libertas Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
24	Confidence, anxiety, and becoming a badass		libertas	/r/seduction	13/11/11 05:44 AM

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2	Possibly getting confusing mixed signals, how to proceed? She is definitely way interested. Of course she told you that you're just friends. You haven't seduced her yet. Set up a time to hang out, make her sit next to you, and put your hand around her waist for a few moments. Touch her arm/hand. Etc. Flirt with her and try to set up some sexual tension. Also, tease her and be a challenge. Make it clear that at this point she doesn't have you. You are screening her as much as she is screening you.	/r/seduction	29/08/13 01:46 AM
1	Guys in your 30's on here? - a few things that I have been failing with I agree that busting the frame of 'needing to get the girl' is important. I like your mindset and agree with it. I just maintain that doing so in a way that jettisons his chances is probably unnecessary. He could have potentially gotten her out on another date and said what you're recommending saying then, and probably learned a lot more.	/r/seduction	27/08/13 09:53 PM
2	Guys in your 30's on here? - a few things that I have been failing with That's why I hate the dating frame. It makes everything too formal and puts pressure on the situation. And it makes her think she has you. When I go out with a girl, I'm not going on a date, I'm hanging out with them. I use this terminology with them, and shut down any attempt on their part to get into a dating frame. After she's had sex with you, maybe you'll take her on a date and pay for her shit then. Maybe. Up to that point, she's still working to get into your good graces and give you a re…	/r/seduction	27/08/13 09:49 PM
2	Guys in your 30's on here? - a few things that I have been failing with Actually that's a great example. When she does something that annoys you (or you even just pretend it annoys you), you playfully smack her on the ass. Who cares if it's on a date. If she gets a little offended - which is a possibility - you just laugh and encourage her to see the funny side of the situation. She'll get over it, and you'll have successfully transmitted the message that you don't give a fuck. If she makes a big deal out of it, either she's not very cool, or you didn't pull it off …	/r/seduction	27/08/13 09:34 PM
1	Guys in your 30's on here? - a few things that I have been failing with Sorry but this was in fact a terrible move. First, the textbook move when a woman is not responding to you is not to keep texting her, it's to take a step back. Now that you've sent that text, with all of its needy undertones, she probably feels suffocated. What you should have done is wait three days to see if she eventually decides to respond. Girls do this. If she doesn't, you take a step back and act as if you never suggested a date, and go back to sending her amusing flirty texts to build a…	/r/seduction	27/08/13 09:16 PM
3	Guys in your 30's on here? - a few things that I have been failing with It sounds like you're being try-hard. When it comes to quality girls all of a sudden you go from being relaxed and outcome independent to caring way too much. You just have to take a step back and realize that even with these girls you have feelings for it's still just a game. You have to be willing and able to walk away from these girls without giving a fuck, the same as with any others. In fact it's even more important with them. Here's an idea for you. Next time you find yourself in one of th…	/r/seduction	27/08/13 09:00 PM
1	If you could give 5 tips to anyway about seduction and inner game what would be the 5 highest ones on the list I like that and agree with it. I do think this is an issue that is real for many people. People who are confident are able to talk about their failures, flaws, deeper emotions, etc. in a way that it is not such a big deal; they have some degree of detachment, and since they have a sense of self-worth their ability to talk about these issues is backed by the sense that these things do not define them. Less confident people are more likely to have a sense of humiliation or shame surrounding their …	/r/seduction	13/05/13 06:31 PM
5	Sex isn't the goal. Attraction is the goal, and sex is the reward. This could be useful for learning but is not a good end goal. You don't want to be thinking about how to attract, you want to be attractive; attracting girls is something that best manifests itself from being a fun, teasing kind of guy, not something you machinate. Might seem like splitting hairs, but your transformation isn't complete until it happens at an identity level.	/r/seduction	25/02/13 07:34 AM
16	What are some good excuses to get a girl back to your place? Play cards. Watch TV or a movie. Eat ice cream. Play Mario Cart. It really doesn't matter, as long as you make it sound fun. A related point. You don't even have to do what you said you would do, as long as you keep the fun times going. So just say whatever seems good at the time. Another idea: bring up an idea something fun to do, see if she's into it, then you can return to it later. I.e. have a conversation about ice cream, you have a debate about rocky road vs mint chocolate chip, then later…	/r/seduction	23/02/13 11:06 AM
2	I am leaving you, Seddit... You can, but it's easy to get sucked into a passive absorption mode when reading a lot of theory. Sometimes it's necessary to just put theory aside for a while and focus exclusively on practice, to get into 100% action mode. Especially if you have a certain personality type.	/r/seduction	22/02/13 06:31 AM
4	Story about last night and how terrible I am at seduction There is such a thing as pushing too hard. Ever heard of a day2? Some girls never sleep with a guy the same night they meet him, even if they really really like him. Perhaps especially so. You should have played it more coy, got her number earlier in the interaction, and established a mutual understanding that you will see each other again. Then, you'd be in an excellent position next Tuesday or whenever.	/r/seduction	13/02/13 07:43 PM
1	I've been familiar with the community for 5 years and I'm still a 22 year old virgin. It's starting to mess with my head. [ADVICE APPRECIATED] Yeah, you're coming off as completely desperate. I have a different take on what you should do about this. Go out and hit on girls, completely without any intention of getting laid. Your only object is to be a complete tease. Escalate sexually as you normally would - kino, eye contact, getting in their space, teasing/bantering with them, touching their hands, ramping up the sexual tension, etc. But it's not about getting laid, it's about having fun. Whether or not you have sex with them is irrel…	/r/seduction	13/12/12 07:40 AM
