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Pleasantly surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:29 PM
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I'm content with my life. Who gives a fuck about some internet famous rich dude? Good for him, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:22 PM
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Lol same
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:03 PM
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Do nothing. Because why do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 01:20 AM
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Well I guess I was thinking of it more in terms of the goal being to not have a problematic marriage in the first place and having a wife who wants to be with you and isn't just staying married because of fear of divorce/being single. But the quiz is more statistic based and in terms of statistics that could make sense as an explanation. I was also thinking single mother as in, father is not in the picture at all, born out of wedlock children type thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 12:01 AM
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I guess...yeah. But my (future) marriage is important to me and that's what matters. Everyone else's I could care less about. I suppose in terms of statistics it might make sense that people who support the institution of marriage as a thing that we should all be doing are more likely to be traditional and/or religious and less likely to get divorced. It seems like a stretch, but oh well. I've still got good odds. According to an internet quiz.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 11:57 PM
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I love that thing, it amuses me more than it should. Although I'm still not sure how me thinking other women can have children out of wedlock brings my percentage up when you already asked and I don't have children and it's not like I can become a single mother in the course of marriage...idgi. It messes with my score.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 12:21 PM
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Ah, ok. Yeah, I don't really see it being advocated for; maybe once on RoK but even TRP generally doesn't take that seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 12:03 PM
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Who is marrying teenage women? I would guess teenage boys, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 01:21 AM
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No one's forcing him to break up with his girlfriend, he's being punished for assault. If he had punched a teammate in the face and knocked him unconscious and the media got a hold of the footage, he would have been punished regardless of whether charges were pressed or not. It's unprofessional and scandalous and makes the team brand look bad. Players know not to do shit like that, and they know the consequences if they do and it gets out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 01:16 AM
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Again, on what proof? None. You won't get any further proof one way or another. There is not yet a method for reading people's inner desires. Way to empathize there. No, I don't empathize with people who sit and complain instead of working to fix things. Sorry. Or don't fall for the bullshit, don't compromise, and only accept what you truly want. That's what I said. Spotlight: assuming assumptions If these men are too cowardly to talk about it in front of other women, I really doubt their confro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 12:23 AM
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Any actual basis on this or is it just something you believe? I would say the fact that most people actively seek it out is some pretty solid evidence. of course out of the earshot of teh wimmins And here is why these miserable little whiners are and always will be miserable little whiners. This is the problem in their relationship, not the fact that they're in a relationship. What is complaining to anyone and everyone about how much you dislike your wife going to do for your marriage? Nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 01:19 AM
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I'm generally pretty forthright with my SO at this point, but it took years to get there. Why did I do the hints thing? Because it feels awkward to say what I want, sometimes. Or because I don't want to say that I'm having a bad time and be the one to ruin the evening, but I do want to go I just want it to be him having us leave, if that makes sense? And then in some cases, I just want you to know me well enough. This only applies to things that I've already discussed though, so like if I've tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 03:26 PM
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I don't think there's a point, I think life is pretty meaningless, but I guess I'm along for the ride. I never understood fear of death. What are you afraid of? Nothingness? You won't exist to be upset about it, what is there to be worried about? I also really don't get people who care about what happens to their body after they die. It's a dead body and you don't exist to know what all happened to it, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 12:56 AM
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You really shouldn't. I was a kissless virgin until 18, 19 isn't really that old in the grand scheme of things. You have plenty of time to sort things out for yourself and gain confidence. Also, try Long Island Ice Tea, it tastes less alcoholic and gets you hammered quick. Or liqueurs, like peach schnapps or something. Literally tastes like candy, no bite to it. And few people in our generation really know how to dance, you just have to move around a little and you'll be alright. It's one thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 11:47 PM
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I was watching TV and drinking gin and tonics with my SO when I got a text from my friend that her boyfriend was making steak fries and I have been dying to try his steak fries for forever. So we popped over to their house and the fries were fantastic. What went wrong with your night?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:52 PM
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In the future, we will temp ban or ban users that advocate suicide. Why does this have to wait until the future? Telling someone on the verge of suicide, in detail, how they should kill themselves is I think without question ban-worthy. I don't think warning is necessary tbqh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:47 PM
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'no sex before the big game' mode Why on Earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/14 01:57 AM
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Sex please. Blue Pill leaning woman. I already get all the conversation and emotional support from him as I need on a daily basis, it's the sex I could use more of. I just asked him, and he wanted clarification: if the second option means that we can just hang out and chat and watch Chuck all day, he'll take that one. But if it's just talking about his feelings and shit, he'll take the sex. He likes to pretend he doesn't have feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/14 01:51 AM
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Technically, you can much more easily put your dick in a college degree than kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/14 01:44 AM
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Yeah, I think it's definitely rape. They were slipped a drug specifically to get them to have sex or a relationship with someone they previously rejected. It alters their state of mind to the point that they really have no control over their actions in most fantasy worlds' version of a love potion, and they can't consent if they're not in their right mind. It's like saying a severely mentally ill patient wasn't raped because they technically said yes when someone asked if they wanted sex, even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/14 01:32 AM
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/u/fiat_lux_ , /u/hyperrreal, and /u/sirnemesis. They all seem level headed and respectful and generally make points that I might not agree with but can at least see the thinking behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:48 AM
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If I had the time I'd nominate myself, but I doubt I will, so /u/weirdlemonade81.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 11:00 PM
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Any half decent counselor wouldn't even begin to try and make guesses about what happened in someone's life based on a couple sentences written on the internet. In all likelihood, they're a normal enough person. They've probably been used to dealing with a certain kind of women or have been fed a certain perspective on women for quite a while, or a mixture of both. It's left them dejected and perhaps a bit angry. Tbqh, even though I wouldn't put it in terms of a dog trainer, I sometimes get fed …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 10:42 PM
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Is it a shocking new discovery that physical attraction is universally desired? No, it's not. People are shallow and care about looks, that's been a well-known fact for quite a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:54 PM
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At the same time, American men have a relatively positive reputation for being chivalrous, nice, loyal, etc. compared to most men What? Americans in general are known for being loud, obnoxious, oblivious to others' culture, demanding, and eating too much food. Who do you know who considers Americans chivalrous? The explanation being American tourists have a tendency to be assanine. Did you hear about that kid who went to China and wrote phrases praising democracy and demonizing communism in litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:45 PM
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routine biweekly Wait...biweekly? So you think the average woman masturbates less than twice a week? Edit: Maybe my sample size masturbates way more than most people? Because /u/GridreXX did say once a week...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:36 PM
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She looked at me pitifully and said "Honey... you're not lubricated enough." The realization that sex hurts when your not aroused and wet was a revelation to me. I went to Catholic school and never had sexuality properly explained, I believed until 21 that losing your virginity was supposed to be painful and sex might hurt for months after. Then I went on the internet, rethought my experiences, and realized that it was shoving shit up a vagina that was not interested that actually hurt. Go figur…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:29 PM
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My sample size consists of two people because I don't go around asking for people's masturbation habits. But ime, no, it's roughly the same. This is why porn is so male dominated. Visual porn is male dominated. Erotica is not. It's also why a lot of women have trouble reaching orgasm during sex, particularly casual sex. Pretty sure it's because the female orgasm is more complicated than the male orgasm. Enough friction on the penis and most men come. That doesn't quite work for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:07 PM
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I thought white men disproportionately committed rejection murders, although I have no statistics or anything to back it up so I could be completely wrong. I don't know. In any case, the idea of white men being entitled comes from white men historically feeling entitled to whatever land or people they felt like having. May not be entirely applicable to today's society, but that's where it came from. How can you determine what standards are lower? And yes, I do want to abolish gender roles for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:26 AM
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My mall is in one of the most affluent towns in the US(I believe it's in the top 5), which abutts a lot of not-so-affluent areas. So amongst the young people, there are the traditionally attractive preppy looking kids dating the urban youths to rile their parent's up or for the attraction that someone very different from yourself has when you're young. And amongst the old rich folk, trophy spouses are not infrequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:18 AM
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I don't find them to be good reasons, or particularly true, but I was also explaining the position not claiming it as my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 03:43 PM
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Ok, fair enough, but go to a shopping mall and tell me how many objecitive 8s you see with objective 4s. Well considering there is no objective measure of attractiveness, I'm going to go ahead and assume you mean conventional. And at my mall? A fair amount of attractive people are walking hand in hand with less attractive people. But then, there are so many factors that go into attraction that you can't gather from a passing glance at the mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:53 AM
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why white? seriously? lol Wait...is this a genuine question? that men who turn down women because they aren't physically attracted are jerks, even if those men are way better-looking than the women they turn down. Ime, it's generally the hypocrisy of the system that's judged(i.e. why are women expected to shave everything to be attractive and men are not, why are women expected to abstain from sex to get with the men who are pushing for ONS', etc.) while individual preferences, especially from p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:44 AM
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i'd say far less male celebrities would be dumb enough to put themselves in that position If that's the case, the male politicians more than make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 06:42 PM
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Not all that often. I don't really get out much, but the people I interact with are generally either polite or only mildly rude. I don't think we live in less civil times, but people are less likely to engage with strangers. Which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:50 PM
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Yeah, sure, of course, no other jobs are good. Anyway, he just graduated in May, he has an excellent starting job with a far above average starting pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 03:05 PM
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Lol. I remember in 8th grade I had a crush on this dude and then I saw him slam the class nerd against the locker(about as intense as bullying got at my school) and instantly my crush vanished, little 13 yo me was horrified. But then I was a nerd girl, so pretty much scum of the Earth. My SO was an openly nerdy dude all his life, spent his free time learning Linux and playing MMO's. But he was popular in middle/high school, in great shape, and super good looking. He pretty much won the genetic l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 03:21 AM
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Hmm, yeah I guess that would exclude quite a few forms of sex. But I always just assume PiV or anal when people ask for partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 12:46 AM
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See I was just thinking that today, how carousel is a weird metaphor because you don't just get off mid-ride and hop on a new carousel horse. People who do that are typically kicked off the ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 12:34 AM
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I'm 6'2" I always kind of pictured you as an Amazonian princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:45 PM
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Lol, we're the same age and weight and if you count oral, same partner count as well. High five!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:44 PM
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I assumed riding meant literally riding on their cock. So penetrative. Hand jobs involve no riding, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:41 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:39 PM
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1, 23, 125. I'm not sure why unique is bold. Are they not all unique?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:39 PM
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I've always had emotional problems. There it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 02:46 PM
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Why not start a thread about that then? I don't see why we can't be concerned about both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 02:07 PM
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John Oliver! I was nervous watching this episode because I don't know how I feel about the Wage Gap's existence(like does it exist and to what extent) and I knew he was going to toe the party line and disappoint me slightly. But I do think he makes a good point that any Wage Gap is too much, and accounting for differences of career, experience, etc., there is about a 2-4 cent gap as far as I can discern from my admittedly limited research on the subject. And the resume study is compelling. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 12:23 AM
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EQ 53, SQ 45. I expected to have a higher EQ but I guess that would require me to care about other people rather than just read their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 10:02 PM
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Who has time for that? Were they majoring in sexual exploits? I lived right next to a notorious party school up until a month ago and the students there weren't that extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 03:07 AM
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I have no idea. I think it's only a civil crime too? The law isn't great all around on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 11:10 PM
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It's illegal the other way around to. Reproductive abuse is a subset of domestic abuse and is illegal, at least in my state. Difficult to prove, but illegal nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 10:16 PM
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It's also generally not physical disgust in the sense that your vagina/penis is ruined by the sex you had. Because if you're safe and hygienic, genitals just don't get ruined from sex. It's more the idea of them having a ton of casual sex, which is why someone who has sex 1,000 times with a long term partner doesn't bother me, but a guy who has sex 50 times with 20 different women would. The physical act of sex isn't really the problem, and I think that's the case for most people who are turned …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 05:56 PM
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Can confirm, do find it pretty darn gross. I would do the all caps disgusting thing, but that seems a bit extreme. I'm not personally offended I'm just moving right along from that dude. But I also don't know anyone who's had an average of 10 partners a year. I just don't think many people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 05:52 PM
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I couldn't stop, it was fascinating lol. And it stood in stark contrast to another user who insisted my SO couldn't be attractive and I must be making it up that girls flirt with him because he's overweight. Opposite ends of the spectrum, both on the fringes of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:31 AM
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Haha, I remember that. FWIW, it amused me to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 12:23 AM
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Whenever I get angry, I tell my friends about it and they tell me to get off reddit. So I just stop responding. I've never gotten in an argument where the ideas expressed were infuriating, it's mostly when someone is so hypocritical/obtuse that I want to slam my head on the keyboard. And yeah, that's when I step away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 12:22 AM
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I started school in '94? Graduated high school in 2009 and college in 2013. I was a loser pretty much all my life and didn't have many friends, let alone boyfriends. I had a crush on this kid in 2nd grade and when I told my friends to tell him, he told them to tell me he hated me. I worked up the courage to ask this guy I liked to dance with me in middle school and he laughed, grabbed his friend, and said he was gay and then danced with someone else. I remember lying to my siblings and pretendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 12:00 AM
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That's intact families choosing together, which is a different thing. They're still poor. It's not really different. There is no baby in the first place because men and women now make arrangements first. You wanting it to happen doesn't make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 06:02 PM
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Tell me why. Why would anything change? I can't imagine a change because you aren't providing a reason for it other than "because I think it will be radically different and people will start behaving the way I want". Financial abortion != utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:55 PM
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Ah, are you a feminist, you keep strawmanning me. Ah, are you a redditor? You keep ad hominining. Which is apparently a word, according to spell check, til. No I said its far less common, than in cultures where its deemed the norm. Which would be relevant if we lived in a culture that deemed it the norm to commit reproductive abuse. I've pointed out several times it is illegal and most people consider it immoral, but you've seemed to gloss over that. So what is saying it's immoral going to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:52 PM
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Then there are cultures where its far less common and looked down upon, middle class culture, for example Do you genuinely think theft is uncommon in middle class culture? Shoplifting is practically a rite of passage but it's not like we're not all taught not to do it in after school specials. Not in this case it because there is no child during the abortion period Ok, and when she doesn't abort the child there is a child. I don't think you have a good understanding of it, there's no reason for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 02:23 PM
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Financial abortion would arrest reproductive abuse but wouldn't stop it entirely so there isn't any point? I was talking about the education aspect and how teaching people not to commit crimes doesn't really deter people. They're already crimes, we all know we're not supposed to do them. So teaching people not to commit domestic abuse, when we already know not to, is probably not going to do anything to deter people. agreeing up front was morally and legally correct It is. It is illegal to get p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 12:37 AM
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How do you know teaching not to murder doesn't arrest the murder rate? I'm absolutely certain that it does, but it sure doesn't stop it. Take away that reward If the reward is financial, the reward stays, that baby won't starve. If the reward is getting a guy to stay in their life to raise the baby, that's not going to go away, because that's already the man's choice. If they're guilted into it, no amount of legal ways out will change that. If women are taught that it morally incorrect to do it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 12:16 AM
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We can teach women that they are not to commit reproductive abuse Sure. But it's not going to work any better than teaching people not to murder or sell drugs. The people who do it are still probably going to do it. It happens at a rate of about 10.4% women who commit reproductive abuse and 8.6% men who commit reproductive abuse according to the CDC, nowhere near 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 10:33 PM
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Being a single mother doesn't mean you got pregnant without the father's consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 04:09 PM
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From the mom's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 05:51 AM
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I mean, the most accurate comparison would be a man messing with a woman's birth control or poking holes in condoms to get her pregnant without her consent. A guy who rapes a woman and gets her pregnant is equivalent to a woman who rapes a guy and gets pregnant. Rape brings additional trauma that consensual sex that leads to non-consensual pregnancy doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:49 PM
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If the child is not being provided for, call social services. Well that's his point. Social services will be called, the baby will be provided for, and the mother won't have to lay in her bed so to speak because no one's going to let the child starve. Why would it make a difference if it's child support from the father or the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:37 PM
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If the child is not being provided for, call social services. Well that's his point. Social services will be called, the baby will be provided for, and the mother won't have to lay in her bed so to speak because no one's going to let the child starve. Why would it make a difference if it's child support from the father or the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:37 PM
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are taught about consent to fatherhood, and women know they cannot just decide to have a child and use violence to make a man go along with it. Because teaching consent has clearly rid the world of rape? Teaching people not to do something doesn't mean people won't actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:34 PM
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Eh, I guess it depends on the church. My mom's side of the family is Catholic and she and her sister both got divorced and remarried. Several members of our church were divorced and no one cared. You can't get remarried in the Church unless you get your first marriage annulled, but even that's not particularly difficult, my parents did it. Divorcee's certainly weren't pariahs in any Christian community I've been around. Which isn't to say that the community doesn't push for counseling and trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:01 PM
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What...? I'm not even entirely sure what you're saying, let alone how it relates to my comment. I don't have a problem with male sluts, their sex life isn't my business, I'm just not about to date them because I have a visceral reaction to my romantic partner having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 02:44 AM
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Not at all born out by my experience. In my social circle, it's about equal. I know several men who don't care about sexual history and I for one am repulsed by the idea of a relationship with a man with a high partner count. I don't know if repulsed is the right word to describe my friends' feelings on the matter, but many of them are disinterested in high partner count men. I have no idea whether my experience is more common than your proposal, and neither do you. The survey doesn't cover the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 10:30 PM
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Ah, ok. All those behaviors sound like things that wouldn't personally bother me too much, but I can see how it would be difficult to accommodate it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 02:05 AM
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Out of curiosity, what's difficult about your sister? I've never thought of anxiety disorders as particularly difficult to deal with, but perhaps I've never been exposed to severe enough cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 01:46 AM
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When in a non-aroused state, everyone said no. In the aroused state though the number of yes answers was much higher I wonder, though, if they would actually do it or if they just find the idea more appealing when aroused. Because my chance of saying I will stab someone is going to be higher when I am infuriated, but in a real situation I couldn't bring myself to actually do it(which I know from experience, not hypothetical posturing), so perhaps something similar is happening there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 10:27 PM
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Yeah, I have definitely noticed the extent to which arousal changes my preferences and it's pretty dramatic. Stuff that I could sit here now and tell you sounds repulsive suddenly appeals to me. People get that dirty shameful feeling after masturbating because outside of heat of the moment, their fantasy seems totally gross. Another thing that complicates things is that people change. So even if someone can account for a state of arousal and confidently say that their moral compass is strong eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 08:53 PM
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I highly recommend it, but I have had people(I think entirely women) tell me I shouldn't judge someone based on their sexual past. On the flip side, men have told me I don't actually want a low partner count partner because male promiscuity is attractive. Only on the internet though, in real life no one gives a fuck who I chose to date or how much sex they had before me, except my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:14 AM
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Huh, I always heard that if you and your spouse lived together before marriage you were more likely to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:04 AM
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personality That's pretty vague though, everyone has a personality of some sort. If you extrapolated on what personality you need in a partner, you'd be looking at a longer list.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 05:44 AM
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Isn't Argov's bitch still the opposite of what a RPer is looking for in a mate? I honestly didn't read much more than the summary, but it sounds like she's advising the opposite of be feminine, endearing, and defer to your man. I mean, it kind of sounds like RP advice, only given to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 05:33 AM
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To a certain extent, it is unavoidable like any other crime, but I rather like the idea of shooting your partner a text the next day saying you had a good time. If they text back they did to, you have some evidence of consent. And avoid sexual situations with women you don't know or who appear unstable. Recording your partner saying "yes, I'd like to have sex with you" makes you look paranoid and ultimately doesn't do much, because consent can be withdrawn at any time during the encounter and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 10:29 PM
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Run that by me again? Do you understand what solipsism even means?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 10:12 PM
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Sure, sure. I don't date high partner count dudes, to be honest I try not to judge but I find promiscuity somewhat disgusting in a potential partner. Did I get my biology all jumbled or something? Occam's Razor would suggest that men and women prefer their partners not to cheat for the same reason: jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 10:10 PM
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My boyfriend isn't a moron in any part of his brain. All of his brain gets the "this chick can't get pregnant". And if it were all about the pregnancy, he would theoretically be ok with me getting fucked in the ass by a bunch of dudes while he's at work, right? He's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 10:04 PM
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My boyfriend is not ok with me "loving two people at once". Befor you say "but BABIES" even when I had serious fertility problems and couldn't conceive, he wanted a monogamous relationship. What could be better evidence than the fact that monogamy is the standard in our society and people have the tendency to get jealous/possessive of their SO's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 09:58 PM
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Sometimes it's disinterest, but I think it's way easier to be a girl into tonka trucks than a guy into barbies. It's easier for a woman to tell all her friends she loves action films than a guy to openly proclaim his love of rom-coms. Boys/men who consume female-centric media and toys are typically picked on more harshly than girls/women who consume male-centric media and toys. Edit: I'm going to expand on this more and take it in a somewhat different direction, because I was thinking about whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 08:06 PM
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I'm so sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:40 PM
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He was depressed and an addict before he was even married the first time. Did the divorces make things worse? Sure. But they didn't cause his problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:32 PM
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I think this is quite the overreaction to "if you don't want to get married, don't get married". I'll be getting married, I don't care, but if other people don't want to I'm not going to tell them to "be brave".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 10:32 PM
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Go to therapy about your fear of divorce then? I mean, I avoid walking at night in my fairly safe neighborhood because I'm terrified I'll be murdered, but since I don't need to walk at night to have a happy and healthy life, it doesn't concern me, even though it's a bit paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 02:20 PM
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Thanks =]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 03:00 AM
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Eh. If you're concerned that your life and happiness will be ruined by divorce and you will possibly be driven to suicide, then don't get married. That's TRP advice, isn't it, not to get married? It's not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 03:00 AM
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Look, this is like using Real Housewives of Wherever to make a point about how American wives live or the Jersey Shore to explain to people what life in New Jersey is like. No one takes these people seriously. These are people who decided that going on a reality TV show was a good idea, I don't think they are representative of most people. Plus, you know the show hypes up the drama on purpose right? That's how they get viewers. Reality TV isn't reality. Are they all behaving like assholes? Yeah.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:29 AM
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Sounds like two unstable people who appear to be having fun with each other? Good for them, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:19 AM
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Don't get married then. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:10 AM
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I just bought an awesome dresser. It's got 8 drawers and a little jewlery box cabinet and a tri fold mirror--basically everything I wanted in a dresser. I tried to take a picture to post, but I can't get anywhere near decent quality, so you'll just have to picture it. Got it for only $130 at a thrift store and it just has a couple minor dings and a stain that's covered by my makeup box anyway. And my SO actually likes it and doesn't think it is a monstrosity invading our room, which is a huge re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 03:27 AM
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He's seriously the sweetest guy ever. I just left an amazing job and all the kids I formed bonds with while I worked there to move in with him on Friday and he has been awesome throughout it all. He keeps telling me how much he appreciates normal stuff I'm doing, like cooking dinner and emptying the dishwasher because he knows I'm stressed about all the big changes. You wouldn't think it's that exceptional, unless you knew how absolutely cranky and difficult to be sweet to I am during life chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 03:19 AM
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No, aversion isn't just showing polite disinterest, aversion is disgust or strong dislike of someone. Polite disinterest is fine, aversion not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:33 PM
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You mean you want people to say "ew get away from me" instead of just "not interested, sorry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 02:03 AM
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Yeah, that's fair. I think it would help our obesity problem a lot if we made healthy food more accessible to the poor, so I wouldn't be opposed to food stamps coming with a nutrition course and rewards for using them on healthier foods. But that would be expensive and take effort/organization, and although it would probably be more efficient long term, I doubt the government would be able to implement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:40 AM
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There was a study done that showed that obese people actually cost less in tax dollars than thin people because they live don't live as long or suffer from long geriatric illnesses. If tax dollars are the concern, it's old people you should be upset with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:20 AM
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It must suck to live with all that anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:16 AM
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Neither is acceptable. You can't help your preferences and as long as acting on them doesn't hurt anyone or break the law, do your thing. However, there's a difference between having a sexual preference and showing aversion to someone you're not attracted to. I don't think it's ok for anybody to show aversion to someone just because they don't find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 09:17 PM
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Not at all. I've met people with RP-like ideas, but I've never met anyone irl who has seriously read TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 10:23 PM
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Have you read State of Fear by Michael Crichton? The title passage talks about fear inducing media and how crime rates haven't gone up(actually the opposite), but the media reports extensively on any crime they can find so we feel like violent crime is common. Fear based media aside though, I wouldn't let a stranger into my car, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 10:15 PM
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I live just outside of Baltimore, the murder rate is much higher here. And I know that the chances of me being murdered by a stranger are low, but that doesn't stop me from taking precautions. Probably no one will try to break into my apartment at night, but I still lock my doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:01 PM
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Er...Maryland. The guy told us a half a dozen stories of people dying from road rage, hijackers, being stranded on the side of the road, and helping people stranded on the side of the road. And I'm already a paranoid person(he probably was as well, I doubt that stuff happens often), so I just avoid those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:36 AM
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a) Sure b) Exercise is a great idea. I can't tell you how many of my possessions I broke before I realized going for a run releases the same amount of tension and is actually good for me. Cleaning too, I clean when I'm pissed off and it gets my energy out. Things that aren't productive but also aren't destructive: screaming in the car while you're driving, stress balls, punching bags, violent video games, etc. c) Sure. Obviously, there are people into safe dominance. Personally, I equate anger w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 12:01 AM
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Personally, I would love to stop and help people on the side of the road, but I'm afraid they'll kill me. My driver instructor told us never to do that because they may be faking car trouble and once you pull over they'll hijack your car and leave your murdered body in a ditch. Anyway, everyone has cell phones these days, if they don't have stuff to change their tire or whatever, they can call someone. Or the police will come by eventually on patrol. They'll be alright without you, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 11:29 PM
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Because he wants to? If he doesn't want to then he shouldn't chose to. I literally couldn't care less who Joe chooses to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 11:20 PM
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There was a great post about women changing[1] a week ago. That asserts the polar opposite of what you are saying. You are saying in the OP that men can(and should) change women. The linked post says it's impossible. The gist of it is, she has to want to change for you Well, that's not the gist of it, but that's also an incorrect point. Change for someone else is unstable and insincere change. You want to make a real change? You can start by doing it for other people but ultimately, if you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:00 PM
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Now does it really sound so bad? Yeah, there should be no "basic obedience" between spouses. Also, none of that was about improvement. Helping your partner recognize their shortcomings and improve is a good thing, but you didn't put that on your training list because you don't help dogs improve by training them, you get them to do what you want. It also shouldn't make you love your partner more if they improve, because if you can't accept their shortcomings on the assumption that they won't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:04 PM
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Though, honestly if I could I'd apply it all the time indiscriminately (male or female) because Im just curious in spying on other people. Me too. People are fascinating. And weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 02:09 AM
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Ok, well off the top of my head, courage, risk taking, spatial logic, and physical strength. Gender and sexual organs are pretty different, but you said innate differences between men and women. The only absolute and exclusive differences between the sexes, across the board, are sex organs. Pffft, like about the historical definition of masculinity in opposition to femininity. Which is why femininity is allowed to be so fluid whereas masculinity is a bit more rigid and more...tested. But instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 05:34 AM
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What are they Absolute differences? Genetalia, womb, and breasts. There are other general differences, but other than that there's nothing absolute. Which is why its silly to want something entirely male exclusive(or female exclusive). Or did you want general differences? Then by all means enlighten me and this board. I've already brought up a few points, what is it you wanted to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:45 PM
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Its not -in opposition to-, its that men aren't women No but it is. Because if it was just that men aren't women(which in itself is an oppositional definition of man) then it would be ok for men to take pride in honor, even if women were also capable of honor. The fact that it has to be wholly unique to men does make it oppositional. And, if men and women are so different, why do these unique traits have to be contrived? We'll teach men to take pride in masculinity, and no matter how horrible yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:12 PM
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I never argued that anyone was evil. Everyone has complicated motives for what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 12:28 AM
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We can't all be all the same and unique at the same time, something got to give. No, but groups can be capable of the same things and individuals can be unique. No. not ,If an action is unique to men. You were saying that it had to be unique to men, or else it would be a problem. I don't think that's the case. If there is a need , then it is necessary . Isn't it? Already edited. It's not a need, imo, it's a desire. I misspoke. I believe its a psychological imperative to be able to define yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 09:52 PM
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Is self defense a justification for murder? Yes, that would be the definition of self defense. Wikipedia isn't the greatest source, but: The use of the right of self-defense as a legal justification for the use of force in times of danger is available in many jurisdictions, but the interpretation varies widely. I personally don't think cheating is ever justifiable. It's fine if you do, I just wanted to point out that you do in some special cases, but not this one, since you said otherwise. he at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 09:49 PM
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Maybe don't marry someone you've only been dating for a year? If it's already years down the line then you have a fairly good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 09:12 PM
