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I agree with this completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:32 AM
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Men rarely compare their exes but women brutally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:30 AM
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Sex is important to my mental and physical health. This is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:38 PM
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Women being slutty isn't an achievement. But some like being that way, they just don't want other people to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:40 PM
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When a male is below average, he inferior everyday in pretty much every group settling. I disagree. There are plenty of not-so-good-looking men who are respected in nearly every group they are a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:38 PM
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It’s been a long time since this happened but there’s a small part of me that wants to message her and tell her how much that fucked me up and has damaged my entire life since then. Please don't message her. You'll end up feeling a lot worse about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:11 AM
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means they are still an evolutionary advantage This is not necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:01 AM
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That’s true. It’s just when a woman cares about you it beats everything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:11 PM
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Your therapist will actually do the same and ditch you. No one cares about men's problems. And it's not just when you do it constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:02 PM
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Saying something in passing like 'I feel lonely recently' signals to her that you're unable to attract a partner or friends. She's going to quickly distance herself from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:59 PM
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Because as soon as a guy admits his weakness, a lot of women find that extremely unattractive. Keeping things in is a lot safer socially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:45 PM
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But the woman chooses the man. That analogy breaks down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:42 PM
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That just refers to how neurotic you naturally are. Most socially anxious people know what they are doing wrong but they are too self-conscious to rectify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:27 PM
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You can't stop that if some women select men like that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:18 PM
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Just because you are social doesn't mean that you are socially intelligent. Being socially intelligent means that intuitively are able to articulate human behaviour academically. If you are socially anxious, you understand the rules perhaps better than someone who's not otherwise you wouldn't be anxious about the perceived (even if exaggerated) dangers of getting it wrong. The only reason why women are attracted to 'social' men is because collectively, more men can get a given low-status task do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:15 PM
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and men don't always grasp that I think they do and realize that it's not worth the effort. What's the point in doing all that stuff and dealing with a relationship when there are other things available to deal with your sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:07 PM
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I feel like the last 2 points are putting the cart before the horse. Before worrying about dating, we should make sure that there's a mechanism to stop particular women from severely overestimating their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:05 PM
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If you can't socially adapt you're not very smart. This is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:00 PM
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But it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:11 AM
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Honestly, men dress horribly now. I can guarantee that everyone will cringe looking back on their photos in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:48 AM
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But the point is that that's not how normal communication is defined nowadays. You could argue that old people are awkward at texting and posting on Facebook and IG. The rules are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:46 AM
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Yeah but the point is that those average-looking dudes are usually not that intelligent. Most incels are most likely above average in intelligence (otherwise they wouldn't be able to articulate modern sexual dynamics at the length that they do). Once you've articulated what's happening, it's almost impossible to find a gf because you're going to be completely paralyzed talking to the opposite sex; you're going to be hyper-focused on any sign of interest or disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:42 AM
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It's convenient to denigrate all the men you disagree with as an easy out instead of confronting the truth about what they are actually saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:27 PM
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Pre-selection is one of the biggest red pills there is. Once you see it happen, you can't see the world the same again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:05 PM
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Seeing the truth about a man instead of projecting. That's literally it but I've only met a handful of women who are capable of doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:45 PM
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I don't think women even empathize with men they find attractive. What they do is project on the guy emotions they think want him to be feeling. How many times have you seen a jerk get a girl and the girl saying 'he's only like that because he's afraid to show his true emotions' or something cringy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:43 PM
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I agree. For example, you may be too self-conscious about creating a Facebook account which inevitable means that in college you are going to be left out (since a lot of social events are organized through there) which will have an impact on the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:41 PM
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One of the advice for a unattractive guy is to just put himself in a position where a woman can observe his behavior for a long time. This used to be the case but with social interactions being so internet-based nowadays, she's essentially relying on how social you are perceived to be online through your photos etc. I've seen so many guys deliberately lying by putting photos where they seem way more social than they are on Instagram and women falling right for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:36 PM
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I mean you just have to open your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:48 PM
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Women do and they usually get it wrong affecting the whole dynamic at their workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:57 PM
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Sorry but for some reason, all the women I used to know have boyfriends that are addicted to video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:54 PM
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A good tip is to listen to women on what they say they are attracted to and then reverse everything they say to find out the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:31 AM
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If you're sociable in college, I think things can just happen. But I think it may be restricted to that case. Think about it, in college, I'm sure your friendships 'just happened', meanwhile, now that you're older, making a new friend takes a considerable amount of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:26 AM
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I think it works on all women. It only stops working when the woman figures out that he was acting the whole time; if he was naturally that way, she would have continued dating him. I think it's important that we be honest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:33 PM
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Surely if it works there must be something to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:53 PM
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The thing that gets to me the most is how women find extraversion attractive. Most extraverted people can only get things done because they rely on contacts, not because they have an ability to actually do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:42 AM
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Once the guy she wasn't interested in suddenly gets a gf, you can be sure she'll be interested in him all of a sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:38 AM
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Honestly, so much is tied up in sex that people don't realize. If you are inexperienced, after sex, your partner is not going to feel good about that encounter. It will affect every single interaction afterward. Plus, modern relationships rely mostly on the chemicals released during sex. If your partner doesn't feel anything, the relationship will quickly disolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:15 AM
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I mean, I got dumped after I lost my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:36 AM
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I think most walk of shames are people staying at their friends houses because it was too late to go back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:33 AM
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Your guy friends were lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:32 AM
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What's the point when you can just masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:29 AM
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If you are inexperienced you're going to be dumped straight away so you'll never learn. I think that was the point the OP was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:28 AM

You say this like it's a virtue, but the point is confidence and how one sees themself does not relate to how competent one is. This is what frustrates so many men; they get disregarded as a dating prospect just because another lesser man feels good about himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:09 AM
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Because women rely on the indicators on how other men react to their particular choice to judge how competent he is. An example of how this works is in the following: women by and large have no interests in sports yet they somehow manage to locate the man who is percieved to be the best in their given domain. If you're a male and are clearly more intelligent than your peers, in some circumstances, they're going to be like 'that man is so dumb that he can't even understand and use basic concepts'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:41 PM
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I would argue that it's easy for certian men to become high value but it's difficult for that value to be recognized. If you are above average or exceptional, there's a very good chance that you'll end up being perceived as a low-value man because average people won't have the intelligence to rate your skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:18 PM
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How is a football player a chad? All they do is kick around a football...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 11:56 PM

I think the OP is talking about a woman he's already slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:34 AM
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It's as if women cannot believe men want to feel desired, loved and to have a connection with someone. It's more than this though. They actively select men who have no interest in intimacy (cuddling etc.) and who are just interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:39 AM
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But maybe it's implicitly implied. In my eyes, becoming exclusive means that you have chosen to go by the title of boyfriend/girlfriend. Dating however means that you are trying out one guy to see if you want to go to the next stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:49 AM
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It's not just this. You have to worry about if the girl is able to accurately see who the better man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:44 AM
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This is the truth. It's kind of summarized in the statement women use often; 'he's not hot enough to be a jerk'. Kind of says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:42 PM
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Oral is way more intimate than PIV. PIV in terms of intimacy is the equivalent of a handjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:10 AM
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If hypothetically online dating was the only avenue for dating, then your first statement would be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:04 AM
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Be social, be a normal guy But then you pay the price of being completely boring and uninteresting. Any 'normal social' guy is just completely predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:51 PM
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I think you're right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:48 PM
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Whenever anything started off as 'friends' with me, it was always very clear that she was at least somewhat interested in me more than any of her other friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:46 PM
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to do this. You're essentially eating with a stranger you don't like, meanwhile having to act for an hour like you're interested, and then deal with the aftermath of telling him you weren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:39 PM
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Hell, they shame men for not taking rejection well Most men can handle genuine rejection. What they can't handle (and they shouldn't) is being led on and used.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:38 PM

Hardly and modern relationships even get to the stage where you're talking about children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:33 PM
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natural charisma No man has a problem with an honourable man with natural charisma getting a woman. The problem men have is when a clearly dishonourable man gets a lot of women through lying, arrogance (effectively tricking women into believing he's competent) and other methods, and then having women not believe him and thinking that he's just saying that because the dishonourable man is getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:02 PM
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Who’s paying for all the onlyfans out there? Who’s being thirsty in Instagram comments? Catcalling women on the street? A very very small proportion of men. It only takes 1 man to leave 500 Instagram comments, catcall 50 women, and subscribe to 20 onlyfans accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:59 PM
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I've noticed that women actually are more attracted to 'hypergamous men' in the way that they are attracted to a guy who they think has options. If a guy is willing to leave you over your physical attractiveness, you are going to naturally assume he has more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:40 PM
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inherently repulsed by promiscuity. They aren't though. They are hurt by the fact that their partner may have done more intimate things with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:39 PM
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This is the problem. The stereotype is that 'all men want NSA casual sex' and if you differ from that, women think that you must not be manly enough and essentially friendzone you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:38 PM
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There hasn't been a biological change in the species. But the rate of sexlessness has skyrocketed. This is the point that people don't seem to understand. Failure to find a sexual partner in today's culture has nothing to do with natural selection or even sexual selection. It's solely to do with social selection determined by the rules of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:34 PM

If the girl was nice I would tell my son off and immediately ask him to tell her in person. If the girl was horrible I wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:51 PM
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watching your partner having amazing pleasure I wouldn't be quick to assume this. The first time I had sex I didn't feel anything so I acted like I was enjoying it but then this led her to think that she must be a 10 so she effectively dumped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:49 PM
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What would you tell a girl if you got broken up a few days after you lost your virginity? So you're not technically a virgin but you're not very experienced either (with the downside of having a very awful experience being your only sexual experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:46 PM
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The thing is, this is highly dependent on what her friends think of you. She could be head over heals for you but if her friends don't like you, you'll be discarded quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:32 PM
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This is the truth sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:29 PM
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What about the people who start off at a 1 but then turn to a 0 because of awkwardness etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:18 PM
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Sorry, but support from men is 1000000 times worse than support from a woman that cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:17 PM
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It can be helpful if you're a man to try and find roommates to live with. If you find the right ones, they will enjoy your company and even take you to social events etc. They'll even understand that you may be a bit awkward but they won't care. Besides, being awkward can be endearing sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:16 PM
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This is true. The whole process of dating is meant to be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:10 PM
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Also, I'm not convinced that women are actually happy with the way they select men nowadays. It must be exhausting. They may like guy A but be peer pressured by their friends to select guy B because he has a better social media presence which her friends at first glance prefer. It's amazing how many flings that could have been relationships have suddenly deteriorated once the girl talked and discussed the guy with her friends (which involved showing social media accounts etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:45 PM
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Love does not exist above the age of 22. I'm not sure about in the past however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:22 PM
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The issue is that if the woman actually likes you, she'll be the one trying to make sure that you enjoy sex with her because she'll be worried that if you're not satisfied, you won't want to see her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:20 PM
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The thing is, this stuff happens when you're naive and it ruins you for the majority of your young adult years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:11 PM
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The thing is, porn is better for a lot of men in terms of pleasure. There's still that drive to have sex due to other reasons however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:08 PM
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help the average to below-average man Average to below-average men have no problem finding dates or partners. It's the above-average (in terms of skills) who have trouble because the average woman doesn't have the capability to recognize when someone is above average in intelligence or their craft since you have to be more intelligent than the person you are judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:11 PM
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Really? Any time this happened to me it was very sudden. I went from being treated amazingly to garbage in the space of a couple of hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:43 PM
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Nearly all rapes are conducted by already sexually active men. Women like you are actively selecting rapists and then blaming it on sexually unsuccessful men...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:38 PM
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This comment shows that you actually do care about unattractive men otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to denigrate them to such a degree. You care in the fact that you viscerally get angry if an unattractive man hits on you. If you didn't care, you would just ignore them. The thing that scares women the most is finding out that they are not as attractive as they thought they were. The reason they hate unattractive men is because it forces some women to realize that they aren't actually that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:37 PM
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Most sexual assaults are conducted by already sexually active men by an extremely large margin. That means that women are actively selecting sexual assaulters and blaming the guys who are getting no sex while actively sleeping with the perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:35 PM
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Maybe that's because women are inherently more vulnerable in dating? I don't think this is true. A very small minority of men have the intentions of physically hurting women however most men have been completely wrecked emotionally by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:23 AM
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No, those women are still thinking with their heads. They are actively aware of what they are doing in the hopes they'll become entangled with the guy if they give in to him. With guys they are just acting out of horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:21 AM
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'He's a dick to others but nice to me is something I've heard from multiple women. Best to just avoid those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:18 AM
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Honestly, if you come across a girl like that, it's best to just avoid her. There is no way you'll be able to reason with her. Trying to convince her that a guy is clearly abusive will just result in her thinking that you're just saying that out of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:17 AM
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As someone who's in their mid-20s, all I want is someone to cook and clean for me, and then have sex. I really don't care about anything else. This was DRASTICALLY different from what I wanted just when I was 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:58 PM
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The problem is that the illusion of love get's shattered after you're around 22. Even if you are ready for marriage at 25 or 28, it's not going to be the same. You're aware that it isn't really real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:56 PM
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That doesn't mean that they enjoy having sex with you on a primal level. The only relationships that count are the ones where the woman is initiating sex just as much as the guy (if not more).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:53 PM
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Any man who spent his early life rejected by women once becoming famous/successful will try to leverage their wealth to get pussy. The truth is that a lot of those men believed in love and that illusion was shattered by what they saw happening to the attractive guys around them. They saw women acting pure and innocent to them meanwhile fucking the other guys who they clearly saw treated them badly. Later on in life, with their illusion of love shattered, what else is there for them to do? In an …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:52 PM
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The other issue is that being SA'd as a girl is presented as being the norm. This results in at least a large minority of girls interpreting non-harassing behaviour as being SA because in their minds they are thinking 'I'm a girl therefore I'm going to be SA'd. Therefore this must be an SA'. What adds to this is that girls cannot take that they may be unattractive. So instead of interpreting the situation correctly i.e. that the guy was being nice for no other reason than he is nice, they interp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:37 PM
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They don't. Females grow out of that after their teenage years. And they are swooning over men who are below at the very most 24 where most of their peers look feminine by nature because they are younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:48 PM
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How the hell are guys supposed to learn if they are inexperienced then? They’ll just keep on getting dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:56 PM
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Sexual attraction for women is more emotional than it is physical and that's not the same for men which is fine Part of this is due to women selecting the men who are emotional out. So that the guys they are having sex with are emotionless and only care about the physical aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:14 PM
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This happened to me however the difference is that the woman nearly always assumes the guy is sexually into them meanwhile the guy almost never does. It makes a huge difference because the majority of women never have to deal with the fact that they got dumped because they were unnattractive. They can keep on moving on to the next guy in blissful ignorance. It's way harder to be rejected than to reject someone. Due to the above scenario, women almost always believe that they are the rejectee so …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:12 PM
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She’ll be nervous and performing the whole time, and leave feeling like the whole thing really wasn’t worth it. The difference is that she'll keep going back hoping things will change. If she was only 60% attracted to the guy, she would just write him off after the first bad sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:03 PM
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After drinking a few times, you are aware of how you feel when drunk i.e. your intoxicated state. People deliberatly get drunk to losen themselves up so that they are able to participate in the bevaviour that they are too self-concious to participate in during their natural state. It's not like go to a nightclub and accidently hook up. They want to hook up and they realize that drinking will help facilitate that to which they decide that they are going to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:00 PM
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Honestly a lot of women think 'good' means how much of a social influence he has even if he's completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:40 PM
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I feel like this is a cop out though. For example, if the girl really liked you, she would jump on any opportunity to have sex with you for many different reasons other than being turned on e.g. wanting commitment out of you, making you stay instead of going out with your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:38 PM
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The difference is that women have been conditioned to see sex as a transactional act. This is not true. Women by their own accord saw that they could use sex as a transactional act to get what they want e.g. you see women who lead guys on with the possibility of sex just so that they can do them a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:20 PM
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No, I'm saying that women have sex more for enjoyment compared to guys. A lot of guys have sex because they are horny and sex stops you from being horny. And I'm saying sex is more than just enjoyment because if sex was solely for enjoyment, then being cheated on wouldn't have such a big effect on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:13 PM
1

Some of the stories you hear girls talking to their friends about make things even worse. Some literally tear guys apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:10 PM
2

They only experience low quality men because that’s what they attract are attracted to. I think the above statement is more correct. All the women that are extremely vocal about toxic masculinity always go for toxic guys and are then proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:09 PM
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It just doesn't work like that for a lot of men. A lot of men have sex to stop themselves from being horny. Also, if sex was just for fun, cheating wouldn't have an emotional effect on anybody because it wouldn't be a big deal. That's not the case because it's representative of many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:02 PM
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I agree. Also, when women say 'what do you bring to the table?' it's really a loaded question because it implies that they think that you have nothing to offer them and they are asking you to convince them otherwise. If they were attracted to you looks wise, they would first assume you have something of value to give them which just leads to so much frustration if you are extremely competent but physically unattractive. Many times you'll see women selecting guys who can't even screw in a lightbu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:58 PM
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The thing about your hierarchy on social media, is that it's largely determined by how low in trait neuroticism you are. On top of that, since your entire history is on there, it's impossible to move up if you were initially not a 'cool' teenager/adolescent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:59 PM
1

This is what women say when as a coping mechanism when they can't take that they are committed to a 'neutered, apathetic, lifeless man'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:57 PM
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It has nothing to do with how boring he actually is but moreso on what the woman is projecting onto him. Women aren't good at objectively rating men. If they were, pre-selection wouldn't be such a huge selection mechanism employed by women. When a girl sees a guy around another girl, he's suddenly interesting. In reality, women rely on how dominant a man is around other men which is largely determined by how other men view him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:56 PM
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Because it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:05 AM
1

Women are also the biggest body shamers of men which I think is more important. Women body shaming other women often comes from insecurity meanwhile them body shaming other men is them deliberately trying to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:04 AM
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It only takes 1 man hitting on 100 women to make it seem like it's 100 men hitting on 1 woman each.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:03 AM
3

Nice guys are really just a scapegoat women use to label anyone they deem to be unattractive. You could argue that men buying women a drink at a bar is the pinnacle of nice guy behaviour i.e. buying something for her and expecting sex in return. However if the guy is attractive and successful at obtaining sex from her, no-one thinks of him as being a 'nice guy' meanwhile only the unattractive guy who is rejected is labelled in that manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:59 AM
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If you’re nervous, you’re less likely to enjoy yourself or be aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:00 PM
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Some of these guys don’t know how to stand up for themselves and might perceive a dude who’s assertive or teases women to be an asshole I don't think this is the case. There are certain men who always start fights with random men on night outs and they always manage to take someone back or they have a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 05:55 PM
2

This doesn't take into account that you could be nervous with the guy compared to being on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 05:46 PM
0

This is completely different. The equivalent is a girl you aren't attracted to hitting on you. And even at that, most guys don't lead girls like that on. For some reason women do that to men they don't find attractive and the only question to ask is why it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:15 AM
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I think weak men do that. Most men come to the conclusion that it's easier to just improve yourself slightly to improve your social position compared to being ostracized completely from society for advocating for men to have equal rights to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:11 AM
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Women that have their shit together can afford to be extremely selective because they provide for themselves. It's not like they were settling before. They were still dating the men they wanted to previously it's just bar has completely shifted. It's more like they have to be extremely selective nowadays (at the cost of their own happiness) because the social losses of dating a man that isn't up to the standards of her peer group will result in her social status being demoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:07 PM
2

Where does he find these girls though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:06 PM
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In groups maybe but as soon as you're one on one with one of the girls in the group you'll get treated completely differently compared to one of her attractive friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:19 AM
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That's why it's imperative for guys who aren't above average in looks to focus on their career. That way you can prioritise something (that she can't demean) more than your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:17 AM
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This is not how it used to work though. A woman and a guy would be in close proximity to each other and they would eventually fall for each other. For some reason that changed to dating being essentially applying for a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:14 AM
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The other trouble is, even if they have some experience with women, the woman is almost always never head over heels for them. This leads to them making one mistake and the woman just leaving them often abruptly and without explanation. Then sometimes you see her go back to her ex who she literally lets him off for every mistake he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:12 AM
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Most sexual assaults are conducted by already sexually active men by a large margin. I think that's a good demonstration of the halo effect at play; unattractive men get no sex yet they get blamed for all the sexual assaults of the men that women select.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:03 AM
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The problem is that even if she isn't in the mood for sex with a guy she deems 'attractive', she'll still have sex with him because she's afraid of losing him. Her not being in the mood for sex is pretty much a sign that you're only in the picture because she couldn't find the guy she actually wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:04 PM
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And most men in PPD are sex-minded, not relationship-minded. I don't think this is true. I think it's mostly men who were relationship minded until they found out that the women in their vicinity didn't care about that and just wanted to have sex with the most attractive men (in their eyes) they could find. And then to add insult to injury, they targeted the aforementioned men for all the bad traits they found in the men they impulsively chose, meanwhile still sleeping with the guys who were cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:57 PM
1

What about a guy who is inexperienced (some experience but very little) due to being hurt by a previous relationship causing him to withdraw?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:06 PM
0

I feel like all that matters is her perception on how any girls you've slept with. For example, if she first thought that you had a high N-count and then you told her it was low, she would just think that 'he could have had more but he rejected those girls'. Meanwhile, if she thinks your N-count is low but you tell her that it's high, she'll just rationalize it to herself by saying 'he's just lying to make himself seem like he's irresistible to girls'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:03 PM
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It's a good thing that you can recognise the reasons behind their behaviour. A lot of women are repulsed by guys with mommy issues because they assume the guy's neediness comes from lack of ambition, lack of hobbies, lack of backbone etc. However, these guys are usually fine around anyone else except their partner when suddenly all their issues manifest towards their romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:18 PM
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Honestly, I think the times have changed so much in the past 4 or so years. It's become way harder to get your foot through the door which just leads to women choosing the most sexually experienced men and the inexperienced men staying inexperienced even if they are attractive by the same amount. The only way to avoid this is to date in a friendship circle because people are more understanding that way. Also, they are less likely to be a dick to you because if they are, everyone will find out an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:49 AM
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If you’re not the guy she wants to sleep with right away, you’re not the guy. You have to be careful thought because a lot of women have sex on the first date because that's what they feel is expected of them if they want to continue the relationship and not necessarily because they are so attracted to you that they want you right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:42 PM
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The thing is, it should be obvious to both of you if it's a date or not without asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:40 PM
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That's not love though. If that were the case, love would just mean good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:38 PM
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The thing is, how are you going to have that high chemistry if you aren't sexually experienced? Women are just going to keep dumping you which will lead to you never learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:35 PM
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Probably all my problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:45 AM
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Newsflash, most women don't like simps. We respect men who understand that there's more to life than fucking. Simping behaviour isn't caused by sex in the slightest. It's caused by loving the person and wanting to do everything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:48 AM
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You are even if you don't believe in god because the previous generations of society that were non-secular obviously have an impact on everything you perceive today even if you don't currently believe in god. There wouldn't be such a talk about casual sex if that weren't the case; people are influenced in the respect that 'no sex before marriage' is a Christian value and they are arguing that they disagree with it. That means they are influenced by it other wise they wouldn't be having the discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 12:45 AM
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This is the truth. Also, people forget that the only relationships that count in this comparison are the ones where the woman is initiating sex equally or more often than the guy. If you have trouble getting into a relationship, improving your outer appearance will at most get yourself into a sexless relationship. I would also add that the personality traits women find attractive in men are also the immutable ones and it's mainly just their attachment style e.g. how many girls automatically dism…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 01:05 AM
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Because confidence can easily be faked and is dependent on how the person feels about his work. Also, the more competent you are, the less confident you usually feel because you are aware of the limitations of your current work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:00 PM
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That's not what I said at all. The equivelant is hiring an incompetant guy who overexagerated his acomplishments compared to an slightly insecure man who is extremelly competent whose insecrurity comes from the fact that he's aware of how big the field is and how much more he has to learn, not some blind arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:24 PM
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They don't choose high value men, they choose men who they deem to be HVM. There's a big difference. If they were able to accurately identify a HVM, most men would be more accepting of it. It's just when they use false indicators such as confidence etc. which can easily be faked to judge how high value someone is, without judging the actuality of what the guy has produced. Wouldn't you be pissed off if the guy who got the job was the one who lied about everything on his CV?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:07 PM
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Unfortunately this could have been avoided if you chose a better man. It makes me wonder why you're actually on purple pill debate. Sounds like you're trying to rationalize your poor choice in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:38 PM
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only ever let a woman benefit from it if she fucks you. This would be true if women didn't have many sexual partners however if she's fucked 20 guys before you, she's easily going to move on to the next guy without feeling anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:24 AM
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I agree if it was a one off case, but this has just turned into how the majority of women behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:18 AM
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I know. Women really need to stop actively rewarding bad behaviour in guys and then complaining when that bad behaviour directly affects them. Even worse, they blame the guys who get no sex for everything meanwhile still sleeping with the perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:11 AM
2