3	How do i even start to be charming? and everyone seems to like him, including the girls And you give a shit about this why? This is another example of caring too much about what people think. You need to cut off these thought processes as soon as they happen. Very approval-seeking. i really don't see how saying that to him would convey anything other than me getting my feelings hurt and trying to get back at him, which would make me look bad. If you're thinking about this as a way to get back at him, you're completely missing the …	/r/seduction	13/12/12 07:09 AM
3	How do i even start to be charming? I'm kind of a loner and i think they view me as distant, weird, and aloof. Even if it's true, this is not something you should ever think about. Who cares what they think. Speculating about whether people think bad things about you is needy, don't do it. Focus on being in the moment, not on yourself or other's thoughts. This guy is fucking with you. You should know this before he even says anything. You bought right into his frame. Never do that. Next time you interact with someone who's fucking…	/r/seduction	13/12/12 06:31 AM
26	Billy's Guide to Kissing the Girl Also see Chopan's post on the subject: I had a buddy ask me the other day how I go about kissing women. I have a lot of methods, but the one that I do THE MOST, is incredibly simple yet.... so forgotten! As she is talking to me, and I have kino'ed a fair amount, I simply stand right in front of her, in her space, 3" off of her face, and stare at her eyes while I smile. As she talks, I say "mmm-hmmm" and I just look RIGHT AT HER. They always start bumbling and tend to forget what they are saying,…	/r/seduction	13/12/12 06:03 AM
14	Billy's Guide to Kissing the Girl Good info. In my opinion 'would you like to kiss me' is bad. It will work if she's into it, but it leaves open the possibility of an unnecessarily awkward moment. Although even if she says no, it's still not game over, because you can play off anything if you're calibrated enough. Just don't have a bad reaction, dial back a bit, and start talking about something else. 60 is right - escalation is attractive. Unashamedly expressing sexual interest is a turn on if you've done your job right up to t…	/r/seduction	13/12/12 06:02 AM
27	C-Blocked by 40 yr old dude on the train. Kind of hilarious Should've just rolled with it. In my opinion you blew yourself out. It was only an awkward moment because you let it become an awkward moment. But that's why you have to be ready for anything. So he's like "You guys should bump phones! and exchange numbers". "Well, I'm not doing this because our friend here (friendly touch the guy on the shoulder) suggested it, but that is actually a good idea. What's your number?" Look her in the eye, slight confident smile, without flinching, put the pressure …	/r/seduction	11/12/12 12:13 AM
6	Do you still sometimes feel that a particular girl is clearly "out of your league"? I used to. For me it took a singular experience. I got to the point where I was comfortable hitting on women below a certain level of attractiveness - namely, the ones I thought were at about the same level of physical attractiveness I was. Then, I had this experience where I put everything on the line and went after what for me was a 10, with everything I had. (Insert your own personal '10' here.) It was unbelievably scary, but I escalated and managed not to fuck up too much (an unshakeable fac…	/r/seduction	23/11/12 09:21 PM
3	The DJ that can't get laid... Some girls are a lot harder to game then others. When you have no skills, doesn't it make sense to start with some that are within your reach? Even if you don't end up in a relationship, just going out with a girl where you're a little more of a hot commodity does wonders for your confidence. It gives you room to fuck up and learn from your mistakes without getting blown out and having to start all over again. It also ups your scope of what's possible. Then next time, you go for a hotter or more…	/r/seduction	04/11/12 08:14 PM
5	How do I not care about getting laid enough to keep cool and calm with a girl, yet care about it enough to actually try and get better at my game? Well, you have to want it. Otherwise you won't be motivated to do anything, as you said. But instead of making it the end-all, be-all, take the attitude that it's just cake. It's nice but it's not essential, it just doesn't matter that much. You have a life without women. It's a hobby, a game. Try attracting women without planning to actually close them. Establish a rapport, without the overriding need to have sex with them. It sounds like you might be outcome-dependent, maybe this will help you…	/r/seduction	04/11/12 07:11 PM
0	The DJ that can't get laid... I'm just going to make a suggestion here. As someone without much experience as far as sex and seduction, you shouldn't be going for hard-to-handle party girls. Find a nice, normal girl who isn't hideous, stay with her for a while, and get your skills together. Meet her outside of a party. Party girls tend to be: drunk; out of control; high-maintenance. You need someone low maintenance and simple right now. When you get some skills you cango back to the party girls if that's what attracts you.	/r/seduction	04/11/12 06:48 PM
30	So I opened a girl on the train today... and didn't follow up. I feel terrible. Exactly. You have to take the expectations off yourself, man. You have to convince yourself at a deep level that it doesn't matter what happens when you talk to a random girl. Because it doesn't. It's just one girl. I have a mission for you. Go out there are say the first thing that comes to mind, even if it's completely retarded, to the first random girl you see. Repeat five times. Expect to fail and be prepared not to care. Yeah, you'll still be nervous, but when your brain gets the message th…	/r/seduction	08/08/12 10:12 PM
1	Smalltalk, Transitional Talk, and otherwise Conversational Filler One thing I would mention is that it can be helpful to prime yourself with topics. Write a list of 20 topics you can go to if you run into a lull in the conversation. But what you want is for the generation of these topics to be something you do without thinking. And yes, you are overthinking things. As a former ultra-introvert, the problem is not that you can't think of things to say, it's that you don't want to say them out loud. You say your mind is blank, but that is a self-created problem, …	/r/seduction	09/07/12 05:59 PM
