in-the-middle-ages-6345 The Church taught that the purpose of sex is reproduction, although, they didn’t forbid, for example, married couples from having sex after menopause. Reproduction is not the only thing that made sex permissible, but it was a big thing. You can also read some fabliaux. https://www.britannica.com/art/fabliau
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:14 AM
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You still don't realize that poor women are much less likely to get married in the first place so the likeliness to be a stay at home WIFE for poor and rich can be similar yet not concerned the same proportion of the total population from these social classes because more rich women are WIVES than poor women. Few rich women are single mothers while a lot of poor women are. Therefore married women in each of these classes do NOT represent the same proportion and thus an equal likeliness to be sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:11 AM
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No. Whiteness is decreed as being rich just so you can fight for racial justice rather than social one. Now if you only kept that shit in the US I wouldn't mind, but Americans export all their bad ideas...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:03 AM
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To say that whiteness means elite is ID politics nonsense. Are trailer parks in the US filled with bipoc? That said, feminism is indeed just a discourse to make upper class women the new proletariat, in discourse, in order to keep the servant class docile by telling those poor schmucks that they're the oppressor, not the duchesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:07 AM
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Sure but feminists will have to shut up to do that or at least tone it down. They'll be like most former hippies of the 60s: thinking of themselves as counterculture against power while being boomers nimby with three investment accounts. The definition of the hypocrite.
/r/MensRights24/10/21 01:20 AM
1

Do you not realize that the household income IS the husband income when the wife is a stay at home wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:09 AM
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Among households making less than 25k and having children, what's the relative share of women who are married and those who are single? Household making less than 25k are about 15% of households and single mothers 5% and they're more likely poor. Hence what's the size of those two population? Because the SAHM with less than 25k can be more likely but the poor marry less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:10 AM
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It's extraordinary how the oppression narrative is so strong that one has to remove any form of agency to women on order to fit the "they've been oppressed". For info, it was the scholars of the day who in the middle ages saw women as being sexually insatiable. Sex and sexuality were certainly not seen as sin during the Middle ages. They read Saint Paul. I don't know what silly book this quote is from but the reasoning of saying sex was seen as sin because immorality was condemned and immorality…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:00 AM
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Lol. The 18th century was way more liberal than the 19th. And thinking that the whole of Europe was like England is just laughable. In the middle ages, discourse on women sexuality was very different from what you seem to think since they were seen as the voracious and insatiable gender...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:31 AM
1

That's the question they never want to answer because it doesn't relate to their navel. For them it's a given and they act like it is for all, so they don't have to argue why men should please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:28 AM
1

Confusing 19th century victorian mores with the whole past is quite the stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:25 AM
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Precisely because the choice for middle class women was removed because it's now near impossible to do so on one income. As for low income, labeling SAHM single mothers on welfare is a bit disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:58 AM
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You have your history wrong. Women and children were workers in factory in the 19rh and on the farm before and then. Feminists think the history of the upper class applies to most since their whole discourse is to further the welfare of the upper class women (as if women CEO will raise wages more than men...)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:26 PM
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Lol. Divorce became a thing once feminism took root. And now poverty is the only option for many and you have still have to work, or purposefully exclude fathers from the family unit. To great results! But this ensures there's always enough desperate people to want to work in the servant class. The real reason of feminism: make poor women support rich women instead of other poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:20 PM
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it has very little to do with the fact that being a homemaker is less valuable than having a career. Not every woman is an upper middle class one with a career. You don't have a career as a receptionist or cleaning chicken in a factory. It's telling how feminism is for the higher classes when they present alternatives that are only available to the top brackets. So too bad for the low income women: you won't be a homemaker because feminism ensured you have to do low paying work that make the lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:14 PM
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When marriage became a sacrament in the Catholic church around 1000AD, that's when enforced monogamy started in Europe. Aristocrats started being in trouble for having two wives. That's when enforced monogamy started in Europe and it lasted about a millennium. Polygamy has stayed in many areas in the world and thus there's no issue in these areas with some men ending up without wives. It's a consequence of polygamy that not everyone will get one, or not at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:30 AM
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Well, guess why humans have twice as many female ancestors as males? At one point at the beginning of the neolithic, it was 17 women reproducing for one man reproducing. Enforced monogamy curved that tendency really hard, but for the past 50 years, this has relaxed and now baby daddies are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:20 AM
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Like that's obviously the reason as opposed to maturity, getting older and being busier. You say getting older and more mature to paint a positive spin onto the fact but this does not refute the fact. And TRP would agree about getting older: it's hitting the wall that decreases the possibilities and suddenly "no more games" enters the chat. Fun for the fuckboi but not for the beta schmuck who follows. It's better for you but assuming it's better for him is telling how women cannot conceive that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:44 AM
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Retroactively explaining things with little to no basis in actual scientific and peer reviewed evidence is a foolish endeavour What's are you talking about? Are you claiming there's no such thing as evolutionary psychology as an academic discipline?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:35 AM
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I think you're delusional to think that the pool of available men is the same for you when you're 24 than 34... As for Chad coming out of his divorce, either he'll have learned his lesson, or you're signing up for being a step mum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:33 AM
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Everything you think about women is insane and generalizing. Comprehension is generalisation into meaningful categories. Objecting to generalization per se is advocating for ignorance and experiencing the world through feelings. In a word, like a woman. Because your feelings as a compass is making sure you're always right but it excludes logic and accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:43 AM
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You missing the point: you're not going to get the same man to settle down with you at 24 than at 34. The fact that you can find A man was never in doubt and it's not what the wall is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:40 AM
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That is not what the wall is. The wall is the age at which women who relied on their looks to attract men can no longer do so and thus need to rely on other traits to be attractive. And had they realized that earlier, they could have compounded these extra traits and their physical attributes. That age is usually 28-32. Women usually rationalized this with "no more playing games" but that's because they're unable to keep playing these games because the new comers are now better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:38 AM
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Re 1. You're misrepresenting the argument of she doesn't do for me what she did for others. It's not about she tried once and didn't like it. It's about she blew her ex every morning for 4 months until he dumped her but now she pretends she doesn't like to suck dick. That's different with I once tried anal and never did again and don't plan on doing it thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:32 AM
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Lol. You're saying exactly what TRP says: be attractive if you want match online, use game offline. Your wording is different but that's precisely TRP: make her want you with your game and frame, what you've described as a neutral becoming subjectively attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:28 AM
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Outliers don't nullify a trend! Trying to recognize patterns is to try to make things comprehensible. You'd be surprised at how few general traits are necessary to identify individuals. Women always pretending they're so unique shows how unfamiliar they are with trying to understand the world. This lack of understanding of general traits and what that means is also why they fail to realize that treating a preference as a necessary characteristics is way stricter. Hence the I'd prefer 6ft tall 6 …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:19 AM
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You don't nullify a trend with a few outliers. Too many people don't understand that it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:09 AM
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Lol at wanting causal experiment in human reproduction. Do you want a doctor Mengele? Quite a few sciences are purely observational (astronomy or sociology). It doesn't mean they're less credible than experimental sciences, which by the way technically never ascribe a causal link, but only reject a null hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:06 AM
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You don't seem to understand that a big part if not the major part of evolutionary pressure for humans is done, not by natural selection, but by reproduction selection. The tail of the male peacock gives him no advantage for himself, but gives him an edge at reproducing because the female considers it as a sign of strength. This means that it's the compound effect of women's choice that drive the standards of which male gets to reproduce. Men can counteract that by social organisation and enforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:01 AM
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It was created because men were frustrated with their inability to get women. The frustration came from those who had believed women about what women want. There's inevitably a generalization bit when one speaks of trend, you don't focus on outliers. TRP is an accurate map, which by definition cannot be as detailed as the world it portrays. And it's better to have an accurate map at a large scale than to follow the wrong directions given by someone who then blames you for being lost. It's like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:13 AM
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The dude pretends to have found good advice on FDS! Mmmmmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:50 PM
1

The housewife primary role is to bear and take care of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:52 PM
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So far from being the main reason then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:13 PM
1

In that hypothetical case, I/we won't have kids. It's simple. So what's the use of the house husband again? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:42 AM
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I'm sure all women can do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:12 AM
2

The question is what if YOU don't want lost income since obviously it's important. Because guess what. Women want kids and pamper them but they don't want to lose any income in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:48 AM
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And explain how he can suddenly make up for the lost income?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:20 AM
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He cannot birth the baby though. It's inescapable. If you want kids, you'll want to stop working for at least a few weeks, which is then often stretched to months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:22 AM
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higher violence rates causes higher divorce rates You barely pointed at a correlation and now you're already saying it's a causation... Do you know that murders peak with ice cream sales? Ever heard of a confounded variable? You're a long way to prove your correlation, let alone a causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:33 AM
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Stop painting American culture as Western. If you went to Finland or Paris, you'll see that people there don't have the fake friendly demeanor typical of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:57 AM
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The reason is simple: bisexual men cannot be leveraged with pussy as much as heterosexual ones. That's what straight women instinctively dislike about these men: they know their pussy won't have as much power as they think it should. They ascribe that to various ick factors, usually stuff they're unable to rationally justify, because they don't want to admit to themselves that how much leverage their pussy gets over a man matters for them to enter in relationship with said man. The power of puss…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:00 AM
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You're consistent if you don't accept a dick in your mouth. If yes, pretending that what turns you off in kissing someone who's had a dick in their mouth is that they had a dick in their mouth isn't consistent... It's probably something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:52 AM
1

A lesbian offering practical dating advice to a straight male? That's a silly assumption. Women like their gay male friends because they often share the same interests. Not because the gay guys have any clue on how to attract straight males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:00 AM
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Women outnumber men from the age of 25. Also they partner with older men too. So if you look at the same age range for men and women, the women may partner in the range above and men in the range below. If they don't do so in the same proportion then one sex will out partner the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:50 AM
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Government protects women because they're women. Men don't reach high positions because they're men, but because they're competent at it.
/r/MensRights16/10/21 12:19 AM
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Feminists fail to understand that unlike them, and even as studies show, unlike women in general, men do not have an in group preference, as evidenced by you know, the entirety of human history. Feminists project their female in group preference and fail to even conceive that men don't do that. So they came up with the all encompassing patriarchy that explains everything and its opposite. Convenient. Meanwhile, the poor woman is persuaded that the one who oppresses her is her husband, because sh…
/r/MensRights15/10/21 12:31 PM
1

Or he's going to treat her like a pet he loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:20 AM
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Women argue to their feelings. And as we all know, those change. So if she feels it's empowering, then it is. If she feels it's degrading, then it is. Her feelings dictate the argument.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 03:47 AM
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Smarter thing would have been to keep the dad and had two kids.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/21 03:49 AM
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The thing isn't to tell girls not to attend college. The thing is to teach girls about their natural hypergamy and tendency to screen off some guys when they're 24 that they would pay to marry when they're 34. It's all about teaching delayed gratification to girls in a world that pushes them towards instant gratification and portrays delayed gratification as oppression. But nothing great happens to you without learning delayed gratification. Otherwise you're an adult with a toddler's brain. The …
/r/TheRedPill12/10/21 03:47 AM
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But ‘human touch’ isn’t exclusive to wives or girlfriends, so it has little relevance. That's some major logical flaw here. It's not because X isn't exclusively related to Y that Y has no or little relevance to X.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:20 AM
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People don't fare much better without human touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:27 AM
12

So having the choice of only food you don't like is the same as having nothing to eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:38 AM
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No, he doesn’t have to buy her gifts if he doesn’t want to. Is anyone saying he has to? It's an analogy. If the boyfriend says shopping isn't his thing and she finds out he used to spend hours shopping with his ex, she will rightfully doubt the statement. Try this: "My boyfriend never buys me gifts, but I learned that he showered gifts on his previous girlfriends, all the ten of them" and see how people will judge the boyfriend. Nobody will say, "oh well, he changed his mind about buying gifts t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:41 AM
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She's trying to pretend that having anal with the whole football team was just a necessary learning step and so that's why the engineer who simps for her now that she's 30 won't get to stick his dick in her butt. In a word, she says women are really slow learners and men should respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:32 AM
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She doesn't want to do it for beta. You left that last part out but beta understands it all right and thus may leave, which is unfortunate when in need of an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:29 AM
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Except you're next gonna say that the only way for you to know that he loves you is for him to buy you present, since it's his modus operandi...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:27 AM
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Nobody demands it. That's what you seem to misunderstand. Men just takes this as evidence that she was more attracted to their ex. Then everyone draws their own conclusion from there. But women must be covert about their double strategy alpha fucks beta bucks. They understand the risk of it being uncovered. But most women don't seem to realize that beta will buck all they want if they also get to fuck like the alpha. But for that, they'd have to consider him other than just a resource provider. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:24 AM
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He offered gifts to his crush but got ignored so he shouldn't offer gifts any longer... Ok, I get the logic. Oh no? You mean that when it comes to men, they have to do things they don't like for the women (shopping with them, meeting her mother, etc). This whole thing is about women wanting to absolve themselves for being hoes. They don't complain if men say she should visit his mum if she did it with her ex. They will however argue about men saying she should suck his dick if she did it with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:06 AM
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In France, the law just states "penetration with force, threat, coercion or surprise" for the definition of rape. So it's gender neutral and a woman was condemned of raping her 13 years old son in law. The highest court, cour de cassation, invalidated the ruling by saying that penetration must be understood as penetration onto the victim, and thus a woman cannot rape a man through PIV even though the law doesn't say that. It was in 1998 and there's not one feminists who ever addressed this. And …
/r/MensRights09/10/21 11:48 PM
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You redefine objectification and claim that the problem is that people miss other things, which is totally not how objectification is used as an objection. It's exactly like for feminism. Every time the word is redefined for convenience in order to avoid addressing the problem with the notion. In case you forgot, people object to objectification itself, not, as you tried to portray it, to the fact that there's objectification only. And to answer your consideration, people usually treat others as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:25 PM
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Objectification is when you consider people as object. Like the number of people in a lift. There's nothing wrong with objectification per se. Everyone does it all the time. People complain about it only when on the receiving end, so complaints about objectification aren't really about objectification, they're about people who think others should think they're special.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:19 PM
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It's called wishful thinking. Guys argue that because they hope women are as horny as themselves and that social construct prevents them from acting on it. Such thinking allows guys who aren't slaying to justify that lack of success. It's rationalization of their lack of success with women: if only society didn't prevent women from jumping on my dick, they totally would. As if. The other rationalization is the male feminist: wanting to have women jump on your dick is so patriarchal so it shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:56 PM
1

You can. During the refractory period. Or if he doesn't consider you fuckable. That's why good looking women get the nice treatment but they never get passed the stage of being there to be fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:47 PM
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School made female behavior the norm and male behavior abnormal because one is more obedient and people in charge like obedient people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:44 PM
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When you're interested in her... That's the issue for women. They're not happy that men are interested in them IF they want to fuck them. It's the same disappointment that men have when they realize that women are interested in them IF they want something from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:41 PM
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Spontaneous erections do that well enough. Thinking I would fuck her about a passerby brings nothing to affirming your manhood. For most men it comes with the realisation that they would fuck her but cannot because she would totally ignore them. Nothing gender affirming in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:37 PM
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Let's stop bad mouthing objectification. It's something we all do all the time, when we only consider people on the bus occupying seats and not as individuals, or if the lift is full etc. But women and feminists pretend it's bad because they think they're too special to be on the receiving end of it. While of course they themselves do it all the time to orhers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:31 PM
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It's not basic courtesy. Saying this is like saying women should blow men every morning, it's basic courtesy. Saying it's courtesy doesn't explain nor justify, it just shows it is expected. And of course no explanation of why it is expected, just that it is, because it pleases women. That's my point. Pleasing men is not courtesy. Women keep saying that they don't owe sex to men. Courtesy is owed. So if pleasing men is not courtesy, why should pleasing women be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:42 PM
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You can. The point is why should you? What does it bring to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:27 PM
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How does that defeat the argument that you should care about your partner and work towards mutual sexual satisfaction? The claim is that you SHOULD care, but there is NEVER a justification for it. It is just women begging the question: if they want men to care about women's orgasm, they have to demonstrate why it matters in any way, shape or form to men. Female orgasms are not necessary biologically speaking for reproduction, which is the first reason for sex. As for sex for enjoyment, because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:30 PM
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She said she could have a kid without dicks involved RIGHT NOW. It's of course a laughable claim and should be treated as such. That it COULD be done in a lab somewhere, sure. But she'll be menopausal before she'll have access to that. So no, she cannot have a kid without dicks involved, and other women here cannot either. That they fantasize about the possibility, I don't doubt it. But they'll still need dicks involved to keep the electricity at the lab running.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:12 PM
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I can have a kid without any dicks involved, right now. You cannot without sperm. And I don't know if you skipped sex ed, but guess where sperm comes from? And it's not science who's found a way. It's men doing science. As usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:45 PM
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If you think precum comes without cum coming right after, well sure it does happen. But guess what happens most of the time. If for evolution the few spermatozoids were enough, semen would not contain that much. Evolution did what it did, don't try to deny basic biological facts. The fact of whoever comes first is irrelevant. It is about who has an orgasm necessary for reproduction who doesn't. Because in one case you have a very strong biological urge, but in the other, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:42 PM
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The fact that a woman's orgasm is optional makes it that much more of a boss move to get her to orgasm in my opinion Sure. The issue is that OP and everyone else pretends that male and female orgasms are on par. They are not. One is biologically driven and necessary for the survival of the species. The other is an option. If the guy wants to jackhammer, why should he be shamed for it? He got himself to come. But women always wait for men to make them come. As usual, letting men do the work while…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:33 PM
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"We". Do you mean men? Last I checked, women have not invented much and all on their own they could not keep one power plant running. And sorry to say, but most women ain't into pussies. Biology is a bitch...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:28 PM
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Think about it this way. You only question your habits because you assume that your goals and the girls' goals were not in sync, Basically, you wanted sex and nothing more, they wanted sex and something more. Now you never said you would give them something more. They only assumed you would. They willingly had sex, and so did you. Everyone enjoyed it, that's the end. If the girls were disappointed in something, it is only because the reality did not match their expectation of reality. Everybody'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:36 PM
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Not everything is about the literal words you say; there are implications that occur in dating, and you were playing on those implications in a manipulative way, which obscured your goals. This means that the girls also were playing on implications to obscure their own goal (have sex to gain long term relationship) but somehow, such behavior is only condemned when men do it. OP was truthful. It's not his fault if women get 50% less attractive once you've smashed them... He was truthful before, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:26 PM
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I feel so sorry for the women who sleep with someone like you. Your feelings are not going to change reality. You can read the humble brag and flexing in this thread all you want. The fact is that biologically, the male orgasm is necessary for the survival of the species. The female orgasm is just an option. Equating both is just a philosophical premise that you may agree with or not. Also facts: females extract resources from males by using their natural reproductive drive created by testostero…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:27 AM
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If you pump and dump, no need to care. Women know that if they want men to care for them, be it by buying them a drink or licking their clit, or whatever else get them off, it has to be before the fulfilling of the biological urge of ejaculating. After that, it's not going to happen before a recharge. And biology makes it so that every recharge lasts longer than the previous one, unless the woman change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:40 AM
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Agree and amplify. When they call men trash, answer things like "That's right, and that's exactly why most women are attracted to men. Dumpster diver!" When you are meeting an idea you disagree with, you have two ways to engage with it: either you are interested in debating, changing opinions, hearing arguments, etc. OR none of this is on the table (as for your sisters). Understand that their outburst is a sign of their inability to do anything about it. So don't judge them so harshly, just pity…
/r/MensRights06/10/21 07:02 AM
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I work at a research lab. About half the people in the place have PhDs. I have never heard anyone called "Doctor" outside of very formal speeches. Funnily, it is illegal in France to call some "doctor" if they are not an MD or a dentist. PhD holders can only use their full title, so noone uses them. "Doctor of Microbiology Martin". On the other hand, in Germany it is very common to use the title Doktor to anyone holding such degree, no matter the field (Doktor Goebbels). So this in fact a cultur…
/r/MensRights06/10/21 06:53 AM
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There's a logical problem in your argument. You're confusing necessary and sufficient. Saying that fucking is necessary to feel love doesn't mean it is sufficient. Sex is necessary to feel loved means no sex no love but that doesn't mean that sex only is enough. It's like saying money is necessary to buy bread and then you're like, well look at that, I have money and I cannot buy bread, and bitching about it, overlooking the fact that the bakery is closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:20 AM
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Well, to be honest, there's undeniable evidence that men will fuck anything: they do fuck women don't they? Had nature not given such a low trigger for fucking to the males of the human species, they'd never be able to mount a human female. So women should be glad that men fuck anything because otherwise there wouldn't be any babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:29 PM
1

