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| 1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutThis is untrue imo. I’ve had men who would text and call me nonstop, hang out with me all the time, etc. who still weren’t genuinely interested. Requiring a man to financially invest in you to spend time with you is unfortunately one of the only ways to detect real interest. Now, that’s not to say that spending money ALONE is sufficient to indicate real interest. It is true that men who have $$ will spend it regardless of their interest level just to gain access to a woman. Given this, it is nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutIn major cities drinks cost $20+ per drink so it is a fair bit more expensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutBecause the effort we put into in order to prepare for the screening, and often the time we’re required to set aside, is no different than the time and effort required for a higher quality date lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutYes the men I genuinely desire would, in fact, be disqualified if they did not take me on dates and instead invited me to “come over.” 100%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutWhile true, I’d argue this doesn’t fully apply to men in their 20s/30s who still want to have children and a family someday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:55 PM |
| -5 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutI’m not saying it’s their fault. But honestly, the men who complain of being lonely should harbor resentment towards them men who “pump and dump,” not women who have raised their standards so as to not get their time wasted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:52 PM |
| -1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutI agree with most of what you said but even men in the top 20% will chase (to a certain extent). I’ve seen it happen many times before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:51 PM |
| -3 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutI never said I’ve been treated like this. I genuinely haven’t and that’s because I filter out low effort men. Coffee dates feel like job interviews. And I don’t care if men give me the benefit of the doubt, either. I’m not the one complaining about men offering coffee dates; I just won’t go. My point is that it’s MEN who complain about women feeling entitled to X or Y. I’m arguing that it’s honestly the actions of men that have lead women to decline coffee dates. If more men acted in good faith,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutExactly. But those men are trying to get the highest number of women to go out with them (casting a wide net), hence why they pick a low effort, cheap option like a coffee date. A coffee date allows them to date 10, 20, 30 women for the price of taking one woman out to a nice dinner. This is exactly why women have started requiring more than simply a coffee | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:46 PM |
| 2 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutNumerous women have posted on tik tok about this and on r/hinge, r/dating_advice, r/relationship_advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Okay. But if the guy is a 9, he can hook up with a 7… Slightly lower than a woman he could get for a LTR, but not unacceptable appearance wise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Well, I think any guy can be a player.. or at least attempt to be. I understand what you say about going out with men below my league, but I do not have “genuine burning desire” for these men, nor do I really have any interest in sleeping with them. TRP always says to only sleep w women who have “genuine burning desire” for you, which often means that men need to date someone who is of roughly the same attractiveness as them, or someone slightly less attractive than them. A woman will not have g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 11:32 PM |
| 5 | What really is FDS?I would agree with this. Many women have bad relationship experiences in their coming of age years and during their 20s. I know I definitely did. While I don’t think all the advice on FDS is correct (and I do not follow it myself), some of the advice about expectations/how a man should treat you is really helpful, especially for younger women who are used to accept the bare minimum (or less) from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.No it’s literally not? Theres comments on this post from men saying women have been willing to sleep with them no strings attached… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Men who are decently attractive can find women who are interested in casual sex w them. Problem is, those women tend not to be the ones that the men are most attracted to. Well, if you want casual sex, you may not be able to get your top choice for it, and men should accept that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Maybe they should focus on becoming more attractive so women would be interested in having NSA sex with them. Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Why not go after women who would be interested in a casual sexual relationship w him? If he’s at least decently attractive, there are women out there who would accept his proposed terms of non-exclusivity. Why pursue women who explicitly state they do not want that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:14 PM |
| 0 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I disagree. If a man is attractive (doesn’t even need to be a “Chad,” just decent looking), he can surely find at least some women who would be interested in pursuing a casual sexual relationship w him. Why not pursue those women, rather than ones who explicitly state that they are not interested in such an arrangement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Because, most of the time, a man knows from the very beginning whether the woman he is dating is someone he would take seriously and consider an LTR with. Usually men do not change their mind if their initial answer to that is “no.