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So.... He answers the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:30 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:55 PM
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What I feel Reading your comment is that all your dating life turn around look. "Ugly men can't be evil", "hot guy raise my self esteem", "even if he is an asshole at least he is hot"... Maybe that's the problem, evil people are evil no matter what and it's not related to look, as smart or tallented people came in all shape. Maybe you should focus on less superficial traits when it comes to people ! You say there is 3 options... But what about a less attractive guy (I don't say ugly that kissing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:42 PM
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Probably knew/met the guy in elementaty school and fucked him years later !
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:57 AM
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What is "most guys"? 40% 50% 60%? Compare this to women who aren't interested in 5'5 men or shorter. Your question was "who has it worse" in any metric short men have it worse than tall women. If you asked "do tall women having it worse than short/average women" I would say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:01 AM
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And that's the only thing you will keep in mind.... But this is a debate sub so let me make it more clear for you one last time. This guy is average so by definition not short --> your post claim that men shouldn't complain about height. However most complain come from SHORT men who suffer solely because of their height and women's requirements you make fetishized look like the worst thing ever. Would you react the same way from women saying "I only date black guys" The fact you don't want to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:37 AM
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That's the problem with height... You can't make one criteria all thing from a genetic point of view. By your logic it would mean that Gwendoline Christie has a higher SMV than Tom Cruise or Zac Efron...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:25 AM
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Yes some men fetishized tall women, other short women, other fat one, other asian etc... I never heard a short women said "I dated this tall guy who fetishized short women. Ew it was disgusting, this guy had something to prove and I don't want to deal with that so...no more tall guys" Your experience is real and I am sorry you had to suffer from other's people comments. And you can chose your partners with any requirement/preference. But don't attack short men because the struggle is real too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:16 AM
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That doesn't work this way... Height don't impact much the women's SMV (or as the post show it can have a negative effect for some men). So her (we don't know how she looks like) having a tall guy would probably make her shoot out of her league. I would say that a looksmatched could be same height or shorter !
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:10 AM
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But this guy isn't short....he is average 😊 so keep your hate toward short men for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:04 AM
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Why is it always short men fault ? You won't date shorter men now because you had couple bad exemple. And you ask any short men to be fine with it. While tall men could fetishized you (or fetishized short women) no one Cares... Would you say the same thing or other generalization if it was black guys ? Do you think hate for tall women is comparable to hate for short men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:01 AM
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So.... You have preference for tall men ? So... You should understand why short men suffer and complain since you perpetuate something you're suffering from. I am curious, what was the height of men who made fun of you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:55 AM
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Dude, I don't want to enter this debate. As I stated you do whatever you want 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:51 PM
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Don't be sorry ! Women of ppd often need to defend their choice of hot men. I personnaly find it nor good nor bad, it's just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:38 PM
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I know, but not only hot guys with a brain reproduce. The discussion is "is hypergamy good for society" my point is what constitue the most attractive traits for men aren't necesserily good for our species. Hot is better than smart to reproduce. I say this with no judgment. Which doesn't mean as an individuality you can't chose whatever you want. If you reproduce with a hot and smart and kind guy... Well good for our species !
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:29 PM
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Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of attractive men that are nuturing and smart and have wonderfull heart... Those are not mutually exclusive. We talk about characteristic that most likely make you reproduce. Your argument saying there are perfect specimen of our species doesn't contradict my argument. I don't downplay the role of smartness in attraction (luckily for me). With all the discussion in ppd you can't tell me that smartness is one of the big factor that is selected for reproduction…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:21 PM
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Some of the major attractive trait from men aren't that good: tall big guys consume more ressources, lack of stamina. Smartness isn't a major factor of attraction. Nuturing is considering as a feminin trait and we need collaboration as a species. We can't really see how people age and we become an old society. This is never taking care in consideration (I guess it's impossible tho) A lot of money means shit except instant gratification. So I am not fully agree that it makes society become better…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:04 PM
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It depends what are the genetics which are selected but at the end evolution don't care. The species will adapt with or without society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:38 AM
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So you have shitty attractive guys friends ! Calling someone creepy solely because one's is unattractive is a problem that I never see from men but I believe your experience ! There are obviously creepy men and women all along the attractiveness spectrum. Uglies date uglies most of the time (men and women). I am not confortable to say that one's should stop interacting in a specific way based on attractiveness. That's pure discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:45 AM
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Did you ever see men saying an ugly women is creepy or pretend she harass them ? You confuse the discussion.... Having standard doesn't mean you can act like a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:36 AM
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This place is full of criticism of women. Don't you see the misogynistic memes, men rallying against femisimn, bodily autonomy being taken away? This place is full of criticism of everyone. As a man this is not a place for an ego boost... The fact you see only criticism of women should make you think about how you approach m'en/women relationship or ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:25 AM
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Would you say the same to poor people"dude, just be rich". You know that look has a major impact on your career. Just look height for men and its impact on other area of life. What your saying is bellow average men just have to be (by themselve) perfect in other aspects of life and it's doable so they can't complain. Do you see how you have zero emphatizing toward men's problem. A classic advice for most ugly women : go slim/fit. It's doable (even if not easy) solely with your own effort for mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:33 PM
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I think it's because they are bitter at having failed to secure a loving relationship. They are bitter about their own feelings of lack of control, Would you say the same about women who can't emphatizing with men's problem. If so that's a lot of bitter women in ppd. I do think we all have trouble getting in someone's else shoes. We like to pretend we have it worse and are the victim so it makes it seem WE suceed fighting odds against us. I don't think it's gender related
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:28 PM
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Since I am not perfect and I might have made some mistake. Let's say otherwise : I never maintain a grey area on purpose to keep fucking a woman or knowing she might want more or when I see several time a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:29 AM
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Yes and I learnt that letting grey area is the worst. When I ask women if they want to be in a relationship and they say " no" or"I just got out of a relationship" I know where I stand. Women (or men) can lie but at least you vet some of them. I personnaly never lied to women and prefer to say what I want. Grey area make you definetly project things. So I disagree with you on the naïve part
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:45 PM
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Asking if he wants a relationship 😊 I think it would solve many problem. Not ditching all men who say they want a relationship early because those must be insecure and move things too quick
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:07 PM
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Do you or your tall friends have trouble finding men attracted to you or wanting to fuck you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:42 PM
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Isn't 5'10 cut off make you cut half of the men population ? If you give it more criterias you won't have many men left. The fact that nature gave you an incredible avantage in the dating market (you said it yourself you had when younger and nothing else but still succeed) seem to make you see life in a simplier way. I am happy for you but you seem smart enough to understand other men complain. When you talk about your swinging aventure. You make it seem that women were heavier but without conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:10 PM
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short men are not unattractive because of their height, This has been proved many time that short guys are unattractive (to most women) solely because of their height. That's like saying racist doesn't exist and people are discriminated just because they are angry. Now, adding lnsecurity and low self esteem make it worse I agree. You have to understand however how many efforts it would take for an average human (short men are human) to overcome the fact that us as a society we push that "short =…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:47 AM
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Still never dating a short male again You do whatever you want ! No judgment 😊 you're still probably illogical in your way of thinking ! That's okay you're not short so I guess you don't need to be the smartest 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:33 PM
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So when two of your relationships with 6ft+ guy will fail, will you blame it on their height ? And say"no more tall guys"? (Some goes for skin color or age or any thing someone can't control). Plus I would like to know what did you do to trigger "raging insecurities", that's strong words and relationships are two way street
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:02 AM
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I wanted to say only death is unanimously a dealbreaker but even that could be discuss. Same with being a human...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:16 PM
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Thank you for your answer 😊 it's always interesting to see how people percieve feelings ! Even if we don't see life the same way and would disagree on couple part I want to say that I 100% agree on the drama part. People should stay away from that shit but seem addict to it (not only women).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:02 AM
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It is accurate that every guy wants to meet somebody who hasn't had many sexual partners, is pretty, young, etc. Be careful when you talk in absolute. Plenty of exemples don't fît this sentence (myself first). People will focus on this and your debate will have no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:04 AM
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Why stoïcism in your list ? What is your definition of it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:00 AM
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Are you searching an human or a dog ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:59 AM
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Good point !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:55 PM
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No you can't connect intellectually with any smart person. As I said you standard for being interesting is probably lower than me. Plus smart =/= interesting for me (that's only part of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:54 PM
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I am a man and intellectual and emotional connexion (also, if someone is physically attractive it works too) turn me on. Maybe that's because it's easy for you to find someone intellectually interesting that you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:49 PM
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But everywhere else yes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:22 PM
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So men and women aren't equal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:19 AM
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When I thought about that I wondered one thing : since short (ugly) men spent less time in relationship they had to learn how to take care of themselve/their house. So when in relationship they know how to do things and want it to go their way which include a better repatition of the household labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:41 AM
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Are you new to PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:34 AM
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I am 33 yo. 22 yo women for most part are completely unintersting to LTR so marrying.... I prefer 10000x 28yo women It's another story for short term relationship or to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:13 PM
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Why is it sad ? Nobody force them to do that. They could just go as they are. They do this probably because it makes them more attractive. The man she will go for is attractive "by nature". I am not sure there is an equivalent for men or you would see them take days to preprare a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:50 AM
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We don't seem to understand each other which is fine ! You seem to have a way of seeing things which makes you happy and I am glad for you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:45 PM
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My desire to reproduce is a social programming ? As I said, I agree with you for most domain in life. When it comes to dating I find those arguments not so consistent !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:51 PM
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Oh I do globaly agree with you as I stated. I just think it's a bit more complexe than just"stop searching validation from outside" due to the core nature of who we are !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:55 PM
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That's the thing. While I agree on the content of your answer I see two problems: we're sexual creature and as men you have a male part in your identity. While most other things in life can be dealt as you said how could you be validate as a male if women don't want to fuck you ? You might like it or not but your male value depends on women (men if you're gay) if you perfectly happy and good with yourself there is no motivation to bring another human in your life because this shit needs a ton of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:32 PM
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So... Men should hurt women as much as they hurting men ? Tbh I am not sure women will enjoy the"an eye for an eye " game...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:13 AM
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I don't think you're wrong ! It's just not my life story. I 100% understand that some people don't want to have their ex in their life. It's as healthy as my way !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:01 AM
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My exes are all great person. I am "Friend" with some of them. We don't hang out together every week. But we chat or go to a drink from time to time. Once I am not hurt by the breakup anymore and I move on I see no problem with being friend with exes if everything is clear and don't perturbe my relationships. None of my gfs ever expressed concerne about my exes/my relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 09:23 PM
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Oh boy if your tongue is as big as a dildo you make me really curious how it works !
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:51 AM
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I assure you that I am a beta male and women cum when I lick them (even ONS)... If it's not your case well... I invite you to practice more/find a way to enjoy it/look at women reactions when you do it so you can adapt to her needs and give her more pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:41 AM
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Well it depends. 9n OLD well you ask question and during the date you look how it goes (if you like some tender moment during sex you can know if it will happen during the date). Then if you're not happy during the intercourse (like no oral before trying to fuck you) well you can say."stop I don't like how it goes". Would it stop 100% of the bad sex ? No but probably leads to reduce what is said in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:05 AM
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You can beta bux and bé good in bed. You don't need 10000 lays to want to please your partner, listen her needs, communicate etc... And Alpha fucks doesn't mean either that the guy is good or like sex or please his partners. It just means more women want to suck your dick. However, I still agree that more exp helps like anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:16 AM
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Women needs to choose their partners better if they aren't happy with their sexual life. Having a compatible sexual partner is important for me (give and recieve pleasure) and it's part of my relationships requierments..for 1 night or for a relationship. You vet men for so many reasons, why not taking this criteria ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:23 AM
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How dare you have a life outside PPD 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:30 PM
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I am fine if you talk in stereotypes and know you do it ! Generalisation are usefull to discuss !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:29 PM
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When I complain about dating (online or IRL) it's because it hurts and I did nothing on your list. I also have empathy for women's struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:03 PM
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When someone reject you (after or before something happen) whatever the reason is you should trust the person especially when it's ego's hurting. Women aren't mean to me they are open and honnest. So no they weren't negging me (not all). OLD is also a good exemple, when someone says "no you're too short" it's not negging it's just their requierments (they are entitled to any requierments, no judgment). So... Plz don't tell me how my life is happening as I don't pretend you're wrong when you say …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:33 PM
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I won't enter in detail about my life. But I assure you it wasn't negging most of the time. Now I know height isn't the only problem with me for sure. I just believe women when they talk and/or reject me !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:19 PM
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Some random women neg me but I had ballant rejection only for height. not the only reason I was rejected in my life tho. Being short is not a death sentence but I don't like when people pretend it's not a massive disavantage in the dating game
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:27 PM
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I can accept that ! That's your life so it's true 😊 that wasn't exactly my point tho. Not especially disagreeing with you. Just try to add to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:24 AM
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Maybe it's your life experience I can't deny that. My point it's : because it's a women thing to care about height that men use it for their own interest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:22 AM
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I've be strictly rejected for being short and women (friends /coworkers) express minimum height requierments more than I can remember. Experience shared with other men IRL. Your view doesn't fit what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:20 AM
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Not really. It's a women thing (I am a short guy I know what I am talking about). Because it's a women things men use it to appear better and put competition down. Men will use anything to prove they are above other men. The day (that won't happen) women will say shorter= better I can assure you that a lot of short men will shit talking about their taller counter part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:01 AM
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Well, take me for exemple. I am not an HVM, I am not good looking and short and my personnality is... Special. I prefer loving relationship, I am a sensitive guy and have no problem with engagement. However I also do like sex a lot. All my past lovers left when we were in relationship. I am apparently not the kind of guy you'll want to spend the rest of your life with. But i'd like to. I don't know how but I have not that much problem getting casual sex which made my ncount high (for PPD standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:02 PM
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I don't understand why you tie N count and values
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:21 AM
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I think women as some men (me include) think body count doesn't define who you are and an healthy relationship should let the past in the past. Now some RP men will tell you that it would affect who she is and that since she knew better men than you she won't be able to really love you, she will just settle for you thinking about her past lovers. I personnaly see no reason to pass an amazing women because she sucked some dicks in the past (hopefully it would help her have better skills). If I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:14 AM
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Here we go again what ? I made detailed sentences and you keep saying the same things. Are you up for discussion or you want to keep your obtuse misandrist idea? Btw : roling your eye up, makes you look stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:32 PM
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Men don't get cheated on ? Treat badly ? Rejected ? Is it because women are mysandrists ? Oh it was a general you. As you said I know nothing about you 😊 Victims are vicrims and no women deserve to be treated badly/suffer. My point is : if it keeps happen to you, you might change the way you choose men instead or saying all men are mysogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:44 PM
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Maybe choose better partners ! If you find only misogynists maybe you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:22 PM
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Yeah I agree with you and it was more to tease women of PPD than anything else. You have the right to any preference/hard preference/requierments as you want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:32 PM
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Be ready to see women not seeing the difference between preference and requirement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 08:00 AM
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other than a guy being healthy and white/Asian (no curly hair) Is this preference or requierments ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:59 AM
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Oh I 100% agree and most hit can/should lead to break. The question was about instant breakup. And those situations would make me brealup in a second
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:29 PM
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Well I will give you one exemple. You date someone with mental health issue. Things can get nasty, it doesn't lead to imediate breakup. Another exemple, you're in bed and it becomes a little "violent" (with consent etc...) A hit can be thrown without violence. Another exemple, if you cheat on someone, you might deserve a hit even if the person is ready to forgive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:38 PM
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There are reasons where you can take some hits without it to be domestic violence. That's why I put some reserve on this. But I understand your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:01 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:16 PM
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Haha yeah that's why I think it's a great immediat breaking up reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:57 PM
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"I sucked your Friends dick" "I am moving on the other side of the planet next month" If she punches me without reason "You have 1 year to propose"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:39 PM
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I would bet on that one !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:28 PM
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Indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:37 PM
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Not for yourself....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:19 PM
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So soon every women will get love bombed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:07 PM
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I see. Thanks for the update !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:06 PM
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If it makes you feel better, if you can be yourself and deploy your strenght as a human it's a net positif
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:58 PM
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Is Love bombing a new trend ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:55 PM
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But it makes you better as a human. Don't be weak but emotional=/= weakness. There are other things in life than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:51 PM
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Okay... But that's not the part I was reacted to... But to make a comment about what you say. I don't see most guys say women should be short/shorter. I am pretty sure most men would love to date a VS model. So you (and maybe your entire gender) say what should it be while it's not a truth by itself. You might reinforce some traits and be conditioned by society. And yeah it's because it's sad that you can't just say "get over it" we're all humans and have feelings when things are sad/unfair even…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:29 PM
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Get over it boys, women can have standards too you know! That's something I don't understand. Height isn't good by itself... It feels some women see men as tous/bags they are proud to show off. I am ashamed each time I let go great women/humans because I don't find them attractive.... It's not something to be proud of. It would be like saying"I have standards I don't date women over 30". Boys try to get over it. Since we are no one to judge what women want. However I am sad I have to say it too …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:15 PM
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I am looking forward to see where it goes. Good luck to maintain your position 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:43 PM
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I invite you to read better ! That's okay to project one's ideologie on other, it's human and I am here to enlighten you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:55 AM
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I swear this argument is boring. We're living in a society, we're not alone and taking care somehow to your fellow humans is our only way to leave in peace. Why should anybody have empathy for any suffering ? No one should it just makes things better. implies that finding a partner is a given for everyone. It's not. Where does it imply that? Where does aknowledge some men suffer make you think it implies that there is a partner for everyone ? EDIT : I would like to see more empathy from men too …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:29 AM
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Your way of argumenting is problematic. You say in one sentence that women aren't shallow then proceed to say that men do it worse for long time. Women are shallow, men are shallow. Women have superficial requierments, men have superficial requierments. We are equal on this (not only with smartness and being able to be CEO). There are preference but a lot of shallow requierments. So no preference isn't a valid term most of the time. You made a lot of asumption about me... And I think it means yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:05 AM
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women are shallow It pops out as blame but you have to go through it. It cause pain in m'en. Men are humans who feel things. Women should be the first to understand since they are a pain in the ass since I am young about beauty standard. I personnaly don't judge women for their requierments (it's not preference, preference are a word which makes women less shallow). I would just like to see more empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:29 AM
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Firstly, 2022. Women, especially sub 25 years of age, make it VERY clear left right and centre that they want tall hot guys. Good now we'll be able to talk about men beauty standard, women shallowness. Short/ugly men acceptance. Everything my generation of men went through ! Secondly, WHY get so hung up and angry about the fact that women havent always been so transparent? Really ? Because when you grow up and get rejected if people aren't honnest you might think something is wrong with who you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:43 AM
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Yeah I agree with that !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:58 AM
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Thanks for your answer ! Imagine being a below average woman and just having to wait around till a guy finds interest in you? It seems like our society pens them in the defense role a lot. This part doesn't fit the dynamics around me. Women do approach men when they want to. apparently it's not the same everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:47 AM
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It seems you pick being you more than being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:36 AM
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Okay ! Can you explain why it's easier ? I think this sub needs some optimism of being a man. Especially in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:19 AM
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Thank you for your answer ! I tend to share your point of view and your answer is well put (might save it in case I want to resume some neutral thoughts !)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:17 AM
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Why do you think being a man is better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:08 AM
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Thank you for your answer. It assumes that women are not complete without a man. Many of us are, we have friends, good jobs, own homes, some even choose to raise children alone I never assumed this. A lot of men are and can be alone without all mâle/female gaz. The question was "is it better ?" I am always suspicious when someone can say"I can live without this stuff I have". PPD often remember me a thread (I post from time to time) about beauty priviledge and bad side of it And yes men have tro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:03 AM
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Oh yes it's mandatory for me. But... Attraction for me is far from being only physical (but I am a man so less picky on what is attractive). for complexe and difficult Time for my life (like pregnancy for women). My partners attractiveness has 0 impact and I value 1000 more things. If I decide to have a baby, the choice won't be based on look of the mother. I still need to be attracted since you know otherwise no babies. The only superficial thing I would like is a tall mother since I am short a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:57 AM
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I might have read too much in your comment ! My bad. I don't see why a sexually attractive man would make your pregnancy better but... I am not a woman so... I don't know. Until you get what you want you have no reason to change ! I am glad you're enjoying your life 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:39 AM
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you can have that luxury of getting what you want look wise. And this is pure selfish human (not women) behavior. There is no criticism or judgment in my comment. I am happy if you're happy. I just discuss the fact that is biologically wired in women brain because it produce better humans !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:33 AM
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I made a thread long time ago that didn't bring me answer. Do you think women can really be alone ? It may shock you that many women are ok with being single, in fact would prefer it. I am not sure that's the case if you take sex and attention off the table. Which also comes from men she doesn't want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:28 AM
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Hey I don't judge you 😊 you can do whatever you want. What I say is your desire for good looking men are mostly selfish (suggar for obese people) and not a picky requierments to make the human race better ! It seemed (from my pov) that your argument was because you are responsible of breeding you need to choose attractive men. For the human race. I might have been wrong ! I would have to want to be with him and to be with him I would want to be sexually attracted to him A lot of humans are shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:26 AM
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Okay i'll try to be simple. You put women role as human printer really high and use it as an argument to select attractive men. All of that because "good genetic". While in reality, good look isn't always "the best genetic" especially for a species like human. So if you want to be a human printer you might focus on other qualities that make humans better and which means maybe reproduce with ugly people. Which means (almost) everyone should be beautiful It's like and obese person saying "I love s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:14 AM
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But undesirable is sometimes relative. What if the best human baby you can produce isn't with an attractive man ? Shouldn't you submit to your core substance (that's how I percieve your speech) and produce baby for great human (who can be ugly)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:01 AM
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Isn't everyone beautiful ? EDIT : I know you're hurt but I find you all beautiful my fellow downvoters <3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:53 AM
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Sounds a good idea ! I don't have the solution but you seem to think nothing can be changed. that's why I ask what is your opinion. If you accept there are external factors which drive women's attraction. Well it means that something can be done. Wouldn't it be better for everyone if women would be attracted to average men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:29 PM
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You think sexual preference is only rooted in our gènes and not influence by socio economical context ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:37 PM
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I don't care and since I am not really good looking and short I am sure none of my ex gfs liked all my attributs. Until she is sexually attracted to me and find me handsome I am fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:35 PM
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Ok ! Not my way to do either. Just an impression from what I see around me You can check my post history if you want, more than clean here Oh I am sry. It wasn't aim to you but to the women who criticize this Caleb
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:54 PM
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Isn't it the modern way of dating for most people ? I am curious to know if those women don't keep their option open when they're not 100% into someone. If you call on someone's actions you better be clean yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:36 PM
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You answer about what you want. And if you think you can possibly love go with the flow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:42 PM
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That's a bit different from what you said. But I get why this is annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:54 AM
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Why annoying ? If those dudes weren't into you. Chances are the guys you want wouldn't too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:35 AM
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But most women here say they got their perfection. Which is... Statistically unlickely that those men are really perfect. So I guess they go for shunning but on some criteria those men are perfect. A lot of discussions on PPD are about what criterias is important for women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:34 AM
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When I said move the discussion I meant your answer. We can want love and women who fuck us right away.(and in the same woman !) OP express his fear of not being sexually attractive enough to women he dates. So far, nothing except “men like sex more than anything else” has come up That's what you get from my answers 😱 Women should do what they want... Men can also feel what they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:51 PM
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They shouldn't it's how they express their selfish need (no judgment). If they are happy that way well good for them. Men have to deal with that (and they complain about it because men are humans). But we completely move from the start of the discussion 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:45 PM
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Because that's a normal way to do. As I said it's not about sex it's about sexual attraction. Maybe you make men confortable enough so they feel it 😊 Oh I think most men are assholes lol we're selfish creatures, men and women. And I think women have sex because they want to ! Not because of exchange for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:28 PM
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You don't have to do anything.... My point is as a man (and knowing men) it's important to know the person in front of us is sexually attracted because it's mandatory for a love story. The rest is only communication about feelings and needs. If you can show it in another way well. Good for both of you. What I know is my best way to know it is when a woman sleep with me (I have a counter example to that which is couple months old but I had my answer with talking so I knew my place even if we did …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:50 PM
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So you never know a date so perfect that it leads to sex because you already was confortable with each other and emotional bounding start quickly ? That's maybe why you don't understand me. I have no problem sleeping with someone the first day and make it a love story. It would be stupid if I didn’t learn from my experiences, no? As I said, if you're happy with the way you do things well... I am happy for you too 😊 Why should women be stupid when the men who want our company as well as our pussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:37 PM
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I am really proud (or happy because proud is not the feeling) of women who can get and do what they want ! No judgment if this strategy works for you. I am no one to tell you to change. Yes but... You got sex with men you wanted to have sex with ! Which is already a good point. Then... How many times did you sleep with someone and found love ? How many amazing relationships from it ? I have probably be crushed by more women than you had been from men. However I won't use a strategy which imply I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:25 PM
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Well we can discuss my personnal life and why I do that. But that's not the point. I think you should communicate about those ssubjects with the man you're interested in. And suceed to show him you're sexually attracted. For that two options : A,.sleep with him. B ? If I had the answer I swear I would tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:14 PM
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"do you want to go out with me ? " If you don't know how to flirt and pick hint. It's your safest bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:11 PM
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As I said, if we would start dating you'd probably lose me. Because I would associate you not wanting to have sex with me with you not being attracted (well... I don't work exactly that way but it would make things harder for you) My advices didn't imply sleeping with someone. Just basic things which makes "sleeping with someone" and "futur love" compatible. Your vetting method works. It just drives some men you want away. And I don't know how you can show a man you're sexually attracted to him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:07 PM
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Unfortunately it's how life in most domain. Even for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:19 PM
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Why would you ensure that ? If he leaves it means he isn't the one for you. There are basics which may help tho : talk and explain what you want. Listen what he says/ answer. Express your concern and see if he can make you feel better. Listen your intuition if you have one which work. Another thing. Don't do things you're inconfortable with : so if you sleep with someone it's because you want to. If he leaves well... Deal with your hurt ego and move on. At least you had sex 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:15 PM
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Why would it be not compatible ? I want my partners to be.sexually.attractive to my partners. You can't deny that sexual attractiveness is one of the most important part of love life and often what makes the difference between a close friendship and a love story. One of the most compatible women I met weren't my gf because they didn't find me sexually attractive. While some failed relationship were with people I wasn't compatible long term but we tried. The first ones are... No one the second on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:51 PM
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They usually can to some points if they don't think only with their dicks /pussies. Or if they don't listen only the tingles. Most people aren't that complicated nor good liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:57 AM
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Because they can ? Because they are shallow ? The thing is, even if it's hurtfull for most men, you don't want to be settle for so... Better cope with that if women can't love/desire normal men. Try to not be jealous of more desired men, it's only one part of life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:34 PM
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I am not sure it would ruin his life tho ! But thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:13 PM
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7-8 is a bit more than not being ugly ! But good for you ! Enjoy the luck. Agree on intelligence for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:07 PM
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Is it that common ?? My love life isn't like that at all. Women are more than honnest with me (even if it does hurt my ego). And I don't lie to women I meet. Am I the only one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:46 PM
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What would women do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:11 PM
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Thank you for sharing ! Except height you seem to have a lot going for you 😊 that's maybe why it's easy !