5	How a girl wants to be picked up at a club I agree. I would like to modify it just a bit though. To get good, you have to be willing to cross the line. However, you should also be trying to get a feel for where the line is so you cross it (and fuck up your game) as infrequently as possible. To wit, sometimes grinding on a girl is the right move, sometimes it's not. But only field experience and well-honed judgment can tell you which.	/r/seduction	07/07/12 04:21 AM
17	The Alpha Bitch Ok, so what would I have said after that first line? "I am the trash guy..." silence "Hey, what do you have against trash men? When I was a kid I always thought riding around on the back of a truck looked awesome." Unperturbed smile Playful challenge. Gives her something to work with. OP actually had the right idea. But instead of being the man, he got shook. She sensed it, and it was straight into negativetown from there.	/r/seduction	05/04/12 06:18 AM
30	The Alpha Bitch I wasn't there, so it's hard to know what really happened. But it seems to me OP's mindset twisted the situation completely against himself. What I saw happen was a girl walk up to a guy, open him (great sign), and he responds with a fairly weak line. "I am the trash guy..." It just isn't that great of a line. It's stock, and it doesn't really show any creativity or express any personality unique to the OP. So she wasn't impressed, and her response was not to reply. She didn't insult him. She ju…	/r/seduction	05/04/12 06:07 AM
6	KINO for those with Hyperhidrosis? And now, for the only comment so far that actually addresses the question at hand: Yes, I think you can totally pull it off. Here's what you do: Use eye contact and personal space. Get close to her, then move away. Have the mindset that you're not using your hands as a tease. It is definitely possible to turn a girl on without touching her. After you get her number, take her to the swimming pool. Use all of your best moves without fear. At some point, she's going to find out that you have sweaty…	/r/seduction	08/12/11 05:29 AM
0	TofuTofu here to answer your questions... If you're having intense regrets, you're taking things way too seriously. None of this matters. It's a game. Do you have intense regrets when Bowser kills you in Super Mario 3?	/r/seduction	27/10/11 10:58 PM
31	How do I get a "crew" of friends when I don't have one? This is something I've been thinking about. My best answers: Make friends with a social connector, and make friends with the people he hangs out with, essentially integrating yourself into his existing group of friends. You be the social connector, get the name and number of every cool person you meet, and invite them to cool events that you put on (even if that's just going out to the bar). Create your own social group.	/r/seduction	09/09/11 01:56 PM
2	How is this at all sustainable? I'm a bit late so probably not many will see this, but here's an article on relationship insecurity I thought was relevant and actually really good: http://www.uncommonhelp.me/articles/overcoming-insecurity-in-relationships/ ** Also, I wanted to share one little insight I had on this topic. If you are falling into this trap of sabotaging your relationships through neediness/insecurity, your likely first response after becoming aware of the problem is to compensate for your needy behaviors by att…	/r/seduction	06/08/11 09:28 AM
7	AMA With Neil Strauss A valid question, but the title of this post should have been 'What happened to the AMA with Neil Strauss?' Kind of misleading, dude.	/r/seduction	29/07/11 05:34 AM
1	Why neediness is bad, why it exists, and how to fix it A couple more bonus thoughts: if SHE brings up the relationship, unprompted, then you can let HER talk about how much she misses you. That doesn't mean you need to! Even though it's not a good idea to say this out loud, YOU don't care what happens one way or the other. If something happens you will enjoy it to the max, if not who cares. If you can't find this mindset somehow you are most likely going to FUCK IT UP! Haha. Good luck man.	/r/seduction	27/07/11 06:53 PM
1	Why neediness is bad, why it exists, and how to fix it Nope. Lame, lame, lame. You don't explicitly talk about the status of the relationship. Period! It can only hurt you and makes you look needy and pathetic, even if it doesn't seem like it during the conversation. Alpinedivers advice is good because its just making conversation. Just be attractive, make sure she always has a blast hanging out with you, and game her as if you had never fucked her before. Comfort, escalation, etc.	/r/seduction	27/07/11 06:36 PM
1	Not sure what went wrong, seddit. Date flake. Ok, A.) I don't think she flaked on you. She didn't actually commit to going out with you, and the excuse sounded pretty legit. It's rude to invite over some guy you barely know when your friend just got in to catch up with you. B.). You should have gone out with her and her friends. It would have been an opportunity to show her how much of a badass you are by getting her friends even more attracted to you than she is. That shit is money, she'll be throwing herself at you if you do it right. C.)…	/r/seduction	27/07/11 06:30 PM
1	[FR] Spontaneous Blacklight Party (First FR) Warning: Long Hey, I enjoyed your FR. One thing - you need to explain the HOLY KINO guy! I'm actually curious.	/r/seduction	27/07/11 06:19 PM
1	Why neediness is bad, why it exists, and how to fix it Fucking hard, isn't it. But that's where you have to be strong and let the insecurity pass, because that's exactly what it is. Needing to know what another person thinks about you is the very definition of insecurity. That's where you have to be the pillar of individuality and strength that will natually draw her in. Trying to find out what she's thinking is weak and is a sure method of scaring her away.	/r/seduction	27/07/11 05:52 PM
2	How shooting pool helped me get women. Great tips. I'm OK at pool, so I'm hardly an expert, but this video I found was the most useful thing I've come across for beginners. It's bang on regarding getting the angles down, which is kind of the core skill when you're starting out. Plus it's kind of a tour de force on other stuff too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbmNcYH52eo	/r/seduction	11/07/11 08:58 PM
3	How shooting pool helped me get women. Which is why it's always a good idea to undersell yourself. A lesson from the business world - under-promise and over-deliver. That way you always end up looking good.	/r/seduction	11/07/11 06:13 PM