People are also object. You too objectify people all the time (like when see how many people are in a lift, you only care about their mass, not whether they're Peter, Paul or Jane) so why is it bad I'm the first place? People complaining about objectification are hypocrites. They do it too all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:11 PM
3

Living vicariously, like women...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:35 AM
0

Your premise is wrong. There's no hate against women. That's just your victim mentality speaking. There's disappoinment that women are so adverse to logic and accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:34 AM
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Women don't fuck, they get fucked. Sorry but that's how penetration works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:30 AM
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Nah it means 12% of married women in their 30s are married with a guy in his 40s.
/r/MensRights03/10/21 11:19 PM
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For info, in France for example, nobody ever changes their birth name. It is not possible. The wife can USE her husband's first name (because the kids get his name, although the possibility to combine now exists), but she doesn't legally change name. There are plenty of other places where people don't change their name upon marrying...
/r/MensRights01/10/21 04:14 AM
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At this point, embrace being the oppressor and justify it by saying that if male domination of women wasn't the natural order of things, then patriarchy wouldn't have lasted so long and feminism would have won a long time ago.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 02:02 AM
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"America is not about exceptionalism"?? Lol. Have these guys ever looked at the US foreign policy? Suddenly when they are on the receiving end of such ideology these guys think it's a bad idea...
/r/MensRights26/09/21 02:04 AM
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What can go wrong doesn't change the fact that vaginas are made for 1. Take dicks 2. Let babies out. No matter what can go wrong along the way, it won't change its very purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:57 AM
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If you're designed to do something then it's not a sacrifice. It's like saying that I am making a sacrifice by eating, drinking and shitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:49 AM
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Social functions based on biological functions Social functions nonetheless. Pregnancy isn't a social function. It's the only reason why there are females. That's the very reason why feminists usually hate it because it is an insurmountable factor and one they think is limiting. Any care men do for women is purely social or personal. And as a sidenote, if men really wanted, they wouldn't need women's opinion to impregnate them. Again, the complaining of pregnancy for females is like complaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:47 AM
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It's not a biological function. The only biological function of men is to impregnate women in order to mix genes. The rest is social functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:41 AM
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Pregnancy is not a burden on men. It's not the point. The point is 1. Women are biologically designed to be pregnant. 2. Most of them want kids. Men aren't biologically designed to feed women and risk their lives to do so. Yet they do it. You basically want a medal for fulfilling your biological function and you deny one to men for fulfilling a social one. In short, you want to be praised solely for existing while you ignore what a real sacrifice is: something that doesn't have to be made but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:37 AM
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Dicks aren't made to be split. Vaginas are birth canal by design. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:32 AM
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Do you realize that the female is designed for pregnancy? It's less risky than to work on boats to bring back the fish she wants to eat. You cannot at once claim equality and then have a premise that the biological function of one sex is a burden but not the other. In case you don't know it's men who live less. It's always the same bias: a negative point for females, eg a health concern, is a problem. A negative point for males, well you know that's normal, nothing to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:28 AM
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Only women kill newborns. Following those people's logic, we should first educate all women to not kill newborns and also we should remove newborns from the mother right at birth just in case. We could give her her baby back after she completed the class about not killing newborns.
/r/MensRights24/09/21 10:01 AM
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I also think most men have some level of insecurity of about their sexual abilities If by sexual abilities you mean how skilled one is to bed a woman then sure. That's why PUA stuff sells. If by sexual abilities you mean how to please women who mostly think being in bed is all they have to do because sex is about them, then no. Men don't care much about it. That's why women complain that men are selfish in bed, forgetting how selfish they themselves are, which makes the argument moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:40 AM
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No. But that's how women who've been sleeping around like to put it in order to disqualify the argument that's really being made, ie, no man wants to inherit a former cock carrousel rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:33 AM
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Because women value relative worth. What matters to them is to be treated well by an asshole who treats others badly because this proves how special she is, while being treated well by a nice guy doesn't make her special. This whole situation is driven by women's narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:13 AM
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It's different to say that generous parental leave policies don't solve the issue of low birth rates and saying that they cause it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:33 AM
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Good parental leave policy is usually implemented after the fall of birth rates, not before. Your position would make sense if those policies were implemented prior, but they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:05 AM
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We all know that but feminists always counter the discrepancy in reproductive rights by saying that the man should not have sex to prevent such problems. The hypocrisy is off the charts since they have a meltdown if you tell them the same when talking about a solution against abortion.
/r/MensRights22/09/21 02:41 AM
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It's basically how the French system works. If you're married, the husband is automatically the father. If you're not married, the man must willingly go to the city hall to declare himself as the dad. If he doesn't, then there's no official father. There is a legal recourse for both situation where a husband has 5 years to sue to get his paternity revoked. Conversely, a single mother can sue a man to have his paternity officially recognized. The onus is not on the defendant, which makes a big di…
/r/MensRights22/09/21 02:37 AM
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Not the speed record...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:42 AM
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A man who’s okay with me getting pregnant by him is a man willing to fight for us (me and the kid) if need be. Not really. Many guys don't give a shit because as the roman said, fatherhood is never certain so it's very easy for men to dismiss paternity before you get to know the child. You only need to see the whole gaggle of new mums on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:32 AM
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But you know that when escaping a threat, the point isn't to run faster than the threat, but to run faster than the other target. Women rarely run faster than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:30 AM
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How hard something is, or the investment required to get it, does not make it okay. That's a moral judgement which is independent of whether an act is common or not. The point of whether it is ok or not has no relevance with whether it is EASY or HARD to do. It is only SUBSEQUENT to the fact happening or not, and thus derives from its difficulty to do. It's very easy to avoid hard things, but very hard to avoid easy things. There is no moral grandstanding to have when you avoid hard things: "I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:09 AM
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For sex, yes, men DO have lower standards. Sticking your dick in something is easier than letting something stick in you. Especially if the underlying hormones are pushing for that difference because it's an overall evolutionary advantage. Females can only be pregnant once a year. Males can impregnate once a day. If you think that this hasn't created structural differences in physiology and psychology, then I have some land on the moon to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:09 AM
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You're misrepresenting the gatekeeper of sex and commitment argument. It's not about a random man or woman. It's about men and women who are attracted to each other. The woman will decide if sex happens, and the man will decide if commitment happens. Couples don't have sex unless she is ok with it, because most of the time he is ok with it. And couples don't marry unless he is ok with it (hence why in the US it's the man who proposes) because most of the time she's waiting for it. Just be honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:03 AM
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It just shows that women think it's as easy for men to sleep around as it is for women while men know how difficult it is and thus respect, or at least don't condem, men who can pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:59 AM
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Very American of you... In the US, relationship are an opt-in after sex while in some places in Europe it's an opt-out before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:55 AM
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The question is, do you split bills during the 3 months or do you expect them to foot most of the bill? Because if it's a split bill situation, nothing prevents men from doing this multiple times at once. You just don't get to fuck the first three months then you always have a plate for the few months she needs to realize she's a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:52 AM
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You're misunderstanding the point. It's not about getting what another man has got. It's about entering with a proper understanding of the odds. When I buy a Euromillions ticket, and I lose, I'm not making a tantrum because some dude won 100 million euros cash and tax free and I didn't. That's because I know from the get go that I have super slim chances of winning. I know the odds. It's the same thing with dating apps. If I have almost no chance of winning, it'd better be a really high prize. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:08 AM
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Average guys cannot order sex like they do pizza, get over it. They totally can. It costs more than a pizza though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:33 AM
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Well many guys go MGTOW when they're in the middle of trying to date and realize it's not worth it for them. It doesn't mean it's rooted in PTSD as the initial post, although I'm pretty sure it won't be long before Mgtow is being officially pathologized. When on the receiving end of that process of a guy realizing he doesn't need or want women, then it feels personal like that guy doesn't want a particular woman and then ghosts. It's also not very different from pump and dump. It's most often it…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:00 AM
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And unsurprisingly, there's no word of the boys father. I wonder why...
/r/MensRights17/09/21 01:07 AM
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"And no everyone in the manosphere does not put blame on men. All I read is that women, feminism, society, etc is to blame." That's because you skipped the "1. Be attractive..." and jumped to the next step regarding feminism, women, society, etc. That's all you read as you said but unlike what you claim, that's not all there is. You just completely zapped the part where men know that their woes is due to their lack of attractiveness and then you claim that men are unaware of it while in fact it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:26 AM
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Marriage and relationship aren't the same thing as sexual attraction. That's TRP 101. And even non red pilled guys know that since one of the biggest complaint of nice guys is that being nice doesn't make them lay. So every man does make a difference. Most men are willing to go for relationship with a woman, mainly because it's the easiest access to sex if you're not an Adonis. What men complain about is that women have ruined relationships by making them not worth it due they're whoring around …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:00 AM
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Plenty of men think with reason that women overvalue themselves and are not worth devoting so much energy in the gym or that they're not a good enough reason to want to change your personality. TRP regimen isn't for everyone. Once you get your dick wet, you realize that if it's the only reason for all these efforts, you may as well have paid a hooker for the price of 2 hours of overtime work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:43 PM
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When kids are at home all the time, it’s a full time job. Nah. It's a full time job only in a US style helicopter parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:41 AM
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Too bad. You'd get more in alimony than you get at your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:38 AM
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Agree and amplify to make fun of her statements. For example: Men are pigs. Of course and that's why women are attracted to them. Gender pay gap. Of course, it's to pay all that alimony. Men are rapists. Of course, that's how dad made you. And I have to go rape a girl now, see you tonight. Etc.
/r/MensRights15/09/21 01:01 AM
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Serial monogamy allows hypergamy in societies where polygamy is illegal. It's called no fault divorce and it was pushed forth by feminists to let their inner nature run free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:29 AM
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It's called superior AND equal. There's even a math sign for it. Females here don't seem to understand the difference between > and ≥
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:25 AM
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An ATM is also an object. Why are you complaining about equality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:21 AM
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Are you arguing that women know better than men how men feel? Typical...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:20 AM
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Because feminism serves men in the elite. It basically promotes their sisters and daughters over the random men they can keep exploiting. That's why feminism only cares about management positions and such, because it's a self serving ideology for upper class women at the expense of middle and lower class men. Men are not a social class and neither are women. Yet these duchesses want to be like dukes and pretend they're oppressed by the male peasants. Laughable.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 10:05 AM
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Women's tears actually impact men's testosterone levels. It's a biological defense mechanism to escape some often deserved whoop ass. https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2011.2
/r/MensRights12/09/21 08:21 AM
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The big jump in female enrollment in college in the 70s and 80s was due to nursing needing a college degree while before that it was a trade taught in hospitals. The fact that most things now require a degree is mostly due to a push of the education industry rather than a real need.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 01:25 AM
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Whenever I hear "Men are trash", I reply, "Sure, and most women are attracted to them. What does that make them? Scavengers?"
/r/MensRights09/09/21 12:13 PM
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It's because males know that words can have consequences in the form of a punch in the face. Women never get such education because they are never hit and thus think they're somehow immune to being hit. So they never learn the boundaries.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/21 10:54 AM
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You can start here https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/36/3/351/5688045
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:32 PM
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Women who marry down education wise still marry up in income.... You cannot take hypergamy out of women, it's their nature. https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/36/3/351/5688045
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:34 PM
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Feminism is the model of all stupid Identity politics. It deserves to be belittle like the rest of supremacism.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 02:17 AM
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There's no wage gap. It's a myth parroted by feminists who don't understand statistics. There's an earnings gap between men and women. But it's actually between men and mothers mainly and the rest is due to women refusing to work as long, do dangerous jobs or work outside. More educated women still marry up in income because they are still hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:10 AM
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There are flying fishes. They don't constitute the majority of fishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:07 AM
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The man did talk to the woman, thus at least he didn't see her purely as a sexual object. Men never ALWAYS see women as sexual objects. They might sometimes do so. But then women do the exact same thing. Yet it's ok for women to do it but not for men. The usual female double standard. And comparing objectifying with murdering...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:03 AM
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Wanting the dick every day? Not many women are concerned by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 11:25 PM
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Death grip is what women who don't know how to give handjobs think they should do to give handjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 11:22 PM
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It says a lot about women to think that their humanity is given by men. Thinking that others dehumanize you shows that you think you have no inate humanity. Everyone objectifies everyone to various degree. Women do so all the time to other women and men (who are treated as support systems (. But female hypocrisy kicks in and they claim it's wrong while female actions in current society are predicated on objectifying men by considering them only as support systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:17 PM
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Hypergamy IS a thing. Noone in sociology says otherwise. There's even research about how it still exists while women are more educated than men... (Answer: women who marry down in education still marry up in income).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:12 PM
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It's always been the same. 25 years old females don't usually partner with a 35 years old men. However, 35 years old females have no issue getting in with a 45 years old male. The bigger age differences aren't evenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:08 PM
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It's in line with the World Economic Forum report on Gender gaps which only measures when there's a gap in favor of men, not the others way around. So twice as many male students in university as female? Bad. The other way around? No problem...
/r/MensRights01/09/21 05:24 PM
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The thing is, if you don't challenge a discourse, it gets normalized. So challenging feminist BS, at least prevent it from being normalized (although most of it is already).
/r/MensRights30/08/21 12:48 PM
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There's two things here: the AI and the sexbot. I doubt the bot will be up and running anytime soon. However, the AI will probably be out there soon. It could mimick a long distance relationship. And probably take most jobs in accounting, law and HR...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:26 AM
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Without the robot and just the AI, it would be like a long distance relationship. No difference. The AI can produce texts, audio, video, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:22 AM
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Not a robot for sure. But a video AI indistinguishable from an OnlyFan thot? Sure, within ten years you'll have it. AI video, audio and text will create a tailored interaction that will mimick a long distance relationship. That wilk take out of the dating market a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:16 AM
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The protestants are very into Old testament, but not the Catholics or the Orthodox. But then again, most Anglos equate Christianity with Protestantism... Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:00 PM
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The story of Jezebel is in the old testament. The fact that she assigns this to Christianity shows how ignorant such comment was. What's next? Circumcision is because of Christians?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:50 PM
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It doesn't matter if women rank themselves. What matters is that men do NOT do that. Men give a pass or a fail. Thus competition among women mostly derive from the women's habit of ranking people relatively (men and women alike).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:26 AM
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Men only? You mean SOME men. If men had a longer life span, women would call it unfair. Since it's the other way around, they don't mind. As Stalin said "what's mine is mine, what's yours is up for discussion" That's how women view equality, which means it's not about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:51 AM
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I like how you lump two categories into that 50%. Way to obfuscate the data. What's the percentage of married couples with a female as a sole breadwinner? Even when it's 50/50, men get their assets taken for more than half.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:48 AM
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The replies are just the same though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:15 PM
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Nah men are not a class. In order for men of the ruling class to strive by exploiting lower class people, they need women to be on the job market to lower the wages for everyone. It happened to all sectors where women entered in drove: salaries stagnated at best because well, the workforce doubled. It's called the reserve army of capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:01 PM
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I wonder if you'd accept the same answer next time you talk about something to someone else... I really wonder how anyone can think that "it doesn't apply to me" is a convincing argument in any debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:53 PM
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They'll be hurt by their husband by divorce raping them with the help of institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:51 PM
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You reply to a comment mentioning a social shift in the 18th century by saying that the reason is obvious and it is Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:24 PM
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Plenty did, you just had to know how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:15 PM
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Where exactly are women weighing in about male sexuality? Ever heard of the "male gaze", "objectification" and so on? That is basically women telling men what male sexuality should be. I don't mind, but then the same should shut up about men telling women what female sexuality should be. It's the double standard that is profoundly annoying, and more than that, the complete inability by most women to even start conceiving that such double standard exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:43 AM
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Evolutionally, we have put physical dominance on a pedestal- that is a biological fact that has extended to our social infrastructure. Because men are physically larger and stronger than women on average, they were given the upper hand. Notice the "we" and the passive "were given". Sorry but power is taken, not given. Entitlement princesses think this should also be handed to them... An dead white man once wrote: Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognised and is not disputed. So w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:00 AM
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Men have always been able, and have, publicly objectified women and exploited them at their expense- all for men's entertainment. Men have done the exact same thing to other men. Women thinking this is specifically targeted at them only think that way because of their self-centerism and their inability to see anything that doesn't concern them. So they wrongfully assume that such objectification and exploitation is done BECAUSE they're women. It's basically the "why does it rain on me?" question…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:56 AM
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they are choosing inappropriate forums to air their issues. Inappropriate is just code word for saying "not approved by feminists". As for people weighing in on things they know nothing about, as soon as a woman says something about male sexuality, you can be sure it's such a case. Yet they keep on blabbering as much as the next guy about females. Yet in one case it's perfectly ok, in the other it is not, somehow. The female double standard at work again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:52 AM
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Many folks in France keep in touch with their exes since people navigate in the same social circles. I suspect it's more a cultural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:47 AM
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Lol. Do you think Christianity appeared in Europe in the 18th century? The shift appeared a millennium after Christianity in Europe...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:14 AM
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If you go to a AA meeting, the people there who are trying to detach themselves from alcohol talk a lot about it. This reproach is really the most senseless one because the point is about how the mere want to be detached is what reddit and co. want to forbid since this means less serfs for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:01 AM
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Further reading https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2019/dirtiness-perceived-cleanliness-sustained-women-study-reveals/ The solution isn't what you propose. The solution is for women to take responsibility of their own wants. Just like they demand of men when it comes to having sex, they want men to work for it. Well, if they want a cleaner environment, then they should work for it and clean themselves. Another issue is that men are more productive hence they clean faster. Most of the difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:45 AM
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A data point doesn't invalidate a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:39 AM
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If it was simply detachment, there wouldn't be a problem. That's the rationalization but the group didn't entice violence. You consider it so because women and men at the top consider it violence when men refuse to be their servants. They group's philosophy goes much further than detachment. They generalize and degrade women. They don't just tell men to not date, they teach men to hate women. Lol. Teach men to hate women? Women do that on their own very well. It was quite the contrary: rage if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:35 AM
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MGTOW 2 didn't. It wasn't even quarantined and got banned anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:47 PM
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Nobody cares who you block. If you cannot handle disagreement in a public forum, stay with your girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:39 AM
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Meanwhile, women bitch about unpaid labour... Oh the double standard!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:12 AM
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Men being detached from women has been considered as hate speech and enticing violence according to Reddit who banned the mgtow sub. No matter how your speech can be rational, actions speak louder than words. And actions by institutions, companies anything show that they don't want men to be detached precisely because they want to exploit men, which they couldn't do if they were detached. Women and feminists are exactly in the same situation. They claim they would want nothing more than men bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:10 AM
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Funnily, when men try that, just going on their way, they're labelled as a hate group and shut down as seen on Reddit and elsewhere. Don't try the emotional appeal because had women been logical, they'd support groups like Mgtow and such. But no, they want their serfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:57 AM
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Nope. The premise of feminism is that women are a class and that men are also a class that systematically oppress women. Feminism is in now all aspects of western institutions, and that premise is carried on by policies and regulations. Of course that premise is wrong as all men know. Never a man has considered favorably other men just because he's a man. Women have projected their own in group bias onto men and called it patriarchy. The men at the top are laughing and they use the average woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:18 AM
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The issue isn't that they do so because they're fearful of men. The issue is that they fail to recognize the logical conclusion of women being fearful of men but not the other way around (which is considered hateful according to Reddit): the sexes aren't equal. It's the hypocrisy that's annoying: the cries for gender equality and the behavior that shows clearly the opposite. Do as you say and say as you do. Until then, all discussion is mired in female double speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:10 AM
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Nope. They put rouge on their lips to be sexually attractive to men. Whether they say do or pretend it's for other reasons, mimicking youth and arousal isn't just for your own pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:04 AM
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Nah. Women who claim to have a high sex drive really means they could fuck Brad Pitt every day. But that's not a high sex drive. A high sex drive is to fuck a different average joe every day. Without getting paid for it. I've never seen it...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:47 AM
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If you abstain more then you don't have a higher sex drive. The sex drive is basically the want to fuck anything. Men can fuck 80% of women. Women aren't able to fuck 80% of men. You presenting of self control is just an admission of your lower sex drive: you can control it better precisely because it's lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:43 AM
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Nah. Evolutionary speaking, the male orgasm in a female is necessary for the species to survive. The female orgasm, with a male or female, is optional. The only thing needed is for a female to sometimes allow a penis. Thus women being bisexual doesn't negatively affect her chances at reproducing since basically she needs sperm once a year. For males, the more they mate with females, the higher their chances at reproducing. Hence it's not surprising that men want sex from women way more than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:39 AM
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Who knows if it really is their own children... Men don't abandon their children, their children are taken away from them by women and the legal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:33 AM
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The billions dollars industries of cosmetics, fashion, etc. beg to differ. Women don't put on makeup for themselves or other women...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:29 AM
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Well. Men can decide to go the Genghis Khan and Mongol warriors way of having sex with women... Wouldn't it be better to discuss and try to change social practices peacefully instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:17 AM
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It's like saying "you're poor because your job sucks. Find a better job." and refusing to find why in society some people are stuck in poverty. OPs take is the boomer comment "fInD a BeTeR jOb yOU laZY aSs" to someone talking about the social factors of poverty...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:14 AM
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Lol. Tell that to all sociologists. It doesn't take long to find that hypergamy is a thing even in the West where women are more educated than men. https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/36/3/351/5688045 We find that in hypogamous unions, women tend to have a higher social class background and occupational prestige, but lower income than their partners. The income gap between partners is not simply a consequence of the gender wage gap, but driven by selection into different union types https://doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:48 AM
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Because this is how you filter by social class. In a low key house party, the population has been preselected way more strictly than in a club. That's why cold approach is good in spaces with preselected crowd but considered harassment in public (because it can come from lower class men).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:36 AM
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That's because people of different classes find their mates in different spaces. Finding your mate in a public space is more common of the lower class. For middle and upper class, it happens in what is called "reserved" spaces (with am access that's been filtered, like an art gallery or a concert) and in private spaces (even more filtered). People here confuse the social practice (homogamy is most common due to proximity) and the individual tendency (women filter out lower class). Not everyone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:33 AM