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Okay. If a guy is attractive enough to have women willing to sleep with him casually, why does he need to pursue women who explicitly state they are NOT interested in that? Surely if a man is attractive enough he will be able to cultivate options accepting of the terms (e.g., non-exclusivity) that he is proposing… Why do men pursue women they know would not accept their preferred terms and lie to them (e.g., by saying they are not sleeping with other women when, in fact, they are)? While I under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Depends how much she likes him. Most of my friends do not sleep around casually. Of the ones that have or do, I don’t know that a man ever explicitly asked her if she was seeing other men at the same time.. Men (in my experience) typically wait until the a woman brings up exclusivity, so maybe that’s why women don’t generally lie in that regard? FWIW, I think the guy that this post is about did ask me questions to see whether I was someone who would be sleeping with other men. He asked me, for e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Umm, to not be a piece of shit and explicitly lie to women? If a man is seeking a casual relationship, he can have one with a woman who is below his league in terms of who he could get to commit to him for an LTR. She may not bring up the exclusivity conversation, and if she does, it would not be for quite a while. Therefore, in that situation, no explicit deception is necessary. Am i incorrect on this? Again, I’d see what you were saying if absolutely NO women out there were open to casual sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I agree with your perspective, but I think it is mostly applicable when the man and woman involved have some social circle overlap. Many couples meet via dating apps, and in such situations, there is typically no social circle overlap between them. Given the lack of overlap, a man meeting a woman on a dating app is unlikely to be held accountable by other men (or anyone else, for that matter) for how he treats her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 05:43 AM |
| 3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Men seem to give better sex when you are their only option, not necessarily when they have feelings for you, although the two are not mutually exclusive. When you’re their only option at the moment, they’ll do more to keep you around than if you are one of many.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Yes- I’d say deceit works well for men who are capable of lying to someone and not feeling guilt. I would those men ought to be careful about ever developing feelings and wanting a relationship with the woman they are lying to because, if she finds out he lied, it’s over.. At least with your situation (looking for an LTR and not lying), you don’t have to live with the possibility of your wife/girlfriend learning that you lied to her at the beginning of your relationship. Ultimately, I could see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 05:31 AM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I think it is one thing to say you don’t want anything serious. That’s fine. What isn’t fine is to say you don’t want anything serious and have not been sleeping with other women. You are putting the health of someone who is trusting you with their body at risk simply because of your sexual desires. Why is it so hard to say “I don’t want anything serious, and I want you to know that I am not, nor will I ever be, sexually exclusive to you. I want you to know that so that you do not feel like you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I don’t know about most women as I am not a man and have not dated women. I know that, when I tell a man I am seeing that I am not sleeping with or dating anyone else, I am telling the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 05:25 AM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I was with you until you said “hold other men accountable.” What do you mean by that? Accountable to not lie to obtain casual sex? And I don’t know. Sure, if he doesn’t see you as someone for an LTR, he may not care about doing the right thing. But I think when a woman has been truly nothing but genuine with you, and has even gone out of her way to be kind to you, why lie to her? Maybe you can rationalize being dishonest to anyone.. but I think blatantly lying to someone who has been genuine and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.If they are receiving the majority of the attention, why deceive or lie to women about exclusivity to maintain a casual sexual relationship? Why not just choose to pursue said relationship with a woman willing to accept the terms (e.g., non-exclusivity) that they are proposing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Just curious, but does it typically happen with women who you wouldn't consider for an LTR-- perhaps because they are less physically attractive than women you have been in relationships with in the past? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I made a comment about this to someone else, but truth be told, men seeking ongoing casual sex from a woman often must lie if the woman is someone "in his league" for LTR commitment. Men seeking casual sex from a woman "below his league" for LTR commitment are less likely to lie because, in such instances, the woman has higher attraction for the man and is more likely to accept the terms (e.g., non-exclusivity) that he is proposing (at least for a longer period of time than the women in his leag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Best part about this comment is this was actually stated to me, it was a lie, and I truly think that is how he rationalized it in his head. Lmfaooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Men pursuing casual sexual relationships need to stick to woman slightly below their league - in such a situation, their genuine self may, in fact, be her fantasy. Likewise, in such a scenario, the man does not need to be dishonest and tell her he is excusive to her - she is more likely to deceive herself, or ignore her own "rules" because her attraction level to him is so high. It is when men pursue casual sex with women in their league that they tend to default to deception/dishonesty. Why? Be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Do you think it is more likely to last longer (say 6 months, rather than 2-3 months) if the woman considers the man a catch (or "out of her league")? I'd argue yes, but only because, in such circumstances, it would be difficult for the woman to replace the man and thus she less likely to get fed up and end it. A woman who is similar in terms of looks/status to the man in question may end it sooner because she could easily replace him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Yes, I am quite happy being alone :) I always tell men their competition is not other men, but rather, how my life is without them in it - like I'll stop talking to a man and literally have 0 other men on standby but I am fine that way, lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 02:15 AM |