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:26 PM
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Haha sry I wasn't sure if you were serious or not. My bad 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:12 PM
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Women are shallow that's a fact... And... Why are you puting the burden of this post on all of us ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:35 PM
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Can you describe who you are? Look / personality wise/ hobbies ? Maybe it's easy for you and not the OP or regular guys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:03 PM
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Women put a lot of effort for men they are attracted to. They don't withdraw if they are into you. If you never knew that it will be hard for me to explain. On the other hand women are picky. It's nor good or bad, it's what it is. And it cause men who don't live up to their standards to suffer, same nor good or bad just human/feelings thing. Building connexion can be in or out a relationship (heard about the"friendzone") and women aren't worse than men doing so. Most people end up in relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:31 PM
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Thank you very much !
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:36 PM
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I think we agree on the "dating is the same" if you mean finding someone who is compatible with you and with who you can build someone. Totally agree that's why I always said women don't have it easy either. But since I think dating as a whole, that's why I made my first comment. Thank you for this discussion. If you don't have find it yet I wish you to find a great one for you and a lot of happiness !
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:19 PM
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And I am fine with that but we change the topic of this discussion. It worths it for a lot of women and have it easily which (not only that) makes the dating game easier. I gave you a personnal exemple which works fine for what you're saying. I have better dates with my gfs, I am still going to dates when single and I have an easier dating life than someone who can't get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:13 PM
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See this is funny because what I see is women getting casual sex in part of their dating life and getting it easily (didn't check their profil so they might all be stunning). So they go back to ONS which makes me think they get something from it not or they wouldn't do it. And yeah most men are selfish but most men don't fit your criteria of what you find attractive so... Vetting is what you do on a daily basis. If sex/orgasm is important for you... Take it in considération and sleep with men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:59 AM
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Well you do what I do... You talk before sleeping with someone and ask question if possible or you try to judge them before (not that hard to see if someone like affection). I am a dominant man in bed so I ask question about my possible partners like and to see where I can go, I say outloud that I like tender and affectionate moment during sex, I say that I want to be sucked. And I listen their answers so I know most of the time if sex will be good or at least I vet non compatible sexual partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:32 AM
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Thats not true It is but probably depends where you live so I will just agree to disagree on this one. Bc if q guy likes u, he ll go after u That's a luxury men can't have and which makes the dating. Dance easier for women (not easy and not for outliers who don't get approached) and even easier if like around me you can approach as a woman. Aks most women that jave had one night stands wheter most sex with guys was full of affection I know.... Casual sex isn't the best for most people and especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:19 AM
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Also question. What do u want from one night stands? And sex with strangers? Its not love and affection Why ? I want everything that can happen. Even in one night stand, sex is bounded with affection (not love). If you can't have tender moment (among all the dirty ones). It means you didn't understand what sex is about. And it applies for one night or your bf/gf but at least men have an orgasm. Sex isn't (only) about orgasm... If you want an orgasm... Masturbate Sex and being sexually attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:46 AM
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Why PPD don't talk about Égo/ personnal fulfillment. Isn't it what drives us in the dating scene and should be work on when one is not enough for the game ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:22 AM
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That's how they try to appear strong. As you could have seen there are a cult of the Alpha (man or woman) around here. So the weaker try to make them look strong. That and a lot of past suffering can pop up during PPD discussion (it's highly personnal) Have a nice day too !
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:28 PM
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Oh and even if we disagree on some points (I agree with a lot of what you say just with another approach). I would like to thank you to take time to explain your pov and staying polite 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:28 PM
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First and I won't insist on it enough : I complain if I want to because I am an human and my feelings are valid as much as anyone else no matter the gender. Now what I don't do it's judging people, I don't judge women, I would do the same if I was one. Second,. I thank you but... Nothing you describe fits my own life... And I personally complain but not much about lack of sex (I can get it without it to be a torture). However I see how it's like for me/other less lucky men so I stand my ground. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:20 PM
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You use a lot of arguments to make it more complex than it seems. If women want (and they do) to have casual sex they can really easily. That's part of dating and only this argument makes it easier for women. The only counter argument would say that women don't want casual sex nor like sex (which is sexist). Now... About orgasm... Sex is not (only) about orgasm, it's about pleasure, exchange and affection (don't fuck a random dude a bar's toilette if you don't just want to be dicked, and one mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:21 AM
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I already treated your point of view ( I don't disagree with you tbh) but you missed what I said. I repeat : sex is part (not equal) of dating and women as sexual creature want sex, so even only with this part you can say women have it easier. Then dating someone compatible, interesting... Is hard for everyone. It's not because it's hard for women that it's hard for men. Many gorgeous women dont get approached So live the life of most men. Which means that many also get approached which makes it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:36 PM
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I already treated your point of view ( I don't disagree with you tbh) but you missed what I said. I repeat : sex is part (not equal) of dating and women as sexual creature want sex, so even only with this part you can say women have it easier. Then dating someone compatible, interesting... Is hard for everyone. It's not because it's hard for women that it's hard for men. Many gorgeous women dont get approached So live the life of most men. Which means that many also get approached which makes it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:36 PM
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I put that being the"fear" item. While it's a problem and certainly is in most women mind you factually can't say that rape and death make women's dating a struggle. It would mean they encouter rape/death often
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:56 AM
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Are you happy with my comment ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:59 AM
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Which is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:59 AM
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Sure... As I said many times... It's not because women have it easier in one department that it's an easy life. I am rich, smart, funny with a great social life and I suffer every day. But let's talk about women's difficulties I hear from my feiends (or that I can aknowledge): difficulty of vetting : I am a firm believer that choosing isn't easy lies : sex for you is easy to get but a lot of men will lie to get in your pants girlfriends pressure : a lot of women would listen their girlfriends ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:58 PM
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That's sad some people don't understand your comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:44 PM
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I certainly not know all the women's issues since i'm not one and there are (subjective) things I will never be able to feel. Let's try it... You want mutualy exclusive Issues or general issues too ? I'm not bitter since one more time, it's not jealousy. Being a woman is not heaven and even if some stuff are easier ... Well it's life, really no judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:28 PM
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... my eyes hurt because the way you seeing things is stupid. Don't worry it happens to me on my daily life. I took time to adress your answer sentence by sentence and your only argument is "boo you don't understand". I am done with you, come back when you will have more empathy or when you'll be able to discuss in good faith. Before you take any victim position. In my mind you are in the same spot as any extrem TRP guy. My criticism against you is because (from my pov) as a human your approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:34 PM
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Your answer is so full of bias that it's hurtfull for me to read. But since you took some times to answer me i'll give you this respect back. Let's go point by point. dismiss and belittle women’s issues I never said women have no issues. I never said it's easy, just easier. your argument saying having having a loving relationship is hard can be apply to men. Your answer made me want to read this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/eledp/i_know_its_a_weird_question_but_what_is_it_l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:02 PM
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I think you can accept that not every human has the same opportunity in life (some due to discrimination). Why saying women have it easier (not easy) is not respecting women ? One basic argument is saying sex is easy for most women. As sexual creature it's a basic advantage in the dating world. To make a analogy. It would be like me (as a white cis man) saying because it's hard to find an interesting, well paid job where people respect me and let me free time I would have it as hard as a black w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:38 PM
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I don't understand but I guess I am glad you feel good about yourself !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:06 PM
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What accomplissement ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:15 PM
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What about the consequences of this consumption ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:10 PM
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Thank you !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:41 PM
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Haha okay, it could work with the OP's question. To be honnest, I am mixed about ppd's advices. I am on and off this sub for a long time, I think most advices I get were genuine (even from people who didn't like me) and that's the force of people around here. A lot of us are more aware about dating questions / relationships than your regular people. If you know how to take what people here say, it can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:02 AM
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I think you wanted to answer the OP ! Or is it about the advice part of ppd ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:41 AM
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Is this a real post ? FYI : ppd isn't an advice sub
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:54 AM
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That's okay ! We don't understand each other on this topic, that's life. Not understanding each other on important things would be a huge red flags anyway 😁 The most important is that both of us feel confortable in our way of living/thinking. I hope you'll find the right person for you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:44 AM
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You don't understand me... You have all the right to reject/ pass every man you want for any reason you want ! I just try to understand cause it makes no sense to me. I am (and always was) relationship oriented, doesn't mean I can't enjoy other things. I am 33 yo, it's not about a stage... It's about different things with different people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:38 AM
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Because (and I know it's not comon among humans) I communicate with people and especially my partners/potential partners. I say what I want when I want it. So if you only want lifetime relationship I would be in this state of mind and see if it works while dating. Doesn't mean that if in another situation a woman I find attractive would tell me "let's fuck" I wouldn't do it. Different goals with different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:12 AM
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That's what I am saying... I could give you more than you could imagine (even in the engagement department). Doesn't mean I won't like having a night of torid sex with a woman who search that on Tinder. So with your posture you'd pass me even if I could give you what you want. That's the point I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:56 AM
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The thing is. I know what I want to and you won't find someone as capable of immediate engagement as me. I can be really serious really quick. However I can do that for the right woman. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy more casual things or ONS. It all depends the woman in front of me. That's why in my profil I always state i'm open to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:37 AM
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100% agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:38 PM
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"i am a feminist", "I am sapiosexual", height requirement (not that arbitrary since I am short but I would do the same if I were tall, I don't like women who show off only one type of man), "impress me", long list of requierments. I am off Tinder/OLD for 8 months so there might be stupid trends I would swipe left on! EDIT. On a side note : I don't understand your"not sure yet". Every time I am on a dating website I am open to multitude of things. It depends the person I meet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:26 PM
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I'm glad to hear that ! I wish the best for both of you guys !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:02 PM
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But it doesn't work that way... Younger women are still women with as much if not more choices and most younger women don't want to settle as much as the older one. It should be your experience too at 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:54 AM
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How old are you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:42 AM
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So I understand your point of view. Maybe those two rejection were really hurtfull for you. When you'll have more experience you'll tell me if you still hold this position !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:39 AM
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Sexually/ romantically since it's the main topic of those subs. To be on your side I prefer getting fired than fire someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:31 AM
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How many times were you rejected ? How many times did you reject ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:26 AM
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Don't forget that women are humans and most of them come with a lot of problems, defaults. Some of them are just human garbage like us men. I didn't make a statistical analysis of FDS but i'd take what they say with a grain of salt. Before I continue let me be clear. Anyone who was on both side of the fence know that getting rejected is way more hurtfull than rejecting someone. Saying otherwise is at least false (i'd even say stupid). Now... Let's try to make it a bit more subtile. This thread m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:26 AM
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Yes, I understand this ! Hope it will work for a long time with your American !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:57 AM
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One of the rare (objective) benefit of marriage is for international couples. If you're not married your relationship doesn't exist for most countries/states
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:30 PM
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I like your way of thinking ! And thank you for the warning about men's right sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:34 PM
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Interesting, maybe I'll give a try to men's right sub. But tbh I try to stay away from activist groups except the ones of fields I have enough knowledge to challenge what is written. And I agree with you or the OP. PPD isn't the most open and good faith place. But not everything/everyone is to flush. And there are discussion and opinion I see nowhere else. I am in a place and a person who don't really fit the comon experience of ppd. I still learn things from other people life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:25 PM
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You're right pal ! I still enjoy PPD and I even like some people from here (I talked to some of them on the discord and I wish I could meet some of you one day in my life).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:18 PM
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I am glad to hear that 😊 take a hug and amical vibes from a stranger dude on the internet ! Take care of you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:14 PM
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Your absolute claim might be challenged. I personally enjoy seeing other people point of view and ppd had some of my views adapted. I am sure I am not the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:37 PM
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Disagree,. it's like saying I am against freedom of mouvement since there are licences. Internet is a powerful tool that is used by stupid people to diffuse their stupid truth and makes them feel more important than they are. So... When I see comments that lower the average IQ of the population I wish there was a permit to post on the internet. Doesn't mean you can't express yourself 😊 being stupid doesn't mean you're worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:53 AM
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No why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:15 AM
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I guess death might be the best option !
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:46 AM
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Why ? This is so stupid.....and childish. I wish there was a permit to use internet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:44 AM
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So... Don't reproduce, adopt or end your life.(don't really do that before testing other solutions). Those are solutions for your problem !
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:53 AM
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I wasn't offended by your last post I was just pointing out your way to think is stupid... Those women are also stupid. But... Most humans are stupid and it never stoped them to breed. So don't be even more you by thinking for me (and probably even most men of ppd)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:51 AM
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What are you saying ? Women express they like attractive men all the time. Plus there is a difference between preference and requierement. As I said, I love VS models. But... I can be attracted/ love less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:13 PM
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Kind of... The point about height is it's often way too high on the list compare to other aspects of a man. But saying women are attracted to attractive men are not a news. I like VS Models too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:17 PM
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But selecting only for height makes no sense. That's why when we see women like you being selector for our species it's kinda sad !
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:11 PM
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Why ? They don't hurt most men who cross their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:58 PM
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I find it disgusting and disturbing that you expect this from men... What happen in one's head Can stay there. Unless you expose all your thoughts you can't ask this. Plus I'm sad I have to say that but... Sex isn't bad and being sexually attracted isn't a crime (it could be considered as a compliment)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:02 AM
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Yes I do have many female friends !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:45 PM
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A real man Don't push gender role 😱 If you stay single by choice it's not the same as struggle to date. Dating without compromise is hard for anyone... And no matter the scale. It's harder for men. I disagree with your post and your comments didn't change my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:33 PM
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And ? I am not a native English speaker. What point you didn't understand, i'll repeat. New lesson : when you start to attack grammar in a debate / discussion it means you admit your loss. But... Congrats to know how to speak / write in English sweety Édit : if your kind were so smart. They would send me mp to tell me what grammar rule I should work on 😊 but no..' it is easier to feel superior this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:55 AM
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Thanks for the advice but I do fine with women 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:47 PM
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This logic can apply to you and men... Be consistant please 😊 Fyi women tend to love me !
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:46 PM
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Omg I don't have time to deal with teenagers.... I let you grow up and reread this discussion. I never disagree with this basic statement. No women owe sex to m'en and cancer is bad. Just remember that things are more complex than you can think right know 😊 I wish you luck in your life ! Stay safe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:45 PM
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What you're saying about short dudes is full of shit. If you mean that being in women's shoes is being stupid and unable to be aware of reality... Well change your view about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:52 PM
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What are you talking about 😊? Where did I say women owe me sex... You sound like broken record. Yes women don't owe men sex and cancer is bad ! my own small life experience? this kind of behavior and thinking is what gets people raped This makes no sens... can you elaborate ? You have a small life experience, this is not an insult it's a fact. it's what happened to me. I am sry you were raped but this thread isn't about rape (extrem case of entitlment not acceptable etc...). Plus I am sorry to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:32 PM
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I 100% agree with you. I just try to make this discussion a little less... How to say... Manichean ? We discuss sensitive and personnal subject here and too few people can be reasonable or discuss in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:43 AM
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She is young 😊 she thinks in absolute and from her own pov. That's normal ! We shouldn't be too hard on her. I agree with your comment tho.however, Men (as a gender) should work on anger issue during rejection. If it happens too much that's not good. Most men don't throw tantrum when rejected for a job
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:55 AM
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Well... This sub make it seem like the majority of women hate men. Welcome to the jungle
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:50 AM
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Okay then what ? We supress all our desire ? And act only as magnanimous creature ? I don't think this work no matter the gender
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:46 AM
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Incely to want/expect something ? Seriously ? Are you human ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:43 AM
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I agree with you here. I have a lot of female friends, nothing weird here. What is shitty is knowing someone love you and keeping him/her around because "he/she is a friend to me and want him/her around"... This is by definition not friendly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:42 AM
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No one say this... Some men delude themselve in hope. Some don't get the message and get hurt. I know some get even really nasty but I don't see them (it probably happens tho) thinking women owe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:40 AM
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Can you show me the one that bother you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:37 AM
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Yes.... I understand the tone of her thread now 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:36 AM
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Yes and most of us don't say they owe us sex. I didn't see it written
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:36 AM
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Oh... I'm sorry I was too agressive and patronizing thinking you were older while you are still a child (young adult, no offense to take here) There are awfull men, awfull women out there and you can't throw things like "women don't owe you sex" because it's like saying "death makes people sad" but attacking a full gender. As said to some comment you should make the difference between : wanting/ expecting/ owing. Those are different concept and some are normal other aren't. I like the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:35 AM
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Where did you see around here that men think women owe us sex ? Did you read this subreddit or just make a plain basic post to try to prove you have a point ? Obviously the vast majority of us understand that and most of us don't get angry when decline/rejected (that's something that happens often in a man's life). EDIT : How old are you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:31 PM
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+1
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:59 AM
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Some does some don't. Most people I met seem to not care that much where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:19 PM
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Crying isn't weakness.... Well not always
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:25 PM
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Some of these men. Don't get me wrong a lot of asshole among men who think they need to appear Alpha around here. I am just debating the "there is only 5 non red men on ppd" 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:17 PM
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This makes no sens !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:47 AM
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That's not what she said ! But a lot of us don't identify as red !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:46 AM
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Yeah I think you can say AMALT for some things ! As you can say all accidental are like this because we grew up in the same environnement. men in my life want to dread game me and force themselves on me because I actually want it? If you think this is TRP well I think most of us aren't TRP !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:21 PM
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First I don't say there is no asshole /extremist on here. I say you're probably wrong thinking most men around here hate women. Since you don't read mind of the men you know IRL I think you might have a confirmation biais and might be desapointed if you could know everything they think. I talked to a"lot" of ppd men. Most of them don't hate women. Are they"normal"? Well we're on Reddit so idk, but same goes for women around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:14 PM
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I don't think you're right. I think most of us can have loving relationship. Some men get hurt and might have some anger phase lashed out on the internet but that's all. There isn't much reason for men who don't have anger towards women to be around here Would you say the same things about women around here ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:04 PM
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And you think there is only 5 man like this around here ? Really ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:38 PM
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What do you consider a non TRP man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:14 PM
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Isn't it a normal thing when you got your Heart broken? Then... You move on. And it would be sad to only be able to love alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:19 AM
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What about height ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:07 PM
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I was teasing you because I had this exact discussion with a date couple month ago. You date whoever you want 😊 even if it's the 1% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:05 AM
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Since there is no clear definition of what is feminism I find your answer kinda trpy : you go for the top 15% of what you consider good ! AWALT ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:15 PM
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Let's do an experiment. I am a man and I would like to ask you something. Would you like to have naked picture of me and see my hard cock ? Since the answer is (probably) no (and that I won't be flooded with dm) you can understand that I can't sell a good people refuse for free. If I was a woman this experiment would probably go differently 😊 Does it answer your question ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:05 AM
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Good ! After that I invite you to value less look in 90% of aspects of your life love 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:58 AM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:35 AM
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I don't understand the goal of your post. That's something we all agree on here for years. And about how you look and reaction on here (if I understand well the drastic change), I would be concerned about who I am / my intellectual capabilities if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:34 AM
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I think so. Maybe I am wrong in what I put in the negging category since obviously no sane woman would be attracted with insults ! Finally we probably agree 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:43 PM
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You thread doesn't contradict what I said... Some of the answer even agree with me and use the same vocabulary as me... Now if for you negging= insulting or being rude for no reason, i'm on your side
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:34 PM
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As I said let's agree to disagree since you only think negging (maybe we don't have the same defintion tho) works on women with issues and wrap all your arguments on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:23 PM
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Lol negging work on them (is Lol a valid argument now ?). I didn't talk about negging when hurt what are you talking about? And yes I am personally against negging... Doesn't mean I don't see it work. But I guess we don't know the same women ! Let's agree to disagree 😊😊
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:13 PM
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I think negging works better on women who know their "worth" since most of us worth nothing. a reality check is an efficient way to make some women (people) realize you're not that above their league. Most women when barely interested will say "he doesn't put me on a pedestral". Nope... You might have been played on (might is the key word here)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:10 AM
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I don't see bad as the same as worthless. That's maybe why we didn't understand eachother. And since women choose the attractive one (which means the one with high ncount) it means they aren't worthless. Or are you saying women chose worthless men in priority ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:26 AM
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That's... Factually false... If women didn't want community dicks they couldn't exist. That's logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:20 AM
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I understand your point... And I don't judge what you like /not like. You have the right to do whatever you want ! But that's your opinion, not the opinion of the vast majority of women. I just want you to accept that ! For exemple I don't care of the N-Count of my gfs. I know it's not the case for the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:57 AM
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That's the same thing, IRL most men don't care if the woman is virgin or not. Never heard women talk about virgin men IRL so... Maybe idk I let women express what they think on that but you might be true especially after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:52 AM
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For you... And it's your right. But do you realize it's not what happens for the majority of women in Real life ? Most men who can use their penis a lot are the oppsite of worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:33 AM
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Why is guilt tripping to express what one wants ? If she doesn't want to sleep with me the first (maybe second date) I assume she is not attracted and I move on ! No shaming here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:59 AM
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Because slut shaming men is bad !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:37 AM
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So if stalking doesn't involve assault it's fine ? Judges must learn this new rule !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:56 PM
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Because women here or IRL are angels ? I'd also like to hear what are the hypocritical thought you're talking about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:09 AM
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So there is no problem and you did take your responsabilities 😊 So you agree with my comment and find it strange too that someone dare to think you have no responsabilities in your sex life ? I'm glad to here that and glad you have boundaries and can communicate about what you want ! I didn't see them again because you may not like I really like this : don't do something you're not confortable with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:21 AM
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Most women I had this discussion with share your experience !
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:45 AM
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100% agree with you !