You’re giving him head daily more than most guys will ever get in a week and you’re wondering why he’s not changing his behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:46 PM
1

But you still have sex with him and give him head. How often do you give him head?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:30 PM
1

But she still has sex with him. If he treated her nicely, the sex would stop and she would become disgusted by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:28 PM
2

Let me tell you that it 100% depends on the person. For me, when I'm attracted to someone, they turn into my ideal person because before I met them, I didn't know someone like that even existed. However, maybe that's different as I get older since I haven't had a 'crush' on literally any girl in what feels like forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:13 PM
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Women are attracted to men who take them for granted. I can assure you, that if he started treating you anything other than that, your subconcious mind would start thinking you're better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:08 PM
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If she's talking about her relationship to you, I don't think she's interested. Whenever anything happened between a girl and me, they never mentioned any other guy they had been previously romantically entangled with or any guy they they were attracted to in passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:05 PM
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I don't think there is. A lot of women say 'I don't know if I'm bi because I've never been with a woman before'. For most straight guys, there's no question that they are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:00 PM
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If it's a him issue, stop preying on guys like that. If you take some responsibility for your actions you can solve a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 02:49 AM
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For the great majority of us, we would be satisfied with just one real, lasting success with one woman who truly valued and appreciated us. The trouble with the modern female sexual behaviour is that it's completely shattered the existence of this sentiment because most guys who wanted that won't fall in love with a girl who's participated in casual sex for a select group of chads. ​ If you are going to sneer at us as "bitter, entitled incels" for wanting that, and being sad/angry/frustrated tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 01:41 AM
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Since some women take the loss of erection very personally Most college aged women can't take it personally. Instead, they accuse the guy of being gay and tell all their friends that story so they don't have to face the fact that they themselves might not be as attractive as they thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:13 AM
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I agree. It's such a short period of time but you really change a lot mentally during those years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 03:19 AM
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"Old"-looking (anyone 25-30+ as I am 21) Wish I was 21 again thinking even 23 was old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 01:05 AM
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The difference is, women can easily have sex with an inexperienced man but they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:59 PM
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I don't think it matters because if everyone you know is in a dead bedroom, you tend to care less. It's kind of like if you dated an asexual girl that doesn't want to have sex with you, you can easily convince yourself that it's not because of you, but if you date a girl that's known to be easy and even she rejects you, it's detrimental to your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:11 PM
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This is why guys who missed out or held out on relationships in high school get left behind forever. They hook up for the first time with a girl and due to their inexperience, they don't know what to do and they never get called back. This repeats itself with several women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:06 PM
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girls would beg me for his Instagram after. Why couldn't they just look him up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:25 AM
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But the stereotype of a chad isn't synonymous with an attractive man. It's a specific subset of those men that form the chad stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:24 AM
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It depends on if she actually didn't want the casual sex, or if it was because she couldn't get casual sex from the guys she wanted. The problem with the latter is that once she starts having sex with you, she's going to have an increased confidence and try and monkey-branch to a guy she deems to be better. With the former, she's probably a safe bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:50 PM
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Yes. I was making a comment about the quote you posted on the reason why unattractive women don't want to put the boundary of monogamy on their current relationship. The reason being that they are waiting for the guy they want while stringing along the guy they aren't that into.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:27 AM
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Yes, less attractive women are settling for non-exclusive sex-only relationships because that’s all they can get... No, the men they date (who they deem to be settling for) are the ones that push for monogamy. ​ ...because men are not offering them exclusivity and emotional intimacy to the same extent that they offer it to more attractive women (ie, they are being targeted for P&D more frequently). They do, these men genuinely feel that they are in love and that their partner feels the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:19 AM
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were less likely to classify their relationships as only having sex, and more likely to classify their relationships as exclusive. This is partly due to less attractive women 'settling' for guys they don't really want and waiting out for the guy of their choice to eventually come along in the future. They essentially view their current partner as a stepping stone for their future partner hence they don't want to but a boundary on their current relationship so that they get an easy out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:21 AM
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I think this is partially to do with less attractive women interpreting a man just talking to them as a sexual advance. Most women have been taught that they will have guys pressuring them for sex all the time; that doesn't happen to the unattractive girl so when a guy eventually is just chatting with her, her first instinct is 'this is the kind of sexual advance everyone warned me about'. It's the same with guys who haven't had a lot of experience. They think a woman being friendly with them eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:14 AM
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This is the truth. The way relationships form nowadays is to first have sex then feelings. If you don't have good sex the first time (which if you're a guy with little experience, is going to be a given), then you won't get called back and you'll never learn for essentially the rest of your life because you'll keep on getting dumped after the first time with every woman you date. I wish it was different but after a certain age, it becomes incredibly difficult for guys to get past a lack of exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 04:36 AM
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I don't think any situation I've personally seen has made me sympathetic to the opposite sexes (F) dating struggles. This will probably get downvoted but it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 04:30 AM
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It may be because they haven't analysed the situation fully i.e. ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 04:22 AM
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I don't think most men care about a random girl rejecting them. It's moreso being betrayed by someone you know who actively decieved you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 04:19 AM
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Not really. If you haven't got visibly jealous before, she would probably send a screenshot of some funny conversations she had because she hasn't even thought of the other guy as being anything more than a friend. The moment she feels she has to hide it, it means she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 01:23 AM
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Why can't you just have better sex then? It's such a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:50 PM
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The thing is, if the girl really liked you, she wouldn't think about talking to any other guys out of fear that she would lose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:48 PM
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It's actually worse because girls actively lie that being a virgin doesn't matter, that size doesn't matter etc. yet they use it as an insult at the same time.
/r/MGTOW15/02/21 11:59 AM
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have casual sex. It’s not manipulation, it’s just ONSs. All ONSs are manipulation. Whether that's through increased confidence due to alcohol at a bar, curating your social media to seem more social/attractive, or some other tactic. It's all manipulation. ​ I would be really sad to learn that a partner was ‘acting’ and not just being himself. The warning signs were there all along in most cases. Sadly, by the time most people learn about the 'red flags', they are a lot older and simply don't car…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:50 PM
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Sorry but most women select through social media nowadays. It's common knowledge that most people lie on there, otherwise we wouldn't be having the conversation that most people are being fake on there. Women do not notice guys who are the undercover superhero. They automatically assume he has nothing to offer, hence why college students without social media do terrible socially. Women do not care who you actually are, they just care how you appear to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 08:10 PM
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The sad part is that women still ask for sympathy from their friends when they are the one who initiated the break-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:48 AM
0

But men have to settle because there aren't really any quality women nowadays or they are already paired off. Ideally they would want a woman they like but that's almost impossible nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:04 PM
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No, I’m not saying that all. Feminists are essentially saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 03:21 PM
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Before 22, the man. After 22 the woman by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:35 PM
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It's just that women have higher chances to get terrible sex than men do. The thing is, I think that by default women think that the guy is enjoying having sex with them. A lot of men try and protect their partners feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:31 PM
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You can like the idea of something but not like the actuality of it. I'm not saying women feel that way towards sex however. But that argument is irrelevant because what it really boils down to is that women don't want to be told they can't experience the same things men experience. Just look at the feminist narrative; it doesn't encourage women to be their own gender, instead it tells women that they are just as good as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:27 PM
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The reason they publish stuff like this is to get publicity (it worked because someones posting it on here). The more worrying part is the people who liked or responded via the laughing emoji on the actual facebook post.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 01:25 AM
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Some women already judge for themselves and it's refreshing to see when it happens. The main problem is that low to medium intelligent people think the guy that is at the top is the guy who's mastered a standardized procedure. Meanwhile, the guy who is able to invent the procedure that became standardized is actually way more superior. The problem is, that many of those men with those capabilities end up at the bottom. Just remember, Einstein was at the bottom of the hierarchy in his early 20s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:56 AM
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but they dont brag about sex and they are quite good in keeping up with a clean image. A large part of that is because of college culture. Women engage in gossip with their housemates and they discuss relationships and sex through and through way more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:08 AM
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Actual ability. Confidence shouldn't even be a factor because it's so easily faked. Also, the more competent you are, the less confident you can be because you have a fuller understanding of how wide the particular field is and how little you know. Secondly, women should judge for themselves the competence of a man. The problem is in certain fields e.g. the arts, a man who can draw a flower is labelled as creative (which isn't actually creative at all by definition) meanwhile those who are actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:00 AM
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A simp. You can tell by what he's wearing; he's clearly dressing in a way that is said to be stylish in magazines etc. but it actually isn't. Also, you can tell by the smile. It's a smile a man gives when a woman is stroking his ego but he can't tell that they're just acting. An actual 'man' wouldn't put a fake smile just around women. He would act exactly the same around men and women.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 01:27 AM
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None. Everything I do is an attempt to further define myself the way I want to be defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 09:41 PM
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I’m very fortunate that my boyfriend ticks all my boxes I doubt he does. It's just he's tricked you through his social media. Just wait till you break up and you go 'he's not who I thought he was' when he actually was never like that all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:37 PM
1

Come to think of it, it's weird how women never get black pilled. You never hear a woman say, 'the best looking woman gets the best looking man'. They all think that they deserve the best looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:24 PM
0

You must be in the minority of men who are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:41 PM
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I imagine this makes the most sense. However, living together is probably beneficial if you have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:58 PM
1

You can be smart and still like regular things; never trust a guy who thinks he's too good for fast food (unless he's looking out for his health).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:54 AM
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They absolutely select on verbal/ social intelligence. You can have the highest social intelligence but still be awkward because you're so neurotic so you're perceived as not being socially intelligent. However, a socially intelligent person will pick up on the fact that you're just nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:53 AM
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High level thinking subjects--that's what stimulates intelligent people. Most people are extremely curious about big questions. Also, being smart doesn't mean that your interests are limited to 'high brow topics'. You can still like fast food and be smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:48 AM
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Most guys who study STEM aren't actually smart at all. A lot of them just follow a standardized procedure and feel good about themselves because they are STEM students. As a stem student, the actual smart ones (who could think creatively, find new solutions and had an aesthetic vision) were exceptionally rare; most felt alienated completely from their peers because they weren't obsessed with Star Wars etc. Also, they were studying it because it was something that their mind was perfectly atuned …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:46 AM
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I can't be only me who doesn't think like this? When I like a girl, she becomes my ideal person. If the girl is unique, has her own interests and personality, then that is possible because she cannot be compared directly to other girls. The only situation I can think where yours is applicable is if you're actively looking for partners judging by a list of criteria. For example, if you want a millionaire, then yes, settling for someone who earns less than that is a compromise but I doubt anyone a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 12:35 AM
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Well there's no real point because especially for the younger demographic, your social media identity is more important than real life. It's more complicated than that because you can't define real life without social media because so many opportunities if not all social opportunities come from it. Women will still select the guy who has the best social media presentation even she knows it's false. It's kind of how people trust news sources more if they are posted online because there's a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 03:01 PM
1

I'm just being realistic, otherwise the whole 'you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about" meme wouldn't have been so popular. Mixed friendship groups are different. I do however miss talking one-on-one to my female housemates in the past but that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:35 PM
2

Out of interest what stage of your life are you at? I can't imagine any man hanging out with a woman past his very early 20s unless they are both interested in each other. As a guy, the only guys I see hanging one on one with girls as friends have either a) the woman taking advantage of them and they not realising it or b) the guy feeling a motherly bond with her (mommy issues). The only exception is being work colleagues and getting lunch together or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:27 PM
1

Plus, for women, posting on social media gives them a wider audience than meeting up with friends. Most women just go to events so that they can post photos.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:54 AM
1

Now it's the enablers that bother me, both female and male feminists, Tradcons, Tradthots and Chameleons. The people that bother me the most are the normies who accuse red-pilled people for not understanding.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:47 AM
3

In college, I tongue kissed a few girls and only one of them did I want to have sex with. The others I realised that I just wanted their affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:50 AM
2

Never compliment your partner because you feel like she's down about something about herself. It'll get to her head and she'll start believing she's a 10 and leave you.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 12:09 AM
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So these women go "hey you dummy men, you suck for not being a woman and naturally understanding a women's perspective. Who hurt you?" On top of that, they think they are an expert on men more than actual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:06 AM
2

​ This becomes null because not only "hot" guys are in relationships. There are many average men even slightly below average, who in relationships This statistic doesn't matter. The only statistic that matters is how many of those relationships is the woman initiating sex as much or more than the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:04 AM
1

with someone you don’t even want to makeout with Makeing out has nothing really to do with sexual attraction and more to do with wanting to show the other person affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:01 AM
2

I mean Beauty and the Beast is a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:59 PM
10

I don't fully understand but here are some quotes ​ Y DNA diversity reduced by 17x compared to Mt-DNA. This doesn't mean that women had 17 women for every man; but that men formed clans based on patrilineal descent, so if you share ancestor with someone on your paternal lineage (i.e. they have the same Y-DNA as you), they would be part of your tribe. These clans would compete with each other and take the women. Over time the diversity of Y-DNA reduced as more and more clans where killed or faile…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:59 PM
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This is actually a misinterpretation of the correct fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:51 PM
44

Wtaf. I don't know how I would be able to deal with that.
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 11:35 PM
0

It's different because women can lose attraction so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:05 PM
9

Yeah exactly. Most women who are afraid that they will get a retaliation from a guy that they've clearly used for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:30 PM
1

You've misinterpreted what i've said completely. ​ they don't sound sensible or able to read a room if they have to knock down or rely on others as tools. If you're trying to get a task done, and suddenly the least competent person starts ordering everyone around, everyones going to put them in their place. Meanwhile they will listen to the most competent person. Of course this is in an ideal world. The only exception is when the person perceived to be the least competent is actually more compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:23 AM
3

Even if the dynamics are different, a guy who did better in high school is going to feel more confident going into college where he will be rewarded for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:52 AM
8

The way it usually works is, the more competent you are, the more confident you feel which means that you carry yourself better. The trouble is that it requires other people to be an accurate measure of your competence. If you are on the far end of the spectrum of being intelligent (I'm talking about being actually smart and not just book smart), you're going to have a tough time. Also, the way it used to work was that your male peers around you used to judge your competence level and they would…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:49 AM
1

Thos boundaries and self respect seem to disappear during the honeymoon period for some reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:30 PM
0

women should be able to emulate what they saw in porn. Women will do that for some guys. It's only natural for men to only settle for women that will do that for them otherwise she clearly doesn't like him and is holding out for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:23 AM
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because it can warp men's (and women's) perception of what normal sex Surely that just means the standards for what normal sex are changing? It's coming from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:22 AM
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You might look more elegant/polished, but purely sexually things are a different story. Imagine if you were fully naked with no makeup and your hair worn very simply. Would you say that you still think that you're more physically attractive? I can say that if a woman is more confident, it can make her way more sexually attractive but if the younger version had the same confidence, she would probably still be more sexually attractive. The only exception is a woman that has become thicker with age…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 09:36 PM
1

I think that it's easier to get status when you're younger compared to that when you're older. All you have to do when you're a young adult is get into a good college and you're most likely going to be doing better than your 25-30 year old peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 09:29 PM
3

Getting married doesn’t mean that the girl is actually attracted to you sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:25 PM
4

The only stat that matters is if the woman is initiating sex as much as the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:34 PM
1

That's why in human societies, social hierarchy has been intrinsically related to sexual priority for reproduction. Therefore, any tactics that divert from the "norm" are considered aberrations. Such as rape or paternity fraud I mean most female mate selection are aberrations now. The traditional social hierarchy is irrelevant in a lot of cases; males bypass that through OLD and social media where through the former, their social standing isn't taken into account (since only pictures are shown) …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:22 PM
0

Leo only 'wins' because he has his own hamster that outpaces when the women he dates would leave him. Leo is an alpha because he clearly cares about acting an insane amount and noone can hamper his drive. He also seems intelligent enough to be successful in a different game if acting didn't work out. Brad Pitt would essentially be nothing if he didn't get lucky and that obviously will show in his close personal life. He probably gets talked over in serious conversations etc.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 10:15 AM
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What I've noticed is that if you maintain the correct boundaries from the start, the girl won't even ask you for help in the first place. Meanwhile if you suddenly withdraw help because you realise the girl is using you, she'll back stab you and talk behind you back negatively.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 09:49 AM
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Is he really an alpha though. Behind closed doors he essentially is the same as an washed up unemployed loser. It's only because of his clout that weak minded people treat him well outside of the home.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 08:54 AM
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Any girl that posts casually about anything sexual on twitter is not worth it and it's one of the biggest red flags. Also any girl that goes on political twitter rants is also most likely going to ruin your life.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 08:49 AM
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I don't think that's the case. Usually, it's a guy who is conventionally unattractive and the only reason she was attracted to him was his fame. Then when she loses interest and finds out that it wasn't seen as being 'cool' to be with him, she says that he abused his fame and power.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 08:46 AM
2

The thing is though that if chad acted like this he would also be friendzoned.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 08:41 AM
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The thing is, it's also not your fault that you got deceived. If my guy friends asked for my help on homework, we would all chip in and also have fun socializing together. I think alot of us just naturally assumed women had the same motives but they would act fake nice to you and then completely change after the deadline.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 08:33 AM
3

I think the world has just changed so much in recent years. I mean the world even just pre-2017 was completely different where there were still social taboos in place that limited all the behaviour you openly see nowadays (and behaviour that's even encouraged). Most guys I knew wanted a relationship but now they can't even imagine what a relationship would even entail.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre05/01/21 05:07 PM
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That's true. It definitely goes both ways. But it seems like even the friends of the girls don't even care if she's getting abused if the guy is 'attractive' enough. Also, every abusive man seems to have atleast a few men who constantly validate them in the same vein to how narcissists are always accompanied by enablers. Also, men get accused of only calling out an abusive man who is dating a girl of being jealous that she didn't pick him instead. There isn't really much a guy can do. The best o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:36 PM
1

What about if a woman calls you sweet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:22 PM
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In the first example, women often go for the guy despite everyone telling them that the guy is abusive. Meanwhile in the 2nd example, it's usually caused by a woman that tricked everyone into thinking that she was sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:18 PM
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Also, what women say and what they actually go for are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:16 PM
2

An insecure guy might be afraid of rejection That's all incels are. Insecure guys who are afraid of rejection. Why label them as rapists, ugly, having a bad personality and being socially inept? Women clearly have ulterior motives in forming the imaginary target of an incel that's not based on reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:42 AM
2

Most rapes are conducted by already sexually active men. That means women actively select actual rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:42 AM
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I wouldn't call myself an incel, because I don't go around being desperate as hell begging for sex and being an asshole No incels actually do that. It's just a cope unattractive women use by forming an imaginary group of unattractive men, labelling them with the most undesirable characteristics so that they can say 'ha look at how sad incels are' so they don't have to face the fact that they are unattractive themselves and that their match is actually the men they shame online.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:16 AM
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It just shows how heavily women’s morality depends on looks. And the fact that they blame the guys who are already feeling down about life for the crimes of the guys they specifically sexually selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:32 AM
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It's everyones problem when you raise the confidence and validate the behaviour of a dishonourable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:35 AM
1

but taking legal action and regulating what a good partner is goes way too far. Obviously legal action is to far... However not being friends with a girl who's proud she slept with a terrible man was just regular behaviour until a couple of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:31 AM
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It's not like this shit actually has a real impact on the world It does. A lot more than you think. Also, it's not my way of regulating sex. This is how sex is usually regulated. That's why noone complains that Obama has a loving wife meanwhile they complain when a clearly abusive person gets a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:20 AM
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Should we start slapping people on the wrist every time they sleep with someone we don't like It's not a question of 'someone we don't like': it's a question of promoting someone who is clearly a terrible person. I don't see how anyone could make the rationalization that sleeping with an abusive person is not exactly good for anyone. Try bringing home an abusive guy to your friend group and see how they react; if they are your actual friends they aren't going to let it slide. If they try to slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:17 AM
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It's not about keeping the sexual market equal. It's about not rewarding bad men just because they are 'good looking'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:14 PM
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The biggest redpill is when you find out how women blame incels when studies have shown that it's the already sexually active men who conduct most of the rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:13 PM
0

It's everyones business because you're actively making that guy more confident which affects all men especially if they work together. So many times you see the least competent man who is objectively the best looking getting encouraged by women and completely ruining the actual hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:11 PM
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It's not a need in that respect either. It's similar to how you would accept $50 dollars an hour for a particular job and be happy, but as soon as you find out your peer is getting paid $70 for the same work, you're going to become resentful and angry. When you're married, lack of sex is a constant reminder that you're unattractive. If you're on your own away from that said person, your emotions will become normalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:41 PM
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Most individuals will experience sex with willing & caring partners. Only a very very small subset of the population will not. This is just not true. Hardly any men experience this. Most women settle with the best guy they can get; that by definition means that if they had the choice they would be with a man they perceive to be better. This is in contrast to how males feel. Once they fall in love, they don't really want to be with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:39 PM
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Women have never been good at selecting men. Throughout history they relied on how other men treated him as an indicator of his relative status. This however has completely changed in modernity because men can garner status individually through social media and OLD platforms; essentially the men who have the least guilty conscious about lying are now being rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:36 PM
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Generally, the only women that feel that way are the ones that have clearly led a guy on and they know that they've crossed a boundary. The safest thing to do is to just not interact with a guy you think is going to be potentially violent beyond standard pleasantries, but a lot of women ask the guy for favours and try and use him for support and when the guy asks for a single favour, she just discards him. It also feels like a betrayal because the guy thought that they were friends but he finds …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:01 AM
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I don't think so. Sexual arousal means sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:41 AM
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Being beautiful and sexually attractive are two different things. Yes, there is some overlap but only the latter is required for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:27 AM
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Men's standards for beauty are high (there aren't many elegant/beautiful women) however their threshold for being sexually attractive is low. They aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:07 AM
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Not really. Yes, men will be sexually attracted to more women compared to the other way round, but that's different to being considered beautiful. Relatively few women reach that threshold. On top of that, not as many beautiful women are as sexually attractive compared to non-elegant women (big bum and big breasts). The actual percentage of beautiful women that are also sexually attractive is actually extremely small. And then on top of that, you have to try and communicate that through your ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:06 AM
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I think a lot of women do. You hear the saying that women are afraid to compliment men because they're afraid that they don't want to send out the wrong message. That in itself implies that those women think that the other guy is probably going to be attracted to them if she initiates interest. You also see this when women explicitly says or hints that a guy is in the friendzone when the guy thought that they were just friends all along (I'm talking specifically about college and before because …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:59 AM
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As a guy, MGTOW helped me see the truth. However PurplePillDebate completely ruined me. I do not recommend that place at all.
/r/MGTOW27/12/20 06:18 AM
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Intelligence and competence has nothing to do with women’s choices anymore. In the past, an incompetent man would be treated worse by his peers reducing his social value which would negatively affect his chances of mating with a female. Nowadays, none of that matters because women aren’t getting that information from isolated social media/OLD accounts. They simply just go by looks only.
/r/MGTOW27/12/20 06:15 AM
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It's because women largely rely on how other men treat a particular male as an indicator of his relative status. That simply doesn't exist anymore. Women largely use other mechanisms such as social media to size up their partners. Also, a violent asshole can easily trick women now; in the past he wouldn't have been a part of any male group so either the female would have to risk mating with him and being heavily stigmatized by her peers, or chose the guy who's actually competent and his status b…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 01:37 AM
1