8	I am Emotionally Retarded Here's a surprise: the crucial skill is not reading facial expressions or body language. The crucial skill is modeling, understanding, empathizing others' thought processes. From now on in your daily life, in every social situation you're in or observe, afterwards think about what the other person said to you or the person they were talking to. Make it an obsession. Why did they say what they said; what are their motivations, what did they want out of the interaction? Why did they react the way …	/r/seduction	19/05/11 06:23 AM
7	The result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success: You. Including those with birth defects and genetic diseases.	/r/seduction	02/05/11 06:10 PM
9	How do I run Game in a 2000 person community without getting a bad rep? Instead of gaming girls at parties, be the guy who knows everyone. Talk to everyone, be cool, make people laugh. Hang out with lots of different people. Once you hit a critical mass of popularity, you will be pre-qualified everywhere you go and you can invite girls you meet to day2s and run your game in a private setting. Discretion is the word though.	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:44 AM
2	[FR] Great end to what I thought was going to be a shitty night. You already have more game than almost everyone on this site. Keep it up.	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:40 AM
2	Simple tip, for when the girl lives alone and you drop her by the end of the night. Only if you've built sky-high value.	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:36 AM
1	Damage control Explain around? It's not clear what you mean, but if you mean justifying whatever it was you did that you fucked up, no. You never do that. It makes you look pathetic. Only a person who makes a lot of mistakes would spend time explaining them. Ignore them, do something attractive, and they will be forgotten.	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:28 AM
2	AFC living at home during college. Where do I meet girls? Student union. Coffee shops. Grocery stores. Talk to a female individual everywhere you go.	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:23 AM
1	[FR] 3rd date, noob at seduction...need to know what I did wrong I would wait a couple of weeks and text her again. My guess is that she might have got a bit of a player vibe from you, and since she wanted a relationship that might have killed it for her. I.e., she wanted to spend more time getting to know you. She told you that she had to be in a relationship with you to have sex; you agreed, and then started trying to have sex with her. You might as well have stood up and announced: 'Hello. I am a player." Also, this was kind of an implicit agreement to be …	/r/seduction	01/05/11 11:16 AM
3	[FR] First date in quite a while, met on OKCupid. Total bust, D-, Would Not Date Again. Ok. Time to break out the mistakes list. She tells you that she doesn't want to walk a long ways in high heels. This is a legitimate objection. High heels can be painful to walk in. You react defensively, as if she wanted to shoot you down. This displays insecurity. Always interpret things in a way that helps the seduction. It doesn't matter that you told her it was a walking date, she probably didn't understand what you meant. So, that was a mistake, but not a fatal one. You suggest that you go…	/r/seduction	01/05/11 10:38 AM
1	Hitting the wall for someone who still lives with the parents. You make a very good point. I should have said game as I prefer to play it. Placing limits is never a good thing. Not having a good seduction location definitely makes it more of a challenge though. I guess personally I would rather have a way to get laid on a regular basis, in one way or another. That was the lens my comment was shining through.	/r/seduction	29/04/11 03:06 PM
1	[FR] Effortlessly attracting females! Gaming HB8 bartender one night, making out with HB6 in front of her the next. To me, making out with the HB6 in front of her was a big mistake. Making out with a chick hotter than she is = making her jealous (can be a good thing, although some girls would be offended). Making out with a girl quite a bit less hot = lowering your value (very bad thing). A high value man does not settle for a 6, because he has the ability to attract quality women, both in looks and personality. It probably killed any attraction she had been feeling.	/r/seduction	29/04/11 10:52 AM
1	Hitting the wall for someone who still lives with the parents. Yeah. I'd say living with your parents is pretty much incompatible with the game (unless you have your own space and they don't cockblock you). If you have to continue with the situation, three things: 1. Immediately screen all girls for having their own place. If they don't, it doesn't really matter how cool they are, because you will never be able to hook up with them. 2. Consider just getting a girlfriend, in which case you can make official introductions and probably pull off bringing her ov…	/r/seduction	29/04/11 10:06 AM
3	Can we get a day game thread going? Ok, very interesting. Let me make that last question a little more specific. So it sounds like you just choose one target per venue. Let's say that you fall flat with her, but there are a couple of other interesting women you noticed when you scoped the place out. I'm just trying to figure out how you would move to another seat without looking like you just got rejected, or like you're trawling the place. Is this something you have addressed, or is it one target per venue only? This isn't really…	/r/seduction	13/04/11 07:33 PM
1	[FR] Unexpected SNL Me: "I want to know how to frame tonight and our conversations, are you and your boyfriend strictly monogamous?" Her: "Yes we are, but I've had problems with cheating in the past". Any answer to that question other than a definite "There's no way anything's going to happen" means "Please try to have sex with me." She might as well have said "I'm open for business, and everything's on sale." LOL. That was a rather brilliant stroke going for broke and throwing it out there though. Kudos.	/r/seduction	13/04/11 04:34 AM
4	Can we get a day game thread going? Random question: at the coffee shops and eateries, are you buying something at every place? I'm not sure I'd be able to afford that. If not, I'd be curious to hear how you pull it off without the management giving you death stares. (At bookstores, libraries and clothing shops, looking around is a more acceptable activity.) Also: Do you tend to set yourself up at a table and branch out from there, or do you just start walking around? If you open a set at a table and it doesn't hit, are you able t…	/r/seduction	13/04/11 04:15 AM
1	Gentlemen; whatever you do, DON'T do this. Filing this under 'obvious'	/r/seduction	09/04/11 05:57 AM
1	[FR] going from lame to even lamer. Anytime	/r/seduction	09/04/11 05:48 AM