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This doesn't negate what's being said. In the doctors example, men will pair with female doctors but if they cannot, as in back in the days when they were fewer, they would also pair with nurses. People shitting on hypergamy (although there's also plenty of studies that show it exists) usually don't understand the concept. They think it means women only pair with higher up or men only pair with lower class women. That's not it. Hypergamy is the tendency of women pair at and up their social class…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:22 AM
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"somebody do something" is their mantra.
/r/MensRights17/08/21 10:37 PM
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Protect from what? I like your presumption that protection should entail fight to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:03 AM
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The definitions you quoted are vague and that's why there's often issues about this whole thing. The meaning of the term is tricky. First, no matter what you said, the whole submission part comes from Paul, and thus stems from religion. The thing is, the complete quote is wives, submit to your husband and husbands, love your wife. It's obviously about doing what either tend not to do... Notice that you questioned the same thing (you said "if they both love each other"). About the submission part…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:42 AM
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You have a problem because you're thinking that attraction is about exclusive categories: either you get attracted by youth OR by your wife, thus if wife isn't young then you can't be attracted to her. That's not the case. Youth is ONE important factor for attraction, but not the only one, otherwise young women wouldn't get dumped. Most men would trade their old wife for the same woman in her youth. That's not possible though. So yes youth (and beauty) is a favored factor, but it doesn't single …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:55 AM
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Long before Facebook, she was hired by Larry Summers while still young and navigated in the upper spheres of the Clinton administration. Yet she lectured everyone as if she had done more than being hired by influential and powerful men...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:27 AM
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Enthusiastic sex with young women is better than duty sex with middle aged ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:11 AM
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That's because Sandberg, as most women, has an inflated value of herself, and thus thinks that the BB guy gets so much more, because he gets to deal with the true her, while the AF only got the trial version of her. She cannot conceptualize that men do not value the same thing as women, and thus that most men would rather fuck her 22 years old version and see her leave rather than see her 33 years old version stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:55 AM
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Low value men: always ensuring they go after women because their sad pathetic lives prevent them from seeing that it’s men that’s fucked them over Free Dinner Strategy: always resenting the fact they're beggers so always ready to shame and insult, the only form of arguing they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:37 AM
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or else stop commenting towards me. Lol. As if...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:34 AM
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I know what it's like to witness and have to call out an injustice. Just world fallacy. Calling out injustice is a rhetoric trick to avoid justifying what you call justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:32 AM
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I said i wasn't familiar. Then instead of lecturing about what happened to you, listen to the experience of others. But that's probably too much to ask for women: if it doesn't concern them, then it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:28 AM
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Can you prove she said the truth? Women: always demanding of others what they refuse to do for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:40 AM
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I just hope you really are not an engineer since all your arguments are basically thinking a counter example invalidates a trend! You don't seem to grasp that outliers do not invalidate the mean, so propping them up doesn't say anything against the reality of the mean. "People live 75 years in average" "BuT mY granDmA liVeD To 100" Sigh...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:36 AM
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Patriarchy is mostly a rationalization of personal failure. It's such a joke concept anyway as it's used to explain everything and its contrary. Feminism is just upper class women trying to pass for victim of the lower class men so they can live like upper class men. Literally the duchesses blaming the peasants for not living like dukes. And the female peasants stupid enough to fall for it end up as miserable single women but happy that the duchesses have it good. And then when the male peasant …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:29 AM
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Lucky 40%...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:19 AM
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"it's never happened to me so it never happens..." I guess that's how we have people saying the moon landing was staged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:14 AM
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It's funny that those people don't seem to care about indigenous people when about Europe...
/r/MensRights09/08/21 09:02 AM
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A fourth of the total is 25%. That's a significant number. And we know that the majority of the within 3 years range means that the woman is younger in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:27 AM
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The guys just don't want to jump through the hoops just to blow a nut while wanking is more efficient, or a Chinese masseuse will cost you less than a date (and won't suck up your time like a girlfriend, only your dick). The sexes in Japan traditionally live separate lives so if sex can be replaced, men have zero incentive to pursue women, hence the herbivore men phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:20 AM
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It is a bot. It's too stupid to think.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:59 AM
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Married people and LTRs have more sex and more frequent sex on average. That's because the average for people NOT in a relationships has to include the time during which they are not in a relationship, while married people are continuously within one. I have yet to see average that count only WITHIN the timeframe of the relationship. Usually, it is only counted as "per week" or "per month" or "per year". So basically, a married man who fucks twice a month for a year ends up with the same average…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 04:08 PM
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It wasn't even quarantined. This shows how the ban wasn't based on Reddit policies, but on Reddit ideology. Had policies been broken in MGTOW 2, that sub would have been quarantined too.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:19 PM
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MGTOW2 was not quarantined I believe...
/r/MensRights03/08/21 09:04 PM
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Can you publish the links here? Thanks, I'd be interested in reading those.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:00 PM
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Women always portray themselves as "young and naive" whenever it's time to not be accountable. It seems that for them accountability doesn't start before 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:59 AM
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Respect sure is to be earned, but it can be lost too. People start with basic respect, and if their actions warrant it, they either lose or gain some respect. If women are not respected, it's because they have done many things to lose the respect they were first extended. The "respect women" mantra is just a way for these women who have lost all respect to get some extra without having to do what women have a hard time doing: be accountable for their actions, which is what made them lose the res…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 09:25 AM
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Done plenty. Funny thing is that primary school age kids take care of their younger siblings all around the world and American adult women want a medal for doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:53 PM
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t is not an easy job at all, regardless of gender. If you drive them around and don't think you can leave them at the park or on their own in the garden lest you have CPS called on you, ie if you are in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:49 PM
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it was like I had a 30 year old child. How would you know if you're child free? Modern American women confuse taking care of children and being a helicopter parent, hence they don't understand how easy it is to take care of children. Nobody thinks that having a dog is difficult. Well children are much smarter than dogs...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:15 AM
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you mean like actually listening to me and offering me support? That's a full time job for a psychologist. It's funny that unpaid labor is a scandal when done by females but a given when done by males. The double standard is really annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:11 AM
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Women complain about playing mommy but modern women aren't good at being mommy. What modern women don't like in what they call being a mommy is being responsible for anything. Women don't like to be responsible for anything. They just want half of the responsibility: the freedom to choose but not the accountability that goes with it. That's what they find exhausting and dislike at being a mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:58 AM
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Having a female partner is like.... having a partner. That's your impression. When females "communicate", it means it's a full time psychologist job with no pay on the other end. For them, it's considered normal, however they think that remembering birthdays is exhausting. Women have no self awareness because they are so self centered so what matters to them is supposed to matter to all. And noone correct them because we want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:50 AM
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Lol. That line of thinking would be great if it was about only women doing something for women, but most of feminism is about how men should behave for the benefit of women. It shows how women naturally consider that men should behave a certain way just because it benefits women: for them men are naturally women's servant and men should be happy about that. And they wonder why they get slapped... In the end, power is about might. Feminism always tries to discredit to use of force because natural…
/r/MGTOW224/07/21 01:39 PM
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Beautiful women are naturally pretty. If you need make up, it's because you're not as beautiful as you think you are. Yes, make up works, but pretending that natural beauty doesn't exist is gaslighting by average girls who think too high of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:43 AM
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Kpop stars play on the homosexual tendencies of young women when they tend to still be afraid of the male sex and of the possible dangerousness of the penis. It's the same with mangas whose stories are about young men looking like women who engage in homosexual sex. Young women get to get wet but vicarously, the feminine man being the projection they need to fantasize because for them the real man, the bad boy, still appears too dangerous for them to openly be attracted to him. It's usually a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:14 AM
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Yea, no shit. You act like every woman in a position of power was handed it on a sliver plate. That’s why you assume what I said was entitlement Show me a list of powerful women who were neither daughter, wife, or mother of powerful men. It'll be a much shorter list than the one of powerful men coming from nothing. Again. The feminist narrative is based on ignorance of history. You're showing this pretty tellingly. For example, 1st wave feminists refused to pay taxes on their income because thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:30 PM
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The fact that you think women inherently don’t deserve higher roles solely because they’re women is why feminism was needed. Nobody DESERVES higher roles. You seize higher roles. The way you present this shows the entitlement of women who think stuff should be handed to them solely because of their sex. No man ever said, I should be the chief just because I am a man. Feminism is exactly what I said: entitlement of upper class women disguised as a fight for justice. All at the expense of the lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:26 AM
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Feminism was the template of all ID politics. It was rich women unhappy to not be afforded the same toys as their brothers (CEO positions, elected positions, etc.) pretending to belong to an oppressed class whose oppressor oh so conveniently happened to be the stable working class men. The destruction of the working class by splitting it up and pitting one sex against another. It was done by feeding women an ideology that tells them that their lives would be better if only the daughters of power…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:46 AM
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Well some of them actually said that they had to constantly masturbate to the point of paint because the amount of testosterone was making them unbearably horny. Not mentioning that some became sterile because it fried their reproductive system which isn't made to put up with such amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:39 AM
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"Do you want to say"... Can you stop putting words in someone else's mouth? The initial comment was that men should control themselves and shut up. I pointed out that by that count then women should do the same about their periods, which they do not. At no point I talked about HOW the relief should be attained. The initial comment was saying men should control themselves and shut up. OK then. Then women should also. But of course, female dishonesty kicks in right away and moves the point by pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:35 AM
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The question was not from whom relief is asked. It was said that men shouldn't even ask for it and should just control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:28 AM
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You’re right I won’t know how it feels to have 20x testosterone but I do know men have the ability to be respectful, involved and competent and that the “We can’t help it” excuse is bull shit. You should check the East German female athletes to see what happens when you shoot testosterone into a female body. The funny thing is, when a biological imperative lords onto males, they are supposed to shut up about it and get it under control. When it's onto females, like cramps due to periods, then su…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:23 AM
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France too. The law itself could, and a woman was convicted of rape (on her 14 years old stepson) but then the highest court decreed that the "penetration" mentioned in the law could only be done ONTO the victim, and not BY the victim. Hence a woman could never rape a man with PIV sex. " Attendu qu'il résulte de ces textes que l'élément matériel du crime de viol n'est caractérisé que si l'auteur réalise l'acte de pénétration sexuelle sur la personne de la victime" https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/…
/r/MensRights14/07/21 03:06 AM
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You should try to watch the 1997 Neil La Bute movie "In the company of men". It'll probably appease you a bit.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 02:47 AM
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For a historical perspective, spinsterhood was way more common in the 19th century when a bigger part of women remained single and childless than in the 20th. However, back then, those who did have children had a load of them. It's actually the 20th century with almost all women having children that is an exception.
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 05:01 PM
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While those men could be used as cogs in the machine instead of indulging themselves. It"s only bad because if done on a massive scale, then women and the elite can no longer extract as much resources from the common man. He must stay a cog for those who benefit from his labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:57 PM
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My point is you're complaining but you're currently not giving women a good reason to abandon it. I'm not complaining. I am pointing at the fact that women complain about the consequences of their own choices. Women do whatever the fuck the want, but men do not have to be responsible of women's choices. So it's not up to them to offer an alternative to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:51 PM
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Isn't it precisely because women are so picky that the men they deem attractive have a lower chance of being the same as the other women's pick? OP was not talking about WHO is attractive, but what feature makes a man attractive in a man. If said feature is not objective (see the 6 packs considered as dad bod), then the lack of agreement between women only reflects their pickiness and the subjectivity of the evaluation of their criteria. Basically, it would be like men disagreeing about how big …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:24 AM
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What feminism has to offer to women is to take stuff from men. Whether through feminism or traditionalism or else, what women get is always coming from men. So your question is moot. Feminism is ONE way to take from men. Alternatives are only different in HOW they take from men, but they all take from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:43 AM
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Japan bitched about North Korea abducting their citizen, but they do the same thing.
/r/MGTOW11/07/21 03:47 PM
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It's one thing to be aware of such advantage, it's another thing to pretend it's not there or worse, that it favors men. It's the hypocrisy of women on this topic that is the annoying point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:26 AM
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College students increasingly forgo summers off to save money To discourage dropouts, high school was shortened from four years to three, though the effect of this has been mixed. Many students and some observers say schools have simply crammed the same amount of teaching into less time, alienating already disaffected students. Those students are more often boys, said Ragnar Thor Snaeland, an undergraduate studying toward a law degree at the University of Iceland; he said he enrolled there becau…
/r/MensRights08/07/21 09:06 AM
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The degrees of separation between the genders in college keep growing Image without a caption The bar at the University of Iceland offers a portrait of the gender imbalance on campus, where women outnumber men 2 to 1. (Heida Helgadottir/For The Hechinger Report) By Jon Marcus October 27, 2019 REYKJAVIK, Iceland — Happy hour at the bar at the University of Iceland gets underway at 4 p.m. on Thursdays, the unofficial end of the week on campuses everywhere. Like their counterparts all over the worl…
/r/MensRights08/07/21 09:06 AM
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All neolibs everywhere push for the same politics to cover their failures. Macron is just one of them.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:02 AM
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Men are not a class. Men have known that since forever. This is also why feminism is so wrong. Its premise is that sexes are classes. They're not. ID politics and feminism are pushed forth by men from the elite because it allows to perpetuate a system where they strive under the guise of changing the system. Same as in 1984.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 06:01 AM
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Back in my youth, I could pickup girls quite often. However, having nowhere private to bring them back was the best contraceptive... And knowing I couldn't bed them, I gave even less fucks, and picked up girls even more easily. It was infuriating...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:33 PM
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Find a good marriage counselor. Why the default action in the US is "find a therapist/counselor/whatever." Just talk to the person involved.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 08:02 AM
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How men treat women is out of women’s control. Lol. Ever heard of action - reaction? As if men's treatment of women is completely independent of how women behave. As if. The US nuking Japan had nothing to do with how Japan behaved and it was totally out Japan's control. /s As I said, women: professionally avoiding personal accountability since like forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:16 AM
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Wrong person. It still doesn't answer the lack of accountability in women. It's always someone else's fault. Never theirs. They don't pass 16 it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:18 AM
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Boy, the women are never responsible for their own actions mentality is really something. It's now men's fault that women whore themselves out despite the fact that men publicly tell them time and again to not do it. Women want to do it because they are strong, free and independent, but when the predicted results come up, it's somehow men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:11 AM
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Because it is pro CHOICE, not pro responsibility. Women don't want to be held responsible for the consequences of their actions if they dislike the consequences. It's like teenagers: they want to be in charge but if shit hit the fan, daddy is called. Women don't want freedom, they want the perks of freedom. They are like that for everything: they don't want to work, they want the perks of working. They don't want relationships, etc. It's their stark inability to understand reasons and consequenc…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 11:29 PM
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Most girls that call in are overweight and don’t have great jobs but want a HVM. But that’s not ALL women But that's the majority...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:46 PM
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Not just that. Women living alone spend more time on house chores than men living alone. Men are more efficient at cleaning since studies have also shown that there's no difference in perceived messiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:34 PM
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Yes you did. When you use "go watch then come back" you are lecturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 11:25 PM
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Why lol? Are you levitating above the rest of humanity and can't get criticized? It's not as if Americans never engage in lecturing others about how things should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:54 PM
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Lol. I don't think Americans are in a position to lecture about that while the country was literally built on whiping out the natives...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:51 PM
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The friendship thing is because people move much less in Europe than in the US. Moving across the country is nothing special in the US. It still is a big thing in most places in Europe. That's why I think in the US people are fast to know you and fast to forget you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:46 PM
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You probably get paid more in the US, but that doesn't make you more wealthy considering the insane amount you pay for healthcare or people still having students loans at 40. You probably make 5k a month where you'd make half of that in Europe but you work insane hours and then once you remove your health insurance and students loan etc. you're not making more in the US. You're just working more...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:42 PM
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I think you pointed out the cardinal sin in America: gluttony. Not just food, but of everything, including success, work or money. It's the perfect place for those who want more, but it's a soul crushing place for those who are content. And those who no longer have the drive, they're treated like abnormals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:33 PM
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Status and economic reasons are very different things. It totally depended which nobility. It actually depended on how important was the woman's side. In countries like Germany where the 16 quarters of nobility mattered, ie, the nobility of the woman mattered, then status trumped any other consideration. The wife HAD to be of noble birth lest the next 4 generations would be tainted. In countries where the father's nobility was what mattered, the patriarchal line, then many considerations could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:35 AM
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De France je suppose...
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 11:29 PM
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Don't know what country you from but if you think politicians pay those restaurants out of their own pocket, that's not the case for most. And the real top ones don't have to do anything. Ask Monica Lewinski if she got anything but a cigar. Chirac was known as "15 minutes, shower included". Nothing else is given, and those women take it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:22 AM
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I suspect that your observation is culturally biased when you say that women are not attracted to men of political power. It's just that in the US, it'd be career suicide for politicians to frolic with women. They still do but they have to hide it. If you look at places where this doesn't impact their careers, like in France, you'll see that politicians slay like no others. There's always a young thing ready to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:40 AM
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Because so many live vicariously. That's why they follow and care about the herd.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:53 AM
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Not only that. But that the way to be free is to be an obedient fool, like those morons postings motivational shit on LinkedIn.
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 10:46 AM
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Women are the oil necessary for the cogs to keep working. Without them, the cogs stop working smoothly and many of them realize that they should not be cogs but they should free themselves from the machine. If it weren't for the protection instinct of men towards women and children highjacked to be an obedient cog, how many more men would have stopped working for the machine?
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 10:44 AM
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I am about to crack a damn rib laughing so hard at you and guys like you- who are SO illogical and SO ignorant, and yet at the same time so smug in your insistence that you are smart and logical. This is fuckin hilarious. You see the problem with the name calling? Once you are given the evidence, you have nothing to say because all you did was spurting shaming and insults without an ounce of logic. Crying about the lack of logic was just projecting. Here, have a good read. And now you know why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:41 PM
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No. It means women standards are relative. It's why for example the age of best looking men for them advances with how old the woman is while the best looking woman for men is always 22. Relative vs. objective standard. The result of that is that women do not have their rating change much along the size of the group while for men their rating does change drastically depending if they're in a small or big group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:11 PM
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We've all seen how women judge 80% of the men to be below average...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:04 PM
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I'm waiting for a mediocre pro tennisman to do the same trick to pocket the equal prize money of the major tournaments. I suspect the Reddit admins would suddenly have a different view on the issue if the livelihood of the boss' wife were threatened.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/21 02:17 PM
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That "just" gets it. It's like those job offers: entry level position, 10 years experience required.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:21 PM
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Reddit n'est jamais en retard pour la censure...
/r/TheRedPill19/06/21 06:09 AM
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Or just are having shit sex and want to get it over with Which is exactly why they are having shit sex. If you are having shit sex, YOU are responsible for it more than the other person. That's what most women complaining about having shit sex don't seem to realize: they think that it's got nothing to do with them. Well, woman, I have news for you. If you are having shit sex, it's probably because you are shit at sex. The starfishing is the perfect example: if you do it, don't expect to be more …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:06 AM
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The men in their 30's are like teenagers emotionally speaking when compared to these women. What does this mean? And why is a string of failures portrayed as maturity when it's women, but not men? Maybe these women failed their relationship because they were the ones being like teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:54 AM
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Yeah, why do women starfish then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:18 AM
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Anything you say is automatically discarded and of no value to me. As if that matters. Nobody cares who you engage or debate with. The assumption that anyone on Reddit gives a shit about who you engage or not only betrays how self-centered you are and your lack of ability to see things as they are. The very fact that you don't engage with what doesn't serve you illustrates exactly what we're talking about here: the modern female delusions of grandeur. It's comically stereotypical. As for KS, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:49 AM
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Nobody said rejected by the same women. That's an invention of yours. It's irrelevant if they are willing at 40 to get the same men they rejected at 25, or if they still are delusional and chasing the top tier men while having nothing to offer. The two versions exist. You think that women who could have locked in a relationship at a younger age and can no longer do so as age advances is a myth invented by incel? Just browse r/whereareallgoodmengone or watch a few Kevin Samuels videos and you'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:29 AM
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How exactly does this go against the narrative? Women being put off by experience is the same thing as them unable to get what they want. It fits the narrative of women getting used for sex only as time goes by and unable to get a relationship and thus giving up and getting a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:08 AM
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Freedom is not something you have, it's something you are relative to something else. It's like being late. In itself it has no meaning. Women exchanged dependency on men they chose, their spouse, for dependency on men they don't choose, their boss. Calling that being free is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:41 AM
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They wanted independence from their husband, and they got it. They're dependent from their boss now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:34 AM
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That's absolutely not true. The part of women having babies was smaller in the 19th century when being a spinster was a thing than in the 20th when most women did have children. The option if not having children has always existed for women in the West where forced marriage hasn't been a thing in millenia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:28 AM
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As if upper class career women are free. Freedom is about choosing what you depend on, not whether you're dependent or not. Women would rather depend on their job than on their family. But they just hate to have to shoulder the consequences of their choices so as usual they want their cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:16 AM
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Batalions from the same place was never a thing in the French army during WW1. I think only the Brits did that for a while until the stupidity of the idea in a conflict with such a massive casualty rate became obvious.
/r/MGTOW17/06/21 12:03 AM
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Think of all the lost ATMs.
/r/MGTOW215/06/21 11:00 AM
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Well, if your own safety is at stake, I'd rather the able people be in charge. The captain knew this had to be dealt with by people able to do something about it, not by people yelling "somebody do something".
/r/MensRights13/06/21 10:21 AM
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The easiest way to implement that is under the guise of looking at possible genetic predispositions. There should be a pilot study where this done systematically, to gauge the real false paternity rate (noone really wants to know and fund a proper study). Remember that 3% means that one kid in every classroom isn't the kid of the declared father.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 05:14 AM
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It's attributed to women only because whether to have a kid or an abortion is solely the woman's decision. Whatever the man wants, have a kid or not, doesn't matter and has no bearing on the outcome. Women fought to be in that position so I wonder why they now complain to be in the position they wanted to be in just because they realize a bit too late that you have to shoulder the consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:48 AM