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The point of not justifying cheating is that it doesn't matter why you cheated, it's wrong. Do I think the situations are the same? No, of course not. Does that mean you didn't justify his cheating? No. I agree, but from what he sayd a unilateral divorce would hurt her and she isn't giving him a consensual one. So do it anyway. It's her fault for not agreeing to the divorce. There is, imo, no rational reason at all to stay in a marriage that you are no longer committed to and that makes you mise…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 09:01 PM
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Men can do everything women can and vice versa. Why does anyone need a special gender thing? I don't take pride in being good at picking up on social cues because I'm a woman, it has nothing to do with being a woman and everything to do with growing up in an environment where reading social cues was necessary. I don't feel slighted that my brother is just as capable because it's "a woman thing" and I need it to myself. People saying that men are negative things and aren't positive things is both…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:47 PM
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Their own personal accomplishments and achievements?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 01:00 PM
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Yeah, I know I made the right choice. I could easily have missed out on years of a partnership that has benefitted me immensely, but I took a chance and it paid off. No one has ever accused me of being an optimist, lol, but I tend to have faith in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 12:05 AM
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I have been cheated on before. I made the decision to stay in the relationship for a variety of reasons. Same. Pretty much all of that situation you described happened in my relationship. I always thought that I would never forgive cheating, but when I was faced with the situation and a genuine apology I just forgave. I was actually just thinking today about how it still stings a bit but I do genuinely forgive him and it doesn't hurt that much anymore. Straight up hate the other woman though. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 11:24 PM
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She definitely used feminism to justify what she did She actually explicitly didn't. I'm not saying she didn't mentally, I don't know what's in her head, but she made a point in the article o not use feminism as a justification: I am definitely a feminist, but this had nothing to do with expressing my freedom as a woman, or general human being for that matter, or anything along those lines
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 11:16 PM
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Nevertheless it was cheating, which you are coming up with a justification for. So you're previous statement is incongruent with that. I don't think most of TRP advocates or is ok with cheating, quite the contrary, but to say "we don't" is kind of disingenuous. You, as in you personally, do. Also, imo a divorce might hurt but so does cheating. I think he should get a divorce if he's that miserable and doesn't love your wife anymore, don't sneak around with other people. I don't get why he was st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 11:12 PM
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Can't you enjoy both?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 11:09 PM
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but having ONS or casual relationships in between is out of caracter for most people. But you told me that you can't commit to an LTR unless you have casual sex before/in between, so which is it? Also, it's pretty normal for most people to have a mix of serious and casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:51 PM
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We don't cheat. We don't invent justifications to cheat. Did you miss this thread? Nah, you didn't. You said not to judge the cheater because "he was honest eventually". So was this lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:27 PM
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Having played the sociopath games with a diagnosed narcissist, I can confirm: everyone loses. You can't have an emotionally healthy relationship with a seriously emotionally unstable partner. It just doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:23 PM
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What a shit person. Who cheats on their SO shamelessly and then writes about it on the internet? Did she expect people to be like "oh, yeah, that makes sense". Fuck no. Even if he really and truly forgave her, it still hurts. You might forgive, but you don't forget. I love myself more than my SO. He loves himself more than me. That's totally normal, I would be worried if it was otherwise. I don't expect him to make enormous sacrifices for me and vice versa. Nevertheless, we don't go around doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:16 PM
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So since we're all cruising through /u/redpillschool's history and finding things to criticize him for, there's this comment, which is absolutely ridiculous because men fail to report rape all the time, possibly more than women fail to report rape. Rape has an underlying sexual shame to it that prevents people of all genders and walks of life from wanting to report it. But I wouldn't put him up as the spokesperson of TRP. He's a mod, sure, but that doesn't mean he's a good representative. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 09:26 PM
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As far as a waning sex drive goes, starting with a discussion on the topic is, I think, an important first step. The point of communication isn't in itself to solve the issue, it is to figure out what kind of action is necessary and whether or not the issue can be resolved. If you already have the solution(be more attractive by doing x, y, and z) than by all means skip the communication. Otherwise, you're just fumbling in the dark. But ime, communication does not always go well, to be sure. Star…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 01:35 AM
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My SO used to drive a minivan and I know I went down on him in it at least once. We kicked his friend out and had sex in there parked outside the friends house, which in retrospect was incredibly rude. I possibly gave him a blowjob in it once while he was driving? But I preferred his pickup truck. But apparently now it's distracting and I always try to do it in four lane traffic or whatever. Pssh, concentration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 12:25 AM
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Maybe there's a good reason. My beliefs are based on experience with this exact situation. Are yours? Is it loving you? Or Sex? Loving sex, lol, I don't refer to myself as an it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 03:11 PM
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I'm a woman, can I reverse the genders? 1) BP 2) Tell him I'm busy and I'll be free in a few hours. Unless he has a history of doing stupid shit when he's upset and indicated to me that he would do stupid shit, I wouldn't drop everything to go see him. It would probably be weird anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 03:06 PM
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Only way to find out things that you don't' know about yourself. The only way? I mean, maybe you would find out things about yourself, but I doubt they'd be good things. Actually the opposite is true over time. Definitely most people's initial reaction. Actually it's not. Have you been in a relationship where one partner had sex they didn't want? Because I have and I can tell you, it destroyed any desire he had for sex over a period of about a year. How long should I have waited before he starte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:57 PM
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I would think that she wouldn't be so blind-sided if they had talked about it plenty. But I think all of this--the e-mail while she's away, the refusal to return calls, and if you're right, deciding to leave while she's gone--points to a very passive aggressive mindset. Which I assume is probably not a mindset you can really understand, as a RPer, since you're probably used to confronting people and being assertive. This guy, not so much. So my assumption is that he couldn't find the courage to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:53 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure. As a passive aggressive person myself, I can tell you that it's not unheard of to not talk about what's bothering you, build up resentment for months, and then finally send an angry e-mail when you know that they can't respond right away. I could very much see it happening. I think you assume, because you probably confront issues head-on, that that's what he did. But it's possible he didn't admits he had to send it to her work email, because she would have ignored it other…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:47 PM
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Why would he be asleep every morning, unless she gets up super early? I didn't take "up to have sex" as literally up and awake, I assume she meant he didn't feel like it in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:40 PM
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...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:37 PM
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however good recommendation is to have sex when you don't want to on both sides What? Why? Why would you even want to have sex with someone who's not into it? That immediately turns me off, and you can always tell. Or I can anyway. Maybe sometimes have sex when you don't mind but don't particularly want to, but to have sex when you actively don't want to is just not going to be fun for anyone and destroy whatever sexual desire you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:10 AM
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Yeah, except this was my relationship for a while, only I was shot down way more often. You grow up and learn that just because your partner doesn't want sex doesn't mean they don't love you. And you either leave or work through it, not stomp your feet and "go insane". Doesn't TRP talk about how nobody can make you feel something? Your feelings are your fault, if lack of sex makes you insane, that's on you. And for as much as you think it's the worst possible fate, I am glad that in my relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:01 AM
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So wait, she offered sex in the morning and he turned her down? If that's true then he's just being ridiculous and they need to work out a schedule or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:51 AM
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Man, there were months when I was shot down 30 out of 30 times and I wouldn't have done that. Did I have times when I sure as hell wanted to? Sure. Did I have a list of his go to excuses and roll my eyes when he used them again and again? Yes. Did I make things 100% worse by making him feel inadequate and pressured? Yeah, ok, sometimes, but not to this degree. It's a rough place to be in and I've made similarly bitter comments, I lashed out in anger because I was insecure and upset that I wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:48 AM
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Talking about it is supposed to be the first step. Like, before the bitter e-mail and spreadsheet. We're only getting the wife's side and maybe he did try to address it, but it sounds like he didn't even try to talk to her about it. If that doesn't work, you do something else, separate maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:39 AM
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Did I use the word intentionally? No, but the comment you replied to did. So it makes sense that /u/cuittler stuck to their original point that there was no intentional withholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:36 AM
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Friends and employers aren't banging him. But that's also false, he gets plenty of female attention and he hasn't always been obese, but he's always been chubby/overweight. It does though, that's what I'm saying. ...lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 12:25 PM
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Ok, but he's not unattractive, he's the opposite and I mean that objectively. He has a pleasing, attractive face and as far as the weight, I feel like you're picturing the way obesity looks on a middle aged slovenly and unhappy man. Fat is more compact and better distributed in youth and he's clean, dresses well, and smiles a lot. Also, not go out of their way, just that they find him likeable. I'm not discounting the self-esteem boost of having a good job as a factor. The market is based on cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 12:21 AM
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this combined with the obesity part makes me find this really unbelievable. Sorry what? Obese people can't get jobs? Can't get along with people? I mean, it helps that he's really good at what he does too, but he's likeable in that adorable Michael Cera way and he's an attractive person with warm, trust-inspiring features. People tend to like him, even though he is obese, is that genuinely hard to believe? but I think he is very hard on himself and that makes you unhappy Of course it makes me sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 11:05 PM
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I'm neutral good for both. First one: Good: 35 Evil: 25 Lawful: 31 Chaotic: 29 Second one: Good: 61.1% Lawful: 2.6%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 09:56 PM
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society considers you to be Yeah, people think he's great, because he is. He's get along with everyone and he gets offered jobs he doesn't meet the minimum qualifications for, he just struggles sometimes with social interactions and reading social cues. Not to an extreme though. And I have the charisma and draw that all crazy people have. Awkwardness is considered cute when it comes from young pretty people. I told you, we're not outcasts, we're just recluses(or I am anyway). I know you are a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 09:22 PM
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Pssh, I'm not like a narcissist. I straight up am a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 08:30 PM
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Also fat people have some issues, their glotony is just a symptom We're talking about sexual attraction, not creating a soda tax, so your pandering is pointless. Everyone cares, but that is to deep for you to understand or accept in this conversation. Oh please. If you want to make a point, just spit it out. Don't avoid it by making some vague "you wouldn't understand" statements. This is a debate sub--debate, don't evade. oh, you have issues to, that is so cute You know what's weird? Lots of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:50 PM
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I'm completely calm, thanks for your concern. You said that instead of saying the self awareness stuff, you should say "I know women", which is a comment you did say to me. All I ask is that you be upfront about it if that's what you think. I'm a big girl, I can handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:22 PM
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You kinda miss the point of not being autistic and telling the person to her face that she has the emotional self awareness of a dog. Is that directed at me? Because if so please, if you're going to say it, have the decency to say it to my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 09:27 PM
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Actually I do know what women are thinking, that is the whole point of the red pill Well I thought you were trying to base your statement in actual data, rather than your personal opinion. the fact that it is the easiest quantifier Ha. No. Would you rather date a thin person with an ugly face or an overweight attractive person? I'm pretty sure most people would pick the latter. But you chose him for a particular set of reasons that most don't consider sufficient, otherwise he wouldn't be sociall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 09:23 PM
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I already mentioned: piky in regard to atractiveness. But they will engage with anything within reach and settle. Or maybe they message the guys because they don't think they're better than them or that the guys aren't good enough. Obviously, neither of us knows what the women are thinking, but the fact that they send these guys messages suggests, if anything, that they don't think the men aren't good enough. You're assuming they're settling, but maybe they're not. Think about how many relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:09 PM
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which would make the women less choosy theoretically As /u/piotir pointed out in the comment above, women are less choosy on OKCupid, at least in comparison to their male counterparts. women think 80% of men are beneath them(in attractiveness, That's not supported by the OKCupid findings. It never said that the women found themselves attractive, or more attractive than the men they rated below average. you just don't see the 50% that just aren't dating and looking for love. Yeah, you also don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 12:15 PM
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Yes, some of RPW is sensible advice. And I occasionally consider myself a feminist? I definitely fit your definition of feminism, minus the part where men are above women in most aspects of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 12:10 AM
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May go out for sushi tonight I totally want to order sushi takeout, but I'm not sure I can justify spending the money on it. But, you know, maybe if I don't eat anything else this week?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 08:12 PM
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Meh. Chili takes effort. Unless I have a can of chili in the pantry still...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:58 AM
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But you don't have to be in love or stay with someone to continue loving them. To me, unconditional love just means that you will love and care for the person no matter what, as you said you would for your husband. Even if it's from far away, for your safety or sanity, I think that's unconditional love. I don't think most people can even do that, though. I mean, if you found out your husband had been raping and murdering small children the entire time you knew him, it might shake your love, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:56 AM
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My worst nightmare is getting caught in one of those water slides with the closed tubes. What do you do that makes me claustrophobic and panicky? My worst literal nightmares were probably of my baby brother dying or my love interest at the time being crucified. When do you plan on killing them? Edit: Also, what should I eat for dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:38 AM
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Why is everyone on here a dog person? What's wrong with you people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 08:36 PM
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Hunger is the best spice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 11:54 PM
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though he was quite downvoted. Did you read the comments? He took a crazy pill like half-way through and I'm pretty sure that's why he was downvoted. In any case, I agree with the top comment. The whole feel of the post is "women must compromise and I will be unyielding(because that's apparently what they want but no reason for that conclusion is really given). Why are these women so unyielding?" It's not compromise if you don't both yield a bit. Women seem to want picky men Ok but what are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 01:19 AM
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I don't find other people tempting, so I have it easy. Everyone else pretty much sucks. If I felt tempted, I would break up with my boyfriend first, that's just common decency. Would you believe your mate if they said that they were faithful after you found they were in a completely compromising situation (i.e. in a room alone with a naked lady/man) Yes, because he's never lied about that stuff and the way I found out about it(this did actually happen) was through him telling me just to be upfro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 08:33 PM
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As a crazy girl, I reject your premise. That is not why guy's are attracted to me, I'm average looking and I don't even put out. I've been told I'm criminally insane by guys looking at me with eager eyes: they know I'm crazy and they love it. Crazy is exciting. And everyone wants their partner to treat them like shit to a certain extent because then nothing is ever their fault. Also, the only "bad boys" I knew with a high success rate were ridiculously good looking or in high school. Ime, that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/14 12:58 PM
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an ordinary narcissist I have never heard of narcissists having rescuer tendencies. Ime, that's always the seriously codependent dudes. I "win" with the codependents for sure, but it's a pretty empty victory that makes you feel like shit, like pushing over a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 03:58 PM
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I've tended to run the other way when faced with that type of behavior You'd think that would be the natural reaction, but people are drawn to me in the same way people are drawn to Dark Triad. God knows why, I spend all my energy effectively trying to drive them away. effectively cultivated a near-autistic social blindness, because if I let myself be aware of other people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses, I couldn't stop myself from using them. Manipulation is so second nature to me that I do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 01:08 AM
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Ime, being with a narcissist kind of crushed all my more explosive BPD tendencies and made me into a passive aggressive calculated manipulator. He wasn't immune, but it turned quickly into a battle of wits and strength and ego. The site that hyperreal linked intrigues me because it says the borderline always wins, lol. I feel like I decidedly lost. I mean, the way the site describes narcissism actually sounds more like codependence, especially the "rescuer" stuff. I would think that the Dark Tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 12:14 AM
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Isn't that what a bad boy is? A hot dude who happens to be insane? Also, crazy in and of itself is something that pulls in some men. Men can be codependent too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 11:58 PM
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Well, maybe someday, when we retire. Anyway, thanks for the respectful debate and happy fourth, if you're American!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 04:19 AM
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front for safe fulfilment of biological needs. Sex isn't a need. I went 20 years without it and didn't care in the least. It's not a need. Most people are just social zombies when they are single, when comitment is a obvious choice Er...no. I'm sorry if you were really lonely and sad before you had sex, but that's not how everyone is. and an emotional things (prestige, friends, family), only the latter are actual sacrifices when put in balance with a relationship As much as I disagree with that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 01:06 PM
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Yeah, I mean if you want to be seen as a sexual being, act like a sexual being. But nothing about being sexual is "bad" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 02:00 AM
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Mutual friends. Work. And they tend to gravitate towards online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 01:53 AM
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you can't have sex and not enjoy it. You most certainly can. But yes, I did enjoy my freedom and my money and I sure do wish I could move to Russia right now. But he does government security stuff, he can't move to Russia with me and I'd rather live his world than live without him in mine. I think casual sex is a stage of individual development without which people can not say they experienced life fully Why do you think that? Because you enjoy it? It's not for everyone. You can't measure a fulf…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 01:49 AM
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it is when two people that already enjoy life as individuals decide to give up some of their freedom for the sake of another and due to the increased benefits that another adds to their life. Sure, ok. I did enjoy life and the fact that I didn't have casual sex doesn't mean I wasn't a fulfilled person. And I do give up certain freedoms, I don't have as much free time, I spend more money than I would if single, and I have to make compromises about where to live, I can't just go wherever I want. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 10:13 PM
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making my food and taking care of me is what she honestly enjoys It's a gratifying thing, I think it's similar to men who want to make more money than their spouse and provide for them financially. It's just different ways to take care of the person you love. I think people sometimes get really caught up in the big, historical picture of gender roles and oppression that they no longer see the love behind an individual's choice to take care of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 09:57 PM
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No I am definitively blue pill. I'm just introspective and self-aware and don't particularly care to hide who I am. Especially not on the internet, with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 08:48 PM
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I call it being a narcissistic attention whore, but that works too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 08:27 PM
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Are you able to cheat on your boyfriend in the next 24 hours if you would want to?(phisically, emotionally actually do the actions). There's craigslist. It's summer, so most of the college kids are gone, but I'm sure I could, yes, if I had even the slightest desire to. Have you never cheated on your boyfriend? Physically, emotionally, even out of anger(anything counts). Ha, no. I have zero want or motivation to. I don't even fantasize about other guys, I already have the most attractive guy in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 08:26 PM
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Nope. I love it when people are eager to be with me, full stop. It makes me feel good and strokes my ego. I encourage everyone to love me and want to be around me and think about me all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 08:08 PM
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they probably mean anybody with a normal social life who's not looking for commitment and is focusing on their career Well that's circular logic...people who aren't looking for commitment don't enter a committed relationship, yes. That makes sense. My point is that the people who aren't looking for commitment don't make up most of the population of young people. . anti-social and mentally unstable people are included in your definition of everyone, so don't straw man this. Why would you want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 08:06 PM
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See but just because you are having lots of casual sex(I gather that's what you're saying) does not mean everyone around you is all the time. You don't even know that the girls you're sleeping with have casual sex more than once or twice. The person I responded to said that almost everyone was having tons of casual sex in there early/mid twenties. You don't think that's exaggerated?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:56 PM
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I've been dating him exclusively for the past two years. We don't live together. My best friend has been with her boyfriend for three years. A couple other friends of mine are in newer relationships but committed ones. It isn't rare at all. My friend who has been in the longest committed relationship is a hardcore feminist. And she's been supporting her boyfriend financially for the last couple of years. They just moved in together, literally yesterday. We met at a liberal arts college. I'm curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:52 PM
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Old women cannot have and don’t have healthy children. Well that's extreme to say the least. My mom had my youngest brother when she was 41, he's 11 now and displaying no signs of disability or poor health. To the second point, my parents are married and I can bet I have way more emotional baggage than most children of divorce do. That's a silly metric, and increasingly difficult to make a realistic goal. Who imagines that they'll get divorced? People don't have a constant weight. Especially whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 03:07 AM
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my SO has been ostracized for being traditionally feminine and being a SAHW several times by her more "progressive" friends. I've heard of that happening, but even that doesn't happen in my social circles. I mostly hang out with young liberal people, but they've never looked down on me for wanting to be a SAHM. My best friend is a hardcore feminist and plans to be a SAHM herself. I don't know what you mean by traditional femininity, but I don't get flak for wearing dresses and makeup and the lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 01:55 AM
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Well that's silly for one, because I love it when people are eager to be with me. Doesn't everyone? And also, as I said, in this instance that's not what's repellent. It's the alarming disregard for the institution of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 01:45 AM
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Why would anyone want to marry someone who would up and marry them tomorrow? I think most people are far less impulsive than that. I certainly don't know anyone who would spontaneously marry me, nor would I want to know them well. Marriage is a very serious commitment and not something to step into lightly. It's not about being overly eager, it's about not thinking through a life changing decision or considering the consequences. That level of spontaneity is worrisome, are you going to just move…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 11:25 PM
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I have never once felt rejected for being in a committed relationship since I was 20(with a super attractive guy, ftr, so I'm not unfuckable lol). Most of my peers are in LTRs as well. And a few of them are also feminists in their early 20s. People tend to exaggerate the amount of casual sex young people are having, I don't think it's as much the norm as you think. I can't imagine being ostracized for not being promiscuous, I have never seen that happen irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 11:13 PM
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Just because two advice columnists agree with TRP doesn't all of a sudden make it true. And it doesn't mean most young women agree with that advice either. Advice from strangers is rarely good ime. I think there's a lot of projecting going on there too. Not every woman rejects mature, healthy relationships when they're younger. Maybe as young teens, but plenty of girls grow out of that stage in high school. Just like plenty of guys do. I don't think guys should just be patient, but you don't nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 11:07 PM
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Did you learn it on Arthur? I learned it on Arthur, along with how to spell the word aardvark.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 08:43 PM
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I am somewhat confused at how often I've had versions of "sorry if that offends you" thrown at me. Either I come across as way more offended than I actually am, or it's just meant to be dismissive. Or both, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 08:42 PM
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Dogs are too happy. I cannot deal level of constant happiness, it's upsetting to me. And they have insane amounts of energy. I like cats because they will indulge in moodiness with me, while also making me happy by letting me sit there and pet it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 08:38 PM
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I would guess that it's usually because the comment either struck a nerve, they don't like the commenter, or they're angry for some unrelated reason. I'm also not sure why someone saying one is "winning" at relationships is the worst thing in the world. I think you might be taking me a bit too seriously here. I never said it was the worst thing in the world, just silly and petty. I took it as competition between man and woman because of the context of the OP, which talks about men developing str…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:58 PM
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Oh, I wasn't offended but I did think it was silly. And I took it literally because OP meant it literally. They clarified that what they legitimately meant was win at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:44 AM
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No problem =] It sucks that the other mods aren't giving you support, but you can still get the word out on your own. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:36 AM
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I read it. I don't know how it applies. There's no way to misinterpret "TRP is the way to win against women's sexual strategy". It wasn't an offhand comment and it's pretty straightforward. I'm just poking fun at the concept because it seems silly to me. Edit: Further evidence that I did not misinterpret would be the OP's response: Seriously, if you're smart and ruthless, it's an "I Win!" button for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:31 AM
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Talk about it a lot in comments, whenever relevant. Message the mods of related subs and see if they'll make a post advertising it. Tell what subscribers you have to mention the sub in comments whenever relevant. And if not many people are posting, you need to make a bunch of posts to keep people's interests up and if it's new, to show them what kind of posts you're hoping for. Dead subs take a lot of nursing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:54 AM
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Same. It makes me look suggestible I guess, but when I learn new information I actually process it and consider changing my worldview if it seems valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:44 AM
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Dogs are better than cats. DOWNVOTE ME AGAIN, CAT-PSYCHOS! Dammit, weirdlemonade, you tricked me into thinking you were a decent human.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:43 AM
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Relationships. Didn't you know you can win those? You can also win at sex, and if you're really good you get the trophy for being the winning gender awarded to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:39 AM
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Pretty sure I'm INFJ? Depending on the test I take, I can also get INFP. I am pretty close to right in the middle for judging over perceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 10:10 PM
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There have been a couple people on here who were former RPers who changed their minds. Wasn't /u/trabant00 a former RPer, or am I making that up? In any case, I've seen posts stating that TRP didn't help them/was too narrow-minded/etc. from people who claimed to have been subscribed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 06:03 PM
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Not that I can remember in specifics, but it's enlightening to see the responses of people here. I'm fairly anti-RP but I've had good conversations with RPers and facepalmed at some of the things BPers said here. I think that kind of thing is necessary to prevent yourself from getting too narrow minded and high and mighty. So it's not like this has been a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 05:56 PM
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I'm not at all offended, I'm just curious about your response because most men I know have all the blowjobs their heart's desire. And I take it you've never really had a overly attached SO. I have never heard anyone describe it as a positive and its generally thought to be annoying, disturbing, manipulative, and an invasion of privacy and personal space, among other things. There's a reason they tell you not to stick your dick in crazy. Men should have some input Well, the lack of emotional vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:38 AM
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Oh, ok. I was just taken aback because your response was basically "I agree completely, except I think the exact opposite". Also, blowjobs are pretty darn common. Are you living in a really sad part of the world where blowjobs are so rare you'd put up with someone calling and crying every day asking if you love her just to get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 07:28 PM
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Eh, the media isn't the biggest thing getting people to diet. Sure, it has an effect, but what has a bigger effect is the real people who you interact with putting pressure on you. I started feeling shitty about my body because of my sister teasing me and started dieting while at an all-girl's school with my mom pushing me towards it. I know a lot of girls with eating disorders, and they generally don't talk about the media making them want to be thin, it's other people. Sometimes those other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:53 PM
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Wait...what? You gave everyone else mature and reasonable responses, so I'm kind of not sure if you're serious or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:45 PM
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Women as a whole aren't responsible for anything. Neither are men. As an individual woman, though, I'm responsible for the fact that my apartment is a mess and I didn't put sheets on my bed yet. Or call my mom back. And I was late to pick someone up tonight, that was my bad. What the majority of women are responsible for...I don't know, they don't give men enough emotional validation, I guess. School system? Are women mostly in administrative roles in schools as well as teachers? If so, fuck the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:19 AM
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I'm arguing that the biological dad should be involved in his child's life from day #1. Ok. But the whole point of this thread is that they weren't, they find out later, after the non-biological parent started raising the child. And again, I'm not suggesting that person adopt the child, merely stay in the child's life, send a postcard, have some visits, take the kid out for ice cream once a week. Or something. Well, we have paternal child support, and men don't get to make decisions about what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 10:37 PM
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I have never seen it offered period. The only time I ever hear it is when it's being mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 10:13 PM
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The benefit of not admitting to a mistake and looking foolish or whatever outweighs the benefit of changing course and doing something more effective. But the benefit is still there, and the original decision was made in the hope of some benefit. We're not always rational, but we are always looking out for our own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 08:46 PM
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I'm not. I never even said the husband should be responsible in any way, I said it would be nice to stay in the child's life. You can throw some new daddy at the child, but he didn't raise the child, he didn't bond with him/her during that crucial time period. The child's always going to miss what they probably consider their real dad if he disappears completely. And the husband will probably miss the child and want to stay in their life anyway, I imagine. This situation is a little more complic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 02:32 PM
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a poor person can be more "classy" than a rich person Well, the word is literally classy so in practice that really isn't the case. The idea of being a classy person often has a lot to do with socioeconomic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 10:32 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 10:17 PM
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I have forgiven a mainly physical one time instance of cheating, with a lot of difficulty and time. It still makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it, two years later. I've never really been emotionally cheated on, so I don't actually know how I would handle it. Both hurt a lot, I'm sure. I guess I see the emotional affair as slightly more painful because it seems less spontaneous, heat of the moment, and more thought out and conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 03:08 AM
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It's impossible to make a choice that does not benefit you. If there was no benefit, you wouldn't do it. Human's are inherently selfish, there's no such thing as a selfless act. Show me where mankind has associated with others in a way that doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 04:30 PM
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How odd. I don't think a jealous thought of past loves has ever crossed my mind. Not that getting jealous of past sexual partners is any more sensible or healthy, but I can relate to that. I get an intense emotional reaction to imagining my SO having sex with other girls, but not loving them. I'm glad he loved them, it would make me way more uncomfortable if he didn't and/or mistreated them. At the same time, I would be more bothered by an emotional affair than a physical one. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 04:30 PM
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The reverse is also true. If a woman wants to be with a man who derives no benefit from her, than no association takes place. That's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 03:29 PM
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That linked post is weird. I can't imagine anyone thinks like that...do they? The fact that it's written like a bad infomercial doesn't help, but the concept is bizarre. I'd prefer to hear that my SO told 30 girls he loved them then fucked 30 girls. "Love" gets thrown about casually all the time, it doesn't mean anything. Sex is tangible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 03:27 PM
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I don't know, you just came across to me as defensive when it didn't seem like Exner2 was saying there was anything wrong with objectification. I guess it doesn't really matter, just struck me as odd. But again, it doesn't really matter. Forget I said anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 03:24 AM
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Yeah, except nobody ever said anything else needs to matter. They just pointed out the facts, there was no should or should not involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 11:09 PM
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I don't know why you are defending your life choices when /u/Exner2 never said objectification or the reasons RP uses it was bad. Literally the opposite was said in what you quoted. Nobody tried to tell you it was a bad life choice, where are you getting that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:39 PM
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I don't deem women being a bitch a week out of every month as particularly beneficial to anyone, but I'm not going to hold them against them or deny them their nature. That's really not a thing that happens to the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 02:53 AM
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I would love the opportunity. I want a virgin boyfriend. Why? I don't know. I have no logical reason, I just always wanted to be someone's first. And I prefer low count in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 02:49 AM
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I've spent a good deal of time with early to mid-20's women in Baltimore, New York, and Philly--all coastal cities--and very few of them were engaging in casual sex. Most of them were in LTR's heading towards marriage or engaged/married. And most of them aren't religious. It's not at all difficult to find a young woman looking for an LTR and hoping for marriage, they're not unicorns. I highly doubt they're even the minority. Perhaps, though, most of them are already taken by guys who haven't was…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 06:38 PM
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I'm harboring Tim Gunn as a fugitive. You can't have him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 06:13 PM
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Ok. Well for the record, I am not RP, my flair doesn't exactly make that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 06:00 AM
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How old is the child? If they're like 5 or older and have already bonded with the dad, even if he isn't biologically the father...it might be nice to stay in the kid's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 05:58 AM