1	I got myself into a weird spot First of all, don't do this again. As soon as you realize you're not interested, cut it off. This is what's known as 'leading on'. Going on dates with someone you're not attracted to is not very good practice anyway; if your heart's not in it, you're not challenging yourself and you won't be able to play your best game.	/r/seduction	09/04/11 05:40 AM
19	[FR] going from lame to even lamer. You're escalating too fast. You asked her out without even chatting her up for a minute to see if she was cool, and before you did anything to demonstrate that you are a person worth getting to know. In some situations you have no choice, but I don't think that was the case here. Let me explain what she was thinking at each point in the interaction: 1. Ok, this guy is asking if I'm done, he probably wants to use the computer. 2. He wants me to get a drink with him, I don't even know who this is?…	/r/seduction	09/04/11 05:22 AM
1	How to become known at every bar and club in town I think it depends on how it's done. If you establish a rapport with the waitress, and are respectful and appreciative of her service in general, then you can get away with teasing like this. It doesn't have to come off as jokester-asshole. Don't tell me you haven't enjoyed being teased by certain guys.	/r/seduction	14/03/11 10:56 AM
1	On conversation You can't say 'don't be boring'. It seems dismissive, and isn't playful at all. Grinning is not going to fix that. You have to say it in a non-serious way, so that it is completely not a big deal, and breaks her serious frame. Say it with too much importance attached (i.e., taking it too seriously), then of course it will backfire.	/r/seduction	14/03/11 10:29 AM
1	Opening a perfect 10 model[FR] Just because you can own her shit tests doesn't change the fact the they're still a pain in the ass. What do you do that reduces shit tests? Are you saying that you just embarrass her so hard when she pulls shit that she stops doing it? Let's hear some details, man.	/r/seduction	13/03/11 04:54 AM
4	[FR] The Girl At the Bar - Getting Her to Qualify Me: What makes you think that? HB7: You'll see why by my dance moves on the floor Me: Dance floor is right over there, let's go That was your mistake right there. You were doing good up till then. She wasn't really serious, it was a flirty response without much investment. Calling it out like that kind of killed the mood by raising the stakes too soon, which showed her you weren't on the same page, and essentially saying 'playtime is over'. You should have said something like "Oh really." (slow …	/r/seduction	06/03/11 11:30 AM
3	From Dating to Girlfriend: How to Make That Special Girl your Girlfriend Just because it isn't routines doesn't mean it's not game (I try to avoid routines for the most part anyway). Game is keeping her interested. Teasing her. Taking her to interesting emotional places. Staying outcome independent, confident as all hell and not approval seeking. That never stops (at least if you want the relationship to last). Edit: The reason I'm pressing this point is that the mindset of 'I have won her, the game is over now.' is a ticket straight to disaster for the kinds of guys…	/r/seduction	24/02/11 11:18 PM
5	If you're wondering, "Does this stuff really work..." or you're too scared to try. It has to be calibrated, of course. You are placing limits on what is possible, kidB. Instead of thinking about how to do it in a way that makes you look like a scumbag (of course you will fail), why don't you suspend your disbelief and think about how to do it in a way that makes you look like a badass and sweeps the woman off her feet. Because it is possible.	/r/seduction	24/02/11 11:12 PM
2	From Dating to Girlfriend: How to Make That Special Girl your Girlfriend The game changes, but it's still there. I'm wary of telling guys to stop gaming, because there is a very strong natural tendency to fall back into AFC behaviors once you feel like you have the girl. In reality, you have to strike a balance.	/r/seduction	24/02/11 11:02 PM
1	[FR] Unsurmountable shit test & value of social proof, even weeks later How about: 'Eh, you probably just suck at English.' It rejects her frame and could get her to qualify to you ('what? I do too speak good English!' - tease from there). Breaking out the nuclear-caliber negs would probably be a good idea too.	/r/seduction	24/02/11 09:41 PM
2	About to punch a baby seal in the face. Pretty sure I just landed in the friend zone. Yeah. If you get emotionally invested in a girl before anything sexual has happened, you're pretty much done for. The OP said: "if anything I felt that I was probably more interested". To him he probably felt like he was only a little bit more interested. But I would bet the girl felt it with the force of a blaring foghorn. The proper response when she brought up the guy would have been "Yeah I know what you mean. Maybe you should ask him to come listen to your record collection, if you know wha…	/r/seduction	24/02/11 09:57 AM
2	[FR] Unsurmountable shit test & value of social proof, even weeks later That would also have the advantage of continuing the conversation. It's easier to turn bitchy conversation into good conversation than silence.	/r/seduction	24/02/11 09:57 AM
9	From Dating to Girlfriend: How to Make That Special Girl your Girlfriend Attraction game does not equal game as a whole. Most PUAs, including Mystery and Roissy, understand this very well. (See Roissy on vulnerability game and Mystery's comfort stage.) The commonly accepted model (in one form or another) is: Open Attract/Qualify Comfort/Rapport Close Once the girl is legitimately attracted, you need to step down your attraction game. Continuing to attempt to attract a girl after she's already attracted is known as 'overgaming', and results in, at best, impatience, an…	/r/seduction	24/02/11 09:03 AM
2	An interview with someone who was on VH1's "The Pickup Artist" Good god was that article a waste of time.	/r/seduction	10/02/11 08:12 AM
2	Spinning Discs and Valentines Day. How do I keep them spinning? I would not have any meetups, and in general ignore it. If anyone brings it up (i.e. 'why didn't you take me out?'), I would tell them I don't subscribe to V-Day, as it is a commercialized and forced holiday. I will express my affections when and how I choose.	/r/seduction	08/02/11 07:41 AM
1	Help! Don't know how to progress from text/fb game You've got to expand your boundaries on the possible. It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal. If you are confident about it, it will only make you look good. Call her up and joke around/talk with her. The second or third time you call, suggest you do something together. You could even take her along next time you go grocery shopping, it doesn't really matter as long as you've done a good job convincing her you'll be fun to hang out with. Don't forget to escalate.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 11:33 PM