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:41 AM
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She should take her responsability since apparently she doesn't communicate enough what she wants. I am a dominant guy in bed, and I always take a lot of time talking with my partners about what they want,.what I want,.limits (and how to cross them if one wants to). I think those kind of discussions are mandatory in any sex life. If she doesn't want to do that she's also at fault. From my exp and discussion with many women, a lot of men pretend to be dominant because gender role and sociétal pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:38 AM
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So... Do you understand (heterosexual) men who want a SAHM? Who want a traditional gender relationship ? It seems that you are in favor of traditional gender roles (I mean by that relationship) you just switch the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:57 AM
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Yes, I have and I will again if I like the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:33 AM
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You think women with zero attention or completely alone feel well ? You're kinda condescendant in your comments. Do you apply the "deal with your problem alone" in other aspects of life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:19 AM
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Is simp the new cuck ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:22 AM
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One more time thank you for your answer. Since we're on ppd I thought I didn't need to put more details on my questions ! But maybe I was wrong, it wasn't a trick. I am glad you can empathize to others ! Fyi I don't suffer from lack of sex. If I want it I can have it before it's too hard on me !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:55 PM
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Thank you for your answer ! You missed my point I don't try to attack you. I am happy that you have an happy sex life 😊 Just try to bring bridge between gender on ppd and you seemed someone who could help that by sharing your view. my mother was very controlling You know it wasn't my point. This is contextual, it's not like you weren't able to get it from the one you're attracted to It’s not like every man I’ve wanted in my life would say yes, Obviously, no one can have everyone... The question …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:14 PM
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I am curious, can you imagine living without sex being available easily for you ? Or being able to live without having sex with someone you want to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:40 PM
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And no one complains or riots against economic inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:58 PM
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? What are you saying ?? This is the sentence I was arguing with It's pretty rare for guys to want a gal that's taller than him also, Amazon fetish is a fetish for a reason And you answer me that you see.couple where the man is taller... Reread your sentences
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:11 PM
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Couple where the woman is taller ? Everywhere ? Are you blind ? You don't answer what I said. I don't care that women prefer tall(er) men. Just don't pretend the situation is equally because of men. Height is mainly a women's thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:34 PM
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It's pretty rare for guys to want a gal that's taller than him also, Amazon fetish is a fetish for a reason. I rarely saw IRL or online men like this. Most of them were on the taller side. So i'd say you're wrong about this. Height thing is something imposed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:22 PM
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Invisible to men she really wants for the type of relationship she'd like* That's how women translate questions on ppd ! Because it's their life. No average woman will be as invisible as average men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:19 PM
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No matter the reason it makes the first sentence untrue from my point of view. Most women experienced men not wanting to commit. I don't talk about my experience since it doesn't fit ppd narative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:20 PM
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We probably don't live in the same place ! Women want to only Fuck sometimes, a lot of relationships don't last when dating etc.... So I disagree. When you Fuck a woman you can't ltr her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:56 PM
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False, so many counter example IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:50 PM
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This makes only patially sens. Being strong isn't correlated only with height. That's why in martial art there are weight category and not height one. While the two are correlated there is not a causation (or Mike Tyson). The fact that this only one criteria is mandatory no matters the other ones make me wonder how much culture has to do with it. As pointed by many women, a perfect specimen of man (on a genetic.level) would be ditched out for being shorter and most women would choose someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:06 AM
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I think men underestimate the mental load Isn't it link with the fact that most men tale the mental load during the dating process and when he locks down a woman think he might "reste". On a serious not. If you're not happy with your husband, let him deal with his own shit and if he can't handle himself... Maybe(just maybe) you made the wrong choice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:00 PM
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What about his story doesn't fit the ppd narrative ? I think most men aren't surprised at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:55 AM
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Dude, the average height of scandinavian country is 6'. It's 7 inches taller than the average height. In the US it would be 6'4....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:22 AM
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Height+ face is the magic combo we agree on this part. It just seems that on Tinder (and based on his story at least) height > face. No matter if you'd have swiped left on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:30 PM
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Oh yeah I agree with that, however being sucessfull on Tinder is harder. I read in his story that he uses tinder with ease. It might be my mistake !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:27 PM
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You do... Apparently his story proves that not every women are like you. I'd even say since he dates easily that most women do prefer height. That's only being logic, don't you think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:17 PM
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Use them better so women will say they got orgasms with you and not a small dick. Btw, any men should use their tongue and fingers if they want to please their partners. Not only the small penis bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:50 AM
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Because face and height are optionals ? Dude if you have a small peepee use your tongue and your fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:46 AM
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Can you define a lot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 09:49 AM
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Isn't a cuck related to having a man's wife/ partners ? In this case no one else is (was) fucking her. I can understand TRPers' approach of cuckoldry with single mother but here... It makes no sense She would be also a genes cuck... Sometimes definition matters more than point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:45 AM
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What is your definition of a cuck ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:20 AM
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I am attracted to a wide range of women. The fact that there are more attractive option for me doesn't change who I am attracted to : if I am attracted to girl 1 it doesn't mean I can't ALSO be attracted to girl 2 even girl 1 > girl 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:59 AM
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Are you talking about one guy or every guys you're friend with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:25 PM
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You're making a lot of asumptions about me 😊 women can be interested in average men. She might be interested in them too That's not what she said tho. She said that every men in real life are having a lot of casual sex. Which is... Not true for everything I saw in my life or read on serious things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:22 PM
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And how can they be your friend if you're the kind of person who goes on Reddit ? Or maybe it's because you're a woman and is around men who aren't average. Real life isn't as terrible as trp or ppd make it however it never was easy for most men to get casual sex... I would be surprise if the younger generation change this fact
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:19 PM
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So... I think the right answer to change your view is "check your privileges". It's useless since you are apparently an alpha and for you it's normal. Now imagine you weren't born with your genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:29 AM
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Humble braging ? This is stastically unlikely that everyone want to date you no matter how amazing you are. However I mostly agree with your post. Are you only talking about physical league tho ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:08 AM
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when men do the same? Oh yeah because society and women are and were always fine with the beauty standards men put on their gender. I have a question : what is your definition of being shallow ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:30 AM
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So... Generalizations don't work except the ones which work? I get your point? Or maybe you're making generalizations about generalizations 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:08 PM
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5 0v
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:34 AM
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Super !! thx :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:29 PM
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Thx :D I'll look at it !!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:15 PM
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Thank you for your imput ! I add my own recipe !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:56 PM
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Thank you very much :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 10:02 AM
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Thx Semicolon ! I would love to see that. Good night :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:15 AM
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thx for the first recipes ! you're the best :D it sounds really tasty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:01 AM
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Shorter than you in heels... Omg you killed Jesus. Are you jew?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:06 AM
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I am short and it's not a problem. You're a height queen and use it to mock short guy. I am an atheist and I use purge week to mock religion and tease you 😊 Just fun here don't worry. I hope everything is fine for you 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:32 AM
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Jesus was short... You ask Jesus on a public forum to suicide.... I wouldn't be so proud if you were was you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:24 AM
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This made me laugh tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 10:24 AM
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You take rejections way too personal While I agree that most (young) men take it the bad way. I think there is more complex problems which affect women too. it's part of a man life to toughten with rejection. Usually when a man try to find a gf in a healthy way, he will learn to know her a bit. I talk about normal knowing, not become friends or other friendzone BS. When men do that (at least me), they start to value that "special" woman, that's when rejection hurt the most. The easiest way to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 06:21 AM
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That's because you don't like sex, but most people do !
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:13 AM
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More fictional stories dude ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:50 AM
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B
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:40 PM
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Correlation or causation ? Halo effect might be part of the question too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:05 AM
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Let me be clear. I agree with what you said and it was balanced and right. what I don't like is not the point of view you just stated, because I agree with you. it's the people's reaction when as I said things change. There is not always ulterior motive or beta technics. What you just said should be basic dating advices for men. Thanks for sharing it. I can rassure you for me personnaly, I do not wait and I am pretty upfront with what I want. But you put it in a really nice way :) I ll save your…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:46 AM
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Dude most of this also comes with not stating your intention from the start. So things can't change ? So every women who tell us on here they need to be friends and know their BFs first lie ? So we should come and say directly to women "I want to fuck you" ? And I will tell you something, men are humans and relationships are complicated. Imagine being in a spot of your life where you can't date someone but see her all the time. You want to date her so obviously you like her..... you naturally be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:35 AM
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hahaha I didn't know NBHBC
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 06:34 AM
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Yeah probably mostly. I mean he might be also fun, he has a nice smile and isn't deformed. My point was : we hear a lot of people on here talking about how look doesn't matter much but so many time also attacking look of men. I am lookistish but rarely attack people's look. I just find it a bit hypocrite so I made a sarcastic comment. It wasn't even really directed at you since I don't know your real point of view on the subject :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:13 AM
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He's a gross unattractive man What is important is the inside. He seduce her with his confidence and his manly way of acting ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:08 AM
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You forgot #NoHomo :o
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 06:05 AM
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So this post is humblebragging ? Or maybe you want us to tell you you're high value ? Or that your ex made a mistake ? Don't worry bro you're high value :) and your ex made a mistake :) now go out and meet women instead of doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:03 AM
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u/Electra_Cute is the one who pop up in my head when I read your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:34 PM
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So..... always the men's fault ? People having less sex --> men do not make enough effort to get sex. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:27 AM
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I don't know I am a man and I am good in bed. While I like this, I don't think it's a game changing for my love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 05:56 AM
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Sure. I think most men are selfish, especially when it comes to casual sex. By selfish I mean they put their own pleasure first which isn't bad, just a fact. For me it makes most men like orgasms and not sex. They like to masturbate inside a pussy and having an orgasm in it. They do not like sex. You don't need to be good in bed to enjoy those things. Why would most of them want to make extra effort or learn skills for people they do not care of. Women won't select their men based on bed's perfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:59 AM
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They want the ego of knowing they're the best. That's why I got told multiple times (by women) on PPD that all women simulate. I think the man ego want to know HE made you came but not really care that YOU came (if it makes sense). Now... NAMALT, especially if you have a loving bf who care about you. But even in this situation, he can be more than enough without being good in bed. That's part of my point, you could stay with someone who give you some pleasure and have other advantages without hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:53 AM
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Most men don't need/want to be good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:29 PM
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I do like sex Finding a relationship Low self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:22 AM
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take my South Park's fan upvote :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:09 AM
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If you look at the women's numbers, it's not much better. Women have it easier (at least on the number game) in the dating scene it's pretty obvious. But it's not as dramatic as you paint it. You just proved women are slighty pickier than men on likes (which also means the average guy do not like the average/ugly women....). The missing part of your thread is the success rate on those likes. Most men will fail to transform those likes. Most women could score on each date. But then come another p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:33 PM
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I completely agree with everything you just said ! My point was saying if you're billionaire giving 25k isn't charity to answer his "get this charity mentality out of your head."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 12:17 PM
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Yeah I agree, she made a wrong choice, it's her "fault". I understand why she is upset but should move on and not hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:41 AM
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However, no denying that a partner like that is never going to be warm or loving. Yeah, no matter all his good quality, this guy won't make her happy. She should chose better fit for her even if the guy is less rich. That's why I don't understand why the OP is hurt by this story...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:41 AM
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And please for the love of good, stop calling it 'selfishness' - get this charity mentality out of your head. Why ? he can want anything he wants from a relationship... see there is two kind of charity. If you have 50k in your bank account. Giving 25k is stupid. if you're a billionaire well you don't care. You can want someone who is not cheap on his/her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:15 AM
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I see financial selfishness as a dealbreaker in a partner. That's a good point for the bf in this fake story. He said it upfront. You wouldn't go in a relationship with someone who told you he/she keeps his/her money for him/her. If you go then complain... it's your own problem. The support I give to TRP POV in this case is calling out women (it could happen for men too) who want to change the relationship terms when they are aware of them from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:09 AM
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First... I think this posts are fake. Second, what does make you sick ? Those two persons were not compatible in term of what makes her happy. That's why she suffered. Now he seems to have a lot going for him that's why she struggles. Imagine (let's go with stereotype) a perfect 20 yo beauty. You fuck her daily but learn she cheat on you every week-end. I hope for you you'll dump her. Now, you're alone in your bed with your dick in your hand... and you think "did I fuck up?" you remember her nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 10:51 AM
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it's a tricky question. On look : yeah way too high. On all other things : not really (it depends the individual woman). Now about the real question, they probably have too high standards but can meet them (even for one night) so from an economic point of view no they haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 05:43 PM
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lol that's sad. i feel guilty when guys spend too much on me. And you would be angry if some wouldn't... gosh women are never happy :p AWALT i've considered this possibility, but i'm assuming that unattractive couples spend time together too lol. The same reasoning just apply with lower SMV. I do enjoy some women on an human level so I can't understand women are only good for sex. I just tried to think about what some men could think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:50 AM
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The problem is I didn't even know it was a choice or an option until way too late in my life, IMO. I am really sry to hear that... better late than never tho :) I'm just hoping that all these guys that end up on the red pill pontificating about their wife/gf's lack of sex drive would spend more time actually learning how to make it regularly enjoyable in the first place instead of whining on the internet and shoving their dick at their wife and playing mindgames. Most of those guys suffer (some …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:54 AM
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I could have had much better sex much sooner in my life. You can't have it all, you had favorise other aspect to chose your partners. It's your choice... But only on that, I agree with you, men knowing more about women's pleasure would be better, especially for women. What I disagree with is the fact that it's RP related. RP exist because women hurt men. If you don't believe that well.... you have to change your view asap if you want to discuss with good faith. Women aren't angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:28 AM
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Broke, jobless, a cheater, etc. I saw women staying with men like this who are also bad in bed. Bad sexual experiences are common enough As I said before, I am good in bed and a dom. Sex is a fondamental part of my relationships, I wouldn't stay with a woman with who it's bad (for me at least) in bed. Women aren't children, they have free will, if they stay (in the vast majority of the case, i know abusive relationships exist) it's because they want to ... You're grown adults ! While you suggest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:18 AM
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I heard women said men's only worth is to buy them things .... I think we all have stupid people in each gender. I can't believe most men think of women like this. Now some men do believe the highest worth of a woman is the sex she can give. If I want to think further, I could say some men could tell you (to answer you question) that because you're an attractive women, men see your SMV and so enjoy doing stuff with you because of your look. If you were an ugly women (so unfuckable) you wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:07 AM
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Jammerly1, I don't care if you will believe me or not but in real life.... Knowing how to give women orgasms won't make them stay / suck your dick. You apparently dated guys who didn't know how to please you, I am sry for you but we aren't all the same. I am really good in bed. If a woman isn't attracted to me, this skills is useless. If a woman is more attracted to another guy, she will leave me for him. This is real life and why TRP exist. I say this as a not Red Pill guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:55 AM
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You know most TRPer exist because some women break their heart and went to suck another guy? How the fuck knowing how your vagina work would change that ? If you can't communicate with your partners or dated assholes who didn't listen to you it's a different story. As a dom, let me give you a tips, find a safe word ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:40 AM
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If you know men who don't believe that, why do you ask to us ? Please rename your title to Q4MORONS ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:30 AM
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Religious + virgin --> really far from my unicorn definition. I am an atheist, I won't change that because it's not possible. I do not believe in god. If a woman can't accept that, no matter how good she is, it won't work. I do accept she can believe in god, my most serious exes had faith. If she wants me to lie for a wedding for example, I might do it depending on how big is her faith. If she wants to lie to her parents well... it's her choice but I won't convert for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:33 AM
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younger women are still here + breakups happen !
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 05:42 PM
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So a man is a good looking man. See this is the problem. You don't want a masculine man. you want someone you find traditionaly attractive. I am fine with that (really) what I am less fine with is the fact that this is what is concidered a man.... I hope you understand why and we won't have to go deeper in the argument. What you described isn't a more masculine man, it's jsut a good looking man.... so from OP pov, it's not the lack of masculinity, it's the lack of attractive men. thx for helping…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:37 AM
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there is no worse or better. Cheating is an asshole move doing (generaly we can talk outliers here) by selfihs people and doing a lot damage into another human being. It does hurt men AND women... EDIT : maybe I don't get your answer sry ^ ^
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 07:20 AM
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well, I invite every women with a partner to do what you said on your list and see how their bf react. This is complet BS. I think most men can accept crush happen in relationship. It's the women (or men because it happens to men too...) duty to act on this problem. Going cheating is taking a step further.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:56 AM
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Really ? see the reaction of women on here when men bring some of their issues ? An hint : people on here tell them they don't own woman's body and should go to fuck up. If anything I think it's the women on here who lack empathy for Men. However we see it often that women on here are empathetic for THEIR men (this has been said/admited enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:53 AM
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One of a few real answer ! Thanks for your input :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:06 PM
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So yeah my example holds water Not really. It's not the moment to talk about it but think more about potentials and triphase current. If I answer on this it's because i love science analogy not to argue with you ! I don't fundamentaly disagree with you. I agree men and women have basic instinct (read male /female). But the dogs comparaison is from my pov a bit far and that's why I asked for more details. Chimps would have been a better analogy but maybe i don't know enough about animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:55 AM
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Does it mean you agree with me ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:18 AM
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That's why I try to ask for consensus/ good analogy to help gender communication on here and IRL. Now... I never supported the fact that men and women are the same .. However I think people answering me didn't meet / talk / date a lot of people. I did hear men and women talking to me my all life and whatever you like it or not my examples aren't randomly chosen : we see men getting criticized for the superficial choice they want to push while women try to justify by biology their own superficial…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:36 PM
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I never said in my thread we are the same. We have obvious differences.... If you go deep into electrical engineering you'd realize that everything is just a big wire with electrons flowing into it. I would like to add that most of the law of electricity are based on conventions ! I would pick another field of science to compare men/ women. I have more in common with a male dog than a female human at the base instinct level I would like you to develop this because I don't believe this one second…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:25 PM
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If I didn't get your comment I am sry. there are innate BIOLOGICAL differences I agree with that, I don't think anyone would do. That's why I asked some consensus on analogy to not hear "it's not the same". Which tend to be used to justify hypocrisy. Where did I imply you saying that women are always hypocrites? Do NOT put words in my mouth if you actually want an honest debate That's true my bad :) okay well I'm 5'9" and I'm perfectly happy with my SO who is like 3" taller. Maybe it's just you?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:51 PM
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Life is not fair. Double standards exist. I agree with that, the point of the thread isn't fighting unfairness.... As I asked, I would have liked to have analogies which make consensus (one goal of the thread). Improving communication between us is a good way for improving our exchange on here !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:05 PM
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This post is the embodiment of autism autism ˈɔːtɪz(ə)m noun noun: autism a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by great difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people and in using language and abstract concepts. Do you mean everyone is an autist so we can't comunicate clearly why things "aren't the same" ? or the forming relationship part, if so you have to detail your point of view. If you just use autism as an insult, it's not mandatory ! Thu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:47 PM
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I knew the height thing would have being a tricky part like always. As I said I had women 4-5 inches shorter than me told me they wanted TALL guys not TALLER guys. I am still larger / stronger than most of women my height or slighty taller. when did I say women (or men) are always hypocrites ? you like what you like. We can go with boobs size if you prefer true biological differences.... I do think we have all biais and that dating isn't about moral. the "it's not the same" sentence often (from …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:21 PM
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I do not like the short / fat comparaison because one can control his weight AND the fact I see women not wanting to date chubby guys too. That's why I quote age (I could go with race too but it's less universal than men wanting date young beauty). If i said this example is because I hear women pronounced the word "need" then saying "it's not the same" while debting their view. As a short man, I do not condamn women for wanting tall guys, people want what they want. I react generaly when giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:07 AM
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Did I say "nothing is the same" between men and women? But you answer with "men and women are not the same" only which implied this state of mind. I think you took my thread the wrong way. I am not here to fight all the hyprocisies in the world. I just think there are a lot of smart people on this sub and every sides ( Reds, blues, men, women) make good points. This thread is here mostly to make me think and have others point of view in a neutral way. I gave personnal examples to start the discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:52 AM
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I agree on that, I still think we can all use our brain and change some of our view when showing some hypocrisy. I'll never ask a woman (or a man) to be attracted to what they aren't. I will never ask a man (or a woman) to get rid of all his hypocrisies. I just wanted to discuss about it and maybe find more weapons to debate hypocrisy IRL. However one can say his entitled to his own hypocrisies. I would accept this point of view in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:41 AM
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men and women are not different species. We might have differences but we are still humans. When I hear the "it's not the same" sentence, it's generaly to cut the debate and cover some hypocrisy. If you think nothing is the same it's your right tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:37 AM
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Might disagree with you here. Men, for a myriad of reasons, seem to be much better at making a 'mind-body' distinction than women. I heard TRPers said the relationship is less doomed when men cheat. I'm not sure about that, it seems a bit controversial around here. I think men tend to come back more which might save the relationship. Anyway I was more on the effect on cheating. I saw how devastating it was for men AND women. I actually think its much worse. It is but not because it's not the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:34 AM
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while a lot of women are attracted to tall guys See, men generaly are attracted to younger women so much. Is this preference universal ? You focus on what women feel, women can feel wrong you know ? I read women prefer men to be 8 inches taller, this is so huge that it can't be the norm. I talked about "tall" guy not "taller" guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:48 AM
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This is a really balanced view, I can't agree more !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:56 PM
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Projection of self value : If this guy commit to me it means I am worth it If this guy dump his gf for me it means I worth more than this girl. + Easyness: when someone is unavailable, there is no exceptation. First women know that there is no risk "it's just for fun", " I won't get attached he is not available ", "it's fine for me I am not available either". Then because some of those men are great and women aren't an uberspecies, they get attached and it's too late. In the same time when a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:10 PM
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Because loving sex and women's body is different than : Having women fighting for you Needing a fullfilling relationship full of feelings and kinda equalitarian to be trully happy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:51 PM
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It's from my memory, the fact that you have a specific kind of guy you do find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:57 PM
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What is masculine to you ? How to you sense masculin men at first sight ? From our previous exchange, I think you feel that what you find attractive is masculine, but this is a logic fallacy: I like "that" --> I think masculinity is attractive --> "that" is masculine --> men I do not like aren't the masculine and this is the biggest problem. Now... Most of what you're attracted is superficial like most human, what make you happy isn't. The real life mixes the both concept and is obviously more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:55 AM
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What an oversimplistic way of seeing things. I am a beta (in rp sense) man who like casual sex. But afterall I can't blame you When you use mbti as a way to prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:46 AM
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I think you'll find men who will pretend to offer you everything you want. I did talk to a lot of people and see some of them. I think there are a lot of different people on here. You could find almost averything but in different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:54 PM
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First, women do not have the monopoly on what is a high value man. Or maybe women aren't attracted only to high value man. Women are attracted to attractive men (it's another topic) that can also be high value or women will hamster a way to make the men they are attracted high value. The same way they would turn a nice guy into an asshole to justify not being attracted to him. Never forget women are humans ;) If you've got issues and problems your value isn't high. In my contry we have something…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:42 PM
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chester bennington ;) EDIT : maybe not the most beautiful man but def not unattractive (from an heterosexual man pov)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:25 PM
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I won't search too much into real science but here some factors that can prove you wrong : intelligence can make you depressed http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/intelligence-mental-illness-iq-study-findings-depression-a8005801.html Shortness is more likely to make you depressed https://www.vice.com/sv/article/7bd7jb/it-sucks-to-be-a-short-guy-511 Creative side can make you depressed http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/22/world/the-dark-side-of-creativity-vincent-van-gogh/index.html So now you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:10 PM
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I am sure you would be... this thread is "stupid" because no one can imagine in an objective way to lose one of the most important person in one's life..... From an objective point of view, the vast majority of people on here would suffer a lot and then move on in case of lose of a love one. That's how life works. I don't believe in the One, but I believe in one of the Ones. There are probably a lot of women with who you would be perfectly happy outside there. However it's stupid and useless to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:41 AM
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Tbh, I understand even more toward lesbian why the current dynamics of relationship between men and women is boring. So yeah I bet you could live without list but in your case it would be living without women. I don't know how many time I would have to say it : lesbians are humans too, with sexual needs and affection, cut it from them and they'll suffer a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 08:28 AM
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How many time were you single in your life? if a lot of time : how many time did you spend without men's attention, men's cocks, men's companionship ? I am really curious because I see women pretend they can live without us while the real women I know who got nothing are depressed of it. Women are humans and not some superpowered species. It's not shaming to say it... nor that women have some advantages for living as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 09:46 PM
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Did you ever use tinder ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:18 PM
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Not the place for this thread young boy. And for you if you're not a troll : stay away from the pillsphere :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:44 AM
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I don't know where will we go. However I think relationships will change. I am glad women spoke up lately because they exposed their problem and they face violent problem which should be adressed. however I think one tends to propose fake solutions which make everyone unhappy. I do believe women talks now then it will be men and hopefully we will find a solution together and finally try to understand the other sex. Right know it's about the gender war starting in the west. Let's hope we will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:17 PM
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And then the younger guys, still quite immature for men, have to compete with the guys who have full on male bodies, can grow a full beard (is this why nerds with beards are a thing now?), with careers, with experience, who have learned to drop all the weirdo shit being a nice guy comes with. Like some blues do, this paragraph is pure RedPill content. You inforce some traditional masculinity.... a man without a beard isn't a man ? A lot of women on here (blue and red) told us how they need to lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:42 AM