Women are clueless to this point. They simply aren't attracted to their looksmatch. When a 5/10 woman gets rejected by 9/10 guy her brain never takes this into account. "See?", they instead conclude, "Guys don't like it when women approach, that's the reason I was rejected". They never connect the dots that she wasn't in his league in the first place. "But on Tinder, I get guys like this swiping right on me all the time?!?" This also happens when a guy she's interested in isn't interested in her…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:13 AM
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It's actually interesting. Women say that they're afraid to be nice to a guy just incase he interprets it as her flirting but in reality it's just that the girl has an inflated ego and thinks every guy wants her.
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 02:38 AM
2

This is the truth.
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 02:36 AM
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If you're over 25 and still 'friends' with any girls where you solely just have 1 on 1 interactions with them, you need a wake up call. It's different if they're one of your room mates and you watch tv together after work, but if you're doing anything for a girl that you're not doing for a guy, you need to discipline yourself not to. You'll only get used in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:53 AM
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I looked my age however. I think it was because a girl hurt me and I started to become my true self. They wouldn't baby me. They would just treat me more delicately but then again, even some guys would.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 06:06 PM
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I miss how I was treated around 21/22. I remember some girls wanting to look after me. That went very quickly as I got older and now I kind of don't know how to interact around anyone because I was so used to that feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 03:41 AM
2

It's better to be single in the same way that if you're getting ignored and left out by your friends, it's best to drop them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:21 PM
1

I can assure you, that all my insecurities are because of women's shit tests. At the start of every 'relationship', I started off perfectly happy with myself. It was only after the 'shit tests' (I didn't know about that term back then because I was so naive) did I become insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:13 AM
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If she is clearly romantically interested in you and you're indifferent, the problem comes that when you do become interested in her, she gets bored because the chase is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:09 AM
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In general alot of women seem kinda lonely in a big city That has nothing to do with men. It's more-so to do with the fact that many people move to the city after college to start their careers but find out that making friends from scratch, especially at that age is near impossible. Friendships take time and are built from common experiences. And then on top of that, you're living in a place where so much socialising is going on making your FOMO way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:27 PM
2

Isn't the safest option to not let your partner record you having sex and to not send him any nudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:51 PM
1

Yes, because your idea of what an incel is is incorrect. Therefore you can still be an incel yet disagree with the wide-scale consensus of what an incel is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:49 PM
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None. But most do it anyway because they don't really have any interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:48 PM
1

Didn't he have sex with her in a furniture shop?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:46 PM
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It's very convenient for you to label anyone you disagree with as being an incel. It also works in your favour since by distancing yourself away from that group, you are essentially trying to signal to others that you aren't an incel. It's not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:45 PM
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Women are really bad at judging who's a chad or not. Seriously, it's well known that women rely on how other men treat him as a judge of his status. The problem is in todays culture, the guy directly messages the girl and without any external data, she just assumes he's a chad because he deliberately posts photos with his friends to try and trick women into thinking he's social.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:26 AM
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For women its like social media, a huge ego boost but deep down they know its fake I get this but it doesn't matter because they'll still go after the guy who appears to be the best on social media even if he's being fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:21 AM
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I think if a man starts using his emotions as an excuse for not doing something he should be doing. That's when I think women lose respect for him. For example, if he avoids a party because he's feeling socially anxious. Or if he avoids standing up for himself because he's scared of the consequences. It's so arbitrary though because people vary in how high they are in trait neuroticism genetically. That means men who naturally don't worry as much get rewarded meanwhile those who worry get punish…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:51 PM
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As a guy, hipsters annoy me way more than any other type because they have the attitude that they are too good for mainstream trends but they still adopt the exact same trends as their hipster peers. Plus they aren't that way because they are sensitive; they just use that as a ploy to attract women or because they can't compete with other men. A man who is actually unique, intelligent and follows what he truly likes is something that is actually cool, unlike those hipsters (who aren't cool in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:45 PM
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fashion sense Women don't actually care about this. They actively go for the guy who has the same haircut and the same skinny fit jeans even if it doesn't suit them. It's rare to find a man who actually dresses for their body type and well and they are usually friendzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:40 PM
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getting into a relationship(constant access to sex) It's never as simple as that especially if you're going into your first relationship at 20. It's so easy for a woman to lose interest in you especially if you're inexperienced and they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:34 PM
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If women's selection mechanism in todays culture (OLD, social media etc.) was an accurate reflection of the mate value of their partner, then there would be no reason for so much hatred from women towards men. Look at how many women hate the men they choose on twitter, reddit etc. It should be self-evident that you can be single but be a man of high competence, high intelligence etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:23 PM
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And OLD only allows women to be more picky Men don't care if women are more picky per se: in the same vein to having a job, most men will gladly accept that they didn't get a promotion if they didn't put the work in. However they will get angry if a person who put less work in than them got the promotion just because he's drinking buddies with the boss. Women using online platforms as their primary source for judging men has allowed those men who give the impression of having those traits to suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:37 PM
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I don’t think this is the problem. It’s that their standards aren’t consistent. Also for a lot of women, most attraction is built up online for them initially. You can be more intelligent, more competent etc. than your peers but she won’t even care because it’s not integrated online. If you attend a college house party it’s the complete opposite but that really is the only place where women actually treat you accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:56 PM
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Some people at middle age are bitter and jaded from failed relationships and have just given up on them all together. Try way younger than that nowadays. At 23 most women are completely ruined by men and guys are completely ruined by women at around the same age too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:47 AM
2

Perhaps but meeting someone when you're 21 is completely different to just meeting someone at 25 or so. You're just not going to have the same sort of bond if you meet someone too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:44 AM
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I agree. If you look on the MGTOW subreddit, a lot of the posts are actually just screenshots of women's posts on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:20 AM
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Also, just the way things work nowadays is that women vet you out on social media and if they think you're interesting to them (read you can provide them with social opportunities etc) then they will feel 100% more comfortable with you. Meeting people in todays culture without any mutual acquaintances is nigh on impossible. I honestly think mutual friends is the only way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:11 AM
2

They say this but their boyfriend/FWB is the complete opposite. Don't fall for this. It will ruin your life.
/r/MGTOW27/11/20 01:29 PM
2

There's not checkpoint for posting a 'living my best life' captioned instagram post.
/r/MGTOW27/11/20 01:25 PM
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There are some girls who aren't and they only feel comfortable in a traditional relationship. In the west however, I don't think I've seen a single example except if they are a European immigrant. Even then it's rare.
/r/MGTOW27/11/20 01:23 PM
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That women had the ability to actually select the most intelligent and competent man. Too many times they just think the loudest person is more intelligent or the most closed-minded person is the most dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 03:50 PM
3

Also most rape is conducted by already sexually active men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:00 AM
0

I got dumped after losing my virginity. The fact that a better woman may come along is irrelevant. I’m already to damaged from the experience to ever have sex again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:51 AM
1

I’m saying that they want emotional affection from a girl in the form of cuddling which overrides their sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:46 AM
1

I know it's a nice idea, but in actuality it's way more complex. Her feelings will completely go and she'll just not want to have sex with you because the first time was awful and she doesn't want to teach you. Most love nowadays is just women getting hooked on the hormones released during sex. If you can't do that on the first time, it's game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:38 AM
2

I would argue that you are emotionally healthy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:32 AM
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If a person waits until being in love to have sex it's even better Do not do this if you're a guy. The first woman you date will ditch you after you lose your virginity and it will keep repeating itself over and over again with every woman you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:30 AM
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If you're in a relationship with someone, you're going to have sex. Honestly, I don't even think this is true. So many men are so damaged nowadays that the idea of just cuddling with a woman is way more intense than the desire to have sex. To actually have sex involves you to actually be extremely emotionally and mentally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:29 AM
1

This is an underrated comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:26 AM
1

There are also other mechanisms at play other than the desire to have sex just for sex's sake. For example, most people lose their virginity because they are scared that they are the only ones not doing it or that they will die a virgin. There's definitely a peer pressure. Also, after sex, the validation you get that a woman finds you sexually attractive is way more powerful than the feeling you get that you're no longer horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:24 AM
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because women are just too complex I don't think this is true. The fact that they are so predictable implies that they are simple and not complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:14 AM
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But these guys simply don't have the looks, social value and ultra confident demeanour to get any physical attraction. I would be completely fine with this (mostly the last two) if it was distributed fairly in todays culture. People actively try and up their social value by playing games through social media and it disappointingly has the effect they are after; they post pictures of themselves with other people and upload it to their social media to give the impression that they are safe and and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:12 AM
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Men that have had a hard time getting laid oftentimes don't like themselves and aren't comfortable with themselves. I agree with this but different men have different standards for themselves. Why should a man with no ambition have preferential treatment when it comes to getting laid just because he's happy with playing video games all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:07 AM
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I would add to this that the longer you go without physical intimacy; the harder it is to connect with a woman on an emotional level too without getting the fucking out of your system first. This is not my experience at all. The longer I went without physical intimacy, the only thing I wanted to do was cuddle because it was something that I couldn't full-fill on my own. And that pretty much would kill the mood for sex. I think to be able to go through with sex when you first meet a woman is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:04 AM
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Steve Wozniak despite him being the brains behind Jobs. You are asking why can't they just be charismatic and a people person to? My point was that Steve Wozniak was visionary and he was his own person unlike most STEM students. Most STEM students however have a superiority complex for just copying someone else's idea and sticking some numbers into an equation. When you hear a guy who's not very social and who's awkward talking about something they are deeply obsessed about it's intriguing. Howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:32 AM
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That's true. My point is, look how 'cool' the most famous scientists from say the 40s - 70s were. Almost none fell into the current stereotype of STEM nerds. STEM students are so polarized now and it's almost like you are excluded if you don't play D&D or you aren't into sci-fi. The majority of those guys aren't innovative or creative at all; they just follow the same 'nerd' trends and the only reason they are really doing STEM is because they are terrible socially. Meanwhile, look at Bill Gates…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:04 AM
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As a guy most STEM guys are so boring and a lot of them aren’t as clever as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:50 AM
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Porn isn’t a cope because it’s often better than sex. Socialising with friends you don’t like is a cope because you’re only doing it out of FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:45 AM
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This is correct. The only stats that matter are the relationships where the woman is initiating sex more or equally to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:43 AM
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Read my next line and then comment. However, when they are put into a more personal situation, for example like 'Netflix and chill', they completely come out of their shell and are perfectly relaxed and able to just act naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:19 PM
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Let me put it this way. There are some men who will never feel comfortable in an office environment where everyone calls HR and calls other people out falsely to be seen favourably by their boss. They may however feel comfortable in a manual labour job where they can interact more 'old school' with their colleagues where they act competitively but noone plays games to get a promotion. It's not worthwhile to force them into an office environment where they can provide more value elsewhere. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:17 PM
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This has nothing to do with anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:05 PM
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Socialising as an adolescence is completely different from socialising as an adult. Most people I know who were popular as an adolescent aren't doing well at all as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:20 PM
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You are right to point out that some men struggle with social cues however there is a large minority that understand the shallowness of certain social norms that chose not to participate in them; a large proportion of those with social anxiety are not that way because they don't understand social interactions, it's a result of them understanding the dangers and pitfalls of a social interaction going wrong more than anyone almost to a fault. Also, some people don't like the whole restaurant and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:18 PM
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I'm glad I got fucked over when I was young so I know what to look out for to avoid a situation like this.
/r/MGTOW21/11/20 04:44 PM
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If that were true, women would call all the men they perceive as being 'players' a creep or a pervert.
/r/MGTOW21/11/20 04:38 PM
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I don't even know how I would be able to even deal with this if I was in his shoes.
/r/MGTOW21/11/20 04:37 PM
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Put it this way. Before you had sex with your partner, did you treat him differently to your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:35 AM
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But it's not basically the only thing. The other things aren't trivial by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:31 AM
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A 20 yo woman (n=6) who had sex with 4 men after a few weeks of dating and had 2 long term boyfriends This is even worse. It indicates that she sees no difference between the guys she meets casually and her long term relationships. ​ What you should be looking for are displays of commitment, lack of trauma and resentment, good moral character, a healthy attitude towards men and masculinity, and a background of an intact family. I agree with this to a certain extent except the lack of trauma part…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:29 AM
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since basically the only thing that separates a partner from a friend is sex. This is not true. There's way more to a partner than just a friend you have sex with. That's what you call a friend with benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:24 AM
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a lot of “people” will say Netflix and pizza is not a date and that is low effort because he’s just trying to be cheap Do people actually say that? That's probably how most dates go in college. If you're in college and going to expensive restaurants, you're most likely a complete outcast. The whole culture is built on cheap alcohol, house parties etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:11 AM
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I feel like it's so much easier if you're a woman than a man if you are brought up in any negative environments when it comes to sex. When you eventually go to college, there will be no shortage of opportunities for you to get past your upbringing if you're a woman, but if you're a guy, your confidence is most likely going to be low, you're going to have way less opportunities on average, and every woman will get turned off by you when the time comes to have sex because you'll just be viewed as …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:06 AM
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There’s no permanence in a relationship with a woman, they’re the ones that usually end things They also have a way of rationalising and projecting bad qualities onto men who haven't even displayed those traits. The Halo-effect is massive with women and honestly, it's the only thing that causes relationships to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:06 AM
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Really? I could cuddle for hours on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:19 PM
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relieving touch hunger. You can cuddle for that. You can't hug yourself but you can sexually pleasure yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:17 PM
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desiring being touched and feeling being held and kissed As a guy this is my main desire with a woman. You can't hug yourself but you can sexually pleasure yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:16 PM
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Naked skin on skin. Thats what cuddling is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:13 PM
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If men had as much difficulty reaching orgasm as women from a physiological standpoint A lot of men do. It's just they are more neurotic and therefore less likely to hit on women out of fear of being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:10 PM
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Those women are most likely in their 30s to 40s. Casual sex is only a game played by college people. Of course anyone out of college is going to think casual sex is underrated; you’re going to feel like a complete loser since especially for women, you’re going to be wondering ‘why am I travelling half way across the city at 1am when I have work tomorrow for a guy I don’t even like’.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:30 PM
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I mean the bare minimum for a relationship is that the other person actually cares about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:06 PM
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If she’s having sex with you and getting you off it’s obvious she cares about your sexual pleasure. That's not true. Women and men often have ulterior motives. For example, he might be getting you off because he wants to have sex with you again not because he cares about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:28 PM
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I don't doubt that that's what you think you want, but in reality it's completely different. As a guy, losing my virginity was horrible. I wasn't attracted to her, I was nervous and bad sex is not neutral in the way a bad kiss is neutral: it's very uncomfortable. You most likely will not want to see the guy again and it just creates such a mess emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:47 PM
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Put it this way. Why should a guy care when that woman probably doesn't care about him? He doesn't know if she'll dump him for the 1000 reasons she has in her head so he might as well just have consensual sex with her if she's offering and just not care about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:26 PM
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I just wouldn't go out of my way to have PIV sex for sex's sake, without other incentives. I don't see how any woman could claim that women and men have the same sex drive after reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:22 PM
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Women don't want to have a burden of an inexperienced sexual partner. I got rejected twice by non virgin girls because I was virgin. This is the sad truth. I got dumped after I lost my virginity to a girl who was essentially my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:21 PM
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and had a solid trusting relationship, do you think you could relax a little on the constant comparisons? Most women don't actually judge him to other males: they judge how he reacts in the presence of other males. For example, you can be at the top of your game in a given area but if you act insecure, she's going to think the other male is superior. You hear it from women's mouths all the time; 'confidence is the most attractive trait'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:06 PM
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And hey, who knows, maybe you'll end up being one of the guys who never has to. It only takes 1 woman to completely ruin your life and perception of all women. Whether that's based on reality or not is a completely different matter but there are some things that can happen to you that are just so difficult to recover from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:43 PM
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and obviously there is always a better person This isn't so obvious. Who's the better person exactly? People are complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:06 PM
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This is why having a tonne of female friends is a bad thing. If they’re attracted to you, they will never refer to you as their ‘friend’ even if you’re the guy they talk to the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 09:11 PM
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This. The only times that really count are if a woman hits on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:08 AM
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I see a man when I walk to my car at night and I find myself judging his movements, his facial expressions, to see if any of it rings alarm bells. I know it's worse for women by a large margin since they have the possibility of being raped, however women seem to be expecting themselves to live in a world that's completely safe where they roam around care free. If you asked most men in that situation you described, they would also be scared and more alert. No-one, man or woman is going to feel sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:56 PM
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Isn't love a trait that largely promotes monogamy. Most people don't love more than one person romantically. It seems that people only favour polygamy now because they essentially have partners solely for sexual satisfaction which polygamy is ideal for. If you're financially independent, have your own house, have your own social group etc, what do you need out of your partner except sex in modern culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:53 PM
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I doubt you could even have a single romantic encounter if alcohol wasn't involved initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:08 AM
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This may be true when you're in college, but after that, people rarely desire anyone as strongly. Like in college, if a woman is rubbing your leg, she's probably into you but if you're 25 and a woman's rubbing your leg, it's probably to see if she can end up liking you and she's going through the motions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:04 AM
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Many men cannot tell if a woman desires them. I think if you've had one instance of being desired, you can easily tell if a woman likes you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:00 AM
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But it's not even that. Going out for dinner is way too formal. If you're meeting up with your boss to discuss ideas, it's completely different because all you're going to do is talk and a restaurant provides the perfect environment to do that. However, when you're with a girl, it's completely different. There's so much non-verbal communication going on. Like if you're watching a movie at your house, and she comes in closer, there is absolutely nothing you can do in a restaurant and the moment w…
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 10:04 PM
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Who's spending $78.51 on a first date? You can literally just have dinner and wine at your house and you'll probably have a better time.
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 06:08 PM
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I was thinking this too. They completely acted like it was the guys fault.
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 06:05 PM
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"she sent me nudes out of nowhere and that made me uncomfortable", "she keeps touching my crotch" I think the intentions for doing this are different between the genders. When a guy does this, it's because he wants to have sex but for women, it's often that they want to get attention or feel good that they have the ability to make a man aroused. That's why it's so easy for women to get away with things because they have so many reasons for being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:54 PM
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Why is that. What happened to the girls that married as virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 09:55 PM
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Yeah guys are just learning faster because of the internet. Plus there was no way to directly compare your social life to that of your friend. Also, you can easily find out what you're missing out on through amateur porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 09:54 PM
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more dominant and with that everything changed. This is that part that that is actually upsetting. When you realise all that it takes to get a girl is to act more dominant. It had nothing to do with you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:39 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:36 PM
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Normal to be attracted to more that one person physically but I don't think romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:31 PM
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I don't think it's that. For example, compare making friends in your first year of college to making friends now when you're 30. It's completely different. Forming social connections during your formative years is something special and can't really be replicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:30 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:59 AM
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I'm confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:52 AM
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Men who said no to sex because they wanted it to be with someone special and thought women did the same thing but found out that all women were lying and had no morals whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:50 AM
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I agree, however there are plenty of reasonable people in the center who see through the political games everyone else is playing and speak the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:37 PM
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I'm not saying that. Most people don't have the ability to follow anything other than trends or what the most popular person is saying. They will always be sheep and the if they were themselves fully, they would still be beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:35 PM
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"I dont care" when asked what you wanna do or where you wanna go Some men genuinely don't care about things like that; they are more interested in just going with the flow because there main motives are just spending time with you. However I agree, saying 'I don't care' when you really do will just make you feel weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:13 PM
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Bill Gates is an alpha. Your college student who speaks the truth about racial politics is an alpha. A man with a well informed opinion who is willing to lose all his social status for standing up for what he believes is right is an alpha. A guy who says an unpopular but true opinion on his college paper is an alpha. Your chad who just watches football and everyone is scared of isn't; he's just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:09 PM
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Yeah, the kind of guys who do this are the ones who are essentially overgrown 14 year olds who play video games all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:17 PM
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The truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:15 PM
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Most men settle for someone undesirable because a quality woman just doesn't exist or they're taken very early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:13 PM
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Well the latter part is irrelevant because noone sees it in your everyday encounters. If a woman makes fun of you for it, the beta thing to do is to just be a punching bag and the alpha thing to do is to leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:57 PM
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It’s to engage your social circle. I agree with this point and I don't know why you're having a go at me. Fun is hardly enough to maintain a relationship. In the long term, most people want someone with a similar value structure and they want to build a life together. That goes for friendships too. Most people leave behind their 'drinking buddies' as they get older and focus on people who make a positive impact on their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:54 PM
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This is what people who are essentially sheep do. People with interests and ambitions view relationships differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:41 PM
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Being an alpha is just having your own thoughts and opinion and being your own person. If you are that, you transcend all of this ranking heirarchies. I do think that some people are temperamentally wired to just be beta males however and they are essentially sheep. They are the guys who just follow rules blindly and stick to what's popular, not because they're scared of being an outcast, but just because they don't have the ability to think originally or they don't have any interests. Women som…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:38 PM
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Men wanting a respectable woman to have a relationship with and a slut to have sex with is not the Madonna-Whore complex. He's most likely able to have sex with both of them he just desires the other one more. It's a preference. The Madonna-Whore complex is where the guy physically cannot get aroused by a loving partner no matter how much he wants to. It's not a choice for him and he really wants to have sex in a loving relationship but because of the trauma he experienced, he physically cannot.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:29 PM
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It’s caused by parental abuse and neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:20 PM
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Madonna/whore complex People need to seriously stop using the idea of the Madonna-Whore complex so haphazardly. It's a serious condition that is devastating for the male and is the byproduct of childhood neglect and abuse. For starters it's incredibly rare and completely prevents the guy from having a healthy relationship in adulthood; he physically cannot sexually desire the type of woman he falls in love with. It's heartbreaking and possibly one of the worst conditions a guy can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:53 AM
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All women are broken though so using the term broken is superfluous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:51 AM
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This niceness to her is not authentic in the least and is completely performative. Women are well aware of it. They say 'he's nice to me and that's all that matters'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:46 AM
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Yeah I see that scenario playing out a lot. I think some people react differently and are more preceptive to when that stuff happens. Whenever a girl stopped liking me, I could pick it up immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:16 PM
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I'm shocked you would say that. I barely have any relationship experience but they all started off as mutually simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:09 PM
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Which part? All relationships starting off as mutual simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:05 PM
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All relationships start off as mutual simping. The problem is it eventually gets into her head and she starts thinking you're obsessed, low value and that she can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:57 PM
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In terms of sex, a woman who actively wants to have sex with me daily. In terms of relationships, I'm not entirely sure. Maybe we both have separate lives but we spend evenings and nights together around 2 times a week. Also we have a realistic idea of who the other person is i.e. she has a firm grasp on what she is projecting onto me versus what is actually real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:56 PM
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And just to show you how much people hate men who have gone through trauma, my previous comment got downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:15 PM
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Whenever I became romantically attracted to a girl, it was never through sexual attraction. Which is inevitably why the 'relationships' always failed. It was always through me wanting her to look after me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:37 PM
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No, it's fairly common. Women cannot take rejection at all especially from a guy she deems to be below her which is just about every guy in the mind of a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:36 PM
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I don’t think it’s always exaggerated truth at all. Think about how many women call a guy gay to her friends if he rejects her sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:53 PM
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What does woowoo mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 04:15 AM
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I guess those women/people (but let's be honest: mostly women) believe that the guy is going to potentially blow up so they do it to save themselves from possible harm. Weak women do that. Strong women tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:57 AM
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If a guy specifically asks me out, I know he's initially coming from a mindset of sexual attraction. Not necessarily. A lot of guys are so damaged now that they just want love. They are so depraved of human interaction that they probably haven't even talked to the opposite sex properly in a couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:56 AM
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Am I the only one who's got asked to be friends after having sex and dating a girl? One of the most horrible moments of my life. What made it worse was the fact that she was the one chasing me to begin with and then she suddenly switched on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:53 AM
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Worst is when a girl says 'lets be friends' after they've had sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:50 AM
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As a guy, anyone being deliberately fake nice to anyone after around 21 rings all sorts of alarm bells. It's like, when a car salesman is fake nice to you, you know it's just because he want's to sell you a car and that he has ulterior motives. However, treating someone with respect if they are deserving of it is different and so is being polite. Deliberately being nice to someone usually signals ulterior motives. The only exception perhaps is if you are being nice to someone if they are for exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:45 AM
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“A woman for sex and a woman for relationships” is pretty much how men judge prospects I would agree with you on this point, however that is completely different to what is defined as the Madonna-Whore complex. The Madonna-Whore complex is a condition caused by childhood trauma that means that the guy physically cannot get sexually aroused by the woman he loves no matter how much he wants to. It's not a preference. It's the source of so much pain meanwhile in your statement, the guy is probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:20 AM
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Honestly, if you are interested in hooking up with random people after the age of 21, you're probably not suitable relationship material for anyone. Most people grow out of it. You can see the allure people have in college when your group of friends have banter with you after you made a terrible decision on a night out, but after that, it's just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:16 AM
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People need to seriously stop using the idea of the Madonna-Whore complex so haphazardly. It's a serious condition that is devastating for the male and is the byproduct of childhood neglect and abuse. For starters it's incredibly rare and completely prevents the guy from having a healthy relationship in adulthood; he physically cannot sexually desire the type of woman he falls in love with. It's heartbreaking and possibly one of the worst conditions a guy can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:03 AM
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Most guys before they became red pulled once they found out the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:59 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:55 PM
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The big deal is that it means that a woman never truly loves you for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:47 PM
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You can't compare the two. It's a woman's job to select the best man and you cannot take the mans principles out of that equation. Mens job is to have sex as much as possible. They are consistent in the fact that they don't care and they don't have double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:05 PM
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Now he’s unattractive and has a little dick, or so she said. There's obviously some ulterior motives going on. Girls know that commenting on a guys size is the quickest way to hurt them. She's probably just resentful that he rejected her (because it indicates to her that she's not as attractive as she thought she was) and to get her revenge, she uses the quickest way possible to hurt him as much as she can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:58 PM
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Girls have different rules based on how attractive you are. In your example, if a girl was against trump supporters, she may let that slide for an 8 but not a 6. Girls think differently to guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:55 PM
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Girls or guys for that matter don't care about personality for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:49 PM
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The thing about girls being attracted to your dominance rather than your looks is bad because it's so temperamental. Inevitably, you're going to be in a group of people where you get disrespected and it will just end up with the girl suddenly loosing attraction to you and withholding sex. Meanwhile, the guy who just got in solely on his looks will never have sex withheld from him no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:47 PM
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a good looking dude 9 dropped to a 3 It doesn't matter though in modern culture. That guy would have already fucked her during the first week and that girl would be addicted to the chemicals released during sex so he would always remain a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:34 PM
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Getting hobbies to attract women is one of the worst things you can do. You should be automatically selected out of the gene pool for having no interests and just being essentially a work slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:13 PM
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Why the short blunt response?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:34 PM
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Everything. Social media is the main mechanism used to obtain casual sex outside of the first 2 years of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:26 PM
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But you can prepare for the risks when you cycle on the road. For example, you can wear a helmet. Noone can predict what the next social media platform/social media etiquette is going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:14 PM
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Only weak men who idolise say football players. Most men look up to men who display integrity and honourable behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:13 PM
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The two are related. Part of the reason women want guys is due to charmisa. To have charisma, you need to be part of a social group which men facilitate. If you're low in 'male status', you're not going to be able to be charasmatic which will make you unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:09 PM
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As a guy this is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:07 PM
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I think casual sex is also a byproduct of women having insane relationship standards. When you first meet someone, you project a complete false fantasy onto them (which for women is most likely the ideal relationship partner) and that quickly wanes off after a few weeks. Women can have the illusion of having the perfect relationship partner if they have casual sex with a different guy every few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:03 PM
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Those bad experiences are just the risk you take for not being celebate for long periods of time. The problem is that there's no stable way to predict whether a choice is a risk or not anymore since how social status is governed (social media) is constantly changing which inevitably causes your partners attraction to you to vary. There was a time not that long ago where people were you were a weirdo if you talked to strangers on the internet. Now, your relative social status is governed mostly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:01 PM
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It does because treating a woman badly when in a relationship signals to her that you’re of higher value and you get more sex. It’s so fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:57 AM
2