1	[FR] My first one. My adventures of the night! You should have invited her back to your place. After all you are only a few blocks away and there was someone in her bed. From there make sure she sits next to you on the couch, escalate while you hang out with your cockblock friend. Then tell her you want to show her your stuffed rabbit collection and drag her into your bedroom.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 02:23 PM
5	[FR] She walked away after the first sentence or two "Is this your first time here? I've never been here before" Lol, oh man. Possibly the most cliched line in existence, you shouldn't be surprised she walked away. But props for making an approach. Assignment: come up with and write down a list of topics you can use that will inspire a conversation and you can do a little monologue on. Open with one of those next time.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 09:22 AM
1	Help! Don't know how to progress from text/fb game This limits our only time to talk to: -weekends -after lunch, when everyone is in the hall Wrong. You can hang out with her without your friends. If you can't get her to hang out with you, she's probably not attracted. You can't attract girls over phone/FB if you didn't establish some level of attraction face-to-face. In fact, you don't seem to be aware of whether you have attraction or not, which is a bad sign. Solution: approach 1500 other women and improve your skills.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 09:11 AM
24	How do you handle getting interrupted? Do not return to cut threads. When the conversation moves on, you move on. It says bad things about you if your story is so important to you that you insist on returning to it. If people thought it was interesting they will ask you to continue.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 09:01 AM
2	AFC losing the HB8 because he no longer gives a shit. You're toast. Your value is so low with this girl that you can never recover it, unless you have serious game, which you don't. Tofu is correct. You need to develop an attitude of abundance - right now you are coming from a place of crippling insecurity.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 08:57 AM
2	Seddit Challenge-- You have half an hour to teach an AFC wing as much as possible. What do you say? Yep, this needs to be on the sidebar.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 08:49 AM
2	pretty sure i need a psych eval... any takers? I used to be like you. Ultimately I decided that I was taking everything too seriously. Yeah, it would be cool if the girl could operate at my level, but unfortunately most can't. Rather than throwing the rest of humanity on the scrapheap (which is a tempting choice at times), I instead decided that I would enjoy every person for what they have to offer, however much or little that may be. When it comes to women, it comes down to two questions for me: 1. Will she be fun in bed? and 2. Will she b…	/r/seduction	23/01/11 08:43 AM
12	Seddit, as a community. One thing I've found amusing about seddit is how stingy people are with the upvotes. I can't think of any other community with 15,000 people with a front page of mostly <10 karma posts. It's like upvoting is considered needy and non-alpha, haha. Then again, the quality of the content is sometimes borderline, so maybe there is a good reason for this.	/r/seduction	23/01/11 01:35 AM
6	Seddit Experiment: Rate my POF game No offense man, but it's not much of a seddit experiment if no one and your carefully vetted reviewer can see what's going on.	/r/seduction	17/01/11 05:15 AM
13	How do you respond to "Do you like me?" I like you the same way I like McDonald's fries. "What does that mean?" Then refuse to tell her.	/r/seduction	17/01/11 03:38 AM
1	Tips on girls who play hard to get Usually good advice, but you can't caveman if she won't come over..	/r/seduction	14/01/11 12:38 AM
2	Drunk girl currently asleep in my bed. WTF. If the thought of sleeping with the OP is so horrible, I doubt he ever had much of a chance. She will know that he slept there, even if she doesn't say anything. Since it's your bed which she slept in without permission she will know that you are perfectly within your rights to sleep there. Getting kicked out of your own bed is weak, do not sleep on the couch. It says 'I am a timid, non-sexual creature.' Do not play the 'I was a gentleman' card. The message received will be 'I am not sexually in…	/r/seduction	07/01/11 06:42 AM
6	Famous PUA Guru Gunwitch shoots a woman in the face Ok. Just because he was a dick who allegedly (this is America, innocent before proven guilty) shot someone in the face, has nothing to do with whether he knows what he's talking about when it comes to seduction. Which he does. His is one of the best no-keyboard-jockey methods for beginners that I have ever read. Judge the material on its own merits, not by the man: http://www.gunwitch.com/seduction/gwm1.html.	/r/seduction	06/01/11 08:11 AM
1	It bears repeating. It's not about what you say. Have to disagree with you there - you can simulate what you don't understand, just not very well. But attempting to simulate what you don't understand will cause you to ask the necessary questions and understand it faster. Like the OP alluded to: your brain should be a sponge for everything you read about female behavior. You should be continuously working on refining your model of the female brain (emotions included) and expanding your social-emotional repertoire. Real life approaches will be a…	/r/seduction	04/01/11 08:41 PM
2	How much of this stuff do you think works on guys? You need to own your sexuality. Actually, I can't think of anything that would be more effective at attracting men. Can you introduce a sexual vibe into a conversation? Can you do a 'fuck me' look with your eyes? If not I would make that your top priority. Google Gunwitch method.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 07:56 PM
12	How much of this stuff do you think works on guys? Word. Also, confidence. If you want to attract a quality guy, you have to be completely confident and secure. Which, if you're actually approaching and initiating conversations, probably isn't going to be a problem.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 02:35 PM