| -2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Wait, wait ... hear me out. Men could just pursue women who would be OK with a casual sexual relationship with him. Men don't need to turn to prostitutes or deceive women then. Win-win. What's the issue? Oh, yeah, men want to have casual sex with women who are in and/or above their league. But the women in their league are being propositioned for casual sex by other men who are more attractive and higher status than the men in their league. Thus, if a man wants ongoing, consistent casual sex wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Probably some truth to this. But for a woman to prefer to believe the delusion, her attraction level to you needs to be high. I’d maybe go so far as to say she needs to perceive you as being “out of her league” to be willing to go along with that situation. This is because, if she wants a LTR and doesn’t view you as “out of her league,” she’s not gonna stick around long in the hope that you’ll eventually commit to her and will just go find another man who will. Even if she doesn’t want an LTR, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I’m sorry I’m getting confused. I posted another long comment replying to someone else that might be more illuminating. But, for me, when I say attractive, it is not just physical appearance. It encompasses the entire person- their appearance, character, morals, how they treat me and those I care about, their emotional and financial investment in me, etc. Because the other features of my attraction (e.g., financial/emotional investment) are absent in a casual situation or more limited in a LTR, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Guess I have strict boundaries because none of those phrases would’ve worked on me. Doubt they’d work with on me if said by any man, but especially not this one. Such phrases would be most likely to work for a man who is seeking to maintain a casual sexual relationship with a woman who possess VERY HIGH attraction towards him. Ultimately, that usually means that you are out of their league at least physically (but likely in other aspects as well). I just truly believe the only way to get a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Ultimately whether I would be ok with it would depend on (a) whether he expects me to be exclusive to him; (b) how attracted I am to him; and (c) the status of our relationship. I am not interested and have never been interested in ENM. I only sleep with one man at a time. He stated he didn’t care whether I slept with other men so long as he didn’t “know about it.” While he may truly be OK with that, I think it’s possible that he actually isn’t and only said it because he knew I would not take t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Agree with you. I’d say the problem is that many men do not want to “share” a woman with other men—even if they are only casually sleeping with her and do not desire a LTR with her. Some may be ok with it, but many are not. Ones who are not thus have an incentive to give the woman the idea that the relationship could become serious for as long as possible, even if they know it never will be. As long as a woman continues to have hope that a potential LTR may come out of it, she will continue slee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Yes. I don’t think this sub fully reflects reality in certain instances, with the discussion of casual sex/promiscuity being one such instance. Personal anecdote (ignore if you don’t want to read). I do not engage in non-exclusive sexual relationships and have never had a ONS. A man I was dating knew this & knew that I would no longer see him if he was sleeping with other women. Before each time we slept together, I’d ask if he had slept with anyone else recently (sometimes I’d phrase it as whet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Yes. Most men, if they could obtain such an arrangement, would like to have a woman they love be exclusive to them while maintaining the freedom/ability to pursue other casual sexual relationships or ONSs with other women. Most men cannot obtain this arrangement because the vast majority of women will not agree to be exclusive to a man who is not exclusive with them in return. Given this, most men who want to have one woman they sleep with regularly while maintaining options on the side must LIE… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.That is a good point. Thank you. I will keep that in mind. Depending on how recently I saw him, I will generally ask whether he has slept with any other women since I last saw him. While I consider that to be a good way to clear up any miscommunication, a man has still blatantly lied to my face when answering that question, sooo.. Maybe the main takeaway is that someone dishonest/deceitful will continue to be so regardless of how a question is asked? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.No disagreement with the first three paragraphs - but I do disagree with the last sentence in the fourth paragraph. Many women do not engage in ONSs and have no interest in pursuing a non-exclusive sexual arrangement. For these women, their interest in continuing to have a sexual relationship with a man is conditioned upon sexual exclusivity. She would rather NOT have sex a man at all than have sex with him while he is sleeping with other women concurrently. In such cases, a man should not lie t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:04 PM |
| 0 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.What about during the dating/early vetting stage before he has decided whether she is LTR material? I assume men take a while to make this determination, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Thank you for this comment. If a woman has enough attraction for a man, she may be willing to ignore her rules for him. What is key here is giving a woman the autonomy to make that decision. A man who deceives a woman to obtain casual sex does so because the woman does not have the requisite level of attraction for him to be willing to “share” him with others. Avoiding deceit requires a man to pursue casual sex with women who have this requisite level of attraction for them. Problem is, he may n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Better than lying to a woman and putting her sexual health at risk because you are selfish and not desirable enough for the women you want to be willing to “share” you with other women. Why can’t men look for women who are willing to “share” them and leave the ones not open to such an arrangement alone? No lying would be required in that case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:45 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.When you say they’ll do fine either way, are you saying that a woman who is sleeping with a “Top G” man in hopes of obtaining LTR status will continue to do so once she has discovered he has been dishonest about sleeping with others at the same time? Not saying this is right or wrong, just seeking to better understand what you’re saying. While I agree that most would likely prefer to sleep with one person regularly, I think there are some men who desire sexual variety, and therefore, would like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I didn’t know what getting played meant and you offered little elaboration. If a woman has lied to you about wanting an LTR when she only wanted sex from you, that is wrong and I am sorry that happened to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:35 PM |