I’m not to sure about that. Think about how many women tweeted how they wanted to fuck the Joker
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:55 AM
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Occasionally there'll be a bitchy woman who mocks the guy but frankly those women hang in crowds where both the guys and gals get off on being cunts. These groups need to be avoided as much as possible. If their making fun about someone when you're there, they most likely doing the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:24 AM
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I think it really depends on what type of group you are talking to. Some guys get shunned from certain male groups when it's the group that's the problem. Likewise some guys will just get shunned from mixed groups just because they are different. For example, imagine how a pimp would get treated if he attended a ballet class.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:22 AM
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I think both men and women don't think about the unattractive members of the opposite gender however women go through way more effort to actually vocalize it. Women actually do think about those guys a lot but it's because they are terrified of them being their only option. So as a defence mechanism, they say that they don't think about them at all to distance themselves from them as far as possible so that they don't have to deal with the fact that they themselves may not be as attractive as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:06 AM
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There IS universal selective pressure based on facial harmony and body ratios, which can be backed up by science. Good looking faces look good to us because they indicate healthy immune systems. Noone is denying that. All I'm saying is good looking isn't synonymous with intelligent. If you had two equally good looking people, yet one looked more nerdy, assuming he's more intelligent is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 05:31 PM
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Intelligence is an attractive quality dictated by your genetic makeup. The halo-effect disrupts that by people falsely attributing intelligence to those who are not. Attractive genes are fit genes and create the healthiest children. A stable environment is imperative also which is produced by intelligent parents. The halo-effect disrupts people selecting the most intelligent people. Look, people following the halo-effect is like people mating solely with the people who satisfy their fetishes. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 05:24 PM
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The halo effect exists because it’s a beneficial adaptation for the species. Not every attractive quality is a beneficial adaptation for the species. For example, many women find sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies attractive but it's well documented that it does way more harm than any good in the long-term. By your reasoning, those individuals should be prioritised in sexual selection. ​ We prioritize the interests of genetically superior individuals for a reason. This is wishful thinking. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 05:15 PM
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It shocks me that noone is introspective enough on this post to see this. They are literally spewing out biases such as good looking=intelligent and venomously deny anyone who says the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 03:45 PM
0

Where the fuck are you getting this information?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 03:42 PM
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This is the worst thing I've ever read and just goes to show how dangerous women's thinking can be. They project all good traits onto good looking people and automatically think unattractive people are fundamentally evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 03:40 PM
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Yeah but you can be confident by being right at the bottom of the intelligence curve because you aren't aware of your own limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 02:00 AM
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best of the men offering They don't have the ability to judge the best men. It's why they can't tell the difference between arrogance and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 01:53 AM
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Women only care about that when it affects status, money, or education (and therefore income). This is true. They also have a hard time discerning the difference between intelligence and the person who's the loudest person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 01:51 AM
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Yeah but a lot of those relationships aren't featuring mutual sexual attraction. It's a beta-bux scenario which doesn't really count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 01:44 AM
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This is the major point. The only relationships that count in this circumstance are the ones where the woman is initiating sex just as much as the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 01:43 AM
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Nope never. I have seen women however misinterpret a guy being friendly as him flirting too many times to count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 05:43 PM
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Men get mad at women fawning over assholes. They actually don't care if the attractive honourable guy gets the girl. It's why no-one rants about how Barack Obama has a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 05:40 PM
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Those academics are the ones no-ones really paying attention to though. If you look at the truly revolutionary scientists, they have to be creative by definition which isn't always reflected in their grades. Thats why the selection mechanism for grad school takes into account multiple parts of your educational background through letter of recommendations and prior dissertations etc. The way science is done nowadays, you can essentially be of average intelligence and still 'succeed'. For example,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:10 PM
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Anything of value is extremely competitive. Most intelligent people either end up right at the very top (which is rare) or right at the bottom. Most people the general public regard as being intelligent are not. I would argue that the minimum requirement to be considered intelligent is the ability to be creative, otherwise your job could simply be replaced by a machine. True creativity is rare and that's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:53 PM
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An intelligent, career minded man is going to be bored to tears with an uneducated woman who works at wall mart. This is not true in the least. There are plenty of intelligent people who work in Wall mart who have way more interesting stories than 'all I did at work was sign papers'. Malcolm X worked as a salesman and I dare you to say that he wasn't intelligent or uneducated on American culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:24 PM
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As far as I know, there aren't any widespread jokes about women's bodies that men say (except maybe fat jokes but they use those in regards to men also). Women have so many they use for men such as on height, size, balding etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:19 PM
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Then why would girls go through so much effort to make jokes about height when it doesn't mean anything to them? 5'11 is 2 inches above average in the US btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:15 PM
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There are different types of comedy and I would agree, that things like shock comedy don't really give much insight, but on the whole, you can tell someones actual views verses what they say by what they laugh at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:13 PM
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are not holding out for a girlfriend to have sex. I didn't have many options but I was still holding out. I rejected a girl who was naked in my bed asking me to 'get on top of her' because I was holding out. Once I actually lost my virginity, I felt betrayed because the girl it was with essentially put on the whole 'innocent girl act' (when she had such a high body count for someone her age). Most guys feel betrayed because they wait out to lose their virginity to someone special and then they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:10 PM
1

I agree with this 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:01 PM
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Jokes are serious because it reveals what a person truly thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:58 PM
0

They do care about personality otherwise they wouldn't be able to reliably select the assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:57 PM
1

Say your both single & just want a quick fuck This is rare. Most people just masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 12:56 PM
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So, this study only looks at the most mild of street harassment. Street harassment also includes things like being groped, sexually explicit remarks, being followed, etc. This is what I initially thought. If you've grown up in a rough neighbourhood, what you view as sexual harassment is going to be drastically different to what a woman who's lived a sheltered, privately educated life from a rich family is going to think. Like some women who have lived a sheltered life think that an unattractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 11:34 AM
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Yes because even if you don’t like her you still get the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:05 AM
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It's not their fault you're a total jerk who thinks his shit dosent stink This is the type of guy who gets a date though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 09:56 AM
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Better the devil you do know than the one you don't. On tinder, it's relatively easy to find out what a person is truly like compared to on something like Instagram or Facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:26 AM
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Even if you are correct (which you aren't) it doesn't change the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:55 PM
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It doesn't matter if a female orgasms. The male orgasm is the only thing that's important because it's required to produce a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:11 PM
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Most rapists are already sexually active. That means that other women have already selected them as sexual partners. Women just need to do a better job of selecting. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:10 PM
2

It's interesting how most people have an idea of what an incel is which is completely different from the reality of an incel. Just remember, that you can be as good looking, hygienic and polite as you want, but for a guy, as soon as you have social anxiety, you're essentially an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:08 PM
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I'm not even surprised at this point.
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 01:34 PM
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Many guys at high school age/adolescence are nice to women because they are looking for a mother figure in the same way there are girls who have daddy issues. The difference is that the girls with daddy issues can live a healthy life meanwhile the guys with mother issues cannot and are essentially ostracized.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:58 AM
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You need to find a partner who's a mutual friend or it will never work since there is no social pressure not to be a dick. If you're integrated into a community, if you're a dick to your partner, you will be ostracised from the group since they will see what you're doing; that pressure doesn't exist through OLD which is why it only works for a small percentage of people who genuinely don't care about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:55 AM
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I can imagine that if they have nothing else going for them in the world, that money plays a more significant part. Being poor, alone and single is a lot worse than being with a guy you're not in love with and having enough money to buy what you want and live comfortably in a nice house. If he's at work during the day and you aren't, you don't even have to see them most of the time yet you get all the benefits of their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 06:01 AM
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I doubt an 18-21 yr old goes on a date anymore unless they are a couple. They are most likely just chilling with each others friendship group or chilling in their dorm room together etc. Of course it varies from person to person, but socialising at that age is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 05:58 AM
1

Isn't this classed as sexual harassment by the feminist definition because she's essentially sending the guy unwanted nudes?
/r/MGTOW13/10/20 06:33 AM
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I can guarantee that if a girl is active on twitter, she's a horrible person.
/r/MGTOW13/10/20 06:30 AM
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Why? Have some confidence and tell her no. It ties in with the idea that guys are always told that they always want sex and a lot of the time (especially during their adolescence and early 20s) they try and live up to that. I remember when I was that age and I would be friends with some girls in a study group. Some guys would be like, 'who would you have sex with if you could?' and I was like 'what I wasn't even thinking that'. It kind of made me feel insecure because I was like 'am I supposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 05:23 AM
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But half the times they have sex with that guy is for other reasons. How many women use sex as a way to stop their SO going out with their mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 04:25 AM
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Because it's the truth. It's like saying why hold onto the idea that the earth is round?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 04:21 AM
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For a guy, you have to be low in neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:17 AM
1

Why is that an interesting take? I think most would agree that someone hooking up with someone random from a nightclub is a slut and someone who has sex with someone they can imagine themselves in relationship is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:16 AM
2

Ulterior motives are things such as she want's to see you sexually frustrated because she gets the validation of knowing she's attractive from you. Or denying you sex because she enjoys having power over you.
/r/MGTOW12/10/20 01:57 AM
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A lot of the time you want the validation more than the sex. Women think that you're getting sexually frustrated because of their ego, when in reality you're just getting upset because they're being a dick to you.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 10:29 PM
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There is more to marriage than sex, you know.. Yeah but there's not more to women than sex.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 10:27 PM
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I think the point is that half the consent is implicitly implied when getting married to someone. If you're not willing to do that for the person well then the lady should have the decency not to get married and find someone else. You're right that everyone has the right to deny sex but there's a difference between denying it for an ulterior motive and denying it just because you're not in the mood.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 10:26 PM
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For me it's anyone over 22. It's nearly always a humble brag.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 10:00 PM
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Having sex with someone solely based on superficial traits and not on character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:54 PM
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Most likely they aren't actually desperate and that they just have really bad abandonment issues. The best thing to do is make them feel safe and the desperation actually goes but no woman is going to do that. What actually happens if the guy with abandonment issues keeps getting ditched for being 'desperate' and he just get's even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:31 AM
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I think most relationships are extremely shallow and it was a shock to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:18 AM
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Please stop using the word Madonna-whore complex so haphazardly. It's an actual issue and actually extremely sad for anyone who has it. The guy physically can't get aroused by a loving partner but can easily do so for someone he doesn't love. Just take that in for a second. The guy will never be able to have a healthy relationship because of the way his mother treated him during childhood. He's punished for his mothers abuse. It's extremely devastating and is not under the guys control and not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:24 PM
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Does that mean that if she's not doing that, she doesn't think you're attractive enough to get a mate or date any one of her friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:20 PM
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If a guy is not getting the sex he wants a month in or whatever arbitrary threshold he picks, then he should drop her, problem solved. I think the only way is to drop her the first time she says no and you have to drop her extremely suddenly. When a girl is infatuated with a guy, saying no isn't even on her mind. If she doesn't want to, she'll say it in a nice way and slightly flirtatious like 'again? but we've already done it 3 times today :') go watch porn lol '. Compare that with a hard 'no' …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:15 PM
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Most girls in college are more interested in socialising than money. In college, I couldn't have imagined dating anyone who wasn't even in the same college since there would be too many differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:10 PM
1

Yes but women forget that a man that mansplains also mansplains to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:17 AM
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Honestly the 1000x more sensitive finding doesn't phase me at all. I don't care at all about the economic status of a woman when considering pure physical attraction. 1000 times an extraordinary tiny value is still a tiny value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:56 AM
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They mean smart enough to read and dominate the social situation You don't have to be smart to dominate a social situation. Yes, being smart is one way to dominate a social situation however if you're low in neuroticism, you're pretty much guaranteed to act more dominant initially. ​ toward the end of the evening she noted her date "doesn't know what he's talking about does he" -- I agreed -- she left the party with me (the lawyer who has actually gone to court and won trials) -- I wasn't loud a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:50 PM
1

I'm confused why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:45 AM
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Look, there are men that are so far ahead of their peers competence hierarchy of let's say their town that no-one who is interested in their hierarchy is intelligent enough to even distinguish that the said person is at the top. You see this so much with artists. Most artists are fighting over who can draw the most realistic landscape scene meanwhile another is successfully representing complex ideas abstractly and creating a new way to see the world. Everyone says to the latter guy 'I could do …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:39 AM
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Literally, barely noticed when they ghosted me until literally years later when they pop up on my Facebook feed. Like, why would we care? You sound so bitter that the guy that you didn't find attracted rejected you. You prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:44 AM
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The problem is that true creativity is exceptionally rare. Most creative jobs aren't actually creative since you are essentially repeating what someone else has done. But yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:05 AM
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I hate to say it but I don't think it's the same. Women's job is to select the best man (and character is an extremely important part of that). Men's job is to procreate as much as possible. Also, men view sex as a reward (you having sex with an abusive asshole is essentially you validating and congratulating him on his behaviour. When a guy has sex with a bad woman (in terms of character), it's widely known that it means nothing and that he was just horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:49 AM
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The thing that bothered me was that without much experience, you're just going to get ditched after every first time you have with a girl so you'll never learn. And you'll just keep on getting more and more heartbroken.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:40 AM
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I found this to be true of women too. They seemed so much more interesting in college. Now they just all seem the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:37 AM
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Smart doesn't matter since most jobs you just have to do what you're told using a method someone else discovered. When women say smart, what they really mean is the loudest arrogant person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:33 AM
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Guys get access to women by outcompeting other men not by trying to change women. This used to be the case but not anymore. If you were a violent abusive asshole, you would essentially be ostracised by your entire neighbourhood and if any woman was found to be having a sexual encounter with you, the same thing would happen to her. Now men don't need to compete with other men at all, or even be liked by anyone since social relationships have changed so much. Relationships are happening through OL…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:31 AM
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Male status and competence do add to raw female sexual desire for a man Can we just stop throwing around the competence myth so haphazardly. Women aren't good judges of competence; this is a researched fact. They rely on other mens reaction to that man to judge his relative competence which like you correctly pointed out, is related to his status in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:18 AM
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Well it's usually the person who is able to protect her first and foremost and then on top of that someone she gets along with. If women just admitted that, most men would be perfectly okay with it and even be like 'fair enough'. It's just they use this term 'best mate' when half of those males can't even screw a lightbulb. Most men have no problem with the 'true best man' getting a mate. That's why no man ever complains that Obama has a wife and not them, or that Malcolm X was married. What the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 09:16 AM
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Well the criteria is often more simple. Often the men just physically fight and the winner gets to mate. I think it's fair to say that with humans it's significantly more complex and even if it isn't, we understand it a lot better since we can find out what humans think. Edit: With chimpanzees, the female actually isn't selective at all and will mate with any male. It's just the so called 'alpha' physically stops it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:55 AM
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A woman who thought everything I told you in the posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:54 AM
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I know. Women's sexuality is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:52 AM
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Women deserve that though? They essentially tricked the guy by offering him vanilla sex and acting like a 'good girl' when secretly she would rather be with someone else. That's betrayal and women deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 11:59 PM
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So you were essentially selfish since a guy gets no satisfaction from eating you out and you demanded it? Also it's interesting how you make the distinction between inappropriate and hot guys. Surely in your example, the 'hot guys' were the ones being inappropriate by your own definition. Yet no, in your mind inappropriate just means not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:43 PM
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What if you seem hurt or offended but you still respond by challenging the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:40 PM
1

Perhaps because of the Coronavirus pandemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:31 PM
1

I just watched a film yesterday (Legend) and it said it. If I recall correctly, uncle Phil said it on the Fresh Prince of Belair also.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:14 PM
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Because I've seen it happen to other people a lot of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:13 PM
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Some disturbing shit I’m reading today. Women's sexuality is disturbing. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:26 PM
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arrest warrant written all over it. If you really think being that way is what woman want, I suggest you hire a lawyer on retainer. Why? Being selfish in bed is still consensual. ​ It’s like some guys here have no idea what a healthy sexual relationship looks like. Women are only attracted to guys who are selfish in bed because like I said, they confuse it with him 'knowing what he want's and not settling for less'. They prefer it. That dynamic is the only sexual relationship that exists. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:19 PM
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It was a long time ago and I just brought it up to make my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:12 PM
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because you failed to challenge a friend’s rudeness then you’ve got bigger problems. Or had them. True. But some friends, especially when you're naive are complete snakes. Hopefully as you grow older you become wiser and drop those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:03 PM
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For healthy people it's a bonding, intimate experience you share with the other. Yeah women ruined that idea. ​ Don't you want your partner to enjoy sex with you too? Not being selfish in bed is the quickest way to lose a partner. A guy being selfish to a woman is her seeing it as 'he knows what he wants and won't settle for less'. As soon as you care about her, it's game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:30 PM
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Okay well women need to start using the term 'best for me' instead of 'best'. ​ Mate choice preferences must be universal by definition I agree and that's why people specifically use terms like 'I prefer someone dominant in bed' since you can accurately define that. Saying that you want the 'best' is just too general. It's like saying 'I want to go to the best restaurant'. Is that Italian food? Or just burgers? Are desserts included? What about the decor? What budget?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 04:39 AM
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We generally tend to view certain traits as positive/negative/neutral and we all generally share those views. There are two types of artists; those who can only draw non-abstractly (photorealistic drawings) and those who are interested in conveying representations of ideas abstractly (which is exceptionally rare and most people competing in that hierarchy are posers). Most if not all humans on this planet think abstract art is something anyone can do and is at the bottom of the hierarchy when in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:32 AM
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As someone who wen't to college, it's very difficult to relate to someone who didn't. It completely changes your perception of everything. I took a sort of gap year so I have experience on what it's like to not be in college after high school and it was so miserable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:26 AM
2

What makes women or men think that they are intelligent to know who the best at a particular subject is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:14 AM
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"Women want the best, men only want enough" The problem with general statements like these is how do you define best? Every person has a different value structure; one might define best as most intelligent, another as most creative and another as best athletic ability. If that's your definition of 'best' then that's perfectly acceptable. It's just the majority of people are not intelligent enough to judge who the best at a given activity is so they use income as an indicator and extrapolate that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:12 AM
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(90%) of men are low value types How do you define 'low value types'?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:00 AM
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Thats not what the article was talking about. It's talks about women who are rejected by attractive men treat unattractive men worse since they can't take that they may not be as attractive as the attractive man and that they might actually be less attractive than they thought so they resent the unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 12:57 AM
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Insecurity, poor self esteem, is not a good reason to stay in a relationship. I agree. ​ But ego (read: confidence, being self assured) is a a good reason to leave a relationship if you’re unhappy. I've seen countless friends abandon their existing friendship group because they thought they could do better and they all ended up all alone with no-one who had their backs. By better, it's always to do with popularity and never to do with character traits and all they are showing to other people is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:59 PM
1