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We’re all obsessed with our Myers Briggs types Na 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:03 PM
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Some does! Most people (men and women) break up for no reason. Just because they do not feel it anymore. Unfortunately I learnt there is often no good reason to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:26 PM
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For me love is the most important thing. Let me explain you my pov. I am what we could call here a sensitive beta. When I date a woman or go on date with someone. She is one among many, there are a lot of amazing women out there. The thing is even those amazing women aren't perfect. For me Love is the only way to push me into fighting for a relationship. I do not need women, I have a lot of things to worry about and do for me to put some energy elsewhere. However to be fullfilled I know I need a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:49 AM
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Something I do not understand, you said : they have no power over me then I want to be able to game/dominate/spar Are you sure you do not want to be more submissive (in bed or emotionaly) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:22 AM
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1) express what you want (and of course be what your date want) 2) no second chance 3) don't waste time on someone who isn't really into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:15 PM
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I always want to ask to women like you : what do you think of the "nice guys TM". This idea that men become friends first with other motivation ? Or do you believe none of your exes were interested in you first ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:42 PM
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dates, days, weeks, months ? I don't know, you're the one who need trust. I do trust my partners from the first second so I do not understand this need
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:23 PM
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I didn't know, sry for the mistake. The question still applies. How many time it takes for you to trust a woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:44 PM
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I didn't know, sry for the mistake !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:43 PM
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How many time it takes for you to trust a man ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:13 PM
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If he's not good at oral sex or she can't relax enough to orgasm during oral sex, then she doesn't get an orgasm there either Etc That's something most women on here are sensitive about.... meet men with more skills. Women love to pretend they are metaphysical creature when it comes to some subjects : sex is one of them. But as you said you are machine like us :) Before getting butthurt answers .... I say it directly : it's not a bad thing. It's pretty egalitarian (since it's who I am). No criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:51 AM
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Maybe he's talking about how some women or some media coverage That's my point from the beginning.... the equivalent in france of #metoo was : #reportyourpig, way more violent. One day during a debate between women in France where one feminist bring the fact this movement might be dangerous long term (with law, the fact that it's violent against some men if fake delation pop), anoter woman throw "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs" talking about men..... This made one friend of min…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:55 AM
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Wow .... I am sry you had to deal with that.... men can be indeed really rude. Forget them ! (the mean one not all of us)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:16 AM
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Men say outright all the time how yucky or great small or big boobs are... So different men express different preferences ? we both know when it comes to height it usually only one way ;) But yeah men can be rude I really don't doubt it (I have enough women friends), I never hear people saying men are conditioned to preserve women's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:14 AM
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I am sorry to hear that dude ! how did you react ? My exp is generaly great (I am a cute guy and I have a lot going for me so I can compensate) but yeah being a short guy sucks for dating (a lot of good points about being short in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:12 AM
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I don't doubt she does it ! that's why I am curious. Yeah it is, I stoped trying to understand/argument about it....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:10 AM
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The "it's not you, it's me" is (in my exp) more often use to breakup with someone (men and women). The women who lied to me did it to not appear shallow not for my feelings. One more time.... most women were normal and polite to me (which doesn't preserve my feelings either but is normal)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 08:06 AM
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But what specifically about the "me too" movement is negative generalizations about men? The movement is about individual experiences. The opposite of broad generalizations. It's like you don't actually know what "me too" means, but you've definitely heard of it and that's good enough to complain about it. Maybe we do not have the same medias coverage of this movement.... I think you're the one who do not understand the possible problem with #metoo. I spend my time saying to you I support the vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:22 PM
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Just one question (a bit off topic). Did it change your view about your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:39 PM
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You seem to have crossed especially mean women. I am sry for you dude !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:38 PM
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Thx for sharing your experience !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:36 PM
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First since I am an human it's not my "fee-fees" but my feelings. Second as I told you... It's not about women talking about sexual assault but how women talk about men lately. I don't understand how you can't see the difference... Third being under the automod shouldn't make you be able to move the goal post :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:34 PM
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I do personnaly prefer the truth than sugar coated words. So women do that more to protect themselve than as an act of submission or by being conditioned ? The kind of people who are mean to waiters/etc are probably the kind of people who would be mean to someone they disagreed with. 100% agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:15 PM
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That's such an extreme expectation though And not my own exceptation... You'll never see me say women should preserve men's feelings all the time. If I don't want to discuss the root of the #metoo movement, it's to avoid you to move the goal post. Make a thread about it and I ll gladly speak my mind. What I get from your answers is you disagree with the title and women aren't conditioned nor pushed to care or protect men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:11 PM
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Thx for giving an example which is not my exp :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:50 PM
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When the fuck did I say that ? 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:45 PM
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that's on you. That's the point of this post.... So women do not do stuff to preserve men's feelings ? I am not making it a debate about #metoo nor what should we do about this problem (yeah there is a problem)....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:45 PM
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Not really, since I even was saying I am glad women spoke up when they were the victims. My point was in terms of form. The gross generalisation about men, the violent words, the lack of thinking in term of global interaction. So no I am not sad that victims talk about predators. I regret how women talk about men (huge difference). And if you think all men are pigs and do not think about how it makes most men feel well... You just continue to make me experience what I experience. It's not bad by…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:17 PM
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Well that's not what I said ! But sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:57 PM
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I made an Edit for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:56 PM
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Thx for giving your point of view on this topic :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:49 PM
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When this subject is about you ? When did someone said men are conditioned to preserve women's feelings ? We can talk about your topic but it's not what I asked. An hint: read the title....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:38 PM
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As the flair says, it's a discussion.... So my title (the subject) match with what I said (my exp). My exp doesn't match the title but I do not have enough information to say my exp is the truth (or it would be a cmv). I want the opinion of ppd's people. I thought you were smart enough for me to do not need to "quote" my title
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:35 PM
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well coming to a woman and ask her if she wants to fuck you is a terriiiiiible idea..... We (most men at least) have to cover some of our desires if we want to get laid. it doesn't mean we have to be assholes or compromise on ethics. A woman on the other hand can be direct and honnest... that's the good side of having sex on demand. Try to be in most men's shoes sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:16 PM
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For me it's not only about the sucessfull guys. It's the guy who is older and has a car, it's the older guy who want to show you around when you travel etc... It's not bad, as Electra_cute said it's perfectly fine. I just have a problem when women suggest they inerently mature faster as if they were better. I heard that all my life and I was always (because of personnal reason) ahead in life with people my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:15 PM
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Thx 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:14 PM
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Let me try to give you an example to make my point. If you say (not you you, i don't know How you look up) something like "wow i love older men because they saw the world they are more mature and interesting". men your age like yourself can't do it because it takes times and money and indeed having a bit more of experiences. When you date the older guy he will likely take you on trip and you will use his ressources (in this case traveling experiences) to grow up faster than men your age. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:12 PM
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Yes but I don't understand what it means to you to be mature. I often hear women making the following equivalent: mature = boring too. So I would love to have your point of view on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:56 PM
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See that's the problem to me. Achieving something takes time and effort. You use what the men did by themselve to help pursuing your own path. Men do not have this luxury. Don't you think most of us would like using women achievement to do more ? I don't believe you need to... I think it's indeed better and you can have it because you're a woman. It's not a problem with men. It's women who are luckier in this department. But good for you. I heard all my life this maturity bs. Always made me mad …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:54 PM
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What is your equal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:50 PM
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Read the threads !
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:16 PM
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Not really the place to ask dude (for your own sake 😁)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:00 PM
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That's something which baffle me all the time. They are designed to cater to the strong , not the weak. What is strong / what is weak for you ? Humans are complex creature and SMP is only a part of us mostly based on look. There are stronger / better humans who have trouble in their sex life. Women don't choose men they fucked based on what is good/best. They fuck the one they find attractive. Same for us, I can't count the number of useless women I wanted to fuck....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:16 AM
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That's one of the most RP thing ever said lol I am a man, I do enjoy casual sex but heavily prefer long term relationship. Why can't I find a woman like this ? Plus, here, where I live, everyone almost have tinder/tried it. I met different kind of women there. It became really mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:43 PM
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Ok, women on here seem to have "woman up" lately and grew a pair. Let them pretend that "slut shaming" doesn't affect women and that everyone think like most of them. Now.... I do not see where people think it's more ok to make fun of virgin anywhere. Nor that women do it more than men make fun of slut. What you really want to ask is: Why is it more "acceptable" to be a "slut" than being a "virgin". well ... because of the consequence. Like most things when it comes to relationships : because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:38 PM
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Yes, you're right about what you want (I ain't in your head !). I wanted to pointed out that attention from unattractive (to you) men isn't important here (which is another subject). You have access easily to men you do find attractive even if you do not want them !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 06:06 PM
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I agree with that. It doesn't make women happier but it does help them move forward. Because it's not that hard for most women to find men they find attractive wanting to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 12:53 PM
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One more time it's not the question. We all know (because you're a woman) you do not find most men attractive. The question is how easy is it for you to at least find one of them who want to sleep with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 12:52 PM
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While I disagree with that it's not really the question. The point is saying that if you leave a man you find attractive (for whatever reason, even stupid ones), you'll find easily other (at least to fuck you) men you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:08 AM
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Na
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:54 PM
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So men shouldn't be more and more frustrated with dating and find their equivalent on the SMP. Which is apparently not the case (well I am not sure about it tbh... I don't have numbers to back up that only the PPD claim). From my life (and only this one) I can't stop to think I ll never be enough for women because of their requierement. Now, I am not a TRPer, so I am not mad at women for what they like. I still think it's a problem for my own life as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:15 PM
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Isn't it the same for women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 04:38 PM
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I do not say that having a tiny cock is great nor that you shouldn't complain for obvious reason..... I say you can have an amazing sex life (even using toys as you suggest) with it !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:37 AM
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I did love it ! Merci :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:27 PM
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THinking yo can sustain a relationship giving more orgasms to your girl than every other big dicked guys isn't a one-way ticket to Cck-ville. Lets be honnest, most men use women as a masturbation meat bag. this isn't the most pleasant act ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:57 PM
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that's stupid. I am a sex god with a big penis. What works the best on women : fingers and tongue. Learn to give orgasms before complaining about your tiny dick
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:41 PM
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what about black people who aren't american ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:32 PM
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you know that there are contries with almost almost nothing but black people. You can go there, it would probably solve most of your aggressive tendency !
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:26 PM
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aren't you a black racist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:21 PM
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+1
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 03:35 PM
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J'adore cette réponse <3 Je suis fier de toi :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:38 PM
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Hey ! Si tu regardes ma réponse, je la trouve plutôt honnête ! Moi je pense que Paris est la meilleure ville au monde mais je sais que c'est pas le cas de tout le monde (j'ai vécu en province aussi). HAHAH j'adore la question de l'américain ^
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:37 PM
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je savais que ça allait plaire à certains ! au final on est quelques français/francophones dans le coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:20 PM
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hahaha ! pourquoi ?:'(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:09 PM
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Avec plaisir, je ne connaît personne qui parle francais en real-life. : ( Si un jour tu veux pratiquer le français, viens sur IRC. C'est avec plaisir que je te parlerai ! Est Paris comme nos étrangers imaginent? Comme un rêve? Paris est une très belle ville mais... beaucoup de gens ne supportent pas y vivre ou même y passer du temps : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:08 PM
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5 long legs, a big strong body, no head. I am almost dating her right now except one of her legs is shorter than the others :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:00 PM
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Non je ne me moquerai pas ! J’apprécie que tu participes :D Je suis d'ailleurs étonné de voir qu'il y a plusieurs personne qui connaissent un peu de français sur PPD. J'habite sur Paris, je passe devant Notre Dame régulièrement. Cependant ça doit faire 15-20 ans que je ne suis pas rentré à l'intérieur.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:41 PM
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Priviet ! kak dila ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:27 PM
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hahaha ne t’inquiète pas je ne t'en veux pas :) Je me plains car je suis français. Je regrette juste de ne pas toujours pouvoir participer comme je le veux aux discussions qu'on a sur IRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:24 PM
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Il faut avouer que notre langue rend les choses tellement plus belle. Je regrette que les autres ne puisse comprendre ! Mais merci pour ces quelques mots :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:18 PM
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Je sais !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:15 PM
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Je vais très bien merci et toi ? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:15 PM
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Je te laisse faire ton coming out et apprendre le français !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:15 PM
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hahahahaa je ne connaissais pas mais j'aime !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 12:18 PM
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:D I knooooow you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:36 AM
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why do you identify as a man while we all know you're a woman :s ?#antitrans
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:48 PM
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that's life my friend. At least I have easy dates :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 06:43 PM
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yeah... reality check :) I look def worse in person !
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 05:22 PM
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Na... What are you doing here ? What did I tell you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 07:01 AM
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Tinder is a special place. Never in my life I think a woman have concider me having a greek god top look. However, I managed to find picture where I look cute, put a cocky message which brings interest and it works. if I concider everything I hear. I probably do better than the vast majority of men (I have around 700 matches right now). let's make it perfectly clear. Tinder do not change the reality check. I could probably manage to have more dates than I could prossibly manage without make it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 05:47 AM
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Lewis. Tinder matches =/= being top men. but related to good pictures. I am a good exemple of that ! Women told you this enough. they do not care about picture when the reality pop up. Plus on Tinder you do not see important things like what you do in life / your height. Both important factors to score.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:14 PM
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hahahaha I love that :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 12:19 PM
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having the man they want / more independance in their day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:46 AM
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Devastated :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 04:58 AM
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Doesn't mean you were great if they thought any random guy would be better. didn't talk about random guy. Didn't say I was great enough. I've been dumped by men and unlike you I acknowledge it must be on me. Never you hear me it wasn't my fault. I just say I was a good bf, not good enough maybe, not being a good person enough for them. You just assume I've got dumped because I wasn't a good BF, which is not the truth. It's like you're refusing to recognize your flaws. This is another stupid sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:19 PM
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And this is a stupid sentence if you do not know me :) How many women did you know leaving perfectly good bf because they "wanted to" or because they "felt it's the right choice" ? The most logical explanation is my exes left me to find something better. They took the bet. doesn't mean I wasn't a good BF :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:09 PM
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I 100% agree. I support your choice to choose someone you want and I do not judge your choice. As a "high" N-count guy (by the definition of this thread), I wanted to give a different point of view !
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:32 PM
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let me be perfectly clear one more time. you're perfectly right to be entitled to everything dealbreaker you want ! if you do not like my N-count or anything you want about me or any other men. I do not try to chance what you want ! My is to point you out that this sentence : just that you have a view of sex that's incompatible with my own. Is completely false. As I said I am a sensitive man, relationship oriented. I have a high view of sex, which is often higher than people with low N-count. Ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:15 PM
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THis is your experience, I don't know you so I ll take your word for granted. I wish you to not experience if I was right or not ! If it's really a matter of bad luck for you, Luck do not explain everything. However it has nothing to do with my capacity of wanting an LTR or being a good comited BF.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:48 PM
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We're two very different animals. No we're not and I ll explain you why. I've been in a relationship for 6+ years, That's great. I didn't have this chance even if I started my first LTR at 17. Planned to be married and offer exclusivity to each women I liked in my past. I don't plan to have another relationship and will lead a solitary lifestyle. That's something you have no idea of. Until proved otherwise you're human and I wouldn't make claim on the future if I was you ! Some women won't mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:35 PM
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The record you have is against your word. Not at all, it's just you do not know me :) but that's ok we're on internet. My reccord is all in favor of what I claim to be. When someone has a high N count it means--for one reason or another--they struggled to either maintain or desire a long-term relationship. That's when I guess you're young, a relationship is something you have together. I can't maintain a relationship by my own. most of my LTR faillure were due to women leaving me. You claim to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:18 PM
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what do you mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:05 PM
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The main raison is the couple women I would have happily spend my life with dumped me :) Another reason is the fact most women do not want to LTR every men. So while I know I need love and stable relationship to be fulfill. I am not monomaniac and can enjoy fling / ONS. So i prefer to enjoy a moment with a woman I like even if I know nothing would come after that than having nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:27 AM
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Experience and personnal belief. It's not even a good thing to be like me. I just pointed out that you can be like me and still enjoy casual sex / have relative high N-count
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:25 AM
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I am a man. I ll probably push over 20 N count pretty soon. Your question is like the question about the high N count women... you looking at this is probably BS, however you are entitled to any dealbreakers you want. I am (only based on my N count) unattractive to you, however I am probably more sensitive / more relationship oriented / more faithfull than most of your exs/future bf. Basing your view on a man only with his N count is BS....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:45 AM
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Yes i am a good Person!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:16 PM
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Sexism exists, it's a fact. But you're playing the "who has it worse game" ..... I am short and look quiet young. I do not count the time I have to affirm myself and avoid people who try to fuck me. How many time when I am in charge people do not think it's me... How many time I have to fight to earn respect or show incredible results compare to taller / more mature looking guys. Why do I say all of that ? Because all of this doesn't change sexism. Because sexism exist doesn't mean my real life …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 02:37 PM
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Bottom tier of what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:47 AM
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it works pretty well on here when men share their insecurities ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:46 AM
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hahahaha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:45 AM
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Men are less picky when it comes to casual Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:38 AM
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I think it's an interesting point ! Men might need to be a little less hang up on performances while any women try to teach them. Women aren't all the same and might love different things. Having open sexual discussion is a must have for me to be fulfill in bed !
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 03:01 PM
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Your argument just point out that women make bad choice when it comes to the sexual skills of their casual Partners. Among the huge pool of available Sex Partner for most women. I am sure they can avoid to make it shitty. My other Problem is, men Do not have vagina.... That's a shame for my heterosexual self
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 01:30 PM
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Oh Of course, your idea is : a minimum of style is enough where you live. I never said you were wrong (i believe you), i said it's not the case here so I am curious :) Nothing against you or your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:19 AM
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Where as even an average guy wearing a blazer/sports coat that fits well on him with jeans and a shirt and he's bound to get attention and that interest from women. Where i live this part is a joke so I was curious 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:10 AM
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A quick question, Where do you live ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 06:28 AM
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But still then, it's hard to find someone you truly match with. This kind of sentences always surprise me. Don't you think men face the same problem ? Yes match and finding a compatible partner is the most difficult things for both gender. We're all here. However women have a huge advantage for anything else (in the relationship field obviously :) ).... It's not because you can run a marathon yet that you should complain about your 20k time to someone who barely finish the 10k.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:54 AM
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Unfortunately, I do believe women are just humans. Their choices aren't made to improving our species. Especially in those days and age. I do not think eugenism made by women would improve what humans are....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 03:50 PM
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The real question is... what is a superior man ? I would like to see how your mating choices match with the improvement of our species
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 07:32 AM
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That's funny. Do you think I (as a single man with dating dificulties) only focus on the top 5% of women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 10:32 AM
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I don't know how is okc for women. But motivate her to tinder and she ll get laid more than ever :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 03:00 PM
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I agree with everything you said. I am for exemple high Libido and high romance. I was curious to know if you imagine it possible. Yeah compatibility is really important. In our exemple, we could fuck but Not date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 12:04 PM
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Do you think wild sex and flufly love are incompatible ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:05 AM
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Very nice comment and Very well said without animosity :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:50 AM
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I d advice them to try tinder especially for the hookup part! It won't make them beautifull but It might help. I saw too many ugly/fat women doing well there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:48 AM
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Do they have Tinder ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 07:15 AM
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I can't agree more on your point 2 :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:30 AM
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Hahaha I see. Thx for your input ! Wish you a lot of love and success in your relationship fellow PPDer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:51 AM
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You said You swipe left on your now gf. If I believe you it's because she had unflatering picture. I would like to know compare to you how much it decreased her chances at online dating. We all know online dating is "easier" for women. But it is (for me at least) interesting to have opinion from an happy couple
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:39 AM
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And we're all happy for you (no kidding). The discussion around here often sumarized by asking you: what did you do for that ? Is it because you build it or because you won the genetic lotery and not a fucking faillure ? If you're in the first case you can rich, in the second case, well... it's like rich Kids saying "men i am rich. Look my amazing car daddy bought me"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:35 AM
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Out of curiosity, did you compare your experience with online dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:28 AM
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She looks to have a great body indeed. However that's not the picture which was shown before ;) On the pics above She has a normal face nor below average nor stuning. And I think my perception of women looks is acurate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:38 PM
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Do you realize that a man Who can know a female is average / below average and still want to fuck her. I am the first one saying i Do Not have high standard. However i won't pretend I only fuck models. Women are the picky gender 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:33 PM
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Do you like her face ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:37 PM
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Thabks for the discussion. You're right, it's really hard to compare the both experience. I do believe both sex enjoy sex and want to be attractive (as pointed out by other women above too). That's why I try to go through this prism. But I am confident one day we will be able to make each other understand fully our point of view ! And for it to be clear, no women haven't a perfect life. And I am happy to be a man even if part of it "sucks" !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:00 AM
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Solipsism. That's when I half agree. I understand women's point of view about sex offer means nothing. However, as I said and from personnal experience, refusing to have sex with a woman is a huge hit on a woman's ego. Exactly. You. So, if men wouldn't have sex with you, you wouldn't feel undesirable ? that's the men's point of view I try to point out. And one more time, looking at a woman and say "I can't have sex with you" IS a huge problem. Personally I value intercourse as much as I do kissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:28 PM
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Doesn't pass what bar? Being "willing to spread her legs"? Well, that's up to her. the bar meaning, a man do not want to fuck her. Maybe, but wishful thinking isn't going to change reality. A woman is not going to value the fact that somewhere out there there is a man, or probably several men, desperate enough for sex to overlook the fact that she is not really attractive to them. I agree with you. I do believe humans want to be attractive to the opposite sex and value intercourse. We have just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:43 PM
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Also, I've been rejected by men before, most if not all women have. We get over it. Who do you think I am ? You want us to play who was rejected more ? do you think I know no women in the real life? We get over it. You really, seriously believe I didn't get over the dozens of women who rejected me in my life ? Seriously.... For me personally, I do not put a high value on sexual intercourse this was the sentence I was answering. If you don't value intercourse, I do believe it means you take this …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:36 PM
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What if she doesn't pass the bar ? Even if I unterstand your point, I think most women (because they're human) take for granted what they have. You do not valuate what you have but it doesn't mean it's Not valuable....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:39 PM
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That's because you know you have this interest. How would you react if the low bar guy wouldn't want to fuck you ? How would you react if you get rejected by most of the picky guy ? Now... From a man pov, women love Sex and Show sexual interest (schoking news I know) so there is value for the women interest. That's why most men crave it. I was reacting to electra_cute because she said she put little value in intercourse while I trink it's a (huge) part of the attraction field. People (men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:36 PM
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I can't agree more :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:28 PM
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As someone else said it's a balance. I am really aware about it. I fully agree with you about the liking part. Let me rephrase what I said, intercourse is a way to Show you're attractive enough to the point someone want to touch you. I think it's important for men and women. But I unterstand and women shouldn't probably feel the top of the cream if a guy want to fuck you. For me it's a rich Problem (still a problem since we experience dating scene in a different way)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:27 PM
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Like the vast majority of human. Don't you see how this concept (being attractive) is tied with intercourse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:11 PM
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Do you not put a value on being attractive for the opposite Sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:02 PM
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Hahaha !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:39 AM
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Please note that I didn't make any kind of value judgment on men. True, and I share your point of view. your sentence is 100% true. I just wanted to add my opinion. You seem to be under the impression that I am a blue piller. I don't and to be honnest don't care :p if someone say something true blue or red I take it. Whether or not playing the game hurts men's self-esteem is besides the point and beyond the scope of the original question. Kind of... "confidence" as too many people here say is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:26 AM
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Yeah that's true and it's the way to go. I am a good example of this however..... You (and some women on here ) have to understand something. When you are out and genuinely try to get laid, you offer yourself as a man. if you are nice (and I mean normal nice aka not percieve women as a hole you try to fill), the amount of rejection hurt. You are out there with no self esteem boost getting rejected for who you are. The only effective coping mechanism is deshumanizing women and playing the number …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:58 AM
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thanks for the precision. One more time, turn your question as you want but listen me. there is no correlation about pleasure you can give, being better, sexual skills, pleasure and look. Obviously if you're a troll and women are disgusted by you touching them will have negative impact...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 09:03 AM
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There is NO FUCKING correlation between look and sexual skills. 2.Being good looking isn't a curse. But good looking people are humans with insecurities too. They have to deal with it tho like the ugly one ^
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:57 AM
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Yes. But you ll have to play the number game. The women on here it's boring and useless but there is nothing much except that you can do !