| 0 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Don’t allow them to insult you and discontinue communications with them by blocking their phone number/social media profile. If it is in person, do not sleep with them and exit the situation. It is not as complicated as you are making it out to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:34 PM |
| 4 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Okay, but what constitutes lately? One week? Two weeks? My point is that men should not rely on semantics to lie. If a man believes a particular answer may affect a woman’s likelihood of sleeping with him, he should be honest. He should not use semantics to get out of telling the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Lying about dating exclusively is a lie made in pursuit of an LTR—that is, she does not want the man she is casually sleeping with (you, in this case) to disqualify her from a potential LTR on the basis that she is sleeping with other men. Such a lie is typically not made in pursuit of casual sex. I’m not really sure what you mean by getting “played” by women in the first point. Women don’t typically lie to obtain casual sex because they don’t need to. If a man does not want to casually sleep wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:26 PM |
| 6 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Yes, I understand why men do it. A woman who discovers dishonesty—that is, of the type laid out in the post—will no longer desire the man for a relationship or casual sex. Such dishonesty will be viewed as a serious breach of trust. Given this, if a man has any interest in pursuing a LTR with a woman, it is in HIS best interest to be honest with her and tell her he is dating multiple women until he chooses to pursue an exclusive relationship with one. While this honesty may cause some women to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I have not been dishonest with casual partners, so I can’t argue this point. I could see a woman lying if, for example, she wanted to pursue a LTR with the man and did not want her behavior to disqualify her from that being a possibility. If she truly only wants the man as a casual partner, dishonesty (on her behalf) is less likely. Again, I have no data to point to, but a larger percentage of men would be OK sleeping with a woman who has other sexual partners concurrently than the percentage of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Condoms do not prevent the transmission of all STIs. Genital herpes is still transmissible when using a condom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:57 PM |
| -1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Okay. No need to be rude. You can see my edit to the comment in question if you want- I don’t disagree with you, I just think that, most times, a woman is honest when seeking casual sex from a man. Maybe not if the ultimate goal is a LTR. Sorry for the confusion or unclarity. If you want to provide examples of how women deceive men in order to obtain casual sex from them, I am all ears. That is what the post is about. Not deception generally. Lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Please see my replies in this thread as I provided further clarification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Many women are forthright about a preference (or, in some instances, a requirement) of sexual exclusivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:42 PM |
| 0 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I’m not looking for plausible deniability. Women can (and do) deceive men, but it is unlikely such deception occurs in the same manner laid out in the post. Women tend to be more honest and forthcoming with the men they are casually sleeping with—that is, if asked whether they are sleeping with others, a woman is probably more likely to tell a man she is casually seeing the truth than vice versa. Again, I’m not disagreeing with you, but you aren’t making any argument with respect to the claim ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:40 PM |
| -3 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Nowhere in the post did I say women do not deceive men. ETA: Please see my reply below. Again I’m not saying women don’t deceive men, I just don’t think they deceive them in pursuit of casual sex by lying about sleeping with other men. It may be different, however, if she wants the man for a relationship and therefore wants him to believe she has been exclusive to him (while casually seeing each other) when that has not been the case. But, even in that case, that is deceit in pursuit of a relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.I agree with you- it is a lie. I am saying, from his point of view, he could rationalize it as not being a lie because he slept with the other woman week ago and does not plan on sleeping with her again. So, in his mind, he is not sleeping with anyone else “currently.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:28 PM |
| 7 | Men use deception, not straightforward lies, to maintain casual sexual relationships. Deception is just as harmful as lying.Deceit does not always require a statement. A “lie” requires a false statement. Deceit, on the other hand, often involves lies of omission—no false statement is made, but you aren’t being forthcoming with the truth when you know the other person would want to hear it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:27 PM |