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Passengers also control what plane they board too. The fact that you confuse a consequence and a necessary condition says a lot on your lack of understanding of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:21 PM
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And people who die in plane accidents agree to die when they boarded the plane... Good thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:02 PM
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Feminism has never been anything but a way for upper class women to gain power by painting the real discrepancy between upper class men and upper class women as a discrepancy across the board between men and women. Since women are so hypergamous, they only consider the men at the top and completely ignore the others. That's why feminism is about gaining positions at the top for upper class women, and not sharing the burden of lower class men.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 12:36 PM
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Treating political opposition as a mental illness. Very feminist like. Very Brejnev.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 12:27 PM
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Unpaid labor of men that feminists never mention is listening to women. They call that "communication" because it's for their benefit. If we did like feminists and value that at a professional rate, every man in Earth would earn as much as a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 11:38 AM
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This is irrelevant. Women fought and still want SOLE responsibility for that decision but absolutely do not want to shoulder the consequences of their sole decision. They want to decide and have men shoulder the consequences of the women's decisions. Choose one way or the other. Either you decide alone but then you shoulder the consequences alone OR you want to share the consequences but in this case you cannot decide alone. As usual, women want their cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:09 AM
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Having sex and birthing a baby are different things. Confusing an outcome with a necessary condition is silly but hypocritical when suddenly a differentiation is done about having abortions. Suddenly having sex and having a baby are two separate things. The amount of hypocrisy of women in that point just so they can load the consequences of their decision on someone else's is insane. She decided to have sex, she decided to keep the baby. He decided to have sex, nothing more. Blaming the outcome …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:04 AM
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Once the baby exists... I like how you skirt the very issue. The woman decides alone whether a baby exists or not. Women fought for that responsibility but has soon THEY decide then suddenly it's got nothing to do with their decision. Hypocrisy at its best. They want to decide alone but they don't want to shoulder the consequences of their decisions. Women are indeed like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:58 AM
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The thing is, women want the advantages of being in position of responsibility, but not the disadvantages. So that's why it's my body my choice in one case but my body your wallet in the other. Women rarely own up to their mistakes or their bad decisions. It's always somebody else's fault. And that somebody else has to pay of course, not her, even if it was her decision all along. It's really the naked hypocrisy of it all that is the most annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:01 AM
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You're wrongly conflating two concepts, freedom and independence. Neil Armstrong freely went to the Moon. Noone forced him to. He did NOT go there independently. Doing something freely does not imply that it can be done independently. Noone can go to the moon independently so far. However, if something is doable independently, then it can be done freely. It does not mean though that what is done independently is always done freely. Slaves picked the cotton on their own, but they did not do it fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:05 AM
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I want to go to the moon and cannot, I am not free to do what I want. Yet I grow my food and live off grid in Alska, I am independent. Independence is relative to needs, freedom is relative to wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:31 AM
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You are confusing freedom and independence. Those are different things. You can be independent but not free and you can be free but not independent. Independence is the ability to sustain yourself. Freedom is the ability to do what you want. If I can make others do what I want yet I am unable to sustain myself on my own, I am free but not independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:39 AM
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Slavery is not dependency on the slave's part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:17 PM
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Your question doesn't make sense. Independence is not given. It's like an ability. You don't magically give it. It's the person or the group that gain independence that develop it, it doesn't come from outside. So there's no meaning to blame men for either giving or preventing women's independence. If women are not independent, it's because they don't have the capacity to be. Dependency is solely a characteristic of the dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:48 PM
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There are flying fishes but they don't make the majority of fishes. It's funny how women always try to point at exceptions as disproving a rule. It doesn't. And we're talking about groups, not individual. So what so and so does individually is irrelevant to the argument. Individually nobody is independent but as a group, men are but not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:41 PM
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So you want the perks of independence but not the responsabilities. Typically female. That's exactly what the issue is. You cannot claim to want equality or independence if you only want the good sides but as soon as something bad shows up, "oh the men will take care of it"...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:11 AM
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You do not grant independence, you conquer it. If women failed to be independent it's their fault. As usual, you want things to be handed down to you. You're just waiting for men to make it comfortable then ask "what about me?".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:09 AM
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Yet they don't and never have. Funny heh. No matter how you cut it, if the premise on which feminism is based, that is, that sex is a class, then unlike men, women have never shown any ability to be independent, aside from the wishful thinking of those failing to notice that everything that modern life has brought them, has been done by men. Ungrateful to the core. As TRP says, past good deeds are worthless for the female mind. And so women think they have built anything in this society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:05 AM
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I think the criticism comes because men need women to need them. They do. If women actually stop needing them, then they have nothing to bargain with women to get what they need (sex). Men do not need to bargain with women to have sex. They do so only because they want to. There's plenty of places and times where men never bothered with what women wanted in this department: fathers told their daughters, this is your husband. Period. As a group, men rely for nothing from women. Not even for sex o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:17 AM
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Independent women are not dependent on A man, but they are dependent on MEN. For all the modern life they need to be independent. So women, either individually or as a group, are not independent from men. However, since men depend on men, they are independent as a group. Of course, as an individual everyone relies on the group, but as a group, only men are independent. Men depend for nothing on women, except reproduction. So they don't depend on women for their own personal life, only for the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:58 AM
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I don't think people think they should be thankful, just not bitchy about it or claiming it's harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:47 PM
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How to know if they want to be asked out unless by asking them out? Just think about it. No successful chance was ever achieved by not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:43 PM
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Sorry but chastity belts are a myth. They never existed. They were invented in the 18th century as a fake medieval tool... This already doesn't bode well on the way you present the whole thing... So the so called rise of male sexlessness is only existing because of your poor grasp of history. It's nothing new. Female sexuality is controlled by whatever benefits the upper class men of the time. Today is no different from a thousand years ago when suddenly the Church decided that marriage was a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:33 AM
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Keyword: OR. Not “and”. You need to understand the difference between inclusive or and exclusive or. "I can have some tea or coffee" ie it means either is ok. Women fuck in relation OR some hot guy means either is ok: alpha fucks, beta bucks. They can do both because they are not always in relation. Your whole unsaid argument is resting on the premise that "or" can only be understood as the exclusive "or" (XOR) and that anyone not understanding it like that is "moving the goal posts" while it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:38 AM
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Has it ever occurred to you that the kind of men you wish to be around maybe just don't want to be around you, and that's why you are stuck with men you don't want to be around? Also, men not bringing alcohol? Definitely, it's because they don't want to bring alcohol with you, because basically you request they bring 50 bucks worth of drinks while you bring a water melon...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:21 AM
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"Lets save all lives of men, and let all the women be raped." Nobody said that. Only you concluded that it was an alternative.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 07:11 AM
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It was clear to you now, that when I said that this is not how society works, because monogamy is widespread with the exception of divorces, unlike your idiotic claim about "man impregnated ten women at the same". Dude, we were talking about war, NOT about normal times. And I showed you that even during normal times, more females reproduce than males because one male can impregnate ten females. If this is too hard to understand, I understand your lack of ability to put forth a coherent argument …
/r/MensRights07/06/21 04:55 AM
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You are an moron if you think that this is how the society really works, just stop it, you are embarrassing Again, no argument, and an insult and a strawman (you shifted from war environment to "how society works", nice try). So to recap your argument so far: - It is better to let a man being murdered than a woman being raped. - In wars, civilian men are killed also because of their potential reproduction ability And you dig yourself further in with that last position while trying to dig yoursel…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 04:21 AM
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No. Porn 10 years ago or now have the same availability and acceptability. What changed is the importance of online dating but definitely not how society views porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:50 AM
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Well you don't reply because you have nothing to reply. To even argue like you that a man is more important than a woman for reproduction while basic biology shows that you can have one man impregnate ten women at the same time but not ten men impregnate one woman at the same time shows how idiotic your thinking is.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 03:48 AM
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indeed. And if given the choice, they would rather save a woman from murder than one from rape. However, they'd rather let a man die than a woman be raped. It's pretty telling of their valuation of life. Man's life= bug's life. Woman's life = human life. This shows that they do not value the life of men. This mindset of male disposability is actually what allows mindless killings, because "who care? they're just males". And the same people wonder afterward why the places that have such mindset a…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:36 AM
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The man poses a physical danger to the perpetrators both because of his fighting ability and because of his reproductive ability. That's nonsense. It is women who were raped to reproduce with the enemy. Nobody cares about the reproducing ability of men, only one is enough, and nobody knows the real father anyway. The fighting ability is non existent when there are no weapon. The whole point is that the UN and others thought it was better to leave men to die. Protecting from murder or protecting …
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:32 AM
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They were also killed, womans and girls systematically raped/impregnant. Then why were the men left to die? That's the whole point. And pretending that being killed is better than being raped is the max cope out of the dishonest and immoral people. Who the fuck do you think you are to decide that other people are better off dead? Unbelievable to have such amount of self-righteousness and supremacism together...
/r/MensRights07/06/21 01:44 AM
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Pornography was as available ten years ago. It's thus not an convincing cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:37 PM
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Because unarmed male civilians have the possibility to resist? Reality showed that no they don't and they were systematically killed, unlike women and children, but still, people like you are so ok with male disposability that you're ok to have men slaughtered rather than your ideology questioned.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 11:26 PM
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Sure but there's no need to make them your enemy. Especially if they have clout.
/r/MGTOW206/06/21 12:54 PM
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Gather evidence, and once you get the job, go see the father and say: "Look, I appreciate so much what you've done for me, but I cannot ignore this blatant cheating. Provide evidence. Then say that for the sake of his family and because you still have so much respect for him etc., you will just end things discretely and try to have as less repercussion as possible for everyone. THEN, you inform the GF that you're out.
/r/MGTOW206/06/21 05:46 AM
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As soon as the whole consent thing is reduced to power, then female on male rape issues often have the vibe of "See? We women can also sometimes be more powerful than men. You go girls, so be mindful a bit ok?" As long as the general differences in sexuality between men and women are not acknowledged or only when convenient, the whole point is moot.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 05:24 AM
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It's nothing new. Here is a study about the conflict in ex Yugoslavia in the 90s: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3594843 Of all noncombatants in the former Yugoslavia, adult civilian men were most likely to be massacred by enemy forces. Why, therefore, did international agencies mandated with the "protection of civilians" evacuate women and children, but not military-age men, from besieged areas?
/r/MensRights06/06/21 12:28 AM
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Don't confuse Western women and American women. Most western women do not have student debt like American women. When university tuition is 300 euros a year, student debt isn't a big issue.
/r/MGTOW204/06/21 03:58 AM
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95% of women are 22 at some point in their lives, so being 22 doesn't really exclude anyone. 95% of men will never be 6 foot tall in their lives, so that criterion exclude a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:54 AM
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Oh god. I thought Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the guys who gave men bad rep. Like dude, who cares about this kind of shit?
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 10:09 AM
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Fortunately, average and mean are the same, though since you're smarter than average, feel free to enlighten me I guess it's median in English. As I said, if everybody is average, noone is stupider than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:23 AM
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Think about how stupid the average person is. Then remember that 50% of people are stupider than that. That never fails to crack me up. Which only shows that Carlin was bad at math. This is only true if the average and the mean median are the same [and there's only person as the median]. If everybody is average, then 0% of people are stupider than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:33 AM
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Sample is not random nor selected by quota so it is not representative of the population.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 01:52 PM
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In the US, men cannot drive as a punishment for something unrelated like non payment of child support. If you cannot see what it's gotta to do with feminism, it's probably because you're not very intelligent.
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 10:46 AM
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Whether bad or not, feminism is based on the assumption that women are a social class and thus men also are. Nothing's further from the truth. Even first wave feminism was like that. It demanded voting rights for women in a time when not all men actually could vote or without having to do the duties attached to that right.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:51 PM
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If you think that biological reproductive urges are by definition beneficial to the individual, I suggest you study biology a bit more. These are beneficial to the species, not always the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:41 PM
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Well my whole point is that it's moot to talk about individual characteristics if we have no idea of the mean. So is a 30 years old woman who had 10 sex partners in her life a slut or not? If the mean is 2 then yes. If the mean is 40 then no. That's why women don't like men talking about trends and general characteristics because they know that such knowledge will be used as a baseline against which their individual behavior will be judged. And they don't want to be judged whatsoever, they want …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:43 AM
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You said and I quote "why do we ignore the fact that women prefer men their own age? " And men prefer 22 years old women until they're 50. That's why we ignore preference and talk about actual pairing. This is exactly why women think they "settle" because they compare reality with their fantasy and thus fail to realize that they didn't settle, they were settled for because it's men who decide if there's a relationship, not women. Women decide whether there's sex or when to end a relationship, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:36 AM
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It matters to his dick. Men of any age can fuck a 22 years old. That's what nature intended to: impregnate that fertile female. That's why there's no change if the age of women that men find most attractive while for women, the most attractive men are slightly above their age throughout their fertile life. Because they need the man to support them. Married men are more likely to have kids then men who never marry so that alone means marriage benefits men How so? How many men have been baby trapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:31 AM
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19 years old women don't enter LTR any longer, at least not for marriage purpose. What they call LTR is their uni boyfriend. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about LTR with kids and marriage. Women who are 25 or 28 aiming for such LTR definitely do include men in their early thirties. Most women if that age ride the CC thinking that at 35 they'll have the same choice that they have at 25 so there's no reason for them to hurry. And then the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:25 AM
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What do you mean by bag? Fucking? Of course lots of men in their thirties fuck women in their early twenties. Few want to be in a relationship with them though. Women have no problem with that, they call it their wild phase. Women here confuse those two things. They try to say that a 21 chick never ever fucks the post doc 32 years old TA or barman just because they indeed don't enter relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:58 AM
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If you don't have the average, you cannot determine the variance. That's the issue here. As long as people refuse to acknowledge the mean, there's no point of talking about how a data point deviates from it. Hence the problem with girls thinking each and every single one of them is special and not like the other girls...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:53 AM
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Anything she disagrees with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:23 AM
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Sure but once you have the base behavior, it's only a question of determining the variance of the individual data point. It's more useful than projecting fantasies that exist only because they've been fed to you by the media and all the politically correct BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:15 AM
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Marriage doesn't benefit men whatsoever. It benefits their children if they want any but if not, a man is crazy to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:57 AM
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Women splatter layers of make up. It sure works for a while but men are aware that the age of a woman isn't to be judged when she's all made up. It's relatively easy to narrow down. Just ask them astrological sign and then their Chinese sign. That does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:54 AM
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And men prefer 22 years old women. Doesn't make them all pair with one. The fact that you can not differentiate between preferences and actual options is pretty telling of the level of delusion so common nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:50 AM
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As countless studies have shown (starting with the famous OK Cupid one) when asked to rate attractiveness of women, men grade them on a normal distribution. When women are asked to rate men's attractiveness, they grade them along a Pareto distribution. We can argue the reasons for that, but we have to first recognize this fact. Reasons can range from difference of demand due to biological impulse to women a self-absorbed delusional twats. All can play a role. The question is how important each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:01 AM
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And you realize that a 5 years difference means lots of 20 something women are in bed with thirty something men? I love how women here are trying to deny the fact they want older men and are misunderstanding what an average is. A third of US married couples have the husband older by at least 4 years. If you include non married, that's gonna be a lot. Pretending that it's a rare occurrence is laughable. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:30 AM
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Age for women is not just a number since peak attractiveness for women is 22 for men of any age. It's an objective fact. And women know that better than anyone else, that's why they make up and lie about their age. The most important number for a man is how much he has in bank. Ask Harvey Weinstein or Lady Gaga. That's why peak attractiveness age of men depends on the age of women: it's subjective, and get swayed by a sports car.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:25 AM
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Did we not already establish that the second wife was 35 and the first wife was 20? No we didn't. Who gets married at 20? First wife was a 6 at 27 when her 30 years old husband married her, and she was a 4 when she filed for divorce 6 years later. Second wife was an 8 at 27 when he married her at 40, 4 years after divorce wife #1, just after being a senior partner and buying his second Porsche. 6 vs 8 at the same age for the wife, hence a better model. As for the destiny of wife #1, she remarrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:46 AM
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How are options better when women who get married early 20s divorce at rates much higher than those who married early 30s? Which stats are you referring to? There could be many explanations. For example women of lower classes marry younger and divorce more thus it looks like age is a factor while there is a confounding variable, class. Divorce rate calculated as #divorce/#marriages is subject to a LOT of influences, like size of the cohort groups, etc. so which stat are you referring to? ​ Do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:34 AM
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Old men, like over 35. I'd only date 25-31. Preferably 27/28. I bet you're unable to see the difference between 5'11 and 6'1 or between 31 and 36. You are just illustrating how ridiculous these laundry lists of characteristics for men that women have are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:22 AM
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You’re moving the goalposts in an attempt to prove a flawed premise, I think you have a problem with logic. By definition you do not prove a premise, it's an unproven proposition. If you attempt to then prove this proposition, you of course need to use it as a conclusion of another syllogism. Calling this "moving the goalposts" is hilarious: it's called not begging the question... ​ which is that women in their 20s want old men in their mid-late thirties. You call men in their thirties old? How …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:20 AM
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No. But much higher status, which women describe by saying "he's so much more mature" when she meant he gets into the VIP section at the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:01 AM
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...yes Let me guess. You're under 25 aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:41 AM
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Also most 20s women are not interested in older men especially the kind of older men who couldn’t attract women when they were in their 20s. Do RP men think the Chads die off at 30 years old? The 30s Betas still compete with the 30s Alphas. Can you stop seeing it from the woman's perspective for a second? You must see this diachronically. Of course the 30s Chads and Betas do compete. But they don't compete for the same thing. The Chad in their 30s compete to fuck the women in their 20s. These wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:26 AM
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My point is if young women have such high relationship value why are any men leaving them as single moms? Men are NOT leaving women. It is women who divorce men. You're assuming that never married single mothers were in a relationship. Most of the time they were not: they were having sex and thought they were in a relationship. If they really were in a relationship, they'd be married. ​ The man who got her pregnant why doesn’t he just stay with her she’s such a high value commodity right? The ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:00 AM
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No. No more games meaning that they won't accept someone who is unsure of what they want. They aren't going to sit and waste time on a dude that doesn't know what he wants. Yeah right, as if they had offered only FWB situations throughout their 20s. They just did not realize that instead of trying to get a relationship with someone they can have sex with, they should have sex with someone they can get in a relationship with. The two groups are NOT the same. And women realize that only once the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:49 AM
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It was Australia. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6996829/Good-Samaritan-says-woman-accused-assaulting-fixing-car-up.html
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 03:10 AM
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So you're saying the established, richer lawyer is of lower quality than the young lawyer that's going to divorce her in 10 years? No. I'm saying that the never married established richer lawyer will not go for her because they are much rarer than young promising ones, because he has way more options than when he was a young promising one. At best she'll be a second wife with step kids in the picture. It's not what women want initially, but that's what they have to settle for. Also it's women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:20 AM
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Women in their 20s want men in their 20s who can still fuck and look good, and have some cultural and generational things in common with them. Study after study PROVES that women want men who are within 2 years of their own age. So sure, they can WANT whatever they want, but that is not the issue here. The issue is what they actually get. A 35 year old man may be able to fuck longer than a guy in his 40s and certainly longer than a man in his 50s, but he ain’t got shit on your average 20 somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:14 AM
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How much is a 26 year old lawyer making compared to 48 year old one? Also this doesn’t change the fact that men in their 30s are competing with these old lawyers. There are much less 48 yr old singles. Most of them are already taken or out of the market. The single ones are mostly not willing to commit and stay single. At best, you'd be a second wife. ​ Think about it if a 32 year old man refuses to date women in their 30s because “he’s made it” his pool is 21-29 year old women meanwhile the 32 …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:09 AM
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They really aren’t I mean if that were the case there wouldn’t be an epidemic of young single moms. Having a child is solely the woman's decision. The fact that single motherhood is widespread has nothing to do with the ability of women to get into relationship since now sex and relationships are disconnected. Women decide whether to have sex and kids. Men decide whether there will be a relationship. Single motherhood means that the woman was presumptuous. I like that you recognize that women al…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:55 AM
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Scoring means "being in a fulfilling relationship or not being in a fulfilling relationship" No, that's a true scottsman fallacy. "Fulfilling" could mean anything. You can only see IF someone is in a relationship, and WHO they are with. How they feel about it is completely subjective and subject to change overnight. Quite a lot of women in their 30s DO wallow on their missed opportunities. They call it "no more games" because they realize too late that they can no longer play the game and that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:49 AM
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Who thinks like this? It's either they are scoring or they are not. No it's not. For sex or relationship, it's not just a yes/no proposition. It's also with who that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:39 AM
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You're forgetting that at 26 you'll be the first wife of a young lawyer. At 36 you'll be the 2nd wife of an established one that you'd have rejected at 26 for being creepy and old. It's not about just the number of options, but the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:31 PM
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Options for what? Sex? TRP doesn't say that. It says that the options for LTR for women in their 20s are better than in their 30s, and options for sex for men are better in their 30s than in their 20s. Women still have options for LTR in their 30s but thinking they're gonna score better then than when in their 20s is just wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:27 PM
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You think a 27 years old woman sees a 35 years old chasing her as creepy and desperate? That's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:18 PM
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I think you mistakenly think that going your own way must mean do everything yourself.
/r/MGTOW229/05/21 10:49 PM
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More like their femalehood. Don't forget that nowadays you're a woman just because you feel like it and say so.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 09:19 AM
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And male fragility.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 08:59 AM
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no object permanence (when they aren't actively talking to you, you don't exist to them), Astute observation. I wonder if it's because everything that's put in front of them is like an Instagram post...
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 08:49 AM
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What's funnier is that the mystical 6ft is 180cm in metric countries, ie most of the world, whether people are taller or shorter in average than in the US. This shows how this 6ft thing is just another status issue. It's even surer since most women cannot tell if someone is 5'9 or 6'1. They're really bad at it yet treat it as an absolute requirement.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 01:53 AM
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The issue is indeed reciprocity. But there's another issue. Women just want to be listened to without much input. Men are the opposite. So it means that when men conform to women's style (just listen but do not offer solution), it's draining for men because it's pointless for them. When women listen like women (just listen without offering solutions to problems), then again it's pointless for men. On the other hand, the only downside for women is to receive unsolicited advice from men. They get …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:31 AM
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Notice how the initial statistics is 78% of women have experienced X, Y OR Z, and the first one is "a suggestive comment". Women, the way to combat suggestive comments from men is to stop wearing make up. Well played L'Oréal...
/r/MensRights27/05/21 12:48 AM
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All data points are anecdotes. The question is how much they fit in the trend. There are outliers for everything, including women's behavior. The whole issue is not that these exist, but those are not representative. Studying outliers can be as useful as studying main trends. But we shouldn't confuse one for the other.
/r/MGTOW227/05/21 12:36 AM
1