Yes, they’re dying to be married but only with who they want. Is this still the case for modern women? Most people nowadays seem to just want to get on with their own life. I've seen a lot of women leaving their friends, not wanting roommates because they can essentially live their own life on their own terms e.g. have their own house where they can do anything they want without anyone telling them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:45 PM
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leave relationships they’re unhappy in? I don't think it's a case of them becoming unhappy with the relationship, I think it's moreso their ego thinking they are better just because they have a higher education and them then resenting the man because they think he's holding her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:39 PM
1

Wait why is a college educated wife better than a high school dropout?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:36 PM
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And the good women out the stay silent cuz all the other toxic chicks keep screeching “feminism” and “kill all men” while dating absolute losers because the good guys got their heart broke once and said “hell no never again” This.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 12:11 AM
2

I agree with this. It's already sort of happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 12:10 AM
0

I don't think so. I think you could correctly say that toned most likely looks better than non-toned on everyone but being jacked just doesn't suit everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 11:00 PM
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If she wouldn't be there for you if you had the same issues as her, then it's time to leave unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 08:34 PM
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No. Most people on here used to be blue pilled until they got hurt or betrayed. Also, it's in women's best interests to describe men who have found the truth about them as autistic because it gives them an easy escape route for them to discredit their words by saying that they don't understand social relationships and there's nothing they can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 08:30 PM
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So in your hypothetical example, Justin Bieber will have 200 kids (assuming 2 kids per woman) and he'll have to somehow be a fatherly figure to all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:47 AM
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Sorry but this so called 'happiness' won't even last 1 generation of reproduction. You'll most likely traumatise the kids who will have no clear father figure, mother figure or sense of family. Those kids will become adults and god only knows what will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 02:43 AM
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Sorry but this really isn't generally true because it relies on the woman's IQ being sufficient enough to tell whether a man is more competent or not. You could argue that women use income to measure competence however certain professions sacrifice pay for a sense of duty or intellectual stimulation (such as academic roles). Plus women are easily swayed by a mans confidence using that as an indicator for his competence. You could argue that confidence and competence scale together linearly howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 10:02 PM
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I mean there are many reasons for the MeToo movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 06:09 PM
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Nobodies saying that it isn't fun, but it's a lot more than that. If sex wasn't serious, no one would care much about cheating since it wouldn't be a big deal and worse no-one would care about sexual assault. The precise reason that people care about them to the degree that they do signifies that they are a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:27 PM
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harmless fun? Because it's not harmless fun. Sex is always serious even if at the time it doesn't seem that way on surface level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:06 PM
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Except it does if your good looking? That's one attractive trait and it completely changes a man from a donkey to being perceived as the most competent individual in a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:04 PM
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Sorry but it just creates problems since there isn't a general consensus on how intimate oral sex is. Some regard it as cheating, others don't. Some say it's more intimate than PIV, other say the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:54 AM
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Okay, even if it is I'm allowed to have an existing relationship social norm in my ideal. The OP didn't specify that you weren't
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:05 AM
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Oral sex is considered to be almost as taboo as anal sex. No sex before marriage. More taboos on divorce. No OLD. Men can file for divorce if their wife creates a dead bedroom situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:39 AM
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by getting undesirable men out of the gene pool. It also gets undesirable women out of the gene pool btw which is a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:39 AM
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Sadly I don't think it matters as much. If women don't keep up a 'morally good appearance', they would essentially get kicked out of their friendship groups and society by large; they have a direct pressure to keep up appearances unlike men. Men who are morally bad can easily attract women, weak men as followers, and rise to the top of their fields. I do feel that women have a responsibility to select morally good men for that exact reason; by women choosing those men, they are actively particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:21 AM
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I think that this is just the halo effect i.e. guys with bigger muscles are better at fixing things. There are plenty of guys who spend hours in their garages who struggle to find a partner. ​ So many guys now can’t even change a tire. Then women need to stop selecting those men who can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 02:22 AM
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I don't think it is. Yes for standard jobs, the interview stages can be standardised however for truly creative jobs, only a small subset of people even have those abilities and then on top of that the details of your vision and abilities matter too. The idea of 'the best candidate' becomes harder to define in those cases as-well since the most technically proficient, may not have the desired innovative ability. As an example, the student with the highest grades doesn't always make the best rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:13 PM
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Actually I am introverted. I never leave my house since I get most of my energy from being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 07:49 PM
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Okay so you never actually had a relationship with him? I know the idea probably seems okay, but in reality it's a lot different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:46 AM
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If that was the case, you would have chosen that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:41 AM
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What does he do that's creative/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 11:23 PM
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Yeah I know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:52 PM
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I don't know them personally. It's just what I observed in my 1st year of college when you are essentially living in proximity with random people. After 1st year, you essentially choose where and who to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:42 PM
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This is the most important comment on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:31 PM
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Interesting. Yeah you could be right. Men are usually bad at differentiating between morally good women and morally bad women I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:29 PM
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creativity Creativity is extremely rare. Be careful that you actually mean creative and not just someone who can draw a flower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:28 PM
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Then why are women so bad at differentiating between confidence and arrogance meanwhile for men, it's only weak men who can't tell those two traits apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:26 PM
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Exclusivity is actually something that is discussed way later even after a year. I know that sounds silly but think about it. 3 months of hooking up, 3 months of hanging out with each others friend groups while hooking up, 3 months falling out with each other and compulsively cheating on each other, 3 months of realising that they were infact good together and hooking up and then finally they establish a relationship. It's well known that talking about exclusivity too early is the easiest way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:25 PM
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women realize that they will be pumped and dumped There's a pressure for men to do that otherwise they won't be able to get any experience what so ever. Women create that pressure since they quickly ditch a guy who is inexperienced so men are trying to get experience desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:21 PM
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In college, you often go out with your friends everyday of the week for 1 or 2 weeks. Many women compete with each other. For example, it's popular for women to have a chart in the communal area of their dorms where points are assigned per sexual activity undergone e.g. 3 points for penetrative sex, 2 points for oral etc. In 2 weeks, that could already potentially be 14 guys. But lets assume that number is high, I don't think that it's difficult to see how a woman could have a different sexual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:19 PM
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Do you think that it's more-so that they are lying to themselves and by extension lying in their surveys? For example, every guy wishfully thinks that they were a ladies man so that in their mind, they inflate every female encounter they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:13 PM
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Exactly. What people say that they are attracted to and what they are actually attracted to a 2 completely different things. An extreme example of this is reflected in the porn people find themselves watching that I'm certain they wouldn't admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:09 PM
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Never have sex then. It's simple. That's how people who didn't have sex for thousands of years avoided having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:18 PM
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No actually they are nearly always an abusive asshole all of the time and she projects the idea of him being 'good sometimes' onto him. For example, if he doesn't show any emotions because he doesn't have any, she will think 'oh he must be so damaged that he's afraid to express them. Maybe if I love him enough he'll come around'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:24 AM
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Because when they start crying you feel the need to protect her because you know that she's having trouble dealing with her emotions and it's not her fault. I agree there's nothing endearing about the angry phase when they smash your windshield. But I just don't get how anyone would actively seek out an abusive asshole since all you get is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:53 AM
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I definitely have social anxiety but the alcohol helped a lot. However I'm introverted too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:26 AM
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What is so endearing about an abusive asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:24 AM
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Ok lets just assume that you in particular haven't chosen an abusive asshole. Why do you think some women are drawn to that behaviour? As a guy, I can see why some guys are drawn to the 'crazy' type of girls since they can be alluring, endearing and sometimes sexually adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:18 AM
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Well I was trying to but you kept saying that I had some sort of ulterior motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:10 AM
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No but look, there are two separate stereotypes. Guys that end up dating the 'crazy girl' and the equivalent for women is that they date the asshole. I'm not talking about girls dating a guy who is generally nice but has their mean moments (like everyone), but some do actively choose to date a complete abusive asshole which confuses a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:04 AM
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Look, I just wanted to get insight into how females think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:56 AM
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but nope...the biggest one is pregnancy 😒 But not as big as the need to have sex. Interestingly, where I live there was a backlash by feminists over why condoms were free but tampons weren't in university. They could have made a reasonable case of why tampons should be free, which I would agree with, but they attacked the fact that condoms were and tried to play it as 'guys having sex is more important than any other female issue'. In reality, if they were so scared about pregnancy, condoms bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:54 AM
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I don't think it was a stupid question. If you asked me, why I would continue having sex with a girl that was mean to me, I wouldn't be able to even physically go through the process because I would be too upset to even get aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:41 AM
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Why did you still have sex with your bf's if they were mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:31 AM
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It'll be interesting to see how this develops into the future. There's a joke confessions page for my old college and 2 or 3 years ago, all the stories used to be about peoples graphic hook-up stories, and around last year, that seemed to all die down. So I'm not sure if that's a reflection on hook-up culture in college or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:17 AM
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They listen to their crush's sob story about how her boyfriend is mean late into the night until the boyfriend texts her "wan sum fuk?" at 2 AM. So is this how your relationships were before you were 21?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:10 AM
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I mean, I know you were trying to be clever with that remark, but that literally is how things worked for a long time (no sex before marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:08 AM
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Getting pregnant from a ONS is actually a much easier problem to deal with than getting pregnant in a marriage. I can see why it could be actually because if he wants to keep the baby and you don't or vice-versa things can get pretty heated in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:03 PM
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Just out of interest, what age do guys stop doing that? I can't imagine it being older than 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:55 PM
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Not really. Because the consequences of getting pregnant from a ONS are different from the consequences of getting pregnant from your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:50 PM
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You can't possibly put a social rule in place that everyone agrees on or adheres to. You can. Look there's a reason why it's socially acceptable to hit on a girl in a nightclub and not in your office: that's a social rule. I agree, not everyone will adhere to it but being shunned for hitting on a girl in your office is enough of a deterrent for the majority of guys. Another example is that it's a social rule that you shouldn't cheat on your partner once you've established and agreed to a romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:23 PM
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Everyone's different. There needs to be social rules that everyone agrees on otherwise you get the whole situation of 'she not really interested in me because she didn't put out on the 1st date' or 'I have to put out on the first date otherwise he go for someone who will put out'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:12 PM
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They listen to their crush's sob story about how her boyfriend is mean late into the night until the boyfriend texts her "wan sum fuk?" at 2 AM. This is what gets men red pilled. Just from this statement, the only conclusion to be drawn is that the easiest way to get regular sex from a girl is to be mean to her then ask her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:09 PM
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That's true. But discussing abortion with a random hook-up compared to your wife is a different matter. Your wife not having sex with you is one of the biggest rejections you can face and you're constantly being reminded of it since you have to see her everyday in your bed. It's so convenient for her to have sex with you yet she still won't (look at the dead bedrooms subreddit). Meanwhile, not having casual sex is easy. All you have to do is delete tinder and that part of your life disappears an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:01 PM
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No sex means no risk of pregnancy. There I solved your problem on how not to be scared of getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:25 PM
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No. Well then you can't be that scared about getting pregnant...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:10 PM
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This is why casual sex was so discouraged before the advent of the pill I think that there are many other reasons as well why casual sex was discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:04 PM
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It seems that bluepill and redpill are only categories men seem to fall into. I never see women being referred to as being redpilled or bluepilled. Do you think that there's a reason behind this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:47 PM
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These seem like all reasonable concerns unlike some of the other stuff on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:45 PM
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If I’ve vetted my partner well enough ​ Even worse; am I the side chick to a guy who’s actually married? I'm sorry but you must not be vetting your partners out at all if you don't know if he's secretly married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:43 PM
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Stop having sex then if you're that scared to get knocked up. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:40 PM
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I completely agree with this. If they were paralysed by their fear of pregnancy, they clearly wouldn't partake in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:38 PM
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Yes, men are incapable of understand the fear that women fear over pregnancy I think that this is just an excuse. If they were so scared, casual sex wouldn't be as popular as it is and often it is facilitated by women. In the same manner, if men are so scared about their partner trying to trap them in a relationship by getting pregnant, it's easy just to not have sex with her and find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:35 PM
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Why can't women wait until they are ready to deal with the consequences of pregnancy before they have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:32 PM
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What kind of love is conditional on how good you are at having sex with her the first time? The fake love where all you're feeling is the effects of the hormones released during sex. If you use that as a selection mechanism for relationships, you're essentially creating an incentive structure for character not being any where near an important trait. Rewarding men with poor character creates a problem for everyone. Firstly, you increase the mans social value, confidence and arrogance allowing hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:00 PM
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I'm not sure what you have against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:52 AM
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No I'm talking about girls that saw no value and most of the time ignored me suddenly started talking to me and taking an interest in my life. The neutral thing to do was to continue not talking to me rather than make an effort to know me better. 2 of them went as far as to insult the girl I was seeing multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:08 AM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:50 AM
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Reading this made me completely give up on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:33 AM
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Is it dominance in bed or dominance in social interaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:13 AM
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Seriously it's such a huge red pill that the increased female attention actually makes you upset more than happy. I remember when I was seeing a girl in college and suddenly at least 4 of my friends suddenly started paying way more attention to me even if it wasn't romantically. Then as soon as I stopped seeing her, it nearly all died out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:03 AM
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Being socially anxious is a surefire way for a guy never to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:57 PM
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Now an introverted guy, who tf would be inviting him to parties? A guy standing around in a corner at a party is seen as a creep. I'm introverted and I've been to all the parties that I've wanted to go to (which for me is about once every month in college). But that was a few years ago and I did used to be very social after a few drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:56 PM
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Well mostly women who were involved in STEM. But tbf, I find most men in STEM boring too. However, some women who have gone into the arts are still somewhat interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 08:07 PM
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Honestly, being awkward for a girl is often endearing to a guy and being chubby can often be more attractive (thick).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:38 PM
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awkward geeky, chubby girls that got rejected in high school (cough, me) apparently don’t exist. The thing is that as soon as they get attention from someone they perceive to be more attractive than you, their ego can't take it and they start assuming that they are a 10 and you're holding them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:20 PM
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You won't see complaining the men who have always had success with the ladies, it's the others who do. You do though. A large percentage of the MGTOW people have been burned by women and most of them have been reasonably successful in attracting women otherwise they wouldn't have had those experiences. ​ Most men cannot and don't have the "messing around" phase. This is actually interesting. I agree with you but I've noticed that most women don't have the phase in high school where they just get…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:16 PM
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What are they messaging you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:08 PM
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women would also loose any mystery or allure This. The only reason I was attracted romantically to women in my adolescent years was because of this. Naturally after getting through my early 20s, women just don't have that allure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:52 PM
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I think what many are really saying is that they are jealous that when he was young, and she was young and hotter, she wouldn’t fuck him. Do guys actually think this though? I remember in high school, I didn't even get as far as envisioning myself being sexually active and I was moreso interested having my first kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:48 PM
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Just out of interest by hitting you up on facebook, do you mean that they are just adding you as a friend, or are they actively messaging you and trying to flirt with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:46 PM
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Most men who aren't promiscuous aren't just because they don't have the opportunity to be. As an adolescent, I rejected nearly all sexual advances by women (even when they were naked in my bed and asking me to). Granted i didn't have that many advances but in all of them I could have easily gotten laid. To actually go through with it you have to be a) emotionally healthy and b) low in neuroticism. Perhaps you're right, that most men do share your point of view, but there are certainly men who's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:28 PM
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I think incels more so want the validation from women which porn doesn't satiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:20 PM
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It does if you’re addicted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:36 PM
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Because men largely vary. There's a huge selection of men who envisaged their life with one girl that they fell in love with and married. Yes, men get sexually aroused by most women but it takes a very particular type of personality (essentially just interested in fun and impulsive pleasure) to actually go through and be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:57 AM
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I think this has completely changed because of porn. I doubt most men even get aroused by women in real life since their exact fantasies are replicated whenever they want through porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:05 AM
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Guys with sexual options are just as picky with relationships as women are with sex. This is a myth in the same vein that guys who have oneitis only have that because they have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:03 AM
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Sounds like both sides were salty and acted on the very natural human desire to seek retribution for their pain For a male, it is like you pointed out retribution however it's not for females who have clearly moved on since they did the dumping. The female does it because she feels like she 'deserves' better and that she shouldn't sacrifice her future social encounters over feeling bad over a man not on par with how she perceives her value to be. She also wants to distance herself away from him …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:37 AM
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i come from a family of female scientists, doctors and coders. with all the men in similar jobs too. The way you constructed this sentence implies that you were fighting the generalisations you assumed I was carrying. You specifically defined the jobs you thought that I would think to be male oriented as being held by females indicating that those jobs are usually generalised to be occupied by males.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:16 AM
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If I had one of many pieces of advice to give to my former self when I struggled to articulate an opinion, I think the most important thing is to not laugh at jokes you don't find funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:05 AM
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I mean surely that's how you even define the difference between a male and female. You generalise their typical behaviour or physical traits otherwise we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between men and women instinctively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:48 AM
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What do you mean by that in reference to my original post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:44 AM
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Agreed but ruining someones Bar Mitzvah party to rant about gender politics when no one said anything to do with the subject is also a dick move. Now if someone was ruining a mothers gender reveal party by saying that something like there's no such thing as biological sex, then you should speak up because if you don't, it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:44 AM
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But there's a time and place for it. If at a wedding celebration you suddenly start ranting about gender politics, you're kind of a dick because you're a) going to take the attention away from the bride and groom and b) you're going to ruin the whole mood. In that setting, if someone says something you clearly disagree with and you believe to be morally wrong, you can just roll your eyes and not talk to that person for the duration of the event. At work it's completely different and voicing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:38 AM
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I'm not sure about that. The majority of women exhibit that behaviour meanwhile only a minority of men do and women actively reward the men that act in that manner. They see it as him 'standing his ground' or they falsely equate that to being assertive or dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:29 AM
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I think that's a different situation. I'm assuming your bf was acting out of anger and resentment that you broke up with him. Meanwhile, I was talking about girls who think they have to overcome an imagined lack of confidence causing them to feel shitty when in actuality, they feel shitty because they've acted in a terrible manner and are unable to recognise that because they've been told that they are a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 10:03 PM
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Okay I agree to a certain extent. There's a time and place to voice your opinion and in most social settings it just ruins the whole mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 09:54 PM
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You can not be PC yet still be extremely articulate and presentable. Most men famous for their intellect aren't PC at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:27 PM
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It appears to be more prominent in college educated women. Do you think that it's due to the views college environments encourage or some other reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:26 PM
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Women always want to appear good or morally good, so they will say what’s pc. It's interesting (and perhaps sad) to see that the women who aren't PC in public, usually don't have any female friends. However, nearly all women aren't PC in private in their own friendship groups; there's just a distinction between those who are in public and those who aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:21 PM
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Liberal arts fields are only useful for intelligent (say an IQ of >140) individuals. However yes, most liberal arts graduates do not have that and are mostly filled with posers unless you're in a top programme. Similarly, those entering STEM fields are mostly useless (as someone who studied a STEM subject) unless their IQ is exceptionally high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:22 PM
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So it's particularly to get some anonymity while using OLD or from random work colleagues.?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:58 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do people they know DM them or is it moreso from strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:57 PM
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I've never seen an average woman's DMs. But surely making your account private would help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:55 PM
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Just out of interest what does gossip amongst female friends look like when they are talking about someone that they are about to drop out of their friendship circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:33 PM
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Lol this is true. They only love those scumbag men if they are strong enough or crazy enough to be violent towards other men to protect her. For example, if he's not afraid to use a knife or even just threaten to use one because he's crazy or if he's just physically more muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:26 PM
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However, women tend to have very close friendships with the women whom they do get along with. I'm not sure if it's a very close friendship rather more of a safety net. If one of those friends' social value drops, they are very quick to discard her. Meanwhile with guys, they will often try and build each other up or at the very least not really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:24 PM
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It's an easy way to find out who you don't want in your life if a girl suddenly starts treating you worse because of your social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:18 PM
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If I wanted close female friends I would have to change my lifestyle and invest more in social media, show off social value online, and be in constant communication with other girls, that stuff is just exhausting imo. This is the part that I've noticed amongst females that I used to know as well; they all roughly have the same social media presence which wasn't the case in the past. Things seemed to change around 2016 where women were using social media to select their friends as well as their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:05 PM
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If two people are wearing affordable-but-nice clothing, the female version will cost more. I don't think this is true. All affordable mens clothing is usually in one cut and one style that only fits a man with a particular build. Women have a variety of styles and fits they can choose from at any price range; men have to pay more to get any resemblance of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:45 PM
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That was your claim. My claim was that they are the selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:40 PM
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They are. But obviously we can’t always get what we want. If women get into a relationship with an abusive guy, they’ve done a poor job of selecting since most likely there were other guys and she selected that particular one. If she’s not attracted to those guys that’s perfectly fine, she should have enough integrity to stay alone until she finds a guy she does like who isn’t abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:23 PM
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In that case, if they can’t get the guy they want, they should stay single instead of running another guys life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 07:18 PM
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Stephanie by a large margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 11:23 AM
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Women are the selectors period. They get the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 11:22 AM
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Lesson #12: Women like men who have options. Honestly this is just if he's perceived to have options. Even if you do have options and then you act needy towards her because you have an insecure attachment style, she's going to think you're acting that way because you have no options. It's quite cruel when you are essentially being punished for how badly you were treated that caused that attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:04 AM
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Umm? Isn't it obvious? I want my partner to love me more than she's ever loved anyone otherwise I'm just 2nd best. I'd rather be alone than be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:36 PM
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What if her former lovers awakened hungers and passions that you couldn’t possibly rouse? That's my point. She obviously liked her ex more than me so essentially I'm just being used for something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:19 PM
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Because if she's done something with someone else that she doesn't do with me, it's a sure fire way to find out that she doesn't love me as much. Even if she says 'she was afraid to say no to her previous partner', that essentially means that she respected him more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:10 PM
0

The only relationships that last are when the guy doesn't really love the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:05 PM
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The effect of social media is that it makes women select men to how they are perceived on social media compared to what they are actually like in real life. Even if women know that his social media presence is fake, they will still go after him because the status the man has gotten from being fake is still valid. Also, seeing something on the internet gives it a credibility even if deep down you know it can't be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:03 PM
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I think it corrupts you from getting the most healthy love. I would argue that if you can't fall in love before having sex, you're already too damaged because that would indicate that the feeling of 'love' is solely due to the hormones released during sex and not because of other traits. Also, what kind of definition of love involves how well a guy can have sex on his first time with you as a criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:59 AM
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Often, because they have so little experience, they fall in love with their partner over time since they are their first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:54 AM
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I don't think anyone who gets girls through their social media is a strong man since it's easy to lie and those low in neuroticism benefit from it a lot more than those high in that trait. Plus, it's essentially a facade and will eventually deteriorate. Presentation is important but weak and strong can only really be defined on how you are in real life because that ultimately is what decides the relationship. A strong man is a leader with independent well thought out thoughts, not resentful, has…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:49 AM
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if you ever act weak around her, she will puke and lose all interest in you. This is enough to give a guy minor PTSD. It happens so quickly and your entire life and world view will shatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:13 AM
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The important word is perceive. It doesn't actually matter what you do as long as women project that image on to you. For them good-looking=interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:08 AM
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"just trying to live my best life" I always found this phrase funny because every person who says this seems to be in some sort of emotional mess. It's like when people write in their instagram bio that their life isn't as good as their photos or something to that effect. They all seem to have a terrible life from their photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:07 AM
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i.e. there's always been "players" who don't commit, weak men who women don't want, How is being a player being a strong man? Seriously, it doesn't matter how strong or weak you are anymore; there are plenty of weak men who get girls solely due to their social media presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:04 AM
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Men lose all their friends after they leave school&college. This is interesting. I've found that to be the case also.
/r/MGTOW18/09/20 06:44 PM
1