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:32 AM
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Look =/= sexual skills.... We had this discussion before. I am sure some "not good enough" men could make you scream of pleasure for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:26 PM
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17 Yes but no and no Nothing had change No correlation between the two since I lost my virginity at an average age. It would have probably been different if I have had stay virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:50 PM
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Ooh backpedaling a little? no... maybe I expressed myself poorly, sorry. I am saying that the appeal of a monogamous relationship is mostly all the "not sex" part. Sex is still verry important. I still don't understand how you can't see why some men want to be in a relationship.... If you could get laid as consistently with tinder youd do it I do it when I want to .... and mostly when I do not want a relationship (because you know it happens too... I am human)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:23 PM
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saying sex is part of the relationship isn't the same as saying sex IS the relationship.... how is it even an argument on your part ? And if I want to be in a monogamous relationship it's mostly for what there is next to the sex yes. As you said yourself, if I want to only get my dick wet... there is Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:16 PM
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I'm sure you can rationalize your decision whichever way you want to. If I could rationalize my love decisions I wouldn't be on here :p Which why monogamy is incredibly appealing No it's not why monogamy is incredibly appealing to me, sorry to disappoint you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:02 PM
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So why do you believe that men who can get casual sex don't have theù and don't want to spend time with only one woman ? If you say that attractive men are more picky --> OK If you say that some unattractive men settle for women just for sex --> meh maybe sometimes Saying that men who can get casual sex do not go inside relationship is just... wrong. Being monogamous is a state of mind which is not related with being able to get casual sex. FYI : I can get casual sex an I ain't high SMV (yes it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:50 PM
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Did you ever have feelings ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:42 PM
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that's really what you believe in ? NO MEN (or to not be extrem less than 10%) who can get casual sex have feelings and want to be monogamous ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:30 PM
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So... you're telling that no men who can get casual sex is you know... monogamous with feelings ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:25 PM
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I'd say 5/10. I think I am below average but people on here would nicely say I am wrong. I can't find picture of my hairs since it changes often and I have different style but mostly City guy casual or business. No I'd say 13. Some are tricky between relationship and casual sex. I would count 6 Lately not much to be honnest except going out. Not really. It was a special period for me so I can't really answer. Plus I was in a LTR my two first years after HS. No and no Depends what you call better…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:19 AM
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Male Purple pill 15-20 minutes with couple tinder hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 03:28 PM
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that's my expectation for my relatiobships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:00 AM
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When you feel that everything you can say / do is normal and will be taken amazingly well. No game, no trick. To quote one famous PPD sentence, you meet one of the right (and I insist on it since I have stoped believing in The One when I was 16) person when you can "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 11:03 AM
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the most obvious is saying he is 39 and still have time to reproduce and/or get children on the side (it wouldn't be the first president to do it). Remember me when Trump got his last son ? So I repeat, unless you read the futur, you can't tell me he isn't going to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:05 AM
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because you're a nice person I will answer you with more details than my answer to the other guy. You realize Macron is not bound to his death to his wife ? You realize that his sperm will work perfectly fine if he divorce? So unless you can read the future, I don't see how you can pretend he is a genetic dead end. It's just plain stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:56 PM
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I do not fail to understand... it makes NO SENSE. To prove me it's not your brain who is damaged and yo're indeed 15yo. I am giving you an assignement, you have to make a logic argumentation about Macron which can answer to your first comment. he's 39 divorce happen (we ain't all live in concervative countries) Look on internet on how to make babies And this is the hardest one look in a dictionary the word "cuckold" When you did all of that I ll let you answer your first comment by yourself ! yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:54 PM
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I am waiting this moment :D (look how afraid I am ! ) Until then you can learn that any developped country has its GDP diversified. Tourism is important indeed but not enough to be afraid that muricans do not come anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:13 PM
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BTW : I thought this thread was to realese tension. Another murican will have his hand broke by a French :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:09 PM
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during the one time I went on vacation there You know what we say about tourists ! Sorry made terrible choices of restaurants !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:07 PM
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You just prove that you do not know French cuisine ! that's why you find it overrated ! But it's never late to learn ! You talked about gastronomic cuisine but guess what. Real life in France isn't Ratatouille !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 10:59 PM
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Thanks for the call :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 10:58 PM
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Your answer makes literaly no sense ! two options there : you have no brain or you're 15 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 10:53 PM
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too long to read right now but I ll do it and I ll be back to you ! I am glad to know each man in a monogamous relationship isn't Alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 08:04 PM
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That's why I won't say your scenario is impossible just wrong from my point of view. We already break most of the social rules of mariage with our presidents. But yeah I can't predict what would happen if one candidat is gay ! e're not talking about huge parts of the french populace, just enough to take him down a notch. 4% is almost 17% of his voters. It's pretty huge if you concider who voted for him and the overall situation Fillon / Le Pen / no socialist candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:54 PM
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alpha behaviours are specifically tingle generators. And your mistake is to think Macron doesn't because he CHOOSE to marry his wife. You bring YOUR own desire into someone else. do what the fuck you want is not alpha. I am pretty sure that leading the life you want by your own term is pretty alpha but maybe I missread TRP !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:45 PM
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well .... by definition Incel means involuntary Celibate. So.... I ll answer "No !".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:34 PM
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Inconcevable of course not. but knowing the fact Macron's voter mainly come from cities / upper middle class and knowing how much support France give to gay wedding, I think it would had still passed the second turn. losing 4% is pretty hard. It asked Fillon to be a fucking trash to do it. you have to realized, most concervative people still voted for Fillon and Le Pen. Your political scenario is wrong because highly unlicky within the information we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:25 PM
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thx :D I think TRPers can't love !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:20 PM
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you're wrong about the political scenario. However even in the case of him being gay, it doesn't explain why he chose this woman. this discussion is a bit off topic. If he was gay I do believe he would have acted like Trump an took a trophy wife(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:19 PM
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Yes he could get whatever he want. You try to argue what you want. He wanted this woman and got it. Apparently he still does. It's pretty alpha in a rp sense.... I don't see how you could argue otherwise....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 03:53 PM
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Seriously.... An alpha isn't someone Who do what the fuck he wants ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:11 PM
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Can't say it better :D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 09:00 AM
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I can believe that, That's why I understand why some women want a relationship to have sex. Sex isn't just puting a cock in a pussy, it needs communication and openess to be good ! I also share the opinion of most women Who say orgasms isn't a must have to good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:01 AM
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Know that I appreciate all your inputs ! we're in a debate sub, I am not a woman, of course I try to argue about my point of view and maybe sometimes learn something. It's not about my ego, I have no doubt about my sexual skills, nor that it matters right now. I would be really really surprised that women can fake what I can feel. PIV is also special, a lot of women I met needed to rub their clit during PIV to reach orgasm. Most of the time when I give orgasms it's with my fingers / oral. that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 06:25 AM
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It's not about contractions, it's about the spasms I feel when most women "orgasms" (because apparently they all fake it). it is, amazing. i couldn't do it with any of my muscles. It just makes me so curious, I want to put a finger inside those women (not in a sexual way I promise) and see how convincing they are. When a woman have an orgasm with me, I see high speed spasms from vagina, abs, sphincter, and increase of heart rate. Except for the vagina (because I don't have one), I have every oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:34 AM
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You're all amazing fakers :) However, we will never sleep together or be together for you to show me how you can make vibrate / spasms a lot of your internal muscles in the same time. As I said, I didn't realized how women are amazing humans with such a good control of their body ! But good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 01:02 AM
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I'm not personally into ONS A lot of people aren't, I can understand why ! Vaginal spasms are very easy to fake I am glad to know women can control their blood stream in their clit and make the lips and clit "bigger", make their vagina and lower abs vibrate / shake like they have a seizure. You're amazing creatures !
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 08:23 PM
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I'm not who you asked I know but it was the main goal of my comment ! I am not here to judge you and you can do whatever you want and what you think is the best for you. But I understood from your answer than women don't have ONS because they don't have orgasms and fake it.... I disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 08:01 PM
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From my experience, look is absolutely not related to sexual skills ! there are good looking women who love sex and are great at it and there as ugly women who sucks at it. I have to admit I never fucked models tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:47 PM
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thx for the answer :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:35 PM
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it's not stupid and I don't judge you. I was curious. You didn't answered my question. If you could have orgasms, would you like ONS ? , so my guess is that most fake it during a ONS I had ONS who didn't orgasm, gfs who didn't get off sometimes. BUT, I think I know when a woman has an orgasm. Unlike you tell me most women can simulate vaginal spasms and extrem soakness. When you know how to please women you can give orgasm to most women. You're humans too. And even it's granted that I am a sex g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:28 PM
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I’d honestly just rather watch Netflix by myself than fake an orgasm with some random guy from Tinder. Netflix alone any day. What if you had an orgasm ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:07 PM
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Never ever in your life you were single and thought :"I just want to see if I could seduce this guy" / "I want to feel attractive" / "I don't care right now and I will see what happen" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:18 PM
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You laugh at every Person who has different trouble than you ? We don t talk only about sex... As you said you never experienced never being desire. Try to be open minded You seem to be a mean Person (and it's not related to your gender)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:00 PM
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There is something I don t understand. Most women who criticize TRP say women dating life isn t that easy and you have your own trouble. Yet you try to dismiss the TRP view saying women s life is and will always be easy as fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:41 AM
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Height is nothing more than one of the traits in the mix of physical attractiveness for a male. I disagree with that. For most women it's really important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:48 PM
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Yes, it's not the norm I agree 100% and get my fair share of rejection for being short. Just wanted to point out it does happen in real life for your own curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:47 PM
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that's because they want a man most women desire and taller the better for most women. I don't know how many inches taller you do need tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:46 PM
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that's why you should be on PPD :) I had several taller women !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:44 PM
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because you are shallow sluts. as we are shallow pigs. Time to be honnest and don't pretend one gender is better than another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 11:30 PM
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We're dreamers trying to improve the world on here \0/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:47 PM
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BiggerD, how many time are you (were you) rejected for something outside of your control ? Let's say, a short guy get rejected 60% of the time because of his height. He still can get women, but don't you think it gets on him ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:56 AM
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Because like everything in life, some are lucky others aren't. Do you excel in everything in life ? don't you need to practice on some field of you life? TRP isn't for me but if it helps some guys .... why not. TRPer should however take some steps back about what they read. TRP and PPD can be hard to read and have negative outcome on one's mind
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:41 AM
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Thx :D met couple of them. They do exist !
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:35 AM
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I've just never heard vitriol like the posts the YouTube video shows. I believe you about that. Youtube / internet speeches are always harder. I heard women being pretty mean. But I don't generalyze, I want to say that you don't need all the women to be arsh to have negative effect on men's mind. People do try to downplay looks when they're being nice, like your mom telling you it's what's on the inside that counts. That's what I mean. One more time, most women who crossed my life hasn't much to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:10 AM
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Do you think women are more likely to be blunt to men? I was reacting to your sentence which said you never heard a woman being cruel about men's height IRL. I do think women lie more than men IRL and are less honnest BECAUSE I deal with them in the dating pool. it's a perfect exemple of confirmation biais from my part, I admit it. when I think I think men and women are hyporctics when it comes to be honnest about rejection. "Usually I don't date short guys" seems pretty innocent to me if it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:39 AM
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The things is women are guilty of lying to some extend. I say women because I have to deal with them in my dating life. Men are probably the same don't get me wrong. I know it because you're guilty of it too sometimes here. Having preferences / requierements is fine (nobody should be forced to date someone one doesn't want). BUT... look how you react sometimes here "you have no dating sucess because your lack of social skills, because you're a mygonistic asshole" etc... while it can be true and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:25 AM
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I've never heard, IRL, a woman be cruel about a man's height. Expressing preferences, yes, but not cruelly. Are you a short guy ? I am and did hear it. Or even if it's not in a cruel way. Let me ask you something. Some of my gfs told me in front of me "usualy i don't date short guys", " I prefer taller". While it's the truth and I have accepted this long time ago, how would you react if you SO look you in the eyes and told you balantly that you're not what he preferes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:16 AM
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for me : cute, into me, faithfull, curious, open minded, open sexually, can follow a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:04 AM
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are you whining / bitching about whiny men ? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:26 AM
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Yes we do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:44 AM
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IQ for intelligence Symetrical Features for attractiveness Mating choices correlated with money / height / studies Racial discrimination studies Those are exemples of studies showing we aren't equal and there are leagues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:55 PM
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+1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:57 AM
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I do know it might happen. I myself went through a period like that recently. I try to not make generalities on here (even if it's hard). I still think most people are human with feelings and developp crush pretty often. Which make me believe that most of the time people saying "I want to stay single" means "I don't want a relationship with you". I suffered from this too with some of my exes. It doesn't mean it's bad, we all search happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:22 AM
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Even if I think you're right about TRP. I do also believe this OP. I don't buy (and for both gender) the "I don't want a relationship". For me it means the other person isn't good enough to keep
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:28 AM
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Is the guy needy when he hasn't seen me in 3 days and hugs me tight and says "OMG I missed you"? The type who likes to cuddle, who calls me to know about my day and to see if I made it home ok? The type who makes sure I understand that he wants to be a part of my life? Gimme that needy guy any day. There is a "Problem" with that. This isn't being nice, it's caring about someone. And it often has the same consequences as being ""needy" aka "I feel he cares too much about me while I feel a bit dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:09 AM
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Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:09 AM
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We do, both gender can appreciate a personality in a romantic way. When I like my gfs for Who they are it's really her that I like and it's not the same thing as how I like my friends (men or women). So no men aren t liked for Who they are when being friends or orbiters. I do not support lazy People either and that is what most men try to tell you. You can be a fit man and not be sucessfull in a romantic way. If you talk about fat People ok, I support your point. We tell you it works for women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:52 AM
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So you feel appreciated the same way for Who you are when it comes from friends and lovers ? We re talking about relationship.... nothing to be done about it. Well first you could stop saying "it's their fault" "they are loser" "they are bottom of the Barrel" "they push wayyyyyy above their league". And just admit it hurts and maybe yes maybe one Day say "yeah you go Guy, you can have this hot chick" as you could say to women. Just you know support men ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:35 AM
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What is the bottom Barrel for you and what make you think that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:31 PM
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To the degree that AWALT goes to, it's a negative thing. Completely agree I don't believe in AWALT. I do believe in general that women don't care of neediness until it comes from a high value man. Healthier to live and love and concentrate on making the best life you can. Yes... being all good by your own to the point you don't need relationship --> to be happy in couple you need to not want a couple. Apparently it's how it goese but doesn't fit my way of seeing life unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:41 AM
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Hm... I didn't see it this way. might be true ! thx for your input :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:38 AM
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you never was nicer to someone you were interested in ? The belief that women are loaded guns is another type of fear and aligns with neediness. I do not believe it however, as a sensitive guy I do believe that every women I am interested in can crush my heart. Is it bad to want to protect yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 09:45 AM
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You have the right to desire women even if you think you don't deserve them. Don't believe what a woman say, always add "for now" when she talks about you. Your look will make your dating life harder and it's not in your head. You ll still meet a lot of women so try to enjoy what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:20 AM
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That's not true in my experience. It's not because women can't love you like this doesn't mean they can't. Isn't it the principe of RP Chad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:17 AM
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Yeah but how? What's wrong with your face? Jaw line? Symmetry? Eyes? Nose? Probably all of that. I can't tell you, you should ask people who saw me ;) Better in what way? Since I have a lot of good point about me, I d say mostly look ! or in the attraction department at least. But then their love died at some point? If you've seen how hollow it is then why do you crave it so much? Love, interest etc... I will explain you how I see human (already did on here). We have all 3 aspects : We have a hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:42 AM
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What could be better about your face? How can I answer that ? It could be better being more attractive ! I have a shitty face (to be more polite I d say I haven't a face good enough). You're not an incel but have trouble keeping women? No I am not an incel I have an average N-count for here (18). Women leave me to get better that's all. Have you yet seen how hollow a woman's desire and affection is? I had women considered me as an half god and who were madly in love with me so I guess yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:51 PM
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Oh yeah i am fine with my height but I don t kid myself thinking it's not a bad point for dating. I will never ever damage my really well fonctionning body for pussies even if I love them. Face is more important than height. Yes of course i have fun ! There is no magic here. My women (gf or not) think they can do better and they probably can. That s why they have Power. And no i do not only chase or date model ^
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:54 PM
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Do you have money in the bank? Yes I do ;) What's wrong with your looks in your opinion? Nothing is wrong. My face isn't really attractive and (Which is less a problem but doesn't help) I am short 5'7. I am just not good looking enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:45 AM
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Good to hear. Though you still think of yourself as needy which is curious. Because I am. I have 0 self esteem when it comes to women and crave their validation. Plus I have a low SMV and I am a serious sensitive guy when it comes to relationship. All of this make me needy. But relationship is only a part of my life and I am blessed with other good genetic than look. Not true. You have some influence and thus some control. I never had one but I do believe some men have. So I agree with you :) Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:38 PM
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Well i am a needy man and that s why I don t understand. I have my shit together, I have more than most People (men and women) and is probably more capable too in regard to "shit". I never and won t count on women to bring things in my life for my shit because it's likely that I do better than her. So.. Why do I say i am needy ? Because what brings a woman is not in my control. Whatever how huge and together are my "shit". I can t build myself love, woman s body, companionship, dates etc... Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:41 PM
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That s something I never understood: why do you say needy = not having ones shit together ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:53 PM
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Why do you think I had to do something different than my tall counterpart ? it's exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:00 AM
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that's exactly what I said sweetie !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 06:10 AM
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That s sad iq test doesn t show when analogies are used in the right place. You would lost couple points and it would give you a bit of humility you need. But don t worry I am writing an answer in English and in French. To show you how wrong you are. I decided to write it in French too so you ll be able to criticize the language only when you ll Master my native language. Thing we both know Will never happen. But I had appreciated how you tried :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 05:43 AM
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I think most women a sexual partner way before getting to this point. And I heard "I would have not sleep with him if I wasn t horny" enough time to know women drop their standard if they are horny enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:34 PM
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I agree but I think it's due to the fact you have ton of options. If we would took of all those options your behavior would look like the men s one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:32 PM
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A lot of people can become an option if you want sex bad enough or after enough time. I am shocked you don't see the difference with sexual orientation...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:14 PM
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No it's not the same. You seem to forget one little tiny details. Men got attention from omen they are not attracted, yes I know it's shocking. I ve got that and I ve got hit on by gay dudes. I can assure you it's not the same like 0%. You can put it all the way you want you're wrong. I d feel more pleasure to sleep with an unattractive women than with any beautifull man you could show me. EDIT : and yes I felt flatered to get compliment from gay dudes even if I had 0 attraction for them...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:03 PM
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That's healthy and I do think you did nothing wrong ! Thx for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:58 PM
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Fair enough. As I said in another comment. I didn't take this literally and I assumed you didn't too !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:56 PM
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The joy of PPD !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:56 PM
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I share this point of view. Indeed the 24/7 is BS. I tend to not take threads literally on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:53 PM
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I do think you might be screwed about your real life women around you. I can assure you that most women around here could find a man to fuck every night if she wants to. This isn't internet BS, just real life in my environment. And this doesn't mean women can have everything they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:47 PM
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That's something I reproach to women on here. The sweet habitude to say "but this doesn't count" while it does. Give me your amount of online attention I d take it and transform it in real attention ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:45 PM
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oh you ... Add "that other guys covet" That's a good point ! you got it I think. Well I am a man, it helps. In my experience men are amazingly easy to please it's girls who are crazy picky. I have to fight that tendency in myself!! I have no English compliment good enough for you !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:47 PM
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had a load of one night stands and lots of fun for a year or so During this period, did you hurt some men and treat them as you were treated?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:59 PM
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This is something I saw too !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:51 PM
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I am not a woman. I would probably say BS if I d talk about it. I do think dating market is hard for both gender. If I am purple (and endorse some "RP" thoughts) it's only about sex and SMP. I think you have good insight on here about why women can feel angry. Especially the dragoness_leclerq answer. I heard those kind of stories IRL. When we hear TRPer we might think men are absolute angel. Men hurt women and that's a fact. As women hurt men. Men and women have the right to be angry sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:50 PM
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I was kinda pissed at age 10 when I learned about periods. That's about the time I stopped believing in a god. Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:15 AM
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How dare an human being interested in you.... I want to hug you, your dating life is the worst among us...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:26 AM
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Yes and would motivate me more than thinking even 400lb women don t want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:21 AM
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Men don't really know what they want Whaaat men are humans too ? fuck that's good to be on PPD. Most men I men I met in my life want the same basic: a faithfull cute woman who is a slut in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:24 AM
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Yes. Dating scene is a bitter phase. Look at the comments on TRPers. A lot of women are angry. Some of them hide it on here with "my bf/husband is so amazing you guys say only BS". If I learn something in life it's that people overestimate what their partner is (men and women) and it's good because that's the purpose of love !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:22 AM
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Is it another troll post ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:08 AM
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I agree with this. I think on this point men and women have similar behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:02 AM
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Truly, I didn't feel I could show ANY sexuality as a young man, because I was so ashamed of "evil male pigs" that I did everything I could to NOT be "one of those" guys. That's how I felt most part of my life !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:21 PM
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more alpha than a triple cheeseburger Triple cheeseburger sounds a good idea :|
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:40 PM
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Whaaaaat ? Men like when women are interested in them ? I am glad I found this thread !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:17 PM
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You are an anonymous person stating anonymous anedotes. My anedoct as you say is knowing my pairs. You're just wrong in your analysis of your set. First, the men's jobs are directly impacted by technology: http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/technology-is-destroying-jobs-and-it-could-spur-a-global-crisis-2015-6/ Second, a lot of low paid jobs are taken by immigrants, not only because they steal the jobs of natives but because natives don't want to do it : https://openborders.info/immigrants-do-jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:56 AM
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that's when you should change your view... I am a beta man when it comes to women. Can you just 2s imagine that I studied and worked hard for my own ambition ? I don't do what I do under the feminist's pressure and I d advice you to do the same. If you're happy with a low income job. Go for it. I see a lot of sucessfull men with shitty jobs... This isn't (always) correlated. Why do you think there is all this whining about "where have all the good men gone" and "men need to work more" in the pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:31 AM
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these beta males get zero reciprocity for that hard work. Maybe they enjoy their work? I am the first one supporting men's cause. However I find it ridiculous you mixing two different subject. What you call "beta" men doing what they enjoy in their professional life. It shouldn't be correlated with their dating sucess.... Most people (men and women) do what they have to do in order to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 11:15 AM
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how so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:45 PM
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Lol good choice !
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:02 PM
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That's a good reaction !
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:02 PM
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How do you react ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 05:58 PM
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Lol... I really do understand why men hit on you. But this is just.... I don't know how to say, unprofessional ? Men are strange sometimes. I do not understand how this could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 05:57 PM
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Does it really happen ? :|
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 05:44 PM
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What I think amazing with humans and hapiness is the fact most of us needs external factors to be happy without questionning our own mind. Men and women are guilty of that. I do not date men, you're the one who should open my eyes about our behavior. But I do date women. I heard / see / experience women saying "I need a man who is XYZ", "I can't date a man who is XYZ" .... While saying this is standards, I say it's feeling they "derserve" it. Your claiming that 'women must face consequences' sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:57 PM
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The new system is much, much better than the old one. You might believe it or not but I 100% agree. I never said something else. The big difference is now the new system affects men and make us suffer. Having a worse old system doesn't mean the new one is good enough as you said. Because it's more egalitarian, I think we should concider men's point of view. I think women are human and treat them as it. I feel sometimes I can't say "women are entitled bitches" (as I could say "men are entitled pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:43 PM
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I would agree with this comment if I saw most women happy in the dating market.... Which is not really the case (around me at least). There is nothing wrong with women's choices if it would make them happy. The fact women complain about our current situation (as men do tho) could maybe make you only one time say women are just humans and make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:01 PM
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Your problem is thinking there are only RP men on here.... by this asumption you drop extrem threads and piss of a lot of different guys who said nothing especially wrong against women. You're prone to starting a gender war because some TRPers pissed you off. You do the same shit as extrem TRPers... But where is your empathy for the women who were raped and beaten by husbands they couldn't leave? I personnaly do support helping when women (or people in general) suffer from an apparent problem. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 03:58 PM
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Exactly !