23	How much of this stuff do you think works on guys? Yep, this early game stuff will absolutely help you. As long as you're attractive enough, that is. Edit: I don't mean to be cruel. But it is an important factor with guys.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 01:54 PM
1	It bears repeating. It's not about what you say. Ok, here's where we get to the crux of the issue. In fact, I don't even care to engage girls. I just need to learn whatever I need to do to get them to sleep with me....I know and accept that these hoops will not interest me, nor will come naturally to me, now or ever. This is my cross to bear. Unless you get to a place where these 'hoops' do interest you, you will never have much success. Until you make the frames that make the routines you use effective a part of your internal process, your la…	/r/seduction	04/01/11 01:41 PM
2	FR: To her bed twice What did you do exactly, let's get specific.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 07:09 AM
2	FR: To her bed twice It's good that you had an emotional connection. But what did you do to let her know that you were sexually interested? Sexual push/pull is crucial, did you do anything like that to build tension? (Example: with a sexual vibe, get close to her face like you are going to kiss her. Then pull away.)	/r/seduction	04/01/11 06:55 AM
8	FR: To her bed twice You were in her bed TWICE and did not make a sexual move!! She has probably assumed you are not interested. First time you could have started smelling her hair. Second time you could have said 'let me give you a massage, I bet you a million dollars you will feel better'. Straddle her and sensually massage her back. Escalate from there. You have to be a sexual animal. Escalate relentlessly or you will not get laid, end of story.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 06:23 AM
1	An amazing tip from a fellow redditor. You should just start the conversation regardless. It doesn't matter whether she yawns or not. If you don't hit it off you still got some practice. Heads you win, tails you win. That point aside it might make a good opener. You: "Hey, I just made you yawn." Her: "What?!" Instantly engaged.	/r/seduction	04/01/11 06:09 AM
2	[FR] This game is motherfucking trip man A couple of suggestions. I suggest a reframe. At this stage in your development, I wouldn't even worry about getting numbers or taking girls home. First you need to get to the point where you can get into a conversation with a stranger and have so much fun they have no choice but to like you. It sounds like at this point you're not having much fun. Maybe right now your next step is to try 'working the room'. Here's how it works: The instant you enter the bar, walk up to the first group you see, …	/r/seduction	03/01/11 03:48 AM
3	It bears repeating. It's not about what you say. Of course it's hard work. This is why it should be your main focus until it's no longer hard work, until you can both hold a conversation and know (more like feel) where a girl is at at all times, and direct the conversation accordingly. You will not see much success until you learn to do this. And yes, anyone can do this. Guys who are dumb as a box of rocks can frequently do it better than smart guys. It's a feeling thing, not a thinking thing. It sounds like you've closed off from learning thi…	/r/seduction	03/01/11 03:12 AM
1	If another guy at a bar approaches me and asks me BS like "what are your hobbies" I am going to throw my drink on him. Sidekick? By this do you mean a slightly lower value friend who is nonetheless cool enough to hang out with? Why have I not tried this.	/r/seduction	02/01/11 11:03 AM
2	Opening by acknowledging one's anxiety: bad move? If you are going to get rid of your anxiety, you have to learn not to fear it. Acknowledging it to a stranger is one way to face it. Feel it out instead of running away from it. Experience it. And know that it is not you, it is just a feeling. In the course of your life, this one interaction is completely non-important. Self-recrimination is the worst thing you can do. Faking it till you make it is good too, as long as it does't involve self-deception, escapism, or numbing out.	/r/seduction	21/12/10 10:05 AM
5	A fresh, interesting perpective on flaking I got yesterday I like this perspective. I think you're right that a lot of guys pull the 'next' trigger too soon. At the same time, I think it's important to keep efficiency in mind. Her flaking may be for genuine reasons, but if you tried and failed to meet up with her for the nth time, eventually you have to start thinking about moving on. Personally, after the second flake I would execute some kind of takeaway (let her know that she needs to get over whatever her issue is if she wants to have continuing con…	/r/seduction	05/10/10 04:58 PM
1	Hey seddit! Any objections to a lesbian hanging around to learn some tricks? I feel like that is one level of game, but the next level is getting her to want it even more than you do.	/r/seduction	11/09/10 04:48 AM
3	[FR] first formal FR Did you isolate any of the girls? Did you attempt to get any numbers/set something up for later? Having a good time at a bar is great, but if you don't go for it at some point it's not going to be anything more than that.	/r/seduction	06/09/10 09:07 PM
5	Question: what do you do when she disqualifies herself? It's difficult to assess exactly what's going on without more information, but one possibility is that you are not attracting them. There is no point in qualifying if they are not sexually attracted to you.	/r/seduction	27/08/10 02:17 AM
1	Infographic I made. Statistics on how wearing red clothing can increase attraction and value... I'm just not convinced that a blood red colored shirt is going to make women more attracted. What I'm saying is the effect of your demeanor (confidence) and skills is such an overwhelming factor that any effect of the color, if it even exists, is rendered irrelevant by comparison. The whole idea reminds me of pheremones. Theoretically there is supposed to be some validity but in practice it's not much use.	/r/seduction	27/08/10 02:15 AM
1	Alpha/PUA celebrities and characters Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman.	/r/seduction	26/08/10 11:28 PM
1	Infographic I made. Statistics on how wearing red clothing can increase attraction and value... I think this is ridiculous and would have zero impact in the field. Any subconscious attraction supposedly caused by the color red would be instantly rendered irrelevant the moment words come out of your mouth. I find it somewhat hilarious people are taking this seriously.	/r/seduction	25/08/10 06:13 PM