Nah. Emotional tampon means unpaid labor as a psychologist. You never see that one taken into account...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:49 PM
7

Women display in group bias to a level difficult to understand for men.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 10:52 AM
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Emotive rather than factual statement You're the one who wrote: "Again, bullocks, probably due to lack of exposure to women out from behind a keyboard. " Basically calling me an incel or virgin or any variation of these comments that women like you think are disqualifying while they only show how your default strategy is the shaming and insults because women do not value the message on its merits but only on the merit of the messenger. That's why character assassination is a favorite of the fema…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 10:37 AM
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That is factual, not an emotive statement. Well, you can call it factual if you want to say that that's actually how you felt. Sorry but reiterating "that's not a men's right comment" doesn't make it more sensical.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 10:43 PM
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I'm not shaming feminists for liking rape. They do what they want. They're the ones centering almost everything on that (never on men providing them tap water and electricity, I wonder why). The fact that you confused you feeling shame and me shaming is very telling how for you your feelings are what determines reality. And of course, after shame, here comes the hate. It's so stereotypical that it's funny. You have not addressed once the argument. I'll help you: the reason why feminist discourse…
/r/MensRights25/05/21 02:21 PM
5

She just meant she just doesn't bathe often and thus she stinks....
/r/MensRights25/05/21 01:51 PM
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When you have too much choice, any slight issue is used as an elimination criterion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:37 PM
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Again, bullocks, probably due to lack of exposure to women out from behind a keyboard Lol. What's next? Calling people virgin? Women have a hard time getting away from the shaming and insults. Just make your point. When asked do you believe in equal pay, Equal pay is already a law and a fact. The myth of the gender pay gap is still strong among those who don't understand basic statistics, like these "pro" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7hbNuToCOg It's not my fault if you haven't noticed that fem…
/r/MensRights25/05/21 01:31 PM
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If feminists didn't like rape they wouldn't portray anything imaginable as rape. They have an obsession about it that is definitely something pathological. It's like KKK members who see everything as a race issue. And ID pols in general. It's a common disease of the mind of those who like witch hunts. They're monomaniacal.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 12:23 PM
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Don't want to burst your bubble guys but the photo and the text are unrelated. The hair dye is on the counter and the girl has just dyed her hair with it. Guy just dyed his chest hair with it for fun and took a photo. Someone later added the comment. If you think that period blood will dye that much hair, I suggest you research how much blood there is in actual period, even a heavy one. I don't know what is sadder: that people here fall so easily for this kind of posts or that this kind of posts…
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 03:21 AM
3