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I shut down and run on autopilot. Usually involves using negative coping skills to numb the problem so I have enough energy to go to work or school or whatever it is that needs doing. Conceal don't feel. I don't know how it ties into the way I view the world, I just don't want people to think I'm a failure so I push on. I have to. Or else I have to kill myself, which I'm told is a bad thing to do or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 05:52 AM
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Well, I'm looking at this on an individual level, based on me and my relationship, not offering an overarching strategy to rival TRP. So I can only give anecdotes about my life. What initially attracted me to my SO would probably not work for a different kind of girls, although it has been successful with the girls he has a preference for. And he does play the relationship game, because a relationship is more important to him than sex. So yeah it is kind of just luck that it came together becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 04:47 PM
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Well, that depends. Comparatively, yes I would say my sex life is more successful just by being in a relationship. I don't have any interest in casual sex, so being single would mean no sex at all. I do have a higher libido than my partner and we're currently long distance for a while and don't get to see each other much, so I can't say I get all the sex I want. But it is enough to keep me happy. I actually used strategies from Athol Kay's MMSL with my SO when his libido was almost in the negati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 03:03 PM
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Is this because people who subscribe to TBP see malicious intents all the time anyways? Not at all! I'm often blindsided by malicious actions. Except on a large scale, like those little girls in Wisconsin who stabbed their friend, that didn't shock me. I know terrible things happen in the world, but I don't expect it of people in my vicinity. Do they feel the world is generally a safe place where people mean well and just want answers to hard questions or is everyone a potential rapist? Depends.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 12:55 AM
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No need to turn it, everything's already inherently about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 12:32 AM
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Well, one of the most obvious signs would be following the strategy and not doing the opposite of what it says. But honestly, I'm pretty naive, if you were good you could lay some strategy on me and I wouldn't know. I don't suspect people of playing games with me, generally, so the thought wouldn't cross my mind. The only reason I can speak with certainty is because the majority of the behaviors advocated on TRP are not exhibited by my partner, and often the opposite behaviors are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 12:31 AM
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I've only had sex with one person, so that makes it easier to speak with certainty. I also didn't say that he never exhibits TRP approved behaviors(although he is often in opposition), but that he doesn't follow their strategy. What I meant was that he doesn't subscribe to TRP, I'm not trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater. but they also did not show any confidence or decision-making ability? Pretty much, lol. My SO and I sit around wondering what to do for dinner for almost an hour mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 12:22 AM
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Don't worry, I have my beta bucks on lockdown xP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 03:45 PM
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I'm aware. But it isn't too difficult to see that my partner follows none of your beliefs/strategies and is wholly "blue pill". I can say with absolute certainty I haven't had sex with someone following TRP strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 03:42 PM
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I won't be. I have one partner, who only knows of TRP because I told him about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 03:38 PM
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Childhood trauma. Or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 02:42 PM
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This is the way I used to respond to people before I spent too much time on reddit. I need to relearn your tolerance and patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 02:40 PM
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I don't know, you're supposed to be the ones testing it. But if they're having more sex, all I can tell you is its not with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 02:29 PM
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It's actually much more prevalent in men than women. And much more severe than you're estimating.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 02:25 PM
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...it's her fault. Wow, women are human, what a revelation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 01:34 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:16 AM
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It's a lot easier to pull the trigger when you believe nobody cares about you. Yes, I would say that's a big contributer. The fact that the elderly(who have less loved ones and probably feel like a burden to those they have) and adolescents(who often feel like their peers and family hate them) have the highest suicide rates backs that up. But believing no one cares about you and having no one care about you are two very different things when we're looking at the suicidal mindset. Plenty of suici…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:45 PM
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Two things: first, those are not quotes from me, so its not "my work". Second, neither of those quotes mention killing white people at all. Abolishing the social concept of whiteness can be done without killing or hurting a single person. Even out of context, you can guess they're not talking about killing or hurting people, but in context its very clear. Right after that first quote: Our standard response is to draw an analogy with anti-royalism: to oppose monarchy does not mean killing the kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:33 PM
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Nope, zero rights. There all in internment camps right now, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:15 AM
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Yes, I often here liberals calling for the death of blonde white girls...and talking about how blacks are inferior and Asians are ugly. Who, by the way, were also targets of his anger and violent thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:09 AM
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...no. The part where his black roommate talks about losing his virginity to a white woman and he talks about how unfair it is that a white blonde woman would chose to sleep with an unworthy, ugly person like a black man: How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me? I am beautiful, and I am half white myself. I am descended from British aristocracy. He is descended from slaves. I deserve it more...If this is actually true, if this ugly black filth was able to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 12:56 AM
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Did you miss the part where he was incredibly racist? It got under his skin waaay worse when a black or fully asian guy was having sex with a white woman then when a white man was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 11:57 PM
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Men (unless they are underage) aren't scarred to the same degree by a woman raping them that a woman is by a man raping them. What possible evidence do you have to support that? I don't even think you could find one anecdote to back that up. If anything, the shame men raped by women feel is worse than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 11:53 PM
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The equivalent for men to being raped is being raped. Nothing more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 11:49 PM
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From the outset, I'm irritated by the old "these people are more opressed than you! Checkmate!" There's always going to be a group that has it worse, but that shouldn't be a means to shut people down. Should we also not lament the awful state of mental healthcare in America because its worse in Nigeria? Should the unemployed in America stop their bitching because hey, they could be raped and murdered in the streets? One person's hardship doesn't negate another's. I also heard several times in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 11:48 PM
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. It sounds like the RP wife is a co-dependent and her husband is a narcissist (avoiding intimacy through infidelity), and the BP wife is Borderline (BPD) and her husband is a co-dependent/narcissist mix. That doesn't sound like you're saying "on the unhealthy end of the spectrum", it seems like you're saying that it sounds like they have a clinical disorder. Which, frankly, it doesn't at all, no BPD traits were described. The woman doesn't even sound borderline borderline. But that aside, I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 04:38 AM
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How did you get BPD for the BP wife? The only thing that sort of matches up is frequent drinking might be impulsive/reckless behavior, but with friends even that's a stretch. She doesn't sound borderline at all. Being an asshole != BPD. Also, claiming the husband is a narcissist based solely on the fact that he cheats is super extreme. I don't know if you have any real experience with cluster B, but these are full blown mental illnesses your talking about of a very intense nature, some of the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 03:58 AM
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where they have equal footing or standing with the rest of humanity. That's because they do? Having a minority opinion doesn't mean that your opinion is beneath the rest of humanity. For all the flaws in their argument, you pick "not many people think that way"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 06:47 PM
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In a way, yeah. It was fun at the time, but when I found someone worth committing to I realized I never want to go back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 04:29 PM
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I mean, overarching point aside, the reason you were downvoted and called pedantic is because you responded to a post that was obviously a joke and took it very seriously. That's the wrong thing to do on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 04:20 PM
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You are looking at what your parents gain from a purely financial point of view. I don't have to list what benefit you provide and have provided in the past to your parents. I definitely mentioned emotional support, love, and affection several times. I have not provided the same amount of emotional support, love, money, or anything to my parents that they have provided to me. So if you reduce it to a transaction, my parents are an incredibly generous charity. What benefits do I provide my parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/14 05:09 PM
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Why do my parents pour money and energy and time into me when I give them relatively little in return? Because relationships can't be boiled down into transactions. Sure, you could theorize that they are hoping I take care of them in their old age but that's not ever going to even things out. They have money to take care of themselves, none of their children are on track to be anywhere near as financially successful as they are, and its unlikely they'll rack up the debt or emotional strain that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/14 05:03 AM
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My ex boyfriend was accused of rape of his ex girlfriend. Not legally, it was all handled by our university, and he got off. He told me it was a false accusation. I believed him at the time, but I know for a fact now that he is a rapist so I doubt he was all that innocent. Several girls at our school never formally came forward, but I've heard stories from them about his history of rape and sexual assault. There was one guy I worked with who claimed to have been falsely accused of assault. He de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/14 09:07 AM
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Ok, thanks. I have a better understanding of what you're trying to do with this thread now and I'll add a gender specific positive: men can usually carry me like a princess and that's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 08:46 PM
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Having the right genetalia still doesn't necessarily mean I would be physically attracted to them. But even if I was, I couldn't date my best female friend. She's too much of a type-A, assertive, dominant person and she would drive me crazy. It's fine as a friend, but as an SO it would be too much. I look for a certain personality type for my partners that I don't necessarily need or want from my friends. If you SO changed sexes and preferences, would they now become something inherently differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 08:35 PM
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Saying "this is a flaw" is a negative statement. There's nothing wrong with recognizing flaws, but a discussion of flaws is not the same as a discussion of what we like. I mean I really don't care, if this is the sort of thing you had in mind then great. I was just explaining to you why I bothered to point it out in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 08:25 PM
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Oh, well I thought this was just supposed to be about positives, which is why I pointed it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 08:17 PM
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I'm not offended. It's just not really getting rid of the he vs. she dynamic to point out flaws in women in order to compliment men. If you want to keep the criticism, that's fine by me, I just thought I'd point it out so that you could keep the positive vibe you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 07:11 PM
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I'm not exactly the type of social justice advocate you probably had in mind, but it all depends on how it's handled. Murder in movies and other media can normalize and glorify murder, or it can show the tragedy and pain that murder causes and the various consequences it has. Same for rape. Context is important. Also, plenty of people complain about movies and video games normalizing violence in general, this isn't a new idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 05:17 AM
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Not putting up with bad behavior/lack of communication and leaving a relationship that isn't working for you is pretty much the opposite of treating someone like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 05:13 AM
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I'm not sure if you want positives about the opposite sex or just in general, so I'm going general. I like that I finished the goals I set for myself tonight--I literally just finished and I'm rewarding myself with reddit time. I like chocolate. I like how fascinating and complex people are. I like watching people change and grow into themselves. I like how cuddly and adorable my boyfriend is. I love babies. I love the kids I work with. I like playing stupid games with them and cooking them spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 05:09 AM
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Well of course no one is going to say "I think too thin is the ideal". If you're calling it too thin, its already a negative. But everyone has a different idea of what "too thin" is. And I'm still not seeing the relevance to my original comment. in terms of attractiveness to men Women are also part of society though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 12:57 AM
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I wasn't talking about your individual preference, I was discussing societal trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/14 12:39 AM
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Yeah, I think health and beauty standards aligning is usually happenstance. Being healthy is an added bonus to becoming attractive for most people, ime, not the other way around. I was just watching an episode of House the other day where a fitness nut found out she had a disease that required a diet high in carbs and sugar to maintain. She refused the treatment because she wanted to stay "fit", something ostensibly about being healthy but, in her case, it became obvious that physical appearance…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 05:43 PM
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Thin is a modern ideal for white women and not at all a historical ideal. Also, we haven't been around for one million years, let alone millions. You mean thousands, I guess? Anyway, you've got it a bit backwards, we place value on thinness, not curviness, because we live in a culture of excess: when food was scarce, larger women were seen as attractive because it was a sign that they were rich and pampered enough to not have to work in the field and eat what they want. Now that field work is un…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 04:12 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 12:57 AM
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There certainly are women like that. But those women are not likely the majority, so you're going to make a lot of mistakes if you assume that anyone who doesn't react with disgust to the idea of sex with a black person must have had sex with a black person. Also, not being attracted to someone or some group of people doesn't mean you think the idea of sex with them is repulsive. I'm not attracted to guys with dyed hair, for example, but if you asked if I had sex with one I wouldn't say firmly "…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 12:55 AM
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Unless she answers the question with a firm "no, that's disgusting" you really don't need to think too hard about what the truth really is. I've never had sex with a black guy but I 100% would not respond "no, that's disgusting" if asked because...it's not disgusting. I'm pretty sure most modern women wouldn't respond that way, so you must think that they've all secretly had sex with black guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 12:24 AM
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Lol, thanks =]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:56 PM
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Meaning? Coke and Pepsi are still soft drinks. If you're all into tall, dark, and handsome, it doesn't matter if one is an artist and the other's a jock; you both still want the tall, the dark, and the handsome. Well, we're all into guys. That's about it. None of us want tall, dark, and handsome. You don't find much other then shades of pale in MD suburbs or central PA. My friend likes tall, but lanky and feminine. I've got a friend who loves jewish looking guys with glasses(she's not jewish, id…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 05:29 PM
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They're laughed at They're frequently laughed at by RPers. I know there's MRA flair on TRP, but I've heard RPers jeer at MRA's and call them "reverse feminists" as a way to put them down. Many RPers don't want society to change, TRP's introduction talks about how changing society is unnecessary, society is fine, they just have to change themselves. And yet I still see RPers who blame and complain about society. It's possible, though, that the users who complain are completely different than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 12:42 AM
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The same arguments you can use to invalidate the misogyny circle jerk in TRP can be used to invalidate the abolishon of slavery, or giving women the vote. No, I clearly said that wanting to change society can be a positive thing. But that's not the same as blaming society. The same arguments you can use to invalidate the misogyny circle jerk in TRP can be used to invalidate the abolishon of slavery, or giving women the vote. The difference is one is an angry circle jerk and the other is an effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 06:13 AM
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I think it's entirely reasonable Saying it's reasonable to feel angry at society and saying that it's helpful to try to blame society for your problems are two different things. It's reasonable, it's understandable, and I get it. But hanging on to that anger is not going to help you. The goal of therapy is to relinquish old feelings of anger and blame, not hold on to them. And accepting responsibility for your role is part of moving forward. You make it sound as if every person is supremely self…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 03:51 AM
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A lot of this will sound like I'm throwing it back in your face; that's not what I mean to do. Just asking questions :) No worries, that's what a debate sub is for =] Can you give an example, or rationale as to why the blame isn't actually not the "patient's" fault? Pointing fingers gets you nowhere pleasant, whether it's at yourself or other people. In general, I think assigning blame is unhelpful. The biggest thing that bothers me though is the whole, "look how society lied and made me into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 05:55 AM
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I think this has to do with the stability of the person and the relationship, and what kind of people they are and not gender at all. I think the reason more women stay is because women tend to fall into care-taking roles. In any case, I had some hesitation thinking about this. It's a difficult situation and I'm emotionally fragile, I'm not sure I'd be the best person to be his support. But I would try my best, I think, because I find myself unable to seriously consider leaving him. And as painf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 04:34 AM
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To me, it's like an unstable person trying to counsel an equally unstable person: the general idea might be there but the execution is all wrong and leads to poor conclusions. I disagree with a good portion of the advice on TRP. There's also a high level bashing/excessive criticism of outsiders and blame shifting that doesn't promote a positive attitude or a healthy sense of self. It's exclusive and requires that you agree with their doctrine in order to get support. It's based on the idea that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 10:16 PM
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Many of the men on the sub find that they have few outlets for their emotions and that they are met with derision when they express them irl. TRP gives them a place to vent; a place where anger, hurt, desperation, and despair are accepted and even expected. Having a way to express your emotions in a non-judgmental environment is very therapeutic. Also, while TRP accepts that these negative emotions are natural, they try to coach users through them. Self-improvement is a large part of TRP, they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 05:21 PM
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While it may be true that most people know what's making them unhappy, I don't think most people know how to get past it. They need to be taught certain skills before they can be successful. For example, a lot of the kids throw temper tantrums because they can't regulate their anger on their own and throwing a fit releases the tension in them. They know it's causing problems and alienating them, but they don't know how to stop it, they don't know how to control their anger. I can teach them to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 02:53 PM
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Other people's collective opinion. I agree, but I think those are gained mostly in childhood and by adulthood we've generally made up our minds. Not that we can't be persuaded, but it's more difficult. what kind of "counselor"? I work at a therapeutic after school program for adolescents with behavioral issues. I only work with them in group therapy, I'm not qualified to do one-on-one and don't really plan to be. It's not so much talk therapy as it is skills based, mostly CBT. I'm in my early 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:06 AM
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The idea of SMV, of dating leagues, was created by someone who wanted to date a trophy as opposed to a life partner who they connect with and can build a happy life with. A lot more goes into a romantic relationship than looks, money, and hobbies. And when it comes down to it, you think you're better than these "losers" and it irritates you that other people might not think you're better than them. Maybe you need to stop calling them losers and look into why you are losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 04:27 PM
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You WILL like yourself and have a sense of self worth, after you are secure in your knowledge that you are liked to whatever proportion you desire to be liked. I suppose. Some people are perfectly happy with a very low bar, some people are not happy with less than perfection. So the broken meter could explain the confident idiots and the insecure genuises. I don't agree, I still think we filter outside opinions based our own preconceived notions about ourselves, but it sort of makes sense. Of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:56 AM
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Sorry that took a lot of talking past each other to get to the point, I seem to be doing that a lot lately...Anyway, women in the first world. My understandding and opinion on the issues faced by both genders in the western world is still expanding and changing, so I'm not sure I can give you a solid opinion. I spend a lot of time mostly lurking on /r/femradebates trying to flesh out my views and I'm still unsure. I'd like to have all the facts before I form an opinion but I doubt I'll be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:49 PM
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Ok I am understanding your point much better now. You're talking about how people should create their sense of self, not necessarily how they do or can. Which makes sense in the context of my original comment, but for some reason I was interpreting it a little differently. I actually agree with you more than I originally thought, I've made some posts on here before about how changing yourself to suit other people is often viewed as a negative in our individualistic culture when it really shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:28 PM
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You and I are basically agreeing here and yet you're still adament that you're making a different point. I don't know why. A statement about much of the world requireslooking at the world as a whole and not merely looking at the first world. Similarly, saying much of the first world would mean every first world country needs to be considered, not merely America. The "much of" does of course mean that the statement is not all encompassing, but "the world" means that the entire world is being cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:02 PM
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If I think I'm the nicest person you can meet, and I spend my time torturing animals and throwing puppies off bridges, what I think of myself no longer matters. Sorry, I didn't clarify in my original statement: what you think of yourself matters the most to you. In your example, it doesn't matter to other people, they won't believe you. But you still get to be a happy asshole. Believing a pleasant lie isn't any less comforting than believing a pleasant truth. Furthermore, people are malaeble Ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:24 PM
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But the comment they responded to made specific effort to include the entire world and not focus on the first world. So it makes no sense to respond by talking about the first world exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:22 PM
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Women are treated unfairly in much of the world then that sentence would be correct and your example of girl getting stoned for education would be, let me borrow your favourite term, relevant. There's no need to rephrase, that was the statement. You go on to agree that that was the statement we have both been discussing this whole time. So...what are we even arguing about here? That I bolded in a way you disagree with? I did not talk about any harmful stereotype that has been proven untrue. Yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:20 PM
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The post that you responded to said the world. You can talk my ear off about how feminism focuses on the first world all you want, but the comment specifically made an effort not to do that. So it's irrelevant. You specifically said : Get rid of all of them. In response to you talking about harmful stereotypes that have been proven untrue. In context, that statement means, "get rid of all the harmful stereotypes that have been proven untrue". So yes, talking about whether stereotypes are true or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:42 PM
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You can't love yourself or feel worthy if you're not actually worth much, nor does loving yourself or thinking yourself worthy matter if you're the only person who does. How do you reconcile that with reality? Everyone is completely self aware? You certainly can believe things about yourself that aren't true, self delusion is a powerful thing. And your opinion of yourself matters the most because it's the one you believe. Everyone else's opinion of you, you accept or reject based on your own pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 07:01 AM
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A metaphor for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:50 AM
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I'm a stereotype. I'm a woman in social work who is going to be a teacher in a year. My boyfriend is comp sci. I have a female friend in PR, another in sales, her boyfriend is comp sci, my sister is in accounting, and my brother is studying psychology. I do my job because I adore children. I work with adolescents now and plan to teach high school when I transition to teaching, so it's my preferred age group. They're old enough to really have a conversation with but young enough to guide and help…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 06:36 AM
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A 500lbs couch potato with no job can love him or herself all they want...it doesnt' mean they have any worth, socially, sexually, acedemically, or otherwise. Sure, but my point is more about internal happiness. So what I'm saying is that person will be happy and feel worthy. But OP, who probably contributes to society and has loved ones who consider her worthy is unhappy and doubts her worth because she is relying solely on other people to validate her. Regardless of whether or not you are obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:46 AM
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You're making a bunch of leaps and responding to things that have not been said. The statement you responded to was: I think women are treated unfairly in much of the world, and need advocacy. I don't know why you think world==first world. Usually, stereotypes only emerge when an individual acknowledges them in an empirical observation. You said: What if every group has a stereotype against them, how do you measure what stereotype (if proven to be untrue) is worse and what stereotype is better? …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:38 AM
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It doesn't need to, though. Approval comes from within. Looking to sexual/romantic partners to assure you of your worth is draining and ultimately unsatisfactory--nothing will really make you feel worthy until you believe you're inherently worthy. That's evidenced in your OP--even though your SO and the men in your life think you are good and beautiful and worthy, it still isn't enough, because external love and approval is a poor substitute for internal love and approval. I know it's probably u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 01:23 AM
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Solipsism. And yes, I'm a woman. But seriously, since childhood I remember thinking that I was the only real person, that nobody else had thoughts or feelings but me. I was religious back then and used to think I was God's chosen one or something. In college I found out about the philosophical idea of solipsism and really connected with it. To me, life is a video game--everyone else is a character already written into the program, but I have the controller and can move my character however I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:52 PM
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How about the girl who got stoned to death for trying to go to school and get a basic education? Denying girls education is a pretty big political/legal inequality or sometimes only a social one. We know that there is no evidence to support the fact that girls shouldn't go to school, because girls in the first world receive education and excel at it. I'd say it's definitely harmful to deny someone the right to learn. What if every group has a stereotype against them, how do you measure what ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:36 PM
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They use guns instead of pills. Higher chance of death, less window of opportunity to be saved. Women are also more likely to reach out for help than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:12 AM
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It's pretty damn important to me in the context of a relationship. When I'm single, I can go for years without it and be fine. Or at least I could before I ever had sex, if I was single tomorrow, now that I'm sexually experienced, years of sexlessness might be pretty upsetting. I don't know. But it's important to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:51 AM
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Nowhere did I say "fuck the baby boomers" or anything of the sort. All I said was that boomers don't understand how difficult it is to go to college and get a job for millennials and assume they're all just lazy. I'm not denying people they're right to say "kids these days!" either, but every generation complains about the next. It's just a cliche at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 12:22 AM
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I agree with the definitions but I'll be honest, I wouldn't want a relationship with almost any woman that does any of the above. You don't want a woman who has friends? FWB also seems pretty innocent, but it's not for everyone, and if you don't want to get married I guess you don't want a wife. But presumably you want friendship in your relationship and want your SO to have a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 05:44 PM
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May not be true of your grandfather's generation, but baby boomers did have it so well that they can't grasp financial difficulty and call our generation a bunch of lazy whiners. Anyone older than that is just telling stories of how they had to walk uphill both ways to school and nobody wants to hear them complain about how we complain too much either. Truth is, no generation alive today in America really had it all that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 04:22 PM
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I don't. As someone with mental illness, this whole "I'll be lost/dead without you" nonsense is something I promised to never let into my relationship. My SO knows he can safely leave at any time, I have other support systems in place. That's what therapy is for, it is not what SO's are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 12:49 AM
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I'm going to tell my boyfriend that I would never have dated him when I was 12. He'll be crushed and cry forever. Except, according to my diaries, that wouldn't be true. And I wanted to weep because I honestly feel like she might be lost without me due to her mental illnesses and lack of self control. Check her into a hospital or get her a therapist and then get over it. It's not anyone's job to care for their partners illness, mental or otherwise. You're not her knight in shining armor, she got…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 12:38 AM
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I must be missing my woman card. I have no pool of suitors and want sex more than the only man whose sex drive I have knowledge of(or he's missing his man card? or both?). So I'd do what I do now. I put this on another thread that basically asked the same thing: I'm pretty sure it would be literally the same. I'd awkwardly flirt sometimes in the hopes that maybe they flirt back. Spend most of my life single because I'm an awkward loser. Finally find someone cool and change large parts of my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 05:37 PM
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If it's legal, you do you. Doesn't mean I won't think it's weird and unsettling though. My opinion does not change based on gender. I find cougars weird and unsettling as well. If you're an adult dating someone in high school there's almost definitely a huge disparity in lifestyle and experience and maturity levels. And college kids are known for their poor decision making and immaturity, whereas adults are not(generally). It's something to keep in mind, but again, if it's legal you have every r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 01:36 AM
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But the conversation was had long ago. The relationship is not going beyond friends. OP even said these women were seeing other men. And regardless, if you're trying to push for exclusivity, you don't put your kids in the middle of your passive aggressive hint dropping. I think you should bring them in only after exclusivity has been promised and you have been dating long enough to feel like he'll stick around for a while. Not use them as some kind of tool in your dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 05:02 PM
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Neither party is really at fault, No, she definitely is. You don't take someone to meet your children unless you are sure and serious about them. It's unfair to the children otherwise. People don't think that a man accepting the invite means he really wants to marry her and provide for her children. In this situation, I'm inclined to believe people just don't think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 04:48 PM
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She should be sure of the guy before she lets him meet the kids, otherwise it's setting up the kids for disappointment. Kids get attached. She certainly should not be taking a guy who has said outright he is not interested in anything serious to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 04:25 PM
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Since, it's typical for a woman to have misfires, or have sex with someone that may ejaculate too quickly, or that's just plain old unpleasurable sex. So you'd rather she had bad sex where she didn't orgasm than oral sex where she didn't orgasm? I don't follow. This means she got all these guys hot and heavy and just gave them a blowjob. I know at least a couple of guys who prefer blow jobs to sex...but either way, would you think it's bullshit if she made out with several guys and never had sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 07:39 AM
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Frankly I'd like rather go out with a lady that has had sex with 20 guys, rather than one that has sex with 4 guys but sucked off 20. That's a curious view. Can you expand on that? I just don't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 06:56 AM
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Why are these women introducing a man they are casually seeing to their kids is the better question. That's just not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 06:52 AM
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That's a big no thank you for me. My SO and I are both prone to jealousy, we would go up in flames within a month. I'm mostly blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 01:13 AM
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She said no about 5 times and moved my hands away from her pussy. Why did she have to tell you 5 times? Sure, it worked out in the end for you, but it's pretty rude to ignore people saying "no" to you. She's also black. What does this have to do with anything? I kept waiting for you to make this relevant at some point and then you never did. Why mention it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 08:06 PM
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Interesting. If I marry my SO in my ideal timeline, I would have an 11% divorce risk. Not too shabby. Although I don't understand why my divorce risk goes up if I think it's ok for other women to be single parents, while I don't think it's ok for me and take steps to avoid it. Additionally, I think that divorce is sometimes a good solution for others, but I wouldn't consider it for my own marriage barring extreme circumstances. I will pick someone who I would be able to work things out, but if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 01:46 AM
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Well, I feel very strongly that marriage should be forever and I'm used to people thinking of marriage as(hopefully at least) a permanent thing. For me, personally, I want to commit to forever. I didn't realize/think of the possibility that not everyone promises to stay together forever, so I retract my original statement. It's not necessarily a lie. Still, I think that if your marriage is based on a child and not on a real desire to wed your partner, your wedding will ring false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 05:15 PM
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I wonder exactly how much of an accident the pregnancy was? Well she clearly wasn't getting pregnant to trap him into marriage. I'm not sure what you're insinuating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 03:19 PM
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What, like that you have to marry them in order to be moral? No, not in this day and age. There was a time when that was the respectable thing to do, because being an unmarried pregnant woman got you shunned and stuff, but that doesn't happen anymore. And while child support and custody laws are imperfect, they do make it possible for parents to never marry and still contribute to raising the child together. In fact, I think that if you wouldn't marry the other person without the pressure of a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 03:15 PM
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This is one woman's account of love and I do not speak for all women. It should also be noted that I am an outlier(mental illness), so I probably don't even speak for most women: I don't know what love even is. I have a frustrating belief that I both love people way more than they are capable of loving me and also that I* am completely incapable of loving anyone properly because I don't feel empathy or really care about others the way you're supposed to. Often I love like an impassioned crazy pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 05:20 AM
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I don't think there's any evidence women do this more than men. My boyfriend doesn't want to marry me because I'm depressed and has often been on the verge of leaving me do to my personal struggles. I'm sticking with him through his depression and his complete apathy for me and everything. And I don't even believe I'm capable of love. God knows how women who actually have empathy and shit are capable of loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 05:10 AM
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The article is not saying that rape is less common than we thought. It is saying that the blame for rape lies with the rapist, not the culture. But there's still the same amount of rape being perpetrated, according to RAINN.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:18 PM
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If I'm not interested in them romantically, I literally couldn't care less about their sex life. I'd probably think it was weird if they were constantly talking about it or bragging about it, but the number itself wouldn't matter. I want to date men with a low partner count. Men who have a lot of casual sex are going to have a fundamentally different view of sex than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:54 PM
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People are dumb. Not just women, but people in general are fantastically prone to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:05 PM
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That's why I take Prilosec.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:02 PM
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I'm fairly certain these women aren't feminists. They don't hold the same ideals that the western women I assume you're referring to when you say "women" do. I don't think a strike like this would go over well in America because it's dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 04:55 PM
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I thought 8 was the most insane one, you think it's uncontroversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 04:53 PM
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If it's against the rules, report it. Message the mods if it's not taken care of, insults are not allowed. If it's not against the rules, then deal with the user directly. Everyone gets attitude in this sub, that's the nature of a debate sub with sensitive, personal topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 04:40 PM