Were you given any warning about the effects of birth control before taking it? Or was it regarded as being as normal as taking a vitamin tablet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:26 AM
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Easiest way to avoid the first situation is to make yourself busy which means working as hard as you can at your career. However the first step means finding yourself a career that you're sufficiently interested in. That way, you won't feel the need to text her during the day, when you come back from work, you'll have something to talk to her about and b) if you're rising up the work hierarchy she's going to be even more attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:36 AM
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There are two types of men when it comes to socialising; one that would rather have terrible company to avoid being alone, and one that would rather be alone than with terrible company (in terms of friendships). Assuming they both have an abundance of options, most would agree that the former is undesirable for a whole host of reasons. Noone has a problem with people exercising their power of choice, what they do hate is people not playing the game fairly. If as a woman, you chose a brutal toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:33 AM
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If women are having casual sex with multiple men, they aren't fulfilling their responsibility of selecting. What's expected of them is to select a single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:24 AM
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Interesting. So how they looked on paper took precedence over everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:22 AM
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What's the point? If that's all it takes for your partner to leave you, it wasn't exactly a strong relationship to begin with. If you have to lift and exercise hard everyday just to maintain a relationship where the girl doesn't even like you that much anyway, you might as well just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:19 AM
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Or the woman could just work on herself to become more attractive? Isn't that the advice you usually give to men but can't take it when given to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:22 PM
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Maybe that's what women want then? If you're too eager, she get's turned off. Thats the first step. If you don't want sex all the time, she'll think your 'gay' because a woman won't admit to herself that it may be because she's unattractive. All that leaves room for is guys that are not really into her and just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:11 PM
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Measured unavailability was the key. This. As soon as you catch the feels and become too available, it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:09 PM
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I think most girls know that there life isn't as good as it was in college. They are just trying to find a new direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:00 PM
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I think everyones life in their mid-20s sucks. The only people who it doesn't suck for is guys that have found a meaningful career that they can work towards; they'll be starting off at the bottom but at least they have purpose in their life. For mid-20s girls, I've noticed that they become extremely lost at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:23 PM
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This sounds like an outright lie/exaggeration unless you had 2 women taking your class. There weren't that many at all to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:22 AM
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This is true. If you feel in your gut that something is off you need to leave as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:28 AM
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What women say and how they act are two completely separate things. It's actually very scary to see how some feminists drop all their dogma for a guy who is blatantly sexist just because he's attractive. They view it as flirting or, 'oh he's just misunderstood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:23 AM
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Only 7% of women have Tinder. Are you sure about this? In university, I found every woman that was taking my course on tinder. Yes if you take all women from 18-80, I would expect only 7% to be on there but if you're 18-27, I imagine a lot higher percentage of your demographic are on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:14 AM
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It doesn't matter anymore. Thankfully I'm over it. However I don't think I'll ever be able to have sex without getting extremely upset or have a healthy sex life or relationship again. What happened in that last week was horrible and has changed all my social interactions including friendships most likely forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:51 PM
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Your link proves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 04:07 PM
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I don't know, I'm just insecure and burned after being broken up with after I lost my virginity. I wasn't even old: I just didn't realise how much experience other girls had at that age. If you're a guy and you spent your youth not chasing girls, you're going to be inexperienced. Or maybe you were blue-pilled and was waiting to be in love to have sex. Either way you're going to be horrendous your first time and there's very little you can do to improve that because your just going keep going thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 04:04 PM
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or better at sex, except they absolutely can A women will not have sex with you again if you're bad the first time hence their is no chance you can improve. I'm not blaming them (unless they make fun of the guy), it's just that after a certain age, it's very difficult or impossible to hold down the interest of your partner because of it. ​ We're not talking about no sex at all. Even if that was the case, some people want relationships but no sex. Okay, but if a girl had sex and initiated with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:34 AM
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I'm sorry but what is the point in this post? To upset men who know that they'll never be wanted by women just because of their facial structure? Or to gloat that you're one of those guys that women want? If women aren't planning on initiating sex with their partner, they shouldn't get into that relationship in the first place, instead of blaming their partner that they aren't attractive enough while secretly hoping for someone else. It's actually very cruel for women to do that. Most men would …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:09 AM
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People in their mid-20s are beginning to wane off of social media however the problem is, that they don't know how to form friendships without it. I don't see many people meeting new people at that age anymore; they are just sticking to their pre-existing social groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:33 AM
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I mean if you stand up for yourself and do whatever you want as long as it isn't hurting anyone, surely that will benefit both of you; she'll find your assertiveness attractive and you'll be doing what you want. Plus, you'll be occupied in your hobbies which will put less strain on your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:29 AM
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I think it's clear that you're in the wrong here. Most guys would pass a 9/10 who's a complete trainwreck and abusive for a 7/10 caring and empathetic woman in regards to who they wanted to form a relationship with. A lot of men can't fall in love with the former type of woman no matter how hard they want to, yet they will easily fall for the second type. The first type usually get passed around by men and used unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:40 AM
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I am a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:13 AM
1

Wow, this is so true.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 09:08 AM
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I was trying to say that what you want out of life changes. Suddenly you don't want a new social structure: you just want to start a family with a girl and settle down. It's like at 21, having a hangover and missing a lecture is fine, but in your mid 20s, missing work because you're hungover is going to make you feel like you're wasting your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:27 AM
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Think how many women have sex with their husbands but talk to their friends about how much they hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:25 AM
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Telling a girl that you have a girlfriend is a sure fire way to make her attracted to you. It's actually quite disheartening when you see it. When you're in a relationship, girls will treat you so much better and suddenly you'll become 'interesting'. ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away.'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:24 AM
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5 girls he would pick the most attractive How do you define most attractive? Men and women don't love the same. Men aren't actively ranking females on looks and status and loving who they perceive to be at the top. Yes, men have their own metric for attraction but who they fall in love with is a lot less shallow. Sex is a lot more shallow for guys however love and sex is largely separate for guys which is where the fallacy that guys are shallow when selecting relationships come from. Meanwhile, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:20 AM
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had nice clothes Most men have no aesthetic sense. They just pick what other people are wearing. It just comes across as them trying to hard. The people who dress well often are dressing how they want to dress. The people who follow the trends often look back on photos and think 'why the hell was I wearing that' since they've moved onto another trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:16 AM
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I don't think so. I think it favours average people. It's easy to form an active social life over going for a few drinks and watching baseball or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:12 AM
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good sign a guy can respect a woman for something other than just as a sex dispenser. Why is using a girl as a 'sex dispenser' not respecting women? That's essentially a FWB relationship. Being disrespectful is more in the lines of actively being sexist; using a girl for sex and being honest about it is not disrespectful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:10 AM
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This seems like good advice for people in college but after that, I doubt most people are interested in having an active social life. You're in a different stage of your life and you'd rather spend time with people you already know and just 'chill out' rather than actively going out. By around your mid 20s, most people have already found their friends and become pretty set in their own ways. Plus people seem to vet partners out through social media first which has it's own set of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:07 AM
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They are low value because anyone can do their job, it's just they got lucky. Also they are essentially leeches; they haven't produced anything of value on their own and rely on other HVM to create businesses that are worth something so that they can trade their stocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:33 AM
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Also, i read that the more successful you become, you don't feel that different about yourself because the people you start comparing yourself changes. I think whether you think you are a HVM or LVM is dictated on how high you are in trait neuroticism. Unfortunately many people view your value on how valuable you yourself think you are i.e. how you act. So a highly neurotic valuable male is going to automatically be dismissed as a LVM by the opposite sex (women aren't very good at judging value …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:28 PM
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not being creative To me anyone who is not creative (true creativity which is very rare and not just the copycats) is automatically a LVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:24 PM
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I agree with you original post but I think the disagreements come in because people view the world differently. You can see this by the way they react to celebrities. Some people don't care if they saw a celebrity meanwhile some people want to associate with them and get a picture with them even if they don't know what they are famous for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:16 PM
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You think we don't think HVM when we see the Wall St broker See, I and I assume many people don't think this. A wall st broker has completely different interests to me and his value structure is completely different to mine. To me he's just a sheep with a lot of money. The same with an famous sports player. Even if they're at the top of their game, I still don't really don't care and they are still LVM in my eyes (unless they are useful in some other way). Everyone has a different value structur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:13 PM
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I don't think it's bizarre; it was primarily a question to see how much the integrity of your partner matters compared to his salary and also to see if the specifics of his job mattered (such as if you find it interesting or if it's something you think is pointless since that indicates if your value structures are aligned or if there are too many differences to make the relationship work [i.e. if you're into humanitarian work, I doubt you would find a banker attractive]). To me, any dishonourabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:12 AM
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Do you care about the job he has? Would you rather him doing something honourable for low pay or something dishonourable for high pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:36 AM
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What about people who are ambitious but they sacrifice pay? Some jobs are low pay simply because they can afford to be because they offer other perks such a sense of duty i.e. government jobs or even jobs in academia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:12 PM
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I think it's because the things women find attractive about men can't really be replicated in porn (influence, charisma etc.) meanwhile the things men find sexually attractive about women (visual) can easily be found in porn and are often better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:21 AM
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Why? Sex literally lasts less than half an hour a day for a guy. Plus once he's finished he won't care about sex for a while in the same vein as after you've eaten a meal, all you feel is being less hungry. After you've had sex, you won't care about what happened during the sex or how attractive your partner was or something great that she did. You'll feel the same as you did before just not horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:16 AM
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I mean you shouldn't need to pick anything. It should be completely natural. In college, I don't know a single relationship that formed other than by two people in close proximity that just fell for each other. There was no weighing up options etc. Granted, relationships change as you get older, but if you feel like you can't choose between two people, you probably don't like either of them that much anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:07 AM
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Life for the vast majority of people is a series of compromises Guys just don't see women that way. When they are in love they certainly don't think they are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:45 PM
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I'm seeing this too but I still think they use it as a selection mechanism for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:43 PM
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I don't think this is true. Men who are lonely and attention starved tend to just not bother with socialising, or they aren't liking random hot girls' photos but rather the girl who looks caring etc. because that's the type of attention they are desperate for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:42 PM
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If an average women has 500 likes, it is only logical that she would select the top 20 men from those likes. This is black and white thinking though. How does she decide who the top 20 men are? Just on looks, money or something else? Even then things get complicated. If you have the same haircut, like the same sports, dress the same as every other guy and follow every single stereotype, of course she's going to pick the guy who's the best version of that stereotype. However if you're unique, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:38 PM
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This is the thing that got me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:47 PM
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I was just talking about your 3rd point. And no. But if a guy did it, it's unacceptable and almost predatory. Any person, a guy or girl at 22 is still maturing; at around 25 it's a different story however. There's a bigger difference between 21 and 25 compared to 25 and say 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:21 AM
2