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:03 AM
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No I get it. Im not hugely into rough stuff but I skew dominant. That's what I understand from TRP tho. I am not RPer and I am dominant so I don't know. But from what I heard from my partners, you better lead in bed as a man for the majority of women. How far you go depends on your partner and what you like. Sex is an exchange and needs communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:17 AM
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I am not sure I understand what you just said. I love giving pleasure to my partner and I am dominant. I don't even know how people can't see how it is compatible. I see my partners as adults who know what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:20 PM
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I wonder if (some) ppd's women ever met dominant men.... dominant != selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 09:59 PM
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that's my experience too !
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:51 PM
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How so ? I don't believe in the concept of the ONE. It absolutely doesn't change the fact I can feel love and a true one. Because love doesn't last forever doesn't mean you should compare it to having a crush. I find it ridiculous to think a love is true only if it last forever.....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:35 AM
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You can t write it as you want. I am an unatractive beta and I still had women considered me as an half god. Love is a tricky state. I can love more than anyone else and some women love me back with a true lovetm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:07 AM
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I don t understand why so many TRPers dismiss love. True love exists. It doesn t Last most of the time. Women can t love is one of the biggest BS of RP for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:12 PM
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Can you developp what you concider lies ? I never felt society lied to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:40 AM
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Love this answer :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 10:56 AM
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Does it mean women who aren't desirable to most men shouldn't be picky ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:33 PM
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Women will NEVER do that with their sons. Probably true. However, I lean blue on this question. Everyone who went to school knows girls/women run after hot guys.... That's even why men say "women are too picky", "women are shallow cunt" etc.... Most medias show "perfect" men (who aren't perfect according to PPD's women).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:01 PM
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I will keep those advices in mind. Thx !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:49 PM
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And more support for why men should not listen to what women say. You should listen what women say. Just remember they say it from a women's point of view. You shouldn't however listen them and pretend they say things as men. or you can use a good trick. When women say something add "In a hot dude". Things I think TRPer fail to aknowledge is "beta" traits are amazing when it comes to sustain attract a woman for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:45 PM
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ah okay, I am sorry so... I made terrible tags in my answers... lol i don't think it's necessarily a death sentence as some claim it to be. 10000% agree. I will never say it enough. Most short guys can improve themselve a lot. And even if it's harder, we hear that enough here "life isn't fair". I am a short guy with average N-count, I ve got beautiful love stories etc... I however often react when I hear "I don't like short men because they are insecure" or "I dated a short guy once, never again…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:35 PM
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That's merely your physical side. Being physically attractive is different than being attractive Notion I hear often on here and I don't understand. I still have things to learn anyway ! But perhaps I'm being nit picky about semantics You're right about this point. I will be carefull about the difference between conversation and discussion. Though your statement has some doubt in it The fact you doubt it doesn't change fact. I am not sure because it depends. I don't have a book of technics I app…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:04 PM
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In your way to agreeing with future_space_boobs. I thought you endorsed the someone who's attitude (and it's a common one) is "I don't care as long as he's taller than me in heels" won't rank it as very important, but still wouldn't consider a 5'4" guy. really short guys are kinda seen as outliers IMO. It's not about your personnal preference, I am glad you like short guys. My point was saying height matter to women and it's fine. But we shouldn't pretend it has negative consequences on short gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:54 PM
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You're right ! I missread your comment. My bad !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:49 PM
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I disagree with you in some way. True kindness and true generosity is a good thing if you want to seduce every women. Which might means kind and generous to her. But this isn't traits you can fake to seduce them. And as almost every traits it comes after look.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:38 PM
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I find myself defending short guys more than I wish on reddit. I don't feel insulted by women wanting tall men, however I feel insulted to see every fucking time your words : as long as he's not insecure about it and saying "omg don't wear heels I'll look short" (which sadly is really a pitfall for a lot of short guys) Whatever the number of thread on here which state than women prefer/want/requiere tall men. Even in this thread, /u/future_space_boobs, /u/-almost-blue- and /u/Lyanina talk about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:34 PM
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How do you know this? Because I know how I look. I am realist, my face and my height forbid me to be. You do understand these are two different things? Of couse lol. I meant, when I engage discussion with a goal to seduce her. Do you quickly sexualize the interaction in some way? I think so. I think I am okay with flirting but I am an extro with natural ease with people so it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:26 PM
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it with teaching people not to give off a creepy vibe? In my opinion, it would be just communication. Saying "I don't like X" is different than saying "Ew you're X and it's bad". "Ew sluts are gross" vs "I don't like sleeping/dating N-count women", "I don't like the fact you're hitting on me" vs " Ew you're a creep", "I don't find you attractive" vs "Ew you're ugly, how dare you hitting on me".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:00 AM
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I tend to agree. I don't mind women feeling whatever pop in their guts. if they feel creeped out, that's okay. It's another thing to push what is in your head into real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:57 AM
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Do you even TRP bro? Not really but it's another subject. My point is, I will never ever be the most attractive men in a room. Sometimes I will still try to engage discussion/hit on a woman. If her body language reject me, I will see it but it will be too late and I will be "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:55 AM
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Can you developp your thoughts a bit further ? since it's not really about your thread, you can PM me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 09:12 PM
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I don't. But I support the fact some men don't want to sleep/date high N-count. You can do whatever you want in your life but it has negative consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 09:03 PM
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Yes but in the second case, it's already too late.... EDIT: I am still proud of you to give clear information :D You go girl (as we say on the internet) !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:00 PM
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Should we fight against creep shaming as we fight against slut shaming ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:56 PM
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I personally love being sexually objectified and persistently pursued by men I find attractive. How can I know you find me attractive ? Do you remember men don't read mind ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:53 PM
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OJ. I souffer from women's height requierement 100000 times more than you. You're average height, even slighty above. You're just full of shit when you say sentences like this :D Height requierement is a thing. A shallow one but a real thing I know it. but stop with "all women want a 6'6 man" please. You don't serve short guys like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:25 PM
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My boyfriend, who is the epitome of 'nice guy', claimed until a month ago that he does not do doggy style 'because it demeans women'. Last Saturday, after some coaxing, he was shagging me from behind like crazy. Now he says he does not do anal because it demeans women and 'he respects me'. Give me one more month and we'll see whether he still thinks the same. This is just a fallacy. There is no link between being "nice" and not kinky. Even worse, it's thinking women don't know what they love in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:01 PM
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Your yesterday thread wasn't anwered with Red Pill hamsters. Men answered you. Even if you don't want it you have to open to the idea that things against you aren't necesserly "evil red pill". As I learnt yesterday that really concervative people can act as you described
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:57 PM
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Hahaha. From what I understand from your post you're attractive. I don't have this luxury. But that's indeed a good way to deal with that !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:31 AM
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Now this is the first time I've ever heard a girl say this, lol. Listen PJ more often ;) She is a smart girl !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:03 AM
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And that's why I find it terrible as TRP can be.... for me a good advice for women (men) is telling her (him) how she can get what she wants AND do her share of work to build a solid and healthy relationship........
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:49 AM
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I never ever heard this kind of thing in my life. I ll try to open my mind and take that in concideration from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:25 PM
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That's an interesting answer, thx ! I will think about it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:21 PM
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So we shoud introduce field report and not CMV posts..... I don't care if it works for her (I am happy for her it does tho), she posts on a debate sub, I disagree extrapoling her view to a large amount of women I might interact with and might want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:19 PM
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One more time you're the one hang up on the waiting part. From the OP's mouth : Never give him too much attention. Don't be starstruck. As a woman, you always have plenty of options. You send him one text for each two he sends you. He must be the one doing all the work Would you like your bf/gf ( I don't know what you date) talk about you like this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:17 PM
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I saw too many players playing the "traditional" game until they fuck the woman. You really believe giving no respect to the man you're dating is a good way to find a partner interested in an healthy relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:11 PM
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Good I aint TRPer :) But whatever suit you ! you want to call women sluts for having too many partners and you want a blow job five minutes after meeting. Yep if you want, that's why I love "sluts", I want blow jobs five minutes after meeting AND I want her to enjoy it because I love sex. I also want to find my life partner. Please avoid generalisation of men around here. You act like TRPers Never give him too much attention. Don't be starstruck. As a woman, you always have plenty of options. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:08 PM
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Or.... We just want sex.... Or.... we don't want the same thing.... Or.... she has a terrible way to go with her dating life....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:03 PM
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All of the men arguing against these points are the same ones who think women who sleep with more than one guy is a slut, while also demanding women sleep with them within the first three dates. You're wrong... terribly wrong :) I do not agree 100% with every point the OP makes but the general idea that you wait to get to know a man because you want the possibility of a relationship instead of being the ONS chick is not crazy. I would love to see which woman could know me after 10 dates ! You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:01 PM
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lol :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:23 PM
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Are you kidding me ? How should a man take a rejection ? Be serious... Same applies to both ends, if you're into me you should prove me you're attracted to me. If you're not I lose nothing. You seem to see relationship as something you take. I see it as something to build/ an exchange. I give everything fast and I except the same from my partner. If two people are into each other there is no power play .... The fact I am into you or not will absolutely not change the amount of time I will wait b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:22 PM
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hahahah :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:15 PM
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As I said we probably live in different environments ! that's okay, your point becomes as valid as mine. No matter what you count as "date" after couple meetings, I ll make a move. Any rejection from the woman would make me take this as a "no". And as we all know "no is no" so I move on. There is no 10 dates wait. I usually don't wait more than 2 dates (but this is my problem and mostly drives by my own insecurities, that's why I don't take myself as an example)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:11 PM
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Women who are attracted to me and see sex as pleasurable for both parties !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:04 PM
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Maybe you live in a different place ! I accept your argument. Where I live it's impossible someone wait that much without having only for purpose to fuck you and dump you and/or fuck other chicks on the side. However, I still believe this thread is a troll. Every one of this advice would make me stop pursuing this woman and I am an unattractive man with few options and relationship oriented !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:02 PM
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Getting blow within the first hour isn't unreasonable if the two people are horny.... In a normal context and in my own environment waiting 10 dates is unreasonable if you're attracted to someone. Sex is a huge part of dating. The vast majority of my women's friends (even the most RPW I know) would think there is a huge problem if there is no sex after 10 dates. I took this point because it was easy to express my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:56 PM
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Expecting sex on the first date or she's "not attracted to him" is trolling if we are comparing it to expecting her to meet the family/friends before sex or else he's "not really into you." That's why I compare it to make him wait a bit to see if he doesn't want only sex and "pump and dump". RPW doesn't say put out on the third date either. Maybe I don't know, I don't read RPW, my mistake. Just say "normal" women advice (at least what I hear IRL).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:51 PM
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yes ! I do think a lot of TPRers troll. This is how I see the situation : "Normal" Advice : for men sexual strategy (RP mindsetish) : if the woman doesn't sleep with you the first date --> dump her for women sexual strategy (RPW mindsetish) : if the man doesn't want to want 3 dates ---> dump him Troll: If the woman doesn't suck your dick the first hour --> dump her If the man doesn't wait 10 dates --> dump her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:33 PM
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I am glad to hear that :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:12 PM
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Is it a troll ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:53 PM
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To a woman, getting hit on by a man who doesn't look like Nope... I know you believe this but you're wrong. It's bothering I can understand this but it's not harassmant. I'm fine being alone, lol. All your comment here proves you're not that fine about this fact. I don't say being single is a deathsentence. I say that people claiming "I don't mind being single" while never had to deal with the bad sides of being single say BS. I really don't have the necessary patience and capacity to put effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:43 AM
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I quote you: I get hit on every time I go out to bars and it's annoying af. You don't talk about harassment, just being hit on... don't make me say what I didn't. Nobody deserve being harassed ! I quote you again. If I am not attracted to anyone available, then I will be alone and that's fine with me. I react to the fact that you would be fine being alone. It always make me laugh when I hear people (men and women) saying "I would be totaly fine being alone" while having no idea what it's like. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 05:52 PM
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And that's why you have no idea about what you're saying... I understand how it can be boring, it's a "rich problem". However you should probably avoid saying this, it makes you seem to be an awfull person!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 05:39 PM
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then I will be alone and that's fine with me. Well I really doubt that! How is your love life ? how many time are you hiting on ? Can you find sex easily ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 05:14 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:10 AM
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but I have met few men who I believe really think there's some "magic" about her virginity. Hahaha. Some men are strange.... http://68.media.tumblr.com/3745b5a679c4bd3093bc9a004d7b2055/tumblr_n403bxzDqR1s4andvo9_r1_400.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:46 PM
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Insecurities is part of humans. How many women's preference are rooted in insecurities ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:24 PM
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Maybe, I ll let the men who dig virgins answer. From what I know Chad != good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:18 PM
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Why is it BS ? because not logical ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:12 PM
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I took (from what I know) two virginities in my life. Both were with the two women I loved the most so far in my life. On the basic sex level, it was okay, nothing special to write. However, I remember it perfectly because it was special. I do not dig virgins (I try to avoid them now to be honnest). However I could "understand" why some people are interested in. If a woman give you her V-card, there is a lot of chance that you're so good / so special that she gives you one of the most important …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:55 PM
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Apparently it's so horrible to ride this carousel and enjoy yourself. I think you don't understand men (which is normal) and not even try. Listen to me. Most RPers complain about the AF/BB. The fear is not being good enough to fuck women but at one point being good enough for confort. Repeat after me.... Men are human. You like knowing men are attracted to you. Men do too. I never heard RPers I talked with complaining about women pleasure. Just like nice guys, the poor unfortunate good girls are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:44 PM
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I have one question for you. How was your first time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:39 PM
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PS: getting a trophy wife is a really bad idea. How so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:56 AM
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I hope I ll never meet one in my life. Chad is a mystical creature, don't want to be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:54 AM
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Last year maybe 2-3 guys hit on me. In the entire year. Is that suppose to make me sad ? :p See you're whining (easy isn't it ? :D). You're still missing a lot of water from your shower ! Or become fat to experience a drier shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:51 AM
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Yup that's where (from my point of view) the "bad boys" thing come. It's better to make a woman feels something (no matter if it's good or bad) than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:46 AM
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I let you debate that on here :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:45 AM
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Can I see a picture of you ? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:36 AM
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The point men complain about here (and which leads a lot of debate) isn't saying women love hot, cocky guys. It's saying women ONLY love hot cocky guys and won't settle for less. While men are more open.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:35 AM
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I share some of your point of view. My point is men aren't rejected only by bitchy Stacies. They are rejected by most women..... Dude, no I'm not. As you said about stacies, you're just used to. Being hit on twice a month is something I ll probably never know in my life. Plus by your own admission, you don't realize when men hit on you.... Open your eyes my dear !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:33 AM
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My thoughts exactly !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:25 AM
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but it's usually easier for a larger person to be dominant. lol ok Then again, I've seen plenty of Chihuahuas be dominant over huge dogs like great danes, lol. So you accept dogs twice or three time bigger can be dominated. And make a difference for couple % in human body. Brain is a powerfull tool. Hope you ll change your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:09 AM
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Why wouldn't men like Stacies ? I do like them. However I will try to change your view. The reason RPers are on their sub right now is because they got rejected by a HOT WOMAN for being too nice. I dated women of different attractiveness in my life. I hit on women of difference attractiveness too. Let me tell you something. While obviously I have more sucess with less attractive women than with the 9, bellow average / average women aren't easy.... That's a huge fallacy thinking because I ll hit …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:04 AM
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but this is nothing related to attractiveness nor any size mentioned ...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:30 PM
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What is dominant for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:09 PM
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hehehe ma chère compatriote ! Yep things can be more complicated that's why I said "problem". I have to understand that what I feel is based on insecurities AND on natural feelings because ya know... I am human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:43 PM
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Oh, how does it create problems? It is a "problem". To understand, you have to understand my mind. For casual encounter, ONS, gfs, love of my life, I have the same sexual desire for my partner, usually from the few first seconds. When a woman take it casuals sometimes in her life and decide that now things should go slow, she changes the value of sex. Sex is sex and changing your mind from sex = casual fun to sex = commitement changes things. And I do put some value in sex. For me, compare to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:19 PM
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I agree with you and your comment, all of it. My point was: a lot of women seek casual early relationship (because they are human) and then things evolve and they want more. Then if the other part (men in this case) still seeks casual, when we look backward it can be interpreted like this "having sex for the commitement". And I do believe that nowadays, women (as men) are guilty of keeping it casual first to "see where it goes", "let options opened" and then suffer when unlogical feelings/desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:35 PM
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If you already felt in love in your life, you know some things can't be controlled. We all have illogic mind process. All our discussion on here would be more simple if human could act in a logic way. I rarely (if not never) saw FWB stories finish well for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:03 PM
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that's when I disagree with you. It's not about "man up". It's about basic human decency.... 1 or 5 dates is nothing, it's early in the relationship. Human are not product you buy. Ghosting is shit and if you were ghost after 1 date you'd know it. It should be basic to be able to say you're not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:43 AM
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But how many women actively have sex with someone "who treats them as a casual" while genuinely believing it will get them commitment? I do think it happens often nowadays. From men AND women. starting casual let your options open. From a man's point of view, you know if you start dating, you shouldn't push too fast or you ll make her afraid and she will leave. things go ugly when one party caught some feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:39 AM
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Unless you talk about sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:14 PM
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your answer was just well put ! She will do everything she wants anyway !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:56 PM
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hahaha +1 dude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:40 PM
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I try to give you my point of view as someone who don't mind high N-count (at least from what I know), however, let me try to explain some of men's thoughts: For most people, sex is a special thing. Most people can have ONS, but for exemple if I d propose you to meet up and have sex, you d probably say no. The people you have sex with is only a little tiny part of people you have interraction with. My first point, brings me to my second. I will give you an exemple from a woman's point of view. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 11:06 AM
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I do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:05 AM
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That's not something which fits my life. Women are as shallow as men. If a woman don't want to sleep with you, I see it really really hard to change her mind. Confirmation biais maybe :p Men will disqualify a woman based purely on looks That's mostly true. his math is correct. I believe it's a "she". Her arithmetic is correct, her maths aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:48 PM
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that you guys would consider to be 'attractive enough for sex' No, because nobody talk about the set of all women. Wanted to sleep with 80% of non weight women =/=> don't want to sleep with (some) overweight women.... That's the point I disagree. That's a false implication which make your calcul correct but you hypothesis (and so your conclusion) wrong. Women's 'pickiness' or the way the women self select is somehow 'wrong', or misguided, or in any way different, really, than the way that TRP se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:42 PM
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I think you took this thread wrongly. Among the non overweight women, a lot of men (myself include) could sleep with 70-80% of them. That's the question asked. It is not about every women. the number would be lower but pretty high compare to women. I am sure I could sleep with more than half of women betwwen 18 - 40 (my dating pool). To compare pickyness, do you really believe women would sleep with 70-80% of men BMI<25 and <30yo ? Which means every other physical factor concidered (height, hair…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:11 PM
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Unless he counted all of them #RPpokemon
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:00 PM
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the answers here don't say men don't sleep with overweight women... so no ...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:29 PM
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Maybe I am just the type who would rather meet someone over coffee and see if there is a possibility rather than just text endlessly. I apply the 10 days rules ! I agree with all of your comment !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:20 AM
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changing his diet a bit? That's another fact of life. if he changes only by a bit, results will take longer to come. If he changes it too hard, results will come faster but any comeback on the former diet will bring fat faster (even harder). You/he/me need to find the right change for a sustainable changement and be patient for the best results
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:30 PM
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hahahaha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:27 PM
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Well human body is kind of simple. to change your body you can get lean or get big (aka gain muscle). You can't do both at the same time. That's why you need to focus in one objective. That's doesn't mean if you want to have an healthy sport training that you have to do only one thing (ex cardio). if you want to lose weight, eat less and better and do mostly cardio/hiit. But you still have to train your muscle with some exercices. If you want to get muscle you need to eat more (muscles don't app…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:24 PM
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I had to lost several time fat in my life, so I d say: rugby, swimming, running/gym. Those are the sport who helped me lost weight at different time in my life. I said help, each time I had to cut weight I followed some strict diet. I d say it's 75% diet / 25% sport (those numbers are from me, I d let some specialist come with accurate one). I always heard alcohol is really bad for diet, he should cut that probably ! Same I let specialized people give you scientific answer about alcohol and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:20 PM
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Cardio helps you to burn more fat. you lost fat by your diet, cardio would have help you if you're human. We all have abs, if he cuts his fat you ll see his abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:15 PM
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yup, diet is the most important ! we'd need a better knowledge of his diet to advice him better. Sport is important for me, because I can manage to do a lot of sport when I want to lose weight and it make my qualories imbalance better and help me through my body transformation. That's why I always advice more sport with the diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:10 PM
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Unless he has a special condition, his beer belly is fat (or he needs to see a doctor). I don't know why he stocks it only on his belly, but, if it's what I am thinking as beer belly he needs to lose fat so what I adviced. the belly fat is usually the harder to get rid off because it's our "natural" defences against famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:04 PM
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Apparently it's not enough. Make him run, and do HIIT exercice. I think he needs to exercise his abs directly. If you ask advices, listen. doing abs will make his abs grow, under the fat --> his belly will be bigger. Do you think the first powerlifter on OP has no abs ? EDIT: BTW losing weight is mostly diet ...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:55 PM
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Reduce body fat % aka, long term changement in his diet and more sport. Results should come after months if he wants it to be sustainable!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:50 PM
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But Im not, I am a man. I know ! it wasn't a bad thing, I am glad for you that you can have sex easily ! than I would agree with him. However, he painted all men as "inexperienced and not looking for a real relationship" and all women as the opposite. As my comment was supposed to say, "all men" / "all women" means nothing. But if you look for most people, women have an easier access to sex. The fact you can have as many ONS as you want (I wonder how you look like!) doesn't mean most men can....…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:59 PM
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I have enough ONS in my youth and no longer feel motivated to look for them. So basically you're a woman when it comes to sex, i.e. you have options and sex is something you can have easily. So you're searching something deeper. I don't think what you say oppose the OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:50 PM
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I met few rugby men who look like this, however they played it professional. I am not saying that's a rugby player body. I haven't this body. I said I percieve guy #1 as someone who needs a lot of mucles for sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:09 PM
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I agree with you and you can choose whoever you prefer, I don't comdamn this, you ll be always right when you say "this guy is more attractive" because you're the woman. I just hear 24/7 here talking about "Real men", how men can percieve masculinity while in the same time picking for "real man" a diva queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:07 PM
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Come play rugby !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:01 PM
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The guy 1 look like an athlete for me that's why he needs to have more muscles. Guy 2 is a diva who spend as much time in gym but to have another outcome, spend more time to look pretty and more time buying makeup. I am not blind I see your "masculine" thing for guy number 2. But all of this is 100% fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:56 PM
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Your answer make me laugh. You talk about free time on the gym for the first guy however praised the beard / hair of the second: Do you realize that guy 2 go a lot in gym and spend more time taking care of his hairs than you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:46 PM
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Interresting read thx ! Average isn't tall tho... if she has only respect for tall men it will be sad for her short/average son. I am trying to improve my offspring by search a VS model too :D (if one of you is here we can talk). I am 169cm (5'6 / 5'7) barefoot, so short !
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:51 PM
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Hahaha yup. I heard that too. I would just advice her to not have children, she is a height trash too after all and her reasoning is terrible for someone who is supposed to love offspring ! I am not an expert on genetic but I guess having a short mother doesn't help. I just really really hope she won't have a short son :( poor kid. OP needs help tho. I would advice him to volunteer at children's hospital and see if being tall does mean you won't bring crappy genes, maybe it would help him. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:22 PM
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This Guy suffers and express it.... The thing is, taller doesnt mean superior (probably more attractive but that s it). To defend him I d say the "I want tall children" is something which exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:13 AM
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Most of us are happily LTR'd. And that's what I reproach here all the time to men and women: "I have no problem and I am happy, the one who whine are fucking assholes who don't take care of themselve" Same goes for the OP, from his mouth: I am a guy, I fucked around a lot, I have highly feminist views, strongly feminist female friends... I have never ONCE been shamed for my masculinity or my sexuality. then So the root cause of all this comes down to simple butthurt from rejection. Aka, my life …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:06 PM
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that's true, I do think there is a thing as too many sexual partners since couple of my GUY friends told me : I don't care about pussies anymore, I like sex but it's just a hole among others. I do think there is a "problem" for men it's when women decide the value of sex or what should be a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 06:00 PM
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hahaha I keep that in mind :D And good job for radium !