It's not just semen that is required. It's all sorts of resources: food, shelter, comfort, etc.
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 02:12 AM
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I like how the Guardian and others consider that filing at police that you were raped automatically means that there was rape. They treat rape complaints as actual rapes. As if false accusations have never ever existed. Feminists are a dishonest bunch as they are not interested into finding false positives, only false negatives. They just want to boost their numbers. They seem to like rapes. Probably a fantasy of them.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 01:53 AM
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And yes, the West has historically relied on a narrative that white people are superior genetically and culturally Lol. White as in Aryan or Slav? Because you seem to have missed a few history lessons right there if you think somehow both of these white people were chummy with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:39 PM
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Conveniently left Denmark out. I literally loled at you thinking that racism is specifically an issue in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:15 AM
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Several possible explanations: Many Asian women don't like Asian men Asian men bring a foreign bride from their country of origin thus forcing the local Asian women to marry out A combination of the two, and maybe some other reasons I have not thought about yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:17 AM
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78%!?????? HOLY SHIT That's probably because it's most likely Canadian men bringing back their Japanese bride from Japan, considering how low that figure is (total 33K).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:15 AM
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yet asian women are twice as likely to marry outside their race than asian men, why is this? How many asian men marry a bride from the home country? If that percentage is no different than from women, then that discrepancy is purely on the females choosing outside their racial group. If not, then the difference can be explain by a higher tendency from males to go get a bride from their family's country of origin, which forces the females to marry out locally, hence outside their race. But of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:02 AM
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50% out-marriage is bizarre. Not if you're 5% of the total population.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:57 AM
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Welcome to western culture "Western" as including Spain, Denmark and Greece, or "Western" as a synonym of the US? If the latter, then say "US".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:57 AM
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If Asians are 5% of the US population, then in a perfectly equal world, they would marry another Asian only 1 out 20 times, not 10 times out of 20. It is unavoidable since they are such a tiny minority. Remember that if every US minority married outside their race, white (who are 70%) would still marry white at a 75% rate. It would not be because of anything BUT numbers. What is odd is that Blacks are marrying blacks at a rate of 80% or so. Minorities that are 13% of the total population can onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:54 AM
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I'm not saying two years per kid. I'm saying that overall, two or three children set back women's career about two years in total. Nobody flinches at a gap year and wasted year in your twenties, and it's not going to impact you much. Doing that for babies in your thirties is way more impactful yet the overall discourse is to say go ahead and do that in your thirties rather than your twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:57 AM
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You dig further. The article you link to relies on one book whose author says (follow the link): Gregory reveals that large numbers of women succeed in having children between 35 and 44 by the usual means (one in seven kids born today has a mom in that age range), and that many of those who don’t succeed nonetheless find alternate routes to happy families via egg donation or adoption. And they’re glad they waited. The same linked article reminds us that 85% of kids are born to women under 35, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:49 AM
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But that’s the point, there’s less chance it will set you back significantly if you’re already somewhat established. That's the opposite of what the data show. Women lose in earnings compared to men when they have children and the 30s is also when people's earnings dramatically increase. You'd better lose 20% of your wage at 25 than at 35. And contrary to what you think, "once you're established" is precisely when a career takes off. And that's the time when biology reminds women that they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:50 AM
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If child leave sets you back in your career, you'd better do it in your 20s when you have no career and not in your 30s, the decade which actually define your career. So the advice of "take care of your career then have children" is actually wrong. Almost noone has a career at 25. If you have a career, you're kicking in the high gear as you reach 35. If that's when you stop to have two babies then it's going to impact you more than when you were right out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:24 AM
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That's only in cultures where the fathers have no say on whom their daughter marry. Women's rights have never been women conquering anything. It's always been fathers allowing stuff to their daughters. Already in the Roman era, it's what happened, for example with the disappearance of the traditional form of marriage, cum manu. And when there's no fathers around, then it's especially noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:29 PM
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Because it is.
/r/MGTOW20/05/21 10:27 AM
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That's Boko Haram. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram They killed school boys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_2014_Buni_Yadi_massacre) and realized nobody cared. They kidnapped school girls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chibok_schoolgirls_kidnapping) and suddenly you had the US first lady showing a sign "Bring back our girls". They know what's up...
/r/MGTOW19/05/21 08:38 AM
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So you're blaming the fact that women are made to put aside their life and job when they have kids Says who? It's funny that you consider having kids not part of women's lives since they put it aside when they have some according to you. and then struggle monetarily when they need to leave They don't need to leave. If the dad was like that prior, then why did she open her legs and reproduce? Assuming the consequences of their actions seems impossible for women. If she baby trapped him, same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:02 AM
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Put away your shaming language woman and argue against the point you think is wrong instead of saying what you think is attractive, which noone cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:53 AM
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As a parent I know I would do any and everything to be there for my kids and the same goes for my husband. Neither of us would let doubt or assumptions or even money get in the way. That's all well in theory, but when the husband is responsible for producing money or else he lands in jail, he definitely has to take into account how much he's willing to burn in a fight with the ex while most courtrooms outright favor mothers over fathers. This mindset is all well for women who can eventually stic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:09 AM
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The men's rating is like a proper normal distribution. https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 02:04 AM
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We don't have the data so considering the shape of the curve the median cannot be more than 1 with such a peak at 0.8. It's not like it looks like a plateau.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 11:23 PM
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Because lots of people don't have the resources to spend on a maybe you'll get some custody peddled by the divorce industry while they're already on the hook for child support, alimony and paying the ex legal fees on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:20 PM
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"when contested" ie when resources are spent to. You're assuming on the reasons when it's not contested. You're missing the point on alleged or proven abuse. If it increases the chance for the father to get custody when these accusations are leveled against him, it's probably because they are false and appear so. Still how many men have relented custody because the ex has told them they'll accuse him of abuse? Like Amber Heard told Johnny Depp: "You're a man, who's going to believe you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:13 PM
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The grey line peaks at the first tick, which is a third of 2.5 so 0.83. I don't see how you can eye ball it to 1.8-2...
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 11:08 PM
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Dude, the most used ranking in the link you posted is 1 out of 5. The 1.8-2 you're mentioning seems to be the blue line from the (horrible) graph and it's not women's rating. It's the message distribution (female to male) which means that women think most men are 1 out of 5 and messages the (according to them) 2 out of 5 most
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 10:45 PM
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What’s even worse is when there is alleged or proven spousal abuse the man is 72% more likely to win custody I guess if alleged and proven are lumped together is because they cannot be separated, which casts serious doubt on the reality of the proven. The whole schtick about "men don't get custody because they don't ask for it" is forgetting that people ask what they realistically can get. The same that claim that thousands of rapes go unreported because victims think they're not going to get ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:17 PM
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And the difference in money is because of gender. Because single fathers fare better than single mothers. It's as if men have been trained better than women to provide or conversely it's as if women have been used to be provided for and when the ATM is gone then they're unable to do the legwork themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:07 PM
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You need citations not because of lmao but because it takes 2 minutes to find literature about it. Oh the work! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6982282/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:03 PM
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Because birthing a kid is solely the responsibility of the mother since women choose whether to bring a pregnancy to term or not. A single mother chose to be a mother, and most of the time she also chose to be single. A single father had a woman choose to make him a father and most likely also to make him single as women overwhelmingly iniate divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:49 PM
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If husbands and wives exchanged 100 bucks every time they fuck, it would increase the GDP by that much.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 09:23 PM
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Their death was never for France. It was for the Legion. That's actually the motto of the Legion: Legio Patria Nostra.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 02:52 AM
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Equality according to feminists: head I win, tail you lose.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:12 AM
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Romance is men’s way of obtaining sexual consent. That’s why it’s relevant. No. Giving resources is how men get sex. It can be straightforward, as cash in hand, or more convoluted, through wining and dining and getting a house with fridge full. That's what's called romance and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 03:50 AM
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Feminists feed into this by perpetuating the idea that men are useless at household chores. While studies have shown that men are way more efficient. Single men living alone spend way less time doing these chores than single women living alone, which shows how much more efficient they are at it.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 04:29 PM
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Which gender wants sex more and whines about it constantly to the point of violence? This has nothing to do with what we were talking about. we were talking about romance, not sex. Usual female: deflect in order to not argue the point. Now if you want to argue about sex, then I don't mind. I just find it interesting that you just presented sex as a bargaining chip to exchange it against romance. In effect, you show how for so many females, the affection and the love they show their partner is ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 06:50 AM
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All actions initiated or financed by woman are not romantic, is that right? What actions are you talking about? I'm sure paying your taxes isn't romantic indeed. So I guess the answer is “yes”, only men can do romance, in men’s eyes I just told you that the examples you gave would amount to 50% and you understood it meant 0%??? So yes, paying dinner half the time is indeed a romantic gesture, but it's only half the work. You considered it an achievement to reach half, while for a man it is the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:38 AM
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No man can woo a woman by having her pay for dinner. To gain or maintain is not the same level of work, and it's precisely why you now do pay half the time. Women expect it to be the same precisely because they don't realize the work it is and already congratulate themselves because they "take their turn". You yourself considered it an achievement to be on par with him in the romance department. As for dressing up and making up, you'd do it single anyway so it's not really for him that you do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:01 AM
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If devotion is conditional to being the recipient of resources, then it's not devotion. You see, modern women say I will be devoted to you if you shower me with resources. If it stops, I'll bounce. That's not devotion, that's a paid service.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:05 PM
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You're not more independent from men in general. You're independent from men you're supposed to love. Women now do for their boss what they wouldn't for their husband, while it was the opposite 60 years ago. Let's thus not be surprised that it's not as interesting to be a husband...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:00 PM
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In both options, HE pays and plan for dinner. Women only see the part of "expressing feelings" and are completely blind to the work it takes for romance. For a reason: they benefit from it. When they have to do it, they're quick to call that unpaid labor and how it shouldn't be done for a man because it's oppression. Unpaid labor of men for women is on the other hand considered normal and on top of that women expect men to like it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:57 PM
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Which is? She seems high as fuck and disrespectful throughout so I failed to see what the adios added to the mix I always found interesting how important the charge "contempt" is in the US as if it's more important to be respectful of the judge than of society...
/r/MensRights11/05/21 01:45 AM
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The problem is that’s a month too late for legal recourse. Once you sign that birth certificate the trap has been sprung. It depends where. Laws really vary on this point according to jurisdiction.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 01:25 PM
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The gap exists because the orgasm of males is necessary for reproduction but not that of females. As simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:48 AM
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Given that misogyny is the #1 indicator that a man will beat up a woman Please enlight us with serious studies that show it's the number one factor...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:54 PM
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When we discuss general trends we cannot avoid pointing at trends. Trends don't mean that every data point is on the curve. The fact that so many social problems are caused by young men raised by single mothers must be acknowledged and discussed. And there's plenty of studies already that show that the lack of male role models is a major contributor. But as long as feminism, which sees the sexes as classes, is the prevalent ideology, then this cannot be addressed. Patriarchy is actually a charac…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 07:37 AM
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Except the driving out of fathers from the family unit has been enthusiastically seconded by whom?
/r/MensRights08/05/21 07:26 AM
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That the family unit has been a target from the powers that be, too bad. The issue is why did women, especially in the US black community, have embraced so willingly this effort? And of course they categorically refuse to recognize their own role into this issue. No issue can be solved if those having a major responsibility in it do not take responsibility. You can see this lack of accountability with all the stupid slogans like teach your boys not to rape... Ok, let's admit for a minute that th…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 07:21 AM
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Japan is man's world only at work. Outside of it women rule. They even hold the purse that men slave to fill.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 02:59 AM
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You're confusing several things. On a sociological descriptive point of view, you can indeed differentiate between hyper, homo and hypogamy. But from a psychological point of view, we're talking about a general psychological trait that doesn't always succeed, that's the hypergamy we always refer to when we talk about awalt. They're not all successful but most sure try to, and you can see that by seeing how all women aim higher than them and consider their own sociological level as minimum. As fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:32 AM
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Hypergamy is the rejection of a mate of a status below, ie superior or equal only. It doesn't matter what she is. No man making 200k ever would have as a criterion for a mate "she must make at least as much as me". That's my point. Hypergamy is so ingrained in female psyche that it is still present among the 5 or 1 percenter...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:19 AM
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As in every country, 97% of men are not in government or CEO, yet it's the only thing that matters somehow. Men are not a class, so pretending that Jeff Bezos and Jeff nextdoor are of the same group is disingenuous. Feminism and other forms of identity politics is meant to perpetuate economic disparities: pretending that having duchesses instead of dukes running the show will improve everyone's life is lie. It'll only be better for a few duchesses.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 12:47 AM
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It is already cheap outside main cities. The demographic crush is only happening in the countryside and smaller cities, not in Tokyo.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 12:41 AM
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Why? Hypergamy exists but at that level it's not reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 12:22 AM
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No, profiting in a materialistic way (which you are obviously talking about) to the max would be dating a guy who has a more expensive lifestyle than she has who's paying that way for her. Nobody said to the max. She just wants someone to fund her current lifestyle under the guise that it is also HIS lifestyle. "Oh? You're buying a Porsche? How nice, now WE can drive it." We know, we know... ​ Maybe you shouldn't see it as a list to be ticked, but experience showed a relationship worked best wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:44 PM
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Dude, she’s just expecting alignment with her values. She says nothing about some hypothetical poor dude having to give his up. "Emotionally stable, is in touch with their feelings, can show their vulnerability and be there when I'm vulnerable" and "Patient to my quirks and doesn't get irritated with them easily" If he's not there when she wants and needs, then he's out. Too bad for him if he is in trouble when she is vulnerable or "quirky". Out you go. Also, he needs to put up with her shit and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:42 PM
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Well, yes. "What do you want a guy to be able to give you" does indeed result in a list of....what you want a guy to be able to give you. Nope. It's what a man "brings to the table". That it got translated into "do for me" is very telling. Where exactly does she say this? She says he needs to have "at least some similar hobbies" and "interest in some sort of art." Where does she say he can't have his own interest? How many hobbies and interests do people usually have? not that many. That she wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:36 PM
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She wants someone with the same lifestyle, same hobbies, interests, values, etc. AND able to fund those (oh yeah, not for her, but able to fund HIS, which just so happen to be the same as hers, you know, just by chance and because it is better to be "compatible" in this way...). You know, JUST by chance, this profits her to the max. She reminds me of what Proust wrote about the falsehood of the Guermantes young ladies in Search of Lost time, more than a century ago: the Guermantes young ladies i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:02 PM
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Income - Preferably in the ballpark of my own (>200K) unless the guy is younger and hot. Could make exceptions here for someone who manages their own shit but is in a lower paying industry That's like 95 percentile for men in the US. Right off the bat, your pool is reduced to 5% of US men. I hope you have something to offer for these guys, because they have choice to who they commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:38 PM
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I just don't get why you would want to be vulnerable Women weaponize this. She needs someone who gives her enough ammunition if need be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:29 PM
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The list is pretty much just describing compatibility?! Which point is negotiable for you personally? No it doesn't. She does not want a man that is "compatible" with her, she wants a man that "have the same interests, values, hobbies, etc." AND who can finance all of that (because you know, that also HER lifestyle). Wanting someone "compatible" would have been listed as "someone who is not an obstacle to my hobbies, interests, etc." So she does not want a guy who goes to a boxing match while sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:25 PM
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Not really. Notice how the whole list of what "a man brings to the table" equates "what he can do for me and if not, he'd better be like me". The poor dude cannot even have his own interests despite having to pay for them (which means he has to pay for HER hobbies because she wants a man who can pay for HIS lifestyle which, by some kind of miracle, is also HER lifestyle - same hobbies, values, interests, etc.) Man as a provider and emotional tampon, I guess she found the perfect beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:21 PM
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I guess you aren't gonna answer me, so I'll post it here too. I think my list is pretty reasonable Your list is both unreasonable and vague since you use the word "similar" so often, which does not mean anything. The most unreasonable part is that you expect him to put up with your bitchiness (sorry your "quirks") but you want him to be "emotionally stable" because of course, you don't want to reciprocate. Basically put you on a pedestal (attentive to YOU, caring to YOU, value YOUR pleasure), et…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:13 PM
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Obviously the female ducks like to pass on the genes of rapists...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:06 PM
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Ask why they still use English while it shows Anglophone supremacism and that they should do business in any Siouan languages to show they are not complicit or profiteering from genocide.
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 12:21 PM
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Evolution doesn't care about feelings. You should see how traumatic sex can be for females and males in other species: raping, getting eaten, etc. Basically, feelings about sex matter within the biological framework created by evolution. Women should be happy to have evolved a clitoris, which entice them to risk their lives through pregnancy, and males should be glad females aren't snacking on them after sex. Basically OP is complain about some biological traits: just like Dworkin you complain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 11:59 AM
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Feminism is wrong in its very premise that men are a class. I mean, did they not read Marx? Same for women: pretending that duchesses are oppressed by peasants is just a way to justify living like a duchess off the work of peasants.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 10:45 AM
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It's not a different issue. If men always pay for a bad outcome while women rarely do, although their bad outcome can indeed be more serious, it's wrong to assume that women should fear bad outcomes more than men. Hence men are right to assume by default that women are gold diggers because I'm case of unsuccessful relationship, whoever is in the wrong, men always pay resources. While women pay only in the rare case of unilateral violent abuse (let's remember that women are unilaterally violent t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:11 AM
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A man can divorce a disrespectful wife, but he'll have to pay her for being disrespectful. A woman can divorce an abusive husband, and she'll get paid for it and chances are he'll land in jail for a bit too. No matter what happens, men pay. For the consequences of their own actions, that, I have no problem with. But they also pay for the consequences of women's actions too. That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:21 AM
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More serious crime happens more rarely. If you think warranted to fear every day you're gonna get killed, then how should you behave about the much higher possiblity of being robbed? Sure men do kill women. But women routinely and with the help of society steal from men. If you think the lower risk of being killed should be normally and routinely considered by women, then you have to accept to generalize the view that women are thieves who defraud men of the fruit of their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:10 AM
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Here, some reading if you can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:05 AM
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Do you worry every day about dying, or that you need gas? Yet you know that both will happen... Being aware of awalt is about know that it will happen. This doesn't mean that men consider that it'll happen now. Maybe they should though. The question is about whether you should worry about when, and now being when, not about if, because we not that it'll happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:41 AM
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If women were under believed, then false accusations would not be a thing. They are a thing because women are believed too easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:33 AM
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They will have law enforcement put you in jail for no reason or just smear you on social media. Sure women don't kill men, they have other men do their dirty deeds. Not even able to do that themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:31 AM
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Considering how the definition of rape has been extended, it happens to all of them once a year at least. It's like the term "survivor". It's to a point where you are a survivor of last week's traffic jam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:27 AM
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That would be like talking about how you feel to your mugger, or more accurately to your pickpocket: "Come on! I do need my wallet and I put so much effort to earn that money. Don't take it from me like that!" Yeah no, the pickpocket will just laugh on top of it. So sure, rape is more serious, but there are way more mugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:24 AM
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Which then brings the question of why most women have a need to be constantly entertain? It's because 1. they live in secured world built by men. If they had to fetch water at a river every day instead of turning on the tap, they would welcome peace and quiet. And this made them used to having men fulfill their needs. And 2. It's because they are too vapid to be their own source of wonder. So of course they turn to men to do something about it, like for the rest of their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:30 PM
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Men are maybe weak but somehow they are still supposedly lording over women... I guess that makes women even weaker.
/r/MGTOW04/05/21 11:03 PM
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When you age, you lose this baby face that Julie Delpy definitely had, and you dry up. They both dried up but it looks cool on a man, it looks like a weathered tough guy. On a woman on the other hand, since their first asset is their youth, this loss is a big one.
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 10:51 AM
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Power comes in two forms: the pure social interaction, and force. Women never consider the second one because they are shielded from force by society, because they would never win. Men know that with abuse of power can come the violent response, so even power tripping assholes know when they'd better not cross line that will unleash a hook to the mouth. Women do not know and are not aware of these limits because society makes men reluctant to act against a woman. That's why women abuse power the…
/r/MGTOW01/05/21 12:31 AM
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It was not changed. The guy you are replying to confuses the definition of rape in the FBI unified crime report, which is for statistic purposes, and the 50 different criminal laws defining rape at state level upon which people are actually prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:17 PM
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You seem to confuse the definition of rape in laws of the different US states and the definition of rape by the FBI for keeping statistics. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:12 PM