How did women change towards you once you got jacked compared to lean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:08 AM
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Males don't receive emotional support (particularly unconditional love) from any female but their mother (sometimes). This is such a horrible realisation when it happens to you, usually after your first relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:03 AM
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I dont see what the big deal is most people men and women have different standards for who they would just sleep with vs who they would be with longterm. The difference is, you're rewarding dishonourable men with sex further making them more toxic because you've validated them and that behaviour pattern. Sex is never casual, it's one of the most serious things you can do; if it was not, there wouldn't be such a huge debate in modern culture about consent. I understand that maybe women and men vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:01 AM
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3). Maturity isn’t about making up for attractiveness. 22 year old guys don’t have any money. What woman wants a guy with no money? Sugar mamas? Most women don't actually care about money at 22. They're either in graduate school or they're a year out of their undergraduate where they're just settling into their first job. Women care more about charisma at that age I'd say. It's only in their mid-20s when they start using money as the metric for how successful a guy is. But, i'd rather a woman us…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:53 AM
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Self-aware women who can emotionally read a situation I'm fine with i.e. the women who can tell the difference between arrogance and confidence. On the other hand, I dislike women who always side with the person that's most popular, in the same way I would dislike men who do that. Also, on a personal level, I'm not really friends with women anymore because our drives and priorities are usually completely different after around 23/24.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:00 PM
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It's different though. Anything that signals that the man can no longer protect the woman e.g. not being able to stand up for himself, will immediately cause her to lose attraction. I can't think of a specific thing that causes men to lose attraction that quickly unless she's committed something on the level of a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:59 PM
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This is something that you hopefully realise as you get older.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 06:19 PM
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5 is an important one. Your friends share a similar value structure to you, that's why they're your friends.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 05:57 PM
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The problem is that out of those lions, only a few will become extremely successful and the rest will be worse off compared to the sheep. However if you're a lion, you can't exactly switch it off.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 05:43 PM
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Well then she was never really that attracted to you in the first place then. Something specific happened that caused it. ​ No offense to you but if a guy really hooks in a girl, she will come back to him over and over . There are certain thing that can immediately turn her off a guy even if she was hooked initially. The reason why she goes back to those guys is because she wants his attention. If that guy suddenly acted needy, wanted to be coddled constantly, couldn't stand up for himself I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:28 AM
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So it wasn't about the specifics of the girl, it was just about her being hot. It should be easy to move on then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 02:53 AM
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Give it time. I can guarantee that most of the time it's not about the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:47 AM
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I'm glad it happened when I was younger and not now when I'm in my mid 20s. Probably the biggest learning experience ever. Although the pain and bruise to the ego took forever to get over, I can guarantee that something like that won't happen again. I know now just to break up as soon as I see her losing the slightest bit of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:45 AM
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Because they think they can easily do better because of their inflated sense of self-worth when in reality the guy is better than them. Fixed it for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:36 AM
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It doesn't matter if the first man was top tier or not. As soon as she started casual dating multiple men (where there's not enough time to form a proper relationship), she'll just start comparing everyone to the projection of who she thought those guys were. It's a bit like social media. You don't even really know the people yet you're comparing your life to their highlight reel and what your life could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:34 AM
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It's actually very scary when you witness it. I can remember the first time a girl I was seeing lost attraction to me; it happened in the space of less than 5 mins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:31 AM
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I don't think this is true because even men with options find it hard to forget a particular girl from their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:29 AM
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and they're no longer respected for doing anything. I think this is because a lot of weak men are getting respectable jobs because university has given them a pass to essentially lift their position in the hierarchy dramatically. Also, a lot of those men have reached those positions through playing political games in the workplace rather than their competence. The only thing keeping them in that position is that there's nothing you can do nowadays to call someone out who's virtue signalling in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:27 AM
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I just don't understand what a woman can offer you in 2020 that you can't get from porn. Fine, I understand in college, that being with a girl is fun because socializing is so important at that age, but after 25, even most friendships start to dwindle since people start focussing more on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:02 AM
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Woman don't want to fuck random medicore men like the reverse. Well if they don't want that, most modern women should just stop being mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:42 AM
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Meeting through mutual friends is the only way to have a stable relationship in my opinion. If you meet online and the date doesn't go well, you can easily ghost them or whatever with no consequences. That is not true if you share mutual friends or are a part of the same friendship group. Before you even agree to go on a date, you'll be thinking about the consequences: if you act like a jerk to him, you're going to have to face your friends and possible lose them in the process so you'll think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:50 PM
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I phrased her since I can't find the exact quote; a lot of her interviews are behind a paywall. I did not know we accept this form of retardation on this sub. I knew a lot of men on here are mouth breathers, but not to the extent of taking such post seriously with no actual phrasing. Lol. ​ Did you deliberately change the word paraphrased to phrased in my quote? Guess you 'phrased' me too...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:27 AM
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When they are younger maybe but it's always the guy who's posing to be an artist i.e. the guy who's just rehashing what's already done. The true artist is always labelled as weird until he's famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:12 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:42 PM
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I think it could be because attractive women usually know that they are very attractive and don't have anything to prove. Meanwhile, most women find out how they fair by the attractiveness of the people that want to be with them. Very attractive girls in college tend to hookup just because it's part of the whole experience and it can be fun for them gossiping and talking with their friends about it. Middle of the road girls tend to hook up for an ego boost and to one up their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:42 PM
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but have never felt an urge to have sex with a specific person and have no need to have a person. Are you sure this isn't from watching to much porn? It can be hard to get aroused by people in real life if you're used to watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:39 PM
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Women feel insulted if a they are say a 7 It isn't dependent on what they are, it's dependent on what they think they are. ​ When a male 7 sees a female 6, it feels like easier chances and so men are fine with dating down. Men don't really think this. They don't rank order women around them like women do for men. What happens is he either thinks a girl is either attractive or not by if he's aroused or not. The only time men put a number on women is if she's a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:37 PM
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for them sex is a slightly riskier experience and they tend to be more selective of the partners they lay with. I don't think thats why they are more selective. If that were the case, they would vet their partners out more and not engage in casual sex. ​ Once they get stimulated in a certain way, their libido ramp up. I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:33 PM
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Also notable that more attractive women tend to have fewer sexual partners. This is interesting. I've noticed this too. Is this something that you read in a survey or is it just from observing the people around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:30 PM
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A lot of women are celibate on purpose for many months because they can't find someone who they thing are attractive enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:29 PM
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The reason why it bothers me is that girls don't judge the merit of something for themselves: rather, they rely on how much money/social status he has as an indicator for his ability level. If women judged ability on their opinion alone as the sole indicator, I would be perfectly okay with that. But the fact is that they rely more on external indicators. Take songwriters for example. There are different levels of lyric writing yet some women would rather a guy who had a hit single with a meaning…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 09:08 PM
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I don't think many guys are that bothered about how casual relationships are nowadays. What does bother them however is betrayal, specifically when they thought that being in a relationship intrinsically meant exclusivity and she ended up going off with another guy when he thought they were on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 09:04 PM
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Sorry, I didn't read his post. I was responding to your comment about exclusivity in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:57 PM
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Trust me, never assume anything in modern culture. If you're dating a girl and have both agreed to a relationship (which there really isn't any point unless you are planning to have kids, get married and start a family), your best option is to also specify exclusivity. Remember, some girls don't even classify oral sex as a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:48 PM
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When she tries to beta-fy him, it's a shit test. She's picking at him constantly and if she succeeds, her attraction vanishes almost instantly and if she can't beta-fy him, she'll still want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:38 PM
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Non-verbal communication is a lot more important to some degree. People can easily lie about loving you but their actions will say everything you need to know. Talking is for debating complex issues which shouldn't arise when you first start dating someone which is when hints and signs are used. Honestly, if she or he is using hints and signs, they probably are only playing with you. For most people, it's impossible to hide when you love someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:44 AM
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I'm saying that adolescent men go through another period of physical change where their face begins to look like that of an adult male (more chiselled features) meanwhile female adolescents just age with no other physical change (still soft features but just look older).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:10 AM
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if you don't have common values/goals, the relationship ISN'T going to work, no matter how amazing the sex is It's amazing that people have sex with people that don't even have the qualities to be considered their friend. ​ You don't need year long relationships to discuss values I think part of the problem is that each partner projects their ideal onto the person they are dating leading both parties to think that they are dating a person with the same values as them. Also the halo effect kicks …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:58 PM
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I think that it's been magnified in recent times more since a persons social status is a lot less defined by how that person acts over a lengthened period of time but rather how they are portrayed on social media. If you're constantly a dick to people in real life, noone in the past would want to be friends with you (unless those people were weak and you were extremely influential). Now, people judge your ability to influence by your social media so that as long as your social media image is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:45 PM
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There are plenty of men that have been claimed to have slept with a female celebrity but they all seem to fall under one category: a sexual harassment allegation filed by the woman where the man has significant social influence. But also, a man is generally only believed to have slept with a celebrity if that celebrity verifies the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:37 PM
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I know but I was making a point about the people who say that about the internet in general
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:27 PM
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The only instance I can see marriage being a benefit is if you want kids, as it provides security. I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:12 PM
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The kind of men who can get fabulous celerity woman to sleep with them don't waste their time on reddit; This is interesting because if you don't spend any time on the internet nowadays, you will essentially have no life. No social media, no job, all your friends will have forgotten about you, no dating opportunities etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:10 PM
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Just out of interest, what's your impression of the UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:16 AM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:05 AM
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Okay, I'll give you the benefit of doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:50 AM
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I think it's inevitable and unavoidable. It's the reason why women treat attractive and unattractive men completely different. They project all these honourable traits onto the guy before they've even said a single word. Guys are guilty of it too. When they see a lady that has feminine features, they automatically assume she is empathetic and caring. ​ Is there way for them to understand without projecting? Deliberately dress badly with unkempt hair and stubble and see how quickly she acts like …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:48 AM
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He's most likely not those things. It's often the halo effect and you projecting those attributes onto him because he's physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:33 AM
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What really opened my eyes was the realization that when women talk about men, they are only referring to the few HVMs and immediate male relatives/close friends they care about. They other 99% of men in the world are invisible and of no concern to them. Honestly, it doesn't really bother me much anymore (unless women use it as a political lever in a workplace by saying that all men are better off then all women) however it did for a while. I'm not a HVM but women have been nice to me specifical…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:32 AM
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Locker room talk is just slang for men talking about their sexual conquests. It's not limited to in a locker room.... ​ We are not less guilty than women when it comes to these immature value systems persisting into adulthood That's why I said that men often become self aware and realise they participated in that because they were insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:18 AM
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It's because women are terrified that they might actually be as unattractive as the LVM (which would be signalled by the LVM associating with them) so they distance themselves away from them as a defence mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:06 AM
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As a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:59 AM
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I think the UK is different because there really isn't any opportunities available in terms of career prospects post university. In the US, there are so many careers available and experiences to be had but everything is so stagnant in the UK. There are so many independent businesses and restaurants in the US meanwhile everything in the UK is just the same chain over and over again. There is nothing to be ambitious about there. That's reflected in the dating scene. Most girls on OLD essentially a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:58 AM
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My point was that when you say 'They can't understand women initially', I think it's because of them projecting an ideal onto the person not because they don't understand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:50 AM
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This is the fact that made me quite sad. Locker room talk really dies down after around the age of 21. At that age guys realise that they actually didn't enjoy talking about their conquests; it was just that it was a way to hide their insecurities. Meanwhile when girls gossip about all that stuff, they really set out to be mean to the guy or to one up their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:47 AM
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Masculinity can't be agreeable, supportive, and empathetic? It can be but women by large aren't attracted to that so that behaviour doesn't perpetuate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:52 PM
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It's not that, it's just most women and men project an ideal onto the person they are dating at first. They call it the honeymoon period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:50 PM
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Women want top positions in the corporate world yet can’t pay for their own food? Only a minority of women want this yet they are the most vocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:47 PM
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It's also because, how do you measure a successful women? The metrics are completely different. All it takes is someone who is caring in their attitude, friendly and has a positive impact on her community. Money or career success never comes into it. Women complain that men have low standards (and that's true for sex), but for a fulfilling relationship most women nowadays cannot offer anything that guys fall in love with. There's a minority of women that men fall head over heels for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:45 PM
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I think because most guys on here don't interact with that many people in real life. That's not an insult but just the way the world is changing. You can't be sexually harassing if you don't even interact with any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:41 PM
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It completely depends on how you define successful which does vary from person to person. Is a STEM graduate from a not well known college more successful than an english graduate from Yale? Is a law graduate from a random university more successful than a maths graduate who scraped a pass from Harvard? Also, I do think that the majority view success solely in terms of money, however is former president Obama less successful than any of the other billionaires just because he doesn't have as much…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:38 PM
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Doing a PhD in literature may bring you joy, but most people who aim for that are screwed for twenty years after doing that. Just out of interest, what to those students who study the humanities end up doing for 20 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:09 PM
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It is just a trap, a overpriced party. Just for the social life it's worth it and the options for development. And plus you get a degree out of it for very little work unless you're in an ivy league or top 20 school.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:03 PM
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No because men and women view sex differently. Like it or not, women are the selectors. Who they select rewards that type of behaviour. That's why sex is such a big deal. You're effectively rewarding the parts of the world you want to see and it's natural people will get angry if you reward dishonourable men. Imagine how you would feel if your colleague took credit for your work, got a raise and you boss verbally rewarded him. You would get angry too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:50 PM
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It's interesting how in misandrist women, it's usually the opposite. They feel entitled and their self-confidence is usually quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:45 PM
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You seem pretty self aware which is a good thing. ​ Because we enjoy eachothers company more so than other ppl. That’s all love is, a strong bond. I guess people are just temperamentally different. Like what you described is what I would say is a friend but my love life is non-existent so who knows. But I know for a fact, many women do not like their husbands but if you asked if they loved them, they would say yes. I guess these things are complicated like you suggested and that the only way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:56 AM
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Just because a relationship was 'tradcon' doesn't mean you fell in love with each others characters. Plus a 1 year is significantly less than a 6 year relationship especially when you are older. ​ Nah I started my relationship looking for a fuck Buddy, we ended up falling in love. How do you know it's 'love' and not just due to the hormones released during sex? That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:13 AM
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It's actually interesting (as a guy) to watch how other guys interact around other guys compared with one on one. Some suddenly start wanting to dominate etc. and once you spot that's how a lot of interactions work, you kind of become more reserved and confident in some sort of way. As for your comment about women, I agree. Also, most women are actually really bad at picking up on the subtle social signals between men; most men can tell when another man is either a) arrogant or b) confident howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:27 AM
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It's amazing that people have the energy to cheat after the age of 25. Yes, perhaps when you're 22, but all the mystery and excitement of relationships mostly goes during your mid-20s. You'd rather focus on your career or just spend your nights relaxing by yourself or with a couple of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:16 AM
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the only loyal man is the one without options This is the sad reality of what people think nowadays. I think it's because the timeline of most modern relationships is to have sex very early on with someone you don't know, and then confuse the chemicals released during sex as 'love'. Of course, if that's how the foundation of relationships are formed, the only loyal man is the one without options because you're just going to fall for the next girl who's equally or more physically attractive. Howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:14 AM
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Lol this is true. But sometimes it can be because of an insecure attachment style. You might by more attractive than your partner, but once that insecurity kicks in and you start simping, she's going to think you're less attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:24 PM
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who has boundaries and doesn't simply give her everything she says she wants all the time. I think this naturally happens with time. In your first relationship, most men will do this but after a while you just don't care and realise that you have to focus on yourself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:19 PM
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Dumb Joeys who just want titties and beer are another matter Sorry but even 'intellectual, well read, and driven' guys like that if they are honest with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:18 PM
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Most of those guys are posers anyway. I agree that women tend to pick guys with stereotypical interests but the guys who act like they are intellectuals are just doing it out of insecurity or they are trying to impress the girl. Nearly every guy likes at least one stereotypical thing whether that's Netflix or Dominoes pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 08:16 PM
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I think so. You don't really hear anyone talking about hanging out with their tinder dates. Those relationships are mostly just about having sex and leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:05 AM
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Okay, we agree there. But it really depends a lot on the person. Someone might not value a successful businessman as much as a firefighter or someone doing some sort of humanitarian work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:47 AM
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At 16 or 17, going on adventures is dating for a lot of people. But in college, you're basically just hanging out in each others dorms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:37 AM
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Early college is 18 year olds which is still very young. A lot haven't had a relationship before and are still trying to understand a) themselves and b) their peers and how to navigate social relationships. I can understand that later on in college it's different however early on, a lot of them are falling for their roommates and are not sure what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:27 AM
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Madonna whore This is not the definition of a madonna whore complex. It has nothing to do with dating tatics. It's a phycological condition where a man cannot get aroused (even if he desperately wants to) by a loving partner yet can easily by someone he doesn't love/cannot love. It's a terrible thing for guys to experience and needs to stop being thrown around like it's something every guy goes through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:22 AM
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As someone who's experienced being in a top 10 school and an okay school, I didn't actually care about anyones educational background while I was there and after I left. Plus, I don't think whether or not you're 'high value' (I hate that term but for sake of argument I'll use it) is dictated by which school you went to, rather the earning or social potential of the degree you chose. Plus I do think that only a small minority of women view the whole process of dating as trying to 'lock down a hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:18 AM
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I mean dating is different to a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:40 AM
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I mean, they can date if they want to but they are at completely different stages of their life. Your average 18 year old is going to be interested in clubbing etc. I mean if you're 30 in a club for college students, you're most likely going to feel a) completely out of place and b) wanting to be anywhere else but there. The stuff a 25 year old is interested in, a 35 year old is most likely going to be too if they have similar personalities. Honestly, if you're 18-21 and in college, I doubt you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:08 AM
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Don't women choose men who are older anyway? By like 2 to 4 years seems to be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 03:41 AM
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Oh my bad. Do you think part of the reason why that age is attractive is because they are often more hopeful instead of older people and that’s part of the attraction too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 03:09 AM
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No. Attraction for a relationship is a lot more than sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 03:05 AM
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This is just not true. Yes they may be sexually attracted to more girls in that age bracket compared to their age bracket but it gets to a point where there's too much of a gap to even relate in anyway to that person. I would argue that even a 23 year old dating an 18 year old is to big of a gap. Although as you get older, a gap matters less and after 25 it's not nearly as relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:57 AM
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I didn't really notice any hypergamous behaviour in high school. Nor did I in the first 2 years of college except amongst a small amount of women who were clearly arrogant and thought their value was way higher than in actually was. I did notice hypergamous behaviour in my 3rd year of college however and that pretty much continued a couple of years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:54 AM
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If she does less for you sexually than she did with a previous partner, she's not really into you. That's all I'm trying to say. And for the most part, most sex goes like the stuff you see in the standard amateur porn (I'm talking about the vaginal intercourse and oral).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:22 PM
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Amature porn is realistic for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:17 PM
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This is not true. Some people are more observant than others. People hate posers and it's not because they are resentful that they can't be them, it's just that they disagree with their value structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:06 PM
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In modern times, this also includes trying to live up to the standards of pornography. Women don't have to live up to anything. They will happily do that for any guy that they are actually interested in. Porn just made it clear to guys that if she isn't doing what she's doing in porn, then she isn't really into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:02 PM
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I don't think a lot of men want women perse; they want the validation. That's why some men get angry at women. They see several cases of them rewarding awful men with sex which inturn validates their behaviour and they see no problem with it. In the same way, you would get angry if your boss gave your colleague credit for your work. Most guys don't care as long as it's fair, which lets face it, it's less fair than it was 10 or so years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:00 PM
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The men I know who are unlucky in love still have deep and meaningful female friendships (actual non-orbiter friendships) and work well with and respect their female colleagues. S It's a two way street however. I used to enjoy being friends with women but around 2017/2018 half of them completely changed and it was solely due to social media and the effects it has on relationships in general. The half that didn't change weren't that bothered about social media in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:52 PM
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Not really been in an official relationship but looking back I'm glad they all ended when they did but I always wish that it was earlier when something in my gut felt off about the whole thing. I always wish I would have broken things off when I felt that feeling instead of waiting to see how things went and them breaking things off with me making me feel 100x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:23 AM
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And just to add, technically your OP was 'dating advice' about who should give dating advice. So technically, no-one should listen to you unless you're a 'well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, mature, and high-value' person. Which means that really this post is just you trying to justify to yourself that you are one of those people. And I guess you're going to comment on this with either nothing, or a one word answer because you're so high value...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:08 AM
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well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, mature, and high-value people Sorry but this is just the definition of a boring person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:59 AM
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If you believe that women can't make guys' life worse you need to open your eyes up real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:55 PM
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How is it embarrassing? It's more hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:44 PM
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This is why dating friends of friends is the safest option. That way none of this happens if your friends are trustworthy. One of them will tell you the truth of the situation and you'll be better off. It also stops women pulling games like this since they have the social pressure from their friends not to. It's like, she's not going to be very popular with her friends if she cheats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:43 PM
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I don't agree with your first statement about upgrading however putting labels on a relationship really ruins everything. As far as I'm concerned, all I care about is that I'm the only one she's sleeping with and that used to be a given but it's so much more difficult to know that nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:41 PM
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In my experience, the jealous friends will just try and put the guy down because they are resentful that their friend found a partner and that they are still single. A lot of women need better friends. As a guy, I feel no need to comment on my friends' choice of women as long as they aren't clearly taking advantage of him or being abusive. And if he's being a jerk to her, I just will stop being friends with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:35 PM
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I just don't think being in a relationship means the same anymore. It's a bit like how nowadays, your life doesn't really change that much after you've been married since you've already been living together/having sex. It's just not a big deal as it used to be and people are already doing 'relationship' things long before it's made official, which is different to how it used to be. Also, I think in the past, people didn't have to worry about the issues such as 'should I delete our photos off soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:29 PM
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It's interesting how what used to be called a soulmate, is now in the post-tinder age known as a syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:34 AM
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I'm glad it worked out for you, however I have to say that this isn't the norm nowadays. I wish some of it was however. Women have the comfort in knowing that if the guy is dating you, he most likely wants to have sex with you sometime down the road. Men don't have that comfort. She could be using him for a million different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:27 AM
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Not so weird. It signals to her that you think you are better than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:09 AM
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The thing is though that because women in his past have had sex with him very early on, he's going to assume that either a) you're not attracted to him or b) you're leading him on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:03 AM
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I honestly think that the idea that 'men are focussed on having sex' all the time is only true of emotionally healthy men. Yes, men get aroused visually very easily but that does not equate to them wanting sex (maybe in their minds but in actuality it's different), because being able to go through with having sex with someone involves a lot of things to be sound for you mentally i.e. no anxiety, no depression, high confidence, no guilt, no body issues etc. Just look at the forever alone forums. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:01 AM
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I think it goes both ways. A lot of women don't understand that having an erection doesn't mean sexual arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:49 AM
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Yeah it really sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:56 AM
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This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:56 AM
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It bothers me how a lot of women in the comments don't seem to care at all about the guy they are breaking up with. If you're a guy, and you think she's lost interest in you, just break up with her immediately and don't answer her texts or anything at all. That way, it hurts you less and he doesn't care because she's lost interest anyway. If you wait for her to break up with you, she still doesn't care yet you will feel 100x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:52 AM
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so there was basically no incentive for them to know me. Do girls really care about that stuff at 18? You were either in high school or having a year out. I'm around the same age as you and when I was that age, most girls just cared about how social you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:47 AM
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I'm not too sure. I agree, marrying young is probably not a good idea because you change so much during adolescence/early 20s. You know what, I don't know. All I know is that you miss out on everything if you just chose a guy at the finish line. What makes most men interesting is their story. You'll be missing out on all of that, he'll miss out on going on a journey together with you. The only benefit is you'll be financially stable but that'll probably get you bored of him quick and only care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:36 AM
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Honestly, dating after 21/22 is fake. I don't know about you but any love that is conditional on how much money the guy has doesn't sound like love to me at all. All guys just want a girl thats loyal to them, and that supports them while they develop into the man they have the potential to be. When a woman chooses you at the finish line you feel slightly cheated. You haven't been on the journey together and it feels like you barely know anything about each other. Think back over all your favouri…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:14 AM
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Lets not forget that they've often experienced the worst thing anyone has ever done to them, by the person they trusted the most, who didn't show any remorse for what they did or even joked about it with their friends. Add to that that it all unraveled in the space of a couple of days and that noone around them validated them after it happened because they were the types to believe that the guy must have done something wrong. All of that can really fuck you up for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:03 AM
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Just out of interest, how do you spot out a loser? And what is your definition of a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:12 AM
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Do guy's bodies change much from 22 to 30? In my eyes I don't have a hot body perse but I'm happy to a certain extent the way it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:41 AM
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This is getting me scared. I think the average man looses his looks simply because he doesn't care about his hair or clothing. A lot get to 30 and just have the same short hair length all over, no facial hair and just wear clothes they got 10 years ago that no longer fit them and even your average college guy wouldn't look good in. If they put some product in their hair, grew some stubble, dressed in a shirt and jeans that fitted their body type things would be a lot different. Also, I don't thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:34 AM
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I'm not sure this is true. Many women and guys grow out of clubbing in their early 20s simply because they've experienced it and it's just not fun anymore. It might change to going out for cocktails instead. It's like, not having a job during summer break at 21 is relaxing but when you're 27 and unemployed it's completely different. Priorities do shift; some of the things that I found interesting at 21 I no longer care about a couple of years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:25 AM
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Feel sorry for that guy. Imagine you thought she was the one and you later found out that after every date she was having sex with a different guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:21 PM
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Honestly, I would feel uncomfortable in any situation where any of us had to pay for something in public eg. cinema, restaurant etc. I would just invite her over my house to watch a movie and drink a little. It'd be more comfortable anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:19 PM
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I don't understand why every one is so angry in the posts. I'm a guy and the things I thought I wanted for myself let alone someone else at 18, I no longer want for myself in my mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:15 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:55 PM
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Is this for women or for men? I think a lot of good men are single in their early 30s. For women I'm not too sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:53 PM
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I think that's how women think about men. If a guy she finds attractive isn't interested in her, she'll think she's less attractive than she thought she was and that's something she can't take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:51 PM
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It only takes one horrible woman to completely ruin your perception of all women because you start seeing her behaviour in everyone. More-so if that woman was an ex-partner because you're naturally going to be thinking about her more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:49 PM
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I think it may be because you're older. A lot of early-20s to mid 20s women changed after around 2016 due to the way social media was shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:44 PM
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This is the truth about what happens a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:41 PM
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Anyone who truly thinks most women fit this stereotype have probably not spent much time dating or otherwise getting to know women. I don't think this is true. I think it ends up being the fact that the women who are social media obsessed post a lot on instagram and hence they are the only ones popping up in your feed; you don't notice the ones who aren't social media obsessed since they aren't the ones posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:18 PM
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Often doesn't end well but its a great ride while it lasts. Lol. I'm in my mid 20s and I just can't imagine having that feeling again. Noone seems to catch my interest anymore which I'm not sure if it's because I feel like I've experienced almost everything I've wanted to experience to a certain extent, or because I'm getting older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:40 AM
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Is it even possible to feel it in the same way? You're never going to love like a 21 year old again. Loving as a 35 year old may have the same intensity (I don't know though because I haven't reached anywhere near that age), but it'll be different nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:25 AM
1

I'm not sure but I feel like women are more sensitive to their own social status now than before. The indicators for social status are out in the open now (instagram follow count, likes etc.) and women are not only obsessed with it, but also fearful that their social value will drop significantly if they associate with the wrong guys. It just makes them more stuck up. Most of the women I've known have been completely ruined by social media and those that weren't, didn't use social media that muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 10:28 PM
2

I think it's best just to ask the girl if you can have sex with her in a way that feels good for you. And then make sure you're doing what feels good for you and not trying to replicate how you think people have sex from watching porn. That way, you'll both probably enjoy it more. As long as what you're doing is not over the top, she'll most likely be okay with it plus it will take the pressure of of her. e.g. if kissing her in a certain way turns you on but it's not how you thought people kiss,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 09:48 PM
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But her standards will change depending on how you treat her through the relationship. How you treat her (like a queen compared to a casual fling) will signal to her if she's better or worse than you. If she feels the latter she's going to leave with the consequence of her standards being highly inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 09:17 PM
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I think it happens for most men if they manage to get in the right situation. Like, if you go on a 'standard' date to a restaurant there is almost no magic to happen. Meanwhile if it's just you 2 talking all night while watching a movie and drinking a little, it's just more relaxed and magic can happen. But I agree, it happens all the time at college age but after that, it's hard to get excited about anything in the same way simply because you're older and you have different things to worry abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 09:15 PM
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It's interesting to hear that this is given always from a woman's perspective. I think it's a lot worse for guys who have had a sheltered upbringing because being that hesitant about sex is such a turn off to women. Meanwhile it's not really a turn off to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:58 PM
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The thing is it's probably not even the sex that's bothering the guy. It's the rejection. Like half the time he's probably initiating because he wants the validation of being desired. I think that's something a lot of women don't understand about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:55 PM
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Instead, what you do is start being incredibly positive. Make very moment you are together with her, as fun as possible, but also brief. Make her want to spend time with you, but don't give it. Stuff like that. This is a bad idea because she's going to think you're too available and that you have nothing better to do except make her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:52 PM
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He needs to go hot and cold on her, and start pulling away. The moment she feels like he is going to leave her desire will come back stronger than ever. I agree with you but when you try and get casual advice from women, you often hear the opposite. That's why you can't trust women's advice when it comes to this kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:51 PM
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And a person that has sex with attractive immoral people over unattractive moral people is creating an incentive structure that puts attractiveness over morality, and that ends up rewarding immorality. This is something that needs to be addressed way more often. I once lived with an asshole and his confidence was higher than it should have been simply because his girlfriend was attractive and essentially gave him sex whenever he wanted. It gets even worse since their girlfriend usually unconditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:32 AM
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Yeah, if the woman had the intention of having sex in the relationship and things go dry that's different. But if the woman was just using the guy and she knew she wasn't sexually attracted to him, that's a really painful situation. Happened to me and I could have easily avoided if I wasn't so naive and not have been. Hurt even more since I essentially got broken up with after I lost my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:07 AM
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I agree with you in that respect but I was saying that being a well known expert in a field doesn't really have much value; look how many 'geeks' find it hard to find a gf. I think what women find attractive about certain well known experts is their ability to teach the younger generation and be a role model but really that just boils down to being charismatic. There are plenty of lonely experts who nobody talks to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:33 PM
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they will generally stop sleeping with a man if they are no longer interested and they are on too short a timeline to waste time I feel like this is advice a lot of men need to hear. If she's with you and not putting out, she's using you period. It's not okay for her to use you (I know a lot of people think it's okay for a woman to use a man). You should leave as soon as possible. If she breaks up with you, you're going to be in a lot of turmoil meanwhile she won't care. Meanwhile if you break y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:28 PM
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the odds were pretty decent that this would consist of them going down on a girl they weren't particularly attracted to, who would not interact with their dick at all, and would then leave. Sounds like my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:23 PM
1

If women aren't getting orgasms, it's solely due to the men they are selecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:21 PM
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but from making her feel desirable. I don't think this is true. Women get turned off by men who treat her like a queen. Probably the best thing to do is just treat her as an equal. She only wants to be desired sporadically by men who she views above her, and thats just for her ego. Eventually she will get bored of that guy doing that too and will move onto the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:20 PM
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Leagues only exist when you are following trends etc. Like if you're a sporty type, who plays the same sport as everyone else, with exactly the same haircut as everyone else, who dresses like everyone else of course there's going to be someone who's got a better version of that haircut, better clothes and who's better at that sport. Meanwhile if your being yourself and following your own interests and have a haircut that suits you and dress the way you want and are honest with yourself about it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:15 PM
3

I'm a guy and I've never heard anyone say anything like that to me. I don't understand what I've been missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:11 PM
2

a well known expert in a field How is this valuable to a woman in any way? She's most likely not going to be interested in your niche field. The only thing she will gain from that is the social value you get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:07 PM
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What advice do you give her ? What advice should her mother give her and not you ? Don't always trust your female friends. A lot of them have ulterior motives. What you select for will change dramatically from your adolescence/early 20s to your mid/late 20s. ​ What kind of man would you advise her to vet for and how ? Someone who's honest with themselves and is making his best efforts to validate himself. Someone who's following his own path. ​ What red flags would want her to watch out for ? Cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:02 PM
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This is basically him living out the "fun times" he should've had in his 20s, but in his 30s. The problem is there's a time and place for formative experiences. Having a relationship during your adolescence is completely different to having one in your 30s. You're never going to love as a 19 year old again. Nothing will make up it. You're not going to be naive anymore. You're going to want to go slowly because it's your first time meanwhile she's going to get completely bored. There's no getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:57 PM
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I think in those countries, the families approval plays a big part in forming your relationship. If you're a girl and you brought an asshole home, your dad isn't going to have any of it. Meanwhile, in western countries it's more like the fathers opinion doesn't matter and the girl will just do what she wants anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:54 PM
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The good ones get snatched up pretty quickly though This is true. The one problem that happens is that when one of those girls goes through a break up from a long term relationship, the dating world has completely changed since the start of their former relationship and they end up completely changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:51 PM
1

Happened to me. Would rather I had never met her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:02 PM
1

Most men don't get casual sex because they can't, and cling to relationships to get laid. Again, women by and large choose the type of encounter, whether that's casual sex or a fully fledged relationship. I would argue that getting laid is significantly easier than forming a relationship nowadays (I'm not saying any of them are easy for the majority of men, I'm just comparing). You're right, most men will have sex in any scenario. That's a given. But that's only because as you said, beggars can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:51 PM
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Yeah that's fine. A lot of women don't but the ones who do are the ones to watch out for because it's impossible to form a stable relationship with them. As soon as you do, they get bored and move onto the next casual sex fling and the cycle continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:27 PM
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No I meant what I meant. Most men are not a fan of casual sex. Men are just following the market since some sex is better than no sex. Women set the market of casual sex. It's just women only really care about the men interested in casual sex which is a minority. Women don't even notice the men who want a steady relationship (because it signals to them that they don't have many options which isn't necessarily true). Hence, they form the opinion that man only want casual sex because those are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 07:31 PM
0

I also think it's because men and women view sex differently. With women, there's no emotion really involved but men need to feel something with the woman on average to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:46 AM
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Am I crazy, or has the conversation changed from "how can men get casual sex for minimal commitment", and has shifted to "how to make women commit early and stop having so much casual sex"? I'm not sure it has. During the first 2 years of college, men are interested in getting laid because that's kind of the stereotypical college experience. But they grow out of it pretty fast meanwhile I don't think women do. After the first 2 years of college, men are at the age where they want love but women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:42 AM
1

Well maybe you're the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:12 AM
1

how do you put a dude's dick in your mouth you're scared to speak to Think about how many girls who are socially anxious that are sexually active. Most girls are more comfortable having sex than talking nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:32 AM
1

Finally someone said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:30 AM
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Make up sex is all about that warm feeling of love flooding your brain again. It is kind of scary that most modern relationships rely solely on the hormones released during sex. Most people seem to accidentally 'fall in love' with their FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:17 AM
1

Oh right. I didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:34 AM
1

I deleted my account years ago and I do NOT regret it. You left at the right time. Twitter has completely changed in recent years. I haven't been active on there in a couple of years however when I do log on just to check what's happening, I immediately feel 100x worse about myself looking at some of the stuff some women say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:10 AM
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Yeah but I think males tend to congregate on other sites to voice their resentment i.e. reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:03 AM
1

True but in particular you see a lot of hatred from certain females due to their resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:55 AM
1

If you're hurting over this, I suggest that if you're in a relationship and your gut is telling you she's lost interest, just leave. Think about it. If you leave, she most likely doesn't care and both of you will get over it quicker. Meanwhile if she leaves, you'll be devastated and will have to take a huge kick to your ego meanwhile she still won't care. Always trust your gut feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:22 PM
2

I think this used to be the case however nowadays, look how many men are being attacked for something they tweeted about 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:04 PM
1