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This is at least the fourth time I've seen you complain about how all BP women are out to get you for your oh-so-controversial views. Maybe you are being harassed in PM's or other subs, but I don't see it happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 04:03 AM
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I've read parts of the Feminine Mystique. I maybe vaguely knew she founded an organization, but not which or anything about it. Sorry Betty =\
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:37 AM
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Is it really that big? Honestly, none of the feminists I know or talk to irl talk about NOW at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:27 AM
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I am American, I just mostly dealt with academia and feminist theory and NOW never came up. I'm also not a super serious dedicated feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:21 AM
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Whose money?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:19 AM
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I don't know much about NOW, I literally never heard about it until I started redditing. Um, I did a search on their site for consent and all that came up was stuff about abortion and "informed consent". The teach men not to rape thing is more grassroots and not really pinned to an organization or even a particular feminist group as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:13 AM
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I am a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:46 AM
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You do realize that my comment was talking about a girl who needed to be taught consent, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:42 AM
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It's an ingrained reaction, for me, to be put off by significant age gaps. My SO's roommate is dating a woman who has a kid the same age as him. I think it's weird as fuck. I really try not to judge and would never say anything, but honestly and privately, I think it's weird as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:07 AM
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I woke up to her rubbing me and starting to climb on top and she got pissed when I rejected her. And this is why we need to teach teenagers about consent. That's not ok. You don't start touching someone sexually when they're sleeping unless that's been established as acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:02 AM
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I had this whole long introspective post that I typed out, but I'm not sure if that's actually what you're looking for. What it essentially boils down to is this: at 18 I met and started seeing an abusive man. He was a diagnosed narcissist, so I guess Dark Triad. We had a weird, twisted relationship but I never had sex with him because we weren't exclusive and I refused to have sex with someone outside an exclusive relationship. At 20 I met my SO, a sweet, awkward, and insecure dude who was real…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 01:51 AM
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A lot of this is how I feel too. I also have a personality disorder, one that is widely known on the internet as "super crazy bitch you should run far, far away from" disorder. I feel like a fucked up person, that I must be fucked up because no one is interested in me as a person. My own mother wants me to be different. Therapy and drugs have been largely unhelpful for me, but it doesn't stop her trying to shove them at me in the hopes that it will turn into the daughter she was expecting. And i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:39 PM
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I'm a 22 year old woman from northern MD currently living in central PA. College graduate. I work with at-risk adolescents. I have little dating experience outside my current relationship. I could not for the life of me get a boy to touch me until college, when I lost a lot of weight, got contacts, lost the braces, and fixed my hair. Then I could get guys willing to hook up with me but no one willing to date me. Because I suck as a person. My position is we should treat people like people. Not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure it would be literally the same. I'd awkwardly flirt sometimes in the hopes that maybe they flirt back. Spend most of my life single because I'm an awkward loser. Finally find someone cool and change large parts of my personality in order to suit her. Do lots of things for her, buy her what she wants, take an interest in her hobbies. Ruin everything by being depressed and needy. Rinse and repeat. I don't see why this would be any more or less successful as a man than it is as a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:22 PM
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I met him through my best friend in college. Her boyfriend was friends with mine when they were in high school. She took me to meet her boyfriend and told him to invite my SO along because she thought we would have fun together. We flirted, I wanted to hook up with him, but he got too drunk and puked on the porch so I went to sleep. About a month later he and I were at another small gathering and this time we did hook up. We exchanged numbers and also, for reasons I don't entirely remember, driv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:14 AM
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shrug Most people in my life are insecure, so it's not seen as a bad thing in my social circles/family. Other than the fact that we want each other to be happier, of course. I actually find confident people a bit alarming and intimidating, it just makes me a bit uncomfortable when people like themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 11:55 PM
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Are you personally offended by it? If so, why not come out and say that you feel bullied?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:02 AM
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Like I said, I am insecure, not confident, and don't have my shit together most of the time. So I'm with someone who's similar to me in that way and it doesn't bother me at all, it's actually irksome to hear them described as inherently negative traits. I don't think it's bad to be insecure, that was always one of those things that irritated me: not only do you not think your good enough, but the fact that you don't think you're good enough makes you not good enough. It's sad that he doesn't lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 11:57 PM
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If you gave me an honest definition of what you think alpha is, I would have a better picture. Someone who is confident and secure. A leader. Has his life all organized. In shape, in control. Doesn't betray weakness or emotion. Maintains "frame". Doesn't ever give more than he gets. Strong sense of self worth. Then there's TRP's idea of "game". Dread game. The 2/3 rule. Dark Triad. The whole idea of "frame" in the first place. My SO isn't like that. He's insecure, introverted, and a bit of a laz…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:13 PM
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I don't think the average 18 year old is capable of being responsible for themselves, man or woman. Yes that's what the law says and I'm not trying to change the law. I just believe that 18 year olds are most likely immature, irresponsible, incapable of properly thinking through decisions, and easy to take advantage of. Double that when they're still in high school. Even if they're legal, high school students have no experience with the real world, they probably don't even do their own laundry. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:21 PM
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There are three main reasons I wouldn't call myself RP. First, I don't believe in the whole submissive Captain-First Mate stuff. I'm usually the one that pushes my SO and I forward and we have equal weight in decisions. Staying in shape, cooking and cleaning, being sweet, and being feminine are all things I like/try to do. Being submissive is a big no thank you for me. And a big part of TRP/RPW. Second, RPW and TRP are very different and I don't care for many of the strategies discussed on TRP n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:44 PM
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I don't agree with everything Lynn said, but I don't disagree with everything either. I hardly think that makes me a part of a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:18 PM
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I thought one of the main reasons people are on this subreddit are to look into why people are making the choices they do in that regard. Is it? That's not why I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:30 AM
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No, I wouldn't argue it's mainstream. But I also don't think nobody's talking about it. As I said, it's talked about a lot in the field, at least where I studied to be a teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:34 AM
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I'm a leftist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:33 AM
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Does saying that I don't think people should be forced into gender roles mean that I think that there's no such thing as sexual strategy? That's not what I'm saying. I just think that men and women should be allowed and encouraged to pursue whatever life goals they wish, regardless of genitals. I'm also mostly against the sexual strategy that TRP espouses, which is why I'm here, to debate it's worth. The reason I'm purple pill(or was until I changed my flair just now), instead of blue is because…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:31 AM
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Ok, so significantly larger than I thought. I thought it was 51-49(so actually 2%). Still, it's a far cry from 80% vs. 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 05:36 PM
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Who's "they"? /u/Lynn1975?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 04:24 PM
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Why is no one asking why there aren't more male elementary teachers or male nurses? Are women just inherently better teachers? People do talk about that though. Educators frequently lament the lack of male participation, try to get men involved, and get excited about a good male role model entering the classroom. It's definitely talked about within the field. And I've heard encouragement for men to take up careers like nursing, as well. There was a thread on /r/AskWomen a while back from a male …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 04:12 PM
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His LBGT population? Can't a rich white man be queer? Sorry, I'm nitpicky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 03:58 PM
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On the other hand, women make up a disproportionate majority of the voters, suggesting that they're in significant power. Isn't it a 1% difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 03:54 PM
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I was responding to spongegloss specifically saying it was a need like food or shelter though. She clarified later, but that's where my statement came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 09:25 PM
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I guess I think it's largely irrelevant and will sort itself out. It's not something I spend a lot of time thinking about. I don't think most people will neglect their children, most parents will work something out and make compromises if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 05:42 PM
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Where can you live without shelter? In most places you will die in the elements. Sex may be a need in the context of a relationship, but relationships are not as strong of a need as food/shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 02:32 PM
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I wouldn't presume to know what other women want to do, or why. I want to be a SAHM because I adore children and I want to raise my own and love and nurture them. I currently work with adolescents and am going back to school soon to be a teacher, because working with young people and shaping their lives just appeals to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 04:55 AM
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I agree that child-rearing and homemaking is valuable. It's what I want to do eventually, full time if it's affordable, and I think it's an important(and somewhat daunting) job. I just don't think that all women should have do it, or that men should feel ashamed to do it. I think people should do what they want, not what their gender roles say they should want(or what other people say they should want).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 01:59 AM
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Yeah, I'd never heard of anyone thinking like that before either. Idk, he's just a little odd sometimes xP Possibly an OCD thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:48 AM
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It's funny you mention gross, there are times when he considers sex and kissing really gross. He gets stuck in his head a lot and thinks too much about how sharing fluids is really repulsive and then can't get over that. I don't think it's painful for him, just emotionally draining and half the time he's already emotionally drained. it's far preferable to communicate about these things than just roll over and be like "not tonight." That's not healthy. Agreed. Communication is always better in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:39 AM
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Sex is a need just like food or shelter No, they're not on the same level. You can live without sex, you can't live without food or shelter. If you're homeless and starving, the next time you'll get laid is probably the last thing on your mind, because food is way more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:05 AM
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Withholding sort of implies that it's purposeful and I think--although I have no idea--that this is often not the case. I think the lower libido partner probably just doesn't want sex, not that they think "if I don't have sex with my partner I can manipulate them into doing stuff for sex". I'm the higher libido partner in my relationship by far. My boyfriend would be happy to have sex maybe once a month, I'd be happy to have it every day. It's frustrating and hurts my ego, but I don't think he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:56 PM
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It's mostly the AWALT stuff that irks me, because I'm not about that life. And they can be pretty cruel to "beta" men. I like "beta" men, and I think that's pretty rude. In any case, I find it interesting to debate and see other people's perspectives. So even if I can respect both sides, I still want to carry on debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 04:42 PM
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Next time I meet a completely useless man I will call him this...in my head because confrontation and manners and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 04:32 PM
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I know that's a comedy bit and should be taken with a grain of salt, but that's pretty unfair. In the context of a sexual relationship, it absolutely makes sense to clarify how you would sexually satisfy your partner after one of your sexual tools is taken away. If you don't sexually satisfy your sexual partner the relationship obviously must change. You could be the best woman in every single way, but if you suddenly stop having any sexual contact it will probably be the end of your romantic re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 04:22 PM
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I guess you could argue these girls could have been awkward in their youth and then blossomed. Yeah, that was me. I was(am) super shy, socially awkward, and depressed. And I used to be overweight with braces and glasses, before I grew into the fairly conventionally attractive swan I am today. I am nerdy, but I have more feminine nerd interests(mainly books). I took up Minecraft and EVE because my boyfriend really wanted me to, so I literally started gaming for male attention, yes. But I never cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 01:18 AM
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Well you did say earlier that having sex with women alone made you parallel to men, MissPearl never mentioned whether she looked for masculine or feminine women. So your lesbian friends are exclusively looking for feminine women and are also masculine women themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 01:02 AM
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I view my friends who are lesbians like my guy friends, and I view their girlfriends the same way I view regular women. That doesn't align with your statement that women who have sex with women are "doing the same thing men do" because the girlfriends of your lesbian friends are, in fact, having sex with women. So how come they get viewed as regular women if being a lesbian changes so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:43 AM
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Eh, I'm guessing a lot of special snowflake women who come on there, so I'm not entirely opposed to the message. Yeah, maybe they're just clarifying their gender but I imagine that a lot of times they are saying "I'm not like those other girls! I'm a girl whose ok with TRP!!!" But I don't frequent the sub often enough to really know which is more common. The phrasing is obviously unnecessarily rude, but that's just how TRP operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:33 AM
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It's used often in the mental health field. Where are you getting your definition from? Suicidality ranges from thoughts of suicide, to suicidal actions(parasuicides and other suicidal gestures), to full attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 08:23 PM
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As soon as you start using murderish and suicidish when people run around with a knife. FTR, suicidality is a word that many people use to describes borderline suicide behavior and thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 07:32 PM
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You could get lucky and find one that is a light weight. What does this mean? Is it lucky because then you have to spend less effort tricking her into drinking more than you because she'll be drunk enough after 1-2 drinks? Or is it lucky because after 3 drinks she'll be wasted? The second is more concerning, but I'm going to operate off the assumption that it's the first because it comes right after the sentence saying that I assume means "don't get her too drunk". Well, to me this is nothing ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 07:21 PM
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And before anyone gives me shit, I'm a woman We can't give women shit? Why does your gender matter? I don't disagree with most of your post, but this addendum baffles me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:23 AM
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I never claimed that rape culture was the only important one You pretty much literally did: Sure, but why would any of them be as relevant as rape culture would be if it existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:18 AM
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There are organizations devoted to reducing suicide. Does that mean we have a suicide culture? I think you might actually be able to make a better argument for an overarching suicide culture than an overarching rape culture. Suicide is pretty normalized and help for mental illness is stigmatized. And suicide victims are constantly victim blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:13 AM
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Yes. It's similar to when people talk about a test "raping them", which I find distasteful to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:06 AM
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Both. There are pockets of culture that attempt to excuse or diminish the severity or even normalize rape and sexual assault(like Stuebenville, prison, someone mentioned the military). There's a cultural acceptance of female-on-male rape as "not rape". There are cultures in which having sex with pre-pubescents is normalized(arguably a rape culture). But on the whole, do the average citizens of America believe that rape is normal, acceptable, or excusable? No, no I don't believe they do. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:05 AM
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An interesting rhetorical analysis for sure, but I'm not convinced people put that much thought into the use of terms like "man" and "woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 04:59 PM
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To each their own. You might not want a relationship with a submissive woman, but that doesn't make it inherently boring or wrong. I can't speak to why submissiveness is desirable to RPers because I'm not RP, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting a submissive partner. I think saying it's unnatural for women to not be submissive is a bit much, but if you want a submissive woman go find one. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 03:32 PM
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but when I hear women say they want a good man, they are saying man and not partner or someone special. Probably because they're heterosexual and are looking for a male romantic partner? I don't see how you think that implies they want a "manly man".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 03:28 PM
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Yeah, I haven't posted on SRS and I don't go around trolling any subs, but I don't think they have me mixed up with someone else. There was one thread on /r/MensRights in which ETBB told me they were tagging me as a troll and downvoting me on site because I disagreed with them(I don't remember the thread, but I don't believe I said anything terrible). They seem to have a more liberal idea of what "troll" means than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 03:02 AM
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he's obviously going to commit with the girl with the lower number than the six a year girl. Obviously though? Can you not conceive of a man who just doesn't give two fucks about partner count? Can you not imagine someone experiencing the world differently from you? I believe they call that "solipsism".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 02:17 AM
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For what possible reason would one bother or risk making that assessment of how much he has changed? Touchy-feely love stuff. I live in a large college town, there are literally thousands of people my age around to chose from, but I picked a guy with a history of cheating. Because another person who didn't make those mistakes wouldn't be him, and I love and connect with him. It's not the most practical decision, I suppose, but choosing a romantic partner based solely on practicality misses half …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 04:35 PM
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The only guys who marry slutty girls Your first comment I assumed was just generalization with room for outliers, now I'm not sure. Do you mean literally every guy who would marry a slut secretly judges her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 04:29 PM
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has given more blowjobs than all of womanhood combined. I know you're being facetious, but I just have to point out that that's literally impossible, since she herself would be part of womankind. And also that womankind is probably the word you're looking for, not womanhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 04:37 AM
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Omega is saying "no, it's not wrong to let a person's history affect your interest". And also that some people do want to LTR sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 04:35 AM
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I think the new ones are far superior, but that could be because I watched them first. And also because I adore Anakin and liked Padme and Obi Wan but I just could not stand/relate to Luke, Leia, or Han.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 03:16 AM
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I like to be treated with tenderness! Soft, gentle caresses and kisses are a must. When I'm upset, I like him to use a soft, soothing tone of voice. I like physical softness in men as well(not muscular, somewhat chubby). Soft men are my shit. I may be atypical. I have been told on here that the fact that I didn't lose attraction and leave my boyfriend after he cried in front of me made me an outlier, so idk. I like when people are nice to me. I like when they show their emotions and are intimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 02:34 AM
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that you blame men for the inequality Where does /u/radskeleton do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 05:11 PM
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Breast cancer is out of your control. So is depression and suicide, c'mon seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:54 PM
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What? Women aren't killing themselves? I can assure you they are. I've never heard of a campaign specifically for female victims of suicide either, can you point me to it? I couldn't find one in my admittedly brief google search, but if you're interested I did find this for men. And here's an article about an Australian campaign for male suicide issues. And Britain. The last two are a couple years old though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:53 PM
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How? That's like saying it's "on them" when cancer patients die. They have an illness that they died from, that's not "on them".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:47 PM
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Oh god, I'm imagining a world where the government handed every idiot a free gun at 18...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:41 PM
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Ok, well in the video the guy asked a girl if she thought her friend was attracted to her. She responded yes, and he said "so it's a one-sided friendship". And that threw me, because that isn't necessarily the case. It certainly could be, but it's also possible that he had sexual or romantic feelings and valued her friendship. I just think there may be more instances where the one-sided attraction is by the males. In terms of sexual feelings this is probably true. In terms of romantic attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 05:47 AM
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I'm going to preface this by pointing out that I am not RP, or male(my loving partner is not a she), but I hate "be yourself" because no fucking thank you. I'd rather not. My core being sucks and I don't want to be me. And anyway, who I pretend to be is, for all intents and purposes, me. I changed for other people and it's now almost impossible to separate the real me from the carefully constructed facade. It's like when you lie long enough that you start to believe your own lie. So I guess I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 05:27 AM
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What do you mean by just friends? Do you mean have a friendship without it escalating beyond that? Do you mean friends without either party having any sort of attraction or crush? Or friends with one or both parties having feelings but that attraction is not the ulterior motive behind the friendship? I don't have a lot of friends and even less of them are male. But I have one male friend and we are mutually not attracted to each other, strongly. I've had male friends that I had a crush on but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 05:11 AM
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Most of my friends and I were late bloomers. Kissless virgins up to at least college, one of my friends made it out of college without a kiss. She recently got her first boyfriend at the age of 22, so that's good for her. She's a super awesome, friendly, hilarious person who is fun to be around and imo, fairly pretty. But she doesn't have that...sexual/romantic vibe. Nothing about her says "make out with me". I don't know, it's hard to explain, but she came across sort of asexual. And while I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 03:29 AM
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Both depression and, ironically, anti-depressants can do that to guys(and girls).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:14 PM
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Yes, I agree it changes perspective. It humanizes you, for better or for worse as you said. In my experience, it's usually for the better but RPers seem to have the opposite experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:46 PM
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Yup, that's her =]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:38 PM
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Yeah. The woman on the left isn't Felicia Day. Here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:21 PM
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Just fyi, that's not at all the same woman in your before/after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:16 PM
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Seriously, there's not even a potato in it. That's not even cooking, it's just throwing canned stuff in a pot. Amateur hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:25 AM
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I don't think a lot of 80 year olds on their deathbeds post on reddit, so it is very likely that this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 02:37 AM
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Now, considering abortion is legal and contraception ubiquitious and very effective, simply make it legal to fire a woman for getting pregnant, and there would be no rational basis for a company to discriminate based on fear of losing productivity due to pregnancy. It isn't legal to fire someone for getting lung cancer(and taking time off work for treatment) after smoking for years, even though there are plenty of things out there to help you quit smoking and smoking is a choice. It isn't legal …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 02:17 AM
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Do women cry on a weekly basis? I don't think that's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:53 AM
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Do you think that most people lose attraction for their boyfriend or spouse if he needs to be cared for when sick or cries? This idea doesn't align with any of my experiences and I'm curious to see that people think it's the norm. I know that men aren't allowed to be as free with their emotions as women, but ime in intimate relationships people don't run off if their man cries and asks for chicken soup. Maybe if it happened once a week, but not every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:51 AM
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If someone I'm close with asks me how I am I absolutely answer honestly. Really? You never have days when you're upset but don't need or want other people to know? I often just want to keep my feelings to myself and if asked my choice of responses are to lie and say "I'm good" or to say "it's none of your business". The latter is a pretty rude thing to say to a close friend. Also, why is lying to strangers more acceptable than telling the exact same lie to a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:24 AM
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Dude...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:29 AM
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Your experience also does not make me the exception. And for the record I do have feelings I just keep them entirely to myself. Did I indicate that you didn't have feelings? I assumed that you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 10:27 PM
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No you haven't, you've simply doubled down on an argument full of logical leaps with no proof to connect the dots. but it does preclude makeup wearing as only a fetish. In it's relationship to men, it doesn't preclude it being a fetish. I might wear makeup for reasons x, y, and z and the only time I wear it for the opposite sex might still be to serve a fetish. The effect that makeup has is important to discuss when discussing it's purpose. They might be intertwined, but they might not. Showing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 10:22 PM
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Be honest has he ever? Uh...yeah. How would I know he's not afraid to if he never did lol, I thought that was pretty well implied. Probably a total of 7 times over two years, but he has. Nothing in that paragraph is the norm. It is to me. It's how people in my life behave. You're the exception in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:22 PM
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A common trope illustrates this. "What's wrong?" asks a concerned man. "Nothing!" replies an obviously upset woman If I had $10 for every time I said "are you angry?" and my boyfriend snapped out "no, I'm not!" I wouldn't have to donate plasma. It's honestly funny most of the time. People in general aren't honest with the way they feel, it's part of the human experience. I suppose it's more feminine, but white lies know no gender. Think of all the times that someone has asked you how you're doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:19 PM
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I can't imagine not being able to cry in front of an SO. My boyfriend doesn't cry much, but he isn't afraid to cry in front of me. My dad has cried in front of the whole family, my mom included. My best friend is dating a depressed guy who cries in front of her. Ime, I'm not an exception I'm the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 05:59 PM
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It doesn't matter if I think you're right, if you're arguments are weak I'm going to point that out. I think it's a courtesy. Don't you want to strengthen your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 04:20 PM
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That said, if you are really about to imply that makeup has nothing to do with attraction I don't think we're having an honest conversation now. I couldn't have made my opinion more clear so I assume you are deliberately misinterpreting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 10:49 PM
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This post isn't about anti-masculine ideas(as in "be yourself", "be a nice guy", "don't be violent") not anti-male ideas and those two things are different It explicitly is. Did you even read the linked article at all? Or anything other than the title? If not, that explains why you're so confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 06:10 PM
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Does that count as anti-male? Yes, but we're not talking about being anti-male. When TRP calls nice guys "beta fags" I think that's anti-male. But they consider it pro-masculine. Masculinity is a set of character traits. Maleness is what's between your legs. The message is not ONLY anti-masculine. It's not anti-masculine at all! Nothing in it is anti-masculine! The part where you laugh at men who don't fit the masculine ideal is stupid and fucked up, but that's actually part of reinforcing and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 05:25 PM
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You never heard "Boys never ever hit girls." "Boys never be mean to girls." I work with adolescents and they say stuff like this all the time. Just the other day I had to explain that they shouldn't be hitting anyone because one girl said "boys can't hit girls but girls can hit boys". I don't think I grew up with those messages. I'm not a guy, maybe I missed them, but growing up the boys in my class weren't afraid to push us girls around. I know holding the door for everyone was definitely a mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 05:25 PM
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Does that count as anti-male? Yes, but we're not talking about being anti-male. When TRP calls nice guys "beta fags" I think that's anti-male. But they consider it pro-masculine. Masculinity is a set of character traits. Maleness is what's between your legs. The message is not ONLY anti-masculine. It's not anti-masculine at all! Nothing in it is anti-masculine! The part where you laugh at men who don't fit the masculine ideal is stupid and fucked up, but that's actually part of reinforcing and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 05:25 PM
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Well I'm impressed with the irony. Outright denying someone's experience("this simply did not happen"): not gaslighting. Saying your personal experience differs from that described: gaslighting!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 05:04 PM
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That is gaslighting. Bit of a strong term, but maybe. Still isn't at all what the OP was complaining about. The "well DUH" is something completely different than what you said. Also...all your examples are promoting masculine stereotypes. They may be negative masculine stereotypes, but they're still promoting the message that "real men aren't nice guys, real men are tough". Anti-male and anti-masculine are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:59 PM
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In other words, makeup is ubiquitous. That doesn't dispute a claim of fetish...because it doesn't prove that it has anything to do with men at all. And again, school girl lingerie is everywhere, but it's still a fetish. I have yet to hear you refute my claim that a guy might go for a girl who is made up and pass over somebody who is not. This claim doesn't need refuting because it doesn't matter. How does saying a man might chose a girl with make-up over one without mean that make-up's purpose i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:55 PM
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The "well DUH" of the article is "well, duh, you shouldn't have been a nice guy". Kanga is saying the exact opposite, "actually, it's ok to be a nice guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 03:54 AM
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fetish implies abnormal, or a subset of normal sexual desires. Not at all. Getting turned on by a girl in a Britney Spears-esque school girl outfit is a fetish, but it's a very common one. I explained that it was a huge industry, to dispute your claim of fetish. But it being a huge industry does nothing to prove that it is popular because women use it to attract men, merely that it is popular. I have yet to hear you refute my claim that a guy might go for a girl who is made up and pass over some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 03:41 AM
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EDIT: My karma has been dropping since I posted this topic. Seems I might have touched a nerve. Or several. Oh is this another example to add to your list? Whenever they are down voted it is because they have told a rare and painful truth and everyone down voting is angry and bitter. It is not, obviously not, because they are a poor debater.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:46 AM
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Fair enough. I personally don't have the detailed advice you're looking for, I haven't been single in years and I suck at social interaction anyway. Just thought I'd offer that sub as another option people could look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 01:01 AM
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/r/LetsGetLaid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 12:33 AM
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To think that someone is writing about you if they start writing every time you open your mouth is not evidence of being self centered. It's evidence of being perceptive and being able to draw logical conclusions. The thing about that is she was right. It was about her. Maybe he wasn't actually writing about her, but he was focusing his attention on her and it wasn't the least bit self-centered to think that, it was merely the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 07:20 PM
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It's entertaining. I used to post on TBP but I got tired of it. Now I just post here because I like to see how people think and debate and sometimes I learn something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 06:22 PM
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Anyway, do you agree with me? Are my thoughts more blue pill or red pill? Neither. It's more puritanical than anything. Yes, I believe men are women's enemies. That's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 05:24 PM
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But I personally don't think it's anything wrong with being batshit crazy. I tend to enjoy people who don't restrain themselves so much. That's probably because you've never suffered from severe mental illness or spent much time around people with severe and untreated mental illness. There are plenty of things wrong with being batshit crazy. For starters, it's incredibly self destructive. It also hurts the people around me. I'm not talking about quirks or unusual behavior, I am dangerous unrestr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 10:57 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and not be myself, because I suck as a person. That being said, as Dumbledore put it, "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our ability". I have changed myself almost wholly to be what society says I should be rather than the way I was born and I don't regret a single second of it. I didn't choose to be born batshit crazy, but I choose to behave the way I do now. And thus I am the person I behave like. If someone chooses to act like some ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 06:03 PM
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What are you defining a "true narcissist" as? Because I consider a narcissist to be someone with NPD(and fragile ego is one of the main characteristics), but if your defining it a different way that might be our point of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 12:38 AM
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I'm not directing this at the OP, I'm talking about narcissists in general. And I think that's an accurate description. What do you think I got wrong? What is a "true narcissist"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 04:50 PM
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Narcissists' egos must constantly be stroked, they're very fragile. They have an inflated sense of self importance, but an external self-esteem. Instead of getting esteem from within themselves, they rely on others propping them up or putting others down. It's an interesting paradox; they believe they are special, that they deserve special treatment, but can be crushed with a few harsh words.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:48 AM
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Self-aggrandizement is just the standard operating procedure of a narcissist Well covering low self-esteem is also standard operating procedure of a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 03:37 AM
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Again, that's flattering and all, but I still really doubt it. the reason you and your male friends aren't having sex is because you don't want to, not because they don't want to Nonsense. I made advances on a friend before and had them rejected. I'm pretty confident not everyone wants to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:18 AM
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Are you saying that every man who befriends me wants to date me? That's...an ego boost I guess. But I doubt it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 01:45 AM
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I'm 22 and I don't understand TRP any better than 30 year olds. On the other hand, I know /u/danabanana9 is older and has been married for a while and she's very RP. I'm not sure age is really the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 01:38 AM
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Like it or not, the threat of a looming breakup, whether the facts justify it or not, will spin her into a paranoid estrogen-fueled tizzy, and she’ll spend every waking second thinking about you, thinking about the relationship, thinking about how to fix it. Her love for you will blossom under these conditions Paranoid tizzy? Yes. Thinking about him, thinking about how to fix it? Yes. Love blossoming? No. I start treating him and the relationship as a problem to be fixed and it becomes less and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 05:17 PM
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Dude...what are you on about? I mean the regulars here all know /u/fiat_lux_ is not a feminist so you just look like you're going off the rails a bit here...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 06:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure most blue pillers just want you to get help. I don't think anyone wants to hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 06:15 PM
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For the majority of RPers I hope that they learn to get past their anger and resentment, find someone who makes them happy, and change their attitude a bit. I don't want to do anything to them, just debate them and hope they grow, I guess? For a select few, I think they might need some psychiatric help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 06:13 PM
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By "take" I don't mean by force I understand what you mean. You take and she gives. The woman isn't supposed to be an enjoying participant, she's supposed to be doing you a favor. Which leads to all sorts of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 05:33 AM