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It's just to show that unlike what was claimed, it's not enough in legalese because judges can and do interpret in many jurisdiction that "force to penetrate" can only be on the victim. The UK also. And the US doesn't have one definition I suspect because rape is a state crime so there's probably 50 definitions and as many interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 11:53 AM
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No it's not enough. In France for example the law just mentions penetration but the highest court ruled that this means penetration on the victim only, thus making it impossible for women to be condemned for rape by forcing intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 01:09 AM
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Women being infantilized? By who? Their mother... It's never women's fault. Ever. The issue is that women either deny the way they act, or deny their own responsibility in their actions, or deny that reality even exists. Women are hypergamous. Fact. Why? Because they want to be. Yet they never recognize the consequences their behavior has on men. (Yet they demand men bend over backwards to accommodate women). Yeah average dude complains that average woman would rather be the 3rd cum dumpster of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:35 AM
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And as for the harassment issues, any man who has been to a Red light district and been constantly accosted by offers of "massages" or better, understand that too much attention can be a pain. However, it's better than dying on the side of the road while noone cares. There is nothing wrong to put issues you experience at the forefront of your own worries and efforts. HOWEVER, it is disingenuous to pretend that because they're yours, then they're the most important. Just like yeah, no being able …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:48 PM
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Accountants are like lawyers: where you needed twenty of them 30 years ago, you only need two now. So it was a good career a generation ago, but it's no longer the case. It produces too many of them, with few positions left. Automation will kill these jobs like they did with factory workers in the 80s. Translating is also a dead end. Very, very few positions left in these fields.
/r/MGTOW27/04/21 12:49 PM
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https://www.removeddit.com/r/simpleliving/comments/my99mc/at_24_i_quit_my_job_to_be_a_homemaker/
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 12:31 AM
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Social class is not just income. It's also education. The two are related but are not completely dependent. Women marrying down education wise actually tend to marry up in income. Hypergamy... https://theconversation.com/does-being-smart-and-successful-lower-your-chances-of-getting-married-100169
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:50 PM
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Because behind all their independent and brave facade, they're women: insecure to the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:50 AM
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Feminists are only concerned with men of power because women, in their natural hypergamy, only see men above their own station. All the lower class men are just not considered as men, thus feminists only see men as men of power. Hence their rhetoric about patriarchy, and men controlling society, etc. It's the apex fallacy caused by their hypergamic tendency of only seeing high power men as men. The others are mere support staff.
/r/MensRights20/04/21 03:19 PM
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I get rejected, a lot. A. Lot. Please quantify. How many times has this happened to you in your teens? In your twenties? In your thirties?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:10 AM
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I suspect Paradis just got tired of him cheating on her. He's Johnny Depp. He could and still can bed a different scandinavian model every day. He fell for the pussy trap, but that's a biological urge that nobody deinies. That's why we say don't put your dick in crazy. Going for the better pussy is the monkey branching of males. Females go for the better status. However, if every woman can climb or try to, many men know they don't have the choice of pussy. Johnny Depp is in a different category.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:47 AM
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It's gonna soon become like "medical" marijuana...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:44 AM
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"And the opinion of western society" was the initial comment. Obama won a Nobel peace prize while drone bombing to oblivion. I take it as "western society" being okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:00 AM
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Females have a marked tendency to condemn what others do while doing it themselves. Slapping is one example. The issue is the double standard and unlike what you first said, a slap is against the law, not because of the slap, but when done by males. Thus what's condemned as violence isn't the use of force per se, but the use of force by the wrong people or against the wrong people. In reality it's not about violence, it's about considering some people superior to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:40 PM
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Except when it's about bombing the shit out of others. The same societies that are quick to condemn force as violence when you slap a kid or a bitch often have no problem to drone bomb a school or a wedding in far away places. In a very feminine way: don't do to me what I can do to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:23 PM
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Violence is wrong full stop. Except violence is just illegitimate force. By just saying "violence is wrong" you just skirt the argument by claiming that the force used was indeed illegitimate without arguing why. The question stays: was this violence or legitimate use of force?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:45 PM
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Because hypergamy. Even fully independent women are hypergamous. At least their level is their basic requirements, including age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:08 AM
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Come back when you're at least in college. If the comment "since high school" was said, it's obvious that the freshman in question is a freshman in college...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:06 AM
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Dude, it's even a law principle... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mater_semper_certa_est
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:08 PM
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I'm looking forward to the Cassation court of that case. The appeal court saying "yeah she defamed him but in good faith so it's all ok" is nuts. Considering how most magistrates in France have been women for a long time, I am not too surprised either though. We'll see if the top court will accept such ruling (hoping the dude will appeal).
/r/MensRights07/04/21 07:23 AM
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In the US, caucasian and hispanic are two different races. Spaniards are hispanic thus not caucasians. What's so hard to follow?
/r/MensRights04/04/21 01:55 PM
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Also who the hell says that Spanish people aren't white in the US? Hispanic is the category for Spanish speakers.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 12:21 PM
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Most poor in the West are white," source? Are you that lazy? It takes two minutes to find the numbers. Which country do you want and in what category? Even in the US, the most diverse of the Western countries, and thus the one with the lowest proportion of whites, half of the poor are white. And I'm not gonna go into the fact that in the US, if you're from Spain, you're not white. What do you think it is in Europe whose population is overly white? It seems you think only minorities are poor in t…
/r/MensRights04/04/21 05:07 AM
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This all seems to basically say that women are poorer than men. I'm not sure what you're drawing with this. You cannot at once measure income gap without failing to account for the redistribution gap. Women gain MASSIVE income from men's taxes, yet these are not factored in the so called age gap of course because this is only about work income. Same with the military, which is massively male. Why the selectivity in subsidies? Military subsidies is about industry, not so much wages. In any cases,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:02 AM
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Well, he's responsible for their decision. It takes two to tango. Both him and her are responsible. No. The decision to turn an embryo into a baby is the decision of the woman ONLY. She decides if she wants to have an abortion, the man has no word in it, and she decides if she does not want a baby, the man has no word in it. Again, as usual, you're trying to avoid responsibility in order to not shoulder the consequences of your own decisions. Typical. I also understand the concept of bodily auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:59 AM
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Less than women though. The majority of stay at home parents are women. You seem to think that unpaid labor is by definition done at home by stay at home parent. Except it is not. Well, that study is very outdated, done at a time when housewives were far more common and thus were counted as a net negative. More and more women are working women nowadays though. Sorry but you are saying nonsense. It is still occurring and let's not pretend that women have not been in the work market for the past t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:42 AM
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Why not just help the poor? Why do we need to help poor white males in particular? Good question. But drawing a light on the plight of the poor whites happens only because the debate has been framed as ethnicity issue. Because up to now, it's been not about helping all the poor, it has been about helping the poor who are blacks, latino or whatever because they are blacks, latinos or whatever. This first ascribes poverty to ethnic characteristics, then pretend the issue is about ethnicity. In tha…
/r/MensRights04/04/21 04:38 AM
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They're not. Men are not responsible in pregnancy or abortion. Parenthood is an entirely separate matter I hate to let you know, but pregnancy has only two possible issues: abortion (naturally or provoked) or birth. Somehow, if a birth happens (as it is 3 out of 4 times), then the man is responsible for the consequences of the woman's decision. Your separation of birth from pregnancy is hilarious. Do you even understand basic biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:33 AM
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And they don't get payed, even though they do labor. Men do unpaid labor too. Somehow, only women's unpaid labor matters, I wonder why. This does not change the fact that over their life times, women do not financially contribute to taxes, they only draw from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:30 AM
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Equating white men with powerful white men is exactly what the issue is. Race essentialists are just tools who are there to perpetuate the wealth inequalities. Most poor in the West are white, and it's good for the robber barons to pretend it's not the case because it would suddenly shift the spotlight onto wealth rather than race. Hide wealth behind race is camouflaging the real issues. You're illustrating this perfectly.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 02:47 AM
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You obviously didn't read the article. Lumping white men in one group to hide class differences is typical of the woke apologists who only want thing but hate to admit it: money.
/r/MensRights04/04/21 02:22 AM
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No you goofball. Men are not legally involved in either abortion or the duration of a full term pregnancy, both of which take place within a women's body. Good girl. Now explain why men should be legally responsible in a process they're not involved in? Full term pregnancy and abortion are the same: the decision is 100% the decision of the woman. Thus the consequences should be 100% on them. But no of course, women don't like to be responsible for their own actions. Or only those that benefit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:33 PM
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Abortion IS indeed about bodily autonomy. Autonomy of the body by women. So deciding to terminate or complete a pregnancy is the SOLE decision of the woman. However somehow for abortion, men should not be involved, but for full term pregnancy, then somehow, despite it being a sole decision by the woman, the man has to pay the consequences of HER choice. That's the whole point. You happily ignore that with your "once the child is born" as if it just happens. Exactly like women write about their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:25 AM
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The birth ratio is 100 girls to 105 boys, not 1 to 2...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:46 AM
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Try to read something a bit more difficult than fashion magazines, it'll help for your cognitive abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:25 AM
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Abortion is about body autonomy according to women. Try to follow what's going on. You cannot at once claim that pregnancy is a matter that only concerns the woman when it comes to terminate it, but somehow it's no longer the case when it's about continuing it. The fact that you cannot see the double speech shows your hypocrisy. As for the draft, my point was to show how the equality that feminists claim to be after is again a lie since if they were truly after that, they'd have addressed the dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:23 AM
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The hypocrisy is that you want full control to terminate pregnancy but if you decide to continue then suddenly you don't have full control. Hypocritical. You either have full control and thus full responsibility, OR if it's shared with the man, then he should have a say for abortion. Basically you get to choose what's for dinner but someone else has to pay. Grow up and accept the consequences of your bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:41 AM
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Keep your legs closed if you don't want the risk to raise a kid. Oh but somehow that's not acceptable. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Your body, your problem. If you want full control to abort, then you have to have full control to have a birth. But that would require consistency and logic, so I understand it's hard for women to get this point. It's always someone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:32 AM
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Look it up? Like two organisation that are ok just for registration but in countries where there are actual drafts then somehow it never happens. Hypocritical much? Or simply posturing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:30 AM
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Look at the Swiss votation on the draft. And plenty of other countries. And when have feminists asked to be drafted in the US? You don't hear them much in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:45 AM
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Where's your research thats show that women contribute positively over their lifetime? Oh yes you have none. Yet you demand from others that they do what you don't do. Hypocritical much? Or maybe just a normal woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:43 AM
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If ejaculating in a woman ALWAYS lead to pregnancy, your argument would be valid. I have news for you though... I suspect you got abstinence only sex ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:39 AM
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Sex doesn't always lead to pregnancy. Just like driving does not always lead to accidents. It is the difference between A so B and A therefore B. Again, you're confusing a necessary condition and an outcome. Your lack of logic is patent. You know that driving is necessary to get into a car accident, yet you drive. If you don't understand the difference between so and therefore, there's not much I can do to help you reason a bit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:30 AM
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Only a woman decides to be fertilized. Of course you don't want to be responsible for your actions although men have no recourse while women do. Having sex is a choice of both men and women. Having a child is solely the choice if women who actually fought for that to be the case. Yet they don't want to bear the consequences of their decisions, like kids. You're confusing sex and pregnancy and pregnancy and birth. A necessary condition is NOT equivalent to the outcome. Sex is a necessary conditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:24 AM
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Close your legs if you don't want to support children on your own. It's funny how women are never responsible even after demanding and obtaining all the rights in reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:18 AM
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Don't drive if you don't want accidents. Don't eat if you don't want food poisoning. Your logic is beyond asininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:16 AM
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You decided on your own to have those kids. Don't go blame others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:15 AM
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If you get t-boned by a car running a red light then you're responsible according to your logic. Because you decided to drive that day and had you not, then you wouldn't have had a car accident. What a ridiculous argument. Agreeing to sex doesn't mean agreeing to a child. It's like saying that women agreeing to date agree to sex just because sex happens after dates. The lack of logical consistency is really annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:14 AM
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The US isn't the only place on earth. Women have never asked for equality in drafts. It shows how hypocritical their argument about equality is. They don't want equality, they want only the benefits but none of the responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:11 AM
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Women decide to have the child. Men legally have no right in the matter. Agreeing to sex is not agreeing to a child. You're confusing a necessary condition, sex, with an outcome. It's like saying women are responsible for being raped if they wore skimpy clothes. If men had a say in abortion you'd be right but they don't. Your reaction is typical of someone who does not want to be responsible of the consequences of their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:09 AM
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Women receive more from the government than they contribute. In effect they don't pay taxes. Only men do. https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2014/research-shows-disparity-between-tax-paid-by-women-and-men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:04 AM
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The fact is they just gloss over this fact without commenting it. This leads and has lead to countless policies that completely ignored the primary victims. Here an explanation https://www.jstor.org/stable/3594843 It's the same every time: 90% of victims being males is worth a sentence or a paragraph. When it's females... Well remember what Boko Haram did.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 11:58 PM
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Women wanted and obtained full autonomy for having children yet they still don't want the responsibility of the consequences of their decisions. If women are independent adults, why do men have to pay and support women? If women should be supported like children, then they should be treated as children. You have to choose. Autonomy and responsibility or no responsibility but no autonomy. Women want autonomy without responsibility, like teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:27 PM
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In a word, body autonomy matters when it's for women but not for men. If sex work is work then why it's ok to force men to work to support women through financial transfers but not to force women to work? It's funny how the double standard is always there when convenient. My body my choice for abortion but not for the draft. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:21 PM
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You're missing the point. OP is pointing at the double standard, not the validity thereof. Those who point at female biological urges do not dismiss males'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:18 PM
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Age difference is a good example. The older you get, the higher status you generally have. The fact that generally in couples men are older satisfies both sexes primary drive: youth for the males and status for the females. I don't why hypergamy is so contentious: it's shown throughout cultures and studies. It's like saying men prefer young and beautiful. Well yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:48 AM
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It was fixed by indissoluble marriage. When you were locked in for life, then extra caution was applied prior. Since now the carrousel is ok, then there's nothing to keep this hypergamous drive in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:43 AM
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Answer: because they can.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 08:54 AM
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You're assuming a lot of things....
/r/MensRights30/03/21 06:44 PM
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Such a transphobic comment! If Pluto identifies as a planet, we should call it a planet!
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 11:41 AM
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BeCAUse OnLY mEn CAn RaPE!
/r/MensRights30/03/21 10:09 AM
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I like synchronized swimming...
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 02:19 AM
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I doubt FIFA will accept that...
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 02:18 AM
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To mansplain then requires you to assume what the other person is assuming and condemning him for assuming things. Very consistent...
/r/MensRights30/03/21 01:10 AM
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Well, if you have a roster of FDS females, only the first 3 months are sexless then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:22 AM
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Friendship is for women just another resource extraction system. Usually free therapy, because they know they need some all the time.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 12:53 AM
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And the thing is, if feminists were a bit consistent, they'd want to convince men to be on their side since the feminists themselves claim that men have prevented women from achieving whatever, which shows that women are unable to achieve those feminist goals solely on their own, otherwise they'd have done them already. But basically they are as convincing to men as a Gillette ad. The total lack of consistency is really annoying: they at once claim to be able to do it all alone and that men prev…
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 12:47 AM
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Lol. That thread on askwomen is a hard MGTOW advertisement if I ever saw one.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 12:42 AM
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It's like during the Brejnev era of the USSR: political opponents were considered having psychiatric problems, and were thus institutionalized for their own good. Same thing here: you've posted in MGTOW, this means you must harm yourself and must be suicidal and mentally imbalanced, so please follow our care plan that will restore you to what we want you to be.
/r/MGTOW28/03/21 10:59 AM
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Having babies is the only possibly valid reason to get married. There's no other. At least she says she wants HIS babies. Too many have babies by one and have another man support them.
/r/MGTOW28/03/21 01:57 AM
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Life is risk. With such mindset we'd still be apes in the savannah... Better regret something you did than regret not having done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:51 AM
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It's not an arbitrary line. If she's unhappy about her choice of men at 26, she'll be even more at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:42 AM
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Feminism fights for equality of the good sides. But they are like: "as for the down sides, no thank you". Just like Bill Burr said: they think it's a buffet "I'll take equal pay, please. Pay for a date? No thank you." etc. If at least they were honest and STOPPED pretending that they are fighting for equality, but for maximizing female privileges, at least they'd be more respectable, because they at least wouldn't be hypocritical.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 05:40 AM
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Being against the ENFORCEMENT of one "culture" has to mean that said "culture" is evil. Not really. If you feel like diversity matters, then you can totally be against the enforcement of one culture without considering it evil. You can totally be against the enforcement of one culture (say catholicism) and be totally for and a catholic yourself, because you consider that it should be a choice. The issue here is that societal norms cannot be a personal choice. Masculinity and femininity are socie…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 05:26 AM
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Hmm. I’m not sure any of it is midwestern. Fear culture is frat culture. This video is extreme. Well you know, tailgaiting and stuff. Fear culture is frat culture? When you see how the woke behave like little crazy Savonarole, I doubt that fear culture is specific to frat culture, but of course, it is the only one singled out for it.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 05:10 AM
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being a man who has only embraced some hollow symbols of masculinity. That's exactly the point: saying that beer, lifting, partying is "hollow symbols of masculinity". It's what gets him laid with females (or males because the dude fits a gay bro to the T), but it's again men's fault anyway. That video is shit. I can write ten pages on how ridiculous the US frat vision of what a man is, but it is still as valid as a douche from the West Coast's vision. You don't see these movies because guess wh…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 02:43 AM
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As if being in the closet and a bro is what being a man is. That's laughable.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 01:47 AM
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Apparently American bros are all closeted gays. What a laughable and cliché video.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 01:45 AM
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If women had been discriminated so much in healthcare, they would not live so much longer than men.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 07:31 AM
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The South-West was a barren wasteland when the US got ownership of it You mean pristine land. It's funny how from the start the justification for seazing the land is the same. It doesn't matter, it was not yours to use anyway. You conquered it, fair enough, but then don't come around crying if now you're on the receiving end of a conquest. The hamster is strong in such discourse. But everyone knows it's quite common for Americans who think they're the only allowed to do things but if others do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:57 AM
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Hmm seems kinda pointless then There is a difference between taking from another, and getting independent from another. Not sure you noticed...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:13 PM
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Hmm but shouldn't mexico give it back to spain then? Only if the US rejoins the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:00 PM
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#LifeWithoutMenWouldBe life without electricity.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:25 AM
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Losers can’t be winners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_World_Series
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:23 AM
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Are we really going to pretend like the Mexicans didn't kill off millions of indigenous people? As if Americans didn't do so too. GTFO here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:49 AM
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No even that. The term means it benefits "fathers", not "men". We all know how women make a lot of men thing they are fathers while they're not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJfFGgzhfhY
/r/MensRights22/03/21 09:09 AM
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Mexico handed over the ownership of most of the South-West when they signed the Guadalupe Hildago Treaty. Yeah right. You lost the war, you signed the treaty and you lose the territory. Pretending it's a loss not due to war is really dishonest. The South-West was also never colonized by the US I wonder where all these English speaking white people come from then. Are you implying that I should be happy that the democrats want to destroy this country by inviting people from failed countries in LA…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:42 AM
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No they didn't, the US bought that area. Yeah no. I know that Americans usually are bad at history, but this one is your history, no need to rewrite it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Cession You are confusing with the Gadsden purchase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase Texas, for instance, only belonged to Mexico for a mere 15 years. Because Mexico was independent of Spain for that long. Prior to that, the whole area was Spanish. So no, you did not BUY California. Like the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:43 AM
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Well, on the other hand, the US took California and the whole South West from Mexico. If they claim it back, it'd be like a return to sender...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:02 AM
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I actually misremembered, it was a guy she talked to. Ms Hammurabi, episode 9. https://imgur.com/a/mTWG6xb
/r/MensRights22/03/21 05:27 AM
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Just start watching Asian series then. You still have guys kicking ass. I remember seeing a korean series where there's a woman on security duties at a court who judo a drunk guy. Then later a female judge is onto to her saying way to go girl power super duper. The security lady taekwondo champion answers that she's still shaking and that the only reason she could neutralize the guy was because he was completely drunk. She adds to the female judge that she should never trust movies about that be…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:46 AM
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Do you have any choices on people that were single by choice vs ones who aren’t compared to married people? Not sure what you mean. You cannot capture single by choice in demographic data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:15 AM