Women who don't like men are pretty content alone and pretty content to masturbate to scratch their itch when they're horny. This is very naive. Just check twitter to see how angry those females are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:55 AM
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Yes. You're viewing everything from the lens of a woman which is why you don't get it. When a guy falls in love, the woman he's with is the only woman he romantically wants to be with period. He's not even comparing her with other girls like women do to guys. That's why it's hard for men to empathise with you. You're constantly ranking guys on who you regard is better based on superficial qualities meanwhile guys aren't doing that; they aren't subconsciously ranking women in their minds. When th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:29 PM
1

I think that’s very naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:12 PM
1

The truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:23 AM
1

Everyone does. No they don't. You're just seeing it from a woman's perspective. Most guys only wan't to date the girl they are with. They aren't rating other women against her like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:15 AM
1

she might not have liked it Why didn't she just say no? She managed to say no to the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:07 AM
1

He's not entitled to unconditional love from anybody. What's in it for the man then? Does he not get anything from the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:59 AM
0

Then have your responses ready for some quick shit-tests. If you pass the shit-tests, she is yours. There's always a catch lol. I think the best thing to do is that if she starts shit testing, just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:02 PM
1

The problem is after you have sex once in a relationship, you're not going to be very good so she'll become un-attracted to you and break up with you so essentially she will become a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:59 PM
2

I would say that most guys spend most of their time playing video games but they also seem to be obsessed with going to the gym also. I think that the reason why women are attracted to the guys that play video games (who are also good looking) is because when a guy plays video games, he's solely focused on the task and won't let anyone disturb him. I think, primally speaking women interpret that as the guy being dutiful, conscientious and being 'a man on a mission'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:48 PM
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Also, she may be attracted to you because of your status, but she will never enjoy sex with you if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:45 PM
1

A big cause of the general hostility between the genders is that women want to marry people who are better than them but still wish to be treated as an equal. This is also a self-fullfiling prophecy since how you treat is how she determines how much value you have in her eyes. You can be as competent as they get, but if you treat her like she's better than you, she's going to think that you have no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:42 PM
2

They mostly just shit test you and when they've ruined your self esteem they leave.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 05:24 PM
19

Tbf he did say that he regretted calling MGTOW that.
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 12:25 AM
5

It makes me feel so uncomfortable how girls completely ruin a guy emotionally and then they act like the victim to their friends and get all the sympathy.
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 12:23 AM
1

It's hard to find a woman who's not constantly posting selfies on Instagram or Snapchat to try to show off how hot she is. This has completely changed some girls that I used to know.
/r/MGTOW24/03/20 02:25 AM
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Nothing scarier than when a girl suddenly drops her 'nice girl' act and reveals her true behaviour. It's a betrayal that's hard to get over and completely destroys your world view especially when she switches in the space of an hour or so. Plus they try to ruin you're credibility by saying bad things about you because they're scared because you've seen the real version of them and they're worried that they'll get found out that they've been acting all along. If she ruins your credibility she kno…
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 03:42 AM
2

The thing is I remember it being different around 4 years ago. It's changed so much so suddenly in the past few years.
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 12:12 AM
2

If they’re under 21 and not actively campaigning for it, usually they’re just naive and think that all women are unicorns because women do such a good job of hiding it in their early adolescence. However after around 22/23 if you’re still a male feminist you a) need to wake the fuck up or b) you’re just one because you’re trying to get in their pants.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 06:28 PM
2

lol
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 04:42 PM
4

All my dreams of having a romantic relationship/marriage are ruined
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 07:03 AM
6

It's a cruel way to see what they really think about you. If they think you're more attractive than them, they will still be nice to you. However if they think you are less attractive than them they will literally try to destroy you because their ego can't take the fact that they might be less attractive than they think. There was a study that showed that women, once rejected by an attractive guy end up hating men they perceive as being unattractive even more because they can't deal with the fac…
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 07:48 PM
7

Honestly she probably isn't better. She just thinks she's better because of her inflated ego.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 10:38 PM
5

If she didn't have the financial support from a guy, she would be poor and creepy in her own eyes.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 02:49 PM
7

Tbh if you're good looking it doesn't matter if you're 100% asshole because she'll still project the false representation of good looking = good person onto you.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 11:33 PM
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They are very miserable and bitter towards men. I don't know why they feel bitter towards men? The only men they most likely interact with are the men they choose to sleep with. If they are bitter towards men it means that they are making poor choices.
/r/MGTOW08/02/20 03:23 AM
2

I agree, the things I’ve noticed though however is that men stop when they feel they’ve gone too far. However women only stop when they’ve got caught.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 09:24 PM
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Tbf the guy on the right probably has no backbone and no interests (he is essentially replaceable with nothing to offer except money). The guys I feel sorry for are the guys who are clearly well developed in terms of their interests and can think for themselves but get fucked over anyway.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 12:26 AM
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and was so in love with her The only way to have a relationship with a modern women is if you don't love her. As soon as you develop feelings, to her the game is over; she's got the validation that she can be loved by someone at your level and now she will think she has a shot at someone perceived as being higher.
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 09:58 PM
2

they always cared more about their fame, their image I would argue that this has extended to most average college aged females with their social media image.
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 12:49 AM
2

The boundaries placed around women by reality and biology and society helped make it possible for the traditions you wanted. But now we’ve destroyed all of those. So now women have no real desire for men outside of occasional sex. There’s no true appreciation for men because they think they can drive the future on their own, and have used the system to rob men so they don’t need to be with us to extract resources. Just out of interest what do you think the socially enforced boundaries placed on …
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 12:47 AM
63

It's crazy when you think about it. If you take your 10% figure, 1 man is getting 10 women while 9 of his friends are getting 0. Actually that isn't accurate because it replies on on women picking one guy and sleeping with him only. In reality if a woman sleeps keeps swapping the guy she's sleeping with, the amount of girls that guy is getting (or could be getting) is way higher meanwhile 9 of his friends are still getting 0.
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 07:18 PM
4

Man can't imagine how much that would have hurt.
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 06:54 PM
4

Yeah but why would a young man take on that responsibility. If a girl actually likes you she will cook for you and she can just cook for herself as well by doubling the portions. When I was a student a girl offered to come over just to take my food out the oven for me because I couldn't be bothered to get up out of my bed.
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 10:44 PM
11

I don't understand how any young man would date instead of just asking her to come over. Like seriously what advantages does going on a date have in 2016-now?
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 09:42 PM
12

She doesn't seem to complain when her hand is around a chad with a massive cock though lol
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 09:37 PM
3

This is actually so fucked up. She was probably saying stuff like 'you're just being insecure' to her bf while she was actively fucking the other guy before the end of the relationship. She knew full well of the betrayal. Her friends probably supported her saying stuff like 'we all thought your bf was a loser and you deserve better' as a way to rationalise it. Always trust your gut instinct. If you're feeling insecure about her cheating on you, you're probably right, especially in todays culture…
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 05:48 PM
2

It's more-so that a certain subset of women want to do that and the ones that eventually go on to do it are the ones who are more confident about their appearance since they've got validation over the way they look through sex.
/r/MGTOW18/01/20 03:12 AM
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The problem is that if a woman was deciding who to give the award to she would automatically reject the bad looking men because to her good looking=good person.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 10:42 PM
2

If they truly believed it was trivial the me too movement wouldn't have been a thing.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 06:37 AM
5

And women will call inexperienced men creepy rapists. The thing is it's been studied that most rape is conducted by already sexually active men by a large margin. Sexually active men get all the consensual sex and that group also effectively conducts all the rape meanwhile the inexperienced men get no consensual sex and get blamed for all the rape.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 06:35 AM
19

Your point also brings out another reason for mens insecurity. The fact that it's so easy to be replaced by someone else due to how easy it is for women nowadays to find a sexual partner makes intimacy a way to get yourself deliberately hurt.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 05:31 AM
2

This is actually a profound comment
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 11:38 PM
24

Can someone explain to me what the point in a relationship is nowadays
/r/MGTOW07/01/20 06:09 AM
2

This hurts because it's the truth
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 06:28 PM
2

Honestly, women nowadays believe that every guy is into them no matter what.
/r/MGTOW25/12/19 01:55 AM
28

Everything a woman says about men is just them projecting. Everything period.
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 05:18 PM
1

Scariest moment is when you see how horrible and vicious a girl is when you're with her and as soon as you break up, she suddenly starts smiling and acting all innocent around everyone trying to attract a new mate.
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 02:04 PM
1

What the actual fuck. This is not good. This has gone way too far.
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 01:59 PM
5

This is true. If a woman is not chasing you she just isn't into you or she is very shy. There's no point in chasing a woman because a) even if you do get with her she probably will still be longing for her ex and b) you'll sooner or later find out that she wasn't that interesting in the first place and you were just projecting what you thought she was versus what she's actually like.
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 01:55 PM
9

A 25 year old girl is old enough to make her own decisions. Problem is women get themselves into bad situations because of tingles and then when he turns out to be exactly like everyone thinks he is they scream 'I didn't know he was like this'.
/r/MGTOW17/12/19 08:52 PM
17

This is perhaps the first red pill I received.
/r/MGTOW17/12/19 04:03 PM
2

​ Have several single women friends and grow attraction with all at once. That's not how it works. They're my friends because I'm not romantically attracted to them. You're suggesting that just being in the presence of a woman for a long enough time is enough to become attracted to her. Something tells me that you're starved since if that's the case with you, you're able to fall in love with any woman that shows you attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:47 AM
2

I've found that during early adolescence a lot of the time it's that the guy feels sorry for the girl so he talks to her but the girl is delusional and thinks that every guy who talks to her has romantic feelings for her so in her mind she 'friendzones' him when in reality the guy was just trying to be kind to her. However after about 23 I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:47 PM
1

I get your point but relationships take time to develop. I tend to only become interested in someone if I've seen them around for a couple of months. Sure I get curious about them as soon as I see them for the first time but not enough to want to do anything about it. Like if your looking for just a one night stand it's different because anyone physically attractive will do but for a more intimate relationship it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:44 PM
1

Honestly no. I've never wanted anything more from a girl if we started off as friends. However, if she was into me (which very rarely happens), made the move and we were intimate together, leaving me after all that for another guy is what hurts. In my early adolescence, I used to enjoy being friends with girls because I found it easier talking to them. However if in their mind they thought that they were 'friendzoning me' thats what would annoy me the most since to 'friendzone' someone means tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 04:40 PM
1

A guy I put in the friendzone The guy probably didn't like her like that in the first place and was just trying to be nice to her because he felt sorry for her.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 04:15 PM
2

Honestly I wouldn't mind if she never gave me oral. It's just the fact that she's done it to someone else that gets to me.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 10:25 PM
1

Just to clarify my last experience happened a long time ago (over 2 years) and I didn't give her oral.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 10:22 PM
2

After my last experience with that girl I don't see any point. If I make her feel like I care about her sexually she'll think that I like her and that will signal to her that I'm lower than her and that she can do better because someone better would treat her like she's garbage because he knows he can do better.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 05:22 PM
-1

Why isn't this a reasonable expectation? If they did this for chad in college and not for me, she obviously doesn't like me as much so what's the point.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 05:09 PM
111

Fuck can't imagine how much that would have hurt.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 04:33 PM
11

The women who think that toxic femininity doesn't exist end up being the most toxic.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 01:48 PM
1

Women's main fear of dating men is physical abuse Not to sure about this. Women go to the houses of random guys they've never met in real life before, only on tinder, just to get fucked. Plus they tend to be more attracted to the guys that have the body type that can do the most physical damage to them.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 02:24 AM
28

Just like this boyfriend, the man should go cold on her, show no reaction, and go zero contact forever. Block, ignore and ghost. Simple. Just like how she would act to her boyfriend if her ex came back in the picture.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 09:12 PM
30

He's renting her.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 11:11 PM
3

but a woman can just flick a switch and bounce from one to the next. This is the thing that hurt me the most.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 11:10 PM
51

I know there are some instincts involved, but I have instincts to punch someone in the face who insults me and I manage not to do that. I agree. Most men would rather have sex with a younger more attractive female but they don't cheat on their wives by acting on their instincts because they want to keep their family together.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 11:08 PM
95

How the hell do they even have so much confidence. They aren't even that attractive yet they somehow feel that a guy should feel honoured to receive a nude off of them.
/r/MGTOW02/12/19 10:46 PM
13

It's the women who think that no woman can do no harm, that do the most harm.
/r/MGTOW02/12/19 04:38 PM
33

I mean he could have quietly told the guy that he slept with her and that she isn't worth it instead of sending the guy a snapchat of them having sex. Like clearly he's getting a kick out of making that guy feel worse.
/r/MGTOW01/12/19 01:15 PM
1

Do you think comments will become the new like? For example someone commenting '<3' may become the new form of liking someones post and then people will start competing for comments.
/r/MGTOW01/12/19 12:33 PM
25

I get what the post is trying to say but the guy who took that snapchat on the right is kind of a dick ngl.
/r/MGTOW01/12/19 12:14 PM
1

I work in London and I know feminists that tolerate a man having sexist views if they find him attractive. This is the part I find scary.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 12:32 PM
2

but it's not really their fault in the end I used to think this but men also have impulses that we choose not to act on. For example, many men have the impulse to cheat with a younger more attractive female but they don't because they want to keep their family together.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 12:31 PM
2

I think it's also other women giving them validation. Women are terrified about not getting many likes on their photos so they like another girls photo in the hope that they get a like back.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 12:27 PM
6

artificially dominant types Seems guys can spot these but women can't. ​ Everything natural has been replaced by money games I would argue also that political games are being rewarded. As an example, people who are dishonestly proclaiming themselves to be helping LGBT and other minorities (when they are really doing it to make themselves appear to be 'better' human beings) are often rewarded particularly in STEM fields in universities. Most people nowadays in STEM do not care about your sexual o…
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 12:24 PM
0

You simply appear to be stupid by deliberately getting it wrong You simply appear to be extroverted by deliberately answering the questions dishonestly.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 07:24 AM
1

Yeah but the point is to answer the questions honestly. I could easily fail a maths exam by answering the questions wrongly even if I know how to answer correctly.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 02:44 PM
2

I agree and it's not pretty to see
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 04:00 AM
3

Sorry you had to go through that. Being betrayed by someone you trusted is horrible, especially when they go after the person that hurt you the most.
/r/MGTOW24/11/19 05:05 AM
4

Thats true. I have noticed that the women who are genuinely kind-hearted, have strong positive values and do not participate in the current culture of blaming men or automatically resenting men who are physically less attractive, seem to be disliked by their female peers more often, probably due to the jealousy of other women or other women seeing her as a threat. However I have found that if a female doesn't have many friends in college, it's usually an indicator that she's a) extremely toxic o…
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 03:22 AM
17

I think women need to be careful about who they are actually friends with.
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 09:15 PM
33

Just imagine how hurt your child would be if he/her accidentally saw that text from your ex-wife. It would probably affect them for life.
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 04:10 AM
10

Hope everything works out for you man
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 02:57 AM
1

they dont have the general public's approval, they have the approval of people who want this particular agenda pushed. They are some of the most popular songs in the past 2 years. Of course they have the general public opinion. That's the definition of popular. im amazed how far some people would go to prove their point. I didn't go very far. Most people have those thoughts. You're in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:00 PM
1

I'm 24. Finished school in september. Transferred to top 10 school to in the world to do my masters and I found it difficult to keep up with the work so I don't think i did very well. I used to be quite social at my old college in my first 2 years but became quite unsure of myself in my final year and wasn't really the best version of myself. Once I transferred I became very socially isolated, probably spoke less that 10 words every day and only had a few conversations over the year that lasted …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:58 PM
1

nope, it's still frowned upon. Surely it's culturally encouraged if it's mentioned in those songs that are popular signalling that they have the general publics approval. ​ normal, healthy women with healthy self-esteem dont think this way, Just because you wish you didn't think that way doesn't mean you don't get excited by something on a primal level. As an example, I'm sure you've masturbated and been shocked by where your mind has gone prior to the moment you finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:52 PM
1

It does feel like it's over to a certain extent. But I'm going to give it one more go and then just forget about it. I've developed myself intellectually, academically and creatively a lot over the past year. It's just no-one sees the progress because I feel too anxious to use social media. I feel like because of it I've fallen behind socially compared to my peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:50 AM
1

So I'm an average or below average person just because I don't have a six pack or strong jaw line? By that token Martin Luther King Jr. was an average or below average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:26 AM
1

Most people have sex in high school. I'm not sure this is the case and I think that it's highly dependent on which high school you went to. I think barely anyone was having sex in my high school, it was only until I went to college that I realised that a lot of people had a lot of sex in their high schools. I doubt the guy who's had sex with 3+ girls in high school is going to care about the sexual history of the person he eventually settles down with. However, the guy who views sex as the highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:46 AM
3

I also see a lot of single mothers in their late teens/20s. I'm not sure if they gravitate towards tinder because I rarely see them in real life, but they are definitely prevalent on OLD.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 10:20 PM
1

completely bypassing all the useless betas How the fuck do you know someone is a useless beta just from someones OLD profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:42 PM
1

I'm glad you mentioned point number 2. Often it feels like nowadays, if you don't fit into the narrow idea of a man that is presented on social media, you're automatically a low value male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:39 PM
0

I'm not sure how big consent was in the Hippie and 'Free Love' movement however.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 09:24 PM
1

Interesting. In about what year did you notice this cultural shift?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:18 PM
1

Okay maybe wanting a girl to be a virgin because he wants the girl to chose to be the guys first partner is too much to ask nowadays (although this would reduce the amount of insecurity in most relationships nowadays). But the least I would want was a girl to a) Only want to have sex with me. b) Enjoy sex with me more than she did with her previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:08 AM
1

I'm not going to even bother replying to you if you think men have a weird obsession with trying to control female sexuality or that a guy gets a kick out of taking a girls virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:54 AM
0

It’s completely stupid. Sex is sex. Now actually trusting a person and caring about a person? That’s different. If sex was just sex being cheated on wouldn't hurt so much. Why does being cheated on hurt so much if it's not about the lack of your partner caring or trust being broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:38 AM
1

I'm educated (Ivy League school), multiple skills in the visual arts, good with my hands building things, play multiple musical instruments and used to record my own music. Also, I dress better than 99% of males. No woman wants me because my face is asymmetrical. Only two women have ever chased me and they didn't seem physically attracted to me. It's unfair. Most guys can't do anything yet they can easily find a mate and live a happy life all because their face is symmetrical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:10 PM
1

I mean why can't they.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:59 PM
1

A few of these guys I might want to sleep with but most I do not. Just a few? If you're not one of those you're screwed. You'll never get married. Your wife will never love you. She'll be thinking about someone else during sex. It's horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:54 PM
1

Well my guess is that the saying probably originated in a movie or culturally important tv show and it probably caught on. Guys thought all girls were already doing that do girls felt pressured to do it in fear of losing their mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:03 PM
1

Girls select males. If girls start having sex on the 3rd date (whether it's because she wants to hook in a guy she really likes and is scared of losing him or whatever) all men will want that and feel like a girl isn't really interested in him unless she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:48 PM
1

Women set the standard for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:37 PM
1

No, they want a guy who actually has something about him Thats the way it used to be. Since you can't tell what a guy is like before you meet him due to selecting on OLD/social media, you automatically filter out the 8/10 or lower guys who have something about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:59 PM
2

I'm not sure. Maybe when she has sex with one person it was probably her first love and it's hard to compete with her first love. With 2, maybe the only reason she had sex with the 2nd guy was to get over her first love. With 3, maybe she just started college and wanted to try the whole hook up thing to fit in. With 4-7, maybe she didn't like her first hook up but her friends said 'you'll like it if you try it more' With 8+ its like the only reason she's having sex with you is to get off and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:44 PM
5

Suddenly a guy wanting to feel special to his partner and wanting to be loved is having an over inflated ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:38 PM
1

The difference is girls are actually attracted to guys who have been around since to them, they feel like since other women have fucked him, he must have something about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:34 PM
1

Look. How is a girl having sex with 50 men in college good for society? The studies are quite clear that she will have a tougher time forming a stable pair bond with a partner later in life which will not give their child the best environment for developing to their true potential. By toxic female traits I'm talking about innuendo, gossip and reputation destruction. We've already seen the consequences of the latter in false rape accusations (partially caused by the meetoo movement) which a) ruin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:39 PM
2

Yes AWALT just like all men are like that. Both sexes have their faults. It's just in recent years, toxic female traits have gone through the roof due to OLD and social media. But the difference is, instead of collectively saying, 'this is making us turn ugly and bringing our toxic traits to the forefront' they don't recognise that they have the capacity in them to be toxic (mainly due to being indoctrinated in at the high school and university level) and hence it just becomes worse. Meanwhile p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:24 PM
2

a romanticly entwined woman who I feel is holding me back from the sex life I want. I get what you mean and that you don't want to settle, but if she's trying her best surely that's enough. Honesty now, the way the west is progressing, I think we need to return to a more traditional hierarchy of values so that hopefully the next generation have a chance at a stable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:06 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:02 PM
-2

Guys get to feel like they are special because he's the only person she's had sex with and girls get to feel like they are protected and cared for and plus they get to have sex with a guy she likes for the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:00 PM
3

I agree but as a society, everything was more stable. I understand your point about the past (say before 1960), but compare 2013 to now. Everything feels like it's falling apart. Women are dissatisfied. Men are frustrated and I don't see how women or men can trust each other enough to raise an emotionally healthy child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:58 PM
2

I know but don't you think sex is placed to high on the list? Like I'd rather have good sex with a girl I really like rather than absolute transcendental sex with a girl I'm on the fence about. Like think about it. The person you are with is going to be the mother of your child. Surely you would want prefer her to have characteristics that allow you both to grow together in a family domain rather than someone who just gives good head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:54 PM
1

Just out of interest, why do you think it's silly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:46 PM
5

The reason why guys want sex by the 3rd date but also a low N count is because he wants to feel special and that you've been waiting your whole life for a guy like him to take your virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:44 PM
-4

Honestly it's not. All you have to do is be a virgin until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:43 PM
2

I feel awful about myself now but at least I know the truth. I wish I was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:23 PM
3

This is why marriage solved everything. Guys got to feel like they were special because he's the only person she had sex with and girls got to feel like they were protected and cared for and got to have sex with a guy she liked for the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:22 PM
1

I looked at your reddit history and found this. Lol blowjobs are like barely sexual to me at times. just sucking a flesh tube big deal lol I'm interested to know what your motivations are for giving them and if it's because you want the guy to feel cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:19 PM
2

I'd rather be Malcolm X than a guy that women want to fuck. EDIT: I'd rather by Malcolm X and a guy that women want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:16 PM
1

So the only reason your boyfriend deserves sex with you is because his nose is a certain shape and his jaw is a certain width.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:15 PM
2

Finally a girl who is honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:14 PM
2

This means we are the prize. Not really you as a person. Just your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:10 PM
1

You can eat someone out and not be sexually attracted to them. Sexual attraction just means you would receive pleasure if you had sex with them. Since I'm not getting any direct stimulation from eating a girl out, being sexually attracted to them doesn't matter. One of the main reasons women give guys bj's is because they want to be nice to their boyfriend to make them feel cared for since they aren't receiving any direct stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:08 PM
2

This is the problem with women nowadays. They think they are some sort of prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:06 PM
2

You're letting these girls think you're attracted to them when you're not. I am attracted to them as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:05 PM
1

grace him So you view sex as you being the reward to the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:04 PM
1

No but I went to a university ranked slightly higher than Princeton.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:01 PM
2

That's my point...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:58 PM
2

Can’t just go around giving every lonely man a blowjob. That is ridiculous lol Why not your friends then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:57 PM
1

Yeah because women can judge character just from tinder pictures nowadays...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:56 PM
1

No. It was studied. It's true. Your opinion on whether it's true or not doesn't matter. every emotional wreck male friend 'Men need to talk more about their feelings'. And when they do you shame them by calling them an 'emotional wreck male friend'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:53 PM
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