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That's true, but in this situation it wouldn't really help if the gender role was deconstructed and women pursued as often as men. Because the awkward lonely girls aren't going to have the confidence to ask either. Which, I think, is why awkward people don't just pair off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 03:06 AM
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I'd say they should find all the sad, lonely, never-been-kissed girls and they can all pair up. Social awkwardness happens to girls too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 02:53 AM
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They tell me to be tall Lol. Who are you asking for advice with women that says "be tall"? That's some god awful advice right there. You're either tall or you aren't, you can't just "be tall".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 02:50 AM
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Body temperature vs room temperature, like 30 degrees F Idk, it's not something I noticed so I guess it's not all that important to me. Now I'm going to be conscious about it and try and see if I notice the difference... Shit the warmth is half the feeling for us. I imagine the warmth of a vagina is greater than that of a penis because it's internal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 10:44 PM
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dildos that can be warmed...do they exist? Sure do! They make ones you can warm up or put in the refrigerator if you want them chilled. Although I've honestly never noticed a difference in warmth between my(not microwaved) vibrator and a penis. They're both about room temperature I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 09:40 PM
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In terms of pure mechanics? Definitely. I'm not in love with my sex toys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 09:21 PM
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Lol I'm stealing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 09:17 PM
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I'd love to participate in this, but I'm just not that funny. I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 09:16 PM
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I think you're a little lost...this isn't ask seddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:13 PM
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I was wondering that too...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 01:40 AM
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I'm not having a go at you. This is a debate sub, expect disagreement. If it's termed as an affair, then it was crossing the bounds of a relationship. You don't call it an affair unless it's cheating. Affair, infidelity, cheating, they're all interchangeable. Strictly from what's been worded in the OP, he's advising you cheat on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 05:11 PM
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I hate cheating but strictly from what's been worded in the OP quote I see none of that going on, there is no intention to hide anything or deceit. If they agreed to a monogamous relationship and haven't had a conversation before the affair about opening the relationship, having an affair is cheating. It's breaking the established boundaries of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:49 PM
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This would be a lot more effective if I didn't have a loving mother. During those two weeks I would be at my mom's house crying until I threw up and there's no way she would let me go back to him after that. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend that I didn't have my mom to take care of me. I have a pathological fear of abandonment. Dread game usually works on me, to a certain extent. I would probably go back to him. So let's say I go back. Well what you now have is not a love slave. Inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:34 PM
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shrug Anger, sarcasm, and vitriol don't make your emotional distress any less obvious than crying, imo. Both are conceding that you're hurt, but in a way that's meant to make the people who hurt you uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:20 AM
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I got 13, so on the high end of low. I'm successful at getting mates though. But that test, imo, is some serious nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 03:20 AM
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Well I'm not masculine or a man, so I'd probably stick with the tears. It takes no effort on my part and it ruins the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 10:20 PM
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That's hateful. If I were him I would cry into a bottle of wine. I would cry right in front of them, while they're on their date and they can feel fucking uncomfortable or leave. I would make sure I had a girl that I was fucking in the apartment that night. That's being just as hateful back, imo. Well, not just as bad, several steps less hateful. But I still think it's hateful and I would have more respect for a four year relationship that was leading to marriage then to start dating or fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 09:42 PM
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Delusion is a defining characteristic of narcissism. The extreme ego-centrism stems from the delusion that they are the greatest thing that ever was or will be. And extreme ego-centrism is a defining characteristic of TRP's definition of solipsism. The two(ego-centrism and self delusion) go hand in hand. Also, you're moving the goalposts a bit here. Your original statement was that narcissists weren't delusional, now it's that delusion just isn't the core of narcissism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:51 PM
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I didn't think I was being sassy. It wasn't intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:41 PM
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You said your scores were low, like /u/RobotPartsCorp. Compared to others who have responded, they're high. For example, when /u/RobotPartsCorp referred to their low scores, they meant scores that were all sub 10th percentile. You seemed unaware of what others considered to be a low score, so I thought I'd point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:35 PM
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Narcissists engage in a lot of self deception as well. They have delusions of grandeur and think that everything is and should be all about them. They have a lack of understanding of other points of view. They soothe their fragile egos by making everything someone else's fault and putting others down. Self awareness is decidedly not a characteristic of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:30 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:19 PM
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My scores are low too if it makes you feel better... Your scores are actually high, compared to the rest of the sub. If that makes you feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 06:16 AM
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Narcissism: 1.7 (14th percentile) Machiavellianism: 3.3 (78th percentile) Psychopathy: 1.7 (14th percentile) Pretty much what I expected in terms of narcissism being low and manipulation being high. I did expect to score higher on psychopathy though...I'm a mixture of relieved and confused that this internet quiz thinks I have empathy. I guess all my self centered feelings disqualify me from "shallow emotional response".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 05:05 AM
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Does that matter? No, I was just curious. I'm not trying to make a point, I just never heard people talk like that and I was surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 06:02 PM
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Yes, "fellow white hat". Not just in person, but even on the radio (iirc, on NPR). Really? I didn't think hackers still used those terms. Maybe it's because the people I know in comp sec are still in college, but I've never heard any of them talk like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:44 PM
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There's nothing wrong with that. I don't do open relationships, but that sounds like a respectful and appropriate way to handle one. Who has ever said anything was wrong with that strategy(is it a strategy even? It sounds like just basic treating other people like people stuff)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 06:11 AM
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I'm mostly blue pill, but I do a lot of RPW things in terms of keeping my SO happy. I also have a men's rights streak which isn't technically red or blue pill, but is more aligned with red. But again, I am mostly blue and sometimes consider putting my flair back to blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 06:00 AM
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I would date my boyfriend and we would be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 05:28 PM
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There are more male pedophiles than female. Source? I suppose the chances are very low. How low of a probability would you consider safe regarding someone raping your child? "Very low" sounds about right. I mean do you take your kid out of the house? They could get kidnapped and raped. Do you leave your kid alone with your spouse? You shouldn't, very high probability of rape. Babysitting means you leave your kid alone in the house with a stranger! Even if it's a female stranger, there's a chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 05:23 PM
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I don't know that there are more male pedophiles than female, but regardless, the chances of your male babysitter, who has been vetted by an agency, being a child molester are less than your husband molesting your children. Or if you're male, your wife abusing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 05:00 PM
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I doubt it was a fight with his wife. If she didn't want to do the dishes, they could hire someone. It sounds like he likes doing his own dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:09 PM
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Id say you're incredibly stupid. Why? There's no logical reason to be more cautious of a male babysitter than a woman. What is stupid about allowing a man to babysit your child? The fact that you don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:07 PM
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Everybody has prejudices. I've known that since I was in grade school, it's hardly a big step.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:05 PM
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I was about to say that I wouldn't be bothered, but I was thinking about a teenage boy or a college aged man. I would be ok with them babysitting my child, but I do think I would have reservations about an adult man babysitting my child, more so than an adult woman. I can't even put my finger on why, I just would. I'd also be happier with a young person overall rather than an adult, which also seems silly. You'd think I'd want the person more likely to be responsible(the adult) but I guess adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 05:12 PM
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I don't think so? I guess I used to let TRP get under my skin a lot more than I do now though. Oh, and I used to joke around with my boyfriend about red pill ideas and tease him about being a beta and how I was the alpha. Turns out that made him really uncomfortable and self conscious, which surprised me. So I don't do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 05:03 PM
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I don't know, it is pretty weird. I wouldn't want a statue of a middle age woman sleep walking in her granny panties up in my college either. Also, it falls in the uncanny valley, so I'm not surprised people find it uncomfortable. But I wouldn't go so far as to petition to have it removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 04:50 PM
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I didn't ask for the Teachman study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 04:34 PM
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Lol, no. I am telling people what I actually said, which is that you can and should chose your partner based on your own personal preferences. I have no idea why you think that would require you to shame other people for their personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 04:25 PM
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You do know you get to chose your wife for yourself and no one stops you, right? Unless you live in an arranged marriage culture. But really, the whole point of my post is no, I don't think you should play the "do the math" card with marriage because statistics don't show the whole picture. So I'm not sure how you came away from that thinking I wanted people to rely on stats for their marriage... Also, do you have a link for the Heritage Foundation study itself? The blog links the Teachman study…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 03:50 PM
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That's worded oddly, does that percentage include deaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 05:18 AM
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I adore Phil Dunphy. I guess that makes sense, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 11:18 PM
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We managed before those too. But that just goes to show how many other means of finding relationship advice people have. I don't see why it matters if it is on this specific website or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:35 PM
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In times of stress I too will turn to my boyfriend and ask him to make the decision for me, to just do it so I don't have to think about it anymore. The thing is, though, when he is stressed out he often asks me to do the same for him. Neither of us are particularly fond of decision making and are happy to hand it over to the other person. In times of chaos for both of us, I make the decisions usually. He's wishy washy, he tends to go back and forth between things. I get tired of being jerked ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:49 AM
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Knowing they will always be there: See modern divorce rates. I'm just going to go on a rant about divorce rates briefly. People always bring up divorce rates and say "if I get married then I have a 50% chance of getting divorced" as though it's a game of chance, as though there's nothing you can do to better your odds. That's lazy. Marriage isn't a dice game, you are in control of whether or not it works out to a large extent. Don't just rush into marriage, thoroughly vet your potential partner,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:39 AM
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I don't know, /r/relationships I guess. I think most people are just capable of finding and navigating relationships on their own or with the help of friends and family. After all, we managed for centuries before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 04:52 AM
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Well I'm not the OP. My position was never that all humor is based on grief/fear, just that it plays a big part in comedy. And so I was arguing against this sarcastic "no one thinks sad things are funny" response: Yeah, those fear-based comedians are really tearing it up out there. I hear Mike Bribiglia's going to do a bit about grieving for his dead mother, should be hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 05:31 AM
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Don't try to NACALT me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 05:17 AM
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Self deprecating humor within the first five minutes of Mitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 04:57 AM
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I'm not familiar enough with any of them to know whether they do or do not use troubles/hardship/fear, etc. I'm watching the Mitch Hedberg you linked though. ballsout offensive humour So I'm guessing he touches on subject material that would normally be considered painful and sensitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 04:53 AM
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Name me a famous comedian who doesn't bring troubles and hardship into their act.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 04:06 AM
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If a woman jumps from guy to guy, she is seen as unreliable in a LTR for several reasons. This is what TRP believes, yes. However, the mere fact of women having casual sex does not in any way confirm that TRP's belief about women having casual sex is correct. It just means that yes, they exist. especially if she spends her 20's rising the proverbial "cock carousel," and when mother nature hits in her 30's and wonders where all the good men are. Is this the situation with the women you work with?…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 04:05 AM
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I try to avoid broad statements with "all" or "every" or "never". It is, however, a large part of many of the most successful comedian's acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 01:46 AM
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Obviously he's famous for being a comedian, but his most well known work is Sleepwalk with Me, which is based on a lot of grief and anxiety. In fact, he wrote a book called Sleepwalk With Me & Other Painfully True Stories(emphasis mine). One of the funniest comedy acts I heard was about a guy whose appendix ruptured. And the hospital bill that followed it. Can't remember the comedian, but it was funny as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 12:14 AM
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What an odd example to choose, considering Mike Birbiglia's most famous for talking about the slow disintegration of his 8 year relationship and the anxiety that he faced because of it, which led to a sleep disorder that almost killed him. And it was hilarious. The best comedians have typically been through some shit and find a way to make it funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 11:37 PM
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When I was in school I hung out with nerdy girls, many of whom never kissed a boy until midway through college at least. In my adult life, I work at a program for at risk youth so most of the people I work with are kids. And they all have behavioral or mental health issues, so I don't judge their actions as the norm. My coworkers are almost all involved in monogamous LTRs. The "sluttiest" person in my social circle currently is probably my boyfriend, and he's only had 5 partners at 22. The peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 11:30 PM
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Ok. I've just seen you in the past describe doing things you didn't want to and being in pain and so forth. I understand that it's consensual non-consent, but I sort of assumed that was also the case with Marques de Sade as well, I don't know much about him. So he didn't get consent from these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 03:55 AM
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Isn't that...correct me if I'm horribly wrong, but isn't that what your husband does to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 03:45 AM
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It can happen, yeah. Obviously you can get away with it too, and pretty easily(it has less obvious affects than steroids). But there are plent of companies whose policy is to terminate anyone who does any illegal substances. I know one woman lost her job over Aderall, although to be fair they may have been looking for an excuse to fire her. When I was in high school, kids got expelled all the time for buying or selling prescriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 03:17 AM
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That's because they're essentially cheating, giving themselves an unfair advantage when they're job is a competition. You're also naming public figures, who have much more to lose than the average person, and draw far more criticism. And people who abuse Aderall can find themselves fired from their job or expelled from school, both of which have serious professional and/or financial consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 02:53 AM
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Men like what they like. Well that isn't entirely true. Men like what their culture tells them to like. What people find attractive varies from culture to culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 04:34 PM
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All rights movements have faced harsh opposition, unfortunately. So that's kind of part of catching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 04:25 PM
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Yep, the pressures for body types are very different for men and women and thus men don't fit the stereotypical BDD or eating disorder mindset, which has been defined by women, and fall under the radar. The other thing is that because men are generally more concerned with bulking up then thinning down, the men who are anorexic are ignored and/or assumed to be gay and teased about it. This is one of my pet issues, my brother suffered from anorexia that sent him to the hospital and for years he sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 12:14 AM
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Because the modern world has had this huge successful movement to help address women's issues and push for women's rights. Men's issues and rights have not had an equally successful movement and right now they're playing catch-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 05:56 PM
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I get what you're saying and I do agree that male eating disorders and body image issues aren't given the attention and advocacy they deserve. However, I think your example is somewhat off. If women use illegal substances to further their eating disorder(for example, many abuse Adderall illegally and in more extreme cases, some turn to heroine) they too face legal consequences for their behavior and in addition get help for the underlying eating disorder that fueled this sort of behavior. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 05:53 PM
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What works as a sexual strategy = red pill knowledge. If a girl gets turned on by a non-domineering alpha, I can tone that down, and tone up what turns her on. Wait...so we know red pill strategy works because red pill strategy is just "anything that works" and anything that works is retroactively defined as red pill strategy? That's some circular logic. It's also not true, RP is a very specific set of strategies, not just "whatever works". And while treating people like individuals is a great i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 09:28 PM
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Because I don't agree with the movement and I don't feel like it represents me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 04:39 PM
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I get bored. Debate and gender relations interest me. Then there's the train wreck factor /u/redwhiskeredbubul mentioned. So here I am. Also, I'm not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 08:05 AM
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Are their documentaries about unattractive nice guys winning the hearts of hot girls? It's your foolish line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 04:03 AM
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We also watch movies in which hopeless, weak men turn into super heroes after a spider bite that probably should have killed them. We want movies to give us hope for what we know is impossible or highly unlikely. Movies sell a fantasy. That doesn't mean that most people aren't very aware that it is a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 10:12 PM
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Lol, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:29 PM
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Oh, ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:53 PM
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Dread game, dark triad stuff, and some instances of negging. As well as some advice on there that isn't official but generally meets approval: keeping your SO desperate to please you and having her do all sorts of degrading things for your amusement, controlling your SO's eating habits, physically punishing your SO, treating her like a child, etc. Why should anyone care? You either have empathy and compassion or you don't. I'm not going to be able to teach you to be a caring human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:53 PM
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I'm talking about the thought experiment where the man was tied down and soulcake said that in the scenario he could rape his girlfriend and be raped himself. RPS then wrote a post about how soulcake thought that a man who couldn't speak or move could be a rapist. Soulcake never used the thought experiment to try to pin down RPS's views, it was the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:49 PM
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ow would you advise men to approach and start a conversation, for common meeting places like bars, dance clubs, daytime activities in a social circle, bookstores, etc.? You can say pretty much anything that isn't weird. I hope you have a basic enough set of social skills to know what's weird. The important thing is that you bring yourself to their attention. "Hello, my name is x, how are you doing tonight?" would suffice. What behaviors demonstrate that they are self-assured? Approaching is one.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:46 PM
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I said to follow TRP's advice on self improvement, so either TRP is too abstract or my answer is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:25 PM
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Yeah, even if I met him without security though, I'm pretty sure my chances of sleeping with Ryan Gosling are slim to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:23 PM
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Nobody is denying that attractive people don't generally sleep with unattractive people. It's such a glaringly obvious point that I was surprised that that was the gist of the OP. It's not something TRP discovered, it's common sense. I don't need to study physics to know that what goes up will come down. I don't need to study TRP to know that attractive people will sleep with the most attractive people they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:21 PM
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He was using a thought experiment to describe her views, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:17 PM
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I just told you... Make yourself as attractive as possible. All that self-improvement stuff on TRP? Do all of that. Then approach hot women for sex. Be funny and self assured. Use a condom. Edit: I wouldn't call it my "philosophy", considering I don't spend that much time thinking about how to have sex with hot babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:39 AM
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So the entirety of your point is that attractive people don't want to sleep with unattractive people? That's not TRP philosophy, dude, that's just common sense. This supports the supposition that the sexual selection strategies of TRP are correct and useful. I don't see how this goes against the notion that TRP philosophy is 'the wrong' way to think. Some of it is correct and useful. Some of it is wrong and/or silly and/or immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 05:05 AM
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by trying to ascribe a thought experiment to his actual views. It was his thought experiment, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 04:30 AM
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1) Why is it not easy for me to sleep with celebrities? Why are some hot men too hot to sleep with me? Are they all hypergamous? How does hypergamy even play into this? 2) Make yourself as attractive as possible. All that self-improvement stuff on TRP? Do all of that. Then approach hot women for sex. Be funny and self assured. Use a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 03:53 AM
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Ok, that makes a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 06:29 PM
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How does having sex ruin love? Does it only ruin it for women, or are men who sleep around ruining love as well? My mom once asked how many partners my boyfriend had before me and when I told her, she said. "well you're special" all snarky and sarcastic, and that stung for a while. But I came to realize that I am special, and he demonstrates that in a large variety of ways that have nothing to do with who he stuck his penis in before he knew I existed. Past sexual partners only ruin love if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 06:02 PM
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Again, I thought it was evident that women have been treated abysmally throughout history to control their freedom of sexuality precisely because it was the only way (at the time) for men to maximize the certainty that their children were their own. And your point is that this is a good thing? That I should have to prove that we shouldn't treat women as property? Monogamy, whilst guaranteeing genetic offspring for the man, relies on trust. In essence it's a faith based acceptance. Regardless, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 10:19 PM
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I am arguing that a small group of people hold a double standard which does not reflect that innate preferences of the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 10:15 PM
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You haven't shown there are different preferences about promiscuity and I think you know what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 06:35 PM
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Isn't the onus the other way around? No. If you want to make the claim that women and men should face different standards wrt promiscuity, you need to back that up with something. I'm not even sure what point your trying to make about women being treated like chattel, are you suggesting that's what we should use as a starting point, women are property? And only if DNA testing were mandatory in all cases would the case for promiscuity double standards no longer have any validity (other than resid…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 06:02 PM
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You haven't even shown there are differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:42 PM
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Projecting personal preference onto every male and assuming female preference. Speculation. Cultural norms. It doesn't matter where it comes from so long as the answer isn't "actual differences between men and women".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:10 PM
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So the distaste for sluts reflects men's taste, and 'acceptance' for studs reflects women's sexual taste. Prove it. I remember reading an article a while ago that surveyed college men and women, and both preferred a low partner count. So I'm not inclined to just take that as a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:00 PM
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I think it's easier to criticize someone else's opinion on how to improve things, than to come up with your own. There is much criticism directed at TRP, but who else is really addressing the above problems? Not TRP. TRP isn't coming up with solutions, and they actually think the things you listed are a problem(I don't). TRP is about maximizing personal benefits in the current environment, not changing society. I see your edit, but this statement contradicts it. TRP isn't addressing the above "p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:53 PM
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Differently, for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:27 PM
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Prove to me that that has a bearing on promiscuity, then it'll be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:23 PM
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I don't have to respect anything, certainly not your condescending tone. I have no hard feelings, though. There's no negative note. You want to disrespect the spirit of your favorite mods post, fine, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:20 PM
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You have everywhere else in the world to spread it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:04 AM
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If you think someone telling you you're being unnecessarily contentious in a positive place and directing you to literally any other thread to say the same thing is censoring. Although how that could possibly be interpreted as censoring is completely beyond me. Or you could just stop being negative for the sake of it and let everyone else have a brief respite from endless bickering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:32 AM
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You have everywhere else in the world to spread it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:22 AM
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As for my question.... what is your favorite thing about this sub, or even if you hate it haha, why do you keep coming back? I'm pretty sure I don't dislike any active contributors on this sub. That sounds underwhelming, but it's not something I can say about most subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:20 AM
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Why do you have to bring down a positive thread with this shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:10 AM
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I'm not ending it with an "I don't know", I began it with an "I don't know". The first words I wrote on this thread were: This is a tough question. I don't know if we should have special standards for women in the military or not. You can tell me I have no moral compass or whatever, but I have stated from the beginning that I don't have a clear position on this particular issue. The fact is though, it doesn't matter if your double standard is right or wrong, because comparing it to promiscuity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:07 AM
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I said I legitimately don't know. I said that in my first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 10:44 PM
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If there's a legitimate reason for a double standard then yes, it is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 10:36 PM
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Totally irrelevant. Physical fitness differences between gender are proven. When you can prove promiscuity standards have a reason to be different, then your double standard will be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 10:27 PM
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I specifically mentioned that "The insults against women are another matter", I must have glossed over that, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:21 PM
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This is a tough question. I don't know if we should have special standards for women in the military or not...That's a very complex issue that I don't really want to delve into. Sports leagues is a simpler problem: should men and women have separate leagues? Yes, I think they definitely should. Nevertheless, it's a false equivalency. The fact that men are generally more physically capable than women is a well documented fact. Can you prove that women shouldn't be sluts, while men can have as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:19 PM
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Absolutely. A lot do. But they are not on trial here. I was responding to this part of your OP: I don't see many insults against "virgins". I can name maybe a handful of people who make a big deal out of it, and mainly indirectly. E.g. Clauderoughly who hates mgtows for "giving up" (he assumes mgtows are just virgins who gave up). You seemed to be exonerating TRP from virgin shaming, but I don't think that's a fair assessment. My point that even people who make it a political mission to fighting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:12 PM
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Virgin shaming is the sort of thing that advocacy groups based around gender have always historically drawn. You're probably familiar with this image against the suffragettes. Unfortunately, no one has come up with anything more creative in the past however many years. People still try to cut down feminists by calling them ugly bitter shrews who can't find a husband or MRA's and the manosphere by calling them virgin fedora neckbeards. Nothing ever changes. Also, let's be real, it isn't like TRP …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:49 PM
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I don't read Jezebel or the Guardian or any of that crap, so this doesn't apply to me right? When I see things against men on par with TRP(and there are a few things), it gets under my skin and I try to avoid/fight against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:54 AM
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Lying in the first case (flaunting, bragging, lying by overrepresentation) draws suspicion, distrust, dislike. Lying in the second case is more sympathetic, draws less hate. True it's more sympathetic, but I would still be upset if you lied and intentionally underrepresented yourself. Lies make it harder to establish trust, I would be much happier if you just said "I'd prefer not to say what I make". It achieves the same result without deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:50 AM
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Not everyone agrees on that definition. From the OP: "Negging" (playfully teasing in order to bring down another's self esteem so they are more attracted to you)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 02:52 AM
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Love isn't formulaic romance fictions. You can be in love without any interest in romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 11:54 PM
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in general relationships, love is a priority for women, but not so much for men. Sounds like a shitty relationship if love isn't a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 11:36 PM
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He may say his fear is real, or there's a legitimate reason to not talk to this lady. His fear being real doesn't necessarily mean that he has a legitimate reason to be afraid. It just means that he is afraid. If you don't acknowledge that his fear is real, how can you help him overcome it? It seems you agree that a well thought, and effort filled romantic response is valuable. But a well thought out pickup, or relationship ploy, to get a girl in bed is not permissible . Am I correct? No and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 11:04 PM
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Women often think because they feel it's real. What do you mean by this? When you feel something that feeling is real. If I feel like you are going to find me and kill me, that doesn't mean you actually will or plan to, but my feelings of paranoia and suspicion would be real. you know that's because he knows: you, your heart, your feelings, and he's connected. Is that not sincere and honest? Let's step away from "real" for a moment, because we clearly define that differently. Romantic gestures s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 09:14 PM
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Real meaning something you can touch or taste or even logically support. That's...a really bizarre definition of reality. Even the effort doesn't matter Yes, it very much does. Ok, you know how some people will buy a pre-cooked dinner and toss it in the oven, but try to make it look like they cooked it themselves? That's because they know that the extra effort it takes to home cook a meal is important. Running to the store and buying whatever you can find is not nearly as meaningful as taking ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 08:33 PM
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Unfortunately, romance isn't real. Again, it isn't the gesture itself, it's the fact that you are willing to put time, thought, and effort into pleasing your partner. That's real. Acting as if these "truths" are true Acting and truly believing are two very different things. That sucks Indeed. I personally think women are awesome, just sucky as friends.There are few things in my life that I like more than taking a woman from 0, to ecstasy, to orgasm on my own terms. See, this is a problem too. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 07:26 PM
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No. Everyone is not you. It is impossible for you to truly believe it, that doesn't mean it's impossible for everyone. Also, romantic gestures aren't based on the act itself, it's the thought, time, and effort that go into them that make them important and special. Both of these actions are completely deliberate. Are you saying they are purposefully meant to deceive? In most instances, they genuinely are not. using the same type "misinformation", Nope. Using put downs, instilling fear, and other…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 06:42 PM
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Ok, here's your problem: you think romance and promises of love are dishonest because you personally believe that they're false. However, when most people say "I love you more than anyone" they actually believe that they love that person more than anyone. Whether or not it's true, it's not a lie. It may be misinformation, but it's not deliberate misinformation. And that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 06:25 PM
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It's the dishonest, manipulative tactics that many disapprove of. And all the "women have no honor, are worth nothing more than their pussy, look at how much women suck, they're all whores", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 06:09 PM
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Nope, it's perfectly fine to learn how to have sex with women. If you think the objection to TRP is because people don't want men to learn how to get laid, then you haven't been paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 05:41 PM
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Yeah suicidal tendencies make death a go-to solution and preferable to lots of stuff. Also, I found the article about public speaking and it turns out I had it wrong: most people fear public speaking more than they fear death, not that they'd prefer death to public speaking.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:24 AM
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I don't think he's perfect, certainly not. I am dating him because he meets my standards, wants, and desires for a boyfriend, if he didn't meet my standards we wouldn't be together. I just don't need anything to change. Like I said, it would be nice but it's not necessary. Also we've been dating for two years, it's not exactly temporary and if anyone's getting bored it's him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 06:11 AM
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Aw that sucks. Hopefully I won't be out for that long. I'm starting to feel better now, but every time I think I'm getting better I get worse again so idk...I have prescription drugs though, which makes everything better =] Also, Belgian waffles beat pancakes hands down any day. I absolutely agree in most cases, I actually just got a Belgian waffle maker for Christmas because I adore waffles. But I was really craving pancakes, I wanted something fluffy and soft. Waffles need to be crispy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 03:13 AM
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Haha, I know, I can't imagine liking instant potatoes. And thanks, I went to urgent care today and got drugs so I should be feeling better in no time =]
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 02:42 AM
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Women love the idea of prison rape Uhhhh...what?
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:34 AM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 02:31 AM
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I like maple candies and I can appreciate real maple syrup sometimes, but usually I just some Aunt Jemima. Idk, my boyfriend gets cravings for instant mashed potatoes sometimes and I can't understand that at all, but the mouth wants what the mouth wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 02:15 AM
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Hmm. Makeup and gym are perfectly fine. It's self improvement, it makes you look and feel better, no harm done. I think if someone asked and you said "no I'm not wearing any makeup, this is just my face" and you were wearing makeup, that's deceitful and wrong. Same goes for cosmetic surgery and working out, imo. I mean, most people should be able to tell you're lying, but still. Instilling fear in the partner that you theoretically care about, that's unhealthy to me. Bringing someone else down t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 02:11 AM
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I'd chose death over failing a class too. Death isn't scary at all to me. Humiliation and failure are.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 01:51 AM
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this would be a way to dispel the hysteria surrounding rape I very highly doubt that it would have that affect. Death over public speaking? Yes I would literally chose death. You can't determine long term effects that easily. I've experienced trauma that didn't lead to PTSD and nevertheless stayed with me and affected me in the long term. Maybe significantly less than being blind, maybe not, I don't know. Who are you and I to determine that?