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There's plenty of literature on that topic. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566023/ Controlling for demographic and socioeconomic characteristics, the death rate for people who were unmarried was significantly higher than it was for those who were married and living with their spouses. Although the effect was significant for all categories of unmarried, it was strongest for those who had never married. The never married effect was seen for both sexes, and was significan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:37 PM
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Single women do not live longer than married ones.. https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20191010/marriage-tied-to-longer-life-span-new-data-shows
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:16 PM
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How many men have lost their right to vote for being thrown in jail? If you systematically disenfranchise men then don't complain later that indeed they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:03 PM
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Sex is not a class. Saying that the majority of men profits because a few do is as stupid as saying that most mushrooms are edible if a few are. It's a logical fallacy. But logic is patriarchal I guess... Only feminists pretend sex is a class in order to advance their own upper class self interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:59 PM
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Only 40% of rapes are reported to the police. Well, they are talking about rape®, not just rape. If you follow this line of thinking, it means 100% of the people charged with rape are indeed guilty of rape®, and also 100% of the people reported to the police for rape are indeed guilty of rape® (ie not a single false accusation has ever been made), and on top of that, you also have 1.5 times that many rapes® not reported. Basically, if you consider rape® anything like "I shouldn't have sucked thi…
/r/MensRights20/03/21 09:43 AM
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Where’s the downside to this? Having to spend the night with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:31 AM
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Because to them, a master's in civil engineering is "the same level of education" as a master's in gender studies and THUS they should earn equally...
/r/MensRights19/03/21 01:33 AM
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Yeah it's like: let's define slaves as property. Thus it's not murder to kill a slave. Feminists : let's define rape as only done by males. See? Only males rape!
/r/MensRights19/03/21 12:49 AM
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The issue isn't about them being picky. It's about them not being happy about the consequences of their own choices and blaming others for these.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:56 AM
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Let's at least say, not ashamed in any manner. Super straight!
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 02:05 AM
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Bill Burr said so https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnZvUtB4VY
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 01:56 AM
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It's like in those dictatorships where you had a dummy opponent that you could not vote for or else... They're not even aware of how transparent they've become.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 01:41 AM
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The upkeep is important, but let's not pretend we don't know who build shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:50 AM
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Their 'usefulness' had nothing to do with sex to me. That's because you're considering this from your point of view. From theirs, you're a product of their sexual activity. If you weren't, do you think they'd have treated you the same? Men are never sure if their kids are theirs, but women are. They don't usually dish out their nurturing side to random people. It's men who run into fires to save strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:56 AM
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Women are useful in the reproduction of society. But they don't build it because objectively they never construct society. That's why feminists are unable to create the change they want by themselves and need to demand that others bend to their will. It's the classic "somebody do something" that you can hear at almost every commotion and that is only uttered by women. Women drive change only by making men do the change because they cannot do it themselves. That's why TRP is dangerous for them, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:52 AM
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Noone said giving out rewards couldn't be enjoyable. Your argument rests on the assumption that giving out rewards cannot possibly be enjoyable and thus since you enjoy sex, sex cannot be giving out rewards. That's faulty logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:47 AM
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Dworkin was an incel then? By this count, the word has no meaning any longer and is used like "fascist", ie as a short hand to not have to argue and a tentative shaming. That's actually how women use the word incel or virgin. Instead of drawing vague parallel to paint an argument you don't like, maybe you should try to counter argue OP's points instead of lamenting that the Censorship bureau didn't do its job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:40 AM
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There is a 50% chance that you will get divorced. If you get divorced, there is a 70% chance that she will initiate the divorce. That means there is a total 35% chance of her leaving you. Just to point that divorce rate is calculated per year (number of divorces in year n/number of marriages of year n). However because the number of marriages varies widely throughout time, the divorce rate is not the odds of divorcing for each marriage. Let's consider a fictional example: 100 marriages in year y…
/r/MGTOW15/03/21 03:31 AM
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Or identify as a woman after 6pm, problem solved.
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 03:08 AM
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"would rather" means a personal inclination. But any man knows it's work to put a new woman in your bed. So even setting aside emotional bonding, for a lot of men it's easier to have sex with a regular partner than with a new partner. Not everyone has busloads of scandinavian models throwing themselves at you to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:34 AM
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Got one too. It seems we all like the same thing!
/r/MGTOW14/03/21 01:48 AM
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She has a line for fucking her. Which isn't what she really wants... Let her be and move on.
/r/MGTOW213/03/21 01:26 AM
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I hate that the term feminism has been associated with this negativity. You judge a group by their actions and their results. It is like you're complaining that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union has been associated with mass murders, mass imprisonment, etc while all they wanted was the good of the working class. Your line of thinking is exactly what happened to you: you refused to hold a group or a person accountable for their actions. Don't be surprised then if they pretend it never happe…
/r/MensRights12/03/21 05:20 AM
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Then you ask if the issue is "women being victims" or "men being aggressors"? Because statistically, women are NOT the main victims. They're half the population, but they are much less than half of the victims of violent crimes so they are under-represented among the victims, so why should we focus on the people less impacted? Now, if they say that the issue is about men being aggressors, then ask them why are women feeling entitled to lecture men on how men should behave while the same feminist…
/r/MensRights12/03/21 05:09 AM
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I think that is a difference with previous generations feminists. When I got my draft card in France in 98 and I was still at uni, when the question of "what you're going to do next year" came up with the local feminists, I would answer "military service, and strangely, I never hear YOU talk about that inequality". They would indeed shut up and had to admit to that inequality, which means they had to admit that each sex had their pluses and minuses. Maybe it was because it was face to face, but …
/r/MensRights12/03/21 04:36 AM
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They took the word of the father at face value.
/r/MGTOW10/03/21 11:33 AM
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I'm the first to yell AWALT, but she was just a kid. For those who do not know, basically she is a 13 years old who was miffed because her twin sister is actually doing well at school while she got expelled for attitude problems. So she concocted a story to her dad that she gave the teacher attitude because of all his islamophobic teaching. The dad went on full on retard mode and instead of doing what any adult would do (you know, confirm with the school about what had happened), he went on full…
/r/MGTOW10/03/21 03:23 AM
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Wasn't there some big hoopla recently because the Jolie-Pitt daughter had gone back to looking and dressing like a girl and that somehow it was a sign of transphobia at play?
/r/MGTOW10/03/21 01:38 AM
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Sorry but I'm not Ethiopian, I'm French. Keep fighting the good fight. If there's one place where men are considered disposable, it's Africa!
/r/MensRights10/03/21 01:30 AM
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If she remarried with a teacher of the school her kids attend, it think she has probably enjoyed special PTA meetings for a while...
/r/MGTOW209/03/21 04:08 AM
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Royalty is overrated. Good for him to try to get out. I'm not sure what he exchanged it for is worth more though...
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 12:28 AM
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Women buy most of consumer products but I highly doubt they do so for shaving products for men.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 11:20 PM
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She says it costs to the "state", but since only men are net tax provider, then it costs men. Thus men cost to men. Ok. She is not happy because she wants the women to cost more. The bitch is after more money, as usual.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 02:26 PM
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> They say to me men have never been oppressed which i don’t believe so how to respond to that kinds of question? You can say that saying that men have ruled over women because SOME men have ruled everyone is a stupid argument. It is like saying that because one female like Zewditu ruled, then all women have ruled. Feminists confuse on purpose ALL men and POWERFUL men, as if the interests of a few men were the interests of all men, including those who were slaved or died in wars. You can add tha…
/r/MensRights06/03/21 02:11 PM
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Gen Xers usually had to do everything on their own, so they're used to being left alone. But unlike nowadays, they didn't have others in their way to prevent them from doing it. Sure there was no help, but there was nobody actively in your way either. They were just left on their own. Stuff was made FOR the boomers, WITHOUT Gen Xers but AGAINST Millenials. There is no doubt that the reality of rowing against the current for Millenials created a tendency to whine, just like Gen Xers have a tenden…
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 09:59 AM
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Sexual harassment isn't asking a woman out. It's because of such dumb concepts that now everything is rape. If you cannot understand that it's not because a person can sexually harass women that everything that person does is sexual harassment, then it's nobody's fault but yours.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 06:09 AM
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PWU implies you had a chance, which gives a more realistic SMV of the woman. Because women always think super highly of themselves, this PWU is an attack on their ego and thus tantamount to rape.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 06:03 AM
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I don't think any man thinks prostitutes desire their clients... You're confusing few things here but mainly you're making a logical mistake. Saying that if a woman loves you she will have sex with you doesn't mean that if she has sex with you she loves you. You cannot inverse the causality and pretend it's the same. It's not. You're arguing against your own flawed logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:00 AM
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There's a difference though. If some men can learn HOW to get a girl, they don't delude themselves because men learn this first hand through rejection even by below average girls. Women just don't get that same experience because if they get rejected it's by Chads, not by normies. So men have to learn the know how to reach their realistic goals, but women most often have to completely rethink their goal because they're so out of touch with reality because nobody told them because we want to fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:38 AM
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Just as I said. If you're super picky at first, don't congratulate yourself for realizing this later and have the audacity to consider this as a superior characteristic over the men who correctly assessed their own attraction potential by aiming at 80% of women. Women filter out a lot at first, then if they're not an 8 themselves they have to go back to the men they first discarded. That's why they say they date men they weren't attracted to at first. But that fact entails a self justification. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 02:32 AM
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I don't consider women I'm not attracted to. Just like you don't consider men you're not attracted to. But there's a big difference: men are attracted to 80% of the women while women are attracted to 20% of men. The order you apply filters is important. There's no need to put a wide mesh filter after a small mesh one. For men then, starting with the attraction filter filters out 20 to 50 percent of the women. For women, it filters out 80 to 95 percent of the men. The result is not the same. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 02:03 AM
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American woman, stay away from me American woman, mama let me be Don't come a hangin' around my door I don't want to see your face no more I got more important things to do Than spend my time growin' old with you Now woman, I said stay away American woman, listen what I say
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:51 AM
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I don't think he expect men or women to do anything. He says the common sensical thing that you have to give yourself the means to reach your goals. Hence if you want to slay pussy, then you have to look and behave like an alpha. This is TRP 101. For women, he just reminds them that they cannot at once expect a high value men and be nothing like what high value men want their women to be. His schtick is mostly pointing at the delusion of many females that just because a female thinks it's a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:25 AM
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To be turned off means you had to be turned on first. See, you're only considering guys you were attracted to in the first place, the others are literally invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:05 AM
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Stop acting like this and you'll do better with women. As if I needed or cared. Thanks anyway young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:44 AM
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The caption of the photo is funny: "For some young men, the idea of women having rights has simply gone too far." Saying that woke simply mean "having rights" (which ones?) shows how they actually know they are in trouble and now need to make a nice straw man: "So you are against women having any rights and thus being slaves, right?" Their pitiful argumentation shows how they have forgotten how to debate since they are so used to throwing anathemas.
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 02:42 PM
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Why would they match with random people? IF profiles photos were considered restrictive, then they WOULD match with more people. Think about it. If I wanted to know if women were fat because that's my criterion, but their profile only indicated their height, then I would have to match no matter the height in order to then find out the weight. I would not arbitrarily match with a certain height to then pretend than, no really, height does not matter, only weight does. That was the argument: I mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:09 AM
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This is such a BS argument. If a picture or a profile were not enough for you to be attracted, you would match with MORE men by matching with them despite their profile to get in touch with them in order to find out more. You admit that you do the exact opposite: you restrict the number of matches THEN you hamster this by saying that women do this because photos aren't enough to decide so they're not really basing that on the profile photos! Hamster at full speed here!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:57 AM
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If so then she should be totally ok for her man to meet his sexual needs elsewhere. The issue is not whether women in LTR are willing or not willing to engage in sex. The issue is why when they are not willing, they also are against men to get it from elsewhere. It's like saying, I don't want to cook for you, but you cannot go eat to a restaurant. Sorry but no. You have to be responsible with the consequences of your choices. THAT is the issue with dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:09 AM
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I agree, and it would surprise you to hear this but he doesn't always take advantage of this. Half of the "Chad"s I know are in LTRs with pretty girls. Because it gets old. Pussy isn't special. Some guys don't take too long to realise that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:45 AM
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The level being the sexual level. Attracted means aroused in that case. Hence once she's been bedded, she's nexted. It's lust, nothing more. And a Chad, because he's one, doesn't have to do much to be able to satisfy any lust he may have. So he just satisfies it whenever he wants. And if this afternoon it means a 4 blowing him in the parking lot, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:32 AM
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Ruling over a population can be done for or against it. I think that for the US, the way the elites decided to keep exploiting the population at maximum level was by: telling everyone can be a millionaire so don't be mean to them because you might become one of them. telling the majority of the poor, who are white, that they should be glad about their situation because at least they aren't black. making sure that blacks, who are disproportionately poor stay that way in order to make sure that th…
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 03:10 AM
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It can be none. Morning wood is a totally involuntary response. So if you're in a bedroom willing to fuck, the physiological response will kick in. That's how guys do get raped: the boner is like sneezing, you don't will it. It's not something you control. You just need to trigger it and the trigger can be super easy. That's my point: women don't need to do much to arouse a man, just show your tits. However women CAN kill a boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:43 AM
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Arousal is an involuntary response. Fucking requires a lot of work for men. Hence since men have to do the work, they'd rather work to fuck a higher SMV woman. When you need two necessary conditions for an outcome, the more difficult one is the one you focus on. To fuck with someone, you need to be attracted/aroused and you need to actually work to seduce. For men, the barrier of entry is certainly not being aroused. Women instinctively know that, that's why they react so badly if a guy don't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:31 AM
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I get a morning boner on my own without anyone around. A girl who would kill a boner has to be real ugly if she's already willing. Or she's got to have a real issue. Women have to be turned on to have sex. Men just don't have to be turned off. That's why men, even Chads have no issue with fucking 80% of women. Even if means flipping her to not see her face or concentrating on her breasts to forget the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:20 AM
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I have a feeling that if a dude was slaying in women's tennis then somehow Reddit wouldn't have this position...
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 01:52 AM
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The passive aggressive tone of that message is always funny: You did something bad and we're not telling you what but don't be stupid and obey more. Also don't talk to me. That reeks of an entitled middle aged woman.
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 12:49 AM
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Could I have some evidence sources of these statements please? Here is a good start https://avoiceformen.com/featured/research-finds-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax/ https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2014/research-shows-disparity-between-tax-paid-by-women-and-men The original paper is this one: From the abstract: " Women, on average, are found to have a systematically and persistently lower net fiscal liability than men, most pronounced at older ages when greater female longevity exercises a strong i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:51 AM
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A logical person would ask for proof, which you're unwilling to give. You just proved the claim is false. You are confusing the validity of an argument (ie the logic is sound) and the veracity of an argument (the propositions are true). A proof is never about the validity of an argument, LOGIC is. So please understand that proof does not invalidate or validate an argument. It just proves a proposition therein. Selective hearing. Typical female. And I bet you won't find proof that selective heari…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:43 PM
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When men say they prefer women who "look natural," this is the kind of thing they're talking about That's "natural" only for the US where girls lather make up like paint coats. Even in neighboring Canada, that's "natural" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDPJa-HA6l0
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:10 AM
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Selective hearing. Typical female. You're proving my point even more. You know that logic doesn't work like that? An argument is proven by logical reasoning, not by just saying so. I know it might be hard but that's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:48 AM
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You think the men I referenced are lower class men? Oh my apologies, it seems you're not even American or even from the West. It seems we're dealing with culture clashes. The West is often a concept used by Americans to generalize their own culture to more than the US despite not knowing anything outside of their own country. For info, I'm from Europe. You don't seem to know where this is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:47 AM
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Equating lower class men with predators hungry for power. Oh no, rich Bottom feeders do the same too. Google Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, R.kelly, Kevin Spacey, and Bill Cosby. Hypergamy in action: lower class men are by nature predators. You're quite the specimen!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:41 AM
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So you can't even prove your point, but I proved my point with ease? "Please remember that an outlier does not invalidate a trend. Thank you. " Selective hearing. Typical female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:40 AM
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Elliot Rodgers lied to himself alot, actually. Sure. And you know him by name. Too many females to count and remember though. Please remember that an outlier does not invalidate a trend. Thank you. Again, the same could be said about incels and MGTOW. They whine all day about women chasing Chads, but never want to realize they're chasing Stacies. MGTOW chasing women? That's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:19 AM
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Especially not for men at the bottom because there was always a desperate woman needing to survive. That's why alot of these same bottom feeders will prey upon children and mail ordered brides: Power. Equating lower class men with predators hungry for power. Typically female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:05 AM
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Lol stop hamstering. I don't think you understand what that term means. Men feel possessive towards their partners. Yes it may be to ensure paternity and? As if you're willing to give a thousand USD a month to charity for 20 years. No? Well now you understand why men want to ensure they're the father. They know women lie about paternity whenever it suits them. Point is feelings aren’t random and irrational. If a you see a tiger and feel afraid is that irrational? NO. Feelings and instincts are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 04:47 AM
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It means "They want a female that “belongs to them”." If you're going to play the semantics game, you'll have to define what you mean by "belong to them".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 04:24 AM
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Men lie about themselves, women lie to themselves. The difference is self-awareness. And that's what is annoying to men. The pot calling the kettle black is hypocritical but when the pot is really convinced that she's not even black, that's fucking annoying. Men say fake it til you make it. Women fake it and think they're it. You can argue that there's dishonesty on both sides, but the delusion is really strong in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:15 PM
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Sex is necessary but not sufficient. It's because women don't seem to understand the difference between these two concepts that they're confused by what sex means to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:51 PM
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We all know that they do. The thing lots of women don't like here is to be reminded of their materialism and shallowness. 6 figures, 6 ft., 6 in are their criteria but they don't want to own up to these. Men want cute, fit and cooperative. Notice that for men, 2 out of 3 criteria are innate. For women, only one. And thanks to make up, not completely. If you're wear makeup, you do lie on your résumé.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:47 PM
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Enforced relationship is to ensure paternity, not for feelings. It even exists in polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:38 PM
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I'm skeptical as well. Don't all guys get feels at some point? Sure but how long? Five minutes or five decades? For the latter, she'd better be worth it. It's not that it's impossible though, but most women just no longer want to be loved by a man for 5 decades. They don't want to make the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:29 PM
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They do. They pay with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:24 PM
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Men are possessive to ensure their paternity. Not because they're more in love....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:19 PM
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Homogamy doesn't mean a woman provides as much. It only means she's from the same socio-economic class. Hypergamy was not a problem but for whom? Certainly not for the men at the bottom...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:18 PM
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I never said that, I was just highlighting how her career impacts our relationship. You have some topics of conversation with her. Fine. You'll find something else to talk about then. If the only thing you can talk about is your job... I would be very concerned because she loves the medical field and knowing her would hate being a secretary. Whatever. Pick another field. Florist if she likes flowers. The point which you of course did not answer is that, no of course not, you would not dump her. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 05:15 PM
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I don't understand why you wouldn't be interested in how your partner is spending that. Once you're married with two kids, you'll see how little time or energy you have to deal with your spouse's job's anecdotes. You'll have more pressing things to do. ​ It would definitely reduce a lot of our great conversation had she been a marketer or something radically different. I guess this means you'll break up if anyone changes their job then, or upon retirement if you marry. The very fact that you spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 04:53 PM
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Here is an interesting start: https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2017/04/capitalism-enemy-family-donald-devine.html EDIT: you can also look at Christopher Lasch's work.
/r/MensRights27/02/21 02:32 PM
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Can you please explain more how feminism is about ensuring everyone is a consumer ? I don't see that part (but I'm not extremely knowledgeable about feminism or MRA). Ok. This is the short version. It's based on the fact that capitalism has diminishing returns. This means that profits tends to fall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall) and thus there is a NEED to find new markets to have new profits. The family is an economical structure that by definition does n…
/r/MensRights27/02/21 02:24 PM
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Because feminism is about destroying the family unit and ensuring everyone is a consumer while MRA is not. Feminism isn't supported by the powers that be because of its stated goals, bit for its actual effect of pushing consumerism towards the most likely consumerists: women. Once you understand that and that you realize that MRA won't sell anything extra, then you understand the discrepancy in institutional support.
/r/MensRights27/02/21 11:14 AM
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You act like everyone hates working but not everyone does. Most people would rather not go to work. SOME people enjoy their job for sure. The higher class you go, the more do. No wonder it was upper class women who wanted to join the job market. It's all about becoming attorneys, CEO, etc. Not about becoming janitor or trash collector. I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:33 AM
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My mom probably made around 30,000 when I was born so that would be lower 20% then, 2500k a month. We're talking about dollars today. 30K in 1995 means 45K in 2020. Definitely not poor. That's more than the median income of men today. As suspected, if one parent can stay home, it's definitely not a poor household.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:29 AM
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I chose a broke but fit smart and ambitious guy who had the discipline to get him where he wanted and would do so again over an unfit successful guy at the same level he’s at now Good for you. A data point is not a trend. Please understand that. The question is not a poor fit man with potential vs. a poor fat man without potential. The option is the poor fit man vs. the rich unfit one. Many women will chose the second option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:23 AM
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