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:29 PM
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I like this answer :D I will try to ask a blowjob for the invention of penicillin! Thx for the tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:06 PM
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they don't know how to "man" I understand that you can be attracted to Mr. "real man", or "alpha" or whatever you want. However.... I am man and the fact you like it or not dosn't allow you to tell what is a "man". You never lived in a man's body, you probably have no idea how we interact with each other. The fact you don't like "soft" men doesn't mean they are no men. I would like you to be carefull with your words!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:19 AM
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You are rigt I read really badly your comment, my apologize for that ! that's true. People like what they like and shouldn't be shamed for that men or women. We are all superficial when it comes to attraction. Everyone has physical standards. That isn't a bad thing. No it's not from my point of view. A lot of people disagree with us when it comes to "beauty standards" and push another narrative for women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:02 PM
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Yeah good luck expecting someone to honestly tell you why theyr dumping you. I am here to take some step back on my love life. I just tell you what I would enjoy. Also I'm not sure why you're responding to me. Because you make good reactions and I am interested in your point of view. You and the other poster clearly have different ideas on what constitutes being empathetic from a woman ! That's why I had a huge trouble to tell you "what should women do".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:18 PM
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I'm sure that is what most men look for in a partner too. Yes men are shallow pigs, we hear women complain (with legit reasons) here often. The problem is when people delude themselves into thinking looks don't matter... for them alone. They are allowed to have physical preferences, but for some reason women aren't. That's bullshit. that's not even the problem. I met those men, I think they thought women haven't eyes... stupid. Anyway a lot of men calling women on here shallow pigs too. This cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 09:06 AM
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First I don't need everything. We are in a sub talking about one of the most difficult things on earth: Men / Women relationships (if you're gay/lesbian, change as you wish). We circlejerk all the time. You want TRPers stop being angry and hating women ? Start being more empathetic. I propse a solution point a problem I see often. "Men fail because they have poor social skills, bue of course look matters". However to counter this, attractive people are pedastalized by all of society so it should…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 09:01 AM
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Thank you for your answer :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:49 AM
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I make it a gender issue when this subreddit makes one during our discussion. I make it a gender issue when I talk about myself because I am a man. I never said that women have no problem in the dating market. What I am saying is men can have troubles and it's not because they are assholes angry men. lot of nice but fat girls get rejected by guys or not seen as dating material either. It's not fair but it's the world, and it's how physical attraction works. And if one of these woman come complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:39 PM
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Yes that s what I understood. Sorry for the overreaction if it wasn t the case ! I tried to find a perfect answer all Day long for you and why being more empatheric would be better! And I share your point of view. I don t ask women to pity fuck me. I don t ask women to change. Yeah it does sucks and so it might be painful, so men complain. Then we hear: "shut up, it's your social skills which make you fail". That s when I talk about empathy, sometimes we fail Just because it's unfair !
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 04:48 PM
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Or he can do nothing, but I don't know how "woman's empathy" helps And then you're talking with me about social skills ? really ? More seriously, I can talk about myself only. I don't have that much success (I am not someone who should cry tho...). My first reflex as everything else in life is thinking I am not good enough and always try to improve myself. Do I have room for improvement ? Yes of course, there always is. Having empathy from women (or men tho, PPD welcoming men and women), would j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:40 PM
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To hear men here talk, looks are the only thing that matters for a woman. Because we (me) hear a lot it's not the problem. While it's obviously a really important part of first attraction (and it's not bad.... I don't ask women to change nor sleeping with men they found ugly). Working on social aspect is important while you pass the inatial look. If someone was really attracted to you in your past you d knew, as I know, whatever (almost) you could say it goes well. Because when you have women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:16 PM
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I am not part of the "good 'ol day" tribe. It's not because something isn't new that we can't talk about it. The consequences are generally for men : hurting, low self-esteem, low self worth. Even if you don't want it, men are human and being able to be desired and having companionship is important. I don't even know why I should explain that.... and a lot of them do have poor social skills. that's an important ingredient in attractiveness. And a lot of them have good social skills. See I can do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 02:21 PM
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You're perfectly right ! And you don't understand why this bring some pain in a man's heart ? It means that those unattractive guys can be everything, they just " don't register as potential dating material at all" and that why I am against saying (like a lot of people do here): You have no sucess because you're an angry nerd with poor social skills. What you're attracted to is not good or bad, it just has consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:38 PM
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Now someone that hasn't eaten in months will probably eat the shit, but why are women bad people for not being as desperate as angry internet nerds? I think that's the real issue you have and what makes me angry AT YOU. I am not mad at women for not wanting me (some does tho), I am not mad at you because you have success or what you want. Can you understand (or at least try, you don't seem stupid) that some men have trouble in their love life and it's not because they are angry nerds. I am a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:03 AM
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What's wrong with you? Stop trying to control's women sexual autonomy. Just reread and stop trying to make me say what I didn't ! and be less aggressive. Incidentally, you're pretty much just confirming that traditional patriarchal structures have basically been set up so a bunch of low reproductive value males could control's women reproduction Low reproductive by look .... women here always claim they are not only flech (thing I completely agree), so stop again and again trying to push that be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:40 AM
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Lotsa girls are looking for you to date* Fixed it Mr. Chad ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:35 AM
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According to that narrative, I shouldn't exist. then My face gets me in the door, So you have a good face and you get laid lol what is wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:32 AM
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I just wonder, how many other partners have your FWBs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:28 AM
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Exactly ! 100% agree. But when you say look is everything... you get shit on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:46 PM
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Exactly, that's why you hear men say look is everything (myself include) and that's why you have to understand that lack of look (which is mostly genes for me) hurt men. Then you will understand that adding : you have no success because you're a spergy anti social man is just plainfully false for a lot of men. You could be perfect, if your look doesn't match you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:43 PM
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I agree with that ! Being only nice is amazing (we're a group of human and we don't only work together with sex) but completely irrelevent when it comes attraction. I would have to add, yes if you're attractive and nice it's a plus.... because you're attractive. Look is everything for the rest even if the rest is still important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:30 PM
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I 100% agree, that's why men are generally going for look only first. Didn't hear how many women complain here to not be only flesh ? I think look is everything because it comes first and you should not date someone if you're not attracted. Same goes for Men AND Women. We just have to admit we are equally shallow and women accept to be really honnest about the "look only" early stage. It will then lead you to understand why some men suffer and maybe then accept their suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:27 PM
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Maybe maybe not. I have a lot of qualities and I love life a lot (I tend to be quite lucky). Nothing hurts me / make me feel helpless more than the faillure of my love life. Some men, are just human and companionship/sex/relationship is a relaly huge part of ourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:13 PM
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Well said !
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:51 PM
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Hehehe thx. As you said it's Just life and I am strong man, I saw worse than this thread. Being understood is the only thing I ask on ppd. This is a tough place. Women on here often say m'en are losers and that s why they can t get laid / have relationships. While it's true (I don t have a higher opinion on men), I know I have room for improvement. However being understood (in this context) helps me realize that not everything is my fault. Cheers ppd friend and much love with your tall guys \0/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:16 PM
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That is a really good question. And maybe my verb isn t clear but I am not miserable. However, you seem to think men aren t human. I Will use feminist vocabulary: the problem is body acceptance. The problem is, the term used by women "préférence" while we both know it's a requierement. As a short man when I read this thread, I don t feel I am less good in what part of my life (nobody is perfect). I see that I am completely underisable for something completely out of my control: I ll never be abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:52 PM
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also legit women that use Reddit and would be on a subreddit like this are the lowest 10% I think you have a false idea about women on here :D But I see your point! I am glad you keep staying positive after a thread like this (especially if you're short)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:29 PM
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darla10, look at the response of women in this thread ! I am not crying. One more time I am happy being short for several reasons. I ve met women who prefer men my height, I ve dated taller women. If a woman don't like my height, it's easier for me to move on I have "reason" for the rejection. One more time read this thread, now imagine you're a short man and tell me : how would you feel ? I am not here to change women, you like what you like. Should I over be happy about it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:19 PM
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Do you still believe after reading the women's answers (from both pill) in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:16 PM
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But the men just have completely unrealistic standards. I really don't know what your standards are. You claim you're attractive and like taller and smarter men. Nothing wrong or good with that. Look at this comment from this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5jc3ob/anti_red_pill_people_what_if_anything_are_ugly/dbf5n01/ I always hear that men have unrealistic standards when I am confronted to a different story in my day to day life. From the OP list and about your reqqui…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:53 PM
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that average men to us are plain unattractive, much like super morbidly obese are to men typically. Do you realise the mental implication this sentence and the consequences of it has on average men ? By definition you just split and dismiss the vast majority of men and compare them with obese women (who made a choice and have a poor quality of life). I don't blame you tho, I just want you to understand why you can cause a lot of pain and a lot of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:40 PM
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But being natural is important. It is, and one more time, I don't blame women for wanting the most attractive men. That's life, we as men want the most attractive women too. The trouble with "natural" is if you're not... your love life will suffer from it and you will suffer. And claiming there is some complicated meaning behind that makes some men feel like shit. It's not one's faults if one isn't naturally good looking. And even if it's not all what matters, it matters a lot !
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:20 AM
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I agree with your points and I don't judge you ! The problem I see in PPD sometimes is people don't aknowledge trouble of others. "You all hate women and you're losers" while learning this person always had ONS/LTR or whatever. I am not RPer for different reasons. I still have trouble with my love life and it's not as easy FOR ME as some people claim here. That's why I wanted your point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:16 AM
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I've also barely been single since I was 15. When you're on PPD, do you understand some of the men's struggles? Or you feel we say only BS ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:03 AM
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That's basically my point. Maybe where you live people praise the fact about working on you. Here, going to gym and improving yourself got you some stigmas. Because the most attractive men should have been born this way, good face, tall, a lot of hairs etc... Faking nature is seeing unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:24 AM
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Hahahaha that's so fucking true ! However where I live not being a fatass =/= being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:19 AM
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the Western world wouldn't even have an obesity problem and there would be more gyms than fast food places. I disagree with that. The main problem you could repproach to women is saying that they want that but in a "natural" way. What matters isn't the work you put in but how good your genes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:39 AM
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I don't think your both opinions contradict themselves. I tend to agree with MissMaude, all the alpha alpha TRP stereotype can be feminist. But yes a woman isn't with someone because of feminism (bad strategy to believe that) but because she finds him attractive. Might it be in contradiction with all the "Equality" of feminism sure. Feminists are human, they think with their vaginas when it comes to relationship as TRP think with their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:14 AM
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choose between having children or a career, Well in fact, if you listen men who have/had a career, you d know women/society ask that. Women in for their career realized that you can't have it all and while men had a career they let their family behind causing for a lot of them regrets later in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:17 AM
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I see ! that's true !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:39 PM
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You can prefer fuck the tall one if you want. I am not gay it's not my problem. Everyone do whatever the fuck they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:00 PM
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You really doubt that it's harder for short men in the dating market ? even reading this thread ? I never said it's easy as fuck for tall women. One more time it's not because it's hard for short men that it has to be easy for everyone else...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:59 PM
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ohhh poor thing, I make you feel weird ? that will be okay don't worry !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:54 PM
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oups, reasons :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:49 PM
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you're right ! I don't cry, I love my height for several raisons and I am fine with the fact women prefer tall men ! They like what they like and it's not my problem. I won't lose time crying for a woman who don't like my height :) Thx for the support and advices tho <3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:32 PM
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I didn t want to play Who have it worse. Just pointing out it was different ! But you re right in your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:28 PM
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I just wanted to see if you were hypocrite and understand the taller vs tall concept. Your pool isnt shrinking. You re focusing on the most attractive men. There is no way you to have an options on them except being attractive. This is the logic which should make you less angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:27 PM
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My open question is to understand the concept of taller vs tall considering the women s point of view. Saying short women steal tall men is implying that women "Just" need taller men. While obviously (most) women requiere a tall men (absolute height relative to the local sexual market). I am fine to say/ hear short = bad tall = good. But I don t like hypocrisy. Darla say women would be good with only taller men, when in the reality it's only to ease her shallow (but normal, People want what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:24 PM
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You re right and it might have been rough sometimes. I am sry you went through this and hope you re enjoying your tall body now <3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:07 PM
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I ll even bring it a step further. I tend to be lucky in life and don t like complain (even if I do it times to times). Everyone complain sometimes, being Just always happy and fulfill bring a cold feelings to some People. Sharing bad points of life is a bouding attitude and a group catharsis
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:30 PM
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What about the fact I do the fuck I want ? If you don t want to listen me complain sometimes you re free to leave :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:19 PM
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I'd like to point out that the heigh standard does go both ways, It is true but in a complete different way. You re not even remotly in the same galaxy than us short guys. You Just have to read this thread and see the global consensus among women from all pills concerning height, women of all height. The fact that you too have the same requierement than most women and could have fulfill your wishes should prove it to you. I ll look later if you tell me where you re from what is your short man eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:10 PM
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I do understand what you say since I am a short Guy myself. I just wanted to understand the path of thought behind darla reaction. For me you re different since you re attracted to taller women. Being unhappy of being short is understanable, but you should be ressentful to short women tall men couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:38 PM
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So the problem, isn't short girls are taken, it's knowing women want taller. That's a bit different than darla. Your dating pool preference isn't shrunk by the short women / tall guy couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:16 PM
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Don't you like tall women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:13 PM
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And you have long legs <3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:12 PM
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I personnaly heard 5'6 is the best :o what will we do :( ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:44 AM
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Not sure what that means but for me, sex has gotten better That's suprising for me, I am a short guy and fucked with women from 5' to 6'. I find sex better with women around my height. I used to get mad at short girls who 'took' all the tall guys That's something I don't understand, can you express your thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:44 AM
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That's okay ! The healthiest way I came across is playing the "game" and offer the first part of the date (ex, food) then the woman pay for me the next round. It makes things easier and everyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:21 PM
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The thing that makes me lose interest is if I say before the date that I like to pay for myself and he still insists That's perfectly fine and healthy and I understand you ! I have nothing to say against this. This is a situation I never met. I understand you better now, thx for precising your way of thinking !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:25 PM
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Do you believe women have an upper hand in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:59 PM
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The guy fighting to pay makes me less likely to want another date. See from my point of view (man) who is pretty open minded about this subject. It is always astonishing to see how easy you lose interest. I had met several different situations in my dating life and I know that if I am interested in someone I better offer to pay during the first date and most often than not actually paying brings me more "points". I can't believe you lose interest while a man try to play the seduction game and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:57 PM
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Suspicious then happy then excited
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 12:48 AM
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I hold doors for men for equality \0/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:09 AM
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The problem is saying beta is "bad" like being bad at math. You find it bad because you don't find it attractive. I am finding it good because I am a sensitive beta who enjoy loving relationship ! So being myself as "beta", that I call sensitive romantic guy, would give me no sucess if I follow you. But I want to be successfull with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:22 PM
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What do you expect by doing that? That they are going to reciprocate right away? They've just met you (not on the street) and you hope that they are experiencing love at first sight. I expect to have some romantic relationship: ONS, LTR, Dating. Whatever is good for us and according to what we both want. Sexual interest is one of the bases of romantic relationship. My life showed me (and it's my life, I won't say you're wrong if you have another life) something important : if a woman isn't attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:40 PM
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You are the one who believe women have the power. It is in your head. I don't think so but I accept your point of view. We see world differently I guess. I agree with every words you said except that. every single one. One more time I do not go to stranger in the street or in unknow place. I just think there is a difference between "going to say you want to fuck sommeone in the street" and "Express your sexual interest (even if it's not in crude words) early". I read your comment as if there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:22 PM
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And you absolutely right about that ! What I am saying is, if he wanted to sleep with you directly it would have change nothing about who he is nor how good you are together. You have the power and men (or at least your patner) made an effort to fit what you find "good". When you say : Usually people who are not creeps approach people they have met a few times and learn to appreciate through social activities in their mutual social circles. It's false, having something else behind only look is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:56 AM
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See with your partner, your answer fits your view. What would happen if you wanted to sleep with him directly ? The fact he played your game (not in a bad sense, I am glad you're happy together) make you being happy. But the only reason it happened it's because you wanted it and he probably felt it. Would you think bad about him if you know he wanted to get into your pants the first time he saw you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:47 AM
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Most people tend to rationalize their life. i hope most TRPers don't actually believe in what you say. If you live in real world, you know that women are shallow cunts (as much men are shallow pigs). That's just something even here you shouldn't say. In another thread some women urge men to stop deshumanize women and "learn to know them". More I am here, more I see all of our discussions turning around the power play of dating. Women get away more easily being shallow because they have the sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:44 AM
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I have two questions, do you think your partner wanted to sleep with you the first time you met ? did you want to sleep with him? I don't approach women in the street, however I hit on women in parties or in bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 10:48 AM
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You're wrong for me. I realized that some blues are reder than myself. I am purple because I don't like how TRP presents things and some of their concepts don't fit my own life. TBP at the opposite isn't oppose to a lot of RP concept but hate men inside TRP. I don't hate people, I generaly have ampathy. TBP doesn't think RP sucks, they think TRPers sucks without trying to understand them. I think most of them are living a good life and have not so much trouble with dating so they think other sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:39 AM
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To be honnest, that's how I felt most part of my life. Because who I am I always thought I would embarass women with my desires. I took me years before accepting that "wanting to sleep with someone" isn't bad or creepy toward this other person, even if she doesn't want it. I don't read mind, I try to be as respectfull toward everyone (men and women) as possible, but just the fact of wanting to sleep with someone seems creepy sometimes. Do you believe it is possible for a woman to just want to sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:02 AM
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Hahaha We are out there myself include !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 06:47 PM
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I don't count the time when I saw on women's profil "I am picky, I am awfull, if you can't handle my worst, you don't deserve my best" and all of BS. Does it mean every women do it ? I do have a catchy sentence on my Tinder's profil (not as this one tho). At the end of the day, women AND men on Tinder, looking at pictures/education.... So this guy expect an hookup like everyone else on Tinder (which is not true either I met amazing women on Tinder).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:53 AM
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Women are no more shallow than men. For me this is the problem around all the discussion here. Coupled with the fact that men have in general a higher sex drive. Men play the number game (NAMALT but a lot) and while we hear, even here, that "women aren't only flesh", which is 100%. What is confusing/hurting for men is their behavior are as ours. Women are shallow, men are shallow but it's often the men's fault. I think it's a power play mixed with jealousy. What TRP call hypergamy, I d call it n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:26 AM
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While I share your point of view (even if I am one of the rare men admitting I am a sensitive guy with women). Steaks and blowjobs are still really good points to make a great relationship :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:58 AM
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Some women love sex, other less. Take my experience. one more time it's easier for the best men but hookup culture exist because sex is good. Doesn't mean it exist as big as TRP say it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:04 PM
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oh no... and I forgot to answer to u/superhyperbole. I ask this because I do not believe AWALT, and yes there are different women like you. However when I am going to hit on a woman (there are techniques, RP or not), I don't read mind and I can't assume you are that special. So if (like it happened a lot of to me) women in general dismiss men quickly, I can't imagine special women. I just need to act like you're a normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:03 PM
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I am sorry I burst your bubble :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:56 PM
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They still were there wanting to sleep with you ! I just like to know how far you push the "I am in charge".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:55 PM
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Smaller doesn't mean it doesn't exist nor denying the top men have it easy. I think it depends where you are. There are so many women on Tinder here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:43 PM
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You know it wrong dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:42 PM
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Maybe, but leading is showing you're interested no ? If you want to be in charge you have to do it to the end. From your OP, you had "very handsome" men into you. I can't believe nobody waited to the end and see what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:41 PM
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Are you believing that or it's a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:24 PM
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I think it's a good point ! From my point of view, I don't mind if a woman leads to sex, but I have to understand she is interested. business meeting date doesn't sound like that !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:20 PM
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Most of my "hookups" were ethier completely sober,or having less then two drinks. Same, even if I drink but I am terrible at flirting when drunk because welll.. I am drunk and drunk people are rarely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:53 PM
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Try less handsome men. I never refused a hookup :) You just learnt that look != personnality. There are good looking confident men and good looking insecure guys.... so .... men see hookups as a way of 'conquering' a woman. no I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:47 PM
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But they knew how to become more attractive if they weren't lazy How do you imagine unsucessful guys out there ? I know what my gfs like in me. I know why I get rejected. Those two categories aren't things I can control and it has nothing to do with lazyness/motivation. There are always place of improvement of course but I don't think you can always blame people if they aren't "lucky".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:06 PM
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Every time a woman approached me it was "Yeaaaaah I will have fun". Don't make it more complicated than it is and no women don't approach only chad, just the vast vast vast majority of the time they do approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:24 PM
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I have a question for you: Generaly how many time does it get before you dismiss a potential partner? Let's say you find him attractive (not a 10, just ok for your standard).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 12:34 PM
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The thing is, what most of them mean is BEAUTIFUL women don't want them. I have pretty low standard sometimes, which is perfectly fine since I do like women. Do you think I never got rejected by 4-5 women ? I never dated model, I slept with women conventionally attractive. I complain that I get rejected because it's hard not because VS model look over me....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 12:09 PM
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ohhhh nice ! I hope you ll keep being in love with your SO :) but we might differ on the definition of co-dependency. I can manage to live my life and give always more to my partner. I don't stay in relationship (at least at the begining) if a woman is not madly in love with me when I am in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:41 PM
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Agree with you ! I have to calm my power of love in my future relationships !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:23 PM
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Why wouldn't it matter ? You know that pain leads to pain .... if men wouldn't suffer from AF, there wouldn't be TRP :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:39 PM
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My past showed me that I tend to act co-dependent to my partner. My partner's took me for granted. I know it's in my nature to cause that. I will probably never "dread" but should be less sensitive with my future partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:36 PM
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From what you say on this thread, believing on AF. Don't you understand why it hurts some men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:12 PM
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Even if you're true about the OP. I am still suprised to see how many women voted for Trump !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:57 AM
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That is completely true and I share your point of view. We all won the genetic lotery. Not all of us won the nowadays' attractive part of it !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:49 AM
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I see what you mean. Thanks for sharing ! I was just surprised by your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:42 AM
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I share a part of the op point of view. We are all "shallow" because attractive people are better in a genetic point of view. Judging someone on look is natural. However it has negative consequences not because of others point of view on my relationship (thing I really don't care) but because it set appart a lot of what we are as human. for me judging on look as op says is different than being "shallow". I am convinced that our culture put norms of attractiveness too far and that don't give us m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:42 PM
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You thought you were special ? No ofense really, I am really confuse. I know most of my "preferences" concerning women are more than classic among men. I don't think short men are specially mad. I mean they (we I should say as a short man here) are mad but not more than any "negative" trait one can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:25 PM
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TRP is hypocrite because it serves their selfish needs. That's not hide btw, that's why they embrace the amoral part of what they believe in. Who cares what's more shallow? I was answering to this sentence. I do care and some other people care and not for morality but also because being "shallow" (I hate this word) might have negative conseuences. And it implies better look = better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:22 PM
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I can do a lot of stuff and reach a lot of goals, by working on my skills. I will never be able to change my genes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:16 PM
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I had no idea height was such a thing until reading RP. how could you have loved tall men and thought it wasn't a thing? I am really confuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:11 PM
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The word shallow has negative consequences. We are human (even if we are animals too) and you can't dismiss the importance of our brain, actions, society of who we are. When I read this kind of OP, I would really like to know if the most attractive mates could really do better in the wild like animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:09 PM
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Probably because most of us didn't win the genetic lotery which allow us to be loved for "shallow" reason. However we might find that we have some value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:06 PM
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Why make it you sad ? I do it. Not always but if a RomCom is one of my partner favorite movie, it's normal she wants to share with me and normal me to watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:28 AM
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Only to please my partner. However I know I can be a terrible bf in this aspect since I can't stop but making fun of this kind of movie and saying out loud how I find them stupid while watching them :$
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:04 PM
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Come on SkinnySweaty. I said "team men" :o Nobody will force anybody don't worry. We can point out the pickiness of women without forcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:14 AM
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Well to answer that and speaking absolutely for the "team man". How many time in my life I heard "I always said I didn't date "X" until I met my now bf who is "X". It makes me reevaluate what I think.". Women should keep their real requierements (we all have some) and open themselve to other kind of men. I think it's a SMP "problem", women having more choice could be more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 08:25 PM
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He's still above average That's the most important, what you think of him is linked to your relationship (which is more important for you btw). There is a difference by falling over top attractive men and real world. I am "BP" when I believe there is always more for relationship's creation than women falling all over us. I am "RP" (or believe that only look count) when I think that no matter how amazing your H is or if you're higher SMV, if he wasn't attractive enough you'd next him in a second …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 06:59 PM