/r/MensRights25/01/14 10:13 PM
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Ideally I want lots of pancakes. Super fluffy, delicious pancakes with cheap syrup that is definitely not 100% maple. And to be over this flu. Relationship wise though, realistically I just want to stay with my boyfriend and have him be happy with me and want me and I don't much care beyond that. Ideally, we'd have more sex and fight less and go on more adventures together and never be sad again. All that's just icing though. Edit: How am I working to get it? Being sweet and caring and buying gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 07:37 PM
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College Humor makes cheap stereotypes of everyone. There's also The 6 girls you'll date in college and the 6 monsters you'll have for roommates. It's their thing.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 02:40 AM
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Yes, harassment is still a crime. Repeated death threats, over the internet or otherwise, will likely land you in prison.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 02:32 AM
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What would be the point? What would it change? unquestionably worse than rape Nothing is unquestionably worse than anything else because the severity of every action is so incredibly subjective. You might think that death is unquestionably worse than public speaking, and yet a considerable amount of people would rather die than endure public speaking.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 02:24 AM
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Some computer nerd who's stumbling in his words and nervously trying to complement you doesn't turn you on Hmm, on the contrary, I've been dating that computer nerd for years who was too nervous to ask me out. Edited for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:58 AM
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Ok, this is the second time I have seen a RPer quote this so I have to say: you realize he is talking about a literal bitch, right? A dog. Also, below you point out that Beyonce is performing. Uh...and you think Jay Z is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:55 AM
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Gordon Ramsey is all of those things, ...Gordon Ramsey is extremely caring??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:50 AM
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You can stay if you want, but why wouldn't you leave if you hate it here? That's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:42 AM
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So leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:37 AM
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The point is that those instructions should never have been expected to be adhered to. They're the rules of the sub that every single user is expected to follow. That's the exact opposite of bias. Report comments that break the rules, don't respond in kind. It's pretty basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:35 AM
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I would say that a good portion of women, at least in my boyfriend's comp sci program, work harder to prove to themselves that they belong there. It's easier for them to get a job in the field but they don't just settle for a job, they get jobs at Google and other huge corporations. Might also have to do with the fact that many of them are from strict families that heavily push academics. Also many of them are not...traditionally attractive. Or particularly social. Not the girl you fall over you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 03:34 AM
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Anyone who is going to kill themselves over sex(or anything really) incontrovertibly needs help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 11:25 PM
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Get a better job, move into a bigger house. Then you can have kittens. Even if I did, in the short term kittens are impractical. Probably a better, less ridiculous example is wanting a baby. I really want a baby, the way some men want sex. I feel like it's what will make everything better. So I am taking steps(securing myself financially, working on myself emotionally, locking down a good partner, etc.) to get that, but I have accepted that right now, I can't have a baby, it's impractical. I'm g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 10:27 PM
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I didn't say you're miserable, I said that if you can't accept that failure and disappointment is a fact of life, you will be miserable. Constantly. giving up is what would actually make me miserable Accepting that you won't get your way 100% of the time isn't giving up, it's being realistic. Keep striving, by all means, but don't act like disappointment is some huge burden that no one else experiences(as OP made it seem). It's just life and we all deal with it. What's stopping you getting more …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 09:46 PM
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No need to be hyperbolic. That's my point. I think you were being hyperbolic, suggesting you could debate without emotions. Emotions are going to play in, at least a little. Maybe you like him in strong contrast to your past relationships? I think so. I think I also relate well to him because I am shy and awkward too. He brings out a side of my personality I prefer, the "nice girl" part of me. Well it does sound like you have a strong desire to be controlled, and you found someone who will let y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 06:43 PM
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I do like intellectual debates as long as no emotions are involved. In that case, I would like to suggest you have debates with androids, because you won't find a human capable of detaching from their emotions 100%. Or even 70%, imo. That's not how people work. If you women reject trp ideals, do you admit you are attracted to dominant men? This is complicated for me to answer. I have a mental health issue(or maybe it's my relationship with my mother? idk) that causes me to seek out people who wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 05:48 PM
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You can try all you want, but life's going to throw you punches. If you can't accept that you don't get everything you want, you're going to be miserable forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:58 PM
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All mods seem to agree though, there was no rule breaking. Well I didn't read the thread so I can't really say. I assumed rules were broken. Questioning a mod decision isn't to deny that they have the final say I don't have a problem with questioning their decisions. I took issue with this: the mods needs to explain which rules were broken. You can't just delete people's posts without an explanation. Because they should offer explanation if they want the user base to be happy and the sub to run …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:25 AM
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I was inclined to side with the mods already, but /u/SpermJackalope's completely childish response to the deletion just solidified it. Things get nuked all the time because one person in the conversation breaks the rules. I've never seen it happen on this sub until now, but on others such as /r/subredditdrama and /r/askwomen, it is a common enough occurrence. It's easier to just get rid of all of it for the good of the sub, imo. It's not lazy moderation, it just makes sense to get rid of an unpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:34 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vn8du/baboons_mate_with_the_nice_guy_who_befriends_them/ceuxi6y
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 03:00 AM
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No longer an alpha, he has been fought down to the bottom ranks. At one point he was alpha, now he is, I don't know, omega? And the reason he is able to stay with his troop is because he befriends the females.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:57 AM
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You're right, it doesn't matter. I apologize for what I said to frighten you and I won't do it in the future. That isn't difficult, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:51 AM
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Neutral according to who? Take some responsibility for your actions. If your partner feels uncomfortable, you probably made a misstep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:48 AM
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So you don't understand that other people have different reactions than you and you are unable to pick up on social cues and understand what is and is not appropriate. Fine, but that's not the norm. Most people are capable of problem free interaction with members of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:29 AM
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Different quote than the one you responded to. But still, if you pull a knife on me and I feel threatened, that's your responsibility. If a guy does something uncomfortable, it's his bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:26 AM
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But she said "I would feel unsafe", not "he would make me feel unsafe".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:04 AM
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Well I'm asking because your position doesn't make sense, and I think it might if I could see from a woman's perspective. Imagine someone said "hey gay boy, want to fuck?" out the window at you and then honked and laughed and drove away. Would you be comfortable or uncomfortable? Imagine a guy got up real close to you, leered at you, and told you to show him your dick. Comfortable or uncomfortable? Imagine an ex who you have been trying desperately to get rid of sends you a picture of her tits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 02:01 AM
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avoidance of responsibility Feeling unsafe is avoiding responsibility? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 01:42 AM
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Most everyday people aren't Socrates or tv tropes. You certainly can be both, but both take effort and generally people favor one over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 01:14 PM
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I guess they don't need to, but I challenge you to find someone who finds out they're a father and doesn't give it any thought at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 03:20 AM
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Ok...I still don't see how this makes abandoning your children feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 03:19 AM
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The exact same choice men have to make: to raise or not to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:47 AM
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Yes, and the point is based on a false premise because women are not moms the second they are pregnant, they have many options to not be mothers, even after giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:45 AM
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She's a mom, once she is pregnant. That's just untrue. Abortion and adoption are possibilities. Women can and do chose not to be mothers. He never needs to decide. The whole point of that video that you linked was that men did have to decide and women didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 01:16 AM
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I believe the typical brawn versus brains concept. On the one hand, there's the aggressive, muscular, and impulsive manly man. The one who acts instead of thinking. Whereas the smart, brainy guy is more tentative, generally weaker physically, and thinks things through thoroughly. The two are usually at odds, it's rare to be both brawny and brainy. Think of the most academically intelligent people you've met: the genius who sat behind you in math class, the computer nerd who spent his free time s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 01:14 AM
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Nope, in the age of many birth control choices, women also get to make an active choice to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 12:52 AM
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Not wanting to raise and nurture your children is feminine? Not dreaming of a wedding is feminine? That seems like the opposite of traditional femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:14 PM
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two bad things If that's what they are, though. Instead of canceling each other, couldn't they compound on to each other. I suppose, but why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:56 AM
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If American culture as a whole is being feminized, why is it that TRP and other traditionalists seem appalled by how masculine women in America apparently are? Quite often TRP bemoans both the lack of feminine women and the lack of masculine men. So doesn't that mean we're striking a balance? Shouldn't that be acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:12 AM
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I think it's unfair to leave up a comment implying the OP had a personality disorder and take down the response implying that the commenter had a personality disorder. Neither is more antagonizing, imo. Personally, I think both should be left up, but if you're going to take one down you might as well take down the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:35 AM
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TIL a great deal of college kids have personality disorders
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:24 AM
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Oh, it's my favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:21 AM
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So? She didn't say "oh my god help me, I'm going to die alone what can I do to prevent this?" Simply wondering if she'll die alone is not fear of abandonment, it's normal. Really, you must think everyone is mentally ill if you confuse normal behavior with pathology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:20 AM
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She didn't mention fear of abandonment that I saw. Two of her relationships lasted a year and one for three. That doesn't signify a pattern of unstable relationships, she's young. Just because a relationship is short, doesn't mean it's unstable, it just means it didn't work out, which it often doesn't rather quickly when you are young. BPD is far more than half showing two symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 11:22 PM
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You should read up on borderline Personality What? Perhaps you should read up on it, OP doesn't describe any of the main symptoms of BPD, other than maybe impulsivity, but even that isn't to a pathological degree. Are you implying that anyone who has several short term relationships likely has a severe and multifaceted personality disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 11:01 PM
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Ok, thanks for the studies, I'll look into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 10:54 PM
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That doesn't matter so much, tbh. You're brain isn't fully formed and you barely know this guy, unless you were friends before you started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 10:54 PM
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I don't mean to be judgmental, but you said yourself you start dreaming of weddings before it's really appropriate, so here goes: you're practically both teenagers, neither of you have real world experience, and you've only been dating for 6 months. It's probably not different. Chances are you will break up. Keep that in mind before you start planning your whole life around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 05:59 PM
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In this sub, users frequently show an understanding of the opposition. Or did you all just decide to pander to the mostly feminist population that Reddit is in order to garner upvotes? How? By saying the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 04:53 PM
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You didn't explain this at all. You simply said you were sexual with him. I explained in the original post I linked, the one you quoted. Oh, I didn't do anal either, I forgot that's a thing. But sexual with some limitations should be enough for intimacy. No one does everything in the bedroom. But it is, unequivocally, the highest standard of intimacy men experience and desire. Says you. Like I said, I guess I'll be revoking my SO's man card since he doesn't even consider sex to be intimate, roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 01:40 AM
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He's lying for your benefit. Good for him, if that makes him and you happy. Lol, you're adorable. He regularly turns me down. I want sex far more than he is willing to give. I didn't imply any ONE form of sex. You did, since in my situation the only form of sex I didn't have was PIV. he would have a MUCH more difficult time having feelings for / feeling intimate with you without sex. You assume. Why is YOUR feeling of intimacy more important than a man's? Again, making these assumptions that AMA…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 10:10 PM
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For a second I thought I was on AskWomen not PPD, ok this reply makes a lot more sense now. men experience intimacy through sex much more than... well... anything else. Tell that to my current SO who adores cuddles more than anything and doesn't even want sex half the time. I'll just go ahead and take away his man card then? If you're not having sex, a guy can easily believe you don't love him. This is not uncommon. He knew from the start PIV was off limits. This was not a situation in which all…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:00 PM
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I have yet to see anyone on this sub or anywhere else in the pill-o-sphere who supports TBP but actually seems to understand TRP. You haven't been paying attention. Just on this thread two people within a couple of hours posted summaries you agree with. I think perhaps the person with a lack of understanding is you. You think that if we could all just really see what TRP is about we would all want to join in? Typical female solipsism. We're not all just like you /u/scallopkid, some of us have di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 05:32 PM
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where do we draw that line Mental illness and psychological damage to the point that you can't reason properly. We already have that line, legally. And of course I don't know, but /u/berryokt's comments suggest some very severe psychological damage that would prevent her from being accountable for her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 05:08 PM
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I agree with /u/myfriendscantknow. I wish I could have helped you. I think everyone's concern over your theoretical child is because it's in the future, there's a chance to help her(if she ever exists). But your past is beyond our control, we can only offer sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 05:05 PM
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The other night my boyfriend and I got bored so we went to see Frozen together(see it, it's great). He suggested the whole date and even bought the tickets. After the movie he was walking out with his hood up and that bouncy little walk he has and I ran up in front of him and kissed him. When I pulled away he was looking all sheepish and shy because there were a few people in the lobby. It undid me. We went straight home. He was away with his relatives for a week around Christmas. The night he c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 04:39 PM
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This post describes with a man I think has RP characteristics. I'm not saying this is representative of TRP at all, just relaying my experience. It's worth noting that I was inexperienced and had almost no sex drive at the time I was seeing him, so I wasn't the best judge of "good in bed". I still feel relatively certain he wasn't. And he put pressure on me sexually and sort of hinted that since I didn't have PIV sex with him I probably didn't love him. My sex life with my current SO, who is BP,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 04:20 PM
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...I'm pretty sure /u/LifterofThings is red pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 05:07 PM
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Insecurity. Edit: Although to be fair, that's my take away from nearly everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 01:54 AM
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You're talking about marketing. A salesperson isn't responsible for looking at trends or selecting inventory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 10:03 PM
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Marketing and sales are two distinct things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 09:48 PM
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To be honest, I'm a little lazy, and I already know the points and counterpoints to the question I asked else I would not have asked it. After 4 hours of people responding with points and counterpoints you "already knew" what people would have said. This is purple pill man, you don't have to impress us with an alpha display of some sort =P Edited because I apparently don't know how to numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:36 PM
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I feel relatively certain I could have said anything and that would be your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:20 PM
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I'm confused, is this an argument for or against trusting the word of people with experience? Lol. Touche. Anyway, you know the vocation is about how well you're able to guide them based on random tidbits they give you. But I'm still talking to the customer, asking about them, about what they want, how they feel about the products. I can ask an expert how to sell to this individual and they can give me vague advice, but nothing will tell me as much as talking to the customer. It's not a metaphor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:20 PM
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It's not difficult to understand. I would just talk to the buyer. That's all my original post stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:36 AM
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I sold lighting systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:13 AM
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If, hypothetically, my method of talking to the customer about their needs didn't work, then I would go to the sales expert. But they would still have been my second choice. A second choice I almost never needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:12 AM
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If I can find it in the library I'll give it a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:08 AM
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I used to work in sales and before that I spent years soliciting donations for my university. I got on just fine asking the customer directly what they were looking for or by having personal information on them to go on. "Oh I don't want one, thanks." Well then what are they doing on the lot? But you might not like any of the ones I've got to offer and if you prefer something else well I'm not going to make my sale. You get a lot of no's because you can't make every sale. Sometimes people just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:06 AM
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Ah, well luckily I've got my father for that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:56 AM
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Oh, you mean first meeting someone? Yeah, you have to have chemistry, things in common, be attractive to your potential partner, etc. In that case I could say "be genuinely sweet and have a natural inclination for silliness" and if you could somehow acquire those traits completely that would work whether I had to tell you or not. It's just that people can't magic themselves into other people. Then the relationship is working toward being someone that you partner can live with for the rest of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:20 AM
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I don't know about other women, but I tell my SO all the time what my expectations are and what I want him to do to make him more desirable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 02:38 AM
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Have you ever done sales before? For a few months I was a rather successful saleswoman until I decided I hated it. The majority of it was just being nice to people. And my customers always told me their needs, I was not expected to mind read. It was my job to know how to meet those needs and to tell them all the other handy features. a women may know what she likes, but she is just one data point That's fine, but if she is the actual person you are trying to approach you should probably know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 02:37 AM
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I'm not a car buyer though. I have never in my life even come close to buying a car. So I'm the wrong person to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 02:29 AM
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But I would ask the car buyer. "Hey what do I need to tell you to make you want this car?" And then tell them that. And sell a car. Done deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:51 AM
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Well honestly, MRA's are less likely than RPers to respond the way the people on your forum did. They don't usually want a patriarchy or want the men in charge and they don't think that women need protecting. Quite the opposite, they want women to step up and take agency and stop relying on men to provide and protect them. The response you got seems either RP or traditionalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 04:53 PM
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Go onto a feminist board and write "I hit women, but only when they're into it" and see how that goes, lol. It'd be kind of weird to make that announcement, but I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it... Feminists will jump all over you if you say "I really don't like bdsm, and while everyone can do what they want as long as the other person consents to it, I don't want to hear about it". You're supposed to be constantly validating of everyone else's sexual choices, especially with b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 03:18 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 05:06 AM
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the most successful country in the history of mankind Luxembourg? The ancient Roman empire? Sparta? England?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 04:38 AM
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Well, since TRP views itself as inherently anti-feminist and they are the authority on their own views, I guess that kind of answers that? They think feminism is collapsing society, I believe. Also, do you have to be a feminist to be Blue Pill? No. I do not consider myself a feminist(at least not a mainstream feminist) and I am mostly blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 02:15 AM
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. When you call your ex names that doesn't mean they are an asshole, it means they're an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 07:09 PM
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Women fall into the alpha abusive trap with equal frequency. How many times have you heard about a woman who is physically and emotionally abused and goes back to her abuser over and over? She is like a moth to a flame as well. Men do this as well. Battered people in general tend to return to their abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 07:05 PM
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It's never, ever ok to hit a women 2. Except for BDSM, where it's ok to choke her, hit her, and pointedly humiliate her, etc etc. And it's somehow morally not ok for you to not be ok with bdsm. Most people are able to wrap their head around this. It's not ok for you to hit another person unless they want you to because it gives them pleasure. There are plenty of other things that are wrong without permission but totally cool with consent(i.e. sex, medical experimentation, using someone's stuff).…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:40 AM
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Are there studies showing its effectiveness as a sexual strategy, or famous examples? I'm sure there are studies, I just don't know where to find them. Abuse, physical or otherwise, tends to make your partner want to stay with you, or at the very least fear leaving you. Stockholm syndrome and battered person syndrome illustrate this effect. However, just because it's effective doesn't mean you should use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:31 AM
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I have never cheated on an SO because I think it is unjustifiable and always wrong. Cheating may be understandable in some situations but it's still cowardly. If you feel like things are that bad in your relationship, at least have the guts to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:22 AM
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When I give my own anecdotes on the internet I am as truthful as I reasonably can be. Therefore, in my eternal solipsism, I actually tend to assume that most people on the internet are telling true stories. I only discard the most ridiculous stories as "probably false". I believe that TRP methods work for some people, that's not my issue. People who are very wary of liars have generally either been lied to a lot or are liars themselves. The post you linked complains of exaggeration on TRP and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 05:34 PM
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A lot of this was trial and error for me, and I did some stupid things on the way to finding the balance we now have. I basically used all the pills. Purple pill worked best. My original strategy was to get angry at him for not wanting sex. As you could expect, that didn't work and only served to push us apart and make sex/seduction into an anxiety ridden ordeal. So we started having talks about how we could compromise and both feel comfortable. What it mostly boiled down to was me backing off a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 07:00 PM
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Also happy new year's!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 04:59 AM
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The abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 04:58 AM
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I think when you make your vows to someone you are obligated to tell them about the serious decisions you make in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 04:52 AM
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I don't think any woman is obligated to tell anyone about an abortion. I'm not lying to you if I don't disclose my medical history, just as she isn't lying by not disclosing hers. I disagree. This is his wife. Failing to disclose medical procedures to your spouse is a lie of omission and it's not acceptable. Sometimes there is an obligation to disclose. Just like it's wrong to hide the fact that you have herpes from a sexual partner, I think it's wrong to hide anything major(medical or otherwise…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 10:50 PM
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It would be like if the couple had been trying for kids for years at the wife's request and halfway through the husband found out he was shooting blanks but then lied to her about it for years to keep the relationship going. This isn't really a fair comparison because in this instance he is both lying to her and denying her the opportunity to get what she wants, i.e. kids. In the abortion situation she lied to him in order to give him what he wants, no children. So yes, she's lying and I agree t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 10:46 PM
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Ugh no. I prefer to nurture children and discipline them in an understanding way, not shove them into a stricter environment for their individuality to die in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 08:59 PM
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You make more money doing dangerous jobs and many women would prefer to take a pay cut rather than work in the mines. Or go to school rather than go into physical labor. Pretty much everyone would prefer to make money in a comfortable environment, but you have to sacrifice something and/or have the resources to do it. Cherry pickers presumably have no resources and want to make as much money as possible, regardless of the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 11:26 PM
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It's not a theory, the Puritans were the first Americans to really care about structured education and created primers and such. Horace Mann eventually moved to separate religion from school and establish a public school system, but it was still modeled after the past systems that worked, i.e. the Puritanical system, heavy in memorization and discipline. Boys tend to struggle with this more, evidenced by the over diagnosis of ADHD in boys who simply aren't meant to sit still for hours. Boys also…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:01 PM
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I wonder what motivates a guy to spend days in sub-zero weather on a cherry-picker working with a chainsaw around high-voltage electrical wire? Money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 01:43 PM
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GWW specifically talked about women making the workplace no longer a male space, she spoke of HR and board meetings. She wasn't talking about education at all. And the reason that men are failing in the education system has nothing to do with women entering it and making new rules, it has to do with the Puritanical roots of education in the U.S. It just so happens that women do better than men when asked to sit still for hours and do recitation type learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 01:39 PM
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Oh ok, I remember that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 01:36 PM
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College isn't the workplace though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 03:41 AM
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Why did she link Heartise in the video description? Did I miss something? Is it to illustrate a male space? Anyway, I like GWW's ideas most of the time, although she obviously only tells one side of the story. I don't know that I have any particular commentary on this video. Men deciding not to marry doesn't bother me, I'm not all that thrilled about the prospect of marriage myself. And even if I were, I'm still 22 and fairly attractive, if I had my heart set on marriage I could find it. She tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 03:18 AM
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It exists, yes, in the sense that we encourage our boys to feel like they need sex and our girls to value and protect virginity. Like another user pointed out, TRP really drives this sort of mentality. TRP often talks of sex(with a woman) as an innate need for a man, an extremely powerful drive. Many claim that all of society was built in order to impress and get sex from women. On the other hand, they don't believe sluts have much potential for LTRs and think that women should protect their pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 08:04 PM
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This is my analogy, so the two do have something to do with each other. It's a poor analogy, though, because that's not how the world works. Beating your spouse and philanthropy are not related in the real world, so what is the sense of connecting them in a hypothetical? No. They go to the extreme to prove a point, and hopefully get people to a middle ground. But they're not going to the extreme by saying "this thing is bad, but that thing isn't". A better example would be a radical feminist's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 05:47 PM
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Oh I know. And it was deleted by moderation I believe. You just seemed to be implying that /u/myfriendscantknow was making up the comment or the language of it so I wanted to point out that it's not out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:07 PM
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You can make mental health issues funny. I laugh at my own all the time. That article just didn't do it, it wasn't funny except the obvious fact that the author never dated a girl with clinical anorexia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 10:05 PM
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"full of beta faggots" sounds like a ridiculous caricature of a red piller authored by the blue pill. Well, no, it sounds like a comment by /u/skinny_bitches. It's since been deleted, but he said almost exactly that Edit: Or are you saying that skinny_bitches is not representative of your culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:59 PM
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I just looked that up and within the first few paragraphs he claims that if you don't beat your son he'll "turn gay". The whole thing just reeks of 2edgy4u mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 09:53 PM
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Both parties should give each other thoughtful gifts that their partner will enjoy. I find setting a price range makes the whole exchange less stressful. Does giving a woman a gift make you "alpha" or "beta"? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 04:21 PM
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Myself, I'd be willing to take a beating if it meant I could raise even $5000 for a poor country. But that's not how it works. The two have nothing to do with each other. My issue is that most people will just brush it off. So you're going to the complete other extreme. Instead of ignoring accomplishments and focusing on a crime, you're ignoring the crime to focus on accomplishments. Why can you not say "he did a lot of good for the world, but he was a terrible husband"? Why so black and white? …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 04:09 PM
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IIRC she was emotionally guarded and had intimacy issues because of her parents or some shit. Intimacy issues are not typical, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 08:00 AM
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I think a respectable woman is...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 07:58 AM
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The man's freedom just happened to manifest itself in not taking shit from anybody, drinking, smoking, just basically living as he wanted. His freedom manifested itself in him beating his wife, with no indication that she instigated and he was defending himself. Is that freedom from being PC still admirable when it manifests in a violent way? What if he was a serial killer? Would you still call his freedom from societal rules admirable? None of us are free and for good reason, so why is freedom …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 05:04 AM
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I'm interested in your personal take. Why do you think beating your spouse is barely a flaw? Is that representative of your red pill mindset? The comment in which you state that beating your spouse is a admirable sign of male freedom indicates that you take this idea from red pill views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 04:24 AM
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Natalie Portman's character was clearly meant to be emotionally damaged and thus is not a good representation of what a healthy woman would do in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 02:49 AM
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I think a respectable woman is a woman who takes care of herself and is polite and courteous to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 02:44 AM
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and you put trp at that scale? Not that far but sometimes, somewhat. I would liken them to addicts, yes. the single fact they are exposing it is good, you cant blame them for not wanting to do more. They're exposing the issues to other people who have no interest in changing things. And I can blame them for not wanting to do more. If I had food in my hand and passed by a homeless person clearly starving, pointed him out to my friends, ate my sandwich tauntingly in front of him, and then we all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 04:10 PM
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Nowhere in my comment did I say that TRP is wrong. My opinion on whether it is right or wrong is completely irrelevant to my point. You said TRP was trying to give men protection under the law, it is not. Which you actually admit: they may not want to do good thinks for a man But in response to your off topic points: thats the thing, all i see all of you say is that you dont agree with their way of life. I also don't agree with the racist lifestyle. I don't think that neo Nazis make good choices…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 06:46 AM
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Merry Christmas! =D
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 03:07 AM
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No. That is not what TRP is actually doing, not even close. Read the introduction, it's sexual strategy for men, not a move for equal rights and protections for men. The Red Pill is men's sexual strategy. Reality is happening, and we need to make sure that we adjust our strategy accordingly. They don't want to make things better for men. The don't want to change "reality". They just want to make their own love life better. And laugh at "beta manginas" on the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 05:44 PM
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So what part of this do you disagree with? If you're talking about domestic violence, women are more frequently the sole abuser. If you mean in general, I think both sexes have it in them to be abusive. Nothing you said contradicts that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 06:58 AM
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So...you're not interested in actual debate? Why are you here then? What about 8 do you not agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 05:46 AM
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Ah, ok, I guess I interpreted your comment a lot more harshly than you meant it. Thanks for clearing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 03:59 AM
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Men complain about the fact that there are more resources for women escaping DV, stop complaining and make your own fucking shelters and resource centres. Also, LEAVE. Same advice I'd give a woman. That's alarmingly harsh. What about men who are being abused right now, looking to leave, who have no shelter to go to? In the midst of escaping from abuse they're meant to "make their own fucking shelters"? That seems extremely unreasonable. Also, telling an abused person to just leave is equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 03:38 AM
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I want to start by saying I'm glad you're over here. Your first mistake was going on /r/TheBluePill and assuming it was a voice for blue pill thought. It's not, it's just a circlejerk for laughs. Answers to your questions: We all rate each other based on physical attraction, I think, and we all have preferences of what we are attracted to. Being the sexiest person in the planet isn't necessary, but I see no sense in dating someone I am not sexually attracted to. That's what friends are for. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/13 11:53 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 09:36 PM
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Well I guess I didn't have all the fact and I don't know if hulk is a troll or what his motives are. But the exchange you two had was very confusing. From my perspective it looked like this: Vornash: Men are selfish and that is noble and good. Hulk: Sure, men are selfish, but couldn't you argue that women are also selfish? Vornash: No, here are examples of things that show that women are not selfish. [Although I now understand that you meant those things to be examples of how women are more self…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 06:15 AM
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No, I don't. I find the majority of your views unsavory, but I'm not going to laugh at you for petty things over it or call you names. I dislike it whenever people on TBP accuse RPW of secretly being men, and I do think that points to something deeper. The fact that you are living the life you want to live gets under their skin and they want to hand-wave it away. Some of the things they mock you for are unbelievably petty too. I think the way they treated Occam and Phantom was immature as well, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 05:51 AM
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I just try to be calm and understanding. That's the goal anyway, I'm not always perfect at enacting it and sometimes get frustrated right back at him. Kindness usually cools him off though, because it illustrates what an ass he's being by contrast and he'll get embarrassed and stop. For me, when I get unreasonably mad over silly things, the whole kindness thing doesn't work. It just makes me angrier. My boyfriend has to just ignore me until I calm down, and then we can both laugh about how silly…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 11:23 PM
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I'm not arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 10:29 PM
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I guess technically it comes down to that, but it's not as simple as you made it sound because metabolism fluctuates and it's hard to guess what someone's metabolism is like in the first place. I have been told by multiple nutritionists that the effect I described is real, so I believe it. On the flip side, people recovering from anorexia typically become hypermetabolic and are capable of eating an enormous amount of calories without making gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 09:25 PM
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Most people's metabolisms just aren't stable enough for it to be a straightforward math equation. If you only eat 1200 calories, but you eat them all in one meal at 10 pm, even if your BMR is typically 1500 you might still struggle to lose weight. When you go all day without eating it slows down your metabolism. And what types of food you're eating matter too, the nutritional value beyond the calories is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 08:32 PM
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I think you underestimate my desire for a kitten! On the flip side there's babies. It's even harder to get a baby than it is to get laid, especially if you want to raise your child in a good environment. And women tend to want babies more intensely than men. So we're all struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 08:25 PM
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If TRP is being criticized for censoring, then it's perfectly valid to bring up the fact that TBP also engages in censoring. No, because TBP is pretty openly pro-censorship. To say that one sub has more freedom to censor simply because it hides behind a 'parody' banner is ridiculous. It's not because it's parody. It's because TBP has no qualms about censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:14 PM
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and I also detected an agenda Well, no. The agenda was very clearly stated, which is the thing about TBP: they don't pretend to care about outside opinions. Dissent on TRP is allowable according to the sidebar. [Edit: Apparently that's no longer on the sidebar.] Not in practice. It's not just feminism they don't like. Anyone who disagrees with their regular users is gone. Look up at the top of this thread. /u/hulkhogan wrote a post that was upvoted and fairly well received. Got in a tussle with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:05 PM
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If and when they can make valid points and claim victory, they always will. If they make valid points then they can only "claim victory" outside the sub. Meaning they would have to engage in honest debate. The sub is a circle jerk, so valid points within the sub aren't victories, they're just preaching to the choir. If it's as pointless as these comments make it seem, then perhaps I don't need to go to the trouble of showing people that the reason for my ban was hatred for having a partner that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 05:54 AM
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blame patriarchy It's clearly Obama's fault, though. Thanks Obama!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:35 AM
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Losing weight isn't all that hard. You have to eat fewer calories than you burn. Not really relevant, but it's really, really not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:27 AM
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Sorry, but viewing a certain category of humans as interchangeable is pathological. Not in the way you describe. Not caring who it is you have sex with as long as you have sex isn't pathological. I don't care who serves me my drink at the bar, so long as the drink gets to me. Do I have a pathological view of bartenders?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:22 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:14 AM
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Someone will say that it doesn't matter though because TBP doesn't care about "free speech in its sub. I feel that's fair though. TRP gets up in arms about censorship and how they're daring to say what everyone else wants to silence. So it's sort of funny that they're so ban happy. TBP has no qualms about attempting to silence voices it finds repulsive so the fact that they delete and ban things is no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:05 AM
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Sure TBP does this. But TBP doesn't represent blue pill thought. I've seen mods do the whole "you're boring, this is supposed to be a satire sub, deleted" thing when someone dared to ask a serious question from a red pill perspective and it bothered me. But it illustrates the fact that TBP is nothing more than a giant joke. I participate in it because it's sometimes funny, but it doesn't represent my worldview, my serious thoughts. TRP is a worldview and subscribers post almost exclusively serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 04:02 AM
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I don't even care that I'm banned for what I consider innocuous statements. I care that I asked the mods why and they never replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 03:53 AM
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Now consider it from the point of view of somebody who has tried a lot of different things and has had zero luck with getting a date. High school me. Awkward, unattractive, and lonely. My strategy back then was to cry a lot. I'm not saying I can't understand someone thinking of it strategically, I just never did because I give up easily. I assumed I was hopeless and stopped trying. Obviously, trying different things is the better approach. Although I guess finding out how to make myself attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:25 PM
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Are blue pillers really denying this reality that is so very vivid and real for men? No. Many men don't get as much sex as they want. Some women don't get as much sex as they want either. I don't have as many kittens as I want. As the Rolling Stones would say: You can't always get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:09 PM
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Maybe, but I was able to get dates when I was single and if anything's changed in the past couple of years it's that I've become a more agreeable person. Or by not working, do you mean I couldn't get dates at all? I guess I would reconsider my strategy. I don't know that I would think too much about it, because I don't think about dates strategically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:03 PM
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Yes. I'm not currently out looking to attract new people, I'm in an LTR. But I attracted my SO and that's acceptable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 05:43 PM
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Sure. Mine is: be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 05:30 PM
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Because if you never express your own wants they will rarely, if ever, be met. So you will be unhappy being neglected. You will also likely resent the fact that you bend over backwards to help other people while they do nothing to help you(because you never ask). And it encourages passive-aggression. Your desires will find a way to come out, but they'll come out in indirect ways, which most people find annoying. And because you can't please everyone, no matter how hard you try. I'm a chronic peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 04:51 AM
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We can't have a definitive theory, no. And I don't have an even somewhat reliable theory, because I am one person living my life not a genius sociologist capable of creating such theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 03:15 AM
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This correlation is probably only found in women because more intelligent women are better able to comprehend their potential beyond an oppressed 'housewife'. I don't think that's true. It's found in men and women IIRC. The whole world sucks and if your intelligent, you see it all and you have to think about it. You also tend to be more introspective, and thus have to sit and think about your own imperfection. Ignorance truly is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 03:01 AM
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You're equating blue pill with feminist, and not just that a particular brand of feminist, something that is consistently done by red pillers. For a sub that claims we just "don't understand TRP", it's pretty ridiculous to turn around and say "you all believe in the Patriarchy, I am taking that as true, so explain this to me in terms of the Patriarchy". No. Here is my explanation for the prevalence of female on male partner violence: women can more easily get away with hitting their partner. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 02:42 AM
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No, we're not all unique, just absurdly complex. I take the approach that we're all complicated as fuck and nobody understands anything about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 02:34 AM
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My affirmative theory on sexual dynamics? People are way too complicated to be put into a theory like that. Don't over think it, it's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 02:18 AM
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She says I oppress women Then why is she dating you? "Omg you are really naive and oblivious you are gonna go down an alley and get raped". That's a pretty naive sentiment, actually. Sexual clothing is not proven to have any correlation to rape, and it's unlikely to provoke it, especially if you're talking stranger-in-an-alley rape. The stranger in the alley is likely to go after a girl who looks vulnerable, regardless of her clothes. So, I ask you, am I sexist towards women like my girl thinks …
/r/MensRights20/12/13 01:54 AM
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NPR?