| 1 | How to smoothly tell women you’re seeing other women?A guy said these things to me + then said I was the only one he was sleeping with or talking to .. so if you’re going to imply it using these phrases please do not add that she is the only one you’re sleeping with/talking to alongside them lol | /r/seduction | 03/01/25 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Signs a man is catching feelings for his fwb (woman)?How do I get him to catch feelings and want to commit? If he doesn’t then I’ll probably pull the plug on it soon but I’d obviously prefer that he does. Should I act less interested (e.g., less kissing, leave after sex etc)?? | /r/seduction | 08/10/24 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Signs a man is catching feelings for his fwb (woman)?I really like that he’s affectionate but only to the extent that it seems like there’s a potential relationship down the line. When he said he didn’t want anything serious right now I understood that to mean there’s no future relationship & that he was letting me down easy.. If there’s no potential of a relationship, I’d rather limit the affection as that will lead me to catch feelings and therefore risk the fwb situation completely. I guess my only question is, based on what I described, do you… | /r/seduction | 08/10/24 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Signs a man is catching feelings for his fwb (woman)?If he liked me, why would he be OK with me saying oh we shouldn’t see each other again bc you don’t seem interested and aren’t putting in the effort? Granted that was a couple weeks ago and he ended up saying he didn’t want anything serious at that point, but do you think his feelings on that have changed in recent weeks? What should I do? I’m going out of town for about 2 weeks in a few days, so maybe that will be enough of a break for him to lose feelings? Already told him to stop kissing me s… | /r/seduction | 08/10/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Best perfumes that you recommend?Bon bon by Viktor&Rolf is my favorite, but I also love flower bomb! Good girl is also great :) | /r/askFDS | 27/08/21 05:09 AM |
| 3 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?No I don’t. I know you’re right. It’s just hard because people get so angry whenever you question anything at all about their relationship/attachment to their SO. | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?I know. I agree with you. She was just sitting in my driveway on the phone to him for 30 mins after getting here so I just waited for her. She is a little boy crazy for sure .. it’s a new relationship if that gives you any indications. Lol | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?As he should feel inferior!!! I agree you are 100% right. | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?It’s our mutual friend that set us up! She had been on the phone to her boyfriend in the car for like a half hour once she got here so I was just talking to him waiting for her lol | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 05:18 PM |
| 7 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Even if it’s harsh, I definitely need to hear it. Also, I second wishing I found FDS sooner! FDS is literally my saving grace!!! <3 Thank you for the advice! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 11:21 AM |
| 21 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?You're right, I was romantically interested in him at some point. I guess the part that hurts now is that some of these men (him included) really truly do make you believe that you are their friend. He was there for me emotionally/mentally (most of the time) when I was going through stuff, and, I don't know... I guess it is just hard realizing that no, you really weren't their friend when it comes down to it. Not when sex is off the table anyways. But screw that. Definitely don't need that energ… | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 03:30 AM |
| 34 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Agreed. I saw a tweet recently that said: "Would you rather be the crazy girl or the girl with no standards?" Umm... definitely the "crazy" one if it means not being manipulated by these losers. Thank you for the advice queen!! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 03:26 AM |
| 35 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Also, thank you for taking the time to leave advice. It's greatly appreciated <3 | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:38 AM |
| 41 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Disgusting indeed. They want to be your only option while ensuring they have a multitude of options. No thank you. Thank you for the advice <3 | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:38 AM |
| 13 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Also, thank you so much for the advice! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:37 AM |
| 10 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?A few of my friends suggested that a guy getting jealous or mad about you seeing other men means that he likes you. But I agree with you 100% that it is about control, manipulation, or narcissism. I did not even consider the risk of STIs being a motivating factor, but that makes for another perfectly good reason. I'm personally not a fan of casual sex, so I didn't really plan on ever sleeping with him again, but it's too bad he showed his true colors to the point where a friendship won't even be… | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:36 AM |
| 21 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?Agreed. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. I would never be exclusive to him if he was not exclusive to me -- I think he will be hard pressed to find a HVW that will! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:15 AM |
| 73 | Why would my [F21] FWB [M23] be upset about the fact that I'm seeing someone else if he explicitly told me he didn't want a relationship with me?That's what I wanted to do, but my friend said blocking him on instagram or snapchat was "overexaggerating" because we never were in a relationship. But, in my opinion, all blocking means is you don't want them to view your posts/contact you any further! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Recent epiphanyThings like watching porn, liking a ton of IG girls, not texting an entire day, making snarky and rude remarks about other people... those are not things that typically change, there’s no point in asking him because you end up with situations of minimal effort, resentment, and / or hiding. Not OP, but I definitely needed to hear this. Thank you!! | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 01:01 AM |
| 5 | Men who want to be “friends” or are looking for something “causal” first?A great piece of advice I've heard is that, if a man tells you something that does not benefit his motives, believe it. As an illustration, if a man tells you that he does not want a relationship, but still tries to sleep with you, believe that he was telling you the 100% about not wanting a relationship with you --- it will not change! That's not to say that it could never turn into something more with these men, but men that explicitly tell you they are looking for a casual relationship or wan… | /r/askFDS | 27/05/21 12:57 AM |
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