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about your look and your H. I have to admit that I never saw you. But I heard you're really attractive. Even if your H is a bite less attractive than you, he is still good enough for most women. People tend to think we always want more while the problem here is being "not good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 06:41 PM
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It's called Bumble, no it's not new, you should check it out! I will thx :) I didn't know it. I think you miss understand my points. I never said women have no problem and you are free to criticize men, we are not angels ! far from it. If it was standard for everyone to know someone for say, 2 weeks, before initiating any sex or romance, I think we would see a lot more equal numbers for initiating. I think you're right on that, men are responsible for the easy sex available for women. I just ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:16 PM
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I think that is a myth men tell themselves so they can justify harassing women. I don't understand this, nothing justify harrasing someone... Women doll themselves up to go out, make profiles on dating sites, I mean come on, one of the most popular dating sites is where only women can contact men. I don't know this website, is it knew ? because that's not what I knew all my life. You deny the fact that men have to play the number game take a lot of first step and get rejected a lot ? If a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:47 PM
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Actually, people with light eyes are subconsciously perceived as more "trustworthy" than people with dark eyes. I didn't know that ! thx :) Culture took our attraction to secondary sex characteristics and made it into an extreme caricature (likely to sell products). That's was essentially my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:44 PM
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In fact, women started being more successful than men I think you make great point. I would like to have your opinion about something. I spend a lot of time trying to get a woman, I always kind of did. You don't think the fact women are in a passive position toward dating give them more time to become more successful? Knowing that you can be slutty and it's easy take of from your shoulder a big natural envy. While we have to be proactive for this and so not focusing on improving ourselve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:17 PM
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But, the percentages of successful males to unsuccessful males probably remains unchanged despite the large numbers. That's a real good question, most of the discussion here is saying that it's harder and harder for the average joe and women ask more and more (for good reason, as you pointed out, women is the picky gender) height, muscularity, facial symmetry, compatible pheromones Height : wonder why being taller would give you an advantage in the wild or make you more intelligent. I think I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:12 PM
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Humans are the only ones concerned with escaping the natural mating dance. Human is the only ones with that many options and that's when things become more complicated. Best among 100 != best among 100.000. Because if they don't, then their entire genetic legacy is over. Perhaps they understand on a deeper level that the performance and sexual selection are what keep their species strong? Tell me what in the mating choice of women help us becoming a better species !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:55 PM
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What about other men ? Saying some part of dating scene hurt me (a man) and complain about it is just a human thing. Like women can complain about trouble they have (yes their life isn't perfect). There is more than 2 kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:07 PM
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I do think player aren't good for women. Being seeing only as a fleshlight is obviously not good ! Your points are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 09:01 AM
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Of course they are. If you take this hypothesis. I agree with you. That's not how I see gold digger. I can't imagine it tho them being attracted to the man behind the money the same way a player will be attracted to your body. gold digger is really interested in things he is too, eating nice things, driving nice cars, That's not part of who you are but part of what you have !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:28 AM
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But gold digger aren't attract to the man for his experience or value. She isn't attracted, she is interested in his money. Or maybe we haven't the same definition of gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:12 AM
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Pussy is part of you right ? So they kinda love part of who you are. Money is what you have. Loving your pussy > loving your money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:47 AM
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I don't look that good and sometimes I fuck what I say or miss my flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:31 AM
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it's not something I think, it's a fact !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:23 AM
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Being able to find a woman when I want without too much effort / have several options available.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:22 AM
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Even if I am not popular with women. I am not feminine. Saying you're a man only if you suceed with women is over simplify the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:10 PM
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But sex is fun. That's why as men we are jealous of women who can get sex easily ^ ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:42 PM
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ShortThrowawat2k16. Listen mate. even if I am a bite taller than you I am still short. I won't tell you that height isn't important nor that "the taller the better" dosn't exist. But seriously.... if a woman is attracted to you it doesn't mind if you're 5'5", some women prefer (and I say prefer this time) taller men but it doesn't mean they don't like short guys either. If this becky cheerleader is madly in love with you. You're the only one who prefer her 6'4 ex.... don't let your height destro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:35 AM
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that's the most important ! I am glad for you ! Hahaha you're sweet but I don't deserve someone perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:40 AM
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Purple, Already had, she was in an open relationship. Everyone agreed or it would have been a no-no for me. I hate cheaters don't want to be one or help one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:19 AM
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hahaha let think about that: If someone improve with age it's a clear sign of genes' superiority. I am sure if you find a perfect guy it will still be perfect no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:45 PM
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hope life will change your mind ))
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:41 PM
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That's sad :( but meh women are strange and picky creatures ^ ^
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:55 PM
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Hahahaha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:55 PM
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I see, maybe. I believe in "alpha widow" but for both genders and not always with the RP alpha alpha. I saw too much people can't get over an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:20 PM
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It assumes that his physical characteristics is what makes her happy. If she is attracted to you, why who you are is less good than a prime athlete ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:18 PM
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What is your opinion on this question ? I don't really understand why it would be a problem but I will let the RPmen answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:01 PM
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I'd probably be turned off to know that a current 10/10 was previously a 3/10 Really ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:18 PM
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I do believe you since everyone from RP and BP agree on this subject. It's just so different from how I see life. I guess I have to look around me better !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:43 PM
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I am a short guy and I think people are pretty open about what they think of height !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:31 PM
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Am I almost a special snowflake ? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:30 PM
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hahaha :D you're ready to become de good dictator, love the logic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:26 PM
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hahahaha, you.... ^ ^
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:21 PM
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I don't think it's taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:19 PM
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I hope a woman will fuck me because she likes sex and is attracted to me. No matter if she fucked hotter dudes...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:18 PM
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Come on, don't do that with me.... I don't AWALT, I don't say women never approach nor are rejected. I might live in a different galaxy but here men approach way more and get rejected way more often. I ll try to move where you live to see another situation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:17 PM
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How so ? I am genuilly interested in this topic. That's not how I see life, I don't think I overrate my attractiveness nor the men around me. So I always wonder where it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:38 PM
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Why everyone say this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:35 PM
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It somehow pissed me for some reason, like Dude stay in your Lane she's too hot for you. www.xojane.com/issues/im-fat-and-i-have-sex-with-hot-strangers Do you apply league to women too and told them to stay ugly and not fuck hot guys? Leagues are a fact. I know where my place is, but sometimes there is more than that. I don't count the number of women more attractive than me I made out with, I had several sexual partners who were more attractive than me. Who are you to just tell me "don't go aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:33 PM
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that's high school... you can't compare it with the real life As pointed by several women here, there are women in the hook up culture and women out. Knowing a woman is open to have sex, limit one factor of rejection. You don't seem to understand what is it to be a man and face a lot of rejection :) On a side note, I was part of several rugby team or hang around sports men. There are women who turn and who are easy !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:14 PM
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I don t play the game of "women have everything". That s not my goal. I just try to aknowledge what kind of difficulties I can encounter in my man s life. I disagree when you say getting laid is easy. Not for me. Thx for the wild phase. I ll try to remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:50 PM
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I do see a lot of People unhappy regardless the gender. We favor the instant pleasure and are less keen to relationship. Some People are fine and want this ! Since women have more power in this department, the crurent market is a bite easier for them (not espacially better). It s not bad, Just a fact I see around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:47 PM
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Yes exactly, sexual freedom favor women more than men. I should have said "I can't have ot both way". that's how sexual revolution of women affect me negatively. They have way more options (in average), so while they enjoy their "slutty phase" (sorry I don't know a less pejorative wording) which leads me to have more ONS, they aren't focusing on building a relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:01 PM
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I am glad to hear that. That's great to have good news on here. We all talk about difficult subjects which affect people and bring often some pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:54 PM
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Thanks :) I hope you ll always be happy in your relationship ! wish you a lot of love with your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:50 PM
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Your points are just and you have the right to fix any requierement you want. Now please for 2s be in a man's shoes, in the other post someone link this article : http://www.xojane.com/issues/im-fat-and-i-have-sex-with-hot-strangers Do you believe league apply only to men ? What you list has your requierement is pretty classic. The problem is thinking as a man that you can't be sexy unless you're in the right league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:48 PM
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woaw I stop you right now : how does her past or other women's sluttiness "bring pain" into your relationship? I love "sluts", I love sex and don't really mind the past of my partner until she is slutty with me and love me. How does women having ONSs affect your relationship? Open women sexual freedom combine with the fact (as pointed out here or in some feminine articles) that dicks are the cheapest good of the world makes that women can have the options to fuck around. I don't condamn that, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:05 PM
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hahaha I see what you mean. Right ! Go sluts \0/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:44 PM
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Pussies are high value not sluts. This article is just painful to read for a man all the "getting a hot man is such good for your self esteem" is something you know can be understand only by women. It would help my self esteem if I could fuck VS model I have to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:23 PM
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hahaha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:28 PM
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Exactly ! that's why we need to be more educated an reflected on our beliefs. On the other hand, a lot of people who defend that tend to be afraid of some reality. On your exemple, there are problem with Islam nowadays, not all muslims but some. Not aknowledge this fact leads to a lot of problem. And to come back on our PPD topics. I've saw and lived situation where promiscuous women want to "slow" things. While from her point of view it's not a big deal and she has her own motivation. We need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:27 PM
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What I am saying is: I agree that women sexual freedom brings me more sex, more ONS, more "sluty" behavior I like. I don't think having more ONS compensate the fact that sexual liberation brings more pain in my relationship life because the fact women want to access this sexual liberation isn't compatible why our relationship. And I think blowjob from a stranger < loving relationship. Not everything is black or white. I don't hate women's freedom and support it, you do whatever the fuck you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:17 PM
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You are jealous, insecure and hurt and therefore decide that she must be bad person for hurting you like that even though she probably didn't do anything bad at all. this is so true and should be applied as much as possible. I think the roots of jealousy is thinking : "those people can get sex and I can't, the must be better than me." Sex is easy to get and cheap unless you can't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:11 PM
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I do support feminism to some extend (you know more opportunities less discrimination toward women etc...). As IamTheWalkingMenu said, the change of power is a key notion. I would like to add that women (or feminists?) think that men only want to fuck around as you post seems to say. Of course it's fun to have more women who are free to sleep around. However, some men like me and I am sure I am not the only one, want companionship. One of your post expressed when you wanted a sexual freedom phas…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:05 PM
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Fairly attractive, i think. Listen for me (I am a big fan of "look is everything"), this is the core concept of men's suffering. You don't need to be Brad Pitt (or your roommate) to be sucessfull. There is a minimum cut-off as we talked a lot here. TRP emerge like IRL discussions saying that women are shallow pigs like men could be. While it's not bad and women are attracted to what they are attracted and it's great. What is inside you can "shine" thanks to your look. People often push the narra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:47 AM
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There is something I don't understand. You're blue flair. I understand why madscientistlove say this since she is "red". Do you want a man who is like RP discribe without him to read RP too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:55 AM
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I would like to know, how do you look ? What is common sense for you ? I don't follow RP because it doesn't fit my life. Most of the "RP truth" are just from my point of view trivial (:p). However nobody would call me a "natural" because hmmm I am not really sexually desired by a lot of women. TRP is a toxic place to be. But those men search a solution and unless you have a magic trick to become successfull... I understand why they try to fight with the cards life give them. We can make a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:33 PM
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A lot of people (if I understand well) are thinking they're RedPillers because of your third point. How do you separate the both ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:56 PM
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Or they like to play it like this to make it good to sleep while in relationship or make other people cheat on their partner "It's in my culture, stop worrying that much and suck my dick/ lick my pussy !"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:02 PM
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It's just pain We react to be in different way. Break-up is the worst thing that can happen to me (in an emotional sense of the term of course), I am an absolute monogamous guy. They react like that because they get told a thousand times that it is bad. They react like this because it's hurtfull.... Being cheating on is a pure denial of what you are. Maybe in another context (which might be due to the culture but it's another topic) where SMV doesn't exist. Go to France and you see what I mean. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:42 PM
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It does and I agree with you. That's why I wanted to know what was behind this wish of having more option. If it's because the grass looks greener there... I don't think OP would really need more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:13 PM
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You can be friends with multiple people or have multiple pets and still suffer if you lose one of them I hope you will never have a hard break up with your heart broken :) It's the break of trust. Exactly, that's why if monogomy was so "socially constructed" and not natural, people woudn't react like this. Why do they crave sex with others in the first place? That's a good question indeed :) Gets brainwashed into most Most men I know aren't really into sharing their partners (even if they cheat …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:10 PM
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I don't know, I just want to be happy. Having more option doesn't mean you ll be happy. It can help I understand this as someone with few options. But always wanting more is for me a huge problem in our society. In dating or everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:07 PM
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Nope I didn't ! Will search about this. Thanks for enlighten me about my mistake :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:36 PM
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Is there any studies to back this up ? (don't want to bother you for the sake of it. It's of course a man's fear to read that and want to know if there is any confirmation biais)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:31 PM
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Why people suffer after a break-up ? Why people kill themselve or their spouse when they get cheat on? Why people come crawling back after get sex outside of the reltionship? It does not need to be enforced for everyone. I do think there are polyarmory people and it's not socially constructed. Different people like different things and feel better in different relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:13 PM
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Why would you like more options? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:10 PM
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No I don't believe monogamy is socially constructed. Why would you normalized polyarmory? Women have already options... Even more than men when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:08 PM
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Or having a vagina :D To be fair, with my partners (I don't have N-count, just an average one) there was no correlation between their beauty and N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:48 PM
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Why would the N-count person should be "hot" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:27 PM
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I agree with you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:20 PM
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that's a valid point !
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:23 PM
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I agree with your tatement except the first sentence. I do think men are attracted to more women than the opposite. Women are pickier on look from what I saw ! But I accept that we might not have the same vision, your life might have shown you something different :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:52 PM
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Probably, we all have our deal-breakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:59 AM
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can you developp your way of thinking :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:58 AM
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This depends on why this person is virgin/inexperienced and why the other partner has a high n-count. Let say that I think sex is cheap, easy and fun. The problem in the jealousy/insicurity department comes from this. I had women completely in love with me, I think I am a lucky guy when I look at what some women gave me. However I am not a chad, I do have insecurities about my SMV. I love "sluts" because I love sex, I however doubt about myself because I often wonder why I am "not good enough" t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:29 AM
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Why do you think it's a tragedy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:27 AM
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You have the luxury to complain some men are interested in you ;) Big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:26 AM
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I can't say it better. I still think it would be amazing to find a solution to this problem (for men and women). I understand how this can affect someone, however one partner's sexual past, doesn't change the compatibility they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:12 AM
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From personnal experience: knowing women, seeing why women around me reject men. Spending some time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:35 AM
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I am sorry that my broken English is something you have to deal with :) we can switch to my native language if you want ! I say something really easy : some men, myself include, are smart enough to not based everything on look. I had enough dates, enough women in my life (as friends or not) to know that someone mind, who one is inside, is important. This fact doesn't change the fact that I am shallow and physical attraction is really (really, really ?) important. So when we talk about look, I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:25 PM
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And this is something that doesn't fit my life experience, maybe because I live in a big city. Maybe because what a woman is in her brain can improve her attractiveness for me. Attraction is mostly based on look (for me). If you have women's friend you know how judgmental they could be. If you date women, you know what are their look requirement. I don't complain but saying men are more shallow is just just fake. Look how women push for their "preferences".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:12 PM
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let me defend TRP for a while through your post. TRP think women are children because your behavior was indeed childish. Let me explain. Because as a woman you could afford your behavior you mix two verb "NEED" and "WANT". You didn't need sexual freedom, you wanted sexual freedom, for a good reason, because it's great and as most human you like sex and being wanted. I see dozen of women that I want to fuck EVERY FUCKING DAY. Because me as a man (and not a chad) I cant do it, I soon realize that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:13 PM
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One of the "RP truth" that fits my life is women judge more based on look than men. Or to reformumalte it, women are way more picky on what they find attractive with a severe list of requirement with few deviation. I think women put more effort on look so they could match their requierement for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:45 PM
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I know, I met on here healthy RP men don't worry even if TRP isn't for me nor I want to apply it. I still try to take the good from it and be open to the people of the sub. I didn't read the book of pook I can't pronounced myself on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:27 PM
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that's a solide advice for everyone around here. Here however, I see other ways to see life or live it. That's really interesting in my goal to open myself and search healthy relationships !
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:11 PM
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I see what you mean and you're probably right. That's to be honnest one of the only thing I should learn from TRP of MGTOW. For personnal reason and some low male self esteem I still put "pussy on a pedestral"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:59 PM
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ok :) I don't wish you to loose it but I would be curious, I saw different women that you. But to support your POV, I saw women getting hot disgusted by new attention because they knew the real nature of men's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:10 PM
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Why ? I think we as men get validated when we get pussy. so saying you want pussy is for me linked with "validation". and I am curious about your way to think since you posted this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:09 PM
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You think if you didn't get this validation you wouldn't miss it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:53 PM
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Can you really separate the both concepts ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:13 PM
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I do not think it's a problem for manospherian men, it's a "problem" for men in general. Among all my characteristics who define what I worth, I am a male. I do want to have sex with women, I do want to be loved and love in return, I do want companionship. How this male value could be judged or used without women ? My self worth as a male depend of women 100% of the time. And if I have no validation from women it means I have no male self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:39 PM
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With me you just were so I take it :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:10 AM
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Thx :) you're sweet !
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:02 AM
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That is what you think of it, not my partners, it's not more humiliating that having some of a woman's wet on my face after I lick her. Don't judge people for what they like. I don't humiliate my partners, I respect them enven if what they like doesn't fit your way of life. If a woman doesn't like facial or cum I won't do it for the sake of it.... You know communication ? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:55 AM
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No I like being the dominante one in bed and be in charge, that's nothing to do with what I feel outside the bed nor for my partner. Is it something you don't understand ? I never talk about humiliation as you think of. As a good beta, I don't do stuff that my partner don't like :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:45 PM
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luckily I am a man ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:29 PM
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That's when I deconnect myself from all the positive sex movement. I do love sex a lot AND I am a a fucking sensitive beta. Why would you separate the 2 ? It leads to the AF/BB RP minset.... Like if a women needs to fuck bunch of men to be "sexually open and positive". Why someone who love sex a lot couldn't have fun in a LTR. The fact that I want to dominate you in bed, facial you doesn't mean I don't want to give you everything of me and couldn't die for you (aka knight in shining armor).... W…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:22 PM
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That is what I think too and why I have trouble to swallow the "confidence" pill !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 08:23 AM
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And now the question is could you improve everything to a "good enough level". I don't think so :) and that's when insecurities come. All this vindict about "insecurities" is awfull, "confidence" is an over-use term. Yes some people just drown themselve in self pitty and do nothing. However it's normal that social norm have a negative impact on a human mind if they are not amazing. should it stop you ? of course not. But saying "it's your fault blabla" bring another weight on an human's shoulder…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:20 PM
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if you live how you want you shouldn't have insecurities and are probably happy. So no problem :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:46 PM
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Ok, we had a lot of discussion here about look or "confidence" etc... I am a man of fact. A real fact is "First impression" count... a lot and there is a lot of stuff about that you can't change. Changing your state of mind won't deal with fact. Even worse, not having insecurities could tend you to think you're better than you are. Insecurities are just human. I do agree that self pitting isn't a good thing. Work to improve and destroy the insecurities which could be destoyed. For the others, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:38 PM
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what are you calling insecurities ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:26 PM
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I think it highly depends on the country. In France it's around 3% of ART for heterosexual couples (I don't know how many get sperm donor) and I don't know how many single women go outside of our border to do it. What I know is we lack sperm donors and there was a media campaign to support it. This is in part due to the fact that France try to get rid of the donnors' anonymity. I checked again to be sure about what I said and apparently the law for single women didn't pass here ! only heterosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:12 PM
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when I read your comments, I realize I probably expressed myself poorly. My point is (in my country at least), only single women can get sperm donors (they could be lesbians but it's forbiden to be declared as it for now) and procreate as it. In our consumption society, they select the donor with special characteristics, which is for me eugenics. So there is more and more eugenics state of mind among our society. I didn't want to claim that eugenics take a significant weight among births. At lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:04 AM
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eugenics is becoming more and more important with all sperm donnor and single women who want to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:31 PM
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Why do you want to know that ? I will make a try without going to long. The perfect dates for me start within the few seconds. She shows up (not late :p) and when she looks at me she smile and touch her hairs (or any signs she is interested). Then we walk in the city and hang out for a while talking and escalade things until we make out, then going home and have sex, going back outside for eating or a beer then finish the night together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:45 PM
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I wonder why you think it's ironic ? I think it's pretty human to want to have one's cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:02 PM
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I do agree with what you say. I think there is still kind of "team men" and "team women". Relationship between human are touchy and hard. I think it's natural to sometimes seing things though your gender glasses. I tend to think everyone can be blame and we should point out asshole men and asshole women or bad choices of both gender. My stories are special (afterall I am a special snowflake :p). I will say it again I am a sensitive man (I could make a thread to see if there are some people who t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:31 PM
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It is a bite off topic, however. Let me give you a non RP man point of view which can maybe give a grayer reality. I always had a lot of girl friends, this kind of stories happened a lot and due to the social dynamic which leads men to initiate a lot of relationship, I thought when I was younger that assholes "tricked" women into relationship before revealed themselve as assholes. I thought men had an upper hand on the dating market, then I grew up and realized that the women's choices are as im…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:17 PM
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I am half-proud but still proud. We all make mistakes when love is involved. I am sure you did well as a gf for him and you still had the nerves to cut it off. Here we say : "il vaut mieux tard que jamais"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:16 PM
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Good call DG :D I am proud of you !
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:56 PM
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I don't mind, people do whatever they want ! I couldn't handle it, an open relationship would destroy my mental health :) so to answer you question, it would be an instant deal-breaker. I would have an ONS with this kind of women but nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:56 PM
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what you say is indeed the most part of the truth and I do share the point of view that look is absolutely not a good indicator about hapiness nor relationship success. Even myself can get laid and I can get laid more attractive women. That's not what I wanted to point out. They have the upper hand on average I don't deny women's difficulties, I don't say women have a perfect life or are happy. But I deal with average women, I am not focusing on 8 9 10 (I do know my place too). Having it easier,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:50 PM
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I agree with everything you say but that s not how I interpreted the OP. All human prefer 8 9 10. Women like good looking men and it's nothing new. We go back on an amazing topic here: preference vs requierement. I do think women are way pickier (read shallow bitch if you are from a man pov). I do prefer Jessica Alba but that doesn t mean I am not attracted to my chubby bar slut. I am shallow ? Yes of course. The real discussion men do here is "is the minimum of look" is too high. Some believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:17 PM
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I am not a woman, however from my relative experience (which is average). Look != good sex != more pleasure. I don't think people seek great sex for ONS. They search someone they want to fuck. I don't see how is it biological for women to get hoter guys ...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:21 PM
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The difference between French society and other nations is that they are simply pragmatic about this facet of life which is as old as the human race itself. Lol :D the difference is we don't have the daily mail :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:42 PM
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(i) Nope (ii) probably around 10-12 (first year middle school) when a lot of girls already turned around same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:54 PM
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I do think beautifull women get more opportunities and that's the core problem. that's how I understand the OP, they get more than just sexual gratification. I do think competent people comes in all shape. I have several examples around me which prove this. The perfect one is a woman I went on a date with, she was indeed beautifull and actually pretty smart doing high level studies. However while she was studying she was offered a manager post with a full improvement skills programm. She had no …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:01 PM
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What is "deeper" level for you ? I would love to think it's more about some superficial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:15 PM
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I think being more focus on what a woman feels is indeed a right approach to this "problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:14 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:13 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/11OcqkzzSmXb7q/giphy.gif EDIT: this kind of post has nothing to do on PPD....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 09:50 AM
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