/r/MensRights20/12/13 01:46 AM
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Battered Person Syndrome[1] is the basis for the Battered Woman Defense According to this article Battered Man Defense is also a thing. I've seen it referred to as the "battered spouse defense" as well. It may not be as common for men to make use of it, but it's possible.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 01:42 AM
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I practically peed at this comment: I think I’d just go, ‘ahh, fuck my penis, I gotta take a PISS’. I had my boyfriend go through the whole thing. Now every time he does something weird I can just shake my head and say "classic beta".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 02:46 AM
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Here it is. It's essentially a Cosmo quiz, pretty amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:18 AM
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The extreme bitterness, which is accepted and seen as a normal reaction to "the truth". Going along with the bitterness, the doom and gloom blue tinted glasses they all wear. They see hating the world as a healthy, desirable attitude to have. Despite hating the world, they don't give enough of a fuck to change it. Unlike MRA's they aren't interested in social action, they're in it for themselves. Which makes their complaints about modern society that much more grating. 2edgy4u stuff. It's not ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:05 AM
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You're choices aren't arguing or just nodding your head in agreement. You can talk through disagreements without it turning into an exhausting fight. And if you get tired of communicating, you probably shouldn't be in a relationship, romantic or otherwise. That's just how you people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 10:45 PM
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the husband was instructed to “agree with his wife’s every opinion and request without complaint,” and to continue doing so “even if he believed the female participant was wrong,” This isn't blue pill theory. Blue pill theory does not tell you to bow to your woman's every demand or suffer in silence. Blue pill encourages compromise, not complete denial of your needs. It tells you to communicate honestly, and saying "oh you're right honey" while secretly thinking "you are so fucking wrong!!!!" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 09:55 PM
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they are happier than ever before Where did you get that from? Did he do a follow up or comment in some way that things worked out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:11 AM
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They couldn't fathom that I could hold my experience higher than their solipsistic statistical analysis. How does this make one iota of sense? By definition, personal experience is far more solipsistic than statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:01 AM
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It really doesn't matter if it's anecdotal. The statement was "it will leave no lasting resentment". A single anecdote can prove that false. There is at least a risk that it will leave some serious resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 06:19 PM
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Thanks =]
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 04:40 AM
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There will be times where you will want to relax. Yeah, that's why we share the burden of moving us forward. And part of moving us forward involves maintaining "high value", basically continuing to strive toward the best possible versions of ourselves. I think women, in general, are not comfortable with deconstructing the magical parts of relationships. People have a hard time with this, not just women. I am highly introspective though. I know the inner workings of myself, if nothing else; I spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 04:23 AM
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That could be a passionate kiss, a hug, a tease, etc., when you least expect it. That feeling that emotions spiking under your skin, or the edges of your hair is what I mean. That's not devouring though, that's just expressing passion and desire. You don't need TRP for that. I mentioned being shocked by my love regularly: do you think I just sit there and shrug it off? No, I reach over and kiss or hug my SO with passion. He should take you in your sleep. The rest were normal. This is...weird. Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 03:18 AM
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primal sexual urges Oh don't worry, there's plenty of that too. A man must ravish, devour, assail his woman so she knows that even in his darkest desires he loves her, she loves him from her gut. Meh. Rough sex is fun and all but it doesn't feel like love, it's just something to do to mix it up. That's why they call it fucking and not making love. That takes a "real" man to do Ew, could you not? My SO is a real man, thank you, even if he doesn't "devour" me. I would know. Caring for someone is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 02:06 AM
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And people wonder why anti-depressant use has skyrocketed Anti-depressant use arguably hasn't skyrocketed because depression has, but because depression is recognized more and the stigma against medication has been lifted greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 01:51 AM
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Being feminist doesn't mean you have to be a masculine woman or a feminine man as far as I know...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 01:35 AM
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When my SO cuddles up to me, when he does something sweet, sometimes when he just sits there, I'm shocked by the realization of how much I love him. Genuine blue pill actions illicit a much more powerful response from me than TRP game does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 01:32 AM
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Sometimes your woman needs be shocked with depth of love for her, and you just can't do that with TBP. Sure you can. I'm shocked with the depth of my love on a semi-daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:44 PM
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But here's an important difference: if you're a man and you enjoy the masculine role and desire a woman who enjoys the feminine role, blue pillers hate you. They say you're a misogynist. You're a caveman. Over in /r/thebluepill I once saw someone claim that we also want to own slaves. Did the own slaves thing have to do with gender roles or...? I'm not sure this is the majority view though. I am a blue piller and I take on many aspects of the traditional female role, and hope to be a stay at hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:41 PM
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That no lasting resentment stuff is nonsense. Corporal punishment absolutely soured my relationship with my mother. Not only that, my mother suffers a lot of guilt over hitting my siblings and I and literally bursts into tears if the subject is broached. Which it is, because I resent her for it. As for harmony and respect, that was thrown out the window too. I've been in two romantic relationships that involved corporal punishment as well, and resentment and coldness were characteristics of both…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 04:18 AM
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Good, well then it's that easy: don't do it. You might be missing out on opportunities for sex, but you're also missing out on opportunities for free stuff you want by not stealing. And you won't miss out on all the sex, there's plenty to go around for people who don't play asshole game. Go out a lot. Like others in this thread have said, it's mostly a numbers game, so talk to as many women as you can. And have fun. If you're laughing and having a good time, other people will be drawn to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 07:09 PM
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Plato calls this the Noble Lie. There's a positive side to morality based on myths, but in the end it comes down to indoctrination. Imo, if you can't teach your children morals without spinning huge stories, then maybe you don't have a strong enough sense of morality.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 08:06 AM
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I don't remember any difference when I went on BC, but then I was already overly emotional to the point of pathology, so I'm not sure I would notice a slight hormonal fluctuation. I also don't have much in the way of PMS symptoms, so I can't relate to that problem either. While there may be something biological that causes women to be more emotional/social, I think the big reasons that women are seen as more emotional are 1) women are allowed and even encouraged to freely express a wide range of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 06:17 AM
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There was a buzzword for that but now I've forgotten it. Click bait
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 12:47 AM
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This can't be true, simply because it's required/expected for men to take the first step If you're attractive enough, women will approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 11:46 PM
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Redpillians are like, trying to compensate for years of pedestalization. I don't think so. What they're doing is falling into the trap that years of pedestalization led them into. Pedestalization feeds into black and white thinking: you are either the wonderful godlike person I thought you were or you're literally Hitler. You're either a soft, delicate princess or a cum-guzzling whore. People who pedestalize swing rapidly between excessive love and excessive hate. So TRP isn't trying to compensa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 10:59 PM
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Pedestalizing people is a maladaptive trait and in it's extreme, it is a characteristic of mental illness. For one thing, you fall into the manic pixie dream girl trap, where you don't actually love the person, you love the ideal image you have in their head. Second, when they prove to be human and not that ideal, you quickly go from hero worship to hate because they're not the person you thought they were. Lastly, you're probably falling all over yourself to do things for this person you see as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 10:55 PM
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The part where no one commented and said "hey that's fucked up".
/r/MensRights14/12/13 09:57 PM
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It feels so fake but I can kind of see it being real. It is typical of the abuser mentality to think that it was the victim's fault for making you hurt them. The part that strikes me is that no one said "hey, if you're beating up your partner, you're not the one who deserves to be treated better".
/r/MensRights14/12/13 09:54 PM
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Problematic has to have a good persuasive explanation of why everyone should recognize this as problematic in order to be effective. So if you're just throwing the word around with no convincing argument, yeah no one is going to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:55 PM
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I'm subbed to r/sexpositive, r/sex, etc. Well both of those communities are obviously going to attract the type of people who love sex enough to talk about on the internet a bunch and thus probably have a lot of sex. Sex positive sees sex as a good thing in every context so they're not going to see promiscuity as bad. So I think those communities are skewing your perception as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:48 PM
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Is it completely unreasonable to hope to marry a girl who didn't develop those habits? You can chose who you want to marry based on any criteria you feel is important. I saw from your comments on this thread that you hold yourself to the same standard, so of course it's not unreasonable for you to want to settle down with someone who shares your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:44 PM
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A woman can basically get by ok with less than optimal levels of confidence, she just needs to be attractive. And therein lies the problem. I would hazard that good looking guys could get on with sub-optimal confidence as well. But when you're already unattractive and thus lack confidence...well you're pretty much fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:32 PM
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As long as they're above the age of consent and consenting, idgaf. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:30 PM
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Women can passively sit around waiting for a guy to ask them out Whoever told you that was never a self conscious socially awkward girl. They are immediately validated when he does so Only if they base their self worth on the amount of guys who express any interest in them whatsoever, in which case they're probably not very confident. They very rarely ask men out directly, which actually requires real confidence. Putting yourself out there requires a different sort of confidence, but confidence …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:26 PM
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No one wants to hear that they are unattractive, and all the women on reddit going around telling them that confidence is attractive while they aren't confident feels an awful lot like a fat person hearing that being thin is attractive. I feel that, honestly. Women get told men want an confident woman as well. I can remember people telling me that and thinking "I'm not confident because I feel like I'm unattractive. And now you're telling me this lack of confidence is one more thing making me mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:22 PM
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No one has ever had a problem with the self improvement aspect of TRP as far as I know. In fact, many people point to that as the only good part of TRP: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qfr3m/stopped_clocks_whats_the_most_reasonable_part_of/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:18 PM
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Going to preface this by saying I'm a woman, in case that matters to my advice. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a beta type guy getting laid a lot. What do you mean by getting laid a lot? The beta type guys I know have been able to score a ONS or two, but they tend to prefer LTRs. So are these guys trying to have sex and failing or are they just looking for something else? I've seen guys displaying RP attributes getting laid a lot. I won't argue with this. Do confident and assertive guys g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:14 PM
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Aren't those traits attractive and beneficial to everyone, male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 06:13 AM
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What the hell is transfat???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 05:33 PM
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Edit: Deleted this because reasons. I don't like the policy and I don't think what happened in the example is comparable to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 01:18 AM
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They're saying the Church should let women be priests because that would solve the molestation problem, which is ridiculous. The Church should let women be priests, imo, but for entirely different reasons. They should let priests marry and get better oversight if they want to stop attracting pedophiles to the priesthood.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 05:02 PM
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Yeah no problem. When I started redditing it was to learn more about the MRM, so I have some understanding and appreciation of men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 04:34 AM
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Relevant
/r/MensRights11/12/13 04:10 AM
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even though the chance of a female priest sexually abusing kids is about as close to zero as you can get That doesn't even make any sense. Why?
/r/MensRights11/12/13 03:55 AM
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The first part sounds reasonable. I question the validity of the girl's response, it seems a bit exaggerated, but what do I know? I wasn't there. However, being clear about your needs in a relationship and communicating them to your partner is essential for a happy relationship. Although I'm curious "tried the talking shit that guy did", what was he talking about if not his sexual needs? The second part doesn't sit quite right with me. I would never tell my SO "you have to stop wearing jeans and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/13 02:44 AM
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I think it's practically impossible to avoid doing things that will lead to someone else being hurt. I can almost guarantee someone was hurt in the process of making the clothes you wear and the food you eat. If I convince someone to give me a job, I just hurt another candidate by taking that job away from. There was another girl who was interested in my boyfriend when we started dating, should I not have made it exclusive because I hurt her? You're never going to get anywhere if you don't hurt …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/13 06:23 PM
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Just turning my head would be selfish and potentially dangerous. I suppose so, but I don't feel like it would be welcome for me to tell an SO if I wasn't already close friends with them. I don't like getting between couples and I don't feel like I should, even in these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/13 06:04 PM
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If you knew someone's SO was cheating on them(not with you, someone else), do you have a responsibility to tell the SO? Or is it only when you're the one they're cheating with? In both cases, I say it's not really your place unless you're close friends with the SO. And if you're close friends with the SO then I think it's wrong to sleep with their partner because you're betraying the trust within your friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:56 PM
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Yes, they aided in harm to another person. That's not great. But what is the person really hurt by? They're hurt most by their partner breaking trust, betraying them, and essentially saying "you're not enough". The other person involved is allowing the cheater to hurt their partner, but ultimately it is the cheater who is doing the hurting. So I still think they are the one morally failing the most and causing the most harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 06:20 AM
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Sure, obviously they still helped cause harm. I just think the majority of the harm was caused by the cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 06:07 AM
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Though the mistress/male-version-of-a-mistress (is there a word for that?) has not made any promises or commitments to anyone else, their willing participation in an affair indicates that they hold the same morals and values as the unfaithful partner. Bluepiller here. I don't believe that's true at all. They have no obligation to stay faithful to someone else's SO. They are single, they're not really doing anything wrong by having relations with anyone. They are not breaking any promises or dest…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:16 AM
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Unless you're partner is just going along with what you say despite what they want, no. You will never find someone who agrees with you on absolutely everything. If you disagree on where to eat for dinner, do you immediately break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 07:02 PM
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Yes, I understand. The problem is it's leaving out some key factors about the slut walk: one is that you are not actually much safer from rape if you dress conservatively, not in the way that a child would be safer not talking to strangers. Dressing conservatively is not "taking a precaution". The other is that the victim blaming blames victims after the fact, rather than advising safety beforehand. "If she didn't want to be raped, she shouldn't have worn that outfit". This nuance may be lost in…
/r/MensRights08/12/13 06:21 PM
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I think it's the fact that she says "I don't know why I'm with you", which has a passive aggressive hint that she might leave, although she probably has no intention of leaving(dread game). Also, bringing all this up in a heated argument is an inappropriate way to tell your partner that they've changed in ways you don't like. Resentment is understandable and probably normal, but acting out on that resentment is not the best way to go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 07:44 AM
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See. I don't get why everyone keeps claiming compromise is a great thing. Because you will never ever find a partner if you're looking for someone who always agrees with you in every regard. You have to compromise at least a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 07:41 AM
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That second comment is a popular quote that anti-feminists use to show feminism is a hate movement. Copy and paste the quote into google, it's on AVfM, Men's Rights Edmonton, and several other MRA sites. Also one anti-TERF site. It's attributed to "Mary Syrett, feminist, writer & member of the City of Kingston Arts Council in Ontario, Canada." She apparently goes under the username Mary Sunshine. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 03:50 AM
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Well, we do tell cars to stop hitting kids. There are signs and different speed limits in school zones and residential areas for this reason. There are campaigns that encourage drivers to slow down and illustrate the difference between hitting a kid at 15 mph and hitting a kid at 30 mph. We very much actively tell drivers to watch for children. We also are wary about strangers around children. Parents tell strangers to keep a distance from children all the time. We tell strangers who offer kids …
/r/MensRights08/12/13 12:37 AM
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If someone else has a big say in what you do, how are you leading them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 09:49 PM
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Actually, it's the other way around. Men often think they lead in relationships. One of the things that the manosphere has brought to light that I actually agree with is that this is a common delusion. Men may be the breadwinners and figurehead leader, but usually the woman is behind the scenes calling the shots and spending the money. TRP sees this as a horrible perversion of society, but even they admit it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:41 PM
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At the same time as a PUA group is scheduled to be there? With the exact same lines? I suppose it's possible, but I'm doubting that there's no connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:38 PM
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Did you read this? It wasn't one incident, it was three, and all three of them opened with calling the girl beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:30 PM
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Toronto Pick Up Artists (850+ PUAs) Eaton Centre, Queen Street Entrance Price: CAD5.00/per person That's not confirmation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:23 PM
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That's not what PUAs teach. That's what this particular PUA group in Toronto teaches: A few weeks ago, I was in the area in front of Forever 21 when a man approached me. Very boldly he said "you're so beautiful, where are you going today? What's your name? I'd like to get to know you more, can we shop together?" ...Fast forward to today. I'm in the same area as before, in front of Forever 21 when another man approaches me. And he has the same little speech! "Hi beautiful, where are you going tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 07:38 PM
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As in from the PUAs standpoint, I don't care if I'm annoying to you, this is very important for my personal development. Yeah, that's kind of the problem though. Fine, annoying people isn't a huge deal. However, you're hardly learning people skills if you're mindset is "I don't care if I make you uncomfortable, talk to me anyway because I want to". There are some girls that genuinely do want guys approaching them. Demonizing cold approaches are gonna make things even worse for women that would l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 07:32 PM
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I made my position pretty clear and consistent, but ok. I take comparisons to the trickster as a compliment.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:14 PM
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I suppose I find it laughable to suggest most lesbians are lesbians because they are fat, which is what the quote suggests. Purely anecdotal, but I find that a lot of lesbians are hardcore feminists against fat shaming and make no effort to be thin because they see thin as a beauty standard rather than a health issue. My sister and her girlfriend, on the other hand, are not into that whole line of thinking, and both are making a concerted effort to lose weight and get in shape. So perhaps it's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 02:28 AM
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Personally, I think that human sexuality is fluid. The article states: Men have some fluidity too, just not as much While this may be observably true, I think it has to do with the social environment in which women are encouraged to be sexually fluid and explore same-sex relations and homosexuality for men is more demonized. Also, the fact that women can switch between hetero and homo sexual relationships does not make the idea that lesbians are lesbians because they are fat any less laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 02:11 AM
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In my limited experience if you just talk to your girl about the lack of sex then it turns it into an obligation. It's a tricky situation, to be sure. For my SO and I, it made sex a huge anxiety provoking thing for both of us and even after our sex drives started lining up more we were tip-toeing around each other. But I prefer polite and nice to the alternative because I've been on the other side of the alternative and found it awful. I personally would rather run dread game on my wife then fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I see a lot of things on TBP that make me cringe, honestly. I like it for what it is, satire and cheap amusement. It doesn't always have great ethics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:16 PM
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22 and not much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming I know the way relationships should work, just that every relationship can't possibly fit your mold because mine and my parent's do not and both are happy relationships as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:14 PM
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I don't know how it is for most people, but it works better for me. I'm lazy when left to my own devices, so I function better when I have to lead by example to my equally lazy boyfriend. I don't know that I'd say we're not equal though. His opinions, concerns, etc. are just as important as mine and I don't dictate anything, I'm just the one kicking our asses into gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 06:07 AM
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Over the next few weeks, I came to a realisation that all relationships are the same, the guy has to step up on his "game" and keep an eye on the attraction level, and it is THE GUY'S responsibility for that. Your flaw here is believing that what works for you will work for everyone. I believe that's referred to as "solipsism" on TRP. I will say that some of the tactics you listed worked for me in my relationship. I was less...aggressive about things, but I communicated my sexual needs more clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:48 AM
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I'm going to go through three of these because I think they most relate to RP vs. BP. Numbers 3 and 5 are things BPers dislike about RP relationships and 4 is something RPers dislike about BP relationships, imo. Holding the Relationship Hostage What It Is: When one person has a simple criticism or complaint and blackmails the other person by threatening the commitment of the relationship as a whole. For instance, if someone feels like you’ve been cold to them, instead of saying, “I feel like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:39 AM
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We were discussing whether MGM is comparable to FGM. The user I was debating with insisted that MGM was not worth talking about as important because FGM was worse. It reminded me of people who dismiss non violent rape because it's not as bad. I have no problem saying that I would prefer non violent rape, but non violent rape is still bad. And, as I'll explain further down, can be just as bad for a victim as violent rape is for a different victim. Non violent rape, MGM, etc., they're not somethin…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 02:52 AM
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That's a statement of fact. She did ask where. That isn't even close excuse. Just ftr, she obviously meant "where did I say that" to illustrate that she did not say it at all. That's a pretty thing to say because then the other person has to recognize that it was unsolicited.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 02:33 AM
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I agree that nobody should have mocked him for wanting to leave someone who couldn't meet his needs. Personally, I think he macho'd it up to look good on TRP and he didn't need to tell his wife that other people want to fuck him because that's only meant to make her feel badly imo, so I would be ok with mocking that. But telling her he needs sex or he needs to leave is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 02:11 AM
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he is still mocked in TBP for threatening to leave The top comment on TBP about the thread were the guy didn't have sex for a year and wanted to leave: when you boil off all the redpill nonsense, this guy basically says "I want to have more sex than we are currently having and I believe that sex is an important aspect of a relationship," which is a totally fair sentiment as well as a pretty simple feeling to express to one's partner. And there are others defending this guys decision to leave: I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 02:05 AM
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...but aren't blue pillers feminists? What is r/bluepill's relationship to feminism? From my understanding, most people on TBP are feminists. However, I know at least two users and myself frequent MR.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 12:53 AM
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Objectively, yes. And unless by "rape is rape" they just mean "all rape is bad", then yes I would disagree. Not all rape is created equal.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 12:22 AM
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Which one? I take the OED as the authority. Edit: Also, what definition of "hatred" does it give? Is prejudice in that definition?
/r/MensRights06/12/13 12:18 AM
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That's fine, although I would like to point out that the etymology of many words haven't exactly matched their actual use in centuries and that the current definition of misogyny is at the very least a modern application. If you want to oppose that, oppose away. But the common use and dictionary definition is unacceptable to you and thus you are fighting an uphill battle.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:46 PM
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That's how the dictionary uses it. No, it's not. Arguably the most trusted and reliable English dictionary is the OED. It's definition of misogyny is not limited to hatred and includes dislike: Misogyny: noun [mass noun] dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women The current accepted use of misogyny in culture and in the dictionary is hatred or dislike of women. You can offer a counter with citations or just keep saying "troll, lalalalala I can't hear you".
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:32 PM
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I meant all types of rape sorry. So I think rape is typically motivated by something other than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 04:21 PM
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Misandry and misogyny in their strongest application imply hatred, but neither require it. Dislike of men or women/sexism fall under misandry and misogyny. That said, they're both overused terms.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:11 AM
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I believe all rape is typically motivated primarily by something other than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 03:41 AM
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I'm not sure what the point of these questions is but: I don't know, what do feminists believe? Often sex is not the motivating factor, yes. At the very least there is added pain involved in violent rape, obviously. In terms of the law? No, legally certain types of rape are a worse crime than others and I agree that it should be that way. In terms of trauma? How could you possibly decide that and what is the point of doing so?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 03:37 AM
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My opinion is to ask if she wants another date and see how it goes because that's not decidedly a sign that you're out of the running. It's possible that she's just shy or that she doesn't like that kind of intimacy on the first date. It doesn't necessarily have to do with you. Also, I didn't even know askTBP existed, we should bring some life to it. I think people usually bring their questions straight to TBP, but that's not the best idea if you want serious advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 02:19 AM
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It's not. Ask away. But trauma can't be qualified and it's thoughtless to tell someone traumatized that it could have been worse. It can always be worse. That doesn't mean that it isn't still bad. Edit: And I think you're forgetting that you're pushing aside male rape victims, who already struggle enough to have their experiences validated, in order to stick it to the feminists.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:31 AM
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Are we in a competition to see who has THE worst life? What does the winner get? A bucket full of pity? If you lose, are you banned from feeling bad about what's happened to you because you're not the most miserable person on the planet? I think rape is worse than failing a test, but if you feel awful about failing a test I'm not going to say "why are you so upset, you could have been raped!" There are better ways to go about this than saying "this horrible thing is worse than that horrible thin…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 06:43 PM
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Because the plan isn't to have sex. Often it's to humiliate and overpower the victim in the worst way possible. It just happens that this involves a sex act. But not because they want the sex act, because they want x,y,z. A sexual strategy is motivated by a desire for sexual gratification. Often, rapists don't want and can't get sexual gratification from sex. That's not their desire. Are there times when rape is a sexual strategy? Probably. But the majority of cases, it is not because sex isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 04:51 PM
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Yes, there are ulterior motives But it's not ulterior motives. In most cases it is the motive. Having sex isn't even a consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 04:38 PM
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Rape isn't sex. It's rape. The intention of most rapists is not to have sex with their victims, it's to rape them and that is vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 04:18 PM
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Seems to me like you judge men and women by very different standards; I'm not sure if that makes you sexist against men, sexist against women, or both. Are you accusing mrsamsa specifically? Do you have any evidence that he would judge the reverse situation differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 04:15 PM
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As I mentioned in TBP, I not only think that this punishment was an overreaction, I also think that it could have some pretty harmful consequences. First, I don't think anyone reading those messages fails to come away with the idea that orange is lonely and unstable and a little desperate for attention. He has one friend, blue. He is still talking about a girl he briefly dated four years ago because he hasn't met a girl he likes/who likes him since. When blue punishes him, he reacts in desperati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 02:55 AM
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people's reactions to the OP being antifeminist That I will say is pretty typical of TBP. I think I get a better reaction because I'm a woman and I post there often, but I get push-back if I mention my thoughts on feminism there. However, it's pretty normal for feminists to be against anti-feminists and I don't think most feminists are radfems/SRS/tumblr feminists. certain users saying that the guy using PUA tactics is worse than the actual cheating by the girlfriend, I only saw one user say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 02:42 AM
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I don't think most blue pillers are SRS or radfems. I could be wrong, but most people I see on TBP don't think anyone, man or woman, should actively pursue people in relationships and try to "steal" them away from their SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 02:23 AM
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Default should be 0, not -10. If you start out as -10, maybe you should be hanging out with different groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 11:40 PM
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In the same vein, I can't force poor dental hygiene on someone. But people are malleable. If I tell them it's ok to have bad teeth, they're more likely to go along. TRP isn't renting ad space to tell girls to slut it up No, but they do have quite the push-pull wrt slut shaming. Some say you should slut shame. Some say that you should tell women not to feel ashamed for casual sex because that way you'll get more of it. It's the people actively telling women not to be ashamed of their sexuality th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 04:59 AM
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It's not just that they're not being "fair", they're actively lowering the amount of unicorns by playing into hookup culture. They're hurting their own chances of finding a girl with a low partner count because they've been out seducing everyone, pushing past LMR(which is often explained by a woman's fear of being a slut), etc. It's like if I were a dentist and I really wanted everyone to have great oral hygiene but lived in a culture where oral hygiene was poor. So fuck it, in order to get busi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 02:33 AM
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And women who do that are hypocritical if they expect a stable guy to not have partied when he was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 02:16 AM
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Again, we don't care about what's fair, just that you play to win the game. This statement, to me, has strong associations with solipsism/narcissism. It's basically how I live my life, and when I try to explain my solipsistic view point to others I often use "life's a video game" as a method. It's not that I don't believe people are real in the sense that they have an affect on me. They're real, but they're not real in the same way I am. It's like everyone is a video game character and I'm an av…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 02:15 AM
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I think many guys who get into pick up artistry were unsuccessful with women, actually. These guys aren't complaining about striking out when asking for dates(not always anyway), they're complaining about striking out when looking for one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 11:43 PM
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I don't mean after they learn game, I mean the fact that they struggle to succeed sexually whereas women can get casual sex on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 11:01 PM
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Literally nobody is going to disagree with that as a belief. Maybe no one will disagree that it's hypocritical, but TRP does both bemoan a lack of casual sex and bemoan a lack of women who aren't sluts. Which is why crackheadhamster phrased it not as, "I believe" but as, "you guys are stoopid." It was a hostile and poorly worded question, but it's not hard to get at the belief behind it. And that belief has nothing to do with Crackhead's views on promiscuity, because promiscuity isn't the real i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 10:49 PM
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The problem is that TRP is having casual sex with all the women they can and, when they're ready to settle down, seem confused that they can't find a high value woman with a low partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 10:42 PM
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I think the women-bashing posts are useful to hammer it into a newbie that when you do stumble upon a wonderful woman, there's no guarantee she wont ruin your life Would you have the same opinion of a sub for women that bashed men in order to ensure women were always wary of men and didn't enter into relationships with men who might ruin their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 10:40 PM
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It's too bad that you're too much of a coward to tell us what you believe. I'm pretty sure /u/CracheadHamster's stated and relevant belief on the topic is that it is hypocritical for men to want to sleep with high value women and bemoan the lack of casual sex available to them while simultaneously wanting to settle down with a high value woman who has a low partner count and bemoan the lack of girls with a low partner count. It wasn't a clearly stated point, but it was there. Also, insulting oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 10:36 PM
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Personally, I don't mind being woken up to sex with my SO. Similarly, my SO would not be displeased if he woke up to me having sex with him. But it's something we discussed before either of us tried it and that's the important part: communication. If you know you're partner would feel weird if you had sex with them while they were unconscious or you don't know how they would feel, it's probably best not to try it. While SoftHarem's scenario implies revenge against the girl for falling asleep, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 12:42 AM
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Maybe I missed it, but where did it suggest the husband made her? They mentioned that she lied to the husband about the baby's whereabouts, thus ruling out the idea that her husband encouraged her to kill her child. And this statement seems to imply that with or without the husband she's murderous: Gerard Lopez, the president of the Institute of Victimology and legal expert at the Paris Court of Appeal, told 20minutes.fr: 'First and foremost, she wanted to save her marriage by killing her child.…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:16 AM
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It's a shame when a couple disagree on whether or not to have the baby and it can be very emotionally painful. I feel for the man. But ultimately it is and should be up to the woman if she wants to abort or not. Why? Because, as others on this thread have mentioned, the woman is the one giving up her body and her freedom to this baby. She could lose her job and her health. Is it entirely fair that a man might be willing to sacrifice those things in order to have a baby but can't? No. But that's …
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:19 PM
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Ew. This isn't /r/TheRedPill.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:09 PM
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I know this is several days late, but I wanted to respond. While I agree that, obviously, I can never fully understand the male experience I don't believe I lack empathy for it. I do my best to put myself in other people's shoes and I make more of an effort to understand opposing points of view than most people on the internet(not that that's saying much. As for the particular thread you mentioned, nothing I said was in contrast to the MRM or detracting from the male experience. If I said that I…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 10:46 AM
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however women often end up sacrificing physical attraction for other qualities in a marriage, so you could argue they sacrifice more (sexually) when they commit to marriage. You don't think men ever sacrifice beauty for a life partner that they will be able to live with forever and who they love? No, but its relevant. When two people have different sexual histories, this type of thing could come into play. I guess I'm confused as to why you're assuming different sexual histories when there was n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 06:50 AM
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I think it's immoral to lie about your sexual past. Hiding implies lying. If it's just something that never came up, it wouldn't be wrong but if you purposefully try to hide your past from your partner, yeah I think that's shitty. Do you have the right to know someone's sexual past? People have different opinions on this. Personally, I want to know my partner's history and I would be uncomfortable if they didn't want to tell me. They have the right to refuse to tell me, but I have the right to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 12:25 AM
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I would be thrilled to meet these non-RP users that you are talking about I think you're forgetting about them and focusing on the negative, the people who've put you down. Your experience of "non-RP" seems to be "aggressive people on TBP". Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like most non-RP people would be fine with your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 12:15 AM
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Settling down at a young age with a high income male often means forgoing sexual encounters with more sexually enticing mates. It means settling down at a young age. Would you be willing to do that? Not everyone wants a lot of sexual encounters--when you've got the best, who needs the rest? Some people just want to settle down and have lots of babies. I don't think that's a "bad deal", to me it's ideal. I don't think I am the vast minority either, or that it would be difficult to find someone li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 12:10 AM
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It's far and away the biggest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 11:59 PM
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No. I want to be a stay at home mom and I am BP. The problem the TRP sees is that this is very diffucult to find in Western society. Yeah, you're going to need a solid income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/13 07:16 AM
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Earned respect isn't the thing that bothers me. What bothers me is the assumption that most women don't deserve respect. I find that TRP will often take a handful of women who very much haven't earned respect and say "isn't this so typical of women? They're so entitled, they're worth no more than their vagina, and if you have an example of a worthy woman then take your NAWALT elsewhere". It's not that the default is "earn my respect" the default is "you don't deserve respect".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 06:27 PM
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but experience has shown me that CH is dead on here as far as beginning a relationship goes. I'm curious about the 2/3 rule. I just can't wrap my head around how or why that is ever a good idea to do to someone you love or plan on entering an LTR with. Since you seem to agree with this somewhat, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that point specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 07:32 AM
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This isn't about hurting the feelings of red pillers. I'm blue pill, but it bothers me when people blatantly ignore a sub's rules. If you want to post something that is against the rules, find another sub. This one was set up with the goal of being a neutral space. It's disrespectful to the mods and to the community to openly disregard that intention. Also, I don't think you're being more effective with your "straight talk". You can say "I find the posts advocating stealing another man's girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 04:16 AM