1	What happened here, and how do I get it again without being a douche? Simple. She was drunk and horny, you showed strong leadership in a tense moment. Make a habit of moving girls around and demonstrating a strong lead.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 10:48 AM
1	Is there are other way than kino? (Not saying it's bad or anything) You've got it all wrong man. It's not about accessing her subconscious mind, it's about establishing yourself as a sexual presence. If you aren't comfortable with that then you won't get far.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 10:32 AM
1	Transitioning / staying in set You need to get them to want you to stay. This is known as the hook point. The best way to do this is to get them emotionally involved. Talk with them instead of at them. Keep trying to get that connection going until it happens. Have confidence it's going to happen. At some point you will know that you are IN. For training purposes, try persisting until they kick you out of the set. Good question btw, I hope more people respond to it.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 10:10 AM
2	[FR] Fast Seduction on OKC. 36 hours from outbound message for f-close. Also insight on female powers of seduction. That last reply was terrible. You: Talked about death. (Negative emotion) Apologized multiple times for something that needed no apology. (Supplicating) Suggested you ruined the conversation. (Awkward) But you did do a good job of is evoking feelings of romance, and demonstrated that you were not going to have a problem escalating. However, my diagnosis would be that the only reason this worked is that you didn't fuck anything up and she was maybe a little desperate. Fool's mate.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 09:43 AM
1	Seddit: Cool or lame? If you had done a good job of demonstrating sexual interest on the date, then it would have been cool. But since you didn't it was probably lame.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 09:28 AM
1	I've never had a one-night stand. I would like to land one sometime! Help me out all you lady-killers! I have only a few words. Creepy is inauthentic. If you are afraid of gunwitch method it is because you are not comfortable with your sexuality. Be unashamed of your desires as a man. You need to be able to look into her eyes thinking 'I want to fuck you' and have that be the most normal thing in the world.	/r/seduction	20/08/10 09:06 AM
1	Things I've learnt, No-one told me You start to realize you're only interested in figuring out their particular combination, then moving on. This is what I'm afraid of.	/r/seduction	18/08/10 03:10 AM
2	Things I've learnt, No-one told me Damn straight	/r/seduction	18/08/10 01:49 AM
1	Intermediate PUA in London for the next week. Anyone for a sarge? Crumpets optional.	/r/seduction	16/08/10 09:15 PM
1	[FR] First real try... almost got the "f-close" but then it got heavy. So who brought up the idea of talking in the car, him or the girl?	/r/seduction	16/08/10 09:01 PM
1	MiniFR - Long term project You should have put it back on her, let it play out. Look her in the eyes. Move a little bit closer. "I'm not sure you could afford it." You could have kissed her right then. Or, move in close, sexual tension, and BOOM, walk away. Even better.	/r/seduction	16/08/10 11:08 AM
12	[FR] First real try... almost got the "f-close" but then it got heavy. 'They' didn't ask you for a moment alone. One of them did, so which was it? If it was your friend, he fucked you over, whether he meant to or not. You should have instantly stepped in and suggested they talk inside. If it was her, she was having second thoughts and this was an excuse to talk herself out of it. From the way you wrote it sounds like like you may have gotten a little over-eager, I don't know. Don't ever act like it's going to happen for sure, even if it is. You can't let her think …	/r/seduction	16/08/10 10:58 AM
14	[FR] Mission 9: Trouble at the Dive Bar I'll try to keep this FR short Epic fail, man.	/r/seduction	14/08/10 10:39 AM
5	The Full Stop I'm sure this would work if you pull it off right. But if you establish attraction early, it's unnecessary, and it's really kind of high-risk if you wait this long to make a move. In my mind you would only do this as a fall-back if for some reason you failed to generate attraction early, as you should have.	/r/seduction	14/08/10 09:51 AM
31	I'm flying out to meet a girl who I've met once and emailed a handful of times - First Post! Ohhhh man. I hate to say this but this is a recipe for disaster. Spending hundreds of dollars to go see a girl you barely know sends all the wrong signals and puts you in a tryhard position by default. I would never do this unless I was rich as fuck and wanted to visit the city anyway. I get the feeling that you are about the step into a situation where you are 100% pussy-whipped before you even begin. I hope I'm wrong here, but for god's sake man, don't let this happen. So if you have the money…	/r/seduction	14/08/10 09:39 AM
2	Don't know how to "fractionate"? Watch this video; it contains many of the elements used in fractionation. Hey, there's no link to the video. Sounds interesting, so if you get a chance I would like to see it..	/r/seduction	03/07/10 04:08 AM
1	Flirtatious Waitress She was interested in you. What you should have done was talk to her for a minute or two, set up a date right there, and get her number. She won't call you, because the onus is on the man to move things forward. You might be able to salvage the situation. Go back there and ask her out.	/r/seduction	13/06/10 05:02 AM
11	Field Report: High Value Targets HB8: Only if you buy us a drink first (she didn't say this like she was joking) Mistake #1: Taking a dumb comment seriously. You should have completely ignored it and did your opener. If something doesn't help you advance the seduction, ignore it. If she's persistent, then you make fun of it. You responded logically, buying right into her negative frame. ** HB8 seemed very confident when she first asked for the drink, but she seems less sure of herself now. I start to move backwards like I'm goi…	/r/seduction	12/06/10 10:04 AM
1	How to Pick Up a PUA This is not good advice. This is how to pick up a non-PUA. A man with choice in women will screen relentlessly. What you need to do is figure out what he screens for. Hotness, obviously. But there's always more than one hot girl at the party. What kind of girls do you think he goes for? Be that girl (if that is congruent with your identity, that is). GreatBarrierReefer in his comment below is closer. You have to be a challenge. Don't be more interested than he is. Keep him in doubt until the ver…	/r/seduction	27/04/10 08:31 PM
1	Places to game? Church festivals?	/r/seduction	06/02/10 08:04 AM