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Rule #4 Try to frame your questions with neutral language. "How do you think dogs should be trained?" is a much better way to start a conversation than "Why do you kick puppies?". Give your views in the comments--don't start the thread out by attacking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 02:58 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving! I'm thankful for my wonderful and rewarding job, but I'm also thankful I don't have to work tomorrow and therefore don't have to trek back home tonight. I'm thankful for my amazing boyfriend and for my best friend. And this time two years ago in the hospital so I'm thankful that I'm(mostly) better now and got to spend time with my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 01:18 AM
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Generally people committing suicide understand that it's not a healthy way to deal with problems. Not necessarily. Now, if you want to tell me that the article should have focused more on suicide prevention itself, less on rooting out a cause or laying blame, LOOK BACK UP AT THIS POST. I posted here after watching the slut-shaming of dead girls I'm replying to a specific quote you used in your post that I agreed with. I don't think it belongs on the list of posters slut shaming a dead girl and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 07:08 AM
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I don't believe for a second you are all truly offended or actually do anything to help real situations when your too busy cruising the internet looking for more victims of whatever. Well that's a deeply unfounded accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:33 AM
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Well then you disagree with the majority morals of society. We don't actually have a majority rules government when it comes to laws. Laws are typically voted in by representatives not the people as a whole. But yes, I disagree with some aspects of the legal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:15 AM
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I think it goes without saying that suicide is not "necessary." This article isn't being read by 4th graders. The issue is what pushed the girls to suicide, and that's what being discussed. I'm sorry, but I found that a bit distasteful. Do you have to have the mental capacity of a 4th grader to be suicidal and feel that suicide is your only way out? In any case, part of the problem is that these girls felt that suicide was their only option. Yes, there were other factors that led up to it. By al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:08 AM
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Actually, in a civil court of law, this absolutely would stand. If you got a psychiatrist to testify that the actions of you're boyfriend caused or exacerbated the mental illness, he could be liable to compensate you for significant medical and emotional damages. I can also sue McDonald's if their coffee is hot and they don't put a warning on the cup. That doesn't mean it's actually their fault that I don't know coffee is hot. Same thing goes for the subject of the thread. If there's a reasonabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 04:24 AM
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No, not the majority of the blame, not for their deaths at least. I'm sorry, you can't lay this on their shoulders. They did something awful, they were assholes but they didn't kill those girls. Well when the guys caused or exacerbated the mental illness... One time my boyfriend called me a cunt. It exacerbated my mental illness and I carved the word "cunt" into my leg. Was he to blame for me hurting myself? Most emphatically, he was not. It was rude and wrong of him to call me names, but how co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 02:50 AM
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The girls don't, but neither do the guys. No one makes you commit suicide. Yes, the guys did something awful and caused them distress, but you can't lay the blame on them or on revenge porn, when the cause is mental illness. I think that's what /u/-Anteros- is trying to say. The article is essentially saying that the evil "revenge pornographers" made these girls commit suicide which is neurotic and harmful. It is. No one forces you to hurt yourself, no matter what they've done to you. Unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 01:11 AM
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Bottom of the article: Exactly. Obligatory disclaimer at the very bottom of the article. No actual discussion of how suicide is not necessary in these situations in the body of the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 01:06 AM
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Like PhantomDream pointed out, several people on that thread offered sympathy for the girls, pointed out that revenge porn was wrong and a betrayal of trust, and that the whole situation had nothing to do with TRP. There were some disgusting comments but there were also RPers expressing disgust at those posts. I also think "Articles like this make it seem like suicide was a viable option, a complete disrespect to the people who actually struggle with it." is valid. They never really addressed th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 06:35 PM
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I've seen several: A Walk to Remember, any rendition of Romeo and Juliet, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, The Details, Accidents Happen, All Good Things, The Notebook. Don't know if Thor 2 counts or not, I wouldn't say the entire movie is about avenging her death, although it's mentioned as a motivating factor. I think the reason there aren't a lot of these movies is because main characters don't just die without being avenged in most movies, regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:58 PM
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with two exceptions (1) the entire movie is about revenging her death and (2) it's a horror movie. What about movies in which the woman dies a natural death? Is he only talking about violent death?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:47 PM
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Ok? I don't see how this is in any way relevant to men's rights.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:42 AM
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So, again, it's about changing behaviours in a digestable way by changing the person's frame of mind. If a woman needs to be told that the man she supposedly loves is simple minded, childlike, and lazy in order to digest any sort of information, she is not the kind of woman I want to hang out with. The same goes for TRP: if a man needs to be told that women are helpless and never mature beyond a teenager in order to digest some sort of information, no matter how constructive that information is,…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:19 AM
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That's fair. I wasn't aware of the full legal implications of her admission.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:53 AM
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You honestly don't see how that's inflammatory? There are plenty of non-RP subscribers that believe they have the truth as well. No, I don't see how it's inflammatory because it's true. The majority of TRP subscribers believe that those who have not taken the red pill are fools. The fact that the opposite side is guilty of the same means nothing. You were talking solely about TRP, claiming that they did not consider other relationship dynamics unhealthy, and my response was solely about TRP. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 12:37 AM
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She says she was aware that violence would come of it, but according to her, she feared her boyfriend and did not point out the alleged rapist willingly. Now I know that she made a lot of mistakes and I think she was criminally negligent. But we don't have enough information to say she got her boyfriend to murder a man for her.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:20 AM
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There's a difference between just telling someone, and then stalking the accused and pointing him out. Was her boyfriend just going to give the guy a stern talking to? According to her side of the story, she just told the boyfriend what happened. Then the boyfriend insisted that she point the guy out to him and she did because she feared the boyfriend(apparently rightly so, considering he hacked a guy up with a meat cleaver). We don't know that that wasn't the case
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:16 AM
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God, that's horrible. That kid should not have gone to prison, imo. But my problem is not with her facing charges for this, my problem is the title of this thread, which implies that she knowingly incited murder. We aren't certain that this was the case.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:12 AM
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Yeah, I don't think it's normal to expect any type of violence but maybe I'm wrong. If your sister/female relative told you she was raped and you believed it to be true, would you go out and hurt that guy? Was she responsible for that, should she have known? Can she not tell anyone what happened to her lest they inflict vigilante justice on her behalf?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:11 PM
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Your state sounds crazy.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:27 PM
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she admits to sending her boyfriend after this guy She admits to pointing the guy out after her boyfriend insisted that she do so.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:19 PM
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A woman can't scream rape, point the alleged rapist out to her boyfriend and then pretend that there was no way she could have foreseen violence. That isn't plausible. That's a ridiculous argument. You mean to tell me that every man is just waiting to hack up another man with a meat cleaver should any woman claim rape? Insane. Most men are not about to do that to anyone. I told my boyfriend I was raped and named my rapist and, amazingly, he isn't dead in a dumpster or beat up or anything of the …
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:16 PM
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I did not intend to aggravate and I'm not sure which part you thought was intentionally inflammatory. But TRP is an extremist group. Ask anyone who is aware of their existence what they think of the group, if it's extreme. The majority of people will say yes, it is. Does that mean everyone in the group is extreme or that some aren't more extreme than others? Of course not. Simply that the norm of the group is an extreme viewpoint. To claim that TRP is the ONLY* system of any kind that actually b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 05:09 PM
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What evidence do you have that she incited murder?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 04:54 PM
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For sure, and for all I know she did incite her boyfriend to murder. But it just irks me that people here tend to be oh so sure that an alleged female criminal is guilty, but an alleged male rapist? Eh, that's a definite maybe, who could know, hasn't been tried yet, could be innocent. Regardless of whether or not the DA has pressed charges.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:07 AM
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Evidence of a murder != evidence that she was part of a murder.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:35 AM
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We're not sure that she did anything of the sort though. Most people who tell their SO they were raped don't think "he'll probably kill my rapist for me!" Her account is that she told him about the rape and he became enraged, insisted she point the man out to him, and murdered him. We don't know whether or not that's true, but if it is there was no incitation to murder, but she was aware of the murder and stayed silent about it.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:16 AM
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"He says he thought she was consenting to sex. I hope you don't expect anyone in his position to say otherwise. His statement has exactly zero weight." Does that sound like an OK thing to say about an alleged rapist? No? Then why is it OK to say about any other alleged criminal?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:21 AM
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For all the people on this sub who are outraged when alleged rapists are called rapists(see: this thread) you would think that you wouldn't just assume that this woman is guilty despite the fact that she has not yet been tried. Innocent until proven guilty works both ways. According to her, her boyfriend forced her to point out her rapist and she wanted no part in it. We don't know that's not the case. Yes, she was wrong to not come forward about it, but you can't say "she got them to murder thi…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:19 AM
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I am an the alpha. And the omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 08:10 PM
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I don't know if it's legal, but it makes sense. If they have enough male trainers and the female gym members are asking for a female trainer than it's fair for them to go out looking for a female trainer.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:26 PM
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If most men are betas who would be happy in an egalitarian relationship, aren't they the horses?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 12:22 PM
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To view alternate dynamics as unhealthy comes from some of the more extreme members of the group I think. No, I'm pretty sure this is the norm of TRP. That makes sense, though, because TRP is an extremist group, therefore the majority of its members are extreme. An essential part of TRP is believing that their relationship dynamic is healthy, natural, and right and that everyone else is just socialized into unhealthy relationships. They have the Red Pill Truth and the rest of us are all just foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 12:20 PM
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if women knew that they couldn't trap a man this way, there would be far less cases of this. What makes you think that? I don't think it would mean more women would have an abortion, women who chose not to often do so for moral reasons and not at all for convenience. They're already giving up a lot in the pregnancy and even more raising the child. They're already willing to give up that much to keep their baby, I don't think a lack of income that may not have been much anyway would cchange their…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 06:21 PM
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Well, you said hand-in-hand. I figured you meant you can't be one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 06:30 AM
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If they go hand in hand, how do women like me exist? How can I have all the other feminine traits and not be submissive? I don't real?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 06:15 AM
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Don't do the sex things. You WILL get chlamydia and die.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 05:38 AM
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I'm feminine in pretty much every way(long hair, shave, feminine clothing, light makeup, cook, clean, etc.) but I don't submit to my partner. His relationship has nothing to do with being feminine, so your comment seems to come way out of left field.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 05:08 AM
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It's not that I don't know how the world works, I just think that we can and should do better. TRP is not simply saying "this is how people work", they are saying "this is how people work and I don't care about pushing them to be better, fuck it. Here's how we can take advantage of how people work". People do not always act in their best interest. It would be in my best interest not to spend so much time on my computer, on reddit, I should be out living my life; and yet, here I am. That's nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 03:30 AM
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I don't think this would be a good idea. I only see it going horribly wrong, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 02:07 AM
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What do you think will happen if a man who did have a child had a financial abortion? The cost would be foisted onto the state unless the woman gave up the child to abortion or adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/13 06:38 PM
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Why are they just going after this now? Have they gone after the boyfriend as well? What an interesting case.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 05:38 PM
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They could simply move along and go debate anywhere else. It's that thought process that says "well I know this is supposed to be about A but I'm going to talk about X." Yeah, I understand that. I don't really understand that thought process either and it's certainly rude, it just doesn't surprise me. It just disappoints me to be honest. I like to believe everyone can be good and selfless. I like to believe that any prejudice, bias, or belief can be set aside if the person really wants to. Sure.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 04:14 PM
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Look, I'm not trying to be mean but what did you expect? I am a strong believer in what you were trying to do and I like taking a moment to acknowledge the humanity of the other side. However you can't go into a group of people with strong animosity and internet anonymity and say "let's all be nice to each other" without anticipating some blow back. The thread was good. I respect your efforts. But you aren't honestly surprised, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 03:48 AM
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Some anecdotal evidence: My parents are in a relationship that would just baffle the mind of RP philosophers. They've been married 22 years and going strong. My mom is in charge of everything and my dad is happy to defer to her. My mom, while not unattractive, was never very good looking(sorry mom!) and had a child from a previous marriage. Her alpha game brought in a high value man though(my dad is wealthy) so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 02:59 AM
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There are definitely women who behave according to their innate preference My innate preferences are far from submissive. I instinctively prefer to manipulate and control, so if you try to bring me in line with my innate preference you're going to end up with a whole lot of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 02:45 AM
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Our women need to respect us. Our men need to respect us women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 02:39 AM
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TRP will either tell you that this is outlier behavior and thus not something they deal with(fair) or that it's unnatural and the man needs to swallow the red pill and stop being such a beta pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 06:47 PM
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Right well immediately your version fails because there is no link to attraction for men looking at women making sure they can hold babies properly Lol, what? Men don't look for women who will raise their offspring well?
/r/MensRights20/11/13 04:49 AM
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Did you know that International Women's Day coincides with International "Be Nasty" Day? As StiocSophist pointed out: There are only 365 days in a year, and thousands of "World X Day"s and "International Y Day"s and "Global Z Day"s. There's going to be shared days. Deal.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 01:27 AM
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Someone who behaves sexually in a way you disapprove. You never get a clear explanation of where the cutoff is because the cutoff is different for everyone. Everyone has a different opinion on how much sex is too much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:50 AM
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Classic example of ego investment overriding rational decision making. Yes, you made a bad investment, stop trying to defend it. The economy is in the tank and liberal arts majors are not in high demand. I do what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:47 AM
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Most of the manosphere will, at some point or another, make the claim that women go to college and get "worthless degrees". What are these worthless degrees? Humanities. What are the useful degrees? STEM. They will also generally tell you that the really important professions are unskilled blue collar jobs(because men work those jobs), while maintaining their pro-STEM elitist mentality. I have nothing against the STEM field. I'm naturally inclined to find my field more important(because it is, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:45 AM
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What kind of adult texts their SO for permission to have birthday cake? This is exactly the problem I see. She isn't acting like a grown-up. Maybe she feels safe and secure with /u/skinny_bitches, but it seems like she is far too dependent on him. What happens if they break up? She relies on him to feed her, how is she going to live on her own? Acting like a dependent child may feel secure for the time being, but it sure as hell is not going to feel like that once you're out on your own. The thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:24 AM
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Well you have to look at the bigger picture. Are all or most of the other conditions met? Are men expected to wield power and make decisions in society? Is having a female ruler going against the norm and an exception to the rule? If so, then you can still be in a patriarchy while having a female ruler. Royalty was given more power than the average person, male or female. Men being in positions of power is not always a manifestation of the patriarchy. However, if a society is patriarchal, it's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:16 AM
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Again, if it works for the two of you, fine, but I would find it far too controlling and it would definitely remind me of my days in the hospital. Personally, when I needed nutritional guidance I went to a nutritionist. She taught me how to make my own choices and be an adult rather than just give me food to eat so I don't have to worry about it. I preferred that approach. I guess I do nudge my SO in the direction of eat this, not that because he is trying to lose weight, but I don't try to dict…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:41 PM
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Also American/BP. But I'm not a huge fan of the American culture, so I'm not ruling out a culture clash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:31 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:27 PM
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I find that creepy controlling, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:18 PM
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I think the grievance policy is amazing. Possibly the best thing I have ever done in a relationship. It has really revolutionised her life for a start. There is no nagging. No rows. No shouting. No arguments. Just informed, calm, caring discussion. I am able to do this without a grievance policy. What the hell is wrong with that? Seriously? You didn't say you eat together at certain times out of habit, you said you sit her down and tell her that she has to eat a set time every day or not at all.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:11 PM
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The point you were making is that a lot of normal things happen in a mental institution, but you're wrong. Everything has a rigid set of rules. A grievance policy like the one you have is abnormal outside of school, prison, and mental institutions. Set meal times that someone else forces upon you are abnormal for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 03:39 PM
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It's hard to say what I like about TRP because I disagree with much of it personally and some of it I find outright distasteful. However there are a great deal of users that I have come to recognize and find very agreeable. You and /u/OccamsUsername are two such users, and there are certainly others. I think your SO is a good example of the type of RP man I would get along with. I've seen him defend the idea that a true RP man does not lash out in anger or violence, and he's respectful of other …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:59 AM
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I didn't mean something similar was said ITT, just that it makes sense to be offended by something because it applies to the group you belong to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:57 AM
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She says that she doesn't like baseless criticisms of her lifestyle, so "he is personally attacking me because he is attacking a group that I belong to" makes sense. If someone were to say "homosexual relationships are disgusting and wrong" would you consider it absurd for someone in a homosexual relationship to consider that a baseless attack on his or her lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:46 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qtlkm/bluepillers_if_im_happy_and_my_girl_is_happy_why/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:30 AM
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Internet discussions are like sugar. Even if you enjoy it, it's still kind of a waste. If you aren't enjoying it, then for fuck's sake, walk away. So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:27 AM
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I wouldn't say that. If all the other conditions I mentioned were in place but the country was ruled by a queen, I would still likely call it a patriarchy. I also think there are levels of patriarchy. It's a spectrum of absolute patriarchy to absolute matriarchy, with equality in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 01:57 AM
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Alright, we've got the issue of entailment. "An entail was a legal device used to prevent a landed property from being broken up, and/or from descending in a female line". Women could inherit their fathers money if and only if there were no male heirs in the family. And then once the woman who inherited the money had a son, it went straight to him. "Historically, the most important component of wealth was not wages, but inheritance". So if women couldn't inherit, they really didn't have money to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 01:33 AM
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Then why does anyone care about hypergamy at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:58 AM
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Exactly the same? No, but she is dressed in the Lolita style as well; imagine that, someone famous who's dressed to stand out from their entourage, in a recognizable way! It's not just the dress, look at the whole picture. Look at the first pictures that come up of her and her Asian entourage. They all have that same dollface makeup that she does not and they're posed to look like toys, not people. She pays Asians to follow her and make her look cool, because they are Asian. It's not normal. So …
/r/MensRights19/11/13 12:57 AM
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Oh do you also sit her down three times a day and tell her she can only eat during those times?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:00 AM
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I'm running off to work, so I'll source the well known fact that women were historically not allowed to own money or property later. Remind me, I'll forget. But I don't have to dismiss your source because it is talking about modern times and I never claimed that in modern times women did not control money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:46 PM
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I always understood hypergamy to be an alternative to monogamy, as in women cannot be faithful to one man because she is always looking for a man with higher social status. If that is proof of hypergamy, is it also proof that men cannot remain faithful to one women because they will always be looking for a more attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:45 PM
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Did you read the entirety of my post? For much of history, this definition of patriarchy applied to western culture. It is very much waning now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:04 PM
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Patriarchy has about 5,000 definitions these days. What kind of patriarchy are we talking about here? Edit: I'll add my own definition: in a patriarchy, men are the head of the household, they control the money and property, and they have all the political power. For much of history, this definition of patriarchy applied to western culture. It is very much waning now, but there are some remnants. For instance, what is your wife's last name? She may have chosen to keep her own, but chances are sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:07 PM
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unless we're talking about FOBs I was talking about Asians in Asia. That's the most bullshit example you possibly could have given, seriously, that Gwen Stefani likes Asian fashion? No. Is Gwen Stefani dressed the way her Asian girls are dressed? Does she have the doll face on? Or is she the independent white girl with an entourage of Asian girls that follow her everywhere? You took the idea that it was merely the fashion and ran with it, but it's not. It's the Asian person herself in that fashi…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 04:39 PM
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It was 4 years old. It gave me a good run, but I'm happier PC.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:55 AM
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If you want to prove that Asians are racist this isn't the way to do it: preferring to date within your race is universal. If you're trying to prove that Asian women are more racist in their dating preferences you would also be wrong, because white men prefer white and Hispanic women at a greater margin than Asian women prefer white and Asian men. Also, who is it that you think is creating this conspiracy on behalf of Asian women? Second, the historical stereotype of an Asian woman was that of a…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:54 AM
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I don't think it's racist to prefer a certain race. I was saying it's unfair to call Asians racist for preferring to date white and Asian men.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 03:27 AM
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I'm going to put in my 2 cents about Apple because reasons. It makes cheap accessories that break easily and are alarmingly expensive(see: Ipod earbuds, Macbook chargers). And it makes products that require unusual accessories, so you have to buy from Apple, rather than generics(display port instead of hdmi). they retain their value Eh. I could get at most $250 back for my Macbook, which cost somewhere around $1,500.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 03:26 AM
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Really? Wow that's a lot of money. It is, but "each and every woman" is a ridiculous and fallacious way to put it. Correctly, women on average spend $443 per year on cosmetics. Obviously, some women will spend thousands per year while some spend $20. Point remains that that's a high average, but things like this are why I don't like JB, she doesn't proofread and doesn't think before she writes. It sounds really stupid to say that the data suggests each and every woman spends exactly the same amo…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 02:50 AM
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I mentioned the fact that it didn't come out of nowhere not to defend it as a stereotype, but to point out that /u/errythangthizzin is probably incorrect in his assumption that it was a ploy to shame white men into having sex with white woman or that it was to distract from Asian women's racism. I can see how it looks like I'm defending the stereotype, but I'm just pointing out that the idea that some men like eastern women because they're more submissive isn't imaginary. If you go to /r/theredp…
/r/MensRights18/11/13 12:11 AM
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This is why you should be able to dictate how your alimony is spent.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:28 PM
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You're brother sounds like an asshole. So do you. Grow up.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:23 PM
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I think you're unfairly representing this study. While it's true that men don't seem to have a preference for Asian women, it is unfair to claim that Asian women are racist because they have a slight preference for Asian and white men. Most groups preferred their own race. If you look at the data, white men show a distaste for non-white non-hispanic women by a wider margin than Asian women have a distaste for non-Asian, non-white men. So are white men (even more) racist? Alternatively, perhaps t…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:12 PM
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The same could be said of the word slut: ask people on the street how they view the word slut and most people will say negative. Reclaiming a word doesn't take away the potential for it to be negative, nor does it revoke it's negative history. Also, I don't use it in a joking way because I spontaneously decided to do so, it's the way people in my age group and social circles tend to use it.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 10:52 PM
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You know what else Dana pointed out? That feminism tends to tell women who are happy in relationships feminists don't like that they're just confused and poisoned: the problem is that feminists and leftists believe there is such a thing as "false consciousness". if women give the appearance of being happy in an arrangement of which feminists dont approve, its only because they dont know any better and havent been enlightened by feminism. This is exactly what you are trying to say in the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:33 PM
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Sorry, let me clarify: happy in our relationship. Depression is an illness he is suffering from. If he had cancer he probably wouldn't be happy, but that doesn't mean our relationship would be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:21 PM
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I do accept that I might get things wrong on occasion, so once a week she is allowed to bring any grievance to me, and I'll consider it. This is literally how children in a mental institution are treated FTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:17 PM
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If I'm happy and my beta boyfriend is happy, why do you call him pathetic? Why do you insist he's not enough of a man and that I will cheat on him and he will deserve it because he is often to depressed to have sex with me?. Why do you care if we're happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:11 PM
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In my original comment I never guessed that some women hate men, it was a hypothetical. If I thought all men were rapists, then I would not publicly proclaim that offensive view on the internet without proof. It was meant as a counter-example to the OP which stated that the generalizations TRP made were acceptable(even though some are offensive). So I'm really confused about what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 08:45 PM
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There's billions of people in the world, so yes. I've never met someone who doesn't like Shakira's music, but I feel certain someone doesn't. What is this interrogation leading up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 08:32 PM
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Michael Jackson was often thought of as a creep. ...Michael Jackson probably molested children so I think that's a pretty well deserved title.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:31 PM
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incautiously expose themselves and others to pathogens, and experience unwanted pregnancies Actually, people who take virginity pledges are more likely to have unprotected sex, therefore more likely to get pregnant and get STDs. It's abstinence only programs and shaming people's sexuality that leads to that shit, not sexual people.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:23 PM
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My answer is that there is probably someone in the world who thinks all men are rapists but I have yet to meet them, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 08:15 PM
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Let me explain how wrong it is to even bring nigger into this discussion first. Slut and creep are not terms that even come close to nigger. Nigger is a word that was specifically designed as a slur for everyone even remotely black. A whole class of people, regardless of their behavior, thoughts, or moral code. Every black person was a fucking nigger. In contrast, "slut" is not universally applied to women: it is used as a derogatory term for women expressing sexuality in a way that society disa…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:12 PM
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Well sure, that's fine. But sleeping with a married man while single yourself is not as bad as cheating on the wife you vowed to stay faithful to.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:51 PM
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Probably someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 07:50 PM
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Based on what evidence? Sluts are incapable of loving children now? If she has money, she can make a good environment for the kid. She'll still be a single mother, but so will most of the other teen pregnants.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:46 PM
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How can you be sure that that's what people are laughing at though? The jokes are both set up to laugh at the victim, I don't think you can definitively say "well in the female victim one you're laughing because it's obviously sexist not because fuck women". You could defend any offensive joke that way. "They're not laughing at how stupid black people are! No, no, they're just laughing at the obvious racism, so it's ok". You could even make that argument for the OP joke. "No, we're not laughing …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:44 PM
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Maybe not in your society, but in my society/generation we all use creep jokingly.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:32 PM
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The reason I'm not engaging is because I have answered the question definitively and have no compulsion to validate such an absurd question by defending myself every time somebody feels like asking it. The thing is though, no one posed the question to you specifically. You came on this thread and engaged and then got mad when people talked about what the thread is clearly about. You could have easily avoided all this by not commenting on the thread entirely. If I asked, loki, can you prove you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 07:30 PM
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You're right, none of my friends or family members with whom I playfully use the term creep are male. I have never met a man, actually. /s Of course I myself did not reclaim the word. I hardly have that much influence. But it has been reclaimed in that it is often used the way slut is used--not seriously and laughed off. By men and women.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:56 AM
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Well, I think her behavior is wrong, but to be sure it is not her responsibility to keep him faithful. Unless she pursued him. Some blame rests on her, more on him.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:29 AM
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I'm not arguing that looking at a woman is rude. Or that approaching a woman and flirting with her or asking her for her number is rude. I'm saying that shouting "HEY BABE NICE TITS" is rude.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:19 AM
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No need to be snide. I read it to the end. How else could i quote the ending? I suspect you started commenting without doing that. The irony of the fact that you are telling me not to be snide when I pointed out you misunderstood something and in the same breath telling me for the fourth(?) time that I didn't actually read the article is astronomical. You kept refusing to answer whether you had read it. I told you that I accurately identified the main point of the argument and thus it was silly …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:13 AM
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"It's not even in the article" Look closely. She says women can deal with it that way. Not that they should. And that is a reference to the fact that women sometimes enjoy it though they may refuse to admit it. Do you deny this? It's pretty heavily implied that they should. And yes it refers to the fact that they sometimes appreciate attention from high status men. But she is suggesting that whether it is flattering or not, whether it is an appropriate comment or not, you should thank that man. …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:08 AM
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At the points you quote she is talking about women quit accurately. At other points she is taking about feminists. Did you not notice that. Yeah, I did, apparently you didn't: The point was not that women should be grateful for catcalls but that feminists are in denial that they sometimes enjoy them. Edit: Woman up is not going to work as a silencing term just like man up shouldn't. I'm not protesting anything, I am asserting my right to ignore someone being rude to me. I do not owe that catcall…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:01 AM
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It is, but to write a rant about how one way to deal with someone being rude to you is to say thank you is absurd. Imagine if someone told you one way to deal with a woman's entitlement was to thank her for it. Would you interpret that as "well, it's true, that is one way to deal with it" or would you say "um, that's a horrible way to deal with it, sorry I'm not going to just let people treat me any which way they please and thank them for it"? Yes, it's a way to deal with it. But it's a stupid …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:56 AM
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You know the quote I'm talking about because you already quoted it. There is a really easy way to deal with “street harassment” ladies. It will require you to consider the point of view of someone other than yourself. It will require you to envision the person talking to you as human. It will require you to envision a world in which what you want is NOT the governing principle. It will require you to acknowledge that other people exist and they have different motivations than you. “HEY BABY, NIC…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:53 AM
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Now you say "not entirely". They essentially mean the same thing. I cannot know the motivation behind the people catcalling, if it has to do with looks or not. But I do know that regardless of appearance, people get catcalled. Not sure how I owe you an explanation of why men catcall. It has always rather puzzled me too. You don't. But you made a claim that women have a stake in it and I asked you to explain that. The article claimed that this was because men are expected to do the approaching, b…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:51 AM
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You already did. And then edited your OP and told me the quote wasn't in the article...
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:38 AM
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It wouldn't annoy me as much if it wasn't the part that he specifically highlighted and said was so great. /u/HolySchmoly baffles me because sometimes he makes great comments and sometimes I feel like he's just trolling.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:37 AM
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The other part was correct. But you would have to read the whole thing to see that. But for a minor point, I accurately addressed the articles main point and you're still insisting that I just don't get it and haven't read it? You're focusing on the rest of the article's arguments to justify a silly argument made at the end. When I dismiss her final argument as silly, I am not saying "this is her entire point in the article and thus fuck this article", I am merely pointing out that one specific …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:26 AM
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What? Do some catcallers whistle at dressed up ladies because they're dressed nice, sure. Have I had people honk at me when I was wearing a McDonald's uniform? Yes. Catcalling is not, therefore, entirely about the appearance of a woman. And you haven't addressed why men are motivated to catcall? I honestly don't get it because most of the times I have experienced or witnessed catcalling it has been from out of a moving car.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:16 AM
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What do you mean it's not in the article? It's right there at the bottom. I take the point to be that women are contributing to a culture that encourages street harassment and yet blame men for it. I don't think it's well argued, but that's what she's trying to say.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:10 AM
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God I know this has to stop, but I will never agree with wankers who call me a terrorist or a nazi. Yeah? I get that, for sure. I just ignore people like that, because they are not the movement, they are angry people on the internet. Thanks for being nice. No problem. I hope you have a nice night =]
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:07 AM
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Sure, but I wouldn't dream of telling you how to cope with something you've experienced that I have not. Empathizing means putting the other person first and feeling their feelings, not telling them how to feel their feelings the way you think they should. Edit: So when people on here disagree with you, think about where they're coming from before you dismiss them and feel rejected.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:53 AM
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I don't expect you to coddle her, no. Edit: Idk how to words what I want to say, so I'm just going to leave it at that.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:41 AM
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Yes, I understand that you care about men and their issues. But ultimately, you and I cannot understand their suffering and frustrations.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:35 AM
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I understand. But it's a lesson in humility that I had to learn when I first came to this sub too. I'd rather her learn than leave.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:26 AM
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You have to be patient. Not everyone here is going to agree with your opinion and it's their movement too. Well, more their movement actually, since you don't have as much at stake.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:24 AM
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Idk, I think there's potential if she actually stays and listens.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:07 AM
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No, it's not what I think the whole point of the article is, it is a point in the article that I disagree with and commented on.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:41 AM
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Music videos are uncomfortably racist though. Miley's always got an entourage of black women with big asses to dance behind and validate her.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:35 AM
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Run through some photos. Did you notice what I noticed? Looks like these guys are all black. So, maybe we should be discussing how a suburban white girl's hostile reaction to being looked at by "low status" men is really about a hostile reaction to being looked at by black men Did you even read this article? Hannah Price isn't white at all and she didn't call the men who looked at her her harassers and was upset that people started mis-labeling that. From the JB article: “The nonportraits are mo…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:25 AM
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Honestly, I don't understand women's part in this and this article didn't help me understand. Because /u/raptorrage is right, women get catcalled regardless of their appearance, the makeup etc. isn't necessarily doing it. And the idea that men are encouraged to approach women doesn't make sense either. Do you honestly believe that men who catcall expect the woman to engage with them? That this is a genuine attempt to approach women? Because a lot of times catcalls are shouted out of moving cars.…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 05:18 AM
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